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Predictions for Suffolk and Nassau ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for Suffolk and Nassau ??

Pequa us for Nassau
Smithtown East Suffolk

Syosset and Ward Melville with Ward Melville winning the states. Saw them down in Maryland this summer, if they get out of Suffolk, no one is beating them.......not a Ward Melville parent but they are the real deal.

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Yes Pequa for Nassau

But WI for Suffolk, they got some strong players this year on every position of the field . They won Hotbeds this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for Suffolk and Nassau ??

Pequa us for Nassau
Smithtown East Suffolk

Farmingdale will be in the mix next spring. Syosset lost some me top offensive players but will be better than Pequa in my opinion. In Suffolk, same old teams Ward Melville, West Islip, Smithtown West and maybe Smithtown East will finally win a state title with all that talent that has been around for years. Don't think Connetquot will be the force they were, not deep enough. I think surprise teams could be Commack and Riverhead. HHHE can make some noise too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Pequa for Nassau

But WI for Suffolk, they got some strong players this year on every position of the field . They won Hotbeds this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for Suffolk and Nassau ??

Pequa us for Nassau
Smithtown East Suffolk

Smithtown East returns the majority of starters who will be very strong, mature senior players. Despite the big loss at X, they have two very strong seniors ready to get that job done. Will be a complete team, and their last chance at a state title for a while. WM will also be strong , as will Smithtown West. Can't think of any others who will be real contenders. And Hotbeds is not a good indicator. That tournament has gone downhill, and many of the top HS kids play club, skipping events like that in favor of more prestigious ones.

Farmingdale in mix?

Fdale always in mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Let's stick to lacrosse and not start this BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

No, the parents will be fired up...teenage boys move on-especially 6 months later....winning will make a lot of things better...get a grip..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

Who is coaching Syosset next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is coaching Syosset next year?

check back Thursday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is coaching Syosset next year?

check back Thursday

Why Thursday? Board meeting is Monday!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is coaching Syosset next year?

The same coach that has been there. He will be back. He has the right parents in his corner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Pequa for Nassau

But WI for Suffolk, they got some strong players this year on every position of the field . They won Hotbeds this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for Suffolk and Nassau ??

Sorry, the competition at Hotbeds was weak, West Islip will be competitive but cannot hang with East or Ward Melville.

Pequa us for Nassau
Smithtown East Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is coaching Syosset next year?

check back Thursday

Why Thursday? Board meeting is Monday!!!

they will post the final fall coaches o the web site Thursday, if JC is hired to coach football he will be back coaching lax in the spring. Monday is the vote to approve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

I think farmingdale and pequa will battle each other as always and have some great games against each other. Both teams are strong. Dalers have a very good mix coming up as well as pequa I'm sure. If the jv team for pequa was any indication of what they have coming up then the coach has work to do. Not knocking them just based upon the game. I know people on both sides so I'm just being fair. I think farmingdale 2019,2018 kids are a good mix. Alot of talent plus new coach is going to make a big difference. Dalers are solid in goal. They brought up kids with alot of talent so don't be so quick to count them out. Pequa will be talented as always but it will be great to watch two good teams play some gard lax.

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Smithtown east 2 faceoff guys could of started on anyway team 2 years ago and be a impact on that team , they are very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

Ok tool bag look it up it is in black and white.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think farmingdale and pequa will battle each other as always and have some great games against each other. Both teams are strong. Dalers have a very good mix coming up as well as pequa I'm sure. If the jv team for pequa was any indication of what they have coming up then the coach has work to do. Not knocking them just based upon the game. I know people on both sides so I'm just being fair. I think farmingdale 2019,2018 kids are a good mix. Alot of talent plus new coach is going to make a big difference. Dalers are solid in goal. They brought up kids with alot of talent so don't be so quick to count them out. Pequa will be talented as always but it will be great to watch two good teams play some gard lax.

Thanks Farmingdale Dad. No one cares about that conference . 2/3 horse race every year. Non-league games suck as well. It's football season soon anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think farmingdale and pequa will battle each other as always and have some great games against each other. Both teams are strong. Dalers have a very good mix coming up as well as pequa I'm sure. If the jv team for pequa was any indication of what they have coming up then the coach has work to do. Not knocking them just based upon the game. I know people on both sides so I'm just being fair. I think farmingdale 2019,2018 kids are a good mix. Alot of talent plus new coach is going to make a big difference. Dalers are solid in goal. They brought up kids with alot of talent so don't be so quick to count them out. Pequa will be talented as always but it will be great to watch two good teams play some gard lax.

No Nassau team in conference 1 gets past a Suffolk team. To
Much talent. For record I am Nassau dad from this conference.

Syosset's los of u-19 attackman is going to leave a huge hole. Baldwin will make some noise this year.

Hey Nassau dad, Pequa lost to SE bi 1, and beat up WI in scrimmage .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset's los of u-19 attackman is going to leave a huge hole. Baldwin will make some noise this year.

Yes Syosset did lose a great attackman but have 11 D1 commits left in the team!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who is coaching Syosset next year?

check back Thursday

Why Thursday? Board meeting is Monday!!!

they will post the final fall coaches o the web site Thursday, if JC is hired to coach football he will be back coaching lax in the spring. Monday is the vote to approve.

Where is that going to be posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think farmingdale and pequa will battle each other as always and have some great games against each other. Both teams are strong. Dalers have a very good mix coming up as well as pequa I'm sure. If the jv team for pequa was any indication of what they have coming up then the coach has work to do. Not knocking them just based upon the game. I know people on both sides so I'm just being fair. I think farmingdale 2019,2018 kids are a good mix. Alot of talent plus new coach is going to make a big difference. Dalers are solid in goal. They brought up kids with alot of talent so don't be so quick to count them out. Pequa will be talented as always but it will be great to watch two good teams play some gard lax.

Don't be fooled by the JV team. Pequa had a few underclassmen get serious varsity minutes last season. I'm sure if they stayed down the JV would have been much improved.

"Syosset's los of u-19 attackman is going to leave a huge hole. Baldwin will make some noise this year."

"Yes Syosset did lose a great attackman but have 11 D1 commits left in the team!!!"

I stand by my initial statement whether you have 5 or 15 commits...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

Ok tool bag look it up it is in black and white.

Laxpower has 7 tool bag and some of those 7 are real suspect non powerhouse schools. Face it Syosset has been a top 25 team in the nation last 2 years so by default some kids may get looks but don't confuse those 7 commits with the capability to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think farmingdale and pequa will battle each other as always and have some great games against each other. Both teams are strong. Dalers have a very good mix coming up as well as pequa I'm sure. If the jv team for pequa was any indication of what they have coming up then the coach has work to do. Not knocking them just based upon the game. I know people on both sides so I'm just being fair. I think farmingdale 2019,2018 kids are a good mix. Alot of talent plus new coach is going to make a big difference. Dalers are solid in goal. They brought up kids with alot of talent so don't be so quick to count them out. Pequa will be talented as always but it will be great to watch two good teams play some gard lax.

So I guess Syosset will see either Pequa or Farmingdale in the Nassau finals.

While its true that Syo graduated U19 kid, Pequa and FarmingDale also each lost their #1 scorer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset's los of u-19 attackman is going to leave a huge hole. Baldwin will make some noise this year.

Baldwin has a lacrosse team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be

fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

Ok tool bag look it up it is in black and white.

Laxpower has 7 tool bag and some of those 7 are real suspect non powerhouse schools. Face it Syosset has been a top 25 team in the nation last 2 years so by default some kids may get looks but don't confuse those 7 commits with the capability to win.

Ok sounds like soar loser let me see 0-2 for pequa in the last 2 county championship. Plus the 2018 group in Syosset is very strong also. It is D1 commit which ever way you slice it powerhouse or not. I guess where your top point leader went is not a powerhouse either!!! Cause we have one going there also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be

fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

Ok tool bag look it up it is in black and white.

Laxpower has 7 tool bag and some of those 7 are real suspect non powerhouse schools. Face it Syosset has been a top 25 team in the nation last 2 years so by default some kids may get looks but don't confuse those 7 commits with the capability to win.

Ok sounds like soar loser let me see 0-2 for pequa in the last 2 county championship. Plus the 2018 group in Syosset is very strong also. It is D1 commit which ever way you slice it powerhouse or not. I guess where your top point leader went is not a powerhouse either!!! Cause we have one going there also.

SYO will be very strong, they have a few non commits that have competed against the top D1 commits throughout LI and easily handled them. Commits mean absolutely nothing, it is a matter of the players playing as a cohesive unit and not selfishly. The core SYO 2018 have played together in the past and have been very successful.
Let's wait until the season starts and see how it all ends, we can come here an badmouth one another all day long but until the REAL season begins, it's all nothing but banter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be

fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Forgot 11 D1 players committed on varsity already, but you are right mediocre.

11 ????????????????????????????
Must be drinking or smoking some good stuff.F

Ok tool bag look it up it is in black and white.

Laxpower has 7 tool bag and some of those 7 are real suspect non powerhouse schools. Face it Syosset has been a top 25 team in the nation last 2 years so by default some kids may get looks but don't confuse those 7 commits with the capability to win.

Ok sounds like soar loser let me see 0-2 for pequa in the last 2 county championship. Plus the 2018 group in Syosset is very strong also. It is D1 commit which ever way you slice it powerhouse or not. I guess where your top point leader went is not a powerhouse either!!! Cause we have one going there also.

Pequa is a great feeder program or Nassau CC...

just so you understand (some of you don't), every HS team, graduates every senior, every year. Yet somehow they manage to field a team the following year. When discussing next years teams it really makes little sense to talk about who they lost but rather who is on the team.

(Ivy League not public)
(Patriot League not public)
Air Force
Hofstra
Loyola
Marist
Maryland
Michigan
Stony Brook

Pequot: Air Force commit. Hofstra commit. Lehigh commit x2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

(Ivy League not public)
(Patriot League not public)
Air Force
Hofstra
Loyola
Marist
Maryland
Michigan
Stony Brook

If his list is for Syosset you forgot
Yale
Lafayette
And will more before season starts

Hey Syosset I have a 2019 that did good against your D1 commits as a freshman starting on varsity is pretty good don't you think. Your such a moron and by the way it's true. Who gives a crap about D1 commits. Did it ever occur to you that the kid may be a good not great lax player but is going D1 because the school has alot to offer him. Spoken like a true idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

(Ivy League not public)
(Patriot League not public)
Air Force
Hofstra
Loyola
Marist
Maryland
Michigan
Stony Brook

Residual effect due to the last 2 years and if it not public then it's not in black and white. Stop vicariously peacocking or are one of those guys wearing the stuff from the college bookstore your son is hopefully attending.

Suffolk has alot more kids to choose from. Very talented. Nassau dad also. Talent was decent some good teams in finals but not bad for hs teams from long island competing in finals. Good for long island. Just because Syosset has been good recently don't get all full of your self. True they do have some 2018,2019 kids that are good and they may have 11 D1 commits but do you think anyone really cares. Cant wait to beat your a** in football. Going to be alot of fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Syosset I have a 2019 that did good against your D1 commits as a freshman starting on varsity is pretty good don't you think. Your such a moron and by the way it's true. Who gives a crap about D1 commits. Did it ever occur to you that the kid may be a good not great lax player but is going D1 because the school has alot to offer him. Spoken like a true idiot.

Pequa 0-2 last 2 county champs and it was a [lacrosse] slapping!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

(Ivy League not public)
(Patriot League not public)
Air Force
Hofstra
Loyola
Marist
Maryland
Michigan
Stony Brook

Residual effect due to the last 2 years and if it not public then it's not in black and white. Stop vicariously peacocking or are one of those guys wearing the stuff from the college bookstore your son is hopefully attending.

Oh really? Some of those kids were committed before the past 2 championship seasons for Syosset... How do you explain that? Do you really think that college coaches commit kids because the school has a name? They evaluate each kids play - mostly in summer and fall league play. (College Coaches are busy with their own lax season in the spring.)

So what the main thing is that they compete. As long as long island wins it who cares. Doesn't Syosset run in spurts. Your having a good run enjoy it because it won't last that long.

Trust me The helmet counts.

You are clueless. You actually think the HC recruits? Boob

So you are telling me 2 kids at prospect day. One from bad school, pick your bad school, don't want to belittle anybody. And one with top school helmet, both play the same that day, who are they talking to first.both with the same season stats

I think I am 100% right on. There is a reason kids from bad lax towns, go to Chaminade and St A

There you go again with the commits. Enough already. This may shock you but kids actually go to schools that have the academics that they are looking for and that want an education, not just lax. Plus the coaches are taking kids that are good academically and that are good athletes. What good is it to have a good athlete that can't make it because of his grades. He can be great but can't cut the mustard.

Which kid has better grades? Oh wait they have the same grades too. Come on. My son went to a prospect camp and didn't wear his schools helmet. And let me add that it was a D1 school. So now what? Let me guess,they don't look at him because now they have no clue where he's from but een though he played better then the guys with the helmet from their school they will not give him a look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you are telling me 2 kids at prospect day. One from bad school, pick your bad school, don't want to belittle anybody. And one with top school helmet, both play the same that day, who are they talking to first.both with the same season stats

They would take them both. Or probably not the one with the crazy parents.

Completely depends on the school. Two kids with equal playing ability you have to go with the kid who is coming from the school with a better academic reputation. Why take a kid who you don't know will be able to handle the work load. Now if we are talking lower academic institutions both are getting offers

Clearly your kid has been passed up sorry for that. You just don't get it.

FYI, no real man coach, cares about crazy parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Syosset I have a 2019 that did good against your D1 commits as a freshman starting on varsity is pretty good don't you think. Your such a moron and by the way it's true. Who gives a crap about D1 commits. Did it ever occur to you that the kid may be a good not great lax player but is going D1 because the school has alot to offer him. Spoken like a true idiot.

How did your son's HS Team do in the playoffs? Did his team make the pkayoffs? Starting on Varsity in 9th grade for a weak team means very little...

It's one of the top teams in Nassau that is always in it so nice try. Just maybe he is that good. Not a weak team at all. The difference is I don't go on this site to talk about my kid but when people make stupid comments it gets me pissed off. Your town isnt the only town that has talent like that. Listen we live on LI which produces a great deal of talent. We should be proud that long island represents all the time. He got looks at already from D1 to D3 schools. I'm not going to come on this site and brag about D1 commits cause in reality I'm worried about my son's academics and which school will fit his academic skills. I for one am happy when I hear that a long island team wins state or any tournament that they are in. Just remember lax is a tool that may help a kid get into a college that they may not have gotten into without lax. So good for those kids that are going to a school that they want to go to not which school his or her parents want them to go to. Sure I will be proud of which ever school my kid goes to.

Talent is talent, they could care less which helmet the kid wears. Now your trying to say because your kid has a helmet from a private school that he has to be better then a kid from a public hs. Catholic schools like to recruit kids as we all know. Your trying to put down kids that don't have a helmet. Come one man my kid plays with kids that have the helmet so does that make them any better. Good for you that you can afford to send him. Others are not as fortunate as some but don't knock the kids without the helmet.

My kid is public school .

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly your kid has been passed up sorry for that. You just don't get it.

Karma is a female dog and I'm sure every parent who wanted the best for their son had knots in their stomach until kid either verbally committed or signed a NLI. Don't be so pompous and condescending because your son is there already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's one of the top teams in Nassau that is always in it so nice try. Just maybe he is that good. Not a weak team at all. The difference is I don't go on this site to talk about my kid but when people make stupid comments it gets me pissed off. Your town isnt the only town that has talent like that. Listen we live on LI which produces a great deal of talent. We should be proud that long island represents all the time. He got looks at already from D1 to D3 schools. I'm not going to come on this site and brag about D1 commits cause in reality I'm worried about my son's academics and which school will fit his academic skills. I for one am happy when I hear that a long island team wins state or any tournament that they are in. Just remember lax is a tool that may help a kid get into a college that they may not have gotten into without lax. So good for those kids that are going to a school that they want to go to not which school his or her parents want them to go to. Sure I will be proud of which ever school my kid goes to.

"The difference is I don't go on this site to talk about my kid but when people make stupid comments it gets me pissed off." - Then I talk about my kid.

Too funny....

Without the plug about your kid, the rest of your post makes some sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

My son starts a big time program in about a week. Just found out about half the recruits coming in are 20 years old. This is [lacrosse]! My son is 17 and has always played by the rules. Unreal, but still know the best will prevail!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

What's a collegiate salary? Sounds like a college kid working fast food for minimum wage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Wow that was a lot of work for a premise that is patently false and completely misguided. D1 rosters are loaded with private school kids, especially the Ivies. You are making generalizations without any facts or examples. Nice try though.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Wow that was a lot of work for a premise that is patently false and completely misguided. D1 rosters are loaded with private school kids, especially the Ivies. You are making generalizations without any facts or examples. Nice try though.......

You read what you wanted to read and misguided yourself and patently jumped the gun.

I stated 'if I were coach'. The original question was 'who would you pick', which is opinion based.

Those are the opinions I have based on real world personal experience with private and public school families, schools and lax programs.

I understand the rosters all too well and agree...loaded with private school kids who are 20 year old freshmen.

IF I were coach, I'd change the trend and not give in to the current system that is ruining the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Wow that was a lot of work for a premise that is patently false and completely misguided. D1 rosters are loaded with private school kids, especially the Ivies. You are making generalizations without any facts or examples. Nice try though.......

You read what you wanted to read and misguided yourself and patently jumped the gun.

I stated 'if I were coach'. The original question was 'who would you pick', which is opinion based.

Those are the opinions I have based on real world personal experience with private and public school families, schools and lax programs.

I understand the rosters all too well and agree...loaded with private school kids who are 20 year old freshmen.

IF I were coach, I'd change the trend and not give in to the current system that is ruining the sport.

Well said Bernie Sanders...free education for everyone...D1 spots for everyone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Wow that was a lot of work for a premise that is patently false and completely misguided. D1 rosters are loaded with private school kids, especially the Ivies. You are making generalizations without any facts or examples. Nice try though.......

You read what you wanted to read and misguided yourself and patently jumped the gun.

I stated 'if I were coach'. The original question was 'who would you pick', which is opinion based.

Those are the opinions I have based on real world personal experience with private and public school families, schools and lax programs.

I understand the rosters all too well and agree...loaded with private school kids who are 20 year old freshmen.

IF I were coach, I'd change the trend and not give in to the current system that is ruining the sport.

Fair enough, that is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I have experience with both sides as well, my son is at a private now after being at a public up until his freshman year. IMO there are plenty of snobs that go to public schools, plenty of helicopter parents that have kids in public schools and plenty of self important, lazy, and entitled kids that go to public schools. Also, coming from what is considered a "powerhouse" lax program, I have seen numerous kids from this program get recruited and go on to college and wash out after the 1st year because they simply werent prepared for the next level. Conversely, I have met many kids who have always been private school kids that are humble, hardworking, and down to earth. Those same kids also seem better prepared for the next level. Theres a reason the D1 rosters are filled with private and prep school kids, and personally I dont see the sport being any worse for it. IMO the club scene and the money hungry club directors are ruining the game at the youth level. The parents are caught up in an arms race created by the club directors for their own benefit.

Unfortunately if you "were a coach" and tried to buck the trend and play by the rules you would be watching the playoffs from your home and after 2 years of doing that collecting unemployment.

Coaching jobs are not as secure as in the past. Schools are expecting so much more out of lacrosse programs with the cost of running programs rising every year.

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

Wow that was a lot of work for a premise that is patently false and completely misguided. D1 rosters are loaded with private school kids, especially the Ivies. You are making generalizations without any facts or examples. Nice try though.......

You read what you wanted to read and misguided yourself and patently jumped the gun.

I stated 'if I were coach'. The original question was 'who would you pick', which is opinion based.

Those are the opinions I have based on real world personal experience with private and public school families, schools and lax programs.

I understand the rosters all too well and agree...loaded with private school kids who are 20 year old freshmen.

IF I were coach, I'd change the trend and not give in to the current system that is ruining the sport.

Fair enough, that is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I have experience with both sides as well, my son is at a private now after being at a public up until his freshman year. IMO there are plenty of snobs that go to public schools, plenty of helicopter parents that have kids in public schools and plenty of self important, lazy, and entitled kids that go to public schools. Also, coming from what is considered a "powerhouse" lax program, I have seen numerous kids from this program get recruited and go on to college and wash out after the 1st year because they simply werent prepared for the next level. Conversely, I have met many kids who have always been private school kids that are humble, hardworking, and down to earth. Those same kids also seem better prepared for the next level. Theres a reason the D1 rosters are filled with private and prep school kids, and personally I dont see the sport being any worse for it. IMO the club scene and the money hungry club directors are ruining the game at the youth level. The parents are caught up in an arms race created by the club directors for their own benefit.

Not every kid in Private/Catholic is from a rich family. many children of Cops and teachers which keep their children grounded. Many of the publics they left had entitled students as well. Works both ways. but your are right as a coach family values and work ethic means a lot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

This whole argument is such BS. There are good and bad kids that go to privates and public. There are kids that come from horrible homes and are great kids and horrible kids that come from great homes. To assume someone is affluent because they send their child to a private school is just silly. How do you know if a a parent or parents are not working multiple jobs and sacrificing just so they may send their child to a private because that what suits their needs. Example parents bought a home in an under performing academic school district. So they work hard and put money away to send their child to a private. In my experience there are also those who live in very affluent towns that have bad schools so parents also send their kids to privates. There are so many different variations of this story it could take 100's of pages to type. The thing is to each their own and to judge from the outside is just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

Best post of the year....!!!

But if everyone did this BOTC would not be so much fun.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

This whole argument is such BS. There are good and bad kids that go to privates and public. There are kids that come from horrible homes and are great kids and horrible kids that come from great homes. To assume someone is affluent because they send their child to a private school is just silly. How do you know if a a parent or parents are not working multiple jobs and sacrificing just so they may send their child to a private because that what suits their needs. Example parents bought a home in an under performing academic school district. So they work hard and put money away to send their child to a private. In my experience there are also those who live in very affluent towns that have bad schools so parents also send their kids to privates. There are so many different variations of this story it could take 100's of pages to type. The thing is to each their own and to judge from the outside is just ridiculous.

+1

Which speaks to my original point that his premise was patently false and misguided......

you forgot about the rude people at the morning breakfast spot in that certain town. (Politically correct enough for ya?)

oh yeah and visor dad...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

last year for Smith East
Ward Melville has some years left and coming up
Smith West could surprise
Wi don't see them above those 2 even though a few very talented players, but that coach could do wonders, just that I don't see the parents like the past.
Quot??
Hills ???
Riverhead

Visor Dad - Faster than a speeding turtle, more powerful than a toyota prius, able to leap small curbs in a single bound... look up in the sky, its a bird, its Chad, no its VISOR DAD... love that guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

last year for Smith East
Ward Melville has some years left and coming up
Smith West could surprise
Wi don't see them above those 2 even though a few very talented players, but that coach could do wonders, just that I don't see the parents like the past.
Quot??
Hills ???
Riverhead

Can Bay Shore pull up another player or 2 to fill gaps. Shame that St Johns and St Anthony's has their attackman (Imagine if last year their Attack was a Drexel, Penn St and Lehigh commit). Not to mention the Mid ship Commit. All involved with that big school's athletic administration should be fired! See what happens when their is no Superintendent. Those 2 coaches have really been a miracle workers. Funny how other districts have multiple coaches and complain about it and those 2 guys have had no support.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Visor Dad - Faster than a speeding turtle, more powerful than a toyota prius, able to leap small curbs in a single bound... look up in the sky, its a bird, its Chad, no its VISOR DAD... love that guy.

so good on so many levels - thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

last year for Smith East
Ward Melville has some years left and coming up
Smith West could surprise
Wi don't see them above those 2 even though a few very talented players, but that coach could do wonders, just that I don't see the parents like the past.
Quot??
Hills ???
Riverhead

Can Bay Shore pull up another player or 2 to fill gaps. Shame that St Johns and St Anthony's has their attackman (Imagine if last year their Attack was a Drexel, Penn St and Lehigh commit). Not to mention the Mid ship Commit. All involved with that big school's athletic administration should be fired! See what happens when their is no Superintendent. Those 2 coaches have really been a miracle workers. Funny how other districts have multiple coaches and complain about it and those 2 guys have had no support.

From what I'm hearing, you sure you want the Drexel commit?

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Have to agree, SA academics are the worst. Uncertified teachers who do not teach content accurately. If you do't hire a public HS teacher as a tutor, or are really smart and proficient learning on your own GOOD LUCK!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

On Long Island, the top public school players tend to be from schools that are far "fancier" than the only two good private schools (Chaminade and St. Anthony's -- Chaminade is still the cheapest Catholic school in the NYC/LI area outside of Regis, which is free).

Let's look at the best public school programs in the Tri-State area: Garden City, Manhasset, Stony Brook, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset, Darien, New Canaan, Bronxville, etc.

Wow! Such tough, hard-working, blue-collar public school kids!

ST Anthonys= Lax Bro Acadamy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

On Long Island, the top public school players tend to be from schools that are far "fancier" than the only two good private schools (Chaminade and St. Anthony's -- Chaminade is still the cheapest Catholic school in the NYC/LI area outside of Regis, which is free).

Let's look at the best public school programs in the Tri-State area: Garden City, Manhasset, Stony Brook, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset, Darien, New Canaan, Bronxville, etc.

Wow! Such tough, hard-working, blue-collar public school kids!

Best? Think you left out Pequa and the Smithtowns. Blue collar kids getting the job done!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

On Long Island, the top public school players tend to be from schools that are far "fancier" than the only two good private schools (Chaminade and St. Anthony's -- Chaminade is still the cheapest Catholic school in the NYC/LI area outside of Regis, which is free).

Let's look at the best public school programs in the Tri-State area: Garden City, Manhasset, Stony Brook, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset, Darien, New Canaan, Bronxville, etc.

Wow! Such tough, hard-working, blue-collar public school kids!

I am sorry but you seem to be counting other peoples money and how they made it. You are telling me, you know that these parents are not working 80 hour weeks at what they do. Let it be stocks or turning a wrench. Whatever they do they must be good at it but its their money and how they spend it is their choice. Go count your money not somebody else's. Odds are many of these non blue collar guys are actually that but you dont know it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I were a coach with the choice to recruit only one of these players, I would take the public school kid.

Chances are he comes from a family that knows what it's like to work hard and not have a silver spoon in his mouth. Real world, better work ethic, more blue collar, and fights for what he gets. I am after all, a hard working employee on a collegiate salary...far from the starched white collar pretentious parent. Plus, my team will already have many of the snobs who don't realize I am using them for their money since they can pay near full tuition while given a small percentage scholarship. (They think they're so smart!)

Also, the parents of the public school athlete know not to expect anything, whereas the private school parents are going to chew my ear off and play politics during which I will have to nod politely ad nauseam...and cringe as they present themselves in docksiders, pink shorts and a sweater draped over their shoulders. Please.

I think the few times during the season we have a post game family meal, I'd prefer to associate with a family more like my own, so the public school kid is in. You see, I just don't like the veneer of the rich families.

Finally, the public school kid is going to work harder on the field to destroy and silence the rich boy snobs that are two years older, but are in the same recruiting class. I love seeing that fire in the public school athlete then watching the rich boys call their folks right after practice wondering what to do...internally hoping his helicopter parents could call me to discuss better opportunities.

Oh, by the way, I have far less private meetings with the public school kid, but I wish I had a dollar for every time a rich private school boy came to my office in near tears hoping I'd console him cause he can't adjust. Sorry, real life lesson son. Tough love. The public school kid understands what to do.

Final choice: the public school kid, who doesn't care what helmet he is wearing because he knows that's not what makes him better. It's his character, what's inside...not the helmet or parents that shield him. I'll know my recruit plays with his heart, hustles to prove his worth and expects nothing.

Did you really think I'd take a kid who arrogantly thinks he's better and deserves the slot because his pretentious parents raised him to believe such nonsense? He still has a lot to learn and 4-5 years of college isn't enough.

On Long Island, the top public school players tend to be from schools that are far "fancier" than the only two good private schools (Chaminade and St. Anthony's -- Chaminade is still the cheapest Catholic school in the NYC/LI area outside of Regis, which is free).

Let's look at the best public school programs in the Tri-State area: Garden City, Manhasset, Stony Brook, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset, Darien, New Canaan, Bronxville, etc.

Wow! Such tough, hard-working, blue-collar public school kids!

Best? Think you left out Pequa and the Smithtowns. Blue collar kids getting the job done!

Pequa not getting it done last 2 years... Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

last year for Smith East
Ward Melville has some years left and coming up
Smith West could surprise
Wi don't see them above those 2 even though a few very talented players, but that coach could do wonders, just that I don't see the parents like the past.
Quot??
Hills ???
Riverhead

What does the " I don't see the parents like the past" observation mean ? Lack of fan support ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Have to agree, SA academics are the worst. Uncertified teachers who do not teach content accurately. If you do't hire a public HS teacher as a tutor, or are really smart and proficient learning on your own GOOD LUCK!!

LOL, guess you gotta have faith.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Have to agree, SA academics are the worst. Uncertified teachers who do not teach content accurately. If you do't hire a public HS teacher as a tutor, or are really smart and proficient learning on your own GOOD LUCK!!

LOL, guess you gotta have faith.

Hey, George Micheal's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Have to agree, SA academics are the worst. Uncertified teachers who do not teach content accurately. If you do't hire a public HS teacher as a tutor, or are really smart and proficient learning on your own GOOD LUCK!!

LOL, guess you gotta have faith.

lol, yeah ok, IM SURE they will be disappointed .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

Have to agree, SA academics are the worst. Uncertified teachers who do not teach content accurately. If you do't hire a public HS teacher as a tutor, or are really smart and proficient learning on your own GOOD LUCK!!

LOL, guess you gotta have faith.

You can debate academics until the end of time, bright, dedicated kids will do well In publics and catholics, no doubt coaches are capable and good guys, but please let's not compare the lax program at Bay Shore with a school like St Anthony's, I can appreciate the support for your school district but talking lax is a little bit disingenuous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

lax Power

St A.....#9 in country

Bayshore.....#21 in sec 11....couldn't find nationally.

Facts only on BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

Wow this word for word could be talking about the Syosset lacrosse varsity team/coach and not St Anthony's. The two could be interchangeable . What a shame for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI had a strong team plus they are bringing up a few kids to make them even better than last year and with superior coaching it should be fun one to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We're you at hotbeds? Their were good games to watch especially the playoffs.

Yes there were some good games, but IMHO the overall field of teams was very weak. Good for WI for winning it, but I dont think its an indication of anything. WI will be competitive as always because of their superior coaching which will be masking some serious holes, but I dont see them matching up with Smithtown East or Ward Melville.

last year for Smith East
Ward Melville has some years left and coming up
Smith West could surprise
Wi don't see them above those 2 even though a few very talented players, but that coach could do wonders, just that I don't see the parents like the past.
Quot??
Hills ???
Riverhead

Can Bay Shore pull up another player or 2 to fill gaps. Shame that St Johns and St Anthony's has their attackman (Imagine if last year their Attack was a Drexel, Penn St and Lehigh commit). Not to mention the Mid ship Commit. All involved with that big school's athletic administration should be fired! See what happens when their is no Superintendent. Those 2 coaches have really been a miracle workers. Funny how other districts have multiple coaches and complain about it and those 2 guys have had no support.

From what I'm hearing, you sure you want the Drexel commit?

Me, yes. I think he, along with a freshman at SJB, would had been a big asset.

The questions I took out of this was, how many 8th graders will they pull up. Forget about who has left and if they will be disappointmented, but don't lose sight of the future 2021 2022. The other was, how many coaches do the other large schools have on their staffs be it volunteers or paid? Credit where credit is due with the 2 coaches, you showed you can compete with just 2 coaches and 8th graders. Can you get to the next level, I think you can with more coaches and some 8 th graders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

If you knew the team, last year could have been a lot different. Lots of player movement, maybe because of the social economic environment maybe because of the lack of tradition. I can't see why, it's nice to stroll along on that Main Street. Great atmosphere and restaurants, even sidewalks. What more could you ask for an eclectic town with blue collar families teaching tough family values. Sure some coaches, but not lax coaches, have been questionably removed, but not for having a student leave the school in their underwear, just maybe trying to getin them.

Seriously, fill in the blank.... Could be many. Winning or losing schools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

Wow this word for word could be talking about the Syosset lacrosse varsity team/coach and not St Anthony's. The two could be interchangeable . What a shame for the kids.

Stop, you are embarrassing yourself. Keep Syosset out of this nonsense. You have no idea what you are talking about. Syosset Lax is a meritocracy... If you work hard and have skill you play - full stop. Don't drag Syosset into your petty arguments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

my kids team is better than your kids team because..........

Try and post without any of the following themes that get used way to often on here

we are richer and can afford better training
we are poorer and therefore tougher
we have sidewalks
we can not smell our neighbors barbecue
our coach isn't getting indicted
our kids go home fully clothed
your better players go to private schools
we beat you last year in a scrimmage
you graduated a really good player
our dads drink Gin from real glasses not beer from red cups
we have kids committed that don't even play lacrosse
when our seniors were in 5th grade they were undefeated in PAL
you have no tradition at your school
Ty Xanders (Nuff Said)
Inside lacrosse (Nuff Said)
hey Mike - Put a face on this
Our JV beat your JV last year
we are the only HS on LI that has zero kids blazin'

and

We are better then you

If you knew the team, last year could have been a lot different. Lots of player movement, maybe because of the social economic environment maybe because of the lack of tradition. I can't see why, it's nice to stroll along on that Main Street. Great atmosphere and restaurants, even sidewalks. What more could you ask for an eclectic town with blue collar families teaching tough family values. Sure some coaches, but not lax coaches, have been questionably removed, but not for having a student leave the school in their underwear, just maybe trying to getin them.

Seriously, fill in the blank.... Could be many. Winning or losing schools

Yes... Tough family values... My son's HS Football Team had a scrimmage there a few years back.. All the kids bags where robbed of wallets and cell phones while the kids were on the field... Nice town!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

Wow this word for word could be talking about the Syosset lacrosse varsity team/coach and not St Anthony's. The two could be interchangeable . What a shame for the kids.

Could be any number of school

True, but the 8th grade Bay Shore attackman that left was the points leader for all of long island during the regular season prior to playoffs, difficult in a program like Bay Shore to replace nearly 100 points from one position. The town has a lot of lax talent, unfortunately most of the true talent goes to the either SA or SJB as freshman. REAL question is why do they leave?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

Wow this word for word could be talking about the Syosset lacrosse varsity team/coach and not St Anthony's. The two could be interchangeable . What a shame for the kids.

Stop, you are embarrassing yourself. Keep Syosset out of this nonsense. You have no idea what you are talking about. Syosset Lax is a meritocracy... If you work hard and have skill you play - full stop. Don't drag Syosset into your petty arguments.

the second poster is obviously a Syo parent whose kid is or was not playing as much as they would like - probably part of that "interesting" class of 2018

In 2015 WI lost pretty bad to SE and SW.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax at St Anthony's is much more competitive. You can guarantee also that you will be belittled, shamed and you will never develop on that team. The favorites play no matter the talent The others thrive in college!

Wow this word for word could be talking about the Syosset lacrosse varsity team/coach and not St Anthony's. The two could be interchangeable . What a shame for the kids.

Stop, you are embarrassing yourself. Keep Syosset out of this nonsense. You have no idea what you are talking about. Syosset Lax is a meritocracy... If you work hard and have skill you play - full stop. Don't drag Syosset into your petty arguments.

the second poster is obviously a Syo parent whose kid is or was not playing as much as they would like - probably part of that "interesting" class of 2018

Agree... They can't get over that their son's travel coach tells them that their kid is the best thing since sliced bread and should be starting on varsity, while he is at the bank cashing their check.

05/12/2016 WI vs Smithtown West 9-8 W
04/13/2016 WI vs Smithtown East 7-16 L

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2015 WI lost pretty bad to SE and SW.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lax Power

St A.....#9 in country

Bayshore.....#21 in sec 11....couldn't find nationally.

Facts only on BOTC

facts are facts....and BS is BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

hardly the only prodigy i the last 20 years but the others also left after 8th grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

05/12/2016 WI vs Smithtown West 9-8 W
04/13/2016 WI vs Smithtown East 7-16 L

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2015 WI lost pretty bad to SE and SW.

And half the team graduated, what is your point ?

Y

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

hardly the only prodigy i the last 20 years but the others also left after 8th grade

Ah yeah he is , kid is by far the most prolific player at the age to EVER play at that school, was the leading scorer on Long Island scoring around 98 /99 points for the regular season as a 13 year old 8th grader, BS program a joke. Just a fact numbers don't lie , coaches DO NOTHING at any level to develop those kids.

he's baaaaaaaaaack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Y

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

hardly the only prodigy i the last 20 years but the others also left after 8th grade

Ah yeah he is , kid is by far the most prolific player at the age to EVER play at that school, was the leading scorer on Long Island scoring around 98 /99 points for the regular season as a 13 year old 8th grader, BS program a joke. Just a fact numbers don't lie , coaches DO NOTHING at any level to develop those kids.

not saying the kid isn't great, because he is, I am sayig he is ot the "lone" prodigy to come out of BS - a couple of pretty good kids who wet to Chammy also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

Great news he is back!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

Who is he working for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

What is the side job?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Y

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

hardly the only prodigy i the last 20 years but the others also left after 8th grade

Ah yeah he is , kid is by far the most prolific player at the age to EVER play at that school, was the leading scorer on Long Island scoring around 98 /99 points for the regular season as a 13 year old 8th grader, BS program a joke. Just a fact numbers don't lie , coaches DO NOTHING at any level to develop those kids.

not saying the kid isn't great, because he is, I am sayig he is ot the "lone" prodigy to come out of BS - a couple of pretty good kids who wet to Chammy also

Yes Chamindae saw some great Bay Shore residents wear the Flyer uniform. Imagine if they stayed, but no prodigy that went to Chaminade ever slipped a Bay Shore uniform on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

Who is he working for?

peeps need to chill, he is coaching his sons summer team, same orginization that the new Manhasset coach works for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

Who is he working for?

peeps need to chill, he is coaching his sons summer team, same orginization that the new Manhasset coach works for.

It's dope! Gonna be a good season!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

I wouldn't call it a shole but can see how many explore their options. I do agree that the HS doesn't have a history of developing sports talent, outside of maybe volleyball and cheerleading. But I dont think anyone was saying the coaches were taking responsibility, could be wrong, but they do manage what they have. In this day and age it is rare that a HS or PAL coach could take responsibility.

If the town had any leadership, like Massapequa Smithtown or 3 Village, the sports as a whole would be a lot better. Talent is there and has been. Just no cohesion to help the HS get better in the sports. The "not my problem" and "it's good enough" atmosphere shows by the assortment of athletes roaming the halls and not the playing fields.

Rumor has it legendary JC Mr Ward Melville wanted to start his Lacrosse Legacy at Bay Shore but they turned down one of the best down. Imagine that.

Looking into the future, my bet is basketball and Baseball will prosper in the near future. No disrespect there. I also suspect the future of the sport administration will change rather quickly through both natural attrituon and replacement. Can't happen soon enough.

Some say you cant argue the academics, ill bite. what facts, show where they rank as a public school. Not Newsday latest ranking where 60 NY schools ranked top 500 in the country 19 of the 60 on LI closest school sayville. Lots of other lax districts on that list. Okay maybe that is to high of a bar to set, but as a rebutal, please don't give me the survey which is taken from the 39 parents who give it a glowing recommendation. Give qualified rankings with legitimate objective ranking. They do have one heck of a drama department though.

This being a sports site concentrated on lacrosse, I also wonder if the 2018 teams will be playing on those once fanciful fields. Another rumor is they will be condemned and mark as unsuitable to play on. What's the plan? If lacrosse is still big part of your HS life away games or games at the MS are not what you want.

Ps. Nice move not allowing the team to utilize the fields this winter or summer. That's one way to make the lax community know where they rank. Just confusing when West Ilsip and Islip can use theirs.

"And when my prayers to God were, meet with indifference, I picked up a pen and wrote my own deliverance"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cox and Spruyt coaches are great. Those kids leaving are going to be terribly disappointed they went to st ants and Sjb. Buyer beware. Bay shore coaches are very good. Academics better too at BS.

please stop. I just threw up in my mouth. BS is BS at every level except the track team. don't let the average coaches take credit for the lone prodigy in the last 20 years that sharpened his skills on the club lax circuit. good for him for getting out of that S hole.

I wouldn't call it a shole but can see how many explore their options. I do agree that the HS doesn't have a history of developing sports talent, outside of maybe volleyball and cheerleading. But I dont think anyone was saying the coaches were taking responsibility, could be wrong, but they do manage what they have. In this day and age it is rare that a HS or PAL coach could take responsibility.

If the town had any leadership, like Massapequa Smithtown or 3 Village, the sports as a whole would be a lot better. Talent is there and has been. Just no cohesion to help the HS get better in the sports. The "not my problem" and "it's good enough" atmosphere shows by the assortment of athletes roaming the halls and not the playing fields.

Rumor has it legendary JC Mr Ward Melville wanted to start his Lacrosse Legacy at Bay Shore but they turned down one of the best down. Imagine that.

Looking into the future, my bet is basketball and Baseball will prosper in the near future. No disrespect there. I also suspect the future of the sport administration will change rather quickly through both natural attrituon and replacement. Can't happen soon enough.

Some say you cant argue the academics, ill bite. what facts, show where they rank as a public school. Not Newsday latest ranking where 60 NY schools ranked top 500 in the country 19 of the 60 on LI closest school sayville. Lots of other lax districts on that list. Okay maybe that is to high of a bar to set, but as a rebutal, please don't give me the survey which is taken from the 39 parents who give it a glowing recommendation. Give qualified rankings with legitimate objective ranking. They do have one heck of a drama department though.

This being a sports site concentrated on lacrosse, I also wonder if the 2018 teams will be playing on those once fanciful fields. Another rumor is they will be condemned and mark as unsuitable to play on. What's the plan? If lacrosse is still big part of your HS life away games or games at the MS are not what you want.

Ps. Nice move not allowing the team to utilize the fields this winter or summer. That's one way to make the lax community know where they rank. Just confusing when West Ilsip and Islip can use theirs.

"And when my prayers to God were, meet with indifference, I picked up a pen and wrote my own deliverance"

Are you referring to the two turf fields ? What is the issue ? I see kids on them all the time.

After reading these posts off and on for a few months, I've come to the conclusion that these so called "adults" have way too much time on their hands,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

he's baaaaaaaaaack

let's hope he drops his new "side" job now that he's back again..... if he wants to do the right thing by the kids and the district he should. If he wasn't coming back it was a good idea but now that he's back it's a major conflict of interest from many standpoints especially bc of who he is working for. Just going to put him right back in trouble and being questioned, the kids don't deserve the turmoil.

Who is he working for?

peeps need to chill, he is coaching his sons summer team, same orginization that the new Manhasset coach works for.

Yes but the owner of the club team that Calabria will be coaching for has a son that will be playing for Calabria. I'm sure if the coaching check is large enough, he will be brought up to varsity no later than 9th grade. Complete conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes but the owner of the club team that Calabria will be coaching for has a son that will be playing for Calabria. I'm sure if the coaching check is large enough, he will be brought up to varsity no later than 9th grade. Complete conflict of interest.

there are conflicts of interest in everything,deal with it - I think that there is a conflict of interest in a web site that does not allow negative comments about clubs and club owners that advertise on there site but there is nothing we can do about it. My suggestion to you is start a youth program and hire people that can help advance your child

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes but the owner of the club team that Calabria will be coaching for has a son that will be playing for Calabria. I'm sure if the coaching check is large enough, he will be brought up to varsity no later than 9th grade. Complete conflict of interest.

there are conflicts of interest in everything,deal with it - I think that there is a conflict of interest in a web site that does not allow negative comments about clubs and club owners that advertise on there site but there is nothing we can do about it. My suggestion to you is start a youth program and hire people that can help advance your child

I dont think his son will need any help why dont you stop stirring the pot with your bs .

What club team does JC coach?

Many coaches were investigated this year and got fired. Too much bs and favortism as very talented players are benched. It's pay to play with the hs crap. Look at was written up in Newsday about an AD and coach retaliating against a girl player not sure if it was lax but how disguisting was that! Shame Shame Shame on you coaches.

[quote=Anonymous]What club team does JC coach? [/quote

How is the Igloo 2020 team supposed to be this year ?

Thanks Dad

Exactly how many coaches were investigated? What a completely asinine statement. Where are you getting your facts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks Dad

YOU ARE SOOOOO STUPID

Who's coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who's coaching?

Lol this is to funny!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who's coaching?

The guy with the whistle

The guy who's going to have to jump when his boss whistles.

Any surprises if a player left to go to another school. Whether incoming freshman or Sophomores. I guess you can only really tell if they play football.

Winners and losers this year from the exodus

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises if a player left to go to another school. Whether incoming freshman or Sophomores. I guess you can only really tell if they play football.

Winners and losers this year from the exodus

Huh ? Come again.

Do you mean coming or going to privates ? The dust is settling. Could be a few surprises I am sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but the 8th grade Bay Shore attackman that left was the points leader for all of long island during the regular season prior to playoffs, difficult in a program like Bay Shore to replace nearly 100 points from one position. The town has a lot of lax talent, unfortunately most of the true talent goes to the either SA or SJB as freshman. REAL question is why do they leave?

They leave because Bay Shore school district is terrible. Better education and environment elsewhere. Simple.

Real question is do they leave because of the demographics or the education? Good luck answering that one honestly.

Question. So the Brentwood stars and Bay Shore star are all attending SA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. So the Brentwood stars and Bay Shore star are all attending SA?

Yes Sir, they will be majoring in Lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Real question is do they leave because of the demographics or the education? Good luck answering that one honestly.

Both. That was another simple one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. So the Brentwood stars and Bay Shore star are all attending SA?

Yes Sir, they will be majoring in Lacrosse

It should be an interesting year with these 'stars', let's see what the siblings and Bay Shore star bring out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Real question is do they leave because of the demographics or the education? Good luck answering that one honestly.

Both, especially when you live in Brightwaters and attend Bay Shore schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. So the Brentwood stars and Bay Shore star are all attending SA?

Yes Sir, they will be majoring in Lacrosse

It should be an interesting year with these 'stars', let's see what the siblings and Bay Shore star bring out.

You just can't quit it can you? stop with the "star" references and BS....You are the epitome of jealousy. if you spent more time helping your kid rather than being on different threads asking the same stupid questions and hating on kids your kid would be a better player. your kid won't get better when you're always sitting on your butt on the pc spewing venom at all these kids. How about we see what your kid brings out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, but the 8th grade Bay Shore attackman that left was the points leader for all of long island during the regular season prior to playoffs, difficult in a program like Bay Shore to replace nearly 100 points from one position. The town has a lot of lax talent, unfortunately most of the true talent goes to the either SA or SJB as freshman. REAL question is why do they leave?

They leave because Bay Shore school district is terrible. Better education and environment elsewhere. Simple.

Agreed.

Experienced the 8th grade graduation. Experience that once and you may see things differently.

Speak with the HS principle and you realize as it may be for some, who can adapt, it may not be best for yours. Why take the chance.

Was great a few years ago, don't see that returning.

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

All you "kids" welcome to the big leagues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

Bad reputation in what regard? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people are more concerned with the demographics of the school than the quality of the education, which happens to be top notch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

Bad reputation in what regard? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people are more concerned with the demographics of the school than the quality of the education, which happens to be top notch.

I'm not sure if people really know what they're talking about but generally the word is that Bay Shore is not a good school district. I don't think people even know where to find out if it's "top notch" as you say it is. I'm not saying it's bad and I wouldn't even know where to look...

You just nailed it. Best part, is as this sport grows and that demographic that these parents want nothing to do with joins the sport, little Johnny will be back on the bowling team...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

Bad reputation in what regard? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people are more concerned with the demographics of the school than the quality of the education, which happens to be top notch.

I'm not sure if people really know what they're talking about but generally the word is that Bay Shore is not a good school district. I don't think people even know where to find out if it's "top notch" as you say it is. I'm not saying it's bad and I wouldn't even know where to look...

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

Bad reputation in what regard? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people are more concerned with the demographics of the school than the quality of the education, which happens to be top notch.

I'm not sure if people really know what they're talking about but generally the word is that Bay Shore is not a good school district. I don't think people even know where to find out if it's "top notch" as you say it is. I'm not saying it's bad and I wouldn't even know where to look...

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Umm, actually Bay Shore happens to be a very good school district, do the research and get your facts straight before making asinine statements.

Bay shore school district def has a bad reputation regardless of what your research shows. Not sure how you change that...

Bad reputation in what regard? Im gonna go out on a limb here and say that people are more concerned with the demographics of the school than the quality of the education, which happens to be top notch.

I'm not sure if people really know what they're talking about but generally the word is that Bay Shore is not a good school district. I don't think people even know where to find out if it's "top notch" as you say it is. I'm not saying it's bad and I wouldn't even know where to look...

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.

I think saying they are very good is asinine. Define very good. One would think top half of LI would be very good, maybe top half Suffolk, top half Islip. Please define very good with Measurables. Because I don't see it.

Has J C been reinstated?

Wow, the money makes it all better argument. The US government has been dumping money into underperforming school districts for decades. The result? Said districts are still underperforming. Completely misguided argument. That's the DeBlasio method of improving schools, dump money in. Doesn't work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has J C been reinstated?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, the money makes it all better argument. The US government has been dumping money into underperforming school districts for decades. The result? Said districts are still underperforming. Completely misguided argument. That's the DeBlasio method of improving schools, dump money in. Doesn't work.

Thank you for clearing up the under-performing schools in 100 words or less. Yes it is criminal how in 3 years DeBlasio has destroyed the once great and trouble free NYC school system.

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

Laughable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, the money makes it all better argument. The US government has been dumping money into underperforming school districts for decades. The result? Said districts are still underperforming. Completely misguided argument. That's the DeBlasio method of improving schools, dump money in. Doesn't work.

Thank you for clearing up the under-performing schools in 100 words or less. Yes it is criminal how in 3 years DeBlasio has destroyed the once great and trouble free NYC school system.

NYC schools have been a disaster for over 50 years. There is no salvaging them. If things don't change will Long Island be far behind? Will we all be lining up to send our kids to privates like in NYC? Could this be the future?? Scary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

If that helps you sleep better, okay. the real news will hit later this week when Newsday hears from gov coumo's office on the latest teacher YouTube video. In my opinion, although funny, the two videos (last spring and this week) show a clear lack of respect. I wouldnt want that type of publicity filmed or advocated in my schools by my teachers or admins.

Let's just call it what it is, Cronyism at the highest levels of state government. The most powerful union in the state continues to thwart any attempts to improve schools to line the pockets of both government officials as well as top union leaders. Who cares about the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, the money makes it all better argument. The US government has been dumping money into underperforming school districts for decades. The result? Said districts are still underperforming. Completely misguided argument. That's the DeBlasio method of improving schools, dump money in. Doesn't work.

Thank you for clearing up the under-performing schools in 100 words or less. Yes it is criminal how in 3 years DeBlasio has destroyed the once great and trouble free NYC school system.

NYC schools have been a disaster for over 50 years. There is no salvaging them. If things don't change will Long Island be far behind? Will we all be lining up to send our kids to privates like in NYC? Could this be the future?? Scary

"demographic" and bay shore. When you buy in the district you know what you are getting. People don't leave Bay Shore for the private schools because of the demographic. They leave because they feel that the private school is a better fit for their kids. Bay Shore education is solid, what is lacking for such a big district is a lack of understanding about the importance sports plays in the lives of teenagers. Boys sports are an afterthought there. The district has plenty of talent. What they do not have is an athletic director who cares or coaches that care to build a program. They have teams not programs..The school board is clueless and does not care to address any issues other than "progressive" issues. What they fail to realize is that in a district with a diverse economic means, sports is the great equalizer. Promotes character, self esteem and for kid with limited role models or family a coach or team can be a very important positive influence in their lives..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, the money makes it all better argument. The US government has been dumping money into underperforming school districts for decades. The result? Said districts are still underperforming. Completely misguided argument. That's the DeBlasio method of improving schools, dump money in. Doesn't work.

Thank you for clearing up the under-performing schools in 100 words or less. Yes it is criminal how in 3 years DeBlasio has destroyed the once great and trouble free NYC school system.

NYC schools have been a disaster for over 50 years. There is no salvaging them. If things don't change will Long Island be far behind? Will we all be lining up to send our kids to privates like in NYC? Could this be the future?? Scary

The reason why schools in NYC suck is because white people moved out of the city. It has literally nothing to do with teachers, curriculum, spending, etc.

Demographics uber alles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

You really can't be serious? People flock to WI for the schools. Have you EVER heard anyone say or hear of anyone moving to BS for the schools? Enough with this ridiculous thread, move on.

break brightwaters off from Bay shore and then maybe you've got some potential...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

You really can't be serious? People flock to WI for the schools. Have you EVER heard anyone say or hear of anyone moving to BS for the schools? Enough with this ridiculous thread, move on. [/quote

People move to West Islip because the schools are perceived to be good. Lets be real, we all know why people move to West Islip..........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

Laughable

Correct, they are laughable.....

There are different reasons why we lose kids to St Ants,Cham or SJB. We lost 2 attack and a middie last year to St ants and attack to sjb. The team will go on and the coaches will make do with what they have. Is it a shame that we lost them? yes. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"demographic" and bay shore. When you buy in the district you know what you are getting. People don't leave Bay Shore for the private schools because of the demographic. They leave because they feel that the private school is a better fit for their kids. Bay Shore education is solid, what is lacking for such a big district is a lack of understanding about the importance sports plays in the lives of teenagers. Boys sports are an afterthought there. The district has plenty of talent. What they do not have is an athletic director who cares or coaches that care to build a program. They have teams not programs..The school board is clueless and does not care to address any issues other than "progressive" issues. What they fail to realize is that in a district with a diverse economic means, sports is the great equalizer. Promotes character, self esteem and for kid with limited role models or family a coach or team can be a very important positive influence in their lives..

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

You really can't be serious? People flock to WI for the schools. Have you EVER heard anyone say or hear of anyone moving to BS for the schools? Enough with this ridiculous thread, move on. [/quote

People move to West Islip because the schools are perceived to be good. Lets be real, we all know why people move to West Islip..........

Yes we do, what's wrong with that? Always been a desirable town to live--great schools, nice neighborhoods, good people, close to RoMo, close to LIRR, lots of canals, great hospital a mile away.... What more do you need?

With many starting their 1st or 2nd week of football games, can we talk about who is going to what Fall tournaments as a HS team. Who is going where?

no ....lets not

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part [/quote]

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.
[/quote]

Since you said the person should get their facts straight I figured I would post there here. If we are just looking at SAT scores the difference between 10 and 20 is 100 points and the difference between 10 and 51 is 200 pints. So if mom and dad can afford to pay for a few sessions that can improve your score by 100-150 it makes a big difference in how people view your district.
http://patch.com/new-[lacrosse]/huntingto...hools-sat-scores-ranked-highest-lowest-0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.
[/quote]

Since you said the person should get their facts straight I figured I would post there here. If we are just looking at SAT scores the difference between 10 and 20 is 100 points and the difference between 10 and 51 is 200 pints. So if mom and dad can afford to pay for a few sessions that can improve your score by 100-150 it makes a big difference in how people view your district.
http://patch.com/new-[lacrosse]/huntingto...hools-sat-scores-ranked-highest-lowest-0 [/quote]

Ever occur to you that the kids are NOT doing the work? Maybe the kids in GC , Jericho and Manhasset work harder because their parents instilled that in them. How come a school like GC excels both academically and athletically? Is that money as well? Or is it a work ethic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.

Since you said the person should get their facts straight I figured I would post there here. If we are just looking at SAT scores the difference between 10 and 20 is 100 points and the difference between 10 and 51 is 200 pints. So if mom and dad can afford to pay for a few sessions that can improve your score by 100-150 it makes a big difference in how people view your district.
http://patch.com/new-[lacrosse]/huntingto...hools-sat-scores-ranked-highest-lowest-0 [/quote]

Ever occur to you that the kids are NOT doing the work? Maybe the kids in GC , Jericho and Manhasset work harder because their parents instilled that in them. How come a school like GC excels both academically and athletically? Is that money as well? Or is it a work ethic [/quote]

That's money too...travel lax, private lax training, speed & agility, etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.

Since you said the person should get their facts straight I figured I would post there here. If we are just looking at SAT scores the difference between 10 and 20 is 100 points and the difference between 10 and 51 is 200 pints. So if mom and dad can afford to pay for a few sessions that can improve your score by 100-150 it makes a big difference in how people view your district.
http://patch.com/new-[lacrosse]/huntingto...hools-sat-scores-ranked-highest-lowest-0

Ever occur to you that the kids are NOT doing the work? Maybe the kids in GC , Jericho and Manhasset work harder because their parents instilled that in them. How come a school like GC excels both academically and athletically? Is that money as well? Or is it a work ethic [/quote]

That's money too...travel lax, private lax training, speed & agility, etc [/quote]

None of you talk about the kids that are special needs that school districts kick the kids out to other districts so it doesn't effect their academic standardsk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I use Zillow to check out school districts ratings, and Bay Shore does not rate high.

Do you consider West Islip a good district? Zillow has West Islip rated slightly higher than Bay Shore and on some sites Bay Shore is rated higher. I have intimate knowledge of both and honestly Bay Shore is a much better district. West Islip has very good athletics but is one of the most overrated academic districts in the state.

You really can't be serious? People flock to WI for the schools. Have you EVER heard anyone say or hear of anyone moving to BS for the schools? Enough with this ridiculous thread, move on. [/quote

People move to West Islip because the schools are perceived to be good. Lets be real, we all know why people move to West Islip..........

Yes we do, what's wrong with that? Always been a desirable town to live--great schools, nice neighborhoods, good people, close to RoMo, close to LIRR, lots of canals, great hospital a mile away.... What more do you need?

Thats definitely putting a positive spin on it. Closer to the truth would be mediocre schools, insanely high taxes, cliquey people, and an average at best hospital. Agree on the LIRR, close to ROMO and and lots of canals though.........

What is ROMO ? I thought he's hurt ? Really ? You people have to argue who's town is better then who's? My 2 cents ?? No town is the same as they were back in the early 80's when most of us were growing up. Can we agree on that ? And how many of you actually live in the same town you grew up in ? That's what keeps a neiborhood nice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is ROMO ? I thought he's hurt ? Really ? You people have to argue who's town is better then who's? My 2 cents ?? No town is the same as they were back in the early 80's when most of us were growing up. Can we agree on that ? And how many of you actually live in the same town you grew up in ? That's what keeps a neiborhood nice.

80's? Maybe in the late 1960's....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a lot of people do not realize some of these districts are better than the numbers indicate. They are hampered by a few key statistics that ultimately comes down to money. The key stats that keep some of these districts lower are:
1. SAT scores. A district can go from bottom half to top 20 if the numbers increased by 200 points. It's not to say the kids are stupid but mom and dad can't afford to pay for the same SAT prep class and specialize tutor someone in hills/smithtown or GC can afford to pay for.

2. The number of kids going on to 2 and 4 year collage. I guarantee you there are kids in these so called under-performing schools that given the same opportunity would excel. Some of them finish high school with very good grades but cannot afford to pay for collage and thus decide to enter the workforce and that is a big knock on a district numbers.

3. The number of kids that are taking (paying) AP class again finances play a big part

Sorry, no district is better than their numbers. Their numbers are what they are. Any district can say, this or that, to make them seem better but the metrics are what they are.

Since you said the person should get their facts straight I figured I would post there here. If we are just looking at SAT scores the difference between 10 and 20 is 100 points and the difference between 10 and 51 is 200 pints. So if mom and dad can afford to pay for a few sessions that can improve your score by 100-150 it makes a big difference in how people view your district.
http://patch.com/new-[lacrosse]/huntingto...hools-sat-scores-ranked-highest-lowest-0

Ever occur to you that the kids are NOT doing the work? Maybe the kids in GC , Jericho and Manhasset work harder because their parents instilled that in them. How come a school like GC excels both academically and athletically? Is that money as well? Or is it a work ethic

That's money too...travel lax, private lax training, speed & agility, etc [/quote]

None of you talk about the kids that are special needs that school districts kick the kids out to other districts so it doesn't effect their academic standardsk
[/quote]

I love how people of privilege always assume those without refuse to work hard and thats why they are in this situation. The districts you mention is a prime example of privilege. One on one SAT tutoring $5-10k. If you play sports speed and agility, shooting or whatever training $100-$300 per month. Travel lax can total almost $10k per year if the whole family is traveling out of state multiple times a year. You know the same kids with a new car as a hs junior. No none of that is not privilege. I thought everyone can afford that nut for just one kkid. What happens when you have 3 or 4 kids.

And i agree with the special needs comment also because another wonderful district Hills has one of the largest special education program. I wonder if Bayshore has the resources to move that many kids into special education so they don't bring their numbers down.

the real question not be answered on here and it is the only important question that needs to be answered is who has the best pizza and the best bagels?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the real question not be answered on here and it is the only important question that needs to be answered is who has the best pizza and the best bagels?

Ok West Islip has great pizza and bagels.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the real question not be answered on here and it is the only important question that needs to be answered is who has the best pizza and the best bagels?

Exactly....

Time to get Pequa and Syosset back in the mix...!!!

Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.

This is true in most places, though less true on Long Island and in Upstate New [lacrosse].

What's less true, that lacrosse is a sport for the wealthy? GC, Manhaaset, West Islip, and on and on, the wealthy xommunities dominate. Even Massapequa, with a super wealthy south of Merrick is no "blue collar town"

I am blue collar on the North side of town, it's called working with your kid in the back yard, going to burns doing 4 or 5 buckets of balls, push ups, sit ups, sprints, all free. Determination, hard work and talent will get you a D1 player, Money will get u on Express A team, sitting on the bench.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the real question not be answered on here and it is the only important question that needs to be answered is who has the best pizza and the best bagels?

Exactly....

Time to get Pequa and Syosset back in the mix...!!!

Huntington has awesome pizza: Gino's and Portofino.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am blue collar on the North side of town, it's called working with your kid in the back yard, going to burns doing 4 or 5 buckets of balls, push ups, sit ups, sprints, all free. Determination, hard work and talent will get you a D1 player, Money will get u on Express A team, sitting on the bench.

Are you north of Sunrise? North of the RR tracks? North of Montauk?

Manhasset has better pizza AND lax Plandome road has at least 2 superior joints

What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.

This is true in most places, though less true on Long Island and in Upstate New [lacrosse].

Blue towns have closed the gap - but lax ( esp boys) is still ruled by the yuppies
Dads on sidelines standing in loafers with no socks - freshly ironed polo shirts, shorts with alama mater visors covering the receding hair line reminiscing about back in the day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Words like people of privilege is liberal nonsense. Use the right words, rich and poor. Sorry if you don't like it but lacrosse is a sport of the wealthy. Always has been always will be. Look at every roster on the big name D1 schools. All rich kids, oops sorry Hillary, people of privilege.

This is true in most places, though less true on Long Island and in Upstate New [lacrosse].

Blue towns have closed the gap - but lax ( esp boys) is still ruled by the yuppies
Dads on sidelines standing in loafers with no socks - freshly ironed polo shirts, shorts with alama mater visors covering the receding hair line reminiscing about back in the day

That is so true, and hysterical! Love the receding hairline part!!!

As opposed to the heroes in the sleeveless black tshirt gym shorts and those awesome New Balance sneakers. Don't forget the Oakley orange shades and the kicking pony tail. Yeah that look is a winner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Amen brother

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.

My grad 2019 son has committed to a top 20 school. The program lists their commits and he is one of only 3 kids not coming from a prep school/academy in 2017/2018/2019. Just a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has better pizza AND lax Plandome road has at least 2 superior joints

Let's remember..

This past spring, Manhasset lost to the team, that lost to the team, that lost to the team that won the NYS Championship. I guess that means there good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My grad 2019 son has committed to a top 20 school. The program lists their commits and he is one of only 3 kids not coming from a prep school/academy in 2017/2018/2019. Just a fact.

Let's hear it for affirmative action!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Wow! You are setting the bar pretty low with that boast.

LOl...Not this year Scotty's got some ringers coming up..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Wow! You are setting the bar pretty low with that boast.

it was meant as a joke, but, being better then WI is setting the bar pretty high IMHO, great great lacrosse tradition. This was a lacrosse statement nothing to do with your flatulence oops i'm sorry your affluence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I said is that most D1 lacrosse rosters are loaded with kids from prep schools and wealthy neighborhoods. Look at almost every ACC roster and see how many players are prep school kids. Majority of roster

This is true.

But there are still many kids from "regular" towns in Upstate NY and from here on Long Island. There are plenty of D1 players who aren't from Garden City / Manhasset / CSH.

Of course there are, but even those students from Md, California, Florida, and Texas are prep school kids and every roster has an IMG graduate now.

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOl...Not this year Scotty's got some ringers coming up..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Sorry, ringers or not, WI doesnt get anywhere near the Suffolk championship. Ward Melville and Smithtown East are both loaded

We here that every year about SE

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see. [/quote]

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI [/quote]

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI [/quote]

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If " [/quote]

So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country

and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If " [/quote]

So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's. [/quote]

Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course they are. No other way they could get recruited other than repeating 9th grade in private. Only way to compete against LI public kids is to play down a year or two. These kids all get their asses handed to them when they play on age. Parents then realize, holy crap "my kid is not so good". So at 14 they play against 12 year olds to get noticed... At the moment it's working. However, many of these kids are not competing well, or panning out at the next level. You'll see.

I don't buy that argument. My son has played against kids from all over the country

and the vast majority are on age. I keep hearing this argument but not seeing it in person at multiple tournaments. And before it is asked, the question is usually answered by the parents in casual conversation, i.e. little Johnny has a birthday coming up and he's going to be XX years old. An I am from LI

If "you don't buy the argument " , you probably have a 19 year old high school sophomore. Because everyone who is not cheating , sees it on every team , in every tournament they play in.

If "

So I don't agree with you so I have a 19 year old sophomore?? No he's 15, will be 16. So who is everyone? Or is it one disgruntled moron who keeps posting this nonsense. Sorry if junior is 5'2" and 113 pounds, but don't make your problem everyone else's. [/quote]

Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16?? [/quote]

yes a late sept ,oct or nov 2000 birthday . my 2020 is 13 wont turn 14 till end of nov

Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16?? [/quote]

My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem?

We shall see...we play better when challenged... keep it up...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOl...Not this year Scotty's got some ringers coming up..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I keep coming back to this thread hoping that the conversation turns away from the socioeconomics of the lacrosse community

God, grant me the serenity to accept threads I cannot change,
Courage to posts the things I can,
And wisdom to know GC is better than WI.

Sorry, ringers or not, WI doesnt get anywhere near the Suffolk championship. Ward Melville and Smithtown East are both loaded

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16??

My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem? [/quote]

Most on-age seniors will start the year at 17 and end at 18.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hmmmm. My junior is 15 turning 16??

My senior is 16 turning 17. So right now my senior is the same age as your sophomore - do you see the problem? [/quote]

Your kidding right? Every boy in his class is the same age. You need to get a grip. I was 18 when I graduated HS, same age as my son will be, Spring birthday. Sorry jerk, neither I nor my son was a hold back. Now I see the problem, your Senior is a wisp of a lad whose birthday is in the fall, therefore he is a tad on the young side, you and the husband had the option of going either way, you put him up, your fault not mine or anyone else's. You prince is YOUNG for his grade, see the problem?

This age discussion regarding high school teams seems out of place considering that high school teams cover four, if not five, years of boys. The debate is applicable for travel teams, where there is at least a tacit attempt to have like-aged boys play against each other. But, high school? Welcome to the real world!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

her son will be one of those mysterious transfers ....the blessing line is a dead give away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

My son committed in Sophomore year, and I agree with poster above regarding the pressure of the process. It is tough on the kid and the family. Total roller coaster ride. Some of these Coaches are not "decent" guys. They put these kids through the ringer. Some really showed their true colors and we're thankful our son is not playing for some of them. However, as with everything in life your son has new pressures to deal with. Keeping the grades up, keeping the skills up, continuing to play at a high level against the best competition. Many kids also feel like they have to "live up to" their D1 commit status in every game they play. They also must continue to stay out of trouble and away from issues that plague all young people. Oh and then your new College Coaches continue to watch you play. So you still need to perform. It's not easy for these kids. Much to manage and stay on top of.

what you seem to miss is that alot of kids do a PG year at a Prep school, if they go to D1 lax school they most likely will use the Prep school they attended as the HS rather then the public school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

My son committed in Sophomore year, and I agree with poster above regarding the pressure of the process. It is tough on the kid and the family. Total roller coaster ride. Some of these Coaches are not "decent" guys. They put these kids through the ringer. Some really showed their true colors and we're thankful our son is not playing for some of them. However, as with everything in life your son has new pressures to deal with. Keeping the grades up, keeping the skills up, continuing to play at a high level against the best competition. Many kids also feel like they have to "live up to" their D1 commit status in every game they play. They also must continue to stay out of trouble and away from issues that plague all young people. Oh and then your new College Coaches continue to watch you play. So you still need to perform. It's not easy for these kids. Much to manage and stay on top of.

my son had the option to commit pre freshman year and opted not to, didn't have a clue on what or where ?? Still doesn't. And yes, he will graduate at the at of 17.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

did not mean to imply that he "kicked back"...on the contrary; he worked even harder to prove that he deserved that spot. He had an academic incentive to achieve as well by the coach. there was no kicking back. He played fall, winter spring and summer ball since he committed. He def subscribes to the "the only easy day was yesterday" mentality and loves the challenge.

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just so glad that our 17 yr old senior has been committed since 14 and we have not had to deal with this nonsense

simple advice: if the opportunity presents itself; take it and make changes later if indicated.

Him not having to play with undue pressure to get a commitment which is so prevalent with the kids these days was a blessing

Glad that ur son had a chance to kick back and cruise with no pressure for the past 3 years. Is his college coach OK with that? Do you expect that he will see the field in college?

If anything there really is more pressure once a kid commits to a top program. College coaches expect their recruits to continue to develop for 3 more years of high school / summer play.

did not mean to imply that he "kicked back"...on the contrary; he worked even harder to prove that he deserved that spot. He had an academic incentive to achieve as well by the coach. there was no kicking back. He played fall, winter spring and summer ball since he committed. He def subscribes to the "the only easy day was yesterday" mentality and loves the challenge.

IMHO - HS players regardless of ability or college commitments all face a lot of pressure (lacrosse, Academics, Girls, Social life) but without a doubt the recruiting process is the most difficult to deal with for a few reasons including having to do it in such a public environment (Ty are you listening), fear of missing out, following your peers and competition signing. Once a child commits to a college for lacrosse only one of those pressures has been eliminated but it seems like 90% of the anxiety has been lifted.

I would go out on a limb and say that 99.9% of kids that are good enough to commit to D1 lacrosse program in their freshman or sophomore year are driven athletes and most will step up their training and not coast at all, but now instead of going to recruiting camps and prospect days they are going to the gym and the wall and probably spending as much time on SAT prep than lacrosse. The uncommitted but talented player has to also do all those things AND continue with prospect camps, college visits as well as phone calls and meetings with club and HS coaches and practically every car ride and meal with his parents being dominated by "what College" conversation.

Congratulations to all the early commits, get that score up on the SAT and get more academic money and good luck to those still looking, I am rooting for all of you (well maybe not that kid that slashed my kid at pridefest)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This age discussion regarding high school teams seems out of place considering that high school teams cover four, if not five, years of boys. The debate is applicable for travel teams, where there is at least a tacit attempt to have like-aged boys play against each other. But, high school? Welcome to the real world!

Only if your talking varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

keep going please

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

keep going please

meaning what are the rest of the rankings

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Won't be that interesting at the top. S East will win it all, they are absolutely loaded. They also were able to fill the graduation holes with top notch seniors. WM got lucky last year, and lost some good players, doubt they will even make it to the Counties

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Won't be that interesting at the top. S East will win it all, they are absolutely loaded. They also were able to fill the graduation holes with top notch seniors. WM got lucky last year, and lost some good players, doubt they will even make it to the Counties

SE has been loaded for how long now, but lets see. Hats off to them for being this good for this long. Unfortunately, with this crowd anything short of states is disappointing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Do you have seedings for Div 2? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Won't be that interesting at the top. S East will win it all, they are absolutely loaded. They also were able to fill the graduation holes with top notch seniors. WM got lucky last year, and lost some good players, doubt they will even make it to the Counties

SE has been loaded for how long now, but lets see. Hats off to them for being this good for this long. Unfortunately, with this crowd anything short of states is disappointing.

True, and this will be their last chance for a while, think they have the experience to get he job done this time, we'll see!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Don't See West Islip doing anything. The past four years have been ugly. West Islip had a great run when they had great players. WI has not been able to win without the studs. Smithtown East has some returning talent and should make their way to the county finals. WM is always in the mix. Not sure who will be fighting it out for the 3rd and 4th spotmaybe WI or ??. Again, two or three team league.

Toss up between Smithtown East and Ward Melville for county championship but would love to see someone else make a run.

Now lets get back to football.

Going to be tough for Bay Shore this yr after losing attackman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Going to be tough for Bay Shore this yr after losing attackman.

Id say different as much as Id say tough. Somehow they always get the next man up. Last two years lost 1st round of playoff's by 1 goal. Still not top 5 but could be some surprises a tier below.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Don't See West Islip doing anything. The past four years have been ugly. West Islip had a great run when they had great players. WI has not been able to win without the studs. Smithtown East has some returning talent and should make their way to the county finals. WM is always in the mix. Not sure who will be fighting it out for the 3rd and 4th spotmaybe WI or ??. Again, two or three team league.

Toss up between Smithtown East and Ward Melville for county championship but would love to see someone else make a run.

Now lets get back to football.

Don't get your ugly comment for Wi?
'13 ugly
'14 Wouldnt call Ugly
'15 So-So
'16 Would not call this year ugly by any stretch of the imagination, One game Whitman! Could have easily been a 2 loss instead of In your words 3 loss Ugly Season?

That's as bad as me or anyone saying anything short of States for Se is a waste.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Don't See West Islip doing anything. The past four years have been ugly. West Islip had a great run when they had great players. WI has not been able to win without the studs. Smithtown East has some returning talent and should make their way to the county finals. WM is always in the mix. Not sure who will be fighting it out for the 3rd and 4th spotmaybe WI or ??. Again, two or three team league.

Toss up between Smithtown East and Ward Melville for county championship but would love to see someone else make a run.

Now lets get back to football.

Don't get your ugly comment for Wi?
'13 ugly
'14 Wouldnt call Ugly
'15 So-So
'16 Would not call this year ugly by any stretch of the imagination, One game Whitman! Could have easily been a 2 loss instead of In your words 3 loss Ugly Season?

That's as bad as me or anyone saying anything short of States for Se is a waste.

13: 12 - 6 blown out in playoffs by Smithtown E 12 - 4
14: 13 - 7 blown out in playoffs by Smithtown E 15 - 7
15: 11 - 7 blown out in playoffs by Smithtown E 17 - 5
16: 14 - 3 good season but playoff disaster. lost to WW.

Bad loss to a weak Walt Whitman team in the playoffs turns good season ugly.

Only morons poke fun at Smithtown E for not winning the state championship.

History has proven that this is a two or three team league. Some years maybe four but that is about it. The proof is in the history. How many different programs have won the county championship over the past 40 years?

West Islip had a great run but they have been off and it is doubtful that they will make the finals in 2017. Maybe final four.

SE vs Syo in the LIC in 2017.

Only morons poke fun at Smithtown East for not winning the state championship ?

Why because it hurts the parent's feelings ? They have a lot of talent, but the same amount of LIC and state titles in lax as Copaigue. Sorry, but don't tell me there is not huge pressure on those kids to not only get off the island, but to finally win a state title. All those D-1 commits and Ivan Drago like training in the.Turtledome should have produced a dynasty. Try a little humility, ask your neighbors to the West for help. They had to learn by experience too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SE vs Syo in the LIC in 2017.

WM vs. Farmingdale

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SE vs Syo in the LIC in 2017.

WM vs. Farmingdale

Farmingdale is always a tough out but losing (IMHO) the best goalie on the island last year and one [lacrosse] of a tough attackman I cannot see them getting past both SYO and Mass back to back in the same week in May.

I guess you haven't been following lacrosse very well lots of talent are in WI even the younger ones coming up..
several commits already to Penn State, Yale , Etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Don't See West Islip doing anything. The past four years have been ugly. West Islip had a great run when they had great players. WI has not been able to win without the studs. Smithtown East has some returning talent and should make their way to the county finals. WM is always in the mix. Not sure who will be fighting it out for the 3rd and 4th spotmaybe WI or ??. Again, two or three team league.

Toss up between Smithtown East and Ward Melville for county championship but would love to see someone else make a run.

Now lets get back to football.

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SE vs Syo in the LIC in 2017.

WM vs. Farmingdale

Farmingdale is always a tough out but losing (IMHO) the best goalie on the island last year and one [lacrosse] of a tough attackman I cannot see them getting past both SYO and Mass back to back in the same week in May.

the last two weeks on Li are the toughest for both sections. wish they would throw a different section or two in before 8 and 11 meet up.

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Syosset will be a shell of the team they've been the past few, opens doors for many others to shine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Syosset will be a shell of the team they've been the past few, opens doors for many others to shine

Let me fix your typos and grammatical errors.....

Syosset will be a [lacrosse] of A team LIKE they've been the past few YEARS, opening doors for many SYOSSET KIDS to shine!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Syosset will be a shell of the team they've been the past few, opens doors for many others to shine

Let me fix your typos and grammatical errors.....

Syosset will be a [lacrosse] of A team LIKE they've been the past few YEARS, opening doors for many SYOSSET KIDS to shine!

or somewhere in between - good talent and depth - no superstars and a few question marks at key positions but should be there at Hofstra

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Syosset will be a shell of the team they've been the past few, opens doors for many others to shine

Let me fix your typos and grammatical errors.....

Syosset will be a [lacrosse] of A team LIKE they've been the past few YEARS, opening doors for many SYOSSET KIDS to shine!

Sorry, all the game changers graduated. Nassau is now up for grabs for whoever wants it, being Pequa and Syosset are done for a bit. you'll see!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Oh, you're one of those, only championships matter. What a jack [lacrosse].

Any truth to Sachem combining North and East into 1 ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Do you not get it?

It is not a deep league and it is not "on any given day". Over the past 40 years (not 31 years) there have been a lot of "days" and it is almost always the same teams winning.

Ward Melville and on many of the days for a nine year stretch West Islip were at the top of the heap. However, the past four years have not been kind to West Islip.

Smithtown East and West have made some noise. Northport has been competitive from time to time,

Connetquot has put out some great players and has been competitive here and there.

The Sachems have fought hard but rarely have enough depth to make it to the finals.

We are talking about 40 plus years of data. This is not opinion.

Do you really think HHH East or West are going to win the counties??

How about Commack??

Maybe Riverhead or Bay Shore will surprise us.

No. In the end it will come down to Ward Melville, Smithtown East and two teams to be determined later.

There are not five or six or seven teams that can win the county championship.

As far as WI goes, yes, three of the past four years have been ugly. and last year the playoff loss to WW turned a good season into an ugly season. Thats four ugly seasons in a row.

2013 they lost 6 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2014 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2015 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 12 goals.

Sorry, but that is ugly. in this league 6 or 7 losses is ugly.

2016 they did well regular season but at the end of the day the lost to a very average Walt Whitman Team.

WW only managed to score 2 goals against WM. Sorry, not a very good team.

The loss to WW was ugly. The past four years have been ugly.

I would expect West Islip to compete for the three. four or five spot this year but that is not saying much. Top two in this league is impressive, anything else not so much. Especially if blown out in playoff game.

History, performance and results are what matter. Not opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Oh, you're one of those, only championships matter. What a jack [lacrosse].

No, not one of those. Just pointing out that the league is not up for grabs. It is not five or six teams deep. There are one or two teams every year that have a reasonable chance at winning. Some years there are three or four (never five or six). Look at the actual results not some parents opinion at the beginning of the season.

Anything on div 2 and 3 seeding ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the seeding meetings take place ? Anyone for the Suffolk divisions ?

WM=1
SE=2

3-SW
4- WI
5- Commack
6- Huntington
7- Northport
8- Hills East
9- Connetquot
10- Sachem N.
11- Sachem E.
12- Bay Shore
13- Walt Whitman
14- Riverhead
15- Lindenhurst
16- Middle Country
17- William Floyd
18- North Babylon
19- Longwood
20- Pat-Medford
21- Brentwood
22- Copaigue

W.Babylon, Bellport, Deer Park and Hills West go down to D2. Great for Hills West as SWR and Sayville are now in D3.

Wasnt W. Babylon Bellport and Deer Park in D2 last year? Guess Babylon's reign is over.

1-4 does it matter who is where all battle for top 4. I like WI & WM, WI especially after this football season. I know lax isnt FB but SW ouch. No clue how Se will come out.
5-9 Commack and Huntington i dont get why they are on top of that teir
10-15 always in those spots maybe Whitman and riverhead move up and Sachems move down. Bayshore a year older but so is everyone else.

could be interesting

Won't be that interesting at the top. S East will win it all, they are absolutely loaded. They also were able to fill the graduation holes with top notch seniors. WM got lucky last year, and lost some good players, doubt they will even make it to the Counties

SE has been loaded for how long now, but lets see. Hats off to them for being this good for this long. Unfortunately, with this crowd anything short of states is disappointing.

Here we go again. It's only October and we have to hear the SE parents telling everybody how awesome they are. So awesome with the a majority of same players returning when they didn't even make county finals last year. Oh yeh, they also lost during the regular season. Why don't you learn from the past and let the season play out. Remember what happened to SW years ago when they were "loaded" didn't even make it past first round of playoffs.

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Touched a nerve? SE will be a dominate force again this year, as they have for a time now. Only in your words a "moron" would say its sweet when a team looses. All I'm saying is they have the talent, what happens next is up to them and luck certainly plays a role! You never know who is out there practicing to be a game changer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa in a rebuilding year, 3 top scorers graduated.

Syosset will be a shell of the team they've been the past few, opens doors for many others to shine

Let me fix your typos and grammatical errors.....

Syosset will be a [lacrosse] of A team LIKE they've been the past few YEARS, opening doors for many SYOSSET KIDS to shine!

Sorry, all the game changers graduated. Nassau is now up for grabs for whoever wants it, being Pequa and Syosset are done for a bit. you'll see!

Thanks for the insight Mr. Port Washington Dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Do you not get it?

It is not a deep league and it is not "on any given day". Over the past 40 years (not 31 years) there have been a lot of "days" and it is almost always the same teams winning.

Ward Melville and on many of the days for a nine year stretch West Islip were at the top of the heap. However, the past four years have not been kind to West Islip.

Smithtown East and West have made some noise. Northport has been competitive from time to time,

Connetquot has put out some great players and has been competitive here and there.

The Sachems have fought hard but rarely have enough depth to make it to the finals.

We are talking about 40 plus years of data. This is not opinion.

Do you really think HHH East or West are going to win the counties??

How about Commack??

Maybe Riverhead or Bay Shore will surprise us.

No. In the end it will come down to Ward Melville, Smithtown East and two teams to be determined later.

There are not five or six or seven teams that can win the county championship.

As far as WI goes, yes, three of the past four years have been ugly. and last year the playoff loss to WW turned a good season into an ugly season. Thats four ugly seasons in a row.

2013 they lost 6 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2014 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2015 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 12 goals.

Sorry, but that is ugly. in this league 6 or 7 losses is ugly.

2016 they did well regular season but at the end of the day the lost to a very average Walt Whitman Team.

WW only managed to score 2 goals against WM. Sorry, not a very good team.

The loss to WW was ugly. The past four years have been ugly.

I would expect West Islip to compete for the three. four or five spot this year but that is not saying much. Top two in this league is impressive, anything else not so much. Especially if blown out in playoff game.

History, performance and results are what matter. Not opinion.

WI has superior coaching which is the only reason they are anywhere near relevant. WM and SE have superior talent and depth. Its a 2 horse race, WM and SE, its that simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Do you not get it?

It is not a deep league and it is not "on any given day". Over the past 40 years (not 31 years) there have been a lot of "days" and it is almost always the same teams winning.

Ward Melville and on many of the days for a nine year stretch West Islip were at the top of the heap. However, the past four years have not been kind to West Islip.

Smithtown East and West have made some noise. Northport has been competitive from time to time,

Connetquot has put out some great players and has been competitive here and there.

The Sachems have fought hard but rarely have enough depth to make it to the finals.

We are talking about 40 plus years of data. This is not opinion.

Do you really think HHH East or West are going to win the counties??

How about Commack??

Maybe Riverhead or Bay Shore will surprise us.

No. In the end it will come down to Ward Melville, Smithtown East and two teams to be determined later.

There are not five or six or seven teams that can win the county championship.

As far as WI goes, yes, three of the past four years have been ugly. and last year the playoff loss to WW turned a good season into an ugly season. Thats four ugly seasons in a row.

2013 they lost 6 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2014 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 8 goals.
2015 they lost 7 games and were blown out in the playoffs by 12 goals.

Sorry, but that is ugly. in this league 6 or 7 losses is ugly.

2016 they did well regular season but at the end of the day the lost to a very average Walt Whitman Team.

WW only managed to score 2 goals against WM. Sorry, not a very good team.

The loss to WW was ugly. The past four years have been ugly.

I would expect West Islip to compete for the three. four or five spot this year but that is not saying much. Top two in this league is impressive, anything else not so much. Especially if blown out in playoff game.

History, performance and results are what matter. Not opinion.

WI has superior coaching which is the only reason they are anywhere near relevant. WM and SE have superior talent and depth. Its a 2 horse race, WM and SE, its that simple.

So I guess because SE hasn't advanced to upstate yet with all that talent, it is because the coaching sucks. Maybe. Well, look at it this way, if you get off the island this year, You won't have to face Victor, who moved to Class B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Touched a nerve? SE will be a dominate force again this year, as they have for a time now. Only in your words a "moron" would say its sweet when a team looses. All I'm saying is they have the talent, what happens next is up to them and luck certainly plays a role! You never know who is out there practicing to be a game changer!

What do mean "again?" No domination last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Touched a nerve? SE will be a dominate force again this year, as they have for a time now. Only in your words a "moron" would say its sweet when a team looses. All I'm saying is they have the talent, what happens next is up to them and luck certainly plays a role! You never know who is out there practicing to be a game changer!

What do mean "again?" No domination last year.

Haha that's funny! Lost 3 games, all by a goal, two OT, I'd say that's dominate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Oh, you're one of those, only championships matter. What a jack [lacrosse].

No, not one of those. Just pointing out that the league is not up for grabs. It is not five or six teams deep. There are one or two teams every year that have a reasonable chance at winning. Some years there are three or four (never five or six). Look at the actual results not some parents opinion at the beginning of the season.

Yes each year only one team comes out. They advance from a game with 2 teams. That doesn't make it a two team league. The year has many ups and downs and a bad playoff game doesn't make it a two team league. Good luck to all teams. Not sure there will be a clear 1 until the end of the season.

Don't forget WI has won the states 7 times at least

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget WI has won the states 7 times at least

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO
Each year there are 4 and a few more (2). How do you forget about '15 & '13 Nport. and Quot the past 2 seasons. On top of SE SW WM WI

As far as WI they have got to be in the conversation. there are a top 4 team and on any given day has the tools (horses and coaches) to beat any of the top 3. Your outline of the Se loses and your Definition of a Weak Whitman team (especially LY) leaves much to be desired.

Losing to Se the last few years does not make an ugly season. An ugly game maybe, but cant define the season by a game. And the Whitman game, a one goal loss in the playoffs, #!&&@ please - Stop!

It very well may be your opinion but it is not fact.

In the past 31 years here are the programs and how many county championships they have won during that time period. Since 1986:

Ward Melville - 15 County Championships
West Islip - 9 County Championships
Smithtown E - 2 County Championships
Northport - 2 County Championships

Sachem (when combined) - 2 County Championships
Smithtown (when combined) - 1 County Championship

Not ver deep.

WI only has 5 state titles, just seems like 7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Touched a nerve? SE will be a dominate force again this year, as they have for a time now. Only in your words a "moron" would say its sweet when a team looses. All I'm saying is they have the talent, what happens next is up to them and luck certainly plays a role! You never know who is out there practicing to be a game changer!

What do mean "again?" No domination last year.

Haha that's funny! Lost 3 games, all by a goal, two OT, I'd say that's dominate.

Dominate; v. having a commanding influence on. Translation for the SE parent...17 games, lost 3 games, won by only 1 goal in 3 more games, won by only 2 goals in another 2 games. So that is 8 games in total that you can not state they were dominate....hmmm will give you one stat- dominate in 47% of the season based on the other games as shown in record last year. Again, 1 and 2 goal games (and we all know losses) are not defined as dominate. keep reaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And how did your team do last year? Oh yea, you blew it when it counted. Nobody better than SE this year, we'll see if they can finish the job this time

Guess again, moron! On second thought, keep running your mouth because it is so much sweeter when they do lose. You put so much pressure on these young boys, learn from the past, stay quiet and enjoy the victory if it comes....but remember, it is a long way away.

Touched a nerve? SE will be a dominate force again this year, as they have for a time now. Only in your words a "moron" would say its sweet when a team looses. All I'm saying is they have the talent, what happens next is up to them and luck certainly plays a role! You never know who is out there practicing to be a game changer!

What do mean "again?" No domination last year.

Haha that's funny! Lost 3 games, all by a goal, two OT, I'd say that's dominate.

Dominate; v. having a commanding influence on. Translation for the SE parent...17 games, lost 3 games, won by only 1 goal in 3 more games, won by only 2 goals in another 2 games. So that is 8 games in total that you can not state they were dominate....hmmm will give you one stat- dominate in 47% of the season based on the other games as shown in record last year. Again, 1 and 2 goal games (and we all know losses) are not defined as dominate. keep reaching.

Soooo....... How did your team do? And how were they more dominate? Either you're Quot, who had a good year but were deer in headlights against WM and got lucky with the win over SE, but still a win, and hats off to a tough team. Or You are WM who blew it big time at the State Championship. Embarrassing loss, you were overplayed all over and won the majority of your season games against the best competition by a goal as well. Must have been a long bus ride home. So who are you with the big mouth??? and who else would be considered dominate? When I said dominate, I was referring to the top cohort. This year it will be a short list. Dominate to me means you make it to the end, final 4.

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

Oh no a teaser. Beware, be very aware.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

I think Comsewogue, Sayville, BBP and ESM could have a say in how exciting it is. That along with what could be deemed as "Exciting" roster moves.

Just like SWR football was supposed to be this fall also, right? I guess that is why they play the games...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

I think Comsewogue, Sayville, BBP and ESM could have a say in how exciting it is. That along with what could be deemed as "Exciting" roster moves.

Word is they are moving down to C Division. Which is funny because on any given day they could compete with most A Division teams. That being said, Cold Spring Harbor may have very difficult time getting off LI the next few years...

Li C final wood be more fun to watch for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

I think Comsewogue, Sayville, BBP and ESM could have a say in how exciting it is. That along with what could be deemed as "Exciting" roster moves.

Word is they are moving down to C Division. Which is funny because on any given day they could compete with most A Division teams. That being said, Cold Spring Harbor may have very difficult time getting off LI the next few years...

Why is it funny? It's based on enrollment. And cold Spring Harbor will be just fine!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

I think Comsewogue, Sayville, BBP and ESM could have a say in how exciting it is. That along with what could be deemed as "Exciting" roster moves.

Word is they are moving down to C Division. Which is funny because on any given day they could compete with most A Division teams. That being said, Cold Spring Harbor may have very difficult time getting off LI the next few years...

Why is it funny? It's based on enrollment. And cold Spring Harbor will be just fine!!

Agree. CSH will be fine this year. Big drop off for the next few years after seniors graduate. They had a good run the last few years.

All true on CSH front.

'17-very strong
'18-Good
'19-weak
'20-very strong
'21-on second thought...they are in jr. high...will leave this be...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The man has a point SE shut up and win.

Plan on it!

The most exciting team in Suffolk in 2017 will be SWR.

I think Comsewogue, Sayville, BBP and ESM could have a say in how exciting it is. That along with what could be deemed as "Exciting" roster moves.

Word is they are moving down to C Division. Which is funny because on any given day they could compete with most A Division teams. That being said, Cold Spring Harbor may have very difficult time getting off LI the next few years...

Why is it funny? It's based on enrollment. And cold Spring Harbor will be just fine!!

Some may think it is funny, maybe ironic is better, since the coach openly promoted holding back and playing down.

You were told by the CSH coach to hold back your son? WOW, that is a huge accusation. Did you bring this to the AD? Better yet bring it to the BOE, I am shocked that the HC of the CSH lacrosse team told you to hold back your son. You MUST report this immediately!

Believe none of what you hear. Especially on this site.

That was kind of sarcastic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You were told by the CSH coach to hold back your son? WOW, that is a huge accusation. Did you bring this to the AD? Better yet bring it to the BOE, I am shocked that the HC of the CSH lacrosse team told you to hold back your son. You MUST report this immediately!

As posted many a time on here, reading comprehension is not a strong suit to many. Or someone is trying to divert from the culprit. To be clear its not the CSH coach, he just needs to keep his hands to himself. The coach that said it, said it, in a travel team format. So no AD involvement, not yet at least, but it is coming for sure eh.

The post was about CSH. The reply was that the coach told the parents to hold back the kids. So maybe writing is not the strong point. Because it was written as if the CSH coach said it, which I believe to be complete nonsense. Or a LIE so there is no confusion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You were told by the CSH coach to hold back your son? WOW, that is a huge accusation. Did you bring this to the AD? Better yet bring it to the BOE, I am shocked that the HC of the CSH lacrosse team told you to hold back your son. You MUST report this immediately!

As posted many a time on here, reading comprehension is not a strong suit to many. Or someone is trying to divert from the culprit. To be clear its not the CSH coach, he just needs to keep his hands to himself. The coach that said it, said it, in a travel team format. So no AD involvement, not yet at least, but it is coming for sure eh.

The coaches at St. Anthony's and Chaminade who also own a million dollar travel lacrosse program admittedly and routinely instruct 14 -16 year olds that they should "hold back". They then get another year of Express "tuition" from them. Now an unfounded implication that a public school coach suggested one player should do to that causes this comical indignation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post was about CSH. The reply was that the coach told the parents to hold back the kids. So maybe writing is not the strong point. Because it was written as if the CSH coach said it, which I believe to be complete nonsense. Or a LIE so there is no confusion.

Here is how I read it going back to the beginning.

Word is they are moving to C (they SWR) which is funny because they (SWR) could compete in A. That being said (new subject) CSH could have a tough time getting the island (due presumably to SWR now in c)

Why is that funny (SWR moving to C). Based on enrollment. And (new subject) CSH will be fine.

SWR coach openly recommended to his travel families they think about holding their kids back. Then potentially led by example.

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

I was told the same thing regarding my older son, he is committed to a top 20 program on age. Regardless, don't screw a kid up by holding him back for lacrosse. Take a minute to consider if you are doing it for him or you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

" . . . repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year . . ." Friends is also a private - ?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

" . . . repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year . . ." Friends is also a private - ?????

think they were saying 2 things...go to Friends for a year and complain that the education was no good. How is the education at Friends?

or just remain in a private and just drop a grade. Not sure that works in the Catholics. Or else why not PG at the Catholics. Pay the tuition which is less than a private or college tuition and have at it.

confusing. when do you know if you want to PG Jr year. What are the better school to PG at. Are there any on LI?

lu hi

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

" . . . repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year . . ." Friends is also a private - ?????

It was meant to show two options that were presented by the coach/owner (the 2nd is what he and another family 'figured out'):

1. If you are already private and staying private...just repeat, not a big deal.

2. Or if the family is currently public and wish to stay in public for HS...use Friends academy for one year in a middle school grade...go back to public school district and complain the education at Friends was not good and demand you want your child to re-renter in the same grad year that was just completed. Bad curriculum because of inexperienced low-paid teachers, for example...create believable reasons. Happens all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I read about the Chaminade and St A's coach telling kids/parents to hold back their kids? Looking all over the net and can't find it. Little help please. Thanks

You can read it right here - the St Ant JV coach & Express owner spoke with me and told me the loopholes to hold my son back.

Whether it be repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year, complain about education level, then go back public. He continued to tell me to bring my son to the practice of a younger grad year to see how much he'd dominate.

I told him my son was an A++ student and there is no need. He said it didn't matter.

" . . . repeating at private if staying private, or using Friends Academy for one year . . ." Friends is also a private - ?????

It was meant to show two options that were presented by the coach/owner (the 2nd is what he and another family 'figured out'):

1. If you are already private and staying private...just repeat, not a big deal.

2. Or if the family is currently public and wish to stay in public for HS...use Friends academy for one year in a middle school grade...go back to public school district and complain the education at Friends was not good and demand you want your child to re-renter in the same grad year that was just completed. Bad curriculum because of inexperienced low-paid teachers, for example...create believable reasons. Happens all the time.

Or just home school your kid. If you really want to be a holdback so bad, just play down, see how it goes, no rule against that either. Then if you get recuited for a certain grad class, take a year off before college. Too bad none of this will make your kid a better player. All of this is incredibly silly!

So at St. A's you can just elect to repeat a grade? And parents pay for this kind of education? You have coaches trying to get the kids to repeat a year of HS at 9K per, all for a sport with minimal scholarship money, and the parent who was told this has no intention of reporting it to the administration? Doesn't say much about the education, coaches or parents at St. Anthony's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So at St. A's you can just elect to repeat a grade? And parents pay for this kind of education? You have coaches trying to get the kids to repeat a year of HS at 9K per, all for a sport with minimal scholarship money, and the parent who was told this has no intention of reporting it to the administration? Doesn't say much about the education, coaches or parents at St. Anthony's.

dont think that works in St. A's or Chammy or any other catholic school on LI, maybe Luhi.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coaches at St. Anthony's and Chaminade who also own a million dollar travel lacrosse program admittedly and routinely instruct 14 -16 year olds that they should "hold back". They then get another year of Express "tuition" from them. Now an unfounded implication that a public school coach suggested one player should do to that causes this comical indignation.

I have been involved in this conversation, and the options that were discussed were about how best to market a 14 year old to College recruiters. Anybody that would take advise from ANY club coach about anything other than lacrosse is insane, but if lacrosse is that important to you and you feel that lacrosse is a gateway to a great education than why not listen to what they have to say, you don't have to do it, just here your options. No different than parenting advise, take it all in and than do what you think is best. We never considered holding back for educational and social reasons so it was never even discussed but that doesn't mean it is not right for some kids and I have no problem with a club coach explaining it.

You can not repeat a grade at St. A's for the heck of it, period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can not repeat a grade at St. A's for the heck of it, period.

They are talking about doing it in 8th grade or earlier, before entry into St. A's or Chaminade.

Look back a couple of posts. One poster says St. A's coaches are instructing "14-16 yr olds" to hold back, 14-16 yr olds are grades 9-11. I know the whole repeat 8th grade thing, but that's not what one of the previous posters is alluding to.

A poster 2 pages back mentioned that SWR may be moving down to the "C" division. If you check the Section XI website homepage it shows 'placements' for the 2016-17 boys lacrosse season that were approved on 10/13/16. There appears to be no more A/B/C divisions, just Div 1 and 2. All of the "C" teams have been moved up into Div 2. Anyone know if this is in fact the case? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can not repeat a grade at St. A's for the heck of it, period.

They are talking about doing it in 8th grade or earlier, before entry into St. A's or Chaminade.

Like the Crush kids doing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A poster 2 pages back mentioned that SWR may be moving down to the "C" division. If you check the Section XI website homepage it shows 'placements' for the 2016-17 boys lacrosse season that were approved on 10/13/16. There appears to be no more A/B/C divisions, just Div 1 and 2. All of the "C" teams have been moved up into Div 2. Anyone know if this is in fact the case? Thanks in advance.

Playoff will now have an A B C and D county champ. For the regular season A is in Division 1 and BCD are in Division 2. After year is over teams split to there respective divisions.

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

You are dead WRONG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

Wow! Based on earlier posts I thought they were going to run the table with their dominant rising stars...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

You are dead WRONG

Yes, they had to leave and hit up the vineyard vines outlet before closing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Do not believe they won a game. And got crushed on a couple. Not sure if they had a complete team but should not even be considered in the same universe as dominant. Far from it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Do not believe they won a game. And got crushed on a couple. Not sure if they had a complete team but should not even be considered in the same universe as dominant. Far from it.

You are all nuts. My son plays for Port. We had a roster of about 17 of 30 and played all 3 games. The boys did a great job despite the numbers and early 2017 season. Why need for hate and vineyard vines comments?! Hope you all enjoyed the rest of your Sunday . There's really no need to cause animosity

Port Washingtons Varsity went 2-1

JV went 1-2, and forefitted the 4th game.

Both teams had 14-18 players, due to many of their players playing with their clubs and attending various prospect days.

Regardless, it's November 6th.

it was there jv team that left,after their opponent waited two hours to play them. cheesy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

You are dead WRONG

Yes, they had to leave and hit up the vineyard vines outlet before closing time.

Don't confuse Port with Manhasset. Go open another Schlitz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

it was there jv team that left,after their opponent waited two hours to play them. cheesy

I'm sure the KIDS really wanted to play the game? Wake up, the kid care way less about another fall ball game than you can possibly even imagine...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

You are dead WRONG

Yes, they had to leave and hit up the vineyard vines outlet before closing time.

Don't confuse Port with Manhasset. Go open another Schlitz

I'm not. Manhasset is a quality program and has been for decades. Go do another line... That is the type of line drills PW is known for..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was Port Washington as dominant as purported to be today at Hofstra?

Pt. Washington forfeited their third game. Apparently they were not having a good day, so they chose to leave after their second game.

You are dead WRONG

Yes, they had to leave and hit up the vineyard vines outlet before closing time.

Don't confuse Port with Manhasset. Go open another Schlitz

I'm not. Manhasset is a quality program and has been for decades. Go do another line... That is the type of line drills PW is known for..

You started with the rude comments and what you just said is way way way out of line. You're really an idiot

I saw a couple of Port kids dressed and ready to go for their 3PM game... not sure who pulled them, i dont blame the kids. and it was their JV squad that forfeited. S*** happens just would have been nice to have a heads up earlier.

I have a question about allocation of the 12.6 scholarship. lets use a school like Fairfield or Villanova. ... if the recruiting class is comprised of say 10 recruits / commits. how much would each one expect to receive ball park? also, upon commitment is it a 4 yr commitment moneywise locked in for the player and school or is it renewable each year?

what the kids on the other side didn't want to do was wait two hours on a day that was getting colder by the minute,just because some wimpy kids from port had enough.kids did want to play their third game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question about allocation of the 12.6 scholarship. lets use a school like Fairfield or Villanova. ... if the recruiting class is comprised of say 10 recruits / commits. how much would each one expect to receive ball park? also, upon commitment is it a 4 yr commitment moneywise locked in for the player and school or is it renewable each year?

Athletic scholarships are renewed year to year. If your son or daughter is getting academic money, that is usually based on maintaining a certain gpa year to year. A coach can allocate his scholarships as he sees fit. He may offer more to a player who he has a positional need for or a stud that is highly recruited. Some kids may get nothing and they are happy with a roster spot because their parents may not need financial assistance. There are many different scenerios. Also, remember not all programs are fully funded so they don't have the full 12.6. There are many variables that determine how the coach handles his scholarship money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question about allocation of the 12.6 scholarship. lets use a school like Fairfield or Villanova. ... if the recruiting class is comprised of say 10 recruits / commits. how much would each one expect to receive ball park? also, upon commitment is it a 4 yr commitment moneywise locked in for the player and school or is it renewable each year?

The 12.6 is spread across the entire roster, not that recruiting year. The cash is allocated at the discretion of the head coach.

thank you. I was aware that the 12.6 was spread out , sorry I wasn't clear.
trying to discern the facts from b.s. in regard to the "full ride" nonsense. appreciate the clarity of both of you guys posts

What Outlaws team was at Hofsra yesterday?

Is Gold the A or B team ?

if kid is really not playing after 1 or 2 years, does the money get reduced or eliminated? that's assuming they aren't cut.

Gold is the B, Select is the A

Vineyard vine visors are fashionable must have lacrosse apparrell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vineyard vine visors are fashionable must have lacrosse apparrell.

Vineyard Vine is awesome..love their clothes...check out their outlet store at The Arches in Deer Park

That's an outlet store. Last years styles. Cmon , Americana Manhasset , we can tell the imposters and the cheap outlet shoppers

Vineyard is in Americana?

How is all this Vineyard Vines talk helping us make America Great again?

It's making us all preppies and we all have the same name, "Biff"!!

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

It's making us all preppies and we all have the same name, "Biff"!!

What's wrong with preppies ??? And it's Brett's not Bifs !!

Great idea... Spend $25k at Friends... $40k at at Anthony's , plus $40k pg at prep school for the slim chance of 1/4 max athletic scholarship of $60k tuition...

PLEASE do not mention St. Anthony's in thesame breath or sentence as Friends Academy. There are 25 LI public schools better than St.A's...not talking football here...

agree. I can see using Friends as a stepping stone into Chaminade ( the Harvard of high schools on L.I.) but no way St. Ants

Originally Posted by Anonymous

agree. I can see using Friends as a stepping stone into Chaminade ( the Harvard of high schools on L.I.) but no way St. Ants

Harvard of HSs???? Several public schools are much higher ranked nationally. 1st to come to mind would be Jericho. Makes Caminade look like Romper Room

Congratulations to all the seniors signing their NLIs, makes arguing about whose team is better seem so petty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

agree. I can see using Friends as a stepping stone into Chaminade ( the Harvard of high schools on L.I.) but no way St. Ants

Harvard of HSs???? Several public schools are much higher ranked nationally. 1st to come to mind would be Jericho. Makes Caminade look like Romper Room

Manhasset, South Side and Great Neck also on the list of the best, Chaminade nowhere to be found. Keep thinking you are great, data suggests otherwise. Glad to see LI publics leave the privates in the dust

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PLEASE do not mention St. Anthony's in thesame breath or sentence as Friends Academy. There are 25 LI public schools better than St.A's...not talking football here...

Idiot , the poster was using Friends as an example of a school to reclass before the kid goes to St Ants. Calm your t*tties

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PLEASE do not mention St. Anthony's in thesame breath or sentence as Friends Academy. There are 25 LI public schools better than St.A's...not talking football here...

Idiot , the poster was using Friends as an example of a school to reclass before the kid goes to St Ants. Calm your t*tties

Poster claimed Chaminade is the Harvard of LI HSs, I siimply referred to data that suggests it is far from that. Public education on LI rules! Also add CHS to the list. So many better public HSs options on LI than Cham and St. A can't even be brought into the discussion of best HSs at alll

The original poster said how much people spend to try and get a small lacrosse scholarship how are u talking about what HS is better . Obsessed

PLEASE, do not mention St. Anthony's OR Chaminade in the same breath or sentence as Friends Academy if the discussion is centered on academics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PLEASE, do not mention St. Anthony's OR Chaminade in the same breath or sentence as Friends Academy if the discussion is centered on academics.

Again , Earth to Idiot , nobody is comparing them. They were using an example of a school where it would be able to reclass before HS if opted

Why are the upstate High Schools ranked higher than us in Class A if all of our travel teams are A, compared to upstate where typically their travel teams don't preform as well as Long Island's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great idea... Spend $25k at Friends... $40k at at Anthony's , plus $40k pg at prep school for the slim chance of 1/4 max athletic scholarship of $60k tuition...

repeating a grade and or PG'ing to make yourself more athletically desirable to an elite university, that you might not have been able to be admitted without going that route is a great option for some kids (not mine). I would never second guess a family that goes this way and ends up with an Ivy degree. I would venture to guess that those decision have little to do with athletic scholarship since it usually leads to an Ivy (no Athletic) or a Patriot league (few athletic)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the upstate High Schools ranked higher than us in Class A if all of our travel teams are A, compared to upstate where typically their travel teams don't preform as well as Long Island's?

They play lax year round upstate and have superior indoor box, clinics, etc. non money grab teams, etc. top kids come out better prepared by high school.

Victor moved to Class B, so everyone is playing for second.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the upstate High Schools ranked higher than us in Class A if all of our travel teams are A, compared to upstate where typically their travel teams don't preform as well as Long Island's?

They play lax year round upstate and have superior indoor box, clinics, etc. non money grab teams, etc. top kids come out better prepared by high school.

I wonder if it isn't that Long Island Parents turn their kids off of lax by being so overbearing by HS.

Actually now that I think about it... what makes sense is that the travel teams have way more talent to grab from and pool it together to make monster travel teams. However, typically you have to play HS in the district you are in which dilutes the "elite lacrosse club team".

Victor has a travel team which is also their HS team. If LI just grew the house teams to have them incorporate travel then we can compete on the Upstate NY level, is probably more accurate... but still Long Island parents are worse than getting a paper-cut in your eyeball, and I am one of them

This is Idiot. Thank you. And please, do not be tempted to defend or compare either of those two other schools to Friends. Ever. I will find you. Wise up. Go Quakers. Just you wait till we ramp up Football!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are the upstate High Schools ranked higher than us in Class A if all of our travel teams are A, compared to upstate where typically their travel teams don't preform as well as Long Island's?

They play lax year round upstate and have superior indoor box, clinics, etc. non money grab teams, etc. top kids come out better prepared by high school.

Long Island HSs are typically smaller than upstate, so yes, there is a dilution in talent available to any one school, particuallry in Nassau. The class categorization of schools in NYS is supposed to normalize this, but you are still comparing LI, a largely suburban area to one of, if not the, largest urban centers in the world, to upstate, which is largely a typical rural setting, so not sure the class thing truly normalizes the situation.

I wonder if it isn't that Long Island Parents turn their kids off of lax by being so overbearing by HS.

Actually now that I think about it... what makes sense is that the travel teams have way more talent to grab from and pool it together to make monster travel teams. However, typically you have to play HS in the district you are in which dilutes the "elite lacrosse club team".

Victor has a travel team which is also their HS team. If LI just grew the house teams to have them incorporate travel then we can compete on the Upstate NY level, is probably more accurate... but still Long Island parents are worse than getting a paper-cut in your eyeball, and I am one of them

big weekend this weekend.

Very big weekend this weekend,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend this weekend.

2 days long, just like very other weekend . . .

What makes it a very big weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What makes it a very big weekend?

Football Championships? Wait, wrong page

I don't know but its a big weekend this weekend! Trust me, the other guy said so!!

very good program - how many returning players for Victor - that provides the best insight into likeliness of another championship - Set returns a lot of talent this year in B - SWR dropped to C

Weekend before thanksgiving, always a big weekend in my house. Cleaning up, getting out the big cooking gear, alerting the fire department that i will trying to deep fry a turkey and to have their guys on standby when my deck goes up again.. See.. big weekend!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know but its a big weekend this weekend! Trust me, the other guy said so!!

Big tournament at Farmingdale for High school teams. Pray that the fields are playable with rain in the forecast

Again...good one! Enjoy the very big weekend this weekend!

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

Does anyone know if/where college coaches are listed so my son can email his schedule? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

Does anyone know if/where college coaches are listed so my son can email his schedule? Thanks.

What you do is have your son email the coaches from the schools that he is interested in and forward the game schedule and jersey number. A lot will make the effort to come by and watch if you have been in contact with them prior.

Players will be issued tournament pinneys with #'s for this event. College coaches in attendance will have the list of players and #'s. Email the coaches of the schools your son is interested in and ask if they will be in attendance and to check the roster lists they are given, but be sure to email the coaches of your son's schedule, hope this helps.

Pinnie numbers were due to roster book on nov 7. Get your pinnie number from your coach and email the colleges this info with your schedule. From past experience this event is attended by 50-75 coaches. Plenty will be there. Great event.

Unfortunately that tournament is competing with the NLF also at Farmingdale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately that tournament is competing with the NLF also at Farmingdale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

With both events being held at the same venue there will be more coaches at the Fall Classic than ever before. Go watch a 2020 game between two of the top NLF teams if you want to see a bunch of college coaches.

Great Idea having both events at the same place. There will be a ton of coaches but they will be spread thin. If you are still in the recruiting process you just have to hope the coaches are watching your game.

Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately that tournament is competing with the NLF also at Farmingdale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sunday elite event, so many great high school teams. Will be great to get an early look. Some great match ups. This used to be called the Rotanz event. Many college coaches will be in attendance as well.

With both events being held at the same venue there will be more coaches at the Fall Classic than ever before. Go watch a 2020 game between two of the top NLF teams if you want to see a bunch of college coaches.

Great Idea having both events at the same place. There will be a ton of coaches but they will be spread thin. If you are still in the recruiting process you just have to hope the coaches are watching your game.

Good luck to all.

The player needs to email the coaches of the schools he is interested in. The coaches don't randomly pick what game they are going to watch, they go to see specific players who will be in that particular game.

yea ...great idea...go watch a 2020 game to look at coaches...

NLF Individual Showcase is Saturday tons of coaches on the list very impressive..

2019's are on Field 15 starting at 9AM

4 teams total

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yea ...great idea...go watch a 2020 game to look at coaches...

Any lines on how many coaches will be at the 2020's game... What's the over under on that?

No coach watch 9th graders trust me..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any lines on how many coaches will be at the 2020's game... What's the over under on that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No coach watch 9th graders trust me..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any lines on how many coaches will be at the 2020's game... What's the over under on that?

LOL - yeah most of the top schools class of 2020 is full

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any lines on how many coaches will be at the 2020's game... What's the over under on that?

Slow down cowboy. We will see about that.

Look up commitments and then compare to roster, see how many of the commits actually play for the same school they commit to. You may be surprised by the results.

Yale only has 5 kids picked for 2019's..maybe 1 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No coach watch 9th graders trust me..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any lines on how many coaches will be at the 2020's game... What's the over under on that?

LOL - yeah most of the top schools class of 2020 is full

Anyone know if the Islip winter league has a schedule posted ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if the Islip winter league has a schedule posted ?

Is there any information or details about this league you can post? Have a HS team looking for a winter league (Indoor or Outdoor)

Anyone advise if College coaches usually attend the Brine tryout? on L I next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if the Islip winter league has a schedule posted ?

Is there any information or details about this league you can post? Have a HS team looking for a winter league (Indoor or Outdoor)

Call the Islip Coach. All games played there.

Heard they will be doing week to week schedule to accommodate the teams needs. Teams I saw there today. Bayport , Harborfield, Sayville, Babylon, Islip and Connetquot. Not sure if there where others.

Nope

I saw East Islip and Hauppauge there as well

I didn't know Hogpog had a lax team anymore.

Anyone notice on the UA website they removed the birth dates of those that made the team? Guess they were tired of hearing how 90% of the players happened to be born in the first half of the year. Birth dates matter.

No surprise they removed the dates. The ages of some of those kids was laughable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No surprise they removed the dates. The ages of some of those kids was laughable.

Nearly every kid from MD or PA was 1 to 2 years older than what the average LI kid is in the same grade. No big deal, same ole story. Huge wake up call for these holdback kids in college.

No probably not. Show me one kid who had this huge wake up call in college. Doesn't happen except in the minds of some delusional parents on BOTC. What really happens is your son gets to college and gets smoked by same holdback prompting junior to either quit the team or leave the school for D3. Sound more realistic?

Actually doesn't sound realistic. The reclass scheme only works to get a kid committed early. My on age kid made it to D1 without gaming the system and has spent most of his middle school and high school career playing against older kids. It made him a better player and once he hit puberty it was irrelvant.

Pre-k, repeat 8th, PG year - what a sham - all for the glory of the huge pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in the MLL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No probably not. Show me one kid who had this huge wake up call in college. Doesn't happen except in the minds of some delusional parents on BOTC. What really happens is your son gets to college and gets smoked by same holdback prompting junior to either quit the team or leave the school for D3. Sound more realistic?

Is that what happened to your son? Cause the opposite happened to mine.

Nope, didn't happen to my son, he's still in HS, doing fine, playing with kids his age and older and maybe even younger, not the best, not the worst, holding his own on Varsity. We don't belly ache and cry in my house. Now we all know you and your son spend the better part of most days crying and whining about how unfair it is. See, if he was doing as exceptional as you say, you wouldn't need to post on here about the system. Keep on crying mate, looks good on you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...

Pre-k, repeat 8th, PG year - what a sham - all for the glory of the huge pot of gold at the end of the rainbow in the MLL.

The pot of gold is acceptance to an Ivy or other similar school, which actually might be worth the money/time spent. (Or it might not.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, didn't happen to my son, he's still in HS, doing fine, playing with kids his age and older and maybe even younger, not the best, not the worst, holding his own on Varsity. We don't belly ache and cry in my house. Now we all know you and your son spend the better part of most days crying and whining about how unfair it is. See, if he was doing as exceptional as you say, you wouldn't need to post on here about the system. Keep on crying mate, looks good on you!

I have another in HS, not crying cause he's committed to Ivy and on age. But keep complaining if it makes you feel good.

Tool, you're complaining, I could care less if every kid does a hold back year. Not my kid not my problem. I told you my kid is fine, adjusted plays with the varsity. You're sobbing about it. And your kids not committed to an Ivy, but nice try!

When does HS schedule come out ??

Ty Xander's says my kid is the best. I sleep well at night.

Suffolk schedule is posted on section xi website. Still not Clear on the new Divisions though, looks like 2,3 and 4 all combined for regular season.

Couldn't you schedule a few Saturday home games for the parents to watch. You had no problem scheduling the 5 worst teams. Am I the only parents that throws my hands up at this. Not one Saturday game at home!!!! Kudos to those ADs that do it. To those that don't, jacka$$ you can't retire fast enough. You know who you are, just leave already. If the team doesnt go 10-4 with your cupcake schedule you should be ashamed. The schedule is a joke.

SMH. Shoulda coulda woulda.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedule is posted on section xi website. Still not Clear on the new Divisions though, looks like 2,3 and 4 all combined for regular season.

What's with the no spectators for the St Anthony's Ward Melville scrimmage. (3/25). But I gotta say wow Patriots tight scheduling. Way to go out there and get some good competition week in and week out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn't you schedule a few Saturday home games for the parents to watch. You had no problem scheduling the 5 worst teams. Am I the only parents that throws my hands up at this. Not one Saturday game at home!!!! Kudos to those ADs that do it. To those that don't, jacka$$ you can't retire fast enough. You know who you are, just leave already. If the team doesnt go 10-4 with your cupcake schedule you should be ashamed. The schedule is a joke.

SMH. Shoulda coulda woulda.

Section XI makes the schedules not the AD's. Coaches pick 2 NL games. But you obviously have some problem with whoever you are talking about so you probably don't care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedule is posted on section xi website. Still not Clear on the new Divisions though, looks like 2,3 and 4 all combined for regular season.

What's with the no spectators for the St Anthony's Ward Melville scrimmage. (3/25). But I gotta say wow Patriots tight scheduling. Way to go out there and get some good competition week in and week out.

WM does this for all scrimmages because they don't want to pay for security.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedule is posted on section xi website. Still not Clear on the new Divisions though, looks like 2,3 and 4 all combined for regular season.

What's with the no spectators for the St Anthony's Ward Melville scrimmage. (3/25). But I gotta say wow Patriots tight scheduling. Way to go out there and get some good competition week in and week out.

WM does this for all scrimmages because they don't want to pay for security.

People still come and watch and there are usually no problems.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedule is posted on section xi website. Still not Clear on the new Divisions though, looks like 2,3 and 4 all combined for regular season.

What's with the no spectators for the St Anthony's Ward Melville scrimmage. (3/25). But I gotta say wow Patriots tight scheduling. Way to go out there and get some good competition week in and week out.

WM does this for all scrimmages because they don't want to pay for security.

People still come and watch and there are usually no problems.

The only problem is the officiating is terrible and inevitability a kid gets hurt every year

I am so glad to see this year come to an end - we have been through a lot.

We started the year by re-classifying our son to better his chances of getting a full scholarship to an Ivy League school (it worked) we then decided to join the Express so my son could transfer to Chaminade for his repeat senior year, he was put on the express third AA team with 50 other kids going to Chammy and St A's so we decided to transfer back to his public school or should we say "pubic" school since the coach forced the team to go home naked after every loss during the season (this guy should be fired, and then re-hired but that would never happen). At the end of the season we got an even better offer from an even better Ivy (full ride + a car) so he de-committed from his original choice and committed to the new school. We have moved him to a new better clothed school for this year because his dream has always been to play in the Cold Spring Harbor v. Manhasset game and we can't wait for that. Now that he is in full training mode for the spring season he has decided he doesn't want the whole "IVY" experience after all and we are looking at some schools with a little more "fun". Any advice or suggestions on a school for him would be appreciated but please no snarky anonymous posts, he is a really great player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am so glad to see this year come to an end - we have been through a lot.

We started the year by re-classifying our son to better his chances of getting a full scholarship to an Ivy League school (it worked) we then decided to join the Express so my son could transfer to Chaminade for his repeat senior year, he was put on the express third AA team with 50 other kids going to Chammy and St A's so we decided to transfer back to his public school or should we say "pubic" school since the coach forced the team to go home naked after every loss during the season (this guy should be fired, and then re-hired but that would never happen). At the end of the season we got an even better offer from an even better Ivy (full ride + a car) so he de-committed from his original choice and committed to the new school. We have moved him to a new better clothed school for this year because his dream has always been to play in the Cold Spring Harbor v. Manhasset game and we can't wait for that. Now that he is in full training mode for the spring season he has decided he doesn't want the whole "IVY" experience after all and we are looking at some schools with a little more "fun". Any advice or suggestions on a school for him would be appreciated but please no snarky anonymous posts, he is a really great player.

Does it have to be D 1

If he surfs send him to Ridgemont High. Great school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am so glad to see this year come to an end - we have been through a lot.

We started the year by re-classifying our son to better his chances of getting a full scholarship to an Ivy League school (it worked) we then decided to join the Express so my son could transfer to Chaminade for his repeat senior year, he was put on the express third AA team with 50 other kids going to Chammy and St A's so we decided to transfer back to his public school or should we say "pubic" school since the coach forced the team to go home naked after every loss during the season (this guy should be fired, and then re-hired but that would never happen). At the end of the season we got an even better offer from an even better Ivy (full ride + a car) so he de-committed from his original choice and committed to the new school. We have moved him to a new better clothed school for this year because his dream has always been to play in the Cold Spring Harbor v. Manhasset game and we can't wait for that. Now that he is in full training mode for the spring season he has decided he doesn't want the whole "IVY" experience after all and we are looking at some schools with a little more "fun". Any advice or suggestions on a school for him would be appreciated but please no snarky anonymous posts, he is a really great player.

This made me chuckle. And I'll start the countdown on the tool that will reply back by saying that Ivy Schools don't give athletic scholarships. In 5, 4, 3, 2.....

I call BS, Ivies don't give scholarships! ( Hope I'm first)

ives don't give scholorships

but Brown has naked week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am so glad to see this year come to an end - we have been through a lot.

We started the year by re-classifying our son to better his chances of getting a full scholarship to an Ivy League school (it worked) we then decided to join the Express so my son could transfer to Chaminade for his repeat senior year, he was put on the express third AA team with 50 other kids going to Chammy and St A's so we decided to transfer back to his public school or should we say "pubic" school since the coach forced the team to go home naked after every loss during the season (this guy should be fired, and then re-hired but that would never happen). At the end of the season we got an even better offer from an even better Ivy (full ride + a car) so he de-committed from his original choice and committed to the new school. We have moved him to a new better clothed school for this year because his dream has always been to play in the Cold Spring Harbor v. Manhasset game and we can't wait for that. Now that he is in full training mode for the spring season he has decided he doesn't want the whole "IVY" experience after all and we are looking at some schools with a little more "fun". Any advice or suggestions on a school for him would be appreciated but please no snarky anonymous posts, he is a really great player.

This made me chuckle. And I'll start the countdown on the tool that will reply back by saying that Ivy Schools don't give athletic scholarships. In 5, 4, 3, 2.....

Obviously a fake post, you can't transfer into Chaminade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

The Ivies don't give merit-based scholarships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

The Ivies don't give merit-based scholarships.

But they do for arts and music.

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

The Ivies don't give merit-based scholarships.

But they do for arts and music.

No they don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

If you send your daughters to an ultra left wing school make sure she is not to attractive because you don't want her rated too high on the F***able chart or too ugly and she ends up on the unF***able chart. because keeping a journal on the type of sex you think certain freshman soccer players will excel at is such an important part of the college experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

adjective man�ly \ˈman-lē\
Definition of manly : having or showing qualities (as strength or courage) often felt to be proper for a man ..... yes the sex journals and rating systems were so "manly".

Do you have a daughter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Did you mean forum when you wrote form...twice. As usual someone from the left thinking they are smarter than they really are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Ha. Guess you were one of the lower graded participants.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

The Ivies don't give merit-based scholarships.

But they do for arts and music.

No they don't.

Sure do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Did you mean forum when you wrote form...twice. As usual someone from the left thinking they are smarter than they really are.

. No pin head, happens with auto fill, most likely you probably never heard of it, most right wing pin heads are usually good with vocabulary as long as the words are seven letters of less. Now, forum, does that make you happy. R/W as*hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Ha. Guess you were one of the lower graded participants.

. Have no idea what you are talking about and I doubt you do either. Now, do you want to buy that poster or not? Other right wingers are very interested so it won't last long. Finally, try and stay focused on lacrosse and not your right wing bullsh*t.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ives don't give scholorships

Yes they do, but not for sports. Have your kid learn to play the trumpet or sax and see what happens.

The Ivies don't give merit-based scholarships.

But they do for arts and music.

No they don't.

Sure do.

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From Harvard: "Aid is based entirely on need, not merit." - https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/how-aid-works

From Yale: "While Yale does not award merit-based scholarships, Yale students often qualify for merit awards from other organizations." - http://finaid.yale.edu/costs-affordability/types-aid/scholarships-and-grants#merit

From Princeton: "All financial aid awards are based solely on need." - https://admission.princeton.edu/financialaid/financial-aid-faq

From Dartmouth: "Dartmouth Scholarships are need-based and are given without expectation of repayment." - http://admissions.dartmouth.edu/fin.../types-financial-aid/grants-scholarships

From Penn: "All scholarships are need-based, so students must complete the financial aid process." - http://www.sfs.upenn.edu/paying/paying-grants-scholarships.htm

From Columbia: "There are no merit scholarships at Columbia as all of our financial aid is strictly need-based. While we hope you do well in your classes, there is no GPA requirement attached to your Columbia University Grant." - https://cc-seas.financialaid.columbia.edu/eligibility/myths#merit

From Brown: "As a member of the Ivy League, Brown does not award academic or athletic scholarships. All financial aid awarded by Brown is need-based meaning that no factors are considered except the family's demonstrated financial need. Brown only takes into account a family's ability to pay before awarding any financial aid funds to a student." - https://www.brown.edu/about/administration/financial-aid/general-questions

From Cornell: "No merit aid or athletic scholarships are awarded at Cornell; all grant aid is need-based." - http://finaid.cornell.edu/types-aid/grants-and-scholarships

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Did you mean forum when you wrote form...twice. As usual someone from the left thinking they are smarter than they really are.

. No pin head, happens with auto fill, most likely you probably never heard of it, most right wing pin heads are usually good with vocabulary as long as the words are seven letters of less. Now, forum, does that make you happy. R/W as*hole.

Yea...hey lefty. Boo hoo. You can now go to your safe zone so nobody will hurt you with their microaggressions and let the grown ups take over.

Okay back to some lax, who is pushing hard on the 2018's.

How many of those 2019's are working their asses off to make the team. 2017's push the team hard but be leaders not assholes, leave your school as a legacy to remembered and welcome back. Push everyone at practice whether it is winter indoor or these outdoor scrimmages. enjoy the holiday season and dont forget about those books!!!

Anyone else sick of basketball season and ready to move on to lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Did you mean forum when you wrote form...twice. As usual someone from the left thinking they are smarter than they really are.

. No pin head, happens with auto fill, most likely you probably never heard of it, most right wing pin heads are usually good with vocabulary as long as the words are seven letters of less. Now, forum, does that make you happy. R/W as*hole.

Yea...hey lefty. Boo hoo. You can now go to your safe zone so nobody will hurt you with their microaggressions and let the grown ups take over.

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

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Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble. [/quote]

Still can't swallow that "she lost?" pill, can you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And ultra left wing liberals that suspend team seasons for being too man..ly. Make sure your sons team doesn't have an old Farrah Fawcett poster in the locker room.

Why? Are you interested in buying it? Probably are and hate to see what you do when you are looking at it. Sounds to me you are a far right pinhead and just now showing yourself. This is a lacrosse form, leave the politics out of it. Just like a far right wing pinhead to introduce this trash into a lacrosse form.

Did you mean forum when you wrote form...twice. As usual someone from the left thinking they are smarter than they really are.

. No pin head, happens with auto fill, most likely you probably never heard of it, most right wing pin heads are usually good with vocabulary as long as the words are seven letters of less. Now, forum, does that make you happy. R/W as*hole.

Yea...hey lefty. Boo hoo. You can now go to your safe zone so nobody will hurt you with their microaggressions and let the grown ups take over.

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

Anyone know of a place that does late night pickup games ? High school / college kids home over the break. ISA Sayville used to do it but don't think they are doing it under the new management.

Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble. [/quote]

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left. [/quote]

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Smithtown East
Pequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Smithtown East
Pequa

Rematch Syosset vs WM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Smithtown East
Pequa [

What is this based on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Smithtown East
Pequa

"Pequa" your nose...!!!

Syosset vs winner of WM / SE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Preseason predictions anyone?

Nassau?

Suffolk?

Smithtown East
Pequa

Rematch Syosset vs WM

Syosset ... No Way

Last year was the high tick for the Syosset program. They will be decent this year, but their slide into mediocrity begins. Put that in the bank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left. [/quote]

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again. [/quote]

OK.....SNOWFLAKE.. Go to your safe place and do your yoga and breathing exercises.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year was the high tick for the Syosset program. They will be decent this year, but their slide into mediocrity begins. Put that in the bank.

1974 was the high tick for Syosset with Eddie Pray, Lance and Brendan Schneck as well as being coached by the great John Pappas. Syosset will not slide into mediocrity if only for the simple reason that there are not enough quality programs in Nassau A to make them anything less than contenders for the county championship for the foreseeable future. A team that consistently plays in and or wins the county championship is better than mediocre. IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again. [/quote]

OK.....SNOWFLAKE.. Go to your safe place and do your yoga and breathing exercises. [/quote]

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush. Hate to see where your safe place is and I would love to see your 300 pound [lacrosse] do any kind of exercise. You are probably out of breath going up a flight of six steps. Now, for the sake of everyone why don't you just STFU.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year was the high tick for the Syosset program. They will be decent this year, but their slide into mediocrity begins. Put that in the bank.

So I guess Syosset's slide will begin 2 years after Massapequa's slide, 4 years after Port Washington's slide and who knows how long since Farmingdale's slide.

Syo ran over Massapequa in the Nassau final in 2015 and 2016. How about we see how this season plays out on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

OK.....SNOWFLAKE.. Go to your safe place and do your yoga and breathing exercises. [/quote]

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush. Hate to see where your safe place is and I would love to see your 300 pound [lacrosse] do any kind of exercise. You are probably out of breath going up a flight of six steps. Now, for the sake of everyone why don't you just STFU.

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Ha....your funny....please forward your triathlon time, and/or your Al Bundy High School memory......im guessing you have neither.....and keep wearing your kids lax shirt

Re: Syosset, I was referring to recent history. Say what you wish regarding your hopes for the program but there is very little talent and lower participation down the ranks...Enjoy this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Syosset, I was referring to recent history. Say what you wish regarding your hopes for the program but there is very little talent and lower participation down the ranks...Enjoy this season.

Who do you see emerging as the new power in Nassau A with the demise of Syosset? I think that Syosset has a strong feeder program both in the town and with the igloo kids having an impact on the Varsity as soon as this season as well as for seasons to come. I would say Massapequa will continue to contend as will Syosset, but after those two I do not see any other "A" with a superior youth program to suggest that the big two should not dominate the conference for years to come.

Farmingdale will always represent!!!!!!!!

Farmingdale youth program is very strong, they will be in the mix .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Syosset, I was referring to recent history. Say what you wish regarding your hopes for the program but there is very little talent and lower participation down the ranks...Enjoy this season.

Who do you see emerging as the new power in Nassau A with the demise of Syosset? I think that Syosset has a strong feeder program both in the town and with the igloo kids having an impact on the Varsity as soon as this season as well as for seasons to come. I would say Massapequa will continue to contend as will Syosset, but after those two I do not see any other "A" with a superior youth program to suggest that the big two should not dominate the conference for years to come.

What Igloo kids from the 2018, 2019, or 2020 are going to have such an impact? What positions do they play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Syosset, I was referring to recent history. Say what you wish regarding your hopes for the program but there is very little talent and lower participation down the ranks...Enjoy this season.

Whatever you say Pequa Dad, err I mean Pequa Mom.

Nope, neither. Port and Farmingdale have good classes coming up through jr high and high school as does Massapequa. you'll see. Word is you are not even going to field a 6th grade PAL team. It was a nice run...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

OK.....SNOWFLAKE.. Go to your safe place and do your yoga and breathing exercises.

Wow, such a big man, using the term snowflake. That must really give you a big rush. Hate to see where your safe place is and I would love to see your 300 pound [lacrosse] do any kind of exercise. You are probably out of breath going up a flight of six steps. Now, for the sake of everyone why don't you just STFU.

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Ha....your funny....please forward your triathlon time, and/or your Al Bundy High School memory......im guessing you have neither.....and keep wearing your kids lax shirt [/quote]

Can really tell you are an as*hole from NY. No, I don't need to do any of that, but when I need a good laugh I look at the on line pictures of your 325 pound wife. Wonder what she is doing with all those other fat men? Now that is something to laugh at and also something to make you throw up, at the same time. Had enough but*head, or do you want more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left. [/quote]

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again. [/quote]

Ok there "Death takes a Holiday" time for your happy pills. If this country could survive 8 years under this useless, do nothing, vacation taking, big government, socialist, partisan, ideologue, odds are we'll prosper under a workaholic, successful, country loving, skilled leader, with a laundry list of accomplishments. My money is on the workaholic.

Massapequa best 8th grade players are going to Catholic School.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa best 8th grade players are going to Catholic School.

Ok dad

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

oooh that's hurts.....ha...Hey....is that you Biff.. I remember you......you were the flute player for the whole Marching band....oh yea, a member of the AV team....and you wore the team mascot uniform....The Ballerina's.. How goes it. You still a lefty snowflake. My guess is you still are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again. [/quote]

Ok there "Death takes a Holiday" time for your happy pills. If this country could survive 8 years under this useless, do nothing, vacation taking, big government, socialist, partisan, ideologue, odds are we'll prosper under a workaholic, successful, country loving, skilled leader, with a laundry list of accomplishments. My money is on the workaholic. [/quote]

Sit tight you are in for a rude awakening. You forgot to add to your laundry list, numerous bankruptcies, a man with no ethics and a scumbag with absolutely no morals. You are going to lose you money, big time. This time next year Trump will not be in office, that is a fact. His popularity rating is at an all time low for an incoming president, how he got elected is anyone's guess. Probably by misguided blinded people like you. You show your true colors when it was mentioned how government worked in the 50's and 60's, it worked together for the people. That either went right over your head, or you are most likely a far right Pentecostal pinhead, which is the worst of the worst. You seem to like a divided nation, makes you happy. Keep marching right winger, right off the cliff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

Ok there "Death takes a Holiday" time for your happy pills. If this country could survive 8 years under this useless, do nothing, vacation taking, big government, socialist, partisan, ideologue, odds are we'll prosper under a workaholic, successful, country loving, skilled leader, with a laundry list of accomplishments. My money is on the workaholic. [/quote]

Sit tight you are in for a rude awakening. You forgot to add to your laundry list, numerous bankruptcies, a man with no ethics and a scumbag with absolutely no morals. You are going to lose you money, big time. This time next year Trump will not be in office, that is a fact. His popularity rating is at an all time low for an incoming president, how he got elected is anyone's guess. Probably by misguided blinded people like you. You show your true colors when it was mentioned how government worked in the 50's and 60's, it worked together for the people. That either went right over your head, or you are most likely a far right Pentecostal pinhead, which is the worst of the worst. You seem to like a divided nation, makes you happy. Keep marching right winger, right off the cliff. [/quote]

1) lets get back to LAX
2) you say he likes a divided nation as you call him a Pentecostal Pinhead.... Your are a [lacrosse]!!!
3) Lets get back to LAX

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

Ok there "Death takes a Holiday" time for your happy pills. If this country could survive 8 years under this useless, do nothing, vacation taking, big government, socialist, partisan, ideologue, odds are we'll prosper under a workaholic, successful, country loving, skilled leader, with a laundry list of accomplishments. My money is on the workaholic. [/quote]

Sit tight you are in for a rude awakening. You forgot to add to your laundry list, numerous bankruptcies, a man with no ethics and a scumbag with absolutely no morals. You are going to lose you money, big time. This time next year Trump will not be in office, that is a fact. His popularity rating is at an all time low for an incoming president, how he got elected is anyone's guess. Probably by misguided blinded people like you. You show your true colors when it was mentioned how government worked in the 50's and 60's, it worked together for the people. That either went right over your head, or you are most likely a far right Pentecostal pinhead, which is the worst of the worst. You seem to like a divided nation, makes you happy. Keep marching right winger, right off the cliff. [/quote]

Slow your roll left wing sycophant. The nation is extremely divided because of the actions of the ideologue currently taking yet another vacation on the tax payers nickel. Your childish, anti-Christian rant, is so predictable it's sickening. Is that what you on left call tolerance?
Oh, and a great regurgitation of the poll data. Did you get that from David Muir on ABC or that condescending pig on MSNBC? Maybe you got it from one of those highly reliable polls, you know, the ones that had that god awful shrew winning in a land slide?
With regard to the 50's and 60's. Democrats of that era where far more sane on some subjects, and would be considered conservative by todays standards. Todays DNC is nothing more than a collection of victims. Speaking of Dems from the 50's and 60's, you did know Kennedy was a tax cutter right? I mean besides being a womanizing slob, and the son of a rum running tax evading, criminal. Talk about an illegitimate President... He got elected because of his families connection with the Mafia. The mob stuffed the ballot boxes in West Virginia and Chicago. That's how he won. Which ultimately led to their demise when brother Bobby double crossed the mob. Is that the government of 50's and 60's you were talking about? Or were you talking about the Democrats of the 50's and 60's who opposed civil rights? Yes, it was the Republicans that garnered the votes to pass the civil rights act. Is that the government of the 50's and 60's you were talking about?
Yes Trump declared bankruptcy in some of his companies. A legal action in business. Of course you don't want to talk about the overwhelming successful businesses he built, that created tremendous wealth for him and so many investors. Businesses that employed thousands and thousand of people.
I know these facts will stump you, liberals are always dumbfounded by facts. Now would be the time to label me a bigot, racist, or something like that. That's how you folks deal with facts.
Write whatever you want, I will not respond. I regard liberalism as a mental disorder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

That can't happen any kid brought up has to be approved by adminstration since he is back coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Nice seeing an article in Newsday yesterday on CSH kid who plays basketball..telling you the advantages of playing tbasketball and how it helps with vision on the lacrosse field. More kids should do it. He is a great kid with great parents.Cornell will be the luckiest to have him

And you know less than you think you do about the program as a whole...

The next wally sczerbiak credits hoops for his awesomeness in lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't, the safety zone is full of right wingers, who would ever want to be there. You seem to have so many unresolved problems in your personality structure that you cannot seem to rise to the grown up level stage in your life, thus your childish little rants. Just sit on the sidelines little boy and watch the grown up and see how it is done. Plus, I'm done with this BS, it is a lacrosse forum, not some forum for the right to spew their useless dribble.

Dribble is what you do with a basketball. Drivel is the nonsense spewed by the left.

No, drivel is what is spewed out of the mouth of butth*ad D Trump. This country is quickly going down with this jerk as president. And don't come back with it's the left. The far right scares the [lacrosse] out of me, the same with the far left. Find a good place in the middle of both, that is where we have the best government, but in the political climate of the past 15 or so years, it will never happen. Remember when the left and right made a serious attempt to do what was right for the people, that worked, but it hasn't happened in a long time, not sure it ever will again.

Ok there "Death takes a Holiday" time for your happy pills. If this country could survive 8 years under this useless, do nothing, vacation taking, big government, socialist, partisan, ideologue, odds are we'll prosper under a workaholic, successful, country loving, skilled leader, with a laundry list of accomplishments. My money is on the workaholic.

Sit tight you are in for a rude awakening. You forgot to add to your laundry list, numerous bankruptcies, a man with no ethics and a scumbag with absolutely no morals. You are going to lose you money, big time. This time next year Trump will not be in office, that is a fact. His popularity rating is at an all time low for an incoming president, how he got elected is anyone's guess. Probably by misguided blinded people like you. You show your true colors when it was mentioned how government worked in the 50's and 60's, it worked together for the people. That either went right over your head, or you are most likely a far right Pentecostal pinhead, which is the worst of the worst. You seem to like a divided nation, makes you happy. Keep marching right winger, right off the cliff. [/quote]

Slow your roll left wing sycophant. The nation is extremely divided because of the actions of the ideologue currently taking yet another vacation on the tax payers nickel. Your childish, anti-Christian rant, is so predictable it's sickening. Is that what you on left call tolerance?
Oh, and a great regurgitation of the poll data. Did you get that from David Muir on ABC or that condescending pig on MSNBC? Maybe you got it from one of those highly reliable polls, you know, the ones that had that god awful shrew winning in a land slide?
With regard to the 50's and 60's. Democrats of that era where far more sane on some subjects, and would be considered conservative by todays standards. Todays DNC is nothing more than a collection of victims. Speaking of Dems from the 50's and 60's, you did know Kennedy was a tax cutter right? I mean besides being a womanizing slob, and the son of a rum running tax evading, criminal. Talk about an illegitimate President... He got elected because of his families connection with the Mafia. The mob stuffed the ballot boxes in West Virginia and Chicago. That's how he won. Which ultimately led to their demise when brother Bobby double crossed the mob. Is that the government of 50's and 60's you were talking about? Or were you talking about the Democrats of the 50's and 60's who opposed civil rights? Yes, it was the Republicans that garnered the votes to pass the civil rights act. Is that the government of the 50's and 60's you were talking about?
Yes Trump declared bankruptcy in some of his companies. A legal action in business. Of course you don't want to talk about the overwhelming successful businesses he built, that created tremendous wealth for him and so many investors. Businesses that employed thousands and thousand of people.
I know these facts will stump you, liberals are always dumbfounded by facts. Now would be the time to label me a bigot, racist, or something like that. That's how you folks deal with facts.
Write whatever you want, I will not respond. I regard liberalism as a mental disorder. [/quote]

Well butthead, surprise to you but I am a Republican, not a Democrat, so what do you think of that. And I hope you don't respond, it is people like you that keep this divide moving forward, spewing out your one sided garbage, failing to look at the shortfalls of the Republican party, always putting the blame on only one side. Oh, lets not forget, Trump does hire thousands of workers, most are undocumented illegal immigrants, everything he manufactures is out of country etc. etc. etc. And then there is Richard Nixon, good old tricky [lacrosse]. Again, it will be a pleasure NOT to hear from a one sided windbag like you. Lastly, since you liked it so much, Pentecostal pinhead!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Does Igloo even have 2018 or 2019 teams?

The entire Igloo/Syo conversation started when someone posted that Syossets run of success was over and they have nothing coming up. I do not think that any Igllo player will have an impact on the varsity this year but they have some kids that can flat out play and they will be forming the nucleus of good Syosset teams for the future. As well as some very good 89+2 and express kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

I do?? Please, tell us what you think you know. Because that's exactly how it works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The next wally sczerbiak credits hoops for his awesomeness in lax

Yeah ..just minus 2 feet and good knee groin. So I would rethink the "nice" phrase. First time I have seen him do that in all the years I have watched in both sports but maybe I just haven't been looking to much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Does Igloo even have 2018 or 2019 teams?

The entire Igloo/Syo conversation started when someone posted that Syossets run of success was over and they have nothing coming up. I do not think that any Igllo player will have an impact on the varsity this year but they have some kids that can flat out play and they will be forming the nucleus of good Syosset teams for the future. As well as some very good 89+2 and express kids.

What grade years are these players from that are forming the nucleus that will playing on Varsity but not having an impact? 2018, 2019, or 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Does Igloo even have 2018 or 2019 teams?

The entire Igloo/Syo conversation started when someone posted that Syossets run of success was over and they have nothing coming up. I do not think that any Igllo player will have an impact on the varsity this year but they have some kids that can flat out play and they will be forming the nucleus of good Syosset teams for the future. As well as some very good 89+2 and express kids.

What grade years are these players from that are forming the nucleus that will playing on Varsity but not having an impact? 2018, 2019, or 2020?

Dude - are you writing your senior dissertation on Igloo lacrosse and the impact they may or may not have on Syosset lacrosse in the next generation? The poster was making a defense of the future of the Syosset program by stating that the future looks bright and a large part of that is because of the Igloo teams that have many Syosset players on them, this seems simple enough. Syosset should be in good shape the next two season mostly because no team is that good in the "A" conference - after that it is anybody's guess because we need to see what kids go to private schools, what kids return from private schools and how kids continue to develop. If you are that interested in Igloo give AA a call and ask him, I am sure he would love to talk about his players and his organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Does Igloo even have 2018 or 2019 teams?

The entire Igloo/Syo conversation started when someone posted that Syossets run of success was over and they have nothing coming up. I do not think that any Igllo player will have an impact on the varsity this year but they have some kids that can flat out play and they will be forming the nucleus of good Syosset teams for the future. As well as some very good 89+2 and express kids.

What grade years are these players from that are forming the nucleus that will playing on Varsity but not having an impact? 2018, 2019, or 2020?

Dude - are you writing your senior dissertation on Igloo lacrosse and the impact they may or may not have on Syosset lacrosse in the next generation? The poster was making a defense of the future of the Syosset program by stating that the future looks bright and a large part of that is because of the Igloo teams that have many Syosset players on them, this seems simple enough. Syosset should be in good shape the next two season mostly because no team is that good in the "A" conference - after that it is anybody's guess because we need to see what kids go to private schools, what kids return from private schools and how kids continue to develop. If you are that interested in Igloo give AA a call and ask him, I am sure he would love to talk about his players and his organization.

No dissertation here Chief, but you may want to reread the post - "igloo kids having an impact on Varsity this season". Question seemed simple enough - what years are these Igloo kids coming from that will benefit the Syosset Varisty this season - 18's, 19's , or 20's? Simple, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo???? Seriously???? The best kid Syosset has coming up plays for 91, he's a 10th grader. Igloo kids may get on the roster but that's only because big daddy hired JC.

You obviously know nothing about the Syosset Lacrosse Team.

Can you enlighten us? Who from the 2018, 2019, 2020 Igloo teams are going to be contributing on Syosset Varsity this year?

Does Igloo even have 2018 or 2019 teams?

The entire Igloo/Syo conversation started when someone posted that Syossets run of success was over and they have nothing coming up. I do not think that any Igllo player will have an impact on the varsity this year but they have some kids that can flat out play and they will be forming the nucleus of good Syosset teams for the future. As well as some very good 89+2 and express kids.

What grade years are these players from that are forming the nucleus that will playing on Varsity but not having an impact? 2018, 2019, or 2020?

Dude - are you writing your senior dissertation on Igloo lacrosse and the impact they may or may not have on Syosset lacrosse in the next generation? The poster was making a defense of the future of the Syosset program by stating that the future looks bright and a large part of that is because of the Igloo teams that have many Syosset players on them, this seems simple enough. Syosset should be in good shape the next two season mostly because no team is that good in the "A" conference - after that it is anybody's guess because we need to see what kids go to private schools, what kids return from private schools and how kids continue to develop. If you are that interested in Igloo give AA a call and ask him, I am sure he would love to talk about his players and his organization.

So no team in A is very good over the next couple of years? I think Massapequa would argue that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So no team in A is very good over the next couple of years? I think Massapequa would argue that.

Of course Massapequa would argue that as would Syosset and they would be wrong, so would Port and Farmigdale

IMHO, we should all stop this nonsensical banter. Season starts soon, we should let the kids prove what team(s) is/are going to be dominant. I think many of you will be surprised, the 2017/2018/2019 group, as a whole, is very talented across LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO, we should all stop this nonsensical banter. Season starts soon, we should let the kids prove what team(s) is/are going to be dominant. I think many of you will be surprised, the 2017/2018/2019 group, as a whole, is very talented across LI.

Respectfully disagree, this site is dedicated to lacrosse conjecture, I would rather read the chest thumping diatribe of overweight 50 year old losers (myself included) living vicariously through their children than the political rants of "Pentecostal pin heads" (again myself included)

Stop with the Nassau lacrosse problems !! Suffolk well oiled machine . Suffolk lax is where it's at !!

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Nassau lacrosse problems !! Suffolk well oiled machine . Suffolk lax is where it's at !!

tru dat .... with the exception of CSH that will be the best team on LI this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Nassau County......cmon....NYC should just extend Queens and take it over. Tiny little house on little pieces of land. Cut your lawns with scissors, within your fenced in little compound. A lot of little things in Nassau including most of the men's hands who live there Crime, mismanagement, traffic,.....yuck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Dude, I grew up in Nassau, and moved to Suffolk because Nassau was getting to be too much like Queens. Oversized homes on small lots, practically touching each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Nassau lacrosse problems !! Suffolk well oiled machine . Suffolk lax is where it's at !!

tru dat .... with the exception of CSH that will be the best team on LI this year

The whole Nassau, Suffolk debate is dumb. That said, CSH is technically in Suffolk despite that they play in Section VIII.

Perhaps, but then a 1-2 year drop off...

one elementary school and part of the district reside in nassau (Laurel Hollow) but the high school is Suffolk. (CSH)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Nassau County......cmon....NYC should just extend Queens and take it over. Tiny little house on little pieces of land. Cut your lawns with scissors, within your fenced in little compound. A lot of little things in Nassau including most of the men's hands who live there Crime, mismanagement, traffic,.....yuck.

In Nassau we have our lawns cut by our gardener.Not our wives.Get your facts straight skippy...and go wash my car!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Nassau County......cmon....NYC should just extend Queens and take it over. Tiny little house on little pieces of land. Cut your lawns with scissors, within your fenced in little compound. A lot of little things in Nassau including most of the men's hands who live there Crime, mismanagement, traffic,.....yuck.

In Nassau we have our lawns cut by our gardener.Not our wives.Get your facts straight skippy...and go wash my car!

check again....your wives are banging that gardener....you with small hands

Hah. All true on the Nassau bash... but I loved being able to look from my window 6 feet right into my neighbors windo, and to smell whatever they were bbqing 4 doors down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Nassau County......cmon....NYC should just extend Queens and take it over. Tiny little house on little pieces of land. Cut your lawns with scissors, within your fenced in little compound. A lot of little things in Nassau including most of the men's hands who live there Crime, mismanagement, traffic,.....yuck.

Not sure what part of Nassau you been driving through, but there are plenty of parts of it that don't look anything like Queens (which I grew up in BTW) - maybe you should come up to the North Shore and check it out! And then you also don't have to drive two hours to go anywhere off of LI!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Nassau lacrosse problems !! Suffolk well oiled machine . Suffolk lax is where it's at !!

tru dat .... with the exception of CSH that will be the best team on LI this year

The whole Nassau, Suffolk debate is dumb. That said, CSH is technically in Suffolk despite that they play in Section VIII.

Suffolk can have CSH..After hearing what one of their kids did in BB I am surprised section Vlll hasn't banned him from playing like they did to one kid from my town..I guess money talks..Ridiculous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hah. All true on the Nassau bash... but I loved being able to look from my window 6 feet right into my neighbors windo, and to smell whatever they were bbqing 4 doors down.

Now all you can smell out ur back door is goose poop and cow manure. But, on a positive note it is more convenient to get oxy and crack in Suffolk. So at least you have that going for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hah. All true on the Nassau bash... but I loved being able to look from my window 6 feet right into my neighbors windo, and to smell whatever they were bbqing 4 doors down.

Yea but in Suffolk you will get bit by a pit bull . Oh wait, those chain link fences will keep it in. But what about those cars on cinder blocks on the front yards ? And the curbs . Where are they ?? And if u get divorced , are u still cousins?? A few things I wonder about.

lol both. Good shtick coming out of both Nassau and Suffolk.

Isn't Garden City technically in Queens?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't Garden City technically in Queens?

Yes. They are also trying to build a wall around it to keep out the hoodlums creeping in........see the Nassau discussion

oK, i'LL bite what happened during a basketball game? who was playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't Garden City technically in Queens?

Best school district in Long Island, look it up, facts don't lie. Great academics, great athletics, property taxes moderate compared to other parts of Long Island. It's a wonderful community. The air is fresher, grass greener, less snowfall than everyone else, and the trees keep us cooler in the summer. Come on in the town is great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't Garden City technically in Queens?

Is this a serious question?? Have you ever looked at a map??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't Garden City technically in Queens?

Best school district in Long Island, look it up, facts don't lie. Great academics, great athletics, property taxes moderate compared to other parts of Long Island. It's a wonderful community. The air is fresher, grass greener, less snowfall than everyone else, and the trees keep us cooler in the summer. Come on in the town is great.

Hmmm..the traffic is worse, the diesel fumes from buses/trucks is terrible, there is no grass, the toxic plumes need to be cleaned up, the water is polluted, the trees ruin the sidewalks then crash down on houses, the people are snobs (unknown why), school/athletics are marginal ....you can keep it, but keep telling yourself how great it is.

Lol. "Mount the Garden City Defenses We are under attack. Quick pull the ladder up so no more queens guys like me or my parents can move in."

No, I don't look at a map, it just feels like parts of queens.
Great tongue in cheek diatribe on Gc being the best. Good stuff. Way to keep it light on here. Its all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. both the last two posts are good humor. Now go back out to your former hick sod farms. If you just got dropped into parts of suffolk you'd have no idea if you were in Dryden NY or Suffolk county... so uncosmopolitan...probably have never even been to NYC.

Nassau County......cmon....NYC should just extend Queens and take it over. Tiny little house on little pieces of land. Cut your lawns with scissors, within your fenced in little compound. A lot of little things in Nassau including most of the men's hands who live there Crime, mismanagement, traffic,.....yuck.

Nassau-better schools,better people,more income,= more D1 lax players.

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

I can't believe that this post is so stupid I am going to defend GC but I don't think you can rate a school district by per pupil spending and the fact that they are such a highly rated school with lower per pupil spending (and lower property taxes) sounds like a win - win for the homeowners

Did GC beat your kids team really, really, really, really, really , really bad in BOTH lacrosse and football? Like REALLY BAD??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

How is Syosset going to be this year?

I can't believe that this post is so stupid I am going to defend GC but I don't think you can rate a school district by per pupil spending and the fact that they are such a highly rated school with lower per pupil spending (and lower property taxes) sounds like a win - win for the homeowners

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

How is Syosset going to be this year?

I can't believe that this post is so stupid I am going to defend GC but I don't think you can rate a school district by per pupil spending and the fact that they are such a highly rated school with lower per pupil spending (and lower property taxes) sounds like a win - win for the homeowners

Syosset will be fine... At least 6 D1 commits on varsity with more in the works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, neither. Port and Farmingdale have good classes coming up through jr high and high school as does Massapequa. you'll see. Word is you are not even going to field a 6th grade PAL team. It was a nice run...

Word is wrong, 6th grade has 2 PAL teams. Head varsity coach, coaches one of them.

Syosset is the superior academic, GC has far superior athletics. So based on a lacrosse web site, WE RULE!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is the superior academic, GC has far superior athletics. So based on a lacrosse web site, WE RULE!

Except that GC has not beaten Syosset at Lacrosse for the past two years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope, neither. Port and Farmingdale have good classes coming up through jr high and high school as does Massapequa. you'll see. Word is you are not even going to field a 6th grade PAL team. It was a nice run...

Word is wrong, 6th grade has 2 PAL teams. Head varsity coach, coaches one of them.

What does Port have that would make you think they are a top team..Just lost a very good goalie.

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

For starters, I was being facetious, but with that being said, you should look at ALL the sports in GC, including Girls to get a true feel on just how good they are in just about every sport. They have been a football powerhouse for about 35 years, lacrosse powerhouse for the same. Take a look at girls field hockey and lacrosse. Great academic, great athletic and a nice town with tight residents. Sorry, but most towns do not offer the all that. Oh yeah, the property taxes on a moderate house are very reasonable, plus they pick up your garbage cans from the side of your house and all you have to do is put your fall leaves on the curb and they go too, just don't park your car on the street past 2:00 AM or risk a ticket. Keeps the burglars away. See, it's a really nice place to live. If you like where you live, great, but we really love where we live.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

For starters, I was being facetious, but with that being said, you should look at ALL the sports in GC, including Girls to get a true feel on just how good they are in just about every sport. They have been a football powerhouse for about 35 years, lacrosse powerhouse for the same. Take a look at girls field hockey and lacrosse. Great academic, great athletic and a nice town with tight residents. Sorry, but most towns do not offer the all that. Oh yeah, the property taxes on a moderate house are very reasonable, plus they pick up your garbage cans from the side of your house and all you have to do is put your fall leaves on the curb and they go too, just don't park your car on the street past 2:00 AM or risk a ticket. Keeps the burglars away. See, it's a really nice place to live. If you like where you live, great, but we really love where we live.

Unfortunately the drug epidemic is there too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

For starters, I was being facetious, but with that being said, you should look at ALL the sports in GC, including Girls to get a true feel on just how good they are in just about every sport. They have been a football powerhouse for about 35 years, lacrosse powerhouse for the same. Take a look at girls field hockey and lacrosse. Great academic, great athletic and a nice town with tight residents. Sorry, but most towns do not offer the all that. Oh yeah, the property taxes on a moderate house are very reasonable, plus they pick up your garbage cans from the side of your house and all you have to do is put your fall leaves on the curb and they go too, just don't park your car on the street past 2:00 AM or risk a ticket. Keeps the burglars away. See, it's a really nice place to live. If you like where you live, great, but we really love where we live.

Thankyou for the PSA from the GC Chamber of Commerce. You forgot to mention the 365 days of 75 degree weather, all the GC wives prepare a martini/dinner and are dressed in lingerie when their man comes home, and the children are all going ivy league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

For starters, I was being facetious, but with that being said, you should look at ALL the sports in GC, including Girls to get a true feel on just how good they are in just about every sport. They have been a football powerhouse for about 35 years, lacrosse powerhouse for the same. Take a look at girls field hockey and lacrosse. Great academic, great athletic and a nice town with tight residents. Sorry, but most towns do not offer the all that. Oh yeah, the property taxes on a moderate house are very reasonable, plus they pick up your garbage cans from the side of your house and all you have to do is put your fall leaves on the curb and they go too, just don't park your car on the street past 2:00 AM or risk a ticket. Keeps the burglars away. See, it's a really nice place to live. If you like where you live, great, but we really love where we live.

Thankyou for the PSA from the GC Chamber of Commerce. You forgot to mention the 365 days of 75 degree weather, all the GC wives prepare a martini/dinner and are dressed in lingerie when their man comes home, and the children are all going ivy league.

I have to mention that? I thought everyone just knew that, kind of like Christmas always being on the 25th of December!!

Glad to hear you are so happy in GC. Hopefully your happiness carries over to your life and persona and you make the world a better place to live in with your positive attitude.

Enough of the alternative Facts about Garden City - - - back to lacrosse, besides Oyster Bay, who represents Nassau County in the LIC?

A) Not Port
B) Not GC
C) CSH - The Best Team on LI
d) Oyster Bay

lingerie on the Rosie O'Donnell look alikes?
oh my....
have you ever sat in the Chammy stands? ouch!!!

Class warfare too. the have-NOTS trying to hang with the HAVES
Many different economic scales in GC. Ask the Mom's of teenage girls in GC. Many of the young women are NASTY

CSH Is CeSpool Headquarters
Should be in Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough of the alternative Facts about Garden City - - - back to lacrosse, besides Oyster Bay, who represents Nassau County in the LIC?

A) Not Port
B) Not GC
C) CSH - The Best Team on LI
d) Oyster Bay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually like the town GC, but just because GC Dad says its the best doesn't factually make it so and was just pointing some facts that refute his boastful claims. There are a few other towns out there that are sources of pride for for their residents as well and can hang their hats on more than their conference II football prowess...

For starters, I was being facetious, but with that being said, you should look at ALL the sports in GC, including Girls to get a true feel on just how good they are in just about every sport. They have been a football powerhouse for about 35 years, lacrosse powerhouse for the same. Take a look at girls field hockey and lacrosse. Great academic, great athletic and a nice town with tight residents. Sorry, but most towns do not offer the all that. Oh yeah, the property taxes on a moderate house are very reasonable, plus they pick up your garbage cans from the side of your house and all you have to do is put your fall leaves on the curb and they go too, just don't park your car on the street past 2:00 AM or risk a ticket. Keeps the burglars away. See, it's a really nice place to live. If you like where you live, great, but we really love where we live.

Thankyou for the PSA from the GC Chamber of Commerce. You forgot to mention the 365 days of 75 degree weather, all the GC wives prepare a martini/dinner and are dressed in lingerie when their man comes home, and the children are all going ivy league.

I have to mention that? I thought everyone just knew that, kind of like Christmas always being on the 25th of December!!

No cars on the street after 2' a.m. because the city-like towns that border the Village of GC will steal them..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad to hear you are so happy in GC. Hopefully your happiness carries over to your life and persona and you make the world a better place to live in with your positive attitude.

Well thanks! That's very UN-BOTC about you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class warfare too. the have-NOTS trying to hang with the HAVES
Many different economic scales in GC. Ask the Mom's of teenage girls in GC. Many of the young women are NASTY

Kind of like YOU? I can guarantee your disposition is more like that of a NASTY teenage girl than a man of character. And since you don't live in GC what are you basing this on? What you heard? Great job, you should get a job as a reporter for the Daily News.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lingerie on the Rosie O'Donnell look alikes?
oh my....
have you ever sat in the Chammy stands? ouch!!!

Ha ...your right...small little men with soft little hands.....ugly women.....im moving there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

No need to get it from Newsday.

Here it is from Dept of Education website link.

https://nationalblueribbonschools.ed.gov/awardwinners/index.php

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lingerie on the Rosie O'Donnell look alikes?
oh my....
have you ever sat in the Chammy stands? ouch!!!

Ha ...your right...small little men with soft little hands.....ugly women.....im moving there

I can guarantee your wives are absolutely and utterly offensive in both appearance and odor! Huge arms sticking out of huge t-shirts and the required sweat pants! And you, please, can only see the black sleeveless T-shirt stretched over your GIANT belly. Come on, you're a loser, as is your kid and wife!! Not get back to work or I'll fire YOU!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lingerie on the Rosie O'Donnell look alikes?
oh my....
have you ever sat in the Chammy stands? ouch!!!

Ha ...your right...small little men with soft little hands.....ugly women.....im moving there

Meanwhile on the education front....you fail! Next time scholar, try YOU'RE!! If you're this dumb, your wife must be a genius, and your kid, my gosh can he spell cat if you spot him the C & T? I think NOT!

I'm guessing the CSH editorial comment guy ("best team on LI") is not from csh... 99% certain. Thanks for stirring the pot though. Plenty of good teams on any given day...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm guessing the CSH editorial comment guy ("best team on LI") is not from csh... 99% certain. Thanks for stirring the pot though. Plenty of good teams on any given day...

Good call and correct, I am not from CSH and I do love to stir the pot but I do think that CSH was one of the top teams on LI last year and This year, IMHO CSH and SWR are the two top teams on LI with the edge going to CSH.

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

OK Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

Haven't been too impressive in the winter league

Their best D pole is in prep school.

Yeah because winter league really shows where you are .... you an idiot with that statement, winter is to just have the stick in your hand

So why do they take score?

Lets get back to hearing the GC guy transplanted from queens defending Gc...so much more entertaining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So why do they take score?

Did you mean why do they KEEP score?

Suffolk public school education in action.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to hearing the GC guy transplanted from queens defending Gc...so much more entertaining.

It's also fun to hear about PW being a contender in Class A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to hearing the GC guy transplanted from queens defending Gc...so much more entertaining.

I think you're melding multiple posts by different people into one . . .

Good for the Queens guy that has done really well for himself. Congrats Gc is a great town to live in. I have been there many times and it seems like a beautiful town to live in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So why do they take score?

TY - "Judge Smails, I don't keep score"

Judge Smails - "how do you measure yourself against other Laxers?

Ty " _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "

first person with the correct answer gets to bash GC, WI and CSH in a their next post

By height!

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Queens guy?? I think you have me mixed up with some other fella, no way. GC born and bred except for a few years away. Come on now! What do you want to hear about now? The valets we have everywhere? The complimentary maid service?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Queens guy?? I think you have me mixed up with some other fella, no way. GC born and bred except for a few years away. Come on now! What do you want to hear about now? The valets we have everywhere? The complimentary maid service?

Yea cmon....all the Rosie ODonnell look alike women

GC is Mastic..just without the boats in driveways..

WI has an A and B team for the winter. A is very good..B is mostly JV players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

Haven't been too impressive in the winter league

i'm pretty sure that the rosie look alikes are the chammy fans...alumni and spouses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i'm pretty sure that the rosie look alikes are the chammy fans...alumni and spouses

Unfortunately, on BOTC the jealous always rear their ugly heads. Now we'll see all the responses about never wanting to live there, how bad the people are, when in reality nothing is farther from the truth. The posters never lived here, but have "heard" all these terrible things from their friends, who definitely live there. But, never ever a positive thing to say about their own communities. Says a lot about where the haters live.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has an A and B team for the winter. A is very good..B is mostly JV players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

Haven't been too impressive in the winter league

I was talking about the A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

No need to get it from Newsday.

Here it is from Dept of Education website link.

https://nationalblueribbonschools.ed.gov/awardwinners/index.php

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

When you cite something, you should understand what it means. "Eligible schools must have been in existence for five years and cannot have received the award within the five prior years." If we use the Blue Ribbon Award as the standard, both districts (Garden City and Syosset) have done well having various of their schools (elementary, middle, and senior) being awarded a blue ribbon (5 years of 34 years for GC and 7 of 34 years for Syosset; remember a school can only be nominated once every five years); GC High has won the award 3 times and Syosset High 2 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their best D pole is in prep school.

Thanks, Dad. He would have gotten into a better school if he stayed and the best pole is a soph actually going to an Ivy. He just hasn't made a big deal about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their best D pole is in prep school.

Thanks, Dad. He would have gotten into a better school if he stayed and the best pole is a soph actually going to an Ivy. He just hasn't made a big deal about it.

Talking about Sophomores,

When the WI '19 group were younger they were a pretty fascinating strong group. Looking forward to seeing a few of them play and get their chance before Sr yr on Varsity.

Looking forward to seeing the '19's in general. Pequa, WI, GC, WM, Smith W were also strong in those early years. Do wish those that left BS to SJB & SA '19 & '20 stayed, would have added another solid team to that list above. Although I have to say WM probably takes the cake w their'20 goalie but WI and Smith W will give a close chase. HM to ESM who knows where B/C/D will be in 2 years. In Nassua, pequa lost key players to Cham and k'berg, still think they are the chief's of Nassau. Port Syo and Dalers who knows. GC although not A will be the best of the Nassau sorry. Hm to 'Set Wantaugh LB but like the east who know who will be in B/C/D

Only time will tell. Good luck boys we will all be watching to see who breaks out of the pack the next few years.

Pequa will be ok without Catholic School kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Queens guy?? I think you have me mixed up with some other fella, no way. GC born and bred except for a few years away. Come on now! What do you want to hear about now? The valets we have everywhere? The complimentary maid service?

A few years away? Where, up in the Big House?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their best D pole is in prep school.

Thanks, Dad. He would have gotten into a better school if he stayed and the best pole is a soph actually going to an Ivy. He just hasn't made a big deal about it.

Talking about Sophomores,

When the WI '19 group were younger they were a pretty fascinating strong group. Looking forward to seeing a few of them play and get their chance before Sr yr on Varsity.

Looking forward to seeing the '19's in general. Pequa, WI, GC, WM, Smith W were also strong in those early years. Do wish those that left BS to SJB & SA '19 & '20 stayed, would have added another solid team to that list above. Although I have to say WM probably takes the cake w their'20 goalie but WI and Smith W will give a close chase. HM to ESM who knows where B/C/D will be in 2 years. In Nassua, pequa lost key players to Cham and k'berg, still think they are the chief's of Nassau. Port Syo and Dalers who knows. GC although not A will be the best of the Nassau sorry. Hm to 'Set Wantaugh LB but like the east who know who will be in B/C/D

Only time will tell. Good luck boys we will all be watching to see who breaks out of the pack the next few years.

You are correct.... Massapequa are the Chiefs and Syosset are the Braves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i'm pretty sure that the rosie look alikes are the chammy fans...alumni and spouses

Except Rosie can get hotter (and younger) chicks

Don't forget about your queens roots though. Dad would be disappointed.

WI just won 11-0 on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has an A and B team for the winter. A is very good..B is mostly JV players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

Haven't been too impressive in the winter league

I was talking about the A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

No need to get it from Newsday.

Here it is from Dept of Education website link.

https://nationalblueribbonschools.ed.gov/awardwinners/index.php

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

It is quite impressive considering the size of the student population, SYO should be commended for that Blue Ribbon honor. 7 High Schools in NY, majority have student population below 1000, next closest 1515, also impressive.
Shouldn't diminish the what the school has accomplished, your school systems should strive to one day make the grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

No need to get it from Newsday.

Here it is from Dept of Education website link.

https://nationalblueribbonschools.ed.gov/awardwinners/index.php

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

When you cite something, you should understand what it means. "Eligible schools must have been in existence for five years and cannot have received the award within the five prior years." If we use the Blue Ribbon Award as the standard, both districts (Garden City and Syosset) have done well having various of their schools (elementary, middle, and senior) being awarded a blue ribbon (5 years of 34 years for GC and 7 of 34 years for Syosset; remember a school can only be nominated once every five years); GC High has won the award 3 times and Syosset High 2 times.

Thanks for helping me make the case for Syosset academics. Let's also remember that Syo beat GC in Lacrosse the past 2 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Gc goon. I just went to "look it up". The first measure I checked is spending per pupil by school district in nassau coun ty. The FIRST FOUR schools I looked at ALL spent significantly more per pupil than GC. (Syosset, Jericho, Manhasset and Cold Springs Harbor). That's just for starters...you brought the argument up so I'll be back on Monday with some other metrics refuting your claims. Its no wonder much of Nassau views you guys as blow hards...

No need to get it from Newsday.

Here it is from Dept of Education website link.

https://nationalblueribbonschools.ed.gov/awardwinners/index.php

Syosset HS won the Blue Ribbon Award in 2016... Look it up on Newsday. I didn't see GC mentioned.

Did u say Newsday ? I wouldn't listen to anything that "paper" says

When you cite something, you should understand what it means. "Eligible schools must have been in existence for five years and cannot have received the award within the five prior years." If we use the Blue Ribbon Award as the standard, both districts (Garden City and Syosset) have done well having various of their schools (elementary, middle, and senior) being awarded a blue ribbon (5 years of 34 years for GC and 7 of 34 years for Syosset; remember a school can only be nominated once every five years); GC High has won the award 3 times and Syosset High 2 times.

Thanks for helping me make the case for Syosset academics. Let's also remember that Syo beat GC in Lacrosse the past 2 years.

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Go back to the mid 80's and see GC records in lacrosse and compare them to Syosset's during the same 30 year period. That's 30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Go back to the mid 80's and see GC records in lacrosse and compare them to Syosset's during the same 30 year period. That's 30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse.

Must be as a result of all that inbreeding that occurs in GC. You are reliving your glory days pal. It's a brave new world now. You don't need to be a GC WASP anymore to be a good lacrosse player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI just won 11-0 on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has an A and B team for the winter. A is very good..B is mostly JV players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP do not under estimate that team

Haven't been too impressive in the winter league

I was talking about the A team.

Wow, beat Lindy. Let's see how you do against the other green and yellow team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Go back to the mid 80's and see GC records in lacrosse and compare them to Syosset's during the same 30 year period. That's 30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse.

Must be as a result of all that inbreeding that occurs in GC. You are reliving your glory days pal. It's a brave new world now. You don't need to be a GC WASP anymore to be a good lacrosse player.

You're a nasty woman pal! A nasty nasty woman! Did I insult your curbless dump? No, but you had to get personal, Go hug your kids jerk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Go back to the mid 80's and see GC records in lacrosse and compare them to Syosset's during the same 30 year period. That's 30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse.

way to take a nice post that was very nice and complimentary to GC and show how classless you are, at least Syosset kids are smart enough to not get caught smoking pot

You're so right, the inbreeding post was so complimentary. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot and learn to read. Very good of you to bring up teenagers smoking weed. You're a real man, if you're son is anything like you I feel awful for him. He is supposed to want to be just like his dad, guess you have the exception huh loser?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're so right, the inbreeding post was so complimentary. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot and learn to read. Very good of you to bring up teenagers smoking weed. You're a real man, if you're son is anything like you I feel awful for him. He is supposed to want to be just like his dad, guess you have the exception huh loser?

I am sure my kid has smoked pot (as well as mamy kids) and I have no problem with it as long as he isn't stupid enough to smoke at school or on a school sponsored event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're so right, the inbreeding post was so complimentary. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot and learn to read. Very good of you to bring up teenagers smoking weed. You're a real man, if you're son is anything like you I feel awful for him. He is supposed to want to be just like his dad, guess you have the exception huh loser?

I am sure my kid has smoked pot (as well as mamy kids) and I have no problem with it as long as he isn't stupid enough to smoke at school or on a school sponsored event

So teenagers are not entitled to make mistakes in your little world? You seem like the forgiving type.

GC guy...just stop. you are making you and your town look stupid. Go back to your middle class block party and enjoy it. I kno who I'm rooting for in the Woodstick...you don't see Manhasset guys on here touting all that is good with their community or having to constantly defend it. Let it be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're so right, the inbreeding post was so complimentary. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot and learn to read. Very good of you to bring up teenagers smoking weed. You're a real man, if you're son is anything like you I feel awful for him. He is supposed to want to be just like his dad, guess you have the exception huh loser?

I am sure my kid has smoked pot (as well as mamy kids) and I have no problem with it as long as he isn't stupid enough to smoke at school or on a school sponsored event

wow....now I have heard it all. OK for your kid to smoke pot and.....drive, etc. Sorry dude...your an idiot.

[quote=Anonymous]GC guy...just stop. you are making you and your town look stupid. Go back to your middle class block party and enjoy it. I kno who I'm rooting for in the Woodstick...you don't see Manhasset guys on here touting all that is good with their community or having to constantly defend it. Let it be. [/quo

I don't see anyone on here ripping Manhasset, and neither will I. But boy do you clowns get a hard on for GC. Why not tell me what problem you have with the town? And really do you think I care who you root for? Wow, you're going to root for Manhasset, hold on while I dry my tears, what a clown. You make yourself look like an un educated moron.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're so right, the inbreeding post was so complimentary. Maybe YOU should stop smoking pot and learn to read. Very good of you to bring up teenagers smoking weed. You're a real man, if you're son is anything like you I feel awful for him. He is supposed to want to be just like his dad, guess you have the exception huh loser?

I am sure my kid has smoked pot (as well as mamy kids) and I have no problem with it as long as he isn't stupid enough to smoke at school or on a school sponsored event

wow....now I have heard it all. OK for your kid to smoke pot and.....drive, etc. Sorry dude...your an idiot.

how did that go from smoking pot to driving while smoking pot? besides, I would rather have a stoner in the right lane going 40 then a drunk in the left lane going 80

I don't really care what I look like to you and my education has worked out just fine. Keep defending though you desperate imp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset vs GC have played annually since 2008 with GC holding a 6-3 edge and outscoring the larder school 68-44. Make it another win this year for GC who can brag about a .700 winning pct against the town who has and never will win a state championship but loves to tell anyone with ears how could their mediocre kids are at lacrosse.

The Syosset V Garden City game has opened the season for both schools for the past nine years, it seems to always be a pretty low scoring affair for two normally high scoring teams and as you pointed out they only are averaging 12.44 goals a game combined and it is also usually very cold, I would love to see them play at the end of the year just like I would love to see CSH, MASS, MAN all play each other in May, when it's nice out and teams have jelled - all that being said, they have been two consistently competitive teams in that time, both have produced some excellent HS and College players and both are excellent academic schools. No need to make oneself feel better about oneself by putting the other school down as both are excellent.

Go back to the mid 80's and see GC records in lacrosse and compare them to Syosset's during the same 30 year period. That's 30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse.

Must be as a result of all that inbreeding that occurs in GC. You are reliving your glory days pal. It's a brave new world now. You don't need to be a GC WASP anymore to be a good lacrosse player.

You're a nasty woman pal! A nasty nasty woman! Did I insult your curbless dump? No, but you had to get personal, Go hug your kids jerk.

Well.... How else can you explain "30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't really care what I look like to you and my education has worked out just fine. Keep defending though you desperate imp.

You look like a pathetic excuse for a father. I am embarrassed for your son and I don't even know the poor lad. He is probably horrified every time you show up at his games. Best bet is you apologize to him now for the psycho therapy he'll have to endure as an adult.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well.... How else can you explain "30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse"?

Good athletes, good coaching, good youth programs, supportive administration, parents that played the game that can teach at the young levels, a desirable town to live in for the beauty as well as excellent education?????? wait, we are talking about Cold Spring Harbor correct? once again this year CSH will be the best HS team on Long Island.....GC? not so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well.... How else can you explain "30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse"?

Good athletes, good coaching, good youth programs, supportive administration, parents that played the game that can teach at the young levels, a desirable town to live in for the beauty as well as excellent education?????? wait, we are talking about Cold Spring Harbor correct? once again this year CSH will be the best HS team on Long Island.....GC? not so much

Enjoy it until u lose to SWR in the LIC!

GC should be in A conference. just by size of the student body. much bigger town than other schools in same conference
lets see what the 30 year track would look like if you were in the proper conference

across all sports too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well.... How else can you explain "30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse"?

Good athletes, good coaching, good youth programs, supportive administration, parents that played the game that can teach at the young levels, a desirable town to live in for the beauty as well as excellent education?????? wait, we are talking about Cold Spring Harbor correct? once again this year CSH will be the best HS team on Long Island.....GC? not so much

Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later.

GC half the enrollment of Farmingdale or Port Washington. What is your point?

Yeah and GC is twice the size of current conference enrollments
you bragging about your history for 30 years. so step you to big boy conference or continue beating up on smaller opponents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC half the enrollment of Farmingdale or Port Washington. What is your point?

this poster must no idea how the conferences are set up. its simply done by enrollment . not the square miles in a district. scary how dumb this mommy is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC should be in A conference. just by size of the student body. much bigger town than other schools in same conference
lets see what the 30 year track would look like if you were in the proper conference

across all sports too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well.... How else can you explain "30 years of consistently excellent lacrosse"?

Good athletes, good coaching, good youth programs, supportive administration, parents that played the game that can teach at the young levels, a desirable town to live in for the beauty as well as excellent education?????? wait, we are talking about Cold Spring Harbor correct? once again this year CSH will be the best HS team on Long Island.....GC? not so much

The girls varsity from GC has been in the power conference for years for soccer, fh & lax and always does well. I'm sure the boys would too if the set up was the same.

Syosset enrollment is..............2500
Garden City enrollment .............1100
Farmingdale.........................1900
Massapequa..........................1800
CSH.................................1000
Elmont..............................1800
Macarthur...........................1300

Anything else to compare? Know your facts before you spout nonsense Nasty Woman!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later.

Don't need to hug myself, my kids do it for me!! I know that sounds foreign to you. You said it all, putting your $$ towards lax training and PED's!! You're a real winner! Trust me you are setting up Junior for major problems in the future, get him help now!! He'll turn out just like you!! An unemployed bottom feeder! Please, before he's like you, get him HELP!

As of the 2014-15 school year, the school had an enrollment of 1,187 students and 97.1 classroom teachers (on an FTE basis), for a student�teacher ratio of 12.2:1. There were 24 students (2.0% of enrollment) eligible for free lunch and 3 (0.3% of students) eligible for reduced-cost lunch.[3]

In 2016 Garden City High School was ranked the #121 school in the Nation.

US News 2016 Rankings

Garden City High School is ranked #121 in the National Rankings and #18 in New [lacrosse] State, they also earned a gold medal. Schools are ranked based on their performance on state-required tests and how well they prepare students for college

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News 2016 Rankings

Garden City High School is ranked #121 in the National Rankings and #18 in New [lacrosse] State, they also earned a gold medal. Schools are ranked based on their performance on state-required tests and how well they prepare students for college

Straw man argument that means nothing. Nobody cares...but answer this...how many lax players are winning these awards. You sound like the type of person to take credit for something you haven't done yourself.

"Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later."

"Don't need to hug myself, my kids do it for me!! I know that sounds foreign to you. You said it all, putting your $$ towards lax training and PED's!! You're a real winner! Trust me you are setting up Junior for major problems in the future, get him help now!! He'll turn out just like you!! An unemployed bottom feeder! Please, before he's like you, get him HELP!"

Somebody take the hook out of this guys mouth. Its too easy to mess with him. GCGCGCGCGCGCGC. LOL. Total Bafoon.

For almost the last two decades the best B & C schools have beaten the Nassau A champion with maybe three exceptions...nex argument please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News 2016 Rankings

Garden City High School is ranked #121 in the National Rankings and #18 in New [lacrosse] State, they also earned a gold medal. Schools are ranked based on their performance on state-required tests and how well they prepare students for college

Straw man argument that means nothing. Nobody cares...but answer this...how many lax players are winning these awards. You sound like the type of person to take credit for something you haven't done yourself.

This is in response to how good the school is. Now explain to me, how do you come to the conclusion that I am the type to take credit for others accomplishments? Or are you just lashing out because all you're BS was proven to be alternative facts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News 2016 Rankings

Garden City High School is ranked #121 in the National Rankings and #18 in New [lacrosse] State, they also earned a gold medal. Schools are ranked based on their performance on state-required tests and how well they prepare students for college

Straw man argument that means nothing. Nobody cares...but answer this...how many lax players are winning these awards. You sound like the type of person to take credit for something you haven't done yourself.

GCHS has 21 seniors committed to play D1 sports. Most, but not all, are for lax. And the lax players at GC are winning those awards - their admissions to several Ivies and top ranked schools - Princeton, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Harvard and West Point to name just a few confirms this.

I'M EMPLOYED. I'M A GC MAN. YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEEK.

I am sure you are employed, I just hope it isn't as an English Teacher

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'M EMPLOYED. I'M A GC MAN. YOU ARE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEEK.

Sorry to see you're not working, have no fear, President DJT is creating tons of jobs. He's expanding the Border Patrol, you'll look great in green standing in southern New Mexico! Not sure they have lacrosse down there though. Oh well, you'll adjust. And, uh it's WEAK, not week. Bet you listened to your foster parents when they told you to stay in HS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later."

"Don't need to hug myself, my kids do it for me!! I know that sounds foreign to you. You said it all, putting your $$ towards lax training and PED's!! You're a real winner! Trust me you are setting up Junior for major problems in the future, get him help now!! He'll turn out just like you!! An unemployed bottom feeder! Please, before he's like you, get him HELP!"

Somebody take the hook out of this guys mouth. Its too easy to mess with him. GCGCGCGCGCGCGC. LOL. Total Bafoon.

Agree.

This must be the same idiot up in the stands at GC Lax games with the really BIG mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later."

"Don't need to hug myself, my kids do it for me!! I know that sounds foreign to you. You said it all, putting your $$ towards lax training and PED's!! You're a real winner! Trust me you are setting up Junior for major problems in the future, get him help now!! He'll turn out just like you!! An unemployed bottom feeder! Please, before he's like you, get him HELP!"

Somebody take the hook out of this guys mouth. Its too easy to mess with him. GCGCGCGCGCGCGC. LOL. Total Bafoon.

Agree.

This must be the same idiot up in the stands at GC Lax games with the really BIG mouth.

What's a BAFOON? And no I don't carry on like you guys at my son's games. And who is this mystery BIG mouth at the GC games? Never saw nor heard him. Seems to me you're a BS artist. Nice try though, and like you I'll respond like a 14 year old girl "LOL"

What would u call a lot 6?

[quote=Anonymous]GC should be in A conference. just by size of the student body. much bigger town than other schools in same conference
lets see what the 30 year track would look like if you were in the proper conference

across all sports too[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Conferences are by enrollment numbers and done by the State. Garden City is 23rd largest of all Section 8 schools. Class B HS enrollment ranges from 790 -1074. Garden City is at 835.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset enrollment is..............2500
Garden City enrollment .............1100
Farmingdale.........................1900
Massapequa..........................1800
CSH.................................1000
Elmont..............................1800
Macarthur...........................1300

Anything else to compare? Know your facts before you spout nonsense Nasty Woman!

Nasty Woman is wrong but so are you. Here are the real numbers.
http://www.nysphsaa.org/ADs-Coaches/Classifications

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Give yourself a hug imp man. I'll do the same for my son. Skipping the psycho therapy though--putting all that money towards lax training and performance enhancement so he won't need the therapy later."

"Don't need to hug myself, my kids do it for me!! I know that sounds foreign to you. You said it all, putting your $$ towards lax training and PED's!! You're a real winner! Trust me you are setting up Junior for major problems in the future, get him help now!! He'll turn out just like you!! An unemployed bottom feeder! Please, before he's like you, get him HELP!"

Somebody take the hook out of this guys mouth. Its too easy to mess with him. GCGCGCGCGCGCGC. LOL. Total Bafoon.

Agree.

This must be the same idiot up in the stands at GC Lax games with the really BIG mouth.

What's a BAFOON? And no I don't carry on like you guys at my son's games. And who is this mystery BIG mouth at the GC games? Never saw nor heard him. Seems to me you're a BS artist. Nice try though, and like you I'll respond like a 14 year old girl "LOL"

If you are at a game and you don't know who the loudmouth idiot is within the first 10 minutes, its likely YOU!

Sorry, unlike your hometown no loud mouth jerks at mine, oh well too bad you live in a cesspool.PpXxCa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Lighten up Clarence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For almost the last two decades the best B & C schools have beaten the Nassau A champion with maybe three exceptions...nex argument please.

Not counting the last 6 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure you are employed, I just hope it isn't as an English Teacher

If he is a GC man I'm sure he is employed. Most likely a civil service worker.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

Yup proved my point, won't say where you're from. Embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

In 2012 they were the best team in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup proved my point, won't say where you're from. Embarrassed.

I'll give you a few hints...

1) It's on Long Island
2) it has sidewalks and curbs
3) is more ethnically diverse than GC
3) has better lacrosse than GC

Do you need anymore hints?? Probably, because that describes a whole bunch of places.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup proved my point, won't say where you're from. Embarrassed.

Are you still flapping your gums SNOWFLAKE. Hows that little GC 2 bedroom/1 bath shack. You still hiding in your little safe space

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

In 2012 they were the best team in the country.

you are right - I stand corrected...

I assume you are taking your info from Laxpower.

So let's look at more recent data points as well:

2012 - 1st
2013 - 4th
2014 - 51st
2015 - 88th
2016 - 120th

Interesting trend for such a vaunted program.

Any predictions for 2017?

Where are you from? What did your program rank? Let's talk facts. Instead of trading nonsense tell everyone your program's success rate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

In 2012 they were the best team in the country.

you are right - I stand corrected...

I assume you are taking your info from Laxpower.

So let's look at more recent data points as well:

2012 - 1st
2013 - 4th
2014 - 51st
2015 - 88th
2016 - 120th

Interesting trend for such a vaunted program.

Any predictions for 2017?

Are those national rankings? Because that's pretty damn good for ANY program. Where did Syosset and CSH rank during those same years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

In 2012 they were the best team in the country.

you are right - I stand corrected...

I assume you are taking your info from Laxpower.

So let's look at more recent data points as well:

2012 - 1st
2013 - 4th
2014 - 51st
2015 - 88th
2016 - 120th

Interesting trend for such a vaunted program.

Any predictions for 2017?

Do any of the Wall Street Wizards notice a correlation with any changes to the way the garden city lacrosse program has been run over the past five or six years (youth -HS)? What changed ? What has led to such a downward trend?

Yeah everyone is crushed by those National rankings

So what caused such a marked decline? And what does the future hold for GC? Inform us Nostradamus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what caused such a marked decline? And what does the future hold for GC? Inform us Nostradamus.

Sorry, cant predict the future. However, inbreeding has been proven to [lacrosse] and restrictive practices rarely lead to greater development.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

buffoon
(bəˈ[lacrosse]ːn)
n
1. a person who amuses others by ridiculous or odd behaviour, jokes, etc

2. a foolish person

3. Any person from Garden City

Where you from? Bet you're too embarrassed to say

Well, suffix to say not the hallowed ground of GC that has been pretty fallow the past 6 years. I was thinking to move there a while back but the lacrosse was mediocre.

In 2012 they were the best team in the country.

you are right - I stand corrected...

I assume you are taking your info from Laxpower.

So let's look at more recent data points as well:

2012 - 1st
2013 - 4th
2014 - 51st
2015 - 88th
2016 - 120th

Interesting trend for such a vaunted program.

Any predictions for 2017?

The 2017 team will do just fine. Thanks for asking.

you need a punch in the face

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what caused such a marked decline? And what does the future hold for GC? Inform us Nostradamus.

Sorry, cant predict the future. However, inbreeding has been proven to [lacrosse] and restrictive practices rarely lead to greater development.

So says the guy who never played, but knows everything because his son plays at Bellmore JFK, and they don't win much, but if his son played at GC (HAHAHA) he would be awesome. Just so you get it, you're son sucks at lacrosse, and wouldn't even make the JV at GC because he well....sucks!

I mean the person who posted about inbreeding thinking it was funny or clever to bring in mental disabilities.
fine if you don't like a town but really....

"So says the guy who never played, but knows everything because his son plays at Bellmore JFK, and they don't win much, but if his son played at GC (HAHAHA) he would be awesome. Just so you get it, you're son sucks at lacrosse, and wouldn't even make the JV at GC because he well....sucks!"

Whoever wrote the above is truly dumb as a box of rocks-regardless of what town you are originally from, currently live in or will be moving to a step down the ladder when your income catches up with your lack of intelligence. How could you possibly know anything about this posters son??? you are grasping...let it go. Focus on your work so you'll be able to send your kid to college and not foot him with the bill...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I mean the person who posted about inbreeding thinking it was funny or clever to bring in mental disabilities.
fine if you don't like a town but really....

Don't think the poster was intending to make fun of individuals with any type of disability. I read it as an attempt to illustrate that the restrictive and incestuous nature of the garden city lacrosse program has resulted in a decline or lack of progress. Keeping your best players from competing with and against the best competition will [lacrosse] their growth and development. If you do not allow you best to reach their full potential it will negatively impact the team/program.

([lacrosse] - Delay or hold back in terms of progress, development or accomplishment.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"So says the guy who never played, but knows everything because his son plays at Bellmore JFK, and they don't win much, but if his son played at GC (HAHAHA) he would be awesome. Just so you get it, you're son sucks at lacrosse, and wouldn't even make the JV at GC because he well....sucks!"

Whoever wrote the above is truly dumb as a box of rocks-regardless of what town you are originally from, currently live in or will be moving to a step down the ladder when your income catches up with your lack of intelligence. How could you possibly know anything about this posters son??? you are grasping...let it go. Focus on your work so you'll be able to send your kid to college and not foot him with the bill...

You need to read some previous posts. Or you are the poster who is dropping nasty comments, now its about you and it's not funny. Don't start what you cant finish! I'm doing fabulous, I have no worries at all. As a matter of fact it keeps getting better. Kids are great, lacrosse is great, I have no complaints. And I stated as such, with humor, but typical of BOTC, jealous morons cant help themselves and have to slam others. So too damn bad. Now I'll get nasty, and if you don't like it, don't read it. Don't care

ooooh nasty web posting guy. no, please; keep me laughing. I don't even understand what your above rant is specifically referencing. laugh it up fuzzball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ooooh nasty web posting guy. no, please; keep me laughing. I don't even understand what your above rant is specifically referencing. laugh it up fuzzball.

Again, read the posts before you decide to comment. but I guess you posted without reading anything. So not sure what you're commenting on, but you don't understand so you throw out an insult, like the guy I was referencing. Meaning youre as much of a moron as him.

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

What's a fuzzball?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I mean the person who posted about inbreeding thinking it was funny or clever to bring in mental disabilities.
fine if you don't like a town but really....

Don't think the poster was intending to make fun of individuals with any type of disability. I read it as an attempt to illustrate that the restrictive and incestuous nature of the garden city lacrosse program has resulted in a decline or lack of progress. Keeping your best players from competing with and against the best competition will [lacrosse] their growth and development. If you do not allow you best to reach their full potential it will negatively impact the team/program.

([lacrosse] - Delay or hold back in terms of progress, development or accomplishment.)

How is GC keeping its best players from competing with and against the best competition? Please elaborate. You lost me on this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ooooh nasty web posting guy. no, please; keep me laughing. I don't even understand what your above rant is specifically referencing. laugh it up fuzzball.

Says the guy who doesn't know how to use online forums so others know who he is replying to . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Really? That's your issue??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Really? That's your issue??!

I think it might have been a snarky reply to the original joke post. I also think the moderators need to do some extreme vetting on sarcastic posts so the common folk can understand. Personally I hate that Port/Schreiber is so far north that it takes forever to get there.

Pretty simple - GCHS coach makes(strongly recommends) his players play for the GC club program. The teams never play the best Express or 91 teams or other top clubs for that matter. The GC teams typically have a decent first 10 but no depth. The best players are not fighting for playing time. They are not playing against the top players. GC has been doing this for 5 or so years and the GCHS program has faltered. It is similar to W. Islip. Both schools remain competitive but clearly not as dominate as they have been. Both schools will always compete at the high school level due to the strong youth programs but can't compete at the club level. Early recruiting makes this model pretty difficult to succeed as clubs will continue to grab the best players and the early commits leaving the town kids out to hang.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Really? That's your issue??!

I think it might have been a snarky reply to the original joke post. I also think the moderators need to do some extreme vetting on sarcastic posts so the common folk can understand. Personally I hate that Port/Schreiber is so far north that it takes forever to get there.

Moderators attempted extreme vetting but found that too many SNOWFLAKES began whimpering/crying (see Schumer) .....and since nobody cares about Port the vetting was dropped.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderators attempted extreme vetting but found that too many SNOWFLAKES began whimpering/crying (see Schumer) .....and since nobody cares about Port the vetting was dropped.

takes a special kind of anonymous poster to turn a lighthearted yet stupid thread and try repeatedly to make it political and insulting. we get it, your superior because you use CAPITAL letters in your insults - my guess is that your small hands are a perfect match for your small _ _ _ _ SNOWFLAKE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderators attempted extreme vetting but found that too many SNOWFLAKES began whimpering/crying (see Schumer) .....and since nobody cares about Port the vetting was dropped.

takes a special kind of anonymous poster to turn a lighthearted yet stupid thread and try repeatedly to make it political and insulting. we get it, your superior because you use CAPITAL letters in your insults - my guess is that your small hands are a perfect match for your small _ _ _ _ SNOWFLAKE

There are a lot of snowflakes outside today. I think the most snowflakes are in the GC area however. I think at least 21.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

There are other High Schools that go by other names than the school district name itself, so Port is not the only one.

NASSAU COUNTY BOYS LACROSSE CHAMPIONS BY SCHOOL

GARDEN CITY (20): 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016

Long Island Championships
GARDEN CITY (13) 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

NYS Championships

Garden City 9 appearances 6 wins 3 losses .666 last win 2013 last loss 2011

please let us know if its the only one!!! its critical to find that out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

Port Jefferson is the same. School is actually Earl L Vandermeulen HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

I think it is the only one. Mepham doesn't put North Bellmore on it's jerseys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderators attempted extreme vetting but found that too many SNOWFLAKES began whimpering/crying (see Schumer) .....and since nobody cares about Port the vetting was dropped.

takes a special kind of anonymous poster to turn a lighthearted yet stupid thread and try repeatedly to make it political and insulting. we get it, your superior because you use CAPITAL letters in your insults - my guess is that your small hands are a perfect match for your small _ _ _ _ SNOWFLAKE

There are a lot of snowflakes outside today. I think the most snowflakes are in the GC area however. I think at least 21.

I have no idea what you are referring to. What does it mean? Who is a snowflake?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

There are other High Schools that go by other names than the school district name itself, so Port is not the only one.

Which ones?

Below are the schedules for several strong LI teams.
Which team has the hardest schedule?

Chaminade
22-Mar Massapequa
25-Mar vs McDonogh
29-Mar Iona Prep
5-Apr St Anthony's
8-Apr at Ward Melville
12-Apr Fairfield Prep
18-Apr Saint Ignatius Prep
22-Apr at Yorktown
29-Apr Greenwich HS
6-May Manhasset
9-May at St John Baptist
13-May at Delbarton
18-May at St Anthony's

St. Anthony
28-Mar at Manhasset
1-Apr at Greenwich HS
5-Apr at Chaminade
11-Apr at Boys' Latin
15-Apr Delbarton
20-Apr at Iona Prep
29-Apr at Yorktown
2-May at St John Baptist
4-May Darien
6-May New Canaan
9-May Kellenberg Memorial
13-May Staples-Westport
18-May Chaminade

Manhassett
24-Mar Commack
28-Mar St Anthony's
30-Mar at John Jay-Cross River
1-Apr at Lincoln-Sudbury
5-Apr at Calhoun
8-Apr Mepham
15-Apr Darien
18-Apr Long Beach
21-Apr Wantagh
26-Apr at Hewlett
29-Apr Garden City
2-May Carey
5-May South Side
6-May at Chaminade
9-May at New Hyde Park

Garden City
21-Mar at Syosset
25-Mar at Smithtown West
1-Apr Mepham
5-Apr at Carey
8-Apr vs Salesianum
13-Apr at Long Beach
15-Apr Duxbury
19-Apr vs Saint Ignatius Prep
21-Apr at South Side
26-Apr New Hyde Park
29-Apr at Manhasset
2-May Hewlett
5-May at Calhoun
6-May at Shoreham-Wading River
10-May Wantagh

Smithtown West
22-Mar Cold Spring Harbor
25-Mar Garden City
28-Mar Half Hollow Hills East
30-Mar at Walt Whitman
5-Apr at Commack
7-Apr William Floyd
11-Apr at Smithtown East
19-Apr at Lindenhurst
21-Apr Ward Melville
25-Apr Sachem North
27-Apr West Islip
29-Apr at Connetquot
3-May Huntington
5-May Bay Shore
9-May at Northport
11-May at Sachem East

Ward Melville
28-Mar Huntington
30-Mar at Lindenhurst
5-Apr at Northport
7-Apr Riverhead
8-Apr Chaminade
11-Apr West Islip
15-Apr Lincoln-Sudbury
19-Apr at Walt Whitman
21-Apr at Smithtown West
25-Apr Bay Shore
27-Apr Smithtown East
29-Apr at Sachem East
3-May Half Hollow Hills East
5-May Sachem North
9-May at Commack
11-May at Connetquot

Smithtown East
25-Mar at John Jay-Cross River
28-Mar Commack
30-Mar at Middle Country
5-Apr at Half Hollow Hills East
7-Apr Walt Whitman
11-Apr Smithtown West
15-Apr Massapequa
19-Apr at Riverhead
21-Apr at West Islip
25-Apr Sachem East
27-Apr at Ward Melville
29-Apr Bay Shore
3-May Northport
5-May Connetquot
9-May at Huntington
11-May at Sachem North

Shoreham Wading River
29-Mar at Harborfields
31-Mar Islip
4-Apr at East Islip
6-Apr Eastport/South Manor
12-Apr at John Glenn - Elwood
15-Apr at Pleasantville
18-Apr Sayville
20-Apr at Bayport-Blue Point
22-Apr Comsewogue
26-Apr Rocky Point
28-Apr at Half Hollow Hills West
2-May West Babylon
4-May at Miller Place
6-May Garden City
8-May Westhampton Beach
10-May at Mount Sinai

Syosset
21-Mar Garden City
23-Mar at South Side
25-Mar Northport
28-Mar Cold Spring Harbor
31-Mar Oceanside
5-Apr at Plainview JFK
6-Apr Hicksville
19-Apr at Freeport
20-Apr at Baldwin
22-Apr at Emmaus
25-Apr at Farmingdale
28-Apr Massapequa
2-May Port Washington
5-May East Meadow
11-May at Valley Stream Central

Farmingdale
21-Mar at Lynbrook
25-Mar West Islip
28-Mar at Carey
31-Mar at East Meadow
4-Apr Valley Stream Central
7-Apr Hempstead
8-Apr Long Beach
13-Apr Pleasantville
18-Apr at Oceanside
21-Apr at Massapequa
25-Apr Syosset
29-Apr Port Washington
2-May at Baldwin
5-May Plainview JFK
11-May at Hicksville

Massapequa
22-Mar at Chaminade
24-Mar St Thomas Aquinas
28-Mar Kellenberg Memorial
31-Mar Plainview JFK
5-Apr at Uniondale
7-Apr East Meadow
10-Apr Carey
15-Apr at Smithtown East
19-Apr at Hicksville
21-Apr Farmingdale
25-Apr at Baldwin
28-Apr at Syosset
2-May at Oceanside
5-May Port Washington
11-May Freeport

Cold Spring Harbor
22-Mar at Smithtown West
28-Mar at Syosset
31-Mar at South Side
4-Apr at Oyster Bay
7-Apr at Bethpage
10-Apr at New Canaan
12-Apr at John Jay-Cross River
15-Apr Huntington
19-Apr Floral Park
22-Apr at North Shore
28-Apr Locust Valley
29-Apr at Mineola
3-May Seaford
6-May Greenwich HS
10-May Lynbrook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty simple - GCHS coach makes(strongly recommends) his players play for the GC club program. The teams never play the best Express or 91 teams or other top clubs for that matter. The GC teams typically have a decent first 10 but no depth. The best players are not fighting for playing time. They are not playing against the top players. GC has been doing this for 5 or so years and the GCHS program has faltered. It is similar to W. Islip. Both schools remain competitive but clearly not as dominate as they have been. Both schools will always compete at the high school level due to the strong youth programs but can't compete at the club level. Early recruiting makes this model pretty difficult to succeed as clubs will continue to grab the best players and the early commits leaving the town kids out to hang.

The only folks that care more about club ball are the ones who do not have a strong high school program. Will anyone care how many t-shirts they won during the bloated summer season 10 years from now? Or will they remember for the rest of their lives the County, Island and possibly State championship they won with their classmates representing their town and high school. As for recruiting, there are quite a few early commits coming out of GC for this group.

Move along.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NASSAU COUNTY BOYS LACROSSE CHAMPIONS BY SCHOOL

GARDEN CITY (20): 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016

Long Island Championships
GARDEN CITY (13) 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

NYS Championships

Garden City 9 appearances 6 wins 3 losses .666 last win 2013 last loss 2011

Dude, you are like a wind-up toy... Give it a break.

GC is the greatest program of all time. Do you feel better now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Is that really a big deal?

Not really a complaint, I was just always curious why it's (I think) the only school/town like this on Long Island.

There are other High Schools that go by other names than the school district name itself, so Port is not the only one.

Which ones?

middle country

Chaminade by far the hardest schedule with St A's number two - public schools play have too many cupcakes on the schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade by far the hardest schedule with St A's number two - public schools play have too many cupcakes on the schedule

Not really their fault though. The public schools have a limited number of open OOC slots.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can't we all just get along and talk about what we all have in common instead of our differences? like trashing Baltimore, trashing reclassification and trashing Port Washington?

Port Washington, the Garden City of the new millennium.

My complaint about Port Washington: Everyone refers to the school as "Schreiber" (the name of the high school) but the athletic teams as "Port." It doesn't make any sense.

Really? That's your issue??!

I think it might have been a snarky reply to the original joke post. I also think the moderators need to do some extreme vetting on sarcastic posts so the common folk can understand. Personally I hate that Port/Schreiber is so far north that it takes forever to get there.

Yes, but there is a Smash Burger 20 feet from the field. What's better than that. Take a nice drive up Searingtown Rd, get a burger and then watch ur HS Team thrash PW, Err Schreiber. That's a great afternoon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NASSAU COUNTY BOYS LACROSSE CHAMPIONS BY SCHOOL

GARDEN CITY (20): 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016

Long Island Championships
GARDEN CITY (13) 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

NYS Championships

Garden City 9 appearances 6 wins 3 losses .666 last win 2013 last loss 2011

Dude, you are like a wind-up toy... Give it a break.

GC is the greatest program of all time. Do you feel better now?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Below are the schedules for several strong LI teams.
Which team has the hardest schedule?

Chaminade
22-Mar Massapequa
25-Mar vs McDonogh
29-Mar Iona Prep
5-Apr St Anthony's
8-Apr at Ward Melville
12-Apr Fairfield Prep
18-Apr Saint Ignatius Prep
22-Apr at Yorktown
29-Apr Greenwich HS
6-May Manhasset
9-May at St John Baptist
13-May at Delbarton
18-May at St Anthony's

St. Anthony
28-Mar at Manhasset
1-Apr at Greenwich HS
5-Apr at Chaminade
11-Apr at Boys' Latin
15-Apr Delbarton
20-Apr at Iona Prep
29-Apr at Yorktown
2-May at St John Baptist
4-May Darien
6-May New Canaan
9-May Kellenberg Memorial
13-May Staples-Westport
18-May Chaminade

Manhassett
24-Mar Commack
28-Mar St Anthony's
30-Mar at John Jay-Cross River
1-Apr at Lincoln-Sudbury
5-Apr at Calhoun
8-Apr Mepham
15-Apr Darien
18-Apr Long Beach
21-Apr Wantagh
26-Apr at Hewlett
29-Apr Garden City
2-May Carey
5-May South Side
6-May at Chaminade
9-May at New Hyde Park

Garden City
21-Mar at Syosset
25-Mar at Smithtown West
1-Apr Mepham
5-Apr at Carey
8-Apr vs Salesianum
13-Apr at Long Beach
15-Apr Duxbury
19-Apr vs Saint Ignatius Prep
21-Apr at South Side
26-Apr New Hyde Park
29-Apr at Manhasset
2-May Hewlett
5-May at Calhoun
6-May at Shoreham-Wading River
10-May Wantagh

Smithtown West
22-Mar Cold Spring Harbor
25-Mar Garden City
28-Mar Half Hollow Hills East
30-Mar at Walt Whitman
5-Apr at Commack
7-Apr William Floyd
11-Apr at Smithtown East
19-Apr at Lindenhurst
21-Apr Ward Melville
25-Apr Sachem North
27-Apr West Islip
29-Apr at Connetquot
3-May Huntington
5-May Bay Shore
9-May at Northport
11-May at Sachem East

Ward Melville
28-Mar Huntington
30-Mar at Lindenhurst
5-Apr at Northport
7-Apr Riverhead
8-Apr Chaminade
11-Apr West Islip
15-Apr Lincoln-Sudbury
19-Apr at Walt Whitman
21-Apr at Smithtown West
25-Apr Bay Shore
27-Apr Smithtown East
29-Apr at Sachem East
3-May Half Hollow Hills East
5-May Sachem North
9-May at Commack
11-May at Connetquot

Smithtown East
25-Mar at John Jay-Cross River
28-Mar Commack
30-Mar at Middle Country
5-Apr at Half Hollow Hills East
7-Apr Walt Whitman
11-Apr Smithtown West
15-Apr Massapequa
19-Apr at Riverhead
21-Apr at West Islip
25-Apr Sachem East
27-Apr at Ward Melville
29-Apr Bay Shore
3-May Northport
5-May Connetquot
9-May at Huntington
11-May at Sachem North

Shoreham Wading River
29-Mar at Harborfields
31-Mar Islip
4-Apr at East Islip
6-Apr Eastport/South Manor
12-Apr at John Glenn - Elwood
15-Apr at Pleasantville
18-Apr Sayville
20-Apr at Bayport-Blue Point
22-Apr Comsewogue
26-Apr Rocky Point
28-Apr at Half Hollow Hills West
2-May West Babylon
4-May at Miller Place
6-May Garden City
8-May Westhampton Beach
10-May at Mount Sinai

Syosset
21-Mar Garden City
23-Mar at South Side
25-Mar Northport
28-Mar Cold Spring Harbor
31-Mar Oceanside
5-Apr at Plainview JFK
6-Apr Hicksville
19-Apr at Freeport
20-Apr at Baldwin
22-Apr at Emmaus
25-Apr at Farmingdale
28-Apr Massapequa
2-May Port Washington
5-May East Meadow
11-May at Valley Stream Central

Farmingdale
21-Mar at Lynbrook
25-Mar West Islip
28-Mar at Carey
31-Mar at East Meadow
4-Apr Valley Stream Central
7-Apr Hempstead
8-Apr Long Beach
13-Apr Pleasantville
18-Apr at Oceanside
21-Apr at Massapequa
25-Apr Syosset
29-Apr Port Washington
2-May at Baldwin
5-May Plainview JFK
11-May at Hicksville

Massapequa
22-Mar at Chaminade
24-Mar St Thomas Aquinas
28-Mar Kellenberg Memorial
31-Mar Plainview JFK
5-Apr at Uniondale
7-Apr East Meadow
10-Apr Carey
15-Apr at Smithtown East
19-Apr at Hicksville
21-Apr Farmingdale
25-Apr at Baldwin
28-Apr at Syosset
2-May at Oceanside
5-May Port Washington
11-May Freeport

Cold Spring Harbor
22-Mar at Smithtown West
28-Mar at Syosset
31-Mar at South Side
4-Apr at Oyster Bay
7-Apr at Bethpage
10-Apr at New Canaan
12-Apr at John Jay-Cross River
15-Apr Huntington
19-Apr Floral Park
22-Apr at North Shore
28-Apr Locust Valley
29-Apr at Mineola
3-May Seaford
6-May Greenwich HS
10-May Lynbrook

Tough to compare Private vs Public to determine who has the strongest schedule. Publics play their conference. Good way to judge is who are they playing in their Non-League games. Are they challenging themselves?

I'm in Nassau, so not too familiar with Suffolk conferences. Seems like Syosset and Farmingdale have some relatively light non-league games. GC, Pequa & Manhassett all put Catholics & strong out of county teams on their schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade by far the hardest schedule with St A's number two - public schools play have too many cupcakes on the schedule

Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade by far the hardest schedule with St A's number two - public schools play have too many cupcakes on the schedule

Where did you find the schedules? I'm looking for the girls side. There's nothing on schedule star.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty simple - GCHS coach makes(strongly recommends) his players play for the GC club program. The teams never play the best Express or 91 teams or other top clubs for that matter. The GC teams typically have a decent first 10 but no depth. The best players are not fighting for playing time. They are not playing against the top players. GC has been doing this for 5 or so years and the GCHS program has faltered. It is similar to W. Islip. Both schools remain competitive but clearly not as dominate as they have been. Both schools will always compete at the high school level due to the strong youth programs but can't compete at the club level. Early recruiting makes this model pretty difficult to succeed as clubs will continue to grab the best players and the early commits leaving the town kids out to hang.

The only folks that care more about club ball are the ones who do not have a strong high school program. Will anyone care how many t-shirts they won during the bloated summer season 10 years from now? Or will they remember for the rest of their lives the County, Island and possibly State championship they won with their classmates representing their town and high school. As for recruiting, there are quite a few early commits coming out of GC for this group.

Move along.

Dude, the travel programs make the kids better because they see and play against the best regularly. The kids may value the HS achievements more, but travel makes them better!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty simple - GCHS coach makes(strongly recommends) his players play for the GC club program. The teams never play the best Express or 91 teams or other top clubs for that matter. The GC teams typically have a decent first 10 but no depth. The best players are not fighting for playing time. They are not playing against the top players. GC has been doing this for 5 or so years and the GCHS program has faltered. It is similar to W. Islip. Both schools remain competitive but clearly not as dominate as they have been. Both schools will always compete at the high school level due to the strong youth programs but can't compete at the club level. Early recruiting makes this model pretty difficult to succeed as clubs will continue to grab the best players and the early commits leaving the town kids out to hang.

The only folks that care more about club ball are the ones who do not have a strong high school program. Will anyone care how many t-shirts they won during the bloated summer season 10 years from now? Or will they remember for the rest of their lives the County, Island and possibly State championship they won with their classmates representing their town and high school. As for recruiting, there are quite a few early commits coming out of GC for this group.

Move along.

Dude, the travel programs make the kids better because they see and play against the best regularly. The kids may value the HS achievements more, but travel makes them better!

Says the guy whose HS team is terrible!! Go to a great HS game on Long Island and then tell me all about club.

St Anthonys schedule is the tougher one for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthonys schedule is the tougher one for sure.

For sure? They're basically the same except for:

Massapequa vs. Darien
McDonogh vs. BL
St. Ignatius vs. New Canaan

Laxpower

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NASSAU COUNTY BOYS LACROSSE CHAMPIONS BY SCHOOL

GARDEN CITY (20): 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016

Long Island Championships
GARDEN CITY (13) 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

NYS Championships

Garden City 9 appearances 6 wins 3 losses .666 last win 2013 last loss 2011

Dude, you are like a wind-up toy... Give it a break.

GC is the greatest program of all time. Do you feel better now?

Yes

OK, now go get your shine box.

I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Chaminade schedule correct?? They dropped Kellenberg and Dom's off??
Judging from last year...
Cham's should blow out - Fairfield, Greenwich, Yorktown, St John's and Iona...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade schedule correct?? They dropped Kellenberg and Dom's off??
Judging from last year...
Cham's should blow out - Fairfield, Greenwich, Yorktown, St John's and Iona...

I don't think the final schedule is posted. The Catholic games are usually the last ones updated/posted.

(Chaminade has always struggled with Yorktown for whatever reason. You can never count them out.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty simple - GCHS coach makes(strongly recommends) his players play for the GC club program. The teams never play the best Express or 91 teams or other top clubs for that matter. The GC teams typically have a decent first 10 but no depth. The best players are not fighting for playing time. They are not playing against the top players. GC has been doing this for 5 or so years and the GCHS program has faltered. It is similar to W. Islip. Both schools remain competitive but clearly not as dominate as they have been. Both schools will always compete at the high school level due to the strong youth programs but can't compete at the club level. Early recruiting makes this model pretty difficult to succeed as clubs will continue to grab the best players and the early commits leaving the town kids out to hang.

The only folks that care more about club ball are the ones who do not have a strong high school program. Will anyone care how many t-shirts they won during the bloated summer season 10 years from now? Or will they remember for the rest of their lives the County, Island and possibly State championship they won with their classmates representing their town and high school. As for recruiting, there are quite a few early commits coming out of GC for this group.

Move along.

Dude, the travel programs make the kids better because they see and play against the best regularly. The kids may value the HS achievements more, but travel makes them better!

Says the guy whose HS team is terrible!! Go to a great HS game on Long Island and then tell me all about club.

Nobody cares more about Club Ball than they do about HS ball. Club is played in addition to not in place of HS lacrosse.

In just about any good HS game on the Island you will see that the top kids all compete with and against each other in club ball during the off season.

Just about all of the top kids from CSH, Manhasset, Syosset, Massapequa, Ward Melville, Smithtown, Chaminade, St, Anthony's etc... All play for the top club teams during the off season. They compete against the best while practicing/training and they are challenged when they compete against the best kids from other parts of the country and Canada (Crabs, FCA, Madlax. Sweetlax, Laxachussets, Edge, HHH, Mesa Fresh etc...)

The level of competition in every conference on long island is very week. It is the same teams year in and year out who compete for championships. The catholic schools have more flexibility in terms of scheduling so they have a slight advantage regarding in season competition.

Just about all recruiting is done on the club circuit. For the players who are fortunate enough to play on a top tier club team the advantages are many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Syosset/Pequa/GC total joke parents beating their chests at one another. Love it. Keep the posts coming to entertain all of the other thousands of parents on the Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NASSAU COUNTY BOYS LACROSSE CHAMPIONS BY SCHOOL

GARDEN CITY (20): 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016

Long Island Championships
GARDEN CITY (13) 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013

NYS Championships

Garden City 9 appearances 6 wins 3 losses .666 last win 2013 last loss 2011

Dude, you are like a wind-up toy... Give it a break.

GC is the greatest program of all time. Do you feel better now?

Yes

OK, now go get your shine box.

Okay, thanks for the Goodfellas line, now I know exactly the kind of dope you are. Here's a few others:
1) "Frankly, my dear. I don't give a damn."
2) "There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home..."
3) "Made it, Ma! Top of the world!"
4) "...Bond. James Bond."
5) "You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

I like those better. Goodfellas quotes are for IROC driving guido morons, wearing the sleeveless t-shirt while they water the patch of lawn with the hose, oops, sorry did I just out you pal?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Where'd you find the schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

For those of you bickering over schedules, they are not all set, you will not find any one location that has all the games. You have to look at the various sources and reach out to the schools to get the real schedule.

you two movie quote guys sound like you'd enjoy each others company together quoting movies back and forth at one and other--you guys are teh same guy just wearing different school colors...too funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

those sound like scrimmages to me, not games. doubt Syosset would play chaminade and Smithtown east on the same day!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

are these Scrimmages? 3-15-3/18

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think Pequa, Farmingdale, SWR and Syosset have comparatively week schedules.

Since Smithtown East, West And Ward Melville essentially play the same schedules they basically beat up on each other. Looks like Smithtown West plays the tougher of those three with GC and CSH on the bill.

Both GC and Manhasset have quality outside schedules. Manhassett plays both Cham and St Ants as well as Darien and JOhn Jay. I wish GC would stop ducking the Catholics. However, with teams like Salesianum, Smithtown West, St Iggys Duxbury and SWR, GC is not hiding either.

10 teams on Chaminade's schedule would be considered marquis match ups by any standard. St. Anthony's has 9 marquis match ups. However they play very similar schedules. And they will play each other 3 times. St Anthony's has respectable games against Darien, New Cannaan, Boys Latin and Staples. Chaminade has Match ups against Pequa, Mcdonogh and St. Iggy Prep. Looks like there is still room on both their schedules for another game so I hope they go for another strong pairing. Would like to see St Ants play another PA team. Would like to see Cham keep the West Islip rivalry alive.

My take is the Catholics have the two toughest schedules with St. Ants just a game better. Followed by Cham, Manhassett, GC , then Smithtown West.

GC would move up if they played St Ants,. Why don't the Catholics play GC. And Why does Ward Melville not play St. Ants?

Pequa schedule is weak? I don't think so. They have Non League games @ Garden City, @ Chaminade, St Thomas Iquinas (Florida State Champs)..... Those are their 1st 3 games of the season, in an 8 day span. @ Smithtown East & Kellenberg still to follow
Strong conference games against Farmingdale, Port and @ Syosset. Do they have a few games in the bag vs Uniondale, Baldwin, etc...yeah, but that is the conference....
Who else do you want on the schedule?

Syosset far from weak!! They play St Anthony, west islip, garden city, chaminade, smithtown east, cold spring, northport. Forgot those are all weak teams!!!!

Might want to double check that schedule. I don't see St A's, WI, Chammy or SE.
Date Opponent
03/21 GARDEN CITY
03/23 at South Side
03/25 NORTHPORT
03/28 COLD SPRING HARBOR
03/31 OCEANSIDE
04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin
04/22 at Emmaus
04/25 at Farmingdale
04/28 MASSAPEQUA
05/02 PORT WASHINGTON
05/05 EAST MEADOW
05/11 at Valley Stream Central

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

Come up with it? It is the schedule that was sent to us. Why is it hard to play west islip and St Anthony's back to back?

I hope they don't get off the bus in their underwear again after those two tough back to back games...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff! [/quote]

Logic would say WI,St A, Cham and SE are scrimmages. Even the great Garden City would not book Chaminade and Smithtown East games on the same day. And while they are tough scrimmages you can not count them as part of your strength of schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you two movie quote guys sound like you'd enjoy each others company together quoting movies back and forth at one and other--you guys are teh same guy just wearing different school colors...too funny.

Awwwwww... he completes you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

04/05 at Plainview JFK
04/06 HICKSVILLE
04/19 at Freeport
04/20 at Baldwin

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

What's the big deal> First they play PLainview/Hicksvill back2back and than Freeport/Baldwin back2back... I can't remember ever seeing a schedule with one back to backs much less two. And as to your second part...(coach in their right mind)......lmfao

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

Logic would say WI,St A, Cham and SE are scrimmages. Even the great Garden City would not book Chaminade and Smithtown East games on the same day. And while they are tough scrimmages you can not count them as part of your strength of schedule [/quote]

okay NY State rules prevent games on the same day (Scrimmages). Either way good tune up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you two movie quote guys sound like you'd enjoy each others company together quoting movies back and forth at one and other--you guys are teh same guy just wearing different school colors...too funny.

Awwwwww... he completes you

Another movie quote!! That's funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you two movie quote guys sound like you'd enjoy each others company together quoting movies back and forth at one and other--you guys are teh same guy just wearing different school colors...too funny.

Awwwwww... he completes you

more like broke back mountain.

Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

[quote=Anonymous]I hope they don't get off the bus in their underwear again after those two tough back to back games...

Well you tool bag that is not what happen last year!! Get your dam facts right before you open you stupid trap! Crawl back in the hole you came out of !!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well maybe you should look at schedule
3/15 west islip
3/16 St Anthony's
3/18 chaminade, smithtown east

No Coach in their right mind would play West Islip and St. Anthony's on back to back days! Not to mention the Nassau County schedule only allows 15 regular season games.

I'd love to know where some of you come up with this stuff!

Logic would say WI,St A, Cham and SE are scrimmages. Even the great Garden City would not book Chaminade and Smithtown East games on the same day. And while they are tough scrimmages you can not count them as part of your strength of schedule maybe that's why Syosset beat the god country garden city the last 2 years!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you two movie quote guys sound like you'd enjoy each others company together quoting movies back and forth at one and other--you guys are teh same guy just wearing different school colors...too funny.

Awwwwww... he completes you

more like broke back mountain.

Easy, or the HRC supporters will be protesting BOTC, that's insensitive to the LGBT community.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Chaminade was a scrimmage not a game last year as is this year. Mass and SYO have similar schedules - a few good out of conference and very weak conference schedule, neither should be tested in league except against each other.

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

not true - but it was a different group of Syo parents last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

Say it with me everyone: "Scrimmages are not games. Scrimmages are not games. SCrimmages are not games."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Slick you must not be from Syosset because there was a d pole that went to St. Anthonys and is now back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

The relative dearth of Syosset kids at Chaminade likely has more to do with the fact that Syosset has fewer Catholic families when compared to other similar towns. Manhasset and Garden City are both "better" than Syosset (more expensive, better high schools, more storied lacrosse traditions, etc.) but they each send lots of kids to Chaminade every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Slick you must not be from Syosset because there was a d pole that went to St. Anthonys and is now back

Ok slick you're right , forgot about him ... There was that ONE kid. Forgot about him bc that was a different situation altogether. Learned their lesson quick and couldn't get back fast enough.

You are right... they didn't leave the bus in their underwear , they left the gym in their underwear .... fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

The relative dearth of Syosset kids at Chaminade likely has more to do with the fact that Syosset has fewer Catholic families when compared to other similar towns. Manhasset and Garden City are both "better" than Syosset (more expensive, better high schools, more storied lacrosse traditions, etc.) but they each send lots of kids to Chaminade every year.

Manhasset and Garden City better than Syosset? Yes, maybe at filling the ranks of civil service jobs.

You must be one of those alternative facts people. Only the chosen people can compete in lacrosse? Is that it? Get a life. And stop watching only Fox News - it will poison your mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Wrong... Never played
Go check the schedules from last year

Pleas don't come back with scrimmages - you'll just look silly.
Better to say that you made it up or are misinformed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Wrong... Never played
Go check the schedules from last year

Pleas don't come back with scrimmages - you'll just look silly.
Better to say that you made it up or are misinformed.

Tool bag Syosset played St Antony last year and lost by a goal!!!! Look it up you stupid a$$. Go crawl under Rock in garden city!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Wrong... Never played
Go check the schedules from last year

Pleas don't come back with scrimmages - you'll just look silly.
Better to say that you made it up or are misinformed.

Tool bag Syosset played St Antony last year and lost by a goal!!!! Look it up you stupid a$$. Go crawl under Rock in garden city!

Poster said Syo played BOTH Cham & St. Ants.

Poster was WRONG...They did not play BOTH.

End of story.

Did you look it up?

Now, go get your shine box.

there are three players currently playing for Syosset that at one point went to Chaminade, St Anthony's and St Dominics. there are 3 players currently at St Dominic's that at one point went to Syosset. A 2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and transferred to Syosset. A 2015 started at St Anthony's transferred to Syosset and then returned to St Anthony's - 2 laxers from Syosset class of 2013 went to Chaminade and 1 to St Anthony's. All and all Syosset has not lost as many lacrosse players to private schools as other towns. Each situation is unique and the families make their decision for a variety of reasons that are right for them. In the past ten years Syosset has scrimmaged St. Anthony's a few times and played them in a game once. They have scrimmaged Chaminade a number of times but never played them in an official game, usually in a 3 or 4 way on the Saturday before the season starts.

So the Syosset / St Anthony's score card is
2010 D went to St Anthony's for four years
2013 A went to St Anthony;s for four year
2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset
2015 A Started at St A, came to Syosset and returned to St A
2018 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset

"[quote=Anonymous]I hope they don't get off the bus in their underwear again after those two tough back to back games..."

"Well you tool bag that is not what happen last year!! Get your dam facts right before you open you stupid trap! Crawl back in the hole you came out of !!!"

I'm out of the hole again. You are going to deny the original statement based on semantics of saying the bus?? You know what happened tough guy and its an Embarrassment...Why don't you stick your head back in the sand. So glad I live on the RIGHT side of the Syo/CSH line... Go pequa.

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did not say Pequa weak sched... I said comparatively weak (relative to some of the others listed). NOT disparaging the team, just opining on the schedules.

Syosset schedule shown does not habe St ants and West Islip, so I dont know where that responding poster came up with that.

Syosset played both chaminade and St Anthony's last year. Beat chaminade and lost by a goal to St Anthony's.

Wrong... Never played
Go check the schedules from last year

Pleas don't come back with scrimmages - you'll just look silly.
Better to say that you made it up or are misinformed.

Tool bag Syosset played St Antony last year and lost by a goal!!!! Look it up you stupid a$$. Go crawl under Rock in garden city!

4:49am post? Dude, go back to bed. Your spelling and thoughts are embarrassing at this hour.

Hey, you have any clothing stores up in that fancy Syosset town? Maybe you can buy some pants for your boys HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

Agreed. Chaminade beat Syosset in that scrimmage last year. It really wasn't an important win in the grand scheme of things, but as long as some Syosset parent is putting it out alternative facts, the real fact is that last year's Syosset team at that scrimmage was outmanned and outgunned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there are three players currently playing for Syosset that at one point went to Chaminade, St Anthony's and St Dominics. there are 3 players currently at St Dominic's that at one point went to Syosset. A 2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and transferred to Syosset. A 2015 started at St Anthony's transferred to Syosset and then returned to St Anthony's - 2 laxers from Syosset class of 2013 went to Chaminade and 1 to St Anthony's. All and all Syosset has not lost as many lacrosse players to private schools as other towns. Each situation is unique and the families make their decision for a variety of reasons that are right for them. In the past ten years Syosset has scrimmaged St. Anthony's a few times and played them in a game once. They have scrimmaged Chaminade a number of times but never played them in an official game, usually in a 3 or 4 way on the Saturday before the season starts.

So the Syosset / St Anthony's score card is
2010 D went to St Anthony's for four years
2013 A went to St Anthony;s for four year
2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset
2015 A Started at St A, came to Syosset and returned to St A
2018 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset

That might be the most civil and informed post ever on BOTC.
Thank you. It was refreshing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there are three players currently playing for Syosset that at one point went to Chaminade, St Anthony's and St Dominics. there are 3 players currently at St Dominic's that at one point went to Syosset. A 2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and transferred to Syosset. A 2015 started at St Anthony's transferred to Syosset and then returned to St Anthony's - 2 laxers from Syosset class of 2013 went to Chaminade and 1 to St Anthony's. All and all Syosset has not lost as many lacrosse players to private schools as other towns. Each situation is unique and the families make their decision for a variety of reasons that are right for them. In the past ten years Syosset has scrimmaged St. Anthony's a few times and played them in a game once. They have scrimmaged Chaminade a number of times but never played them in an official game, usually in a 3 or 4 way on the Saturday before the season starts.

So the Syosset / St Anthony's score card is
2010 D went to St Anthony's for four years
2013 A went to St Anthony;s for four year
2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset
2015 A Started at St A, came to Syosset and returned to St A
2018 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset

Nice work Watson...but what does it mean ...and more important...who cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

Agreed. Chaminade beat Syosset in that scrimmage last year. It really wasn't an important win in the grand scheme of things, but as long as some Syosset parent is putting it out alternative facts, the real fact is that last year's Syosset team at that scrimmage was outmanned and outgunned.

Nice alternative facts. I guess that's what your kid told you. I guess his view from the bench was not very good.

Why not focus on Chammy's embarrassing running time loss to SA to end the season.

Off subject real quick , I tried to make it a topic but how do you watch college Lacrosse on TV . Espn ? apps ? I have a espn app on phone and espn U doesn't have lacrosse anymore . Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"[quote=Anonymous]I hope they don't get off the bus in their underwear again after those two tough back to back games..."

"Well you tool bag that is not what happen last year!! Get your dam facts right before you open you stupid trap! Crawl back in the hole you came out of !!!"

I'm out of the hole again. You are going to deny the original statement based on semantics of saying the bus?? You know what happened tough guy and its an Embarrassment...Why don't you stick your head back in the sand. So glad I live on the RIGHT side of the Syo/CSH line... Go pequa.

We're glad you live in CSH also. Must be nice for your son to get a ring even though he never sees the field. He's really living the dream. Enjoy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...errr yeah, except Syosset lost to Chaminade in the scrimmage...
Trust me... Or You'd see Syosset parents plastering the score on car bummer stickers everywhere.

Agreed. Chaminade beat Syosset in that scrimmage last year. It really wasn't an important win in the grand scheme of things, but as long as some Syosset parent is putting it out alternative facts, the real fact is that last year's Syosset team at that scrimmage was outmanned and outgunned.

Guess we were watching a different scrimmage . As our POTUS would say, "WRONG!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

While some Syo dads can be less than civil, Syo has had more than a few dads that are NYFD including one this year. Many two income families - teachers - nurses ect. just for your FYI - an A-hole is an A-hole regardless of profession or income.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there are three players currently playing for Syosset that at one point went to Chaminade, St Anthony's and St Dominics. there are 3 players currently at St Dominic's that at one point went to Syosset. A 2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and transferred to Syosset. A 2015 started at St Anthony's transferred to Syosset and then returned to St Anthony's - 2 laxers from Syosset class of 2013 went to Chaminade and 1 to St Anthony's. All and all Syosset has not lost as many lacrosse players to private schools as other towns. Each situation is unique and the families make their decision for a variety of reasons that are right for them. In the past ten years Syosset has scrimmaged St. Anthony's a few times and played them in a game once. They have scrimmaged Chaminade a number of times but never played them in an official game, usually in a 3 or 4 way on the Saturday before the season starts.

So the Syosset / St Anthony's score card is
2010 D went to St Anthony's for four years
2013 A went to St Anthony;s for four year
2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset
2015 A Started at St A, came to Syosset and returned to St A
2018 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset

Nice work Watson...but what does it mean ...and more important...who cares.

it was an answer to the person that claimed no Syosset lacrosse player has ever gone to St Anthony's so rather than call names or make insults and I gave facts, sorry if it offended

Syosset dad needs to spell check before posting! Or is he just so worked up over his precious lad walking around in his underwear that he's typing like a mad man. I quote " The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them" Huh? "There was full investigation about that day." Say again?? and finally, my less than brilliant friend writes: " It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!!" Dude learn how to write in English if you are going to post. Now go buy your son some PANTS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ESPNU still has games - First one next week

Feb 7, Tue 5:00 pm Navy at Johns Hopkins ESPNU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Off subject real quick , I tried to make it a topic but how do you watch college Lacrosse on TV . Espn ? apps ? I have a espn app on phone and espn U doesn't have lacrosse anymore . Thank you

There are many games on ESPN3 (which is in espn app). There are quite a few games that will be aired on ESPNU also.

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-r...17-ncaa-division-mens-lacrosse-schedule/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

Wow you some tough guy!! First of all for last time you f..cking [lacrosse]hole the coach did not force any kid out of the gym in their underwear!! Get the facts!! Come see me anytime to see what kind of puss.y I am.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

Please stop mixing ur mess with alcohol. It is affecting your memory. Also, you should focus more on what happens in your own town. You know what I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

I would assume that your civil service job is not a police investigator? this subject has been beat to death - the entire team wore sweat suits to the school that day as well as on the bus to and from the game - after the game they turned in their uniforms but all had the sweatsuits that they wore to the school and game - my son wore shorts he had in his locker. any kid that went home in underwear or compression shorts did so on their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there are three players currently playing for Syosset that at one point went to Chaminade, St Anthony's and St Dominics. there are 3 players currently at St Dominic's that at one point went to Syosset. A 2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and transferred to Syosset. A 2015 started at St Anthony's transferred to Syosset and then returned to St Anthony's - 2 laxers from Syosset class of 2013 went to Chaminade and 1 to St Anthony's. All and all Syosset has not lost as many lacrosse players to private schools as other towns. Each situation is unique and the families make their decision for a variety of reasons that are right for them. In the past ten years Syosset has scrimmaged St. Anthony's a few times and played them in a game once. They have scrimmaged Chaminade a number of times but never played them in an official game, usually in a 3 or 4 way on the Saturday before the season starts.

So the Syosset / St Anthony's score card is
2010 D went to St Anthony's for four years
2013 A went to St Anthony;s for four year
2014 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset
2015 A Started at St A, came to Syosset and returned to St A
2018 LSM started at St Anthony's and switched to Syosset

Nice work Watson...but what does it mean ...and more important...who cares.

it was an answer to the person that claimed no Syosset lacrosse player has ever gone to St Anthony's so rather than call names or make insults and I gave facts, sorry if it offended

It's very flattering that you keep such detailed records on kids in Syosset. Can you start posting game stats this spring?

Thank you!

STOP DEFENDING THE SYOSSET COACH!! Daddies without b@lls who allowed their SON'S coach to make them walk out the door in their underwear. YOU are cowards!! Hope that trophy is worth it spineless BRAVES!! And I love your anonymous threat. Where should I come meet you keyboard BRAVE at the bike rack at 3:00?? Get off your meds loser and stand up to the coach instead of an anonymous poster on BOTC. Chicken Sh*t

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

I would assume that your civil service job is not a police investigator? this subject has been beat to death - the entire team wore sweat suits to the school that day as well as on the bus to and from the game - after the game they turned in their uniforms but all had the sweatsuits that they wore to the school and game - my son wore shorts he had in his locker. any kid that went home in underwear or compression shorts did so on their own.

Based on what?? The embarrassed parents who SAID SO on BOTC? Sorry, doesn't wash. Boys don't leave in their underwear, it's called a cover up to protect the coach. Nothing more nothing less. Admit that winning is more important than the well being of your child.

Syosset is a HUGE school district that includes ALL income demographics anyway. South shore-GC like area-with small plots and close together homes south of jericho and north shore area up in muttontown. Ital, Jewish, asian and Indian +others all plentiful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

I would assume that your civil service job is not a police investigator? this subject has been beat to death - the entire team wore sweat suits to the school that day as well as on the bus to and from the game - after the game they turned in their uniforms but all had the sweatsuits that they wore to the school and game - my son wore shorts he had in his locker. any kid that went home in underwear or compression shorts did so on their own.

Based on what?? The embarrassed parents who SAID SO on BOTC? Sorry, doesn't wash. Boys don't leave in their underwear, it's called a cover up to protect the coach. Nothing more nothing less. Admit that winning is more important than the well being of your child.

First of all no knows he real truth cause the board of educAtion was not allowed to let the the public know what allegations was against the coach legally. So everything that was said is all bull crap and know one knows what the truth is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is a HUGE school district that includes ALL income demographics anyway. South shore-GC like area-with small plots and close together homes south of jericho and north shore area up in muttontown. Ital, Jewish, asian and Indian +others all plentiful.

What's your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

STOP DEFENDING THE SYOSSET COACH!! Daddies without b@lls who allowed their SON'S coach to make them walk out the door in their underwear. YOU are cowards!! Hope that trophy is worth it spineless BRAVES!! And I love your anonymous threat. Where should I come meet you keyboard BRAVE at the bike rack at 3:00?? Get off your meds loser and stand up to the coach instead of an anonymous poster on BOTC. Chicken Sh*t

so SCREAMED the anonymous poster on BOTC....lol.....didn't your mommy hug you enough when you were a baby? Are you a disgruntled parent of a kid that didn't play? a pissed off parent whose kid doesn't play? a parent of a kid going to a private school? or just a a Don Quixote titling at imaginary controversies that you can not see but you are sure they are there?

please recite the following and it will get you to your happy place

Coach Calabria grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change
(like who is the head coach);
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.

Playing lacrosse one day at a time;
scoring goals one moment at a time;
Accepting humility as the pathway to manhood;
Taking, as Calabria did, this scantly clothed world
As it is, not as I would have been dressed;
Trusting that Calabria will make all things right
If I surrender to His Tirades;
So that I may be reasonably happy on his team
And supremely happy with Him
Forever and ever in the next.

Amen.

I'll chant this:

Syosset parents put trophies in front of their children.
Syosset dads are pussi*s

I like that WAY better. That's all I know and need. Go stare at your Trophy loser.

Look at your kids jersey that says BRAVE, because you sure are not.
Good luck this season, hope it was worth it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

While some Syo dads can be less than civil, Syo has had more than a few dads that are NYFD including one this year. Many two income families - teachers - nurses ect. just for your FYI - an A-hole is an A-hole regardless of profession or income.

It's FDNY . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

STOP DEFENDING THE SYOSSET COACH!! Daddies without b@lls who allowed their SON'S coach to make them walk out the door in their underwear. YOU are cowards!! Hope that trophy is worth it spineless BRAVES!! And I love your anonymous threat. Where should I come meet you keyboard BRAVE at the bike rack at 3:00?? Get off your meds loser and stand up to the coach instead of an anonymous poster on BOTC. Chicken Sh*t

so SCREAMED the anonymous poster on BOTC....lol.....didn't your mommy hug you enough when you were a baby? Are you a disgruntled parent of a kid that didn't play? a pissed off parent whose kid doesn't play? a parent of a kid going to a private school? or just a a Don Quixote titling at imaginary controversies that you can not see but you are sure they are there?

please recite the following and it will get you to your happy place

Coach Calabria grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change
(like who is the head coach);
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.

Playing lacrosse one day at a time;
scoring goals one moment at a time;
Accepting humility as the pathway to manhood;
Taking, as Calabria did, this scantly clothed world
As it is, not as I would have been dressed;
Trusting that Calabria will make all things right
If I surrender to His Tirades;
So that I may be reasonably happy on his team
And supremely happy with Him
Forever and ever in the next.

Amen.

Hey, way to put some humor into something so un funny. Hope you sleep better at night knowing you brought back the guy who made your son walk home in his underwear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll chant this:

Syosset parents put trophies in front of their children.
Syosset dads are pussi*s

I like that WAY better. That's all I know and need. Go stare at your Trophy loser.

Look at your kids jersey that says BRAVE, because you sure are not.
Good luck this season, hope it was worth it.

If you are not from Syosset I must ask why all the venom?

If you are from Syosset I have to ask "why didn't you show up to either of the board meetings, the knives were sharpened and the board and Superintendent were clamoring to remove the coach and move on if only one parent or town resident would show up and publicly make a charge against the coach or publicly say anything bad about him and he was gone. But you, Mr Big Balls, while typing your anonymous venom here on BOTC stayed quite. over 100 people (or as Donald Trump would say 1,000,000 people) showed up to both meetings and he had 100% support. Where were you when it mattered? but we are the pussi*s ????

You all are a bunch of keyboard warriors/classless idiots, arguing for on an anonymous message board about bunch of kids.

Here's to all you Syo dad's out there, it's a little literature from a very good book, I'm sharing it with you, sure you can relate.

�You're gutless. It's how you were made. And that's not such a bad thing because your saving grace is that you've never lied to yourself about it. Not about that. Nothing wrong with cowardice as long as it comes with prudence. But when a coward stops remembering who he is... God help him.�
― Khaled Hosseini, The Kite Runner

Hey Braves daddies, here's another:

�To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice.�
― Confucius

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll chant this:

Syosset parents put trophies in front of their children.
Syosset dads are pussi*s

I like that WAY better. That's all I know and need. Go stare at your Trophy loser.

Look at your kids jersey that says BRAVE, because you sure are not.
Good luck this season, hope it was worth it.

If you are not from Syosset I must ask why all the venom?

If you are from Syosset I have to ask "why didn't you show up to either of the board meetings, the knives were sharpened and the board and Superintendent were clamoring to remove the coach and move on if only one parent or town resident would show up and publicly make a charge against the coach or publicly say anything bad about him and he was gone. But you, Mr Big Balls, while typing your anonymous venom here on BOTC stayed quite. over 100 people (or as Donald Trump would say 1,000,000 people) showed up to both meetings and he had 100% support. Where were you when it mattered? but we are the pussi*s ????

You didn't speak the truth because you want the ring, your kid doesn't matter, and since you asked, YES you are a [lacrosse]

What about the Syosset mothers? why all the hate for just the dads?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll chant this:

Syosset parents put trophies in front of their children.
Syosset dads are pussi*s

I like that WAY better. That's all I know and need. Go stare at your Trophy loser.

Look at your kids jersey that says BRAVE, because you sure are not.
Good luck this season, hope it was worth it.

If you are not from Syosset I must ask why all the venom?

If you are from Syosset I have to ask "why didn't you show up to either of the board meetings, the knives were sharpened and the board and Superintendent were clamoring to remove the coach and move on if only one parent or town resident would show up and publicly make a charge against the coach or publicly say anything bad about him and he was gone. But you, Mr Big Balls, while typing your anonymous venom here on BOTC stayed quite. over 100 people (or as Donald Trump would say 1,000,000 people) showed up to both meetings and he had 100% support. Where were you when it mattered? but we are the pussi*s ????

You didn't speak the truth because you want the ring, your kid doesn't matter, and since you asked, YES you are a [lacrosse]

do you not respect Syosset parents? you need to be a little clearer

Heard Syosset is changing uniforms to powder blue and white is that the new school colors or symbolic for a cause like breast cancer , heart disease or AIDS ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Syosset is changing uniforms to powder blue and white is that the new school colors or symbolic for a cause like breast cancer , heart disease or AIDS ?

lol what do u live in an igloo or something ?!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

It's funny on how everyone from GC knows what happened in Syosset despite not being there. Thanks for caring! Syo was wearing uniforms to show respect for wounded warriors, I guess that shows a complete lack of character and that the team's philosophy is only about winning? Maybe you should have come to the Board Meeting if you care so much - 100s of parents, other coaches and alumni came in support of the program.

It must really bother you that Syosset beat GC the past to years. Deal with it.

Oh, and get out of your ivory tower, a lot of BS goes on in your town as well. Out of respect for the GC student athletes no further details.

Have a nice day.

All the righteous quotes= mom, too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Syosset is changing uniforms to powder blue and white is that the new school colors or symbolic for a cause like breast cancer , heart disease or AIDS ?

lol what do u live in an igloo or something ?!!

I didn't get the first post but the reply was flat out funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

It's funny on how everyone from GC knows what happened in Syosset despite not being there. Thanks for caring! Syo was wearing uniforms to show respect for wounded warriors, I guess that shows a complete lack of character and that the team's philosophy is only about winning? Maybe you should have come to the Board Meeting if you care so much - 100s of parents, other coaches and alumni came in support of the program.

It must really bother you that Syosset beat GC the past to years. Deal with it.

Oh, and get out of your ivory tower, a lot of BS goes on in your town as well. Out of respect for the GC student athletes no further details.

Have a nice day.

Coward, why make this about another town? You allowed your son to be humiliated and embarrassed . Worry about that cowardly brave daddy with no balls. Maybe I'm from CSH, or Seaford or anywhere else, but our boys wear pants home, yours don't. You sold out your son for a win. Get over your guilt and accept your cowardice. [lacrosse]

Syosset translated from its Native American origin means boys without pants in English

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset translated from its Native American origin means boys without pants in English

Or Father with no balls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset translated from its Native American origin means boys without pants in English

Or Father with no balls

I think it's "boys without pants AND Father with no balls"

Hey Syosset daddy, ever hear this one? Seems appropriate for you: "I bet you lay awake all night dreaming of a real man. I tell you what, you bring your pretty little self to my apartment and I'll show you a real man. " Clubber Lang, Rockky III.

Hey syo daddy, tell everyone all about the big bad GC secrets, I don't care. Nothing compares to selling your kids dignity for a shiny plastic trophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey syo daddy, tell everyone all about the big bad GC secrets, I don't care. Nothing compares to selling your kids dignity for a shiny plastic trophy.

Hey GC Dad, when u fall off of your bar stool and hit your head do you qualify for a govt disability pension? You should look into that.

Hey Syo daddy, since you have no balls do you get to use the ladies powder room? Hahahahaha, does your son even call you dad? Or does he just give you a Mother's Day card too? Coward who sold out his son!! Should have used all that wit to stand up for your boy. [lacrosse] brave. Hahahaha, what a joke, stand up to me, look in the mirror pansy [lacrosse]. Laughing my a$$ off at your spineless attempt to rip me. My kid comes first,

Is that the big secret?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Syo daddy, since you have no balls do you get to use the ladies powder room? Hahahahaha, does your son even call you dad? Or does he just give you a Mother's Day card too? Coward who sold out his son!! Should have used all that wit to stand up for your boy. [lacrosse] brave. Hahahaha, what a joke, stand up to me, look in the mirror pansy [lacrosse]. Laughing my a$$ off at your spineless attempt to rip me. My kid comes first,

....in your mouth.

Maybe the two of you could get a room. Spare the rest of us your embarrassing flirting.

Let's change the discussion to parity in Men's D1 lacrosse. Duke gets beat at home by Air Force 11-10 !!! With all the top recruits and multiple PG's all over the field for Duke, they fall to a squad mostly comprised of kids who were not highly recruited...
Parity is here to stay folks. You will see more of this with different teams throughout the year. Let's face it, we were a broken foot and a missed shot or two from having Brown and MU in the final last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not sure why Syosset d*ck bags have such a problem with civil service employees, but your main concern should be getting your sons to come home with their pants on! If a coach did that to my son, my civil service self would be down at that gym the next day looking for an explanation. But since you white shirt cowards would never stand up to another person outside of your keyboard warrior status you allowed your sons to be embarrassed and your town to be the laughing stocks of the County. Stop worrying about civil servants and start worrying about what else is happening to your son when he comes home without pants. LOSER

It is pretty obvious you have no idea what happen that day cause talking out your [lacrosse]!! The kids left in their own coach didn't tell them. There was full investigation about that day. That is why the coach was reinstated within 2 days of being suspended! Get the facts straight. [lacrosse]hole. Maybe your kids shouldn't get caught smoking pot in school function.

Stop defending your coach!! He forced your sons to exit the gym in their tighty whiteys and the Syosset dads cowered at home!! The only BRAVES in Syosset are the ones on the team, the dads are a bunch of puss*es! Kids smoke pot, dads protect their sons from predatory adults, except in Syosset, where winning is more important.

It's funny on how everyone from GC knows what happened in Syosset despite not being there. Thanks for caring! Syo was wearing uniforms to show respect for wounded warriors, I guess that shows a complete lack of character and that the team's philosophy is only about winning? Maybe you should have come to the Board Meeting if you care so much - 100s of parents, other coaches and alumni came in support of the program.

It must really bother you that Syosset beat GC the past to years. Deal with it.

Oh, and get out of your ivory tower, a lot of BS goes on in your town as well. Out of respect for the GC student athletes no further details.

Have a nice day.

Coward, why make this about another town? You allowed your son to be humiliated and embarrassed . Worry about that cowardly brave daddy with no balls. Maybe I'm from CSH, or Seaford or anywhere else, but our boys wear pants home, yours don't. You sold out your son for a win. Get over your guilt and accept your cowardice. [lacrosse]

OK GC Dad. 120 in 2016! Storied program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Syo daddy, since you have no balls do you get to use the ladies powder room? Hahahahaha, does your son even call you dad? Or does he just give you a Mother's Day card too? Coward who sold out his son!! Should have used all that wit to stand up for your boy. [lacrosse] brave. Hahahaha, what a joke, stand up to me, look in the mirror pansy [lacrosse]. Laughing my a$$ off at your spineless attempt to rip me. My kid comes first,

Tradition runs deep! Exemplary behavior...

http://longisland.news12.com/news/g...on-tape-stealing-license-plate-1.8244379

You realize most people know you are not a Garden City dad but a Syosset parent.
It didn't work. Get over it.

That's the best you got? Go put some pants on your boys! Hahahahaha

I can't believe u guys are adults.

Pants

Discredited. Frustrated.
Maybe he'll get more playing time this year.
Just let it al out....

Which is it Syosset eunuchs, am I a GC dad or a [lacrosse] like you? Hahaha, this is better than the game! Buy your sons pants!

Let me tune you in Brave daddy, boys make mistakes....dads protect their sons. Which one do you relate with? Hahahahaha

Are you the wicked witch of the east or the west?
Or just of Syosset?

The ones that aren't bats**t crazy like , well you, lady.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's change the discussion to parity in Men's D1 lacrosse. Duke gets beat at home by Air Force 11-10 !!! With all the top recruits and multiple PG's all over the field for Duke, they fall to a squad mostly comprised of kids who were not highly recruited...
Parity is here to stay folks. You will see more of this with different teams throughout the year. Let's face it, we were a broken foot and a missed shot or two from having Brown and MU in the final last year.

Just sayin' and not disagreeing with the overall point, but AF has a lot of athletes do a PG year as those men don't get any significant breaks from the academic and military training elements of being at the Academy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's change the discussion to parity in Men's D1 lacrosse. Duke gets beat at home by Air Force 11-10 !!! With all the top recruits and multiple PG's all over the field for Duke, they fall to a squad mostly comprised of kids who were not highly recruited...
Parity is here to stay folks. You will see more of this with different teams throughout the year. Let's face it, we were a broken foot and a missed shot or two from having Brown and MU in the final last year.

Just sayin' and not disagreeing with the overall point, but AF has a lot of athletes do a PG year as those men don't get any significant breaks from the academic and military training elements of being at the Academy.

Fair point. However, consider this: Duke has had the top 1,2 or 3 recruiting classes for many years. Supposedly getting the best players year in and year out. By that measure alone, they should beat AF with their second line at every position. Point is, most of these Coaches have no idea what they're doing with recruiting. Ty Xanders and the rest of these morons that "rank" kids, have even less of an idea of what they're talking about. If they were even close to being right, Duke would have won that game yesterday by 10. Parity is here to stay. My second prediction is that all this early recruiting over the last few years will only increase the level of parity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Slick you must not be from Syosset because there was a d pole that went to St. Anthonys and is now back

Also a d-pole went to Chami and came back.

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Slick you must not be from Syosset because there was a d pole that went to St. Anthonys and is now back

Also a d-pole went to Chami and came back.

He left ST A's because he knew he would not start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

A coach should be fired for blackballing a player. Period.

no coach wants to or needs to take a player who has a painful mom and or dad.
not worth it . too many good kids with talent who don't have "that" Mom or Dad as baggage.
they do not know more than the coach, refs. or everyone else. make a bunch of stupid clich�' comments.
sadly...these people don't believe this applies to them

its called feedback. college coach needs the insight of h.s. coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

A coach should be fired for blackballing a player. Period.

Who's going to tell?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

A coach should be fired for blackballing a player. Period.

Might even deserve to get his A$$ kicked, just sayin...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no coach wants to or needs to take a player who has a painful mom and or dad.
not worth it . too many good kids with talent who don't have "that" Mom or Dad as baggage.
they do not know more than the coach, refs. or everyone else. make a bunch of stupid clich�' comments.
sadly...these people don't believe this applies to them

No one mentioned "that" Mom or Dad being a problem.

those are the people who think their little superstar was blackballed somehow.

Black balling and giving honest feedback are two different things. If coach overly praises every player to recruiters and they turn ouot to be busts or really behavioral problems the college coaches will no longer pay any mind to that HS coaches recommendations and perehaps even kids coming out of the HS--this is fact.

I agree. I do think that any responsible h.s. coach would be candid about how the parents of a potential recruit behaves. part of the package in addition to talent evaluation. If they have been
loud mouth, know it alls, this will likely continue in college (same goes for the a$$ kissers). who needs that garbage?

What are you basing these facts on? College coaches go on the scouts first, great talent says scout A. Call the HS coach says college coach. Okay says scout. HS coach says, hey great talent, but the kids a nightmare, dad is a helicopter. Will poison your team. Kay says scout, who relays to coach. Who then in turn during discussions with other coaches ( most are friends believe it or not) says oh yeah we had Johnny on the radar but he/dad is a cancer to the team. This circulates and voila, Johnny is blackballed. The team comes first not your son. Character counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Black balling and giving honest feedback are two different things. If coach overly praises every player to recruiters and they turn ouot to be busts or really behavioral problems the college coaches will no longer pay any mind to that HS coaches recommendations and perehaps even kids coming out of the HS--this is fact.

Parents find out when the college coach tells the parents what the HS school told him. Many HS coaches have an agenda, its just life and have to deal with it.

At some point parents have to realize it's not everyone else, it's you and your kid. The high school coach agenda thing doesn't really fly. Why does the coach have a beef with your kid?

what am I basing facts upon? ( never end a sentence with a preposition) ? you just said the same thing but with more detail. whom do you actually define as a scout? do you mean asst. coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what am I basing facts upon? ( never end a sentence with a preposition) ? you just said the same thing but with more detail. whom do you actually define as a scout? do you mean asst. coach?

Yes, you said fact. What facts? And since you're such a tool, I'm guessing YOU are the reason your kid got blackballed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]what am I basing facts upon? ( never end a sentence with a preposition) ? you just said the same thing but with more detail. whom do you actually define as a scout? do you mean asst. coach?

Yes, you said fact. What facts? And since you're such a tool, I'm guessing YOU are the reason your kid got blackballed.

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Is this another Syosset / GC / every other school that hates Syosset debate. I'm so lost who blackballed who and there's a witch involved as well as Indian names and dads with no balls. How come there is only Syosset bashing what about the other 100+ schools on Long Island that have boys lacrosse programs. Give it a break

The poster asked about getting blacklisted by coaches. Then didn't like the responses, One can only assume his son is getting negative feedback from the coaches of his high school team. Don't ask questions you don't want the answer too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster asked about getting blacklisted by coaches. Then didn't like the responses, One can only assume his son is getting negative feedback from the coaches of his high school team. Don't ask questions you don't want the answer too.

Sounds like that movie with Tom Cruise as a high school football player. "Stef" Djordjevic
"All The Right Moves" famous quote
Steff:
Scholarship here, no scholarship here. Who the [lacrosse] gave you that power?

my experience with my HS coach and college coaches. I never got the warm and fuzzy feeling from his HS coach that he particularly liked my kid. When college coaches called he was 100% positive but somewhat lukewarm - (two ways to say things). I can also say from my experiences D1's and D2's and top D3's are not calling the HS coach about lacrosse ability, they see film, they see the kid at a prospect camp or showcases, they are calling to see how hard they work, are they leaders on and off the field. HS coach needs to be honest with college coach about the kid if they want to be able to help other kid in the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

I was the poster of the question: "How far will a HS coach go to screw over a player?" My son is committed, I have no axe to grind but I'm curious if what one of the College coaches could be true. He said when he called the HS coach he tried to sell him on other players.... "You don't want that kid, you should look at XXXXX" The college coach had seen them all play numerous times and replied "I've watched XXXXX play and I'm really interested in ZZZZZZ" And the HS coach persisted in trying to sell him on XXXXX. The college coach told us he had never experienced such a recruiting call and thought the HS coach was out of line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point parents have to realize it's not everyone else, it's you and your kid. The high school coach agenda thing doesn't really fly. Why does the coach have a beef with your kid?

Let's face it, there are some great HS Coaches and there are some, that are really twisted individuals. Many are on some crazy power trips. They want to win at all cost for themselves, not the kids.
I could see one of these coaches, especially ones with their own summer profit center, I mean team, being a real [lacrosse]hole.
This is why you have to play travel so there is another side to the story.
Get your side of the story out to the schools you're interested in. Have club Coach preemptively invalidate HS Coaches story. Look, many College Coaches don't even talk to HS Coaches. Most are irrelevant in the process these days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

I was the poster of the question: "How far will a HS coach go to screw over a player?" My son is committed, I have no axe to grind but I'm curious if what one of the College coaches could be true. He said when he called the HS coach he tried to sell him on other players.... "You don't want that kid, you should look at XXXXX" The college coach had seen them all play numerous times and replied "I've watched XXXXX play and I'm really interested in ZZZZZZ" And the HS coach persisted in trying to sell him on XXXXX. The college coach told us he had never experienced such a recruiting call and thought the HS coach was out of line.

maybe the coach thought your kid was such a good player he would have other options and he was trying to help the other kid ( glass is half full) or more than likely the coach was a huge [lacrosse]HOLE (glass is half empty) and that is more likely the answer. congratulation to your kid and best of luck to him going to play for a coach that appreciates him.

A big difference between being a HS coach vs. being a college coach is the ability to pick your players as opposed to have to coach the players you are given. The college coaches I have had dealings with seem to take the "Character" part of the equation seriously but at the end of the day they seem to be most interested in ability, athleticism and size (you can coach lacrosse but you can't coach size and speed) and they do not depend on HS coaches for that. They all have pretty big egos and believe they can mold the kid into what they want.

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

I was the poster of the question: "How far will a HS coach go to screw over a player?" My son is committed, I have no axe to grind but I'm curious if what one of the College coaches could be true. He said when he called the HS coach he tried to sell him on other players.... "You don't want that kid, you should look at XXXXX" The college coach had seen them all play numerous times and replied "I've watched XXXXX play and I'm really interested in ZZZZZZ" And the HS coach persisted in trying to sell him on XXXXX. The college coach told us he had never experienced such a recruiting call and thought the HS coach was out of line.

maybe the coach thought your kid was such a good player he would have other options and he was trying to help the other kid ( glass is half full) or more than likely the coach was a huge [lacrosse]HOLE (glass is half empty) and that is more likely the answer. congratulation to your kid and best of luck to him going to play for a coach that appreciates him.

Seriously, is this the same poster answering his own posts? because it sure seems like it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How far will a Varsity coach go to screw over a kid he doesn't like (or perhaps, doesn't like his father)? Would he tell inquiring college coaches that the kid is a bad seed? To look elsewhere? Could that really be possible? Thanks for feedback.

Yes, the blackball exists. When the college coach calls he will let him know that the young man may be a good player, but beware of him due to events other than lacrosse. NCC year required.

I was the poster of the question: "How far will a HS coach go to screw over a player?" My son is committed, I have no axe to grind but I'm curious if what one of the College coaches could be true. He said when he called the HS coach he tried to sell him on other players.... "You don't want that kid, you should look at XXXXX" The college coach had seen them all play numerous times and replied "I've watched XXXXX play and I'm really interested in ZZZZZZ" And the HS coach persisted in trying to sell him on XXXXX. The college coach told us he had never experienced such a recruiting call and thought the HS coach was out of line.

maybe the coach thought your kid was such a good player he would have other options and he was trying to help the other kid ( glass is half full) or more than likely the coach was a huge [lacrosse]HOLE (glass is half empty) and that is more likely the answer. congratulation to your kid and best of luck to him going to play for a coach that appreciates him.

Seriously, is this the same poster answering his own posts? because it sure seems like it.

you never know... there is always the equation that the player the coach wanted... didnt want that school... and the coach knew another player did, and as a good coach tried to steer the college coach in a different direction without coming right out and saying anything.

Glass 3/4 full!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

So you're okay with your sons Varsity coach pitching other kids when an interested college coach calls about your son? I am not. If a college coach is interested in my son, I would expect the varsity coach to focus on my son, not divert his attention. Its not the varsity coaches job to pitch other players to college coaches when they call about a specific player. Hidden agenda perhaps? Club ball conflict?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. (irrelevant about lacrosse ability not character), Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. (true, that is why a negative evaluation is so potentially damaging) Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team. (or he just doesn't like the kid)
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? (character and work ethic) Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you never know... there is always the equation that the player the coach wanted... didnt want that school... and the coach knew another player did, and as a good coach tried to steer the college coach in a different direction without coming right out and saying anything.

Glass 3/4 full!

You make a good point, but I think the person who wrote the original question was referring to a scenario where the kid actually wanted to go to that particular college

sounds like team that isn't csh or Manhasset rhymes with barden skitty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

So you're okay with your sons Varsity coach pitching other kids when an interested college coach calls about your son? I am not. If a college coach is interested in my son, I would expect the varsity coach to focus on my son, not divert his attention. Its not the varsity coaches job to pitch other players to college coaches when they call about a specific player. Hidden agenda perhaps? Club ball conflict?

It most certainly is HIS job to pitch players to a coach/program he thinks may benefit the player. The coach of the HS team doesn't work for YOU. He works for the district, he is the coach for the entire team. If the varsity coach recommended your son to the Duke coach because he felt he was a good fit BUT the Duke coach wasn't calling for your son, would there still be a problem? Doubtful. And no I would not have a problem if my son's varsity coach recommended another player. I also know my son ahs no character issues with his coach. He has a reputation as a quiet kid who works hard.

It is the parents fault, not the kid...always look at the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like team that isn't csh or Manhasset rhymes with barden skitty

Why? You should be specific when you put out ominous posts. Like you sound like you rhyme with man hole. Syo daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

So you're okay with your sons Varsity coach pitching other kids when an interested college coach calls about your son? I am not. If a college coach is interested in my son, I would expect the varsity coach to focus on my son, not divert his attention. Its not the varsity coaches job to pitch other players to college coaches when they call about a specific player. Hidden agenda perhaps? Club ball conflict?

It most certainly is HIS job to pitch players to a coach/program he thinks may benefit the player. The coach of the HS team doesn't work for YOU. He works for the district, he is the coach for the entire team. If the varsity coach recommended your son to the Duke coach because he felt he was a good fit BUT the Duke coach wasn't calling for your son, would there still be a problem? Doubtful. And no I would not have a problem if my son's varsity coach recommended another player. I also know my son ahs no character issues with his coach. He has a reputation as a quiet kid who works hard.

You would be okay if Duke coach called your sons Varsity coach to inquire about him and his HS coach tried to pitch another kid? You can't be serious. You would be livid that the Varsity coach may have just ruined your sons chances of attending Duke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

So you're okay with your sons Varsity coach pitching other kids when an interested college coach calls about your son? I am not. If a college coach is interested in my son, I would expect the varsity coach to focus on my son, not divert his attention. Its not the varsity coaches job to pitch other players to college coaches when they call about a specific player. Hidden agenda perhaps? Club ball conflict?

It most certainly is HIS job to pitch players to a coach/program he thinks may benefit the player. The coach of the HS team doesn't work for YOU. He works for the district, he is the coach for the entire team. If the varsity coach recommended your son to the Duke coach because he felt he was a good fit BUT the Duke coach wasn't calling for your son, would there still be a problem? Doubtful. And no I would not have a problem if my son's varsity coach recommended another player. I also know my son ahs no character issues with his coach. He has a reputation as a quiet kid who works hard.

. . . not at the expense of the player the college coach called about!

These are issues that we as parents raised with our school superintendent, to the point where the school district has now drafted official and formal policies/conduct for the varsity coaches with regards to recruiting communications and responsibilities. This now also includes NCAA recruiting-related training for both coaches and guidance. More school districts should go this route as it makes for a much cleaner recruiting landscape for student athletes and their parents, and reduces the chances of incidents such as the one being discussed - there is theoretically actual policy and, thus, accountability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

So you're okay with your sons Varsity coach pitching other kids when an interested college coach calls about your son? I am not. If a college coach is interested in my son, I would expect the varsity coach to focus on my son, not divert his attention. Its not the varsity coaches job to pitch other players to college coaches when they call about a specific player. Hidden agenda perhaps? Club ball conflict?

It most certainly is HIS job to pitch players to a coach/program he thinks may benefit the player. The coach of the HS team doesn't work for YOU. He works for the district, he is the coach for the entire team. If the varsity coach recommended your son to the Duke coach because he felt he was a good fit BUT the Duke coach wasn't calling for your son, would there still be a problem? Doubtful. And no I would not have a problem if my son's varsity coach recommended another player. I also know my son ahs no character issues with his coach. He has a reputation as a quiet kid who works hard.

You would be okay if Duke coach called your sons Varsity coach to inquire about him and his HS coach tried to pitch another kid? You can't be serious. You would be livid that the Varsity coach may have just ruined your sons chances of attending Duke.

What did your son do? There are two sides to every story, what is the other side?

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week...

that's an awesome solution. like it a lot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week...

You brought all this up, then got defensive, I assume much like your BRAT of a son. I'm sure that is the issue. You should all go hug each other. GOT IT DUMMY! Do me a favor go [lacrosse]*k yourself you self absorbed jerk.

OK time to move on - who has the best attack in Nassau/Suffolk - midfield - defense and goalie- defensive midfield - faceoff midfild - coaching staffs - play nice and do units not individuals

GC attack has to be right up there, before u idiots star I am from Pequa.

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Syosset would never play both Cham and St. Ant's because the tend to loose kids to both schools.

If they loose big, then bye by next years crop.

Not sure what town u r from but u don't seem to know anything about Syosset. I can't remember any kids ever leaving Syosset to go to St. Anthony's and play lacrosse and as far as Chaminade if one player goes every 4-5 years that's a lot. And you're wrong about Syosset not playing them, they have played (non league/scrimmage) both teams for a few years and they are always close close scores, usually within 1.
Kids would have no reason ,except the catholic education , to leave Syosset for those schools. They have better academics at Syosset as well as great athletics which either rival or surpass depending on the sport . It would be throwing money away.

Plus you can not enter chaminade after 9th grade so that would be false for above statement. Syosset plays good teams to get better, cause conference is weak!

Slick you must not be from Syosset because there was a d pole that went to St. Anthonys and is now back

Also a d-pole went to Chami and came back.

He left ST A's because he knew he would not start.

And you know this ??? Stop speculating on things you know absolutely nothing about. You [bleep'n] ignorant poser. Get a life or even a job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week... [/quote
]
Reality is Most College Coaches, think most, HS Lacrosse coaches are jokes... College coaches tend to quietly resent ambitious, greedy public HS Coaches that profit from players with no real choice...
Don't believe me?? Why do you think every college coach has a minimum of 3 prospect camps?? College coaches want to help marginalize the HS and Club coaches' power and share in the profit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Over rated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week... [/quote
]
Reality is Most College Coaches, think most, HS Lacrosse coaches are jokes... College coaches tend to quietly resent ambitious, greedy public HS Coaches that profit from players with no real choice...
Don't believe me?? Why do you think every college coach has a minimum of 3 prospect camps?? College coaches want to help marginalize the HS and Club coaches' power and share in the profit

You have got to be kidding me! Why do the college coaches have 3 prospect camps....for the money moron!! You are a lost cause, I cannot even begin to think you have any clue at all. Every college coach WAS a HS coach. Here's a shocker, the average salary of a HS coach on LI when combined with their teaching salaries is better than most D-1 lacrosse coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Yes, of course they do, Doctor. LOL

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Not sure why the HS coach should hide the fact that a kid is a sh*t? You keep bringing up the shortcomings of the coach, address the kid's issues, not the adults.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

Michigan has an NCAA lacrosse program? I thought it was still club.

It's amazing that you can not have an adult discussion on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

Michigan has an NCAA lacrosse program? I thought it was still club.

I believe last year was their first year as a D1 program (maybe 2 years ago)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

Michigan has an NCAA lacrosse program? I thought it was still club.

Michigan went D1 back in 2012.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Not sure why the HS coach should hide the fact that a kid is a sh*t? You keep bringing up the shortcomings of the coach, address the kid's issues, not the adults.

Why do you assume the kid did anything wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

"If Dickie Dunn (Ty Xanders) said it, than it must be true" - Reg Dunlap

Can't have an adult conversation here because people would rather post their opinions and assumptions as facts. They ask questions and when asked details about these questions get defensive. Adults on BOTC insult other towns/jobs/political leanings etc. Then can't believe it when someone throws it back in their faces.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has 2 of the best Attack anywhere.

Where did they transfer in from? Don't remember Manhasset being good last year. Didn't they lose to GC like 2X?

Transfers ? They have the number 26 and 61 recruits in country on their attack. Going to Hopkins and Michigan. Saying stupid things doesn't make you very credible.

Alot of talk of Nassau predictions. South Side looks to have a good season.Very Good defense

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Not sure why the HS coach should hide the fact that a kid is a sh*t? You keep bringing up the shortcomings of the coach, address the kid's issues, not the adults.

Why do you assume the kid did anything wrong?

Trying to figure why a coach would blacklist a kid. I played sports in both HS and college and never saw this. Players were blacklisted or disliked by coaches because of their attitude. Any HS coach worth his salary would extend that to a college coach. If he doesn't that has a negative impact on the program as that coach becomes a pariah and kids on the team will cease to be recruited. I'll ask again, what school are we talking about here? Maybe another parent can then confirm the coach is a vindictive [lacrosse]hole, otherwise I'm placing my bet on the kid being a nightmare as well as the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Not sure why the HS coach should hide the fact that a kid is a sh*t? You keep bringing up the shortcomings of the coach, address the kid's issues, not the adults.

Why do you assume the kid did anything wrong?

So holdbacks are OK? Listen I don't care about holdbacks, I don't do it and I don't care if you do it. But way too many parents on BOTC freak out about it, then they give a pass to the guy who does it, saying hey it's OK it made it more competitive. Either it's OK or it's not. Can't have it both ways. His actions and his kids actions showed all the other parents that a year can make a difference. How do you know someone didn't hold back their kid after seeing this?

This is how a D-1 program is run, not "sprints until you puke"

In multiple discussions throughout the offseason, Tiffany has made discipline and player responsibility a priority during his first year at the helm of the Virginia program. Bringing over a concept from Brown, Tiffany formed the "Sabre Committee," which consists of the three captains, as well as representatives from the freshman, sophomore and junior classes and meets with Tiffany about team issues, giving players ownership of the decision-making process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

ig glue.... clever!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

OB - seriously?? Just because they get into LIC by virtue of no other teams in Class D does not make them Top 10. EVERY other team in Class C is better than they are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week...

You brought all this up, then got defensive, I assume much like your BRAT of a son. I'm sure that is the issue. You should all go hug each other. GOT IT DUMMY! Do me a favor go [lacrosse]*k yourself you self absorbed jerk.

Listen DUMMY, I have no idea what your incoherent post even means... Don't worry about mine. Well adjusted young man, just like Dad. You? Not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Actually you're 100% wrong. Know first hand of a current top ten coach that ran his team this past fall until kids puked. Further, one kid passed out. He then punished the team with even more running because the one kid passed out. Oh and the initial running was just "conditioning". You Sir, have no idea what these Coaches are capable of.
Oh, did you see the big guy on side lines for Hop last night? You are aware that as little as a 3 or 4 years ago he made his players run from Homewood field to the USNA. Because he didn't like the way they were practicing. Get a map out and see how far that is??? Its about as far off as your understanding of how things ARE handled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Actually you're 100% wrong. Know first hand of a current top ten coach that ran his team this past fall until kids puked. Further, one kid passed out. He then punished the team with even more running because the one kid passed out. Oh and the initial running was just "conditioning". You Sir, have no idea what these Coaches are capable of.
Oh, did you see the big guy on side lines for Hop last night? You are aware that as little as a 3 or 4 years ago he made his players run from Homewood field to the USNA. Because he didn't like the way they were practicing. Get a map out and see how far that is??? Its about as far off as your understanding of how things ARE handled.

~32 Miles?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week...

You brought all this up, then got defensive, I assume much like your BRAT of a son. I'm sure that is the issue. You should all go hug each other. GOT IT DUMMY! Do me a favor go [lacrosse]*k yourself you self absorbed jerk.

Listen DUMMY, I have no idea what your incoherent post even means... Don't worry about mine. Well adjusted young man, just like Dad. You? Not so much.

You're a cry baby, so is your son, that's why he got blacklisted. Funny if he's committed, no worries so name the HS he attends, or is your entire post BS just like your son's attitude. Next time STUPID don't post your kids emotional issues on BOTC, MORON

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Actually you're 100% wrong. Know first hand of a current top ten coach that ran his team this past fall until kids puked. Further, one kid passed out. He then punished the team with even more running because the one kid passed out. Oh and the initial running was just "conditioning". You Sir, have no idea what these Coaches are capable of.
Oh, did you see the big guy on side lines for Hop last night? You are aware that as little as a 3 or 4 years ago he made his players run from Homewood field to the USNA. Because he didn't like the way they were practicing. Get a map out and see how far that is??? Its about as far off as your understanding of how things ARE handled.

If you know first hand, name the school, or just more of your silliness and nonsense. You have no clue, as your entire post is NONSENSE. Your son is a self absorbed di*k bag just like you, therefore his HS coach told the college coach as such. Guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

OB is not top 10 but did make the semi-finals in Class C last year. Teams in a higher class that they beat include Hicksville, Friends Academy, Carle Place, Wheatley, Malverne, Calhoun, Herricks, Plainview. Newest Varsity program in Nassau, only been around a few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

OB - seriously?? Just because they get into LIC by virtue of no other teams in Class D does not make them Top 10. EVERY other team in Class C is better than they are!

Thank you captain Obvious, it was a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have raised a serious topic, but have provided little detail. What is the issue with the coach? Are you saying he just doesn't like your son? That sounds very odd. I have encountered many coaches in my life. None have put personal likes or dislikes in front of a young man's education/future. Even those coaches who were complete ball breakers. There has to be more to this story. Can you elaborate?

This is a serious topic, HS coaches shouldn't play God with a kids future. Don't like a kid? Keep it to yourself. As for trying to sell a college coach on another player? Save that for another call.

Agreed. No idea what the answer is... Your F'ed either way a parent.
Only advice to help limit vindictive Coach, is have your SON ask HS coach, if he would offer college recommendation. If answer is YES, ask HS coach for permission to copy on College email correspondence...and/ or ask HS coach to copy (player) on email recommendations send to College Coach...
AND DO NOT experiment this with your son's first choice...

Not sure why the HS coach should hide the fact that a kid is a sh*t? You keep bringing up the shortcomings of the coach, address the kid's issues, not the adults.

Why do you assume the kid did anything wrong?

So holdbacks are OK? Listen I don't care about holdbacks, I don't do it and I don't care if you do it. But way too many parents on BOTC freak out about it, then they give a pass to the guy who does it, saying hey it's OK it made it more competitive. Either it's OK or it's not. Can't have it both ways. His actions and his kids actions showed all the other parents that a year can make a difference. How do you know someone didn't hold back their kid after seeing this?

you are starting an argument with yourself, nobody has said anything about hold backs so I do not understand your rant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Actually you're 100% wrong. Know first hand of a current top ten coach that ran his team this past fall until kids puked. Further, one kid passed out. He then punished the team with even more running because the one kid passed out. Oh and the initial running was just "conditioning". You Sir, have no idea what these Coaches are capable of.
Oh, did you see the big guy on side lines for Hop last night? You are aware that as little as a 3 or 4 years ago he made his players run from Homewood field to the USNA. Because he didn't like the way they were practicing. Get a map out and see how far that is??? Its about as far off as your understanding of how things ARE handled.

If you know first hand, name the school, or just more of your silliness and nonsense. You have no clue, as your entire post is NONSENSE. Your son is a self absorbed di*k bag just like you, therefore his HS coach told the college coach as such. Guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Hey PUNK, you had better watch your step. I know one of the monitors on this board, not too hard to figure out who you are. You don't know me or my son. I'll tell you one thing, keep running your mouth and we're going to get introduced. I never said anything about your kid. As far as my posts are concerned above, 100% accurate. BTW, mines committed and had many choices, and his HS Coach loves him. Be careful there key board tough guy.

You're a clown! You know a monitor? I'm terrified! Loser, still haven't given one detail to verify you're bs post though. You posted the information then when you didn't like what you read got personal. What did you provide anyone here? Just your whining.

From the Chammy site>>>>>

Breaking news from last nights Chammy sports meeting.!!It is being reported that Chammy will combine the frosh/JV players and have them play varsity this year and have the current Juniors/Seniors play the Chammy frosh schedule. The reason being since all Jr's/Sr's are committed to top D1 schools no use in playing the varsity schedule. The frosh/Sophs who also are all committed to top D1 schools will get some experience this year playing varsity schedule. Next year Chammy will play a full MLL schedule which will include professional box and field seasons. NCAA has ruled that because Chammy is the top rated school in the country all players will keep their amateur status. Chammy red will be the official color for USA lacrosse.

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Hey PUNK, you had better watch your step. I know one of the monitors on this board, not too hard to figure out who you are. You don't know me or my son. I'll tell you one thing, keep running your mouth and we're going to get introduced. I never said anything about your kid. As far as my posts are concerned above, 100% accurate. BTW, mines committed and had many choices, and his HS Coach loves him. Be careful there key board tough guy. [/quote]

Ah the irony - calling another guy a keyboard tough guy all the while invoking a threat of your own. As a third party watching this banter play out between you two, it's laughable that you did exactly what you criticized.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey PUNK, you had better watch your step. I know one of the monitors on this board, not too hard to figure out who you are. You don't know me or my son. I'll tell you one thing, keep running your mouth and we're going to get introduced. I never said anything about your kid. As far as my posts are concerned above, 100% accurate. BTW, mines committed and had many choices, and his HS Coach loves him. Be careful there key board tough guy. [/quote]

Ah the irony - calling another guy a keyboard tough guy all the while invoking a threat of your own. As a third party watching this banter play out between you two, it's laughable that you did exactly what you criticized. [/quote]

Perfect post. I really love the "we're going to get introduced" line....

Best midfield in Nassau is CSH and Smithtown East in Suffolk - includes faceoffs ...

oh yeah...well I know someone who monitors this board so you are wrong

Good call.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coach telling the kids he's going to run them until they puke...that's a program that isn't winning much. Not sure you have any dealings with a D-1 program, because that just isn't happening. More likely, if your parents call to complain you'll never see the field. Then you're life will be made miserable until you leave the program. That's reality. Running til you puke is what HS coaches do.

Actually you're 100% wrong. Know first hand of a current top ten coach that ran his team this past fall until kids puked. Further, one kid passed out. He then punished the team with even more running because the one kid passed out. Oh and the initial running was
just "conditioning". You Sir, have no idea what these Coaches are capable of.
Oh, did you see the big guy on side lines for Hop last night? You are aware that as little
as a 3 or 4 years ago he made his players run from Homewood field to the USNA. Because he didn't like the way they were practicing. Get a map out and see how far that is??? Its about as far off as your understanding of how things ARE handled.

If you know first hand, name the school, or just more of your silliness and nonsense. You have no clue, as your entire post is NONSENSE. Your son is a self absorbed di*k bag just like you, therefore his HS coach told the college coach as such. Guess the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Hey PUNK, you had better watch your step. I know one of the monitors on this board, not too hard to figure out who you are. You don't know me or my son. I'll tell you one thing, keep running your mouth and we're going to get introduced. I never said anything about your kid. As far as my posts are concerned above, 100% accurate. BTW, mines committed and had many choices, and his HS Coach loves him. Be careful there key board tough guy.

Lighten up... Francis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

oh yeah...well I know someone who monitors this board so you are wrong

Edward Snowden ?

So the coach who blacklisted also loves the blacklistee?

You two should fight after school, behind the building like most 6th graders do! Geez

ok that's it!!! to the monitors office with you!!!

Is that like a hall monitor?

you better watch your step. you looking to get introduced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

oh yeah...well I know someone who monitors this board so you are wrong

Putin?

one time, at band camp..I got introduced to the monitor

is it the same as bathroom monitor.....and can a gender fluid person be a monitor

Monitor lizards have long necks, powerful tails and claws, and well-developed limbs. Or...A monitor was a relatively small warship which was neither fast nor strongly armoured but carried disproportionately large guns (sounds like a few lax dads I know).....Or People who closely monitor themselves are categorized as high self-monitors and often behave in a manner that is highly responsive to social cues and their situational context. High self-monitors can be thought of as social pragmatists who project images in an attempt to impress others and receive positive feedback.

The Monitor is a newspaper that covers international and United States current events

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you better watch your step. you looking to get introduced?

2.make (someone) known by name to another in person, especially formally:

"I hope to introduce Jenny to them very soon"

synonyms: present (formally) � make known � acquaint with

No introduction needed!

as far as introductions go...

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of shots and saves
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many soul to waste

And I was 'round when Jimmy Brown
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Chanenchuck
Washed his hands and held extra clinics

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my URL
But what's pissing you off
Is the nature of my anonymity

Please to meet you
hope you guess my name . . . .

or at least know a moderator that will tell it to you . . ..

hahaha....tremendous.

that ladies and gents is a TKO...down goes tough guy

Best post ever !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you believe HS coaches are irrelevant, you are not in the process. Common sense dictates that the coach you are PAYING is going to be biased in a positive manner toward the player. Basically a HS coach has no axe to grind with a kid, unless there is something going on, such as a disaster of a parent or the kid is a cancer on the team.
If the college coach already knew about these players why did he bother with the call to the coach? Sounds like he knew all he needed to know. The HS coach gave him his opinion and the college coach didn't like it? Sounds really odd to me. What HS are we talking about here?

Actually, done with the process. Of the 6 schools very interested, only ONE called the HS Coach. Again, if you read my post, I was talking about a HS Coach who has a profit motive, there are plenty. Some will be pissed that you chose to play travel over School Summer team. When the College Coach speaks to the Club Coach, he can let him know that the HS Coach has an axe to grind because you didn't pay to play!!! Get it now, Dummy?
For those kids whose parents are a problem, I assure you, if the College Coach thinks the kids skill set will help win games, he'll deal with it. Simply by telling his players if I get one call from one your parents, you'll ALL run till you puke everyday next week...

You brought all this up, then got defensive, I assume much like your BRAT of a son. I'm sure that is the issue. You should all go hug each other. GOT IT DUMMY! Do me a favor go [lacrosse]*k yourself you self absorbed jerk.

Listen DUMMY, I have no idea what your incoherent post even means... Don't worry about mine. Well adjusted young man, just like Dad. You? Not so much.

You're a cry baby, so is your son, that's why he got blacklisted. Funny if he's committed, no worries so name the HS he attends, or is your entire post BS just like your son's attitude. Next time STUPID don't post your kids emotional issues on BOTC, MORON

Hey PUNK! F78K off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're a clown! You know a monitor? I'm terrified! Loser, still haven't given one detail to verify you're bs post though. You posted the information then when you didn't like what you read got personal. What did you provide anyone here? Just your whining.

Hey PUNK, watch your step! We'll soon be introduced.

Monitor-Deluge guns are often fitted to fire boats, tug boats, and on top of large fire trucks for use in manual firefighting efforts, where they can be aimed and operated by one firefighter and are used to deliver water or foam from outside the immediate area of the fire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best post ever !

yup!

What's with the PUNK thing? Does that mean you're yelling?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with the PUNK thing? Does that mean you're yelling?

punk

/pəNGk/

noun

noun: punk; noun: punk rock; plural noun: punk rocks; plural noun: punks

1.

a loud, fast-moving, and aggressive form of rock music, popular in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

�an admirer or player of punk rock, typically characterized by colored spiked hair and clothing decorated with safety pins or zippers.
noun: punk rocker; plural noun: punk rockers

2.

North Americaninformal
a worthless person (often used as a general term of abuse).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with the PUNK thing? Does that mean you're yelling?

punk

/pəNGk/

noun

noun: punk; noun: punk rock; plural noun: punk rocks; plural noun: punks

1.

a loud, fast-moving, and aggressive form of rock music, popular in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

�an admirer or player of punk rock, typically characterized by colored spiked hair and clothing decorated with safety pins or zippers.
noun: punk rocker; plural noun: punk rockers

2.

North Americaninformal
a worthless person (often used as a general term of abuse).

I think he is in a band. Wants to be introduced

So it's a punk band?

Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?

I got it.....PUNKY Brewster, darling of tv from the early 90's.

C'mon people......Sympathy for The Devil, Punky Brewster, Dirty Harry.....haven't we gone off the rails here?!?!?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

C'mon people......Sympathy for The Devil, Punky Brewster, Dirty Harry.....haven't we gone off the rails here?!?!?!

just tryin' to capture the spirit of the thing

Syosett will pay for your fing punks

Wasn't there a tv show called "Punked"?

Punk: the incense stick we used to light up and wave around as kids...

who is coaching St Dominic's this year?

Same coach as last year....and year before that..and year before that...

who ? the guy in the stands who cheers for and "coaches" only his own kid?

Cmon', be more specific...you just described 95% of Lax parents.....
Always love to watch fellow parents when another player--not THEIR kid-- does something good....travel or HS or PAL lax...kills them that it was not their prodigy....the most selfish sport ever...

Agree %100. It's really a toxic sport. The only team sport that's all about "me me."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cmon', be more specific...you just described 95% of Lax parents.....
Always love to watch fellow parents when another player--not THEIR kid-- does something good....travel or HS or PAL lax...kills them that it was not their prodigy....the most selfish sport ever...

you know how to tell the parent of the kid with the ball? he is the only one NOT yelling "pass the ball"

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cmon', be more specific...you just described 95% of Lax parents.....
Always love to watch fellow parents when another player--not THEIR kid-- does something good....travel or HS or PAL lax...kills them that it was not their prodigy....the most selfish sport ever...

you know how to tell the parent of the kid with the ball? he is the only one NOT yelling "pass the ball"

so true....

So, none of the posters on here ever say the same exact things? Because if everyone does it, well then we all do it.

steely dan....pretzel logic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

to a horrendous D 1 program i'll bet...but hey its D1 , right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

OB - seriously?? Just because they get into LIC by virtue of no other teams in Class D does not make them Top 10. EVERY other team in Class C is better than they are!

Thank you captain Obvious, it was a joke

I believe South Side has been over the last 2 yrs and should be put in the top ten. They have not lost really anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here are my predictions for the top ten in Nassau

#1) CSH - sometimes little is better
#2) GC - just imagine if they could keep kids from Chaminade
#3) Syo - they will stick together like ig glue
#4) LV - will be better then expected
#5) 'Set - #26 and #61 apparently are very good
#6) Mass - lots of young talent
#7) Lyn - will be a tough out
#8) Want - getting closer every year
#9) Farm - lost a ton but always scrappy
#10) Oyster Bay - clear sailing to LIC

OB - seriously?? Just because they get into LIC by virtue of no other teams in Class D does not make them Top 10. EVERY other team in Class C is better than they are!

Thank you captain Obvious, it was a joke

I believe South Side has been over the last 2 yrs and should be put in the top ten. They have not lost really anyone.

The committee just had a conference call to discuss your request and after further consideration South Side is still not in the top ten, mostly because your post left out a word. " South Side has been _____ over the last two years"? you left out what they have been.

And the fact that "they have not lost really anyone" is also a strange way of saying "they really have not lost anyone".

The committee feels that they didn't have that much to lose so not losing that much does not make them better it just doesn't make them worse. in case you are still wondering, the vote was unanimous to leave them out ( 1-0 ).

Assistant coach is also a jerk for constantly chirping 16 year olds on the other team.

South Side is a good squad - not sure of depth and midfield but if they start to roll they could surprise.....

That is really funny, thanks for a mid day chuckle! Can I be on the committee too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

O'Keefe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is really funny, thanks for a mid day chuckle! Can I be on the committee too?

all applicants are welcome send your application to
mykidsbetterthanyourkid@GCLAx.com

the committee will vote on your acceptance - don't hold your breath though, it will probably be denied, unanimously, one to nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

O'Keefe?

yes - in shocking news, he decided to leave Penn St. after two non productive games and return to Syosset for his fifth year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

O'Keefe?

yes - in shocking news, he decided to leave Penn St. after two non productive games and return to Syosset for his fifth year

No, delisted and is going to the Hill Academy for a PG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

O'Keefe?

No jackass O'Keefe is at pen state and has 11 goals in 2 games

yes - in shocking news, he decided to leave Penn St. after two non productive games and return to Syosset for his fifth year

No, delisted and is going to the Hill Academy for a PG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]or " go to the cage" !!!!!. I know who the Doms dad is to whom you referred to prior. he is painful and embarrassing.
another authority on lax.

Really big kid ?

Committed attack left is now at Syosset.

O'Keefe?

No jackass O'Keefe is at pen state and has 11 goals in 2 games

yes - in shocking news, he decided to leave Penn St. after two non productive games and return to Syosset for his fifth year

No, delisted and is going to the Hill Academy for a PG.

[/quote

what is a PG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is a PG?

post graduate - they year between graduating HS and starting college, also known as prep ( college preparatory school )

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

How did your Freshman son do? Rode the pine?

Are you kiddding me? I'm from csh NOT syosset, but give credit where credit is due. Kid is a phenomenal player. Name the last Freshman anywhere to put up 11 goals Back to back vs. any D1 team. ANd you mock Robert Morris...I'm sure your dusty a$$ wouldn't get above goal line extended before their D-man separated you from your stick. Hs talent is so deep and relatively few D1 programs ALL the kids playing at that level are very good. Nice start to hopefully a great career. Go LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

How did your Freshman son do? Rode the pine?

They kid played for team USA!!! Not bad accomplishment!

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You sir are an absolute Idiot...

by the way its the big fat kid...he might be fat, but darn it ..at least he's slow!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

Yep, team USA standout and 11 goals in his first 2 D1 games. So overrated. Remember, easy boys. Hahahahaha, what a jerk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Robert Morris and Hobart nothing to brag about. Easy boys

Yep, team USA standout and 11 goals in his first 2 D1 games. So overrated. Remember, easy boys. Hahahahaha, what a jerk.

Don't listen to any of us jerks on BOTC... Listen to Paul Carcaterra - he had O'Keefe at the best player in the tri-state last year.

http://www.news12varsity.com/the-carc-report-03-31-16-1.1789382

Pretty good call...

Ok everyone relax. O'Keefe is at Penn State as a freshman. Kicking some serious [lacrosse] by the way in his first 2 games in college.

This conversation is about a 11th grade player that transfered from St. Dominics to Syosset. He is committed to a D1 program. This will end that conversation. Please let's respect our players from Long Island. So much hate in this group. Rather than support our players we knock them makes very little sense.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Ok everyone relax. O'Keefe is at Penn State as a freshman. Kicking some serious [lacrosse] by the way in his first 2 games in college.

This conversation is about a 11th grade player that transfered from St. Dominics to Syosset. He is committed to a D1 program. This will end that conversation. Please let's respect our players from Long Island. So much hate in this group. Rather than support our players we knock them makes very little sense.

Thank you AG

Long Island's own won the Big 10 Freshman of the Week for the first two weeks of the season.

LI's best HS conference can't compare to MIAA A in MD....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island's own won the Big 10 Freshman of the Week for the first two weeks of the season.

So did another LI Freshman from Penn State, Go LI !!!

PS played nobody. O wait they still play nobody penn, furman,harvard,fairfield,clevland (thats a tough one O keefe should have 20 goals, then lets see what he does against ohio st, JH, and Rutgers . They play 3 game all year what a joke of a schedule. Okeefe father who was a hack could put up those numbers with that schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island's own won the Big 10 Freshman of the Week for the first two weeks of the season.

So did another LI Freshman from Penn State, Go LI !!!

Um same kid, but I agree GO LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI's best HS conference can't compare to MIAA A in MD....

So?

Baltimore might have a better league. Tough to argue that it has better players or teams, however.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PS played nobody. O wait they still play nobody penn, furman,harvard,fairfield,clevland (thats a tough one O keefe should have 20 goals, then lets see what he does against ohio st, JH, and Rutgers . They play 3 game all year what a joke of a schedule. Okeefe father who was a hack could put up those numbers with that schedule

What did your kid do the past two weeks tool ???

Yes a group of 19 year olds will beat a public school. With some stud 10th, 11th , and some seniors, but at the end of the day check the top 20 teams top players, LI rules period stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island's own won the Big 10 Freshman of the Week for the first two weeks of the season.

So did another LI Freshman from Penn State, Go LI !!!

Um same kid, but I agree GO LI

No, Two different LI boys garnered awards this past week. Specialist and Freshman of the week were 2 different players both standout Li players.

This week's freshman of the week, won Offensive and freshman of the week last week. Way to go regardless of Comp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI's best HS conference can't compare to MIAA A in MD....

So?

Baltimore might have a better league. Tough to argue that it has better players or teams, however.

And the number of D1 commits from MD continues to go down, while LI stays steady.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PS played nobody. O wait they still play nobody penn, furman,harvard,fairfield,clevland (thats a tough one O keefe should have 20 goals, then lets see what he does against ohio st, JH, and Rutgers . They play 3 game all year what a joke of a schedule. Okeefe father who was a hack could put up those numbers with that schedule

You are sad person really... Making comments about a 19 year old kid who is unarguably amongst the very best freshman class players this year. The kid was a HS AA and an impact player on the U19 Championship Team. Those are hard facts.

Go crawl back under your rock.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PS played nobody. O wait they still play nobody penn, furman,harvard,fairfield,clevland (thats a tough one O keefe should have 20 goals, then lets see what he does against ohio st, JH, and Rutgers . They play 3 game all year what a joke of a schedule. Okeefe father who was a hack could put up those numbers with that schedule

The kid is a great kid and also happens to be the best freshman in the country, soon to be one of the best players in the country. And the father was a hack??? Please tell us what PROFESSIONAL lacrosse team you played on, [lacrosse].

Penn State coach was coach of USA TEAM ?? Of course he was on it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State coach was coach of USA TEAM ?? Of course he was on it

Get help, you are a sick, sick person.

Pathetic really.

The guy whose kid is excelling on X Box this week is telling everyone on here that the Big 10 freshman of the week X 2 sucks. Do everyone a favor, take the cup cake out of Juniors mouth and the controller out of his hand and have him play some lacrosse you jealous di*k head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State coach was coach of USA TEAM ?? Of course he was on it

What an [lacrosse]hole you are just jealous that you couldn't come near either O'Keefe

I am sure the bashing is coming from a Syosett parent, lol. Your town is a bunch of arrogant losers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure the bashing is coming from a Syosett parent, lol. Your town is a bunch of arrogant losers.

No jerk off, not a Syo parent, give credit where it is do, you're a pathetic loser with a fat little whiny b*tch of a son who sucks at sports so you spew nonsense here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure the bashing is coming from a Syosett parent, lol. Your town is a bunch of arrogant losers.

Dude, the kid is from Syosset. Get a grip on reality.

He is a great athlete and was the best Lax player in the Tri-state as a senior last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am sure the bashing is coming from a Syosett parent, lol. Your town is a bunch of arrogant losers.

Dude, the kid is from Syosset. Get a grip on reality.

He is a great athlete and was the best Lax player in the Tri-state as a senior last year.

Don't entertain this trolling loser, he's a lousy parent who's raised a little cherub of a lad. Lacrosse is what he dreamed for cherub, unfortunately, Cherub likes video games and snack cakes more, dream demolished, loser dad comes on BOTC to bash a great lacrosse player.

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

You are the punk, or should I say the stupid punk. Learn howf to spell Syosset you idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

I guess they didn't teach logic or spelling at the school you attended. Your statement is illogical and you can't spell.

Not bashing.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

That's funny...would love to know what town you are from. Hater. Sounds like jealousy. Academics & Athletics not as good in your district? Who would say that ALL the kids are punks, typical BOTC poster using assumptions and generalizations as a rule of thumb. Jacka$$. And whoever is posting about the O'Keefe's must be another jealous scum - couldn't be a harder worker or more deserving kid of the accolades and the dad is a great guy who is also a Syosset alum and has more knowledge of the game and talent than most of you could hope for. We're lucky to have someone with his resume who has given his time to the youth program and is always happy to give back to the town he grew up in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

We hate you f.cking tool bag!!!

BOTC you guys should be ashamed posting this nonsense that's why so many people have left this site. You guys must be really desperate!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTC you guys should be ashamed posting this nonsense that's why so many people have left this site. You guys must be really desperate!

Do you have the exact number and names of all the people who have left this site? Evidently you haven't left

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

You are the punk, or should I say the stupid punk. Learn howf to spell Syosset you idiot.

I guess you got all caught up in your disgust of the original posters spelling of 'Syosett' that you forgot 'howf' to spell yourself.
If you are going to be the spelling police, at least take the 2 seconds to make sure you didn't spell anything incorrectly

What about ***** and **** and **** ?Oh can we say that? Or can we only say ****, ****, wait. Wait I edited myselfto annoy the moderator. "Who could he possible be talking about when he types ****. I think that org, that guy is a **** guy. h8b4kv

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bashing, love the player. Just hate Syosett , kids are all punks.

That's funny...would love to know what town you are from. Hater. Sounds like jealousy. Academics & Athletics not as good in your district? Who would say that ALL the kids are punks, typical BOTC poster using assumptions and generalizations as a rule of thumb. Jacka$$. And whoever is posting about the O'Keefe's must be another jealous scum - couldn't be a harder worker or more deserving kid of the accolades and the dad is a great guy who is also a Syosset alum and has more knowledge of the game and talent than most of you could hope for. We're lucky to have someone with his resume who has given his time to the youth program and is always happy to give back to the town he grew up in.

The guy who said this is the guy who got you to respond to an obvious hook.

Use al i bunk of pumks!!!!
syoset rule!

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTC you guys should be ashamed posting this nonsense that's why so many people have left this site. You guys must be really desperate!

Do you have the exact number and names of all the people who have left this site? Evidently you haven't left

This guy is right, people have left because of all the nonsence, and who are you Mr. Miller.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTC you guys should be ashamed posting this nonsense that's why so many people have left this site. You guys must be really desperate!

Do you have the exact number and names of all the people who have left this site? Evidently you haven't left

This guy is right, people have left because of all the nonsence, and who are you Mr. Miller.

Mr. Anonymous - My advice is don't start with Mr. Miller, he owns the site, decides what does and does not get posted....he will end you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOTC you guys should be ashamed posting this nonsense that's why so many people have left this site. You guys must be really desperate!

Do you have the exact number and names of all the people who have left this site? Evidently you haven't left

This guy is right, people have left because of all the nonsence, and who are you Mr. Miller.

I'll tell you exactly who I am. I'm Larry Miller. Now I will tell you who you are. You are a nobody. Does that clear it up for you?

Bond.......James Bond

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bond.......James Bond

Like I wrote..another puts with an internet connection...bye bye

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PS played nobody. O wait they still play nobody penn, furman,harvard,fairfield,clevland (thats a tough one O keefe should have 20 goals, then lets see what he does against ohio st, JH, and Rutgers . They play 3 game all year what a joke of a schedule. Okeefe father who was a hack could put up those numbers with that schedule

O'Keefe a joke had another 5 today against Cornell.

Whoever wrote this is an idiot and needs to get a life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whoever wrote this is an idiot and needs to get a life!

