A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.