Yes, and the same "no calls" are transferable to the other players at the younger ages, they just did not start playing that way. I simply tried to present a fact based view with actual data vs. The obviously emotional topic for you. I understand you observe some of this behavior and certainly will not say you are wrong or it does not happen from YJ players. Just stating that one, it happens everywhere and not just at YJ, two, not on the team I watch play and three it is not taught nor an institutionally accepted mentality. When does the institutional indoctrination process begin, have not seen it yet and going on year three?