Why is that? Take it as O'Keefe had a great day! Making fun of the post above

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

Penn State is looking great. Got some challenges at the tail end of their schedule but love to see the Big Ten dominating. O'Keefe, Triolo, Arceri making LI look good. But Tambroni and Toner are putting together some strong players for future years, including the 2020 big lefty and some strong players from all over the eastern seaboard. Good stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Okay lefties dad, thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

Penn State is looking great. Got some challenges at the tail end of their schedule but love to see the Big Ten dominating. O'Keefe, Triolo, Arceri making LI look good. But Tambroni and Toner are putting together some strong players for future years, including the 2020 big lefty and some strong players from all over the eastern seaboard. Good stuff.

I will be super surprised if that lefty even ends up at PSU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Okay lefties dad, thanks.

What about Brown's freshman from Ct yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Okay lefties dad, thanks.

What about Brown's freshman from Ct yesterday

Great day for that kid, however It was despicable how Brown beat Q into the ground yesterday in order to pad stats. Extremely unsportsmanlike! PSU could have done the same thing to Cornell but pulled all starters in beginning of 2nd half. There is no need for a differential exceeding 15 goals. Same goes for Princeton and Maryland, although MD pulled starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Okay lefties dad, thanks.

What about Brown's freshman from Ct yesterday

Great day for that kid, however It was despicable how Brown beat Q into the ground yesterday in order to pad stats. Extremely unsportsmanlike! PSU could have done the same thing to Cornell but pulled all starters in beginning of 2nd half. There is no need for a differential exceeding 15 goals. Same goes for Princeton and Maryland, although MD pulled starters.

Mom, can you stop. This is D1 lacrosse not PAL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

O'Keefe and PSU are off to a great start. Should be the top freshman class. Big contests await. That Ament is some special player as well!

O'Keefe is very talented player!!!!

We know mom!! The lefty headed there in a few years is better thsn all of them. Good thing he's not going earlier, sounds like some big egos to contend with!

Okay lefties dad, thanks.

What about Brown's freshman from Ct yesterday

Great day for that kid, however It was despicable how Brown beat Q into the ground yesterday in order to pad stats. Extremely unsportsmanlike! PSU could have done the same thing to Cornell but pulled all starters in beginning of 2nd half. There is no need for a differential exceeding 15 goals. Same goes for Princeton and Maryland, although MD pulled starters.

every story has 3 sides. That coach plays a high scoring offense when he can look at tufts last year the year before and the year before that. Dont like it, thats your opinion. May be shared by others but is what it is.

Hey idiot if that kid was going next year to Penn state 2 lefties would be starting at attack!

[quote=Anonymous]Hey idiot if that kid was going next year to Penn state 2 lefties would be starting at attack! [/quote

Easy there, HS and D1 are two different animals! Every kid out there is an All-American ripping it up in HS ball. Excelling on the collegiate level is like the difference between a regular and AP class. Lets not jump the gun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Hey idiot if that kid was going next year to Penn state 2 lefties would be starting at attack! [/quote

Easy there, HS and D1 are two different animals! Every kid out there is an All-American ripping it up in HS ball. Excelling on the collegiate level is like the difference between a regular and AP class. Lets not jump the gun.

Just like some kids breeze through APs young. Can't wait to se him at he next level. Maybe he graduates early like in football and gets on campus for spring

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

They should be happy in the hunt, why do you think they won't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

They should be happy in the hunt, why do you think they won't.

My statement as to what's happening in Massapequa was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning St Dominic's immigrants & Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

They should be happy in the hunt, why do you think they won't.

My statement as to what's happening in Massapequa was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning St Dominic's immigrants & Syosset.

?????? I thought this was about Pequa, what the are immigrants and Syosset when it comes to lacrosse. #confused

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

They should be happy in the hunt, why do you think they won't.

My statement as to what's happening in Massapequa was in reference to a story that was broadcast on @FoxNews concerning St Dominic's immigrants & Syosset.

?????? I thought this was about Pequa, what the are immigrants and Syosset when it comes to lacrosse. #confused

If you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer, If you don't get the joke it probably wasn't that funny or you have not watched the real or fake news in the last 48 hours. Syosset has everything to do with whether or not Massapequa is in the hunt.

WE ARE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WE ARE

PENN STATE!

is Syosset going to be good this year?

ever notice that Manhasset people never post any stupid comments or bragging on this site(BOTC)? its always seems to be Suffolk county , including CSH , then in Nassau its Syosset and GC. why is that? Manhasset too classy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ever notice that Manhasset people never post any stupid comments or bragging on this site(BOTC)? its always seems to be Suffolk county , including CSH , then in Nassau its Syosset and GC. why is that? Manhasset too classy?

I would bet it is neither CSH, Syosset or GC commenting and bragging, I would venture to guess it is some pathetic soul who has nothing better to do with their life than speculate and wishes that they had been part of such great institutions such has, CSH, Syosset or GC. This is not to say that there aren't other areas that stand out but it seems that whomever is wasting their time stirring the proverbial pot, likes to single out these 3. Yes, I have a job, I'm from Syosset, I'm at lunch so I'm not wasting company time or resources.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ever notice that Manhasset people never post any stupid comments or bragging on this site(BOTC)? its always seems to be Suffolk county , including CSH , then in Nassau its Syosset and GC. why is that? Manhasset too classy?

Manhasset as a community is notoriously stealth in all social media, it is the committees belief that they (Manhassetites) post pretending to be from other towns just to get people to say bad things about Garden City. Sad

maybe they are too classy to play this stupid game on the site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ever notice that Manhasset people never post any stupid comments or bragging on this site(BOTC)? its always seems to be Suffolk county , including CSH , then in Nassau its Syosset and GC. why is that? Manhasset too classy?

Manhasset people don't fraternize with common folk.

That's why...

Syosset loves this site. Great place to bash their own and at the same time claim they are the best. Delusional belief that the world revolves around them and everyone else should care what goes on in that town. Narcissistic just like their coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset loves this site. Great place to bash their own and at the same time claim they are the best. Delusional belief that the world revolves around them and everyone else should care what goes on in that town. Narcissistic just like their coach.

It's lonely at the top. We have to do something to entertain ourselves.

[quote=Anonymous]ever notice that Manhasset people never post any stupid comments or bragging on this site(BOTC)? its always seems to be Suffolk county , including CSH , then in Nassau its Syosset and GC. why is that? Manhasset too classy? [/quote

Says the guy from who knows where trying to get Syosset & GC folks to bash other towns. You're a troll and a loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Pequa pipeline strong for years to come. will be in the hunt for LI title again this year

that's funny!!!

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

......now that's funny......delusional dad thinking the chiefs are going to be in the hunt this year, that's sad

Thanks dad from Valley Stream North where lacrosse is king!

I think Pequa will be strong next year.

Set will be a completely different team this year with new coaching staff. It will be interesting to see if they step up the tempo. Syosset and Pequa will have a lot of new faces. CSH and GC will be pretty familiar. Does Wantagh, Lynbrook, SS and or Farmingdale have strong returning crew?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset loves this site. Great place to bash their own and at the same time claim they are the best. Delusional belief that the world revolves around them and everyone else should care what goes on in that town. Narcissistic just like their coach.

It's lonely at the top. We have to do something to entertain ourselves.

Says the guy from a town that was never at the top. Where is your state championship trophy hmmmmmm. Thought so.

Is LaxPower now a pay site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is LaxPower now a pay site

No - looks like the ratings and ranking are only now available via their mobile app, but the app appears to be free, but they make money on it via the ads.

yes its 100 dollars a month.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Pequa will be strong next year.

Very Strong especially with Powers coaching with them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes its 100 dollars a month.

Thnx for the unhelpful misinformation moron! It's either 3.99/mo, or 9.99/yr.

Any feedback on the 3 day sleepover fl$ Legit Showcase at LIU Post at end of June ? It's close to home and not too over priced so was wondering if it was worth it for our 2019 son. Are there many college coaches there and is it well run etc?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is LaxPower now a pay site

it is both free and a premium pay site, they have the regular site that is still free but no longer has standings and computer rankings, teams just listed in alphabetical order - the pay part is mobile app only and that will be the only way to see rankings is on a smart phone or tablet. the premium site is $3.99 a month or $9.99 for the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any feedback on the 3 day sleepover fl$ Legit Showcase at LIU Post at end of June ? It's close to home and not too over priced so was wondering if it was worth it for our 2019 son. Are there many college coaches there and is it well run etc?

Well run and lots of college coaches. That being said, there could be hundreds of coaches at this or any other showcase but it doesn't matter unless your son has an interest in some of the schools AND has contacted them to show his interest and let them know he will be attending.

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Where in the [lacrosse] did this come from? Probably pulled it out of your as*, because that list is way wrong. You sir are an idiot. If it came from IL, they are even more of an idiot than you.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Smithtown east is the only Public in the top 10. Let's see if they can bring it home this year!

Someone should, I'm too lazy to do it, compare this list to where these teams actually finish at the end of the season.
That's the list that really counts!

Nike poll is very different - look forward to seeing how this season plays out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone should, I'm too lazy to do it, compare this list to where these teams actually finish at the end of the season.
That's the list that really counts!

You're an idiot! Did you not know that kids graduate? It's about who's left!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Where in the [lacrosse] did this come from? Probably pulled it out of your as*, because that list is way wrong. You sir are an idiot. If it came from IL, they are even more of an idiot than you.

Why is it a bad list? Little Johnnys team not on it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Where in the [lacrosse] did this come from? Probably pulled it out of your as*, because that list is way wrong. You sir are an idiot. If it came from IL, they are even more of an idiot than you.

Wow take a deep breath. Its a ranking of high school teams that was put out by a lacrosse publication. Its just for conversation and not the end of the world. So i am an idiot and an as* you must be a 12 year old whose team wasnt ranked where they wanted them to be. I usually tell my kids to use their words. I just picture you arms flailing and typing away.

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Interesting... Especially with Manhasset at #16...

Go figure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Good point.

But, SE did not choke in 2015, they got beat by a wide margin. They did not score at all in the entire second half of the game.

Having said that SE likely has the most offensive firepower in Suffolk in 2017, but nobody should discount outstanding defense from the likes of programs such as WM.

It will be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

Smithtown east is the only Public in the top 10. Let's see if they can bring it home this year!

# 3 Darien is a public school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone should, I'm too lazy to do it, compare this list to where these teams actually finish at the end of the season.
That's the list that really counts!

You're an idiot! Did you not know that kids graduate? It's about who's left!

I believe that the gentleman from the great state of idiocy was saying he wants to compare to the end of next season not the end of last season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Because SE is stacked this year. 12 Senior D1 commits and a bunch of others as well. I seem to recall WM falling apart last year when it counted. Dismantled by Victor. WM does not have the talent to be ranked in the top 20 this year because they lost important players and have no replacement. Sorry dad

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

IMHO - LI is as follows

1) Chaminade
2) CSH
3) WM
4) St Anthony's
5) SWR

rest of the best - Syo, GC, SE, Man and Mass

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Pauls (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Interesting... Especially with Manhasset at #16...

Go figure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Pauls (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

GC down

really? GC is loaded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Good point.

But, SE did not choke in 2015, they got beat by a wide margin. They did not score at all in the entire second half of the game.

Having said that SE likely has the most offensive firepower in Suffolk in 2017, but nobody should discount outstanding defense from the likes of programs such as WM.

It will be interesting.

WM choked, beatdown by Victor. Were like deer in the headlight. Was hard to watch! Which is probably why the are ranking low. Smithtown lost their semi playoff in overtime after being up the whole game. Only losses last season were one goal, and they return most starters but fogo, and they have two studs ready to step in. They will be a complete team. But... we won't know until games are played so easy everyone, preseason rankings don't mean much as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any feedback on the 3 day sleepover fl$ Legit Showcase at LIU Post at end of June ? It's close to home and not too over priced so was wondering if it was worth it for our 2019 son. Are there many college coaches there and is it well run etc?

Well run and lots of college coaches. That being said, there could be hundreds of coaches at this or any other showcase but it doesn't matter unless your son has an interest in some of the schools AND has contacted them to show his interest and let them know he will be attending.

Awesome recruiting 101 primer. Many thanks from the entire greater BOTC community. The knowledge you have imparted on the rest of us is truly mind bending.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

IMHO - LI is as follows

1) Chaminade
2) CSH
3) WM
4) St Anthony's
5) SWR

rest of the best - Syo, GC, SE, Man and Mass

Ok CSH Daddy. That's funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Good point.

But, SE did not choke in 2015, they got beat by a wide margin. They did not score at all in the entire second half of the game.

Having said that SE likely has the most offensive firepower in Suffolk in 2017, but nobody should discount outstanding defense from the likes of programs such as WM.

It will be interesting.

WM choked, beatdown by Victor. Were like deer in the headlight. Was hard to watch! Which is probably why the are ranking low. Smithtown lost their semi playoff in overtime after being up the whole game. Only losses last season were one goal, and they return most starters but fogo, and they have two studs ready to step in. They will be a complete team. But... we won't know until games are played so easy everyone, preseason rankings don't mean much as far as I'm concerned.

I would hardly say losing to Victor by 2 is a choke when Victor's average margin of victory was almost 11 goals a game. WM was a very well coached, very disciplined team with great goalie and outstanding team and individual defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Every year HS teams must re-load but to think schools like SE, Syosset , LV can replace some of those lost pieces is insane. SE lost the best HS FO in the country and Syosset a HS top 5 attackman in the country. Those 2 have proven their merit on the national stage as well as the 2017 college season. It's possible they can be successful but in the words of Coach Boone " you can't replace a Gerry Bertier , next question". Titans did win ( in the movie , in real life Bertier gets paralyzed after the Championship) but w/o guys like that you need a great coaching job and real team chemistry.

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Every year HS teams must re-load but to think schools like SE, Syosset , LV can replace some of those lost pieces is insane. SE lost the best HS FO in the country and Syosset a HS top 5 attackman in the country. Those 2 have proven their merit on the national stage as well as the 2017 college season. It's possible they can be successful but in the words of Coach Boone " you can't replace a Gerry Bertier , next question". Titans did win ( in the movie , in real life Bertier gets paralyzed after the Championship) but w/o guys like that you need a great coaching job and real team chemistry.

Public High School teams can't "re-load".... they can just pull from who attends the school. Larger districts like, Syosset, Smithtown & Massapequa have a little more of the ability to back-fill talented seniors who graduate due to the size of the districts. There are a lot more players that you have access to....but there is no recruiting to re-load.

Much more difficult for the smaller districts to do this given the numbers in the district

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Every year HS teams must re-load but to think schools like SE, Syosset , LV can replace some of those lost pieces is insane. SE lost the best HS FO in the country and Syosset a HS top 5 attackman in the country. Those 2 have proven their merit on the national stage as well as the 2017 college season. It's possible they can be successful but in the words of Coach Boone " you can't replace a Gerry Bertier , next question". Titans did win ( in the movie , in real life Bertier gets paralyzed after the Championship) but w/o guys like that you need a great coaching job and real team chemistry.

Public High School teams can't "re-load".... they can just pull from who attends the school. Larger districts like, Syosset, Smithtown & Massapequa have a little more of the ability to back-fill talented seniors who graduate due to the size of the districts. There are a lot more players that you have access to....but there is no recruiting to re-load.

Much more difficult for the smaller districts to do this given the numbers in the district

re-load is a term for inserting players to replace departing players - ( they don't re-build, they re-load) and it is used in HS, College and Pro sports just to indicate that some teams never seem to have down (re-building) years they always re-load and are competitive, on LI I would say traditionally the public school teams that re-load year after year are GC, MANH, WI, WM and CSH - they all seem to stay competitive year after year while other teams have great peak years ( FARM, MASS, SYO, SE, SW and Friends) but mix those years with off or rebuilding years.

I agree about the larger schools having a bigger talent pool but I really think that it is more about tradition and youth programs otherwise you can not explain how CSH is competitive every year while much larger schools are not.

You can prognosticate in February all you want, I heard the Panthers were going back to the Super Bowl, how did that work out. Let's get back to this at the end of the lacrosse season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Well at least one of those middies played attack last year....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Yeah but there isnt a drop off when 2nd and 3rd lines are in. When a team has 1 or 2 good lines and their horses get tired and have to put in 3rd line a team thats deep with talent will dominate especially in the later part of a game.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Yeah but there isnt a drop off when 2nd and 3rd lines are in. When a team has 1 or 2 good lines and their horses get tired and have to put in 3rd line a team thats deep with talent will dominate especially in the later part of a game.

respectfully disagree, if you have no drop off from your first line to your third line then your first line is probably isn't that good. Colleges don't even play their third lines (ask any dad of a kid on the third line) - depth is good but I will take a team with a better top 10 any day of the week.

CSH never has depth, all they do is win, it is why the are hands down the best public school team on LI this year, not because of their third line but because of their starting 10.

Two Defenders are senior commits as well. Not sure where you are getting your info from

I agree. 3rd and 4th lines don't play unless its a blowout win.
practice/ scout team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two Defenders are senior commits as well. Not sure where you are getting your info from

SE has a defense? Are you pulling our leg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from ward Melville , but how is SE ranked over them, SE has choked the lastc2 years WM has not.because one kid dad on SE?

Good point.

But, SE did not choke in 2015, they got beat by a wide margin. They did not score at all in the entire second half of the game.

Having said that SE likely has the most offensive firepower in Suffolk in 2017, but nobody should discount outstanding defense from the likes of programs such as WM.

It will be interesting.

WM choked, beatdown by Victor. Were like deer in the headlight. Was hard to watch! Which is probably why the are ranking low. Smithtown lost their semi playoff in overtime after being up the whole game. Only losses last season were one goal, and they return most starters but fogo, and they have two studs ready to step in. They will be a complete team. But... we won't know until games are played so easy everyone, preseason rankings don't mean much
as far as I'm concerned.

Ward Melville is by far the most dominant HS program on the Island. Smithtown East is not even close. West Islip had a great run, Garden City, Manhasset, CHS, Syosset, Massapequa, Farmingdale and Lynbrook are all great programs as well but please do not put mention Smithtown East in the same sentence as Ward Melville or the other programs. I know some of you "public school nuts" will be upset but Don't mention Smithtown East in the same sentence as St Anthony's or Chaminade either. I went to a public HS and a public university and my kids attend public school but I cant stand listening to the nonsense about how the privates recruit.

Ward Melville has 1800 students in grades 10-12, SE has 1650 in 9-12, Syosset has 2159 9-12, GC has 1100 9-12, Manhasset has just over 1,000 9-12, CSH has just over 900 9-12. Massapequa has 1800 10-12, Farmingdale has 1900 9-12, Lynbrook has 900 9-12. So based on enrollment WM, Syosset, Massapequa and Farmingdale should be dominant. The mere fact that GC, Manhasset, CSH and Lynbrook can compete with schools that are close to twice their size speaks volumes about those programs.

I can only speak to GC and Manhasset, everyone knows they hold their kid back in first grade, that is a fact, it only takes 10 to play. So top with the extra kids

I would guess if the kids parents are smart in those 4 towns the best athletes are playing lacrosse, in my big town I can count 10 great athletes that play other sports not lacrosse and I say thank god.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Yeah but there isnt a drop off when 2nd and 3rd lines are in. When a team has 1 or 2 good lines and their horses get tired and have to put in 3rd line a team thats deep with talent will dominate especially in the later part of a game.

respectfully disagree, if you have no drop off from your first line to your third line then your first line is probably isn't that good. Colleges don't even play their third lines (ask any dad of a kid on the third line) - depth is good but I will take a team with a better top 10 any day of the week.

CSH never has depth, all they do is win, it is why the are hands down the best public school team on LI this year, not because of their third line but because of their starting 10.

I was speaking about a team that has 14 D1 commits. Of course there is some drop off from 1st to 3rd lines but if you have a team with that many commits there isnt the same drop off that there would be with a team that has only 4 commits.So the team with 4 commits has their studs running most of game the other team has the luxury of running a very good 2nd and even 3rd line. Eventually fatigue sets in for the team thats been running their top guys almost all game. Team with more depth will eventually prevail.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

according to LP, Smithtown East has 14 D1 commits, the problem is that 8 are middys and 2 more are mid-F/O so unless they can figure out how to get more then 3 middies on the field at one time it doesn't matter how good the 8 on the bench are. Obviously this is a good problem to have and does lessen the potential disaster of an injury to a key player but when you play top 10 v top 10 I still like WM chances.

Yeah but there isnt a drop off when 2nd and 3rd lines are in. When a team has 1 or 2 good lines and their horses get tired and have to put in 3rd line a team thats deep with talent will dominate especially in the later part of a game.

respectfully disagree, if you have no drop off from your first line to your third line then your first line is probably isn't that good. Colleges don't even play their third lines (ask any dad of a kid on the third line) - depth is good but I will take a team with a better top 10 any day of the week.

CSH never has depth, all they do is win, it is why the are hands down the best public school team on LI this year, not because of their third line but because of their starting 10.

I was speaking about a team that has 14 D1 commits. Of course there is some drop off from 1st to 3rd lines but if you have a team with that many commits there isnt the same drop off that there would be with a team that has only 4 commits.So the team with 4 commits has their studs running most of game the other team has the luxury of running a very good 2nd and even 3rd line. Eventually fatigue sets in for the team thats been running their top guys almost all game. Team with more depth will eventually prevail.

Just like they did in 201 , 2015, and 2016? SE has had tons on D1 commits the last 3 years but no LIC or beyond. Preseason rankings don't indicate much of anything other than the amount of lobbying that gets done during the off-season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville has 1800 students in grades 10-12, SE has 1650 in 9-12, Syosset has 2159 9-12, GC has 1100 9-12, Manhasset has just over 1,000 9-12, CSH has just over 900 9-12. Massapequa has 1800 10-12, Farmingdale has 1900 9-12, Lynbrook has 900 9-12. So based on enrollment WM, Syosset, Massapequa and Farmingdale should be dominant. The mere fact that GC, Manhasset, CSH and Lynbrook can compete with schools that are close to twice their size speaks volumes about those programs.

I would also put Wantagh in that mix

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville has 1800 students in grades 10-12, SE has 1650 in 9-12, Syosset has 2159 9-12, GC has 1100 9-12, Manhasset has just over 1,000 9-12, CSH has just over 900 9-12. Massapequa has 1800 10-12, Farmingdale has 1900 9-12, Lynbrook has 900 9-12. So based on enrollment WM, Syosset, Massapequa and Farmingdale should be dominant. The mere fact that GC, Manhasset, CSH and Lynbrook can compete with schools that are close to twice their size speaks volumes about those programs.

I would also put Wantagh in that mix

The brownie mix?

Ok WM dad, you got lucky getting off the Island last year, Then took a solid beating upstate and had to come home a loser. SE beat you to the LIC the two years previous and will again this year. Stop with your Dominant program. Recent results are not supporting that statement.

GC and Manhasset hold back their kids? You're an idiot. Why because your from Macarthur and got killed by them both? Go away simpleton.

Change topic, what does having D-1 commits have to do with anything? I know players out there that are not committed that can outplay the committed players, out dodge, out shoot, defensively shut them down. There are several on many of the schools that people on this board like to bash. Let's get a grip, most of the D-1 commits are due to parents and not the players, there are a few exceptions but I would say nearly 85% of the early commits are due to the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Change topic, what does having D-1 commits have to do with anything? I know players out there that are not committed that can outplay the committed players, out dodge, out shoot, defensively shut them down. There are several on many of the schools that people on this board like to bash. Let's get a grip, most of the D-1 commits are due to parents and not the players, there are a few exceptions but I would say nearly 85% of the early commits are due to the parents.

I would call this post stupid, but that would be a huge insult to all the stupid posts. If you are saying the number of early commits has little bearing on the teams future success we have a starting point for a discussion. But to claim that the only reason kids get an early commit is because of the parents is "fake news", Kids ability, College coaches interest as well as travel teams marketing of the kid all have major roles in the ER and yes the parents play a large part but to think that a parent can force a college to commit to their kid is just stupid.

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

while the bulk of that post is way off. the fact is that some commits are in fact facilitated by a parent. for example a legacy family member with a building named for them at an IVY, parent who volunteers up front to pay full freight or better, a kid committing to a horrible program desperate for any one ( yes look at bottom of D1) parent presents a marginal player who has a sky high GPA. there are spots on the 55-60+ roster for these kids.
no way near the 85% quoted...maybe a small percentage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Change topic, what does having D-1 commits have to do with anything? I know players out there that are not committed that can outplay the committed players, out dodge, out shoot, defensively shut them down. There are several on many of the schools that people on this board like to bash. Let's get a grip, most of the D-1 commits are due to parents and not the players, there are a few exceptions but I would say nearly 85% of the early commits are due to the parents.

I would call this post stupid, but that would be a huge insult to all the stupid posts. If you are saying the number of early commits has little bearing on the teams future success we have a starting point for a discussion. But to claim that the only reason kids get an early commit is because of the parents is "fake news", Kids ability, College coaches interest as well as travel teams marketing of the kid all have major roles in the ER and yes the parents play a large part but to think that a parent can force a college to commit to their kid is just stupid.

I don't think the poster was claiming that colleges are offering kids who can't play just because their parents push it. I think he or she was just saying that the talented players that are committed can be matched by players who are just as talented, but who aren't committed yet, simply because their parents have not yet played the game with all the showcases, travel teams, ect. Whether or not this is true is a different question, but I think you misread their point, or maybe it was just poorly stated.

Also, many kids that are committed are still young (9th grade, for example). They are committed because some D1 coach projects them to be awesome in 4 years. These kids may not, at present, be as good as an 11th or 12th grader who is not yet committed, but may wind up at D2 or D3 or playing some other sport in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

Wow, season hasn't even started, let's wait until everyone has played at least 5 or 6 games before we start trashing each other's programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

Wow, season hasn't even started, let's wait until everyone has played at least 5 or 6 games before we start trashing each other's programs.

most pre-season polls are done before teams play five or six games - it's February and it's 75 degrees out, lets talk some lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

Wow, season hasn't even started, let's wait until everyone has played at least 5 or 6 games before we start trashing each other's programs.

most pre-season polls are done before teams play five or six games - it's February and it's 75 degrees out, lets talk some lax

Isn't this talking about lax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

let me guess....you went to chaminade and live in the CSH district?

Love when people don't like a poll and try to find another less accurate that fits into their agenda! Sorry, not going to make your team better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USLacrosse Magazine Nike pre-season poll - North East

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 Darien (Conn.)
3 Victor (N.Y.)
4 Ward Melville (N.Y.)
5 Chaminade (N.Y.)
6 Jamesville-Dewitt (N.Y.)
7 Syosset (N.Y.)
8 Smithtown East (N.Y.)
9 Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
10 New Canaan (Conn.)

IMHO - Chaminade is better then St A's and CSH is better then WM, SYO and SE

let me guess....you went to chaminade and live in the CSH district?

I was a little too faklempt for Chaminade and way to meshuggah for CSH -

The so-called sports writers based pole on last years results, and factored loss from high profile graduated players...

come on Chamy and SA are over rated as usual and both would have there work cut for them if they played Suffolk A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

come on Chamy and SA are over rated as usual and both would have there work cut for them if they played Suffolk A

Ha....now that's funny. Sooooo many cupcake games in that league.

8

Please Snowflake Kellenberg, Fordham Prep, ST Ignatius Prep are as cupcake as they come. SA did play a tougher Schedule then Chaminade.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-s...no-1-in-nikeusl-hs-boys-preseason-top-25

I think that is a realistic post! Everyone is now on to all you 85% parents and the help of HS and club coaches. The college coaches should just view a player for what he is and stop asking about the player. Too many weak players are getting shoved down college coaches throats.

St Ignatius played a weak schedule Lax mag added them to include California

Well not sure what an 85% parent is but sounds funny. I think college Coaches do view young players for what they are and will over commit early at positions because many players withdraw by the time ready to leave high school. For example Coaches may commit 7 to 8 lefty attacks in there freshman and sophomore years just to have 3 by the time they graduate. One can see how it can create a frenzy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

come on Chamy and SA are over rated as usual and both would have there work cut for them if they played Suffolk A

Ha....now that's funny. Sooooo many cupcake games in that league.

10 teams in Suffulk A that wouldnt post a winning record against any of the LI teams in catholic league. may have a win here or there but no wining records.
Bay Shore
Brentwood
Copiague
Floyd
Lindenhurst
Longwood
Middle Country
North Babylon
Pat Med
Riverhead

then a few more that would struggle to be above .500
Commack
Whitman
Huntingon
HHH West
Smith West
Northport

just like any league, in any state/county 6 teams makes the top tier of that 6 2/3 are the cream of the crop.

Not true, or else Syosett would be ranked higher

Well looking at this list you clearly have little idea what you are talking about . I will say 8 of those 10 above would struggle as they do against the top 10 Suffolk A . Whitman, Smithtown west and Northport are better than both Sachems. Maybe because your from Sachem? WM, SE,SW, CONN, NP, WI, HHE, and maybe SN were your from would at least compete and prob dominate at times. Teams like Trinity, Kellenberg, SJB would as you say struggle to be above 500.

Agreed. But, most colleges will not hold a spot, for that type of player. The coach might ask the kid to walk on, if the player can get gain admissions without athletic support. Sometimes it works out great for both sides...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Change topic, what does having D-1 commits have to do with anything? I know players out there that are not committed that can outplay the committed players, out dodge, out shoot, defensively shut them down. There are several on many of the schools that people on this board like to bash. Let's get a grip, most of the D-1 commits are due to parents and not the players, there are a few exceptions but I would say nearly 85% of the early commits are due to the parents.

Really? I guess your son just hasn't gotten the call yet. Of course 85% of commits on LI are not really that good. Yet your uncommitted son is the "real deal"... Ok, I guess he's just a VICTIM of a system that's stacked against him. Come on man, do you even read what you write before you hit submit? Look at all of the top players from LI over the last few years, 95% were committed to D1 programs. I hope you wrote that post just get people going, there's no way you could be that DUMB.

Word on the street. 91 Organe Kid is going to take Penn state commit spot on Varsity At SA

Kid on express looking to commit to Maryland. He's a defender attending SA

U found the right site, lol. Ok no one cares again

91 ograne kid from Brentwood looking to commit to Syracuse

I don't no how kid made 91 team he is not good and WONT be making Varsity

What has happened to this site? where are the moderators?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What has happened to this site? where are the moderators?

Moderator enjoy watching a pencil penis dad show his frustration and jealousy of a young talented player who out-played his kid.

Breaking news: I know an Express player looking to commit to Suffolk Community College!!

Don't knock juco lacrosse. Both Suffolk and Nassau can run with all the D 2 schools on the island. They scrimmage every year and scores are always close.

LOL...you beat me to it with your response.

It all starts a week from today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Hahahaha, not sure I get the joke, but laughing with you because I don't want you to feel like a loser. Even though you are a loser. On a side note, Feb. rankings don't really have much impact on anything do they?

What are you 12 ?wrw

Suffolk is not even close to the team that Nassau is!

3rd year in a row Manhasset ranked ahead of CSH...when will they learn? Unfortunately, won't be settled on the field this year...

Can't wait for the Lax season to commence, maybe then this board will quiet down. Seems like a lot of people have much frustration and too much time on their hands.

Who is coaching at Walt Whitman? What happened? I thought that they were playing well. Didn't they make the palyoffs last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Hahahaha, not sure I get the joke, but laughing with you because I don't want you to feel like a loser. Even though you are a loser. On a side note, Feb. rankings don't really have much impact on anything do they?

Here is the US Lacrosse/Nike Pre-Season 2017 poll, so what does it really mean its completely different.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-s...no-1-in-nikeusl-hs-boys-preseason-top-25

looks like the biggest difference is the UA poll includes boarding and prep schools (Hill, Deerfield, Avon and IMG) while Nike does not include them - Nike seems to have a more LI tilt with St A's #2 while not even making UA list, also WM and SYO on Nike list but not on UA.

LI is very well represented on both lists and while I do not think St A's is a top 10 team they certainly deserve to be on the list and CSH is way undervalued on both lists, they are the best public school on LI and will show it this year....again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Hahahaha, not sure I get the joke, but laughing with you because I don't want you to feel like a loser. Even though you are a loser. On a side note, Feb. rankings don't really have much impact on anything do they?

Here is the US Lacrosse/Nike Pre-Season 2017 poll, so what does it really mean its completely different.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-s...no-1-in-nikeusl-hs-boys-preseason-top-25

This is much more accurate...

All the teams on the list are VERY good and I think for the most part on any given day...There are also plenty of really good teams from all over NOT on the list. Its paper shooting... Surprised Syosset made it. CSh and NC can settle it on the field and a number of other really good matchups. NJ is always under represented, especially the publics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Rankings of the boys High School Teams

1. Hill Academy (Ont.)
2. Deerfield (Mass.)
3. Darien (Conn.)
4. Culver Academy (Ind.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Landon (Md.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. McDonogh (Md.)
9. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
10. Boys� Latin (Md.)
11. Brunswick (Conn.)
12. Calvert Hall (Md.)
13. Victor (N.Y.)
14. St. Paul�s (Md.)
15. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
16. Manhasset (N.Y.)
17. Haverford School (Pa.)
18. New Canaan (Conn.)
19. IMG National (Fla.)
20. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.)
21. Gonzaga (D.C.)
22. LaSalle College (Pa.)
23. Bullis (Md.)
24. Delbarton (N.J.)
25. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.)

No GC??? ha ha ha ha ha

Hahahaha, not sure I get the joke, but laughing with you because I don't want you to feel like a loser. Even though you are a loser. On a side note, Feb. rankings don't really have much impact on anything do they?

Here is the US Lacrosse/Nike Pre-Season 2017 poll, so what does it really mean its completely different.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-s...no-1-in-nikeusl-hs-boys-preseason-top-25

Wow!
Chaminade and St. Anthony's each play 6 teams on those lists.

Only other team in the country with as tough a schedule might be McDonogh who plays 7 top ranked teams.

Actually the top team may be Darien because it ranks so high on BOTH lists.

No other LI team has a schedule like Cham & St. Ants.

Can someone from Chaminade name only the schools of the potential starters,will be attending.

No one has any idea if any of these teams are any good. These rankings are based on last year. Nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the teams on the list are VERY good and I think for the most part on any given day...There are also plenty of really good teams from all over NOT on the list. Its paper shooting... Surprised Syosset made it. CSh and NC can settle it on the field and a number of other really good matchups. NJ is always under represented, especially the publics.

Syo has 10 D1 commits on the team this year and has won Nassau Class A last 2 years and LIC in 2015. Why wouldn't they be on the list.

Pequa has eleven D1 commits, still need to play together has a team.

Because the kid that carried the team is at Penn State

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has eleven D1 commits, still need to play together has a team.

Don't forget to subtract out the phantom D1 commits of the kids that bail and end up going to Nassau CC / Adelphi. The real number is closer to 6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because the kid that carried the team is at Penn State

Oh, you mean the kid that is leading the country in goals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone from Chaminade name only the schools of the potential starters,will be attending.

ATT : UVA, Air Force, ND
Mid: Navy, Duke, Weslyan
DMid: Tufts
Fogo: Colgate
Def: Cornell, Harvard, Darmouth
LSM: Manhattan/Lafayette
Goalie: Duke

I actually think rankings do make a difference. Each year there is typically 2-3 undefeated teams. Of those 2-3 teams that keep a clean sheet, the one that is the highest ranked team early will continue to keep its place as the the top team. I am sure those kids up in Victor NY and Darian CT thought they were the best team in the land last year as they both were undefeated and played some great lax but they did not stand a chance at the #1 because both started the season lower.

Wow, I love to meet u and discuss.

Ugh, I lik tuh meet yu to . Ugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, I love to meet u and discuss.

Ummmm........I think you may want to sign on to Match.com for that. That's a little creepy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ugh, I lik tuh meet yu to . Ugh

That's the Maryland education system for ya. A 20 year old HS sophomore, but parents Biff and Buffy are convinced he is going D1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone from Chaminade name only the schools of the potential starters,will be attending.

ATT : UVA, Air Force, ND
Mid: Navy, Duke, Weslyan
DMid: Tufts
Fogo: Colgate
Def: Cornell, Harvard, Darmouth
LSM: Manhattan/Lafayette
Goalie: Duke

It could be some variation of this:

Attack: Virginia, Navy, Notre Dame
Midfield First line: Duke, Johns Hopkins, North Carolina
Defense: Harvard, Cornell, Duke
Fogo: Princeton/Colgate
Goalie: Duke

Midfield second line: Wesleyan, Middlebury, St. Joseph's
LSM: Dartmouth/Manhattan
D Mid: Tufts/ Lehigh

They are solid either way.
Juniors are strong class and will likely have a big role among the starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone from Chaminade name only the schools of the potential starters,will be attending.

ATT : UVA, Air Force, ND
Mid: Navy, Duke, Weslyan
DMid: Tufts
Fogo: Colgate
Def: Cornell, Harvard, Darmouth
LSM: Manhattan/Lafayette
Goalie: Duke

It could be some variation of this:

Attack: Virginia, Navy, Notre Dame
Midfield First line: Duke, Johns Hopkins, North Carolina
Defense: Harvard, Cornell, Duke
Fogo: Princeton/Colgate
Goalie: Duke

Midfield second line: Wesleyan, Middlebury, St. Joseph's
LSM: Dartmouth/Manhattan
D Mid: Tufts/ Lehigh

They are solid either way.
Juniors are strong class and will likely have a big role among the starters.

I would be surprised if more than 2/3 juniors would start even though they are talented and no way a sophomore is moved up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

Why is that? Freeport doesn't have a lacrosse team? Syosset is not "close twice the size of every school in Nassau" as you indicated. Fact is Syosset was undefeated in conference last year. Deal with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone from Chaminade name only the schools of the potential starters,will be attending.

ATT : UVA, Air Force, ND
Mid: Navy, Duke, Weslyan
DMid: Tufts
Fogo: Colgate
Def: Cornell, Harvard, Darmouth
LSM: Manhattan/Lafayette
Goalie: Duke

It could be some variation of this:

Attack: Virginia, Navy, Notre Dame
Midfield First line: Duke, Johns Hopkins, North Carolina
Defense: Harvard, Cornell, Duke
Fogo: Princeton/Colgate
Goalie: Duke

Midfield second line: Wesleyan, Middlebury, St. Joseph's
LSM: Dartmouth/Manhattan
D Mid: Tufts/ Lehigh

They are solid either way.
Juniors are strong class and will likely have a big role among the starters.

Bet the 1st post is a senior parent and the second post is a junior parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

Why is that? Freeport doesn't have a lacrosse team? Syosset is not "close twice the size of every school in Nassau" as you indicated. Fact is Syosset was undefeated in conference last year. Deal with it.

Syosset has way more boys to choose from, don't like it? Too bad, they should be beating everyone, and Freeport sucks at lacrosse in case you didn't know that. Syosset went undefeated in the conference when the only real competition they have is Massapequa and Farmingdale. Deal with it, and buy your boys some pants while you are at it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

I think the point was that Syosset is NOT twice the size of EVERY school in Nassau - that the four other schools listed are all comparable in size. Lacrosse was secondary to that point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

I agree with the original post, since Syosset is close to "double" the population of every other high School they should win every game in every sport every year.

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

The committee has had an emergency meeting to discuss this issue and has ruled you have no authority to decide what schools can and can not be discussed on this site. as per usual the vote was unanimous (1-0).

here is a list for you

Freepoer
Freeport
Freemasons
Freebutnotcheap
Freebird
Freeclear
Worldbefree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the teams on the list are VERY good and I think for the most part on any given day...There are also plenty of really good teams from all over NOT on the list. Its paper shooting... Surprised Syosset made it. CSh and NC can settle it on the field and a number of other really good matchups. NJ is always under represented, especially the publics.

Syo has 10 D1 commits on the team this year and has won Nassau Class A last 2 years and LIC in 2015. Why wouldn't they be on the list.

Because they have to make up 90 plus goals this year from 2016, it's not like they lost a couple of 20g/20a guys. Too much stuff to list that they will not be able to replace for years to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

The mere fact that you put Freepoer (sic) in a lacrosse thread shows me you have NO clue about the sport. Guess brains is not your strong point.

I agree with the original post, since Syosset is close to "double" the population of every other high School they should win every game in every sport every year.

...and they did, so what's the issue?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Oh, why is that? Freeport not deserving enough to be mentioned? I hope they beat your elitist school pal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the teams on the list are VERY good and I think for the most part on any given day...There are also plenty of really good teams from all over NOT on the list. Its paper shooting... Surprised Syosset made it. CSh and NC can settle it on the field and a number of other really good matchups. NJ is always under represented, especially the publics.

Syo has 10 D1 commits on the team this year and has won Nassau Class A last 2 years and LIC in 2015. Why wouldn't they be on the list.

Because they have to make up 90 plus goals this year from 2016, it's not like they lost a couple of 20g/20a guys. Too much stuff to list that they will not be able to replace for years to come.

They don't have to make up anything, they have to beat Massapequa by 1 in the county Championship game and it doesn't matter if the score is 1-0 ....just win baby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the teams on the list are VERY good and I think for the most part on any given day...There are also plenty of really good teams from all over NOT on the list. Its paper shooting... Surprised Syosset made it. CSh and NC can settle it on the field and a number of other really good matchups. NJ is always under represented, especially the publics.

Syo has 10 D1 commits on the team this year and has won Nassau Class A last 2 years and LIC in 2015. Why wouldn't they be on the list.

Because they have to make up 90 plus goals this year from 2016, it's not like they lost a couple of 20g/20a guys. Too much stuff to list that they will not be able to replace for years to come.

other teams also graduate good players

SYO top two players
61g 30a 91pts
24g 24a 48pts
total 85g 54a 139pts

Mass top two players
49g 26a 75pts
41g 22a 63pts
total 90g 48a 138pts

and Farmingdale lost one player 51g 50a 101pts

so in closing it is determined your argument does not hold water and you should go to the box and feel great shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Oh, why is that? Freeport not deserving enough to be mentioned? I hope they beat your elitist school pal.

Oh stop it Bill Deblasio.

Syo other guy 31/23 and another All American. Besides stats there are so many other factors that will make 2017 seem like 2009 after 2 LIC wins in '07,'08. It will no longer be a tough brand of lacrosse but rather the soft,sissy type brand that Syosset is known for and it will match the powder blue uniforms you guys will start wearing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Oh, why is that? Freeport not deserving enough to be mentioned? I hope they beat your elitist school pal.

Oh stop it Bill Deblasio.

Your response just further proves the point...

It must really bug you that the Syosset community is made up of a relatively diverse group including Jews, Italians, Greeks, Irish, Asian, etc., and has a competitive sports program including football, lacrosse, basketball, tennis, golf, track, etc. All are welcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Oh, why is that? Freeport not deserving enough to be mentioned? I hope they beat your elitist school pal.

Oh stop it Bill Deblasio.

Having empathy does not make one a "Deblasio" it makes one a human. While no rational lacrosse fan would put Freeport in same conversation with Syosset about lacrosse standings the mention of Freeport was a "Real" fact about total enrollment to rebut a"Fake" fact (Syosset has twice the enrollment of every school in conference A).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo other guy 31/23 and another All American. Besides stats there are so many other factors that will make 2017 seem like 2009 after 2 LIC wins in '07,'08. It will no longer be a tough brand of lacrosse but rather the soft,sissy type brand that Syosset is known for and it will match the powder blue uniforms you guys will start wearing.

If you are going to be obsessed with Syosset at least know your facts, Syosset did not win the LIC in '07, they lost to WI -

And while not winning the County Championship will be a disappointment to the kids on Syosset, emulating the 2009 team is nothing to be ashamed of.

Players from the 2009 "sissy" team

Duke National Champion (2x)
Cornell HM All American
Yale Academic All American
4 year starter for UVA
The Ohio State
Cornell
Johns Hopkins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a lacrosse site, can't list Freepoer.

Oh, why is that? Freeport not deserving enough to be mentioned? I hope they beat your elitist school pal.

Oh stop it Bill Deblasio.

Having empathy does not make one a "Deblasio" it makes one a human. While no rational lacrosse fan would put Freeport in same conversation with Syosset about lacrosse standings the mention of Freeport was a "Real" fact about total enrollment to rebut a"Fake" fact (Syosset has twice the enrollment of every school in conference A).

Thanks Syosset folks, I realize you welcome all, does that include people without pants? HAHAHAHAHAHA, so easy.

You mean Bill Wilhelm

SYosset is made up of parents that raise rude kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYosset is made up of parents that raise rude kids.

You are a real tool to sling mud at 15,16 and 17 year old kids.... You are a real man! What kind of adults are in your town? I hope they are not scum like you. Go crawl back under your rock.

To my point Syosset all about labels... 10 D1 guys this year all those Ivy and well established college players from 2009 team who went 7-10. What's next to validate yourself can you start naming handbags and shoes moms wear like Gucci, Prada etc. or cars dad's drive like BMW, Maserati , Ferrarri. Typical Syosset [lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYosset is made up of parents that raise rude kids.

Who leave practice in their tighty whiteys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYosset is made up of parents that raise rude kids.

Who leave practice in their tighty whiteys

I guess they have nothing to be embarrassed about. Not sure ur sons would have enough self confidence to do the same.

Oh and I'm pretty sure none of the boys in Syosset wear tighty whiteys.... We don't shop at Walmart like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To my point Syosset all about labels... 10 D1 guys this year all those Ivy and well established college players from 2009 team who went 7-10. What's next to validate yourself can you start naming handbags and shoes moms wear like Gucci, Prada etc. or cars dad's drive like BMW, Maserati , Ferrarri. Typical Syosset [lacrosse]

Wow - you win this round, totally humiliated an entire town for being affluent, well educated and pretty good in lacrosse most years, we are all going to the box and feeling shame.

Only one Turtle on the US Preseason All American Team one (CSH). A couple others scattered on the other 2 teams, but not to many from LI in general.

Where is Arnold Diaz "Shame,Shame,Shame"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYosset is made up of parents that raise rude kids.

Who leave practice in their tighty whiteys

I guess they have nothing to be embarrassed about. Not sure ur sons would have enough self confidence to do the same.

Oh and I'm pretty sure none of the boys in Syosset wear tighty whiteys.... We don't shop at Walmart like you.

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

I will try and type slower so you can understand

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Where did you get this information?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

please let us know where you got your "alternate" numbers - I think the original post used 2 year old but accurate numbers from high-school.com

Newsday and US News both have Freeport and Syosset over 2100 students and Farmingdale at 1940 - Massapequa at 1870

In reality it does not matter, you only play 10 kids at a time. That is why CSH (who only has about 660 kids 9-12th) is the best team on long Island - there top 10 are better then everybody else top 10. nobody cares about #'s 11 - 2100

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Sorry but I have checked multiple sources and Syosset has above 2000 students.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

I will try and type slower so you can understand

Sure type slower, you wrote a nonsensical post, someone asked you to clarify and you got defensive, classic sign of a jerk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only one Turtle on the US Preseason All American Team one (CSH). A couple others scattered on the other 2 teams, but not to many from LI in general.

Yeah, LI players just win Tewaaraton awards....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

I will try and type slower so you can understand

Sure type slower, you wrote a nonsensical post, someone asked you to clarify and you got defensive, classic sign of a jerk.

I must be a jerk as well, thought the post was pretty straight forward

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Where are you getting your information
Farmingdale has 1900

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

I will try and type slower so you can understand

Sure type slower, you wrote a nonsensical post, someone asked you to clarify and you got defensive, classic sign of a jerk.

I must be a jerk as well, thought the post was pretty straight forward

Okay, if you say so, you're a jerk too.

two turtles bud...Avanzano and Licciardi

[quote=Anonymous]two turtles bud...Avanzano and Licciardi[/quote

3 Tancredi

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]two turtles bud...Avanzano and Licciardi[/quote

3 Tancredi

Actually 5 but I'll leave that for you guys to figure out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

two turtles bud...Avanzano and Licciardi

........................and a partridge in a pear tree

1st team is the only one that counts! Bud

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

We obviously are looking at different sources for the enrollment numbers. Let's go with your numbers then..OK?

Thanks for helping to prove the point that Syo is not twice the size of every other school.

You must be a Syosset Athletic Supporter.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

We obviously are looking at different sources for the enrollment numbers. Let's go with your numbers then..OK?

Thanks for helping to prove the point that Syo is not twice the size of every other school.

You must be a Syosset Athletic Supporter.

Thank you!

"Athletic Supporter" now that's funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

We obviously are looking at different sources for the enrollment numbers. Let's go with your numbers then..OK?

Thanks for helping to prove the point that Syo is not twice the size of every other school.

You must be a Syosset Athletic Supporter.

Thank you!

"Athletic Supporter" now that's funny.

I heard that's all they wear there.

Heard Syosset wearing powder blue and replacing Braves with a Penguin. Should Be Fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Syosset wearing powder blue and replacing Braves with a Penguin. Should Be Fun

Paying tribute to a house an eskimo would live in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Syosset wearing powder blue and replacing Braves with a Penguin. Should Be Fun

We'll leave tickets for you at the will call window at Hofstra , your season will be over by then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Syosset wearing powder blue and replacing Braves with a Penguin. Should Be Fun

I for one look forward to the Eskimo kids being part of the Braves lacrosse program for years to come, those kids can flat out play and will be a welcome addition to the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, probably wear silk thongs, HAHAHAHAHA, SO DAMN EASY. Isn't this the same tool bag who was bemoaning the Freepoer comment? Now it's okay to be an elitist snob? You Syo clowns just cant figure out what's what, hence allowing your sons to leave practice in their panties.

Yes it is so damn easy to not be funny, unless we are to surmise that you are funny because you laugh at your own joke IN ALL CAPS. It is also so damn easy to go through life without the understanding of the art of the anonymous quote.

You do realize that more then one person could be posting in defense of Syosset? do you also realize that the same person could be posting both pro Syosset post and then bashing Syosset in reply? Mr. Anonymous likes to post anything to continue the conversation?

They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

Hey buddy, can you translate this nonsense into English please. I cant make heads or tails of what you posted.

I will try and type slower so you can understand

Sure type slower, you wrote a nonsensical post, someone asked you to clarify and you got defensive, classic sign of a jerk.

I must be a jerk as well, thought the post was pretty straight forward

If you think your post made sense, we all want some of the drugs you are on . . .

"They've come tonight...to challenge the Braves, the toughest team in Nassau A. Not this...bunch of...

What does that mean? Who has come? Who is the toughest team in Nassau A? I like the dramatic flair, too bad the dads are a bunch of chicken sh*ts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

We obviously are looking at different sources for the enrollment numbers. Let's go with your numbers then..OK?

Thanks for helping to prove the point that Syo is not twice the size of every other school.

You must be a Syosset Athletic Supporter.

Thank you!

So, here are the real numbers for 2015/16 school year as provided by the NYSPHSAA (New [lacrosse] State Public High School Athletic Association).
http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/P...t%20Number%20-%20Final%20-%20Revised.pdf
Assuming the moderator doesn't wack the URL.

8 HEMPSTEAD HIGH SCHOOL 1834
8 MASSAPEQUA HIGH SCHOOL 1771
8 FREEPORT HIGH SCHOOL 1767
8 UNIONDALE HIGH SCHOOL 1649
8 SYOSSET SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1607
8 FARMINGDALE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1448
8 SCHOOL 7-OCEANSIDE SENIOR HS 1335
8 HICKSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL 1283
8 EAST MEADOW HIGH SCHOOL 1222
8 BALDWIN SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1188
8 PAUL D SCHREIBER SENIO HIGH SCHOOL 1182
8 PLAINVIEW-OLD BETHPAGE/JFK HS 1165
8 HERRICKS HIGH SCHOOL 1023
8 VALLEY STREAM CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL 1023
8 WESTBURY HIGH SCHOOL 1007

listed only school with over 1000 enrolled students.

I really don't believe I am responding to this stupidity..... A simple review of the school website will show Syosset has a total student enrollment of 6,636. HS enrollment last year was 2,159. Why is a trivial fact such a big deal? It is a fact...who gives a crap!! What does it mean? Nothing!!! It appears that people will bash anything connected to a school like Syosset, GC, CSH or Manahsset. In fact, a reoccurring event I see on this site is the pleasure people take in bashing these schools, the "teenage" students and the parents. Why? By calling the poster an elitist, exposes the truth that lies beneath. This is no different then cry-baby liberals bashing business owners or wall street types. They don't know them, but they are rich and successful and I am not.....so lets bash them every chance we get. Jealousy is an ugly trait!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

So, what this poster really is trying to state is that the largest school, since they have a larger pool to student athletes should win local, regional and states every year. if that is the case, then Section 11 should be the number 1 athletic school in NYS, they had a student population of 4406 for 2015/16 school year, that is more than double of Section 8's number one Hemstead, which had 1834. Heck that would place the number 1 largest school from section 8 only number 6 in Section 11.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really don't believe I am responding to this stupidity..... A simple review of the school website will show Syosset has a total student enrollment of 6,636. HS enrollment last year was 2,159. Why is a trivial fact such a big deal? It is a fact...who gives a crap!! What does it mean? Nothing!!! It appears that people will bash anything connected to a school like Syosset, GC, CSH or Manahsset. In fact, a reoccurring event I see on this site is the pleasure people take in bashing these schools, the "teenage" students and the parents. Why? By calling the poster an elitist, exposes the truth that lies beneath. This is no different then cry-baby liberals bashing business owners or wall street types. They don't know them, but they are rich and successful and I am not.....so lets bash them every chance we get. Jealousy is an ugly trait!

I can't either when the NYSPHSAA states the correct numbers, the school website has had that number posted for years. I will go with the NYSPHSAA since that is an official document which the schools have to report every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Where are you getting your information
Farmingdale has 1900

Getting my numbers here....http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/PDF/Classification/2017-2018%20SCHOOL%20ENROLLMENT%20NUMBERS%20-%20FINAL.pdf

wow. what a bunch of numeric nonsense.

NYSPHSAA is a non profit association not an official NY State department....so basically garbage in garbage out. NYSed.gov official NY State Education site states Syosset at 2097, Farmingdale at 1905, Freeport 2267,Uniondale 2255, Massapequa 1807 Hempstead 2415. So the original post and the person who thought they corrected the original post are both wrong.
So at the end of the day....what does the mean to everyone and how does it change your life?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest school in Section 8 should win the class every year. Syosset is close to twice the size of every school in Nassau.

I guess math is not your strong suit.

Syo = 2,225
Freepoer = 2,114
Farmingdale = 1,993
Pequa = 1,941
Oceanside = 1,872

Correct information isn't your strong suit either. Correct #'s:
Freeport = 1782
Uniondale = 1775
Hempstead = 1754
Massapequa = 1667
Syosset = 1546
Farmingdale = 1425
Oceanside = 1303

We obviously are looking at different sources for the enrollment numbers. Let's go with your numbers then..OK?

Thanks for helping to prove the point that Syo is not twice the size of every other school.

You must be a Syosset Athletic Supporter.

Thank you!

So, here are the real numbers for 2015/16 school year as provided by the NYSPHSAA (New [lacrosse] State Public High School Athletic Association).
http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/P...t%20Number%20-%20Final%20-%20Revised.pdf
Assuming the moderator doesn't wack the URL.

8 HEMPSTEAD HIGH SCHOOL 1834
8 MASSAPEQUA HIGH SCHOOL 1771
8 FREEPORT HIGH SCHOOL 1767
8 UNIONDALE HIGH SCHOOL 1649
8 SYOSSET SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1607
8 FARMINGDALE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1448
8 SCHOOL 7-OCEANSIDE SENIOR HS 1335
8 HICKSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL 1283
8 EAST MEADOW HIGH SCHOOL 1222
8 BALDWIN SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 1188
8 PAUL D SCHREIBER SENIO HIGH SCHOOL 1182
8 PLAINVIEW-OLD BETHPAGE/JFK HS 1165
8 HERRICKS HIGH SCHOOL 1023
8 VALLEY STREAM CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL 1023
8 WESTBURY HIGH SCHOOL 1007

listed only school with over 1000 enrolled students.

I have sent an e-mail to NYSPHAA to clarify but it seems that they only use 3 years for the totals, probably the prior years 9th 10th and 11th as they will be in the school the following year while the 12th graders will be gone.

I would think that they have to use the previous years since the current year would not be available in time to make schedules ect. for the fall teams when final enrollment has not been determined. It would also make no sense to count last years seniors and you can't use 8th graders because you do not know how many are going to go to private school.

Massapqua - Syosset and Farmingdale consistently each have graduating classes of over 500 kids and that would put total enrollment at or over 2,000

means I a going to tell your boss that you are wasting company time, and all of ours with your dopey facts....now go back the clean-up in isle 7!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

means I a going to tell your boss that you are wasting company time, and all of ours with your dopey facts....now go back the clean-up in isle 7!

Dude, can you even write a coherent sentence? I don't think you would even qualify for the job to clean aisle 7. By the way, an isle is what Gilligan was stuck on, an aisle is what you don't qualify to clean. What does "I a going to tell" mean? I guess you missed the reading is fundamental part of school! Stop making BOTC your main source of literature and pick up a book.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NYSPHSAA is a non profit association not an official NY State department....so basically garbage in garbage out. NYSed.gov official NY State Education site states Syosset at 2097, Farmingdale at 1905, Freeport 2267,Uniondale 2255, Massapequa 1807 Hempstead 2415. So the original post and the person who thought they corrected the original post are both wrong.
So at the end of the day....what does the mean to everyone and how does it change your life?

I believe that in the grand scheme of things the more students the larger the pool of athletes. I think for certain towns this can be true but for others who happen to have a large immigrant population it creates a false pool of actual athletes. Some towns have become major draws for academics others for both academics and services. Towns like GC, Manhasset even though they are smaller tend to have a very well rounded student body. Very cookie cutter very white and parents that really care about athletics and academics so do their children. Massapequa, Farmingdale, and Oceanside have always been known as hard nose blue collar families have a more diverse but not very diverse population.Parents care about athletics and school. Syosset is in a league of its own. has a pretty diverse student body where there are families that dont care about sports but are 110% committed to academics (Indian, Pakistani, Asian) Then there are those families that are a mix of academics and athletics. They are the ones that make up the majority of their athletes. They pay big bucks to get their kids training and classroom tutoring. Due to Syossets size they have a larger pool of these types of athletes. Port Washington is academically strong but also filled with ESL students and families seeking services for their children with special needs. Due to the large number of Spanish speaking students they have a much smaller pool of student athletes. being one of the smallest schools in the big school division they tend to have the biggest srtuggle fielding teams. Look at their football program and where they are now. Thats my take on this conversation.

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really don't believe I am responding to this stupidity..... A simple review of the school website will show Syosset has a total student enrollment of 6,636. HS enrollment last year was 2,159. Why is a trivial fact such a big deal? It is a fact...who gives a crap!! What does it mean? Nothing!!! It appears that people will bash anything connected to a school like Syosset, GC, CSH or Manahsset. In fact, a reoccurring event I see on this site is the pleasure people take in bashing these schools, the "teenage" students and the parents. Why? By calling the poster an elitist, exposes the truth that lies beneath. This is no different then cry-baby liberals bashing business owners or wall street types. They don't know them, but they are rich and successful and I am not.....so lets bash them every chance we get. Jealousy is an ugly trait!

Pretty egregious Syosset trolling.

(One of those towns just doesn't belong...)

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NYSPHSAA is a non profit association not an official NY State department....so basically garbage in garbage out. NYSed.gov official NY State Education site states Syosset at 2097, Farmingdale at 1905, Freeport 2267,Uniondale 2255, Massapequa 1807 Hempstead 2415. So the original post and the person who thought they corrected the original post are both wrong.
So at the end of the day....what does the mean to everyone and how does it change your life?

I believe that in the grand scheme of things the more students the larger the pool of athletes. I think for certain towns this can be true but for others who happen to have a large immigrant population it creates a false pool of actual athletes. Some towns have become major draws for academics others for both academics and services. Towns like GC, Manhasset even though they are smaller tend to have a very well rounded student body. Very cookie cutter very white and parents that really care about athletics and academics so do their children. Massapequa, Farmingdale, and Oceanside have always been known as hard nose blue collar families have a more diverse but not very diverse population.Parents care about athletics and school. Syosset is in a league of its own. has a pretty diverse student body where there are families that dont care about sports but are 110% committed to academics (Indian, Pakistani, Asian) Then there are those families that are a mix of academics and athletics. They are the ones that make up the majority of their athletes. They pay big bucks to get their kids training and classroom tutoring. Due to Syossets size they have a larger pool of these types of athletes. Port Washington is academically strong but also filled with ESL students and families seeking services for their children with special needs. Due to the large number of Spanish speaking students they have a much smaller pool of student athletes. being one of the smallest schools in the big school division they tend to have the biggest srtuggle fielding teams. Look at their football program and where they are now. Thats my take on this conversation.

Very accurate breakdown on the above school districts. I predict a major shift to private schools in the not too distant future here on LI. Mine both went public, both are headed to Private Colleges. Given the opportunity to do it all over again, I would go private from day one. Have friends whose kids attended private in Philly, game changing schools. They take decent students and make them great ones. LI publics use to be the best of the best. Not the case anymore. The Unions, ESL, state mandates and mismanagement are slowly, but surely killing them. $23,000 in taxes for buildings in need of raising, no turf, an ever expanding ESL population, and limited number of Honors classes. All money spent on AP and ESL. All this in an extremely highly rated school district. Its a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

season predictions
Nassau A Syosset v Massapequa
Nassau B GC V SS
Nassau C Lynbrook V CSH
Nassau D Oyster Bay

Suffolk A SE V WM
Suffolk B HHHW V Comsewogue
Suffolk C Sayville V SWR
Suffolk D Babylon V Port Jefferson

LIC A WM def. Syosset
LIC B Comsewogue De. GC
LIC C CSH def. SWR
LIC D Babylon def Oyster Bay

Only when your kid doesn't get named on any team. I know I would be thrilled for my son should he be named 1st, 2nd or 3rd team All-American. Honor and privilege. Congrats to all kids from LI named to pre-season All-American!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

That college freshman was no fancy prancy sissy growing up in Syosset. How many kids were HS, Pee Wee football players from the last 2 seasons. Most of the 2015 football team played lacrosse and you think the success of both teams was coincidental. Even the college freshman you speak of, what other sports did he play growing up giving him the toughness he had, pretty sure there was some physicality in those sports as well as the box lacrosse he plays. The Syosset lacrosse player in 5 years will be just that, a lacrosse player not an athlete. That was my point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

That college freshman was no fancy prancy sissy growing up in Syosset. How many kids were HS, Pee Wee football players from the last 2 seasons. Most of the 2015 football team played lacrosse and you think the success of both teams was coincidental. Even the college freshman you speak of, what other sports did he play growing up giving him the toughness he had, pretty sure there was some physicality in those sports as well as the box lacrosse he plays. The Syosset lacrosse player in 5 years will be just that, a lacrosse player not an athlete. That was my point.

So, in 5 years a Lacrosse Player from Syosset will not be an athlete? That's funny logic.

Athlete | Definition of Athlete by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/athlete
Definition of athlete. : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina.

Last time I checked, lacrosse met the above definition. I"m not sure what will change in 5 years time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

That college freshman was no fancy prancy sissy growing up in Syosset. How many kids were HS, Pee Wee football players from the last 2 seasons. Most of the 2015 football team played lacrosse and you think the success of both teams was coincidental. Even the college freshman you speak of, what other sports did he play growing up giving him the toughness he had, pretty sure there was some physicality in those sports as well as the box lacrosse he plays. The Syosset lacrosse player in 5 years will be just that, a lacrosse player not an athlete. That was my point.

So, in 5 years a Lacrosse Player from Syosset will not be an athlete? That's funny logic.

Athlete | Definition of Athlete by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/athlete
Definition of athlete. : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina.

Last time I checked, lacrosse met the above definition. I"m not sure what will change in 5 years time.

Parents like yourself are the root cause of the change and what will be missed is the kid of a parent who doesn't need a dictionary to determine what an athlete is. There are no words that can describe what will make a kid get up when he gets knocked down or runs through a check and digs deep when he's exhausted. Those words you want to throw around mean zip if a kid ain't got IT ! And the IT is the athlete Syosset like towns will no longer have in 5 years from today. Sure you can be slick against some of the lesser towns but the real athletes will be long gone. Multiple sport athletes are a thing of the past and long live the lacrosse helicopter parent, can't wait to see you crash and burn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

That college freshman was no fancy prancy sissy growing up in Syosset. How many kids were HS, Pee Wee football players from the last 2 seasons. Most of the 2015 football team played lacrosse and you think the success of both teams was coincidental. Even the college freshman you speak of, what other sports did he play growing up giving him the toughness he had, pretty sure there was some physicality in those sports as well as the box lacrosse he plays. The Syosset lacrosse player in 5 years will be just that, a lacrosse player not an athlete. That was my point.

So, in 5 years a Lacrosse Player from Syosset will not be an athlete? That's funny logic.

Athlete | Definition of Athlete by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/athlete
Definition of athlete. : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina.

Last time I checked, lacrosse met the above definition. I"m not sure what will change in 5 years time.

Parents like yourself are the root cause of the change and what will be missed is the kid of a parent who doesn't need a dictionary to determine what an athlete is. There are no words that can describe what will make a kid get up when he gets knocked down or runs through a check and digs deep when he's exhausted. Those words you want to throw around mean zip if a kid ain't got IT ! And the IT is the athlete Syosset like towns will no longer have in 5 years from today. Sure you can be slick against some of the lesser towns but the real athletes will be long gone. Multiple sport athletes are a thing of the past and long live the lacrosse helicopter parent, can't wait to see you crash and burn.

The definition was for your benefit pal - not mine. You have no idea what you are talking about. Go have a drink and relive your glory days - if you ever had any. Don't worry about Syosset athletes - worry about your own town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

season predictions
Nassau A Syosset v Massapequa
Nassau B GC V SS
Nassau C Lynbrook V CSH
Nassau D Oyster Bay

Suffolk A SE V WM
Suffolk B HHHW V Comsewogue
Suffolk C Sayville V SWR
Suffolk D Babylon V Port Jefferson

LIC A WM def. Syosset
LIC B Comsewogue De. GC
LIC C CSH def. SWR
LIC D Babylon def Oyster Bay

Suffolk B might be a little different. Some very tough, under rated teams in that Division. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

Why would any parent watch a tryout? Tryouts and practices should be closed

just a complet tool. watching a tryout to find fault with a kid? anyone from thid team (paernt) needs to pass along this jerkoffs comments and plan. along with the parent name.

you going to boo him? tell him to pass the ball to your kid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

― Mark Twain

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Just an extremely jealous and envious D bag trying to stir the pot, My son is a senior at SA and I've seen the 91 Freshman Penn State commit play many times, not even remotely a question, he will most certainly make Varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Just an extremely jealous and envious D bag trying to stir the pot, My son is a senior at SA and I've seen the 91 Freshman Penn State commit play many times, not even remotely a question, he will most certainly make Varsity.

.

Not only will he make Varsity, he will most likely be the leading scorer on the team. Kid is a beast!

Ok mom and dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with you. The demographics are changing all over the island....they always have and always will. Look at the student body in your elementary schools if you don't believe me. If you look at the elementary schools in a district like Syosset and even Manhasset, you will see a lot more Asians and Indians. They are flocking to these districts because of the academics. But lets be honest, these kids don't go out for big team sports outside of maybe soccer and to some extent basketball. It is probably safe to say a district like Syosset will have a hard time fielding a "competitive" lacrosse team in 10 to 15 years. (And lets not even talk about football) Syosset will look more like a Jericho or Great Neck by then. The difference with GC is there are generations of families in that town. I bet more than half of the GC parents you meet on the sidelines also grew up in GC. (There is something to be said about that) I remember playing HS lacrosse in the 80's. Some of the tough teams then are not even mentioned today. Sewanhaka and or Carey, MacArthur, Island Trees....where are they now? GC was and will always be tough because their demo has not changed in 100 years.

Syosset will be a memory when it comes to contact sports (i.e.. football, lacrosse, wrestling ) within the next 5 years. The diversified athlete that so many college coaches seek will be less and less from Syosset like towns and the so-called lax rat only player will give way to the more athletic kid from the southern and western hotbeds in the states. College coaches want athletes and toughness not a fancy prancy sissy and Syosset like towns and their lacrosse programs will start to erode once big name coaches stop looking to them for recruits.

So, I guess then that all the athletic middle school kids from Syosset needs to move out to somewhere in Suffolk County or Texas...

While I think there is some merit in the above post, I think that Nassau (and Suffolk) will continue to be a hot bed for lacrosse for quite a long time, certainly longer than 5 years. Let's not forget that the Number #1 college freshman in country for lacrosse is a Syosset kid.

That college freshman was no fancy prancy sissy growing up in Syosset. How many kids were HS, Pee Wee football players from the last 2 seasons. Most of the 2015 football team played lacrosse and you think the success of both teams was coincidental. Even the college freshman you speak of, what other sports did he play growing up giving him the toughness he had, pretty sure there was some physicality in those sports as well as the box lacrosse he plays. The Syosset lacrosse player in 5 years will be just that, a lacrosse player not an athlete. That was my point.

So, in 5 years a Lacrosse Player from Syosset will not be an athlete? That's funny logic.

Athlete | Definition of Athlete by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/athlete
Definition of athlete. : a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina.

Last time I checked, lacrosse met the above definition. I"m not sure what will change in 5 years time.

Parents like yourself are the root cause of the change and what will be missed is the kid of a parent who doesn't need a dictionary to determine what an athlete is. There are no words that can describe what will make a kid get up when he gets knocked down or runs through a check and digs deep when he's exhausted. Those words you want to throw around mean zip if a kid ain't got IT ! And the IT is the athlete Syosset like towns will no longer have in 5 years from today. Sure you can be slick against some of the lesser towns but the real athletes will be long gone. Multiple sport athletes are a thing of the past and long live the lacrosse helicopter parent, can't wait to see you crash and burn.

SMH

How was 91 orange star atacker kid at SA truouts ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was 91 orange star atacker kid at SA truouts ?

What's the matter troublemaker? I thought you were going to be there being a stalking loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Just an extremely jealous and envious D bag trying to stir the pot, My son is a senior at SA and I've seen the 91 Freshman Penn State commit play many times, not even remotely a question, he will most certainly make Varsity.

.

Not only will he make Varsity, he will most likely be the leading scorer on the team. Kid is a beast!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I will be at SA watching the boys tryout as to see the Penn State commit and 91 star kid. Can't waite to see what 91 star has to brig out, i sure can say from the loks of it he won't be making Varsity

ar eyou talking baout 1 or 2 kids? if 1, then you better get your eyes checked, cause you cant see so good!

Just an extremely jealous and envious D bag trying to stir the pot, My son is a senior at SA and I've seen the 91 Freshman Penn State commit play many times, not even remotely a question, he will most certainly make Varsity.

.

Not only will he make Varsity, he will most likely be the leading scorer on the team. Kid is a beast!

Now that he has a plethora of weapons, not just 1 legit weapon, he (may not lead the team in scoring) but should again have an impressive balanced point total.) He is a heady player who is a student of the game and isn't a ball hog. I think this could be a great all around year for him. Even if he doesn't lead in the stat columns. To that point (leading scorer) it's meaningless.

He is a LOCK to make the team. The question is how many other Freshman make and contribute on Varsity--I say at least 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville has 1800 students in grades 10-12, SE has 1650 in 9-12, Syosset has 2159 9-12, GC has 1100 9-12, Manhasset has just over 1,000 9-12, CSH has just over 900 9-12. Massapequa has 1800 10-12, Farmingdale has 1900 9-12, Lynbrook has 900 9-12. So based on enrollment WM, Syosset, Massapequa and Farmingdale should be dominant. The mere fact that GC, Manhasset, CSH and Lynbrook can compete with schools that are close to twice their size speaks volumes about those programs.

I would also put Wantagh in that mix

The brownie mix?

Wantagh is no where near competing with the likes of GC and Manhasset. Program long overdue for some fresh faces coaching over there. Always some talented players there but the coach cant win a big game.

Gents & Ladies, the varsity season is upon us. I want to take a minute to wish all of your sons a healthy and prosperous season. We argue and rip each other on here, but at the end of the day I hope every young man from Long Island succeeds and meets his full potential. Enjoy this season as there are few!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gents & Ladies, the varsity season is upon us. I want to take a minute to wish all of your sons a healthy and prosperous season. We argue and rip each other on here, but at the end of the day I hope every young man from Long Island succeeds and meets his full potential. Enjoy this season as there are few!

Well said.

Thanks for this. You have restored my faith in ALL Long Islanders.

Good luck to all teams.

Enjoy the season..

All due respect, I have had 2 boys D1 commits and my boys didn't even play for a travel team and we did nothing to pursue lacrosse. When you go to the general tournaments, if your son is a standout they shine on their own.

Yeah...I don't know where the poster was going with the no athletes in 5 years, sissy, fancy prancy Syosset thing. Sounds like envy speaking. From what can read, all the poster was talking about was the change in the islands demographics. This is what happens when you have a top academic school district. Smart people want to move there and give their kids the best education. Happens in Manhasset, Jericho etc. And who is to say these kids don't get more involved in team sports....maybe the will? Also, most if not all LAX players play multiple sports and are dedicated, which is proven by the achievements at a school like Syosset. Syosset as well as other schools like them will continue to run competitive programs and produce collegiate ready athletes for a long time. You can't control demographics and the future, but all that means is some other school district on LI will rise to the top, and LI will continue to be a breading ground for LAX players.
The reason why LAX will not become big in the south and in the rust belt comes down to money. There is no "LAX life" after college....no big contracts and endorsement deals and unfortunately, there never will. Football will still be king in those areas. As someone who played and loves the sport, it kills me to say this, but LAX is not a sport that will have commercial success. And if there is no money in it for broadcasters, there will be no money in it for teams, which means MLL players will need to keep their day job as they will still make less than $20K/year. So use LAX to get into a better college, a college you may not get into with good grades alone, have fun, enjoy the time and set yourself up for your life after college!

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

So you sucked at lacrosse. That's all you had to say, "I sucked at lacrosse".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

Let me help you. Most people continue to play lacrosse to the highest level possible because they love the sport. Most of those same people are not trying to pursue a career as full-time professional athlete. Almost all of college athletes that play the other sports you mention also are not pursuing careers as professional athletes, but they use their sports to get better college opportunities, and they also love their sports. Having the opportunity to be a college athlete is a remarkable experience that only a minority of high school athletes get to experience; I take it you aren't one of those.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

never ever understood this argument - why play volley ball, archery or almost any other sport? Why would any girl play any sport since they have virtually no professional leagues. 99.99999% of HS athletes play for the love of the sport and or being a part of a team. Lacrosse has been very very good to a lot of HS athletes on Long Island whether it is help getting into a school, a little financial assistance with a school or just the thrill of competing with friends. I would urge all kids to play sport/sports that they love.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

You are right, it would be much smarter to pursue the dream of playing in MLB or maybe the in the NBA, NHL, or NFL. Why in the world would you have you kid use lacrosse to get accepted at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Notre Dame, Duke, Army, Navy, Air Force, Johns Hopkins, Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, Brown, Penn, Dartmouth, Etc..

Yes, lets be honest: Why in the world would you shoot for any of those schools...? There is no future after college lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

You win......the dumbest thing stated on BOTC. College Scholarship wise the breakdown is as follows...only the facts on BOTC--from the NCAA--Football-85, Basketball-13, baseball-11.7, hockey-18, soccer-10 and lax-12.6. Now for the facts since that's what is important on BOTC..........From the NCAA the % of college athletes making the professional level is as follows..Football-1.6%, Basketball-1.1%, Baseball-9.7%, hockey-6.6%, soccer-1.4%. As for travel money makers.. travel baseball, basketball, hockey and soccer are larger and have more teams, travel, AAU clubs, than lax. Soooo....what is the point you are trying to make with your idiotic statement>>>

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

You never played or were awful, otherwise you wouldn't be so confused.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

I guess I'll tell my daughter to quit field hockey as a 9 year old, because some butthurt loser that didn't play any sports after middle school came up with a revelation that only activities that lead to professional sports contracts should be pursued.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

Sure, because physical fitness, character, broadened educational opportunities, sportsmanship, competition, fun, camaraderie, and life experiences aren't worth anything in life. The recreational sports industries across the world thank you for bringing this matter to light.

Do you have any idea how many HS All-Americans sit on the bench at football powerhouses? What money is the 5th string guard on the Crimson Tide or Clemson Tigers making at his sport? Lacrosse kids by and large come from affluent families, they see lacrosse for what it is, an opportunity to play a sport in college, have great memories, get a degree and then get a good job. If you think every D-1 college football player is making the pros, you have never played the game. Basketball and baseball are even harder to become pros, and forget hockey. So I don't think anyone on BOTC is expecting their kid to get rich playing lacrosse, well educated and then a job afterward.

Playing the game because the kids love to play is great. Kids playing because the parents push them and think it is the path to a "better school" than they can otherwise get into is ridiculous. When I suggested To my son to accept a school over his head he asked why should he go to a school where he would have to be a full time athlete and then struggle in school instead of going to a school at his level. A C average at an ivy or getting pushed out because of bad grades doesn't get you far. Good grades in hs get you moremoney than lacrosse will. The days of getting great jobs just because you played lacrosse are over So time for parents to get a reality check. Any sport is great for the kids that enjoy the sport but being a great lacrosse player now only gives you a great opportunity to be a lacrosse coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the game because the kids love to play is great. Kids playing because the parents push them and think it is the path to a "better school" than they can otherwise get into is ridiculous. When I suggested To my son to accept a school over his head he asked why should he go to a school where he would have to be a full time athlete and then struggle in school instead of going to a school at his level. A C average at an ivy or getting pushed out because of bad grades doesn't get you far. Good grades in hs get you moremoney than lacrosse will. The days of getting great jobs just because you played lacrosse are over So time for parents to get a reality check. Any sport is great for the kids that enjoy the sport but being a great lacrosse player now only gives you a great opportunity to be a lacrosse coach

Not sure if you have been through the process or not but I have and I can tell you it is a lot harder getting into an Ivy league school than staying in. For every kid accepted there are probably 10 more qualified. If you are a 95 GPA, 1300 SAT and 28 ACT kid you probably don't have a great chance of admission but could handle the academics. If that same student is an exceptional lacrosse player with those numbers you could have a better path through admissions if the coach and AD support your application. If you are a 2 time all american lacrosse player with an 89 average and 1100 on the SAT's you are correct. you probably should not be looking Ivy.

Lacrosse is no different than debating, crew or fencing, If that is your advantage to get a leg up on admission than use it. I also don't have a problem pushing your kid anyway you can to get them into the best school they can be it sports or any other extra curricular activity. IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the game because the kids love to play is great. Kids playing because the parents push them and think it is the path to a "better school" than they can otherwise get into is ridiculous. When I suggested To my son to accept a school over his head he asked why should he go to a school where he would have to be a full time athlete and then struggle in school instead of going to a school at his level. A C average at an ivy or getting pushed out because of bad grades doesn't get you far. Good grades in hs get you moremoney than lacrosse will. The days of getting great jobs just because you played lacrosse are over So time for parents to get a reality check. Any sport is great for the kids that enjoy the sport but being a great lacrosse player now only gives you a great opportunity to be a lacrosse coach

Absolutely one of the most misguided posts I' have read here. The lacrosse pipeline to corporate jobs is alive and well and will continue to be for many years. I am speaking from personal experience on this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a good game, but let's be honest the real sports are: Baseball, Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey. If you are a great athlete I never will understand why the push by parents for lacrosse? For the 10-50% scholarship that you will receive from a university at age 14 or 15? You have nothing big to shoot for with lacrosse after college. The MLL is a joke! Imagine your kid is really good at one of those other sports, why throw it away just to play college lax? For the parties? In 4 years you are finished unless maybe you can play in the beer league (MLL) for quarters. I never will understand it, I see many potentially great athletes just settle for lacrosse. Is it because dad played in the 80's when no one played the game outside the Northeast? So he pushes it hard on his kid? In our time if you could catch, run and throw you were the best around? The only thing that has evolved in lacrosse is how much of a huge money maker it is for certain people. Could you imagine your parents doing what parents do today, and for the same college scholarship money as we had 30-40 years ago! Everything since the 60's is the same in lacrosse. Sad but unfortunately all true.

Did you just reference soccer as a "real sport"? Soccer? I'll pass. I don't want my kid playing a sport that accepts acting hurt as a strategy. You know, diving and then rolling around on the ground like a you got shot. It's as embarrassing as your post.

Oh no. My life is shattered. What will I brag about around the water cooler at work and in the deli in town...my 9th grader didn't make varsity. I've pushed him so hard and missed birthday parties and vacations and other sports for this and the dumb coach with state championships on his resume just doesn't get it. Will change schools and club to fix this. I can control it and get what i want, I know I can. I mean what will the recruiters think--only on Jv as a Freshman???? FML My son is so naive and thinks its ok and will be fun to play with his friends and classmates on jv...the softening of America.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you have any idea how many HS All-Americans sit on the bench at football powerhouses? What money is the 5th string guard on the Crimson Tide or Clemson Tigers making at his sport? Lacrosse kids by and large come from affluent families, they see lacrosse for what it is, an opportunity to play a sport in college, have great memories, get a degree and then get a good job. If you think every D-1 college football player is making the pros, you have never played the game. Basketball and baseball are even harder to become pros, and forget hockey. So I don't think anyone on BOTC is expecting their kid to get rich playing lacrosse, well educated and then a job afterward.

Great answer

in anticipation of scrimmages starting next week i would like to either congratulate my son's team on beating _____ or if they lose I would like to point out that scrimmages don't mean a thing

the starters for A were only in for first half while B played their starters until the 3q so the halftime score is all that matters....

Says the father who buried his own son by not picking up a stick & now fights his sons battles. Green is a bad color to wear unless it's St . Patrick's Day. Stop talking until your own son can actually stand on his own two feet. Putting down others when your kid sucks is just a displacement of energy. Go home, pick up a stick & have a catch with your son instead of spending time here.

Garden City has a bunch skilled and athletic underclassmen.
Looks like the makings of a youth movement on Varsity this year.

Young kids all played important parts on Championship football team too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Says the father who buried his own son by not picking up a stick & now fights his sons battles. Green is a bad color to wear unless it's St . Patrick's Day. Stop talking until your own son can actually stand on his own two feet. Putting down others when your kid sucks is just a displacement of energy. Go home, pick up a stick & have a catch with your son instead of spending time here.

Anybody have any idea what this post is in reference to? I would love to put my two cents in but I am really at a loss, is the uniform color green or is it green with envy? If that diatribe wasn't a displacement of energy I have no idea what is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Says the father who buried his own son by not picking up a stick & now fights his sons battles. Green is a bad color to wear unless it's St . Patrick's Day. Stop talking until your own son can actually stand on his own two feet. Putting down others when your kid sucks is just a displacement of energy. Go home, pick up a stick & have a catch with your son instead of spending time here.

Anybody have any idea what this post is in reference to? I would love to put my two cents in but I am really at a loss, is the uniform color green or is it green with envy? If that diatribe wasn't a displacement of energy I have no idea what is.

kind of reminds me of email spam that put a bunch of words together that really goes out went after patrick and mean battle was not.. oops got off track, means nothing. ignore!!!

are you saying that garden city is somehow in a rebuilding year with youth movement?
not very clear. if so look how that worked out a few years ago after back to back state championships, they basically rebuilt and lost in Nassau cty to manhasett in game they should have won if they used the older guys. freshman were way over their heads and g.c gave away the game sticking with a few who were not ready.

Where's 91 star koid from Brentwood for SA teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where's 91 star koid from Brentwood for SA teams?

Brentwood? What year?

Looks like lax season is going to be off to slow start. With Blizzard coming, scrimmages and practices will be cancelled.

My son and daughter were just talking and saying remember those Shamrock Shoot outs. That would have been this week or next week. Those were some of the coldest memories they have.

Oh bad memories... Worst cold days of their lives. Always wished it would be 40+ was always freezing literally 32 and under with snow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where's 91 star koid from Brentwood for SA teams?

Brentwood? What year?

2020

91 "star" is on freshman. How much of a star could he be if his sister is on JV for the same school? Something doesn't add up. Where's super star dad?

Do teams actually make cuts anymore

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 "star" is on freshman. How much of a star could he be if his sister is on JV for the same school? Something doesn't add up. Where's super star dad?

Pequa girl stop creating lies and starting trouble.

??

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Will any teams get in scrimmages before the season starts? First official game for us is next Tuesday. Gonna be a crazy season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Will any teams get in scrimmages before the season starts? First official game for us is next Tuesday. Gonna be a crazy season.

Heard everybody is scared to scrimmage us and are looking to cancel because of some flurries expected, such BS, they know we were going to kill them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Will any teams get in scrimmages before the season starts? First official game for us is next Tuesday. Gonna be a crazy season.

Heard everybody is scared to scrimmage us and are looking to cancel because of some flurries expected, such BS, they know we were going to kill them

Well, you guys are scared of us guys because we're the bestest in the whole county.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son and daughter were just talking and saying remember those Shamrock Shoot outs. That would have been this week or next week. Those were some of the coldest memories they have.

Oh bad memories... Worst cold days of their lives. Always wished it would be 40+ was always freezing literally 32 and under with snow.

Shamrock Shootout is scheduled for this Sunday. Doubt it will happen if there are 18 inches of snow on the ground.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Will any teams get in scrimmages before the season starts? First official game for us is next Tuesday. Gonna be a crazy season.

Heard everybody is scared to scrimmage us and are looking to cancel because of some flurries expected, such BS, they know we were going to kill them

Well, you guys are scared of us guys because we're the bestest in the whole county.

How many D1 commits do you have?

Oh, that's it....we have more!!

In addition to Long Island getting 12+, hearing there could be 8 inches in Elizabeth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I'm saying they are young talented and deep.
Should be good for a Coulle of years.
7yc3es

Will any teams get in scrimmages before the season starts? First official game for us is next Tuesday. Gonna be a crazy season.

Heard everybody is scared to scrimmage us and are looking to cancel because of some flurries expected, such BS, they know we were going to kill them

Well, you guys are scared of us guys because we're the bestest in the whole county.

How many D1 commits do you have?

Oh, that's it....we have more!!

Well we have that many too!

Elizabeth who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Elizabeth who?

Lacrosse in Queens?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In addition to Long Island getting 12+, hearing there could be 8 inches in Elizabeth

Your wife called. Said it is more like 3" in Elizabeth. So Elizabeth isn't so lucky as it turns out

yeah, but way better than being inverted, Kaitlyn

funny thing is,...your wife called and begs to differ...then again, so many have gone there that she could be confused...

Wow, this site really degraded. I used to check it out religiously, but it became filled with nasty comments and no useful information. It seems to have gotten worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, this site really degraded. I used to check it out religiously, but it became filled with nasty comments and no useful information. It seems to have gotten worse.

And you have added so much more to the discussion

Yes very sad

last minute scrimmage cancellation today, looks like somebody is very afraid to play us!!!!!,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

last minute scrimmage cancellation today, looks like somebody is very afraid to play us!!!!!,

note sure many or anyone has enough days to Legally have a scrimmage (in NY)?

No idea what school is being referenced by the above, but whose fields are even in condition to play? As a coach I'd have reservations about my kids playing outside today on any surface. I'll rest my horses till better conditions when it actually counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

last minute scrimmage cancellation today, looks like somebody is very afraid to play us!!!!!,

NYS requires teams have 8 practices before a scrimmage, and teams are not allowed to practice 7 days in a row. Makes it impossible for anyone on LI to have had a scrimage today since schools were closed yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

last minute scrimmage cancellation today, looks like somebody is very afraid to play us!!!!!,

Trolling much???

Any idea who is coaching at Walt Whitman this year?

Coach Michael Hunt...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Michael Hunt...

Assisted by Michael Rifone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Michael Hunt...

Wait--Where's Mike Hunt? Is his assistant Pepi Roni or Craven Morehead?

Mike?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Michael Hunt...

Wait--Where's Mike Hunt? Is his assistant Pepi Roni or Craven Morehead?

What about [lacrosse] Goesinya? I heard he is good.

didn't he coach with that old guy from way back, Buster Cherry?

No. Buster Cherry worked with [lacrosse] Hertz.

You sure?....could have sworn it was [lacrosse] Fitzintite who worked with ol' Buster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You sure?....could have sworn it was [lacrosse] Fitzintite who worked with ol' Buster

I heard that Phil McCrackin is coaching the Defense.

time to get back to lacrosse - saw a scrimmage today and both teams played decent enough considering the weather and I suspect both will be playing in the heat of June as well - good luck to all

Are you two related to Hugh Janus or Stu Padasol?

no but cousin of Justin Heranus and distant cousin of Kareem Oliver DaBeli

can anyone report in that their fields are clear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can anyone report in that their fields are clear.

Yup!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can anyone report in that their fields are clear.

Hills East and West have a plow and just got them cleaned yesterday. They were frozen and couldn't clean them off until yesterday when it softened up. Scrimages were cancelled Wed, but looks like they are on for next week. First game is the last week of the month.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can anyone report in that their fields are clear.

Hills East and West have a plow and just got them cleaned yesterday. They were frozen and couldn't clean them off until yesterday when it softened up. Scrimages were cancelled Wed, but looks like they are on for next week. First game is the last week of the month.

Any scrimmages tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

can anyone report in that their fields are clear.

Hills East and West have a plow and just got them cleaned yesterday. They were frozen and couldn't clean them off until yesterday when it softened up. Scrimages were cancelled Wed, but looks like they are on for next week. First game is the last week of the month.

Any scrimmages tomorrow?

yes - Hills East has a scrimmage tomorrow (Saturday)

Syosset v St. Anthonys scrimmaged today

Hills East scrimmaged Sayville today. This game has been close the past few years. Not today, maybe Hills had some players not eligable for the scrimmage, maybe they were working on some things.

Sloppy as always for a first scrimmage between both teams. Failed clears , bad passes, equal both ways. Sayville won the face off battle and looked sharper on offense.

Each team had 1 man up , hills converted, Sayville did not. Sayville up 5-2 after first break. 11-3 before subbing.

Port vs Manhasset

So did Oceanside and South Side at OHSY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset v St. Anthonys scrimmaged today

totally dominated and would have won a regular game by 3 or 4

How was the Smithtown East / chaminade game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was the Smithtown East / chaminade game?

Great

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset v St. Anthonys scrimmaged today

totally dominated and would have won a regular game by 3 or 4

Really? Who dominated?

Petty even game that I seen!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset v St. Anthonys scrimmaged today

totally dominated and would have won a regular game by 3 or 4

Really? Who dominated?

Neither, both teams looked even . They pretty much went goal for goal. Good match up

How did Penn commit do? And is 91 star kid on varisty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Penn commit do? And is 91 star kid on varisty?

does it really matter.

When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question.

Just because a player is committed doesn't mean he is better. Additionally, lacrosse is a team sport, perhaps the other player meshes better with the team. Could the top 20 commit be a selfish player, all about Number 1?

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question.

IMHO every situation is different, you can turn the question around and say "When a top 20 committed player plays over kids who are clearly better players how should a parent respond? " as both cases happen all the time. There are 10 spots on the field and unless this is goal then good players should get in the field, maybe not when you want or the position you would like but a kid committed to a top 20 school should be able to get on the field. HS coaches should not care where a kid is committed or if he starts on his summer team, he should be concerned with who gives him the bast chance of winning. regardless of who he is related to.

Parents five biggest reasons for a kid not playing
#1) other kids parents give money to booster club
#2) my kid does not play on coaches pay for play summer team
#3) kid playing over my kid is coaches (Son, Nephew or Godson)
#4) Kid playing over my son is committed to D1 school
#5) Kid playing over my kid has a parent on the school board

Actual biggest reason your kid isn't playing
#1) Coach thinks another kid gives team a better chance of winning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

What doesn't happen ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question.

The important aspect of all of this (sports in HS) is to teach kids about life's lessons. That's what sports are all about. Providing kids opportunities to make decisions, experience success, and sometimes failure, and develop resiliency and coping skills, ;earn to be a good teammate and friend and stay a healthy all at the same time. My suggestion to you would be to empower your son. First, tell him to work harder on the filed during practice. Do things to stand out both on the field and off. Be the first at practice and the last to leave, be the first in the sprints, take your role on the team seriously and show the coach you willing to work harder for more exposure. Second, i would teach your child to advocate for himself. He should schedule a private meeting with the coach and ask for some constructive criticism as to how to improve and how he could work his way onto the field more. Then strive to meet those goals. My biggest piece of advice is to stay out of it as a parent. You are only debilitating your son's ability to solve problems and be a self advocate. Give him the strategies and let him figure it out. If he chooses not to then it falls on him. but, he needs to realize that he has the control and the ability to influence this situation not the parents. Coaches respect when kids speak to them maturely and privately. It's not about his personal playing time it's about making the team better. Your son has to figure out how he can do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

I agree with your entire post, all the way up to the end. What is the basis for the private/public difference?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

You are correct however i was replying to a parent asking what to do about a relative of a coach playing over their special child..."When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

okay can of worms being open.

What schools HS does this happen the most?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question.

IMHO every situation is different, you can turn the question around and say "When a top 20 committed player plays over kids who are clearly better players how should a parent respond? " as both cases happen all the time. There are 10 spots on the field and unless this is goal then good players should get in the field, maybe not when you want or the position you would like but a kid committed to a top 20 school should be able to get on the field. HS coaches should not care where a kid is committed or if he starts on his summer team, he should be concerned with who gives him the bast chance of winning. regardless of who he is related to.

Parents five biggest reasons for a kid not playing
#1) other kids parents give money to booster club
#2) my kid does not play on coaches pay for play summer team
#3) kid playing over my kid is coaches (Son, Nephew or Godson)
#4) Kid playing over my son is committed to D1 school
#5) Kid playing over my kid has a parent on the school board

Actual biggest reason your kid isn't playing
#1) Coach thinks another kid gives team a better chance of winning

Unfortunately the # 1 reason for a coach should be what you say, but in many cases among high schools this is not the case. Many LI HS teams are run by parents who have a lot of power and say over the HS coach, who is also a teacher in the HS. Most teacher-coaches care about 1 thing: Getting paid and moving on to the next sport if they coach multiple ones. And the HS coaches who run a Summer program also only care about 1 thing: Getting paid!! No HS coach should be able to run a pay to play Summer program in the same school district. It's ridiculous! So a lot of favors and nepotism occur. Sometimes costing the programs championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

Oh it does and it did happen on D1 level last year, See Binghamton thread on laxpower from last year - actually was a factor in coach losing his job

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

okay can of worms being open.

What schools HS does this happen the most?

I wasn't citing HS examples - I simply said that if it happens in the pros and colleges, it will also happen at levels below that. Since this is in many cases a direct result of recruiting, it would likely be more a problem in private HSs, since there is really no such thing as recruiting in public HS. I watched this play out personally in a DIII college football program where a highly recruited freshman was given almost 2 full seasons of mediocrity before the coach finally pulled the plug on a guy and let better performing players get deserved time. I know others who saw and have recounted similar during their times in other schools in other programs/sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

okay can of worms being open.

What schools HS does this happen the most?

I wasn't citing HS examples - I simply said that if it happens in the pros and colleges, it will also happen at levels below that. Since this is in many cases a direct result of recruiting, it would likely be more a problem in private HSs, since there is really no such thing as recruiting in public HS. I watched this play out personally in a DIII college football program where a highly recruited freshman was given almost 2 full seasons of mediocrity before the coach finally pulled the plug on a guy and let better performing players get deserved time. I know others who saw and have recounted similar during their times in other schools in other programs/sports.

As parents we can remember fondly of all the great things our sons have accomplished on the playing field and feel qualified to watch games and determine that our child is a better player then another kid but the other kid is playing. This is the classic case of everybody loves the back up quarterback except in these cases the back up is our sons.

What nobody gets to see is how they preform in practice? how hard they work in the weight room, how coachable they are, do they show up on time for meetings and practices and how they look on films. These are the things coaches see that we do not. It is easy to sit in the stands on Saturday afternoon and watch the game and decide the coach doesn't know what he is doing but they should always no better then us.

GC verse Syo today? is this the start of the season? Non Conference?

6-5 game or 10-4 game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

You are correct however i was replying to a parent asking what to do about a relative of a coach playing over their special child..."When a coaches relative plays over kids who are clearly better players (kids committed to Top 20 programs), how should a parent respond? Serious question."

Realistically you have no recourse. Go to the coach and the player will be done, coach may kill the kid's rep with college coach. I would stand down on that one, especially if the kid is committed to a Top 20. Who cares?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

okay can of worms being open.

What schools HS does this happen the most?

I wasn't citing HS examples - I simply said that if it happens in the pros and colleges, it will also happen at levels below that. Since this is in many cases a direct result of recruiting, it would likely be more a problem in private HSs, since there is really no such thing as recruiting in public HS. I watched this play out personally in a DIII college football program where a highly recruited freshman was given almost 2 full seasons of mediocrity before the coach finally pulled the plug on a guy and let better performing players get deserved time. I know others who saw and have recounted similar during their times in other schools in other programs/sports.

As parents we can remember fondly of all the great things our sons have accomplished on the playing field and feel qualified to watch games and determine that our child is a better player then another kid but the other kid is playing. This is the classic case of everybody loves the back up quarterback except in these cases the back up is our sons.

What nobody gets to see is how they preform in practice? how hard they work in the weight room, how coachable they are, do they show up on time for meetings and practices and how they look on films. These are the things coaches see that we do not. It is easy to sit in the stands on Saturday afternoon and watch the game and decide the coach doesn't know what he is doing but they should always no better then us.

You're missing the point - the perception issue is separate. The point is that there are cases where an underperforming player does get to play while a better option sits on the bench. It's not prevalent, but to pretend it never happens is untrue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately, deal with it. Doesn't happen at the DI, II or III level.

If you are saying that there is never a situation in the college ranks where a player who is currently capable of playing better than another, but is still relegated to play behind that other player, you are wrong. This happens a lot with a player who is highly recruited, and then, when that player doesn't live up to expectations, he or she is provided a much longer rope to achieve the expected potential before the coach finally lets the player(s) 'behind' that player get their chance. [lacrosse], this happens in the pros with high paid contracts! Bottom line, is that if it happens in the pros, in colleges, then it also happens at all of the levels below, with private schools being worse than public schools at the HS levels.

okay can of worms being open.

What schools HS does this happen the most?

I wasn't citing HS examples - I simply said that if it happens in the pros and colleges, it will also happen at levels below that. Since this is in many cases a direct result of recruiting, it would likely be more a problem in private HSs, since there is really no such thing as recruiting in public HS. I watched this play out personally in a DIII college football program where a highly recruited freshman was given almost 2 full seasons of mediocrity before the coach finally pulled the plug on a guy and let better performing players get deserved time. I know others who saw and have recounted similar during their times in other schools in other programs/sports.

As parents we can remember fondly of all the great things our sons have accomplished on the playing field and feel qualified to watch games and determine that our child is a better player then another kid but the other kid is playing. This is the classic case of everybody loves the back up quarterback except in these cases the back up is our sons.

What nobody gets to see is how they preform in practice? how hard they work in the weight room, how coachable they are, do they show up on time for meetings and practices and how they look on films. These are the things coaches see that we do not. It is easy to sit in the stands on Saturday afternoon and watch the game and decide the coach doesn't know what he is doing but they should always no better then us.

You're missing the point - the perception issue is separate. The point is that there are cases where an underperforming player does get to play while a better option sits on the bench. It's not prevalent, but to pretend it never happens is untrue.

understand your point but who better to decide who plays than the coaching staff that see and evaluate everything - players play, coaches coach and parents complain

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC verse Syo today? is this the start of the season? Non Conference?

6-5 game or 10-4 game

This is the start of the season, not a scrimmage and it counts and yes it is a non league game - I predict a 11 - 7 final score

As parents we can remember fondly of all the great things our sons have accomplished on the playing field and feel qualified to watch games and determine that our child is a better player then another kid but the other kid is playing. This is the classic case of everybody loves the back up quarterback except in these cases the back up is our sons.

What nobody gets to see is how they preform in practice? how hard they work in the weight room, how coachable they are, do they show up on time for meetings and practices and how they look on films. These are the things coaches see that we do not. It is easy to sit in the stands on Saturday afternoon and watch the game and decide the coach doesn't know what he is doing but they should always no better then us. [/quote]

You're missing the point - the perception issue is separate. The point is that there are cases where an underperforming player does get to play while a better option sits on the bench. It's not prevalent, but to pretend it never happens is untrue.[/quote]

understand your point but who better to decide who plays than the coaching staff that see and evaluate everything - players play, coaches coach and parents complain
[/quote]

On the whole, generally, yes, the coach is in charge, so they do make the decisions. And there will be complaints for all kinds or reasons, right or wrong. But, like anywhere else, coaches are far from infallible. This thread started when someone made the statement in absolute terms that "only the best players play", that there are never cases where lesser players play over better players - well that is not always the case, and my illustrative example was just one of those cases. I should have also added that in my example, the coach acknowledged later on to his assistant coaches that he made a mistake in playing the highly recruited player over other players for so long.

11-7 GC is a good prediction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-7 GC is a good prediction.

"Good prediction" or "Preferred outcome"??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-7 GC is a good prediction.

13-8 SYO

"11-7 GC is a good prediction.

"Good prediction" or "Preferred outcome"??!"

BOTH! and I'm not from GC!

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

well you were wrong

Garden city went home crying 9-5 they lost year in a row!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"11-7 GC is a good prediction.

"Good prediction" or "Preferred outcome"??!"

BOTH! and I'm not from GC!

9-5 SYO, very good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

oooooooops - two years in a row Syo over GC in opener 10-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

You must be referring to ancient history.... Back in your glory days.

Can you spell Three-peat?

2015 Syo 9 / GC 7
2016 Syo 6 / GC 3
2017 Syo 9 / GC 5

There seems to be a widening trend in the scores as well.

Can't wait for all the usual GC excuses to roll in... Was it too sunny at the field? Too warm? The turf too hard? Or, was the officiating bad?

Face it Mutts are tougher than Pure Breeds.

Good luck for the rest of the season - see you next year.

Not surprised the Syo vCham scrimmage was very close, both teams looked strong, Syo will be very tough this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

You must be referring to ancient history.... Back in your glory days.

Can you spell Three-peat?

2015 Syo 9 / GC 7
2016 Syo 6 / GC 3
2017 Syo 9 / GC 5

There seems to be a widening trend in the scores as well.

Can't wait for all the usual GC excuses to roll in... Was it too sunny at the field? Too warm? The turf too hard? Or, was the officiating bad?

Face it Mutts are tougher than Pure Breeds.

Good luck for the rest of the season - see you next year.

Score was 10-5 with that final syo goal in the last few minutes
Hope the GC talking about history repeating itself was at the game to see history repeating itself in person with another GC loss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

You must be referring to ancient history.... Back in your glory days.

Can you spell Three-peat?

2015 Syo 9 / GC 7
2016 Syo 6 / GC 3
2017 Syo 9 / GC 5

There seems to be a widening trend in the scores as well.

Can't wait for all the usual GC excuses to roll in... Was it too sunny at the field? Too warm? The turf too hard? Or, was the officiating bad?

Face it Mutts are tougher than Pure Breeds.

Good luck for the rest of the season - see you next year.

Here's your excuse, enrollment of 2500 versus 1800.

3rd year in row Syosset won opener against garden city

Congrats to the better team, good luck going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

You must be referring to ancient history.... Back in your glory days.

Can you spell Three-peat?

2015 Syo 9 / GC 7
2016 Syo 6 / GC 3
2017 Syo 9 / GC 5

There seems to be a widening trend in the scores as well.

Can't wait for all the usual GC excuses to roll in... Was it too sunny at the field? Too warm? The turf too hard? Or, was the officiating bad?

Face it Mutts are tougher than Pure Breeds.

Good luck for the rest of the season - see you next year.

[/quot

Here's your excuse, enrollment of 2500 versus 1800.

I can't decide who the bigger tool is in the above conversation...the mutt or the pure breed. Hope they're both neutered

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are you going to learn Syo guy? Year in and year out, with only a couple of exceptions, the Best in B and C beats the best that A has to offer. I expect history to rpt itself this afternoon.

You must be referring to ancient history.... Back in your glory days.

Can you spell Three-peat?

2015 Syo 9 / GC 7
2016 Syo 6 / GC 3
2017 Syo 9 / GC 5

There seems to be a widening trend in the scores as well.
.
Can't wait for all the usual GC excuses to roll in... Was it too sunny at the field? Too warm? The turf too hard? Or, was the officiating bad?

Face it Mutts are tougher than Pure Breeds.

Good luck for the rest of the season - see you next year.

Score was 10-5 with that final syo goal in the last few minutes
Hope the GC talking about history repeating itself was at the game to see history repeating itself in person with another GC loss

Wrong, 9-5. There won't be excuses, so go back to whatever hole you crawled out of. The is a well played game by both sides, game was closer than the score indicates. A very well fought game to both teams.

Yes those extra 700 kids who were living in a foreign country at 3 years old made the difference
The GC. 3 yo were already playing in their second year of organized lacrosse while many of the Syosset kids were learning how to speak English
GC has an excellent team and will have an excellent season but the 18 GC players were outscored by the 18 Syosset kids today
Stop with the enrollment numbers it means nothing

Ok Syosset. I was wrong with my prediction. Respect earned. I expected GC to be very good this year and maybe they in fact are. Hopefully CSH can get the W next week so I don't look like a complete airhead. Nice win to open your season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok Syosset. I was wrong with my prediction. Respect earned. I expected GC to be very good this year and maybe they in fact are. Hopefully CSH can get the W next week so I don't look like a complete airhead. Nice win to open your season.

Regretfully, I must concede as well.

Other surprises yesterday that I vocalized but I was wrong on--Farmingdale better than I anticipated in the battle of greens and Port perhaps not as good as I was giving them credit for.

Love it when people say the game was closer than the score. So if Syosset would have kept the pressure on would it have been worse ?
GC going to have a rough couple of years. They had a big Coaches meeting last night after the game. They put a list together of what to say about the lost. The first 3 things on the list "all of our good players are at Chaminade". Next is head coach telling the others they have to turn it around fast after all they built me a house in GC.
Thank god for their conference schedule that guarantees them at least 5 wins.

LETS SEE

What schools HS does this happen the most?[/quote]

Chaminade - all day everyday...

Holy Crap!!! What the [lacrosse] does the nationality of some who live in Syosset have to do with? Kids who don't speak English? Listen, I am a long-time Reagan Conservative and am not some pro-immigration libtard who throws labels around at everyone. But you have proven to everyone here that you are nothing more than a GC, in-bread, stick-up-your-[lacrosse], racist moron!. Its a shame....I know a number of really nice people from GC, and it is people like you that give that town a bad name. Keep working on the master race....idiot!

Chaminade vs Pequa this afternoon.... Good measuring stick game to start the year.
Close games the last 2 years with Chammy winning in OT last year, Pequa by 2 year before

Probably not inbread though...moved in from a neighboring town and looking to pull the ladder up behind them or parents from Queens... Please note, nothing wrong with either and not a negative just generally the attitude of those that have moved into GC... which is the majority.

Pequs lost 4 of there top offensive players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy Crap!!! What the [lacrosse] does the nationality of some who live in Syosset have to do with? Kids who don't speak English? Listen, I am a long-time Reagan Conservative and am not some pro-immigration libtard who throws labels around at everyone. But you have proven to everyone here that you are nothing more than a GC, in-bread, stick-up-your-[lacrosse], racist moron!. Its a shame....I know a number of really nice people from GC, and it is people like you that give that town a bad name. Keep working on the master race....idiot!

don't get your panties in a bunch, snowflake, The original post was being sarcastic saying that the excuse GC would give is that they have a smaller enrollment (a silly argument since CSH is one of the smallest enrollment on LI and has the best team on LI). And the reply post that has you so worked up was saying that the larger enrollment for Syosset is irrelevant as the demographics in Syosset leans toward nationalities that might not be rich in lacrosse tradition and by no means passing judgement on that..

While I was not the original poster or the reply poster I am confident that they were both made in jest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy Crap!!! What the [lacrosse] does the nationality of some who live in Syosset have to do with? Kids who don't speak English? Listen, I am a long-time Reagan Conservative and am not some pro-immigration libtard who throws labels around at everyone. But you have proven to everyone here that you are nothing more than a GC, in-bread, stick-up-your-[lacrosse], racist moron!. Its a shame....I know a number of really nice people from GC, and it is people like you that give that town a bad name. Keep working on the master race....idiot!

you do realize that the poster is probably not from either GC or SYO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequs lost 4 of there top offensive players.

Chaminade lost all their seniors from last year, heard a lot of teams are going to be down this year because all their seniors graduated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy Crap!!! What the [lacrosse] does the nationality of some who live in Syosset have to do with? Kids who don't speak English? Listen, I am a long-time Reagan Conservative and am not some pro-immigration libtard who throws labels around at everyone. But you have proven to everyone here that you are nothing more than a GC, in-bread, stick-up-your-[lacrosse], racist moron!. Its a shame....I know a number of really nice people from GC, and it is people like you that give that town a bad name. Keep working on the master race....idiot!

Hate to break it to you slick, but the poster was defending Syosset. Nice try though, next time read more carefully. Hmmmm, guess the in bred is a Syosset stick in the [lacrosse] moron?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably not inbread though...moved in from a neighboring town and looking to pull the ladder up behind them or parents from Queens... Please note, nothing wrong with either and not a negative just generally the attitude of those that have moved into GC... which is the majority.

So, you live there and are speaking from experience? Or you are just guessing? Thinking it's probably the latter, tool

Lets hold off on the this CSH rhetoric till they win a few games. And I hope its not a CSH guy making these impossible to substantiate claims--which are shaky at best. Solid team yes, save the hyperbole. Certainly didn't look unbeatable in scrimmages last week...

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequs lost 4 of there top offensive players.

Chaminade lost all their seniors from last year, heard a lot of teams are going to be down this year because all their seniors graduated.

Well, that's a good thing. The Chaminade juniors from last year who are now seniors are much better than last year's group of seniors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequs lost 4 of there top offensive players.

Chaminade lost all their seniors from last year, heard a lot of teams are going to be down this year because all their seniors graduated.

Well, that's a good thing. The Chaminade juniors from last year who are now seniors are much better than last year's group of seniors.

And last years Sophomores are now Juniors and they are better than last years juniors who are now Seniors, but not as good as last years public school 8th graders that are now Chammy Freshman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

?Were you ever in the lead to give the sophs a chance?

seriously GC, your Sophs are not as good as you claim. You have been saying that for years. Outside of Catholics, SW WM and Pequa take the lead on 2019. Hills WI SE have some talent but no depth in numbers like the other 3. ESM LV also has a good core group too. Sorry GC dont see your 2019's as a powerful group a few sure but please dont compare your Sophs to Syo's, but sure, give the sophs a chance. Whatever you do dont follow Chaminade's lead in making kids wait their turn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Didnt realize class of 2017 was sophomores ?

Was the Pequa Chammy game moved to May? This only helps Chaminade

Yes it was moved, the team mom already put her winter close away. So she did not have an outfit for today. So she had Jack cancel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

?Were you ever in the lead to give the sophs a chance?

seriously GC, your Sophs are not as good as you claim. You have been saying that for years. Outside of Catholics, SW WM and Pequa take the lead on 2019. Hills WI SE have some talent but no depth in numbers like the other 3. ESM LV also has a good core group too. Sorry GC dont see your 2019's as a powerful group a few sure but please dont compare your Sophs to Syo's, but sure, give the sophs a chance. Whatever you do dont follow Chaminade's lead in making kids wait their turn.

You have an unhealthy obsession with Garden City. Should probably spend more time on self enriching projects . Did your mom leave your dad for a GC guy or what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

?Were you ever in the lead to give the sophs a chance?

seriously GC, your Sophs are not as good as you claim. You have been saying that for years. Outside of Catholics, SW WM and Pequa take the lead on 2019. Hills WI SE have some talent but no depth in numbers like the other 3. ESM LV also has a good core group too. Sorry GC dont see your 2019's as a powerful group a few sure but please dont compare your Sophs to Syo's, but sure, give the sophs a chance. Whatever you do dont follow Chaminade's lead in making kids wait their turn.

You have an unhealthy obsession with Garden City. Should probably spend more time on self enriching projects . Did your mom leave your dad for a GC guy or what?

No, I think is Dad left his mom for a GC Guy. That makes much more sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

She is an "it" at best who is clueless. But hey smoke em if you got em GC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes it was moved, the team mom already put her winter close away. So she did not have an outfit for today. So she had Jack cancel.

"clothes"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

According to Newsday, the lawsuit claims that the Athletic Director pulled all varsity ballplayers from their classrooms without parental consent and brought them to an auditorium where they were separated, had their cellphones taken away, and were given no opportunity to contact their parents. They were told to write a critique of their baseball coach — “write if you think he’s too mean, write if you think he’s too old, write if you think he makes it no fun.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Lol doesn't matter what they wear, either way they can beat GC with their eyes closed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

I guess it really didn't matter, did it.

You missed the game or you just left in embarrassment? I thought the GC Parents were rather quiet, you must have been the guy crying into your read cup in the parking lot. It's OK, just ask your Coach to replace Syo with a weak Class A Team next year to give your kids an ego boost. It must be hard for them loosing to Syo 3 years in a row.

C'ya.

Any predictions for WI vs Farmingdale this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

I can't say what they wore to the game, but they left the game cloaked in victory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Haha. Dumbest thing I ever heard based on the score. Well if they were wearing there "skivvies" and beat your A$$ what does that say about GC. Were you all wearing your thongs. Is that your excuse on this one. Maybe your AD is giving out panties from her private collection to the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for WI vs Farmingdale this weekend?

WI 19 - Dalers 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the GC young guns to get their shot this year.

SYO soph led all scoring yesterday. Why not let the GC sophs get a run?

Go complain to your AD... He might be a bit busy these days however working on that age discrimination case. What really happened there? Is it true that the School Administration sequestered all of the baseball players in the school auditorium and had them write essay's about their experience on the team? How did all the tough stand up GC dads let that happen?

I think you might need to take a walk on the wild side, because unless "he" plucked his eyebrows and shaved his legs "he' is a "she"

You must have taken that walk in order to know that because those legs haven't seen the light of day in public for years!

So you're still bitter of your wife/mom leaving for a GC man? Sorry Syo dad, hey missed the game, did your boys wear shorts or skivvies?

Haha. Dumbest thing I ever heard based on the score. Well if they were wearing there "skivvies" and beat your A$$ what does that say about GC. Were you all wearing your thongs. Is that your excuse on this one. Maybe your AD is giving out panties from her private collection to the team.

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right?

In an upset, Syosset winning this verbal / typing barb war. Grow up ,all of you. Syosset beat GC and has for a few years running now. GC not what it used to be. Inbreds have been diluted. While Syosset is near the peak, on which side I'm not sure of their recent run but soon to be returning to their mean, which is down. Nice win. Hope both teams have great seasons, now lets move on. Manhasset and Massapequa will ultimately determine the fate of your seasons and how successful you are no matter the results from this game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for WI vs Farmingdale this weekend?

WI 19 - Dalers 5

seriously come on, 11 point spread no way not this early on, WI to classy for that!

lol. "TOO CLASSY". Sure, guess you haven't spent a whole lot of time down there... WI by 3. 11 is a joke... Farmingdale is decent and WI is not THAT good this year.

Didn't GC win Nassau County last year??
Love all the "GC not what it used to be" comments, It must be March

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In an upset, Syosset winning this verbal / typing barb war. Grow up ,all of you. Syosset beat GC and has for a few years running now. GC not what it used to be. Inbreds have been diluted. While Syosset is near the peak, on which side I'm not sure of their recent run but soon to be returning to their mean, which is down. Nice win. Hope both teams have great seasons, now lets move on. Manhasset and Massapequa will ultimately determine the fate of your seasons and how successful you are no matter the results from this game.

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Did GC used to lose to Syosset or ANY Nassau A teams before???? No. Program not what it used to be. Still very good, sure, but not what it used to be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't GC win Nassau County last year??
Love all the "GC not what it used to be" comments, It must be March

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In an upset, Syosset winning this verbal / typing barb war. Grow up ,all of you. Syosset beat GC and has for a few years running now. GC not what it used to be. Inbreds have been diluted. While Syosset is near the peak, on which side I'm not sure of their recent run but soon to be returning to their mean, which is down. Nice win. Hope both teams have great seasons, now lets move on. Manhasset and Massapequa will ultimately determine the fate of your seasons and how successful you are no matter the results from this game.

GC did not win Nassau County Class B last year - Manhasset LOST Nassau County Class B. Epic coaching failure - probably why Manhasset pulled the plug on the Head Coach. Or maybe that check made out to the Manhasset Coach from the GC Boosters got cashed since he knew he was toast anyway.

GC beat Manhasset twice last year, just sayin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for WI vs Farmingdale this weekend?

WI 19 - Dalers 5

seriously come on, 11 point spread no way not this early on, WI to classy for that!

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach but grit will only get you so far and they have been an OK at best team the last few years with IMHO was the best goalie on LI, who made them competitive. Without Mr Deluca in net I can not see this team competing with the top programs. I hope they do because they have such a strong history and Nassau A needs some better teams on the top. Good luck coach, hope you urn it around soon,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

I guess reading comprehension was not your best subject in school. Maybe your parents should have sent you to Chaminade, as your GC education is failing you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for WI vs Farmingdale this weekend?

WI 19 - Dalers 5

seriously come on, 11 point spread no way not this early on, WI to classy for that!

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach but grit will only get you so far and they have been an OK at best team the last few years with IMHO was the best goalie on LI, who made them competitive. Without Mr Deluca in net I can not see this team competing with the top programs. I hope they do because they have such a strong history and Nassau A needs some better teams on the top. Good luck coach, hope you urn it around soon,

Yes, blue is a color. Sometimes the color of a collar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Wait, you want me to feel you? Jeez Syosset dads have you no shame? Nice try with the compression shorts too, they were in there tighty whites, but keep trying to fool those not in the know chicken $hit, scared of the coach, embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Wait, you want me to feel you? Jeez Syosset dads have you no shame? Nice try with the compression shorts too, they were in there tighty whites, but keep trying to fool those not in the know chicken $hit, scared of the coach, embarrassing.

U seem to know a lot about this situation. Please stop stalking Syosset Lacrosse. Go have a lax catch with your kid and tell him he will get a participation trophy in June. Are u then same guy who conveniently missed the game on Tuesday? Don't feel too bad, the GC Boys are fine, the issue is the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Wait, you want me to feel you? Jeez Syosset dads have you no shame? Nice try with the compression shorts too, they were in there tighty whites, but keep trying to fool those not in the know chicken $hit, scared of the coach, embarrassing.

Tighty Whites? You must be a real old timer.... When did you graduate from GC High School, 1962? Take your meds and settle in for Wheel of Fortune tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Wait, you want me to feel you? Jeez Syosset dads have you no shame? Nice try with the compression shorts too, they were in there tighty whites, but keep trying to fool those not in the know chicken $hit, scared of the coach, embarrassing.

Tighty Whites? You must be a real old timer.... When did you graduate from GC High School, 1962? Take your meds and settle in for Wheel of Fortune tonight.

Way to deflect from the issue, I complimented Syosset for the win, then the typical low class "Brave" (in name only) started with the insults. Why don't you apologize to your son for not protecting him and standing up for him you
coward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dumbest thing you ever heard??? Dumbest thing I ever heard was Syosset dad's calling themselves "Braves" after letting their sons leave the locker room in their tighty whiteys. But hey, priorities right? (Quote)

Hey Mrs. GC, when you hold up a dead fish too many times it starts to stink. Please stop, as you are embarrassing the GC Boys Lacrosse Team who are a decent group of kids who unfortunately have a few misguided supporters.

As to your comment above, at least the Syo parents support their Coach and do not let the kids get used as pawns by the School Administration to railroad a long time coach out of the district.

Perfect, worry more about the coach than the kids, you just summed up every yellow bellied "Brave" daddy with that sentence. God bless those poor Syosset boys, they certainly don't have fathers to protect them.

The Syosset Boys don't need to have their father's protection. They were not at all embarrassed to be seen in their compression shorts. I think that is because they don't have to cover up from showing the Irish Curse like the men in GC. Feel Me?

Wait, you want me to feel you? Jeez Syosset dads have you no shame? Nice try with the compression shorts too, they were in there tighty whites, but keep trying to fool those not in the know chicken $hit, scared of the coach, embarrassing.

Tighty Whites? You must be a real old timer.... When did you graduate from GC High School, 1962? Take your meds and settle in for Wheel of Fortune tonight.

Way to deflect from the issue [lacrosse], I complimented Syosset for the win, then the typical low class "Brave" (in name only) started with the insults. Why don't you apologize to your son for not protecting him and standing up for him you
coward.

OK, I apologize to you. I'm Sorry.

Let me buy you a beer, will that be a Schlitz, or a PBR. That's what guys your age drink, right?

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Let me buy you a beer, will that be a Schlitz, or a PBR. That's what guys your age drink, right?
[/quote]

what wrong with Schiltz and PBR, had many a great nights with both of them. let's keep the bashing to GC and SYO.

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Is a 4 goal loss considered a blowout?

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

Really? You're crying to the admin to clean up anonymous posts.
Nobody is forcing you to read it. At this point, its all for comedic purposes.

If it really bothers you so much that people are engaging in high school locker room trash talking, don't come on here to read it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Sorry not a goalie's dad. Li has some of the top goalie prospects.These two happen to be playing each other. If as your post put it if they have weak defenses Infront of them then they are (or will be) that much better for it.

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach [/quote]

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...

Can Commack beat Smithtown East? Should be a great game and a great face off battle, could come down to that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

That's funny......one of them had 2 saves last year. I guess if you say so it must be true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Sorry not a goalie's dad. Li has some of the top goalie prospects.These two happen to be playing each other. If as your post put it if they have weak defenses Infront of them then they are (or will be) that much better for it.

How do you justify tops in the nation and island? Based on what?

"Really? You're crying to the admin to clean up anonymous posts.
Nobody is forcing you to read it. At this point, its all for comedic purposes.
If it really bothers you so much that people are engaging in high school locker room trash talking, don't come on here to read it."

Thanks for the diatribe bumba$$... I was poking fun at the Mod. And goading JO's like you by referring to myself as Snowflake. Christ, your IQ must be low. I am well aware of my choice and how to spend my time. Save your advice for when you look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Really? You're crying to the admin to clean up anonymous posts.
Nobody is forcing you to read it. At this point, its all for comedic purposes.
If it really bothers you so much that people are engaging in high school locker room trash talking, don't come on here to read it."

Thanks for the diatribe bumba$$... I was poking fun at the Mod. And goading JO's like you by referring to myself as Snowflake. Christ, your IQ must be low. I am well aware of my choice and how to spend my time. Save your advice for when you look in the mirror.

Hey Mod.... this guy called me a bumba$$ and said I'm stupid.
Can you clean up this behavior?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...
[/quote]

I have personally spoken to hundreds of lacrosse alumni from Farmingdale and the vote was 312 in favor of the new coach and 79 opposed to the new coach so I am not sure where you get your information but you are wrong. The alumni is solidly behind the new coach and he is AWESOME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Sorry not a goalie's dad. Li has some of the top goalie prospects.These two happen to be playing each other. If as your post put it if they have weak defenses Infront of them then they are (or will be) that much better for it.

How do you justify tops in the nation and island? Based on what?

Sorry if you want to argue, but LI has some great young talented goalies. These are two of them if you didn't know that then anything I will say doesn't matter.

Now that the season is young they all start with a fresh slate and time as it usually does will tell. I was just pointing out this was a good goalie match up with some young Sophomore talent.

As I often earmark certain games and scores. Take it if you like as opinion because any facts I state would surely be spun or used to demean another.

I will say if you have a young goalie 4th/5th/6th grade and love the position the are 2 of the goalies to watch (among others).

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

The same St. Thomas team plays against Saint Doms tomorrow too....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Sorry not a goalie's dad. Li has some of the top goalie prospects.These two happen to be playing each other. If as your post put it if they have weak defenses Infront of them then they are (or will be) that much better for it.

How do you justify tops in the nation and island? Based on what?

Based on its his or her son and they want you to know!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...

I have personally spoken to hundreds of lacrosse alumni from Farmingdale and the vote was 312 in favor of the new coach and 79 opposed to the new coach so I am not sure where you get your information but you are wrong. The alumni is solidly behind the new coach and he is AWESOME[/quote]

Your boy must be playing then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

12 - 0 in March??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

High hopes for Pequa this year.
Interested to see the impact Coach Powers will have along side Radomski

Imagine if it was 30 degrees for the Pequa game, either way Cheifs. Only advantage is they are done with 80% of ther season.
Manhasset Commack is an interesting game 11-8 Indians

Sat
Dalers vs Wi both have lots to prove great game to do it in.
HHE v Riverhead
Wantaugh v Mamaroneck (always a good close game past few years)
Chaminade in MD Mcd
Where is the Mt Siani Pelham game (Mt Siani beats Whitman in a low scoring contest, Pelham has some talent)
Smith West vs Garden City either team will be 0-2 coming out of this, what happens if they are tied. history tells us that isnt a far fetch idea with these two.
Syo vs NPort boarder war anyone
and a nice upstate battle with Victor Corning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...

I have personally spoken to hundreds of lacrosse alumni from Farmingdale and the vote was 312 in favor of the new coach and 79 opposed to the new coach so I am not sure where you get your information but you are wrong. The alumni is solidly behind the new coach and he is AWESOME

Your boy must be playing then.[/quote]

Maybe he plays for the same club the coach is with

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

12 - 0 in March??

yes - their season is over after last game next week and then playoffs start,

02/07 UNIVERSITY SCHOOL (9-5) FL Dist-28 W 19 – 2
02/11 at Gulf Coast (7-4) FL Dist-19 W 19 – 9
02/14 PIPER (1-9) FL Dist-28 W 1 – 0
02/17 LAKE HIGHLAND PREP (10-6) FL Dist-10 W 16 – 9
02/21 SOUTH PLANTATION (8-4) FL Dist-28 W 15 – 3
02/24 STONEMAN DOUGLAS (9-4) FL Dist-27 W 13 – 7
02/28 at Plantation (4-6) FL Dist-28 W 17 – 0
03/03 at Lake Mary (9-3) FL Dist-08 W 8 – 5
03/07 AMER HERE/PLANT'N (10-2) FL Dist-28 W 16 – 9
03/10 CARDINAL MOONEY (8-4) FL Dist-17 W 15 – 8
03/14 BARRON COLLIER (12-1) FL Dist-20 W 15 – 7
03/17 SAINT EDWARDS (7-5) FL Dist-23 W 19 – 4
03/21 JENSEN BEACH (4-8) FL Dist-23 –
03/24 at Massapequa (1-0) NY A Sec 8 –
03/25 at St Dominic (1-0) NY LI AAA-AA –
03/30 at Jupiter (12-3) FL Dist-24 –

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...

I have personally spoken to hundreds of lacrosse alumni from Farmingdale and the vote was 312 in favor of the new coach and 79 opposed to the new coach so I am not sure where you get your information but you are wrong. The alumni is solidly behind the new coach and he is AWESOME

Your boy must be playing then.

Maybe he plays for the same club the coach is with[/quote]

actually have no dog in the fight, kid played for him in the past and he is an awesome coach and the Dalers are lucky to have him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a hard nosed blue color team that will fight you for every inch of the field and they got themselves a great new coach

They did not get a "great new coach". There is not one alumni who is happy with the coach selection. He was the absolute WORST selection...

I have personally spoken to hundreds of lacrosse alumni from Farmingdale and the vote was 312 in favor of the new coach and 79 opposed to the new coach so I am not sure where you get your information but you are wrong. The alumni is solidly behind the new coach and he is AWESOME

Your boy must be playing then.

Maybe he plays for the same club the coach is with

actually have no dog in the fight, kid played for him in the past and he is an awesome coach and the Dalers are lucky to have him[/quote]

As we suspected. You have no idea if he is any good. And I call BS on your phony "vote"

Disgruntled Daler dude; Not sure what you have been watching the last few but the same guy that was essentially coaching the team last year is coaching it this year. Added some younger fresher blood as the "head coach". All good. It was time.

Also, either Wantagh is not as good as expected or Seaford is better--don't think these two have ever played a two goal game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

High hopes for Pequa this year.
Interested to see the impact Coach Powers will have along side Radomski

Radomski is now in charge of filling up the Water Bottles and parent relations. George Powers is fully in control of the coaching.

Massapequa should become relevant again in a few years time. I heard their 2024s are unstoppable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Really??? Google is your friend (using an incognito browser session!).

maam, you need to get out more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

look down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

That explains why the GC men are so defensive. 200lbs of Dynamite with a 2" fuse.

The forums are such fabulous entertainment. Someone needs to conduct a psychology study on the people who post to these threads and their motivation. Too much whining, complaining, attacking. What's wrong with someone disagreeing with your opinion? Try some civilized discourse.

Water bottles maybe, parents relation never,lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

that goes off early?

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

That explains why the GC men are so defensive. 200lbs of Dynamite with a 2" fuse.

That goes off quickly?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

That explains why the GC men are so defensive. 200lbs of Dynamite with a 2" fuse.

I guess your wife and mom filled you in about the size of GC men's junk. Guess yours isn't enough, don't worry , I'll send them both home when I'm done. Syosset dads aren't man enough to take care of the home front.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Undefeated St. Thomas Aquinas from Florida (12 - 0) versus Massapequa today at Burns Park. Massapequa's first game. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this game. St. Thomas Aquinas won Florida state title last year. That area is getting better year after year.

12 - 0 in March??

12-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

That explains why the GC men are so defensive. 200lbs of Dynamite with a 2" fuse.

I guess your wife and mom filled you in about the size of GC men's junk. Guess yours isn't enough, don't worry , I'll send them both home when I'm done. Syosset dads aren't man enough to take care of the home front.

Funny, are you the same guy talking about "looking down" to understand the Irish Curse? They only thing I see when I look down is the top of your wife's head. I bet your are 250 lbs with a 1" fuse.

Public School Conestoga ( who loses a lot of talent to Haverford, EA and Malvern) just beat Private Baltimore Calvert Hall in OT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Admin. Time to step in a clean this up. Irish curse? Personal insults, derogatory false ethnic jokes, wth? Any mention of bagels previously sure brought you out from behind the keyboard... GC / Syo rivalry has sunken the parents behavior to a new level--while entertaining on a sophomoric level its unneeded--please exert your power, will, and ethic superiority like when **** name comes up and help us all. Signed snowflake before someone else beats me too it. Oh, and found another tauntaun carcass on our sideline, thinking the Syosset dads dropped it on our CSH fields to distract us from the game on Tuesday.

I have heard of the Luck of the Irish, but what is the Irish Curse?

Small pee pees

That explains why the GC men are so defensive. 200lbs of Dynamite with a 2" fuse.

I guess your wife and mom filled you in about the size of GC men's junk. Guess yours isn't enough, don't worry , I'll send them both home when I'm done. Syosset dads aren't man enough to take care of the home front.

Funny, are you the same guy talking about "looking down" to understand the Irish Curse? They only thing I see when I look down is the top of your wife's head. I bet your are 250 lbs with a 1" fuse.

Dude, you're obsessed with d!ck, pretty sure the only head you see when you look down is another man, but keep denying it, you're mom and wife told me the truth about you. Good luck, it's widely accepted now, you can compare notes with your mom, she said your dad was just like you, couldn't take care of business either. Legacy of the Ayosset dad, coward obsessed with d!ck.

What a shame, this site became a place for losers.

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Only one goal for Smithtown West today ? Is that a typo?

Word

Ok. Let's move on about all the name calling. Can we just talk lacrosse. Some people actually come on here for information. Let's stop with this crap. Also stop with hiding attacks and knocking of players in long posts. It need to stop. Come on people can't we just talk lacrosse without attacking and mentioning kids.

Could talk good lacrosse if it ever gets posted..

I don't think people are too smart. Stop taking jabs at players in posts. They will be deleted. If you want to please register and make your long posts. Would love to have someone so into the game register. Please reach out to me. It's easy.

I will continue to delete any posts that mention any kid in a negative way. For those who don't agree with that please go onto another site. I will not allow it even if you try and hide it in long posts.

Heard WM put a nice beat down on SA yesterday in scrimmage. Any truth to this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard WM put a nice beat down on SA yesterday in scrimmage. Any truth to this?

Is 7-4 a beat down?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard WM put a nice beat down on SA yesterday in scrimmage. Any truth to this?

Is 7-4 a beat down?

Yes

Not a bad weekend
Sat
Dalers vs Wi both have lots to prove great game to do it in.
Wi 8-6. Both teams under 10.
HHE v Riverhead
HHE 12-8 thought it would have been closer misinformed about a transfer in Riverhead
Wantaugh v Mamaroneck (always a good close game past few years)
Mamo 12-11
Chaminade in MD Mcd
McDaniel 12-6 ouch!
Where is the Mt Siani Pelham game (Mt Siani beats Whitman in a low scoring contest, Pelham has some talent)
Did this game go off in Mass?
Smith West vs Garden City either team will be 0-2 coming out of this, what happens if they are tied. history tells us that isnt a far fetch idea with these two. Hadn't heard much about this 1. Is about all I can say.
Syo vs NPort boarder war anyone
Syo 9-8 does it get better maybe PW over LV by one both teams under 10.
and a nice upstate battle with Victor Corning
Another close game Victor said... first one to 10 win by 2 [/quote]

And I know it's the HS blog but Hofstra still undefeated and teams shouldn't take St. John's for granted...

Next weeks big games
Marcellus with 4 big back to back games. Keep an eye on these...
Baldwinsville, west genee cazinovia the Fayetteville manliest. Why back to back to back to back.

Mon
Somers Yorktown ???

Tue
Victor Canadaiguia. Look at the victor schedule only 3 games stand out

Why are the dealers playing Carey?? Couldn't get a better non conference game ( sorry Carey now go play play your them to a 2-3 goal game even beat them)

Manhasset St Anthonys not sure a Manhasset loss means much. Is every St Anthony's game a must win for the Friars?

West Islip Northport

Syossett vs Cold Spring Harbor

Weds
ESM Rocky Point (can't root for ESM ever even if I think they will win more than not they will lose)

Suffern vs Lakeland Panas (why oh why are these schools combined, then to hear LP petitioned to stay in A so they don't play Westchester B schools). Something doesn't smell kosher.

Thurs
Quote vs Nport could make Quot relevant or irrelevant
Manhasset vs Jay
Underwhelmed by Whitman and West
Skinny atlas vs Lafayette

Fri
CBA Cuse vs JDewitt (MDG)
South Side vs CSH ( did South Side get lucky on their win or are they for real).

Seems like April fools day for Ct on New England
Darien Yorktown
Bcliff ridgefield
Green which St Anthony's
Lincoln Sunbury vs Manhasset
Staples Bronxville
Close enough to Ct
Mahopac vs Northport
Mamaroneck vs sachem north

Upstate Pen field West Gen

Jericho vs friends. Can't get New [lacrosse] State of Mind Nassau version out of my head...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard WM put a nice beat down on SA yesterday in scrimmage. Any truth to this?

Is 7-4 a beat down?

Yes

I was not there and possibly WM completely dominated and maybe there are other factors that played a role. Yet in my book a 3 goal game seems to be a game that could have gone either way. Just my opinion. So many factors that play into the end score of a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a bad weekend
Sat
Dalers vs Wi both have lots to prove great game to do it in.
Wi 8-6. Both teams under 10.
HHE v Riverhead
HHE 12-8 thought it would have been closer misinformed about a transfer in Riverhead
Wantaugh v Mamaroneck (always a good close game past few years)
Mamo 12-11
Chaminade in MD Mcd
McDaniel 12-6 ouch!
Where is the Mt Siani Pelham game (Mt Siani beats Whitman in a low scoring contest, Pelham has some talent)
Did this game go off in Mass?
Smith West vs Garden City either team will be 0-2 coming out of this, what happens if they are tied. history tells us that isnt a far fetch idea with these two. Hadn't heard much about this 1. Is about all I can say.
Syo vs NPort boarder war anyone
Syo 9-8 does it get better maybe PW over LV by one both teams under 10.
and a nice upstate battle with Victor Corning
Another close game Victor said... first one to 10 win by 2

And I know it's the HS blog but Hofstra still undefeated and teams shouldn't take St. John's for granted...

Next weeks big games
Marcellus with 4 big back to back games. Keep an eye on these...
Baldwinsville, west genee cazinovia the Fayetteville manliest. Why back to back to back to back.

Mon
Somers Yorktown ???

Tue
Victor Canadaiguia. Look at the victor schedule only 3 games stand out

Why are the dealers playing Carey?? Couldn't get a better non conference game ( sorry Carey now go play play your them to a 2-3 goal game even beat them)

Manhasset St Anthonys not sure a Manhasset loss means much. Is every St Anthony's game a must win for the Friars?

West Islip Northport

Syossett vs Cold Spring Harbor

Weds
ESM Rocky Point (can't root for ESM ever even if I think they will win more than not they will lose)

Suffern vs Lakeland Panas (why oh why are these schools combined, then to hear LP petitioned to stay in A so they don't play Westchester B schools). Something doesn't smell kosher.

Thurs
Quote vs Nport could make Quot relevant or irrelevant
Manhasset vs Jay
Underwhelmed by Whitman and West
Skinny atlas vs Lafayette

Fri
CBA Cuse vs JDewitt (MDG)
South Side vs CSH ( did South Side get lucky on their win or are they for real).

Seems like April fools day for Ct on New England
Darien Yorktown
Bcliff ridgefield
Green which St Anthony's
Lincoln Sunbury vs Manhasset
Staples Bronxville
Close enough to Ct
Mahopac vs Northport
Mamaroneck vs sachem north

Upstate Pen field West Gen

Jericho vs friends. Can't get New [lacrosse] State of Mind Nassau version out of my head...
[/quote]

This is a great post. You need to register and message me. Keep up the great post and maybe we can continue to keep the conversation about lacrosse.

Hey deuchebag....You call 6 to 6 at half in the PW vs South Side game with a 14 to 8 final a blowout ? Also, Nostradamus did you see the score from yesterday 8 to 7 PW over Locust Valley and both goalies were lights out. Keep your predictions to yourself or go back to mommy and see if its ok for you to come out and play.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a bad weekend
Sat
Dalers vs Wi both have lots to prove great game to do it in.
Wi 8-6. Both teams under 10.
HHE v Riverhead
HHE 12-8 thought it would have been closer misinformed about a transfer in Riverhead
Wantaugh v Mamaroneck (always a good close game past few years)
Mamo 12-11
Chaminade in MD Mcd
McDaniel 12-6 ouch!
Where is the Mt Siani Pelham game (Mt Siani beats Whitman in a low scoring contest, Pelham has some talent)
Did this game go off in Mass?
Smith West vs Garden City either team will be 0-2 coming out of this, what happens if they are tied. history tells us that isnt a far fetch idea with these two. Hadn't heard much about this 1. Is about all I can say.
Syo vs NPort boarder war anyone
Syo 9-8 does it get better maybe PW over LV by one both teams under 10.
and a nice upstate battle with Victor Corning
Another close game Victor said... first one to 10 win by 2

And I know it's the HS blog but Hofstra still undefeated and teams shouldn't take St. John's for granted...

Next weeks big games
Marcellus with 4 big back to back games. Keep an eye on these...
Baldwinsville, west genee cazinovia the Fayetteville manliest. Why back to back to back to back.

Mon
Somers Yorktown ???

Tue
Victor Canadaiguia. Look at the victor schedule only 3 games stand out

Why are the dealers playing Carey?? Couldn't get a better non conference game ( sorry Carey now go play play your them to a 2-3 goal game even beat them)

Manhasset St Anthonys not sure a Manhasset loss means much. Is every St Anthony's game a must win for the Friars?

West Islip Northport

Syossett vs Cold Spring Harbor

Weds
ESM Rocky Point (can't root for ESM ever even if I think they will win more than not they will lose)

Suffern vs Lakeland Panas (why oh why are these schools combined, then to hear LP petitioned to stay in A so they don't play Westchester B schools). Something doesn't smell kosher.

Thurs
Quote vs Nport could make Quot relevant or irrelevant
Manhasset vs Jay
Underwhelmed by Whitman and West
Skinny atlas vs Lafayette

Fri
CBA Cuse vs JDewitt (MDG)
South Side vs CSH ( did South Side get lucky on their win or are they for real).

Seems like April fools day for Ct on New England
Darien Yorktown
Bcliff ridgefield
Green which St Anthony's
Lincoln Sunbury vs Manhasset
Staples Bronxville
Close enough to Ct
Mahopac vs Northport
Mamaroneck vs sachem north

Upstate Pen field West Gen

Jericho vs friends. Can't get New [lacrosse] State of Mind Nassau version out of my head...

This is a great post. You need to register and message me. Keep up the great post and maybe we can continue to keep the conversation about lacrosse. [/quote]

I believe Garden City beat Smithtown West 6-1

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard WM put a nice beat down on SA yesterday in scrimmage. Any truth to this?

Is 7-4 a beat down?

Yes

I was not there and possibly WM completely dominated and maybe there are other factors that played a role. Yet in my book a 3 goal game seems to be a game that could have gone either way. Just my opinion. So many factors that play into the end score of a game.

Ward Melville Vs St. Anthony's was a scrimmage. Although there were officials it was in fact a scrimmage and not a game. Melville jumped out early and at the end of the first half the score was WM 6 - SA 1. It looked like starters played majority of first half. Subbing was more liberal in the second half and It looked like the majority of boys on both teams were able to get some playing time.

Both teams will be tough this season. St. A's looked a little sloppy early, especially in transition. Ward Melville looked very athletic, especially on the defensive end and in transition. Melville Goalie did well but was not tested. St A's Goalie would probably like to see one or two of the shots again. No dominant player on either team yesterday most likely because all of the players on both teams are very good.

Melville certainly got the better of them especially in the first half. All you can really take away from that is that Ward Melville must be pretty good. Wow, what a surprise. If anyone sleeps on St Anthony's they will be in trouble, there is a lot of talent on that team.

Also Pequa over ST Thomas 13 t 10, fun game to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also Pequa over ST Thomas 13 t 10, fun game to watch

Was the Florida team very good? 13-10 loss is not that bad. I believe they were undefeated coming up here. Some people were surprised to see they had so many wins under their belt coming up here. FYI Florida starts their season earlier than us. Their 1st practice is January 30th. Their playoffs start April 3rd.

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

do not try to compare a team almost done with their season with a team playng game 1 of the season. cant.

a mid teir LI school in the middle so f their season beats them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

I think the better Florida teams are very athletic but lack a lot of skilled players. They will always have a few skilled athletic players but then there is a drop off. Didn't see this team but they are the reigning Florida State Champs from last year. They were 12-0 coming in to Massapeaqua game but are now 12-1.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

I think the better Florida teams are very athletic but lack a lot of skilled players. They will always have a few skilled athletic players but then there is a drop off. Didn't see this team but they are the reigning Florida State Champs from last year. They were 12-0 coming in to Massapeaqua game but are now 12-1.

I think you should watch them play before you judge and by judging skills how much do you really know about the game. The coach of St Thomas is a LI guy so I don't think he would match up his team with a powerhouse like Pequa if his team stunk. Florida has some real talent coupled with some real athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

I think the better Florida teams are very athletic but lack a lot of skilled players. They will always have a few skilled athletic players but then there is a drop off. Didn't see this team but they are the reigning Florida State Champs from last year. They were 12-0 coming in to Massapeaqua game but are now 12-1.

I think you should watch them play before you judge and by judging skills how much do you really know about the game. The coach of St Thomas is a LI guy so I don't think he would match up his team with a powerhouse like Pequa if his team stunk. Florida has some real talent coupled with some real athletes.

Didn't say anything bad. Florida is developing into a strong state. One of the up and coming areas. They do not have a lot of horses compared to Long island teams. Have seen enough of the Florida teams to have some idea of how they stack up. Just never have seen this team. I think you just quoted my post. As I said have some very athletic kids and some overall skilled players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

I think the better Florida teams are very athletic but lack a lot of skilled players. They will always have a few skilled athletic players but then there is a drop off. Didn't see this team but they are the reigning Florida State Champs from last year. They were 12-0 coming in to Massapeaqua game but are now 12-1.

I think you should watch them play before you judge and by judging skills how much do you really know about the game. The coach of St Thomas is a LI guy so I don't think he would match up his team with a powerhouse like Pequa if his team stunk. Florida has some real talent coupled with some real athletes.

I didn't known that Pequa was a powerhouse....

Massapequa may not be a powerhouse but I think someone wants everyone to believe port Washington is
Beware victor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They had some players, would've middle of pack here.

I think the better Florida teams are very athletic but lack a lot of skilled players. They will always have a few skilled athletic players but then there is a drop off. Didn't see this team but they are the reigning Florida State Champs from last year. They were 12-0 coming in to Massapeaqua game but are now 12-1.

I think you should watch them play before you judge and by judging skills how much do you really know about the game. The coach of St Thomas is a LI guy so I don't think he would match up his team with a powerhouse like Pequa if his team stunk. Florida has some real talent coupled with some real athletes.

I was at game and the first poster summed up exactly what the Florida team was. It was a good game but would have been different if it was Massapequas 13th game of the season. It was a great opportunity for both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa may not be a powerhouse but I think someone wants everyone to believe port Washington is
Beware victor

Beware Victor? Huh, unlike Lakeland Panas didn't Victor drop to B... Not in A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa may not be a powerhouse but I think someone wants everyone to believe port Washington is
Beware victor

I think the poster is saying that the PW goalie is very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the Port Washington folks? I thought PW Poster was saying how much noise they were gonna make this year... PW got blown out by South Side on Tuesday. What happened? The LV game should go fast tomorrow, it S/B running time by the 2nd quarter.

Should be a battle of two of the island (and nation's) top young (sophomore) goalies.

Nice try Goalie dad. The goalies won't be top in anywhere with those defenses.

Sorry not a goalie's dad. Li has some of the top goalie prospects.These two happen to be playing each other. If as your post put it if they have weak defenses Infront of them then they are (or will be) that much better for it.

How do you justify tops in the nation and island? Based on what?

Sorry if you want to argue, but LI has some great young talented goalies. These are two of them if you didn't know that then anything I will say doesn't matter.

Now that the season is young they all start with a fresh slate and time as it usually does will tell. I was just pointing out this was a good goalie match up with some young Sophomore talent.

As I often earmark certain games and scores. Take it if you like as opinion because any facts I state would surely be spun or used to demean another.

I will say if you have a young goalie 4th/5th/6th grade and love the position the are 2 of the goalies to watch (among others).

Ok so you went from "tops in the nation" to "young talented goalies". That makes a lot more sense then anointing them tops in the nation when they have just started their varsity career.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa may not be a powerhouse but I think someone wants everyone to believe port Washington is
Beware victor

Pffffftt - PW should have lost that game . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

Not a Goalies Dad but know both boys well and they do play on 2 of the best 2019 Summer teams in the country and that is a fact. So it's not a stretch to say they are amongst the top goalies for their age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

Not a Goalies Dad but know both boys well and they do play on 2 of the best 2019 Summer teams in the country and that is a fact. So it's not a stretch to say they are amongst the top goalies for their age.

But are you a dad with a son on one of those "best 2019 Summer teams in the country"? Because that would put your statement into perspective. If not then it's a valid comment.

Massapequa vs. Kellenberg tomorrow. Curious to see if Kellenberg has improved as a program.

So PW can't be scored on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa vs. Kellenberg tomorrow. Curious to see if Kellenberg has improved as a program.

Commack blew out Kellenberg. They play Smithtown East tomorrow, that's the game to watch.

Cold Spring Harbor vs Syosset Tuesday

Syosett will give them a beat down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

One couldn't even start last year give me a break

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

Not a Goalies Dad but know both boys well and they do play on 2 of the best 2019 Summer teams in the country and that is a fact. So it's not a stretch to say they are amongst the top goalies for their age.

But are you a dad with a son on one of those "best 2019 Summer teams in the country"? Because that would put your statement into perspective. If not then it's a valid comment.

For the record can you name the top 5 summer teams in class of 2019. Regardless if I'm a parent of a a son on one of those teams it's hard to dispute the level of achievement both teams at that age have accomplished in the past 3 years. Between head to head battles with the top 10 or so organizations in the nation and the D1 commitments both teams have it would be difficult to refute their status as 2 of the elite teams throughout the summer circuit.2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The young goalies made a game of it. 30 saves between the two of those two young goalies. Any negativity towards these two was uncalled for and foolish. Look forward to following both them this year.

Didn't see any negativity, only questioning of the statement that they are two of the best in the country.

Not a Goalies Dad but know both boys well and they do play on 2 of the best 2019 Summer teams in the country and that is a fact. So it's not a stretch to say they are amongst the top goalies for their age.

But are you a dad with a son on one of those "best 2019 Summer teams in the country"? Because that would put your statement into perspective. If not then it's a valid comment.

For the record can you name the top 5 summer teams in class of 2019. Regardless if I'm a parent of a a son on one of those teams it's hard to dispute the level of achievement both teams at that age have accomplished in the past 3 years. Between head to head battles with the top 10 or so organizations in the nation and the D1 commitments both teams have it would be difficult to refute their status as 2 of the elite teams throughout the summer circuit.2

If you have a connection with these boys you cannot be objective in your opinion. Being great when everyone around you is also very talented is not a very good barometer regarding your talent level. Being great when the talent around you is mediocre is the sign of a truly talented player. Think Farmingdale kid up in Delaware, playing on an unranked team hand he has become displayed dominance as a freshman. The talent around him while very good, is inferior to the other D-1 programs, therefore he is "great".

"Syosett will give them a beat down."

Hopefully the boys play out of their shorts and restore some pride in the town with a big win over the little next door neighbor that has dominated the braves in the W/L column for decades. That is why they play the games. Curious how St. A's Manhasset plays out as well. Should be a great game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Syosett will give them a beat down."

Hopefully the boys play out of their shorts and restore some pride in the town with a big win over the little next door neighbor that has dominated the braves in the W/L column for decades. That is why they play the games. Curious how St. A's Manhasset plays out as well. Should be a great game.

St A's have a good fogo?

Worst thing a talented goalie can do is play for a "great" travel team, they generally have a dominate fogo, great possession offense and great defenders. kid will not see the rubber that he needs to see to improve. I have seen this over and over again and year after year. That is why, as the poster above stated, DeLuca (Farmingdale 2016/ Delaware 2020) is a great goalie, he is consistently better then those around him and he makes the team good, not the other way around IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Syosett will give them a beat down."

Hopefully the boys play out of their shorts and restore some pride in the town with a big win over the little next door neighbor that has dominated the braves in the W/L column for decades. That is why they play the games. Curious how St. A's Manhasset plays out as well. Should be a great game.

I cant imagine this is a Syosset parent writing this garbage(at least I would Hope not). CSH has a very good and talented team that has been the top in the state for the last couple years. The games every year are close and well played. I believe the last couple games were decided by a goal. Looking forward to a good game against Two good teams. No one expects a "Beat Down", other than the poster who is trying to stir up the board. Good luck to all involved tonight!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Syosett will give them a beat down."

Hopefully the boys play out of their shorts and restore some pride in the town with a big win over the little next door neighbor that has dominated the braves in the W/L column for decades. That is why they play the games. Curious how St. A's Manhasset plays out as well. Should be a great game.

I cant imagine this is a Syosset parent writing this garbage(at least I would Hope not). CSH has a very good and talented team that has been the top in the state for the last couple years. The games every year are close and well played. I believe the last couple games were decided by a goal. Looking forward to a good game against Two good teams. No one expects a "Beat Down", other than the poster who is trying to stir up the board. Good luck to all involved tonight!

Methinks the "playing out of their shorts" part is a play on words.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

Yes, if you score more goals you will win.

thougths on West Islip vs. NPort

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosett will give them a beat down.

CSH, SYO is a strange beast

LOL. "Play out of their shorts"

Good, lite humor.

Should be a competitive game again this year as it is each year.

Hopefully the rain lets up.

Did your mom write this for you ?

???? Angry man above... Life is tough I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did your mom write this for you ?

As Sgt Hulka said to the lads "Lighten up Francis"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thougths on West Islip vs. NPort

It's gonna rain ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thougths on West Islip vs. NPort

It's gonna rain ...

Yes, NP gonna rain goals on WI.... Prediction: NP11 - WI 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

It's called missing the net when you are an attack parent. A goalie parent sees it as excellent positioning.

Ward Melville absolutely murdering Huntington 11-1 in the early fourth. Looks like they may live up to the hype this year and redeem themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville absolutely murdering Huntington 11-1 in the early fourth. Looks like they may live up to the hype this year and redeem themselves.

Redeem themselves for what? What an idiot. Yeah a bunch of HS boys need to redeem themselves. Get a life loser.

Massapequa over Kellenberg 6-5. Kellenberg was good, excellent defense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville absolutely murdering Huntington 11-1 in the early fourth. Looks like they may live up to the hype this year and redeem themselves.

Redeem themselves for what? What an idiot. Yeah a bunch of HS boys need to redeem themselves. Get a life loser.

Says the man who freaks out over a simple statement relating to the boys literally having a chance to redeem last years state final. Take a chill pill buddy

St. A's 14 - Manhasset 12

Commack just beat Smithtown East. 9 to 8.

Different story for East when the FO is neutralized. Commack was bad match for SE.

CSH defeats Syosset 16-12.

How did the Penn St lefty do?

Hahahahaha nope

Northport reigned goals alright, buy west islip reigned more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport reigned goals alright, buy west islip reigned more.

9-4 West Islip over Northport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the Penn St lefty do?

Couple goals and assist

Penn state lefty , give it a break already.

Hey Syosset...wassssup?

That's what is wrong with lax today. Players and parents don't care about team they are only concerned with themselves.

Team lost but my kid scored 2 goals and an assist. He was great rest of team was horrible.

That's not all that is wrong with lacrosse.
Have to hold head coaches accountable all they care about is their legacy instead of trying to mole young players into team players.

Great parody, good for the game.

HAH!

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Syosset...wassssup?

Nothing what's up with you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

And lost to John Glenn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

And lost to John Glenn

Score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's what is wrong with lax today. Players and parents don't care about team they are only concerned with themselves.

Team lost but my kid scored 2 goals and an assist. He was great rest of team was horrible.

what is wrong with lacrosse today is non sequitur posts on BOTC - please explain what your point is in reference to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Score?

13-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Score?

13-8

Wouldn't call that destroyed, Commack gave up 8 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

It's called missing the net when you are an attack parent. A goalie parent sees it as excellent positioning.

LMAO

It is early in the season, resurrecting an oldie but goodie...

A 5 goal difference is a good win but not a blow out. (6 or more can be classified a blow out whether a second half blow out or outright blow out)
A 3 goal game is generally a great game. Just want to be on the winning side of those.
12-9 games are generally great offensive games,
6-5 games can be great defensive games but can all to often be bad offensive games.
An offense that can score 10 is good (love the saying first one to 10 wins)
offensive player that can provide 3 points a game is real good
A defense that can hold a team below 10 is good
defensive player that can hoover up 3 Gb and 2 CTO is real good
A goalie that saves >11 is real good
a goalie and def that saves < 40% needs work
F/O 70% is real good, 50% avg, any less needs work
Many times Intangibles win games

Good post, not sure I agree with the goalie save percentage, otherwise think you are spot on. (No, not a goalie dad)

original poster here-
they are young squad with several sophs being the team's strength.

only going to get better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

It's called missing the net when you are an attack parent. A goalie parent sees it as excellent positioning.

LMAO

Id agree and add, a good goalie makes you try and pick the corners which often, makes those shots go (in my best Bob Uecker voice) "just a bit outside". But id still rather have a shot go outside and be backed up than in the goalies stick for a TO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Score?

13-8

Wouldn't call that destroyed, Commack gave up 8 goals.

Ok, let's call it a beat down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kellenberg is gonna be good.

stout defense led by Duke bound kid

and a couple of big middies that can run

same kids made their football team better too.

They were destroyed by Commack

Score?

13-8

Wouldn't call that destroyed, Commack gave up 8 goals.

Ok, let's call it a beat down

Let's call it a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So PW can't be scored on?

LV should have won that game by about 5 Gs - they had over a dozen looks where they had the D and G beat, and shot wide or high all day (and that was despite certain LV players not moving the ball when they should have! They will need to become less selfish in order to win games they are capable of winning against better competition)! That said, the PW G was very good, and if LV had hit the net, those goals nor the game would have been on him.

It's called missing the net when you are an attack parent. A goalie parent sees it as excellent positioning.

LMAO

Id agree and add, a good goalie makes you try and pick the corners which often, makes those shots go (in my best Bob Uecker voice) "just a bit outside". But id still rather have a shot go outside and be backed up than in the goalies stick for a TO.

gotta be in the net to score. No need to play catch with the goalie, but you have to hit the damn net.

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

No it's him, he was short one credit, so he plays for both.

lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

Gotta be some sort of screw up..... Also shows their record as 3-0. They've only played 2 games so far

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

Gotta be some sort of screw up..... Also shows their record as 3-0. They've only played 2 games so far

It's the reporters. Newsday and News 12 Varsity (owned by same company) both have a lot of names screwed up, misspelled, incomplete rosters, etc for many schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

Gotta be some sort of screw up..... Also shows their record as 3-0. They've only played 2 games so far

It's the reporters. Newsday and News 12 Varsity (owned by same company) both have a lot of names screwed up, misspelled, incomplete rosters, etc for many schools.

They have the years mixed together, last year and this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

Gotta be some sort of screw up..... Also shows their record as 3-0. They've only played 2 games so far

It's the reporters. Newsday and News 12 Varsity (owned by same company) both have a lot of names screwed up, misspelled, incomplete rosters, etc for many schools.

They have the years mixed together, last year and this year.

The third win was against the team from Florida .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you look at pequa box scores they have The Hofstra coach's son listed. Is that a mistake or another person with the same name?

Gotta be some sort of screw up..... Also shows their record as 3-0. They've only played 2 games so far

It's the reporters. Newsday and News 12 Varsity (owned by same company) both have a lot of names screwed up, misspelled, incomplete rosters, etc for many schools.

The reporters are the coaches. The sites post what is given to them by the coaches. For game stats, the winning coach reports and I'm sure he could care less on the spelling of opponent names.

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Lambert has zero class and is a terrible coach... The SE Team has a lot of talented players with horrendous coaching.... Can't wait for the eventual beat down from WM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Pretty pathetic if the SE Coach needs to humiliate Middle Country just to try to have his team get their MoJo back after opening day loss.... That's pathetic, shame on you Coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

After the first half really? Our team will take starters out after the first half of the first quarter if it looks like a blow out.
That's poor he could have won game with 4th string

Maybe they can win the second tier catholic school title. lose just enough games finish around 500 and play the other weak catholic schools and say you won a title. Pathetic..Defense gave up a ton of goals. Sometimes teams and players get overrated. You still need speed at all positions in this sport.

Remember it is not about the players it is about coaches legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Agreed - what he should have said is not all games should be scheduled, we need to go to power conferences and less league games and more non league games so the kids can be challenged on a regular basis.

My kid his a main player, so harder games would great, but then a lot of kids would not get in games, not fun for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

No, don't you worry. My son has earned his accolades and is a leader not defined by pricks like you. Go on and keep touting how great you are Daddy...oops I meant your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Agreed - what he should have said is not all games should be scheduled, we need to go to power conferences and less league games and more non league games so the kids can be challenged on a regular basis.

The games are the games, many years ago Elmont and Sewanhaka were Nassau County powerhouses. This decades powerhouse may be next decades dog. With good coaching the lacrosse can get better and competitive. Create a "Power Conference" and you never improve the other schools. Be patient, your time may come. And the other poster is very obnoxious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Agreed - what he should have said is not all games should be scheduled, we need to go to power conferences and less league games and more non league games so the kids can be challenged on a regular basis.

Yes, exactly. Totally agree with the above.

Could Scarsdale vs Mahopac be a good one to keep an eye.

CBA v JDWitt today always a great game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

This is a coaching issue, full stop. The coach is terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid his a main player, so harder games would great, but then a lot of kids would not get in games, not fun for them.

do you really think a single kid had fun in a 23 -1 game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Agreed - what he should have said is not all games should be scheduled, we need to go to power conferences and less league games and more non league games so the kids can be challenged on a regular basis.

The games are the games, many years ago Elmont and Sewanhaka were Nassau County powerhouses. This decades powerhouse may be next decades dog. With good coaching the lacrosse can get better and competitive. Create a "Power Conference" and you never improve the other schools. Be patient, your time may come. And the other poster is very obnoxious.

Power conferences would change year to year - and it would be good for the weaker/newer schools to play more balanced games as well it is by no means just for the better schools, maybe it should be called "Balanced Conferences" rather than "Power Conferences" to eliminate confusion...IMHO

Here is my proposal for Nassau County power conferences - each teams coach/athletic director would request the conference they wish to play in from 1-5, You now have a competition committee made up of coaches and AD's take into account all the requests as well as nowing the teams abilities and returning players. You now make 5 balanced conferences with 10-11 teams in each (52 teams in Nassau) and re-do this every year. I am pretty sure this is how they do it on the girls side.

Now each team would have 9 - 10 competitive league games and 5-6 opportunities to play non league Suffolk or Out of state games.

All teams return to their conference for playoffs

- Personally I would invite Kellenberg, Chaminade, St Mary's, Lutheran, Holy Trinity and St Dominic's to join if they wish but they would not be eligible for post season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

This is a coaching issue, full stop. The coach is terrible.

The coach is an awesome guy. Knowledgeable, responsible, communicative, likable, and gets along well with players and parents alike. And, he's a great teacher for the District. This game was over 5 min into the first quarter. Everyone played and everyone got a chance to feel apart of a program at this game. Everyone has taken a beating at some time or another. That's sports. The ball was held for over 20 min with no shooting. But, what's more embarrassing playing chase while kids throw the ball around playing keep away or getting scored on. Both suck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

This is a coaching issue, full stop. The coach is terrible.

The coach is an awesome guy. Knowledgeable, responsible, communicative, likable, and gets along well with players and parents alike. And, he's a great teacher for the District. This game was over 5 min into the first quarter. Everyone played and everyone got a chance to feel apart of a program at this game. Everyone has taken a beating at some time or another. That's sports. The ball was held for over 20 min with no shooting. But, what's more embarrassing playing chase while kids throw the ball around playing keep away or getting scored on. Both suck.

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid his a main player, so harder games would great, but then a lot of kids would not get in games, not fun for them.

Your English is for sh*t, jeez dude, learn to write.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] Smithtown East over Middle Country today 23-1. Really? Looks like certain players needed to make up some points after a weak start against Commack. Can you say overrated?

Starters were taken out after the first half, and positions were switched. Even with that, it was keep away for the whole 3rd. Don't blame the coach! Not all schools should have a lacrosse program.

Wow! "Not all schools should have a lacrosse program." How obnoxious are you? You are exactly what is wrong with the sport of lacrosse. So you are saying if you happened to purchase a home in a weak lacrosse school district because you didn't know your child would play lacrosse when they were a baby, they shouldn't have the opportunity to play with their hometown friends because they are not a powerhouse district?? You sir are an [lacrosse].

Don't worry, your kid will get a participation trophy

This is a coaching issue, full stop. The coach is terrible.

The coach is an awesome guy. Knowledgeable, responsible, communicative, likable, and gets along well with players and parents alike. And, he's a great teacher for the District. This game was over 5 min into the first quarter. Everyone played and everyone got a chance to feel apart of a program at this game. Everyone has taken a beating at some time or another. That's sports. The ball was held for over 20 min with no shooting. But, what's more embarrassing playing chase while kids throw the ball around playing keep away or getting scored on. Both suck.

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
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You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

I have been saying there should be that type of set up of conferences for years. The primary purpose of high school sports is to allow for competition. Blow outs on either side are no fun. Can never understand why this is not done. I can't see anyone complaining so long as everyone goes back to their respective conferences for playoffs. This would allow for all teams to be competitive and still compete for state championships.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you read A hole

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have been saying there should be that type of set up of conferences for years. The primary purpose of high school sports is to allow for competition. Blow outs on either side are no fun. Can never understand why this is not done. I can't see anyone complaining so long as everyone goes back to their respective conferences for playoffs. This would allow for all teams to be competitive and still compete for state championships.

You should then know that there are NYS, section 11, section 8 guidelines that need to be followed. As you said its JUST high school sports. Do you really think the AD's from all these schools want to be bogged down with rescheduling, power teams etc every year for lax. They have all the other sports to schedule etc. Get out of the Lax bubble. Schedule some good non league games and move on.

To all parents and players on this site. Please remember how lucky we all are to be part of this amazing game. Long Island lacrosse lost one of its own young high school players. In the end it is a game and we are all lucky to have the opportunity to play it and be part of the Long Island lacrosse community. Most of these boys know each other and grew up with one another. Our prayers are with this young man's family and friends.

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

Stat padding at its best.give me a break.

Originally Posted by America's Game

To all parents and players on this site. Please remember how lucky we all are to be part of this amazing game. Long Island lacrosse lost one of its own young high school players. In the end it is a game and we are all lucky to have the opportunity to play it and be part of the Long Island lacrosse community. Most of these boys know each other and grew up with one another. Our prayers are with this young man's family and friends.

So Sad, Thought and prayers for the family

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

I agree, no one player should be scoring that many goals in a blowout. It's embarrassing and downright selfish. It's so obvious these kids are padding stats so they can win whatever award it is that will make dad happy. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

I agree, no one player should be scoring that many goals in a blowout. It's embarrassing and downright selfish. It's so obvious these kids are padding stats so they can win whatever award it is that will make dad happy. Pathetic.

Also, just looked at the blowouts, some of them like NS & WH no one player scored more than 3 goals. SE & HF have the 1 a*hole who has to score 7 or 8 goals. Those are the dads with the small pee pees ;o

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
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You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

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What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

So HHW starts 0-2 after dropping down to Class B this year? Interesting. I wonder if they will miss the playoffs again this year. That will help the Coach get his summer camp up and running quicker.

I blame the SE Head Coach. Scared of the Father, and he had to make up for the zero goals vs Commack.

Americas game let a few more kids get bashed. What is it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
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You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

SE will be fine, maybe WM should start worrying about Commack! And what's this nonsense about fogos? Coaches play their best players to win games if you didn't know. Plenty committed kids remain on the 2nd and third string throughout HS barely seeing the field. This is most apparent in the goalie and face off position where there is only one player. The others can show their skills in the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

SE will be fine, maybe WM should start worrying about Commack! And what's this nonsense about fogos? Coaches play their best players to win games if you didn't know. Plenty committed kids remain on the 2nd and third string throughout HS barely seeing the field. This is most apparent in the goalie and face off position where there is only one player. The others can show their skills in the summer.

I think Ward Melville worries about every team they play, that is one of the reasons they always do well. All go, very little show at WM year in and year out. Maybe this is the year but I wouldn't bet on Commack. Was Melville even ranked in the National Pre Season polls?

Who passed away?
There isn't anything in my local paper.ysz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

agree, games like this should not be scheduled.but when played should be played to honor the game.m.c. called the t.o. and pulled their starters first. s.e. scored 2 more than went to the bench and played keep away. also someone said that kind of game is no fun for anyone,wrong! tell that to the s.e. bench cheering every play like it was a championship game. you guys beat a team that has to start 4 under classmen and plays 4 more. you put up 23 against m.c, good luck at states

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

SE will be fine, maybe WM should start worrying about Commack! And what's this nonsense about fogos? Coaches play their best players to win games if you didn't know. Plenty committed kids remain on the 2nd and third string throughout HS barely seeing the field. This is most apparent in the goalie and face off position where there is only one player. The others can show their skills in the summer.

No coach worth his weight leaves a starter in with a commanding 10 goal lead (let alone larger). Unless the back up is hurt or did something egregious. Starters start the game hence the phrase. Back up comes in maybe second half if you split or minutes in 4th if lead is insurmountable (save a fogo - they can be sprinkled in a game). Unless you think the back up can give a run for the starting job.

This is the tricky part this can back fire, listen to the team not the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who passed away?
There isn't anything in my local paper.ysz

A player from Plainview.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right.... Just like last year when the AA Fogo took 98% of the face offs all year long. Real smart.....
[/

You're right...I would never have my AA Fogo play that much...you might win too many face offs!!! Brilliant coaching strategy.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What about in the blow out games? Let your AA FoGo continue to take virtually every face off? How about getting some of the talented undeclassman FoGos some live HS game experience? Wouldn't a smart coach do that to prepare for the following season?

No way SE gets past WM this year. SE dropped out of the national rankings. I guess preseason rankings really are pretty meaningless.

SE will be fine, maybe WM should start worrying about Commack! And what's this nonsense about fogos? Coaches play their best players to win games if you didn't know. Plenty committed kids remain on the 2nd and third string throughout HS barely seeing the field. This is most apparent in the goalie and face off position where there is only one player. The others can show their skills in the summer.

No coach worth his weight leaves a starter in with a commanding 10 goal lead (let alone larger). Unless the back up is hurt or did something egregious. Starters start the game hence the phrase. Back up comes in maybe second half if you split or minutes in 4th if lead is insurmountable (save a fogo - they can be sprinkled in a game). Unless you think the back up can give a run for the starting job.

This is the tricky part this can back fire, listen to the team not the parents.

What people are missing here is the coach is not running the team...

Has anyone noticed that the Newsday stats are almost always wrong. How do these things get reported? I heard winning team coach reports. Are coaches (perhaps including my own son's) intentionally under/over reporting or mid-reporting stats? Does Newsday just put no effort in? I can see why Newsday doesn't really care about getting it correct, but shouldn't there be some integrity? This can effect recruiting, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone noticed that the Newsday stats are almost always wrong. How do these things get reported? I heard winning team coach reports. Are coaches (perhaps including my own son's) intentionally under/over reporting or mid-reporting stats? Does Newsday just put no effort in? I can see why Newsday doesn't really care about getting it correct, but shouldn't there be some integrity? This can effect recruiting, no?

They never get it right. Especially assists. Winning team calls in stats. So very subjective. Coaches book is most accurate. Should not affect any recruitment or awards. All based on coaches stats not Newsday.

Agree. Same problem on girls side. Very annoying

Does the name Keenan ring a bell?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

agree, games like this should not be scheduled.but when played should be played to honor the game.m.c. called the t.o. and pulled their starters first. s.e. scored 2 more than went to the bench and played keep away. also someone said that kind of game is no fun for anyone,wrong! tell that to the s.e. bench cheering every play like it was a championship game. you guys beat a team that has to start 4 under classmen and plays 4 more. you put up 23 against m.c, good luck at states

Actually it was the MC parents screaming. They even cheered when fogo was not moving on the ground with a possible conclusion. Give me a break! It was the third string kids scoring goals after the 1st quarter. Many of those kids will barely see the field the rest of the season. They deserve a chance to play ball too, not their fault the other team couldn't match up. This is not PAL, it's varsity sports.

Middle Country, How many HS did you merge to get a team? Try dropping down to play your HS enrollment and them come on here. Maybe nthen you can get a game. Should not even be Suffolk A in the first place blame your School board.

Should a starter stay in a game you are 10 over your opponent no. But I will say kids gotta get his minutes... Did he play second half... . Did he play second part of Second qtr... at what point does a starter come out. By half definitely. An 11 point game/day maybe some of the opposing team Players year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country, How many HS did you merge to get a team? Try dropping down to play your HS enrollment and them come on here. Maybe nthen you can get a game. Should not even be Suffolk A in the first place blame your School board.

Should a starter stay in a game you are 10 over your opponent no. But I will say kids gotta get his minutes... Did he play second half... . Did he play second part of Second qtr... at what point does a starter come out. By half definitely. An 11 point game/day maybe some of the opposing team Players year.

Middle Country is made up of two HS. Imagine if Smithtown or Sachem did that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Middle Country, How many HS did you merge to get a team? Try dropping down to play your HS enrollment and them come on here. Maybe nthen you can get a game. Should not even be Suffolk A in the first place blame your School board.

Should a starter stay in a game you are 10 over your opponent no. But I will say kids gotta get his minutes... Did he play second half... . Did he play second part of Second qtr... at what point does a starter come out. By half definitely. An 11 point game/day maybe some of the opposing team Players year.

Middle Country is made up of two HS. Imagine if Smithtown or Sachem did that

No need to do that. Just cherry pick the best kids and have them go to SE.

Wow! PW must be very good, they beat Freeport 18-1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

This has nothing to do with the SE HS Lacrosse Player, it is a coaching failure - 100%. Same coach had his AA FoGo take virtually every draw the past 2 years no matter the score of the game. Terrible. It really doesn't matter though as after this year SE Lacrosse will become irrelevant in Suffolk A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

Why is the blame on the player? He did what he is supposed to do. If you're on the field, you play the game 100%.
The blame and the shame should be on the coach who oversaw this and didn't adjust the lineup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

If you saw the game, you would know he also got a bunch of assists. So clearly he knows how to pass the ball. He is a senior having fun playing his last year of HS ball headed to a top lacrosse school. In college (and HS) the more points you get, the more recognition you get. Not all games will be like that, so you need to get the points when you can. Yes it's opportunistic, but so is life. I think you might be mad that he passed your son on the stat board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

Why is the blame on the player? He did what he is supposed to do. If you're on the field, you play the game 100%.
The blame and the shame should be on the coach who oversaw this and didn't adjust the lineup.

Yes the coaches are at fault for not pulling these players sooner, but there's a way to set up other kids, rather than shoot the ball everytime you have it. If my kids has 5,6,7,8+ goals in a game, I'm walking out with my head down. That's embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

Jealousy is a very unbecoming personal attribute!

WI played MC score was 15-5 could of been 30-1 but WI coach got everyone in and no one scored more that
3 points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Absolute disgrace that an Elite Player would score 8 goals in a 23-1 beat down of weaker team and the Coach would let him do that. They could have used two of those goals vs. Commack. On paper he is having a great year, but the reality is he couldn't score a goal against good team- not an Elite team (WM, SW, WI). I was always impressed with that Team, not anymore and I hope the better Teams give them a dose of their medicine.

You my friend are a total moron...not only is the kid an incredible
lacrosse player, he a great young man. Smart, hardworking, kind and will do great things in life following his outstanding college education. And, no, I am not his father. Just an avid follower of the game. Let's keep the jabs about kids to a minimum. they are sill HS kids...no one here getting paid to play the game. this young man deserves all the accolades he gets.

Sounds like the only accolades he deserves are biggest ball hog . If you don't see an issue with some ball hog player scoring 8 goals in a game that was obviously never going to be close than you are not only a moron but an a--hole . Tell the kid to pass the ball .

Jealousy is a very unbecoming personal attribute!

According to laxpower Smithtown east just got beat in overtime by John jay . Wow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to laxpower Smithtown east just got beat in overtime by John jay . Wow

Oops!!!!

How's that national preseason ranking working out now?

Will SE make the playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to laxpower Smithtown east just got beat in overtime by John jay . Wow

John Jay has a damn good program.

I don't know town statistics, but that is one [lacrosse] of a victory for a westchester team , smithtown is stacked with big time senior recruits. Great job to the John jay coaching staff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to laxpower Smithtown east just got beat in overtime by John jay . Wow

John Jay has a damn good program.

Was at the game. Biggest problem for Smithtown East is the coaching. Not having the best players on the field playing the key positions at the right time. Thought they looked a little more pulled together in the last couple years, despite the talent they still have. But, it was a great back and fourth game, and fun to watch. If East can figure some better strategies out they will do better moving forward.

Funny thing is that the John Jay head coach is a Yorktown guy.

WOW!! SWR Falls to East Islip?? Thought they were unbeatable! Looks like all the big boys are vulnerable this year. Love to see the parity, makes for an exciting season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW!! SWR Falls to East Islip?? Thought they were unbeatable! Looks like all the big boys are vulnerable this year. Love to see the parity, makes for an exciting season!

Don't believe the hype of the windbags...they come around every pre-season. Funny they never say much toward the end. Just like everything else, if you have to advertise and beat your chest, you must not be that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny thing is that the John Jay head coach is a Yorktown guy.

Why is that funny?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW!! SWR Falls to East Islip?? Thought they were unbeatable! Looks like all the big boys are vulnerable this year. Love to see the parity, makes for an exciting season!

Don't believe the hype of the windbags...they come around every pre-season. Funny they never say much toward the end. Just like everything else, if you have to advertise and beat your chest, you must not be that good.

Kind of like your freshman son who is overhyped and did nothing? Exposed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW!! SWR Falls to East Islip?? Thought they were unbeatable! Looks like all the big boys are vulnerable this year. Love to see the parity, makes for an exciting season!

That stpumper11@gmail.comr ESM game is looking good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny thing is that the John Jay head coach is a Yorktown guy.

Why is that funny?

Does that make him a Yorkie?

That's funny!

Good game on the ticket for today Chaminade v St Anthony's

Smithtown West vs Commack Should be a great game. Another game that could decide contender or pretender

Tomorrow has some good games.

LI
Miller Place @ Comsewogue
Islip @ Half Hollow Hills West
Mount Sinai @ Sayville
Eastport/South Manor @ Shoreham-Wading River
Long Beach @ Wantagh

UpState
Shaker @ Burnt Hills
Skaneateles @ ChristianBros-Syracuse
Palmyra-Macedon @ Penn Yan
Fairport @ Pittsford
Averill Park @ Shenendehowa
Penfield @ Victor
Canandaigua @ Webster Thomas

West
Iona Prep @ Bronxville
Rye HS @ Pelham Memorial
John Jay-Cross River @ Pleasantville

Suffolk needs to do a better job at scheduling.

I have seen Longwood and Brentwood getting better as the seasons go by but why subject them to the top tier schools. Listen I'm not an everyone gets trophies guy, but what is gained by some of these matchups. Look at Middle Country, teams are putting in the players on varsity that should be lighting it up on JV. Copaigue love they have a team but something has got to be done to make game competitive for all teams involved.

Take the last 4 teams in each division or conference play each other in their own league. If the coach preseason or whenever divisions are discussed thinks he has a contending team, then put them in the league they belong.

Take Connetquot, why is Connetquot playing Copaigue brentwood Londwood Flyod. maybe 2 of those not a 4. and why Copaigue and not Pat Med.

Does someone in Section IX look at each school schedule and say this is fair and conveys sportsmanship.

Is the microscope on East against Northport today. Not sure the game means as much to Northport or if it means more

Ballston Spa getting Niscky out of the way early could be a good move, not sure if this is or isnt good game to keep an eye on today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk needs to do a better job at scheduling.

I have seen Longwood and Brentwood getting better as the seasons go by but why subject them to the top tier schools. Listen I'm not an everyone gets trophies guy, but what is gained by some of these matchups. Look at Middle Country, teams are putting in the players on varsity that should be lighting it up on JV. Copaigue love they have a team but something has got to be done to make game competitive for all teams involved.

Take the last 4 teams in each division or conference play each other in their own league. If the coach preseason or whenever divisions are discussed thinks he has a contending team, then put them in the league they belong.

Take Connetquot, why is Connetquot playing Copaigue brentwood Londwood Flyod. maybe 2 of those not a 4. and why Copaigue and not Pat Med.

Does someone in Section IX look at each school schedule and say this is fair and conveys sportsmanship.

As someone pointed out earlier with respect to the MC game, there are multiple rules from NYS on down that need to be followed with regards to scheduling - that is a major effort that would have to start at the state level and then be worked out at the section levels thereafter. Bottom line is that it is not at Suffolk's (Section 11) discretion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk needs to do a better job at scheduling.

I have seen Longwood and Brentwood getting better as the seasons go by but why subject them to the top tier schools. Listen I'm not an everyone gets trophies guy, but what is gained by some of these matchups. Look at Middle Country, teams are putting in the players on varsity that should be lighting it up on JV. Copaigue love they have a team but something has got to be done to make game competitive for all teams involved.

Take the last 4 teams in each division or conference play each other in their own league. If the coach preseason or whenever divisions are discussed thinks he has a contending team, then put them in the league they belong.

Take Connetquot, why is Connetquot playing Copaigue brentwood Londwood Flyod. maybe 2 of those not a 4. and why Copaigue and not Pat Med.

Does someone in Section IX look at each school schedule and say this is fair and conveys sportsmanship.

Quot coach probably cried

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk needs to do a better job at scheduling.

I have seen Longwood and Brentwood getting better as the seasons go by but why subject them to the top tier schools. Listen I'm not an everyone gets trophies guy, but what is gained by some of these matchups. Look at Middle Country, teams are putting in the players on varsity that should be lighting it up on JV. Copaigue love they have a team but something has got to be done to make game competitive for all teams involved.

Take the last 4 teams in each division or conference play each other in their own league. If the coach preseason or whenever divisions are discussed thinks he has a contending team, then put them in the league they belong.

Take Connetquot, why is Connetquot playing Copaigue brentwood Londwood Flyod. maybe 2 of those not a 4. and why Copaigue and not Pat Med.

Does someone in Section IX look at each school schedule and say this is fair and conveys sportsmanship.

As someone pointed out earlier with respect to the MC game, there are multiple rules from NYS on down that need to be followed with regards to scheduling - that is a major effort that would have to start at the state level and then be worked out at the section levels thereafter. Bottom line is that it is not at Suffolk's (Section 11) discretion.

I am calling Bull $hit on this, as posted earlier which sparked the comment of NYS rules, look at the Westchester, Capital Region or Upper Tier teams teams, still in NYS. I didnt comment then, but how it is a NYS rule when they can do it. It is clearly the LI sections not NYS. Your coach lied to you if you were told that and your AD has no back bone

here is an "A" team schedule for Sect 1 look at the cross divisions this team plays and how many in there class 4. they could beat up on the weaker teams

NY A Sec 1
NY A Sec 2
NY C Sec 1
NY NY AAA-AA
NY A Sec 1
NY D Sec 5
NY A Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY C Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY A Sec 1
NY B Sec 1
NY D Sec 1

here is a capital region school's section and class spread.
NY D Sec 3
NY B Sec 5
NY A Sec 3
NY B Sec 1
NY B Sec 3
NY D Sec 3
NY D Sec 3
NY A Sec 5
NY B Sec 3
NY C Sec 3
NY B Sec 3
NY B Sec 3
NY A Sec 3
NY C Sec 3
NY B Sec 5
NY B Sec 3

I could go on all day...

look at this Rochester area team, all different class and divison and even some LI schools.

NY A Sec 5
NY B Sec 5
NY A Sec 3
NY A Sec 5
NY B Sec 5
NY B Sec 5
NY A Sec 5
NY A Sec 11
NY B Sec 11
NY B Sec 5
NY B Sec 5
NY B Sec 5
NY A Sec 6
NY B Sec 5
NY D Sec 5
NY A Sec 5

Would Lakeland and Panas be C schools if they had their own teams at each school?
Would Newfield or Centereach be A school if each team had their own team for each school?

When is that cushy summer AD meeting in the summer. Wonder if it will be at the casino again, tax dollars at work.

Comparing NYS Sections that are more rural than 8 or 11 does not take into account that there MAY be NYSPHSAA scheduling allowances/exceptions for more diverse play in those Sections, allowances not provided to urban and/or suburban sections, such as 8 and 11. As an extreme example, even between Section 8 and 11, CSH was put into Section 8 despite truly being a Section 11 locale just because they were geographically closer to comparable sized schools in order to make travel reasonable. I don't have access to the rules, that govern the schedules, but unless you have empirical knowledge that is contrary, your apples to oranges comparisons do not disprove the stated general basis for the schedules that exist today. You might make the argue that Section 1 (or 2, but having attended college in the Albany area, I can tell you that is not the case!) is not more rural than Section 11, but the only opinion that matters in that sense is how NYSPHSAA considers Section I in that regard (or how it considered both sections when it set up and/or amended the current rules). If someone with explicit knowledge of these details wants to offer up info supporting one side or the other, it would answer the question as opposed to supposition. But, at this point, it seems the NYSPHSAA rule shave been mentioned more often than not, and when considered against an argument supported by anecdotal observation, the latter seems more based on supposition than the former.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Comparing NYS Sections that are more rural than 8 or 11 does not take into account that there MAY be NYSPHSAA scheduling allowances/exceptions for more diverse play in those Sections, allowances not provided to urban and/or suburban sections, such as 8 and 11. As an extreme example, even between Section 8 and 11, CSH was put into Section 8 despite truly being a Section 11 locale just because they were geographically closer to comparable sized schools in order to make travel reasonable. I don't have access to the rules, that govern the schedules, but unless you have empirical knowledge that is contrary, your apples to oranges comparisons do not disprove the stated general basis for the schedules that exist today. You might make the argue that Section 1 (or 2, but having attended college in the Albany area, I can tell you that is not the case!) is not more rural than Section 11, but the only opinion that matters in that sense is how NYSPHSAA considers Section I in that regard (or how it considered both sections when it set up and/or amended the current rules). If someone with explicit knowledge of these details wants to offer up info supporting one side or the other, it would answer the question as opposed to supposition. But, at this point, it seems the NYSPHSAA rule shave been mentioned more often than not, and when considered against an argument supported by anecdotal observation, the latter seems more based on supposition than the former.

Yeah what he/she said.

if location was the driving factor 1/4 of Suffolk (Western Suffolk) would be in Sect 8. I had seen the rules 2 years ago but forgot the verbiage

If a rule exists then it needs to be examined. CSH could have remained in Sect 11 and played more Sect 11 schools. Any bi-county school district could play both and cross polinate the classes.

What good is a game like Riverhead going to Copaigue or Ward Melville vs Lindenhurst or West islip vs Middle country. Why would Copaigue or Lindy want those games? Why would West Islip not want to play Massapequa or Syosset instead of Middle Country.

Massapequa and Farmingdale being the big A schools which are a stones throw to w suffolk. What about Syosset and Commack and Northport. All close enough to each other...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Comparing NYS Sections that are more rural than 8 or 11 does not take into account that there MAY be NYSPHSAA scheduling allowances/exceptions for more diverse play in those Sections, allowances not provided to urban and/or suburban sections, such as 8 and 11. As an extreme example, even between Section 8 and 11, CSH was put into Section 8 despite truly being a Section 11 locale just because they were geographically closer to comparable sized schools in order to make travel reasonable. I don't have access to the rules, that govern the schedules, but unless you have empirical knowledge that is contrary, your apples to oranges comparisons do not disprove the stated general basis for the schedules that exist today. You might make the argue that Section 1 (or 2, but having attended college in the Albany area, I can tell you that is not the case!) is not more rural than Section 11, but the only opinion that matters in that sense is how NYSPHSAA considers Section I in that regard (or how it considered both sections when it set up and/or amended the current rules). If someone with explicit knowledge of these details wants to offer up info supporting one side or the other, it would answer the question as opposed to supposition. But, at this point, it seems the NYSPHSAA rule shave been mentioned more often than not, and when considered against an argument supported by anecdotal observation, the latter seems more based on supposition than the former.

I am not an historian but CSH has been playing a Nassau schedule forever. and for all the points being made in all the above posts, they made power conferences for girls HS in Section 8 so it is possible, it just takes work and it also means it is not against NYS rules

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Comparing NYS Sections that are more rural than 8 or 11 does not take into account that there MAY be NYSPHSAA scheduling allowances/exceptions for more diverse play in those Sections, allowances not provided to urban and/or suburban sections, such as 8 and 11. As an extreme example, even between Section 8 and 11, CSH was put into Section 8 despite truly being a Section 11 locale just because they were geographically closer to comparable sized schools in order to make travel reasonable. I don't have access to the rules, that govern the schedules, but unless you have empirical knowledge that is contrary, your apples to oranges comparisons do not disprove the stated general basis for the schedules that exist today. You might make the argue that Section 1 (or 2, but having attended college in the Albany area, I can tell you that is not the case!) is not more rural than Section 11, but the only opinion that matters in that sense is how NYSPHSAA considers Section I in that regard (or how it considered both sections when it set up and/or amended the current rules). If someone with explicit knowledge of these details wants to offer up info supporting one side or the other, it would answer the question as opposed to supposition. But, at this point, it seems the NYSPHSAA rule shave been mentioned more often than not, and when considered against an argument supported by anecdotal observation, the latter seems more based on supposition than the former.

I am not an historian but CSH has been playing a Nassau schedule forever. and for all the points being made in all the above posts, they made power conferences for girls HS in Section 8 so it is possible, it just takes work and it also means it is not against NYS rules

No one said it was impossible nor without effort to enact changes. On the girls side, do we know that NYSPHSAA did not make a rule or rule exception to allow for power conferences? And, yes, CSH has been in Section 8 since I think the 50s per some posts a while back - not sure what the deal was with them before that. But they didn't just do it of their own volition.

A few years ago, Section 1 mandated that each team play a home and away game against each divisional opponent, thereby limiting the number of out-of-section games to only a few. That lasted 1 year, as the stronger schools (Yorktown, Bronxville, etc) thought it made them less competitive come playoff time. Now they play several out-of-section teams (this year Yorktown plays Darien, Wilton, Ridgefield, St. Anthony, Chaminade, Bridgewater-Raritan and Jamesville DeWitt).

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Anybody surprised to hear Chaminade blowing out Anthony's? Starters left game a little into 4th with 12-4 lead...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody surprised to hear Chaminade blowing out Anthony's? Starters left game a little into 4th with 12-4 lead...

St. Anthony's was quite surprised

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

didn't know they were "updating scores" of absolutely meaningless games on BOTC...but thanks Pequa Dad for the post from front seat of your car in parking lot...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

LI Lax Community 24 - Massapequa 0 (Starters out after Q1)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would Lakeland and Panas be C schools if they had their own teams at each school?
Would Newfield or Centereach be A school if each team had their own team for each school?

newfield and centereach would not be able to field seperate teams.m.c. needed to bring up and start/ play 8 underclassmen just to fill a varsity team this year.no kids get cut if you want to play you get a uniform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

Dad,

Please stop, you are embarrassing me. That's why mommy left you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

Dad,

Please stop, you are embarrassing me. That's why mommy left you.

What is your problem? Lack of love? Kid sucks at lacrosse? Small reproduction organ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

Dad,

Please stop, you are embarrassing me. That's why mommy left you.

What is your problem? Lack of love? Kid sucks at lacrosse? Small reproduction organ?

What is a 'reproduction organ' is that like some kind of an old church organ that was reproduced? Oh, you mean 'reproductive organ'? You should have studied harder in school, get it right next time. Perhaps you went to trade school and learned how to use TOOLS!

Well, at least we know that your are definitely from Pequa.

Really stupid, and sad conversation. You two are having.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 16- Uniondale-0. Starters out at the half.

Is that result supposed to impress someone? We can all get the score from the newspaper - no need to post it on BOTC.

It was a score update on the BOTC HS thread. Just want to tell you you're a miserable jerk, just in case your wife and kids didn't tell you at breakfast.

Dad,

Please stop, you are embarrassing me. That's why mommy left you.

What is your problem? Lack of love? Kid sucks at lacrosse? Small reproduction organ?

What is a 'reproduction organ' is that like some kind of an old church organ that was reproduced? Oh, you mean 'reproductive organ'? You should have studied harder in school, get it right next time. Perhaps you went to trade school and learned how to use TOOLS!

Well, at least we know that your are definitely from Pequa.

You are a very insecure man, don't worry you're kids hate you your wife hates you, but at the end of the day you're a witty BOTC poster. Congrats, can only guess what town you're from.

This site has become pretty much useless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This site has become pretty much useless.

Unless you are u interested to know that Massapequa beat Uniondale 16-0, then this site is very useful... So to get back to your point...useless really.

Big game Monday West Islip at Ward Melville 11:30 AM, always a good game when these two meet.

11:30 game?..is that start time geared to the couch potatoes so they can watch "The View" first?
Most folks have to work in real world at that time, correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big game Monday West Islip at Ward Melville 11:30 AM, always a good game when these two meet.

West Islip is struggling again this year, will not be a good game. On the other Hand, the Chaminade WM game tomorrow should be a must watch thriller!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big game Monday West Islip at Ward Melville 11:30 AM, always a good game when these two meet.

West Islip is struggling again this year, will not be a good game. On the other Hand, the Chaminade WM game tomorrow should be a must watch thriller!

Yes 11:30AM start kids are off next week

They are 5 and 0, you call that struggling, what would you say if they were 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big game Monday West Islip at Ward Melville 11:30 AM, always a good game when these two meet.

West Islip is struggling again this year, will not be a good game. On the other Hand, the Chaminade WM game tomorrow should be a must watch thriller!

Thriller, yes. I pick Chami 15-10.

Is game between SWR and ESM goign to set the stage for SWR.

WM is Chaminade at WM Saturday at 1:00pm
....any humble predictions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is Chaminade at WM Saturday at 1:00pm
....any humble predictions?

Chaminade 10
WM 8

Both Chaminade and WM are very good this year. Should be a great game. No predictions. Know talented players on both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is game between SWR and ESM goign to set the stage for SWR.

Stage is set - Lights are on - Curtain is going up at 7:00.

Come see the drama
Come see the intrigue
Come see the despair
Come see the show!

Friday night lax where 5-0 ESM takes on 2016 LI Class B Champs SWR. currently 2-1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is Chaminade at WM Saturday at 1:00pm
....any humble predictions?

Chaminade 6 - WM 5, but Massapequa will take starters out in 3rd quarter

How about the Smithtown West FOGO? He'll smoke anyone on LI

So you won every FO, and still lost to GC 6 t 1?

Chaminade 10 - 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is Chaminade at WM Saturday at 1:00pm
....any humble predictions?

From afar, Chammy looks deeper. Loaded at every position. Could be wrong here, but better Coaching gives WM a slight edge. 9-8 WM. May the best team win. Surely a display of some of LI's best. Good Luck to both teams. I will be watching on MSG Varsity.

Great game today melville/chaminade. Except for psycho melville parents. Wow.

ESM is now 6-0

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ESM is now 6-0

thanks was just wondering what esm is doing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game today melville/chaminade. Except for psycho melville parents. Wow.

Great game today by both teams. Please don't judge WM by a few "pyscho" fans. Most have respect for the game and all players on the field.

I was not impressed with Duke committs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is Chaminade at WM Saturday at 1:00pm
....any humble predictions?

Chaminade 6 - WM 5, but Massapequa will take starters out in 3rd quarter

great call - but when did Chiefs starters come out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game today melville/chaminade. Except for psycho melville parents. Wow.

They can't handle it when there kids are outplayed. #overrated

I heard nothing but how good Ward Melville is and nobody will beat them. I also heard Chaminade was overrated Well after yesterday I think the opposite Chaminade coming together and Ward Melville overrated. I think WM only had the ball for 2min in the first quarter. Chaminade hit a few pipes or it would have been over. 2nd half refs decided to call a different game and started throwing flags. HOW DOES THE SAME REF GET TO DO WM GAMES ? He has done 3 games this year.
As for the WM parents they were frustrated and did not see this coming. They were ok but the knucklehead students or older brothers along the fence were the ones causing problems yelling at people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was not impressed with Duke committs

Why not??

I don't know about your analysis but I was at the game and WM is a very good public school and Chaminade is a very good private school. The difference is always depth and it showed. To me the better team won. Overrated is a bit much to pin on WM, their goal is to win Suffolk and go on from there. Why are you making excuses when you won the game...pipes & referee?

How can u be a year older,going to Duke, and you can't dodge anyone.

Duke commit goalie had a very good game against WM.

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can u be a year older,going to Duke, and you can't dodge anyone.

hahaha going to be a rude awakening in college. Kis won't see the field!

no excuses it was the score was so low

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

There are so many kids better on LI, then the Duke commits.

WM parents can't wait for the psycho dad and mom to leave they are an embarrassment to be around. We try and sit as far away from them as possible.
quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game today melville/chaminade. Except for psycho melville parents. Wow.

Great game today by both teams. Please don't judge WM by a few "pyscho" fans. Most have respect for the game and all players on the field.[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game today melville/chaminade. Except for psycho melville parents. Wow.

Great game today by both teams. Please don't judge WM by a few "pyscho" fans. Most have respect for the game and all players on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are so many kids better on LI, then the Duke commits.

Maybe...but can they get in to Duke? 2.5 GPA, 980 SAT and 100MPH shot wont cut it...just sayin'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are so many kids better on LI, then the Duke commits.

doesn't matter who is better now, only matters who was bigger, stronger, faster and better in 9th grade

Any predictions for the WI vs WM game today ??

I'm taking WI

9-7

wm 10-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are so many kids better on LI, then the Duke commits.

doesn't matter who is better now, only matters who was bigger, stronger, faster and better in 9th grade

Dukes 2019 recruiting class is no joke.
Some real special players.

...and no, not mine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any predictions for the WI vs WM game today ??

I'm taking WI

9-7

Final WM 9 WI 5

anybody know the score of the HHH West game vs SWR?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are so many kids better on LI, then the Duke commits.

doesn't matter who is better now, only matters who was bigger, stronger, faster and better in 9th grade

Dukes 2019 recruiting class is no joke.
Some real special players.

...and no, not mine

Your right, those kids were the tops a couple years, ago. But have now become average players on the field. Still good players but not superstars anymore. They have been passed by. Many better players standing out over them. They should be happy they were recruited early, otherwise they'd be headed to Mt. St. Marys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

What PR Agency wrote this?

So wrong on so many points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

Nice MO... Leave a program right after your marque player graduates. Port knows all about this with TR.

Pathetic.

Next Stop St. Dominick's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

SWR 18
HHHW 5

I guess SWR has a LOT more talented kids.

.... And a better coaching staff.

Is it true that HHHW nice down a division and are 0-4?

Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

The time that Rooney puts in is way more than the previous coaching staff committed to. They also started doing year round training for the first time last year. They have several kids who were on the 9d1 team that won the World Series of Lacrosse, so they have a higher number of players committed, but don't have the depth. One of the Duke commits is still rehabbing an injury, and isn't 100%, another D1 commit is out with a Shoulder injury. I'm shocked at their performance this year based on what I have seen TR work on over the winter. They are putting in extra time on the practice field trying to figure things out, and make up for the injuries. He is not mailing it in, and the same goes for the rest of the staff. My kid doesn't play for him yet, but is looking forward to it in the future.

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Wow! I didn't realize that a 7-5 victory was considered dominating.

I just leaned something new!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

The time that Rooney puts in is way more than the previous coaching staff committed to. They also started doing year round training for the first time last year. They have several kids who were on the 9d1 team that won the World Series of Lacrosse, so they have a higher number of players committed, but don't have the depth. One of the Duke commits is still rehabbing an injury, and isn't 100%, another D1 commit is out with a Shoulder injury. I'm shocked at their performance this year based on what I have seen TR work on over the winter. They are putting in extra time on the practice field trying to figure things out, and make up for the injuries. He is not mailing it in, and the same goes for the rest of the staff. My kid doesn't play for him yet, but is looking forward to it in the future.

What is the World Series of Lacrosse? Some type of participation event? Did they win for having the nicest uniforms?

I didn't hear you say anything about the defense, or lack thereof.

Try class C next year.

Oh, and I guess you are moving closer to St. Dominick's next year, to get TR coaching. Cool!

Give it a rest already. You have an unhealthy obsession. Get some help. Seriously

You sound like a psycho stalker. Get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Wow! I didn't realize that a 7-5 victory was considered dominating.

I just leaned something new!

Yep you did! Embarrassing for your team especially since you were winning face offs and still couldn't get in the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits -
Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

...err Dad's 91 juice paid off! ...Duke carries over 50 players, 1 or 2 favors won't cost them a final 4 appearance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Wow! I didn't realize that a 7-5 victory was considered dominating.

I just leaned something new!

Yep you did! Embarrassing for your team especially since you were winning face offs and still couldn't get in the game.

West has some good athletes but their shot selection is inexcusable...
crushed CSH on GBs, but West was completely out executed on Man-down/Man-up...

Emabarrasing is too strong, but East is the better team this year... but neither team is great by any stretch

What the heck happened to Northport this year?

Coming off a 2 game losing streak SWR sticks it to HHHW by the score of 18-5.
SWR player scores 6. Gotta get those stats up?

Not as bad as the Smithtown East game against Middle Country (where their player scored 8), but it seems like the coaches just don't get it.

Ever hear of respecting the game? How about letting the other end the bench play?

Do these coaches have something to prove? Some kind of agenda.

I fully expect that when GC plays SWR and is up by 10; the GC underclassmen with be carrying the load late in the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

... speaking of Duke recruits - Hills West just got smoked by a Harborfields D w no commits

Yup.... A little Long Island "Home Cookin" on those recruits. Not too hard to connect the dots. East Meadow pride runs deep!

Plus TR is mailing it in these days, Looking for his next gig. St. Dominick's maybe?

TR is not mailing it in. He's a great coach. He can only do so much with the talent he has. Just because a player is committed doesn't mean there are not better players out there that are not committed. We do know that many commits (not all) are about who you know not how you play. TR has great coaches working with his team and is 100% commited to his program. It's amazing that when a program that has a great coach but doesn't have good players and coach is to blame. You can't get blood from a stone. It's his 2nd year there. There are many schools that would live to have TR as a coach.So many of these commits are just not as good as they are hyped up to be. They might have been bigger and faster in 9th or 10th grade because they were more mature physically or had better stick skills because they were trained well by dad at an early age. Eventually kida catch up physically, athletically, and skills wise. Take them away from their club team where they are surrounded by other great players they are just average on their own.

What PR Agency wrote this?

So wrong on so many points.

So what parts are so wrong. Enlighten us. Please!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Wow! I didn't realize that a 7-5 victory was considered dominating.

I just leaned something new!

Yep you did! Embarrassing for your team especially since you were winning face offs and still couldn't get in the game.

West has some good athletes but their shot selection is inexcusable...
crushed CSH on GBs, but West was completely out executed on Man-down/Man-up...

Dominated what, the town that is Smith's?

How many underclassman played for each team? Since the game is over I can confidently say West has a stronger future.

Bad coaching. I watched them play yesterday against my son's team and they are a lot better than there record. Very good defense, their goalie made a lot of saves standing on his head, but there looked like a discord between the offense and defense. At this level you are only going to win so many games relying on our defense.

Bad coaching. I watched them play yesterday against my son's team and they are a lot better than there record. Very good defense, solid face-off and their goalie made a lot of saves standing on his head to keep them in the game, but there looked like a discord between the offense and defense. The offense wasn't that impressive. A lot of standing around and guys trying to just back defenders down. At this level you aren't going to win to many games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown East is back on top. Dominating West toady, who looked quite unimpressive.They got off to a slow start without their star attackman, but now are now ready to take on anyone. Season is about to get interesting!

Wow! I didn't realize that a 7-5 victory was considered dominating.

I just leaned something new!

Yep you did! Embarrassing for your team especially since you were winning face offs and still couldn't get in the game.

West has some good athletes but their shot selection is inexcusable...
crushed CSH on GBs, but West was completely out executed on Man-down/Man-up...

Dominated what, the town that is Smith's?

How many underclassman played for each team? Since the game is over I can confidently say West has a stronger future.

You should worry about this year, trying to predict the future is silly, much changes with the young men.

With Smithtown East's full roster of D1 commits that dominance should have been much more impressive than 7-5, don't you think? Especially if you say West was not playing at their best.

Massapequa 4 - Carey 1, When did the starters come out?

Pequa is young, some growing pains. Will be ok
Come playoff time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Smithtown East's full roster of D1 commits that dominance should have been much more impressive than 7-5, don't you think? Especially if you say West was not playing at their best.

It always seems like a team doesn't play at their best when they play better competition. They have a decent team, just not a contender. The fogo was impressive, reminded me of the game 3 years ago when west was the team to beat the east sophomore came out and won all the face offs. Difference is that this time the better team won without getting possessions, so it became a no factor.

Pequa best player out hurt, should be back Saturday , will help

[quote=Anonymous]Pequa best player out hurt, should be back Saturday , will help[/quote

Tell your son we hope he feels better!

Not my son, my son holds is own pretty well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa 4 - Carey 1, When did the starters come out?

A win is a win, whether by 1 goal, 3 goals or 12 goals. counts the same.
Final was 4-1, but the game was in hand throughout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not my son, my son holds is own pretty well.

Did you say "my son holds his own"??

Wow you are one big A HOLE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Smithtown East's full roster of D1 commits that dominance should have been much more impressive than 7-5, don't you think? Especially if you say West was not playing at their best.

It always seems like a team doesn't play at their best when they play better competition. They have a decent team, just not a contender. The fogo was impressive, reminded me of the game 3 years ago when west was the team to beat the east sophomore came out and won all the face offs. Difference is that this time the better team won without getting possessions, so it became a no factor.

Two of the top 4 teams in Suffolk. And, who cares how many D 1 commits a team has when it's a cross town rival playing against kids who have known each other and played together for over 10 years. Tough game for either team to lose. Good fight by both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow you are one big A HOLE.

...maybe now, you'll get the point; not to draw anonymous opinions/comments about a player (your son) that no one knows whom your referring to.
So sir, seems you are the one "holding your own..."

SEast vs Pequa today. 14-8 East is my prediction

Again not my son, D Head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again not my son, D Head.

So, is your son ready for the big game today?

Well, hears my prediction...Dalers over Pequa 10-7...

Great game at Cold Spring Harbor this past weekend. Team looks awesome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well, hears my prediction...Dalers over Pequa 10-7...

Perhaps, but Massapequa played a very good Smithtown East team losing 10-9, game went down to the wire. We shall see, I predict Massapequa 12-Farmingdale 9. Faceoffs will be a huge factor.

While CSH vs. Huntington was more exciting than anticipated, not the best lacrosse. Looked to me like CSH exhaled after big non-league games vs. out of regions foes. No horse in the race, but I was expecting this game to be more lopsided. Huntington was spunky.

Good call on Pequa vs. F'Dale. F'dale seems to be improved this year. Should be a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

While CSH vs. Huntington was more exciting than anticipated, not the best lacrosse. Looked to me like CSH exhaled after big non-league games vs. out of regions foes. No horse in the race, but I was expecting this game to be more lopsided. Huntington was spunky.

Huntington had some tough kids. If the new head coach can get the farm system built things might look good for the future there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

While CSH vs. Huntington was more exciting than anticipated, not the best lacrosse. Looked to me like CSH exhaled after big non-league games vs. out of regions foes. No horse in the race, but I was expecting this game to be more lopsided. Huntington was spunky.

Huntington had some tough kids. If the new head coach can get the farm system built things might look good for the future there.

Now, you've gone and done it - you've invoked the idea that a HS coach might have to get involved with the JV/MS, and, dare I say, local PAL program in order to solidify their future. Be ready for the all the morons here on BOTC who previously lambasted that idea as a model of how to seriously grow a sport and program! 3, 2, 1, . . .

Huntington, generally speaking, has had an active youth program for years. I think the bigger issue is loss of kids to St. A's and Chaminade annually.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

While CSH vs. Huntington was more exciting than anticipated, not the best lacrosse. Looked to me like CSH exhaled after big non-league games vs. out of regions foes. No horse in the race, but I was expecting this game to be more lopsided. Huntington was spunky.

Huntington had some tough kids. If the new head coach can get the farm system built things might look good for the future there.

Now, you've gone and done it - you've invoked the idea that a HS coach might have to get involved with the JV/MS, and, dare I say, local PAL program in order to solidify their future. Be ready for the all the morons here on BOTC who previously lambasted that idea as a model of how to seriously grow a sport and program! 3, 2, 1, . . .

Opinions are like.....................

Huntington's Offense was very effective against CSH D (after 1st qtr miscues)...
CSH way too dominant at the X for Huntington to overcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington, generally speaking, has had an active youth program for years. I think the bigger issue is loss of kids to St. A's and Chaminade annually.

Not true. The few players that Huntington loses are not the players on top. St A's and Chaminade can have them...and the parents too.

What is not true? I know they've had a vibrant youth system for years. I know that they lose 2-3 players a year to those schools that have been decent players including the best player in the soph class who is now a Freshamen at one of those schools included.. My point was its not like Huntington doesn't have a youth system but more they lose a few kids each year--whether they are the #1 or #10 who knows but that is depth that is fleeing. I can't believe Huntington couldn't find anyone better in the whole program to trot out and take the faceoffs over a Freshman either.

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

I never said FOGO - I said player who takes the F/O - it should be a mid who can actually play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

" least athletic player" - based upon what?? There are plenty of FOGOs who, were it not for the prowess at the X and the desire of their coach to have them available for any and all faceoffs whenever they occur, would likely be able to play mid on a regular shift for their team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

First off, who is the varsity coach to demand anything of the PAL program? Secondly, slowing the game down at all will kill it for TV. Bowling gets more coverage on TV than NCAA lacrosse and you want to make the game LESS exciting? The faceoff is an exciting aspect to the game. The sport will then very quickly become meaningless in NCAA and will be a club sport.

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz.....

With all the great lacrosse that CSH has played this year and the competition they have beat, this is the only thing we can chat about regarding CSH Lax?

Beat Syosset, Smithtown W, New Canaan, John Jay, ...

As for Huntington /CSH ... I think the town rivalry game is a fun exciting, chippy game every year that both teams show up for. Traditionally, both sides play sloppy and emotional. Never "great" lacrosse but FUN to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

BOTC the posters are referring to a very specific player and you should consider the deletion of the posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is not true? I know they've had a vibrant youth system for years. I know that they lose 2-3 players a year to those schools that have been decent players including the best player in the soph class who is now a Freshamen at one of those schools included.. My point was its not like Huntington doesn't have a youth system but more they lose a few kids each year--whether they are the #1 or #10 who knows but that is depth that is fleeing. I can't believe Huntington couldn't find anyone better in the whole program to trot out and take the faceoffs over a Freshman either.

Couldn't take this post seriously once I saw "the best player in the soph class who is now a freshman"...maybe that new private school freshman will eventually find his way back and be the best freshman at Huntington next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

BOTC the posters are referring to a very specific player and you should consider the deletion of the posts.

Says the guy who missed out that the subsequent posters are speaking generically about a position and not any one player . . . either the internet makes people dumb or they were just dumb to start with - not which is true for this guy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

First off, who is the varsity coach to demand anything of the PAL program? Secondly, slowing the game down at all will kill it for TV. Bowling gets more coverage on TV than NCAA lacrosse and you want to make the game LESS exciting? The faceoff is an exciting aspect to the game. The sport will then very quickly become meaningless in NCAA and will be a club sport.

If your HS coach is not involved in speaking with the community's youth program, then he, the program, and, thus, the community is missing out - maybe it wouldn't be a demand, but it should involve communication and coordination.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Footnote...The Hunt Varsity F/O frosh was WAY overmatched; he'd be 3rd string on CSH JV.

My opinion on F/Os: any coach that is heading up a HS varsity program should demand from his MS and JV coaches (and maybe even the PAL program!) that they have 2 - 3 boys in each grade that consistently work on F/Os. Many of them may never be more than average, but you will at least have more options available at varsity than having to resort to a way overmatched freshman, and you might actually develope some quality options!

And that just goes to show how the least athletic player (the fogo) has distorted the game. Time to get rid of the faceoffs after every goal. 4 faceoffs at beginning of each quarter. Let the field players determine the game.

BOTC the posters are referring to a very specific player and you should consider the deletion of the posts.

Sorry but this is referring to this persons opinion about faceoffs not an individual player from any particular team.

They actually did do away with faceoffs after every goal. Not sure what year but it was in the 80's because coaches complained about a few schools who had so called "fogo's" that dominated. They gave the ball to the other team after a score thinking it would even out the game and make it more competitive. Lasted one year.

Next they will have the boys face off like the girls do. Might as well you can't hit anymore.

Sayings new rules did away with:
Man ball
Ball release.
I got man

Please add

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH

After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.

1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)

Did their getting "beat up" have any effect on the game? I'll look at your comment as a compliment to how disciplined and tough the CSH kids were too take that "physical pounding" that the Huntington Bad boys were dishing out... I think I just saw Big Foot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did their getting "beat up" have any effect on the game? I'll look at your comment as a compliment to how disciplined and tough the CSH kids were too take that "physical pounding" that the Huntington Bad boys were dishing out... I think I just saw Big Foot!

Spoiled rich twits and soft woosy's walking the greenbelt trail down by the library. You might have seen your own in the woods.

Lucky they played Syosset early.

Please with your Syosset gibberish. Same story every year...

"Spoiled rich twits and soft woosy's walking the greenbelt trail down by the library. You might have seen your own in the woods."

That is funny purely for its lack of relevance.

Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

CSH only has 3 skilled kids who make up the entire team. Your kid is not one of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

CSH only has 3 skilled kids who make up the entire team. Your kid is not one of them.

Please stop with the only "3 skilled kids" BS - you are making yourself look more foolish every time you post it. And, FTR, I have no skin in the game, IE, I am not a CSH parent nor resident.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed

I definitely think you're a conspiracy theorist. It was a night game. Information is called in. When Newsday publishes it isn't GC controlling it. It was a 7-4 game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH

After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.

1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)

CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

CSH only has 3 skilled kids who make up the entire team. Your kid is not one of them.

That would be 3 more skilled kids than Huntington has. And my son plays is a D-1 commit who plays against CSH, not for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH

After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.

1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)

CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.

Says the guy when CSH has been top-ranked EVERY year in I don't know how long. Quick - tell this everyone else in the lacrosse world they are all wrong and THIS guy really knows what's going on. Hereafter, all HS ranking will come directly from THIS guy! Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

CSH only has 3 skilled kids who make up the entire team. Your kid is not one of them.

That would be 3 more skilled kids than Huntington has. And my son plays is a D-1 commit who plays against CSH, not for them.

Nice try loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed

I definitely think you're a conspiracy theorist. It was a night game. Information is called in. When Newsday publishes it isn't GC controlling it. It was a 7-4 game.

It would be unsanitary to have anything written about this GC game. "They" will have none of it. However, If they won - have a parade!

Now, if St. I wins today, we all know the feathers will fly with all the derogatory comments.

By the way, it was a 6:00 game so, it was not late. Also, the box score still is not up on newsday or news 12.

Lastly, the game is not even listed on the schedule of GC.

Totally whitewashed.

Next headline will be: "The Trojans are 7-0 in all the the games they won"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Blue Devil tough guy...please explain this idiotic post...

"The funny thing is that the CSH boys couldn't man up to a physical challenge with H-Ton."

I think they did in fact complete the game, won with ease and were never threatened (on the score board anyway). Did I miss them walking off the field, not going to the cage or not picking up any key ground balls because of the "Huntington physical challenge"? Keep looking for Sasquatch while your at it...

Nope, just saw CSH getting beat up, and not in reference to stick skills or goals scored because of the kid with the rocket shot.

Too bad "getting beat up" and and not manning up mean nothing to anyone other than the losers from "H-Ton".....oh wait, to everyone else it means that H-Ton wasn't as skilled.

CSH only has 3 skilled kids who make up the entire team. Your kid is not one of them.

That would be 3 more skilled kids than Huntington has. And my son plays is a D-1 commit who plays against CSH, not for them.

Nice try loser.

Pretty sure Huntington was the loser.

Huntington guy and Syosset guy; You are both right. I put very little credence into the national polls--paper shooting at best. And just like in the NCAA's this year, just about any of those teams in the top 25 could beat any one of the other teams on any given day. Only facts to deal with are CSH beat both Syosset and Huntington AGAIN this year. So save your sour grapes to feed to big foot when you find him. No one from CSH is on here pounding their chests about being the best or superior to anyone else. Any given day, but so far each day has been their day--hopefully--keeps happening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed

I definitely think you're a conspiracy theorist. It was a night game. Information is called in. When Newsday publishes it isn't GC controlling it. It was a 7-4 game.

It would be unsanitary to have anything written about this GC game. "They" will have none of it. However, If they won - have a parade!

Now, if St. I wins today, we all know the feathers will fly with all the derogatory comments.

By the way, it was a 6:00 game so, it was not late. Also, the box score still is not up on newsday or news 12.

Lastly, the game is not even listed on the schedule of GC.

Totally whitewashed.

Next headline will be: "The Trojans are 7-0 in all the the games they won"

You are a real whack job obsessed about GC. Try telling everyone on here how YOUR kid's team did, instead about GC. What a loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH

After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.

1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)

CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.

Says the guy when CSH has been top-ranked EVERY year in I don't know how long. Quick - tell this everyone else in the lacrosse world they are all wrong and THIS guy really knows what's going on. Hereafter, all HS ranking will come directly from THIS guy! Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt!

"Top ranked" secondary to a perpetually weak schedule and having certain "media types" having boy crushes on a few of the players. They don't and will not play anyone else on that list above. Isn't that interesting? While several on that list will play several others. So who belongs: the boy crush team or the legit top ranked teams who actually play each other?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH

After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.

1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)

CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.

Says the guy when CSH has been top-ranked EVERY year in I don't know how long. Quick - tell this everyone else in the lacrosse world they are all wrong and THIS guy really knows what's going on. Hereafter, all HS ranking will come directly from THIS guy! Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt!

"Top ranked" secondary to a perpetually weak schedule and having certain "media types" having boy crushes on a few of the players. They don't and will not play anyone else on that list above. Isn't that interesting? While several on that list will play several others. So who belongs: the boy crush team or the legit top ranked teams who actually play each other?

edit: one team from Connecticut doesn't cut it (see what I did there?)

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Whitman bit$&

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??

Just looked at the CSH schedule. Quality wins over SW, Syosset, Southside, New Canaan, JJCR so far. You are kidding right? Tomato cans? Ask Manhasset if they are a tomato can as they got beat three years in a row by CSH. As far as the boy crush bs, when you deliver back to back state championships I for one respect those boys and so do a lot of other people within the lacrosse community on Long Island.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??

"Me thinks" you should stop looking up your big boy words in the thesaurus & make your own kid better. Knocking down a public school because yours can't beat anyone to get in the rankings or you overpaid riding the bench at a private school is sad.

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just looked at the CSH schedule. Quality wins over SW, Syosset, Southside, New Canaan, JJCR so far. You are kidding right? Tomato cans? Ask Manhasset if they are a tomato can as they got beat three years in a row by CSH. As far as the boy crush bs, when you deliver back to back state championships I for one respect those boys and so do a lot of other people within the lacrosse community on Long Island.

yes; tomato cans....are any of their local "quality wins" over teams besides manhasset on that list? ummmm....no. back to back championships in the tomato can conference. not impressed.

this is not about lack of respect.

this is about undeserved national rankings.

period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.

Again. none on this group mentioned above are on the ranked list. Past glory days being put aside; how do these current "quality wins" justify a 7 ranking?

speak on this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??

LOL - what a tool! Now it's a media conspiracy??! Continue to beclown yourself further, but let me go get my tin foil hat first! And, I am not a CSH resident nor a "fan".

We played them and they are legit. Deeper than you think. Rocket shot kid killed us. No joke. Hope they make a run of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??

"Me thinks" you should stop looking up your big boy words in the thesaurus & make your own kid better. Knocking down a public school because yours can't beat anyone to get in the rankings or you overpaid riding the bench at a private school is sad.

Clearly you are not the Mensa member of the family, so please refrain from further pedantic outbursts and attempts at insults. Try to follow along.

The dialogue was meant to question the validity of a 7 ranking for CSH in the face of a poor overall competition schedule against nationally ranked teams to justify such placement.

expand on this topic if you will

As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.

What "past glory" is involved here??

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

Based on this year's results to date, the center of lax universe is moving down 95 from LI to Baltimore (MIAA) and Washington (IAC)....but in a few years it may be located on the West coast!

Wow, you're so dumb, you failed an open book test. It's in Newsday, 7-4,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.

What "past glory" is involved here??

This past glory(below) pertaining to "quality opponents" as per another post, which apparently is justification for the current status:

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.

What "past glory" is involved here??

This past glory(below) pertaining to "quality opponents" as per another post, which apparently is justification for the current status:

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.

In general, their "quality of opponent" has never been more or less than it is now - I'd even go so far as to argue that it is better today than historically, and any change in competition is largely limited to out of conference opponents, while their in conference competition has been mostly constant. So any allusion that their historical rankings/prestige were justified then ("past glory"), which no one seems to be disputing, versus not being justified today is an application of absolute illogic.

Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

yes...let them stay in their "safe zone" where they are gods among mortals. makes everything rose colored when they don't dare to take on a team that might leave them black and blue. enjoy your rose' and delusional ranking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

hy·poth·e·sis
hīˈpäTHəsəs/
noun
a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
"professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

yes...let them stay in their "safe zone" where they are gods among mortals. makes everything rose colored when they don't dare to take on a team that might leave them black and blue. enjoy your rose' and delusional ranking

You do realize that any team has limited non-conference games they can schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.

Get over it, these are polls. Have you seen every ranked team play & what makes your criteria not "drivel" to everyone else? Those "quality" teams were ranked when schedules were made they just got beat by CSH or others & knocked out. That's the way it goes. We all heard your point but you don't hear anyone else's so move on...or post your own poll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

No, you're just a typical rich [lacrosse] who gives all of us a bad name outside of long island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

Forgive me; I forgot that this forum is followed primarily by long island blue collar types.
That is unfortunate and ultimately very telling by the responses received thus far.
Please do consider going back to school and perhaps you can relate to a higher level of communication without feeling threatened by polysyllabic words.
Cheers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

Thanks, you said it for me, that dude cannot have a friend to his name. Pompous a$$ hole that he is!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.

Touche!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there

So now you want to compare non-conference scheduling flexibility of catholic versus public schools?? Also, even IF they had the same flexibility, to take your position to its logical end, you believe that any school in any given year can simply pick all of its non-conference opponents autonomously, without any consideration for what those opponent schools might want. Sure!

You can also use all of the polysyllabic words you want (as could I, although I choose not to, lest I come off as the pompous [lacrosse] that you do), but it doesn't raise the level of your argument beyond the oversimplistic one you present and/or repeat, ad nauseum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.

Touche!

you work on friday?....and brown bag that lunch at your desk as well??.....so sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there

So now you want to compare non-conference scheduling flexibility of catholic versus public schools?? Also, even IF they had the same flexibility, to take your position to its logical end, you believe that any school in any given year can simply pick all of its non-conference opponents autonomously, without any consideration for what those opponent schools might want. Sure!

You can also use all of the polysyllabic words you want (as could I, although I choose not to, lest I come off as the pompous [lacrosse] that you do), but it doesn't raise the level of your argument beyond the oversimplistic one you present and/or repeat, ad nauseum.

I sense a certain amount of pride being hurt there. poor fella

Seriously, are people really arguing about what HS team is and is not deserving of a "top 25" ranking? Anyone, and I mean anyone who thinks that there is any validity to a ranking of teams across state lines that never play each other is crazy. Not to mention the act that some of the teams listed barely have winning records. Come on man, someone (Ty) just lists 25 of the same pool of teamsnover and over every year. Get a grip, no one will ever know who the best team is and that is a fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there

So now you want to compare non-conference scheduling flexibility of catholic versus public schools?? Also, even IF they had the same flexibility, to take your position to its logical end, you believe that any school in any given year can simply pick all of its non-conference opponents autonomously, without any consideration for what those opponent schools might want. Sure!

You can also use all of the polysyllabic words you want (as could I, although I choose not to, lest I come off as the pompous [lacrosse] that you do), but it doesn't raise the level of your argument beyond the oversimplistic one you present and/or repeat, ad nauseum.

I sense a certain amount of pride being hurt there. poor fella

Not a CSH parent!

WM spanked Smithtown West.

Huntington lacrosse is a mess. What happened to this program?

Northport with a nice win over Commack!

Wow, Miller place keeps winning by playing a team game, they have actually been able to get more assists than goals in some games. Can anyone say the ultimate stat padding to try and get those "deserving " few some post season award they don't deserve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Miller place keeps winning by playing a team game, they have actually been able to get more assists than goals in some games. Can anyone say the ultimate stat padding to try and get those "deserving " few some post season award they don't deserve.

More assists than goals is possible in hockey, but definitely not in lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Miller place keeps winning by playing a team game, they have actually been able to get more assists than goals in some games. Can anyone say the ultimate stat padding to try and get those "deserving " few some post season award they don't deserve.

I guess that next they will win a game by scoring less goals than their opponent. Working magic!

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

8 teams who i see in the playoffs
1 WM
2 Smith E
3 West Islip
4 Smith W
5 Hills East
6 Contqt
7 Rvrhead
8 Commack

The last 3 Spots in Div 1 Suffolk A playoff's, if truly 11 teams are competing, are between these teams

9 Northport
10 Lindy
11 Sachem East
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Sachem North
Bay Shore
PatMed
Whitman
but as the saying goes, if your not 1st your last!!!

I just looked at Miller place Stats. That's ridiculous. They have over a 90 percent assist record on goals. They actually have one game that they have more assists recorded than goals. Talk about stat padding. They should be embarrassed by the flagrant stat padding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

B- has 6 teams in playoffs
C- has 6 teams and they have 4 of those top 6 teams
D- gets 3 teams in playoff (but the catch is only 2 schools are in D)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at Miller place Stats. That's ridiculous. They have over a 90 percent assist record on goals. They actually have one game that they have more assists recorded than goals. Talk about stat padding. They should be embarrassed by the flagrant stat padding.

I know this is BOTC but ever think this is an honest mistake we've all seen how the stats get called in. We've all seen the names be posted 2 times spelled differently.

Why not say wow what great team work, I for one love the "One More" pass for a score. Maybe it is teamwork and not individualistic goal achievement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Just viewed a mp game online. Stats don't match facts. Not cool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just looked at Miller place Stats. That's ridiculous. They have over a 90 percent assist record on goals. They actually have one game that they have more assists recorded than goals. Talk about stat padding. They should be embarrassed by the flagrant stat padding.

I know this is BOTC but ever think this is an honest mistake we've all seen how the stats get called in. We've all seen the names be posted 2 times spelled differently.

Why not say wow what great team work, I for one love the "One More" pass for a score. Maybe it is teamwork and not individualistic goal achievement.

The problem is this, got to watch them play and beat my sons team easily. I never looked at the final stats because the game was not close, after reading this I went to take a look , the number of assists did not jive with my memory of the game. I thought maybe I remembered wrong so I took a look at the game film. MP had at best half the assists they gave credit for so a mistake , I think not. Curious if people think I should send the game film to section xi as those stats do have an influence on post season awards or just let it be, no my kid will not be getting a post season award .

just looked at newsday stats for curiosity.mp has about 121 goals with about 102 assists.as opposed to mt Sinai with about81 goals and about 35 assists. 121/102. Vs 81/35. Just very curious. I guess mp doesn't believe in any one taking it to the cage and scoring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just viewed a mp game online. Stats don't match facts. Not cool.

online how? Where? post so we can see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

B- has 6 teams in playoffs
C- has 6 teams and they have 4 of those top 6 teams
D- gets 3 teams in playoff (but the catch is only 2 schools are in D)

How do you know what Division a team is in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

B- has 6 teams in playoffs
C- has 6 teams and they have 4 of those top 6 teams
D- gets 3 teams in playoff (but the catch is only 2 schools are in D)

How do you know what Division a team is in?

Went to NYSTATE site for this year. Filtered for Sect 11 and loaded it into my database.

Hard part was crossing off the schools that do not have lax and those that combine to make a team.

I think Lynbrook plans on having a say on what teams will actually be in the "C" final... LV can't write their ticket to the finals just yet...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Lynbrook plans on having a say on what teams will actually be in the "C" final... LV can't write their ticket to the finals just yet...

Oh thats cute. Really it is.

You are 3rd in this pony show but I just dont see it. Was anyone hurt in this weeks game/loss to help me believe that.

A 4451 Brentwood High School
2043 William Floyd High School
2014 Longwood High School
1865 Patchogue-Medford High School
1786 Ward Melville Senior High School
1767 Sachem High School East
1710 Commack High School
1690 Sachem High School North
1539 Lindenhurst Senior High School
1537 Central Islip Senior High School
1515 Connetquot High School
1473 Northport Senior High School
1469 Bay Shore Senior High School
1436 Walt Whitman High School
1369 Half Hollow Hills High School East
1272 Riverhead Senior High School
1238 Smithtown High School-West
1224 Smithtown High School East
1200 Walter G O'Connell Copiague High School
1180 Newfield High School
1120 Centereach High School
1114 North Babylon High School
West Islip Senior High School
1087 Huntington High School

B 989 Deer Park High School
976 Bellport Senior High School
971 Half Hollow Hills High School West
944 West Babylon Senior High School
933 Kings Park High School
930 East Islip High School
928 Eastport-South Manor Junior Senior High School
912 Hauppauge High School
878 Comsewogue High School
837 Harborfields High School
794 Rocky Point High School

C 741 Westhampton Beach Senior High School
736 Sayville High School
716 Amityville Memorial High School
703 Islip High School
668 Miller Place High School
660 East Hampton High School
615 Shoreham-Wading River High School
599 Mount Sinai High School
581 Elwood/John Glenn High School
565 Bayport-Blue Point High School
500 Hampton Bays High School
485 Wyandanch Memorial High School
480 Southampton High School
433 Center Moriches High School

D 396 Babylon Junior-Senior High School
371 Mattituck Junior-Senior High School
282 Bishop Mcgann-Mercy Diocesan High School
279 Earl L Vandermeulen High School
249 Ross School
226 Stony Brook School (The)
213 Southold Junior-Senior High School
202 Pierson Middle/High School
190 Greenport High School
126 Smithtown Christian School
65 Shelter Island School
50 Bridgehampton School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

B 989 Deer Park High School
976 Bellport Senior High School
971 Half Hollow Hills High School West
944 West Babylon Senior High School
933 Kings Park High School
930 East Islip High School
928 Eastport-South Manor Junior Senior High School
912 Hauppauge High School
878 Comsewogue High School
837 Harborfields High School
794 Rocky Point High School

Looks like it is
1 ESM
2 EI
3 Harborfields
4 Rocky Point
5 HHH West
6 Hauppauge
7 Comsewogue

Top 6 make the playoffs, correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 4451 Brentwood High School
2043 William Floyd High School
2014 Longwood High School
1865 Patchogue-Medford High School
1786 Ward Melville Senior High School
1767 Sachem High School East
1710 Commack High School
1690 Sachem High School North
1539 Lindenhurst Senior High School
1537 Central Islip Senior High School
1515 Connetquot High School
1473 Northport Senior High School
1469 Bay Shore Senior High School
1436 Walt Whitman High School
1369 Half Hollow Hills High School East
1272 Riverhead Senior High School
1238 Smithtown High School-West
1224 Smithtown High School East
1200 Walter G O'Connell Copiague High School
1180 Newfield High School
1120 Centereach High School
1114 North Babylon High School
West Islip Senior High School
1087 Huntington High School

Weird how some of these play in DIV 2, but are in A

Miller Place has 668, I believe 667 have assists this year .

Still a good program moved up to Div 1 last year and made the playoffs. Pre season number 6th seed this year which resulted into a very tough schedule. Good team but suffered a couple of close losses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Last year CSH lost by a single goal in a regular season, very chippy, sloppy, emotional "bragging rights" game. Hats off to LV. But Please don't make excuses for the absolute 17-8 schooling that CSH put on LV in the playoffs.

As for this year, we have different opinions on the "more equal" thing but the teams will speak for themselves this Friday night.

Syosset wth a 7-4 won over Farmingdale. Farmingdale lost to Massapequa 7-5 earlier in the month. They play Port Washington on Saturday. Will they be able to put up some goals or again not execute their offense. Will they be able to hold Ports high scoring offense off the board. Will Port Washington win vs a good opponent. They seem to beat up on weak teams but fold under pressure versus good teams. Their 2 losses are vs North Shore and Southside. Well maybe not that good since Southside is 5-5. Syosset has Massapequa and Port Washington next. Port Washington has Farmingdale, Syosset, and Massapequa. Probably the toughest 3 games in a row of any of the teams in A. Massapequa has Syosset, Oceanside, and Port Washington next. Will Powers get the team to fire on all cylinders. A lot of things will be decided in the next week.

You mean the ONLY three games. Nassau A is the weakest conference. Look who they play. That conference is a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the ONLY three games. Nassau A is the weakest conference. Look who they play. That conference is a joke.

So which conference is not a joke? B with GC and Manhasset? Then who? Maybe South Side, Really tough conference. C has CSH and LV, then who? Give it a rest fella. A has at least Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa and Port. Plus Oceanside can give a game as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Miller Place has 668, I believe 667 have assists this year .

That was a good one - had you said 669 had assists I'd be rollin'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Lynbrook plans on having a say on what teams will actually be in the "C" final... LV can't write their ticket to the finals just yet...

LV beat up on Lynbrook on Sat - the game was not as close as the final score might indicate - a number of late Gs by Lynbrook after being way down in 3rd Q.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the ONLY three games. Nassau A is the weakest conference. Look who they play. That conference is a joke.

So which conference is not a joke? B with GC and Manhasset? Then who? Maybe South Side, Really tough conference. C has CSH and LV, then who? Give it a rest fella. A has at least Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa and Port. Plus Oceanside can give a game as well.

And nobody can put up a fight in D against Oyster Bay - they could go years without a regular season loss in D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Lynbrook plans on having a say on what teams will actually be in the "C" final... LV can't write their ticket to the finals just yet...

LV crushed Lynbrook despite LV winning maybe 2 faceoffs. Lynbrook was no match physically, with Lynbrook parents complaining that LV was the "cheapest" team they have seen. Lynbrook supervisor even had to tell the parents to act like adults. Lynbrook did make it closer at then end when LV subs were in, that comeback stopped dead when starters went back in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Last year CSH lost by a single goal in a regular season, very chippy, sloppy, emotional "bragging rights" game. Hats off to LV. But Please don't make excuses for the absolute 17-8 schooling that CSH put on LV in the playoffs.

As for this year, we have different opinions on the "more equal" thing but the teams will speak for themselves this Friday night.

LV never had the ball in the finals last year - it was all about the X. And LV was up by 2 or 3 in the regular season game until CSH scored a couple late Gs. And I agree that CSH took some very undisciplined penalties, especially late in the game. To me they were bad enough that were I Bonn, those players would have been riding the bench the next game. We shall see Friday night - if the faceoffs are closer to even than not, I expect a close game either way. But fully expect that they will see each other again in the C finals.

Big one Thursday. WM vs. Smithtown East. Predictions?

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

WM 11
SE 7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset wth a 7-4 won over Farmingdale. Farmingdale lost to Massapequa 7-5 earlier in the month. They play Port Washington on Saturday. Will they be able to put up some goals or again not execute their offense. Will they be able to hold Ports high scoring offense off the board. Will Port Washington win vs a good opponent. They seem to beat up on weak teams but fold under pressure versus good teams. Their 2 losses are vs North Shore and Southside. Well maybe not that good since Southside is 5-5. Syosset has Massapequa and Port Washington next. Port Washington has Farmingdale, Syosset, and Massapequa. Probably the toughest 3 games in a row of any of the teams in A. Massapequa has Syosset, Oceanside, and Port Washington next. Will Powers get the team to fire on all cylinders. A lot of things will be decided in the next week.

Port should have lost to LV (LV's only loss so far) - LV outplayed them and hit pipe or shot just wide about a dozen and half times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM 11
SE 7

Think you have that backwards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

Making absolute statements is never a smart move. But even if they win a few, it will keep us from knowing how good they match up otherwise. And even with that said, I am firmly against the idea of removing faceoffs from the game after Gs.

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset wth a 7-4 won over Farmingdale. Farmingdale lost to Massapequa 7-5 earlier in the month. They play Port Washington on Saturday. Will they be able to put up some goals or again not execute their offense. Will they be able to hold Ports high scoring offense off the board. Will Port Washington win vs a good opponent. They seem to beat up on weak teams but fold under pressure versus good teams. Their 2 losses are vs North Shore and Southside. Well maybe not that good since Southside is 5-5. Syosset has Massapequa and Port Washington next. Port Washington has Farmingdale, Syosset, and Massapequa. Probably the toughest 3 games in a row of any of the teams in A. Massapequa has Syosset, Oceanside, and Port Washington next. Will Powers get the team to fire on all cylinders. A lot of things will be decided in the next week.

Port should have lost to LV (LV's only loss so far) - LV outplayed them and hit pipe or shot just wide about a dozen and half times.

Since Port won the game I feel that they should have scored more because they hit the pipe and missed a lot of opportunities themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the ONLY three games. Nassau A is the weakest conference. Look who they play. That conference is a joke.

So which conference is not a joke? B with GC and Manhasset? Then who? Maybe South Side, Really tough conference. C has CSH and LV, then who? Give it a rest fella. A has at least Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa and Port. Plus Oceanside can give a game as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the ONLY three games. Nassau A is the weakest conference. Look who they play. That conference is a joke.

So which conference is not a joke? B with GC and Manhasset? Then who? Maybe South Side, Really tough conference. C has CSH and LV, then who? Give it a rest fella. A has at least Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa and Port. Plus Oceanside can give a game as well.

sarcasm with oceanside ?

CSH -6 over LV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset wth a 7-4 won over Farmingdale. Farmingdale lost to Massapequa 7-5 earlier in the month. They play Port Washington on Saturday. Will they be able to put up some goals or again not execute their offense. Will they be able to hold Ports high scoring offense off the board. Will Port Washington win vs a good opponent. They seem to beat up on weak teams but fold under pressure versus good teams. Their 2 losses are vs North Shore and Southside. Well maybe not that good since Southside is 5-5. Syosset has Massapequa and Port Washington next. Port Washington has Farmingdale, Syosset, and Massapequa. Probably the toughest 3 games in a row of any of the teams in A. Massapequa has Syosset, Oceanside, and Port Washington next. Will Powers get the team to fire on all cylinders. A lot of things will be decided in the next week.

Port should have lost to LV (LV's only loss so far) - LV outplayed them and hit pipe or shot just wide about a dozen and half times.

Since Port won the game I feel that they should have scored more because they hit the pipe and missed a lot of opportunities themselves.

Port had nowhere near as many as LV - LV had a definitive advantage in possession and shots. Both Goalies were good, and yes I know Goalies always take credit for the pipe and misses, but that's more of an inside joke than true, both in lacrosse and hockey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Pegua has a new head coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Massapequa doesn't have a new head coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Massapequa doesn't have a new head coach.

So your saying Coach Powers isn't the new head coach? Lol.

I couldn't agree more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Massapequa doesn't have a new head coach.

The current head coach listed is just the coach on paper. Powers is the new head coach there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Massapequa doesn't have a new head coach.

The current head coach listed is just the coach on paper. Powers is the new head coach there.

"have to have a plowhorse mentality gentelmen"...GP

Port Haters? is there such a group? what's to hate? Maybe people from Port are haters, haters of losing so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port will lose to FD, SYO and Massapequa... closest game will be FD but they will lose all 3.

It's interesting about how this was a discussion about multiple teams and the Port haters just jump on. From what I know Farmingdale has lost to both Syosset and Massapequa. They are in desperation mode. If they don't beat Port they are in big trouble. I would also say they have a lot more to lose than Port does in the game on Saturday. Is Syosset performing up to expectations, How about Massapequa with their new head coach. Are they really performing as everyone had hoped. Let's see what happens when all the chips are on the table and who is standing at the end of the season. Good luck to everyone in this crucial part of the season.

Pegua has a new head coach?

not in title, but yes they do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port Haters? is there such a group? what's to hate? Maybe people from Port are haters, haters of losing so much.

I think Port is 9-2 on the season. Seems to be a bit more winning than losing.

39-19 overall 26-8 over in conference over the past 4 years with this season being partially played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

You do realize a procedure penalty is statistically a lost faceoff?

Nassau A today is Pequa, Syo.... then Port.... then Dalers. haters or not. Will that change next week, maybe but Dalers can only be 3rd at best. 3rd or 4th best, no thank you ill go with Ricky Bobby, if your not 1st your last!

9-2.. how many quality wins? would you say... Looks like the winner of the Port Fdale game will have the 3 spot, unless port wash runs the table. Be nice to have 4 good teams in the Conference instead of the 2 usual. Good Luck this week.

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

Why would you say that, I think they know each team is gunning for them.

What's going on at SWR. Rewind a few years and heads would be rolling. Could they be looking at 2014 again. Maybe a 6 loss season and no playoffs. What's going on thought that was supposed to be a high powered offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's going on at SWR. Rewind a few years and heads would be rolling. Could they be looking at 2014 again. Maybe a 6 loss season and no playoffs. What's going on thought that was supposed to be a high powered offense.

Lax power score may have been wrong. Newsday reported them winning 13-6 yesterday over a pretty strong Rocky Point team. If anyone was at game please confirm, or set score straight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

and you're a moron

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's going on at SWR. Rewind a few years and heads would be rolling. Could they be looking at 2014 again. Maybe a 6 loss season and no playoffs. What's going on thought that was supposed to be a high powered offense.

Lax power score may have been wrong. Newsday reported them winning 13-6 yesterday over a pretty strong Rocky Point team. If anyone was at game please confirm, or set score straight.

Sectionxi has the score as 13-6 SWR with the win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

I like Port. There is no better way to finish up a nice steak dinner than enjoying some Port.

Oh wait, they play lacrosse in Port? Really? I thought they folded the program 2 years ago after JF graduated and the Head Coach bailed on the Team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

Why would you say that, I think they know each team is gunning for them.

Other way around, teams in front don't gun for the team behind them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

I like Port. There is no better way to finish up a nice steak dinner than enjoying some Port.

Oh wait, they play lacrosse in Port? Really? I thought they folded the program 2 years ago after JF graduated and the Head Coach bailed on the Team.

Which HC coach bailed?

Who coaches Port now? I know Rooney is in the Hills. They still have a team, their football team folded. Imagine going to a HS without a football team, what is this world coming to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

I like Port. There is no better way to finish up a nice steak dinner than enjoying some Port.

Oh wait, they play lacrosse in Port? Really? I thought they folded the program 2 years ago after JF graduated and the Head Coach bailed on the Team.

Which HC coach bailed?

"T"eddy "R"osevelt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port is in for a rude awaking next 3 games.

I like Port. There is no better way to finish up a nice steak dinner than enjoying some Port.

Oh wait, they play lacrosse in Port? Really? I thought they folded the program 2 years ago after JF graduated and the Head Coach bailed on the Team.

Which HC coach bailed?

"T"eddy "R"osevelt

Bring back Ken Case from retirement!

Port has had 3 coaches in the last few years. 1. was let go 2. ran for the hills. 3. Was given the job because no one else wanted it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port has had 3 coaches in the last few years. 1. was let go 2. ran for the hills. 3. Was given the job because no one else wanted it.

sounds like a Dominic's effect

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just looked at newsday stats for curiosity.mp has about 121 goals with about 102 assists.as opposed to mt Sinai with about81 goals and about 35 assists. 121/102. Vs 81/35. Just very curious. I guess mp doesn't believe in any one taking it to the cage and scoring.

We all know that some of reporting can be wrong through minor mistakes by Newsday and or coaches and a game with more assists than goals is clearly a mistake. To accuse coaches of pading is not right, in this day and age it is not practical for anyone to do that and I do not believe it's a fair accusation. In one of the posts someone said they reviewed film- I wish they would reference exactly what they are talking about and post film. Making slanderous claims to people's integrity is wrong. I must say the various claims made me curious, I reviewed a few random team stats and found it interesting
Miller Place 82% of goals come with assists- I did see them play one game and they pass the ball very well-they also have 7 double digit goal scorers. Cold Spring Harbor 73% assist ratio- 4 double digit goal scorers. Shoreham 65% assist ratio-4 double digit goal scorers. Smithtown East 60% assist-6 double digit goal scorers.Mt Sinai 56% assist ratio- 4 double digit goal scorers.

Not sure what this math proves about claims of padding, but 7 double digit goal scorers would relate to a high assist total, proves they move the ball. CSH and MP play similiar styles so it reasons they would be close in assist %

Originally Posted by laxdad76

Originally Posted by Anonymous

just looked at newsday stats for curiosity.mp has about 121 goals with about 102 assists.as opposed to mt Sinai with about81 goals and about 35 assists. 121/102. Vs 81/35. Just very curious. I guess mp doesn't believe in any one taking it to the cage and scoring.

We all know that some of reporting can be wrong through minor mistakes by Newsday and or coaches and a game with more assists than goals is clearly a mistake. To accuse coaches of pading is not right, in this day and age it is not practical for anyone to do that and I do not believe it's a fair accusation. In one of the posts someone said they reviewed film- I wish they would reference exactly what they are talking about and post film. Making slanderous claims to people's integrity is wrong. I must say the various claims made me curious, I reviewed a few random team stats and found it interesting
Miller Place 82% of goals come with assists- I did see them play one game and they pass the ball very well-they also have 7 double digit goal scorers. Cold Spring Harbor 73% assist ratio- 4 double digit goal scorers. Shoreham 65% assist ratio-4 double digit goal scorers. Smithtown East 60% assist-6 double digit goal scorers.Mt Sinai 56% assist ratio- 4 double digit goal scorers.

Not sure what this math proves about claims of padding, but 7 double digit goal scorers would relate to a high assist total, proves they move the ball. CSH and MP play similiar styles so it reasons they would be close in assist %

Certain towns pad stats... look at some of the "powerhouse" A teams that leave starters in to score the 18th goal against a crappy team. Now that kid will get an award for playing a crap schedule and racking up goals in a game where he should have been out at halftime. Same goes for defense ground ball stats.. you know what teams I'm talking about. Some coaches set certain kids up for what they want the outcome to be.

Quid Pro Quo. Pay to Play. Whatever you want to call it. Welcome to Nassau A! You know what town!!! Money talks. And being able to hide the money has its advantages also.

You are obviously from MP. Your math is wrong. Assist % for Mp is 84. Mt Sin 44%. That's almost twice as much. CSH-68%. That's still a large difference. Maybe they do assist on 84% of their goals--that would be awesome lacrosse. Just gets your facts correct. Be proud that they look to make that extra pass, not apologetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quid Pro Quo. Pay to Play. Whatever you want to call it. Welcome to Nassau A! You know what town!!! Money talks. And being able to hide the money has its advantages also.

I have no idea what you are typing about, please be less cryptic you are anonymous so have at it

Miller place played my sons team 3/25 and beat us pretty good. They scored 19 goals. I just went and looked at the newsday stats and wouldn't you know it--they had 19 assists. Come on. I don't have video but I would be willing to bet there were not 19 actual assist.just my two cents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quid Pro Quo. Pay to Play. Whatever you want to call it. Welcome to Nassau A! You know what town!!! Money talks. And being able to hide the money has its advantages also.

I have no idea what you are typing about, please be less cryptic you are anonymous so have at it

I think he meant to say "Squid Pro Quo", so he's obviously talking about Massapequa.

He must be a Conspiracy Theorist. Wooooooo.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quid Pro Quo. Pay to Play. Whatever you want to call it. Welcome to Nassau A! You know what town!!! Money talks. And being able to hide the money has its advantages also.

I have no idea what you are typing about, please be less cryptic you are anonymous so have at it

Squid pro ro

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

You do realize a procedure penalty is statistically a lost faceoff?

I do, but thanks for your little pearl of wisdom. Are you saying that the only faceoff that LV will win is if CSH commits a procedure penalty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

You do realize a procedure penalty is statistically a lost faceoff?

I do, but thanks for your little pearl of wisdom. Are you saying that the only faceoff that LV will win is if CSH commits a procedure penalty?

Yes

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Pequa was just the better team today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Agreed, He'll never learn. Does the same thing year after year - it's coaching 101. Hot day, cold day, rainy day... Kids need to catch their breath and get a drink . Same reason he hasn't won states w all the talent that syo has had over the years . Goes w the same 10 only and runs them into the ground. His only plan is run the first line only whether it's working or not. There's a reason that college coaches run at least 2 midfield lines etc- fresh legs would make a big difference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LV will not win a single faceoff against CSH this year.

You do realize a procedure penalty is statistically a lost faceoff?

I do, but thanks for your little pearl of wisdom. Are you saying that the only faceoff that LV will win is if CSH commits a procedure penalty?

Yes

Heard they won 3 or 4 - not that that's anywhere near enough to get a team into a game...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here we go Nassau, things will be sorted out shortly.
Syo vs Dalers today then Pequa Friday. Ports games next week.
Newsday has GC losing a game in conference, I dont see it, Syo isnt in their conference.
Lets see what happens in the Hewlt game tomorrow.
LV and CSH Friday not sure how much this game means, beside bragging rights for a few weeks. Hope it is close and nothing is gained from it. Will make rematch even better.

Sect XI Div 2 has a lot to be excited about. Both Div 1 and Div 2 have about 6 schools that could win it all. Why is Islip only ranked 4th by Sect power rankings? Div 2 should be a fun to watch. Not sure on how Div 2 is split up for playoff though, B/C/D qualifiers? Not really sure who is B/C/D any more.

Although i said there were 6 teams, I think the top 2 in Div 1 are WM and SE, they play on Thursday. Similar to the LV vs CSH game, not sure I want much of anything to come out of this game. I want to see them both in the Suffolk finals. The other 4 have a slight chance if they get a run going into playoffs. What happend to Bayshore? Could they surprise today or was it the weak early schedule that was a farse.

The LV - CSH game will likely be dictated at the X, and as much as it pains me to say, with Ricciardi still there, it makes it tough for LV. LV was able to beat CSH in their regular season matchup last year, but Bonn made adjustments and the LV fogo was beaten up by the time of the Nassau C finals, and LV really never had enough possession to be in that game. When possession is more balanced, these two teams are more equal than you might think.

Last year CSH lost by a single goal in a regular season, very chippy, sloppy, emotional "bragging rights" game. Hats off to LV. But Please don't make excuses for the absolute 17-8 schooling that CSH put on LV in the playoffs.

As for this year, we have different opinions on the "more equal" thing but the teams will speak for themselves this Friday night.

LV never had the ball in the finals last year - it was all about the X. And LV was up by 2 or 3 in the regular season game until CSH scored a couple late Gs. And I agree that CSH took some very undisciplined penalties, especially late in the game. To me they were bad enough that were I Bonn, those players would have been riding the bench the next game. We shall see Friday night - if the faceoffs are closer to even than not, I expect a close game either way. But fully expect that they will see each other again in the C finals.

CSH completely outclassed LV tonight. Not even close. Won 90+ % of face-offs and controlled game from the start to the 14-6 finish
LV spent the afternoon talking smack at their JV game vs CSH too. That was also a 17-2 lesson in humility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Agreed, He'll never learn. Does the same thing year after year - it's coaching 101. Hot day, cold day, rainy day... Kids need to catch their breath and get a drink . Same reason he hasn't won states w all the talent that syo has had over the years . Goes w the same 10 only and runs them into the ground. His only plan is run the first line only whether it's working or not. There's a reason that college coaches run at least 2 midfield lines etc- fresh legs would make a big difference

Let's not forget that this coach had the best team in Class A on LI in 2015 and the best team in Nassau Class A in 2016. Chill out a bit... Let's see what happens in May.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Agreed, He'll never learn. Does the same thing year after year - it's coaching 101. Hot day, cold day, rainy day... Kids need to catch their breath and get a drink . Same reason he hasn't won states w all the talent that syo has had over the years . Goes w the same 10 only and runs them into the ground. His only plan is run the first line only whether it's working or not. There's a reason that college coaches run at least 2 midfield lines etc- fresh legs would make a big difference

Talking about coaching 101, why did Pequa make Radomski the titular head coach and bring in Powers to really run the team? Is it because Radomski is such a great coach?

Agreed Syosset should have let JC go!!! His defensive coach is a moron!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Agreed, He'll never learn. Does the same thing year after year - it's coaching 101. Hot day, cold day, rainy day... Kids need to catch their breath and get a drink . Same reason he hasn't won states w all the talent that syo has had over the years . Goes w the same 10 only and runs them into the ground. His only plan is run the first line only whether it's working or not. There's a reason that college coaches run at least 2 midfield lines etc- fresh legs would make a big difference

Let's not forget that this coach had the best team in Class A on LI in 2015 and the best team in Nassau Class A in 2016. Chill out a bit... Let's see what happens in May.

You are correct this coach at Syosset did have the best TEAM in 15' and 16' the only misstep in 15' regular season play was subbing out the goalie in the first Pequa game causing a 7-6 loss and even a goalie switch in 14' county finals losing only 6-4 at half only to allow the 2nd half to be disastrous. Syosset has been blessed with numerous big time players in the prior 2 campaigns don't bother comparing these current players to the past 2 years. Syosset 15/16 was blessed much like Pequa in 13/14 with great talent and lacrosse IQ. Yesterdays matchup looked like a JV game compared with those prior teams.

How many teams go to playoff in suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed Syosset should have let JC go!!! His defensive coach is a moron!!!

Maybe JC should have brought in Coach Powers. That was the best coaching move Radomski has done in 3 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watched SYO get schooled by Pequa online, they should have never brought back the coach. Who doesn't sub players on the first hot day. The SYO players looked gassed. Same old story, coaching is deplorable. What type of defense do they run, never seen such a chaotic organization. There is such thing as a side line, give the players a rest, you can't keep running the same horses over and over, they need a break.

Agreed, He'll never learn. Does the same thing year after year - it's coaching 101. Hot day, cold day, rainy day... Kids need to catch their breath and get a drink . Same reason he hasn't won states w all the talent that syo has had over the years . Goes w the same 10 only and runs them into the ground. His only plan is run the first line only whether it's working or not. There's a reason that college coaches run at least 2 midfield lines etc- fresh legs would make a big difference

Let's not forget that this coach had the best team in Class A on LI in 2015 and the best team in Nassau Class A in 2016. Chill out a bit... Let's see what happens in May.

You are correct this coach at Syosset did have the best TEAM in 15' and 16' the only misstep in 15' regular season play was subbing out the goalie in the first Pequa game causing a 7-6 loss and even a goalie switch in 14' county finals losing only 6-4 at half only to allow the 2nd half to be disastrous. Syosset has been blessed with numerous big time players in the prior 2 campaigns don't bother comparing these current players to the past 2 years. Syosset 15/16 was blessed much like Pequa in 13/14 with great talent and lacrosse IQ. Yesterdays matchup looked like a JV game compared with those prior teams.

Whatever you say Kaptain Kangaroo.

It's 2017, time to move on from 2014 and 2015.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed Syosset should have let JC go!!! His defensive coach is a moron!!!

Maybe JC should have brought in Coach Powers. That was the best coaching move Radomski has done in 3 years.

Isn't Powers a Massapequa guy. Why would he go to Syosset. Could you imagine Powers and JC on the same sideline.

JV game, you are a loser.

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Truth be told neither team looked good and JV is right. Pequa has 3 or so soph starting and doing well. Syo has a few. Yes, I agree a JV team. Good call.

How does the Pequa fogo against Smith West fogo. That will be a battle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Agree.

And 3 goals really... The last goal was a cheap no class goal. Just like what Pequa did vs Farmingdale. That's the Pequa way!

No class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Thanks Syosset dad for acknowledging that your son plays on a JV team, masquerading as a varsity team, [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Thanks Syosset dad for acknowledging that your son plays on a JV team, masquerading as a varsity team, [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Thanks Syosset dad for acknowledging that your son plays on a JV team, masquerading as a varsity team, [lacrosse]!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Thanks Syosset dad for acknowledging that your son plays on a JV team, masquerading as a varsity team, [lacrosse]!

Whatever you white trash piece of sh.t!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only saw one JV team at the Pequa/Syosset game, they were wearing white and red.

Ok pequa dad then your varsity team only beat JV team by 4 goals . What tool bag!!!

Thanks Syosset dad for acknowledging that your son plays on a JV team, masquerading as a varsity team, [lacrosse]!

Chill out Mr. Massapequa. Your team won a league game, not the Nassau Class A Championship. As of today Syosset is the 2X Nassau County Class A Champion. Massapequa has won 2 out of 5 games in that time period. Get over yourself.

Yes all of the kids 50 points have been no class, you are a jealous fing loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes all of the kids 50 points have been no class, you are a jealous fing loser.

Dude, get a grip... Ur slurring your words.

Talking about the cheap empty net goals at the end of the Farmingdale game and Syosset game.

Take a nap.

Honestly enjoying the banter between two outstanding HS programs, but think Mr. Syosset should chill until they actually win a state title. I think Mr. Pequa would agree.

Hey, Syosset dads relax and keep your pants on, oh wait you don't do that. Hahahahaha you [lacrosse]holes. Snob souchebags, see you in the playoffs, #2 seed

Thanks for knocking the most classless people in Nassau down a notch Pequa! Bunch of racist losers who can't keep their boys in pants. Money certainly doesn't buy class or pants! Too bad Syosset [lacrosse]holes, racist no class trash. Coward daddy's hahahahaha

Well this past week was interesting for Nassau Lax
CSH spanked LV 14-6
Pequa handles Syosset 8-4
Farmingdale easily beats Port 15-9
Manhasset bears GC in a great Woodstock Classic game 10-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks for knocking the most classless people in Nassau down a notch Pequa! Bunch of racist losers who can't keep their boys in pants. Money certainly doesn't buy class or pants! Too bad Syosset [lacrosse]holes, racist no class trash. Coward daddy's hahahahaha

Sirr,

You need a dictionary and a book on English grammar. Also, get some counseling, It is apparent that you have deep feelings of insecurity over the FACT that Syo put the smackdown on Pequa the last 2 years in the Nassau final.

I just want to take a minute to say what a nice event the Louis Acompora Jamboree was yesterday. Very well run, good atmosphere, and most importantly a great cause and tribute. God Bless the Acompora family.

Ports tough week started yesterday and as many of us predicted Fdale with a pretty easy win.

Syosset--------- Bahahahah! chortle

Pequa -------- Thanks,

Manhassett---------good win

GC-------once again, the box score for a loss is hidden (great pr guy at work)

Ward Melville -------- might be best in Suffolk

West Islip----- Scott will have a dog in the hunt

Cham---- better get ready for Reg's rock

St. Ants-------bus fail? REALLY?

CSH --- alone at the top of LI lax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks for knocking the most classless people in Nassau down a notch Pequa! Bunch of racist losers who can't keep their boys in pants. Money certainly doesn't buy class or pants! Too bad Syosset [lacrosse]holes, racist no class trash. Coward daddy's hahahahaha

Sirr,

You need a dictionary and a book on English grammar. Also, get some counseling, It is apparent that you have deep feelings of insecurity over the FACT that Syo put the smackdown on Pequa the last 2 years in the Nassau final.

When in doubt look to the past. JV, a Syosset daddy said it about his own son. Hahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just want to take a minute to say what a nice event the Louis Acompora Jamboree was yesterday. Very well run, good atmosphere, and most importantly a great cause and tribute. God Bless the Acompora family.

Couldn't agree more. That event should be an inspiration to us all to focus on what really matters. Be thankful you have a healthy young man that can go out and give his personal best and contribute to a team. Whether he's the #1 player or deep on the roster, be thankful he's out there. On another note: Does anyone know what happen to the youth player that was air lifted from the field? We saw the chopper come in during our HS game. I hope the young man is ok!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset--------- Bahahahah! chortle

Pequa -------- Thanks,

Manhassett---------good win

GC-------once again, the box score for a loss is hidden (great pr guy at work)

Ward Melville -------- might be best in Suffolk

West Islip----- Scott will have a dog in the hunt

Cham---- better get ready for Reg's rock

St. Ants-------bus fail? REALLY?

Um, I'm pretty sure Newsday had a pretty good article on the game. Did you check it today?

Heard SYO defensive coach has never played lacrosse himself and only plays his favorites.

SYO defense was a joke, coaching was pathetic. No wonder Praia scored on you 8 times. It was silent on the field guess SYO d doesn't need to talk they're THAT good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard SYO defensive coach has never played lacrosse himself and only plays his favorites.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard SYO defensive coach has never played lacrosse himself and only plays his favorites.

That is true if you don't get in starting line up on defensive side by end of scrimmages you will never crack the line up, unless someone gets hurt. He puts the blinders on and treats the kids like crap!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ports tough week started yesterday and as many of us predicted Fdale with a pretty easy win.

Coaching makes all the difference in the world. Farmingdale was just more disciplined and executed. Port jumped out to a quick 3-0 lead but Farmingdale settled in and just executed the game plan that the coaches drew up. Port just seemed to fall apart and was unable to control the ball. Turn over after turn over. Shot after shot that missed the net without backup. Also shots from 20 yards out that resulted in easy saves for our goalie. Once the playoffs start it's a clean slate. Let's go Dalers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset--------- Bahahahah! chortle

Pequa -------- Thanks,

Manhassett---------good win

GC-------once again, the box score for a loss is hidden (great pr guy at work)

Ward Melville -------- might be best in Suffolk

West Islip----- Scott will have a dog in the hunt

Cham---- better get ready for Reg's rock

St. Ants-------bus fail? REALLY?

Um, I'm pretty sure Newsday had a pretty good article on the game. Did you check it today?

Sorry, show us the box score.
You can't it's not there. Article aside, nice for manhassett- you will never see the GC box score on a day after a loss. Fake news machine at work.

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset--------- Bahahahah! chortle

Pequa -------- Thanks,

Manhassett---------good win

GC-------once again, the box score for a loss is hidden (great pr guy at work)

Ward Melville -------- might be best in Suffolk

West Islip----- Scott will have a dog in the hunt

Cham---- better get ready for Reg's rock

St. Ants-------bus fail? REALLY?

Um, I'm pretty sure Newsday had a pretty good article on the game. Did you check it today?

Sorry, show us the box score.
You can't it's not there. Article aside, nice for manhassett- you will never see the GC box score on a day after a loss. Fake news machine at work.

So GC controls Newsday? The winning coach is responsible for posting stats. Looks like the Manhasset machine at work, on a side note, I'm investing in tin foil hats, looks like the market is on the upswing.

Mt. Sinai....95 goals, 53 assists - that equals 56%. CSH when I did this post had 136 goals and 100 assists 74%. PS - not from MP , just do not enjoy slanderous claims - all the teams that are mentioned play good lacrosse in their own right. Different styles

Was there a box score after St. Ignacious? - no.

Was there a box score after Manhassett? -no

GC won't deal with any negativity.

Oh yeah, Syossett loss made everyone's weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset--------- Bahahahah! chortle

Pequa -------- Thanks,

Manhassett---------good win

GC-------once again, the box score for a loss is hidden (great pr guy at work)

Ward Melville -------- might be best in Suffolk

West Islip----- Scott will have a dog in the hunt

Cham---- better get ready for Reg's rock

St. Ants-------bus fail? REALLY?

Um, I'm pretty sure Newsday had a pretty good article on the game. Did you check it today?

Sorry, show us the box score.
You can't it's not there. Article aside, nice for manhassett- you will never see the GC box score on a day after a loss. Fake news machine at work.

So GC controls Newsday? The winning coach is responsible for posting stats. Looks like the Manhasset machine at work, on a side note, I'm investing in tin foil hats, looks like the market is on the upswing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH --- alone at the top of LI lax?

Nassau maybe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYO defense was a joke, coaching was pathetic. No wonder Praia scored on you 8 times. It was silent on the field guess SYO d doesn't need to talk they're THAT good.

Sure Pal.

Based upon what you are saying, Pequa should have scored 20 on Syo... So, I guess only 7 goals (let's not count the cheap empty net goal with 20 seconds left) against Syo either means that Pequa Offense is weak or Syo Defense is good. I'll let you decide.5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYO defense was a joke, coaching was pathetic. No wonder Praia scored on you 8 times. It was silent on the field guess SYO d doesn't need to talk they're THAT good.

Sure Pal.

Based upon what you are saying, Pequa should have scored 20 on Syo... So, I guess only 7 goals (let's not count the cheap empty net goal with 20 seconds left) against Syo either means that Pequa Offense is weak or Syo Defense is good. I'll let you decide.5

You got it buddy, Pequa O was weak and Syosset D was great! But.....still lost, convincingly. I'll let you decide that. Why did Syosset pull their goalie? You tell everyone....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Long Island will go through WM, agree.

Dalers over Port, good job. Port has the tough week now. Wouldn't want to play Syo after that bomb of a game. Does Port have a complete game in them for the next 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Long Island will go through WM, agree.

WM beat East by 1 at home, so we'll see. Will be interesting

Fun events that make me smile (in the last 6 months)

Unwrapping Christmas presents

Hillary Clinton trying to deal with loosing the election

Syosset parents trying to deal with a loss to Pequa

[quote=Anonymous]Fun events that make me smile (in the last 6 months)

Unwrapping Christmas presents

Hillary Clinton trying to deal with loosing the election

Syosset parents trying to deal with a loss to Pequa

And the Port coach switching goalies at the half of a 2 goal game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Long Island will go through WM, agree.

WM beat East by 1 at home, so we'll see. Will be interesting

East beat Pequa by one...................so that should be interesting as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

Not a Port family, but those at the game will question and be Monday morning qbs. Why the halftime change. Newsday doesnt have the stats nor do they detail some of the stats by halfs but those at the game know. The game was big but not a playoff game. The coach is either the genius or idiot.

All 4 top teams are beatable but will it pan out they way it is today.
Pequ
Syo
Dalers
Port

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

Yet evolution seems to have gone backwards in certain towns when their lacrosse teams lose. Syosset get over it. You lost to Massapequa. They were the better team. Teams will win and lose its sport. These are kids people, kids! Why do we attack them. Why do you anonymously attack them on this site. Does it make you feel better about yourself or your kid. If that's the case you are really pathetic. When a team loses they lose as a team. It seems the parents want to place blame on one of the units or individuals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

That's it Commack is the team to beat!! Good job.

The GC conspiracy guy makes my day. You do knkw the winning coach posts the results.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

That's it Commack is the team to beat!! Good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Port family, but those at the game will question and be Monday morning qbs. Why the halftime change. Newsday doesnt have the stats nor do they detail some of the stats by halfs but those at the game know. The game was big but not a playoff game. The coach is either the genius or idiot.

All 4 top teams are beatable but will it pan out they way it is today.
Pequ
Syo
Dalers
Port

what was the final score? what was the half time score? do you have saves by halves? has the coach been switching goalies every game at half time? was it a goalie that got pulled or was it a goalie switch? which is a big difference. This is a lot more interesting than than the name calling going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

That's it Commack is the team to beat!! Good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Port family, but those at the game will question and be Monday morning qbs. Why the halftime change. Newsday doesnt have the stats nor do they detail some of the stats by halfs but those at the game know. The game was big but not a playoff game. The coach is either the genius or idiot.

All 4 top teams are beatable but will it pan out they way it is today.
Pequ
Syo
Dalers
Port

what was the final score? what was the half time score? do you have saves by halves? has the coach been switching goalies every game at half time? was it a goalie that got pulled or was it a goalie switch? which is a big difference. This is a lot more interesting than than the name calling going on.

Lax Power says 15-9 is that correct?

How is Commack the team to beat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

That's it Commack is the team to beat!! Good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Port family, but those at the game will question and be Monday morning qbs. Why the halftime change. Newsday doesnt have the stats nor do they detail some of the stats by halfs but those at the game know. The game was big but not a playoff game. The coach is either the genius or idiot.

All 4 top teams are beatable but will it pan out they way it is today.
Pequ
Syo
Dalers
Port

what was the final score? what was the half time score? do you have saves by halves? has the coach been switching goalies every game at half time? was it a goalie that got pulled or was it a goalie switch? which is a big difference. This is a lot more interesting than than the name calling going on.

Lax Power says 15-9 is that correct?

Yes that is correct
Farmingdale scored 7 in 1st half and 8 in
Port Scored 5 in 1st and 4 in 2nd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYO defense was a joke, coaching was pathetic. No wonder Praia scored on you 8 times. It was silent on the field guess SYO d doesn't need to talk they're THAT good.

Sure Pal.

Based upon what you are saying, Pequa should have scored 20 on Syo... So, I guess only 7 goals (let's not count the cheap empty net goal with 20 seconds left) against Syo either means that Pequa Offense is weak or Syo Defense is good. I'll let you decide.5

You got it buddy, Pequa O was weak and Syosset D was great! But.....still lost, convincingly. I'll let you decide that. Why did Syosset pull their goalie? You tell everyone....

Easy answer, so a Pequa could get a (cheap) goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Commack the team to beat?

Little bit of humor pal, don't get too serious here.

What happened during the Port game? Changed the goalies at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Doesn't look like Nassau A can compete with Suffolk A. So who will get off the Island? And who will be state champs? Upstate teams are also looking good.

Pequa beat Syosset, Smithtown East beat Pequa, WM beat East. Hmmmmmm?

Massapequa lost to Smithtown East
Smithtown East lost to Commack
Commack lost to Northport
Northport lost to Syosset
Syosset lost to Massapequa

Hmmmmmmmm? The Circle of Life, seems like lots of good teams can all play competitively with each other....except CSH #BTOLI

That's it Commack is the team to beat!! Good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Port family, but those at the game will question and be Monday morning qbs. Why the halftime change. Newsday doesnt have the stats nor do they detail some of the stats by halfs but those at the game know. The game was big but not a playoff game. The coach is either the genius or idiot.

All 4 top teams are beatable but will it pan out they way it is today.
Pequ
Syo
Dalers
Port

what was the final score? what was the half time score? do you have saves by halves? has the coach been switching goalies every game at half time? was it a goalie that got pulled or was it a goalie switch? which is a big difference. This is a lot more interesting than than the name calling going on.

Lax Power says 15-9 is that correct?

Yes that is correct
Farmingdale scored 7 in 1st half and 8 in
Port Scored 5 in 1st and 4 in 2nd.[/quote]

Pretty balanced on the Dalers vs Port.

Manhasset taking care of what they have to. Looking forward to the Chaminade game, still wished GC would play Chaminade. Will Hewlette put another check in the left column for GC. For some reason I am looking forward to that one more than the SWR game. Although the GC game could give life to the quiet SWR Season. Lets see what happens after Miller Place. Im predicting many more assists than expected.

Can anybody confirm Suffolk A will only be 11 teams and not 12in Playoffs? Suffolk A mid tier teams not sure how Whitman and Bay Shore are above Sachem North. (in both lax power and Section Xi). Can Pat Med win 3 of the last 4? Sachem North has to split the next 4. (one of the games is SN vs PM). Bay Shore can they beat Pat Med as one of the 2 must wins out of the last 4. Pat Med can create their own destiny, last 2 games at home against teams they will need to Leap frog. Whitman may come down to power points. Anyone say play-in game for Whitman. This part of the ranking is the fun part.

Section xi what algorithm to you have where Smithtown West is ranked over Smithtown East? Is it as cray as me thinking the next Chamy SA game will be close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened during the Port game? Changed the goalies at half?

Yes coach pulled the 1st half goalie. What is the issue. If a goalie isn't playing well he might get pulled. Get over it. Coach made a decision.

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

A post above says the score was 8-5 at half, was anybody at the game and can tell us what the score at the half was? also a big difference in pulling a goalie vs. changing goalies. Have they done this in the past or is the kid that started the game the regular full time goalie? How many saves did he have in addition to giving up 8 or 9?

The team gave up 69 goals in their first 11 games ( 6.27 GAA) so eight or nine in the first half was a lot for them and maybe the coach just felt the kid just didn't have it that day. It will be interesting to see what they do this week facing a couple of good teams and if they play one or two goalies. Port has gone the previous five years with the same kid in goal, it is a luxury that few towns have ever enjoyed .

Good luck this week Port, could be a great week for you

Both teams have two loses. But, East lost to Commack and WM and West lost to SE and WM. SE lost more points for losing to a lower ranked team.

Correction to my post-the score was 7-5 at the half. And the person who posted the coach made a goalie change must not understand lacrosse or is the replacement goalie's family member.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

The Farmingdale goalie faced the same sun. Stop with excuses all goalies faced the same sun. He got pulled it's not the end of the world. Stop making excuses for everything. Its the suns fault, the wind. LoL. One let up 7 and the other 8. Not that big of a difference. How did the rest of the team do? Did they finish? How many shots did they miss? How many unforced turnovers. How many ground balls? It's more than just goalies on the field. Watch the video and maybe you will see why Port lost. It's a lot more than the way the goalies played. Both goalies for Port played fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

Did you just say it was the suns fault the 1st half goalie got pulled. So because he let a few soft goals in its the suns fault. Mom, please stay off the site. I beg you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correction to my post-the score was 7-5 at the half. And the person who posted the coach made a goalie change must not understand lacrosse or is the replacement goalie's family member.

So one goalie let up 7 and another let the other 8. Not a big difference. Farmingdale won the game plain and simple. You lost thats it. The team lost not one player. I was at the game and to try and blame either goalie is ridiculous.You probably never played a sport in your life. When people blame goalies it shows a complete lack of knowledge. How about Farmingdale deserves some credit for playing better. It's that simple.

changing goalie wasn't the reason Port lost. Port lost because Fdale is a better team. Nothing to do with coach either, you have a good coach you just got beat by a better team.

But who won head to head matchup?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

changing goalie wasn't the reason Port lost. Port lost because Fdale is a better team. Nothing to do with coach either, you have a good coach you just got beat by a better team.

Not a port parent, and i agree the dalers are the better team. I also agree the goalies didnt lose the game, teams lose the game. I still question the move. Like it was said earlier either genius or idiotic. Any sports idiot savant or jock knows what is being said. I see it different, if you played sports you would know what I was saying.

I happen to think it was a genius move lets see how it pans out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

The Farmingdale goalie faced the same sun. Stop with excuses all goalies faced the same sun. He got pulled it's not the end of the world. Stop making excuses for everything. Its the suns fault, the wind. LoL. One let up 7 and the other 8. Not that big of a difference. How did the rest of the team do? Did they finish? How many shots did they miss? How many unforced turnovers. How many ground balls? It's more than just goalies on the field. Watch the video and maybe you will see why Port lost. It's a lot more than the way the goalies played. Both goalies for Port played fine.

I hate the sun excuse as much as I hate rationalizing anything. But and this is a big BUTT (think Loquischa's at the Chinese buffet), Sun matters and the sun isnt in the same spot, correction the earth isnt in the same spot. We all know the fields that this effects more than others and the timing can effect this more so. What time was this game?

me, I am glad there is something to look forward to. The Pequa Syosset was quite underwhelming, Dalers have a shot at redemption.

Changing goalies is sometimes common practice. Look at SYO over the years. Depending on what parents have influence with the coach those are the ones that play. Doesn't matter whose better. If coach wants to make a change for playing reasons.... good for him. Time to care is when kid never gets a chance because daddy or mommy don't help with the booster club!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

changing goalie wasn't the reason Port lost. Port lost because Fdale is a better team. Nothing to do with coach either, you have a good coach you just got beat by a better team.

I think the term TEAM is what Port needs to focus on. Farmingdale played like a team Port did not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The question is not how many goals were scored in the first half compared to the second half of the Port-Farmingdale game. It is how does a coach/coaching staff pull a goalie with the score at the half 9-7 Farmingdale knowing that in the second quarter their goalie was facing the sun? A smart, knowledgeable coach would keep the starting goalie in. Port needs to reevaluate their coaching staff if they plan on ever making it to the next round of playoffs!!!!

The Farmingdale goalie faced the same sun. Stop with excuses all goalies faced the same sun. He got pulled it's not the end of the world. Stop making excuses for everything. Its the suns fault, the wind. LoL. One let up 7 and the other 8. Not that big of a difference. How did the rest of the team do? Did they finish? How many shots did they miss? How many unforced turnovers. How many ground balls? It's more than just goalies on the field. Watch the video and maybe you will see why Port lost. It's a lot more than the way the goalies played. Both goalies for Port played fine.

I hate the sun excuse as much as I hate rationalizing anything. But and this is a big BUTT (think Loquischa's at the Chinese buffet), Sun matters and the sun isnt in the same spot, correction the earth isnt in the same spot. We all know the fields that this effects more than others and the timing can effect this more so. What time was this game?

me, I am glad there is something to look forward to. The Pequa Syosset was quite underwhelming, Dalers have a shot at redemption.

It was a night game started at 6pm. Tge Farmingdale goalie played whole game and faced the same sun as Ports 1st half goalie. It actually got worse as the game went a long. Not hearing any excuses from the Farmingdale goalie he made the saves he had to make regardless of the sun especially when it was directly in his eyes during the third qtr. Excuses are for losers and that's what Port are a bunch of cry baby losers. Let's go Dalers. Clean slate for playoffs.

Big games this week some having more meaning for certain teams.

Tues Port at Syosset
Wed Massapequa vs Chaminade
Hills East vs Ward Melville
Fri Port at Massapequa

Originally Posted by America's Game

Big games this week some having more meaning for certain teams.

Tues Port at Syosset
Wed Massapequa vs Chaminade
Hills East vs Ward Melville
Fri Port at Massapequa

Not really, the winner will be:

Cham
WM
Pequa

And I'm sure about that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Changing goalies is sometimes common practice. Look at SYO over the years. Depending on what parents have influence with the coach those are the ones that play. Doesn't matter whose better. If coach wants to make a change for playing reasons.... good for him. Time to care is when kid never gets a chance because daddy or mommy don't help with the booster club!!

OK, Kaptain Kankaroo....

Whatever you say.

Forgot the Syosset win, Would it even be a question? Leagues are not as deep as some people hope.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgot the Syosset win, Would it even be a question? Leagues are not as deep as some people hope.

So what would you say are the top teams on Long Island . Rank them. Let's keep the privates out of it.

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Didn't Syosset beat GC ? Shouldn't they b ranked higher ?

Syosset at 4 (beat Gc)
GC at 5
Wantagh at 7 (beat Southside who beat Port)
Southside at 8
Port 9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Didn't Syosset beat GC ? Shouldn't they b ranked higher ?

This is one persons opinion dude, not a real ranking. Who cares, I think the Jets are the best football team too, doesn't make it a fact. Open a paper and read some real news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Didn't Syosset beat GC ? Shouldn't they b ranked higher ?

This is one persons opinion dude, not a real ranking. Who cares, I think the Jets are the best football team too, doesn't make it a fact. Open a paper and read some real news.

Come on... CSH only has 2 kids that are great. Once you shut them down, is it a competitive team? YxUZfY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Didn't Syosset beat GC ? Shouldn't they b ranked higher ?

This is one persons opinion dude, not a real ranking. Who cares, I think the Jets are the best football team too, doesn't make it a fact. Open a paper and read some real news.

Come on... CSH only has 2 kids that are great. Once you shut them down, is it a competitive team? YxUZfY

Seems like they're a pretty complete team to me. Doesn't their record speaks for itself. They seem to have beaten some pretty good team

Finally, the box score from the GC - Manhassett game is posted in newsday.

GC media control --- fake news --- Act as if the loss did not happen then post the details days later when the bad news is old.

Classic Clinton/Obama stuff!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally, the box score from the GC - Manhassett game is posted in newsday.

GC media control --- fake news --- Act as if the loss did not happen then post the details days later when the bad news is old.

Classic Clinton/Obama stuff!

You really have issues. GCs game received full coverage in an article by Newsday. The score came later as did other teams that played on a Saturday night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SYO defense was a joke, coaching was pathetic. No wonder Praia scored on you 8 times. It was silent on the field guess SYO d doesn't need to talk they're THAT good.

Sure Pal.

Based upon what you are saying, Pequa should have scored 20 on Syo... So, I guess only 7 goals (let's not count the cheap empty net goal with 20 seconds left) against Syo either means that Pequa Offense is weak or Syo Defense is good. I'll let you decide.5

You got it buddy, Pequa O was weak and Syosset D was great! But.....still lost, convincingly. I'll let you decide that. Why did Syosset pull their goalie? You tell everyone....

Easy answer, so a Pequa could get a (cheap) goal.

You're right, but Syosset still got beat, and beat pretty damn bad. Matter of fact the game was in hand by the half. I actually saw a group of Syosset dad's crying in the parking lot as I was leaving. They were pretty damn hysterical, one of them had snot running down his face and the other guy well he was rolling around the ground calling for his mommy and saying "cheap goal, cheap goal" oh smack, now I know who you are.

Just for the record...the winning team calls in the scores to Newsday.

Also for the record, Newsday scores is only open Mon-Sat from 430pm-10pm.

My guess is Manhasset coach couldnt call in the score until monday after practice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally, the box score from the GC - Manhassett game is posted in newsday.

GC media control --- fake news --- Act as if the loss did not happen then post the details days later when the bad news is old.

Classic Clinton/Obama stuff!

You really have issues. GCs game received full coverage in an article by Newsday. The score came later as did other teams that played on a Saturday night.

So, the article was fit to print but the box score was not? OK.

Let's see how quickly the box score is posted after GC's next loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Break up Nassau and Suffolk.....

Nassau "Power Conference":
1) Cold Spring Harbor
2) Manhasset
3) Pequa
4) Garden City
5) Syosset
6) Farmingdale
7) Port Washington
8) South Side
9) Wantagh
10) Locust Valley
11) Lynbrook

It would be like the girls- some 5-5,4-6,3-7 Records...BRUISER games....but guarantees everyone plays top schools. There isn't 1 deep league, all are shallow but it gives schools like Syo a chance to play some of their 40+ kids in blow outs. Not sure what's better....

Didn't Syosset beat GC ? Shouldn't they b ranked higher ?

This is one persons opinion dude, not a real ranking. Who cares, I think the Jets are the best football team too, doesn't make it a fact. Open a paper and read some real news.

Come on... CSH only has 2 kids that are great. Once you shut them down, is it a competitive team? YxUZfY

Seems like they're a pretty complete team to me. Doesn't their record speaks for itself. They seem to have beaten some pretty good team

GC should be 6/7 everyone else moves up one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally, the box score from the GC - Manhassett game is posted in newsday.

GC media control --- fake news --- Act as if the loss did not happen then post the details days later when the bad news is old.

Classic Clinton/Obama stuff!

You really have issues. GCs game received full coverage in an article by Newsday. The score came later as did other teams that played on a Saturday night.

So, the article was fit to print but the box score was not? OK.

Let's see how quickly the box score is posted after GC's next loss.

What are you not comprehending? The score gets called in by the winning team. Newsday posted other scores late that were played on Saturday night.

But they have a great public relations firm...... a lot of publicity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But they have a great public relations firm...... a lot of publicity

Who is "they" tin hat guy?

Here is a little pre-scouting for the Syo v PW game today - start time is 5:15 - field faces north/south so sun should not be a factor,for the goalies, only the fans on the east side stands. The game time temperature should be 55 degrees with a light wind (up to 20 MPH) from the northwest. natural grass in pretty good condition. This should be a no excuses game for both teams, just show up and play with whatever 10 players the coach puts on the field.

[quote=Anonymous]Here is a little pre-scouting for the Syo v PW game today - start time is 5:15 - field faces north/south so sun should not be a factor,for the goalies, only the fans on the east side stands. The game time temperature should be 55 degrees with a light wind (up to 20 MPH) from the northwest. natural grass in pretty good condition. This should be a no excuses game for both teams, just show up and play with whatever 10 players the coach puts on the field.

Should be interesting to see what Syo player vying for post season accolades shoots the most. Parents should play a wagering game on it with odds for each player. Player with the worst shooting pct, with a minimum of 10 shots ( shouldn't be hard with these hogs ) gets the "MINEZ" award for I gotta get Minez.

The only one making noise for Port is their Jackass Coach... He got 1 minute unsportsmanlike penalty, a second warning and had to be physically restrained by another coach. He was warned that one more word would result in 3 minute nonreleasable penalty.. Pure class PW! This is the same guy who was cursing at his own players at last year's game at Syosset. Where is the Port AD? The Team and community deserve better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Here is a little pre-scouting for the Syo v PW game today - start time is 5:15 - field faces north/south so sun should not be a factor,for the goalies, only the fans on the east side stands. The game time temperature should be 55 degrees with a light wind (up to 20 MPH) from the northwest. natural grass in pretty good condition. This should be a no excuses game for both teams, just show up and play with whatever 10 players the coach puts on the field.

Should be interesting to see what Syo player vying for post season accolades shoots the most. Parents should play a wagering game on it with odds for each player. Player with the worst shooting pct, with a minimum of 10 shots ( shouldn't be hard with these hogs ) gets the "MINEZ" award for I gotta get Minez.

Syo cannot compete with Pequa..., when it comes to cheap empty net goals. Pequa #1!!!

Who won the game? Is pw taking their medicine or complaining about the weather or their own coach. Forget the ad where is the booster club, grow some balls up there

I wonder what team your on, could be a Pequa parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little pre-scouting for the Syo v PW game today - start time is 5:15 - field faces north/south so sun should not be a factor,for the goalies, only the fans on the east side stands. The game time temperature should be 55 degrees with a light wind (up to 20 MPH) from the northwest. natural grass in pretty good condition. This should be a no excuses game for both teams, just show up and play with whatever 10 players the coach puts on the field.

It was the grass. Port has not played on grass. That's why they lost. Also the other team shot it too hard at the goalie and it wasn't fair. Let's hear the excuses now Port. Face it you lost to the better team. It's that plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little pre-scouting for the Syo v PW game today - start time is 5:15 - field faces north/south so sun should not be a factor,for the goalies, only the fans on the east side stands. The game time temperature should be 55 degrees with a light wind (up to 20 MPH) from the northwest. natural grass in pretty good condition. This should be a no excuses game for both teams, just show up and play with whatever 10 players the coach puts on the field.

It was the grass. Port has not played on grass. That's why they lost. Also the other team shot it too hard at the goalie and it wasn't fair. Let's hear the excuses now Port. Face it you lost to the better team. It's that plain and simple.

The port fogo got to the game after 1 quarter. Port was down 6-1. After he got there ot was a much closer 3 qrts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only one making noise for Port is their Jackass Coach... He got 1 minute unsportsmanlike penalty, a second warning and had to be physically restrained by another coach. He was warned that one more word would result in 3 minute nonreleasable penalty.. Pure class PW! This is the same guy who was cursing at his own players at last year's game at Syosset. Where is the Port AD? The Team and community deserve better.

Anonymous stirs the pot with wrong info....1) a Port player received the 1 minute unsportsmanlike penalty...2) the "warning" was because the coach questioned why the official did not call a high hit on a player. The assistant held back the head because Port was gaining some momentum, and recognized that the official was trying to do anything in his power to maintain some sort of "control." Pretty sure every coach curses, guess you weren't listening to the Syo coach during their loss to Massapequa. Nothin like coaching in 2017!

Waaaaaa, I'm from Syosset and you scored a cheap goal, waaaaaaaaaaaaa, cry bravey would be a more appropriate name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the game? Is pw taking their medicine or complaining about the weather or their own coach. Forget the ad where is the booster club, grow some balls up there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the game? Is pw taking their medicine or complaining about the weather or their own coach. Forget the ad where is the booster club, grow some balls up there

Really?? Where were your balls when your coach made your kids leave without their uniforms on?? What about when he made the team chant "(insert player name) has a mangina" ?? Or how about when he calls a kid a "fat piece of s**t". where is the Syo AD?? Oh that's right you're booster club takes care of it. Guess when you pay all that money for your kid to play then you let all that stuff slide. Stay classy Syosset!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only one making noise for Port is their Jackass Coach... He got 1 minute unsportsmanlike penalty, a second warning and had to be physically restrained by another coach. He was warned that one more word would result in 3 minute nonreleasable penalty.. Pure class PW! This is the same guy who was cursing at his own players at last year's game at Syosset. Where is the Port AD? The Team and community deserve better.

Stat lady Dorothy with the daggers! Tell us how you really feel!

score in port syo game?

Now that's funny!!! Talk about a community deserving better! You let your kids go home without their clothes on! Somehow you justify it or deny it. Either way it's pathetic! Actually ... you deserve each other! Any parent that lets their kids be treated that way has NO right to comment on another town. Syosset has everyone beaten hands down or should I say PANTS down!

Port is just slow playing, setting a bear-trap for Pequa later this week. They did not want to tip their hand against F-Dale and Syo.

SMART!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that's funny!!! Talk about a community deserving better! You let your kids go home without their clothes on! Somehow you justify it or deny it. Either way it's pathetic! Actually ... you deserve each other! Any parent that lets their kids be treated that way has NO right to comment on another town. Syosset has everyone beaten hands down or should I say PANTS down!

Port making some Noise!

Just not on the field.

Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that's funny!!! Talk about a community deserving better! You let your kids go home without their clothes on! Somehow you justify it or deny it. Either way it's pathetic! Actually ... you deserve each other! Any parent that lets their kids be treated that way has NO right to comment on another town. Syosset has everyone beaten hands down or should I say PANTS down!

So, should we infer that PW Parents are on board with their coach's behavior on the field? Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the game? Is pw taking their medicine or complaining about the weather or their own coach. Forget the ad where is the booster club, grow some balls up there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the game? Is pw taking their medicine or complaining about the weather or their own coach. Forget the ad where is the booster club, grow some balls up there

Really?? Where were your balls when your coach made your kids leave without their uniforms on?? What about when he made the team chant "(insert player name) has a mangina" ?? Or how about when he calls a kid a "fat piece of s**t". where is the Syo AD?? Oh that's right you're booster club takes care of it. Guess when you pay all that money for your kid to play then you let all that stuff slide. Stay classy Syosset!!

We spanked you today like Farmingdale did the other day and the way Massapequa will next week. Port makes excuses for everything. Last game it was the sun in your goalies eyes. Today your Fogo came late. I was at the game and if he went 50% when he got there I would say that I was being kind. What else is it going to be.. Can't blame anyone why you lost..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

score in port syo game?

Syo won easily and could have run up the score, but did not. Most reserve kids got PT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that's funny!!! Talk about a community deserving better! You let your kids go home without their clothes on! Somehow you justify it or deny it. Either way it's pathetic! Actually ... you deserve each other! Any parent that lets their kids be treated that way has NO right to comment on another town. Syosset has everyone beaten hands down or should I say PANTS down!

Port making some Noise!

Just not on the field.

Syosset and Port deserve each other a bunch of the Vineyard Vine wearing pompous tools. It seems like their coaches are cut from the same cloth. All they do is berate and belittle players. What happened yesterday port. Can't blame anyone but the starters. Always looking for an excuse. Just like Syosset did versus Massapequa.

The conditions were perfect for you to win that game but it's not the conditions of the field or the sun. It's the score that determines the game. Your coach played the starters, no changes were made at half and you still loat by 6. Whis to blame now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

Syosset parents, please refrain from commenting on class, you allowed your sons to walk home almost nude! You then betrayed your sons and took the coaches side. The mental anguish those poor young men must be enduring is heartbreaking. To think the hatred and disgust they must feel towards their parents. God have mercy on your souls. Oh yeah, and buy your kids some shorts you losers hahahaha ha, NEVER gets old!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

Can't wait to hear the excuses after the Pequa game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

Can't wait to hear the excuses after the Pequa game.

The response was about the kid cursing and parents laughing remark. Yes the coach got a technical after the ref did not call the cross check to the head of a port kid by a certain large player. And not making any excuses for the loss.

What's with all the Port support here - they barely beat LV in week 1 (and probably should have lost that game)????!

Says the ignorant fool or child that probably played or watched that game. These comments have to be coming from kids. Could any adult in there right mind post any of these shameless remarks ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Says the ignorant fool or child that probably played or watched that game. These comments have to be coming from kids. Could any adult in there right mind post any of these shameless remarks ?

100% a Syosset parent would make comments like this, they have proven to be the lowest common form on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

--no ones making excuses. The port coach did not get a tehincal, a player on the bench did. The coach WAS restrained, as the ref warned him because he argued a non-call....same ref sat on syossets bench during halftime. No need to make things up, like excuses. Syossets a very good team! And their coach gets a lot of his players. But refs look afraid to make calls against syo coach too!

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Best thing for Port to do is to fold their Lax team citing concussion risk. That will allow them to save face.

Port can then focus on crew.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

--no ones making excuses. The port coach did not get a tehincal, a player on the bench did. The coach WAS restrained, as the ref warned him because he argued a non-call....same ref sat on syossets bench during halftime. No need to make things up, like excuses. Syossets a very good team! And their coach gets a lot of his players. But refs look afraid to make calls against syo coach too!

False.

Syo got hit with a 2 minute non-releasable... Port held possession on that call for about 25 seconds and converted zero goals.

Gotta work on the EMO play. No excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best thing for Port to do is to fold their Lax team citing concussion risk. That will allow them to save face.

Port can then focus on crew.

Is there a fundraiser or special event at Shoreham Wading River on Saturday for the game vs. Garden City?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

How could you tell the Syosset Kids had compression shorts on, wasn't the sun in your eyes?

Good luck vs Pequa. The only thing I feel bad about is that Port will get eliminated in the Playoffs by Pequa and thus Syo will not get another practice game in vs Port before the Nassau finals. You know that Syo was trying out some new offense yesterday in the 1st half, before clearing the bench to let the reserve kids get some PT in the 2nd half, right? The game was not serious at all after the 1st quarter. Good try, better luck next year. I bet your 2020's and 2021's are amazing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

Anyone know the score of the Pequa Chaminade game

WM triple OT win to Hills East. Could have gone either way leaving Suffolk wide open

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the score of the Pequa Chaminade game

Chammy 7
Pequa 5

As per Joe L.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

--no ones making excuses. The port coach did not get a tehincal, a player on the bench did. The coach WAS restrained, as the ref warned him because he argued a non-call....same ref sat on syossets bench during halftime. No need to make things up, like excuses. Syossets a very good team! And their coach gets a lot of his players. But refs look afraid to make calls against syo coach too!

False.

Syo got hit with a 2 minute non-releasable... Port held possession on that call for about 25 seconds and converted zero goals.

Gotta work on the EMO play. No excuses.

the non call that the Port coach was upset about was a different play than the 2 Minute non releasable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

Start buying your sons new panties you loser! You're embarrassed about that, but hey your son and his $hit stained underwear being exposed to the whole town is okay? Once again, Syosset parents show their true colors, freaking losers, sooooooooooooo pathetic. You do know your kid despises you for not taking care of him right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

How could you tell the Syosset Kids had compression shorts on, wasn't the sun in your eyes?

Good luck vs Pequa. The only thing I feel bad about is that Port will get eliminated in the Playoffs by Pequa and thus Syo will not get another practice game in vs Port before the Nassau finals. You know that Syo was trying out some new offense yesterday in the 1st half, before clearing the bench to let the reserve kids get some PT in the 2nd half, right? The game was not serious at all after the 1st quarter. Good try, better luck next year. I bet your 2020's and 2021's are amazing!

Really? You pathetic loser, they had stains all over them, your wife should learn to do the laundry better and more often. Maybe then the poor boys would have something to wear. Embarrassing yourself trying to deflect from the truth, your sons walked home in their underwear. So very sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME WALK HOME IN MY UNDIES, YOU'RE EMBARRASSING ME!!!! only difference is one of those conversations actually happened, the other is a fantasy. Want to guess which one??

Great game

Kid was dodging on man up, coach tell him to do that.?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

--->sounds like you should coach. Let's hear your gameplan for ports game Friday vs Pequa? Please enlighten us with your expertise and wherewithal when it comes to Port lacrosse and their personnel....or maybe the reason you feel so strongly about their coach? Did he yell at your kid too loud?

Wow North Babylon a one point game against Whitman, Sachem be careful we all thought North Bab was a cake walk. or at least i did. Sachem North will finally leap frog Bay Shore for points and moving them to 12 and Bay Shore to 13. Sachem has melville and Smith east tough but dont think they will lose their spot because of those losses. Bay Shore has to beat Patchouge and West Islip, West Islip may need the game for a better position, not looking good for BS. Lindy sitting pretty.

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 10-0-0 10-2-0 167.360
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-4-0 153.730
Smithtown East 8-2-0 9-3-0 149.090
H H Hills East 9-2-0 10-2-0 144.990
Commack HS 7-3-0 8-4-0 134.630
West Islip 7-3-0 9-3-0 132.810
Connetquot 7-3-0 8-4-0 119.400
Riverhead 7-4-0 9-4-0 118.940
Northport 6-5-0 7-6-0 115.380
Lindenhurst 6-4-0 6-6-0 108.400
Walt Whitman 5-6-0 6-7-0 105.200 (tonight games are not include they will be .500, they will have to keep an eye on Sachem North)

Bay Shore 5-5-0 7-5-0 101.740 (can they leap frog Whitman)
Sachem North 5-5-0 7-5-0 100.940 (not sure how they are behind BS they just beat them, they will lose to a higher ranked opponent than Bay Shore will lose to)
Patchogue-Medford 6-4-0 7-5-0 98.490 (today's loss hurts because they shouldnt be able to leap frog Sachem North)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kid was dodging on man up, coach tell him to do that.?

What game are you referring to?

Hey Port Booster Club,

Buy your goalie some RayBans quick, before the Pequa game, Maybe that will help.

Oh, and spend some money on Coaching.

Good Luck,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Port needs a lesson on having class
Parents show less class then their coach. A port kid ran off the field after committing a penalty and yells about the :&;&;$$. Ref for all to hear and the Coach and parents just laugh. Kids obviously learning life's lessons from parents We all saw similar action from fans cursing out syo superstar attackman in last years playoff embarrassment. Stop embarrassing you kids and community

The Port parents were not laughing and neither was the coach. Both sets of parents cheered for their teams and there was no drama in the stands. No need to bash entire communities and make up stories.

So, you didn't see the Port Coach get a technical? You didn't see him get reprimanded by the Ref and then being physically restrained? You must have been at the JV game I guess, it's probably hard to tell based on how PW plays.

--no ones making excuses. The port coach did not get a tehincal, a player on the bench did. The coach WAS restrained, as the ref warned him because he argued a non-call....same ref sat on syossets bench during halftime. No need to make things up, like excuses. Syossets a very good team! And their coach gets a lot of his players. But refs look afraid to make calls against syo coach too!

False.

Syo got hit with a 2 minute non-releasable... Port held possession on that call for about 25 seconds and converted zero goals.

Gotta work on the EMO play. No excuses.

the non call that the Port coach was upset about was a different play than the 2 Minute non releasable.

Thanks Capt. Obvious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME WALK HOME IN MY UNDIES, YOU'RE EMBARRASSING ME!!!! only difference is one of those conversations actually happened, the other is a fantasy. Want to guess which one??

Let me guess.... The fantasy one where Port can actually win a game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

--->sounds like you should coach. Let's hear your gameplan for ports game Friday vs Pequa? Please enlighten us with your expertise and wherewithal when it comes to Port lacrosse and their personnel....or maybe the reason you feel so strongly about their coach? Did he yell at your kid too loud?

Wow!

We now have a Port Parent vs. Port Parent battling it out on BOTC.

At least one of the Ports will finally win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME WALK HOME IN MY UNDIES, YOU'RE EMBARRASSING ME!!!! only difference is one of those conversations actually happened, the other is a fantasy. Want to guess which one??

Let me guess.... The fantasy one where Port can actually win a game?

Pretty certain every Syosset parent wishes it were a fantasy that there sons had to make the walk of shame, unfortunately it's true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

best thing i have heard on here in a long time. coach plays his starters the entire game. even if they are up by more than 10 goals. makes zero sense. no potential for team growth

Should be interesting and competitive come playoff time in Suffolk "A".

Watched WM vs HHH E yesterday, very competitive game. Smithtown East and West will compete for the championship as well. Looks like another down year for West Islip. Commack is a little inconsistent but they are a good team as well and can challenge. Anyone else ready to make a run?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

--->sounds like you should coach. Let's hear your gameplan for ports game Friday vs Pequa? Please enlighten us with your expertise and wherewithal when it comes to Port lacrosse and their personnel....or maybe the reason you feel so strongly about their coach? Did he yell at your kid too loud?

Hmmm. that's a tough one. I got it.......How about play better and score more goals than Pequa.........I think that works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

It is not the coaches fault! Port does not have the horses this year. It is as simple as that. Trust me. If PW gets rid of Coach Neal, who else are you going to get?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

--->sounds like you should coach. Let's hear your gameplan for ports game Friday vs Pequa? Please enlighten us with your expertise and wherewithal when it comes to Port lacrosse and their personnel....or maybe the reason you feel so strongly about their coach? Did he yell at your kid too loud?

Wow!

We now have a Port Parent vs. Port Parent battling it out on BOTC.

At least one of the Ports will finally win!

