A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.
You are splitting hairs…
Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.
While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.
The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.
While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.
Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.
-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.
Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.
Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).
Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....
Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)
1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory
Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)
1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois
Big Tech
1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University
Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom
These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.
1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical
See link for article
https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "
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