Conversation started as a simple idea-original poster asked which returning players would help their teams-fogo was the first position to be discussed-about 7 or 8 boys were mentioned by name.

Then the guy with the ivy kid decided to derail the conversation and spew on about all the low skill cheating fogos...what was funny about this -lets call him "IVY" guy-gets all offended when someone picks on his ivy kid-a kid that wasn't named, all while he is calling the 7 or 8 kids that were named, low skill cheaters...

a sure sign of an insecure adult. suspect his kid wont ever be mentioned in the weeks to come because his kid is just not that good. suspect their is no IVY verbal. Ivy guy is likely a person complaining that his son should be playing more but for local politics and bad coaches and bad parents...