Nah, they would find away to screw that up also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port really has no leg to stand on after the Syosett loss. Their coaching is failing them and their biggest win was over Locust Valley in a game which, without their goalie (the one who played the first half versus Farmingdale in sun-gate), they might've lost. Hopefully after this Pequa game they either put up, or no excuses are made. Best of luck to both of those teams from a neutral spectator.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head.The coach is horrible. He has been making mistakes all season with personnel. He also has no leg to stand on with the players because he does not follow through on disciplinary actions that he personally imposed. He needs to shake things up. Been sticking with certain players that have folded like cheap suits in tough games. He also has given a certain player way too many chances when they have been on a short leash from the first game of the season. He has been the topic of many comments on this thread. The character of the team follows that of the coach. If a coach is not willing to cut ties to a player that has caused problems all season and caused more harm than good to the team, what does that say about the coach. He is weak of character. We all have also seen the way the coach and player act during games.

--->sounds like you should coach. Let's hear your gameplan for ports game Friday vs Pequa? Please enlighten us with your expertise and wherewithal when it comes to Port lacrosse and their personnel....or maybe the reason you feel so strongly about their coach? Did he yell at your kid too loud?

Just have all of your starters wear sunglasses. That will help with sun glare and will let them hide their tears after the 3rd beatdown in a row.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

Start buying your sons new panties you loser! You're embarrassed about that, but hey your son and his $hit stained underwear being exposed to the whole town is okay? Once again, Syosset parents show their true colors, freaking losers, sooooooooooooo pathetic. You do know your kid despises you for not taking care of him right?

You are a nasty woman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow North Babylon a one point game against Whitman, Sachem be careful we all thought North Bab was a cake walk. or at least i did. Sachem North will finally leap frog Bay Shore for points and moving them to 12 and Bay Shore to 13. Sachem has melville and Smith east tough but dont think they will lose their spot because of those losses. Bay Shore has to beat Patchouge and West Islip, West Islip may need the game for a better position, not looking good for BS. Lindy sitting pretty.

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 10-0-0 10-2-0 167.360
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-4-0 153.730
Smithtown East 8-2-0 9-3-0 149.090
H H Hills East 9-2-0 10-2-0 144.990
Commack HS 7-3-0 8-4-0 134.630
West Islip 7-3-0 9-3-0 132.810
Connetquot 7-3-0 8-4-0 119.400
Riverhead 7-4-0 9-4-0 118.940
Northport 6-5-0 7-6-0 115.380
Lindenhurst 6-4-0 6-6-0 108.400
Walt Whitman 5-6-0 6-7-0 105.200 (tonight games are not include they will be .500, they will have to keep an eye on Sachem North)

Bay Shore 5-5-0 7-5-0 101.740 (can they leap frog Whitman)
Sachem North 5-5-0 7-5-0 100.940 (not sure how they are behind BS they just beat them, they will lose to a higher ranked opponent than Bay Shore will lose to)
Patchogue-Medford 6-4-0 7-5-0 98.490 (today's loss hurts because they shouldnt be able to leap frog Sachem North)

top 5 get a bye so not sure it matters from there.
Wouldnt want to get West Islip / Connetquot / Northport first round. Suffolk A looks good for the top 8. Wouldnt it be great if top 8 of Nassau played top 8 of Suffolk

Northport is definitely 2nd tier from the big boys, but they have played competitive in all there games. Never know who shows up. The team that best Commack, or the one that just lost to East.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset parents should recite this line from the Godfather: "Fredo, you're my older brother, and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever" Just exchange Fredo for DAD and older brother for father and it fits perfect!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In Syosset we prefer to quote Shakespeare:

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Just exchange Brutus for "PORT Parents".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (seriously....)

Don't even...you let your poor sons walk home in their underpants and now you make fun of it? Can you get any lower? How embarrassing, for the boys and more so for the parents of these poor young men. Shameless, and you should change underlings to underpants. HAHAHAHAHAHA, seriously.

Holy crap mom!!!!! "Don't even" and "undepants" in the same comment. No you didn't. Lol.

MOOOOOOOM PLEASE STOP GOING ON BACK OF THE CAGE, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!!!!

Start buying your sons new panties you loser! You're embarrassed about that, but hey your son and his $hit stained underwear being exposed to the whole town is okay? Once again, Syosset parents show their true colors, freaking losers, sooooooooooooo pathetic. You do know your kid despises you for not taking care of him right?

You are a nasty woman.

Thanks, well at least your wife has a set of B@LLS, cause you sure don't. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Make sure the boys have pants on when they leave school!!!!! They hate you because you won't defend them, Judas to your own child! Must be brimming with pride dad.

Some great games were played yesterday.

Chaminade beating Massapequa 7-5

Ward Melville beating Half Hollow Hills East in 4 overtimes 8-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow North Babylon a one point game against Whitman, Sachem be careful we all thought North Bab was a cake walk. or at least i did. Sachem North will finally leap frog Bay Shore for points and moving them to 12 and Bay Shore to 13. Sachem has melville and Smith east tough but dont think they will lose their spot because of those losses. Bay Shore has to beat Patchouge and West Islip, West Islip may need the game for a better position, not looking good for BS. Lindy sitting pretty.

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 10-0-0 10-2-0 167.360
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-4-0 153.730
Smithtown East 8-2-0 9-3-0 149.090
H H Hills East 9-2-0 10-2-0 144.990
Commack HS 7-3-0 8-4-0 134.630
West Islip 7-3-0 9-3-0 132.810
Connetquot 7-3-0 8-4-0 119.400
Riverhead 7-4-0 9-4-0 118.940
Northport 6-5-0 7-6-0 115.380
Lindenhurst 6-4-0 6-6-0 108.400
Walt Whitman 5-6-0 6-7-0 105.200 (tonight games are not include they will be .500, they will have to keep an eye on Sachem North)

Bay Shore 5-5-0 7-5-0 101.740 (can they leap frog Whitman)
Sachem North 5-5-0 7-5-0 100.940 (not sure how they are behind BS they just beat them, they will lose to a higher ranked opponent than Bay Shore will lose to)
Patchogue-Medford 6-4-0 7-5-0 98.490 (today's loss hurts because they shouldnt be able to leap frog Sachem North)

top 5 get a bye so not sure it matters from there.
Wouldnt want to get West Islip / Connetquot / Northport first round. Suffolk A looks good for the top 8. Wouldnt it be great if top 8 of Nassau played top 8 of Suffolk

'Quot suffers from bad coaching. Its unfortunate.

Lets move this conversation back to where it belongs, Nassau with the blue bloods. Just to reiterate, again, Manhasset owns GC on and off the field. We may just keep that stick for a while-pass it around to the varsity, jv, alums and PAL...Hasta La Vista, baby.

Port Mom,

You are like a wind up toy...

Take some of that energy and frustration and get out with ur son and have a lax catch with him, or teach him how to scoop a ground ball instead of making excuses.

Go Port!

Syosset Dad,

You are like an adult toy......

Take your son to a Port game and show him a real man instead of humiliating him by letting his legs get cold walking home without pants.

Go Braves! (Except the dads)

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

One of those smaller Indians' attack played club ball with many of the Chaminade defensive guys.....those big defensive guys couldn't stop him in practice.

You mean the kid that always comes back to his left and shoots low when he turns the corner? A game is different than practice my friend!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

FYI, just played you, 2 of your starting attack are small.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI, just played you, 2 of your starting attack are small.

Aaaand what position do you play?

And the MHS defense is even smaller!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

All three Chaminade teams will win at Reg's Rock match ups this Saturday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

All three Chaminade teams will win at Reg's Rock match ups this Saturday.

Only two games tomorrow. MHS doesn't have a freshman team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

are you the coach? weird of you asking tips on how to play with your team on a public forum. did the fathers not have any input?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

All three Chaminade teams will win at Reg's Rock match ups this Saturday.

Only two games tomorrow. MHS doesn't have a freshman team.

Chaminade freshman play John Jay at home early.

Different subject. Since the season is winding down, does anyone know how individual honors such as all Conference, County and American are chosen? Seems to be a mystery and wondering if it goes by teams record, individual accomplishments or a combination.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Different subject. Since the season is winding down, does anyone know how individual honors such as all Conference, County and American are chosen? Seems to be a mystery and wondering if it goes by teams record, individual accomplishments or a combination.

It's a function of how much a kids parents contribute to the Lax Booster Program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

All three Chaminade teams will win at Reg's Rock match ups this Saturday.

Only two games tomorrow. MHS doesn't have a freshman team.

Chaminade freshman play John Jay at home early.

Did Cham Frosh play WM JV? How did that go? I know a few kids on both teams whose Dad's think they're superstars.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Different subject. Since the season is winding down, does anyone know how individual honors such as all Conference, County and American are chosen? Seems to be a mystery and wondering if it goes by teams record, individual accomplishments or a combination.

Which publics have an office in Newsday

Anyone know the Massapequa / Port Washington score from Friday's game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the Massapequa / Port Washington score from Friday's game?

They play today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the Massapequa / Port Washington score from Friday's game?

It looks like the game was rescheduled to today due to the weather. Unfortunately, the sunny ski may effect the outcome of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the Massapequa / Port Washington score from Friday's game?

It looks like the game was rescheduled to today due to the weather. Unfortunately, the sunny ski may effect the outcome of the game.

And you cannot spell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know the Massapequa / Port Washington score from Friday's game?

It looks like the game was rescheduled to today due to the weather. Unfortunately, the sunny skies may effect the outcome of the game.

And you cannot spell

Pequa13
PW 6

(No spelling necessary. Go get yourself some cheap sunglasses. PW riding a 3 game losing streak. Don't worry, the season will be over for PW soon, then you can take the boys out sailing.)

If you don't know just say so. Was looking for an honest response.

PW/Pequa game was good. PW did well. Pequa was better. Decent game

Boring game.

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Why a 1 goal loss to a great team. [lacrosse]

The refs bailed them out Wednesday

I am a [lacrosse] how many games have you lost?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Two mediocre years in a row doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things. Should they always be expected to go undefeated playing the schedules they do?

2, and all our kids have the same zip code.

On a All Long Island team Cham and St A would have one starter.

And I will put on some expensive sunglasses and watch you clean my pool !!

Sayville? How do you fools like the coaching change now? We experienced great success under Coach Doller but malcontents forced the BoD to make a change. Are you guys happy now?

For the last 3 years all the talk from the 2018 group, was move the kids up they are all D1 superstars. So I think they thought they be undefeated.

What?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Two mediocre years in a row doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things. Should they always be expected to go undefeated playing the schedules they do?

Look no one is saying that St. A's and Cham are not both very good teams. I think most people now, just see them as just another strong team on LI. Not some National powerhouses. Losing to multiple publics year in and year out is not the sign of a National Contender. Sorry, you have a good team. That's it, a good team. Top 5 on LI for Cham, and Top 10 on LI for St A's. In the words of Bill Parcels: "you are what your record says you are".

I occasionally read this stuff but my man you are a tool !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And I will put on some expensive sunglasses and watch you clean my pool !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And I will put on some expensive sunglasses and watch you clean my pool !!

I guess so since PW already had their clock's cleaned, 3X in a row!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Two mediocre years in a row doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things. Should they always be expected to go undefeated playing the schedules they do?

Look no one is saying that St. A's and Cham are not both very good teams. I think most people now, just see them as just another strong team on LI. Not some National powerhouses. Losing to multiple publics year in and year out is not the sign of a National Contender. Sorry, you have a good team. That's it, a good team. Top 5 on LI for Cham, and Top 10 on LI for St A's. In the words of Bill Parcels: "you are what your record says you are".

Come on man, you must be cashing in you $2 bet and always dreaming. These programs are perennial programs. They are here to stay.a public beating them here and there does not change that.

Throw these two into Nassua or Suffolk A and they win each year. Of course you will have some stories program contend or get lighting in a bottle with families that stay in town. But come on, they are still national powers.

Really keep in mind u both have open boarders, combine the best from Syo, Farmingdale and Pequa. Then see what kind of game it would be. Same with Suffolk .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Two mediocre years in a row doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things. Should they always be expected to go undefeated playing the schedules they do?

Look no one is saying that St. A's and Cham are not both very good teams. I think most people now, just see them as just another strong team on LI. Not some National powerhouses. Losing to multiple publics year in and year out is not the sign of a National Contender. Sorry, you have a good team. That's it, a good team. Top 5 on LI for Cham, and Top 10 on LI for St A's. In the words of Bill Parcels: "you are what your record says you are".

Come on man, you must be cashing in you $2 bet and always dreaming. These programs are perennial programs. They are here to stay.a public beating them here and there does not change that.

Throw these two into Nassua or Suffolk A and they win each year. Of course you will have some stories program contend or get lighting in a bottle with families that stay in town. But come on, they are still national powers.

Wow, that's not very good grammar! Less stick, more book

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's safe to say, the days of Chaminade and ST A, being a powerhouse in lacrosse are over.

Two mediocre years in a row doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things. Should they always be expected to go undefeated playing the schedules they do?

Look no one is saying that St. A's and Cham are not both very good teams. I think most people now, just see them as just another strong team on LI. Not some National powerhouses. Losing to multiple publics year in and year out is not the sign of a National Contender. Sorry, you have a good team. That's it, a good team. Top 5 on LI for Cham, and Top 10 on LI for St A's. In the words of Bill Parcels: "you are what your record says you are".

Most years (obviously not this one), the better of the two teams will be (and should be) in the top 2-3 on Long Island and the top ~15 or so in the country.

So should be the best public programs on the Island in that particular year -- it's just that the CHSAA powers are a bit more consistent due to their "reloadable" natures as Catholic schools that draw lots of kids. None of this is particularly controversial.

The Best Schools on LI this year are Smithtown East and Ward Melville. East kid will get player of the year.

Manhasset beat Chaminade on Saturday 8-7. Must be the coaching. Thus team has no where the fire power it had last year and it's beat g some of the teams it list to last year.

word on the street is that 5 WHB boys lacrosse players were arrested. they were not suspended for even one game. wow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Best Schools on LI this year are Smithtown East and Ward Melville. East kid will get player of the year.

I'd certainly take Cold Spring Harbor over both of those schools.

Probably Chaminade and Manhasset as well.

Well Port Washington how have the past 3 games gone for you. You are 0-3 during the most important stretch of the season. You were out played, out scored, and out coached in every game. You made excuses for the first loss and even the second loss. What happened during the third loss. Weather was perfect no sun in your eyes and it was on a great artificial surface. See you in the playoffs and your usual exit in the semi finals. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the last 3 years all the talk from the 2018 group, was move the kids up they are all D1 superstars. So I think they thought they be undefeated.

I believe this person is talking about Chaminade and it's recent loss to Manhasset. All the talk was how good their 2018 class is and how they should have been moved up early to Varsity last year. Well it seems that their not as good as many have predicted they would be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the last 3 years all the talk from the 2018 group, was move the kids up they are all D1 superstars. So I think they thought they be undefeated.

I believe this person is talking about Chaminade and it's recent loss to Manhasset. All the talk was how good their 2018 class is and how they should have been moved up early to Varsity last year. Well it seems that their not as good as many have predicted they would be.

First time Chaminade parents have been saying this since the 80s.

What in the world is the coach and or AD thinking about at Westhampton??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Best Schools on LI this year are Smithtown East and Ward Melville. East kid will get player of the year.

SE needs to win the LIC for someone on that team to get player of the year. Otherwise that award needs to go to a kid from CSH, especially if CSH 3-peats as NYS Champions.

Se kid gets it. Wm best team, most depth but no individual stud. All very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Best Schools on LI this year are Smithtown East and Ward Melville. East kid will get player of the year.

SE needs to win the LIC for someone on that team to get player of the year. Otherwise that award needs to go to a kid from CSH, especially if CSH 3-peats as NYS Champions.

Battle of the Napoleon daddies? Lol!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the chances for this Saturday's Reg's Rock match up? Saw GC v Manhasset this past week and Manhasset seemed to have some strong attackmen and one particularly strong midfielder (along with some other decent midfielders). But their defense seems undersized, more interested in waving their sticks than feet/body position, and reluctant to be physical. I think that will be an issue against Chaminade and our bigger attackmen. They seem to have only one defender who can deal with size and strength. The reverse is true with our defense on their attack: we will physically dominate the smaller Indians' attack. Any thoughts/comments?

Hey, what position do you play? When one uses the term "we" and "our" I assume that the poster is a member of the team.

All three Chaminade teams will win at Reg's Rock match ups this Saturday.

NOT!

how good is smithtown east

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the last 3 years all the talk from the 2018 group, was move the kids up they are all D1 superstars. So I think they thought they be undefeated.

I believe this person is talking about Chaminade and it's recent loss to Manhasset. All the talk was how good their 2018 class is and how they should have been moved up early to Varsity last year. Well it seems that their not as good as many have predicted they would be.

Junior goalie has not been good. 5 goals on Saturday stick side. Hopefully he has one more growth spurt in him - too many goals over his head all season long. Unfortunately, Duke coaches were in the stands watching - they couldn't have been happy. I think the junior goalie from Massapequa who left Chaminade outplayed him last week as well. They need a clean slate of coaches there - this isn't 1997...

"The Best Schools on LI this year are Smithtown East and Ward Melville. East kid will get player of the year."

"SE needs to win the LIC for someone on that team to get player of the year. Otherwise that award needs to go to a kid from CSH, especially if CSH 3-peats as NYS Champions."

"Battle of the Napoleon daddies? Lol!"

LOL, CSH has 3 of them though, which one?

or 1987...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the last 3 years all the talk from the 2018 group, was move the kids up they are all D1 superstars. So I think they thought they be undefeated.

I believe this person is talking about Chaminade and it's recent loss to Manhasset. All the talk was how good their 2018 class is and how they should have been moved up early to Varsity last year. Well it seems that their not as good as many have predicted they would be.

Junior goalie has not been good. 5 goals on Saturday stick side. Hopefully he has one more growth spurt in him - too many goals over his head all season long. Unfortunately, Duke coaches were in the stands watching - they couldn't have been happy. I think the junior goalie from Massapequa who left Chaminade outplayed him last week as well. They need a clean slate of coaches there - this isn't 1997...

Your kid is sitting isn't he?

Your kid is sitting isn't he?[/quote]

Actually my kid plays - that's why I'm pissed...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your kid is sitting isn't he?

Actually my kid plays - that's why I'm pissed...
[/quote]

Not really believing you, but whatever, if you say so.

your kid plays and you are pissed at the goalie? you are being dishonest. hang in there jasperdaddy

It seems like every grade at Chaminade thinks their the best. So they should make 2 varsity teams. One all juniors, one all seniors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville? How do you fools like the coaching change now? We experienced great success under Coach Doller but malcontents forced the BoD to make a change. Are you guys happy now?

That ship has sailed. We got what we deserved and there is no way to make it right. The landscaper, et al got what they wanted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems like every grade at Chaminade thinks their the best. So they should make 2 varsity teams. One all juniors, one all seniors.

Chaminade is just a big travel team with smart kids and parents with deep pockets...

Stop your Chaminade stereotype...the financial spectrum of the school and its lax team spans the spectrum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems like every grade at Chaminade thinks their the best. So they should make 2 varsity teams. One all juniors, one all seniors.

Chaminade is just a big travel team with smart kids and parents with deep pockets...

Chaminade is far more "economically diverse" (lol) than just about every single strong lacrosse program on Long Island. Let's consider the usual suspects: Manhasset, Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, etc.

The school might be many things, but it's certainly not a rich kids club when compared to its competition here on Long Island.

Nobody here cares about Chaminade! Take it somewhere else so we can discuss the real lacrosse conferences, where a championship that actually matters is at stake. Could give a rats [lacrosse] about these spoiled brats thinking they are relevant. Everyone knows Catholic lacrosse conference is weak as [lacrosse].

Do you not live on Long Island? Are you new to the sport?

Curious how many of the 20+ chaminade senior commits never see the field. And how many more would be spectators if soph and freshman play varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious how many of the 20+ chaminade senior commits never see the field. And how many more would be spectators if soph and freshman play varsity.

It's been like that for a pretty long time, at least since the program really got rolling in the 1990s.

Plenty of 3rd string goalies and the like at Chaminade who ended up playing D1 lacrosse. That's to be expected considering the size and true depth of the team.

plenty of 3rd string goalies playing D1? wow!!! you sure you want to go with that Tex?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody here cares about Chaminade! Take it somewhere else so we can discuss the real lacrosse conferences, where a championship that actually matters is at stake. Could give a rats [lacrosse] about these spoiled brats thinking they are relevant. Everyone knows Catholic lacrosse conference is weak as [lacrosse].

Fact check..........year in year out Chammy and St A play the toughest schedule on LI hand down. Look it up. Spoiled brats?????........hmmmm look at SE, WM, Manhasset, CSH, GC, etc.. think you will find more spoiled players than the catholics combined.....Oh yea.....which public daddy's are gonna buck up to get their kid AA etc. I think we know the answer.

size of roster doesn't automatically translate into depth mom..... the bench would be on the bench at Set, or CSH or GC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

plenty of 3rd string goalies playing D1? wow!!! you sure you want to go with that Tex?

At Chaminade:

Seniors - 1 committed to Manhattan, 1 committed to Wesleyan (turned down D1 offers from lower level D1s), 1 not committed

Juniors - 1 committed to Duke, 1 not committed

Sophomores - 1 committed to Notre Dame, 1 committed to Furman

Freshman - not sure

Only one can play - so this year 2 committed goalies never play and next year 2 committed goalies will never play. Again, a testament to why HS lacrosse doesn't matter that much to college coaches. Now this may change with the new rules but I still don't see college coaches getting to many HS games. It will still be about club...

Catholic Conference is weak. Would love to see any public play their schedules year in and year out. Although I agree playing the same team year after year for Championship seems silly it is what it is. If they were to be added to Public playoffs what conference would you put them in. Or should I say which so called power house would complain they are added. Everyone was talking about how good WM was and they are going to win it all and how good Mass was and they may win it all. Both lost this year. Year in and year out no changes to conferences so same teams beat up on weaker towns and make playoffs

IT IS TIME FOR A SELECTION COMMITTEE TO BE SET UP AND DO IT RIGHT. THESE COACHES THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ANYWAY SO RANK THE TEAMS AND SET UP A PLAYOFF AND HAVE A TRUE CHAMPION OF LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, and all our kids have the same zip code.

So Inbred?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Catholic Conference is weak. Would love to see any public play their schedules year in and year out. Although I agree playing the same team year after year for Championship seems silly it is what it is. If they were to be added to Public playoffs what conference would you put them in. Or should I say which so called power house would complain they are added. Everyone was talking about how good WM was and they are going to win it all and how good Mass was and they may win it all. Both lost this year. Year in and year out no changes to conferences so same teams beat up on weaker towns and make playoffs

IT IS TIME FOR A SELECTION COMMITTEE TO BE SET UP AND DO IT RIGHT. THESE COACHES THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ANYWAY SO RANK THE TEAMS AND SET UP A PLAYOFF AND HAVE A TRUE CHAMPION OF LI

That is not how it works. You play for a state title, and the rest of the state doesn't care about what Chaminade, St Ant's or anyone else on Long Island thinks. There was a time would people understood that a State title was a great accomplishment and did not want to turn it in to the circus you propose. "THE TRUE CHAMPION OF LI"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Catholic Conference is weak. Would love to see any public play their schedules year in and year out. Although I agree playing the same team year after year for Championship seems silly it is what it is. If they were to be added to Public playoffs what conference would you put them in. Or should I say which so called power house would complain they are added. Everyone was talking about how good WM was and they are going to win it all and how good Mass was and they may win it all. Both lost this year. Year in and year out no changes to conferences so same teams beat up on weaker towns and make playoffs

IT IS TIME FOR A SELECTION COMMITTEE TO BE SET UP AND DO IT RIGHT. THESE COACHES THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ANYWAY SO RANK THE TEAMS AND SET UP A PLAYOFF AND HAVE A TRUE CHAMPION OF LI

That is not how it works. You play for a state title, and the rest of the state doesn't care about what Chaminade, St Ant's or anyone else on Long Island thinks. There was a time would people understood that a State title was a great accomplishment and did not want to turn it in to the circus you propose. "THE TRUE CHAMPION OF LI"

Not so sure about that, many of the neighboring states do a tournament of champions. I think NY should add that to their cache of scholastic sports playoffs. Sure Nj and Ct are not Geographically as large (as are the rest of the NE states) but a Championship can be done and would be a great thing for the state. I also think the Sect 8 and 11 playing each other in a "first round" year in and year out is ridiculous.

EAST ISLIP HIGH SCHOOL Team to beat in Suffolk BEAT SWR and Hills West yet no love

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Catholic Conference is weak. Would love to see any public play their schedules year in and year out. Although I agree playing the same team year after year for Championship seems silly it is what it is. If they were to be added to Public playoffs what conference would you put them in. Or should I say which so called power house would complain they are added. Everyone was talking about how good WM was and they are going to win it all and how good Mass was and they may win it all. Both lost this year. Year in and year out no changes to conferences so same teams beat up on weaker towns and make playoffs

IT IS TIME FOR A SELECTION COMMITTEE TO BE SET UP AND DO IT RIGHT. THESE COACHES THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL ANYWAY SO RANK THE TEAMS AND SET UP A PLAYOFF AND HAVE A TRUE CHAMPION OF LI

That is not how it works. You play for a state title, and the rest of the state doesn't care about what Chaminade, St Ant's or anyone else on Long Island thinks. There was a time would people understood that a State title was a great accomplishment and did not want to turn it in to the circus you propose. "THE TRUE CHAMPION OF LI"

That's funny. Quite a few NYS champs come and play Chammy and St A including LI publics and upstate teams. Stop the nonsense. Publics should enjoy their state championship while Chammy and St A get to have their championship and very competitive tri-state schedules because of the scheduling flexibility they have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

EAST ISLIP HIGH SCHOOL Team to beat in Suffolk BEAT SWR and Hills West yet no love

Sorry, all the hype and media attention is reserved for West Islip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow North Babylon a one point game against Whitman, Sachem be careful we all thought North Bab was a cake walk. or at least i did. Sachem North will finally leap frog Bay Shore for points and moving them to 12 and Bay Shore to 13. Sachem has melville and Smith east tough but dont think they will lose their spot because of those losses. Bay Shore has to beat Patchouge and West Islip, West Islip may need the game for a better position, not looking good for BS. Lindy sitting pretty.

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 10-0-0 10-2-0 167.360
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-4-0 153.730
Smithtown East 8-2-0 9-3-0 149.090
H H Hills East 9-2-0 10-2-0 144.990
Commack HS 7-3-0 8-4-0 134.630
West Islip 7-3-0 9-3-0 132.810
Connetquot 7-3-0 8-4-0 119.400
Riverhead 7-4-0 9-4-0 118.940
Northport 6-5-0 7-6-0 115.380
Lindenhurst 6-4-0 6-6-0 108.400
Walt Whitman 5-6-0 6-7-0 105.200 (tonight games are not include they will be .500, they will have to keep an eye on Sachem North)

Bay Shore 5-5-0 7-5-0 101.740 (can they leap frog Whitman)
Sachem North 5-5-0 7-5-0 100.940 (not sure how they are behind BS they just beat them, they will lose to a higher ranked opponent than Bay Shore will lose to)
Patchogue-Medford 6-4-0 7-5-0 98.490 (today's loss hurts because they shouldnt be able to leap frog Sachem North)

top 5 get a bye so not sure it matters from there.
Wouldnt want to get West Islip / Connetquot / Northport first round. Suffolk A looks good for the top 8. Wouldnt it be great if top 8 of Nassau played top 8 of Suffolk

Can't wait to see today's power points

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow North Babylon a one point game against Whitman, Sachem be careful we all thought North Bab was a cake walk. or at least i did. Sachem North will finally leap frog Bay Shore for points and moving them to 12 and Bay Shore to 13. Sachem has melville and Smith east tough but dont think they will lose their spot because of those losses. Bay Shore has to beat Patchouge and West Islip, West Islip may need the game for a better position, not looking good for BS. Lindy sitting pretty.

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 10-0-0 10-2-0 167.360
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-4-0 153.730
Smithtown East 8-2-0 9-3-0 149.090
H H Hills East 9-2-0 10-2-0 144.990
Commack HS 7-3-0 8-4-0 134.630
West Islip 7-3-0 9-3-0 132.810
Connetquot 7-3-0 8-4-0 119.400
Riverhead 7-4-0 9-4-0 118.940
Northport 6-5-0 7-6-0 115.380
Lindenhurst 6-4-0 6-6-0 108.400
Walt Whitman 5-6-0 6-7-0 105.200 (tonight games are not include they will be .500, they will have to keep an eye on Sachem North)

Bay Shore 5-5-0 7-5-0 101.740 (can they leap frog Whitman)
Sachem North 5-5-0 7-5-0 100.940 (not sure how they are behind BS they just beat them, they will lose to a higher ranked opponent than Bay Shore will lose to)
Patchogue-Medford 6-4-0 7-5-0 98.490 (today's loss hurts because they shouldnt be able to leap frog Sachem North)

top 5 get a bye so not sure it matters from there.
Wouldnt want to get West Islip / Connetquot / Northport first round. Suffolk A looks good for the top 8. Wouldnt it be great if top 8 of Nassau played top 8 of Suffolk

Can't wait to see today's power points

DIV I (contest details)
Ward Melville 13-0-0 13-2-0 188.440
Smithtown East 11-2-0 12-3-0 167.680
Smithtown West 11-2-0 11-4-0 166.130
H H Hills East 10-3-0 12-3-0 152.300
Commack HS 9-4-0 10-5-0 142.300 (could move out, or stay put)

West Islip 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.840 (could move up or down)
Connetquot 9-4-0 10-5-0 125.580
Riverhead 9-4-0 11-4-0 124.810
Northport 6-7-0 7-8-0 110.760
Sachem North 7-6-0 9-6-0 110.190

(here is the race)
Bay Shore 7-6-0 9-6-0 107.890 West Islip Left
Walt Whitman 7-6-0 8-7-0 105.590 Commack left

Lindenhurst 7-6-0 7-8-0 102.510 Sahem East loss put them out

Sachem East 6-7-0 6-9-0 98.660
Huntington 4-9-0 5-10-0 92.300
PatMed 6-7-0 7-8-0 83.280

Whitman's Copaigue game actual hurt them. Go Lions on the border war.

Bay Shore should keep a slim margin if both win or both lose. Talking a point or less

Wow, some could say for 3 teams the Playoff start for Suffolk A tomorrow.
The 5 seed is playing the 12 seed
The 6 seed is playing the 11 seed.
Consolation game 13 vs 16

this is what i think
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
H H Hills East
Commack HS

West Islip
Riverhead
Connetquot
Northport
Sachem North

Lindenhurst

Since I think both Bay Shore and Whitman lose and are out, I see Lindenhurst squeezing in if they beat PatMed 10-5 or better.

I like this better because I dont want to see a rematch of WI and BS. Although I do want to see a few other rematches Hills east and Ward Melville being one of them.

Riverhead moves up over Connetquot.
I dont mind these rematches since they were a month prior
Quot vs Nport.
Rvr vs Sachem N

Then it would put
WM vs Nport
SE vs Rvr
Smith W vs WI
Hills E v Com

From there I only Like SE and Hills east advancing to play each other. Would have like to see a WI v WM game in there. Who knows one more day to get this all figured out. Good luck stay healthy

Always back to the goalies. So transparent! So your the 3rd string seniors goalies dad posting again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Always back to the goalies. So transparent! So your the 3rd string seniors goalies dad posting again

HUH?

west islip really what are we in a way back machine Team is not good anymore and time for coach to sail on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Always back to the goalies. So transparent! So your the 3rd string seniors goalies dad posting again

I heard that Manhattan College has a new goalie for the 2018 season who will likely start for 4 years.

Hector the Rejector....

He does his job and is silent!

Available at any sporting goods store.

So, playoffs next week, let's have a little serious dialogue on what we think will happen in Nassau and Suffolk.

Winner of Smithtown East/WM gets off Island. Last time the two played in a championship East won. CSH looks to repeat as State champs as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, playoffs next week, let's have a little serious dialogue on what we think will happen in Nassau and Suffolk.

Pequa, Set, CSH. Set & CSH to State Finals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, playoffs next week, let's have a little serious dialogue on what we think will happen in Nassau and Suffolk.

Nassau 1 semi-final will be Massapequa vs Port(Massapequa wins easily) other will be Syosset vs Farmingdale (Syosset wins this one)
Finals Massapequa wins vs Syosset

Nassau 2 semi-final will be Manhasset vs Wantagh (Manhasset wins by a lot) other will be Garden City vs Hewlett ( Garden City wins by a lot) finals Garden City wins by 3.

Nassau with a near sweep

Massapequa
Manhasset
CSH
only Oyster Bay does not get off the Island for Nassau Lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winner of Smithtown East/WM gets off Island. Last time the two played in a championship East won. CSH looks to repeat as State champs as well

East had a lot of trouble with Pequa. No guarantee there, I think the top 3 in Nassau A all have a shot of beating the top Suffolk school. Farmingdale is the dark horse here. With that being said I do believe the A champ for LI will be WM. But they better not take the Nassau team lightly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winner of Smithtown East/WM gets off Island. Last time the two played in a championship East won. CSH looks to repeat as State champs as well

East had a lot of trouble with Pequa. No guarantee there, I think the top 3 in Nassau A all have a shot of beating the top Suffolk school. Farmingdale is the dark horse here. With that being said I do believe the A champ for LI will be WM. But they better not take the Nassau team lightly.

Close games are great, but there has to be a winner. East already beat Pequa once, so they are favored there. That being said, WM beat East by 1, so they are the favorite. SWR might have a very competitive game with CSH as well. But, as experienced laxers know, we won't have answers till games are played. Who wants it, and is willing to put in the work as an individual, and team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, playoffs next week, let's have a little serious dialogue on what we think will happen in Nassau and Suffolk.

Nassau 1 semi-final will be Massapequa vs Port(Massapequa wins easily) other will be Syosset vs Farmingdale (Syosset wins this one)
Finals Massapequa wins vs Syosset

Nassau 2 semi-final will be Manhasset vs Wantagh (Manhasset wins by a lot) other will be Garden City vs Hewlett ( Garden City wins by a lot) finals Garden City wins by 3.

Port Washington has no chance. Their biggest issue is coaching or lack of coaching to be more precise. Massapequa and Syosset are the two best coached teams in this division and as a result they will meet in the finals. Massapequa will prevail with their talent and disciplined play. They will meet Ward Melville in the Long Island Championships and Massapequa will be the one left standing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winner of Smithtown East/WM gets off Island. Last time the two played in a championship East won. CSH looks to repeat as State champs as well

East had a lot of trouble with Pequa. No guarantee there, I think the top 3 in Nassau A all have a shot of beating the top Suffolk school. Farmingdale is the dark horse here. With that being said I do believe the A champ for LI will be WM. But they better not take the Nassau team lightly.

Close games are great, but there has to be a winner. East already beat Pequa once, so they are favored there. That being said, WM beat East by 1, so they are the favorite. SWR might have a very competitive game with CSH as well. But, as experienced laxers know, we won't have answers till games are played. Who wants it, and is willing to put in the work as an individual, and team?

Well yes, I agree, but we are prognosticating here, sooooo, it's kind of like who do you THINK, will win. One disagreement I would say is the work is already done, now is the time for coaching to take effect. They have played against each other once, so what will the coaches do differently. Hope the games are great.

Ok pequa dad!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, playoffs next week, let's have a little serious dialogue on what we think will happen in Nassau and Suffolk.

Nassau 1 semi-final will be Massapequa vs Port(Massapequa wins easily) other will be Syosset vs Farmingdale (Syosset wins this one)
Finals Massapequa wins vs Syosset

Nassau 2 semi-final will be Manhasset vs Wantagh (Manhasset wins by a lot) other will be Garden City vs Hewlett ( Garden City wins by a lot) finals Garden City wins by 3.

Port Washington has no chance. Their biggest issue is coaching or lack of coaching to be more precise. Massapequa and Syosset are the two best coached teams in this division and as a result they will meet in the finals. Massapequa will prevail with their talent and disciplined play. They will meet Ward Melville in the Long Island Championships and Massapequa will be the one left standing.

Never know. It's why they play the game.

Nassau A is a two team race. Nassau B is a two team race. Nassau C is a 1 horse race. Suffolk A will be a dog fight to see who wins, WM my favorite followed by Smithtown E and W with HHHE a tough out. Not sure about Suffolk B, Suffolk C SWR until proven otherwise but will be competitive. Suffolk is deeper across the board (Nassau guy here).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is a two team race. Nassau B is a two team race. Nassau C is a 1 horse race. Suffolk A will be a dog fight to see who wins, WM my favorite followed by Smithtown E and W with HHHE a tough out. Not sure about Suffolk B, Suffolk C SWR until proven otherwise but will be competitive. Suffolk is deeper across the board (Nassau guy here).

Were you not aware that SWR has lost two games in their league and won two others by 1 goal? They are not dominant by any means.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

"Were you not aware that SWR has lost two games in their league and won two others by 1 goal? They are not dominant by any means.

Um that is why I said "Suffolk C SWR until proven otherwise but will be competitive." Are you trying to stir controversy and a fight where there is none? I agree with you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

That was such a polite and evenhanded smack down

but alas, logic, reason and a calm demeanor has no place on BOTC....

you xenophobic narcissistic Pequa defender

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

You'd be surprised at that answer. The teams that dont think they can escape the first round. Many of them just want out!!!
Sad but true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

Not from pequa and I (along with many) say they win Nassua A. I just dont think they take the LIC.

SWR has some noise on here for Suffolk C, Someone said a 1 horse race, what is there 10 teams 6 get in playoffs. I say a four legged race; I like Islip.

Suffolk B probably EI and ESM, but Id love to see Rocky Point.

Suffolk A has the 2 studs but it is a 4 team race.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

That was such a polite and evenhanded smack down

but alas, logic, reason and a calm demeanor has no place on BOTC....

you xenophobic narcissistic Pequa defender

Once again, why the sarcastic silliness? How about an ADULT dialogue about the playoffs, devoid of insults. Why do you think team A is better than team B, without the nastiness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

Not from pequa and I (along with many) say they win Nassua A. I just dont think they take the LIC.

SWR has some noise on here for Suffolk C, Someone said a 1 horse race, what is there 10 teams 6 get in playoffs. I say a four legged race; I like Islip.

Suffolk B probably EI and ESM, but Id love to see Rocky Point.

Suffolk A has the 2 studs but it is a 4 team race.

The 1 horse race comment was for Nassau C, IE, CSH. Funny, that was the same thing said in 2014 . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok pequa dad!!!

No one knows who you are referring to, but I'm curious why you can't have a pleasant back and forth on here about the playoffs, without the typical d-bag response?

I think I follow his thinking. He is accusing someone, who picked Pequa to win in the playoffs, of being related to a Massapequa player. Because it is not possible for an unbiased lax fan to pick Pequa to move on based on their undefeated league record and their strong performance out of conference. Their only 2 losses of the year were a 1 goal loss to SE (which even SE players/parents will say could've gone either way) and a 2 goal loss to Chaminade (who parents there will say that team should be playing in the ncaa tourney).

Yeah.....whoever picks Pequa to take the county title or even think take the LI title, must be related to a player!

Not from pequa and I (along with many) say they win Nassua A. I just dont think they take the LIC.

SWR has some noise on here for Suffolk C, Someone said a 1 horse race, what is there 10 teams 6 get in playoffs. I say a four legged race; I like Islip.

Suffolk B probably EI and ESM, but Id love to see Rocky Point.

Suffolk A has the 2 studs but it is a 4 team race.

Yes, reminds me of 2015 when Pequa, then SE was supposed to take the LIC. How did that work out?

Sad how some coaches leave their star player in to get garbage points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad how some coaches leave their star player in to get garbage points.

I guess playoff brackets will be published today?

what do they go by? is rpi the same as power rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sad how some coaches leave their star player in to get garbage points.

I guess playoff brackets will be published today?

http://www.nassauboces.org/Page/557

http://www.nassauboces.org//site/Default.aspx?PageID=562

there should be a rule that you cannot schedule all of the bottom tier teams in your division (teams ranked 11-22). This does not make for a good season even for those bottom dwellers.

Suffolk A has 22 teams you schedule 14 of those teams of the 14 only 4 maybe 5 can be from teams ranked 11 or lower. Maybe drop the mandatory count of 14 league games to 12 or even 10 and you have some more flexibility for those higher profile teams to bye pass the bottom 11 even more and schedule OOC opponents. Or becuase we need to be politically correct and in the spirit of sportsmanship allow the 11 to 22 teams to schedule other OOC like teams. an 18-2 game isnt fun for anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there should be a rule that you cannot schedule all of the bottom tier teams in your division (teams ranked 11-22). This does not make for a good season even for those bottom dwellers.

Suffolk A has 22 teams you schedule 14 of those teams of the 14 only 4 maybe 5 can be from teams ranked 11 or lower. Maybe drop the mandatory count of 14 league games to 12 or even 10 and you have some more flexibility for those higher profile teams to bye pass the bottom 11 even more and schedule OOC opponents. Or becuase we need to be politically correct and in the spirit of sportsmanship allow the 11 to 22 teams to schedule other OOC like teams. an 18-2 game isnt fun for anyone.

They already do this. Preseason rankings and power rankings. 1 seed only plays 2-15 and then goes down from there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there should be a rule that you cannot schedule all of the bottom tier teams in your division (teams ranked 11-22). This does not make for a good season even for those bottom dwellers.

Suffolk A has 22 teams you schedule 14 of those teams of the 14 only 4 maybe 5 can be from teams ranked 11 or lower. Maybe drop the mandatory count of 14 league games to 12 or even 10 and you have some more flexibility for those higher profile teams to bye pass the bottom 11 even more and schedule OOC opponents. Or becuase we need to be politically correct and in the spirit of sportsmanship allow the 11 to 22 teams to schedule other OOC like teams. an 18-2 game isnt fun for anyone.

They already do this. Preseason rankings and power rankings. 1 seed only plays 2-15 and then goes down from there.

Maybe you don't get it or i didn't get your satire. If you are ranked 1- 11 you cant play more than 4 of the teams ranked 12-22. Some of those teams with final ranking of 10-15 played all 11 of the 11-22 teams. Grant it the end of the season and beginning can differ. but the bottom 5 teams dont differ that much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there should be a rule that you cannot schedule all of the bottom tier teams in your division (teams ranked 11-22). This does not make for a good season even for those bottom dwellers.

Suffolk A has 22 teams you schedule 14 of those teams of the 14 only 4 maybe 5 can be from teams ranked 11 or lower. Maybe drop the mandatory count of 14 league games to 12 or even 10 and you have some more flexibility for those higher profile teams to bye pass the bottom 11 even more and schedule OOC opponents. Or becuase we need to be politically correct and in the spirit of sportsmanship allow the 11 to 22 teams to schedule other OOC like teams. an 18-2 game isnt fun for anyone.

They already do this. Preseason rankings and power rankings. 1 seed only plays 2-15 and then goes down from there.

his point was/is do we really need the #1 seed playing the #'s 13-14 or 15 seeds, these games aren't good for anybody

yesterday we had five games on LI decided by 14 or more goals
21 - 2
17 - 1
17 - 2
17 - 2
16 - 2

I was at one of those games and the starters were all out at the end of the first period - so it was not running up the score - it was not fun for either team - make super conferences for the regular season - make less league games - more OCC against traditional or more competitive opponents and MLGA (Make Lacrosse Great Again )

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there should be a rule that you cannot schedule all of the bottom tier teams in your division (teams ranked 11-22). This does not make for a good season even for those bottom dwellers.

Suffolk A has 22 teams you schedule 14 of those teams of the 14 only 4 maybe 5 can be from teams ranked 11 or lower. Maybe drop the mandatory count of 14 league games to 12 or even 10 and you have some more flexibility for those higher profile teams to bye pass the bottom 11 even more and schedule OOC opponents. Or becuase we need to be politically correct and in the spirit of sportsmanship allow the 11 to 22 teams to schedule other OOC like teams. an 18-2 game isnt fun for anyone.

They already do this. Preseason rankings and power rankings. 1 seed only plays 2-15 and then goes down from there.

Maybe you don't get it or i didn't get your satire. If you are ranked 1- 11 you cant play more than 4 of the teams ranked 12-22. Some of those teams with final ranking of 10-15 played all 11 of the 11-22 teams. Grant it the end of the season and beginning can differ. but the bottom 5 teams dont differ that much

Agree but wont happen. How will certain players "stat pad" their numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

The king of team and players that know they are underperforming. We got what we deserved when we allowed administrators to bend to the will of a few malcontents and remove Coach Dollar. Lesson learned, never again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

The king of team and players that know they are underperforming. We got what we deserved when we allowed administrators to bend to the will of a few malcontents and remove Coach Dollar. Lesson learned, never again.

Hey.....you guys let the landscaper run the place. Shame on you

Bayshore and Huntington got screwed. Lindenhurst should not be in.

Does anyone happen to know anything about the Casey Powel tryouts held this week to field a LI team for the WSL in Denver ?

Port probably beats Massapequa in the semis and faces Syosset in the finals. I'd say close game. Maybe overtime in the finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

The king of team and players that know they are underperforming. We got what we deserved when we allowed administrators to bend to the will of a few malcontents and remove Coach Dollar. Lesson learned, never again.

Hey.....you guys let the landscaper run the place. Shame on you

I tried arguing against him and his little group of whiners. Your son didn't make All American? Too bad, he's playing football anyway. Thanks for destroying our program. Next time, fight for the guy who busted his tail for our kids, we let the guy down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port probably beats Massapequa in the semis and faces Syosset in the finals. I'd say close game. Maybe overtime in the finals.

Do you mean in Sailing or Crew?

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

The king of team and players that know they are underperforming. We got what we deserved when we allowed administrators to bend to the will of a few malcontents and remove Coach Dollar. Lesson learned, never again.

Hey.....you guys let the landscaper run the place. Shame on you

I tried arguing against him and his little group of whiners. Your son didn't make All American? Too bad, he's playing football anyway. Thanks for destroying our program. Next time, fight for the guy who busted his tail for our kids, we let the guy down.

He's still around. Go get him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

Cops and firemen are hardworking? Are you serious?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayshore and Huntington got screwed. Lindenhurst should not be in.

How does Huntington get screwed they were 5-9 in league. Bay Shore beat them. Neither played Lindy. Whitman that's another story but they lost to Lindy. They all had weak schedules Lindy won more games end of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

Two types of people in this world the guy who invented the plunger and the one who was destined to use it. You keep plunging Massapequa guy. I will just keep on investing my trust fund money and keep living the good life living off of my returns all the while your neck did in crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

This has got to stop. Stop lumping everybody in one town into the same financial category and overgeneralizing . I live in Port and there's no trust fund for me. You sound like an idiot. As for Port parent who keeps taking about investments, please stop. You're embarrassing us. Don't speak for the rest of us or try to represent us. This is supposed to be about lacrosse and not how much money people make or what their jobs are. Get over yourselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

Two types of people in this world the guy who invented the plunger and the one who was destined to use it. You keep plunging Massapequa guy. I will just keep on investing my trust fund money and keep living the good life living off of my returns all the while your neck did in crap.

Only someone without money says it can't buy happiness. FYI. Money talks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port probably beats Massapequa in the semis and faces Syosset in the finals. I'd say close game. Maybe overtime in the finals.

Do you mean in Sailing or Crew?

You are a total moron

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port= Money does not by happiness. Blue Collar all the way baby! The trust fund panseys will just be happy getting things handed to them, while the hard nosed workers will get the job done.

Cops and firemen are hardworking? Are you serious?

Hey Port loser, a firefighter from Bethpage died in the line of duty just a few weeks ago.!Is that hard working enough for you? Hope your kid blows out his knee and can never play again you arrogant tool

Omg you call the guy a loser, and hope a young man hurts himself,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port probably beats Massapequa in the semis and faces Syosset in the finals. I'd say close game. Maybe overtime in the finals.

Do you mean in Sailing or Crew?

You are a total moron

When there is a spooky shadow from outside your window or the boogey man is under your bed and you call the cops to come check it out, those men n women are working harder than you.....aren't they?

Hey Port Moron

Line Of Duty Deaths for Police Officers:
2016- 145
2017- 47

They must be working to hard, what an a**hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Port Moron

Line Of Duty Deaths for Police Officers:
2016- 145
2017- 47

They must be working to hard, what an a**hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would love to take that POS down a hallway in a little bull sh*t one room mattress fire and listen to him scream and cry for his mommy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Omg you call the guy a loser, and hope a young man hurts himself,

Yup, then maybe this idiot will experience some real loss. Jaca$$ probably has never seen a young family devastated by the loss of their father. Screw him. I could care less!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Omg you call the guy a loser, and hope a young man hurts himself,

Yup, then maybe this idiot will experience some real loss. Jaca$$ probably has never seen a young family devastated by the loss of their father. Screw him. I could care less!

Agreed, this guy wouldn't last 2 hours where most Police Officers and Firefighters work.
A significant amount of my young cops have multiple tours in combat. Guess, they didn't work too hard there either. Hey, guy, pretty sure you have never made a sacrifice in your life. And going out on Sunday night to get Ben and Jerry's for your wife doesn't count.
D-ck.

Wasn't this string supposed to be about high school lacrosse?

Yeah, until some spoiled Port poppy made a crappy comment. Way to pit a whole Island against your $hitty little spoiled town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasn't this string supposed to be about high school lacrosse?

Yeah, it is until its not. Guess you are another Port fan.

Why has there been so much Port talk? They don't have one notable win..

When someone tells me they live in "port" I pretend that they mean Port Jefferson ,which is a great town. but it. makes them crazy and they have to be all composed and correct me. Good Times

Yup, I am a Port fan, but my Port is in Suffolk so not the one you are talking about.

And you are sure that a Port Washington resident made that ignorant comment about Police Officers and Fire Fighters ? Could it be possible that someone from another town is just trying to stir the pot ? Could it be possible that a couple of the Port Washington players have Dads that are Police Officers ? Just some food for thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When someone tells me they live in "port" I pretend that they mean Port Jefferson ,which is a great town. but it. makes them crazy and they have to be all composed and correct me. Good Times

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When someone tells me they live in "port" I pretend that they mean Port Jefferson ,which is a great town. but it. makes them crazy and they have to be all composed and correct me. Good Times

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When someone tells me they live in "port" I pretend that they mean Port Jefferson ,which is a great town. but it. makes them crazy and they have to be all composed and correct me. Good Times

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When someone tells me they live in "port" I pretend that they mean Port Jefferson ,which is a great town. but it. makes them crazy and they have to be all composed and correct me. Good Times

If that's what you think is good times then you need to get a life. You're a tool

You really think someone from Port Washington came on here and said those disparaging things about Massapequa. Especially policemen and fireman. Now you are really foolish. If anyone was at the game they know that many of the parents and players know each other and are friends on and off the field. The first game that was played at Massapequa and both players and fans were just fine. I really dont think Port fans are on here talking trash. Lets keep it civil and let the boys determine the outcome on the filed when they meet. Lets also hope for a good game and all players come off the field unscathed. Good luck to all the boys and all the seniors who will be playing their last few games in high school.

Anyone have any thoughts on the first round matchups in Suffolk D1?

Northport vs. Riverhead
Lindenhurst vs. West Islip
Connectquot vs. Sachem North

My picks.

Riverhead, West Islip, Connectquot

[quote=Anonymous]Anyone have any thoughts on the first round matchups in Suffolk D1?

Northport vs. Riverhead
Lindenhurst vs. West Islip
Connectquot vs. Sachem North[/quote

[quote=Anonymous]Anyone have any thoughts on the first round matchups in Suffolk D1?

Northport vs. Riverhead
Lindenhurst vs. West Islip
Connectquot vs. Sachem North[/quote

Northport
WI
Quot

All lose second round.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any thoughts on the first round matchups in Suffolk D1?

Northport vs. Riverhead
Lindenhurst vs. West Islip
Connectquot vs. Sachem North

Really think the only game not a toss up is WI game. The other 2 can go either way - close or blowouts

Nassau champions?

Port Washington is an eclectic melting pot of various ethnicity and financial background spanning all spectrums and the lacrosse team is representative of that town makeup so settle down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau champions?

They are all champions just for competing - good luck to all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau champions?

A - who knows
B - who cares
C - CSH (best team on LI)
d - Oyster Bay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau champions?

They are all champions just for competing - good luck to all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau champions?

They are all champions just for competing - good luck to all

Such a snowflake response.

Nassau A is terrible---only 6 teams ever compete. Top 6 are always good and bottom half wouldn't beat Mineola or Seaford
B is by far deepest most talented group in Nassau
C and D are PAL at best, CSH technically Suffolk; so FCUK them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau champions?

A - who knows
B - who cares
C - CSH (best team on LI)
d - Oyster Bay

Easy cold spring dad!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, worst record in 15 years
kids just want it to be over

You are in the playoffs!! What kind of team wants that to be over?

The king of team and players that know they are underperforming. We got what we deserved when we allowed administrators to bend to the will of a few malcontents and remove Coach Dollar. Lesson learned, never again.

Hey.....you guys let the landscaper run the place. Shame on you

I tried arguing against him and his little group of whiners. Your son didn't make All American? Too bad, he's playing football anyway. Thanks for destroying our program. Next time, fight for the guy who busted his tail for our kids, we let the guy down.

He's still around. Go get him

Highly unlikely. Who's going to tell him "we screwed up, sorry". He's probably happier not dealing with parents who are never content, always complaining. I've never seen a coaching situation where a guy was more under appreciated, we were spoiled. Get used to mediocrity at best for a very long time.

I'll give you the last two, but Northport v. Riverhead is definitely a toss up. They match up well in most areas, but that aside, even though they had the better record, who did Riverhead actually beat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is terrible---only 6 teams ever compete. Top 6 are always good and bottom half wouldn't beat Mineola or Seaford
B is by far deepest most talented group in Nassau
C and D are PAL at best, CSH technically Suffolk; so FCUK them

You, sir, are a tool!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is terrible---only 6 teams ever compete. Top 6 are always good and bottom half wouldn't beat Mineola or Seaford
B is by far deepest most talented group in Nassau
C and D are PAL at best, CSH technically Suffolk; so FCUK them

You, sir, are a tool!

CSH is technically in Nassau but actually in Suffolk is what I think you mean.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port Washington is an eclectic melting pot of various ethnicity and financial background spanning all spectrums and the lacrosse team is representative of that town makeup so settle down.

It's hard to tell when everyone is wearing RayBans and Vinyard Vines clothing.

C with cold spring harbor, north shore, bethpage, lynbrook, locust valley and floral park is a very tough conference. Those teams will beat most of A. And fair very well in b also.

I know many in West Islip and Bayshore who wear RayBans and wear Vineyard Vine stuff, not sure I get your point? Dont let these jackasses get your Irish up. Good luck to all the boys next week, play hard and respect the game and you will be alright.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is terrible---only 6 teams ever compete. Top 6 are always good and bottom half wouldn't beat Mineola or Seaford
B is by far deepest most talented group in Nassau
C and D are PAL at best, CSH technically Suffolk; so FCUK them

You, sir, are a tool!

CSH is technically in Nassau but actually in Suffolk is what I think you mean.

CSH
geographically the school is in Suffolk County
residence live in both Nassau and Suffolk county
lacrosse they are in a world of there own.......Best team on LI

So true, respect the game like so few do on this site.

Only Suffolk games, as that is what I've predominately watched this season.

Suffolk Class A games

#8Riverhead- #9Northport
I think Northport gets it done 10-9. They played Syosset to a 1 goal game and beat Commack. Riverhead's best win was probably over Bay Shore. Although Riverhead is the higher seed, I say they get upset.

#11 Lindenhurst- #6 West Islip
Not really much to say. West Islip They haven't played each other this season and Lindenhurst has been improving going 2-2 the last 4 games. With that said, West Islip wins comfortably 15-6. Let's see if the Lions can start to build momentum after losing to both Commack and Hills East in the same season.

#7 Connetquot- #10 Sachem North
Definitely not the same team as last year, but Connetquot has enough to get by in the first round. Out of both teams, Connetquot has 1 winner against a team that is in the playoffs, Northport. Let me go 11-9 Thunderbirds.

Suffolk Class B games

#5 Rocky Point @ #4 HH Hills West
I think the attack of Hills West will be hard to stop. Team is healthy for the playoff run. I say Colts over the Eagles 12-8. First time playing each other this year.

#6 Comsewogue @ #3Harborfields
Comsewogue won the last meeting last week 11-3. I think it will be much closer. Harborfields best win was over Miller Place. That was a month ago. Comsewogue is a chippy team. 10-8 Comsewogue

Suffolk Class C games

#5 Sayville @ #4 Mt. Sinai
Mt. Sinai won the regular season and should win again. 10-7 Mustangs

#6 Bayport- Bluepoint @ #3 Miller Place
Miller Place won 15-7 in their first matchup. I think they win 12-8 after coming off a gritty win over Hills West.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is terrible---only 6 teams ever compete. Top 6 are always good and bottom half wouldn't beat Mineola or Seaford
B is by far deepest most talented group in Nassau
C and D are PAL at best, CSH technically Suffolk; so FCUK them

You, sir, are a tool!

CSH is technically in Nassau but actually in Suffolk is what I think you mean.

CSH
geographically the school is in Suffolk County
residence live in both Nassau and Suffolk county
lacrosse they are in a world of there own.......Best team on LI

They are good, but grammar is not a CSH strong point, THEIR own. Come on Sea Hawk, get it right!! That's no way to get to states!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

C with cold spring harbor, north shore, bethpage, lynbrook, locust valley and floral park is a very tough conference. Those teams will beat most of A. And fair very well in b also.

After CSH not one of those teams would hang with the top 4 in A, and forget about B, they would get crushed. North Shore would lose by 10, Bethpage by 20, Lynbrook by 10, Locust Valley by 5-10 and Floral Park by 30. Come on dude, get real.

Nassau A- Syosset, pequa, Port and Farm.
Nassau B-Manh, Want, LB, GC.
Nassau C-CSH/NS

lynbrook having down year. The last 5 years they could of hung with any team in nassau and most in suffolk. CSH is not only best on Island but top 5 in country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port Washington is an eclectic melting pot of various ethnicity and financial background spanning all spectrums and the lacrosse team is representative of that town makeup so settle down.

It's hard to tell when everyone is wearing RayBans and Vinyard Vines clothing.

Think you're getting us confused with someone else. And you're a tool.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port Washington is an eclectic melting pot of various ethnicity and financial background spanning all spectrums and the lacrosse team is representative of that town makeup so settle down.

It's hard to tell when everyone is wearing RayBans and Vinyard Vines clothing.

Think you're getting us confused with someone else. And you're a tool.....

Agreed this moron has no idea about port and if he did would likely be jealous and wish he lived here. Great town full of all different types of great people.

Best team on LI, maybe - should have played a more challenging Long Island schedule.

Good luck to all the teams in the playoffs, ignore the rantings of the few who post on here with all their negativity. When I say few, I mean literally, a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port Washington is an eclectic melting pot of various ethnicity and financial background spanning all spectrums and the lacrosse team is representative of that town makeup so settle down.

It's hard to tell when everyone is wearing RayBans and Vinyard Vines clothing.

Think you're getting us confused with someone else. And you're a tool.....

Agreed this moron has no idea about port and if he did would likely be jealous and wish he lived here. Great town full of all different types of great people.

Aaaaannnnnd the Port posters prove once again why they are universally disliked. You were on the way to humble and likeable, and then...BOOM, back to jerk off.

I live in neither Port or Syosset (the other universally disliked town) but if I had to live in either it would hands down be Port. so Port > Syo.

glad that's cleared up . couldn't wait to hear your preference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A- Syosset, pequa, Port and Farm.
Nassau B-Manh, Want, LB, GC.
Nassau C-CSH/NS

NS is not even making it to the C finals - please!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A- Syosset, pequa, Port and Farm.
Nassau B-Manh, Want, LB, GC.
Nassau C-CSH/NS

NS is not even making it to the C finals - please!

Prediction for C final?

"I predict pain."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I predict pain."

Not bad, but I prefer "I must break you"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in neither Port or Syosset (the other universally disliked town) but if I had to live in either it would hands down be Port. so Port > Syo.

Thanks for giving us your point of view.

We are all glad you don't live in either Port or Syosset. I understand why you would rather live in Port however, as it's much easier to travel from Port to Queens to visit family. Also, I guess your son would possibly have a chance at playing lax at Port. That's a good choice, it's better to play then to sit on the bench.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A- Syosset, pequa, Port and Farm.
Nassau B-Manh, Want, LB, GC.
Nassau C-CSH/NS

NS is not even making it to the C finals - please!

Don't know but Set & CSH going to State Finals

Prediction for C final?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A- Syosset, pequa, Port and Farm.
Nassau B-Manh, Want, LB, GC.
Nassau C-CSH/NS

NS is not even making it to the C finals - please!

Prediction for C final?

1 vs 2, exactly as you would expect - no one in the top bracket w/ CSH is beating them to get to the finals (CSH could probably get to the finals if they were in Class A or B!); LV probably faces Lynbrook in the semis, but beat them again to go to the finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in neither Port or Syosset (the other universally disliked town) but if I had to live in either it would hands down be Port. so Port > Syo.

Thanks for giving us your point of view.

We are all glad you don't live in either Port or Syosset. I understand why you would rather live in Port however, as it's much easier to travel from Port to Queens to visit family. Also, I guess your son would possibly have a chance at playing lax at Port. That's a good choice, it's better to play then to sit on the bench.

This could be the dumbest post of all. Only because the person who wrote this actually thinks he made a point or two. Yikes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I live in neither Port or Syosset (the other universally disliked town) but if I had to live in either it would hands down be Port. so Port > Syo.

Thanks for giving us your point of view.

We are all glad you don't live in either Port or Syosset. I understand why you would rather live in Port however, as it's much easier to travel from Port to Queens to visit family. Also, I guess your son would possibly have a chance at playing lax at Port. That's a good choice, it's better to play then to sit on the bench.

This could be the dumbest post of all. Only because the person who wrote this actually thinks he made a point or two. Yikes.

You > 🍆

Please take this crap, some place else.

How about the statement wins from Massapequa and Syosset going into the palyoffs.
Massapequa 18-0 over Oceanside. Pequa played all their lines
Syosset 15-3 over Plainview. Syosset played all their lines

How about Ports statement win over Baldwin 10-7. Lol. Talk about horrible way to go into your next playoff game. Way too close for comfort. Nothing like getting out coached. Port needs some changes and it starts with the head coach.

Farmingdale and East Meadow with a late start of 6:30. Let's see how the Dalers fair versus the Jets. I can pretty much guarantee they handle them easily.

Anyone have any final scores from Suffolk Division 1 today?
the one i know was Northport over Riverhead 13-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any final scores from Suffolk Division 1 today?
the one i know was Northport over Riverhead 13-8

Wi over lindy 8-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the statement wins from Massapequa and Syosset going into the palyoffs.
Massapequa 18-0 over Oceanside. Pequa played all their lines
Syosset 15-3 over Plainview. Syosset played all their lines

How about Ports statement win over Baldwin 10-7. Lol. Talk about horrible way to go into your next playoff game. Way too close for comfort. Nothing like getting out coached. Port needs some changes and it starts with the head coach.

Farmingdale and East Meadow with a late start of 6:30. Let's see how the Dalers fair versus the Jets. I can pretty much guarantee they handle them easily.

Farmingdale made their statement 18-6. They were also able to get all their players in.

Massapequa will dominate Port
Syosset will beat Farmingdale. It will be tight because Syosset will play a slow paced controlled game. Massapequa, Syosset, and Farmingdale are coached really well unlike Port.

CQOT beat Sachem North 17-10. Sachem did not look good at all

My son played his last HS Lacrosse game yesterday. They lost to Massapequa 18-0. JG has not won a playoff game in 5 years being named Head Coach. His lack of work ethic really bothers me, not so much the losing (4-12 this season). Oceanside has some pretty good talent. I hope the administration will do something about the laziness this man brings to the table. Oceanside needs to bring in a person who wants to work 24/7.

St John the Baptist has the worst coaching in HS Lax on LI. They have some good talent but worst coaching I have ever seen. Lost the team in week 2 of the season. 3-11 season worst season in 20 years. administration recognized it and has promised major changes for next season. Good riddance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St John the Baptist has the worst coaching in HS Lax on LI. They have some good talent but worst coaching I have ever seen. Lost the team in week 2 of the season. 3-11 season worst season in 20 years. administration recognized it and has promised major changes for next season. Good riddance

Maybe the next top 10 list could the worst coaches on LI

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

its not about winning or losing in high school. its about the full ride. scorers get the rides....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son played his last HS Lacrosse game yesterday. They lost to Massapequa 18-0. JG has not won a playoff game in 5 years being named Head Coach. His lack of work ethic really bothers me, not so much the losing (4-12 this season). Oceanside has some pretty good talent. I hope the administration will do something about the laziness this man brings to the table. Oceanside needs to bring in a person who wants to work 24/7.

Not to be insensitive, (congrats to your son for his Varsity career) but do the players at Oceanside work 24/7 at their craft improving? Do the players have informal workouts during the off season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

How about a coach that not only rewards selfish play he promotes it. Allows a cancerous player to stay on a team after he personally dismissed him. The team lacks leadership and accountability. It 100% starts from the top and trickles down. Coach is last one to practice first one to leave. Never rides bus to or from games. Never goes into locker to get the pulse of team before or after games. Missed more practices than can be counted in the winter and fall yet if a player misses a practice they are dismissed from the team. Doesn't have any idea on how to run a program. Makes claims of being a great communicator yet is probably the worst communicator around. Feels he is infallible. So much so that he cant and wont admit to his inability to delagate coaching responsibility to those who are more qualified than he is on his own staff. Has been 100% out coached in every meaningful game this year and last year. Will never make it past the semis regardless of the talent he has.

Any potential upsets for Round 2 of Division 1 Suffolk? Ya never know what can happen.

Score was 19-10 and you can not win when you never have the ball. Connetquot won more than 80% of the faceoffs, Sachem North never had the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son played his last HS Lacrosse game yesterday. They lost to Massapequa 18-0. JG has not won a playoff game in 5 years being named Head Coach. His lack of work ethic really bothers me, not so much the losing (4-12 this season). Oceanside has some pretty good talent. I hope the administration will do something about the laziness this man brings to the table. Oceanside needs to bring in a person who wants to work 24/7.

At 4-12 they shouldn't even make the playoffs. And O'side is not exactly a long time power, did your kids really expect to beat Massapequa? Sounds like the team gave up and that blame can be placed at the feet of the coach for sure, but also directly at the senior leadership and each Senior on the team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any potential upsets for Round 2 of Division 1 Suffolk? Ya never know what can happen.

I like Wi over Sw

I give Northport a punchers chance vs. WM. They only lost 12-8 during the season and they have a good face-off as well as goalie. Might be able to keep it close but likely in the end, the WM firepower will be to much.

can you elaborate on the coach that promotes selfish play? Hard to read between the lines, if you have an issue with your coach why air it on here, show some sack and call him into your office.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

How about a coach that not only rewards selfish play he promotes it. Allows a cancerous player to stay on a team after he personally dismissed him. The team lacks leadership and accountability. It 100% starts from the top and trickles down. Coach is last one to practice first one to leave. Never rides bus to or from games. Never goes into locker to get the pulse of team before or after games. Missed more practices than can be counted in the winter and fall yet if a player misses a practice they are dismissed from the team. Doesn't have any idea on how to run a program. Makes claims of being a great communicator yet is probably the worst communicator around. Feels he is infallible. So much so that he cant and wont admit to his inability to delagate coaching responsibility to those who are more qualified than he is on his own staff. Has been 100% out coached in every meaningful game this year and last year. Will never make it past the semis regardless of the talent he has.

How about off winter and fall practices with the coach are not allowed?

I heard the WM goalie was hurt in some kind of accident ,,,is he ok ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give Northport a punchers chance vs. WM. They only lost 12-8 during the season and they have a good face-off as well as goalie. Might be able to keep it close but likely in the end, the WM firepower will be to much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

How about a coach that not only rewards selfish play he promotes it. Allows a cancerous player to stay on a team after he personally dismissed him. The team lacks leadership and accountability. It 100% starts from the top and trickles down. Coach is last one to practice first one to leave. Never rides bus to or from games. Never goes into locker to get the pulse of team before or after games. Missed more practices than can be counted in the winter and fall yet if a player misses a practice they are dismissed from the team. Doesn't have any idea on how to run a program. Makes claims of being a great communicator yet is probably the worst communicator around. Feels he is infallible. So much so that he cant and wont admit to his inability to delagate coaching responsibility to those who are more qualified than he is on his own staff. Has been 100% out coached in every meaningful game this year and last year. Will never make it past the semis regardless of the talent he has.

How about off winter and fall practices with the coach are not allowed?

You cant be serious right? They're called open work outs. Completely allowed.

Connq coughed up 10 goals to a team that never had the ball? Good luck with that on Friday.

probably another port parent airing their grievances on here

Didn't hear anything about that, but hope he is alright if that is the case. Sport aside, you never want to see a kid hurt.

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

Originally Posted by Anonymous

probably another port parent airing their grievances on here

How can anyone tell what school this is? It can be any school on Long Island. Is there a hidden message within the post that points to a certain program.

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

The team is blameless in this fiasco. The coach must go of course. Religion has no bearing on this incident. SMU received the death penalty for infractions involved in football in the 80's. It's an issue where winning trumps all. Starts in PAL with select teams and carries over.

Good luck with sjb making any changes. The athletic director should go. She does nothing. The girls lacrosse coach is incompetent. Worst coach ever and she goes to Disney after parents plan to be here for spring break Practices!! Other schools and coaches have actually remarked on how poor the lacrosse programs are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Supposedly, player was playing in his fifth year of varsity lacrosse - 9th in public, 10 @ St A's, repeated 10th @ St A's, 11th @ St A's, and 12 @ St A's. Not sure how that wasn't obvious to St A's before 5/13 of this year - his first year there was 10th grade. You might be able to explain the oversight if he started St A's 9th grade!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

....WORDS of a true Bigeot. Find another forum to peddle your anti-catholic rhetoric

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Lawsuits will be filed. Negligence and breach of contract.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son played his last HS Lacrosse game yesterday. They lost to Massapequa 18-0. JG has not won a playoff game in 5 years being named Head Coach. His lack of work ethic really bothers me, not so much the losing (4-12 this season). Oceanside has some pretty good talent. I hope the administration will do something about the laziness this man brings to the table. Oceanside needs to bring in a person who wants to work 24/7.

I would agree with this parent. If you look at the oceanside Football program, where it was and where it is now with the current Coach (RB). He came in and change the culture. It is needed in the lacrosse program. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

....WORDS of a true Bigeot. Find another forum to peddle your anti-catholic rhetoric

I'm Catholic, son goes to a Catholic College, second son also going to a Catholic College. These are not words of bigotry, they are words of truth. If you're going to preach it, you'd better live it! If it was an oversight, then so be it. Take responsibility, make things right were you can and make sure polices and procedures are put in place to ensure it never happens again.

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Lawsuits will be filed. Negligence and breach of contract.

Lawsuits.....seriously......over a game of high school lacrosse. Calm down chicken little.

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Lawsuits will be filed. Negligence and breach of contract.

Lawsuits...really....for a HS lacrosse game. Your either an idiot or an attorney.....much the same

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Selfless play and defense wins championships. Selfish play and parents who promote it will lead to a loss in a playoffs. After the loss the parents of the selfish player will blame the coaches. Parents of the selfish player will not care that the team lost as long as their child had multiple goals. Coaches who allow or reward selfish play will never win a championship.

How about a coach that not only rewards selfish play he promotes it. Allows a cancerous player to stay on a team after he personally dismissed him. The team lacks leadership and accountability. It 100% starts from the top and trickles down. Coach is last one to practice first one to leave. Never rides bus to or from games. Never goes into locker to get the pulse of team before or after games. Missed more practices than can be counted in the winter and fall yet if a player misses a practice they are dismissed from the team. Doesn't have any idea on how to run a program. Makes claims of being a great communicator yet is probably the worst communicator around. Feels he is infallible. So much so that he cant and wont admit to his inability to delagate coaching responsibility to those who are more qualified than he is on his own staff. Has been 100% out coached in every meaningful game this year and last year. Will never make it past the semis regardless of the talent he has.

How about off winter and fall practices with the coach are not allowed?

You cant be serious right? They're called open work outs. Completely allowed.

Called open gym.....not practices.

I have to question this what SJB Admin? the school basically refuses to take any action with regard to replacing coaches. The "Athletic Director" would be the first person they should replace. If you call driving around on a golf cart screaming at kids directing athletics then she is right for the job, but other than that she is a disaster for the school.

The girls lacrosse coach awful and everyone knows this, but no change made there either and years of students/parents complaints disregarded. She knows little about coaching and her dedication to the program is laughable. She extensively PUNISHES girls if they miss practices during break but then as families made no plans to travel during Easter break, she was a no show for practices and was in Disney.

I would have to say that I wont send another child to this school if athletics are important part of high school for them.

The rules are pretty clear: If a school uses an ineligible student in any interscholastic contest, such contest
shall be forfeited to the opposing schools. With regard to post-season, at the time of discovery the school declared
ineligible will be disqualified from the tournament immediately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

This D coach has been real issue for a long time in the youth travel program in East Islip. Has been trying to control the recruiting out come for his kid. Typical over bearing parent screwing all the kids around his, to advance his own kids success. Same typical out come as well. Parent wants the success more then the kid. Didn't work for him but hurt a lot of kids along the way. Real tool!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to question this what SJB Admin? the school basically refuses to take any action with regard to replacing coaches. The "Athletic Director" would be the first person they should replace. If you call driving around on a golf cart screaming at kids directing athletics then she is right for the job, but other than that she is a disaster for the school.

The girls lacrosse coach awful and everyone knows this, but no change made there either and years of students/parents complaints disregarded. She knows little about coaching and her dedication to the program is laughable. She extensively PUNISHES girls if they miss practices during break but then as families made no plans to travel during Easter break, she was a no show for practices and was in Disney.

I would have to say that I wont send another child to this school if athletics are important part of high school for them.

I agree the SJB boys athletic director is worse. He let this issue with the boys program go on for 3 years before they acknowledged it. Hopefully they will make the changes they promised and we can save next season.

Absolutely ridiculous end to the 2017 lacrosse season; the responsibility lies with the player, the player's parents, the coach and the Athletic Director.
Deception has no place in sports; everyone involved should no longer have a place at St. Anthony's! Dishonor on the entire program & the school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

The exact reason why High School fathers' should not coach their sons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Supposedly, player was playing in his fifth year of varsity lacrosse - 9th in public, 10 @ St A's, repeated 10th @ St A's, 11th @ St A's, and 12 @ St A's. Not sure how that wasn't obvious to St A's before 5/13 of this year - his first year there was 10th grade. You might be able to explain the oversight if he started St A's 9th grade!

Player was not playing his 5th year of varsity lacrosse. Player went to St Anthony's as a 9th grader, played lax on the Freshman Team, went on to 10th grade played lax on JV Team, Repeated 10th grade and played lax on JV Team again as a 10 th grader , went on to Varsity in 11th, and 12th grade. The entire issue is that he played 5 yrs..of High School Lax(Not Varsity) as a 5 Year high school student, can not do that. In NY State you are considered a high school student in 9th grade. When he re-classed and held back in 10th grade he would have had to sit out his second 10th grade season or his senior year. In this instance because he played both of his 10th grade years and also played his senior year that added up to 5 yrs. of lax as a 5 year high school student. Not that its common, but obviously a rule parents should be aware of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

The league rules clearly state the outcome for this situation. Why should they have not followed their black and white rules? And why have rules if they are not followed?

this st. anthonys issue is an example of everything that is wrong with youth/hs lacrosse....repeating 10th grade....parents must be completely nuts

anyone that holds there kids back when they hit hs must be crazy....such a shame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's forfeits 2017 season due to ineligible player

So much for the Catholic ethics! What a disgrace! Coach should be fired. Brought shame on the school and lacrosse program.

Supposedly, player was playing in his fifth year of varsity lacrosse - 9th in public, 10 @ St A's, repeated 10th @ St A's, 11th @ St A's, and 12 @ St A's. Not sure how that wasn't obvious to St A's before 5/13 of this year - his first year there was 10th grade. You might be able to explain the oversight if he started St A's 9th grade!

Player was not playing his 5th year of varsity lacrosse. Player went to St Anthony's as a 9th grader, played lax on the Freshman Team, went on to 10th grade played lax on JV Team, Repeated 10th grade and played lax on JV Team again as a 10 th grader , went on to Varsity in 11th, and 12th grade. The entire issue is that he played 5 yrs..of High School Lax(Not Varsity) as a 5 Year high school student, can not do that. In NY State you are considered a high school student in 9th grade. When he re-classed and held back in 10th grade he would have had to sit out his second 10th grade season or his senior year. In this instance because he played both of his 10th grade years and also played his senior year that added up to 5 yrs. of lax as a 5 year high school student. Not that its common, but obviously a rule parents should be aware of.

Thank you for that post - rule totally makes sense even though in this case he was not repeating for athletics, if they did not have this rule in place the amount of hold backs would be insane

I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

No doubt on that. C-quot not the team they were last year. Coaching is weak there, last years team was an anomaly of real good players who played together for years. Now that real coaching will come in to play it will be same old C-quot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

The exact reason why High School fathers' should not coach their sons.

This was a 3 year disaster for SJB as a team. Father was a completed nut case. Giving his son every advantage he could. Funny thing is the reality is he only hurt the kid. The kid is really at a disadvantage because of the fathers controlling ways. This has been a big team distraction and caused an issue on a daily bases.

I agree with comment above. Suspending them for a Championship game they would have lost anyway is a reward for them this year. They should suspend them for next season. Or figure out something other than forfeiting a season that already ended.
Ridiculous... it only affects the kids, especially seniors. Where is the punishment to the people that are monitoring this(or choosing not to monitor)?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

This seems like a pretty reasonable explanation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with comment above. Suspending them for a Championship game they would have lost anyway is a reward for them this year. They should suspend them for next season. Or figure out something other than forfeiting a season that already ended.
Ridiculous... it only affects the kids, especially seniors. Where is the punishment to the people that are monitoring this(or choosing not to monitor)?

" . . .Or figure out something other than forfeiting a season that already ended." So pretty much you want them to disregard the CHSAA rules that are set out in black and white? What other rules can arbitrarily be set aside? When you disagree with the rules, you work to change the rules, not ignore them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

100% agree. Total bs and what about a kid who play varsity since 8th grade is he now limited to 4 years? did they always have this rule? kids getting left back for grades now can't play sports? basketball and football would be in trouble nation wide if so. total bs- coach W and St Ants is class act all the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

It was necessary as the rules state that is the penalty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

Your four year clock for HS level play (freshman, JV, and/or Varsity level play) does NOT start until you actually reach 9th grade. If you play at any HS level in 8th grade, it does not count as the 4 year clock has not yet begun. Why is that so hard to follow? I haven't seen anything regarding an 8th grader who had to repeat 8th grade AND played both years of 8th grade at the HS level, but absent any specifics to this, it would seem that such a SA could effectively play 6 years of HS level ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

yes he played 5 years of HS level ball while he was actually in HS. If you get left back in HS in any year, you CANNOT play more than 4 years of HS level ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

The exact reason why High School fathers' should not coach their sons.

This was a 3 year disaster for SJB as a team. Father was a completed nut case. Giving his son every advantage he could. Funny thing is the reality is he only hurt the kid. The kid is really at a disadvantage because of the fathers controlling ways. This has been a big team distraction and caused an issue on a daily bases.

Unfortunately this coach is well known in the travel lax circuit and caused many issues favoring his son. Had his son play when he should have, extra playing time ect. I am sure that is why he chose to coach SJB, so he could manipulate the situation in his son's favor. This is not uncommon in youth sports but he went above and beyond with coaching HS. Shame on SJB for letting this happen.

It was self-reported. If there was malicious intent then St. Anthony's could have just not reported it. Read the statement from the AD before you spew your rhetoric. It take about 30 seconds of Google research, but it's easier to just assume the worst and blame everyone.

Who will win the St A vs Chaminade game tonight?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No doubt on that. C-quot not the team they were last year. Coaching is weak there, last years team was an anomaly of real good players who played together for years. Now that real coaching will come in to play it will be same old C-quot.

He is a terrible coach! Quack, Quack, Quack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

Kids who are failing shouldn't be eligible to play in the first place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

Kids who are failing shouldn't be eligible to play in the first place.

Where did you read that?

Agreed if you fail you are not suppose to be eligible. But you are talking St A. The rule is grade and age. The kid could have aged out if he has an early birthday. You are only eligible to play 3 years of ball when you enter the 10th grade. Kids who get left back are not eligible because you would be seeing many get left back in 12th grade if they did not get recruited. Reason why most if not all hold back in 8th grade.

Prep schools are full all the time.

Nobody cares about Catholic league lacrosse. Sure a bunch of the best players go there, but quite frankly outside of the Catholic league people nobody gives a damn. It's all about making you above everyone else. Then after HS nobody in your town even remembers you. In fact most people think you are obnoxious that you thought you were better than everyone else. Go Wyandanch!

Scores please, stop with the complaining. Sayville takes down Mount Sinai 9-5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so a parent holds his kid back so he can be bigger but still has his kid play. 5 years of high school ball. im sure this isnt the only school this is happening in right now. seasons over, wheres the deterrence. suspend the program for next year.

the kid skipped 8th grade...wasn't holding back. Went to SA with his brother. Principle offered him to come to school for 5 yrs not the parent

you can't repeat a grade at St. As or Chami for that matter. I highly doubt the principal offered to break the rule for him

Let me get this straight ... this player finished 7th grade and the following school year went to 9th grade in Saint Anthony's. Finished 9th grade and went on to 10th grade. So at this point this player repeats 10th grade, which would now bring him back in the grade he should have been in and continues on that track to this year's graduation. Understood he played all 5 years in but there are plenty of long island players who play varsity in 8th grade and will end up playing 5 years of high school ball. He seems to be of age for a varsity player...not a hold back....plus he skipped 8th grade. Lets move on!!!

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

8th graders who play JV or Varsity are junior high school students, thus it doesn't count as playing a "5th year" of hs lacrosse. I was explained this several times by my wife who is a hs AP. Stupid and confusing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

100% agree. Total bs and what about a kid who play varsity since 8th grade is he now limited to 4 years? did they always have this rule? kids getting left back for grades now can't play sports? basketball and football would be in trouble nation wide if so. total bs- coach W and St Ants is class act all the way

Time to get back to the Lax that really matters, NYS Championship season. Nobody gives a Rats [lacrosse] about the sissies depressed they can't play in a game that nobody but them cares about. The exciting games start tomorrow! Can't wait to see these boys battle it out!

Miller Place over Bayport-Bluepoint 17-7

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

100% agree. Total bs and what about a kid who play varsity since 8th grade is he now limited to 4 years? did they always have this rule? kids getting left back for grades now can't play sports? basketball and football would be in trouble nation wide if so. total bs- coach W and St Ants is class act all the way

Time to get back to the Lax that really matters, NYS Championship season. Nobody gives a Rats [lacrosse] about the sissies depressed they can't play in a game that nobody but them cares about. The exciting games start tomorrow! Can't wait to see these boys battle it out!

Junior, get off your dads computer! WHAT GROWN MAN CALLS ANOTHER ONE A SISSY?? Maybe it is some type of xy chromosome deficient who between ordering his summer rompers has time to come on here and speak like a 12 year old! Do you say oopsie daisies when you fall over your big fat mouth??HACK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.stanthonyshs.org/important-boys-varsity-lacrosse-announcement/

The bigger question is why it took them until the end of the season to report this, the coach, AD and front office should be verifying these, no?

Everybody on LI would have known about this and screamed bloody murder if this was a top flight player, all the kids from his summer team and middle school would have known about it. This was NOT cheating or some sort of systematic corruption, it was an over site. The kid is not a starter and they were not cheating to win games. I have no inside information but I would guess nobody knew about this and might have had something to do with graduation when somebody noticed that he had 5 years of lacrosse at the school.

No investigation needed, no further punishment - I believe cancelling the game was not necessary.

100% agree. Total bs and what about a kid who play varsity since 8th grade is he now limited to 4 years? did they always have this rule? kids getting left back for grades now can't play sports? basketball and football would be in trouble nation wide if so. total bs- coach W and St Ants is class act all the way

Time to get back to the Lax that really matters, NYS Championship season. Nobody gives a Rats [lacrosse] about the sissies depressed they can't play in a game that nobody but them cares about. The exciting games start tomorrow! Can't wait to see these boys battle it out!

Junior, get off your dads computer! WHAT GROWN MAN CALLS ANOTHER ONE A SISSY?? Maybe it is some type of xy chromosome deficient who between ordering his summer rompers has time to come on here and speak like a 12 year old! Do you say oopsie daisies when you fall over your big fat mouth??HACK

Why you so mad, sissie? Stay in yo lane, you know the one on the right

Rp takes out hills in OT

Was at the game. Miller Place is legit, they are deep

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

Point 2

I doubt an school ever played 2 games in one day during HS season. As far as individual players, you need a full overnight before you can play a second game. You can dress and be on the bench but can't step on the field.

Where did these facts come about on the St A student? BOTC is entertaining but hardly a source of factual information.

Originally Posted by America's Game

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

100% - great post.
league officials (rules or not), failed to apply any sense of logic... Who in the world punishes kids for adults failures??
Horrible job by The League, St Anthony's, Chaminade AD, HS sports writers (Newsday and News12 - complete jokes) failing to stand up, and hold those responsible accountable... opposed to the kids looking to Compete in the final game of their HS career...

Comsewogue over Harborfields 6-5 in OT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

100% - great post.
league officials (rules or not), failed to apply any sense of logic... Who in the world punishes kids for adults failures??
Horrible job by The League, St Anthony's, Chaminade AD, HS sports writers (Newsday and News12 - complete jokes) failing to stand up, and hold those responsible accountable... opposed to the kids looking to Compete in the final game of their HS career...

So basically, the league should have suspended the rules so the game could be played. Use that logic with all rules, hey I stole because I needed the money! Doesn't work, rules are black and white, not gray. The coaches at St. A did what was right. The league did what was right. Hopefully this never happens again. Case is closed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

incorrect - lots of kids born in November and all kids born in December, January, February, March, April, May and June (if birthday is before graduation date) will be 18 at Graduation

Upset.....?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Actually they have some talent and I agree you cannot blame everything on the coaching staff but one county title back in 2001 is old and stale and they have had some tremendous talent over the years. They were up 7 - 5 with about 6 minutes left and lost. When they went up 7 - 5 wouldn't you tell you very good faceoff kid, no matter what win the draw and lets settle on offense. The kid won draw and went to cage, stripped from behind, back the other way and wham 7 - 6 game. There never seems to be a game plan and that always leads to turnovers. Time to make a change IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

incorrect - lots of kids born in November and all kids born in December, January, February, March, April, May and June (if birthday is before graduation date) will be 18 at Graduation

my son was born in March will be 17 when he graduates. so you held your child back from kindergarten.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

incorrect - lots of kids born in November and all kids born in December, January, February, March, April, May and June (if birthday is before graduation date) will be 18 at Graduation

my son was born in March will be 17 when he graduates. so you held your child back from kindergarten.

lay off the pipe... a proper Jan -June child will be 18 at the time of graduation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

100% - great post.
league officials (rules or not), failed to apply any sense of logic... Who in the world punishes kids for adults failures??
Horrible job by The League, St Anthony's, Chaminade AD, HS sports writers (Newsday and News12 - complete jokes) failing to stand up, and hold those responsible accountable... opposed to the kids looking to Compete in the final game of their HS career...

So basically, the league should have suspended the rules so the game could be played. Use that logic with all rules, hey I stole because I needed the money! Doesn't work, rules are black and white, not gray. The coaches at St. A did what was right. The league did what was right. Hopefully this never happens again. Case is closed.

I am sorry but the 1st post is spot on. The admin and coaches are the ones to blame not all the kids. Who really was punished in this situation? The players who did nothing wrong, that's who. These are kids playing for the love of the game. Not for money. Game should have been played as a scrimmage.

Is it true that WM starting goalie is out with a concussion ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Wantagh didn't play anyone! When they did they lost. They almost lost against Seaford. How can you say it coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Manhasset lost to Darien.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Actually they have some talent and I agree you cannot blame everything on the coaching staff but one county title back in 2001 is old and stale and they have had some tremendous talent over the years. They were up 7 - 5 with about 6 minutes left and lost. When they went up 7 - 5 wouldn't you tell you very good faceoff kid, no matter what win the draw and lets settle on offense. The kid won draw and went to cage, stripped from behind, back the other way and wham 7 - 6 game. There never seems to be a game plan and that always leads to turnovers. Time to make a change IMO

They have had a lot of talent in the past. This year they have not beating an above average team this season. Very easy schedule in a weak division. Cant blame coaches. As far as the past county titles they cant get past GC!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

100% - great post.
league officials (rules or not), failed to apply any sense of logic... Who in the world punishes kids for adults failures??
Horrible job by The League, St Anthony's, Chaminade AD, HS sports writers (Newsday and News12 - complete jokes) failing to stand up, and hold those responsible accountable... opposed to the kids looking to Compete in the final game of their HS career...

So basically, the league should have suspended the rules so the game could be played. Use that logic with all rules, hey I stole because I needed the money! Doesn't work, rules are black and white, not gray. The coaches at St. A did what was right. The league did what was right. Hopefully this never happens again. Case is closed.

I am sorry but the 1st post is spot on. The admin and coaches are the ones to blame not all the kids. Who really was punished in this situation? The players who did nothing wrong, that's who. These are kids playing for the love of the game. Not for money. Game should have been played as a scrimmage.

The program was punished, the boys are part of the program. It is unfortunate, but the rules are the rules. You cannot bend them to suit your will. What if one of the boys had committed some heinous crime? Do you punish the team? The coach? Who, where is the line drawn? It is a bum deal for sure, but that is that. The media has no responsibility to make a stand for the team, they have a responsibility for reporting the news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that WM starting goalie is out with a concussion ?

That could prove to make for an interesting game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I see the WM closer than that. It will come down to the faceoffs and the goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Wantagh didn't play anyone! When they did they lost. They almost lost against Seaford. How can you say it coaching?

Your comment means it is all the players fault? Are the coaches held responsible in this scenario as well? Are you saying they have no talent but the coaching got them past Seaford!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Actually they have some talent and I agree you cannot blame everything on the coaching staff but one county title back in 2001 is old and stale and they have had some tremendous talent over the years. They were up 7 - 5 with about 6 minutes left and lost. When they went up 7 - 5 wouldn't you tell you very good faceoff kid, no matter what win the draw and lets settle on offense. The kid won draw and went to cage, stripped from behind, back the other way and wham 7 - 6 game. There never seems to be a game plan and that always leads to turnovers. Time to make a change IMO

They have had a lot of talent in the past. This year they have not beating an above average team this season. Very easy schedule in a weak division. Cant blame coaches. As far as the past county titles they cant get past GC!

Again, by beating bad teams and losing to better teams is not only a reflection of the players on the field, the coaches need to take some responsibility as well. They cannot get past GC because GC in my opinion is a well coached team that has a system that you had better buy into if you want to get on the field. It is a two way street...

Original poster clearly stated repeating in high school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Another "rules don't matter" person - SMH!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Original poster clearly stated repeating in high school

Sooo, if its one BOTC its factual?

and please define upset..SSHS was a #5 they WHS were a #4..every game these 2 teams play is close..and by horrible call do you mean the actually counted how many WHS players were across midfield making them offsides? but at least the WHS fans handled it classy..not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Actually they have some talent and I agree you cannot blame everything on the coaching staff but one county title back in 2001 is old and stale and they have had some tremendous talent over the years. They were up 7 - 5 with about 6 minutes left and lost. When they went up 7 - 5 wouldn't you tell you very good faceoff kid, no matter what win the draw and lets settle on offense. The kid won draw and went to cage, stripped from behind, back the other way and wham 7 - 6 game. There never seems to be a game plan and that always leads to turnovers. Time to make a change IMO

They have had a lot of talent in the past. This year they have not beating an above average team this season. Very easy schedule in a weak division. Cant blame coaches. As far as the past county titles they cant get past GC!

Again, by beating bad teams and losing to better teams is not only a reflection of the players on the field, the coaches need to take some responsibility as well. They cannot get past GC because GC in my opinion is a well coached team that has a system that you had better buy into if you want to get on the field. It is a two way

Until they get new coaching they never will win the big game. GC Manhasset or any other team with good coaching. Changes long overdue there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I see the WM closer than that. It will come down to the faceoffs and the goalies.

What are you the self appointed lax guru of high school lacrosse, nobody cares about your predictions

Wantagh kids need to buy in, stop being me first players. Sorry but a coaching change is not going to fix the attitude problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

incorrect - lots of kids born in November and all kids born in December, January, February, March, April, May and June (if birthday is before graduation date) will be 18 at Graduation

my son was born in March will be 17 when he graduates. so you held your child back from kindergarten.

That is just not correct. March on grade kid would be 18 at graduation. Your son must be very smart to be so far ahead of his peers.

He is just trying to start an adult conversation about games. clearly post was not meant for a 2 year old like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I see the WM closer than that. It will come down to the faceoffs and the goalies.

What are you the self appointed lax guru of high school lacrosse, nobody cares about your predictions

What are you, the [lacrosse] of botc? You shouldn't be on here if you don't want to discuss the upcoming games. Plenty of people care. County and State Championships are on the line.

Maybe South Side just beat Wantagh?

Obviously you are not from Wantagh and know the inner working of the team for the past 10 years like I do. There is No game planning with film like every other top team in the county. There is No scouting of up coming opponents. There are no adjustments to the styles that your opponents play. They haven't ran a offense with motion and off ball movement for years, if they don't have the Stud player which they had a few the offense is stagnet. That has nothing to do with the talent of players. it has to do with the Coaching staffs commitment and willingness to prepare to be the best. Granted over the years their has been some selfish play and attitude issues with players but it was acceptable behavior in the mind of the coaching staff with No consequences Discipline starts with coaching at every level of play therefore it the coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Another "rules don't matter" person - SMH!

No not another rules dont matter person, just the opposite.

Weather a factor today yes they both play in it but not everyone reacts the same to it.

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

Someone explain why the SJB JV team didn't play their playoff game? Didn't they come in forth and weren't they supposed to play ST.Anthony's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Another "rules don't matter" person - SMH!

No not another rules dont matter person, just the opposite.

How can you say you are a rules matter person when you say they should have NOT done what the rules clearly called for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone explain why the SJB JV team didn't play their playoff game? Didn't they come in forth and weren't they supposed to play ST.Anthony's?

Not sure JV goes to a 4th place. TMK, it has always been 2nd plays 3rd, winner then plays 1st seed (who gets a bye). Also not sure how many teams make up the CHSAA JV division, but who cares right its JV. Is it true they'll be moving up a sophomore at Chaminade? is it the ole rumor mill? or is it a DOB thing and where there's smoke there's fire?

Why yes SSHS did win 8-7, it says so in Newsday article. However, what the article omitted was the classy behavior of the WHS fans dreaming and cursing at refs and opposing fans when the game ended.

Obviously there are many dysfunctional programs on the Island. Both in Catholic and Public schools. Coaching seems to be the topic of discussion as teams seasons come to an end. Most feel their teams have under achieved and the reason is poor coaching. Many come on here to air out their issues. Some name their program others just speak their mind. I have read a few comments like why don't you speak to your coach or why air it out here. This is just my opinion but I think a lot of these people have spoken to their coaches or fear the consequences That the coach might take out on their child.

More often than not the coaches feel they are doing a great job. That they can not see the error in the way they are coaching. Some coaches just lack knowledge, some lack character and as a result they do a poor job coaching. There are also those coaches who fail to evolve with the game. Things they were doing 10 years ago that worked now dont. Their player selection isn't based on who's the better player or developing a player. They play favorites to certain families and or friends and even clubs. Programs see it all the time. When their team plays a well coached program they are exposed as weak yet they fail to realize it. I think this is where parents and booster clubs need to intervene. Speak up as a united front. You support the program. Pay for training, indoor practices, equipment, extra coaches. You have every right to speak to the coach.

I was at the game in the stands and I am a SSHS parent. I was unaware of any improper behavior by Wantagh parents/fans. Great game. The boys on both teams played hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

Sorry to say but a good coach can make individuals play like a team. If a player doesn't want to or won't follow the directions the coach sets out they sit. When a certain play is called for and the player doesn't run it they sit. And you create that culture from the very 1st day-of 'practice Coaches don't realize that the players are kids and they will bend the rules as much as they can until they are reprimanded If a coach does not realize that the kids watch everything he does from how and when he comes to practice does he come early does he leave early or does he leave late so many things play into the way the players respect you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obviously you are not from Wantagh and know the inner working of the team for the past 10 years like I do. There is No game planning with film like every other top team in the county. There is No scouting of up coming opponents. There are no adjustments to the styles that your opponents play. They haven't ran a offense with motion and off ball movement for years, if they don't have the Stud player which they had a few the offense is stagnet. That has nothing to do with the talent of players. it has to do with the Coaching staffs commitment and willingness to prepare to be the best. Granted over the years their has been some selfish play and attitude issues with players but it was acceptable behavior in the mind of the coaching staff with No consequences Discipline starts with coaching at every level of play therefore it the coaching.

Note to BOTC, you win some you lose some. The coaches and refs aren't to blame. Sometimes your sons team was just not good enough. But that's sports, there is always a loser and a winner. It's okay. That's why there are high school sports, to teach them teamwork, spirit and to handle adversity. It's good for them. So don't be sad, and don't blame the coach or the referee, just tell your boy he did great!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

And who is to blame? It starts with the coach. The seasons outcome relies on what this coach gets from the JV. Wantagh has a do nothing coach that divides the kids into those that can do no right and those that can do no wrong. I guess 16 years without a big win is always the kids fault year after year. If the kids are not a team who do you blame? The kids? It's the coaches job to get the kids to buy in. Not happening here. Just a teacher with a side job. Nothing more. He should step aside and give the kids a chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Note to BOTC, you win some you lose some. The coaches and refs aren't to blame. Sometimes your sons team was just not good enough. But that's sports, there is always a loser and a winner. It's okay. That's why there are high school sports, to teach them teamwork, spirit and to handle adversity. It's good for them. So don't be sad, and don't blame the coach or the referee, just tell your boy he did great!

A bad coach can 100% influence on the outcome of a game. Poor substitutions, poor player management, poor preparation and a poor work ethic that the coach brings to the team. Late to practice, first to leave practice. Just like a good coach can also influence the outcome of a game in his teams favor. Just replace poor with great in the previous sentences. Coach comes early, leaves late and is prepared everyday. Coaching is more than just putting players on the field. It's about preparation, practices that are well planned and intense like game situations. You play like you practice and if you don't practice with intensity you will play the same way. When you play an opponent that is just as equally skilled as your team the coaching and preparation makes all the difference. Thats why good coaches are in such high demand. Many are not aware of what it takes to have a successful lacrosse program on Long Island. Look at Chaminade with the talent that they have and all the D1 and top D3 commits they have I am surprised they lose a game. Yet a well coach team with 10 good players can beat a horribly coached team with 10 great players any day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Another "rules don't matter" person - SMH!

No not another rules dont matter person, just the opposite.

How can you say you are a rules matter person when you say they should have NOT done what the rules clearly called for?

Great games today, seems to have gone as expected. Predictions for next round?

I have the Smithtowns in overtime, and West winning. This is only if West dominates F/O like they did first game.

WM over Hills by 2, but if Hills can limit mistakes, they could win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

And who is to blame? It starts with the coach. The seasons outcome relies on what this coach gets from the JV. Wantagh has a do nothing coach that divides the kids into those that can do no right and those that can do no wrong. I guess 16 years without a big win is always the kids fault year after year. If the kids are not a team who do you blame? The kids? It's the coaches job to get the kids to buy in. Not happening here. Just a teacher with a side job. Nothing more. He should step aside and give the kids a chance.

No senior leadership, no off season workouts, no communication between upperclassmen and the boys coming up. It's the players, they have no cohesion, that's not on the coach

You will always blame the coach, can't be your kid, he's willing to put the time in, except he doesn't, and the dedication and desire aren't there, and that's on the kids, but to admit that hurts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Note to BOTC, you win some you lose some. The coaches and refs aren't to blame. Sometimes your sons team was just not good enough. But that's sports, there is always a loser and a winner. It's okay. That's why there are high school sports, to teach them teamwork, spirit and to handle adversity. It's good for them. So don't be sad, and don't blame the coach or the referee, just tell your boy he did great!

You are 100% correct there is always a winner and a loser. The issue at hand is when a coaches decision making actually has negativel influences on a games outcome. If a game is well played and well coached it's really pretty to watch. As a fan of the game you walk away thinking how great that particular game was and that both teams played well. Most teams fail to achieve their potential due to poor coaching. Players make mistakes and that's fine it's part of sports. Yet if there is no plan that the coach wants the players to execute, who's fault is it when the team plays poorly? I would say the coaches. Even teams that dont have a talent pool to draw from when well coached look some what decent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at the game in the stands and I am a SSHS parent. I was unaware of any improper behavior by Wantagh parents/fans. Great game. The boys on both teams played hard.

That is correct and thank you for the response. Of course there were some upset fans considering the offsides was called at least 5 seconds after Wantagh tied the score with 4 seconds remaining in the game. I personally have never seen a call so late. The whole team had already rushed downfield to celebrate. I live in Wantagh and have no kids on the team but kudos to both teams on a good game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obviously you are not from Wantagh and know the inner working of the team for the past 10 years like I do. There is No game planning with film like every other top team in the county. There is No scouting of up coming opponents. There are no adjustments to the styles that your opponents play. They haven't ran a offense with motion and off ball movement for years, if they don't have the Stud player which they had a few the offense is stagnet. That has nothing to do with the talent of players. it has to do with the Coaching staffs commitment and willingness to prepare to be the best. Granted over the years their has been some selfish play and attitude issues with players but it was acceptable behavior in the mind of the coaching staff with No consequences Discipline starts with coaching at every level of play therefore it the coaching.

Stop crying you lost! Your team is not that good. You can lose every year and it not be the coaches fault. You need players to play together and have right mix of talent and Wantagh doesn't have it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Wantagh didn't play anyone! When they did they lost. They almost lost against Seaford. How can you say it coaching?

Your comment means it is all the players fault? Are the coaches held responsible in this scenario as well? Are you saying they have no talent but the coaching got them past Seaford!?

obviously there is some talent on Wantagh. but you are making it sound as if the coaches are losing the game. you sound silly. You lost to South Side. No disrespect but they are just an average team as is Seaford. These teams have not beaten anyone either. If you were as talented as you think then you would have easily beat them on talent alone and moved on to the next round. You didn't lose in the final against a top team????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

And who is to blame? It starts with the coach. The seasons outcome relies on what this coach gets from the JV. Wantagh has a do nothing coach that divides the kids into those that can do no right and those that can do no wrong. I guess 16 years without a big win is always the kids fault year after year. If the kids are not a team who do you blame? The kids? It's the coaches job to get the kids to buy in. Not happening here. Just a teacher with a side job. Nothing more. He should step aside and give the kids a chance.

No senior leadership, no off season workouts, no communication between upperclassmen and the boys coming up. It's the players, they have no cohesion, that's not on the coach

A lot of very big ego's on this team & that is the parents fault not the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at the game in the stands and I am a SSHS parent. I was unaware of any improper behavior by Wantagh parents/fans. Great game. The boys on both teams played hard.

Same here SSHS parent, stayed to the very end, did not see any of this behavior, both teams played a hard fought game.

A lot of credit to WM for yesterday's win. It was 5-3 at the half when they came out and turned it on. That and also twice as many shot as Northport an winning 25 of 28 faceoffs usually get's it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

Wantagh didn't play anyone! When they did they lost. They almost lost against Seaford. How can you say it coaching?

Your comment means it is all the players fault? Are the coaches held responsible in this scenario as well? Are you saying they have no talent but the coaching got them past Seaford!?

obviously there is some talent on Wantagh. but you are making it sound as if the coaches are losing the game. you sound silly. You lost to South Side. No disrespect but they are just an average team as is Seaford. These teams have not beaten anyone either. If you were as talented as you think then you would have easily beat them on talent alone and moved on to the next round. You didn't lose in the final against a top team????

I agree it is far from 100% the coaches but past history tells you that something is not working. There has been some tremendous talent come thru the program over the years and they are always in the playoffs and in at least the semi's and always the quarters on most occasions. They have not won the counties since 2001. Are you saying there has not been enough talent in the past 16 years? I would agree in some years but like another poster said, there is no game plan, no halftime adjustments...trust me I know from experience

Again it is not all coaching but I would think after many empty years with high expectations and poor results it might be time to move in another direction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

And who is to blame? It starts with the coach. The seasons outcome relies on what this coach gets from the JV. Wantagh has a do nothing coach that divides the kids into those that can do no right and those that can do no wrong. I guess 16 years without a big win is always the kids fault year after year. If the kids are not a team who do you blame? The kids? It's the coaches job to get the kids to buy in. Not happening here. Just a teacher with a side job. Nothing more. He should step aside and give the kids a chance.

No senior leadership, no off season workouts, no communication between upperclassmen and the boys coming up. It's the players, they have no cohesion, that's not on the coach

A lot of very big ego's on this team & that is the parents fault not the coaches.

IMHO, this is a coaching issue. If you have that many kids, and family with egos it is up to the coach to keep them in check. It is also on the coach to make sure the upperclassmen, especially the captains, get the incoming varsity kids up to speed, and lay out a regiment for the captains to implement during the off season. If none of this is implemented by the captains it is on the coach to demote the kid, no matter how talented, and if still no change then outright bench them, what the [lacrosse] you're losing anyway, you might as well have some moral compass along the way. This also goes for the families of players, if parents or siblings are out of control then send a message to them by benching the player and let it be known why. Coaches need to grow a backbone and regain control of there programs. This coach needs to go, NO I DO NOT HAVE A KID ON THE TEAM, I don't even have a son. This is about coaching not gender or bias

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Note to BOTC, you win some you lose some. The coaches and refs aren't to blame. Sometimes your sons team was just not good enough. But that's sports, there is always a loser and a winner. It's okay. That's why there are high school sports, to teach them teamwork, spirit and to handle adversity. It's good for them. So don't be sad, and don't blame the coach or the referee, just tell your boy he did great!

A bad coach can 100% influence on the outcome of a game. Poor substitutions, poor player management, poor preparation and a poor work ethic that the coach brings to the team. Late to practice, first to leave practice. Just like a good coach can also influence the outcome of a game in his teams favor. Just replace poor with great in the previous sentences. Coach comes early, leaves late and is prepared everyday. Coaching is more than just putting players on the field. It's about preparation, practices that are well planned and intense like game situations. You play like you practice and if you don't practice with intensity you will play the same way. When you play an opponent that is just as equally skilled as your team the coaching and preparation makes all the difference. Thats why good coaches are in such high demand. Many are not aware of what it takes to have a successful lacrosse program on Long Island. Look at Chaminade with the talent that they have and all the D1 and top D3 commits they have I am surprised they lose a game. Yet a well coach team with 10 good players can beat a horribly coached team with 10 great players any day.

Quality of coaching Has the greatest influence on a HS program's success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can the kids buy in to a broken system. Wantagh gets out coached every year. Is it the kids every single year? The kids change yet the result is always the same. The coach is the only constant. Alot of those same kids play football and baseball. Why would they buy in there but not into lax.

It's the kids, they are not a team, they are individuals wearing the same uniform.

And who is to blame? It starts with the coach. The seasons outcome relies on what this coach gets from the JV. Wantagh has a do nothing coach that divides the kids into those that can do no right and those that can do no wrong. I guess 16 years without a big win is always the kids fault year after year. If the kids are not a team who do you blame? The kids? It's the coaches job to get the kids to buy in. Not happening here. Just a teacher with a side job. Nothing more. He should step aside and give the kids a chance.

No senior leadership, no off season workouts, no communication between upperclassmen and the boys coming up. It's the players, they have no cohesion, that's not on the coach

A lot of very big ego's on this team & that is the parents fault not the coaches.

IMHO, this is a coaching issue. If you have that many kids, and family with egos it is up to the coach to keep them in check. It is also on the coach to make sure the upperclassmen, especially the captains, get the incoming varsity kids up to speed, and lay out a regiment for the captains to implement during the off season. If none of this is implemented by the captains it is on the coach to demote the kid, no matter how talented, and if still no change then outright bench them, what the [lacrosse] you're losing anyway, you might as well have some moral compass along the way. This also goes for the families of players, if parents or siblings are out of control then send a message to them by benching the player and let it be known why. Coaches need to grow a backbone and regain control of there programs. This coach needs to go, NO I DO NOT HAVE A KID ON THE TEAM, I don't even have a son. This is about coaching not gender or bias

This is the reason that Wantagh can't win. From the posts above there are some real issues with the 2017 & 2018 grades. Specifically with the Captains of the team. This more of a parent issue then a coach issue. Good luck.

Wantagh coach has stayed way longer than he should have. Time for him to get out of the way.

Your main kid and captain a lot more goals then assist.

Bring the screaming idiot back from Farmingdale

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

So if your kid doesn't play the coach sucks, if the team loses the coach sucks. Maybe your kid and the rest of the team are just not that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Maybe the coaches aren't wearing the same kind of rose colored glasses you use to assess your son's ability. Oh, and you can always have your kid transfer to SA or Chaminade, they are always looking for top notch talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Maybe the coaches aren't wearing the same kind of rose colored glasses you use to assess your son's ability. Oh, and you can always have your kid transfer to SA or Chaminade, they are always looking for top notch talent.

My brother you are on point!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Maybe the coaches aren't wearing the same kind of rose colored glasses you use to assess your son's ability. Oh, and you can always have your kid transfer to SA or Chaminade, they are always looking for top notch talent.

My brother you are on point!

Maybe St Anthony's - Chaminade doesn't take transfers (or recruits athletic talent)

How do Varsity Public School players receive awards such as all county or all division? Is it pushed by their Coach? Thanks in advance for your information.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do Varsity Public School players receive awards such as all county or all division? Is it pushed by their Coach? Thanks in advance for your information.

Yes it is initially pushed by HC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SJB Admin promising change out of all coach's for next season in the boys lax program. There have been many complaints for last three years. Biggest complaint is with the D coach and his son. Special treatment for son, O coaches can't yell at him, while all the better players get there fair share of tongue lashings, he coaches his son and goes against the other coaches openly for selfish reasons, big distraction for the team. This team had some talent but because of the selfish father & son they won 3 games. The D coach is a big head case and is disliked by the other coaches but the head coach didn't reign him in. So there are all suppose to be going???

The exact reason why High School fathers' should not coach their sons.

This was a 3 year disaster for SJB as a team. Father was a completed nut case. Giving his son every advantage he could. Funny thing is the reality is he only hurt the kid. The kid is really at a disadvantage because of the fathers controlling ways. This has been a big team distraction and caused an issue on a daily bases.

Unfortunately this coach is well known in the travel lax circuit and caused many issues favoring his son. Had his son play when he should have, extra playing time ect. I am sure that is why he chose to coach SJB, so he could manipulate the situation in his son's favor. This is not uncommon in youth sports but he went above and beyond with coaching HS. Shame on SJB for letting this happen.

The SJB D coach is a clown and has caused many issues in years past in travel lax in East Islip and at SJB. This guys should not be allowed to coach period. He is a typically father living through his son. Boy he must be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do Varsity Public School players receive awards such as all county or all division? Is it pushed by their Coach? Thanks in advance for your information.

head coach starts the process, but opposing coaches in the same conference vote too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Maybe the coaches aren't wearing the same kind of rose colored glasses you use to assess your son's ability. Oh, and you can always have your kid transfer to SA or Chaminade, they are always looking for top notch talent.

Or maybe it is you who has the family, club, and booster ties and "work it" so your kid keeps playing....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now thats funny!!! "Coaches need to grow a backbone..." any coach today that 'grows a backbone' will be out on his [lacrosse] as per the lunatic parents that are running the show at just about every HS on long island!! Gimme a break!

So I guess that explains a lot about who coaches play. This is the sad state of affairs of lacrosse on Long Island. Seen it happen all the time better players sitting on the bench all the while the chosen ones are running out of gas on the field making bad decisions and horrible plays.

Are you sure?

Most coaches want to win, and play the kids who give best chance of achieving that objective. Maybe one or two cases (Manhasset last year), but generally coaches play the right kids. Unless you are at every practice and can see each kid play within the offense or defense you can't assess who the best kids are within the program framework. Just because a kid is a star at a recruiting event where individual play is the norm, doesn't mean the same kid is best fit for a given team's offense / defense.

100% sure. There are coaches that play players based on family ties, club ties, booster club ties over other players. It's sad but true. Also some coaches couldn't see talent if it smacked them in the face.

Maybe the coaches aren't wearing the same kind of rose colored glasses you use to assess your son's ability. Oh, and you can always have your kid transfer to SA or Chaminade, they are always looking for top notch talent.

Or maybe it is you who has the family, club, and booster ties and "work it" so your kid keeps playing....

You're a cry baby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

Point 2

I doubt an school ever played 2 games in one day during HS season. As far as individual players, you need a full overnight before you can play a second game. You can dress and be on the bench but can't step on the field.

1. Not true, no public schools have any player ever playing after their senior year. Not talking about an eighth grader playing varsity and than playing four more years for a total of five years. Talking about players playing HS level lacrosse after graduation.

2. This is true but again an eight grader repeating like this is really rare in the public schools.

3., 4. Once again public schools have far smaller geographic boundaries and public school coaches recruiting kids from other towns to move their families so Johnny can play lacrosse?? Never happens, as a matter of fact I can only think of one or two occasions this happened (Hicksville to Sachem a few years back).

5. Really?, I think you missed the point again. We are talking about an even playing field among the top teams. All conferences and divisions have weaker teams, no way to get around that. While I agree there should be a better system than what is in place for making sure lower level teams play fewer upper level teams, The point is when we are talking about the top teams there should be a separation between public and private. Not trying to take anything away from the privates and the PG schools i think they play great lacrosse and the teams should cross over and play each other, it makes for great lacrosse but when it comes to rankings it just unfair.

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

you are wrong. if you son was born in march, and entered kindergarden when he was 5, he will be 18 when he graduates. Unless he entered kindergarden when he was 4.

The committee has just had our weekly meeting and feel it is time again to make a ruling, so here goes.

An "on age" kid born Between Dec. 1st and June (what ever the date of the graduation is) will be 18 at the time of their graduation. A kid born between 9/1 and 11/30 can also be 18 at graduation and not be considered a hold back if they started kindergarten late.

If you are 19 or will turn 19 the summer after graduation you are a hold back.

The committee is not passing judgement just making an official ruling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

Point 2

I doubt an school ever played 2 games in one day during HS season. As far as individual players, you need a full overnight before you can play a second game. You can dress and be on the bench but can't step on the field.

Point 2,

Wonder if any LI, West, CT or NJ teams have played a Jv or Varsity game in the same day same location and were stupid enough to have players play in both (and play not just suit up). i also believe there is a max amount of game you can play. That would be similar to the ridiculous ruling that hampered a basketball team a few years back (Freeport maybe).

Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Have ur son transfer to SA and start again from 9th grade... Don't worry SA AD and Head Coach on board with this approach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Looks like the D coach just chimed in. This program has been in decline for 3 years since you started coaching. anyone can see that. You are really sad. pretending to be a parent while defending your self. You couldn't coach your way out of a paper bag!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Varsity High School coaching jobs are not full time, THEY are the side business, not whatever he does for a living full time. Pay the man $100k and you'll get full time.

Where are we now Sayville Lacrosse? We've had two years to assess the removal of Coach Doller, is the program better or worse?

Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.

That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.

Not sure about the quaterback thing (just don't have any info there, but everything else is spot on) but every other word of the original statement is true. What wasn't mentioned is that Superintendent hasn't been a fan of Coach D for years and has been waiting for a situation to burn him. He got his chance minutes after the board just took another beating from the public from the lax parents that night in February, (might I add another black eye brought on by the Superintendent upon which he has made the board look stupid and weak several times in the last two years). The board was angry and Super immediately put coach d's firing to a vote immediately after this meeting. It was approved at this meeting. So this all was done in the same night of that meeting. The BOE has had so many black eyes and looked so flip-floppy weak they couldn't back down on this one, to the detriment of our kids. Time for Super to go. #FWS

The only embarrassment here is the Super. The community has nothing to be ashamed of. Coach D. is well on his way to much more lucrative pastures in his new partnerships, and will be better off financially ten-fold to what he lost on a silly coaching salary. He will still have a positive impact on our community, and help out young lacrosse players. It will just be on his terms and will cost more to be a part of his program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Varsity High School coaching jobs are not full time, THEY are the side business, not whatever he does for a living full time. Pay the man $100k and you'll get full time.

I hate this type of comment, do you get paid, then do your job. Your job at its best. You don't like the $$ then leave don't half [lacrosse] it. Sure you get what you pay for but do your job!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are we now Sayville Lacrosse? We've had two years to assess the removal of Coach Doller, is the program better or worse?

Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.

That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.

Not sure about the quaterback thing (just don't have any info there, but everything else is spot on) but every other word of the original statement is true. What wasn't mentioned is that Superintendent hasn't been a fan of Coach D for years and has been waiting for a situation to burn him. He got his chance minutes after the board just took another beating from the public from the lax parents that night in February, (might I add another black eye brought on by the Superintendent upon which he has made the board look stupid and weak several times in the last two years). The board was angry and Super immediately put coach d's firing to a vote immediately after this meeting. It was approved at this meeting. So this all was done in the same night of that meeting. The BOE has had so many black eyes and looked so flip-floppy weak they couldn't back down on this one, to the detriment of our kids. Time for Super to go. #FWS

The only embarrassment here is the Super. The community has nothing to be ashamed of. Coach D. is well on his way to much more lucrative pastures in his new partnerships, and will be better off financially ten-fold to what he lost on a silly coaching salary. He will still have a positive impact on our community, and help out young lacrosse players. It will just be on his terms and will cost more to be a part of his program.

Again.....you let the landscaper run the board etc. As far as a football town......cmon Please....you play in Suffolk Div 3 level. If you had to play some real football you would get smoked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused, I agree that if the rule in NYS is "four years" of play than they should accept punishment and move on. But what gets me is that you routinely see other top lacrosse schools that offer PG programs that play fifth year seniors or PG players and this seems to be just fine as it relates to rankings and recruiting. Just look at the rankings on Inside Lacrosse every year. Most of the top teams are playing fifth year kids anyway, not to mention that like St. Anthony's they recruit kids to play there and are not restricted to set geographic boundaries like the public schools. Isn't it time to have two classifications in the rankings, one for geographically restricted public schools and one for non geographically restricted private schools with PG kids. Not trying to take anything away from either school type but I think it would offer a more even playing field in determining rankings. Lets call it what it is, private and private PG schools have an upper hand both in geography of recruits as well as fifth year players on their rosters. It creates an uneven playing field. If private and private PG schools were in one classification and public schools were in another as it relates to rankings this incident wouldn't even be an issue. I am all for the teams crossing over and playing each other, but we need separate classifications at this point.

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

Point 2

I doubt an school ever played 2 games in one day during HS season. As far as individual players, you need a full overnight before you can play a second game. You can dress and be on the bench but can't step on the field.

1. Not true, no public schools have any player ever playing after their senior year. Not talking about an eighth grader playing varsity and than playing four more years for a total of five years. Talking about players playing HS level lacrosse after graduation.

2. This is true but again an eight grader repeating like this is really rare in the public schools.

3., 4. Once again public schools have far smaller geographic boundaries and public school coaches recruiting kids from other towns to move their families so Johnny can play lacrosse?? Never happens, as a matter of fact I can only think of one or two occasions this happened (Hicksville to Sachem a few years back).

5. Really?, I think you missed the point again. We are talking about an even playing field among the top teams. All conferences and divisions have weaker teams, no way to get around that. While I agree there should be a better system than what is in place for making sure lower level teams play fewer upper level teams, The point is when we are talking about the top teams there should be a separation between public and private. Not trying to take anything away from the privates and the PG schools i think they play great lacrosse and the teams should cross over and play each other, it makes for great lacrosse but when it comes to rankings it just unfair.

2 - Run for the Hills if you want to do this in public, no?

5 - We are talking even playing field. Once the teams are established or you know what the teams will be for the next year - you can set the stage for competitive games, Public or Private, that is the point. This can be accomplished on LI if you wanted to. It starts with Li sections allow for 5 non league games (not just 2), mandate more than just the top 5 cant play teams 13 and below. This could also allow for a better playoff, less rematches and more build ups for Playoffs. Maybe Ward Melvile doesn't play Smithtown in the regular season, but plays (Darien CSh and Hill or Culver) and then run head-on into the Playoffs against Smithown. This could make lacrosse great again, it starts with the schedule. Help make all the games to be 5 goals games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Varsity High School coaching jobs are not full time, THEY are the side business, not whatever he does for a living full time. Pay the man $100k and you'll get full time.

I hate this type of comment, do you get paid, then do your job. Your job at its best. You don't like the $$ then leave don't half [lacrosse] it. Sure you get what you pay for but do your job!

You should look at the context. The comment was made in response to a poster writing that the team isn't performing because the coach is dividing his time with a side business. The man has to make a living.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Varsity High School coaching jobs are not full time, THEY are the side business, not whatever he does for a living full time. Pay the man $100k and you'll get full time.

I hate this type of comment, do you get paid, then do your job. Your job at its best. You don't like the $$ then leave don't half [lacrosse] it. Sure you get what you pay for but do your job!

You should look at the context. The comment was made in response to a poster writing that the team isn't performing because the coach is dividing his time with a side business. The man has to make a living.

Ok let's be clear, he has his regular job that pays his salary and the HS coaching job that gets him extra and then he has his club lacrosse organization (job 3) to fully cash in. Maybe his HS kids should get a little more attention.

East Islip Lacrosse

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

Varsity High School coaching jobs are not full time, THEY are the side business, not whatever he does for a living full time. Pay the man $100k and you'll get full time.

I hate this type of comment, do you get paid, then do your job. Your job at its best. You don't like the $$ then leave don't half [lacrosse] it. Sure you get what you pay for but do your job!

You should look at the context. The comment was made in response to a poster writing that the team isn't performing because the coach is dividing his time with a side business. The man has to make a living.

Ok let's be clear, he has his regular job that pays his salary and the HS coaching job that gets him extra and then he has his club lacrosse organization (job 3) to fully cash in. Maybe his HS kids should get a little more attention.

Unfortunately, you get what you pay for with HS coaches, which is anywhere from bare minimum for the money paid to those that invest much more of their time than the pay warrants. And that last part is key - the coaches in the latter group are putting in more than they are getting back. If you look at it truly from a monetary aspect, the HS teaching is job 1, the club is job 2, and the HS coaching is job 3, and under that POV, the time spent will be proportionate to each in that order. This is never going to change so long as schools look to fill their coaching ranks primarily with in-school teachers, then outside-school teachers, and then non-teachers.[b][/b]

Picks for tomorrow's Nassau semis @ Hostra?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picks for tomorrow's Nassau semis @ Hostra?

what about today's games...

Port vs pequ Looking good 1st qtr over 1-1

Port v Pequa 4 v 4 2 mins to half

Halftime 5-4 pequa. Last second goal before half (great move by attack took on a few defenders) just squeaked one in, thought it was saved but trinkled in

East Islip wins Suffolk B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picks for tomorrow's Nassau semis @ Hostra?

what about today's games...

Port vs pequ Looking good 1st qtr over 1-1

Just toying with Port for the first half.

here we go Pequa, doubling up Port 8-4. Port Attk has got to calm down. caused turnover, uncaused and now a delay of game. Wheels falling off the bus for Port

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Teacher
asst coach
head coach
summer program director

that's at least 4 jobs, most college head coaches only have 1 job. I would hope it pays better, this person works much harder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

players do no have to be in the summer program, it is so obvious who the coach you are referring to. @$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picks for tomorrow's Nassau semis @ Hostra?

what about today's games...

Port vs pequ Looking good 1st qtr over 1-1

Just toying with Port for the first half.

Not toying, but did come out ahead in the second half

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Can we stop, teaching is a part time job, especially when it's HS and even more so in the good lacrosse districts that don't pose some of the "risks" that other, less financially sound, districts can offer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picks for tomorrow's Nassau semis @ Hostra?

what about today's games...

Port vs pequ Looking good 1st qtr over 1-1

Just toying with Port for the first half.

Tail of two halfs. toying? could have been down 4-2 going into half

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

players do no have to be in the summer program, it is so obvious who the coach you are referring to. @$$

I am not saying who I am talking about but he has a construction company, puts his name on buildings, hosted a reality show and is now president.... just making a generic comment about "somebody"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Teacher
asst coach
head coach
summer program director

that's at least 4 jobs, most college head coaches only have 1 job. I would hope it pays better, this person works much harder.

That has to be a joke as a reply, right? Works harder? Don't make me laugh!

Pequa by a lot. was there ever a doubt?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa by a lot. was there ever a doubt?

Blowout. In the words of Warner Wolf, if you had Port and ten goals, "You Lose!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa by a lot. was there ever a doubt?

Yes, at the end of the 1st half....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa by a lot. was there ever a doubt?

4-4 with 4 seconds left in the half and then....boooommmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa by a lot. was there ever a doubt?

4-4 with 4 seconds left in the half and then....boooommmmmmmm

Port was out coached. Massapequa was too smart for them. Saw what needed to be done and made the changes at half. Tale of 2 halves for Port. 1 good 1 nonexistent. Didn't score a goal in 2nd half.

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Looks like the D coach just chimed in. This program has been in decline for 3 years since you started coaching. anyone can see that. You are really sad. pretending to be a parent while defending your self. You couldn't coach your way out of a paper bag!

Is the D coach for SJB the guy with the really bad hair piece?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Don't need luck from you, we make our own luck.

Did port have a shot on goal in second half? i saw some on MSG varsity, no shots in the 3rd. Pequa is a very good team, Port would have had to have played the game of their lives to win that one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Teacher
asst coach
head coach
summer program director

that's at least 4 jobs, most college head coaches only have 1 job. I would hope it pays better, this person works much harder.

That has to be a joke as a reply, right? Works harder? Don't make me laugh!

What about when a coach has one of the dad's (who is a contractor) build his house?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Don't need luck from you, we make our own luck.

Pompous [lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Teacher
asst coach
head coach
summer program director

that's at least 4 jobs, most college head coaches only have 1 job. I would hope it pays better, this person works much harder.

That has to be a joke as a reply, right? Works harder? Don't make me laugh!

What about when a coach has one of the dad's (who is a contractor) build his house?

Says the jealous guy with no proof whose kid is a bench warmer. Your boy is a pretty bad lacrosse player, bottom line, get over it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how about the guy who is a teacher , asst. football coach, and head coach varsity lax ?
then overseas summer program where kids have to stay in program....
teach 2 classes of basic social studies a day.
add up the money...look it up , its actually public accessible information. look at your school district web site and budget. pays much better than virtually any college job except a few.

Teacher
asst coach
head coach
summer program director

that's at least 4 jobs, most college head coaches only have 1 job. I would hope it pays better, this person works much harder.

That has to be a joke as a reply, right? Works harder? Don't make me laugh!

What about when a coach has one of the dad's (who is a contractor) build his house?

What about the coach who has one of his dad's (who works at a gas station) pump his gas, checks his oil AND cleans his windows every time......and of course his kid starts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Looks like the D coach just chimed in. This program has been in decline for 3 years since you started coaching. anyone can see that. You are really sad. pretending to be a parent while defending your self. You couldn't coach your way out of a paper bag!

Is the D coach for SJB the guy with the really bad hair piece?

Yes he the very same. Worst person you could imagine spending time interacting with your Son. Totally favoring his son who is on the team. complete double standard. All the top kids get screamed at for every little mistake and crickets when Son makes, mistake after mistake. Even the other coach's had issues with him. Should not be allowed and the administration sat by and watched with no action.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Sad why? Do you think this site is geared towards kids???

HS coaches do NOT get paid a lot of money for coaching a team. Assistant coaches get paid less, but work the same number of hours.

The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults.

IMHO all you Self centered whiners on this blog who have over inflated opinions of their kids would do a greater service to their child if they told them to put their big boy/girl/? pants on and work on their game and attitude and stop looking for excuses.

Um, any games played yesterday?? It is playoff season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches do NOT get paid a lot of money for coaching a team. Assistant coaches get paid less, but work the same number of hours.

The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults.

IMHO all you Self centered whiners on this blog who have over inflated opinions of their kids would do a greater service to their child if they told them to put their big boy/girl/? pants on and work on their game and attitude and stop looking for excuses.

AMEN TO THAT!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, any games played yesterday?? It is playoff season.

Yes - Pequa, Set, and CSH all won. Next Q??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches do NOT get paid a lot of money for coaching a team. Assistant coaches get paid less, but work the same number of hours.

The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults.

IMHO all you Self centered whiners on this blog who have over inflated opinions of their kids would do a greater service to their child if they told them to put their big boy/girl/? pants on and work on their game and attitude and stop looking for excuses.

AMEN TO THAT!

"The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults" is 100% correct!

But there are plenty who do the minimum and even when they are presented with the gift of a talented roster, hold the kids back because they are greedy or too busy, not skilled coaches or they are lazy. One example above is the 'Quot coach who is not a very good coach and is doing paid work and is running a private program so his teams never really have a shot. So with him, even if they could be VERY good they don't get beyond his limitations.

Lets go to the video tape!!

If you had the Knicks getting 40 - guess what?...........you lost!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches do NOT get paid a lot of money for coaching a team. Assistant coaches get paid less, but work the same number of hours.

The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults.

IMHO all you Self centered whiners on this blog who have over inflated opinions of their kids would do a greater service to their child if they told them to put their big boy/girl/? pants on and work on their game and attitude and stop looking for excuses.

AMEN TO THAT!

"The good ones put in countless hours of uncompensated time to make their teams better and athletes better Young adults" is 100% correct!

But there are plenty who do the minimum and even when they are presented with the gift of a talented roster, hold the kids back because they are greedy or too busy, not skilled coaches or they are lazy. One example above is the 'Quot coach who is not a very good coach and is doing paid work and is running a private program so his teams never really have a shot. So with him, even if they could be VERY good they don't get beyond his limitations.

Yup, not the lack of talent, or lack of heart from the players, gotta be the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are we now Sayville Lacrosse? We've had two years to assess the removal of Coach Doller, is the program better or worse?

Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.

That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.

Not sure about the quaterback thing (just don't have any info there, but everything else is spot on) but every other word of the original statement is true. What wasn't mentioned is that Superintendent hasn't been a fan of Coach D for years and has been waiting for a situation to burn him. He got his chance minutes after the board just took another beating from the public from the lax parents that night in February, (might I add another black eye brought on by the Superintendent upon which he has made the board look stupid and weak several times in the last two years). The board was angry and Super immediately put coach d's firing to a vote immediately after this meeting. It was approved at this meeting. So this all was done in the same night of that meeting. The BOE has had so many black eyes and looked so flip-floppy weak they couldn't back down on this one, to the detriment of our kids. Time for Super to go. #FWS

The only embarrassment here is the Super. The community has nothing to be ashamed of. Coach D. is well on his way to much more lucrative pastures in his new partnerships, and will be better off financially ten-fold to what he lost on a silly coaching salary. He will still have a positive impact on our community, and help out young lacrosse players. It will just be on his terms and will cost more to be a part of his program.

Again.....you let the landscaper run the board etc. As far as a football town......cmon Please....you play in Suffolk Div 3 level. If you had to play some real football you would get smoked.

After two years I can honestly say we are MUCH worse off with Fleming. If anyone can argue that point, I am open to reading a contrary opinion. Regarding the landscaper? Talk about a selfish SOB, the old man got what he wanted and F$&#*@ our program for the LT..... Much thanks Miguel. Keep riding those lawnmowers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Don't need luck from you, we make our own luck.

Pompous [lacrosse]

What a jerk. At least we know this pequa loser only has his kids lax game to look forward to in life. That and his obviously horrible job, home and wife.

Your kid Im guessing doesn't play .. Fleming is busy preparing the team for the Semi Round Playoffs
Give your kid a soccer ball and go to another website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So sad because only an adult would know who Warner Wolf is. Congrats on the win very good team to much for Port ( yes my son's team ) . Be humble it's much more becoming. Good luck the rest of they way.

Don't need luck from you, we make our own luck.

Pompous [lacrosse]

What a jerk. At least we know this pequa loser only has his kids lax game to look forward to in life. That and his obviously horrible job, home and wife.

Job is great, pays the bills and then some. House is on the water, but I do need a new boat. Wife is hot and spends a lot of time staying in shape in case she has to kick your behind. As they say, luck is the residue of design.

I may be a jerk or an [lacrosse], but its good here on the winning side!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

Anyone know the Syosset vs Farmingdale?

Farm/Syo score?

THE DALERS PULL IT OFF

Farmingdale over Syo 11-10... Tucker scores game winner with 5 seconds left

Farmingdale wins 11-10 with a last secon score

My God, Syosset parents must be drowning in a river of tears

GoDalers!

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Syo dad here - heads held high, great game by both teams and the better team won - good luck next week Dalers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Syo dad here - heads held high, great game by both teams and the better team won - good luck next week Dalers

Syosset had a good season. See you next year folks~Pequa dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Syo dad here - heads held high, great game by both teams and the better team won - good luck next week Dalers

Thanks for showing some Class Syosset Dad.

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

go Brook!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some of the funniest stuff I've read with regards to the SJB coach. Obviously disgruntled parents. Anyone who has paid attention knows he's the only one that coaches the team. The HC is checked out. The future is not bright because there are no players. I'd like to see Danowski play with no face off man, no lefty attackman, overmatched underclassmen on defense and juniors that are just not good. I have a big decision to make with my son who I'm glad played on JV. I thought the program was turning around but that's obviously not the case. I should have known when it took 2 weeks into the season to get a practice pinnie that there was something seriously wrong.

Looks like the D coach just chimed in. This program has been in decline for 3 years since you started coaching. anyone can see that. You are really sad. pretending to be a parent while defending your self. You couldn't coach your way out of a paper bag!

Is the D coach for SJB the guy with the really bad hair piece?

Yes he the very same. Worst person you could imagine spending time interacting with your Son. Totally favoring his son who is on the team. complete double standard. All the top kids get screamed at for every little mistake and crickets when Son makes, mistake after mistake. Even the other coach's had issues with him. Should not be allowed and the administration sat by and watched with no action.

I heard that the SJB administration has started the process of making whole sale changes on the lacrosse teams and looking for new coach's. BTW the post above is obviously from the D coach selling out the head coach & the players. This is funny because this crap has been going on for 3 years. Glad he is going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

If WM's 1st string goalie doesn't play look for HE to upset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

Think it comes down to number of goals scored.

Congrats to the Daler's. Everyone happy with the coaching NOW?

Syosset ....... Bahahhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaa!

I wonder who had a more disappointing season

0-16 Seaford

0-15 disqualified St. Anthony's

10-4 CHSAA "default Champ" Chaminade

not living up to "big talking" daddy's expectations, playoff watching 14-3 Syosset

Bahahhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaa!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

LV did play last night . . . unfortunately! Could they win more than 1 faceoff all night??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the Daler's. Everyone happy with the coaching NOW?

Not even close to happy with the coaching...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to the Daler's. Everyone happy with the coaching NOW?

Not even close to happy with the coaching...

From the Farmingdale side??

Well, your team has exceeded expectations thus far so something is working. Sorry to hear disgruntled Dad.

Your Kids must be riding the pine hence the salty tude....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

If WM's 1st string goalie doesn't play look for HE to upset.

Heard that was the problem with Syossett yesterday, true ?
Not looking for details just wondering if it's true that they didn't have their goalie . That would explain a lot

Kids make mistakes and hopefully they learn from them. Those still in the games good luck
Those of us out will move on and not look back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

If WM's 1st string goalie doesn't play look for HE to upset.

Heard that was the problem with Syossett yesterday, true ?
Not looking for details just wondering if it's true that they didn't have their goalie . That would explain a lot

It is true, but where was the defense?

Great post....well done! -Syo Mom

Syosset did not have their goalie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

If WM's 1st string goalie doesn't play look for HE to upset.

Heard that was the problem with Syossett yesterday, true ?
Not looking for details just wondering if it's true that they didn't have their goalie . That would explain a lot

Yes, true, the starting goalie did not play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good games today. Predictons?

SE vs SW

WM vs HE

Could be a couple upsets? Think it comes down to face offs and goalie play for both

If WM's 1st string goalie doesn't play look for HE to upset.

Heard that was the problem with Syossett yesterday, true ?
Not looking for details just wondering if it's true that they didn't have their goalie . That would explain a lot

Yes, true, the starting goalie did not play.

Why not?

Why did the goalie not play? Seen the game looked like syo had too many turnovers

excuses, excuses, excuses. They got beat by the Dale period. No goalie?? so what.. where was the rest of this stud team we heard about all year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did the goalie not play? Seen the game looked like syo had too many turnovers

That is correct starting goalie did not play due too an unfortunate circumstance. That being said that is not an excuse or the reason Syosset lost. You win or lose with the team you put on the field, Team did not play well and gave up way too many opportunities with sloppy play. Farmingdale took advantage and was the better team. Congratulations to farmingdale for a great win. Farmingdale was well prepared and well coached. Good luck to both farmingdale and massapequa next week. Two very good teams and should be a great game.

And yes I am from Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did the goalie not play? Seen the game looked like syo had too many turnovers

That is correct starting goalie did not play due too an unfortunate circumstance. That being said that is not an excuse or the reason Syosset lost. You win or lose with the team you put on the field, Team did not play well and gave up way too many opportunities with sloppy play. Farmingdale took advantage and was the better team. Congratulations to farmingdale for a great win. Farmingdale was well prepared and well coached. Good luck to both farmingdale and massapequa next week. Two very good teams and should be a great game.

And yes I am from Syosset

Bahhahahhhahahha

it will be an excuse by 5:00pm today!

Syosset - Bahhahahhhahahha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

LV did play last night . . . unfortunately! Could they win more than 1 faceoff all night??!

Lynbrook dominates X vs LV. Best team on LI stands in the way of another county ship.

Any score wm vs hills?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

LV did play last night . . . unfortunately! Could they win more than 1 faceoff all night??!

Lynbrook dominates X vs LV. Best team on LI stands in the way of another county ship.

Dominating a non-FOGO all night at the X - that's an accomplishment! Next week, the domination will be reversed and the score will reflect the laugher that game will be.

WM demolished hills 15-6, probably could've been even worse.

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

LV did play last night . . . unfortunately! Could they win more than 1 faceoff all night??!

Lynbrook dominates X vs LV. Best team on LI stands in the way of another county ship.

Dominating a non-FOGO all night at the X - that's an accomplishment! Next week, the domination will be reversed and the score will reflect the laugher that game will be.

didn't know i should should feel bad for a team because they don't have a "FOGO", are you serious? they didn't get this far without kids that can face-off. Give credit to EP he had an outstanding game. As far as CSH goes, it was stated "Best team on LI" referring to CSH, no denying they are The Best team around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Well said they do that with every position!!

Coach C should have set an example with the other kids who were less significant throughout out the year. Same unfortunate incident occurred numerous times but Coach C probably recieved gift$ of some sort to look the other way. The lacrosse culture in Syo is simple " You get what you pay for" and the players are all over hyped punks riding on the coat tails of their previous team mates. Next up will be the Igloo culture of entitlement because Coach C is a paid director. Imagine 3 Igloo 8th graders brought up to V for playoffs but a recent college All Anerican wasn't at that same age and not one of those kids could carry his jock in the 8th grade. PAY 2 PLAY ! Should be on next year shooter just tell Coach C to translate it into Latin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Well said they do that with every position!!

I'm assuming, when referring to "they", you are referring to all coaches in HS lacrosse. If you read the statement, it is ridiculous. What coach in his right mind, during any close or competitive game, would put in the 2nd goalie to get their confidence up. That should have been enforce in PAL and club. FYI, all goalies this season had a lot of play time. This isn't PAL, this isn't club, this is high school and the goal is to win. Obviously, the coach felt that the starting goalie, in this game, was not comfortable, the backup let up 2 quick goals, as for the defender who went in, player should be commended, few players in lacrosse have the nads to step up as he did. Coaches have to work with what they have and this program needs to be overhauled starting at the PAL level to have a stronger deeper line in several positions at the HS level. Less parent involvement, less political BS and maybe more of the good players would have continue to play the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Well said they do that with every position!!

How about maybe offense to score more goals!!! Maybe the coaches should have made adjustment to farmingdale defense. Nope they don't do that. It's same reason why they can't we state title! Have the talent but poorly coached. When the possession is in your end of the field most of the game it is hard to keep the ball out of the net!

Syosset did not lose because of the goalie or poor play by any individual but more by burn out. Body language and emotion were lacking until late in the game. The defense showed how great they can be in the fourth with shut down plays and turnovers. The offense played with urgency and great individual plays started by domination at face offs but they lost from a few bad bounces and good plays by farmingdale
At the end of the game no players were crying, only the parents That is because the parents care more then the kids which is dangerous

Syosset was very overrated this season. Watched them play a few times and did not come away overly impressed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

You obviously can't read, go back and look at the statement, then reply again you idiot.

How about enough with the excuses... Farmingdale was better. Get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello? Syosset, are you out there? Hello? Anyone? Syosset dads? HELLO? Hmmmmm, awfully quiet on the North Shore tonight!

Locust Valley, CSH, and Oyster Bay didn't play last night. Syosset tries to be North Shore but it would have to relocate north of 25A

LV did play last night . . . unfortunately! Could they win more than 1 faceoff all night??!

Lynbrook dominates X vs LV. Best team on LI stands in the way of another county ship.

Dominating a non-FOGO all night at the X - that's an accomplishment! Next week, the domination will be reversed and the score will reflect the laugher that game will be.

didn't know i should should feel bad for a team because they don't have a "FOGO", are you serious? they didn't get this far without kids that can face-off. Give credit to EP he had an outstanding game. As far as CSH goes, it was stated "Best team on LI" referring to CSH, no denying they are The Best team around.

LV won less than 50% at the X (a lot less than 50% in many cases) all season long, so, "yes", they did get where they did without a kid that could face off. That fact is that this something that has plagued this team since after 2014, and has kept them from winning big games, especially in the playoffs. Nobody said to feel bad for them, just that every team they faced all season long dominated them at the X, so what happened Wednesday night at the X wasn't special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Last years team was far better than this years team but coaching was not there. Defense was far better last year and so was goal-tending. Not from the district but judging by last years team and prior years they need to make a coaching change or it will be over for them. What district is th HC's son in? Does anyone know?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Coming from an ex-goalie and goalie coach for over thirty years I can tell you that you are dead right on your statement. Playing the position requires absolute confidence in yourself and that your coach is one hundred percent behind you. So many head coaches do not understand the position and do not realize the importance of a solid CORE of goalies. You need to have two goalies ready to play at all times. Making sure TWO goalies are ready to go requires coaching and a lot of mental preparation especially for goalie #2. The hardest thing to do for any player in the game is lacrosse is to be the #2 or #3 goalie and come in to a game. Time needs to be given to these goalies in game situations at any time possible and coaching them at practice to keep them up is vital. So many head coaches do not understand this and I have seen it kill teams time and time again at the HS level and college level as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Last years team was far better than this years team but coaching was not there. Defense was far better last year and so was goal-tending. Not from the district but judging by last years team and prior years they need to make a coaching change or it will be over for them. What district is th HC's son in? Does anyone know?

Sayville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Last years team was far better than this years team but coaching was not there. Defense was far better last year and so was goal-tending. Not from the district but judging by last years team and prior years they need to make a coaching change or it will be over for them. What district is th HC's son in? Does anyone know?

Sayville

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Coming from an ex-goalie and goalie coach for over thirty years I can tell you that you are dead right on your statement. Playing the position requires absolute confidence in yourself and that your coach is one hundred percent behind you. So many head coaches do not understand the position and do not realize the importance of a solid CORE of goalies. You need to have two goalies ready to play at all times. Making sure TWO goalies are ready to go requires coaching and a lot of mental preparation especially for goalie #2. The hardest thing to do for any player in the game is lacrosse is to be the #2 or #3 goalie and come in to a game. Time needs to be given to these goalies in game situations at any time possible and coaching them at practice to keep them up is vital. So many head coaches do not understand this and I have seen it kill teams time and time again at the HS level and college level as well.

some of your points are valid but you are missing the biggest part of the equation, Talent.

The two positions that are rarely if ever coached in HS is fogo and goalie and they are arguably the two most important positions on the team (especially if they are not good). Fogo's and Goalies get all of their coaching from private trainers not from their HS coaches that usually do not have the time or skill set to properly coach those skills.

It does not matter how much confidence a kid has if he does not have ability. It is easy on BOTC to say a team should have two capable goalies but how many public's have 2 quality goalies, 2 quality fogo's, two quality lefty attack ect ect. even at the privates (St A and Chammy) that get one great goalie after another and most years send two or three goalies per grade to play in college you still do not see anything near equal playing time, they are just like every other team that plays one goalie 90% of the time. and in college it is worse.

Farmingdale is better ? Only when playing 10 vs 9
Prediction massapequa by 10 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Last years team was far better than this years team but coaching was not there. Defense was far better last year and so was goal-tending. Not from the district but judging by last years team and prior years they need to make a coaching change or it will be over for them. What district is th HC's son in? Does anyone know?

He want to go there so he can get his little one PT he doesn't deserve. Started a whole club for that reason (and the extra coin of course). Just bad stuff all around. Coach, please don't ruin our hometown too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Coming from an ex-goalie and goalie coach for over thirty years I can tell you that you are dead right on your statement. Playing the position requires absolute confidence in yourself and that your coach is one hundred percent behind you. So many head coaches do not understand the position and do not realize the importance of a solid CORE of goalies. You need to have two goalies ready to play at all times. Making sure TWO goalies are ready to go requires coaching and a lot of mental preparation especially for goalie #2. The hardest thing to do for any player in the game is lacrosse is to be the #2 or #3 goalie and come in to a game. Time needs to be given to these goalies in game situations at any time possible and coaching them at practice to keep them up is vital. So many head coaches do not understand this and I have seen it kill teams time and time again at the HS level and college level as well.

some of your points are valid but you are missing the biggest part of the equation, Talent.

The two positions that are rarely if ever coached in HS is fogo and goalie and they are arguably the two most important positions on the team (especially if they are not good). Fogo's and Goalies get all of their coaching from private trainers not from their HS coaches that usually do not have the time or skill set to properly coach those skills.

It does not matter how much confidence a kid has if he does not have ability. It is easy on BOTC to say a team should have two capable goalies but how many public's have 2 quality goalies, 2 quality fogo's, two quality lefty attack ect ect. even at the privates (St A and Chammy) that get one great goalie after another and most years send two or three goalies per grade to play in college you still do not see anything near equal playing time, they are just like every other team that plays one goalie 90% of the time. and in college it is worse.

So let's use Syosset as an example. They had 8 games where the won by 5 or more goals. Some by 8 or more. You have 3 full-time goalies on the team. Who have dedicated themselves to the position. Getting shot on every day in practice. You have your starter and every day he steps in the net he risks injury. So as a coach you don't prepare your back ups? I would say that's horrible coaching. You need to make sure your goalies are ready especially if your starter goes down. Any opportunity you get you get your back up in. It's not like you can't put your starter back in if it starts to get close. Coaches have no clue how to handle goalies. Unless they were a goalie themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Coming from an ex-goalie and goalie coach for over thirty years I can tell you that you are dead right on your statement. Playing the position requires absolute confidence in yourself and that your coach is one hundred percent behind you. So many head coaches do not understand the position and do not realize the importance of a solid CORE of goalies. You need to have two goalies ready to play at all times. Making sure TWO goalies are ready to go requires coaching and a lot of mental preparation especially for goalie #2. The hardest thing to do for any player in the game is lacrosse is to be the #2 or #3 goalie and come in to a game. Time needs to be given to these goalies in game situations at any time possible and coaching them at practice to keep them up is vital. So many head coaches do not understand this and I have seen it kill teams time and time again at the HS level and college level as well.

some of your points are valid but you are missing the biggest part of the equation, Talent.

The two positions that are rarely if ever coached in HS is fogo and goalie and they are arguably the two most important positions on the team (especially if they are not good). Fogo's and Goalies get all of their coaching from private trainers not from their HS coaches that usually do not have the time or skill set to properly coach those skills.

It does not matter how much confidence a kid has if he does not have ability. It is easy on BOTC to say a team should have two capable goalies but how many public's have 2 quality goalies, 2 quality fogo's, two quality lefty attack ect ect. even at the privates (St A and Chammy) that get one great goalie after another and most years send two or three goalies per grade to play in college you still do not see anything near equal playing time, they are just like every other team that plays one goalie 90% of the time. and in college it is worse.

So let's use Syosset as an example. They had 8 games where the won by 5 or more goals. Some by 8 or more. You have 3 full-time goalies on the team. Who have dedicated themselves to the position. Getting shot on every day in practice. You have your starter and every day he steps in the net he risks injury. So as a coach you don't prepare your back ups? I would say that's horrible coaching. You need to make sure your goalies are ready especially if your starter goes down. Any opportunity you get you get your back up in. It's not like you can't put your starter back in if it starts to get close. Coaches have no clue how to handle goalies. Unless they were a goalie themselves.

You are so right getting in games that are blow outs don't help your goalies either. They have to feel the pressure just like the starter.

Syosset is a town with the most douches per square mile than any other. That's a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too[/quote]

Hey careful there!

..... you came very close to using the patented Baahahhhhaaaa that is only to be used when referring to Syosset!

Think about it:

Underwear
Angry dads
Not living up to the hype
Coaching controversies
Suspended Goalies for championships

If you really think about it that all gets a double
Baahahhhhaaaa
Baahahhhhaaaa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too

Hey careful there!

..... you came very close to using the patented Baahahhhhaaaa that is only to be used when referring to Syosset!

Think about it:

Underwear
Angry dads
Not living up to the hype
Coaching controversies
Suspended Goalies for championships

If you really think about it that all gets a double
Baahahhhhaaaa
Baahahhhhaaaa

[/quote]

Whatever you say PAL.

The difference is though that Syo Lax kids end up at Ivy League and other highly competitive universities, while your town's lax players end up at Nassau. I guess that's ok considering that you only need a degree from Nassau to get a civil service job. Oh, and don't point to the bogus service academy commits from your school that mysteriously end up at Nassau.

Also, let's not forget that Syo won Nassau A in 2015 and 2016 and LIC in 2015, were those teams overrated as well? Actually, they were massively underrated in 2015. Just as your friends at MSG Varsity. Syo steamrolled Pequa and SE...

Good luck loosing to WM next week.

Lol friggin hystetical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too

Hey careful there!

..... you came very close to using the patented Baahahhhhaaaa that is only to be used when referring to Syosset!

Think about it:

Underwear
Angry dads
Not living up to the hype
Coaching controversies
Suspended Goalies for championships

If you really think about it that all gets a double
Baahahhhhaaaa
Baahahhhhaaaa

Whatever you say PAL.

The difference is though that Syo Lax kids end up at Ivy League and other highly competitive universities, while your town's lax players end up at Nassau. I guess that's ok considering that you only need a degree from Nassau to get a civil service job. Oh, and don't point to the bogus service academy commits from your school that mysteriously end up at Nassau.

Also, let's not forget that Syo won Nassau A in 2015 and 2016 and LIC in 2015, were those teams overrated as well? Actually, they were massively underrated in 2015. Just as your friends at MSG Varsity. Syo steamrolled Pequa and SE...

Good luck loosing to WM next week.[/quote]

Wow, the irony, you didn't go to an Ivy now did you stupid? It's "loser" not "looser" you stupid [lacrosse] moron. Your mom should have aborted your stupid [lacrosse]. Living in last few years [lacrosse]? I'm sure your son was the "looser" goalie who got suspended too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too

Hey careful there!

..... you came very close to using the patented Baahahhhhaaaa that is only to be used when referring to Syosset!

Think about it:

Underwear
Angry dads
Not living up to the hype
Coaching controversies
Suspended Goalies for championships

If you really think about it that all gets a double
Baahahhhhaaaa
Baahahhhhaaaa

Whatever you say PAL.

The difference is though that Syo Lax kids end up at Ivy League and other highly competitive universities, while your town's lax players end up at Nassau. I guess that's ok considering that you only need a degree from Nassau to get a civil service job. Oh, and don't point to the bogus service academy commits from your school that mysteriously end up at Nassau.

Also, let's not forget that Syo won Nassau A in 2015 and 2016 and LIC in 2015, were those teams overrated as well? Actually, they were massively underrated in 2015. Just as your friends at MSG Varsity. Syo steamrolled Pequa and SE...

Good luck loosing to WM next week.

Wow, the irony, you didn't go to an Ivy now did you stupid? It's "loser" not "looser" you stupid [lacrosse] moron. Your mom should have aborted your stupid [lacrosse]. Living in last few years [lacrosse]? I'm sure your son was the "looser" goalie who got suspended too.[/quote]

You are correct about the spelling, I lost my concentration when your hot wife took her teeth out.

I predict that Nassau CC will be very strong next year as the Massapequa pipeline is really flowing.

Well this site went to crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BWAHAHAHA is that a joke, I can see Sayville in an uproar now. Wish Doller would have went to my town, maybe they woudlnt have lost so many 2021's and saw a few that left prior come back. Think Doller would have been good for SJB too

Hey careful there!

..... you came very close to using the patented Baahahhhhaaaa that is only to be used when referring to Syosset!

Think about it:

Underwear
Angry dads
Not living up to the hype
Coaching controversies
Suspended Goalies for championships

If you really think about it that all gets a double
Baahahhhhaaaa
Baahahhhhaaaa

Whatever you say PAL.

The difference is though that Syo Lax kids end up at Ivy League and other highly competitive universities, while your town's lax players end up at Nassau. I guess that's ok considering that you only need a degree from Nassau to get a civil service job. Oh, and don't point to the bogus service academy commits from your school that mysteriously end up at Nassau.

Also, let's not forget that Syo won Nassau A in 2015 and 2016 and LIC in 2015, were those teams overrated as well? Actually, they were massively underrated in 2015. Just as your friends at MSG Varsity. Syo steamrolled Pequa and SE...

Good luck loosing to WM next week.

Wow, the irony, you didn't go to an Ivy now did you stupid? It's "loser" not "looser" you stupid [lacrosse] moron. Your mom should have aborted your stupid [lacrosse]. Living in last few years [lacrosse]? I'm sure your son was the "looser" goalie who got suspended too.

You are correct about the spelling, I lost my concentration when your hot wife took her teeth out.[/quote]

Nah, nice try "looser", why don't you get your goalie son some underwear, you coward piece of $hit

this site has been crap for a long time, that is the fun of it.

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

That statement is absolutely false. Kids NEVER quit. I tried to but Coach Doller didnt let me and a year later I was all county and we won county championship. So hard to watch and listen to this garbage. Facts: Coach Doller started this program and was the life of this program. ..he involved every kid from kindergarten to former players...every graduate of coach Dollers teams would run through walls for him and the Sayville program. That has ended. We were a revered program that was emulated. NOW it's just another suffolk team. We took on the personality of our coach, dedicated, tough, persistent and knowledgeable. Sayville lacrosse will NEVER be the same
I know he's at farmingdale college but, can we get him back? Would he come back?

The sayville team could have 50 kids on it and still will never play like and have the heart we had. We played with passion and heart bc Coach Doller coached us like that. I did not see that in one game the past 2 seasons. My college coach went to see sayville play and said "that is NOT a sayville team, what happened "? College coaches will not be getting the same kids they once expected from Sayville

You're talking like the job is open. Sayville already has a coach.

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What unfortunate event caused the Syosset goalie to be suspended? It wasn't bad fortune it was a bad decision!

You are joking. If he got hurt that would have been unfortunate. He made a very stupid decision that got him thrown off the team and let his whole team down. All the other players hard work and effort just down the drain. I feel that if he were in the game he would have had saved 1 or 2 of those goals. Come on the coach put in the 4th string goalie who is a defender to play the end of game. What was he thinking. I don't think coaches know how to handle goalies. Maybe if the coach had put in some of the other goalies in a bit more during the season they wouldn't have been so nervous. Goalie is a confidence position and coaches need to learn how to manage them better. Throwing goalies into a game where the season is on the line but you didn't get them in during regular season games how are you developing them. You actually set them up for failure in the game that meant the most for your team. Good job coach C!!!!!

Coming from an ex-goalie and goalie coach for over thirty years I can tell you that you are dead right on your statement. Playing the position requires absolute confidence in yourself and that your coach is one hundred percent behind you. So many head coaches do not understand the position and do not realize the importance of a solid CORE of goalies. You need to have two goalies ready to play at all times. Making sure TWO goalies are ready to go requires coaching and a lot of mental preparation especially for goalie #2. The hardest thing to do for any player in the game is lacrosse is to be the #2 or #3 goalie and come in to a game. Time needs to be given to these goalies in game situations at any time possible and coaching them at practice to keep them up is vital. So many head coaches do not understand this and I have seen it kill teams time and time again at the HS level and college level as well.

some of your points are valid but you are missing the biggest part of the equation, Talent.

The two positions that are rarely if ever coached in HS is fogo and goalie and they are arguably the two most important positions on the team (especially if they are not good). Fogo's and Goalies get all of their coaching from private trainers not from their HS coaches that usually do not have the time or skill set to properly coach those skills.

It does not matter how much confidence a kid has if he does not have ability. It is easy on BOTC to say a team should have two capable goalies but how many public's have 2 quality goalies, 2 quality fogo's, two quality lefty attack ect ect. even at the privates (St A and Chammy) that get one great goalie after another and most years send two or three goalies per grade to play in college you still do not see anything near equal playing time, they are just like every other team that plays one goalie 90% of the time. and in college it is worse.

So talent a valid point. Well, what if there is a team that has 2 talented players at faceoff and goalie. One just a bit better in the eyes of some and the other better in the eyes of others. What does a coach do? Does he not play the #2 player at all and then throw them in when the [lacrosse] hits the fan. A good coach would have both ready to go by getting them reps in games. There is no rule in lacrosse if you start o e you can't put the other in. As a goalie coach I would say get them in game situations. Have them rotate full games or halves but get them in. Sometimes goalies are seeing the ball really well sometimes they are not. The mental preparation is very important for a goalie. To know if they are starting a game is very important for their preparation. The confidence of a goalie is also very important and having them play in meaningful situations is vital to their success.

Syosset dads now have plenty of time to buy their sons pants! Hahahaha, COWARDS. Wouldn't say anything to their coach for humiliation of their sons, but lose a playoff game? They all grow balls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

You're a clown!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

F) Massapequa kids failing out freshman year and transferring to Nassau CC. Some of those kids can't even play for Nassau (academic reasons.) What Massapequa lax player ever made an impact on a college team, I mean before failing out??? I guess those kids can get a job checking beach passes at TOBAY (as long as they become registered republicans and become part of the TOB corruption.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

F) Massapequa kids failing out freshman year and transferring to Nassau CC. Some of those kids can't even play for Nassau (academic reasons.) What Massapequa lax player ever made an impact on a college team, I mean before failing out??? I guess those kids can get a job checking beach passes at TOBAY (as long as they become registered republicans and become part of the TOB corruption.)

But a Massapequa dad never whores his son out like the Syosset coward dads. Your sons play without heart because they never had a role model they could copy. Syosset boys have cowards for dads. Your sons hate you for not sticking up for them when they were forced to walk out in their undies. Now the cowards want to get rid of the coaches because they lost. Now your sons will truly hate their coward dads. No braves in Syosset! Cowards

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Word has it the Syosset team took a dive because they hate their fathers so much. Can anyone verify?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

F) Massapequa kids failing out freshman year and transferring to Nassau CC. Some of those kids can't even play for Nassau (academic reasons.) What Massapequa lax player ever made an impact on a college team, I mean before failing out??? I guess those kids can get a job checking beach passes at TOBAY (as long as they become registered republicans and become part of the TOB corruption.)

But a Massapequa dad never whores his son out like the Syosset coward dads. Your sons play without heart because they never had a role model they could copy. Syosset boys have cowards for dads. Your sons hate you for not sticking up for them when they were forced to walk out in their undies. Now the cowards want to get rid of the coaches because they lost. Now your sons will truly hate their coward dads. No braves in Syosset! Cowards

What was Pequa's excuse in 2015 and 2016? If what you say is true, what does that say for the Pequa Team? Baaaaahhhhaaa!!!

Looking forward to watching the Pequa stars at Nassau CC next year!

The pipeline is strong!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo dads won't let JC get tossed they have too much invested in him.

Why would u pick on a kid with learning problems, u fuc$ing loser also Pequa kid in college.
Georgetown
Georgia Tech
UMass
Richmond
Binghamton
Syracuse
Hofstra
Dartmouth
Holy Cross
Wesleyan
Quinnapic
Army
Air Force
Yale

Also
Albany
Towson

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo dads won't let JC get tossed they have too much invested in him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo dads won't let JC get tossed they have too much invested in him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo dads won't let JC get tossed they have too much invested in him.

Well the igloo dad's won't have a say if it comes to that! Time will only tell

It's all irrelevant, Syosset dads whored their sons out. You are cowards! Your sons walked out in their underwear and the Mighty Dalers, blue collar through and through beat your blue blood asses. Cowards couldn't even be gracious in losing. Buy your sons some pants you cowards! Braves, BwaaahaHAAHA, how ironic! Cowards!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Can anyone verify the Sysosset team taking a dive to end the season early?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Your [lacrosse] anytime you want to meet up we will see who the [lacrosse] is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Your [lacrosse] anytime you want to meet up we will see who the [lacrosse] is

What's the matter coward? Touched a nerve? Hahahaha, YOU let him walk home in his underwear, YOU did nothing about it, YOU are a coward! YOU are a phony who gets tough now, but when it was your sons dignity on the line you said/did nothing! He hates you and looks at you like the [lacrosse] you truly are! Don't get mad at me for pointing it out, go apologize and then leave, allow him to be raised by a man who will value his dignity and will ensure he isn't embarrassed! Do him a favor, COWARD! Go meet the coach and take care of your anger issues you freaking chicken $hit excuse of a man

I they were going to take a dive I am sure they would not have come from 4 down in the last 1/4 to tie it. Farmingdale was just better that day. It happens.

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're talking like the job is open. Sayville already has a coach.

Every HS coaching job is "open" at the end of every season. Its up to the district to hire or rehire for the following season. These guys are 100% correct, the last 2 seasons have been in-Sayville like. I can't blame Fleming, he is who he is and he had very large shoes to fill. We used to be admired for our program leader in Sayville, that's tough to follow.

Has anyone thried to organize a group to approach Coach Doller about possibly returning? What about approaching the district? I have to be honest, I was one of the parents who didn't think they would really go through with removing Coach Doller and so I was silent. Big regret.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

b

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Your [lacrosse] anytime you want to meet up we will see who the [lacrosse] is

What's the matter coward? Touched a nerve? Hahahaha, YOU let him walk home in his underwear, YOU did nothing about it, YOU are a coward! YOU are a phony who gets tough now, but when it was your sons dignity on the line you said/did nothing! He hates you and looks at you like the [lacrosse] you truly are! Don't get mad at me for pointing it out, go apologize and then leave, allow him to be raised by a man who will value his dignity and will ensure he isn't embarrassed! Do him a favor, COWARD! Go meet the coach and take care of your anger issues you freaking chicken $hit excuse of a man

You are the coward hiding behind the email and post you [lacrosse] piece of $hit! Anytime big boy!!!!'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset is home to some of the most disgusting people ever. Parents who revel in the humiliation and embarrassment of their sons. My god how can you even look in the mirror? Your boys were forced to walk around half naked! Don't you even care?

Get your story right Nassau cc drop out!!!!

Here's the story you chicken [lacrosse], you allowed your son to walk home in his undies! Everyone knows it, own up to it, apologize to him, then leave and let a real man raise him you [lacrosse].

Your [lacrosse] anytime you want to meet up we will see who the [lacrosse] is

What's the matter coward? Touched a nerve? Hahahaha, YOU let him walk home in his underwear, YOU did nothing about it, YOU are a coward! YOU are a phony who gets tough now, but when it was your sons dignity on the line you said/did nothing! He hates you and looks at you like the [lacrosse] you truly are! Don't get mad at me for pointing it out, go apologize and then leave, allow him to be raised by a man who will value his dignity and will ensure he isn't embarrassed! Do him a favor, COWARD! Go meet the coach and take care of your anger issues you freaking chicken $hit excuse of a man

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Syosset dads with balls have a lot in common with Sasquatch, everyone has heard about one, but no one has actually ever seen one! Hahahaha

Can you 2 idiots share each other contact info, and get the [lacrosse] off the board. so we can talk lax like adults.

Wow stony brook got themselves a prize.
A player that was suspended and and caused his team a championship season.

Not to worry though - I'm sure some igloo bucks can help there.

Seems like the guy who keeps bringing up Syosset kids in their underwear has his own issues
I bet he was embarrassed with nothing to show when he was seen in his underwear in a locker room. I think the inadequate one is in need of therapy more then he Syosset kids and parents

So, John Tillman wins championship and first kids he mentions on national TV is Syo fogo,

wtg #34

GO Braves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like the guy who keeps bringing up Syosset kids in their underwear has his own issues
I bet he was embarrassed with nothing to show when he was seen in his underwear in a locker room. I think the inadequate one is in need of therapy more then he Syosset kids and parents

Thanks Syosset dad! Nice try deflecting, but your kid a pair of sweats you [lacrosse] cowards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow stony brook got themselves a prize.
A player that was suspended and and caused his team a championship season.

Not to worry though - I'm sure some igloo bucks can help there.

Dude, you wanna trash a town or a program, the dads, whatever fine, but when you go after an individual student athlete it is sick and despicable.

How would you feel if some Dad from another town trashed your son on BOTC?

Grow up or better yet just shut up.

You are pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, John Tillman wins championship and first kids he mentions on national TV is Syo fogo,

wtg #34

GO Braves

Good thing #34 was on Maryland, if he was playing for Ohio St he would have had to fly home in his underwear -

Omg, I want to give you a. Wedge so bad.

Syosset players work hard... families are committed to the program and nobody can argue with the success over the past 18 years! People want to come on a totally anonymous chat board and make up stories and say crazy stuff..... I guess that is their right! I wish my son played there!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Omg, I want to give you a. Wedge so bad.

LOL...that was really funny...I heard that the syo fogo who Tillman mentioned was a HS hold back and played 5 yrs at St A wearing boxers not briefs and now they have give up 2014, 2015, and 2016 seasons and default all games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, John Tillman wins championship and first kids he mentions on national TV is Syo fogo,

wtg #34

GO Braves

Good thing #34 was on Maryland, if he was playing for Ohio St he would have had to fly home in his underwear -

Classic! Word is he thanked his mother, dad... not so much!

So syosset players lost their game and their pants, nobody outside of syosset gives a [lacrosse]. Two of the best teams on long island are playing for a championship on wed so go air your [lacrosse] fest on the syosset mom's portal and get the f*** off this site so the rest of us can talk about what really matters. Now that I got that out gonna be close game but I'm taking wm at the final whistle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, John Tillman wins championship and first kids he mentions on national TV is Syo fogo,

wtg #34

GO Braves

Kid never stepped foot on the field? The Northport fogo was benched. The 5 year holdback who was nearly kicked off the team for drugs was the star! Great role model for the lads 😜

Anybody watching the High School national tourney on Espn? In its first year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset players work hard... families are committed to the program and nobody can argue with the success over the past 18 years! People want to come on a totally anonymous chat board and make up stories and say crazy stuff..... I guess that is their right! I wish my son played there!!

You must be kidding! You don't actually think a single person on here is dumb enough to believe your $hit do you? Everyone knows you're the super Syosset loser dad! Syosset dads are so desperate it is sick! I'll amuse you, the stories are all TRUE! The dads are eunuchs, case closed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody watching the High School national tourney on Espn? In its first year.

Was going to ask the same thing. Can this moron announcer say "poise" one more time? Must have just learned a new word.

Guess all these other states wrap up early - said their seasons are over while NY is just getting to counties.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody watching the High School national tourney on Espn? In its first year.

Was going to ask the same thing. Can this moron announcer say "poise" one more time? Must have just learned a new word.

Guess all these other states wrap up early - said their seasons are over while NY is just getting to counties.

The lax has been good, though. Tonight are the finals Georgetown Prep vs the Hill Academy on ESPN.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo is [lacrosse] organization. Horrible.

Whatever you say..... it must be true since you said it.

All you Syosset bashers calling them "elite" "blue blood" and "north shore" have probably never been there. While there is a pocket of the district that is well to do, the vast majority is along the Jericho corridor, north and south, and like most of Nassau quarter acre plots at best and made up of working class folk. And that nice section is sending far more kids to Mathnasium than the lax field. So you can give up on that thread of bashing the rich kids, it doesn't apply. Better yet, give it all up and just root for your team and not against another group. Losers. (But yes, town is painful and Igloo is a cancer).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you Syosset bashers calling them "elite" "blue blood" and "north shore" have probably never been there. While there is a pocket of the district that is well to do, the vast majority is along the Jericho corridor, north and south, and like most of Nassau quarter acre plots at best and made up of working class folk. And that nice section is sending far more kids to Mathnasium than the lax field. So you can give up on that thread of bashing the rich kids, it doesn't apply. Better yet, give it all up and just root for your team and not against another group. Losers. (But yes, town is painful and Igloo is a cancer).

Got to give credit to the admin/coach for suspending the goalie before the championship game for a violation of school rules, no matter how minor. Teaching kids that actions have consequences.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you Syosset bashers calling them "elite" "blue blood" and "north shore" have probably never been there. While there is a pocket of the district that is well to do, the vast majority is along the Jericho corridor, north and south, and like most of Nassau quarter acre plots at best and made up of working class folk. And that nice section is sending far more kids to Mathnasium than the lax field. So you can give up on that thread of bashing the rich kids, it doesn't apply. Better yet, give it all up and just root for your team and not against another group. Losers. (But yes, town is painful and Igloo is a cancer).

Nice try Syosset dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you Syosset bashers calling them "elite" "blue blood" and "north shore" have probably never been there. While there is a pocket of the district that is well to do, the vast majority is along the Jericho corridor, north and south, and like most of Nassau quarter acre plots at best and made up of working class folk. And that nice section is sending far more kids to Mathnasium than the lax field. So you can give up on that thread of bashing the rich kids, it doesn't apply. Better yet, give it all up and just root for your team and not against another group. Losers. (But yes, town is painful and Igloo is a cancer).

Nice try Syosset dad

Forget Syosset and Port. They are out. Predictions for tonight?

The Dalers took your lunch money you weak [lacrosse] braves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Dalers took your lunch money you weak [lacrosse] braves

IMHO all the trash talk about Syosset takes away from Farmingdale and their win, Syosset did not lose the game Farmingdale won the game!

Farmingdale is a good team so is Syosset and Massapequa - hopefully today will be a great competitive game.

Good luck today to both Farmingdale and Massapequa who both deserve to be on the field today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you Syosset bashers calling them "elite" "blue blood" and "north shore" have probably never been there. While there is a pocket of the district that is well to do, the vast majority is along the Jericho corridor, north and south, and like most of Nassau quarter acre plots at best and made up of working class folk. And that nice section is sending far more kids to Mathnasium than the lax field. So you can give up on that thread of bashing the rich kids, it doesn't apply. Better yet, give it all up and just root for your team and not against another group. Losers. (But yes, town is painful and Igloo is a cancer).

Nice try Syosset dad

Forget Syosset and Port. They are out. Predictions for tonight?

It's going to be a very good game, but I predict Pequa by one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Not trying to save face and not a Syosset dad. Just the truth. Sorry if you don't like it , Hillary.

Farmingdale and Pequa should be a tough street fight kind of game. I personally think Pequa will win by a few but wouldn't be surprised if Fdale wins it. good luck to both squads and show the rest how classy hard nosed lacrosse is played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Not trying to save face and not a Syosset dad. Just the truth. Sorry if you don't like it , Hillary.

No one believes you Eunuch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Not trying to save face and not a Syosset dad. Just the truth. Sorry if you don't like it , Hillary.

You're not a Syosset dad, but you know all the facts! Odd, actually unbelievable!

Wow if that is true that is bad news. To many people afraid to make waves even if their kids are at stake. SHAME - I RING MY BELL - SHAME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale and Pequa should be a tough street fight kind of game. I personally think Pequa will win by a few but wouldn't be surprised if Fdale wins it. good luck to both squads and show the rest how classy hard nosed lacrosse is played.

If you think something is going to happen and it doesn't then you will be surprised. You might as well say one of the two teams will win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Not trying to save face and not a Syosset dad. Just the truth. Sorry if you don't like it , Hillary.

You're not a Syosset dad, but you know all the facts! Odd, actually unbelievable!

My nephew plays on the team. Coach didn't force them but did catch heat for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Nope, that's the Syosset dad answer to save face

Not trying to save face and not a Syosset dad. Just the truth. Sorry if you don't like it , Hillary.

No one believes you Eunuch.

Wrong again, I am not Irish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great game between Smithtown East and Connetquot. One again C-quot coaching suspect. C-quot should be good next year, returning a lot of seniors but will depend on defense. They give up a lot of goals. East Vs. West should be great match up!

'Quot is done, will not be good next year because this Coach can not develop the talent he has. His team is stagnant because his abilities are stagnant and because he is dividing his time and attention between his team and his side business.

I agree with you on the coaching, but they will be good next year, just dont think the coaching will get them over the top. Assistants really running the show at Quot, they are very good but HC is a joke. Had a solid core of players that were not developed by HS program (at all) last year (2016), have many seniors back next year (2018) that are pretty good (again, not developed by HS program at all). Never built a program there. Its a shame, because he had the kids to build on and a solid youth program, but abandoned it. Also, you cant win the big ones when you only play six kids on offense and don't develop any defense. Cant ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win especially against the top teams. I know a lot of the Quot parents are drinking the punch right now but its time for a change there. May seem premature to some but it could salvage the program before its too late. If not the program will be dead after next year.

There are so many good lacrosse players on Long Island that winning depends on coaching. Quot was good this year and will be good next year - Just not the top team. Coaching is key. Quot has not had a defensive coach in a few years - and like you said you can't ask your offense to score 15 goals a game in order to win - even with a good goalie. Holding the ball on offense in a real game doesn't cut it. Coming from a parent who's son played - I can't say I know of many players that respect or like playing for the HC but the season is over and it's time to move on to summer ball. Rumor has it he would like to leave after next year anyway to coach in his kids district. Good luck to the top four coaches and teams of Suffolk. Should be some good games tonight.

Last years team was far better than this years team but coaching was not there. Defense was far better last year and so was goal-tending. Not from the district but judging by last years team and prior years they need to make a coaching change or it will be over for them. What district is th HC's son in? Does anyone know?

Sayville

Problem with Connetquot coaches are that they all played for Connetquot. No winning tradition there. They need some outside of Connetquot help. Never should have let Molti go. That was a huge mistake!!

So true, no one at Connetquot likes him. No coaching ability at all. Most of his players last year hated him. Great group of kids last year. Season had nothing to do with HC. This year was a coaching train wreck as usual. Truth is he has destroyed the program there so he could coach his son. They will be good next year if the coaches don't screw it up, but after that its over!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

Are you kidding me?? Sayville Lacrosse may never rebound from this, and your claim is there are more kids on the team!! You dumped a quality coach for god knows what, and the future is probably the Quot coach as soon as they dump him from Quot because he is terrible. All so he can coach his son. Great job, this sounds like a great path for Sayville Lacrosse. Hey maybe we should have the landscaper be the assistant coach of the team, he could do football drills with the goalies while the Quot coach has five assistants coach only his son!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow was there actually a hazing incident involving a lacrosse team? I dont agree with it at the HS level but walking home in underwear sounds pretty tame to me, google mepham football team if you want to see something disgusting. I played college hockey and if i told you the stories of hazing you might just cry.

Hazing?!? Friend it was the coach who made the boys leave the locker room on their underwear because they played poorly! The DAD's condoned it because they didn't want the HC to leave. They sat on their hands silently and let their boys be humiliated by the lacrosse community.

Nope. Players wore special uniforms that day (during break) and were aware that they had to be turned in after the game. Some players wore their uniforms from home to the school and neglected to bring a change of clothes.

Partially correct statement as to what happened last year SYO/St. Ant game, this is what I know from my son who was on the team

It was the last game they could wear these uni's as they were not compliant for league play. Coach told them at practice day before he would be collecting uni's. Like normal 16-18 y/o boys some forgot to bring a change of clothes. If the team had won Coach would still have collected the unis and all facts the same he would still have gotten into trouble.
Game was during break so some boys wore them to school and got right on bus with no change of clothing.
The boys wore uni's off the bus at SHS.
Coach collected uni's in locker room and offered those who did not have a change sweats to wear
Most of the boys had a change of clothes. Some boys like normal 16-18 y/o boys, including some of the top players on the team, thought it would be funny or not a big deal to run to their cars in their compression shorts.
SHS staff member filed complaint which got Coach in trouble.
Coach was reinstated after community came out in support at BoA meeting.

Now that does not mean I support coach in other aspects and if my son and told me another story ( ie: he made them walk off the bus as punishment) other than what is laid out above I would not have supported him. My son not a starter so he had no skin in the game if coach stayed or went so reason to lie.

.

JC is just another Sachem loser. Never should have lasted this long. He should go to Sachem so he can coach his little son...

3-2 Massapequa @ half

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3-2 Massapequa @ half

8-2 beginning of 4th qtr

Nice win Pequa! Next LIC!

Massapequa 12 - Farmingdale 3
great year for both teams congratulations

Why is anyone talking about the Nassau County A 4th place team? They were irrelevant in 2017.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is anyone talking about the Nassau County A 4th place team? They were irrelevant in 2017.

No one is talking about 4th place team except you, which is appropriate since you are also irrelevant.

Go get a six pack and celebrate!

Class B score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice win Pequa! Next LIC!

Enjoy your win, you will lose to the winner of SEast/WM

Garden City 8 Manhasset 6

CSH looks real good, but they did not play one current tri-state top 20 team, why not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale and Pequa should be a tough street fight kind of game. I personally think Pequa will win by a few but wouldn't be surprised if Fdale wins it. good luck to both squads and show the rest how classy hard nosed lacrosse is played.

If you think something is going to happen and it doesn't then you will be surprised. You might as well say one of the two teams will win.

its a way of saying its going to be a close game, sportscaster talk... I for one wasn't surprised Pequa won by a lot, they are a good team. Well coached. Congrats to them.

Is it possible when schedule was made 5 months ago, CSH, didn't know who, 5 months later would be tri state top 20. Out of conference games against smithtown west and syosett. Both great programs, who any year could be a top 20 team. You got to love these Monday morning quarterbacks. Team is 18 and 0. Your post should be CSH looks real good and leave it at that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice win Pequa! Next LIC!

Enjoy your win, you will lose to the winner of SEast/WM

Thanks you bitter loser! Maybe if you spent more time with your son practicing he wouldn't suck so much and you would have been enjoying a championship last night instead of trolling botc hahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

Are you kidding me?? Sayville Lacrosse may never rebound from this, and your claim is there are more kids on the team!! You dumped a quality coach for god knows what, and the future is probably the Quot coach as soon as they dump him from Quot because he is terrible. All so he can coach his son. Great job, this sounds like a great path for Sayville Lacrosse. Hey maybe we should have the landscaper be the assistant coach of the team, he could do football drills with the goalies while the Quot coach has five assistants coach only his son!!

The removal of a great dedicated coach always has ripple effects for years, so get used to the new normal. Mediocre Sayville lacrosse, eventually lowered expectations and then yearning for the good old times.

Question> Can anyone remember the real reason why the Board replaced Coach Doller? Because the parents rallied around the program when the Board screwed up and they were embarrassed. The program will never be the same, mark my words.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice win Pequa! Next LIC!

Enjoy your win, you will lose to the winner of SEast/WM

Thanks you bitter loser! Maybe if you spent more time with your son practicing he wouldn't suck so much and you would have been enjoying a championship last night instead of trolling botc hahahaha

I happen to think SE or WM will be a tough match up for Pequa. I also think this is SE last chance. It is now or never for SE. Both WM and Pequa will remain on top of their classes. SE will be what SW has been the past few years, okay but not threatening for a title. SW will now become a top team with a young stable and reload. as will WI.

I will say that Pequa syo game. Gave lots of film of what to try and do. Good luck to all teams should be a few good games. Don't see any blow outs today or Sat.

"CSH looks real good, but they did not play one current tri-state top 20 team, why not?"

Me thinks at the beginning of the season Syosset, Greenwich, John Jay and New Canaan were all top 20...I guess they didn't turn out to be as good as they usually are.

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

After CSH scrimmaged Farmingdale last week go ask the Dalers who the best team was they lined up against all season--granted just a scrimmage but just sayin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"CSH looks real good, but they did not play one current tri-state top 20 team, why not?"

Me thinks at the beginning of the season Syosset, Greenwich, John Jay and New Canaan were all top 20...I guess they didn't turn out to be as good as they usually are.

don't forget smith town west. you guys are tools. That is a tough schedule for anyone. Im from Lynbrook and that is the best HS around by far. I would love to see them play Darien.

I think for the Nassau kids who would like to see the lax field in HS may decide to go to Kellenberg instead of being one of 40 kids sitting at Chaminade. Just saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice win Pequa! Next LIC!

Enjoy your win, you will lose to the winner of SEast/WM

Thanks you bitter loser! Maybe if you spent more time with your son practicing he wouldn't suck so much and you would have been enjoying a championship last night instead of trolling botc hahahaha

I happen to think SE or WM will be a tough match up for Pequa. I also think this is SE last chance. It is now or never for SE. Both WM and Pequa will remain on top of their classes. SE will be what SW has been the past few years, okay but not threatening for a title. SW will now become a top team with a young stable and reload. as will WI.

I will say that Pequa syo game. Gave lots of film of what to try and do. Good luck to all teams should be a few good games. Don't see any blow outs today or Sat.

SE and WM are the class of LI, Pequa played SE very closely in their loss. I think whomever wins Saturday has a very good chance of being the NYS champ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After CSH scrimmaged Farmingdale last week go ask the Dalers who the best team was they lined up against all season--granted just a scrimmage but just sayin.

Scrimmages don't count, if you want to count scrimmages, Pequa beat CSH at a scrimmage in the beginning of the year. Do scrimmages still count?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think for the Nassau kids who would like to see the lax field in HS may decide to go to Kellenberg instead of being one of 40 kids sitting at Chaminade. Just saying

suprised it hasnt happened already . half of 47 kids on chaminade freshman team never saw the field even in blowout . well maybe 30 secs some catholic institution

Could very well be the best HS team around, but their competition lost 40% of games played, guess you could say that about a lot of schedules, wide gap between top teams and all others.

As for Pequa "beating" csh in a scrimmage it doesn't "count" but it sure is a testament that Massapequa must be very good--as we all already know. I think the poster prefaced by saying "just a scrimmage" when he discussed CSH vs. Farmindale SCRIMMAGE. Tool bag looking for an issue when there is none. pick a fight with the mirror guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As for Pequa "beating" csh in a scrimmage it doesn't "count" but it sure is a testament that Massapequa must be very good--as we all already know. I think the poster prefaced by saying "just a scrimmage" when he discussed CSH vs. Farmindale SCRIMMAGE. Tool bag looking for an issue when there is none. pick a fight with the mirror guy.

Tool bag, hahaha, hey whatever, don't use scrimmages, they are not a barometer of talent. Don't even post nonsense how about that. By the way, I kicked the mirror's [lacrosse]!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After CSH scrimmaged Farmingdale last week go ask the Dalers who the best team was they lined up against all season--granted just a scrimmage but just sayin.

Scrimmages don't count, if you want to count scrimmages, Pequa beat CSH at a scrimmage in the beginning of the year. Do scrimmages still count?

The guy didn't say it counted or who won or loss. But a team can definitely tell how good a team is in a scrimmage.

Release the HOUNDS !!!! LMAO is the village idiot screaming into his phone about the Dalers this morning . You know who I am talking about. Grow up Pal. You are embarrassing your son .

As the years go on that mirror is going to take its revenge...you just watch. happening already.

That's a terrible comment from a terrible person whomever you may be

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Release the HOUNDS !!!! LMAO is the village idiot screaming into his phone about the Dalers this morning . You know who I am talking about. Grow up Pal. You are embarrassing your son .

I have to say you are spot on. I actually thought this person had some type of disability the first time I heard it. Yet he went on and on. The next time i heard him I just realized he is just a tool. You screaming into your phone now about how you got spanked by Massapequa

You know why the Massapequa team is so good at finishing around the net?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Release the HOUNDS !!!! LMAO is the village idiot screaming into his phone about the Dalers this morning . You know who I am talking about. Grow up Pal. You are embarrassing your son .

Hey I'm a Pequa person, the guy is harmless, he's funny. Everyone thinks he's a riot.

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Monopoly means exclusive. If STA and Cham were one team it would be a monopoly but they are not so there is no monopoly. As to St. Dom's, you were wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Monopoly means exclusive. If STA and Cham were one team it would be a monopoly but they are not so there is no monopoly. As to St. Dom's, you were wrong.

its a shot at st doms parent who big timed lacrosse program last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Monopoly means exclusive. If STA and Cham were one team it would be a monopoly but they are not so there is no monopoly. As to St. Dom's, you were wrong.

I believe that he meant duopoly - two entities that control a market not a monopoly or a single entity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Not typical Daler behavior. Yes we do have our share of crazy people but have you ever stood on a travel sideline.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Not typical Daler behavior. Yes we do have our share of crazy people but have you ever stood on a travel sideline.

He's funny and harmless, he gives everyone a laugh. I know plenty of folks from Farmingdale and they are all decent people. Syosset on the other hand.........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Not typical Daler behavior. Yes we do have our share of crazy people but have you ever stood on a travel sideline.

He's funny and harmless, he gives everyone a laugh. I know plenty of folks from Farmingdale and they are all decent people. Syosset on the other hand.........

You may think he's funny because you're from the same town. For others who try and watch the game to hear him on the sideline is really unbearable. Constantly screaming into the phone. Sometimes I wonder if there is even someone in the other end. I really thought there was some mental issues when I first heard him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

Are you kidding me?? Sayville Lacrosse may never rebound from this, and your claim is there are more kids on the team!! You dumped a quality coach for god knows what, and the future is probably the Quot coach as soon as they dump him from Quot because he is terrible. All so he can coach his son. Great job, this sounds like a great path for Sayville Lacrosse. Hey maybe we should have the landscaper be the assistant coach of the team, he could do football drills with the goalies while the Quot coach has five assistants coach only his son!!

The removal of a great dedicated coach always has ripple effects for years, so get used to the new normal. Mediocre Sayville lacrosse, eventually lowered expectations and then yearning for the good old times.

Question> Can anyone remember the real reason why the Board replaced Coach Doller? Because the parents rallied around the program when the Board screwed up and they were embarrassed. The program will never be the same, mark my words.

Dont worry BJ from Quot will be there soon. He may try to clone his kid nine times so he can play him as the whole team, bring them all up in eighth grade and play that way for four years. Looks like a bright future for Sayville.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After CSH scrimmaged Farmingdale last week go ask the Dalers who the best team was they lined up against all season--granted just a scrimmage but just sayin.

Scrimmages don't count, if you want to count scrimmages, Pequa beat CSH at a scrimmage in the beginning of the year. Do scrimmages still count?

The guy didn't say it counted or who won or loss. But a team can definitely tell how good a team is in a scrimmage.

Totally depends on when the scrimmage took place (early season/late season) who the coach plays and for how much time. Many coaches play starters for short periods and mix up lines in scrimmages. Not always a real good judge of a teams talent in the regular season. Sure some parallel's can be drawn but mostly on one on one situations. Outside of that I wouldn't put too much faith in a scrimmage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Not typical Daler behavior. Yes we do have our share of crazy people but have you ever stood on a travel sideline.

He's funny and harmless, he gives everyone a laugh. I know plenty of folks from Farmingdale and they are all decent people. Syosset on the other hand.........

You may think he's funny because you're from the same town. For others who try and watch the game to hear him on the sideline is really unbearable. Constantly screaming into the phone. Sometimes I wonder if there is even someone in the other end. I really thought there was some mental issues when I first heard him.

Still no reason to call that typical Daler behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Monopoly means exclusive. If STA and Cham were one team it would be a monopoly but they are not so there is no monopoly. As to St. Dom's, you were wrong.

I believe that he meant duopoly - two entities that control a market not a monopoly or a single entity.

Not sure it will stay that way. I seem to think Kellenberg will be giving Chaminade a run for their money the year after next or 2. 2018 are too strong at Chaminade but not too sure after that. Kellenberg may have their number. Should be a good 3 legged race.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw that tool at the ticket booth before the game...didn't know he was a parent.. typical Daler behavior. And all his people around him let him carry on. Smh

Not typical Daler behavior. Yes we do have our share of crazy people but have you ever stood on a travel sideline.

He's funny and harmless, he gives everyone a laugh. I know plenty of folks from Farmingdale and they are all decent people. Syosset on the other hand.........

You may think he's funny because you're from the same town. For others who try and watch the game to hear him on the sideline is really unbearable. Constantly screaming into the phone. Sometimes I wonder if there is even someone in the other end. I really thought there was some mental issues when I first heard him.

But I'm not from Farmingdale, it's a game,!dont take it so seriously

Wm vs pequa for the title

I think we can all agree that every village has their idiot. Some villages have more than one. He is theirs.

Typical Smithtown East undisciplined play. 5-1 lead with 3 min left in the first half and they have possession. Instead of milking the clock for the last and only shot of the half they shoot and lose possession and give up 2 goals in the last minute or two only to repeat it at the end of the 3rd quarter. Poor shot and no back up and the ball goes the other way for a Melville goal. Successive turnovers by East's top player late in the 4th all but sealed their fate. This was the fabled senior classes final game.

East dominated on faceoffs, wm gonna have to do better if they want to beat massapequa

WM will win by 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

Are you kidding me?? Sayville Lacrosse may never rebound from this, and your claim is there are more kids on the team!! You dumped a quality coach for god knows what, and the future is probably the Quot coach as soon as they dump him from Quot because he is terrible. All so he can coach his son. Great job, this sounds like a great path for Sayville Lacrosse. Hey maybe we should have the landscaper be the assistant coach of the team, he could do football drills with the goalies while the Quot coach has five assistants coach only his son!!

The removal of a great dedicated coach always has ripple effects for years, so get used to the new normal. Mediocre Sayville lacrosse, eventually lowered expectations and then yearning for the good old times.

Question> Can anyone remember the real reason why the Board replaced Coach Doller? Because the parents rallied around the program when the Board screwed up and they were embarrassed. The program will never be the same, mark my words.

Dont worry BJ from Quot will be there soon. He may try to clone his kid nine times so he can play him as the whole team, bring them all up in eighth grade and play that way for four years. Looks like a bright future for Sayville.

Spot on. The kid doesn't have to earn a thing. Daddy ball at its highest!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Not when they don't have the ball. Pequa will benefit from controlling the X.

It's going to be close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Your team will be in the stands next week right? Sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Your team will be in the stands next week right? Sad

Just like your team was for the last two years tough guy. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Your team will be in the stands next week right? Sad

Just like your team was for the last two years tough guy. Sad.

What's the matter? Son won't talk to you because you let him be humiliated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Your team will be in the stands next week right? Sad

Just like your team was for the last two years tough guy. Sad.

Wow, Syo shows class again! Well, better luck next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Smithtown East undisciplined play. 5-1 lead with 3 min left in the first half and they have possession. Instead of milking the clock for the last and only shot of the half they shoot and lose possession and give up 2 goals in the last minute or two only to repeat it at the end of the 3rd quarter. Poor shot and no back up and the ball goes the other way for a Melville goal. Successive turnovers by East's top player late in the 4th all but sealed their fate. This was the fabled senior classes final game.

Not all that surprising. They blew the semifinal game last year being up by 4 in the final minutes. Just like today, winning most of the faceoffs. How does that happen two years in a row?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will win by 10

Your team will be in the stands next week right? Sad

Just like your team was for the last two years tough guy. Sad.

You're jealousy shines through! I would wish Syosset nothing but the best if the circumstances were reversed. It is truly unfortunate that you are so bitter as to post here. It's the reason so many people dislike your community and why you have to endure the comments about you! Really poor example of your community, I hope you are the exception and not the rule! To the other Syosset parents, good luck next year, see you on the field

Manhasset staying quiet. They were discussing who they were going to play upstate earlier this month. Nice..

Manhasset came out flat. Goalie didn't help either. Credit them, fight back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Smithtown East undisciplined play. 5-1 lead with 3 min left in the first half and they have possession. Instead of milking the clock for the last and only shot of the half they shoot and lose possession and give up 2 goals in the last minute or two only to repeat it at the end of the 3rd quarter. Poor shot and no back up and the ball goes the other way for a Melville goal. Successive turnovers by East's top player late in the 4th all but sealed their fate. This was the fabled senior classes final game.

Not all that surprising. They blew the semifinal game last year being up by 4 in the final minutes. Just like today, winning most of the faceoffs. How does that happen two years in a row?

Undisciplined play is on the coach. He did'nt play his all stars they played him.

No excuse for a varsity coach in the playoffs or in championships not to have his guys ready and with very good game plan. These games come down to what coach has his guys locked in and players must believe in they game plan and execute. This is when you find out who got who to the big game, coach or players.

I happen to think SE or WM will be a tough match up for Pequa. I also think this is SE last chance. It is now or never for SE. Both WM and Pequa will remain on top of their classes. SE will be what SW has been the past few years, okay but not threatening for a title. SW will now become a top team with a young stable and reload. as will WI.

I will say that Pequa syo game. Gave lots of film of what to try and do. Good luck to all teams should be a few good games. Don't see any blow outs today or Sat.[/quote]

These County finals could be the look for the next 2/3 years. Represent Li well. After Sat. we will all pulling for each of you.

Pequa vs WM
Nassau - dont see many other teams with Youth and depth Farmingdale & Port have youth but not as much depth
Suffolk - WM has the youth and depth, So does Smith W and West Islip this will be a fun run the next few years between these 3

CSH vs SWR
CSH some good youth not sure the depth, if LV gets more discipline they can represent Nassau the next 2 years.
SWR has youth and depth as does Islip. Those two should fight for it out the next few years. A few others can fight with them in season but these two should be there again at the end unless a new realignment comes out again.

GC vs ESM
Good luck represent Long Island well going forward.
Nassau is up to Manhasset and GC the next few years, a few will play with them in season but either GC or Manhasset should come out victorious in the end.
Suffolk - ESM i think there will be a lot of bickering over there, but that is par for the course. ESM should be atop awhile but there could be a few surprises here if the bickering gets in the way. I've been posting for years watch out for ESM...

Babylon - why not ask to be moved up a class?

Dewitt in C looks good
Victor in B Looks good
Yorktown in B looks good
Nisky in B should be undefeated since both teams broke NFHS rules .
Still not sure why Lakeland / Panas is in A,
Should be a B school and not in playoffs (petitioned to stay in A so they dont have to contend with Yorktown)
Should be 2 c schools, still dont know why they get to be one team.

CSH '18 has a few good players. '19 is weak. On a state/national level this is CSH's shot for the next few years.

Pequa/ Syo game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I happen to think SE or WM will be a tough match up for Pequa. I also think this is SE last chance. It is now or never for SE. Both WM and Pequa will remain on top of their classes. SE will be what SW has been the past few years, okay but not threatening for a title. SW will now become a top team with a young stable and reload. as will WI.

I will say that Pequa syo game. Gave lots of film of what to try and do. Good luck to all teams should be a few good games. Don't see any blow outs today or Sat.

These County finals could be the look for the next 2/3 years. Represent Li well. After Sat. we will all pulling for each of you.

Pequa vs WM
Nassau - dont see many other teams with Youth and depth Farmingdale & Port have youth but not as much depth
Suffolk - WM has the youth and depth, So does Smith W and West Islip this will be a fun run the next few years between these 3

CSH vs SWR
CSH some good youth not sure the depth, if LV gets more discipline they can represent Nassau the next 2 years.
SWR has youth and depth as does Islip. Those two should fight for it out the next few years. A few others can fight with them in season but these two should be there again at the end unless a new realignment comes out again.

GC vs ESM
Good luck represent Long Island well going forward.
Nassau is up to Manhasset and GC the next few years, a few will play with them in season but either GC or Manhasset should come out victorious in the end.
Suffolk - ESM i think there will be a lot of bickering over there, but that is par for the course. ESM should be atop awhile but there could be a few surprises here if the bickering gets in the way. I've been posting for years watch out for ESM...

Babylon - why not ask to be moved up a class?

Dewitt in C looks good
Victor in B Looks good
Yorktown in B looks good
Nisky in B should be undefeated since both teams broke NFHS rules .
Still not sure why Lakeland / Panas is in A,
Should be a B school and not in playoffs (petitioned to stay in A so they dont have to contend with Yorktown)
Should be 2 c schools, still dont know why they get to be one team.

[/quote]

This rambling post just left me feeling comfefe,

Pequa / Syo game film?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa / Syo game film?

Relevance?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Kellenberg. NY State CHSAA-AA State Champs! Way to stick together after a rough start to the season and finish strong!

what happened to st doms ? i thought they were the team to unseat anthonys /chaminade monopoly ?

Monopoly means exclusive. If STA and Cham were one team it would be a monopoly but they are not so there is no monopoly. As to St. Dom's, you were wrong.

I believe that he meant duopoly - two entities that control a market not a monopoly or a single entity.

Not sure it will stay that way. I seem to think Kellenberg will be giving Chaminade a run for their money the year after next or 2. 2018 are too strong at Chaminade but not too sure after that. Kellenberg may have their number. Should be a good 3 legged race.

Kellenberg is closing the gap but they haven't completely closed it. They don't have nearly the depth of the other two but I think they will make them earn it on the field and won't allow them to look past them as they might have in the years past. Don't want to get ahead of themselves, the boys still have to play the games on the field. I think the team has more talent than in the past and is probably set up to have a couple of successful seasons (on the heels of this year's State AA Title). Things are looking up in Uniondale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa / Syo game film?

I think that they were referring to is if you watch the film you will see how to beat Massapequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I happen to think SE or WM will be a tough match up for Pequa. I also think this is SE last chance. It is now or never for SE. Both WM and Pequa will remain on top of their classes. SE will be what SW has been the past few years, okay but not threatening for a title. SW will now become a top team with a young stable and reload. as will WI.

I will say that Pequa syo game. Gave lots of film of what to try and do. Good luck to all teams should be a few good games. Don't see any blow outs today or Sat.

These County finals could be the look for the next 2/3 years. Represent Li well. After Sat. we will all pulling for each of you.

Pequa vs WM
Nassau - dont see many other teams with Youth and depth Farmingdale & Port have youth but not as much depth
Suffolk - WM has the youth and depth, So does Smith W and West Islip this will be a fun run the next few years between these 3

CSH vs SWR
CSH some good youth not sure the depth, if LV gets more discipline they can represent Nassau the next 2 years.
SWR has youth and depth as does Islip. Those two should fight for it out the next few years. A few others can fight with them in season but these two should be there again at the end unless a new realignment comes out again.

GC vs ESM
Good luck represent Long Island well going forward.
Nassau is up to Manhasset and GC the next few years, a few will play with them in season but either GC or Manhasset should come out victorious in the end.
Suffolk - ESM i think there will be a lot of bickering over there, but that is par for the course. ESM should be atop awhile but there could be a few surprises here if the bickering gets in the way. I've been posting for years watch out for ESM...

Babylon - why not ask to be moved up a class?

Dewitt in C looks good
Victor in B Looks good
Yorktown in B looks good
Nisky in B should be undefeated since both teams broke NFHS rules .
Still not sure why Lakeland / Panas is in A,
Should be a B school and not in playoffs (petitioned to stay in A so they dont have to contend with Yorktown)
Should be 2 c schools, still dont know why they get to be one team.

[/quote]
Lakeland/Panas have had a combined lacrosse team since 1992.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa / Syo game film?

I think that they were referring to is if you watch the film you will see how to beat Massapequa.

But Pequa destroyed Syosset, so again relevance?

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Coaching in these games is so important.

Massapequa up 5-4 at half vs Port and wins 15-4.

Massapequa up 3-2 at half vs Syosset and win

I would say the coaches made adjustments and the team executed. Coach Powers is the best high school coach around. To have him on the sidelines everyday and at practice can make a good team great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Coaching in these games is so important.

Massapequa up 5-4 at half vs Port and wins 15-4.

Massapequa up 3-2 at half vs Syosset and win

I would say the coaches made adjustments and the team executed. Coach Powers is the best high school coach around. To have him on the sidelines everyday and at practice can make a good team great.

He's the most psychotic coach around just ask any Nassau Community lacrosse player who was lucky enough to play for that lunatic. He should not be around kids period! George we all love you and Coach Speckman both of you guys taught and mentored decades of lost souls and prepared us for the next step not only on the field but in life. We all thank you and appreciate what you did for all of us. Good luck Pequa and you not only have a great coach but a great person as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Just like red cups that make you tough. I guess Pequa didn't have enough heart in 2015 and 2016... Right? Your logic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Just like red cups that make you tough. I guess Pequa didn't have enough heart in 2015 and 2016... Right? Your logic.

Never said I was tough, I said your son has no heart, just like you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It;s amazing what good coaching did with the average players from Pequa.

Not so much the coaching, it was heart, you wouldn't know that because your son has none. #Bravesdaddycowards

Just like red cups that make you tough. I guess Pequa didn't have enough heart in 2015 and 2016... Right? Your logic.

Why don't you come out to SB and watch a championship on Saturday and stop living in the past.

Powers made the difference. And they didn't have Powers in 2015 and 2016! Like the other post said-- he can make a good team great!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Under Doller more kids quit playing lacrosse than actually graduated. The team is twice the size since he left. You have no idea what you are talking about. And no way is the c'quot coach getting the Sayville job.

Are you kidding me?? Sayville Lacrosse may never rebound from this, and your claim is there are more kids on the team!! You dumped a quality coach for god knows what, and the future is probably the Quot coach as soon as they dump him from Quot because he is terrible. All so he can coach his son. Great job, this sounds like a great path for Sayville Lacrosse. Hey maybe we should have the landscaper be the assistant coach of the team, he could do football drills with the goalies while the Quot coach has five assistants coach only his son!!

The removal of a great dedicated coach always has ripple effects for years, so get used to the new normal. Mediocre Sayville lacrosse, eventually lowered expectations and then yearning for the good old times.

Question> Can anyone remember the real reason why the Board replaced Coach Doller? Because the parents rallied around the program when the Board screwed up and they were embarrassed. The program will never be the same, mark my words.

Dont worry BJ from Quot will be there soon. He may try to clone his kid nine times so he can play him as the whole team, bring them all up in eighth grade and play that way for four years. Looks like a bright future for Sayville.

Maybe the landscaper can coach the team or his loud mouth wife. Thanks Mike for destroying our program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Powers made the difference. And they didn't have Powers in 2015 and 2016! Like the other post said-- he can make a good team great!

Wasn't there in 2014 either, negates the silly argument. The poster is nothing more than a Syosset dad who is mad that they lost to massapequa and Farmingdale. So either those two teams are very good or Syosset was a below average team. Take your pick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Powers made the difference. And they didn't have Powers in 2015 and 2016! Like the other post said-- he can make a good team great!

Wasn't there in 2014 either, negates the silly argument. The poster is nothing more than a Syosset dad who is mad that they lost to massapequa and Farmingdale. So either those two teams are very good or Syosset was a below average team. Take your pick

The best coaches are the ones who get off the bus with the best players, The best coach in Nassau County lost on Tuesday. Massapequa had the most talent but if it came down to heart and coaching, Farmingdale would be playing tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Powers made the difference. And they didn't have Powers in 2015 and 2016! Like the other post said-- he can make a good team great!

Wasn't there in 2014 either, negates the silly argument. The poster is nothing more than a Syosset dad who is mad that they lost to massapequa and Farmingdale. So either those two teams are very good or Syosset was a below average team. Take your pick

The best coaches are the ones who get off the bus with the best players, The best coach in Nassau County lost on Tuesday. Massapequa had the most talent but if it came down to heart and coaching, Farmingdale would be playing tomorrow.

Farmingdale is a team with guts and heart, very impressed with them. Respect earned, fans are intense but respectful. Pequa and Farmingdale hate each other on the field but respect off it.

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

Heart and hustle gets ground balls, not talent, and Pequa dominated on GB. I would say the future looks good under the new coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

Best rivalry in all sports on LI. Fdale-pequa goes back decades. Absolutely hate eachother on the field. After high school become some of best friends. Can't think of a better football/lacrosse rivalry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best rivalry in all sports on LI. Fdale-pequa goes back decades. Absolutely hate eachother on the field. After high school become some of best friends. Can't think of a better football/lacrosse rivalry.

Syosset and underwear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best rivalry in all sports on LI. Fdale-pequa goes back decades. Absolutely hate eachother on the field. After high school become some of best friends. Can't think of a better football/lacrosse rivalry.

Agree 100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

Thanks Syo daddy! Now go buy your son some pants!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

For a guy who doesn't care that's an awfully long winded post! I think you REALLY do care, don't you? Doesn't matter if it was 14 months ago or not, if the Not so Brave daddies keep posting on here about others, well stands to reason their going to get some of it back. You'll notice this all started because one Syo moron had to call Pequa players average, nice to know the average boys beat the pants off your below average boys. Bye now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Powers made the difference. And they didn't have Powers in 2015 and 2016! Like the other post said-- he can make a good team great!

Wasn't there in 2014 either, negates the silly argument. The poster is nothing more than a Syosset dad who is mad that they lost to massapequa and Farmingdale. So either those two teams are very good or Syosset was a below average team. Take your pick

I am sorry but this years Massapequa team had no where near the talent as other years and the Powers that be made them a better team then they looked on paper. Lets face it if you add a great coach to an already solid group of players it elevates the team. Its that plain and simple. If you were to put Syosset's commits and Massapequa's commits on paper it would be in favor of Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

For a guy who doesn't care that's an awfully long winded post! I think you REALLY do care, don't you? Doesn't matter if it was 14 months ago or not, if the Not so Brave daddies keep posting on here about others, well stands to reason their going to get some of it back. You'll notice this all started because one Syo moron had to call Pequa players average, nice to know the average boys beat the pants off your below average boys. Bye now

Technically, those Syo boys with "no pants" beat the pants off of Pequa 2X last year...

Oh, and The Pequa Red Cup Brigade started all this by going after a specifically identifiable Syosset player. That's pathetic. You should be ashamed, holding yourself out as such a stand up person.

Good luck against WM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

For a guy who doesn't care that's an awfully long winded post! I think you REALLY do care, don't you? Doesn't matter if it was 14 months ago or not, if the Not so Brave daddies keep posting on here about others, well stands to reason their going to get some of it back. You'll notice this all started because one Syo moron had to call Pequa players average, nice to know the average boys beat the pants off your below average boys. Bye now

Technically, those Syo boys with "no pants" beat the pants off of Pequa 2X last year...

Oh, and The Pequa Red Cup Brigade started all this by going after a specifically identifiable Syosset player. That's pathetic. You should be ashamed, holding yourself out as such a stand up person.

Good luck against WM.

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! This was all started when YOU called the Pequa boys average, trying to get a reaction, well you got one you half wit wanna be. Go spout your self righteous [lacrosse] to someone who actually believes it, like yourself. No one likes anything about your town or your parents, nothing but a bunch of self centered cry babies. By the way, we don't need or want your poisonous luck, we'll do just fine, and the difference between a Pequa parent and a Syosset parent is that if we should lose, we will root for WM to carry LI, and we certainly won't come on here to try to justify our loss and rip the other team. The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son! But go ahead and try to justify it in your own perverted mind. Anyway, see you around you pompous jerk!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

For a guy who doesn't care that's an awfully long winded post! I think you REALLY do care, don't you? Doesn't matter if it was 14 months ago or not, if the Not so Brave daddies keep posting on here about others, well stands to reason their going to get some of it back. You'll notice this all started because one Syo moron had to call Pequa players average, nice to know the average boys beat the pants off your below average boys. Bye now

Technically, those Syo boys with "no pants" beat the pants off of Pequa 2X last year...

Oh, and The Pequa Red Cup Brigade started all this by going after a specifically identifiable Syosset player. That's pathetic. You should be ashamed, holding yourself out as such a stand up person.

Good luck against WM.

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! This was all started when YOU called the Pequa boys average, trying to get a reaction, well you got one you half wit wanna be. Go spout your self righteous [lacrosse] to someone who actually believes it, like yourself. No one likes anything about your town or your parents, nothing but a bunch of self centered cry babies. By the way, we don't need or want your poisonous luck, we'll do just fine, and the difference between a Pequa parent and a Syosset parent is that if we should lose, we will root for WM to carry LI, and we certainly won't come on here to try to justify our loss and rip the other team. The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son! But go ahead and try to justify it in your own perverted mind. Anyway, see you around you pompous jerk!

Well said.. I am a Farmingdale parent and even though we a sports rivals your response was perfect..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! ....... The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son!

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! ....... The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son!

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Keep it up Syo dad, shame has no boundaries for you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! ....... The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son!

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

You lost, go away now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best rivalry in all sports on LI. Fdale-pequa goes back decades. Absolutely hate eachother on the field. After high school become some of best friends. Can't think of a better football/lacrosse rivalry.

Agree 100%

Garden City and Manhassett

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you should make a movie about the Pequa Fdale rivalry so all could share in the intense respect.

I got a great laugh today, while browsing Newsday I noticed that there is a new movie coming out about the Syosset Lacrosse team, title of said film........"Captain Underpants". It's animated, kind of like Syo dads. Should be interesting, wonder what the premise will be?

The original post was funny, your reply...not so much.

The key to being a humorist is a combination of timing and shock, your post displayed neither.

Massapequa and Farmingdale are both still relevant because they played lacrosse this week and in Massapequa's case their season is still alive while Syosset's season has been over for a week and a half and they are no longer part of the 2017 lacrosse conversation.

Your "shock" value of mentioning underpants in a post has lost all of its steam as the non-event, event happened about 14 months ago, anybody that cares about it already knows about it and anybody that doesn't know about it at this point doesn't care about it.

If you are looking for an entertaining movie to go see this weekend I would suggest
BOTC "Braves off Their Clothes" ...

It is a fascinating story of a little man with Autoerotic Asphyxiation who can only reach climax while choking himself with one hand while typing about teenage lacrosse players in their underwear with the other.

Look in the mirror and you will notice the star of the movie

For a guy who doesn't care that's an awfully long winded post! I think you REALLY do care, don't you? Doesn't matter if it was 14 months ago or not, if the Not so Brave daddies keep posting on here about others, well stands to reason their going to get some of it back. You'll notice this all started because one Syo moron had to call Pequa players average, nice to know the average boys beat the pants off your below average boys. Bye now

Technically, those Syo boys with "no pants" beat the pants off of Pequa 2X last year...

Oh, and The Pequa Red Cup Brigade started all this by going after a specifically identifiable Syosset player. That's pathetic. You should be ashamed, holding yourself out as such a stand up person.

Good luck against WM.

Keep living in the past! I choose to live in the here and now! This was all started when YOU called the Pequa boys average, trying to get a reaction, well you got one you half wit wanna be. Go spout your self righteous [lacrosse] to someone who actually believes it, like yourself. No one likes anything about your town or your parents, nothing but a bunch of self centered cry babies. By the way, we don't need or want your poisonous luck, we'll do just fine, and the difference between a Pequa parent and a Syosset parent is that if we should lose, we will root for WM to carry LI, and we certainly won't come on here to try to justify our loss and rip the other team. The really pathetic thing here is how you sold out of your sons dignity, whether it was 4 months or 14 months ago. I would never allow that to happen to my son! But go ahead and try to justify it in your own perverted mind. Anyway, see you around you pompous jerk!

Sorry, Pequa is not an average team. That's not right.

They are actually mediocre, but are very well coached.

I've got:

Pequa
n7tnut
GC

CHH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best rivalry in all sports on LI. Fdale-pequa goes back decades. Absolutely hate eachother on the field. After high school become some of best friends. Can't think of a better football/lacrosse rivalry.

Agree 100%

Garden City and Manhassett

Post said football, they don't play each other. Different conferences

Zip up vest against zip up vest ? Maybe u are right

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Wow you syosset parents are like a venereal disease, extremely irritating and won't go away..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Wow you syosset parents are like a venereal disease, extremely irritating and won't go away..

Wow! Now you're talking about something that you actually have some experience and knowledge about. Good luck with all that. Better not share any of those red cups tomorrow at the tailgate.

Hey syosset dad, just make sure your kid wears his pants at the game tomorrow, it's not optional like it is in your town

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Wow you syosset parents are like a venereal disease, extremely irritating and won't go away..

Wow! Now you're talking about something that you actually have some experience and knowledge about. Good luck with all that. Better not share any of those red cups tomorrow at the tailgate.

Ha, the **** dads are talking ****, go hug your son coward. Your team lost and you disappointed your son, go say sorry you chicken **** ****, we have a lacrosse game to go to tomorrow. You should go shop for pants you *****, go hang your head in shame you spineless *** **** loser, the whole county is laughing at you!

Pequa may be average, but syosset dads are the biggest laughingstocks in the Ling Island lacrosse community.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa may be average, but syosset dads are the biggest laughingstocks in the Ling Island lacrosse community.

Where is Ling Island? Is it near Mass

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stupid is as stupid posts, and you are stupid. Do you even proof read before you post?

Wow you syosset parents are like a venereal disease, extremely irritating and won't go away..

Wow! Now you're talking about something that you actually have some experience and knowledge about. Good luck with all that. Better not share any of those red cups tomorrow at the tailgate.

Ha

Don't forget to stop at the store on the way to the game to pick up some red cups.

Suffolk County remains CHAMPS. Congrats to Ward Melville!

The language and ridiculous attempts at vulgar humor towards HS players and fans are really proving the stereotype that the rest of the lacrosse world has of Long Island lacrosse parents.
Might want to consider growing up and posting your opinion like an adult.
If not then the stereotype clearly rings true......

WM was a great team who play a very physical brand of lacrosse, congratulations on your win. WM fans won and acted with class. Go take the State!

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

I agree. Horrible showing by the SWR parents and fans. Very trashy!

Too bad WM can't play CSH. I'd love to see that game.

When you think of L.I Lacrosse What team comes to mind ? Do you think Ward Melville just the thick history that comes from Them ? Is that LI lacrosse Mecca ? How many county LI and state championships

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you think of L.I Lacrosse What team comes to mind ? Do you think Ward Melville just the thick history that comes from Them ? Is that LI lacrosse Mecca ? How many county LI and state championships

If it is all the lacrosse played, girls and boys, Garden City. If just boys, Ward Melville then GC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you think of L.I Lacrosse What team comes to mind ? Do you think Ward Melville just the thick history that comes from Them ? Is that LI lacrosse Mecca ? How many county LI and state championships

No, lots of great teams

[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

mrs coach has been a cancer where ever she goes. at least now she only rots 1 age group.2019 thanks you for leaving! hows that hold back thing working out for you.

Yes I believe when you think of Long Island lacrosse Ward Melville is has so much history as a youth program , generations of family's played there then coach there children there Etc. I believe they are known outside Long Island . Those green and yellow helmets stick out !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you think of L.I Lacrosse What team comes to mind ? Do you think Ward Melville just the thick history that comes from Them ? Is that LI lacrosse Mecca ? How many county LI and state championships

No, lots of great teams

Top Programs

Ward Melville
Garden City
Manhasset
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset
Massapequa

Only 1 Suffolk team ? I'll add 2 more Smithtown and you can throw Sachem in the mix .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa may be average, but syosset dads are the biggest laughingstocks in the Ling Island lacrosse community.

Where is Ling Island? Is it near Mass

Nooo, "Ling Island" is just south of mainland China.

List of Long Island Champions:
Team # Year
WARD MELVILLE 16 1974, 1976, 1978, 1983, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2013, 2016
GARDEN CITY 13 1966, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 2000, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
MANHASSET 13 1963, 1964, 1967, 1984, 1988, 1995, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2015
WEST ISLIP 7 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012
ELMONT 6 1970, 1977, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1990
SHOREHAM-WADING RIVER 6 2002, 2003, 2007, 2012, 2013, 2016
HUNTINGTON 5 1965, 1975, 2005, 2006, 2007
LYNBROOK 4 1992, 1999, 2000, 2014
COLD SPRING HARBOR 3 2006, 2015, 2016
FARMINGDALE 3 1991, 2003, 2011
SACHEM 3 1979, 1993, 1995
EAST MEADOW 3 1971, 1972, 1973
SYOSSET 2 2008, 2015
NORTHPORT 2 2001, 2002
COMSEWOGUE 2 1998, 2002
MASSAPEQUA 1 2014
BABYLON 1 2014
BAYPORT-BLUE POINT 1 2011
SAYVILLE 1 2009
ROCKY POINT 1 2008
MOUNT SINAI 1 2008
SOUTH SIDE 1 2004
WANTAGH 1 2001
BETHPAGE 1 1996
SEWANHAKA 1 1981
HERRICKS 1

List of State Champions:
SCHOOL & # of Championships
West Genesee 15
Niskayuna 1
Ward Melville 8
Bronxville 1
Yorktown 7
Massapequa 1
Garden City 6
Farmingdale 1
Jamesville-Dewitt 5
Canandiagua 1
West Islip 5
Rocky Point 1
Manhasset 4
Mt. Sinai 1
Cold Spring Harbor 3
Wantagh 1
Shoreham-Wading River 3
Northport 1
Victor 2
Penn Yan 1
Cazenovia 2
South Side 1
Huntington 2
Bethpage 1
Comsewogue 2
Corning East 1
Lafayette 2
Cortland 1
Lynbrook 2
Mahopac 1
Sachem 2
Henninger 1
Elmont 2

List of State Champions since 2007
Year A B C
2007 WEST ISLIP JAMESVILLE-DEWITT SHOREHAM-WADING RIVER
2008 WEST GENESEE ROCKY POINT MOUNT SINAI
2009 WEST ISLIP CANANDAIGUA MANHASSET
2010 WEST ISLIP JAMESVILLE-DEWITT MANHASSET
2011 FARMINGDALE JAMESVILLE-DEWITT CAZENOVIA
2012 WEST ISLIP GARDEN CITY SHOREHAM-WADING RIVER
2013 WARD MELVILLE GARDEN CITY CAZENOVIA
2014 MASSAPEQUA YORKTOWN BRONXVILLE
2015 NISKAYUNA VICTOR COLD SPRING HARBOR
2016 VICTOR JAMESVILLE-DEWITT COLD SPRING HARBOR

dude, good one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you think of L.I Lacrosse What team comes to mind ? Do you think Ward Melville just the thick history that comes from Them ? Is that LI lacrosse Mecca ? How many county LI and state championships

No, lots of great teams

Top Programs

Ward Melville
Garden City
Manhasset
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset
Massapequa

Have all of these programs won a State Championship? If no state then they don't belong on the list.

Take out sachem and smithtown , west islip and SWR !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 1 Suffolk team ? I'll add 2 more Smithtown and you can throw Sachem in the mix .

Sorry, neither Smithtown or Sachem in the mix with the 5 teams Listed.

Recent History (5 years) the top Programs are

Ward Melville
GC
Manhasset
CHS
Syosset
Massapequa

Overall The top programs are / have been

Ward Melville
Garden City
Manhasset
Farmingdale
CHS
Massapequa
West Islip
Lynbrook
Syosset
?????
Not sure who I would say rounds out the top 10 programs.

Maybe SWR

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

I forgot my password for laxpower, but if anyone goes on that site, please someone tell "Stickhead" "I told you so. CSH over SWR" Had a little debate on the matter at the beginning of this season. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 1 Suffolk team ? I'll add 2 more Smithtown and you can throw Sachem in the mix .

There is 2 Suffolk teams listed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 1 Suffolk team ? I'll add 2 more Smithtown and you can throw Sachem in the mix .

There is 2 Suffolk teams listed.

Remove any team without state championship, can't talk about a team being a TOP program if they haven't reached the TOP yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 1 Suffolk team ? I'll add 2 more Smithtown and you can throw Sachem in the mix .

There is 2 Suffolk teams listed.

Cold Spring Harbor plays as if it were in Nassau County. WM was the only one he listed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

We should also probably note that Chaminade and St. Anthony's are generally in the mix for best team on Long Island in any given year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey syosset dad, just make sure your kid wears his pants at the game tomorrow, it's not optional like it is in your town

lmao that was really funny. you got them good. #burn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

Cannot be a top team without the top honor. Teams with a state title in the last 10 years are the only ones to be considered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

What about Chaminade, has to be in the conversation if were talking All Time Top Programs.

um, Manhasset anyone???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

Each team on the list has won the state championship in the past 5 years, except one. That team should be the exception keeping it off the list of true Top teams. Good team, but not a top team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

um, Manhasset anyone???

Of course, as well as the two big Catholics! Oversight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

Cannot be a top team without the top honor. Teams with a state title in the last 10 years are the only ones to be considered.

10 years is a long time ago. Anything over the past 3 - 5 years is ancient history. Which programs are in their league/county championship almost every year?? Who are the teams who have multiple county championships over the past 3 - 5 years?? Who has won a Long Island or State Championship over the past 3 - 5 years??

Those are the best programs right now.

WM, GC, CSH all come to mind. Syo and Pequa have been very consistent as well.

Who else? maybe Manhasset? I do not know how they have finished the past 3 - 5 years.

East Islip high School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

East Islip high School

LOL !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on Long Island should have certain criteria. I would think state championships is the #1 criteria, followed by Long Island Championships and finally County Championships.

All time Top Programs maybe a State Championship should be considered. However the "current" top programs State Championship may or may not be relevant . Winning two or three County Championships over the past five years is certainly more relevant than winning a State Championship 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 , 35 or 40 years ago.

The Top two Programs are without question:
- Ward Melville (Suffolk)
- Garden City (Nassau)

The "Current" recent history "3-5 years" Top Programs are

WM
GC
cSH
Pequa
Syo

Cannot be a top team without the top honor. Teams with a state title in the last 10 years are the only ones to be considered.

10 years is a long time ago. Anything over the past 3 - 5 years is ancient history. Which programs are in their league/county championship almost every year?? Who are the teams who have multiple county championships over the past 3 - 5 years?? Who has won a Long Island or State Championship over the past 3 - 5 years??

Those are the best programs right now.

WM, GC, CSH all come to mind. Syo and Pequa have been very consistent as well.

Who else? maybe Manhasset? I do not know how they have finished the past 3 - 5 years.

They lost to Victor in state final in 2015

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which team / person had the most disappointing ending to their season?

A) St Anthony Team - forfeited season
B) illegal player for Friars
C) st ants parents who tried to reclass / manipulate the system with theis son
D) player who's mommy who ratted out st ants player
E) mommy wh complained so her son could play
AB) Syosset team
AC) suspended Syosset goalie
AD) big mouth braggadocio Syosset dads
AE) soon to be former Syosset head coach

Baahahhhhaaaa

I think you are right the Syo HC has gotta go and it's long overdue. The persona and reputation is in such a decline in the school, the local community and amongst their opponents.Coach C can no longer just roll the balls out there and have magic appear , those prior teams were a special group of young men.

Igloo dads won't let that happen!!!

Igloo dads won't let JC get tossed they have too much invested in him.

Don't worry Syosset, you are not the only town with Igloo entitlement.

What did everyone think of the top 20 tryouts? Seemed teams were stacked prior with kids to be picked for next round. Seems to have turned into another money grab. Coaches were hardly even watching the games.

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What did everyone think of the top 20 tryouts? Seemed teams were stacked prior with kids to be picked for next round. Seems to have turned into another money grab. Coaches were hardly even watching the games.

What exactly is the top 20 tryout? Please forgive my ignorance.

Long Island Nassau/ Suffolk
Tryouts beach today with the rising junior bracket. About 100 kids were there and they will cut down to 40 for a second tryout. Cuts should be up tonite.
Teams were divided fairly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Suffolk....One team had all the Leg kids and two of the best fogos, most made it to next round. Another team was stacked with Crush kids and most it through. Was this an accident? I think not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

Poorly coached. They should be voted off the island for not winning with that talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Should include all private and catholic kids at this tryout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

You are right. Same story year in and year out. Is it the coaching, or the parents pre anointing the kids state champ and the best team ever?

Long Island is extremely competitive region. SE kids just get more press because of the Turtles/Lax Unlimited connection

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

They ,SE, will be okay only because others team's wont b as strong either. Smithtown West will dominate the smithtowns for the next 2/3 years. That said Ward Melville will be relatively untouched. I hope they (Patriots) play Chaminade and St Anthony's the next few years. Those will be the battles of Li. You could potentially have 2 teams in the top 5. Ward Melville will also benefit, indirectly, from the catholic school wide array of schools on their schedule.

Coming up next will be Massapequa and Garden City. Islip Riverhead ESM Manhasset SWR Kellenberg make up the next level. Maybe Wantaugh, Hills, Syo. Dalers always a wild card along with Port. LV will be strong as well. Who gets derailed who gets suspensions along the way have a saf hard working summer..

And for you Ward Melville, go take states, go patriots!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

You are right. Same story year in and year out. Is it the coaching, or the parents pre anointing the kids state champ and the best team ever?

How can you complain about the coaching? They have 3 on the sideline and 8 father coaches in the stands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Should include all private and catholic kids at this tryout

Why? They can do their own top 20, I mean top 20 holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Should include all private and catholic kids at this tryout

The showcase is run by the public school coaches associations in Nassau and Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

They ,SE, will be okay only because others team's wont b as strong either. Smithtown West will dominate the smithtowns for the next 2/3 years. That said Ward Melville will be relatively untouched. I hope they (Patriots) play Chaminade and St Anthony's the next few years. Those will be the battles of Li. You could potentially have 2 teams in the top 5. Ward Melville will also benefit, indirectly, from the catholic school wide array of schools on their schedule.

Coming up next will be Massapequa and Garden City. Islip Riverhead ESM Manhasset SWR Kellenberg make up the next level. Maybe Wantaugh, Hills, Syo. Dalers always a wild card along with Port. LV will be strong as well. Who gets derailed who gets suspensions along the way have a saf hard working summer..

And for you Ward Melville, go take states, go patriots!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

They ,SE, will be okay only because others team's wont b as strong either. Smithtown West will dominate the smithtowns for the next 2/3 years. That said Ward Melville will be relatively untouched. I hope they (Patriots) play Chaminade and St Anthony's the next few years. Those will be the battles of Li. You could potentially have 2 teams in the top 5. Ward Melville will also benefit, indirectly, from the catholic school wide array of schools on their schedule.

Coming up next will be Massapequa and Garden City. Islip Riverhead ESM Manhasset SWR Kellenberg make up the next level. Maybe Wantaugh, Hills, Syo. Dalers always a wild card along with Port. LV will be strong as well. Who gets derailed who gets suspensions along the way have a saf hard working summer..

And for you Ward Melville, go take states, go patriots!!!

Love how none of these so called list never include a team like Lynbrook or South Side

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Should include all private and catholic kids at this tryout

Why? They can do their own top 20, I mean top 20 holdbacks.

Lol, Yeah ok they are all hold backs, this is absolutely a great event, but at least be honest, cant really call it a "top 20" when than a handful of 2020 St A and Chaminade kids are not in the mix at tryouts. Most people know who they are, and also know by now they are not holdbacks. So relax and enjoy the event and be glad those kids aren't there to take your sons spot.

What is the experience of kids who have participated in Committed camps? I received an invite to attend a committed camp run by 4 schools, one of which my son is committed to. I'm not sure the summer schedule will allow but seems like an interesting event. Any feedback would be helpful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Great talent above and beyond the Turtles. 0-4 getting past Suffolk. Coach never made them a collective better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Is your son's school Merrimack?

It's amazing how you Catholic school dads get, because you are just anther school on LI. On an all LI team you would have one kid on team LP D mid. That is it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Is your son's school Merrimack?

Nope, that's where your son is going, nothing wrong with that. Plenty of kids in Catholics are happy at schools like that. My son has much higher standards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Will any start, or even play next year? Can only think of 2-3 that could get some playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Is your son's school Merrimack?

Nope, that's where your son is going, nothing wrong with that. Plenty of kids in Catholics are happy at schools like that. My son has much higher standards.

CW Post?

EAST ISLIP LACROSSE WATCH OUT 2018 team is stacked with D1 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Ouch...sounds a little bitter for not living up to expectations. Those daddy's have had their boys training year round since the 3rd grade. That's great 22 out of 22 will be playing D1 college lacrosse, but remember 22 out of 22 can't say they won Suffolk A or LIC 2017. A high school memory forever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Is your son's school Merrimack?

Nope, that's where your son is going, nothing wrong with that. Plenty of kids in Catholics are happy at schools like that. My son has much higher standards.

CW Post?

On behalf of all kids going to Merrimack and LIU Post - you can both go fv¢% yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't be taking my sons spot, he outplays those kids on the summer circuit, everyone knows the top LI HS recruits come from the publics. And we don't have the weasel club coaches picking this team. So yes top 20. Perhaps you haven't seen the sidelines at this event, it's standing room only for college coaches, mostly head coaches.

Ok dad....If catholics were allowed your son wouldn't get an invite. Please stop dad.....your making me look stupid.

Ok mom, keep writing your check for mediocre lax and education. Mine is committed to a top school and playing for a real championship. Nice try though!

Is your son's school Merrimack?

Nope, that's where your son is going, nothing wrong with that. Plenty of kids in Catholics are happy at schools like that. My son has much higher standards.

CW Post?

Very funny, but your alma matter is fine for some, mine is going to a top ten. Dont be jealous , it worked out for him/us. Hope your son can achieve the same, tell him to keep working hard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

If you want to win HS lacrosse, then you play as a team. Fire power, fogo's, D-1 commits...none of it means squat if you cant play as a unit.

Sachem North turtle has a good chance to get some playing time with the national champs Maryland he's that good , but doesn't get much attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Ouch...sounds a little bitter for not living up to expectations. Those daddy's have had their boys training year round since the 3rd grade. That's great 22 out of 22 will be playing D1 college lacrosse, but remember 22 out of 22 can't say they won Suffolk A or LIC 2017. A high school memory forever.

A bunch won Nassau C, LIC and NYS Championships last year, and two of three so far this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Completely understood and earned...mad respect! Was simply stating the end of an era...sort of like the lull the Yankees wen through before Judge came on the scene.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Will any start, or even play next year? Can only think of 2-3 that could get some playing time.

Really? depends on the school. Look at the number of freshman that contributed at the college level this year. I think 80% see the field year one.

"Very funny, but your alma matter is fine for some, mine is going to a top ten. Dont be jealous , it worked out for him/us. Hope your son can achieve the same, tell him to keep working hard!"

Dude, really?!? Alma matter? Guessing your alma mater has three letters, they are not I,V or Y but pretty sure they ARE N.C.C. Come on, if you're going to mock someone's smarts, make sure YOU don't come out looking dumber than they are! Just to be correct here: Alma mater is an allegorical Latin phrase for a university or college. In modern usage, it is a school or university which an individual has attended

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How big of a bust was smithtown east again this year all that talent past 3,4 years and can't even make it off L.I is there Era done ?? Year after year they had so much fire power, faceoff guys etc

The era of the Turtle is over.

Yes, the era of the Turtle is over....

Oh wait, except for the fact that 22 out of 22 Turtles will be playing D1 College Lacrosse.

Ouch...sounds a little bitter for not living up to expectations. Those daddy's have had their boys training year round since the 3rd grade. That's great 22 out of 22 will be playing D1 college lacrosse, but remember 22 out of 22 can't say they won Suffolk A or LIC 2017. A high school memory forever.

True.... Good thing they all have a chance to win an NCAA D1 Championship, a memory forever. Many were starters on HS Teams that won Suffolk, Nassau Champoinships, LIC (Class A,B&C) and of course a few won NYS Championships.

Its so funny. The same guys that tout the schools their kids will be going to and bash "lesser" schools are the same guys in the workplace who bash the ivy league grads they work with (or for). Funny how the prism changes...

SOMERS, N.Y. – Members of the Somers girls varsity lacrosse team said members of the Yorktown High School boys varsity lacrosse team harassed and intimidated them at the Section 1 Class B Girls Lacrosse championship game May 25, at Yorktown High School.
In two statements released June 6, Somers Central School District administrators said members of the Somers girls lacrosse team were preparing for the game in the Yorktown boys locker room when members of the Yorktown boys lacrosse team entered and “engaged in harassing and intimidating behavior,” which caused the girls lacrosse students to leave, and relocate to a different locker room.
The incident was investigated internally and follow-up conversations were had with Yorktown school officials to make them aware of the outcome of the investigation, said Somers Superintendent Dr. Raymond Blanch. He added that the information was also shared with the Section 1 Office of Interscholastic Athletics, and that an update will be released with any new information provided by either organization.
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“We have considered all avenues available to address this situation, including consulting legal counsel,” Blanch, Somers High School Principal Mark Bayer and Somers Athletic Director Roman Catalino wrote in a statement to parents. They added that the school is available to support any students impacted by this incident, and encouraged any students to contact the Somers administration if they need assistance.
Messages left for Dr. Ralph Napolitano, superintendent of schools for Yorktown, and Fio Nardone, athletic director for Yorktown, were not immediately returned.
“As superintendent of the Somers Central School District, I find this incident to be both concerning and upsetting,” Blanch said. “Unfortunately, what should have been a day showcasing the competitive-spirit, athletic abilities and sportsmanship of both teams, was marred by the rude and disrespectful behavior of certain students.”
This story will be updated as more information becomes available.

Sorry EI, too many of your players leave to private over the years. Start retaining your talent then maybe you get out of Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

EAST ISLIP LACROSSE WATCH OUT 2018 team is stacked with D1 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

EAST ISLIP LACROSSE WATCH OUT 2018 team is stacked with D1 kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security.

Really?
SWR has always been a first class program and still is.
Lax Out Cancer and many other outreach events are held by this team.
The actions of over zealous security members can't be overlooked here as well.
Do you all know that a SB security member was cursing and grabbing HS girls and women prompting some Dads to intervene?
There is way more to this than you gossip queens know.
But you'll keep going I'm sure as you must. Makes for good reality TV and posting opinions with no information is typical here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop because your kid didnt have a good day your calling bull? Are there phone calls made absolutely. Coaches were watching. Kids will make it on their names even if they had a bad day. Well this kid is committed so he should make it over a kid that is not. I get that. Teams were not stacked. Looked even.

Actually teams were stacked. Was rediculous!

So which of the seven teams were the stacked teams?

Nassau or Suffolk? maybe your talking about two different tryouts

Should include all private and catholic kids at this tryout

Why? They can do their own top 20, I mean top 20 holdbacks.

Good one - True,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Your post makes no sense. This is about class C. Obviously a no pants dad stirring the pot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Your post makes no sense. This is about class C. Obviously a no pants dad stirring the pot

And your post makes no sense. This most likely would be posted by someone from Suffolk trying to make a point that it's better than Nassau . Not someone from the town you're trying to bring back into the conversation. I've got no dog in this fight but whether these postings are coming from one person or a few different, your unhealthy obsession with that town and constant need to steer the convo back that way is becoming embarrassing .

Anyone know of a way to see the games today online

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a way to see the games today online

Time Warner Cable, Spectrumnews app streaming live.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know of a way to see the games today online

Wm going to state championship!!!

WM and CSH both play pretty poorly but advance, GC down early vs YTown

Bay Shore AD retired. 3 years too late

GC losses to Yorktown in double OT. 5-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Your post makes no sense. This is about class C. Obviously a no pants dad stirring the pot

And your post makes no sense. This most likely would be posted by someone from Suffolk trying to make a point that it's better than Nassau . Not someone from the town you're trying to bring back into the conversation. I've got no dog in this fight but whether these postings are coming from one person or a few different, your unhealthy obsession with that town and constant need to steer the convo back that way is becoming embarrassing .

No sorry, it's not a Suffolk person, they acted with class and dignity. Complete opposite of the no pants dads. Don't care if you're embarrassed by it, should have ensured the pants were worn. The obsession is the no pant dad who brought Pequa into a post about class c. Your post is nonsense.

So with the County dinner right around the corner, will Smithtown East get player of the year for the third straight year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Your post makes no sense. This is about class C. Obviously a no pants dad stirring the pot

And your post makes no sense. This most likely would be posted by someone from Suffolk trying to make a point that it's better than Nassau . Not someone from the town you're trying to bring back into the conversation. I've got no dog in this fight but whether these postings are coming from one person or a few different, your unhealthy obsession with that town and constant need to steer the convo back that way is becoming embarrassing .

No sorry, it's not a Suffolk person, they acted with class and dignity. Complete opposite of the no pants dads. Don't care if you're embarrassed by it, should have ensured the pants were worn. The obsession is the no pant dad who brought Pequa into a post about class c. Your post is nonsense.

U need a straight jacket and some meds dude, u sound like a nutbag that's quickly unravelling. It's BOTC, it's not that serious .

NO PANTS! Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security

Can someone say Pequa LIC champs.........not! Suffolk wouldn't have it!

Your post makes no sense. This is about class C. Obviously a no pants dad stirring the pot

hahahahahaha no pants dad. Where do you come up with this stuff? Pure gold!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC losses to Yorktown in double OT. 5-4

Yorktown couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, their defense was stiffling and GC didn't do enough to get their top guys free. Yorktown should win states with that D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security.

Really?
SWR has always been a first class program and still is.
Lax Out Cancer and many other outreach events are held by this team.
The actions of over zealous security members can't be overlooked here as well.
Do you all know that a SB security member was cursing and grabbing HS girls and women prompting some Dads to intervene?
There is way more to this than you gossip queens know.
But you'll keep going I'm sure as you must. Makes for good reality TV and posting opinions with no information is typical here.

Regardless, some SWR parents were removed from the stadium by security. Fact. It's not a reflection on SWR, just a statement of fact.

If it's not that serious, what's the problem? Just some good humored No Pants gags! Like knock-knock jokes, just without pants!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security.

Really?
SWR has always been a first class program and still is.
Lax Out Cancer and many other outreach events are held by this team.
The actions of over zealous security members can't be overlooked here as well.
Do you all know that a SB security member was cursing and grabbing HS girls and women prompting some Dads to intervene?
There is way more to this than you gossip queens know.
But you'll keep going I'm sure as you must. Makes for good reality TV and posting opinions with no information is typical here.

Regardless, some SWR parents were removed from the stadium by security. Fact. It's not a reflection on SWR, just a statement of fact.

SWR students showed up drunk and disorderly. The part about the security guard is an outright lie, I saw the whole thing. The SWR security guards were flat out disgusted and were unable to control the students. Coaches wife made a big mistake getting involved, escalated the whole debacle. Parents were sticking up for the misbehaving kids, some were removed after acting like thugs. A crap show! But was far more entertaining than the actual beatdown of a game.

No Pants Dads!

All the years of that nuclear sediment in the ground and air clearly has is having an effect on the inhabitants of SWR for better or for worse... back to your banjos on the porch. Take that "Stick" from the Laxpower forum as well. Clearly he has sipped the contaminated cool-aid as well.

If it wasn't for the LILCO / LIPA tax dollars from the never opened power plant, SWR would be Riverhead.

True a few do leave for privates But that is true every where EI will rule Suffolk B 2018 after that they will have big drop off.

should suspend program if they can not discipline them. Embarrassment to district

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If it's not that serious, what's the problem? Just some good humored No Pants gags! Like knock-knock jokes, just without pants!

hahahaha again with the burn!! no pants, no ragrets. You guys are crazy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Pants Dads!

HAHAHA SYOSSET NO PANTS. This guys good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True a few do leave for privates But that is true every where EI will rule Suffolk B 2018 after that they will have big drop off.

How come they didn't rule Suffolk this year?

For anyone interested, I Just got an email from Titans Lacrosse giving away 4 free spots to Blatant Exposure College Showcase on July 13. Details on their Facebook page.

Opinions on the 2019 Suffolk tryout today?

Is there anywhere to rewatch the state semifinal games? Not only the highlights..

EI was young .. 9th, 10th 11 graders BUT... they took first place beat Hills, beat SWR
Next year watch out .... D1 kids in all skill positions should be fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there anywhere to rewatch the state semifinal games? Not only the highlights..

i believe ESPN will be showing them in their entirety with slow mo of all the highlights, background interviews of the players and coaches and interviews of fans! It should be on right after never, but before not happening. Personally I can't wait! I'm going to set the DVR and I hooked up my old beta max system so I can double up the joy of watching it over and over! EXCITING!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there anywhere to rewatch the state semifinal games? Not only the highlights..

i believe ESPN will be showing them in their entirety with slow mo of all the highlights, background interviews of the players and coaches and interviews of fans! It should be on right after never, but before not happening. Personally I can't wait! I'm going to set the DVR and I hooked up my old beta max system so I can double up the joy of watching it over and over! EXCITING!

Really, come on man! Why do you have to be like that?

I said a prayer for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Opinions on the 2019 Suffolk tryout today?

About 175 kids there lots of talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there anywhere to rewatch the state semifinal games? Not only the highlights..

i believe ESPN will be showing them in their entirety with slow mo of all the highlights, background interviews of the players and coaches and interviews of fans! It should be on right after never, but before not happening. Personally I can't wait! I'm going to set the DVR and I hooked up my old beta max system so I can double up the joy of watching it over and over! EXCITING!

Really, come on man! Why do you have to be like that?

I said a prayer for you.

In the words of Sgt Hulka, lighten up Francis!

Good Luck to all the LI teams up in Rochester for the State Finals. Make us proud!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR was beatdown by CSH, outplayed at every position. Looked like college against HS. The bigger show was the embarrassment caused by the out of control SWR student fans and parents. What a disgusting and obnoxious display, coaches wife along with the rest of the Lax bro dads should have been ejected. CSH won with class, congrats!

Some were removed from the stadium by security.

Really?
SWR has always been a first class program and still is.
Lax Out Cancer and many other outreach events are held by this team.
The actions of over zealous security members can't be overlooked here as well.
Do you all know that a SB security member was cursing and grabbing HS girls and women prompting some Dads to intervene?
There is way more to this than you gossip queens know.
But you'll keep going I'm sure as you must. Makes for good reality TV and posting opinions with no information is typical here.

Regardless, some SWR parents were removed from the stadium by security. Fact. It's not a reflection on SWR, just a statement of fact.

SWR students showed up drunk and disorderly. The part about the security guard is an outright lie, I saw the whole thing. The SWR security guards were flat out disgusted and were unable to control the students. Coaches wife made a big mistake getting involved, escalated the whole debacle. Parents were sticking up for the misbehaving kids, some were removed after acting like thugs. A crap show! But was far more entertaining than the actual beatdown of a game.

You are completely full of crap. You my friend are a liar and apparently blind as well.
The kids were just being kids. I'm sure you did far worse!
The "rent-a-cop" who was grabbing women and F bombing young kids hasn't a clue about how to handle situations like this. Any law enforcement member will tell you that your supposed to diffuse the situation...not be a complete idiot and single handedly escalate it!
A couple of seniors had been drinking....OMG NO! Lol. You all did the same thing as seniors too. Difference is that now you've all become such ridiculous control freaks and intolerant [lacrosse] bags that you curse these kids for being kids.
How about you all stop throwing stones because we can all see through your glass houses. Maybe we have this teen suicide and drug epidemic because kids aren't allowed to make mistakes today and not be perfect because it might reflect poorly on you. YOU the same people on here bullying people and talking like spoiled little punk asses yourselves with your childish comments.
The comments on this site are easily reviewed and after a very short time you will see how immature today's parents are. Grow up already!

Losers living through their kids who have nothing better to do. What a shame.

Finally someone calling the perfect parent's out for lies and nonsense.
THANK YOU!!!!!!

WM loses again! Ironic after all chirping about the "Dynasty" . Face facts LI , upstate lax is better.

Spoke too soon there buddy hahah. It's alright you tried pal. Melville with quite possibly the greatest comeback of all time 9-5 w 1:00 left and wins the game!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM loses again! Ironic after all chirping about the "Dynasty" . Face facts LI , upstate lax is better.

Without a doubt dbag of the year!!!

Haha. The Mecca Ward Melville = Dynasty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haha. The Mecca Ward Melville = Dynasty

Would most successful high school lacrosse team in the history of long island lax be more suitable to your liking, or are you too stupid to comprehend that??

Actually CHS is the real Dynasty. Only team in history to win 3 strait. Until someone else does, you are all pretenders

CONGRATS to Ward Melville....NYS Champs!! What a game!!

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Buddy....don't be jealous, let me know when you do the same. Until then you need to quiet down.

Sorry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Buddy....don't be jealous, let me know when you do the same. Until then you need to quiet down.

It's alright pal I'm perfectly content with having the most state wins in Long Island history, in the big boys division no less.

No way u go thru WM, SE, Pequa/ Syo. Three years in a row.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Buddy....don't be jealous, let me know when you do the same. Until then you need to quiet down.

You're so pathetic, along with your 3 championships, in C div nonetheless. Go back a few pages and compare your team accomplishments to wm and then crawl back into your hole !! Don't forget to bring your 3 trophies with you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Buddy....don't be jealous, let me know when you do the same. Until then you need to quiet down.

Congrats Melville, jealous csh poster is obvious tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

Buddy....don't be jealous, let me know when you do the same. Until then you need to quiet down.

You're so pathetic, along with your 3 championships, in C div nonetheless. Go back a few pages and compare your team accomplishments to wm and then crawl back into your hole !! Don't forget to bring your 3 trophies with you

LI record 3 consecutive Championships! Wow! congratulations to all the LI winners! Don't be a hater, maybe one day you'll have a threepeat, until then, be humble and sit down!

While the parents are on here talking smack...just want to remind everyone that many of the CSH kids friends w WM kids. CSH and WM are 2017 State Champions. They will be friends for life and share these memories forever. Congratulations boys.

Nice job WM, good to see CSH 3 peat, but tend to agree, Set and Syo on schedule last few yrs, but no Set this year, schedule not that impressive.

If they were in a good chance they would not have won nassau

Bottom line is , WM and CSH both NYS Champs, period! No ifs!

CSH just won the triple crown and some people are taking about workout times. They are a great team that beat everybody on their schedule (58 -2 over the last three years with 3 straight NYS championships) . Congrats from a town to your west.

How is the kid that got punched in the face by the WI kid ?

Didn't Jamesville Dewitt beat Victor this year?

And three village in-bred DAD from Ward Melville High School claiming the multiple State titles as "his" while putting CSH down is a moron. How many of those are you responsible for??? And putting down a team that just won; you are the definition of a loser. Congrats to your son and his team on winning, despite you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

A just means bigger enrollment, not better lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No way u go thru WM, SE, Pequa/ Syo. Three years in a row.

Horrible the jealousy. CSH & WM both have accomplished GREAT stuff, congrats to them!!! Why is SE in the convo??? They havent won anything in past 4 years. BS hype.

Hypothetical....

How about a Fatal Four Way?

LI Class A Champ - Ward Melville (20-2 Losses to Cham & Sudbury)
LI Class B Champ - Garden City (16-4 Losses to SYO, Ignatious, Manhasset, Yorktown)
LI Class C Champ - CSH (Undefeated)
Cath AAA Champ - Chaminade (11-4 Losses to Mcdonogh Ignatious, Manhasset, Delbarton)

Many common opponents among these teams but only 1 direct game between these 4.

Final four style (no seeds needed) .... How would it all shake out?

National Lacrosse tournament at Ward Melville HS.

There are some very good teams there, why no area Catholic schools (Chaminade St Anthony's and Kellenberg would add to this). Would have been nice to have SWR CSH as well.

West islip
Yorktown
Ward Melville
Farmingdale
Islip
Smithtown E
Smithtown West
Garden City
Northport
Massapequa

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

You beat SW by 1
Southside by 1, they lost 7 games.
Syo put up 12 goals on you. next you have to play WM. Pequa, GC.

EAST ISLIP HIGH SCHOOL WINNER

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

catholic and C(Population Teams) have a hard time having a large enough roster to enter theses high school only deals.

most Catholic school kids if serious are on one of the club teams(Express), and the C programs don't have the necessary 16/18 kids week after week to play.

IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

catholic and C(Population Teams) have a hard time having a large enough roster to enter theses high school only deals.

most Catholic school kids if serious are on one of the club teams(Express), and the C programs don't have the necessary 16/18 kids week after week to play.

IMHO.

Most C programs kids who are serious are also on club teams. And if your HS coach is affiliated with a club team, then he might push his HS players towards that club, and they might make up a decent proportion of that club team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

A just means bigger enrollment, not better lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You won 3 straight in class C buddy let's not act like it's as impressive as if you did that in A

A just means bigger enrollment, not better lacrosse.

Agreed. Same uncontrollable situation with several HS programs with only 1 or 2 legitimate D1 players that are hidden due to being on bad HS teams. Plenty of them on LI & NJ that are forgotten.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

The coach sucks. He has talented players so team does well despite him being such a bad coach. I am not saying be has the best players but more than a handfull of very good and good players. They will never beat teams that are as talented or even closely talented to them because he horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

From what I interpreted is the team does well even though he is a bad coach. Probably would do better if they had a better coach.

Join a solid travel team. They develop athletes year round. Take you to showcases and have a solid recruiting record. I'll bet half your team belong to a Club and have a travel coach with extensive lacrosse credentials. That's why the team will always do well despite the coach. Although he will never admit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

From what I interpreted is the team does well even though he is a bad coach. Probably would do better if they had a better coach.

To original poster: CSH just won their third State Title in a row. They do nothing all off season as a team. All the best players play on the best travel team they can find. That's how kids get better. You play with the best kids you can find and play against the best competition. That how it works. Very few teams make the in house program work, maybe WM and WI, that's it. It creates way too many problems. Way too many hands in the till. Pay to play. Too many Coaches then start to threaten kids and make them play with the town. It's awful. Living through it now. Trust me, you don't want any part of this crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

From what I interpreted is the team does well even though he is a bad coach. Probably would do better if they had a better coach.

To original poster: CSH just won their third State Title in a row. They do nothing all off season as a team. All the best players play on the best travel team they can find. That's how kids get better. You play with the best kids you can find and play against the best competition. That how it works. Very few teams make the in house program work, maybe WM and WI, that's it. It creates way too many problems. Way too many hands in the till. Pay to play. Too many Coaches then start to threaten kids and make them play with the town. It's awful. Living through it now. Trust me, you don't want any part of this crap.

I do agree with the in house stuff becoming a nightmare. Yet shouldn't a Varsity coach be involved or have a plan for JV and maybe even middle school. Isn't the point to have a cohesiveness throughout all school related programs. The programs that have the best youth PAL and maybe even a travel program that they are affiliated with to help their players develop in the off-season is vital to a high school teams success. If their is not a good coach at the helm regardless of how good they are or what great club team they play on you need direction (plays to execute, video to watch and scout opponents, substitute at the right time, calling time outs at the right time, running practices that emphasize execution and intensity.) If you don't have a coach that has a vision and a direction for a program it is horrible. Can't have the kids running the show.

CSH had a run and season for the ages. They also had some of the top players in its senior class. I think next year is going to be a lot different. Won't have the horses they had this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

catholic and C(Population Teams) have a hard time having a large enough roster to enter theses high school only deals.

most Catholic school kids if serious are on one of the club teams(Express), and the C programs don't have the necessary 16/18 kids week after week to play.

IMHO.

I would think the Catholic players would love to play summer with their school teams. or like you said if the player is serious, and you're a state contender it's not about recruiting anymore, it now about being the best team in the state or country. and if any of them are worried about recruiting (or coaching changes), I am sure the ole adage if you build it they will come would yield positive results.

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

From what I interpreted is the team does well even though he is a bad coach. Probably would do better if they had a better coach.

To original poster: CSH just won their third State Title in a row. They do nothing all off season as a team. All the best players play on the best travel team they can find. That's how kids get better. You play with the best kids you can find and play against the best competition. That how it works. Very few teams make the in house program work, maybe WM and WI, that's it. It creates way too many problems. Way too many hands in the till. Pay to play. Too many Coaches then start to threaten kids and make them play with the town. It's awful. Living through it now. Trust me, you don't want any part of this crap.

I do agree with the in house stuff becoming a nightmare. Yet shouldn't a Varsity coach be involved or have a plan for JV and maybe even middle school. Isn't the point to have a cohesiveness throughout all school related programs. The programs that have the best youth PAL and maybe even a travel program that they are affiliated with to help their players develop in the off-season is vital to a high school teams success. If their is not a good coach at the helm regardless of how good they are or what great club team they play on you need direction (plays to execute, video to watch and scout opponents, substitute at the right time, calling time outs at the right time, running practices that emphasize execution and intensity.) If you don't have a coach that has a vision and a direction for a program it is horrible. Can't have the kids running the show.

CSH had a run and season for the ages. They also had some of the top players in its senior class. I think next year is going to be a lot different. Won't have the horses they had this year.

No team wins the championship every year but CSH has been very successful. As the post above points out "All the best players play on the best travel team they can find. That's how kids get better. You play with the best kids you can find and play against the best competition."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

You sir, are correct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

You sir, are correct.

Suffolk 2018 will destroy Nassau. They are stacked

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

You sir, are correct.

JC and SYO minions do it every year and this year especially because JC started the rising frosh to accommodate his new boss...IGLOO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

You sir, are correct.

There were two counties, four grades, four teams per grade and 20 kids per team or about 320 kids participating last night, so to think that there would be no politics involved is naive or to think that every pick would be perfect is silly but on the other hand to think that any parent watching and pulling for his own kid could possibly be impartial and qualified to determine who should and who should not make the team is also silly.

From your post I do not know what county or age you are referring to, but I think this is an unbelievable event that these HS coaches have created and given an unbelievable opportunity for so many kids to be exposed to so many college coaches and the kids that made the final 40 should all be congratulated. And all the coaches who spend so much time putting this event together should be thanked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like politics strikes again at the top 20 tryout results. Some kids did nothing yesterday but are still somehow on the team.

You sir, are correct.

Where are the names posted?

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

politics in sports? no such thing, sports are pure and clean and everyone wins just for playing. Almost couldn't type it I was laughing so hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Teams playing in Championship were given first round bye.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

All player on teams still in the playoffs are automatically passed through to the second round - chances are that a lot of very good players were on the 8 teams in the LIC that got passes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk 2018 will destroy Nassau. They are stacked

Could be the apathetic game of the year, it is not about winning it is about being scene by college coaches - Many 2018's are committed and I would guess some committed kids did not try out - hopefully all the non-committed 2018's from both counties have a good showing in front of the college coaches, that is what this is really all about.

the only way to fix this is to have evaluators who don't know the boys and can give an honest assessment. Of course there are politics involved but that doesn't mean we have to sit back and let it continue

Scam maybe...but there was 40-50 college coaches watching 2019's and my son play and no ne didn't make the final team. Good exposure and lots of talent everywhere...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Teams playing in Championship were given first round bye.

they should have the Suffolk coaches evaluate the Nassau kids and vice versa. Make it truly by the pinnie number, not the name or the helmet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk 2018 will destroy Nassau. They are stacked

What schools are the attack lines from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the only way to fix this is to have evaluators who don't know the boys and can give an honest assessment. Of course there are politics involved but that doesn't mean we have to sit back and let it continue

the best solution would be to have Lloyd Dobler be in charge - he doesn't want to coach anyone, evaluate anything, or do any lacrosse anything as a career. he doesn't want to coach anybody or play with anybody sold, bought, or processed, or pick a team from anybody that was sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, He doesn't want to do that.

But are there really any Lloyd's around anymore? no club affiliations, no high school affiliations, no kids trying out, you know, the "unbiased" evaluater needed at all tryouts my kid gets cut from

Total joke. They always have way to many kids show up even though they claim there is a cap and a limit. My son did it one year and he is a goalie and he had 5 other goalies on his scrimmage team. They were jumping in and out every few minutes. What the [lacrosse] does that do for any of them to b e evaluated and seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they should have the Suffolk coaches evaluate the Nassau kids and vice versa. Make it truly by the pinnie number, not the name or the helmet.

that would be a good first step but you will still have some potential conflicts of interest - a coach lives in one county and coaches in another would still "know" kids he is evaluating and you will still have a lot of club affiliations that cross over the counties boarders - but this would be a great first step

Congratulations to ALL of the All County and All Conference Winners. That is a huge accomplishment!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the only way to fix this is to have evaluators who don't know the boys and can give an honest assessment. Of course there are politics involved but that doesn't mean we have to sit back and let it continue

the best solution would be to have Lloyd Dobler be in charge - he doesn't want to coach anyone, evaluate anything, or do any lacrosse anything as a career. he doesn't want to coach anybody or play with anybody sold, bought, or processed, or pick a team from anybody that was sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, He doesn't want to do that.

But are there really any Lloyd's around anymore? no club affiliations, no high school affiliations, no kids trying out, you know, the "unbiased" evaluater needed at all tryouts my kid gets cut from

Awesome! Lloyd Dobler is THE BEST! He'll SAY ANYTHING to get it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they should have the Suffolk coaches evaluate the Nassau kids and vice versa. Make it truly by the pinnie number, not the name or the helmet.

What if the Suffolk coach picks bad players in an obvious attempt at winning the game? Have Westchester coaches do the picking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they should have the Suffolk coaches evaluate the Nassau kids and vice versa. Make it truly by the pinnie number, not the name or the helmet.

that would be a good first step but you will still have some potential conflicts of interest - a coach lives in one county and coaches in another would still "know" kids he is evaluating and you will still have a lot of club affiliations that cross over the counties boarders - but this would be a great first step

Pay to bring in coaches from outside the area that know none of the kids. Done

In the grand scheme of things this game is about putting the best players of Suffolk vs the best players of Nassau (committed or not committed) If you tryout and are the best a certain position you make the team. Yet this is no where near that. Its about who's coach is coaching and what kids they know or what team affiliation they have. It might be sold as a tryout but there are kids selected to this event over others that are no where near as talented. It happens at all the age groups. There are those who will come on here and say maybe kid had a bad tryout or the other kid had the day of their life at a tryout. It happens but its impossible for it to happen as frequent as suggested by the players selected year in and year out. Its blatantly obvious that there are favors being done and its not about the best kids making the team.

Yes there are the scenarios of kids who were at the states and given the pass to next round and thats fine. They deserve that courtesy and as long as they are evaluated just like everyone else in the next round its all good. I think people have issue with coaches picking players solely based on team affiliation and not actual talent. Dont get me wrong the level of lacrosse will be good because we are on Long island there are also those players that make the team because its almost impossible not to pick them they are that good. These tryouts are a farce. The kids know and see what is going on but to those who do make it its is a great honor but there are those who are selected just on helmet and not talent. Lets try and bring in some real unbiased elevators to do the job and see how the teams play out next year. It wont happen but at least we can dream a bit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the grand scheme of things this game is about putting the best players of Suffolk vs the best players of Nassau (committed or not committed) If you tryout and are the best a certain position you make the team. Yet this is no where near that. Its about who's coach is coaching and what kids they know or what team affiliation they have. It might be sold as a tryout but there are kids selected to this event over others that are no where near as talented. It happens at all the age groups. There are those who will come on here and say maybe kid had a bad tryout or the other kid had the day of their life at a tryout. It happens but its impossible for it to happen as frequent as suggested by the players selected year in and year out. Its blatantly obvious that there are favors being done and its not about the best kids making the team.

Yes there are the scenarios of kids who were at the states and given the pass to next round and thats fine. They deserve that courtesy and as long as they are evaluated just like everyone else in the next round its all good. I think people have issue with coaches picking players solely based on team affiliation and not actual talent. Dont get me wrong the level of lacrosse will be good because we are on Long island there are also those players that make the team because its almost impossible not to pick them they are that good. These tryouts are a farce. The kids know and see what is going on but to those who do make it its is a great honor but there are those who are selected just on helmet and not talent. Lets try and bring in some real unbiased elevators to do the job and see how the teams play out next year. It wont happen but at least we can dream a bit.

Who will pay for the evaluators? Will this become a $500 event? Then it will be no more, how many kids will be priced out? Unfortunately this is not practical.

this crosses over to travel lacrosse and showcases. I know for a fact that certain kids have been selected to the all star games at showcases because college coaches go to the directors and tell them they want to see specific kids in the all star game. Last week we had it happen to our team where 3 kids were selected and maybe 1 deserved to be there and the rest didn't play well in the first 2 games before the all star game.

Its tough when you have no control and have to play nice or you become an outcast and a problem to teams who are working closely with college coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they should have the Suffolk coaches evaluate the Nassau kids and vice versa. Make it truly by the pinnie number, not the name or the helmet.

that would be a good first step but you will still have some potential conflicts of interest - a coach lives in one county and coaches in another would still "know" kids he is evaluating and you will still have a lot of club affiliations that cross over the counties boarders - but this would be a great first step

Pay to bring in coaches from outside the area that know none of the kids. Done

The coaches know who the top players are. The tryouts don't mean much towards making the team. Helps to have your varsity coach advocating for you when they sit down to pick the team over a few beers. That being said, there are a lot of college coaches at the first round and a kid who is an unknown and makes a really good showing can get some interest from schools.

At the NLF event this weekend I noticed something. Why do most other programs from outsise of Long Island do well at the older levels. Our teams who historically have been dominate seem to always fall off as they get into 10th and 11th. There is one team ninety 1 that did extremely well for years and only won 1 game. They had their players there from what I could tell. Do Long Island players just stop playing together once they are committed. Most other programs continue to play together and do well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At the NLF event this weekend I noticed something. Why do most other programs from outsise of Long Island do well at the older levels. Our teams who historically have been dominate seem to always fall off as they get into 10th and 11th. There is one team ninety 1 that did extremely well for years and only won 1 game. They had their players there from what I could tell. Do Long Island players just stop playing together once they are committed. Most other programs continue to play together and do well.

Ahh...Duh.... HOLDBACKS!! LI does not do that nearly as much.

Why do all the Top 20 Teams have 25-30 players on it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At the NLF event this weekend I noticed something. Why do most other programs from outsise of Long Island do well at the older levels. Our teams who historically have been dominate seem to always fall off as they get into 10th and 11th. There is one team ninety 1 that did extremely well for years and only won 1 game. They had their players there from what I could tell. Do Long Island players just stop playing together once they are committed. Most other programs continue to play together and do well.

i think you have a variety of reasons - many out of town schools are over while long island kids have finals and more important playoff games going on, maybe little to know practices so far. Also LI kids in a lot of cases have options to play summer ball with their HS team and once committed, why pay all this money to go to recruiting events you no longer need.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At the NLF event this weekend I noticed something. Why do most other programs from outsise of Long Island do well at the older levels. Our teams who historically have been dominate seem to always fall off as they get into 10th and 11th. There is one team ninety 1 that did extremely well for years and only won 1 game. They had their players there from what I could tell. Do Long Island players just stop playing together once they are committed. Most other programs continue to play together and do well.

i think you have a variety of reasons - many out of town schools are over while long island kids have finals and more important playoff games going on, maybe little to know practices so far. Also LI kids in a lot of cases have options to play summer ball with their HS team and once committed, why pay all this money to go to recruiting events you no longer need.

The out of town teams are loaded with commits and it was not just at NLF it happens at a lot of tournaments. With the expressive team and the nine t one team. All these other teams beating them when at one time they barely lost. These teams cost the same and parents spend the same. It also happens at many other events. LI Teams do great for 9th grade and then start to fall apart in 10th and 11th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At the NLF event this weekend I noticed something. Why do most other programs from outsise of Long Island do well at the older levels. Our teams who historically have been dominate seem to always fall off as they get into 10th and 11th. There is one team ninety 1 that did extremely well for years and only won 1 game. They had their players there from what I could tell. Do Long Island players just stop playing together once they are committed. Most other programs continue to play together and do well.

i think you have a variety of reasons - many out of town schools are over while long island kids have finals and more important playoff games going on, maybe little to know practices so far. Also LI kids in a lot of cases have options to play summer ball with their HS team and once committed, why pay all this money to go to recruiting events you no longer need.

The out of town teams are loaded with commits and it was not just at NLF it happens at a lot of tournaments. With the expressive team and the nine t one team. All these other teams beating them when at one time they barely lost. These teams cost the same and parents spend the same. It also happens at many other events. LI Teams do great for 9th grade and then start to fall apart in 10th and 11th

Many commits on the LI teams do not play travel anymore. Particularly if they've committed in 9th or 10th grade. They play with their HS teams. They'll do 2 or 3 local tourns and that's it. I suspect with the new recruiting rules that will move things up quite a bit. As the earliest anyone will be able to commit is September of Jr year, the LI teams will stay together at least until summer between 10th and 11th. Most likely through the next summer as well, as the recruiting process is now elongated. Surely, many schools will not finish their recruiting classes until the following summer, requiring another year of travel. Guess who made out in this deal?

Its very simple, the older LI teams don't practice, my sons team was a perfect example, they won a lot at the younger levels, then around HS it gets very busy for these boys, finals, working, etc. and the team barely practices. Last year Leading Edge crushed it, they won everything, we played them several times, lost some close games, at the NLF we were missing several boys who were still playing in the state championships, lost in OT to them, talking to several of the Edge parents they said they practice 2 times every week, Its that simple, practice makes perfect.

Also forgetting one other major issue called burnout
Kids start travel and year round lax way to early
Our hs program starts in September and the clubs try to get our money year round. Once the kids get a little independence in hs most lose interest.

you lose your two best players by far, 23 and 3, weren't for them, we would have beat you by 5 or 6, nevermind they do everything for your team, offensively and defensively, cant wait to smack your asses around next year. That is what you call fun!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Wouldn't be a scam if your kid was on it though right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do all the Top 20 Teams have 25-30 players on it?

As the season progresses, many of the parents get fed up with their child standing around and opt to leave. Figure if 5-7 players opt to leave, the club already has their money and now the team is at the roster size of the rest. These clubs aren't stupid, there is a reason when traveling, they fly first class while you sit in the cheap seats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Until a SA signs a NLI, a commitment is just a non-binding promise for both sides. While they are honored way more than not, as a SA, I don't think it should be considered the "end all" for younger commits. With the rule change, that obviously won't be an issue going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you lose your two best players by far, 23 and 3, weren't for them, we would have beat you by 5 or 6, nevermind they do everything for your team, offensively and defensively, cant wait to smack your asses around next year. That is what you call fun!!!

more details, sounds interesting, what school are you talking about? who is your school? what school do you play for?

EI post saying they are 9,10,11 graders this year and next year they will rock with all D! players, without 23 and 3, they are nothing, we(SWR) would have beat them by 5 or 6 goals, very overrated, as I am sure several other teams would have beat them too without those two guys who did everything for them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

EI post saying they are 9,10,11 graders this year and next year they will rock with all D! players, without 23 and 3, they are nothing, we(SWR) would have beat them by 5 or 6 goals, very overrated, as I am sure several other teams would have beat them too without those two guys who did everything for them...

Will 23 and 3 be back next year for Ei? I know they have some really talented young guys there, and if 23 and 3 was one of them I dont understand your point. If 23 and 3 werent then you dont know EI as well as you think. And not sure why SWR is spoutting off. I think Islip also has a good shot at SWR next year along with ESM and Comsewogue. and why pickon Ei they are not in SWr conference.

this is confusing

SWR loses their 2 best I have no idea why this [lacrosse] is picking on EI
Their Defense and Goalie are back as well as top Attack

SWR loses their whole team with those two players

and they are in B not C Division go pick on Islip who return everybody and will spank SWR

So....Who gets the Ennis Award for top player in Suffolk County? Smithtown East got it two years in a row, will it be three?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.[/quote]

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!
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Every event does not have to be about recruiting but this event is specifically for recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

The coach sucks. He has talented players so team does well despite him being such a bad coach. I am not saying be has the best players but more than a handfull of very good and good players. They will never beat teams that are as talented or even closely talented to them because he horrible.

Sounds like your talking about Connetquot !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

My committed son won't try out. It's a waste of time. He is playing in plenty of high quality recruiting tournaments this summer which is enough. UA is a big political money grab, unless you are uncommitted and looking to get exposure, or are a senior picked to play in the showcase.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My committed son won't try out. It's a waste of time. He is playing in plenty of high quality recruiting tournaments this summer which is enough. UA is a big political money grab, unless you are uncommitted and looking to get exposure, or are a senior picked to play in the showcase.

You and your committed son will be missed, good luck in all those high quality recruiting tournaments hope he gets that upgrade he/you are looking for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol

The same thing happens in other regions for UA. Look at coaches and look at roster. South Region over half the players are in one way or another affiliated with coaches ( HS or Club) , not that they arent good players. Just that there are just as good if not better players who did better at tryout games.. Teams are predetermined with a few openings. Most of the time you are trying out for 5-8 openings in my opinion. The rest is picked ahead of time.
One team had no face off guy while others had two or three? The attack with no faceoff guy had limited action every game. Of course D, Defensive minded Middies and Goalie got lots of action. When UA sees a glaring mistake on a team, why dont rectify it??

On the flip side, some committed kids played and did NOT get picked because the coaches that committed them early got it wrong and they fell for the video highlight tape smoke and mirrors or they happened to only see the kids on their one best day ever. (th grade commitments were a total crapshoot with rare exception. Now that's done. See you all jr. year.

Can someone tell this group who to send the checks to at New12Varsity in order to get their son on the All LI Boys Lacrosse Team, Second Team or honorable mention?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol

The same thing happens in other regions for UA. Look at coaches and look at roster. South Region over half the players are in one way or another affiliated with coaches ( HS or Club) , not that they arent good players. Just that there are just as good if not better players who did better at tryout games.. Teams are predetermined with a few openings. Most of the time you are trying out for 5-8 openings in my opinion. The rest is picked ahead of time.
One team had no face off guy while others had two or three? The attack with no faceoff guy had limited action every game. Of course D, Defensive minded Middies and Goalie got lots of action. When UA sees a glaring mistake on a team, why dont rectify it??

The timing of the event needs to be changed. This year and last during Nassau and Suffolk high school awards dinner.

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This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol[/quote]

The same thing happens in other regions for UA. Look at coaches and look at roster. South Region over half the players are in one way or another affiliated with coaches ( HS or Club) , not that they arent good players. Just that there are just as good if not better players who did better at tryout games.. Teams are predetermined with a few openings. Most of the time you are trying out for 5-8 openings in my opinion. The rest is picked ahead of time.
One team had no face off guy while others had two or three? The attack with no faceoff guy had limited action every game. Of course D, Defensive minded Middies and Goalie got lots of action. When UA sees a glaring mistake on a team, why dont rectify it??
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The timing of the event needs to be changed. This year and last during Nassau and Suffolk high school awards dinner. [/quote]

If you are on the dais, go to the dinner and you can still make the team. If you are sitting at a table, skip the dinner and go to the tryout. Pretty simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol[/quote]

The same thing happens in other regions for UA. Look at coaches and look at roster. South Region over half the players are in one way or another affiliated with coaches ( HS or Club) , not that they arent good players. Just that there are just as good if not better players who did better at tryout games.. Teams are predetermined with a few openings. Most of the time you are trying out for 5-8 openings in my opinion. The rest is picked ahead of time.
One team had no face off guy while others had two or three? The attack with no faceoff guy had limited action every game. Of course D, Defensive minded Middies and Goalie got lots of action. When UA sees a glaring mistake on a team, why dont rectify it??
[/quote]

The timing of the event needs to be changed. This year and last during Nassau and Suffolk high school awards dinner. [/quote]

If you are on the dais, go to the dinner and you can still make the team. If you are sitting at a table, skip the dinner and go to the tryout. Pretty simple.
[/quote]

Because they already have your money, it's done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone tell this group who to send the checks to at New12Varsity in order to get their son on the All LI Boys Lacrosse Team, Second Team or honorable mention?

We sent it directly to Ty Xanders and it worked

Jealous loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My committed son won't try out. It's a waste of time. He is playing in plenty of high quality recruiting tournaments this summer which is enough. UA is a big political money grab, unless you are uncommitted and looking to get exposure, or are a senior picked to play in the showcase.

You and your committed son will be missed, good luck in all those high quality recruiting tournaments hope he gets that upgrade he/you are looking for

Thanks for your concern, my son couldn't do any better than he has, top school, plenty of $. Time to take a step back and enjoy playing the game. You can keep writing your checks if it makes you happy, tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol

I disagree, UA and The nassau /suffolk game are very different. for the N/S game each HS coach can go and advocate for their player and if the kid plays real well he will be chosen. If your coach doesn't show, you definitely have less of a chance of making it. For UA it is the same guys picking every year with no input from outside coaches. If they don't know who you are going into it , u have no chance.

My son, my son, my son, his team, his team, his team, my son, my son, my son...

What about your? What have you done? Congrats to your son. He would be embarrassed by your chest thumping and bragging on him. Act like you've been there. Oh yeah, you probably haven't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total scam. After first tryouts numbers were posted. After last tryout there were 9 numbers that were selected that weren't on first cut list. How come they allow kids to not show up to first tryouts get the nod for top 20. Yes some where in playoffs but that shouldn't matter. Team was pretty much selected before tryouts even started.

Scam because some of the better players were not selected or because certain players already knew that they would play in the nassau/suffolk game. who really cares, if you select a player who is already committed to play this game, what will the college coaches attending have to look at. This is a recruiting event after all. This event will come into play more for the coming years since the change in NCAA rules.

Why does every event have to be about recruiting? These kids should want to play in this game for pride and competition. They need to understand why sports are great! all these showcases, recruiting tournaments etc.. where the kids main goal is to impress a coach, really takes away from why they should be playing! That's why it is such ugly lacrosse at a lot of these events. Let these kids play with the sole purpose of being part of something they can look back on and be proud of! The fact that some kids don't want to play in a Nassau / Suffolk All Star game because they are committed already says a lot the state of youth/young adult sports! A lot of the passion to win and compete has been taken away! it is sad!

If you had a committed kid, you might understand why they don't want to tryout. Because its all rigged. Why go out and score 5 goals and get over looked. Some kid whose not even as good gets pushed through. The kids all know. Same $hit with Brine and UA, all predetermined for the most part. Will some make it through? Very few.

This is so very true for Nassau/Suffolk game and UA tryout. Watched my kid play in his 3 UA games tonight 27 min each. In that time there were a few kids that just stood out. So of the 3 teams his team played I would say 6 or 7 studs. Most were midfield players. They got the most runs and opportunities. I really felt bad for our defense and goalies because our face off guy was really good and barely lost a draw. Play was in the offensive zone most of the games. There were some players who I saw play that did absolutely nothing in their games. I know them well and they have been committed for a while that will 100% get picked. Yet in the time I watched them play they did nothing better or worse than any other good player on the field. It's a shame because there are some very talented players that performed just as good or better than a number of the kids that will be picked for the UA team. Its too bad that half the kids doing the evaluating were just [lacrosse] on the sidelines rather than watching the games. MC and Lynott were even better to watch. Lol

I disagree, UA and The nassau /suffolk game are very different. for the N/S game each HS coach can go and advocate for their player and if the kid plays real well he will be chosen. If your coach doesn't show, you definitely have less of a chance of making it. For UA it is the same guys picking every year with no input from outside coaches. If they don't know who you are going into it , u have no chance.

You disagree but in your rebuttal you just concurred with what I said. Club coaches for UA and high school coaches Nassau/Suffolk picking the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My committed son won't try out. It's a waste of time. He is playing in plenty of high quality recruiting tournaments this summer which is enough. UA is a big political money grab, unless you are uncommitted and looking to get exposure, or are a senior picked to play in the showcase.

You and your committed son will be missed, good luck in all those high quality recruiting tournaments hope he gets that upgrade he/you are looking for

Thanks for your concern, my son couldn't do any better than he has, top school, plenty of $. Time to take a step back and enjoy playing the game. You can keep writing your checks if it makes you happy, tool

Then why keep going to recruiting events? Liar alert!

I disagree, UA and The nassau /suffolk game are very different. for the N/S game each HS coach can go and advocate for their player and if the kid plays real well he will be chosen. If your coach doesn't show, you definitely have less of a chance of making it. For UA it is the same guys picking every year with no input from outside coaches. If they don't know who you are going into it , u have no chance.[/quote]

You disagree but in your rebuttal you just concurred with what I said. Club coaches for UA and high school coaches Nassau/Suffolk picking the players.[/quote]

Exactly. Not a true representation of talent. The Brine tryouts had people from the organization picking talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok so the season is over. What do you do if your H.S. coach is just bad. Does nothing for player development. Does not do any summer tournaments. Does not have off season workout schedule or plan. Acts like a child on sideline. Does nothing to develop players during and out of season. Does not instill a sense of trust. Says one thing and does another. Despite all these short comings team still does well.

Look at the successful programs. They play together as much as they can. There is a seamless transition from JV to Varsity. Off season is just as important as in season. There is a sense of purpose a sense of pride in the program. The youth and middle school, are an extension of the high school program. The coaches, varsity and j.v. are involved in the team and it's play all season long. Alumni are very involved and even coach the program at all levels.

So is the program successfull or not? Not really sure I understand.

The coach sucks. He has talented players so team does well despite him being such a bad coach. I am not saying be has the best players but more than a handfull of very good and good players. They will never beat teams that are as talented or even closely talented to them because he horrible.

Sounds like your talking about Connetquot !!

Has to be!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My committed son won't try out. It's a waste of time. He is playing in plenty of high quality recruiting tournaments this summer which is enough. UA is a big political money grab, unless you are uncommitted and looking to get exposure, or are a senior picked to play in the showcase.

You and your committed son will be missed, good luck in all those high quality recruiting tournaments hope he gets that upgrade he/you are looking for

Thanks for your concern, my son couldn't do any better than he has, top school, plenty of $. Time to take a step back and enjoy playing the game. You can keep writing your checks if it makes you happy, tool

Then why keep going to recruiting events? Liar alert!

Duh??? He plays with an entire team, several of whom are still uncommitted also gives his coach a chance to see him. Any other questions pie face?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I disagree, UA and The nassau /suffolk game are very different. for the N/S game each HS coach can go and advocate for their player and if the kid plays real well he will be chosen. If your coach doesn't show, you definitely have less of a chance of making it. For UA it is the same guys picking every year with no input from outside coaches. If they don't know who you are going into it , u have no chance.

You disagree but in your rebuttal you just concurred with what I said. Club coaches for UA and high school coaches Nassau/Suffolk picking the players.[/quote]

Exactly. Not a true representation of talent. The Brine tryouts had people from the organization picking talent. [/quote] You do realize the Brine tryout is the most rigged of them all?

i have a question. why don't you let your committed kid have a little fun instead of traveling for over half of summer? did you even offer that option?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i have a question. why don't you let your committed kid have a little fun instead of traveling for over half of summer? did you even offer that option?

He's lying

Long Island Showcase 2017
Suffolk Rising Seniors 2018
76 Attack Lacalandra Richie (S) Comsewogue 77 Attack Wichelns George (S) Connetquot 78 Attack Atlas Jeffrey (S) Islip 79 Attack Seymour Anthony (S) Miller Place 80 Attack Pirreca Joe Mt. Sinia 81 Defense Gagnon Zachary (S) Comsewogue 82 Defense Caiazza Conor (S) Half Hollow Hills East 83 Defense LSM Rall Ethan (S) Islip 84 Defense Plunkett Jake (S) Kings Park 85 Defense LSM Grant Ronald (S) Lindenhurst 86 Defense LSM Hagenberger Michael (S) Mt. Sinai 87 Defense Valensky Schuyler (S) North Babylon 88 Defense Filippetti Anthony Miller Place 1 Goalie Palma Anthony (S) East Islip 2 Goalie OConnell James (S) Smithtown East 0 Midfield Abshire Bobby (S) Commack 89 Midfield Grippo GQ (S) Connetquot 90 Midfield Bienkowski Michael (S) Islip 91 Midfield Daniels Noah (S) Lindenhurst 92 Midfield Murphy Jake (S) Longwood 93 Midfield Ammirato Tyler (S) Miller Place 94 Midfield LSM Miele Estrella David (S) North Babylon 95 Midfield Barry Nick Islip 96 Midfield LaSalla Pete Mt. Sinia 3 Midfield Lyons James Sayville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i have a question. why don't you let your committed kid have a little fun instead of traveling for over half of summer? did you even offer that option?

Some kids love to travel and play the best competition during the summer. It can be a lot of fun playing with and against future teammates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Showcase 2017
Suffolk Rising Seniors 2018
76 Attack Lacalandra Richie (S) Comsewogue 77 Attack Wichelns George (S) Connetquot 78 Attack Atlas Jeffrey (S) Islip 79 Attack Seymour Anthony (S) Miller Place 80 Attack Pirreca Joe Mt. Sinia 81 Defense Gagnon Zachary (S) Comsewogue 82 Defense Caiazza Conor (S) Half Hollow Hills East 83 Defense LSM Rall Ethan (S) Islip 84 Defense Plunkett Jake (S) Kings Park 85 Defense LSM Grant Ronald (S) Lindenhurst 86 Defense LSM Hagenberger Michael (S) Mt. Sinai 87 Defense Valensky Schuyler (S) North Babylon 88 Defense Filippetti Anthony Miller Place 1 Goalie Palma Anthony (S) East Islip 2 Goalie OConnell James (S) Smithtown East 0 Midfield Abshire Bobby (S) Commack 89 Midfield Grippo GQ (S) Connetquot 90 Midfield Bienkowski Michael (S) Islip 91 Midfield Daniels Noah (S) Lindenhurst 92 Midfield Murphy Jake (S) Longwood 93 Midfield Ammirato Tyler (S) Miller Place 94 Midfield LSM Miele Estrella David (S) North Babylon 95 Midfield Barry Nick Islip 96 Midfield LaSalla Pete Mt. Sinia 3 Midfield Lyons James Sayville

Anybody have the Nassau roster?

Who can tryout for the Long Island Lacrosse Showcase?
Players from Long Island's Public High Schools are eligible to tryout. Rising Freshmen will resgister under the name of the high school they will be attending as a freshman. Click here to see the complete list of eligilbe Nassau & Suffolk County High School lacrosse programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Showcase 2017
Suffolk Rising Seniors 2018
76 Attack Lacalandra Richie (S) Comsewogue 77 Attack Wichelns George (S) Connetquot 78 Attack Atlas Jeffrey (S) Islip 79 Attack Seymour Anthony (S) Miller Place 80 Attack Pirreca Joe Mt. Sinia 81 Defense Gagnon Zachary (S) Comsewogue 82 Defense Caiazza Conor (S) Half Hollow Hills East 83 Defense LSM Rall Ethan (S) Islip 84 Defense Plunkett Jake (S) Kings Park 85 Defense LSM Grant Ronald (S) Lindenhurst 86 Defense LSM Hagenberger Michael (S) Mt. Sinai 87 Defense Valensky Schuyler (S) North Babylon 88 Defense Filippetti Anthony Miller Place 1 Goalie Palma Anthony (S) East Islip 2 Goalie OConnell James (S) Smithtown East 0 Midfield Abshire Bobby (S) Commack 89 Midfield Grippo GQ (S) Connetquot 90 Midfield Bienkowski Michael (S) Islip 91 Midfield Daniels Noah (S) Lindenhurst 92 Midfield Murphy Jake (S) Longwood 93 Midfield Ammirato Tyler (S) Miller Place 94 Midfield LSM Miele Estrella David (S) North Babylon 95 Midfield Barry Nick Islip 96 Midfield LaSalla Pete Mt. Sinia 3 Midfield Lyons James Sayville

Anybody have the Nassau roster?

Nassau Rising Senior Roster http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/24eb1f_156e90601d3a41aca755fa557eaa758a.pdf

76 Dylan Ferguson Attack (N) Baldwin 77 Timothy Ley Attack (N) Massapequa 78 Jack Kimmel Attack (N) South Side 0 Jack Pucci Attack (N) Syosset 79 kevin winkoff Attack (N) Cold Spring Harbor 80 Liam Muldoon Attack (N) Garden City 81 Tim Hegarty Defense (N) Farmingdale 82 LSM Kevin McCormick Defense (N) Farmingdale 83 Gregory Capelle Defense (N) Herricks 84 Griffin Hawthorne Defense (N) Massapequa 85 Jake Fitzgerald Defense (N) Mepham 18 LSM Max Verch Defense (N) Syosset 86 Matt Weigand Defense (N) Massapequa 87 LSM JT Roselle Defense (N) Cold Spring Harbor 88 brody agres Goalie (N) Farmingdale 89 Michael Venezia Goalie (N) Massapequa 90 FOGO Dylan Barry Midfield (N) Calhoun 91 Troy Morris Midfield (N) Long Beach 92 Logan Hyde Midfield (N) Manhasset 93 Kevin Lynskey Midfield (N) Massapequa 94 Jack Gibbons Midfield (N) Mepham 95 JOHN McMahon Midfield (N) Mineola 22 Stephen Conte Midfield (N) Syosset 96 Thomas Rohan Midfield (N) Wantagh 5 Ryan Lee Midfield (N) Massapequa 18 Teddy Bentley Midfield (N) Cold Spring Harbor

Who won't the showcase at Farmingdale?

[quote=Anonymous]Who won't the showcase at Farmingdale?

Nassau won all but 2020 where they were blown out at every position

Loser Suffolk 2018 rising seniors was won by SUFFOLK 9-6 over Nassau

Suffolk 2018 Rising Seniors was won By SUFFOLK 9-6 over NASSAU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who won't the showcase at Farmingdale?

Nassau won all but 2020 where they were blown out at every position

Ha! As many have said on here: FL$ tool bag coach picked the wrong kids. Catered to the Manhasset/CSH daddies and got embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who won't the showcase at Farmingdale?

Nassau won all but 2020 where they were blown out at every position

Suffolk won the rising seniors 9-6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Who won't the showcase at Farmingdale?

Nassau won all but 2020 where they were blown out at every position

Ha! As many have said on here: FL$ tool bag coach picked the wrong kids. Catered to the Manhasset/CSH daddies and got embarrassed.

That's unfortunate, could have been a great game if the best kids were picked at each position. Too many excellent players did not make the team that absolutely should have.

Parents line the pockets of the coaches who then pick their kids at these events. The club coaches also run showcases and make sure their own players always make the all star teams. How is a kid player of the game in every game he plays but then not make your all-star team? Answer: He plays for a competing club. The parents of the players getting preferential treatment think this all means their sons are destined for greatness. They strut around telling everyone who'll listen that their son was invited to this showcase, all star team or whatever. But then the kids get on the field and are exposed. How come the only all star teams they ever make are at events run by their own club? How come every "prestigious" team they make has their club coach as an evaluator or coach involved in picking the team? This is exactly what happened with the Nassau 2020 team. The only problem is Daddy can't buy you a win or make you more athletic. It is all "pay to play" now and really just a total joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents line the pockets of the coaches who then pick their kids at these events. The club coaches also run showcases and make sure their own players always make the all star teams. How is a kid player of the game in every game he plays but then not make your all-star team? Answer: He plays for a competing club. The parents of the players getting preferential treatment think this all means their sons are destined for greatness. They strut around telling everyone who'll listen that their son was invited to this showcase, all star team or whatever. But then the kids get on the field and are exposed. How come the only all star teams they ever make are at events run by their own club? How come every "prestigious" team they make has their club coach as an evaluator or coach involved in picking the team? This is exactly what happened with the Nassau 2020 team. The only problem is Daddy can't buy you a win or make you more athletic. It is all "pay to play" now and really just a total joke.

Nonsense, the teams are based off of the try out, has nothing to do with the season.

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents line the pockets of the coaches who then pick their kids at these events. The club coaches also run showcases and make sure their own players always make the all star teams. How is a kid player of the game in every game he plays but then not make your all-star team? Answer: He plays for a competing club. The parents of the players getting preferential treatment think this all means their sons are destined for greatness. They strut around telling everyone who'll listen that their son was invited to this showcase, all star team or whatever. But then the kids get on the field and are exposed. How come the only all star teams they ever make are at events run by their own club? How come every "prestigious" team they make has their club coach as an evaluator or coach involved in picking the team? This is exactly what happened with the Nassau 2020 team. The only problem is Daddy can't buy you a win or make you more athletic. It is all "pay to play" now and really just a total joke.

Nonsense, the teams are based off of the try out, has nothing to do with the season.

LOL!!! your joking right. There were players that were selected to certain positions solely based on the name on the front of the jersey not on the back. Please dont assume people are naive. People are 100% keen to the fact that these events are mostly rigged by those evaluating the event. Most of the time its the coaches of certain programs that push their players through to the final team.

East Islip Lacrosse is back. Watch out. Fr58Cx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents line the pockets of the coaches who then pick their kids at these events. The club coaches also run showcases and make sure their own players always make the all star teams. How is a kid player of the game in every game he plays but then not make your all-star team? Answer: He plays for a competing club. The parents of the players getting preferential treatment think this all means their sons are destined for greatness. They strut around telling everyone who'll listen that their son was invited to this showcase, all star team or whatever. But then the kids get on the field and are exposed. How come the only all star teams they ever make are at events run by their own club? How come every "prestigious" team they make has their club coach as an evaluator or coach involved in picking the team? This is exactly what happened with the Nassau 2020 team. The only problem is Daddy can't buy you a win or make you more athletic. It is all "pay to play" now and really just a total joke.

Nonsense, the teams are based off of the try out, has nothing to do with the season.

LOL!!! your joking right. There were players that were selected to certain positions solely based on the name on the front of the jersey not on the back. Please dont assume people are naive. People are 100% keen to the fact that these events are mostly rigged by those evaluating the event. Most of the time its the coaches of certain programs that push their players through to the final team.

LOL, no your kid sucks, too bad! Hahahaha

Under Armour Team : 90% Express kids. Total BS. This is achanny's way of "trying" to show college coaches that his travel organization has the best kids. So not true. He is such a tool.

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

UA Command team has 8 kids from Team 91, 7 from Express, 4 from Legacy and 3 from other clubs/teams...

where are the All County players listed? thx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

East was average, Northport not good and Commac has no depth. West looked very good. Ward Melville may repeat as LIC if they go injury free. West fogo isbreally good and goalie too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

Too early to tell.

TR Leaving HHHW to Coach St Dominics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Nassau County Coaches Association web site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

You don't say, now tell me which tournaments DONT pay the coaches to attend? Idiot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

Every showcase/tournament with a college coach present lines their pockets. This one is no different from any others. As a matter of fact those "prospect days" every college runs are for profit as well. So tell me where are all the free recruiting events? High School team! So if your kid plays on a lousy team you better put a for sale sign on the front yard and move to a lacrosse powerhouse. Otherwise your forking over quite a bit of green to get looked at by college coaches.

The only good thing about Northport is there returning goalie who kept them in most games all season and got them to the playoffs. They played hurt most of the season losing 3 starting defenders, only 1 returning. But they graduated two D1 fogos and have no one to take their place and primarily an underclassman offense. To sum it up, they will likely not be very good next year and it will show as always, your defense can only do so much to keep you in and win games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Ward Melville? Yes, I get it ... but West Islip? Why would you think WI would be in the mix? It has been a long time since they have been a top team.

sounds like goalies DAD what a loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Ward Melville? Yes, I get it ... but West Islip? Why would you think WI would be in the mix? It has been a long time since they have been a top team.

"Quot? Aint squat!

Landon is #1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Ward Melville? Yes, I get it ... but West Islip? Why would you think WI would be in the mix? It has been a long time since they have been a top team.

Smithtown West

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

You don't say, now tell me which tournaments DONT pay the coaches to attend? Idiot

So are you calling someone an idiot for stating a fact or is Idiot your name?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

You don't say, now tell me which tournaments DONT pay the coaches to attend? Idiot

So are you calling someone an idiot for stating a fact or is Idiot your name?

yes Idiot is my name, I'm also known as your wife's boyfriend, and your son's biological dad. Idiot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the college coaches know its a joke and purely political and that is why they attend the first 2 tryouts to see all the kids not just the finial 20. its a shame that the pompus HS coaches think its about them when it should be about the kids. too many kids from suffolk and nassau didnt get a fair chance. they played well but for one reason or another they get cut. dont put too much weight in making the final 20. tell the kids to go and play their hearts out and it will be noticed. the high school coaches have complete control and they are not interested in doing the right thing., Just promote the kids who pay to play in their travel program. my kid made the team so dont think Im disgruntled... just stating the obvious.

So obviously your kid did not make it. The Nassau Suffolk game had about 60 coaches attending including the HC from duke and Hofstra. Get over it green eyes guy.

And those college coaches get paid by the tournament organizers to attend.

You don't say, now tell me which tournaments DONT pay the coaches to attend? Idiot

So are you calling someone an idiot for stating a fact or is Idiot your name?

yes Idiot is my name, I'm also known as your wife's boyfriend, and your son's biological dad. Idiot

jokes on you, Idiot, my wife is ugly and my kid sucks at lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Ward Melville? Yes, I get it ... but West Islip? Why would you think WI would be in the mix? It has been a long time since they have been a top team.

Smithtown West

Yes, Smithtown West and Ward Melville are the Top Two. Both return a lot of players who saw significant playing time.

Suffolk AA's
Chris Gray Attack SWR
Sean Lulley Attack HHHE
Connor DeSimone Attack Smithtown E
Joe Bartolotto LSM Miller Place
Andrew McKenna Defense Ward Melville
Dominic Pryor Midfield Ward Melville
Peter LaSalla Midfield Rocky Point
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan Defense Mt. Sinai

I know the wife is ugly, that's why I only see her on Tuesday while you are at work, I would never be seen in public with her, she's a moped. But you did marry her. You also taught the kid how to play lacrosse, that's why he sucks, that's also why he didn't make any of the rising teams! See ya, Idiot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know the wife is ugly, that's why I only see her on Tuesday while you are at work, I would never be seen in public with her, she's a moped. But you did marry her. You also taught the kid how to play lacrosse, that's why he sucks, that's also why he didn't make any of the rising teams! See ya, Idiot

The two of you are bringing down the quality of this prestigious forum!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know the wife is ugly, that's why I only see her on Tuesday while you are at work, I would never be seen in public with her, she's a moped. But you did marry her. You also taught the kid how to play lacrosse, that's why he sucks, that's also why he didn't make any of the rising teams! See ya, Idiot

Seriously? This is close to new low, even on BOTC. And the jokes are like out of an old bad joke book. You two both need to go get a life . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know the wife is ugly, that's why I only see her on Tuesday while you are at work, I would never be seen in public with her, she's a moped. But you did marry her. You also taught the kid how to play lacrosse, that's why he sucks, that's also why he didn't make any of the rising teams! See ya, Idiot

Seriously? This is close to new low, even on BOTC. And the jokes are like out of an old bad joke book. You two both need to go get a life . . .

No tight [lacrosse] not seriously! Lighten up

actually, sounds like an honest opinion. But as another poster stated recently, this forum used to provide some valid information and more so, everyone didn't hide behind an Anonymous tag as we all seem to be doing these days. We are no better than the children posting hate mail on other sites and bullying. Although I do anticipate and expect to get royally ripped now as well. Remember, it is all about the kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

actually, sounds like an honest opinion. But as another poster stated recently, this forum used to provide some valid information and more so, everyone didn't hide behind an Anonymous tag as we all seem to be doing these days. We are no better than the children posting hate mail on other sites and bullying. Although I do anticipate and expect to get royally ripped now as well. Remember, it is all about the kids

when there are actual posts about lacrosse they either get ripped apart or ignored. lots of talk about how teams are selected but little talk about the games. almost know talk about WM and CSH and their great wins as NYS champs but plenty of talk about why team X will suck next year. And heaven forbid you give a serious analysis of a team you will get a "thanks goalie dad" reply. so really why bother

Originally Posted by Anonymous

actually, sounds like an honest opinion. But as another poster stated recently, this forum used to provide some valid information and more so, everyone didn't hide behind an Anonymous tag as we all seem to be doing these days. We are no better than the children posting hate mail on other sites and bullying. Although I do anticipate and expect to get royally ripped now as well. Remember, it is all about the kids

when there are actual posts about lacrosse they either get ripped apart or ignored. lots of talk about how teams are selected but little talk about the games. almost know talk about WM and CSH and their great wins as NYS champs but plenty of talk about why team X will suck next year. And heaven forbid you give a serious analysis of a team you will get a "thanks goalie dad" reply. so really why bother

Well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

actually, sounds like an honest opinion. But as another poster stated recently, this forum used to provide some valid information and more so, everyone didn't hide behind an Anonymous tag as we all seem to be doing these days. We are no better than the children posting hate mail on other sites and bullying. Although I do anticipate and expect to get royally ripped now as well. Remember, it is all about the kids

when there are actual posts about lacrosse they either get ripped apart or ignored. lots of talk about how teams are selected but little talk about the games. almost know talk about WM and CSH and their great wins as NYS champs but plenty of talk about why team X will suck next year. And heaven forbid you give a serious analysis of a team you will get a "thanks goalie dad" reply. so really why bother

Well said

Thanks Goalie Dad!

Well I think if the moderators did a better job at deleting these types of posts I think it would curtail it. Just seems like you can say anything about anyone on here and no one cares. Wish we could just get back to Lacrosse. And that is for all of the topics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2018 Suffolk "A"

Ward Melville and Smithtown West will be tough, the edge goes to Ward Melville but West will be right there.

Who else ?

Commack?
Connetquot?
Northport?
Smithtown East?

Will there be a surprise team?

It will come down to the better coached teams.
You have to put WM and West at the top followed by Conn.

Ward Melville? Yes, I get it ... but West Islip? Why would you think WI would be in the mix? It has been a long time since they have been a top team.

Smithtown West

West Islip says.... I'LL BE BACK !!!!

Having everyone register would would eliminate the nonsense on here dramatically. It's a shame that no one would post. This is Long Island and the hotbed of lacrosse and we can't even get a forum going that isn't filled with constant crap. You congratulate a player, you get destroyed. You have an opinion, you get destroyed. You provide facts and a well thought out post, you get destroyed. There is no winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having everyone register would would eliminate the nonsense on here dramatically. It's a shame that no one would post. This is Long Island and the hotbed of lacrosse and we can't even get a forum going that isn't filled with constant crap. You congratulate a player, you get destroyed. You have an opinion, you get destroyed. You provide facts and a well thought out post, you get destroyed. There is no winning.

I second the motion, only registered participants can post.

I agree!!!

That is the way it used to be a few years back. You had to register and anonymous I believe could post replies but they were limited. I believe ownership changed hands in recent years so perhaps that is the reason for the change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is the way it used to be a few years back. You had to register and anonymous I believe could post replies but they were limited. I believe ownership changed hands in recent years so perhaps that is the reason for the change.

been on here 6+ years maybe dont think I ever had to register. I did but never used my registered name always posted under Anonymous

He is right. Back in the day, you had to be a registered poster, with some type of user name to start a thread. But anyone could reply, meaning anonymous. Also, no way some of the nasty bullying that is going was cleared and tolerated. Everything was really reviewed before it went up.

I think LM did a good job. Its funny that people blame the moderators for what people say. Its a sign of the times, people have a horrible moral compass. Its always someone else's fault never the ones who actually write the attacks or criticisms.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like goalies DAD what a loser

and you sound like either the backup or the backup's DAD! The petty bs on here never ends does it. Honest opinions and analysis and there is always an ulterior motive and it must be someone's parent. Maybe it was just the truth.

How about the hose job on the 2019 Bluefish at crab feast today? Game was 7-5 but the geniuses posted a 12-0 score affecting the seeding in both playoff brackets...

What a bunch of jerkoffs.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the hose job on the 2019 Bluefish at crab feast today? Game was 7-5 but the geniuses posted a 12-0 score affecting the seeding in both playoff brackets...

What a bunch of jerkoffs.......

If this is true, why didn't you or the coach bring it to the attention of the geniuses?

Agreed. Why have the site anonymous? Register and post with your email exposed and it will clean it up tremendously and become more useful as opposed to just entertaining.

...And imagine if that became retroactive and all prior posts then had an email attached to them...hahahahahah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Why have the site anonymous? Register and post with your email exposed and it will clean it up tremendously and become more useful as opposed to just entertaining.

...And imagine if that became retroactive and all prior posts then had an email attached to them...hahahahahah

They tried it recently, there were very few posts, literally like 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Why have the site anonymous? Register and post with your email exposed and it will clean it up tremendously and become more useful as opposed to just entertaining.

...And imagine if that became retroactive and all prior posts then had an email attached to them...hahahahahah

post of the year, retroactive un-anonymous posts.......boy would I be in big trouble. In case this is a possibility I would like to apologize to my many friends in Massapequa., CSH, Syosset, Manhasset, WI, WM, SE,SW,SN,SE and all the other letters in Suffolk. I intentionally left out apologizing to GC, their houses really are close together and they can smell their neighbors grilling.

enjoy the summer all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the hose job on the 2019 Bluefish at crab feast today? Game was 7-5 but the geniuses posted a 12-0 score affecting the seeding in both playoff brackets...

What a bunch of jerkoffs.......

Please explain, Crabs were the 8 seed and played Express the 1 seed, how did they hose the bluefish. Game shows up as 7-5 on the tourney machine site as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Why have the site anonymous? Register and post with your email exposed and it will clean it up tremendously and become more useful as opposed to just entertaining.

...And imagine if that became retroactive and all prior posts then had an email attached to them...hahahahahah

post of the year, retroactive un-anonymous posts.......boy would I be in big trouble. In case this is a possibility I would like to apologize to my many friends in Massapequa., CSH, Syosset, Manhasset, WI, WM, SE,SW,SN,SE and all the other letters in Suffolk. I intentionally left out apologizing to GC, their houses really are close together and they can smell their neighbors grilling.

enjoy the summer all

Post......of......the......YEAR!

All true. Some nice cuts on those grills and never the odor of hot dogs...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Why have the site anonymous? Register and post with your email exposed and it will clean it up tremendously and become more useful as opposed to just entertaining.

...And imagine if that became retroactive and all prior posts then had an email attached to them...hahahahahah

post of the year, retroactive un-anonymous posts.......boy would I be in big trouble. In case this is a possibility I would like to apologize to my many friends in Massapequa., CSH, Syosset, Manhasset, WI, WM, SE,SW,SN,SE and all the other letters in Suffolk. I intentionally left out apologizing to GC, their houses really are close together and they can smell their neighbors grilling.

enjoy the summer all

Post......of......the......YEAR!

So.....CSH comes in way above WM in the final IL power rankings. Guess that settles it. Good luck everyone in college! #reallichamps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So.....CSH comes in way above WM in the final IL power rankings. Guess that settles it. Good luck everyone in college! #reallichamps

Well, Ward Melville lost to a not-too-good Chaminade team. They also lost to a team from Massachusetts.

CSH didn't lose to anyone.

And who did CSH play?

Back to your farms Setauket people. Its over. State your case to the cows...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And who did CSH play?

Smithtown East, Syosset, New Canaan, Greenwich, SWR, JD

They fixed it very quickly...about 2 hours later mistakes happen...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the hose job on the 2019 Bluefish at crab feast today? Game was 7-5 but the geniuses posted a 12-0 score affecting the seeding in both playoff brackets...

What a bunch of jerkoffs.......

If this is true, why didn't you or the coach bring it to the attention of the geniuses?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They fixed it very quickly...about 2 hours later mistakes happen...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the hose job on the 2019 Bluefish at crab feast today? Game was 7-5 but the geniuses posted a 12-0 score affecting the seeding in both playoff brackets...

What a bunch of jerkoffs.......

If this is true, why didn't you or the coach bring it to the attention of the geniuses?

Any reason this is under the HS lax forum? Really could care less about Bluefish and the Crab Feast. There is a 2019 thread

CSH is the best team on LI according to ALL the polls. Sorry WM, you can put cotton balls in your ears and pretend it's not true. I know the truth hurts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH is the best team on LI according to ALL the polls. Sorry WM, you can put cotton balls in your ears and pretend it's not true. I know the truth hurts.

Did anyone ever claim this here?

The whole "WM is the best team on the Island" claim was over when they lost to Chaminade. And Chaminade had a pretty "meh" year.

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

I'm not sure I get all this putting teams down nonsense. First Chaminade had a "meh" year, WM is just okay, CSH, well who did they beat? Come on, these are quality teams. Chaminade was great. WM had an awesome season, and CSH is just a great program. Long Island has fantastic lacrosse. Many of our 3rd place teams would give some programs off the island a run. So lets stop knocking every schools accomplishments. Great year for LI lacrosse all around.

Only their freshmen teams played this season and Darien won 5-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Today at the finals of the Nat 175 tournament GC played the LI Jesters 2018. Unfortunately one of our Jester players was injured and broke his wrist . I would like to Thank the GC parents their Coaching staff and players for being a class act.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Wow!
Given the chance to answer a decent question and offer a thoughtful response/ informed opinion you two just couldn't help but put on your captain-douchebaggg costume.

Not even good enough to suggest a better matchup for consideration.... unless you two would like to see Roslyn vs Carey.

Just keep it simple... I would have liked to see GC vs Cham.
Both played St iggy. And Manhasset 34ydue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Wow!
Given the chance to answer a decent question and offer a thoughtful response/ informed opinion you two just couldn't help but put on your captain-douchebaggg costume.

Not even good enough to suggest a better matchup for consideration.... unless you two would like to see Roslyn vs Carey.

Just keep it simple... I would have liked to see GC vs Cham.
Both played St iggy. And Manhasset 34ydue

Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies.

Another rough showing for the Long Island Highlight team. The all mighty hand picked team fails to make it past the quarter finals at Under Armour.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another rough showing for the Long Island Highlight team. The all mighty hand picked team fails to make it past the quarter finals at Under Armour.

I guess the selection process is a bit flawed. Since Long Island is the greatest lacrosse community in the nation you would think that Long island would always win this event. Goes to show you when selections are made by coaches who have only the self promotion of their club teams and also catholic school in mind things dont go so well. The results have spoken for themselves over the past few years Long Island. Lets change the people making the selections, change those who feel its more important to pick players based upon what club team they play for or what catholic school. If the team was picked based solely on the tryout by an unbiased evaluation committee a lot of players would not be on the team. Some players selected only showed up to one day. It also should be moved to after the All County dinner so there will be no excuse why a player was not there. So people know there is also the phone call that goes out before the actual tryout letting a select few know they are on the team. Its is 100% true and if you deny it you must be one of those who received that call. Things need to change with this event. Its a money grab if its not done with 100% unbiased people making the selection. I know many do it knowing their kid wont be selected but they want to see how their kid does against the best competition.

The young Baltimore team does well again and the older team flames out again. The holdbacks look good until everyone on the field has hit puberty.

Both Baltimore teams needed more Calvert Hall players. Calvert Hall's Varsity and JV were the best teams in the MIAA. Why not load the teams with those players if it is about the best players in Baltimore?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Baltimore teams needed more Calvert Hall players. Calvert Hall's Varsity and JV were the best teams in the MIAA. Why not load the teams with those players if it is about the best players in Baltimore?

Because your on a great team doesn't mean you are the best player. So much more goes into being a great team. Great coaches that work with the kids they have and create a system that fits their talent. Having the kids practice hard and full speed all the time. There is so much more but these are just some of the key components.

Both Baltimore teams need more CH player? Are you joking - 25% percent of the Baltimore rosters were from CH. Daddy ball at its finest resulted in both teams losing. Hey - at least 3/4 of the Command team is able to drive themselves home. Very convenient for the parents.

So who blew for LI again the "talent " or the "coach". LI is starting to be the bad news bears of UA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another rough showing for the Long Island Highlight team. The all mighty hand picked team fails to make it past the quarter finals at Under Armour.

I guess the selection process is a bit flawed. Since Long Island is the greatest lacrosse community in the nation you would think that Long island would always win this event. Goes to show you when selections are made by coaches who have only the self promotion of their club teams and also catholic school in mind things dont go so well. The results have spoken for themselves over the past few years Long Island. Lets change the people making the selections, change those who feel its more important to pick players based upon what club team they play for or what catholic school. If the team was picked based solely on the tryout by an unbiased evaluation committee a lot of players would not be on the team. Some players selected only showed up to one day. It also should be moved to after the All County dinner so there will be no excuse why a player was not there. So people know there is also the phone call that goes out before the actual tryout letting a select few know they are on the team. Its is 100% true and if you deny it you must be one of those who received that call. Things need to change with this event. Its a money grab if its not done with 100% unbiased people making the selection. I know many do it knowing their kid wont be selected but they want to see how their kid does against the best competition.

quite humorous. the only time i can remember that there really was a true best of LI lacrosse selection was for the 2018 Freshman Brine Nationals, no BS, just solid tryouts of the best (at that point in time) selection of players who went on to show their dominance. LI is notorious for putting a group of mediocre players and claim they are the best, many of the players may be very good but put all together, the teams are ok but does not represent the best. hopefully this will change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Baltimore teams needed more Calvert Hall players. Calvert Hall's Varsity and JV were the best teams in the MIAA. Why not load the teams with those players if it is about the best players in Baltimore?

That's a funny comment given it was the BL attackman that kept the command game from getting out of hand....

Oddly enough every post in here where the High school team loses is blamed on the coaches. Now, since your kid didn't make the team it's the player. Which is it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Wow!
Given the chance to answer a decent question and offer a thoughtful response/ informed opinion you two just couldn't help but put on your captain-douchebaggg costume.

Not even good enough to suggest a better matchup for consideration.... unless you two would like to see Roslyn vs Carey.

Just keep it simple... I would have liked to see GC vs Cham.
Both played St iggy. And Manhasset 34ydue

Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies.

OK Toolbox.

GC (where you must be from) is mentioned 4 times, and let's remember that Syo beat GC by 4 goals THIS year. So, if GC is in the mix, Syo absolutely should be mentioned. Syo lost to Farmingdale, true, and Kudos to Farmingdale for winning, but that was a one goal game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oddly enough every post in here where the High school team loses is blamed on the coaches. Now, since your kid didn't make the team it's the player. Which is it?

My kid didn't try out. The same [lacrosse] of a coach picks his political team year after year and then blows it at the tournament. It's like clockwork and has become amusing to me. So who's to blame I'd say both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who blew for LI again the "talent " or the "coach". LI is starting to be the bad news bears of UA

I blame UA for continuing to let the same person run (for the money) the LI system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who blew for LI again the "talent " or the "coach". LI is starting to be the bad news bears of UA

I blame UA for continuing to let the same person run (for the money) the LI system.

It isnt just LI that is picking their favorite High School or Club players. South Command team has over 50% of players having to do with their coaches in some capacity. Baltimore Team has CH players and MIAA players everywhere ( that has to do with both holdbacks and favoritism), etc ,etc,. Many of these players are top players but some shouldnt be there.

UA might want to have someone besides coaches of team do final evaluate and picking of players. Its starting to get to much like coachy ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who blew for LI again the "talent " or the "coach". LI is starting to be the bad news bears of UA

I blame UA for continuing to let the same person run (for the money) the LI system.

Ibelieve UA CSE would make more money if different people were involved each year as more kids would try out and pay the fee if they felt they had a fairer chance to make the team. number of kids at the tryouts are way way down from just a few years ago and that was when they only had one division

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Wow!
Given the chance to answer a decent question and offer a thoughtful response/ informed opinion you two just couldn't help but put on your captain-douchebaggg costume.

Not even good enough to suggest a better matchup for consideration.... unless you two would like to see Roslyn vs Carey.

Just keep it simple... I would have liked to see GC vs Cham.
Both played St iggy. And Manhasset 34ydue

Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies.

OK Toolbox.

GC (where you must be from) is mentioned 4 times, and let's remember that Syo beat GC by 4 goals THIS year. So, if GC is in the mix, Syo absolutely should be mentioned. Syo lost to Farmingdale, true, and Kudos to Farmingdale for winning, but that was a one goal game.

Shockingly, the Syo NPD's gets involved and immediately, and incorrectly states I'm from GC. But GC did win LI, Syosset on the other hand was the 3rd place team. One goal, or 10 goals, Syosset lost, they were the 3rd place team, show me the other 3rd place teams listed ? Typical Syo NPD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

And the Calvert Hall goalie.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who blew for LI again the "talent " or the "coach". LI is starting to be the bad news bears of UA

I blame UA for continuing to let the same person run (for the money) the LI system.

Ibelieve UA CSE would make more money if different people were involved each year as more kids would try out and pay the fee if they felt they had a fairer chance to make the team. number of kids at the tryouts are way way down from just a few years ago and that was when they only had one division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ten LI HS Games that should have been played.......

Which would have been a better contest for long island bragging rights?

CSH vs. WM

Cham vs CSH

GC vs Cham

WM vs SYO

Smith East vs GC

GC vs WM

GC vs CSH

Manhasett vs WM

SYO vs Cham

WI vs Cham

On a side note ... Darien vs CSH would have been nice.

Okay a good list but what is the third place team from Nassau A doing with all the rest? Might as well throw Carey in the mix too!

Roslyn also deserves a spot.

Wow!
Given the chance to answer a decent question and offer a thoughtful response/ informed opinion you two just couldn't help but put on your captain-douchebaggg costume.

Not even good enough to suggest a better matchup for consideration.... unless you two would like to see Roslyn vs Carey.

Just keep it simple... I would have liked to see GC vs Cham.
Both played St iggy. And Manhasset 34ydue

Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies.

OK Toolbox.

GC (where you must be from) is mentioned 4 times, and let's remember that Syo beat GC by 4 goals THIS year. So, if GC is in the mix, Syo absolutely should be mentioned. Syo lost to Farmingdale, true, and Kudos to Farmingdale for winning, but that was a one goal game.

OK Just the original poster... not a toolbox.

For the record, I included CSH 3X, WM 4X, Cham 4X, GC 4X, SYO 2X, MANH 1X, WI 1X, and SmithEast 1X. Why did I select these 8 teams? simple - because they are (some) the better teams on LI....( I Probably should have included Pequa vs somebody).

I would have liked to see the most talented teams play each other, and in the case of WI, I'm a fan of the coach and the old rivalry with Cham.

You deduced that I'm from GC because I chose them 4X- (but not from Cham or WM based on your same logic).

From the tone of your post (especially the name calling and limited vocabulary), I might guess that you are probably a frustrated daddy from SYO trying to justify an ok but very disappointing season. Am I right?

If you could please post a sound-clip of your knuckles dragging and the gnashing of your teeth I could be 100% certain.
Maybe include a letter from your anger management instructor, or the brand of sleeveless t shirt you wear.

thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

no tryout is perfect for any team, this is the same group that also picked the younger team that won. If this was picked and coached by all public school coaches you probably would have had a vastly different team but you probably have the same results, and you would have had just as many complaints about [lacrosse] the team was picked.- this team was seeded second after the round robin and beat both teams that made the finals. there is a lot of talent out there both on LI and in the entire country.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

not sure that will continue the younger team was only missing a few players.

That's some good stuff there my friend! You have Syo pegged pretty damn perfectly!

What's with all the SYO haters on this board, are they really that bad? I know a few, they seem ok.

just looked at tryout fee's for Express and team 91 for Long Island its Crazy , compared to the out of State fee's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with all the SYO haters on this board, are they really that bad? I know a few, they seem ok.

You mean like yourself?

Go to one of their HS basketball games, they are a [lacrosse] bunch of classless low life's.

The Tide 2.0 will be the team to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Tide 2.0 will be the team to beat.

Who the [lacrosse] are the Tide?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/b]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Look no one says that the talent isn't great it's just not the best that could have been picked based upon the tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/b]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Look no one says that the talent isn't great it's just not the best that could have been picked based upon the tryout.

Ok, I do agree with you on that. From what I saw back than was that 2-3 players should have been on he team that looked great in the tryout. And those 2-3 players were catholic school players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/b]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Look no one says that the talent isn't great it's just not the best that could have been picked based upon the tryout.

Ok, I do agree with you on that. From what I saw back than was that 2-3 players should have been on he team that looked great in the tryout. And those 2-3 players were catholic school players.

Odds are those kids were not getting privates with MC and MC Jr.

Tide had over 20 Di one players, 3 all Americans 2017

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/b]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Look no one says that the talent isn't great it's just not the best that could have been picked based upon the tryout.

Ok, I do agree with you on that. From what I saw back than was that 2-3 players should have been on he team that looked great in the tryout. And those 2-3 players were catholic school players.

Odds are those kids were not getting privates with MC and MC Jr.

Do you morons think this is an exact science ? Every kid on the team is a good player. There are only so many roster spots available so unfortunately some very good players do not make the team. 3 of the four Long Island teams won championships. A couple of the boys who made the team were outstanding in the tournament neither play for LIE and they do not go to catholic school.
The two I am referencing were defiantly to of the best on the team. I am sure that one of you jack [lacrosse] negative misfits will dream up some conspiracy as to how they were selected.

Can I say, this site makes me laugh on a daily basis!! Yes, I said it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's some good stuff there my friend! You have Syo pegged pretty damn perfectly!

Thanks....
There is so much to work with here.
Painting the typical SYO dad with a that broad brush... you get such a clear cartoonish character that is so easy to identify.
Most SYO dads unwittingly seem to live up to that "prized persona" on a daily basis.

The beauty is that this is free entertainment for us all to witness and enjoy.

Lacrosse stick ... $150
Lacrosse Gloves...$150
Watching SYO dads on the sidelines.... Priceless $$$$

one more thing.... Syosset---- Baaahaaahaaa!

Long Island won 3 out of the 4 divisions...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's some good stuff there my friend! You have Syo pegged pretty damn perfectly!

Thanks....
There is so much to work with here.
Painting the typical SYO dad with a that broad brush... you get such a clear cartoonish character that is so easy to identify.
Most SYO dads unwittingly seem to live up to that "prized persona" on a daily basis.

The beauty is that this is free entertainment for us all to witness and enjoy.

Lacrosse stick ... $150
Lacrosse Gloves...$150
Watching SYO dads on the sidelines.... Priceless $$$$

one more thing.... Syosset---- Baaahaaahaaa!

Awesomeness! Really, killing it today! Keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/b]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best part is watching the LI team lose year after year as the "elite" LI players poop the bed along with the inept coach.

It's joke, no real try out. 90% of the team pre-determined before the tryout on LI. Chaminade, St. A and LIE ties all the way around. You could easily put a team together that would beat the team that was sent. Same thing every year.

You are dead wrong about the talent on that I team last year, if you were at the last night (final game) of the tryout you wouldn't be saying that. It was very highly intense regarding the speed & D1 ability of the top 40 last year. The real issue was the head coach who actually was NOT even a sanctioned coach from UA. The dad ruined it for all on the team and MC allowed it. And yes, my kid was on the team.

Look no one says that the talent isn't great it's just not the best that could have been picked based upon the tryout.

Ok, I do agree with you on that. From what I saw back than was that 2-3 players should have been on he team that looked great in the tryout. And those 2-3 players were catholic school players.

What about the players who received the phone call before the actual tryouts and did absolutely nothing at the tryout. I mean nothing. One player was on my son's team and did nothing I mean nothing but still made team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the players who received the phone call before the actual tryouts and did absolutely nothing at the tryout. I mean nothing. One player was on my son's team and did nothing I mean nothing but still made team.

Do four negatives make a positive? I mean the nothingness of doing nothing would seem to be doing something, correct? The kid must have been really good at nothing to really do nothing and I mean nothing and still make the team, sort of the George Costanza of lacrosse

Why even have tryouts??.........Oh I know, to generate huge $$$$. The way it should work is the way the senior games work. Kids are chosen by committee based on their body of work, including actual stats to back up selections. After all, someone needs to pay MCs mortgage, ya dopes!

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

BOOM...just saw the UA roster...St. Doms should be legit this year! Prob going to whack St. s and Chaminade!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

So because your son didn't make it it's all BS? Wow, little pretentious there buddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

So because your son didn't make it it's all BS? Wow, little pretentious there buddy.

easy Fella, look at the older division. There was 1 public school kid that made the team who didn't play at Express. The rest were Catholic kids or out of towners. MC is promoting his brand. He uses the UA as a tool for recruiting kids to his organization and the catholics. He doesn't even hide that fact. Are the players selected good, yes. I bet if you make a team of the best of the rest of the public school kids they would be as good or better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

So because your son didn't make it it's all BS? Wow, little pretentious there buddy.

easy Fella, look at the older division. There was 1 public school kid that made the team who didn't play at Express. The rest were Catholic kids or out of towners. MC is promoting his brand. He uses the UA as a tool for recruiting kids to his organization and the catholics. He doesn't even hide that fact. Are the players selected good, yes. I bet if you make a team of the best of the rest of the public school kids they would be as good or better.

That's fine pal o' mine, but don't use your son, as good as he may be, it makes you seem disingenuous. Good luck going forward

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

I couldn't agree more with your statement. Unless your kids coach was there to advocate for him, he was probably not picked. Same happened to other kids with top ten stats and honors. They were not part of the triad of school coaches evaluating or giving their two cents. It's a shame and am just wondering if it will ever change.

Hey Fella. You are the one that said pick on how they played/ Stats. He had the numbers did not have politics behind him. Ok fella. IF he played on Turtles he would have make the team fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

I couldn't agree more with your statement. Unless your kids coach was there to advocate for him, he was probably not picked. Same happened to other kids with top ten stats and honors. They were not part of the triad of school coaches evaluating or giving their two cents. It's a shame and am just wondering if it will ever change.

I ALSO WANT TO THINK SOME OF THE TOP WOUL DNTO BE THE TOP IF THEY HAD A BALACEND OFFENSIVE UNIT. SO THE BEST ISNT ALWAYS THE TOP IN THE LEADER BOARD. THE BEST MAKE THOSE AROUND THEM BETTER. NOW IF A SCHOOL HAS MANY IN THE TOP THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS QUESTION THE COMPETITION.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

I couldn't agree more with your statement. Unless your kids coach was there to advocate for him, he was probably not picked. Same happened to other kids with top ten stats and honors. They were not part of the triad of school coaches evaluating or giving their two cents. It's a shame and am just wondering if it will ever change.

I ALSO WANT TO THINK SOME OF THE TOP WOUL DNTO BE THE TOP IF THEY HAD A BALACEND OFFENSIVE UNIT. SO THE BEST ISNT ALWAYS THE TOP IN THE LEADER BOARD. THE BEST MAKE THOSE AROUND THEM BETTER. NOW IF A SCHOOL HAS MANY IN THE TOP THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS QUESTION THE COMPETITION.

Very fair comment but the guy didn't say he was the top 5 goal scorer. He could have been top 5 assists or overall points which means he did make other people look good around him. I think the point he is trying to make is the system is screwed up. All the boys are good but there are boys that are better that were not picked for reasons on then their ability.

Not directed at you specifically but what is up with the "Fella" guy. Sounds angry and kind of stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

I saw your kid play a few times, yes maybe he had the stats but do you really think he is a team player? I didn't think he played great defense particularly off ball where his man backed doored him on at least two occasions. He needs to show more energy on riding and needs work on his off hand low to high shot, he needs to bury it from 18 yards. Good luck to him next year, with some work he could be real good

You have the wrong kid, but I used my kid not do put my chest out,but simply too say The 2017 group has seen kids anointed in 4th grade and it stay that way for the next 8 years. Just saying some kids worked hard and pass some of those kids by, but still the chosen ones got pick for everything. Not right that's all I am saying.

If one's son is picked it's legit. If one's son is not picked it's all a scam and political. It's the same with everything. At this point who cares.

Really don't care anymore, until my next guy gets snub. Lol

Here are my 2 cents about club ball. I hope some can take a bit a way from what I write here and make their journey a bit easier

When the kids are young and they happen to be selected to a good team and that team stays together you are one of the lucky ones. A lot has to do with the coach of that particular the team not the program. Many programs have great teams at different age groups and not so good at others. We are luck to live on Long Island to have a large talent pool so different clubs can have good to great teams at the same age group. If a coach is strong and runs great practices makes it fun all while teaching the game the right way he will develop all the players on the team and the team will do well for a number of years. There will be those kids that decide lacrosse is not for them and spots will open up. As the players mature 8th-10th there will be the kids that were bigger and better at a young age all of the sudden not be the biggest or the best anymore and maybe there will be some room for new players that have gotten better than those kids. Coaches have it hard with these kids because they have been on the team now for 3 or 4 years and the team is a family. You spend a lot of time with the parents and players traveling all over and bonding. Some coaches keep it status quo others make changes. Things do get a bit difficult when the owners of clubs get involved. They can really stir up the pot and make some odd decisions about teams especially when a team is successful. This is the type of team that everyone wants to play for and has the reputation for winning tournaments. This happens a lot. If the coach is a strong one they wont let it happen.

There is the other end also. Your new to the game but have a good player but end up in a bad program. Bad coach bad owner. There are a lot of them. There are the fledgling programs that make promises that they cant keep. There are the programs that have been around for a while and are on their last leg or going through growing pains at certain age groups. There are also teams in good programs that are just run poorly. All of these factors can contribute to a great experience or a horrible one. It is a real crap shoot. For many that are new to the game its like a mine field and if you are lucky you land with a good coach and an ownership that allows that coach to develop his team and players. Sometimes you just get unlucky and have to navigate the waters before you find a home. Its different for everyone.

I wish everyone the best of luck on their journey with their children. Its a tough one that will have a lots of ups and downs. Hopefully more ups. For many of you the last game your child will play is their last high school game. Others will go on to college careers or club ball. In the end what everyone should remember is the time that they spent with their child. The road trips and staying in hotels the friends and experiences that you and your child had. Eating crabs in Maryland or Philly cheese steaks and trying to determine who has the better one Franks, Genos, or Tony Lukes, or lobster rolls in Maine. Its all a journey we should try and enjoy it. Its a tough one because people are spending a lot of money and there are those who are in it just for the money and dont take into consideration a childs feelings like you as a parent do. Its just a business to many and they dont really care about you or your kid but if your check clears. I hope most are lucky enough to find a coach or a program that just loves the game. Good luck to all. I am sad to say that my sons club lacrosse journey is almost over. I would not trade the time I have spent with him driving to and from tournaments watching him on the field or with his teammates just being kids and eventually young men.The memories I have are priceless. We will see what the next chapter may bring for him and I hope he has the opportunity to play the game he loves in college and beyond.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are my 2 cents about club ball. I hope some can take a bit a way from what I write here and make their journey a bit easier

When the kids are young and they happen to be selected to a good team and that team stays together you are one of the lucky ones. A lot has to do with the coach of that particular the team not the program. Many programs have great teams at different age groups and not so good at others. We are luck to live on Long Island to have a large talent pool so different clubs can have good to great teams at the same age group. If a coach is strong and runs great practices makes it fun all while teaching the game the right way he will develop all the players on the team and the team will do well for a number of years. There will be those kids that decide lacrosse is not for them and spots will open up. As the players mature 8th-10th there will be the kids that were bigger and better at a young age all of the sudden not be the biggest or the best anymore and maybe there will be some room for new players that have gotten better than those kids. Coaches have it hard with these kids because they have been on the team now for 3 or 4 years and the team is a family. You spend a lot of time with the parents and players traveling all over and bonding. Some coaches keep it status quo others make changes. Things do get a bit difficult when the owners of clubs get involved. They can really stir up the pot and make some odd decisions about teams especially when a team is successful. This is the type of team that everyone wants to play for and has the reputation for winning tournaments. This happens a lot. If the coach is a strong one they wont let it happen.

There is the other end also. Your new to the game but have a good player but end up in a bad program. Bad coach bad owner. There are a lot of them. There are the fledgling programs that make promises that they cant keep. There are the programs that have been around for a while and are on their last leg or going through growing pains at certain age groups. There are also teams in good programs that are just run poorly. All of these factors can contribute to a great experience or a horrible one. It is a real crap shoot. For many that are new to the game its like a mine field and if you are lucky you land with a good coach and an ownership that allows that coach to develop his team and players. Sometimes you just get unlucky and have to navigate the waters before you find a home. Its different for everyone.

I wish everyone the best of luck on their journey with their children. Its a tough one that will have a lots of ups and downs. Hopefully more ups. For many of you the last game your child will play is their last high school game. Others will go on to college careers or club ball. In the end what everyone should remember is the time that they spent with their child. The road trips and staying in hotels the friends and experiences that you and your child had. Eating crabs in Maryland or Philly cheese steaks and trying to determine who has the better one Franks, Genos, or Tony Lukes, or lobster rolls in Maine. Its all a journey we should try and enjoy it. Its a tough one because people are spending a lot of money and there are those who are in it just for the money and dont take into consideration a childs feelings like you as a parent do. Its just a business to many and they dont really care about you or your kid but if your check clears. I hope most are lucky enough to find a coach or a program that just loves the game. Good luck to all. I am sad to say that my sons club lacrosse journey is almost over. I would not trade the time I have spent with him driving to and from tournaments watching him on the field or with his teammates just being kids and eventually young men.The memories I have are priceless. We will see what the next chapter may bring for him and I hope he has the opportunity to play the game he loves in college and beyond.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are my 2 cents about club ball. I hope some can take a bit a way from what I write here and make their journey a bit easier

When the kids are young and they happen to be selected to a good team and that team stays together you are one of the lucky ones. A lot has to do with the coach of that particular the team not the program. Many programs have great teams at different age groups and not so good at others. We are luck to live on Long Island to have a large talent pool so different clubs can have good to great teams at the same age group. If a coach is strong and runs great practices makes it fun all while teaching the game the right way he will develop all the players on the team and the team will do well for a number of years. There will be those kids that decide lacrosse is not for them and spots will open up. As the players mature 8th-10th there will be the kids that were bigger and better at a young age all of the sudden not be the biggest or the best anymore and maybe there will be some room for new players that have gotten better than those kids. Coaches have it hard with these kids because they have been on the team now for 3 or 4 years and the team is a family. You spend a lot of time with the parents and players traveling all over and bonding. Some coaches keep it status quo others make changes. Things do get a bit difficult when the owners of clubs get involved. They can really stir up the pot and make some odd decisions about teams especially when a team is successful. This is the type of team that everyone wants to play for and has the reputation for winning tournaments. This happens a lot. If the coach is a strong one they wont let it happen.

There is the other end also. Your new to the game but have a good player but end up in a bad program. Bad coach bad owner. There are a lot of them. There are the fledgling programs that make promises that they cant keep. There are the programs that have been around for a while and are on their last leg or going through growing pains at certain age groups. There are also teams in good programs that are just run poorly. All of these factors can contribute to a great experience or a horrible one. It is a real crap shoot. For many that are new to the game its like a mine field and if you are lucky you land with a good coach and an ownership that allows that coach to develop his team and players. Sometimes you just get unlucky and have to navigate the waters before you find a home. Its different for everyone.

I wish everyone the best of luck on their journey with their children. Its a tough one that will have a lots of ups and downs. Hopefully more ups. For many of you the last game your child will play is their last high school game. Others will go on to college careers or club ball. In the end what everyone should remember is the time that they spent with their child. The road trips and staying in hotels the friends and experiences that you and your child had. Eating crabs in Maryland or Philly cheese steaks and trying to determine who has the better one Franks, Genos, or Tony Lukes, or lobster rolls in Maine. Its all a journey we should try and enjoy it. Its a tough one because people are spending a lot of money and there are those who are in it just for the money and dont take into consideration a childs feelings like you as a parent do. Its just a business to many and they dont really care about you or your kid but if your check clears. I hope most are lucky enough to find a coach or a program that just loves the game. Good luck to all. I am sad to say that my sons club lacrosse journey is almost over. I would not trade the time I have spent with him driving to and from tournaments watching him on the field or with his teammates just being kids and eventually young men.The memories I have are priceless. We will see what the next chapter may bring for him and I hope he has the opportunity to play the game he loves in college and beyond.

Good post, I can identify with much of what you said and it's all true. I could tell stories that would spin people's heads! In the end everything worked out great for my son, but there sure were a lot of ups and downs. I've seen plenty of great kids and families get screwed along the way. I have also learned that when your son is doing well, there are far more people routing against him than for him. Trust your instincts, and karma had a way of making things even!

So true my kid had great year, good friends so jealous of him that I felt imbarrssed for them. And our they acted,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So true my kid had great year, good friends so jealous of him that I felt imbarrssed for them. And our they acted,

What language is this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is a Senior great PS program, he was top five in stats on Long Island did not get the nod to play. It's all BS based on politics and money. Not the best players.

I couldn't agree more with your statement. Unless your kids coach was there to advocate for him, he was probably not picked. Same happened to other kids with top ten stats and honors. They were not part of the triad of school coaches evaluating or giving their two cents. It's a shame and am just wondering if it will ever change.

I ALSO WANT TO THINK SOME OF THE TOP WOUL DNTO BE THE TOP IF THEY HAD A BALACEND OFFENSIVE UNIT. SO THE BEST ISNT ALWAYS THE TOP IN THE LEADER BOARD. THE BEST MAKE THOSE AROUND THEM BETTER. NOW IF A SCHOOL HAS MANY IN THE TOP THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS QUESTION THE COMPETITION.

Turn off your cap lock - so annoying . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are my 2 cents about club ball. I hope some can take a bit a way from what I write here and make their journey a bit easier

When the kids are young and they happen to be selected to a good team and that team stays together you are one of the lucky ones. A lot has to do with the coach of that particular the team not the program. Many programs have great teams at different age groups and not so good at others. We are luck to live on Long Island to have a large talent pool so different clubs can have good to great teams at the same age group. If a coach is strong and runs great practices makes it fun all while teaching the game the right way he will develop all the players on the team and the team will do well for a number of years. There will be those kids that decide lacrosse is not for them and spots will open up. As the players mature 8th-10th there will be the kids that were bigger and better at a young age all of the sudden not be the biggest or the best anymore and maybe there will be some room for new players that have gotten better than those kids. Coaches have it hard with these kids because they have been on the team now for 3 or 4 years and the team is a family. You spend a lot of time with the parents and players traveling all over and bonding. Some coaches keep it status quo others make changes. Things do get a bit difficult when the owners of clubs get involved. They can really stir up the pot and make some odd decisions about teams especially when a team is successful. This is the type of team that everyone wants to play for and has the reputation for winning tournaments. This happens a lot. If the coach is a strong one they wont let it happen.

There is the other end also. Your new to the game but have a good player but end up in a bad program. Bad coach bad owner. There are a lot of them. There are the fledgling programs that make promises that they cant keep. There are the programs that have been around for a while and are on their last leg or going through growing pains at certain age groups. There are also teams in good programs that are just run poorly. All of these factors can contribute to a great experience or a horrible one. It is a real crap shoot. For many that are new to the game its like a mine field and if you are lucky you land with a good coach and an ownership that allows that coach to develop his team and players. Sometimes you just get unlucky and have to navigate the waters before you find a home. Its different for everyone.

I wish everyone the best of luck on their journey with their children. Its a tough one that will have a lots of ups and downs. Hopefully more ups. For many of you the last game your child will play is their last high school game. Others will go on to college careers or club ball. In the end what everyone should remember is the time that they spent with their child. The road trips and staying in hotels the friends and experiences that you and your child had. Eating crabs in Maryland or Philly cheese steaks and trying to determine who has the better one Franks, Genos, or Tony Lukes, or lobster rolls in Maine. Its all a journey we should try and enjoy it. Its a tough one because people are spending a lot of money and there are those who are in it just for the money and dont take into consideration a childs feelings like you as a parent do. Its just a business to many and they dont really care about you or your kid but if your check clears. I hope most are lucky enough to find a coach or a program that just loves the game. Good luck to all. I am sad to say that my sons club lacrosse journey is almost over. I would not trade the time I have spent with him driving to and from tournaments watching him on the field or with his teammates just being kids and eventually young men.The memories I have are priceless. We will see what the next chapter may bring for him and I hope he has the opportunity to play the game he loves in college and beyond.

Great post. My kids are on the journey now, but are still young. The one piece of advise I have constantly received from parents of kids who have gone through it already is this: They all regret that they left club (fill in the blank). Looking back, they bounced around from one club to the next, only to realize later that they should have just stayed where they were. This does not mean that people don't find themselves in bad situations and need to leave - its just that if you are considering leaving one club for another, make sure that its really necessary. The people that have counseled me have all said that they left because of a small problem, only to find different, but newer problems at the next stop.

My two cents is that you should never leave your club if all of the following are true: a) your kid is happy and wants to keep playing and practicing; b) is getting better both in terms of individual skill and team concepts/IQ; c) the team plays good lacrosse for its age level; d) the players, coaches and parents are good, classy people who you want your kid to be around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's some good stuff there my friend! You have Syo pegged pretty damn perfectly!

Thanks....
There is so much to work with here.
Painting the typical SYO dad with a that broad brush... you get such a clear cartoonish character that is so easy to identify.
Most SYO dads unwittingly seem to live up to that "prized persona" on a daily basis.

The beauty is that this is free entertainment for us all to witness and enjoy.

Lacrosse stick ... $150
Lacrosse Gloves...$150
Watching SYO dads on the sidelines.... Priceless $$$$

one more thing.... Syosset---- Baaahaaahaaa!

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

What is the obsession with SYO.. JEALOUS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

What is the obsession with SYO.. JEALOUS!

Syosset certainly isn't one of the Long Island towns that anyone's jealous of.

Yes that is very obvious on this site!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

What is the obsession with SYO.. JEALOUS!

Syosset certainly isn't one of the Long Island towns that anyone's jealous of.

Right...not anyone...

EVERYONE is jealous of Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

What is the obsession with SYO.. JEALOUS!

Syosset certainly isn't one of the Long Island towns that anyone's jealous of.

Right...not anyone...

EVERYONE is jealous of Syosset.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, just what everyone wants to be: Coward: a trait wherein fear and excessive self-concern override doing or saying what is right, good, and of help to others or oneself in a time of need—it is the opposite of courage. Sorry pompous guy, you can keep all that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You forgot to mention they have to go home in their underwear!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

But it is usually a pretty nice home, well landscaped, nice in ground pool and plenty of room for a cage, yes it must be horrible to have to grow up in that town !!!!!!!!!! BAAAAHAHHHAHHAHA

What is the obsession with SYO.. JEALOUS!

Syosset certainly isn't one of the Long Island towns that anyone's jealous of.

Right...not anyone...

EVERYONE is jealous of Syosset.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, just what everyone wants to be: Coward: a trait wherein fear and excessive self-concern override doing or saying what is right, good, and of help to others or oneself in a time of need—it is the opposite of courage. Sorry pompous guy, you can keep all that.

WOW! All I can take away from this is that you are a damaged person who needs a lot of help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sayville team could have 50 kids on it and still will never play like and have the heart we had. We played with passion and heart bc Coach Doller coached us like that. I did not see that in one game the past 2 seasons. My college coach went to see sayville play and said "that is NOT a sayville team, what happened "? College coaches will not be getting the same kids they once expected from Sayville

Are we stuck with the current coach or do we have a chance to bring in someone or better yet, bring back Coach Doller? Sayville deserves better.

when i was in HS when you played Jv and Varsity you had to go to the Away Camp for that sports team. Do schools still do this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sayville team could have 50 kids on it and still will never play like and have the heart we had. We played with passion and heart bc Coach Doller coached us like that. I did not see that in one game the past 2 seasons. My college coach went to see sayville play and said "that is NOT a sayville team, what happened "? College coaches will not be getting the same kids they once expected from Sayville

Are we stuck with the current coach or do we have a chance to bring in someone or better yet, bring back Coach Doller? Sayville deserves better.

I'm beyond disappointed that Coach Doller has been replaced by a man who doesn't have the same drive ,determination and grit . Coaching at the High School level is the most important factor for the success of the program. We live on Long Island most teams have very skilled players. It's not what you get out of your stars it's what you get out of role players that matters most. Say what you want about Doller but he got the most out of every kid on the field. Certainly cannot be said about the current coach.
This year's team had 4 Division 1 commits and 2-3 Division 3 commits. So more than 3 quarters of the team are going to play the next level. They went 7-9. Unacceptable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOOM...just saw the UA roster...St. Doms should be legit this year! Prob going to whack St. s and Chaminade!

Why is that are they suppose to be good this year ?

Good Luck with the new Coach at St Doms

doms best player probably ever, off to college. sorry mommy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOOM...just saw the UA roster...St. Doms should be legit this year! Prob going to whack St. s and Chaminade!

Why is that are they suppose to be good this year ?

Two on the UA roster, and one is the coach's son. Good players but they were on the team this past season and there was no BOOM.

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Has nothing to do with views, it's the obsession that a few people have on here constantly bringing SYO back into a conversation. If you dislike the people from that town, just ignore them. If you don't mention them, they will eventually be irrelevant but constantly bringing them back into the thread, even if trying to be funny or in a negative light, only makes you look like a jealous fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Has nothing to do with views, it's the obsession that a few people have on here constantly bringing SYO back into a conversation. If you dislike the people from that town, just ignore them. If you don't mention them, they will eventually be irrelevant but constantly bringing them back into the thread, even if trying to be funny or in a negative light, only makes you look like a jealous fool.

OK, I'll play.....

Call me one the fools but..... How 'bout those dads from SYO? Am I right?
Baawaaahaaahaahaa!

I mean, talk about cartoon characters!
They cant help but live up to those negative, self centered, ego centric, quietly insecure, bombastic, keeping up with the jones', stereotypes.

I would love to get a glimpse of how Looney-Toons or Hannah Barbara would draw them. It would be epic and funny in a cruel way.

Use your imagination.

comments welcome

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Has nothing to do with views, it's the obsession that a few people have on here constantly bringing SYO back into a conversation. If you dislike the people from that town, just ignore them. If you don't mention them, they will eventually be irrelevant but constantly bringing them back into the thread, even if trying to be funny or in a negative light, only makes you look like a jealous fool.

I think a lot of the malice towards Syosset is brought upon themselves. Their pompous attitudes and self proclamations of being the best rubs people the wrong way. A few years of success does not make you the best. Look at teams like Ward Melville, Manhasset, Garden City, and Yorktown. It seems to me that those who live in Syosset want to clump themselves in with these teams yet they have no where near the success of the aforementioned towns. In the grand scheme of things Syossets recent success is a flash in the pan compared to the storied programs. These programs put very good to great teams on the field year in and year out. They have some down but overall have a lot more up years. I also want to make sure that I mean no disrespect to other programs that I didn't mention. I was using these few as examples.

Has nothing to do with lacrosse. It's the general attitude of the parents. They look down upon the rest of us as if they are special. They are sore losers and poor winners. A little humility would help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Has nothing to do with views, it's the obsession that a few people have on here constantly bringing SYO back into a conversation. If you dislike the people from that town, just ignore them. If you don't mention them, they will eventually be irrelevant but constantly bringing them back into the thread, even if trying to be funny or in a negative light, only makes you look like a jealous fool.

I think a lot of the malice towards Syosset is brought upon themselves. Their pompous attitudes and self proclamations of being the best rubs people the wrong way. A few years of success does not make you the best. Look at teams like Ward Melville, Manhasset, Garden City, and Yorktown. It seems to me that those who live in Syosset want to clump themselves in with these teams yet they have no where near the success of the aforementioned towns. In the grand scheme of things Syossets recent success is a flash in the pan compared to the storied programs. These programs put very good to great teams on the field year in and year out. They have some down but overall have a lot more up years. I also want to make sure that I mean no disrespect to other programs that I didn't mention. I was using these few as examples.

It's not just the lacrosse program -- they want the town itself to be seen as on the level of places like Manhasset, CSH, and Garden City -- which, as we all know, is laughable.

Any one know when Tide 2,0 try outs are?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has nothing to do with lacrosse. It's the general attitude of the parents. They look down upon the rest of us as if they are special. They are sore losers and poor winners. A little humility would help.

we hate you too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has nothing to do with lacrosse. It's the general attitude of the parents. They look down upon the rest of us as if they are special. They are sore losers and poor winners. A little humility would help.

we hate you too

I know, you just confirmed what I wrote. Not too smart either I see!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jealous of Syosset??? Delusional... Take a drive a town to the East or the town to the North just to see what's out there fella. your only shot of a water view is the sump in your neighborhood...

Has nothing to do with views, it's the obsession that a few people have on here constantly bringing SYO back into a conversation. If you dislike the people from that town, just ignore them. If you don't mention them, they will eventually be irrelevant but constantly bringing them back into the thread, even if trying to be funny or in a negative light, only makes you look like a jealous fool.

I think a lot of the malice towards Syosset is brought upon themselves. Their pompous attitudes and self proclamations of being the best rubs people the wrong way. A few years of success does not make you the best. Look at teams like Ward Melville, Manhasset, Garden City, and Yorktown. It seems to me that those who live in Syosset want to clump themselves in with these teams yet they have no where near the success of the aforementioned towns. In the grand scheme of things Syossets recent success is a flash in the pan compared to the storied programs. These programs put very good to great teams on the field year in and year out. They have some down but overall have a lot more up years. I also want to make sure that I mean no disrespect to other programs that I didn't mention. I was using these few as examples.

It's not just the lacrosse program -- they want the town itself to be seen as on the level of places like Manhasset, CSH, and Garden City -- which, as we all know, is laughable.

Not the best.... But good enough to beat GC for the last 3 years running.

Take ur Woodstick and shove it. Oh, and keep your wives out of Syosset, the landscapers are not getting their work done.

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sayville team could have 50 kids on it and still will never play like and have the heart we had. We played with passion and heart bc Coach Doller coached us like that. I did not see that in one game the past 2 seasons. My college coach went to see sayville play and said "that is NOT a sayville team, what happened "? College coaches will not be getting the same kids they once expected from Sayville

Are we stuck with the current coach or do we have a chance to bring in someone or better yet, bring back Coach Doller? Sayville deserves better.

I'm beyond disappointed that Coach Doller has been replaced by a man who doesn't have the same drive ,determination and grit . Coaching at the High School level is the most important factor for the success of the program. We live on Long Island most teams have very skilled players. It's not what you get out of your stars it's what you get out of role players that matters most. Say what you want about Doller but he got the most out of every kid on the field. Certainly cannot be said about the current coach.
This year's team had 4 Division 1 commits and 2-3 Division 3 commits. So more than 3 quarters of the team are going to play the next level. They went 7-9. Unacceptable!

There are just not a lot of people qualified or willing to coach. It's a small pool of people. Doller was a fine coach but you have to be honest and realize he brought his situation on himself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

mmm love me some Zorns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

Sysosset is not on the "Gold Coast" . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

no pants, good one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

just an FYI - layoffs are win and advance, lose and go home propositions so there is no consolation game and therefore no "3rd place". Syo lost is the Semi-finals but to say they were 3rd place is not correct and not fair to PW who also lost in the semi-finals and would have beaten Syo easily in the consolation game had there been one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

That's good, because you'll be coming in third place for a long long time NPD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

That's good, because you'll be coming in third place for a long long time NPD

I heard Syosset got lumped up at Hofstra this weekend!

just check tourney machine and stop trying to cause trouble on here, you jack [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

That's good, because you'll be coming in third place for a long long time NPD

That's not what you wife says. Stop trolling Syosset and take care of business at home. Seriously, our pools are getting cloudy and our lawns need to be cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

That's good, because you'll be coming in third place for a long long time NPD

That's not what you wife says. Stop trolling Syosset and take care of business at home. Seriously, our pools are getting cloudy and our lawns need to be cut.

Sure thing, I'll drop by with pants for the boys, and spines for the dads! Hahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

I like the Pequa dig there. Let me describe Massapequa for you my narrow minded Syosset tool: a little while ago an NYPD officer was murdered in the line of duty. He wasn't from Massapequa, but the funeral was held there. The town closed the school and all the roads to make sure thee was no inconvenience to the family. The kids lined the streets and handed out water. The homeowners opened their doors to let the mourners use the bathroom. The head lacrosse coach stood there and paid his respects along with thousands of other massapequa residents. Thats Massapequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

Not at all... 100% respect for the Dalers.

I like the Pequa dig there. Let me describe Massapequa for you my narrow minded Syosset tool: a little while ago an NYPD officer was murdered in the line of duty. He wasn't from Massapequa, but the funeral was held there. The town closed the school and all the roads to make sure thee was no inconvenience to the family. The kids lined the streets and handed out water. The homeowners opened their doors to let the mourners use the bathroom. The head lacrosse coach stood there and paid his respects along with thousands of other massapequa residents. Thats Massapequa

Well that turned awfully quick - I read and re-read this 5 times and I can not see any dig against Massapequa only SYO- GC- Bethpage and a mention of Farmingdale. - but it sure sounds like, from your post, that Massapequa people are great American's and obviously much better people then Syosset. I mean after all your coach paid his respects, wow, truly great. ......now can we get back to bashing Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

[/quote
Not from GC, but it must bug you that your precious little braves came in 3rd place to those south shore boys huh! NPD

just an FYI - layoffs are win and advance, lose and go home propositions so there is no consolation game and therefore no "3rd place". Syo lost is the Semi-finals but to say they were 3rd place is not correct and not fair to PW who also lost in the semi-finals and would have beaten Syo easily in the consolation game had there been one.

Can you please tell us where you get your meds from, they must be good... Syo thrashed PW the last 3 years... Why would any rational person think that Port would beat Syosset. Oh, and Syo was the 2 seed in the playoffs and Port was the 4 seed.. Go figure, was that a mistake?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

Sysosset is not on the "Gold Coast" . . .

Very astute observation... You are correct, SYSOSSET is not on the "Gold Coast." Neither is GC, Farmingdale or Massapequa (nobody cares about PW.) if you went to school in Syosset you might know how to spell.

Can you spell Jackass??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

Sysosset is not on the "Gold Coast" . . .

Very astute observation... You are correct, SYSOSSET is not on the "Gold Coast." Neither is GC, Farmingdale or Massapequa (nobody cares about PW.) if you went to school in Syosset you might know how to spell.

Can you spell Jackass??

When all argument fails, go to the spelling. Your high brow address still doesn't excuse your low class attitude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH I get it!!!! Hes a Syosset dad so he wont have pants!!!!!! BURNNNN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

PLEASE - let's Get the facts straight.

This all started on page 208 when some insecure SYO dad got his feeling hurt because someone suggested that his son's team did not belong on a list of interesting games,

here is the exchange......

"Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies."

.....and then we were off to the races with the SYO dad's whiney retort, complete with name calling and whispers of self agrandizing

"OK Toolbox.

GC (where you must be from) is mentioned 4 times, and let's remember that Syo beat GC by 4 goals THIS year. So, if GC is in the mix, Syo absolutely should be mentioned. Syo lost to Farmingdale, true, and Kudos to Farmingdale for winning, but that was a one goal game."

This is exactly why SYO has it's well earned reputation for character, behavior and attitude,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH I get it!!!! Hes a Syosset dad so he wont have pants!!!!!! BURNNNN

Exactly the way I am used to seeing ur wife... It's not a pretty sight...

BBBUUUURRRRNNNN!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH I get it!!!! Hes a Syosset dad so he wont have pants!!!!!! BURNNNN

Exactly the way I am used to seeing ur wife... It's not a pretty sight...

BBBUUUURRRRNNNN!

Do your sons get angry at you for abandoning them in their time of need? You bravely post here and look for fights, but when those poor boys were forced to make the walk of shame in their boxers you stood silently with your heads down. You have no honor or shame!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Cowards? how 'bout we meet in the Zorn's parking lot Saturday at 3? Seems like a good half way point from Flat Island and the beautiful gold coast.

Sure, see you there. Will you be the guy with or without pants?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH I get it!!!! Hes a Syosset dad so he wont have pants!!!!!! BURNNNN

Exactly the way I am used to seeing ur wife... It's not a pretty sight...

BBBUUUURRRRNNNN!

Do your sons get angry at you for abandoning them in their time of need? You bravely post here and look for fights, but when those poor boys were forced to make the walk of shame in their boxers you stood silently with your heads down. You have no honor or shame!

Dude, why are you so infatuated with Syosset, it's not healthy.

Get a life... Start a lacrosse program in your own town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See typical Syo NPD attitudes. Boys wearing pants yet cowards!

Sure Pal...

Go to page 211, some jackass trolled Syosset into this thread...

Typical nonsense...

It must really bug you that Syo beat your precious GC 3 years in a row. Go hit up BK WEENIES, and relive ur glory days.

Don't forget to punch in tomorrow morning.

PLEASE - let's Get the facts straight.

This all started on page 208 when some insecure SYO dad got his feeling hurt because someone suggested that his son's team did not belong on a list of interesting games,

here is the exchange......

"Hold on, Syosset has no business being in this conversation was all I said! I would rather have seen Farmingdale. Syosset was the 3rd place team. The program has a little history but this year was very uninspiring for them. You want good matchups then post them. Don't get your panties in a bunch when someone replies."

.....and then we were off to the races with the SYO dad's whiney retort, complete with name calling and whispers of self agrandizing

"OK Toolbox.

GC (where you must be from) is mentioned 4 times, and let's remember that Syo beat GC by 4 goals THIS year. So, if GC is in the mix, Syo absolutely should be mentioned. Syo lost to Farmingdale, true, and Kudos to Farmingdale for winning, but that was a one goal game."

This is exactly why SYO has it's well earned reputation for character, behavior and attitude,

Wow! U must have recently made detective!

Congrats!

To the Syo NPD who feels I am not busy enough, FYI I just started a not for profit. Our main focus is finding pants for young men whose daddy's refuse to provide them as they exit the locker room. If you have any lightly used pants, sweats or shorts please send them to PO Box No Pants, Syosset, NY.

I have no dog in the fight, but the whole Syosset thing is getting old - telling the same joke over and over again gets exponentially less funny (provided it was even funny the first time) each subsequent time it's told . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the Syo NPD who feels I am not busy enough, FYI I just started a not for profit. Our main focus is finding pants for young men whose daddy's refuse to provide them as they exit the locker room. If you have any lightly used pants, sweats or shorts please send them to PO Box No Pants, Syosset, NY.

It gets funnier every time!!!!!!

Hey has anyone heard of Tide 2.0?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey has anyone heard of Tide 2.0?

New detergent?

Yes! Long Island Tide had a 2017 team. My older son played on it. Coach is forming Tide 2.0 for 2020 and 2021.
Great experience. Small roster, talented kids. All recruited.

Long Island Tide --best Club Lacrosse experience. The way it should be...Great coach!!!! Go to all top recruiting tournaments.
Coach is starting new 2020 and 2021 teams --calling it 2.0.
Tryouts in August. Contact Kevin Kaffl--or look for website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sayville team could have 50 kids on it and still will never play like and have the heart we had. We played with passion and heart bc Coach Doller coached us like that. I did not see that in one game the past 2 seasons. My college coach went to see sayville play and said "that is NOT a sayville team, what happened "? College coaches will not be getting the same kids they once expected from Sayville

Are we stuck with the current coach or do we have a chance to bring in someone or better yet, bring back Coach Doller? Sayville deserves better.

I'm beyond disappointed that Coach Doller has been replaced by a man who doesn't have the same drive ,determination and grit . Coaching at the High School level is the most important factor for the success of the program. We live on Long Island most teams have very skilled players. It's not what you get out of your stars it's what you get out of role players that matters most. Say what you want about Doller but he got the most out of every kid on the field. Certainly cannot be said about the current coach.
This year's team had 4 Division 1 commits and 2-3 Division 3 commits. So more than 3 quarters of the team are going to play the next level. They went 7-9. Unacceptable!

There are just not a lot of people qualified or willing to coach. It's a small pool of people. Doller was a fine coach but you have to be honest and realize he brought his situation on himself.

He brought the situation on himself? How so? He was fired by an out of touch Board and the result is our children suffer. Stop blaming him and realize we allowed a few malcontents to influence a Board decision that affects all of us. Shame on us. Lesson learned: run through fire for someone who will do the same for you.

Has anyone heard of the tide 2.0?

Yes, Tide had over 20 D1 commits, and many D2 and D3.

Farmingdale team did very well down at Hotbeds

Yes, Long Island Tide is a phenomenal organization. My son played for the original and only 2017 team. Coach is in it for all the right reason, purely the love of the sport, the competition and the boys. My son played all through HS and it was the best decision ever. Majority of the boys on team all went to D1 schools. Coach Kaffl is starting again for 2020 and 2021.
I would recommend anyone looking for a solid team, and a positive lacrosse experience to into The Long Island Tide. Wish we were still playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale team did very well down at Hotbeds

Yes they did. Playing together over the summer will help them during the school season. The coaches are committed to making that program better. There are a bunch of high school programs that should take some lessons from the programs that play together over the summer. It is definitely be beneficial.

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the Syo NPD who feels I am not busy enough, FYI I just started a not for profit. Our main focus is finding pants for young men whose daddy's refuse to provide them as they exit the locker room. If you have any lightly used pants, sweats or shorts please send them to PO Box No Pants, Syosset, NY.

Great!

While your at it can you try to get some panties for ur wife. She keeps leaving hers in our landscaper's truck...

BBBUUURRRNNNNNN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

What is the team name for 2023-2022. On the the tourney machine website it says 2023-24 boys are 0-2. Is the team you are referring to the Upstate team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale team did very well down at Hotbeds

Very well ??? Unless you call playing kids up to 4 years younger well...

They played two 2020 teams and one 2021 team...

LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the Syo NPD who feels I am not busy enough, FYI I just started a not for profit. Our main focus is finding pants for young men whose daddy's refuse to provide them as they exit the locker room. If you have any lightly used pants, sweats or shorts please send them to PO Box No Pants, Syosset, NY.

Great!

While your at it can you try to get some panties for ur wife. She keeps leaving hers in our landscaper's truck...

BBBUUURRRNNNNNN

Hahahaha, good one NPD! You got me good! You should probably fire the landscaper though, maybe your son can see his dad do something masculine. He certainly has never seen you do anything like protect him in his time of need and keep his dignity in tact. You should run right over and show him this, tell him how you burned an anonymous guy on BOTC. He'll be so proud of you. That thing running down his cheek is called a tear, he's crying because you didn't have the balls to stand up for him when he needed you the most! Now go get em tiger!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

What is the team name for 2023-2022. On the the tourney machine website it says 2023-24 boys are 0-2. Is the team you are referring to the Upstate team?

If you did not know, one of the best teams to represent Li @ Brine was the 2019 group when in they were in the rising freshman grouping. If that group (plus a few) went each year, the Li team would win hands down! Maybe next year they get back in it if there is no other conflicts

wow, you guys are freaking brutal.

Unfortunately this event isn't what it used to be. Best players didn't try out and aren't attending. Look at UA results...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately this event isn't what it used to be. Best players didn't try out and aren't attending. Look at UA results...

People are starting to realize that these things are just a money grab. There are so many of them that people don't know what is good or not. The only 2 that get top talent are the UA and the Nassau/ Suffolk game. The UA is starting to lose its luster too because of the political nature. Either way the Brine did not attract much talent at all on Long Island.

Regarding the Brine National Lacrosse Classic;

2400 players from all over the country and Canada came to play.

My son was on the Long Island 2021-22 Team and the players on that team should be congratulated for attending the tryouts and going through the selection process to make the team that represented Long Island.
The boys played hard and lost to Virginia in one of the semi final games. Virginia then lost to a team from Carolina, which was comprised mostly of players from Team Carolina, that plays in the AA brackets. Carolina was the best team in this age group.

Now, back to the "talent".

Where were the boys with "more " talent?

Where the best boys?

Coaches know when this event is each year , so why schedule other events the same time as tryouts or events the week of the tournament, t prevent their players from trying out?

Were they forbidden to tryout by their club or school teams?

Was there a lack of interest playing for the Long Island Team?

If you took the top 25 boys ( my son probably wouldn't make that team and I'm ok with that) from Nassau or Suffolk, or a combo of them, no team in this division at that tournament would come close to beating that team!

Bottom line is, the team is picked from the boys who ATTEND the tryouts and the ones who wear the Long Island jerseys should be applauded, not criticized.

My son played hard, had fun and will tryout next year!

My son was one of the goalies on the 2017 Tide team. When he joined, he was unrecruited and would be a late bloomer. He received a lot of attention while playing for Coach Kaffl, and was named Suffolk County Div 1 Goalie of the Year and All County twice, on both 11th and 12th grades, and was All American HM as a Senior. He will be playing D1 at Stony Brook in the fall. As the OP stated, Coach Kaffl is an awesome coach, who's heart is in it for the right reasons and truly considers the boys family. My son has made lifelong friends on that team. If you have the opportunity to be a part of it, I suggest you do it.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

What is the team name for 2023-2022. On the the tourney machine website it says 2023-24 boys are 0-2. Is the team you are referring to the Upstate team?

Long Island 2023 went 6-0 and won in their age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son was one of the goalies on the 2017 Tide team. When he joined, he was unrecruited and would be a late bloomer. He received a lot of attention while playing for Coach Kaffl, and was named Suffolk County Div 1 Goalie of the Year and All County twice, on both 11th and 12th grades, and was All American HM as a Senior. He will be playing D1 at Stony Brook in the fall. As the OP stated, Coach Kaffl is an awesome coach, who's heart is in it for the right reasons and truly considers the boys family. My son has made lifelong friends on that team. If you have the opportunity to be a part of it, I suggest you do it.

I agree!! Very well said!!

Congrats to the 2023 Team from the 2021-22 Team, You did LI proud!

Additionally, Long Island Tide is all about family. Families traveling for weekend tourneys 5-6 hours away....who actually GET TO WATCH YOUR KID PLAY. Don't understand how others continue to pay thousands of dollars. give up your weekends, time and time again...to watch your kid stand on the sidelines. Crazy.
LI Tide was the best choice we made for our 2017. So lucky we the option!

Well said?
Ten items about her kid with coaches name in it
Nice job uvk

What?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well said?
Ten items about her kid with coaches name in it
Nice job uvk

English please...??

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to the 2023 Team from the 2021-22 Team, You did LI proud![/quote

Are you implying the 2023 team was playing with older kids on the roster? Sorry but you are flat out wrong, they are legit 2023.

The Sachem North and Sachem East Coaches have been appointed! Will that program(s) ever get back on its feet???

That's a great question.....sadly the answer is no

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to the 2023 Team from the 2021-22 Team, You did LI proud![/quote

Are you implying the 2023 team was playing with older kids on the roster? Sorry but you are flat out wrong, they are legit 2023.

I was just congratulating the boys on the 2023 Team for winning it all. Congrats from the 2021-22 Team to the 2023 Team, it's quite simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Congrats to the 2023 Team from the 2021-22 Team, You did LI proud![/quote

Are you implying the 2023 team was playing with older kids on the roster? Sorry but you are flat out wrong, they are legit 2023.

I was just congratulating the boys on the 2023 Team for winning it all. Congrats from the 2021-22 Team to the 2023 Team, it's quite simple.

2023?? We talk HS here! Tell someone who cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

LINY went 4-0 and lost to Ontario with mainly 2022 players on the team. They did what the Long Island Team refused to do. Played as a team. Long Island could have beat any of the teams, but it was way too much "Me ball". The other teams that LINY played couldn't believe that the team was made up of 12 and 13 year olds. The size difference was noticeable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

LINY went 4-0 and lost to Ontario with mainly 2022 players on the team. They did what the Long Island Team refused to do. Played as a team. Long Island could have beat any of the teams, but it was way too much "Me ball". The other teams that LINY played couldn't believe that the team was made up of 12 and 13 year olds. The size difference was noticeable.

Please stop. You have no idea what you are talking about. How many 12 year olds were on LINY? Two? Who did LINY play? Not one legitimate team. Only good teams in the entire tournament were Carolina and Virginia. They made the finals because they were more talented. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

LINY went 4-0 and lost to Ontario with mainly 2022 players on the team. They did what the Long Island Team refused to do. Played as a team. Long Island could have beat any of the teams, but it was way too much "Me ball". The other teams that LINY played couldn't believe that the team was made up of 12 and 13 year olds. The size difference was noticeable.

Please stop. You have no idea what you are talking about. How many 12 year olds were on LINY? Two? Who did LINY play? Not one legitimate team. Only good teams in the entire tournament were Carolina and Virginia. They made the finals because they were more talented. Simple as that.

Was your kid on LINY? No. There were 5 12 year olds on the team, and only 2 14 year olds. Team Carolina was by far the best team, and part of the reason is that it was Team Carolina. It was the equivalent of Black Ice or Blaze going down as team Long Island. Long Island should have beat Virginia, but they didn't move the ball as well because they were selfish. LINY also played with a special needs player who was on the team as a mascot, and the coach played him with equal time. That was the difference in the Ontario game. Not that LINY would have had a chance against Carolina. That team was the favorite from day one. Great team, excellent talent, and they were running set plays that they had practiced for months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Boys not doing so well at Brine this year after day 1

2018-2020 are 0-2
2021-2022 are 0-2
2023-2024 are 0-2

2018-2020 are 0-2 Correct
2021-2022 are 0-2 Correct
2023-2024 are 2-0 Wrong
LINY 2021-2022 2-0 all Long Island boys with a different team name

LINY went 4-0 and lost to Ontario with mainly 2022 players on the team. They did what the Long Island Team refused to do. Played as a team. Long Island could have beat any of the teams, but it was way too much "Me ball". The other teams that LINY played couldn't believe that the team was made up of 12 and 13 year olds. The size difference was noticeable.

Please stop. You have no idea what you are talking about. How many 12 year olds were on LINY? Two? Who did LINY play? Not one legitimate team. Only good teams in the entire tournament were Carolina and Virginia. They made the finals because they were more talented. Simple as that.

Was your kid on LINY? No. There were 5 12 year olds on the team, and only 2 14 year olds. Team Carolina was by far the best team, and part of the reason is that it was Team Carolina. It was the equivalent of Black Ice or Blaze going down as team Long Island. Long Island should have beat Virginia, but they didn't move the ball as well because they were selfish. LINY also played with a special needs player who was on the team as a mascot, and the coach played him with equal time. That was the difference in the Ontario game. Not that LINY would have had a chance against Carolina. That team was the favorite from day one. Great team, excellent talent, and they were running set plays that they had practiced for months.

NOBODY CARES!!! ITS MIDDLE SCHOOL LACROSSE!!!

New [lacrosse] Sports Writers 2017 Boys HS lacrosse All-State Teams

Large School - Player of the year: Andrew McKenna, defender, Ward Melville
Small schools - Player of the year: Ian Laviano, attack, Cold Spring Harbor

http://www.newyorksportswriters.org/reference/boys_lacrosse_stars_2017.shtml

145 total players selected ( 49 Nassau/Suffolk )
large Schools first team - Thru 8th team
Small Schools First team - thru 5th team

Suffolk 23 Players
Nassau 21 players
St Anthony's 2 players
Chaminade 3 Players

anybody know of any box leagues that start up soon? high school age? Nassau preferably

yes , I do,
but I will not share with anyone who can possibly beat out my son for a free ride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes , I do,
but I will not share with anyone who can possibly beat out my son for a free ride.

If you find my son a box league i will give him a free ride to all the practices and games as long as it is not too far out of the way

ok 1313 mockingbird lane. 7 pm tonite.

1600 Pennsylvania Ave. 7 pm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes , I do,
but I will not share with anyone who can possibly beat out my son for a free ride.

If you find my son a box league i will give him a free ride to all the practices and games as long as it is not too far out of the way

great. give me a call, 867-5309 and we can arrange a carpool

ok...if you really have some box league info would you mind sharing? i saw a few posts but they were from last winter, and some from a few years ago.
don't worry, my son isn't getting a free ride anywhere lol
just wants to play some more this summer
appreciate any info
thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes , I do,
but I will not share with anyone who can possibly beat out my son for a free ride.

If you find my son a box league i will give him a free ride to all the practices and games as long as it is not too far out of the way

great. give me a call, 867-5309 and we can arrange a carpool

Jenny, Jenny, who can I lax with?
You give me a STX I can hold onto
I know you think I'm like the others before
Who saw your jersey and number on the wall

Jenny, I've got your number
I need to make you my box teammate
Jenny, don't change your number

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes , I do,
but I will not share with anyone who can possibly beat out my son for a free ride.

If you find my son a box league i will give him a free ride to all the practices and games as long as it is not too far out of the way

great. give me a call, 867-5309 and we can arrange a carpool

Jenny, Jenny, who can I lax with?
You give me a STX I can hold onto
I know you think I'm like the others before
Who saw your jersey and number on the wall

Jenny, I've got your number
I need to make you my box teammate
Jenny, don't change your number

Somebody started drinking early!

8 6 7 5 3 0 9 --- My son got a free ride, the other day, uber forgot to charge me... He is the FIRST 2020 with a free ride!!! whoo hooo, happy days are here again...

News 12 put out a who will the best player be for 2018.

Who do you have let's not keep it to the players they selected.

The Junior Middie/Attack committed too Hofstra on Pequa.

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Were appointments made from within or did they bring anyone in from outside the current programs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Does he even want to return? I've asked him and get very vague elusive answers. Something definitely needs to be done regardless.

You can never come back. He will be looking over his shoulder for the next knife. Time to move on

Anyone know who is the new owner is of BOTC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Does he even want to return? I've asked him and get very vague elusive answers. Something definitely needs to be done regardless.

Why would he want to return? He founded the program, built it through hard work and dedication into one of the top LI programs and a few unhappy parents and a spiteful Superintendent fired him for caring too much. Coach Doller, don't even think about coming back to Sayville lacrosse. All of the Townies can wonder why the program is god awful and a total non factor. My kids have graduated and they were both very lucky to have him as a coach and mentor. The adult Sayville community deserves the mediocrity they will be mired in but unfortunately the kids suffer and most still don't understand why the man was let go.

Sad state of affairs in Sayville and it was a self inflicted wound.

-does not sound promising

Dollar is a [lacrosse]

Why is Doller a [lacrosse]? He didn't play your boy enough? That man put his heart and soul into the program and it paid dividends. The knock was that he only played 12-14 kids. Show me a high school coach who plays more than that. Including his replacement. At least Doller won. This past year on a team with 4 Division 1 and 3 Division 3 recruits,which is 7 out of 10 kids going onto play at the next level. They went 7-9. Mediocre at best! Guess what? Only 12 kids played. A previous poster is correct he's not coming back. Damn shame!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is Doller a [lacrosse]? He didn't play your boy enough? That man put his heart and soul into the program and it paid dividends. The knock was that he only played 12-14 kids. Show me a high school coach who plays more than that. Including his replacement. At least Doller won. This past year on a team with 4 Division 1 and 3 Division 3 recruits,which is 7 out of 10 kids going onto play at the next level. They went 7-9. Mediocre at best! Guess what? Only 12 kids played. A previous poster is correct he's not coming back. Damn shame!

My son played for him and taught him what it takes to succeed. Was he demanding? Yes, and thank god for that. He learned that nothing is handed to you, go out and EARN what you want. Mommy and Daddy won't always be there to wipe your azz. My son played in college and is now a successful professional. Thanks coach Doller, I'm glad your happy at Farmingdale and enjoying success there too. Stay the heck away from Sayville and the miserable whiny parents.

the problem with talent does have to do with scheduling of the tryout. I know that it's done when it is done with an eye on college coaches being able to attend after their seasons have ended.the problem with that is most Catholic highschool kids are smack dab in the middle of finals week. it's why my son and many others did not attend. we made the choice to put academics first. move the tryout to Friday night at least and Saturday for that matter, give them a little breathing room to study and you will see more talent on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the problem with talent does have to do with scheduling of the tryout. I know that it's done when it is done with an eye on college coaches being able to attend after their seasons have ended.the problem with that is most Catholic highschool kids are smack dab in the middle of finals week. it's why my son and many others did not attend. we made the choice to put academics first. move the tryout to Friday night at least and Saturday for that matter, give them a little breathing room to study and you will see more talent on the team.

I am assuming you are talking about UA tryouts, if so, I think that no matter when you have the tryouts you are going to have conflicts. In past years they had it on the weekend and it conflicted with public school state championships, players on the three teams playing missed the Saturday tryout and had to decide if they wanted to go a tryout the day after playing in a state championship game. if you wait for the next week or weekend you are already into summer schedule with teams and showcases. The tryouts were run by coaches from St A and Cham so they should have been aware of the potential conflicts.

The final roster for UA highlight had 8 Chaminade players on it and many of those boys are going to top academic schools so I think they were able to do both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News 12 put out a who will the best player be for 2018.

Who do you have let's not keep it to the players they selected.

What is your sons name?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News 12 put out a who will the best player be for 2018.

Who do you have let's not keep it to the players they selected.

What is your sons name?

my guess is not one of these

Alex Mazzone - Ward Melville
Mike Gomez - Hills East
Kevin Winkoff - CSH
Xavier Arline - Shoreham-WR
George Wichelns - Connetquot
Pete LaSalla - Rocky Point
JP Lannig - Syosset
Brennan O'Neil - St. Anthony's

who are they?and by back on their feet what do you mean?

Hills East Coach retired after Hot Beds. Maybe Dollar will be looking there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who are they?and by back on their feet what do you mean?

OK - I'll play the non sequitur game.....what's the purpose of living? What are we doing here?

too try to answer your question (not really) I am not sure "who THEY are, but you seem a little paranoid and usually when people have to "get back on their feet" it implies metaphorically that they have been knocked down figuratively not literally.

IE - Smithtown East took their season ending defeat hard, but don't worry they will get back on their feet and have a great season in 2018

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News 12 put out a who will the best player be for 2018.

Who do you have let's not keep it to the players they selected.

What is your sons name?

my guess is not one of these

Alex Mazzone - Ward Melville
Mike Gomez - Hills East
Kevin Winkoff - CSH
Xavier Arline - Shoreham-WR
George Wichelns - Connetquot
Pete LaSalla - Rocky Point
JP Lannig - Syosset
Brennan O'Neil - St. Anthony's

Somuch for not keeping to the ones that they selected

Massapequa took a big step forward today.

How?

finally gonna ditch the wife- beater undershirts?

Duke commit from Kellenberg coming back home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke commit from Kellenberg coming back home.

Unfortunately, the father comes with him.

That took long.

Have you met Radowski and Powers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you met Radowski and Powers.

Who is Radowski??

Its Radomski head coach for Pequa

Best lacrosse staff on the island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior Middie/Attack committed too Hofstra on Pequa.

No surprise. Hofstra or Adelphi usually

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News 12 put out a who will the best player be for 2018.

Who do you have let's not keep it to the players they selected.

What is your sons name?

my guess is not one of these

Alex Mazzone - Ward Melville
Mike Gomez - Hills East
Kevin Winkoff - CSH
Xavier Arline - Shoreham-WR
George Wichelns - Connetquot
Pete LaSalla - Rocky Point
JP Lannig - Syosset
Brennan O'Neil - St. Anthony's

Somuch for not keeping to the ones that they selected

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I guess you forgot
Albany
Army
Binghamton
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Wesleyan
Quinnipiac
Holy Cross
hopkins
Boston U
AND MORE IDIOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you forgot
Albany
Army
Binghamton
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Wesleyan
Quinnipiac
Holy Cross
hopkins
Boston U
AND MORE IDIOT

Another poster who doesn't understand how to use the "Quote" button . . . how hard is it to get that??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you forgot
Albany
Army
Binghamton
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Wesleyan
Quinnipiac
Holy Cross
hopkins
Boston U
AND MORE IDIOT

Another poster who doesn't understand how to use the "Quote" button . . . how hard is it to get that??!

Got it, your an [lacrosse]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Duke commit from Kellenberg coming back home.

why leaving kellenberg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you forgot
Albany
Army
Binghamton
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Wesleyan
Quinnipiac
Holy Cross
hopkins
Boston U
AND MORE IDIOT

Another poster who doesn't understand how to use the "Quote" button . . . how hard is it to get that??!

Got it, your an [lacrosse]

Maybe, but apparently you're just dumb!

What happened at Sachem, a boy died at pre season football practice?

First off prayers to the boy and the family of the boy who passed , but please pass on any notes that you may know to the community.

http://longisland.news12.com/story/...ncident-on-sachem-east-hs-athletic-field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Michael (Farmingdale)
LaSalla, (Rocky Point) he is way more than just a fogo - IMHOP one of the top players on the Island this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Michael (Farmingdale)
LaSalla, (Rocky Point) he is way more than just a fogo - IMHOP one of the top players on the Island this year

Carere (Connetquot)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Michael (Farmingdale)
LaSalla, (Rocky Point) he is way more than just a fogo - IMHOP one of the top players on the Island this year

Carere (Connetquot)

Pape (West Islip)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Michael (Farmingdale)
LaSalla, (Rocky Point) he is way more than just a fogo - IMHOP one of the top players on the Island this year

Carere (Connetquot)

Pape (West Islip)

Lasalla is a beast. In my opinion he is clearly the best. Not really a FOGO. May be the Best player on LI overall when you take into account that he is an 85% FOGO who may put up 100 points.

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

I would say the goalie is the most important player on the field. If you have a great team and a very weak goalie you cant hide the goalie. Any other position is easily hidden or subbed for. How many kids will just step in net. None especially at the high school level. At fogo you can just take a pole and put him against a strong fogo and try and neutralize them and make it a battle. If you have a goalie that cant save the ball and other teams know it you are in trouble

Clueless if you think FOGO is an unimportant position. Possession wins games. Once again someone trying to make a sport struggling to gain recognition less exciting. FOGo makes the game more exciting, possession equals goals. I am assuming your son plays for a team without a FOGO and therefore the team is losing, hence your desire to eliminate the position.

Easy we will get to each spot...
8/17 we will go with the best 6 Attack
8/24 we will go with the best 6 poles
8/31 we will do goalies
9/7 we will do the beat LSMs/DM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

Rediculous statement - there are plant of FOGOs that are great players, but are considered more valuable to have available for every faceoff. And there a number of great middies who happen be also be very good faceoff guys. And your over generalization is just that - a generalization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clueless if you think FOGO is an unimportant position. Possession wins games. Once again someone trying to make a sport struggling to gain recognition less exciting. FOGo makes the game more exciting, possession equals goals. I am assuming your son plays for a team without a FOGO and therefore the team is losing, hence your desire to eliminate the position.

Simplistic straw man argument. FOGO is over rated position. Put a good pole at the faceoff x and turn the faceoff into a ground ball drill.....exciting....sorry its not. I will take tough defenders/good goalie over a low skill FOGO......again GO....GET OFF. There is a reason they want the player off the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

Rediculous statement - there are plant of FOGOs that are great players, but are considered more valuable to have available for every faceoff. And there a number of great middies who happen be also be very good faceoff guys. And your over generalization is just that - a generalization.

As stated...FOGO is over rated. A "top" FOGO does not help a bad team.......FOGO's need a good team to be important. The spot should be eliminated. A good pole will neutralize most FOGO's (poor lax player). Sorry if the truth hurts. As far as exciting....cmon man...its a ground ball drill. Its happens all over the field all game long.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clueless if you think FOGO is an unimportant position. Possession wins games. Once again someone trying to make a sport struggling to gain recognition less exciting. FOGo makes the game more exciting, possession equals goals. I am assuming your son plays for a team without a FOGO and therefore the team is losing, hence your desire to eliminate the position.

Simplistic straw man argument. FOGO is over rated position. Put a good pole at the faceoff x and turn the faceoff into a ground ball drill.....exciting....sorry its not. I will take tough defenders/good goalie over a low skill FOGO......again GO....GET OFF. There is a reason they want the player off the field

I'll keep it simple for you...you're wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

Rediculous statement - there are plant of FOGOs that are great players, but are considered more valuable to have available for every faceoff. And there a number of great middies who happen be also be very good faceoff guys. And your over generalization is just that - a generalization.

As stated...FOGO is over rated. A "top" FOGO does not help a bad team.......FOGO's need a good team to be important. The spot should be eliminated. A good pole will neutralize most FOGO's (poor lax player). Sorry if the truth hurts. As far as exciting....cmon man...its a ground ball drill. Its happens all over the field all game long.

Ummm - if that was true, every big time team in college would put a pole on the FOGOs and they would be meaningless. Yet, the top FOGOs against the best competition continue to dominate and make their teams better. SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No disrespect to any of the FOGOs mentioned as I have only seen three or four of them play -

Pequa-great
SMW-great
WM-great
RP-great

Those kids are all really strong and I would hesitate to rank them but I am sure people here can. Each of those kids were instrumental in their team's success and can really take over an entire game.

FOGO is a hard position to rank and next to goalie, probably the most important position on the field for HS (of course a stud at any position is a stud) but a stud at FOGO in HS dominates a game. But, the HS stat line is really meaningless.

College FOGO ranking is easier, your team gets possession, you win...at that level, refs are 10x better at calling jumps and all the d-1 wings are strong and most of the FOGOs are strong whereas HS stats are sloppy at best and inconsistent depending on which kid is keeping the stats. Then consider wing play and the fact that the many of the HS teams don't even have a high level FOGO. Then consider that the refs are not trained at all-some call jumps, some don't. All boils down to the fact that it is just not possible to rank these kids in any meaningful way.

Head to head competition is the only way and even then, probably not reasonable unless the sample size is meaningful -2 or 3 games...

FOGO most important position on the field.....you realize you just contradicted yourself. The GO stands for GET OFF....why, because their lacrosse skills are sub-par. Stop with the FOGO non-sense. It should be eliminated as most cheat and are below average players.

Rediculous statement - there are plant of FOGOs that are great players, but are considered more valuable to have available for every faceoff. And there a number of great middies who happen be also be very good faceoff guys. And your over generalization is just that - a generalization.

As stated...FOGO is over rated. A "top" FOGO does not help a bad team.......FOGO's need a good team to be important. The spot should be eliminated. A good pole will neutralize most FOGO's (poor lax player). Sorry if the truth hurts. As far as exciting....cmon man...its a ground ball drill. Its happens all over the field all game long.

Ummm - if that was true, every big time team in college would put a pole on the FOGOs and they would be meaningless. Yet, the top FOGOs against the best competition continue to dominate and make their teams better. SMH

The teams with the 2 best fogos in college got eliminated in the semi finals of the national championship weekend go figure

FOGO's give you the chance to win. If you do not have the ball you have no chance of winning.

Just wondering. At the shootout for soldiers charity event ,where did the money go to in the B M memorial game. I'm guessing it was pocketed as it wasn't sanctioned by anyone related to the brave hero who protects us. And why can't he be left alone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FOGO's give you the chance to win. If you do not have the ball you have no chance of winning.

Hmmm ask Chaminade about that. They won almost every face off but lost to St. Ignatius.

Perhaps ask wm also, they won all the face offs and that was a big reason for their comeback in the state finals - at least that is what all the articles written about the game indicate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wondering. At the shootout for soldiers charity event ,where did the money go to in the B M memorial game. I'm guessing it was pocketed as it wasn't sanctioned by anyone related to the brave hero who protects us. And why can't he be left alone

I suspect it can't be left alone for that exact reason . His name is being exploited and the memorial will become nothing more than an easy way to make a couple bucks at the cost of his life, it's a shame, where does the money go?

College fogo in NCAA championship were among the best in the country - both md and Ohio have top notch players.

Can't win in this sport without a top fogo and top goalie.

NaySayers are living in the past. Whether or not you like fogo or face offs doesn't matter. For now they are one of the most important positions on the field and recruited accordingly.

The long pole against a top fogo is like the prevent defense in football. Sounds like a good idea, but it reality it is a recipe for failure.

1 Trevor Baptiste Denver Jr. 17 297 102 399 433 .744
2 TD Ierlan Albany (NY) Fr. 18 323 133 456 509 .708
3 Brady Dove Navy Sr. 14 169 85 254 310 .665
4 Jake Withers Ohio St. Sr. 21 275 150 425 486 .647
5 Dan Grabher Army West Point Sr. 15 186 110 296 352 .628
6 Gerard Arceri Penn St. --- 15 195 122 317 442 .615
7 Dylan Protesto Hartford Jr. 11 155 99 254 352 .610
8 Conor Gaffney Lehigh Fr. 12 139 89 228 322 .610
9 Noah Rak Massachusetts Jr. 12 148 96 244 335 .607
10 Conor Mackie Yale Jr. 16 246 162 408 433 .603
11 Ted Ottens Brown Jr. 16 270 182 452 488 .597
12 Peter Moran Richmond Sr. 16 185 128 313 319 .591
13 Alex Woodall Towson So. 17 188 131 319 347 .589
14 Will Vitelli Quinnipiac So. 11 119 83 202 268 .589
15 Kenny Massa Bryant Jr. 19 222 158 380 404 .584
16 Kyle Rowe Duke Sr. 17 214 153 367 450 .583
17 Trent Harper Air Force Fr. 18 178 129 307 406 .580
18 Graham Savio Loyola Maryland Sr. 16 204 149 353 385 .578
19 Danny Manning Saint Joseph's Sr. 14 149 110 259 311 .575
20 Will Beecham Mercer

OSU fogo #4-They lost to Maryland whose fogo was not in top 20
Denver fogo #1-How did they do again
Towson fogo #13
Albany fogo #2-Maryland spanks them.

Sorry, the idea that the FOGO position is of critical importance is not real. The stats/records etc just doesn't support that idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 Trevor Baptiste Denver Jr. 17 297 102 399 433 .744
2 TD Ierlan Albany (NY) Fr. 18 323 133 456 509 .708
3 Brady Dove Navy Sr. 14 169 85 254 310 .665
4 Jake Withers Ohio St. Sr. 21 275 150 425 486 .647
5 Dan Grabher Army West Point Sr. 15 186 110 296 352 .628
6 Gerard Arceri Penn St. --- 15 195 122 317 442 .615
7 Dylan Protesto Hartford Jr. 11 155 99 254 352 .610
8 Conor Gaffney Lehigh Fr. 12 139 89 228 322 .610
9 Noah Rak Massachusetts Jr. 12 148 96 244 335 .607
10 Conor Mackie Yale Jr. 16 246 162 408 433 .603
11 Ted Ottens Brown Jr. 16 270 182 452 488 .597
12 Peter Moran Richmond Sr. 16 185 128 313 319 .591
13 Alex Woodall Towson So. 17 188 131 319 347 .589
14 Will Vitelli Quinnipiac So. 11 119 83 202 268 .589
15 Kenny Massa Bryant Jr. 19 222 158 380 404 .584
16 Kyle Rowe Duke Sr. 17 214 153 367 450 .583
17 Trent Harper Air Force Fr. 18 178 129 307 406 .580
18 Graham Savio Loyola Maryland Sr. 16 204 149 353 385 .578
19 Danny Manning Saint Joseph's Sr. 14 149 110 259 311 .575
20 Will Beecham Mercer

OSU fogo #4-They lost to Maryland whose fogo was not in top 20
Denver fogo #1-How did they do again
Towson fogo #13
Albany fogo #2-Maryland spanks them.

Sorry, the idea that the FOGO position is of critical importance is not real. The stats/records etc just doesn't support that idea.

Did you look up the stats in the Maryland Quarters vs Albany, Semis vs Denver and Finals vs Ohio St. Here is the Bio on Jon Garino the 5th year Sr who was the key to Terps NCAA Championship. He's not ranked because he didn't take enough draws throughout the season. "won 12-of-14 faceoffs, including first seven attempts, and had eight ground balls in NCAA quarterfinal vs. #4 Albany (5/21) ... won 3-of-6 faceoffs in NCAA semifinal vs. #5 Denver (5/27) ... won 10-of-14 faceoffs, including 8-of-10 in the second half, in NCAA final win vs. #3 Ohio State (5/29)."

You my man are a moron who knows less than zero about the game and I would imagine your kid is a below average player with poor Lax IQ and plays for a crap HS and a crappier club team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Does he even want to return? I've asked him and get very vague elusive answers. Something definitely needs to be done regardless.

Why would he want to return? He founded the program, built it through hard work and dedication into one of the top LI programs and a few unhappy parents and a spiteful Superintendent fired him for caring too much. Coach Doller, don't even think about coming back to Sayville lacrosse. All of the Townies can wonder why the program is god awful and a total non factor. My kids have graduated and they were both very lucky to have him as a coach and mentor. The adult Sayville community deserves the mediocrity they will be mired in but unfortunately the kids suffer and most still don't understand why the man was let go.

Sad state of affairs in Sayville and it was a self inflicted wound.

The only way to bring back coach Doller is to organize the Sayville lacrosse parents to approach the school district to rehire Coach Doller. Everything else is a waste of time. We weren't there for him when needed most and now we NEED him back. Its time to make a concerted effort to request that the school district rehire Coach Doller to restore Sayville lacrosse to its former standing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 Trevor Baptiste Denver Jr. 17 297 102 399 433 .744
2 TD Ierlan Albany (NY) Fr. 18 323 133 456 509 .708
3 Brady Dove Navy Sr. 14 169 85 254 310 .665
4 Jake Withers Ohio St. Sr. 21 275 150 425 486 .647
5 Dan Grabher Army West Point Sr. 15 186 110 296 352 .628
6 Gerard Arceri Penn St. --- 15 195 122 317 442 .615
7 Dylan Protesto Hartford Jr. 11 155 99 254 352 .610
8 Conor Gaffney Lehigh Fr. 12 139 89 228 322 .610
9 Noah Rak Massachusetts Jr. 12 148 96 244 335 .607
10 Conor Mackie Yale Jr. 16 246 162 408 433 .603
11 Ted Ottens Brown Jr. 16 270 182 452 488 .597
12 Peter Moran Richmond Sr. 16 185 128 313 319 .591
13 Alex Woodall Towson So. 17 188 131 319 347 .589
14 Will Vitelli Quinnipiac So. 11 119 83 202 268 .589
15 Kenny Massa Bryant Jr. 19 222 158 380 404 .584
16 Kyle Rowe Duke Sr. 17 214 153 367 450 .583
17 Trent Harper Air Force Fr. 18 178 129 307 406 .580
18 Graham Savio Loyola Maryland Sr. 16 204 149 353 385 .578
19 Danny Manning Saint Joseph's Sr. 14 149 110 259 311 .575
20 Will Beecham Mercer

OSU fogo #4-They lost to Maryland whose fogo was not in top 20
Denver fogo #1-How did they do again
Towson fogo #13
Albany fogo #2-Maryland spanks them.

Sorry, the idea that the FOGO position is of critical importance is not real. The stats/records etc just doesn't support that idea.

Did you look up the stats in the Maryland Quarters vs Albany, Semis vs Denver and Finals vs Ohio St. Here is the Bio on Jon Garino the 5th year Sr who was the key to Terps NCAA Championship. He's not ranked because he didn't take enough draws throughout the season. "won 12-of-14 faceoffs, including first seven attempts, and had eight ground balls in NCAA quarterfinal vs. #4 Albany (5/21) ... won 3-of-6 faceoffs in NCAA semifinal vs. #5 Denver (5/27) ... won 10-of-14 faceoffs, including 8-of-10 in the second half, in NCAA final win vs. #3 Ohio State (5/29)."

You my man are a moron who knows less than zero about the game and I would imagine your kid is a below average player with poor Lax IQ and plays for a crap HS and a crappier club team.

MD won the faceoffs 11-8 hardly overwhelming. MD Won GB 33-25....now that's more important. Your comment about the kid......you lose the argument there Jacka$$. Only losers make comments about kids. I will let my Ivy kid know he plays for and played on crap teams. Have a great day.

Not talking about academics and its great if in fact your kid is a verbal or attending in IVY (doubt it). The topic was the importance of face-offs in college lacrosse. But you can't float out there your kid is an IVY guy and that translates into good lacrosse or lacrosse knowledge, most IVY's stink so it's great for your kid and you but don't spew your moronic perceptions to the readers please. For the record Garino going 8/10 in second half verse the most dangerous face-off guy(a Canadian with sick stick skills) in college was huge. Btw were you at the NCAA finals or did you even watch it because Garino was the MVP of the Championship game..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not talking about academics and its great if in fact your kid is a verbal or attending in IVY (doubt it). The topic was the importance of face-offs in college lacrosse. But you can't float out there your kid is an IVY guy and that translates into good lacrosse or lacrosse knowledge, most IVY's stink so it's great for your kid and you but don't spew your moronic perceptions to the readers please. For the record Garino going 8/10 in second half verse the most dangerous face-off guy(a Canadian with sick stick skills) in college was huge. Btw were you at the NCAA finals or did you even watch it because Garino was the MVP of the Championship game..

Nice try....at half time score was 5-2 MD and the face-off battle....6-3 OSU at half. Moronic perception or fact???? Those are the facts. The only person spewing moronic perceptions is you stating the Ivy league "stinks". But that's OK. Your insults only show your lack of ability to think rationally. Good luck to your FOGO son.

This is regarding the discussion regarding FOGOs. I believe many people base the importance of a FOGO on youth lacrosse. In the youth game a great FOGO can 100% change the outcome of the game. Most FOGOs are great athletes and at a young age they can dominate the game. They face off and play a large percentage of the game as a middy. As teams get better and as players mature a great FOGO gets the possessions but thats it. Usually coaches want to preserve their FOGO so that is why a vast majority are Face Off Get Off. Being a FOGO is one of the most physically and mentally demanding positions on the field. Thats why it is so rare to find a FOGO that takes every face off and plays a lot at an elite level. There are exceptions to the rule. Yet I dont feel as if a FOGO is the most important player on the filed. You can neutralize a FOGO with a great pole at the face off X. Once they get the ball they get rid of it. Yes there are some FOGOs that will go to net and score but again one adjustment by the other team dropping a wing man to the bottom of the defensive side to prevent the break. You cant neutralize a goalie. A goalie has to be able to save the ball. If a FOGO doesnt win his face off there are the midfielders and the defense that the other team needs to get through before they can actually score. If a goalie doesn't do his job its a goal. Give me a team that has a great FOGO and a bad goalie and you will see them lose more than they win. Take a team with a horrible FOGO and a great goalie they probably win more than they lose. I will use the the St. Ignatius game vs Chaminade as an example. St. Ignatius lost almost every face off but won the game. If the faceoff was the determining factor Chaminade should have won by a lot.

Conversation started as a simple idea-original poster asked which returning players would help their teams-fogo was the first position to be discussed-about 7 or 8 boys were mentioned by name.

Then the guy with the ivy kid decided to derail the conversation and spew on about all the low skill cheating fogos...what was funny about this -lets call him "IVY" guy-gets all offended when someone picks on his ivy kid-a kid that wasn't named, all while he is calling the 7 or 8 kids that were named, low skill cheaters...

a sure sign of an insecure adult. suspect his kid wont ever be mentioned in the weeks to come because his kid is just not that good. suspect their is no IVY verbal. Ivy guy is likely a person complaining that his son should be playing more but for local politics and bad coaches and bad parents...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Conversation started as a simple idea-original poster asked which returning players would help their teams-fogo was the first position to be discussed-about 7 or 8 boys were mentioned by name.

Then the guy with the ivy kid decided to derail the conversation and spew on about all the low skill cheating fogos...what was funny about this -lets call him "IVY" guy-gets all offended when someone picks on his ivy kid-a kid that wasn't named, all while he is calling the 7 or 8 kids that were named, low skill cheaters...

a sure sign of an insecure adult. suspect his kid wont ever be mentioned in the weeks to come because his kid is just not that good. suspect their is no IVY verbal. Ivy guy is likely a person complaining that his son should be playing more but for local politics and bad coaches and bad parents...

Huh???.......what are you talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Conversation started as a simple idea-original poster asked which returning players would help their teams-fogo was the first position to be discussed-about 7 or 8 boys were mentioned by name.

Then the guy with the ivy kid decided to derail the conversation and spew on about all the low skill cheating fogos...what was funny about this -lets call him "IVY" guy-gets all offended when someone picks on his ivy kid-a kid that wasn't named, all while he is calling the 7 or 8 kids that were named, low skill cheaters...

a sure sign of an insecure adult. suspect his kid wont ever be mentioned in the weeks to come because his kid is just not that good. suspect their is no IVY verbal. Ivy guy is likely a person complaining that his son should be playing more but for local politics and bad coaches and bad parents...

Huh?????....what are you blabbing about

Face off is highly important. The person trying to minimize that fact is missing the point. The more possessions your team has the more chances they are going to have to score. There is no debate. Are there statistical outliers where teams have won and not had a dominant face off guy, sure...but fact remains the same.

And for the jerk who made all the assumptions about some guys son, grow up. You are way off topic and there really is no logical connections for you to make those assumptions to begin with. Stick with your strong F/O argument.

Excellent point-yes, my comment was in poor taste- apologies to ivy guy's kid...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Conversation started as a simple idea-original poster asked which returning players would help their teams-fogo was the first position to be discussed-about 7 or 8 boys were mentioned by name.

Then the guy with the ivy kid decided to derail the conversation and spew on about all the low skill cheating fogos...what was funny about this -lets call him "IVY" guy-gets all offended when someone picks on his ivy kid-a kid that wasn't named, all while he is calling the 7 or 8 kids that were named, low skill cheaters...

a sure sign of an insecure adult. suspect his kid wont ever be mentioned in the weeks to come because his kid is just not that good. suspect their is no IVY verbal. Ivy guy is likely a person complaining that his son should be playing more but for local politics and bad coaches and bad parents...

Huh?????....what are you blabbing about

Try and keep up . . .

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - I personally do not like the face off winning percentage because a lot of "draws" are controlled by one guy but for a verity of reasons (wing play, - missed ground ball - controlling the draw but sending the ball to the wrong area) - a great fogo is like pornography you can't always define it but you know it when you see it. If fogo "A" wins 50% but they are all clean wins that lead to breakaways and scoring opportunities and fogo "B" wins 56% but every face off is a battle and a ground ball war and usually picked up by his wing who is the better FOGO? I would bet most coaches would rather have the guy that is creating a bunch of scoring opportunities.

Another part of the equation is when is he winning and losing his face offs? is he stopping momentum? is he leading a comeback? does he go 70% in the first quarter and then 30% in the fourth when he has been figured out? Also what kind of tempo does his team like to play? a grinding defense may not depend as much on a fogo as a run and gun team that is getting into shoot outs and have a lot more face offs in a game.

All I am trying to say it that face off is a very important position but any argument made about how important or unimportant can have to valid arguments with no right or wrong answer just opinions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills East Coach retired after Hot Beds. Maybe Dollar will be looking there.

Anyone know who is applying for HHH HS
East Varsity Coaching job? Hodg$on is leaving after 20+ years. Great coach, strong program. They need another good coach to apply and take over that program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - I personally do not like the face off winning percentage because a lot of "draws" are controlled by one guy but for a verity of reasons (wing play, - missed ground ball - controlling the draw but sending the ball to the wrong area) - a great fogo is like pornography you can't always define it but you know it when you see it. If fogo "A" wins 50% but they are all clean wins that lead to breakaways and scoring opportunities and fogo "B" wins 56% but every face off is a battle and a ground ball war and usually picked up by his wing who is the better FOGO? I would bet most coaches would rather have the guy that is creating a bunch of scoring opportunities.

Another part of the equation is when is he winning and losing his face offs? is he stopping momentum? is he leading a comeback? does he go 70% in the first quarter and then 30% in the fourth when he has been figured out? Also what kind of tempo does his team like to play? a grinding defense may not depend as much on a fogo as a run and gun team that is getting into shoot outs and have a lot more face offs in a game.

All I am trying to say it that face off is a very important position but any argument made about how important or unimportant can have to valid arguments with no right or wrong answer just opinions.

Lacrosse is generally a possession game - faceoff wins lead to possession, and you cannot score without the ball. No coach will turn down an opportunity for increased possession, easily won or hard fought!

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

He couldn't carry the ball in the back of his stick because it's illegal. Some days guys just don't match up well with their opponent at the X that's why it's important to have multiple players who can face off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

Enjoy watching other parents players play college lax and make believe your kid is playing. See ya

I have a college fogo and very much enjoy watching him play...better than that-so do his teammates. gets to score, gets ground balls and guess what, even gets to play defense sometimes when losing a draw.

whether or not parents here like the position or the rules, I can tell you that all the coaches that recruited mine like fogo and the team respects the contribution and the work ethic.

Something you might not be aware of and is not on topic-but-for the rest it might be of interest-

of the 45 man roster, average 15 play consistently with another 3 much more sporadic based upon match ups. But I will humor the last commentator and say another 5-10 kids out of 45 may actually play in a game or two for a few minutes during the year-when the team is winning or losing by a substantial amount.

another tidbit-

-not every kid that is on the 45 man roster even gets to travel. several schools (not all but several) only travel with 35, which means 10 boys don't even get to go...hotel rooms and flights and meals and per Diem add up and not all boys get to go on the trip.

then you have the schools with 50 + kids and the travel with the team and playing time gets worse. sorry folks-d-1 lax isn't all butterflies and rainbows. kids have a full time job and are expected to act like it even if they don't step on the field during a real game.

unless your kid is a stud-or is special and blossoms late and becomes a stud-

about half of all d-1 lax parents are watching other parent's kids play. And for some schools (not all), if your kid is on the bottom of the depth chart, you don't even get to travel to watch...

but go ahead-pick on my fogo and his value or lack thereof. He having the time of his life and I am enjoying watching...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

unless your kid is a stud-or is special and blossoms late and becomes a stud-

about half of all d-1 lax parents are watching other parent's kids play. And for some schools (not all), if your kid is on the bottom of the depth chart, you don't even get to travel to watch...

but go ahead-pick on my fogo and his value or lack thereof. He having the time of his life and I am enjoying watching...

great post - enjoy watching your son, it goes by fast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

Enjoy watching other parents players play college lax and make believe your kid is playing. See ya

Hey IVY guy come to College Park on Sept.30 and watch OUR kids get a ring and see how we watch and root for other parents kids.You are an absolute tool who I can't fathom has a kid going D1 IVY and you will see how quick you or your kid gets chased from the school if the coach sees what a jerk you are.
'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

Enjoy watching other parents players play college lax and make believe your kid is playing. See ya

Hey IVY guy come to College Park on Sept.30 and watch OUR kids get a ring and see how we watch and root for other parents kids.You are an absolute tool who I can't fathom has a kid going D1 IVY and you will see how quick you or your kid gets chased from the school if the coach sees what a jerk you are.
'

Ok Fantasy guy.....Mr Roarke and Tattoo called. Your little College Park fantasy is over. Be honest, you wouldn't know a PAL championship from a National Championship. And who is we, oh I know, its you and the mouse in your pocket that took your little drive to the game. I'm sure you wear all your make believe swag and have the little stickers on your car. Speaking of tools....How was talking lax by the water fountain??. Are you the authority there like you pretend to be here. Probably not....your the loudmouth expert on the sidelines of PAL games telling everyone who is forced to listen to you about all you know. Go away troll and take your meds and put the ipad away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

He couldn't carry the ball in the back of his stick because it's illegal. Some days guys just don't match up well with their opponent at the X that's why it's important to have multiple players who can face off.

Great point, the MD fogo who beat Withers handily was actually the backup to the Northport kid, who didn't have a great year, just had a tough time, not that he's not good. There is just so much people don't understand about this position. It's extremely mental. Look at Baptiste who choked when his team needed him, and Ireland who was owned by Mackie. These fogos are all the heart of their teams, the way they play often is the difference of winning or losing. A lot of pressure for a young man. Please respect them win or lose, nobody on the team works harder! You should also know that there is a great deal of respect these young men have for each other, most of them are friends off the field and even practice together during the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of the day the MVP of the NCAA Championship game was a face off midfielder from Maryland and may I add not a carry the ball in the back of his stick guy or even a one knee guy. It has been said in face off circles "what was old is new again" so the traditionalists of the game can rest assured the face off midfielder must be able to pick up a ground ball. As for the IVY guy your really just a tool who has little or no concept of what wins or losses games at the college level and until your alleged IVY son plays in a D1 setting keep it down to a hush because the parents of the supposed IVY school will not want to hear your drivel in the stands.

Enjoy watching other parents players play college lax and make believe your kid is playing. See ya

Hey IVY guy come to College Park on Sept.30 and watch OUR kids get a ring and see how we watch and root for other parents kids.You are an absolute tool who I can't fathom has a kid going D1 IVY and you will see how quick you or your kid gets chased from the school if the coach sees what a jerk you are.
'

Ok Fantasy guy.....Mr Roarke and Tattoo called. Your little College Park fantasy is over. Be honest, you wouldn't know a PAL championship from a National Championship. And who is we, oh I know, its you and the mouse in your pocket that took your little drive to the game. I'm sure you wear all your make believe swag and have the little stickers on your car. Speaking of tools....How was talking lax by the water fountain??. Are you the authority there like you pretend to be here. Probably not....your the loudmouth expert on the sidelines of PAL games telling everyone who is forced to listen to you about all you know. Go away troll and take your meds and put the ipad away.

Send your address to the moderator and I will gladly buy you a seat for the alumni game and the ring ceremony luncheon
and we will see who the fraud is IVY guy. In College Park it is never ME it's WE and that goes for the parents too who cheer and root for each others kids. You are a bad guy and I feel sorry for the parents where your kid ends up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Does he even want to return? I've asked him and get very vague elusive answers. Something definitely needs to be done regardless.

Why would he want to return? He founded the program, built it through hard work and dedication into one of the top LI programs and a few unhappy parents and a spiteful Superintendent fired him for caring too much. Coach Doller, don't even think about coming back to Sayville lacrosse. All of the Townies can wonder why the program is god awful and a total non factor. My kids have graduated and they were both very lucky to have him as a coach and mentor. The adult Sayville community deserves the mediocrity they will be mired in but unfortunately the kids suffer and most still don't understand why the man was let go.

Sad state of affairs in Sayville and it was a self inflicted wound.

The only way to bring back coach Doller is to organize the Sayville lacrosse parents to approach the school district to rehire Coach Doller. Everything else is a waste of time. We weren't there for him when needed most and now we NEED him back. Its time to make a concerted effort to request that the school district rehire Coach Doller to restore Sayville lacrosse to its former standing.

Is anyone willing to organize support to bring back Coach Doller, they guy won't beg for his job back. Or, will everyone in Sayville continue to whine about how it was a HUGE mistake to hire another coach? What's it going to be? Get proactive and restore (hopefully if he accepts a rehire) Sayville's lacrosse tradition or [lacrosse] and moan for the next 10 years? What's it going to be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville Lacrosse, if you watched summer ball this season you know we are totally screwed. The kids are demoralized, the fighting spirit and tough minded play exemplified over the years is long gone. Does anyone in town care? Bring back Coach Doller before its too late.

Does he even want to return? I've asked him and get very vague elusive answers. Something definitely needs to be done regardless.

Why would he want to return? He founded the program, built it through hard work and dedication into one of the top LI programs and a few unhappy parents and a spiteful Superintendent fired him for caring too much. Coach Doller, don't even think about coming back to Sayville lacrosse. All of the Townies can wonder why the program is god awful and a total non factor. My kids have graduated and they were both very lucky to have him as a coach and mentor. The adult Sayville community deserves the mediocrity they will be mired in but unfortunately the kids suffer and most still don't understand why the man was let go.

Sad state of affairs in Sayville and it was a self inflicted wound.

The only way to bring back coach Doller is to organize the Sayville lacrosse parents to approach the school district to rehire Coach Doller. Everything else is a waste of time. We weren't there for him when needed most and now we NEED him back. Its time to make a concerted effort to request that the school district rehire Coach Doller to restore Sayville lacrosse to its former standing.

Is anyone willing to organize support to bring back Coach Doller, they guy won't beg for his job back. Or, will everyone in Sayville continue to whine about how it was a HUGE mistake to hire another coach? What's it going to be? Get proactive and restore (hopefully if he accepts a rehire) Sayville's lacrosse tradition or [lacrosse] and moan for the next 10 years? What's it going to be?

Not happening, can't spend your career waiting for the axe to fall again. Its over, look for a new guy?

Why is it all the coaches fault that Sayville is no good. I do believe that it still takes hard work, determination and talent to win!! You cannot just say because the past teams were good that the team should always be good. Maybe the talent is just not there. Sayville has and had a lot of tough athletic kids in the past. Maybe the past teams were very athletic and that any coach even a donkey from West Islip who never played the game in his life could do just enough to look good as a coach and line his pockets with Sayvilles money. MAYBE!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it all the coaches fault that Sayville is no good. I do believe that it still takes hard work, determination and talent to win!! You cannot just say because the past teams were good that the team should always be good. Maybe the talent is just not there. Sayville has and had a lot of tough athletic kids in the past. Maybe the past teams were very athletic and that any coach even a donkey from West Islip who never played the game in his life could do just enough to look good as a coach and line his pockets with Sayvilles money. MAYBE!!!!!

Do you live in Sayville? The talent is there. Line his pockets? Could you be any more misinformed? You must be one of the scorned who helped get him removed. You are entitled to your opinion but please try to come close to the truth. I have no doubt if money was the determining factor in his decision making, he would have walked away from coaching in Sayville long ago. I have yet to see a coach as committed to a program's success as Coach Doller. He founded the lacrosse program. "Do just enough to look good" Are you seriously question the mans commitment to the program and the players? My two sons would love to have a word with you to explain just what he meant to them and still does. How very sad, really.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it all the coaches fault that Sayville is no good. I do believe that it still takes hard work, determination and talent to win!! You cannot just say because the past teams were good that the team should always be good. Maybe the talent is just not there. Sayville has and had a lot of tough athletic kids in the past. Maybe the past teams were very athletic and that any coach even a donkey from West Islip who never played the game in his life could do just enough to look good as a coach and line his pockets with Sayvilles money. MAYBE!!!!!

Do you live in Sayville? The talent is there. Line his pockets? Could you be any more misinformed? You must be one of the scorned who helped get him removed. You are entitled to your opinion but please try to come close to the truth. I have no doubt if money was the determining factor in his decision making, he would have walked away from coaching in Sayville long ago. I have yet to see a coach as committed to a program's success as Coach Doller. He founded the lacrosse program. "Do just enough to look good" Are you seriously question the mans commitment to the program and the players? My two sons would love to have a word with you to explain just what he meant to them and still does. How very sad, really.

My town would kill for a coach like Doller. The group that had him removed are a bunch of fools. He ran a great program, he was dedicated and required that same dedication from his players. You couldn't ask for any more from the guy.

Can we please get this thread back on point....

We need to get back to trashing Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it all the coaches fault that Sayville is no good. I do believe that it still takes hard work, determination and talent to win!! You cannot just say because the past teams were good that the team should always be good. Maybe the talent is just not there. Sayville has and had a lot of tough athletic kids in the past. Maybe the past teams were very athletic and that any coach even a donkey from West Islip who never played the game in his life could do just enough to look good as a coach and line his pockets with Sayvilles money. MAYBE!!!!!

Do you live in Sayville? The talent is there. Line his pockets? Could you be any more misinformed? You must be one of the scorned who helped get him removed. You are entitled to your opinion but please try to come close to the truth. I have no doubt if money was the determining factor in his decision making, he would have walked away from coaching in Sayville long ago. I have yet to see a coach as committed to a program's success as Coach Doller. He founded the lacrosse program. "Do just enough to look good" Are you seriously question the mans commitment to the program and the players? My two sons would love to have a word with you to explain just what he meant to them and still does. How very sad, really.

My town would kill for a coach like Doller. The group that had him removed are a bunch of fools. He ran a great program, he was dedicated and required that same dedication from his players. You couldn't ask for any more from the guy.

As per Sayville, Doller was a great coach there, regardless of what you may think of him as a coach as far as Xs and Os is concerned he won, period! Sayville has talent and a great youth league so the pipeline keeps coming, ever wonder why people arent lining up to take the job?
You have the Connetquot, Bayport, entire Floyd staff, Longwood staff (sayville alum) all live in Sayville. You could put together a monster staff of Luce Megna Miller Deluca and Hayes that would easily rank as one of the best staffs around, but for some reason none of them is overly excited (or so Ive heard) about coaching the Golden Flashes even though they would be fully vested in the programwith kids coming up.....why is that?

I heard it was a board member that did not like Doller and he bounced him. I live in Nassau but know a few teachers in the district and they all said Doller was liked by all except the board member. They told me he was an excellent coach, unfortunate that one board member has that much authority. Good luck

Sayville has made it to the semi finals 2 years ina row, under the current coach. It's not like they are missing the playoffs. Don't over exaggerate the situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it all the coaches fault that Sayville is no good. I do believe that it still takes hard work, determination and talent to win!! You cannot just say because the past teams were good that the team should always be good. Maybe the talent is just not there. Sayville has and had a lot of tough athletic kids in the past. Maybe the past teams were very athletic and that any coach even a donkey from West Islip who never played the game in his life could do just enough to look good as a coach and line his pockets with Sayvilles money. MAYBE!!!!!

Do you live in Sayville? The talent is there. Line his pockets? Could you be any more misinformed? You must be one of the scorned who helped get him removed. You are entitled to your opinion but please try to come close to the truth. I have no doubt if money was the determining factor in his decision making, he would have walked away from coaching in Sayville long ago. I have yet to see a coach as committed to a program's success as Coach Doller. He founded the lacrosse program. "Do just enough to look good" Are you seriously question the mans commitment to the program and the players? My two sons would love to have a word with you to explain just what he meant to them and still does. How very sad, really.

My town would kill for a coach like Doller. The group that had him removed are a bunch of fools. He ran a great program, he was dedicated and required that same dedication from his players. You couldn't ask for any more from the guy.

The team this year had 4 Division 1 commits and 3 Division 3 commits. That's 7 out of ten starters going on to play at the next level. Probably more if you count the under classman. So there was talent. They went 7-9 . Mediocre at best. Coaching and motivation at the High school level means a lot. Every team on Long Island has good players .Commitment during the off season is lacking now. There are no off season practicing. No tournaments. Nothing! With Doller you had all of that. Look at the competition. They ALL do those things and it shows!

I don't know how any family that had boys play for Doller could have anything bad to say. He put more time into the program than any varsity coach around and treated our boys like his own. Our boys have graduated and had the pleasure and the fondest memories playing for Coach Doller. I know Coach Fleming and he is also a very nice guy. I don't think people are complaining about the new coach. I just feel our town would just like to restore Sayville Lacrosse back to how it was!

Organize a group to attend the next Sayville school board meeting and voice your feelings. Get a petition started. How can we allow a few with some power to ruin the lacrosse experience of our kids? Don't let this happen. Everyone hoped it would work out somehow, that Coach Doller would just ask back in. He's had success at Farmingdale U and may be on a different track now but our community needs to at least try to bring him back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville has made it to the semi finals 2 years ina row, under the current coach. It's not like they are missing the playoffs. Don't over exaggerate the situation.

The losses to SWR were embarrassing. Our record this year with that roster was nothing short of horrid.

We see the program in decline...the past two seasons were with most of Dollers trained talent and they still had some of their former coaches fire. You will see. The division that they were in was cut in half. That's why you saw team's that have never been in finals there (Islip, ESM , East Islip) This season was much easier. I would love to know who this guy is with all the negative BS and answers. No team should make the playoffs with a losing record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We see the program in decline...the past two seasons were with most of Dollers trained talent and they still had some of their former coaches fire. You will see. The division that they were in was cut in half. That's why you saw team's that have never been in finals there (Islip, ESM , East Islip) This season was much easier. I would love to know who this guy is with all the negative BS and answers. No team should make the playoffs with a losing record.

Funny thing, there were very few parents even whispering anything negative when my boys were playing for Doller and that was about playing time. Same BS as always, the few that complain have big influence because the rest of us remain silent. Its really time for action. One of my boys is coaching now and he has said over and over he just uses Coach Doller as the example for what to do, how to behave and the model for work ethic required. Has anyone even asked him if he wants to return or would be willing to return to Sayville?

Bring back Coach Doller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the Sophomores!! They are NOT the best players. The upperclassmen such as Wichelns, would be much more deserving.

I have been watching HS lacrosse for the last 20 years and have seen many, many really good players and a few on this list are really, really good and Wichelns is IMHO the best on the list....but, you only have one "Special" player on that list. One kid that can be in the same conversation with the best of the best players to come off of Long Island in the last 20 years and he is a sophomore this year.

I agree that Sophmore on the list is a very special one of a kind player.

Let's do a Thursday "throw around". Each Thursday I'll ask who is the best 6 At each position.

Let's start out with Face off's.

here are a few... that can help there teams
Sandoval
Patrakis
Giaquinto
Calderone

Michael (Farmingdale)
LaSalla, (Rocky Point) he is way more than just a fogo - IMHOP one of the top players on the Island this year

Carere (Connetquot)

Pape (West Islip)

Stop. Please

Thanks Coach we will keep it mind when we want some blowhard who has no lacrosse IQ what so ever

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

dude - stop yelling, your harshing my mellow.... Seriously, from my experience, hair follicle sample testing is only for Cocaine, Marijuana, Opiates, methamphetamine's, amphetamines, ecstasy, PCP. these are generally the things hair follicle test can show. The reason hair follicle tests are used is they also display pattern of usage and cannot be "fixed".

IMHO - If they were going to do wide scale testing on HS athletes I believe they would be testing for steroids, not the fun stuff. I also can not fathom a grant for the millions and millions of dollars it would cost to test all athletes, all sports across the state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

dude - stop yelling, your harshing my mellow.... Seriously, from my experience, hair follicle sample testing is only for Cocaine, Marijuana, Opiates, methamphetamine's, amphetamines, ecstasy, PCP. these are generally the things hair follicle test can show. The reason hair follicle tests are used is they also display pattern of usage and cannot be "fixed".

IMHO - If they were going to do wide scale testing on HS athletes I believe they would be testing for steroids, not the fun stuff. I also can not fathom a grant for the millions and millions of dollars it would cost to test all athletes, all sports across the state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

dude - stop yelling, your harshing my mellow.... Seriously, from my experience, hair follicle sample testing is only for Cocaine, Marijuana, Opiates, methamphetamine's, amphetamines, ecstasy, PCP. these are generally the things hair follicle test can show. The reason hair follicle tests are used is they also display pattern of usage and cannot be "fixed".

IMHO - If they were going to do wide scale testing on HS athletes I believe they would be testing for steroids, not the fun stuff. I also can not fathom a grant for the millions and millions of dollars it would cost to test all athletes, all sports across the state.

Like there isn't an Opiod epidemic out there, maybe the goal is to capture repeat usage. Not sure they are going after the roids of the 80's. Controversial at best, but the tests also capture pot usage, which would bastardized many schools.

I hear you on the cost, sounds prohibitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Please let us know your source for this info. I would personally be opposed to such a rule that would separate out the athletes from the general student body as it pertains to illegal drugs, It would penalize these athletes to standards not required by the general student body. IMHO the difference between a student and a student athlete as it relates to drugs would only be about PED - so if this is true, I would personally oppose any drug testing for student athletes except for PED..

HS Athletes do not get drug tested. If they get caught with drugs/alcohol, they can be kicked off the team, otherwise they cannot be randomly tested. College is a different story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Please let us know your source for this info. I would personally be opposed to such a rule that would separate out the athletes from the general student body as it pertains to illegal drugs, It would penalize these athletes to standards not required by the general student body. IMHO the difference between a student and a student athlete as it relates to drugs would only be about PED - so if this is true, I would personally oppose any drug testing for student athletes except for PED..

Students participating in any extracurricular activity in a school are able to be randomly tested - the US Supreme Court in 2002 expanded the power of public schools to allow for this. I would suspect that the grant is for random, spot tests, not all inclusive testing. The NCAA was doing this as early as back in the 80s as I had to submit to tests for two different NCAA sports two times in four years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Will never happen. The parents don't allow their kids to take state tests never mind taking a drug test. Who gets the results, how are results protected, how long are test results held...on and on. HIPAA, privacy rights do I need to go on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Please let us know your source for this info. I would personally be opposed to such a rule that would separate out the athletes from the general student body as it pertains to illegal drugs, It would penalize these athletes to standards not required by the general student body. IMHO the difference between a student and a student athlete as it relates to drugs would only be about PED - so if this is true, I would personally oppose any drug testing for student athletes except for PED..

Students participating in any extracurricular activity in a school are able to be randomly tested - the US Supreme Court in 2002 expanded the power of public schools to allow for this. I would suspect that the grant is for random, spot tests, not all inclusive testing. The NCAA was doing this as early as back in the 80s as I had to submit to tests for two different NCAA sports two times in four years.

Thank you, i agree with you that it would probably be for random testing, again though, it should be for general student body and not just for athletes or specific, sports, gender ect. personally I think they should start with the jazz club then the theater group and then the young republican.... and finally the lax bro's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Please let us know your source for this info. I would personally be opposed to such a rule that would separate out the athletes from the general student body as it pertains to illegal drugs, It would penalize these athletes to standards not required by the general student body. IMHO the difference between a student and a student athlete as it relates to drugs would only be about PED - so if this is true, I would personally oppose any drug testing for student athletes except for PED..

Students participating in any extracurricular activity in a school are able to be randomly tested - the US Supreme Court in 2002 expanded the power of public schools to allow for this. I would suspect that the grant is for random, spot tests, not all inclusive testing. The NCAA was doing this as early as back in the 80s as I had to submit to tests for two different NCAA sports two times in four years.

Thank you, i agree with you that it would probably be for random testing, again though, it should be for general student body and not just for athletes or specific, sports, gender ect. personally I think they should start with the jazz club then the theater group and then the young republican.... and finally the lax bro's

There is ongoing debate that a school can legally test without suspicion for the general student body - allowance for random testing of those participating in activities is already a given, legally speaking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Will never happen. The parents don't allow their kids to take state tests never mind taking a drug test. Who gets the results, how are results protected, how long are test results held...on and on. HIPAA, privacy rights do I need to go on.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on this - the general student body cannot be tested, but extracurricular activity participants can.

Supreme Court Upholds High School Drug Testing

June 27, 2002 at 3:26 PM EDT

A closely-divided court ruled 5 to 4 that the ability of schools to rid their campuses of illegal drugs outweighs an individual’s right to privacy. The decision allows schools to test students who participate in any competitive after-school programs for drug use, even without any particular suspicion of wrongdoing.

Previously, only student athletes were required to submit to drug testing due to a 1995 Supreme Court ruling that athletes had less of an expectation for privacy and schools had a right to investigate potential drug abuse problems.

The ruling came in the case of an Oklahoma high school student who competed on an academic quiz team and sang in the school choir. Lindsay Earls tested negative for drug use but sued over a testing policy she found humiliating and accusatory.

“We find that testing students who participate in extracurricular activities is a reasonably effective means of addressing the school district’s legitimate concerns in preventing, deterring and detecting drug use,” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in a majority opinion for himself, Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy and Stephen Breyer.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote that the testing program was “not reasonable, it is capricious, even perverse,” in a dissent for herself and Justice John Paul Stevens. Justices Sandra Day O’Connor and David Souter filed a brief, separate dissent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Will never happen. The parents don't allow their kids to take state tests never mind taking a drug test. Who gets the results, how are results protected, how long are test results held...on and on. HIPAA, privacy rights do I need to go on.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on this - the general student body cannot be tested, but extracurricular activity participants can.

I think it is a great idea. Whether they do or don't, why not put it out there that they can and may. Maybe somewhat of an added deterrent.

Either way, (real or not), parents, you think something is up, why not just go to your local drug store and get a test. If they haven't done anything whats the harm, especially if you do it in the privacy of your home. Act now, it's never too late, it's your kids for goodness sake.

and for those of you that know or allow your kids to drink, smoke, whatever, what are you waiting for, time is now to man up and be a parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Will never happen. The parents don't allow their kids to take state tests never mind taking a drug test. Who gets the results, how are results protected, how long are test results held...on and on. HIPAA, privacy rights do I need to go on.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on this - the general student body cannot be tested, but extracurricular activity participants can.

That's understood. What I believe isnt is....Boys/Girls Sports?? Equally?? Girls/Boys Band??.. Girls/Boys Theater?? Girls/Boys clubs??? All are extracurricular.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HEARD BOTH CHSAA AND NY STATE SECTIONS JUST GOT $$ FROM A GRANT TO DRUG TEST ATHLETES. USING A HAIR SAMPLE METHOD.

TRYING TO GET DETAILS, IMPACT COULD BE BEFORE CHRISTMAS MAYBE AS SOON AS OCTOBER.

Will never happen. The parents don't allow their kids to take state tests never mind taking a drug test. Who gets the results, how are results protected, how long are test results held...on and on. HIPAA, privacy rights do I need to go on.

The Supreme Court has already ruled on this - the general student body cannot be tested, but extracurricular activity participants can.

That's understood. What I believe isnt is....Boys/Girls Sports?? Equally?? Girls/Boys Band??.. Girls/Boys Theater?? Girls/Boys clubs??? All are extracurricular.

What is the be understood? If a school wishes to test any participants of extracurricular activities - ANY - they can choose to do so with no cause/suspicion. The only question here is whether the NYSPHSAA or the CHSAA are administering the tests, or if they will need the participating schools to do so in order to be eligible for play. I would suspect the later since the schools already have the legal rights to do so, whereas the NYSPHSAA or CHSAA would likely face a legal challenge on their right to do so. Either way, they can funnel the grant funds to the schools to do so. Without reading up on it, I also supect the grant will not allow for comprehensive - read: all sports - if that is true, then expect specific sports to be chosen as part of a 'test', both on the boys and girls side. Will that include lax? Who knows? But maybe since it is a common sport between both boys and girls.

Are there special rules for New [lacrosse] State?

Yes. Education Law section 912-a states that drug testing of students may only occur "upon the written request or consent of a parent of, or person in parental relation to, a child." If a student is 18 years of age or older, he or she can independently grant consent.

Additionally, the commissioner of education has held that if a parent refuses to give consent for such testing, a student may not be precluded from participating in any extracurricular activities.

So while New [lacrosse] allows suspicionless drug testing of students, it is limited to voluntary participation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there special rules for New [lacrosse] State?

Yes. Education Law section 912-a states that drug testing of students may only occur "upon the written request or consent of a parent of, or person in parental relation to, a child." If a student is 18 years of age or older, he or she can independently grant consent.

Additionally, the commissioner of education has held that if a parent refuses to give consent for such testing, a student may not be precluded from participating in any extracurricular activities.

So while New [lacrosse] allows suspicionless drug testing of students, it is limited to voluntary participation.

What you've cited is for testing the general student population - testing of participants in extracurricular activities is not as restrictive, IE, parental consent is not required. While the NYSSBA cites "extracurricular activities" on its site, it is NOT an opinion related to the allowable testing of activity participants, just that refusal of general population testing could not preclude participation.

Simple answer to your worries. Teach/tell your kids not to do drugs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We see the program in decline...the past two seasons were with most of Dollers trained talent and they still had some of their former coaches fire. You will see. The division that they were in was cut in half. That's why you saw team's that have never been in finals there (Islip, ESM , East Islip) This season was much easier. I would love to know who this guy is with all the negative BS and answers. No team should make the playoffs with a losing record.

Funny thing, there were very few parents even whispering anything negative when my boys were playing for Doller and that was about playing time. Same BS as always, the few that complain have big influence because the rest of us remain silent. Its really time for action. One of my boys is coaching now and he has said over and over he just uses Coach Doller as the example for what to do, how to behave and the model for work ethic required. Has anyone even asked him if he wants to return or would be willing to return to Sayville?

Bring back Coach Doller

Hey Sayville I have a great idea.... Why don't you let Dollar move on and think about getting another Coach. My recommendation would be to ask a few of the Connetquot Coaches. If you hurry you may be able to snag them before the season starts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple answer to your worries. Teach/tell your kids not to do drugs.

As though it is that easy . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple answer to your worries. Teach/tell your kids not to do drugs.

As though it is that easy . . .

A team is made up of many players each has its own role and impacts a team differently. It's not only your kid you need to worry about.

Uncertain but when you sign those consent forms to play HS sports do you lose your volunteer stance to say no.

Here is the issue, kid will test positive, parents will believe his story, parents will sue state/school district and get a stay on the whole thing. It will quietly go away.

High Schools will never test for steroids it is way to expensive.

We drug test our new hires privately, costs about 20 dollars a test. This is individual test not "group" testing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We see the program in decline...the past two seasons were with most of Dollers trained talent and they still had some of their former coaches fire. You will see. The division that they were in was cut in half. That's why you saw team's that have never been in finals there (Islip, ESM , East Islip) This season was much easier. I would love to know who this guy is with all the negative BS and answers. No team should make the playoffs with a losing record.

Funny thing, there were very few parents even whispering anything negative when my boys were playing for Doller and that was about playing time. Same BS as always, the few that complain have big influence because the rest of us remain silent. Its really time for action. One of my boys is coaching now and he has said over and over he just uses Coach Doller as the example for what to do, how to behave and the model for work ethic required. Has anyone even asked him if he wants to return or would be willing to return to Sayville?

Bring back Coach Doller

Hey Sayville I have a great idea.... Why don't you let Dollar move on and think about getting another Coach. My recommendation would be to ask a few of the Connetquot Coaches. If you hurry you may be able to snag them before the season starts.

I think the entire Sayville lacrosse community would agree the number one preference would be to rehire with sincere apologies the best coach, Coach Doller. Honestly, I still can't believe we allowed some dweebs to run off the most dedicated and best coach we could ask for. Insanity.

Bring back Coach Doller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple answer to your worries. Teach/tell your kids not to do drugs.

spoken like a true @$$ who has never been to a wake of a young person who has lost their battle with drugs, never been there to comfort family that was burying their teenage child, never been in group counseling or dropped a loved one at a rehab facility. Enjoy your perfect life and your perfect family and thank whomever it is you pray to for sparing you this heartache. The rest of us live in the real world and it is not that simple.

Please leave Coach Doller at Farmingdale State. My son has 2 years left there and he instantly became his favorite coach he's ever had. He respects all his players, is always teaching the boys something new and his work ethic is second to none! The thought that a school district let him go is crazy to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Simple answer to your worries. Teach/tell your kids not to do drugs.

spoken like a true @$$ who has never been to a wake of a young person who has lost their battle with drugs, never been there to comfort family that was burying their teenage child, never been in group counseling or dropped a loved one at a rehab facility. Enjoy your perfect life and your perfect family and thank whomever it is you pray to for sparing you this heartache. The rest of us live in the real world and it is not that simple.

Exactly! Why do you think half these kids do drugs? They're escaping the pressure you crazy parents put on them! if you think the majority aren't smokin and drinkin, you have your head up your [lacrosse],

Please stop we cannot take it Sayville Lacrosse really omg not happening. Maybe Football and QB's but not a hot bed for lacrosse just stop!

Thanks for saying what we are thinking

Football and quarterbacks? Wow. How many kids have actually gone anywhere ? And please don't just speak about 1 kid. When Sayville actually acknowledges that the 2 sports have had a symbiotic relationship the past 15 years then and only then will the 2 programs do well again. This is the same guy over and over again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football and quarterbacks? Wow. How many kids have actually gone anywhere ? And please don't just speak about 1 kid. When Sayville actually acknowledges that the 2 sports have had a symbiotic relationship the past 15 years then and only then will the 2 programs do well again. This is the same guy over and over again.

Its probably someone from a town we used to destroy in lacrosse. Hotbed? I would say any program with the track record of kids playing at the next level and our W/L record deserves to be called a pretty darn good lacrosse town. I agree, Football and Lacrosse have needed to coexist better in years past but now a few of you idiots have run off a coach that we desperately need back to right the ship. Sayville kids deserve better (no disrespect to Fleming). Someone make an effort to bring the guy back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football and quarterbacks? Wow. How many kids have actually gone anywhere ? And please don't just speak about 1 kid. When Sayville actually acknowledges that the 2 sports have had a symbiotic relationship the past 15 years then and only then will the 2 programs do well again. This is the same guy over and over again.

Its probably someone from a town we used to destroy in lacrosse. Hotbed? I would say any program with the track record of kids playing at the next level and our W/L record deserves to be called a pretty darn good lacrosse town. I agree, Football and Lacrosse have needed to coexist better in years past but now a few of you idiots have run off a coach that we desperately need back to right the ship. Sayville kids deserve better (no disrespect to Fleming). Someone make an effort to bring the guy back.

Not sure if true but I heard your former coach interviewed for a H/C position another HS in Nassau

Doubt that. He had plenty of offers at HS here in Suffolk. Plus I know he enjoys Farmingdale but who knows?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football and quarterbacks? Wow. How many kids have actually gone anywhere ? And please don't just speak about 1 kid. When Sayville actually acknowledges that the 2 sports have had a symbiotic relationship the past 15 years then and only then will the 2 programs do well again. This is the same guy over and over again.

Its probably someone from a town we used to destroy in lacrosse. Hotbed? I would say any program with the track record of kids playing at the next level and our W/L record deserves to be called a pretty darn good lacrosse town. I agree, Football and Lacrosse have needed to coexist better in years past but now a few of you idiots have run off a coach that we desperately need back to right the ship. Sayville kids deserve better (no disrespect to Fleming). Someone make an effort to bring the guy back.

Not sure if true but I heard your former coach interviewed for a H/C position another HS in Nassau

I heard he was offered a college job on the island, but who knows.

Please stop! You sound like a desperate 17 year old trying to get their first love back. Move on, Jesus he isn't ever coming back!

but he is sooooooo handsome.

Massapequa gets a '19 transfer to returns back to the Chiefs. That is huge for their run the next 2 years.
Ward Melville Smithtown West and Massapequa will be the talk of the town the next 2 years

thanks for the news Mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa gets a '19 transfer to returns back to the Chiefs. That is huge for their run the next 2 years.
Ward Melville Smithtown West and Massapequa will be the talk of the town the next 2 years

hurts a good kellenberg squad

talk of what town?...not mine...only time we talk about those towns is when we read the crime blotter in Newsday...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

talk of what town?...not mine...only time we talk about those towns is when we read the crime blotter in Newsday...

Ward Melville is not a town, just sayin'

Those towns are also represented by the self obsessed mommies who send in pictures of their kids playing to Newsday....No one cares....

'Quot HC is just Terrible....just sayin'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

talk of what town?...not mine...only time we talk about those towns is when we read the crime blotter in Newsday...

Ward Melville is not a town, just sayin'

Your an idiot

Don't buy the hype of Smithtown West....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa gets a '19 transfer to returns back to the Chiefs. That is huge for their run the next 2 years.
Ward Melville Smithtown West and Massapequa will be the talk of the town the next 2 years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

talk of what town?...not mine...only time we talk about those towns is when we read the crime blotter in Newsday...

Are you truly as stupid as you present yourself to be? Thank god your not from one of those 3 districts, you would bring the gpa down across the board and that we would read about in newsday...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't buy the hype of Smithtown West....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa gets a '19 transfer to returns back to the Chiefs. That is huge for their run the next 2 years.
Ward Melville Smithtown West and Massapequa will be the talk of the town the next 2 years

Why not? by your comments, it is selling cheap. buy buy buy Who do you put in their place? Atop of class A Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

talk of what town?...not mine...only time we talk about those towns is when we read the crime blotter in Newsday...

Ward Melville is not a town, just sayin'

Maybe, but they will be the talk of your town!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those towns are also represented by the self obsessed mommies who send in pictures of their kids playing to Newsday....No one cares....

Okay maybe, but what town doesnt have those, they are the better teams, the teams your child's HS team will have to go out and beat. every year there are those teams, who cares. Only 6 months away for those 18's

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

You are not from Pequa incoming 9th grade team is weak.

Pequa should be strong for the next 2-3 years. They can absorb a weak class.. and their weak class is stronger than most towns so shouldn't be an issue. And I am from Pequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa should be strong for the next 2-3 years. They can absorb a weak class.. and their weak class is stronger than most towns so shouldn't be an issue. And I am from Pequa.

Should is operative the word. Only time will tell. Give it a rest with your "predictions".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

You are not from Pequa incoming 9th grade team is weak.

You got that right - LV's roster of 18 boys jumped out to a 7 - 2 lead in the first half and beat Pequa's 40+ roster 9 - 6 this past season. Maybe that was more a testament to LV, but, if not, it was by no means an indication of a "strong" incoming 9th grade team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

6?? come on get real..I saw some kindergartners who will attend one day..They got it locked up 12 years easy!!

Pequa '20 nothing special either. No knock intended, just saying not an outstanding group as perhaps their 18, 19;'s are.

barring injuries or unforeseen scandal Pequa will walk through Nassau A this year and next. No one even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

barring injuries or unforeseen scandal Pequa will walk through Nassau A this year and next. No one even close.

Wow I hope your not from Pequa, because that's not how we roll.
We let the kids play to the talking.

Sounds like Massapequa should be the deserved #1 seed this year with Farmingdale looking to challenge and Syosset and Port in a toss up after that. Not much argument here from a fan of Nassau lax (no horse in the race...in A anyway...

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

Football and soccer season fellas.....relax

sounds like it? why because some pequa fan says so? Syosset team to beat until otherwise proven.

Farm system??? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

You are not from Pequa incoming 9th grade team is weak.

You got that right - LV's roster of 18 boys jumped out to a 7 - 2 lead in the first half and beat Pequa's 40+ roster 9 - 6 this past season. Maybe that was more a testament to LV, but, if not, it was by no means an indication of a "strong" incoming 9th grade team!

So do you think if Massapequa only had 18 players it would have been a closer game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

The Mustang idiots get all the good kids to hate football.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa will run away with Nassau this year and next. As a matter of fact Pequa has the next 6 years locked up, the farm system is legit and only getting better.

You are not from Pequa incoming 9th grade team is weak.

You got that right - LV's roster of 18 boys jumped out to a 7 - 2 lead in the first half and beat Pequa's 40+ roster 9 - 6 this past season. Maybe that was more a testament to LV, but, if not, it was by no means an indication of a "strong" incoming 9th grade team!

So do you think if Massapequa only had 18 players it would have been a closer game?

No - it would have been an even more lopsided loss!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

There are some good teams in C...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Massapequa should be the deserved #1 seed this year with Farmingdale looking to challenge and Syosset and Port in a toss up after that. Not much argument here from a fan of Nassau lax (no horse in the race...in A anyway...

Might as well not even have a league format if A is already spoken for but it wasn't so long ago that Pequa had a 34 game win streak and got humiliated in the County finals. All the pundits who don't know crap and live vicariously through 16 and 17 year old boys. JOKE !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like it? why because some pequa fan says so? Syosset team to beat until otherwise proven.

Um, the season has not started yet and Syosset finished third last year soooo, not really accurate. And Port is coming on strong this year so Syosset will probably be 4th, battling Oceanside for that spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

There are some good teams in C...

You can have CSH, the rest.....not so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like it? why because some pequa fan says so? Syosset team to beat until otherwise proven.

Um, the season has not started yet and Syosset finished third last year soooo, not really accurate. And Port is coming on strong this year so Syosset will probably be 4th, battling Oceanside for that spot.

There is no such thing as third and fourth place, you either win the semi final and go onto the county championship or you lose and go home since both teams that lose the semi final do not play each other their is no way to determine third or fourth place. Last year Syosset and Port lost in the semi finals making them semifinalist and that is all.

Pre-season seeding is based on players returning and not based on last years record so if I was going to seed the top 4 in A's it would be Massapequa 1, Syosset 2, Farmingdale 3 and Port Washington 4. and if this year is anything like the last few years the playoff semi finals will be the winner of the Syosset v Massapequa game will play the loser of the Farmingdale v. Port Washington game unless Farmingdale or Port can step up and beat Syo or Mass in the regular season game. IMHO Farmingdale will have the better shot as pulling that off.

Are you serious cold spring and no one else. 100% wrong on that. OK will none of them beat GC Manhasset and massapequa but I will put those teams up against all others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

There are some good teams in C...

You can have CSH, the rest.....not so much

LV will be better than CSH thsi season . . .

Wantagh and Bethpage will be very tough also. Bethpage only lost 2 starters. Returns all defense and middies and attack

Wrong on LV over CSH. There's 19's are better than CSH's but it won't matter. this year, next or the year after. '21 I'll keep my mouth shut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong on LV over CSH. There's 19's are better than CSH's but it won't matter. this year, next or the year after. '21 I'll keep my mouth shut.

I think LV's '20s are also better, so it will make a difference! The '20s and '21s as Srs and Jrs in '20 will be extremely strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like it? why because some pequa fan says so? Syosset team to beat until otherwise proven.

Um, the season has not started yet and Syosset finished third last year soooo, not really accurate. And Port is coming on strong this year so Syosset will probably be 4th, battling Oceanside for that spot.

There is no such thing as third and fourth place, you either win the semi final and go onto the county championship or you lose and go home since both teams that lose the semi final do not play each other their is no way to determine third or fourth place. Last year Syosset and Port lost in the semi finals making them semifinalist and that is all.

Pre-season seeding is based on players returning and not based on last years record so if I was going to seed the top 4 in A's it would be Massapequa 1, Syosset 2, Farmingdale 3 and Port Washington 4. and if this year is anything like the last few years the playoff semi finals will be the winner of the Syosset v Massapequa game will play the loser of the Farmingdale v. Port Washington game unless Farmingdale or Port can step up and beat Syo or Mass in the regular season game. IMHO Farmingdale will have the better shot as pulling that off.

So Syosset and Port finished even.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

There are some good teams in C...

You can have CSH, the rest.....not so much

LV will be better than CSH thsi season . . .

WHO CARES ABOUT THE "C" DIVISION. Big boys play in the "A".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau C is the power conference next year by far. Cold spring harbor, locust valley, wantagh, bethpage, lynbrook, north shore, and floral park. All very good teams next year.

There are some good teams in C...

You can have CSH, the rest.....not so much

LV will be better than CSH thsi season . . .

WHO CARES ABOUT THE "C" DIVISION. Big boys play in the "A".

Except when there are C teams better than A teams - CSH probably was the best team on LI last year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like Massapequa should be the deserved #1 seed this year with Farmingdale looking to challenge and Syosset and Port in a toss up after that. Not much argument here from a fan of Nassau lax (no horse in the race...in A anyway...

Might as well not even have a league format if A is already spoken for but it wasn't so long ago that Pequa had a 34 game win streak and got humiliated in the County finals. All the pundits who don't know crap and live vicariously through 16 and 17 year old boys. JOKE !

Like yourself? CLOWN

""I think LV's '20s are also better, so it will make a difference! The '20s and '21s as Srs and Jrs in '20 will be extremely strong."

In terms of LV's 20's being stronger than CSH's you are out of touch with the markets my friend. NOT EVEN CLOSE..

SWR, WM, Manhasset are in the conversation, that's it.

Smithtown if they were one school and Massapequa the next tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sounds like it? why because some pequa fan says so? Syosset team to beat until otherwise proven.

Um, the season has not started yet and Syosset finished third last year soooo, not really accurate. And Port is coming on strong this year so Syosset will probably be 4th, battling Oceanside for that spot.

There is no such thing as third and fourth place, you either win the semi final and go onto the county championship or you lose and go home since both teams that lose the semi final do not play each other their is no way to determine third or fourth place. Last year Syosset and Port lost in the semi finals making them semifinalist and that is all.

Pre-season seeding is based on players returning and not based on last years record so if I was going to seed the top 4 in A's it would be Massapequa 1, Syosset 2, Farmingdale 3 and Port Washington 4. and if this year is anything like the last few years the playoff semi finals will be the winner of the Syosset v Massapequa game will play the loser of the Farmingdale v. Port Washington game unless Farmingdale or Port can step up and beat Syo or Mass in the regular season game. IMHO Farmingdale will have the better shot as pulling that off.

So Syosset and Port finished even.

I would not say even, I would say they were both semifinalist, neither was third or fourth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

""I think LV's '20s are also better, so it will make a difference! The '20s and '21s as Srs and Jrs in '20 will be extremely strong."

In terms of LV's 20's being stronger than CSH's you are out of touch with the markets my friend. NOT EVEN CLOSE..

SWR, WM, Manhasset are in the conversation, that's it.

Smithtown if they were one school and Massapequa the next tier.

Do we really have to listen to 8 months about how LV is going to beat CSH etc...... when everyone knows they will lose like they do every year?????

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

Ohh stop little boy. Don't have a Napolean complex. It's a shame when your school is so small that you can't field a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side

lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

Pequa did pretty good in scrimmage last year, I would love to see a real game this year. CSH would not do it.

Heard the Sachem North coach is headed there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

""I think LV's '20s are also better, so it will make a difference! The '20s and '21s as Srs and Jrs in '20 will be extremely strong."

In terms of LV's 20's being stronger than CSH's you are out of touch with the markets my friend. NOT EVEN CLOSE..

SWR, WM, Manhasset are in the conversation, that's it.

Smithtown if they were one school and Massapequa the next tier.

Do we really have to listen to 8 months about how LV is going to beat CSH etc...... when everyone knows they will lose like they do every year?????

Like in 2014?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Could of , would of , should of - you lost stop with the excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Could of , would of , should of - you lost stop with the excuses.

If I was the coach of PW coming out that game, I would have been very unhappy . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Could of , would of , should of - you lost stop with the excuses.

If I was the coach of PW coming out that game, I would have been very unhappy . . .

but your not.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Could of , would of , should of - you lost stop with the excuses.

If I was the coach of PW coming out that game, I would have been very unhappy . . .

but your not.....

The day BOTC boards are limited to purely Ws and Ls is the day there is pretty much nothing to post. Those stats can be found by looking at online standings. Until then, about 99% of what is posted is all conjecture, and a lot of would of... you don't like, move on by...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Could of , would of , should of - you lost stop with the excuses.

If I was the coach of PW coming out that game, I would have been very unhappy . . .

If I were the PW coach I would have been embarrassed because I got out coached in the LV game and the North Shore game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Are you suggesting that HS lacrosse take on some sort of electoral college approach to results - don't count the final score for who wins but rather take an accumulations of various stats ?

well yes, PW did score more goals but LV won the key stat of a million shots that missed the cage (that equals approx. 347 shots missed the cage per second) so BOTC projects LV the winner.

You score more goals you win, this is 'Merica where those with the most goals win and those with the fewest goals post on BOTC about how they lost but were still the better team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Are you suggesting that HS lacrosse take on some sort of electoral college approach to results - don't count the final score for who wins but rather take an accumulations of various stats ?

well yes, PW did score more goals but LV won the key stat of a million shots that missed the cage (that equals approx. 347 shots missed the cage per second) so BOTC projects LV the winner.

You score more goals you win, this is 'Merica where those with the most goals win and those with the fewest goals post on BOTC about how they lost but were still the better team.

You're obviously not very knowledgeable about sports. If a team escapes with a win in a game that by all other rights they probably should have lost based upon the play, yes, the coach (and anyone else as an observer) acknowledges and accepts the win, but also realizes they didn't play well or were outplayed. You've obviously never coached, nor played at high level. I've done both, and with respect to the latter, I have had my [lacrosse] run into the ground probably the hardest by my college coach after WINNING games where we didn't play well, NOT after losing!

I don't think CSH is ducking pequa in any way shape or form- they've played the same non-conference schedule for years with the exception of the manhasset drop last year replaced by Smithtown West.

South Side, Syosset, Huntington, Manahssset (SW last year for ridiculous reasons) and two away Spring Break games.

they would have to break a long standing relationship/history of playing, spring trip or cross town rival.

I think that is why they scrimmage West Islip and Massapequa most years because they are great teams year in and year out.

As for LV in '14, they had a very good team in 14 and csh got out coached. So sure, conceivably lightening could strike again but I wwouldn't be on here ranting and raving about it like a heretic based on recent and long term history... let the play of the kids do the talking. CSH will take a step back this year, but not a monumental one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Are you suggesting that HS lacrosse take on some sort of electoral college approach to results - don't count the final score for who wins but rather take an accumulations of various stats ?

well yes, PW did score more goals but LV won the key stat of a million shots that missed the cage (that equals approx. 347 shots missed the cage per second) so BOTC projects LV the winner.

You score more goals you win, this is 'Merica where those with the most goals win and those with the fewest goals post on BOTC about how they lost but were still the better team.

You're obviously not very knowledgeable about sports. If a team escapes with a win in a game that by all other rights they probably should have lost based upon the play, yes, the coach (and anyone else as an observer) acknowledges and accepts the win, but also realizes they didn't play well or were outplayed. You've obviously never coached, nor played at high level. I've done both, and with respect to the latter, I have had my [lacrosse] run into the ground probably the hardest by my college coach after WINNING games where we didn't play well, NOT after losing!

Ok....you win the the stupidest reply on BOTC. You cannot really believe what you wrote. I guess Tom Brady and the Pats felt bad after winning against the seahawks (interception at goal line) and the falcons (historic comeback fueled by by terrible falcon coaching). Escape??? Beat up??? win by an little ???? Its about the WIN. And if you are a coach.....yikes !!!!

Well said. A win is a win, and as long as the scoreboard reads in your favor, does it really matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about the C lol. Many of those class C teams will beat up on many class A and B. It happened last year.

lets take this one at a time

CSH - IMHO the best team on LI last year
Beat - Syosset - South Side
lost -

Lynbrook
Beat - Oceanside - Hewlett - Baldwin
lost to - Farmingdale - Carey - Long Beach - South Side

Locust Valley
Beat - Mac Arthur
Lost to - Port Washington

No Shore
Beat - NHP - MacArthur - Mepham - Baldwin - Port Washington

so outside of CSH - your other three semi-finalist has one signature win vs. A's and B's last year it was No Shore beating PW.

LV outplayed PW and should have won that game - LV had a million shots that missed the net (and PW's G was great, but so was LV's). Not sure if that was a testament to LV or a knock on PW, but losing to them in a very close game that LV should of won seems significant based upon how many on BOTC revere them from last season. Beyond all of that, you are very limited in how how many non-Conference games you can schedule.

Are you suggesting that HS lacrosse take on some sort of electoral college approach to results - don't count the final score for who wins but rather take an accumulations of various stats ?

well yes, PW did score more goals but LV won the key stat of a million shots that missed the cage (that equals approx. 347 shots missed the cage per second) so BOTC projects LV the winner.

You score more goals you win, this is 'Merica where those with the most goals win and those with the fewest goals post on BOTC about how they lost but were still the better team.

You're obviously not very knowledgeable about sports. If a team escapes with a win in a game that by all other rights they probably should have lost based upon the play, yes, the coach (and anyone else as an observer) acknowledges and accepts the win, but also realizes they didn't play well or were outplayed. You've obviously never coached, nor played at high level. I've done both, and with respect to the latter, I have had my [lacrosse] run into the ground probably the hardest by my college coach after WINNING games where we didn't play well, NOT after losing!

Ok....you win the the stupidest reply on BOTC. You cannot really believe what you wrote. I guess Tom Brady and the Pats felt bad after winning against the seahawks (interception at goal line) and the falcons (historic comeback fueled by by terrible falcon coaching). Escape??? Beat up??? win by an little ???? Its about the WIN. And if you are a coach.....yikes !!!!

= never played at a high level!

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Sad news from Lafayette. http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...afayette-freshman-mccrae-williams/50456. Prayer to the Williams family.

Some Stats from Ty Xanders top 100 2018's

Colleges
Yale 7
Harvard 7
Maryland 6
Hopkins 6
Virginia 6
Duke 5
Denver 4
Mich 4
Navy 4
Princeton 4
Syracuse 4

States
NY 27 (9 LI)
MD 15
Conn 14
PA 10
Cali 6
Ohio 5

Position
Attack 22
A/M 12
Middy 29
F/O 6
D/LSM 24
G 7

Parents that think the list is good 100
Parents that think the list is BS 243,621

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

PW will move up the 1 ranks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PW will move up the 1 ranks

Is Port moving to Nassau Class E?

That's the only way they could be 1... Well unless there is another team in Class E, then Port would be #2...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

This sounds like a typical unhappy Syosset parent.

Syo still favored over Port...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

No dog in this fight, but did you just write, " You don't say stuff like that on BOTC."?? Obviously, you are new to this site because that or worse makes up 90% of everything posted on BOTC!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

No dog in this fight, but did you just write, " You don't say stuff like that on BOTC."?? Obviously, you are new to this site because that or worse makes up 90% of everything posted on BOTC!!

Sarcasm maybe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

No dog in this fight, but did you just write, " You don't say stuff like that on BOTC."?? Obviously, you are new to this site because that or worse makes up 90% of everything posted on BOTC!!

"Just tried to catch the spirit of the thing" - Dickie Dunn -

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

No dog in this fight, but did you just write, " You don't say stuff like that on BOTC."?? Obviously, you are new to this site because that or worse makes up 90% of everything posted on BOTC!!

"Just tried to catch the spirit of the thing" - Dickie Dunn -

Dickie Dunn wrote that. it must be true

Add me to the list of parents who think the list is a total joke. First and foremost, a whopping 9 players from Long Island make the list? 2nd, in his eyes, if you aren't coming from a big national travel program then you aren't worth considering. Plenty of players for one reason or another don't play in these programs and only play school ball. It definitely doesn't mean they aren't worth real consideration.

What list?ssss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many schools are loaded with quality 2018 players, WM, SYO, CSH, PEQA, Manhasset, etc. This coming season should be interesting, i don't see any team being undefeated at the end of the season, should be a lot of close games.

Syosset loaded with a bunch of mediocre, over-hyped, vaping brats. They will lose every non league game in 2018 and will not make it to the Nassau finals.

Coaching staff is horrible and the glory days are over. Considering the talent on Syo in 2015 they should have breezed through the NYS Tournament. The coaching staff failed the team. Fact.

Take that sentence back!

Did you hear what he said? He shouldn't have said what he said.

You don't say stuff like that on BOTC.

No dog in this fight, but did you just write, " You don't say stuff like that on BOTC."?? Obviously, you are new to this site because that or worse makes up 90% of everything posted on BOTC!!

"Just tried to catch the spirit of the thing" - Dickie Dunn -

I think he is referring to this list/post.

Some Stats from Ty X top 100 2018's

Colleges
Yale 7
Harvard 7
Maryland 6
Hopkins 6
Virginia 6
Duke 5
Denver 4
Mich 4
Navy 4
Princeton 4
Syracuse 4

States
NY 27 (9 LI)
MD 15
Conn 14
PA 10
Cali 6
Ohio 5

Position
Attack 22
A/M 12
Middy 29
F/O 6
D/LSM 24
G 7

Parents that think the list is good 100
Parents that think the list is BS 243,621

Any box lacrosse out there for HS guys looking to work on their game over the winter?

North of the Border offers Box Lacrosse all winter long. You can check out Legacy's site or it will be placed here soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop! You sound like a desperate 17 year old trying to get their first love back. Move on, Jesus he isn't ever coming back!

That's the spirit. Its never too late to correct a mistake.

What schools are a good fit for an above average lacrosse player with 90 GPA Unweighted (26 Act, 1210 Sat). Seems like this isnt enough for many schools to get in without lacrosse. Let's say undecided major.

DeVry University starting a lax program.....may be good fit for your son..

Dennison. Owu. Muhlenberg. F&M 8t9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DeVry University starting a lax program.....may be good fit for your son..

dbag

Do more research. Your son has plenty of options. My son's gpa was a 3.3 and pulled 1160 on the SAT's and he received great offers from 2 top 10 D2 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are a good fit for an above average lacrosse player with 90 GPA Unweighted (26 Act, 1210 Sat). Seems like this isnt enough for many schools to get in without lacrosse. Let's say undecided major.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop! You sound like a desperate 17 year old trying to get their first love back. Move on, Jesus he isn't ever coming back!

That's the spirit. Its never too late to correct a mistake.

Who is the current varsity lacrosse coach for Sayville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please stop! You sound like a desperate 17 year old trying to get their first love back. Move on, Jesus he isn't ever coming back!

That's the spirit. Its never too late to correct a mistake.

Who is the current varsity lacrosse coach for Sayville?

Apparently this dudes husband.

Fleming is no longer Sayville varsity coach.
Ok circle the wagons lets get Doller back.
I want a mob at the next BOE meeting!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fleming is no longer Sayville varsity coach.
Ok circle the wagons lets get Doller back.
I want a mob at the next BOE meeting!

How are you sure Fleming is out as HC?

This HAS TO happen if the job is open. Everyone needs to show up at the next BoE meeting and simply not take no for an answer. Problem is he needs to apply for the job. Someone get over to his house and ask him nicely. Maybe mow his lawn and apologize.

Sayville we can right a wrong and get our pride back.

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

Who is the Slakwear team playing in the varsity division in the Farmingdale Sunday morning league?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

This is crazy! GO GET DOLLER GO GET DOLLER GOOOO GEEEET COACH DOLLER

Garden City recruits....I would expect to have seen more players from GC committed already (class of 2018 and 2019).

They have some good talented players and very good athletes.

I can easily see 8-10 scholarship players coming from that squad from those classes (even more will play in college).
I know one senior player recently switched commitments but there seems to be radio silence so far. More to come, I'm sure the flood gates will open soon.

This program has really good connections and a strong network.

Does the school or coach try to put a leash on (or temper/control) commitments?

(and no I don't have a kid on the varsity team... I'm just rooting for these kids).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

This is crazy! GO GET DOLLER GO GET DOLLER GOOOO GEEEET COACH DOLLER

Isn't the guy who Coaches 'Quot from there? Let him Coach. That way he can make sure its the friends and family plan.

thanks for weighing in. you can easily see 8-10 scholarship players on the team. and more will play in college. that's the same as every year, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

This is crazy! GO GET DOLLER GO GET DOLLER GOOOO GEEEET COACH DOLLER

Isn't the guy who Coaches 'Quot from there? Let him Coach. That way he can make sure its the friends and family plan.

From what I hear, Coach is enjoying his time at Farmingdale. The only reason he may come back would be to coach his son. Fleming was horrible. The Connetquot guy might be the biggest d-bag on the planet. No one wants him to coach. The Bayport coach is a Sayville guy, too. I've heard rumblings about him coming over, as well. Either way, prepare for a heavy dose of Daddy ball.

I could care less if he's the coaches son. If your kid plays for sayville you want Coach D to be the coach. Will be interesting bc I know he likes Farmingdale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

Guys...good or bad...lets not speak about coaches son. lets agree on that. Ok

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could care less if he's the coaches son. If your kid plays for sayville you want Coach D to be the coach. Will be interesting bc I know he likes Farmingdale.

Even if that were true, it's still a conflict of interest. I know the board is trying to stay away from that, especially given the crap he pulled last time around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks for weighing in. you can easily see 8-10 scholarship players on the team. and more will play in college. that's the same as every year, isn't it?

No, really, thank you for pointing that out. Yes, that is a typical number each year. And your non answer - also speaks volumes.

So, don't you think think that's exactly the reason this questIon was asked? Not that many have committed yet, so why not? Has the coach or AD tried to slow down the process?

Now, if you have any useful contribution, it would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

This is crazy! GO GET DOLLER GO GET DOLLER GOOOO GEEEET COACH DOLLER

Isn't the guy who Coaches 'Quot from there? Let him Coach. That way he can make sure its the friends and family plan.

From what I hear, Coach is enjoying his time at Farmingdale. The only reason he may come back would be to coach his son. Fleming was horrible. The Connetquot guy might be the biggest d-bag on the planet. No one wants him to coach. The Bayport coach is a Sayville guy, too. I've heard rumblings about him coming over, as well. Either way, prepare for a heavy dose of Daddy ball.

I'm glad I'm not the only guy who thinks the big Duck is a big blowhard. Thanks for your support.

There's a long pole committed to Notre Dame. You may want to recheck your facts. AND no, not a Pequa parent or player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could care less if he's the coaches son. If your kid plays for sayville you want Coach D to be the coach. Will be interesting bc I know he likes Farmingdale.

Even if that were true, it's still a conflict of interest. I know the board is trying to stay away from that, especially given the crap he pulled last time around.

What crap did he pull last time? Be a mature adult and describe your gripes? BTW, his son is an excellent player and a good kid, doesn't need his Dad coaching to see the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I could care less if he's the coaches son. If your kid plays for sayville you want Coach D to be the coach. Will be interesting bc I know he likes Farmingdale.

Even if that were true, it's still a conflict of interest. I know the board is trying to stay away from that, especially given the crap he pulled last time around.

Conflict of interest? Do you have any idea how many HS coaches on LI have coached their son(s)? Are you serious? How about the G.D. school board hiring the best man for the job? Rehire Coach Doller.

It's just like anything else in life; you'll have some that misuse their role like former Manhasset HS coach but then you will have others like Coach Rotanz who was the former Shoreham Wading River HS Coach who had his son on his NY State Championship team.

Syosset change there name anyone want to guess?

"Boxers" as in Boxer Shorts.

Nope!!!! Good guess though!!

"Americans" ?

Here is a hint it's a team name!

igloo?

Winner winner chicken dinner!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks for weighing in. you can easily see 8-10 scholarship players on the team. and more will play in college. that's the same as every year, isn't it?

No, really, thank you for pointing that out. Yes, that is a typical number each year. And your non answer - also speaks volumes.

So, don't you think think that's exactly the reason this questIon was asked? Not that many have committed yet, so why not? Has the coach or AD tried to slow down the process?

Now, if you have any useful contribution, it would be greatly appreciated.

Following up-
2 recent commits from GC
1 2019 to Brown
1 2018 to Utah

So, maybe it was just early to ask the question .

Anyone know what the most recent scores are in the Varsity division of Farmingdale fallball?

yep....7-3, 11-8, 9-7, and in a shocker, 10-6!!.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what the most recent scores are in the Varsity division of Farmingdale fallball?

Why wouldn't you just go online and look for yourself???! The interwebs are wonderful thing, with access to all things, far and wide!

http://www.tourneymachine.com/Publi...ivision=h20170919201908708c9b8706ac98648

that 10-6 game was the best lax upset i have ever seen. I really hope someone filmed it so future generations can watch that game. that team was something else, like i have never seen before. Cant say enough about that game. WOW.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that 10-6 game was the best lax upset i have ever seen. I really hope someone filmed it so future generations can watch that game. that team was something else, like i have never seen before. Cant say enough about that game. WOW.

The guy ask an adult question, and gets a 2 year old response.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that 10-6 game was the best lax upset i have ever seen. I really hope someone filmed it so future generations can watch that game. that team was something else, like i have never seen before. Cant say enough about that game. WOW.

There is no game with a 10- 6 score listed in TourneyMachine. For that matter, nether are there any of the other scores cited!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's a long pole committed to Notre Dame. You may want to recheck your facts. AND no, not a Pequa parent or player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

WI Long Pole is committed to Yale so is the Goalie ...Juniors have depth like no other team..most played on 91 for years and some still do.. It should be a good season.. just look at their football team they are 4-0 so far mostly juniors are the driving force..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that 10-6 game was the best lax upset i have ever seen. I really hope someone filmed it so future generations can watch that game. that team was something else, like i have never seen before. Cant say enough about that game. WOW.

The guy ask an adult question, and gets a 2 year old response.

I am going to have to side with the guy with the smarta$$ reply, If that joke was good enough for George Carlin it is good enough for BOTC.

I only follow my kids team but I am sure every team is in the same boat - many starters not playing because of Soccer and Football, Lots of playing time for Fresh and Soph's most teams playing two or three goalies, seniors are trying to get a work out not win a game. Last Sunday my kid gets home and I ask what the score was, he says "I don't know" then asked who won? again. "I don't know" and I asked how he played and I got "OK" thus concluding the communications for the week.

exactly, the fall is for getting some competitive games in. coaches can bring up kids that may not play in the spring to get a look at them. The wise [lacrosse] comment was to show you these games mean close to nothing. Enjoy the fall my friends, you have earned it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is at St. Joe's with Rotanz.

This is crazy! GO GET DOLLER GO GET DOLLER GOOOO GEEEET COACH DOLLER

Isn't the guy who Coaches 'Quot from there? Let him Coach. That way he can make sure its the friends and family plan.

From what I hear, Coach is enjoying his time at Farmingdale. The only reason he may come back would be to coach his son. Fleming was horrible. The Connetquot guy might be the biggest d-bag on the planet. No one wants him to coach. The Bayport coach is a Sayville guy, too. I've heard rumblings about him coming over, as well. Either way, prepare for a heavy dose of Daddy ball.

Send email of support for Coach Doller to the Sayville AD, Superintendent and the school board members. Don't hope the right thing happens, make it happen.

The public and their uninformed opinions helped get him fired in the first place. Let the board, AD, and superintendent do their jobs. You can't MAKE anything happen. Sending 300 emails their way will just waste everyone's time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

I'm going to go out on a limb here...

Massapequa in Nassau and Ward Melville in Suffolk.

In each class (A B C) who has tr he best programs in the history of lacrosse. Going back to the 70's until now. Who has been the best..just curious. Any info would be great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In each class (A B C) who has tr he best programs in the history of lacrosse. Going back to the 70's until now. Who has been the best..just curious. Any info would be great.

A - Ward Melville
B - Garden City
C - Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In each class (A B C) who has tr he best programs in the history of lacrosse. Going back to the 70's until now. Who has been the best..just curious. Any info would be great.

A - Ward Melville
B - Garden City
C - Manhasset

Class C has only existed since 2000, and in that time CSH has won more titles than Manhasset. Yes, Manhasset has moved between B and C, but you can't their B successes as an evaluation of C.

IMHO - hard to breakdown because you can not discount the LIC's when there was only one division ('63 - '85) and also teams that have switched and won in two divisions (SWR - MAN)
here is my all time programs - I give the best program to GC because they had a tougher time getting out of Nassau then WM did in Suffolk untill the past 15 years
#1) GC 15 LIC's
#2) WM 17 LIC's
#3) Man 13 LIC's
#4) WI 8 LIC's
#5) SWR 6 LIC's

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

I'm going to go out on a limb here...

Massapequa in Nassau and Ward Melville in Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

WI and Pequa will battle for Long Island Champ this year...you heard it here first...remember ...

Pequa maybe, but WI might have their worst year in about 30. I'm talking maybe .500 record. The senior class is smallest in a long time (10 or less) and nobody going to play D1 yet. Juniors are better, a couple of D1 commits and a few good sophs. Will be a tough season. Watch to see who they schedule for out of conference. Should tell you a lot.

I'm going to go out on a limb here...

Massapequa in Nassau and Ward Melville in Suffolk.

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

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I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.

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I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

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I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.[/quote]

You make a good point that gets overlooked a lot when people label players from teams as being not as good as other , and it probably translates more in club than HS, especially within the whole A, B, etc thing. At any age, there are top teams that no one argues are the best, and then there are other teams that are dismissed as not being at the same level, and those teams' players are explicitly categorized as such as well, even when such a team plays that top team to a near tie for one half of a game. In reality, many of the top 10 out on the field for the lesser team are right on par with the top team's 10, but it is the depth of the top team that creates the difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy it Pequa fans. On the Back of The End Zone site the talk of the towns is what the heck happened to chiefs football and the foreseeable pipeline...

Back of the endzone? Can you share the link to the main page please. Never heard of it and have 2 in HS playing FB. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

[/quote]

I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.[/quote]

You make a good point that gets overlooked a lot when people label players from teams as being not as good as other , and it probably translates more in club than HS, especially within the whole A, B, etc thing. At any age, there are top teams that no one argues are the best, and then there are other teams that are dismissed as not being at the same level, and those teams' players are explicitly categorized as such as well, even when such a team plays that top team to a near tie for one half of a game. In reality, many of the top 10 out on the field for the lesser team are right on par with the top team's 10, but it is the depth of the top team that creates the difference.[/quote]

Really in HS it's the coaching that makes the difference. Can the Coach make the adjustments? Or does he just yell at the kids to play harder and execute on what he wants them to do... So much depends on those adjustments. For example: if a team's defense continues to get beat on man to man? Can the Coach switch to a zone and shut the opposing team's O down? Or will he just scream and have his players continue to chase their man and get beat? Does he have the ability to adjust on offense. Can he go to a match up game when you're motion offense is struggling? Can he use his best players in more creative ways to generate points? Will he run his best guys into the ground? When clearly there are kids on the sideline that can fill specific roles to give the best guys a breather? If he has 15 D1 commits maybe he doesn't have to worry about these things? Most teams do not have such luxuries. So in the end it comes down to how effective/creative the coach can be with the players he's got. We've all heard on here how bad these coaches are at using the talent they have. Team's with 20+ D1 commits that can't beat other teams with far less talent. It's the same stories every year. It always comes back to Coaching, or lack there of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.[/quote]

You make a good point that gets overlooked a lot when people label players from teams as being not as good as other , and it probably translates more in club than HS, especially within the whole A, B, etc thing. At any age, there are top teams that no one argues are the best, and then there are other teams that are dismissed as not being at the same level, and those teams' players are explicitly categorized as such as well, even when such a team plays that top team to a near tie for one half of a game. In reality, many of the top 10 out on the field for the lesser team are right on par with the top team's 10, but it is the depth of the top team that creates the difference.[/quote]

Really in HS it's the coaching that makes the difference. Can the Coach make the adjustments? Or does he just yell at the kids to play harder and execute on what he wants them to do... So much depends on those adjustments. For example: if a team's defense continues to get beat on man to man? Can the Coach switch to a zone and shut the opposing team's O down? Or will he just scream and have his players continue to chase their man and get beat? Does he have the ability to adjust on offense. Can he go to a match up game when you're motion offense is struggling? Can he use his best players in more creative ways to generate points? Will he run his best guys into the ground? When clearly there are kids on the sideline that can fill specific roles to give the best guys a breather? If he has 15 D1 commits maybe he doesn't have to worry about these things? Most teams do not have such luxuries. So in the end it comes down to how effective/creative the coach can be with the players he's got. We've all heard on here how bad these coaches are at using the talent they have. Team's with 20+ D1 commits that can't beat other teams with far less talent. It's the same stories every year. It always comes back to Coaching, or lack there of.

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Most of those lamenting the skills of the coach are parents who think their child should be a starter and he is not. Team's with 20 D-1 commits who don't play as a team will be a terrible team. Remember all those Redskin Teams loaded with talent who couldn't win more than 7 games? same thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.[/quote]

You make a good point that gets overlooked a lot when people label players from teams as being not as good as other , and it probably translates more in club than HS, especially within the whole A, B, etc thing. At any age, there are top teams that no one argues are the best, and then there are other teams that are dismissed as not being at the same level, and those teams' players are explicitly categorized as such as well, even when such a team plays that top team to a near tie for one half of a game. In reality, many of the top 10 out on the field for the lesser team are right on par with the top team's 10, but it is the depth of the top team that creates the difference.[/quote]

Really in HS it's the coaching that makes the difference. Can the Coach make the adjustments? Or does he just yell at the kids to play harder and execute on what he wants them to do... So much depends on those adjustments. For example: if a team's defense continues to get beat on man to man? Can the Coach switch to a zone and shut the opposing team's O down? Or will he just scream and have his players continue to chase their man and get beat? Does he have the ability to adjust on offense. Can he go to a match up game when you're motion offense is struggling? Can he use his best players in more creative ways to generate points? Will he run his best guys into the ground? When clearly there are kids on the sideline that can fill specific roles to give the best guys a breather? If he has 15 D1 commits maybe he doesn't have to worry about these things? Most teams do not have such luxuries. So in the end it comes down to how effective/creative the coach can be with the players he's got. We've all heard on here how bad these coaches are at using the talent they have. Team's with 20+ D1 commits that can't beat other teams with far less talent. It's the same stories every year. It always comes back to Coaching, or lack there of.

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How many high school coaches even know what you are talking about. Lol. Most coaches do not have the experience or abilities to make the changes you mention. There are a few schools that have them and they are lucky. I dont know of many high schools that have the luxury of having teams deep enough to make the adjustments you mention either. There are rare instances where a high school will have the perfect mix of talent and coaching. This is a very rare situation and doesn't happen often.

I think if this were club ball we could talk about zones, slides and offense and defensive sets all day long. Most high school teams have a handful go lacrosse players and the majority of their players just play lacrosse. I hope people understand the difference.

Now if a team has 20 + D1 commits and the can't win a long island championship, then there is a problem with coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I give a lot of credit to WM, especially their coaching. My son plays for Northport and we played them in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year. It was 5-3 at the half and we were right in the game when they came out the 2nd half, made some adjustments and just blew the doors off. We never won another face-off and they just kept coming. Funny is when we played them during the regular season, it was pretty much the same scenario. We were right i the game when they just made some changes and although we only lost 12-8, we still lost regardless. A lot to be said for really smart coaching that knows how to use their players.

I think that you make a valid point about a good program and them making adjustments yet I also believe it has to do with depth of a program. Could it be that your players were playing at their absolute best and 110% of their ability during the first half and in the second didnt have much left in the tank. Great players and teams know when and how to play at 110% when it counts. When a program has more depth they have the ability to run more players at 110% over a longer period of time. As a result as the game moves on they start to separate themselves from the teams that are not as deep. Their star player played 15 min at an average of 90% where your star players played the whole half at 110%. The only reason that this occurs is that they have a few more players at each position they can put in that are not that much of a drop off from the 1st line. As a result they can rest their players just enough that they are fresh in the second half. This not a knock on your program but an observation from watching a lot of lacrosse and seeing teams that looked evenly matched in first half of games then have one of the teams blow the other out in the second half.

You make a good point that gets overlooked a lot when people label players from teams as being not as good as other , and it probably translates more in club than HS, especially within the whole A, B, etc thing. At any age, there are top teams that no one argues are the best, and then there are other teams that are dismissed as not being at the same level, and those teams' players are explicitly categorized as such as well, even when such a team plays that top team to a near tie for one half of a game. In reality, many of the top 10 out on the field for the lesser team are right on par with the top team's 10, but it is the depth of the top team that creates the difference.[/quote]

Really in HS it's the coaching that makes the difference. Can the Coach make the adjustments? Or does he just yell at the kids to play harder and execute on what he wants them to do... So much depends on those adjustments. For example: if a team's defense continues to get beat on man to man? Can the Coach switch to a zone and shut the opposing team's O down? Or will he just scream and have his players continue to chase their man and get beat? Does he have the ability to adjust on offense. Can he go to a match up game when you're motion offense is struggling? Can he use his best players in more creative ways to generate points? Will he run his best guys into the ground? When clearly there are kids on the sideline that can fill specific roles to give the best guys a breather? If he has 15 D1 commits maybe he doesn't have to worry about these things? Most teams do not have such luxuries. So in the end it comes down to how effective/creative the coach can be with the players he's got. We've all heard on here how bad these coaches are at using the talent they have. Team's with 20+ D1 commits that can't beat other teams with far less talent. It's the same stories every year. It always comes back to Coaching, or lack there of.

[/quote]
Most of those lamenting the skills of the coach are parents who think their child should be a starter and he is not. Team's with 20 D-1 commits who don't play as a team will be a terrible team. Remember all those Redskin Teams loaded with talent who couldn't win more than 7 games? same thing.[/quote]
There are a handful of good coaching staffs out there however most are not very good. The good ones will win when the have the talent and depth. Some will not be able to win even when they have the talent and depth. West Islip is a good example, when the had the great players the coaches were able to win. The past 5 years WI has not had the dame depth of talent and they have not won. The top coaching staffs out there:
Ward Melville
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset
Massapequa
Chaminade
St Anthony's
West Islip.

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Sorry but privates like Chaminade and St Anthony's should not be on the list of great coaching staffs. They have programs that players go to specifically play lacrosse. Most public high school programs would die for the pool of talent that these coaches have to pick from. There are D1 and D3 players at these institutions that never see the field.

I would agree about Syosset coaching staff!

I am a big believer in the old adage that the best coaches get off the bus with the best players.....players win games and coaches lose games is a bunch of B.S.

Tom Coughlin was a great coach when he had talent and fired when he did not.

IMHO the coaching at the PAL level is more important then at the HS level. have a great feeder program and have a great HS program, that is how they did it in WI and SWR and how they constantly do it at CSH, GC, Mann and CSH.

I also don't believe the coaching in travel is that much better if at all then at the HS level. A lot of the travel coaches are HS coaches, they might be able to do more strategy coaching but they have hand picked teams. They can build team offense and team defense because they do not worry about skills or the weaker players where as at most HS you are still working on skills almost all the way through (except at the programs with good feeder programs).

Having said all that I will say that the one team that constantly gets the most out of their outstanding players is WM - really good game day coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a big believer in the old adage that the best coaches get off the bus with the best players.....players win games and coaches lose games is a bunch of B.S.

Tom Coughlin was a great coach when he had talent and fired when he did not.

IMHO the coaching at the PAL level is more important then at the HS level. have a great feeder program and have a great HS program, that is how they did it in WI and SWR and how they constantly do it at CSH, GC, Mann and CSH.

I also don't believe the coaching in travel is that much better if at all then at the HS level. A lot of the travel coaches are HS coaches, they might be able to do more strategy coaching but they have hand picked teams. They can build team offense and team defense because they do not worry about skills or the weaker players where as at most HS you are still working on skills almost all the way through (except at the programs with good feeder programs).

Having said all that I will say that the one team that constantly gets the most out of their outstanding players is WM - really good game day coaches.

Except the two years they lost to Smithtown East.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Now this is 100% pure craziness. Coaching failure? Spoken like a typical disgruntled mommy/daddy. I think the quote is "you can't want it more then the players" (pick your famous coach for the author)

Question: If a CSH kid got caught doing something wrong the night before the game do you blame the coaching staff?

And that's because you are a typical Syosset brat parent!

Let's face it. nobody on this site will ever say a positive word about Syosset. Move on people. it's getting old. Coach took over in 2001. Look at the record before 2001 and since 2001 and get back to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a big believer in the old adage that the best coaches get off the bus with the best players.....players win games and coaches lose games is a bunch of B.S.

Tom Coughlin was a great coach when he had talent and fired when he did not.

IMHO the coaching at the PAL level is more important then at the HS level. have a great feeder program and have a great HS program, that is how they did it in WI and SWR and how they constantly do it at CSH, GC, Mann and CSH.

I also don't believe the coaching in travel is that much better if at all then at the HS level. A lot of the travel coaches are HS coaches, they might be able to do more strategy coaching but they have hand picked teams. They can build team offense and team defense because they do not worry about skills or the weaker players where as at most HS you are still working on skills almost all the way through (except at the programs with good feeder programs).

Having said all that I will say that the one team that constantly gets the most out of their outstanding players is WM - really good game day coaches.

Except the two years they lost to Smithtown East.

Unless a team wins a championship every year they are no good? is there a chance that Smithtown East had good coaching and good players on those teams? reading this thread it is a wonder that any team wins any games...ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

Agreed with the above statement... and not from Syosset (much happier slightly to the east) LOL. JK.

Massapequa has the best lacrosse coach in LI. GP is a legend in the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

Syosset was not hung over. they were outplayed. Love these excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

That's what coaches sign up / get paid for....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

That's what coaches sign up / get paid for....

I am sorry I feel that parents are asking way too much of coaches these days. Parents need to do a little more parenting. Today parents want to blame everyone else for their child's behavior. Its an absolute joke. Monkey see monkey do, parents. If your smoking the wacky tabacky, if your nipping the bottle every night at the table, what do you think junior will do? Nooo its the coaches fault!! B.S. If you dont check juniors bag before a school sanctioned trip and he gets busted for having alcohol or weed. If you dont look in their wallet for the fake ID and they get in trouble for buying liquor, its not the coaches fault its yours. If parents know the kids vaping and then they get caught vaping at school its your fault not the coaches. Its called parenting. Your children are not your friends. Which is something many parents dont get today. Its always someone else's fault. No parents its yours.

A varsity coach will enter the players lives around age 15 or 16 years old, they spend 2-3 hours a day with them six days a week from the beginning of March until the end of May and they have 30 to 40 kids to worry about (not just yours). For the $8,000 - $12,000 they get paid they will be responsible for school work, school discipline problems, teaching and advising them on the recruiting process, talk to college coaches on their behalf, getting calls from other teachers about the kids, dealing with parents, (and in many years they have to deal with family tragedy) and they actually coach lacrosse. This same coach may also coach 1 or 2 other sports as well as trying to raise their own families......and every anonymous poster on here think they all suck.... Here is a Thank You to all the coaches and assistant coaches that have to deal with us and for the most part do a damn good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

That's what coaches sign up / get paid for....

I am sorry I feel that parents are asking way too much of coaches these days. Parents need to do a little more parenting. Today parents want to blame everyone else for their child's behavior. Its an absolute joke. Monkey see monkey do, parents. If your smoking the wacky tabacky, if your nipping the bottle every night at the table, what do you think junior will do? Nooo its the coaches fault!! B.S. If you dont check juniors bag before a school sanctioned trip and he gets busted for having alcohol or weed. If you dont look in their wallet for the fake ID and they get in trouble for buying liquor, its not the coaches fault its yours. If parents know the kids vaping and then they get caught vaping at school its your fault not the coaches. Its called parenting. Your children are not your friends. Which is something many parents dont get today. Its always someone else's fault. No parents its yours.

Amen to that!!! Just sucks when the few rotten apples spoil the bunch. I am sure in the next year or two we will see more and more issues. I am just waiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

That's what coaches sign up / get paid for....

And they are teachers.....please... they work half a year and get paid as full time people. Plus get PAID to coach. Oh yea get PAID to watch HS games when not coaching..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset?

The Syosset Coaching staff is very weak. Just look back to the 2015 Season.... Blew the doors off of Pequa and SE and then stumbled vs an average Nisky Team. That's a pure coaching failure. No proper mental preparation for the game, No adjustments made for the second half. Coaching staff failed. Syosset has never won a state championship despite having many, many talented players through the years.

Similar story in 2016.... Syo got beat by a disciplined and well coached WM Team.

Can go back further but is it really necessary? Easy to see the pattern.

Syosset lacrosse will never win a championship with the current coaching staff.

So the coaching was good enough to beat Pequa/WM maybe its the players, maybe they were hung over?

Who, the coaches? Yes, maybe they were hung over...

If the players were hung over this again is a coaching failure. CSH went up to Middletown the night before to get in the "zone", and took care of business. Syo coaching staff should have brought the team up the night before and made sure the players were well rested and not hung over.... So yes, it was a coaching failure.

Anybody that blames a HS coach for the social behavior of 16-17-18 year old kids is crazy. I would not want to work in a job that was predicated on the actions of someone else teenage kid.

That's what coaches sign up / get paid for....

And they are teachers.....please... they work half a year and get paid as full time people. Plus get PAID to coach. Oh yea get PAID to watch HS games when not coaching..

Seems like someone is unhappy with their career choice. Lol. Your kidding with this statement, right. The choice to teach is up to the individual. I am sure a lot of thought went into your career path decision. The choice to be in academia is not an easy one especially in this day and age. As for getting paid to coach, what should they do it for free? What type of work are you in? I am sure you dont work for free. The hours spent coaching can be long and tedious. They are away from their families and the good coaches put in a lot more hours than what is expected.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks for weighing in. you can easily see 8-10 scholarship players on the team. and more will play in college. that's the same as every year, isn't it?

No, really, thank you for pointing that out. Yes, that is a typical number each year. And your non answer - also speaks volumes.

So, don't you think think that's exactly the reason this questIon was asked? Not that many have committed yet, so why not? Has the coach or AD tried to slow down the process?

Now, if you have any useful contribution, it would be greatly appreciated.

Following up-
2 recent commits from GC
1 2019 to Brown
1 2018 to Utah

So, maybe it was just early to ask the question .

Flood gates are opening for GC.....

Another 2019 to Cornell

I think a good number of them do a solid job. Every parent is like a Yankee fan. They expect to win every year and it just doesn't work like that. (No offense to the Yankee fans). So if they don't win Suffolk, or Long Island or the state, it is of course the coaches fault. Now do not get me wrong. They do get paid for it and everyone deserves to get paid. But like I said, some are much more deserving than others. And not everyone covers all the responsibilities that you covered in your post. For example, there is one coach, a long standing coach in Suffolk County on the North Shore who is notorious for doing the bare minimum for his players. And this is a top 10 program that has sent players to college, a number at the D1 top 10 level and if you ask the players or the parents, this coach had absolutely nothing to do with getting them there. It was either the travel coaches or the parents that did all the work. So the point is not all coaches are made the same and some care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about their kids than others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A varsity coach will enter the players lives around age 15 or 16 years old, they spend 2-3 hours a day with them six days a week from the beginning of March until the end of May and they have 30 to 40 kids to worry about (not just yours). For the $8,000 - $12,000 they get paid they will be responsible for school work, school discipline problems, teaching and advising them on the recruiting process, talk to college coaches on their behalf, getting calls from other teachers about the kids, dealing with parents, (and in many years they have to deal with family tragedy) and they actually coach lacrosse. This same coach may also coach 1 or 2 other sports as well as trying to raise their own families......and every anonymous poster on here think they all suck.... Here is a Thank You to all the coaches and assistant coaches that have to deal with us and for the most part do a damn good job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks for weighing in. you can easily see 8-10 scholarship players on the team. and more will play in college. that's the same as every year, isn't it?

No, really, thank you for pointing that out. Yes, that is a typical number each year. And your non answer - also speaks volumes.

So, don't you think think that's exactly the reason this questIon was asked? Not that many have committed yet, so why not? Has the coach or AD tried to slow down the process?

Now, if you have any useful contribution, it would be greatly appreciated.

Following up-
2 recent commits from GC
1 2019 to Brown
1 2018 to Utah

So, maybe it was just early to ask the question .

Flood gates are opening for GC.....

Another 2019 to Cornell

GC already had 3 2018's on the books from last year - Lafayette, Providence, Fairfield.

expect another 8 in total

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think a good number of them do a solid job. Every parent is like a Yankee fan. They expect to win every year and it just doesn't work like that. (No offense to the Yankee fans). So if they don't win Suffolk, or Long Island or the state, it is of course the coaches fault. Now do not get me wrong. They do get paid for it and everyone deserves to get paid. But like I said, some are much more deserving than others. And not everyone covers all the responsibilities that you covered in your post. For example, there is one coach, a long standing coach in Suffolk County on the North Shore who is notorious for doing the bare minimum for his players. And this is a top 10 program that has sent players to college, a number at the D1 top 10 level and if you ask the players or the parents, this coach had absolutely nothing to do with getting them there. It was either the travel coaches or the parents that did all the work. So the point is not all coaches are made the same and some care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about their kids than others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A varsity coach will enter the players lives around age 15 or 16 years old, they spend 2-3 hours a day with them six days a week from the beginning of March until the end of May and they have 30 to 40 kids to worry about (not just yours). For the $8,000 - $12,000 they get paid they will be responsible for school work, school discipline problems, teaching and advising them on the recruiting process, talk to college coaches on their behalf, getting calls from other teachers about the kids, dealing with parents, (and in many years they have to deal with family tragedy) and they actually coach lacrosse. This same coach may also coach 1 or 2 other sports as well as trying to raise their own families......and every anonymous poster on here think they all suck.... Here is a Thank You to all the coaches and assistant coaches that have to deal with us and for the most part do a damn good job.

true that - like in any occupation some are better than others, same as with teachers and administrators, the original post was not trying to canonize HS coaches it was about saying they (most) do a lot and to hold them responsible for teenage boys social shortcomings is silly. But your point is valid, many go above and beyond and some come up short.

Ha..was waiting for that response from one of our LI teachers.......academia...most are HS GYM teachers.....get over yourself. HS teachers work half a day for half a year. Please tell me, with your extensive academic knowledge what job is there other than a LI teacher that works half a day/half a year and is paid as a full time employee. Nobody stated that they should coach for free but to try and sell the long/tedious hours thing is silly. Away from family coaching???? cmon...then don't coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha..was waiting for that response from one of our LI teachers.......academia...most are HS GYM teachers.....get over yourself. HS teachers work half a day for half a year. Please tell me, with your extensive academic knowledge what job is there other than a LI teacher that works half a day/half a year and is paid as a full time employee. Nobody stated that they should coach for free but to try and sell the long/tedious hours thing is silly. Away from family coaching???? cmon...then don't coach.

I'll take my 1/2 a day PE job making 6 figures plus a pension when I retire at 55 and move to Florida and live in the house that coaching is paying for....at the end of the day, no coach wants to lose, but we work with what we have got. Whoever lives in the town and wants to play we coach. With all of the other bs that you non-parenting parents allow your kids to do (heroin for example) I don't mind being the person motivating your kid to do something positive with their lives. For the record, 1 team in each conference finishes their season with a win....someone has to lose. But losing in lacrosse is a lot better than losing in life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha..was waiting for that response from one of our LI teachers.......academia...most are HS GYM teachers.....get over yourself. HS teachers work half a day for half a year. Please tell me, with your extensive academic knowledge what job is there other than a LI teacher that works half a day/half a year and is paid as a full time employee. Nobody stated that they should coach for free but to try and sell the long/tedious hours thing is silly. Away from family coaching???? cmon...then don't coach.

I'll take my 1/2 a day PE job making 6 figures plus a pension when I retire at 55 and move to Florida and live in the house that coaching is paying for....at the end of the day, no coach wants to lose, but we work with what we have got. Whoever lives in the town and wants to play we coach. With all of the other bs that you non-parenting parents allow your kids to do (heroin for example) I don't mind being the person motivating your kid to do something positive with their lives. For the record, 1 team in each conference finishes their season with a win....someone has to lose. But losing in lacrosse is a lot better than losing in life.

Ha...at least your honest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ha..was waiting for that response from one of our LI teachers.......academia...most are HS GYM teachers.....get over yourself. HS teachers work half a day for half a year. Please tell me, with your extensive academic knowledge what job is there other than a LI teacher that works half a day/half a year and is paid as a full time employee. Nobody stated that they should coach for free but to try and sell the long/tedious hours thing is silly. Away from family coaching???? cmon...then don't coach.

I'll take my 1/2 a day PE job making 6 figures plus a pension when I retire at 55 and move to Florida and live in the house that coaching is paying for....at the end of the day, no coach wants to lose, but we work with what we have got. Whoever lives in the town and wants to play we coach. With all of the other bs that you non-parenting parents allow your kids to do (heroin for example) I don't mind being the person motivating your kid to do something positive with their lives. For the record, 1 team in each conference finishes their season with a win....someone has to lose. But losing in lacrosse is a lot better than losing in life.

Amen to that. You play the hand you are delt. Some years it's feast others it's famine. As a high school coach you can't pick and choose your players or the parents. There is so much more to deal with as a coach especially on Long Island when it comes to lacrosse. There are so many sideline critics and Monday morning quterbacks it's insane. Not all towns are created equal when it comes to lacrosse talent and the talent pool does change. It may not change that drastically in some towns but they all have up and down years.

What ever happened to the coaching issue at Sayville? Is the old coach back?

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Hmmm.....5 days/week x 52 weeks......common now....260 days/year. I know ur a PE teacher but cmon man. Anyway have a great day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Hmmm.....5 days/week x 52 weeks......common now....260 days/year. I know ur a PE teacher but cmon man. Anyway have a great day.

I'm not the P/E teacher, nor am I teacher, but your jealousy is pretty obvious. We all could have become teachers but chose other paths, be thankful if they are good and your kids learn from them. Kind of sad. You should just keep your kid out of competitive sports. You're a cancer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Hmmm.....5 days/week x 52 weeks......common now....260 days/year. I know ur a PE teacher but cmon man. Anyway have a great day.

I am not a teacher, but if you are going to go with contract days, they you also have to take out for non-teachers' vacation and holidays - they don;t work those days either! So, minute 3 wks (15 days) and the 10 paid holidays. You're not too smart, are you??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Hmmm.....5 days/week x 52 weeks......common now....260 days/year. I know ur a PE teacher but cmon man. Anyway have a great day.

I am not a teacher, but if you are going to go with contract days, they you also have to take out for non-teachers' vacation and holidays - they don;t work those days either! So, minute 3 wks (15 days) and the 10 paid holidays. You're not too smart, are you??

Huh???....do teachers get vacation days? Yes. Therefore take the # of vacation days out of the equation. Geez....wake up will ya.

https://projects.newsday.com/databases/long-island/teacher-administrator-salaries-2016-2017/

If you wanted to work 180 days a year, 7 hours a day, on a full time salary, you should have become a teacher! I make more money than my Lawyer bother, and CPA sister. We live comfortably, and can even afford travel lacrosse for all our kids. Being my spouse is also a teacher we will have a combined pension of 200k at 55. I also get to spend time with my kids. It's a win win! Don't shoot the messenger! Best job out there, if you like kids!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1/2 a year? Wow teachers are failing if someone thinks that 10 months out of 12 is half?!

hmmm....contracted work days= typically 180. Days in a year 365. You do the math Einstein... if you can.

By that logic, most workers only work ~235 days per year, so they only work ~65% of the year!

Hmmm.....5 days/week x 52 weeks......common now....260 days/year. I know ur a PE teacher but cmon man. Anyway have a great day.

I am not a teacher, but if you are going to go with contract days, they you also have to take out for non-teachers' vacation and holidays - they don;t work those days either! So, minute 3 wks (15 days) and the 10 paid holidays. You're not too smart, are you??

Huh???....do teachers get vacation days? Yes. Therefore take the # of vacation days out of the equation. Geez....wake up will ya.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

and they have to put up with [lacrosse] parents like those on this site.. i think they are underpaid.

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally jacka$$- you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

I'm 57 and have basically the exact same story, except my income hasn't gone down (yet). And I agree with you 100%. My advice... don't chase the money dream. It's not what is important. Family and your kids are what is important. Their childhood years are over before you know it and once they are gone, they are gone forever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally jacka$$- you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

You totally lost that argument dude

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally- you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

You totally lost that argument dude

I’m home napping by 2:30. Will be out training with my kids by 5. Whose better than me?

Great. Errr where is the lacrosse forum:/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally - you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally - you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

You can think whatever you want, nobody cares! and teachers salaries are only going up. Now back to your desk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally - you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

What do you do? Love to hear about your super tough day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally donkey$$- you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

What do you do? Love to hear about your super tough day.

Topic is so BORING

Thank goodness the old owner Larry is gone. So abrasive, pompous and didn't care about lax one bit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally - you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

What do you do? Love to hear about your super tough day.

If you must know, I work in the financial industry, which means working way over the average in terms of time and effort, but at least the comp is commensurate with effort and results! So, yes, it is a super tough day, pretty much every day I am in the office not to mention the countless nights and weekends that go along with it. And I have zero regrets in the career of my choosing, nor does my feelings about municipal comp have anything to do with jealousy - rather, that sentiment comes in being a taxpayer that funds those jobs, and, as such, it is all of our right to question how the government spends its money relative to value derived as well as the sustainability of such spending. As pointed out earlier, higher than average salaries AND great benefits packages were never the norm for such jobs, and at about the same time they did became the norm, many municipalities started to go into the red and are now caught up in a ever growing mountain of debt that they can never recover from - that's the definition of unsustainable! So, even if you believe teachers comp and benefits are appropriate, that car is careening off into the ditch, and the end ain't gonna be pretty for anyone on either side of the equation!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally jacka$$- you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

What do you do? Love to hear about your super tough day.

If you must know, I work in the financial industry, which means working way over the average in terms of time and effort, but at least the comp is commensurate with effort and results! So, yes, it is a super tough day, pretty much every day I am in the office not to mention the countless nights and weekends that go along with it. And I have zero regrets in the career of my choosing, nor does my feelings about municipal comp have anything to do with jealousy - rather, that sentiment comes in being a taxpayer that funds those jobs, and, as such, it is all of our right to question how the government spends its money relative to value derived as well as the sustainability of such spending. As pointed out earlier, higher than average salaries AND great benefits packages were never the norm for such jobs, and at about the same time they did became the norm, many municipalities started to go into the red and are now caught up in a ever growing mountain of debt that they can never recover from - that's the definition of unsustainable! So, even if you believe teachers comp and benefits are appropriate, that car is careening off into the ditch, and the end ain't gonna be pretty for anyone on either side of the equation!

I'll take my 150,000 7:30-2:30 local job with summers off any day of the week. Spending time with the family=priceless!

Honestly, teachers don't make much

You work in the financial industry! So you have contributed exactly ZERO to society, wherein that lowly PE teacher that you so easily dismiss has probably had a positive impact on at least one life a day. Good job dude, you just made yourself look like a complete fool. let's see, afternoon martini fed lunches, golf outings once or twice a week, coke fueled stripper dinners with clients and on and on and on.

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

Dude, update your DVD collection at home..."Wall Street" came out about 25 years ago. Days of blow and funny money at strip clubs ended a long time ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When I was 22, I laughed at anybody that was thinking about teaching as a career

When I was 32 I was making twice as much money as a teacher and laughing at them

When I was 42 I was making 4 times what a teacher was making but working 80 hours a week and missing my kids growing up

When I was 52 I was making about the same as teacher half my age, but I was still working twice as hard

I am 62 and wish I had gone into teaching, I am making less money than when I was 32, I am no where near retiring and i will probably die at my desk.

nice pay, nice benefits, holidays, vacations and summers off with your kids - congrats on a good career choice.

Duh - the 180 "contact days" ARE AFTER school vacations vacations and holidays - they actually have to work those 180 contract days! Again, you're not too bright!

Finally - you got it...180 days of work for full years pay. Avg amount of work days/month (10 month school year)-18. And since you probably a HS PE teacher 4 hours work/day. See ya. Have a great day teaching duck-duck-goose

Since this all went way over your head, let me spell this out for you: No one ever inferred that teachers didn't work less days per year. And no one inferred that one could NOT make a good argument that for having worked less, that, furthered, teachers are paid (too) highly for less work (A point I actually agree with, because, as stated prior, I am NOT a TEACHER! I think all teachers and/or municipal jobs should either have lower wages AND great benefits/pensions, or vice versa, but NOT both - that was the way it used to be!). What you have entirely missed in this exchange is that the initial comment inferred that non teachers worked a lot more of the year than teachers than the ACTUAL difference bears out - that on an "apples to apples" basis, it's only a difference of ~50% vs ~65%. IE, that you had zero clue that the average non-teacher worker works only ~65% of the days of a year.

What do you do? Love to hear about your super tough day.

If you must know, I work in the financial industry, which means working way over the average in terms of time and effort, but at least the comp is commensurate with effort and results! So, yes, it is a super tough day, pretty much every day I am in the office not to mention the countless nights and weekends that go along with it. And I have zero regrets in the career of my choosing, nor does my feelings about municipal comp have anything to do with jealousy - rather, that sentiment comes in being a taxpayer that funds those jobs, and, as such, it is all of our right to question how the government spends its money relative to value derived as well as the sustainability of such spending. As pointed out earlier, higher than average salaries AND great benefits packages were never the norm for such jobs, and at about the same time they did became the norm, many municipalities started to go into the red and are now caught up in a ever growing mountain of debt that they can never recover from - that's the definition of unsustainable! So, even if you believe teachers comp and benefits are appropriate, that car is careening off into the ditch, and the end ain't gonna be pretty for anyone on either side of the equation!

Respectfully, your life sounds horrible

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Of course thats your rebuttal, Your a first year on a desk. You just finished reading Reminiscences of a Stock Operator and will be convinced everything in that book is gospel, then you will read Buffett The making of an American Capitalist, and that the ways and means of the Oracle of Omaha are the only way to trade.

LOL Can we please get back to lacrosse. For those of you who dont know above is my spin on a scene from Good Will Hunting. Lets talk lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Ahhhh, so says the hypocrite who stereotyped teachers! Thanks, but why don't you take a quick bump and get back to the strip club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Pequa is looking good, the D is really good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Pequa is looking good, the D is really good.

SW takes Suffolk A, Massapequa Nassau A, GC takes B, EI? No way, SWR yes. D yes, think Nassau will sweep LIC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Pequa is looking good, the D is really good.

SW takes Suffolk A, Massapequa Nassau A, GC takes B, EI? No way, SWR yes. D yes, think Nassau will sweep LIC.

So, to be clear, you think OB beats Babylon in the LIC?

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM

Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM

Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Yes, but this is why we have this forum.
Suffolk A - SW
Suffolk B - Comsewogue
Suffolk C - Islip
Suffolk D - Babylon (by default)
Nassau A- Pequa
Nassau B- GC
Nassau C -CSH
Nassau D - OB

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Of course thats your rebuttal, Your a first year on a desk. You just finished reading Reminiscences of a Stock Operator and will be convinced everything in that book is gospel, then you will read Buffett The making of an American Capitalist, and that the ways and means of the Oracle of Omaha are the only way to trade.

LOL Can we please get back to lacrosse. For those of you who dont know above is my spin on a scene from Good Will Hunting. Lets talk lacrosse.

"How bout them apples "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM
Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Pequa is looking good, the D is really good.

SW takes Suffolk A, Massapequa Nassau A, GC takes B, EI? No way, SWR yes. D yes, think Nassau will sweep LIC.

So, to be clear, you think OB beats Babylon in the LIC?

Syosset, lol. It's Massapequas all the way. Syosset is a shell of the team they used to be. Kind of like their football program.

Does it really matter who wins? As long all the boys have fun!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter who wins? As long all the boys have fun!!!

Mom please stop it you are embarrassing me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Ahhhh, so says the hypocrite who stereotyped teachers! Thanks, but why don't you take a quick bump and get back to the strip club.

Stereotyped teachers where . . . ???! And I have never worked in investments, as a trader or a broker . . . try again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A - Syosset
Nassau B - Manhasset
Nassau C - CSH
Nassau D - Oyster Bay

Suffolk A - WM

Suffolk B - EI
Suffolk C - SWR
Suffolk D - Babylon

LIC A - WM
LIC B - Manhasset
LIC C - SWR
LIC D - Babylon

Syosset??? Manhasset???? Try again

Yes, but this is why we have this forum.
Suffolk A - SW
Suffolk B - Comsewogue
Suffolk C - Islip
Suffolk D - Babylon (by default)
Nassau A- Pequa
Nassau B- GC
Nassau C -CSH
Nassau D - OB

SW is strong but the smart money is betting on Ward Melville. The Pat's are athletic, talented and deep. They also return a ton of experience 6 or 7 of their players have played in the past two State Championship games. 10 starters/regulars are back from last years State Championship Team. They are deep acrosse the board, Four D1 FOGO's (Penn State, Syracuse, Michigan, Penn). Goalie is legit, D and LSM are excellent. Their midfielders are experienced and athletic (4 of the top 6 return.... 5 of the top 7). They have their top two scorers back on attack.
Two Sophs will most likely be impactful (Goalie & D/LSM). Factor in several Seniors and Juniors who could easily surprise and contribute . I would not bet against Ward Melville. As usual, their team D will be outstanding and we know what wins championships.
Good Luck to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Farmingdale does not have a goalie. Their senior tore his ACL playing football. Great kid, great goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Ahhhh, so says the hypocrite who stereotyped teachers! Thanks, but why don't you take a quick bump and get back to the strip club.

Stereotyped teachers where . . . ???! And I have never worked in investments, as a trader or a broker . . . try again!

Okay, I'll try again, you work in a shallow and self serving industry filled with drug abusers, misogynists and adulterers. How's that? Certainly factually correct. Hope that works better for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Farmingdale does not have a goalie. Their senior tore his ACL playing football. Great kid, great goalie.

Not enough offensive power on Farmingdale to beat Pequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Farmingdale does not have a goalie. Their senior tore his ACL playing football. Great kid, great goalie.

Not enough offensive power on Farmingdale to beat Pequa.

Concur on the Farmingdale goalie! Great goalie, great kid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Farmingdale does not have a goalie. Their senior tore his ACL playing football. Great kid, great goalie.

If true, that is a shame, he was outstanding last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Ahhhh, so says the hypocrite who stereotyped teachers! Thanks, but why don't you take a quick bump and get back to the strip club.

Stereotyped teachers where . . . ???! And I have never worked in investments, as a trader or a broker . . . try again!

Okay, I'll try again, you work in a shallow and self serving industry filled with drug abusers, misogynists and adulterers. How's that? Certainly factually correct. Hope that works better for you.

Again, keep posting - better to keep quiet and have people think you're a fool than to open you mouth and remove all doubt!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Not sure about LV over CSH this year, but I would put them over CSH for the 2019 and 2020 seasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, who let Bernie Sanders on here???

Nah, just love the "finance guy" pissing and moaning about the salaries of teachers and b*tching about what they do when he's busy tossing singles up on a stage by noon every day, and getting re fueled doing lines off his desk.

You obviously have no idea what comprises the financial industry and who works there. That you just (stereotypically, no less) described a small fraction of specific workers (brokers/traders?) of just one part of the financial industry comes as no surprise - the 80s and 90s called and want you to stop disparaging a lifestyle not really seen since! Stop watching Wall Street and The Wolf of Wall Street, and thinking they are movies about contemporary times, because that seems to be your sole source of info! How about you list out the sectors/businesses that make up the financial industry to demonstrate you even know what it is - impress us with your knowledge. Either way, it either short circuits your myopic/ignorant comments above or will perpetuate your ignorance, but have at it.

Ahhhh, so says the hypocrite who stereotyped teachers! Thanks, but why don't you take a quick bump and get back to the strip club.

Stereotyped teachers where . . . ???! And I have never worked in investments, as a trader or a broker . . . try again!

Okay, I'll try again, you work in a shallow and self serving industry filled with drug abusers, misogynists and adulterers. How's that? Certainly factually correct. Hope that works better for you.

wow....gotta chime in on this. click on below links (and those are just a few)....sorry PE teacher, in a profession (teaching) that is inundated with criminals/predators who use the power/authority to prey on minors shouldn't be sniping at anyones chosen profession

http://abc11.com/tag/teacher-arrested/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/slideshow...-with-students.html#/slide/loryn-Barclay
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/09/29/bay-shore-high-school-teachers-assistant-arrested/

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

I'll say it again, those who work on the street are money hungry, drug abusing, misogynist adulterer alcoholics. Don't care what you say, how you say it, that's the facts!! good luck with that career coke head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll say it again, those who work on the street are money hungry, drug abusing, misogynist adulterer alcoholics. Don't care what you say, how you say it, that's the facts!! good luck with that career coke head.

Is anyway we can ban Elizabeth Warren from babbling on this site anymore....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll say it again, those who work on the street are money hungry, drug abusing, misogynist adulterer alcoholics. Don't care what you say, how you say it, that's the facts!! good luck with that career coke head.

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Any truth to the rumor that the BBP coach is going to Sayville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Any truth to the rumor that the BBP coach is going to Sayville?

No. Not at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll say it again, those who work on the street are money hungry, drug abusing, misogynist adulterer alcoholics. Don't care what you say, how you say it, that's the facts!! good luck with that career coke head.

Is anyway we can ban Elizabeth Warren from babbling on this site anymore....

Why? the truth hurts? You had no problem ripping PE teachers, but now that you're exposed as a blow hound with a stripper fetish people should be banned?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll say it again, those who work on the street are money hungry, drug abusing, misogynist adulterer alcoholics. Don't care what you say, how you say it, that's the facts!! good luck with that career coke head.

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??!

Drugs, strippers and self serving misogynists, enough said. Keep defending yourself I'll keep commenting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??![/quote]

For a big Wall Street Finance Guy, he sure has a lot of time to spend commenting on botc. Glad I’m not one of his investors!

Is anyway we can ban Elizabeth Warren from babbling on this site anymore....[/quote]

He is a teacher....what do you expect. Do as little as possible, get paid for it and be protected by a union. He may be left of Warren.

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??![/quote]

Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having intercourse with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

You can have Cromwell back!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

You can have Cromwell back!!

Why??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

You can have Cromwell back!!

Hasn't he been awesome at Manhasset?

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??![/quote]

Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having intercourse with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Except I'm not a teacher...I was defending the PE teacher you slammed. [/quote]

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??![/quote]

Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having intercourse with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Except I'm not a teacher...I was defending the PE teacher you slammed. [/quote]

The best part of this whole exchange is that the guy thinks he is arguing with the "finance guy", when in reality there are numerous responders. #DoesntGetHowAnonymousBoardsWork

Anyone know anything about Northport? My nephew plays for them and they had a decent year last year losing to WM in the 2nd round. Returning players or chances at having a good season??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else think it is way to early to be making predictions?

LOL - Anything is better than another diatribe about the virtues of a career in education.

LIC A WM over Farmingdale
LIC B GC over RP
LIC C SWR over LV
LIC D Babylon over OB

Not sure about LV over CSH this year, but I would put them over CSH for the 2019 and 2020 seasons.

Is anyway we can ban Elizabeth Warren from babbling on this site anymore....[/quote]

He is a teacher....what do you expect. Do as little as possible, get paid for it and be protected by a union. He may be left of Warren.
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Right, who teaches YOUR child and coaches your child! Hahahahaha, 8 hours a day! You don’t spend that much time with him, too busy with “clients” hahahaha! Remember that boob!

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The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??!

Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having sex with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Except I'm not a teacher...I was defending the PE teacher you slammed. [/quote]

The best part of this whole exchange is that the guy thinks he is arguing with the "finance guy", when in reality there are numerous responders. #DoesntGetHowAnonymousBoardsWork[/quote]

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Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having intercourse with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Except I'm not a teacher...I was defending the PE teacher you slammed.

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The best part of this whole exchange is that the guy thinks he is arguing with the "finance guy", when in reality there are numerous responders. #DoesntGetHowAnonymousBoardsWork[/quote]

Not the finance guy . . .

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Quote

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??!

Good lord, I hope you're not really a teacher. Anyone who stereotypes an entire industry because of few bad apples should never be around children. So according to your logic all these "teachers" that have been caught having intercourse with their students are representative of "ALL" teachers? If that's the case, then "YOU" by your own logic are child sexual predator...

Except I'm not a teacher...I was defending the PE teacher you slammed. [/quote]

Ha...not a teacher...sore loser. You are the good Samaritan coming to the aid of the overpaid and lefty teacher. Ohhhh nice.....I get it...your Bernie Sanders. Go trim your eyebrows and put your teeth in. Its dinner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

You can have Cromwell back!!

Hasn't he been awesome at Manhasset?

Awesome at what? Manhasset not a priority. Gets paid to run Igloo and will only show up in Manhasset for the spring. A program like Manhasset expects more than a part time effort.

All you Chaminade promoters, HUGE h bust at school today. There is this garbage everywhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Only half the kids play in these games, so they mean nothing. No varsity football player is taking a chance if their team is in a playoff run to play fall lacrosse. It is a good workout, and fun. That is all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

Agree completely. I guess it is forgotten that a great majority of lacrosse players also play football or other fall sports so that plus being a senior and likely partying Friday and Saturday it is seriously doubtful that the "A" players are showing up. I know over the summer after all the showcases and tourneys my son's varsity team also did the Huntington Summer league and it was rare that everyone or even the top player's would show on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree completely. I guess it is forgotten that a great majority of lacrosse players also play football or other fall sports so that plus being a senior and likely partying Friday and Saturday it is seriously doubtful that the "A" players are showing up. I know over the summer after all the showcases and tourneys my son's varsity team also did the Huntington Summer league and it was rare that everyone or even the top player's would show on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

so glad this parity of a post received such insightful replies..... it was a joke, as is the fall league but talking about the Farmingdale league is still better than the wall street / PE occupation debate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you Chaminade promoters, HUGE h bust at school today. There is this garbage everywhere

Thanks for trying

Well it is October on a lacrosse chat site so what else are we gonna talk about? Besides, at least for once it is staying clean and not to personal. What happened to them making everyone register and no more anonymous postings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree completely. I guess it is forgotten that a great majority of lacrosse players also play football or other fall sports so that plus being a senior and likely partying Friday and Saturday it is seriously doubtful that the "A" players are showing up. I know over the summer after all the showcases and tourneys my son's varsity team also did the Huntington Summer league and it was rare that everyone or even the top player's would show on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

so glad this parity of a post received such insightful replies..... it was a joke, as is the fall league but talking about the Farmingdale league is still better than the wall street / PE occupation debate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree completely. I guess it is forgotten that a great majority of lacrosse players also play football or other fall sports so that plus being a senior and likely partying Friday and Saturday it is seriously doubtful that the "A" players are showing up. I know over the summer after all the showcases and tourneys my son's varsity team also did the Huntington Summer league and it was rare that everyone or even the top player's would show on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

so glad this parity of a post received such insightful replies..... it was a joke, as is the fall league but talking about the Farmingdale league is still better than the wall street / PE occupation debate

"parody" . . .SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What schools are looking to fill HC vacancies? I know that Sayville and Half Hollow Hills East is. Half Hollow Hills West lost TR and replaced him with the JV coach who is an Alumni of the school. Who else?

East is filled. Sayville is the only one I know that is open and all of a sudden that has gone very quiet, on these boards.

Locust Valley doesn't have a coach....

You can have Cromwell back!!

Hasn't he been awesome at Manhasset?

Awesome at what? Manhasset not a priority. Gets paid to run Igloo and will only show up in Manhasset for the spring. A program like Manhasset expects more than a part time effort.

Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree completely. I guess it is forgotten that a great majority of lacrosse players also play football or other fall sports so that plus being a senior and likely partying Friday and Saturday it is seriously doubtful that the "A" players are showing up. I know over the summer after all the showcases and tourneys my son's varsity team also did the Huntington Summer league and it was rare that everyone or even the top player's would show on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

This is funny. Are you really following fall ball this closely. Many teams will not have all their players. Kids are playing football and soccer. I believe the playoffs are being played.

My son's team has played every week with a skeleton squad - so meaningless other than getting a good workout in and a few extra looks with the stick in your hand . . . trying to read anything out of these games is absolutely pathetic! By all means, go and root for your son(s) and their teams, but leave it at that!

so glad this parity of a post received such insightful replies..... it was a joke, as is the fall league but talking about the Farmingdale league is still better than the wall street / PE occupation debate

"parody" . . .SMH

LOL - had to google SMH, I should have googled parity vs. parody before posting, it is with great shame and humiliation that I will make a self imposed 48 hour posting ban punishment for that.

I will not post again until Sunday after the PW/WM game, GO PATRIOTS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Well, I guess the game lived up to the hype. Both teams played with skeleton squads and it ended in a tie game. I will ponder what could have been, and only if my son only scored. Would they have carried him off the field like Rudy. Ohhh what could have been. All those D1 coaches watching on the sideline. Lol.

The financial services industry includes accounting, insurance, credit cards, credit unions, banks, credit-card companies, insurance companies, accountancy companies, consumer-finance companies, and yes, stock brokerages and investment funds. Yet, you are portraying the workers of an entire industry on an outdated stereotype of a small sliver of workers from just two of these eleven types of firms?? That's some pretty good intellect you've showing there - what schools did you attend that imparted such strong critical thinking skills to allow you to arrive at this conclusion??![/quote]

Keep defending yourself I'll keep commenting.[/quote]

Ha...not a teacher...sore loser. You are the good Samaritan coming to the aid of the overpaid and lefty teacher. Ohhhh nice.....I get it...your Bernie Sanders. Go trim your eyebrows and put your teeth in. Its dinner
[/quote]

Hahahaha, thanks cole head. I’ll remember that Monday when junior comes to class and in April when we start up! Say hi to the girls on the pole! Hahahahaha, jealous clown!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Well, I guess the game lived up to the hype. Both teams played with skeleton squads and it ended in a tie game. I will ponder what could have been, and only if my son only scored. Would they have carried him off the field like Rudy. Ohhh what could have been. All those D1 coaches watching on the sideline. Lol.

Well that game was a fun and well played one by both teams. They were both undermanned and everyone played a lot. Two good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Which game are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Which game are you talking about?

Syosset JV only played one game - where is the confusion . . . ?

Who cares, fall ball means nothing. My 9th grader started for his Varsity team yesterday. There is no way he will even make Varisty when the whole squad shows up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Which game are you talking about?

Syosset JV only played one game - where is the confusion . . . ?

You didn't get the sarcasm, did ya. Your talking about JV fall ball. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Which game are you talking about?

Syosset JV only played one game - where is the confusion . . . ?

You didn't get the sarcasm, did ya. Your talking about JV fall ball. Lol.

Effective sarcasm is only effective when it's obvious that it is sarcasm - work on that, will ya'?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

big weekend at Farmingdale fall league with HHHW v. HHHE in both the JV and Varsity division - predictions?

JV
Syo over LV
HHHE over HHHW
LV over HHHE

Varsity
Slakwear over Syosset
HHHW over Roslyn
PW over WM
HHHE over HHHW

The game of the day is on the varsity level with PW playing WM, get their early seats will be filling up fast

Skeleton crew of pure 9th graders bested Syosset JV . . .

Which game are you talking about?

Syosset JV only played one game - where is the confusion . . . ?

You didn't get the sarcasm, did ya. Your talking about JV fall ball. Lol.

Effective sarcasm is only effective when it's obvious that it is sarcasm - work on that, will ya'?!

You guys over at LV are the Farmingdale Fall League Champions with that uuuuuuge win over Syosset JV.

You guys over at LV are the Farmingdale Fall League Champions with that uuuuuuge win over Syosset JV.[/quote]

Yeah HHHW is awesome because they beat the 6 Roslyn players who showed, and the 5 9th graders that HHHW sent over.

Looking for HS(not club) JV & varsity teams to play the first 3 Sundays in December (3,10,17) We have several teams already committed. Need 1 more team for each group you can contact me at fsyouthlax@gmail.com for more info cost is very reasonable we are playing in Western Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for HS(not club) JV & varsity teams to play the first 3 Sundays in December (3,10,17) We have several teams already committed. Need 1 more team for each group you can contact me at fsyouthlax@gmail.com for more info cost is very reasonable we are playing in Western Nassau

What is going on 12/3, 10 & 17 and where?

Anyone doing the Prime Time College Experience that is coming up?

Originally Posted by NassauLaxDad516

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for HS(not club) JV & varsity teams to play the first 3 Sundays in December (3,10,17) We have several teams already committed. Need 1 more team for each group you can contact me at fsyouthlax@gmail.com for more info cost is very reasonable we are playing in Western Nassau

What is going on 12/3, 10 & 17 and where?

Why not email the guy and find out ??? It you have a team

Does anyone know the history of why Section VIII and XI must play each other to advance to the state tournament? It seems grossly unfair to limit our sections from only advancing one team each year when it could be argued that in some years, they both might be the best two teams in the state, and in others, they both may have been better than many other teams that advanced.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know the history of why Section VIII and XI must play each other to advance to the state tournament? It seems grossly unfair to limit our sections from only advancing one team each year when it could be argued that in some years, they both might be the best two teams in the state, and in others, they both may have been better than many other teams that advanced.

I believe it just simple geography. We are close to Nassau.

In '79 I know CSH and Sachem met in the State Final, so at some point after that. 1986 Was the first year the tournament was broken into "A" and
"B" classes I believe. The format changed at some point between those years I believe.

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

The rest of NYS has to deal with all of the issues you've raised - NYS is fairly large state.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

The rest of NYS has to deal with all of the issues you've raised - NYS is fairly large state.

Really - you want to compare Orchard Park to Pittsfield and Orchard Park to Ward Melville? you are talking the difference between missing two days of school, taking a coach bus and staying overnight in a hotel vs. leaving school a little early and taking a school bus. not to mention the families and friends not being able to go to the games or making huge sacrifices to go. And imagine the reaction when your school district says you might need to layout $150 - $200 for your kid to play in a quarter final game.

The make pairings in D1 opening games based on travel distances I think doing it in HS makes total sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

The rest of NYS has to deal with all of the issues you've raised - NYS is fairly large state.

Really - you want to compare Orchard Park to Pittsfield and Orchard Park to Ward Melville? you are talking the difference between missing two days of school, taking a coach bus and staying overnight in a hotel vs. leaving school a little early and taking a school bus. not to mention the families and friends not being able to go to the games or making huge sacrifices to go. And imagine the reaction when your school district says you might need to layout $150 - $200 for your kid to play in a quarter final game.

The make pairings in D1 opening games based on travel distances I think doing it in HS makes total sense.

Logistics aside, it totally takes away the opportunity for legitimate teams to vie for a state championship . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

The rest of NYS has to deal with all of the issues you've raised - NYS is fairly large state.

Really - you want to compare Orchard Park to Pittsfield and Orchard Park to Ward Melville? you are talking the difference between missing two days of school, taking a coach bus and staying overnight in a hotel vs. leaving school a little early and taking a school bus. not to mention the families and friends not being able to go to the games or making huge sacrifices to go. And imagine the reaction when your school district says you might need to layout $150 - $200 for your kid to play in a quarter final game.

The make pairings in D1 opening games based on travel distances I think doing it in HS makes total sense.

Logistics aside, it totally takes away the opportunity for legitimate teams to vie for a state championship . . .

Too bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say that it has everything to do with travel and time away from school. With finals, AP ect. imagine if they seeded the tournament and you were a team from western NY and you played Suffolk in the first round went home and had to come back three days later to play Nassau and go home and come back and play a State Championship at Hofstra all while finals and testing were going on.

The rest of NYS has to deal with all of the issues you've raised - NYS is fairly large state.

Really - you want to compare Orchard Park to Pittsfield and Orchard Park to Ward Melville? you are talking the difference between missing two days of school, taking a coach bus and staying overnight in a hotel vs. leaving school a little early and taking a school bus. not to mention the families and friends not being able to go to the games or making huge sacrifices to go. And imagine the reaction when your school district says you might need to layout $150 - $200 for your kid to play in a quarter final game.

The make pairings in D1 opening games based on travel distances I think doing it in HS makes total sense.

Logistics aside, it totally takes away the opportunity for legitimate teams to vie for a state championship . . .

Too bad.

I'm sure Smithtown East in 2014 had a problem with it . . .

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Nope, the the Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association, and US Lacrosse.

Doesn't matter the order, you have win them all to get the ring. Would it feel better to lose the game in the Championship of the State tournament as opposed to the first round?? I don't think so. Every year that Cold Spring Harbor has won the Nassau County Championship they have either gone on to win the State tournament or lost to the eventual champion along the way (out of Suffolk). Every year. No complaints. If you can win the island, you have no business playing for the State championship.

Coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Nope, the the Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association, and US Lacrosse.

Yes, those exemplary organizations... Ha!

NCLCA just as bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Nope, the the Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association, and US Lacrosse.

Yes, those exemplary organizations... Ha!

NCLCA just as bad.

So....what is the"good" organization? The coaches have it all wrong? Me thinks your son didn't live up to expectations?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Nope, the the Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association, and US Lacrosse.

Yes, those exemplary organizations... Ha!

NCLCA just as bad.

Bought and paid for by LU. Everyone knows.

Still Looking for HS(not club) 1 JV & 1 varsity team to play the first 3 Sundays in December (3,10,17) We have several teams already committed. Need 1 more team for each group you can contact me at fsyouthlax@gmail.com for more info cost is very reasonable we are playing in Western Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they should have won when they had the chance. Most disappointing teams in recent memory. That is why they play the games.

They may not have won a state title, but they certainly had a few years getting the greatest number of boys into high-level programs (Academic and Athletic), with big-time scholarships....which in the long run would be far more important. Three straight years with #1players in the County. Not too shabby!

As per the bought and sold lax expert or magazine??? Sorry...Both

Nope, the the Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association, and US Lacrosse.

Yes, those exemplary organizations... Ha!

NCLCA just as bad.

Bought and paid for by LU. Everyone knows.

Jealous much?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't matter the order, you have win them all to get the ring. Would it feel better to lose the game in the Championship of the State tournament as opposed to the first round?? I don't think so. Every year that Cold Spring Harbor has won the Nassau County Championship they have either gone on to win the State tournament or lost to the eventual champion along the way (out of Suffolk). Every year. No complaints. If you can win the island, you have no business playing for the State championship.

The order of games does matter. Look at Section 1, they have a cake walk every year deep into the playoffs while we have knock down, drag out brawls every game. It has an impact without a doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't matter the order, you have win them all to get the ring. Would it feel better to lose the game in the Championship of the State tournament as opposed to the first round?? I don't think so. Every year that Cold Spring Harbor has won the Nassau County Championship they have either gone on to win the State tournament or lost to the eventual champion along the way (out of Suffolk). Every year. No complaints. If you can win the island, you have no business playing for the State championship.

The order of games does matter. Look at Section 1, they have a cake walk every year deep into the playoffs while we have knock down, drag out brawls every game. It has an impact without a doubt.

In 2014, Massapequa has a cake walk to the state championship after their only tough game against Smithtown E. That's not to take anything away from Massapequa.

The order does matter. Not everyone wins the title. Some eams are proud making the playoffs. Some are ecstatic winning a first round game. If your not one of the select few programs, making the county semifinals or finals is a great year.
If the true state championship is played to get off the island, the loser should be a stAte finalist. Not just a section champ.

You win your county, the next goal is the State. No one cares about the games in between for--they are part of the road.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You win your county, the next goal is the State. No one cares about the games in between for--they are part of the road.

The first brackets beyond county (section) could be more regional - there is no reason why Nassau & Suffolk can't be in a regional bracket that includes Sections 1 and 9. Games to the northern reaches of 1 and 9 are 3 hours or less and do not require overnight stays.

The order certainly matters. Section has a cake walk every year. They play the better sections at the very end of the bracket when they are battered, while they play patsies. Order matters.

Any teams this weekend giving a look to any 8th graders on varsity? If so, embrace the experience and play your game.

I can tell you from 100% first hand experience that this is patently false.....in fact I think the exact opposite may be true....so you sound foolish...If you want to name the kid do it...and Ill tell you how the coaches voted to shut you up....and dont hide behind the "hes a kid" excuse because youve basically outed him anyway so be a man (or a woman) and tell us who youre talking about that got undeserved awards

[quote=Anonymous]I can tell you from 100% first hand experience that this is patently false.....in fact I think the exact opposite may be true....so you sound foolish...If you want to name the kid do it...and Ill tell you how the coaches voted to shut you up....and dont hide behind the "hes a kid" excuse because youve basically outed him anyway so be a man (or a woman) and tell us who youre talking about that got undeserved awards[/quote

what post are you replying do?

is that a question or a statement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any teams this weekend giving a look to any 8th graders on varsity? If so, embrace the experience and play your game.

What winter training does your high school do? My son's school rents an indoor for 90 minutes a week, and holds after school sessions when it is nice out.

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Job has been posted for sometime now. Haven’t heard of anyone applying for it. I would think it would be very desirable job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Because they cant win in the lax league they are in...Football they play in a very weak league and win some games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Because they cant win in the lax league they are in...Football they play in a very weak league and win some games

Not from Sayville but that sounds like a very jealous parent. Sayville has apparently been your sons nemesis for quite some time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Because they cant win in the lax league they are in...Football they play in a very weak league and win some games

Not from Sayville but that sounds like a very jealous parent. Sayville has apparently been your sons nemesis for quite some time.

Thanks for your opinion...."not from Sayville" snowflake

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

Seriously? You're expecting a honest answer for this here on BOTC?? And even if you are, there's nowhere near enough info presented . . .

Yeesh!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

He goes home and tells his parents and the parents then go to Coach,AD and BOE and threatens legal action?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

Mom please stop, this is called being a boy. Boys and teammates fight, make up and move on. Its not like girls who will hold a grudge for 12 years. Boys a simple and when its over its over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the latest word on the Sayville head coach opening?

Only 1 guy even wants the job and it’s the one person that the BOE doesn’t want to give it to. Should be interesting.

Who? I would think that would be a very desirable job. The team has a great reputation and plenty of post season appearances, considering the program is only about 15 years old.

Apparently it’s not such a great job and based on what I read here who in there right mind would want to deal with the parents! Only to hear some dad fawning of another coach like a scorned prom date!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

Oh dear....teenaged boys competing and having a fight. What a calamity!!!... Freakin Snowflakes. But then again this is NY the liberal capital of the world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

So heard your answer, assuming you are one of the parents, both boys kicked off team permanently, no reinstatement.! That’s fair. Both problems gone, move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh dear....teenaged boys competing and having a fight. What a calamity!!!... Freakin Snowflakes. But then again this is NY the liberal capital of the world.

Totally true. Plus, those two kids are snowflakes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

So the star of the team throws punches at a scrub with the coach present and at a school sanctioned event - The correct course of action should be to check with the star and make sure he is OK, tell him to never take off his gloves when throwing a punch and never punch a helmet (too much of an injury risk) and kick the scrub off the team for provocation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

So the star of the team throws punches at a scrub with the coach present and at a school sanctioned event - The correct course of action should be to check with the star and make sure he is OK, tell him to never take off his gloves when throwing a punch and never punch a helmet (too much of an injury risk) and kick the scrub off the team for provocation.

I dont think anything in the fall is school sanctioned. It may be the players and coaches playing together in an event but its not school sanctioned

Go get a life who cares what happens in a gym during pick up games you think this is the first time two kids got into an a fight at a school practice . Please go get a life and worry if your kid is going to step on the field this year or if he is actually going to make the Varsity team . We all know you are a miserable person .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

He goes home and tells his parents and the parents then go to Coach,AD and BOE and threatens legal action?

Only in Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

He goes home and tells his parents and the parents then go to Coach,AD and BOE and threatens legal action?

Only in Syosset.

And only if their pants are on!

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

He goes home and tells his parents and the parents then go to Coach,AD and BOE and threatens legal action?

Only in Syosset.

And only if their pants are on!

Welcome to the new generation, i was in number of fights at school and on the field. my parents never knew about it, no one posted on their facebook and I am still friends with 2 of the guys I used to fight with constantly. And we still cheap shot each other as much as we can. The new generation sux.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happens to a kid when they throw punches in a HS open gym lax practice?

so many factors to consider - was the HC present? was the player throwing the punches a star? was the player getting hit a star? was this a sanctioned school event. My guess is that nothing will happen unless it was a second string kid sucker punching a star or an older kid going after a younger kid. More then likely the kids have already moved on and the parents are still bothered.

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

So the star of the team throws punches at a scrub with the coach present and at a school sanctioned event - The correct course of action should be to check with the star and make sure he is OK, tell him to never take off his gloves when throwing a punch and never punch a helmet (too much of an injury risk) and kick the scrub off the team for provocation.

Exact course of action I would take. Stars score and win games..scrubs are expendable ...This will send a message to other players. Work harder and become a star!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Fights will happen in s[ports especially contact sports. You always want your players playing at that edge. The lesson will be if on the same team can they get over it.

As much as the team could be playing on the school fields and with the coaches not sure it is truly sanctioned but this day and age is different. Me I say, coach takes care of it his way, which will hopefully be both yes both boys are running, as well as the team. Use this as a team building exercise and move on, if things cant move on and there is an underlying issue, coach has to use his judgement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Lol that is funny, but probably true or someone really close to him anyway. Either way why publicize it is my question. Those impacted knew this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fights will happen in s[ports especially contact sports. You always want your players playing at that edge. The lesson will be if on the same team can they get over it.

As much as the team could be playing on the school fields and with the coaches not sure it is truly sanctioned but this day and age is different. Me I say, coach takes care of it his way, which will hopefully be both yes both boys are running, as well as the team. Use this as a team building exercise and move on, if things cant move on and there is an underlying issue, coach has to use his judgement.

additonaly, if player is a captn he is stripped of that title until he proves he is better than that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fights will happen in s[ports especially contact sports. You always want your players playing at that edge. The lesson will be if on the same team can they get over it.

As much as the team could be playing on the school fields and with the coaches not sure it is truly sanctioned but this day and age is different. Me I say, coach takes care of it his way, which will hopefully be both yes both boys are running, as well as the team. Use this as a team building exercise and move on, if things cant move on and there is an underlying issue, coach has to use his judgement.

Just broken ankles from getting burned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fights will happen in s[ports especially contact sports. You always want your players playing at that edge. The lesson will be if on the same team can they get over it.

As much as the team could be playing on the school fields and with the coaches not sure it is truly sanctioned but this day and age is different. Me I say, coach takes care of it his way, which will hopefully be both yes both boys are running, as well as the team. Use this as a team building exercise and move on, if things cant move on and there is an underlying issue, coach has to use his judgement.

Just broken ankles from getting burned.

what does getting burnt have to do with this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fights will happen in s[ports especially contact sports. You always want your players playing at that edge. The lesson will be if on the same team can they get over it.

As much as the team could be playing on the school fields and with the coaches not sure it is truly sanctioned but this day and age is different. Me I say, coach takes care of it his way, which will hopefully be both yes both boys are running, as well as the team. Use this as a team building exercise and move on, if things cant move on and there is an underlying issue, coach has to use his judgement.

Lay off the sauce in the middle of the day. Your response is more or less nonsense. I don't know what specifically happened but, if serious enough, players need to know there are consequences. Otherwise these kids will go through life thinking they can get away with something because he is good at a sport. It may suck for the team that a star player has to sit out a few games but I would rather the kid learn the lesson now vs. later in life when the consequences are much more serious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Lol that is funny, but probably true or someone really close to him anyway. Either way why publicize it is my question. Those impacted knew this.

Two years to correct an injustice deserves a mention on this board full of bitter losers. Congratulations to Coach Doller and the entire Sayville program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Lol that is funny, but probably true or someone really close to him anyway. Either way why publicize it is my question. Those impacted knew this.

Two years to correct an injustice deserves a mention on this board full of bitter losers. Congratulations to Coach Doller and the entire Sayville program.

Please....Sayville is a low level lax program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Lol that is funny, but probably true or someone really close to him anyway. Either way why publicize it is my question. Those impacted knew this.

Two years to correct an injustice deserves a mention on this board full of bitter losers. Congratulations to Coach Doller and the entire Sayville program.

Please....Sayville is a low level lax program.

Can you give an example of a "high level" program in their division?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coach Doller is back at Sayville! Our boys are excited!
Congratulations Coach Doller . Welcome back!

You are oddly obsessed with this man, like REALLY REALLY obsessed. I would suggest to Coach D to get an order of protection from you.

Lol that is funny, but probably true or someone really close to him anyway. Either way why publicize it is my question. Those impacted knew this.

Two years to correct an injustice deserves a mention on this board full of bitter losers. Congratulations to Coach Doller and the entire Sayville program.

Please....Sayville is a low level lax program.

Can you give an example of a "high level" program in their division?

Everyone but Sayville you oddball! Seriously you remind me of Jame Gumb. If you don’t recall or know the name, do a quick search, you are him to a T!!! Scary

Who is Jame Gump????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is Jame Gump????

He is credited with the hardest lacrosse shot clocked at 120 mph. He is NOT from Sayville

Ok ladies & gents, how about some real talk. Anyone know the Rankings for Nassau and Suffolk? BOTC should come out with that if it can't be found anywhere.

Class C in Nassau is the power conference by far. CSH LV Wantagh Bethpage Lynbrook North Shore Floral Park. All teams are very good. No easy wins. Very tough conf

wantagh please....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Class C in Nassau is the power conference by far. CSH LV Wantagh Bethpage Lynbrook North Shore Floral Park. All teams are very good. No easy wins. Very tough conf

On all of LI?

Nassau A
Pequa
Syo
Port
Farm

ok class A has those 4 and after that big drop off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok class A has those 4 and after that big drop off

Bethpage? Hardly a powerhouse!
Wantagh? Average at best.
Floral Park? Couldn’t get past Roosevelt, and they don’t even have a team!

U sir are absolutely clueless about Nassau county lax! Floral park doesn't have a team? [ChillLaxin] go on lax power and look up class c. Bethpage is very solid and wantagh will be very good this year. Not even from those towns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U sir are absolutely clueless about Nassau county lax! Floral park doesn't have a team? [ChillLaxin] go on lax power and look up class c. Bethpage is very solid and wantagh will be very good this year. Not even from those towns.

Go back to Great Neck.

Lol go back to great neck? Ur a total bafoon. Another guy probably never saw an athletic field and talking big. What town are you? so maybe we can get one of those teams to play your sons in a scrimmage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol go back to great neck? Ur a total bafoon. Another guy probably never saw an athletic field and talking big. What town are you? so maybe we can get one of those teams to play your sons in a scrimmage.

What’s a bafoon? Have you ever seen the inside of a classroom? More time with books, less time with stick, BUFFOON!

Lol good one! That's all you can come up with? Why because you know your statements were wrong. Class C is by far best conference all around in Nassau county. Watch how many class c teams win non conference games this year.

I'm a class C parent, and C is weak. Probably better than B top to bottom ex GC and Manhasset, but Bethpage, Wantagh, LV really are not that good. A has been getting better and is now deeper than B and C. The top team in Nassau year in and year out is either CSH, GC or Manhasset with Syosset and Massapequa taking turns trying to challenge the little schools... this year Massapequa is tops. Truth spoken.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good one! That's all you can come up with? Why because you know your statements were wrong. Class C is by far best conference all around in Nassau county. Watch how many class c teams win non conference games this year.

Hate to break it to you there slick but more than one person on this thread thinks you know little if anything about Nassau County Lacrosse. But the MOST laughable thing about your post "bafoon" is your statement that you're not from a Conference C school. Regardless of your lack spelling prowess, Class C would get smoked by the top dogs in A and B. The only team which would compere and win in either conference is CSH, the others would be lucky to survive a double digit destruction, but you just keep on carrying on there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm a class C parent, and C is weak. Probably better than B top to bottom ex GC and Manhasset, but Bethpage, Wantagh, LV really are not that good. A has been getting better and is now deeper than B and C. The top team in Nassau year in and year out is either CSH, GC or Manhasset with Syosset and Massapequa taking turns trying to challenge the little schools... this year Massapequa is tops. Truth spoken.

How wrong will your assessment be when CSH isn't the best team in C?!

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

Finally a truth talker - 2018 will start the string of PW winning the County Championships - I do not see how anybody can challenge them in the next 10 years in that division - maybe WM can run with them in the LIC but unless someone pulls off a major upset PW should be undefeated this year - nobody within 5 goals of them in the "A" league that is for sure - obviously

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

Finally a truth talker - 2018 will start the string of PW winning the County Championships - I do not see how anybody can challenge them in the next 10 years in that division - maybe WM can run with them in the LIC but unless someone pulls off a major upset PW should be undefeated this year - nobody within 5 goals of them in the "A" league that is for sure - obviously

Well-duh! Everyone knows that!

Lol. Good holiday spirit and good pot stirring. The pequa guys must at the head of the five families luncheon and the Dalers on the job site so neither can come in here and refute the above claims...boy wait till the get wind of the Syo/Port bravado. a hit may be forthcoming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

Finally a truth talker - 2018 will start the string of PW winning the County Championships - I do not see how anybody can challenge them in the next 10 years in that division - maybe WM can run with them in the LIC but unless someone pulls off a major upset PW should be undefeated this year - nobody within 5 goals of them in the "A" league that is for sure - obviously

Well-duh! Everyone knows that!

It must be true. I just read it on the internet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

Finally a truth talker - 2018 will start the string of PW winning the County Championships - I do not see how anybody can challenge them in the next 10 years in that division - maybe WM can run with them in the LIC but unless someone pulls off a major upset PW should be undefeated this year - nobody within 5 goals of them in the "A" league that is for sure - obviously

Well-duh! Everyone knows that!

It must be true. I just read it on the internet

If Dickie Dunn wrote it, it must be true - heard that Port is in talks to relocate to a southern community where the old timers are dying for a lacrosse team....they built the stadium

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

Don't count out CSH. They have one of the best sophomore classes on the Island. They are losing a strong senior class but have better talent coming up. Look for them to 3- Peat this year.

Lol again. Someone is definitely stirring the pot again posing as a Port poster...not buying it...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

Don't count out CSH. They have one of the best sophomore classes on the Island. They are losing a strong senior class but have better talent coming up. Look for them to 3- Peat this year.

It would be a 4-peat donkey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

LV beat Port in 2014 and 2016 and CSH got smoked by Syosset in 2015 one of CSH state championship years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Yeah - that 8-7 win over LV last season must of have been a real beat down!

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

It my not in a 10-3 game because there were a few late goals or or a bad 5 minutes that spread the score. But it does in an 8-7 game. one goal is one goal

Nice Syosset, you picked one of two examples in the last decade when you were able to beat your little neighbor to the East...keep chasing them...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

Well I guess this thread will be held hostage by the Port "fan" like it has in the past. Funny thing.....the team has never won anything and is marginally competitive. But have at it Port "fan". Merry Christmas.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

It my not in a 10-3 game because there were a few late goals or or a bad 5 minutes that spread the score. But it does in an 8-7 game. one goal is one goal

I happened to have been at that game, as a friend's son played for LV - LV had more possession and shot wide of the net about a dozen and half times - if just a handful of those shots had been on net, LV wins that game, and that's in addition to the PW G standing on his head. And yes, the LV G was equally as good, but h e didn't face nearly the number of shots. Also thrown into the mix is that LV did all of that w/ no FOGO, and when I say no FOGO, I mean none. They didn't even have a guy at the X that was average! That turned out to be their problem later in the brackets as they could score and play D with anyone, but they couldn't win faceoffs and didn't possess the ball enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

It my not in a 10-3 game because there were a few late goals or or a bad 5 minutes that spread the score. But it does in an 8-7 game. one goal is one goal

I happened to have been at that game, as a friend's son played for LV - LV had more possession and shot wide of the net about a dozen and half times - if just a handful of those shots had been on net, LV wins that game, and that's in addition to the PW G standing on his head. And yes, the LV G was equally as good, but h e didn't face nearly the number of shots. Also thrown into the mix is that LV did all of that w/ no FOGO, and when I say no FOGO, I mean none. They didn't even have a guy at the X that was average! That turned out to be their problem later in the brackets as they could score and play D with anyone, but they couldn't win faceoffs and didn't possess the ball enough.

Wow - i cant even remember either of my sons game in this detail, and you remember it about a friends kids game.. you are good my friend, you are good. Have A Merry Christmas you filthy animals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

It my not in a 10-3 game because there were a few late goals or or a bad 5 minutes that spread the score. But it does in an 8-7 game. one goal is one goal

I happened to have been at that game, as a friend's son played for LV - LV had more possession and shot wide of the net about a dozen and half times - if just a handful of those shots had been on net, LV wins that game. And yes, the LV G was equally as good, but h e didn't face nearly the number of shots. Also thrown into the mix is that LV did all of that w/ no FOGO, and when I say no FOGO, I mean none. They didn't even have a guy at the X that was average! That turned out to be their problem later in the brackets as they could score and play D with anyone, but they couldn't win faceoffs and didn't possess the ball enough.

I guess the players mom is on here again. LOL. You just happened to be at that game. Come on you are just on here trying to get your kid recruited. It shows you have no idea because you think coaches are on here reading about your kid. This is when mom needs to stay off the afternoon juice. Wink wink. Same stuff last year.

Now if you think this is a Port fan " I have a bridge to sell you". Come on who is stupid enough to come on this anonymous site and make these claims, which in turn will result in post after post of backlash. Its just some fool trying to stir the pot. Odds are most of these claims are made by competition to get things going. Yet the only ones that get going are the keyboard warriors and the moms trying to protect their kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port’s 8-7 win was in fact a beat down! Obviously you weren’t at the game. Looked like Varsity playing a 5th grade team. Score doesn’t always reflect what happened on the field.

It my not in a 10-3 game because there were a few late goals or or a bad 5 minutes that spread the score. But it does in an 8-7 game. one goal is one goal

I happened to have been at that game, as a friend's son played for LV - LV had more possession and shot wide of the net about a dozen and half times - if just a handful of those shots had been on net, LV wins that game, and that's in addition to the PW G standing on his head. And yes, the LV G was equally as good, but h e didn't face nearly the number of shots. Also thrown into the mix is that LV did all of that w/ no FOGO, and when I say no FOGO, I mean none. They didn't even have a guy at the X that was average! That turned out to be their problem later in the brackets as they could score and play D with anyone, but they couldn't win faceoffs and didn't possess the ball enough.

I guess the goalies mom is on here again. LOL. You just happened to be at that game. Come on you are just on here trying to get your kid recruited. It shows you have no idea because you think coaches are on here reading about your kid making saves and standing on his head. This is when mom needs to stay off the afternoon juice. Wink wink. Same stuff last year.

Wrong - not a Mom, and my kid ain't on the team. Your pompous, presumptuous attitude that only someone who has a vested interest can possibly post something here about a team is more telling about you than anything! But, please, keep on being bitter and trite - I am sure you are the life of the party!

Lets be real the Championship goes through Massapequa

Massapequa has the talent and the coaching. Radomski has been the head guy since 2010 and has won a lot more than he has lost. Any team that has Powers on the sideline as an assistant has a great coaching staff. He runs a tight ship and gets every ounce of talent out of his players. This years team is talented and the coaches at Massapequa will have them prepared. They may not have the fire power they once had but they have strong players at all positions. From the net on up to attack they dont have any real weakness. If they have one it may be the attack so scores may be more like 9-8 than the high scoring they were used to in the past.

Farmingdales Hungerford has taken the reins in a very confident manner from longtime coach Hartranft (who compiled 708 wins over 48 years) before retirement. Coach Hungerford was an assistant under Hartranft and shows alot of commitment to this program and gets them playing together year round. They will have this team ready to go. This may be a down year though.They are not as deep as they have been in the past and the loss of their goalie to a torn acl is a big one. The underclassmen here will make or break this team senior group not as strong as in the past. Goalie position may be their Achilles heel if their goalie does not return from the injury.

Syossets Calabria may not be everyones favorite but you cant argue with his results. He has won year in and year out for a long time. This may be a tough year doesnt have the depth he once had especially at attack. The loss of key attackman has opened the door for some of the seniors to step up. Some changes of position also will help. They dont have a true stud at faceoff this is big for this team. Need major contributions from the midfield and from the big man on attack. Possession may be their biggest Achilles heel.

Port and its coaching carousel has been a big issue. Every since Coach Case left they have gone through coaches like a hot knife through butter. The current coach Neil throws more temper tantrums on the sideline than a nursery school at nap time. Has a talented group with no standout studs but a good group of players. Will see major contributions from its 10th grade group at midfield. They will live and die by their faceoff and the attacks ability or inability to put the ball on net. Could this be their year to make the finals? Coaching will be a major Achilles heel for this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think its a question of degree. If they are not the best team in C at the end of the season then I'm wrong. Glad to see the conference got some new additions this year to make it more competitive. Which team do you think will win C this year? Which team in B, GC or Set? A I don't think there is any question will be Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, Port.

Pequa and Syo are going to be bad Port is going to win A this year obviously

What happens when they lose to a C team . . . ??

Only C team they play is LV....and they aren’t losing that game-haven’t ever. Hopefully their new coach can have the Falcons ready for whoever else they play...plus, A-B-C doesn’t matter. CSH is C and beats A schools...more kids in the school doesn’t always mean better teams!

Hopefully this can last through May, but no chance a C team cover EVER beat Port. They are in C for a reason for god sakes.

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools?

How about this clown saying C school isn’t based upon ability. Put down the Zima and learn about NC rankings Skippy. Port is ranked 1 in A for a reason bud and will uphold it again as everyone has agreed on here but you!
Whether my son tries hard or not.

I am replying to this persons statement below.. I couldnt quote because it had too many.

"How about this clown saying C school isn’t based upon ability. Put down the Zima and learn about NC rankings Skippy. Port is ranked 1 in A for a reason bud and will uphold it again as everyone has agreed on here but you!
Whether my son tries hard or not."

My response is this:
The rankings are
massapequa
syosset
port
farmingdale
so I would say you need better reading glasses. The divisions are based on school size but caliber of team is based on play on the field. There are a lot of very good teams and the bigger the school always doesnt mean the better the team.

[/quote]

You do realize that A, B, and C has zero to do with the talent/ability of a the schools' programs, and 100% based upon the number of students in the schools? [/quote]

How about this clown saying C school isn’t based upon ability. Put down the Zima and learn about NC rankings Skippy. Port is ranked 1 in A for a reason bud and will uphold it again as everyone has agreed on here but you!
Whether my son tries hard or not.
[/quote]

You might want to stop now before YOU embarrass yourself further...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be real the Championship goes through Massapequa

Massapequa has the talent and the coaching. Radomski has been the head guy since 2010 and has won a lot more than he has lost. Any team that has Powers on the sideline as an assistant has a great coaching staff. He runs a tight ship and gets every ounce of talent out of his players. This years team is talented and the coaches at Massapequa will have them prepared. They may not have the fire power they once had but they have strong players at all positions. From the net on up to attack they dont have any real weakness. If they have one it may be the attack so scores may be more like 9-8 than the high scoring they were used to in the past.

Farmingdales Hungerford has taken the reins in a very confident manner from longtime coach Hartranft (who compiled 708 wins over 48 years) before retirement. Coach Hungerford was an assistant under Hartranft and shows alot of commitment to this program and gets them playing together year round. They will have this team ready to go. This may be a down year though.They are not as deep as they have been in the past and the loss of their goalie to a torn acl is a big one. The underclassmen here will make or break this team senior group not as strong as in the past. Goalie position may be their Achilles heel if their goalie does not return from the injury.

Syossets Calabria may not be everyones favorite but you cant argue with his results. He has won year in and year out for a long time. This may be a tough year doesnt have the depth he once had especially at attack. The loss of key attackman has opened the door for some of the seniors to step up. Some changes of position also will help. They dont have a true stud at faceoff this is big for this team. Need major contributions from the midfield and from the big man on attack. Possession may be their biggest Achilles heel.

Port and its coaching carousel has been a big issue. Every since Coach Case left they have gone through coaches like a hot knife through butter. The current coach Neil throws more temper tantrums on the sideline than a nursery school at nap time. Has a talented group with no standout studs but a good group of players. Will see major contributions from its 10th grade group at midfield. They will live and die by their faceoff and the attacks ability or inability to put the ball on net. Could this be their year to make the finals? Coaching will be a major Achilles heel for this team.

Best post that actually talks about lacrosse in s long time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be real the Championship goes through Massapequa

Massapequa has the talent and the coaching. Radomski has been the head guy since 2010 and has won a lot more than he has lost. Any team that has Powers on the sideline as an assistant has a great coaching staff. He runs a tight ship and gets every ounce of talent out of his players. This years team is talented and the coaches at Massapequa will have them prepared. They may not have the fire power they once had but they have strong players at all positions. From the net on up to attack they dont have any real weakness. If they have one it may be the attack so scores may be more like 9-8 than the high scoring they were used to in the past.

Farmingdales Hungerford has taken the reins in a very confident manner from longtime coach Hartranft (who compiled 708 wins over 48 years) before retirement. Coach Hungerford was an assistant under Hartranft and shows alot of commitment to this program and gets them playing together year round. They will have this team ready to go. This may be a down year though.They are not as deep as they have been in the past and the loss of their goalie to a torn acl is a big one. The underclassmen here will make or break this team senior group not as strong as in the past. Goalie position may be their Achilles heel if their goalie does not return from the injury.

Syossets Calabria may not be everyones favorite but you cant argue with his results. He has won year in and year out for a long time. This may be a tough year doesnt have the depth he once had especially at attack. The loss of key attackman has opened the door for some of the seniors to step up. Some changes of position also will help. They dont have a true stud at faceoff this is big for this team. Need major contributions from the midfield and from the big man on attack. Possession may be their biggest Achilles heel.

Port and its coaching carousel has been a big issue. Every since Coach Case left they have gone through coaches like a hot knife through butter. The current coach Neil throws more temper tantrums on the sideline than a nursery school at nap time. Has a talented group with no standout studs but a good group of players. Will see major contributions from its 10th grade group at midfield. They will live and die by their faceoff and the attacks ability or inability to put the ball on net. Could this be their year to make the finals? Coaching will be a major Achilles heel for this team.

Best post that actually talks about lacrosse in s long time.

Boring

Here are B projections

1. GC
2. Set
3. Southside
4. Hewlett
5. Carey
6. Long Beach
7. Calhoun
8. Mepham
9. MacArthur

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be real the Championship goes through Massapequa

Massapequa has the talent and the coaching. Radomski has been the head guy since 2010 and has won a lot more than he has lost. Any team that has Powers on the sideline as an assistant has a great coaching staff. He runs a tight ship and gets every ounce of talent out of his players. This years team is talented and the coaches at Massapequa will have them prepared. They may not have the fire power they once had but they have strong players at all positions. From the net on up to attack they dont have any real weakness. If they have one it may be the attack so scores may be more like 9-8 than the high scoring they were used to in the past.

Farmingdales Hungerford has taken the reins in a very confident manner from longtime coach Hartranft (who compiled 708 wins over 48 years) before retirement. Coach Hungerford was an assistant under Hartranft and shows alot of commitment to this program and gets them playing together year round. They will have this team ready to go. This may be a down year though.They are not as deep as they have been in the past and the loss of their goalie to a torn acl is a big one. The underclassmen here will make or break this team senior group not as strong as in the past. Goalie position may be their Achilles heel if their goalie does not return from the injury.

Syossets Calabria may not be everyones favorite but you cant argue with his results. He has won year in and year out for a long time. This may be a tough year doesnt have the depth he once had especially at attack. The loss of key attackman has opened the door for some of the seniors to step up. Some changes of position also will help. They dont have a true stud at faceoff this is big for this team. Need major contributions from the midfield and from the big man on attack. Possession may be their biggest Achilles heel.

Port and its coaching carousel has been a big issue. Every since Coach Case left they have gone through coaches like a hot knife through butter. The current coach Neil throws more temper tantrums on the sideline than a nursery school at nap time. Has a talented group with no standout studs but a good group of players. Will see major contributions from its 10th grade group at midfield. They will live and die by their faceoff and the attacks ability or inability to put the ball on net. Could this be their year to make the finals? Coaching will be a major Achilles heel for this team.

Mr. Gambini, that is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out breakdown of the top 4 teams in Nassau County class A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets be real the Championship goes through Massapequa

Massapequa has the talent and the coaching. Radomski has been the head guy since 2010 and has won a lot more than he has lost. Any team that has Powers on the sideline as an assistant has a great coaching staff. He runs a tight ship and gets every ounce of talent out of his players. This years team is talented and the coaches at Massapequa will have them prepared. They may not have the fire power they once had but they have strong players at all positions. From the net on up to attack they dont have any real weakness. If they have one it may be the attack so scores may be more like 9-8 than the high scoring they were used to in the past.

Farmingdales Hungerford has taken the reins in a very confident manner from longtime coach Hartranft (who compiled 708 wins over 48 years) before retirement. Coach Hungerford was an assistant under Hartranft and shows alot of commitment to this program and gets them playing together year round. They will have this team ready to go. This may be a down year though.They are not as deep as they have been in the past and the loss of their goalie to a torn acl is a big one. The underclassmen here will make or break this team senior group not as strong as in the past. Goalie position may be their Achilles heel if their goalie does not return from the injury.

Syossets Calabria may not be everyones favorite but you cant argue with his results. He has won year in and year out for a long time. This may be a tough year doesnt have the depth he once had especially at attack. The loss of key attackman has opened the door for some of the seniors to step up. Some changes of position also will help. They dont have a true stud at faceoff this is big for this team. Need major contributions from the midfield and from the big man on attack. Possession may be their biggest Achilles heel.

Port and its coaching carousel has been a big issue. Every since Coach Case left they have gone through coaches like a hot knife through butter. The current coach Neil throws more temper tantrums on the sideline than a nursery school at nap time. Has a talented group with no standout studs but a good group of players. Will see major contributions from its 10th grade group at midfield. They will live and die by their faceoff and the attacks ability or inability to put the ball on net. Could this be their year to make the finals? Coaching will be a major Achilles heel for this team.

Best post that actually talks about lacrosse in s long time.

How do u not mention the Port goalie? Boring

Please do telll!!! What's up.

how about talking real lacrosse than bashing kids

3 Syosset students athletes arrested last week for commiting a hate crime
1 a Lax starter who brings new meeting to being an outlaw
Great way to represent your school and families this holiday seasonst8hdm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 Syosset students athletes arrested last week for commiting a hate crime
1 a Lax starter who brings new meeting to being an outlaw
Great way to represent your school and families this holiday seasonst8hdm

Not my kid, not my town, not my concern, try it dude, it’s refreshing

Lot of 2019 Goalies committing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 Syosset students athletes arrested last week for commiting a hate crime
1 a Lax starter who brings new meeting to being an outlaw
Great way to represent your school and families this holiday seasonst8hdm

Merry Christmas! Not condoning it but hope your kid walks the straight and narrow for the rest of their life. You're no better by doing this. FYI he was charged with criminal trespass not a hate crime as you so wrongly stated. FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!

I guess painting MS13 and swastikas on a school in the middle of the night in summer time is a friendly tribute to the kids murdered this year by the gang . Guarantee you my kids are not walking that path.Trespassing is being somewhere you shouldn’t be
Painting gang and swastikas symbols is trying to demonstrate hate and fear
I guess school, coaches, and police aren’t laughing or consider this fake

MacArthur #9 ??? This is there best team in a while????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are B projections

1. GC
2. Set
3. Southside
4. Hewlett
5. Carey
6. Long Beach
7. Calhoun
8. Mepham
9. MacArthur

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess painting MS13 and swastikas on a school in the middle of the night in summer time is a friendly tribute to the kids murdered this year by the gang . Guarantee you my kids are not walking that path.Trespassing is being somewhere you shouldn’t be
Painting gang and swastikas symbols is trying to demonstrate hate and fear
I guess school, coaches, and police aren’t laughing or consider this fake

Relax social justice warrior. If it’s not your kid or community why do you care?

We all should care. It should be an honor to represent your school and student athletes should be held to a higher level. It a major problem in society today. Parents and schools not holding these kids accountable for their actions. If that was my kid he would never play lacrosse again.

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all should care. It should be an honor to represent your school and student athletes should be held to a higher level. It a major problem in society today. Parents and schools not holding these kids accountable for their actions. If that was my kid he would never play lacrosse again.

Yes, they should be held accountable by their parents and teachers and peers, not a bunch of anonymous vultures on BOTC. Put your name to your to it or pipe down.

Northport in the top 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Are you serious about MacArthur?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We all should care. It should be an honor to represent your school and student athletes should be held to a higher level. It a major problem in society today. Parents and schools not holding these kids accountable for their actions. If that was my kid he would never play lacrosse again.

Yes, they should be held accountable by their parents and teachers and peers, not a bunch of anonymous vultures on BOTC. Put your name to your to it or pipe down.

Absolutely everyone's business, we all live together as a society and if your kid is this stupid then public shaming should be the least of the punishments.

No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

right maybe Calhoun should be 9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MacArthur #9 ??? This is there best team in a while????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are B projections

1. GC
2. Set
3. Southside
4. Hewlett
5. Carey
6. Long Beach
7. Calhoun
8. Mepham
9. MacArthur

Does it really matter what town they live it in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

I agree, but you’re a complete _ to deflect it to another town. If you need to publicly shame a kid anonymously you are a complete coward, I am sure your son is one too as that is how you are raising him. I don’t live in Syosset so I don’t care. But I don’t need to publicly shame teenagers, you are pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MacArthur #9 ??? This is there best team in a while????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are B projections

1. GC
2. Set
3. Southside
4. Hewlett
5. Carey
6. Long Beach
7. Calhoun
8. Mepham
9. MacArthur

Where is Wantagh????

in "C"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MacArthur #9 ??? This is there best team in a while????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are B projections

1. GC
2. Set
3. Southside
4. Hewlett
5. Carey
6. Long Beach
7. Calhoun
8. Mepham
9. MacArthur

Where is Wantagh????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

I agree, but you’re a complete _ to deflect it to another town. If you need to publicly shame a kid anonymously you are a complete coward, I am sure your son is one too as that is how you are raising him. I don’t live in Syosset so I don’t care. But I don’t need to publicly shame teenagers, you are pathetic.

Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

I agree, but you’re a complete _ to deflect it to another town. If you need to publicly shame a kid anonymously you are a complete coward, I am sure your son is one too as that is how you are raising him. I don’t live in Syosset so I don’t care. But I don’t need to publicly shame teenagers, you are pathetic.

Remember they are kids kids not animals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one should be surprised about Syo kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

I agree, but you’re a complete -l to deflect it to another town. If you need to publicly shame a kid anonymously you are a complete coward, I am sure your son is one too as that is how you are raising him. I don’t live in Syosset so I don’t care. But I don’t need to publicly shame teenagers, you are pathetic.

You need to raise your standards. Boys this age in other times were men and actually fought evil. You're treating them like babies and they are acting like it. They should be publicly shamed for horrendous public behavior. They are way to old not to know better, they are not children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No one should be surprised about the kid, they are raised that way.

This would never happen in a town like Massapequa, Wantaugh or Seaford, where the kid's cop father would get this buried long before it was in Newsday.

Pathetic to pick on a 16 or 17 year old kid.

I agree, but you’re a complete _l to deflect it to another town. If you need to publicly shame a kid anonymously you are a complete coward, I am sure your son is one too as that is how you are raising him. I don’t live in Syosset so I don’t care. But I don’t need to publicly shame teenagers, you are pathetic.

You need to raise your standards. Boys this age in other times were men and actually fought evil. You're treating them like babies and they are acting like it. They should be publicly shamed for horrendous public behavior. They are way to old not to know better, they are not children

How low is your self esteem that anonymously shaming sixteen and seventeen year old boys gets you worked up? Why don’t you put YOUR name on here so this kids dad can confront you? Coward!

Get your facts right and leave the kids alone or post your name and tell us how you really feel

Wow a lot of hate on kids. Not right people..

People please lets not bash high school kids. We need to realize kids are kids and they all make mistakes in life. No one was hurt and only damage done was to a wall. Yes what they did was stupid but I dont know a single person who is infallible as an adult let alone as a teenage boy. I can assure you their parents are handling it home and the school has set its punishment. Can we get back to talking lacrosse a bit. We have the season right around the corner.

I also want to touch on where kids commit. Regardless if you like the school or not doesnt give you the right top bash a kid. Unless you are the player or parent of the player you do not know why certain decisions are made. The decision to play college lacrosse is not one that I believe many take lightly and where they go or how they get there is no ones but the families business. These kids work hard on and off the field to accomplish their dream of playing lacrosse at the next level. There is a school for everyone.

What about HHHE in '18?

Is this Connetquot's or Smithtown East's last hurra, I think they could be there in the end, why talk top 3, when 4 teams make it to semis no such thing as a game deciding third best. I think there are 5 top teams

Does Commack or Northport's have depth or future? Is being ranked 7th for West Islip a wake up or is 6th place the best they can pull out? Will Sachem become irrelevant and fall in with the next tier?

I'd like to see which of the following will break through further.
Bayshore
Huntington
Lindenhurst
Riverhead
Whitman

But I'd have to agree, Ward Melville is king, probably for next few years, the battle below them is going to be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about HHHE in '18?

Is this Connetquot's or Smithtown East's last hurra, I think they could be there in the end, why talk top 3, when 4 teams make it to semis no such thing as a game deciding third best. I think there are 5 top teams

Does Commack or Northport's have depth or future? Is being ranked 7th for West Islip a wake up or is 6th place the best they can pull out? Will Sachem become irrelevant and fall in with the next tier?

I'd like to see which of the following will break through further.
Bayshore
Huntington
Lindenhurst
Riverhead
Whitman

But I'd have to agree, Ward Melville is king, probably for next few years, the battle below them is going to be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

HHHE possible final four in 18' but unlikely.

Not sure if this is the end for Connetquot or Smithtown East but Connetquot should be tough.

Cormmack has a chance to get to the final four not sure about Northport. Both have a future but neither has the depth to knock off top teams consistently.

West Islip being ranked 7th is a result of sandbagging in order to impact schedule. It will not matter, they are not a top 4 team.

When was either Sachem relevant?

Riverhead has the best chance of the group you listed.

Ward Melville is favorite. 18's and 19's very good as were the 17's. Will they have the depth going forward? Don't think the 20's are deep maybe they fall off like WI has done.

Smithtown West is solid and future looks good.

WM vs Connetquot in finals.

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about HHHE in '18?

Is this Connetquot's or Smithtown East's last hurra, I think they could be there in the end, why talk top 3, when 4 teams make it to semis no such thing as a game deciding third best. I think there are 5 top teams

Does Commack or Northport's have depth or future? Is being ranked 7th for West Islip a wake up or is 6th place the best they can pull out? Will Sachem become irrelevant and fall in with the next tier?

I'd like to see which of the following will break through further.
Bayshore
Huntington
Lindenhurst
Riverhead
Whitman

But I'd have to agree, Ward Melville is king, probably for next few years, the battle below them is going to be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

HHHE possible final four in 18' but unlikely.

Not sure if this is the end for Connetquot or Smithtown East but Connetquot should be tough.

Cormmack has a chance to get to the final four not sure about Northport. Both have a future but neither has the depth to knock off top teams consistently.

West Islip being ranked 7th is a result of sandbagging in order to impact schedule. It will not matter, they are not a top 4 team.

When was either Sachem relevant?

Riverhead has the best chance of the group you listed.

Ward Melville is favorite. 18's and 19's very good as were the 17's. Will they have the depth going forward? Don't think the 20's are deep maybe they fall off like WI has done.

Smithtown West is solid and future looks good.

WM vs Connetquot in finals.

What does cormmack have that I am missing? ( And why the r). Second time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

I think that Massapequa has the best coaching staff on Long Island. A great mix of styles and experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

—exactly. Good Club kids play against only kids their age, the parents and the kid think they’re the next Paul Rabil, and then get upset when the coach “doesn’t know what he’s doing” or better known to realists as the kid stops working hard because he thinks he knows better and because the parents spent thousands of dollars they’re experts? Give me a break. How come not every kid playing varsity goes division 1?! The coach?? No. It’s 1) the players just aren’t that good and 2) kids these days would rather play Xbox, go to their SAT tutor (not a bad thing but it’s true) and just don’t have the same motivation as a class or 2 precious. Hard work beats talent? Well thousands spent doesn’t mean you’re talented, and most kids these days don’t know what“hard work” is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

—exactly. Good Club kids play against only kids their age, the parents and the kid think they’re the next Paul Rabil, and then get upset when the coach “doesn’t know what he’s doing” or better known to realists as the kid stops working hard because he thinks he knows better and because the parents spent thousands of dollars they’re experts? Give me a break. How come not every kid playing varsity goes division 1?! The coach?? No. It’s 1) the players just aren’t that good and 2) kids these days would rather play Xbox, go to their SAT tutor (not a bad thing but it’s true) and just don’t have the same motivation as a class or 2 precious. Hard work beats talent? Well thousands spent doesn’t mean you’re talented, and most kids these days don’t know what“hard work” is.

There are teams with all d1 starters and depth on the bench. Last year one of them under performed miserably.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

—exactly. Good Club kids play against only kids their age, the parents and the kid think they’re the next Paul Rabil, and then get upset when the coach “doesn’t know what he’s doing” or better known to realists as the kid stops working hard because he thinks he knows better and because the parents spent thousands of dollars they’re experts? Give me a break. How come not every kid playing varsity goes division 1?! The coach?? No. It’s 1) the players just aren’t that good and 2) kids these days would rather play Xbox, go to their SAT tutor (not a bad thing but it’s true) and just don’t have the same motivation as a class or 2 precious. Hard work beats talent? Well thousands spent doesn’t mean you’re talented, and most kids these days don’t know what“hard work” is.

Gibberish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Quot will underperform, it is the coaching.

No way WM v Quot! Our coach is horrible.

The high school coaching ranks are thin with a few exceptions (WM) Most of these coaches are little more than managers that inherit fully trained kids from clubs and clinics. Parents spend thousands to deliver a athlete with plenty of game experience and honed skills only to watch a high school coach NOT make them better as a team or player.

unfortunately, very true

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well?

I think that Massapequa has the best coaching staff on Long Island. A great mix of styles and experience.

Hard to argue. They definitely get he most out of their talent and make teams better.

Aren’t the majority of club coaches HS coaches as well? [/quote]

I think that Massapequa has the best coaching staff on Long Island. A great mix of styles and experience. [/quote]

Hard to argue. They definitely get he most out of their talent and make teams better. [/quote]

I'd rather go with Ward Melville and CSH

I think most schools on LI would take either 3.

Northport has minimal depth and this year will be a challenge in itself. Of the seniors, a few low level D3 commits and the starting goalie is a top D2 commit. Under classmen, some potential, 1-2 D1 commits. Coaching and cohesiveness is an issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about HHHE in '18?

Is this Connetquot's or Smithtown East's last hurra, I think they could be there in the end, why talk top 3, when 4 teams make it to semis no such thing as a game deciding third best. I think there are 5 top teams

Does Commack or Northport's have depth or future? Is being ranked 7th for West Islip a wake up or is 6th place the best they can pull out? Will Sachem become irrelevant and fall in with the next tier?

I'd like to see which of the following will break through further.
Bayshore
Huntington
Lindenhurst
Riverhead
Whitman

But I'd have to agree, Ward Melville is king, probably for next few years, the battle below them is going to be interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts on the top ten in Suffolk?

In Suffolk "A" the top teams will be:

Ward Melville
Smithton West
Connetquot

Not sure anyone else has a chance to win the county championship. Maybe Smithton East? Cormmack?

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

That brings us back to coaching.

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant gobshite stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

Say hallelujah and amen

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

The top 6 or so D II programs are very solid programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant nonsense stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

The top 6 or so D II programs are very solid programs.

No they are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

no need to bash others to make a point - it is a big accomplishment for any kid to go on and play college lacrosse at any level - D1,2,3 club ect. many factors into decisions and not just lacrosse (location, scholastic and cost being major factors)

As for the coaching argument I am a big believer in the best coach usually gets off the bus with the best players - was Bob Hartranft a mediocre coach for 46 years and a great coach for one year? has Dennis Bonn really become a better coach the last three years and if he goes 12-5 this year is he not as good a coach as he was last year? No, it depends on the players.

Obviously there are great coaches, good coaches and bad coaches but IMHO a bad coach can win with great players but a good coach can not win a championship without them. give me a strong youth program, a 75% fogo and a 65% save goalie over a "great" coach any day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

The top 6 or so D II programs are very solid programs.

No they are not.

smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

As opposed to your stupid opinion . . . ??

How many HS coaches try to stay current and innovative in their training, practices, game planning, and motivational skills?
How many have cookie cutter practices, drills, and plays year in year out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

As opposed to your stupid opinion . . . ??

ok cement head....second time.......give some facts to back up your stupid opinion.........we are all waiting to be enlightened

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

What is your opinion gospel. LOL. Guess we know whos kid is going D2. Come on, nothing against D2 there is a school for everyone yet to say D3 is not better lacrosse is being silly. Look at the traditionally strong D3 programs year in and year out. Lacrosse wise and academically you can not compare D2 to D3.

The first time you heard the word lacrosse you thought it was a tennis shirt and its logo was an alligator

Please just look at the schools your speaking of in D2
academics
1 Limestone 21-1 1 not in top 650
2 Merrimack 15-4 4 #404
3 Adelphi 15-4 3 #332
4 Le Moyne 14-3 2 #354
5 Tampa 15-5 7 #483
6 Pace 12-4 5 #387
7 Lenoir-Rhyne 12-3 6 not in top 650
8 Mercyhurst 12-3 8 not in top 650
9 NYIT 14-3 9 not in top 650
10 Wingate 13-4 14 not in top 650

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As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle[/quote]

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that. [/quote]

As opposed to your stupid opinion . . . ??[/quote]

ok cement head....second time.......give some facts to back up your stupid opinion.........we are all waiting to be enlightened
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I am not the OP - just pointing out the flaw in your argument about opposing "opinions".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

What is your opinion gospel. LOL. Guess we know whos kid is going D2. Come on, nothing against D2 there is a school for everyone yet to say D3 is not better lacrosse is being silly. Look at the traditionally strong D3 programs year in and year out. Lacrosse wise and academically you can not compare D2 to D3.

The first time you heard the word lacrosse you thought it was a tennis shirt and its logo was an alligator

Please just look at the schools your speaking of in D2
academics
1 Limestone 21-1 1 not in top 650
2 Merrimack 15-4 4 #404
3 Adelphi 15-4 3 #332
4 Le Moyne 14-3 2 #354
5 Tampa 15-5 7 #483
6 Pace 12-4 5 #387
7 Lenoir-Rhyne 12-3 6 not in top 650
8 Mercyhurst 12-3 8 not in top 650
9 NYIT 14-3 9 not in top 650
10 Wingate 13-4 14 not in top 650

Facts here!!!

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle[/quote]

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that. [/quote]

As opposed to your stupid opinion . . . ??[/quote]

ok cement head....second time.......give some facts to back up your stupid opinion.........we are all waiting to be enlightened
[/quote]

You must have fallen off the evolutionary train one stop before [ChillLaxin] habilis. You sound like such a goon. Please enlighten us with why you think D2 better than D3 in lacrosse and academics. Its bizarre you must come from a very confused family you sound like a MAGA but act like a Snowflake

The whole picture is that you have the best academic fit for your son. So this will give them the best opportunity to succeed in life. Sorry break the news to everyone there is life after lacrosse!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant [ChillLaxin] stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

Stop with your stupid opinion. This is the same non-factual argument every year. You have no facts to back up your opinion. Your obvious attempt to somehow equate D3 programs with D1 teams and disparage D2 is obvious. Enjoy your daughters D3 games and leave it at that.

What is your opinion gospel. LOL. Guess we know whos kid is going D2. Come on, nothing against D2 there is a school for everyone yet to say D3 is not better lacrosse is being silly. Look at the traditionally strong D3 programs year in and year out. Lacrosse wise and academically you can not compare D2 to D3.

The first time you heard the word lacrosse you thought it was a tennis shirt and its logo was an alligator

Please just look at the schools your speaking of in D2
academics
1 Limestone 21-1 1 not in top 650
2 Merrimack 15-4 4 #404
3 Adelphi 15-4 3 #332
4 Le Moyne 14-3 2 #354
5 Tampa 15-5 7 #483
6 Pace 12-4 5 #387
7 Lenoir-Rhyne 12-3 6 not in top 650
8 Mercyhurst 12-3 8 not in top 650
9 NYIT 14-3 9 not in top 650
10 Wingate 13-4 14 not in top 650

Where did you get the academic #'s? Just curious, I couldn't find them.

Ha.....ok ...I guess you need to try and change the original statement you were called out on...page 258 #25364 "

"As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle"

You were called out on this to provide facts which you were unable to do. Soooo....you try to change your argument to the old straw man argument that D3 schools are better acedemically that D2 schools. Little impotent men like yourself have brought these statements up for decades, D3 schools are just as good as D1 and D3 schools are better academically that D2. Most informed people dismiss these stupid statements made by donkeys like yourself. Approximately 12% of men/women HS players get to play college lax. There is no use in comparing divisions. The kids who get to play in college typically are able to balance lax/academics that fit their own criteria and the uninformed cementheads like yourself drive the comparison narrative and live through their kid....snowflake. Oh yea...by the way...heck yea for MAGA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

It's just "Per. . . ", not "As per . . . " . . . you're not citing or referencing a document, policy, or some other formal thing! smh

Does it really matter in the end? Such a small % of player's get the opportunity to play in college, whatever the level, is a major achievement in itself. And for those few players, and remember, the country is a big place and there are a lot of high schools and a lot of players, finding the right fit, athletically, academically and financially is really what it is all about. I'll give an example. My son had offers from all 3 divisions, did a good number of visits and ended up deciding, (his decision) on a D2 school. Between the athletic and academic money they offered, he will come out with minimal debt, be able to go onto to graduate school without holding a heavy bag.
In addition, he will get the chance to play, and they are a top 10 D2 school and possibly win as well as get his college experience and his education. Things to think about for the kids. One of his coaches went D3 and won a championship many years ago and he reminded him again and again that regardless of the level, he won an NCAA championship and that is something he will always have.
He also got is degree and lived the college life. Just something to think about...

D3 schools are typically better academically than.D2. as well are mamy of the lower tier D1. Just Google any D2 school vs the lower D1s and add in the d3s. There is a great site (start class) that compares the schools. Academically can't compare to most (not talking outliers).

I also do not think the top D3 will CONSISTENTLY beat the lower tier D1s. In a game. Maybe the bottom few. Although those rosters do have D1 Caliber players.

The only thing I hope we can all agree is there is a school for everyone and the "for" has got to be right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many HS coaches try to stay current and innovative in their training, practices, game planning, and motivational skills?
How many have cookie cutter practices, drills, and plays year in year out?

I've seen the same man up play for 5 years

But have you stopped it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many HS coaches try to stay current and innovative in their training, practices, game planning, and motivational skills?
How many have cookie cutter practices, drills, and plays year in year out?

I've seen the same man up play for 5 years

With deminishing returns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But have you stopped it

= I don't know how to use the "Quote" button . . . People, please - it's 2018. Can't we start the year off right and learn how to use an online forum?!

I agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree

Now that is funny.

well said and agreed. best fit athletically, academically and financially and an overall positive experience is most important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

It's just "Per. . . ", not "As per . . . " . . . you're not citing or referencing a document, policy, or some other formal thing! smh

Grammar police. Lol.

To the person who asked about the academic rankings, I got them from Forbes. To the individual who just name calls and tries to be a bully. My point and the information I posted was a list of the top 10 D2 schools and their rank academically. It was to reference how the D2 programs are not only weak in lacrosse but academically also. It just didn't show properly due to the width of post being limited.

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

... as opposed to schools that crank out majors in "Women's Studies"??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

I tried to provide an overview of lacrosse in college with actual data that has relevance to high school lacrosse players. I used what I thought to be the best resources I could find. Forbes tends to be one of the most used and quoted college ranking services.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Well done, and thank you, this is a great thing to share with my son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

... as opposed to schools that crank out majors in "Women's Studies"??!

geez....what a loser..are you able to carry on a conversation?? how about....biology, physicians Asst, physical therapy, Medicine, nursing, mathematics, physics, engineering, English, chemistry etc. Keep in mind college rankings are typically based on the Major/minor/degree that many schools specialize in and can be ranked differently for different areas of study within a college. There are a number of ranking associations.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Thank you for This information. Never have seem this much relevant information in one spot. I will definitely be sharing this with my son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

... as opposed to schools that crank out majors in "Women's Studies"??!

geez....what a loser..are you able to carry on a conversation?? how about....biology, physicians Asst, physical therapy, Medicine, nursing, mathematics, physics, engineering, English, chemistry etc. Keep in mind college rankings are typically based on the Major/minor/degree that many schools specialize in and can be ranked differently for different areas of study within a college. There are a number of ranking associations.

= someone who has no sense of humor and/or doesn't get sarcasm. Lighten up Francis!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Good research. Interesting that you used Forbes considering its skewed towards business careers:

"The Forbes list gives schools points for things that might appeal to future B-schoolers and Wall Street moguls. Ratings are based on the number of alumni who end up in Who’s Who in America, the amount of students and professors receiving awards"

... as opposed to schools that crank out majors in "Women's Studies"??!

geez....what a loser..are you able to carry on a conversation?? how about....biology, physicians Asst, physical therapy, Medicine, nursing, mathematics, physics, engineering, English, chemistry etc. Keep in mind college rankings are typically based on the Major/minor/degree that many schools specialize in and can be ranked differently for different areas of study within a college. There are a number of ranking associations.

I don't know , but the schools on the Forbes list seem to have all the majors you mention. Can't we just be happy with a well thought out and well written post. This has to be one of the best posts I have read in a long time. Sorry he didn't pick a site for the rankings you approve of

Originally Posted by America's Game

I have been seeing some banter back and forth regarding DI, DII, and DIII. There is a school for everyone. Its whatever fits the student and their family. The fact that Long Island has so many kids playing at the next level is amazing. We should be proud of all our players regardless of what ones opinion is of the school. To be a collegiate athlete is a great accomplishment. Not many players get to play at the next level.

The NCAA allows each Division I lacrosse program 12.6 scholarships.That scholarship money is split up among as many as 40 players and in some cases upwards of 50. In Division II, there are 10.8 scholarships and the same division of funds applies to DII as D1. Not all teams are fully funded so they do not have as many scholarships as fully funded teams. Division III does not offer scholarships. NJCAA offers 20 scholarships. All schools offer academic money and financial aid. The amount of money you receive is based on your grades and financial situation.There are approximately 609 sponsored men's college lacrosse programs across the NCAA in Divisions I, II, III, NJCAA, and collegiate club.

Number of US High School Lacrosse Players 2016-17 111,842
Number of College Lacrosse Players across all programs 15,257
% of US High School Lacrosse Players competing at any College Level 13.2%
% of US High School Lacrosse Players Competing at NCAA I Schools 2.7%

Here is a breakdown of the top 50 academic schools as per Forbes and the division their lacrosse team plays in. The level of play varies from school to school and division. The point I am making here is there is a place for everyone. There are 17 DI and 12 DIII teams on this list. Playing DII is also an accomplishment. They may not be on the list of top academic schools but they have some strong programs.

#1 Harvard University D1
#3 Yale University D1
#4 Princeton University D1
#5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology D3
#7 University of Pennsylvania D1
#8 Duke University D1
#9 Brown University D1
#12 Dartmouth College D1
#13 Williams College D3
#15 Cornell University D1
#17 Amherst College D3
#19 Swarthmore College D3
#20 United States Naval Academy D1
#21 Georgetown University D1
#23 Bowdoin College D3
#24 United States Military Academy D1
#25 Haverford College D3
#26 University of Notre Dame D1
#30 Johns Hopkins University D1
#31 Washington and Lee University D3
#32 Tufts University D3
#33 Wesleyan University D3
#35 Bates College D3
#38 University of Michigan D1
#39 Middlebury College D3
#40 University of Virginia D1
#41 United States Air Force Academy D1
#42 Colgate University D1
#50 Vassar College D3

Thank you!!! Great post.

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

I was thinking the same thing. Wonder if they held it in a lacrosse hotbed like Maryland or New York would it be better. Of course it would need to occurs in spring or maybe early fall.

Nike/US Lacrosse Division I Men’s
Preseason Top 20

1. Duke
2. Maryland
3. Denver
4. Albany
5. Yale
6. Notre Dame
7. Rutgers
8. Ohio State
9. Penn State
10. North Carolina
11. Syracuse
12. Loyola
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Hofstra
15. Army
16. Virginia
17. Penn
18. Princeton
19. Towson
20. Villanova

Also considered (alphabetical order): Air Force, Boston University, Brown, Fairfield, Hobart, Marquette, Lehigh, Navy, Providence, Richmond

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nike/US Lacrosse Division I Men’s
Preseason Top 20

1. Duke
2. Maryland
3. Denver
4. Albany
5. Yale
6. Notre Dame
7. Rutgers
8. Ohio State
9. Penn State
10. North Carolina
11. Syracuse
12. Loyola
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Hofstra
15. Army
16. Virginia
17. Penn
18. Princeton
19. Towson
20. Villanova

Also considered (alphabetical order): Air Force, Boston University, Brown, Fairfield, Hobart, Marquette, Lehigh, Navy, Providence, Richmond

Meaningless... But I will bite.

Too high: Yale, Duke, Penn State

Too low: Towson, Syracuse, North Carolina.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How much you only reference D1 and D3 commits and not D2? What is the constant stigma with D2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

D1 commits are not a factor in how well a team will do.

Ehh I have to say talent plays a major roll in how a team does. If you have a good number of D1 and top D3 commits on a team it means there is talent. I dont care how good coaching is if you dont have talent you dont win games. I know there have been a few teams with a tremendous amount of talent but have been unsuccessful. Thats a poor mix of selfish players, parents who dont have a clue and push an all me type of game, and a coach who cant coach.

As per the reference to D1 and D3. D1 and D3 are historically the better programs. D2 does not have many strong teams and also not a long history in the game. The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle

It's just "Per. . . ", not "As per . . . " . . . you're not citing or referencing a document, policy, or some other formal thing! smh

Grammar police. Lol.

I love these D3 Daddy's who's sons didn't a sniff from a D1 school. This guy above says: "The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle" So if we go by your statement, Syracuse that's ranked around 9 can be "kept up with" by St Lawrence, that is ranked top 5 in D3. Really? You have no idea what you're talking about, and have no idea of the level of athleticism those D1 kids have. St. Lawrence would have ZERO chance against Dartmouth, let alone Syracuse. It's ok to play D3, stop with the silly comparisons.

love these D3 Daddy's who's sons didn't a sniff from a D1 school. This guy above says: "The upper tier D3 teams can beat many of the lower tier D1 teams and give some of the upper tier teams a battle" So if we go by your statement, Syracuse that's ranked around 9 can be "kept up with" by St Lawrence, that is ranked top 5 in D3. Really? You have no idea what you're talking about, and have no idea of the level of athleticism those D1 kids have. St. Lawrence would have ZERO chance against Dartmouth, let alone Syracuse. It's ok to play D3, stop with the silly comparisons.[/quote]

So as a parent who seems to know so much about lacrosse and the D1 schools. You brought them up but Dartmouth is falling apart. Kids quitting on the coach left and right. Coach lost almost his whole senior class. You do know there are over 70 D1 team. It was said that the top D3 can keep up with the bottom D1 and beat them more often than not. Salisbury, Tufts, RIT, York, St, Lawrence, Wesleyan, and Denison can 100% beat schools at the bottom of the D1 pool. Teams like Bellamarine, Lafayette, Siena, Dartmouth, Detroit Mercer, Mercer, Wagner, Manhattan, Quinnipiac, VMI, and NJIT. There is D1 talent in D3. Just because a player chose to play D3 doesn't mean they had no interest or could not play D1. Parents just fall in love with D1 because of all the kool aid they have drank from the club coaches. D3 has great lacrosse also. Get your head out of Chanencuks rear. Did your little laxer do his repeat or pg year to get into NJIT or Siena. Lol. Keep drinking the kool aid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

Nope!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

Nope!

Lacrosse will remain a fringe spectator sport for a very long time, except maybe final 4 or national championship college games. For the most part, the only people who watch regular season college games in person at the venue are friends and family.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

Nope!

Lacrosse will remain a fringe spectator sport for a very long time, except maybe final 4 or national championship college games. For the most part, the only people who watch regular season college games in person at the venue are friends and family.

Every college sport except "big time" basketball and football have small crowds. So what!!! What is your point. How many spectators are at Div 1 baseball, hockey, cross country, volleyball, softball, track, rugby etc. The kids play because they enjoy being student-athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

Nope!

Lacrosse will remain a fringe spectator sport for a very long time, except maybe final 4 or national championship college games. For the most part, the only people who watch regular season college games in person at the venue are friends and family.

Every college sport except "big time" basketball and football have small crowds. So what!!! What is your point. How many spectators are at Div 1 baseball, hockey, cross country, volleyball, softball, track, rugby etc. The kids play because they enjoy being student-athletes.

Having attended a school with a then top DIII hockey team, every home game I attended (which was every one) had a full or near full arena - granted these arenas are in the 2 - 3K range for capacity, but that is way beyond friends and family, and for many DIII schools, those numbers exceed the student body population. Most of the away games I attended were similar situations - for reference this was the ECAC. I have to think DI hockey equals or exceeds the interest exhibited by DIII (my schools team is now DI, and they still fill their arena regularly). I can't argue about the rest of the sports mentioned . . .

Every college sport except "big time" basketball and football have small crowds. So what!!! What is your point. How many spectators are at Div 1 baseball, hockey, cross country, volleyball, softball, track, rugby etc. The kids play because they enjoy being student-athletes.
[/quote]

Having attended a school with a then top DIII hockey team, every home game I attended (which was every one) had a full or near full arena - granted these arenas are in the 2 - 3K range for capacity, but that is way beyond friends and family, and for many DIII schools, those numbers exceed the student body population. Most of the away games I attended were similar situations - for reference this was the ECAC. I have to think DI hockey equals or exceeds the interest exhibited by DIII (my schools team is now DI, and they still fill their arena regularly). I can't argue about the rest of the sports mentioned . . .[/quote]

Lehigh Wrestling Attendance: 9,896 versus Penn State last month. It was awesome!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone see the USA game other day ? There was more people at a HS girls basketball game than that lacrosse game. What a embarrassment to the game with every big player and coach there. How are the crowds at College Games ??

Friends and family . . .

I was fortunate one year to be in Raleigh the day when Duke played NC on a Saturday, late morning/mid-day, and beyond friends and family, there were no other fans there . . .

I take it Duke was on spring break then?

The only people at the game that day were strippers....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every college sport except "big time" basketball and football have small crowds. So what!!! What is your point. How many spectators are at Div 1 baseball, hockey, cross country, volleyball, softball, track, rugby etc. The kids play because they enjoy being student-athletes.

Having attended a school with a then top DIII hockey team, every home game I attended (which was every one) had a full or near full arena - granted these arenas are in the 2 - 3K range for capacity, but that is way beyond friends and family, and for many DIII schools, those numbers exceed the student body population. Most of the away games I attended were similar situations - for reference this was the ECAC. I have to think DI hockey equals or exceeds the interest exhibited by DIII (my schools team is now DI, and they still fill their arena regularly). I can't argue about the rest of the sports mentioned . . .[/quote]

Lehigh Wrestling Attendance: 9,896 versus Penn State last month. It was awesome! [/quote]

Since BOTC likes facts..........what school and when. Provide facts not your opinion about some D3 hockey. As far as wrestling.....that's a great in state matchup. 10K at that match is great.

who cares how many people watch the game. All you need to know is that parents and lax chicks attend the games.

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every college sport except "big time" basketball and football have small crowds. So what!!! What is your point. How many spectators are at Div 1 baseball, hockey, cross country, volleyball, softball, track, rugby etc. The kids play because they enjoy being student-athletes.

Having attended a school with a then top DIII hockey team, every home game I attended (which was every one) had a full or near full arena - granted these arenas are in the 2 - 3K range for capacity, but that is way beyond friends and family, and for many DIII schools, those numbers exceed the student body population. Most of the away games I attended were similar situations - for reference this was the ECAC. I have to think DI hockey equals or exceeds the interest exhibited by DIII (my schools team is now DI, and they still fill their arena regularly). I can't argue about the rest of the sports mentioned . . .

Lehigh Wrestling Attendance: 9,896 versus Penn State last month. It was awesome! [/quote]

Since BOTC likes facts..........what school and when. Provide facts not your opinion about some D3 hockey. As far as wrestling.....that's a great in state matchup. 10K at that match is great.
[/quote]

The poster stated that DI hockey didn't draw fans and I provided anecdotal evidence that DIII ECAC hockey drew consistent fans in the thousands back in the 80s and 90s. That same school is now DI in the ECAC and still draws - you've got enough info to figure it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

I think the issue is that most people dont understand or care for the game unless someone you know is playing. How is Hofstra and Stony Brook average attendance? i would be suprised if they hit 1500 at most of their games.

Union College?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

I think the issue is that most people dont understand or care for the game unless someone you know is playing. How is Hofstra and Stony Brook average attendance? i would be suprised if they hit 1500 at most of their games.

Thanks for your opinion. Why don't you provide the thread with facts. Your opinion just indicates that you are lazy and probably uninformed on the subject.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Union College?

That was so hard, wasn't it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

I think the issue is that most people dont understand or care for the game unless someone you know is playing. How is Hofstra and Stony Brook average attendance? i would be suprised if they hit 1500 at most of their games.

Thanks for your opinion. Why don't you provide the thread with facts. Your opinion just indicates that you are lazy and probably uninformed on the subject.

the poster is correct Hofstra vs Stony last year @ Hof ATTENDANCE: 1411
St. Johns vs HOfstra ATTENDANCE: 1868
those are 2 local teams
Providence @ Hof Atten 803
hof @ NC ATTENDANCE: 2036

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

I think the issue is that most people dont understand or care for the game unless someone you know is playing. How is Hofstra and Stony Brook average attendance? i would be suprised if they hit 1500 at most of their games.

Thanks for your opinion. Why don't you provide the thread with facts. Your opinion just indicates that you are lazy and probably uninformed on the subject.

the poster is correct Hofstra vs Stony last year @ Hof ATTENDANCE: 1411
St. Johns vs HOfstra ATTENDANCE: 1868
those are 2 local teams
Providence @ Hof Atten 803
hof @ NC ATTENDANCE: 2036

Has to do with the weather. Season starts early in the north east.

yeah its the weather, that's it. check those april / may games. Done with this argument, can we move on to HS lacrosse.

How many fans attend these yearlygames
SA vs Chammy
Dalers vs 'pequa
Ward Melville vs Smithtown
Garden City vs Manhasset

I know the old Chammy vs West Islip games had a good showing for years.

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2017 average game attendance-Mens Lacrosse
#1-Maryland-5,248
#2-Syracuse-4,386
#3-Michigan-3,672

Seems like a few more than friends and family

I think the issue is a lot of lacrosse programs play their games in the big football stadiums and as a result fans are spread out. Also cameras are mostly on one side so you only see the opposite side of the seats where there may be few fans. Yet I am sorry to say lacrosse does not draw huge numbers. It will continue to grow but never draw like basketball and football.

I think the issue is that most people dont understand or care for the game unless someone you know is playing. How is Hofstra and Stony Brook average attendance? i would be suprised if they hit 1500 at most of their games.

Thanks for your opinion. Why don't you provide the thread with facts. Your opinion just indicates that you are lazy and probably uninformed on the subject.

the poster is correct Hofstra vs Stony last year @ Hof ATTENDANCE: 1411
St. Johns vs HOfstra ATTENDANCE: 1868
those are 2 local teams
Providence @ Hof Atten 803
hof @ NC ATTENDANCE: 2036

IMHO the "walk up" attendance (not family and friends) has as much to do with weather as match up - if it is nice out you might look up to see who is playing today, if it is cold and raining you might look to see what game is on TV or streaming

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah its the weather, that's it. check those april / may games. Done with this argument, can we move on to HS lacrosse.

April weather stinks too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

You're an Ass. But I'll bite, you didn't account for the college coaches that attend those JV games (like it or not).

Conveniently, you left off those West Islip Chaminade game.

Realistically what LI (Nassau or Suffolk) campus is the best venue for a game accommodating a large crowd. Been to Bethpage for those college games, always seems like a nice venue. Garden City and ESM have nice fields. Will Farmingdale get their sports campus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

You're an Ass. But I'll bite, you didn't account for the college coaches that attend those JV games (like it or not).

Conveniently, you left off those West Islip Chaminade game.

Realistically what LI (Nassau or Suffolk) campus is the best venue for a game accommodating a large crowd. Been to Bethpage for those college games, always seems like a nice venue. Garden City and ESM have nice fields. Will Farmingdale get their sports campus.

I will give you my vote for the two worst - #2 John Burns Park (Massapequa) and #1 worst Syosset Woodbury Park (Syosset)

Massapequa redid their home field. Burns is done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

You're an Ass. But I'll bite, you didn't account for the college coaches that attend those JV games (like it or not).

Conveniently, you left off those West Islip Chaminade game.

Realistically what LI (Nassau or Suffolk) campus is the best venue for a game accommodating a large crowd. Been to Bethpage for those college games, always seems like a nice venue. Garden City and ESM have nice fields. Will Farmingdale get their sports campus.

I will give you my vote for the two worst - #2 John Burns Park (Massapequa) and #1 worst Syosset Woodbury Park (Syosset)

Syosset Woodbury park and high school is real bad, valley stream central takes the cake just all dirt

LOL...Syosset and Valley Stream Central in the same sentence...Fitting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

You're an Ass. But I'll bite, you didn't account for the college coaches that attend those JV games (like it or not).

Conveniently, you left off those West Islip Chaminade game.

Realistically what LI (Nassau or Suffolk) campus is the best venue for a game accommodating a large crowd. Been to Bethpage for those college games, always seems like a nice venue. Garden City and ESM have nice fields. Will Farmingdale get their sports campus.

I will give you my vote for the two worst - #2 John Burns Park (Massapequa) and #1 worst Syosset Woodbury Park (Syosset)

Have you been to Port Washingtons high school field. Worst turf on Long island it's like concrete and their bleachers are at the 20 yard line. They also are unsteady and dangerous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SA vs Chammy 421
Dalers vs 'pequa 266
Ward Melville vs Smithtown 319
Garden City vs Manhasset 444 but four people left at half

Hahahaha

The SA Chammy JV game has more than 421.

50 kids that won’t ever make varsity for both teams multiplied by 3 (dad, Mom, nanny/housekeeper)=300. Add in the kids from JV2 and their coaches and you’ve got 421

You're an Ass. But I'll bite, you didn't account for the college coaches that attend those JV games (like it or not).

Conveniently, you left off those West Islip Chaminade game.

Realistically what LI (Nassau or Suffolk) campus is the best venue for a game accommodating a large crowd. Been to Bethpage for those college games, always seems like a nice venue. Garden City and ESM have nice fields. Will Farmingdale get their sports campus.

I will give you my vote for the two worst - #2 John Burns Park (Massapequa) and #1 worst Syosset Woodbury Park (Syosset)

Have you been to Port Washingtons high school field. Worst turf on Long island it's like concrete and their bleachers are at the 20 yard line. They also are unsteady and dangerous.

Port Wash field is very bad, good field to keep the knee and ankle doctors in business. Last time i was there a lot of other fields are being fixed up, if they fix up the big turf it would be a cool place to play. Thank god they dont have a football team to play on that field any more.

Is there a website that has preseason rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a website that has preseason rankings?

yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a website that has preseason rankings?

yes

Hahahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a website that has preseason rankings?

yes

Hahahahaha

Nassau county had it on their twitter some time ago. Not so sure about Suffolk

for Sect XI. if you have a snow day within the 1st week you will not be able to have the first games. Does anyone coordinate the start of official practice and the scheduling?

NYS state, states, practice starts 3/5, 10 practices are needed for the team and 8 for an individual before the first game. 1 snow day and a student taking SAT cuts this .

Brentwood hosting lacrosse classic April 7th

Bob Hoppey Classic

Brentwood vs Deer Park
Smithtown East vs Massapequa
Riverhead vs Northport
Mattituck vs East Meadow

http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/news.asp

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there a website that has preseason rankings?

Go to this site. NCLCA which is the Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association it has the pre season rankings for Nassau

https://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=nclca

I didn't think school could have had 5 scrimmages but wow some teams are loading up. How many of these will truly happen. Are programs hedging their bets some will get cancelled.

There is no limit on scrimmages. Just NL and League Games

where do you see a schedule of scrimmages???

Nassau County is here -- https://www.leaguelineup.com/schedu...8&divisionid=758082&teamid=99999

After losing 2 games in the last three years CSH could start the season 0-3

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After losing 2 games in the last three years CSH could start the season 0-3

Yup. The glory days are officially a part of history. Back to the doldrums for CSH, for the foreseeable future. Like the next decade +.

With number one goalie out its going to be tough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After losing 2 games in the last three years CSH could start the season 0-3

they won't lose their first game, meanwhile that game could turn suffolk upside down.

"Yup. The glory days are officially a part of history. Back to the doldrums for CSH, for the foreseeable future. Like the next decade +."

Keep wishing hater...

Save this quote and check back with me over the next few years. Likely a small step back this year, but probably the best public school talent on LI in the underclass. They will be relevant this year and dominant in years to come...And by the way, when was CSH in the "doldrums"? Have been a top program for decades...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With number one goalie out its going to be tough

What town lost their number one goalie to injury other than Farmingdale?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Yup. The glory days are officially a part of history. Back to the doldrums for CSH, for the foreseeable future. Like the next decade +."

Keep wishing hater...

Save this quote and check back with me over the next few years. Likely a small step back this year, but probably the best public school talent on LI in the underclass. They will be relevant this year and dominant in years to come...And by the way, when was CSH in the "doldrums"? Have been a top program for decades...

what travel teams are the CSH kids on?

'Quot Coach will doom us.

"what travel teams are the CSH kids on?"

'20

5 on Terps
6 on Igloo
2 on FL$

SWR with studs but not as deep...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"what travel teams are the CSH kids on?"

'20

5 on Terps
6 on Igloo
2 on FL$

SWR with studs but not as deep...

CSH is relying upon it's current sophomore's this and next seasons . . .??!!

CSH... and 1 on 91 Crush...

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

CSH has 3 very good seniors, 3 decent seniors and one good jr. after that, they are very young and will take their lumps out of league but will still likely win league and county but the buck stops there...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"what travel teams are the CSH kids on?"

'20

5 on Terps
6 on Igloo
2 on FL$

SWR with studs but not as deep...

CSH is relying upon it's current sophomore's this and next seasons . . .??!!

also, not a lot of kids on travel teams over there at CSH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH... and 1 on 91 Crush...

That makes 12 from 1 grade playing high level club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"what travel teams are the CSH kids on?"

'20

5 on Terps
6 on Igloo
2 on FL$

SWR with studs but not as deep...

CSH is relying upon it's current sophomore's this and next seasons . . .??!!

also, not a lot of kids on travel teams over there at CSH

didn’t the 2 best igloo kids from 21 team leave csh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. hey dont have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

As for CSH and the two kids from '21 yes. gone. '22 is a strong class for them, then there will be a drop off for the forseeable future after 22...

"what travel teams are the CSH kids on?"

'20

5 on Terps
6 on Igloo
2 on FL$
1 on 91 Crush...

That makes 12 from 1 grade playing high level club.

...Um 14.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As for CSH and the two kids from '21 yes. gone. '22 is a strong class for them, then there will be a drop off for the forseeable future after 22...

This is a joke right.........a HS thread and you are projecting the future class of 2022 and beyond.....Good grief....Please stop

Yeah. you are right. Good point. Sorry got carried away...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

They have a face off guy. Kid who was at St. Anthony's who is committed to Marquette transferred back to Northport. Lost a pole but the rest are real solid and they returned there starting goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. hey dont have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. They don't have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

Syosset has no FoGo and no Goalie. Attack is overrated overall, however some talent at Midfield. Also, bad attitude on the team epecially among the seniors. They will likely loose 3 out of 4 none league games, but will do OK in their league which is weak other than Massapequa. They will be out is the semis or finals in Nassau A.

How is Suffolk B looking? Often regarded as one of the tougher leagues. Many very competitive teams. Who's tops, who's a sleeper?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Suffolk B looking? Often regarded as one of the tougher leagues. Many very competitive teams. Who's tops, who's a sleeper?

ESM vs HHW last game of the year for these two could mean a lot to both clubs
Harborfields poised to be a top contender
West Babylon value pick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. They don't have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

Syosset has no FoGo and no Goalie. Attack is overrated overall, however some talent at Midfield. Also, bad attitude on the team epecially among the seniors. They will likely loose 3 out of 4 none league games, but will do OK in their league which is weak other than Massapequa. They will be out is the semis or finals in Nassau A.

How can you say that Syosset has the igloo kids!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. They don't have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

Syosset has no FoGo and no Goalie. Attack is overrated overall, however some talent at Midfield. Also, bad attitude on the team epecially among the seniors. They will likely loose 3 out of 4 none league games, but will do OK in their league which is weak other than Massapequa. They will be out is the semis or finals in Nassau A.

No goalie? Syosset has a junior goalie committed to Stony Brook. That a decent D1 program. Wasn't he the starter last year

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

You know what he meant your jack off!!! Get a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

You know what he meant your jack off!!! Get a life

Lighten up Francis, keep your holier than thou nonsense for the NYT op/ed section not BOTC. Jerk off!

Why don't you tools start another thread for your ridiculously immature banter? It's pathetic & embarrassing. You wouldn't have the nads to speak like this to one another so why be a typing tough guy? Truly sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo still has igloo kids!!!

Jerry’s kids would be better.... Less attitude...

What is wrong with jerry kids? Why must you make fun of kids with disabilities? [ChillLaxin]hole

How do you know he didn’t mean Jerry Seinfields kids? A/H!!

You know what he meant your jack off!!! Get a life

Lighten up Francis, keep your holier than thou nonsense for the NYT op/ed section not BOTC. Jerk off!

Is that English ?

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Lighten up Francis, keep your holier than thou nonsense for the NYT op/ed section not BOTC. Jerk off![/quote]

Is that English ?
[/quote]

If you think that's bad, you haven't been here very long. That's at least decipherable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lighten up Francis, keep your holier than thou nonsense for the NYT op/ed section not BOTC. Jerk off!

Is that English ?
[/quote]

Lighten up Francis (quote from Stripes, meaning don't take things so literally)

keep your holier than thou nonsense for the NYT op/ed section ( implying that the previous poster is self righteous and if he wants to make 'snowflake" post he should do it in the New York Times opinion editorials )

not BOTC (Back of the cage being a reputable source for news and opinions as opposed to the 'Fake" New York Times)

Jerk off! (suggesting that the post should self gratify rather then posting on this web site)

I hope this clears things up for you

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way

If the coaching was better then the team could get further and achieve their potential. Coaching isn't good enough.

It clarifies that you are indeed a hammerhead. Please go away before you embarrass yourself any further. Your attempt at wit failed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It clarifies that you are indeed a hammerhead. Please go away before you embarrass yourself any further. Your attempt at wit failed.

While you may be right, we'll never know . . . because your attempt to post in a thread failed because you don't know how to use the "Quote" button.

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

This is not meant to start the private vs. public debate but I am more impressed with any public school team showing the year in year out level of competitiveness that GC/CSH/WM and WI show then a private always being good. IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

5 years would be a more relevant barometer as to which programs are currently the strongest. Any program that has not made the list at least a couple of times in the past 5 years can not be considered a top program.

Off the top of my head I would guess

Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Chaminade and St. Anthony's Maybe Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa?

Garden City and Ward Melville don't run hot and cold. They are consistently and historically very strong programs. Ratings are meaningless without direct competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It clarifies that you are indeed a hammerhead. Please go away before you embarrass yourself any further. Your attempt at wit failed.

While you may be right, we'll never know . . . because your attempt to post in a thread failed because you don't know how to use the "Quote" button.

Thanks for the enlightenment, Francis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

5 years would be a more relevant barometer as to which programs are currently the strongest. Any program that has not made the list at least a couple of times in the past 5 years can not be considered a top program.

Off the top of my head I would guess

Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Chaminade and St. Anthony's Maybe Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa?

Put Chaminade and St A , with Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa. Smithtown teams they might win once every 10 years,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

5 years would be a more relevant barometer as to which programs are currently the strongest. Any program that has not made the list at least a couple of times in the past 5 years can not be considered a top program.

Off the top of my head I would guess

Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Chaminade and St. Anthony's Maybe Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa?

Put Chaminade and St A , with Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa. Smithtown teams they might win once every 10 years,

Oh baby......that green eyed jealousy thing rears it head again. Stats don't lie. St A and Chammy are consistently in the top National polls. Be a big boy and deal with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

But how does F$G come into this? Why would they merge they run their own tournaments, clinics, camps, showcases ect....

over the last 5 years

CSH - 83-11 - 5 straight county championships (3-2) 3 state championships
WM - 89-15 - 5 straight county championships (3-2) 2 state championships
Mass 82-13 - 5 straight county championships (3-2) 1 state championships

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

5 years would be a more relevant barometer as to which programs are currently the strongest. Any program that has not made the list at least a couple of times in the past 5 years can not be considered a top program.

Off the top of my head I would guess

Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Chaminade and St. Anthony's Maybe Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa?

Put Chaminade and St A , with Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa. Smithtown teams they might win once every 10 years,

No.......Cold Spring Harbor, Manhasset, SWR, Syosset, Massapequa do not fit in this discussion.

Manhassett only ranked 3X in the top 25 over the past decade
CSH 3 X
Syosett 2X
SWR 1 X
Massapequa 2X

Also, GC has not been in top 25 since 2013
WI not since 2012
Manhassett not since 2011

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some stats for LI Lax fans to digest.

Over the past 10 years only 5 teams from Long Island have ended the year in the top 25 poll 5 times or more.

In a national level 18 programs have done this. Darien and Deerfield have done it the most consistently at 9X.

Some great programs like Jamesville Dewitt Summit and St. Ignatious, etc. are left out as they have only finished in the top 10 poll 4 times in the past decade. Manhassett does not fit.

So, here are the Long Island teams :

Chaminade 8X
St. Anthony 7X
Ward Melville 6X
West Islip 5X
Garden City 5X

Haverford, McDonagh,Boys Latin, Delbarton, Georgetown, Calvert Hall, Landon, Conestoga, Gillman,Culver, and LaSalle all are in this class 5X or more. So we have some storied programs in this company.

So, my questions....

Is the better program the one that's in the top 10 the most times but never finished #1?
(Chaminade)

or,

Is the better program the one that finished #1, but runs hot and cold and is in the top 10 less consistently?
(Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip)

I think several years ago West Islip would have fit into both categories and been a clear winner, but they have not ranked in the top 25 in the past 5 years. Is their best behind them for Scott Craig and his team?

5 years would be a more relevant barometer as to which programs are currently the strongest. Any program that has not made the list at least a couple of times in the past 5 years can not be considered a top program.

Off the top of my head I would guess

Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Chaminade and St. Anthony's Maybe Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa?

Put Chaminade and St A , with Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Ward Melvile, Manhasset, SWR? Syosset, Massapequa. Smithtown teams they might win once every 10 years,

Oh baby......that green eyed jealousy thing rears it head again. Stats don't lie. St A and Chammy are consistently in the top National polls. Be a big boy and deal with it.

Your lucky if you make tri state top 20

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

But how does F$G come into this? Why would they merge they run their own tournaments, clinics, camps, showcases ect....

This sounds like a mess - when you look at the likely results of such a consolidation, you might have 6+ teams in one organization at certain ages. People already complain about how second or third teams get treated with these no-separate clubs - this only exacerbates that bad situation. It might result in some absolutely dominant top teams, but such teams would then have zero competition on LI - they'll have no choice but to travel to every tournament they play in! This might make sense from a club ownership perspective in the short term, but it sounds like a long-term mess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

But how does F$G come into this? Why would they merge they run their own tournaments, clinics, camps, showcases ect....

This sounds like a mess - when you look at the likely results of such a consolidation, you might have 6+ teams in one organization at certain ages. People already complain about how second or third teams get treated with these no-separate clubs - this only exacerbates that bad situation. It might result in some absolutely dominant top teams, but such teams would then have zero competition on LI - they'll have no choice but to travel to every tournament they play in! This might make sense from a club ownership perspective in the short term, but it sounds like a long-term mess.

Just a rumor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

But how does F$G come into this? Why would they merge they run their own tournaments, clinics, camps, showcases ect....

This sounds like a mess - when you look at the likely results of such a consolidation, you might have 6+ teams in one organization at certain ages. People already complain about how second or third teams get treated with these no-separate clubs - this only exacerbates that bad situation. It might result in some absolutely dominant top teams, but such teams would then have zero competition on LI - they'll have no choice but to travel to every tournament they play in! This might make sense from a club ownership perspective in the short term, but it sounds like a long-term mess.

It will get even crazier now that they just purchased Yellow Jackets!

anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI

Not to quibble, but if they only had 100 kids per grade, they would be in class D . . . they actually have more than twice that number of students per grade (they have about ~950 students). That still doesn't diminish what they've accomplished recently, especially when they likely may have been the best team on LI in some years.

[quote=Anonymous]anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI
[/quote

and they are getting better. Their sophomore class is one of the best on Long Island and their 8th graders are following the same path.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI

Not to quibble, but if they only had 100 kids per grade, they would be in class D . . . they actually have more than twice that number of students per grade (they have about ~950 students). That still doesn't diminish what they've accomplished recently, especially when they likely may have been the best team on LI in some years.

actually the 950 number (actually 964) is grades 7-12 - the average grade size is about 140

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI
[/quote

and they are getting better. Their sophomore class is one of the best on Long Island and their 8th graders are following the same path.

Meh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI
[/quote

and they are getting better. Their sophomore class is one of the best on Long Island and their 8th graders are following the same path.

Well, the original post was talking about the past decade(not 5 years) in the National top 25.
In this discussion, school size does not matter and is not a factor.

Simply, the point is how often a team ranked in the national top 25 poll.

CSH only had good teams recently - but mostly due to the class that just graduated. Perhaps those days will continue, perhaps they won't. How have they done over the past 10 yrs.

By your logic, GC would not belong because they have not "represented" since 2013. We all know they are a perennial power.

Since you offered an opinion... over the next 5 years, I would not expect CSH to be as good as they have been recently.

Look for the resurrection of Sayville lax in fairly short order now that the coach has returned. Lots of optimism and high expectations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI

Not to quibble, but if they only had 100 kids per grade, they would be in class D . . . they actually have more than twice that number of students per grade (they have about ~950 students). That still doesn't diminish what they've accomplished recently, especially when they likely may have been the best team on LI in some years.

actually the 950 number (actually 964) is grades 7-12 - the average grade size is about 140

NYSED online data suggest average grade size is closer to 165+ . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way

If the coaching was better then the team could get further and achieve their potential. Coaching isn't good enough.

The teams around you are more talented than you are. It's not rocket science. Very good team, but not good enough for a Suffolk "A" title in any of the past 5 years. You had the current SW coach and 2 All-American players, a bunch of years ago, and still couldn't get it done. Suffolk A is, maybe, the toughest division around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way

If the coaching was better then the team could get further and achieve their potential. Coaching isn't good enough.

The teams around you are more talented than you are. It's not rocket science. Very good team, but not good enough for a Suffolk "A" title in any of the past 5 years. You had the current SW coach and 2 All-American players, a bunch of years ago, and still couldn't get it done. Suffolk A is, maybe, the toughest division around.

Suffolk & Nassau A are top heavy. Not much competition beyond the best third of the division in each. Many would argue that Suffolk B has some of the toughest competition in the country. Almost every game is a battle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth to the Legacy/fl$/91 merger? For the love of Legacy 91?

Many of these programs are using 91 as their back office. Jesters, Ducks, Empire, all do this. 91 ended up buying Empire. So this seems logical, especially since Legacy is a 91 coach that spun off on his own from what I understand.

But how does F$G come into this? Why would they merge they run their own tournaments, clinics, camps, showcases ect....

This sounds like a mess - when you look at the likely results of such a consolidation, you might have 6+ teams in one organization at certain ages. People already complain about how second or third teams get treated with these no-separate clubs - this only exacerbates that bad situation. It might result in some absolutely dominant top teams, but such teams would then have zero competition on LI - they'll have no choice but to travel to every tournament they play in! This might make sense from a club ownership perspective in the short term, but it sounds like a long-term mess.

I don't see this making sense for F$G or 91..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for the resurrection of Sayville lax in fairly short order now that the coach has returned. Lots of optimism and high expectations.

Looks like the Sayville public relations team is back from winter vacation. Guess we will hear about the low level football and lax teams soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport could be a surprise sleeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Ward Melville are the front runners but who are the teams with the best chance of upsetting them. Any surprise teams stepping up this year?

Syosset

Doubt it. They don't have a faceoff guy and they are shuffling players around because they are weak at a few spots. Oh and they also lost one of their starters on defense.

Syosset has no FoGo and no Goalie. Attack is overrated overall, however some talent at Midfield. Also, bad attitude on the team epecially among the seniors. They will likely loose 3 out of 4 none league games, but will do OK in their league which is weak other than Massapequa. They will be out is the semis or finals in Nassau A.

No goalie? Syosset has a junior goalie committed to Stony Brook. That a decent D1 program. Wasn't he the starter last year

Yes, he was the starter, but he vaporized during the playoffs. Didn't see him at the Syosset / Farmingdale game.

I wonder what happened?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville
Smithtown west
Connetquot
Hhhe
West Islip
Riverhead
Commack
Smithtown east
Sachem east
Sachem north
Bayshore

I think norfhport lost too much

'Quot Coach will doom us...he is just horrible. it's a shame.

Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way

If the coaching was better then the team could get further and achieve their potential. Coaching isn't good enough.

The teams around you are more talented than you are. It's not rocket science. Very good team, but not good enough for a Suffolk "A" title in any of the past 5 years. You had the current SW coach and 2 All-American players, a bunch of years ago, and still couldn't get it done. Suffolk A is, maybe, the toughest division around.

Suffolk & Nassau A are top heavy. Not much competition beyond the best third of the division in each. Many would argue that Suffolk B has some of the toughest competition in the country. Almost every game is a battle.

Who is A and who is B?

The past few years you had some movement.

In my mind and if you look at both Nassau and Suffolk, by the numbers, Each of the Nassau divisions could classify 30% of their teams as Good or better - in Nassua A just under 40%. In Suffolk each division could classify over 40% of teams in each division as good or better. And in Suffolk about 50% of the A teams could be classified as good or better (with more teams than nassau.

why do we have to play first round of states.

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Not sure why you say that, look at your past losses, did you ever beat those teams you lost to as you got older. You have a good team, sur ethe coach get more out of you but I think it was just a reflection of the team. The next few years will not be the coaches fault, just maybe be where the team is. Enjoy what the boys give you, will be a great season either way[/quote]

If the coaching was better then the team could get further and achieve their potential. Coaching isn't good enough.
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The teams around you are more talented than you are. It's not rocket science. Very good team, but not good enough for a Suffolk "A" title in any of the past 5 years. You had the current SW coach and 2 All-American players, a bunch of years ago, and still couldn't get it done. Suffolk A is, maybe, the toughest division around.[/quote]

Suffolk & Nassau A are top heavy. Not much competition beyond the best third of the division in each. Many would argue that Suffolk B has some of the toughest competition in the country. Almost every game is a battle.[/quote]

Who is A and who is B?

The past few years you had some movement.

In my mind and if you look at both Nassau and Suffolk, by the numbers, Each of the Nassau divisions could classify 30% of their teams as Good or better - in Nassua A just under 40%. In Suffolk each division could classify over 40% of teams in each division as good or better. And in Suffolk about 50% of the A teams could be classified as good or better (with more teams than nassau.

why do we have to play first round of states. [/quote]

I've made the same argument as your last question here on BOTC before ...

The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated.

You just roped 9 & 10 grade boys on a public forum! Hahahahaha what a complete loser. Let me guess, you never picked up a stick growing up in Queens, but now you’re an expert! A$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI
[/quote

and they are getting better. Their sophomore class is one of the best on Long Island and their 8th graders are following the same path.

Well, the original post was talking about the past decade(not 5 years) in the National top 25.
In this discussion, school size does not matter and is not a factor.

Simply, the point is how often a team ranked in the national top 25 poll.

CSH only had good teams recently - but mostly due to the class that just graduated. Perhaps those days will continue, perhaps they won't. How have they done over the past 10 yrs.

By your logic, GC would not belong because they have not "represented" since 2013. We all know they are a perennial power.

Since you offered an opinion... over the next 5 years, I would not expect CSH to be as good as they have been recently.

valid argument but on the other hand I discount the national polls as being slanted towards certain regions and certain teams, I think many of us on this board have a better feel for LI teams than people that vote in the polls based on reputation and box scores rather than having ever scene the teams play IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anybody that does not think that CSH belongs in the conversation for elite teams the past 5 years is insane and should not post on this site for 3 day 4 hours and 12 minutes. The school has about 100 kids per grade and yet they are a top team almost every year. Last years team was the best on LI

Not to quibble, but if they only had 100 kids per grade, they would be in class D . . . they actually have more than twice that number of students per grade (they have about ~950 students). That still doesn't diminish what they've accomplished recently, especially when they likely may have been the best team on LI in some years.

actually the 950 number (actually 964) is grades 7-12 - the average grade size is about 140

NYSED online data suggest average grade size is closer to 165+ . . .

quibble accepted - your still talking about 80 - 90 boys per grade and they have been a consistently good and occasionally great team with many of them going on to great college careers.

"The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated."

Um, the freshman were essentially the whole team, so they must've done something...

Ok, great. You call them over rated. Who is the underrated Sophomore group you think is better? Curious for this answer... Public high schools please, leave your for pay private all star teams out of the discussion for now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated."

Um, the freshman were essentially the whole team, so they must've done something...

Ok, great. You call them over rated. Who is the underrated Sophomore group you think is better? Curious for this answer... Public high schools please, leave your for pay private all star teams out of the discussion for now.

I don't know what is worse. The knucklehead that doesn't live in CSH knocking a bunch of kids that don't live in his Town or this knucklehead who lives in CSH knocking a bunch of kids who happen to be in the grade above is son. Thanks neighbor.

Sorry if it was taken as a knock, I thought the starting line up at csh last year was all Freshman. My bad, neighbor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated.

Losing to the chaminade freshmen team doesn't tell you much when so many good players get moved up to varsity.

How many Freshman and how many sophs were playing on varsity CSH last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The current CSH sophomores are not all that. Recall the CSH JV lost to Chaminade Freshman team last year. The then CSH freshman did very little in that game. #way-over-rated.

Losing to the chaminade freshmen team doesn't tell you much when so many good players get moved up to varsity.

LAX a month away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LAX a month away.

Practices have been hot and heavy for weeks now - just waiting for the official start now . . .!

How is Cormack at the HS level?

yeah, let's get the party started...how does everyone seeing it play out this year? And I don't care about class this and class that...can your team beat mine?! public and private...plenty of room for both here....lets here it and why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah, let's get the $hite started...how does everyone seeing it play out this year? And I don't care about class this and class that...can your team beat mine?! public and private...plenty of room for both here....lets here it and why?

Schedules are limited outside of conf/class, so it's not like anyone could play anyone if they wanted. Thus, lot's of speculation - which means lots of opinions . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah, let's get the party started...how does everyone seeing it play out this year? And I don't care about class this and class that...can your team beat mine?! public and private...plenty of room for both here....lets here it and why?

If my sons team beats your sons team it was ....A great game played by some wonderful players on both sides, very well coached game and the parents on both teams were supportable and great.

but and this is a big "Donald Trump" BUTT

If your over aged men that were recruited to play for your HS beat our boys from a town team you can be assured that.

The refs were being paid by express, your team was dirty, your coach was an embarrassment to HS sports and those red solo cup parents should be barred from any school event ever, and by the way, I could smell your neighbors BBQ at the field.

There you guys go, picking on Syosset again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There you guys go, picking on Syosset again!

Paranoia, the destroyer.

...Yawn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look for the resurrection of Sayville lax in fairly short order now that the coach has returned. Lots of optimism and high expectations.

Looks like the Sayville public relations team is back from winter vacation. Guess we will hear about the low level football and lax teams soon.

I guess the [ChillLaxin] squad never left the board. Get a life amigo.

How does Suffolk County A division look this year will it be Ward Melville West Islip again battling for top spot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does Suffolk County A division look this year will it be Ward Melville West Islip again battling for top spot

Melville probably. West Islip doubtful. I don't think West Islip has been in the mix for at least 5 years. Maybe WI will compete but I think the front runners will be Ward Melville, Smithtown West, Connetquot, Smithtown East, HHE. Only time will tell.

How about Suffolk B? How's that div stacking up? Anyone get to see any of the Islip winter league games?

"A" LIC will be WM v. Massapequa and I think there is a chance both teams come into the game undefeated - I do not see any team beating either one of them in conference, although I am not sure what their non-conference schedule is

Sayville stinks, everyone knows that.

Ha.
Who is this guy? Sayville has had great success since its inception. Obviously this poster is kid.

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

Loses don't tell you much
Quality wins do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

15 years! How about the last 4, that’s a better barometer of the program.

"I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years."

LOl. Funny. Way to piggy back on the football teams success. Yes, football team has been consistently strong over the last 15 years and the lax team has had an occasional blip of success would be more like it. Yes, agree to that statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

Sayville Lacrosse has been mediocre to very bad last 5 years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years."

LOl. Funny. Way to piggy back on the football teams success. Yes, football team has been consistently strong over the last 15 years and the lax team has had an occasional blip of success would be more like it. Yes, agree to that statement.

Sorry.....Very weak football league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"A" LIC will be WM v. Massapequa and I think there is a chance both teams come into the game undefeated - I do not see any team beating either one of them in conference, although I am not sure what their non-conference schedule is

Both will be very strong especially defensively. Who has the best chance to knock one of them off?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years."

LOl. Funny. Way to piggy back on the football teams success. Yes, football team has been consistently strong over the last 15 years and the lax team has had an occasional blip of success would be more like it. Yes, agree to that statement.

Sorry.....Very weak football league

West Hampton could probably beat the champions of Division 1 & 2, and Hills West would come pretty close to doing the same. What a dumb response, Sayville is a good football town, and would compete as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years."

LOl. Funny. Way to piggy back on the football teams success. Yes, football team has been consistently strong over the last 15 years and the lax team has had an occasional blip of success would be more like it. Yes, agree to that statement.

Sorry.....Very weak football league

West Hampton could probably beat the champions of Division 1 & 2, and Hills West would come pretty close to doing the same. What a dumb response, Sayville is a good football town, and would compete as well.

you kinda made everyone's point - the original post said "most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years" you come back and say "Sayville is a 'good' football town" - a good football town and a weak lacrosse team is hardly the most successful combo in Suffolk.

"weak league"

I'm not from Sayville, but stuff it Sayville football hater. yes, their lax team is mediocre as is the program, but there football team is consistently at the top of their conference-so relative to who else is their size school inthat conference they are arguably the best program. there is no argument-let them have that.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

"weak league"

I'm not from Sayville, but stuff it Sayville football hater. yes, their lax team is mediocre as is the program, but there football team is consistently at the top of their conference-so relative to who else is their size school inthat conference they are arguably the best program. there is no argument-let them have that.

Hmmm.....so is the best team in the weakest league considered a top program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"weak league"

I'm not from Sayville, but stuff it Sayville football hater. yes, their lax team is mediocre as is the program, but there football team is consistently at the top of their conference-so relative to who else is their size school inthat conference they are arguably the best program. there is no argument-let them have that.

"their"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

you are an [ChillLaxin]whole

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

Long Beach has the best Surfing/lacrosse program

Jericho has the best Chess/lacrosse program

Half Hollow Hills has the best Fencing/lacrosse program

Anyone else want to carry on this ridiculous idea?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

Long Beach has the best Surfing/lacrosse program

Jericho has the best Chess/lacrosse program

Half Hollow Hills has the best Fencing/lacrosse program

Anyone else want to carry on this ridiculous idea?

Did you really take this seriously. LOL

Its kinda like saying a certain school would be really good at graffiti and smoking in the boys room. Hope you are sharp enough to get this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

Long Beach has the best Surfing/lacrosse program

Jericho has the best Chess/lacrosse program

Half Hollow Hills has the best Fencing/lacrosse program

Anyone else want to carry on this ridiculous idea?

Did you really take this seriously. LOL

Its kinda like saying a certain school would be really good at graffiti and smoking in the boys room. Hope you are sharp enough to get this one.

Almost a perfect post - I give it a 10 for sarcastic content and a 9 for snark but a 2 point deduction for execution with the "sharp enough to get it" comment. For a combined score of 17 and out of medal contention. This post was funny and cutting but "sprayin' and vapin'" don't make people unable to understand a simple sarcastic post

"Hmmm.....so is the best team in the weakest league considered a top program."

Amongst its peer group, yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would say the Sayville football/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Suffolk over the past 15 years.

I would say that the Port Washington badminton/lacrosse program combination may be the most successful combo in Nassau over the past 15 years

We would both be wrong, but that doesn't mean we can't say it.

Long Beach has the best Surfing/lacrosse program

Jericho has the best Chess/lacrosse program

Half Hollow Hills has the best Fencing/lacrosse program

Anyone else want to carry on this ridiculous idea?

Did you really take this seriously. LOL

Its kinda like saying a certain school would be really good at graffiti and smoking in the boys room. Hope you are sharp enough to get this one.

Almost a perfect post - I give it a 10 for sarcastic content and a 9 for snark but a 2 point deduction for execution with the "sharp enough to get it" comment. For a combined score of 17 and out of medal contention. This post was funny and cutting but "sprayin' and vapin'" don't make people unable to understand a simple sarcastic post

Now these 2 posts have to be 2 of the funniest I have read in a long time .

What's going on in class "B" this year GC gonna run away with it?

You betcha they will, GC Mom!

MacArthur will be in the hunt

Is that a joke about macarthur? Will be at best 500.

Berner looks to reclaim its glory from the 70's this year and I expect big things out of Levittown Memorial this season as well. They've always come to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Berner looks to reclaim its glory from the 70's this year and I expect big things out of Levittown Memorial this season as well. They've always come to play.

Agreed.....they have 4 freshman who may be the best players in Nassau county already.

Yeah........ probably. haaaaa

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

Poll makes me laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poll makes me laugh.

Me too. Chaminade should be top 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poll makes me laugh.

T
Me too. Chaminade should be top 3.

Why? Because your sons on the team? Easy there Cowboy. They’re already stretching it at #5

Under Armour Final top 25
2014
Massapequa # 4
Chaminade # 9

2015
Syo # 10
Pequa # 14
SE # 16
Cham # 18

2016
CSH #11
WM #14
SYO # 16
SE #19

2017
CSH #6
WM #10
CHAM #22

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poll makes me laugh.

T
Me too. Chaminade should be top 3.

Why? Because your sons on the team? Easy there Cowboy. They’re already stretching it at #5

Nope, because your's is not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Agree, Culver and Landon are very expensive private schools that recruit so they need the ranking to justify there being. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Agree, Culver and Landon are very expensive private schools that recruit so they need the ranking to justify there being. .

For what its worth Inside Lacrosse/ Under Armor High School Lacrosse Rankings 2018 - A little more realistic. Nike/US Lacrosse has Cold Spring Harbor ranked in top 25 this year (13) and Brunswick at 21 no way Brunswick (Ct) 21 they are a top 5 no question, Number 3 Inside Lacrosse/UA

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...eseason-high-school-power-rankings/51400

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Agree, Culver and Landon are very expensive private schools that recruit so they need the ranking to justify there being. .

For what its worth Inside Lacrosse/ Under Armor High School Lacrosse Rankings 2018 - A little more realistic. Nike/US Lacrosse has Cold Spring Harbor ranked in top 25 this year (13) and Brunswick at 21 no way Brunswick (Ct) 21 they are a top 5 no question, Number 3 Inside Lacrosse/UA

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...eseason-high-school-power-rankings/51400

None of this matters until someone sponsors a tournament AND gets all 25 there. It’s about as pointless as the NCAA rankings that rank 20 teams but only 18 make the tournament. Waste of time. And nvm the fact of 1/2 of the teams are private and recruit kids. Dumb.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poll makes me laugh.

T
Me too. Chaminade should be top 3.

Why? Because your sons on the team? Easy there Cowboy. They’re already stretching it at #5

Nope, because your's is not.

Recent history shows it's unlikely at season end Cham will be in the top 10, let alone top 20.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Agree, Culver and Landon are very expensive private schools that recruit so they need the ranking to justify there being. .

Both teams are loaded with men who should be college sophomores. If they can't beat a bunch of HS boys, they're in trouble. As are the Coaches of the Colleges they're committed to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poll makes me laugh.

T
Me too. Chaminade should be top 3.

Why? Because your sons on the team? Easy there Cowboy. They’re already stretching it at #5

Nope, because your's is not.

Recent history shows it's unlikely at season end Cham will be in the top 10, let alone top 20.

Facts don’t lie Chammy dad. Your kid and team will will licking their wounds from the beat downs that await. Preseason chest beating is about all you can be confident about, ya hammerhead! Oh yea, when Johnny gets to college he will disappear into lax oblivion, so enjoy what little you have left.

Stop crying about schools like Landon and leave your island and travel down to DC and play the #1 team from last year and this year's preseason #1....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop crying about schools like Landon and leave your island and travel down to DC and play the #1 team from last year and this year's preseason #1....

As usual you would want LI to travel to you......guess you need every advantage......lets see, recruiting players, older players etc, home field, home team refs who like to call that soft/finesse game you play down there. Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop crying about schools like Landon and leave your island and travel down to DC and play the #1 team from last year and this year's preseason #1....

It's that easy is it? You just want it and it happens?? Idiotic statements such as this one are indications that our educational system failed long ago . . .or people just got stupid after they got older!

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Ha....touché'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Ha....touché'

Don't forget to bring a visor in case the sun is out.

Would anyone agree that Suffolk A and Nassau A are the one of the strongest division in the nation ? I know B,C have great teams also but in general ? Had a debate with someone and they said national prep school league and Fairfield county blow them away don’t know much about them. Was I wrong lol ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would anyone agree that Suffolk A and Nassau A are the one of the strongest division in the nation ? I know B,C have great teams also but in general ? Had a debate with someone and they said national prep school league and Fairfield county blow them away don’t know much about them. Was I wrong lol ?

I think that the top 3 or 4 of our Class A in Nassau and Suffolk can hang with most programs. I dont think that they would do well versus Landon, Boys Latin, Haverford, Deerfield, Brunswicks, Culvers etc. Chaminade and St Anthonys have hard times with these programs. These are all schools that recruit and players go there for sports. All the power to the families that send their kids to these elite privates. If you look at their rosters many have players from Long Island hotbed lacrosse programs. I really dont think Fairfield County is comparable to the National Prep School league. I think they are very similar to the Nassau and Suffolk class A.

Isn’t Landon like $60k a year with room and board and other extras ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/high-...ke-us-lacrosse-boys-high-school-rankings

talk about fake news USLAXMAG just keeping every body happy with those rankings across country with those rankings.

Agree, Culver and Landon are very expensive private schools that recruit so they need the ranking to justify there being. .

Amen. Top HS sports now an arms race with private school recruitment, scholarships and PG's. They need to separate out the sports factory schools form genuine high schools.

Most insane is when IMG is listed in polls ... might as well list Lizards or NXT pro touring team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Ha....touché'

Don't forget to bring a visor in case the sun is out.

So, so true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Ha....touché'

Don't forget to bring a visor in case the sun is out.

So, so true!

Also true that those three teams will spank your team and walk away laughing while you put aloe on your arms from the sunburn you got from wearing your favorite sleeveless t shirt and cut off jean shorts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Bring your soft players with mom-Buffy and dad-Brad dressed in vinyard vines apparel and come to LI and play."

We don't need them to come up for that, we can get is by scheduling games with CSH, GC or Manhasset.

Ha....touché'

Don't forget to bring a visor in case the sun is out.

So, so true!

Also true that those three teams will spank your team and walk away laughing while you put aloe on your arms from the sunburn you got from wearing your favorite sleeveless t shirt and cut off jean shorts.

...Also true in most cases...funny stuff. LI is at least united against DC/MD!

Landon is a day school, no boarding students. I think the price tag is @ $40K.
Georgetown Prep has boarders. Brian Cashman is an alum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Berner looks to reclaim its glory from the 70's this year and I expect big things out of Levittown Memorial this season as well. They've always come to play.

Levittown Memorial! That is funny!

Levittown Memorial ...does work- release apply to high school lax?....

It was a joke. Memorial was a strong high program that produced many good players. Closed in the 80's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a joke. Memorial was a strong high program that produced many good players. Closed in the 80's.

I played there the year they closed, only played on the Freshman team and then went to Division. Many of those guys played at the college level and many coach HS and College. Combining with Division was a good thing, the team sizes were getting really small.

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Yes they have some very good 9th graders, big year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Don't think they will be top 4.

Huntington looks like the new up and coming Suffolk threat. Travis needs a title.

Needs to learn how to coach!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington looks like the new up and coming Suffolk threat. Travis needs a title.

No they don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Needs to learn how to coach!!!!!

We know your kid sits the bench. It's not coaches fault. He's coached my son for a year and he's been terrific.

My son doesn’t even play for Huntington!!!! My sons high school beat both his hogs school and travel badly!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son doesn’t even play for Huntington!!!! My sons high school beat both his hogs school and travel badly!!!

What does this even mean??!

That he stinks as coach!!!

Thoughts on Chaminade? Heard they should be legit ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son doesn’t even play for Huntington!!!! My sons high school beat both his hogs school and travel badly!!!

Sounds like you're an angry elf. You might not like KT but he's been a great coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Chaminade? Heard they should be legit ?

Same Sh$t every year about Chaminade. "Just do it"

Crazy Huntington fan screaming "FREDO!" all the time...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crazy Huntington fan screaming "FREDO!" all the time...

lol ! i know the guilty party

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Don't think they will be top 4.

West Islip will always complete the senior class is weak but they have some very good young talent .. Those two coaches any place on the Island wish they would coach there town .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Don't think they will be top 4.

West Islip will always complete the senior class is weak but they have some very good young talent .. Those two coaches any place on the Island wish they would coach there town .

They have not competed in 5 years.

Fredo...lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

excellent coach and prepares his teams well. Plays most of his players during games so they get game time feel and if game is close he is dangerous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn’t Landon like $60k a year with room and board and other extras ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn’t Landon like $60k a year with room and board and other extras ?

Isn’t Culver about 60k

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn’t Landon like $60k a year with room and board and other extras ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn’t Landon like $60k a year with room and board and other extras ?

Isn’t Culver about 60k

Do you send your kid there? Why do you care what it costs?

I GUESS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR IS NOT COMPETING , YOU WOULD WISH TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS . WEST ISLIP STANDARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKE STATES OR BUST NOT A BAD GOAL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I GUESS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR IS NOT COMPETING , YOU WOULD WISH TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS . WEST ISLIP STANDARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKE STATES OR BUST NOT A BAD GOAL

STOP YELLING!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I GUESS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR IS NOT COMPETING , YOU WOULD WISH TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS . WEST ISLIP STANDARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKE STATES OR BUST NOT A BAD GOAL

STOP YELLING!

MIKE FRANCESA NOW ON BotC!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I GUESS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR IS NOT COMPETING , YOU WOULD WISH TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS . WEST ISLIP STANDARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKE STATES OR BUST NOT A BAD GOAL

It has been a bust for a while then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I GUESS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR IS NOT COMPETING , YOU WOULD WISH TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS . WEST ISLIP STANDARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKE STATES OR BUST NOT A BAD GOAL

STOP YELLING!

MIKE FRANCESA NOW ON BotC!!!

Very funny doggy

Not from WI, Nassau, but please...WI is among the two best programs in Suffolk with WM. Not going to have the stud athletes every year but every year they are one of the best teams in the county whether they win it all or not. Stop the nonsense its a program, not a flash in the pan. Give credit where credit is due. Go CSH...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not from WI, Nassau, but please...WI is among the two best programs in Suffolk with WM. Not going to have the stud athletes every year but every year they are one of the best teams in the county whether they win it all or not. Stop the nonsense its a program, not a flash in the pan. Give credit where credit is due. Go CSH...

They also run the best summer camp out there. Highly recommend that you do it, they welcome kids from other districts with open arms.

So besides Massapequa immediately improving with the transfer in of the Kellenberg D (Duke Commit), what schools will benefit (or get hurt) from a transfer student athlete.

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Is there a "transfer rule" of some sort? I think I remember a girl transferring in to St Anthonys not being able to play in league games or something . Someone with knowledge please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Sorry Pal. I'm the poster and my kids go to Catholic schools and I don't live near Massapequa...

So, no- not bragging about any of my kids, just asking a real lacrosse question.

If you can't answer, please ignore - don't just post to be a [ChillLaxin].

Nice try Inspector.

I believe that is a St. Anthony rule. You cant transfer in to play senior year. I dont know of any transfer rule in publics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe that is a St. Anthony rule. You cant transfer in to play senior year. I dont know of any transfer rule in publics

Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will WI look this year? Will Craig be able to put a dominant team together in his last year?

Don't think they will be top 4.

West Islip will always complete the senior class is weak but they have some very good young talent .. Those two coaches any place on the Island wish they would coach there town .

Do they even have a D1 senior ? When was the last time that happened ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

Will the possible 8 inches of snow projected for Wednesday eliminate some scrimmages in order to maintain the regular season schedule. Our team is scheduled for one on the 15th. How many days of practice are required before they can play other teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington looks like the new up and coming Suffolk threat. Travis needs a title.

HaHa, how does your coach look now?
Who's next? Drowning ship over there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

Will the possible 8 inches of snow projected for Wednesday eliminate some scrimmages in order to maintain the regular season schedule. Our team is scheduled for one on the 15th. How many days of practice are required before they can play other teams?

our team traditionally scrimmages on the Wed. of week two, I do not know the rules but we have 8 practices before the first scrimmage and a total of 10 practices and 3 scrimmages before the first game - hope that helps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

Will the possible 8 inches of snow projected for Wednesday eliminate some scrimmages in order to maintain the regular season schedule. Our team is scheduled for one on the 15th. How many days of practice are required before they can play other teams?

our team traditionally scrimmages on the Wed. of week two, I do not know the rules but we have 8 practices before the first scrimmage and a total of 10 practices and 3 scrimmages before the first game - hope that helps

http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/P...014-2015%20NYSPHSAA%20Handbook%20814.pdf

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

Will the possible 8 inches of snow projected for Wednesday eliminate some scrimmages in order to maintain the regular season schedule. Our team is scheduled for one on the 15th. How many days of practice are required before they can play other teams?

our team traditionally scrimmages on the Wed. of week two, I do not know the rules but we have 8 practices before the first scrimmage and a total of 10 practices and 3 scrimmages before the first game - hope that helps

"14.03 Practice Requirements:
Number of practices prior to first scrimmage: 8 (team), 6 (individual)
Number of practices prior to first contest: 10 (team), 8 (individual)"

http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/PDF/Handbook/2018-19%20Handbook/NYSPHSAA%20Handbook.pdf

Know your facts before you say a stupid statement about a program that pumps out talent all the time ..

"Know your facts before you say a stupid statement about a program that pumps out talent all the time .."

What is this in reference to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Know your facts before you say a stupid statement about a program that pumps out talent all the time ..

Another BOTC tourettes post . . .

First day of practice down. Best of luck to everyone this year. Should be fun.

Will the possible 8 inches of snow projected for Wednesday eliminate some scrimmages in order to maintain the regular season schedule. Our team is scheduled for one on the 15th. How many days of practice are required before they can play other teams? [/quote]

our team traditionally scrimmages on the Wed. of week two, I do not know the rules but we have 8 practices before the first scrimmage and a total of 10 practices and 3 scrimmages before the first game - hope that helps [/quote]

"14.03 Practice Requirements:
Number of practices prior to first scrimmage: 8 (team), 6 (individual)
Number of practices prior to first contest: 10 (team), 8 (individual)"

http://www.nysphsaa.org/Portals/0/PDF/Handbook/2018-19%20Handbook/NYSPHSAA%20Handbook.pdf[/quote]

—-if it snows and the boys can practice in the gym or parking lot at school it counts as a practice!

everyone will stay on schedule by practicing n gyms. The only day lost will be a SNOW DAY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington looks like the new up and coming Suffolk threat. Travis needs a title.

HaHa, how does your coach look now?
Who's next? Drowning ship over there!

Ships don't drown . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington looks like the new up and coming Suffolk threat. Travis needs a title.

HaHa, how does your coach look now?
Who's next? Drowning ship over there!

Ships don't drown . . .

Who's the captain of the ship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

or maybe, just maybe, by April 1st there will be a few games in the books for all to see who is rockin' and rollin'.

Why "announce" on BOTC who the Surprise team of the year? Removes the sleeper factor. I am sure the date could have been 4/7 or 4/14. Thinking about it 4/1 is a good date, 2-3 games may have been in by 4/1. (one caveat is SOS)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

or maybe, just maybe, by April 1st there will be a few games in the books for all to see who is rockin' and rollin'.

Why "announce" on BOTC who the Surprise team of the year? Removes the sleeper factor. I am sure the date could have been 4/7 or 4/14. Thinking about it 4/1 is a good date, 2-3 games may have been in by 4/1. (one caveat is SOS)

Duh!

Did you even read the initial post?
Nobody announced a "surprise team"...

The question was asked about any significant transfers from one school to another like the Duke commit (Kberg D transfer to Pequa?

F for your entire post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

or maybe, just maybe, by April 1st there will be a few games in the books for all to see who is rockin' and rollin'.

Why "announce" on BOTC who the Surprise team of the year? Removes the sleeper factor. I am sure the date could have been 4/7 or 4/14. Thinking about it 4/1 is a good date, 2-3 games may have been in by 4/1. (one caveat is SOS)

Duh!

Did you even read the initial post?
Nobody announced a "surprise team"...

The question was asked about any significant transfers from one school to another like the Duke commit (Kberg D transfer to Pequa?

F for your entire post.

Lighten up Francis

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cute way to brag about your kid transferring to pequa

Not the dad or original pster, but sounds like a mature question.

Why announce, it will become obvious and you'll all know by April 1st.

That was quite possibly the dumbest response ever on this board.
First, it was not an "announcement" it was a question.

April 1 is the magic date huh?

By your logic, on April 1 can you post the score of the Ward Melville v Chaminade Game on April 7 and the Woodstick classic on April 28th? Thanks.

or maybe, just maybe, by April 1st there will be a few games in the books for all to see who is rockin' and rollin'.

Why "announce" on BOTC who the Surprise team of the year? Removes the sleeper factor. I am sure the date could have been 4/7 or 4/14. Thinking about it 4/1 is a good date, 2-3 games may have been in by 4/1. (one caveat is SOS)

Duh!

Did you even read the initial post?
Nobody announced a "surprise team"...

The question was asked about any significant transfers from one school to another like the Duke commit (Kberg D transfer to Pequa?

F for your entire post.

Okay, Or maybe I understood better than you did, we will see come 4/1. And if what I think might happen doesn't, no pressure on anyone.

A+ for me!

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

who is gonna pay for the publics to travel? not the school districts. STFU with your assessment of publics on LI
Pequa, WM, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, Hewlett, Syosset, CSH would all give all these schools a run

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

Point 1) Why not move the 2 Li Catholics to CT the way their schedules read,geez one might think those 2 Catholics schools are affraid to stay home and play the public.

Point 2). This list is a joke, it has been said before, many of these are prep schools. Big difference from public HS, those public's on here much respect. And don't get me started about TP ( do you really apply to attend a 2800 student school whose avgs are above the charts, Hmm). Or Darien's antics.

Point 3) Li public's only get 2 non conference and don't have budgets. You think a ranked opponent will want to risk coming to Li and lose to a Riverhead or an ESM.

Go catholics! I'll give you a center part while I pat you on your head while you're... never mind.

Respect is earned and it seemed there was a public team or two from LI last year you conveniently left out... Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is gonna pay for the publics to travel? not the school districts. STFU with your assessment of publics on LI
Pequa, WM, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, Hewlett, Syosset, CSH would all give all these schools a run

Hewlett might beat Syosset but not anyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is gonna pay for the publics to travel? not the school districts. STFU with your assessment of publics on LI
Pequa, WM, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, Hewlett, Syosset, CSH would all give all these schools a run

All the lax mommies and daddybros will pay.

By the way, you could have been more selective in the schools you mentioned.

I know 20 year olds at Deerfield. I was in my 3rd year of college @ 20.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

So true most of these teams have 19 20 yr old seniors. I have been there done it. It is an advantage folks. Seen it first hand. People don't realize that period between 17 to 20 for young men is huge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

Give me a break you play cupcakes too. Lol, like SJB, Doms or IONA are much better than Lindy, BS or PatMed. Let those 3rd 4th line guys in, oh wait, Mommy and daddy will just rat out another family for little johnny 5th year playing over your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

Give me a break you play cupcakes too. Lol, like SJB, Doms or IONA are much better than Lindy, BS or PatMed. Let those 3rd 4th line guys in, oh wait, Mommy and daddy will just rat out another family for little johnny 5th year playing over your son.

True Lax Fan: How about an hour and 15 minute ride up to Darien or Yorktown or Greenwich or Wilton, is that too much to ask?

LI Lax DaddyBro : Nah, we'll just play teams like Jericho or GreatNeck or Seaford or Deer Park or Brentwood or North Bab. These teams are from Long Island so they are very competitive. Besides, my Lil' Vinny can get a run and look good against these slaps (err teams).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

5-7 is really pushing it. 3-5 more like it.

just look at the number of kids from each state that are committing to colleges to play lacrosse. the numbers are starting to even out a little but LI/NY are still on top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

5-7 is really pushing it. 3-5 more like it.

Again, Who really cares? Does this mean anything in the grand scheme of things? Some of those schools you mention would be the equivalent of 4 or 5 of our schools in size comparison. Take the best kids from the LI teams and put them up against any of these schools and it wouldn't be close.

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 LI teams on the RR preseason list (which is by far the most reliable and respected).

Can’t believe how low the reputation of LI lacrosse has fallen in the past 5 years. Especially the LI public programs.... gone are the days of WI and Scotty Craig or GC carrying the weight if LI in their shoulders.

Catholics always represent but usually not much higher than #5.

This year only WM and Pequa. It’s sad really! Respect for LI lax has diminished greatly.

Public programs no longer competing. They don’t play other national teams. Almost like LI teams hide from competition and rely on past teputation so as to not get exposed.

At least Catholics play real out of conference schedules bit the public’s don’t. MD and PA teams don’t want to come to LI and public’s don’t really travel.

1. Culver (Ind.)

2. Calvert Hall (Md.)

3. Hill Academy (Ont.)

4. McDonogh (Md.)

5. Brunswick (Conn.)

6. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)

7. Darien (Conn.)

8. Landon (Md.)

9. Victor (N.Y.)

10. Bullis (Md.)

11. Salisbury (Conn.)

12. Chaminade (N.Y.)

13. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Boys’ Latin (Md.)

15. Ward Melville (N.Y.)

16. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)

17. St. Sebastian’s (Mass.)

18. Massapequa (N.Y.)

19. IMG Academy (Fla.)

20. Delbarton (N.J.)

21. Belmont Hill (Mass.)

22. Gonzaga (D.C.)

23. Deerfield (Mass.)

24. Torrey Pines (Calif.)

25. Conestoga (Pa.)

231 Syosset (NY). bahhhahhahhah!

1. who cares? This list is meaningless, and LI beats everyone in travel.
2. Prep schools have kids who can't get into college on the first try so they go for one or two years to get their grades up to get in. So like someone else said, 20 year old Seniors playing
3. Why would a Public HS team pay to play any of these other teams? The competition is here, so this is where they will play out of conference.

Yes because playing Haverford, Brunswick, Avon, Culver, Calvert Hall, Darien, Delbarton, The Hill Academy, is the exact same level of competition as playing , Copaigue, North Babylon, Brentwood, Pat Med, Bay Shore, Lindenhurst, Floyd, in Suffolk 1 come on lets not get silly. The top 5 to 7 teams in any Public Long Island division are competitive teams, after that not so much

5-7 is really pushing it. 3-5 more like it.

Again, Who really cares? Does this mean anything in the grand scheme of things? Some of those schools you mention would be the equivalent of 4 or 5 of our schools in size comparison. Take the best kids from the LI teams and put them up against any of these schools and it wouldn't be close.

Who cares? It's a lacrosse blog and this is a HS forum. At least it's a conversation that a lot of us enjoy debating. Sorry your district isn't on list. Take your who cares jealous elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

your post has no place on this board because it makes good sense!

You do what you can-Massapequa plays Ward Melville,manhasset,Chaminade,Smithtown East and Fairfield Prep. Who you playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

Couldn’t have said it better. There is no comparison and these prep schools should have their own ranking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

Couldn’t have said it better. There is no comparison and these prep schools should have their own ranking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

Couldn’t have said it better. There is no comparison and these prep schools should have their own ranking.

True. I'd rather have my son get great grades and go IVY, than paying 55k for a PG program so he can sit the bench on DUKE.

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Parental Guidance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Not quite. It most likely means you're a spectacular player that needs an additional year to get your academic standing up. Not everyone loves school, and for some it doesn't come as easy. That's what a PG was always about. A post graduate year after graduating on age from HS. Some call holdbacks PG's, they are not. They are the cheaters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My public school is rank in top 20, if our 4 D1 seniors from last year did a PG year and where still on team we be top 5 in nation. Please don't compare rich cheating kids, to hard working on age public kids.

Might be the best post ever on this site. Most of these top schools are loaded with kids that are nearly 20 years old or will be 20 by season end. They've been recruited to play at these schools from all over the country and Canada. LI publics on this list are made up of kids from one small town. Not even are remotely close apples to apples comparison.

Your exactly correct. It's not about comparing individual talent, the overall recruiting numbers are proof of that. Those private and catholic teams are what they are because of all the reasons you stated (heavy recruitment, Pg's, geography etc.) Taking that into account however, those teams absolutely play the game at a different level than the average Long Island high school team, and well they should. Watch a game and there is no comparison, except of course for the top few LI teams. When people on here start making ridiculous statements that the teams on the list do not come to Long Island in fear of being upset I HIGHLY doubt that is the reason.

Just so everyone is aware a Public school by law can not play schools that have PG's in the program this is a fact . But in all honesty public schools form where ever can not compete with the Elite Prep Schools that is a fact because ONE they recruit and two they all have the oldest kids on the field . Why do you think all the top D1 teams take prep kids first because the are gaining an extra year of physical growth . Just enjoy your HS experience with your son and don't worry what other teams outside your sons league is doing ... Good Luck this Season to all ...

Couldn’t have said it better. There is no comparison and these prep schools should have their own ranking.

True. I'd rather have my son get great grades and go IVY, than paying 55k for a PG program so he can sit the bench on DUKE.

You think no PG's go IVY? Take a look ath their rosters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Not quite. It most likely means you're a spectacular player that needs an additional year to get your academic standing up. Not everyone loves school, and for some it doesn't come as easy. That's what a PG was always about. A post graduate year after graduating on age from HS. Some call holdbacks PG's, they are not. They are the cheaters.

Maybe you haven't heard about the (not so) new trend of players who claim they INTEND to do a PG year and play down with that as the stated reason . . .

Any Nassau/Suffolk Varsity teams bring up 8th graders??? 2022 has a lot of talent

Get a grip sparky! We know ur kid was brought up to varsity because your town is that bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Not quite. It most likely means you're a spectacular player that needs an additional year to get your academic standing up. Not everyone loves school, and for some it doesn't come as easy. That's what a PG was always about. A post graduate year after graduating on age from HS. Some call holdbacks PG's, they are not. They are the cheaters.

This may have been the case years ago but now it's for the unscrupulous who PG their kid or even transfer schools and repeat 8th grade so they can get an unfair advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a grip sparky! We know ur kid was brought up to varsity because your town is that bad.

-pretty sure Manhasset played for a county championship last year with an 8th grader....North Shore too....but that’s none of my business though.

What happened over at Huntington? Big shake up? New Coach?? I thought they had a great Towson player as coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Not quite. It most likely means you're a spectacular player that needs an additional year to get your academic standing up. Not everyone loves school, and for some it doesn't come as easy. That's what a PG was always about. A post graduate year after graduating on age from HS. Some call holdbacks PG's, they are not. They are the cheaters.

This may have been the case years ago but now it's for the unscrupulous who PG their kid or even transfer schools and repeat 8th grade so they can get an unfair advantage.

That's called a "hold back". Not disagreeing with your sentiment, but an on age PG is not a cheater. They graduate HS on age, then play a post grad year at a prep school that plays in a league with other PG's. Deerfield is an example of a school that plays in such a league. No unfair advantage or unscrupulous behavior. It's called bettering oneself. Get past your anger and recognize the difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Point Guard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forgive my ignorance, but what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate

It means your not one of the stand out players in your age group, so you repeat the grade so u play against younger kids.

Not quite. It most likely means you're a spectacular player that needs an additional year to get your academic standing up. Not everyone loves school, and for some it doesn't come as easy. That's what a PG was always about. A post graduate year after graduating on age from HS. Some call holdbacks PG's, they are not. They are the cheaters.

This may have been the case years ago but now it's for the unscrupulous who PG their kid or even transfer schools and repeat 8th grade so they can get an unfair advantage.

That's called a "hold back". Not disagreeing with your sentiment, but an on age PG is not a cheater. They graduate HS on age, then play a post grad year at a prep school that plays in a league with other PG's. Deerfield is an example of a school that plays in such a league. No unfair advantage or unscrupulous behavior. It's called bettering oneself. Get past your anger and recognize the difference.

They will never get past their anger, jealousy or bitterness. Certain people blame their shortcomings on others.

Doing a PG year is nothing new. I went to college in the mid 80's and 30% of my teammates had done a PG year (2 from LI). We also had three or four Junior College Transfers (not enough of that these days). We also had one or two kids transfer in as well as one or two transfer out. The Baltimore kids were always older than the LI kids. None of this is new. there were certainly kindergarten holdbacks from LI, Baltimore and Phily. I think the re-class in 8th grade is something new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any Nassau/Suffolk Varsity teams bring up 8th graders??? 2022 has a lot of talent

One week in of formal practices and no one knows who will be where until an actual scrimmage or game is played - practice means nothing yet . . .

think about what you are saying 2022 playing varsity please get off your kids band wagon and let the process take place ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get a grip sparky! We know ur kid was brought up to varsity because your town is that bad.

-pretty sure Manhasset played for a county championship last year with an 8th grader....North Shore too....but that’s none of my business though.

NS played for a county championship??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

think about what you are saying 2022 playing varsity please get off your kids band wagon and let the process take place ..

Agree let them play . Reasons why 8th's are pulled are weak school, no talent at varsity usually. Also most 8th's that r up this year were born 2003.

Perfect way to get your kid injured. Sounds like it’s more for Daddy’s ego.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Perfect way to get your kid injured. Sounds like it’s more for Daddy’s ego.

There are exceptions and occasionally it is fine but it is generally a bad idea. Put aside the worthiness of the program, talent of the kid playing, etc., your son is in 8th grade and going to be interacting with many kids 4 years older than he is. The coach will tell the upper classman to be on their best behavior but, even when behaving, they will be discussing things that you don't need to have your 8th grade son involved in at this time in his life. One more year of growing up won't hurt him and, if that good, 4 years of varsity is still very impressive.

I agree about the age concern. My 8th grader played varsity last year. While it was worth it for the lacrosse, the team is very important. Only half the time they spend together is on the field. The rest is in the locker room and bus etc. The conversations and after practice activities are very different in the varsity locker room than the JV locker room and especially the MS locker room. Most middle school teams are not talking about the parties and the girls the way 18 year olds are. It is, or it should be a major concern as a parent.
I had some serious conversations with my boy before and through out the season. It was something I failed to fully understand when the move was discussed beforehand

The above may be the best BOC post and SO true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree about the age concern. My 8th grader played varsity last year. While it was worth it for the lacrosse, the team is very important. Only half the time they spend together is on the field. The rest is in the locker room and bus etc. The conversations and after practice activities are very different in the varsity locker room than the JV locker room and especially the MS locker room. Most middle school teams are not talking about the parties and the girls the way 18 year olds are. It is, or it should be a major concern as a parent.
I had some serious conversations with my boy before and through out the season. It was something I failed to fully understand when the move was discussed beforehand

I'm having the same concerns about my 9th grader playing varsity. As it is he is on the younger side for a 9th grader, and he isn't into the same things that seniors are. Even though he played with these boys all summer, I'm concerned about the locker room talk. It is a different world for these younger boys, and he had some issues playing JV last year in the locker room with the 10th graders. They didn't think he belonged, and let him know it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any Nassau/Suffolk Varsity teams bring up 8th graders??? 2022 has a lot of talent

I heard 2026 is gonna be even better!!! Did you ever listen to yourself? No one cares. 99 percent of your 14 year olds have already peaked. Enjoy the game and enjoy watching your kids play. It goes fast. College even faster. The last lacrosse game I'll ever watch is the last game my kid plays in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

think about what you are saying 2022 playing varsity please get off your kids band wagon and let the process take place ..

Agree let them play . Reasons why 8th's are pulled are weak school, no talent at varsity usually. Also most 8th's that r up this year were born 2003.

not true - not true not ture

Each case is unique - players physical maturity, mental maturity, team needs, competitiveness of JV schedule - it is not easy for the coaches, player pr parents - CSH is not a weak team and they had an 8th grader who just graduated and it worked out well -

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

This snow will push back or cancel the ability to scrimmage. darn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

This snow will push back or cancel the ability to scrimmage. darn

If your school's teams are not getting practice inside in the gym today, shame on them!

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

This snow will push back or cancel the ability to scrimmage. darn

If your school's teams are not getting practice inside in the gym today, shame on them!

You do realize that if the school is closed you can't practice, anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

We're closed at CSH and my dad's limo couldn't get me to practice today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

We're closed at CSH and my dad's limo couldn't get me to practice today.

LOL- that 6-way this weekend is in jeapordy . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

You're an stunad. I had a long talk with my coach about the fact that I didn't want my son to play Varsity as a 9th grader, and actually set my son's expectations to not be upset if he didn't make it. The coach agreed to not pull my son up if he wouldn't be able to contribute, and we both agreed that another year of JV would be good.

My son worked his but off, hit the gym 5 days a week, worked with the older starters and earned his way up. The coach said that he will play, although there is no guarantee, and the team needs him and his ability. So don't be bitter and take away what many of these young men have earned. I applaud any 8th and 9th grader who worked their way onto the varsity team this year.

That is great Stu... You are the 10%. They're out there. Good for you and your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

My son plays at one of the top schools (he was not brought up as 9th grader) . The players who were brought up deserved to be. Most HS teams are not deep enough with talent so they need to bring kids up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

We're closed at CSH and my dad's limo couldn't get me to practice today.

LOL- that 6-way this weekend is in jeapordy . . .

Thursday scrimmage a bust also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

We're closed at CSH and my dad's limo couldn't get me to practice today.

LOL- that 6-way this weekend is in jeapordy . . .

Thursday scrimmage a bust also.

CSH is really closed today? No snow here in LV . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shame? Um, what if school is closed...?

"Snow" = there currently isn't any on the ground where I am. What school closed today because of "weather". Back in the day, we used to just call stuff like this "March"!

We're closed at CSH and my dad's limo couldn't get me to practice today.

LOL- that 6-way this weekend is in jeapordy . . .

Thursday scrimmage a bust also.

Our school is closed today, so no practice indoor or out. Scrimmage was already moved from Wed to Thursday, and now I guess we will be looking at Friday or Saturday. Many Nassau schools are open today, so this will probably only hurt Suffolk schools.

three inches, roads fine. I think they were worried about power failure again based on heavy snow on all the limbs then having to scramble to get the kids home... Lost day. stinks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

You're an stunad. I had a long talk with my coach about the fact that I didn't want my son to play Varsity as a 9th grader, and actually set my son's expectations to not be upset if he didn't make it. The coach agreed to not pull my son up if he wouldn't be able to contribute, and we both agreed that another year of JV would be good.

My son worked his but off, hit the gym 5 days a week, worked with the older starters and earned his way up. The coach said that he will play, although there is no guarantee, and the team needs him and his ability. So don't be bitter and take away what many of these young men have earned. I applaud any 8th and 9th grader who worked their way onto the varsity team this year.

Nice story, now tell the real one, not this nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

You're an stunad. I had a long talk with my coach about the fact that I didn't want my son to play Varsity as a 9th grader, and actually set my son's expectations to not be upset if he didn't make it. The coach agreed to not pull my son up if he wouldn't be able to contribute, and we both agreed that another year of JV would be good.

My son worked his but off, hit the gym 5 days a week, worked with the older starters and earned his way up. The coach said that he will play, although there is no guarantee, and the team needs him and his ability. So don't be bitter and take away what many of these young men have earned. I applaud any 8th and 9th grader who worked their way onto the varsity team this year.

If you have a both an 8th and 9th grade playing varsity, I have to ask, "what school your kids are in?". West Hempstead??!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8th/9th graders on varsity is largely about the dad pounding his chest for the kid to be on Varsity and him asking to try out and be on the team and threatening to leave if he is not. 90% of the time. Dad's ego. Every now and then some holdback is that good and developed and actually belongs at that level. usually not. Go Dad's!

You're an stunad. I had a long talk with my coach about the fact that I didn't want my son to play Varsity as a 9th grader, and actually set my son's expectations to not be upset if he didn't make it. The coach agreed to not pull my son up if he wouldn't be able to contribute, and we both agreed that another year of JV would be good.

My son worked his but off, hit the gym 5 days a week, worked with the older starters and earned his way up. The coach said that he will play, although there is no guarantee, and the team needs him and his ability. So don't be bitter and take away what many of these young men have earned. I applaud any 8th and 9th grader who worked their way onto the varsity team this year.

If you have a both an 8th and 9th grade playing varsity, I have to ask, "what school your kids are in?". West Hempstead??!

That is a good one ....West Hempstead

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Gavone...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

no...not long talk with THE coach..he said........"I had long talk with MY coach"......again, says it all....helicopter parent...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know 20 year olds at Deerfield. I was in my 3rd year of college @ 20.

How old is Tehoke Nanticoke who played at IMG Last year. The only thing I saw was that he was 20 last year. Take out all the PGs, pre-firsts, re-classes and the real HS Rankings are;

Darien (Conn.)
Victor (N.Y.)
Chaminade (N.Y.) (does have some Re-classes)
Ward Melville (N.Y.)
St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
Massapequa (N.Y.)
Delbarton (N.J.)
Torrey Pines (Calif.)
Conestoga (Pa.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know 20 year olds at Deerfield. I was in my 3rd year of college @ 20.

How old is Tehoke Nanticoke who played at IMG Last year. The only thing I saw was that he was 20 last year. Take out all the PGs, pre-firsts, re-classes and the real HS Rankings are;

Darien (Conn.)
Victor (N.Y.)
Chaminade (N.Y.) (does have some Re-classes)
Ward Melville (N.Y.)
St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
Massapequa (N.Y.)
Delbarton (N.J.)
Torrey Pines (Calif.)
Conestoga (Pa.)

Tehoka Nantikoke will be 22 before he finishes his Freshman year of college, but fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

That's nuts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

Hes a year older than my college sophomore!

Unless the coach is abusing your son you have zero reason to talk with him and even if so, the AD is the proper channel. No coach is going to force an 8th or 9th grader to play on varsity if he or his parents don't want him to, and if he does he should not be in coaching. Save your wind. The parents know who the crazies ones are and the coaches certainly do to and we all laugh at you--doing your kids more harm then good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

Exactly! Want some help from the coach, send him a two sentence emai. He will certainly help you with that $1500 “scholarship “ .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

Exactly! Want some help from the coach, send him a two sentence emai. He will certainly help you with that $1500 “scholarship “ .

You do realize there are plenty of players that leverage lacrosse to just get into a school, and have no expectations of a scholarship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unless the coach is abusing your son you have zero reason to talk with him and even if so, the AD is the proper channel. No coach is going to force an 8th or 9th grader to play on varsity if he or his parents don't want him to, and if he does he should not be in coaching. Save your wind. The parents know who the crazies ones are and the coaches certainly do to and we all laugh at you--doing your kids more harm then good.

So, how exactly do you let a coach know if you want your 8th grader to play or not play on Varsity if (according to BOTC) you have zero reason for a parent to talk to your coach. Is it OK to answer a call if the the coach calls you?

Originally Posted by meco24

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

That's nuts.

that is 2 months younger than my son who is a senior

How about not having your son go to the tryout to begin with. Or have him discuss with the coach when the coach invites him. Or if he gets invited have a discussion with the AD. Sounds to me like you just wanted to talk about your sons opportunity and advanced ability relative to his peers in a public forum...

Congrats. Hope it all works out.

There are many valid reasons why someone would want to talk to a lacrosse coach. it is ok. don't listen to all these people who have the perfect child who is a lacrosse prodigy. I wouldn't approach a coach to see if my son or daughter can be moved up to varsity, the coaches will decide who is ready to practice and play at that level.

The only thing that is really taboo is trying to speak to the coach within 24 hours after a game. Other than that, go ahead and call. don't push your son or daughters skills on the coach, but ask questions and thank him for his time.

I have several friends who coach travel, high school and college. None of these guys are off limits to parents. They just don't want someone telling them their little johnnie is the greatest. You can ask what does he need to work on, how is his attitude and work ethic at practice, what advice can you share with us to keep reiterating to him at home. If this has to do with playing time, then I would definitely have my child speak to the coach directly or as our coach says- have a parent present so the child doesn't misinterpret anything he said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unless the coach is abusing your son you have zero reason to talk with him and even if so, the AD is the proper channel. No coach is going to force an 8th or 9th grader to play on varsity if he or his parents don't want him to, and if he does he should not be in coaching. Save your wind. The parents know who the crazies ones are and the coaches certainly do to and we all laugh at you--doing your kids more harm then good.

So, how exactly do you let a coach know if you want your 8th grader to play or not play on Varsity if (according to BOTC) you have zero reason for a parent to talk to your coach. Is it OK to answer a call if the the coach calls you?

In order to form a relationship with a HS coach, you get your son involved with the coaches off season workouts, if a coach likes what he sees he will invite and speak with the parent. and a conversation will organically happen.

if the younger player is varsity worthy the hs boys will also know and include him on emails and such. but that is all gone now becasaue isnt there a stupid 3 day "tryout" period for MS players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know 20 year olds at Deerfield. I was in my 3rd year of college @ 20.

How old is Tehoke Nanticoke who played at IMG Last year. The only thing I saw was that he was 20 last year. Take out all the PGs, pre-firsts, re-classes and the real HS Rankings are;

Darien (Conn.) (Thought you said take out prefirst)
Victor (N.Y.)
Chaminade (N.Y.) (does have some Re-classes) (thought you said take out prefirst and reclass)
Ward Melville (N.Y.)
St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) (Thought you said take pout prefirst - reclass)
Massapequa (N.Y.)
Delbarton (N.J.) (same)
Torrey Pines (Calif.) (i think they have a different definition of prefirst/reclass)
Conestoga (Pa.) Not to sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unless the coach is abusing your son you have zero reason to talk with him and even if so, the AD is the proper channel. No coach is going to force an 8th or 9th grader to play on varsity if he or his parents don't want him to, and if he does he should not be in coaching. Save your wind. The parents know who the crazies ones are and the coaches certainly do to and we all laugh at you--doing your kids more harm then good.

just imagining these phone calls from the coach top a BOTC parent

HS Coach: Dad, I wanted to talk to you about your 8th grade son being moved up to varsity
BOTC Dad: Screw off, I don't talk to my kids coaches

three years later
HS Coach: Dad, I got a call from Coach Wojcik about your son
BOTC Dad: I already told you, screw off, I don't talk to my kids coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are many valid reasons why someone would want to talk to a lacrosse coach. it is ok. don't listen to all these people who have the perfect child who is a lacrosse prodigy. I wouldn't approach a coach to see if my son or daughter can be moved up to varsity, the coaches will decide who is ready to practice and play at that level.

The only thing that is really taboo is trying to speak to the coach within 24 hours after a game. Other than that, go ahead and call. don't push your son or daughters skills on the coach, but ask questions and thank him for his time.

I have several friends who coach travel, high school and college. None of these guys are off limits to parents. They just don't want someone telling them their little johnnie is the greatest. You can ask what does he need to work on, how is his attitude and work ethic at practice, what advice can you share with us to keep reiterating to him at home. If this has to do with playing time, then I would definitely have my child speak to the coach directly or as our coach says- have a parent present so the child doesn't misinterpret anything he said.

totally agree with the above post - - most parents of kids planning on going on to play at the next level (D1-2-3 or club) will have many conversations with an involved coach and in most cases the coach will be the ones reaching out to the parents - they have a lot more experience with the college selection process and most want to be involved in the decision

He picked Pequa # 1

I speak to coach Powers every day, the only problem is he is walking away with is back to me,I have to yell but I think he here’s me because he gives me the thumbs up. Wait maybe it’s not the thumb, lol talk to coach not in my town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are many valid reasons why someone would want to talk to a lacrosse coach. it is ok. don't listen to all these people who have the perfect child who is a lacrosse prodigy. I wouldn't approach a coach to see if my son or daughter can be moved up to varsity, the coaches will decide who is ready to practice and play at that level.

The only thing that is really taboo is trying to speak to the coach within 24 hours after a game. Other than that, go ahead and call. don't push your son or daughters skills on the coach, but ask questions and thank him for his time.

I have several friends who coach travel, high school and college. None of these guys are off limits to parents. They just don't want someone telling them their little johnnie is the greatest. You can ask what does he need to work on, how is his attitude and work ethic at practice, what advice can you share with us to keep reiterating to him at home. If this has to do with playing time, then I would definitely have my child speak to the coach directly or as our coach says- have a parent present so the child doesn't misinterpret anything he said.

Great post.

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I speak to coach Powers every day, the only problem is he is walking away with is back to me,I have to yell but I think he here’s me because he gives me the thumbs up. Wait maybe it’s not the thumb, lol talk to coach not in my town.

No need to talk to Powers.. accept the man for who he is and watch the wins pile up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I speak to coach Powers every day, the only problem is he is walking away with is back to me,I have to yell but I think he here’s me because he gives me the thumbs up. Wait maybe it’s not the thumb, lol talk to coach not in my town.

No need to talk to Powers.. accept the man for who he is and watch the wins pile up.

No skin in this game (Massapequa), but if winning is the only measure, then by all means defer to that metric. If having a program that is both successful in competition as well as developing its players across the board to be the best that they can be, then maybe wins ISN'T the ONLY metric . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by meco24

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

That's nuts.

that is 2 months younger than my son who is a senior

did he take your kids spot on the Albany starting attack? if not, who gives a $h/! how old he is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I speak to coach Powers every day, the only problem is he is walking away with is back to me,I have to yell but I think he here’s me because he gives me the thumbs up. Wait maybe it’s not the thumb, lol talk to coach not in my town.

No need to talk to Powers.. accept the man for who he is and watch the wins pile up.

No skin in this game (Massapequa), but if winning is the only measure, then by all means defer to that metric. If having a program that is both successful in competition as well as developing its players across the board to be the best that they can be, then maybe wins ISN'T the ONLY metric . . .

Powers is not the head coach or the PAL director, so for my money, if you can get an assistant coach with that kind of lacrosse knowledge and coaching ability you grab him and you pile up the wins - let the head coach worry about developing players and building the program, Massapequa seems to have a pretty good handle on that.........signed jealous on the north shore

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

Why was Huntington coach fired?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

If your kid is getting pulled up and you’re not talking to the coach to make sure that it is the right thing for both the team and the player than you are a nut bag. Any kid that has a good coach and is looking to do the right thing will speak to the parent. My son’s coach approached me in ththe fall and told me his plan. He wanted to see if he would be able to contribute to the team over the winter and would give him the opportunity to play if he thought he could play. So if you haven’t had a conversation with the coach, then you really need to question your parenting skills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

Why was Huntington coach fired?

D.W.I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I had a talk with the coach says it all"

Other than possibly an academic or disciplinary matter there is NO REASON for parents to be speaking with high school coaches.

Aye, aye Captain!

Generally I agree that parents do not need to engage a coaches for other reasons than academic or disciplinary reasons. That said, if your son is serious about playing in college and is not an All-American or All-County then he will need some help and guidance from his parents in navigating the do's and don'ts as it relates to getting exposure to college coaches. It seems appropriate, if your son is on that path, to engage the coach since it is the proactive player (with help from parents) that will differentiate him from another player of equal caliber. Any disagreement here?

Leave the coaches alone nutbag

If your kid is getting pulled up and you’re not talking to the coach to make sure that it is the right thing for both the team and the player than you are a nut bag. Any kid that has a good coach and is looking to do the right thing will speak to the parent. My son’s coach approached me in ththe fall and told me his plan. He wanted to see if he would be able to contribute to the team over the winter and would give him the opportunity to play if he thought he could play. So if you haven’t had a conversation with the coach, then you really need to question your parenting skills.
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His he your oldest kid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

All of them or just the HC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by meco24

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tehoke dob 1/18/97. Smh

That's nuts.

that is 2 months younger than my son who is a senior

did he take your kids spot on the Albany starting attack? if not, who gives a $h/! how old he is?

hey db,
obviously, the several people discussing this post before you chimed in with a dumb [ChillLaxin]response, are the ones who cared enough to talk about it.

So coach goes to you for advice
Maybe he should go back to teaching drivers ed

Huntington was so good great role model!! Get a DWI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

Why was Huntington coach fired?

D.W.I

Are we talking about KT or JW??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

All of them or just the HC?

HC only I believe

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

for real? All these coaches do and fired for this? what is a non sanctioned facility? Good luck finding a coach at this time of year.

WOW, everyone should remember the saying "people in glass houses"- I don't think anyone is perfect and we all make mistakes. If someone in a fortune 500 company got a DWI, they would not be fired. I know because I work for a large company with several key employees who have gotten a DWI.

I am not condoning this behavior but I am not better than everyone else where I can Judge and I don't think all of you are either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unless the coach is abusing your son you have zero reason to talk with him and even if so, the AD is the proper channel. No coach is going to force an 8th or 9th grader to play on varsity if he or his parents don't want him to, and if he does he should not be in coaching. Save your wind. The parents know who the crazies ones are and the coaches certainly do to and we all laugh at you--doing your kids more harm then good.

The good HS coaches interact with the parents who are there for the program and support the TEAM. Some of us are actual doing this to help all of the boys and help the coaches when they ask. Why wouldn’t they do that? I personally know several Varsity footaball and Lacrosse coaches and they all look to work with the booster club parents. They don’t ever want to have a conversation about playing time and the 24 hour rule is a great one to follow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WOW, everyone should remember the saying "people in glass houses"- I don't think anyone is perfect and we all make mistakes. If someone in a fortune 500 company got a DWI, they would not be fired. I know because I work for a large company with several key employees who have gotten a DWI.

I am not condoning this behavior but I am not better than everyone else where I can Judge and I don't think all of you are either.

Not sure comparing a coach of children with adults in the workplace is a proper analogy . . . there are clearly many differences in acceptable behaviors allowed between these two completely different environments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port coaches fired for having kids drive to and from practice and non sanctioned facility

Huntington coach fired as well.

for real? All these coaches do and fired for this? what is a non sanctioned facility? Good luck finding a coach at this time of year.

More about the kids driving themselves. Apparently that’s a fireable offense. Port AD is horrible.

Did Massapequa and Ward Melville scrimmage today ? Results, commentary ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Massapequa and Ward Melville scrimmage today ? Results, commentary ?

No.

As for commentary .... Both teams should be very strong. If the stars align maybe they will meet again in the Long Island Championship. Both teams have a target on their back and every team they play will be up for the game trying to knock them off. I know Ward Melville returns many players with a lot of experience. Massapequa returns some very good players as well and I believe they picked up a nice addition to their defense. Smithtown West and Connetquot should be the two toughest league games (maybe Smithtown East) not sure who else will be strong (maybe HHH East). Who will challenge Massapequa? Farmingdale, Syosset? I think WM and Pequa have the two best coaching staffs as well. Time will tell but I think the edge has to go to Ward Melville due to their experience, depth and coaching. Remember, they are HS kids and anything is possible. Good luck to all the teams, it should be an exciting year.

Achilles Heel for both teams:

Ward Melville - Crazy Parents

Massapequa - Crazy Parents

I did not read or garner any judging in the PW and HUNT coaches firings. Just the reporting of relevant lax news and the reason for one of them. Now go back to your cubicle Dilbert and save the diatribe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Massapequa and Ward Melville scrimmage today ? Results, commentary ?

No.

As for commentary .... Both teams should be very strong. If the stars align maybe they will meet again in the Long Island Championship. Both teams have a target on their back and every team they play will be up for the game trying to knock them off. I know Ward Melville returns many players with a lot of experience. Massapequa returns some very good players as well and I believe they picked up a nice addition to their defense. Smithtown West and Connetquot should be the two toughest league games (maybe Smithtown East) not sure who else will be strong (maybe HHH East). Who will challenge Massapequa? Farmingdale, Syosset? I think WM and Pequa have the two best coaching staffs as well. Time will tell but I think the edge has to go to Ward Melville due to their experience, depth and coaching. Remember, they are HS kids and anything is possible. Good luck to all the teams, it should be an exciting year.

Achilles Heel for both teams:

Ward Melville - Crazy Parents

Massapequa - Crazy Parents

Achilles Heel for EVERY HS team - Crazy Parents! ;-)

The lax power forum is so much more civil. Really. I enjoy the sarcasm and bitterness and anger here though, kind of like slowing down while passing a car wreck...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did not read or garner any judging in the PW and HUNT coaches firings. Just the reporting of relevant lax news and the reason for one of them. Now go back to your cubicle Dilbert and save the diatribe.

What? you make no sense in your contribulous ranting of extraneous flubbing about your own meandering down a lonely highway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did not read or garner any judging in the PW and HUNT coaches firings. Just the reporting of relevant lax news and the reason for one of them. Now go back to your cubicle Dilbert and save the diatribe.

What? you make no sense in your contribulous ranting of extraneous flubbing about your own meandering down a lonely highway.

What is this word salad . . ?!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The lax power forum is so much more civil. Really. I enjoy the sarcasm and bitterness and anger here though, kind of like slowing down while passing a car wreck...

LMAO

I guess all of those cold St Paddy's day ournamenta did prep us all for HS. Sorry for bashing it all these years, instead here is a Thanks to you 91/my lacrosse tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did not read or garner any judging in the PW and HUNT coaches firings. Just the reporting of relevant lax news and the reason for one of them. Now go back to your cubicle Dilbert and save the diatribe.

What? you make no sense in your contribulous ranting of extraneous flubbing about your own meandering down a lonely highway.

How does what they posted not make sense. I will put it in a language you may understand.

I did not read or gather any judging by the individual that made the post of the individuals that were fired. All they were doing was reporting events that occurred in the lax world.

or

Yo no ones was makin funs of anyones. Theys was just letin peps know about stuff.

How did 3 way scrimmage go in Pequa yesterday?

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Add in the establishment of the "brand" and the desire to be part of it, and then continual success that comes with that. The programs that are perennially at the top top have it going in most every aspect - it is self fulfilling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Add in the establishment of the "brand" and the desire to be part of it, and then continual success that comes with that. The programs that are perennially at the top top have it going in most every aspect - it is self fulfilling.

So would you say that in certain districts with a winning lacrosse history, the better athletes gravitate to lacrosse as opposed to a districts where football/baseball is more of a tradition so the better athletes are inclined to focus on those sports? And in turn parents are more willing to spend on private lessons and clinics?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Add in the establishment of the "brand" and the desire to be part of it, and then continual success that comes with that. The programs that are perennially at the top top have it going in most every aspect - it is self fulfilling.

So would you say that in certain districts with a winning lacrosse history, the better athletes gravitate to lacrosse as opposed to a districts where football/baseball is more of a tradition so the better athletes are inclined to focus on those sports? And in turn parents are more willing to spend on private lessons and clinics?

Without a doubt, but I think it is more the season to season comparison, especially in non large schools. Show me any school in B or C that is always at the top of the lax world that also has a consistently solid baseball program. Lax will draw all of the best athletes in those schools for the spring; fall and winter sports are less in competition with lacrosse for athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Add in the establishment of the "brand" and the desire to be part of it, and then continual success that comes with that. The programs that are perennially at the top top have it going in most every aspect - it is self fulfilling.

So would you say that in certain districts with a winning lacrosse history, the better athletes gravitate to lacrosse as opposed to a districts where football/baseball is more of a tradition so the better athletes are inclined to focus on those sports? And in turn parents are more willing to spend on private lessons and clinics?

I wouldn’t say better athletes go to lacrosse . There can be better athletes that play soccer , football , wrestling it’s what your into. Wm has won of the best Ice Hockey teams in the state a lot of lacrosse people don’t know that because they don’t follow . Swr rocky point have good lax and wrestling programs . I believe lacrosse is more a privilege sport. Higher money district are very good in Lax , conn. Jersey , LI , Maryland very good to great teams from expensive or upper class areas . Look at dukes roster privilege roster .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Add in the establishment of the "brand" and the desire to be part of it, and then continual success that comes with that. The programs that are perennially at the top top have it going in most every aspect - it is self fulfilling.

So would you say that in certain districts with a winning lacrosse history, the better athletes gravitate to lacrosse as opposed to a districts where football/baseball is more of a tradition so the better athletes are inclined to focus on those sports? And in turn parents are more willing to spend on private lessons and clinics?

I wouldn’t say better athletes go to lacrosse . There can be better athletes that play soccer , football , wrestling it’s what your into. Wm has won of the best Ice Hockey teams in the state a lot of lacrosse people don’t know that because they don’t follow . Swr rocky point have good lax and wrestling programs . I believe lacrosse is more a privilege sport. Higher money district are very good in Lax , conn. Jersey , LI , Maryland very good to great teams from expensive or upper class areas . Look at dukes roster privilege roster .

With all due respect, LI hockey has come a long way, and has even turned out some pros, but it's club hockey. There is a whole host of schools in NY, all upstate, that play true interscholastic hockey under the NYPHSAA that are at least a tier above club. Would you say that a top college lax club team was on par with the top NCAA teams??

LI high school hockey is a joke!!! Any kid that made it to the NHL did not play LI high school hockey. They were in prep school or in USA program.

I think the higher end towns yes do get more privates lessons. Knew a few kids that do Faceoff and offensive players actually have pros and college guys come to there house for privates .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Tradition and culture are a big part of the reason. However, having parents who are willing (and able) to start their kids young and "pay to play" year round from Pre-K all the way up through HS. Doing so requires a lot of time, effort and money. Think of a family with multiple children all involved in the sport. They can easily spend in excess of $6,000 (after tax dollars) per year per child for 8 - 10 years. Equipment, Tuition, Training, Gas, Tolls, Hotels, food, drink etc... Very few kids will be able to compete without keeping up with the Joneses.

PEQUA not as great as they think

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Tradition and culture are a big part of the reason. However, having parents who are willing (and able) to start their kids young and "pay to play" year round from Pre-K all the way up through HS. Doing so requires a lot of time, effort and money. Think of a family with multiple children all involved in the sport. They can easily spend in excess of $6,000 (after tax dollars) per year per child for 8 - 10 years. Equipment, Tuition, Training, Gas, Tolls, Hotels, food, drink etc... Very few kids will be able to compete without keeping up with the Joneses.

All of the above are contributory factors. I think the most important piece of the puzzle is the willingness of families to resettle in the town they grew up in. When you have parents that played college level lacrosse, they must have been a pretty good player. No matter the division. When those parents have children, they are exposed to lacrosse and skill development at a very young age. The Coaches in these towns are folks who know everything about the game. They aren't the soccer Coach or Football Coach taking a team in the youth lax program like in other towns. Very early skill development in this sport is a huge leg up. Lesser athletes with greater skill mastery will win the day at the youth level every time. Lacrosse is different than other sports in this way. It can also be the difference at the HS level as well. If it weren't, then you could just give sticks to freak football and basketball players and win the games. You can't.
Ask the parents from Set, GC, WM, etc. if they played in college? I have, and many were great players in their day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Tradition and culture are a big part of the reason. However, having parents who are willing (and able) to start their kids young and "pay to play" year round from Pre-K all the way up through HS. Doing so requires a lot of time, effort and money. Think of a family with multiple children all involved in the sport. They can easily spend in excess of $6,000 (after tax dollars) per year per child for 8 - 10 years. Equipment, Tuition, Training, Gas, Tolls, Hotels, food, drink etc... Very few kids will be able to compete without keeping up with the Joneses.

This phenomenon of playing all year has not been around as long as the top lax schools maintaining their stature so it has to be more than that. GC and Manhasset, both conference B schools, constantly churn out excellent teams. Many kids often return to live there as adults and it goes back multiple generations. Maybe that is the connection.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

I would agree with that statement.

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

don't waist time with the booster club, run for the school board and control the AD and then you can get things done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

I would agree with that statement.

I believe that both of these posts were by Massapequa parents trying to get teams to take them lightly, they have a bunch of great players and every position and the best coaching staff on LI - their first real test will be in the LIC vs. WM and it should yield different results than last year .

Keep those expectations high Massapequa, you are that good

It has everything to do with the parents, either willingness (and means) to further their child's skill. The parents familiarity with the sport; either they played or are from a town that played. And yes a big one is the youth coach that played and wanted to get his son involved since he had a lax stick in the crib.

Funny many of the kids who are good, can all be traced to one of these if not more of the above. In my town, many of better player parents migrated from a town with a big tradition. Couple that with coaches that they themselves played at the next level. Its not everything, but it definitely helps.

I will say this, lacrosse in our day (although a great sport) did take a back seat to Baseball. I think that evolution happened slowly since us parents were in HS, but then again what hasn't eveolved.

Not sure you can say who is looking good or bad in just the past few days. The weather gets bad again this week giving Li another Set back. It will get better, lets just hope any April rain happens over night.

Good luck to all of the boys in 2018. The only question you can ask now is, did you do enough to prepare? Did you out work your teammate at practice, did you do the extras, or did you think that was beneath you or being a blow-hard. Only you can look yourself in the mirror. Hard work shows up and pays off.

As it may not be too late, just take a hard look at the ebb and flows of the NCAA's, whether hoops or Lax. You don't have to look that far to see that sports these days are anyone's game. That's why you play the games.

Don't regret the season, its not too late.

Have fun, play hard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure you can say who is looking good or bad in just the past few days. The weather gets bad again this week giving Li another Set back. It will get better, lets just hope any April rain happens over night.

Good luck to all of the boys in 2018. The only question you can ask now is, did you do enough to prepare? Did you out work your teammate at practice, did you do the extras, or did you think that was beneath you or being a blow-hard. Only you can look yourself in the mirror. Hard work shows up and pays off.

As it may not be too late, just take a hard look at the ebb and flows of the NCAA's, whether hoops or Lax. You don't have to look that far to see that sports these days are anyone's game. That's why you play the games.

Don't regret the season, its not too late.

Have fun, play hard!

Well written. Good luck everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

Do you work out with the varsity last summer and this winter? Does the coach even know who your kid is? The best way is to have your son approach the coach and mention his interest. I have seen this go three ways. 1. Parent pushes coaches to take junior up and then complain about lack of playing time, 2. Coaches have no idea who a player is and finds out from the JV coach at the end of the season that JR should be playing up and they move him up, 3.JR earns his way up to varsity, understands that play8ng time is earned and works his way on to the field.

3 is the best option, but it may be too late

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

Booster club is hand picked by the head coaches? Why do they pick the one guy everyone can't stand ?

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

Do you work out with the varsity last summer and this winter? Does the coach even know who your kid is? The best way is to have your son approach the coach and mention his interest. I have seen this go three ways. 1. Parent pushes coaches to take junior up and then complain about lack of playing time, 2. Coaches have no idea who a player is and finds out from the JV coach at the end of the season that JR should be playing up and they move him up, 3.JR earns his way up to varsity, understands that play8ng time is earned and works his way on to the field.

3 is the best option, but it may be too late

The fact that you saw this as a serious question AND answered it rather than appreciate it for the rightful mocking and sarcasm that it was is kind of sad . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It has everything to do with the parents, either willingness (and means) to further their child's skill. The parents familiarity with the sport; either they played or are from a town that played. And yes a big one is the youth coach that played and wanted to get his son involved since he had a lax stick in the crib.

Funny many of the kids who are good, can all be traced to one of these if not more of the above. In my town, many of better player parents migrated from a town with a big tradition. Couple that with coaches that they themselves played at the next level. Its not everything, but it definitely helps.

I will say this, lacrosse in our day (although a great sport) did take a back seat to Baseball. I think that evolution happened slowly since us parents were in HS, but then again what hasn't eveolved.

I think the Mecca of Long Island lacrosse is closing in from Midwest and West. Just wait until pac12 college starts getting teams Long Island and Maryland will be not the Mecca.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question. There seems to always be the same teams at the top year after year while other programs continue to struggle. Schools with the same or similar student body size can't compete. In your opinion what makes these schools so consistently successful? Is it the coaching? Is it the system they run? Is it the town/PAL program or the local travel clubs? Are some towns just more "lacrosse towns" or have more kids play from a young age? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Hard to figure out. But I can say towns with $$$$ seem to be very good . More money , more clinics , more private lessons etc.. look at a district like Sachem very big they won 1 or 2 state championships in the 90’s when it was 1 HS . There youth program is very good. Sachem north always in the playoffs but never get over that hump. People say they have 2 Hs so not getting the best , but the argument with that is look at smithowns and Hills also 2 Hs. I think money towns are very good . smithtowns, syosset , Wm , CSH , GC , Mahasset etc. garden city Wm you also have generations that stay and live there. JMO

Yet GC dominates in football as well. So how do you figure that? Not exactly clinics etc for that. The real reason is the kids play in a system that is built to win games as a team, not individual glory like so many others. GC also won the County in basketball. The girls field hockey and lacrosse teams also win on a consistent basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the best way to get my underclassman son and his friends on varsity? Was thinking taking over booster club and then replacing coach with one of our club coaches. Thoughts?

Do you work out with the varsity last summer and this winter? Does the coach even know who your kid is? The best way is to have your son approach the coach and mention his interest. I have seen this go three ways. 1. Parent pushes coaches to take junior up and then complain about lack of playing time, 2. Coaches have no idea who a player is and finds out from the JV coach at the end of the season that JR should be playing up and they move him up, 3.JR earns his way up to varsity, understands that play8ng time is earned and works his way on to the field.

3 is the best option, but it may be too late

The fact that you saw this as a serious question AND answered it rather than appreciate it for the rightful mocking and sarcasm that it was is kind of sad . . .

Actually, it is what happens when you read this on your phone and didn't pick up the second sentence when reading it. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

If you don’t think Pequa coaches have some concerns after Saturday you have no clue about spirts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

If you don’t think Pequa coaches have some concerns after Saturday you have no clue about spirts.

Ok so rate the six teams you saw on Saturday. Who dominated Pequa ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

If you don’t think Pequa coaches have some concerns after Saturday you have no clue about spirts.

Ok so rate the six teams you saw on Saturday. Who dominated Pequa ?

Agreed I have no clue about spirts! So, since you were there watching why don’t you tell us A) what teams played B) what was the score? C) why are you hanging around Massapequa high school on a Saturday freezing Saturday morning? D) where is your family that they don’t want/need you around? E) Are you a loser or a [ChillLaxin]?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

If you don’t think Pequa coaches have some concerns after Saturday you have no clue about spirts.

Ok so rate the six teams you saw on Saturday. Who dominated Pequa ?

Both teams looked better then Pequa, no big deal first game playing together. They will get better.

No one dominated the Chiefs.
Pequa not as dominant as many may have expected
WI-probably a little more competitive than many would've expected
CSH about as expected.

All games subbing was liberal. Certainly wouldn't base any rankings on outcome of the scrimmages. All games were close whether measured by starters vs starters or final outcome. All teams will be competitive, none looked top 10 in the nation worthy...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PEQUA not as great as they think

Basing this on what? A Saturday double scrimmage on St Paddy’s day? What a hammerhead, your kid must cringe at the site of you hanging around random high schools watching young men play lacrosse Just Weird

If you don’t think Pequa coaches have some concerns after Saturday you have no clue about spirts.

Ok so rate the six teams you saw on Saturday. Who dominated Pequa ?

Both teams looked better then Pequa, no big deal first game playing together. They will get better.

Okay so what school did your kid play for WI or CSH?

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

how much influence does booster prez have in getting his kids on the field?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

How about Sayville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how much influence does booster prez have in getting his kids on the field?

Do they play for Igloo??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Early prediction is that Syo goes 0-5 in out of conference play this year before starting their cupcake league schedule (until Pequa on 5/9).

GC on top 11-2 over Syo after Q3 yesterday- a total beat down.

https://vimeo.com/261150900

Sayville played Northport yesterday in a non-league game and lost 11-5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

How about Sayville?

Igloo has power in Syosset!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has power in Syosset!!!!

That dude from Igloo is ruining Syosset lax, and Calabria is "buying" right in. The Igloo kids don't belong on the field. But man, that club lax coaches check sure feels good. Loooong season for the Braves.

Sadly you are right!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Igloo has power in Syosset!!!!

That dude from Igloo is ruining Syosset lax, and Calabria is "buying" right in. The Igloo kids don't belong on the field. But man, that club lax coaches check sure feels good. Loooong season for the Braves.

So true but sad!!!!

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

How about Sayville?

What about WI

[quote=Anonymous]Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

yeah it igloo support!!!

WI will be just fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

You are right...

They lost simply because they not good.

Too much attitude and too little skill. Not a combination that makes for a successful team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

What's wrong at SWR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s going to be a looong year for Syosset

Even longer for SWR

What's wrong at SWR

Nothing is wrong At SWR. They have 4 kids that will carrry them.

This snow will cancel all games on Friday and Saturday ...

I am a booster member and got to say it doesn't help with playing time. I even brush up against the coach sometimes to let him know I will give a handy, but sitll doesn't help. Only helps for the summer travel teams... son was on igloo and 91 - both will give playing time for let's say "favors"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://vimeo.com/261150900

OMG - GC stepped on the throat of SYO--

was GC just that dominant or was SYO just not a good squad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing is wrong At SWR. They have 4 kids that will carrry them.

Haha, good luck w that game plan. Pretty optimistic (or delusional)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a booster member and got to say it doesn't help with playing time. I even brush up against the coach sometimes to let him know I will give a handy, but sitll doesn't help. Only helps for the summer travel teams... son was on igloo and 91 - both will give playing time for let's say "favors"

You gave JS a handy?? WOW

"handy". Really admin????? you will allow that and not the mention of certain club programs???? Check yourself...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing is wrong At SWR. They have 4 kids that will carrry them.

Let me guess...one of them is your overrated son? Bahhaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has power in Syosset!!!!

That dude from Igloo is ruining Syosset lax, and Calabria is "buying" right in. The Igloo kids don't belong on the field. But man, that club lax coaches check sure feels good. Loooong season for the Braves.

Make SYO great again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing is wrong At SWR. They have 4 kids that will carrry them.

Haha, good luck w that game plan. Pretty optimistic (or delusional)

How'd it work out against 'Quot?

Game plan worked pretty well for SWR last year and they were only 9th graders plus a stud sr. Keep checking Newsday and watch as they rack up the wins... Islip i would assume is 1 and swr 2 Babylon certainly isn't a threat this year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Hahaha, ok right. Just stop. There aren't any freshman that should be playing, they are only considered because of daddy and the Igloo connection. Bottom line, other than a couple of senior attack and a junior middie, this team just isn't very good. And the Igloo connection and favors are only going to make it worse. It's not working and the hey day of SYO lax will be done in two years because that's when the Igloo connection and favors really take hold. Lean years ahead for a once quality program, ruined by greed and favors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game plan worked pretty well for SWR last year and they were only 9th graders plus a stud sr. Keep checking Newsday and watch as they rack up the wins... Islip i would assume is 1 and swr 2 Babylon certainly isn't a threat this year...

Glad to hear that you're not worried about Babylon. You should, however, be concerned about more than just Islip. Suffolk B is a tough Div week in and week out. Mt. Sinai, BBP, Harborfields, Miller Pl, Hills West & ESM will field strong teams that just might get in the way of your win "rack-up". In any event, good luck. Sounds like you may need it this year.

Any games cancelled for the weekend yet?

Good luck to the rest of suffolk b/c, you've been chasing the SWR tail lights for the last two decades. They have a few real studs to build around and are the hunted until you knock them off. Fact. Adn it will be good win you will celebrate, as you should, if you get it. Play the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game plan worked pretty well for SWR last year and they were only 9th graders plus a stud sr. Keep checking Newsday and watch as they rack up the wins... Islip i would assume is 1 and swr 2 Babylon certainly isn't a threat this year...

Ill give you 2 Soph Studs. Coach isn't Rotantz or what you think he is. IMHO, ESM 4/11 and Harborfields 5/5 will have their way with SWR. 2/3 easy games, the rest could go either way. Could be wrong wouldn't be the first time.

How was the scrimmage against Connetiquott?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Hahaha, ok right. Just stop. There aren't any freshman that should be playing, they are only considered because of daddy and the Igloo connection. Bottom line, other than a couple of senior attack and a junior middie, this team just isn't very good. And the Igloo connection and favors are only going to make it worse. It's not working and the hey day of SYO lax will be done in two years because that's when the Igloo connection and favors really take hold. Lean years ahead for a once quality program, ruined by greed and favors.

You can play the blame game or recognize that Syosset much like Hicksville, East Meadow and even Farmingdale to a lesser extent have fallen off due to the influx of various non traditional lax races of people. The demographics in the high school all the way down to the youth program has dramatically been altered and although I agree it's hard for a Frosh to compete at the Varsity level it does help to give the younger guys some quality minutes. It is a tough balancing act and playing a Frosh over an upper classmate does have some advantages especially if you see the team is mediocre, perhaps the younger guy can be better by the end of the season where a kid who is older may be a little bigger or stronger and has already maxed out and really isn't much better. As a coach of a competitive program are you playing the younger guy with hopes he develops or the Senior who isn't really good but he is a senior and has rode the bench for the last two years.

The biggest reason kids that are in 9th and 10th graders are playing over 11th and 12th graders is simply because they are better lacrosse players. This is a trend everywhere on Long Island. The biggest thing to keep in mind is its not the 11th and 12th graders fault or their parents or the coaches for that matter. The 2020 class was the first real crazy travel lacrosse year. This is the year of The Crush team and 1 or 2 other teams that played year round at a high level against the best competition they could find since they were in 3rd / 4th grade. The 2021 is the same only there are even more kids that have done this..2022 will be no different.Now they show up in High School and are competing for spots against boys ,that thru no fault of their own , only play during the traditional lacrosse season or maybe for their town teams. Anyone that knows the game can watch 1 practice, scrimmage or game and see a mile away which kids have played year round at a high level and which have not. The stick skills and lacrosse IQ of the travel kids is off the charts compared to the boys that haven't played year round since they were 8 years old.Before that statement in particular gets picked apart, I clearly understand that there are plenty of exceptional 11th/12th graders out there who would run some 9th/10th graders off the field. I feel for the older kids but the game has evolved quickly. So if a 9th/10th grader is physically capable...what is a coach to do? I always think basketball...a superior athlete that doesn't know the game of basketball can be made to look bad by a lesser athlete that knows how to play the game.

ESM? HAHA They are horrible this year SWR will beat them by double digits!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Hahaha, ok right. Just stop. There aren't any freshman that should be playing, they are only considered because of daddy and the Igloo connection. Bottom line, other than a couple of senior attack and a junior middie, this team just isn't very good. And the Igloo connection and favors are only going to make it worse. It's not working and the hey day of SYO lax will be done in two years because that's when the Igloo connection and favors really take hold. Lean years ahead for a once quality program, ruined by greed and favors.

...and a mediocre coaching staff. Can't compete with the level of coaching at Pequa.

JC should just hang it up and focus on the Travel Team money train. Unfortunately, Syo AD is also very weak. The program will never come back.

Your right, not enough native Americans in those schools.

I am not from SWR and don't have any relation on the team but they do have a few verified studs. I do not know how the Quot scrimmage went, but that would be kind of irrelevant to their league play anyway. You are right, B/C will be interesting and there are at least 5 real good teams. As I said before though, SWR till proven otherwise. Hoping for a Huntington turn around, but will be more difficult up in A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Hahaha, ok right. Just stop. There aren't any freshman that should be playing, they are only considered because of daddy and the Igloo connection. Bottom line, other than a couple of senior attack and a junior middie, this team just isn't very good. And the Igloo connection and favors are only going to make it worse. It's not working and the hey day of SYO lax will be done in two years because that's when the Igloo connection and favors really take hold. Lean years ahead for a once quality program, ruined by greed and favors.

You can play the blame game or recognize that Syosset much like Hicksville, East Meadow and even Farmingdale to a lesser extent have fallen off due to the influx of various non traditional lax races of people. The demographics in the high school all the way down to the youth program has dramatically been altered and although I agree it's hard for a Frosh to compete at the Varsity level it does help to give the younger guys some quality minutes. It is a tough balancing act and playing a Frosh over an upper classmate does have some advantages especially if you see the team is mediocre, perhaps the younger guy can be better by the end of the season where a kid who is older may be a little bigger or stronger and has already maxed out and really isn't much better. As a coach of a competitive program are you playing the younger guy with hopes he develops or the Senior who isn't really good but he is a senior and has rode the bench for the last two years.

Having recently completed my doctorate in Sociology, My dissertation was on the socio-economic impact on sports in the transitional demographics of the Syosset Central school district and my conclusion was that Garden City is better than Syosset in lacrosse this year with little or no effect of the emerging Eskimo population in the district. or on the team

Good stuff. I like the doctorate conclusion. Grade A.

Rebuttal, But, But, what if, Freshman, wait till later in the season, it was cold, it was wet, its pre-holidays..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest reason kids that are in 9th and 10th graders are playing over 11th and 12th graders is simply because they are better lacrosse players. This is a trend everywhere on Long Island. The biggest thing to keep in mind is its not the 11th and 12th graders fault or their parents or the coaches for that matter. The 2020 class was the first real crazy travel lacrosse year. This is the year of The Crush team and 1 or 2 other teams that played year round at a high level against the best competition they could find since they were in 3rd / 4th grade. The 2021 is the same only there are even more kids that have done this..2022 will be no different.Now they show up in High School and are competing for spots against boys ,that thru no fault of their own , only play during the traditional lacrosse season or maybe for their town teams. Anyone that knows the game can watch 1 practice, scrimmage or game and see a mile away which kids have played year round at a high level and which have not. The stick skills and lacrosse IQ of the travel kids is off the charts compared to the boys that haven't played year round since they were 8 years old.Before that statement in particular gets picked apart, I clearly understand that there are plenty of exceptional 11th/12th graders out there who would run some 9th/10th graders off the field. I feel for the older kids but the game has evolved quickly. So if a 9th/10th grader is physically capable...what is a coach to do? I always think basketball...a superior athlete that doesn't know the game of basketball can be made to look bad by a lesser athlete that knows how to play the game.

Travel lacrosse, year round lacrosse did not start with the 2020 class - the 2011 U15 national championship game (Class of 2014) saw fl$ beat LI Express and in 2012 (class of 2015) 4 of the top 8 teams were from LI and LI Express won the national championships the amount of LI kids starring in college from the HS class of 2014,2015 and 2016 is tremendous. This is not to take away from the 2020's but they are not the "Inventors" of year round travel lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest reason kids that are in 9th and 10th graders are playing over 11th and 12th graders is simply because they are better lacrosse players. This is a trend everywhere on Long Island. The biggest thing to keep in mind is its not the 11th and 12th graders fault or their parents or the coaches for that matter. The 2020 class was the first real crazy travel lacrosse year. This is the year of The Crush team and 1 or 2 other teams that played year round at a high level against the best competition they could find since they were in 3rd / 4th grade. The 2021 is the same only there are even more kids that have done this..2022 will be no different.Now they show up in High School and are competing for spots against boys ,that thru no fault of their own , only play during the traditional lacrosse season or maybe for their town teams. Anyone that knows the game can watch 1 practice, scrimmage or game and see a mile away which kids have played year round at a high level and which have not. The stick skills and lacrosse IQ of the travel kids is off the charts compared to the boys that haven't played year round since they were 8 years old.Before that statement in particular gets picked apart, I clearly understand that there are plenty of exceptional 11th/12th graders out there who would run some 9th/10th graders off the field. I feel for the older kids but the game has evolved quickly. So if a 9th/10th grader is physically capable...what is a coach to do? I always think basketball...a superior athlete that doesn't know the game of basketball can be made to look bad by a lesser athlete that knows how to play the game.

Travel lacrosse, year round lacrosse did not start with the 2020 class - the 2011 U15 national championship game (Class of 2014) saw fl$ beat LI Express and in 2012 (class of 2015) 4 of the top 8 teams were from LI and LI Express won the national championships the amount of LI kids starring in college from the HS class of 2014,2015 and 2016 is tremendous. This is not to take away from the 2020's but they are not the "Inventors" of year round travel lacrosse

I can't get in the original poster's head, but what I think he really means is that the idea of year round play has increased to the point that the 2020 class may have had enough volume of kids participating in that the overall situation reached a tipping point - that class has so many kids playing year round and on enough high level clubs that the sheer numbers elevate everything about them and the numbers of really good players resulting from that has increased.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The 2020 class was the first real crazy travel lacrosse year. This is the year of The Crush team and 1 or 2 other teams that played year round at a high level against the best competition they could find since they were in 3rd / 4th grade.

I can't get in the original poster's head, but what I think he really means is that the idea of year round play has increased to the point that the 2020 class may have had enough volume of kids participating in that the overall situation reached a tipping point - that class has so many kids playing year round and on enough high level clubs that the sheer numbers elevate everything about them and the numbers of really good players resulting from that has increased.

I am not getting in his head, I am just reading his quote and I think that perhaps he is familiar with the class of 2020 and not as familiar with the classes of 2014 - 2018 these kids all went to Baltimore 4-5 times a year in the spring - summer and fall and they all have had plenty of year round opportunities to compete against the best competition. I personally would take the talent pool of the Class of 2015 over any grade in the last ten years or the next four years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not from SWR and don't have any relation on the team but they do have a few verified studs. I do not know how the Quot scrimmage went, but that would be kind of irrelevant to their league play anyway. You are right, B/C will be interesting and there are at least 5 real good teams. As I said before though, SWR till proven otherwise. Hoping for a Huntington turn around, but will be more difficult up in A.

Id love to know, didnt Quot just play Islip to OT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great team support. A loss and you immediately start pointing fingers at people who are all trying to win. What cry babies. If your son is passed over for a freshman who is better, deal with it. That's not the reason they lost.

Hahaha, ok right. Just stop. There aren't any freshman that should be playing, they are only considered because of daddy and the Igloo connection. Bottom line, other than a couple of senior attack and a junior middie, this team just isn't very good. And the Igloo connection and favors are only going to make it worse. It's not working and the hey day of SYO lax will be done in two years because that's when the Igloo connection and favors really take hold. Lean years ahead for a once quality program, ruined by greed and favors.

You can play the blame game or recognize that Syosset much like Hicksville, East Meadow and even Farmingdale to a lesser extent have fallen off due to the influx of various non traditional lax races of people. The demographics in the high school all the way down to the youth program has dramatically been altered and although I agree it's hard for a Frosh to compete at the Varsity level it does help to give the younger guys some quality minutes. It is a tough balancing act and playing a Frosh over an upper classmate does have some advantages especially if you see the team is mediocre, perhaps the younger guy can be better by the end of the season where a kid who is older may be a little bigger or stronger and has already maxed out and really isn't much better. As a coach of a competitive program are you playing the younger guy with hopes he develops or the Senior who isn't really good but he is a senior and has rode the bench for the last two years.

Having recently completed my doctorate in Sociology, My dissertation was on the socio-economic impact on sports in the transitional demographics of the Syosset Central school district and my conclusion was that Garden City is better than Syosset in lacrosse this year with little or no effect of the emerging Eskimo population in the district. or on the team

No question GC was the better team that day and to my point about the demographic change in Syosset there is a direct correlation to the downhill spiral of their football program. The 2015 LI Championships in both Football and Lacrosse were not coincidental. The peppering of football players and the lax rats are the perfect recipe for a successful High School lacrosse program which leads right back to the demographic explanation. The recent influx of families in Syosset are more likely to pick up a string instrument over a pigskin. Good luck to both schools the rest of the season.

St. Anthonys and WM just scrimmaged to a 6-6 draw. Both teams looked a little rusty. St. Anthony's won easy over GC last week. Chaminade will be the best team on LI this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthonys and WM just scrimmaged to a 6-6 draw. Both teams looked a little rusty. St. Anthony's won easy over GC last week. Chaminade will be the best team on LI this year.

Well thanks for that info , Chaminade will save Long Island lax. I am nauseous at the though.

Does Seaford have a shot this year?

Smithtown west BIG over GC

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthonys and WM just scrimmaged to a 6-6 draw. Both teams looked a little rusty. St. Anthony's won easy over GC last week. Chaminade will be the best team on LI this year.

Well thanks for that info , Chaminade will save Long Island lax. I am nauseous at the though.

They just easily beat McDonough

yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does Seaford have a shot this year?

Every year!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

Fake news. Why the GC hate? Jealous?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

Fake news. Why the GC hate? Jealous?

Feb 3 1995 someone do the math

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The biggest reason kids that are in 9th and 10th graders are playing over 11th and 12th graders is simply because they are better lacrosse players. This is a trend everywhere on Long Island. The biggest thing to keep in mind is its not the 11th and 12th graders fault or their parents or the coaches for that matter. The 2020 class was the first real crazy travel lacrosse year. This is the year of The Crush team and 1 or 2 other teams that played year round at a high level against the best competition they could find since they were in 3rd / 4th grade. The 2021 is the same only there are even more kids that have done this..2022 will be no different.Now they show up in High School and are competing for spots against boys ,that thru no fault of their own , only play during the traditional lacrosse season or maybe for their town teams. Anyone that knows the game can watch 1 practice, scrimmage or game and see a mile away which kids have played year round at a high level and which have not. The stick skills and lacrosse IQ of the travel kids is off the charts compared to the boys that haven't played year round since they were 8 years old.Before that statement in particular gets picked apart, I clearly understand that there are plenty of exceptional 11th/12th graders out there who would run some 9th/10th graders off the field. I feel for the older kids but the game has evolved quickly. So if a 9th/10th grader is physically capable...what is a coach to do? I always think basketball...a superior athlete that doesn't know the game of basketball can be made to look bad by a lesser athlete that knows how to play the game.

Travel lacrosse, year round lacrosse did not start with the 2020 class - the 2011 U15 national championship game (Class of 2014) saw fl$ beat LI Express and in 2012 (class of 2015) 4 of the top 8 teams were from LI and LI Express won the national championships the amount of LI kids starring in college from the HS class of 2014,2015 and 2016 is tremendous. This is not to take away from the 2020's but they are not the "Inventors" of year round travel lacrosse

I think he meant the 2020's was the first class where you saw that amount of talent throughout the entire mid atlantic and northeast. 2020 Class is very strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

Fake news. Why the GC hate? Jealous?

Don't think that is the GC way however GC diffidently is over rated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Rob Pannell of Smithtown did a PG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Ok so maybe my math isn't that great but is a kid is born in 2000 and their birthday is in any time before mid May when most graduations occur wouldn't that make them 22. Also if a kid was born in November or December of 1999 they also could be in the same class as a 2000 birthdate player and a redshirt and they are 23 in their senior year.

Look at the kid at Albany from IMG Academy he was 20 in 2016 according to his NCSA profile.

[img]http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-lacr...ge-catholic-high-school/tehoka-nanticoke[/img]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Ok so maybe my math isn't that great but is a kid is born in 2000 and their birthday is in any time before mid May when most graduations occur wouldn't that make them 22. Also if a kid was born in November or December of 1999 they also could be in the same class as a 2000 birthdate player and a redshirt and they are 23 in their senior year.

Look at the kid at Albany from IMG Academy he was 20 in 2016 according to his NCSA profile.

[img]http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-lacr...ge-catholic-high-school/tehoka-nanticoke[/img]

So that would make him 21 or 22 year old freshman and he would be 25 or 26 as a senior. Now thats a bit ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Ok so maybe my math isn't that great but is a kid is born in 2000 and their birthday is in any time before mid May when most graduations occur wouldn't that make them 22. Also if a kid was born in November or December of 1999 they also could be in the same class as a 2000 birthdate player and a redshirt and they are 23 in their senior year.

Look at the kid at Albany from IMG Academy he was 20 in 2016 according to his NCSA profile.

[img]http://www.ncsasports.org/mens-lacr...ge-catholic-high-school/tehoka-nanticoke[/img]

So that would make him 21 or 22 year old freshman and he would be 25 or 26 as a senior. Now thats a bit ridiculous.

Why do u think he went to IMG Academy... he was too old to play HS sports in NYS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

I’ll translate: GC spanked my kids team, my son was embarrassed, those boys have to be holdbacks!

my kid is tearing it up on his club team, if he had just PG'd I am sure he would be starting at Duke and we never would have heard of Guterding. It is just not fair

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown west BIG over GC

Can’t find the score anywhere? What was the final? Surprised Mewsday didn’t cover the game at all? Can you post the link to the news story please. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown west BIG over GC

Can’t find the score anywhere? What was the final? Surprised Mewsday didn’t cover the game at all? Can you post the link to the news story please. Thanks

Its a bit harder to find scores than in the past, if you are going to old favorites but its there.

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool (Save this to your favorites)

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/game/lacrosse-boys/5069

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown west BIG over GC

Can’t find the score anywhere? What was the final? Surprised Mewsday didn’t cover the game at all? Can you post the link to the news story please. Thanks

It is on Newsday
https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/team/lacrosse-boys/garden-city/2018

How does one get to be a PG player. is it the same as College recruiting. They see you and think you can elevate their team. here is the issue i have, The top players are recruited so is this best for the second tier or those who have that 6'2" dad but is still 5'8" and have skill.

Does Rob Pannell or guys like Gutterding give advice on this. Again, Lacrosse isnt a pro sport but it is a gateway to a better college. If being a an older player means better player. So be it, it is a means to a better future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does one get to be a PG player. is it the same as College recruiting. They see you and think you can elevate their team. here is the issue i have, The top players are recruited so is this best for the second tier or those who have that 6'2" dad but is still 5'8" and have skill.

Does Rob Pannell or guys like Gutterding give advice on this. Again, Lacrosse isnt a pro sport but it is a gateway to a better college. If being a an older player means better player. So be it, it is a means to a better future.

Most kids that do a PG year after HS are already committed to a college and they are PG'ing either to mature physically for another year or maybe to get their grades up to get into the school, Pannell had signed his NLI so he decided to PG and switch commitments. When going through the recruiting process a lot of colleges will ask the recruit if he would consider PG'ing a year. similar to Army and Navy sending so many kids to prep. I know of a few kids that were told "our 2017 class is full at your position but if you PG we will commit to you in our 2019 class"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown west BIG over GC

Can’t find the score anywhere? What was the final? Surprised Mewsday didn’t cover the game at all? Can you post the link to the news story please. Thanks

Its a bit harder to find scores than in the past, if you are going to old favorites but its there.

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool (Save this to your favorites)

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/game/lacrosse-boys/5069

GC squashes the press for all its bad games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Gutterding was a early hold back and did a PG year. 23 year old senior...the GC way

you sure about your take on that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

an "on age" kid Born Feb. 3, 1995 would graduate HS at 18 and college at 22 - if he red shirts or pg's he would graduate at 23. so he PG'd out of HS but was not an early hold back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

You sure there isn't a big difference between 19 and 22 year old. Google Giannis Antetokounmpo or "Greek Freak" and then take a look at some pictures when he was recruited at 18 years old vs. now when he is 23 years old. I know this is the NBA but you don't get too many before/after pictures of lacrosse players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

I have to disagree with that. A 18 year old College freshman has a huge disadvantage in experience, and physical maturity over a 21 year old freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

You sure there isn't a big difference between 19 and 22 year old. Google Giannis Antetokounmpo or "Greek Freak" and then take a look at some pictures when he was recruited at 18 years old vs. now when he is 23 years old. I know this is the NBA but you don't get too many before/after pictures of lacrosse players.

Huge difference between between freshman & senior. PG is a huge help. Make (Trained Athletes) hit their peak around 28 years of age.
Kindergarten hold back, 8th grade reclass, PG, redshirt... All give the player an advantage on the field, in the classroom and socially as well. None of this is new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

I have to disagree with that. A 18 year old College freshman has a huge disadvantage in experience, and physical maturity over a 21 year old freshman.

ok to disagree...but I did not say experience nor did I say 18 - I said 19yr.

maybe I should have been more clear .... Probably not a huge physical difference between college soph and a college Junior/senior.

experience is another topic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many LI kids even go to Prep schools or take PG years? If they are recruiting don't the kids have to be good...

Don’t know the numbers but can think of 2 studs .... Kavanagh did a pg before NotreDame and Gutterding did a pg before Duke..
Obvious quality recruits.

Yes, both excellent players but gain an edge physically playing as seniors at age 22-23. This has been going on for decades not a new phenomenon also not against any rules .

Let's be real... the advantage is not gained at 22 physically - it's more academic maturity.
Probably not a huge physical difference between your 19yr old self and your 22yr old self.

Rather the really significant PHYSICAL advantage goes the the 15 yr old holdback playing against 13-14 year olds. Its more likely that the hold back has the advantage of puberty on his side while many 13-14 yr olds might be just starting to hit puberty.

You sure there isn't a big difference between 19 and 22 year old. Google Giannis Antetokounmpo or "Greek Freak" and then take a look at some pictures when he was recruited at 18 years old vs. now when he is 23 years old. I know this is the NBA but you don't get too many before/after pictures of lacrosse players.

Huge difference between between freshman & senior. PG is a huge help. Make (Trained Athletes) hit their peak around 28 years of age.
Kindergarten hold back, 8th grade reclass, PG, redshirt... All give the player an advantage on the field, in the classroom and socially as well. None of this is new.

now that is being real!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does one get to be a PG player. is it the same as College recruiting. They see you and think you can elevate their team. here is the issue i have, The top players are recruited so is this best for the second tier or those who have that 6'2" dad but is still 5'8" and have skill.

Does Rob Pannell or guys like Gutterding give advice on this. Again, Lacrosse isnt a pro sport but it is a gateway to a better college. If being a an older player means better player. So be it, it is a means to a better future.

Most kids that do a PG year after HS are already committed to a college and they are PG'ing either to mature physically for another year or maybe to get their grades up to get into the school, Pannell had signed his NLI so he decided to PG and switch commitments. When going through the recruiting process a lot of colleges will ask the recruit if he would consider PG'ing a year. similar to Army and Navy sending so many kids to prep. I know of a few kids that were told "our 2017 class is full at your position but if you PG we will commit to you in our 2019 class"

Do you pay for NAPS/MAPS? Do you still get appointed to the prep school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does one get to be a PG player. is it the same as College recruiting. They see you and think you can elevate their team. here is the issue i have, The top players are recruited so is this best for the second tier or those who have that 6'2" dad but is still 5'8" and have skill.

Does Rob Pannell or guys like Gutterding give advice on this. Again, Lacrosse isnt a pro sport but it is a gateway to a better college. If being a an older player means better player. So be it, it is a means to a better future.

Most kids that do a PG year after HS are already committed to a college and they are PG'ing either to mature physically for another year or maybe to get their grades up to get into the school, Pannell had signed his NLI so he decided to PG and switch commitments. When going through the recruiting process a lot of colleges will ask the recruit if he would consider PG'ing a year. similar to Army and Navy sending so many kids to prep. I know of a few kids that were told "our 2017 class is full at your position but if you PG we will commit to you in our 2019 class"

Do you pay for NAPS/MAPS? Do you still get appointed to the prep school?

You do not pay for the academy prep schools. The coaches do not have too much room to wiggle on which recruits go prep and which recruits go directly to the academy. Where the player falls academically (GPA, SAT, ACT) will determine which route the player goes. A player with 95 average and 1250 SAT is not going to prep. The Coaches would like every player to do a prep year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does one get to be a PG player. is it the same as College recruiting. They see you and think you can elevate their team. here is the issue i have, The top players are recruited so is this best for the second tier or those who have that 6'2" dad but is still 5'8" and have skill.

Does Rob Pannell or guys like Gutterding give advice on this. Again, Lacrosse isnt a pro sport but it is a gateway to a better college. If being a an older player means better player. So be it, it is a means to a better future.

Most kids that do a PG year after HS are already committed to a college and they are PG'ing either to mature physically for another year or maybe to get their grades up to get into the school, Pannell had signed his NLI so he decided to PG and switch commitments. When going through the recruiting process a lot of colleges will ask the recruit if he would consider PG'ing a year. similar to Army and Navy sending so many kids to prep. I know of a few kids that were told "our 2017 class is full at your position but if you PG we will commit to you in our 2019 class"

Do you pay for NAPS/MAPS? Do you still get appointed to the prep school?

Please lets not equate MAPS/NAPS with a PG year. MAPS/NAPS have a whole military piece to their schedule, including their summer, that a PG kid going to IMG etc does not have to do. IMG etc you pay your $60K and go to make believe school. MAPS/NAPS prepares them for the academies for USMA and USNA.

Anyone have a final score of WI vs dalers

10-6 Fdale from Saturday.

Yeah Dalers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

an "on age" kid Born Feb. 3, 1995 would graduate HS at 18 and college at 22 - if he red shirts or pg's he would graduate at 23. so he PG'd out of HS but was not an early hold back

Agreed! That's exactly how it worked.

Originally Posted by THOMASJOHN

10-6 Fdale from Saturday.

Didn't they play yesterday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by THOMASJOHN

10-6 Fdale from Saturday.

Didn't they play yesterday?

game was yesterday

Is MGS Varsity still covering HS Laxcrosse , went on here website everything is from 2017 . Any other sites that update scores and the box score of the HS GAMES ??

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is MGS Varsity still covering HS Laxcrosse , went on here website everything is from 2017 . Any other sites that update scores and the box score of the HS GAMES ??

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/scores/lacrosse-boys/nassau

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/scores/lacrosse-boys/suffolk

www.news12varsity.com

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

best advice for an undersized year round lefty that plays year round for club and box....if you could do it all over with your son.

i would encourage him to shoot and play PAL... there is a big demand for lefties. #DukeBound

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best advice for an undersized year round lefty that plays year round for club and box....if you could do it all over with your son.

soocer - ice hockey - basketball and box lacrosse - limit field lacrosse as much as you can get away with

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best advice for an undersized year round lefty that plays year round for club and box....if you could do it all over with your son.

soocer - ice hockey - basketball and box lacrosse - limit field lacrosse as much as you can get away with

Undersized now or will always be undersized? If the objective is to play in college (not saying scholarship) then don't lose sleep on him being undersized for another couple years. With the new rule, you have plenty of time starting in 9th grade and, more realistically, 10th grade to get him exposed to college coaches. For the time being have him do what he is doing. As the previous poster stated, it doesn't hurt to have him play other sports if he is not already. College coaches like that. Most important since the kids in 7th grade. tell him good grades are as important as good lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best advice for an undersized year round lefty that plays year round for club and box....if you could do it all over with your son.

soocer - ice hockey - basketball and box lacrosse - limit field lacrosse as much as you can get away with

Undersized now or will always be undersized? If the objective is to play in college (not saying scholarship) then don't lose sleep on him being undersized for another couple years. With the new rule, you have plenty of time starting in 9th grade and, more realistically, 10th grade to get him exposed to college coaches. For the time being have him do what he is doing. As the previous poster stated, it doesn't hurt to have him play other sports if he is not already. College coaches like that. Most important since the kids in 7th grade. tell him good grades are as important as good lacrosse.

Well said. Multiple sports, good grades, and hit the lax wall. There are plenty of smaller guys playing D1. Speed is just as important as size in Lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

All-American over Vineyard Vines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

All-American over Vineyard Vines

All-American any day of the week!

Another good game today, St. Anthony's vs Yorktown:
Yorktown isn't as good as years past, and this might be the last year they have a decent team. John Jay is the Sect 1 team this year. If St. Anthony's doesn't win by 10 I'd be surprised. Don't read into the win if it isn't by 10 or more. John J didn't read into the win over Smithtown East and has moved on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

12-3 Port

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

All-American over Vineyard Vines

Herion vs Dom perignon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

All-American over Vineyard Vines

Herion vs Dom perignon

This should be removed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

12-3 Port

Locust Valley goalie kept them in the game. LV goalie is real deal. Refs stunk. LV is a young team and will rebuild.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Manhasset. Range Rovers over Monte's.

All-American over Vineyard Vines

Herion vs Dom perignon

This should be removed

The stunad can't even spell it. Lol.

So Yorktown doubled St Ants 10-5....you must be very surprised than from a Town team that "isn't as good as in years past".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

best advice for an undersized year round lefty that plays year round for club and box....if you could do it all over with your son.

soocer - ice hockey - basketball and box lacrosse - limit field lacrosse as much as you can get away with

Undersized now or will always be undersized? If the objective is to play in college (not saying scholarship) then don't lose sleep on him being undersized for another couple years. With the new rule, you have plenty of time starting in 9th grade and, more realistically, 10th grade to get him exposed to college coaches. For the time being have him do what he is doing. As the previous poster stated, it doesn't hurt to have him play other sports if he is not already. College coaches like that. Most important since the kids in 7th grade. tell him good grades are as important as good lacrosse.

Well said. Multiple sports, good grades, and hit the lax wall. There are plenty of smaller guys playing D1. Speed is just as important as size in Lax.

Speed, athleticism, IQ , skill, strength, attitude, motor etc.. all much more important than size. Not sure about the "early recruiting geniuses" but I know a few of the old school guys ask their assistants one question before they make an offer "Can he play?" Bottom line, they take all sizes if "they can play".

Good luck to your son. Work on strength which will improve speed. Develop skill and IQ. Hit the wall and shoot. Watch college games. Find a good strength coach or training facility that understands how to work with athletes not bodybuilders. When watching games have him watch the players that do not have the ball and the defenders who are not playing the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another good game today, St. Anthony's vs Yorktown:
Yorktown isn't as good as years past, and this might be the last year they have a decent team. John Jay is the Sect 1 team this year. If St. Anthony's doesn't win by 10 I'd be surprised. Don't read into the win if it isn't by 10 or more. John J didn't read into the win over Smithtown East and has moved on.

don't quite your day job. Yorktown wins 10-5. LI had a tough weekend up in section 1 went like 0-4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

What was the score in Massapequa vs Manhasset game. Not in Newsday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Yorktown doubled St Ants 10-5....you must be very surprised than from a Town team that "isn't as good as in years past".

What happened to all the CRUSH and Express "superstars"?? Big choke #overrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

What was the score in Massapequa vs Manhasset game. Not in Newsday

7-6 OT thriller! Great game. Pequa

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

WOW! and the tradition continues... another GC loss squashed in the newspaper.

but when they beat up on LB ---- let the trumpets sound!

what other teams/coaches play this game?

Why so surprised by Town beating St A??? Top two teams in class B reside in Westchester. Town and JJ.

Lack of knowledge of Section 1 being from LI. No disrespect meant, just surprised. Now I know. Victor and JD among other may have something to say about your claim as well...we'll see. Good luck. Oh, and Manhasset too...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

Is F Dale that good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

Is F Dale that good?

If you're giving credit to Farmingdale for a lopsided win over WI, how can you not be down on Farmingdale for close game with Carey?? F'Dale in line for 4th or 5th place finish in Conf A

Is Smithtown East the quasimoto or the cinderella of the Smithtowns? we'll find out today.

beat down cominng?

Carey is usually competitive, but yes, weighted F'dale's rather decisive victory over perennially strong WI program more.

F'dAle WILL BE 3rd or 4th in conference A. 99% confidence in that. More likely upside surprise than downside.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey is usually competitive, but yes, weighted F'dale's rather decisive victory over perennially strong WI program more.

F'dAle WILL BE 3rd or 4th in conference A. 99% confidence in that. More likely upside surprise than downside.

Maybe WI is still on the way down.

To quote a funny poster from Laxpower regarding last night's Massapequa vs. Manhasset tribal battle...

"Too many Chiefs, not enough Indians"

Good stuff.

LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

yep, missed on that one. Imagine if the goalie play wasn't as good as he is. Poor Port def must have been bored, 8 shots on goal! Gotta get 15-20 on cage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey is usually competitive, but yes, weighted F'dale's rather decisive victory over perennially strong WI program more.

F'dAle WILL BE 3rd or 4th in conference A. 99% confidence in that. More likely upside surprise than downside.

Maybe WI is still on the way down.

I guess we will see how each are when 'dalers play the chief's.

I know, I know it was just a scrimmage but you can still tell some things...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

MacArthur Ready to step up, bigtime

Any scores from today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

yep, missed on that one. Imagine if the goalie play wasn't as good as he is. Poor Port def must have been bored, 8 shots on goal! Gotta get 15-20 on cage.

LV is really down this year so Ports win isnt that impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

rocky pt team not very good. m.c. out shot r.p. by 30% and won more face offs. rp goalie play kept them from loosing!.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

12-3 Port

Locust Valley goalie kept them in the game. LV goalie is real deal. Refs stunk. LV is a young team and will rebuild.

LV's 2019, 2020, and 2021 classes are probably better stocked in terms of quality players.

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

Is there enough room in the book to record over 20 shots?

MacArthur??? Are u serious?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

2014. Started 0-2, went 13-7 and lost to Smithtown East in County Championship, beating Ward Melville and Smithtown West in playoffs. No need to panic yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

What was score against Connetquot ?

Wow Smithtown East did not look good at all. Total different team than the past super flat. Very young team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

2014. Started 0-2, went 13-7 and lost to Smithtown East in County Championship, beating Ward Melville and Smithtown West in playoffs. No need to panic yet.

SC not a miracle worker.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MacArthur??? Are u serious?

I did not even know MacArthur had a lacrosse team !

West over powered East not even close.

SW great team Def and very physical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW great team Def and very physical.

High IQ and young!

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

What is considered a good shooting percentage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

yep, missed on that one. Imagine if the goalie play wasn't as good as he is. Poor Port def must have been bored, 8 shots on goal! Gotta get 15-20 on cage.

LV is really down this year so Ports win isnt that impressive.

Here come the excuses for the LV loss.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

yep, missed on that one. Imagine if the goalie play wasn't as good as he is. Poor Port def must have been bored, 8 shots on goal! Gotta get 15-20 on cage.

LV is really down this year so Ports win isnt that impressive.

Here come the excuses for the LV loss.....

Don't use the "we are a young team" excuse. 7 of Ports 13 were scored by 2020 players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow Smithtown East did not look good at all. Total different team than the past super flat. Very young team.

Watched it on MSG. SE pathetic. More turn overs than you would see in a German bakery.

um didn't HHHE beat Northport??

Syosset going to put on a clinic today vs. CSH. They are young and soft. A>C

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

2014. Started 0-2, went 13-7 and lost to Smithtown East in County Championship, beating Ward Melville and Smithtown West in playoffs. No need to panic yet.

Changes are coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Also brand new coach at HHHE, so it is going to take some time for them to get comfortable with the new system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

rocky pt team not very good. m.c. out shot r.p. by 30% and won more face offs. rp goalie play kept them from loosing!.

It didn't seem like the RP goalies were saving much besides stuffs on the door step. They have a good offense, but the penalties are what kept RC in the game versus HHHW.

Give credit where it is due, not excuses. My son is on the Hills squad and our coach had nothing to do with it. We took 22 high percentage shots an the Northport kid stood on his head to keep them in the game. If not for that, it would have been a blow out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Also brand new coach at HHHE, so it is going to take some time for them to get comfortable with the new system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Also brand new coach at HHHE, so it is going to take some time for them to get comfortable with the new system.

I hope they dont get to comfortable until after we play them. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give credit where it is due, not excuses. My son is on the Hills squad and our coach had nothing to do with it. We took 22 high percentage shots an the Northport kid stood on his head to keep them in the game. If not for that, it would have been a blow out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Also brand new coach at HHHE, so it is going to take some time for them to get comfortable with the new system.

Great win, that loss wont hurt then as much.

But how do you beat the goalie in your estimates, where did the 7 come from, fast breaks, slow break, outside shots, screened shots (a lost art on kids these days)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time WI started the season 0-2?

2014. Started 0-2, went 13-7 and lost to Smithtown East in County Championship, beating Ward Melville and Smithtown West in playoffs. No need to panic yet.

Changes are coming.

Not this year !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

rocky pt team not very good. m.c. out shot r.p. by 30% and won more face offs. rp goalie play kept them from loosing!.

It didn't seem like the RP goalies were saving much besides stuffs on the door step. They have a good offense, but the penalties are what kept RC in the game versus HHHW.

rp goalies had 20 "stuffs on the door step" and you say it wasn't much? sure wasn't the defense stopping m.c.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

rocky pt team not very good. m.c. out shot r.p. by 30% and won more face offs. rp goalie play kept them from loosing!.

It didn't seem like the RP goalies were saving much besides stuffs on the door step. They have a good offense, but the penalties are what kept RC in the game versus HHHW.

rp goalies had 20 "stuffs on the door step" and you say it wasn't much? sure wasn't the defense stopping m.c.

In the HHHW game the goalie made 5 saves, and 3 of them were on the door step. The defense started out strong but weakened as the game went on. The game was tight from the begining, and when HHHW would get on a run, they would make a bone head penalty. The new players need to get caught up, HHHW graduated a lot of talent last year.

Saves - HHHW: Zakarachis 5, Coffey 3; RP: Kotarski 5;

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, based on early games lets look at how teams have performed relative to expectations:
Massapequa - not dominant
West Islip - lopsided loss to expected mediocre F'dale team
Smithtown E - bad occ loss
Locust Valley - rocked by medioce port team
GC - rocked by very good suffolk team and loss great MD team but spanked over rated syosset
St. A's - surprising loss
Sayville- spanked in opener

Manhasset + 0-2 but close games one of which against supposedly the best in nassau
Farmingdale + nice occ win
Port Washington + spanked lv
CSH+ was underdog against manhasset
Smithtown W + GC beat down
Chaminade + spanked strong MD team OCC
Rocky Point+ gave HHHW all tehy could handle

HHHW will be in many games like this. Young team, with a lot of heart. Penalties killed them and that kept Rocky Point in this game. Rocky Point fogo is really good, and HHHW did a great job of containing him. Will be an interesting season.

rocky pt team not very good. m.c. out shot r.p. by 30% and won more face offs. rp goalie play kept them from loosing!.

It didn't seem like the RP goalies were saving much besides stuffs on the door step. They have a good offense, but the penalties are what kept RC in the game versus HHHW.

rp goalies had 20 "stuffs on the door step" and you say it wasn't much? sure wasn't the defense stopping m.c.

In the HHHW game the goalie made 5 saves, and 3 of them were on the door step. The defense started out strong but weakened as the game went on. The game was tight from the begining, and when HHHW would get on a run, they would make a bone head penalty. The new players need to get caught up, HHHW graduated a lot of talent last year.

Saves - HHHW: Zakarachis 5, Coffey 3; RP: Kotarski 5;

How's the coach Hagan's? Heard he played at Hofstra.

Omg syosset11 csh 6????

CSH Syo score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH Syo score

https://twitter.com/lisportsnews/status/979520401624715264

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH Syo score

11-5 syo

11-5 Syosset.

I think the statement that they beat the goalie in this one is the wrong statement. It was hhhe 22 shots to Northports 10 first and foremost. The shots were a mixture of crease, 10 yards out and most were on the run across and down the alley. The shooters were all dropping there sticks which makes it incredibly difficult to pick up the shot.

In addition, it was tied with under a minute and npt had the ball coming off a time out and made the biggest mistake in sports. They could have held for the last shot and never even got one off. Winning goal was a fast break less than 10 yards out. So yes, a win is a win bu it could have easily been a different outcome.

That kid gave his team every chance to actually win the game and pull a huge upset and in this one, they let him down. So yeah, team sport, win as a team and lose a second a team, but that goalie did not get beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give credit where it is due, not excuses. My son is on the Hills squad and our coach had nothing to do with it. We took 22 high percentage shots an the Northport kid stood on his head to keep them in the game. If not for that, it would have been a blow out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hills east didn't lose the game. they won 7-6 with 10 seconds left. And the reason the game was that tight was because f the Northport goalie who had 15 saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does hhhe lose to northport with that team?!?!

Also brand new coach at HHHE, so it is going to take some time for them to get comfortable with the new system.

Great win, that loss wont hurt then as much.

But how do you beat the goalie in your estimates, where did the 7 come from, fast breaks, slow break, outside shots, screened shots (a lost art on kids these days)

Is St. A playing Delbarton now? Trying to get the livestream, but nothing is showing up??

That's because your a day early, lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 Syosset.

You never know which Syosset team is going to show up, the one that came for the CSH match was truly amazing to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two good games today

LV at Port - gotta take LV
Pequa vs Manh - gotta take Pequa

Um, WRONG and almost WRONG

obviously not your strong suit

yep, missed on that one. Imagine if the goalie play wasn't as good as he is. Poor Port def must have been bored, 8 shots on goal! Gotta get 15-20 on cage.

LV is really down this year so Ports win isnt that impressive.

Here come the excuses for the LV loss.....

Don't use the "we are a young team" excuse. 7 of Ports 13 were scored by 2020 players

Thanks for the breakout Visor Dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Wow Smithtown East did not look good at all. Total different team than the past super flat. Very young team.

Watched it on MSG. SE pathetic. More turn overs than you would see in a German bakery.[/quote

More than an insomniac on a bad mattress ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 Syosset.

You never know which Syosset team is going to show up, the one that came for the CSH match was truly amazing to watch.

So I guess Syo aint dead...

How's the coach Hagan's? Heard he played at Hofstra. [/quote]

He demands a lot from the team, and they work hard for him. Good for a young team like they have. Most of their best players are Juniors and sophomores.

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Then why don’t you step up then and take the coaching spot Mr. Lax. Loser

Big time., He is the antithesis of the girls coach. He doesn't give a darn about his players and on the recruiting front, he does absolutely nothing for anyone. Offers to make calls, even goes as far as asks the players for lists of schools they are interested in and states he will make the calls and never does anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

And he makes everyone play on his summer league team, what a prize

doesn't that happen with most high school teams? They play summer ball to get better as a team and be seen for recruiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And he makes everyone play on his summer league team, what a prize

Originally Posted by Anonymous

doesn't that happen with most high school teams? They play summer ball to get better as a team and be seen for recruiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And he makes everyone play on his summer league team, what a prize

No.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

doesn't that happen with most high school teams? They play summer ball to get better as a team and be seen for recruiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And he makes everyone play on his summer league team, what a prize

No.

Should,

Li team's should do 2-3 tournaments as a team.

Doesn't Ward Melville do a summer invitational.
Lax fest has the grade Nassau/Suffolk games and which also has HS games
One other out of town and that is perfect. NHSLS, Hot Beds. Etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Li team's should do 2-3 tournaments as a team.

Doesn't Ward Melville do a summer invitational.
Lax fest has the grade Nassau/Suffolk games and which also has HS games
One other out of town and that is perfect. NHSLS, Hot Beds. Etc

I agree. ALL High School Teams should play in at least 2 summer events and from experience, the NHSLS and Battle of the Hot Beds in DE are two great events to build team chemistry but also get the players exposure. It's unfortunate a lot of teams coaches do not want anything to do with the team once the season is over...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 Syosset.

You never know which Syosset team is going to show up, the one that came for the CSH match was truly amazing to watch.

So I guess Syo aint dead...

Garden City crucified Syosset but CSH resurrected them

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-5 Syosset.

You never know which Syosset team is going to show up, the one that came for the CSH match was truly amazing to watch.

So I guess Syo aint dead...

Garden City crucified Syosset but CSH resurrected them

Winner winner chicken dinner

The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

The one's that complain he doesn't do enough are the ones who have kids taking it seriously, have a chance to play at the next level and want to be seen over the summer. The one's that complain on the other end of the spectrum don't really care, know their kids aren't going to play so they are along for the ride. The crap part like another poster said is you have coaches who only take their best and most serious players who want the exposure and the chance to play against the best and then you have the Northport coach who takes kids who either have no interest in college ball or are not at that level and like another posted stated, plays them equally because they paid against select state teams. He will start his best players the 1st half and then the 2nd half, it all falls apart. Either way his fee's are paid, hi hotel is covered and what does he care.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesn't have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

[quote=Anonymous]The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Good point and in that case, the starting and effective role players should attend since it is not a school event because those 2 events I mentioned are set up only for the HS teams so there is certainly a platform for them. And most of these events when you see college coaches, that means they are being compensated so they are forced to watch but not every college in attendance is being paid in which those coaches will be more inclined to leave like you said. Lastly, the reason why I agreed with the one poster who said the HS teams should attend 2-3 tournaments is because of everything we are talking about...this will allow the serious players to play on a club team and get exposure that way...

Both those events are filled with high school teams from all over the country and yes they are great, but these teams come to play hard and win. They aren't doing equal playing time for non-serious players. They bring their varsity players. So if your kid is say the starting goalie going up against a top ranked private high school and at some point he is out there with 3rd stringers, how does that help him when he is getting shots taken on him from the crease and getting lit up?
That aside the point about being able to then go play club, not everyone has the ability from a financial perspective to play for some of the club teams. That is what these showcases geared towards high school teams then are supposed to benefit and supplement. The single parent who also has other kids in college might not be able to afford all the trips and the steep fee's involved with the club teams.
It is unfortunate that this isn't taken enough into accord. Just because your kid is not on club doesn't mean they aren't good enough to be.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

[quote=Anonymous]The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Good point and in that case, the starting and effective role players should attend since it is not a school event because those 2 events I mentioned are set up only for the HS teams so there is certainly a platform for them. And most of these events when you see college coaches, that means they are being compensated so they are forced to watch but not every college in attendance is being paid in which those coaches will be more inclined to leave like you said. Lastly, the reason why I agreed with the one poster who said the HS teams should attend 2-3 tournaments is because of everything we are talking about...this will allow the serious players to play on a club team and get exposure that way...

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

Everything in life has a middle ground. Its all about balance.

I hear your points and they are all valid, and some true. A player not on a club team doesn't mean they are not good so I hope you don't think that was what I was referring to. Maybe the coach should tell the tournament directors of the teams merit and match them up accordingly.
But like you mentioned, there are also great showcases to attend and that would be my suggestion if your sons HS team isn't that strong and one thing I always recommend to my players is to attend prospect camps too so there are a lot of options....Im getting off topic but wanted to give my two cents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both those events are filled with high school teams from all over the country and yes they are great, but these teams come to play hard and win. They aren't doing equal playing time for non-serious players. They bring their varsity players. So if your kid is say the starting goalie going up against a top ranked private high school and at some point he is out there with 3rd stringers, how does that help him when he is getting shots taken on him from the crease and getting lit up?
That aside the point about being able to then go play club, not everyone has the ability from a financial perspective to play for some of the club teams. That is what these showcases geared towards high school teams then are supposed to benefit and supplement. The single parent who also has other kids in college might not be able to afford all the trips and the steep fee's involved with the club teams.
It is unfortunate that this isn't taken enough into accord. Just because your kid is not on club doesn't mean they aren't good enough to be.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

[quote=Anonymous]The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Good point and in that case, the starting and effective role players should attend since it is not a school event because those 2 events I mentioned are set up only for the HS teams so there is certainly a platform for them. And most of these events when you see college coaches, that means they are being compensated so they are forced to watch but not every college in attendance is being paid in which those coaches will be more inclined to leave like you said. Lastly, the reason why I agreed with the one poster who said the HS teams should attend 2-3 tournaments is because of everything we are talking about...this will allow the serious players to play on a club team and get exposure that way...

TM,

When are the dates (to play and to register) and process to get invited for Ward Melville and Hot beds.

Would be great if one of the NYS D1 SUNY's did a NYS HS summer tournament series. Better yet, would be great if all three did tournaments, 3 weeks apart from each other just for HS teams. teams dont have to do all 3 but even 2 out of the 3 would be great.

Upper tier/Upstate schools could stay closer to home and play at Binghamton, then go down to LI
LI schools could stay home for one and go to either Albany or Binghamton.
Hudson valley teams your choice

It's ok. Your points were well taken and understood. I think unfortunately, the recruiting system has a flaw in it. If a player is not on a club team, they rarely are even ranked or seen. And pending the position, many of the individual showcases can be a waste of time, For example, the goalie and fogo position , more so the goalie is rough. So many showcases claim to limit the number of kids they take,but once there, your kid is on a team say as a goalie with 6-7 others. How much time is he really going to get to show what he can do when during the games there is a line of kids waiting behind him to jump in at any given moment. There are no guarantees he will even see a shot during his shift. I agree the prospect days are much more beneficial from the universities. This conversation started with the Northport coach who has a notorious and a history for providing minimal to no support for his players. It is a subject for me that hits home as my son was a former player who went through the process and has numerous friends and former team mates who went through the same. He goes through the motions but literally never follows through and although there a number of former players at different levels playing including top D1, ask any and none give any credit or reference to there former coach. They got there through the [ChillLaxin] of their parents, yes club teams and the prospect days. A high school coaches support and recommendation is huge in this process. You see players coming out of good school programs who rarely touch the field and are career backups getting signed just because of where they are coming from and the support of their high school coach. I know it isn't part of the job description but it has always escaped me why a coach wouldn't go out of his way to support his players in getting to the next level.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

I hear your points and they are all valid, and some true. A player not on a club team doesn't mean they are not good so I hope you don't think that was what I was referring to. Maybe the coach should tell the tournament directors of the teams merit and match them up accordingly.
But like you mentioned, there are also great showcases to attend and that would be my suggestion if your sons HS team isn't that strong and one thing I always recommend to my players is to attend prospect camps too so there are a lot of options....Im getting off topic but wanted to give my two cents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both those events are filled with high school teams from all over the country and yes they are great, but these teams come to play hard and win. They aren't doing equal playing time for non-serious players. They bring their varsity players. So if your kid is say the starting goalie going up against a top ranked private high school and at some point he is out there with 3rd stringers, how does that help him when he is getting shots taken on him from the crease and getting lit up?
That aside the point about being able to then go play club, not everyone has the ability from a financial perspective to play for some of the club teams. That is what these showcases geared towards high school teams then are supposed to benefit and supplement. The single parent who also has other kids in college might not be able to afford all the trips and the steep fee's involved with the club teams.
It is unfortunate that this isn't taken enough into accord. Just because your kid is not on club doesn't mean they aren't good enough to be.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

[quote=Anonymous]The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Good point and in that case, the starting and effective role players should attend since it is not a school event because those 2 events I mentioned are set up only for the HS teams so there is certainly a platform for them. And most of these events when you see college coaches, that means they are being compensated so they are forced to watch but not every college in attendance is being paid in which those coaches will be more inclined to leave like you said. Lastly, the reason why I agreed with the one poster who said the HS teams should attend 2-3 tournaments is because of everything we are talking about...this will allow the serious players to play on a club team and get exposure that way...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TM,

When are the dates (to play and to register) and process to get invited for Ward Melville and Hot beds.

Would be great if one of the NYS D1 SUNY's did a NYS HS summer tournament series. Better yet, would be great if all three did tournaments, 3 weeks apart from each other just for HS teams. teams dont have to do all 3 but even 2 out of the 3 would be great.

Upper tier/Upstate schools could stay closer to home and play at Binghamton, then go down to LI
LI schools could stay home for one and go to either Albany or Binghamton.
Hudson valley teams your choice

The NHLS is from July 6th-8th and HB is from July 16th-18th. Registration is most likely due no later than May 15th but they are among the 2 most popular HS only Tournaments so probably by May 1st. Are you asking on behalf of a team or out of curiosity if you don't mind me asking?

I think that would be a cool idea and maybe have it so the one on the island can have brackets based on how the teams did at those new tournaments to make it more competitive & a true playoff system for bragging rights but also a way to put together appropriate matchups to help teams not get crushed for the lower tier level teams.

I know exactly how you feel 2nd and I too am bewildered on the lack of support by a lot of HS coaches. As for rankings, I you a going off of Ty, I wouldn't sweat it - look at his list and 47 of the 50 players were from NLF affiliated teams (I wonder why...sarcasm)

As for the showcases, that is a shame and highway robbery. One suggestion I tell people is to look at the size of the showcases and number of coaches attending. I prefer small ones with in between 160-210 players but 2 goalies a team should be the very most.

Northport isnt alone unfortunately - look at GC. They already have 4 2019 D1 commits and that's bc of Coach Finnell and Manhasset use to be the same under The helm of former HC, Bill Cherry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's ok. Your points were well taken and understood. I think unfortunately, the recruiting system has a flaw in it. If a player is not on a club team, they rarely are even ranked or seen. And pending the position, many of the individual showcases can be a waste of time, For example, the goalie and fogo position , more so the goalie is rough. So many showcases claim to limit the number of kids they take,but once there, your kid is on a team say as a goalie with 6-7 others. How much time is he really going to get to show what he can do when during the games there is a line of kids waiting behind him to jump in at any given moment. There are no guarantees he will even see a shot during his shift. I agree the prospect days are much more beneficial from the universities. This conversation started with the Northport coach who has a notorious and a history for providing minimal to no support for his players. It is a subject for me that hits home as my son was a former player who went through the process and has numerous friends and former team mates who went through the same. He goes through the motions but literally never follows through and although there a number of former players at different levels playing including top D1, ask any and none give any credit or reference to there former coach. They got there through the [ChillLaxin] of their parents, yes club teams and the prospect days. A high school coaches support and recommendation is huge in this process. You see players coming out of good school programs who rarely touch the field and are career backups getting signed just because of where they are coming from and the support of their high school coach. I know it isn't part of the job description but it has always escaped me why a coach wouldn't go out of his way to support his players in getting to the next level.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

I hear your points and they are all valid, and some true. A player not on a club team doesn't mean they are not good so I hope you don't think that was what I was referring to. Maybe the coach should tell the tournament directors of the teams merit and match them up accordingly.
But like you mentioned, there are also great showcases to attend and that would be my suggestion if your sons HS team isn't that strong and one thing I always recommend to my players is to attend prospect camps too so there are a lot of options....Im getting off topic but wanted to give my two cents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both those events are filled with high school teams from all over the country and yes they are great, but these teams come to play hard and win. They aren't doing equal playing time for non-serious players. They bring their varsity players. So if your kid is say the starting goalie going up against a top ranked private high school and at some point he is out there with 3rd stringers, how does that help him when he is getting shots taken on him from the crease and getting lit up?
That aside the point about being able to then go play club, not everyone has the ability from a financial perspective to play for some of the club teams. That is what these showcases geared towards high school teams then are supposed to benefit and supplement. The single parent who also has other kids in college might not be able to afford all the trips and the steep fee's involved with the club teams.
It is unfortunate that this isn't taken enough into accord. Just because your kid is not on club doesn't mean they aren't good enough to be.

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

[quote=Anonymous]The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Good point and in that case, the starting and effective role players should attend since it is not a school event because those 2 events I mentioned are set up only for the HS teams so there is certainly a platform for them. And most of these events when you see college coaches, that means they are being compensated so they are forced to watch but not every college in attendance is being paid in which those coaches will be more inclined to leave like you said. Lastly, the reason why I agreed with the one poster who said the HS teams should attend 2-3 tournaments is because of everything we are talking about...this will allow the serious players to play on a club team and get exposure that way...

How’s the St.Ants Penn State commit doing so far? Any minutes? Why is it that there’s players still on JV at St.Ants that are committed? For instance, the other Penn State commit and the kid from Brentwood. Shouldn’t players that are COMMITTED to a D1 college be moved up to varsity, since a college coach recruited them? Gosh, sick of seeing kids who are committed still playing with mediocre kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s the St.Ants Penn State commit doing so far? Any minutes? Why is it that there’s players still on JV at St.Ants that are committed? For instance, the other Penn State commit and the kid from Brentwood. Shouldn’t players that are COMMITTED to a D1 college be moved up to varsity, since a college coach recruited them? Gosh, sick of seeing kids who are committed still playing with mediocre kids.

only 10 players on the field at one time and St A and Chammy can have over 15 committed players in a single class so you are always going to have D1 committed players on the bench and before the recruiting rules changed you had a plethora of D1 committed players on the bench or on JV at both schools - my guess is that in the coaches opinion, the players on the field are better than the the players on the bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How’s the St.Ants Penn State commit doing so far? Any minutes? Why is it that there’s players still on JV at St.Ants that are committed? For instance, the other Penn State commit and the kid from Brentwood. Shouldn’t players that are COMMITTED to a D1 college be moved up to varsity, since a college coach recruited them? Gosh, sick of seeing kids who are committed still playing with mediocre kids.

He's doing fine......Losers like you add zero value to this forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

Meh - town teams should be ENTIRELY about improving a school's program, NOT about individual performances. If you're a player looking for recruiting exposure, there's a whole industry catering to that, and it's called Club, and relying on town team tournaments for exposure means you're doing it wrong. A quality player will have adequate exposure with their school team during regular season and playoff play, where the better players are going to get more time.

BTW, it's "gel"...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

This year's team is very good. Good Goalie Committed to Wingate, 3 or 4 good Defense men, 1st line Mids are very good and are Juniors - 2 Mid Line is good and are Sophs. D-poles are good. Att 1 senior 1 jr 1 soph are Ok but expect most of the offensive to be run through the Mids. FOGO - very good.

Typical NPT Team, solid will make the playoffs win 1st yound and then lose to the better coached teams.

gel: a jellylike substance containing a cosmetic, medicinal, or other preparation.

jell: (of people) relate well to one another.

That's your first mistake. 2nd, if you are a town team going to recruiting showcases, well there is another mistake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

Meh - town teams should be ENTIRELY about improving a school's program, NOT about individual performances. If you're a player looking for recruiting exposure, there's a whole industry catering to that, and it's called Club, and relying on town team tournaments for exposure means you're doing it wrong. A quality player will have adequate exposure with their school team during regular season and playoff play, where the better players are going to get more time.

BTW, it's "gel"...

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

Are you high Port for title!! Pequa yes port no

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

thought this was a joke at first but then I looked at their schedule and I do not see a team on the schedule that will even challenge them, They will be undefeated going into the LIC and I doubt WM or SW can stay with them - anything less than an undefeated state championship for this squad would be a huge disappointment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

Are you high Port for title!! Pequa yes port no

If this is a Port parent please stop hitting the bottle at lunch. Dont write checks your kids can not cash. Port has to get past Farmingdale and Syosset first. Both teams are very well coached unlike Port. Ports coach is big baby on the sideline who completely loses it and loses control of the game. Refs hate him. You will never get calls because of him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

Are you high Port for title!! Pequa yes port no

If this is a Port parent please stop hitting the bottle at lunch. Dont write checks your kids can not cash. Port has to get past Farmingdale and Syosset first. Both teams are very well coached unlike Port. Ports coach is big baby on the sideline who completely loses it and loses control of the game. Refs hate him. You will never get calls because of him.

Doubt it's a Port parent. Just some numb nut stirring the pot.

Ah, so your kid has to be one of those 1st line Mids. Picked up on the credit you gave to every other kid as good but that 1st mid line as very good. Sorry, i question just cause my son rides the bench for Hills East and no disrespect, but it wasn't your 1st mid line nor anyone other than your goalie and his D that kept you from getting blown out by double digits last week. Your goalie is much better than good and I am figuring ifr all the trash said about the coach is true not helping his players with recruiting , he would be going to a different school, likely even a D1. That kid put on a show and your dpoles did as much. Your defense is going to keep you in every game this year even against teams like Smithtown and WM and your offense needs to pull their weight and do more than get outshot like they did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

This year's team is very good. Good Goalie Committed to Wingate, 3 or 4 good Defense men, 1st line Mids are very good and are Juniors - 2 Mid Line is good and are Sophs. D-poles are good. Att 1 senior 1 jr 1 soph are Ok but expect most of the offensive to be run through the Mids. FOGO - very good.

Typical NPT Team, solid will make the playoffs win 1st yound and then lose to the better coached teams.

Ah, that great 1st middie line that never got a shot off in the last minute, that got stripped and cost you the game against hills east? That line? Sorry, my kids on Whitman and we get the game film and saw it play out. The strip was bad enough but you could have knocked the kid out of bounds instead of stick checking and giving up a fast break and a shot that was less than 10 yards out. But yeah, that is partially the coaches fault. Sports 101. Hold the ball for the last shot or go into overtime. You should have won that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

This year's team is very good. Good Goalie Committed to Wingate, 3 or 4 good Defense men, 1st line Mids are very good and are Juniors - 2 Mid Line is good and are Sophs. D-poles are good. Att 1 senior 1 jr 1 soph are Ok but expect most of the offensive to be run through the Mids. FOGO - very good.

Typical NPT Team, solid will make the playoffs win 1st yound and then lose to the better coached teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ah, that great 1st middie line that never got a shot off in the last minute, that got stripped and cost you the game against hills east? That line? Sorry, my kids on Whitman and we get the game film and saw it play out. The strip was bad enough but you could have knocked the kid out of bounds instead of stick checking and giving up a fast break and a shot that was less than 10 yards out. But yeah, that is partially the coaches fault. Sports 101. Hold the ball for the last shot or go into overtime. You should have won that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

This year's team is very good. Good Goalie Committed to Wingate, 3 or 4 good Defense men, 1st line Mids are very good and are Juniors - 2 Mid Line is good and are Sophs. D-poles are good. Att 1 senior 1 jr 1 soph are Ok but expect most of the offensive to be run through the Mids. FOGO - very good.

Typical NPT Team, solid will make the playoffs win 1st yound and then lose to the better coached teams.

Are you posters adults? If so there’s no wonder so many kids act like morons.

Just saw the Newsday top 100 players and it is easy to see that most kids are on and others are not for a variety of reasons. The Herzog guy is a dope and normally doesn't get much right but to say a kid scored twice as many goals as proof that the kid is deserving of being on the list is absurd, Does responsible reporting mean anything to this guy, the stats from last year can easily be checked on his own papers website.

NCC and Navy Prep really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw the Newsday top 100 players and it is easy to see that most kids are on and others are not for a variety of reasons. The Herzog guy is a dope and normally doesn't get much right but to say a kid scored twice as many goals as proof that the kid is deserving of being on the list is absurd, Does responsible reporting mean anything to this guy, the stats from last year can easily be checked on his own papers website.

Stats on the site can only measure the range, there is no accuracy. Kids names spelt 2/3 ways,. Stats never recorded correctly (over/under) .

For the most part,. The top 100 Isn't too far off, you always have 10 you can argue for or against

He is an stunad. He had a goalie on i believe just because he is committed to St. Joe's on the Island. The best reason i think was he had like close to 100 saves last season. My kids teams goalie had like 200, made all county and isn't on the list. Guess it is who kisses a little....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw the Newsday top 100 players and it is easy to see that most kids are on and others are not for a variety of reasons. The Herzog guy is a dope and normally doesn't get much right but to say a kid scored twice as many goals as proof that the kid is deserving of being on the list is absurd, Does responsible reporting mean anything to this guy, the stats from last year can easily be checked on his own papers website.

I don't see anything wrong with the banter these guys are having. Nothing moronic at all Just talking about one program really which is actually a welcome to what usually occurs on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ah, that great 1st middie line that never got a shot off in the last minute, that got stripped and cost you the game against hills east? That line? Sorry, my kids on Whitman and we get the game film and saw it play out. The strip was bad enough but you could have knocked the kid out of bounds instead of stick checking and giving up a fast break and a shot that was less than 10 yards out. But yeah, that is partially the coaches fault. Sports 101. Hold the ball for the last shot or go into overtime. You should have won that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You seem to know a heck of a lot about them so i would [ChillLaxin] you are from the town. So what do you think if this year's squad, strengths and weaknesses and where they could possibly go? Can they make the playoffs and get past round one? Granted last year they ran into Ward Melville in Round 2 and if i remember, for at least a half they were in the game.

But curious if you can break down this years team and any and all potential?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the Northport coach blew another game, it’s been happening for years. Most disliked coach in the town

Northport has an unbelievable youth program. More than 600 kids every year. Their JV teams (yes they have 2 JV Teams) usually go undefeated or only lose 1 or 2 games per season.

This year Northport has 3 kids starting for Michigan, 1 for Maryland, 1 for North Carolina, 1 for Binghamton, 1 for Monmouth, many D3 and JC players including the top scorers at NCC and at Navy Prep and they can't do more than win a 1st round playoff game with this coach. Crazy right. Hopefully the new AD sees all this and get's rid of him and promotes the JV1 Coach, who played at SBU with in the last 10 years.

This year's team is very good. Good Goalie Committed to Wingate, 3 or 4 good Defense men, 1st line Mids are very good and are Juniors - 2 Mid Line is good and are Sophs. D-poles are good. Att 1 senior 1 jr 1 soph are Ok but expect most of the offensive to be run through the Mids. FOGO - very good.

Typical NPT Team, solid will make the playoffs win 1st yound and then lose to the better coached teams.

Are you posters adults? If so there’s no wonder so many kids act like morons.

any scores from this mornings games?

Northport beat up Sachem North 15-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

any scores from this mornings games?

Big Game today West Islip vs Riverhead
Big game tomorrow
HHW vs Harborfields
Islip vs ESm
Mt Si vs SWR
Why was Smithtown East and Huntington postpone?

No LI boys on UA All-America?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game today West Islip vs Riverhead
Big game tomorrow
HHW vs Harborfields
Islip vs ESm
Mt Si vs SWR
Why was Smithtown East and Huntington postpone?

West Islip Beat Riverhead 8-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game today West Islip vs Riverhead
Big game tomorrow
HHW vs Harborfields
Islip vs ESm
Mt Si vs SWR
Why was Smithtown East and Huntington postpone?

West Islip Beat Riverhead 8-7

WI Won 8-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport beat up Sachem North 15-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

any scores from this mornings games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI boys on UA All-America?

Tryout is in June, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI boys on UA All-America?

Tryout is in June, isn't it?

No tryout for senior game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw the Newsday top 100 players and it is easy to see that most kids are on and others are not for a variety of reasons. The Herzog guy is a dope and normally doesn't get much right but to say a kid scored twice as many goals as proof that the kid is deserving of being on the list is absurd, Does responsible reporting mean anything to this guy, the stats from last year can easily be checked on his own papers website.

Stats on the site can only measure the range, there is no accuracy. Kids names spelt 2/3 ways,. Stats never recorded correctly (over/under) .

For the most part,. The top 100 Isn't too far off, you always have 10 you can argue for or against

Off by 20-30 points . Nah I can't accept it and it never is an under always greater. It especially gets fraudulent when a team records more [ChillLaxin] than goals. Hockey [ChillLaxin] don't count in High School Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI boys on UA All-America?

Tryout is in June, isn't it?

No tryout for senior game

Senior AAs are chosen, no tryout, the last couple of years LI was well represented. 1st picks are considered the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game today West Islip vs Riverhead
Big game tomorrow
HHW vs Harborfields
Islip vs ESm
Mt Si vs SWR
Why was Smithtown East and Huntington postpone?

Snow on turf

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No LI boys on UA All-America?

Tryout is in June, isn't it?

No tryout for senior game

Senior AAs are chosen, no tryout, the last couple of years LI was well represented. 1st picks are considered the best.

Thanks, this is my first time around any of this.

GC up 4-3 over Salesian (DE) with 4 mins left in first half.

WI always takes a lot of shots, thats how you score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

gel: a jellylike substance containing a cosmetic, medicinal, or other preparation.

jell: (of people) relate well to one another.

That's your first mistake. 2nd, if you are a town team going to recruiting showcases, well there is another mistake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The northport coach does have them do tournaments and showcases but his system is flawed. You are going to these evens against select teams from all over the country with kids looking to be seen for college as well as jell with their teams for the coming season. He is inviting kids who will never see the field on varsity let alone play in college and takes the "pay to play" approach so everyone plays equal time. So you are hurting your players who are there for exposure because yes if a college coach is there to see a specific kid he will, but the sidelines aren't full for the teams getting slammed on the 2nd or 3rd day because you haven't won a game due to this.

Originally Posted by America's Game

I think its funny when a high school coach doesnt have the team play together over the summer there are parents that complain the coach doesn't do enough. Then you have high school coaches that have the kids do one or two tournaments over the summer and you have parents complain they do too much.

Meh - town teams should be ENTIRELY about improving a school's program, NOT about individual performances. If you're a player looking for recruiting exposure, there's a whole industry catering to that, and it's called Club, and relying on town team tournaments for exposure means you're doing it wrong. A quality player will have adequate exposure with their school team during regular season and playoff play, where the better players are going to get more time.

BTW, it's "gel"...

SMH - gel is short for gelatin, which comes together when it forms. Using the definitions for the noun forms of a word as a basis for the verb is not always appropriate. That said, either word is appropriate for the connotation, although, personally I prefer gel over jell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI always takes a lot of shots, thats how you score

The team takes a lot of shots?

Mysterious.... GC gets its first win in 3 games and the score is in newsday the same night.... prior 2 games - no box score for days.
More of the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mysterious.... GC gets its first win in 3 games and the score is in newsday the same night.... prior 2 games - no box score for days.
More of the same.

Doesn't the winning team report the scores and if non conference it may take a bit longer. Happens to many other teams, losing team doesn't have control.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mysterious.... GC gets its first win in 3 games and the score is in newsday the same night.... prior 2 games - no box score for days.
More of the same.

Take off the Tin foil hat dude! How badly did they beat your kids team any way?

Harborfields beat Hills West 14-11

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harborfields beat Hills West 14-11

Not surprised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harborfields beat Hills West 14-11

Great game. Back and forth the whole way. The youth of Hills West showed at the end of the game. I

If you go to a school that is MCLA and they plan of going NCAA, do your years before they become NCAA count against eligibility or could you use graduate school as a forum to continue playing.

Wasnt thinking UTAH but it works for UTAH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you go to a school that is MCLA and they plan of going NCAA, do your years before they become NCAA count against eligibility or could you use graduate school as a forum to continue playing.

Wasnt thinking UTAH but it works for UTAH

I am pretty certain that in Lacrosse, you only have 4 years of eligibility in a 5 year period once you attend any college even if you do not play lacrosse. If someone else knows differently, please chime in but I am pretty sure of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

thought this was a joke at first but then I looked at their schedule and I do not see a team on the schedule that will even challenge them, They will be undefeated going into the LIC and I doubt WM or SW can stay with them - anything less than an undefeated state championship for this squad would be a huge disappointment

nobody beating Port this year, No Shore tried and went down in flames 13-12 - Port will not be challenged until LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

thought this was a joke at first but then I looked at their schedule and I do not see a team on the schedule that will even challenge them, They will be undefeated going into the LIC and I doubt WM or SW can stay with them - anything less than an undefeated state championship for this squad would be a huge disappointment

nobody beating Port this year, No Shore tried and went down in flames 13-12 - Port will not be challenged until LIC

Port barely beat North Shore. You hitting that bottle again in your desk draw.

yes that is correct once you enroll in college the 5 year clock starts . How ever playing for a junior college does not start that clock.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

thought this was a joke at first but then I looked at their schedule and I do not see a team on the schedule that will even challenge them, They will be undefeated going into the LIC and I doubt WM or SW can stay with them - anything less than an undefeated state championship for this squad would be a huge disappointment

nobody beating Port this year, No Shore tried and went down in flames 13-12 - Port will not be challenged until LIC
Hold on there cowboy I agree that for a student body of about 1550 your schedule is soft. However you might be suffering from a delusion of grandeur.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes that is correct once you enroll in college the 5 year clock starts . How ever playing for a junior college does not start that clock.

Junior college counts in your 4 years of eligibility!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes that is correct once you enroll in college the 5 year clock starts . How ever playing for a junior college does not start that clock.

playing a year in Jr College uses a year of eligibility - the question was if you play a year of club do you use up a year of eligibility

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes that is correct once you enroll in college the 5 year clock starts . How ever playing for a junior college does not start that clock.

If you play JUCO, those years are counted towards your eligibility if you are enrolled in at least 12 credits which is would be assumed considering you need to be enrolled into 12 credits in order to be eligible. I had a few Nassau & Herkimer (Junior Colleges) transfers and they too can only play 4 Total years of college lacrosse within the 5 year clock unless of course you serve in the military before or during college in which then that stops the clock.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Port v Pequa for the A title so far

thought this was a joke at first but then I looked at their schedule and I do not see a team on the schedule that will even challenge them, They will be undefeated going into the LIC and I doubt WM or SW can stay with them - anything less than an undefeated state championship for this squad would be a huge disappointment

nobody beating Port this year, No Shore tried and went down in flames 13-12 - Port will not be challenged until LIC
Hold on there cowboy I agree that for a student body of about 1550 your schedule is soft. However you might be suffering from a delusion of grandeur.

So of the so called big schools port has the lowest

Massapequa enrollment 9-12 2262
Syosset enrollment 9-12 2084
Farmingdale enrollment 9-12 1920
Port enrollment 9-12 1626

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you go to a school that is MCLA and they plan of going NCAA, do your years before they become NCAA count against eligibility or could you use graduate school as a forum to continue playing.

Wasnt thinking UTAH but it works for UTAH

I am pretty certain that in Lacrosse, you only have 4 years of eligibility in a 5 year period once you attend any college even if you do not play lacrosse. If someone else knows differently, please chime in but I am pretty sure of this.

you are correct - once you enroll in a college full time your five year clock starts, even if you do not play (or play club) they do have exceptions.....Casey Carroll of Duke : A three-year starter and two-time All-American for Duke’s close defense … Started his career with the Blue Devils in the fall of 2003 and graduated from Duke in 2007 … Went on to serve in the 3rd BN 75th Ranger Regiment of the US Army from 2007-12 … Returned to Duke in the fall of 2012 and suffered a torn ACL prior to the 2013 season … Hit the field again Feb. 8, 2014 after a medical redshirt for the first time since May 28, 2007 – a span of 2,447 days … Played in 77 games with 60 starts … Amassed 214 ground balls along with two goals and two assists … Was a member of two NCAA Championship teams (2013, 2014), four Duke teams that advanced to championship weekend (2005, 2007, 2013, 2014) and two NCAA runner-up squads.

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

Manhasset no match for St. Anthonys today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

You won first half, Pequa out played you second half

Some great games in Suffolk A
Ward Melville vs West Islip
Smithtown West vs Northport
Hills East vs Smith East
Quott vs Cmack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

Pequa needs to fix off the field stuff, some kids need to fix their life style or be cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

No it was 8-5.

Chaminade vs Massapequa Score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great games in Suffolk A
Ward Melville vs West Islip
Smithtown West vs Northport
Hills East vs Smith East
Quott vs Cmack

What's the over/under on WI shots tomorrow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

it was 8-5. You must have been hitting the red cup pretty hard to miss three goals there slick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Chaminade beat Pequa convincingly

You think 8-5 is convincingly. I would say a club team beating a town team by 3 is a very close game. Considering the fact that Chaminade has the best players around according to their dads.

It was 8-2 and never close. WM next up and that will be an easy win Chaminade.

it was 8-5. You must have been hitting the red cup pretty hard to miss three goals there slick. [/quote

At one point the game was 8-2 Chaminade with about 4 minutes to go in the game. The final score of 8-5 was the result of a couple of irrelevant goals after Chaminade dominated the first 44 minutes. It was never close as an 8-5 score would indicate. The only facet of the game where Massapequa competed was at FO. I am no Chaminade no, but that is the simple truth. Watch the game on news 12 Varisty to make your own determination.

Syosset....11 - 4 Loss to New Canaan

Gonna be a Lon year for all the Lax daddies

Chaminade was the better team yesterday, great talent, but to say the last 3 goals were irrelevant is wrong. you dominated first half only. Pequa needs help on offense.

[quote=Anonymous]Chaminade was the better team yesterday, great talent, but to say the last 3 goals were irrelevant is wrong. you dominated first half only. Pequa needs help on offense.[/quote)

If these exact teams played 10X. Chaminade would win 10X. Like I said, I am no fan of Chaminade. The game was not close.

Maybe for the next one Pequa can borrow one Chaminade’s red, gold or white midfield lines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Chaminade was the better team yesterday, great talent, but to say the last 3 goals were irrelevant is wrong. you dominated first half only. Pequa needs help on offense.[/quote)

If these exact teams played 10X. Chaminade would win 10X. Like I said, I am no fan of Chaminade. The game was not close.

Maybe for the next one Pequa can borrow one Chaminade’s red, gold or white midfield lines.

Anybody who has a 2018er and played club, knows the talent that is there this year. It is unmatched, just a special year for the red and gold and they play well together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset....11 - 4 Loss to New Canaan

Gonna be a Lon year for all the Lax daddies

just as Lon as every other year, about two months

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Chaminade was the better team yesterday, great talent, but to say the last 3 goals were irrelevant is wrong. you dominated first half only. Pequa needs help on offense.[/quote)

If these exact teams played 10X. Chaminade would win 10X. Like I said, I am no fan of Chaminade. The game was not close.

Maybe for the next one Pequa can borrow one Chaminade’s red, gold or white midfield lines.

Anybody who has a 2018er and played club, knows the talent that is there this year. It is unmatched, just a special year for the red and gold and they play well together.

I would say many 2018 players and parents would disagree. There is talent in that age group but probably less than other years. In all honesty this particular senior class has garnered some great accolades but mostly at a younger age. A lot of lax daddies and coaches pulling favors for those early commitments. Sme of those players that had been anointed as the best players in 7th and and 8th grade have not been that impressive. There are a few factors that early commitments especially 8th/9th graders face. Do they grow, do they stay healthy, and do they continue to improve their game. For some of these players size is an issue, for others their health. The other thing is skill. Many of these kids were ahead of other players skill wise at a young age, so they looked dominant. As the years have passed the gap in skill level has been closed and on some cases they have been overtaken. Yet now you take a very good group of players who all happen to play on the same team at Chaminade since 9th grade. Yes they look good how could they not with the talent they have. Yet as individuals they are not as good as many want you to believe. They do not have anywhere near the individual talent other teams have had.

Any scores back from today's games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great games in Suffolk A
Ward Melville vs West Islip
Smithtown West vs Northport
Hills East vs Smith East
Quott vs Cmack

Any scores from today’s games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset....11 - 4 Loss to New Canaan

Gonna be a Lon year for all the Lax daddies

just as Lon as every other year, about two months

witty----

it will feel so much longer

West Islip lost in OT 6-5

Hills West over Carey 16-14.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset no match for St. Anthonys today.

St. Anthonys got spanked by Yorktown.....so I guess LI is weak this year and Yorktown is strong??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip lost in OT 6-5

Do the WI coaches know they have a press guy taking pictures and coaching from the away sidelines?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills West over Carey 16-14.

Now that is a surprising scorer

Hills West is not very good I guess. I don't understand that they have a duke and Michigan commit and they don't really do that well as a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills West is not very good I guess. I don't understand that they have a duke and Michigan commit and they don't really do that well as a team.

Is the coach any good? Heard he played at Hofstra.

West killed Northport 13-1. Enough said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any scores from today’s games

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills West is not very good I guess. I don't understand that they have a duke and Michigan commit and they don't really do that well as a team.

Is the coach any good? Heard he played at Hofstra.

They were destroyed by Smithtown West, they are a low tier team and their big “commits” do nothing against good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills West is not very good I guess. I don't understand that they have a duke and Michigan commit and they don't really do that well as a team.

Yes. duke and Michigan and PENN State commits. Three seniors returned to start. Young team that is building momentum and is starting to gel. Please underestimate them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

you peeps are cray cray - it's the second week of the season, Mass. has a monster defense-man and a monster fogo who will both excel at the next level - their is a lot to this sport beside scoring goals. without naming names Chaminade has some excellent players that will also middy going to Yale is a GREAT player and I think a bunch of kids will excel at the next level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

you peeps are cray cray - it's the second week of the season, Mass. has a monster defense-man and a monster fogo who will both excel at the next level - their is a lot to this sport beside scoring goals. without naming names Chaminade has some excellent players that will also middy going to Yale is a GREAT player and I think a bunch of kids will excel at the next level

Lax daddy, come on. You are so transparent with the GREAT player. Trying to make up for a lack of size. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

you peeps are cray cray - it's the second week of the season, Mass. has a monster defense-man and a monster fogo who will both excel at the next level - their is a lot to this sport beside scoring goals. without naming names Chaminade has some excellent players that will also middy going to Yale is a GREAT player and I think a bunch of kids will excel at the next level

Lax daddy, come on. You are so transparent with the GREAT player. Trying to make up for a lack of size. Lol.

I know the kids dad and I would be willing t o bet he has never heard of this site -

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

you peeps are cray cray - it's the second week of the season, Mass. has a monster defense-man and a monster fogo who will both excel at the next level - their is a lot to this sport beside scoring goals. without naming names Chaminade has some excellent players that will also middy going to Yale is a GREAT player and I think a bunch of kids will excel at the next level

Lax daddy, come on. You are so transparent with the GREAT player. Trying to make up for a lack of size. Lol.

I know the kids dad and I would be willing t o bet he has never heard of this site -

Well I know him also and you are absolutely 100% wrong. He knows this site and he knows it well. He has his little fingers stirring many pots. If you know him you should know this.

Heard it could have been 20-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

Those kids should have been benched for the rest of the game for taking those shots. They put the win in jeopardy against a team with a whole lot of offensive momentum and an unbeatable faceoff guy.

Hopefully he's doing a better job them our current ones .

What game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard it could have been 20-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score was 4-2 second half Massapequa
Chaminade played all there starters the whole game- still trying to score with less than a minute to play took 3 shots on cage.

First time in last five years Pequa has no great player.

I guess we can say the same for Chaminade also. Its bizarre.

you peeps are cray cray - it's the second week of the season, Mass. has a monster defense-man and a monster fogo who will both excel at the next level - their is a lot to this sport beside scoring goals. without naming names Chaminade has some excellent players that will also middy going to Yale is a GREAT player and I think a bunch of kids will excel at the next level

Lax daddy, come on. You are so transparent with the GREAT player. Trying to make up for a lack of size. Lol.

I know the kids dad and I would be willing t o bet he has never heard of this site -

He's one of the biggest self promoters in the game. Didn't he launch a lax site naming his son the top recruit in class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard it could have been 20-1

No it could not have been. You weren’t there so don’t act like a stunad. It was obvious that Chaminade was the better team. That’s fine, Massapequa will win the conference and play for the Island. That’s it! Chaminade will play for the CHSAA, that’s it. If you’re sons team is playing for it all at the end, great, if not, better luck next year.

i think they are talking about SW VS NORTHPORT

Um, i think you are wrong on that. Northport doesn't have any big commits that I am aware of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i think they are talking about SW VS NORTHPORT

Pizza, Squirrel, Rainbows.
What does commits have to do with it.
They are talking about "...thinking it could have been 20-1"

There was no mention of commits, but since you asked dont they have a few?

And what constitutes a big commit anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, i think you are wrong on that. Northport doesn't have any big commits that I am aware of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i think they are talking about SW VS NORTHPORT

So here is a question for Friday afternoon, when you think of a good offensive player do you look purely at stats (I.e. the attack who finishes) or do you look at the player who does more for his team and does not necessarily get the huge stats?

What say you back of the cage?

My Only answer can be, when a great player has the ball all other five players have stick over their head thinking he could pass to me.

the old adage is "he makes players around him better" is one way of looking at "great". a complete attack player will be the best rider on the team, handle bad passes from teammates to keep possession, so good on ground balls that when a game is tight they put him on the wing. Players with those attributes will also usually have a lot of points to go with everything else, now you have a complete player.

Northport v SW

Yeah Bill. It's always the coaching. Kids vaping in the locker room. Not showing up for practice. Parents that think their kids are good but give every excuse why they can't throw the ball in the goal. No discipline allowed. An administration that could care less. Your right. It's the coaching. So the result is taking a coach that tried to change the things and play at a higher level and replacing him with a guy that had the job, got fired, and now rehired to be a lap dog for the AD. That's how to move a program forward. But again...It's all the coaches fault. They will play 8 games this year as scheduled. Might as well be in the middle school league. Talk about coaching having an effect on the kids. What does that say?

I agree. He should be replaced. Look at what he did with the lax programs. Fires a D1 guy that trie to swim against the tide and make it a respectable program to hiring a guy who was fired and now rehired because he won't stand up. As long as the AD is a baseball coach, they don't care about lacrosse

Big game today, Melville vs Chaminade. Whose going to win?

So if they were talking about Northport, what the heck happened in a week. How do you go from barely losing a game to Hills East to getting obliterated by Smithtown West? Both Hills and West are solid programs so it would seem to be a problem with Northport. Major issues with that program. Very inconsistent. You won't go very far in this division if you can't break the double digit mark on shots taken and allow the competition to take triple digit shots.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pizza, Squirrel, Rainbows.
What does commits have to do with it.
They are talking about "...thinking it could have been 20-1"

There was no mention of commits, but since you asked dont they have a few?

And what constitutes a big commit anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, i think you are wrong on that. Northport doesn't have any big commits that I am aware of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i think they are talking about SW VS NORTHPORT

Did anyone see the disaster of Northport destroying Sachem on tv??

Farmingdale Bethpage was a fun game to watch last night. Great job by both teams.

Uh Oh Ward Melville over Chaminade. Let's hear it for the public school beating the so called juggernaut Chaminade. Congratulations to Ward Melville.

After blowing the game yesterday and losing to Kings Park, HHHW beats Port Washington in overtime today. Hills was down two starting long poles yesterday and got one back today. Hills has lots of talent, but inexperience is killing them.

WM beats Chaminade 11-7. All those Chaminade players who can play at next level should learn to play in HS first. Daddy

Ward Melville smacked Chaminade. Love it

WM wins 11-7. What happened to all the Chaminade players who can play at next level. Don’t count on it.

Northport is just not that good and not well coached. You had 31 shots to 9. They have a good defense and a good goalie but you are
Not going to win to many games in this division like that, at least not against the top teams. Their offense is weak, they don't have a stud who can score from anywhere and they have a decent fogo who is very inconsistent. They won 3 face offs against SW
They will be lucky to go .500 this season and make the playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport v SW

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville smacked Chaminade. Love it

Would have loved to see that game.

St As over Haverford 16-5. Looks like the super sophs are starting to figure things out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset no match for St. Anthonys today.

St. Anthonys got spanked by Yorktown.....so I guess LI is weak this year and Yorktown is strong??

And the Friars smacked Haverford 16-6 today. Haverford is a top 10 team. Any of the top teams (public included) can beat each other. I posted Chaminade wouldn't lose this year and they were beat. I said after watching WM play and they looked flat. But that's sports.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville smacked Chaminade. Love it

Would have loved to see that game.

Me do Chaminade stinks lol

How many goals did the GREAT middie committed have verse a GREAT Defense??

Friars seem to be figuring it out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville smacked Chaminade. Love it

Would have loved to see that game.

Me do Chaminade stinks lol

you people need to grow up... Jeez .

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St As over Haverford 16-5. Looks like the super sophs are starting to figure things out.

There is only one super soph. The rest are there to keep the parents happy and setup the next two years. The posting is they will be the same offense not the dodge and go thru offense on JV a.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville smacked Chaminade. Love it

Would have loved to see that game.

Me do Chaminade stinks lol

you people need to grow up... Jeez .

Game can be replayed any time on channel 12 varsity, if you would like to re watch the bleeding.

WI Boys lost another tight one to Pensfield
Looks like a few kids need to step up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

SW and WM is on the schedule for 4/25. WM and St A's played a pre-season scrimmage. I THINK WM won by two late goals but I'm not certain. Of course it was a scrimmage so take it for what it's worth. I would like to see a mid-season match up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

SW and WM is on the schedule for 4/25. WM and St A's played a pre-season scrimmage. I THINK WM won by two late goals but I'm not certain. Of course it was a scrimmage so take it for what it's worth. I would like to see a mid-season match up.

You thought wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI Boys lost another tight one to Pensfield
Looks like a few kids need to step up

When was the last time WI was 1-4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

SW and WM is on the schedule for 4/25. WM and St A's played a pre-season scrimmage. I THINK WM won by two late goals but I'm not certain. Of course it was a scrimmage so take it for what it's worth. I would like to see a mid-season match up.

You thought wrong.

You thought.....gave your opinion....was wrong....then prefaced it with for what its worth. So short correct answer should have been....You didn't know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

SW and WM is on the schedule for 4/25. WM and St A's played a pre-season scrimmage. I THINK WM won by two late goals but I'm not certain. Of course it was a scrimmage so take it for what it's worth. I would like to see a mid-season match up.

You thought wrong.

You thought.....gave your opinion....was wrong....then prefaced it with for what its worth. So short correct answer should have been....You didn't know

So I got to the game after the half. The score board was not being used. I asked several fellow SA parents and got a few different scores. Based on the most popular answer given, WM won by 2. You are right, I don’t know for certain and apparently several others didn’t either. If SA actually won, great. But again it’s a scrimmage, so ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does WM play St Ants
Or Smithtown W this year?

SW and WM is on the schedule for 4/25. WM and St A's played a pre-season scrimmage. I THINK WM won by two late goals but I'm not certain. Of course it was a scrimmage so take it for what it's worth. I would like to see a mid-season match up.

You thought wrong.

You thought.....gave your opinion....was wrong....then prefaced it with for what its worth. So short correct answer should have been....You didn't know

Who cares what you.......think.

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

Few things
If St. Anthony's isn't ducking LI team's, it sure seems like it. Why play 4 Ct teams and announce next year headed to NC.
Scratch the scrimmage and make it official.
They do have a few super Sophs not just one
Haverford 5-3, only 1 win is a winning team

St As ducking teams? Guy, really. Look at their schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Few things
If St. Anthony's isn't ducking LI team's, it sure seems like it. Why play 4 Ct teams and announce next year headed to NC.
Scratch the scrimmage and make it official.
They do have a few super Sophs not just one
Haverford 5-3, only 1 win is a winning team

What team is your son on and what does their schedule look like? Take his schedule and compare it to the schedule St. Anthony's plays. You really believe they are ducking teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

finally someone calling them out for their "off Island) week schedule

Yorktown - Delbarton - Haverford - New Canaan - FAIRFIELD PREP- Darien - Niskayuna

it's as if they don't want to be challenged

The statement with SA was ducking LI teams. They have a strong schedule, no doubt, but lack the current LI power public's. They do have perrenial powers Manhassett and Syosett , not their fault they aren't a top team the past couple years. they usually schedule WM for a preseason scrimmage. Since their schedule is a last minute project why not flip some scrimmages and in seasons. To ensure the strongest are scheduled.

As far as the WM WI game, close yes, but that's the holiday week trap game. They survived. Let's see how the Contq HHE SW games goes. Then another trap game to end the season.

Club vs town.
Although Club has gotten out of control and towns need to get the boys for two tournya a summer. I am not sure you can name 4 top guys on many teams that aren't associated to a club team. A few towns do that the right way, but let's be clear noone keeps the better players from the $clubs.

PAL
Remember where it started and have those HS boys (especially star players) give some time back to the youth teams. If it wasn't a positive experience for yours then don't let that happen to these young kids. Get involved. Driving by practice pop in, if just to say hello and give some high fives. (Regardless if public or private HS player)

HS
Get involved with youth programs, Best way is getting the boys to be ball boys 4/5/6th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The statement with SA was ducking LI teams. They have a strong schedule, no doubt, but lack the current LI power public's. They do have perrenial powers Manhassett and Syosett , not their fault they aren't a top team the past couple years. they usually schedule WM for a preseason scrimmage. Since their schedule is a last minute project why not flip some scrimmages and in seasons. To ensure the strongest are scheduled.

As far as the WM WI game, close yes, but that's the holiday week trap game. They survived. Let's see how the Contq HHE SW games goes. Then another trap game to end the season.

Club vs town.
Although Club has gotten out of control and towns need to get the boys for two tournya a summer. I am not sure you can name 4 top guys on many teams that aren't associated to a club team. A few towns do that the right way, but let's be clear noone keeps the better players from the $clubs.

PAL
Remember where it started and have those HS boys (especially star players) give some time back to the youth teams. If it wasn't a positive experience for yours then don't let that happen to these young kids. Get involved. Driving by practice pop in, if just to say hello and give some high fives. (Regardless if public or private HS player)

HS
Get involved with youth programs, Best way is getting the boys to be ball boys 4/5/6th graders.

Sooooo...

Close public game=trap game. Are there trap games for the top ranked catholics or do they get criticized for only winning by 2-3 goals (see 261968)
What town "does that the right way". The best players from the towns all play club.
PAL...not a bad idea
Enjoy your day

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Your obsession with this kid and your conclusion that his father somehow controls all the press the kid gets is silly and borderline creepy, Please tell us what horrible things this kid and or his father has done to your son and or family that you are so concerned. My son has played against him many times and thinks he is a GREAT player.

So your point about Northport being terrible, just curious but do you lay the blame purely on the coaching or the level of talent as well? This is a team that weeks before took Hills East to the limit and should have won that game but lost win 10 seconds left. Is it just the coaching or are they week all over the place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Just got off the Phone with Joe Lombardi - he wants to know who you are, he is very interested to find out who the stunad is that reads pay subscription blogs and then posts it anonymously on another site while completely missing that point of the article. jealous much?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Your obsession with this kid and your conclusion that his father somehow controls all the press the kid gets is silly and borderline creepy, Please tell us what horrible things this kid and or his father has done to your son and or family that you are so concerned. My son has played against him many times and thinks he is a GREAT player.

Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The statement with SA was ducking LI teams. They have a strong schedule, no doubt, but lack the current LI power public's. They do have perrenial powers Manhassett and Syosett , not their fault they aren't a top team the past couple years. they usually schedule WM for a preseason scrimmage. Since their schedule is a last minute project why not flip some scrimmages and in seasons. To ensure the strongest are scheduled.

As far as the WM WI game, close yes, but that's the holiday week trap game. They survived. Let's see how the Contq HHE SW games goes. Then another trap game to end the season.

Club vs town.
Although Club has gotten out of control and towns need to get the boys for two tournya a summer. I am not sure you can name 4 top guys on many teams that aren't associated to a club team. A few towns do that the right way, but let's be clear noone keeps the better players from the $clubs.

PAL
Remember where it started and have those HS boys (especially star players) give some time back to the youth teams. If it wasn't a positive experience for yours then don't let that happen to these young kids. Get involved. Driving by practice pop in, if just to say hello and give some high fives. (Regardless if public or private HS player)

HS
Get involved with youth programs, Best way is getting the boys to be ball boys 4/5/6th graders.

Why is club out of control?

What towns do it the right way?

You do know that most teams pull up their best talent from JV. Northport has a tendency of not doing that and there are always good kids who should be playing varsity but the genius coach doesn't bring them up. So going undefeated on JV is not as impressive as you may think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So your point about Northport being terrible, just curious but do you lay the blame purely on the coaching or the level of talent as well? This is a team that weeks before took Hills East to the limit and should have won that game but lost win 10 seconds left. Is it just the coaching or are they week all over the place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So your point about Northport being terrible, just curious but do you lay the blame purely on the coaching or the level of talent as well? This is a team that weeks before took Hills East to the limit and should have won that game but lost win 10 seconds left. Is it just the coaching or are they week all over the place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Northport has one of the Biggest PAL Programs on Long Island. They have 2 Middle schools that usually do very well. They have 2 JV teams with their JV 1 almost always going undefeated or only losing 1 or 2 games a year. They get to Varsity and they always under preform and this year flat out stink losing 13 -1 to SW and 15-11 to Riverhead how lost to BBP. Watch them play, they don't move the ball at all. It's all 1v1 dodging/redodging, It looks like LAX from the 80's. Read this and tell me were the problem is. It's not just this year it's every year.

BTW - Their Girls teams are better but could argue they also under preform. They have graduated some of the best College players and only have 1 State Championship. This year's team is stacked with 11 D1 players. Anything short of a Suffolk, LI or State Championship will be a disappointment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI Boys lost another tight one to Pensfield
Looks like a few kids need to step up

Good time! Good time!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Just got off the Phone with Joe Lombardi - he wants to know who you are, he is very interested to find out who the stunad is that reads pay subscription blogs and then posts it anonymously on another site while completely missing that point of the article. jealous much?

What was the point of the article. A kid scores the most incredible HS goal ever seen and the kid who throws the inbounds pass gets the ink. Lol. I think that people are just tired of the self promotion. Kids a good kid and a good player yet he gets the ink over the kid that actually scores the greatest HS goal. What school is the kid who scored the goal going to and what's his number.

So, it's the offense, correct and the coaching, is that what you are saying? Just trying to understand, cause i looked at the stats of games and the defense seems pretty good. But the shot differential is very big in every game and Northport is on the negative side. Like the SW game, the shots were 31-9 which is ridiculous. The game was 13-1 so do the math. The goalie made 18 saves and the defense likely had the ball in their zone the bulk of the team to have so many shots on them. So yeah, I see the problem. You have an offense that doesn't know how to play together and likely that starts at the coaching level. If they are talented at the JV level, their is no reason why they shouldn't do well at the varsity level but if you aren't being coached and taught and running plays in this division, you aren't going to succeed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So your point about Northport being terrible, just curious but do you lay the blame purely on the coaching or the level of talent as well? This is a team that weeks before took Hills East to the limit and should have won that game but lost win 10 seconds left. Is it just the coaching or are they week all over the place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Northport has one of the Biggest PAL Programs on Long Island. They have 2 Middle schools that usually do very well. They have 2 JV teams with their JV 1 almost always going undefeated or only losing 1 or 2 games a year. They get to Varsity and they always under preform and this year flat out stink losing 13 -1 to SW and 15-11 to Riverhead how lost to BBP. Watch them play, they don't move the ball at all. It's all 1v1 dodging/redodging, It looks like LAX from the 80's. Read this and tell me were the problem is. It's not just this year it's every year.

BTW - Their Girls teams are better but could argue they also under preform. They have graduated some of the best College players and only have 1 State Championship. This year's team is stacked with 11 D1 players. Anything short of a Suffolk, LI or State Championship will be a disappointment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Just got off the Phone with Joe Lombardi - he wants to know who you are, he is very interested to find out who the stunad is that reads pay subscription blogs and then posts it anonymously on another site while completely missing that point of the article. jealous much?

What was the point of the article. A kid scores the most incredible HS goal ever seen and the kid who throws the inbounds pass gets the ink. Lol. I think that people are just tired of the self promotion. Kids a good kid and a good player yet he gets the ink over the kid that actually scores the greatest HS goal. What school is the kid who scored the goal going to and what's his number.

Kid that scored the goal is going to West Point and wears #1, and he also thinks your creepy obsession with his teammate and his teammates father is over the top....let it go Petro, he's just not that into Hopkins anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's talk about this particular article in Lacrosse Insider. It was covering the Ward Melville vs Chaminade game which we all already know the outcome.

The title of the article :

This is one of the most incredible HS goals we have ever seen. I was hooked by the title right away. I wanted more had to click on it.

What's amazing about the article is the player who threw the inbounds pass. Remember the inbounds pass lol. Gets more ink and detailed write up than the player that actually scored the goal. This is the article below. After reading something just doesn't seem right here.

"The play; with Chaminade having possession of the ball with 5.9 seconds left in the half, trailing Ward Melville 7-4, Chaminade coach Jack CoachMor called for timeout.

The Flyers' (players name) who is headed to Yale after decommitting from John's Hopkins and who wears the prestigious No.19 this season, cleanly fed the inbounds pass to (players name)with about two seconds to go.

"(Players name) knowing he didn't have time to set and shoot, fired a spectacular over the shoulder behind the back shot that got past WM goalie with no time left on the clock."

Just think about it the player who scored the so called, "One of the most incredible HS goals we've seen "just gets a brief mention. Yet the kid who threw the inbounds pass gets all the ink. His number, school he decommitted from and where he's going.

Daddy making sure he gets recognition any way he can.

Did he get the assist?

Lot of parity at the hs level this year. Will be interesting to see how it ends.

Total Points - Can someone tell me how this is calculated and the weight it holds? Looking at Section IX and teams with better W/L records are lower in the standings. How is it calculated and is that the top factor for determining playoffs? Sorry for the NewB question, but searched a few places and found nothing.
Thanks in advance

Not according to Newsday, Lol

For Sext IX not sure, but for XI or any league don't worry now, worry in a few weeks. After 10 games in. It will fluxuate with teams winning and losing to higher ranked teams. The only number to worry about is 8 wins.

For Class A

Sect XI site ranking holds weight for the playoff picture, but it is to soon to make heads or tails of it right now. You have to have the teams cycle through at least half the games to figure out the 5-10. Top 4 will probably remain the top 4 whether or not they remain in the spot currently in.

I doubt Whitman amd Smithtown East will stay that high. Or Northport and Commack that low. West Islip moves up one.

Another battle for the last 4 spots out of 6 teams. If the bracket only takes 11 teams. Advantage teams with current ranking.
Bay Shore
Lindy
Riverhead
Sachems
Smithtown East
Whitman

Lindy is a product of their easy schedule, should get a lot of wins. Will that hurt the rankings. Riverhead is a must win. West Islip a reach. Still might be the first of that group to get in.

Whitemen high current rank will help. West Islip and Riverhead games are huge.

Riverhead will play Whitmen, should win. But Commack and Smithtown East game are big. Should take 2/3. West Islip loss hurts unless WI does damage. Should be next in.

Smithtown East is headed into Must win month thru 4/28.

Bay Shore and the Sachems won't get to play Lindy or Whitmen and that could come back to bite them. Gotta take care of business against each other and try and steal a game. Bay Shore's Commack Loss hurts unless Commack does damage. Sachem North's Northport loss hurts.

Lax Power also has an interesting rankings that I could see. Probably gives a truer picture. Maybe swap Huntington and West Islip. And Riverhead and Commack and Lindy and Bay Shore.

Who will win WI or Brentwood

Typo. Meant section xi. Thanks for clarification

in case you missed it. Uniondale is UNDEFEATED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

in case you missed it. Uniondale is UNDEFEATED

as is Clarke, Oyster bay and Plainedge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typo. Meant section xi. Thanks for clarification

Never know, but Monroe Woodbury is the big school up in 9. CBA could field a team to compete

Won't get to Div II today... still confused on the split. tougher than A to lay out particularly this early. And if only 6 teams for B and 6 for C are picked and 1 from D. I'll take Babylon in the smaller size?

But these are who I like in this order.
Harborfields - tough kids, tough to rule out.
Islip - like the players, got a bit of everything, and the It factor.
Mt Sinai - look out for them.
East Islip - has something
Hate to like ESM as much as I do. Will see what today brings. Like them over SWR
SWR/Hills west - should be in the mix missing a few pieces may may not hurt. West's scores against Port was impressive. Both young.

"But these are who I like in this order.
Harborfields - tough kids, tough to rule out.
Islip - like the players, got a bit of everything, and the It factor.
Mt Sinai - look out for them.
East Islip - has something
Hate to like ESM as much as I do. Will see what today brings. Like them over SWR
SWR/Hills west - should be in the mix missing a few pieces may may not hurt. West's scores against Port was impressive. Both young."

Hate to be critical, but the editorial comments associated with each team are as close to useless as any I've seen on here.

Islip has a VERY strong team this year. Class of Suffolk B/C

I'd expect Islip vs. CSH in LI Championship with the Buccaneers continuing on upstate...

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Not true, Black Ice kids dominate. It's the other kids who aren't helping out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Not true, Black Ice kids dominate. It's the other kids who aren't helping out.

How do you define dominate? Team is 1-3, would be 1-4 if SS game was not rescheduled.

What stat are you using to define dominate? Oh, Style Points?

I get you now... your right!

So sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who will win WI or Brentwood

How is the Brentwood goalie that was taken off after getting hit in the chest by a shot?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

It seems Port is finally going to put the smack down on Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

So true 100% accurate!!!! Going to be and is a long season for Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

They play St Anthony’s on Thursday. Let's see if the Black Ice boys can bring home a win. St Anthony’s seems to be clicking right now. Should be a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

They play St Anthony’s on Thursday. Let's see if the Black Ice boys can bring home a win. St Anthony’s seems to be clicking right now. Should be a good game.

st Anthony's by at at least 8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

And the HC and his horrible assistants Don’t even realize they are losing the kids on this team. They have taken the entire desire to play away from these kids with their head games. Since he is trying to make the team an extension of igloo He should just go coach club and quit. What a disgrace he and his Assisstant are. I hope all those parents that fought for him to stay on are really happy with there efforts. The entire coaching staff needs to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

They play St Anthony’s on Thursday. Let's see if the Black Ice boys can bring home a win. St Anthony’s seems to be clicking right now. Should be a good game.

Well, the cupcake portion of their season starts soon, so the Daddies can puff their chests out, for a few weeks anyway.

Enjoy.

I guess its easier to blame the coach, blame the freshman players on the team for an entire team loss. I guess it's 100% accurate that its the players from Igloo are losing the games for Syosset. I mean god forbid there are 30 plus players on the team that should be held accountable in practices and in games for stepping up. The coach wants to lose, wants to play favorites, doesn't want to put the best kids in, and wants everyone to complain. Sounds like you all know exactly what your talking about from a very narrow minded self centered, helicopter parent point of view. If your son is better he will play. If your son proves himself in practices and in games then he will play. If your son isn't playing enough I guess its easier to hide here and take cheap shots because you are extremely passive aggressive individual that would rather make excuses and put blame then actually see the truth. So here it is: if you want your son to play then they have to work harder, play smarter, execute more then other players. Its that simple, any other complaint is not helping your son. In fact your teaching him to be a poison to himself and others. And that is not how to build a team. Team mates want others to be successful, because its a true team sport that requires all players to play together and well, in order to win games. If your not a part of making the group a team, then your against the team. That is how simple it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

Don't be jealous your son is a bench warmer.

St Ants a very good Long Island team as well yet just happens that there are at least 3 to 4 better teams this year on the island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

They play St Anthony’s on Thursday. Let's see if the Black Ice boys can bring home a win. St Anthony’s seems to be clicking right now. Should be a good game.

It will not be a good game!!! It will be total st Anthony’s whooping!!

WI did a good job attending to him and had the equipment needed to help him until the ambulance arrived.

Hope the goalie is ok was conscious when he left it was a scary moment for sure.

Stop with the black ice boys. None are a factor and NONE belong on the varsity other than the one middie that plays for Manhasset. The lone Syosset win was an extreme outlier for them.

Same black ice team that lost the wysl to kids a few months older aND complained that it was an injustice? This 2 and 3 years older kids, good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess its easier to blame the coach, blame the freshman players on the team for an entire team loss. I guess it's 100% accurate that its the players from Igloo are losing the games for Syosset. I mean god forbid there are 30 plus players on the team that should be held accountable in practices and in games for stepping up. The coach wants to lose, wants to play favorites, doesn't want to put the best kids in, and wants everyone to complain. Sounds like you all know exactly what your talking about from a very narrow minded self centered, helicopter parent point of view. If your son is better he will play. If your son proves himself in practices and in games then he will play. If your son isn't playing enough I guess its easier to hide here and take cheap shots because you are extremely passive aggressive individual that would rather make excuses and put blame then actually see the truth. So here it is: if you want your son to play then they have to work harder, play smarter, execute more then other players. Its that simple, any other complaint is not helping your son. In fact your teaching him to be a poison to himself and others. And that is not how to build a team. Team mates want others to be successful, because its a true team sport that requires all players to play together and well, in order to win games. If your not a part of making the group a team, then your against the team. That is how simple it is.

Thanks for the dissertation AA.

Hurry up a deposit those checks now before the bank closes.

Syosset, Port Wash, Locust Valley...................Hah Hah!

Ugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems that the Igloo Nation in Syosset is not getting it done.

That’s how it goes when HC plays money ball.

Sad.

Completely accurate. What an embarrassment and HC doesn’t think all the parents are talking about this and see what he’s doing for his Igloo Boss.
If he keeps making changes to his lineups just to get those igloo kids time on the field, this will be Syosset’s worst season. Not one of those kids is a dominant, stand out player. No one plays mental games with their players better than him.

They play St Anthony’s on Thursday. Let's see if the Black Ice boys can bring home a win. St Anthony’s seems to be clicking right now. Should be a good game.

Hard to do with no FOGO, no goalie, and only one decent Middie. Attack is a joke as well.

GB King way, way overrated. More like the Burger King.

Well, the cupcake portion of their season starts soon, so the Daddies can puff their chests out, for a few weeks anyway.

Enjoy.

Well your ST Doms entire season is CUPCAKE oh that's right the coach handpicks games so kids can put up inflated numbers. There isn't a bigger fraud or carpetbagger on the island public or private. Don't deny the prior comment isn't from the clan itself.

Ya think Northport can turn it around and make the playoffs? They've been playing without there top D pole since the Hills game. So they got smacked by Smithtown West. Who doesn't get smacked by Smithtown West. They have a big game tomorrow vs. Smithtown East. That i think is a big game for both teams, especially Northport. That one they have to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Class A

Sect XI site ranking holds weight for the playoff picture, but it is to soon to make heads or tails of it right now. You have to have the teams cycle through at least half the games to figure out the 5-10. Top 4 will probably remain the top 4 whether or not they remain in the spot currently in.

I doubt Whitman amd Smithtown East will stay that high. Or Northport and Commack that low. West Islip moves up one.

Another battle for the last 4 spots out of 6 teams. If the bracket only takes 11 teams. Advantage teams with current ranking.
Bay Shore
Lindy
Riverhead
Sachems
Smithtown East
Whitman

Lindy is a product of their easy schedule, should get a lot of wins. Will that hurt the rankings. Riverhead is a must win. West Islip a reach. Still might be the first of that group to get in.

Whitemen high current rank will help. West Islip and Riverhead games are huge.

Riverhead will play Whitmen, should win. But Commack and Smithtown East game are big. Should take 2/3. West Islip loss hurts unless WI does damage. Should be next in.

Smithtown East is headed into Must win month thru 4/28.

Bay Shore and the Sachems won't get to play Lindy or Whitmen and that could come back to bite them. Gotta take care of business against each other and try and steal a game. Bay Shore's Commack Loss hurts unless Commack does damage. Sachem North's Northport loss hurts.

Lax Power also has an interesting rankings that I could see. Probably gives a truer picture. Maybe swap Huntington and West Islip. And Riverhead and Commack and Lindy and Bay Shore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess its easier to blame the coach, blame the freshman players on the team for an entire team loss. I guess it's 100% accurate that its the players from Igloo are losing the games for Syosset. I mean god forbid there are 30 plus players on the team that should be held accountable in practices and in games for stepping up. The coach wants to lose, wants to play favorites, doesn't want to put the best kids in, and wants everyone to complain. Sounds like you all know exactly what your talking about from a very narrow minded self centered, helicopter parent point of view. If your son is better he will play. If your son proves himself in practices and in games then he will play. If your son isn't playing enough I guess its easier to hide here and take cheap shots because you are extremely passive aggressive individual that would rather make excuses and put blame then actually see the truth. So here it is: if you want your son to play then they have to work harder, play smarter, execute more then other players. Its that simple, any other complaint is not helping your son. In fact your teaching him to be a poison to himself and others. And that is not how to build a team. Team mates want others to be successful, because its a true team sport that requires all players to play together and well, in order to win games. If your not a part of making the group a team, then your against the team. That is how simple it is.

While I agree with your post in theory, the problem is perception. If the HC was not affiliated with a travel program and he was playing a bunch of 9th graders while the team was losing, you can question his judgement but not his motives. like when a coach has a kid on the team. From what I have seen the 9th graders are neither the problem nor the solution for this years team. But the perception could be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess its easier to blame the coach, blame the freshman players on the team for an entire team loss. I guess it's 100% accurate that its the players from Igloo are losing the games for Syosset. I mean god forbid there are 30 plus players on the team that should be held accountable in practices and in games for stepping up. The coach wants to lose, wants to play favorites, doesn't want to put the best kids in, and wants everyone to complain. Sounds like you all know exactly what your talking about from a very narrow minded self centered, helicopter parent point of view. If your son is better he will play. If your son proves himself in practices and in games then he will play. If your son isn't playing enough I guess its easier to hide here and take cheap shots because you are extremely passive aggressive individual that would rather make excuses and put blame then actually see the truth. So here it is: if you want your son to play then they have to work harder, play smarter, execute more then other players. Its that simple, any other complaint is not helping your son. In fact your teaching him to be a poison to himself and others. And that is not how to build a team. Team mates want others to be successful, because its a true team sport that requires all players to play together and well, in order to win games. If your not a part of making the group a team, then your against the team. That is how simple it is.

While I agree with your post in theory, the problem is perception. If the HC was not affiliated with a travel program and he was playing a bunch of 9th graders while the team was losing, you can question his judgement but not his motives. like when a coach has a kid on the team. From what I have seen the 9th graders are neither the problem nor the solution for this years team. But the perception could be.

In Syosset, money talks and talent and hard work walks.... usually to Chaminade, St. Anthony's or St. Dominics.

JC & Company need to go. They are too distracted trying to get their own kids recruited.

Syo needs to get dedicated professional coaches, not guys mailing it in while raking in $$ with their summer camp programs and travel directorships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Syosset, money talks and talent and hard work walks.... usually to Chaminade, St. Anthony's or St. Dominics.

Hahahahaha - seems like a lot but it was really only 3 families (lucawhatevers, Burke and Speranza's) yest that was 10 very good players but that is history now, I can not think of any players they have lost to St A's (I don't think Raffa lived in Syosset when started at St A's) and the two good players from St Dominic's are back at Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JC & Company need to go. They are too distracted trying to get their own kids recruited.

Syo needs to get dedicated professional coaches, not guys mailing it in while raking in $$ with their summer camp programs and travel directorships.

HS lacrosse is a part time job and you parents think that it is so much more than that but in reality, that is all it is. parents in virtually any other town would be thrilled to have a coach put in that much time 11 months a year every year as your coach does. Yeah he makes money coaching and with the camp and his travel teams but the amount of time and effort he puts into this program is second to none. This does not mean you like him or respect his coaching ability but you can not question his work ethic for this program. The one thing that he has excelled at over the years is getting his players onto college teams, and not the All Americans that didn't need him but the average players that needed it the most. believe me, when this job does open up their is not going to be a big pile of resumes to go through, no reputable quality coach is going to want to deal with you parents no matter how much money you throw at them.

chaminade, st anthonys and doms....what doesn't belong? didn't you retire your cowboy boots and duster?

What a deflection. Obviously people are upset with the syosset coaches but you try and change the narrative to something that has absolutely nothing to do with the problems in your town. You have a really unhealthy obsession.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Syosset, money talks and talent and hard work walks.... usually to Chaminade, St. Anthony's or St. Dominics.

Hahahahaha - seems like a lot but it was really only 3 families (lucawhatevers, Burke and Speranza's) yest that was 10 very good players but that is history now, I can not think of any players they have lost to St A's (I don't think Raffa lived in Syosset when started at St A's) and the two good players from St Dominic's are back at Syosset.

What 2 good players? If they were good they would not have come back to Syosset.

Heck of a game watching HHHW play East Islip. Hills with the Come from behind from a 5 point deficit and forced overtime and won it 11-10. It will be on Fios1 at 3 on Saturday.

I think the original post reads as if they Nport will make the playoffs, (northport commack West islip are probably #5-7.) are you questioning this? and saying they wont make playoffs? and are you saying this because of one player, one player doesnt make that happen. When will he be back?

Big games tomorrow for teams in A maybe a foreshadow of playoffs:
Quott vs Ward Melville
HHHE v SmithW
WIslip v CMack
Nport v SmithE

Sachem E v BShore
Whit v Hunt

Leading to bigger games Saturday, or games could let division shale out.

Lindy v HHHE
Nport v BShore
SmithE v Rivr

SmithW v Sachem E
WIslip v Hunt
Melville V Whitmn

Season is getting exciting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ya think Northport can turn it around and make the playoffs? They've been playing without there top D pole since the Hills game. So they got smacked by Smithtown West. Who doesn't get smacked by Smithtown West. They have a big game tomorrow vs. Smithtown East. That i think is a big game for both teams, especially Northport. That one they have to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Class A

Sect XI site ranking holds weight for the playoff picture, but it is to soon to make heads or tails of it right now. You have to have the teams cycle through at least half the games to figure out the 5-10. Top 4 will probably remain the top 4 whether or not they remain in the spot currently in.

I doubt Whitman amd Smithtown East will stay that high. Or Northport and Commack that low. West Islip moves up one.

Another battle for the last 4 spots out of 6 teams. If the bracket only takes 11 teams. Advantage teams with current ranking.
Bay Shore
Lindy
Riverhead
Sachems
Smithtown East
Whitman

Lindy is a product of their easy schedule, should get a lot of wins. Will that hurt the rankings. Riverhead is a must win. West Islip a reach. Still might be the first of that group to get in.

Whitemen high current rank will help. West Islip and Riverhead games are huge.

Riverhead will play Whitmen, should win. But Commack and Smithtown East game are big. Should take 2/3. West Islip loss hurts unless WI does damage. Should be next in.

Smithtown East is headed into Must win month thru 4/28.

Bay Shore and the Sachems won't get to play Lindy or Whitmen and that could come back to bite them. Gotta take care of business against each other and try and steal a game. Bay Shore's Commack Loss hurts unless Commack does damage. Sachem North's Northport loss hurts.

Lax Power also has an interesting rankings that I could see. Probably gives a truer picture. Maybe swap Huntington and West Islip. And Riverhead and Commack and Lindy and Bay Shore.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Heck of a game watching HHHW play East Islip. Hills with the Come from behind from a 5 point deficit and forced overtime and won it 11-10. It will be on Fios1 at 3 on Saturday.

Comsewogue handles Harborfields
SWR doubles up ESM
ISlip by 1 over Mt Sinai

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Heck of a game watching HHHW play East Islip. Hills with the Come from behind from a 5 point deficit and forced overtime and won it 11-10. It will be on Fios1 at 3 on Saturday.

Comsewogue handles Harborfields
SWR doubles up ESM
ISlip by 1 over Mt Sinai

This is going to be a fun season to watch this division. Every game will be important.

I don't think it was about one player but more about the trashing Northport has been taking on here. The coach has been getting ripped heavily as well as people just stating how bad they are. So they got beat up by Smithtown West pretty badly. That's one game. Give me another game they have played that has been so bad? The are right in the thick of things and I think aside from SW and WM, the landscape is pretty competitive this year so ya never know who is going to end up where. So I think way to early to say they won't make the playoffs. They have a big game today vs. SE and Bayshore on the weekend. Both I think will be very competitive games and can go either way.

[quote=Anonymous]I think the original post reads as if they Nport will make the playoffs, (northport commack West islip are probably #5-7.) are you questioning this? and saying they wont make playoffs? and are you saying this because of one player, one player doesnt make that happen. When will he be back?

Big games tomorrow for teams in A maybe a foreshadow of playoffs:
Quott vs Ward Melville
HHHE v SmithW
WIslip v CMack
Nport v SmithE

Sachem E v BShore
Whit v Hunt

Leading to bigger games Saturday, or games could let division shale out.

Lindy v HHHE
Nport v BShore
SmithE v Rivr

SmithW v Sachem E
WIslip v Hunt
Melville V Whitmn

Just about every coach that has ever been ripped on here is by a Daddy that's upset with his son's lack of playing time. Look in the mirror Daddy, he's just not that good and neither were you.

1. Ward Melville
2. SW
3.Conn
4.HHHE
5.WI
6.Commack
7.Riverhead
8.Northport
9. Smithtown east
10.Hunt
11.Bayshore

After 6 who knows but I can see this being the seeds at end of the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about every coach that has ever been ripped on here is by a Daddy that's upset with his son's lack of playing time. Look in the mirror Daddy, he's just not that good and neither were you.

Thanks for that Coach!

Good luck with your Summer Town Program and Travel Team stuff.

Why not do the right thing and step down and let a non biased coach with no conflict have a chance. You can then focus 100% on your Capoop businesses.

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

please explain this, I am not sure what you mean, are you implying that the 2015 Syosset team that won the LIC might be better than the 2018 team that started the year 1-3? if that is what you are saying, you are a very clever poster, If I was you, I would put away your shine box and become a full time anonymous poster .......you are that good

So they got beat up by SW. Yup lack of a cohesive offense will do that to you, plus not winning a ton of faceoffs. Shot differential was pretty ugly The Riverhead game was non-league so does it really matter. Coach played a lot of kids who usually doesn't an that aside the starting goalie was hurt so 15-11 wasn't so bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So your point about Northport being terrible, just curious but do you lay the blame purely on the coaching or the level of talent as well? This is a team that weeks before took Hills East to the limit and should have won that game but lost win 10 seconds left. Is it just the coaching or are they week all over the place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how St Anthony's will never play Smithtown or Ward Melville as a regular season NL game.

They will play anybody, the coach wants the school to be recognized as a national program. It is the public schools likely don't want to play them or there isn't enough room on the schedule. They play Yorktown, Manhasset, Syosset, Niscayuna, Staples, New Canaan, and yeah, Darien, this year alone. Have your opinion about the public school talent vs Catholic, fine it make's debates fun, but don't say "funny"like they are ducking teams.

For Some Reason, which I don't know, Suffolk Section 11 only allows 2 out of section games a year. WM played LS and Cham. WI played Farm and Pen, SW only played 1 GC. SE played MASS. SWR play GC and Pleasantville. Only a few Public's can hang with StA, I also think they the Publics don't want to expose there kids to St As if fear of losing some of there younger kids to them in the future.

I watched SW vs NPT. SW is very good and the SW/WM game is going to be awesome. NPT is terrible. JVs were undefeated 2 years in a row so you think they would be better. They are also undefeated this year. The AD should look to promote the JV Coach and send the Varsity coach down to the PAL Level.

Northport has one of the Biggest PAL Programs on Long Island. They have 2 Middle schools that usually do very well. They have 2 JV teams with their JV 1 almost always going undefeated or only losing 1 or 2 games a year. They get to Varsity and they always under preform and this year flat out stink losing 13 -1 to SW and 15-11 to Riverhead how lost to BBP. Watch them play, they don't move the ball at all. It's all 1v1 dodging/redodging, It looks like LAX from the 80's. Read this and tell me were the problem is. It's not just this year it's every year.

BTW - Their Girls teams are better but could argue they also under preform. They have graduated some of the best College players and only have 1 State Championship. This year's team is stacked with 11 D1 players. Anything short of a Suffolk, LI or State Championship will be a disappointment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

please explain this, I am not sure what you mean, are you implying that the 2015 Syosset team that won the LIC might be better than the 2018 team that started the year 1-3? if that is what you are saying, you are a very clever poster, If I was you, I would put away your shine box and become a full time anonymous poster .......you are that good

Maybe they have underwear scandal again!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

please explain this, I am not sure what you mean, are you implying that the 2015 Syosset team that won the LIC might be better than the 2018 team that started the year 1-3? if that is what you are saying, you are a very clever poster, If I was you, I would put away your shine box and become a full time anonymous poster .......you are that good

Maybe they have underwear scandal again!!!

they can get Captain Underpants head wrapz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

The one that will be slapped around by 10 goals.

16-6 Friars ... take it to the bank.

Shouldn't catholic All Star Teams like the Big 2 on Long Island beat every town team they play? They are pulling the best players from 14-15 different towns and parents would be fools to send their kids to those teams if they weren't any good. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers would no doubt get lots of minutes on most of their town teams. There are plenty of players that have left the catholics, went home and became starters. When these teams lose to town programs its an indictment of the coaching and lack of cohesion. Too many generals and not enough foot soldiers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Ward Melville
2. SW
3.Conn
4.HHHE
5.WI
6.Commack
7.Riverhead
8.Northport
9. Smithtown east
10.Hunt
11.Bayshore

After 6 who knows but I can see this being the seeds at end of the season

I wouldn't put Huntington that low. New coach is awesome and has the players jelling.

Who can huntington beat ahead of them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

The one that will be slapped around by 10 goals.

16-6 Friars ... take it to the bank.

It might be more then 10 goals!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Syosset Team will show up today vs. St. Anthony's?

Too bad they can't bring the 2015 Team, that would be their only chance.

The one that will be slapped around by 10 goals.

16-6 Friars ... take it to the bank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't catholic All Star Teams like the Big 2 on Long Island beat every town team they play? They are pulling the best players from 14-15 different towns and parents would be fools to send their kids to those teams if they weren't any good. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers would no doubt get lots of minutes on most of their town teams. There are plenty of players that have left the catholics, went home and became starters. When these teams lose to town programs its an indictment of the coaching and lack of cohesion. Too many generals and not enough foot soldiers.

The big 2 are usually far deeper, but starters at good public safe just as good as starters at the Catholics. And most people sending their sons to Chaminade aren't doing so just for lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think it was about one player but more about the trashing Northport has been taking on here. The coach has been getting ripped heavily as well as people just stating how bad they are. So they got beat up by Smithtown West pretty badly. That's one game. Give me another game they have played that has been so bad? The are right in the thick of things and I think aside from SW and WM, the landscape is pretty competitive this year so ya never know who is going to end up where. So I think way to early to say they won't make the playoffs. They have a big game today vs. SE and Bayshore on the weekend. Both I think will be very competitive games and can go either way.

[quote=Anonymous]I think the original post reads as if they Nport will make the playoffs, (northport commack West islip are probably #5-7.) are you questioning this? and saying they wont make playoffs? and are you saying this because of one player, one player doesnt make that happen. When will he be back?

Big games tomorrow for teams in A maybe a foreshadow of playoffs:
Quott vs Ward Melville
HHHE v SmithW
WIslip v CMack
Nport v SmithE

Sachem E v BShore
Whit v Hunt

Leading to bigger games Saturday, or games could let division shale out.

Lindy v HHHE
Nport v BShore
SmithE v Rivr

SmithW v Sachem E
WIslip v Hunt
Melville V Whitmn

Todays Predictions
Quott 10-9
SW 14-7
Commack 13-11
Smith East 15-8
Sachem E 11-9
Hunt 14-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't catholic All Star Teams like the Big 2 on Long Island beat every town team they play? They are pulling the best players from 14-15 different towns and parents would be fools to send their kids to those teams if they weren't any good. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers would no doubt get lots of minutes on most of their town teams. There are plenty of players that have left the catholics, went home and became starters. When these teams lose to town programs its an indictment of the coaching and lack of cohesion. Too many generals and not enough foot soldiers.

The big 2 are usually far deeper, but starters at good public safe just as good as starters at the Catholics. And most people sending their sons to Chaminade aren't doing so just for lacrosse.

Plenty of starters at the publics are better than the starters at the Catholics. Pair that with a program that start putting teams together from 5 years old, and you build much more than a bunch of Alll stars. That is why a team like West Islip can do well even when they don't have any studs on the team. A team of well coached middle of the road players that work together can easily beat a team of studs who are looking to pad their stats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about every coach that has ever been ripped on here is by a Daddy that's upset with his son's lack of playing time. Look in the mirror Daddy, he's just not that good and neither were you.

I have heard it from many a coach's mouth that they will play the older player even if the younger player is a little better because he will get plenty of playing time next year and they don't want to hurt the older player's confidence. Not the good coaches, but it does happen.

Wow! St A’s is spanking Syosset. 4-0 in the 1st and Syosset doesn’t look like they can hang at all. Team speed is huge difference. Syosset looks really slow or St A is very fast. This may get really ugly if St A doesn’t put the brakes on

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

you took a survey ? you are full of it.

who says that they get the best players from 14-15 towns? just because you go to the catholic school and are on the team doesn't make you better than anyone else. absolute silliness mommy. ask GC if all their best players go to catholic school. dont lump your kid in with truly outstanding players because they too go to Chaminade or St Ants. you are embarrassing yourself. hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who says that they get the best players from 14-15 towns? just because you go to the catholic school and are on the team doesn't make you better than anyone else. absolute silliness mommy. ask GC if all their best players go to catholic school. dont lump your kid in with truly outstanding players because they too go to Chaminade or St Ants. you are embarrassing yourself. hammerhead.

So you pick one town with a good lacrosse program and academics to match. How many Suffolk kids have been driven by their parents to St Anthony's every day or worse yet a train ride to Chaminade? I can name lesser towns that have had many star players that have left to play private. Shall I name Bay Shore as one example? Penn State ring a bell? A kid already committed that did not need St Anthony's for exposure. There are hundreds of kids who leave home to be on a winner. Better yet. At the next catholic game count the number of players on the bench from the end of the substitution box to the 15 yard line and wonder how nice would it be to put the best 10 kids out there from two full bus loads (not to mention the hundred underclassmen waiting to be brought up to varsity). Stop with the nonsense, hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Ward Melville
2. SW
3.Conn
4.HHHE
5.WI
6.Commack
7.Riverhead
8.Northport
9. Smithtown east
10.Hunt
11.Bayshore

After 6 who knows but I can see this being the seeds at end of the season

I wouldn't put Huntington that low. New coach is awesome and has the players jelling.

Not Today
Huntington Playing a zone all game against a team that plays 4 Mids -BIG coaching mistake
3 Min Un releasable hit to WW Goalie cost them 4 Goals
WW Played well, Huntington is the better team, but that's why you play the game
These teams should play every year/Big crowd

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset, Port Wash, Locust Valley...................Hah Hah!

Ugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset, Port Wash, Locust Valley...................Hah Hah!

Ugh.

A few days later and I say it again..... Syo and Port W..... Bawhahhhhhawwww!!!as

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

Swap Huntington for Whitman especially after today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. Ward Melville
2. SW
3.Conn
4.HHHE
5.WI
6.Commack
7.Riverhead
8.Northport
9. Smithtown east
10.Hunt
11.Bayshore

After 6 who knows but I can see this being the seeds at end of the season

Hunt/Whitman out Lindy in? didnt that happen a few years back?
Big Win by Smithtown (both)!
Connettquot big week for them, next week!

and by the way its not after 6 its after 5, its all the same

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shouldn't catholic All Star Teams like the Big 2 on Long Island beat every town team they play? They are pulling the best players from 14-15 different towns and parents would be fools to send their kids to those teams if they weren't any good. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers would no doubt get lots of minutes on most of their town teams. There are plenty of players that have left the catholics, went home and became starters. When these teams lose to town programs its an indictment of the coaching and lack of cohesion. Too many generals and not enough foot soldiers.

The big 2 are usually far deeper, but starters at good public safe just as good as starters at the Catholics. And most people sending their sons to Chaminade aren't doing so just for lacrosse.

Plenty of starters at the publics are better than the starters at the Catholics. Pair that with a program that start putting teams together from 5 years old, and you build much more than a bunch of Alll stars. That is why a team like West Islip can do well even when they don't have any studs on the team. A team of well coached middle of the road players that work together can easily beat a team of studs who are looking to pad their stats.

not sure how much weight that holds, big 3 from Crush and many played together at DD. That 2020 class the more and more I look at it is tight. Couple that with those Terps and Legacy players. I think those boys have played with and against each other for some time now, squashes your town team playing together since 5 theory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

15-8 Final.

I guess St. Anthony's cleared their bench a bit early (like 2nd period), and that allowed Syo to make it seem close at the half. Not close in the 2nd 1/2 at all.

Nice Win for West Islip over Commack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

Joke in Syo was JC had the keys to a Turbo Charged Maserati and still couldn't win a state title. The state of affairs today, this team is a broken down Dodge Dart chugging along in the right lane. How can you expect him to "Coach Up" a team if he could never just "Coach" plus sprinkle in some conflict of interest and the season is a disaster. It will get funnier as the season goes into a stretch of real weak Conference A teams and he tries to manipulate certain kids getting points but all the while sacrificing the season because those kids won't help compete vs Pequa,Dalers or PW. The tarp is pulled off the * heap and he can't hide his crap any longer but be careful for what you wish for Syo because who would be crazy enough to take his job. All eyes are on you JC are you just going to continue the manipulation or do the right thing and prove to everyone that you are a principled coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

15-8 Final.

I guess St. Anthony's cleared their bench a bit early (like 2nd period), and that allowed Syo to make it seem close at the half. Not close in the 2nd 1/2 at all.

I’m no fan of Syosset, but I thought they played great in 2nd quarter. If you think it was never a game or that SA took out the starters you didn’t watch the game. SA just better, they put it together and ran away with it in the 2nd half. Syosset had way too many bad passes and dropped balls. But a lot of physical talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

15-8 Final.

I guess St. Anthony's cleared their bench a bit early (like 2nd period), and that allowed Syo to make it seem close at the half. Not close in the 2nd 1/2 at all.

I’m no fan of Syosset, but I thought they played great in 2nd quarter. If you think it was never a game or that SA took out the starters you didn’t watch the game. SA just better, they put it together and ran away with it in the 2nd half. Syosset had way too many bad passes and dropped balls. But a lot of physical talent.

Agree, if u watched the game then you know that starters were left in. Unless the big Penn State commit and Michigan commit, etc etc are not considered starters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

I guess they were in the game at 1-0 and 2-0... It was close because St. Anthony's hit 3 pipes in the 2nd and played sloppy in the 2nd. But my eye test makes me stupid I guess. 15-6 when the starters were pulled with 5 minutes left. I love how everyone blames coaches also (and I have as well) not saying I am better than all. These coaches have to deal with all this craziness, God bless them. Let theme coach and support them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

Joke in Syo was JC had the keys to a Turbo Charged Maserati and still couldn't win a state title. The state of affairs today, this team is a broken down Dodge Dart chugging along in the right lane. How can you expect him to "Coach Up" a team if he could never just "Coach" plus sprinkle in some conflict of interest and the season is a disaster. It will get funnier as the season goes into a stretch of real weak Conference A teams and he tries to manipulate certain kids getting points but all the while sacrificing the season because those kids won't help compete vs Pequa,Dalers or PW. The tarp is pulled off the * heap and he can't hide his crap any longer but be careful for what you wish for Syo because who would be crazy enough to take his job. All eyes are on you JC are you just going to continue the manipulation or do the right thing and prove to everyone that you are a principled coach.

Great analysis - totally agree.

The real joke however is that with all the Camp money and Directorship money JC collects, he actually could get himself a Turbocharged Maserati.

The joke is on you Syosset!

Bottom line, SA superior team. I actually thought the Syosset coach did a nice job after the disaster of the 1st quarter. But SA was just way more talented. Syosset looks like the 3rd place team in A after Pequa and Dalers. Port may be 3 too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

Joke in Syo was JC had the keys to a Turbo Charged Maserati and still couldn't win a state title. The state of affairs today, this team is a broken down Dodge Dart chugging along in the right lane. How can you expect him to "Coach Up" a team if he could never just "Coach" plus sprinkle in some conflict of interest and the season is a disaster. It will get funnier as the season goes into a stretch of real weak Conference A teams and he tries to manipulate certain kids getting points but all the while sacrificing the season because those kids won't help compete vs Pequa,Dalers or PW. The tarp is pulled off the * heap and he can't hide his crap any longer but be careful for what you wish for Syo because who would be crazy enough to take his job. All eyes are on you JC are you just going to continue the manipulation or do the right thing and prove to everyone that you are a principled coach.

Dear Syo Dad - there are 13 teams in Nassau A and 12 will not win the county championship but of those twelve I feel Syosset still has as good a chance of beating Massapequa as anyone, If you think that there are kids on the bench that could score better, defend better, face off better or stop the ball better then the kids out there you are entitled to your opinion but if you think that the HC is keeping kids on the bench to the detriment to the teams success I would disagree, if you think some of these kids are over hyped or not ready for varsity I can not argue with you based on the results so far but I if you think the HC is making decisions based on promoting kids I will respectfully disagree. Syosset coaching staff has never coached to win in March and April they coach to prepare the team for May and they have have a track record of being better in May than they are in March. Past teams need to be left in the past, yes Syosset has not won a State title but the '08 team and the '15 team lost to some pretty good teams and have nothing to be ashamed of. Lots of lacrosse still to be played and good luck to your son and all the boys on all the teams .

Anyone know how the Whitman game went last night?

This website is a forum for the cowardly anonymous to make claims (against mainly coaches) about being unprincipled, bad lacrosse tacticians, unfair, bad motivators, political, favoring their own kid if he's on the team, immoral, evil, profiteers, lucky, or any other negative connotation. When any objective observer can see right through the jealousy and/ or lack of objectivity about the skill level of their own kid by many of the "contributors" here. On this site, if people want to prognosticate (most BOTC posters will have to google that) about the level of play of teams or who will go deep in the playoffs or post a synopsis of games, that's fine. But to level unsubstantiated claims against individuals by people hiding behind their keyboard does a disservice to the very sport we love. And to all of the bystanders who read this stuff and have no knowledge of the situations being mentioned, know that the slanderers have an ax to grind and are hardly the innocent victims that they portray.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This website is a forum for the cowardly anonymous to make claims (against mainly coaches) about being unprincipled, bad lacrosse tacticians, unfair, bad motivators, political, favoring their own kid if he's on the team, immoral, evil, profiteers, lucky, or any other negative connotation. When any objective observer can see right through the jealousy and/ or lack of objectivity about the skill level of their own kid by many of the "contributors" here. On this site, if people want to prognosticate (most BOTC posters will have to google that) about the level of play of teams or who will go deep in the playoffs or post a synopsis of games, that's fine. But to level unsubstantiated claims against individuals by people hiding behind their keyboard does a disservice to the very sport we love. And to all of the bystanders who read this stuff and have no knowledge of the situations being mentioned, know that the slanderers have an ax to grind and are hardly the innocent victims that they portray.

Pretty spot on, I'd say

What happened to people having to register before posting? Wasn't that the direction this was going? Or was that discarded because no one would do it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This website is a forum for the cowardly anonymous to make claims (against mainly coaches) about being unprincipled, bad lacrosse tacticians, unfair, bad motivators, political, favoring their own kid if he's on the team, immoral, evil, profiteers, lucky, or any other negative connotation. When any objective observer can see right through the jealousy and/ or lack of objectivity about the skill level of their own kid by many of the "contributors" here. On this site, if people want to prognosticate (most BOTC posters will have to google that) about the level of play of teams or who will go deep in the playoffs or post a synopsis of games, that's fine. But to level unsubstantiated claims against individuals by people hiding behind their keyboard does a disservice to the very sport we love. And to all of the bystanders who read this stuff and have no knowledge of the situations being mentioned, know that the slanderers have an ax to grind and are hardly the innocent victims that they portray.

Pretty spot on, I'd say

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

What happened to people having to register before posting? Wasn't that the direction this was going? Or was that discarded because no one would do it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This website is a forum for the cowardly anonymous to make claims (against mainly coaches) about being unprincipled, bad lacrosse tacticians, unfair, bad motivators, political, favoring their own kid if he's on the team, immoral, evil, profiteers, lucky, or any other negative connotation. When any objective observer can see right through the jealousy and/ or lack of objectivity about the skill level of their own kid by many of the "contributors" here. On this site, if people want to prognosticate (most BOTC posters will have to google that) about the level of play of teams or who will go deep in the playoffs or post a synopsis of games, that's fine. But to level unsubstantiated claims against individuals by people hiding behind their keyboard does a disservice to the very sport we love. And to all of the bystanders who read this stuff and have no knowledge of the situations being mentioned, know that the slanderers have an ax to grind and are hardly the innocent victims that they portray.

Pretty spot on, I'd say

would help for sure. I guess the site owners have to weigh post volume vs. post quality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

15-8 Final.

I guess St. Anthony's cleared their bench a bit early (like 2nd period), and that allowed Syo to make it seem close at the half. Not close in the 2nd 1/2 at all.

I’m no fan of Syosset, but I thought they played great in 2nd quarter. If you think it was never a game or that SA took out the starters you didn’t watch the game. SA just better, they put it together and ran away with it in the 2nd half. Syosset had way too many bad passes and dropped balls. But a lot of physical talent.

So, let me understand...

Syosset played great in the 2nd quarter, but had way too many bad passes and dropped balls, but yet they have a lot of physical talent.

OK - got it! That all makes perfect sense.

Thx!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset looks much better in 2nd quarter. Making it a game

Sadly they were never in the game. And that team had a lot D1 recruits. Surprised they were not more competitive.

your post is disingenuous at best and stupid at worst, I do not believe you were sad and 4-2 at half would be "in the game" -

15-8 Final.

I guess St. Anthony's cleared their bench a bit early (like 2nd period), and that allowed Syo to make it seem close at the half. Not close in the 2nd 1/2 at all.

I’m no fan of Syosset, but I thought they played great in 2nd quarter. If you think it was never a game or that SA took out the starters you didn’t watch the game. SA just better, they put it together and ran away with it in the 2nd half. Syosset had way too many bad passes and dropped balls. But a lot of physical talent.

So, let me understand...

Syosset played great in the 2nd quarter, but had way too many bad passes and dropped balls, but yet they have a lot of physical talent.

OK - got it! That all makes perfect sense.

Thx!

relax, they were fast kids, but they dropped a lot of passes and threw the ball away. Take a chill pill

Look like Tarzan
Play like Jane d9a

So let me get this straight, if a parent has a problem with the way a coach plays their son in high school its usually because the kid isnt good and the parents have no idea about lacrosse. Really? What if the coach is a person of very low moral character. They are well protected within the district and basically do whatever they want. There are also a number of coaches that are a bit long in the tooth that also fall into the two above catagories.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me get this straight, if a parent has a problem with the way a coach plays their son in high school its usually because the kid isnt good and the parents have no idea about lacrosse. Really? What if the coach is a person of very low moral character. They are well protected within the district and basically do whatever they want. There are also a number of coaches that are a bit long in the tooth that also fall into the two above catagories.

There are coaches of low moral character, just like in every other walk of life. But when this is the first place parents go when there kid doesn't play enough that's when we shake our heads. Believe me there are coaches who aren't in love with certain players. But if that kid can really play and help the team win, it would be pretty obvious to all that a coach isn't doing the right thing. And in that case going to the AD or the coach himself would be more beneficial than posting anonymously here. I can also think of some past postings I've seen about wanting and getting and celebrating some coaching changes. Anyone go back and see if those teams are better or worse?

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me get this straight, if a parent has a problem with the way a coach plays their son in high school its usually because the kid isnt good and the parents have no idea about lacrosse. Really? What if the coach is a person of very low moral character. They are well protected within the district and basically do whatever they want. There are also a number of coaches that are a bit long in the tooth that also fall into the two above catagories.

There are coaches of low moral character, just like in every other walk of life. But when this is the first place parents go when there kid doesn't play enough that's when we shake our heads. Believe me there are coaches who aren't in love with certain players. But if that kid can really play and help the team win, it would be pretty obvious to all that a coach isn't doing the right thing. And in that case going to the AD or the coach himself would be more beneficial than posting anonymously here. I can also think of some past postings I've seen about wanting and getting and celebrating some coaching changes. Anyone go back and see if those teams are better or worse?

I can think of one or two players on our school's team that are maybe the most talented on the team but deserve to have their jerks nailed to the bench because their play is 100% selfish and they take the some of the most dumb [ChillLaxin] penalties at the worst possible times, so your theory doesn't work in these cases!

this site is both a benefit and a distraction. It's like the ole believe half you see and nothing you hear.

ME I would have swore from the game people would have been blasting St Ants and turns out to be the opposite and its a total Syosett S show.

really people

Today may have hurt, we can only hope the next few games, Commack, West Islip, and Sachem East will be different but it doesn't seem the ball bounces our way. We have been in each game and I cant seem to blame this on anyone. Just very competitive games. Just good games with a lot of parity. Today could have went either way, and we got some beneficial calls and no calls, but hats off to all of these teams.

PS stop bringing JV kids up to pad the sideline. Let them enjoy their time on JV. They cant play on varsity anyway, stop the farce. Lots of time left just advance and survive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think it was about one player but more about the trashing Northport has been taking on here. The coach has been getting ripped heavily as well as people just stating how bad they are. So they got beat up by Smithtown West pretty badly. That's one game. Give me another game they have played that has been so bad? The are right in the thick of things and I think aside from SW and WM, the landscape is pretty competitive this year so ya never know who is going to end up where. So I think way to early to say they won't make the playoffs. They have a big game today vs. SE and Bayshore on the weekend. Both I think will be very competitive games and can go either way.

[quote=Anonymous]I think the original post reads as if they Nport will make the playoffs, (northport commack West islip are probably #5-7.) are you questioning this? and saying they wont make playoffs? and are you saying this because of one player, one player doesnt make that happen. When will he be back?

Big games tomorrow for teams in A maybe a foreshadow of playoffs:
Quott vs Ward Melville
HHHE v SmithW
WIslip v CMack
Nport v SmithE

Sachem E v BShore
Whit v Hunt

Leading to bigger games Saturday, or games could let division shale out.

Lindy v HHHE
Nport v BShore
SmithE v Rivr

SmithW v Sachem E
WIslip v Hunt
Melville V Whitmn

Todays Predictions
Quott 10-9
SW 14-7
Commack 13-11
Smith East 15-8
Sachem E 11-9
Hunt 14-8

Who is this about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Today may have hurt, we can only hope the next few games, Commack, West Islip, and Sachem East will be different but it doesn't seem the ball bounces our way. We have been in each game and I cant seem to blame this on anyone. Just very competitive games. Just good games with a lot of parity. Today could have went either way, and we got some beneficial calls and no calls, but hats off to all of these teams.

PS stop bringing JV kids up to pad the sideline. Let them enjoy their time on JV. They cant play on varsity anyway, stop the farce. Lots of time left just advance and survive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think it was about one player but more about the trashing Northport has been taking on here. The coach has been getting ripped heavily as well as people just stating how bad they are. So they got beat up by Smithtown West pretty badly. That's one game. Give me another game they have played that has been so bad? The are right in the thick of things and I think aside from SW and WM, the landscape is pretty competitive this year so ya never know who is going to end up where. So I think way to early to say they won't make the playoffs. They have a big game today vs. SE and Bayshore on the weekend. Both I think will be very competitive games and can go either way.

[quote=Anonymous]I think the original post reads as if they Nport will make the playoffs, (northport commack West islip are probably #5-7.) are you questioning this? and saying they wont make playoffs? and are you saying this because of one player, one player doesnt make that happen. When will he be back?

Big games tomorrow for teams in A maybe a foreshadow of playoffs:
Quott vs Ward Melville
HHHE v SmithW
WIslip v CMack
Nport v SmithE

Sachem E v BShore
Whit v Hunt

Leading to bigger games Saturday, or games could let division shale out.

Lindy v HHHE
Nport v BShore
SmithE v Rivr

SmithW v Sachem E
WIslip v Hunt
Melville V Whitmn

Todays Predictions
Quott 10-9
SW 14-7
Commack 13-11
Smith East 15-8
Sachem E 11-9
Hunt 14-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let me get this straight, if a parent has a problem with the way a coach plays their son in high school its usually because the kid isnt good and the parents have no idea about lacrosse. Really? What if the coach is a person of very low moral character. They are well protected within the district and basically do whatever they want. There are also a number of coaches that are a bit long in the tooth that also fall into the two above catagories.

There are coaches of low moral character, just like in every other walk of life. But when this is the first place parents go when there kid doesn't play enough that's when we shake our heads. Believe me there are coaches who aren't in love with certain players. But if that kid can really play and help the team win, it would be pretty obvious to all that a coach isn't doing the right thing. And in that case going to the AD or the coach himself would be more beneficial than posting anonymously here. I can also think of some past postings I've seen about wanting and getting and celebrating some coaching changes. Anyone go back and see if those teams are better or worse?

I can think of one or two players on our school's team that are maybe the most talented on the team but deserve to have their jerks nailed to the bench because their play is 100% selfish and they take the some of the most dumb [ChillLaxin] penalties at the worst possible times, so your theory doesn't work in these cases!

Sounds like just about any school. What school are you referring to specifically?

Pequa looked real good yesterday, very deep on the Defensive side.

A great game and a heartbreaking loss. Feel real bad for the players especially the seniors who have been leaving it all on the field. Another game that had them in position to win with less than a minute to play and another chance for the coach not to provide a viable play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A great game and a heartbreaking loss. Feel real bad for the players especially the seniors who have been leaving it all on the field. Another game that had them in position to win with less than a minute to play and another chance for the coach not to provide a viable play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

What nonsense, team wins the kids did it, team loses, bad coaching! The reason they lost is bad parents. The kids and the team are fine, it’s YOU!

I've been coming on here for a long time since my son started playing travel ball back in 4th grade. And I have to say, this will be my last time on and my last post. It's one thing if a player is posting but the back and forth from the parents is kind of pathetic and ridiculous, and I am sure at one time or another I was just as guilty. If your kid's team loses there is always someone to blame be it a player or coach. This goes on with all the team's not just one. I rarely see credit being given for a win to the wining team. Even if it is, it always seems to be backhanded and slighted.

My son is on the Northport team and yup, they are having a tough season. In reading the banter between these two posts it made me realize how any derogatory or negative remarks on here is doing nothing but hurting our kids. They read this stuff or hear it from their parents and especially in tough times, they need to focus more on banding together to try and right their ship than looking for someone to blame a loss on. I've been just as guilty, maybe not on the site but standing on the sidelines. What we say and do rubs right off on the boys. If they win, fantastic! They lose and let's find someone to demonize. The coach screwed up or a player not be named or sometimes is referred to and they all know who they are is blamed. That is right up their with cyber bullying. So yeah, I agree with the first "Anonymous" post of a heartbreaking loss and feeling bad for the players especially the seniors because after this, many will not have the chance to play the sport they love again. And I also agree with the other "Anonymous: poster to a point. Kids and coaches win the game and lose them together. There is never just 1 thing to point to. A ball bounces your way, a call goes your way or a goal is saved or made, you win or lose. As a team, players & coaches. So my point, as this reminded me of how much I used to enjoy and look forward to going to games and just watching my son play, win or lose. So for the little time he has left this year, that is all I plan on doing. No complaints, win or lose. I'll be there on the sidelines rooting for him as well as the rest of his team. Just something to think about because I know I will miss this time when it is all over and many of you will as well. Just go support your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A great game and a heartbreaking loss. Feel real bad for the players especially the seniors who have been leaving it all on the field. Another game that had them in position to win with less than a minute to play and another chance for the coach not to provide a viable play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another Northport loss! Long year

What nonsense, team wins the kids did it, team loses, bad coaching! The reason they lost is bad parents. The kids and the team are fine, it’s YOU!

Big games today in Suffolk

Ward Melville vs HHHE
Commack vs NORTHPORT
West Islip vs Smithtown East
HHHW vs SWR
Kings Park vs West Hampton
East Islip vs ESM
BBP vs West Babylon

Looks like anonymous posting and replying has been turned off again. This will be a quiet forum once again.

Big games today in A that have playoff implications.

Smithtown West @ Connetquot - National exposure on the line for Smithtown West, both will probably end up top 5. Will 4/25 mean something
Ward Melville @ Hills East - Trap game or not? Will 4/25 mean something
Smithtown East @ West Islip - WI
Commack @ Northport - Big game for NP
Riverhead @ Whitman - toss up, can Home field play into it
Sachem North @ East - East, played Smithtown West close.

Hills East beat Ward Melville 7-6 today

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

Big games today in A that have playoff implications.

Smithtown West @ Connetquot - National exposure on the line for Smithtown West, both will probably end up top 5. Will 4/25 mean something
Ward Melville @ Hills East - Trap game or not? Will 4/25 mean something
Smithtown East @ West Islip - WI
Commack @ Northport - Big game for NP
Riverhead @ Whitman - toss up, can Home field play into it
Sachem North @ East - East, played Smithtown West close.

Big Win for Northport
Smithtown West pulls out another one
Hills is very good, but felt like a trap game for Patriots
Riverhead (guess home field meant nothing, but that is a hike of a bus trip), should get elusive 8
Sachem North nice win, big game next week schedule progressively gets tougher

not sure with only 6 team getting to the playoff if this means much for playoffs , but good games

Sayville vs East Islip -

King Park vs Mt Sinai - Can this game turn Div II sideways

Harborfield vs Bayport BP - Two very similar teams

Friday games of consequence
Huntington vs Smithtown West
Smithtown East vs Lindy - can football parley to lacrosse
Riverhead vs Connetquot - very interesting game

Taking a quick look at the schedule today and looking at Sect XI web site I guess today should iron out a few things. What is unfortunate about today is the schools having to play on such a bad day not giving a full read on to the teams. Both teams will play in the same elements but you like weather to not be a factor.

Seems as if the CHSAA has decided to postpone the game till it is better. Be that as it may, I am curious to why HHE is not ranked higher than Melvile. Why give Melville more power points? Is that because a win against North Babylon actually negates the loss for Melville.

But then the West Ilsip and Smithtown East ranking goes against that West Islip beat Smithtown and only lost to 2 teams in the top 4? Smithtown lost to 2 top teams and West Islip. What gives?

Will today really sort it all out. I dont think it will.

This has probably been talked about before but does anyone know why the Suffolk championships were taken out of Stony Brook and "given" to Islip. "Neutral" site? Do they have the capacity? Why not St Joe's if you wanted to change venue?

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

This has probably been talked about before but does anyone know why the Suffolk championships were taken out of Stony Brook and "given" to Islip. "Neutral" site? Do they have the capacity? Why not St Joe's if you wanted to change venue?

That's a good question and how big is the Islip facility...Having it at St Joe's could also help give the program more exposurem

Did we move or were we made to move? Did Stony Brook make it impossible to continue there?

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

This has probably been talked about before but does anyone know why the Suffolk championships were taken out of Stony Brook and "given" to Islip. "Neutral" site? Do they have the capacity? Why not St Joe's if you wanted to change venue?

That's a good question and how big is the Islip facility...Having it at St Joe's could also help give the program more exposurem

Originally Posted by 2ndsportLAX

Did we move or were we made to move? Did Stony Brook make it impossible to continue there?

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

This has probably been talked about before but does anyone know why the Suffolk championships were taken out of Stony Brook and "given" to Islip. "Neutral" site? Do they have the capacity? Why not St Joe's if you wanted to change venue?

That's a good question and how big is the Islip facility...Having it at St Joe's could also help give the program more exposurem

Not sure but maybe they were forced to move due to the SB Women's team success...

Originally Posted by Laxers412

Originally Posted by 2ndsportLAX

Did we move or were we made to move? Did Stony Brook make it impossible to continue there?

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

This has probably been talked about before but does anyone know why the Suffolk championships were taken out of Stony Brook and "given" to Islip. "Neutral" site? Do they have the capacity? Why not St Joe's if you wanted to change venue?

That's a good question and how big is the Islip facility...Having it at St Joe's could also help give the program more exposurem

Not sure but maybe they were forced to move due to the SB Women's team success...

That thought had occurred to me, but this had to be planned well in advance of that, no?

It's a great day for some spring lacrosse.

A two really good games Islip vs SWR today and of course the rescheduled St Anthony's Chaminade game.

not sure what the St Anthony's Chaminade game means. National rankings? With West losing, the loser should fall below the Patriots and Hills East, will West fall off do to the point differential.

A look at who is looking at the last few seeds in A with Whitman and Lindy. Whitman needs 4 more wins, this is a must win not sure how this season is going to shake out with the snow delays and a tough last 3 of 4. Is today a must win for Lindy, not, doesn't have to panic with Huntington and PatMed ending their season, but then will power points (or lack there of) may come to play.

Who is in the small school D this year, doe sit exist?

4-4 minute to half
Chaminade time out

Big games this week all impacting playoff

Tuesday
Commack vs Hills East
Northport vs Ward Melville
Riverhead vs Lindy
Smith East vs Connetquot
Smith West vs West I

Friday
Bay Shore vs Hills East
Riverhead vs Smith West

I like Hills East, WM, Lindy, Smith East, Smith West for the Tuesday Match-ups. Any one else have their picks?

Originally Posted by Laxers412

I like Hills East, WM, Lindy, Smith East, Smith West for the Tuesday Match-ups. Any one else have their picks?

Big wins today for Commack and Riverhead.

Friday
Bay Shore vs Hills East
Riverhead vs Smith West

Saturday
Whitman vs West islip

A real shame the weather played in the Darien vs St Anthony's game. Unlike the Smithtown West vs Melville game, this game was closer, althought I do think the Melville/West game is a closer game on a better day. All talented teams.

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

A real shame the weather played in the Darien vs St Anthony's game. Unlike the Smithtown West vs Melville game, this game was closer, althought I do think the Melville/West game is a closer game on a better day. All talented teams.

Totally unfair for a private school to have to play a public school. Darien gets all the kids that live in the town these kids have all played together for years while St Anthony's is stuck with all the kids that are not good enough to play for their own towns, they don't get these kids until 9th grade and outside of express, none of the kids know each other. Good for St A's for stepping up and despite their huge disadvantage they can compete with the publics

Should be a good game this afternoon with Bethpage vs Floral Park...both team has a good bunch of Seniors & Juniors.

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Should be a good game this afternoon with Bethpage vs Floral Park...both team has a good bunch of Seniors & Juniors.

Who won between Bethpage & Floral Park?

Originally Posted by Stickcheck

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Should be a good game this afternoon with Bethpage vs Floral Park...both team has a good bunch of Seniors & Juniors.

Who won between Bethpage & Floral Park?

Bethpage beat Floral Park 12-7

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Originally Posted by Stickcheck

Originally Posted by LaxrFanatic

Should be a good game this afternoon with Bethpage vs Floral Park...both team has a good bunch of Seniors & Juniors.

Who won between Bethpage & Floral Park?

Bethpage beat Floral Park 12-7

Bethpage looks athletic with some solid players. No game changers but a lot of good, athletic, reliable players on offense, FO, & defense lead by one key player so it will be interesting if they can break that hump they have been experiencing since the last strong team back in 2004. Coaching will play a bigrole IMO.

West Islip get Jobbed by Sect Xi. No real bump with the win. Hills east gets not ramifications for the lose.

Not sure if West Islip should have been 3 or 4 with Connetquot taking that other spot. Commack should be 5, didnt Commack beat Hills also. Hills should have dropped to 6. I would think a loss to Smithtown West means less than a loss to West Islip.

7-11 will be a battle of who makes the least amount of mistake or capitalizes on their opponents mistakes. Plenty of solid players in there, which team pulls it together.

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

West Islip gets Jobbed by Sect Xi. No real bump with the win. Hills east gets no real ramification for the loss.

Not sure if West Islip should have been 3 or 4 with Connetquot taking that other spot. Commack should be 5, didnt Commack beat Hills also. Hills should have dropped to 6. I would think a loss to Smithtown West means less than a loss to West Islip.

7-11 will be a battle of who makes the least amount of mistake or capitalizes on their opponents mistakes. Plenty of solid players in there, which team pulls it together.

Pequa is rolling right now. Who Do you guys think can challenge them? They are loaded with talents with guys committed to Maryland, Air Force, Loyola and the list goes on.

Sorry for being late to the game with this question, but why aren't we playing Suffolk county finals at Stony Brook? Were we kicked out, or was there some other reason? They aren't the best neighbor and was wondering "why"

Originally Posted by 2ndsportLAX

Sorry for being late to the game with this question, but why aren't we playing Suffolk county finals at Stony Brook? Were we kicked out, or was there some other reason? They aren't the best neighbor and was wondering "why"

I think it was a $$ and cents thing. Dont think it was a kicked out thing but a choice.

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

Originally Posted by 2ndsportLAX

Sorry for being late to the game with this question, but why aren't we playing Suffolk county finals at Stony Brook? Were we kicked out, or was there some other reason? They aren't the best neighbor and was wondering "why"

I think it was a $$ and cents thing. Dont think it was a kicked out thing but a choice.

Could it be because Stony Brook is hosting the NCAA tournament?

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

Originally Posted by 2ndsportLAX

Sorry for being late to the game with this question, but why aren't we playing Suffolk county finals at Stony Brook? Were we kicked out, or was there some other reason? They aren't the best neighbor and was wondering "why"

I think it was a $$ and cents thing. Dont think it was a kicked out thing but a choice.

Could it be because Stony Brook is hosting the NCAA tournament?

anything is possible, but heard from a good source it was $$ and Cents.

say what

Great 1st round battle between Northport & Smithtown East. Triple OT with Northport pulling out the win. Those types of games it is a shame someone has to lose.

looks like you can post anonymously again - it is about time, I was starting to forget how much we all hate each other- best time of the year, lets hope the weather gets better

Stony Brook has a long history with other sports of making it impossible to use their facilities and being a "good neighbor". Hope it was the NCAA's and not some quiet incremental way of removing all Suffolk County sports from their campus (which is what I am used to). Guess we will see next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stony Brook has a long history with other sports of making it impossible to use their facilities and being a "good neighbor". Hope it was the NCAA's and not some quiet incremental way of removing all Suffolk County sports from their campus (which is what I am used to). Guess we will see next year.

SB turf is being replaced starting next week

Does anyone know the site that you can see who got all county and all conference in Nassau or Suffolk county. I know they did the selections on Thursday, but some coaches have not released the information and others did.

of course our coach waits for atleast a week after the selections to announce who got what

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know the site that you can see who got all county and all conference in Nassau or Suffolk county. I know they did the selections on Thursday, but some coaches have not released the information and others did.

of course our coach waits for atleast a week after the selections to announce who got what

Here is Nassau
https://www.nassauboces.org/Page/557

thanks but I already looked on that site and couldn't find the selections. is there a tab I didn't see to pull up the names

thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know the site that you can see who got all county and all conference in Nassau or Suffolk county. I know they did the selections on Thursday, but some coaches have not released the information and others did.

of course our coach waits for atleast a week after the selections to announce who got what

There is no formal announcement or publication to speak of, many coaches do not like to tell the kids until after the playoffs to not cause decent on the team. generally the first time you will see the full list is in the program at the dinner same as AA - Newsday will have the "All Long Island team" on there website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Class A

Sect XI site ranking holds weight for the playoff picture, but it is to soon to make heads or tails of it right now. You have to have the teams cycle through at least half the games to figure out the 5-10. Top 4 will probably remain the top 4 whether or not they remain in the spot currently in.

I doubt Whitman amd Smithtown East will stay that high. Or Northport and Commack that low. West Islip moves up one.

Another battle for the last 4 spots out of 6 teams. If the bracket only takes 11 teams. Advantage teams with current ranking.
Bay Shore
Lindy
Riverhead
Sachems
Smithtown East
Whitman

Lindy is a product of their easy schedule, should get a lot of wins. Will that hurt the rankings. Riverhead is a must win. West Islip a reach. Still might be the first of that group to get in.

Whitemen high current rank will help. West Islip and Riverhead games are huge.

Riverhead will play Whitmen, should win. But Commack and Smithtown East game are big. Should take 2/3. West Islip loss hurts unless WI does damage. Should be next in.

Smithtown East is headed into Must win month thru 4/28.

Bay Shore and the Sachems won't get to play Lindy or Whitmen and that could come back to bite them. Gotta take care of business against each other and try and steal a game. Bay Shore's Commack Loss hurts unless Commack does damage. Sachem North's Northport loss hurts.

Lax Power also has an interesting rankings that I could see. Probably gives a truer picture. Maybe swap Huntington and West Islip. And Riverhead and Commack and Lindy and Bay Shore.

Not a bad year for many as the final four A teams battle it out. Preseason rank to playoffs they were some surprises, but the top 4 started and ended close to expected.

Smithtown East - started as 5, will drop around 10 (Surprise)
Commack started ranked and will remain close to 6
West Islip started ranked 7 to start, should end 5 (Should have been 5 to start)
Northport started ranked 8, remains close
Riverhead started ranked 9, remains close but higher (keep an eye on them)
Sachem started ranked 10th will end outside of the top 15 (surprise they were that high)

Bay Shore not ranked should land 7/8/9 (Should have been ranked higher to start)
Lindy not ranked will remain outside top 10 may just fall to 11

Next year I dont see much movement in the top two, Ward Melville and Smithtown West, should be the 2 every team is gunning for, but i do see a few more teams beating them than this year. undefeated will be a tough go next year, even a 2 loss season will be tough.

I do see a few teams making the 3/4/5 a closer than this year, but with different teams. I think it is now or never for Hills and Quot, I just dont see them getting past the top 2. Next year, Riverhead, Bay Shore and West Islip will be back with plenty of returning talent and Sr leadership, they will give the top 2 a run for the County. Did Riverhead find its goalie? Can Bay Shore stay healthy? Will West Islip push for a top spot? keep an eye on these teams.

Smithtown East could also be labeled in that 3/4/5 group with a tough rising Jr group and a good crop of rising Srs..

Teams 10 -14 will be a toss up Hills East, Quot, Commack, Lindy, Whitman Sachems, Huntington. All with talent on their teams.

PatMed and Floyd are limbo teams. If you are a top 10 team, with the Power points concerns, these are teams you just do not want to play.

Longwood, Middle Country, North Babylon, Brentwood and Copaigue. I am glad these schools field teams but can Sect XI come up with a better system so they do not have to play teams over their head. Playing teams 10-14 is still to much for them. Playing teams 6 -10 just shouldnt happen, these teams should be given opportunities to play outside of the division or league.

Grow the game, yes, but do it the right way.

Although this year is not over, next year looks just as good. It could be much of the same, the same top 2, then the next tier of 4 teams (but different schools), then the next tier of 3 schools. Looking forward to another good year of LI lacrosse with 10 teams who can play with anyone.

Originally Posted by thegoaliesdad

How is it decided? I thought it was based solely on coaches from opposing teams. Does a team's head coach have anything to do with it? It my kids teams situation, it's all about the politics and who kisses the most a***. Total bs

How is what decided, post season awards? What are the Awards? How many are there?

As I am sure there are a certain amount of politics, I wouldnt say all about the politics. Stop diminishing those who were awarded it and deserved it. Hopefully you will have a next year to earn it. Use it as fire!

To the joker on the laxpwr forum with the rose colored glasses-you are full of hyperbole following the Mt's victory but stating the two soph mids as best in the country-common they are good but don't discredited yourself with dumb statements like that. Off the top of my head I'll take the 3 of the soph mids at St. A's for starters... Islip game should be a good one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the joker on the laxpwr forum with the rose colored glasses-you are full of hyperbole following the Mt's victory but stating the two soph mids as best in the country-common they are good but don't discredited yourself with dumb statements like that. Off the top of my head I'll take the 3 of the soph mids at St. A's for starters... Islip game should be a good one.

Mt Si soph mids are good, but I would take the St Ant's soph mids all day and twice on Sunday (Pun Intended), and lets not get started with the type of competition that a school like St Ants or Chaminade sees game in and game out Vs. Suffolk div 2 publics, everyone has an opinion but sorry not in the same solar system. Greenport/Mattituck/Southold - Middle Island - Sayville - Bayport , Shoreham , Westhampton ?? Just stop, enjoy the play. Statements like that are just silly and for the people who want to get into comparisons have your coach call the St Ants coach they will certainly be looking for competitive games to play next season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the joker on the laxpwr forum with the rose colored glasses-you are full of hyperbole following the Mt's victory but stating the two soph mids as best in the country-common they are good but don't discredited yourself with dumb statements like that. Off the top of my head I'll take the 3 of the soph mids at St. A's for starters... Islip game should be a good one.

Mt Si soph mids are good, but I would take the St Ant's soph mids all day and twice on Sunday (Pun Intended), and lets not get started with the type of competition that a school like St Ants or Chaminade sees game in and game out Vs. Suffolk div 2 publics, everyone has an opinion but sorry not in the same solar system. Greenport/Mattituck/Southold - Middle Island - Sayville - Bayport , Shoreham , Westhampton ?? Just stop, enjoy the play. Statements like that are just silly and for the people who want to get into comparisons have your coach call the St Ants coach they will certainly be looking for competitive games to play next season

What pun?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the joker on the laxpwr forum with the rose colored glasses-you are full of hyperbole following the Mt's victory but stating the two soph mids as best in the country-common they are good but don't discredited yourself with dumb statements like that. Off the top of my head I'll take the 3 of the soph mids at St. A's for starters... Islip game should be a good one.

Mt Si soph mids are good, but I would take the St Ant's soph mids all day and twice on Sunday (Pun Intended), and lets not get started with the type of competition that a school like St Ants or Chaminade sees game in and game out Vs. Suffolk div 2 publics, everyone has an opinion but sorry not in the same solar system. Greenport/Mattituck/Southold - Middle Island - Sayville - Bayport , Shoreham , Westhampton ?? Just stop, enjoy the play. Statements like that are just silly and for the people who want to get into comparisons have your coach call the St Ants coach they will certainly be looking for competitive games to play next season

There is only one varisty ready soph for the Friars, in my opinion. The seniors were pushed aside (some d1 commits) to make way for those sophs to develop and pave the way for the next two years. The seniors are as good as the sophs, but when these sophs are seniors theyll be much better than the current seniors. So they invested in the future now and have two of the best attackmen around to shoulder the load. That's my view, but kinda obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the joker on the laxpwr forum with the rose colored glasses-you are full of hyperbole following the Mt's victory but stating the two soph mids as best in the country-common they are good but don't discredited yourself with dumb statements like that. Off the top of my head I'll take the 3 of the soph mids at St. A's for starters... Islip game should be a good one.

Mt Si soph mids are good, but I would take the St Ant's soph mids all day and twice on Sunday (Pun Intended), and lets not get started with the type of competition that a school like St Ants or Chaminade sees game in and game out Vs. Suffolk div 2 publics, everyone has an opinion but sorry not in the same solar system. Greenport/Mattituck/Southold - Middle Island - Sayville - Bayport , Shoreham , Westhampton ?? Just stop, enjoy the play. Statements like that are just silly and for the people who want to get into comparisons have your coach call the St Ants coach they will certainly be looking for competitive games to play next season

There is only one varisty ready soph for the Friars, in my opinion. The seniors were pushed aside (some d1 commits) to make way for those sophs to develop and pave the way for the next two years. The seniors are as good as the sophs, but when these sophs are seniors theyll be much better than the current seniors. So they invested in the future now and have two of the best attackmen around to shoulder the load. That's my view, but kinda obvious.

St A's has 2 handfuls of Middies in that Soph class that if they were in the public's would be killing it. That said, Yes, St A's went against their wait your turn mantra and jumped the shark.

St A just lost to chammy, yes? Appreciate the perspective, but suspect their two handfuls wouldn't be killing it at WM or HHE or Pequa or SMW or...

They split the games. FRIARS SMACKED THEM IN THE 1ST. then gave up a 2 goal lead with 2 minutes to play. Finals are today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A just lost to chammy, yes? Appreciate the perspective, but suspect their two handfuls wouldn't be killing it at WM or HHE or Pequa or SMW or...

Oh please, the kids from 'mack CSH SWR ESM King Park alone would have made a difference on any of those teams but maybe the WM team. But the OP statement didnt detail which team just publics. Imagine if those kids were back at their prospective town schools, the difference the publics would have been dramatic for some.

We all know certain schools would have been dramatically different if their boys stayed in district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They split the games. FRIARS SMACKED THEM IN THE 1ST. then gave up a 2 goal lead with 2 minutes to play. Finals are today.

Gave up 4 goals in about the last 4 minutes.... Choke?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They split the games. FRIARS SMACKED THEM IN THE 1ST. then gave up a 2 goal lead with 2 minutes to play. Finals are today.

Gave up 4 goals in about the last 4 minutes.... Choke?

Guess we will find out today. Just remember one thing, 90% of St As scoring contributors are coming back next year and the JV team was very strong.

Sounds like chammy returned the smack down...

WM handled chammy and as i recall (and I was there) won the st a scrimmage, although many say scrimmages don't count...

Pequa, another well respected public, lost to chammy in a reasonably close battle.

not claiming any superiority in this post, rather admitting that much of this game falls to the bounce of the ball, the calls of the officials, whether to goalie or face off kid has a great game...

it takes more than one kid-no matter how good- to win in any of these contests...so, there is no town begging for the return of any st a middie kid...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So true 100% accurate!!!! Going to be and is a long season for Syosset

good call

Super sophs, not so super....dissappeared in this game.

What happen to all the port dad’s saying they would be in the finals???? Have fun at the beach this weekend!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to all the port dad’s saying they would be in the finals???? Have fun at the beach this weekend!!

Yup- boating and beaching not such a bad way to spend the weekend while the trashy Massapequa players and fans go strip mall shopping. Classless players and fans. Should all be ashamed of themselves

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to all the port dad’s saying they would be in the finals???? Have fun at the beach this weekend!!

Yup- boating and beaching not such a bad way to spend the weekend while the trashy Massapequa players and fans go strip mall shopping. Classless players and fans. Should all be ashamed of themselves

Why?

Didn’t The Hill Academy and Culver just play in some type of championship last weekend? Why are they playing again this weekend in another championship? And didn’t most of these kids already graduate? I seriously don’t get it?

I apologize if one of our Massapequa parents said that. But you should have replied back to that person. I have a very good friend on Port and I hang out with him before games, and have a couple. Actually saw his son after the game gave him a big hug and said how is college going. I would never put your whole team down for one stunads classless comment.

I think a lot of the pequa families will head out to the beach after stopping buy all -American burger for lunch. watch out for rocks and sewage up there in hempstead harbor...

Anyone hear anything about Black Card coming up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I apologize if one of our Massapequa parents said that. But you should have replied back to that person. I have a very good friend on Port and I hang out with him before games, and have a couple. Actually saw his son after the game gave him a big hug and said how is college going. I would never put your whole team down for one stunads classless comment.

I am glad to hear that. I was referring to teenage fans in the parking lot and in the stadium. Very rude and obnoxious - saying really trashy things to us while we were in the parking lot before and after the game. Also, bad behavior on the part of 2 players making gestures and shouting things to us in the bleachers while they were on the field. Never seen behavior like that in all my years of lacrosse. Just wrong and not necessary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to all the port dad’s saying they would be in the finals???? Have fun at the beach this weekend!!

Yup- boating and beaching not such a bad way to spend the weekend while the trashy Massapequa players and fans go strip mall shopping. Classless players and fans. Should all be ashamed of themselves

Did something happen at the game that you seem to be the only one aware of. There didnt seem to be any issues in the stands and or on the field. As a whole the game only had a few penalties called so it was a clean game. Massapequa just out played Port. Dont know why you would call Massapequa players and fans classless. They just beat you. You seem to be just a sore loser.

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Boo-hoo. Grow a tougher skin snowflake.

What's up Mt. Sinai?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

you are a brave man to post about kids anonymously, if you would like to get together to discuss your obsession with Syosset lacrosse and my son, please give me a call sometime

516.330.5485

PO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I apologize if one of our Massapequa parents said that. But you should have replied back to that person. I have a very good friend on Port and I hang out with him before games, and have a couple. Actually saw his son after the game gave him a big hug and said how is college going. I would never put your whole team down for one stunads classless comment.

I am glad to hear that. I was referring to teenage fans in the parking lot and in the stadium. Very rude and obnoxious - saying really trashy things to us while we were in the parking lot before and after the game. Also, bad behavior on the part of 2 players making gestures and shouting things to us in the bleachers while they were on the field. Never seen behavior like that in all my years of lacrosse. Just wrong and not necessary

The only bad language I came across was from the Oceanside moms.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

And BOTC is back to normal.

Massapequa will have to play a perfect game to win on Saturday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Did you really think Syosset was going to beat Massapequa? It didnt take Nostradamus to perdict that one.

Now lets see how the Long Island Championships go.

Massapequa vs Ward Melville

Garden City vs Harborfields

Cold Spring Harbor vs Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Did you really think Syosset was going to beat Massapequa? It didnt take Nostradamus to perdict that one.

Now lets see how the Long Island Championships go.

Massapequa vs Ward Melville

Garden City vs Harborfields

Cold Spring Harbor vs Islip

And you’re saying it takes Nostradamus to predict the outcome of Ward Melville beating up on massapequa on Saturday ?? That one is A LOT easier to predict

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Did you really think Syosset was going to beat Massapequa? It didnt take Nostradamus to perdict that one.

Now lets see how the Long Island Championships go.

Massapequa vs Ward Melville

Garden City vs Harborfields

Cold Spring Harbor vs Islip

Suffolk sweep!

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

GC will destroy Harborfields.

Massapequa by 1 over WM

CSH by 3 over Islip

Massapequa bashing started before season started.
Think at what they accomplished
Lost 3 Div 1 starters for season
Best offense in Nassau
2nd best Best defense
Best net goals
Undefeated in Conf A
6 Players over 30 points
Lost only one game
Highest RPI in Nassau
Same RPI as Ward Melville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

GC will destroy Harborfields.

Massapequa by 1 over WM

CSH by 3 over Islip

Me thinks your crystal ball has a serious crack in it. A Nassau sweep ain't gonna happen fella. Keep dreaming....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

GC will destroy Harborfields.

Massapequa by 1 over WM

CSH by 3 over Islip

Me thinks your crystal ball has a serious crack in it. A Nassau sweep ain't gonna happen fella. Keep dreaming....

Nassau sweep!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

GC will destroy Harborfields.

Massapequa by 1 over WM

CSH by 3 over Islip

WM by 3-5 over Pequa

How is GC face off kid? Harborfields kid is very good. If they match that GC by 5
CSH has no shot against Islip. Islip 12-5

Are u saying Pequa offense is better then last year.Then maybe they have a chance.

Wow no mention of FO kid, without him u would be out of playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa goalie will have to stand on his head to take down the Patriots. He is capable of doing so. Harborfields and Garden City should be the best game of the three. Islip is VERY strong this year with no real weakness. CSH is not as strong as they were the last three years when they won the states.

GC will destroy Harborfields.

Massapequa by 1 over WM

CSH by 3 over Islip

WM by 3-5 over Pequa

How is GC face off kid? Harborfields kid is very good. If they match that GC by 5
CSH has no shot against Islip. Islip 12-5

GC kid going to Villanova. He is very good and also can carry the ball very well and shoot. Not a FOGO at all. Harborfields has a few good players but that can not beat the depth of GC and also the coaching. Harborfields have not been there before like GC. The senior class has been to the championship the last 3 years.

All I can say is that I'm glad the season is over, now I can start work again.

The GC vs Hfields game will be a blowout. Congrats to Harborfields for winning Suffolk but they are just not in the same league as GC. It will be a similar result to last year's final vs ESM (14-4)

The joker from laxpower "stickhead" is back making factual predictions

"Re: Nassau County 2018
New postby stickhead on Thu May 31, 2018 8:40 pm

I saw a couple of Suffolk boys going out to Nassau. CSH isn't making out of the LIC!!! #Facts"

This is the same hammerhead that said last year there was no way CSH would beat SWR. He really hated being from the other side of the tracks in Huntington and always disparages CSH. Hopefully he is wrong again and will hang up his prognostications... Richardhead would be a better handle. Islip is good. It will be a good game. $-peat dreams still alive...

CSH has more of a shot vs. Islip than Harborfields does vs. GC...

That's whhy they play the games though. Wasn't JD supposed to run away with the C championship this year? Gone. When I last checked their record Islip was not undefeated...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has more of a shot vs. Islip than Harborfields does vs. GC...

That's whhy they play the games though. Wasn't JD supposed to run away with the C championship this year? Gone. When I last checked their record Islip was not undefeated...

CSH has a chance. If Mt Sinai's face off kid wasnt suspended I don't think Islip gets out of Suffolk. Besides the fact that somehow section 11 let Islip have a home game even though they were a lower seed! Islip is a really good, should be a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has more of a shot vs. Islip than Harborfields does vs. GC...

That's whhy they play the games though. Wasn't JD supposed to run away with the C championship this year? Gone. When I last checked their record Islip was not undefeated...

CSH has a chance. If Mt Sinai's face off kid wasnt suspended I don't think Islip gets out of Suffolk. Besides the fact that somehow section 11 let Islip have a home game even though they were a lower seed! Islip is a really good, should be a good game.

It wasn't a "Home" game. Islip H.S. was chosen because of capacity long before season started because usual site - Stony Brook University hosted womens NCAA D1 Championship this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Did you really think Syosset was going to beat Massapequa? It didnt take Nostradamus to perdict that one.

Now lets see how the Long Island Championships go.

Massapequa vs Ward Melville

Garden City vs Harborfields

Cold Spring Harbor vs Islip

Suffolk sweep!

No love for class D?
Oyster Bay vs Mattituck

LOOKS LIKE A NASSAU BEATDOWN. 4 for 4 Suffolk the Bridemaids this year, acrosse all 4 games

To the WM Patriots
Hats off on a great game. Congrats on your LI title. Good luck on your repeat journey.
Pequa Dad

Thank you. Tell your goalie he played awesome!

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOOKS LIKE A NASSAU BEATDOWN. 4 for 4 Suffolk the Bridemaids this year, acrosse all 4 games

Uhhh.........wrong. But you gave everyone a good laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Wait til coaches kid joins squad next year. Watch 8th graders dominate field time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

[quote=Anonymous]Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

Massapequa will win Nassau again next year
Farmingdale will be 2nd
Syosset will take 3rd
Port again will be 4th

did I miss something? what was the final of the Mass-Syo game?

Did you really think Syosset was going to beat Massapequa? It didnt take Nostradamus to perdict that one.

Now lets see how the Long Island Championships go.

Massapequa vs Ward Melville

Garden City vs Harborfields

Cold Spring Harbor vs Islip

Suffolk sweep!

No love for class D?
Oyster Bay vs Mattituck

Because its a Joke, Oyster Bay is 0-10 in conference, no competition?

Suffolk lacrosse has two good schools. The rest are trash at best. Nassau way deeper county in all the clases

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Wait til coaches kid joins squad next year. Watch 8th graders dominate field time.

And watch them lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad Pequa is not about playing the best kids, teachers kids only apply .sad

Wait til the coaches kid joins V Squad next year.. hope your kid is on defense

Hmmmm......Im thinking you are the same uninformed daddy that called the Nassau sweep.----Wrong again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk lacrosse has two good schools. The rest are trash at best. Nassau way deeper county in all the clases

You are ignorant. Hills West Beat Port Washington, but was knocked out of the first round of the playoffs. There are many more examples of the parity is Suffolk. No reason to put down a whole county to make up for your inequities. I grew up in Nassau, and now live in Suffolk. It is not only deep, but some of the lower division teams could beat many of the upper division teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk lacrosse has two good schools. The rest are trash at best. Nassau way deeper county in all the clases

You are ignorant. Hills West Beat Port Washington, but was knocked out of the first round of the playoffs. There are many more examples of the parity is Suffolk. No reason to put down a whole county to make up for your inequities. I grew up in Nassau, and now live in Suffolk. It is not only deep, but some of the lower division teams could beat many of the upper division teams.

What dumb statement!!! I am from Nassau county and Suffolk is stronger in Class A by far. Nassau class A is a joke of a division. And rest of Nassau divisions are 2 or 3 horse race. Suffolk is stronger!!

Islip vs. CSH was a great game. Shame either team had to lose. Go Islip, represent LI. b

Hoping this is just a kid talking being a sore loser. If not, so nice to see the ignorance back with the anonymous quotes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk lacrosse has two good schools. The rest are trash at best. Nassau way deeper county in all the clases

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

3rd year head coach vs. a bunch of 15+ year guys. Last I checked only 1 teams wins Conference A, and it hasn't been Farmingdale in 7 years....wont be Syosset ever again...."Weak coach," with kids going to good schools and families that respect him for teaching our kids how to do things the right ; I'll take it.

There should be a power conference or tournament of champions to have a real state champion. take cham and ants, put them in; top 3 from each class nassau and suffolk. No one needs to travel off the island and play great games every week. It’s wasteful to have these schoools who are know for having terrible lacrosse continuing playing these top teams, it doesn’t help either of the sides. Opinions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

3rd year head coach vs. a bunch of 15+ year guys. Last I checked only 1 teams wins Conference A, and it hasn't been Farmingdale in 7 years....wont be Syosset ever again...."Weak coach," with kids going to good schools and families that respect him for teaching our kids how to do things the right ; I'll take it.

Only a 3rd year coach that has had 2 seasons of controversy in a row. Wasnt he dismissed at the beginning of the season for conduct detrimental to the team and brought back. Lol. He sure acts like he's been coaching for a long time the way he treats the refs and the way he acts on the sidelines. He has the sideline manner of a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum. This year was Ports chance to make it to the finals and he blew it. Syosset was supposed to be down this year and they still made it to the finals. That's because they have a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Even the finals vs Massapequa was closer than most thought it would be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Soooo....from before the season starts all we hear about how Port?? is going to be a big time winner. And.......year in year out they are not. They lose again. Then they come on talking about how they are glad they lost so they can go boating. Geez

Of all the coaches of the semi finals teams I would say Ports coach is the weakest. He may be in the bottom of the so called top tier programs on Long Island. Has been out coached in every big league game by Farmingdale, Massapequa, and Syosset. He has also been out coached in out of league games by Southside, HHW, and Kellenberg. What big game has he won? None! Losses the 1 goal games time and time again.

3rd year head coach vs. a bunch of 15+ year guys. Last I checked only 1 teams wins Conference A, and it hasn't been Farmingdale in 7 years....wont be Syosset ever again...."Weak coach," with kids going to good schools and families that respect him for teaching our kids how to do things the right ; I'll take it.

Only a 3rd year coach that has had 2 seasons of controversy in a row. Wasnt he dismissed at the beginning of the season for conduct detrimental to the team and brought back. Lol. He sure acts like he's been coaching for a long time the way he treats the refs and the way he acts on the sidelines. He has the sideline manner of a 3 year old throwing a temper tantrum. This year was Ports chance to make it to the finals and he blew it. Syosset was supposed to be down this year and they still made it to the finals. That's because they have a great coach who gets the most out of his players. Even the finals vs Massapequa was closer than most thought it would be.

Yes, a "great" coach who won the LIC in 2016 with 2 btb amazing smack-downs having perhaps the most talented group of Lacrosse players in Syosset HS history and then couldn't win a state championship. Absolute coaching failure.

Thoughts on the LI Top 20 tryout? Saw quite a few college coaches. Lots of kids there!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There should be a power conference or tournament of champions to have a real state champion. take cham and ants, put them in; top 3 from each class nassau and suffolk. No one needs to travel off the island and play great games every week. It’s wasteful to have these schoools who are know for having terrible lacrosse continuing playing these top teams, it doesn’t help either of the sides. Opinions?

I dont think you need to put Cham and STA in a conference with Publics. Nassau has some flexibility to play OOC games but I do think the Suffolk A schools need to have more than a 2 game flex of OOC games. Out of 16 games make 6 OOC (2 Nassua, 1 cham/STA, 1 CT, 1 Suffolk B/C, 1 floater). Please tell me why you cant do that, what, you can make 10 competitive games in your conference. Probably would be the best thing for the conference and actually grow the game. Imagine that. That would be killer and foster a real national power conference.

You do know in Suffolk Power points dictate playoffs anyway. Maybe do a 6 in conference wins to make you eligible for playoff. Still make power points and ranks what selects the teams. and why the power points, so a PatMed/WFloyd/Lindy or Whitman do not get rewarded for a weak schedule.

As far a only 3 teams, I think that just proved that Suffolk is deeper and better than Nassau. Suffolk has 5+ that could should be included at any year. In A/B/C. I dont think pulling top 3 does anything. At any point who really was the top 3 in Suffolk A. Melville, SWest, Quott, HHHEast, WIslip. Same can be said in B/C. But at the end of the day these are kids on the field and anything is possible.

I will also say IMHO Suffolk is deeper and stronger as a collective whole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There should be a power conference or tournament of champions to have a real state champion. take cham and ants, put them in; top 3 from each class nassau and suffolk. No one needs to travel off the island and play great games every week. It’s wasteful to have these schoools who are know for having terrible lacrosse continuing playing these top teams, it doesn’t help either of the sides. Opinions?

I dont think you need to put Cham and STA in a conference with Publics. Nassau has some flexibility to play OOC games but I do think the Suffolk A schools need to have more than a 2 game flex of OOC games. Out of 16 games make 6 OOC (2 Nassua, 1 cham/STA, 1 CT, 1 Suffolk B/C, 1 floater). Please tell me why you cant do that, what, you can make 10 competitive games in your conference. Probably would be the best thing for the conference and actually grow the game. Imagine that. That would be killer and foster a real national power conference.

You do know in Suffolk Power points dictate playoffs anyway. Maybe do a 6 in conference wins to make you eligible for playoff. Still make power points and ranks what selects the teams. and why the power points, so a PatMed/WFloyd/Lindy or Whitman do not get rewarded for a weak schedule.

As far a only 3 teams, I think that just proved that Suffolk is deeper and better than Nassau. Suffolk has 5+ that could should be included at any year. In A/B/C. I dont think pulling top 3 does anything. At any point who really was the top 3 in Suffolk A. Melville, SWest, Quott, HHHEast, WIslip. Same can be said in B/C. But at the end of the day these are kids on the field and anything is possible.

I will also say IMHO Suffolk is deeper and stronger as a collective whole.

Not In order
Garden City
Farmingdale
Manhasset
Pequa
Syo
Who is Suffolk top 5

I see that WM is top HS in the nation on that poll. I don’t much about those elite programs culver , Hill Academy , Salisbury , bullis etc etc. How would the match up of those teams vs Long Island teams your jersey teams delbarton etc , or those Maryland schools like boys Latin etc. I saw that national final game on news 12 varsity and the game before was Hills east game and what a difference , How would ny teams compare ? thx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see that WM is top HS in the nation on that poll. I don’t much about those elite programs culver , Hill Academy , Salisbury , bullis etc etc. How would the match up of those teams vs Long Island teams your jersey teams delbarton etc , or those Maryland schools like boys Latin etc. I saw that national final game on news 12 varsity and the game before was Hills east game and what a difference , How would ny teams compare ? thx

Difficult to judge as the private schools have PG players which gives them a advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see that WM is top HS in the nation on that poll. I don’t much about those elite programs culver , Hill Academy , Salisbury , bullis etc etc. How would the match up of those teams vs Long Island teams your jersey teams delbarton etc , or those Maryland schools like boys Latin etc. I saw that national final game on news 12 varsity and the game before was Hills east game and what a difference , How would ny teams compare ? thx

They would have a hard time because of the age difference, because of the hold backs, reclassified, not good enough on their own age cheaters.

CSH not in that group ? That's funny that Syosset is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH not in that group ? That's funny that Syosset is.

based on last 5 years the list should start with CSH, then GC /Pequa and then everybody else IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH not in that group ? That's funny that Syosset is.

That’s funny that Syosset gave CSH a beat down this year .... why not ask about one of the schools that were mentioned that CSH actually beat this year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH not in that group ? That's funny that Syosset is.

That’s funny that Syosset gave CSH a beat down this year .... why not ask about one of the schools that were mentioned that CSH actually beat this year ?

My fault, truly had a brain fart, clearly should be there.

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Anyone at either of the 4pm games?
Updates if possible, please

Pleasantville and Garden City in runaways.

Ward Melville winning 12-2 https://twitter.com/lisportsnews 3rd quarter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Mt Sinai is definitely better than SE and right there with Islip.

Nike top 25 poll is a joke Torrey Pines (CA) rank 13th please, at least 15 teams on LI would beat them. they played Darien lost 13 t 4. Look at Niskayan rank 22nd 19 and 1.Smoked by WM 20 T 1

Way to go LI ............. sweep yesterday in A, B and C. Finals will be much tougher. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Mt Sinai is definitely better than SE and right there with Islip.

So you picked the ONE down year SE has had over the last 10 (because they are an extremely young team) to prop up Mt Sinai? Overall SE is a better lacrosse program and needs to be included over Mt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nike top 25 poll is a joke Torrey Pines (CA) rank 13th please, at least 15 teams on LI would beat them. they played Darien lost 13 t 4. Look at Niskayan rank 22nd 19 and 1.Smoked by WM 20 T 1

niskayan score idicates they are as good as the bottom 5 of suffolk A. maybe move 5 from A to that league?give them a chance to make a playoff!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Mt Sinai is definitely better than SE and right there with Islip.

So you picked the ONE down year SE has had over the last 10 (because they are an extremely young team) to prop up Mt Sinai? Overall SE is a better lacrosse program and needs to be included over Mt.

Slim shot to make the state final, yes. But, sounds like your team or whoever you root for is scared to enter. Many of these teams if not all would love the competition, throws away all of these terrible games the kids don’t want to play in. Ask any of these coaches or players this it what they want. I totally agree with the teams this guy put out there should be no arguments about them. All these kids play club on different teams together and now finally get to see who is the best, no matter the class size.

Each year the coaches meet and give a review of returners at that meeting one could determine who goes in, but if you want a true indication, have a flex schedule so team's making a run can be included and play a team in the power conference. In A Riverhead and Bay Shore could be seen as top 5 teams. They were both young and return a boat load with experience.

SE is a good example, will they be a top 5 team the next two years? Doubt it. Don't go by history, go by what their future looks like.

I know I have a sleeper team next year, just like Islip this year ( sleeper in the sense of a one off, not sleeper in team just showed up, many knew Islip would prove well).

To many 2019 has started. WM will be favored, Suffolk will be favored.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Mt Sinai is definitely better than SE and right there with Islip.

So you picked the ONE down year SE has had over the last 10 (because they are an extremely young team) to prop up Mt Sinai? Overall SE is a better lacrosse program and needs to be included over Mt.

Yes, in the posters “imaginary” super league. Come on dude. It’s as legit as a cartoon. Who cares, I think it should be a league of Unicorns and dragons, both scenarios are equal, because neither will ever happen.

The one consistent thing in this sport is the jealousy and bitterness. Talking to a guy who's kids never developed into decent athletes all he can to is try to diminish the accomplishments of other kids. It is really sad. Looks to find fault with the best academic schools in the country while trying to elevate the school his older ones attend (average school) non-athletes (were not strong in HS ) . knows very little but thinks he is an expert.

One of the people who are rooting against the kids who excell. Sad

Congratulations are due to all the boys who played their hearts out this season.

Long Island can be very proud with its success this year at the state tournament.

Class A Champions Ward Melville (sec 11) wins it 15-2 over West Genesse

Class B Champions Garden City (sec 8) wins it 7-6 over Victor

Class C Champions Islip (sec 11) 9-3 over Westhill

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The one consistent thing in this sport is the jealousy and bitterness. Talking to a guy who's kids never developed into decent athletes all he can to is try to diminish the accomplishments of other kids. It is really sad. Looks to find fault with the best academic schools in the country while trying to elevate the school his older ones attend (average school) non-athletes (were not strong in HS ) . knows very little but thinks he is an expert.

One of the people who are rooting against the kids who excell. Sad

What???

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

Call me if you would like 516.330.5485 would love to chat

-Peter O.

I just wanted to go back and check this post to make sure I gave my correct phone number (I did) yet shockingly I have not heard from this person yet.

Congratulations WM - GC - Islip on great seasons and I hope everyone (except this keyboard touch guy) has a great summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau
GC
Set
Pequa
CSH
Toss up between syo/dale

Suffolk
WM
Islip
SE
SW
WI
Class B and C have no other teams that would be a threat.

Throw ants and Cham in there, and you will have a true LI champion. About 12 teams in total, 8 make the playoffs. Thoughts?

So basically those teams/schools/communities have a slim shot at a State Championship every year. Playing a brutal schedule to hopefully win 4 games. Sounds like fun

Mt Sinai is definitely better than SE and right there with Islip.

So you picked the ONE down year SE has had over the last 10 (because they are an extremely young team) to prop up Mt Sinai? Overall SE is a better lacrosse program and needs to be included over Mt.

Slim shot to make the state final, yes. But, sounds like your team or whoever you root for is scared to enter. Many of these teams if not all would love the competition, throws away all of these terrible games the kids don’t want to play in. Ask any of these coaches or players this it what they want. I totally agree with the teams this guy put out there should be no arguments about them. All these kids play club on different teams together and now finally get to see who is the best, no matter the class size.

Sounds like your school or whoever YOU root for is the #5-8 team in their conference and need to get rid of the big dogs to get a sniff of a Conference Championship, why don’t you move to a town with a winner? Or is yours not good enough to get on the field at one of those schools?

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

Call me if you would like 516.330.5485 would love to chat

-Peter O.

I just wanted to go back and check this post to make sure I gave my correct phone number (I did) yet shockingly I have not heard from this person yet.

Congratulations WM - GC - Islip on great seasons and I hope everyone (except this keyboard touch guy) has a great summer

Love this, thx Pete ! I know a lot of us wish we knew who this complete coward is and u made the fact that he is a coward completely obvious . Calling out and constantly making fun of kids & then can’t man up himself after all the trash talk. I don’t think it’s a Syo parent, think it’s a jealous dad from a town that can’t beat Syo but I guess we’ll never know

Conference championships and power conferences are a great idea. Adding St. Anthony's and Chaminade into that isnt a bad idea, but not necessary. IMHO, if you do that their lax programs may steadily decrease. (bring on all the comments of the kids who would have went to the school anyway, Chaminade maybe!) I think it is only a bonus for the publics to play them. I also believe the top Publics should play at least one of them.

I think the biggest point of all of this is, you just dont bless teams solely on their history, but rather, rank them on what is in the pipeline for that coming year. The coaches and kids know who will be good or at least contenders.

Connetquot is a great example. They were real good the last 4 years one of the best in Suffolk A. not sure how the next two years will be.

One could say the same about Smithtown East, will they be good or will they be in the muck and in a dog fight for the 3rd spot and wind up in the ninth spot. They have talent all over but so does upstart Riverhead. Young Goalie with an experienced D returning. Good fogo with some offensive threats. How do you Pick SE over Riverhead? Then you have Bay Shore and West Islip (talk about history), both with great goalie play, returning impact defenders and various offensive weapons. Not sure how you can pick SE over any of those 3 teams. That is why you play the games

The only two i think you can bless as Power Conference teams in A will be Ward Melville and Smithtown West, but again that is because they have returning talent. That doesnt mean the rest of the division will be weak, I think it will be the closest race in years with the top 6 teams.

Instead of your power conference create a tournament of champions like they have in NJ.
Class A v. Class D
Class B v. Class C
Winners play each other
Winner of that game plays catholic champ
There is your true NY State Cham.
IMHO it would of been a rematch between WM and nade

Where are the All American, All County etc. Players posted now that the season is over.

Whats with Newsdays All Long island team Nassau player of the year selection?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the All American, All County etc. Players posted now that the season is over.

Whats with Newsdays All Long island team Nassau player of the year selection?

I believe it can be found on NCLCA page or Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association

Saw the write ups of 2019 and 2020 "standouts" from this past weekends Main Event in LI. I have always been curious how these self proclaimed recruiting "experts" can see so 50+ games and form an honest, subjective evaluation. My theory is 1) the club coaches feed them info on guys they want to promote or 2) they happen to catch a player doing something great during the half they happen to be on the sidelines and they get mentioned as having a great overall tournament. Something doesnt add up.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the All American, All County etc. Players posted now that the season is over.

Whats with Newsdays All Long island team Nassau player of the year selection?

I believe it can be found on NCLCA page or Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw the write ups of 2019 and 2020 "standouts" from this past weekends Main Event in LI. I have always been curious how these self proclaimed recruiting "experts" can see so 50+ games and form an honest, subjective evaluation. My theory is 1) the club coaches feed them info on guys they want to promote or 2) they happen to catch a player doing something great during the half they happen to be on the sidelines and they get mentioned as having a great overall tournament. Something doesnt add up.

Where were there write up on the standouts. Just curious.

HHH HSE has to make this list, among the best teams in Suffolk and in the nation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw the write ups of 2019 and 2020 "standouts" from this past weekends Main Event in LI. I have always been curious how these self proclaimed recruiting "experts" can see so 50+ games and form an honest, subjective evaluation. My theory is 1) the club coaches feed them info on guys they want to promote or 2) they happen to catch a player doing something great during the half they happen to be on the sidelines and they get mentioned as having a great overall tournament. Something doesnt add up.

Where were there write up on the standouts. Just curious.

On the NLF twitter feed. They control their own social media and which players get written up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HHH HSE has to make this list, among the best teams in Suffolk and in the nation.

Is there a new team HSE?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw the write ups of 2019 and 2020 "standouts" from this past weekends Main Event in LI. I have always been curious how these self proclaimed recruiting "experts" can see so 50+ games and form an honest, subjective evaluation. My theory is 1) the club coaches feed them info on guys they want to promote or 2) they happen to catch a player doing something great during the half they happen to be on the sidelines and they get mentioned as having a great overall tournament. Something doesnt add up.

Where were there write up on the standouts. Just curious.

On the NLF twitter feed. They control their own social media and which players get written up.

Will they be overhyping the double holdback that got all country, and then brag “he’s only in 8th grade” too? Give me a break with this nonsense

Congratulations to all the boys who competed this year ! Shout out to the State Championship Teams.

Congrats to all who earned recognition:

All-Division
All-County
All-Long Island
US Lacrosse All-American
UA All-American

Good luck to all who are going to play at the next level.

Good luck to all the underclassmen this summer and next year.

Great year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw the write ups of 2019 and 2020 "standouts" from this past weekends Main Event in LI. I have always been curious how these self proclaimed recruiting "experts" can see so 50+ games and form an honest, subjective evaluation. My theory is 1) the club coaches feed them info on guys they want to promote or 2) they happen to catch a player doing something great during the half they happen to be on the sidelines and they get mentioned as having a great overall tournament. Something doesnt add up.

Where were there write up on the standouts. Just curious.

On the NLF twitter feed. They control their own social media and which players get written up.

Will they be overhyping the double holdback that got all country, and then brag “he’s only in 8th grade” too? Give me a break with this nonsense

He won't be able to play NYS public school sports as senior since his 19th birthday is before he graduates... karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to all the boys who competed this year ! Shout out to the State Championship Teams.

Congrats to all who earned recognition:

All-Division
All-County
All-Long Island
US Lacrosse All-American
UA All-American

Good luck to all who are going to play at the next level.

Good luck to all the underclassmen this summer and next year.

Great year!

Yes, good luck to all, but I have to give a "way to go" to one boy in particular. Of all the things I heard last night, and many had amazing credentials - That one boy, and take nothing away from the other Academic All-American's, but that one kid, the moderator could have just did a mike drop after announcing his name.

I dont know the kid, but sure seemed like he is going places ,very impressed with his list of achievements!!! Now that is getting it done "on and off" the field. He got plenty of on field accolades too but what I took away was his academics. Nice to see all those boys get rewarded for their classroom performance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to all the boys who competed this year ! Shout out to the State Championship Teams.

Congrats to all who earned recognition:

All-Division
All-County
All-Long Island
US Lacrosse All-American
UA All-American

Good luck to all who are going to play at the next level.

Good luck to all the underclassmen this summer and next year.

Great year!

Yes, good luck to all, but I have to give a "way to go" to one boy in particular. Of all the things I heard last night, and many had amazing credentials - That one boy, and take nothing away from the other Academic All-American's, but that one kid, the moderator could have just did a mike drop after announcing his name.

I dont know the kid, but sure seemed like he is going places ,very impressed with his list of achievements!!! Now that is getting it done "on and off" the field. He got plenty of on field accolades too but what I took away was his academics. Nice to see all those boys get rewarded for their classroom performance.

Can someone please tell me how Syo gets 2 A American on Defense, gave up 99 goals in 17 games. Pequa 82 goals in 17 games? and beat them twice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to all the boys who competed this year ! Shout out to the State Championship Teams.

Congrats to all who earned recognition:

All-Division
All-County
All-Long Island
US Lacrosse All-American
UA All-American

Good luck to all who are going to play at the next level.

Good luck to all the underclassmen this summer and next year.

Great year!

Yes, good luck to all, but I have to give a "way to go" to one boy in particular. Of all the things I heard last night, and many had amazing credentials - That one boy, and take nothing away from the other Academic All-American's, but that one kid, the moderator could have just did a mike drop after announcing his name.

I dont know the kid, but sure seemed like he is going places ,very impressed with his list of achievements!!! Now that is getting it done "on and off" the field. He got plenty of on field accolades too but what I took away was his academics. Nice to see all those boys get rewarded for their classroom performance.

Can someone please tell me how Syo gets 2 A American on Defense, gave up 99 goals in 17 games. Pequa 82 goals in 17 games? and beat them twice

You do know your coach sits down with all the other coaches and determines these awards.

There is bias going on there is always politicics involved
It is under fortunate but it the way of the world.
No way around it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is bias going on there is always politicics involved
It is under fortunate but it the way of the world.
No way around it

The same as the Long Island Showcase. If your coach wasn't there, you had no chance of making it. They even put the kids who they knew they didn't want on the second field with nobody looking at them. It is incredible at how biased they can be, and still ask for your money.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is bias going on there is always politicics involved
It is under fortunate but it the way of the world.
No way around it

The same as the Long Island Showcase. If your coach wasn't there, you had no chance of making it. They even put the kids who they knew they didn't want on the second field with nobody looking at them. It is incredible at how biased they can be, and still ask for your money.

My son's coach was not there, and he made it through.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is bias going on there is always politicics involved
It is under fortunate but it the way of the world.
No way around it

The same as the Long Island Showcase. If your coach wasn't there, you had no chance of making it. They even put the kids who they knew they didn't want on the second field with nobody looking at them. It is incredible at how biased they can be, and still ask for your money.

My son's coach was not there, and he made it through.

Long Island Showcase is such a b.s. event. True money grab. Let's put it this way, if your coach is coaching at the event you have much greater odds of making the team. Its really embarrassing how they show their bias right out in the open for everyone to see. Those involved should be embarrassed!! Dont waste your money on this event.

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

Daddy ball, thats how. 90% of all these "All Counties" crash and burn come college. Look at the stats.

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

Call me if you would like 516.330.5485 would love to chat

-Peter O.

I just wanted to go back and check this post to make sure I gave my correct phone number (I did) yet shockingly I have not heard from this person yet.

Congratulations WM - GC - Islip on great seasons and I hope everyone (except this keyboard touch guy) has a great summer

hey [ChillLaxin] e how about this. your son plays on a b team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

if you are going to call out things at least call out the school or coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

Call me if you would like 516.330.5485 would love to chat

-Peter O.

I just wanted to go back and check this post to make sure I gave my correct phone number (I did) yet shockingly I have not heard from this person yet.

Congratulations WM - GC - Islip on great seasons and I hope everyone (except this keyboard touch guy) has a great summer

hey [ChillLaxin] e how about this. your son plays on a b team.

You should be embarrassed by this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

Daddy ball, thats how. 90% of all these "All Counties" crash and burn come college. Look at the stats.

Can you show some facts about 90% of all County players fail? I looked and couldn’t find it. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Dickie Dunn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Capt Underpants Team with an embarrassing loss... Where were all those big time commits and the AA? I guess they all vaporized under the pressure.

Sad.

Please log in, send me a PM and we can discuss at great detail your obsession with Syosset and my son, I would be willing to bet that you are not a random anonymous poster from another town that just hates Syo but rather a Syo parent not happy with who plays and who doesn't/didn't.

Call me if you would like 516.330.5485 would love to chat

-Peter O.

I just wanted to go back and check this post to make sure I gave my correct phone number (I did) yet shockingly I have not heard from this person yet.

Congratulations WM - GC - Islip on great seasons and I hope everyone (except this keyboard touch guy) has a great summer

hey [ChillLaxin] e how about this. your son plays on a b team.

You should be embarrassed by this.

syosset varsity is in the championship game at laxfest!!! congrats.

Yeah in the B division...lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

Daddy ball, thats how. 90% of all these "All Counties" crash and burn come college. Look at the stats.

All County has nothing to do nor does it predict success at the next level - also stats are part of the story but unless you see the team play you can not judge a players worth to the team, many two way middies have great season without great statistics - many Heisman Trophy winners do not have great NFL careers it does not mean that they were not the best college player that year. There are so many All County players it is inevitable that many will not have "great" college careers it does not take away from their high school careers. IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Ok I will bite. What's so stupid about what was said . There were players who had more points and played a more important role on his own team. 2 players had more points on his own team 1 had the same. There were 15 players in the Privates that had more points than him. Now on the Nassau public side there were over 40 players with more points and a few who won it all in their respective divisions. Usually the player who wins Nassau Player of the Year has done something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Ok I will bite. What's so stupid about what was said . There were players who had more points and played a more important role on his own team. 2 players had more points on his own team 1 had the same. There were 15 players in the Privates that had more points than him. Now on the Nassau public side there were over 40 players with more points and a few who won it all in their respective divisions. Usually the player who wins Nassau Player of the Year has done something.

I'm going to chime in her. I must agree. The picks for these awards are politically dominated. So many more deserving kids left out. It is what it is. Don't get so worked up about it, because nobody cares about this stuff when they get to college. Become an ALL-American there, where it actually counts as an impressive achievement. The majority of these "coaches favorites" will disappear into oblivion soon enough!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Ok I will bite. What's so stupid about what was said . There were players who had more points and played a more important role on his own team. 2 players had more points on his own team 1 had the same. There were 15 players in the Privates that had more points than him. Now on the Nassau public side there were over 40 players with more points and a few who won it all in their respective divisions. Usually the player who wins Nassau Player of the Year has done something.

I'm going to chime in her. I must agree. The picks for these awards are politically dominated. So many more deserving kids left out. It is what it is. Don't get so worked up about it, because nobody cares about this stuff when they get to college. Become an ALL-American there, where it actually counts as an impressive achievement. The majority of these "coaches favorites" will disappear into oblivion soon enough!

I know it's easy to say dont get worked up but there are kids that have busted their rears to put up great numbers. They also put them up in big moments who were and are deserving of some of these accolades. It's a shame that these awards are so politically influenced.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Ok I will bite. What's so stupid about what was said . There were players who had more points and played a more important role on his own team. 2 players had more points on his own team 1 had the same. There were 15 players in the Privates that had more points than him. Now on the Nassau public side there were over 40 players with more points and a few who won it all in their respective divisions. Usually the player who wins Nassau Player of the Year has done something.

I'm going to chime in her. I must agree. The picks for these awards are politically dominated. So many more deserving kids left out. It is what it is. Don't get so worked up about it, because nobody cares about this stuff when they get to college. Become an ALL-American there, where it actually counts as an impressive achievement. The majority of these "coaches favorites" will disappear into oblivion soon enough!

I know it's easy to say dont get worked up but there are kids that have busted their rears to put up great numbers. They also put them up in big moments who were and are deserving of some of these accolades. It's a shame that these awards are so politically influenced.

Agreed 100%. Unfortunately life's not fair. My kids had to learn that, keep working hard, and prove people wrong. That is the best feeling!

My son's coach also was not there, he does not know anyone and he also made it through the first round. He had 4-5 ground balls, 2-3 assists and 2 goals. Hopefully he makes it through the final round. It ain't rocket science, if you produce then you make it. Another starter on his travel team did great, got a few ground balls, forced a bunch of turnovers, but he took a lot of shots, did not pass and did not want to come off the field. Surprise, surprise...that kid did not make it. Other than a few known top players who are already recruited obviously making it through, it seemed very fair.

I am talking about the HSE team that was the only team to beat Ward Melville during the regular season and lost (yes, by a lot) to Ward Melville in the Championship.

It’s good to know only a couple of BOTC posters son’s “busted their jerks”, all off season while all the other kids just coasted along and did nothing but collect post season awards. Also good to know your son is a “points” machine, it means he is absolutely the best player in Nassau. Truth is, every kid busted their jerks. Truth is just because your son is the points leader it means nothing. Who did he score against? Who did he play? Was he a selfish player? Did his team win because of him? Or did they lose because of him? Is he anything like his father? A petty and angry little jealous man who thinks because his son has a lot of points he should be Nassau POY over a great player and fine young man? A kid who generated wins for his team because of his ability and unselfish play! A great teammate too. Just something to ponder you arrogant hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Conference championships and power conferences are a great idea. Adding St. Anthony's and Chaminade into that isnt a bad idea, but not necessary. IMHO, if you do that their lax programs may steadily decrease. (bring on all the comments of the kids who would have went to the school anyway, Chaminade maybe!) I think it is only a bonus for the publics to play them. I also believe the top Publics should play at least one of them.

I think the biggest point of all of this is, you just dont bless teams solely on their history, but rather, rank them on what is in the pipeline for that coming year. The coaches and kids know who will be good or at least contenders.

Connetquot is a great example. They were real good the last 4 years one of the best in Suffolk A. not sure how the next two years will be.

One could say the same about Smithtown East, will they be good or will they be in the muck and in a dog fight for the 3rd spot and wind up in the ninth spot. They have talent all over but so does upstart Riverhead. Young Goalie with an experienced D returning. Good fogo with some offensive threats. How do you Pick SE over Riverhead? Then you have Bay Shore and West Islip (talk about history), both with great goalie play, returning impact defenders and various offensive weapons. Not sure how you can pick SE over any of those 3 teams. That is why you play the games

The only two i think you can bless as Power Conference teams in A will be Ward Melville and Smithtown West, but again that is because they have returning talent. That doesnt mean the rest of the division will be weak, I think it will be the closest race in years with the top 6 teams.

What has Smithtown West ever done besides disappoint their obnoxious parents ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s good to know only a couple of BOTC posters son’s “busted their jerks”, all off season while all the other kids just coasted along and did nothing but collect post season awards. Also good to know your son is a “points” machine, it means he is absolutely the best player in Nassau. Truth is, every kid busted their jerks. Truth is just because your son is the points leader it means nothing. Who did he score against? Who did he play? Was he a selfish player? Did his team win because of him? Or did they lose because of him? Is he anything like his father? A petty and angry little jealous man who thinks because his son has a lot of points he should be Nassau POY over a great player and fine young man? A kid who generated wins for his team because of his ability and unselfish play! A great teammate too. Just something to ponder you arrogant hammerhead.

Not original poster BUT I think if you took that kid off Chaminde they maybe lose one other game. Take away Pequa FO kid they lose at least 4 other games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am talking about the HSE team that was the only team to beat Ward Melville during the regular season and lost (yes, by a lot) to Ward Melville in the Championship.

Thanks for the 'timely" clarification, I have never heard Half Hollow Hills East abbreviated as HSE, I can not even logically think of what the "S" stands for - I have always thought it was HHHE - and while we are laxplaining things how does a person know if SE is Sachem East or Smithtown East ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s good to know only a couple of BOTC posters son’s “busted their jerks”, all off season while all the other kids just coasted along and did nothing but collect post season awards. Also good to know your son is a “points” machine, it means he is absolutely the best player in Nassau. Truth is, every kid busted their jerks. Truth is just because your son is the points leader it means nothing. Who did he score against? Who did he play? Was he a selfish player? Did his team win because of him? Or did they lose because of him? Is he anything like his father? A petty and angry little jealous man who thinks because his son has a lot of points he should be Nassau POY over a great player and fine young man? A kid who generated wins for his team because of his ability and unselfish play! A great teammate too. Just something to ponder you arrogant hammerhead.

There were players who if they were not on their team the team would not have been as successful as they were. Like winning a State Championship!!! Reputation does not make for player of the year. It's the performance on the field. A particular players team wins state championship has 13 points in the final 4 games of which were all playoff games and to become the inevitable State Champ. Had almost double the points with a nice split of goals vs assists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am talking about the HSE team that was the only team to beat Ward Melville during the regular season and lost (yes, by a lot) to Ward Melville in the Championship.

Thanks for the 'timely" clarification, I have never heard Half Hollow Hills East abbreviated as HSE, I can not even logically think of what the "S" stands for - I have always thought it was HHHE - and while we are laxplaining things how does a person know if SE is Sachem East or Smithtown East ?

I think if you live in the area its referred to as High School East and High School West so HSE and HSW.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is bias going on there is always politicics involved
It is under fortunate but it the way of the world.
No way around it

The same as the Long Island Showcase. If your coach wasn't there, you had no chance of making it. They even put the kids who they knew they didn't want on the second field with nobody looking at them. It is incredible at how biased they can be, and still ask for your money.

Our coach wasn't there, and we had 3 boys go to 2nd round and 2 boys to the game yesterday. There is politics, but sometimes talent transcends that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am talking about the HSE team that was the only team to beat Ward Melville during the regular season and lost (yes, by a lot) to Ward Melville in the Championship.

Thanks for the 'timely" clarification, I have never heard Half Hollow Hills East abbreviated as HSE, I can not even logically think of what the "S" stands for - I have always thought it was HHHE - and while we are laxplaining things how does a person know if SE is Sachem East or Smithtown East ?

I think if you live in the area its referred to as High School East and High School West so HSE and HSW.

for who Smithtown or Half Hallows?

HHH schools are known on LI as HHE or HHW. and not sure about how SE comes into play as Sachem East, need to win for that to happen.

what are HS teams doing together this summer, who is going where?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does someone get all county when they shoot 20 for 250

What about the Nassau player of the year 34 points and not even the leading scorer or assist man on his team and let alone was only in top 20 of Private schools and didnt even crack top 45 in Nassau public schools. Its the same thing for a goalie who has a save percentage under 50% and he gets all county.

Stupid statement by a stupid person.

Ok I will bite. What's so stupid about what was said . There were players who had more points and played a more important role on his own team. 2 players had more points on his own team 1 had the same. There were 15 players in the Privates that had more points than him. Now on the Nassau public side there were over 40 players with more points and a few who won it all in their respective divisions. Usually the player who wins Nassau Player of the Year has done something.

All of the recognition / accolades are great. Is it fair? No. Please stop with the "Points" nonsense there is much more to the game than points.

All County: Kind of everybody gets a trophy unless of course you are from a top team. There are players from Garden City, Ward Melville, Manhasset, Massapequa etc... that receive no recognition and they are better than 75% of the All -County Selections. Not taking anything away from the award but it is what it is.

All-Long Island: Great honor and recognition.

US Lacrosse All-American: Great honor and recognition (especially from LI) but coaches do collaborate and selection is extremely political.

Under Armour All-American: Highest honor and most selective. Earned mostly over time on the summer circuit. Competing in and performing well in UA Underclass games helps. People who decide are watching players compete against the best players in the country.

All-Long Island, All-American and Under Armour All-American are all extremely difficult to earn and as with most things in life politics (the human element) does play a role. That said, All of the players earning the recognition are deserving.

As for predicting the future.... of the 2018 Division I First Team All-Americans (there are 17). 15 were US Lacrosse All Americans in HS. (Teet is Canadian. Not sure about Tinny). 10 were Under Armour All-Americans as seniors. The 10 plus 3 who were Under Armour Underclass All-Americans gives you 13 UAAA's.

Congratulations to all of the players who were recognized and best of luck in the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are HS teams doing together this summer, who is going where?

Several are doing the summer league in Huntington. Syosset, Northport, Hills West, Kings Park, St Dominics, Commack, Harborfields

Where can we find the All Americans listed ?
How are they do different from the All Long Island Newsday team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can we find the All Americans listed ?
How are they do different from the All Long Island Newsday team ?

For US Lacrosse All-Americans (Nassau/Suffolk).

Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association website.

Section XI website.

Not sure about the Catholic / Private Schools.

US Lacrosse determins how many from each region. Nassau gets 9. Suffolk gets 8.
HS coach nominates player. Coaches / Commitee vote to determine who is selected.

Newsday selects the All-Long Players.
There is no nomination.

Under Armour: players must be nominated. HS coaches / club coaches generally do the nominating but I believe athletic directors can also submit a nomination.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can we find the All Americans listed ?
How are they do different from the All Long Island Newsday team ?

For Nassau, go to Nassau coaches association.

What about the Franklin Square “Elite” league
How is that going? I see it on tourney machine
But they don’t update the varsity scores

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

AA Breakdowns
Nassau 4 Defense, 2 LSM, 1 FOGO, 1 Middie and 1 Attack
Suffolk 0 Defense, 1 LSM, 0 FOGO, 3 Middie and 4 Attack

Nassau 5 2018, 2 2019, 2 2020
Suffolk 6 2018, 2 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Dude,
These are individual awards not team awards.
These kids who won these above awards probably would rather have won the states instead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Thank you. I am sure all of the players are excellent and very deserving. Just think it is too much of a good old boy network. Congrats to those who were selected .

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Political...

JC very involved in NCLCA...

How else can he get 2 kids AA status given that Syo did nothing this year.

The fix was in!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Political...

JC very involved in NCLCA...

How else can he get 2 kids AA status given that Syo did nothing this year.

The fix was in!

JC is the president of NCLCA

Oh boy! That Showtime event really went downhill. None of the best players go anymore, and is trying to be a money grab for the younger players. There would be absolutely no reason to attend unless you are a uncommitted 2020 or 2019. What a disappointment seeing those “All Star” rosters. Somebody’s making a lot of money on the backs of kids and parents thinking there’s top competition there.

Half Hollow Hills High School East (HSE) is the official name of the high school. Too many words

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude,
These are individual awards not team awards.
These kids who won these above awards probably would rather have won the states instead.

Yes, I agree, but that would actually require that they play like AAs and win on the field instead of having their dad make a contribution to the booster club in the back room of the bar where the NCLCA convines their selection committee meetings.

How else can you explain the selections this year?

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Holy Crap you know a lot ! As far as the Nassau committee you mentioned a few by name and ANOTHER 5 , I'm just curious why you omitted Syosset or the other 4 by name. Seems a little disingenuous if you know all this info. As far as being All County the prior year that don't hold true for one of the Syosset AA's or the CSH player so I guess you don't know all that much. Congrats to all the boys however they were named to this prestigious list. Politics and backroom deals happen all the time in these things it just stinks for the kid who got humped.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Holy Crap you know a lot ! As far as the Nassau committee you mentioned a few by name and ANOTHER 5 , I'm just curious why you omitted Syosset or the other 4 by name. Seems a little disingenuous if you know all this info. As far as being All County the prior year that don't hold true for one of the Syosset AA's or the CSH player so I guess you don't know all that much. Congrats to all the boys however they were named to this prestigious list. Politics and backroom deals happen all the time in these things it just stinks for the kid who got humped.

Just looked at the suffolk list again... Only one player from Melville? None of their long poles? Did any of the coaches on the selection committee watch that team play? Committee should be ashamed of themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Holy Crap you know a lot ! As far as the Nassau committee you mentioned a few by name and ANOTHER 5 , I'm just curious why you omitted Syosset or the other 4 by name. Seems a little disingenuous if you know all this info. As far as being All County the prior year that don't hold true for one of the Syosset AA's or the CSH player so I guess you don't know all that much. Congrats to all the boys however they were named to this prestigious list. Politics and backroom deals happen all the time in these things it just stinks for the kid who got humped.

How did the kid from Islip committed to Army not get AA?

coach nominates his player. All the coaches vote. Are deals hatched, perhaps but the other coaches VOTE on who gets AA--they aren't appointed. Are there other kids worthy, sure but if they act like dirtbags in a game they will lose a vote (not saying that happened, but a reality).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

coach nominates his player. All the coaches vote. Are deals hatched, perhaps but the other coaches VOTE on who gets AA--they aren't appointed. Are there other kids worthy, sure but if they act like dirtbags in a game they will lose a vote (not saying that happened, but a reality).

you put it out there so who do you believe got crossed off the list for being a db

Of the 7 major awards for the four major pro sports only one player's team won a championship

AL MVP Jose Altuve (Won the WS)

NBA MVP James Harden ( did not make finals)
NHL MVP Taylor Hall (lost in first round)
NL MVP Giancarlo Stanton ( did not make playoffs)
NL CY Max Scherzer (lost in first round)
AL CY Corey Kluber (lost in first round)
NFL MVP Tom Brady (lost in Super bowl)

These are individual awards not team awards

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Ok so here is an example please remember its just a hypothetical scenario. They look to give out 4 All County goalies in class B. There are 2 goalies that really have great stats and team does well. Regardless of wins and losses the goalies really were stand out players. Now there are two more slots and the goalies numbers are below 45% save percentage. Teams did well but not great, how can that player be awarded All County. Just because they award 4 All County goalies. Basically two sub par goalies get awarded All County. Doesnt make sense. Cheapens the award. There is also political factor in that room. You vote for my guy I vote for yours. If anyone tries to deny this they have no clue. I have been in that room.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Holy Crap you know a lot ! As far as the Nassau committee you mentioned a few by name and ANOTHER 5 , I'm just curious why you omitted Syosset or the other 4 by name. Seems a little disingenuous if you know all this info. As far as being All County the prior year that don't hold true for one of the Syosset AA's or the CSH player so I guess you don't know all that much. Congrats to all the boys however they were named to this prestigious list. Politics and backroom deals happen all the time in these things it just stinks for the kid who got humped.

please re-read, he is clearly saying that was the makeup when he was "in the room" and not the current makeup of the committee

"There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed)."

I also think he mis-typed and meant you must be All County to be eligible (not last year but current year)

The best way to get a full understanding about this is to ask your HS coach, he can explain the procedure better then anybody on BOTC

Does anyone know how to find the listings of the Nassau & Suffolk all - county teams. Thx.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From US Lacrosse
Edward Arnold 2020 Defense ManhassetHigh School
Colin Hart 2019 Defense Garden City High School
Tim Hegarty 2018 Defense Farmingdale High School
Nick LiCalzi 2020 Long-Stick Middie South Side High School
Danny Ochs 2018 Defense Syosset High School
Angelo Petrakis 2019 Midfield Massapequa High School
Alex Vardaro 2018 Midfield Hewlett High School
Max Verch 2018 Long-Stick Middie Syosset High School
Kevin Winkoff 2018 Attack Cold Spring Harbor High School
George Wichelns 2018 Attack Connetquot High School
Conor Calderone 2019 Midfield Smithtown West High School
John Sidorski 2019 Attack East Islip High School
Peter LaSalla 2018 Midfield Rocky Point High School
Zach Hobbes 2018 Midfield Ward Melville High School
Bobby Abshire 2018 Midfield Commack High School
Ethan Rall 2018 Long-Stick Middie Islip High School
Kyle Zawadzki 2018 Attack Smithtown West High School

Wow!

#1 Team in the country gets one AA and Syosset who lost to Pequa 2X gets two AAs. (Pequa who beat Syo 2X get only one AA).

I guess JC spends more time lobbying for his players than coaching his team. The results speak for themselves.

What a joke. Waters down the AA title for the other recipients who get and actually have earned the the AA title.

Very political. I usually defend tryouts, travel team selections, Nassau vs suffolk, under Armour etc... Knowing there is always politics to some degree but I think overall they get it right.
The process for US Lacrosse AA is not good.
Agree with above post.

Does anyone know who the coaches are who vote in each county?

There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed). Contingent on the number of schools in your county, they allocate a certain # of AA spots and it does not go by position - there can be only 1 defenseman and the rest all middies or all attackmen. The coaches certainly lobby for their players which they should but 1) the player must be All-County the previous year, 2) the player must be nominated by his HS and 3) the nominated players then get ranked say 1-30 based on the committee's opinions and the players who receive the most and highest votes receive AA and then the next 12 or so players receive Honorable Mention All American and the rest do not receive any other those recognitions so I don't believe that AA is as political as All-County but like anything in life, everything is political... But you need the other coaches to have either watched them play or watch their game film (they have 3 weeks to do so) and see their stats to compare with others and I know that the few coaches on the committee take it very seriously. And I know for certain that a bunch of these schools of where the players go to who earned AA are Not on the committee plus I know a few of these players and they are deserving of this award. In my time and the 5 years before and 4 years after, they got it right so I am sure they got this right with maybe a few players you can debate...

Holy Crap you know a lot ! As far as the Nassau committee you mentioned a few by name and ANOTHER 5 , I'm just curious why you omitted Syosset or the other 4 by name. Seems a little disingenuous if you know all this info. As far as being All County the prior year that don't hold true for one of the Syosset AA's or the CSH player so I guess you don't know all that much. Congrats to all the boys however they were named to this prestigious list. Politics and backroom deals happen all the time in these things it just stinks for the kid who got humped.

please re-read, he is clearly saying that was the makeup when he was "in the room" and not the current makeup of the committee

"There is a committee of coaches who vote in each county (Nassau was CSH, Southside, GC, Bethpage and another 5 or so coaches back in the day but that has definitely changed)."

I also think he mis-typed and meant you must be All County to be eligible (not last year but current year)

The best way to get a full understanding about this is to ask your HS coach, he can explain the procedure better then anybody on BOTC

Great Idea! Ask the Guys responsible how they make the back room deals!

Awesome logic.

AA selection process in Nassau is a joke. Sorry Lax Daddy, your kid likely didn't deserve it, you bought it for him. And he knows it. Sad.

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Reality is that this is the age when the superior athleticism of the boys from the other areas starts to overwhelm the better coaching and earlier start of the Long Island kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

I agree with this. Too many selections based upon the name of the player and or the helmet worn and not the number on the jersey at these tryouts. Its evident that some selections are made based upon reputation before going into tryouts and or season. For the younger players a lot has to do with which club coaches/evaluators are at the tryouts. Seen it way too many times where a particular player who is a good player has a bad tryout but is still selected. This has happened way too often and people seem ok to defend the selection based upon previous performances and not the performance at the tryout. Then why have the tryout! Wouldnt it be great to have tryouts with helmets with no markings and neutral/unbiased evaluators. Never would happen but hey a person can dream.

The senior games are a whole other issue. The players are all good but again for a number of players the selection to this team is based upon reputation. Many of these players were bigger and stronger at a young age and also more skilled because of it. Some of these players like a few from Long Island have had the luck to play on strong teams club and had great coaching at a young age. They also happen to play at very good high schools like Chaminade/91 etc. Please dont get me wrong these players are skilled but they are surrounded by 17 to 18 very good players. This makes it hard to beat these teams. Now at an event like Under Armour where it is a team event but individual play makes a big difference the so called chosen ones were exposed.

So much for All American or player of the year accolades.

JN

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

I agree with this. Too many selections based upon the name of the player and or the helmet worn and not the number on the jersey at these tryouts. Its evident that some selections are made based upon reputation before going into tryouts and or season. For the younger players a lot has to do with which club coaches/evaluators are at the tryouts. Seen it way too many times where a particular player who is a good player has a bad tryout but is still selected. This has happened way too often and people seem ok to defend the selection based upon previous performances and not the performance at the tryout. Then why have the tryout! Wouldnt it be great to have tryouts with helmets with no markings and neutral/unbiased evaluators. Never would happen but hey a person can dream.

The senior games are a whole other issue. The players are all good but again for a number of players the selection to this team is based upon reputation. Many of these players were bigger and stronger at a young age and also more skilled because of it. Some of these players like a few from Long Island have had the luck to play on strong teams club and had great coaching at a young age. They also happen to play at very good high schools like Chaminade/91 etc. Please dont get me wrong these players are skilled but they are surrounded by 17 to 18 very good players. This makes it hard to beat these teams. Now at an event like Under Armour where it is a team event but individual play makes a big difference the so called chosen ones were exposed.

So much for All American or player of the year accolades.

Wow! You basically read my mind. I have been thinking about this a lot. Why do Long Island teams always underperform at UA? Tryouts are Just a money grab, Many of the best kids don’t even try out anymore. I also agree with your assessment of the senior game. How does the supposed “best’ player on LI as proclaimed by Newsday not even get one point??? Wait till these kids get to college, most will never be heard about again. What’s sad is how all we here about is “growing the game” alll lies!

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams (Yorktown for one) told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams (Yorktown for one) told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

These games are also a great way to blend the youth of a program with the experience. Look at the teams in the finals, teams with depth. Leadership of the players need to be there but not at the expense of a college trip or commitment. It was a weekend that exemplifies the phrase Battle of Attrition. Survival of the fittest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

I guess your kid didn't make the team which is why you are making excuses for him then!!

a good player and a good teammate will find the right balance and he has to be a little selfish, IMHO When a kid is not committed he has to be at all the top tournaments, camps and prospect days and sometimes that is at the expense of his HS team, once committed a kid needs to still play and practice against the best players he can but now that he is committed he can pick the HS team even at lesser events when there is a conflict. I have been through this a few times and there is no correct formula, you have to do what is right for yourself. While my son was fortunate to play on a competitive travel team and was invited to top showcase camps if we had it to do all over again we would not go to the showcases and instead go to as many prospect days as possible, all the schools that are a good fit and the ones that have multiple coaches from multiple colleges attending and coaching. the [prospect camp was the best bang for the buck and most exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

I guess your kid didn't make the team which is why you are making excuses for him then!!

Nope, my kid didn’t try out, doesn’t need to. I just enjoy watching the train wreck I anticipated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

I guess your kid didn't make the team which is why you are making excuses for him then!!

Nobody's making excuses, just disagreeing with you when you write "Another disappointment at Under Armour." - pointing out that last year the Boys Command Team won the tournament championship and this year went 3-1 in pool play, so not a huge disappointment or another disappointment. The team didn't advance based on goal differential, but beat Conny and New Jersey, both teams that advanced. All these All Star teams and showcase teams have politics involved. If the team went 1-3 or 2-2 I then think you could call it a disappointment, but to win it last year and go 3-1 this year I think you're being a bit dramatic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

I guess your kid didn't make the team which is why you are making excuses for him then!!

The days of Long Island teams dominating nationwide tournaments are over. All of these other regions put together strong teams with many kids that will go on to play college lacrosse. Having watched a lot of youth lacrosse over the years and this summer, there wasn't one team at UA that you would watch and say that they're bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

What does it say about a School's administration (private or public) when it allows HCs to use their own (or ones they are getting paid to attend) summer tournaments to hold "defacto" tryouts? IMHO this constitutes type of "pay for play" is clearly out of bounds. I've seen HCs offer to pay (only for those who have a demonstrated financial need) for kids or give their own players a discount so as to ease their guilty consciences. Its become the norm in the Mid-Atlantic State private school circuit. The Schools have a hard time preaching integrity and honor when they allow coaches and teachers the ability to charge students on the side. Most industries have very strict conflict of interest rules but clearly some in the education sector (not all as our local School Superintendent just went to jail for consulting contracts with educational software vendors he awarded contracts to) want to turn a blind eye towards this type of behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Love the underclass games but the senior games are the real barometer on how good or badly the regions are doing in who gets nominated to the game. I am pretty sure the South has beaten the North 7 of the last 8 years. Is the South really that much better or are the players being selected based upon reputation and daddy's influence rather than skill.

How was the talent at the Ward Melville showcase? Good players or middle of the road talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Love the underclass games but the senior games are the real barometer on how good or badly the regions are doing in who gets nominated to the game. I am pretty sure the South has beaten the North 7 of the last 8 years. Is the South really that much better or are the players being selected based upon reputation and daddy's influence rather than skill.

Guess you didn't watch the game. It is NBA-esque in showcasing talent with NO defense being played. Sorry......It was difficult to watch the Senior Game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was the talent at the Ward Melville showcase? Good players or middle of the road talent?

Big name high schools in attendance. Seemed like lots of kids missing from many rosters. That’s the vibe I got from talking to other parents as well. If some of the bigger Class A teams were not missing kids, they will struggle next year based on their performance this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Love the underclass games but the senior games are the real barometer on how good or badly the regions are doing in who gets nominated to the game. I am pretty sure the South has beaten the North 7 of the last 8 years. Is the South really that much better or are the players being selected based upon reputation and daddy's influence rather than skill.

hard to gauge superior regions based on hometowns on rosters
North
NH - 1
NY north of NYC - 4
LI- 5
CT - 7
IND - 1
Mich - 1
NJ - 1
Mass - 2

South
MD - 7
Cali - 3
DC - 1
GA - 1
PA - 3
VA - 1
FL - 1
NY - 3
NC - 1
TX - 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Sorry, but girls lax is not boys lax. LI girls have traditionally been better than the boys. The Command was not good enough to even get seeded in pool play (even with the double holbacks), bottom line. I guess your kid was on that team, which is why you are trying to make excuses. Huge disappointment there. The highlight underperforms pretty much every year....were used to that! Maybe get some unbiased evaluators and coaches who actually know how to coach and thing could be different.

I guess your kid didn't make the team which is why you are making excuses for him then!!

Only 1 kid from LI made an All-Tounament team, and he was from HIghlight, pretty sure it wasn't your son. Like I said LI, did not send the top players....if they did LI just stinks!

Someone tell me why it matters who wins these games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

I agree with this. Too many selections based upon the name of the player and or the helmet worn and not the number on the jersey at these tryouts. Its evident that some selections are made based upon reputation before going into tryouts and or season. For the younger players a lot has to do with which club coaches/evaluators are at the tryouts. Seen it way too many times where a particular player who is a good player has a bad tryout but is still selected. This has happened way too often and people seem ok to defend the selection based upon previous performances and not the performance at the tryout. Then why have the tryout! Wouldnt it be great to have tryouts with helmets with no markings and neutral/unbiased evaluators. Never would happen but hey a person can dream.

The senior games are a whole other issue. The players are all good but again for a number of players the selection to this team is based upon reputation. Many of these players were bigger and stronger at a young age and also more skilled because of it. Some of these players like a few from Long Island have had the luck to play on strong teams club and had great coaching at a young age. They also happen to play at very good high schools like Chaminade/91 etc. Please dont get me wrong these players are skilled but they are surrounded by 17 to 18 very good players. This makes it hard to beat these teams. Now at an event like Under Armour where it is a team event but individual play makes a big difference the so called chosen ones were exposed.

So much for All American or player of the year accolades.

Wow! You basically read my mind. I have been thinking about this a lot. Why do Long Island teams always underperform at UA? Tryouts are Just a money grab, Many of the best kids don’t even try out anymore. I also agree with your assessment of the senior game. How does the supposed “best’ player on LI as proclaimed by Newsday not even get one point??? Wait till these kids get to college, most will never be heard about again. What’s sad is how all we here about is “growing the game” alll lies!

More of the same from the small minded jealous bitter haters.

"Most will never be heard from again" not only are you a cowardly little man you are ignorant as well.

The IL / UA Track Record is pretty impressive . They get it right way more than they get it wrong. The selection process is far less political than the US Lacrosse AA selection process here on the island.

There were 17 First Team NCAA Division I All-Americans this year, 10 of them were Under Armour All-Americans as Seniors.
We will definitely hear a lot more from the 44 boys selected to this years team.

UA is by far the most selective award a HS player can receive .

Keep hating and wishing for young men to fail you bloody coward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

I agree with this. Too many selections based upon the name of the player and or the helmet worn and not the number on the jersey at these tryouts. Its evident that some selections are made based upon reputation before going into tryouts and or season. For the younger players a lot has to do with which club coaches/evaluators are at the tryouts. Seen it way too many times where a particular player who is a good player has a bad tryout but is still selected. This has happened way too often and people seem ok to defend the selection based upon previous performances and not the performance at the tryout. Then why have the tryout! Wouldnt it be great to have tryouts with helmets with no markings and neutral/unbiased evaluators. Never would happen but hey a person can dream.

The senior games are a whole other issue. The players are all good but again for a number of players the selection to this team is based upon reputation. Many of these players were bigger and stronger at a young age and also more skilled because of it. Some of these players like a few from Long Island have had the luck to play on strong teams club and had great coaching at a young age. They also happen to play at very good high schools like Chaminade/91 etc. Please dont get me wrong these players are skilled but they are surrounded by 17 to 18 very good players. This makes it hard to beat these teams. Now at an event like Under Armour where it is a team event but individual play makes a big difference the so called chosen ones were exposed.

So much for All American or player of the year accolades.

Wow! You basically read my mind. I have been thinking about this a lot. Why do Long Island teams always underperform at UA? Tryouts are Just a money grab, Many of the best kids don’t even try out anymore. I also agree with your assessment of the senior game. How does the supposed “best’ player on LI as proclaimed by Newsday not even get one point??? Wait till these kids get to college, most will never be heard about again. What’s sad is how all we here about is “growing the game” alll lies!

More of the same from the small minded jealous bitter haters.

"Most will never be heard from again" not only are you a cowardly little man you are ignorant as well.

The IL / UA Track Record is pretty impressive . They get it right way more than they get it wrong. The selection process is far less political than the US Lacrosse AA selection process here on the island.

There were 17 First Team NCAA Division I All-Americans this year, 10 of them were Under Armour All-Americans as Seniors.
We will definitely hear a lot more from the 44 boys selected to this years team.

UA is by far the most selective award a HS player can receive .

Keep hating and wishing for young men to fail you bloody coward.

Haha, you lost....went home a LOSER. And are out about 500$ bucks. I can think of a lot of ways to better spend that money. You can try to come back at me, but all I know is that my kid is committed to a great school, and only plays with his HS team now. Never did UA and never will!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In 2017 three of the long island UA teams won the tournament, Boys Command division and the Girls Highlight and Command division. This year the boys Command division team went 3-1 in the pool play round, losing to tournament champion West Coast by 1 goal and easily beating tournament finalist Conny 10-6. It's a great tournament with awesome competition. All these tournament/select teams have politics involved but when you look at the rosters it's hard to argue that these aren't some of the best players, of course some of the other best players are left off. On the girls side the Highlight team won again and the Command team lost in the semis. I wouldn't say these teams underperform.

Love the underclass games but the senior games are the real barometer on how good or badly the regions are doing in who gets nominated to the game. I am pretty sure the South has beaten the North 7 of the last 8 years. Is the South really that much better or are the players being selected based upon reputation and daddy's influence rather than skill.

hard to gauge superior regions based on hometowns on rosters
North
NH - 1
NY north of NYC - 4
LI- 5
CT - 7
IND - 1
Mich - 1
NJ - 1
Mass - 2

South
MD - 7
Cali - 3
DC - 1
GA - 1
PA - 3
VA - 1
FL - 1
NY - 3
NC - 1
TX - 1

Long Island had 6 Faceoff guy is a LI guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another disappointment at Under Armour. Neither the Command or Highlight division made it into the playoffs. Once again, this is what happens when a team is picked due favors. A real shame.

Very true. Isn't it obvious based on the results that the process needs to change on Long Island.

I agree with this. Too many selections based upon the name of the player and or the helmet worn and not the number on the jersey at these tryouts. Its evident that some selections are made based upon reputation before going into tryouts and or season. For the younger players a lot has to do with which club coaches/evaluators are at the tryouts. Seen it way too many times where a particular player who is a good player has a bad tryout but is still selected. This has happened way too often and people seem ok to defend the selection based upon previous performances and not the performance at the tryout. Then why have the tryout! Wouldnt it be great to have tryouts with helmets with no markings and neutral/unbiased evaluators. Never would happen but hey a person can dream.

The senior games are a whole other issue. The players are all good but again for a number of players the selection to this team is based upon reputation. Many of these players were bigger and stronger at a young age and also more skilled because of it. Some of these players like a few from Long Island have had the luck to play on strong teams club and had great coaching at a young age. They also happen to play at very good high schools like Chaminade/91 etc. Please dont get me wrong these players are skilled but they are surrounded by 17 to 18 very good players. This makes it hard to beat these teams. Now at an event like Under Armour where it is a team event but individual play makes a big difference the so called chosen ones were exposed.

So much for All American or player of the year accolades.

Wow! You basically read my mind. I have been thinking about this a lot. Why do Long Island teams always underperform at UA? Tryouts are Just a money grab, Many of the best kids don’t even try out anymore. I also agree with your assessment of the senior game. How does the supposed “best’ player on LI as proclaimed by Newsday not even get one point??? Wait till these kids get to college, most will never be heard about again. What’s sad is how all we here about is “growing the game” alll lies!

More of the same from the small minded jealous bitter haters.

"Most will never be heard from again" not only are you a cowardly little man you are ignorant as well.

The IL / UA Track Record is pretty impressive . They get it right way more than they get it wrong. The selection process is far less political than the US Lacrosse AA selection process here on the island.

There were 17 First Team NCAA Division I All-Americans this year, 10 of them were Under Armour All-Americans as Seniors.
We will definitely hear a lot more from the 44 boys selected to this years team.

UA is by far the most selective award a HS player can receive .

Keep hating and wishing for young men to fail you bloody coward.

Haha, you lost....went home a LOSER. And are out about 500$ bucks. I can think of a lot of ways to better spend that money. You can try to come back at me, but all I know is that my kid is committed to a great school, and only plays with his HS team now. Never did UA and never will!

The $1,000,000 question is if a STUD laxer doesn't bother with UA underclass do they get blackballed from consideration into UA senior game?

What you don't get is that nobody really cares. Be an All-American in college, for that matter even get to start on a top 20. That's the real deal. You will soon find out that the rest of this is a-bunch of daddy ball nonsense!

No.

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you don't get is that nobody really cares. Be an All-American in college, for that matter even get to start on a top 20. That's the real deal. You will soon find out that the rest of this is a-bunch of daddy ball nonsense!

Obviously they care, that is why they come on here and complain about how it is all political and that is the only reason their kid didn't make it. It could not possibly be that their kid just is not that good. Always an excuse and never credit to the kids that make it.

Stop it already, Under Armour All-America trumps all HS awards and honors. All of your attempts to tear the players down only shows you for what you are jealous who can't deal with reality.

That said , are there some studs that do not play for the top club teams or the top high schools? Sure, and they can be overlooked but who's fault is that?

Every year, the vast majority of the 44 players selected to the Under Armour All-America Team go on to have very successful college careers.

Sorry for the stud who plays for a weak HS team and doesn't play for a top club team. I know they are at a disadvantage.

Congatulations to all of the young men that earned the distinction. Be proud it is a great honor.

Keep telling yourself that, and keep paying the $$$, Trust me, nobody cares. Do something in college, then you might get a job out of it. Most of these kid will never be heard of again after HS. Maybe one or two will become a franchise player, and it probably won’t be who you think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you don't get is that nobody really cares. Be an All-American in college, for that matter even get to start on a top 20. That's the real deal. You will soon find out that the rest of this is a-bunch of daddy ball nonsense!

Obviously they care, that is why they come on here and complain about how it is all political and that is the only reason their kid didn't make it. It could not possibly be that their kid just is not that good. Always an excuse and never credit to the kids that make it.

Stop it already, Under Armour All-America trumps all HS awards and honors. All of your attempts to tear the players down only shows you for what you are jealous who can't deal with reality.

That said , are there some studs that do not play for the top club teams or the top high schools? Sure, and they can be overlooked but who's fault is that?

Every year, the vast majority of the 44 players selected to the Under Armour All-America Team go on to have very successful college careers.

Sorry for the stud who plays for a weak HS team and doesn't play for a top club team. I know they are at a disadvantage.

Congatulations to all of the young men that earned the distinction. Be proud it is a great honor.

Are you really using the term earned? There are some players on that list from Long Island that were and I emphasize were great players in 8th and 9th grade. They are no longer that good. Some were bigger and stronger than others back then but now cant stay healthy and are no longer bigger and stronger. Others were faster and more skilled but their little legs cant keep up anymore regardless of how many hours they spend training or the accolades daddy buys. Its becoming more and more obvious the last 2 years as to how others have passed them in physicality and skill. They were exposed really badly in the UA games. Let's here the excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Maybe my kid would have made the team, maybe he wouldn’t. Since he didn’t try out, we’ll never know. Now why don’t you tell me why the kids who did make the team couldn’t get the job done and waisted there parents time and money? Sad that LI can’t put a competitive team together. Probably because many of the best players don’t even bother with UA anymore.

Jealousy is a terrible trait

15 out of 23 were either Express or Catholic(even if 91) the remaining 8 were all 91, With that being said how is it a fair process if 65% of the team are Chan favors or at least partial ones. How do you encourage kids from other schools or clubs to tryout and in the end isn't this all about money. UA I presume gets the tryout money so if less and less kids tryout that will be reflective in the revenue and Chan uses this to dangle in front of prospective young players to join the evil empire therefore collecting "tuition" for the next 4-5 years. It sounds complicit too me, so in the end it's up to parents if they choose to throw away the 2 days and $200. The only great thing is if your kid shows well and doesn't get selected the college coaches who watched tryouts will be asking "Hey where is that kid" if they also are at Baltimore. For $200 I say that is a fair gamble if you believe your son can compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you don't get is that nobody really cares. Be an All-American in college, for that matter even get to start on a top 20. That's the real deal. You will soon find out that the rest of this is a-bunch of daddy ball nonsense!

Obviously they care, that is why they come on here and complain about how it is all political and that is the only reason their kid didn't make it. It could not possibly be that their kid just is not that good. Always an excuse and never credit to the kids that make it.

Stop it already, Under Armour All-America trumps all HS awards and honors. All of your attempts to tear the players down only shows you for what you are jealous who can't deal with reality.

That said , are there some studs that do not play for the top club teams or the top high schools? Sure, and they can be overlooked but who's fault is that?

Every year, the vast majority of the 44 players selected to the Under Armour All-America Team go on to have very successful college careers.

Sorry for the stud who plays for a weak HS team and doesn't play for a top club team. I know they are at a disadvantage.

Congatulations to all of the young men that earned the distinction. Be proud it is a great honor.

Are you really using the term earned? There are some players on that list from Long Island that were and I emphasize were great players in 8th and 9th grade. They are no longer that good. Some were bigger and stronger than others back then but now cant stay healthy and are no longer bigger and stronger. Others were faster and more skilled but their little legs cant keep up anymore regardless of how many hours they spend training or the accolades daddy buys. Its becoming more and more obvious the last 2 years as to how others have passed them in physicality and skill. They were exposed really badly in the UA games. Let's here the excuses.

Another loser who sits around waiting and hoping for others struggle or fail. Sorry that your kid did not make it, I'm sure that he will be an All-American at the next level. Good luck to him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What you don't get is that nobody really cares. Be an All-American in college, for that matter even get to start on a top 20. That's the real deal. You will soon find out that the rest of this is a-bunch of daddy ball nonsense!

Obviously they care, that is why they come on here and complain about how it is all political and that is the only reason their kid didn't make it. It could not possibly be that their kid just is not that good. Always an excuse and never credit to the kids that make it.

Stop it already, Under Armour All-America trumps all HS awards and honors. All of your attempts to tear the players down only shows you for what you are jealous who can't deal with reality.

That said , are there some studs that do not play for the top club teams or the top high schools? Sure, and they can be overlooked but who's fault is that?

Every year, the vast majority of the 44 players selected to the Under Armour All-America Team go on to have very successful college careers.

Sorry for the stud who plays for a weak HS team and doesn't play for a top club team. I know they are at a disadvantage.

Congatulations to all of the young men that earned the distinction. Be proud it is a great honor.

Are you really using the term earned? There are some players on that list from Long Island that were and I emphasize were great players in 8th and 9th grade. They are no longer that good. Some were bigger and stronger than others back then but now cant stay healthy and are no longer bigger and stronger. Others were faster and more skilled but their little legs cant keep up anymore regardless of how many hours they spend training or the accolades daddy buys. Its becoming more and more obvious the last 2 years as to how others have passed them in physicality and skill. They were exposed really badly in the UA games. Let's here the excuses.

Another loser who sits around waiting and hoping for others struggle or fail. Sorry that your kid did not make it, I'm sure that he will be an All-American at the next level. Good luck to him.

Nah, I am really happy for the kids that deserve it and earned it. As for my kid he is doing just fine. He is headed to a great school and will be playing lacrosse. Ohh and his high school team actually won the big game and he actually scored a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Maybe my kid would have made the team, maybe he wouldn’t. Since he didn’t try out, we’ll never know. Now why don’t you tell me why the kids who did make the team couldn’t get the job done and waisted there parents time and money? Sad that LI can’t put a competitive team together. Probably because many of the best players don’t even bother with UA anymore.

You sound like a very low IQ individual...I don't think anyone who participated feels like it was a *waste of time and money. The tournament is well run, the boys had a lot of fun competing against the other regions, and although you always want Long Island to win, it's unrealistic to think that will always be the result. Having watched the 2019s, 2020s, and 2021s over the years, it's tough for you to say that these teams weren't comprised of the top players on Long Island. Of course certain kids were left off or didn't tryout but most of the Highlight team is committed to top programs and the Command team was mostly from the top 3 club teams on Long Island. If the only thing that you're focused on is saving $500 and having your kid committed to a "great school" that's pretty sad. Enjoy the game, the time spent traveling with your kid, having them meet new people, and competing. It's tough being left out and feeling like you shouldn't even tryout for the team because you or your son is afraid of not making it, but that's not a reason to criticize the team or the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Maybe my kid would have made the team, maybe he wouldn’t. Since he didn’t try out, we’ll never know. Now why don’t you tell me why the kids who did make the team couldn’t get the job done and waisted there parents time and money? Sad that LI can’t put a competitive team together. Probably because many of the best players don’t even bother with UA anymore.

You sound like a very low IQ individual...I don't think anyone who participated feels like it was a *waste of time and money. The tournament is well run, the boys had a lot of fun competing against the other regions, and although you always want Long Island to win, it's unrealistic to think that will always be the result. Having watched the 2019s, 2020s, and 2021s over the years, it's tough for you to say that these teams weren't comprised of the top players on Long Island. Of course certain kids were left off or didn't tryout but most of the Highlight team is committed to top programs and the Command team was mostly from the top 3 club teams on Long Island. If the only thing that you're focused on is saving $500 and having your kid committed to a "great school" that's pretty sad. Enjoy the game, the time spent traveling with your kid, having them meet new people, and competing. It's tough being left out and feeling like you shouldn't even tryout for the team because you or your son is afraid of not making it, but that's not a reason to criticize the team or the coaches.

You really just don’t get it, but that’s ok. UA is a sinking ship on LI. As for my kid, no need to worry about him, he gets plenty of accolades playing for his HS team and guest playing on club in top tournaments. Just because someone doesn’t try out for something doesn’t mean they’re afraid of not making it. But since your so smart, I’d think you’d be able to figure that out. Now hurry along and get that cup of coffee for MC, you wouldn’t want him to forget about your kid, tryouts are coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

You are one of those trouble makers, who are you to keep stating "the coach will be out", if you don't like something right away you call for the coaches head, guys like you should not be part of sports

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

What does it say about a School's administration (private or public) when it allows HCs to use their own (or ones they are getting paid to attend) summer tournaments to hold "defacto" tryouts? IMHO this constitutes type of "pay for play" is clearly out of bounds. I've seen HCs offer to pay (only for those who have a demonstrated financial need) for kids or give their own players a discount so as to ease their guilty consciences. Its become the norm in the Mid-Atlantic State private school circuit. The Schools have a hard time preaching integrity and honor when they allow coaches and teachers the ability to charge students on the side. Most industries have very strict conflict of interest rules but clearly some in the education sector (not all as our local School Superintendent just went to jail for consulting contracts with educational software vendors he awarded contracts to) want to turn a blind eye towards this type of behavior.

Why is it ok for the math teacher to charge a fee to tutor a student.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1000 % .. Between Inside Lacrosse Showcases and UA tryouts it adds to the resume' and name recognition. With regard to the underclass team selections it's time to pry it away from Chan and his manipulative minions, It's only a matter of time before only his club guys or catholic school kids make it so how is it not unethical. It is nothing short of blackmail/extortion/bribery or any another sinister action that sends the message, pay me and your kid is a UA guy. And if anyone argues that point they are either benefactors or co-
conspirators so don't embarrass yourselves. Highlight Division 10th out of 12 teams , is that a joke.

Just looked at the roster of the highlight team. Looks like half of the team was not express. Does not look like Chan holders all of the cards. 91 was well represented on that team.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think express "Chan" only had one player named Under Armour All-American.

Maybe it's time to stop making excuses for your kid. He didn't make it because he was not good enough .
It had nothing to do with anything else.

Maybe my kid would have made the team, maybe he wouldn’t. Since he didn’t try out, we’ll never know. Now why don’t you tell me why the kids who did make the team couldn’t get the job done and waisted there parents time and money? Sad that LI can’t put a competitive team together. Probably because many of the best players don’t even bother with UA anymore.

One of the saddest and most pathetic posts I have ever read here. Your son must be so ashamed and embarrassed by you. I feel bad for him, his father is a petty small man with obvious issues. Pack up and leave, give the kid a chance at success. He has no shot with you as his dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

What does it say about a School's administration (private or public) when it allows HCs to use their own (or ones they are getting paid to attend) summer tournaments to hold "defacto" tryouts? IMHO this constitutes type of "pay for play" is clearly out of bounds. I've seen HCs offer to pay (only for those who have a demonstrated financial need) for kids or give their own players a discount so as to ease their guilty consciences. Its become the norm in the Mid-Atlantic State private school circuit. The Schools have a hard time preaching integrity and honor when they allow coaches and teachers the ability to charge students on the side. Most industries have very strict conflict of interest rules but clearly some in the education sector (not all as our local School Superintendent just went to jail for consulting contracts with educational software vendors he awarded contracts to) want to turn a blind eye towards this type of behavior.

Why is it ok for the math teacher to charge a fee to tutor a student.

Most school systems or private schools I've been involved with have strict rules regarding a teacher tutoring his or her own student. Another teacher can do it, but most educators feel there's an inherent conflict between receiving direct compensation from parents and the fact that the teachers are assigning grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

You are one of those trouble makers, who are you to keep stating "the coach will be out", if you don't like something right away you call for the coaches head, guys like you should not be part of sports

I am not the poster that you are responding to but I will chime in.

The guy does not sound like a trouble maker at all. In fact, he sounds pretty reasonable. I agree, if my kid were coerced into playing for his HS coaches "pay to play - for profit" summer team I would want that coach gone as well. The original post stated that kids were missing do to the fact that they were working. I am proud of any young man who is working in the summer. If you think some meaningless tournament should come before work you are a stunad. If you think it is acceptable for HS coaches to coerce kids into paying them to play on a team or in a tournament through threats of not being considered for captain you are a bigger dope than originally thought. Let me clear it up for you, it's called extortion you dimwit.

You asked the question: "who are you to keep stating the coach will be out". He or she sounds like a parent who knows right from wrong. They sound like a parent that will stand up and make sure that people will be held accountable for their actions.

The person clearly stated that he was not aware of any nonsense taking place at his sons school and that his son has never been penalized for missing "school summer team" games in order to go to Under Armour, Club games or Showcases.

Do you actually think that coercion by a HS coach is acceptable?

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

In season a high school coach can require his players to do what he sees fit (within the rules of course and based on good ethics). Out of season, he can ask but that's it. A player should be evaluated based on his talent and preparation beginning with day one of tryouts. My boys were all 2 or 3 sport athletes and were quick to tell an overzealous coach they were preparing for their in season or next season sport. they trained on their own and didn't need a babysitter. And yes, summer jobs come before many of the stupid club tournaments out there. Its called learning how to work and be responsible. If you're good enough the D1 coaches will come calling when the time comes. Lots of fear mongering and huckstering in the lacrosse world both from high school and club coaches. Parents, use lacrosse to get into the best school (academically and culturally) and let the chips fall where they may. Pro lacrosse comp is paltry and will be for the next 20-30 years. If you're looking for the $$ in lacrosse run several good tournaments and/or start a national chain of expensive clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

What does it say about a School's administration (private or public) when it allows HCs to use their own (or ones they are getting paid to attend) summer tournaments to hold "defacto" tryouts? IMHO this constitutes type of "pay for play" is clearly out of bounds. I've seen HCs offer to pay (only for those who have a demonstrated financial need) for kids or give their own players a discount so as to ease their guilty consciences. Its become the norm in the Mid-Atlantic State private school circuit. The Schools have a hard time preaching integrity and honor when they allow coaches and teachers the ability to charge students on the side. Most industries have very strict conflict of interest rules but clearly some in the education sector (not all as our local School Superintendent just went to jail for consulting contracts with educational software vendors he awarded contracts to) want to turn a blind eye towards this type of behavior.

Why is it ok for the math teacher to charge a fee to tutor a student.

It is not ok.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

What does it say about a School's administration (private or public) when it allows HCs to use their own (or ones they are getting paid to attend) summer tournaments to hold "defacto" tryouts? IMHO this constitutes type of "pay for play" is clearly out of bounds. I've seen HCs offer to pay (only for those who have a demonstrated financial need) for kids or give their own players a discount so as to ease their guilty consciences. Its become the norm in the Mid-Atlantic State private school circuit. The Schools have a hard time preaching integrity and honor when they allow coaches and teachers the ability to charge students on the side. Most industries have very strict conflict of interest rules but clearly some in the education sector (not all as our local School Superintendent just went to jail for consulting contracts with educational software vendors he awarded contracts to) want to turn a blind eye towards this type of behavior.

Why is it ok for the math teacher to charge a fee to tutor a student.

Most school systems or private schools I've been involved with have strict rules regarding a teacher tutoring his or her own student. Another teacher can do it, but most educators feel there's an inherent conflict between receiving direct compensation from parents and the fact that the teachers are assigning grades.

Wow, imagine that, an inherent conflict of interest.

Please explain to me why there is no conflict of interest when it comes to paying the HS coach?""

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Anything taking place in the summer that is "pay to play and for profit" is not a High School event so stop with the nonsense. As far as athletes playing for club teams goes, the athlete can choose to do whatever he wants, he is the customer and he is paying to be on the team.

As for the boys, they know that it is about the money.

My younger one is entering the recruiting years and he will be playing at the events that will give him the most exposure. We are fortunate that he is on one of the top club teams so he is afforded the opportunity to play against many of the best players in the country in front of many coaches from the best college programs. We have been down this road before, the only "Non Club" events that enable a player to be seen by the majority of the top college programs are the Final 40 games of the Nassau Vs Suffolk Tryouts and the Final 40 game of the Under Armour Tryouts. Making the teams is not important, but playing in the final games at the tryouts great exposure.

I really do not have any issue with the HS coaches doing things in the off season but please stop with the disingenuous BS. It is what it is, don't try to hide it and do not try to sell it as something better than it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Anything taking place in the summer that is "pay to play and for profit" is not a High School event so stop with the nonsense. As far as athletes playing for club teams goes, the athlete can choose to do whatever he wants, he is the customer and he is paying to be on the team.

As for the boys, they know that it is about the money.

My younger one is entering the recruiting years and he will be playing at the events that will give him the most exposure. We are fortunate that he is on one of the top club teams so he is afforded the opportunity to play against many of the best players in the country in front of many coaches from the best college programs. We have been down this road before, the only "Non Club" events that enable a player to be seen by the majority of the top college programs are the Final 40 games of the Nassau Vs Suffolk Tryouts and the Final 40 game of the Under Armour Tryouts. Making the teams is not important, but playing in the final games at the tryouts great exposure.

I really do not have any issue with the HS coaches doing things in the off season but please stop with the disingenuous BS. It is what it is, don't try to hide it and do not try to sell it as something better than it is.

When the HC of a high school team invites members or candidates for his varsity team (and his team only) to a pay for play tournament he runs (and makes a ton of money on) and uses the tournament to evaluate his players (a defacto tryout) for the coming spring season he is conflicted. Kids who don't participate are at risk for being viewed as a "non-team player" and not leadership or starting material. Sorry but this is a textbook definition of a "conflict of interest" and "self dealing".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Anything taking place in the summer that is "pay to play and for profit" is not a High School event so stop with the nonsense. As far as athletes playing for club teams goes, the athlete can choose to do whatever he wants, he is the customer and he is paying to be on the team.

As for the boys, they know that it is about the money.

My younger one is entering the recruiting years and he will be playing at the events that will give him the most exposure. We are fortunate that he is on one of the top club teams so he is afforded the opportunity to play against many of the best players in the country in front of many coaches from the best college programs. We have been down this road before, the only "Non Club" events that enable a player to be seen by the majority of the top college programs are the Final 40 games of the Nassau Vs Suffolk Tryouts and the Final 40 game of the Under Armour Tryouts. Making the teams is not important, but playing in the final games at the tryouts great exposure.

I really do not have any issue with the HS coaches doing things in the off season but please stop with the disingenuous BS. It is what it is, don't try to hide it and do not try to sell it as something better than it is.

When the HC of a high school team invites members or candidates for his varsity team (and his team only) to a pay for play tournament he runs (and makes a ton of money on) and uses the tournament to evaluate his players (a defacto tryout) for the coming spring season he is conflicted. Kids who don't participate are at risk for being viewed as a "non-team player" and not leadership or starting material. Sorry but this is a textbook definition of a "conflict of interest" and "self dealing".

Do you guys really think a coach is using these summer tournament to evaluate (tryout) his players, the coach is well aware of the type of player the kids are by that age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Anything taking place in the summer that is "pay to play and for profit" is not a High School event so stop with the nonsense. As far as athletes playing for club teams goes, the athlete can choose to do whatever he wants, he is the customer and he is paying to be on the team.

As for the boys, they know that it is about the money.

My younger one is entering the recruiting years and he will be playing at the events that will give him the most exposure. We are fortunate that he is on one of the top club teams so he is afforded the opportunity to play against many of the best players in the country in front of many coaches from the best college programs. We have been down this road before, the only "Non Club" events that enable a player to be seen by the majority of the top college programs are the Final 40 games of the Nassau Vs Suffolk Tryouts and the Final 40 game of the Under Armour Tryouts. Making the teams is not important, but playing in the final games at the tryouts great exposure.

I really do not have any issue with the HS coaches doing things in the off season but please stop with the disingenuous BS. It is what it is, don't try to hide it and do not try to sell it as something better than it is.

When the HC of a high school team invites members or candidates for his varsity team (and his team only) to a pay for play tournament he runs (and makes a ton of money on) and uses the tournament to evaluate his players (a defacto tryout) for the coming spring season he is conflicted. Kids who don't participate are at risk for being viewed as a "non-team player" and not leadership or starting material. Sorry but this is a textbook definition of a "conflict of interest" and "self dealing".

Do you guys really think a coach is using these summer tournament to evaluate (tryout) his players, the coach is well aware of the type of player the kids are by that age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In life there is a time and place for everything.

A smart coach does not force his players to do everything but may demand they do select things. Just as an elite athlete doesnt have to do everything his club team does and needs to prioritize some HS events.

As for as some comments over work, a smart HS coach will give enough advance notice and if not will not hold an athlete to it.

Now the boys on the other hand, they all know and that is the bigger jury!

Please enlighten When and where the time and place are for coercion and extortion .

Anything taking place in the summer that is "pay to play and for profit" is not a High School event so stop with the nonsense. As far as athletes playing for club teams goes, the athlete can choose to do whatever he wants, he is the customer and he is paying to be on the team.

As for the boys, they know that it is about the money.

My younger one is entering the recruiting years and he will be playing at the events that will give him the most exposure. We are fortunate that he is on one of the top club teams so he is afforded the opportunity to play against many of the best players in the country in front of many coaches from the best college programs. We have been down this road before, the only "Non Club" events that enable a player to be seen by the majority of the top college programs are the Final 40 games of the Nassau Vs Suffolk Tryouts and the Final 40 game of the Under Armour Tryouts. Making the teams is not important, but playing in the final games at the tryouts great exposure.

I really do not have any issue with the HS coaches doing things in the off season but please stop with the disingenuous BS. It is what it is, don't try to hide it and do not try to sell it as something better than it is.

When the HC of a high school team invites members or candidates for his varsity team (and his team only) to a pay for play tournament he runs (and makes a ton of money on) and uses the tournament to evaluate his players (a defacto tryout) for the coming spring season he is conflicted. Kids who don't participate are at risk for being viewed as a "non-team player" and not leadership or starting material. Sorry but this is a textbook definition of a "conflict of interest" and "self dealing".

Do you guys really think a coach is using these summer tournament to evaluate (tryout) his players, the coach is well aware of the type of player the kids are by that age.

Clearly you’ve never coached at a high level and I don’t mean a rec or club level.. Coaches use these summer tournaments to evaluate rising freshmen and sophomores. If they’re not evaluating the players why would they or their staff even participate? Sorry but it’s clearly to assess kids and earn extra $$$.

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again..........Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again..........Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

As I have written earlier, any HS coach who gets involved in ANY town sponsored lacrosse is CRAZY!! It's a lose/lose situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again..........Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

As I have written earlier, any HS coach who gets involved in ANY town sponsored lacrosse is CRAZY!! It's a lose/lose situation.

Yes...... we get your "opinion"........easy to give an opinion.....how about your solution???? Is your opinion consistent with all other HS/JV coaches in other sports???

It all started with me and the intent was the players are more policing this. I liked the coach put it out there wish he would have demanded it. When and where someone asked. When, When a team wants to be #1 and not juts a contender. Sure, in life there is a balance, some go over board and some dont do enough. But it great to see when the kids police it themselfs.

I loved the fact that a certain school hold their seniors accountable, cant be a capt if you don't do certain things, this is for a town thing every weekend just for limited HS team stuff. Your a Soph or Jr and you need to go to UA, Maverick or a college for a Showcase, go Ahead. 3 rate tournament with a B team definitely not, You say you have to work, ample time is given to make accommodations (that is what the real life is like) plan ahead.

I heard players over slept, I heard players flat out said no, i heard players were at other events days prior, I heard players had to work. Those are absolutely reasons for Jr and Srs to be coerced and disciplined.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

on the other hand, big KUDOS to all those boys that stuck with their high school teams and played at Ward Melville. and a huge "SHAME ON YOU" for all the boys who decided to stay selfish and not play with their High School teams.

Heard over and over again, so and so was home, so and so was working so and so was elsewhere. Not to sure, but many of these teams knew about these games months ago. At some point you have to have the High School team come first.

I heard teams told Sr. players, if they didnt attend certain games they cant become captain

Are you really going to start with this nonsense again?

BTW, which "other" hands are you referring to? Is it the hands of the HS Coaches who are grabbing the money? Didn't the tournament at WM charge each player an "entry fee"? How much was that fee again? How many players participated? How much money was collected? Where did that money go? Was this tournament run by The Ward Melville School District? Was it a charity event? Did the proceeds go to a worthy cause?

You really think that a young man should prioritize a bs high school tournament above of "work" commitment?

Didn't the High School Season end a while ago? Find me a single player who is missing High School Lacrosse for anything other than illness, family priorities, emergencies etc..

Maybe the boy is working to help pay for the "fee" to play for his so called "High School Summer Team"? How much did it cost each player to play at Ward Melville this past weekend?

The only selfish people are the - who want to hold kids back for their own selfish reasons. If a boy made the Under Armour team and you want him to stay and play in some pay to play money grab you are the one who should be ashamed.

Any coach who tells a player that he can not become a captain if he does not "Pay to Play" for their "quasi HS summer team" should be fired immediately.

I will ask my son and his teammates tonight if it has been implied in any way that if a player misses any "summer pay to play HS lacrosse" that he can not be considered for captain. If there has been any coercion whether explicit or implied I will make it my business to have that coach removed.

With respect to the game of lacrosse there are two types of people that can be classified as selfish and they are the very same people who should be ashamed of themselves.

1. The parents of the "average" players who want to hold the stronger players back. You see, they want their child to be able to play with the stronger players however, they do not want the stronger players to go off and play with better players on one of the top club teams.

2. HS coaches extorting money from players and their families.

(yes I get it the club directors are in it for the money as well but they are running a business and you do not have to give them your money if you do not want to)

To the best of my knowledge my son has never been penalized in any way by his HS coaches for playing club lacrosse, going to a showcase or Under Armour. If that changes, the coach will be out of a job before the school year begins.

You are one of those trouble makers, who are you to keep stating "the coach will be out", if you don't like something right away you call for the coaches head, guys like you should not be part of sports

I am not the poster that you are responding to but I will chime in.

The guy does not sound like a trouble maker at all. In fact, he sounds pretty reasonable. I agree, if my kid were coerced into playing for his HS coaches "pay to play - for profit" summer team I would want that coach gone as well. The original post stated that kids were missing do to the fact that they were working. I am proud of any young man who is working in the summer. If you think some meaningless tournament should come before work you are a stunad. If you think it is acceptable for HS coaches to coerce kids into paying them to play on a team or in a tournament through threats of not being considered for captain you are a bigger dope than originally thought. Let me clear it up for you, it's called extortion you dimwit.

You asked the question: "who are you to keep stating the coach will be out". He or she sounds like a parent who knows right from wrong. They sound like a parent that will stand up and make sure that people will be held accountable for their actions.

The person clearly stated that he was not aware of any nonsense taking place at his sons school and that his son has never been penalized for missing "school summer team" games in order to go to Under Armour, Club games or Showcases.

Do you actually think that coercion by a HS coach is acceptable?

Id be prouder of my son if he organized his schedule around certain things that are important to him. School or family events. Oh wait mine did!

What gets my goat is those boys who just want to assume they will be good, start and be capt and the team will be #1 but dont seem to put a real effort into things but instead give lame butt excuses.
I am just saying if you claim to be a lacrosse player (and lacrosse is important to you) and your coach offers a great opportunity to play as a team, you jump at it. not say Nah I got to work. You plan and schedule for it.

there is a difference between having to work and saying you have to work. The coaches wernt doing the Coercion in this case. The coaches offered up opportunities, many of the boys jumped at the opportunity some did not. Those that didnt will complain later on why why why. You need to put the work in. You need to put the work in as a team and individually.

Soft - actions speak louder that words

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again..........Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

As I have written earlier, any HS coach who gets involved in ANY town sponsored lacrosse is CRAZY!! It's a lose/lose situation.

Yes...... we get your "opinion"........easy to give an opinion.....how about your solution???? Is your opinion consistent with all other HS/JV coaches in other sports???

I feel any high school team that has a coach that is willing to coach a summer team is very lucky. It is pay to play of course. These tournaments are not free to join and its not free to put a staff together. You have travel, hotel, and food stipend expenses. Add some team gear for coaches on sidelines and also pay for the coaches and insurance. All the expenses add up.

Whats the benefit of doing out of season tournaments? Having your team gel and get a feeling for the up and coming players. Many of the teams that did well this year in high school also played a few summer tournaments together and also a few fall tournaments. Yes there are those towns that are lucky to have a few very strong club players but year to year that changes. So coaches need to keep their players playing together. Its a double edge sword because there are those that call these coaches crazy and there are the ones that are all for it. I for one would have loved for my sons high school coach to put together a few summer tournaments. His level of commitment to the team is sub par at best and the results showed it. Lost too many close games. You can practice all you want but its game experience that counts. Playing in these summer tournaments also allows for players to get experience in games that they may not get in season. A smart coach runs the plays he would in season so the new varsity players can get a feel for his style. As a result they will be ready when they are called upon. Of course you need players to put in the time on their own. If everyone buys in it leads to that and the senior and upperclassmen influence is very important. A non-cohesive team results in selfish play and a me me mentality.

Chaminade High School team won the National High School Championship Tournament this past weekend beating some great teams. Team looks good for 2019.

My son is heading to college to play Division 1 Lacrosse this year. He did not play for a powerhouse high school but yet he worked hard and will be playing at a school that is the perfect fit for him. He has received many honors over the years. UA All American was not one of them ... but he never tried out . I would never come on here and bash those players who were chosen . It is a great honor and they should be proud. At the same time, I would hope that people would not come on here and say the US All American honors are all political. Bottom line ... all these boys are great players with a love for a sport. Can’t we just leave it at that! Go and cheer on your son without knocking down others!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again.......Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

I do not think that anyone says that a HS coach can't coach in the summer. Just stop calling it a HS Team and stop with the BS about commitment etc...

If there is coercion to play and the coach is profiting it is extortion.

"ex·tor·tion /ikˈstôrSH(ə)n/
noun: extortion; plural noun: extortions
the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
synonyms: blackmail, shakedown"

If there is any threat of punishment or negative consequence for not playing (paying) for a HS coaches for-profit summer team then there is a major problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade High School team won the National High School Championship Tournament this past weekend beating some great teams. Team looks good for 2019.

Congrats Chaminade!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry guys, once a HS coach decides to make the summer team a "for-profit business" all bets are off. Once the line is crossed it is no longer a "High School Team". You can try to justify it but at the end of the day it is now a "pay to play for-profit business" and the players are now the customers. It is unfortunate that this is the way the sport has progressed but this is the reality. You simply can not have it both ways. It is either business or it is a HS Team. It can not be both.

So here we go again..........Cant have a HS/JV coach for summer travel teams. Cant have "daddy" coaches. Cant have college kids because they are usually hung over wearing flip flops and are here for summer only. College coach??.....cmon really, they are out scouting for their real team. So please, inform me who should be coaching summer travel teams that would meet your criteria???

As I have written earlier, any HS coach who gets involved in ANY town sponsored lacrosse is CRAZY!! It's a lose/lose situation.

Yes...... we get your "opinion"........easy to give an opinion.....how about your solution???? Is your opinion consistent with all other HS/JV coaches in other sports???

Not my opinion, it's my solution. Keep the HS coach out of the equation, that way no crying and complaining parents. Yes my opinion is that the HS football coach should not coach the local youth team. What's your solution.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade High School team won the National High School Championship Tournament this past weekend beating some great teams. Team looks good for 2019.

Congrats Chaminade!

How many other threads are you going to post this on and then respond to yourself until someone pats you on the back Cham daddy? Don’t you get it....nobody cares!

So they finally actually played up to the hype...who was coaching? hopefully that won't b e the high point of their lives and they don't falter in the Spring. That being said. Well done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So they finally actually played up to the hype...who was coaching? hopefully that won't b e the high point of their lives and they don't falter in the Spring. That being said. Well done.

Stellar fogos and goalies and 1 beast midfielder. This was a good enough formula to get the job done.

Trouble in syo land!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trouble in syo land!!!

Do tell, do tell!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trouble in syo land!!!

Do tell, do tell!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

End of era!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trouble in syo land!!!

Do tell, do tell!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

End of era!!!

End of an era or error?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trouble in syo land!!!

Do tell, do tell!!! Inquiring minds want to know.

End of era!!!

Move along, nothing to see here.

I want, gimmie, i'll take. I'll have. Parents operate the same way with the admin as the do in the bagel store in that town. You just ushered out the best coach your program has ever had who brought you to the greatest success consistently that your program has ever had. Enjoy the ride down the rankings...albeit with all your clothes on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I want, gimmie, i'll take. I'll have. Parents operate the same way with the admin as the do in the bagel store in that town. You just ushered out the best coach your program has ever had who brought you to the greatest success consistently that your program has ever had. Enjoy the ride down the rankings...albeit with all your clothes on.

You saying the coach was let go?

No, just speculating based on the "end of an Era" post.

Suffolk guy in snobby syoland got got

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk guy in snobby syoland got got

Nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Suffolk guy in snobby syoland got got

Nonsense[/quot

Head coach still there but, looks like rest of coaches are not!!!

New Kellenberg coach?? Schwajle gone??

Which teams will be at the top in 2019?

Long Island Top 5?

Garden City
Massapequa
Chaminade
Ward Melville
Manhasset
Smithtown West
St Anthony's

Do any non traditional powers look to breakout ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams will be at the top in 2019?

Long Island Top 5?

Garden City
Massapequa
Chaminade
Ward Melville
Manhasset
Smithtown West
St Anthony's

Do any non traditional powers look to breakout ?

West Islip

Cold Spring Harbor

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

If St Anthony's doesn't run the table in Football and Lax there is a problem. I do believe there could be some non traditional schools that may rise up.

I do believe there is a lot of talent out there and some that do not get the same exposure as others.

Instead of a LI top 5

Why not do a
Nassua A
1
2
3
4

Nassua B
1
2
3
4

Nassau C/D
1
2
3
4

Suffolk A
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk B
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk C/D
1
2
3
4
5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If St Anthony's doesn't run the table in Football and Lax there is a problem. I do believe there could be some non traditional schools that may rise up.

I do believe there is a lot of talent out there and some that do not get the same exposure as others.

Instead of a LI top 5

Why not do a
Nassua A
1
2
3
4

Nassua B
1
2
3
4

Nassau C/D
1
2
3
4

Suffolk A
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk B
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk C/D
1
2
3
4
5

Most divisions are a two maybe three horse race. No need to go four or five deep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If St Anthony's doesn't run the table in Football and Lax there is a problem. I do believe there could be some non traditional schools that may rise up.

I do believe there is a lot of talent out there and some that do not get the same exposure as others.

Instead of a LI top 5

Why not do a
Nassua A
1
2
3
4

Nassua B
1
2
3
4

Nassau C/D
1
2
3
4

Suffolk A
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk B
1
2
3
4
5

Suffolk C/D
1
2
3
4
5

My Nassau prediction for class A
Nassua A
1 Massapequa (ton of talent returning will go undefeated in Nassau A. Have talent at all positions. Defense will be their strength also possession with their faceoff man returning)
2 Farmingdale (return some talent coaching is their strength. If anyone can get blood from a stone it's their head coach)
3 Port Washington (the super soph group will get their chance to shine as Juniors and returning All County goalie. Coaching and defense will be their achilles heel
4. Syosset (graduated too many of their top players. The depth is just not there. Have a few good returning players but will they be a cohesive unit. Lots of distractions going on in Syosset. Will the Igloo chaos ever stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which teams will be at the top in 2019?

Long Island Top 5?

Garden City
Massapequa
Chaminade
Ward Melville
Manhasset
Smithtown West
St Anthony's

Do any non traditional powers look to breakout ?

Smithtown West??

What is this nonsense going on at the NYS championships games in Binghamton. Half of the kids that are on the original rosters are not even there, and have been replaced with random kids, many not even from the region they are listed as being from??? Seems like a silly waste of time!

$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is this nonsense going on at the NYS championships games in Binghamton. Half of the kids that are on the original rosters are not even there, and have been replaced with random kids, many not even from the region they are listed as being from??? Seems like a silly waste of time!

I wouldnt call it a waste of time or non sense, some kids playing that's all id say. Sure, if weather was better it may not have been so bad.

I do, however, think it is silly to call it a NYS championship. These kids play way to much and some were smart to skip it. With the big tournament a few days before in Lehigh, I could see some not wanting to play. But for the kids that did go and play good for them, I hope they enjoyed it.

We all know the marque names and who was and wasnt there, lets not turn it into that.

The thought of this is good, if the HS got behind it. Clubs have to much power. Even the Catholics dont do much as a school, just as a club.

Your telling me a team of the best Chaminade and ST Anthony's let along the outliers in the other catholic schools would go 0-3, sorry 0-4. No way in H. E. double hockey sticks

And the post of the "original kids". Player, please, many kids didnt tryout in the first place. So it was never truly a contest with the best kids. It was just another venue to play. Again great idea, Empires used to be a thing you looked forward to. That and brine were huge in the 80's 90's (but so was big hair).

Times change, the game has grown.

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

The thought of this is good, if the HS got behind it. Clubs have to much power. Even the Catholics dont do much as a school, just as a club.

Your telling me a team of the best Chaminade and ST Anthony's let along the outliers in the other catholic schools would go 0-3, sorry 0-4. No way in H. E. double hockey sticks

And the post of the "original kids". Player, please, many kids didnt tryout in the first place. So it was never truly a contest with the best kids. It was just another venue to play. Again great idea, Empires used to be a thing you looked forward to. That and brine were huge in the 80's 90's (but so was big hair).

Times change, the game has grown.

Lots of Crush kids on 2020 Suffolk, those are marquee players, yet that team is not doing well. So maybe there is more talent in other areas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

The thought of this is good, if the HS got behind it. Clubs have to much power. Even the Catholics dont do much as a school, just as a club.

Your telling me a team of the best Chaminade and ST Anthony's let along the outliers in the other catholic schools would go 0-3, sorry 0-4. No way in H. E. double hockey sticks

And the post of the "original kids". Player, please, many kids didnt tryout in the first place. So it was never truly a contest with the best kids. It was just another venue to play. Again great idea, Empires used to be a thing you looked forward to. That and brine were huge in the 80's 90's (but so was big hair).

Times change, the game has grown.

Lots of Crush kids on 2020 Suffolk, those are marquee players, yet that team is not doing well. So maybe there is more talent in other areas

That's because there's one player that makes Crush great, and he's not there, otherwise they are still good players but even with other good players from other clubs.

None of the good Chaminade and St Anthony kids were there. Great Idea if you get all the kids to tryout. The catholic team had public school kids on the team. co

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

The thought of this is good, if the HS got behind it. Clubs have to much power. Even the Catholics dont do much as a school, just as a club.

Your telling me a team of the best Chaminade and ST Anthony's let along the outliers in the other catholic schools would go 0-3, sorry 0-4. No way in H. E. double hockey sticks

And the post of the "original kids". Player, please, many kids didnt tryout in the first place. So it was never truly a contest with the best kids. It was just another venue to play. Again great idea, Empires used to be a thing you looked forward to. That and brine were huge in the 80's 90's (but so was big hair).

Times change, the game has grown.

Lots of Crush kids on 2020 Suffolk, those are marquee players, yet that team is not doing well. So maybe there is more talent in other areas

That's because there's one player that makes Crush great, and he's not there, otherwise they are still good players but even with other good players from other clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

None of the good Chaminade and St Anthony kids were there. Great Idea if you get all the kids to tryout. The catholic team had public school kids on the team. co

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Bridge the Gap

The thought of this is good, if the HS got behind it. Clubs have to much power. Even the Catholics dont do much as a school, just as a club.

Your telling me a team of the best Chaminade and ST Anthony's let along the outliers in the other catholic schools would go 0-3, sorry 0-4. No way in H. E. double hockey sticks

And the post of the "original kids". Player, please, many kids didnt tryout in the first place. So it was never truly a contest with the best kids. It was just another venue to play. Again great idea, Empires used to be a thing you looked forward to. That and brine were huge in the 80's 90's (but so was big hair).

Times change, the game has grown.

Lots of Crush kids on 2020 Suffolk, those are marquee players, yet that team is not doing well. So maybe there is more talent in other areas

That's because there's one player that makes Crush great, and he's not there, otherwise they are still good players but even with other good players from other clubs.

The whole thing is a joke. They have all the teams selected before the tryouts, and some kids never even get a look. They ran two fields for the tryouts, and there were no coaches on the second field. So are any of those kids getting a shot? I think not. Many that are on the team never went to the first or second tryout.

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

WI will be better by subtraction

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Congratulations to Scotty Craig, West Islip head coach for 32 years--enjoy your retirement. He and Bill Turri had a great run and made an impact on countless lives of young men.

Thanks from a former player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Scotty Craig, West Islip head coach for 32 years--enjoy your retirement. He and Bill Turri had a great run and made an impact on countless lives of young men.

Thanks from a former player.

Agree. Congrats.

Great career. In order to win championships you need great coaching and great athletes. West Islip had a nice run when they had both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Reels of sour grapes, but that’s botc, if your kid didn’t do it or make it it’s bad. Go away with your toxic attitude

Jealousy is the root of all evil ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Exactly why most of the kids invited did not attend. Would be surprised if they did it again next summer. Was a disaster this year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Reels of sour grapes, but that’s botc, if your kid didn’t do it or make it it’s bad. Go away with your toxic attitude

Nothing toxic at all and no sour grapes. Some simple questions thats all. Apparently you are the one with the toxic attitude.

Not a disaster. Over 620 players participated. Opening ceremony was great. Games were played despite bad weather. Over 50 college coaches were in attendance. All kids seemed to have a positive experience

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a disaster. Over 620 players participated. Opening ceremony was great. Games were played despite bad weather. Over 50 college coaches were in attendance. All kids seemed to have a positive experience

Heard the opposite from a couple different people who went. What they said was they saw no coaches, and their kids were miserable in the bad dorms with no AC. They also said the weather was terrible, and the drive was too far. Not a fun time. Oh, and way too $$$

Sayville due to bounce back to a contending program with the old coach back. Just a reminder how school boards led by their noses can make decisions that are deleterious to the student experience. Too late for my older boy but my younger son said everyone is hyped(?).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

WI will be better by subtraction

Are you talking about the retired H/C or is something else going on ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

WI will be better by subtraction

Are you talking about the retired H/C or is something else going on ?

Something else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Sachem East ? Didn’t know Sachem still exists anymore . North was decent for years but East ? Didn’t both have losing records past few years ? Well good luck to them would be nice. I went to Sachem back in the 90’s and they won a state title but don’t live in Suffolk anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Sachem East ? Didn’t know Sachem still exists anymore . North was decent for years but East ? Didn’t both have losing records past few years ? Well good luck to them would be nice. I went to Sachem back in the 90’s and they won a state title but don’t live in Suffolk anymore.

Just an observation:

The pool of strong HS programs is getting smaller on Long Island due to changing demographics and socioeconomic factors in many towns. For many years lacrosse was primarily a sport played by well to do kids from affluent ares and private / prep schools (Baltimore, Long Island, Main Line Philadelphia etc...) who went on to attend East Coast Colleges and Universities. On Long Island however many of the working class / blue collar towns had very strong High School programs. Farmingdale, Levittown, East Meadow, Elmont, Lynbrook, Sewanhaka, Sachem etc... The sport has evolved into a very expensive year round commitment that many families can not afford. It is not just the player, the whole family has to buy in. High Schools teams in towns where the majority of kids are not spending the money on private lessons year round, clinics year round, club teams year round are going to be at a disadvantage. The players from Manhasset, CHS, Garden City, Ward Melville etc... put in a tremendous amount of time and their parents spend a crazy amount of money from the time the kids are in the first or second grade. We still see some incredible players from many different high schools but in order for the team compete for a championship it needs depth. In order to have the depth of talent necessary you need to have a lot of very committed players and families. HHHE and Connetquot have been very strong and have had some excellent players but in the end depth has kept them from winning a championship. From the time my kids were young I have been out there on the Long Island Lacrosse Circuit you see kids from all over The Island but.... There were always more kids from certain towns. Unfortunately, although the sport has grown across the country I think it is now more than ever a sport for the wealthy.

Good Luck to all this year. I am guessing Smithtown West or Ward Melville in Suffolk A. Garden City or Manhasset in Nassau B. Massapequa in Nassau A. Did West Islip drop down? CHS will win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Reels of sour grapes, but that’s botc, if your kid didn’t do it or make it it’s bad. Go away with your toxic attitude

Nothing toxic at all and no sour grapes. Some simple questions thats all. Apparently you are the one with the toxic attitude.

Why don’t you explain how my statement was toxic? You are knocking something you didn’t participate in. If you don’t like it, why not just be silent. Didn’t mommy ever explain about saying nothing of you have nothing nice to say? Yell upstairs from your basement cave, I’m sure she will tell you in between making your breakfast and snack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO....The NYS Regional Championship @ Binghamton is a great idea. If the players from every region play it could go to another level of greatness. The high school coaches are on to something here but lets see if they make it happen

What exactly are they on to here? Who are the HS Coaches? Is this event run by fl$? Is there really a need for another summer tournament? HS summer teams, club teams, UA, Maverick etc... Do you really think there is a need for more?

Reels of sour grapes, but that’s botc, if your kid didn’t do it or make it it’s bad. Go away with your toxic attitude

Nothing toxic at all and no sour grapes. Some simple questions thats all. Apparently you are the one with the toxic attitude.

Why don’t you explain how my statement was toxic? You are knocking something you didn’t participate in. If you don’t like it, why not just be silent. Didn’t mommy ever explain about saying nothing of you have nothing nice to say? Yell upstairs from your basement cave, I’m sure she will tell you in between making your breakfast and snack.

Not the poster that you are responding to but ... I didn't read their thoughts as toxic, I read five questions. None of the questions have been answered BTW. As far as why your post was toxic... here you go.. You were asked some simple questions and instead of providing helpful answers you attacked the poster. Pretty toxic if you ask me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Sachem East ? Didn’t know Sachem still exists anymore . North was decent for years but East ? Didn’t both have losing records past few years ? Well good luck to them would be nice. I went to Sachem back in the 90’s and they won a state title but don’t live in Suffolk anymore.

Just an observation:

The pool of strong HS programs is getting smaller on Long Island due to changing demographics and socioeconomic factors in many towns. For many years lacrosse was primarily a sport played by well to do kids from affluent ares and private / prep schools (Baltimore, Long Island, Main Line Philadelphia etc...) who went on to attend East Coast Colleges and Universities. On Long Island however many of the working class / blue collar towns had very strong High School programs. Farmingdale, Levittown, East Meadow, Elmont, Lynbrook, Sewanhaka, Sachem etc... The sport has evolved into a very expensive year round commitment that many families can not afford. It is not just the player, the whole family has to buy in. High Schools teams in towns where the majority of kids are not spending the money on private lessons year round, clinics year round, club teams year round are going to be at a disadvantage. The players from Manhasset, CHS, Garden City, Ward Melville etc... put in a tremendous amount of time and their parents spend a crazy amount of money from the time the kids are in the first or second grade. We still see some incredible players from many different high schools but in order for the team compete for a championship it needs depth. In order to have the depth of talent necessary you need to have a lot of very committed players and families. HHHE and Connetquot have been very strong and have had some excellent players but in the end depth has kept them from winning a championship. From the time my kids were young I have been out there on the Long Island Lacrosse Circuit you see kids from all over The Island but.... There were always more kids from certain towns. Unfortunately, although the sport has grown across the country I think it is now more than ever a sport for the wealthy.

Good Luck to all this year. I am guessing Smithtown West or Ward Melville in Suffolk A. Garden City or Manhasset in Nassau B. Massapequa in Nassau A. Did West Islip drop down? CHS will win.

U absolutely nailed it , I say it all the time it’s a wealthy and a privilege sport. Why I don’t know it’s olayed in and open field and equipment can be ver cheap not like ice hockey. If you look at any major d1 schools most of the tram from privilege schools , Boys Latin , new Canaan , delberton , Hill academy , chamiade , saislbury , culver academy just to name a few some of those Schools are anywhere from 35k to 60k a year to board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Sachem East ? Didn’t know Sachem still exists anymore . North was decent for years but East ? Didn’t both have losing records past few years ? Well good luck to them would be nice. I went to Sachem back in the 90’s and they won a state title but don’t live in Suffolk anymore.

Just an observation:

The pool of strong HS programs is getting smaller on Long Island due to changing demographics and socioeconomic factors in many towns. For many years lacrosse was primarily a sport played by well to do kids from affluent ares and private / prep schools (Baltimore, Long Island, Main Line Philadelphia etc...) who went on to attend East Coast Colleges and Universities. On Long Island however many of the working class / blue collar towns had very strong High School programs. Farmingdale, Levittown, East Meadow, Elmont, Lynbrook, Sewanhaka, Sachem etc... The sport has evolved into a very expensive year round commitment that many families can not afford. It is not just the player, the whole family has to buy in. High Schools teams in towns where the majority of kids are not spending the money on private lessons year round, clinics year round, club teams year round are going to be at a disadvantage. The players from Manhasset, CHS, Garden City, Ward Melville etc... put in a tremendous amount of time and their parents spend a crazy amount of money from the time the kids are in the first or second grade. We still see some incredible players from many different high schools but in order for the team compete for a championship it needs depth. In order to have the depth of talent necessary you need to have a lot of very committed players and families. HHHE and Connetquot have been very strong and have had some excellent players but in the end depth has kept them from winning a championship. From the time my kids were young I have been out there on the Long Island Lacrosse Circuit you see kids from all over The Island but.... There were always more kids from certain towns. Unfortunately, although the sport has grown across the country I think it is now more than ever a sport for the wealthy.

Good Luck to all this year. I am guessing Smithtown West or Ward Melville in Suffolk A. Garden City or Manhasset in Nassau B. Massapequa in Nassau A. Did West Islip drop down? CHS will win.

West Islip should drop down into B division they have been on the bubble for a couple of years, they have a declining enrollment and to be honest it is very difficult for them to compete against the Ward Melville Smithtown programs. Still put out great lax players just lack the depth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

you're about half right and that isn't a good %

Sachem East ? Didn’t know Sachem still exists anymore . North was decent for years but East ? Didn’t both have losing records past few years ? Well good luck to them would be nice. I went to Sachem back in the 90’s and they won a state title but don’t live in Suffolk anymore.

Just an observation:

The pool of strong HS programs is getting smaller on Long Island due to changing demographics and socioeconomic factors in many towns. For many years lacrosse was primarily a sport played by well to do kids from affluent ares and private / prep schools (Baltimore, Long Island, Main Line Philadelphia etc...) who went on to attend East Coast Colleges and Universities. On Long Island however many of the working class / blue collar towns had very strong High School programs. Farmingdale, Levittown, East Meadow, Elmont, Lynbrook, Sewanhaka, Sachem etc... The sport has evolved into a very expensive year round commitment that many families can not afford. It is not just the player, the whole family has to buy in. High Schools teams in towns where the majority of kids are not spending the money on private lessons year round, clinics year round, club teams year round are going to be at a disadvantage. The players from Manhasset, CHS, Garden City, Ward Melville etc... put in a tremendous amount of time and their parents spend a crazy amount of money from the time the kids are in the first or second grade. We still see some incredible players from many different high schools but in order for the team compete for a championship it needs depth. In order to have the depth of talent necessary you need to have a lot of very committed players and families. HHHE and Connetquot have been very strong and have had some excellent players but in the end depth has kept them from winning a championship. From the time my kids were young I have been out there on the Long Island Lacrosse Circuit you see kids from all over The Island but.... There were always more kids from certain towns. Unfortunately, although the sport has grown across the country I think it is now more than ever a sport for the wealthy.

Good Luck to all this year. I am guessing Smithtown West or Ward Melville in Suffolk A. Garden City or Manhasset in Nassau B. Massapequa in Nassau A. Did West Islip drop down? CHS will win.

Pretty spot on observation.

WI will remain in A conference for another year. The girls moved down to B maybe next year for the boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Who are you, the Mike Francesa of high school sports? Give me a break!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Who are you, the Mike Francesa of high school sports? Give me a break!

I can guarantee Im more in the know of Suffolk Class A lacrosse than you...please though enlighten me...let me know where you think Im off here.........

I'm sure your employer is thrilled and compensates you for your vast knowledge of Suffolk Class A Hillbilly Lax knowledge. Put the donut down and go write some parking tickets...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Who are you, the Mike Francesa of high school sports? Give me a break!

I can guarantee Im more in the know of Suffolk Class A lacrosse than you...please though enlighten me...let me know where you think Im off here.........

I agree with his assessment what didnt you like.

I feel like I know a ton about Suffolk A, and know the other dads who are equally as knowledgeable with this Sr class and those below (probably friends with your Mike Francesa). and the only thing I am confident saying is Smith West (love the Fogo, how could you not) and Ward Melville (love the Poles and goalie) both have talented players at each position and SHOULD be there in the end. Not saying they will, just should.

I am not sure how anybody can be to certain about who else will be there at the end of the day. I am not saying its a 2 legged race, just the opposite. I think Ward Melville and Smith West will have their loses whether a battle or trap game. I also dont think they will both be there in the end. One, yes, but not both. Is it just me, but these are teams I just dont want to see play against each other, till the Playoffs.

My points, I would not snooze on WI and will put them a slight bit ahead of Northport. Both seem to grind it out with Hybrid Middies labeled as Attacks. Northport, please dont die your hair wasnt a good look. WI definitley with the edge on def. Look for this game or like opponents for these two throughout the season. Although young HHE will still represent well, who knows who will show up to play (Love that Middie and LSM/Pole). I wouldnt say they have no shot at final 4, i ate crow last year when i said that, yet somehow they beat SmithWest (I know how, West coach and the refs that's how). Inquiring minds would like to know how long that hybrid long pole was. - Change that HS rule from 52 to 60-72 inches long. but I digress, I too would put both Riverhead and Bay Shore in that mix. It has been said here before about those two teams. These two teams are polar opposites, many teams like one and hates the other. One is very selfish the other not selfish enough, both teams down falls. Wouldnt be surprised in the least to see one of them in the final four. But they will probably wind up ranked the 5 and 4 facing each other to then face #1. Look for this battle in season,

I will say this, last years record will allow Sachem East and Floyd to have an easy go of it. That could help them work out some kinks and gain some confidence. Should be a good game against each other. With East winning but in regulation and not OT. but a good game non the less. Smitheast and Commack are two more schools I look forward to seeing play head to head. Ill probably follow their like opponents for fun.. Lindy Whitman Hunt PAtMed who knows maybve 5 wins .

The team im most curious about is connetquot, loved them the past few years, not sure if you want to play them or stay far away from them. Just know they arent the same as they were the past 4 years.

I will say this however, i wouldn't be surprised if some district found a few "new" players. Ala girls lacrosse on the east end. i just hope Sect Xi doesn't let guest star appearances by 2019 Sr players happen. Leave that for the girls. Oh wait we are talking about A right now, thats in CtoB.

Final thoughts

**Still wished Sect 11 would let Brentwood Longwood North Babylon and Copaigue play more cross sectional games against like skilled team. even playing teams ranked 10-16 is tooooo much for them.

**With 27 teams in A, you can only play half anyway (14). Make the playoffs meaningful and schedule only 10 Suffolk class A games in season, let them go out and play 6 other teams from B/C Nassau/West /CT/NJ .

*After day light savings time Schedule more games for 5:30 pm, 4:15 and 4:30 are ridiculous. Play more Saturday or even Sunday games. Sunday before/After PAL games.

*Be smarter scheduling on the SAT/ACT/AP days, along with Prom, come on these schedules come out with enough time to rearrange schedules, let these kids enjoy HS.

*Have a bench ref at each game

Easter is the last week in April, use the break wisely - recharge do not deplete the batteries for the final stretch!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Sorry, did I understand you right, Sachem East should have made the playoffs in '18, why?
How? They only beat the 7 worst teams in Suffolk A (out of 24 teams, that means 17 more teams were better, only 11 go to playoffs) and Floyd, Floyd took them to OT. You're supposed to win those 7 games.

Sure, they came close to Smithtown (was impressed) and Northport (who had their issues) and dont say Commack, final score was not indicative. But dont/cant see where/who you can say Sachem East should be in the playoff?

[ChillLaxin] or is this an honest view

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say West Islip and CSH are traditional powers.

Wantagh would qualify as a non-traditional power looking to break out.

W.I. didn’t look too great this summer. They will be better during season, they always are but not county title bound.

"They will be better during season, they always are". "Always" really? They have been very average for many years and it does not look like they will improve any time soon.

2019 Final Four

Smithtown West
Ward Melville
HHHE
Sachem East

Two of these teams have NO SHOT at the final four....Hills is VERY young...East is decent should make the playoffs BUT they should have made the playoffs this year and didnt...dont see them anywhere near the final four
WM and SW loaded as usual....
Northport is solid and so is Bay Shore....Riverhead will be back in the mix...West Islip and Smithtown East would also be ranked ahead of Hills and Sachem...dont forget about connetquot and commack although theyll be down a taf from years past

Sorry, did I understand you right, Sachem East should have made the playoffs in '18, why?
How? They only beat the 7 worst teams in Suffolk A (out of 24 teams, that means 17 more teams were better, only 11 go to playoffs) and Floyd, Floyd took them to OT. You're supposed to win those 7 games.

Sure, they came close to Smithtown (was impressed) and Northport (who had their issues) and dont say Commack, final score was not indicative. But dont/cant see where/who you can say Sachem East should be in the playoff?

[ChillLaxin] or is this an honest view

HHHE wins Suffolk in 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HHHE wins Suffolk in 2019

No shot for HILLS .... Ward Melville will run the table

when do the rankings come out (for 2019) are they ever really officially posted

West Islip ???????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip ???????

They will have a better shot percentage!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HHHE wins Suffolk in 2019

No shot for HILLS .... Ward Melville will run the table

Smithtown West and Ward Melville have to be considered the front runners. Who else has a legitimate shot at making the Final Four?

as Someone who has seen what a lot of teams have coming back next year... I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bay Shore or Riverhead in the final 4 of Suffolk A next year... both have a better shot at the final 4 than HillsE imho. WM seems like a lock w what they have returning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

as Someone who has seen what a lot of teams have coming back next year... I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bay Shore or Riverhead in the final 4 of Suffolk A next year... both have a better shot at the final 4 than HillsE imho. WM seems like a lock w what they have returning.

I like both those teams you mention, but they will both have a much more difficult schedule. Probably I wouldnt snooze on HHH/West Islip. Its the race for 2 just not sure who #1 will be.

Which should make them battle tested. Bay Shore will be able to keep up with anyone offensively, the defensive side could be their Achilles heel. Riverhead is solid at the FO and on the offensive side as well. I agree West Islip will be better this year than last... they return a very good gk as well which is huge when you can steal a couple against the top teams. Should be a fun year.

What about the smaller schools, B & C divisions? What schools are returning a lot of players and are looking to improve. Islip was great last year for C, And Harborfields and Comsewogue were the leaders for B. Any opinions on what B & C will look like. They both are competitive divisions.

Garden City will win it all again this year on the Nassau division. Bethpage has a few key returning players but not much depth so we'll see how they do.

Would be great If BOTC can provide the different HS Scores, Rankings and All-Americans now that LaxPower is done.

Looking for some type of Fall lax and or winter box lax or training for a 2019 in Nassau. Anyone aware of anything?

Any word on the Farmingdale HS Lax League. They are always late but I haven't heard a thing.

Win....Crazy
Final Game....Impressive
Final Four....Expected!!

They will have 4-5 All-County players this year. GK's are both excellent and great young talented defenders. Let's see if they get it together.

Originally Posted by laxislife

Would be great If BOTC can provide the different HS Scores, Rankings and All-Americans now that LaxPower is done.

What happened to Laxpower.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the Farmingdale HS Lax League. They are always late but I haven't heard a thing.

Heard the whole thing folded. Anyone have any HS leagues for fall/winter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxislife

Would be great If BOTC can provide the different HS Scores, Rankings and All-Americans now that LaxPower is done.

What happened to Laxpower.

Laxpower is no longer in service...they shut down their site due to the parent company not seeing the value of managing the daily operations.

farmingdale lax stinks

"farmingdale lax stinks" LOL. Relative to what? They are a top 10% program in the country, annually top 4 in Nassau A. You must have very high (unrealistic) expectations and your son must cower behind the garage or under your single car car port with his vape to escape your unrealistic expectations. Go get a life. I'm guessing also you were no stud in any aspect of your life. angry LI punk.

Funny, without ever having met you I bet I just nailed 75% of who and what you are accurately. Not too late to change and be a positive influence in the world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"farmingdale lax stinks" LOL. Relative to what? They are a top 10% program in the country, annually top 4 in Nassau A. You must have very high (unrealistic) expectations and your son must cower behind the garage or under your single car car port with his vape to escape your unrealistic expectations. Go get a life. I'm guessing also you were no stud in any aspect of your life. angry LI punk.

Funny, without ever having met you I bet I just nailed 75% of who and what you are accurately. Not too late to change and be a positive influence in the world.

Hopefully they were talking about the Farmingdale league. I have also heard it folded. Does anyone have any decent option for getting the HS kids together Fall/Winter to prep for the spring. Tough call since other sports in full swing but welcome any suggestions.

Have your HS coach look into the winter league at Islip HS. Games played every Sunday

I believe MacArthur HS and Division Ave still run an outdoor winter league at their schools during the winter months. We participated a couple of years back. The MacArthur coach was the one who ran it I believe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"farmingdale lax stinks" LOL. Relative to what? They are a top 10% program in the country, annually top 4 in Nassau A. You must have very high (unrealistic) expectations and your son must cower behind the garage or under your single car car port with his vape to escape your unrealistic expectations. Go get a life. I'm guessing also you were no stud in any aspect of your life. angry LI punk.

Funny, without ever having met you I bet I just nailed 75% of who and what you are accurately. Not too late to change and be a positive influence in the world.

Hopefully they were talking about the Farmingdale league. I have also heard it folded. Does anyone have any decent option for getting the HS kids together Fall/Winter to prep for the spring. Tough call since other sports in full swing but welcome any suggestions.

The problem with the Fall league is you never know if a team will show up with enough players. With Football going on it is tough. Our school is doing a fall tournament or two and will be setting up scrimmages with friendly schools from what I'm hearing. We did the Bayshore league two years ago, but it was also tough to get a full team for every game.

Many schools have days where they go to a gym or facility and get some work in. Ask your coach if your school does that. Many times it isn't the coach (not sure if coaches are allow to do off season off campus activities) but many times dads or the booster club will get the funds to get a facility.

outdoor winter scrimmages are hit or miss, icey hard ground, bulky layers and broken sticks. For that play hockey, lol.

So wished 2 of the greatest Fall Tournaments on LI would find a compromise and go on a different weekends.

Rotanz Fall Classic and National Lacrosse Invite at Ward Melville fall games are on the same weekend.

Nov 17 - http://nliwm.com
but Fall classic has a club day the 17th making kids choose Club over HS - http://falllacrosseclassic.com/tournament/)

Nov 18 - http://falllacrosseclassic.com/invitational/

Where is the best place to find list of all the 2019 D2 college Verbals?? Looking to compare what school has what to help son pick the best school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is the best place to find list of all the 2019 D2 college Verbals?? Looking to compare what school has what to help son pick the best school.

The commitment center on the BOTC is the only listing of D2 commits Im aware of

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is the best place to find list of all the 2019 D2 college Verbals?? Looking to compare what school has what to help son pick the best school.

The commitment center on the BOTC is the only listing of D2 commits Im aware of

Just be careful the D1 listing is 75% at best. Havnt really checked the d2 list

Some boys got decommitted, some boys change schools, others are at the wrong position and I am sure we all know a few not listed. You best bet if your a 2019 is straight up asking the coach how many they have recruited in the class at that position.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will remain in A conference for another year. The girls moved down to B maybe next year for the boys.

Has a new head coach been named ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the Farmingdale HS Lax League. They are always late but I haven't heard a thing.

I figured they were starting late again. I called their number posted on their website from last year's league. Dynamic Sports picked up (Yes, the parent of DLT, 91, Ducks, East Coast Elite, Empire, and a bunch of other teams). The guy on the phone told me they were not running it this year because of lack of interest.

Interesting how the parent company of a travel program takes over this league, then shuts it down. Probably did it so the only option to play fall ball is through travel lax.

If your not on a travel team, not many options for HS lax players to keep a stick in their hand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will remain in A conference for another year. The girls moved down to B maybe next year for the boys.

Has a new head coach been named ?

Yes

Thanks for the enlightenment. Think you can spare a name ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the Farmingdale HS Lax League. They are always late but I haven't heard a thing.

I figured they were starting late again. I called their number posted on their website from last year's league. Dynamic Sports picked up (Yes, the parent of DLT, 91, Ducks, East Coast Elite, Empire, and a bunch of other teams). The guy on the phone told me they were not running it this year because of lack of interest.

Interesting how the parent company of a travel program takes over this league, then shuts it down. Probably did it so the only option to play fall ball is through travel lax.

If your not on a travel team, not many options for HS lax players to keep a stick in their hand.

I don't think it is working, because a few teams are going to the Hofstra Tourney in place of this or the DLT Fall Classic. The problem is many of the players do football or soccer, so the commitment to fall lacrosse has always been a challenge.

TOM Corcoran a fantastic guy and good coach , hopefully he is able to control the crazy parents .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TOM Corcoran a fantastic guy and good coach , hopefully he is able to control the crazy parents .

Yes, good guy. Not his job to control the meatheads. Lets see if he can bring WI back to relevance.

Good luck to Coach and players, make it a great year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TOM Corcoran a fantastic guy and good coach , hopefully he is able to control the crazy parents .

He can start with his Booster/camera guy "good time"

Yes my kid played for him, one tournament he brought in a guess player, my kid did not step on the field. Great guy my butt.

He’s one of Channeys boys - learned all the tricks from the master.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes my kid played for him, one tournament he brought in a guess player, my kid did not step on the field. Great guy my butt.

Really? The whole tournament your kid didn't step on the field? I call BS.

Very little playing time, use it has a life lesson and motivation for my son.

Hopefully the guy won't be around since his kid left the school.

What guy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What guy?

Booster club guy

test

Mother files lawsuit after son doesn't make high school soccer team....

LADUE, Mo. --
A federal judge has refused to order a Missouri high school to put a 16-year-old boy on a soccer team while his family sues for discrimination.

KSDK-TV reports that a federal judge denied the temporary restraining order Monday. The lawsuit is pending.

The lawsuit says the boy, identified as John Doe, didn't make the varsity soccer team at Ladue Horton Watkins High School, and was barred from returning to the junior varsity team because younger players are given precedence.

The lawsuit says that's discrimination, noting that the school lets female juniors play on the girls' junior varsity team.

In denying the restraining order, the judge said the school can set parameters for eligibility and success.

The Ladue School District said in a statement that it agrees with the judge's decision.

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

Be brave--Why don't you call the parents and his sibling and ask them? As opposed to asking anonymously on a LACROSSE blog.
This is what BOTC has lowered to? Welcoming these kinds of posts?
A HS teenager dies tragically and there is some sort of conspiracy to "hide" anything from lax dopes? Just because nobody called you personally an gave you the horrible details means that it was swept under the rug. Got it.
You my friend, are the lowest of the low.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

I'm assuming his parents have buried him.

Sarcasm aside, the situation is a very sad one for the family. And since this is a forum to discuss a different topic, why would this be a topic of conversation....

This is just terrible why don't you ban this person from being on the site . God Bless the family and his friends

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

Be brave--Why don't you call the parents and his sibling and ask them? As opposed to asking anonymously on a LACROSSE blog.
This is what BOTC has lowered to? Welcoming these kinds of posts?
A HS teenager dies tragically and there is some sort of conspiracy to "hide" anything from lax dopes? Just because nobody called you personally an gave you the horrible details means that it was swept under the rug. Got it.
You my friend, are the lowest of the low.

I cant imagine the families grief. It is nightmarish for any family to have to deal with this. But yes, inquiring minds want to know. I'd love to say I couldnt imagine this happening to anyone at that school but I could. Had this been at any other school there would have been more of it on the news and on here. Syosset Sayville Garden City imagine that. This school is no different from any other school, outside of its pervasive problem of partying. And much, if not all, gets swept under the rug. A change of leadership is necessary.

As a community why arent we hearing about social host issues and arrests. Had he been hit by a drunk driver it would have been all over the news. but that didnt happen. Yes it is sad,but this is the age of a different media and this is one medium. I for one would like to use this a teaching moment. For those of us lucky enough to keep hugging our children, yes, I want some detail so i can teach my children, heck scare my children.

I am surprised there is no report or news story about Where he got the Alcohol? How or if he fell, was it out of a car? where were his "perfect" friends? So many lessons to be learned and taught isnt that a better legacy to leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

Be brave--Why don't you call the parents and his sibling and ask them? As opposed to asking anonymously on a LACROSSE blog.
This is what BOTC has lowered to? Welcoming these kinds of posts?
A HS teenager dies tragically and there is some sort of conspiracy to "hide" anything from lax dopes? Just because nobody called you personally an gave you the horrible details means that it was swept under the rug. Got it.
You my friend, are the lowest of the low.

I cant imagine the families grief. It is nightmarish for any family to have to deal with this. But yes, inquiring minds want to know. I'd love to say I couldnt imagine this happening to anyone at that school but I could. Had this been at any other school there would have been more of it on the news and on here. Syosset Sayville Garden City imagine that. This school is no different from any other school, outside of its pervasive problem of partying. And much, if not all, gets swept under the rug. A change of leadership is necessary.

As a community why arent we hearing about social host issues and arrests. Had he been hit by a drunk driver it would have been all over the news. but that didnt happen. Yes it is sad,but this is the age of a different media and this is one medium. I for one would like to use this a teaching moment. For those of us lucky enough to keep hugging our children, yes, I want some detail so i can teach my children, heck scare my children.

I am surprised there is no report or news story about Where he got the Alcohol? How or if he fell, was it out of a car? where were his "perfect" friends? So many lessons to be learned and taught isnt that a better legacy to leave.

Exactly why I asked. There are a lot of details that I would like to know. It is a tragedy most defiantly, and there are contributing factors that seemed to be hushed up. Why?? All the kids know about what happened. When my son asked me and I had no knowledge, but it was all over social media, there is a big problem!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the St. A Jr who died following an alcohol fueled party. Why was this swept under the rug. Does anyone know what happened?

Be brave--Why don't you call the parents and his sibling and ask them? As opposed to asking anonymously on a LACROSSE blog.
This is what BOTC has lowered to? Welcoming these kinds of posts?
A HS teenager dies tragically and there is some sort of conspiracy to "hide" anything from lax dopes? Just because nobody called you personally an gave you the horrible details means that it was swept under the rug. Got it.
You my friend, are the lowest of the low.

I cant imagine the families grief. It is nightmarish for any family to have to deal with this. But yes, inquiring minds want to know. I'd love to say I couldnt imagine this happening to anyone at that school but I could. Had this been at any other school there would have been more of it on the news and on here. Syosset Sayville Garden City imagine that. This school is no different from any other school, outside of its pervasive problem of partying. And much, if not all, gets swept under the rug. A change of leadership is necessary.

As a community why arent we hearing about social host issues and arrests. Had he been hit by a drunk driver it would have been all over the news. but that didnt happen. Yes it is sad,but this is the age of a different media and this is one medium. I for one would like to use this a teaching moment. For those of us lucky enough to keep hugging our children, yes, I want some detail so i can teach my children, heck scare my children.

I am surprised there is no report or news story about Where he got the Alcohol? How or if he fell, was it out of a car? where were his "perfect" friends? So many lessons to be learned and taught isnt that a better legacy to leave.

Exactly why I asked. There are a lot of details that I would like to know. It is a tragedy most defiantly, and there are contributing factors that seemed to be hushed up. Why?? All the kids know about what happened. When my son asked me and I had no knowledge, but it was all over social media, there is a big problem!

First I am hearing about this event as well. How about we take this tragic story and use it as a teaching moment. Help to raise awareness and enlighten our kids who think it can never happen to them. Prayers and strength to the family.

Stop the BS that you want to use it as a "teaching moment". All you are concerned about are the salacious details that will add to your real problem with SA when you mentioned " This school is no different from any other school, outside of its pervasive problem of partying"
Its a veiled attack on SA, not some concern for any of the kids involved--"A change of leadership is necessary". Really? A school with 2400+ students, all who are on social media like most/all young teens, is weeping under the rug or covering up something? Nice try.
Cmon', all you want to do is knock SA down a notch. You really want to scare your child or make them more aware of the problems they confront every day? Then open Newsday and read about the opiod problems or DWI arrests that occur on a daily basis. But to say that knowing what happened to this particular young man is just a crock.

Tragic accident. There is no cover up. Newsday happened to miss the story. St. A's had nothing to do with what happened. The kid had been a student there for less than a month...(not to say there aren't many issues prevalent at St. A's though). Many lives have been and are currently affected by what happened.

Okay football's Is in full swing, who thinks football success lead to lax success? Out east with Ward Melville and West Islip, I'm sure those seniors would love to capture a title in both. Massapequa and Farmingdale battle it out on the gridiron and the Dalers look to repeat in the spring. Nassau Garden City looks formidable to clear the tables both.

what team's out there truly have their 6-10 studs or starters playing both?

Top 5 Suffolk teams this season ?

Pequa will be a lot harder to beat in lacrosse come spring.

WM
SW
HHHE
West Islip

Finals
WM
HHHE

Champs
HHHE by 3 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM
SW
HHHE
West Islip

Finals
WM
HHHE

Champs
HHHE by 3 goals.

Didn't WI lose their best player from last years team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Suffolk teams this season ?

Northport, Huntington, Smithtown E/W, Hauppauge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Suffolk teams this season ?

Northport, Huntington, Smithtown E/W, Hauppauge

Smithtown w , WM , HHHE , WI , Sachem E .

What about Ward Melville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville

Bwahahah, Its them, then everyone else! First year that I am not so sure 2 - 10 are separated by much.

Someone threw in Haupagge, What about Mt Sinai? Hills East, East Ilsip?

But didnt the coaches already sit about the rankings, what was the outcome from that?

Originally Posted by NassauLaxDad516

Garden City will win it all again this year on the Nassau division. Bethpage has a few key returning players but not much depth so we'll see how they do.

Bethpage? What about CSH, Wantagh, Locust Valley, Floral Park, Lynbrook & North Shore. Bethpage will be lucky to finish 4th. Most of the teams on this list have the potential to beat each other.

Wantagh / CSH . Two horse race.

Out in Suffolk, Huntington will be worse this year than they were last year. Lost a key player or two to private school and they were bad to begin with.

NORTHPORT?????????????? Seriously

Now that's funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NORTHPORT?????????????? Seriously

Now that's funny

Not that funny, heard they were preseason rank of 4.
Great start. Can't wait to see how the schedule layout.

Top 5 Ranked by High school coaches are
WM
Smith W
West I
Northport
Bayshore

I don't think anyone will compete with WM too many weapons after that they are all competing for second . Good luck to all the teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Ranked by High school coaches are
WM
Smith W
West I
Northport
Bayshore

Northport will never go anywhere with that coach. He retired from teaching but still coaching, don't know how he pulled that off with his record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Ward Melville

Bwahahah, Its them, then everyone else! First year that I am not so sure 2 - 10 are separated by much.

Someone threw in Haupagge, What about Mt Sinai? Hills East, East Ilsip?

But didnt the coaches already sit about the rankings, what was the outcome from that?

WM was ranked number one in D1
Mount Sinai ranked 1 in D2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Ranked by High school coaches are
WM
Smith W
West I
Northport
Bayshore

Northport will never go anywhere with that coach. He retired from teaching but still coaching, don't know how he pulled that off with his record.

Where did you get these rankings? How does the rest of the top 10 layout? What about Riverhead? I'd swap out Northport with Riverhead. Who does Northport have coming back who did they loose? Riverhead has at least 2 Mids 2 Att 2 Def a goalie and a faceoff coming back. What does Northport have 2 maybe 3 players. Id put Northport with Sachem and that is not a dig, I think they will both be good teams but not top 4. Where does Connetquott and HHE stand. or how about Smithtown East they are a dangerous team what about Commack.

Any of the teams do a winter league or any fall games where we can watch them play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Ranked by High school coaches are
WM
Smith W
West I
Northport
Bayshore

Northport will never go anywhere with that coach. He retired from teaching but still coaching, don't know how he pulled that off with his record.

Where did you get these rankings? How does the rest of the top 10 layout? What about Riverhead? I'd swap out Northport with Riverhead. Who does Northport have coming back who did they loose? Riverhead has at least 2 Mids 2 Att 2 Def a goalie and a faceoff coming back. What does Northport have 2 maybe 3 players. Id put Northport with Sachem and that is not a dig, I think they will both be good teams but not top 4. Where does Connetquott and HHE stand. or how about Smithtown East they are a dangerous team what about Commack.

Any of the teams do a winter league or any fall games where we can watch them play?

What About West Islip ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 Ranked by High school coaches are
WM
Smith W
West I
Northport
Bayshore

Northport will never go anywhere with that coach. He retired from teaching but still coaching, don't know how he pulled that off with his record.

Where did you get these rankings? How does the rest of the top 10 layout? What about Riverhead? I'd swap out Northport with Riverhead. Who does Northport have coming back who did they loose? Riverhead has at least 2 Mids 2 Att 2 Def a goalie and a faceoff coming back. What does Northport have 2 maybe 3 players. Id put Northport with Sachem and that is not a dig, I think they will both be good teams but not top 4. Where does Connetquott and HHE stand. or how about Smithtown East they are a dangerous team what about Commack.

Any of the teams do a winter league or any fall games where we can watch them play?

What About West Islip ??

What about them?

WI has been irrelevant for a decade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has been irrelevant for a decade

That statement is just Fake news. Go away troll.

They have not been a true contender for five or six years but they have been pretty good. They had a great run from around 2002 - 2012. Before that not much to show and since then a bit of a drop off. Not sure how they will do this year but I do not think they will be in the mix for a county championship. New year, new coach who knows maybe they will surprise. Certainly should be top six in league.

Next 5
Again by Coaches, they sit down and vote
6 Commack
7 Hills east
8 Sachem East
9 Smithtown East
10 Riverhead

How about Suffolk B? SWR, BBP, Islip, Mt. Sinai, Harborfields.......Lots of parity, should be interesting. Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has been irrelevant for a decade

If you know the teams as welll as I think I do.
West Islip has a great shot at 3, maybe even 2 if not for Smith West fogo.
I think Smithtown East and Riverhead should be ranked a lot higher closer to BShore.

Not my ending prediction but yeah I think smarter than the coaches preseason

Ward
Swest
Wslip
Vrhead
Bshore
Seast
Hillse
Nport
Sachem
Mack

You know a fun idea, the townships do an all star game against each other. Gives areas like Smithtown the chance to play one more time together like they did when they were little as Combined team. Or maybe as qualifying for Nassau Suffolk game.

Babylon
Huntington
Islip
Smithtown
Brookhaven
Riverhead and East (south/shelter)
Hamptons (south/east)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Suffolk B? SWR, BBP, Islip, Mt. Sinai, Harborfields.......Lots of parity, should be interesting. Any thoughts?

all of these schools are C except for harborfields- B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Suffolk B? SWR, BBP, Islip, Mt. Sinai, Harborfields.......Lots of parity, should be interesting. Any thoughts?

all of these schools are C except for harborfields- B

Ok, then call it Div II, which is where they all play before playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Suffolk B? SWR, BBP, Islip, Mt. Sinai, Harborfields.......Lots of parity, should be interesting. Any thoughts?

all of these schools are C except for harborfields- B

Ok, then call it Div II, which is where they all play before playoffs

i think in B- comseqogue and hills west C- SWR Mt Sinia Islip

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by NassauLaxDad516

Garden City will win it all again this year on the Nassau division. Bethpage has a few key returning players but not much depth so we'll see how they do.

Bethpage? What about CSH, Wantagh, Locust Valley, Floral Park, Lynbrook & North Shore. Bethpage will be lucky to finish 4th. Most of the teams on this list have the potential to beat each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh / CSH . Two horse race.

Out in Suffolk, Huntington will be worse this year than they were last year. Lost a key player or two to private school and they were bad to begin with.

Re CSH & Wantagh very likely true. Locust Valley offense should be explosive and they have a goalie that can be a difference maker. Floral park has some key returning SR's on Offense, have a pretty good fogo and solid Long stick. North Shore has a great do-it-all player on offense along with two solid attackmen that when tghey play their roles can be extremely effective, plus at least 1 solid defenseman and very good coaching. Bethpage does have some quality returnees but graduated a ton of offense, could be good if they play smart and more disciplined. Although Lynbrook has some quality players they tend to be better than the sum of their parts due to the schemes they use. It will be an interesting year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has been irrelevant for a decade

That statement is just Fake news. Go away troll.

They have not been a true contender for five or six years but they have been pretty good. They had a great run from around 2002 - 2012. Before that not much to show and since then a bit of a drop off. Not sure how they will do this year but I do not think they will be in the mix for a county championship. New year, new coach who knows maybe they will surprise. Certainly should be top six in league.

Wow top 6 !

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Hopefully WI can take this football run over to the Lax field 2020 class has some great athletes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully WI can take this football run over to the Lax field 2020 class has some great athletes

Doesn't their best FB player play baseball? Not sure about how many lacrosse kids play FB. Did the player who left play football? WI should do okay in lacrosse but not sure they have the horses to compete for the county championship. I guess we will wait and see. That is why they play the games.

Good luck Lions, Good luck to the new coach.

Won a Class A Championship in 2012 and went to county final in 2014. If my math is correct that is less than 10 years ago.

When does NYS reconfigure the state playoff bracket so that the two strongest Sections aren't knocking each other off so early in playoffs?

Nassau and Suffolk should be able to meet for the NYS state title. Until this happens, you don't really have a fair format.

West Islip finished FIRST just 2 seasons ago in 2016, in Suffolk County Class A, the most competitive public school league in the country. People are clueless about posting getting them back to relevance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip finished FIRST just 2 seasons ago in 2016, in Suffolk County Class A, the most competitive public school league in the country. People are clueless about posting getting them back to relevance.

No. They did not. Not trying to knock WI but I am pretty sure their last County Championship was back in 2012.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip finished FIRST just 2 seasons ago in 2016, in Suffolk County Class A, the most competitive public school league in the country. People are clueless about posting getting them back to relevance.

No. They did not. Not trying to knock WI but I am pretty sure their last County Championship was back in 2012.

Here's some relevance for you Mr. Clueless, it was WM in 2016

https://projects.newsday.com/databases/long-island/high-school-boys-lacrosse-champions/?where=year=2016;level=Suffolk;class=Class%20A&offset=0

State playoff format will not be changed back anytime soon. Down state/updtate was instituted to reduce cost and travel time for schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip finished FIRST just 2 seasons ago in 2016, in Suffolk County Class A, the most competitive public school league in the country. People are clueless about posting getting them back to relevance.

No. They did not. Not trying to knock WI but I am pretty sure their last County Championship was back in 2012.

Here's some relevance for you Mr. Clueless, it was WM in 2016

https://projects.newsday.com/databases/long-island/high-school-boys-lacrosse-champions/?where=year=2016;level=Suffolk;class=Class%20A&offset=0

The last time WI made it to County Championship was in 2014, where they were smoked by Smithtown East, who also went on to beat WM in the Counties in 2015.

If anyone has watched last year Ward Melville will dominate again this year and as for WI they will struggle they do not have any offense

Never said they won the county championship. I said they finished first in 2016. They were the one seed in the playoffs that year. Look it up!!

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

It depends on how good you are...

WI was first 1 seed Team ever to Lose to the 9 in 2nd Round of playoffs in 2016

Outcoached and outplayed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

That is one of the reasons that Tierney left Princeton and headed West To Denver. The new President didn't want to sacrifice the education standards to let a few lax players in. He also didn't want to give money to "Wall Street Lawyers" Kids, as I heard it. Same with Dartmouth, they won't let a player in if they don't qualify.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

That is one of the reasons that Tierney left Princeton and headed West To Denver. The new President didn't want to sacrifice the education standards to let a few lax players in. He also didn't want to give money to "Wall Street Lawyers" Kids, as I heard it. Same with Dartmouth, they won't let a player in if they don't qualify.

Hmmm I think Tierny started seeing the direction that the school was going in regards to the overall student body at Princeton. He and his wife also wanted to go West.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

That is one of the reasons that Tierney left Princeton and headed West To Denver. The new President didn't want to sacrifice the education standards to let a few lax players in. He also didn't want to give money to "Wall Street Lawyers" Kids, as I heard it. Same with Dartmouth, they won't let a player in if they don't qualify.

Hmmm I think Tierny started seeing the direction that the school was going in regards to the overall student body at Princeton. He and his wife also wanted to go West.

As a general rule, the Ivies require a 1300 or better, however, I know of one kid, who is not even a top recruit, who was told he needs a 1250 for Yale. Also, Ivies are not allowed to give athletic money. They only give need based aid. So it's only a good choice for kids with unlimited funds, or those with family income below 200k, where the aid can be better than the typical lax scholarship at other good schools. For a typical lax family with an income in the 300k range, although Ivies will provide a great opportunity for a high paying job, there will also be massive debt involved.

The greatest crime being committed today is the burdening of college bound students with back breaking debt. I coach a few kids who are choosing SUNY schools (Bing and Geneseo) instead of privates because of the final cost. I really can't blame and I thought it was a brave decision. Walking away from better programs to attend college without the immense debt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The greatest crime being committed today is the burdening of college bound students with back breaking debt. I coach a few kids who are choosing SUNY schools (Bing and Geneseo) instead of privates because of the final cost. I really can't blame and I thought it was a brave decision. Walking away from better programs to attend college without the immense debt.

So true! Life is bigger than Lacrosse. These kids have to carefully weigh their options. Ivies are not the best option for all kids, but a home run for others. Basically best for those at opposite ends of the financial spectrum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

That is one of the reasons that Tierney left Princeton and headed West To Denver. The new President didn't want to sacrifice the education standards to let a few lax players in. He also didn't want to give money to "Wall Street Lawyers" Kids, as I heard it. Same with Dartmouth, they won't let a player in if they don't qualify.

Hmmm I think Tierny started seeing the direction that the school was going in regards to the overall student body at Princeton. He and his wife also wanted to go West.

As a general rule, the Ivies require a 1300 or better, however, I know of one kid, who is not even a top recruit, who was told he needs a 1250 for Yale. Also, Ivies are not allowed to give athletic money. They only give need based aid. So it's only a good choice for kids with unlimited funds, or those with family income below 200k, where the aid can be better than the typical lax scholarship at other good schools. For a typical lax family with an income in the 300k range, although Ivies will provide a great opportunity for a high paying job, there will also be massive debt involved.

Need base aid is given to incomes 60k or under. My daughter just graduated from a Ivy and that was the amount at her school.
We also have a cousin who is playing lax at Yale. His HS grades were a 94 average and an 28 ACT. Every school is different but generally most Ivys (not all) will take an athlete with below what most kids need to get in. Seems the cutoff is a 90 average or better for ivy lax players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question, with national letters of intents being signed soon, I have heard in prior years of boys who hadn't made the grade or rather SAT thresholds and had to switch. This year that doesn't seem to be the issue. Are this years crop of players as a whole just that much smarter? All I keep hearing are scores north of 1300. What does a 90's student need? What schools do you need it at? Or are schools much more lenient than past years or is it just much quitier?

What schools do you need a
1100+
1200+
1300+
1400+
1500+

That is one of the reasons that Tierney left Princeton and headed West To Denver. The new President didn't want to sacrifice the education standards to let a few lax players in. He also didn't want to give money to "Wall Street Lawyers" Kids, as I heard it. Same with Dartmouth, they won't let a player in if they don't qualify.

Hmmm I think Tierny started seeing the direction that the school was going in regards to the overall student body at Princeton. He and his wife also wanted to go West.

As a general rule, the Ivies require a 1300 or better, however, I know of one kid, who is not even a top recruit, who was told he needs a 1250 for Yale. Also, Ivies are not allowed to give athletic money. They only give need based aid. So it's only a good choice for kids with unlimited funds, or those with family income below 200k, where the aid can be better than the typical lax scholarship at other good schools. For a typical lax family with an income in the 300k range, although Ivies will provide a great opportunity for a high paying job, there will also be massive debt involved.

Need base aid is given to incomes 60k or under. My daughter just graduated from a Ivy and that was the amount at her school.
We also have a cousin who is playing lax at Yale. His HS grades were a 94 average and an 28 ACT. Every school is different but generally most Ivys (not all) will take an athlete with below what most kids need to get in. Seems the cutoff is a 90 average or better for ivy lax players.

It’may be 60k or under for a complete full ride including room board and books at certain Ivies. Some Ivies have an enven higher threshold for the full ride. It slides from there. For example those with an income of about 150k will pay about 20k for a70k school. Don’t take my word for it, all the Ivies have cost estimate calculators on their web sites. What makes these schools special, is that they are so well endowed, they can be generous in making it affordable for those privileged to be accepted. They give only need based aid, no money for merit or athletics is allowed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

State playoff format will not be changed back anytime soon. Down state/updtate was instituted to reduce cost and travel time for schools.

Same topic on girls HS site.

I get the cost but doesn't give a true representation of state championship. The top schools should not play first round every year.

At one time I think that 1250 or 28 was good for ivy, but now those scores can only be top tier players. The bar has moved the past few (2) years for a good or solid player. Thinking 1400 32 are closer to the mark for lower tier players with promise

It DOES give a true representation of the State Champion, just not necessarily the State Runner-up...so it really doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It DOES give a true representation of the State Champion, just not necessarily the State Runner-up...so it really doesn't matter.

No, looking at it at a simple 1 game series it might but the road through XI is much deeper than the other leagues. Each year there should be a round robin effect of the leagues that play each other.

I would say there are maybe 4 leagues that could stake a claim to this theory. It should be done like the tournament of Champions. Rank teams and have them play accordingly Highest vs Lowest until there are two left standing. How can Nj and Ct do it. you will say the states size isnt so large, I call it BS and laziness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The greatest crime being committed today is the burdening of college bound students with back breaking debt. I coach a few kids who are choosing SUNY schools (Bing and Geneseo) instead of privates because of the final cost. I really can't blame and I thought it was a brave decision. Walking away from better programs to attend college without the immense debt.

So true! Life is bigger than Lacrosse. These kids have to carefully weigh their options. Ivies are not the best option for all kids, but a home run for others. Basically best for those at opposite ends of the financial spectrum.

Attend a good school and MAYBE play or attend a good to great school and have a great time playing and getting education. My buddies soon attending a top 20 program's school, hated it, felt like a slave even after winning national champ a few years ago. Just know what you are signing up for. They own your azz.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It DOES give a true representation of the State Champion, just not necessarily the State Runner-up...so it really doesn't matter.

No, looking at it at a simple 1 game series it might but the road through XI is much deeper than the other leagues. Each year there should be a round robin effect of the leagues that play each other.

I would say there are maybe 4 leagues that could stake a claim to this theory. It should be done like the tournament of Champions. Rank teams and have them play accordingly Highest vs Lowest until there are two left standing. How can Nj and Ct do it. you will say the states size isnt so large, I call it BS and laziness.

YES! YES! I was just saying this on the lady lax forum.

How is St. Dominics lacrosse?

A few very good players, but no depth...

They beat Chaminade every year, lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few very good players, but no depth...

Yes there starters can hang in there, but when they go to their second lines that's when the depth issues come in.

How is Suffolk A Division this year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few very good players, but no depth...

Yes there starters can hang in there, but when they go to their second lines that's when the depth issues come in.

Are they competitive in their games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Suffolk A Division this year ?

Huntington will be a contender with the new head coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Suffolk A Division this year ?

Huntington will be a contender with the new head coach.

Don't count out West Islip they have a bunch of young talent

Huntington will not contend. They may be more competitive than last year but they have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. ZERO. And only slightly higher chance of finishing in the top 6. Tell that to "Stick" and for him to stick it.rvkk8v

Good Luck to all the players this weekend playing in the travel games at Sachem will be a ton of coaches and talent ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington will not contend. They may be more competitive than last year but they have zero chance of finishing in the top 4. ZERO. And only slightly higher chance of finishing in the top 6. Tell that to "Stick" and for him to stick it.rvkk8v

Ouch big dog. "Stick" says your son isn't good enough and apologizes that your son has to deal with you.

Lol. Goes to show even further that stick does not know what he is talking about and taking stabs in the dark about me and my relationship with my sons... His Blue Devil bias and inferiority complex clouds his judgement. Not meant to disparage Huntington, just a matter of what they have to put on the field. Cham, Img and St. A's have depleted them-nothing against the good people... Good luck. Hope I'm wrong on the Huntington call, but doubtful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol. Goes to show even further that stick does not know what he is talking about and taking stabs in the dark about me and my relationship with my sons... His Blue Devil bias and inferiority complex clouds his judgement. Not meant to disparage Huntington, just a matter of what they have to put on the field. Cham, Img and St. A's have depleted them-nothing against the good people... Good luck. Hope I'm wrong on the Huntington call, but doubtful.

JUST STAY IN FLORIDA !!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol. Goes to show even further that stick does not know what he is talking about and taking stabs in the dark about me and my relationship with my sons... His Blue Devil bias and inferiority complex clouds his judgement. Not meant to disparage Huntington, just a matter of what they have to put on the field. Cham, Img and St. A's have depleted them-nothing against the good people... Good luck. Hope I'm wrong on the Huntington call, but doubtful.

JUST STAY IN FLORIDA !!!!!!!!

REALLY ?

FREDDY!!!!!!!

Sayville should bein the mix as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville should bein the mix as well.

As should Harborfields

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sayville should bein the mix as well.

As should Harborfields

Teams to watch in the B league- Harborfields, East Islip and Comsewogue

Teams to watch in the C League- Mt. Sinai, Islip , SWR and Sayville.

Harborfields graduated their do everything all-American-who did in fact do everything for them. He will not be replaced. I see them dropping back to mediocrity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harborfields graduated their do everything all-American-who did in fact do everything for them. He will not be replaced. I see them dropping back to mediocrity.

Says the elitist lax dad who is still bitter about being beaten last year. Surprised that you're ignorant enough to suggest that one player won them a Suffolk County championship. You really should be smarter than that. The "do everything all-American" in fact wasn't All-American. He was, however, a great player that was a huge part of their success because he stepped up big time and lead. HF runs a solid year-round program that the kids buy into, has great coaches and returns a bunch of starters from last season. Look for them to be anything but mediocre or risk having to come up with another lame excuse as to why you lost.

Agreed on all of the above about HF. I thought he was HM AA. Perhaps I erred-he certainly should've been if he wasn't.
Just stating will be shocked if they have the same success this year. Good luck. I'll wish you congratulations if you do and you can set your rose colored glasses aside if you don't Mr. soft skin, offended cheerleader! Yeah, your first LI championship and county title appearance ever(?), no reason you shouldn't expect that to happen again this year--maybe give a little credit to those just graduated that brought you to those lofty levels. hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed on all of the above about HF. I thought he was HM AA. Perhaps I erred-he certainly should've been if he wasn't.
Just stating will be shocked if they have the same success this year. Good luck. I'll wish you congratulations if you do and you can set your rose colored glasses aside if you don't Mr. soft skin, offended cheerleader! Yeah, your first LI championship and county title appearance ever(?), no reason you shouldn't expect that to happen again this year--maybe give a little credit to those just graduated that brought you to those lofty levels. hammerhead.

Mr. Soft Skin, offended cheerleader?...that's just not nice. Again, you should be a little smarter if you feel the need to contribute to a thread. Reading comprehension is clearly not a strength. But I get it, so here goes. The original post was about "teams to watch". I never suggested that HF "expects" to win a county championship this year but it is obviously the goal of each coach and player. By the way, it was HF's first county title win in 26 years. The last time they won was in '92 when all three current coaches played on that team. Everyone in the program now knows how hard it is to accomplish, doesn't take it lightly and stays confident yet humble. Anyway, in your original post, you immediately categorized the team as now being mediocre because one player graduated, you never gave credit to the others that you now mention who brought us to "those lofty levels". So, who is really the "hammerhead" here? Me thinks it's you. Tough to backtrack when you put something in writing. The kids that graduated were all talented but certainly not "irreplaceable", not even the "do everything all-American that did everything". I hope that the parents, coaches and players of whatever lax dynasty you come from feel the same each year. Next man up, right? Now go back and re-read this a few times before your next swiss cheese response. And try to hold back on the name calling, it doesn't do you or your elegant prose any justice.

You started the name calling "ignorant" , "elitist"; So careful with your stones in your glass house. Congrats to all the boys returning in your program and the coaches. Great year. Good luck this season. And, the kid WAS that good. I can't see the future and I have no need to continue arguing with you behind a screen. Will check back in re: Harborfields in June.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You started the name calling "ignorant" , "elitist"; So careful with your stones in your glass house. Congrats to all the boys returning in your program and the coaches. Great year. Good luck this season. And, the kid WAS that good. I can't see the future and I have no need to continue arguing with you behind a screen. Will check back in re: Harborfields in June.

'nuff said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You started the name calling "ignorant" , "elitist"; So careful with your stones in your glass house. Congrats to all the boys returning in your program and the coaches. Great year. Good luck this season. And, the kid WAS that good. I can't see the future and I have no need to continue arguing with you behind a screen. Will check back in re: Harborfields in June.

'nuff said

GO WEST ISLIP !!!!

Harborfields? Not even the best team in the town of Huntington... Probably 4th, maybe not even, behind in no particular order Northport, CSH and the Hills'

In Suffolk II, many of the teams being talked about now have been very good through the years.

East Islip, ESM, Rocky Point, Comsewogue and of course Hills (but like Smithtown, Hills gets split for HS) were the best in this group. Harborfields if i remember correctly were never in the conversation of "better" teams. Last year, they were able to blend with a very good '18. Next year they will have a few 20's but not sure how they will blend next year. In my eyes your '18 from last year will be hard to be replaced. Yes next man up for every team but please dont diminish the value of Last years player. East Ilsip lost a good Goalie next man up. Rocky Point lost a FO next man up
ESM was always built around a talented '19 bunch. Hills has some good talent but do they have a goalie or Fogo

Will the young guns at SWR and Mt Sinai steer the ship. But really, has the wool been pulled off and uncovered that this is a weak league. Will Sayville and BBP just be a bump in the road, for SWR and Mt Sinai or true contenders. Islip, surprised we dont hear more about their goalie, they have two very underrated Sr's. Can they put the team on their back. will Kings Park or Miller Place have a say?

129 days

Beware of the stones coming your way for speaking the TRUTH. Well said above.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware of the stones coming your way for speaking the TRUTH. Well said above.

Another one w/ a crystal ball either condemning or praising teams they actually know little about. Laughable. Too bad this isn't a horse racing forum where we could turn your wisdom into some cash

"Know nothing about." LOL. Ok Coach. We all watched youth lacrosse for years, club lacrosse and have seen high school games in the fall, summer and spring and know the rosters and who is who pretty darn well by this point. So you may know your team inside and out but we can all shape our opinions and views on teams as whole based on what we have witnessed over the last decade so unless a family with stud triplets has moved into Centerport that no one knows about I feel pretty good about my opinion (which is what a forum is right? a place to share opinions) and I certainly respect and agree with the fella that wrote his eloquent assessment on League 2 in his view which i think is pretty spot on. We get it, you think Harbofields is great. Keep fighting all the of all the other guys that think their teams might be greater! Sorry to ruin your weekend. Sorry for the run on sentence.. back to work. Thanks for the break.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware of the stones coming your way for speaking the TRUTH. Well said above.

I'm used to it. Last year I blogged more on div 1. than div 2. The break down of b/c caught me off guard. The harborfields person knows I am right. Half the people who read it know I'm right. I like his positivism. I am hyped for the teams I follow.

Harborfields, listen, for all your boys did LY they still surprised me. The tough early losses threw me for a loop, which cast my doubt at the end. This year if you have quality wins early I'll give you your props. (Throw insults my way that I know nothing okay). But, I think you guys are like ESM last year, your young guys play with to much emotion to easy to get under their skin. Perhaps I know where they get it from. I thought ESM would have been better LY but they were young and to aggressive, some leadership over there a year wiser will fit them well. I still hate to like them. But Sewogue and west have marque players, hype or hope.

Oh before I forget, did HWest pick up 2 transfers or was that all summer rumors. Or is 2 really just 1.

Good luck in FB for now.

At least you have coaches. Smithtown East Athletic Director can't get his act together. Still no coach!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At least you have coaches. Smithtown East Athletic Director can't get his act together. Still no coach!

Sad because they have a neat team out there, still havnt figured out where they will fall in the mix of Div 1. Somewhere 5-10?

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

with teams in the Football Championships this weekend, those schools will have a lighter turnout.

well WI, LINDY not exactly power houses any more .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

well WI, LINDY not exactly power houses any more .

WI still relevent, Ward Melville, Westhampton vs Hills West, Mt Sinai vs SWR and in Nassau Garden City, CSH, Wantagh and Plainedge are all relevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,
10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Port vs Wogue vs Hills East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

well WI, LINDY not exactly power houses any more .

WI still relevent, Ward Melville, Westhampton vs Hills West, Mt Sinai vs SWR and in Nassau Garden City, CSH, Wantagh and Plainedge are all relevant.

WI still relevant you really believe that give me a break lucky to make playoffs , Hills West, Westhampton WOW .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At least you have coaches. Smithtown East Athletic Director can't get his act together. Still no coach!

So funny, Smithtown parents are sending around a petition for Smithtown Schools to hire a certain coach.....good luck with that!

Pequa vs WM this weekend. WM will show them again that they are the best on the Island.

West Islip will be B in lax for 20 season... new Sheriff in B...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At least you have coaches. Smithtown East Athletic Director can't get his act together. Still no coach!

So funny, Smithtown parents are sending around a petition for Smithtown Schools to hire a certain coach.....good luck with that!

The guy isn't even qualified to be a head coach, was a last resort. Definitely not the right person. Athletic director is useless, and it's a shame for the kids not on quality travel teams in terms of hopes to play in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will be B in lax for 20 season... new Sheriff in B...

Maybe you will be able to compete because it will not happen in Div 1, you still will not get off the island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa vs WM this weekend. WM will show them again that they are the best on the Island.

How will football impact the Patriots? Are they also hosting a tournament the day before. Iron-man lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At least you have coaches. Smithtown East Athletic Director can't get his act together. Still no coach!

So funny, Smithtown parents are sending around a petition for Smithtown Schools to hire a certain coach.....good luck with that!

Get Keenan to coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,
10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Port vs Wogue vs Hills East

Didn't include WI nor the WM Pequa game because of football.

Will also note, that its nice to see Smithtown West, Harborfield, Sachem E, Huntington doubling up this weekend.

Is WM that deep they can host a lax tournament on the same weekend as a county championship football game? You really had to schedule a noon (11:45) and 3pm game, how about letting the boys go to the football game and cheer on their friends and teammates. LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE LEADERSHIP OUT THERE!!!!! SHAME ON YOU!

Ward Melville District is Gigantic... They SHOULD win it every year and should be embarrassed when they don't.

Looking through A schedules some things pop out.

Preseason games of the year to put on your calendar
4/25 Smithtown West @ Ward Meliville
4/14 West Islip @ Smithtown West

The season kicks off Friday 3/22 with some dandies.
Hills East @ Smithtown West
Commack @ WI
Riverhead @ Northport

Week 2 has most teams scheduled to play 3 games (Tues/Thur/Sat). Will weather impact the first few games is always a crap shoot. This week could prove to be a tough one for Bay Shore, Commack, and Hills East. With a 1/4 of the schedule planned to be completed by 3/30, this should separate the teams in the rankings.

SH/EH/BH/Pier/Ross is now playing A schools? Smithown East, Hills East, Connetquot have them on the schedule. WHY?

Why is Riverhead and Connetquot playing on a lot of the lowest ranked teams' schedules. Brentwood, Longwood, Copaigue, North Babylon, Middle Country. There are 17 teams other teams in League I for Riverhead and Connetquot to play. No reason what-so-ever to play a majority of the bottom 7 teams if you are, or claim to be, a top 7 team. I can see maybe playing two of the teams (1 for certain) but 4 or 5 of the last 7 teams in the league. Thought Riverhead and Connetquot would have had a tougher schedules. Don't complain about points later in the season if the wins are there but not the rankings.

It seems a late Easter/passover hurts the chances of another Saturday game in late April. Lets see how much changes between now and Jan.

Farmingdale is a complete money grab , last year the fields were unsafe and they did not cancel . The teams are looking at the same conditions again this year, when we learn not to do these notIntelligent fall tourneys .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking through A schedules some things pop out.

Preseason games of the year to put on your calendar
4/25 Smithtown West @ Ward Meliville
4/14 West Islip @ Smithtown West

The season kicks off Friday 3/22 with some dandies.
Hills East @ Smithtown West
Commack @ WI
Riverhead @ Northport

Week 2 has most teams scheduled to play 3 games (Tues/Thur/Sat). Will weather impact the first few games is always a crap shoot. This week could prove to be a tough one for Bay Shore, Commack, and Hills East. With a 1/4 of the schedule planned to be completed by 3/30, this should separate the teams in the rankings.

SH/EH/BH/Pier/Ross is now playing A schools? Smithown East, Hills East, Connetquot have them on the schedule. WHY?

Why is Riverhead and Connetquot playing on a lot of the lowest ranked teams' schedules. Brentwood, Longwood, Copaigue, North Babylon, Middle Country. There are 17 teams other teams in League I for Riverhead and Connetquot to play. No reason what-so-ever to play a majority of the bottom 7 teams if you are, or claim to be, a top 7 team. I can see maybe playing two of the teams (1 for certain) but 4 or 5 of the last 7 teams in the league. Thought Riverhead and Connetquot would have had a tougher schedules. Don't complain about points later in the season if the wins are there but not the rankings.

It seems a late Easter/passover hurts the chances of another Saturday game in late April. Lets see how much changes between now and Jan.

Where are you getting the schedules?

http://www.sectionxi.org/v3/schedules.asp?menu=

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a complete money grab , last year the fields were unsafe and they did not cancel . The teams are looking at the same conditions again this year, when we learn not to do these notIntelligent fall tourneys .

Did Rotanz sell the Fall Invite to DLT boys. It's probably at a discount. Where else could you play. His buddy at St. Joe's field?

At least it's not forecasted to rain, wonder how the field near the tennis courts will fair. The Turf and the field across from pool house is always in good shape..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking through A schedules some things pop out.

Preseason games of the year to put on your calendar
4/25 Smithtown West @ Ward Meliville
4/14 West Islip @ Smithtown West

The season kicks off Friday 3/22 with some dandies.
Hills East @ Smithtown West
Commack @ WI
Riverhead @ Northport

Week 2 has most teams scheduled to play 3 games (Tues/Thur/Sat). Will weather impact the first few games is always a crap shoot. This week could prove to be a tough one for Bay Shore, Commack, and Hills East. With a 1/4 of the schedule planned to be completed by 3/30, this should separate the teams in the rankings.

SH/EH/BH/Pier/Ross is now playing A schools? Smithown East, Hills East, Connetquot have them on the schedule. WHY?

Why is Riverhead and Connetquot playing on a lot of the lowest ranked teams' schedules. Brentwood, Longwood, Copaigue, North Babylon, Middle Country. There are 17 teams other teams in League I for Riverhead and Connetquot to play. No reason what-so-ever to play a majority of the bottom 7 teams if you are, or claim to be, a top 7 team. I can see maybe playing two of the teams (1 for certain) but 4 or 5 of the last 7 teams in the league. Thought Riverhead and Connetquot would have had a tougher schedules. Don't complain about points later in the season if the wins are there but not the rankings.

It seems a late Easter/passover hurts the chances of another Saturday game in late April. Lets see how much changes between now and Jan.

3/21
Mt Sinai @ Hills West
EI @ Sowegue

3/27
ESM @ Harborfields
Sowegue @Miller Place

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a complete money grab , last year the fields were unsafe and they did not cancel . The teams are looking at the same conditions again this year, when we learn not to do these notIntelligent fall tourneys .

Did Rotanz sell the Fall Invite to DLT boys. It's probably at a discount. Where else could you play. His buddy at St. Joe's field?

At least it's not forecasted to rain, wonder how the field near the tennis courts will fair. The Turf and the field across from pool house is always in good shape..

If you were in the know, today wasn't a money grab. The fields were also the best they've been in for this event. Looks like a lot of work going on.

Thank you for hosting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a complete money grab , last year the fields were unsafe and they did not cancel . The teams are looking at the same conditions again this year, when we learn not to do these notIntelligent fall tourneys .

I have to disagree. There were great coaches all over the place, and the fields we played on were in great condition. Just a shame that most of the teams were sophmores playing because there were other showcases and football going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale is a complete money grab , last year the fields were unsafe and they did not cancel . The teams are looking at the same conditions again this year, when we learn not to do these notIntelligent fall tourneys .

I have to disagree. There were great coaches all over the place, and the fields we played on were in great condition. Just a shame that most of the teams were sophmores playing because there were other showcases and football going on.

Not sure about most teams? What are most teams a few sure but not certain it was most? Which teams

My team had plenty of seniors and juniors who ran the box,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

HHE they are really bad and have come off huge from last year , Port Wash had a couple of decent players and WI does not have the only thing that might save them is their faceoff guy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

HHE they are really bad and have come off huge from last year , Port Wash had a couple of decent players and WI does not have the only thing that might save them is their faceoff guy

Um.....No. About average in every area

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

HHE they are really bad and have come off huge from last year , Port Wash had a couple of decent players and WI does not have the only thing that might save them is their faceoff guy

WI has more than a couple D1 caliber players: Goalie, D, middie, Attack. And then the fogo. And then the next tier. Not sure of their depth. Lot of others team's have some depth but They'll be in the mix. I didn't mention them above because they have the football game. I hope your comments weren't just from Sunday. If they were, they are short sided, if thy weren't then I'd question your knowledge on this year's teams

IF you really think WI will go far then your knowledge is very minimal yes they have a very good goalie and a good defense which is what will help them stay in many games but they have zero offense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

HHE they are really bad and have come off huge from last year , Port Wash had a couple of decent players and WI does not have the only thing that might save them is their faceoff guy

WI has more than a couple D1 caliber players: Goalie, D, middie, Attack. And then the fogo. And then the next tier. Not sure of their depth. Lot of others team's have some depth but They'll be in the mix. I didn't mention them above because they have the football game. I hope your comments weren't just from Sunday. If they were, they are short sided, if thy weren't then I'd question your knowledge on this year's teams

Didn’t WI best player transfer to private school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn’t WI best player transfer to private school?

How did Sachem East play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn’t WI best player transfer to private school?

How did Sachem East play?

I don't know why don't you tell us? You certainly cannot base anything on these results. I wouldn't expect much from them

Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn’t WI best player transfer to private school?

How did Sachem East play?

It is fall ball. Half the kids that were playing won't be playing varsity this spring. It means nothing.

Maybe they went to SE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe they went to SE

No word from SE Athletic Director, just hoping the kids have a coach by March.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn’t WI best player transfer to private school?

Thanks for letting us know Dad! We were all so worried about him. Guess WI is done now.

Yes they

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!

"Yes they
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!"

They must have gotten tired of having to deal with all the Syosset people...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

They all went to Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Yes they
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!"

They must have gotten tired of having to deal with all the Syosset people...

No they still teach and coach other sports!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Yes they
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!"

They must have gotten tired of having to deal with all the Syosset people...

No they still teach and coach other sports!!!

So what happened then?

Another brouhaha with the School Board / Administration?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Yes they
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!"

They must have gotten tired of having to deal with all the Syosset people...

No they still teach and coach other sports!!!

So what happened then?

Another brouhaha with the School Board / Administration?

ugh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Yes they
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that JC lost his core Asst. Coaching Staff over at Syosset? What happened?

Yes not one assistant coach is back!!"

They must have gotten tired of having to deal with all the Syosset people...

No they still teach and coach other sports!!!

So what happened then?

Another brouhaha with the School Board / Administration?

.

Something to do with a film session that a player recorded.

Yes, you're correct, they're aren't blessed with limitless offensive studs (like years gone bye) but there is talent and more importantly IQ on their fields. I think it is very dangerous making West Islip a non-factor this early. (unless you're from the pride and want to sandbag).

I also think Ward Melville's only competition on the island is the Big 2 Catholics, and there I still see Ward Melville with the edge. But back to West Islip, I think they will be in the mix, somewhere with a ranking between 2 and 5.

Time will tell. Just remember defense wins championships (and WOOHA, from Goalie on up Melville is stacked there too). Outside of the Patriots and Blue Bulls who do you think are poised to make some moves?

Anonymous -
IF you really think WI will go far then your knowledge is very minimal yes they have a very good goalie and a good defense which is what will help them stay in many games but they have zero offense

Anonymous -
Lets see this weekend how the teams do at Farmingdale , schedule is out so this should show at least what returning talent the top Div 1 teams have .... Good Luck to all

Easy there! It's fall ball....means nothing!

Not sure what it means, because yes its fall ball, but it is certainly not nothing!

Some of the better games for LI that are currently scheduled,

Saw most of these and the hen some. Some good some Ugly and some head scratchers. On a positive note, the fields held up nicely.

10:40 Harborfields vs ESM should be interesting 7
Wasn't interesting. ESM disappointed today Harborfields didn't.

12:40 Yorktown vs Smithtown West (is fogo hurt) 1
Disappointed (was fogo hurt)? Wanted to see a battle at X

12:40 Sachem vs Northport vs Locust Valley 4
Good match ups. Interesting here with Sachem and Northport.

12:40 Commack vs Smithtown East 20
East who is your coach? Kudos to Commack or St Dom's ugh

12:40 Bay Shore vs Carey 7
Horrible mismatch or efficient Bay Shore?

1:40 Sachem East vs Riverhead 21
Riverhead over matched their opponents. Bad matchups.

Northport, Sachem N, Bay Shore, and Riverhead could be very interesting

1:40 Mt Sinai vs Syo 3
Couldn't be everywhere, no clue.

Port vs Wogue vs Hills East
West Islip, Comsewogue, Port good mix. Hills East as disappointing as ESM.

Quote -
HHE they are really bad and have come off huge from last year , Port Wash had a couple of decent players and WI does not have the only thing that might save them is their faceoff guy

Quote -
WI has more than a couple D1 caliber players: Goalie, D, middie, Attack. And then the fogo. And then the next tier. Not sure of their depth. Lot of others team's have some depth but They'll be in the mix. I didn't mention them above because they have the football game. I hope your comments weren't just from Sunday. If they were, they are short sided, if thy weren't then I'd question your knowledge on this year's teams

"No they still teach and coach other sports!!!"

Oh, poor guys...so they still have to deal with the Syosset people...

WM will not have an easy go against Chaminade and St.A this spring. Both teams are stacked. WM usually scrimmages St. A early in the year. We will know soon enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will not have an easy go against Chaminade and St.A this spring. Both teams are stacked. WM usually scrimmages St. A early in the year. We will know soon enough.

I beg to differ, we wont know as much as we like from the SA vs WM scrimmage. I'll use the old Syo philosophy from years past, its just a scrimmage means nothing. As far as Chaminade, I think SA will beat them 2/3. As for Chaminade vs WM, I'll take 91's/Legacy D over Express's attack anyday. And outside of Chaminade's goalie I'm not so sure with their poles.

Caveat: It is tough to beat a team 3 times

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Sachem East play?

I don't know why don't you tell us? You certainly cannot base anything on these results. I wouldn't expect much from them

Scored an impressive amount of goals the first 2, but not sure if the 3rd game showed how they may come up short against some teams like they did against Riverhead.

Chaminade vs SA will be great games as always. Always want to win the third game. As for Chaminade poles, they have two great close D juniors coming up. Their defense will be fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM will not have an easy go against Chaminade and St.A this spring. Both teams are stacked. WM usually scrimmages St. A early in the year. We will know soon enough.

I beg to differ, we wont know as much as we like from the SA vs WM scrimmage. I'll use the old Syo philosophy from years past, its just a scrimmage means nothing. As far as Chaminade, I think SA will beat them 2/3. As for Chaminade vs WM, I'll take 91's/Legacy D over Express's attack anyday. And outside of Chaminade's goalie I'm not so sure with their poles.

Caveat: It is tough to beat a team 3 times

Pequa has a very good goalie, good D and great face-off guy, I think if the attack kid going to Hofstra stays healthy he could have a big year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has a very good goalie, good D and great face-off guy, I think if the attack kid going to Hofstra stays healthy he could have a big year.

Fair assesment. Good or not, I think there will be lots of pressure on the goalie whomever they put there, but with a great fogo and stud pole, i think some pressure may be lifted. I agree about attack but why forgot about that proto-typical 2-way Middie? They will definitely be the best of the western half of the island in A. Not to sure about the other def and goalie's in Nassau A so Pequ should should put up points. They always talk about Suffolk only being a 2 man race, I think Nassua only has 2/3 teams too okay maybe 4. Pequa/Dalers/Port or Syo. Same ole same ole, will Oceanside make any noise?

This years Pequa Chaminade game should be interesting, if it's still on?

When are St A's and Chaminade NOT stacked? They recruit, they take the cream of the crop...definition of stacked IMO.

"Chaminade vs SA will be great games as always. Always want to win the third game. As for Chaminade poles, they have two great close D juniors coming up. Their defense will be fine."

Only two good Dmen coming up at Chaminade? Down year for them i guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Chaminade vs SA will be great games as always. Always want to win the third game. As for Chaminade poles, they have two great close D juniors coming up. Their defense will be fine."

Only two good Dmen coming up at Chaminade? Down year for them i guess.

He didn’t say “good;” he said a certain two juniors were GREAT. Not “good “ or “solid”, but GREAT. If so great, why were they not pulled up to varsity last year like some other 2020s?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Chaminade vs SA will be great games as always. Always want to win the third game. As for Chaminade poles, they have two great close D juniors coming up. Their defense will be fine."

Only two good Dmen coming up at Chaminade? Down year for them i guess.

He didn’t say “good;” he said a certain two juniors were GREAT. Not “good “ or “solid”, but GREAT. If so great, why were they not pulled up to varsity last year like some other 2020s?

Sorry, the only great on that team is the big middie. Fogo is very good but can get handled by a strong LSM (but having to use an LSM would probably classify him as very good). The rest are good.

"Only two great defensemen this year at Chaminade..."

Got it. Thanks Dad. Down year for Chaminade D this year I guess.

For the record, there is ONE great defensemen in the 20 class...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Chaminade vs SA will be great games as always. Always want to win the third game. As for Chaminade poles, they have two great close D juniors coming up. Their defense will be fine."

Only two good Dmen coming up at Chaminade? Down year for them i guess.

He didn’t say “good;” he said a certain two juniors were GREAT. Not “good “ or “solid”, but GREAT. If so great, why were they not pulled up to varsity last year like some other 2020s?

Sorry, the only great on that team is the big middie. Fogo is very good but can get handled by a strong LSM (but having to use an LSM would probably classify him as very good). The rest are good.

Thanks for watching the Flyers so closely!

Separate question?
What are the top conferences in country?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Separate question?
What are the top conferences in country?

Suffolk County D1

Jr FOGO is GREAT. One jr. defenseman is GREAT.

Suffolk DII

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Start Kindergarten at 6 and then hold back Freshman year, frankly its pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Start Kindergarten at 6 and then hold back Freshman year, frankly its pathetic.

You forgot holdback as PG as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Start Kindergarten at 6 and then hold back Freshman year, frankly its pathetic.

You forgot holdback as PG as well.

Boarding Schools like Deerfield or Salisbury are not High Schools, per se. The are college preparatory schools. Comparing Sachem East to Hotchkiss is like comparing CW Post to an Ivy League. All NE boarding schools have PG's. In fact, most freshman lacrosse players at Duke or Notre Dame have PGed somewhere, unless they were 4.0 students in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has a very good goalie, good D and great face-off guy, I think if the attack kid going to Hofstra stays healthy he could have a big year.

Fair assesment. Good or not, I think there will be lots of pressure on the goalie whomever they put there, but with a great fogo and stud pole, i think some pressure may be lifted. I agree about attack but why forgot about that proto-typical 2-way Middie? They will definitely be the best of the western half of the island in A. Not to sure about the other def and goalie's in Nassau A so Pequ should should put up points. They always talk about Suffolk only being a 2 man race, I think Nassua only has 2/3 teams too okay maybe 4. Pequa/Dalers/Port or Syo. Same ole same ole, will Oceanside make any noise?

This years Pequa Chaminade game should be interesting, if it's still on?

Massapequa is going to run away with the Nassau title. No other team is going to be close. Way too many weapons and players in the 2019 and 2020 classes. Every starter is a D1 commit. Farmingdale will be 2nd has best coaches in the conference behind Massapequa. Farmingdale gets more out of the talent they have than any other program. 3rd place will be Syosset. Yet this will be the last time we mention Syosset in the top of the mix. Syosset is falling apart. Nepotism and loss of athletes is really hurting this program. Port Washington is done.Senior class is very weak. Can the Junior class carry them. Only way is if they stay healthy. Coaching maybe the worst on Long Island. Oceanside new coach lets see if new results. Maybe then can break into the top 4. They may do so if they can beat Port. All other teams in this conference are weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Start Kindergarten at 6 and then hold back Freshman year, frankly its pathetic.

You forgot holdback as PG as well.

Boarding Schools like Deerfield or Salisbury are not High Schools, per se. The are college preparatory schools. Comparing Sachem East to Hotchkiss is like comparing CW Post to an Ivy League. All NE boarding schools have PG's. In fact, most freshman lacrosse players at Duke or Notre Dame have PGed somewhere, unless they were 4.0 students in high school.

Not true at all.

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Who’s Smithtown East coach this coming year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Lololol

So lets take the best kid at every position on LI and put them on same team, and let them repeat a year, they would compete with anyone one in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For Public school Suffolk Div 1 is still the best in country but Maryland and CT Private has by far top talent in country

Those private school varsity kids are 19, and some even 20. Who cares.

Start Kindergarten at 6 and then hold back Freshman year, frankly its pathetic.

You forgot holdback as PG as well.

Boarding Schools like Deerfield or Salisbury are not High Schools, per se. The are college preparatory schools. Comparing Sachem East to Hotchkiss is like comparing CW Post to an Ivy League. All NE boarding schools have PG's. In fact, most freshman lacrosse players at Duke or Notre Dame have PGed somewhere, unless they were 4.0 students in high school.

Not true at all.

Are you sure with at all. Come on, some/most. kids from Westchester, LI ET Al. are already hold backs there wouldn't be surprised if they also PG for a better school on top. We know them. Can say at all.

Be honest with yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Lololol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Lololol

Saint Ants, Chaminade, WM, Pequa, GC Manhasset would be the only teams on LI that can beat those schools.

The hill is ridiculous. They spent spring break in the Md area and spanked teams. A public might win a game here and there. In general, it would be a beat down.

THE SCHOOLS IN DALLAS ARE EPISCOPAL AND WOODLANDS. THE BOYS ARE CAN BE SUPER ATHLETIC WITH LIMITED STICKS SKILLS. ON THE GIRLS
SIDE THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE OR TWO COMMITTED TO BIG D1 SCHOOLS THAT WOULD'NT SEE THE FIELD OF A GOOD EAST COAST HIGH SCHOOL TEAM.

Um, Manhasset? If you are putting them on the list then there are about 5 other LI teams that in your theoretical world would beat those national teams as well...

Chaminade beat some of these teams this summer at the National High School Tournament Session one. They won the tournament and beat these teams with their PG kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Lololol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Culver , Hill Academy , sailsbury , Bullis , Georgetown prep another one in Texas these schools are anywhere from 45k to 50k a year . I seen them play on ESPN they are ridiculous good. You look at college rosters they are filled with these schools . Don’t think many High schools from LI can hang with them.

Lololol

Saint Ants, Chaminade, WM, Pequa, GC Manhasset would be the only teams on LI that can beat those schools.

PAST NHSLS CHAMPIONS.
Calvert Hall always the bridesmaid never the bride.

2018: Flyers 8 – Calvert Hall 6 / Session II: Mountain Lakes 6 – Haverford 3 / JV Session: Lincoln Sudbury 10 – Ridgewood 3
2017: McDonogh 9 – Calvert Hall 5 / Session II: Haverford 9 – Salisbury 7
2016: Flyers 8 – St. Paul’s 3 / Session II: Haverford 10 – New Canaan 7
2015: McDonogh 8 – Calvert Hall 4
2014: McDonogh 10 – Ward Melville 6
2013: Georgetown Prep 9 – Boys’ Latin 4

Anyone catch the FLG show. Are they taking the place of Mike Quick and his red headed Rappaport side kick. What has it been 2 years. Could be interesting. Not sure i like the Facebook aspect, but content was good.

Keep it up. looking forward to it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who’s Smithtown East coach this coming year ?

No one wants that job.. Too many parents with D! dreams in their eyes..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Manhasset? If you are putting them on the list then there are about 5 other LI teams that in your theoretical world would beat those national teams as well...

Realistically you live in a terrible town, with an even worst program. That list would give any teams in the country a run.

My point was that Manhasset over the last two years certainly wouldn't have and some hammerhead from there is promoting them or doesn't know the landscape...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The hill is ridiculous. They spent spring break in the Md area and spanked teams. A public might win a game here and there. In general, it would be a beat down.

Hill Academy played Maryland Terps in the fall and won by 1 ! That was kept under wraps by UMD but very real outcome and Terps played their 1 and 2's mostly.

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

What about Yale?

True

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

What about Yale?

As soon as a D 1 program signs a kid they are immediately looking for his replacement. Get used to it.

Isn't the point to recruit as many good players as you can? Injuries happen and they will each improve competing against each other everyday... And, he is not on campus yet and there are no guarantees.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't the point to recruit as many good players as you can? Injuries happen and they will each improve competing against each other everyday... And, he is not on campus yet and there are no guarantees.

If the boy coming in is better than the current kid, then the coach has done an incredible job of recruiting. Not only did he strengthen an extremely important position, but he kept that player from an opposing team. If the original poster's son (just a guess) is as good as he says, he'll still get plenty of reps. Or, he'll be the backup and do his best when he gets his opportunities. Either way, he's going to get a quality education.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

You have no business posting on this or any site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

Please explain the back stab. You talking about the Aussie coming in. Where is 20 yo coming from, Wasnt he just 18 over the summer? How old is your '18? Okay so they got deeper, still not a back stab. They were able to bring in two great fogo's in '18 with another coming in '19. I'd bet that isn't the only position they will be deep at?

Help me understand your beef

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

You have no business posting on this or any site.

Says Who? why cant he/she post and voice their opinions? I get why they would be pissed but its still not a back stab. Coach, Maybe you could get TZ to sub in for you. Anyone else see the resemblance or am I the only one?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boy Cornell has one of the best FO kids in the country coming in, and they back stab him and bring in a 20 year old FO kid.

What about Yale?

As soon as a D 1 program signs a kid they are immediately looking for his replacement. Get used to it.

And welcome ladies and gents to the dream of NCAA college sports! Yup the dream we have all spent thousands of dollars on!

Borderline nightmare for most student athletes......unicorns and rainbows for the select few.

The university owes you absolutely nothing other than a opportunity for a great education.

The boy attends Cornell, congrats and awesome. If he really thinks he has been stabbed in the back, it sounds like he is unwilling to do what it takes to earn the spot of starting FO. Tell him to hang up the cleats, enjoy college and prep for the real world.

Your an A hole, the kid has nothing to do with this conversation , I am sure he will keep working hard and win the starting spot he is that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your an A hole, the kid has nothing to do with this conversation , I am sure he will keep working hard and win the starting spot he is that good.

Um, according to your original post the kid has everything to do with this conversation. How did you expect people to respond? It's what happens here

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

What About West Islip they are returning many good young players

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

Don’t underestimate Commack. They went undefeated at Farmingdale and their Junior class is good. They will be competitive this year.

Should be competitive but were in weak division at Farmingdale

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

Don’t underestimate Commack. They went undefeated at Farmingdale and their Junior class is good. They will be competitive this year.

I dont think anyone is underestimating Commack. They have been in a lot of posts earlier. I dont think Bayshore Northport or Riverhead are. Will be interesting with those 4.

Did I hear Zummo right. Are schedule and home and away dictated by rank. That is unfair. Why not alternate home and away each time you play that could be a distinct advantage or disadvantage depending how it falls.?

Can anyone explain that better or further.
1 plays 2 at home? If Melville is always 1 and Smithtown 2 how is that fair that it is always a home game for the Patriots? No way West should be playing at Melville. That is Bull!

Section xi should never let that happpen. Year after year they should alternate locations. unless higher seed wants to travel to lower seed. Doesnt matter if it is consecutive years or not if i can look up when a team plays the section should be able to also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

Loved how the FLG vlog asked the question how many 2019 will be "young enough" for US U19 team in 2020.

Kudos to Tommy for brigning up playing OOC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

Loved how the FLG vlog asked the question how many 2019 will be "young enough" for US U19 team in 2020.

It also sounded like the 2-5 slots in Nassau A are up for grabs.

Why did they brush over West Islip when they are ranked 3rd in Div 1 , I thought WI had some good talent returning with a great Goalie

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did they brush over West Islip when they are ranked 3rd in Div 1 , I thought WI had some good talent returning with a great Goalie

This will bleed into which districts miss the Catholic Boys the most. ( no order)

Northport
Mt Sinai
Bay Shore
Massapequa
Commack
East Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why did they brush over West Islip when they are ranked 3rd in Div 1 , I thought WI had some good talent returning with a great Goalie

He commented why, said he thought they were ranked to high. Put you guys at 6th
Patriots
Bulls
Marauders
Tigers
Blue waves
Lions

"Did I hear Zummo right. Are schedule and home and away dictated by rank. That is unfair. Why not alternate home and away each time you play that could be a distinct advantage or disadvantage depending how it falls.?

Can anyone explain that better or further.
1 plays 2 at home? If Melville is always 1 and Smithtown 2 how is that fair that it is always a home game for the Patriots? No way West should be playing at Melville. That is Bull!

Section xi should never let that happpen. Year after year they should alternate locations. unless higher seed wants to travel to lower seed. Doesnt matter if it is consecutive years or not if i can look up when a team plays the section should be able to also."

Just like in football the league schedules are completed determined by seed. Week 1 1vs 2 @ 1 4s.5 @ 4 ... week 2 (game two) 1 vs. 7@ 7... etc the names of the schools just get dropped in next to the number seeds by week... the above was just an example. no politcis or bias, simply a formula. the the victors (or highest seed) go the spoils.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

every dune dog has his day !

Should be fun year in Suffolk County , I wish all the boys the best of luck and a healthy year .... Good Luck to the WI Lions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

every dune dog has his day !

unless that dog breaks up a legacy!

Ward Melville will destroy everyone ... Merry Christmas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

every dune dog has his day !

unless that dog breaks up a legacy!

too Funny....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets get back to HS lax , lets see who the top 4 Suffolk Div 1 teams are , WM, SW, Bay Shore , Northport .... with maybe Riverhead Commack trying to fight for 500

Why would you think Bay Shore or Northport will be better than Riverhead or Commack this upcoming year? The other two I understand, but I really think you guys are underestimating those two teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

Doubt the Floyd coach had anything to do with the HB...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Floyd is going to make some noise.

Did I hear right, there is a hodl back at WF? Why? To each their own but really WF?

Doubt the Floyd coach had anything to do with the HB...

Does it really matter , its high school varsity lacrosse. I get the hold back argument when kids are in 6, 7th grade playing cub and one kid is 2 feet taller than another , by the time they get to high school just doesn't matter.

Conf 1 is trash. Udale, Fport, Bwin, Hempted, all solid opponents

West Islip will be in the county finals

Why do the top public teams avoid playing top prep school teams,simple answer hold backs, it matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the top public teams avoid playing top prep school teams,simple answer hold backs, it matters.

When you have teams full of 19, 20, and 21 year olds as is the case with most of the top prep schools it may matter, but when you have a few 1 year hold backs sprinkled through out Nassau/Suffolk public school lacrosse , it really dosent matter .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the top public teams avoid playing top prep school teams,simple answer hold backs, it matters.

When you have teams full of 19, 20, and 21 year olds as is the case with most of the top prep schools it may matter, but when you have a few 1 year hold backs sprinkled through out Nassau/Suffolk public school lacrosse , it really dosent matter .

Stop crying.....ya baby!

Just saying your an stunad if you don't think it matters. my kids on age an on varsity has a 9th grader , no need to cry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the top public teams avoid playing top prep school teams,simple answer hold backs, it matters.

When you have teams full of 19, 20, and 21 year olds as is the case with most of the top prep schools it may matter, but when you have a few 1 year hold backs sprinkled through out Nassau/Suffolk public school lacrosse , it really dosent matter .

With Section XI, at least, the teams are only allowed 2 or 3 OOC games. It would be very difficult to schedule MD Teams. Its difficult to schedule Chaminade or SA...

When you have teams full of 19, 20, and 21 year olds as is the case with most of the top prep schools it may matter, but when you have a few 1 year hold backs sprinkled through out Nassau/Suffolk public school lacrosse , it really dosent matter .[/quote]

Doubt the Floyd coach had anything to do with the HB...
[/quote]

Does it really matter , its high school varsity lacrosse. I get the hold back argument when kids are in 6, 7th grade playing cub and one kid is 2 feet taller than another , by the time they get to high school just doesn't matter.[/quote]

It does matter when it is the only reason people talk about the team. can you say cancer. eats the team from the inside

FLG has 1. Ward Melville 2. SW 3. MT Siani 4 West Islip , i agree with the top 3 but West Islip at a 4 is crazy , I think a successful season for them will be 500. They just do not have the fire power on offense to get to the next level if they do get lucky in a couple of games it will be because of there goalie ,i think Bay Shore, Northport , Riverhead are all above them . Good Luck to everyone in the upcoming season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG has 1. Ward Melville 2. SW 3. MT Siani 4 West Islip , i agree with the top 3 but West Islip at a 4 is crazy , I think a successful season for them will be 500. They just do not have the fire power on offense to get to the next level if they do get lucky in a couple of games it will be because of there goalie ,i think Bay Shore, Northport , Riverhead are all above them . Good Luck to everyone in the upcoming season

I agree my 3 biggest issues are the placements for West Islip, Islip and SWR.

I don't think these ranking were done with a true deep dive on the teams. Seems like they reflect more of what the coaches outlined in the fall. I'm also confused how Islip and SWR will be better than some of the larger schools they are ranked over. I think the 3 A teams you mention above would be tops in league II as well.

SW, WM, MS, BS, Woge, NP, ESM, RVR, SWR, Islip, HHW, WI,

Islip and West Islip man for man are similar teams, I see Islip as the better team. Islip plays Northport (S) and Bay Shore (NL) early in the season so we will see. SWR should be ranked below ESM and maybe Hills West, Sr talent and leadership over Jr moxy.

This is all for bragging rights right now. Who will fall who will raise up, leads to some good banter among the towns.
The rankings only mean one thing, POWER POINTS. The issue will be the separation the section gives each team in power points. Leads to this question, Is there a standard separation between the rankings or is there another meeting which jerks the ranking and provides more information on power points.

11 weeks

A few moms were complaining about how some player wasn't entertaining any offers from DIII schools. The player only wanted to go to a Div 1. They said how foolish he was being and how that could ruin opportunities for kids at their school later on.

Another mom stated they weren't sure if he even wants to continue playing. To that, another mom said then how is he only entertaining only Div I teams, if he isnt sure about continuing to play he shouldn't entertain Div I schools.

WOW, ladies. Is all i can say. Mind your own business. Maybe he is looking for a certain tier school academically and maybe the DIII schools that fit the bill do not excite him. or yeah maybe the kid is to good for the schools.

which bring me to the opposite, look at the kids that just go to a "No name" DII or DIII school that are academically horrible and athletically challenged. But they are going only so everyone can say they (or their kid) played college lacrosse. I just shake my head. But its none of my business, not my kid. Just funny how the moms in the first part are the same families in the second part.

The premier series lacrosse box league at Myers Pavilion was very intertaining lots of MIAA and top public school kids playing. Very good tune up for kids to get ready for the spring season.

Any schedules released yet for Long Island Teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The premier series lacrosse box league at Myers Pavilion was very intertaining lots of MIAA and top public school kids playing. Very good tune up for kids to get ready for the spring season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The premier series lacrosse box league at Myers Pavilion was very intertaining lots of MIAA and top public school kids playing. Very good tune up for kids to get ready for the spring season.

Kids?? If Daddy is still managing the schedule...thats a red flag right there!!! The best players take charge on their own, and are setting up practices themselves. This initiative is what sets them apart. Just my two cents, from a parent of 3 stand out players.

100 percent correct there should be no involvement from any parents when the boys are at JV and HS level , it creates a bad tone among any team

The Nassau Schedules are on Sportspak Online.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

100 percent correct there should be no involvement from any parents when the boys are at JV and HS level , it creates a bad tone among any team

It's happening on my district (JV) team already; Big Mama called her Papa Bear (male friend) who is on the school board to get her middle school son moved up to the JV team this upcoming season. Several of the 8th grade kids being moved up play travel and have the stick in their hands year long, but not Big Mama's son. Some districts are just a JOKE!

there is a double edged sword on the parents involvement. Sometimes if you do not have parent involvement you dont get things done. As long as what is being done is for the good of the team or program. many booster clubs are parent driven but is a necessary evil.

There is no district that should have more than 4 maybe 5 boys brought up to JV from 8th grade. If they were really good they would have gone to Varsity.

Although i would like to hear about the districts who will be bringing boys up to varsity?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau Schedules are on Sportspak Online.

Suffolk
SectionXI.org

Nassua
https://www.leaguelineup.com/schedu...8&divisionid=758082&teamid=99999

I believe last season there were 3 8th graders playing varsity in nassau county and 2 in suffolk county

Massapequa wiil have some this year.

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

The MS 8th grader last year was a factor.... even if he is a HB..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

um - you're totally wrong, and I think a little slighted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

um - you're totally wrong, and I think a little slighted

um-if an eight grader is having an impact on your team, they're probably not a very good team.

Exactly right this is a NON FACTOR .... Look at the top 4 team in Suffolk and let me know if an 8th grader going to make an impact ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

um - you're totally wrong, and I think a little slighted

um-if an eight grader is having an impact on your team, they're probably not a very good team.

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe last season there were 3 8th graders playing varsity in nassau county and 2 in suffolk county

But were they on age! hahahaha

And the $hit you stir about were they a top four, I say who cares to that. I am sure thee were more than 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

um - you're totally wrong, and I think a little slighted

um-if an eight grader is having an impact on your team, they're probably not a very good team.

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors[/quote]

You pick the stereo typical "best player in the country" to prove your point.

Sure you can, stop being a diqk, there have been many that have made an impact on their team. Some even made the teams they play them readjust. If you don't know who they are then sorry, you don't know as much as you think.

These 8th graders are not inconsequential. Hope they don't come to bite you on the butt

Watch for West Islip they have a really strong 2020 Class , many talented players

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

Didn't WI lose their best player in the 2020 group to prep school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

In Nassau i would give CSH the nod for strongest overall 2020 class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they are a non factor , good for the boys getting experience but lets be real they will not have an impact ... it is more for the parents to pound their chest and tell people his kid is on Varsity

um - you're totally wrong, and I think a little slighted

um-if an eight grader is having an impact on your team, they're probably not a very good team.

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors

You pick the stereo typical "best player in the country" to prove your point.

Sure you can, stop being a diqk, there have been many that have made an impact on their team. Some even made the teams they play them readjust. If you don't know who they are then sorry, you don't know as much as you think.

These 8th graders are not inconsequential. Hope they don't come to bite you on the butt
[/quote]

Ok genius, since you claim there have been many and that I don't know as much as I think, go ahead and name them. Please enlighten the majority of us who now think that you're the diqk.

What are thoughts on South Side talent vs. Wantagh for 20's. Neither mentioned but both pretty good, no?

um-if an eight grader is having an impact on your team, they're probably not a very good team.[/quote]

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors[/quote]

Agreed, I can't remember an on age 8th grader, aside from Brennan O'Neill, who has had an impact on a varsity program. I'm sure there have been some over the years but they are in the minority for sure.
The pace of the game alone at this level takes some getting used to, nevermind playing against the physical size of juniors & seniors[/quote]

You pick the stereo typical "best player in the country" to prove your point.

Sure you can, stop being a diqk, there have been many that have made an impact on their team. Some even made the teams they play them readjust. If you don't know who they are then sorry, you don't know as much as you think.

These 8th graders are not inconsequential. Hope they don't come to bite you on the butt
[/quote]

Ok genius, since you claim there have been many and that I don't know as much as I think, go ahead and name them. Please enlighten the majority of us who now think that you're the diqk.[/quote]

Wait until JS gets a reads this and comes on here to claim his twin twerps are the best 8th graders in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

Didn't WI lose their best player in the 2020 group to prep school?

They have not lost a beat

West Islip will be strong with the group they have very strong defense and an extremely talented junior class that has been winning for quite some time .. WM and SW are very good but i believe people are looking past West Islip and they will surprise many teams .......

Been told by a few D1 Coaches this fall that the 2020 class as a whole is the most talented group they have seen in a few years.

Agreed West Islip has a very strong young Attack Unit not many teams will be able to guard all three

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed West Islip has a very strong young Attack Unit not many teams will be able to guard all three

Thanks for the warning Dad. Which one is your son?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

In Nassau I would put Wanatgh in that group

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed West Islip has a very strong young Attack Unit not many teams will be able to guard all three

Thanks for the warning Dad. Which one is your son?

The lefty

LEFTY is a talented kid also very strong middies, this 2020 group has been together for a long time and will be a very strong group this year for WI

HAHA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI's 2020 group must have improved drastically over the last year for that group to be considered really strong... the best 20 group in suffolk is Ward Melville, Mt Sinai, SWR, Islip. big drop to #5 after that. Nassau is Manhasset, CSH then a distant 3rd Farmingdale, Pequa, Port, GC and then it falls off a cliff in terms of talent. (publics) Obviously St. A's and Cham are stacked no matter what the year...

In Nassau I would put Wanatgh in that group

Wantagh and Southside

2020 class is Rolling

How is Syosset looking this year?

Big turnover among the Asst. Coaching Staff...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Syosset looking this year?

Big turnover among the Asst. Coaching Staff...

Is all the madness because of Igloo territory in Syosset?

WI ??????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Syosset looking this year?

Big turnover among the Asst. Coaching Staff...

Is all the madness because of Igloo territory in Syosset?

AA pulling the Coaching Strings?

It won't help much as there is not much talent in Syo these days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI ??????

Cant wait to see that WI 2020 attack line against those predominantly 2019 defenses. You may be good but your not a top attack line, maybe 7th best in A, all I see is you putting a bigger target on your players backs. There are a few poles out there that will eat him for lunch, especially being a lefty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Been told by a few D1 Coaches this fall that the 2020 class as a whole is the most talented group they have seen in a few years.

Where and when did you run into these D1 coaches?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI ??????

Cant wait to see that WI 2020 attack line against those predominantly 2019 defenses. You may be good but your not a top attack line, maybe 7th best in A, all I see is you putting a bigger target on your players backs. There are a few poles out there that will eat him for lunch, especially being a lefty.

They will be fine these boys have been playing together for years and have been competing against must of these other teams. I do think many people are under estimating this talented group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Been told by a few D1 Coaches this fall that the 2020 class as a whole is the most talented group they have seen in a few years.

Where and when did you run into these D1 coaches?

During my sons visits in Sept and Oct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI ??????

Cant wait to see that WI 2020 attack line against those predominantly 2019 defenses. You may be good but your not a top attack line, maybe 7th best in A, all I see is you putting a bigger target on your players backs. There are a few poles out there that will eat him for lunch, especially being a lefty.

They will be fine these boys have been playing together for years and have been competing against must of these other teams. I do think many people are under estimating this talented group.

first off, not as great as you say, second, the middies have to get them the ball. WI already lost one of their best middies. So you do the math. wont even be top 5

Syo down trend began last year and slide will continue back to mediocrity for years to come. Only positive they have going for them is they don't lose kids to the Catholic schools. Not a single grade/age group have they fielded a top team in the last 6 years... despite the great AA's (LOL) influence on SYO lax...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo down trend began last year and slide will continue back to mediocrity for years to come. Only positive they have going for them is they don't lose kids to the Catholic schools. Not a single grade/age group have they fielded a top team in the last 6 years... despite the great AA's (LOL) influence on SYO lax...

Tough when you have Massapequa in your way also.

Pequa has built consistent teams across age groups. A program for sure. No challenger in A for forseeable future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Been told by a few D1 Coaches this fall that the 2020 class as a whole is the most talented group they have seen in a few years.

Where and when did you run into these D1 coaches?

During my sons visits in Sept and Oct.

So during your sons visit the coach recruiting him told him they were really good. Sounds like an honest and accurate assessment. I would go with that..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI ??????

Cant wait to see that WI 2020 attack line against those predominantly 2019 defenses. You may be good but your not a top attack line, maybe 7th best in A, all I see is you putting a bigger target on your players backs. There are a few poles out there that will eat him for lunch, especially being a lefty.

They will be fine these boys have been playing together for years and have been competing against must of these other teams. I do think many people are under estimating this talented group.

I love hearing "these boys have been playing together for years" please tell us in which towns the boys have not been playing together for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI ??????

Cant wait to see that WI 2020 attack line against those predominantly 2019 defenses. You may be good but your not a top attack line, maybe 7th best in A, all I see is you putting a bigger target on your players backs. There are a few poles out there that will eat him for lunch, especially being a lefty.

They will be fine these boys have been playing together for years and have been competing against must of these other teams. I do think many people are under estimating this talented group.

I love hearing "these boys have been playing together for years" please tell us in which towns the boys have not been playing together for years.

Great Neck North

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syo down trend began last year and slide will continue back to mediocrity for years to come. Only positive they have going for them is they don't lose kids to the Catholic schools. Not a single grade/age group have they fielded a top team in the last 6 years... despite the great AA's (LOL) influence on SYO lax...

The varsity coach is an Igloo guy. They'll do very well.

Re Syosset: "The varsity coach is an Igloo guy. They'll do very well."

Um, I'm missing the correlation...

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Ok genius, since you claim there have been many and that I don't know as much as I think, go ahead and name them. Please enlighten the majority of us who now think that you're the diqk.[/quote]

Wait until JS gets a reads this and comes on here to claim his twin twerps are the best 8th graders in the country.[/quote]

Only 1 of them is really good, the other one... well he is a S.

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.

It's a racket... to miss all that and your HS experience, truly hope it works out for your son. Lax is a bordeerline vehicle as opposed to a fun endeavor for a lot of kids these days.

I hope that all of you affected by this proposal will take the time to write the council chairs. This is an important change and it's actually something that people can make a difference with.

Failing to understand the connection. What does coaching Igloo have to do with the success of a high school program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Are you serious? Many lacrosse players play football in the fall, but lacrosse is their main sport and that's what may be key in getting into the college they want to attend. When 9/1 hit and a school called and asked you to visit, then answer couldn't be "Hey, I'm playing football until December, but please hold me a spot until I can come visit". Seriously?!? It's not about how much scholarship money he's getting. It's about losing his spot at he school he covets. WOW. just WOW. Shame on you

I just went through this with my son. He was a top recruit and 9/1 was deluge of calls and emails. 5 visits crammed into one month was a bit much. 8/1 makes perfect sense to me - no need to miss school, practices, etc. if you can visit in August.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Are you serious? Many lacrosse players play football in the fall, but lacrosse is their main sport and that's what may be key in getting into the college they want to attend. When 9/1 hit and a school called and asked you to visit, then answer couldn't be "Hey, I'm playing football until December, but please hold me a spot until I can come visit". Seriously?!? It's not about how much scholarship money he's getting. It's about losing his spot at he school he covets. WOW. just WOW. Shame on you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Are you serious? Many lacrosse players play football in the fall, but lacrosse is their main sport and that's what may be key in getting into the college they want to attend. When 9/1 hit and a school called and asked you to visit, then answer couldn't be "Hey, I'm playing football until December, but please hold me a spot until I can come visit". Seriously?!? It's not about how much scholarship money he's getting. It's about losing his spot at he school he covets. WOW. just WOW. Shame on you

Shame on you! It's your dream, not his. Stop trying to make yourself believe something different. You forced him to miss football to pursue your dream.

I am not the dad, but think I know who it may be. And if it isn't him then there are a few in his shoes. And btw pursuing football is the dads dream, taking the season off was the sons idea. Although he may have helped the team it would have also been decisive to the football team. (And skipping football was probably a great move)

As much as I like the new waiting game, I don't. Thought this was America, think the whole NCAA needs to be revamped or done away with. Think letters of intents need to be reworked. Title 9 needs to be revamped, wonder why SEC schools don't have lax.

I don't like one and done rule in college, why can't Zion go straight to pros nor do I like Ncaa football players having to wait, Trevor should be a Giant..

So much for a free country. Collusion at its best I say!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not the dad, but think I know who it may be. And if it isn't him then there are a few in his shoes. And btw pursuing football is the dads dream, taking the season off was the sons idea. Although he may have helped the team it would have also been decisive to the football team. (And skipping football was probably a great move)

As much as I like the new waiting game, I don't. Thought this was America, think the whole NCAA needs to be revamped or done away with. Think letters of intents need to be reworked. Title 9 needs to be revamped, wonder why SEC schools don't have lax.

I don't like one and done rule in college, why can't Zion go straight to pros nor do I like Ncaa football players having to wait, Trevor should be a Giant..

So much for a free country. Collusion at its best I say!!!

Having a sophmore going through this, it is pretty frustrating. He has no idea where he stands from any of the prospect camps we have been to, a few of the schools where he wants to check out have camps the week of finals, so that is out, and football is an option for him to pursue in college (according to his football coach), so he doesn't know what to do this fall. The team will need him, so he won't be able to miss and they are looking to repeat as champs this season. Let us know where we stand so we can move on, or at least work on the aspects of the game to have a shot. I don't have a problem with signing being Sept 1, but the no communication is BS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not the dad, but think I know who it may be. And if it isn't him then there are a few in his shoes. And btw pursuing football is the dads dream, taking the season off was the sons idea. Although he may have helped the team it would have also been decisive to the football team. (And skipping football was probably a great move)

As much as I like the new waiting game, I don't. Thought this was America, think the whole NCAA needs to be revamped or done away with. Think letters of intents need to be reworked. Title 9 needs to be revamped, wonder why SEC schools don't have lax.

I don't like one and done rule in college, why can't Zion go straight to pros nor do I like Ncaa football players having to wait, Trevor should be a Giant..

So much for a free country. Collusion at its best I say!!!

Having a sophmore going through this, it is pretty frustrating. He has no idea where he stands from any of the prospect camps we have been to, a few of the schools where he wants to check out have camps the week of finals, so that is out, and football is an option for him to pursue in college (according to his football coach), so he doesn't know what to do this fall. The team will need him, so he won't be able to miss and they are looking to repeat as champs this season. Let us know where we stand so we can move on, or at least work on the aspects of the game to have a shot. I don't have a problem with signing being Sept 1, but the no communication is BS

I'm out of this date rang but I thought a coach at a camp can give you feedback. Why else would you go, sure to be seen and see if you like the Coach, but instruction and critiques to work on your game. I Am okay if coach doesn't say we will be keeping an eye on you. But at the same time he should be able to do just that. But, The idea that is lost on many is a camp should be used to play, learn, get better and get feedback.

If h likes you there are many ways for you to know

the WI guys looked good this past weekend many good things to come from this group , solid on both sides of the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not the dad, but think I know who it may be. And if it isn't him then there are a few in his shoes. And btw pursuing football is the dads dream, taking the season off was the sons idea. Although he may have helped the team it would have also been decisive to the football team. (And skipping football was probably a great move)

As much as I like the new waiting game, I don't. Thought this was America, think the whole NCAA needs to be revamped or done away with. Think letters of intents need to be reworked. Title 9 needs to be revamped, wonder why SEC schools don't have lax.

I don't like one and done rule in college, why can't Zion go straight to pros nor do I like Ncaa football players having to wait, Trevor should be a Giant..

So much for a free country. Collusion at its best I say!!!

Having a sophmore going through this, it is pretty frustrating. He has no idea where he stands from any of the prospect camps we have been to, a few of the schools where he wants to check out have camps the week of finals, so that is out, and football is an option for him to pursue in college (according to his football coach), so he doesn't know what to do this fall. The team will need him, so he won't be able to miss and they are looking to repeat as champs this season. Let us know where we stand so we can move on, or at least work on the aspects of the game to have a shot. I don't have a problem with signing being Sept 1, but the no communication is BS

I'm out of this date rang but I thought a coach at a camp can give you feedback. Why else would you go, sure to be seen and see if you like the Coach, but instruction and critiques to work on your game. I Am okay if coach doesn't say we will be keeping an eye on you. But at the same time he should be able to do just that. But, The idea that is lost on many is a camp should be used to play, learn, get better and get feedback.

If h likes you there are many ways for you to know

By the letter of the rules they are not allowed to communicate more than general interest to the kids Club or HS coach. The coaches are not supposed to offer their evaluation of the player to the club or HS coach and can only ask for the club or HS coache's opinion on player. It's terrible. I agree that if they don't want to allow offers until 9/1 that's fine. But he lack of communication is terrible and forces families to blindly spend money all summer attending camps that your son may be interested in but you have no idea if it's reciprocated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Are you serious? Many lacrosse players play football in the fall, but lacrosse is their main sport and that's what may be key in getting into the college they want to attend. When 9/1 hit and a school called and asked you to visit, then answer couldn't be "Hey, I'm playing football until December, but please hold me a spot until I can come visit". Seriously?!? It's not about how much scholarship money he's getting. It's about losing his spot at he school he covets. WOW. just WOW. Shame on you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by TriStateLaxer

[quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

This would be great for the players if this indeed gets passed. It would allow parents/players to scale where they stand but I can see how this could hurt club programs. But at the end of the day, it's what is best for the parents. Great post and good to see others using this platform in a positive way.

Having a current junior who had to miss Football and more importantly school because the coaches want the recruits to come when school is in session. I think changing the date to 8/1 would be great. Would be able to visit schools that are interested and would not have to miss school.[/quote

Shame on you for making your son miss the football season for recruiting. How much scholarship money are you intending him getting? Sorry, but YOU are at fault here. No way you should have forced your son to skip football. I blame this on parent no one else. You could have very easily emailed the coaches and explained the issue as so many have before. Is your son on any radars? If he is the coaches are all very understanding about it. WOW, just WOW.

Are you serious? Many lacrosse players play football in the fall, but lacrosse is their main sport and that's what may be key in getting into the college they want to attend. When 9/1 hit and a school called and asked you to visit, then answer couldn't be "Hey, I'm playing football until December, but please hold me a spot until I can come visit". Seriously?!? It's not about how much scholarship money he's getting. It's about losing his spot at he school he covets. WOW. just WOW. Shame on you

Shame on you! It's your dream, not his. Stop trying to make yourself believe something different. You forced him to miss football to pursue your dream.

What I meant was my son missed a few practices and days of school because of recruiting visits. He played football, he loves the sport. Would help if the date of 8/01 instead of 9/01 for contact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the WI guys looked good this past weekend many good things to come from this group , solid on both sides of the field

Polar Bear League at Carey finished yesterday. Some good, spirited, winter lax to keep the boys busy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the WI guys looked good this past weekend many good things to come from this group , solid on both sides of the field

Got pounded by BS...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the WI guys looked good this past weekend many good things to come from this group , solid on both sides of the field

Got pounded by BS...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the WI guys looked good this past weekend many good things to come from this group , solid on both sides of the field

Got pounded by BS...

Doubt that was from either team. Much respect for each other on those two sidelines. Just like what was said about Carey's Polar Bear League, a good opportunity to get the sticks in the boys hands and play. Thanks to all the teams that came out to play. Lets hope the weather gods stay with us during the spring.

A few things get me fired up. The way the states predetermine the sectional pairings for States. and the way Suffolk sets its regular season schedule.

States - The website below is not as updated as I would like, but some stats to highlight the travesty that Sect 8 and Sect 11 (long Island) can't play for a state title. if there is a more recent matrix please provide. Why would you never have the 2 best sections play each other for a championship is beyond me.

http://newyorksportswriters.org/reference/boys_lax_playoffs_sec_totals.shtml

SHAME ON YOU NYSPHSAA, THE PROOF IS IN THE STATS, YOU STILL SAY DISTANCE COST AND CONVENIENCE IS THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR SECTIONAL PAIRINGS, I SAY ITS YOUR SHEER LAZINESS TO CHANGE AS THE MAIN FACTOR. WHY NOT DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE IN YOUR AUGUST POSH/VACATION MEETINGS INSTEAD OF GAMBLING ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT. It seems like the only cost considerations and conveniences were found on the upstate sections. Saddle up boys you need to go Upstate to go win. Now don't get me wrong, I love they have to travel it is an invaluable experience onto itself, but imagine a Sect 8 vs Sect 11 state final on LI. There is arguably no better divisional sports rivalry in the country. Everybody but Chaminade and St. Anthony's would love that!

I know each year teams are different and you boys up in Victor and Westchester have done incredible things while in A/B/C but at the same time hotbeds are hot beds and it isnt fair that arguably the two best sections in the state will never play each other for the championship.

That rolls into my next rant, why cant Sect 11 take a look at the home and away advantages teams get over others. There is no way in heck a team should be given home field advantage in multiple years over any specific team, NO MATTER what your rank is. Yes, Sect XI has a matrix which allows them to enter the teams by ranking and the predetermined schedule pops out. But why cant the human element come into play and adjust for things like home and away. The teams have to play that day, and most of the times if varsity is playing at one school JV is at the other , so field usage isnt the issue. Whats the deal, It cant just be sheer laziness on Sect XI, can it.

You could have a senior class that has never had a home game in their entire time in high School. Wonder what the record is for the home team, pretty good huh, sure is they have "Home Field" advantage. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE OR ACCEPTABLE to never have a home game against a rival. More pathetic when it involves top 10 teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few things get me fired up. The way the states predetermine the sectional pairings for States. and the way Suffolk sets its regular season schedule.

States - The website below is not as updated as I would like, but some stats to highlight the travesty that Sect 8 and Sect 11 (long Island) can't play for a state title. if there is a more recent matrix please provide. Why would you never have the 2 best sections play each other for a championship is beyond me.

http://newyorksportswriters.org/reference/boys_lax_playoffs_sec_totals.shtml

SHAME ON YOU NYSPHSAA, THE PROOF IS IN THE STATS, YOU STILL SAY DISTANCE COST AND CONVENIENCE IS THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR SECTIONAL PAIRINGS, I SAY ITS YOUR SHEER LAZINESS TO CHANGE AS THE MAIN FACTOR. WHY NOT DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE IN YOUR AUGUST POSH/VACATION MEETINGS INSTEAD OF GAMBLING ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT. It seems like the only cost considerations and conveniences were found on the upstate sections. Saddle up boys you need to go Upstate to go win. Now don't get me wrong, I love they have to travel it is an invaluable experience onto itself, but imagine a Sect 8 vs Sect 11 state final on LI. There is arguably no better divisional sports rivalry in the country. Everybody but Chaminade and St. Anthony's would love that!

I know each year teams are different and you boys up in Victor and Westchester have done incredible things while in A/B/C but at the same time hotbeds are hot beds and it isnt fair that arguably the two best sections in the state will never play each other for the championship.

That rolls into my next rant, why cant Sect 11 take a look at the home and away advantages teams get over others. There is no way in heck a team should be given home field advantage in multiple years over any specific team, NO MATTER what your rank is. Yes, Sect XI has a matrix which allows them to enter the teams by ranking and the predetermined schedule pops out. But why cant the human element come into play and adjust for things like home and away. The teams have to play that day, and most of the times if varsity is playing at one school JV is at the other , so field usage isnt the issue. Whats the deal, It cant just be sheer laziness on Sect XI, can it.

You could have a senior class that has never had a home game in their entire time in high School. Wonder what the record is for the home team, pretty good huh, sure is they have "Home Field" advantage. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE OR ACCEPTABLE to never have a home game against a rival. More pathetic when it involves top 10 teams!

I believe they should rank all teams in the State and have a true NYS Champion. It should also include the private schools like other states do.
The new NY State Catholic Championship game will never be Chaminade vs St Anthonys because they play in the sectional and then play an upstate sectional winner - what a joke

My son played football this past fall and was recruited by many schools. They all understood and respected it was football season and Fridays and Saturdays were essentially off limits for him to travel-so we visited on Sundays. So they do in fact wait. The process has slowed down. They want to see a more finished product and not necessarily roll the dice on a hold back or some soph ahead of the curve physically.

Off topic but is anyone experiencing visiting Botc using internet Explorer or is that just my home computer? Thanks in advance

UnderArmour just came out with pre season rankings. Congrats to Strong Island placing 4 Teams in the top ten in the country. Hope they all have great seasons.

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UnderArmour just came out with pre season rankings. Congrats to Strong Island placing 4 Teams in the top ten in the country. Hope they all have great seasons.

Just like the college ranking, all you see pre season are the name brand teams.
Also ridiculous Hill, IMG, Deerfield on this list HS and PRep School are completely different.
St Anthony's and Chaminade should be over Ward Melville, and what, no Smithtown thats some bull $hit. They will run with the best ask anyone who has played them.

That just shows how many other teams should be on here that arent. Good luck to all the teams on the list and for those not on it, its not how you start but how you finish! Everyone likes a happy ending! ;-P

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Where is Syosset in the rankings?

They are definitely a contender.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Speaking of which, what's up w Jack Schirtzer transferring from SWR to Mt. Sinai?

or csh or Manhasset... GC, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

UnderArmour just came out with pre season rankings. Congrats to Strong Island placing 4 Teams in the top ten in the country. Hope they all have great seasons.

Just like the college ranking, all you see pre season are the name brand teams.
Also ridiculous Hill, IMG, Deerfield on this list HS and PRep School are completely different.
St Anthony's and Chaminade should be over Ward Melville, and what, no Smithtown thats some bull $hit. They will run with the best ask anyone who has played them.

That just shows how many other teams should be on here that arent. Good luck to all the teams on the list and for those not on it, its not how you start but how you finish! Everyone likes a happy ending! ;-P

Smithtown... "They will run with the best ask anyone who has played them." Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or csh or Manhasset... GC, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Syosset in the rankings?

They are definitely a contender.

Maybe Mt Sinai or GC.
West Islip Syossett CSH aren't even top 10 on LI anymore. Maybe next year, you will move up, but not this year.
What I see as funny is, everyone puting down the 2019 class, lbut then when a team loaded with '19 beats a predominate
20 team they say they should have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Speaking of which, what's up w Jack Schirtzer transferring from SWR to Mt. Sinai?

I guess his parents moved him into that district. I am sure that all the NYSPHAA transfer rules were followed properly

Why is WM crying on Twitter that they got ranked #5?? Boo hoo hoo. In my opinion, this ranking is way to high, They may be competitive in Suffolk County but no way are they better than the privates this year, and will probably be beat by Smithtown West. Pipe it down, your embarrassing your self with the bragging! #overrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or csh or Manhasset... GC, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Syosset in the rankings?

They are definitely a contender.

Maybe Mt Sinai or GC.
West Islip Syossett CSH aren't even top 10 on LI anymore. Maybe next year, you will move up, but not this year.
What I see as funny is, everyone puting down the 2019 class, lbut then when a team loaded with '19 beats a predominate
20 team they say they should have.

Massapequa should be on that list. Best team coming out of Nassau County!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Speaking of which, what's up w Jack Schirtzer transferring from SWR to Mt. Sinai?

I guess his parents moved him into that district. I'm sure that all the NYSPHAA transfer rules were followed properly

told you earlier SWR was not going to be as high as you had them. Let's see what the troll does now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Mount Sinai is a hamlet and census-designated place (CDP) located within the Town of Brookhaven in Suffolk County, New York,

West Islip is a hamlet and CDP located in the Town of Islip in Suffolk County, New York

WI what is it 2012?

IT is 2019 and we are ready to show all the doubters who we are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IT is 2019 and we are ready to show all the doubters who we are

Who is we, do you play Chaminade, if no, did you ever play them, and if so why don't you play them any longer?

Agree on Massapequa and also agree with the guy who said CSH may be a bit off this year but back in the conversation next year...

That being said, both have the chance to prove the doubters wrong-the chance, that's all I said. GC has the schedule to prove if its worthy of the pre-season ranking. looking forward to the season.

This forum should be renamed as the Long Island Forum

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or csh or Manhasset... GC, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Syosset in the rankings?

They are definitely a contender.

Maybe Mt Sinai or GC.
West Islip Syossett CSH aren't even top 10 on LI anymore. Maybe next year, you will move up, but not this year.
What I see as funny is, everyone puting down the 2019 class, lbut then when a team loaded with '19 beats a predominate
20 team they say they should have.

Massapequa should be on that list. Best team coming out of Nassau County!!!

Maybe but, doesn't bode well for Nassau that they aren't. Notwithstanding, why not flip the East game with the GC game. but thew real question is why even have the East game on your schedule. That game should be against West. Still, I'm not sure these pundits know the ins and outs of these teams, (may know players) but to miss both Pequa and The Bulls, you gotta question the whole thing.

Another thing, when schools on this list play each other, like any other major ranking, the losing team really doesn't drop that many slots in the polls. Then again, maybe Pequa playing GC early is a good thing.

Troll?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Mt Sinai and West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or csh or Manhasset... GC, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Syosset in the rankings?

They are definitely a contender.

Maybe Mt Sinai or GC.
West Islip Syossett CSH aren't even top 10 on LI anymore. Maybe next year, you will move up, but not this year.
What I see as funny is, everyone puting down the 2019 class, lbut then when a team loaded with '19 beats a predominate
20 team they say they should have.

Massapequa should be on that list. Best team coming out of Nassau County!!!

Very glad that Massapequa is coming out! It's long overdue. Pride!

Way overrated...

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

The

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Best Middie on Long Island @ Chaminade? Not buying that one. Good but not the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Best Middie on Long Island @ Chaminade? Not buying that one. Good but not the best

What school do you think has the best Middie

Was ian Laviano another one of those 8th grade phenoms

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Best Middie on Long Island @ Chaminade? Not buying that one. Good but not the best

What school do you think has the best Middie

Chaminade close D has two of the most underrated poles on Long Island this year. Along with a great Goalie and a strong LSM contingent their defense will be strong.

I still think the big guy is the best Middie, you wont see it because of how the team plays. I also don't think the poles are the most underrated. I think there are 2 poles out east that get that title. Your guys are not underrated they're just not rated. I think you better stay away from that pool the chlorine is getting to your head. Not the first time someone has tried to prop them up. Pole is your weakest link.

Please lets not get into the goalie. I said he was good, lets not put any more pressure on him. I will ask, who thinks KC is a good fit for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

IL player rankings and evaluations are an indicator, but nothing more than that. There are plenty of misses. As far as 2019 FOGOs, in no particular order, the SW, Chaminade and Massapequa seniors are in the top 10 in the nation. Considering 2020 FOGOS, anyone of the following can beat the others on a given day: Chaminade, St As, Brunswick (Crush), SE and WM. All are top players at their position nationally and the St A player is elite, just like the other four. Chaminade is the only school in the nation with two elite FOGOs and their defense will not be a weakness. They will be tough to beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

IL player rankings and evaluations are an indicator, but nothing more than that. There are plenty of misses. As far as 2019 FOGOs, in no particular order, the SW, Chaminade and Massapequa seniors are in the top 10 in the nation. Considering 2020 FOGOS, anyone of the following can beat the others on a given day: Chaminade, St As, Brunswick (Crush), SE and WM. All are top players at their position nationally and the St A player is elite, just like the other four. Chaminade is the only school in the nation with two elite FOGOs and their defense will not be a weakness. They will be tough to beat.

Let the games begin!!!

west islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

IL player rankings and evaluations are an indicator, but nothing more than that. There are plenty of misses. As far as 2019 FOGOs, in no particular order, the SW, Chaminade and Massapequa seniors are in the top 10 in the nation. Considering 2020 FOGOS, anyone of the following can beat the others on a given day: Chaminade, St As, Brunswick (Crush), SE and WM. All are top players at their position nationally and the St A player is elite, just like the other four. Chaminade is the only school in the nation with two elite FOGOs and their defense will not be a weakness. They will be tough to beat.

I agree, I know many players that did not get evaluated by inside lacrosse and therefore were not ranked. Those players all had or have D1 offers. Don't go totally by those rankings they miss many players. Also agree Chaminade defense will not be a weakness as long as they stay healthy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

west islip

give it a rest already... that ship has sailed. WI had a great run but they have not been a contender for a while now. Average team this year again.

in regards to contact date-- what happens currently with the top 2021-2022 kids? do they get indications from club or HS coaches about levels of interest? have to think there is much of that going on. not that there are many top caliber athletes who may face football vs lax decision, but in those cases, football can and will contact and offer- does the lax status remain in the dark until contact is allowed? interested to hear if anyone has seen how this really plays out

The Brunswick/Crush kid no longer belongs in the conversation of the elite. Merely good like many other FOGO's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Brunswick/Crush kid no longer belongs in the conversation of the elite. Merely good like many other FOGO's.

He was beat down by an unknown during that “midnight madness “ nonsense that was designed to make him look like a superstar! Love when a 91 kid needs to walk away with egg on his face!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Brunswick/Crush kid no longer belongs in the conversation of the elite. Merely good like many other FOGO's.

He was beat down by an unknown during that “midnight madness “ nonsense that was designed to make him look like a superstar! Love when a 91 kid needs to walk away with egg on his face!

Not cool dude. And this was more about LI HS lax. Not some prep school kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

IL player rankings and evaluations are an indicator, but nothing more than that. There are plenty of misses. As far as 2019 FOGOs, in no particular order, the SW, Chaminade and Massapequa seniors are in the top 10 in the nation. Considering 2020 FOGOS, anyone of the following can beat the others on a given day: Chaminade, St As, Brunswick (Crush), SE and WM. All are top players at their position nationally and the St A player is elite, just like the other four. Chaminade is the only school in the nation with two elite FOGOs and their defense will not be a weakness. They will be tough to beat.

I agree, I know many players that did not get evaluated by inside lacrosse and therefore were not ranked. Those players all had or have D1 offers. Don't go totally by those rankings they miss many players. Also agree Chaminade defense will not be a weakness as long as they stay healthy.

It was said the defense is their weakest link. Which I guess could be considered a weakness your way of putting it. Which position is worse that defense on that team. Goalie is better. Middies are better. Attack is better. Fogos are better.

This WI person has to be one of the crooked parents over the age of 40 that are responsible for the WI program to plunge off a cliff. They are ranked in the high 400’s now and yet want to be recognized as elite. It’s the parents,plain and simple. You have to burn a lot of calories to wreck a program so completely.Start by being manipulative and divisive along with no credentials or
Bona fides and see how low you can go.Again,no one under the age of 40 to blame.

Was dominated at Maverick as well...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This WI person has to be one of the crooked parents over the age of 40 that are responsible for the WI program to plunge off a cliff. They are ranked in the high 400’s now and yet want to be recognized as elite. It’s the parents,plain and simple. You have to burn a lot of calories to wreck a program so completely.Start by being manipulative and divisive along with no credentials or
Bona fides and see how low you can go.Again,no one under the age of 40 to blame.

So true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Brunswick/Crush kid no longer belongs in the conversation of the elite. Merely good like many other FOGO's.

He was beat down by an unknown during that “midnight madness “ nonsense that was designed to make him look like a superstar! Love when a 91 kid needs to walk away with egg on his face!

Hey "midnight cowboy", wow.....the hate. Kid is going to Princeton. That is elite as far as I am concerned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure I get the overrated bit, West and Pequa having arguably 2 of the best FoGo's in the NATION some good poles middies and attack (2 at each spot). I started questioning this and nationally, maybe they are, but no more or less than Ward Melville. I also think St Anthony's is the best team on the island, whether they put it together is a different thing. Best middie is at Chaminade. Best Goalie is at Ward Melville. Best Attack St Anthony's. To many good poles. Best Fogo Chaminade/Smithtown West/Massapequa. Say what you want about Ward Melville, Garden City, Massapequa and Smithtown West, I think the are all have their strengths just different. On any given day each other could beat the other. Goalie play may be the difference. To bad they all don't get the chance to play each other.

I look at these schools
Friars 2 elite attack (best Li attack), 2 elite mids, 2 elite poles (ir?), good fogo, goalie? Depth if they use it
Flyers 2 elite fogos (ir?), 2 elite mids (probably LI best mid), 2 good attack, Good Goalie, poles?? Depth if they use it
Patriots elite Goalie, 2/3 elite poles (ir?), 1 elite attack, 2 good mids, good fogo
Bulls elite fogo (ir?), 2 good attack, 2 good mids, 2 good poles, goalie (rookie of the year?)
Chiefs elite fogo, 2 good attack, 2 good mids, elite pole (ir? Li best), goalie ??

Pretty sure west FOGO ranked #66 with several others ahead of him incuding pequa at #10, not the best in the nation, and will be lucky to ever see the field in college. Would love to see those two go at it! Also would put STA fogo ahed of Cham, see him smoke that "elite" kid many times, the cham fogo is a better field player, should stick to that. Who even is WM fogo who is good? Bulls goalie?

IL player rankings and evaluations are an indicator, but nothing more than that. There are plenty of misses. As far as 2019 FOGOs, in no particular order, the SW, Chaminade and Massapequa seniors are in the top 10 in the nation. Considering 2020 FOGOS, anyone of the following can beat the others on a given day: Chaminade, St As, Brunswick (Crush), SE and WM. All are top players at their position nationally and the St A player is elite, just like the other four. Chaminade is the only school in the nation with two elite FOGOs and their defense will not be a weakness. They will be tough to beat.

I agree, I know many players that did not get evaluated by inside lacrosse and therefore were not ranked. Those players all had or have D1 offers. Don't go totally by those rankings they miss many players. Also agree Chaminade defense will not be a weakness as long as they stay healthy.

It was said the defense is their weakest link. Which I guess could be considered a weakness your way of putting it. Which position is worse that defense on that team. Goalie is better. Middies are better. Attack is better. Fogos are better.

Chammy 2019 LSM is insanely good and massively underrated. Two junior close defensemen are good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This WI person has to be one of the crooked parents over the age of 40 that are responsible for the WI program to plunge off a cliff. They are ranked in the high 400’s now and yet want to be recognized as elite. It’s the parents,plain and simple. You have to burn a lot of calories to wreck a program so completely.Start by being manipulative and divisive along with no credentials or
Bona fides and see how low you can go.Again,no one under the age of 40 to blame.

Nobody cares about WI anymore.

Good for him with Princeton. Early recruiting error that P'ton has to own...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for him with Princeton. Early recruiting error that P'ton has to own...

Go away snake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for him with Princeton. Early recruiting error that P'ton has to own...

Go away snake.

What is this about?

Dude. it worked out for him, great. Do you think he is a good now relatively as he was two years ago or have some other stars emerged in that period of time? That's all I'm saying and that is a fact.

What are his run tests like for HS teams? Done before tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude. it worked out for him, great. Do you think he is a good now relatively as he was two years ago or have some other stars emerged in that period of time? That's all I'm saying and that is a fact.

Please learn how to use the quote function.

Please stop posting gibberish.

Please go back to school and learn how to articulate your thoughts in writing.

"Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude. it worked out for him, great. Do you think he is a good now relatively as he was two years ago or have some other stars emerged in that period of time? That's all I'm saying and that is a fact.

Please learn how to use the quote function.

Please stop posting gibberish.

Please go back to school and learn how to articulate your thoughts in writing."

Ok.
Not even close to gibberish.
No. You need to improve your reading comprehension,dramatically. Message is clear, concise and on target. You know exactly what is being discussed and you chose to attempt to deflect rather than acknowledge what is common knowledge. Going 0-16 in a game at Maverick still stings I guess.

This is like freaking Johnnie Dangerously. "That is a fardigon trick question"... What the heck are you talking about.

Run test before tryouts?
It worked out for him?
WI will return to glory?
Early recruiting issue for Princeton?

Or are these some type of clues to the 80's game Password or Super Password hosted by Bert Convoy. PS, what ever happened to games like that on TV. Why not bring back Love Boat Fantasy Island or Charlie's Angels.

Okay, enough of that. We are a weekend away from the start, although most teams are blurring the lines and have started already. Aren't you glad it's cold out? Coaches how about promoting the game on LI and telling the boys to go watch local games.

Tues 2/26
7pm Hofstra hosts Stony Brook

Sat 3/2
Noon St John's hosting Michigan
Noon Stony Brook hosting Marist
3pm Hofstra Hosts Georgetown

Or maybe next Sat morning after practice the team goes together to watch either.
Sat 3/9
Noon Hofstra hosts Ohio State
Noon Stony Brook hosts Bryant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is like freaking Johnnie Dangerously. "That is a fardigon trick question"... What the heck are you talking about.

Run test before tryouts?
It worked out for him?
WI will return to glory?
Early recruiting issue for Princeton?

Or are these some type of clues to the 80's game Password or Super Password hosted by Bert Convoy. PS, what ever happened to games like that on TV. Why not bring back Love Boat Fantasy Island or Charlie's Angels.

Okay, enough of that. We are a weekend away from the start, although most teams are blurring the lines and have started already. Aren't you glad it's cold out? Coaches how about promoting the game on LI and telling the boys to go watch local games.

Tues 2/26
7pm Hofstra hosts Stony Brook

Sat 3/2
Noon St John's hosting Michigan
Noon Stony Brook hosting Marist
3pm Hofstra Hosts Georgetown

Or maybe next Sat morning after practice the team goes together to watch either.
Sat 3/9
Noon Hofstra hosts Ohio State
Noon Stony Brook hosts Bryant

Next week also includes CW Post vs. Merrimack
Both teams willbe D1 next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is like freaking Johnnie Dangerously. "That is a fardigon trick question"... What the heck are you talking about.

Run test before tryouts?
It worked out for him?
WI will return to glory?
Early recruiting issue for Princeton?

Or are these some type of clues to the 80's game Password or Super Password hosted by Bert Convoy. PS, what ever happened to games like that on TV. Why not bring back Love Boat Fantasy Island or Charlie's Angels.

Okay, enough of that. We are a weekend away from the start, although most teams are blurring the lines and have started already. Aren't you glad it's cold out? Coaches how about promoting the game on LI and telling the boys to go watch local games.

Tues 2/26
7pm Hofstra hosts Stony Brook

Sat 3/2
Noon St John's hosting Michigan
Noon Stony Brook hosting Marist
3pm Hofstra Hosts Georgetown

Or maybe next Sat morning after practice the team goes together to watch either.
Sat 3/9
Noon Hofstra hosts Ohio State
Noon Stony Brook hosts Bryant

Next week also includes CW Post vs. Merrimack
Both teams willbe D1 next year.

I thought about adding CW Post's games; this weekends game is against Pace (relatively close but not D1)
and next weeks as you say.

OHHHH, I get the above too. Why do people have to be BadPerson, not cool. and if he wasnt any good the coaches will decommitt. Its only a verbal. If you are right time will tell, if wrong and he's admitted sour grapes and BadPerson move on you.

Next week will be start to another great season in Long Island lacrosse , Congratulations to Ward Melville for IL cover story , Good Luck to all the boys this season ... Lets Go Lions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is like freaking Johnnie Dangerously. "That is a fardigon trick question"... What the heck are you talking about.

Run test before tryouts?
It worked out for him?
WI will return to glory?
Early recruiting issue for Princeton?

Or are these some type of clues to the 80's game Password or Super Password hosted by Bert Convoy. PS, what ever happened to games like that on TV. Why not bring back Love Boat Fantasy Island or Charlie's Angels.

Okay, enough of that. We are a weekend away from the start, although most teams are blurring the lines and have started already. Aren't you glad it's cold out? Coaches how about promoting the game on LI and telling the boys to go watch local games.

Tues 2/26
7pm Hofstra hosts Stony Brook

Sat 3/2
Noon St John's hosting Michigan
Noon Stony Brook hosting Marist
3pm Hofstra Hosts Georgetown

Or maybe next Sat morning after practice the team goes together to watch either.
Sat 3/9
Noon Hofstra hosts Ohio State
Noon Stony Brook hosts Bryant

Next week also includes CW Post vs. Merrimack
Both teams willbe D1 next year.

I thought about adding CW Post's games; this weekends game is against Pace (relatively close but not D1)
and next weeks as you say.

OHHHH, I get the above too. Why do people have to be BadPerson, not cool. and if he wasnt any good the coaches will decommitt. Its only a verbal. If you are right time will tell, if wrong and he's admitted sour grapes and BadPerson move on you.

Speak English

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

Thus far, the HS Boys games have been limited to teams in the South (e.g. TX, FL, etc.) and West (e.g. CA, AZ, etc.). Anyway, with this said, assuming snow will be shoveled... Georgetown Prep plays St. Mary's Annapolis today. The party is starting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

Really? Not to sure about that. How many of you cringed at the grammar and other errors. If truly digital media, why not correct the many blatant mistakes. Not being an english snob here, I've praise the many shows they've done, but this, with the hype, could and should have had a better final product.

Now about the content. Having West Islip and Shoreham as high as they are, along with Commack ahead of Riverhead HHH and ESM, is just so off point. I get WI and SWR they had pedigree but commack???

FLG is not far off with WI they are right on , you have no idea what you are talking about because they have one of the best 2020 classes around . Just wait and watch wins . Good Luck too all

[quote=Anonymous]FLG is not far off with WI they are right on , you have no idea what you are talking about because they have one of the best 2020 classes around . Just wait and watch wins . Good Luck too all[/quote”

Commack 2020 boys are strong as well. They will surpise many.

What's the prediction for Sachem North/East? Any good players in the pipe line moving up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the prediction for Sachem North/East? Any good players in the pipe line moving up?

who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG is not far off with WI they are right on , you have no idea what you are talking about because they have one of the best 2020 classes around . Just wait and watch wins . Good Luck too all[/quote”

Commack 2020 boys are strong as well. They will surpise many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's the prediction for Sachem North/East? Any good players in the pipe line moving up?

who cares

I Care.

Lions, maybe if you had your old coach to temper that 2020 roar (or maybe he saw this coming??). Me, I think your 2020 bravado will be your demise. Instead of letting it happen organically you boast their supposed prowess. Really going to be humbling when you they don't start to produce this year. Feel sorry for those '19/'21 dads that have to put up with you. Nice Scrimmages with Syosset and CSH but both, like you, are noted to be better next year. Ask Syosset what scrimmages mean anyway.

Curious, why did the Commack / West Islip change from the original schedule game date of 3/22. I get that was a tough game for either team to open with, but to replace it with Floyd?. That ESM game will be a shock for you. Will it show who the better goalie is? I will say there will be some poles to watch on either side in this game. That ESM defense though, woo ha - giddy up boys, they are going to beat up that '20 attack. You think we will see some penalties? But it wont count towards the div. Your early game with Bay Shore, mid season Riverhead and the game towards the end with Northport should have some eyes on them. I will say you will have the ability to put teams on the map or take them off. Question for you, if you dont finish in the top 3 will this season be disappointing.

Commack, nothing is guaranteed. I will say East Islip and Mt Sinai will prep you nicely, but we will see how it all shakes out after the early games with Riverhead and Northport. I don't think it will be favorable, split at best. Interested in that Smithtown East game (big early game). at least you have Middle Country and then Huntington at home to end the season for Sr day. That Sachem North game could be more interesting than your West Islip or Bay Shore games.

I think both WI and Commack could have issues with Sachem's. At least West Islip gets East/North on their turf, Commack is not as lucky and travels to East/North. Sachems' will give a lot of teams tough games, especially at home, I do think Sachem will come up short but won't be surprised to see them win. North could be fun to follow.

At the end of the season, Its all a wash anyway as Commack and West Islip should make the playoffs anywhere from 5-8. 1 Sachem should as well. We'll see, 'til then, have fun shoveling for practice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

Not who you're responding to, but I agree, and it has nothing to do with the role my son plays. Did you think it was a good piece of journalism? I used to love the way sports journalist used to write. This, not so much. I think it was the coaches for the team write-ups. Did the individual team coaches do their own write ups? To much inconsistency across the teams notes. Not the same writing style.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG is not far off with WI they are right on , you have no idea what you are talking about because they have one of the best 2020 classes around . Just wait and watch wins . Good Luck too all

Looks like there are lots of key returning players for West Islip. They will be a deep unit, could help in the later part of the season, as long as no one turns green and everyone stays happy with their roles.

For $2.99 its far and away the best, most in depth summary out there. Ok haters, where else are you going to find a preview like that???? Some people just have to always complain about something. Give it a break. Not looking for a Pulitzer literary piece but some broad color on high school lax, it works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

OK there, FLG dad...

Oh yeah, I forgot Newsday does a 1 page piece on all of LI boys lacrosse. So pissed someone else has encroached on their monopoly. I hope the turtles get some good press from some outlet this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

No, sorry not the case. But nonetheless it was garbage. But if you feel it was well written and accurate, well I guess your education level is in the same place your head is, the crapper.

Digital Magazine not set up for android phones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

No, sorry not the case. But nonetheless it was garbage. But if you feel it was well written and accurate, well I guess your education level is in the same place your head is, the crapper.

Come on did you write this on the crapper?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

No, sorry not the case. But nonetheless it was garbage. But if you feel it was well written and accurate, well I guess your education level is in the same place your head is, the crapper.

Come on did you write this on the crapper?

Didn't think it was garbage, it did have misspelled names for some of the players. If you disagree with FLG rankings thats fine it was FLGs opinion. Info on impact players for teams I thought was pretty accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NICE job done by FLG with the digital magazine ......

OK there FLG dad.

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes.

I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going

No, sorry not the case. But nonetheless it was garbage. But if you feel it was well written and accurate, well I guess your education level is in the same place your head is, the crapper.

Come on did you write this on the crapper?

That is where the best thinking happens

That "digital magazine" was absolute garbage. Filled with inaccuracies and grammatical mistakes. [/quote]
I guess your son did not get a write up , go complain in the stands now why your son is not on the field. It is not about you it is about the kids and the kids love it , so great job FLG keep it going [/quote]

No, sorry not the case. But nonetheless it was garbage. But if you feel it was well written and accurate, well I guess your education level is in the same place your head is, the crapper.[/quote]

Come on did you write this on the crapper?
[/quote]

Didn't think it was garbage, it did have misspelled names for some of the players. If you disagree with FLG rankings thats fine it was FLGs opinion. Info on impact players for teams I thought was pretty accurate.[/quote]

It was a fun read, yes there were mispellings and some sentences that were questionable. But there is an audiance for it and we will take all we can. Stuff like this is crack for both the families and players. Could have been written better and had it been better it would have added a bit more credibility. But thats okay its just HS sports and something for them to look back on. (see what I did there)

As for the team ranking, they explained last night, they reached out to the coaches of each Section (8 & 11), with a poll of how they would rank the teams, then compiled the results and came up with the rankings. As far as the individual team write ups, personally I dont think they scouted every last player. I think, they do kow many and since they know most of the coaches (or most of the coaches know them and what they are doing), they got the info from the coaches about the players and learned who they may not've already known about. [/quote]

Season starting soon anyway so the proof will be in the pudding, lets hope there is no snow in the forecast. Although there is Rain forecasted for 3/15 and with 7 NL games for Suffolk and 2 NL for Nassau. QUESTION, why not have the games on 3/16 and open up on a Saturday. But its a whole week away who knows what will happen.

Anyway like last year, rankings mean nothing until 4/1

Anyway like last year, rankings mean nothing until 4/1[/quote]

Rankings mean nothing until the season is over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyway like last year, rankings mean nothing until 4/1

Rankings mean nothing until the season is over.[/quote]

I get what your sayin', i just don't subscribe to that point of view, 'cause when its over - its over! Its in the journey not the destination!

That said, 4/1 and I'll add 5/1 are huge dates to figure out how it may unfold. Because an early loss to a top team may not define many teams season's. If you get to the top 11, you can work for a second shot.

1st Part of season (test) - 4/1
Mid Season (check) 4/16
Playoff (prep) - 5/1-5/7

Only one team can come out on top, for the rest it is the cycle of rinse and repeat!

Thanks for clearing that up.

Any other preview publications for long Island Lax this season? Please post so we can compare the two different publications. Looking forward to the season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any other preview publications for long Island Lax this season? Please post so we can compare the two different publications. Looking forward to the season.

I believe that Newsday may run something but not as detailed as the LILJ.

good luck in all the scrimmages today

Farmingdale v Chaminade today, any other scrimmages happening?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale v Chaminade today, any other scrimmages happening?

CSH vs Port

Originally Posted by Anonymous

good luck in all the scrimmages today

Are parents permitted to attend scrimmages?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

good luck in all the scrimmages today

Are parents permitted to attend scrimmages?

Only the cool ones

Public schools I would say yes...

Some good scrimmages today how'd ya'll do

Babylon v Cford
BShore v Wantagh
Mack v HHHW
HHHE v ESM
Hunt v Hbrflds
Islip V Nport
Mt Sin v Rvrhd
Syo v W Islip
SWR v Ward Melville
Dalers v Chammy
CSH v Port

Sorry, Suffolk's site gives scrimmages Nassau 's doesn't fill in any good scrimmages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale v Chaminade today, any other scrimmages happening?

inquiring minds want to know how this went?

St A's V GC ??

WEST ISLIP vs SYO ???? how did that go

How'd Huntington vs. Harborfields go?

Will someone just brag about their son already????????????

lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How'd Huntington vs. Harborfields go?

Pretty even from what I heard. Got a little chippy towards the end

SYO dominated them

port got thumped by csh starters... made it respectable in 2nd half though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

port got thumped by csh starters... made it respectable in 2nd half though.

Wantaugh, Smithtown East and Chaminade Scrimmage on Saturday

Thoughts on ESM

Esm?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

port got thumped by csh starters... made it respectable in 2nd half though.

Wantaugh, Smithtown East and Chaminade Scrimmage on Saturday

Annual scrimmage v Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Esm?

Good Defensive Players

i thought ESM only had girls lacrosse...

WI has one of the best attack groups in all of Suffolk County ....

Scrimmage in Northport tomorrow: Harborfields, Walt Whitman, Northport, HHH West, Kings Park, ESM, Commack, Lindenhurst, Elwood & Huntington tomorrow @ Veterans Park. Some good matchups, will be interesting.

Question what do the sections do when a coach yells at a player from the other team (and gets in there face). School should at least suspend the for some time.

Can an on field player call a time out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question what do the sections do when a coach yells at a player from the other team (and gets in there face). School should at least suspend the for some time.

Get over it.

How are the teams looking at the scrimmages today? Any surprises?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question what do the sections do when a coach yells at a player from the other team (and gets in there face). School should at least suspend the for some time.

Get over it.

It becomes a question between the coaches. No coach should ever yell at another team's players. Depends how or why.

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Tough to even judge the day. Some teams played their starters the whole game while others had everyone get in. Lots of dropped balls and missed passes, and blown opportunities. But there are a ton of new players this year on many of these teams trying to figure out where they fit. The West Coach played his first,second and third players so I don’t think he was trying to win. They have new pieces that they needed to mesh in and they looked better as the day went.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

How did GC do against St A’s earlier this week?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Thanks for clearing that up. Next time just use SW so there's no confusion. Thought you meant Hills West. No shame in losing to GC, they are deep at every position every year. Could move up to A and give WM a run for the LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Tough to even judge the day. Some teams played their starters the whole game while others had everyone get in. Lots of dropped balls and missed passes, and blown opportunities. But there are a ton of new players this year on many of these teams trying to figure out where they fit. The West Coach played his first,second and third players so I don’t think he was trying to win. They have new pieces that they needed to mesh in and they looked better as the day went.

Was every team like this or did anyone look pretty solid from what you saw? Just curious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

How did GC do against St A’s earlier this week?

not well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Thanks for clearing that up. Next time just use SW so there's no confusion. Thought you meant Hills West. No shame in losing to GC, they are deep at every position every year. Could move up to A and give WM a run for the LIC

What are you babbling about SW and Hills??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Thanks for clearing that up. Next time just use SW so there's no confusion. Thought you meant Hills West. No shame in losing to GC, they are deep at every position every year. Could move up to A and give WM a run for the LIC

What are you babbling about SW and Hills??

Can you read?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Thanks for clearing that up. Next time just use SW so there's no confusion. Thought you meant Hills West. No shame in losing to GC, they are deep at every position every year. Could move up to A and give WM a run for the LIC

What are you babbling about SW and Hills??

Can you read?

I think they are talking about GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

Garden city fogo came up strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can an on field player call a time out?

Yes a on field player can call a time out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

Garden city fogo came up strong

He was able to win some ground balls and had some wing help, but he was less than 50%. Regardless of what was reported to Newsday. SW Fogo was clearly better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Tough to even judge the day. Some teams played their starters the whole game while others had everyone get in. Lots of dropped balls and missed passes, and blown opportunities. But there are a ton of new players this year on many of these teams trying to figure out where they fit. The West Coach played his first,second and third players so I don’t think he was trying to win. They have new pieces that they needed to mesh in and they looked better as the day went.

Was every team like this or did anyone look pretty solid from what you saw? Just curious

My kid plays for Hills West so I didn’t see every game. Our boys were sloppy early on but played much better against Northport. We have a bunch of new starters and the coaches are trying to figure out where everyone works best. Harborfields looked really good on offense and their defense held strong. Great back and forth game with Northport and both teams seemed to be putting players in spots to see how they did. We didn’t play ESM or COMMACK but they looked ok without knowing the score and the short time I watched. Th games were one game break so you really couldn’t watch them all with a kid playing. It was a great day, well run and was well worth it. A great way to iron out the kinks before the first game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

Garden city fogo came up strong

He was able to win some ground balls and had some wing help, but he was less than 50%. Regardless of what was reported to Newsday. SW Fogo was clearly better.

GC fogo went 60% at the X and won the game for them. Stop whining a deal with it. Everyone has a bad day.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Tough to even judge the day. Some teams played their starters the whole game while others had everyone get in. Lots of dropped balls and missed passes, and blown opportunities. But there are a ton of new players this year on many of these teams trying to figure out where they fit. The West Coach played his first,second and third players so I don’t think he was trying to win. They have new pieces that they needed to mesh in and they looked better as the day went.

Was every team like this or did anyone look pretty solid from what you saw? Just curious

My kid plays for Hills West so I didn’t see every game. Our boys were sloppy early on but played much better against Northport. We have a bunch of new starters and the coaches are trying to figure out where everyone works best. Harborfields looked really good on offense and their defense held strong. Great back and forth game with Northport and both teams seemed to be putting players in spots to see how they did. We didn’t play ESM or COMMACK but they looked ok without knowing the score and the short time I watched. Th games were one game break so you really couldn’t watch them all with a kid playing. It was a great day, well run and was well worth it. A great way to iron out the kinks before the first game.

Agreed, good day for a great cause. Nice tune up for the season. Most teams that I saw were rotating a lot of players in order to figure stuff out. Good luck to everyone this week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

Garden city fogo came up strong

He was able to win some ground balls and had some wing help, but he was less than 50%. Regardless of what was reported to Newsday. SW Fogo was clearly better.

Game is still up on Varsity. Count for yourself this is what I have. They were both really good and competitive. T

SW won the clamp and dictated the ball many times. But the GC wing/pole was the difference. GC fogo knew he was beat and played D.

23 faces
F/O
1st SW
2nd GC Push but should have been push on GC
3rd SW Push GC
4th GC clean wing
5th SW clean to himself

2nd Qtr
6th SW clean to himself with assist
7th GC tremendous wing play
8th GC to himself great face
9th GC couldn't convert after great wing play (SW ultimately gained possesion)

Half
10th GC Procedure on SW GC gains possesion
11th SW wins wing play and passes for quick bing bam Boom Score
12th GC Face goes into SW offensive zone - good battle and GC comes down for their own bing bam Boom TYK BTB
13th SW clean to wing
14th GC Procedure (but SW should have been awarded the possesion)
15th GC great wing-span
16th GC (procedure)
17th SW (Procedure)
18th SW win to himself
19th SW wins it but losses it before he gets on zone
20th not sure how to scor ethe opening face of 4th qtr. did GC have posession and SW checked it away?
21st GC win
22nd stailmate - not sure why there was a do-over
23rd GC gained possesion on wing play
24th GC

SW 9/24 = 37.5%

GC 13/24 = 54.1%

Stailmate - 4

Oh boy SW daddy, you’re in for a tough wake up call come college. Nobody cares how you win/lose. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss.. Right now you’re in the losers bracket. But the kid is good and I’m sure will bounce back. But this time GC got the best of him. Stats don’t lie, call it a day. And for the record GC went 61% at the X against a quality opponent, we’ll take it! Go GC!

GC is not all that deep.....you will see next year. 2020 class is a disaster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West coach starts where he finished last year, blows another game for team. You call a time out!

Relax, long season ahead. It was a pre-season fundraiser for cancer. Scores weren't even being kept on the scoreboard, only time. Didn't see a timeout taken by either team in the three games that we played. Obviously wasn't an option

Sorry to break it to you but it was a real game with a real score, and real stats added to the record book. GC beat SW in every position. Better athletes, better coached team won

Slow your roll with your better stuff. If you were better you would have not needed OT. Shouldnt have come to that, bet your coach would have called a TO when it mattered. Oh wait, he did. Funny how that works out.

GC won the 3rd qtr and that won them the game (that and the SW coach not calling TO in regulation). For a team looking to go undefeated, today was a dagger or springboard; anyone could win, unfortunately there is only one winner, the only real implications were national rankings. For GC it matters where you are in June, for SW it's May.

Suffolk teams need to win these non league games and use them to climb the rankings. SW had their shot and came up short. GC has 8 non league games, had they lost they'd have 7 more opportunities. Suffolk has got to do something about the limited 2 non league game restrictions.

No, Suffolk teams need to win their league games, win the county championship, win the LIC and go on to win the State Championship. The non-league games mean nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh boy SW daddy, you’re in for a tough wake up call come college. Nobody cares how you win/lose. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss.. Right now you’re in the losers bracket. But the kid is good and I’m sure will bounce back. But this time GC got the best of him. Stats don’t lie, call it a day. And for the record GC went 61% at the X against a quality opponent, we’ll take it! Go GC!

Hey relax I'm on your side, the boys did well but the film doesn't lie. I don't care about "on the record" or the paper we all know that's discretionary at best. The list above is from the game. Pick what suits you best, but 13 of 23 is not 60%. 56.5%. SW Kid isn't going to have a wake up call in college, saying that just minimized the wing play. GC fogo played a great game.

Saturday's going to be a another battle!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is not all that deep.....you will see next year. 2020 class is a disaster.

What a ridiculous thing to write at the start of 2019 season.

Some Li games this week.

Ill get to the upstate games/scrimmages later. Please add any game you think will be big.

Mon
Suf
Sayvile v Kings P
Islip v Quot

Scrimmages to note
Ward Melville v Mount
HHHE v SWR

Tues
Nas
SSide v Syo
LB vs Port

Suf
Mack v Mount
Wogue v STown E
EI v BShore

Nas v Suf
Wantagh v STown W

Weds
Nas
Dalers v Lnbrk

Suf
Wslip v ESM
Kellenberg v HHHE

Scrimmage - St A v Ward Melville

Thur
Nas
Man'set v Pequa
CSH v Syo
Clhoun v Bpage
Port v Wantagh

Suf
HHHW v Mt Sinai
EI v Wogue

Fri
Nas
Lynbrk v Carey

Suf
HHHE v STown W
Pat-Med v Floyd (this game could mean something everything)
Middle C v Lindy (Huge game early for these clubs, still dont know why they combo schools)
Rhead v Nport (WOW, big Suffolk game)

Sat
Pequa v GC
Kellenberg v Man'set

Nas v Suf
Dalers v Wslip
Nport v Sside

Good scrimmages between West Islip, CSH and Massapequa. East Islip was in over their heads but I'm sure a good day for them as well.

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Game is still up on Varsity. Count for yourself this is what I have. They were both really good and competitive. T

SW won the clamp and dictated the ball many times. But the GC wing/pole was the difference. GC fogo knew he was beat and played D.

23 faces
F/O
1st SW
2nd GC Push but should have been push on GC
3rd SW Push GC
4th GC clean wing
5th SW clean to himself

2nd Qtr
6th SW clean to himself with assist
7th GC tremendous wing play
8th GC to himself great face
9th GC couldn't convert after great wing play (SW ultimately gained possesion)

Half
10th GC Procedure on SW GC gains possesion
11th SW wins wing play and passes for quick bing bam Boom Score
12th GC Face goes into SW offensive zone - good battle and GC comes down for their own bing bam Boom TYK BTB
13th SW clean to wing
14th GC Procedure (but SW should have been awarded the possesion)
15th GC great wing-span
16th GC (procedure)
17th SW (Procedure)
18th SW win to himself
19th SW wins it but losses it before he gets on zone
20th not sure how to scor ethe opening face of 4th qtr. did GC have posession and SW checked it away?
21st GC win
22nd stailmate - not sure why there was a do-over
23rd GC gained possesion on wing play
24th GC

SW 9/24 = 37.5%

GC 13/24 = 54.1%

Stailmate - 4
[/quote]

Dude,

You need a hobby.

Ur stressing your kid out. He doesn't want to relive every face off you recorded on video.

Let him have some fun - or he will burn out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game is still up on Varsity. Count for yourself this is what I have. They were both really good and competitive. T

SW won the clamp and dictated the ball many times. But the GC wing/pole was the difference. GC fogo knew he was beat and played D.

23 faces
F/O
1st SW
2nd GC Push but should have been push on GC
3rd SW Push GC
4th GC clean wing
5th SW clean to himself

2nd Qtr
6th SW clean to himself with assist
7th GC tremendous wing play
8th GC to himself great face
9th GC couldn't convert after great wing play (SW ultimately gained possession)

Half
10th GC Procedure on SW GC gains possession
11th SW wins wing play and passes for quick bing bam Boom Score
12th GC Face goes into SW offensive zone - good battle and GC comes down for their own bing bam Boom TYK BTB
13th SW clean to wing
14th GC Procedure (but SW should have been awarded the possession)
15th GC great wing-span
16th GC (procedure)
17th SW (Procedure)
18th SW win to himself
19th SW wins it but losses it before he gets on zone
20th not sure how to score the opening face of the 4th qtr. did GC have possession and SW checked it away?
21st GC win
22nd stailmate - not sure why there was a do-over
23rd GC gained possession on wing play
24th GC

SW 9/24 = 37.5%

GC 13/24 = 54.1%

Stailmate - 4
[/quote]

Dude,

You need a hobby.

Ur stressing your kid out. He doesn't want to relive every face off you recorded on video.

Let him have some fun - or he will burn out.

Who the heck cares Dude! This guy needs more than a hobby. Some people are just sick! I hear parents talking about some H.S. lacrosse kids like they are Chicks. Some parents are sick! I can't wait until this lacrosse stuff is over... [/quote]

I think IL needs to rewrite there article on ward Melville after the beat down they received yesterday from Mt Sinia

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think IL needs to rewrite there article on ward Melville after the beat down they received yesterday from Mt Sinia

What was the score? Not up on Sect XI or Newsday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think IL needs to rewrite there article on ward Melville after the beat down they received yesterday from Mt Sinia

What was the score? Not up on Sect XI or Newsday

It was a scrimmage, but it was a lot to a little . 12-4 maybe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think IL needs to rewrite there article on ward Melville after the beat down they received yesterday from Mt Sinia

What was the score? Not up on Sect XI or Newsday

It was a scrimmage, but it was a lot to a little . 12-4 maybe?

Mt Sinai crushed Walt Whitman 15-5, and stopped scoring at 15 at the half. They are a powerhouse this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think IL needs to rewrite there article on ward Melville after the beat down they received yesterday from Mt Sinia

What was the score? Not up on Sect XI or Newsday

It was a scrimmage, but it was a lot to a little . 12-4 maybe?

Mt Sinai crushed Walt Whitman 15-5, and stopped scoring at 15 at the half. They are a powerhouse this year.

Oh boy, this is going to be a long year if we have to listen to Sinai propaganda already because the "won" a scrimmage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is not all that deep.....you will see next year. 2020 class is a disaster.

What a ridiculous thing to write at the start of 2019 season.

Don't have to wait for next year......only two juniors go on the field this year.

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

The Mount is not just a C school in lax you and I both know it. The pick up of the pole is huge. The play of the HB is big. your stud pole the boys that have plan very competitive club lax makes you a top team on LI.

Lots of people knew you would be huge its not a surprise. The sad thing is becasue you are C you will have 2-3 games this year at best (which you will still probably win) the rest will be road kill. Good luck stay humble.

PS ask Syosset about scrimmages, they've been saying for years they mean nothing.

Here is my rant for the week. Nice an early season rankings are great and some say meaningless but when it does matters later you know where Im coming from.

I know early in the season, but power points are already messed up. How can a team an 0-2 team be ahead of a team 1-0.

Do power points matter across the Divs?
Harborfields (1-0, Whitman) and Kings Park should be ranked over BBBP. (0-2, Riverhead and Sachem North) and East Islip (0-2),
Sachem North (1-0) should be over Connetquot (0-1)
and hey he's a shout out to Middle Country (although I hate combined schools, where is a brick and mortar MC anyways) but why isn't Middle Country (2-0) over Whitman (0-2) or Floyd (0-1)

Now points wise why is
Islip 120 and Bay Shore at 119
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Riverhead 114
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Sachem North 112
Bay Shore just beat East Islip and they were only 1 point ahead of them.

Don't get me started with Smithtown West. yes, you lost to a non conference powerhouse but you lost, you shouldn't start as the #1. Here again is where the points should mean something. Mt Sinia with only 123, you know when Ward Melville comes into the ranking they will be #1 which means they would be more than 122, but as the scrimmage proved should not be ranked higher PP than Mt Sinai.

Now a true actuary will ask why would Ward Melville even come in high with points when their wins would only be against Sachem East and Whitman??

This goes to show many of the preseason ranking was BS and political. And please don't tell me it only matters at the end. I know when it matters, but power points is what gets you into the playoffs. It starts to matter now. In 10 days, next Saturday, 25% of the season is over. Don't blink!

Has Sect Xi made the right move and switch back to Stony Brook for the playoffs. Islip is okay but not the venue the Suffolk County championships should be at. St Joe's is better!!!!

It worked out well for them (Islip) last year, experiment failed for everyone else, now get it back to a college campus. get it back to Stony Brook.

There could be a clinic early in the day (on the grounds) for MS kids and then they can come watch the games.

Who is in charge of that

Look out for West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my rant for the week. Nice an early season rankings are great and some say meaningless but when it does matters later you know where Im coming from.

I know early in the season, but power points are already messed up. How can a team an 0-2 team be ahead of a team 1-0.

Do power points matter across the Divs?
Harborfields (1-0, Whitman) and Kings Park should be ranked over BBBP. (0-2, Riverhead and Sachem North) and East Islip (0-2),
Sachem North (1-0) should be over Connetquot (0-1)
and hey he's a shout out to Middle Country (although I hate combined schools, where is a brick and mortar MC anyways) but why isn't Middle Country (2-0) over Whitman (0-2) or Floyd (0-1)

Now points wise why is
Islip 120 and Bay Shore at 119
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Riverhead 114
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Sachem North 112
Bay Shore just beat East Islip and they were only 1 point ahead of them.

Don't get me started with Smithtown West. yes, you lost to a non conference powerhouse but you lost, you shouldn't start as the #1. Here again is where the points should mean something. Mt Sinia with only 123, you know when Ward Melville comes into the ranking they will be #1 which means they would be more than 122, but as the scrimmage proved should not be ranked higher PP than Mt Sinai.

Now a true actuary will ask why would Ward Melville even come in high with points when their wins would only be against Sachem East and Whitman??

This goes to show many of the preseason ranking was BS and political. And please don't tell me it only matters at the end. I know when it matters, but power points is what gets you into the playoffs. It starts to matter now. In 10 days, next Saturday, 25% of the season is over. Don't blink!

OK. I'm gonna help this guy out, the current rankings you see on Section XI have nothing to do with the games played so far. They are the preseason ranking points added to the teams. Preseason points help get rid of sandbagging teams. Plus only division games count to these points. So, Riverhead beating BBP does 0 for Riverhead. BBP is not ahead of Riverhead, they are not even in the same division. BBP has more points becasue they were a higher preseason seed, in their division, then Sachem and Riverhead, in their respective division. thats it!!!! No games played have had an effect on rankings or points. If you notice, some teams are not even listed, because they have not had games yet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look out for West Islip

Why

NON League games Do Not figure in to power points. League games only

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my rant for the week. Nice an early season rankings are great and some say meaningless but when it does matters later you know where Im coming from.

I know early in the season, but power points are already messed up. How can a team an 0-2 team be ahead of a team 1-0.

Do power points matter across the Divs?
Harborfields (1-0, Whitman) and Kings Park should be ranked over BBBP. (0-2, Riverhead and Sachem North) and East Islip (0-2),
Sachem North (1-0) should be over Connetquot (0-1)
and hey he's a shout out to Middle Country (although I hate combined schools, where is a brick and mortar MC anyways) but why isn't Middle Country (2-0) over Whitman (0-2) or Floyd (0-1)

Now points wise why is
Islip 120 and Bay Shore at 119
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Riverhead 114
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Sachem North 112
Bay Shore just beat East Islip and they were only 1 point ahead of them.

Don't get me started with Smithtown West. yes, you lost to a non conference powerhouse but you lost, you shouldn't start as the #1. Here again is where the points should mean something. Mt Sinia with only 123, you know when Ward Melville comes into the ranking they will be #1 which means they would be more than 122, but as the scrimmage proved should not be ranked higher PP than Mt Sinai.

Now a true actuary will ask why would Ward Melville even come in high with points when their wins would only be against Sachem East and Whitman??

This goes to show many of the preseason ranking was BS and political. And please don't tell me it only matters at the end. I know when it matters, but power points is what gets you into the playoffs. It starts to matter now. In 10 days, next Saturday, 25% of the season is over. Don't blink!

OK. I'm gonna help this guy out, the current rankings you see on Section XI have nothing to do with the games played so far. They are the preseason ranking points added to the teams. Preseason points help get rid of sandbagging teams. Plus only division games count to these points. So, Riverhead beating BBP does 0 for Riverhead. BBP is not ahead of Riverhead, they are not even in the same division. BBP has more points becasue they were a higher preseason seed, in their division, then Sachem and Riverhead, in their respective division. thats it!!!! No games played have had an effect on rankings or points. If you notice, some teams are not even listed, because they have not had games yet

Exactly the point. Preseason ranking are bull. But I'll entertain this further. If as you say, games played doesn't have an impact, because they are non league, then why not list teams that havnt played. There should be some relationship between the divisions and the rankings

"Look out for West Islip"

Saw them live last Saturday. Unimpressed. They were handled...where was that vaunted attack?

Mount is classified as a "C" school, that makes them a C school. You could fit the whole school in a wing of WM. Yes, it was a scrimmage, but they looked FAR better than WM; would you not agree??? That is all that I'm saying. WM may fulfill its manifest destiny, but they have a long way to go, no? Just showing up in the bus with your swag won't get it done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is my rant for the week. Nice an early season rankings are great and some say meaningless but when it does matters later you know where Im coming from.

I know early in the season, but power points are already messed up. How can a team an 0-2 team be ahead of a team 1-0.

Do power points matter across the Divs?
Harborfields (1-0, Whitman) and Kings Park should be ranked over BBBP. (0-2, Riverhead and Sachem North) and East Islip (0-2),
Sachem North (1-0) should be over Connetquot (0-1)
and hey he's a shout out to Middle Country (although I hate combined schools, where is a brick and mortar MC anyways) but why isn't Middle Country (2-0) over Whitman (0-2) or Floyd (0-1)

Now points wise why is
Islip 120 and Bay Shore at 119
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Riverhead 114
BBP 117 and East Islip 118 over Sachem North 112
Bay Shore just beat East Islip and they were only 1 point ahead of them.

Don't get me started with Smithtown West. yes, you lost to a non conference powerhouse but you lost, you shouldn't start as the #1. Here again is where the points should mean something. Mt Sinia with only 123, you know when Ward Melville comes into the ranking they will be #1 which means they would be more than 122, but as the scrimmage proved should not be ranked higher PP than Mt Sinai.

Now a true actuary will ask why would Ward Melville even come in high with points when their wins would only be against Sachem East and Whitman??

This goes to show many of the preseason ranking was BS and political. And please don't tell me it only matters at the end. I know when it matters, but power points is what gets you into the playoffs. It starts to matter now. In 10 days, next Saturday, 25% of the season is over. Don't blink!

OK. I'm gonna help this guy out, the current rankings you see on Section XI have nothing to do with the games played so far. They are the preseason ranking points added to the teams. Preseason points help get rid of sandbagging teams. Plus only division games count to these points. So, Riverhead beating BBP does 0 for Riverhead. BBP is not ahead of Riverhead, they are not even in the same division. BBP has more points becasue they were a higher preseason seed, in their division, then Sachem and Riverhead, in their respective division. thats it!!!! No games played have had an effect on rankings or points. If you notice, some teams are not even listed, because they have not had games yet

Exactly the point. Preseason ranking are bull. But I'll entertain this further. If as you say, games played doesn't have an impact, because they are non league, then why not list teams that havnt played. There should be some relationship between the divisions and the rankings

Power points are for playoffs only. If NL games figured into them you would only play the worse teams out there and get easy wins.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC is not all that deep.....you will see next year. 2020 class is a disaster.

What a ridiculous thing to write at the start of 2019 season.

Don't have to wait for next year......only two juniors go on the field this year.

The seniors are excellent why play a junior? Group of boys won state championship in lacrosse and football LIC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount is classified as a "C" school, that makes them a C school. You could fit the whole school in a wing of WM. Yes, it was a scrimmage, but they looked FAR better than WM; would you not agree??? That is all that I'm saying. WM may fulfill its manifest destiny, but they have a long way to go, no? Just showing up in the bus with your swag won't get it done.

First it was "prognosticated". Now it's "manifest destiny". Guy, please stop. This is a lacrosse forum, not history class. And move back to your real town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

What is a good site to track games , games schedule like the website that’s not around Laxpower. I’m totally lost now with Hs Lax .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

Your post shows that WM is doing something right. After all, who hates on the unsuccessful? I'm not sure if you are saying that the author of the article should be embarrassed, or the players, or the entire WM community at large, or maybe all of the above. I'm willing to bet that the players didn't petition IL to come write an article about them. And I'm also willing to bet that if IL told your program they wanted to feature them in their magazine, your program wouldn't turn it down - just spit-balling on that one. Also, in case you haven't noticed, WM has won a couple of championships lately, so there is already a target on their back to begin with (if not, there should be!). Agreed, the article doesn't make it any easier for them, but they get everybody's best game, year in and year out and have to step up to that challenge - you should at least have enough humility to realize that, but probably not. If you read the piece (and i assume you did) you would know it was more about the program in general, its origins, and how it has managed to sustain success in an atmosphere of private and prep schools that are essentially lacrosse all-star teams (Catholics included) and not necessarily a piece about how great this year's team will be. They (WM) are returning 6 starters from last year (1 is injured right now), including 2 kids that have started since 2016. So you can understand the lofty predictions, which may or may not be accurate - but isn't that why championships aren't given out in the pre-season? Suffolk A is not wide open, but the top spot will definitely be within reach of more teams this year than usual. And WM definitely has more holes to fill than they usually do, but I wouldn't want to play them by the time they reach the playoffs (unless you are so biased to think they are so bad that they wont make the playoffs!). There will be bumps in the road for this team - yes- but i wouldn't be eulogizing them just yet over a scrimmage loss to an excellent, well-coach lacrosse team, regardless of class or division. That MS team is in mid-season form and has definitely put in time together in the off-season. They will be a terrific team this year - no question (psst - here's a secret, MS and/or SWR have beaten WM in scrimmages in prior years too and it worked out fine for WM in the end). If you are from MS, show some humility, act like you have been there before and hope you stay healthy; you should have a great year. And even though you didn't mention it in your post, others always bring it up when hating and denying credit - yes WM is a big district, but demographics matter more than population. And if you know anything about the district, you would know that like many other districts, enrollment is down and the shifting demographic is not lacrosse -favorable (I will leave it there lest the PC police come to get me). So just saying "they are a huge district and should win every year" is nonsense. Lacrosse is pretty popular on most of LI, last time I checked, and a lot of kids have access to travel ball regardless of district. Lastly, if you are an opponent of theirs...
Thanks for the bulletin board material!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is a good site to track games , games schedule like the website that’s not around Laxpower. I’m totally lost now with Hs Lax .

Don't worry, if you are lost you will fit right in on this site. Have you read the posts from some of these people? Clearly they are lost.

I believe BOTC is tracking game scores : )

Signed,
Sensitive in Setauket

"First it was "prognosticated". Now it's "manifest destiny". Guy, please stop. This is a lacrosse forum, not history class. And move back to your real town."

Nice deflection...now, YOU get back to your beat, delivery route or waiting for a fire to happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

Your post shows that WM is doing something right. After all, who hates on the unsuccessful? I'm not sure if you are saying that the author of the article should be embarrassed, or the players, or the entire WM community at large, or maybe all of the above. I'm willing to bet that the players didn't petition IL to come write an article about them. And I'm also willing to bet that if IL told your program they wanted to feature them in their magazine, your program wouldn't turn it down - just spit-balling on that one. Also, in case you haven't noticed, WM has won a couple of championships lately, so there is already a target on their back to begin with (if not, there should be!). Agreed, the article doesn't make it any easier for them, but they get everybody's best game, year in and year out and have to step up to that challenge - you should at least have enough humility to realize that, but probably not. If you read the piece (and i assume you did) you would know it was more about the program in general, its origins, and how it has managed to sustain success in an atmosphere of private and prep schools that are essentially lacrosse all-star teams (Catholics included) and not necessarily a piece about how great this year's team will be. They (WM) are returning 6 starters from last year (1 is injured right now), including 2 kids that have started since 2016. So you can understand the lofty predictions, which may or may not be accurate - but isn't that why championships aren't given out in the pre-season? Suffolk A is not wide open, but the top spot will definitely be within reach of more teams this year than usual. And WM definitely has more holes to fill than they usually do, but I wouldn't want to play them by the time they reach the playoffs (unless you are so biased to think they are so bad that they wont make the playoffs!). There will be bumps in the road for this team - yes- but i wouldn't be eulogizing them just yet over a scrimmage loss to an excellent, well-coach lacrosse team, regardless of class or division. That MS team is in mid-season form and has definitely put in time together in the off-season. They will be a terrific team this year - no question (psst - here's a secret, MS and/or SWR have beaten WM in scrimmages in prior years too and it worked out fine for WM in the end). If you are from MS, show some humility, act like you have been there before and hope you stay healthy; you should have a great year. And even though you didn't mention it in your post, others always bring it up when hating and denying credit - yes WM is a big district, but demographics matter more than population. And if you know anything about the district, you would know that like many other districts, enrollment is down and the shifting demographic is not lacrosse -favorable (I will leave it there lest the PC police come to get me). So just saying "they are a huge district and should win every year" is nonsense. Lacrosse is pretty popular on most of LI, last time I checked, and a lot of kids have access to travel ball regardless of district. Lastly, if you are an opponent of theirs...
Thanks for the bulletin board material!

Probably the best response I've ever read on this site. Thoughtful, well written and objective.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is a good site to track games , games schedule like the website that’s not around Laxpower. I’m totally lost now with Hs Lax .

Don't worry, if you are lost you will fit right in on this site. Have you read the posts from some of these people? Clearly they are lost.

I believe BOTC is tracking game scores : )

Thank You ; )

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

Your post shows that WM is doing something right. After all, who hates on the unsuccessful? I'm not sure if you are saying that the author of the article should be embarrassed, or the players, or the entire WM community at large, or maybe all of the above. I'm willing to bet that the players didn't petition IL to come write an article about them. And I'm also willing to bet that if IL told your program they wanted to feature them in their magazine, your program wouldn't turn it down - just spit-balling on that one. Also, in case you haven't noticed, WM has won a couple of championships lately, so there is already a target on their back to begin with (if not, there should be!). Agreed, the article doesn't make it any easier for them, but they get everybody's best game, year in and year out and have to step up to that challenge - you should at least have enough humility to realize that, but probably not. If you read the piece (and i assume you did) you would know it was more about the program in general, its origins, and how it has managed to sustain success in an atmosphere of private and prep schools that are essentially lacrosse all-star teams (Catholics included) and not necessarily a piece about how great this year's team will be. They (WM) are returning 6 starters from last year (1 is injured right now), including 2 kids that have started since 2016. So you can understand the lofty predictions, which may or may not be accurate - but isn't that why championships aren't given out in the pre-season? Suffolk A is not wide open, but the top spot will definitely be within reach of more teams this year than usual. And WM definitely has more holes to fill than they usually do, but I wouldn't want to play them by the time they reach the playoffs (unless you are so biased to think they are so bad that they wont make the playoffs!). There will be bumps in the road for this team - yes- but i wouldn't be eulogizing them just yet over a scrimmage loss to an excellent, well-coach lacrosse team, regardless of class or division. That MS team is in mid-season form and has definitely put in time together in the off-season. They will be a terrific team this year - no question (psst - here's a secret, MS and/or SWR have beaten WM in scrimmages in prior years too and it worked out fine for WM in the end). If you are from MS, show some humility, act like you have been there before and hope you stay healthy; you should have a great year. And even though you didn't mention it in your post, others always bring it up when hating and denying credit - yes WM is a big district, but demographics matter more than population. And if you know anything about the district, you would know that like many other districts, enrollment is down and the shifting demographic is not lacrosse -favorable (I will leave it there lest the PC police come to get me). So just saying "they are a huge district and should win every year" is nonsense. Lacrosse is pretty popular on most of LI, last time I checked, and a lot of kids have access to travel ball regardless of district. Lastly, if you are an opponent of theirs...
Thanks for the bulletin board material!

Thank you, well said.

Success brings the haters out. They are jealous of individual players as well as successful programs. Am I correct that these lunatics are pounding their chests after a scrimmage? Are they calling out the current players because of an article written about the history of the program? Oh boy, these people are sick. I was unaware of the fact that Mt. Sinai had a boy's program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

Your post shows that WM is doing something right. After all, who hates on the unsuccessful? I'm not sure if you are saying that the author of the article should be embarrassed, or the players, or the entire WM community at large, or maybe all of the above. I'm willing to bet that the players didn't petition IL to come write an article about them. And I'm also willing to bet that if IL told your program they wanted to feature them in their magazine, your program wouldn't turn it down - just spit-balling on that one. Also, in case you haven't noticed, WM has won a couple of championships lately, so there is already a target on their back to begin with (if not, there should be!). Agreed, the article doesn't make it any easier for them, but they get everybody's best game, year in and year out and have to step up to that challenge - you should at least have enough humility to realize that, but probably not. If you read the piece (and i assume you did) you would know it was more about the program in general, its origins, and how it has managed to sustain success in an atmosphere of private and prep schools that are essentially lacrosse all-star teams (Catholics included) and not necessarily a piece about how great this year's team will be. They (WM) are returning 6 starters from last year (1 is injured right now), including 2 kids that have started since 2016. So you can understand the lofty predictions, which may or may not be accurate - but isn't that why championships aren't given out in the pre-season? Suffolk A is not wide open, but the top spot will definitely be within reach of more teams this year than usual. And WM definitely has more holes to fill than they usually do, but I wouldn't want to play them by the time they reach the playoffs (unless you are so biased to think they are so bad that they wont make the playoffs!). There will be bumps in the road for this team - yes- but i wouldn't be eulogizing them just yet over a scrimmage loss to an excellent, well-coach lacrosse team, regardless of class or division. That MS team is in mid-season form and has definitely put in time together in the off-season. They will be a terrific team this year - no question (psst - here's a secret, MS and/or SWR have beaten WM in scrimmages in prior years too and it worked out fine for WM in the end). If you are from MS, show some humility, act like you have been there before and hope you stay healthy; you should have a great year. And even though you didn't mention it in your post, others always bring it up when hating and denying credit - yes WM is a big district, but demographics matter more than population. And if you know anything about the district, you would know that like many other districts, enrollment is down and the shifting demographic is not lacrosse -favorable (I will leave it there lest the PC police come to get me). So just saying "they are a huge district and should win every year" is nonsense. Lacrosse is pretty popular on most of LI, last time I checked, and a lot of kids have access to travel ball regardless of district. Lastly, if you are an opponent of theirs...
Thanks for the bulletin board material!

Thank you, well said.

Success brings the haters out. They are jealous of individual players as well as successful programs. Am I correct that these lunatics are pounding their chests after a scrimmage? Are they calling out the current players because of an article written about the history of the program? Oh boy, these people are sick. I was unaware of the fact that Mt. Sinai had a boy's program.

Maybe Mt. S is afraid they will crap the bed again liked they did last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not "just" a scrimmage, but a scrimmage against a team picked by experts to be the 2nd best in the country. Clearly they aren't there yet as they got handled in every facet of the game by a "C" school. Yes, June is what matters but clearly any observer would walk away from viewing this saying Mount Sinai can play, with anyone...and maybe Suffolk A is more open than people have prognosticated for this season.

WM is a shell of what it was, waaaay overrated. The Inside Lacrosse article is an embarrassment, and will be a dagger to burry them. Agree that Suffolk A is wide open. Although there is isolated talent on some teams, nobody has a complete team. Will be interesting!

Your post shows that WM is doing something right. After all, who hates on the unsuccessful? I'm not sure if you are saying that the author of the article should be embarrassed, or the players, or the entire WM community at large, or maybe all of the above. I'm willing to bet that the players didn't petition IL to come write an article about them. And I'm also willing to bet that if IL told your program they wanted to feature them in their magazine, your program wouldn't turn it down - just spit-balling on that one. Also, in case you haven't noticed, WM has won a couple of championships lately, so there is already a target on their back to begin with (if not, there should be!). Agreed, the article doesn't make it any easier for them, but they get everybody's best game, year in and year out and have to step up to that challenge - you should at least have enough humility to realize that, but probably not. If you read the piece (and i assume you did) you would know it was more about the program in general, its origins, and how it has managed to sustain success in an atmosphere of private and prep schools that are essentially lacrosse all-star teams (Catholics included) and not necessarily a piece about how great this year's team will be. They (WM) are returning 6 starters from last year (1 is injured right now), including 2 kids that have started since 2016. So you can understand the lofty predictions, which may or may not be accurate - but isn't that why championships aren't given out in the pre-season? Suffolk A is not wide open, but the top spot will definitely be within reach of more teams this year than usual. And WM definitely has more holes to fill than they usually do, but I wouldn't want to play them by the time they reach the playoffs (unless you are so biased to think they are so bad that they wont make the playoffs!). There will be bumps in the road for this team - yes- but i wouldn't be eulogizing them just yet over a scrimmage loss to an excellent, well-coach lacrosse team, regardless of class or division. That MS team is in mid-season form and has definitely put in time together in the off-season. They will be a terrific team this year - no question (psst - here's a secret, MS and/or SWR have beaten WM in scrimmages in prior years too and it worked out fine for WM in the end). If you are from MS, show some humility, act like you have been there before and hope you stay healthy; you should have a great year. And even though you didn't mention it in your post, others always bring it up when hating and denying credit - yes WM is a big district, but demographics matter more than population. And if you know anything about the district, you would know that like many other districts, enrollment is down and the shifting demographic is not lacrosse -favorable (I will leave it there lest the PC police come to get me). So just saying "they are a huge district and should win every year" is nonsense. Lacrosse is pretty popular on most of LI, last time I checked, and a lot of kids have access to travel ball regardless of district. Lastly, if you are an opponent of theirs...
Thanks for the bulletin board material!

Thank you, well said.

Success brings the haters out. They are jealous of individual players as well as successful programs. Am I correct that these lunatics are pounding their chests after a scrimmage? Are they calling out the current players because of an article written about the history of the program? Oh boy, these people are sick. I was unaware of the fact that Mt. Sinai had a boy's program.

Maybe Mt. S is afraid they will crap the bed again liked they did last year?

Listen to you clowns "my sons team is better than your sons " WHO cares. WM, MTS, SWR WI Islip COms Smithowns Are all great programs

CSH pulls it out in OT. From what I saw, they were better than Syo..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH pulls it out in OT. From what I saw, they were better than Syo..

Yes, way better that is why the game went to OT. Thanks for the insightful comment.

How did the Friars v Ward Melville scrimmage go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH pulls it out in OT. From what I saw, they were better than Syo..

Yes, way better that is why the game went to OT. Thanks for the insightful comment.

Saw syo in a scrimmage they were not good. If thats case chs is not good

SUFFOLK A WIDE OPEN .... Let’s go WI ..bring it home

Any program that has parents that think like this guy will be successful.iYes it is that simple.

WM wins a close one. Hmmmmmm

A "W" is a "W" period!

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

GC kid is legit, no doubt. Anyone out there he can't beat? Chaminade?

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

How does Huntington jump above most teams after beating longwood. How does beating longwood give them 10-7 points. No way they were ranked over Connetquot or Riverhead. Since they hadnt played a conference game their 114ish pp should be their original rank. Then 1 win gives Huntington 120 pp.

Beating a lower/bottom tier team does not, should not, bolster your rank over top teir schools, who havnt any in conference schools. Who is in charge of the algorithm? Stickhead?

Let's see what happens when the new ranks with Fri/Sat games come out. Heck a one point loss to WM should SE more points. Northport Riverhead should both be over Hunt. Hunt should maybe only over Hhhe. Middle Country has got to be over them. Can't wait 'til the next release in points.

Northport why in the world would you schedule Riverhead on a Friday then Southside on the next day? back to back? That is just not fair to your boys. Why would you do that to them? Those are two of the islands top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

Take it easy Dad. Didn't face all the best on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM wins a close one. Hmmmmmm

WM canceled the game against Chaminade on 4/06

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

Do you realize the Massapequa FOGO was wrestling two weeks ago? Placed second in the state! Everyone else has been training FOs non-stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

Chaminade, SA, SE and WM have to be mentioned too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

Take it easy Dad. Didn't face all the best on LI

Umm... I think so, your son aint that good, sorry nice try!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM wins a close one. Hmmmmmm

WM canceled the game against Chaminade on 4/06

Good move!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

Do you realize the Massapequa FOGO was wrestling two weeks ago? Placed second in the state! Everyone else has been training FOs non-stop.

Wow, love the excuses, please keep them coming, BaHahaha. Thought wresting was supposed to help at the fo position??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

Chaminade, SA, SE and WM have to be mentioned too.

Wantagh though?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lot of good FO on Long Island. GC, Mass, CSH, Wantagh, smithtown. Lots of D1 talent. Wouldn’t be annointing GC FO top guy yet. He’s excellent don’t get me wrong. So far what I have seen Smithtown kid going to MD off to a great start and CSH kid beat up pequa kid albeit in a scrimmage. Lots of good match ups to come.
Any given day it’s about match up. All kids are excellent competitors but more importantly good kids

Do you realize the Massapequa FOGO was wrestling two weeks ago? Placed second in the state! Everyone else has been training FOs non-stop.

Wow, love the excuses, please keep them coming, BaHahaha. Thought wresting was supposed to help at the fo position??

Your response say it all. You have no respect for anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Not too well huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Not too well huh?

Nobody cares about scrimmages except tools. Come back here when you have real game stats. Should I come on here every time my kid beats someone in a clinic. Please stop silly daddy

Top FO on LI public/private
4 senior
5 junior
Can you name (or the schools)?
Love
the sheriff
We all know my numero uno

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Not too well huh?

Nobody cares about scrimmages except tools. Come back here when you have real game stats. Should I come on here every time my kid beats someone in a clinic. Please stop silly daddy

Hahahaha......thank you for the confirmation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Not too well huh?

Nobody cares about scrimmages except tools. Come back here when you have real game stats. Should I come on here every time my kid beats someone in a clinic. Please stop silly daddy

So your kid is 19, a senior in high school and you still watch him in clinics?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

How did the SA scrimmage go?

Scrimmages are for practice you dope!

Not too well huh?

Nobody cares about scrimmages except tools. Come back here when you have real game stats. Should I come on here every time my kid beats someone in a clinic. Please stop silly daddy

The saddest excuse on here is to say.... nobody cares. Many care. That is what this site is all about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top FO on LI public/private
4 senior -

5 junior -

Can you name (or the schools)?
Love
the sheriff
We all know my numero uno

I dont care grade here are my top Li Fogo's
Chammy, Pequa, SW, SE, SA, GC, Riverhead, WM,

I dont think ESM, SS, WI, Sachem E, and Want kids are in the above group

Anyone want to talk about the illegal check to the head by the CSH middie.
Middie's take heed - Cant Bull-Dodge and lead with your head, but for this play he was pushed from behind!

What Say you?

Assume you speaking of the Syo CSH game. Was there originally thought was on us but called on CSH
Hard collision, did not look dirty or cheap. I have to say that CSH is a big physical team with a lot of athletes from multiple sports. Props. Agree about bull dodge however

I see so many kids do that. Lead with their head i always wondered when they would call it.

This time he was pushed from the back though - so Im not sure CSh kid should have been called - shoul dhave been push on Syo but loved that the refs looked out for it!

Games this week.
3/26
Bay Shore @ Smithtown east??
Commack @ Riverhead

CSH vs SS
Smithtown East vs Massapequa??

who is Smithtown East Playing on Tues Massapequa or Bay Shore

3/27
ESM @ Harborfields
??Islip @ Babylon??

Port Was @ LV always a good goalie game

3/28
West Islip @ Bay Shore
Northport @ Commack
??Ward Melvilee @ Hills East??
?? Huntington @ Middle Country??

Dalers @ Carey

3/29
Comsewogue @ ESM
??Islip @ East Islip??

3/30
Bay Shore @ Riverhead
Commack @ Smithtown East

SS @ Port Wash
CSh @ Man'set

Locust Valley hosts St Thomas Aquinas (FL) represent!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City beats Pequa, more interesting is that GCs fogo beat Pequas Fogo. He has now beaten arguably the two best on LI. Looks like there’s a new sheriff in town!

You watch the game? More to a face off than the FOGO. GC played two poles on wings. And no, i'm not his dad. It was a great match up though, and a great game.Both players are exceptional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Games this week.
3/26
Bay Shore @ Smithtown east??
Commack @ Riverhead

CSH vs SS
Smithtown East vs Massapequa??

who is Smithtown East Playing on Tues Massapequa or Bay Shore

3/27
ESM @ Harborfields
??Islip @ Babylon??

Port Was @ LV always a good goalie game

3/28
West Islip @ Bay Shore
Northport @ Commack
??Ward Melvilee @ Hills East??
?? Huntington @ Middle Country??

Dalers @ Carey

3/29
Comsewogue @ ESM
??Islip @ East Islip??

3/30
Bay Shore @ Riverhead
Commack @ Smithtown East

SS @ Port Wash
CSh @ Man'set

Locust Valley hosts St Thomas Aquinas (FL) represent!

GC plays Salesium

What about Bay Shore or Smithtown West in Bay Shore in Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about Bay Shore or Smithtown West in Bay Shore in Suffolk?

^What wha, clarify please?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Games this week.
3/26
Bay Shore @ Smithtown east??
Commack @ Riverhead

CSH vs SS
Smithtown East vs Massapequa??

who is Smithtown East Playing on Tues Massapequa or Bay Shore

3/27
ESM @ Harborfields
??Islip @ Babylon??

Port Was @ LV always a good goalie game

3/28
West Islip @ Bay Shore
Northport @ Commack
??Ward Melvilee @ Hills East??
?? Huntington @ Middle Country??

Dalers @ Carey

3/29
Comsewogue @ ESM
??Islip @ East Islip??

3/30
Bay Shore @ Riverhead
Commack @ Smithtown East

SS @ Port Wash
CSh @ Man'set

Locust Valley hosts St Thomas Aquinas (FL) represent!

GC plays Salesium

yeah sorry their loss to Chaminade lessened the load, didnt include them. GC should win easy

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

I meant what are Bay SHore and Smithtown West chances in Suffolk division?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I meant what are Bay SHore and Smithtown West chances in Suffolk division?

So you're saying they have a chance?

Many schools have a chance, it's not just those 2. I would hold off on anyone's chances until after 4/1. Even then, the picture doesn't start to unfold until 4/10 and 4/26.

Need lax power back or MSG varsity . Any other sites can follow Hs lacrosse , who won , schedule games etc. y

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I meant what are Bay SHore and Smithtown West chances in Suffolk division?

So you're saying they have a chance?

Many schools have a chance, it's not just those 2. I would hold off on anyone's chances until after 4/1. Even then, the picture doesn't start to unfold until 4/10 and 4/26.

Bay Shore took care of SE. SE had only one kid scoring goals and dominated f/os but still went down hard. Bay Shore for real?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Need lax power back or MSG varsity . Any other sites can follow Hs lacrosse , who won , schedule games etc. y

Newsday! if your not on LI, then sorry!

https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

The big kid I was referencing was the CSH kid. I think he is one of the best on the island.

Did they dominate faceoffs? Bay Shore f/o kid gave them a very hard time. He’s tough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did they dominate faceoffs? Bay Shore f/o kid gave them a very hard time. He’s tough.

Smith E went over 70% on f/o, but the Bay Shore kid will do well against most of the other teams in the league with the exception of Smithtown West. The Smithtowns probably have the two best Fogos in Suffolk A

I think the kid is only a sophomore. The long pole on that line was the key to the Bay Shore possessions on the f/o.
Bay Shore controlled the game very early.

"Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

The big kid I was referencing was the CSH kid. I think he is one of the best on the island."

Wrong? He may have been pushed, but fact is he voluntarily lowered his head and his head was the first part of his body to make contact. Still not sure what the call should've been. Great player. Glad both boys were ok after the collision.

Suffolk get your power points right.

How is Riverhead below West Islip and Bay Shore in the rankings. I find it hard to believe beating Commack and Northport doesn't give Riverhead more points that West Islip beating Floyd or Bay Shore with one win. I can get the pro-ration of 1 to 2 games, but quality early wins proves the starting points are bogus.

Middle Country also needs to be higher at least for now, Northport and Middle Country both beat Lindy but look at where the two are ranked. At the least, Middle Country, for the time being, needs to be over Commack and Hills East.

For those that say it all catches up, okay, if it does then why not reward the wins completed. if it all catches up, then after a team wins they'll be fine. This year more than ever, things can change in a week.

Reward the wins.

Princeton's Sowers was incredible last night. I haven't seen anyone move his feet on attack like that since Pannell.

West Islip is dominating and the power points will all even out in a couple of weeks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the kid is only a sophomore. The long pole on that line was the key to the Bay Shore possessions on the f/o.
Bay Shore controlled the game very early.

Face offs and Wing play seem to be a big issue on this site recently. Smithtown East's fogo is very good, as is the GC fogo. But, I'm sorry like the GC fogo's stats, 70% for the SE fogo are inflated. 57.7% to be precise and that is giving him the 1 for a penalty (which IMO shouldn't be a win).

Still too early in the season, jury's not out if either of those teams are good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think the kid is only a sophomore. The long pole on that line was the key to the Bay Shore possessions on the f/o.
Bay Shore controlled the game very early.

Face offs and Wing play seem to be a big issue on this site recently. Smithtown East's fogo is very good, as is the GC fogo. But, I'm sorry like the GC fogo's stats, 70% for the SE fogo are inflated. 57.7% to be precise and that is giving him the 1 for a penalty (which IMO shouldn't be a win).

Still too early in the season, jury's not out if either of those teams are good.

How are the GCs stats inflated?? You don't seem like you know how to read F/O stats for someone who is so concerned. You need to educate yourself about what does/does not count as a win. Nobody cares about your opinion.

Do you mean GC or BS fogo? A bit confusing.

I guess the bigger tests for West Islip will be this week against Bay Shore who have the same record. Both teams have put up big numbers on the field. Early test as to what will happen this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

The big kid I was referencing was the CSH kid. I think he is one of the best on the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

The big kid I was referencing was the CSH kid. I think he is one of the best on the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Re: Csh vs. Syosset. The kid lowered his head at the last sec resulting in his head being the first piece of his body to collide with the SYO defensemen. Shoulder was a milli sec behind crashing into the defender at full speed. Both players got up. The ref gave the wrong signal when he motioned elbow to the head...it was helmet to helmet and hard but not dirty. Had he not ducked his head there would've been no call.

Very good game. The Syo midfielder going to Yale was really good.

No wrong, watch it again, the smal LSM pushed him (not hard) but twice. Should have been a push call CSH ball. But If yo didnt see the push then yes helemt to helmet call woul dhave been the right call.

Yes the kid is big, and to me one of the top Middies on the island. But in this case i wouldnt have called it on that kid. But puts the warning out there that the offense cant initiate contact with their head.

The big kid I was referencing was the CSH kid. I think he is one of the best on the island.

Are we talking about the tall attackman going to Cornell?

Power Points are a excellent system. It all woks out at the end

The CSH player question: No, definitely not the tall attackman going to Cornell. The big middie going to Bucknell is who the discussion was about.

Does Ward Melville have any out of conference games this year? I don't see any on Sectionxi.org.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk get your power points right.

How is Riverhead below West Islip and Bay Shore in the rankings. I find it hard to believe beating Commack and Northport doesn't give Riverhead more points that West Islip beating Floyd or Bay Shore with one win. I can get the pro-ration of 1 to 2 games, but quality early wins proves the starting points are bogus.

Middle Country also needs to be higher at least for now, Northport and Middle Country both beat Lindy but look at where the two are ranked. At the least, Middle Country, for the time being, needs to be over Commack and Hills East.

For those that say it all catches up, okay, if it does then why not reward the wins completed. if it all catches up, then after a team wins they'll be fine. This year more than ever, things can change in a week.

Reward the wins.

Well, Riverhead will play Bay Shore this week so we'll see what each team is made of that day. The Commack win isn't that big as I feel Commack is not what everyone expected this year. The next three days will definitely clear things up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh boy SW daddy, you’re in for a tough wake up call come college. Nobody cares how you win/lose. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss.. Right now you’re in the losers bracket. But the kid is good and I’m sure will bounce back. But this time GC got the best of him. Stats don’t lie, call it a day. And for the record GC went 61% at the X against a quality opponent, we’ll take it! Go GC!

Hey relax I'm on your side, the boys did well but the film doesn't lie. I don't care about "on the record" or the paper we all know that's discretionary at best. The list above is from the game. Pick what suits you best, but 13 of 23 is not 60%. 56.5%. SW Kid isn't going to have a wake up call in college, saying that just minimized the wing play. GC fogo played a great game.

Saturday's going to be a another battle!

this was the entry that was being used as the GC & SE comparison on inflating stats.

GC said their FOGO (against SW) went 61% when he went 56.5%
SE said their fogo (against BS) went 70% went 57%

Inflated stats!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh boy SW daddy, you’re in for a tough wake up call come college. Nobody cares how you win/lose. A win is a win, and a loss is a loss.. Right now you’re in the losers bracket. But the kid is good and I’m sure will bounce back. But this time GC got the best of him. Stats don’t lie, call it a day. And for the record GC went 61% at the X against a quality opponent, we’ll take it! Go GC!

Hey relax I'm on your side, the boys did well but the film doesn't lie. I don't care about "on the record" or the paper we all know that's discretionary at best. The list above is from the game. Pick what suits you best, but 13 of 23 is not 60%. 56.5%. SW Kid isn't going to have a wake up call in college, saying that just minimized the wing play. GC fogo played a great game.

Saturday's going to be a another battle!

this was the entry that was being used as the GC & SE comparison on inflating stats.

GC said their FOGO (against SW) went 61% when he went 56.5%
SE said their fogo (against BS) went 70% went 57%

Inflated stats!!!

Fake news! But either way SE and GC fogos were the dominant fogos of the game, stats are questionable, but we can both agree who won the battle! On to the next! Who ever is arguing this is still the lost....please move on

Riverhead will shutdown Bay Shore

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

WI handled BS easily. All aspects of the game were rolling. next up, we’re ready!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

WI handled BS easily. All aspects of the game were rolling. next up, we’re ready!

Great to see the kids on here, what number are you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

WI handled BS easily. All aspects of the game were rolling. next up, we’re ready!

Great to see the kids on here, what number are you?

I really hope this is a kid. If not, then pretty pathetic and definitely bad juju for WI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

WI handled BS easily. All aspects of the game were rolling. next up, we’re ready!

Great to see the kids on here, what number are you?

BS fogo beat WI, so you were not dominant there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Game for both Teams West Islip vs Bay Shore ......

WI handled BS easily. All aspects of the game were rolling. next up, we’re ready!

Great to see the kids on here, what number are you?

BS fogo beat WI, so you were not dominant there

That's a joke right Mom?

West Islip fogo dominated the X. Offensively underwhelming. It was not a good offensive game. A credit to the Defenses and goalies that both played well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip fogo dominated the X. Offensively underwhelming. It was not a good offensive game. A credit to the Defenses and goalies that both played well.

Lol, BS likes to make up fake news! Where are the BS stat police now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip fogo dominated the X. Offensively underwhelming. It was not a good offensive game. A credit to the Defenses and goalies that both played well.

Lol, BS likes to make up fake news! Where are the BS stat police now?

Ha ha ha Stat police more like precinct.
Are you arguing the assessment above?

BS and WI fogo have a lot of respect for each other unlike the people on this feed. They train together and this time
the WI guy won. He is very good at X and was even complimented at the end by his opponent. WI played a better game and
but it was not an offensive game. Defense on both sides played well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BS and WI fogo have a lot of respect for each other unlike the people on this feed. They train together and this time
the WI guy won. He is very good at X and was even complimented at the end by his opponent. WI played a better game and
but it was not an offensive game. Defense on both sides played well.

This time the WI guy won? How about all the time. From what I saw the WI fogo dominated the game. Nice attempt at saving face. It didn’t work.

Never heard from the kid in WI who posted here. Oh well good luck with your season kid.

Well if you read the post you would see that I said he won!! I gave him props he’s a good FO. You just make comments ugly to stir the pot. How about you grow up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1. BS and WI fogo have a lot of respect for each other unlike the people on this feed. They train together and this time
the WI guy won. He is very good at X and was even complimented at the end by his opponent. WI played a better game and
but it was not an offensive game. Defense on both sides played well.

2). This time the WI guy won? How about all the time. From what I saw the WI fogo dominated the game. Nice attempt at saving face. It didn’t work.

Dude from comment #2 chill, I bet comment #1 was from a WI guy who returned some respect for his opponent (class act) and admitted it wasnt a good offensive game. I would also wager the other post (not on here) was from a BS guy saying and admitting they were dominated at x and the defenses and goalies were key. Also saying offenses was underwhelming.

There is much respect from these teams, boys, and families. I wouldn't be surprised if they rooted each other on. No saving face anywhere!

So......Who are the best fogos in Suffolk A? I have
Smithtown West
Smithtown East/West Islip
Ward Melville
Bayshore
Northport
Not sure if I'm missing anyone....asking for a friend:)

River head faceoff kid is very good.

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Upcoming games this week, big week in Nassau.

4/2
ESM vs Kings Park
East Islip vs Harbprfields

Carey vs Locust valley
Calhoun vs Port Wash
Dalers vs Syo
Want vs Seaford

Chammy vs Pequa
St As vs Manhasset

4/3
Ward Melville vs Bay Shore
Smithtown West vs Commack?? (Commack plays West Islip Monday tough week for Commack)
Riverhead vs Middle Country??

Southside vs GC
North Shore mineloa

4/4
Mt Sinai vs ESM (tough week for ESM, hate the bounce back game)
Islip vs Hills West

Calhoun vs GC
Long BEach vs manhasset

4/5
Smithtown East vs Northport
Middle Country vs Sachem East

Pequa vs Port Wash

4/6
Harborfield vs Islip

Riverhead vs Long beach (non conference)
GC vs LaSalle (pa)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Holding and slashing, Not legal in the rules and the refs need to learn the rules and call it before more kids get hurt!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Everyone saw it, refs need to call that right away not wait to see the outcome when there is dangerous play involved. Commack fogo stinks and just try’s to hurt the other kid because he knows he can’t win. Nothing wrong with a long pole who goes for the ball, this kid just try’s to take kids out. Awful dirty play needs to be called by the refs

As we have said all winter long WI will dominate Suffolk A with the best attack unit in the league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we have said all winter long WI will dominate Suffolk A with the best attack unit in the league

What travel clubs are those boys on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Upcoming games this week, big week in Nassau.

4/2
ESM vs Kings Park
East Islip vs Harbprfields

Carey vs Locust valley
Calhoun vs Port Wash
Dalers vs Syo
Want vs Seaford

Chammy vs Pequa
St As vs Manhasset

4/3
Ward Melville vs Bay Shore
Smithtown West vs Commack?? (Commack plays West Islip Monday tough week for Commack)
Riverhead vs Middle Country??

Southside vs GC
North Shore mineloa

4/4
Mt Sinai vs ESM (tough week for ESM, hate the bounce back game)
Islip vs Hills West

Calhoun vs GC
Long BEach vs manhasset

4/5
Smithtown East vs Northport
Middle Country vs Sachem East

Pequa vs Port Wash

4/6
Harborfield vs Islip

Riverhead vs Long beach (non conference)
GC vs LaSalle (pa)

Garden City beat the perennial Delware State champs (Salesnium) 12-4 this weekend. The teams looks to be in mid season form.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Upcoming games this week, big week in Nassau.

4/2
ESM vs Kings Park
East Islip vs Harbprfields

Carey vs Locust valley
Calhoun vs Port Wash
Dalers vs Syo
Want vs Seaford

Chammy vs Pequa
St As vs Manhasset

4/3
Ward Melville vs Bay Shore
Smithtown West vs Commack?? (Commack plays West Islip Monday tough week for Commack)
Riverhead vs Middle Country??

Southside vs GC
North Shore mineloa

4/4
Mt Sinai vs ESM (tough week for ESM, hate the bounce back game)
Islip vs Hills West

Calhoun vs GC
Long BEach vs manhasset

4/5
Smithtown East vs Northport
Middle Country vs Sachem East

Pequa vs Port Wash

4/6
Harborfield vs Islip

Riverhead vs Long beach (non conference)
GC vs LaSalle (pa)

Garden City beat the perennial Delware State champs (Salesnium) 12-4 this weekend. The teams looks to be in mid season form.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Upcoming games this week, big week in Nassau.

4/2
ESM vs Kings Park
East Islip vs Harbprfields

Carey vs Locust valley
Calhoun vs Port Wash
Dalers vs Syo
Want vs Seaford

Chammy vs Pequa
St As vs Manhasset

4/3
Ward Melville vs Bay Shore
Smithtown West vs Commack?? (Commack plays West Islip Monday tough week for Commack)
Riverhead vs Middle Country??

Southside vs GC
North Shore mineloa

4/4
Mt Sinai vs ESM (tough week for ESM, hate the bounce back game)
Islip vs Hills West

Calhoun vs GC
Long BEach vs manhasset

4/5
Smithtown East vs Northport
Middle Country vs Sachem East

Pequa vs Port Wash

4/6
Harborfield vs Islip

Riverhead vs Long beach (non conference)
GC vs LaSalle (pa)

Garden City beat the perennial Delware State champs (Salesnium) 12-4 this weekend. The teams looks to be in mid season form.

Salesium is horrible this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we have said all winter long WI will dominate Suffolk A with the best attack unit in the league

What travel clubs are those boys on?

play some real comp , before you start with the BS..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Everyone saw it, refs need to call that right away not wait to see the outcome when there is dangerous play involved. Commack fogo stinks and just try’s to hurt the other kid because he knows he can’t win. Nothing wrong with a long pole who goes for the ball, this kid just try’s to take kids out. Awful dirty play needs to be called by the refs

Seems to me that the refs have been horrible this year. One game they were the deciding factor, and that shouldn't be the case. I have seen better refs at the PAL Level.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Everyone saw it, refs need to call that right away not wait to see the outcome when there is dangerous play involved. Commack fogo stinks and just try’s to hurt the other kid because he knows he can’t win. Nothing wrong with a long pole who goes for the ball, this kid just try’s to take kids out. Awful dirty play needs to be called by the refs

Seems to me that the refs have been horrible this year. One game they were the deciding factor, and that shouldn't be the case. I have seen better refs at the PAL Level.

You getting involved? The class is available. Need the link?

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well the Northport FOGO just had his elbow dislocated by the Commack FOGO because Commack was using an illegal move that was not being called by the refs.

Did the same thing to Smithtown East fogo Saturday. Was holding and playing the man not the ball. Refs were useless and need to learn rules. A shame for Northport, nobody deserves to get hurt like that.

What was the "illegal" move?

Everyone saw it, refs need to call that right away not wait to see the outcome when there is dangerous play involved. Commack fogo stinks and just try’s to hurt the other kid because he knows he can’t win. Nothing wrong with a long pole who goes for the ball, this kid just try’s to take kids out. Awful dirty play needs to be called by the refs

Seems to me that the refs have been horrible this year. One game they were the deciding factor, and that shouldn't be the case. I have seen better refs at the PAL Level.

Seems to me that they are pulling from the same pool - I have seen some of the same refs throughout the season do one son's PAL games, then MS, and then HS games, not to mention tourney games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So......Who are the best fogos in Suffolk A? I have
Smithtown West
Smithtown East/West Islip
Ward Melville
Bayshore
Northport
Not sure if I'm missing anyone....asking for a friend:)

Who cares???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So......Who are the best fogos in Suffolk A? I have
Smithtown West
Smithtown East/West Islip
Ward Melville
Bayshore
Northport
Not sure if I'm missing anyone....asking for a friend:)

Who cares???

Plenty care, the most recruited position in college! Now go back to worrying about why your kid is riding the pine. I would also add Riverhead kid to that list.

Regarding 2018-93, the $ greedy college coaches want to keep the lacrosse date 9/1 because 9/1 enables coaches to run another round of money making summer camps .
If the date was 6/15 coaches would commit the "true recruits" the coaches were truly interested in on 6/15 and then the 100's of mislead non-recruits would not go to the coaches' money making camps.
The coaches had a stronger argument when they moved recruiting back 3 YEARS. But now the extra 2 MONTHS coaches want are just for the coaches to make money on 2 months of camps.
Players do not miraculously mature in those last 2 months. It is those 2 months the coaches want to make more money from camps.
The lacrosse coaches want 9/1 instead of 6/15 because of $ greed.
As usual US Lacrosse has sold out to the money and the coaches instead of putting the kids first. Let's hope the NCAA puts the kids first this time.
The NCAA needs to stand up to the coaches and make the date 6/15 like the other sports.
email addresses:
bjames@miami.edu
athdir@pobox.upenn.edu
Proposal #'s:
2018-93 is for June 15th contact like other sports
2018-93-2 is Lax Coach Camp $ greed Sept 1

Fogo, Goalie, Defenseman and Attackman from 2019 Team91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fogo, Goalie, Defenseman and Attackman from 2019 Team91

Can't someone say the same about 2020 Legacy? Or I really hope you don't think you were ever better than Crush?

Whats your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fogo, Goalie, Defenseman and Attackman from 2019 Team91

Can't someone say the same about 2020 Legacy? Or I really hope you don't think you were ever better than Crush?

Whats your point?

What are you two talking about?

Manhasset blew it against St Anthonys. Unfortunately the ball didn't bounce their way.

Nice win for Chaminade. Starting defense held them to 3 goals.

Manhasset is better than I thought. Strong team with skilled players all over the field. St. Anthony's is still awesome, but that game was right there for the taking for Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset is better than I thought. Strong team with skilled players all over the field. St. Anthony's is still awesome, but that game was right there for the taking for Manhasset.

I agree they are a very talented will be tough to beat.

Whats going on in Suffolk big boy Comp

Bay shore, slip sliding away... wm, west, west, west final 4...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bay shore, slip sliding away... wm, west, west, west final 4...

Not too sure what your talking about. Nothing is slipping guy. Loss meant nothing to BS. They will need to treat each game like the last.

? how many "wests" are there in A?

Who is the 3 west? Ward Melville, West Smithtown, West Islip who is the 4th? I wouldn't count anyone out yet. The season is still young. You never know whats going to happen. I believe if you jab at other teams it will come back and get you in the end. Smash talking never did any good for anyone.

Overall the entire A Division is down , season is young and this does not matter until May

"Loss meant nothing to BS."

Well it should. It was a game and all the games matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the entire A Division is down , season is young and this does not matter until May

Down compared to what? Same as it ever was...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Overall the entire A Division is down , season is young and this does not matter until May

We will agree to disagree about your first part. "A" isn't down. Season is young and you get a sense of where things may lay out by April, but yes May is what counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Loss meant nothing to BS."

Well it should. It was a game and all the games matter.

I hope that the poster meant it means nothing for their playoff hopes. They are easily in the playoffs unless something drastic happens..

"Loss meant nothing to BS."

I'm guessing that if BS won the game it certainly would've meant something to them. Funny how we can bend our feelings and interpretations based on an outcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Loss meant nothing to BS."

I'm guessing that if BS won the game it certainly would've meant something to them. Funny how we can bend our feelings and interpretations based on an outcome.

liberalism 101

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Loss meant nothing to BS."

I'm guessing that if BS won the game it certainly would've meant something to them. Funny how we can bend our feelings and interpretations based on an outcome.

liberalism 101

maybe the constant writing about BS is because you are nervous about playing them again in the playoffs. There are so many teams, but you are constantly focusing on them.

Wrong. Walk the walk before you talk the talk fella.kafpef

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Stop the BS, use common sense. The comment about the loss meaning nothing, makes complete sense. Only a loss for WM would have been huge. A loss for BS was expected. No liberal $hit here just real.

Can't wait for the rant of who is dominating. Wi has a lot more to its credit than the 2 dpoles. You talk one attack, yeah I hope it is the crease kid, but just learn to bounce or stay in the box low which WM rope does and that will be tough. But the real unsung hero for WI is 12 and 42 between the 39's the MVPs so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Dude, WI is so incredibly overrated and SW will get completely smacked by WM. But if either one does beat WM, Pequa is guaranteed a LIC win.

WM headed for a beat down this week....stay tuned!

West Islip really maybe if they learn how to catch and throw

Have watched all 3 teams play, now its
1) Smithtown West
2) WM
3) West I
All others not close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have watched all 3 teams play, now its
1) Smithtown West
2) WM
3) West I
All others not close

I see where you are coming from, but I only see one of those 3 teams making it to the final 2 in Suffolk. I also do not see Massapequa winning the LIC. Lots of games left to play for everyone

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Dude, WI is so incredibly overrated and SW will get completely smacked by WM. But if either one does beat WM, Pequa is guaranteed a LIC win.

WM will not lose to WI. It won't be obvious at first, they won't feel the hot blade cutting them open. Before anyone realizes it the game will be over and WI will be on the wrong side of the W column (still thinking they can win). WM goalie and offense is much better than WI. Had WM not canceled their Chaminade game Id say Riverhead was prime to knock them off (that 3 game week is tough, smart move). WI will not score more than SW, looking for a shoot out on that one, look for the over. Not sure the outcome of the WM SW, thinking WM pulls it out like usual, again Goalie play is key. But WM is playing SW on dead legs and SW legs will be fresh as daises.

Then again I could be dead wrong, this is HS sports. That's why they play the games.

Knock Knock
Who's there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Dude, WI is so incredibly overrated and SW will get completely smacked by WM. But if either one does beat WM, Pequa is guaranteed a LIC win.

WM will not lose to WI. It won't be obvious at first, they won't feel the hot blade cutting them open. Before anyone realizes it the game will be over and WI will be on the wrong side of the W column (still thinking they can win). WM goalie and offense is much better than WI. Had WM not canceled their Chaminade game Id say Riverhead was prime to knock them off (that 3 game week is tough, smart move). WI will not score more than SW, looking for a shoot out on that one, look for the over. Not sure the outcome of the WM SW, thinking WM pulls it out like usual, again Goalie play is key. But WM is playing SW on dead legs and SW legs will be fresh as daises.

Then again I could be dead wrong, this is HS sports. That's why they play the games.

Knock Knock
Who's there?

Fresh legs is your excuse?? Love you’re making them already knowing you’re going to lose! I agree that goalie play will be huge, and it won’t be coming from WM

Ward Melville will dominate WI from the start , WI has yet to be tested and under pressure .

In no particular order, GC, Mt Sinai and Manhasset are the three best publics on LI. Massapequa WM are in the next tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no particular order, GC, Mt Sinai and Manhasset are the three best publics on LI. Massapequa WM are in the next tier.

GC is very good, but I think Manhasset is special this year. Haven't seen Mt Sinai play, Massapequa is good, WM is very good.

WI also very strong

Why was the WM - Chaminade game cancelled?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Dude, WI is so incredibly overrated and SW will get completely smacked by WM. But if either one does beat WM, Pequa is guaranteed a LIC win.

WM will not lose to WI. It won't be obvious at first, they won't feel the hot blade cutting them open. Before anyone realizes it the game will be over and WI will be on the wrong side of the W column (still thinking they can win). WM goalie and offense is much better than WI. Had WM not canceled their Chaminade game Id say Riverhead was prime to knock them off (that 3 game week is tough, smart move). WI will not score more than SW, looking for a shoot out on that one, look for the over. Not sure the outcome of the WM SW, thinking WM pulls it out like usual, again Goalie play is key. But WM is playing SW on dead legs and SW legs will be fresh as daises.

Then again I could be dead wrong, this is HS sports. That's why they play the games.

Knock Knock
Who's there?

Fresh legs is your excuse?? Love you’re making them already knowing you’re going to lose! I agree that goalie play will be huge, and it won’t be coming from WM

I think it will be faceoffs that will be the deciding factor. The West Islip FOGO is extremely good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no particular order, GC, Mt Sinai and Manhasset are the three best publics on LI. Massapequa WM are in the next tier.

GC is very good, but I think Manhasset is special this year. Haven't seen Mt Sinai play, Massapequa is good, WM is very good.

How can you in your right mind say GC is very good and not mention Smithtown West. To me that invalidates your opinion. Probably the best game on the island so far and it was the first day. Yes, St A's vs Manhasset game was just as good, maybe better, probably better because it was regulation.

I may be favoring West to much but to not mention Smithtown West come on! I have them as my dark horse #1 in Suffolk. True I am not sure West will get past Melville after they spank the living $hit out of West Islip. Making this week's West Islip game meaningless. But Ward Melville Spanking Smithtown would diminish GC and Pequa pedestal. Oh, and I dont see Pequa destroying Farmingdale either. Not sure why you are counting out Syosset also.

Mt Sinai is a very good team, not tested. But regardless if they win states this year. I hope they reach out and play some stud teams next year. SWR playing Harborfields, then GC and then Mt Sinai will give everyone a better picture of those small schools. Looking forward to those games.

Any given day!

I saw West Islip scrimmage CSH and was unimpressed. if that is representative of Suffolk A, Suffolk A is down this year. good luck either way. Just saying. How did West Islip vs. Massapequ scrimmage go. I know scrimmages, but just curios.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw West Islip scrimmage CSH and was unimpressed. if that is representative of Suffolk A, Suffolk A is down this year. good luck either way. Just saying. How did West Islip vs. Massapequ scrimmage go. I know scrimmages, but just curios.

Saw them scrimmage Syossett early in season and syossett easily “won”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw West Islip scrimmage CSH and was unimpressed. if that is representative of Suffolk A, Suffolk A is down this year. good luck either way. Just saying. How did West Islip vs. Massapequ scrimmage go. I know scrimmages, but just curios.

Saw them scrimmage Syossett early in season and syossett easily “won”

one "t", but remember syo doesn't like to talk about scrimmages

Harborfields nor SWR wil provide much resistance vs. Mt. shocked if either game is within 5 goals... harborfields and SWR probably a close game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harborfields nor SWR wil provide much resistance vs. Mt. shocked if either game is within 5 goals... harborfields and SWR probably a close game.

Does Comsewogue have a shot against MS?

no

Originally Posted by Anonymous

no

Wow, no respect whatsover. Didnt MS barely beat them last year 4-3 in OT. I believe they were losing to comsewogue at one point 3-0. Its virtually the same matchup this year.... I guess we'll see

What happen to West Islip

I missed the Beatdown WM got.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

It looks like one down and I guess one to go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As we have said all winter long WI will dominate Suffolk A with the best attack unit in the league

Maybe you should stop talking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

Dude, WI is so incredibly overrated and SW will get completely smacked by WM. But if either one does beat WM, Pequa is guaranteed a LIC win.

WM will not lose to WI. It won't be obvious at first, they won't feel the hot blade cutting them open. Before anyone realizes it the game will be over and WI will be on the wrong side of the W column (still thinking they can win). WM goalie and offense is much better than WI. Had WM not canceled their Chaminade game Id say Riverhead was prime to knock them off (that 3 game week is tough, smart move). WI will not score more than SW, looking for a shoot out on that one, look for the over. Not sure the outcome of the WM SW, thinking WM pulls it out like usual, again Goalie play is key. But WM is playing SW on dead legs and SW legs will be fresh as daises.

Then again I could be dead wrong, this is HS sports. That's why they play the games.

Knock Knock
Who's there?

Knock Knock
Who's there?

Well, its definitely not West Islip!

As stated earlier, WI is very overrated, they will finish behind WM, SW and probably SE.

Well said.I was under the impression that they where going to dominate F/O as well.

What happen to the West Islip strong 2020 group .... Please wake up you guys are average at best without your goalie you would be getting blown out .... How many shots did you take against Ward Melville maybe 9 all game .....

2, really, 2 only 2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

My good man, it is you who needs to pipe down. Ward Melville is the #1 team, until you take them down, it is you who needs to beat them. Not the other way around. (I will say I don't think any of these comments came from a WM or SW family).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Oh my... did we all miss something? Is beating smithtown "who" now considered a big deal? When did they become a powerhouse program? Does WM even consider them a rival? I would think that in order to be considered a rivalry the series would have to be somewhat close. Honest question, does anyone know the all time series record between the two programs?

Maybe WM wins the game maybe they do not but I would bet WM will be in the championship game. I am no expert but I have been around a long time and I would not bet against Melville. Didn't SW go into last years game with a lot of hype and great expectations? Where did the finish the season?

Good luck to SW maybe this is their year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Teams have to beat SW in April to be validated as a good lacrosse team? How did that work out last season for you? Apparently HHE didn't get the memo. How about this - why don't you (SW) beat someone when it matters, in the playoffs, instead of chirping during the regular season. See, here's the thing; SW is as good today as they will be all season, but your future playoff opponents will improve week after week. Any team is beatable in this conference in a playoff elimination game. Be careful declaring yourself as the team to beat in April when you haven't actually won anything yet. Keep practicing hard and light a candle every day and pray that your FOGO stays healthy.

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Teams have to beat SW in April to be validated as a good lacrosse team? How did that work out last season for you? Apparently HHE didn't get the memo. How about this - why don't you (SW) beat someone when it matters, in the playoffs, instead of chirping during the regular season. See, here's the thing; SW is as good today as they will be all season, but your future playoff opponents will improve week after week. Any team is beatable in this conference in a playoff elimination game. Be careful declaring yourself as the team to beat in April when you haven't actually won anything yet. Keep practicing hard and light a candle every day and pray that your FOGO stays healthy.

You sound nervous, and should be!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Teams have to beat SW in April to be validated as a good lacrosse team? How did that work out last season for you? Apparently HHE didn't get the memo. How about this - why don't you (SW) beat someone when it matters, in the playoffs, instead of chirping during the regular season. See, here's the thing; SW is as good today as they will be all season, but your future playoff opponents will improve week after week. Any team is beatable in this conference in a playoff elimination game. Be careful declaring yourself as the team to beat in April when you haven't actually won anything yet. Keep practicing hard and light a candle every day and pray that your FOGO stays healthy.

You sound nervous, and should be!

Yes, I'm terrified over the results of a high school lacrosse game. Actually, I don't play for either team so I'm not really that nervous about it at all. Live vicariously through your kid much?

Chaminade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

Come on.... you know Mt Sinai is the best because we have the best attack, because I said so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else smells a overrated WM team? They may not have lost yet, but are not playing with dominance. Will most likely lose to WI and will certainly lose to SW. And why do we see their goalie stats in every box score when he’s not doing anything special? Don’t get it? The only strong part of their game is the two defenders and one good attackman.

You "Don't get it".... Exactly, you don't get it. You know nothing and should learn to keep your ignorant thoughts to yourself.

You should pipe down, you beat West Islip, when you beat Smithtown West you can brag, until then I would focus on a very improbable feat.

Teams have to beat SW in April to be validated as a good lacrosse team? How did that work out last season for you? Apparently HHE didn't get the memo. How about this - why don't you (SW) beat someone when it matters, in the playoffs, instead of chirping during the regular season. See, here's the thing; SW is as good today as they will be all season, but your future playoff opponents will improve week after week. Any team is beatable in this conference in a playoff elimination game. Be careful declaring yourself as the team to beat in April when you haven't actually won anything yet. Keep practicing hard and light a candle every day and pray that your FOGO stays healthy.

You sound nervous, and should be!

Yes, I'm terrified over the results of a high school lacrosse game. Actually, I don't play for either team so I'm not really that nervous about it at all. Live vicariously through your kid much?

Sure you don’t, overrated WM dad, better start getting the excuses ready , hammerhead

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade

Huge win for the Flyers, shocking.

What happened to to overhyped St Anthony’s superstars?? Hmmmm......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

I get where you're going. But top two teams are far from set. Im not sure WI will get past a few more schools left on their schedule and I doubt SW or WM will go undefeated. But that doesn't mean a hill a beans right now, so many changes to power points with all the losses and wins.

But how about those teams Upstate teams, only 3 game sin but watch out for Nisky, West Genee, FM, Corning?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

I get where you're going. But top two teams are far from set. Im not sure WI will get past a few more schools left on their schedule and I doubt SW or WM will go undefeated. But that doesn't mean a hill a beans right now, so many changes to power points with all the losses and wins.

But how about those teams Upstate teams, only 3 game sin but watch out for Nisky, West Genee, FM, Corning?

Upstate is weak

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

Come on.... you know Mt Sinai is the best because we have the best attack, because I said so.

We'd love to see where this team would be without your three stud transfers. One from RP, another from SWR and the last from Mattituck. Yea, tough times when you have a stacked team just handed to you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade

Huge win for the Flyers, shocking.

That's why you play the games, not sure which is worse the football team losing 2 games or lax losing last night. What a punch to the gut, both teams should have went undefeated.

Where'd that Comsewogue guy go? I stand by my "no chance" claim. sorry, nothing against the wogue and not a MS supporter either. just the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2 Teams are Set - Sorry to WM fans, but think this is year West Beats them at the End
No matter, no one is close to those 2
Let the fighting between 3-12 Take place. Here's a shot at playoff seeding
3)west I
4)Bayshore
5)Riverhead
6)Connetquot
7)Sachem East
8)Northport
9)Hills east
10)Smithtown east
11)Sachem N
12) Winner of Floyd/WW Game

This is A Only

West Islip will be back to the county championship they are still figuring out the talent pool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade

Huge win for the Flyers, shocking.

Not really. The program is run better. And after these two years, it won't even be close. The St. Anthonys JVa is okay and the freshman team did have coaches until after tryouts.

CHAMINADE

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade

Huge win for the Flyers, shocking.

Not really. The program is run better. And after these two years, it won't even be close. The St. Anthonys JVa is okay and the freshman team did have coaches until after tryouts.

Shocking - give me a break. Nobody gives Chaminade any credit. They have some great players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

2019
1) SW
1) Chaminade
1) Massapequa
4) GC
5) WI

2020
1) SA
1) Chaminade
3) SE
3) WM
5) Roslyn
6) Wantagh
7) EI
8) Mt Sinai

2021
1) SA
2) Chaminade
3) Chaminade
4) Chaminade

2022
1) Chaminade
2) SA
3)
4)

If I missed anyone, sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

2019
1) SW
1) Chaminade
1) Massapequa
4) GC
5) WI

2020
1) SA
1) Chaminade
3) SE
3) WM
5) Roslyn
6) Wantagh
7) EI
8) Mt Sinai

2021
1) SA
2) Chaminade
3) Chaminade
4) Chaminade

2022
1) Chaminade
2) SA
3)
4)

If I missed anyone, sorry.

I think we could add the Bay Shore faceoff kid to 2021 he's tiny but quick.
The Islip faceoff kid I think is 2022.
Riverhead kid is also very good for 2019 so is Ward Melville

GC kid beat SW and Massapeua

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC kid beat SW and Massapeua

He should be 1st team LI for sure!

Just read this on Inside Lacrosse write up of the St. A/ Cham game "Despite being just a sophomore,****** was the only one who was consistently able to take advantage of his matchups and create offense." Are you freaking kidding??? the kid is supposed to be a senior and they're saying only a sophomore???? What is wrong with this sport and shame on Inside Lacrosse!!! BTW I'm a big fan of the kid, great player, but c'mon, really??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

2019
1) SW
1) Chaminade
1) Massapequa
4) GC
5) WI

2020
1) SA
1) Chaminade
3) SE
3) WM
5) Roslyn
6) Wantagh
7) EI
8) Mt Sinai

2021
1) SA
2) Chaminade
3) Chaminade
4) Chaminade

2022
1) Chaminade
2) SA
3)
4)

If I missed anyone, sorry.

Port Jeff has 2019 and 2020 that are excellent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC kid beat SW and Massapeua

He should be 1st team LI for sure!

2019

Cham
GC
Pequa
SW
WI

The only one who will be invited to UA All America games is Cham, since another fogo has already been chosen first wave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

2019
1) SW
1) Chaminade
1) Massapequa
4) GC
5) WI

2020
1) SA
1) Chaminade
3) SE
3) WM
5) Roslyn
6) Wantagh
7) EI
8) Mt Sinai

2021
1) SA
2) Chaminade
3) Chaminade
4) Chaminade

2022
1) Chaminade
2) SA
3)
4)

If I missed anyone, sorry.

Manhasset 2020 could be 3/4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read this on Inside Lacrosse write up of the St. A/ Cham game "Despite being just a sophomore,****** was the only one who was consistently able to take advantage of his matchups and create offense." Are you freaking kidding??? the kid is supposed to be a senior and they're saying only a sophomore???? What is wrong with this sport and shame on Inside Lacrosse!!! BTW I'm a big fan of the kid, great player, but c'mon, really??

I agree, at least say what age the kid is. He is a special player, but be truthful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

The Cham 2020 is not the best, not by a long shot. I've seem him be beat good by many of the other top 2020. He is hot and cold, and a baby when he loses, pretends to be hurt. The ST. A 2020 is much better than him.

Smithtown West will go through a gauntlet the next few games. This should prove to be a precursor to the playoffs. I think there will be some surprises the next few weeks.

The SW matches could settle some of the above Fogo debate. Or not?

For Suffolk playoffs how many Divisional wins do you need? 8?
Site has 12 teams, but if 12 don't qualify will it drop to 11 as in years past.

Some schools that went in hopeful aren't looking to good in getting a post season nod.

Smith East
Hills east
Commack
Northport

Could it be possible only 8 teams qualify this year.

Could Connetquot or Sachem North be the surprise team of this year?

Exciting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

The Cham 2020 is not the best, not by a long shot. I've seem him be beat good by many of the other top 2020. He is hot and cold, and a baby when he loses, pretends to be hurt. The ST. A 2020 is much better than him.

Totally disagree with your analysis. Cham kid definitely better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read this on Inside Lacrosse write up of the St. A/ Cham game "Despite being just a sophomore,****** was the only one who was consistently able to take advantage of his matchups and create offense." Are you freaking kidding??? the kid is supposed to be a senior and they're saying only a sophomore???? What is wrong with this sport and shame on Inside Lacrosse!!! BTW I'm a big fan of the kid, great player, but c'mon, really??

Is the kid a Senior or a Sophomore? If he is currently in 10th grade he is a soph. Just because you want to out a kid, it's not going to happen. Worry about yours, this kids not taking anything away from him....is he?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

The Cham 2020 is not the best, not by a long shot. I've seem him be beat good by many of the other top 2020. He is hot and cold, and a baby when he loses, pretends to be hurt. The ST. A 2020 is much better than him.

Totally disagree with your analysis. Cham kid definitely better.

He's not bad on the field, but not consistent at the X. I've seen him go against the other 2020s from the Island, and NYC. St. A kid is quicker than him. He's also been beat by a couple others, and has also beaten them. I wouldn't really say that any of the 2020s have truly separated themselves at the X. I would say Cham kid is the best field play of the bunch however.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

The Cham 2020 is not the best, not by a long shot. I've seem him be beat good by many of the other top 2020. He is hot and cold, and a baby when he loses, pretends to be hurt. The ST. A 2020 is much better than him.

Totally disagree with your analysis. Cham kid definitely better.

He's not bad on the field, but not consistent at the X. I've seen him go against the other 2020s from the Island, and NYC. St. A kid is quicker than him. He's also been beat by a couple others, and has also beaten them. I wouldn't really say that any of the 2020s have truly separated themselves at the X. I would say Cham kid is the best field play of the bunch however.

Throughout these threads all I see is because they go to private school that seems to make them the best. Throughout the league their are some great FO specialists who don't get the credit because they are not on these teams. Many schools have sophomore and freshman starting at X and doing a great job against committed seniors. These kids are also "true Freshman and true Sophomores" The private schools are very good, but let's give some love to the kids whose parents chose to send them to public school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read this on Inside Lacrosse write up of the St. A/ Cham game "Despite being just a sophomore,****** was the only one who was consistently able to take advantage of his matchups and create offense." Are you freaking kidding??? the kid is supposed to be a senior and they're saying only a sophomore???? What is wrong with this sport and shame on Inside Lacrosse!!! BTW I'm a big fan of the kid, great player, but c'mon, really??

Is the kid a Senior or a Sophomore? If he is currently in 10th grade he is a soph. Just because you want to out a kid, it's not going to happen. Worry about yours, this kids not taking anything away from him....is he?

He’s a senphmore 😂 somebody needs to be able to buy beer for the other freshman lax bros come college!

West Islip vs Riverhead today what are your thougths

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the season at the halfway point, any thoughts on the faceoff position?
Any new people making an impact at X?

Many good face-off kids on LI. 2020 Chaminade kid is the best on LI. 2019 open for discussion

The Cham 2020 is not the best, not by a long shot. I've seem him be beat good by many of the other top 2020. He is hot and cold, and a baby when he loses, pretends to be hurt. The ST. A 2020 is much better than him.

Totally disagree with your analysis. Cham kid definitely better.

He's not bad on the field, but not consistent at the X. I've seen him go against the other 2020s from the Island, and NYC. St. A kid is quicker than him. He's also been beat by a couple others, and has also beaten them. I wouldn't really say that any of the 2020s have truly separated themselves at the X. I would say Cham kid is the best field play of the bunch however.

Throughout these threads all I see is because they go to private school that seems to make them the best. Throughout the league their are some great FO specialists who don't get the credit because they are not on these teams. Many schools have sophomore and freshman starting at X and doing a great job against committed seniors. These kids are also "true Freshman and true Sophomores" The private schools are very good, but let's give some love to the kids whose parents chose to send them to public school.

No one is saying a player is better simply because of the school they attend. There are individual players who have proven themselves on a national level during the summer circuit and game after game at the high school level. That is why they may be considered better on an individual basis, then other players. If they attend a “private” school so be it. When you talk about “private” schools on LI, you really mean Catholic. This is not Maryland. To insinuate that because a kid goes to Chaminade or St As, they are not a “true freshman” or “true sophomore” is ludicrous. Obviously there are some holdbacks, but 90% of the kids are in the appropriate grade for their age. There of plenty of public school holdbacks too. But again, this is not Maryland so the issue is minor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will go through a gauntlet the next few games. This should prove to be a precursor to the playoffs. I think there will be some surprises the next few weeks.

The SW matches could settle some of the above Fogo debate. Or not?

For Suffolk playoffs how many Divisional wins do you need? 8?
Site has 12 teams, but if 12 don't qualify will it drop to 11 as in years past.

Some schools that went in hopeful aren't looking to good in getting a post season nod.

Smith East
Hills east
Commack
Northport

Could it be possible only 8 teams qualify this year.

Could Connetquot or Sachem North be the surprise team of this year?

Exciting

What happened to Hills East and Northport? Will they even make the playoffs this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip vs Riverhead today what are your thougths

Like Frankie Valli said "So close, so close and yet so farrrrrr...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will go through a gauntlet the next few games. This should prove to be a precursor to the playoffs. I think there will be some surprises the next few weeks.

The SW matches could settle some of the above Fogo debate. Or not?

For Suffolk playoffs how many Divisional wins do you need? 8?
Site has 12 teams, but if 12 don't qualify will it drop to 11 as in years past.

Some schools that went in hopeful aren't looking to good in getting a post season nod.

Smith East
Hills east
Commack
Northport

Could it be possible only 8 teams qualify this year.

Could Connetquot or Sachem North be the surprise team of this year?

Exciting

What happened to Hills East and Northport? Will they even make the playoffs this year?

Smithtown East needs four more wins for playoffs. I only see 2 definite, but anything is possible

Hills East with only 3 league wins needs 5 more for playoffs. North Babylon and Floyd are 2 wins, maybe Sachem East. Looking for 2 more wins from Commack, Northport, Smithtown East who will all need the win also.

Northport needs 3 they have 3 doable in Sachem North, Hills east and Huntington. Maybe pick off a distracted Bayshore team at the end.

Sachem North is in, dont see 4-3 Sachem East getting 8 divisional wins.

Commack only has 2 league wins, needs to run the table, ain't happening.

Floyd needs 3 wins for playoffs, I only see 2 weak schedules never help. Smith and Hills east games will show Suffolk Power points are full of $hit. Those games will show Floyd never belong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip vs Riverhead today what are your thougths

Like Frankie Valli said "So close, so close and yet so farrrrrr...

Agree, West Islip farrrrrr..... from being a good team

The CSH kid(s) should be in the top F/O conversation. Both 20's. The one going to BU is the stronger of the two, but both very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip vs Riverhead today what are your thougths

Like Frankie Valli said "So close, so close and yet so farrrrrr...

Agree, West Islip farrrrrr..... from being a good team

I don't like bashing any teams but WI parents are very tough to listen to and someone has been hyping this years team up for a while now. It has been a long time since WI has had a good team and I don't think they will be in contention this year either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just read this on Inside Lacrosse write up of the St. A/ Cham game "Despite being just a sophomore,****** was the only one who was consistently able to take advantage of his matchups and create offense." Are you freaking kidding??? the kid is supposed to be a senior and they're saying only a sophomore???? What is wrong with this sport and shame on Inside Lacrosse!!! BTW I'm a big fan of the kid, great player, but c'mon, really??

Yes, the deep investigative journalism of Inside Lacrosse is lacking! C'mon, Really? Get over it, if its true, it is what it is.

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Chaminade vs. St. A's chapter 1 can be boiled down to Goalie play. Look forward to Chapter 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip vs Riverhead today what are your thougths

Like Frankie Valli said "So close, so close and yet so farrrrrr...

Agree, West Islip farrrrrr..... from being a good team

Not what that meant! That game proved don't count anyone out! More so, maybe shows resilience, something needed to go the stretch. Tough loss for Riverhead, but for West Islip a win by 1, 5 or 10 is still a win.

WI has a new coach and is still making adjustments and there's a few more tricks up his sleeve plus
a few Pony's still is the stable... Stay tuned...

Wait for the uprising in WI when the 21's start usurping the playing time of internally pumped 20 class...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI has a new coach and is still making adjustments and there's a few more tricks up his sleeve plus
a few Pony's still is the stable... Stay tuned...

Adjustments, heard they are putting a few out to pasture

So.. Pequa fogo makes UA over SW and Cham??? Give me a break!! others are clearly, and proven better. SW will destroy him if they get to meet. He barely went 50% against SE yesterday, thanks to his wings!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid(s) should be in the top F/O conversation. Both 20's. The one going to BU is the stronger of the two, but both very good.

You mean the one who should be a 2019.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

WI will beat SE tomorrow. SW is overrated and scared. Lions are ready to do business

Out to pasture is an under statement just add up the turnovers on the guys they keep out there , maybe put guys who can catch and throw on the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So.. Pequa fogo makes UA over SW and Cham??? Give me a break!! others are clearly, and proven better. SW will destroy him if they get to meet. He barely went 50% against SE yesterday, thanks to his wings!

Congratulations to all who have been named Under Armour All-American.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Out to pasture is an under statement just add up the turnovers on the guys they keep out there , maybe put guys who can catch and throw on the field

What are you talking about?

Down goes Ward Melville....7-5 to Northport

How

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

Thats right!!!! What do you have to say now??? CRICKETS

WM should drop out of those top 25 rankings, should swap with Smithtown West. They're in deep trouble, exposed on several levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM should drop out of those top 25 rankings, should swap with Smithtown West. They're in deep trouble, exposed on several levels.

What happened to the "superstar" goalie? Couldn't save a basketball!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So.. Pequa fogo makes UA over SW and Cham??? Give me a break!! others are clearly, and proven better. SW will destroy him if they get to meet. He barely went 50% against SE yesterday, thanks to his wings!

[ChillLaxin]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will go through a gauntlet the next few games. This should prove to be a precursor to the playoffs. I think there will be some surprises the next few weeks.

The SW matches could settle some of the above Fogo debate. Or not?

For Suffolk playoffs how many Divisional wins do you need? 8?
Site has 12 teams, but if 12 don't qualify will it drop to 11 as in years past.

Some schools that went in hopeful aren't looking to good in getting a post season nod.

Smith East
Hills east
Commack
Northport

Could it be possible only 8 teams qualify this year.

Could Connetquot or Sachem North be the surprise team of this year?

Exciting

What happened to Hills East and Northport? Will they even make the playoffs this year?

Smithtown East needs four more wins for playoffs. I only see 2 definite, but anything is possible

Hills East with only 3 league wins needs 5 more for playoffs. North Babylon and Floyd are 2 wins, maybe Sachem East. Looking for 2 more wins from Commack, Northport, Smithtown East who will all need the win also.

Northport needs 3 they have 3 doable in Sachem North, Hills east and Huntington. Maybe pick off a distracted Bayshore team at the end.

Sachem North is in, dont see 4-3 Sachem East getting 8 divisional wins.

Commack only has 2 league wins, needs to run the table, ain't happening.

Floyd needs 3 wins for playoffs, I only see 2 weak schedules never help. Smith and Hills east games will show Suffolk Power points are full of $hit. Those games will show Floyd never belong.

Surprise Surprise Surprise.

called it, surprises a bound. Way to go Northport, we got our eye on you. Commack, wasnt sure you had it in you, good job, you could play the role of spoiler.

Smithtown East that was one of the posible 3, Sachem East and Floyd proving they are not going anywhere, Hills East just made it real tough on themselves, you needed today.

Won't count Ward Melville out either, remember they lost to Hills in their 9th game last year too. Maybe its wakes them up, scary very scary!!!!

Congratulations to Pequa, fogo, named the best on LI by Under Armor. He will represent LI in the most prestigious game in HS Lacrosse. The experts have chosen him because he is better than the other 2019s. Goodnight.

[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Pequa, fogo, named the best on LI by Under Armor. He will represent LI in the most prestigious game in HS Lacrosse. The experts have chosen him because he is better than the other 2019s. Goodnight.[/quote}

Haha....so true. And he is a great kid also! Congrats!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

Thats right!!!! What do you have to say now??? CRICKETS

Game could of went either way..SW has the fire power that WI didn't but Thoroughbreds still in the staple...just watch you'll see...

St. Anthonys hosting Yorktown today. Over/under?

WI missing there best attackman and player for the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthonys hosting Yorktown today. Over/under?

what time is the game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

Thats right!!!! What do you have to say now??? CRICKETS

Game could of went either way..SW has the fire power that WI didn't but Thoroughbreds still in the staple...just watch you'll see...

Staple or Stable ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

Thats right!!!! What do you have to say now??? CRICKETS

Game could of went either way..SW has the fire power that WI didn't but Thoroughbreds still in the staple...just watch you'll see...

Staple or Stable ?

Oops.....Stable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM should drop out of those top 25 rankings, should swap with Smithtown West. They're in deep trouble, exposed on several levels.

and the world is going to end in 12 years.

Why aren't they coming out?lol

I love the haters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really don't like bashing teams West Islip is 8-1 dominating people so give me a break they are not good ....

Dominating ? you squeeked by Riverhead in OT and you managed a whopping 2 goals against Ward Melville. Get ready for a blow out loss tomorrow. All of the chest pounding done in West Islip will not help the team.

Thats right!!!! What do you have to say now??? CRICKETS

Game could of went either way..SW has the fire power that WI didn't but Thoroughbreds still in the staple...just watch you'll see...

Staple or Stable ?

There are not in the stable they are getting ready to be put to pasture or the glue factory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So.. Pequa fogo makes UA over SW and Cham??? Give me a break!! others are clearly, and proven better. SW will destroy him if they get to meet. He barely went 50% against SE yesterday, thanks to his wings!

Hey SW mom how many of those kids are holdbacks? Sr's born in 2000 and Sophomores in 2002 guess thats better than St A's 2001 Sophomore. Maybe you should play in MD, Texas or Cali.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI missing there best attackman and player for the game

Stop it! Best attackmen? First of all, to be the best you need to step on the field. Second, he should be playing middie not attack.

So when will all the coach bashing start.

Where are those people from SWR, Sayville, or Connetquot. Lets give Northport a few weeks.

Are the Suffolk County Championships being played in Nassau? Why are they going in the wrong direction. They went from Stony Brook to Islip HS to Farmingdale State. You couldnt have you picked a worse $hit-hole. Most HS's are better than Farmingdale.

Who is in charge of this? Did this just sell out ot he club? Why is the venue getting worse and worse. Why not Suffolk CC. Why the Farmingdale State.

Then looking further ahead, why does Sect 3, 4, 5 and 6 get to play their state semi final at the same location as the State Championship. (not to mention Sect 6 and 5 play their regional games there).

Championship field should have either both Semifinals at it or none...

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So.. Pequa fogo makes UA over SW and Cham??? Give me a break!! others are clearly, and proven better. SW will destroy him if they get to meet. He barely went 50% against SE yesterday, thanks to his wings!

Hey SW mom how many of those kids are holdbacks? Sr's born in 2000 and Sophomores in 2002 guess thats better than St A's 2001 Sophomore. Maybe you should play in MD, Texas or Cali.

Please clarify this statement.

WM had a bad day. It happens to many great teams. Make no mistake. WM will win the County. Will not be close.

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

Enough already. Your inferiority complex is is destroying your player’s accomplishments and reputation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI missing there best attackman and player for the game

Stop it! Best attackmen? First of all, to be the best you need to step on the field. Second, he should be playing middie not attack.

Kids hurt give it a break pal.. and he is the best on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

Now that would be a marquee matchup!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

Goes back to UA should be 2019 accomplishments not summer or privious meetings. Previous goes to preseason, the season has started and the kids have played many against each other GC kid got robbed beat the top 2 fogos fair and square. Shame on UA. but UA has been a bought product for awhile now as evident by the summer teams. Lots of kids you wernt picked and a few who should have never been on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI missing there best attackman and player for the game

Stop it! Best attackmen? First of all, to be the best you need to step on the field. Second, he should be playing middie not attack.

Kids hurt give it a break pal.. and he is the best on the team.

We don't need to continue this, Pole and Goalie are the best on team, isn't even the best Jr..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

It is a lot of years, I would not snooze on the rematch. I remember years when Chaminade was supposed to cream St. Anthony's and St. Anthony's still came out ahead in a game. Its not how you start but how you finish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

Goes back to UA should be 2019 accomplishments not summer or privious meetings. Previous goes to preseason, the season has started and the kids have played many against each other GC kid got robbed beat the top 2 fogos fair and square. Shame on UA. but UA has been a bought product for awhile now as evident by the summer teams. Lots of kids you wernt picked and a few who should have never been on the team.

You didn’t watch the GC Pequa game. Or your lacrosse knowledge is limited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

Goes back to UA should be 2019 accomplishments not summer or privious meetings. Previous goes to preseason, the season has started and the kids have played many against each other GC kid got robbed beat the top 2 fogos fair and square. Shame on UA. but UA has been a bought product for awhile now as evident by the summer teams. Lots of kids you wernt picked and a few who should have never been on the team.

Agreed!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

Why is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

Why is that?

Friars handled GC easily in a scrimmage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC destroys SWR behind the best fogo on LI(according to Newsday not me). GC is the real deal, probably the best public team on the Island.

What would be the best game of the year will never happen: Garden City v Chaminade. They both play a similar schedule but refuse to play each other.

Why is that?

Friars handled GC easily in a scrimmage

Yes, and I could say hat was then this is now, but instead will say at this point I. The season being where things are and as you all know the proximity, it would be an overly hyped game. A game would turn out to be a blow out.

The Woodstick in Nassau and the Smithtown West vs Ward Melville game in Suffolk are the Marquee games we have now.

Still think is Bull Siht that West goes to Patriots. That schedule system in sect Xi needs to be revamped, has no place in sports, fairness in sport would dictate each team is allowed a home game when played in consecutive years.

Wantagh CSH game will be another telling game.
How does this one play out on paper,. I can't find a favorite here. CSH seems to be the favorite but I keep hearing Wantagh.

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM should drop out of those top 25 rankings, should swap with Smithtown West. They're in deep trouble, exposed on several levels.

How does Northport beat WM with their horrible coaching. WM must have been missing some players. Northport has talent but they have 2 retired teachers coaching who think they are still in the 90s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh CSH game will be another telling game.
How does this one play out on paper,. I can't find a favorite here. CSH seems to be the favorite but I keep hearing Wantagh.

Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

The SW parent complaining about WM hosting the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

The SW parent complaining about WM hosting the game

Nope, wasn't a SW parent just someone who sees the injustice. Since Lax Power went dark I use Newsday to see LI year over year results and 3 of the last four year's the games between the 2 were played at Melville. with is that about?

Your comment of win and next year you host is exactly what the problem is, not a solution. Also not entirely accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM should drop out of those top 25 rankings, should swap with Smithtown West. They're in deep trouble, exposed on several levels.

How does Northport beat WM with their horrible coaching. WM must have been missing some players. Northport has talent but they have 2 retired teachers coaching who think they are still in the 90s

Any given day anyone can win or lose, there is enough talent to go around. Surprises were called and I am sure there will be a few more throughout the Playoffs.

Garden City and Mt Sinai are the only undefeated teams. Wonder if they will go the distance.

LILJ top 10

Top 10 Boys Varsity Lacrosse Teams:
Mt. Sinai
Chaminade
Garden City (fip flop)
St. Anthony’s (flip flop)
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Manhasset (Could jump to 4)
Massapequa
Shoreham Wading River (Should not be in the top 15)
West Islip

In the conversation:
Cold Spring Harbor (could be in top 10)
Syosset (could be top 10)
Bay Shore (could be top 10)
Comeswogue (not sure why in the conversation)
Harborfields (not sure why in the conversation)
Wantagh (gotta get passed CSH before even being considered)
South Side (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)
Riverhead (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)

When you win the last game of the year, you are #1 ! The rest are not! These polls are meaningless and a waste of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

The SW parent complaining about WM hosting the game

Nope, wasn't a SW parent just someone who sees the injustice. Since Lax Power went dark I use Newsday to see LI year over year results and 3 of the last four year's the games between the 2 were played at Melville. with is that about?

Your comment of win and next year you host is exactly what the problem is, not a solution. Also not entirely accurate.

Just curious, where have the West Islip vs Ward Melville games been played over the past four years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ top 10

Top 10 Boys Varsity Lacrosse Teams:
Mt. Sinai
Chaminade
Garden City (fip flop)
St. Anthony’s (flip flop)
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Manhasset (Could jump to 4)
Massapequa
Shoreham Wading River (Should not be in the top 15)
West Islip

In the conversation:
Cold Spring Harbor (could be in top 10)
Syosset (could be top 10)
Bay Shore (could be top 10)
Comeswogue (not sure why in the conversation)
Harborfields (not sure why in the conversation)
Wantagh (gotta get passed CSH before even being considered)
South Side (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)
Riverhead (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)

This is what the Top 10 should be:

Chaminade
St. Anthony's
Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Massapequa
Mt. Sinai
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ top 10

Top 10 Boys Varsity Lacrosse Teams:
Mt. Sinai
Chaminade
Garden City (fip flop)
St. Anthony’s (flip flop)
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Manhasset (Could jump to 4)
Massapequa
Shoreham Wading River (Should not be in the top 15)
West Islip

In the conversation:
Cold Spring Harbor (could be in top 10)
Syosset (could be top 10)
Bay Shore (could be top 10)
Comeswogue (not sure why in the conversation)
Harborfields (not sure why in the conversation)
Wantagh (gotta get passed CSH before even being considered)
South Side (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)
Riverhead (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)

This is what the Top 10 should be:

Chaminade
St. Anthony's
Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Massapequa
Mt. Sinai
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

On the bubble: West Islip, Wantagh, Bay Shore, Chaminade JV A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

The SW parent complaining about WM hosting the game

Nope, wasn't a SW parent just someone who sees the injustice. Since Lax Power went dark I use Newsday to see LI year over year results and 3 of the last four year's the games between the 2 were played at Melville. with is that about?

Your comment of win and next year you host is exactly what the problem is, not a solution. Also not entirely accurate.

Just curious, where have the West Islip vs Ward Melville games been played over the past four years?

How about the Smithtown East Vs Sachem North games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you win the last game of the year, you are #1 ! The rest are not! These polls are meaningless and a waste of time.

Not necessarily meaningless nor a waste of time as we are talking about them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So win the Suffolk County Championship and you will host the game next year. It's that simple

What are you talking about, and why are you talking next year?

The SW parent complaining about WM hosting the game

Nope, wasn't a SW parent just someone who sees the injustice. Since Lax Power went dark I use Newsday to see LI year over year results and 3 of the last four year's the games between the 2 were played at Melville. with is that about?

Your comment of win and next year you host is exactly what the problem is, not a solution. Also not entirely accurate.

Just curious, where have the West Islip vs Ward Melville games been played over the past four years?

Exactly, there are numerous, this one gets the attention, system has got to change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ top 10

Top 10 Boys Varsity Lacrosse Teams:
Mt. Sinai
Chaminade
Garden City (fip flop)
St. Anthony’s (flip flop)
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Manhasset (Could jump to 4)
Massapequa
Shoreham Wading River (Should not be in the top 15)
West Islip

In the conversation:
Cold Spring Harbor (could be in top 10)
Syosset (could be top 10)
Bay Shore (could be top 10)
Comeswogue (not sure why in the conversation)
Harborfields (not sure why in the conversation)
Wantagh (gotta get passed CSH before even being considered)
South Side (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)
Riverhead (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)

This is what the Top 10 should be:

Chaminade
St. Anthony's
Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Massapequa
Mt. Sinai
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

On the bubble: West Islip, Wantagh, Bay Shore, Chaminade JV A

Good one with JV A. Although Chaminade's JV A is no where near West Islip or Bay Shore. Along with that, sorry I got no love for Wantagh, Don't belong with West Islip and Bay Shore. Riverhead should be there instead. Mt Sinai should be above Massapequa and has got to beat SWR by 10 goals before I give any more credence to them. CSH and Syosset would lose to West Islip, Bay Shore and Riverhead. I know the Farmingdale game is only one game but Farmingdale dropped 10+goals on Syosset (13-11) vs 3 goals on West Islip (15-3) that's a bit telling for CSH and Syo.

Chaminade
St Anthony's

Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Mt Sinai
Massapequa

West Islip
Bay Shore
Riverhead

Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

SouthSide (Big game against Manhasset)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When you win the last game of the year, you are #1 ! The rest are not! These polls are meaningless and a waste of time.

Again, not entirely correct. There can only be one #1, but there are about 4-5 teams that will win their last game.
Parochial
A
B
C
D

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Commack goes on a streak
Whitman should win
Hills east should pick up a win today
Lindy starts looking at how they can make the playoff push after today's win
Bay Shore Should win not sure score in this one means a thing
West Islip Should win, score in this one could be telling.
Sachem North needs to win convincingly, a loss makes things real interesting

Ward Melville vs Connetquot could be the most interesting of the day

Mt Sinai will probably blow out Sayville by 12 but tomorrow is a better day for Div II

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Stop with your BS everyone knows this is not coming from a 2020 parent. At least not from one that still plays in NY.

Stop your running about West Islip.Maybe I'll hit Lotto

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Lost in OT to SE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Lost in OT to SE.

See dude, you put bad juju on your team. Namaste, mofo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Lost in OT to SE.

WI goalie stood on his head. SE very good fogo and defense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Commack goes on a streak
Whitman should win
Hills east should pick up a win today
Lindy starts looking at how they can make the playoff push after today's win
Bay Shore Should win not sure score in this one means a thing
West Islip Should win, score in this one could be telling.
Sachem North needs to win convincingly, a loss makes things real interesting

Ward Melville vs Connetquot could be the most interesting of the day

Mt Sinai will probably blow out Sayville by 12 but tomorrow is a better day for Div II

Gotta win the should've games.
Knew it could be close but did think Smithown Easy would win. Way to go East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch for West Islip with a big week, the 2020 kids are stepping up

Lost in OT to SE.

WI goalie stood on his head. SE very good fogo and defense

Reffing was awful against SE! I have never before saw a kid whine to a ref and get call overturned. They should be ashamed! But even with that they could not win the game! FYI: It's illegal to lay on the ball!

Big games this week:
WM vs SE I'm going with WM by 1-2
GC vs Set , GC by 4
MS vs SWR, MS by 4

Did horses leave the stable?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did horses leave the stable?

they were in the stapler.

Smithtown West will beat WM easily tomorrow on their home field. WM will be watching a car crash that they can’t stop. A long time coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will beat WM easily tomorrow on their home field. WM will be watching a car crash that they can’t stop. A long time coming.

No kid is up this early on break, I don't think anyone on Smithtown West is this classless. Ward Melville is smart enough to know this.
Today should be a good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will beat WM easily tomorrow on their home field. WM will be watching a car crash that they can’t stop. A long time coming.

No kid is up this early on break, I don't think anyone on Smithtown West is this classless. Ward Melville is smart enough to know this.
Today should be a good game.

Harborfields or Comsewogue good game, called it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will beat WM easily tomorrow on their home field. WM will be watching a car crash that they can’t stop. A long time coming.

No kid is up this early on break, I don't think anyone on Smithtown West is this classless. Ward Melville is smart enough to know this.
Today should be a good game.

Harborfields or Comsewogue good game, called it!

HF up against it all season w/ a pole on the FO. Gonna be a tough run through the playoffs but they're holding as strong as they can thus far

We'll see how the car crash ends tomorrow do you have an eye opener coming your way. With Crickets at the end of your statement because you have nothing to say except maybe we'll get him in playoffs stop your whining

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big games this week:
WM vs SE I'm going with WM by 1-2
GC vs Set , GC by 4
MS vs SWR, MS by 4

Me thinks your fingers screwed up a few times (SE and MS)
WM vs SW (not SE. Not sure how that game will go. Close game anyone could win or a blow out by either team.
GC vs Set, for $hits and giggles would love an OT game, would move Set up a bit, and lax off The rankings for StA and SW
MS by no less than 7 really looking at about a 10 GD. 16-9, 16-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big games this week:
WM vs SE I'm going with WM by 1-2
GC vs Set , GC by 4
MS vs SWR, MS by 4

Me thinks your fingers screwed up a few times (SE and MS)
WM vs SW (not SE. Not sure how that game will go. Close game anyone could win or a blow out by either team.
GC vs Set, for $hits and giggles would love an OT game, would move Set up a bit, and lax off The rankings for StA and SW
MS by no less than 7 really looking at about a 10 GD. 16-9, 16-6

I think a close game favors Patriots, a blow out favors Bulls. A WM blow out would shock me, either team putting in 10 goals puts everyone on notice. An OT game could be epic. As long as it isn't 5-5

SW with the win...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW with the win...

Haven't seen the score, but anyone that has watched the scores and/or either team play this year wouldn't have thought otherwise. Am I missing something here? This is SW year I think.

Score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Score?

11-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SW with the win...

Haven't seen the score, but anyone that has watched the scores and/or either team play this year wouldn't have thought otherwise. Am I missing something here? This is SW year I think.

maybe a MS SW scrimmage to prep for playoff should be worked on now.

8-2 half with a 5 goal 2nd stanza for the Bulls Impressive, but equally as impressive is a 3rd Qtr turn around for the Patriots.

Northport takes down WI.....6-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport takes down WI.....6-3

Out coached.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LILJ top 10

Top 10 Boys Varsity Lacrosse Teams:
Mt. Sinai
Chaminade
Garden City (fip flop)
St. Anthony’s (flip flop)
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Manhasset (Could jump to 4)
Massapequa
Shoreham Wading River (Should not be in the top 15)
West Islip

In the conversation:
Cold Spring Harbor (could be in top 10)
Syosset (could be top 10)
Bay Shore (could be top 10)
Comeswogue (not sure why in the conversation)
Harborfields (not sure why in the conversation)
Wantagh (gotta get passed CSH before even being considered)
South Side (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)
Riverhead (Should be ahead of Comeswogue - SWR)

This is what the Top 10 should be:

Chaminade
St. Anthony's
Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Massapequa
Mt. Sinai
Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

On the bubble: West Islip, Wantagh, Bay Shore, Chaminade JV A

Good one with JV A. Although Chaminade's JV A is no where near West Islip or Bay Shore. Along with that, sorry I got no love for Wantagh, Don't belong with West Islip and Bay Shore. Riverhead should be there instead. Mt Sinai should be above Massapequa and has got to beat SWR by 10 goals before I give any more credence to them. CSH and Syosset would lose to West Islip, Bay Shore and Riverhead. I know the Farmingdale game is only one game but Farmingdale dropped 10+goals on Syosset (13-11) vs 3 goals on West Islip (15-3) that's a bit telling for CSH and Syo.

Chaminade
St Anthony's

Garden City
Smithtown West
Manhasset
Ward Melville
Mt Sinai
Massapequa

West Islip
Bay Shore
Riverhead

Cold Spring Harbor
Syosset

SouthSide (Big game against Manhasset)

I know I know scrimmages don’t count but was at the West Islip v syossett scrimmage and syossett was the much better team, score wasn’t close

Tough to win with the amount of turnovers and less then 12 shots does not matter who is coaching , WI is just not that good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough to win with the amount of turnovers and less then 12 shots does not matter who is coaching , WI is just not that good

WI goalie is a stud

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough to win with the amount of turnovers and less then 12 shots does not matter who is coaching , WI is just not that good

WI has had to many kids out with injuries, sickness,etc.
Young guns just aren't cutting it ...
Put the seniors in before its too late !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough to win with the amount of turnovers and less then 12 shots does not matter who is coaching , WI is just not that good

Can't wait to see him at the next level at Yale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough to win with the amount of turnovers and less then 12 shots does not matter who is coaching , WI is just not that good

WI has had to many kids out with injuries, sickness,etc.
Young guns just aren't cutting it ...
Put the seniors in before its too late !

No excuses...

SE looking improved. Dominant win over Quot, After a close battle over WI. Kids really stepping up!

Any update on MS vs SWR??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any update on MS vs SWR??

Newsday has it 14-9 MS

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Chaminade and Massapequa. Chaminade beat St. Anthony's who claim they destroyed them in a scrimmage who beat Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Chaminade and Massapequa. Chaminade beat St. Anthony's who claim they destroyed them in a scrimmage who beat Manhasset

When did GC beat Chaminade? Guess I missed that one. I didn’t miss Manhasset beating GC though.

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

keep dreaming Mom.. MS handled them easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Chaminade and Massapequa. Chaminade beat St. Anthony's who claim they destroyed them in a scrimmage who beat Manhasset

When did GC beat Chaminade? Guess I missed that one. I didn’t miss Manhasset beating GC though.

Beat GC last year too, just not in the right game.

Chaminade
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Mt Sinai
Massapequa
Bay Shore
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead
SouthSide
Wantagh
Harborfields

here my top 15 on LI, some have had game they'd like back but this is how I think Li lax rounds out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Mt Sinai
Massapequa
Bay Shore
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead
SouthSide
Wantagh
Harborfields

here my top 15 on LI, some have had game they'd like back but this is how I think Li lax rounds out

What about Northport?

What happen to the WI chatter i guess those loud parents will wait for the summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

keep dreaming Mom.. MS handled them easily.

Not on Face offs! Sorry Brown commit. Politics can only get you so far. Not fun riding pine in college. Face offs will be an issue for MS if they make it out of Suffolk!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Mt Sinai
Massapequa
Bay Shore
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead
SouthSide
Wantagh
Harborfields

here my top 15 on LI, some have had game they'd like back but this is how I think Li lax rounds out

What about Northport?

(Not sarcasm)
Close, very close, definitely in the next bunch. A very talented bunch, not sure if the same as the above teams. Some good recent wins under the belt, make up for some of those early loses. You are on a roll and are being watched. Big game against North, still don't think you jump those teams though. Maybe fit right above Wantagh/Harborfields.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happen to the WI chatter i guess those loud parents will wait for the summer

We are not loud just being patient...

Not on Face offs! Sorry Brown commit. Politics can only get you so far. Not fun riding pine in college. Face offs will be an issue for MS if they make it out of Suffolk![/quote]

If they make it out of Suffolk? Not an MS guy, but come on, give them their due. They've recruited well enough to pretty much ensure a trip off the Island this year. Don't think anyone is gonna give them much resistance.

so patient that when you are losing you don't go to the cage sounds like a great strategy

Top 2 class C nassau tonight as wantagh visits CSH looking to avenge last years playoff lost. MS should face one of these 2 in LIC.
Reading above re FO, between both these teams have 3 legit D1 FO guys. MS will not have easy time against any of if they do meet up at Hofstra.
Smell upset tonight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

Natalie you should of signed your name

Anyone else have a booster that says we don’t do senior day?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

Natalie you should of signed your name

signed....lil' Joeys mom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else have a booster that says we don’t do senior day?

What's a booster?

In my town its the parents that pay, and at that its usually the same parents paying each time.

2 games today that will have playoff implications are Sachem North vs Northport and Wi vs Connnetquot both games will be closer then you think

Northport should not have a problem against North but WI vs Connetquot should be a good game both are a must win for each program....

Games are Weds but yes i agree with you

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

Here we go MS it was only a matter of time with the garbage from SWR . Is the summer bringing more tranfers into MS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt Sinai was in full control of game . Both teams played hard but Sinai took it to them

Still, one has to question their dominance as compared to GC. Think that was answered.

Smithtown West is the most Dominate Suffolk team and GC beat them. GC beat Massapequa. Chaminade beat Massapequa and St. Anthony's. St Anthony's claims they destroyed GC in a scrimmage, and barley ameout of the Manhasset game

SWM dominated face offs, this will be a weakness for MS moving forward. If SWR cleans up the turnovers and hits less pipes, will be a different outcome In playoffs.

Watched the game two skilled teams with way too many turnovers Both teams need to clean it up or neither will beat CSH in th LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

Decides what?

Seven Long Island Teams in the top 25 in this weeks UA National Rankings.

Go Strong Island!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

Decides what?

The best in the state. I expect the Friars to beat Chaminade this go round. Chaminade may lose Saturday.

Maybe SWR coach will shake hands next go around regardless of the result

Looks like Nassau A is decided.

Nassau Class C upset - North Shore defeated Cold Spring Harbor yesterday. Congrats on a big win for North Shore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

A bit surprised that North Shore beat CSH yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

A bit surprised that North Shore beat CSH yesterday

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Kudos to North Shore for a huge win, on the road. It nice to see other teams give the big dogs a run for their money. That's what makes LI lax players the best in the country! Whose gonna fall next ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 games today that will have playoff implications are Sachem North vs Northport and Wi vs Connnetquot both games will be closer then you think

WI in a nail biter.

Sachem East West Islip big match up for both teams a must win lets see what team shows up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Count down is on

Chaminade (next game decides it)
St Anthony's
Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai
Ward Melville
Massapequa (will there be a flip flop with Syosset)
Bay Shore (will there be a flip flop with Northport)
Cold Spring
Syosset
Riverhead

SouthSide
Northport
Harborfields

A bit surprised that North Shore beat CSH yesterday

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Kudos to North Shore for a huge win, on the road. It nice to see other teams give the big dogs a run for their money. That's what makes LI lax players the best in the country! Whose gonna fall next ?

It was stated earlier there will be a few losses that cant be explained, and soem of those wont be taken into my consideration., but yes, good win. Sorry Greg Sarra this is a better top ten then yours

Riverhead, I thought cow bells or any artificial noise makers were permitted in the games.

So I here SW Lost to Bayshore by 1.

SW LOST 2 BAYSHORE WHAT DOMINANCE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead, I thought cow bells or any artificial noise makers were permitted in the games.

Smithtown West, you guys should have probably used the cow bells yesterday. May have helped you...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I here SW Lost to Bayshore by 1.

Lost by two, second loss now (GC). They peaked early, did not look like a championship team yesterday.

Chaminade beatdown of Manhasset......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead, I thought cow bells or any artificial noise makers were permitted in the games.

Smithtown West, you guys should have probably used the cow bells yesterday. May have helped you...

Can always use more cow bell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Riverhead, I thought cow bells or any artificial noise makers were permitted in the games.

Smithtown West, you guys should have probably used the cow bells yesterday. May have helped you...

Can always use more cow bell

It was a huge win for Bay Shore with or without the cowbell! No one thought they would even come close to winning! The only goals Smithtown scored were on a 2 min non- releasable and penalties that at some points were gifts from the referees. One of the stronger teams that have gone through the Bay Shore program.

Sorry LiLJ you must be drinking someones Kool-Aide

A more realistic list knowing the boys and teams

Chaminade (Nice win on your big day)
St Anthony's (They are some traveling fools)

Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai (Will only move as high as 2nd/3rd after a LIC)

Ward Melville
Massapequa (Great win over Syosset, didnt doubt it for a minute)
Bay Shore (Nice win over Smithtown, some who know these two teams saw this coming)

Cold Spring Harbor (Bethpage is a waiting)
Syosset
Northport (Great win over Sachem North, big game with Bay Shore this week)
Riverhead

SouthSide
Shoreham Wading River (Playoffs will show how high they can go)
Harborfields or Bayport (big Game on Weds decides this jumps over Shoreham Wading River)
Wantagh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry LiLJ you must be drinking someones Kool-Aide

A more realistic list knowing the boys and teams

Chaminade (Nice win on your big day)
St Anthony's (They are some traveling fools)

Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai (Will only move as high as 2nd/3rd after a LIC)

Ward Melville
Massapequa (Great win over Syosset, didnt doubt it for a minute)
Bay Shore (Nice win over Smithtown, some who know these two teams saw this coming)

Cold Spring Harbor (Bethpage is a waiting)
Syosset
Northport (Great win over Sachem North, big game with Bay Shore this week)
Riverhead

SouthSide
Shoreham Wading River (Playoffs will show how high they can go)
Harborfields or Bayport (big Game on Weds decides this jumps over Shoreham Wading River)
Wantagh

Completely agree, LILJ is way off with their high school lacrosse rankings.

1) Chaminade 11-0, opponents 125-55 (69% winning percentage), 5 opponents in IL top 25
2) St. Anthony's 13-1, opponents 144-49 (75% winning percentage), 8 opponents in IL top 25

3) Manhasset
4) Garden City
5) Massapequa
6) Smithtown West
7) Ward Melville
8) Mt. Sinai 14-0, opponents 94-94 (50% winning percentage), ZERO opponents in IL top 25
9) Bayshore
10-14) Syosset/CSH/Riverhead/SWR/Harborfields

Mt. Sinai, very good team having a great season, but come on........Schedule, schedule, schedule. Most importantly, they would have serious problems vs Chaminade, SA, Massapequa, SW, GC and Manhasset because their offense wouldn't possess the ball.

And before you complain about Section XI, WM figured out how to schedule some quality out of conference teams.

Wait till playoffs than all ur bs ratings go out the window.

[ChillLaxin] till playoffs start.

Manhasset is over-rated at #8. They were completely dominated by Chaminade.

St. Anthony's and Chaminade may trade victories back and forth, but those two are playing on an entirely different level than the rest of the teams on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset is over-rated at #8. They were completely dominated by Chaminade.

St. Anthony's and Chaminade may trade victories back and forth, but those two are playing on an entirely different level than the rest of the teams on Long Island.

Umm...Ok you dopey lax bro. Who’s your kid, the water boy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait till playoffs than all ur bs ratings go out the window.

Says the West Islip dad.

And for the post about Manhasset being over rated and getting dominated, most teams would be dominated in that game.

The most overated team is SWR. You talk about Mt Sinai not pushing the SOS (I get it, good points, thank you for promoting my view of not #1 but undefeated has got to mean something, 6 or 8 splitting hairs), but back to SWR. Mt Sinai handedly beat SWR. I'd put Northport ahead of SWR. I also think you need to add Bayport, I would love be to see that game against Harborfields.

Also would love it if Newsday broke down Suffolk like they do with Nassau. Show us Suffolk Div 2 teams as Div 2-B, Div 2-c, Div 2-D.

West Islip come on that ship has sailed they are not very good and everyone knows it . The kids are average at best and that is fine whoever is saying they are great is just trying to pump up there kids team but that has been going on for years with them ... Good Luck to all who make the palyoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip come on that ship has sailed they are not very good and everyone knows it . The kids are average at best and that is fine whoever is saying they are great is just trying to pump up there kids team but that has been going on for years with them ... Good Luck to all who make the palyoffs

Nice Win for Bayshore!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset is over-rated at #8. They were completely dominated by Chaminade.

St. Anthony's and Chaminade may trade victories back and forth, but those two are playing on an entirely different level than the rest of the teams on Long Island.

Don't know much about Boys Lacrosse but I do know that Chaminade is playing better than the rest of The Island. St. Anthony's is a very good team but I think they are in the same grouping as SW, WM, Pequa, GC, Manhasset.

Right now Chaminade is all alone IMHO. Playoffs should be fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset is over-rated at #8. They were completely dominated by Chaminade.

St. Anthony's and Chaminade may trade victories back and forth, but those two are playing on an entirely different level than the rest of the teams on Long Island.

Don't know much about Boys Lacrosse but I do know that Chaminade is playing better than the rest of The Island. St. Anthony's is a very good team but I think they are in the same grouping as SW, WM, Pequa, GC, Manhasset.

Right now Chaminade is all alone IMHO. Playoffs should be fun.

Chaminade and St As are great teams. If they play ten times, it most likely would be 5-5. St As team has received all the hype with some of their players getting national attention while Chaminade has not. The Chaminade juniors have really stepped up and have been playing some great lacrosse. Chaminade plays as a team, there are no prima donas

Well, looks like Northport is no longer in the rankings conversation. Heard they got smacked by Huntington 12-7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well, looks like Northport is no longer in the rankings conversation. Heard they got smacked by Huntington 12-7.

Who cares they are in the playoffs and a dangerous team.

What about Commack and Sachem East, do they get to .500. Do they make it in over Floyd or Middle Country that is a big game. Can Lindenhurst squeeze in 8 wins and find the 12th spot. Power points vs record thought you had to be .500 or better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well, looks like Northport is no longer in the rankings conversation. Heard they got smacked by Huntington 12-7.

Wait - What? Huntington? Should make things interesting in the last week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well, looks like Northport is no longer in the rankings conversation. Heard they got smacked by Huntington 12-7.

Who cares they are in the playoffs and a dangerous team.

What about Commack and Sachem East, do they get to .500. Do they make it in over Floyd or Middle Country that is a big game. Can Lindenhurst squeeze in 8 wins and find the 12th spot. Power points vs record thought you had to be .500 or better

Does anyone know if you get in the playoffs with a record .500 or lower. Used to be, regardless of what the Sectional bracket outline states 12 or 6 games, you needed 8 league wins to qualify. Is there any truth to them reducing the teams to 11 and 5 teams then the 5th in A and the 3rd in B get a bye?

3rd wave of UA out, many deserving seniors left out . Seems like they love the private school kids over the publics. A shame. Also picking kids from other regions who are no way as talented as those from LI to "Grow the game". The event does not showcase the best talent, so it makes those picked better than they are. Political nonsense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd wave of UA out, many deserving seniors left out . Seems like they love the private school kids over the publics. A shame. Also picking kids from other regions who are no way as talented as those from LI to "Grow the game". The event does not showcase the best talent, so it makes those picked better than they are. Political nonsense!

Who cares??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd wave of UA out, many deserving seniors left out . Seems like they love the private school kids over the publics. A shame. Also picking kids from other regions who are no way as talented as those from LI to "Grow the game". The event does not showcase the best talent, so it makes those picked better than they are. Political nonsense!

Who cares??

Agreed

WI will be in the B division next year.

Smithtown East beats Ward Melville 8-7

1 Smith West
2 Ward Melville
3 Norhtport
4 West Islip

5 Bay Shore
6 Smithtown East
7 Riverhead
8 Huntington

9 Sachem East
10 Connetquot

11 Commack
12 Sachem North

how in the wide world of sports does Commack get in under .500 and Floyd and Middle Country at 8-6 doesnt.

WI looking at them this year will not go far this year , as for next year they are losing goalie , face-off guy , #1 defense-man those are difficult positions to replace ... But thankfully you have the crazy parents returning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well, looks like Northport is no longer in the rankings conversation. Heard they got smacked by Huntington 12-7.

and just like that they're back

Ward Melville seems solid top to bottom. I think they can win it all.

Originally Posted by laxislife

Ward Melville seems solid top to bottom. I think they can win it all.

Who?? They couldn't get out of their own way yesterday!

That,s called sand bagging your pre season rankings. It works on Power points, which is 100 percent correct.
Only way record works is if play all opponents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That,s called sand bagging your pre season rankings. It works on Power points, which is 100 percent correct.
Only way record works is if play all opponents.

True, but you should at least be .500...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry LiLJ you must be drinking someones Kool-Aide

A more realistic list knowing the boys and teams

Chaminade (Nice win on your big day)
St Anthony's (They are some traveling fools)

Manhasset
Garden City
Smithtown West

Mt Sinai (Will only move as high as 2nd/3rd after a LIC)

Ward Melville
Massapequa (Great win over Syosset, didnt doubt it for a minute)
Bay Shore (Nice win over Smithtown, some who know these two teams saw this coming)

Cold Spring Harbor (Bethpage is a waiting)
Syosset
Northport (Great win over Sachem North, big game with Bay Shore this week)
Riverhead

SouthSide
Shoreham Wading River (Playoffs will show how high they can go)
Harborfields or Bayport (big Game on Weds decides this jumps over Shoreham Wading River)
Wantagh

Completely agree, LILJ is way off with their high school lacrosse rankings.

1) Chaminade 11-0, opponents 125-55 (69% winning percentage), 5 opponents in IL top 25
2) St. Anthony's 13-1, opponents 144-49 (75% winning percentage), 8 opponents in IL top 25

3) Manhasset
4) Garden City
5) Massapequa
6) Smithtown West
7) Ward Melville
8) Mt. Sinai 14-0, opponents 94-94 (50% winning percentage), ZERO opponents in IL top 25
9) Bayshore
10-14) Syosset/CSH/Riverhead/SWR/Harborfields

Mt. Sinai, very good team having a great season, but come on........Schedule, schedule, schedule. Most importantly, they would have serious problems vs Chaminade, SA, Massapequa, SW, GC and Manhasset because their offense wouldn't possess the ball.

And before you complain about Section XI, WM figured out how to schedule some quality out of conference teams.

Mt Sinai won’t make it to LIC unlike the girls team who will sit and hold the ball for ever, the boys are impatient. They generate a lot of points. They also generate a lot of turnovers and have pretty low shooting percentages. The only way they make it there is as spectators.

http://www.sectionxi.org/tour/blax.htm
http://www.secviii.org/SPORTS/BRACKETS/B_Lacrosse_A
http://www.secviii.org/SPORTS/BRACKETS/B_Lacrosse_B
http://www.secviii.org/SPORTS/BRACKETS/B_Lacrosse_C

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

Had a great conversation today. It started out about best teams but because of the many teams that have parlayed into the playoffs it rolled into impact players. Players that made a good team great. That naturally rolled into MVP players. With the end of season accolades coming it would be hard pressed not to vote The Smithtown West Fogo as the POTY in Suffolk. You can't score of you don't have the ball, and if the opposing team scores you are always in the game.

But take that player off the field and is the team the same are they as dangerous? They have a powerful offense, and a formidable fortress of a defense but are they the best team? IDK. Team of the year if there was one has yet to be determined but a few have to be contenders. Northport can't be left out of that conversation. Sure a hiccup to Huntington but a strong game against Bay Shore. Can Bay Shore run the table and turn heads. Smithtown East's you coach could have them poised for a run themselves. But to over look.West Islip and Ward Melville would be a mistake, a big mistake.

Then you have the Catholics,. I am not sure if their is ever a lost in their series. Both teams are talented and it seems a few times the best team (on paper) doesn't win.

Garden City looks strong then Manhasset beats them, A seemed to be only an overlooked Massapequa team. Will playoff be exciting or boring due to.this. we will all see. A game on paper doesn't always turn out like it was planned (especially with compromising weather).

Survive and advance, that's all you need to do now. Survive and advance!

Need help with a ruling.

On a defensive transition the Pole/LSM still in box,throws a check (slash across the face). Players feet are clearly in substitution box and has nowhere near established himself in the field of play. But throws a check (and to the face)

What is the call (outside of the fact should have been a hit to the head)?

Immediate ejection, locked in for 2 mins?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd wave of UA out, many deserving seniors left out . Seems like they love the private school kids over the publics. A shame. Also picking kids from other regions who are no way as talented as those from LI to "Grow the game". The event does not showcase the best talent, so it makes those picked better than they are. Political nonsense!

Who cares??

Agreed

A lot of people care. Just about every parent on this site would love for their kid to be selected as one of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans. Just about every player would love to play in the game. They absolutely get it right. Lacrosse is not an exact science, there is no way to pick the exact 44 best but UA gets pretty darn close. There are some very deserving players who do not get selected but there are not that many, we are not talking hundreds. There are very talented players from all over the country as well as Canada. Maybe there are 15 - 20 players from Long Island that could be considered for UA. Most likely fewer than 10 from LI will be selected.

Congratulations to all who are named Under Armour All-America.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

The Farmingdale Stadium is actually in Nassau County!

So...... when are the All-County awards picked?

When are the All-County selections made for Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

I think that Farmingdale is where it should be over Islip High School. Or have it at St Joseph's in Patchogue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd wave of UA out, many deserving seniors left out . Seems like they love the private school kids over the publics. A shame. Also picking kids from other regions who are no way as talented as those from LI to "Grow the game". The event does not showcase the best talent, so it makes those picked better than they are. Political nonsense!

Who cares??

Agreed

A lot of people care. Just about every parent on this site would love for their kid to be selected as one of the 44 Under Armour All-Americans. Just about every player would love to play in the game. They absolutely get it right. Lacrosse is not an exact science, there is no way to pick the exact 44 best but UA gets pretty darn close. There are some very deserving players who do not get selected but there are not that many, we are not talking hundreds. There are very talented players from all over the country as well as Canada. Maybe there are 15 - 20 players from Long Island that could be considered for UA. Most likely fewer than 10 from LI will be selected.

Congratulations to all who are named Under Armour All-America.

They absolutely do not get it right on LI! It will be glaring when Smithtown west beats Massapequa! Many of those picked are clearly not the best and just picked because they dont live in one of the hot beds.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

I think that Farmingdale is where it should be over Islip High School. Or have it at St Joseph's in Patchogue.

Now that Nagle is gone at Stony Brook maybe it can go back there. Maybe the next coach will want it played there. And I am sorry Farmingdale is not a better Venue that Islip. There are a dozen or more HS locations better. ESM facilities are nice and St Joeo's is a good option too. SJC Used to hold the Nassau Suffolk game there (havnt been in a while) but they play DIII gotta be nicer than Farmingdale

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Need help with a ruling.

On a defensive transition the Pole/LSM still in box,throws a check (slash across the face). Players feet are clearly in substitution box and has nowhere near established himself in the field of play. But throws a check (and to the face)

What is the call (outside of the fact should have been a hit to the head)?

Immediate ejection, locked in for 2 mins?

No immediate ejection. Would be a unsportsmanlike penalty for either 2 or 3, depending on the severity of the hit and the circumstances of the play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

I think that Farmingdale is where it should be over Islip High School. Or have it at St Joseph's in Patchogue.

Now that Nagle is gone at Stony Brook maybe it can go back there. Maybe the next coach will want it played there. And I am sorry Farmingdale is not a better Venue that Islip. There are a dozen or more HS locations better. ESM facilities are nice and St Joeo's is a good option too. SJC Used to hold the Nassau Suffolk game there (havnt been in a while) but they play DIII gotta be nicer than Farmingdale

Spallina taking over?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Need help with a ruling.

On a defensive transition the Pole/LSM still in box,throws a check (slash across the face). Players feet are clearly in substitution box and has nowhere near established himself in the field of play. But throws a check (and to the face)

What is the call (outside of the fact should have been a hit to the head)?

Immediate ejection, locked in for 2 mins?

No immediate ejection. Would be a unsportsmanlike penalty for either 2 or 3, depending on the severity of the hit and the circumstances of the play

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Section Xi way to make the playoff seem like summer league games. Cant believe you couldn't get a better venue. Going backward

I think that Farmingdale is where it should be over Islip High School. Or have it at St Joseph's in Patchogue.

Now that Nagle is gone at Stony Brook maybe it can go back there. Maybe the next coach will want it played there. And I am sorry Farmingdale is not a better Venue that Islip. There are a dozen or more HS locations better. ESM facilities are nice and St Joeo's is a good option too. SJC Used to hold the Nassau Suffolk game there (havnt been in a while) but they play DIII gotta be nicer than Farmingdale

Spallina taking over?

I am sure he will have a big say in the decision, at the very least.

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Best LSM - Sal Pascarella Hills East

GOALS 18
ASSISTS 9
POINTS 27

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

Do any of you have any idea how political these selections are? Choses are bartered like a case of beer. I've been in the room and seen the nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Others that were considered.

Attack - Joey Spallina has an argument there. He shares and finishes with the ball, but the level of competition gives it to Caddigan, then maybe Xavier Arline can be one of the better attack. An argument can be said it isnt their fault their district isnt as big. But if I am only noting A schools, which I think this is Norhtport's Sal Miccio would be next.

Middie - Here it is tough when you are the best kid on the team. Those are kids on the leader board, but should that qualify as best in a region. MVP for their team yes. The best middie are the ones who do all the unmentionables. Initiates and defends. Smithtown (Caddigan/Frank/Bell), Ward Melville (Berry/Aviles), Northport (Napoli/Smith) and Bay Shore (Day/DeSimone) all are 2 great 2 way middies. But none better than Aviles

Fogo - no contest Mr Calderon is on top. this one is tricky because wing play helped out a lot this year Smithown East Chris Arceri

LSM - Christian Lowd - Smithtown West, Pat Oneil - Ward Melville, Justin Gerdvil Northport, considered Sal Pascarella Hills East.

Goalie - Many were blessed with those very good defenses in front of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

Coaches are the ones who decide ultimately. It's not the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

Pretty sure All-County is not voted on. Schools / coaches are given a number of selections based on where they finish the regular season. The coach then selects / nominates the player / players he wants to receive the accolade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

Agreed! Also Suffolk C is a very weak league, so those Stats are not as meaningful as Suffolk A. From what I understand, All County award are picked before the post season.

Says you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Says you... there are plenty of questions!!!! Plenty!

Was watching the recent St Anthony vs Chaminade game online. Incredible skills and play. Do all these players play for club teams besides their HS team. Does each school have a certain Club team or a do players play for various clubs in area. Just curious as I am not a LI guy and talent was at such a high level for both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Others that were considered.

Attack - Joey Spallina has an argument there. He shares and finishes with the ball, but the level of competition gives it to Caddigan, then maybe Xavier Arline can be one of the better attack. An argument can be said it isnt their fault their district isnt as big. But if I am only noting A schools, which I think this is Norhtport's Sal Miccio would be next.

Middie - Here it is tough when you are the best kid on the team. Those are kids on the leader board, but should that qualify as best in a region. MVP for their team yes. The best middie are the ones who do all the unmentionables. Initiates and defends. Smithtown (Caddigan/Frank/Bell), Ward Melville (Berry/Aviles), Northport (Napoli/Smith) and Bay Shore (Day/DeSimone) all are 2 great 2 way middies. But none better than Aviles

Fogo - no contest Mr Calderon is on top. this one is tricky because wing play helped out a lot this year Smithown East Chris Arceri

LSM - Christian Lowd - Smithtown West, Pat Oneil - Ward Melville, Justin Gerdvil Northport, considered Sal Pascarella Hills East.

Goalie - Many were blessed with those very good defenses in front of them.

LSM I agree with ONeil and Lowd. Peters on SE is excellent all over the field.

Arceri wins almost all F/O to himself and has beaten every other kid in Suffolk besides Calderone who is tops.. WI next, then BS then Northport.

Goalie I like West Islip Paquette 1st then and Krieg

Attack, Spallina, although that league is weak, Palonetti, Caddigan, Sidorski and Hoffman

See you all at the County dinner!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Says you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Says you... there are plenty of questions!!!! Plenty!

Yes there are plenty of questions, here are some

1. Would you rather have all farts be silent but EXTREMELY deadly, or all farts be harmless but EXTREMELY loud?

2. Would you rather drink orange juice, expecting it to be milk, or drink milk expecting it to be orange juice?

3. Would you rather have legs as long as your fingers, or fingers as long as your legs?

4. Would you rather sweat mayonnaise or sweat ketchup?

5. Would you rather know when you will die or how you will die?

6. Would you rather step on a piece of Lego barefoot everyday for a week, or get a single paper cut between your toes?

7. Would you rather make your internet browsing history for the last 12 months accessible to anyone for a year, or give up the internet for a year?

8. Would you rather understand any language, or be able to play any instrument?

9. Would you rather always be a little bit too hot, or a little bit too cold?

10. Would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck?

11. Would you rather take a 50% chance of winning 100 million, or a 99% chance of winning 1 million?

12. Would you rather never being able to lie, or never be able to tell the truth?

13. If Cinderella's slipper fit perfectly why did it fall off?

14. Is there a God?

15. what is love?

16. Does money buy happiness?

17. If we evolved from Apes why are they still here?

18. Does everything have a purpose?

19. Is the thing you want to achieve really that hard to achieve or is it that you didn’t try hard to achieve it?

20. Is saying there shouldn't be, mean there won't be?

LSM comes down to Northport & Bay Shore kids. They have had a much greater impact on the success of their respective teams without top level defenses & FOGO's compared to the others. While all the kids mentioned are talented, the Smithtown West & Melville kids would not be missed nearly as much. Take those kids away & those are still the top 2 teams & their records would be nearly identical. Not sure where Northport would finish, they pulled out a bunch of quality wins against the top 5 teams. Bay Shore would probably not make the playoffs. The HHHE player has great numbers (doesn't he also stay on for offense?) but the team really struggled & did not have any quality wins. While not his fault, that is tough to overcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was watching the recent St Anthony vs Chaminade game online. Incredible skills and play. Do all these players play for club teams besides their HS team. Does each school have a certain Club team or a do players play for various clubs in area. Just curious as I am not a LI guy and talent was at such a high level for both teams.

Many play Club my 2019 son has played with 6 of them over the years. Many play on 91 and Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LSM comes down to Northport & Bay Shore kids. They have had a much greater impact on the success of their respective teams without top level defenses & FOGO's compared to the others. While all the kids mentioned are talented, the Smithtown West & Melville kids would not be missed nearly as much. Take those kids away & those are still the top 2 teams & their records would be nearly identical. Not sure where Northport would finish, they pulled out a bunch of quality wins against the top 5 teams. Bay Shore would probably not make the playoffs. The HHHE player has great numbers (doesn't he also stay on for offense?) but the team really struggled & did not have any quality wins. While not his fault, that is tough to overcome.

I'm going to stay away from comparing kids playing a high school sport because it leads down a slippery slope and they're just kids having fun - I hope. Unless I understood the dynamics of every team, and knew their individual schemes, and watched every game played this year, I really have no basis for my opinions comparing the kids anyway. But I can confidently say that if you were to ask anyone you know from WM, they would have a different opinion about the impact their LSM has had, this year in particular. But we will see next year when they don't have him for the first time in 4 years. No reason to speculate, it will be obvious. I would venture to say that if you asked the opposing coaches, they wont be too sad to see him move on to the next phase either. All great players mentioned in your post and we will be watching them on Saturdays over the next few years I have no doubt. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was watching the recent St Anthony vs Chaminade game online. Incredible skills and play. Do all these players play for club teams besides their HS team. Does each school have a certain Club team or a do players play for various clubs in area. Just curious as I am not a LI guy and talent was at such a high level for both teams.

Many play Club my 2019 son has played with 6 of them over the years. Many play on 91 and Express

Most 2020 kids are with express and 91 for Chaminade and St As. These two teams are the best on Long Island, always in the top 10 in the country, some of the best players in the country. If they play 10 times it would be 5-5. Great games for the little guys to watch and learn.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Others that were considered.

Attack - Joey Spallina has an argument there. He shares and finishes with the ball, but the level of competition gives it to Caddigan, then maybe Xavier Arline can be one of the better attack. An argument can be said it isnt their fault their district isnt as big. But if I am only noting A schools, which I think this is Norhtport's Sal Miccio would be next.

Middie - Here it is tough when you are the best kid on the team. Those are kids on the leader board, but should that qualify as best in a region. MVP for their team yes. The best middie are the ones who do all the unmentionables. Initiates and defends. Smithtown (Caddigan/Frank/Bell), Ward Melville (Berry/Aviles), Northport (Napoli/Smith) and Bay Shore (Day/DeSimone) all are 2 great 2 way middies. But none better than Aviles

Fogo - no contest Mr Calderon is on top. this one is tricky because wing play helped out a lot this year Smithown East Chris Arceri

LSM - Christian Lowd - Smithtown West, Pat Oneil - Ward Melville, Justin Gerdvil Northport, considered Sal Pascarella Hills East.

Goalie - Many were blessed with those very good defenses in front of them.

LSM I agree with ONeil and Lowd. Peters on SE is excellent all over the field.

Arceri wins almost all F/O to himself and has beaten every other kid in Suffolk besides Calderone who is tops.. WI next, then BS then Northport.

Goalie I like West Islip Paquette 1st then and Krieg

Attack, Spallina, although that league is weak, Palonetti, Caddigan, Sidorski and Hoffman

See you all at the County dinner!

Might disagree with some of your choices FO kid from Riverhead is up their and could probably beat the Smithtown East player. WI also has a strong player. Bay Shore FOGO also had a strong showing against Smithtown East and he is only a Sophomore. Calderon is by far the best FOGO, but give credit to some of the other talents among the league.

D1 and D2 each have
Attack Mid defense specialist goalie of year
D2
Goalie Heller
Specialist Sweeney
Def Filardi
Attack Spalina
Midfield schwarz

And for the 20's if express and 91 played 20x 91 would and has won 20x...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best Attack - Danny Caddigan, Smithtown West
Best Middie - Brandon Aviles, Ward Melville
Best FOGO - Connor Calderon, Smithtown West
Best LSM - Brian Giuliani, Bay Shore
Best Pole - Michael Alexander, West Islip
Best Goalie - Jared Paquette

There should be no question about these players!

Best LSM - Sal Pascarella Hills East

GOALS 18
ASSISTS 9
POINTS 27

GOALS ASSISTS AND POINTS FOR AN LSM??? HOW MANY CTO's and GB's? Talk to me about his wing play and defensive prowess not offense, that's the last thing i would use as a barometer for LSM talent.

Congratulations to West Islip on a hard fought & well earned win over Bay Shore today. They did a better job of capitalizing on a few Bay Shore mistakes in the third to mount a comeback and take control of the game. Could argue Bay Shore was the better team for most of the game. Bay Shore controlled the first half 3-1 but could not maintain their focus in the second half with a few consecutive sloppy clears that led to WI goals. Both defenses looked strong throughout the game & both goalies were very good. WI offense found just enough while the Bay Shore attack (2 out of 3 anyway) could not create or finish anything...Good season for Bay Shore, but in the end, and throughout the season; just could not make enough plays, or avoid costly mistakes, in the big moments against the good teams... Good luck to all those teams still playing.

Congratulations to all the LI boys invited to the US Lacrosse U19 tryouts. Long Island seems to be very well represented!
https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/usa-i...es-2020-us-mens-u19-team-tryout-invitees

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was watching the recent St Anthony vs Chaminade game online. Incredible skills and play. Do all these players play for club teams besides their HS team. Does each school have a certain Club team or a do players play for various clubs in area. Just curious as I am not a LI guy and talent was at such a high level for both teams.

Many play Club my 2019 son has played with 6 of them over the years. Many play on 91 and Express

Most 2020 kids are with express and 91 for Chaminade and St As. These two teams are the best on Long Island, always in the top 10 in the country, some of the best players in the country. If they play 10 times it would be 5-5. Great games for the little guys to watch and learn.

The talent out there for this game was just incredible for High School lacrosse. Fun to watch. After watching many MIAAA games this year. The only MIAA team that would give StA or Chaminade a good game would be Calvert Hall, the rest would be blowouts. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

a "friendemy" of mine would always say stats are always inflated for a certain boy. I would shoo him away as crazy as he is a fanatic. He would say one game he'd get 1 extra goal or assist. Another game game he'd get an extra goal and assist. Many times these points were at the expense of another child, other times just simply phantom stats.

So I was given the videos of the games. WOW, what I saw would be in many schools a fireable offense. So I went to their Whitman game and a playoff game Yesterday, I watched both games first hand and said player (with inflated states) was a non factor and then when I saw Newsday stats. Once again phantom and stolen stats strike agian.

If said player gets 1.5 free stats a game that's 24 points in a season wrong. Some kids dont even get that and this is handed to one kid.

As many may say who cares, we all do. The teacher who taught the kid, who got robbed the stat, will never see his name in the paper and get that feeling of pride when she read the paper wont see . The 4th grader looking at the paper because his mom said read and erroneously sees one kid as a star when it is far from the truth. Or worst when a kid wants to see his name in the paper, because he has only scored once this year but gets robbed. I wouldnt be as bad if it was random kids in random weeks but the same kid every game.

Shady very shady

(I think these two posts are the same team)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to West Islip on a hard fought & well earned win over Bay Shore today. They did a better job of capitalizing on a few Bay Shore mistakes in the third to mount a comeback and take control of the game. Could argue Bay Shore was the better team for most of the game. Bay Shore controlled the first half 3-1 but could not maintain their focus in the second half with a few consecutive sloppy clears that led to WI goals. Both defenses looked strong throughout the game & both goalies were very good. WI offense found just enough while the Bay Shore attack (2 out of 3 anyway) could not create or finish anything...Good season for Bay Shore, but in the end, and throughout the season; just could not make enough plays, or avoid costly mistakes, in the big moments against the good teams... Good luck to all those teams still playing.

Let's also not forget the 3 goals that were taken away from Bay Shore from the referees. If those goals were allowed Bay Shore would have won. It's sad when refs make decisions that cost a team a win. Good job to West Islip and good luck against Smithtown West.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to West Islip on a hard fought & well earned win over Bay Shore today. They did a better job of capitalizing on a few Bay Shore mistakes in the third to mount a comeback and take control of the game. Could argue Bay Shore was the better team for most of the game. Bay Shore controlled the first half 3-1 but could not maintain their focus in the second half with a few consecutive sloppy clears that led to WI goals. Both defenses looked strong throughout the game & both goalies were very good. WI offense found just enough while the Bay Shore attack (2 out of 3 anyway) could not create or finish anything...Good season for Bay Shore, but in the end, and throughout the season; just could not make enough plays, or avoid costly mistakes, in the big moments against the good teams... Good luck to all those teams still playing.

Let's also not forget the 3 goals that were taken away from Bay Shore from the referees. If those goals were allowed Bay Shore would have won. It's sad when refs make decisions that cost a team a win. Good job to West Islip and good luck against Smithtown West.

Every game has their issues but Bay Shore once again gets a game stolen from them (Northport and almost Smithtown). It wasn't only the goals which made a difference. There were 2 big calls that still abffle me and video shows it even more so. The biggest shift in momentum came in the 3rd qtr with a phantom interference call on Bay Shore, then still in 3rd at 7:39, the ref's doubled down on bad calls, with a "keep it in" call. They called "Keep it in" less then 1 minute after BS #23 hits the pipe. WHAT REFS CALLS THAT. THAT IS INEXCUSABLE!!!

As for the goals, 2 of the goals were good, one didnt really matter, you scored on the man up! But that BTB shot to end the half, should have counted and would have been big. To end the half, the ball is in the air before the horn blasts, only with the aide of video technology and slow motion can you tell. Still doesnt make it right.

The late 4th qtr goal that was overturned wasnt close. Undisciplined play by the middie took away a goal by the attackman, but had the other plays mentioned not been called the way they were things should have been different.

On Bay Shore goals that were waived off, first on at end of half was so tough to tell in person if shot beat the horn. Refs don’t have luxury of video so it’s tough to fault them on that one. 2nd one in 4th they clearly blew as per Newsday picture, but they ended up scoring right after so it really only cost them 20 seconds or so. And the last one in 4th that was waved off the Bay Shore cutter ran right thru the crease before shot, wasn’t even close. Bottom line is Bay Shore didn’t capitalize on many of their chances and West Islip did on their back half of 3rd qtr. But it wasn’t like refs blatantly robbed BS.

Regarding the dad who thinks his son has been robbed of points every year, you do realize Newsday stats are dependent on winning team calling in stats kept usually by kids doing the score book at scorers table. So if your son lost yesterday, it was the winning teams score girls who you have a problem with and not your sons coach. And I’m sure all the teachers involved in teaching your son will take pride in other attributes your son may have and really couldn’t care less about the about the box score in Newsday. Nor will the 4th grader, trust me. Might be time to rearrange priorities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to West Islip on a hard fought & well earned win over Bay Shore today. They did a better job of capitalizing on a few Bay Shore mistakes in the third to mount a comeback and take control of the game. Could argue Bay Shore was the better team for most of the game. Bay Shore controlled the first half 3-1 but could not maintain their focus in the second half with a few consecutive sloppy clears that led to WI goals. Both defenses looked strong throughout the game & both goalies were very good. WI offense found just enough while the Bay Shore attack (2 out of 3 anyway) could not create or finish anything...Good season for Bay Shore, but in the end, and throughout the season; just could not make enough plays, or avoid costly mistakes, in the big moments against the good teams... Good luck to all those teams still playing.

Let's also not forget the 3 goals that were taken away from Bay Shore from the referees. If those goals were allowed Bay Shore would have won. It's sad when refs make decisions that cost a team a win. Good job to West Islip and good luck against Smithtown West.

Sure is! Just ask Maryland. Incompetent Refs have no place in the game! So Blatant in HS lacrosse. Too many just don’t understand the rules! Terrible!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On Bay Shore goals that were waived off, first on at end of half was so tough to tell in person if shot beat the horn. Refs don’t have luxury of video so it’s tough to fault them on that one. 2nd one in 4th they clearly blew as per Newsday picture, but they ended up scoring right after so it really only cost them 20 seconds or so. And the last one in 4th that was waved off the Bay Shore cutter ran right thru the crease before shot, wasn’t even close. Bottom line is Bay Shore didn’t capitalize on many of their chances and West Islip did on their back half of 3rd qtr. But it wasn’t like refs blatantly robbed BS.

Regarding the dad who thinks his son has been robbed of points every year, you do realize Newsday stats are dependent on winning team calling in stats kept usually by kids doing the score book at scorers table. So if your son lost yesterday, it was the winning teams score girls who you have a problem with and not your sons coach. And I’m sure all the teachers involved in teaching your son will take pride in other attributes your son may have and really couldn’t care less about the about the box score in Newsday. Nor will the 4th grader, trust me. Might be time to rearrange priorities.

The disallowed goals were bang bang. If that game was at BS would they have gotten the call? Did BS capitalize no they did not and that is why they lost. So on the push if it was a goal is the push waved off?

As far as a dad who year in and out gets robbed, I know who that is too. It is frustrating and depressing. As a teacher, I always beam with pride when I see my past students get in the paper. As a mom I wished my son's points were "announced" properly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On Bay Shore goals that were waived off, first on at end of half was so tough to tell in person if shot beat the horn. Refs don’t have luxury of video so it’s tough to fault them on that one. 2nd one in 4th they clearly blew as per Newsday picture, but they ended up scoring right after so it really only cost them 20 seconds or so. And the last one in 4th that was waved off the Bay Shore cutter ran right thru the crease before shot, wasn’t even close. Bottom line is Bay Shore didn’t capitalize on many of their chances and West Islip did on their back half of 3rd qtr. But it wasn’t like refs blatantly robbed BS.

Regarding the dad who thinks his son has been robbed of points every year, you do realize Newsday stats are dependent on winning team calling in stats kept usually by kids doing the score book at scorers table. So if your son lost yesterday, it was the winning teams score girls who you have a problem with and not your sons coach. And I’m sure all the teachers involved in teaching your son will take pride in other attributes your son may have and really couldn’t care less about the about the box score in Newsday. Nor will the 4th grader, trust me. Might be time to rearrange priorities.

Bottom line, Bay Shore lost a game against a talented West Islip team. Both schools had their chances, West Islip capitalized on their chances.

As far as stays, yes winning team is responsible for the numbers you see in the papers or websites. But a coach from each team is responsible for signing off the winning teams book, correct?

The dad you mention is passionate for all the boys not just his own. Let's not go there. Had it been him and you know him he would have be steamming about another issue. Many are upset about the issue not the kid. It's very unsportsmanlike and on coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to all the LI boys invited to the US Lacrosse U19 tryouts. Long Island seems to be very well represented!
https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/usa-i...es-2020-us-mens-u19-team-tryout-invitees

Yes, Congratulations to all. Go Long Island! Go USA! What a great opportunity have fun and enjoy the ride.

West Islip stinks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to West Islip on a hard fought & well earned win over Bay Shore today. They did a better job of capitalizing on a few Bay Shore mistakes in the third to mount a comeback and take control of the game. Could argue Bay Shore was the better team for most of the game. Bay Shore controlled the first half 3-1 but could not maintain their focus in the second half with a few consecutive sloppy clears that led to WI goals. Both defenses looked strong throughout the game & both goalies were very good. WI offense found just enough while the Bay Shore attack (2 out of 3 anyway) could not create or finish anything...Good season for Bay Shore, but in the end, and throughout the season; just could not make enough plays, or avoid costly mistakes, in the big moments against the good teams... Good luck to all those teams still playing.

Let's also not forget the 3 goals that were taken away from Bay Shore from the referees. If those goals were allowed Bay Shore would have won. It's sad when refs make decisions that cost a team a win. Good job to West Islip and good luck against Smithtown West.

Sure is! Just ask Maryland. Incompetent Refs have no place in the game! So Blatant in HS lacrosse. Too many just don’t understand the rules! Terrible!

Stop your whining. Either pick up a whistle and attempt to officiate a game or STFU.

Suffolk A is not what it use to be the talent level is down across the entire division , and yes you are correct West Islip is not a very good team but that is a reflection of how bad Suffolk A has gotten.. Why do they have 12 teams making the playoffs

Bye Bye Bay Shore. You flapped all year and fell down as you always do. No program. Whining about the refs, please. If your were that good, the game wouldn't have been that close and would not have mattered. The loss is on you, not the refs and West islip won, again... Back to oblivion... Enjoy rooting from the stands. And don't worry, West Islip's season will only extend one game more than yours...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

a "friendemy" of mine would always say stats are always inflated for a certain boy. I would shoo him away as crazy as he is a fanatic. He would say one game he'd get 1 extra goal or assist. Another game game he'd get an extra goal and assist. Many times these points were at the expense of another child, other times just simply phantom stats.

So I was given the videos of the games. WOW, what I saw would be in many schools a fireable offense. So I went to their Whitman game and a playoff game Yesterday, I watched both games first hand and said player (with inflated states) was a non factor and then when I saw Newsday stats. Once again phantom and stolen stats strike agian.

If said player gets 1.5 free stats a game that's 24 points in a season wrong. Some kids dont even get that and this is handed to one kid.

As many may say who cares, we all do. The teacher who taught the kid, who got robbed the stat, will never see his name in the paper and get that feeling of pride when she read the paper wont see . The 4th grader looking at the paper because his mom said read and erroneously sees one kid as a star when it is far from the truth. Or worst when a kid wants to see his name in the paper, because he has only scored once this year but gets robbed. I wouldnt be as bad if it was random kids in random weeks but the same kid every game.

Shady very shady

(I think these two posts are the same team)

Worry less about lacrosse and more about your atrocious writing skills.

Bay Shore stinks worse... enjoy the view of the playoffs from the stands, as usual. Should not have blathered earlier in the season. Own the loss. If your team deserved to win you would've over come the officiating and the game would not have been that close to have it matter. Take solace in the fact that West Islip's playoff heartbeat will only last one more game than yours did.

West Islip is not very good them being in the Semi finals does not say much about the competition in Suffolk A .... But if you ask the parents in the stands they are the best in the country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip stinks

West Islip has a great D and Goalie. They lack movement in the offensive end with no cutting. Simply they are easy to defend against.

Not as bad as Bay Shore...

Tomorrow's prediction in class A

Smithtown West will dominate the possession battle and wear down WI. WI defense is solid, not great. That unit is somewhat over rated. The defense is fundamentally sound, well coached & patient but not very good at causing turnovers or creating offensive opportunities. Today WI will need to create possessions. Their goalie makes them a lot better than they are, as does their face-off man most games. Also the WI midfielders are young, physically small & a little weak defensively for this game. WI does not get enough from the LSM position. This is just a bad match-up for WI if they play their usual style. WI is a well coached team that out-performs its' talent & lack of athletic ability, which is actually a credit to them. Unfortunately Smithtown is better coached, more athletic and talented. They will dominate possessions and wear down WI and control the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown West will dominate the possession battle and wear down WI. WI defense is solid, not great. That unit is somewhat over rated. The defense is fundamentally sound, well coached & patient but not very good at causing turnovers or creating offensive opportunities. Today WI will need to create possessions. Their goalie makes them a lot better than they are, as does their face-off man most games. Also the WI midfielders are young, physically small & a little weak defensively for this game. WI does not get enough from the LSM position. This is just a bad match-up for WI if they play their usual style. WI is a well coached team that out-performs its' talent & lack of athletic ability, which is actually a credit to them. Unfortunately Smithtown is better coached, more athletic and talented. They will dominate possessions and wear down WI and control the game.

Didn't the Smithtown "Dream Team" lose to WI in an upset a few years ago in the quarters? Gotta play the game before a winner is crowned!

Best kid on WI is the Sr pole, but he can only cover one of the many offensive threats on SW. WI Goalie is good, but SW fogo is much better. WI goalie has a big tell, shoot low, bounce at his heels, fake low, and get in his head low. WI has some other good players to look out for 5, 12 and 42 will be fun to watch, but SW has few liabilities. WI shoot when you get the chance. Wonder if Smithtown will want retribution from WI scoring late in the football playoffs, if so, score could get out of hand. Smithtown West by 7.

This segways into the better game to me, the grudge match. Ward Melville vs Northport. If weather is a factor Id have to take Northport, they are a more rough and tumble bunch. Ward Melville will say they have a blue collar mentality but not compared to Northport. I think the game comes down to WM goalie and how the Northport’s defense plays and what they are allowed to get away with. I still say it comes down to the smoother team, Ward Melville by 2.

Some complaints.
$10 entrance fee (if AD didnt get you on the list)
Todays games should be played at a neutral site
That Neutral site shouldnt be at Lax-fest either, having next Weds at Farmingdale is a disgrace
Adults have a funny way of getting in the way of things.

Typical West Islip Parent living in the past those days are long gone take a look at your attack unit besides your crease guy they can not score at all .... they dance around and turn the ball over just watch the game ... if i were SW i would press out all day and WI will turn the ball because they do not have one player that can carry the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid on WI is the Sr pole, but he can only cover one of the many offensive threats on SW. WI Goalie is good, but SW fogo is much better. WI goalie has a big tell, shoot low, bounce at his heels, fake low, and get in his head low. WI has some other good players to look out for 5, 12 and 42 will be fun to watch, but SW has few liabilities. WI shoot when you get the chance. Wonder if Smithtown will want retribution from WI scoring late in the football playoffs, if so, score could get out of hand. Smithtown West by 7.

This segways into the better game to me, the grudge match. Ward Melville vs Northport. If weather is a factor Id have to take Northport, they are a more rough and tumble bunch. Ward Melville will say they have a blue collar mentality but not compared to Northport. I think the game comes down to WM goalie and how the Northport’s defense plays and what they are allowed to get away with. I still say it comes down to the smoother team, Ward Melville by 2.

Some complaints.
$10 entrance fee (if AD didnt get you on the list)
Todays games should be played at a neutral site
That Neutral site shouldnt be at Lax-fest either, having next Weds at Farmingdale is a disgrace
Adults have a funny way of getting in the way of things.

Close, Melville by 3 and WI has no chance. All is right in Section XI again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid on WI is the Sr pole, but he can only cover one of the many offensive threats on SW. WI Goalie is good, but SW fogo is much better. WI goalie has a big tell, shoot low, bounce at his heels, fake low, and get in his head low. WI has some other good players to look out for 5, 12 and 42 will be fun to watch, but SW has few liabilities. WI shoot when you get the chance. Wonder if Smithtown will want retribution from WI scoring late in the football playoffs, if so, score could get out of hand. Smithtown West by 7.

This segways into the better game to me, the grudge match. Ward Melville vs Northport. If weather is a factor Id have to take Northport, they are a more rough and tumble bunch. Ward Melville will say they have a blue collar mentality but not compared to Northport. I think the game comes down to WM goalie and how the Northport’s defense plays and what they are allowed to get away with. I still say it comes down to the smoother team, Ward Melville by 2.

Some complaints.
$10 entrance fee (if AD didnt get you on the list)
Todays games should be played at a neutral site
That Neutral site shouldnt be at Lax-fest either, having next Weds at Farmingdale is a disgrace
Adults have a funny way of getting in the way of things.

Close, Melville by 3 and WI has no chance. All is right in Section XI again.

No chance is an understatement WI was never in the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

a "friendemy" of mine would always say stats are always inflated for a certain boy. I would shoo him away as crazy as he is a fanatic. He would say one game he'd get 1 extra goal or assist. Another game game he'd get an extra goal and assist. Many times these points were at the expense of another child, other times just simply phantom stats.

So I was given the videos of the games. WOW, what I saw would be in many schools a fireable offense. So I went to their Whitman game and a playoff game Yesterday, I watched both games first hand and said player (with inflated states) was a non factor and then when I saw Newsday stats. Once again phantom and stolen stats strike agian.

If said player gets 1.5 free stats a game that's 24 points in a season wrong. Some kids dont even get that and this is handed to one kid.

As many may say who cares, we all do. The teacher who taught the kid, who got robbed the stat, will never see his name in the paper and get that feeling of pride when she read the paper wont see . The 4th grader looking at the paper because his mom said read and erroneously sees one kid as a star when it is far from the truth. Or worst when a kid wants to see his name in the paper, because he has only scored once this year but gets robbed. I wouldnt be as bad if it was random kids in random weeks but the same kid every game.

Shady very shady

(I think these two posts are the same team)

Worry less about lacrosse and more about your atrocious writing skills.

The stats are done by HS kids and the winning team submits them. I can tell you firsthand that the stats are padded to make the "score keepers" friends look great. Everything from assists to saves is a farce. There are no trained official scorekeepers for regular HS games.

Moving forward Ward Melville or Smithtown West

West Islip stinks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best kid on WI is the Sr pole, but he can only cover one of the many offensive threats on SW. WI Goalie is good, but SW fogo is much better. WI goalie has a big tell, shoot low, bounce at his heels, fake low, and get in his head low. WI has some other good players to look out for 5, 12 and 42 will be fun to watch, but SW has few liabilities. WI shoot when you get the chance. Wonder if Smithtown will want retribution from WI scoring late in the football playoffs, if so, score could get out of hand. Smithtown West by 7.

This segways into the better game to me, the grudge match. Ward Melville vs Northport. If weather is a factor Id have to take Northport, they are a more rough and tumble bunch. Ward Melville will say they have a blue collar mentality but not compared to Northport. I think the game comes down to WM goalie and how the Northport’s defense plays and what they are allowed to get away with. I still say it comes down to the smoother team, Ward Melville by 2.

Some complaints.
$10 entrance fee (if AD didnt get you on the list)
Todays games should be played at a neutral site
That Neutral site shouldnt be at Lax-fest either, having next Weds at Farmingdale is a disgrace
Adults have a funny way of getting in the way of things.

Close, Melville by 3 and WI has no chance. All is right in Section XI again.

No chance is an understatement WI was never in the game.

NICE JOB SW!!! WI parents. once again got it completely wrong.. Don't come on here and flap your gums if you can not back it up.

2019 West Islip was toast when a crooked clique took over about 7 years ago. All the guidelines that people with real knowledge and experience put in place were thrown out. Then they formed
a tournament team without a tryout and brought in kids from other towns to fill in the gaps. A worse decision could not have been made. Combine that with a milquetoast AD who let the inmates run the asylum and that’s why WI has gone off a cliff. You can actually mark the day one donk moved to town as the day it all changed.He could be seen swinging a lacrosse stick like a golf club.He would tell you how his kid was the best in the county and could be anywhere. The WI program was #1 in the US on that day. A simple point graph to reflect the difference between then and now would resemble the flight path of a 737 Max. Crooked adults = Lousy results.

West Islip still stinks

BYE WI .... go back to drinking in the parking lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully all post season awards will be based on this high school season only. Previous seasons should not be factored in as these are not lifetime achievement awards, nor should club team affiliation & reputations matter. Reward those players who did it on the field this year. Also I hope voters do not rely on the Newsday stats too heavily. Just based on our team, I can say that they are not always accurate. Plus stats alone do not tell the story of the game & are too easily manipulated. A player tallying 8 points against a weak team in garbage time is not equal to those who perform when needed, or late and close. It would be great to have a service that did stats for all games; some teams are extremely generous with assists and also keep starters in just to pad their numbers.

a "friendemy" of mine would always say stats are always inflated for a certain boy. I would shoo him away as crazy as he is a fanatic. He would say one game he'd get 1 extra goal or assist. Another game game he'd get an extra goal and assist. Many times these points were at the expense of another child, other times just simply phantom stats.

So I was given the videos of the games. WOW, what I saw would be in many schools a fireable offense. So I went to their Whitman game and a playoff game Yesterday, I watched both games first hand and said player (with inflated states) was a non factor and then when I saw Newsday stats. Once again phantom and stolen stats strike agian.

If said player gets 1.5 free stats a game that's 24 points in a season wrong. Some kids dont even get that and this is handed to one kid.

As many may say who cares, we all do. The teacher who taught the kid, who got robbed the stat, will never see his name in the paper and get that feeling of pride when she read the paper wont see . The 4th grader looking at the paper because his mom said read and erroneously sees one kid as a star when it is far from the truth. Or worst when a kid wants to see his name in the paper, because he has only scored once this year but gets robbed. I wouldnt be as bad if it was random kids in random weeks but the same kid every game.

Shady very shady

(I think these two posts are the same team)

Worry less about lacrosse and more about your atrocious writing skills.

The stats are done by HS kids and the winning team submits them. I can tell you firsthand that the stats are padded to make the "score keepers" friends look great. Everything from assists to saves is a farce. There are no trained official scorekeepers for regular HS games.

So your kid has done the stats or you have done the stats. That’s firsthand information, based on your statement you have padded your sons friends stats. Nice guy

In regards to West Islip and when you think the program went downhill, you could not be more wrong. The 2019 group was solid but quite simply not enough talent to compete with the top teams. As for the tournament team you speak of & kids from other towns; that did happen. Not sure your point holds up considering the best kids then turned into your best players today. Your senior pole, goalie, face-off man, crease attack man and senior middie, who was hurt all year, were all on that team and they brought in other players so they could compete because there was no other talent, just like today. The program went downhill when parents like you felt entitled to be part of a great lacrosse program simply because you lived in West Islip; delusional. Parents like you would rather complain than help their son put in the work. Parents like you expect all the benefits of a top program while never contributing anything towards that success. By the way, the program dropped long before this group became seniors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In regards to West Islip and when you think the program went downhill, you could not be more wrong. The 2019 group was solid but quite simply not enough talent to compete with the top teams. As for the tournament team you speak of & kids from other towns; that did happen. Not sure your point holds up considering the best kids then turned into your best players today. Your senior pole, goalie, face-off man, crease attack man and senior middie, who was hurt all year, were all on that team and they brought in other players so they could compete because there was no other talent, just like today. The program went downhill when parents like you felt entitled to be part of a great lacrosse program simply because you lived in West Islip; delusional. Parents like you would rather complain than help their son put in the work. Parents like you expect all the benefits of a top program while never contributing anything towards that success. By the way, the program dropped long before this group became seniors.

So the program is good or not good? Make up your mind here. Was the talent not good enough or was it the parents? Please clarify your statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In regards to West Islip and when you think the program went downhill, you could not be more wrong. The 2019 group was solid but quite simply not enough talent to compete with the top teams. As for the tournament team you speak of & kids from other towns; that did happen. Not sure your point holds up considering the best kids then turned into your best players today. Your senior pole, goalie, face-off man, crease attack man and senior middie, who was hurt all year, were all on that team and they brought in other players so they could compete because there was no other talent, just like today. The program went downhill when parents like you felt entitled to be part of a great lacrosse program simply because you lived in West Islip; delusional. Parents like you would rather complain than help their son put in the work. Parents like you expect all the benefits of a top program while never contributing anything towards that success. By the way, the program dropped long before this group became seniors.

Are you really talking about complaining parents? Sorry you are so wrong, it's a combination of new and old, parents like you who feel "the best player" didn't play this year. Why do you keep squeezing in how the best player didn't play and was hurt all year. News Flash, best kid cant be someone who only played one year. Now to address your no competition, there was no need to bring players in, you did it not build the lax program. That backfired too, if you were as smart as you say you would have had the best kid in the country on that team. But again, the masterminds behind that team weren't thinking to better anyone's lacrosse just only a selected few. Just admit it and Ill admit many kids need to work harder. I will also agree talent was lacking for a few years but you always said your boys were the ones to bring it back. They didnt. If you look back at it, you will realize we got very lucky against Bay Shore, Connetquot, Riverhead, ESM and one might say Sachem.

The boys should hold their heads high, they battled and made it a season to remember. You are right at the fact I hope the rising varsity team will learn its time to work harder to get where you want to be. Not like they have to look very far for disappointment, there is a lot of work to do. This week is the start of a new year, 2020 and sure it will be a new division but the lacrosse will be much better.

Good luck on your son's next adventure, I do wish him the best. Remember you are supposed to let him go, try to let him run his own life now.

The problem that has been going on in West Islip is that most people think because they put a jersey on that their kid is going to be the next super star . They would rather criticize the great and rip him down instead of looking at their own kid not putting the work in . This is called life what you put into something you will get back out , stop crying and pointing fingers at people and look in the mirror and ask yourself did my son do the work in the off season . West Islip has been very fortunate over the years with great talent but every one has caught up and the only way to make your son to be competitive is to put the work in on the off-season. We don't need parents in the stands shouting to their son to stay on the field if you don't like what is going on the pack up and move . Let the kids play the game . In the end if your kid is happy and enjoying his experience then the year was a success

Bay Shore still stinks more...

Guess JR could not save the day!

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

it was a really close game If the Pole from MS did not get hurt in the 4th, I don't think SWR would have won..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guess JR could not save the day!

Couldnt even get a goal except for the one fed him on the crease that an 8 year old non-holdback could have dunked. Don't worry JR, I hear Adelphi will take alumni legacy players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Just a game, relax dude.

what was the final score?

hey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Did people actually move to Mt Sinai for Div II lacrosse? Is that a thing? Where is the value add? Is it just so you can play with a certain Coach’s son?

That's why they play the games. Congrats to SWR. Looking forward to another chapter in SWR vs. CSH.

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Just a game, relax dude.

Nope...it was the County Championship, that's a big deal to the winners, and devastating to the losers. Months of work goes into that game, as well being the last game for the seniors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Did people actually move to Mt Sinai for Div II lacrosse? Is that a thing? Where is the value add? Is it just so you can play with a certain Coach’s son?

One Pole moved from SWR to MS this season, Junior year..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Just a game, relax dude.

Nope...it was the County Championship, that's a big deal to the winners, and devastating to the losers. Months of work goes into that game, as well being the last game for the seniors.

This is perfectly on point. SWR played exceptional players seemed to want it more and players made plays when needed every time. Was a great night for HS lacrosse. Great coaching by SWR faceguarding JS with very good defenseman which seemed to confuse MS and made it difficult for MS to generate 6v6 offense without him getting the ball SWR offense was really good not many turnovers and #6 was the unsung hero through my eyes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Did people actually move to Mt Sinai for Div II lacrosse? Is that a thing? Where is the value add? Is it just so you can play with a certain Coach’s son?

One Pole moved from SWR to MS this season, Junior year..

Yes Nat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Well said. Kudos!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

Did people actually move to Mt Sinai for Div II lacrosse? Is that a thing? Where is the value add? Is it just so you can play with a certain Coach’s son?

One Pole moved from SWR to MS this season, Junior year..

You forgot about the 130 pt transfer/hold back from RP ...AND...the stud middie who transferred from Mattituck. Those happened over the last two years.....

Listen many many of these boys are friends Both teams played their hearts out. Lets not make this so nasty Is is an amazing player evidenced by our coach locking him off with our best defensemen. Last night we were just better and the championship is were it belongs. That said these teams are so talented and you could have Different winner everytime we play and chances are it’ll be the same set up next year. Lets all take the high road here

Should be a Nassau sweep for the LIC's. 33% of the way there... B is a lock with Manhasset and I like CSH and Massapequa as well. Will be surprised if it is not a sweep. The A game will be the closest.

Syosset vs massapequa game was an outstanding game Prequalified got all they could handle

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 West Islip was toast when a crooked clique took over about 7 years ago. All the guidelines that people with real knowledge and experience put in place were thrown out. Then they formed
a tournament team without a tryout and brought in kids from other towns to fill in the gaps. A worse decision could not have been made. Combine that with a milquetoast AD who let the inmates run the asylum and that’s why WI has gone off a cliff. You can actually mark the day one donk moved to town as the day it all changed.He could be seen swinging a lacrosse stick like a golf club.He would tell you how his kid was the best in the county and could be anywhere. The WI program was #1 in the US on that day. A simple point graph to reflect the difference between then and now would resemble the flight path of a 737 Max. Crooked adults = Lousy results.

Heard today west islip headed to class B in 2020

You must be #24’s mom or something if you call that great coaching by Shoreham. That was 100% rec league ball. He has at least 15 studs on that team and the crowbars was treated to C bracket PAL performance of let 1 kid do everything. I mean, he even chased his own missed shots and cleared out the real attackmen to take his spot up top so he can invert it and the. Shoot again and again and again with a pass until the final point. Anymore on could’ve run the score up on Mount Sinai with the personnel available at sure am, but that wasn’t the case. That is why I will be taking my son to another district to play because I will not waste all of the years of training he put in and all of the work he did to get his team into a championship for him to stand there and watch one kid being coached and everybody else just to get out of his way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, so the SWR win is so important at many levels. First is kids changing school districts for lacrosse. Dumb Idea. Second, dads holding their kids back and promoting them as “best in age group”, when they had the ball with 30 sec and couldn’t produce. Kudos to the kids who believed in themselves and their town and worked hard to prove people wrong. Goodnight MS see you next year.

it was a really close game If the Pole from MS did not get hurt in the 4th, I don't think SWR would have won..

Not sure why you'd say that. Half the goals put up by SWR were from the man he was trying, unsuccessfully, to guard. A convenient excuse for a loss though.

Exciting game, could not have asked for more in a Championship game both teams should be proud . However there was a momentum change 1/2 way thru 4th and my opinion is SWR took that game. Lacrosse on LI is best in country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

ahhh maybe one day CSH plays in a real division or heck even their own county? Good team? Sure but spoon fed to the L.I Championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 West Islip was toast when a crooked clique took over about 7 years ago. All the guidelines that people with real knowledge and experience put in place were thrown out. Then they formed
a tournament team without a tryout and brought in kids from other towns to fill in the gaps. A worse decision could not have been made. Combine that with a milquetoast AD who let the inmates run the asylum and that’s why WI has gone off a cliff. You can actually mark the day one donk moved to town as the day it all changed.He could be seen swinging a lacrosse stick like a golf club.He would tell you how his kid was the best in the county and could be anywhere. The WI program was #1 in the US on that day. A simple point graph to reflect the difference between then and now would resemble the flight path of a 737 Max. Crooked adults = Lousy results.

Heard today west islip headed to class B in 2020

Even in class B WI will struggle. They do not run any offense they just stand and pass the ball around till they turn it over. New coach... angry parents...lots to fix before they will be back on top.

Was SWR coach classy enough to shake hands this time?(since he won)?

In WI not the coach just crazy 2020 parents that think their kids are the best when all they did every summer was play in C tournaments and win . Now they can not produce on the field and want to blame other people because they are terrible . Wake up and look in the mirror , and you can start with the main cancer in the stands yelling to his kid to stay on the field , talking about every kid on the field that is in competition with his son ... Good Luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In WI not the coach just crazy 2020 parents that think their kids are the best when all they did every summer was play in C tournaments and win . Now they can not produce on the field and want to blame other people because they are terrible . Wake up and look in the mirror , and you can start with the main cancer in the stands yelling to his kid to stay on the field , talking about every kid on the field that is in competition with his son ... Good Luck

The 2020 cancer was the camera guy on the sideline last year that would yell good time every time his son touched the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

Facts are facts. No one is crying, but someone is embellishing the ability of this player and no one else is impressed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

OK dad stop bragging about your kid, let us know when he beats one of the 10+ top fogos on LI. Otherwise pleas stop nobody cares.

Have no clue about the game or player, but must have impressed someone if he is D1....Stop being bitter, the player doesn't get to choose who guards him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must be #24’s mom or something if you call that great coaching by Shoreham. That was 100% rec league ball. He has at least 15 studs on that team and the crowbars was treated to C bracket PAL performance of let 1 kid do everything. I mean, he even chased his own missed shots and cleared out the real attackmen to take his spot up top so he can invert it and the. Shoot again and again and again with a pass until the final point. Anymore on could’ve run the score up on Mount Sinai with the personnel available at sure am, but that wasn’t the case. That is why I will be taking my son to another district to play because I will not waste all of the years of training he put in and all of the work he did to get his team into a championship for him to stand there and watch one kid being coached and everybody else just to get out of his way

I am not 24's mom my point was our defensive game plan with coaching was very good locking off JS with our top defender completely messed Mount Sinai up because without him setting players up and getting the ball the only offense they had was in fast breaks and the way we won Face-Off combined with the defense put us in that position That said the coaches get credit for that I agree didn't love the offensive approach but I thought it was enough to win! Proud of our boys!! Now on to CSH. Have not seen CSH any thoughts on that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

Facts are facts. No one is crying, but someone is embellishing the ability of this player and no one else is impressed.

Guess we'll see how good he is Saturday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 West Islip was toast when a crooked clique took over about 7 years ago. All the guidelines that people with real knowledge and experience put in place were thrown out. Then they formed
a tournament team without a tryout and brought in kids from other towns to fill in the gaps. A worse decision could not have been made. Combine that with a milquetoast AD who let the inmates run the asylum and that’s why WI has gone off a cliff. You can actually mark the day one donk moved to town as the day it all changed.He could be seen swinging a lacrosse stick like a golf club.He would tell you how his kid was the best in the county and could be anywhere. The WI program was #1 in the US on that day. A simple point graph to reflect the difference between then and now would resemble the flight path of a 737 Max. Crooked adults = Lousy results.

Heard today west islip headed to class B in 2020

Even in class B WI will struggle. They do not run any offense they just stand and pass the ball around till they turn it over. New coach... angry parents...lots to fix before they will be back on top.

I think WI will be just fine in the B's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

OK dad stop bragging about your kid, let us know when he beats one of the 10+ top fogos on LI. Otherwise pleas stop nobody cares.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

OK dad stop bragging about your kid, let us know when he beats one of the 10+ top fogos on LI. Otherwise pleas stop nobody cares.

Was this the Ivy League FOGO or the Patriot League FOGO?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH faceoff kid was lights out last night.

Took the game over

So the D1 holdback commit took the game over against who? A 15 year old soph? Great job.

Then the 15 year old should play JV where he belongs. Varsity is a big boy game with varying ages, quit crying. That’s for kiddie ball. We don’t so that here.

Facts are facts. No one is crying, but someone is embellishing the ability of this player and no one else is impressed.

What facts? The 15 year old is not good enough to play varsity lacrosse is the only fact. Go back to JV. No holdback argument in Varsity lacrosse, thats for club.

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

The guy complaining about csh being spoon fed a championship. LOL. They beat who they are grouped with year in and year out for the last, forever AND win most of their non conference games against very good programs year in and year out. What's the gripe? And every single year they have won Nassau county they either won the State Championship or lost to the eventual winner. It's a great program from a small pool of kids-no inherent advantage over the other small schools it competes against. Stop hating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

Thanks Dad. Glad we have you to keep us informed.

No problem. Just figured it might quiet your blabbering to have some additional relevant information. I can assure you as well I have no relation to the boy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy complaining about csh being spoon fed a championship. LOL. They beat who they are grouped with year in and year out for the last, forever AND win most of their non conference games against very good programs year in and year out. What's the gripe? And every single year they have won Nassau county they either won the State Championship or lost to the eventual winner. It's a great program from a small pool of kids-no inherent advantage over the other small schools it competes against. Stop hating.

just wait until they get their holdback next season. Look out C division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

Thanks Dad. Glad we have you to keep us informed.

Not even close to the best F?O around.. STOP MOMMY

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

LIC Class A, deja vu all over again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

You just made my point again. You beat up a nobody. FACT. Keep bragging.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

You just made my point again. You beat up a nobody. FACT. Keep bragging.

Not bragging, not my team, but the 15 year old isn’t very good. All the top FOGO’s were dominant as 15 year olds. Pequa kid was dominant as a 14 year old on Varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

You just made my point again. You beat up a nobody. FACT. Keep bragging.

Sorry but I didn’t play. Not bragging, commenting on holdback statement. Which team do you play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

You just made my point again. You beat up a nobody. FACT. Keep bragging.

I guess you are lucky enough to live in a district that has enough talent to allow 15 year olds to stay on JV and get better.. Not everyone is lucky enough to have that luxury. Some have to push kids up because they are better than the 16 or 17 year olds in their district. The OP just said don't brag about how your FOGO destroyed a kid when he is 2-3 years older and obviously much better. Winning with class is just as important as losing with class. My son is a fogo and he won some battles and lost some battles, there will always be someone better..

What year was the North Shore Face off kid going to Army? How many face offs did he win? Just curious.

No one on here is touting the CSH kid as the best. You made that up. But he is good, as is the boy committed to the ivy on csh.

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Many sections across the state have recognized their accolades. When does Sect XI and XI announce theirs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The guy complaining about csh being spoon fed a championship. LOL. They beat who they are grouped with year in and year out for the last, forever AND win most of their non conference games against very good programs year in and year out. What's the gripe? And every single year they have won Nassau county they either won the State Championship or lost to the eventual winner. It's a great program from a small pool of kids-no inherent advantage over the other small schools it competes against. Stop hating.

just wait until they get their holdback next season. Look out C division

The inherent advantage over other small schools is the ENORMOUS wealth wielded by the parents, thus enabling them to provide the best training and facilities for their kids. Aside from North Shore and Locust Valley no one comes even remotely close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

He won't beat the Roslyn kid and that's a fact.

A 15 year old playing on Varsity as long as he turned 15 in 2019 is a big deal win or lose. A 15 year old who will turn 16 in 2019 is a an accomplishment and should have gained valuable experience while on the field. I do not subscribe to the point of view he should have been on JV as every face off their is a winner and a lost. A faceoff also relies on two other people.

A competitive fogo is an asset to any team regardless of age, but if a 15 year old beats out the 16/17/18 year olds and is competitive, then good for him!!! No need to be braggadocios, but at the same time good for you.

An a JV player is one who plays on JV not one who is on varsity. Whomever throws facts out should know, many kids on a varsity bench arent any better then some seeing the field on JV. In many times that JV player is much better than the bench varsity player.

I truly hope you are not from CSH bringing up beating a teamate at practice, not cool.

Yes in my town there are kids on Varsity that are not has good of some of the kids on JV. The only difference their parents are not teachers,lol

The point of it all: if you complain that your 15 year old is getting smacked around on varsity, well than maybe he shouldn't be there to begin with. Varsity has kids from many ages, the holdback argument is not valid at this level. If you truly believe that your son is being cheated because the age gap is creating an uneven playing field I encourage you to share your thoughts with the college coach recruiting him, I'm sure he would like to know the mental makeup of your lad. Good luck to those advancing, better luck next year for those not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 15 year old playing on Varsity as long as he turned 15 in 2019 is a big deal win or lose. A 15 year old who will turn 16 in 2019 is a an accomplishment and should have gained valuable experience while on the field. I do not subscribe to the point of view he should have been on JV as every face off their is a winner and a lost. A faceoff also relies on two other people.

A competitive fogo is an asset to any team regardless of age, but if a 15 year old beats out the 16/17/18 year olds and is competitive, then good for him!!! No need to be braggadocios, but at the same time good for you.

An a JV player is one who plays on JV not one who is on varsity. Whomever throws facts out should know, many kids on a varsity bench arent any better then some seeing the field on JV. In many times that JV player is much better than the bench varsity player.

A few young Fogo kids in the league did a good job keeping up with the older boys. Islip has a 2022 kid who did a good job, Bay Shore and Whitman have Fogos that are 2021 and also gave the Division 1 commits a great deal of trouble. The more effort and commitment the better you can become!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point of it all: if you complain that your 15 year old is getting smacked around on varsity, well than maybe he shouldn't be there to begin with. Varsity has kids from many ages, the holdback argument is not valid at this level. If you truly believe that your son is being cheated because the age gap is creating an uneven playing field I encourage you to share your thoughts with the college coach recruiting him, I'm sure he would like to know the mental makeup of your lad. Good luck to those advancing, better luck next year for those not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point of it all: if you complain that your 15 year old is getting smacked around on varsity, well than maybe he shouldn't be there to begin with. Varsity has kids from many ages, the holdback argument is not valid at this level. If you truly believe that your son is being cheated because the age gap is creating an uneven playing field I encourage you to share your thoughts with the college coach recruiting him, I'm sure he would like to know the mental makeup of your lad. Good luck to those advancing, better luck next year for those not.

Wrong. No one complained about a 15 year old getting beat in FOs. The point is that the CSH fan club shouldn’t be talking smack about their FO “smoking” a kid. Geezzzzzz....your reading comprehension skills are horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have a 15 year old who cannot compete with older kids......he's a JV player. FACT

You just made my point again. You beat up a nobody. FACT. Keep bragging.

Sorry but I didn’t play. Not bragging, commenting on holdback statement. Which team do you play for?

The team that shows humility.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

He won't beat the Roslyn kid and that's a fact.

Haha.....sounds more like an overrated opinion from an insecure Dad who's son plays no one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

He won't beat the Roslyn kid and that's a fact.

Roslyn !!!!!!!! Who do they play The Sisters of the Poor ! Stop it !

What happened? Molty blow another Big game like last season against Hills East? That was real bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point of it all: if you complain that your 15 year old is getting smacked around on varsity, well than maybe he shouldn't be there to begin with. Varsity has kids from many ages, the holdback argument is not valid at this level. If you truly believe that your son is being cheated because the age gap is creating an uneven playing field I encourage you to share your thoughts with the college coach recruiting him, I'm sure he would like to know the mental makeup of your lad. Good luck to those advancing, better luck next year for those not.

Seriously, what I got was dont brag about beating a kid you should. You throwing around "sharing your thoughts with recruiting coaches" come on man. When my 13 year was up against 18 years olds first thing coaches asked was were you nervous or scared. He found honesty was the best policy, Heck yeah that was intense, was his party line.

What happened?

To the victor goes the spoils. Good Luck Massapequa. Up next Mamaroneck.

What I can say this season showed coaching really matters. It proved itself across all teams from game one to the end. Although the Massapequa Ward Melville game was a sexy billing, it was not a game of the two best teams. Smithtown West for the second year in a row was, over-coached, restrained and sent packing to early. Ward Melville had a good first half in the Suffolk Championship but there was no way they should have been allowed back into that game. Coach, even if you have a 10 goal lead, you should emphasize matching goal for goal in tournament play especially with a dominate Fogo..

This is the second year in a row where your stalling tactic bit you in the butt. Credit to WM's pole #36 but with such a dominate Fogo you play to score. Look at the young coaches at Manhasset and even Smithtown East. Either of those two coaches would have had those West players ready and humming for 4 quarters.

But, that's why you play the games and I am a true believer that the best team doesn't always win. Congratulations to both Ward Meville and Massapequa. MASSAPEQUA, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS SMITHTOWN and KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the victor goes the spoils. Good Luck Massapequa. Up next Mamaroneck.

What I can say this season showed coaching really matters. It proved itself across all teams from game one to the end. Although the Massapequa Ward Melville game was a sexy billing, it was not a game of the two best teams. Smithtown West for the second year in a row was, over-coached, restrained and sent packing to early. Ward Melville had a good first half in the Suffolk Championship but there was no way they should have been allowed back into that game. Coach, even if you have a 10 goal lead, you should emphasize matching goal for goal in tournament play especially with a dominate Fogo..

This is the second year in a row where your stalling tactic bit you in the butt. Credit to WM's pole #36 but with such a dominate Fogo you play to score. Look at the young coaches at Manhasset and even Smithtown East. Either of those two coaches would have had those West players ready and humming for 4 quarters.

But, that's why you play the games and I am a true believer that the best team doesn't always win. Congratulations to both Ward Meville and Massapequa. MASSAPEQUA, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS SMITHTOWN and KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN.

Sorry....SW not that good. That's why they lost. They had a few good moments this year, but couldn't perform when they needed too. Typical dodos blame the coach instead of their kid who choked when it mattered!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the victor goes the spoils. Good Luck Massapequa. Up next Mamaroneck.

What I can say this season showed coaching really matters. It proved itself across all teams from game one to the end. Although the Massapequa Ward Melville game was a sexy billing, it was not a game of the two best teams. Smithtown West for the second year in a row was, over-coached, restrained and sent packing to early. Ward Melville had a good first half in the Suffolk Championship but there was no way they should have been allowed back into that game. Coach, even if you have a 10 goal lead, you should emphasize matching goal for goal in tournament play especially with a dominate Fogo..

This is the second year in a row where your stalling tactic bit you in the butt. Credit to WM's pole #36 but with such a dominate Fogo you play to score. Look at the young coaches at Manhasset and even Smithtown East. Either of those two coaches would have had those West players ready and humming for 4 quarters.

But, that's why you play the games and I am a true believer that the best team doesn't always win. Congratulations to both Ward Meville and Massapequa. MASSAPEQUA, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS SMITHTOWN and KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN.

Go away. Smithtown West had a very good year. The boys played well and they should be proud. You should keep your mouth shut. Congratulations to WM, Congrats and good luck to Massapequa.

What happened to that bragging CSH fogo daddy today??? Oh yeah, you lost, goodbye!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the victor goes the spoils. Good Luck Massapequa. Up next Mamaroneck.

What I can say this season showed coaching really matters. It proved itself across all teams from game one to the end. Although the Massapequa Ward Melville game was a sexy billing, it was not a game of the two best teams. Smithtown West for the second year in a row was, over-coached, restrained and sent packing to early. Ward Melville had a good first half in the Suffolk Championship but there was no way they should have been allowed back into that game. Coach, even if you have a 10 goal lead, you should emphasize matching goal for goal in tournament play especially with a dominate Fogo..

This is the second year in a row where your stalling tactic bit you in the butt. Credit to WM's pole #36 but with such a dominate Fogo you play to score. Look at the young coaches at Manhasset and even Smithtown East. Either of those two coaches would have had those West players ready and humming for 4 quarters.

But, that's why you play the games and I am a true believer that the best team doesn't always win. Congratulations to both Ward Meville and Massapequa. MASSAPEQUA, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS SMITHTOWN and KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN.

Sorry....SW not that good. That's why they lost. They had a few good moments this year, but couldn't perform when they needed too. Typical dodos blame the coach instead of their kid who choked when it mattered!

Obviously you didnt see them play this year or you are blinded by the old rose colored glasses and that's okay. They lost, yes, and that is why they play the games, but if you saw them the last few years you will see a pattern.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To the victor goes the spoils. Good Luck Massapequa. Up next Mamaroneck.

What I can say this season showed coaching really matters. It proved itself across all teams from game one to the end. Although the Massapequa Ward Melville game was a sexy billing, it was not a game of the two best teams. Smithtown West for the second year in a row was, over-coached, restrained and sent packing to early. Ward Melville had a good first half in the Suffolk Championship but there was no way they should have been allowed back into that game. Coach, even if you have a 10 goal lead, you should emphasize matching goal for goal in tournament play especially with a dominate Fogo..

This is the second year in a row where your stalling tactic bit you in the butt. Credit to WM's pole #36 but with such a dominate Fogo you play to score. Look at the young coaches at Manhasset and even Smithtown East. Either of those two coaches would have had those West players ready and humming for 4 quarters.

But, that's why you play the games and I am a true believer that the best team doesn't always win. Congratulations to both Ward Meville and Massapequa. MASSAPEQUA, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS SMITHTOWN and KEEP THE PEDAL DOWN.

Sorry....SW not that good. That's why they lost. They had a few good moments this year, but couldn't perform when they needed too. Typical dodos blame the coach instead of their kid who choked when it mattered!

Obviously you didnt see them play this year or you are blinded by the old rose colored glasses and that's okay. They lost, yes, and that is why they play the games, but if you saw them the last few years you will see a pattern.

Yes, a pattern of losses in big games

No Hating just play in a real division for once ,,, Nassau CD is about as weak as it gets ,,, ooops beat by a suffolk C Team ouch!! Always next year : )

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes WM lost to a better team but I really wouldn't say they were outclassed, What did WM do that was so wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Great comeback by SWR, but why were the officials so “call” happy once CSH went up 11-5? To me the officiating. Exams a bit one sided with both calls and non calls. We all know that teams must win despite perceived bias but this was a championship game. How many man ups and goals for SWR once the score was 11-6?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

You have no class. You are a pot stirring little troll. Congrats to Massapequa and Ward Melville on great seasons. Good luck Massapequa, go win the State Championship,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

He won't beat the Roslyn kid and that's a fact.

Roslyn and lacrosse should never be in the same sentence

CSH vs. SWR was a great game. F/O's were even. Momentum shifted and SWR role players stepped up. From CSH dad, good luck to them. SWR F/O guy was really good as a field player as well. Disappointing finish for us, #24 deserved the attention he got, and the rest of his team took advantage. They earned it. Respect. Hope to avenge in '20.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The CSH kid has whooped every F/O he has faced this season(including the guy he goes against in practice every day) with the exception of the John Jay kid. That includes Manhasset and the kid from Massapequa (granted it was a scrimmage). He is very good. As for age, he would qualify for every tournament for '20s that US Lacrosse has established age guidelines for so stop whining...Ask your son if he is good and he'll tell you.

He won't beat the Roslyn kid and that's a fact.

Roslyn !!!!!!!! Who do they play The Sisters of the Poor ! Stop it !

So it's our fault the they can't figure out how to properly rank and schedule the conferences. Comments about schedules coming from a guy who plays in the smallest group on LI and just got bounced. Take your Rover and head back to the North Shore...

Congrats to SWR. Momentum turned and they capitalized. SWR Face off kid was excellent, as a middie and not just a fogo. FO's stats were about even. Both kids played well. Swr role players stepped up with the focus on the unc commit. Good game between two strong programs. Good luck upstate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Outclassed? Yet another stunad with absolutely no command of the English language. Yes, maybe outplayed, but not out classed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

I would say we are a top PUBLIC school on LI. you understand what that means right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes WM lost to a better team but I really wouldn't say they were outclassed, What did WM do that was so wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Agreed. We were certainly outplayed and out-hustled, but not sure what "outclassed" is supposed to mean. The better team won, just wish our boys made it more competitive. They just didn't have it that day. It was obvious from the opening face off. Pequa had a good game plan and played it out well. They weren't going to let us get a juice goal and go on one of our runs. Even on equal rest I think they still beat us - cant win without the ball. Congrats to Pequa and good luck the rest of the way representing LI in the state championship run. They deserve to be there, they definitely earned it. Hope they take it all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to SWR. Momentum turned and they capitalized. SWR Face off kid was excellent, as a middie and not just a fogo. FO's stats were about even. Both kids played well. Swr role players stepped up with the focus on the unc commit. Good game between two strong programs. Good luck upstate.

The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

"The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates."

Funny you should say that. While I do not have a stat sheet in front of me, I felt CSH did better in 2H than in 1H on face offs. Would love to see the quarterly results. Also, you must not have been at the game. What changed the game was a 2 minute non releasable penalty which SWR took advantage of and scored two goals off of and then CSH continued to be flagged for penalties and had a number of turnovers (a few of the unforced variety) causing them to have few offensive opportunities in the 2nd half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates."

Funny you should say that. While I do not have a stat sheet in front of me, I felt CSH did better in 2H than in 1H on face offs. Would love to see the quarterly results. Also, you must not have been at the game. What changed the game was a 2 minute non releasable penalty which SWR took advantage of and scored two goals off of and then CSH continued to be flagged for penalties and had a number of turnovers (a few of the unforced variety) causing them to have few offensive opportunities in the 2nd half.

Hmmm...SWR fogo was MVP, nuff said! No go back to your reps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

It would appear you have done the same!

How prophetic......:.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates."

Funny you should say that. While I do not have a stat sheet in front of me, I felt CSH did better in 2H than in 1H on face offs. Would love to see the quarterly results. Also, you must not have been at the game. What changed the game was a 2 minute non releasable penalty which SWR took advantage of and scored two goals off of and then CSH continued to be flagged for penalties and had a number of turnovers (a few of the unforced variety) causing them to have few offensive opportunities in the 2nd half.

wow, does that sound like sour grapes or what? So now CSH lost because of the officiating.....unreal. Typical considering the team we're talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

I just finished watching this game on HUDL and I'm neither a Pequa or WM parent/fan/hater. The Pequa fogo got away with at least 3 procedures and some of the call were totally pro Pequa. I would love to know the make up of those ref and if they were Nassau or Suffolk refs.

He scored four goals and played a great game, as did his younger brother. No argument there and never questioned his being a good player. Way to win with class. Don't taint your boys accomplishment by being a vindictive arse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

I just finished watching this game on HUDL and I'm neither a Pequa or WM parent/fan/hater. The Pequa fogo got away with at least 3 procedures and some of the call were totally pro Pequa. I would love to know the make up of those ref and if they were Nassau or Suffolk refs.

Oh please, if you think the refs were the reason WM lost you have no lacrosse knowledge. It wasn't a 1 or 2 goal game. I'm sure the $90 a game refs really cared who won. They probably put a really big bet on the game in Vegas!! How ridiculous.

Interesting BOTC is picking top teams😮 what a joke! Politics as usual without actually looking into what kids actually did. DISGUSTING!!!!! 🤮

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting BOTC is picking top teams😮 what a joke! Politics as usual without actually looking into what kids actually did. DISGUSTING!!!!! 🤮

Seems like anyone can throw their biased opinions out their under the farce of a “top list” comical!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates."

Funny you should say that. While I do not have a stat sheet in front of me, I felt CSH did better in 2H than in 1H on face offs. Would love to see the quarterly results. Also, you must not have been at the game. What changed the game was a 2 minute non releasable penalty which SWR took advantage of and scored two goals off of and then CSH continued to be flagged for penalties and had a number of turnovers (a few of the unforced variety) causing them to have few offensive opportunities in the 2nd half.

wow, does that sound like sour grapes or what? So now CSH lost because of the officiating.....unreal. Typical considering the team we're talking about.

unreal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"The fogo who wins during the second half is usually the better kid, in this case it changed the game. The "Stat" is meaningless. Sometimes it takes a little while to figure the other kids habbits out, then the better kid dominates."

Funny you should say that. While I do not have a stat sheet in front of me, I felt CSH did better in 2H than in 1H on face offs. Would love to see the quarterly results. Also, you must not have been at the game. What changed the game was a 2 minute non releasable penalty which SWR took advantage of and scored two goals off of and then CSH continued to be flagged for penalties and had a number of turnovers (a few of the unforced variety) causing them to have few offensive opportunities in the 2nd half.

wow, does that sound like sour grapes or what? So now CSH lost because of the officiating.....unreal. Typical considering the team we're talking about.

unreal

WM, lost by 5, yet the refs were the difference!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored four goals and played a great game, as did his younger brother. No argument there and never questioned his being a good player. Way to win with class. Don't taint your boys accomplishment by being a vindictive arse.

thanks natalie

I am a little sick and tired of people defending these refs. I am now a dad, but at one time I was a HS coach and I was also a referee. I sound old I'm not, just passed the 50 threshold. In my day, the refs did not act like they do today. If you looked out of shape and ref'd you hustled to get to your side of the field of vision. You proved you deserved to be on the field. Each game you proved to be on that field. If you couldn't or didn't they would have kicked you out. Or you went to the worst neighborhoods and weren't in the games that mattered. Maybe if there was some oversight on the ref's they wouldn't be so bad. Maybe if there was oversight and training on them there wouldn't be as much complaining and moaning from the sidelines. Maybe like everything else if there was a shred of accountability, things would be so bad.

Some say "leave them alone", "you are abusing them", "they are only getting paid $xx". Are you out of your god darn minds. If you are one that says that you are part of the problem. There are getting paid to do a job. Do it to the best of your ability and if you cant do the job or dont like it quit. Yes, you heard me quit. If you can't do the job, a job that demands perfection in its craft, quit. Maybe attrition, addition by subtraction is the best thing. The best refs are the ones you do not notice, if you do that the best refs or the ones that want to be good will stay and appreciate it.

You blow one commanding blast. You throw the flag, not to garner attention from the crowd but, solely for the players awareness. You control the game from the beginning, through to half time and ref the game the same in the beginning of the game as you do the last 2 minutes. There is no, he is letting them play, or the score is out of control so they get away with things! NO!!!! How many times have you seen a losing team get away with a head slash (and dont get me started with that, the rule was changed, it is not arbitrary) You adhere to the rules until that horn blows.

They say there is a shortage of officials, you want to know another reason for the shortage, not just parents (those are the lazy refs that arent really any good saying that). It is because the good refs dont want to ref with the bad ones and no one is weeding them out!

Yes, there is a problem but the solution isnt ONLY monitoring the parents. and dont tell me it is worse now than ever. It isnt, there is just a lot more games being played than before!!!!

Solution, my college coach made us take certain courses that would ensure, even if a player failed out of school, they could coach at the HS level. He went as far as promoted 1/2 the team to become refs. How many colleges are there on LI alone 13. Hofstra, Stony Brook, LIU Post, Adelphi NYIT, Molloy, Merchant Marine Academy, Farmingdale, St Joe's, Nassau and Suffolk. We are talking 30-50 kids. with 10 new kids each year. Make them take the coaching course. Little secret you become better players when you do!

Heck NY State, Bobby Zayas, (No i wont call you Dr. you dont deserve it in my book, you dont advocate for the kids) How dare you go on national television! If you are so worried, why not offer a solution like, offering the course for free twice a year. You say you dont have the power to do that and that you are just a spokesman for the state, well get with your cronies at your cushy meetings. Get with the state and finally do something.

To me, you are in your 7th year in the position, you are not part of the solution. Nothing is better, you are enabling, and actually part of the problem! It was once asked what does the NYSPHSAA actually do, that answer is different today that it was then. NYSPHSAA is a joke, no meat and bones, they have no authority and are ruled by the sections. (and that was what you wanted) . That is a problem! The answer to what does the NYSPHSAA do, it is still nothing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored four goals and played a great game, as did his younger brother. No argument there and never questioned his being a good player. Way to win with class. Don't taint your boys accomplishment by being a vindictive arse.

thanks natalie

Relax CSH jealousy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

It would appear you have done the same!

Great end of the year for WM good luck Pequa

Good luck to all the boys who advanced in the Suffolk Tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

It would appear you have done the same!

You think that's being a hater? Really? Then "it would appear" you are not very perceptive. Seems like you really need to explore these posts more and read where people are anonymously insulting a high school lacrosse player(s), coaches, parents, entire communities, etc. May enlighten you a bit. Or you are just hyper-sensitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck to all the boys who advanced in the Suffolk Tryouts

Waste of time, the event has gone downhill quickly. Too many conflicts with summer ball, and very few of the top players even bother anymore, so it's definitely not a prestigious representation of the top plays as it was a few years ago. Just another money grab.

Congrats to Massapequa and SWR on reaching the State championship game. Bring it home to LI where it belongs. Tough loss for Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a little sick and tired of people defending these refs. I am now a dad, but at one time I was a HS coach and I was also a referee. I sound old I'm not, just passed the 50 threshold. In my day, the refs did not act like they do today. If you looked out of shape and ref'd you hustled to get to your side of the field of vision. You proved you deserved to be on the field. Each game you proved to be on that field. If you couldn't or didn't they would have kicked you out. Or you went to the worst neighborhoods and weren't in the games that mattered. Maybe if there was some oversight on the ref's they wouldn't be so bad. Maybe if there was oversight and training on them there wouldn't be as much complaining and moaning from the sidelines. Maybe like everything else if there was a shred of accountability, things would be so bad.

Some say "leave them alone", "you are abusing them", "they are only getting paid $xx". Are you out of your god darn minds. If you are one that says that you are part of the problem. There are getting paid to do a job. Do it to the best of your ability and if you cant do the job or dont like it quit. Yes, you heard me quit. If you can't do the job, a job that demands perfection in its craft, quit. Maybe attrition, addition by subtraction is the best thing. The best refs are the ones you do not notice, if you do that the best refs or the ones that want to be good will stay and appreciate it.

You blow one commanding blast. You throw the flag, not to garner attention from the crowd but, solely for the players awareness. You control the game from the beginning, through to half time and ref the game the same in the beginning of the game as you do the last 2 minutes. There is no, he is letting them play, or the score is out of control so they get away with things! NO!!!! How many times have you seen a losing team get away with a head slash (and dont get me started with that, the rule was changed, it is not arbitrary) You adhere to the rules until that horn blows.

They say there is a shortage of officials, you want to know another reason for the shortage, not just parents (those are the lazy refs that arent really any good saying that). It is because the good refs dont want to ref with the bad ones and no one is weeding them out!

Yes, there is a problem but the solution isnt ONLY monitoring the parents. and dont tell me it is worse now than ever. It isnt, there is just a lot more games being played than before!!!!

Solution, my college coach made us take certain courses that would ensure, even if a player failed out of school, they could coach at the HS level. He went as far as promoted 1/2 the team to become refs. How many colleges are there on LI alone 13. Hofstra, Stony Brook, LIU Post, Adelphi NYIT, Molloy, Merchant Marine Academy, Farmingdale, St Joe's, Nassau and Suffolk. We are talking 30-50 kids. with 10 new kids each year. Make them take the coaching course. Little secret you become better players when you do!

Heck NY State, Bobby Zayas, (No i wont call you Dr. you dont deserve it in my book, you dont advocate for the kids) How dare you go on national television! If you are so worried, why not offer a solution like, offering the course for free twice a year. You say you dont have the power to do that and that you are just a spokesman for the state, well get with your cronies at your cushy meetings. Get with the state and finally do something.

To me, you are in your 7th year in the position, you are not part of the solution. Nothing is better, you are enabling, and actually part of the problem! It was once asked what does the NYSPHSAA actually do, that answer is different today that it was then. NYSPHSAA is a joke, no meat and bones, they have no authority and are ruled by the sections. (and that was what you wanted) . That is a problem! The answer to what does the NYSPHSAA do, it is still nothing!

All playoff refs are selected based ratings of the coaches throughout the year. And nobody does varsity games at the start. It is after a number of years of experience. They must hone their craft at middle school and JV. These playoff games are being officiated by the best refs in the state. In fact, a lot of them do college as well (like the Ivy league championship). And like any ref, at any level, they are human. If anybody thinks they can become one. Go to the classes in the winter, pass the class and you're in.

Massapequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Surprise W Melville was Dominated, can't win when you can't win a face off ,, totally outclassed by clearly a better team ...

Yes, just like when Massapequa played Chaminade. Totally outclassed by clearly a better team.

Why would you post that about WM? Hahaha...Hey, 4th best team is Nassau, good luck against Mamaroneck.

Well that would mean WM would be at best the 10th best team in Nassau. Amateur

Something tells me that the poster you are responding too is not a WM person. Probably one of your competitors from Nassau taking a shot at you and you took the bait. Just focus on winning states and don't start dogging out a team that has done a heck of a lot of winning over the past few years. WM didn't get on here and dog you out the past 2 years we sent you packing in the LIC. So enjoy the win and focus on your next opponent. Thats what true champions do. Good luck in States and don't get suckered in by the haters.

It would appear you have done the same!

You think that's being a hater? Really? Then "it would appear" you are not very perceptive. Seems like you really need to explore these posts more and read where people are anonymously insulting a high school lacrosse player(s), coaches, parents, entire communities, etc. May enlighten you a bit. Or you are just hyper-sensitive.

Relax princess, it’s an anonymous site with strangers posting. Little self reflection on the “hyper sensitive “ comment may help you.

What happened to Crush? They didn't even make it to the finals of their own tournament! Maybe those "throwback" Jerseys were a throwback to the last time they lost to the Crabs. So much parity amongst the top teams now, anyone can beat anyone. no top dog

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Crush? They didn't even make it to the finals of their own tournament! Maybe those "throwback" Jerseys were a throwback to the last time they lost to the Crabs. So much parity amongst the top teams now, anyone can beat anyone. no top dog

now you know how valuable the state champions are to the team now. better work on getting a couple more kids to move into sinia.....

Crush? Club teams are over guy. Its individual showcases as this point. Crush ruled the 20's from inception to the end this fall when all the kids got picked up. Seriously no one cares. You are the lone dissenter. lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush? Club teams are over guy. Its individual showcases as this point. Crush ruled the 20's from inception to the end this fall when all the kids got picked up. Seriously no one cares. You are the lone dissenter. lost.

JS and lilJ care!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

"Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!"

...Now that is a stretch. A big one. Both regarding the "couple of calls" and then next two games. Stay humble Patriot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Can;t win a faceoff, lose by 5 goals and crying about a couple calls? Who's the Clown - Clown? The State Plague says Massapequa by the way ,, TaTa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Can;t win a faceoff, lose by 5 goals and crying about a couple calls? Who's the Clown - Clown? The State Plague says Massapequa by the way ,, TaTa

Still more than SW will ever have. I stand by my original statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Can;t win a faceoff, lose by 5 goals and crying about a couple calls? Who's the Clown - Clown? The State Plague says Massapequa by the way ,, TaTa

Still more than SW will ever have. I stand by my original statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

Take a peek at the State Plaque and get back to me you SW clown. Couple of calls by the refs in the LIC and we have one more title!

Can;t win a faceoff, lose by 5 goals and crying about a couple calls? Who's the Clown - Clown? The State Plague says Massapequa by the way ,, TaTa

Still more than SW will ever have. I stand by my original statement.

Probably right but just find it very amusing that you call any team over rated (no matter who it is) when the team you root for proved to be the most over rated team in the country? A top 5 ranking in the Nation to 179th and finally at 22nd in the state ,, That's the definition of OVER-RATED I stand by the Facts : )

Someone please give me the process of All County selection. It's starting to look more like a participation award for quite a few selections.

can someone on the north shore please talk JS off of the ledge.starting to get embarrassing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching at Smithtown West ... WOW

Smithtown west was overrated and exposed. Just not at the same level as WM

Not sure about that as West didn't even crack the top 25 in the National pre season rankings whereas W Melville was top 5 in under armour's poll and top 10 in US Lacrosse Mag? That's pretty much being Grossly Over rated Thank Goodness Melville's goalie single-handedly winning 60% of their games for them Heck if the kid plays great again this coming season they just may finish over .500?

You are correct and the original poster is wrong: WM was grossly overrated going into the season. And SW was overlooked and underrated. But you need to get over pre-season rankings because you had a chance to knock out the defending champ when it mattered most and didn't get it done. To say the WM goalie (as good as he is) "single - handedly" won over 60% of their games means you didn't watch many WM games this year, your kids play club ball together so he's the only kid on WM to whom you will give credit, or you believe what you read in the Newsday wrap ups where he is the only kid on WM to whom they give credit. Speaking of next season, good luck when you don't have a super-elite fogo. Coming on here and whining about meaningless pre-season rankings only makes us enjoy that OT win even more. "We are Smithtown West, we have a 3:1 possession advantage in every game and still cant get to the LIC! Life after CC, what do we do now?! Whah, its our coaches fault, whah! Now i have to sit at my kid's travel tournaments with those horrible WM people knowing we talked smack all year and lost, whah!" Shoulda, woulda, coulda - didn't!

Lastly, congrats to Pequa for winning the states. They were the much better team in the LIC and it had nothing to do with the refs at all - that's nonsense, for those posting otherwise on this thread. They completely dominated us from whistle to whistle and WM folks know that if they are being honest with themselves.

Reply as you see fit, but it will be to an empty house - moving on to the next phase now. Goodbye BOTC, it was fun.

Get over your SW you are crying and barking at the same time.stink it up and stop being Childish. The only person you be barking an crying is your Coach..

All County is picked by the coach of your HS. If your son didn’t get it, his coach didn’t submit his name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All County is picked by the coach of your HS. If your son didn’t get it, his coach didn’t submit his name.

Yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All County is picked by the coach of your HS. If your son didn’t get it, his coach didn’t submit his name.

Yes.

All teams are represented. Probably not fair but that’s how it is

It should also be noted that each team gets a certain number of spots depending where their team finishes in the division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should also be noted that each team gets a certain number of spots depending where their team finishes in the division

What is that breakdown? Is it the same for All-American?

Not 100% sure but AA is not related to teams or their record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It should also be noted that each team gets a certain number of spots depending where their team finishes in the division

What is that breakdown? Is it the same for All-American?

Where All County awards are selected/picked by their respective coaches, the AA awards are voted on by the coaches collectively. So its different.

Did Dennis Bonn step down as the Head Coach at Cold Spring Harbor?

Lol. No he did not....

Happy Fathers Day lax daddy’s

Not really....based off where you finish you get put at a table...1-7 8-15 16-23
based off your finish you get a set number of all divisions...then you have to argue those players out at your table..so your coach could have you as his 4th All Division guy put you up for All county but get out voted...

Few things Ill touch on

1). Bonn should have been let go years ago, right after he slapped that kid on the side of the helmet. That was no love tap. If I remember correctly that game was on MSG varsity. Right in the T/O Huddle.

2). WM & SW were good teams who knows what overrated is. I saw lots of lacrosse this year, some top teams looked pedestrian at times, at other times those same teams looked like AA. Had you seen the SA vs Cham II game you would have thought those two team was tops in the country (wait they are). BUT, had you seen some of their other games you may not have been so impressed. No one/two games makes a team good or bad.

3). SW coach doesn't know how to win the big game. Second year in a row he blows it. Shame there wasn't much of a challenge off the island.

4). Ref abuse in HS. Please, referees need to keep their mouths shut and cannot confront the crowd either before, during or after the game. Each school is supposed to have a field deputy to address the fans. One team got a raw deal a few times this year. but the most egregious was watching the referees drinking beers in the parking lot with the WI nning parents after a playoff game. Where was Newsday for that picture.

5). Funny how close the teams ended to where they were ranked in the preseason.

6) All County and All American.

All County
What is the process. Someone please confirm the whole process step by step.
Do the particular coaches get a certain # of players they can nominate depending on the rank of how they finished the regular season?
Then do all coaches vote on each school nominations? Eliminating some of a team nominations or is it the ole Quid pro Quo. ill vote for your you vote for mine. or are some school bullies or no coach really cares, and whomever a coach nominates gets the distinction
Does a player who wasnt nominated by a coach get brought up by another coach? Lets say a coach doesnt see a particular player that burnt or dominated them get nominate, Do they ask the other coaches how did this player did against them and nominate them?

All American
What is this process
I followed a few teams this year and focused on a few positions. While all of the All Americans picked where good picks, I believe one player was clearly the best at his position but due to low preseason fan-far got robbed. I wouldn't say completely robbed but robbed not the less. The player I am speaking of hit a late growth spurt and was never on a powerhouse travel team, if even on a travel team the past 2 years. . Player was not on a championship team but because of him, his team was a contender. In reviewing film, has more stats than any other in his position. When the All County selections were presented, this may have been the first time the potential AA were standing next to each other. And although stature has nothing to do with being picked, the eye test shocked me on how much bigger the player not selected was in comparison. Are some of these players picked on reputation? not current years achievements? Additionally, Is there also some prerequisite that a nominated athlete needs to be a returning all county player?

7). 90% of the Best players ive seen through the years have been the best most of the years they've been playing.

8) Turtles or Crush, who cares both were probably the best teams ive seen.

9) Why cant LI just find a way to put all the best players on a field at one time. Maybe that will happen, there was a time when i never thought 91 would get a chance to play express, and here we are 91 players are dominating St. Anthony's.

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Congratulations to all of the boys who were invited to try out for the US U-19 Team. It is an honor to be invited to this event.
Special shout out to all of the boys who made it to the next round. What an honor these young men have been given, thank you US Lacrosse. The players who were given the opportunity to participate will remember this tryout for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, this event does not come around every year so not all of the great players get the opportunity to compete. This event along with the Under Armour Senior All-America Game are by far the two most prestigious honors that a high school lacrosse player can receive. Congratulations to all.

Go USA!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

So many events at all ages lose something year over year. The only one that seems to stick is Showtime. I remember the Brine and Jake Reed were so sought after. In fact, Jake Reed you had to fly to Florida to tryout, now you just sign up. Just changing dynamics is all. For example, when another Long Island team wins the World Series next week, that will start to lose some sizzle, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

The real problem is the delusional parents who can not take it when other players receive more recognition, make a team, get ranked ahead of or get recruited by better programs than their child. Many of these parents cry BS and or politics every time. Some have gone to the extent to not even have their kid try out because they are afraid of the kid not making it. You can only make so many excuses. It is not always politics, sometimes your kid is not as good as you think he is. We have some parents on my sons team that absolutely believe that their kid is the best. When the kids do not play well its always someone elses fault. They are extremely critical of every other player on the field but when their kid makes a mistake or plays poorly they make excuses. It's actually funny to listen to them on the sideline. When the team doesn't win these parents are the first to point fingers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

The real problem is the delusional parents who can not take it when other players receive more recognition, make a team, get ranked ahead of or get recruited by better programs than their child. Many of these parents cry BS and or politics every time. Some have gone to the extent to not even have their kid try out because they are afraid of the kid not making it. You can only make so many excuses. It is not always politics, sometimes your kid is not as good as you think he is. We have some parents on my sons team that absolutely believe that their kid is the best. When the kids do not play well its always someone elses fault. They are extremely critical of every other player on the field but when their kid makes a mistake or plays poorly they make excuses. It's actually funny to listen to them on the sideline. When the team doesn't win these parents are the first to point fingers.

I totally hear what you are saying. You say, "it is not always politics" I agree. But when is it politics; when the coach and parents grew up in the same town and attended the same H.S., when one or several parents are teachers in the particular district, how about a parent is a principal in that district. And I didn't even go down the road, where parents have a friend on the BOE. It isn't as simple as you say it is.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE LONG ISLAND BOYS WHO MADE THE U19 USA CUT , A GREAT HONOR JUST TO BE INVITED ... GOOD LUCK IN NEXT ROUND

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

The real problem is the delusional parents who can not take it when other players receive more recognition, make a team, get ranked ahead of or get recruited by better programs than their child. Many of these parents cry BS and or politics every time. Some have gone to the extent to not even have their kid try out because they are afraid of the kid not making it. You can only make so many excuses. It is not always politics, sometimes your kid is not as good as you think he is. We have some parents on my sons team that absolutely believe that their kid is the best. When the kids do not play well its always someone elses fault. They are extremely critical of every other player on the field but when their kid makes a mistake or plays poorly they make excuses. It's actually funny to listen to them on the sideline. When the team doesn't win these parents are the first to point fingers.

I totally hear what you are saying. You say, "it is not always politics" I agree. But when is it politics; when the coach and parents grew up in the same town and attended the same H.S., when one or several parents are teachers in the particular district, how about a parent is a principal in that district. And I didn't even go down the road, where parents have a friend on the BOE. It isn't as simple as you say it is.

Funny how kids are mysteriously showing up on the UA Highlight roster! What a SS this event is becoming, has lost all credibility. It's pay to play baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE LONG ISLAND BOYS WHO MADE THE U19 USA CUT , A GREAT HONOR JUST TO BE INVITED ... GOOD LUCK IN NEXT ROUND

Yes, Congrats to all who attended. One of if not the most prestigious events out there. Great experience for all who attended, the best of the best were there and all of the boys will have great memories. Tremendous honor to be ask to represent your country. The U19 Tryouts and The Under Armour Senior All-American Game are the two highest honors a high school player can receive. Good Luck to all of the players moving on to the next round and good luck and have fun to the Seniors playing in the Under Armor Game. Two great honors and experiences.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

The real problem is the delusional parents who can not take it when other players receive more recognition, make a team, get ranked ahead of or get recruited by better programs than their child. Many of these parents cry BS and or politics every time. Some have gone to the extent to not even have their kid try out because they are afraid of the kid not making it. You can only make so many excuses. It is not always politics, sometimes your kid is not as good as you think he is. We have some parents on my sons team that absolutely believe that their kid is the best. When the kids do not play well its always someone elses fault. They are extremely critical of every other player on the field but when their kid makes a mistake or plays poorly they make excuses. It's actually funny to listen to them on the sideline. When the team doesn't win these parents are the first to point fingers.

I totally hear what you are saying. You say, "it is not always politics" I agree. But when is it politics; when the coach and parents grew up in the same town and attended the same H.S., when one or several parents are teachers in the particular district, how about a parent is a principal in that district. And I didn't even go down the road, where parents have a friend on the BOE. It isn't as simple as you say it is.

Funny how kids are mysteriously showing up on the UA Highlight roster! What a SS this event is becoming, has lost all credibility. It's pay to play baby!

Are the 2020's who are still in the mix for U19 allowed to play at Under Armor? Would they even go if they were allowed? I would not have my son participate in UA if he were trying out for U19.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

Many times Long Island has a difficult time at Under Armour is that it is a grade based tournament and some regions have players that are more physically mature for the command division. The highlight division tryout was lightly attended which was surprising

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

You forgot 13 out of 50 still in the running for U19 ARE from LI.

This years LI UA team is the weakest I've ever seen. None of the better kids are doing it, many have bailed. When kids need to be invited to play on the team without trying out, you know the event has lost prestige. Maverick is still the best event, although that has taken a downturn as well. The most important thing is to play on a top club team, and be a starter. Club coaches are in constant contact with the big time coaches. That's how my son was recruited. Coaches are looking for team players, contributors. It's not all about goals scored, but rather making everyone around you better, and finding ways to win as a team. Be a catalyst. That said, if your kid does not play for a top team, and/or, is going into senior year unrecruited, I would do any event where there will be coaches. Time is ticking. Otherwise UA is a nice way to blow 1000$ and hours of misery on the Belt Pkwy in the hopes of being mentioned by Ty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

You forgot 13 out of 50 still in the running for U19 ARE from LI.

How many of the 50 play for Club Teams that are in The NLF?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

You my friend are delusional and yes most of the earlier comments are accurate. Under Armour was a great event at one time and is starting to lose it luster. Coaching staffs, tryouts and yes politics are getting out of control. Especially on Long Island. The best Long Island kids do not represent this years teams. Most chose not to participate because of all the BS. If you are from another Region and come out on top of the Long Island this weekend, Pound your chest all you want. You did not beat the best we have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

You my friend are delusional and yes most of the earlier comments are accurate. Under Armour was a great event at one time and is starting to lose it luster. Coaching staffs, tryouts and yes politics are getting out of control. Especially on Long Island. The best Long Island kids do not represent this years teams. Most chose not to participate because of all the BS. If you are from another Region and come out on top of the Long Island this weekend, Pound your chest all you want. You did not beat the best we have.

Maybe UA Underclass has lost a little luster but for many years this was a great event. That said , delusional parents have been crying politics for a long time. Enough already with the politics BS . The top players, club teams and HS teams from around the country are as good if not better than the players, club teams and HS teams from Long Island. There are a lot of great players on the Island but as the post above indicates there are a lot of other areas producing great players as well. I was actually surprised by the breakdown of where the All-Americans came from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years UA selections have got to be the most bizarre ever. The best talent is not even trying out anymore. Biased coaches pulling more strings than ever behind the scenes. Kids from LI trying out for different regions (thought that wasn’t allowed??) Head coaches picking their sub par sons. What the heck is going on????

Bla Bla Bla... So many delusional parents out there. The best kids make the team. That said, there are only so many spots and some really good players do not make the team. UA should do a Nassau and a Suffolk Team.

Haha, that’s funny, HS Coaches were calling their better players and practically begging them to play for free because the pickings were so slim. Not a top event anymore. Everyone sick of the BS. LI team in big trouble

"LI team in big trouble" ...

I call BS. I have been hearing that same nonsense for years. There is a contingent of folks who desperately want to believe that Long Island Lacrosse is King. When a Long Island Team does not win at Under Armor they claim it is because of politics. They claim that the best players were not selected. They want to blame everything on politics and say that the tryout was not fair. We have heard it over and over on this site Long Island Is the best. We have even heard it broken down to certain Leagues and certain towns. The reality is that there is a lot of Great Lacrosse played off the Island. If Long Island does not win Under Armour in 2019 it will not be because the tryouts were not fair it will be because the other teams were better and there is a lot of talent in other areas of the country.

Take a look at The 2019 Division I All-Americans:

1 out of 17 First Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 17 Second Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
2 out of 19 Third Team All-Americans were from Long Island.
5 out of 51 Honorable Mention All-Americans were from Long Island.

Thats 13 out of 104 from Long Island. Thats 12.5% .

The moral of the story is.... Don't Believe the BS that some people spew. If you have a younger kid who you think has potential get him out their in the "real lacrosse" world. The "high end club" circuit is where the best competition is. HS lacrosse is all well and good but it is not competitive. College coaches are at the best club events run by NLF and showcases like Maverik. UA has been a great event with just about every college (head coach) in attendance in past years.

Good Luck to all but don't believe the BS.

You my friend are delusional and yes most of the earlier comments are accurate. Under Armour was a great event at one time and is starting to lose it luster. Coaching staffs, tryouts and yes politics are getting out of control. Especially on Long Island. The best Long Island kids do not represent this years teams. Most chose not to participate because of all the BS. If you are from another Region and come out on top of the Long Island this weekend, Pound your chest all you want. You did not beat the best we have.

Maybe UA Underclass has lost a little luster but for many years this was a great event. That said , delusional parents have been crying politics for a long time. Enough already with the politics BS . The top players, club teams and HS teams from around the country are as good if not better than the players, club teams and HS teams from Long Island. There are a lot of great players on the Island but as the post above indicates there are a lot of other areas producing great players as well. I was actually surprised by the breakdown of where the All-Americans came from.

Great event?...... Yawn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE LONG ISLAND BOYS WHO MADE THE U19 USA CUT , A GREAT HONOR JUST TO BE INVITED ... GOOD LUCK IN NEXT ROUND

Yes, awesome to move on, my son was one of them. However you have to wonder how 7 OSU commits got through. I saw many other players much more deserving. Several OSU players did absolutely nothing and moved on over many other much more impressive players. Seems Coach Myers played the same game last round, kept his own recruits who panned out to be college nothing’s. I’m a little worried that he’ll do the same this time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years LI UA team is the weakest I've ever seen. None of the better kids are doing it, many have bailed. When kids need to be invited to play on the team without trying out, you know the event has lost prestige. Maverick is still the best event, although that has taken a downturn as well. The most important thing is to play on a top club team, and be a starter. Club coaches are in constant contact with the big time coaches. That's how my son was recruited. Coaches are looking for team players, contributors. It's not all about goals scored, but rather making everyone around you better, and finding ways to win as a team. Be a catalyst. That said, if your kid does not play for a top team, and/or, is going into senior year unrecruited, I would do any event where there will be coaches. Time is ticking. Otherwise UA is a nice way to blow 1000$ and hours of misery on the Belt Pkwy in the hopes of being mentioned by Ty!

What a keyboard warrior you are! Knocking high school kids from your darkened basement. No serious parent of a legitimate college recruit would write a post like yours above. Good luck to the boys art UA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This years LI UA team is the weakest I've ever seen. None of the better kids are doing it, many have bailed. When kids need to be invited to play on the team without trying out, you know the event has lost prestige. Maverick is still the best event, although that has taken a downturn as well. The most important thing is to play on a top club team, and be a starter. Club coaches are in constant contact with the big time coaches. That's how my son was recruited. Coaches are looking for team players, contributors. It's not all about goals scored, but rather making everyone around you better, and finding ways to win as a team. Be a catalyst. That said, if your kid does not play for a top team, and/or, is going into senior year unrecruited, I would do any event where there will be coaches. Time is ticking. Otherwise UA is a nice way to blow 1000$ and hours of misery on the Belt Pkwy in the hopes of being mentioned by Ty!

What a keyboard warrior you are! Knocking high school kids from your darkened basement. No serious parent of a legitimate college recruit would write a post like yours above. Good luck to the boys art UA.

The original poster talks club, being a team player and making everyone around you look better. How about telling me all the sub par players on the top club teams? There are none, every kid on the top clubs are excellent already. It's easy to shine on these teams where every kid can play great lacrosse. Show me the kid that makes the players around him better, regardless of their talent, that's a player. That's what college coaches are looking for.

how about the cheap shots in LI-South 2022 game.
South parents low class

What do you expect FLG is involved with UA selections ( talk about coaches bias). Coaches bias will always be a factor but the good college Coaches want to WIN and that is why they run there own recruiting showcases yes somewhat of a money grab. Find the Schools you like make sure you match up academically and play your heart out and let them know your interested with an email . Probably best times are summers after sophomore and junior years. If they like they will look you up and maybe you get an invite. Also to the comments about needing to play on best club teams, sounds like a CLUB leader sounding off trying to protect there money train . Best multi-sport athletes will almost always rise to the top. Playing multiple sports keeps you healthy and fresh. With regards to these Maverick and UA chosen teams if you have the money go for it. However, if you have not hit puberty or are just starting don't waste your time, size always gets the best looks.

yes agree also most juniors and seniors that play on a competitive HS teams stop playing club. They do College showcases and play for there HS team in competitive showcases

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes agree also most juniors and seniors that play on a competitive HS teams stop playing club. They do College showcases and play for there HS team in competitive showcases

Thanks for the update WM dad. "Most"? I don't think so. The top kids are enjoying playing the last summer with their club teams. Why would you do a college showcase if you're already committed?

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Beware of the multi sport, a torn ACL before Senior it Junior year is crushing. If your kid wants to play college lacrosse focus on it last two years. Trust me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

That’s bad news for The LI Highlight team. Getting crushed at every position! That’s what happens when the better kids don’t want to be bothered with it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

That’s bad news for The LI Highlight team. Getting crushed at every position! That’s what happens when the better kids don’t want to be bothered with it!

It’s a disaster....Long Island looks horrible. Over whelmed in every game? They will most likely end up the 12th seed out of 12 teams. Big swing from undeafeated and winning the championships game 2 years ago.

1. They had 4 attackmen and one got hurt, leaving them with 3. They were supposed to have 6.
2. They had one 1 hr walk through practice the night before. Other UA teams have been together for weeks and have had 5-6 practices
3. Top 3 players who made team dropped off because of U-19. Other teams had U-19 players who stuck it out and still played in UA
4. Certain committed players took the weekend off and only played hard when their future college coaches were watching. Not a great look.

What exactly did you expect? If the team selected had actually shown up and played hard they would have been fine. Results were disappointing, but what blowhards on here cannot accept is that the college coaches don't care. There were 20 or more at every game including every major D1 program. The point is to get seen and recruited. By the way, there were also some very good players on the team.....

Everyone is done with the lacrosse Mafia-especially on LI.
Its about what travel team you belong to and how much you spend. Rigged for years-Dads coaching lax(big business)
LI hasnt figured it out yet- need to form the best TEAM. USA world team figured it out. Coach K figured it out for olympics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

That’s bad news for The LI Highlight team. Getting crushed at every position! That’s what happens when the better kids don’t want to be bothered with it!

It’s a disaster....Long Island looks horrible. Over whelmed in every game? They will most likely end up the 12th seed out of 12 teams. Big swing from undeafeated and winning the championships game 2 years ago.

Not any better in the Command group, coach JS took his Mnt Sinai team and got bounced in the first round..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

That’s bad news for The LI Highlight team. Getting crushed at every position! That’s what happens when the better kids don’t want to be bothered with it!

It’s a disaster....Long Island looks horrible. Over whelmed in every game? They will most likely end up the 12th seed out of 12 teams. Big swing from undeafeated and winning the championships game 2 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all that say UA isn’t what it once was, that memo hasn’t reached the D1 head coaches. They are all there. Name him and he is there.

That’s bad news for The LI Highlight team. Getting crushed at every position! That’s what happens when the better kids don’t want to be bothered with it!

It’s a disaster....Long Island looks horrible. Over whelmed in every game? They will most likely end up the 12th seed out of 12 teams. Big swing from undeafeated and winning the championships game 2 years ago.

Not any better in the Command group, coach JS took his Mnt Sinai team and got bounced in the first round..

Command was 4-0 beating the eventual champion. highlight was 0-5 command lost to finalists philly have to admit they were good My boy was on highlight I can say with conviction WHAT A mess short handed and unorganized I’ve been in this awhile and this run with highlight was biggest waste of money in my lacrosse time. There was great lacrosse to watch there overall in both divisions just miserably hot 2021 kids getting closer to September 1

What are the HS summer leagues HS are playing

Suffolk or Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the HS summer leagues HS are playing

Suffolk or Nassau

Also any fall JV or varsity leagues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you expect FLG is involved with UA selections ( talk about coaches bias). Coaches bias will always be a factor but the good college Coaches want to WIN and that is why they run there own recruiting showcases yes somewhat of a money grab. Find the Schools you like make sure you match up academically and play your heart out and let them know your interested with an email . Probably best times are summers after sophomore and junior years. If they like they will look you up and maybe you get an invite. Also to the comments about needing to play on best club teams, sounds like a CLUB leader sounding off trying to protect there money train . Best multi-sport athletes will almost always rise to the top. Playing multiple sports keeps you healthy and fresh. With regards to these Maverick and UA chosen teams if you have the money go for it. However, if you have not hit puberty or are just starting don't waste your time, size always gets the best looks.

Not even sure where to begin when responding to your gibberish. But here we go... Bias? Find me a tryout where there is not bias. Coaches and evaluators do not live in bubbles, they are out there in the lacrosse world and they know many of the players and "the top players" are known more so than average players. All college coaches want to win... (not just the good ones). Best time is: "summer after junior year" ? Really? If you do not understand that playing on one of the "best club teams" is important than you really have very little knowledge about player development or the recruiting process. "Best multi-sport athletes will always rise to the top", really? How about the "best athletes" will rise to the top. If the best athlete happens to play more than one sport then all the better. However, simply playing multiple sports does not make an athlete rise to the top. With regard to Maverik and UA , well you really have no clue. As far as size goes, it is one of many factors but it really is not that important in lacrosse. Now, if the player is small, slow, weak, not athletic and has poor lacrosse skills and low lacrosse IQ that is a different story. And with regard to "their money train" nobody is forcing you to play for a club team, If you do not want to pay to play then don't. Unless of course your son attends one of the High Schools that coerces their players into playing for their (for-profit) summer club team that is the real Money Train. Some would call that extortion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you expect FLG is involved with UA selections ( talk about coaches bias). Coaches bias will always be a factor but the good college Coaches want to WIN and that is why they run there own recruiting showcases yes somewhat of a money grab. Find the Schools you like make sure you match up academically and play your heart out and let them know your interested with an email . Probably best times are summers after sophomore and junior years. If they like they will look you up and maybe you get an invite. Also to the comments about needing to play on best club teams, sounds like a CLUB leader sounding off trying to protect there money train . Best multi-sport athletes will almost always rise to the top. Playing multiple sports keeps you healthy and fresh. With regards to these Maverick and UA chosen teams if you have the money go for it. However, if you have not hit puberty or are just starting don't waste your time, size always gets the best looks.

Not even sure where to begin when responding to your gibberish. But here we go... Bias? Find me a tryout where there is not bias. Coaches and evaluators do not live in bubbles, they are out there in the lacrosse world and they know many of the players and "the top players" are known more so than average players. All college coaches want to win... (not just the good ones). Best time is: "summer after junior year" ? Really? If you do not understand that playing on one of the "best club teams" is important than you really have very little knowledge about player development or the recruiting process. "Best multi-sport athletes will always rise to the top", really? How about the "best athletes" will rise to the top. If the best athlete happens to play more than one sport then all the better. However, simply playing multiple sports does not make an athlete rise to the top. With regard to Maverik and UA , well you really have no clue. As far as size goes, it is one of many factors but it really is not that important in lacrosse. Now, if the player is small, slow, weak, not athletic and has poor lacrosse skills and low lacrosse IQ that is a different story. And with regard to "their money train" nobody is forcing you to play for a club team, If you do not want to pay to play then don't. Unless of course your son attends one of the High Schools that coerces their players into playing for their (for-profit) summer club team that is the real Money Train. Some would call that extortion.

Bottom line...LI UA has become a joke. Even more embarrassing is the players announcing last minute that they don't feel like coming, and even worse the woosies that left early because they knew they looked like garbage and tried to mitigate a bad evaluation. Newsflash: anyone can have a bad day/tourney, if I were a college coach, I would cross an entitled self absorbed kid off my list for deserting his team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you expect FLG is involved with UA selections ( talk about coaches bias). Coaches bias will always be a factor but the good college Coaches want to WIN and that is why they run there own recruiting showcases yes somewhat of a money grab. Find the Schools you like make sure you match up academically and play your heart out and let them know your interested with an email . Probably best times are summers after sophomore and junior years. If they like they will look you up and maybe you get an invite. Also to the comments about needing to play on best club teams, sounds like a CLUB leader sounding off trying to protect there money train . Best multi-sport athletes will almost always rise to the top. Playing multiple sports keeps you healthy and fresh. With regards to these Maverick and UA chosen teams if you have the money go for it. However, if you have not hit puberty or are just starting don't waste your time, size always gets the best looks.

Not even sure where to begin when responding to your gibberish. But here we go... Bias? Find me a tryout where there is not bias. Coaches and evaluators do not live in bubbles, they are out there in the lacrosse world and they know many of the players and "the top players" are known more so than average players. All college coaches want to win... (not just the good ones). Best time is: "summer after junior year" ? Really? If you do not understand that playing on one of the "best club teams" is important than you really have very little knowledge about player development or the recruiting process. "Best multi-sport athletes will always rise to the top", really? How about the "best athletes" will rise to the top. If the best athlete happens to play more than one sport then all the better. However, simply playing multiple sports does not make an athlete rise to the top. With regard to Maverik and UA , well you really have no clue. As far as size goes, it is one of many factors but it really is not that important in lacrosse. Now, if the player is small, slow, weak, not athletic and has poor lacrosse skills and low lacrosse IQ that is a different story. And with regard to "their money train" nobody is forcing you to play for a club team, If you do not want to pay to play then don't. Unless of course your son attends one of the High Schools that coerces their players into playing for their (for-profit) summer club team that is the real Money Train. Some would call that extortion.

Bottom line...LI UA has become a joke. Even more embarrassing is the players announcing last minute that they don't feel like coming, and even worse the woosies that left early because they knew they looked like garbage and tried to mitigate a bad evaluation. Newsflash: anyone can have a bad day/tourney, if I were a college coach, I would cross an entitled self absorbed kid off my list for deserting his team.

What club teams had players quit or not show up?

“Woosies “ really?

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

That’s LI for you! Wait till they try to pull that garbage in college and get kicked off the team. These kids think it’s all about them. Very sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

Say what you want. The entire process and tryout selection is a joke. Supposed to be putting the best talent of kids from Long Island on the team to represent the Region. Why than do they take kids from other states? There was never this much confusion over the past few years. Under Armour has become a joke. Yes, lots of coaches at this event however Coaches are at many events in the summer. Save your money, skip Under Armour and focus on your summer/fall tournaments and most importly the college prospect days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

Where is that kid commit to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Poster is not wrong. Three kids took spots then dropped off because of U-19. One U-19 kid stayed on the team, but then just didn't show up on the last day! Literally texted the coach during the game that he wasn't showing up!! Ironically, that was the one game they won. So, you can come on here and bash the coaches and UA, but some of these prima donna kids and their parents can share in the blame. U-19 didn't seem to be an issue for UA players on other teams.....only LI apparently. And what parent lets a kid quit on the team and blow off a UA game by just texting his coach after the game has already started?? Totally unimpressed with many of the selected, committed kids on this team....Good luck to them if they think this is how life works.

Where is that kid commit to?

Really.? What’s the purpose of this information? What if the information above is incorrect and he did call the coach. You my friend are a lost.....

Who is headed to Naptown this weekend or Who is playing with their high school team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is headed to Naptown this weekend or Who is playing with their high school team?

My son is. I'll have him call you

Stop crying already. Fact is every region who had U19 players were impacted in some way; some regions more than others. Bottom line: ALL of the best talent in the 21 and 20 Grad years did not even show up for the tryout. Period. Fix that and you might have a shot against other regions who still value this tournament. If there’s not much to evaluate and therefore not much to select, you just can’t compete against other region’s best. I mean you can...but you can’t!

BLAH BLAH BLADDDY BLAH!!! Get a life

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

I would guess the poster meant play lacrosse, but you never know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

I would guess the poster meant play lacrosse, but you never know.

I am guessing something a bit more specific than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

I would guess the poster meant play lacrosse, but you never know.

The poster meant get IT done! an that is that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

I would guess the poster meant play lacrosse, but you never know.

The poster meant get IT done! an that is that

Its actually referred to as 'Git'ir'done"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

naptown - schmaptown....stay on LI and get it done!!

Get what done?

I would guess the poster meant play lacrosse, but you never know.

The poster meant get IT done! an that is that

Its actually referred to as 'Git'ir'done"

Said with a distinct southern accent I s’ppose.

Congratulations to all who made the US U-19 Training Team. Great accomplishment. Go USA!

Binghamton event seem great! Looks like the Empire State Games are back in business

The New York State Championships ARE A JOKE. Talk about a TOTAL Money Grab. Look at Tourney machine and the scores. The Empire Games in the day where great. This is not close. What a waste of 4 good summer days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The New York State Championships ARE A JOKE. Talk about a TOTAL Money Grab. Look at Tourney machine and the scores. The Empire Games in the day where great. This is not close. What a waste of 4 good summer days.

According to some on this site everything is a joke. Nassau vs Suffolk, Under Armor, NYS Championship etc.... just about everything. Same story over and over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The New York State Championships ARE A JOKE. Talk about a TOTAL Money Grab. Look at Tourney machine and the scores. The Empire Games in the day where great. This is not close. What a waste of 4 good summer days.

According to some on this site everything is a joke. Nassau vs Suffolk, Under Armor, NYS Championship etc.... just about everything. Same story over and over.

everything is a joke. everything tries to be the best... and in turn nothing is the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The New York State Championships ARE A JOKE. Talk about a TOTAL Money Grab. Look at Tourney machine and the scores. The Empire Games in the day where great. This is not close. What a waste of 4 good summer days.

Which team did your son play on and why didn't you both enjoy it?

New to this, and my son plays football. How does it affect their playing time in the Spring if they don't play fall ball with their school?

No effect. Spring coach can't coach fall team. Misses out on some reps, but I'm sure he'll be fine. Don't let lax monsters tell you otherwise -- assuming you are talking about Long island public schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New to this, and my son plays football. How does it affect their playing time in the Spring if they don't play fall ball with their school?

According to some playing football might help your son. I can think of a lot of players from Garden City, Half Hollow Hills West, Ward Melville, St. Anthony's, SWR, Massapequa, Syosset (maybe not this year) etc.. that played both sports and I do not believe the coaches of either sport care. If your son want to play football encourage him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New to this, and my son plays football. How does it affect their playing time in the Spring if they don't play fall ball with their school?

According to some playing football might help your son. I can think of a lot of players from Garden City, Half Hollow Hills West, Ward Melville, St. Anthony's, SWR, Massapequa, Syosset (maybe not this year) etc.. that played both sports and I do not believe the coaches of either sport care. If your son want to play football encourage him.

Cool, thanks. I'm waiting to approach the coach at the meeting they have set up in September.

Is there a list of who made the US U15/17 teams out there?

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

You don't see top recruits at Army, did you watch them last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

You have no clue about D1 Lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

Manhattan last five years under new coach.
2015 1-14
2016 3-12
2017 3-11
2018 4-10
2019 6-8

Given location and how the facilities are I think the Coach is doing a good job.

I assume you are just trying to stir the pot.......Army has excellent recruits. Talent from Chaminade and St. Anthony's is legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

Not sure what happened there. Not exactly sure what was written but to the effect. They (Manhattan) should - pull the trigger like Stony Brook - Thank God they (Stony Brook) got rid of their coach.

Again, wish Manhattan would look for a better coach not a fan of the man and their record. I think Manhattan coach needs to be an Assit under a real coach and learn how to be a better coach and human being. Assistance are very good and I hope they get a better man at the helm for them to succeed in their future.

I love going to a game at Hofstra or Stony Brook! Those two stadiums should house and be the center of all Nassau and Suffolk HS lax games. I hope the new Stony Brook coach promotes it.

Buckle up for the rankings of the amazing 2021s.......some of whom should be 2019s!!! Lame.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Buckle up for the rankings of the amazing 2021s.......some of whom should be 2019s!!! Lame.....

The only rankings that count are college rankings, all stuff before is who you know.

https://myfox8.com/2019/08/28/high-...had-plans-to-shoot-up-school-police-say/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

gibberish

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

gibberish

Regarding prior text about lacrosse players being an academic boost for the school.. where are you getting these facts from? You are correct about the major sports and many athletes not having the grades to get in without athletics and you are right that lacrosse doesn't make money for the school but your argument that lacrosse players are a boost to the overall GPA is tangentially related only because the coaches push their student athletes to get higher GPA's. The reason these schools have lacrosse are for prestige, reputation and history. Other than the kids actually love playing lacrosse the reason they work so hard at the sport is to get into a college he/she may not have been able to get into so the GPA theory doesn't really hold water.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

Obviously someone who hasn't had any conversations with real college coaches. Some programs do hold their recruits to the same standards, but most if not all competitive programs will recruit the kids with the better grades to offset their studs with poor grades. I know of a kid who committed in 8th grade, but the school used academics as a way to keep him from the program because they recruited a stud who is better. That kid is now going to a really good school, but not a top contender like he was originally committed too.

Most of the coaches I spoke to are interested in my kid because he can play AND has good grades. They all have goals of academic averages for their sport, so they will use kids with better averages to help boost the average. But all coaches want to win, and the ones that are recruiting your kids will bring your kid in if they can help them win, not just to improve their average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

gibberish

Regarding prior text about lacrosse players being an academic boost for the school.. where are you getting these facts from? You are correct about the major sports and many athletes not having the grades to get in without athletics and you are right that lacrosse doesn't make money for the school but your argument that lacrosse players are a boost to the overall GPA is tangentially related only because the coaches push their student athletes to get higher GPA's. The reason these schools have lacrosse are for prestige, reputation and history. Other than the kids actually love playing lacrosse the reason they work so hard at the sport is to get into a college he/she may not have been able to get into so the GPA theory doesn't really hold water.

So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly.

***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.

18 year old junior who should be in college......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

18 year old junior who should be in college......

worry about your own kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.

Agreed

This “midnight madness” lacrosse event is the densest thing I’ve ever heard of. Neither the players or the parents want to be playing/watching lax in the middle of the night. They should run the event 8-12. At the conclusion, coaches can talk to players. Who came up with this idea?....Obviously a Lax Bro, #tyxanders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.

The great schools you just mention will make exceptions for great athletes but even those athletes grades need to be within a certain range. There grades can't be significantly below the average student. I don't care how many goals he makes, he is not getting admitted to Hopkins with a ACT score of a 25.

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

Kid was a stud when he was in grade school and when he played on grade...assuming 20 is his true class...not sure if he was a double hold back or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

you are a jealous stunad kid is a stud yours probably is not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

you are a jealous stunad kid is a stud yours probably is not

Who cares? Does anyone know where Rabil was ranked at this point in his career. It means nothing. Get your kid in front of the schools your kid wants to go.

I once again find it funny how there is nothing wrong with reclassifying but no one will admit to doing it. I am pretty sure my kid would be a stud if he played against 9th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

and will be able to go into bars as a freshman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.

If you don't understand what "bad grades" means you fall significantly below the norm for intelligence

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I once again find it funny how there is nothing wrong with reclassifying but no one will admit to doing it. I am pretty sure my kid would be a stud if he played against 9th graders.

My kid has been playing up from day one. We could have reclassed him so he would no longer be one of the younger kids, but academically it made no sense. Why, so he could be committing to a top 5 school instead of a top 15? I just don't get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I once again find it funny how there is nothing wrong with reclassifying but no one will admit to doing it. I am pretty sure my kid would be a stud if he played against 9th graders.

My kid has been playing up from day one. We could have reclassed him so he would no longer be one of the younger kids, but academically it made no sense. Why, so he could be committing to a top 5 school instead of a top 15? I just don't get it.

Called smoke and mirrors. Eventually it catches up. Some parents just get so obsessed with lacrosse, they are willing to do just about anything to get (their kid) ranked. Bizarre to me!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

Nope, you are wrong. He’s not a double holdback and he has always played with the older team. Average at best? Come watch one of his high school games next spring and you will see his not “average”. Kids a stud.

My son was on the young side for his grade. He gained 25 lbs and grew 2” by the end of his first year at college, bigger, stronger & faster. We didn’t keep him back but wonder what that would’ve done for his confidence if he played with those attributes as a senior in high school? Holding a kid back definitely can make a difference and give one a better chance of being accepted into A more desirable school. Why are Long Island teams so dominant in the early years and then less so in the high school years, Has anyone noticed the correlation between that and the places that reclassify? Regardless whether you like it or not it makes a difference and Most likely benefits the majority of those that do it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

Nope, you are wrong. He’s not a double holdback and he has always played with the older team. Average at best? Come watch one of his high school games next spring and you will see his not “average”. Kids a stud.

He’s a great player, but let’s be honest, as an ‘01 he plays on age with Crush. Not eligible to play New York State public as he’ll be 19 as a senior.

Please tell us his birthday, the answer you won't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

Nope, you are wrong. He’s not a double holdback and he has always played with the older team. Average at best? Come watch one of his high school games next spring and you will see his not “average”. Kids a stud.

If one is playing within the rules set forth, it’s not cheating. Perhaps unethical, but certainly not cheating. And very very rarely does anyone catch up and pass the holdback. People have been writing this drivel about passing up the holdbacks, but there is no factual instances documented. It’s simply not true.

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

In college the extra year is no longer an advantage. In HS it IS. This double hold back was very good even on age. Maybe he needed the extra year to make prop 48 so he could actually go to college-could be-ever met the patriarch?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

No idea who the kid at Duke is but lax or no lax - the kids at Duke so I somehow think all will be OK and what ever decision his family previously made probably was the right one. And if this is a holdback reference, instead of graduating at 22 he will graduate at 23. Oh my - the horror. Hopefully the sarcasm is noted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

bench warmer, but that's what you sign up for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

It sounds like you know the answer to your own question......and no one cares.

Worry about your own family and stop calling individuals out.

Your right I was wrong to point one kid out.

I have to ask, they had their kid repeat a grade so he can get into a top school knowing he was never going to see the field.? I find it hard to believe the kid is a good player. Why not stay on grade and go to Tuffs, Wesleyan,etc; get a great education and playing time?

" the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?"

Seems like then send 2 or 3 a year so there. As noted, rich world problems i wish my son has to deal with...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to ask, they had their kid repeat a grade so he can get into a top school knowing he was never going to see the field.? I find it hard to believe the kid is a good player. Why not stay on grade and go to Tuffs, Wesleyan,etc; get a great education and playing time?

Nothing in life is guaranteed, especially playing time in college. It's not guaranteed in "top schools" or at Tufts or Wesleyan.

It's all a crapshoot, playing time is determined not only by talent but by work ethic, attitude, luck, timing and the ability to stay healthy. Just to name a few....

You help your child make the best choice at the time, with the info you have and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

" the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?"

Seems like then send 2 or 3 a year so there. As noted, rich world problems i wish my son has to deal with...

Not all Chaminade or Duke families are 'rich', trust me.

Great reply, very true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

" the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?"

Seems like then send 2 or 3 a year so there. As noted, rich world problems i wish my son has to deal with...

Not all Chaminade or Duke families are 'rich', trust me.

It cost me a dime for a child o' mine to ride the pine, but when he graduates the IVY line, it'll be his time to shine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

bench warmer, but that's what you sign up for.

With a degree from Duke. There are only a few schools I would trade playing for vs. riding the bench at Duke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In college the extra year is no longer an advantage. In HS it IS. This double hold back was very good even on age. Maybe he needed the extra year to make prop 48 so he could actually go to college-could be-ever met the patriarch?

Not only are you ignorant, you are J@#! MeanyAn extra year in college is a huge advantage.

Go slither back under your rock.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

bench warmer, but that's what you sign up for.

With a degree from Duke. There are only a few schools I would trade playing for vs. riding the bench at Duke.

Can't get much of a job as a history, etc. major, and you still ride the pine. No thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

bench warmer, but that's what you sign up for.

With a degree from Duke. There are only a few schools I would trade playing for vs. riding the bench at Duke.

Can't get much of a job as a history, etc. major, and you still ride the pine. No thanks.

Keep telling yourself that. Kids that come out of schools like Duke, Georgetown, Hopkins, ND, Ivy's have incredible opportunities. You sound like a jealous parent. Just so we are clear, was your son offered a spot a Duke? Did you advise him to turn it down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hows the kid from Chaminade working out at Duke?

bench warmer, but that's what you sign up for.

With a degree from Duke. There are only a few schools I would trade playing for vs. riding the bench at Duke.

Can't get much of a job as a history, etc. major, and you still ride the pine. No thanks.

Maybe he can work next to you on the landscaping crew, or is that for dudes with a GED and some HS JV football memories only?

Are there any two teams in the country with more D1 commits than Chaminade and St. Anthony's?

Anyone know when the Showtime invites go out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any two teams in the country with more D1 commits than Chaminade and St. Anthony's?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any two teams in the country with more D1 commits than Chaminade and St. Anthony's?

Maybe some of Maryland private HS.....

I assume we a speaking of male lax athletes only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any two teams in the country with more D1 commits than Chaminade and St. Anthony's?

Yes.

Agreed especially many of the prep schools e.g. Salisbury, The Hill, etc., for the simple fact private schools recruit or for the fact kids pick schools like St. A or Chaminade because they want to play for that program. Chaminade has more to offer than lacrosse but it is definitely one of the appeals. The better question to ask is what public HS have the most D1 commits. That said, you should expand the variable to D1-D3 commits because many excellent players go the D3 route for various reasons such as excellent academics, quality lacrosse but not as intense, etc.

Inside Lacrosse has a good reference...

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/highschool/team/Calvert+Hall/7099/19?active_id=465

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kid was a stud when he was in grade school and when he played on grade...assuming 20 is his true class...not sure if he was a double hold back or not.

not should've 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty should do his home work promoting a kid that has cheated the system and gets number one ranking, if he was playing on grade he would average at best.

Nope, you are wrong. He’s not a double holdback and he has always played with the older team. Average at best? Come watch one of his high school games next spring and you will see his not “average”. Kids a stud.

He’s a great player, but let’s be honest, as an ‘01 he plays on age with Crush. Not eligible to play New York State public as he’ll be 19 as a senior.

on age 2001 DOB in NY were 91 Orange. and if my memories is correct a few crush kids wereon 91 orange at one time. Come to think about it how many holdbacks does crush have now. WOW a lot... give more credit to those who didnt... some kids are 1% for a reason - others are like 2% milk, not heavy enough to carry the load on age!!

You LI people just complain and complain some more news flash when your kid goes to college they play with kids 4 or 5 years older

College coaches don't care one bit about holdbacks. Watch where this #1 2021 recruit goes. For things to change the relevant governing bodies need to make this CONTACT SPORT age based and not grade based. At present, the practice is gross, but effective......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You LI people just complain and complain some more news flash when your kid goes to college they play with kids 4 or 5 years older

Yes...but....they’re not in college and supposed to be judged at playing kids their own age. I think we all know that in HS and college, ages are mixed. Recruiting groups should not be. That is called an uncontrolled variable in statistics 101

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You LI people just complain and complain some more news flash when your kid goes to college they play with kids 4 or 5 years older

Yes...but....they’re not in college and supposed to be judged at playing kids their own age. I think we all know that in HS and college, ages are mixed. Recruiting groups should not be. That is called an uncontrolled variable in statistics 101

Nerd

Originally Posted by Anonymous

College coaches don't care one bit about holdbacks. Watch where this #1 2021 recruit goes. For things to change the relevant governing bodies need to make this CONTACT SPORT age based and not grade based. At present, the practice is gross, but effective......

This is never ever happening. The relevant governing bodies are not going to do anything. Ever. I would recommend therapy, or finding a non contact sport for your son. Try swimming, no holdbacks there.

My kid was 5"4 140# in 9th grade, freshmen in college last year he was 5"11 205. so a kid playing down 2 years in HS will stand out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

The vibe is real. A few guys I coach with were talking about Geneseo as more kids are looking at it. One guy said he hopes they don't move to D1 like their hockey program, that would ruin the program. Right now its a great school with a program that looks ready to start making tournament appearances, don't force D1. Many kids are transferring from lower tier D1 to D3 because its pure drudgery and not for everyone. I think over the next 5 years more kids will choose D3 or D2 over lower tier D1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

The vibe is real. A few guys I coach with were talking about Geneseo as more kids are looking at it. One guy said he hopes they don't move to D1 like their hockey program, that would ruin the program. Right now its a great school with a program that looks ready to start making tournament appearances, don't force D1. Many kids are transferring from lower tier D1 to D3 because its pure drudgery and not for everyone. I think over the next 5 years more kids will choose D3 or D2 over lower tier D1.

My understanding is that a school can be D3 and have 1 D1 program. The minute they have 2 D1 programs, the entire school has to go D1 So I doubt that will happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

The vibe is real. A few guys I coach with were talking about Geneseo as more kids are looking at it. One guy said he hopes they don't move to D1 like their hockey program, that would ruin the program. Right now its a great school with a program that looks ready to start making tournament appearances, don't force D1. Many kids are transferring from lower tier D1 to D3 because its pure drudgery and not for everyone. I think over the next 5 years more kids will choose D3 or D2 over lower tier D1.

My understanding is that a school can be D3 and have 1 D1 program. The minute they have 2 D1 programs, the entire school has to go D1 So I doubt that will happen

Johns Hopkins fields 24 varsity teams, 22 of which compete at the NCAA Division III level. The other two, men’s and women’s lacrosse, both compete in Division I.

Real Question - I have been getting a bunch of emails about College Prospect Camps, for parents that have gone through this before is this a good way to be really seen by those coach's or is it just another money grab? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Real Question - I have been getting a bunch of emails about College Prospect Camps, for parents that have gone through this before is this a good way to be really seen by those coach's or is it just another money grab? Thanks.

Great question. For the uninformed, you or your kid may think he is being recruited because he received the email. It is more likely the school got your email from a prior registration of a tournament that your club team played. Prospect days are a good way for a school to see your son play but don't just go there without having ever contacted the coach before. Your son should send an email with as much details as possible e.g. why he is interested in the school,grades, honors, what events he will be at in addition to the prospect day and highlight video. Unless your kids is an absolute stud the coaching staff will need to see your son play 4-5 times to get a good feeling for him as a player. That said, it is a money grab but only because it helps to supplement the assistant coaches income which can be as little as nothing. My personal opinion is only go to the ones you absolutely know he would want to go to school and play lacrosse. Don't do them too early which means you should go the summer before his junior year in HS if you want to have the most impact. You can do 1-2 earlier than that if you have the time and resources just to get a feel for the process. Prospect days are like 1 day showcases and can be hit or miss. We have been to ones where there is only one FOGO and the other teams offense barely gets the ball. You can also have situations where there are no lefty attack or 3 lefty attack. Be prepared for anything and have your son play true to his game as coaches will notice the flashy play but are really after the player that shows what he can do away from the ball and how he reacts after he makes a mistake. Does your son go after the ball or put his head down. Apologies for long winded explanation and others may differ in their opinion but this has been what I have seen over the past few years. Good luck.

Here is a piece of advice: Go HARD at any prospect day you choose to attend. I have several examples (my son included) of kids who were contacted by college coaches with interest and then half-assed their way through a prospect day, thinking they were "all set", only to see it evaporate in front of their eyes. The misconception is that if college coaches watch you 5-7 times, they only have to see you light it up once. Wrong! They are looking for reasons NOT to take you....so don't give them any. If they watch you play well 6 times, but then see you phone it in on the 7th observation, you are done. So, pick schools which are academically and athletically appropriate. Then have your coaches (BOTH club and HS) call in advance so you are on the list of kids to watch. Then go hard for every second you are there. Do not take a single rep, drill or minute of scrimmage off. My son ended up at a great school, but literally gave away a similar top opportunity early on. He learned a very, very difficult lesson. Don't make the same mistake.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a piece of advice: Go HARD at any prospect day you choose to attend. I have several examples (my son included) of kids who were contacted by college coaches with interest and then half-assed their way through a prospect day, thinking they were "all set", only to see it evaporate in front of their eyes. The misconception is that if college coaches watch you 5-7 times, they only have to see you light it up once. Wrong! They are looking for reasons NOT to take you....so don't give them any. If they watch you play well 6 times, but then see you phone it in on the 7th observation, you are done. So, pick schools which are academically and athletically appropriate. Then have your coaches (BOTH club and HS) call in advance so you are on the list of kids to watch. Then go hard for every second you are there. Do not take a single rep, drill or minute of scrimmage off. My son ended up at a great school, but literally gave away a similar top opportunity early on. He learned a very, very difficult lesson. Don't make the same mistake.....

Best advice that I have seen on here. Pick your top schools, reach out to the coaches, send them highlight films, let your HS and/or travel Coach know that you are interested in those schools and ask them to reach out and play the best lacrosse you have played. You will also be surprised in what a coach looks at. One school we went to, my son didn't do that great in my eyes. But the coach reached out to us, and pointed to all of his potential and what his good points were. It wasn't about how many goals he got (he plays attack), it was his off ball movement, decision making, quick release, etc. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a piece of advice: Go HARD at any prospect day you choose to attend. I have several examples (my son included) of kids who were contacted by college coaches with interest and then half-assed their way through a prospect day, thinking they were "all set", only to see it evaporate in front of their eyes. The misconception is that if college coaches watch you 5-7 times, they only have to see you light it up once. Wrong! They are looking for reasons NOT to take you....so don't give them any. If they watch you play well 6 times, but then see you phone it in on the 7th observation, you are done. So, pick schools which are academically and athletically appropriate. Then have your coaches (BOTH club and HS) call in advance so you are on the list of kids to watch. Then go hard for every second you are there. Do not take a single rep, drill or minute of scrimmage off. My son ended up at a great school, but literally gave away a similar top opportunity early on. He learned a very, very difficult lesson. Don't make the same mistake.....

Best advice that I have seen on here. Pick your top schools, reach out to the coaches, send them highlight films, let your HS and/or travel Coach know that you are interested in those schools and ask them to reach out and play the best lacrosse you have played. You will also be surprised in what a coach looks at. One school we went to, my son didn't do that great in my eyes. But the coach reached out to us, and pointed to all of his potential and what his good points were. It wasn't about how many goals he got (he plays attack), it was his off ball movement, decision making, quick release, etc. Good luck!

Totally agree. If every player attending the prospect day played as though it was their HS or club team then every kid out there would receive a decent look/evaluation from the college coaches. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, there are many kids that think they must do something breath taking each time they have the ball. Having been through this and been able to speak with the many college coaches during the recruiting process I can tell you the coaches look for off-ball movement, hustle and how you react if or when you make a mistake. If you bust your arse they will notice. If you put your head down, sulk, drag your stick or walk off the field, they notice. As important, parents should keep their mouth shut on the sideline.

Thanks Gents for the feedback, it's very much appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a piece of advice: Go HARD at any prospect day you choose to attend. I have several examples (my son included) of kids who were contacted by college coaches with interest and then half-assed their way through a prospect day, thinking they were "all set", only to see it evaporate in front of their eyes. The misconception is that if college coaches watch you 5-7 times, they only have to see you light it up once. Wrong! They are looking for reasons NOT to take you....so don't give them any. If they watch you play well 6 times, but then see you phone it in on the 7th observation, you are done. So, pick schools which are academically and athletically appropriate. Then have your coaches (BOTH club and HS) call in advance so you are on the list of kids to watch. Then go hard for every second you are there. Do not take a single rep, drill or minute of scrimmage off. My son ended up at a great school, but literally gave away a similar top opportunity early on. He learned a very, very difficult lesson. Don't make the same mistake.....

Best advice that I have seen on here. Pick your top schools, reach out to the coaches, send them highlight films, let your HS and/or travel Coach know that you are interested in those schools and ask them to reach out and play the best lacrosse you have played. You will also be surprised in what a coach looks at. One school we went to, my son didn't do that great in my eyes. But the coach reached out to us, and pointed to all of his potential and what his good points were. It wasn't about how many goals he got (he plays attack), it was his off ball movement, decision making, quick release, etc. Good luck!

Totally agree. If every player attending the prospect day played as though it was their HS or club team then every kid out there would receive a decent look/evaluation from the college coaches. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, there are many kids that think they must do something breath taking each time they have the ball. Having been through this and been able to speak with the many college coaches during the recruiting process I can tell you the coaches look for off-ball movement, hustle and how you react if or when you make a mistake. If you bust your arse they will notice. If you put your head down, sulk, drag your stick or walk off the field, they notice. As important, parents should keep their mouth shut on the sideline.

This is the best thread I have seen on here. Great advice.

is there a certain time of year prospect days are typically held (fall)? and when should a kid start doing them? assuming they are in the fall, would it be the fall of sophmore and junior year? is it a dense idea to do a local one he may or might not be interested in just to see what its about?

thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there a certain time of year prospect days are typically held (fall)? and when should a kid start doing them? assuming they are in the fall, would it be the fall of sophmore and junior year? is it a dense idea to do a local one he may or might not be interested in just to see what its about?

thanks

https://beginnerlacrosse.com/lacrosse-prospect-days-camps/

good website that tries to stay up to date with prospect days and showcases. I think you need to start the process in the Fall of their sophomore year. Most will be September and October because the recruiting tournaments tend to be the first three weeks of November. If pursuing D1 then you should consider a couple prospect days to supplement his clubs tournament schedule. If interested in D3 there is less of a rebels as most D3 programs recruit well into the Junior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is there a certain time of year prospect days are typically held (fall)? and when should a kid start doing them? assuming they are in the fall, would it be the fall of sophmore and junior year? is it a dense idea to do a local one he may or might not be interested in just to see what its about?

thanks

My son is a Junior and we started going when he was a freshman. I never heard from those schools. The ones from this summer are recruiting him pretty hard. He isn't on any of the recruiting rankings, so only the schools that we have been too really saw him. I would say the Summer after completing Sophomore year is when you should go to the schools that are at the top of his list, and the showcases. The Super Soph was a good one, and some of the ones hosted at a school with multiple coaches were also good. Many of the schools are still trying to fill their 2020 rosters, so the fall is a good time to go as well. My son plays football, so that is pretty much off the table for us.

Prospect camps are also a way for the recruit to decide if they like the school and coaches. There will be some schools that he will get a bad vibe or feeling about. If your son is a junior he should have his travel/HS coaches speak to the college coach and then if they are interested he should speak to the college coach before going to a prospect camp. If you just show up to a camp it is very hard to get recruited. It is not a bad idea for your son to attend a local prospect day at a school they are not really interested in to familiarize themselves with the process. If your son is a sophomore he should only do fall prospect days at schools very high on his list and again try to have his coaches speak to the college coach before he attends. It is not an easy process to navigate for any of the kids. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

The vibe is real. A few guys I coach with were talking about Geneseo as more kids are looking at it. One guy said he hopes they don't move to D1 like their hockey program, that would ruin the program. Right now its a great school with a program that looks ready to start making tournament appearances, don't force D1. Many kids are transferring from lower tier D1 to D3 because its pure drudgery and not for everyone. I think over the next 5 years more kids will choose D3 or D2 over lower tier D1.

My understanding is that a school can be D3 and have 1 D1 program. The minute they have 2 D1 programs, the entire school has to go D1 So I doubt that will happen

Johns Hopkins fields 24 varsity teams, 22 of which compete at the NCAA Division III level. The other two, men’s and women’s lacrosse, both compete in Division I.

I think the point was hopefully schools don't ruin the D3 experience just to play in D1. Look at the lower half of the D1 landscape. Unless they are giving you a monster scholarship, how much fun can someone have--is it worth it?

So true. If I was playing again, I'd go to Amherst and play for a championship at Gillette Stadium.

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

MT sinal or SWR can beat them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

WI will not dominate D2. Way too much competition throughout. SWR, MS, Islip, BBP will all be tough to get through in the regular season and HF will be very strong in B. They may get to counties, but it's not gonna be easy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHAT High Schools will be top this year , i heard West Islip will be moving to Div 2 so they should dominate that league

Why?

MT sinal or SWR can beat them

so can Harborfields.

If WI does not make it to counties and win it then it is a failure of the year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If WI does not make it to counties and win it then it is a failure of the year

i wouldn't put my money on them just yet

Bring back Scottie..

Why does Inside Lacrosse keep announcing "additional waves" of 4 star 2021 recruits? Guess it's time for everyone gets a trophy! Were some of the daddy coaches upset their kid wasn't mentioned in the top 100, so now we have to create a top 200?? Give me a break!

Should be 3 and 2 star recruits heading to D2 programs. Nobody cares

The Inside Lacrosse rating system is imperfect. For the very top kids, the ratings are fairly obvious. Where it sort of falls apart is with the next level of very good players. There are many, many players who never make it onto the IL radar for the simple reason that they didn't pay in an IL event or have never been evaluated by IL. Kids can play everywhere and never get evaluated. IL may evaluate kids in UA tryouts in NJ, but not on LI. So it is often a crapshoot.....which on some level s too bad. Like it or not, IL and Ty Xanders have a platform and when they blast stuff out on social media about a kid or rate him high it creates buzz and interest. Then it becomes self-fulfilling with the same kids showing up on the same lists over and over. That then leads to invites to fancy combines and showcases, etc. etc. which helps with recruitment. Again, though, that doesn't mean if your kid isn't a 4-5 star recruit that he cannot play high-end lacrosse in college. It just makes it a little harder and the process may take longer. Go down the list of commitments on the IL site and see how many kids committed to top D1 programs are not 4-5 star recruits. There are a ton of kids that get completely missed by IL.....so just keep it in perspective.

Round 5 coming out tomorrow! Heard the D4 schools are drooling!

Anyone know when the Showtime invites go out?

LOL
Probabaly when the checks to get kids put on the team clears

Settle down in West Islip. You will not beat SWR or Mt. Sinai this year anyway or next for SWR at least. Put that in the bank. Good luck getting to semis; that is an attainable goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse rating system is imperfect. For the very top kids, the ratings are fairly obvious. Where it sort of falls apart is with the next level of very good players. There are many, many players who never make it onto the IL radar for the simple reason that they didn't pay in an IL event or have never been evaluated by IL. Kids can play everywhere and never get evaluated. IL may evaluate kids in UA tryouts in NJ, but not on LI. So it is often a crapshoot.....which on some level s too bad. Like it or not, IL and Ty Xanders have a platform and when they blast stuff out on social media about a kid or rate him high it creates buzz and interest. Then it becomes self-fulfilling with the same kids showing up on the same lists over and over. That then leads to invites to fancy combines and showcases, etc. etc. which helps with recruitment. Again, though, that doesn't mean if your kid isn't a 4-5 star recruit that he cannot play high-end lacrosse in college. It just makes it a little harder and the process may take longer. Go down the list of commitments on the IL site and see how many kids committed to top D1 programs are not 4-5 star recruits. There are a ton of kids that get completely missed by IL.....so just keep it in perspective.

I thought a big component of it is that Ty Xander has relationships with D1 coaches and they inform him of their top prospects. This is probably supplemental to various national showcases, tournaments, etc. so who really knows.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Inside Lacrosse rating system is imperfect. For the very top kids, the ratings are fairly obvious. Where it sort of falls apart is with the next level of very good players. There are many, many players who never make it onto the IL radar for the simple reason that they didn't pay in an IL event or have never been evaluated by IL. Kids can play everywhere and never get evaluated. IL may evaluate kids in UA tryouts in NJ, but not on LI. So it is often a crapshoot.....which on some level s too bad. Like it or not, IL and Ty Xanders have a platform and when they blast stuff out on social media about a kid or rate him high it creates buzz and interest. Then it becomes self-fulfilling with the same kids showing up on the same lists over and over. That then leads to invites to fancy combines and showcases, etc. etc. which helps with recruitment. Again, though, that doesn't mean if your kid isn't a 4-5 star recruit that he cannot play high-end lacrosse in college. It just makes it a little harder and the process may take longer. Go down the list of commitments on the IL site and see how many kids committed to top D1 programs are not 4-5 star recruits. There are a ton of kids that get completely missed by IL.....so just keep it in perspective.

I thought a big component of it is that Ty Xander has relationships with D1 coaches and they inform him of their top prospects. This is probably supplemental to various national showcases, tournaments, etc. so who really knows.

My son never went to get evaluated by IL so he has no stars next to his name. Was recruited by some top D1 programs and this was because of his high school coaches and going to prospect days. He also played on a top travel team so that also helped. Im glad its over and looking forward to his senior season. IL misses many top players so you need to market yourself with the help of your coaches.

My sons came on Sept 4th

West Islip will dominate have a ton of talent returning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will dominate have a ton of talent returning

What club teams do they play for?

How do you get them evaluated by IL? What is the process?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you get them evaluated by IL? What is the process?

It’s pay to play with a good dose of daddy ball thrown in!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will dominate have a ton of talent returning

You know, humility goes a long way. You are setting yourself and your town up for serious disappointment if you really think that WI will dominate D2. Only a fool would think that way. Keep drinking the Cool Aid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will dominate have a ton of talent returning

You know, humility goes a long way. You are setting yourself and your town up for serious disappointment if you really think that WI will dominate D2. Only a fool would think that way. Keep drinking the Cool Aid

these comments killed the season last year, you really want to start this again. Some of the parents you dealt with last year were kind. SWR and MTS wont be as nice. Dont say you werent warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will dominate have a ton of talent returning

You know, humility goes a long way. You are setting yourself and your town up for serious disappointment if you really think that WI will dominate D2. Only a fool would think that way. Keep drinking the Cool Aid

Must not be good in math how does 5 kids=ton

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he

My middle son was recruited by Binghamton, coach gives off a weird vibe. Not sure how to describe it but neither of us felt comfortable. Also campus is oddly situated, main road separates it from everything else, you need to drive to go anywhere. Great school and value. I look at Binghamton and Geneseo and think both should be attractive for kids serious about school so easy sell for coaches. In fact, I expect the better SUNY schools to become powerful programs as college costs keep going up and SUNY looks so darn attractive. Marist is an amazing campus surrounded by.....unattractive neighborhoods stocked with not the choicest of people.

HOLY COW! My son ruled Bing out right away because of a "Vibe" he got from coach as well. Then the assist started leaving and that sealed it. Such a shame, would/could have been a good thing. I agree with you on Geneseo

The vibe is real. A few guys I coach with were talking about Geneseo as more kids are looking at it. One guy said he hopes they don't move to D1 like their hockey program, that would ruin the program. Right now its a great school with a program that looks ready to start making tournament appearances, don't force D1. Many kids are transferring from lower tier D1 to D3 because its pure drudgery and not for everyone. I think over the next 5 years more kids will choose D3 or D2 over lower tier D1.

My understanding is that a school can be D3 and have 1 D1 program. The minute they have 2 D1 programs, the entire school has to go D1 So I doubt that will happen

Johns Hopkins fields 24 varsity teams, 22 of which compete at the NCAA Division III level. The other two, men’s and women’s lacrosse, both compete in Division I.

I think the point was hopefully schools don't ruin the D3 experience just to play in D1. Look at the lower half of the D1 landscape. Unless they are giving you a monster scholarship, how much fun can someone have--is it worth it?

So true. If I was playing again, I'd go to Amherst and play for a championship at Gillette Stadium.

Have you gone through the process recently. You mention Amherst, if you have those grades you are not going to consider to a lower (Bottom) D1 program in the first place (sans maybe Lafayette and Dartmouth). If you mention Amherst grades and academics matter.

Stop spewing this, no you wouldn't. I know of a few kids smart enough not to compromise academics for sports. Not sure if I know many kids these days who really devalued academics for the lure of D1 sports. and D2? No way in heck! How many quality (Amherst level) academic institutions are there in D2? please list, id love to check them out

Here is an interesting one for everyone. If you ignore D1-3 and take the combination of academics/athletics (lacrosse only), how would you rank schools. For example, Yale would be #1 because it has incredible academics and is able to win championships. Does a school like Williams get ranked higher than Harvard, for example, because although Harvard can be considered better academically, the margin of difference is not as great as the margin of difference between Williams potential to play for a National championship. Rank the top 10 or 20 as this is for fun only as there are no wrong answers.

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is an interesting one for everyone. If you ignore D1-3 and take the combination of academics/athletics (lacrosse only), how would you rank schools. For example, Yale would be #1 because it has incredible academics and is able to win championships. Does a school like Williams get ranked higher than Harvard, for example, because although Harvard can be considered better academically, the margin of difference is not as great as the margin of difference between Williams potential to play for a National championship. Rank the top 10 or 20 as this is for fun only as there are no wrong answers.

Extend the rankings to top 25 or even beyond and these are the schools kids should be focused on. Academics first. Lacrosse simply doesn't provide enough scholarship money to make the decision to sacrifice even a little. The D1 lacrosse experience for many is now a miserable one. Drudgery.

Am I wrong for steering my son towards a SUNY school? He has gotten looks from some bottom of the rankings D1 schools but I don't want him to have student debt and I know he is wired for a less grueling sports environment. Its not easy when your teammates are committing to D1 schools and the old man is saying "what about SUNY?"

Am I doing him a disservice?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Am I wrong for steering my son towards a SUNY school? He has gotten looks from some bottom of the rankings D1 schools but I don't want him to have student debt and I know he is wired for a less grueling sports environment. Its not easy when your teammates are committing to D1 schools and the old man is saying "what about SUNY?"

Am I doing him a disservice?

Go SUNY, save the money, and put it towards a graduate degree for your son. That will go farther than lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

I am not sure it is fair to compare the BIG 10 or ACC to NESCAC. NESCAC schools are not for everyone but I wouldn't dismiss them outright. You are correct that it is an expensive education but the education is excellent with a faculty to student ratio of approx. 8-1 which means that the kids are really learning and developing the ability to think beyond the next exam. I am not saying this is the case for larger schools but it is more difficult especially as many of the classes, especially in the first couple years can have upwards of 500 students and be taught by a graduate student. The NESCAC alumni network both from the school, in general, and lacrosse is exceptional.

By the way, NESCAC's are very generous with financial aide so don't look at the top line costs. Focus on the bottom line which can be significantly less than going to a Michigan or UVA. If you don't need the aide then good for your family and consider the expense a worthwhile one to give your child an excellent head start after graduation. Facts are Facts and the schools listed above have higher graduation rates, starting salaries and endowments (per capita).

By the way, BIG 10, ACC, etc. have great schools like Michigan, Notre Dame, UVA and more. In fact, if you do decide to go to a NESCAC school, you will probably be cheering for one of them on Saturday's in the Fall.

Since this is a lacrosse forum, I will state the obvious that kids dream of playing D1 because those teams are the ones on TV and get most of the press but the time/effort is a grind and not for everyone. If your son wants to play competitive lacrosse but at a more reasonable level of committment, you should consider D3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

I think the list was earnings potential after college. Babson is the highest starting salary after college for a business degree. Brown, UVA, and Michigan are great. GT is the MIT of the south, and if you're an engineer then you're set for life.

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

I am not sure it is fair to compare the BIG 10 or ACC to NESCAC. NESCAC schools are not for everyone but I wouldn't dismiss them outright. You are correct that it is an expensive education but the education is excellent with a faculty to student ratio of approx. 8-1 which means that the kids are really learning and developing the ability to think beyond the next exam. I am not saying this is the case for larger schools but it is more difficult especially as many of the classes, especially in the first couple years can have upwards of 500 students and be taught by a graduate student. The NESCAC alumni network both from the school, in general, and lacrosse is exceptional.

By the way, NESCAC's are very generous with financial aide so don't look at the top line costs. Focus on the bottom line which can be significantly less than going to a Michigan or UVA. If you don't need the aide then good for your family and consider the expense a worthwhile one to give your child an excellent head start after graduation. Facts are Facts and the schools listed above have higher graduation rates, starting salaries and endowments (per capita).

By the way, BIG 10, ACC, etc. have great schools like Michigan, Notre Dame, UVA and more. In fact, if you do decide to go to a NESCAC school, you will probably be cheering for one of them on Saturday's in the Fall.

Since this is a lacrosse forum, I will state the obvious that kids dream of playing D1 because those teams are the ones on TV and get most of the press but the time/effort is a grind and not for everyone. If your son wants to play competitive lacrosse but at a more reasonable level of committment, you should consider D3.

Very good post and thoughtful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

What about the Academies Army, Navy , Air Force, USMMA, etc.
Great Education at the right price and guaranteed job after 4 years for at least 5 years and 2 of the 5 they will even pay for your masters degree .......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the Academies Army, Navy , Air Force, USMMA, etc.
Great Education at the right price and guaranteed job after 4 years for at least 5 years and 2 of the 5 they will even pay for your masters degree .......

No doubt a great education and noble to serve your country but it isn't for everyone. If people think the commitment level for D1 lacrosse is a lot, trying adding rigor of academics which are equivalent or better than Ivy education and the physical toll on the military.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the Academies Army, Navy , Air Force, USMMA, etc.
Great Education at the right price and guaranteed job after 4 years for at least 5 years and 2 of the 5 they will even pay for your masters degree .......

No doubt a great education and noble to serve your country but it isn't for everyone. If people think the commitment level for D1 lacrosse is a lot, trying adding rigor of academics which are equivalent or better than Ivy education and the physical toll on the military.

This route takes a special kid, Kuddos and much respect to those that have traveled that path or on it. But if you are not one of those kids it is not even a consideration. Going to one of those academies would have been my dram for my son, but wasnt on his radar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

I'm an EVP at a BD in NYC. We have had great results hiring from the top SUNY schools Binghamton, Geneseo and Stony Brook. The education is one thing, its what you do and are willing to sacrifice once you get in the door. Too many kids think because Daddy is rich and he attended an expensive school, he's on the golden path to success. We want kids who are hungry and smart--athletes from top SUNY schools usually fit the bill. We don't need the baggage of the entitled so please don't discount a SUNY education.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts

Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise

I think the list was earnings potential after college. Babson is the highest starting salary after college for a business degree. Brown, UVA, and Michigan are great. GT is the MIT of the south, and if you're an engineer then you're set for life.

We talking starting salery or Mid Career. because as great as it is to start out high, I would think we are talking sustainable mid career stats

Ill continue to disagree on a few points especially Babson being above Michigan UVA (even in Business) Lehigh, RPI, Stevens Tech, and the likes of Suny maritime. Babson is yes, shutter the thought ranked over nescacs. (And this could be the difference of stem and business) but Babson is not a top 10 school like I beleive you are touting it. But does it matter when it is splitting hairs. but using my argument earlier. Having the chance and option to go to Babson or a bigger school TAKE THE BIGGER SCHOOL!!!!

You can always make a big school small. You can never make a small school big. As well, (sans tufts) the big schools have just as many graduates at the caliber of the the entire enrollment at some of those the nescacs. and yeah, these big schools also have as many graduates that would barley skirt by at the nescacs - but thats kinda like life. Like the academies, Nescacs take a special kid of kid. Better make sure thats a good fit for your kid. and if you are in the same tax bracket, you are paying close to full boat

and since we are talking about high achieving students, the 12.6 gets fuzzy. Take as much $$ as you can in academic dollars, if you have the stats $$ shouldn't could against the teams budget!

Now back to babson - it is a good school but not good enough to be getting this much ink here. If you are considering Babson, just check out all the schools in the area ( just like the earning list that included Babson here are some of them Bentley Boston College Holy Cross WPI why not stop at Bryant ).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

I get what they are saying "figure it out" not for lax reason of academics, but because for every SUNY applicant one takes, someone else is taking 4 for candidates from the other schools. Law of averages. and for that NYC guy, out of NYC or NYS how much juice does any SUNY carry. You need to figure out if the juice is worth the squeeze.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

I don't think you are right when you say "if they were that good at lax, sorry they aren't going to NESCAC" and I think you are flat our wrong that a kid that has the ability to play at UVA, Yale, etc. is opting out of playing lacrosse. Sure there is the exception and I am sure you know that one kid but most kids playing high level lacrosse from an early age through HS don't want it to end. This is why some very good D1 level players opt for NESCAC or NEWMAC (MIT) instead of Ivy or ACC type schools. They still want to play but don't want the 6am workouts 5 days a week in the fall and all the intensity that goes along with that.

Like it was said earlier in this thread, at a young age every kid wants to play for Duke, Maryland, UVA, etc. but as they grow up and mature some of these kids recognize its not just about lacrosse and they want to do other things but keep playing competitive lacrosse so they opt for D3, club or that rare kid that hangs up the helmet.

This thread was not about berating SUNY schools or determining a kid was not good enough for Yale so he went to Babson. It was meant to evaluate what schools have the best combined experience of academics / lacrosse. By the way, nobody is saying that if you get a degree from SUNY you will not be as successful as someone from Harvard. It just takes significantly more effort. Personally, I don't care where you went to school. If you played lacrosse I may not hire you but I will definitely give you an opportunity in my company.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

Wall Street guy again. Harvard or SUNY New Paltz...makes no difference to us when hiring. What I see is the alumni bringing in "their guys" and the competition that breeds within the firm. Fairfield guys want to hire Fairfield grads and they compete against Binghamton guys--it creates a great atmosphere. How hard are you willing to work? Don't burden your kids or your family with student debt and if they are that driven to get a top tier education, someone will figure out a way to get it paid for. But the majority should look for a balanced college experience and for me that's D3.

D2 provides competitive lax also with mostly smaller schools that some kids might be looking for. And there's athletic scholarship $ to be had as well as academic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

What is silly is to simplify something into "find a way". For most normal middle-class families that doesn't exist without major sacrifices. if you have more than one child "just finding a way" may not be an option. What lifestyle change are you referring to? Skipping the weekly dinner out? Not buying the needed family car? Maybe the other kids should skip field hockey camp and lacrosse camp? Don't use phrases like finding a way without offering a specific, it's lame and silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

Exactly!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

Try reading again. My primary point was that good lacrosse gets played at NESCACS, but they are not for everyone. My second point was not that they are better than Ivys but harder academically for recruited athletes to get past admissions. Nobody said NESCACS are overall better schools than Ivys. That is all....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

Try reading again. My primary point was that good lacrosse gets played at NESCACS, but they are not for everyone. My second point was not that they are better than Ivys but harder academically for recruited athletes to get past admissions. Nobody said NESCACS are overall better schools than Ivys. That is all....

I specifically mentioned schools like Michigan and UVA and ND and Duke. Because in 10th grade a lot of these kids considered those NESCACs and now they are at those (Michigan UVA Duke ND) schools. Some of them even considered Centennial and Liberty conferences instead or those big state club programs instead of Nescac. Binghamton is filled with students that would be able to play Nescac and were academically eligible but arnt playing.

But lets get into a more debatable conversion can NESCAC really beat a mid or lower teir D1 or Mid or high Tier DII. Could a South Carolina, Ga tech FSU Arizona Clemson or even Liberty or Chapman Club beat Nescac absolutely . Could a Mule Swar or Hav beat Wilm A'herst or Wes?

Go to the school you like, the school you can afford and one you can see cheering and visiting the next 50 years, but remember even those guys from NCState wish they still had lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

Try reading again. My primary point was that good lacrosse gets played at NESCACS, but they are not for everyone. My second point was not that they are better than Ivys but harder academically for recruited athletes to get past admissions. Nobody said NESCACS are overall better schools than Ivys. That is all....

I specifically mentioned schools like Michigan and UVA and ND and Duke. Because in 10th grade a lot of these kids considered those NESCACs and now they are at those (Michigan UVA Duke ND) schools. Some of them even considered Centennial and Liberty conferences instead or those big state club programs instead of Nescac. Binghamton is filled with students that would be able to play Nescac and were academically eligible but arnt playing.

But lets get into a more debatable conversion can NESCAC really beat a mid or lower teir D1 or Mid or high Tier DII. Could a South Carolina, Ga tech FSU Arizona Clemson or even Liberty or Chapman Club beat Nescac absolutely . Could a Mule Swar or Hav beat Wilm A'herst or Wes?

Go to the school you like, the school you can afford and one you can see cheering and visiting the next 50 years, but remember even those guys from NCState wish they still had lax

Your argument sounds like the one poeple make about college football or basketball vs. the pros. I remember when people used to say UNLV in their heyday could beat a lower level NBA team. It's not the same comparison to consider NESCAC vs. mid / lower level D1 programs. Top level NESCAC and other D3 schools like Cabrini would absolutely be competitive with these programs but you will never know because they won't play or scrimmage as there is no benefit. Many of the kids going to Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst and even MIT were highly recruited D1 athletes that chose a NESCAC school. There is a big difference once you arrive and spend four years training 20-30 per week all year vs. NESCACS which have a light "captains" practice in the Fall and then ramp things up in the Spring but there is no mistaking the talent of many of the players entering freshman year are on par with D1 lacrosse players. These kids don't think of going to a NESCAC school as a consillation but a choice. If we are talking purely lacrosse then D1 outshines all others even professional lacrosse. When discussing academics alongside lacrosse which is what this thread was originally about, the NESCACS are on par with every IVY, ACC, BIG10, etc. program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

What is silly is to simplify something into "find a way". For most normal middle-class families that doesn't exist without major sacrifices. if you have more than one child "just finding a way" may not be an option. What lifestyle change are you referring to? Skipping the weekly dinner out? Not buying the needed family car? Maybe the other kids should skip field hockey camp and lacrosse camp? Don't use phrases like finding a way without offering a specific, it's lame and silly.

What is lame and silly is asking for specific financial advice on how to put your 3 children thru college from a lax forum. I wish you the best.

OMG... Stop already with the NESCACS. They are not on par with every Ivy, ACC, Big 10 etc... program. The NESCACS are good schools but they cater to a small segment of the population. Those who choose to attend obviously think highly of the schools but other than that not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing

Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

What is silly is to simplify something into "find a way". For most normal middle-class families that doesn't exist without major sacrifices. if you have more than one child "just finding a way" may not be an option. What lifestyle change are you referring to? Skipping the weekly dinner out? Not buying the needed family car? Maybe the other kids should skip field hockey camp and lacrosse camp? Don't use phrases like finding a way without offering a specific, it's lame and silly.

What is lame and silly is asking for specific financial advice on how to put your 3 children thru college from a lax forum. I wish you the best.

Not asking for advice, simply stating your idiotic statement "find a way". I found a way to finance my children's education, many others do not have that luxury. Find a way to some brains, dolt.

Any predictions for Nassau & Suffolk County Champs at each Class?

Shoreham seems to be a lock to win their 5th straight Class C Suffolk County Championship with their key eturners and FO Duke commit.

Ward Melville will repeat as Class A Suffolk Champions with their deep and stacked roster.

Manhesst & Garden City will duke it out for the Nassau County Class B Title.

Massapequa should be the favorite to win thier 4th straight Nassau Class A title despite graduating a handful of D1 commits.

Originally Posted by Laxr22

Any predictions for Nassau & Suffolk County Champs at each Class?

Shoreham seems to be a lock to win their 5th straight Class C Suffolk County Championship with their key eturners and FO Duke commit.

Ward Melville will repeat as Class A Suffolk Champions with their deep and stacked roster.

Manhesst & Garden City will duke it out for the Nassau County Class B Title.

Massapequa should be the favorite to win thier 4th straight Nassau Class A title despite graduating a handful of D1 commits.

A handful is 9.

WEST ISLIP

Originally Posted by Laxr22

Any predictions for Nassau & Suffolk County Champs at each Class?

Shoreham seems to be a lock to win their 5th straight Class C Suffolk County Championship with their key eturners and FO Duke commit.

Ward Melville will repeat as Class A Suffolk Champions with their deep and stacked roster.

Manhesst & Garden City will duke it out for the Nassau County Class B Title.

Massapequa should be the favorite to win thier 4th straight Nassau Class A title despite graduating a handful of D1 commits.

The boy who transferred back to SWR was not the fogo going to Duke it was a short stick defensive player

Watched the MLL Championship today. Too bad a great game was ruined by bad behavior. What an embarrassment to Lacrosse and to think that kid was a Princeton grad knowing young kids were watching!. Guess you can’t teach class!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the MLL Championship today. Too bad a great game was ruined by bad behavior. What an embarrassment to Lacrosse and to think that kid was a Princeton grad knowing young kids were watching!. Guess you can’t teach class!

Bad bad scene

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the MLL Championship today. Too bad a great game was ruined by bad behavior. What an embarrassment to Lacrosse and to think that kid was a Princeton grad knowing young kids were watching!. Guess you can’t teach class!

Bad bad scene

Yeah, because none of those little boys ever saw PARENTS act that way at some ridiculous T-Shirt tournament. Spare me the silliness.

West Islip will make the playoffs. That is our goal for the season. We have never beaten three village/ward Melville and I don't see that happening this year, but hey, that is why you play the games. Maybe we'll get lucky.

Manhasset will be beat GC, it will not be close either.

SWR is the LI favorite in C. They will play CSH out of Nassau.

Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset and Port will vie for the A title with equal odds to play WM in the LIC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will make the playoffs. That is our goal for the season. We have never beaten three village/ward Melville and I don't see that happening this year, but hey, that is why you play the games. Maybe we'll get lucky.

Manhasset will be beat GC, it will not be close either.

SWR is the LI favorite in C. They will play CSH out of Nassau.

Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset and Port will vie for the A title with equal odds to play WM in the LIC.

West Islip will be in the B division this year, Ward Melville will be a non league if they play each other and will have nothing to do with WI making the playoffs.

WEST ISLIP SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL enrollment 1039
Class B for boys lacrosse is 765-1059

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will make the playoffs. That is our goal for the season. We have never beaten three village/ward Melville and I don't see that happening this year, but hey, that is why you play the games. Maybe we'll get lucky.

Manhasset will be beat GC, it will not be close either.

SWR is the LI favorite in C. They will play CSH out of Nassau.

Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset and Port will vie for the A title with equal odds to play WM in the LIC.

Nassau A will not be challenged. Massapequa is still very good, Syosset has gotten worse every year, Farmingdale will most likely be the second seed with Port and Syosset about the same. GC/Manhasset will be close as it always is. CSH winning C is not exactly a surprise.

Manhasset vs. GC will not be close this year.

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

1-Massapequa
2-Farmingdale
3-Port
4-Syosset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

1-Massapequa
2-Farmingdale
3-Port
4-Syosset

Don't sleep on Syo..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

1-Massapequa
2-Farmingdale
3-Port
4-Syosset

Don't sleep on Syo..

Syo is sleeping already. The program has declined steadily over the last few years. Great coaching, it ends there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

1-Massapequa
2-Farmingdale
3-Port
4-Syosset

Don't sleep on Syo..

Syo is sleeping already. The program has declined steadily over the last few years. Great coaching, it ends there.

Don't know much about this years Syosset team but I do know that you need the horses to compete. I don't care if you bring in Bill Tierney if he doesn't have the athletes he will not win. That said, a mediocre coach will not win even with a team full of studs. It take both good coaching and good athletes to win a championship.

I think the Dalers win it this year. LIC will see some new teams this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port graduated 3 starters. better than last year.

1-Massapequa
2-Farmingdale
3-Port
4-Syosset

Don't sleep on Syo..

Syo is sleeping already. The program has declined steadily over the last few years. Great coaching, it ends there.

Don't know much about this years Syosset team but I do know that you need the horses to compete. I don't care if you bring in Bill Tierney if he doesn't have the athletes he will not win. That said, a mediocre coach will not win even with a team full of studs. It take both good coaching and good athletes to win a championship.

I think the Dalers win it this year. LIC will see some new teams this year.

While the Dalers can compete, they have no shot against a very good Massapequa team. Dalers will be a distant second.

yall see Floyd's FOGO committed to Albany.. could be their year..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yall see Floyd's FOGO committed to Albany.. could be their year..

Mom you are so embarrassing,

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset vs. GC will not be close this year.

GC barely got by Manhasset in football......Just wait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

Thousands? How about hundreds of thousands? Do the math....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

You are a know nothing pretzel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

You are a know nothing pretzel.

Listen, AHMteHangry little man, stop succumbing to peer pressure and do what you morally think is correct. If that's sucking up to your son's coach than by all means go for it. No need for name calling

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

JUST SAY NO. It's really simple. Be a man, stand up for yourself. Or don't, it's your choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

JUST SAY NO. It's really simple. Be a man, stand up for yourself. Or don't, it's your choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

JUST SAY NO. It's really simple. Be a man, stand up for yourself. Or don't, it's your choice.

My Son is in a position to say no, he is commited to a top school and plays on a top travel team. Not sure what your problem is? HS is different than club, when kids like my son say no, the whole team is affected, not that simple as you suggest. I find it to be disgusting, I’m sure you don’t because you’re a coach who thinks it’s fine to screw kids. Not everyone who plays lacrosse is well off. Just sad

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

JUST SAY NO. It's really simple. Be a man, stand up for yourself. Or don't, it's your choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those participating in fall tourneys with your HIGH SCHOOL team, what are you being charged per tournament for local ones such as NLI and Laxfest?

HS Coaches cashing in.... Big $$ to be made when collusion, coercion and extortion are employed and coaches are enabled by parents who are afraid to speak up due to fear of retribution against their son.

Lighten up Francis, it’s just a game. No one is forcing you or your son, just say no. Trust me, the scholarship isn’t that valuable. No free rides in lax.

Lighten up?? HS Coaches should not be making big profits on the backs of the players. Club is a different story. Some people struggle to pay for these events. I can see being compensated a couple hundred for the day, but when a coach is pulling in thousands, that's a problem. As far as saying no, it's a shame that a kid could be forced to say no because it's too expensive. Not just about scholarships, it's about building chemistry with your teammates.

JUST SAY NO. It's really simple. Be a man, stand up for yourself. Or don't, it's your choice.

My Son is in a position to say no, he is commited to a top school and plays on a top travel team. Not sure what your problem is? HS is different than club, when kids like my son say no, the whole team is affected, not that simple as you suggest. I find it to be disgusting, I’m sure you don’t because you’re a coach who thinks it’s fine to screw kids. Not everyone who plays lacrosse is well off. Just sad

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Let me guess. If the coach didn’t do any off-season stuff you would be the first one to come on this forum and complain that he doesn’t do enough and doesn’t care about the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Let me guess. If the coach didn’t do any off-season stuff you would be the first one to come on this forum and complain that he doesn’t do enough and doesn’t care about the program.

Exactly. Fall ball gives teams an opportunity to gel before the season starts and also gives underclassmen exposure at recruiting events. Players sometimes play better team lacrosse with the boys they are familiar with as opposed to club where there may not be cohesion and a lot of selfish play.

I see B/C Div Lax seeding is
1 SWR
2 Mt Siani
3 West Islip
4 ISLIP
West Islip thinking they will dominate but they will struggle with top 6 teams not going to be a walk in the park as many of the WI parents are thinking

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.[/quote]

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Let me guess. If the coach didn’t do any off-season stuff you would be the first one to come on this forum and complain that he doesn’t do enough and doesn’t care about the program.

Exactly. Fall ball gives teams an opportunity to gel before the season starts and also gives underclassmen exposure at recruiting events. Players sometimes play better team lacrosse with the boys they are familiar with as opposed to club where there may not be cohesion and a lot of selfish play.

What makes you think all HS coaches are taking advantage of their situation? Our school is playing in a 6 game Winter league and the cost is $45 per player. Doesn't feel like an abuse of power.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?
[/quote]

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Let me guess. If the coach didn’t do any off-season stuff you would be the first one to come on this forum and complain that he doesn’t do enough and doesn’t care about the program.

Exactly. Fall ball gives teams an opportunity to gel before the season starts and also gives underclassmen exposure at recruiting events. Players sometimes play better team lacrosse with the boys they are familiar with as opposed to club where there may not be cohesion and a lot of selfish play.

So, what exactly is "Fall Ball" is it the varsity? (there have not been any tryouts yet). Who is invited? How do the coaches determine who is invited to play? Is it the Summer "Pay to Play for profit" town/HS team? Who is invited to play? What is the cost? Who profits? If it is a recruiting event is their equal playing time? Are the coaches playing to win or does everyone get to play so they can be seen?

As far as complaining about the HS coaches not doing anything in the off season give it a rest. Coaches are using their position to enrich themselves on the backs of the players. They are not operating in the free marked they are being enabled by the BOE, School Administration, Athletic Directors, butt kissing parents and youth league parents.

Big conflict of interest when HS Coaches are profiting for any out of season games, practices, tournaments, training etc...

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Definition of Coercion:

"The broad definition of coercion is "the use of express or implied threats of violence or reprisal (as discharge from employment) or other intimidating behavior that puts a person in immediate fear of the consequences in order to compel that person to act against his or her will." Actual violence, threats of violence, or other acts of pressure may constitute coercion if they're used to subvert an individual's free will or consent.

In legal terms, it's often said that someone who's been coerced was acting under duress. In fact, "duress" and "coercion" are often interchanged. Black's Law Dictionary defines duress as "any unlawful threat or coercion used... to induce another to act [or to refrain from acting] in a manner [they] otherwise would not [or would]."

It's not always easy to tell when the line between subtle intimidation and coercion has been crossed and even harder to prove. A shrewd business negotiation may be considered contract coercion only if it can be proven that it was signed under duress. Similarly, proving criminal coercion (or duress) rests on the surrounding facts of the incident and may be quite subtle. For example, telling someone "Gee, I'd detest for something to happen to your daughter" is technically vague even when it's said with coercive intent."
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"Well son, if you want a shot at playing on the varsity you have to first play for my summer team (that will cost your parents thousands of dollars...). I know your parents have four kids but hay, if you want to play you have to pay."

If you can not see that there is a conflict of interest and that it is wrong you are not being honest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves. [/quote]

You're talking peanuts.

How about $2,000 per player for Summer Team.

How about a Tournament that charges approximately $300 per player? 25 players multiplied by $300 = $7,500 per team..... How many teams? 20 / 25? lets say the numbers are off a little.

For arguments sake lets assume 25 Teams with 22 players each @ $275 per player. Do the math:

275 x 22 = $6,050 per team x 25 teams = $151,250 (that is a conservative estimate)

If it were purely capitalism and a free market venture I would say great. But it is not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves.

You're talking peanuts.

How about $2,000 per player for Summer Team.

How about a Tournament that charges approximately $300 per player? 25 players multiplied by $300 = $7,500 per team..... How many teams? 20 / 25? lets say the numbers are off a little.

For arguments sake lets assume 25 Teams with 22 players each @ $275 per player. Do the math:

275 x 22 = $6,050 per team x 25 teams = $151,250 (that is a conservative estimate)

If it were purely capitalism and a free market venture I would say great. But it is not.
[/quote]

You’re an actual dope. Do whatever you want in the summer, playing for a club. This discussion is about HIGH SCHOOL teams. Completely different conversation. HS coaches should not be making money beyond reasonable expenses off players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves.

You're talking peanuts.

How about $2,000 per player for Summer Team.

How about a Tournament that charges approximately $300 per player? 25 players multiplied by $300 = $7,500 per team..... How many teams? 20 / 25? lets say the numbers are off a little.

For arguments sake lets assume 25 Teams with 22 players each @ $275 per player. Do the math:

275 x 22 = $6,050 per team x 25 teams = $151,250 (that is a conservative estimate)

If it were purely capitalism and a free market venture I would say great. But it is not.

You’re an actual dope. Do whatever you want in the summer, playing for a club. This discussion is about HIGH SCHOOL teams. Completely different conversation. HS coaches should not be making money beyond reasonable expenses off players.
[/quote]

That is the problem, The above illustration is about a public "High School" team.... And no, you really can not do what you want in the summer if you want to play on the HS Team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves.

You're talking peanuts.

How about $2,000 per player for Summer Team.

How about a Tournament that charges approximately $300 per player? 25 players multiplied by $300 = $7,500 per team..... How many teams? 20 / 25? lets say the numbers are off a little.

For arguments sake lets assume 25 Teams with 22 players each @ $275 per player. Do the math:

275 x 22 = $6,050 per team x 25 teams = $151,250 (that is a conservative estimate)

If it were purely capitalism and a free market venture I would say great. But it is not.

You’re an actual dope. Do whatever you want in the summer, playing for a club. This discussion is about HIGH SCHOOL teams. Completely different conversation. HS coaches should not be making money beyond reasonable expenses off players.
[/quote]

You just made the point... The above illustration is about a public high school program...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?

$175 is a lot. Our coach charges the cost of the tournament divided by how many players sign up. They do not take any money for themselves.

You're talking peanuts.

How about $2,000 per player for Summer Team.

How about a Tournament that charges approximately $300 per player? 25 players multiplied by $300 = $7,500 per team..... How many teams? 20 / 25? lets say the numbers are off a little.

For arguments sake lets assume 25 Teams with 22 players each @ $275 per player. Do the math:

275 x 22 = $6,050 per team x 25 teams = $151,250 (that is a conservative estimate)

If it were purely capitalism and a free market venture I would say great. But it is not.

You’re an actual dope. Do whatever you want in the summer, playing for a club. This discussion is about HIGH SCHOOL teams. Completely different conversation. HS coaches should not be making money beyond reasonable expenses off players.

You just made the point... The above illustration is about a public high school program...[/quote]

Wait... you’re saying a high school team is charging $275 for a fall tournament?? I thought mine was out of control at $175!! That is ludicrous! Needs to by stopped, this is terrible for the sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

As another poster suggested, no parent wants to be in the awkward position to question the Coach. From you’re flippant attitude toward this, I bet you are one of the coaches stealing from HS kids. We’ll see what your answer is when parents bring this up on a BOE meeting after their kids graduate. You better watch out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

Transfer schools. My kids coach is charging $20 per player for a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

You don't get it. Many parents do not say anything because it will negatively impact their child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

As another poster suggested, no parent wants to be in the awkward position to question the Coach. From you’re flippant attitude toward this, I bet you are one of the coaches stealing from HS kids. We’ll see what your answer is when parents bring this up on a BOE meeting after their kids graduate. You better watch out!

Not a coach, a parent just like the rest. I just refuse to complain about something I have no problem with. If I did, I would certainly say something to the coach. That's the difference between us, I speak up for myself and my children, I won't hide on an anonymous board and call people out, that's supposed to be done face to face. But you keep doing you pal, seems to be working for you. What I do know is YOU won't be in front of any BOE, that's too difficult. You will just complain on BOTC, which will get you exactly NOTHING.

Well, football season over for half us...time to think about lax!

Nassau Preseason Top 5:
Manhasset
Cold Spring Harbor
Massapequa
Syosset
Garden City

Honorable Mention
Farmingdale
Port Washington

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

As another poster suggested, no parent wants to be in the awkward position to question the Coach. From you’re flippant attitude toward this, I bet you are one of the coaches stealing from HS kids. We’ll see what your answer is when parents bring this up on a BOE meeting after their kids graduate. You better watch out!

Not a coach, a parent just like the rest. I just refuse to complain about something I have no problem with. If I did, I would certainly say something to the coach. That's the difference between us, I speak up for myself and my children, I won't hide on an anonymous board and call people out, that's supposed to be done face to face. But you keep doing you pal, seems to be working for you. What I do know is YOU won't be in front of any BOE, that's too difficult. You will just complain on BOTC, which will get you exactly NOTHING.

So, either you don't mind paying unreasonable fees, or your coach charges an appropriate amount of money for tournaments. What I don't understand is why you care so about what other people think. Maybe I'll go to the BOE, maybe I won't. But I do know that it's none of your business. We get it, you would walk up to the coach and give him a piece of your mind. Not everyone is in the position to do that. Maybe you should consider not constantly commenting on this issue and find something more productive to do. Maybe have a catch with your son?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

I really don't give a garbage about anything you say, you're more like an annoying gnat. If you're such a big man,not afraid to make your position known, then why don't you sign your name to the post?? I'd love to know the the person is behind all this useless advice.....just what I thought, mr. big talker scared to say who he is, but not afraid to keep interjecting his useless opinion! Talk about a "panty Waist". More like a complete hammerhead bag

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

I really don't give a garbage about anything you say, you're more like an annoying gnat. If you're such a big man,not afraid to make your position known, then why don't you sign your name to the post?? I'd love to know the the person is behind all this useless advice.....just what I thought, mr. big talker scared to say who he is, but not afraid to keep interjecting his useless opinion! Talk about a "panty Waist". More like a complete hammerhead bag

You first tough guy, let's hear it. Or just hide behind your wife's skirt, bashing your son's coach here, but not to his face. Talk about the pot calling the kettle. Go ahead tough guy, tell the coach what you think, show some balls, prove to your lad you're not a gutless pansy. Or don't and let him believe who you are. Could care less.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

As another poster suggested, no parent wants to be in the awkward position to question the Coach. From you’re flippant attitude toward this, I bet you are one of the coaches stealing from HS kids. We’ll see what your answer is when parents bring this up on a BOE meeting after their kids graduate. You better watch out!

Not a coach, a parent just like the rest. I just refuse to complain about something I have no problem with. If I did, I would certainly say something to the coach. That's the difference between us, I speak up for myself and my children, I won't hide on an anonymous board and call people out, that's supposed to be done face to face. But you keep doing you pal, seems to be working for you. What I do know is YOU won't be in front of any BOE, that's too difficult. You will just complain on BOTC, which will get you exactly NOTHING.

So, either you don't mind paying unreasonable fees, or your coach charges an appropriate amount of money for tournaments. What I don't understand is why you care so about what other people think. Maybe I'll go to the BOE, maybe I won't. But I do know that it's none of your business. We get it, you would walk up to the coach and give him a piece of your mind. Not everyone is in the position to do that. Maybe you should consider not constantly commenting on this issue and find something more productive to do. Maybe have a catch with your son?

I have had plenty of catches with my son, so don't worry, what annoys me is guys like you who make a big deal on here but won't do it where it counts. Just say nothing, it's meaningless. Your son plays a rich kids sport, get over it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just say no, show some values. Lacrosse is a small part of your sons life. Teach him what’s important, or don’t, it’s up to you to parent him. Don’t judge others, just do what you tho k is right. That’s all I’m saying. If you can’t do that, you’re not much of a dad.

Maybe you should tell (HS coaches, youth league board members, Athletic Directors, School Administrators and BOE members) to do the right thing. School sports should not be pay to play. There is an obvious conflict of interest. Parents and players in public school districts should not have to deal with the BS.

Maybe YOU should. Seems it’s your problem. Again it’s a matter of values. Teach them. Or don’t. But don’t ask me to fight your battles.

As another poster suggested, no parent wants to be in the awkward position to question the Coach. From you’re flippant attitude toward this, I bet you are one of the coaches stealing from HS kids. We’ll see what your answer is when parents bring this up on a BOE meeting after their kids graduate. You better watch out!

Not a coach, a parent just like the rest. I just refuse to complain about something I have no problem with. If I did, I would certainly say something to the coach. That's the difference between us, I speak up for myself and my children, I won't hide on an anonymous board and call people out, that's supposed to be done face to face. But you keep doing you pal, seems to be working for you. What I do know is YOU won't be in front of any BOE, that's too difficult. You will just complain on BOTC, which will get you exactly NOTHING.

So, either you don't mind paying unreasonable fees, or your coach charges an appropriate amount of money for tournaments. What I don't understand is why you care so about what other people think. Maybe I'll go to the BOE, maybe I won't. But I do know that it's none of your business. We get it, you would walk up to the coach and give him a piece of your mind. Not everyone is in the position to do that. Maybe you should consider not constantly commenting on this issue and find something more productive to do. Maybe have a catch with your son?

This is the mom or dad that thinks her/his son is not getting enough playing time and tells the coach.... that always works and your son is never embarrassed!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

I really don't give a garbage about anything you say, you're more like an annoying gnat. If you're such a big man,not afraid to make your position known, then why don't you sign your name to the post?? I'd love to know the the person is behind all this useless advice.....just what I thought, mr. big talker scared to say who he is, but not afraid to keep interjecting his useless opinion! Talk about a "panty Waist". More like a complete hammerhead bag

Breath... this person is trying to get a rise out of you and clearly it has. Half the stuff on this is nonsense to goat the next person. Don't take it too seriously and enjoy it for what it is, harmless laughs.

Best high school lax in the country and this is the best topic to discuss. smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

I really don't give a garbage about anything you say, you're more like an annoying gnat. If you're such a big man,not afraid to make your position known, then why don't you sign your name to the post?? I'd love to know the the person is behind all this useless advice.....just what I thought, mr. big talker scared to say who he is, but not afraid to keep interjecting his useless opinion! Talk about a "panty Waist". More like a complete hammerhead bag

You first tough guy, let's hear it. Or just hide behind your wife's skirt, bashing your son's coach here, but not to his face. Talk about the pot calling the kettle. Go ahead tough guy, tell the coach what you think, show some balls, prove to your lad you're not a gutless pansy. Or don't and let him believe who you are. Could care less.

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best high school lax in the country and this is the best topic to discuss. smh

Please explain your gibberish.

To comment here, on a public venue that something is none of someone's business is foolish. You post something, thereby making it everyone's business who reads it. That's why you posted to get stranger's opinions on your business. If you wish to keep it private, perhaps don't post it on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of voices on an anonymous site calling for change. Get in the trenches if you don’t like it. Have a conversation with the coach. I have never seen such a bunch of panty waist adults who won’t or can’t stand up for their children. If it bothered me enough to write about it, I would sure as heck do more than you clowns.

Maybe original poster was trying to gather information about what other schools do before asking questions. If it doesn't concern you go away, nobody cares about your opinion.

Looks like you do.

I really don't give a garbage about anything you say, you're more like an annoying gnat. If you're such a big man,not afraid to make your position known, then why don't you sign your name to the post?? I'd love to know the the person is behind all this useless advice.....just what I thought, mr. big talker scared to say who he is, but not afraid to keep interjecting his useless opinion! Talk about a "panty Waist". More like a complete hammerhead bag

You first tough guy, let's hear it. Or just hide behind your wife's skirt, bashing your son's coach here, but not to his face. Talk about the pot calling the kettle. Go ahead tough guy, tell the coach what you think, show some balls, prove to your lad you're not a gutless pansy. Or don't and let him believe who you are. Could care less.

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it,

Public High School coaches running for profit pay to play summer / tournament teams is a conflict of interest. It is even more of a conflict of interest if the summer / tournament team only accepts players from the coaches district.

Public school coaches requiring players to pay to play on their for profit team is coercion.

The Catholic School coaches all do it. Why shouldn't the public school coaches be allowed to do it ?

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot! [/quote]

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it, [/quote]

Update: Thank you to all who contributed positively to this discussion. Our HS coach has lowered the cost after we gained valuable feedback from both BOTC and other sources. Senior parent leadership spoke with the coach (there was no "confrontation"). Underclassman were spared possible scrutiny, and it all worked out great. Hope the ignorant poster can now get a new life and warrior another cause he has nothing to do with!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Catholic School coaches all do it. Why shouldn't the public school coaches be allowed to do it ?

No, they do not do it.

Chaminade and St. Anthony's Coaches are involved with The Long Island Express. Chaminade and St. Anthony's players do what they want in the off season, some play Express and some do not. Also, The Long Express takes the players who they believe to be the best fit for the team. In recent years players have come from many different HS. Players from Massapequa, Manhasset, Syosset, Ward Melville, Smithtown, Mt. Sinai, Kellenberg, Chaminade, St. Anthony's etc... play Express. Players from St. Anthony's and Chaminade are not required to play for the Express just because their HS coaches are involved.

Catholic schools are private institutions, you are not forced to attend the school because of where you live. In addition, The Express does not pretend to be a benevolent organization, The Express is a business and they operate as such and they do not hide that fact.

I do not believe any other Privates Schools have coaches as Directors of Club Teams.

Public and Private Schools can not be compared but even if you compare them... there is no comparison.

There is a definite conflict of interest on the public school side. If you do not see it your eyes are closed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just wow.
Research the word humility.......at least for your son's sake.

Humility has nothing to do with it. My son’s recruitment prospects are not an issue, as he’s already been recruited and does need to play. He wants to play because he loves his HS buddies and the game. I’m not against a the coaches making a few hundred for their time. Our Coach will make over $2000 for a one day tournament charging $175 each with a 25 kid roster with a tournament fee of 1,800. You don’t see a problem with this?
[/quote]

What you don't realize is they also receive kick backs from the tournament organizers. But, $175 per for 25 kids is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it, [/quote]

Update: Thank you to all who contributed positively to this discussion. Our HS coach has lowered the cost after we gained valuable feedback from both BOTC and other sources. Senior parent leadership spoke with the coach (there was no "confrontation"). Underclassman were spared possible scrutiny, and it all worked out great. Hope the ignorant poster can now get a new life and warrior another cause he has nothing to do with![/quote]

Nice, a fake post about what YOU should actually do. What a fine example you set for your kids. A made up solution. Should serve them well later in life. Clown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it,

Update: Thank you to all who contributed positively to this discussion. Our HS coach has lowered the cost after we gained valuable feedback from both BOTC and other sources. Senior parent leadership spoke with the coach (there was no "confrontation"). Underclassman were spared possible scrutiny, and it all worked out great. Hope the ignorant poster can now get a new life and warrior another cause he has nothing to do with![/quote]

Nice, a fake post about what YOU should actually do. What a fine example you set for your kids. A made up solution. Should serve them well later in life. Clown[/quote]

Lol, sad angry little man. Funny playing games with you. So bizzare you’re obsession with other people business. I’ve been around lacrosse a long time, and have 2 kids successful at top ten lacrosse programs, and another on his way. I know how things work, I also know there are many know it all losers encountered along the way. You may take one of the top prizes there. Although there are many jerks on here (like you), there are also many good people with positive advice and comments. As for you, Just wow!

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it,

Update: Thank you to all who contributed positively to this discussion. Our HS coach has lowered the cost after we gained valuable feedback from both BOTC and other sources. Senior parent leadership spoke with the coach (there was no "confrontation"). Underclassman were spared possible scrutiny, and it all worked out great. Hope the ignorant poster can now get a new life and warrior another cause he has nothing to do with!

Nice, a fake post about what YOU should actually do. What a fine example you set for your kids. A made up solution. Should serve them well later in life. Clown[/quote]

Lol, sad angry little man. Funny playing games with you. So bizzare you’re obsession with other people business. I’ve been around lacrosse a long time, and have 2 kids successful at top ten lacrosse programs, and another on his way. I know how things work, I also know there are many know it all losers encountered along the way. You may take one of the top prizes there. Although there are many jerks on here (like you), there are also many good people with positive advice and comments. As for you, Just wow!
[/quote]

Dude, you posted your business on BOTC, it’s everyone who reads it. I’ll say this as well, no way a clown like you has two kids at top ten anything. Much like your fantasy exchange with the HS coach, you’re two possibly three top tens are mythical, much like your balls. If you only want to hear what you want, just write that. Sometimes people have different opinions, too bad if that gets you in a pinch. Take a look in the mirror you chicken $h!t.

I guess the rankings stand. No comments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when are we going to find out who you are, the man who is not afraid to let people know what he thinks they sould do?Yup, your still chirping away behind your keyboard! What a complete coward you are. I on the other hand, came on here to gather anonymous information, which I will do what I feel is right with. Not sure why you care so much about nothing that concerns you. Amazing the anger you have, you keep saying you could care less, but obviously you care a lot!

stunad, if you post it here it's everyone's business, You answer your own questions so why bother. You are clearly an uneducated boob. You're a coward who won't confront his son's coaches who you think are doing you wrong. That's it,

Update: Thank you to all who contributed positively to this discussion. Our HS coach has lowered the cost after we gained valuable feedback from both BOTC and other sources. Senior parent leadership spoke with the coach (there was no "confrontation"). Underclassman were spared possible scrutiny, and it all worked out great. Hope the ignorant poster can now get a new life and warrior another cause he has nothing to do with!

Nice, a fake post about what YOU should actually do. What a fine example you set for your kids. A made up solution. Should serve them well later in life. Clown

Lol, sad angry little man. Funny playing games with you. So bizzare you’re obsession with other people business. I’ve been around lacrosse a long time, and have 2 kids successful at top ten lacrosse programs, and another on his way. I know how things work, I also know there are many know it all losers encountered along the way. You may take one of the top prizes there. Although there are many jerks on here (like you), there are also many good people with positive advice and comments. As for you, Just wow!
[/quote]

Dude, you posted your business on BOTC, it’s everyone who reads it. I’ll say this as well, no way a clown like you has two kids at top ten anything. Much like your fantasy exchange with the HS coach, you’re two possibly three top tens are mythical, much like your balls. If you only want to hear what you want, just write that. Sometimes people have different opinions, too bad if that gets you in a pinch. Take a look in the mirror.[/quote]

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't so naive. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Having had first hand knowledge of this, let me be clear, the St Anthony’s and Chaminade coaches don’t just encourage, they threaten kids to ensure they play with the express. It’s disgusting and anyone who has been involved knows it to be true. You either are kidding yourself with this statement or work for the Express. It’s criminal how the administrations continue to turn a blind eye to there mob like behavior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

“Strongly encourage”? What is wrong with that? Think again. If you look at the St. Anthony’s roster now, it’s filled with kids from many different travel teams. Not just Express. Starters are from all over as well. Best kids play the most no matter what club they play for. Parents make assumptions that because their kids does not play it’s because they don’t play for Express. Is it really? Maybe their kids are not as good as they think they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Having had first hand knowledge of this, let me be clear, the St Anthony’s and Chaminade coaches don’t just encourage, they threaten kids to ensure they play with the express. It’s disgusting and anyone who has been involved knows it to be true. You either are kidding yourself with this statement or work for the Express. It’s criminal how the administrations continue to turn a blind eye to there mob like behavior.

Your are clueless.

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't a dou***. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Having had first hand knowledge of this, let me be clear, the St Anthony’s and Chaminade coaches don’t just encourage, they threaten kids to ensure they play with the express. It’s disgusting and anyone who has been involved knows it to be true. You either are kidding yourself with this statement or work for the Express. It’s criminal how the administrations continue to turn a blind eye to there mob like behavior.

Your are clueless.

Just look at the past few years... Many players at both St. Anthony's and Chaminade not playing express. Do the coaches at those schools want their players to play Express? I am sure they do but it is not required.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't naive. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Having had first hand knowledge of this, let me be clear, the St Anthony’s and Chaminade coaches don’t just encourage, they threaten kids to ensure they play with the express. It’s disgusting and anyone who has been involved knows it to be true. You either are kidding yourself with this statement or work for the Express. It’s criminal how the administrations continue to turn a blind eye to there mob like behavior.

Your are clueless.

Just look at the past few years... Many players at both St. Anthony's and Chaminade not playing express. Do the coaches at those schools want their players to play Express? I am sure they do but it is not required.

Stop the BS, everyone knows it happens. You Catholics really stick together, shocking what you’ll let people in power do to your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at all the Chaminade and ST Anthonys lids on the express HS teams. The catholic school coaches strongly encourage Catholic school kids to play express..
If you think otherwise you are naive

You are dead wrong. That is the perception that many parents may have that they need to play for Express in order to play for St. A or Chaminade but it isn't true. Express has enough stature in the lacrosse community not to require such tactics. You can believe what you wish but there are plenty of kids that do not play for Express that do play for these HS. I don't think it hurts a player to be on Express and I am sure an Express player will get the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a great tryout but the coaches know he is a good player. At the end of the day, the best kids will be on the field playing in the games.

Having had first hand knowledge of this, let me be clear, the St Anthony’s and Chaminade coaches don’t just encourage, they threaten kids to ensure they play with the express. It’s disgusting and anyone who has been involved knows it to be true. You either are kidding yourself with this statement or work for the Express. It’s criminal how the administrations continue to turn a blind eye to there mob like behavior.

Your are clueless.

Just look at the past few years... Many players at both St. Anthony's and Chaminade not playing express. Do the coaches at those schools want their players to play Express? I am sure they do but it is not required.

Stop the BS, everyone knows it happens. You Catholics really stick together, shocking what you’ll let people in power do to your kids.

No BS. Facts, each year is different but if you look at the players at Chaminade and St. Anthony's over the past few years you will find that many players play for other clubs and many of the players were starters or played significant roles. So please stop your BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess the rankings stand. No comments?

More gibberish. What are you talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't a dou***. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Crickets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crickets...IAmInSecure

Yes, you are....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crickets...IAmInSecure

Yes, you are....

Some good lacrosse this weekend with NLI on Saturday and the LI Classic at Farmingdale on Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crickets...IAmInSecure

Yes, you are....

Some good lacrosse this weekend with NLI on Saturday and the LI Classic at Farmingdale on Sunday.

If you're invited, NLI is one of the best showcase events there is. Typically, 15-20 varsity teams and a ton of college coaches. Everyone gets a pretty good look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't a dou***. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Yep, I made up all these things because I had nothing better to do. That makes so much sense. How is that being a coward or liar. So, I wondered what other schools paid. I found out that my school paid more than others. I talked to other parents from my school. Questions were asked about where the money was going. Price was adjusted. And yet you are still obsessed and strangely angry about this?? Maybe you’re having a few too many drinks? Beating your dog? Wife cheating on you? Must be some reason why you’re so obsessed with this issue? Or maybe you’re a coach mad that someone is onto your stealing from the kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't a dou***. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Yep, I made up all these things because I had nothing better to do. That makes so much sense. How is that being a coward or liar. So, I wondered what other schools paid. I found out that my school paid more than others. I talked to other parents from my school. Questions were asked about where the money was going. Price was adjusted. And yet you are still obsessed and strangely angry about this?? Maybe you’re having a few too many drinks? Beating your dog? Wife cheating on you? Must be some reason why you’re so obsessed with this issue? Or maybe you’re a coach mad that someone is onto your stealing from the kids?

Yes, you made it all up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't nieve. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Yep, I made up all these things because I had nothing better to do. That makes so much sense. How is that being a coward or liar. So, I wondered what other schools paid. I found out that my school paid more than others. I talked to other parents from my school. Questions were asked about where the money was going. Price was adjusted. And yet you are still obsessed and strangely angry about this?? Maybe you’re having a few too many drinks? Beating your dog? Wife cheating on you? Must be some reason why you’re so obsessed with this issue? Or maybe you’re a coach mad that someone is onto your stealing from the kids?

Yes, you made it all up.

You got me, yes, I made up all of it. Had nothing better to do. Now since you are such a stand up guy, knowing everything about everyone, why don't you let us know who you are? But you won't because you are the only real coward here!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't nieve. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Yep, I made up all these things because I had nothing better to do. That makes so much sense. How is that being a coward or liar. So, I wondered what other schools paid. I found out that my school paid more than others. I talked to other parents from my school. Questions were asked about where the money was going. Price was adjusted. And yet you are still obsessed and strangely angry about this?? Maybe you’re having a few too many drinks? Beating your dog? Wife cheating on you? Must be some reason why you’re so obsessed with this issue? Or maybe you’re a coach mad that someone is onto your stealing from the kids?

Yes, you made it all up.

You got me, yes, I made up all of it. Had nothing better to do. Now since you are such a stand up guy, knowing everything about everyone, why don't you let us know who you are? But you won't because you are the only real coward here!

Jesus, Mary & Joseph, enough already. Take this private if you have to. No one cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!! Sad, angry lost. I would actually feel sorry for you if you weren't a dou***. It is kind of funny getting you to keep responding thinking you know who an anonymous person is or isn't! Boy would you be surprised! If only you spent so much effort in worrying about your own kids, maybe you wouldn't be so angry !

Angry, hmm, you asked strangers on a public site for opinions, you got one that said, just say no. You then got angry at the response. Here is the thing, you took the time to make up some fantasy scenario where you bravely confront the coach of your son's team. I don't care about your anonymity, much like you don't care about mine. You don't feel sorry for me, and I don't feel sorry for you. You have to lay your head down every night knowing you are too afraid to confront something that bothers you so much you asked for the help of strangers in solving it. I'm not angry, just sad for your kids, they have to live with a dad who is a coward. They will look up to you and just know, you got it wrong. So good luck, keep asking for advice here, just don't always expect to read what you think you're going to get. Coward, LOL

I actually got exactly the information I was looking for on here. I have found this site helpful in getting information from other parents who don't always want to be identified. The only weirdly angry response was from you, an angry man with no connection to the question. Some parents from my school wanted to know what other schools were charging for fall tournaments, as we were suspicious that we might be overcharged. Then YOU, the crazy judgmental psycho swooped in to try to tell me what I should do. Either answer the question or scroll past, it's not that hard. Nobody wanted your advice as to how to proceed. Luckily we were able to negotiate a fair price for the fall tournaments. But somehow you're still angry about that? Go figure? I can't help wonder what kind of poor excuse of a father you are!

You story about negotiating a fair price is BS. Why don’t you tell us which school so we can all follow your lead. Or is it another fantasy. Talk about weird, makes up a scenario he wishes he had undertaken, makes up two top ten players and a rising third, has been through it all, but needs advice on here? Makes complete sense. Really, it does. You are a coward and a liar. Go figure LOL

Yep, I made up all these things because I had nothing better to do. That makes so much sense. How is that being a coward or liar. So, I wondered what other schools paid. I found out that my school paid more than others. I talked to other parents from my school. Questions were asked about where the money was going. Price was adjusted. And yet you are still obsessed and strangely angry about this?? Maybe you’re having a few too many drinks? Beating your dog? Wife cheating on you? Must be some reason why you’re so obsessed with this issue? Or maybe you’re a coach mad that someone is onto your stealing from the kids?

Yes, you made it all up.

You got me, yes, I made up all of it. Had nothing better to do. Now since you are such a stand up guy, knowing everything about everyone, why don't you let us know who you are? But you won't because you are the only real coward here!

You first.

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard, but actually just a [ChillLaxin]. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

Agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard, but actually just a [ChillLaxin]. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

What are you going to do beat me up? Haha haha, sure clown. Little mad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard, but actually just punk. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

What are you going to do beat me up? Haha haha, sure clown. Little mad?

Nope, not mad, but I could see why you’re so scared to say who you are, never know what could happen! Such big things to say, but now who’s the coward? Big beer muscles from the keyboard cowboy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard, but actually just a [ChillLaxin]. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

What are you going to do beat me up? Haha haha, sure clown. Little mad?

Nope, not mad, but I could see why you’re so scared to say who you are, never know what could happen! Such big things to say, but now who’s the coward? Big beer muscles from the keyboard cowboy

Why didn’t you call out the coach chicken $hit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, the big man with so much to say is too scared to say how he is. Big bully behind your keyboard, but actually just a [ChillLaxin]. Exactly what I thought!

Says the guy hiding behind his keyboard. Kind of makes sense. Angry little coward and liar.

Now your using my words. What a joke you are. So tough, telling people what they should do, but afraid of putting your name to it. I have no problem admitting I came on an anonymous site, looking for anonymous information. You decided to act all tough saying real men would not be afraid say who they are. Since your the real man, who are you? So now you're afraid to stand up and say who you are? Just what I already knew you were, an Ignorant hole.

What are you going to do beat me up? Haha haha, sure clown. Little mad?

Nope, not mad, but I could see why you’re so scared to say who you are, never know what could happen! Such big things to say, but now who’s the coward? Big beer muscles from the keyboard cowboy

Why didn’t you call out the coach chicken $hit?

When I first saw this back and forth I was amused. Then it started getting really annoying and now it is embarrassing. Sort of reminds me of grade school when the tough guy said "just wait until school is over" blah blah. The two of you just be done with the conversation as neither of you are ever going to admit who you are and there are more productive ways to spend your time.

Lots of pent up rage and testosterone flying around...geez. Two words: Seek Counseling!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crickets...IAmInSecure

Yes, you are....

Some good lacrosse this weekend with NLI on Saturday and the LI Classic at Farmingdale on Sunday.

It was cold and windy both days but alot of good lax.

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

Division IV? Suffolk County? WOW!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

Does it bother you that your son is not a star on this team? You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

It will be Sinai & SWR in lacrosse as well just like this past year will be an unpredictable game

WI will win B's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

Shoreham is stacked in FB & Lax. They have 5 2021 D1 Commits already and another 8 2020 D1 commits with a few of them being top 20 in the County.

wI will win B's [/quote]

WI will not win B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

Does it bother you that your son is not a star on this team? You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

It will be Sinai and SWR in lacrosse as well just like this past year will be an unpredictable game

wI will win B's

Shoreham is just stacked with athletes...can't see a team beating them

WI will win B's [/quote]

WI will not win B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

Shoreham is stacked in FB & Lax. They have 5 2021 D1 Commits already and another 8 2020 D1 commits with a few of them being top 20 in the County.

There is 1 top 20 2020 recruit.( the attackman) Rest are average Navy kid is best of rest goalie is good but , kid going to PSU that came from St A is not very good at all word is he left STA because he never played guess we’ll see
The 21 class has three elite players the D man and the two brothers Others no good
I agree tho that SWR is the favorite for sure tho but I don’t think it’s as good as last years team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So ....the Shoram boys put a beat down on the Mt. Sinai boys today at the Suffolk County Football championship . Looks like a sign of what’s to come in lax season!

You got the championship you were looking for. Worth the move?

Shoreham is stacked in FB & Lax. They have 5 2021 D1 Commits already and another 8 2020 D1 commits with a few of them being top 20 in the County.

There is 1 top 20 2020 recruit.( the attackman) Rest are average Navy kid is best of rest goalie is good but , kid going to PSU that came from St A is not very good at all word is he left STA because he never played guess we’ll see
The 21 class has three elite players the D man and the two brothers Others no good
I agree tho that SWR is the favorite for sure tho but I don’t think it’s as good as last years team

Lets play the games and see what happens! Results don't lie!

SWR is better this year than last year. See if the transfer messes up the chemistry-a real possibility-or if there is me ball. That is the only way this team loses... #1 in Suffolk. Conference iv or not...

Football wise, Would of liked a shot at CSH again. Should roll vs. Seaford, better match up.

WI will dominate the B's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

This is why I love this cite. I don't know SWR from WI to Mt. Sinai or the details of any of the teams referenced but when someone says "8 2020 D1 commits" someone else says 7 of them are average. Then actually notes the kid going to PSU is not very good. Assuming we are talking about Penn State - yup probably not good at all. So 7 "average" D1 commits and a kid going Penn State who isn't very good. Whew. Good thing I come here to ascertain lax knowledge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

Agreed West Islip then Wogue , HF

Not sure if everyone saw this. Exciting for the boys who were named. I'm sure many should have been on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

I can't tell if the people that have been trying to hype West Islip the past few years are from WI or if they are pot stirrers. WI has a good program but they have not been true contenders for more than 5 or 6 years.

Maybe dropping to B will be a good thing for them.

Who will win A? Will West find a way this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

I can't tell if the people that have been trying to hype West Islip the past few years are from WI or if they are pot stirrers. WI has a good program but they have not been true contenders for more than 5 or 6 years.

Maybe dropping to B will be a good thing for them.

Who will win A? Will West find a way this year?

West who? Hope you’re not talking about Smithtown, they don’t have a prayer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

I can't tell if the people that have been trying to hype West Islip the past few years are from WI or if they are pot stirrers. WI has a good program but they have not been true contenders for more than 5 or 6 years.

Maybe dropping to B will be a good thing for them.

Who will win A? Will West find a way this year?

This is all nonsense. St. Anthony's will be the best team without question. Chaminade is #2. Rest of teams are not even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR is better this year than last year. See if the transfer messes up the chemistry-a real possibility-or if there is me ball. That is the only way this team loses... #1 in Suffolk. Conference iv or not...

Football wise, Would of liked a shot at CSH again. Should roll vs. Seaford, better match up.

Your arrogance is unbelievable. I am hoping that the above post was not written by a SWR parent. How many tough opponents did SWR have on their schedule last year? They got smoked by GC and John Jay. Went 1 and 1 vs. Sinai. Beat CSH. The way I see it, 2 for 5 vs the only decent teams they played. How many tough games will SWR have this year?

FB, already counting on a LI championship because of one player. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

Kid, keep dreaming. This isn't top heavy D1. You'll have your hands full almost every game. You will be humbled

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

I can't tell if the people that have been trying to hype West Islip the past few years are from WI or if they are pot stirrers. WI has a good program but they have not been true contenders for more than 5 or 6 years.

Maybe dropping to B will be a good thing for them.

Who will win A? Will West find a way this year?

This is all nonsense. St. Anthony's will be the best team without question. Chaminade is #2. Rest of teams are not even close.

Tend to agree, can't see any of the publics being better than St. Anthonys or Chaminade this year. Massapequa and Ward Melville will be down from where they have been the past 3 or 4 years. Don't think Smithtown West will be as strong as they have been the past few years either but with WM a little off maybe they can win the county championship. Manhasset, Garden City, SWR and Mt. Sinai will all be strong but I do not think that they will be better than either private. CHS? Some years the Top Publics can beat Chaminade and St. Anthony's I don't think this is one of those years.

Who are the sleepers? I think this could be a year that a non traditional team can win a county championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR is better this year than last year. See if the transfer messes up the chemistry-a real possibility-or if there is me ball. That is the only way this team loses... #1 in Suffolk. Conference iv or not...

Football wise, Would of liked a shot at CSH again. Should roll vs. Seaford, better match up.

Your arrogance is unbelievable. I am hoping that the above post was not written by a SWR parent. How many tough opponents did SWR have on their schedule last year? They got smoked by GC and John Jay. Went 1 and 1 vs. Sinai. Beat CSH. The way I see it, 2 for 5 vs the only decent teams they played. How many tough games will SWR have this year?

FB, already counting on a LI championship because of one player. Good luck.

Please do not bring football into the equation. In lacrosse these teams can compete but in football no chance vs Nassau and Suffolk A and B. Not even close.

West Islip by far is the deepest team in the B's , multiple kids going to college to play . They are the favorite for Suffolk county but will struggle in LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will dominate the B's

yea most of the B schools are terrified!

I can't tell if the people that have been trying to hype West Islip the past few years are from WI or if they are pot stirrers. WI has a good program but they have not been true contenders for more than 5 or 6 years.

Maybe dropping to B will be a good thing for them.

Who will win A? Will West find a way this year?

This is all nonsense. St. Anthony's will be the best team without question. Chaminade is #2. Rest of teams are not even close.

Tend to agree, can't see any of the publics being better than St. Anthonys or Chaminade this year. Massapequa and Ward Melville will be down from where they have been the past 3 or 4 years. Don't think Smithtown West will be as strong as they have been the past few years either but with WM a little off maybe they can win the county championship. Manhasset, Garden City, SWR and Mt. Sinai will all be strong but I do not think that they will be better than either private. CHS? Some years the Top Publics can beat Chaminade and St. Anthony's I don't think this is one of those years.

Who are the sleepers? I think this could be a year that a non traditional team can win a county championship.

Northport always has legit talent, just tends to be in the shadow of realm where they can't get out of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip by far is the deepest team in the B's , multiple kids going to college to play . They are the favorite for Suffolk county but will struggle in LIC

To say that WI is “by far” the deepest team in B is totally ignorant and suggests that you don’t know Suffolk lax very well. They’ll have to get past Comsewogue, HF, Islip & EI first. Most, if not all, are just as deep. All have multiple kids playing at the next level. You’re setting yourself up for an ongoing verbal beat down here on BOTC

Transfer to SWR will no doubt mess up the chemistry. Couldn't handle the big leagues at SA. Ran once there was a hint of criticism. Just look at the travel program history. Where have they not been?????? ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip by far is the deepest team in the B's , multiple kids going to college to play . They are the favorite for Suffolk county but will struggle in LIC

Bahahaha, whose fav? This shameless self promotion is comical. You can’t be serious

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Transfer to SWR will no doubt mess up the chemistry. Couldn't handle the big leagues at SA. Ran once there was a hint of criticism. Just look at the travel program history. Where have they not been?????? ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

He made a decision which he felt was in his best interest, moving back to public school. Now he's considered old news, in regards to where he once was. Remember, no single student will ever become bigger than SA's as a whole!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

Too bad they won't get to play JJ in any meaningful game in 2020. WI isn't getting out of Suffolk, let alone getting off the island to play the Section 1 winner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

My son is a Freshman in Nassau Conference 1 and was told he will be on Varsity this year. So I figured I check out the HS thread. This thread is just as crazy as the travel threads. At what age do all the crazy delusional dads start to relax. The amount of stupidity that is spewed on this site is crazy, however it is amusing at times. Anyway good luck to all in the upcoming year and Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip by far is the deepest team in the B's , multiple kids going to college to play . They are the favorite for Suffolk county but will struggle in LIC

To say that WI is “by far” the deepest team in B is totally ignorant and suggests that you don’t know Suffolk lax very well. They’ll have to get past Comsewogue, HF, Islip & EI first. Most, if not all, are just as deep. All have multiple kids playing at the next level. You’re setting yourself up for an ongoing verbal beat down here on BOTC

Will be a battle but WI will be on top of B’s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Good Luck to you too.....in the 2 games vs. tough opponents your team will play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Good Luck to you too.....in the 2 games vs. tough opponents your team will play.

Simply Ignorant! John Jay, GC, Comsewogue, WI, Mt Sinai, HF... I count at least 6. Like I said Good Luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Good Luck to you too.....in the 2 games vs. tough opponents your team will play.

Simply Ignorant! John Jay, GC, Comsewogue, WI, Mt Sinai, HF... I count at least 6. Like I said Good Luck!

Just to clear things up.....you or another SWR person (most likely you) posted that SWR is the best team in Suffolk, regardless of the conference. Additionally, you insinuated an upcoming victory over Seaford in the class IV football LIC (previous post-not on this thread). I hope your son can cash the check your big mouth wrote to fulfill your bigger ego. Facts are facts SWR strength of schedule is not good in lacrosse or football. Lacrosse wise, the team is very good, and as I stated, they may not get the national recognition they may deserve because of their weak schedule. Your [ChillLaxin] is that SWR is “already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing.” Yeah....ok. Winning a state championship is great, but is is not, “all that matters.” Lastly, no one needs your “Good Luck”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Good Luck to you too.....in the 2 games vs. tough opponents your team will play.

Simply Ignorant! John Jay, GC, Comsewogue, WI, Mt Sinai, HF... I count at least 6. Like I said Good Luck!

Just to clear things up.....you or another SWR person (most likely you) posted that SWR is the best team in Suffolk, regardless of the conference. Additionally, you insinuated an upcoming victory over Seaford in the class IV football LIC (previous post-not on this thread). I hope your son can cash the check your big mouth wrote to fulfill your bigger ego. Facts are facts SWR strength of schedule is not good in lacrosse or football. Lacrosse wise, the team is very good, and as I stated, they may not get the national recognition they may deserve because of their weak schedule. Your [ChillLaxin] is that SWR is “already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing.” Yeah....ok. Winning a state championship is great, but is is not, “all that matters.” Lastly, no one needs your “Good Luck”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking a 7-9 loss to John Jay mid season is hardly getting smoked Genius!

I am smart enough to know how to use the quote feature. Also smart enough to know SWR plays no one and will not get the national recognition they may deserve. Especially if they win the few tough matchups they have this year unlike last year when they went 2 and 3.

Obviously not as smart as you think you are. Shoreham’s already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing. Winning the State Championship is all that matters. Good luck!!

Good Luck to you too.....in the 2 games vs. tough opponents your team will play.

Simply Ignorant! John Jay, GC, Comsewogue, WI, Mt Sinai, HF... I count at least 6. Like I said Good Luck!

Just to clear things up.....you or another SWR person (most likely you) posted that SWR is the best team in Suffolk, regardless of the conference. Additionally, you insinuated an upcoming victory over Seaford in the class IV football LIC (previous post-not on this thread). I hope your son can cash the check your big mouth wrote to fulfill your bigger ego. Facts are facts SWR strength of schedule is not good in lacrosse or football. Lacrosse wise, the team is very good, and as I stated, they may not get the national recognition they may deserve because of their weak schedule. Your retort is that SWR is “already ranked nationally and truthfully means absolutely nothing.” Yeah....ok. Winning a state championship is great, but is is not, “all that matters.” Lastly, no one needs your “Good Luck”.

What an angry little man you are😂😂 You should really talk to someone about that. Good luck!! It’s clear you need it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a Freshman in Nassau Conference 1 and was told he will be on Varsity this year. So I figured I check out the HS thread. This thread is just as crazy as the travel threads. At what age do all the crazy delusional dads start to relax. The amount of stupidity that is spewed on this site is crazy, however it is amusing at times. Anyway good luck to all in the upcoming year and Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations, that is a great accomplishment. Now get ready for some meathead to call you out for bragging that your kid got pulled up, and it must be a weak team. These people are crazy.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a Freshman in Nassau Conference 1 and was told he will be on Varsity this year. So I figured I check out the HS thread. This thread is just as crazy as the travel threads. At what age do all the crazy delusional dads start to relax. The amount of stupidity that is spewed on this site is crazy, however it is amusing at times. Anyway good luck to all in the upcoming year and Happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations, that is a great accomplishment. Now get ready for some meathead to call you out for bragging that your kid got pulled up, and it must be a weak team. These people are crazy.

Sounds like you're that "meathead" he was talking about. But who really cares...

Random musings:
I will be shocked if WI doesn't win the B's in suffolk.
They will then lose to Manhasset in LIC.
John Jay was an excellent team last year and will be good this year.
SWR will be tough for any team to beat this year regardless of class or county.
SWR football could play with anyone. They had size on the line, best player in the county and top skill guys all over the field. As predicted, they throttled Seaford who did not match up well with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Random musings:
I will be shocked if WI doesn't win the B's in suffolk.
They will then lose to Manhasset in LIC.
John Jay was an excellent team last year and will be good this year.
SWR will be tough for any team to beat this year regardless of class or county.
SWR football could play with anyone. They had size on the line, best player in the county and top skill guys all over the field. As predicted, they throttled Seaford who did not match up well with them.

Random?? Seem very focused on SWR so I wouldnt say random including your break down of SWR "line"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Random musings:
I will be shocked if WI doesn't win the B's in suffolk.
They will then lose to Manhasset in LIC.
John Jay was an excellent team last year and will be good this year.
SWR will be tough for any team to beat this year regardless of class or county.
SWR football could play with anyone. They had size on the line, best player in the county and top skill guys all over the field. As predicted, they throttled Seaford who did not match up well with them.

Please stop... They could not play with anyone and would in fact be blown out by the top teams on the Island. Best player is excellent and would obviously be a star just about everywhere but the team.... give it a rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Random musings:
I will be shocked if WI doesn't win the B's in suffolk.
They will then lose to Manhasset in LIC.
John Jay was an excellent team last year and will be good this year.
SWR will be tough for any team to beat this year regardless of class or county.
SWR football could play with anyone. They had size on the line, best player in the county and top skill guys all over the field. As predicted, they throttled Seaford who did not match up well with them.

Please stop... They could not play with anyone and would in fact be blown out by the top teams on the Island. Best player is excellent and would obviously be a star just about everywhere but the team.... give it a rest.

No team that plays Div IV can lay any claim of superiority to anything but that Division. It is as weak as it gets. SWR would compete in D III football, that's about it.

You are wrong. Speaking for Nassau anyway, the top teams in Nassau or Suffolk 4 would handily beat any Nassau 2 teams outside of GC and MacArthur this year. Bottom of Nassau 1 is awful and only Plainedge was good from conference 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong. Speaking for Nassau anyway, the top teams in Nassau or Suffolk 4 would handily beat any Nassau 2 teams outside of GC and MacArthur this year. Bottom of Nassau 1 is awful and only Plainedge was good from conference 3.

Sorry, I was speaking of Suffolk. Not as familiar with Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are wrong. Speaking for Nassau anyway, the top teams in Nassau or Suffolk 4 would handily beat any Nassau 2 teams outside of GC and MacArthur this year. Bottom of Nassau 1 is awful and only Plainedge was good from conference 3.

How in the world did you come up with MacArthur and not Manhasset. Unless mistaken, MacArthur lost to Roslyn in the playoffs last year and they are in the lower B conference.

"You are wrong. Speaking for Nassau anyway, the top teams in Nassau or Suffolk 4 would handily beat any Nassau 2 teams outside of GC and MacArthur this year. Bottom of Nassau 1 is awful and only Plainedge was good from conference 3. "

"How in the world did you come up with MacArthur and not Manhasset. Unless mistaken, MacArthur lost to Roslyn in the playoffs last year and they are in the lower B conference."

First off, was discussing football and this season. As for lacrosse and last year, Manhasset in my view WAS the best team in Nassau. Not sure what happened MacArthur vs. Roslyn last year in lacrosse or if they even played, but I would be shocked if Roslyn beat them last year in lax...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"You are wrong. Speaking for Nassau anyway, the top teams in Nassau or Suffolk 4 would handily beat any Nassau 2 teams outside of GC and MacArthur this year. Bottom of Nassau 1 is awful and only Plainedge was good from conference 3. "

"How in the world did you come up with MacArthur and not Manhasset. Unless mistaken, MacArthur lost to Roslyn in the playoffs last year and they are in the lower B conference."

First off, was discussing football and this season. As for lacrosse and last year, Manhasset in my view WAS the best team in Nassau. Not sure what happened MacArthur vs. Roslyn last year in lacrosse or if they even played, but I would be shocked if Roslyn beat them last year in lax...

Just an observer but if this is a lacrosse forum why are you discussing football?

Just an observer but if this is a lacrosse forum why are you discussing football?[/quote]

Because the SWR guy started it

Because at least half of the athletes that make up the football teams also play on the lacrosse teams at all the schools. Scientific data. 4/5 dentists agree. 99% pure. All natural.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because at least half of the athletes that make up the football teams also play on the lacrosse teams at all the schools. Scientific data. 4/5 dentists agree. 99% pure. All natural.

You pulled that stat out of your a$$

Fact: Massapequa had an awful football season, won a state championship in Lax. One has nothing to do with the other.

SWR is not like Mt. Sinai. The more upscale town is Mt Sinai.

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

This Clown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR is not like Mt. Sinai. The more upscale town is Mt Sinai.

Not after the RP and SWR trash moved to town!

A lot of kids with 6 fingers and toes and an odd glow about them from SWR...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

I am not an expert in grammar but pretty sure "Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!" is not correct. Either the person is educated or they are ill-informed... ; - )

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

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No skin in this argument at all, Nassau C-1 parent. The person posting this stupidity regarding WI is more then likely not a WI parent, just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

WI is in for a rude awakening Will have 4 losses Swr Sinai,Wogue HF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

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No skin in this argument at all, Nassau C-1 parent. The person posting this stupidity regarding WI is more then likely not a WI parent, just my opinion.

Not so sure about that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

WI is in for a rude awakening Will have 4 losses Swr Sinai,Wogue HF

I wouldn't sleep on BBP or Islip either. Big mistake to take those two teams lightly. WI hasn't been dominant in years, nothing will change this spring.

WI will NOT lose to Harborfields. HF will be a four goal underdog. Wogue will be close. WI is at least a 3 goal underdog vs. Mt. or the nuclear plant...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI will NOT lose to Harborfields. HF will be a four goal underdog. Wogue will be close. WI is at least a 3 goal underdog vs. Mt. or the nuclear plant...

Hahahaha, go back to class kid. Too funny. HF, Wogue, MS & SWR will all win convincingly over WI. Nothing special. Can't wait til you get lit up on the field and on BOTC

West Islip will destroy HF they have too many offensive weapons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip will destroy HF they have too many offensive weapons

Just goes to show how little you know about your new opponents. You boys are doomed by your overconfidence. I think your coach would agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR is not like Mt. Sinai. The more upscale town is Mt Sinai.

Not after the RP and SWR trash moved to town!

Aint that the truth of it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SWR is not like Mt. Sinai. The more upscale town is Mt Sinai.

Not after the RP and SWR trash moved to town!

Aint that the truth of it!

Any skinny on the results of the seed meetings for Nassau and Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

WI is in for a rude awakening Will have 4 losses Swr Sinai,Wogue HF

Not likely

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP will dominate in Division 2 , they will struggle with SWR abd SIANI but there is no team in D2 that comes close

West Islip is in a different division than Mt Sinai and SWR. Just goes to show how educated and ill-informed you truly are!!

Not a Mt Sinai guy, but they dominated all of DII last season regardless of conference. Closest game was w HF and MS won by 3, I believe. WI would dominate the D conf, nothing more. You WI people will learn that to dominate all of DII is rare. Game after game is a battle. Not what your used to in DI. Have some humility, it’ll save you in the long run. You’re obviously in for a surprise.

WI is in for a rude awakening Will have 4 losses Swr Sinai,Wogue HF

Not likely

most likely. You lost your best player last year. You will be eating your own words.

what is the earliest day high school teams can practice ?

Sachem North head coach canned. Good riddance. Hopefully the next coach has a shred of integrity and lax will be a priority instead of high school girls.

last year tryouts started MARCH 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what is the earliest day high school teams can practice ?

its on section 11 look it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sachem North head coach canned. Good riddance. Hopefully the next coach has a shred of integrity and lax will be a priority instead of high school girls.

Yeah, he was a turd.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sachem North head coach canned. Good riddance. Hopefully the next coach has a shred of integrity and lax will be a priority instead of high school girls.

Sachem has been going downhill for years: a proud athletic tradition has been ruined by those tasked with protecting it.

Congratulations to all the boys who made the All-Decade team. Huge Honor, especially for those still in HS!

https://www.newsday.com/sports/high-school/top-li-high-school-athletes-2010s-boys-1.40194091

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

WI tuning up ... Ready to EAT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI tuning up ... Ready to EAT

scary!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sachem North head coach canned. Good riddance. Hopefully the next coach has a shred of integrity and lax will be a priority instead of high school girls.

Sachem has been going downhill for years: a proud athletic tradition has been ruined by those tasked with protecting it.

Bunch of meat heads and low class in Sachem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

It couldn't possibly be that there are other areas with just as many if not more "strong" players.... from what I have seen, the players that do not go to the tryouts are the players that have parents that can not take it when their son does not make it.... because the parent is convinced that their son is the best...

Maybe, just maybe other areas are producing stronger players....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

The LI UA tryouts are by far one of the most attended events by college coaches. The selection process and control by the 2 largest clubs and the catholic schools has plagued the LI team but now has run its course. They have set up a competing event so they can have 100% control and of course charge those families twice as much. I would expect UA to have a more fair playing field as the NLF kids and their program directors move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

The LI UA tryouts are by far one of the most attended events by college coaches. The selection process and control by the 2 largest clubs and the catholic schools has plagued the LI team but now has run its course. They have set up a competing event so they can have 100% control and of course charge those families twice as much. I would expect UA to have a more fair playing field as the NLF kids and their program directors move on.

Over the years I have heard many complaints but from what I have seen there are only a handful of players capable of making the UA teams who do not play for one of the 2 clubs that you reference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

The LI UA tryouts are by far one of the most attended events by college coaches. The selection process and control by the 2 largest clubs and the catholic schools has plagued the LI team but now has run its course. They have set up a competing event so they can have 100% control and of course charge those families twice as much. I would expect UA to have a more fair playing field as the NLF kids and their program directors move on.

UA is rigged but the previous post is correct that it is very well attended by many colleges. You may have to get over the fact your son may not make the team. The goal is to get looked at and making the top 50 game is a great way to do that. Still political even for top 50 but less of a hurdle. If you want to talk about great exposure then get your son to tryout for the NYS regional team. The event in Binghamton is good (not great) but the the most coaches you will see are at the top 50 games where they have suffolk county on one field and nassau county on the other. Coaches from end line to end line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

The LI UA tryouts are by far one of the most attended events by college coaches. The selection process and control by the 2 largest clubs and the catholic schools has plagued the LI team but now has run its course. They have set up a competing event so they can have 100% control and of course charge those families twice as much. I would expect UA to have a more fair playing field as the NLF kids and their program directors move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the years there has been a lot of complaining on here about the selection process for the Under Armour tryouts. Many people seem to think that Long Island has the best talent and that the only reason the LI Team team doesn't win every year is because the coaches pick the wrong players.

I just looked at the Inside Lacrosse Preseason All-American Team and it looks like maybe 5 of the 58 players are from Long Island. I think maybe the reason Long Island doesn't win every year is because other areas also have good players. I am guessing that Baltimore and the Philly area have more AA's...

Under Armour on Long Island has become a joke and yes the better kids shy away because of coaching. Our performance last year was embarrassing and not a true reflection of the top talent on Long Island. In addition, we now take kids from well outside the Island to play while cutting good talent that shows up at the tryouts. Like Jake Reed, Nike Bluechip, Under Armiur will also pass. Don’t waste your money....

The LI UA tryouts are by far one of the most attended events by college coaches. The selection process and control by the 2 largest clubs and the catholic schools has plagued the LI team but now has run its course. They have set up a competing event so they can have 100% control and of course charge those families twice as much. I would expect UA to have a more fair playing field as the NLF kids and their program directors move on.

Last year the selection process was not run by the 2 top teams or the Catholic schools. It was run by public school coaches, linked to other clubs. As long as they have coaches from any sector of LI there will always be a biased selection process. Why not bring in outside evaluators? Last years teams were an embarrassment in Maryland. Let’s see what the future holds.

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI tuning up ... Ready to EAT

typical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

There are some who will never get it. Some think that they know everything and they also believe that their kid is the best. I know parents who did not bring their kids to tryouts and then would tell everyone it's a waste of time because it is all political. The real reason is that certain parents can not take it when others do not agree that the kid is the best. Every coach / evaluator is going to have a bias but coaches do try to select the best team. No coach selects "All" of their own players. Go look at the NCAA Division I All-American Team... There are great players from all over the country it is foolish to think that Long Island should win every year. It does not matter who selects the players it will be a challenge to win at UA.

The problem is the parents thinking there kid is better than he is , the great players that are DIV 1 jumps off the page when they play you can not argue with it . People have to realize if you want to play lacrosse at the next level you can find a place to play but you have to be realistic

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

Do yourselves a favor and register for the LI Showcase run by the Nassau/Suffolk County Coaches. Its half the price with just as many college coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

Do yourselves a favor and register for the LI Showcase run by the Nassau/Suffolk County Coaches. Its half the price with just as many college coaches

The Li Showcase is just as Political!!! Its a great experience (my son had a great time) the price is great compared to the others but is it very political. One of the younger teams last year was run by a PAL coach who took his son and his friends kids. They went as the Catholic school team. ( none of the kids went to Catholic school) only 1 or 2 kids even made the top 50. On my sons team, there were many kids who made the top 50 but didn't make the team. I know its subjective and its hard to judge with limited time on the field. But its definitely Political!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

Do yourselves a favor and register for the LI Showcase run by the Nassau/Suffolk County Coaches. Its half the price with just as many college coaches

The Li Showcase is just as Political!!! Its a great experience (my son had a great time) the price is great compared to the others but is it very political. One of the younger teams last year was run by a PAL coach who took his son and his friends kids. They went as the Catholic school team. ( none of the kids went to Catholic school) only 1 or 2 kids even made the top 50. On my sons team, there were many kids who made the top 50 but didn't make the team. I know its subjective and its hard to judge with limited time on the field. But its definitely Political!!!!

What happens is they put out the offers for the teams and some kids do not take the offer because of cost. They then fill, NYC and Catholic, with Nassau and Suffolk kids. My son is a Fogo and is not 1 of the 2 best in Suffolk, so he was asked to play with the NYC team. It was a great experience. Its not just the lax exposure, but the entire weekend away from us parents and just with the boys. They need to fill the Catholic and City teams, the directors reached out to people they know would go or could get kids to go. Next year maybe you make it known that you would be willing to play.

This year it is at Albany, not Binghamton... Should be fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First of all i have had a kid do all of these tryouts and yes UA is very political but if you do make the top 50 game the filed is loaded with colleges but to that point the college coaches no it is political as well . As for showcases the best one out there is Maverick by far , if you can not get into that do yourself a favor and go to a prospect camp those camps are where coaches can talk with your son and get to know him that is the best money spent . Understand there is politics in everything your son just have to rise above it all ..

Do yourselves a favor and register for the LI Showcase run by the Nassau/Suffolk County Coaches. Its half the price with just as many college coaches

The Li Showcase is just as Political!!! Its a great experience (my son had a great time) the price is great compared to the others but is it very political. One of the younger teams last year was run by a PAL coach who took his son and his friends kids. They went as the Catholic school team. ( none of the kids went to Catholic school) only 1 or 2 kids even made the top 50. On my sons team, there were many kids who made the top 50 but didn't make the team. I know its subjective and its hard to judge with limited time on the field. But its definitely Political!!!!

What happens is they put out the offers for the teams and some kids do not take the offer because of cost. They then fill, NYC and Catholic, with Nassau and Suffolk kids. My son is a Fogo and is not 1 of the 2 best in Suffolk, so he was asked to play with the NYC team. It was a great experience. Its not just the lax exposure, but the entire weekend away from us parents and just with the boys. They need to fill the Catholic and City teams, the directors reached out to people they know would go or could get kids to go. Next year maybe you make it known that you would be willing to play.

This year it is at Albany, not Binghamton... Should be fun.

There is always going to be politics involved in these selection teams. Always has been always will. I think I biggest complaint is that kids getting taken who never even tried out. I understand some kids make it and can’t commit due to various reason. They should then take the next best kid or have a wait list. It cheapens the event when kids that don’t make the top 50 or kids who never tried out are put on a team.

There are two other problems with UA:

1. The tryouts are the last before the event. Other regions pick their teams many weeks in advance and then have a chance to actually meet each other and practice before the event. The UA LI team practice once the day before.

2. Many top players make the team and then bail. If every kid who made the team actually showed up and played they would’ve been fine. That is selfish behavior and poor parenting. Then you have the others who leave early. 2020 team was down players all weekend. I agree it was an embarrassment, but not for the reasons being suggested. Kids on team committee to ND, Yale, Navy, Denver, Michigan, BU and others.....so save the narrative about how there were only weak players there.

.....forgot UVA, Princeton and Dartmouth. Other kids committed to Duke and UNC made the team, but never showed.

Lets forget about UA ... how do you think West Islip will do dropping down to Div 2 ... Will they dominate ????

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets forget about UA ... how do you think West Islip will do dropping down to Div 2 ... Will they dominate ????

WI hasn't dominated in Div 1 for a long time what makes you think they will be anything but above average in Div 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

If your son is Is a 2021 and Committed to a school he wants to attend, then don’t waste your time and money on this event. It used to be about repoing your Region. It’s not about that anymore. If your uncommitted and feel you can have a good showing in front of lost of coaches than go.

Winning at UA is all well and good, but getting on the team and having the chance to play at that event is what matters most. Denigrate it all you want, but every major D1 program is there and many have all their guys there. Even if some players opt out as rising seniors, most top prospects played UA at some point in their high school career. It is still an excellent way to be seen. Just look at how many kids commit soon after UA....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets forget about UA ... how do you think West Islip will do dropping down to Div 2 ... Will they dominate ????

WI hasn't dominated in Div 1 for a long time what makes you think they will be anything but above average in Div 2

Considering the top 2 teams in D2 could compete with WM no problem, I doubt WI has a shot of anything above 3rd place

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Give it a rest already. This was one tournament, six months ago. Or should we thank you for defending the honor of Long Island lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets forget about UA ... how do you think West Islip will do dropping down to Div 2 ... Will they dominate ????

WI hasn't dominated in Div 1 for a long time what makes you think they will be anything but above average in Div 2

Considering the top 2 teams in D2 could compete with WM no problem, I doubt WI has a shot of anything above 3rd place

I do not believe any of the posts that hype up West Islip are from West Slip parents or fans. Most likely from people trying to stir the pot. As for the top 2 teams in D2, pretty sure they would handle WM this year. WI has been decent but not great since about 2011. It's a toss up in D2 but I do not think WI will be in the mix. Most likely a new champ in D1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Too bad your "top 10 on LI" son was afraid to compete. Good luck with that attitude on the next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Too bad your "top 10 on LI" son was afraid to compete. Good luck with that attitude on the next level.

I don't think the players are afraid to compete, it is the parents of the players. There are parents out there who can not take it when other players are recognized over their son. I have listened to some of them many times complain about other players receiving more recognition than their son, I have also listened to the parents complain about how tryouts are fixed, rigged, political act... and that is why they do not have their son tryout.

These parents think that their son is the best and it drives them crazy when other players receive more accolades and or recognition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Several top players traveled to other regions to compete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line, the strongest players were not there to represent the region. Was the face off guy even ranked in the top 10 on LI??
NO.

Several top players traveled to other regions to compete

Funny that the St Anthonys to SWR transfer was one of the players that traveled to another region to avoid playing for the LI and the LI Coach which also happens the be the current SWR coach How about that for a turn of events and some kharma. truth is probably would not of made the LI team. Our son was on the LI team and it was a complete embarrassment hopefully it improves this year

Most of that UA team would not have made the team if the kids who were supposed to try out did . UA messed up tryouts running them with the Team USA tryouts . That is the reason why LI had such a terrible team . Still the UA tryouts are the best spot to get looked at by all high end coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets forget about UA ... how do you think West Islip will do dropping down to Div 2 ... Will they dominate ????

You realize the divisions are separated by school enrollment size. You make it sound like Div 2 is a "B" level type division. There are a numerous number od Div 2 schools that would tear up Div 1 programs. With that said, I agree with the previous comment that West Islip hasn't dominated Div 1 in years and this year will be no different in Div 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of that UA team would not have made the team if the kids who were supposed to try out did . UA messed up tryouts running them with the Team USA tryouts . That is the reason why LI had such a terrible team . Still the UA tryouts are the best spot to get looked at by all high end coaches

This is so weak! Because your little super star didn’t try out, all those kids who did are automatically inferior? Very easy to come in here and anonymously post about kids who (unlike you and your kid) had the stones to put themselves out there and compete. Where does you assessment come from anyway? The #1 2020 recruit made the team as did the #4. And there were numerous other top 10 D 1 commits on the team. Your after-the-fact bullying of them is just so pathetic....When you don’t show up you sort of forfeit your right to boast about how you would’ve kicked everyone’s butt if you had. Or don’t you get that? Such a lost...

You are under estimating WI , they will be very competitive

West Islip, Of course they will be competitive. Questioning whether they will be dominant. They won't. They will be strongly in the mix in D2 just as they were in D1. Good program, glory years in the rear view mirror though.

SWR is the best team in Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are under estimating WI , they will be very competitive

No one said that they wouldn't be competitive. Most teams are in D2. It's that ridiculous word "dominate" that I think people are reacting to. Only applies to maybe a few teams in that division. And WI isn't one of them.

WI Is a solid team, however not solid enough to be talking about them every single post. They had a great team a long time ago. It seems like someone can’t move on from that. Yes they were the best team 10,15 years ago. Yes they beat Chaminade a few times back then. Yes they won several state championships back then. Ok we got it. It’s now 2020, move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are under estimating WI , they will be very competitive

No one said that they wouldn't be competitive. Most teams are in D2. It's that ridiculous word "dominate" that I think people are reacting to. Only applies to maybe a few teams in that division. And WI isn't one of them.

over the past few years there have been many posts "hyping" West Islip. I do not believe any of them were from WI parents.... most likely Pot Stirring Trolls trying to start trouble. West Islip will be competitive but just like in Class A, they will not be there in the end.

Good luck to All.

What are the predictions for the Nassau teams????

Massapequa-1, GC/ Manhasset-2, CSH-4

Harborfields the County Champ in B, 2018 and 2019. It runs through them again, very solid team. Multiple D1 commits. Not dominate, but gritty kids with plenty of talent. Very strong showing in summer and fall again.

Manhasset, CSH, Syosset, Massapequa, GC, Farmingdale, Port.

Massapequa is definitely not as strong this year as last. Ditto for GC.

In Nassau I think Manhasset, CSH, Wantagh, Farmingdale, and Port have the strongest returning teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Nassau I think Manhasset, CSH, Wantagh, Farmingdale, and Port have the strongest returning teams.

Massapequa will still win A. They have some very talented kids and excellent coaching. Syosset will also compete but will be 2 or 3 depending on Farmingdale plays. Port will finish 4th. Appears that is their perennial finishes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset, CSH, Syosset, Massapequa, GC, Farmingdale, Port.

Massapequa is definitely not as strong this year as last. Ditto for GC.

Massapequa graduated a large part of last years state championship team, but there is a lot of talent remaining. I'd say Pequa is still the favorite to win A

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Not sure where you're getting this, they do in fact have a FOGO as good as most, just not the dominant kid from last year. Not such a big problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Not sure where you're getting this, they do in fact have a FOGO as good as most, just not the dominant kid from last year. Not such a big problem.

good as most is ok for a solid well balanced team, but a dominant FOGO can turn the tide of almost any game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Not sure where you're getting this, they do in fact have a FOGO as good as most, just not the dominant kid from last year. Not such a big problem.

good as most is ok for a solid well balanced team, but a dominant FOGO can turn the tide of almost any game

Well, when we beat you.... I'll be sure to let you know.

They have a few, mediocre at best, players attempting to be FOGOs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Not sure where you're getting this, they do in fact have a FOGO as good as most, just not the dominant kid from last year. Not such a big problem.

good as most is ok for a solid well balanced team, but a dominant FOGO can turn the tide of almost any game

Well, when we beat you.... I'll be sure to let you know.

Nassau A will be a battle between the top 4. Each team has both strong and weak spots.

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa has no FOGO. Big problem

Not sure where you're getting this, they do in fact have a FOGO as good as most, just not the dominant kid from last year. Not such a big problem.

good as most is ok for a solid well balanced team, but a dominant FOGO can turn the tide of almost any game

Well, when we beat you.... I'll be sure to let you know.

Nassau A will be a battle between the top 4. Each team has both strong and weak spots.

It will hardly be a battle. Massapequa will beat everyone in A, I'm guessing pretty easily. Farmingdale lost a slew of excellent players, Syosset lost some special seniors and Port doesn't have enough talent outside a few kids. Anyone else going to compete? Baldwin??

How about East Meadow?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about East Meadow?

Nobody lost more top players than Pequa. Only two starters returning & the rest of the team is inexperienced & untested. Farmingdale should win the ' A ' in Nassau.

Massapequa will not dominate as they have the last few years. A Division will be a toss up between (alphabetically) Farmingdale, Port, Massapequa and Syosset. Big drop off after that. The best public school doesn't reside in class A this year (again). As for wolf hill road banter, save that for your two team league of you and that school on Jericho Turnpike in Mineola.

Wolf Hill Rd Varsity coach is a joke.

WEST ISLIP READY TO EAT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP READY TO EAT

Yawn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wolf Hill Rd Varsity coach is a joke.

Could this comment be from an Ex Disgruntle parent? SWR?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wolf Hill Rd Varsity coach is a joke.

Could this comment be from an Ex Disgruntle parent? SWR?

Disgruntled somebody from travel likely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP READY TO EAT

Says the West Islip parent...LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEST ISLIP READY TO EAT

Yawn

Doubtful that the post was written by a WI parent.

Class A is up for grabs this year with or without West Islip. Ward Melville has to be the favorite but not a lock. Should be an interesting year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about East Meadow?

Nobody lost more top players than Pequa. Only two starters returning & the rest of the team is inexperienced & untested. Farmingdale should win the ' A ' in Nassau.

Farmingdale was not competitive last year. What changed? Pequa underclassmen got plenty of experience, and the coaching isn't close. Massapequa will win it all easily. EASILY

I think Port has some really nice players that will surprise many people. Not a Port parent. Syo good but not enough. FDale and Pequa will fight it out in the end. My team will unfortunately lose to all of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about East Meadow?

East Meadow has a good goalie

Only 4 Long Island teams ranked in the preseason Top 25.... Down year for The Island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only 4 Long Island teams ranked in the preseason Top 25.... Down year for The Island?

We should see more drop in as the season gets going. It’s early.

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

Mt. Sinai will be ranked by year end, as will CSH. Inside Lacrosse is pretty decent with their rankings. US lacrosse practically just submitted last years final as this year's preseason... way off... and no respect to Jersey by US Lax...

The only way Massapequa can be a top tier team is if they have some stud '21's and 22's. The 20's are not an elite group-good but not elite-trying not to disparage, just being real. Hughie don't play for pequa when school is in session...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

And the public's don't have the luxury of a 13th grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the public's don't have the luxury of a 13th grade

its not 13th grade it is 8th grade twice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only way Massapequa can be a top tier team is if they have some stud '21's and 22's. The 20's are not an elite group-good but not elite-trying not to disparage, just being real. Hughie don't play for pequa when school is in session...

Still good enough to beat everyone in A handily.

13th grade refers to a Post Graduate year that many of the New England privates have, whether the kids did repeat 8th or 9th grade or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Lucky if they go 8-8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Lucky if they go 8-8

Been hearing that for the last three years - NOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Lucky if they go 8-8

Been hearing that for the last three years - NOT

I guess those all those recent expulsions will not affect the team at all?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai will be ranked by year end, as will CSH. Inside Lacrosse is pretty decent with their rankings. US lacrosse practically just submitted last years final as this year's preseason... way off... and no respect to Jersey by US Lax...

Agreed Mt Sinai win vs. Yaphank will catapult them into the top 10..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Lucky if they go 8-8

Been hearing that for the last three years - NOT

I guess those all those recent expulsions will not affect the team at all?

It all starts from the head coach all the way down the line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai will be ranked by year end, as will CSH. Inside Lacrosse is pretty decent with their rankings. US lacrosse practically just submitted last years final as this year's preseason... way off... and no respect to Jersey by US Lax...

Agreed Mt Sinai win vs. Yaphank will catapult them into the top 10..

Yaphank? Sarcasm?

"Agreed Mt Sinai win vs. Yaphank will catapult them into the top 10.."

Yaphank game aside, you don't think that team is worthy of the conversation in Suffolk and beyond? Interesting. Wondering what you know about the team that I don't. I thought they were one of Suffolk's strongest teams last year, got upset in the playoffs and bring back a lot? Save the sarcasm for your cumare and share some insight. Thanks Chewblockhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Agreed Mt Sinai win vs. Yaphank will catapult them into the top 10.."

Yaphank game aside, you don't think that team is worthy of the conversation in Suffolk and beyond? Interesting. Wondering what you know about the team that I don't. I thought they were one of Suffolk's strongest teams last year, got upset in the playoffs and bring back a lot? Save the sarcasm for your cumare and share some insight. Thanks Chewblockhead.

They don't even play Yaphank but need to watch out for East Hampton / Montauk..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it really matter. The best team in the country this year resides at Wolf Hill Road.

Lucky if they go 8-8

Been hearing that for the last three years - NOT

I guess those all those recent expulsions will not affect the team at all?

Nope.

good morning. anyone know of a store on the island (preferably nassau) that has a decent stock on goalie shorts/cups etc? and anyone's kid have the nutty buddy cup? if so any feedback? thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

good morning. anyone know of a store on the island (preferably nassau) that has a decent stock on goalie shorts/cups etc? and anyone's kid have the nutty buddy cup? if so any feedback? thanks

Its kinda uncomfortable, get a warrior hammerhead box or Bauer goalie cup

Nutty buddy is definitely the way to go. More comfortable with jock strap than shorts.

Your kid is a goalie in high school and is still wearing that stuff? All my son wore was the regular cup pants shorts the field players wore and by 9th grade doesn’t wear a Any cup pants, sorry your kid needs to man up!

Syosset gonna run the table this year... and will be LIC!!

Go Syosset! Love the confidence. Remember to be gracious in defeat should it occur. Looking for MacArthur to pull an upset or two this season.

To the bravado cup guy...great advice. If your son were really that manly he'd just shed the cup entirely and freeball. Get him a barbwire tattoo on his arm, grow some facial scruff like you, jack up the pick up truck neither you nor he can really afford that you are fully leveraged on and have him man up. Walk the walk south shore tough guy! And when is my garbage getting picked up? Late today in sunny Brookville.

SO will WI .... LETS EAT !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Syosset! Love the confidence. Remember to be gracious in defeat should it occur. Looking for MacArthur to pull an upset or two this season.

To the bravado cup guy...great advice. If your son were really that manly he'd just shed the cup entirely and freeball. Get him a barbwire tattoo on his arm, grow some facial scruff like you, jack up the pick up truck neither you nor he can really afford that you are fully leveraged on and have him man up. Walk the walk south shore tough guy! And when is my garbage getting picked up? Late today in sunny Brookville.

Syosset? Worst coached team on LI. Never won a NY State Championship ever - despite having many talented Teams / players over the years. Syo kids are all soft these days - told they are great by their parents. So funny to see the dads on the sidelines. Get a life Bro!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your kid is a goalie in high school and is still wearing that stuff? All my son wore was the regular cup pants shorts the field players wore and by 9th grade doesn’t wear a Any cup pants, sorry your kid needs to man up!

winner for densest soundbite of the day goes to Mr Anonymous who puts bravado ahead of having kids in the future....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your kid is a goalie in high school and is still wearing that stuff? All my son wore was the regular cup pants shorts the field players wore and by 9th grade doesn’t wear a Any cup pants, sorry your kid needs to man up!

What an stunad. Guess you don't want grandchildren. Goalies should wear as much protection in that area that they can handle without affecting their movement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go Syosset! Love the confidence. Remember to be gracious in defeat should it occur. Looking for MacArthur to pull an upset or two this season.

To the bravado cup guy...great advice. If your son were really that manly he'd just shed the cup entirely and freeball. Get him a barbwire tattoo on his arm, grow some facial scruff like you, jack up the pick up truck neither you nor he can really afford that you are fully leveraged on and have him man up. Walk the walk south shore tough guy! And when is my garbage getting picked up? Late today in sunny Brookville.

Syosset? Worst coached team on LI. Never won a NY State Championship ever - despite having many talented Teams / players over the years. Syo kids are all soft these days - told they are great by their parents. So funny to see the dads on the sidelines. Get a life Bro!

What ever happened to the Igloo connection with the Syosset coaching staff?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the public's don't have the luxury of a 13th grade

its not 13th grade it is 8th grade twice

Is this common on LI?

Repeating of 9th grade has become more common on LI when kids move from public to the athletic factory catholic schools. Not pervasive, but certainly more common. St. A's lax has a number of such kids throughout its program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Repeating of 9th grade has become more common on LI when kids move from public to the athletic factory catholic schools. Not pervasive, but certainly more common. St. A's lax has a number of such kids throughout its program.

Seems like it's common everywhere. Was just watching Dyson Williams score a bunch for Duke. He's their 20 year old freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the public's don't have the luxury of a 13th grade

its not 13th grade it is 8th grade twice

Is this common on LI?

Common? No....but still more people do it than you would think and may becoming more popular.

If this persion really is from WI.... What a beep. From a WI parent.. Sounds like the same guy from last year talking about letting the horses out of the stable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Repeating of 9th grade has become more common on LI when kids move from public to the athletic factory catholic schools. Not pervasive, but certainly more common. St. A's lax has a number of such kids throughout its program.

Seems like it's common everywhere. Was just watching Dyson Williams score a bunch for Duke. He's their 20 year old freshman.

hes from Hill Academy, most canadians are older when they come down to the states for college. but if you look

regular College freshamn 18
Holdback Freshman 19
holdback and postgrad year 20..

it happens more than you think..

There was an entirely new staff last season, with the exception of the head coach.

Why is SS seeded ahead of GC?

If Southside is seeded ahead of GC I would assume because the coaches of the league all agree that SouthSide has better players this year or at least a better team. Might be a stretch, but if ever there was a year for GC to be down a little, this is the year. That being said they will still run through most of their Nassau schedule.

Garden City is way down this year. Their 2020 class is really thin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is SS seeded ahead of GC?

GC coaches are smart enough to seed the team lower and use as motivation. Nothing new there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is SS seeded ahead of GC?

GC coaches are smart enough to seed the team lower and use as motivation. Nothing new there.

So the GC coaches chose to be seeded lower this year? It was their choice? C'mon man, it's ok to have a "down" year. You're town will survive.

IL Northeast Top 10

1 - St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 - Deerfield (Mass.)
3 - Chaminade (N.Y.)
4 - Salisbury (Conn.)
5 - Brunswick (Conn.)
6 - Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
7 - Manhasset (N.Y.)
8 - Darien (Conn.)
9 - Victor (N.Y.)
10 - Garden City (N.Y.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Northeast Top 10

1 - St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 - Deerfield (Mass.)
3 - Chaminade (N.Y.)
4 - Salisbury (Conn.)
5 - Brunswick (Conn.)
6 - Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
7 - Manhasset (N.Y.)
8 - Darien (Conn.)
9 - Victor (N.Y.)
10 - Garden City (N.Y.)

Receiving Votes: Massapequa, Smithtown West, Ward Melville, Mt. Sinai, Jamesville DeWitt, Longmeadow, Lincoln Sudbury, Farmingdale, Harborfields

It may be the first time in the last 40 yrs. GC is not seeded 1 or 2. They probably should be the two. They still have more stud players (4) thans SS (2) and are deeper. I'll wager dinner at the nice steakhouse in RVC that GC beats SS as many times as they face them this season... that being said, NO WAY GC is top ten in the east. That is a joke. Ditto for Harborfields and Farmingdale even receiving votes...

Agreed, there is no way GC lobbied for the 3d seed. Take a deep breath GC dad, likely '22 father...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Northeast Top 10

1 - St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 - Deerfield (Mass.)
3 - Chaminade (N.Y.)
4 - Salisbury (Conn.)
5 - Brunswick (Conn.)
6 - Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
7 - Manhasset (N.Y.)
8 - Darien (Conn.)
9 - Victor (N.Y.)
10 - Garden City (N.Y.)

Receiving Votes: Massapequa, Smithtown West, Ward Melville, Mt. Sinai, Jamesville DeWitt, Longmeadow, Lincoln Sudbury, Farmingdale, Harborfields

IMHO Mt. Sinai is the only one out of that group that has a shot a cracking the Top 10 this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Northeast Top 10

1 - St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 - Deerfield (Mass.)
3 - Chaminade (N.Y.)
4 - Salisbury (Conn.)
5 - Brunswick (Conn.)
6 - Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
7 - Manhasset (N.Y.)
8 - Darien (Conn.)
9 - Victor (N.Y.)
10 - Garden City (N.Y.)

Receiving Votes: Massapequa, Smithtown West, Ward Melville, Mt. Sinai, Jamesville DeWitt, Longmeadow, Lincoln Sudbury, Farmingdale, Harborfields

IMHO Mt. Sinai is the only one out of that group that has a shot a cracking the Top 10 this year.

Wait, what about WI? I hear they're going to DOMINATE this year

I would be surprised if CSH is not in the mix. They graduated one starter from last year's team. That's why they play the games. Will check back in May

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be the first time in the last 40 yrs. GC is not seeded 1 or 2. They probably should be the two. They still have more stud players (4) thans SS (2) and are deeper. I'll wager dinner at the nice steakhouse in RVC that GC beats SS as many times as they face them this season... that being said, NO WAY GC is top ten in the east. That is a joke. Ditto for Harborfields and Farmingdale even receiving votes...

County championship will be SS v Manhasset. GC will go home early this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL Northeast Top 10

1 - St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2 - Deerfield (Mass.)
3 - Chaminade (N.Y.)
4 - Salisbury (Conn.)
5 - Brunswick (Conn.)
6 - Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
7 - Manhasset (N.Y.)
8 - Darien (Conn.)
9 - Victor (N.Y.)
10 - Garden City (N.Y.)

Receiving Votes: Massapequa, Smithtown West, Ward Melville, Mt. Sinai, Jamesville DeWitt, Longmeadow, Lincoln Sudbury, Farmingdale, Harborfields

IMHO Mt. Sinai is the only one out of that group that has a shot a cracking the Top 10 this year.

Wait, what about WI? I hear they're going to DOMINATE this year

Yawn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

So I'm woundering how many State Championships dose the power house Massapequa have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I'm woundering how many State Championships dose the power house Massapequa have.

2 in the last 5 years.....is that good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

I see 5 public, possibly a six in Torrey Pines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport.

Where is Dematha?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be the first time in the last 40 yrs. GC is not seeded 1 or 2. They probably should be the two. They still have more stud players (4) thans SS (2) and are deeper. I'll wager dinner at the nice steakhouse in RVC that GC beats SS as many times as they face them this season... that being said, NO WAY GC is top ten in the east. That is a joke. Ditto for Harborfields and Farmingdale even receiving votes...

Dopey take on GC. They are deep with kids who have not been recruited.....GC is not top 25 in the region this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be the first time in the last 40 yrs. GC is not seeded 1 or 2. They probably should be the two. They still have more stud players (4) thans SS (2) and are deeper. I'll wager dinner at the nice steakhouse in RVC that GC beats SS as many times as they face them this season... that being said, NO WAY GC is top ten in the east. That is a joke. Ditto for Harborfields and Farmingdale even receiving votes...

Dopey take on GC. They are deep with kids who have not been recruited.....GC is not top 25 in the region this year.

Who cares about nonsensical "pre-season rankings". Let's reconvene at the end of the season and see who has won a County/LI/State championship. Pre-Season Rankings are ridiculous, Massapequa wasn't even ranked in last years pre-season, yet won an NYS championship, I would rather have that, you can keep your dopey pre-season rank.

Right, deep with average high school players, that is why it is a down year by GC standards. What exactly was dopey or off the mark about the post regarding "it may be the first time..."

Go Hall! Good Luck to everyone else!

would love to see someone do a TOP 25 PUBLIC ONLY and a TOP 25 PRIVATE ONLY it truly is apples and oranges ..... But yet Set and GC can play with them all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right, deep with average high school players, that is why it is a down year by GC standards. What exactly was dopey or off the mark about the post regarding "it may be the first time..."

Four GC "studs" was sort of dopey.....

It is sad and pathetic that some of these kids are 19 and 20 seniors. Just a sad fact. I enjoy reading these going nowhere stories. Let them play the sport. Few of them will benefit society. This sport is a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is sad and pathetic that some of these kids are 19 and 20 seniors. Just a sad fact. I enjoy reading these going nowhere stories. Let them play the sport. Few of them will benefit society. This sport is a joke.

Do you think this is the only sport doing this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is sad and pathetic that some of these kids are 19 and 20 seniors. Just a sad fact. I enjoy reading these going nowhere stories. Let them play the sport. Few of them will benefit society. This sport is a joke.

Do you think this is the only sport doing this?

I think St.A's has a senior in this category. I guess people do what's best for their family. I never agreed with the reasoning behind it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Right, deep with average high school players, that is why it is a down year by GC standards. What exactly was dopey or off the mark about the post regarding "it may be the first time..."

Four GC "studs" was sort of dopey....."

Ok, sorry. I was trying not to totally disparage GC and compliment where due. In my view they have four very strong players. 1D, 2M and 1 A/M lefty, depending on where they use him.

Good luck

No dopier then referring to kids as a unfixed makes horse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Right, deep with average high school players, that is why it is a down year by GC standards. What exactly was dopey or off the mark about the post regarding "it may be the first time..."

Four GC "studs" was sort of dopey....."

Ok, sorry. I was trying not to totally disparage GC and compliment where due. In my view they have four very strong players. 1D, 2M and 1 A/M lefty, depending on where they use him.

Good luck

Let me put it this way......If the GC v Manhasset goal differential was 6.....I would be taking the over.

You’re all pathetic insects. Bickering over trivial problems. Make yourselves useful and actually do something instead of sitting behind your computer screens and save the planet. Gaia is dying and you pathetic apes only care about is sports. Look at the state of the world, the planet is suffering because you are choosing to do nothing.
I am sure some pathetic parent is gonna say something to this. Your ancestors didn’t sacrifice their lives so you could vicariously watch the world burn from a monitor. It’s pathetic how you apes only care for are materialistic wants and foolish desire of violent sports.
The choice should be to abolish all sports and move toward replenishing the planet and take care of it. Gaia gave you life, why would you treat your mother like this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all pathetic insects. Bickering over trivial problems. Make yourselves useful and actually do something instead of sitting behind your computer screens and save the planet. Gaia is dying and you pathetic apes only care about is sports. Look at the state of the world, the planet is suffering because you are choosing to do nothing.
I am sure some pathetic parent is gonna say something to this. Your ancestors didn’t sacrifice their lives so you could vicariously watch the world burn from a monitor. It’s pathetic how you apes only care for are materialistic wants and foolish desire of violent sports.
The choice should be to abolish all sports and move toward replenishing the planet and take care of it. Gaia gave you life, why would you treat your mother like this

I lost you there. Are we pathetic insects or apes? I believe apes eat insects...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all pathetic insects. Bickering over trivial problems. Make yourselves useful and actually do something instead of sitting behind your computer screens and save the planet. Gaia is dying and you pathetic apes only care about is sports. Look at the state of the world, the planet is suffering because you are choosing to do nothing.
I am sure some pathetic parent is gonna say something to this. Your ancestors didn’t sacrifice their lives so you could vicariously watch the world burn from a monitor. It’s pathetic how you apes only care for are materialistic wants and foolish desire of violent sports.
The choice should be to abolish all sports and move toward replenishing the planet and take care of it. Gaia gave you life, why would you treat your mother like this

Come on Mom. Stop typing and go support Bernie. He's dying for votes.

I didn’t know AOC was a lacrosse fan
Feel the Bern

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all pathetic insects. Bickering over trivial problems. Make yourselves useful and actually do something instead of sitting behind your computer screens and save the planet. Gaia is dying and you pathetic apes only care about is sports. Look at the state of the world, the planet is suffering because you are choosing to do nothing.
I am sure some pathetic parent is gonna say something to this. Your ancestors didn’t sacrifice their lives so you could vicariously watch the world burn from a monitor. It’s pathetic how you apes only care for are materialistic wants and foolish desire of violent sports.
The choice should be to abolish all sports and move toward replenishing the planet and take care of it. Gaia gave you life, why would you treat your mother like this

Take away........We apes & insects must thoroughly dispose of our red solo cups at all tourneys this season. Don't want to [ChillLaxin] off Gaia. Lol

NESCAC shut down all spring sports this morning. Fingers crossed that it doesn't get to the High school level with school closures.

It’s all notIntelligent. Our school closed today because a staff member was in close proximity to another person that attended a function over the weekend where there was another person who was told might have the virus. Or in other words- my sisters third cousins boyfriends nephew knows someone who’s third cousin sneezed.

I take offense at being called a pathetic insect. I fought, lobbied, tweeted and posted, wore tee shirts and hats to protest the killing of Harambe. I am aware of what is going on on our planet and other animals. Not really a Bernie guy though. Life is not free. San Demas HS Football RULES! GO CSH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You’re all pathetic insects. Bickering over trivial problems. Make yourselves useful and actually do something instead of sitting behind your computer screens and save the planet. Gaia is dying and you pathetic apes only care about is sports. Look at the state of the world, the planet is suffering because you are choosing to do nothing.
I am sure some pathetic parent is gonna say something to this. Your ancestors didn’t sacrifice their lives so you could vicariously watch the world burn from a monitor. It’s pathetic how you apes only care for are materialistic wants and foolish desire of violent sports.
The choice should be to abolish all sports and move toward replenishing the planet and take care of it. Gaia gave you life, why would you treat your mother like this

wow..very deep insight. Now quit yappin and pass that joint you're smoking...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Dematha?

In Hyattsville.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn’t know AOC was a lacrosse fan
Feel the Bern

Contrary to popular belief, AOC is from Yorktown, she left the Bronx as a kid, Yorktown has a very good lacrosse program. I would guess AOC is friends with quite a few Lax Bros!!

LI High School lax season canceled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI High School lax season canceled.

Section XI says scrimmages & games are SUSPENDED until 4/3. Take it easy with the drama

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI High School lax season canceled.

heard delayed to 4/3

"LI High School lax season canceled."

Fake news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LI High School lax season canceled.

If that's the case then I claim Roslyn HS is the winner of the LI championship.

Gaia is the ancestral mother of all life: the primal Mother Earth goddess. She is the mother of Uranus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.)
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport.

Got it. Your son couldnt compete with same age players so you had him play down since he was 10. Many sports have parents like you that want an advantage others dont get or have. Generally other sports top teams are not loaded with them.
Lacrosse has the majority of better teams loaded with over age players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.) I
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport.

Got it. Your son couldnt compete with same age players so you had him play down since he was 10. Many sports have parents like you that want an advantage others dont get or have. Generally other sports top teams are not loaded with them.
Lacrosse has the majority of better teams loaded with over age players.

Nope. My son was never held back. He trained and worked hard and is fortunate to be committed to a current Top 10 program. If a parent wants to hold their kids back, so be it. Get over it.

What do we think of the season given current events?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)
4. Deerfield (Mass.) I
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport.

Got it. Your son couldnt compete with same age players so you had him play down since he was 10. Many sports have parents like you that want an advantage others dont get or have. Generally other sports top teams are not loaded with them.
Lacrosse has the majority of better teams loaded with over age players.

Nope. My son was never held back. He trained and worked hard and is fortunate to be committed to a current Top 10 program. If a parent wants to hold their kids back, so be it. Get over it.

Hilarious ! Yea, your son wasnt held back ! And on top of that is going to a top 10 program ! LOL.. What next, He is Full Ride ? Funny stuff !

My sons school had a really bad Lax program, does he have to play school ball the get recruited for college?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)o
4. Deerfield (Mass.) I
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport.

Nope. My son was never held back. He trained and worked hard and is fortunate to be committed to a current Top 10 program. If a parent wants to hold their kids back, so be it. Get over it.

Hilarious ! Yea, your son wasnt held back ! And on top of that is going to a top 10 program ! LOL.. What next, He is Full Ride ? Funny stuff !

Jealous?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My sons school had a really bad Lax program, does he have to play school ball the get recruited for college?

What travel team is he on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)o
4. Deerfield (Mass.) I
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport

Nope. My son was never held back. He trained and worked hard and is fortunate to be committed to a current Top 10 program. If a parent wants to hold their kids back, so be it. Get over it.

Hilarious ! Yea, your son wasnt held back ! And on top of that is going to a top 10 program ! LOL.. What next, He is Full Ride ? Funny stuff !

Jealous?

Of what?? A father who lives thru his heldback son and delusional rants of grandeur ? Still cant get over your Polk High playing days

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Haven't seen the list of 25. How many in that list are public schools?

I don't know all the schools to be able to tell you public vs private but here is the list. However it would appear the majority by quite a large margin is private. Top 9?
1. Calvert Hall (Md.)
2. St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
3. Culver (Ind.)o
4. Deerfield (Mass.) I
5. Chaminade (N.Y.)
6. Salisbury (Conn.)
7. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
8. Bullis (Md.)
9. Brunswick (Conn.)
10. Shoreham-Wading River (N.Y.)
11. Gonzaga (D.C.)
12. McDonogh (Md.)
13. Hill Academy (Ont.)
14. Seton Hall Prep (N.J.)
15. Delbarton (N.J.)
16. Loyola Blakefield (Md.)
17. Manhasset (N.Y.)
18. Darien (Conn.)
19. Boys' Latin (Md.)
20. Torrey Pines (Calif.)
21. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
22. Gilman (Md.)
23. Haverford (Pa.)
24. Ponte Vedra (Fla.)
25. Victor (N.Y.)

Amazing how many top 10 teams have college freshman playing for them. Looking at this list, it seems very difficult to crack the top 10-20 teams without college freshman on your team.

Stop your crying. They are not college freshman yet, just a year older in high school. If it bothers you so much and your kid is having a hard time running with them, pick another sport

Nope. My son was never held back. He trained and worked hard and is fortunate to be committed to a current Top 10 program. If a parent wants to hold their kids back, so be it. Get over it.

Hilarious ! Yea, your son wasnt held back ! And on top of that is going to a top 10 program ! LOL.. What next, He is Full Ride ? Funny stuff !

Of what?? A father who lives thru his heldback son and delusional rants of grandeur ? Still cant get over your Polk High playing days

No idea what your talking about? You’ve got issue.

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do we think of the season given current events?

IT. IS. OVER.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Hit the wall, stay in shape, pray for a shortened season, then pray there is a travel season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

He thanks his lucky stars that whatever happens this year he has three more years of high school lacrosse. He thanks God that he does not own a small business, restaurant or bar right now. He is grateful that he doesn’t sell cars or suits or wash dishes, drive a cab, work a register or do any of the myriad jobs that will be permanently lost even after this public health emergency is over. He can hope he has parents who will tell him that in the grand scheme of things his perceived tragedy of a lost season of high school lacrosse is beyond meaningless. And, most of all, he can give thanks for all the doctors, nurses and healthcare workers who are risking their lives and doing everything they can to take care of the sick and keep our system afloat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Ummm, come back next year and make varsity as a sophomore? Sorry to say I don't get your question...

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now? [/quote]

Post it on Facebook, make sure everyone knows how proud you are of him, keep working hard and come back next year.

Keep in mind your Varsity team must not be too deep if they're pulling up 8th and 9th graders (size alone makes this a nonstarter). No sense pulling them up and having them sit all season when they can be running with their peers on JV. Lacrosse is still a team sport and, regardless of who your superstar 9th grader suits up for, it still pays to be humble.

My son made varsity as a 9th grader as well. Unfortunately in my humble opinion and not to take away from the work my son puts in, its more a reflection of how poor the varsity lacrosse team is then how good our sons are. In a way I'm happy he wont have to go out there this year and get pounded by 12th graders with 40 pounds on him.

Pulling younger kids up to varsity does nothing but destroy school lax programs! Older kids get frustrated and quit and the program will crumble! It takes a few years but it will happen especially in smaller schools. And you will find a lot of these kids getting recruited for college that are going a few weeks or one semester and then quitting played up in school lax! Then you wonder why kids play travel and ditch school lax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Post it on Facebook, make sure everyone knows how proud you are of him, keep working hard and come back next year.

Keep in mind your Varsity team must not be too deep if they're pulling up 8th and 9th graders (size alone makes this a nonstarter). No sense pulling them up and having them sit all season when they can be running with their peers on JV. Lacrosse is still a team sport and, regardless of who your superstar 9th grader suits up for, it still pays to be humble.[/quote]

Dude, chill a bit. Guy just asked a question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Deals with it like the rest of the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Dude, chill a bit. Guy just asked a question.

What is the point of the question? Why is the 9th grader more important than the Jr. and Sr.'s?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Dude, chill a bit. Guy just asked a question.

What is the point of the question? Why is the 9th grader more important than the Jr. and Sr.'s?

The point of the question is not clear, I grant you that. Maybe he wanted to know if its a good idea or not to play up.
Where does it imply that that his son is more important?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Dude, chill a bit. Guy just asked a question.

What is the point of the question? Why is the 9th grader more important than the Jr. and Sr.'s?

The point of the question is not clear, I grant you that. Maybe he wanted to know if its a good idea or not to play up.
Where does it imply that that his son is more important?

Who knows with many of these parents. We live in one of the top lacrosse districts(one listed on this blog) on the island, if a 9th grader were to be moved up to varsity, the kid will be lights out, period. If the kid sees minimum field time, it's a waste, stay on JV. Just remember, if kids from JV are moved up the following year, good chance they play well together and may play over your kid who been on varsity from last year. Be careful of what you ask for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling younger kids up to varsity does nothing but destroy school lax programs! Older kids get frustrated and quit and the program will crumble! It takes a few years but it will happen especially in smaller schools. And you will find a lot of these kids getting recruited for college that are going a few weeks or one semester and then quitting played up in school lax! Then you wonder why kids play travel and ditch school lax!

Sounds like your kid might lose his starting position to the freshman. Happens..deal with it. Most likely season will be cancelled so you will be spared the embarrassment!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pulling younger kids up to varsity does nothing but destroy school lax programs! Older kids get frustrated and quit and the program will crumble! It takes a few years but it will happen especially in smaller schools. And you will find a lot of these kids getting recruited for college that are going a few weeks or one semester and then quitting played up in school lax! Then you wonder why kids play travel and ditch school lax!

Sounds like your kid might lose his starting position to the freshman. Happens..deal with it. Most likely season will be cancelled so you will be spared the embarrassment!

Agreed. My kid got pulled up in the 9th grade and saw little playing time but started as a soph & will be playing at a top 25 D1 school next year. There is no comparison in competition between JV & Varsity. If given the opportunity to play up then do it if you want to play at the next level. There's no JV in college

Wwwwrrrrroooonnnnggg numb nuts! My son had the option as a tenth grader this year and he didn't want to do it and I agreed. I'm not living through my kids like the rest of you stunands!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

Not true. While coaching matters and definitely need to play, if you are not at good events, there is no one there to see. So best club team possible should have coaching, playing time and exposure. Remember, original poster is on bad HS team, so exposure and play against top teams matter. A good club can help fill the void. If you have a good HS program, club team may not matter at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wwwwrrrrroooonnnnggg numb nuts! My son had the option as a tenth grader this year and he didn't want to do it and I agreed. I'm not living through my kids like the rest of you stunands!

Sounds like someone is upset that his kid wasn't up to the challenge, for whatever reason. Perhaps that reason is you. You're quick to go on the offensive with words like "numb nuts" and "stunad" if someone disagrees with you. My guess is that your son might have confidence issues. Nice job, bitter Helicopter Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

Not true. While coaching matters and definitely need to play, if you are not at good events, there is no one there to see. So best club team possible should have coaching, playing time and exposure. Remember, original poster is on bad HS team, so exposure and play against top teams matter. A good club can help fill the void. If you have a good HS program, club team may not matter at all.

You have to play HS if you want to play at the next level in college. Even if the program is not very good, the college coaches will want to know you are a team player and, in this case, a team leader since your son is likely one of the best players. Also, just having the stick in your hands 6 days a week is invaluable vs. 1 or 2 days a week for club practice which, at this age, is very unlikely. Be a big fish in a small pond and let your son gain some confidence as a leader off the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

Not true. While coaching matters and definitely need to play, if you are not at good events, there is no one there to see. So best club team possible should have coaching, playing time and exposure. Remember, original poster is on bad HS team, so exposure and play against top teams matter. A good club can help fill the void. If you have a good HS program, club team may not matter at all.

You have to play HS if you want to play at the next level in college. Even if the program is not very good, the college coaches will want to know you are a team player and, in this case, a team leader since your son is likely one of the best players. Also, just having the stick in your hands 6 days a week is invaluable vs. 1 or 2 days a week for club practice which, at this age, is very unlikely. Be a big fish in a small pond and let your son gain some confidence as a leader off the field.

There's plenty of great D3 schools and D2 schools to play lacrosse at. No need to try to get into DUKE to play lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

Not true. While coaching matters and definitely need to play, if you are not at good events, there is no one there to see. So best club team possible should have coaching, playing time and exposure. Remember, original poster is on bad HS team, so exposure and play against top teams matter. A good club can help fill the void. If you have a good HS program, club team may not matter at all.

You have to play HS if you want to play at the next level in college. Even if the program is not very good, the college coaches will want to know you are a team player and, in this case, a team leader since your son is likely one of the best players. Also, just having the stick in your hands 6 days a week is invaluable vs. 1 or 2 days a week for club practice which, at this age, is very unlikely. Be a big fish in a small pond and let your son gain some confidence as a leader off the field.

There's plenty of great D3 schools and D2 schools to play lacrosse at. No need to try to get into DUKE to play lacrosse.

What does that have to do with not playing in HS? D2 and D3 coaches will expect the same as D1 coaches and will want to know your son is a team player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, college coach will be interested in the high school team. But your main exposure will be club and prospect days. Need to be on best club team possible. Pick colleges that are good fit and go to prospect day. Also, good showcases, including Long Island Showcase, assuming on the Island, should be in mix.

Being on the best club team is a complete and utter falsehood. You need good coaching and to play.

Not true. While coaching matters and definitely need to play, if you are not at good events, there is no one there to see. So best club team possible should have coaching, playing time and exposure. Remember, original poster is on bad HS team, so exposure and play against top teams matter. A good club can help fill the void. If you have a good HS program, club team may not matter at all.

You have to play HS if you want to play at the next level in college. Even if the program is not very good, the college coaches will want to know you are a team player and, in this case, a team leader since your son is likely one of the best players. Also, just having the stick in your hands 6 days a week is invaluable vs. 1 or 2 days a week for club practice which, at this age, is very unlikely. Be a big fish in a small pond and let your son gain some confidence as a leader off the field.

There's plenty of great D3 schools and D2 schools to play lacrosse at. No need to try to get into DUKE to play lacrosse.

What does that have to do with not playing in HS? D2 and D3 coaches will expect the same as D1 coaches and will want to know your son is a team player.

Just adding on to the previous rely you made. Sorry you took it the wrong way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE IS OVER SAD TOO SAY FOR THIS YEAR

My son made varsity in 9th grade, what does he do now?

He thanks his lucky stars that whatever happens this year he has three more years of high school lacrosse. He thanks God that he does not own a small business, restaurant or bar right now. He is grateful that he doesn’t sell cars or suits or wash dishes, drive a cab, work a register or do any of the myriad jobs that will be permanently lost even after this public health emergency is over. He can hope he has parents who will tell him that in the grand scheme of things his perceived tragedy of a lost season of high school lacrosse is beyond meaningless. And, most of all, he can give thanks for all the doctors, nurses and healthcare workers who are risking their lives and doing everything they can to take care of the sick and keep our system afloat.

x 1000

Boohoo! This isn't Facebook, if you want to cry go someplace else this website is about lacrosse! Media hype and people going crazy, news flash this virus has been here since September and nobody new it! But you won't here that from fake media!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boohoo! This isn't Facebook, if you want to cry go someplace else this website is about lacrosse! Media hype and people going crazy, news flash this virus has been here since September and nobody new it! But you won't here that from fake media!

*knew *hear

Calm down and retake 9th grade English before you start indicting hardworking journalists.

If this will end the rest of the yr will clubs do the right thing and give part of tuition back to the paying families?

Time for the clubs to step!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If this will end the rest of the yr will clubs do the right thing and give part of tuition back to the paying families?

Time for the clubs to step!

It is supplementary income for most of the directors so they should but, to be sure, why don't you ask your director and report back to us?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If this will end the rest of the yr will clubs do the right thing and give part of tuition back to the paying families?

Time for the clubs to step!

It is supplementary income for most of the directors so they should but, to be sure, why don't you ask your director and report back to us?

Well, we are the clients, they should be reaching out to us!

Rather get a tooth pulled than talk to our director, unfortunately he is a donk.

I will give it some time, not total doom and gloom.......yet.

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If this will end the rest of the yr will clubs do the right thing and give part of tuition back to the paying families?

Time for the clubs to step!

It is supplementary income for most of the directors so they should but, to be sure, why don't you ask your director and report back to us?

Well, we are the clients, they should be reaching out to us!

Rather get a tooth pulled than talk to our director, unfortunately he is a donk.

I will give it some time, not total doom and gloom.......yet.

As an optimist, this is pointless. Summer season will be fine IMHO. The thing that should be considered perhaps by clubs is that some families incomes are likely different and work with them. Maybe stay locally in the Tristate vs going to Maryland, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

Be optimistic. The season is not over yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

Hmmmmm, I think my last Express payment is coming due!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As an optimist, this is pointless. Summer season will be fine IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be optimistic. The season is not over yet.

The Spring High School season will officially be over soon. Even if a few locations have the courage/foolishness to reopen school, they will almost certainly do so with restrictions to ensure they are seen as "doing something". That will include cancelling sports.

And for the Summer tournaments, if I had to bet I would say they will be few and far between. Even if clubs are willing to participate, it is going to be hard for the tournaments to obtain insurance coverage. No one will want to take the risk when the liability risk is unknown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

Hmmmmm, I think my last Express payment is coming due!!!!!

Don't pay it. CoachC is an A- Hole. He'd collect money at your wife's funeral.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

There is more than one way to skin a CAT...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Club directors won't give back anything. They need money just like everyone else. SOme may opt to apply some towards next years dues but don't expect refunds.

Hmmmmm, I think my last Express payment is coming due!!!!!

Call credit card company refund you back . Easy , not the whole season
Last payment .

Will be interesting with recruiting. For the juniors, this spring high school season is important but the summer club circuit is the last big push to make something happen. Lots of kids get picked up over the summer before senior year. Tough to get seen, though, if high school season goes away and summer events are also canceled or cut way back. Hopefully there will be some meaningful play this summer.

There is also the uncertainty of what the NCAA is going to do with additional eligibility for kids whose college seasons were canceled. Do they give just seniors another year? Do all players get another year? If so, what does that do to recruiting of current high school players? High school seniors are also likely to miss their season and then join college teams where the whole playing time dynamic could be seriously impacted by the granting of additional eligibility to older players. If it were just a canceled high school season it would be one thing; but this is challenging on many levels....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As an optimist, this is pointless. Summer season will be fine IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Be optimistic. The season is not over yet.

The Spring High School season will officially be over soon. Even if a few locations have the courage/foolishness to reopen school, they will almost certainly do so with restrictions to ensure they are seen as "doing something". That will include cancelling sports.

And for the Summer tournaments, if I had to bet I would say they will be few and far between. Even if clubs are willing to participate, it is going to be hard for the tournaments to obtain insurance coverage. No one will want to take the risk when the liability risk is unknown.

Yup, that is a big issue. On top of that, the venues need to approve use of their fields. Not likely. Even college prospect days will be an issue. Colleges are moving graduations to July, will they have dorm space/field space available for lax if they are needed for rescheduled events?

Who knows when HS graduations will happen, if they happen.

Very tough issues ahead.

It might be time to move sights to football season......I truly hope not.

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

Or "Us" as in the parent who just wants little Johnny to get the heck off of the Xbox.

ITS OVER ..... GO BACK to XBOX

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ITS OVER ..... GO BACK to XBOX

The "Fat Lady" sung!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

You will get over this, just like you have other challenges in life. Set the example for your Kid. (Us, Our son, Our family, My son) Take a look at the news, folks are dying. I forgot, typical lacrosse parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

You will get over this, just like you have other challenges in life. Set the example for your Kid. (Us, Our son, Our family, My son) Take a look at the news, folks are dying. I forgot, typical lacrosse parents.

Which example are you talking about? Are you saying people shouldn’t be hopeful? I think that’s a pretty good example to teach. Probably why my kids are all successful. The fact that people are dying is a different issue. Very sad, but not doesn’t mean we can’t hope it ends soon and things get back to normal. Maybe you’re depressed due to too much day drinking? Stop lashing out and try to be positive...just a thought

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but it would appear the states of Arizona, Alabama, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Virginia and Vermont are done for the school year. Like it or not this is for the best and all states should do the same and we would have a better chance of hitting the fields this summer or fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

You will get over this, just like you have other challenges in life. Set the example for your Kid. (Us, Our son, Our family, My son) Take a look at the news, folks are dying. I forgot, typical lacrosse parents.

Which example are you talking about? Are you saying people shouldn’t be hopeful? I think that’s a pretty good example to teach. Probably why my kids are all successful. The fact that people are dying is a different issue. Very sad, but not doesn’t mean we can’t hope it ends soon and things get back to normal. Maybe you’re depressed due to too much day drinking? Stop lashing out and try to be positive...just a thought

You must be a day drinker, Skippy, Just a fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

Headed to a big program . Wow Thanks for telling us ! I Hope he enjoys practice 6 days a week twice a day from September to June and game with 500 people in the stands . Also find time for class and have good grades . After those 4 years sorry to tell ya Lax Nut the sport that he played since 5 yrs old is finish with no pot of gold end of that rainbow !! True facts lax nut parents detest to admit and what school is he going too you want us to know a “Big Program”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

Headed to a big program . Wow Thanks for telling us ! I Hope he enjoys practice 6 days a week twice a day from September to June and game with 500 people in the stands . Also find time for class and have good grades . After those 4 years sorry to tell ya Lax Nut the sport that he played since 5 yrs old is finish with no pot of gold end of that rainbow !! True facts lax nut parents detest to admit and what school is he going too you want us to know a “Big Program”

End of the rainbow is a great job and great memories with amazing friends and mentors along the way....sorry your son wasn’t as fortunate, no reason to be bitter. Haven’t been on this site for a while. Now I remember why. A graveyard for those who failed and want to blame everyone and everything. So sorry things didn’t work out. Maybe spend less time here criticizing people and more time with your kid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

Headed to a big program . Wow Thanks for telling us ! I Hope he enjoys practice 6 days a week twice a day from September to June and game with 500 people in the stands . Also find time for class and have good grades . After those 4 years sorry to tell ya Lax Nut the sport that he played since 5 yrs old is finish with no pot of gold end of that rainbow !! True facts lax nut parents detest to admit and what school is he going too you want us to know a “Big Program”

End of the rainbow is a great job and great memories with amazing friends and mentors along the way....sorry your son wasn’t as fortunate, no reason to be bitter. Haven’t been on this site for a while. Now I remember why. A graveyard for those who failed and want to blame everyone and everything. So sorry things didn’t work out. Maybe spend less time here criticizing people and more time with your kid?

Why bash someone who son made it to a big program ... Congratulations to him ... for this person bashing it there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it is called a great education , friends he will have made for the rest of his life and fantastic memories that he will always be able to look back on and a work ethic that all companies are looking for . He will also have a massive network to tap into when he goes out to work so to the person who is jealous of your son who cares good for you and your son ... CONGRATULATIONS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why bash someone who son made it to a big program ... Congratulations to him ... for this person bashing it there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it is called a great education , friends he will have made for the rest of his life and fantastic memories that he will always be able to look back on and a work ethic that all companies are looking for . He will also have a massive network to tap into when he goes out to work so to the person who is jealous of your son who cares good for you and your son ... CONGRATULATIONS

1st my son is in middle school . 2nd how do you know so much with life after D1 big program college . Did someone tell you that all the good positive things ? I know a ton of guys that went to big program schools and have no jobs . Do $50 lacrosse clinics . I asked them what did you do all 4 years they laugh and say play lacrosse . Playing at a high level D1 program and academics is very difficult. Playing D1 program is a Full Time Job. You think the head coach cares about your career. NO . Just a Reality check that some of you cant handle and stop being so softed with my comments because if you kid is like you well good luck in the real world ! OUT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but it would appear the states of Arizona, Alabama, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Virginia and Vermont are done for the school year. Like it or not this is for the best and all states should do the same and we would have a better chance of hitting the fields this summer or fall.

Those states typically end school much earlier than NY. So this is hope, slim but hope.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why bash someone who son made it to a big program ... Congratulations to him ... for this person bashing it there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow it is called a great education , friends he will have made for the rest of his life and fantastic memories that he will always be able to look back on and a work ethic that all companies are looking for . He will also have a massive network to tap into when he goes out to work so to the person who is jealous of your son who cares good for you and your son ... CONGRATULATIONS

1st my son is in middle school . 2nd how do you know so much with life after D1 big program college . Did someone tell you that all the good positive things ? I know a ton of guys that went to big program schools and have no jobs . Do $50 lacrosse clinics . I asked them what did you do all 4 years they laugh and say play lacrosse . Playing at a high level D1 program and academics is very difficult. Playing D1 program is a Full Time Job. You think the head coach cares about your career. NO . Just a Reality check that some of you cant handle and stop being so softed with my comments because if you kid is like you well good luck in the real world ! OUT

Where does one begin with you. Well I'll take a stab at it. It's obvious, highly recommended, once school re-opens, You rush, be first in line, to enroll in your child's middle school; 4:1 teacher ratio. Thinking about it, You may be too far gone. And please, don't populate this world with anymore of Your offspring, I cringe to imagine you have more than one child. Secondly, You most likely have 2 to 3 labor intensive jobs, which requires using a small amount of your tiny cerebrum (part of your brain). Relatively speaking, a middle school child who plays lacrosse for his school team also has to maintain his/her academics in order to qualify to play (relatively, it's two full time jobs, on a child's level). Most likely, Your kid can't handle the pair. Finally, stay away from the keyboard, to prevent further embarrassment, let alone, announcing to the world how you are failing as a parent. Any good parent wants the best for their child. Thank you, be safe

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

What are you even talking about?? You do realize you're on a HS lacrosse forum? This is a place where people discuss the LI HS lacrosse season. A person says that they hope some games can be played, especially for the seniors and you bug out? Having played in college myself, and have two sons playing in college, one still in HS, I can tell you that playing a Division 1, 2, or 3 sport in college is a privilege that opens many doors and builds a ton of character. Many college programs have very strong alumni networks which help tremendously in securing a good job. The discipline these boys must exhibit to succeed in college sports requires mental toughness. As far kids getting into schools they may not have because of lacrosse, that's the ultimate goal as far as I'm concerned. You do realize that kids with perfect SATs and 4.0 gpa's are turned away from highly selective schools. These days, you can't get into a top school for just being smart. You also need a special and unique talent, that's the part lacrosse provides. I hope I have been able to enlighten you. So yes, lacrosse can provide a golden ticket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

What are you even talking about?? You do realize you're on a HS lacrosse forum? This is a place where people discuss the LI HS lacrosse season. A person says that they hope some games can be played, especially for the seniors and you bug out? Having played in college myself, and have two sons playing in college, one still in HS, I can tell you that playing a Division 1, 2, or 3 sport in college is a privilege that opens many doors and builds a ton of character. Many college programs have very strong alumni networks which help tremendously in securing a good job. The discipline these boys must exhibit to succeed in college sports requires mental toughness. As far kids getting into schools they may not have because of lacrosse, that's the ultimate goal as far as I'm concerned. You do realize that kids with perfect SATs and 4.0 gpa's are turned away from highly selective schools. These days, you can't get into a top school for just being smart. You also need a special and unique talent, that's the part lacrosse provides. I hope I have been able to enlighten you. So yes, lacrosse can provide a golden ticket.

Stop it. Lacrosse isn't a golden ticket to anything. So you get into college A vs college B. The whole college is a big waste of money debate is not for this forum. Ask the cashier at Dicks sporting goods about his college lacrosse days. He will be glad to talk your ear off. The golden part is perhaps your student loans aren't as high when you get out of school. Everyone reading this has young coaches on their team or friends that played college lacrosse and are living paycheck to paycheck hustling for these clubs. Nobody is knocking the discipline it takes to be a successful collegiate student athlete and the achievement should be recognized for those who can do it. The comment is about parents who say kids should be out playing lacrosse a month from now. The majority of people in this world are aware of this thing called the coronavirus outbreak, some I guess think it has something to do with skunk Corona beer. My little Johnny has to play lacrosse in May!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go ask the pro athletes who caught and spread the virus if playing sports is important right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

What are you even talking about?? You do realize you're on a HS lacrosse forum? This is a place where people discuss the LI HS lacrosse season. A person says that they hope some games can be played, especially for the seniors and you bug out? Having played in college myself, and have two sons playing in college, one still in HS, I can tell you that playing a Division 1, 2, or 3 sport in college is a privilege that opens many doors and builds a ton of character. Many college programs have very strong alumni networks which help tremendously in securing a good job. The discipline these boys must exhibit to succeed in college sports requires mental toughness. As far kids getting into schools they may not have because of lacrosse, that's the ultimate goal as far as I'm concerned. You do realize that kids with perfect SATs and 4.0 gpa's are turned away from highly selective schools. These days, you can't get into a top school for just being smart. You also need a special and unique talent, that's the part lacrosse provides. I hope I have been able to enlighten you. So yes, lacrosse can provide a golden ticket.

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses!

Stop it. Lacrosse isn't a golden ticket to anything. So you get into college A vs college B. The whole college is a big waste of money debate is not for this forum. Ask the cashier at Dicks sporting goods about his college lacrosse days. He will be glad to talk your ear off. The golden part is perhaps your student loans aren't as high when you get out of school. Everyone reading this has young coaches on their team or friends that played college lacrosse and are living paycheck to paycheck hustling for these clubs. Nobody is knocking the discipline it takes to be a successful collegiate student athlete and the achievement should be recognized for those who can do it. The comment is about parents who say kids should be out playing lacrosse a month from now. The majority of people in this world are aware of this thing called the coronavirus outbreak, some I guess think it has something to do with skunk Corona beer. My little Johnny has to play lacrosse in May!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go ask the pro athletes who caught and spread the virus if playing sports is important right now.[/quote]

Dude, just stay in your basement and never come out. You are a misery. Feel bad for your kids

Ummm....OK (yawn)....says the benchwarmers dad. Did you make the switch from Corona to Titos?

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses![/quote]

you sound like a laxer. "I've worked for JPM for 20 years so I know...... "

big Pic " does it really matter" hope all of your families are OK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses!

you sound like a laxer. "I've worked for JPM for 20 years so I know...... " [/quote]

Ok...and your bosses son is headed to Yale next year...never would have gotten in there without lax. Might be your boss in a few years. Your tone would be much different if your kid wasn’t riding pine! Maybe he should try the science research club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses!

you sound like a *laxer*. "I've worked for JPM for 20 years so I know...... "

Ok...and your bosses son is headed to Yale next year...never would have gotten in there without lax. Might be your boss in a few years. Your tone would be much different if your kid wasn’t riding pine! Maybe he should try the science research club? [/quote]

What do you do for JPM? ATM repair?

After reading this spirited debate I googled how much pro lacrosse players make. LOL . Golden ticket ..... for Paul Rabil maybe.

That’s all the more impressive since he made the majority of that money off the field. Pro lacrosse, as a so-called “non-core” sport, notoriously doesn’t pay well. MLL salaries reportedly range from about $10,000 to $25,000, while the average NLL salary is around $15,000.

With a reported average salary of $28,000 and full health coverage, the PLL, on paper at least, offers more than just an alternative to prospective players; it brings the hope of earning a living as a professional lacrosse player

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses!

you sound like a laxer. "I've worked for JPM for 20 years so I know...... "

Ok...and your bosses son is headed to Yale next year...never would have gotten in there without lax. Might be your boss in a few years. Your tone would be much different if your kid wasn’t riding pine! Maybe he should try the science research club? [/quote]

I wonder who are the most important people IN THE WORLD right now. Research scientists or lax players. Great example. Another genius who wants to send his kids out to play lacrosse this weekend. I wonder why Long Island has more COVID-19 cases than probably half the US states combined?

So, Cuomo just put out a target date of 4/29 for back to school. All things considered, does this give enough time to get some semblance of a season in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, Cuomo just put out a target date of 4/29 for back to school. All things considered, does this give enough time to get some semblance of a season in?

Yes, they would need to finish tryouts (some HS's) and wave the min # of practices before 1st game. I assume all out of state games are off. Maybe inter county games.

Then they need to address what to do with the crowds. That is a tough one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, Cuomo just put out a target date of 4/29 for back to school. All things considered, does this give enough time to get some semblance of a season in?

Did he actually say that was probable?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, Cuomo just put out a target date of 4/29 for back to school. All things considered, does this give enough time to get some semblance of a season in?

Yes, they would need to finish tryouts (some HS's) and wave the min # of practices before 1st game. I assume all out of state games are off. Maybe inter county games.

Then they need to address what to do with the crowds. That is a tough one.

Maybe just divisional play to cut down on the number of games

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage!!!!!! I have worked for one of the largest banks in the world out of NY for the last 20 years and I have done tons of interviews. I can't believe I have been forgetting to ask people in these interviews what college they played lacrosse at. I guess the Executives didn't pass down that lax directive. I'm going to resign tomorrow out of guilt for depriving my company of the talent I have missed out on due to the fact I haven't focused on D1 or D2 lacrosse players. Thanks for opening my eyes to this network of geniuses!

you sound like a laxer. "I've worked for JPM for 20 years so I know...... "

Ok...and your bosses son is headed to Yale next year...never would have gotten in there without lax. Might be your boss in a few years. Your tone would be much different if your kid wasn’t riding pine! Maybe he should try the science research club?

I wonder who are the most important people IN THE WORLD right now. Research scientists or lax players. Great example. Another genius who wants to send his kids out to play lacrosse this weekend. I wonder why Long Island has more COVID-19 cases than probably half the US states combined?
[/quote]
"I wonder who are the most important people IN THE WORLD right now. Research scientists or lax players."

https://yalebulldogs.com/sports/mens-lacrosse/roster/ben-reeves/3495

Sometimes it is both!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

If they go back to school on May 1 there will be a season of some sort

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

What do other states have to do with it? We're talking NY HS lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

Hey Stunad, I bet you they would name, Rabil and Pannell to start off with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

If they go back to school on May 1 there will be a season of some sort

As much as we would all like the to see our boys go back to the field and some normalcy regain its footing. Lax ain't gonna happen this spring or summer. We are in this for the long hall. Others have said it previously. I am just hoping out kids go back in the Fall!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, Cuomo just put out a target date of 4/29 for back to school. All things considered, does this give enough time to get some semblance of a season in?

Did he actually say that was probable?

I took Cuomo’s message saying NY was extending the shut down until at least April 29th (adding two more weeks to the old target date). Seems to me the odds of Spring HS lax this year isn’t good

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NY SCHOOLS CLOSED UNTIL APRIL 15th .... NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR LACROSSE THIS YEAR

Why not? Are you suggesting good lacrosse can't be played in May/June? Many of us are still hopeful to salvage a portion of the season!

"Us" as in the kids who are playing or "Us" as in the nutjob parent who thinks lacrosse is little johnnys ticket to fame and fortune??

It is us. Our son, our family. Kids succeed because of a supportive family culture. My son is a senior headed to a big program next year, so yes lax was the golden ticket getting him into a school he would never have gotten into without. We (parents, siblings, and son) were exited to experience senior year and all that goes along with it. We are still hopeful that some games might be played. Otherwise we will look forward to the next level. Too bad you're such a nasty hammerhead.

LOL.... Walk around anywhere that is not a field during an active lacrosse tournament and ask 10 people to name 1 famous Lacrosse player. Good luck getting an answer. Golden ticket lol. Sending kids out to play contact sports in the next 6 months is the golden ticket to spreading Coronavirus. I believe that your kid would never have gotten into a school without Lacrosse as there seems to be no brains being passed down from the parents. Maybe we should get Cuomo to dedicate some of his daily news conferences to notIntelligent sports parents who want to start sending kids out to play sports. Please let me know when the golden child gets back from his spring break trip in Florida so I can come watch this stud doing his 3 hours of wallball homework.

Hey Stunad, I bet you they would name, Rabil and Pannell to start off with.

Yeah, did you see the video of Pannell on the beach? That was funny.

CSH off to a great start this season! Wins over South Side, Manhasset, Pleasantville, Syosset and Huntington. Manhasset game was a classic they'll remember for the rest of their lives... Whoops, sorry I just woke up from a dream. I miss being able to have seen the above and other contests. Before some other dope turns this into a negative, feel free to edit game outcomes as they'd fit your alternative scenario. In fact, I messed it up. CSH is 0-5 but I sure enjoyed watching the boys play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

What do other states have to do with it? We're talking NY HS lax

Privates and some publics play out of state teams...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

EXCELLENT POINT.

yes, however why would we want those out of state teams here, should just be tournaments of NY teams in NY!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

EXCELLENT POINT.

For all the pessimists:

https://www.newsday.com/sports/high...igh-school-sports-coronavirus-1.43727843

The fat lady has yet to sing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes, however why would we want those out of state teams here, should just be tournaments of NY teams in NY!

You for real???? You will probably have to pay teams to come to NY to play. Just read an article about how truck drivers are afraid to come to NY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

EXCELLENT POINT.

For all the pessimists:

https://www.newsday.com/sports/high...igh-school-sports-coronavirus-1.43727843

The fat lady has yet to sing

I am all for optimism and yearn for normalcy especially for those athletes who want to be with teammates and friends but the fat lady has sung her song via zoom and is having a nice scotch on her couch. it ain't happening

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

A little off topic but is playing division 1 college lacrosse worth it? I understand that lacrosse is a means to an end in that your son can get into a better school through lacrosse. But by getting into that better school and playing lacrosse full time, what major can you take that will allow you the required study time to be successful? Being told you can't take majors that have labs or on job training because you need to be on the field doesn't sound very enticing. Kids taking dead end majors because of 4 years of d1 lacrosse doesn't sound worth it. I would like to hear from some of the members on this forum with their son's college lacrosse experiences whether they play or played d1, 2 or 3 lacrosse. I'm looking for the time commitment at the different levels and if possible the end result at graduation. When I asked a friend who played d1 hockey if he had to do it all over again would he, he replied no it was a job (6am practice and then 5pm practice). Now with the NCAA granting kids another year of college lacrosse does not make it very appealing for a kid entering college lacrosse the next 3-4 years. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let school lax go it's not gonna happen! Might be able to salvage travel if they keep it in newyork! Remember we got hit first so when we're pulling out of this mess other states are just getting into it!

EXCELLENT POINT.

For all the pessimists:

https://www.newsday.com/sports/high...igh-school-sports-coronavirus-1.43727843

The fat lady has yet to sing

I am all for optimism and yearn for normalcy especially for those athletes who want to be with teammates and friends but the fat lady has sung her song via zoom and is having a nice scotch on her couch. it ain't happening

Being that the Regents have been cancelled, I would think that the furthest thing from their minds would be how to salvage an athletic season. My heart goes out to the seniors and their families.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A little off topic but is playing division 1 college lacrosse worth it? I understand that lacrosse is a means to an end in that your son can get into a better school through lacrosse. But by getting into that better school and playing lacrosse full time, what major can you take that will allow you the required study time to be successful? Being told you can't take majors that have labs or on job training because you need to be on the field doesn't sound very enticing. Kids taking dead end majors because of 4 years of d1 lacrosse doesn't sound worth it. I would like to hear from some of the members on this forum with their son's college lacrosse experiences whether they play or played d1, 2 or 3 lacrosse. I'm looking for the time commitment at the different levels and if possible the end result at graduation. When I asked a friend who played d1 hockey if he had to do it all over again would he, he replied no it was a job (6am practice and then 5pm practice). Now with the NCAA granting kids another year of college lacrosse does not make it very appealing for a kid entering college lacrosse the next 3-4 years. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I contemplated the same subject. I suggest to my son, don't get caught up in ALL the lacrosse hype. It's hype and that's all it is. If you can use it to maintain a path do so. Just don't become too focused on lax, because you will lose sight on things that matter. But to answer your question, I feel once that time comes regarding playing collegiate lax, then you make the decision. Even then, you don't know for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Imagine how NCAA freshman basketball and football players feel. They actually have the potential to make a living from their sport and the school has potential to make revenue. Image college administrator trying to figure out the numbers. Too keep it simple we have rooms/dorms for 100 kids. 25 of those rooms to go freshman scholarship athletes normally. Unfortunately now we have 10 kids who would normally graduate who will be back to their rooms are taking away from the 25 freshman rooms. 15 freshman athlete rooms now. Football gets 50%, basketball gets 40% lacrosse gets 10%. You have 1.5 rooms for lacrosse left. Good luck lacrosse kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

Several college teams played as many as 7 games and all are getting another full year of eligibility. High school players haven't played 1 game, are on the verge of having their entire season canceled and get nothing for it.

Sorry if you are not able to follow along and comprehend the difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

Several college teams played as many as 7 games and all are getting another full year of eligibility. High school players haven't played 1 game, are on the verge of having their entire season canceled and get nothing for it.

Sorry if you are not able to follow along and comprehend the difference.

As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

Several college teams played as many as 7 games and all are getting another full year of eligibility. High school players haven't played 1 game, are on the verge of having their entire season canceled and get nothing for it.

Sorry if you are not able to follow along and comprehend the difference.

As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy

You have issues.....

stinks for everyone. Especially HS seniors who had their last chance to play with friends wiped in all the sports. Never getting it back. Alot of the kids never playing again. Anyone who has played on a team knows half the fun is hanging out , practice and making friends. Poor kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stinks for everyone. Especially HS seniors who had their last chance to play with friends wiped in all the sports. Never getting it back. Alot of the kids never playing again. Anyone who has played on a team knows half the fun is hanging out , practice and making friends. Poor kids.

Yes, a shame. For the kids that are committed to play in college, they have something to look forward too. I feel worst for the kids that are missing their last chance to be recruited. I was recruited my senior year, so I really feel for these kids and the missed chance. Very sad.

Theirs always barber college!

Will there be Under Armor All-America games this year? Seems awfully quite from UA

For those willing to pay their travel director, travel coach and UA-AA staff a handsome sum, they will always make the selection sight unseen, so if and when it happens in the 11th hour and the selections are made, now you know why. It's best to make that payment the same time you want to get a special write up or ranking by IL and LILJ.

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown[/quote]"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

LETS GO WE ARE READY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho[/quote]

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those willing to pay their travel director, travel coach and UA-AA staff a handsome sum, they will always make the selection sight unseen, so if and when it happens in the 11th hour and the selections are made, now you know why. It's best to make that payment the same time you want to get a special write up or ranking by IL and LILJ.

Not sure about payoffs, but the UA teams are already picked minus a few players, always have been,

Follow the Coaches and Coaches Buddies and you will know majority of team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.[/quote]

Easy there girls.

Bad decision to give extra year eligibility to college players. Everyone from College , High School, Youth missed their season. All continued their education and it looks like they will graduate if they were seniors. That is the intent of school.

This changes the dynamics of college sports for next 4 years in many ways that it was not meant to be.
One is the transfer portal is already blowing up with lacrosse mercenary's for hire. Not the intent of rules, nor intent of SCHOOL sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.[/quote]

You know something, when everything is all said and done, NO ONE CARES, but the people affected. And that's the truth!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.[/quote]

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess[/quote]

Ignorant is right! What kind of piece of garbage would trivialize the impact this virus is having on our seniors?? No Lax season, which hurts most for those boys who had their last chance to be recruited, No senior day, No prom, No graduation. YOU are a disgusting piece of garbage and you must be instilling into your son to be the worst type of selfish teammate to make a statement that the poster must have a senior son. I have a senior son and your post is over the top offensive. Lacrosse is a brotherhood, clearly you’re not a team player, one day your son might need the help of his teammates. Just remember that while you promote your selfish attitude.

I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. What if this years lacrosse season is postponed until the fall.? Will the boys have to make a choice of playing lax or football? Most of our boys are looking for lax to help them get into college. Football is more a fun sport with their friends.
Thoughts???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. What if this years lacrosse season is postponed until the fall.? Will the boys have to make a choice of playing lax or football? Most of our boys are looking for lax to help them get into college. Football is more a fun sport with their friends.
Thoughts???

Interesting but would never happen......way to many hurdles to make that happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess[/quote]

Ignorant is right! What kind of piece of garbage would trivialize the impact this virus is having on our seniors?? No Lax season, which hurts most for those boys who had their last chance to be recruited, No senior day, No prom, No graduation. YOU are a disgusting piece of garbage and you must be instilling into your son to be the worst type of selfish teammate to make a statement that the poster must have a senior son. I have a senior son and your post is over the top offensive. Lacrosse is a brotherhood, clearly you’re not a team player, one day your son might need the help of his teammates. Just remember that while you promote your selfish attitude.
[/quote]

How about "hoping that it doesn't work out" for the poster's son. This guy's a total DB. Probably beats his dog

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes, however, why would we want those out of state teams here, should just be tournaments of NY teams in NY!

You for real???? You will probably have to pay teams to come to NY to play. Just read an article about how truck drivers are afraid to come to NY.

Well LOL, you are so right, There are plenty of great talented athletes and great coaching here we do not need Pa, MD CA, etc. I believe that a lot of the good public and private HS teams already have late spring/summer and fall travel programs to evaluate and build. So the best-case scenario will be to expand that this year and that leaves a lot of travel programs as the odd man out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this sounds crazy but hear me out. What if this years lacrosse season is postponed until the fall.? Will the boys have to make a choice of playing lax or football? Most of our boys are looking for lax to help them get into college. Football is more a fun sport with their friends.
Thoughts???

Interesting but would never happen......way to many hurdles to make that happen.

That is interesting and But Football will stay, however I could see HS Lax teams expanding the Fall ball schedule with Tourn and scrimmage play as optional of course. Athletes that play multiple sports love whatever sport is in season and only us crazy parents think LAX scholarship or die is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everybody crying for college seniors who had fall ball and half a season and now get another year of eligibility. Nobody seems to care about the HIGH SCHOOL senior. That kid is likely to have no season and then, if playing in college, gets to join a packed roster with returning seniors who should have graduated. And then that process repeats itself for the next 4 years. So even when these kids are eventually college seniors, kids a year older who should've graduated will still be hanging around. NCAA royally screwed these kids (and 202s by the way also).

You’re a selfish donk

How is that selfish? It's 100% accurate. Each class for the next 4-5 years was impacted negatively, however, this year's seniors took it on the chin particularly hard. They've been robbed of much more than just lax.

Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

Several college teams played as many as 7 games and all are getting another full year of eligibility. High school players haven't played 1 game, are on the verge of having their entire season canceled and get nothing for it.

Sorry if you are not able to follow along and comprehend the difference.

As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy

Says the guy who is selfish and self absorbed, and is only thinking about the college players. HS players got hosed even more. How about a little empathy and agree that the HS Players and College players both got hosed. Stunad

I wish the HS coaches would at least hand out uniforms and let the kids feel like they are part of something that has a hope of playing some kind of season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish the HS coaches would at least hand out uniforms and let the kids feel like they are part of something that has a hope of playing some kind of season.

Why don't you sit you child down and explain to him/her how fortunate all of you are for your health and well being. Front liners are working around the clock, risking bringing this deadly virus home to their love ones and your only focus is uniforms? Tell your kid he/she is part of something. That something is, Society, Now, at this juncture in time, what are they doing to contribute to our society.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

You know something, when everything is all said and done, NO ONE CARES, but the people affected. And that's the truth!

Exactly!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess[/quote]

Ignorant is right! What kind of piece of garbage would trivialize the impact this virus is having on our seniors?? No Lax season, which hurts most for those boys who had their last chance to be recruited, No senior day, No prom, No graduation. YOU are a disgusting piece of garbage and you must be instilling into your son to be the worst type of selfish teammate to make a statement that the poster must have a senior son. I have a senior son and your post is over the top offensive. Lacrosse is a brotherhood, clearly you’re not a team player, one day your son might need the help of his teammates. Just remember that while you promote your selfish attitude.
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Again, my son plays in college. He played 4 games before the season was halted. Your hurt is no greater than anyone else. Too bad for you son, I really don’t care!! Just like you don’t care for mine. Take your crying elsewhere> Probably instilling that softness in your son. Too bad for him,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Ignorant is right! What kind of piece of garbage would trivialize the impact this virus is having on our seniors?? No Lax season, which hurts most for those boys who had their last chance to be recruited, No senior day, No prom, No graduation. YOU are a disgusting piece of garbage and you must be instilling into your son to be the worst type of selfish teammate to make a statement that the poster must have a senior son. I have a senior son and your post is over the top offensive. Lacrosse is a brotherhood, clearly you’re not a team player, one day your son might need the help of his teammates. Just remember that while you promote your selfish attitude.
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Again, my son plays in college. He played 4 games before the season was halted. Your hurt is no greater than anyone else. Too bad for you son, I really don’t care!! Just like you don’t care for mine. Take your crying elsewhere> Probably instilling that softness in your son. Too bad for him,
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Why, then, are you on a HS thread? Take your day drinking spews to LaxFan angry, tough guy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Where is your concern for all the college players losing a season? My son got 4 games, get over yourself you self absorbed clown

"

"As stated, selfish and self absorbed, only about you and yours. Hope it doesn’t work out for your boy"

^What a Donkeyhole. If you can't see how HS seniors lost more than most, then it is you who is selfish and self absorbed. I, however, wish your son the best. You, not so much tho

As originally stated, you are a Self absorbed selfish person. HS seniors lost no more than anyone else. Only difference is YOU have a HS senior. Life’s tough.

Not even close to being true. But there's no debating with the ignorant, I guess

Ignorant is right! What kind of piece of garbage would trivialize the impact this virus is having on our seniors?? No Lax season, which hurts most for those boys who had their last chance to be recruited, No senior day, No prom, No graduation. YOU are a disgusting piece of garbage and you must be instilling into your son to be the worst type of selfish teammate to make a statement that the poster must have a senior son. I have a senior son and your post is over the top offensive. Lacrosse is a brotherhood, clearly you’re not a team player, one day your son might need the help of his teammates. Just remember that while you promote your selfish attitude.
[/quote]

Again, my son plays in college. He played 4 games before the season was halted. Your hurt is no greater than anyone else. Too bad for you son, I really don’t care!! Just like you don’t care for mine. Take your crying elsewhere> Probably instilling that softness in your son. Too bad for him,
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Too funny. Would love to know what college program has an ignorant dope of a parent like you connected to their program. You must be awesome during games....

You all have serious issues !!!

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

Lax is a family affair. Clearly you don’t have a kid that plays in college. The family aspect of the game is part of the experience and encouraged by the coaches. Kids that are supported by family in HS are more likely to be successful. So yes it’s not just him, it’s us. The lifelong friendships and extended family ties made between the players and families of players are priceless, and it all happens because we’re all in! Must be sad for you to have to look in from the outside and make up ridiculous insults. Feel bad for you! Lighten up Francis!

BOYS ARE READY TO EAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think somebody needs to set up a HS invitational and let this class of 2020 enjoy one last time playing with their classmates. Do it in style and have tourney (maybe Lake Placid) and not endorsing or recommending just an example of a late summer tourney. What a great way for seniors put an end to their HS career. Think of matchups that are possible. Calvert Hall v St Anthony’s, Culver v Hill, Melville v Victor, Manhasset v GC, Chaminade v Darien, Massapequa v DelBarton, Mountain Lakes v Mount Sinai, GC v SWR, Manhasset v Boys Latin , etc etc, common match ups and teams that never played before. It would be a superb event. I bet you could 40 teams to commit in minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

You my friend are clueless. Having 2 kids now paying Division 1 lacrosse , I can tell you it is a family affair. It was during travel, it was in High School and it still is. Highs and lows along the way and worth every minute. Good luck to you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think somebody needs to set up a HS invitational and let this class of 2020 enjoy one last time playing with their classmates. Do it in style and have tourney (maybe Lake Placid) and not endorsing or recommending just an example of a late summer tourney. What a great way for seniors put an end to their HS career. Think of matchups that are possible. Calvert Hall v St Anthony’s, Culver v Hill, Melville v Victor, Manhasset v GC, Chaminade v Darien, Massapequa v DelBarton, Mountain Lakes v Mount Sinai, GC v SWR, Manhasset v Boys Latin , etc etc, common match ups and teams that never played before. It would be a superb event. I bet you could 40 teams to commit in minutes.

Will never happen, dense idea

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think somebody needs to set up a HS invitational and let this class of 2020 enjoy one last time playing with their classmates. Do it in style and have tourney (maybe Lake Placid) and not endorsing or recommending just an example of a late summer tourney. What a great way for seniors put an end to their HS career. Think of matchups that are possible. Calvert Hall v St Anthony’s, Culver v Hill, Melville v Victor, Manhasset v GC, Chaminade v Darien, Massapequa v DelBarton, Mountain Lakes v Mount Sinai, GC v SWR, Manhasset v Boys Latin , etc etc, common match ups and teams that never played before. It would be a superb event. I bet you could 40 teams to commit in minutes.

Its called NHSLS...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

Lax is a family affair. Clearly you don’t have a kid that plays in college. The family aspect of the game is part of the experience and encouraged by the coaches. Kids that are supported by family in HS are more likely to be successful. So yes it’s not just him, it’s us. The lifelong friendships and extended family ties made between the players and families of players are priceless, and it all happens because we’re all in! Must be sad for you to have to look in from the outside and make up ridiculous insults. Feel bad for you! Lighten up Francis!

Keep telling yourself you’re part of the team. You’re a pest to the coach. You never played, that’s why you need this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

You my friend are clueless. Having 2 kids now paying Division 1 lacrosse , I can tell you it is a family affair. It was during travel, it was in High School and it still is. Highs and lows along the way and worth every minute. Good luck to you!

Do the families sharpen their knives together, the same ones used to stab one another in the back? I don't know about this big happy family theory, I don't trust many of the parents, so I maintain social distance. Don't think I'm the only one who thinks this way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

You my friend are clueless. Having 2 kids now paying Division 1 lacrosse , I can tell you it is a family affair. It was during travel, it was in High School and it still is. Highs and lows along the way and worth every minute. Good luck to you!

Ahhhh, the my son plays D1 so I’m an expert. You’re no more an expert than the D2 and D3 parents. Get off your lofty pedestal friend. The only thing you’re responsible for is the tailgate. You don’t practice or play. Good luck to you as well.

Its official. Nassau and Suffolk sports are DONE for the year. Now there is no hope. I thought we could cling to hope until May 15th...

Devastating for the seniors. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical, parent thinking the program is about them. I’m not associated with any program, my son is. The other one is associated with the HS program. Has nothing to do with me. But keep living through your kids games, let me know how much the therapy costs. You must be special at the parent meetings, all about you!! Selfish, self absorbed clown!! Thanks for showing everyone here who you are.

You my friend are clueless. Having 2 kids now paying Division 1 lacrosse , I can tell you it is a family affair. It was during travel, it was in High School and it still is. Highs and lows along the way and worth every minute. Good luck to you!

Ahhhh, the my son plays D1 so I’m an expert. You’re no more an expert than the D2 and D3 parents. Get off your lofty pedestal friend. The only thing you’re responsible for is the tailgate. You don’t practice or play. Good luck to you as well.

You are mistaken my friend. It would be no different if my kids played D2 or D3 lacrosse. I’m still involved and continue to throw the ball around and shoot up at the high school with the. For me it’s not about the tailgates, I’m in the stands cheering for my kids and enjoying every minute. To bad you have nothing to do with your kids. You’re missing out.

He doesn't need luck. He has two sons in a D1 program and is taking advantage of the social connections - something he will never forget. They will share a bond for life. You on the other hand...you need a lot of luck. Get a clue....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its official. Nassau and Suffolk sports are DONE for the year. Now there is no hope. I thought we could cling to hope until May 15th...

Devastating for the seniors. Sad.

Many were waiting for answers, but recruiting is put on hold with coaches focused on returning their seniors, and over 400 on the transfer portal. Not good for anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its official. Nassau and Suffolk sports are DONE for the year. Now there is no hope. I thought we could cling to hope until May 15th...

Devastating for the seniors. Sad.

Same is true for the MIAA here in Maryland...announcement was made today. I have a senior player and yes, it is very sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He doesn't need luck. He has two sons in a D1 program and is taking advantage of the social connections - something he will never forget. They will share a bond for life. You on the other hand...you need a lot of luck. Get a clue....

Missing the point my victimized friend. As stated, I go to games, support my kids. I’m not part of the team. It’s their team, and I support them wholeheartedly. Stop making it about you, you’re not part of the team. Sorry your boys season is cancelled. Life’s tough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He doesn't need luck. He has two sons in a D1 program and is taking advantage of the social connections - something he will never forget. They will share a bond for life. You on the other hand...you need a lot of luck. Get a clue....

Missing the point my victimized friend. As stated, I go to games, support my kids. I’m not part of the team. It’s their team, and I support them wholeheartedly. Stop making it about you, you’re not part of the team. Sorry your boys season is cancelled. Life’s tough.

I fully understand what you're saying. I support my son, his team, etc. I'm not a part of the team, nor do I want to be. It boils down to the kids playing the game itself, and the parents incorporating their version of reality show drama within that frame work. Some parents are just needy people, constantly craving attention. Not my circus, not my clowns!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He doesn't need luck. He has two sons in a D1 program and is taking advantage of the social connections - something he will never forget. They will share a bond for life. You on the other hand...you need a lot of luck. Get a clue....

Missing the point my victimized friend. As stated, I go to games, support my kids. I’m not part of the team. It’s their team, and I support them wholeheartedly. Stop making it about you, you’re not part of the team. Sorry your boys season is cancelled. Life’s tough.

I fully understand what you're saying. I support my son, his team, etc. I'm not a part of the team, nor do I want to be. It boils down to the kids playing the game itself, and the parents incorporating their version of reality show drama within that frame work. Some parents are just needy people, constantly craving attention. Not my circus, not my clowns!

Excellent post

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its official. Nassau and Suffolk sports are DONE for the year. Now there is no hope. I thought we could cling to hope until May 15th...

Devastating for the seniors. Sad.

Many were waiting for answers, but recruiting is put on hold with coaches focused on returning their seniors, and over 400 on the transfer portal. Not good for anyone.

The proposed NCAA waiver to reduce the number of non revenue sports will be devastating. You have to imagine lacrosse being a non-revenue sport that it is, could be on the chopping block at some of these schools. It's long overdue.

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

Women's basketball is by far the biggest financial drain on any athletic program. In 2016-17, the UConn women Huskies produced a revenue of $3.55 million while spending an astronomical $7.9 million. That's a loss $4.4MM.

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

School lax is great if your kid goes to a school with a great lax program! But if they go to a small school with a crappy program and your kid has to be in a certain group to get playing time then we rely on travel! So for all you parents that are teachers or board members that have your nose up the coaches butt Boo Hoo, haha!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

School lax is great if your kid goes to a school with a great lax program! But if they go to a small school with a crappy program and your kid has to be in a certain group to get playing time then we rely on travel! So for all you parents that are teachers or board members that have your nose up the coaches butt Boo Hoo, haha!

"Certain groups," sounds like our district. Teachers, parents that have personal relationship with one another, parent PAL coaches/ board members, and parents who have personal relationships with BOE members.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

Hah! I thought I wrote this. Glad someone else is on board with this concept. FLG/LILJ will purposefully not give any attention to some kids that are better. On top of that, the rankings are certainly not based on experience and solid evaluation. They got LILJ up and running for two years with maybe 2 on the staff. There is no way they could evaluate 100 boys and girls over the course of a season or two, let alone the rising freshman from middle school games. So they rely on coaches who provide the BS. High school coaches who don't play the game of daddy ball and politics or funnel the travel programs/training are ignored.

It's a joke. College coaches watch players minimum 6-8 tournaments (not games). FLG/LILJ and IL must be prodigies. But if you're from Smithtown West or WI or Manhasset or Syosset or any of the Maryland/DMV/NC schools who pay for mentions like they do to IL, you would understand those lists are 'ad space' like the rest of the online world. But LILJ and IL would never admit it because they are creating click bait to increase ad revenue and sponsorship dollars. Keep the churn going and any negative coverage like this helps garner attention.

Hah, you sound bitter. I guess your kid did not get written up. At least there is some press following the sport. They do make an effort to speak to coaches and players from many programs are represented both Hs and Club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hah, you sound bitter. I guess your kid did not get written up. At least there is some press following the sport. They do make an effort to speak to coaches and players from many programs are represented both Hs and Club.

My kid got written up and he stinks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

Hah! I thought I wrote this. Glad someone else is on board with this concept. FLG/LILJ will purposefully not give any attention to some kids that are better. On top of that, the rankings are certainly not based on experience and solid evaluation. They got LILJ up and running for two years with maybe 2 on the staff. There is no way they could evaluate 100 boys and girls over the course of a season or two, let alone the rising freshman from middle school games. So they rely on coaches who provide the BS. High school coaches who don't play the game of daddy ball and politics or funnel the travel programs/training are ignored.

It's a joke. College coaches watch players minimum 6-8 tournaments (not games). FLG/LILJ and IL must be prodigies. But if you're from Smithtown West or WI or Manhasset or Syosset or any of the Maryland/DMV/NC schools who pay for mentions like they do to IL, you would understand those lists are 'ad space' like the rest of the online world. But LILJ and IL would never admit it because they are creating click bait to increase ad revenue and sponsorship dollars. Keep the churn going and any negative coverage like this helps garner attention.

LILJ is published by FLG, so of course they're going to write up some of their better players on each team. Do you really think anyone is leaving the storefront in Huntington to watch the Center Moriches-Deer Park game on a Tuesday afternoon?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hah, you sound bitter. I guess your kid did not get written up. At least there is some press following the sport. They do make an effort to speak to coaches and players from many programs are represented both Hs and Club.

If they took the time to ask the Manhasset coach, they would know that kid would have played JV this season and only sat the bench if he was moved up. Hype and parents calling coaches only gets you so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

I heard the same. Wasn't FLG on a downward spiral a few months ago? So they put together nothing more than a dressed up Blog, post names of a few kids. Since the parents are insecure and the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, they logon to the Blog site and click away which equates to $$$$.

A complete Clown Ego Maniac ,,,,, How many videos can he put out about his kid.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

Just viewed the 2023 watch list. Everyone should be pleased, it seems every 2023 lacrosse player on Long island was mentioned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

Just viewed the 2023 watch list. Everyone should be pleased, it seems every 2023 lacrosse player on Long island was mentioned.

It was only a few months ago, FLG was in a head first downward spiral, with the owner defending himself against a law suite. Fast forward, the owner of FLG and his kid create some sort of on-line magazine type publication, that resembles a long winded advertisement. Moreover, the kids vote for one another, get their name posted to a simple Microsoft Excel spread sheet, resulting in parents, family and friends clicking away, ultimately equating to $$$$$ for FLG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

Just viewed the 2023 watch list. Everyone should be pleased, it seems every 2023 lacrosse player on Long island was mentioned.

It was only a few months ago, FLG was in a head first downward spiral, with the owner defending himself against a law suite. Fast forward, the owner of FLG and his kid create some sort of on-line magazine type publication, that resembles a long winded advertisement. Moreover, the kids vote for one another, get their name posted to a simple Microsoft Excel spread sheet, resulting in parents, family and friends clicking away, ultimately equating to $$$$$ for FLG.

Total scam. Also, do you think the Chaminade parents were clicking away at their computers while they had their red jackets on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

Apparently it was the kids voting for themselves is the inside scoop I got from someone on the list. Total joke. FLG is a joke also. Did you see JS on the LILJ website, and then his kids make the list??? If that makes them feel better so be it!

Just viewed the 2023 watch list. Everyone should be pleased, it seems every 2023 lacrosse player on Long island was mentioned.

It was only a few months ago, FLG was in a head first downward spiral, with the owner defending himself against a law suite. Fast forward, the owner of FLG and his kid create some sort of on-line magazine type publication, that resembles a long winded advertisement. Moreover, the kids vote for one another, get their name posted to a simple Microsoft Excel spread sheet, resulting in parents, family and friends clicking away, ultimately equating to $$$$$ for FLG.

Total scam. Also, do you think the Chaminade parents were clicking away at their computers while they had their red jackets on?

FLG is doing everything under the heavens generating some kind of revenue to pay off their judgement dept. No one can say, their thought process generating revenue during these unrepresented times, targeting the insecure is a stroke of genius, but it was smart considering the lax audience.

FLG reaches out to HS varsity coaches and asks which of the kids in each grade are considered to be part of the future/present of the teams. That’s the criteria. Having kids, parents, friends, grandparents, etc... nominate players is strictly for the purpose of site traffic. I know little about the FLG lawsuits other than seeing something on this site, however, they are doing a good job of getting their name out there by highlighting teams, coaches and players. As with every list, this has its flaws. But whatever grade you son is in, most of the names are legitimate players. Of course there are many exceptions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG reaches out to HS varsity coaches and asks which of the kids in each grade are considered to be part of the future/present of the teams. That’s the criteria. Having kids, parents, friends, grandparents, etc... nominate players is strictly for the purpose of site traffic. I know little about the FLG lawsuits other than seeing something on this site, however, they are doing a good job of getting their name out there by highlighting teams, coaches and players. As with every list, this has its flaws. But whatever grade you son is in, most of the names are legitimate players. Of course there are many exceptions.

My friend, you're talking out of both sides of your face. FLG is a failing organization. They gave away a segment of their blog space listing kids names to generate attention to their organization.

Wrong. The kids did not have any say in who made the list. Sorry your kid was left off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong. The kids did not have any say in who made the list. Sorry your kid was left off.

Laughable. Voting was done by the kids. Nice deflection LILJ

My Kid is on both lists. But none of this matters unless you play. Many kids not on the list could have turned out to be the better players. A shame we'll never know! Lucky For my son and many of the others, they're headed to play in college next year, so have to be grateful for that!

If some of the kids voted for the list,mine did not, then isnt that a good thing. It shows that they can recognize the future leaders for lacrosse.

This season being cancelled really messes with the seniors as well as any junior's that haven’t chosen schools

many seniors going on to play in college next year are in touch with their future teammates and looking forward to next year. not a saving grace but it gives them something to look forward to instead of dwelling on the tragedy of this season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

many seniors going on to play in college next year are in touch with their future teammates and looking forward to next year. not a saving grace but it gives them something to look forward to instead of dwelling on the tragedy of this season.

yes and no. The reality is that this fall, winter, and spring is up in the air, yes, some states and other parts of country are in better shape than others, but, NCAA head Emmert said that schools that don’t have open campus with kids on them, no fall sports. Conference commissioners are on board with this. Ncaa hoops said a decision needs to be made by 9/1 if hoops will even happen. Fauci is going to say that opening too soon will have severe consequences - unneedless suffering and death. Regardless of where you come down on this, states listen to him. Couple this with a recent survey that over 50% of people would NOT take a vaccine even if it were available. Team sports with little or heavy contact will have a tough time coming back. Golf, tennis,etc sure, but revenue generating And contact sports at schools are in real jeopardy of being another year away. Schools getting kids back on campus by 9/1? Tough to see as campuses, dorms, classrooms, food courts lend itself to close proximity at all levels of life on a campus which is part of the college experience. If states,schools, parents follow what Fauci’s of the world say there could be just enough fear to make schools take pause. Will schools be shielded from any liability? Having some sort of a hybrid of on campus/virtual experience is just not the same.. This whole thing stinks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

many seniors going on to play in college next year are in touch with their future teammates and looking forward to next year. not a saving grace but it gives them something to look forward to instead of dwelling on the tragedy of this season.

yes and no. The reality is that this fall, winter, and spring is up in the air, yes, some states and other parts of country are in better shape than others, but, NCAA head Emmert said that schools that don’t have open campus with kids on them, no fall sports. Conference commissioners are on board with this. Ncaa hoops said a decision needs to be made by 9/1 if hoops will even happen. Fauci is going to say that opening too soon will have severe consequences - unneedless suffering and death. Regardless of where you come down on this, states listen to him. Couple this with a recent survey that over 50% of people would NOT take a vaccine even if it were available. Team sports with little or heavy contact will have a tough time coming back. Golf, tennis,etc sure, but revenue generating And contact sports at schools are in real jeopardy of being another year away. Schools getting kids back on campus by 9/1? Tough to see as campuses, dorms, classrooms, food courts lend itself to close proximity at all levels of life on a campus which is part of the college experience. If states,schools, parents follow what Fauci’s of the world say there could be just enough fear to make schools take pause. Will schools be shielded from any liability? Having some sort of a hybrid of on campus/virtual experience is just not the same.. This whole thing stinks.

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

Some of these colleges were a house of cards anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much money do these manhasset parents pay FLG/LILJ to hype their mediocre kids?? A full article about a JV player?

NOW IS MENTIONED WITH THE BEST ON LI.. JORNALISTC INTEGRITY AT ITS FINEST

NOW THE BRO IS ON THE ALL DECADE TEAM..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...versity-campuses-staying-closed-for-fall

California staying online classes for fall spells no football

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...versity-campuses-staying-closed-for-fall

Yes but University of Arizona will be open. Cali system is run by state government and can just raise taxes to cover the shortfall. Private universities don’t have that option.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...versity-campuses-staying-closed-for-fall

Message from Purdue President:
Purdue University, for its part, intends to accept students on campus in typical numbers this fall, sober about the certain problems that the COVID-19 virus represents, but determined not to surrender helplessly to those difficulties but to tackle and manage them aggressively and creatively. ...

Distance between people, that is, less density, is now the overriding societal imperative. It could be argued that a college campus will be among the most difficult places to reopen for previously regular activities.

But in other respects, a place like Purdue may be in better position to resume its mission. Our campus community, a “city” of 50,000+ people, is highly unusual in its makeup. At least 80% of our population is made up of young people, say, 35 and under. All data to date tell us that the COVID-19 virus, while it transmits rapidly in this age group, poses close to zero lethal threat to them.

Meanwhile, the virus has proven to be a serious danger to other, older demographic groups, especially those with underlying health problems. The roughly 20% of our Purdue community who are over 35 years old contains a significant number of people with diabetes, asthma, hypertension, and other ailments which together comprise a very high percentage of the fatal and most severe COVID-19 cases.

We will consider new policies and practices that keep these groups separate, or minimize contact between them. Literally, our students pose a far greater danger to others than the virus poses to them. We all have a role, and a responsibility, in ensuring the health of the Purdue community.

The approaches below are preliminary, meant to be illustrative of the objectives we will pursue. View them as examples, likely to be replaced by better ideas as we identify and validate them. They could include spreading out classes across days and times to reduce their size, more use of online instruction for on-campus students, virtualizing laboratory work, and similar steps. ...

We intend to know as much as possible about the viral health status of our community. This could include pre-testing of students and staff before arrival in August, for both infection and post-infection immunity through antibodies. It will include a robust testing system during the school year, using Purdue’s own BSL-2 level laboratory for fast results. Anyone showing symptoms will be tested promptly, and quarantined if positive, in space we will set aside for that purpose.

We expect to be able to trace proximate and/or frequent contacts of those who test positive. Contacts in the vulnerable categories will be asked to self-quarantine for the recommended period, currently 14 days. Those in the young, least vulnerable group will be tested, quarantined if positive, or checked regularly for symptoms if negative for both antibodies and the virus.

Again, these concepts are preliminary, intended mainly to illustrate an overall, data-driven and research-based strategy, and to invite suggestions for their modification or exclusion in favor of better actions. They will be augmented by a host of other changes, such as an indefinite prohibition on gatherings above a specified size, continued limitations on visitors to and travel away from campus, required use of face coverings and other protective equipment, frequent if not daily deep cleaning of facilities, and so forth.

Whatever its eventual components, a return-to-operations strategy is undergirded by a fundamental conviction that even a phenomenon as menacing as COVID-19 is one of the inevitable risks of life. Like most sudden and alarming developments, its dangers are graphic, expressed in tragic individual cases, and immediate; the costs of addressing it are less visible, more diffuse, and longer-term. It is a huge and daunting problem, but the Purdue way has always been to tackle problems, not hide from them.

Closing down our entire society, including our university, was a correct and necessary step. It has had invaluable results. But like any action so drastic, it has come at extraordinary costs, as much human as economic, and at some point, clearly before next fall, those will begin to vastly outweigh the benefits of its continuance. Interrupting and postponing the education of tomorrow’s leaders for another entire semester or year, is one of many such costs. So is permanently damaging the careers and lives of those who have made teaching and research their life’s work, and those who support them in that endeavor.

The COVID-19 virus will remain a fact of life this autumn. Natural immunity, which has been slowed by the shutdown, will not yet have fully developed. No vaccine can be counted on until 2021 at the soonest. It is unclear what course other schools will choose, but Purdue will employ every measure we can adopt or devise to manage this challenge with maximum safety for every member of the Boilermaker family, while proceeding with the noble and essential mission for which our institution stands.

Sincerely,

Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr.

President

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...versity-campuses-staying-closed-for-fall

Message from Purdue President:
Purdue University, for its part, intends to accept students on campus in typical numbers this fall, sober about the certain problems that the COVID-19 virus represents, but determined not to surrender helplessly to those difficulties but to tackle and manage them aggressively and creatively. ...

Distance between people, that is, less density, is now the overriding societal imperative. It could be argued that a college campus will be among the most difficult places to reopen for previously regular activities.

But in other respects, a place like Purdue may be in better position to resume its mission. Our campus community, a “city” of 50,000+ people, is highly unusual in its makeup. At least 80% of our population is made up of young people, say, 35 and under. All data to date tell us that the COVID-19 virus, while it transmits rapidly in this age group, poses close to zero lethal threat to them.

Meanwhile, the virus has proven to be a serious danger to other, older demographic groups, especially those with underlying health problems. The roughly 20% of our Purdue community who are over 35 years old contains a significant number of people with diabetes, asthma, hypertension, and other ailments which together comprise a very high percentage of the fatal and most severe COVID-19 cases.

We will consider new policies and practices that keep these groups separate, or minimize contact between them. Literally, our students pose a far greater danger to others than the virus poses to them. We all have a role, and a responsibility, in ensuring the health of the Purdue community.

The approaches below are preliminary, meant to be illustrative of the objectives we will pursue. View them as examples, likely to be replaced by better ideas as we identify and validate them. They could include spreading out classes across days and times to reduce their size, more use of online instruction for on-campus students, virtualizing laboratory work, and similar steps. ...

We intend to know as much as possible about the viral health status of our community. This could include pre-testing of students and staff before arrival in August, for both infection and post-infection immunity through antibodies. It will include a robust testing system during the school year, using Purdue’s own BSL-2 level laboratory for fast results. Anyone showing symptoms will be tested promptly, and quarantined if positive, in space we will set aside for that purpose.

We expect to be able to trace proximate and/or frequent contacts of those who test positive. Contacts in the vulnerable categories will be asked to self-quarantine for the recommended period, currently 14 days. Those in the young, least vulnerable group will be tested, quarantined if positive, or checked regularly for symptoms if negative for both antibodies and the virus.

Again, these concepts are preliminary, intended mainly to illustrate an overall, data-driven and research-based strategy, and to invite suggestions for their modification or exclusion in favor of better actions. They will be augmented by a host of other changes, such as an indefinite prohibition on gatherings above a specified size, continued limitations on visitors to and travel away from campus, required use of face coverings and other protective equipment, frequent if not daily deep cleaning of facilities, and so forth.

Whatever its eventual components, a return-to-operations strategy is undergirded by a fundamental conviction that even a phenomenon as menacing as COVID-19 is one of the inevitable risks of life. Like most sudden and alarming developments, its dangers are graphic, expressed in tragic individual cases, and immediate; the costs of addressing it are less visible, more diffuse, and longer-term. It is a huge and daunting problem, but the Purdue way has always been to tackle problems, not hide from them.

Closing down our entire society, including our university, was a correct and necessary step. It has had invaluable results. But like any action so drastic, it has come at extraordinary costs, as much human as economic, and at some point, clearly before next fall, those will begin to vastly outweigh the benefits of its continuance. Interrupting and postponing the education of tomorrow’s leaders for another entire semester or year, is one of many such costs. So is permanently damaging the careers and lives of those who have made teaching and research their life’s work, and those who support them in that endeavor.

The COVID-19 virus will remain a fact of life this autumn. Natural immunity, which has been slowed by the shutdown, will not yet have fully developed. No vaccine can be counted on until 2021 at the soonest. It is unclear what course other schools will choose, but Purdue will employ every measure we can adopt or devise to manage this challenge with maximum safety for every member of the Boilermaker family, while proceeding with the noble and essential mission for which our institution stands.

Sincerely,

Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr.

President

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Colleges will be open this Fall. Will it be different? Sure but colleges will begin to go bankrupt quickly if students are not on campus. Housing and meals is almost 50% of their income!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...versity-campuses-staying-closed-for-fall

Message from Purdue President:
Purdue University, for its part, intends to accept students on campus in typical numbers this fall, sober about the certain problems that the COVID-19 virus represents, but determined not to surrender helplessly to those difficulties but to tackle and manage them aggressively and creatively. ...

Distance between people, that is, less density, is now the overriding societal imperative. It could be argued that a college campus will be among the most difficult places to reopen for previously regular activities.

But in other respects, a place like Purdue may be in better position to resume its mission. Our campus community, a “city” of 50,000+ people, is highly unusual in its makeup. At least 80% of our population is made up of young people, say, 35 and under. All data to date tell us that the COVID-19 virus, while it transmits rapidly in this age group, poses close to zero lethal threat to them.

Meanwhile, the virus has proven to be a serious danger to other, older demographic groups, especially those with underlying health problems. The roughly 20% of our Purdue community who are over 35 years old contains a significant number of people with diabetes, asthma, hypertension, and other ailments which together comprise a very high percentage of the fatal and most severe COVID-19 cases.

We will consider new policies and practices that keep these groups separate, or minimize contact between them. Literally, our students pose a far greater danger to others than the virus poses to them. We all have a role, and a responsibility, in ensuring the health of the Purdue community.

The approaches below are preliminary, meant to be illustrative of the objectives we will pursue. View them as examples, likely to be replaced by better ideas as we identify and validate them. They could include spreading out classes across days and times to reduce their size, more use of online instruction for on-campus students, virtualizing laboratory work, and similar steps. ...

We intend to know as much as possible about the viral health status of our community. This could include pre-testing of students and staff before arrival in August, for both infection and post-infection immunity through antibodies. It will include a robust testing system during the school year, using Purdue’s own BSL-2 level laboratory for fast results. Anyone showing symptoms will be tested promptly, and quarantined if positive, in space we will set aside for that purpose.

We expect to be able to trace proximate and/or frequent contacts of those who test positive. Contacts in the vulnerable categories will be asked to self-quarantine for the recommended period, currently 14 days. Those in the young, least vulnerable group will be tested, quarantined if positive, or checked regularly for symptoms if negative for both antibodies and the virus.

Again, these concepts are preliminary, intended mainly to illustrate an overall, data-driven and research-based strategy, and to invite suggestions for their modification or exclusion in favor of better actions. They will be augmented by a host of other changes, such as an indefinite prohibition on gatherings above a specified size, continued limitations on visitors to and travel away from campus, required use of face coverings and other protective equipment, frequent if not daily deep cleaning of facilities, and so forth.

Whatever its eventual components, a return-to-operations strategy is undergirded by a fundamental conviction that even a phenomenon as menacing as COVID-19 is one of the inevitable risks of life. Like most sudden and alarming developments, its dangers are graphic, expressed in tragic individual cases, and immediate; the costs of addressing it are less visible, more diffuse, and longer-term. It is a huge and daunting problem, but the Purdue way has always been to tackle problems, not hide from them.

Closing down our entire society, including our university, was a correct and necessary step. It has had invaluable results. But like any action so drastic, it has come at extraordinary costs, as much human as economic, and at some point, clearly before next fall, those will begin to vastly outweigh the benefits of its continuance. Interrupting and postponing the education of tomorrow’s leaders for another entire semester or year, is one of many such costs. So is permanently damaging the careers and lives of those who have made teaching and research their life’s work, and those who support them in that endeavor.

The COVID-19 virus will remain a fact of life this autumn. Natural immunity, which has been slowed by the shutdown, will not yet have fully developed. No vaccine can be counted on until 2021 at the soonest. It is unclear what course other schools will choose, but Purdue will employ every measure we can adopt or devise to manage this challenge with maximum safety for every member of the Boilermaker family, while proceeding with the noble and essential mission for which our institution stands.

Sincerely,

Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr.

President

Someone should send this letter to our Governor for consideration in opening the SUNY schools north of Westchester.

Mitch Daniels has done a great job at Purdue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mitch Daniels has done a great job at Purdue.

Then why doesn't he have Lax :-)

Manhasset moved from B to C conference.

And so it begins
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...se-program-amid-financial-concerns/56421

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset moved from B to C conference.

Finally! Now we can crush everybody.

If it wasn't already, C just got stronger and deeper than B...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And so it begins
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...se-program-amid-financial-concerns/56421

WOW ! The Big programs will be fine..the rest, i suspect case by case basis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If it wasn't already, C just got stronger and deeper than B...

No question. C is the place to be now !

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

I agree about losing part, But you could say the same thing just about any sport except Basketball and Football at most colleges.

Colleges are out of control with their spending. Sports isnt where the cuts are going to make a difference. When you have bureaucracy and salaries that most colleges offer, it is only a matter of time. Wonder how the NCAA soon allowing salaries to players will effect other sports budgets??

Start by clearing out the large administrations at these schools. Lots of salaries from $200-500k for some nonsense job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

Who knows, this never happened before. Businesses all over the world will be trimming the fat. Lax at Furman was fat I guess. Is it fat at other schools too. I don’t know. If something is a not bringing in money, university presidents may have pressure to explain the value of varsity lacrosse. 12.6 scholarships could be 800 grand in expenses at some schools. Paying a coaching staff 400 grand is another expense. Kids traveling, hotel lodging, planes, trains, buses, food, etc another expense. School insurance for a contact sport is another expense. I’m sure there is other expenses we probably don’t know about. So the question is, if something cost say 3 to 4 million a year to operate and brings in zero or very little revenue, while the school is losing millions because of this virus, would it be surprising if other programs dismantled. I’d say not that surprising.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

Lacrosse is a fun niche sport. Always has been and always will be. No matter how much we hear about " growing the game and diversity " . Has anyone seen the USL rag lately or even opened it? ..The Big " lets grow the game" is about filling different people,clubs and org pockets with money along with making them feel good . Frankly, the way it is set up now, it is almost like they want to take the fun out of it.

HS and college is where it is played. Not the pro's. Have fun while playing in youth, HS and if you are Lucky college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who knows, this never happened before. Businesses all over the world will be trimming the fat. Lax at Furman was fat I guess. Is it fat at other schools too. I don’t know. If something is a not bringing in money, university presidents may have pressure to explain the value of varsity lacrosse. 12.6 scholarships could be 800 grand in expenses at some schools. Paying a coaching staff 400 grand is another expense. Kids traveling, hotel lodging, planes, trains, buses, food, etc another expense. School insurance for a contact sport is another expense. I’m sure there is other expenses we probably don’t know about. So the question is, if something cost say 3 to 4 million a year to operate and brings in zero or very little revenue, while the school is losing millions because of this virus, would it be surprising if other programs dismantled. I’d say not that surprising.

Stony Brook Women's program next?

Women’s hoops cost the schools the most. Cut that, save a boatload of money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

This attitude is silly. I cant imagine most parents or kids and especially colleges have even a scintilla of thought that lax is LSU football or Duke basketball. However, college is just not about football and basketball. If that was the case we wouldn't have baseball, crew. cross country, fencing, golf, hockey, soccer, water polo, field hockey, gymnastics, softball, swimming, wrestling, tennis, track & field, tennis etc. Most everyone does not think lax needs to be bigger or better however why begrudge those (Paul Rabil) who try. There is a place for it just like all of these other sports. Higher learning encompasses all aspects of education and that includes theater, band, choir, AND SPORTS etc . . Getting back to the sports I just mentioned, some may make money for their schools like Penn state wrestling or Utah gymnastics but for the most part they don't. Some of them have professional status to make millions - baseball, tennis, hockey golf, soccer, etc . . and others are just olympic based for the most part - swimming, track and field (yes, some can make millions, Phelps and Bolt and others). All in all I hope colleges embrace the smaller sports and I hope the Paul Rabil's of the world try to grow the game just like Phelps did with swimming. Believe it or not there is a world wide professional league for swimming. Are millions made no but people perform their craft bc they love it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

This attitude is silly. I cant imagine most parents or kids and especially colleges have even a scintilla of thought that lax is LSU football or Duke basketball. However, college is just not about football and basketball. If that was the case we wouldn't have baseball, crew. cross country, fencing, golf, hockey, soccer, water polo, field hockey, gymnastics, softball, swimming, wrestling, tennis, track & field, tennis etc. Most everyone does not think lax needs to be bigger or better however why begrudge those (Paul Rabil) who try. There is a place for it just like all of these other sports. Higher learning encompasses all aspects of education and that includes theater, band, choir, AND SPORTS etc . . Getting back to the sports I just mentioned, some may make money for their schools like Penn state wrestling or Utah gymnastics but for the most part they don't. Some of them have professional status to make millions - baseball, tennis, hockey golf, soccer, etc . . and others are just olympic based for the most part - swimming, track and field (yes, some can make millions, Phelps and Bolt and others). All in all I hope colleges embrace the smaller sports and I hope the Paul Rabil's of the world try to grow the game just like Phelps did with swimming. Believe it or not there is a world wide professional league for swimming. Are millions made no but people perform their craft bc they love it.

Thanks Paul ! Good Luck with those jeans !

That whole long post is very accurate. Without question. However what you seem to be forgetting or not mentioning,is what’s going on in today’s world. Tuitions this spring weren’t paid in full. Summer school tuition will not be paid. Fall tuition is a maybe. Room and board hasn’t been paid. Colleges are losing multiple millions of dollars. Cost cutting will be wide spread. Like Furman with baseball and lax. There will be more Furmans in the near future, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

This attitude is silly. I cant imagine most parents or kids and especially colleges have even a scintilla of thought that lax is LSU football or Duke basketball. However, college is just not about football and basketball. If that was the case we wouldn't have baseball, crew. cross country, fencing, golf, hockey, soccer, water polo, field hockey, gymnastics, softball, swimming, wrestling, tennis, track & field, tennis etc. Most everyone does not think lax needs to be bigger or better however why begrudge those (Paul Rabil) who try. There is a place for it just like all of these other sports. Higher learning encompasses all aspects of education and that includes theater, band, choir, AND SPORTS etc . . Getting back to the sports I just mentioned, some may make money for their schools like Penn state wrestling or Utah gymnastics but for the most part they don't. Some of them have professional status to make millions - baseball, tennis, hockey golf, soccer, etc . . and others are just olympic based for the most part - swimming, track and field (yes, some can make millions, Phelps and Bolt and others). All in all I hope colleges embrace the smaller sports and I hope the Paul Rabil's of the world try to grow the game just like Phelps did with swimming. Believe it or not there is a world wide professional league for swimming. Are millions made no but people perform their craft bc they love it.

I didn't say lax can hold a candle stick to LSU football or Duke basketball. I spoke to big money donors supporting revenue sports. Like someone said, lax will always be a fun niche sport, and nothing more. And, that's okay.

Thanks Paul ! Good Luck with those jeans !

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Not in Nassau but getting off the island certainly won't be as easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Not in Nassau but getting off the island certainly won't be as easy.

Conference placement is based on school enrollment for boys. The girls have a power conference based on historical records. In the end the playoffs for both boys and girls are based on enrollment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Not in Nassau but getting off the island certainly won't be as easy.

Conference placement is based on school enrollment for boys. The girls have a power conference based on historical records. In the end the playoffs for both boys and girls are based on enrollment.

Can anyone confirm that? Where would I find the numbers?

NCAA screwed every high school class of 23, 22, 21, and 20 by allowing a 5th year of eligibility for ALL players in college NOT just seniors. This along with the hold backs makes the landscape extremely tilted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NCAA screwed every high school class of 23, 22, 21, and 20 by allowing a 5th year of eligibility for ALL players in college NOT just seniors. This along with the hold backs makes the landscape extremely tilted.

we just have to roll with it

I would think very few players will stay at the same school for their 5th year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Not in Nassau but getting off the island certainly won't be as easy.

Conference placement is based on school enrollment for boys. The girls have a power conference based on historical records. In the end the playoffs for both boys and girls are based on enrollment.

Can anyone confirm that? Where would I find the numbers?

Really? This has been the case for decades. Conferences are enrollment based.

Corrigan Sports, Under Armour All American Lacrosse Senior Game, Inside Lacrosse

I find it shameful that you all keep posting about all the underclass games and tournaments and the teams, and leaving the info on the websites acting like the Senior Game is still going on. NOT

It has been announced on the Under Armour website saying since June 1st that the UA Senior Game is cancelled. So let all the Seniors know that it's cancelled and not to get their hopes up. You have waited over a month and a half. The 2020's missed their season and you don't even show them some love, I guess since they cant make you anymore money off them you just don't care. So get your money from the thousand of kids that are coming to the underclass tournament.

Or they are to chicken to announce it, stop thinking about how to do it and just do it.

Check it out here

https://about.underarmour.com/news/2020/03/under-armour-coronavirus-responses-and-actions

Updated June 1 at 9:00 a.m.
UPDATE ON SUMMER 2020 GRASSROOTS EVENTS
Due to the ongoing and continued developments surrounding the coronavirus COVID-19, Under Armour has made the decision to cancel the following UA events:
2020 UA All-America Football Camp Series
UAA Workout in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
UA Bigs Camp in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
Ray Lewis 52 Camp in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
Prime 21 Camp in Dallas, Texas
2020 UA All-American Lacrosse Game in Baltimore, Md.
2020 UA All-American Baseball Game in Baltimore, Md.
2020 UA Association Girls and Boys circuit

Due to the ongoing and continued developments surrounding the coronavirus COVID-19, Under Armour has made the decision to cancel, but the UNDERCALSS Tournament is bringing kids from all over the country amid all the developments. I forgot its the MONEY. They foot the bill for the seniors and the underclass pays.

JUNE 1st! Grow a set and announce it!

THIS IS SHAMEFUL

People in Maryland do not care that players from 50 states will be arriving in Maryland in two weeks
Maryland spike of over 900 new covid cases in last 24 hours, mostly younger people.
Lee Corrigan who runs UA underclass games and Steve Stenerson CEO of US Lacrosse are on MD reopening group.
Corrigan makes his money off the tryout fees and game.
US Lacrosse Makes money from Corrigan advertising.
There is no way they cancel, toooooo much $'s.
The IWLCA stood up to Corrigan but US Lac and Inside Lax will not because there is toooooo much $$$$$$$$$$$$'s.

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

Most of the kids will Move. They are not going to just stay in College to Play Lacrosse.

You can’t travel out of state safely to any event with the virus infection rate being so high right now. Money needs to be put aside and focus on the health of our society. I heard they canceled the Connecticut tournament this weekend because of safety issues and reduced capacities at fields.

https://about.underarmour.com/news/2020/03/under-armour-coronavirus-responses-and-actions

They cancelled the senior game but they will not announce it. That's my issue they have no balls to announce it.

They are for sure having the underclass tournament.

yes they will

yes they will its already happening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NCAA screwed every high school class of 23, 22, 21, and 20 by allowing a 5th year of eligibility for ALL players in college NOT just seniors. This along with the hold backs makes the landscape extremely tilted.

we just have to roll with it

Agreed...and since we all know that athletic scholarships for lacrosse are pretty meager, how may parents are going to foot the bill for another year of college...sure, it makes sense for a kid like Michael Sowers who is probably not paying a dime at Duke, but that is definitely one of the few exceptions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

just move on then. Why wait? It's over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

just move on then. Why wait? It's over.

Because you get into a MBA program you normally wouldn't and have some of it paid for...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

just move on then. Why wait? It's over.

Because you get into a MBA program you normally wouldn't and have some of it paid for...

Paid by whom? My son isn't getting any money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

just move on then. Why wait? It's over.

Because you get into a MBA program you normally wouldn't and have some of it paid for...

Paid by whom? My son isn't getting any money.

Sorry not sure what happened to the quote but it was meant for

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the kids will Move. They are not going to just stay in College to Play Lacrosse.

Schools are allowed to carry more scholarships as well next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can’t travel out of state safely to any event with the virus infection rate being so high right now. Money needs to be put aside and focus on the health of our society. I heard they canceled the Connecticut tournament this weekend because of safety issues and reduced capacities at fields.

The infection rate is very low all across the north east. Just over 1% in NY and close to that in Ct and just under 1% in NJ. If not now, then when?

So what's the story with Long Island UA tryouts? Are they happening, if not what's the new date? Is it worth it or is just another year of political BS, this time with AA Igloo owner and SWR coach MT? Will either county allows full a contact tryout or will Under Armour be an Under the Radar virtual and political selection of boys?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the story with Long Island UA tryouts? Are they happening, if not what's the new date? Is it worth it or is just another year of political BS, this time with AA Igloo owner and SWR coach MT? Will either county allows full a contact tryout or will Under Armour be an Under the Radar virtual and political selection of boys?

It's happening on Wednesday, even if the tournament doesn't happen, is still the most important event of the summer. Always politics, but still worthwhile!

Even if NYS doesn't allow contact lacrosse?

Eclipse, Tri-State, LXC, Team 91 LI and BBL all listed on Tourney Machine for this weekend's Crab Feast tournament in Maryland. Anyone got the scoop on how this is supposed to happen?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse, Tri-State, LXC, Team 91 LI and BBL all listed on Tourney Machine for this weekend's Crab Feast tournament in Maryland. Anyone got the scoop on how this is supposed to happen?

Quarantine upon return.

US canceled 😡. Are we getting a refund? Pissed they got me for that useless US Lacrosse membership!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse, Tri-State, LXC, Team 91 LI and BBL all listed on Tourney Machine for this weekend's Crab Feast tournament in Maryland. Anyone got the scoop on how this is supposed to happen?

My son is on 91 and we were pulled from the tournament weeks ago. We are playing LXC and Express North this week, and they are arranging other video taped "scrimmages" for us in NJ and CT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse, Tri-State, LXC, Team 91 LI and BBL all listed on Tourney Machine for this weekend's Crab Feast tournament in Maryland. Anyone got the scoop on how this is supposed to happen?

Quarantine upon return.

Or almost certainly, not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the story with Long Island UA tryouts? Are they happening, if not what's the new date? Is it worth it or is just another year of political BS, this time with AA Igloo owner and SWR coach MT? Will either county allows full a contact tryout or will Under Armour be an Under the Radar virtual and political selection of boys?

It's happening on Wednesday, even if the tournament doesn't happen, is still the most important event of the summer. Always politics, but still worthwhile!

Wednesday tryout is cancelled indefinitely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the story with Long Island UA tryouts? Are they happening, if not what's the new date? Is it worth it or is just another year of political BS, this time with AA Igloo owner and SWR coach MT? Will either county allows full a contact tryout or will Under Armour be an Under the Radar virtual and political selection of boys?

It's happening on Wednesday, even if the tournament doesn't happen, is still the most important event of the summer. Always politics, but still worthwhile!

Wednesday tryout is cancelled indefinitely.

instagram - cselax
‪🚨🚨Due to State and local restrictions, we’ll be postponing both New York regional tryouts. The @Corrigan_Sports team is working diligently to come up with a new tryout date. Stay on our social media channels for updates‬

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US canceled 😡. Are we getting a refund? Pissed they got me for that useless US Lacrosse membership!

Not only useless,,They are over run with pandering people who think every issue should be a social justice issue instead of sticking to lacrosse. Dropping membership as quick as I can.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the story with Long Island UA tryouts? Are they happening, if not what's the new date? Is it worth it or is just another year of political BS, this time with AA Igloo owner and SWR coach MT? Will either county allows full a contact tryout or will Under Armour be an Under the Radar virtual and political selection of boys?

It's happening on Wednesday, even if the tournament doesn't happen, is still the most important event of the summer. Always politics, but still worthwhile!

Wednesday tryout is cancelled indefinitely.

instagram - cselax
‪🚨🚨Due to State and local restrictions, we’ll be postponing both New York regional tryouts. The @Corrigan_Sports team is working diligently to come up with a new tryout date. Stay on our social media channels for updates‬

At least now they will pick the team like they do every year. Coaches already know who will be on the team, this year there will be no illusion that they are actual tryouts. Poor Corrigan wont get all that tryout money?? or will they ??? LOL.

What is the reclass rules in NYS once a player has started HS? Meaning a student does 11th grade twice, is 11th grade, the second time around the last year of eligibility? Is it 4 years or 4 consecutive years?

4 years of eligibility once you enter 9th grade---can't re-class in HS --unless you leave HS for a prep school. Most re-class happens in MS or kids start Kindergarten late. The football hot bed states made it common for students to repeat 8th grade ---

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4 years of eligibility once you enter 9th grade---can't re-class in HS --unless you leave HS for a prep school. Most re-class happens in MS or kids start Kindergarten late. The football hot bed states made it common for students to repeat 8th grade ---

So if you repeat a grade, you can’t participate senior year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4 years of eligibility once you enter 9th grade---can't re-class in HS --unless you leave HS for a prep school. Most re-class happens in MS or kids start Kindergarten late. The football hot bed states made it common for students to repeat 8th grade ---

So if you repeat a grade, you can’t participate senior year.

Only if you repeat during High School years. ..Repeating 8th still gets you 4 years in High School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4 years of eligibility once you enter 9th grade---can't re-class in HS --unless you leave HS for a prep school. Most re-class happens in MS or kids start Kindergarten late. The football hot bed states made it common for students to repeat 8th grade ---

So if you repeat a grade, you can’t participate senior year.

Only if you repeat during High School years. ..Repeating 8th still gets you 4 years in High School

incorrect.. The rules state you get 6 consecutive years in HS athletics, but only if you start in 7th grade, 5 years if 8th grade, 4 in 9th. You cannot start varsity in 7th and then repeat a grade to reclass for HS. Reclass in 6th grade.. you cant play anyway.

So any HS player that repeats for goes his senior year because of 4 years of consecutive eligibility. They should change that with Covid. I would have my son reclass, since all the college rosters will be jammed thanks their ruling

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So any HS player that repeats for goes his senior year because of 4 years of consecutive eligibility. They should change that with Covid. I would have my son reclass, since all the college rosters will be jammed thanks their ruling

College rosters won't be jammed when you're paying 70k per year for zoom classes.

Northport Head Coach resigned....that should help them out. He was not the best coach for the talent in that town

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

Any word on Under Armour Tryouts? Turnout? Rosters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

The guy that runs 24 lacrosse is trying to get one going. Not sure which teams he has lined up if any. Islandlaxleague.com.

Yeah - looks like they added Nassau fields to their site info today. That's what prompted me to ask about Nassau before they added this - the Suffolk fields were just too far to do every week.

Did kids skip UA LI Highlight tryouts? Some names you would expect to be there aren't and vice versa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did kids skip UA LI Highlight tryouts? Some names you would expect to be there aren't and vice versa.

Its not a real UA this year. Bc of Covid and rescheduling etc...they have having 4 brackets and then win that bracket u go to something down south with the 4 teams remaining. LI will play NE and Upstate in a tourney but that hasn't been announced yet. I think bc of the delay parents are saying schools about to start its time to move on and in the event our child makes the team when and where is the next round. A complete *******. just my opinion though.

Pretty disgusting that 8/10 of the top ten '22s are holdbacks! A shame parents are so insecure that they can't let their kids play their own age. Very sad for the sport. Congratulations to the two on age kids! Glad some can still represent the sport authentically. To the rest, you will be routed against be me for being cheaters. Sometimes in life you need to stand up for what's right, and not sleazy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty disgusting that 8/10 of the top ten '22s are holdbacks! A shame parents are so insecure that they can't let their kids play their own age. Very sad for the sport. Congratulations to the two on age kids! Glad some can still represent the sport authentically. To the rest, you will be routed against be me for being cheaters. Sometimes in life you need to stand up for what's right, and not sleazy

Maybe I misread, but I though 6 out of 10 were born after 9/1/2003. I think most holdback issues are with kids like the 2002 bday. After sept 1 is on age in a lot of areas, and the cutoff which was used for WSYL so you shouldn’t cry about those kids.

It is a real shame how COVID has hurt the recruiting for the 2021 players. There are many quality players who haven’t committed or took a D3 offer because many D1 programs aren’t making decisions. The One Percent Showcase had great talent that isn’t committed yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is a real shame how COVID has hurt the recruiting for the 2021 players. There are many quality players who haven’t committed or took a D3 offer because many D1 programs aren’t making decisions. The One Percent Showcase had great talent that isn’t committed yet.

100% agree, great talent at the showcase. Affecting 2022's too. Won't be normal for 2023 either. D1 or D3, who cares?

Get a commit from a great school and move on, if D1 is frozen, make that their problem, not your child's problem.

What happened to the dream team? #1 coach and #1 recruit couldn’t get the job done? Hmmmm

2020s had (have) it pretty bad too. Their senior season was canceled...2021s may still get one. Oh and college rosters are jam packed with fifth year eligibility kids and transfers due to NCAA giving everyone another year. And they can’t fully practice AND not clear if there will even be a spring collegiate lacrosse season. So while it is tough for 2021s, for sure, the truth is COVID has seriously hurt multiple classes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the dream team? #1 coach and #1 recruit couldn’t get the job done? Hmmmm

I think most would say it’s working out pretty well for them. So zip it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020s had (have) it pretty bad too. Their senior season was canceled...2021s may still get one. Oh and college rosters are jam packed with fifth year eligibility kids and transfers due to NCAA giving everyone another year. And they can’t fully practice AND not clear if there will even be a spring collegiate lacrosse season. So while it is tough for 2021s, for sure, the truth is COVID has seriously hurt multiple classes.

Not getting better either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

How was the event in Hicksville yesterday?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

How was the event in Hicksville yesterday?

Which event was that???

It was cold and miserable , and I enjoyed every minute of it watching lax again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

How was the event in Hicksville yesterday?

Which event was that???

Big 16

Yes was cold and overcast yesterday in fall classic NJ but tolerable. They ran 3 fields only all day close together and got to see alot of great lacrosse. 5 divisions ( A,B,C,D,E) of 4 teams Per . There were 2 divisions that particularly stood out A in morning and C in afternoon and of those yielded 3 Teams that stood out above the rest LAXHAWKS ( Darien HS) CT, SMITHTOWN BLUE ( HS WEST ) LI , and MUSTANGS ( MOUNT SINAI HS) LI with BIG RED LC from Mass. a distant 4th and WARD MELVILLE LI a very distant 5th. POMFRET CT , BAYPORT BLUE POINT LI and SMITHTOWN RED ( HS EAST) LI played in much weaker Divisions and made it difficult to assess were they stand. All in all I had a terrific time. I am sure the BIG 16 was equally great to watch. Now I hope we have a season! Good luck to all the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes was cold and overcast yesterday in fall classic NJ but tolerable. They ran 3 fields only all day close together and got to see alot of great lacrosse. 5 divisions ( A,B,C,D,E) of 4 teams Per . There were 2 divisions that particularly stood out A in morning and C in afternoon and of those yielded 3 Teams that stood out above the rest LAXHAWKS ( Darien HS) CT, SMITHTOWN BLUE ( HS WEST ) LI , and MUSTANGS ( MOUNT SINAI HS) LI with BIG RED LC from Mass. a distant 4th and WARD MELVILLE LI a very distant 5th. POMFRET CT , BAYPORT BLUE POINT LI and SMITHTOWN RED ( HS EAST) LI played in much weaker Divisions and made it difficult to assess were they stand. All in all I had a terrific time. I am sure the BIG 16 was equally great to watch. Now I hope we have a season! Good luck to all the players.

If there is a season, what will Suffolk A look like? Top four?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on any fall leagues for Nassau?

How was the event in Hicksville yesterday?

Which event was that???

Big 16

Can't find anything on how the event went. Did the event get played? Our HS team didn't get the invite, not a shock since nobody plays for the organizer. Just interested to hear how if the competition was worthwhile and the kids are staying in shape.

Good event. Safely run. Nice not to leave island. Good competition/Close games. Kids staying in shape.

NYSAAA@NYSAAA6
What if there was a travel team that taught character, accountability, ethics, and service? Who would pay for that? Answer...you already do, it’s your public HS sports team. #WeInvestInKids
This is from NYSAAA twitter account. Someones feeling irrelevant.

New High School winter league starting up at Stony Brook, anyone know which HS are signing up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New High School winter league starting up at Stony Brook, anyone know which HS are signing up

It's not 10 vs 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

New High School winter league starting up at Stony Brook, anyone know which HS are signing up

It's not 10 vs 10

It IS 10 v 10 full field Son practices in there it is a full sized field

Great event today at Cedar Creek Park ---Long Island Lax Showcase Fall Final----very organized ---mixed level of competition--fun--all kids played 3 games--games were live streamed ---my son loved it---played against some of his club teammates and some of his HS teammates---the coaches did a super job---plus the weather was perfect-last event for my kid for a while----let's hope we can figure this out and play a HS season in April.

6 thousand dollars per team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 thousand dollars per team

WHAT$$$$$$$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 thousand dollars per team

To which league or event are you referring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 thousand dollars per team

WHAT$$$$$$$$

That is less than some HS Coaches charge for tournaments held at their HS.

How do you get info about showcase teams, what teams are from this area?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6 thousand dollars per team

WHAT$$$$$$$$

That is less than some HS Coaches charge for tournaments held at their HS.

Have any teams signed up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great event today at Cedar Creek Park ---Long Island Lax Showcase Fall Final----very organized ---mixed level of competition--fun--all kids played 3 games--games were live streamed ---my son loved it---played against some of his club teammates and some of his HS teammates---the coaches did a super job---plus the weather was perfect-last event for my kid for a while----let's hope we can figure this out and play a HS season in April.

Agreed great weather and a well run event. Unfortunately no exposure for the kids not yet committed but at least they got to play. Parents overall were great except for a few stunands who just don't understand that NO PLAYER OR PROSPECTIVE COACH EVER WANTS TO HEAR A PARENT YELLING AT A KID FROM THE SIDELINE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]New High School winter league starting up at Stony Brook, anyone know which HS are signing up

6k per team - nah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]New High School winter league starting up at Stony Brook, anyone know which HS are signing up

6k per team - nah

20 HS teams have signed up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great event today at Cedar Creek Park ---Long Island Lax Showcase Fall Final----very organized ---mixed level of competition--fun--all kids played 3 games--games were live streamed ---my son loved it---played against some of his club teammates and some of his HS teammates---the coaches did a super job---plus the weather was perfect-last event for my kid for a while----let's hope we can figure this out and play a HS season in April.

Agreed great weather and a well run event. Unfortunately no exposure for the kids not yet committed but at least they got to play. Parents overall were great except for a few stunands who just don't understand that NO PLAYER OR PROSPECTIVE COACH EVER WANTS TO HEAR A PARENT YELLING AT A KID FROM THE SIDELINE.

all of the games played were live streamed to college coaches and the film is available to the college coaches --I know of a few kids that received some interest from the games played --plus film was available to the players for an extra fee----it is what it is---.... another opportunity to play on film for future recruiting--------agreed about the parents-----truth with recruiting ----the parents go with the player ---not recruiting fallacy, kids have been dropped bc of crazy parents and kids have been dropped because of poor social media profiles ---truth not myth. As for uncommitted '22s---keep playing, training and acquiring more good film ---there is always room for talented players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great event today at Cedar Creek Park ---Long Island Lax Showcase Fall Final----very organized ---mixed level of competition--fun--all kids played 3 games--games were live streamed ---my son loved it---played against some of his club teammates and some of his HS teammates---the coaches did a super job---plus the weather was perfect-last event for my kid for a while----let's hope we can figure this out and play a HS season in April.

Agreed great weather and a well run event. Unfortunately no exposure for the kids not yet committed but at least they got to play. Parents overall were great except for a few stunands who just don't understand that NO PLAYER OR PROSPECTIVE COACH EVER WANTS TO HEAR A PARENT YELLING AT A KID FROM THE SIDELINE.

all of the games played were live streamed to college coaches and the film is available to the college coaches --I know of a few kids that received some interest from the games played --plus film was available to the players for an extra fee----it is what it is---.... another opportunity to play on film for future recruiting--------agreed about the parents-----truth with recruiting ----the parents go with the player ---not recruiting fallacy, kids have been dropped bc of crazy parents and kids have been dropped because of poor social media profiles ---truth not myth. As for uncommitted '22s---keep playing, training and acquiring more good film ---there is always room for talented players

Truth. Advice from a former player and coach. Parents; sit there, stop coaching, support the entire team not just your kid and be glad they're out there. I am amazed at how bad the parents behavior has gotten on the sidelines of youth sports.

I also have a question about Showcases (e.g., Main Stage, Juniors Open, Five Star, etc). From what I see on social media, a lot of very talented and deserving players get invited. I also notice numerous players, just as talented, never get invited. First, Im not talking about my own kid. My kid is in third grade. Im asking as I coach club in a non-hotbed area and parents ask me all the time how to get their kid invited - hence my question to you all. It seems it is not just talent that matters but connections. Politics. Anyone that can provide helpful opinions as to the selection process would be appreciated. Do they just look at Under Armour teams and start With that list to invite? Also, in a COVID world, is a lack of invites to said showcases going to significantly reduce someone's chance of being recruited? Or do they not carry that much weight and more of a money grab/fun experience?Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I also have a question about Showcases (e.g., Main Stage, Juniors Open, Five Star, etc). From what I see on social media, a lot of very talented and deserving players get invited. I also notice numerous players, just as talented, never get invited. First, Im not talking about my own kid. My kid is in third grade. Im asking as I coach club in a non-hotbed area and parents ask me all the time how to get their kid invited - hence my question to you all. It seems it is not just talent that matters but connections. Politics. Anyone that can provide helpful opinions as to the selection process would be appreciated. Do they just look at Under Armour teams and start With that list to invite? Also, in a COVID world, is a lack of invites to said showcases going to significantly reduce someone's chance of being recruited? Or do they not carry that much weight and more of a money grab/fun experience?Thank you

It's a combination of everything from my expiernce. Talent Matters, Connections Matter!!! If you have a kid with top teir talent and send a video in, chances are they will take him. The top showcases want as many top kids as they can get. It's also who you know and who is running the showcase. If there are a few kids who are equal or just about equal they will take who they know. As for money grabs... it's all opinion. What's a money grab to one may be of value to another. At the end of the day it is all about making money for all these showcases. Remember, the college coaches get paid to attend most of these showcases.
Everyone will have different opinions but it comes down to being seen. doesn't matter how they see your kid, as long as they see him. Right now everything is video.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I also have a question about Showcases (e.g., Main Stage, Juniors Open, Five Star, etc). From what I see on social media, a lot of very talented and deserving players get invited. I also notice numerous players, just as talented, never get invited. First, Im not talking about my own kid. My kid is in third grade. Im asking as I coach club in a non-hotbed area and parents ask me all the time how to get their kid invited - hence my question to you all. It seems it is not just talent that matters but connections. Politics. Anyone that can provide helpful opinions as to the selection process would be appreciated. Do they just look at Under Armour teams and start With that list to invite? Also, in a COVID world, is a lack of invites to said showcases going to significantly reduce someone's chance of being recruited? Or do they not carry that much weight and more of a money grab/fun experience?Thank you

It's a combination of everything from my expiernce. Talent Matters, Connections Matter!!! If you have a kid with top teir talent and send a video in, chances are they will take him. The top showcases want as many top kids as they can get. It's also who you know and who is running the showcase. If there are a few kids who are equal or just about equal they will take who they know. As for money grabs... it's all opinion. What's a money grab to one may be of value to another. At the end of the day it is all about making money for all these showcases. Remember, the college coaches get paid to attend most of these showcases.
Everyone will have different opinions but it comes down to being seen. doesn't matter how they see your kid, as long as they see him. Right now everything is video.

Agreed. The UnD1sputed Showcase is also another right here on the island.

But for those looking to do a showcase this winter and be seen via video by d1 scouts and in person top d2/3 colleges, the NY Showcase seems like a good event.

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

MONEY GRABBBBBB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

MONEY GRABBBBBB

With no HS sports going on this was a great idea at least the boys have some kind of league to participate in, why is it a money grab, if you don't like the price don't sign up. Always someone who tries to make everything be a negative.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

MONEY GRABBBBBB

Money grab? Really?
There’s always a few people who have to say ridiculous things like this. Usually they are the same ones sitting on their couches and never helping or being useful.
Kudos to the Stony Brook staff for offering a positive experience for players during this dark time.

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

MONEY GRABBBBBB

Money grab? Really?
There’s always a few people who have to say ridiculous things like this. Usually they are the same ones sitting on their couches and never helping or being useful.
Kudos to the Stony Brook staff for offering a positive experience for players during this dark time.

I may be wrong but this league isn’t run but stony Brook. It’s run by the owners of flg. They simply rented out the space at stony brook. At 6k a team this was designed to make a lot of money. Let’s not act like this was a volunteer trying to give the high schools some extra lax

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Todays HS games at Stonybrook got canceled

Well at least the boys got a week in. I guess you have to be outside to practice this winter.

Did they find a new location?

There trying to move the games outdoors, seeing how many teams will continue.

MONEY GRABBBBBB

Money grab? Really?
There’s always a few people who have to say ridiculous things like this. Usually they are the same ones sitting on their couches and never helping or being useful.
Kudos to the Stony Brook staff for offering a positive experience for players during this dark time.

Well said, agreed 100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

You were told exactly what you were getting when you signed up.

This was not run by the stonybrook staff. It is run by FLG, once you know that, you will know why it’s a money grab. This should be cancelled, they are jamming it in a few days after Xmas so they can pocket the money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

You were told exactly what you were getting when you signed up.

Wrong. We were told we were getting a seven week season. Not 7 games in 3 days during Xmas break. This is about ensuring they don’t have to return money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

You were told exactly what you were getting when you signed up.

Wrong. We were told we were getting a seven week season. Not 7 games in 3 days during Xmas break. This is about ensuring they don’t have to return money.

When you signed up for this league, whatever it's called. Why didn't you consider the time we live in at the moment. Stop forking over your hard-earned money towards something that is a BIG ZERO during these uncertain times. I bet the program director knew this exact scenario was down the road when he accepted your money. Stop being at the mercy of these people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

You were told exactly what you were getting when you signed up.

Wrong. We were told we were getting a seven week season. Not 7 games in 3 days during Xmas break. This is about ensuring they don’t have to return money.

20 out of the 21 high school teams that signed up chose to continue on and play during Xmas break, the 1 team that chose not to play will get their money back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

It doesn’t matter. Sign your kid up or don’t. Your choice. It’s still an opportunity to play. If it was not offered someone would [ChillLaxin] that there’s no opportunities to play!

Agreed. But if your paying a lot of money for something and you don’t like what your getting you have every right to call it a money grab

You were told exactly what you were getting when you signed up.

Wrong. We were told we were getting a seven week season. Not 7 games in 3 days during Xmas break. This is about ensuring they don’t have to return money.

Put this in perspective. My son lost his Junior Season, his summer of recruiting in front of D1 schools and they may not get a chance to play their senior season. When I signed up for this league I knew there was a good chance Cuomo or the local government would put a stop to it. I’m grateful to the league for making sure they are able to play, and these boys will have one last shot of playing with their friends who they have been playing with since they were 4. They had a blast today, and all I saw was smiles from, all the players, winners and losers. For some of these boys it is the last shot for them to be recruited. So be thankful that these kids have something to do besides playing video games.

Was great today and kids can’t wait for tomorrow

I love how the FLG son has anointed himself as some sort of industry expert......What a complete joke! He wouldn't recognize lacrosse talent if it hit him in the head. Several kids FLG cut in my son's year ended up going Ivy or Top 10 D1. Kids who stayed and were treated as superstars by FLG ultimately went very low D1, low D3 or nowhere at all. Run away!!!

My son went to a tryout early summer and it was a joke! Dads were coaching, kids could barely catch and throw! Blew us off, totally un professional! Now he plays for a top team and very close to making a commitment to a top D1 school!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was great today and kids can’t wait for tomorrow

Amen to that. There have been hiccups, and the stats may not be 100% accurate, but they are having fun and have something to look forward to every day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love how the FLG son has anointed himself as some sort of industry expert......What a complete joke! He wouldn't recognize lacrosse talent if it hit him in the head. Several kids FLG cut in my son's year ended up going Ivy or Top 10 D1. Kids who stayed and were treated as superstars by FLG ultimately went very low D1, low D3 or nowhere at all. Run away!!!

Anointed Himself as the industry expert to those who agree with him. FLG is all about marketing. Papa Bear and Baby Bear are trying their best to capitalize on this sport, sprinkled with a little Harlem Lacrosse to help them along the way. Once your kid decides or thinks which direction they want to move right after [ChillLaxin].S., if lax fits that bill and the director or coach of the travel organization can help reach those goals, fine, use them to get what you want. 91 and Express are the best at marketing their college commits.

Can anybody give constructive feedback on the Villanova 150 Showcase? I know that they didn't have the event in 2020 but they just posted 2021 dates. Anybody have experience with the event back in 2017-2019? Wondering if it's worth signing my son up for it.

It’s ran by the Villanova staff so be careful with these types of events. They are mostly their prospect days, but they get other coaches to attend also and is in the format of a camp. So although they are advertising 15 coaches who attended in the past, I would ask if they were all there at the same time or did they just show up for an hour or so to get paid and list it on their site...

If you are looking for a strong D1 showcase that I know Nova attended a couple of years ago, try the College Bound Laxers UnD1sputed Showcase here on the island.

Originally Posted by NassauLaxDad516

It’s ran by the Villanova staff so be careful with these types of events. They are mostly their prospect days, but they get other coaches to attend also and is in the format of a camp. So although they are advertising 15 coaches who attended in the past, I would ask if they were all there at the same time or did they just show up for an hour or so to get paid and list it on their site...

If you are looking for a strong D1 showcase that I know Nova attended a couple of years ago, try the College Bound Laxers UnD1sputed Showcase here on the island.

If realistic academically, also try Prep Lax Showcase in Greenwich. Very well run and all the Ivy and NESCACs are there. Fab Frosh/Super Sophs at Wesleyan usually also pulls in a ton of good schools. I also think the various Philly Showcase and Lax Masters events are good....

How much do these showcases matter in the scheme of things? Are kids actually getting recruited based on their performance in these events or are these mostly money grabs? Are college coaches more focused on club based recruiting tournaments or can kids get recruited just from these showcases?

Asking bc I’m sick of the club game. My son’s with one of the bigger LI clubs that isn’t 91 or Express. We didn’t get any refund last year and this year they loaded up the roster and charged the same amount. Thinking about signing him up for a bunch of individual showcases next summer and quitting the club before I have to give another payment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much do these showcases matter in the scheme of things? Are kids actually getting recruited based on their performance in these events or are these mostly money grabs? Are college coaches more focused on club based recruiting tournaments or can kids get recruited just from these showcases?

Asking bc I’m sick of the club game. My son’s with one of the bigger LI clubs that isn’t 91 or Express. We didn’t get any refund last year and this year they loaded up the roster and charged the same amount. Thinking about signing him up for a bunch of individual showcases next summer and quitting the club before I have to give another payment.

Showcases are absolutely a great way to be seen by a plethora of colleges, especially from ones that your child is interested in. Also, what I like about showcases is that they are small, boutique and the coaches can really focus in on the 80-160 players versus a tournament which may have 100 colleges in attendance but spread across 15 fields. I am not saying tournaments are not worth it bc I think they are absolutely are (especially depending on what club team you play for). I hope this helps and feel free to ask any other questions.

Word to the wise, I'm not promoting travel but if your son is gonna get recruited he better be playing for a club big or small!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Word to the wise, I'm not promoting travel but if your son is gonna get recruited he better be playing for a club big or small!

Unfortunately, I agree. The degree to which you need to do showcases will depend on two other things: (1) the strength of the club team; and (2) to a lesser extent, the high school your son plays for. Stronger the club and HS, the less need there is to do showcases. Showtime was always considered the best showcase, but the invitations were locked up by the big clubs and politically connected coaches. People on here will complain about UA, but that has historically been packed with coaches and provided awesome exposure. LI tends not to do great, but your kid will get seen, so don't listen to the naysayers. Finally, the only way any of this works is if your kid is emailing coaches consistently and letting them know where he will be playing. Include pinney # and schedule in your email. Even at showcases, you cannot assume you will be seen unless you notify them in advance. Highly recommend Sportsrecruits. It is very easy to use and lets you know when coaches open emails and watch highlight videos. Bottom line is that the top 100 kids in each year get chased. Everyone else needs to aggressively market themselves. Good luck!!

Has anyone heard anything new about next year. I'm still hearing 10 game in conference only schedule and nothing else. Anyone hear different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Word to the wise, I'm not promoting travel but if your son is gonna get recruited he better be playing for a club big or small!

Unfortunately, I agree. The degree to which you need to do showcases will depend on two other things: (1) the strength of the club team; and (2) to a lesser extent, the high school your son plays for. Stronger the club and HS, the less need there is to do showcases. Showtime was always considered the best showcase, but the invitations were locked up by the big clubs and politically connected coaches. People on here will complain about UA, but that has historically been packed with coaches and provided awesome exposure. LI tends not to do great, but your kid will get seen, so don't listen to the naysayers. Finally, the only way any of this works is if your kid is emailing coaches consistently and letting them know where he will be playing. Include pinney # and schedule in your email. Even at showcases, you cannot assume you will be seen unless you notify them in advance. Highly recommend Sportsrecruits. It is very easy to use and lets you know when coaches open emails and watch highlight videos. Bottom line is that the top 100 kids in each year get chased. Everyone else needs to aggressively market themselves. Good luck!!

These are very different times. My son was talking to 3 top 25 D1 teams. When the spring season was cancelled, they all slowed down. One of them made us feel like they were making an offer in September. But once they extended the dead period, they all passed on him and offered to do a PG year. He played on a good travel program, we went to the school prospect camps that he was interested in and did the prospect camps. A D2 school came out of nowhere and made him an offer that he expected. He didn’t want to play for a D1 program that had no chance of winning anything. I would still stick to the plan of going to the schools your son is interested in first. If you see one of those schools will be at a showcase then go to that too.

Every experience is different I guess! My son is a late bloomer to the summer off to grow only went to three fall tounneys with his travel team and we have already had several D1 coaches contact us. I have no idea how they found my kid?

Is there a Winter League for HS and or Clubs taking place on the island?

"I love how the FLG son has anointed himself as some sort of industry expert......What a complete joke! He wouldn't recognize lacrosse talent if it hit him in the head. Several kids FLG cut in my son's year ended up going Ivy or Top 10 D1. Kids who stayed and were treated as superstars by FLG ultimately went very low D1, low D3 or nowhere at all. Run away!!!"

Spoiled Manhasset dad still bitter... Glad it all seemed to work out, for those that stayed and those that left or were cut.

Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase.

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I love how the FLG son has anointed himself as some sort of industry expert......What a complete joke! He wouldn't recognize lacrosse talent if it hit him in the head. Several kids FLG cut in my son's year ended up going Ivy or Top 10 D1. Kids who stayed and were treated as superstars by FLG ultimately went very low D1, low D3 or nowhere at all. Run away!!!"

Spoiled Manhasset dad still bitter... Glad it all seemed to work out, for those that stayed and those that left or were cut.

Speaking of Manhasset, what’s the connection with P. family and FLG/ LILJ. Other than rumored ownership, is there any reason to be writing up the 22’ before they played 1 minute of varsity lacrosse and now the 24’ before they've even played JV.

This was written about hockey tryouts but could easily be lacrosse. Raise your hand if you recognize yourself.
https://www.si.com/hockey/features/...m=SI%20Extra%20-%20USE%20THIS%20-%20List

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Ya I am complaining. Spam mail and recruiting are 2 different things dummy. That's what parents do, protect their kids. Identity theft is real, google it. Seems to me the showcases shouldn't be selling minors information. If we want information on a school for a kid we can figure out how to get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was written about hockey tryouts but could easily be lacrosse. Raise your hand if you recognize yourself.
https://www.si.com/hockey/features/...m=SI%20Extra%20-%20USE%20THIS%20-%20List

Truth!! I have known 70% of the kids at my sons tryouts for the past few years.. The author hits the nail on the head!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Ya I am complaining. Spam mail and recruiting are 2 different things dummy. That's what parents do, protect their kids. Identity theft is real, google it. Seems to me the showcases shouldn't be selling minors information. If we want information on a school for a kid we can figure out how to get it.

My oldest did not play travel sports and got those same college Solicitations. Don’t know where they come from. I think the high schools sends Information to Schools they believe the students grades would give them a fair chance of getting accepted. I have never confirmed this. I do not think it is a showcase selling the information. Just some advice, my son is a Division I lacrosse player. My advice is go to as many showcases as possible. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Ya I am complaining. Spam mail and recruiting are 2 different things dummy. That's what parents do, protect their kids. Identity theft is real, google it. Seems to me the showcases shouldn't be selling minors information. If we want information on a school for a kid we can figure out how to get it.

My oldest did not play travel sports and got those same college Solicitations. Don’t know where they come from. I think the high schools sends Information to Schools they believe the students grades would give them a fair chance of getting accepted. I have never confirmed this. I do not think it is a showcase selling the information. Just some advice, my son is a Division I lacrosse player. My advice is go to as many showcases as possible. Good luck.

You could be right. My son is only a Sophmore so I thought it was a little fishy that I signed him up for a showcase and within 10 days my mailbox got flooded with College mail. And it was addressed to him. Don't know how else they would have gotten his information other then the information I filled out in the showcase registration.

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

Maturity at its finest.

LOL...Go dad...get a life guy "My son is tougher than yours". What a joke. Good luck in states...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Ya I am complaining. Spam mail and recruiting are 2 different things dummy. That's what parents do, protect their kids. Identity theft is real, google it. Seems to me the showcases shouldn't be selling minors information. If we want information on a school for a kid we can figure out how to get it.

This must be your eldest child. Just wait, your mailbox will be filled for the next year with solicitations. College is big business, they don't need your kids info from lax. They have your son's info from DMV, all the testing companies, your Google searches and your school district. These colleges may or may not want your kid. They do want him to apply though!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

What are the chances this guy force feeds his kid protein shakes?.....SMH.

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck at Harvard...sorry to hear Limestone reached out to you. Kid will probably be long done with lax by the time he gets to college and will be on the all-edible team.

Na, he will probably be on the wrestling team. Pretty sure he would take your speedbag kid and having him crying to his mommy and daddy in about 8 seconds.

Maturity at its finest.

Coming from someone who's occupation is listed as a politician. Seeing how you would like to be a part of the discussion please enlighten us common folk as a politician, how in today's environment politicians can vote to donate billions/trillions of our taxpayer dollars to foreign countries while Americans are losing their jobs, homes and businesses? And I know parents on my kids lacrosse teams who have been out of work due to the government imposed COVID lockdowns that seem to only apply to Non-politicans(IE Cuomo allows fans to Bills game so he can go). Please explain to them how you are taking the taxes they pay on the little bit of money they get from unemployment and give it to foreign countries instead of to Americans who need it.

P.S. If you really are a politician please do it on your own time and not on taxpayers time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know how much these showcases sell the attendees information for? Signed my kid up to a showcase for the 1st time and we have gotten 10+ information envelopes for colleges every day. I should get a 1$ back for every envelope I have to look at and throw out from the showcase."

And now you're complaining your kid is getting solicited? Great story. Skip the next showcase then...

Ya I am complaining. Spam mail and recruiting are 2 different things dummy. That's what parents do, protect their kids. Identity theft is real, google it. Seems to me the showcases shouldn't be selling minors information. If we want information on a school for a kid we can figure out how to get it.

My oldest did not play travel sports and got those same college Solicitations. Don’t know where they come from. I think the high schools sends Information to Schools they believe the students grades would give them a fair chance of getting accepted. I have never confirmed this. I do not think it is a showcase selling the information. Just some advice, my son is a Division I lacrosse player. My advice is go to as many showcases as possible. Good luck.

Once they take the PSAT, those scores go out and colleges start mailing out info.

Are they having the NY State Regional Lacrosse Championship this year, have tryout dates been announced?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are they having the NY State Regional Lacrosse Championship this year, have tryout dates been announced?

As of now, there’s nothing going on. Website is still showing cancelled 2020 registration.

Are the rumors true???? How many of the top high school players transferring to Md to play in the miaa A this season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the rumors true???? How many of the top high school players transferring to Md to play in the miaa A this season?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the rumors true???? How many of the top high school players transferring to Md to play in the miaa A this season?

No

The rumors are true, lets see if they can pull the trigger and actually make the move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the rumors true???? How many of the top high school players transferring to Md to play in the miaa A this season?

No

The rumors are true, lets see if they can pull the trigger and actually make the move.

That will go over real well with MD parents.

My son plays in a state which hasn't greenlighted 'High Risk Sports' - boys lacrosse is in that category. He would never consider moving to another state to play ball. Said it would be abandoning his team and putting himself above his teamates and school. Any kid who does that should give up the right to be a captain of any sport at his home school IMO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays in a state which hasn't greenlighted 'High Risk Sports' - boys lacrosse is in that category. He would never consider moving to another state to play ball. Said it would be abandoning his team and putting himself above his teamates and school. Any kid who does that should give up the right to be a captain of any sport at his home school IMO.

Your certainly entitled to your opinion, but I give credit for parents looking after their kids best interest. Misery loves company, you'll all be on the sidelines this summer complaining about the state, the administrators, and coaches that did nothing for these kids.

....so it’s in their kids best interest to move to MD, attend a school with strangers for $$$ and break up the family unit for 5 months. Got it.

It good be an interesting debate... If you honestly feel that it would benefit your child by potentially getting into a better school. I think it is along the same lines of holding your child back. No, my child is not a holdback but would recommend it for my grandchildren... "attend a school with strangers for $$$ and break up the family unit for 5" kinda like sending them to college?

TD Ierland is leaving Yale to have an opportunity to play his senior year as its in his best interest. It would be in any HS players best interest facing the same challenge to move to a state they are playing the sport they are either committed to or plan on playing in college. The rest of the country is moving forward w sports.

2 Freeport football players moved to Georgia for senior year and ended up on State Champion team. It helped with their recruiting prospect. It's a huge move but considering the way things are it's not such a bad option if that's what the student is really looking for. My son was a 2020 and quite a few of his contemporaries ended up doing a PG year and are committed to some great schools. Obviously not realistic for all but something to be considered.

You get 4 years in HS. Sitting at home in front of a screen is fine for some, but for others who can afford an alternative and want to enjoy the HS experience in a reasonably safe way, why not? There are many kids who will potentially miss out on 2 years of HS sports, not to mention interacting in-person with peers and getting instruction in a more meaningful way. This isn't every man for himself. Others are free to look for alternatives or do nothing and hope for the best. The haves vs. have nots is no different during a pandemic than in ordinary times. I do think the commenter pointing out that MD parents won't be happy is probably true, but they should be used to Calvert Hall and other schools looking to recruit your replacement the moment they have you on campus. Not much different than college.

The 2 young Men from Freeport who I know, are in a much different situation then Lacrosse players from LI. They transferred because the have a legitimate chance of plying Pro making real Money and had family down in Georgia to live with and public school. So great decision I think. For Lacrosse players there are know public schools in Maryland worth going to for lax and private school there is 25k on the low end up 35-45k per year most. All to say you had a high school season or experience, leaving your friends you’ve had since 1st grade both in school and travel and know million dollar plus potential contract at the end of it, just doesn’t make sense to me. Even if someone has the means to do it, it’s a high price. Just my opinion. Apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

....so it’s in their kids best interest to move to MD, attend a school with strangers for $$$ and break up the family unit for 5 months. Got it.

So your kid is going to attend Nassau/Adelphi/Post and continue to live at home...? Or will you allow them to "leave the nest" ONLY for college?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2 young Men from Freeport who I know, are in a much different situation then Lacrosse players from LI. They transferred because the have a legitimate chance of plying Pro making real Money and had family down in Georgia to live with and public school. So great decision I think. For Lacrosse players there are know public schools in Maryland worth going to for lax and private school there is 25k on the low end up 35-45k per year most. All to say you had a high school season or experience, leaving your friends you’ve had since 1st grade both in school and travel and know million dollar plus potential contract at the end of it, just doesn’t make sense to me. Even if someone has the means to do it, it’s a high price. Just my opinion. Apples to oranges.

Do you have any idea how significant it is to have a chance to go to an Ivy or top ranked University? A "chance" of playing pro??? How about a chance to go to a great school, get a great education, get a great job, and have lifetime earnings greater than 75% of professional athletes.

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

It looks like we can all remain in NY, looks like HS sports are about to start up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Thanks

Us news not the best ranking. Too many factors considered that most people don’t care about. Rankings mean nothing. The difference in score between numbers 6 and 30 are fractions of a point. Although they are number 6 and 30 in rankings given that a fraction of a point separates 25 different schools it is a virtual tie and the difference is not significant to base your decision on. You will impress your neighbors saying you go to number six but the important employers and the various admission officers at top schools and graduate programs know they are the same. If highest income is the only concern there are schools not in the top 20 that produce very high paying jobs. Ivy League schools have a lot of rich kids with huge connection getting very high paying jobs that give a false impression of graduated income. In fact a lot of non ivy also give that false impression. The better indicator is social mobility. A low income person moving to high income. Again those schools around ranked 6-39 are about the same in that category as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Actually it is not dense. It is very informed. Let’s get some education on US news world report rankings. They have national universities, liberal arts and regional universities. National and liberal arts are self-explanatory. Regional are the rankings of schools that don’t have a big presence of graduate schools but Undergraduate programs undergraduate programs are comparable to the liberal arts and national universities as they are scored the same. The only way to compare the schools that are in different categories is by comparing the total US news and world report score. Georgetown, ranked 22 has a US news score of 81. It is a national university. Providence has a US news score of 100 which is much higher than Georgetown. It is also higher than UPenn and others such as Cornell. Providence is a regional university because it does not have the presence of many grad schools. If it was a national university technically it would be ranked just as high as some of the Ivy leagues. So the above posts are correct and rankings mean absolutely nothing. If you wish to follow the rankings don’t look at what number a school is ranked. That is meaningless. You must look at the overall score to get a perspective of what that ranking actually means. You must look at the US news and world report score If you truly want to follow the rankings. But like many said above the rankings mean absolutely nothing for those who are actually hiring graduates from top universities and in the admissions office of graduate schools. Although providence is a very good school I don’t think anybody would say it can compare to Georgetown or UPenn. However If you never heard of any of these schools before and followed only the rankings and US news scores you would think Providence was better than Ivy league schools. The graduate schools know that and so do the hiring partners at big Firms and ignore rankings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

Do you really think Cornell is better than Georgetown? I will tell you that the ones doing the hiring do not think that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

The only thing the Ivies have over Georgetown are a few more woke points. Got the Hoyas beat there, but not by much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

Georgetown is not too snabby.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually glad you asked the question, I am a product an Ivory league school. While I am glad I went to great University it did not make me who I am nor did it determine how success I am, It was all up to me and to be honest my life would not be any different if I had decided to go to any other College or University. I will not force my kids to go to any college or University simply because one may or may not be a better Education. Rather I have taught them to work hard for what they want and to go after it, it’s there work ethic and confidence that will make them successful. In fact, my two partners in my Practice both graduated from State Universities and most of our employees over half are from non-Ivory’s or what you would consider top Universities probably. I hire people for who they are, Not the high school or college they attended.

You are correct. It is the person not the school. I have many Ivy League graduates who work for me. Many of them produce subpar work and can’t make it in our business. However, Ivy League and top schools do give many more opportunities so long as they are taken advantage of. There are no guarantees just because somebody attends an Ivy League school. Having said all that with the exception of Yale, Harvard and Princeton there is really no difference between the other Ivy League schools and schools such as Williams, Duke, Hopkins, University of Virginia, Georgetown and other schools in that top 30 category. Schools rank six through 30 are identical when it comes to opportunity and success of graduates.

Lol. Those schools are not identical “the other” Ivies. Schools are ranked for a reason. A number 8 school is not comparable to a #20 school. The only thing I might add is that it also depends on your major. For example Penn (Ivy) has the #1 ranked business schools but you would be better off attending Michigan (#3), than Cornell, UNC, UVA (#7 tie). Princeton, Yale, Harvard not even in top. Do your research and go to the highest ranked program at a school you can get into. Check this out:

usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

cnbc.com/2019/07/31/wealth-x-the-20-American-universities-that-produce-the-richest-grads.html

Well, this is the densest thing I've seen posted here in a while.

Maybe even worse than the ESL guy above claiming to be an "Ivory League" alum. LOL

Says they guy whose kid went to Georgetown and thinks that’s the same as an Ivy League degree. Wake up!

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.[/quote]

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.[/quote]

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.[/quote]

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.[/quote]

Very true. HS grades are over inflated due in part to whining parents. SAT more valuable as a metric. Since all these kids have identical SATs, the top schools look for unique talent/skill/accomplishment. Getting into an elite school opens so many doors, but in the end you want your kid to LOVE the school and the coach. You also want them to get a high paying job. Here is a list of average salaries by school:

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/bachelors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.[/quote]

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.[/quote]

Pretty sure most if not all Ivy's use an "unweighted" GPA (4.0 scale) for admissions... Many schools do in fact use a "weighted" GPA that is why some schools show higher than a 4.0.... Also, High Schools are all very different some being more competitive than others... definitely not comparing apples to apples... and, as the post above states, "GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.[/quote]

Pretty sure most if not all Ivy's use an "unweighted" GPA (4.0 scale) for admissions... Many schools do in fact use a "weighted" GPA that is why some schools show higher than a 4.0.... Also, High Schools are all very different some being more competitive than others... definitely not comparing apples to apples... and, as the post above states, "GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance".[/quote]

All colleges use weighted. I think the point is that all the GPAs are so close between the top colleges and the Ivy league that prospective student should not pick a school just because it is Ivy League. There are other options that will give a student the same opportunities. One consideration with the Ivy schools that many fail to consider is the type of student that attends an Ivy may not be what a lacrosse player will fit in.It is very important to fit in and that is why maybe some other options in the top 20 - 30 would better suit a student athlete and make them more successful and happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.

Pretty sure most if not all Ivy's use an "unweighted" GPA (4.0 scale) for admissions... Many schools do in fact use a "weighted" GPA that is why some schools show higher than a 4.0.... Also, High Schools are all very different some being more competitive than others... definitely not comparing apples to apples... and, as the post above states, "GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance".[/quote]

All colleges use weighted. I think the point is that all the GPAs are so close between the top colleges and the Ivy league that prospective student should not pick a school just because it is Ivy League. There are other options that will give a student the same opportunities. One consideration with the Ivy schools that many fail to consider is the type of student that attends an Ivy may not be what a lacrosse player will fit in.It is very important to fit in and that is why maybe some other options in the top 20 - 30 would better suit a student athlete and make them more successful and happy.[/quote]

I know many, many lacrosse players who attended or are currently enrolled at Ivy League schools going back to the 1970's and the vast majority are very happy with their decisions. My son has several friends at Ivy league schools (he does not attend an Ivy) but his friends appear to be happy with their choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just look at the stats. Grade point average for students admitted to the University of Virginia 4.35, Georgetown 4.01 ,Cornell 4.07 and UPenn 3.88 all out of 4.0. They all have the same ACT and SAT scores. They all seem very similar with Virginia being the highest admitted grade point average and Upenn being the lowest. I find it hard to believe that there is a distinction between any of these schools.

Double checked the grade point average listed. They are correct with the exception of Cornell. Cornell is a 3.9. So the highest GPAs of those schools are Virginia which is the highest and Georgetown is the second highest. U Penn is the lowest. Everybody including prospective employers knows the Ivy League schools do not take the smartest kids anymore.

GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance. Every HS has its own way to calculate GPA so its not apples to apples.

Pretty sure most if not all Ivy's use an "unweighted" GPA (4.0 scale) for admissions... Many schools do in fact use a "weighted" GPA that is why some schools show higher than a 4.0.... Also, High Schools are all very different some being more competitive than others... definitely not comparing apples to apples... and, as the post above states, "GPA is just a small piece of the puzzle to college admittance".

All colleges use weighted. I think the point is that all the GPAs are so close between the top colleges and the Ivy league that prospective student should not pick a school just because it is Ivy League. There are other options that will give a student the same opportunities. One consideration with the Ivy schools that many fail to consider is the type of student that attends an Ivy may not be what a lacrosse player will fit in.It is very important to fit in and that is why maybe some other options in the top 20 - 30 would better suit a student athlete and make them more successful and happy.[/quote]

I know many, many lacrosse players who attended or are currently enrolled at Ivy League schools going back to the 1970's and the vast majority are very happy with their decisions. My son has several friends at Ivy league schools (he does not attend an Ivy) but his friends appear to be happy with their choice.[/quote]

Yes of course many are happy. My oldest who got into Ivy league schools for grades and other factors and not athletics, decided not to go to those schools after accepted students day visits. Went to another top school and is very happy. There is no one size fits all for any school or any group of Schools. I think it is mandatory to visit any school a student is considering during the fall or spring sessions. It is very helpful to see who you will be going to school with and the type of students. It is also very important when considering a cold climate, like upstate New York, to visit in the winter. We visited Cornell three times. It was absolutely beautiful in the summer and top on the list. However during the winter it was very depressing and a little better during accepted students day in the spring. But I would agree that it is very impressive going to an Ivy League school. If a student is not the strongest and getting in because of athletics it is much better getting a lower grade from an Ivy League school then one of the other top schools. There are so many factors to consider.

High School season is getting close, hopefully. Who are the top 10 Nassau HS public school teams this year? No bashing please.

Spring sports will not have State Championships this year. Just hope they can get in any kind of season.

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

You should probably add Farming Dale to that list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School season is getting close, hopefully. Who are the top 10 Nassau HS public school teams this year? No bashing please.

holdbacks, transfers, opt outs. The next several years will be rough for recruits and players in the hs scene.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

based on what? stats from 2019?

Anyone know of any good clinics for offensive players or any pickup games going on for this age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

based on what? stats from 2019?

Well what is your prediction? Those are historically the best teams in Nassau.

I think Farmingdale is missing from this list

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

based on what? stats from 2019?

Well what is your prediction? Those are historically the best teams in Nassau.

For the class of 2021 how many D1 players does Garden City have? Which of these top high schools have the most class of 2021 kids going to play college at the D1 level in the fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

based on what? stats from 2019?

Well what is your prediction? Those are historically the best teams in Nassau.

For the class of 2021 how many D1 players does Garden City have? Which of these top high schools have the most class of 2021 kids going to play college at the D1 level in the fall?

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Someone who will use 2021 D1 commits has no idea of [ChillLaxin] covid has hurt this graduating class. These boys lost their Junior seasons and their summer recruiting time. My son was in talks with several mid majors and they all took 5th year seniors instead and asked him to reclass. He chose to go D2 instead. I know many in this group who still don’t have a school. I don’t care about anything but seeing these kids play this spring. I’m also concerned about the numbers, as many fall sports kids who play lax in the spring will only play the fall sport instead of going back to back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Someone who will use 2021 D1 commits has no idea of [ChillLaxin] covid has hurt this graduating class. These boys lost their Junior seasons and their summer recruiting time. My son was in talks with several mid majors and they all took 5th year seniors instead and asked him to reclass. He chose to go D2 instead. I know many in this group who still don’t have a school. I don’t care about anything but seeing these kids play this spring. I’m also concerned about the numbers, as many fall sports kids who play lax in the spring will only play the fall sport instead of going back to back.

I think the point was that kids from no name lacrosse high schools from Long Island have now taking the spots at the Division I level from the traditional top high schools from Long Island. One would think that if Covid played a factor in that it would affect the no-name schools more than the top traditional Long Island schools. There are definitely better players being produced at Nontraditional lacrosse high schools from Long Island then from traditional schools. The number of Division I players supports that. Covid does not explain anything other than supporting the argument that everyone is catching up to do the traditional power houses. It is only a matter of time before those non-traditional benches become stronger too.

Another story is how few kids at the top D1 programs are actually coming from public HS across the board. Look at UVA current roster, looks like about 25% come from public (not Catholic) high schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Someone who will use 2021 D1 commits has no idea of [ChillLaxin] covid has hurt this graduating class. These boys lost their Junior seasons and their summer recruiting time. My son was in talks with several mid majors and they all took 5th year seniors instead and asked him to reclass. He chose to go D2 instead. I know many in this group who still don’t have a school. I don’t care about anything but seeing these kids play this spring. I’m also concerned about the numbers, as many fall sports kids who play lax in the spring will only play the fall sport instead of going back to back.

I think the point was that kids from no name lacrosse high schools from Long Island have now taking the spots at the Division I level from the traditional top high schools from Long Island. One would think that if Covid played a factor in that it would affect the no-name schools more than the top traditional Long Island schools. There are definitely better players being produced at Nontraditional lacrosse high schools from Long Island then from traditional schools. The number of Division I players supports that. Covid does not explain anything other than supporting the argument that everyone is catching up to do the traditional power houses. It is only a matter of time before those non-traditional benches become stronger too.

So list those Nassau no name HS with all this top notch D1 talent. What D1 schools? Because if a kid is going to a top D3 school such as Tufts or Bowdoin, over say Mercer or Bellarmine, well I'll take the D3. So which no name Nassau HS has all this D-1 level talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Syosset are top dogs in 2021.

based on what? stats from 2019?

Well what is your prediction? Those are historically the best teams in Nassau.

For the class of 2021 how many D1 players does Garden City have? Which of these top high schools have the most class of 2021 kids going to play college at the D1 level in the fall?

Isn't the question, who is the top 10 in Nassau? Where did the author ask for D-1 recruits?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

You can look at high school signing day announcements too. The post is very accurate. A lot of division one players from schools you would never think could produce a division one player. Schools like Garden City has none and Pequa has one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

You can look at high school signing day announcements too. The post is very accurate. A lot of division one players from schools you would never think could produce a division one player. Schools like Garden City has none and Pequa has one.

So what all our kids should stop playing lacrosse because they won't get a D1 ride? Is that the reason we all played. The talent pool has opened with the growth of the sport. The stranglehold that LI had because of coaches and players at the next level is not longer exclusive, bound to happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

You can look at high school signing day announcements too. The post is very accurate. A lot of division one players from schools you would never think could produce a division one player. Schools like Garden City has none and Pequa has one.

According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)

I added per capita based upon total number of youth lacrosse players participants per state (2013 survey).

Not perfect data sources, but the best I could find. Be great to see similar data by state/county for all D1 players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

You can look at high school signing day announcements too. The post is very accurate. A lot of division one players from schools you would never think could produce a division one player. Schools like Garden City has none and Pequa has one.

So what all our kids should stop playing lacrosse because they won't get a D1 ride? Is that the reason we all played. The talent pool has opened with the growth of the sport. The stranglehold that LI had because of coaches and players at the next level is not longer exclusive, bound to happen.

What growth are you referring to? Per US Lacrosse, total participation growth has slowed in recent years, and I don’t see any reason for it accelerate in near future.

2002 = 13.5%
2003 = 4.7%
2004 = 16.7%
2005 = 8.4%
2006 = 11.7%
2007 = 12.8%
2008 = 9.1%
2009 = 8.4%
2010 = 10.0%
2011 = 9.6%
2012 = 5.5%
2013 = 3.4%
2014 = 3.5%
2015 = 3.8%
2016 = 3.0%
2017 = 0.1%
2018 = 0.3%

Also, from a per capita perspective, MD is the stronghold in terms of top D1 players and lax participation.

And MD is not far behind from an absolute youth participation:
NY = 55k
MD = 48k

Why all the Long Island haters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Traditional powerhouse high schools are not producing as many Division I players as they once did. I believe Garden City has no Division I players for the class of 2021. The other schools listed have a few. High schools that in the past were not known for lacrosse are now producing multiple Division I players ahead of the likes of Garden City. Things are changing. The best teams are still the traditional ones however it is more because of depth and not because they have the best starters.

Great point. To add if you look at many of the top D1 Rosters especially underclassman and those just signing you notice more and more kids are coming from non- traditional lacrosse states which speaks to growth of sport. Also, I have read several articles where multiple D1 coaches state they are looking for the best athletes they can develop within their own programs. High potential raw athletes. Many/arguably most of these kids also have not played as many years and their love of the game is at its peak as opposed to the burnout that many of us (myself included) may have caused by getting stunk into 12 month lacrosse.

Garden City has no Division I players for 2021. Massapequa only has one. There are no-name Long Island high schools with two or more Division I players for 2021 class. Those kids from the no-name high schools are definitely taking spots on the division one rosters from the Long Island traditional powerhouse high school kids.

I'm not sure how that's even possible. Are you just talking about the published/announced players on IL?

You can look at high school signing day announcements too. The post is very accurate. A lot of division one players from schools you would never think could produce a division one player. Schools like Garden City has none and Pequa has one.

So what all our kids should stop playing lacrosse because they won't get a D1 ride? Is that the reason we all played. The talent pool has opened with the growth of the sport. The stranglehold that LI had because of coaches and players at the next level is not longer exclusive, bound to happen.

What growth are you referring to? Per US Lacrosse, total participation growth has slowed in recent years, and I don’t see any reason for it accelerate in near future.

2002 = 13.5%
2003 = 4.7%
2004 = 16.7%
2005 = 8.4%
2006 = 11.7%
2007 = 12.8%
2008 = 9.1%
2009 = 8.4%
2010 = 10.0%
2011 = 9.6%
2012 = 5.5%
2013 = 3.4%
2014 = 3.5%
2015 = 3.8%
2016 = 3.0%
2017 = 0.1%
2018 = 0.3%

Also, from a per capita perspective, MD is the stronghold in terms of top D1 players and lax participation.

And MD is not far behind from an absolute youth participation:
NY = 55k
MD = 48k

Why all the Long Island haters?

Other states have not caught up with Long Island. They found a way to compete by being older. Soon Long Island will hold back and re-class and level the playing field as far as age goes. Right now Long Island kids are starting to hold back. Even with these small percentage of kids from Long Island holding back compared to other states Long Island is still number one. When Long Island has the same number of all backs compared to other states the current dominance they enjoy will be even greater.

Why all the Long Island haters?

Other states have not caught up with Long Island. They found a way to compete by being older. Soon Long Island will hold back and re-class and level the playing field as far as age goes. Right now Long Island kids are starting to hold back. Even with these small percentage of kids from Long Island holding back compared to other states Long Island is still number one. When Long Island has the same number of all backs compared to other states the current dominance they enjoy will be even greater.[/quote]

The top player on 91 Smash is a hold back.

Still waiting on the answer to the original question, which schools in Nassau, since Massapequa and GC are “not good” are going to win? Calhoun? Hicksville? Freeport? Who takes the title in 1 and 2? Farmingdale? Syosset?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting on the answer to the original question, which schools in Nassau, since Massapequa and GC are “not good” are going to win? Calhoun? Hicksville? Freeport? Who takes the title in 1 and 2? Farmingdale? Syosset?

Stop. Nobody cares

Did someone completely remove the New England Lacrosse and Founders League forum discussion?

".
According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)"

The funny part about these rankings is - how many of these kids are actually at boarding schools in CT or MA? If a kid is from LI and goes to Salisbury School, I'm guessing he's classified as a NY player when you could argue he isn't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

".
According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)"

The funny part about these rankings is - how many of these kids are actually at boarding schools in CT or MA? If a kid is from LI and goes to Salisbury School, I'm guessing he's classified as a NY player when you could argue he isn't.

The not funny part is how did it work out for all those post grads and transfers looking to get recruited? Founders league is probably not playing this year and didn't last year. Life is not all about lax fellas.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting on the answer to the original question, which schools in Nassau, since Massapequa and GC are “not good” are going to win? Calhoun? Hicksville? Freeport? Who takes the title in 1 and 2? Farmingdale? Syosset?

Stop. Nobody cares

Wasn't that the question that started all this? Or was it all nonsense? really, the top teams in Nassau are the usual ones. And the no name Nassau schools with all the D-1 talent is just noise. The talent is where it always is: Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, CSH, Syosset and Farmingdale, with a few others out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

".
According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)"

The funny part about these rankings is - how many of these kids are actually at boarding schools in CT or MA? If a kid is from LI and goes to Salisbury School, I'm guessing he's classified as a NY player when you could argue he isn't.

The not funny part is how did it work out for all those post grads and transfers looking to get recruited? Founders league is probably not playing this year and didn't last year. Life is not all about lax fellas.

Says someone impacted by NCAA decision to grant an addition year of eligibility to college seniors. Yes...We all know and agree with the pros and cons of this decisions forced by the black swan event we call covid. stinks...life is not fair...but life must move on!

BTW- This happens to be a lax forum and this post happens to share insights backed by data. Something not too often shared on this forum. So, happy for you to take the time to share insightful content of your own, back by relevant data, so that we all can have a meaningful debate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

".
According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)"

The funny part about these rankings is - how many of these kids are actually at boarding schools in CT or MA? If a kid is from LI and goes to Salisbury School, I'm guessing he's classified as a NY player when you could argue he isn't.

The not funny part is how did it work out for all those post grads and transfers looking to get recruited? Founders league is probably not playing this year and didn't last year. Life is not all about lax fellas.

Agreed, "Life is not all about lax" but last time I checked this was a lax forum thus call me crazy but people come here to talk about lax. Happy to change the name of the forum and discuss Dak Prescott's potential new contract, how to make a souffle, is it possible to keep the wife happy or peace in the Middle East. Any of those topics work as well but maybe not on a lax forum. Chat among yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

".
According to men’s top 100 power rankings of incoming freshman, number of players ranked by state:
1. NY = 19 (35 per capita)
2. MD = 18 (38 per capita)
3. NJ = 8 (21 per capita)
4. PA = 6 (25 per capita)
5. Mass = 6 (15 per capita)"

The funny part about these rankings is - how many of these kids are actually at boarding schools in CT or MA? If a kid is from LI and goes to Salisbury School, I'm guessing he's classified as a NY player when you could argue he isn't.

The not funny part is how did it work out for all those post grads and transfers looking to get recruited? Founders league is probably not playing this year and didn't last year. Life is not all about lax fellas.

Agreed, "Life is not all about lax" but last time I checked this was a lax forum thus call me crazy but people come here to talk about lax. Happy to change the name of the forum and discuss Dak Prescott's potential new contract, how to make a souffle, is it possible to keep the wife happy or peace in the Middle East. Any of those topics work as well but maybe not on a lax forum. Chat among yourselves.

Suffolk is where the talent is.

So list those Nassau no name HS with all this top notch D1 talent. What D1 schools? Because if a kid is going to a top D3 school such as Tufts or Bowdoin, over say Mercer or Bellarmine, well I'll take the D3. So which no name Nassau HS has all this D-1 level talent?

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My son is a Sophomore and plays on one of the power Nassau schools mentioned. I have a friend whose kid plays at Carey and I'm pretty sure he told me they have 4-5 2021 D-1 commits which is more then my sons team. Just an example of a smaller school with 2021 going D-1

They just reinstated it. Either someone at BOTC has gorilla fingers or we upset someone in FL.

To the sarcastic question of how did it work our for all the kids that went to PG or Boarding school year; Can't speak for all, but certainly worked out well for my son. The known level of play, filmed practices and coaches connections and school reputation for producing top players worked out. My son is going to a top 25 school. That offer did not exist from that school prior to his pg year. And in terms of it being not just about lacrosse, agreed. He was more challenged academically and said if he were doing it all over again he would've gone there as a Freshman. All worked out.

Williams, Amherst, Bucknell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Fairfield, Michigan, Geneseo plus another kid that chose d1 football over lax offers... Nassau has plenty of talent. That is the class of '20 from a small nassau school...

How much did you pay for that year of PG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting on the answer to the original question, which schools in Nassau, since Massapequa and GC are “not good” are going to win? Calhoun? Hicksville? Freeport? Who takes the title in 1 and 2? Farmingdale? Syosset?

Stop. Nobody cares

Wasn't that the question that started all this? Or was it all nonsense? really, the top teams in Nassau are the usual ones. And the no name Nassau schools with all the D-1 talent is just noise. The talent is where it always is: Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, CSH, Syosset and Farmingdale, with a few others out there.

Top Long Island high schools are still the top agreed. But they are not the top because the have the best starters. Unknown schools have more d1 starters than some of those top schools. You don’t need much to beat garden city starters who have no d1 players. Top schools like garden city and others have more depth and that is where they will win. Not because they have the best starters like a few years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Williams, Amherst, Bucknell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Fairfield, Michigan, Geneseo plus another kid that chose d1 football over lax offers... Nassau has plenty of talent. That is the class of '20 from a small nassau school...

Yes Long Island is stronger than ever. However the players committed to division one and top division two & three colleges are now coming from many public high schools from Long Island for the class of 2021 who usually do not or have never produced a division one player in the past. This is a good thing not having a hand full of high schools from Long Island producing all the division one players in college. The game is spreading on Long Island too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Williams, Amherst, Bucknell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Fairfield, Michigan, Geneseo plus another kid that chose d1 football over lax offers... Nassau has plenty of talent. That is the class of '20 from a small nassau school...

Yes Long Island is stronger than ever. However the players committed to division one and top division two & three colleges are now coming from many public high schools from Long Island for the class of 2021 who usually do not or have never produced a division one player in the past. This is a good thing not having a hand full of high schools from Long Island producing all the division one players in college. The game is spreading on Long Island too.

Yes it is spreading to public schools but check out some of these "elite" colleges and university rosters.....overhelmingly players are from private schools located in a lot of different states.

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Williams, Amherst, Bucknell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Fairfield, Michigan, Geneseo plus another kid that chose d1 football over lax offers... Nassau has plenty of talent. That is the class of '20 from a small nassau school...

Yes Long Island is stronger than ever. However the players committed to division one and top division two & three colleges are now coming from many public high schools from Long Island for the class of 2021 who usually do not or have never produced a division one player in the past. This is a good thing not having a hand full of high schools from Long Island producing all the division one players in college. The game is spreading on Long Island too.

Yes it is spreading to public schools but check out some of these "elite" colleges and university rosters.....overhelmingly players are from private schools located in a lot of different states.

It has always been that way. One of the major reasons is because kids who go to those schools will always be able to afford full tuition. So they get less scholarship money. If a college could pay less for a player slightly less talented they will do that every time.

"Top Long Island high schools are still the top agreed. But they are not the top because the have the best starters. Unknown schools have more d1 starters than some of those top schools. You don’t need much to beat garden city starters who have no d1 players. Top schools like garden city and others have more depth and that is where they will win. Not because they have the best starters like a few years ago."

OK, so you are saying the same top schools consistently put out good teams that are deep but may lack transcendent star, but every seven years all the other schools at the bottom of their conference will produce a stud? Great. That is the difference between a town and school with an entrenched program and the random occurrence of a great athlete going through your district every decade. So roll the dice and move to a lower tier program playing the odds your kid will be that stud or go to a town with a program and good schools. Seems pretty clear to me... I'd be willing to bet that the top 5 Nassau programs, in no particular order, Manhasset, CSH, GC, Massapequa and Syosset have more kids on D1 rosters than the rest of the County combined. Not a fact, but I bet pretty close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

I don’t think anybody is saying Carey is the best. I think the point people are trying to make is that the traditionally best teams for 2021 had their spots taken by kids from high schools that rarely have produced any college players much less division 1. Schools very close to Garden city such as North Shore and Garden city surrounding school districts were very successful in producing Division I players Carey being one of them but not the only one. I truly think Garden City got hurt for the 2021 class by all those kids not playing club lacrosse. The ones that played club lacrosse had the most success. The ones that stuck to the Garden City in-house program playing in C tournament did not benefit at all. The results show with no division one commits. I will never forget a few years ago according to a garden city parent on one of these threads that Garden City will always dominate and their 2021 class in-house will all be D1 and destroy any team not know for lacrosse by 30 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

I don’t think anybody is saying Carey is the best. I think the point people are trying to make is that the traditionally best teams for 2021 had their spots taken by kids from high schools that rarely have produced any college players much less division 1. Schools very close to Garden city such as North Shore and Garden city surrounding school districts were very successful in producing Division I players Carey being one of them but not the only one. I truly think Garden City got hurt for the 2021 class by all those kids not playing club lacrosse. The ones that played club lacrosse had the most success. The ones that stuck to the Garden City in-house program playing in C tournament did not benefit at all. The results show with no division one commits. I will never forget a few years ago according to a garden city parent on one of these threads that Garden City will always dominate and their 2021 class in-house will all be D1 and destroy any team not know for lacrosse by 30 goals.

I thought the original question was which school will dominate in Nassau? Then everyone wrote how many D-1 commits. With one poster stating that Carey has a whole slew of them. Therefore, based on the thread, Carey is the top dog! I am anxious to see the matchup between Carey and the traditional top schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

I don’t think anybody is saying Carey is the best. I think the point people are trying to make is that the traditionally best teams for 2021 had their spots taken by kids from high schools that rarely have produced any college players much less division 1. Schools very close to Garden city such as North Shore and Garden city surrounding school districts were very successful in producing Division I players Carey being one of them but not the only one. I truly think Garden City got hurt for the 2021 class by all those kids not playing club lacrosse. The ones that played club lacrosse had the most success. The ones that stuck to the Garden City in-house program playing in C tournament did not benefit at all. The results show with no division one commits. I will never forget a few years ago according to a garden city parent on one of these threads that Garden City will always dominate and their 2021 class in-house will all be D1 and destroy any team not know for lacrosse by 30 goals.

And Thats Why all the Manhasset Kids Bolted for Club Teams some years back If your looking to get recruited nowadays, its through club ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Top Long Island high schools are still the top agreed. But they are not the top because the have the best starters. Unknown schools have more d1 starters than some of those top schools. You don’t need much to beat garden city starters who have no d1 players. Top schools like garden city and others have more depth and that is where they will win. Not because they have the best starters like a few years ago."

OK, so you are saying the same top schools consistently put out good teams that are deep but may lack transcendent star, but every seven years all the other schools at the bottom of their conference will produce a stud? Great. That is the difference between a town and school with an entrenched program and the random occurrence of a great athlete going through your district every decade. So roll the dice and move to a lower tier program playing the odds your kid will be that stud or go to a town with a program and good schools. Seems pretty clear to me... I'd be willing to bet that the top 5 Nassau programs, in no particular order, Manhasset, CSH, GC, Massapequa and Syosset have more kids on D1 rosters than the rest of the County combined. Not a fact, but I bet pretty close.

For 2021 you are wrong. Massapequa, CSH, and Garden City have less than five d1 altogether. I think the number is Four or three. You are definitely missing the point. Going back over the last 4 years and figuring out who has more Division I players is not being considered. Of course you would be correct because the point is that in 2020 and 21 those bottom Tier high schools are starting to produce Division I players and taking the spots of the Top programs. Will it continue? Who knows. But it is odd that massapequa, CSH and Garden City did not produce many Division I players in 2021.

Great 21 crop for Carey... GC still rules the roost and willing to bet 4 years from now and every year between GC will be in the county final... Has Carey ever been to the county final???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great 21 crop for Carey... GC still rules the roost and willing to bet 4 years from now and every year between GC will be in the county final... Has Carey ever been to the county final???

This must be the GC parent a few years back that said all 2021s from GC will be D1 players. That was wrong as they have none for 2021.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

I don’t think anybody is saying Carey is the best. I think the point people are trying to make is that the traditionally best teams for 2021 had their spots taken by kids from high schools that rarely have produced any college players much less division 1. Schools very close to Garden city such as North Shore and Garden city surrounding school districts were very successful in producing Division I players Carey being one of them but not the only one. I truly think Garden City got hurt for the 2021 class by all those kids not playing club lacrosse. The ones that played club lacrosse had the most success. The ones that stuck to the Garden City in-house program playing in C tournament did not benefit at all. The results show with no division one commits. I will never forget a few years ago according to a garden city parent on one of these threads that Garden City will always dominate and their 2021 class in-house will all be D1 and destroy any team not know for lacrosse by 30 goals.

And Thats Why all the Manhasset Kids Bolted for Club Teams some years back If your looking to get recruited nowadays, its through club ball.

Agreed. But it will be interesting to see if high school becomes Important again now that a lot of recruiting is by video. If that happens being part of a a top high school will be very important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great 21 crop for Carey... GC still rules the roost and willing to bet 4 years from now and every year between GC will be in the county final... Has Carey ever been to the county final???

This must be the GC parent a few years back that said all 2021s from GC will be D1 players. That was wrong as they have none for 2021.

Who will win the county? GC or Carey?

Garden City parents all bow down to SF who coaches varsity lax and has a side hustle with his club team. Historically, kids played FLG, 91, etc, but once they all signed on for his club team it all went to heck. A bunch of sheep parents too afraid of the coach to go elsewhere in the summer. The program was also a complete joke: coached by hung over college kids, bs or non-existent practices and playing in irrelevant tournaments. Proof is in the pudding with no D1 commit for 2021. There was one in 2020 but he got his look through Express as did the one in 2022. GC parents still thinking it is 1985 and the high school name alone gets their kids looks. Haven’t woken up to the reality that their moderately skilled 5’8”, 160 lb kid is no match for the man child athletes being churned out all over the country. Still drinking beers in Leo’s and talking up all the “studs” on the roster who won’t even be playing club in college.

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden City parents all bow down to SF who coaches varsity lax and has a side hustle with his club team. Historically, kids played FLG, 91, etc, but once they all signed on for his club team it all went to heck. A bunch of sheep parents too afraid of the coach to go elsewhere in the summer. The program was also a complete joke: coached by hung over college kids, bs or non-existent practices and playing in irrelevant tournaments. Proof is in the pudding with no D1 commit for 2021. There was one in 2020 but he got his look through Express as did the one in 2022. GC parents still thinking it is 1985 and the high school name alone gets their kids looks. Haven’t woken up to the reality that their moderately skilled 5’8”, 160 lb kid is no match for the man child athletes being churned out all over the country. Still drinking beers in Leo’s and talking up all the “studs” on the roster who won’t even be playing club in college.

Hmmmmm, seems like someone’s little ballerina got there butt handed to them by Garden City. How many county, LI and state championships since 1985 since you brought it up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

Delusional! This year’s team (2021) has their top players going DIII. With one exception it was the same story last year. Club program has destroyed a once proud tradition in GC.

So Carey is the presumptive “best team” in Nassau because they have the most D-1 commits. Good to know!

I posted that Carey has 3-4 D-1 2021 commits. I'm not saying they will win a title all I was pointing out is that they are not a typical Nassau powerhouse and they have more then most of the predominant Nassau powerhouses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

Great you beat travel teams but half of the team does not play college lacrosse and the best player plays division three. Big victory there Leo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

Great you beat travel teams but half of the team does not play college lacrosse and the best player plays division three. Big victory there Leo.

.....and not Wliiams, Tufts or Amherst either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.

I am still waiting to hear from the GC parent who a couple years ago was saying that the GC 2021 lacrosse class would be all Division I players and the GC HS team would beat any team in high school not in the top 10 by 30 goals. Where is that guy now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.

What is the name of the GC coaches club team???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

So obnoxious. Do people consider Garden City rich who are not from GardenCity? The rich From Nassau County have an “old” at the beginning of the village name or a “ Point” at the end of it. Other than than that many places have a nice share of 1 million to 2 million dollar homes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

So obnoxious. Do people consider Garden City rich who are not from GardenCity? The rich From Nassau County have an “old” at the beginning of the village name or a “ Point” at the end of it. Other than than that many places have a nice share of 1 million to 2 million dollar homes.

Jealous and sensitive. How special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

So obnoxious. Do people consider Garden City rich who are not from GardenCity? The rich From Nassau County have an “old” at the beginning of the village name or a “ Point” at the end of it. Other than than that many places have a nice share of 1 million to 2 million dollar homes.

Jealous and sensitive. How special.

Doubt it. No one cares. Let’s get back to talking lacrosse and GC not being able to produce a D1 player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

So obnoxious. Do people consider Garden City rich who are not from GardenCity? The rich From Nassau County have an “old” at the beginning of the village name or a “ Point” at the end of it. Other than than that many places have a nice share of 1 million to 2 million dollar homes.

Jealous and sensitive. How special.

Doubt it. No one cares. Let’s get back to talking lacrosse and GC not being able to produce a D1 player.

More importantly, let’s talk about how all those D-3 kids made your D-1 “player” look lost on the field. Now that 17-2 beating made you such a jealous little person.

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]GC team beats the travel clubs club teams on the summer circuit. We laugh at all the people that throw their money away with the club teams when we are at Leos.

GC coach also charges for his club team last time I checked. At least with the big clubs you get something for your money. In GC, you line the coach’s pockets by paying for his club team which, in a good year, places a handful of kids into low level DIII programs. Then there are the families who pay for Express, 91 etc AND the GC coach’s club program just to keep him happy. Amazing anyone has any money left for Leo’s.[/quote

And some left over for the country club as well. Jealousy is an ugly color, you wear it well.

So obnoxious. Do people consider Garden City rich who are not from GardenCity? The rich From Nassau County have an “old” at the beginning of the village name or a “ Point” at the end of it. Other than than that many places have a nice share of 1 million to 2 million dollar homes.

Jealous and sensitive. How special.

Doubt it. No one cares. Let’s get back to talking lacrosse and GC not being able to produce a D1 player.

More importantly, let’s talk about how all those D-3 kids made your D-1 “player” look lost on the field. Now that 17-2 beating made you such a jealous little person.

Read the posts above. You are the guy who said the same thing a couple of years ago except you are no longer saying every GC kid will play d1. Al Bundy here thinks High School sports very important. Too bad the kids won’t compete against each other in college unless your kid transfers to a d1 program. We all hope that the clear disappointment you have in your kid not playing d1 is not noticed by him. We all notice it here. By the way there is nothing wrong with playing d3. Kids choose d3 over d1 all the time. But from your posts It is clear your kid did not have that option. I wish him well because having a father like you has got to be miserable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Fair point except for the fact that most, if not all, of the kids you say do not want to play college lacrosse have recruiting videos. Also the best from GC are playing college just not division one. Just face the fact that the game is spreading and being from a top HS program from Long Island is not enough to be recruited. There are other options on Long Island for college coaches. It is hard to figure out why there are so many excuses from one GC parent on why they are not able to produce division one level recruits. We have heard Covid, they don’t want to play college lacrosse, they don’t want divisIon one, they want to go to academic d3 programs even though only one is doing that, and some others. The reason is clear from the list. Other high schools, who have never really produced college level recruits are now producing multiple Division I players. These kids are taking spots of the Garden City’s of the world.

uote=Anonymous]This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

[/quote]

Smithtown East

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fair point except for the fact that most, if not all, of the kids you say do not want to play college lacrosse have recruiting videos. Also the best from GC are playing college just not division one. Just face the fact that the game is spreading and being from a top HS program from Long Island is not enough to be recruited. There are other options on Long Island for college coaches. It is hard to figure out why there are so many excuses from one GC parent on why they are not able to produce division one level recruits. We have heard Covid, they don’t want to play college lacrosse, they don’t want divisIon one, they want to go to academic d3 programs even though only one is doing that, and some others. The reason is clear from the list. Other high schools, who have never really produced college level recruits are now producing multiple Division I players. These kids are taking spots of the Garden City’s of the world.

uote=Anonymous]This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

[/quote]

No Dog in this fight but I am confused.... Why are you implying that these other schools have not produced DI lacrosse players in the past? I realize that GC has produced many and maybe not so many in the class that you seem to point at but from what I know many of the other schools that you list have produced a lot of DI players.

I do agree with the premise that "town teams" are not the best way to develop players and get them recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fair point except for the fact that most, if not all, of the kids you say do not want to play college lacrosse have recruiting videos. Also the best from GC are playing college just not division one. Just face the fact that the game is spreading and being from a top HS program from Long Island is not enough to be recruited. There are other options on Long Island for college coaches. It is hard to figure out why there are so many excuses from one GC parent on why they are not able to produce division one level recruits. We have heard Covid, they don’t want to play college lacrosse, they don’t want divisIon one, they want to go to academic d3 programs even though only one is doing that, and some others. The reason is clear from the list. Other high schools, who have never really produced college level recruits are now producing multiple Division I players. These kids are taking spots of the Garden City’s of the world.

uote=Anonymous]This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

No Dog in this fight but I am confused.... Why are you implying that these other schools have not produced DI lacrosse players in the past? I realize that GC has produced many and maybe not so many in the class that you seem to point at but from what I know many of the other schools that you list have produced a lot of DI players.

I do agree with the premise that "town teams" are not the best way to develop players and get them recruited.[/quote]

I did not mean to imply that. Many schools on the list have produced D1 players but some have not or not many. The interesting part is not only some new schools but also some of the schools not on the list.

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

I would say that "strong athletes / players" from non-traditional "Lacrosse Towns" have benefited greatly from "Club Lacrosse". The ability to play on a 91 or Express "A" Team can help a player develop and get recruited. It has been this way for a long time now. The top college programs want to see players compete against the best competition. When they go to a "Top Club Tournament" they get to see a large majority of the best players in a given graduation year compete against each other. Not a lot of recruiting going on at HS games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

You may want to check the Hometowns of some of those Chaminade St Anthonys recruits, you'll be surprised how many are from GC/Manhasset.

In no way is anyone claiming or thinking that these new towns and high schools that have now found lacrosse is going to supersede or pass Garden City or Massapequa in the near future. Some of the New high schools may be strong in 2021 and have no one for 2022. I do not expect some of these high schools to be consistently producing Division I players like they have for 2021. However, I can tell you this, in our town given the Success of these 2021 players going to division one college programs our enrollment in PAL lacrosse is substantially higher. These new high schools on this list still lose a lot of players to baseball. As more and more of those kids go to college and play college lacrosse those high schools that are new will hopefully turn into lacrosse first high Schools. Garden City and other Traditional high schools still get their best athletes to play lacrosse. The new programs have not Reached that point yet. But hopefully will as what appears to be happening in our town with the younger kids now having higher registration in lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Wait, no is "hating"?? Did I not read about a guy who can't stop thinking about a post from a GC parent YEARS ago? That guy's not a "hater"? Come on, the jealousy is so obvious it borders on sad. The reason he's "hating" on GC is that his son was utterly abused, and now he thinks he's getting his just rewards because his son is going to Hartford to play big-time D-1 lax. So my final thought is good luck to your son, hopefully, he is way more mature than his thin-skinned father.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th[quote=Anonymous]I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Wait, no is "hating"?? Did I not read about a guy who can't stop thinking about a post from a GC parent YEARS ago? That guy's not a "hater"? Come on, the jealousy is so obvious it borders on sad. The reason he's "hating" on GC is that his son was utterly abused, and now he thinks he's getting his just rewards because his son is going to Hartford to play big-time D-1 lax. So my final thought is good luck to your son, hopefully, he is way more mature than his thin-skinned father.[/

Another comment with no value from this mad GC parent. You obviously like to face off. Everybody knows who you are. All your assumptions are always wrong. For someone who thinks he has everything going for him you are very angry. Sorry things are not going well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

You may want to check the Hometowns of some of those Chaminade St Anthonys recruits, you'll be surprised how many are from GC/Manhasset.

Not sure I understand your point. In last few years there have been several Chaminade kids from GC who committed to play D1 lacrosse. To my knowledge all played for the big club programs and not for the GC team. The coach historically did not let GC kids play for his program unless they also went to GC High School. The reality is that Chaminade has put more GC residents into D1 programs in recent years than GC itself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

You may want to check the Hometowns of some of those Chaminade St Anthonys recruits, you'll be surprised how many are from GC/Manhasset.

Not sure I understand your point. In last few years there have been several Chaminade kids from GC who committed to play D1 lacrosse. To my knowledge all played for the big club programs and not for the GC team. The coach historically did not let GC kids play for his program unless they also went to GC High School. The reality is that Chaminade has put more GC residents into D1 programs in recent years than GC itself.

Not sure about current rosters but in the past some of the best players at Chaminade and St Anthony's have come from the "Lacrosse Towns". Massapequa, Garden City, Manhasset, Syosset, CHS, Smithtown, Ward Melville and others. Kids from all over go these schools. It's not just about Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

You may want to check the Hometowns of some of those Chaminade St Anthonys recruits, you'll be surprised how many are from GC/Manhasset.

Not sure I understand your point. In last few years there have been several Chaminade kids from GC who committed to play D1 lacrosse. To my knowledge all played for the big club programs and not for the GC team. The coach historically did not let GC kids play for his program unless they also went to GC High School. The reality is that Chaminade has put more GC residents into D1 programs in recent years than GC itself.

Not sure about current rosters but in the past some of the best players at Chaminade and St Anthony's have come from the "Lacrosse Towns". Massapequa, Garden City, Manhasset, Syosset, CHS, Smithtown, Ward Melville and others. Kids from all over go these schools. It's not just about Lacrosse.

Obviously it’s not in your blood if you were born somewhere you become a better lacrosse player. I think a lot of it had to do with the traditional towns producing better lacrosse kids because they started in first and second grade. This is going back many years. Now more towns are starting in first and second grade. In addition a lot of the other towns have great athletes play other sports other than lacrosse. Higher percentage of the great athletes play baseball or something else. As the sport grows those nontraditional towns will be drawing more of the good athletes that play baseball or maybe track to lacrosse. It does seem that the traditional towns do produce many of the best players. But again, it is because those towns start earlier and draw a higher percentage of the best athletes which the non-traditional towns don’t do but are now starting to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In no way is anyone claiming or thinking that these new towns and high schools that have now found lacrosse is going to supersede or pass Garden City or Massapequa in the near future. Some of the New high schools may be strong in 2021 and have no one for 2022. I do not expect some of these high schools to be consistently producing Division I players like they have for 2021. However, I can tell you this, in our town given the Success of these 2021 players going to division one college programs our enrollment in PAL lacrosse is substantially higher. These new high schools on this list still lose a lot of players to baseball. As more and more of those kids go to college and play college lacrosse those high schools that are new will hopefully turn into lacrosse first high Schools. Garden City and other Traditional high schools still get their best athletes to play lacrosse. The new programs have not Reached that point yet. But hopefully will as what appears to be happening in our town with the younger kids now having higher registration in lacrosse.

Great players can come from any town, high school, state, country etc... Teams that win championships in Hotbed areas win with depth. You can have the best player in the country and not be able to beat a team with 15 - 20 very good players. Sometimes those championship teams happen to have the "best player" but most of the time they are just very deep with good "smart" team players. Its a team sport and it is almost impossible to win a championship without sufficient depth. When you look at the teams that have won New York State championships (at least in the modern era say the past 10 years) they seem to do it with depth. Some think its coaching or senior leadership (and that is important) but from what I have witnessed it is team depth that plays the biggest roll. Teams that have very strong junior, sophomore and even freshmen classes to complement their seniors seem to be the ones that win. I have witnessed many coaches try to ride a stud or two senior only to watch them become too fatigued to be effective. I am not familiar with the current GC Team but I am confident that they will remain a very competitive program that produces some great players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th[quote=Anonymous]I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Wait, no is "hating"?? Did I not read about a guy who can't stop thinking about a post from a GC parent YEARS ago? That guy's not a "hater"? Come on, the jealousy is so obvious it borders on sad. The reason he's "hating" on GC is that his son was utterly abused, and now he thinks he's getting his just rewards because his son is going to Hartford to play big-time D-1 lax. So my final thought is good luck to your son, hopefully, he is way more mature than his thin-skinned father.[/

Another comment with no value from this mad GC parent. You obviously like to face off. Everybody knows who you are. All your assumptions are always wrong. For someone who thinks he has everything going for him you are very angry. Sorry things are not going well.

All’s well friend, sorry for yours sons brush with the big bad GC kids. He’s going to be fine. You...not so much.

When are we going to see the first schedules come out for this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th[quote=Anonymous]I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Wait, no is "hating"?? Did I not read about a guy who can't stop thinking about a post from a GC parent YEARS ago? That guy's not a "hater"? Come on, the jealousy is so obvious it borders on sad. The reason he's "hating" on GC is that his son was utterly abused, and now he thinks he's getting his just rewards because his son is going to Hartford to play big-time D-1 lax. So my final thought is good luck to your son, hopefully, he is way more mature than his thin-skinned father.[/

Another comment with no value from this mad GC parent. You obviously like to face off. Everybody knows who you are. All your assumptions are always wrong. For someone who thinks he has everything going for him you are very angry. Sorry things are not going well.

All’s well friend, sorry for yours sons brush with the big bad GC kids. He’s going to be fine. You...not so much.

A brush with GC? That is a complete fantasy of yours. You certainly are the architect of making things up. By you saying that it is the same as making up that Allentown is big and scary. But no evidence anywhere that that is true just like your baseless assumptions. Good luck. I real do hope your kid does well at whatever division and whichever school he attends.

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

It's stunands like you hosting parties causing entire school districts to lose their seasons. Great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

The entitled shine again!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

It's odd.. for a group of educated , financially successful parents, there is an amazing amount of insecurity.

Relax, lacrosse is evolving like the rest of the sports, tainted and less pure! No more size doesn’t matter in lax or late bloomers will have a chance to catch up. Men playing pro for peanuts for the love of the game. Yes, it took awhile but we ruined it! So take a knee and relax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Relax, lacrosse is evolving like the rest of the sports, tainted and less pure! No more size doesn’t matter in lax or late bloomers will have a chance to catch up. Men playing pro for peanuts for the love of the game. Yes, it took awhile but we ruined it! So take a knee and relax!

The two leading Tewaaraton contenders are 5’8” 170

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

It's stunands like you hosting parties causing entire school districts to lose their seasons. Great job.

stunad huh. Ok. Over reaction by the school. But I’m the stunad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on now with the town of Manhasset should be a wake up call for everyone. There will be no in person learning or sports until parents enforce mask wearing. Fall sports are scheduled to be played Mar/April. One more week of push back and you can kiss lacrosse goodbye. Recruiting, HS games all goes bye bye if we don't wake up.

Relax. The sky isn’t falling. Put your 3 masks on and go hide.

It's odd.. for a group of educated , financially successful parents, there is an amazing amount of insecurity.

Relax. They cancelled 1 week of winter. Big deal. Next session is fall sports. Then spring sports. What a bunch of whiners. Get over it. Over reaction by the school district because the kids had a party.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th[quote=Anonymous]I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

Agreed. No one is caring about Garden City or any other individual high school. There may be some comments directed at an individual from Garden City who angered some people with his comments with absolutely no value. But as you stated the point is that the sport is growing across the country and especially on Long Island. When you see high schools on that list with kids going to very good colleges and college lacrosse programs it is a good thing for the sport. In the old days only a handful of towns started lacrosse in first and second grade. Now most of the towns are starting early. The result is that you are now seeing recruits from high schools or towns that you never thought could produce a division I athlete in lacrosse. It is that simple. No one is hating anybody here and in fact we should all want Long Island players and programs to do well in state and national championships.

Wait, no is "hating"?? Did I not read about a guy who can't stop thinking about a post from a GC parent YEARS ago? That guy's not a "hater"? Come on, the jealousy is so obvious it borders on sad. The reason he's "hating" on GC is that his son was utterly abused, and now he thinks he's getting his just rewards because his son is going to Hartford to play big-time D-1 lax. So my final thought is good luck to your son, hopefully, he is way more mature than his thin-skinned father.[/

Another comment with no value from this mad GC parent. You obviously like to face off. Everybody knows who you are. All your assumptions are always wrong. For someone who thinks he has everything going for him you are very angry. Sorry things are not going well.

All’s well friend, sorry for yours sons brush with the big bad GC kids. He’s going to be fine. You...not so much.

A brush with GC? That is a complete fantasy of yours. You certainly are the architect of making things up. By you saying that it is the same as making up that Allentown is big and scary. But no evidence anywhere that that is true just like your baseless assumptions. Good luck. I real do hope your kid does well at whatever division and whichever school he attends.

Can you translate this gibberish to English?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’d th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I too am confused. Why do you care about GC so much?

I think the point is that D1 recruiting is now spread more widely across LI. In the “old days” a high percentage came from GC or Manhasset. Chaminade and St. Anthony’s are now the clear leaders with other D1 recruits coming from all over thanks to the rise of the club teams.

You may want to check the Hometowns of some of those Chaminade St Anthonys recruits, you'll be surprised how many are from GC/Manhasset.

Not sure I understand your point. In last few years there have been several Chaminade kids from GC who committed to play D1 lacrosse. To my knowledge all played for the big club programs and not for the GC team. The coach historically did not let GC kids play for his program unless they also went to GC High School. The reality is that Chaminade has put more GC residents into D1 programs in recent years than GC itself.

Not sure about current rosters but in the past some of the best players at Chaminade and St Anthony's have come from the "Lacrosse Towns". Massapequa, Garden City, Manhasset, Syosset, CHS, Smithtown, Ward Melville and others. Kids from all over go these schools. It's not just about Lacrosse.

Obviously it’s not in your blood if you were born somewhere you become a better lacrosse player. I think a lot of it had to do with the traditional towns producing better lacrosse kids because they started in first and second grade. This is going back many years. Now more towns are starting in first and second grade. In addition a lot of the other towns have great athletes play other sports other than lacrosse. Higher percentage of the great athletes play baseball or something else. As the sport grows those nontraditional towns will be drawing more of the good athletes that play baseball or maybe track to lacrosse. It does seem that the traditional towns do produce many of the best players. But again, it is because those towns start earlier and draw a higher percentage of the best athletes which the non-traditional towns don’t do but are now starting to.

I always felt that the biggest reason why places like Manhasset and Garden City have traditionally been so good, especially at the youth level, was that both towns were chock full of fathers who grew up playing lacrosse.

Und1sputed is that a good showcase?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Und1sputed is that a good showcase?

I would say not that good. Look at Elite 100 for a great showcase that everyone can get in. There are also much better ones that an invite is needed. But also sign up for the regional tryouts run by FLG. Not sure if they are doing it this year. Even if your kid does not make the team coaches are there and every D1 coach is at the top 50 game.

I would say not that good. Look at Elite 100 for a great showcase that everyone can get in. There are also much better ones that an invite is needed. But also sign up for the regional tryouts run by FLG. Not sure if they are doing it this year. Even if your kid does not make the team coaches are there and every D1 coach is at the top 50 game.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fair point except for the fact that most, if not all, of the kids you say do not want to play college lacrosse have recruiting videos. Also the best from GC are playing college just not division one. Just face the fact that the game is spreading and being from a top HS program from Long Island is not enough to be recruited. There are other options on Long Island for college coaches. It is hard to figure out why there are so many excuses from one GC parent on why they are not able to produce division one level recruits. We have heard Covid, they don’t want to play college lacrosse, they don’t want divisIon one, they want to go to academic d3 programs even though only one is doing that, and some others. The reason is clear from the list. Other high schools, who have never really produced college level recruits are now producing multiple Division I players. These kids are taking spots of the Garden City’s of the world.

uote=Anonymous]This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

No Dog in this fight but I am confused.... Why are you implying that these other schools have not produced DI lacrosse players in the past? I realize that GC has produced many and maybe not so many in the class that you seem to point at but from what I know many of the other schools that you list have produced a lot of DI players.

I do agree with the premise that "town teams" are not the best way to develop players and get them recruited.

I did not mean to imply that. Many schools on the list have produced D1 players but some have not or not many. The interesting part is not only some new schools but also some of the schools not on the list.[/quote]

D1 commits mean nothing in the 2021 class. Many kids I knew opened their eyes, and chose top D2 and D3 programs that they can run for a championship at instead of being blinded by D1 titles.

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Rollins - Bentley - LeMoyne

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

I know most kids if not all on my son’s travel team got into a much better colleges than they would have without lacrosse. It is very common to get into a better school because of lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Rollins - Bentley - LeMoyne

Amazing academics? That’s a tremendous stretch. How about average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Rollins - Bentley - LeMoyne

Amazing academics? That’s a tremendous stretch. How about average.

Bentley is a great school especially for business. We hire from that school all the time. If my kid was going to compete in d2 that would be a top choice over most d3 programs. It would be a top 25-30 out of the about 74 d1 programs.

Are spectators going to be allowed at HS games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are spectators going to be allowed at HS games?

Most likely there will be. Right now for basketball you can only attend home games and a 2 person per player limit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Tampa has the best female population. That's where my son will be going!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are spectators going to be allowed at HS games?

Most likely there will be. Right now for basketball you can only attend home games and a 2 person per player limit

Let's see what they do with Football

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are spectators going to be allowed at HS games?

Most likely there will be. Right now for basketball you can only attend home games and a 2 person per player limit

Let's see what they do with Football

Most schools in Nassau are not allowing visiting fans---many schools will not allow home fans -----we will see how this plays out and what could happen going into spring sports

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Tampa has the best female population. That's where my son will be going!

Yeah, and 97 players on the roster. Should make for some serious playing time.

So the 2021’s (current HS seniors) get thrown under the bus by USL with the PLAYER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. Thanks USL! How many incredible 21 players do not have the opportunity to now participate!? I’d love to know who on the USL board has sons/daughters benefitting from this.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong and I am misinterpreting the article.

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/usa-insider/us-lacrosse-announces-2021-ntdp-process

THE 2020s ARE REWARDED:

“Ordinarily, the upper age of eligibility for the age-group World Championship would be U20, but on a one-time basis in 2022, in order to make certain athletes are not deprived of the opportunity to compete, it is being raised to U21.”

THE 22s AND UNDER as well as the NEW 2021 holdbacks (therefore 2022s) who don't enroll in college ARE REWARDED:

To be eligible for the 2021 National Team Development Program, individuals must be born before August 31, 2007.
U18: The player must be born on or between September 1, 2002 and August 31, 2004. (11th and 12th grade/ graduation years 2023 and 2022)  U16: The player must be born on or between September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2007. (9th and 10th grade/ graduation years 2024 and 2025)

*You must be enrolled in high school or 9th grade by the start of the 2021 academic school year to be eligible. If you are age-eligible, but still enrolled in middle school or 8th grade at the beginning of the 2021 academic school year, you are not eligible to participate this year.

**If you are enrolled in college at the start of the 2021 fall college semester, even if under the age of 18, you are NOT eligible to participate.

***Any age-eligible 2021s who are not enrolled in college by Fall of 2021 are welcome to apply as well. “

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

This is certainly not true for serious players from Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

This is certainly not true for serious players from Long Island.

while that 1% might be a D1 number, being an above average LI player will get you into colleges you might not have been able to get into due to factors.. You still need the grades, but other things might not have gotten your app looked at more than once..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Tampa has the best female population. That's where my son will be going!

Yeah, and 97 players on the roster. Should make for some serious playing time.

To be accurate, their roster is actually 62 players deep!! When you consider its literally larger than your typical football roster, the fact two thirds of that number never see the field and most importantly D2 only has 10.8 scholarships to dole out per class, it really makes you wonder what the attraction is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice thing about men’s college lacrosse is that most of the D1 options are good to great academic schools. Of course there are some not so good too. Also there are some great D3 academic options. In short D1, D2 and D3 all offer a chance for kids to get into a much better academic school than they would have without lacrosse. Championships are nice but I would hope a kid picks a great academic school that is a great fit over anything else.

A very small percentage, under 1%, of players will benefit from any type of lacrosse recruitment to college. Of those that do, the reward is an even smaller percentage for tuition reimbursed. You're NOT going to any college without excellent grades and well rounded extra curriculars. Lacrosse is rarely a part of that equation. The college coaches will let you know right away where you rank and it wont be at some freshman or sophomore money grab showcase. Don't be fooled into thinking your investment in youth lacrosse will be rewarded with a scholarship. Pay and play because your kid wants to not you. Its their journey.

Which D2 school offers an amazing academic experience?

Tampa has the best female population. That's where my son will be going!

Yeah, and 97 players on the roster. Should make for some serious playing time.

To be accurate, their roster is actually 62 players deep!! When you consider its literally larger than your typical football roster, the fact two thirds of that number never see the field and most importantly D2 only has 10.8 scholarships to dole out per class, it really makes you wonder what the attraction is.

62 players is more like half the size of your “typical football roster”... BTW, it’s not “10.8” scholarships “per class”, it’s 10.8 scholarships total for the entire team at any given time.
If you are going to post at least have a reasonable grasp of facts and or reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fair point except for the fact that most, if not all, of the kids you say do not want to play college lacrosse have recruiting videos. Also the best from GC are playing college just not division one. Just face the fact that the game is spreading and being from a top HS program from Long Island is not enough to be recruited. There are other options on Long Island for college coaches. It is hard to figure out why there are so many excuses from one GC parent on why they are not able to produce division one level recruits. We have heard Covid, they don’t want to play college lacrosse, they don’t want divisIon one, they want to go to academic d3 programs even though only one is doing that, and some others. The reason is clear from the list. Other high schools, who have never really produced college level recruits are now producing multiple Division I players. These kids are taking spots of the Garden City’s of the world.

uote=Anonymous]This is great besides one fact that, based on the amount of "research" you did, not everyone wants to play lacrosse in college. When you look at the seniors playing lacrosse at say, GC, why do you not also account for the fact that the majority also play football and basketball. Why are you not disappointed that they are not playing college football, basketball, etc?
The simple fact - not every kid who plays high school lacrosse wants to play in college. The (new) simple fact - many of the schools that these kids are going to, currently, the entire college team is not playing because their school decided not to even support them playing. GC 21s have the right idea... you, on the other hand, have WAY too much time on your hands...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Floral Park

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

No Dog in this fight but I am confused.... Why are you implying that these other schools have not produced DI lacrosse players in the past? I realize that GC has produced many and maybe not so many in the class that you seem to point at but from what I know many of the other schools that you list have produced a lot of DI players.

I do agree with the premise that "town teams" are not the best way to develop players and get them recruited.[/quote]

Great recruits can be developed anywhere. Bad recruits can come from great high schools. Just because a kid is part of a great high school team does not mean he is a great lacrosse player. It is surprising how many parents think just because one high school team is better that every kid on that team is better than every kid on the lesser team. You will see some kids from a top high school not good enough to play d1 and kids from not so great high schools go d1. You would think that is obvious but some of the top lacrosse high school parents struggle to understand this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

INCORRECT. Just because FLG doesn't post a commit in their rag or TOP 1,000 list doesn't mean someone hasn't committed verbally or otherwise to playing D1 lacrosse. You missed a Nassau school who has 3 commits in the last 2 years with major colleges. Some researcher you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

INCORRECT. Just because FLG doesn't post a commit in their rag or TOP 1,000 list doesn't mean someone hasn't committed verbally or otherwise to playing D1 lacrosse. You missed a Nassau school who has 3 commits in the last 2 years with major colleges. Some researcher you are.

I think the list is for multiple D1 commits for 2021 only. Not 2 years combined. If that was the case the list would be even longer. Long Island Is still strong and getting stronger. It is great to see kids from all over the island competing at the D1 level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

INCORRECT. Just because FLG doesn't post a commit in their rag or TOP 1,000 list doesn't mean someone hasn't committed verbally or otherwise to playing D1 lacrosse. You missed a Nassau school who has 3 commits in the last 2 years with major colleges. Some researcher you are.

I think the list is for multiple D1 commits for 2021 only. Not 2 years combined. If that was the case the list would be even longer. Long Island Is still strong and getting stronger. It is great to see kids from all over the island competing at the D1 level.

Not sure that I understand the point of all of this. Non Traditional Lacrosse High Schools have been putting out D-1 college players since the 70's and 80's. I guess the biggest difference now is the impact that "Club Teams" have had. Pre Club, second and even third tier players from Power House HS programs might get recruited over a stud from a non power HS program. Now, it does not mater what HS program the kid plays for, If they play on a Top club on the Top Team they will get recruited over just about all the players from the power house HS programs.

I will say, I agree with an earlier comment regarding the parents from the power house programs... Many believe that because their kid plays for a State Championship Team that he is a stronger player than kids at other programs. I have heard parents say "if Johnny played for so and so he would be a stud but here is on the 3rd midfield". The reality is that a stud is a stud. That said, a kid on the 3rd midfield at a power house would most likely be on the 2nd or even the 1st at a non traditional program but they would not be a stud. (Stud defined as the players who receive offers from several Top 10 caliber college programs).

Long Island Lacrosse has a lot more competition these days but the Top Players will still be recruited by the Top Programs.

To be eligible for the 2021 National Team Development Program, individuals must be born before August 31, 2007.
U18: The player must be born on or between September 1, 2002 and August 31, 2004. (11th and 12th grade/ graduation years 2023 and 2022)  
U16: The player must be born on or between September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2007. (9th and 10th grade/ graduation years 2024 and 2025)
Its actually hysterical how USL has normalized holdbacks. In NY September 1, 2004 and August 31, 2007 is 2023 and 2024 graduation years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

INCORRECT. Just because FLG doesn't post a commit in their rag or TOP 1,000 list doesn't mean someone hasn't committed verbally or otherwise to playing D1 lacrosse. You missed a Nassau school who has 3 commits in the last 2 years with major colleges. Some researcher you are.

I think the list is for multiple D1 commits for 2021 only. Not 2 years combined. If that was the case the list would be even longer. Long Island Is still strong and getting stronger. It is great to see kids from all over the island competing at the D1 level.

Not sure that I understand the point of all of this. Non Traditional Lacrosse High Schools have been putting out D-1 college players since the 70's and 80's. I guess the biggest difference now is the impact that "Club Teams" have had. Pre Club, second and even third tier players from Power House HS programs might get recruited over a stud from a non power HS program. Now, it does not mater what HS program the kid plays for, If they play on a Top club on the Top Team they will get recruited over just about all the players from the power house HS programs.

I will say, I agree with an earlier comment regarding the parents from the power house programs... Many believe that because their kid plays for a State Championship Team that he is a stronger player than kids at other programs. I have heard parents say "if Johnny played for so and so he would be a stud but here is on the 3rd midfield". The reality is that a stud is a stud. That said, a kid on the 3rd midfield at a power house would most likely be on the 2nd or even the 1st at a non traditional program but they would not be a stud. (Stud defined as the players who receive offers from several Top 10 caliber college programs).

Long Island Lacrosse has a lot more competition these days but the Top Players will still be recruited by the Top Programs.

Agree with everything you say and above comments.

You forgot to add:

**If you are enrolled in college at the start of the 2021 fall college semester, even if under the age of 18, you are not eligible to participate.

So let this be a note to you 2021 seniors going to college, especially the recruited D1 players who want a chance to earn a spot on Team USA...either hold yourself back to try-out...OR...come to terms that US Lacrosse doesn't care about you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown West

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

St. Anthony's doesn't have a D1 commit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Why are you people so fixated on the 2021 commits? You don’t think about the 2020 commits or the 2022 commits. Things change every year and every town at every school. Enough

Curious if D-1 commits translate to winning. Gues we’re about to find out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if D-1 commits translate to winning. Gues we’re about to find out.

That was not said by anyone. Depth will keep the top teams on top. Some very good and deep HS teams out there. Won’t name them because people get offended way to easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if D-1 commits translate to winning. Gues we’re about to find out.

That was not said by anyone. Depth will keep the top teams on top. Some very good and deep HS teams out there. Won’t name them because people get offended way to easy.

It’s how the whole thread on the subject was started!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

What is your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

What is your point?

There is no point. There is no way of knowing if half or any will transfer. The bottom line is that people have to appreciate ANY 2021 who was able to make a division one program especially those that are the proper age and even more so any kid from a public school. The odds are stacked against those kids. No reason to assume half will transfer to a division two or three program. Congratulations to all the 2021 young men who will play lacrosse for any college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

What is your point?

There is no point. There is no way of knowing if half or any will transfer. The bottom line is that people have to appreciate ANY 2021 who was able to make a division one program especially those that are the proper age and even more so any kid from a public school. The odds are stacked against those kids. No reason to assume half will transfer to a division two or three program. Congratulations to all the 2021 young men who will play lacrosse for any college.

Why even more so from "public school"?

Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Totally agree 💯 %. An on age high school kid will not stand a chance in college lacrosse. Lacrosse has always been like the wild Wild West. No rules. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

I agree, when I think of college aged kids, I think 18 to 23 year olds, not 21 year old Freshmen. College lacrosse does feel a little cheapened by having such old players. As for on age players at the high school and youth level, you will continue to see an onslaught of regrading from here on out, which in the end will only further the economic disparity in the sport. Not many parents can afford a 60k a year boarding school and not many parents can afford another year of college.

College lacrosse needs all the viewers they can get, the sport cannot afford to lose any viewership.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

To be real, no one really watches college lacrosse or any other college sport other than football and basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

To be real, no one really watches college lacrosse or any other college sport other than football and basketball.

Very true, a full slate of games this weekend, but College Softball was on. If you're unhappy with how the NCAA is working, the best solution is to complain incessantly on an anonymous lacrosse forum. I am sure it will get right to Mark Emmert.

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

A letter was sent to the NCAA addressing the knee-donk reaction to afford every student-athlete an additional year of eligibility with no regard to the 4-5 years of high school athletes left high and dry. The ripple effect is real and will take years to work through. No response from the NCAA, unlike this forum with some smart remarks from salty lax dads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

Hoping when state policy changes on outdoor gatherings on April 3rd that they allow at a minimum the parents of players to attend.

Unfortunately it is what it is. Plenty of 21 year old freshmen and 25 year old seniors. If your kid is on age 18 year old freshman he is competing against kids 6+ years older. Even many of his fellow freshmen will be 3 years older. It is all so crazy. Now add to that the extra year of eligibility nonsense and you can have 26-27 year old grad students on the roster. NCAA really made a mess of things by giving added eligibility to everyone on last year rosters. Freshmen have been hurt the most.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Unfortunately it is what it is. Plenty of 21 year old freshmen and 25 year old seniors. If your kid is on age 18 year old freshman he is competing against kids 6+ years older. Even many of his fellow freshmen will be 3 years older. It is all so crazy. Now add to that the extra year of eligibility nonsense and you can have 26-27 year old grad students on the roster. NCAA really made a mess of things by giving added eligibility to everyone on last year rosters. Freshmen have been hurt the most.

Agreed it's crazy. I have a 17yo senior. We were watching a game this weekend. 3 of the offensive players were 6 year seniors, one was actually granted a 7th year.

When do kids start their jobs? I mean that’s why I’m sending my kids to college. Get your degree, then it’s the real world. I have it in my head, the real world starts at 22,23. Not 26,27.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

I have no hs or college aged kids.
But it really seems like the NCAA unintentionally screwed future classes to be the good guy and make up for one.

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do kids start their jobs? I mean that’s why I’m sending my kids to college. Get your degree, then it’s the real world. I have it in my head, the real world starts at 22,23. Not 26,27.

PLL is hiring. The older you are the better for your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

Without being disrespectful, because you seem like a decent person, why does ANY college have an obligation to a HS kid? If they don't like it, don't go. There are plenty of options for HS Seniors. Not so many for College Seniors.

I love that part “without being disrespectful “ part just before being disrespectful. Imagine the roles were reversed and your college son was a 2021 HS player. That’s all he’s saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

Without being disrespectful, because you seem like a decent person, why does ANY college have an obligation to a HS kid? If they don't like it, don't go. There are plenty of options for HS Seniors. Not so many for College Seniors.

What about after your kid signs his NLI and then the NCAA grants everyone on his future college team another year of eligibility? That committed HS senior was stuck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

Without being disrespectful, because you seem like a decent person, why does ANY college have an obligation to a HS kid? If they don't like it, don't go. There are plenty of options for HS Seniors. Not so many for College Seniors.

I think all colleges have obligations to high school kids who are going to compete in a college sport. Think of all the rules that are in place to protect those in high school such high school GPA that must be maintained, certain classes taken to be eligible to play for a D1 school, and no coach contact until September 1 junior year. Of all the options out there I do not think one of them is to say to a senior in high school who dreams of playing lacrosse "don't go" and find another option because the college seniors, who had three good years and played a third of their last year, need one more season. That gives college seniors ( and all college players on a team last year) four and one third years playing college lax. Allowing a fifth year also hurts all college players, not just incoming freshman, given the mess that was created moving forward with the large and older rosters. Now a problem continues for the next few years for all freshman through super seniors. I know it is awful for everyone. There is no good remedy that everyone would be happy with. Like I said before, had they increased the scholarship money it would have been better for all involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

If my young adult was considering leaving an Ivy in their senior year to play lacrosse I'd say two things:

1) Good luck with those student loans, they're yours to keep
2) Don't think you're coming home to live with Mom and Dad when you can't get a job because that degree from Maryland means nothing compared to Yale, Brown or Cornell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

Without being disrespectful, because you seem like a decent person, why does ANY college have an obligation to a HS kid? If they don't like it, don't go. There are plenty of options for HS Seniors. Not so many for College Seniors.

I think all colleges have obligations to high school kids who are going to compete in a college sport. Think of all the rules that are in place to protect those in high school such high school GPA that must be maintained, certain classes taken to be eligible to play for a D1 school, and no coach contact until September 1 junior year. Of all the options out there I do not think one of them is to say to a senior in high school who dreams of playing lacrosse "don't go" and find another option because the college seniors, who had three good years and played a third of their last year, need one more season. That gives college seniors ( and all college players on a team last year) four and one third years playing college lax. Allowing a fifth year also hurts all college players, not just incoming freshman, given the mess that was created moving forward with the large and older rosters. Now a problem continues for the next few years for all freshman through super seniors. I know it is awful for everyone. There is no good remedy that everyone would be happy with. Like I said before, had they increased the scholarship money it would have been better for all involved.

You’re assuming the kid played. Not taking into account injury, depth and a slew of other reasons where a college player may have started or saw significant playing time in 5-6 games their whole college career. The vast majority of D-1 players are biding their time to get on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

Without being disrespectful, because you seem like a decent person, why does ANY college have an obligation to a HS kid? If they don't like it, don't go. There are plenty of options for HS Seniors. Not so many for College Seniors.

I think all colleges have obligations to high school kids who are going to compete in a college sport. Think of all the rules that are in place to protect those in high school such high school GPA that must be maintained, certain classes taken to be eligible to play for a D1 school, and no coach contact until September 1 junior year. Of all the options out there I do not think one of them is to say to a senior in high school who dreams of playing lacrosse "don't go" and find another option because the college seniors, who had three good years and played a third of their last year, need one more season. That gives college seniors ( and all college players on a team last year) four and one third years playing college lax. Allowing a fifth year also hurts all college players, not just incoming freshman, given the mess that was created moving forward with the large and older rosters. Now a problem continues for the next few years for all freshman through super seniors. I know it is awful for everyone. There is no good remedy that everyone would be happy with. Like I said before, had they increased the scholarship money it would have been better for all involved.

You’re assuming the kid played. Not taking into account injury, depth and a slew of other reasons where a college player may have started or saw significant playing time in 5-6 games their whole college career. The vast majority of D-1 players are biding their time to get on the field.

Adding an extra year makes it tougher to get on the field for all years except 5th year seniors.

Part of your homework looking into quality schools and playing is knowing if there is a roster cap enforced by the university. Some of them have caps between 45-50, so it's also up to how good the coach is at managing the situation to bring it back down within a year or two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

If my young adult was considering leaving an Ivy in their senior year to play lacrosse I'd say two things:

1) Good luck with those student loans, they're yours to keep
2) Don't think you're coming home to live with Mom and Dad when you can't get a job because that degree from Maryland means nothing compared to Yale, Brown or Cornell.

Regardless of your opinion they did it. Pretty sure not one of their parents said you’re on your own if you take a semester off. I’m sure they are all on here just so impressed with your take!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love that part “without being disrespectful “ part just before being disrespectful. Imagine the roles were reversed and your college son was a 2021 HS player. That’s all he’s saying.

You may be the softest person on here ever! You took that as disrespectful? Toughen up sweetheart, the road through life is tougher than this!

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Will everyone stop with this 'parity' nonsense!

Some mid-major teams showed promise a few years ago and it became more of a catch phrase than 'grow the game'. It's phrases like these that are designed to keep the the industry and money flowing. Respect or Honor the game would've done much more for the game. The growth is about money and will always be about money. About travel clubs and directors ripping off parents. About merchandising and sales.

Parity is just the next catch word to try to keep the dream alive, the industry moving and maintaining commentator jobs all while taking money out of your pockets. You think parity exists? Stop kidding yourself. This past year of extra eligibility has created nothing more than 4-6 super teams that will last for the next few decades. Mid-majors will never catch them.

Parity and grow the game have only done one thing. The rich get richer and the politics last longer.

Look at the rosters and the private school origins. It's about the college coaches praising your son in order to get you to meet prospect day dollars, telling you and the immediate family to come up for a private tour, and stay over Sunday night with a player into Monday, but ignoring you all weekend and the visit doesn't happen.

If that hasn't sunk in, try remembering the IL/USL articles that literally mention the 25-26 year old seniors or grad students. Still don't get it? Ok how about this. If your son is a D1 talent, you better take a close look of your family's financial profile. If it's not great, you're out. Because the 2nd tier of recruits is "pay all tuition+university donor" and the 3rd tier is "pay all tuition"...even if that recruit isn't as good as your young public school stud.

This will all hit you like a freight train, just remember to to laugh through the pain when you see a kid from 'Jesuit Money High School' commit to a mid-tier state university. Because a few weeks later, you'll be walking out of the lacrosse fog smiling knowing you finally got out of the system and your kid is going to have an awesome college experience and future with normalcy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

If my young adult was considering leaving an Ivy in their senior year to play lacrosse I'd say two things:

1) Good luck with those student loans, they're yours to keep
2) Don't think you're coming home to live with Mom and Dad when you can't get a job because that degree from Maryland means nothing compared to Yale, Brown or Cornell.

Maybe I am wrong but I do not believe too many kids are leaving Ivy League schools. It is my understanding that most are taking a "leave / gap / semester or year off" and will return to school and athletics in the fall. Seems like the smart thing to do considering the current circumstances. I believe there are several Ivy grads who are now enrolled at other universities pursuing their graduate degree and also playing lacrosse.

Why knock Maryland? Maryland is an excellent school, no need to be an A$$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

So all those kids kept their seasons dude. They will all be back. No room for anyone else. Do you get it? Or are you dense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

You’re kid wasn’t getting in anyway dopey. No room on the Ivy roster for a knuckleheads kid.

Why does everything on this page have to become insults?? Grow up guys....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

You’re kid wasn’t getting in anyway dopey. No room on the Ivy roster for a knuckleheads kid.

Also no room on the roster for a straight A+ student-athlete, with aced boards–but not held back–whose family doesn't have the political savvy or the money to make donations over the years.

Oh, and for at least one Ivy...the expectation of doing a standing broad jump at the age of 16 is a minimum of 10 feet. Well, that's the weak excuse that will be used to let the player down easily...but everything else is great with the athlete's profile and the coach loves your son's play. Finally, the coach will seal the decision by saying your 100+ or 4.0+ GPA is only average. Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

You’re kid wasn’t getting in anyway dopey. No room on the Ivy roster for a knuckleheads kid.

Also no room on the roster for a straight A+ student-athlete, with aced boards–but not held back–whose family doesn't have the political savvy or the money to make donations over the years.

Oh, and for at least one Ivy...the expectation of doing a standing broad jump at the age of 16 is a minimum of 10 feet. Well, that's the weak excuse that will be used to let the player down easily...but everything else is great with the athlete's profile and the coach loves your son's play. Finally, the coach will seal the decision by saying your 100+ or 4.0+ GPA is only average. Fact!

Oh stop...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Do you think Duke and Lehigh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Do you think Duke and Lehigh?

Do you consider Duke and Lehigh equal?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Do you think Duke and Lehigh?

Do you consider Duke and Lehigh equal?

Absolutely not!! But my oldest of nephew. Choose a school based on play time. He knew he wanted to go to medical school his only requirements for under grad were. Strong Bio department and play time. He knew as well as my brother and his wife that no one gives a garbage where you do your under grad. It’s what the med school degree says. That said. He is doing fantastic and now has residency at Sloan Kettering. Plus he a got a ton of academic money for under grad. And now has less debt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

As adults why do you spend so much time discussing other peoples children's choices in life?

Jealousy and Envy!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many will disagree but the Ivies got it right. You are there for your education. They refused to grant additional eligibility. Although many "scholar athletes" left, the Ivies did not care. In the Ivy League. your education comes first everything else is secondary. Again, many will not agree.

The whole Yale roster dropped out to keep the season, so did Cornell, Brown too. Don't kid yourself.

You just proved his point. I guess reading comprehension was not a required course for you at Suffolk Community College.

You’re kid wasn’t getting in anyway dopey. No room on the Ivy roster for a knuckleheads kid.

Also no room on the roster for a straight A+ student-athlete, with aced boards–but not held back–whose family doesn't have the political savvy or the money to make donations over the years.

Oh, and for at least one Ivy...the expectation of doing a standing broad jump at the age of 16 is a minimum of 10 feet. Well, that's the weak excuse that will be used to let the player down easily...but everything else is great with the athlete's profile and the coach loves your son's play. Finally, the coach will seal the decision by saying your 100+ or 4.0+ GPA is only average. Fact!

Oh stop...

First hand experienced truth. Deny all you want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

Great school but not a top 20 program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

Great school but not a top 20 program.

Bucknell ranked #23 this week only played 1 game. Covid issues. If they win this week vs Leigh will crack the top 20

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

Great school but not a top 20 program.

Bucknell ranked #23 this week only played 1 game. Covid issues. If they win this week vs Leigh will crack the top 20

They are a Program that has teams that are ranked in the Top 20 from time to time, they are not a one of the Top 20 Programs... If Bucknell were an overall good fit for one of my kids I would be very proud if they had the opportunity to attend.

Every kid is different, every school / program is different. Lacrosse is a great hammerhead that helps to get our children into schools that they would otherwise not gain acceptance at.

For some reason, people on this site want to have everyone believe that their choice is the best choice (it's not, it's your choice).

Nassau and Suffolk tryouts are up for the LI Lax Showcase and Regional Championship.

https://www.lilaxshowcase.com/

Is there no more Parochial section?

Guess it is Independent now...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

Bucknell plays in the patriot league and is a top 20 program great choice. Plus you get a great education

Great school but not a top 20 program.

Bucknell ranked #23 this week only played 1 game. Covid issues. If they win this week vs Leigh will crack the top 20

You go to Bucknell for the academics......not lacrosse. If you can use lacrosse to get your kid in when he otherwise wouldn't have a prayer, then you are playing the game correctly. But stop with the ranking nonsense.

P.S. Bucknell coach also happens to be a major donk so buyer beware.

Those Carey D-1 lax players must not be on the football team!

Those Carey D-1 lax players must not be on the football team!

SMH amazing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there no more Parochial section?

No. Says in questions asked section. Only public high schools

come on now. there have been maybe 5 or so D1, or any division for that matter, lacrosse players who can broad jump 10 feet or 120 inches. foolish comment.
Interestingly, that brings up the question as to why do the high end lax camps/events etc hold a combine as part of the camp? I would think it would be great information for the college coaches to analyze.

MIAA finally underway this week. Nice to be able to watch some quality hs lacrosse again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

What is your point?

There is no point. There is no way of knowing if half or any will transfer. The bottom line is that people have to appreciate ANY 2021 who was able to make a division one program especially those that are the proper age and even more so any kid from a public school. The odds are stacked against those kids. No reason to assume half will transfer to a division two or three program. Congratulations to all the 2021 young men who will play lacrosse for any college.

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]One never knows the truth so I did a little research because this topic is important for many reasons and one is NOT to bash Garden City. Numbers are numbers. It is true that lacrosse is spreading across long Island. As it appears for the Long Island Class of 2021 the D1 commits are spread out. Yes some surprise High schools have multiple D1 commits. Most are great academic and/or lacrosse colleges. Here is the list of high schools from Long Island with multiple players going on to play division 1 lacrosse for the class of 2021 (in alphabetical order and split Nassau/Suffolk):

MULTIPLE D1 COMMITS FOR THE CLASS OF 2021

NASSAU

Carey

Carle Place

Chaminade

Farmingdale

Kellenberg

Locust Valley

Manhasset

North Shore

Southside

Syosset

SUFFOLK

Bay Shore

Comsewogue

Harborfields

Huntington

Longwood

Mount Sinai

Shoreham- Wading River

Smithtown East

Smithtown West

St. Anthony's

West Hampton Beach

Feel free to correct if there is an error.

Half of them will transfer in the first two years when they are my playing. A lot go to D2, that’s how the rope D2 schools recruit sometimes, by getting D1 transfers.

What is your point?

There is no point. There is no way of knowing if half or any will transfer. The bottom line is that people have to appreciate ANY 2021 who was able to make a division one program especially those that are the proper age and even more so any kid from a public school. The odds are stacked against those kids. No reason to assume half will transfer to a division two or three program. Congratulations to all the 2021 young men who will play lacrosse for any college.

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Lehigh is a lot closer in stature to Duke than St. Joes is to Bucknell. Even with that said, if what you are paying for tuition is the same, a Duke degree carries much more weight than Lehigh (sans engineering,maybe)

There is no point. There is no way of knowing if half or any will transfer. The bottom line is that people have to appreciate ANY 2021 who was able to make a division one program especially those that are the proper age and even more so any kid from a public school. The odds are stacked against those kids. No reason to assume half will transfer to a division two or three program. Congratulations to all the 2021 young men who will play lacrosse for any college.[/quote]

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?[/quote]

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?[/quote]

Probably not, lax is now for families that have a lot of disposable income. Enough extra cash to send their kids to prep schools, too reclass once or twice, line director's pockets, private lessions etc.
It is terrible IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Lehigh is a lot closer in stature to Duke than St. Joes is to Bucknell. Even with that said, if what you are paying for tuition is the same, a Duke degree carries much more weight than Lehigh (sans engineering,maybe)

Lehigh is not close to Duke at all. Good school, but not even close to being in the same conversation. Even if you don't play much. probably better off staying for the degree. And with teams like Duke blowing out other teams, kids like Mule who is third string, might get in a bit. Now I guess it also comes down to how much you love lacrosse. I was shocked to see a freshman at Yale recently left to go to Syracuse next year. Gotta shake my head at that!

ILNA(Italy Lacrosse North America) will be forming 2 teams on Long Island: a 7/8 and a 9/10. We will be participating in 2 tournaments: Lake Placid and NELS in Sudbury MA. The cost will be $640 for the two tournaments. Players will receive: helmet, uniform, 2 performance shirts and a polo. We will try to hold 2 practices before each tournament. If players are of Italian descent and are interested in playing, email Joe Baccarella at jbaccarella@italialacrosse.us

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With all this extra year nonsense, a handful of our top kids are opting for what others would call mid to low-level D1. The larger than normal rosters are being widely viewed as a scarcity of prospects and potential PT at the top programs by some good players and families. Lots of kids who would have normally looked at top, established programs are looking at teams like Utah, UMBC, Mich, St Joes, Bucknell etc. because they feel like their opportunities to play will occur faster. Expect more parity in college lacrosse in the upcoming years and some mid tier teams to surprise.

Picking a college based on anticipated playing time? That is scary....Johnny is will be going to St. Joe's over Bucknell, we anticipate more playing time!

nothing wrong with that. Look at the Mule brothers, one went to Duke and barely plays, the other Lehigh and an instant starter. All things being equal, why not go where you have a better chance to play?

Lehigh is a lot closer in stature to Duke than St. Joes is to Bucknell. Even with that said, if what you are paying for tuition is the same, a Duke degree carries much more weight than Lehigh (sans engineering,maybe)

Lehigh is not close to Duke at all. Good school, but not even close to being in the same conversation. Even if you don't play much. probably better off staying for the degree. And with teams like Duke blowing out other teams, kids like Mule who is third string, might get in a bit. Now I guess it also comes down to how much you love lacrosse. I was shocked to see a freshman at Yale recently left to go to Syracuse next year. Gotta shake my head at that!

Every school has its pluses and minuses. Is a Duke business degree better than an Lehigh? Maybe, but your education is what you make out of it. My point is all things being equal in the players mind in regards to the college experience outside of lacrosse, choosing to go to a school because of a better chance of playing time is not a ridiculous idea. I would hope that coaches and parents have a reasonable idea of their athletes ability and drive and will help steer them to programs where they can be successful in life and lacrosse.

ILNA(Italy Lacrosse North America) will be forming 2 teams on Long Island: a 7/8 and a 9/10. We will be participating in 2 tournaments: Lake Placid and NELS in Sudbury MA. The cost will be $640 for the two tournaments. Players will receive: helmet, uniform, 2 performance shirts and a polo. We will try to hold 2 practices before each tournament. If players are of Italian descent and are interested in playing, email Joe Baccarella at jbaccarella@italialacrosse.us

what about half italian?

That works.

"what about half italian?"

You can never be made though...

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?[/quote]

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?[/quote]

In NY especially LI whether you go to public school or private/prep school doesn't matter as much than a competitive travel team who plays in better attended tournaments.. Sure there are schools with more history of happening on having great players but they are also typically big population dense programs also vs smaller schools on LI. Travel programs is the focus, and No I am not a travel program owner doing an infomercial , just a parent like most of you

only the good half

Play or not play these kids should go where they will get the best education. Playing lax is icing on the cake. If they suffered an injury would they be happy and get a great education? That is what is important.

The bottom half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?[/quote]

In NY especially LI whether you go to public school or private/prep school doesn't matter as much than a competitive travel team who plays in better attended tournaments.. Sure there are schools with more history of happening on having great players but they are also typically big population dense programs also vs smaller schools on LI. Travel programs is the focus, and No I am not a travel program owner doing an infomercial , just a parent like most of you[/quote]

Cold Spring Harbor , Manhasset and even Garden City are not "Large HS" yet they are three of the best lacrosse programs on Long Island.

I would agree that on age Long Island kids are at a disadvantage when competing against "holdbacks and double holdbacks"... We still put out plenty of big time recruits but it is a clear advantage to be a year or two older than your competition. If I had the chance to do it all over again I would hold my son back a year before starting kindergarten, possibly reclass in the 8th grade and then have him do a PG year...

Your comment regarding playing for a competitive club team is accurate. If a player can compete on one of the Top 2 or 3 Club Teams on Long Island they will most likely have some very good opportunities at some very good universities. The High School team a player players is not as important as the club team when it comes to recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?

In NY especially LI whether you go to public school or private/prep school doesn't matter as much than a competitive travel team who plays in better attended tournaments.. Sure there are schools with more history of happening on having great players but they are also typically big population dense programs also vs smaller schools on LI. Travel programs is the focus, and No I am not a travel program owner doing an infomercial , just a parent like most of you[/quote]

Cold Spring Harbor , Manhasset and even Garden City are not "Large HS" yet they are three of the best lacrosse programs on Long Island.

I would agree that on age Long Island kids are at a disadvantage when competing against "holdbacks and double holdbacks"... We still put out plenty of big time recruits but it is a clear advantage to be a year or two older than your competition. If I had the chance to do it all over again I would hold my son back a year before starting kindergarten, possibly reclass in the 8th grade and then have him do a PG year...

Your comment regarding playing for a competitive club team is accurate. If a player can compete on one of the Top 2 or 3 Club Teams on Long Island they will most likely have some very good opportunities at some very good universities. The High School team a player players is not as important as the club team when it comes to recruiting.[/quote]

I don't think we really disagree. My "big school" comment was probably just cherry picking some of the schools on the large list and currently being in a position that my son plays on a top travel organization however will have a graduating class of about 150 total......so my point to the person was more to dispute that it is not a comparison on prep school vs. public school here locally. Maybe it was when I was that age but not now. Travel team competitiveness is more important

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?

In NY especially LI whether you go to public school or private/prep school doesn't matter as much than a competitive travel team who plays in better attended tournaments.. Sure there are schools with more history of happening on having great players but they are also typically big population dense programs also vs smaller schools on LI. Travel programs is the focus, and No I am not a travel program owner doing an infomercial , just a parent like most of you

Cold Spring Harbor , Manhasset and even Garden City are not "Large HS" yet they are three of the best lacrosse programs on Long Island.

I would agree that on age Long Island kids are at a disadvantage when competing against "holdbacks and double holdbacks"... We still put out plenty of big time recruits but it is a clear advantage to be a year or two older than your competition. If I had the chance to do it all over again I would hold my son back a year before starting kindergarten, possibly reclass in the 8th grade and then have him do a PG year...

Your comment regarding playing for a competitive club team is accurate. If a player can compete on one of the Top 2 or 3 Club Teams on Long Island they will most likely have some very good opportunities at some very good universities. The High School team a player players is not as important as the club team when it comes to recruiting.[/quote]

I don't think we really disagree. My "big school" comment was probably just cherry picking some of the schools on the large list and currently being in a position that my son plays on a top travel organization however will have a graduating class of about 150 total......so my point to the person was more to dispute that it is not a comparison on prep school vs. public school here locally. Maybe it was when I was that age but not now. Travel team competitiveness is more important[/quote]

The prep school kids have a huge advantage over the Long Island public school kids. What everybody is basically saying, and I agree with, is that the Long Island kids must supplement their public school lacrosse with a club program. However, kids who play for schools like Chaminade and prep schools also play on high-level travel clubs. Those prep school coaches have a history of feeding into most of the Division I programs. That alone is a huge advantage for those private schools over MOST public school kids from Long Island. Add to the mix that those prep schools many times have indoor facilities, much better coaching and much more money put into the program. As a result it is a great advantage to be there over a Long Island public school program. What happened to Garden City the past couple years is a perfect example. Basically those kids did not play travel given that the GC team was basically a town program entered in lower level tournaments. The result was no Division I commits. That Garden City team can probably beat most of the prep school teams throughout the country yet cannot get a division one commit this year and last year only had one. That is why it is clear that public school kids, even from Long Island, have a great achievement being able to make any division college team and especially those who made division one. It is a great achievement to be both the proper age, a public school product and be able to commit to a division one program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The odds are not at all stacked against public school kids in New York. Are you completely unfamiliar with lacrosse generally?

Everything else being equal, do you really think proper age public school kids have the same chance as the prep school kids of any age?

In NY especially LI whether you go to public school or private/prep school doesn't matter as much than a competitive travel team who plays in better attended tournaments.. Sure there are schools with more history of happening on having great players but they are also typically big population dense programs also vs smaller schools on LI. Travel programs is the focus, and No I am not a travel program owner doing an infomercial , just a parent like most of you

Cold Spring Harbor , Manhasset and even Garden City are not "Large HS" yet they are three of the best lacrosse programs on Long Island.

I would agree that on age Long Island kids are at a disadvantage when competing against "holdbacks and double holdbacks"... We still put out plenty of big time recruits but it is a clear advantage to be a year or two older than your competition. If I had the chance to do it all over again I would hold my son back a year before starting kindergarten, possibly reclass in the 8th grade and then have him do a PG year...

Your comment regarding playing for a competitive club team is accurate. If a player can compete on one of the Top 2 or 3 Club Teams on Long Island they will most likely have some very good opportunities at some very good universities. The High School team a player players is not as important as the club team when it comes to recruiting.

I don't think we really disagree. My "big school" comment was probably just cherry picking some of the schools on the large list and currently being in a position that my son plays on a top travel organization however will have a graduating class of about 150 total......so my point to the person was more to dispute that it is not a comparison on prep school vs. public school here locally. Maybe it was when I was that age but not now. Travel team competitiveness is more important[/quote]

The prep school kids have a huge advantage over the Long Island public school kids. What everybody is basically saying, and I agree with, is that the Long Island kids must supplement their public school lacrosse with a club program. However, kids who play for schools like Chaminade and prep schools also play on high-level travel clubs. Those prep school coaches have a history of feeding into most of the Division I programs. That alone is a huge advantage for those private schools over MOST public school kids from Long Island. Add to the mix that those prep schools many times have indoor facilities, much better coaching and much more money put into the program. As a result it is a great advantage to be there over a Long Island public school program. What happened to Garden City the past couple years is a perfect example. Basically those kids did not play travel given that the GC team was basically a town program entered in lower level tournaments. The result was no Division I commits. That Garden City team can probably beat most of the prep school teams throughout the country yet cannot get a division one commit this year and last year only had one. That is why it is clear that public school kids, even from Long Island, have a great achievement being able to make any division college team and especially those who made division one. It is a great achievement to be both the proper age, a public school product and be able to commit to a division one program.[/quote]

The only disadvantage I see long Island kids having is that in many other parts of the country it has been more prevalent for kids to be held back, re-classed or do PG year however, it is becoming more common on Long Island. Also, now that recruiting has been pushed back it doesn't hurt a true on age kid as much as when coaches were recruiting 8th and 9th graders.

It doesn't matter how good a player is, if they do not play for a club team that goes to the best tournaments their opportunities will be limited.

Those private school kids have to play club ball because they don’t get on the field at those private schools. Most of those kids are there for the academics.

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

When GC seniors have no D1 commits it is hard to compete with those prep schools. At one time they were able to compete. Being forced to play on the in house travel program hurt the development of the kids. If they all went back to club they would be able to compete again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

When GC seniors have no D1 commits it is hard to compete with those prep schools. At one time they were able to compete. Being forced to play on the in house travel program hurt the development of the kids. If they all went back to club they would be able to compete again.

Doesn't the varsity coach his son's Igloo team?

What does that have to do with anything we are talking about on this topic?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does that have to do with anything we are talking about on this topic?

Maybe he's trying to say the coach's son is not on the in house club team....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

The best public schools in New York absolutely CAN compete with Founders League (LOL) and MIAA teams. Teams like Ward Melville and Garden City would dominate the Founders League in most years. I take it you were exposed to lacrosse for the first time as a parent?

Rosters are full of private school kids because that is where the game is played outside of New York. That being true doesn't mean that anyone playing on Long Island is in any way disadvantaged (aside from previously discussed age-related shenanigans).

DOMINATE in Founders and MIAA you have zero clue.... take a top public school team and you have no shot in that league . That is just the way it is because the amount of talent that is played on those teams you can not compare to a public school those are the facts ... AGAIN look at all the top schools rosters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DOMINATE in Founders and MIAA you have zero clue.... take a top public school team and you have no shot in that league . That is just the way it is because the amount of talent that is played on those teams you can not compare to a public school those are the facts ... AGAIN look at all the top schools rosters

Take into consideration that the rosters of these prep schools are loaded with PG's. I'm sure the great high school programs on LI would match up if they went to grade 13.

There are enough 13th graders in LI publics and on the Clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

The people who come on here to continually pump up GC need to get a clue. They would lose to these Founders league teams by 15+ goals. The current 2021 team would similarly get destroyed by St. Anthony’s, Delbarton, Darien, etc. There is a reason they won’t scrimmage Chaminade which is 1 mile away. GC jumped the shark when they gave the coach free reign with his club team. They had one D1 commit in the 2020 class, none in 2021 and currently 1 in 2022. Time to get a grip GC dads. You are embarrassing yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DOMINATE in Founders and MIAA you have zero clue.... take a top public school team and you have no shot in that league . That is just the way it is because the amount of talent that is played on those teams you can not compare to a public school those are the facts ... AGAIN look at all the top schools rosters

Take into consideration that the rosters of these prep schools are loaded with PG's. I'm sure the great high school programs on LI would match up if they went to grade 13.

Not sure about this year or going forward and I do not think you will see these numbers with regard to college commits (no more early recruiting) but I'm pretty sure some recent Ward Melville Teams would most certainly be able to compete with any HS teams... MIAA and Founders included. Please forgive me if I am off by 1 or 2 or I miss any... Pretty sure Ward Melville 2017 team had kids heading to the following schools (some may have opted not to play or transferred but you get the picture)

Cornell - 2
Brown -1
Georgetown - 1
Navy - 1
Army - 1
Harvard - 1
Providence - 1
Stony Brook - 1
Penn State - 2
Hofstra - 1
Maryland - 1
Syracuse - 1
Bryant - 1
North Carolina - 2
Michigan - 1

in addition several DII and DIII players

Pretty Sure GC's Stronger Teams could compete, West Islips teams of yester year, a Massapequa team or 2, maybe Syosset 2015, maybe a Smithtown team, Manhasset , The best SWR team....

Long Island Championship and New York State Championship caliber teams can compete with anyone.

When Long Island Teams have the depth they can compete. Some years even if they have great players they would struggle if they do not have sufficient depth.

Anyone have information about the movement of teams in public conferences. Not sure if its Nassau and Suffolk or just Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

The people who come on here to continually pump up GC need to get a clue. They would lose to these Founders league teams by 15+ goals. The current 2021 team would similarly get destroyed by St. Anthony’s, Delbarton, Darien, etc. There is a reason they won’t scrimmage Chaminade which is 1 mile away. GC jumped the shark when they gave the coach free reign with his club team. They had one D1 commit in the 2020 class, none in 2021 and currently 1 in 2022. Time to get a grip GC dads. You are embarrassing yourselves.

Darien is a public school and the Founders League is a weak league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DOMINATE in Founders and MIAA you have zero clue.... take a top public school team and you have no shot in that league . That is just the way it is because the amount of talent that is played on those teams you can not compare to a public school those are the facts ... AGAIN look at all the top schools rosters

Ward Melville would be by far the best team in the Founders League most years. There's a huge difference between the FL and MIAA, which you'd know if you were at all familiar with lacrosse as anything other than a disgruntled parent.

WM the best team ok ,,,,,,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM the best team ok ,,,,,,

They were the best team in the country back in 2018. Is that so long ago?

The teams at the top of Founders / NE West are stacked. It is an unfair comparison to publics because most have pg's. But the talent up at those schools is very deep and older with the top ones all having 8+ high level d1 recruits. Perhaps not five years ago, I wasn't aware then, but certainly this year and the last two years.

Gentleman who gives a garbage, as long as your son is able to go to College (Div 1,2,3) get a degree and play some Lacrosse, that's all that should matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams at the top of Founders / NE West are stacked. It is an unfair comparison to publics because most have pg's. But the talent up at those schools is very deep and older with the top ones all having 8+ high level d1 recruits. Perhaps not five years ago, I wasn't aware then, but certainly this year and the last two years.

Teams like Brunswick and Salisbury (neither of them are in the Founders League btw) are often "deeper" in the same way Chaminade and St. Anthony's are. It doesn't mean they're better, though they do tend to be more consistent than smaller publics like GC and Manhasset. If GC is having a bad year or two with recruiting it's more likely than not just a statistical blip.

(I'm in no way a GC booster -- I'm a Catholic school alum from a non-hotbed town, started 4 years D1.)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams at the top of Founders / NE West are stacked. It is an unfair comparison to publics because most have pg's. But the talent up at those schools is very deep and older with the top ones all having 8+ high level d1 recruits. Perhaps not five years ago, I wasn't aware then, but certainly this year and the last two years.

Teams like Brunswick and Salisbury (neither of them are in the Founders League btw) are often "deeper" in the same way Chaminade and St. Anthony's are. It doesn't mean they're better, though they do tend to be more consistent than smaller publics like GC and Manhasset. If GC is having a bad year or two with recruiting it's more likely than not just a statistical blip.

(I'm in no way a GC booster -- I'm a Catholic school alum from a non-hotbed town, started 4 years D1.)

When you get to 3 bad years in a row it not a blip......it is a trend. Don’t tell the crowd at Leo’s, though. They still think GC is some sort of national powerhouse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i agree with some of your statements but in no way can Garden City compete with the teams in the Founders league and the MIAA just too much talent . All you have to do is look at the top schools rosters and see 90% of the team is made up of PREP school kids

The people who come on here to continually pump up GC need to get a clue. They would lose to these Founders league teams by 15+ goals. The current 2021 team would similarly get destroyed by St. Anthony’s, Delbarton, Darien, etc. There is a reason they won’t scrimmage Chaminade which is 1 mile away. GC jumped the shark when they gave the coach free reign with his club team. They had one D1 commit in the 2020 class, none in 2021 and currently 1 in 2022. Time to get a grip GC dads. You are embarrassing yourselves.

So GC will lose the county? Good to know.

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Just tell everyone how bad your son got smacked by GC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Just tell everyone how bad your son got smacked by GC.

If his son got smacked around by GC one would think the guy would not be claiming GC is terrible because it would make his son’s team even worse than GC. It is more likely the guy is from GC and disagrees with how the kids are developing. Just because someone points out that GC has had 3 bad recruiting year in a row because of”daddy ball” or the in house program hurt the development of the kids does not mean GC beat his son’s team. The truth is that the 2021 GC HS team arguably has no D1 talent. Even if GC is the best HS team in the country and smacked around everyone the fact remains that something went wrong for the 2020, 2021 and 2022s. Will GC try and fix that recruiting problem or keep living off of past success pretending nothing is wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Just tell everyone how bad your son got smacked by GC.

If his son got smacked around by GC one would think the guy would not be claiming GC is terrible because it would make his son’s team even worse than GC. It is more likely the guy is from GC and disagrees with how the kids are developing. Just because someone points out that GC has had 3 bad recruiting year in a row because of”daddy ball” or the in house program hurt the development of the kids does not mean GC beat his son’s team. The truth is that the 2021 GC HS team arguably has no D1 talent. Even if GC is the best HS team in the country and smacked around everyone the fact remains that something went wrong for the 2020, 2021 and 2022s. Will GC try and fix that recruiting problem or keep living off of past success pretending nothing is wrong?

I am confused with this Garden City situation. Does the Garden City Varsity Coach profit off of this "in-house" program? Are players coerced into paying to play for this program? Do Garden City players also play for other club teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Just tell everyone how bad your son got smacked by GC.

If his son got smacked around by GC one would think the guy would not be claiming GC is terrible because it would make his son’s team even worse than GC. It is more likely the guy is from GC and disagrees with how the kids are developing. Just because someone points out that GC has had 3 bad recruiting year in a row because of”daddy ball” or the in house program hurt the development of the kids does not mean GC beat his son’s team. The truth is that the 2021 GC HS team arguably has no D1 talent. Even if GC is the best HS team in the country and smacked around everyone the fact remains that something went wrong for the 2020, 2021 and 2022s. Will GC try and fix that recruiting problem or keep living off of past success pretending nothing is wrong?

I am confused with this Garden City situation. Does the Garden City Varsity Coach profit off of this "in-house" program? Are players coerced into paying to play for this program? Do Garden City players also play for other club teams?

I am confused as well. What "in house" program are you talking about? Isn't the GC coach somehow connected to Igloo?

What is the new HS season going to look like for the Spring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the new HS season going to look like for the Spring?

Its going to look bad for the teams that are not competing in the FLG league. The top teams will be fine, the middle teams will struggle against each other and get demolished by the top ones and the bottom teams will probably score less than 2 goals a game. It will be much like other seasons at the end with wins and losses, just the disparity in talent and commitment will be even more evident this year.

For publics; In conference play only no state playoffs. You can go to a restaurant at 75% capacity on Long Island but you can't have more than 2 spectators per player at an outdoor event.

When was the last time GC was NOT in the County final? It would seem there "bad" years would garner some sort of reunion or banner year for every other school in Nassau Class B other than Manhasset. They may not have had mutliple D1's over the the last couple of years, but the program seems to do a pretty good and consistent job of assembling a TEAM that beats most even with a smaller enrollment. Have they lost more than a game or two to any Nassau A teams in the last decade for that matter? Respect from CSH for the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When was the last time GC was NOT in the County final? It would seem there "bad" years would garner some sort of reunion or banner year for every other school in Nassau Class B other than Manhasset. They may not have had mutliple D1's over the the last couple of years, but the program seems to do a pretty good and consistent job of assembling a TEAM that beats most even with a smaller enrollment. Have they lost more than a game or two to any Nassau A teams in the last decade for that matter? Respect from CSH for the program.

How many D1 commits for 2021 does CSH have?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe GC is more than a blip because people got sick of Daddy Ball. Daddy coaches and his kid and his kid's best friends never come off the field. Even though those may not be the best kids. And when it comes to Daddy Ball there is no development of players. Really kind of sad.

Just tell everyone how bad your son got smacked by GC.

If his son got smacked around by GC one would think the guy would not be claiming GC is terrible because it would make his son’s team even worse than GC. It is more likely the guy is from GC and disagrees with how the kids are developing. Just because someone points out that GC has had 3 bad recruiting year in a row because of”daddy ball” or the in house program hurt the development of the kids does not mean GC beat his son’s team. The truth is that the 2021 GC HS team arguably has no D1 talent. Even if GC is the best HS team in the country and smacked around everyone the fact remains that something went wrong for the 2020, 2021 and 2022s. Will GC try and fix that recruiting problem or keep living off of past success pretending nothing is wrong?

His son got smacked around.

CSH has no D1's in the '21 class. Amherst and Middlebury are the top two Sr. players. The '22 class has a few, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Rutgers that I'm aware of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the new HS season going to look like for the Spring?

Its going to look bad for the teams that are not competing in the FLG league. The top teams will be fine, the middle teams will struggle against each other and get demolished by the top ones and the bottom teams will probably score less than 2 goals a game. It will be much like other seasons at the end with wins and losses, just the disparity in talent and commitment will be even more evident this year.

Is FLG doing a spring league like the winter League they did with HS teams????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has no D1's in the '21 class. Amherst and Middlebury are the top two Sr. players. The '22 class has a few, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Rutgers that I'm aware of.

The 22s were always strong. If I remember correct they played together young and then were allowed to play club by 5th grade. Had they stayed in house until HS they may not have had the success they had with the 22 commits. I thought they had 1 D1 for 2021 not zero.

FLG’s top secret league. If you’re not in the inner circle, you won’t be involved in it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has no D1's in the '21 class. Amherst and Middlebury are the top two Sr. players. The '22 class has a few, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Rutgers that I'm aware of.

The 22s were always strong. If I remember correct they played together young and then were allowed to play club by 5th grade. Had they stayed in house until HS they may not have had the success they had with the 22 commits. I thought they had 1 D1 for 2021 not zero.

Can you elaborate on “then they were allowed”? Were they not permitted to play for a club team at some point?

the csh 22's started playing in kindergarten like all other csh players in the program and most of LI. Many played on various club teams in addition to the CSH program from a young age. The group was generally speaking, better lacrosse players than stud multi-sport athletes. A number of the strong players chose to go to private/catholic HS's and reclass elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has no D1's in the '21 class. Amherst and Middlebury are the top two Sr. players. The '22 class has a few, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Rutgers that I'm aware of.

The 22s were always strong. If I remember correct they played together young and then were allowed to play club by 5th grade. Had they stayed in house until HS they may not have had the success they had with the 22 commits. I thought they had 1 D1 for 2021 not zero.

Can you elaborate on “then they were allowed”? Were they not permitted to play for a club team at some point?

They were always able to play for a club team. Prior to fifth grade, meaning third and fourth grade, they would enter as a town team into B level tournaments against 2021 club teams. Although they did not win as much as much as they would have had they played against 22s they certainly got a lot better playing up in the 2021 division. For some reason around fifth grade they stopped doing that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH has no D1's in the '21 class. Amherst and Middlebury are the top two Sr. players. The '22 class has a few, Dartmouth, Lehigh, Rutgers that I'm aware of.

The 22s were always strong. If I remember correct they played together young and then were allowed to play club by 5th grade. Had they stayed in house until HS they may not have had the success they had with the 22 commits. I thought they had 1 D1 for 2021 not zero.

Can you elaborate on “then they were allowed”? Were they not permitted to play for a club team at some point?

They were always able to play for a club team. Prior to fifth grade, meaning third and fourth grade, they would enter as a town team into B level tournaments against 2021 club teams. Although they did not win as much as much as they would have had they played against 22s they certainly got a lot better playing up in the 2021 division. For some reason around fifth grade they stopped doing that.

Too many parents thought they knew best and focused on their own path...group splintered and jumped from team to team annually...apparently all the coaches got it wrong and didn't see the talent they saw.

Seems that there are an awful lot of "bitter dads" on here who think GC, Manhasset, and CSH are suddenly bad programs. Jealousy is an ugly thing. Just because your son isn't good enough to play for those programs, or his team was beaten by them, or more likely "daddy" can't afford any of those three communities, don't try to make yourself feel better by bashing them here.

I don't understand why those three towns are being bashed. Why, because a portion of those towns the parents make really good money. who cares, jealous is an ugly thing. The bantering that goes on on this site is hysterical. Why cant everyone root for there own child and team and leave it at that. I never understood why you have to come on here to knock a town, travel program even a kid. Every town, travel program has there fair share of arrogant. To be honest at tournaments that i was at when my son was younger those towns the parents were the most quiet, there were a lot of other towns that had some foolish parents. I wish all your kids good luck this season and in the future, grow up gentleman. BTW I don't leave in any of those three towns.

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Maybe go back a few posts. Come on do better.

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bro who cares if the whole team is going D-1, everyone should just worry about there own kid and team and cheer for that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

FACTS
GC will be relevant for years to come. Strong youth programs and parents that played the game
Manhasset dropped to C conference due to enrollment. Will continue to dominate
CSH strong youth program will always compete at top in Nassau C/D. BTW they are a Suffolk school playing Nassau conference, just sayin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

FACTS
GC will be relevant for years to come. Strong youth programs and parents that played the game
Manhasset dropped to C conference due to enrollment. Will continue to dominate
CSH strong youth program will always compete at top in Nassau C/D. BTW they are a Suffolk school playing Nassau conference, just sayin.

GC dads who played the game are mostly 5’8” moderately athletic guys from the early 1990s. In other words, they’d be lucky to be playing club lax today. Such a dopey post above/. It reveals the entitlement, arrogance and total lack of self awareness that collectively explain why GC lacrosse has been (and will continue to be) in a downward spiral. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

Great analogy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

FACTS
GC will be relevant for years to come. Strong youth programs and parents that played the game
Manhasset dropped to C conference due to enrollment. Will continue to dominate
CSH strong youth program will always compete at top in Nassau C/D. BTW they are a Suffolk school playing Nassau conference, just sayin.

You mention mostly opinions based on few questionable facts. Facts are no d1 commits for GC 2021 and travel in house program played in B and C tournaments. Those are facts. Opinion, they will still be successful in HS because they are deeper than most schools. No or only one great player but deep with D3 talent. That formula works in HS. It will be interesting to see how they do for the first year ever competing with only one d1 commit.

I guess all the Dad's from Carey, Calhoun etc., must be 5'6 non athletic guys that played baseball then...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

FACTS
GC will be relevant for years to come. Strong youth programs and parents that played the game
Manhasset dropped to C conference due to enrollment. Will continue to dominate
CSH strong youth program will always compete at top in Nassau C/D. BTW they are a Suffolk school playing Nassau conference, just sayin.

GC dads who played the game are mostly 5’8” moderately athletic guys from the early 1990s. In other words, they’d be lucky to be playing club lax today. Such a dopey post above/. It reveals the entitlement, arrogance and total lack of self awareness that collectively explain why GC lacrosse has been (and will continue to be) in a downward spiral. The first step is admitting you have a problem.

Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher.

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

You really need to stop with the GC envy and commit nonsense. If you have a strong youth program and town culture of lacrosse, good coaching and above average athletes you'll be successful for years. Oh wait isnt that what GC is? Stop with the commit this and commit that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

Wait what? Offensive structure in the youth game?

Youth lax should be about throwing, catching and having fun. Only the dad himself cares about his own lax career 30 years ago.

And car

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

Wait what? Offensive structure in the youth game?

Youth lax should be about throwing, catching and having fun. Only the dad himself cares about his own lax career 30 years ago.

and carvel after the game. win or lose

Agreed on the Carvel. Teaching the game and hopefully preparing them for jr. high play is somewhat important as well seeing that most jr. hi coaches have no lax experience and take the paycheck to go out and babysit the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed on the Carvel. Teaching the game and hopefully preparing them for jr. high play is somewhat important as well seeing that most jr. hi coaches have no lax experience and take the paycheck to go out and babysit the kids.

Middle School is unwatchable, way worse than PAL. Kids are forced to stick with travel teams in order to continue developing.

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

The Best League in the Nation kicked off yesterday.
Calvert Hall Beat Gilman 11-10
Spalding beat Severn 13-5
St Mary's Beat John Carroll 9-6
McD beats MSJ. BL, St Pauls and Loyola start Friday.

When was the last time Gilman was within a goal of the Hall?

Hall in need of out of state transfers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

Of course most parents teach kids to be team players. You are suggesting that all those kids who committed to compete at the division one level from Long Island are not team players and were taught differently. I think the point is that although everybody wants to win championships the goal for many is also to play d1 college lacrosse. This is a especially so at the top high school lacrosse programs like Garden City. To suggest that these kids will not be team players show a lack of understanding of of the recruitment process. These kids are scrutinized big time and all seem to have passed the background check and is he a team player check that they all must go through. This goes for all divisions not only division one. Also, it has to be considered a failure for top level high schools to not be able to get any or very few kids committed to division one lacrosse programs. So don’t pretend having no d1 commits for any one year is not a failure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

Wait what? Offensive structure in the youth game?

Youth lax should be about throwing, catching and having fun. Only the dad himself cares about his own lax career 30 years ago.

I hear guys talk about what happened in elementary school, let alone their lifeless lax career. Better yet, some of them forget how many times they tell the same story over and over again. Offensive structure at the youth level? What a BUNCH OF JOKES!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

By GC parents saying my kid’s HS (GardenCity) will beat your HS it invites the comeback from a D1 college commits to say my college team being D1 will beat your GC kids D3 college team. Just thought you should know what people are thinking each time GC parents claim our HS lacrosse team will beat yours. Continue on.

"Just thought you should know what people are thinking each time GC parents claim our HS lacrosse team will beat yours. "

Wrong, they think: "yup, again. I wish I had studied harder and not gone to sprats or wwf matches as often as I did so I could've better prepared myself to live in a town that I actually aspired to so my kids would have a better opportunity and not where I am stuck now." That is the thought. And if it isn't, you are lying to yourself.

No one can hold a candle to Fudgy !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

By GC parents saying my kid’s HS (GardenCity) will beat your HS it invites the comeback from a D1 college commits to say my college team being D1 will beat your GC kids D3 college team. Just thought you should know what people are thinking each time GC parents claim our HS lacrosse team will beat yours. Continue on.

If you think a HS program should be dedicated to your son becoming a D-1 commit, you're foolish. If your only goal for your son is to become a D-1 commit, you are foolish. If you think there is a pot of gold at the end of the lacrosse rainbow you are foolish. Continue on

Flying saucers are in the running.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

By GC parents saying my kid’s HS (GardenCity) will beat your HS it invites the comeback from a D1 college commits to say my college team being D1 will beat your GC kids D3 college team. Just thought you should know what people are thinking each time GC parents claim our HS lacrosse team will beat yours. Continue on.

If you think a HS program should be dedicated to your son becoming a D-1 commit, you're foolish. If your only goal for your son is to become a D-1 commit, you are foolish. If you think there is a pot of gold at the end of the lacrosse rainbow you are foolish. Continue on

I do think that a HS should develop the team and the individual players especially when the parents pay 2-3K to play on the in house club team. Doing that and the result getting into an average d3 lacrosse program and decent liberal arts (low on the graduate pay scale) academic college is not a good result. But everyone has different standards on what they consider successful and foolish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Having dads who played growing up is a huge advantage, especially at the youth level. You don't need to have started at Princeton in the 90s to be a good, informed teacher."

So true... the benefit of having played or even been on the team in a college program and exposure to offensive structure and drills at that level is a tremendous experience that manifests itself in better coaching, no matter from what decade, the fundamental concepts really have not changed that much over time. Not every town at every age level really has that depth--even in the "good programs".

Wait what? Offensive structure in the youth game?

Youth lax should be about throwing, catching and having fun. Only the dad himself cares about his own lax career 30 years ago.

"Offensive structure" at that age means spreading out on the field and constantly moving around, and there's nothing wrong with teaching that to even very young kids.

Time to change the subject. This should be a safe topic. Does anyone have a list of high schools who are allowing visiting parents to attend games and what the restrictions are for the visitors?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The amount of "non-athlete" daddy's on here is amazing. Guys who think a HS program's success is based on D-1 commits. If you ever played the game, or any sport for that matter you would understand it is the Team, not the I. that's why so many of your sons will fail at the college level. Once it's not about junior he will walk away from the game. All because his daddy told him it's about the "commitment" not being a team player, and that the team win is more important. Oh well, good luck with your 3-7 season while GC beats your behind again.

Of course most parents teach kids to be team players. You are suggesting that all those kids who committed to compete at the division one level from Long Island are not team players and were taught differently. I think the point is that although everybody wants to win championships the goal for many is also to play d1 college lacrosse. This is a especially so at the top high school lacrosse programs like Garden City. To suggest that these kids will not be team players show a lack of understanding of of the recruitment process. These kids are scrutinized big time and all seem to have passed the background check and is he a team player check that they all must go through. This goes for all divisions not only division one. Also, it has to be considered a failure for top level high schools to not be able to get any or very few kids committed to division one lacrosse programs. So don’t pretend having no d1 commits for any one year is not a failure.

One of the silliest things written on here. You’re opinion on the recruiting process is incredibly flawed. Shows an utter lack of understanding. Seems like you missed the boat on athletics at every level. Little league baseball isn’t college sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time to change the subject. This should be a safe topic. Does anyone have a list of high schools who are allowing visiting parents to attend games and what the restrictions are for the visitors?

Section 8, Nassau still at 2 spectators per player, ridiculous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Flying saucers are in the running.

Yes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time to change the subject. This should be a safe topic. Does anyone have a list of high schools who are allowing visiting parents to attend games and what the restrictions are for the visitors?

Section 8, Nassau still at 2 spectators per player, ridiculous

There are schools that don’t allow visiting parents. It would be nice if each school had their policy on their web page. From what I understand there are parents going to games they are not allowed to go to. Some of this could be avoided by just posting a policy where people can find it.

Most of the high schools are switching this policy since a football player was taken out in an ambulance and his parents were not at the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time to change the subject. This should be a safe topic. Does anyone have a list of high schools who are allowing visiting parents to attend games and what the restrictions are for the visitors?

Section 8, Nassau still at 2 spectators per player, ridiculous

There are schools that don’t allow visiting parents. It would be nice if each school had their policy on their web page. From what I understand there are parents going to games they are not allowed to go to. Some of this could be avoided by just posting a policy where people can find it.

Hopefully by lax season visiting spectators will be allowed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time to change the subject. This should be a safe topic. Does anyone have a list of high schools who are allowing visiting parents to attend games and what the restrictions are for the visitors?

Section 8, Nassau still at 2 spectators per player, ridiculous

There are schools that don’t allow visiting parents. It would be nice if each school had their policy on their web page. From what I understand there are parents going to games they are not allowed to go to. Some of this could be avoided by just posting a policy where people can find it.

Hopefully by lax season visiting spectators will be allowed.

Any ideas when the Nassau/Suffolk schedules will be released ?

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

I can say one thing with fair certainty. If boys lacrosse is still labeled a high risk sport thus forcing kids to test weekly both Nassau and Suffolk's seasons are going to be a mess.
Football only plays one game a week, and most schools have been giving their kids off two days before testing to prevent shutting down and STILL we see programs missing games and throwing schedules into complete disarray. Now imagine 3 games a week and a team having to sit for 10 days.
Parents HAVE to pressure local politicians in both counties to follow what the NFHS and NCAA have already done. DROP LACROSSE FROM HIGH RISK.

NFHS stopped the risk categories a few months ago

exactly my point and for years we have mirrored their decisions....the NCAA also lowered lacrosse into the intermediate risk.... for whatever reason (fear) suffolk and nassau county will not change this....
understand that what they are doing in most districts is quarantining a team from practices and games but not school??? So it isnt about safety its about fear and accountability....
the ONLY way this gets changed is if parents go off and make local politicians uncomfortable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

exactly my point and for years we have mirrored their decisions....the NCAA also lowered lacrosse into the intermediate risk.... for whatever reason (fear) suffolk and nassau county will not change this....
understand that what they are doing in most districts is quarantining a team from practices and games but not school??? So it isnt about safety its about fear and accountability....
the ONLY way this gets changed is if parents go off and make local politicians uncomfortable

The administrators are only interested in publicizing how safe they've kept the students. The students are NOT the ones getting sick. The schools sit on their rears while kids are missing out on being kids, not just sports but all extracurriculars. You can sit inside at a restaurant but not outside at an away event. How does that make any sense. Given a little power the school administrators have run amok. You'll be marked absent if you miss a class but what happens when a teacher has been cancelling all year? Insanity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

lol

Many people say C Is tougher than B. Is there any argument that this could be true? It does appear C is strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

lol

B always has Garden City, C always has Cold Spring Harbor.

Some years B is better, some years C is better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

Who makes the schedule? The coach or section VIII

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk schedules are out on Section xi site

Nassau schedules are up on the Section VIII site too.

Lots of teams moved conferences. Is that because of enrollment numbers or past performances? Seems nothing is consistent with other sports, some secret formula not published anywhere. Manhasset now in Nassau C but may be tougher for them because of CSH and Locust Valley.

It could also make it harder for the top Suffolk teams to get off the island.

No getting off the Island this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No getting off the Island this year

Correct. There is NO state tournament this year. Public schools play in conference schedule only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

The 2024's wont compete with GC CSH SS or even Lynbrook.

Nassau County Lacrosse Coaches Association and also Section 8 websites are the worst. Zero information, nothing ever updated. It's no wonder there is always so much confusion and infighting.

Agree. Not easy to figure out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

The 2024's wont compete with GC CSH SS or even Lynbrook.

Why not there 2024's they always where the top team in PAL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

The 2024's wont compete with GC CSH SS or even Lynbrook.

Why not there 2024's they always where the top team in PAL.

Best players left for Pvt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

The 2024's wont compete with GC CSH SS or even Lynbrook.

Why not there 2024's they always where the top team in PAL.

Best players left for Pvt.

they were not the top team in 2024 PAL but lets see how they develop over the next 4 seasons. There are some real good Nassau HS teams at that age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are people saying they are bad programs? Manhasset will be the best team out there in my opinion. GC and CSH will be very good and playing for championships. . People are pointing out facts that have not been rebutted other than playing the jealously card. Instead of playing the jealousy card point out why these posts are wrong. If GC and CSH have more than one d1 commit for 2021 prove them wrong. If they are more successful now than they have been in the past glory years show some facts or stats and prove them wrong. Playing the jealousy gets you nowhere other than showing you can’t prove them wrong and what they are saying could be correct.

Manhasset will be the best for the next three seasons. 2021 & 2022 have two of the top players in the nation and the 2023 class is loaded.

The 2024's wont compete with GC CSH SS or even Lynbrook.

Why not there 2024's they always where the top team in PAL.

Best players left for Pvt.

Going to be seeing a lot of that due to the recent NCAA decision to give current players the extra years eligibility. There is a log jam of talent and the incoming classes will be hurt for the next several years. I know of several 2021 legitimate D1 players who finally gave up trying to play in college. The transfer portal has altered the recruiting and rosters as well. Does anyone think TD Ierlan should be playing against 18 and 19yo college kids. What class is he actually taking at DU? The NCAA can't make up its mind.

It’s like the Wild Wild West. No rules and it’s screwing the high school kids.

Why don’t you start a tournament with the “high school” teams this summer. Have it in NJ or PA or even MD. Just like the NHSLC

Listen to the lacrosse commentators during the next D1 game you watch and you'll hear how great it is that these Men were given another bite at the apple and this 5th year or 6th-7th year senior is playing. Yeah ask the kids sitting on the bench and ask them how great it is watching these Men transfer in from other teams or stick around for another year-not so great.

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen to the lacrosse commentators during the next D1 game you watch and you'll hear how great it is that these Men were given another bite at the apple and this 5th year or 6th-7th year senior is playing. Yeah ask the kids sitting on the bench and ask them how great it is watching these Men transfer in from other teams or stick around for another year-not so great.

Yup! Most Freshman continue to be screwed by a terrible decision letting kids back.

In order to avoid the recruiting mess, a ton of parents will choose to reclass their 2023’s. Reclassing to 2024 is really the only way to get out from under what the NCAA did. Sitting behind 4 years of players with a transfer portal that is out of control does not sound like fun.

Manhsset is loaded...but not as loaded as the parents on the sidelines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhsset is loaded...but not as loaded as the parents on the sidelines

Did it take you all week to come up with that one? The least you can do is spell Manhasset correctly!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhsset is loaded...but not as loaded as the parents on the sidelines

Classless!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhsset is loaded...but not as loaded as the parents on the sidelines

Classless!

How does this nonsense make it past anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

I agree with this guy

No bro... it didn't take me all week. I just said it....boom. saucey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

From a dad with a kid in college. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way but every HS senior doesn't get a re-do. Life doesn't work that way and it has really messed with the natural order of things.

"Manhsset is loaded...but not as loaded as the parents on the sidelines"

LOL. Agreed, how did this nonsense make it past whoever is screening messages for content. That being said, pretty accurate observation. Seems to be part of the culture in that town from my observations over the years.

Testing to continue during HS lax season....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

From a dad with a kid in college. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way but every HS senior doesn't get a re-do. Life doesn't work that way and it has really messed with the natural order of things.

It's lacrosse. You're putting way too much into it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

From a dad with a kid in college. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way but every HS senior doesn't get a re-do. Life doesn't work that way and it has really messed with the natural order of things.

I agree. The NCAA really didn't think this through. By being "fair", they created a train wreck that is going to last for *many* years. Hopefully, there isn't the next time, but if there is, "Sorry the season was canceled. Yeah, COVID stunk for everyone. Sorry again. Good luck with the rest of your life." would be a lot better for a lot more people in the long run.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

From a dad with a kid in college. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way but every HS senior doesn't get a re-do. Life doesn't work that way and it has really messed with the natural order of things.

I agree. The NCAA really didn't think this through. By being "fair", they created a train wreck that is going to last for *many* years. Hopefully, there isn't the next time, but if there is, "Sorry the season was canceled. Yeah, COVID stunk for everyone. Sorry again. Good luck with the rest of your life." would be a lot better for a lot more people in the long run.

Who does the train wreck affect? Not the kids in college. So I guess the NCAA made the right choice.

I’d argue that it did effect kids in college. That transfer portal is out of control. Look at the roster sizes this year, nearly 70 players at Denver? How does having an extra year of players, a huge bench and rotating new players into the mix not affect the entire team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Correct NCAA made this a complete mess no reason for Juniors Soph and Fresh to get an extra year senior give them one and done but now the back log in lacrosse is rediculous . If anyone think a 2021, 2022 , or 2023 are going to come into a team and be an impact it is going to be very difficult rosters are loaded and you still have transfer portal ....

The HS kids are owed nothing by the NCAA or the university. The student athletes on the team have put in the time and effort. They are owed loyalty by the school.

From a dad with a kid in college. I don't mean that in a sarcastic way but every HS senior doesn't get a re-do. Life doesn't work that way and it has really messed with the natural order of things.

I agree. The NCAA really didn't think this through. By being "fair", they created a train wreck that is going to last for *many* years. Hopefully, there isn't the next time, but if there is, "Sorry the season was canceled. Yeah, COVID stunk for everyone. Sorry again. Good luck with the rest of your life." would be a lot better for a lot more people in the long run.

Who does the train wreck affect? Not the kids in college. So I guess the NCAA made the right choice.

half those kids should be in the pros already

I feel bad for the dad that held his kid back once...or even twice.....that coached his kid as much as possible....making sure his kid payed attack and faced off all the time....was always on man up....scored a bunch of goals.....made sure his kid was on the best travel teams.....went to every prospect camp.....and now his kid is riding the bench waiting for all these older kids to cycle through their extra year or even two because of COVID. Yeah...I feel bad for that dad! LOL. I actually feel bad for that kid.....

Originally Posted by laxlurker

I feel bad for the dad that held his kid back once...or even twice.....that coached his kid as much as possible....making sure his kid payed attack and faced off all the time....was always on man up....scored a bunch of goals.....made sure his kid was on the best travel teams.....went to every prospect camp.....and now his kid is riding the bench waiting for all these older kids to cycle through their extra year or even two because of COVID. Yeah...I feel bad for that dad! LOL. I actually feel bad for that kid.....

You seem bitter and sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

I feel bad for the dad that held his kid back once...or even twice.....that coached his kid as much as possible....making sure his kid payed attack and faced off all the time....was always on man up....scored a bunch of goals.....made sure his kid was on the best travel teams.....went to every prospect camp.....and now his kid is riding the bench waiting for all these older kids to cycle through their extra year or even two because of COVID. Yeah...I feel bad for that dad! LOL. I actually feel bad for that kid.....

You seem bitter and sad.

Agree... original quote demonstrates the stupidity of one particular person. We all should feel bad for the HS players for the next couple of years. Not because some may sit on a bench in college but because many of them won't even get to play lacrosse in college and experience the comradery of being part of a team. They may not have been the fool in their HS but they were certainly good enough to play in college and now won't have the opportunity because of the knock-on effect of the college players that all get an extra year of eligibility. Nobody is angry at the college student. Parents and players are upset with the NCAA because the parents may have wanted something better for their son and the player won't have the opportunity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

I feel bad for the dad that held his kid back once...or even twice.....that coached his kid as much as possible....making sure his kid payed attack and faced off all the time....was always on man up....scored a bunch of goals.....made sure his kid was on the best travel teams.....went to every prospect camp.....and now his kid is riding the bench waiting for all these older kids to cycle through their extra year or even two because of COVID. Yeah...I feel bad for that dad! LOL. I actually feel bad for that kid.....

You seem bitter and sad.

Agree... original quote demonstrates the stupidity of one particular person. We all should feel bad for the HS players for the next couple of years. Not because some may sit on a bench in college but because many of them won't even get to play lacrosse in college and experience the comradery of being part of a team. They may not have been the fool in their HS but they were certainly good enough to play in college and now won't have the opportunity because of the knock-on effect of the college players that all get an extra year of eligibility. Nobody is angry at the college student. Parents and players are upset with the NCAA because the parents may have wanted something better for their son and the player won't have the opportunity.

How is that different from the parents with kids in school? Who want to play, but 2 years in they have 6 games under their belt and every week is uncertain. They’ve been busting their butts for these schools for two years with barely anything to show. But cry a River for the HS kid.

It’s funny college dad that you would feel exactly the same as HS dad is your son was still in HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s funny college dad that you would feel exactly the same as HS dad is your son was still in HS.

How about writing this in English.

Down goes Calvert Hall

St Mary’s 7 Calvert hall 6

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

No wonder they wanted my 17 year old senior to reclass as a 2022 and they would sign him. Probably would red shirt him the first year too. SMH

25 year olds playing college lacrosse, a sport nobody but the parents and Quint care about is just embarrassing. Time to get a life! smh

I totally agree. I just don’t understand cheating at a sport that no one watches, but mommy and daddy. I would think those 25 year olds would be embarrassed playing against those so much younger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I totally agree. I just don’t understand cheating at a sport that no one watches, but mommy and daddy. I would think those 25 year olds would be embarrassed playing against those so much younger.

Will be even be more embarrassing when they lose. Rutgers will be shut down quick. Duke won't win either. Sowers has been exposed and is no longer a contender. I'm hoping for ND, although there super senior fogo was shut down by a freshman last week. I'm rooting for the young guys to make their mark!

Are there even any serious Tewaaraton finalists that aren’t super seniors besides Chris Gray? The others shouldn’t even be considered.

Even as a LI guy playing in my day and 10 yrs into coaching my kids on LI, cant help but admire the depth, skill and competitiveness of the MIAA between pretty much all of the teams in the league. Every couple of years there is a new top dog. No tears shed over CH getting beat!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Embarrassing!

So so wrong!

If this is college lacrosse, I don’t want to go out of my way, or out of my
pocket to do it anymore!

And the way they’re actively gloating about their combined ages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

TD Ierlan now with his 3rd team as graduate transfer mid season, how is that even allowed? Players get recruited, offered a scholarship, all the sudden they don't like team or coach and wind up on transfer portal, kids commit and decommit 3x before they even go off to a school. NCAA has no idea how to manage any of it, and that goes for ALL sports. It's hard to watch any college sport right now, The definition of a college athlete doesn't mean much anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Embarrassing!

So so wrong!

If this is college lacrosse, I don’t want to go out of my way, or out of my
pocket to do it anymore!

And the way they’re actively gloating about their combined ages.

So, I think I learned something to get my kid in the news.... hold him back after 8th grade, then go to a private school, then transfer him to public holding him back again, then send him to a PG after high school, go to freshman year but don't play in the Spring, then enter the transfer portal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I totally agree. I just don’t understand cheating at a sport that no one watches, but mommy and daddy. I would think those 25 year olds would be embarrassed playing against those so much younger.

What happens to the 25 year old senior who has been in college for 7 years when he applies for a job? I'll tell you....he gets laughed out of the room.

Bingo! They should have an on age lax league. Then all the holdbacks/reclass guys can be called semi-pro

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I totally agree. I just don’t understand cheating at a sport that no one watches, but mommy and daddy. I would think those 25 year olds would be embarrassed playing against those so much younger.

What happens to the 25 year old senior who has been in college for 7 years when he applies for a job? I'll tell you....he gets laughed out of the room.

Laughed out of his interview with the former lax playing alumni from his school or his teammates dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

TD Ierlan now with his 3rd team as graduate transfer mid season, how is that even allowed? Players get recruited, offered a scholarship, all the sudden they don't like team or coach and wind up on transfer portal, kids commit and decommit 3x before they even go off to a school. NCAA has no idea how to manage any of it, and that goes for ALL sports. It's hard to watch any college sport right now, The definition of a college athlete doesn't mean much anymore.

Back in the pre-snowflake days there used to be a term for this:

SCAB

There is no way to defend this sport when someone says lacrosse is a "rich kids sport". Mom and Dad supporting a 25 year old playing lax. How much money do these families have?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

TD Ierlan now with his 3rd team as graduate transfer mid season, how is that even allowed? Players get recruited, offered a scholarship, all the sudden they don't like team or coach and wind up on transfer portal, kids commit and decommit 3x before they even go off to a school. NCAA has no idea how to manage any of it, and that goes for ALL sports. It's hard to watch any college sport right now, The definition of a college athlete doesn't mean much anymore.

Back in the pre-snowflake days there used to be a term for this:

SCAB

Dude they do this in college basketball and football constantly. Players go to Duke for a semester then go pro. Please with the nonsense. Don't watch any sports, seems you cannot evolve. This is it, deal or have your kid play D-3, it's still legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bingo! They should have an on age lax league. Then all the holdbacks/reclass guys can be called semi-pro

They do. It's called the PLL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Nobody is blaming the "kids" young men but there is a level of absurdity to be a 5th year player and be 23 or older. I realize there are unique circumstances such as some players trying junior hockey and then deciding to go back to college but this is the exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Nobody is blaming the "kids" young men but there is a level of absurdity to be a 5th year player and be 23 or older. I realize there are unique circumstances such as some players trying junior hockey and then deciding to go back to college but this is the exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Nobody is blaming the "kids" young men but there is a level of absurdity to be a 5th year player and be 23 or older. I realize there are unique circumstances such as some players trying junior hockey and then deciding to go back to college but this is the exception.

I’m sure they’re all great people. A 25 year old still has no business playing college sports. Normal kids graduate at 22. I think this is beyond ridiculous and embarrassing. NCAA should have never granted an extra year. Where does it end? Should be like HS. You get 4 years period. Sometimes circumstances arise that are unfortunate, but that’s life!

If you are an on age college freshman, you are 18 competing against 25 year old teammates. Just let that sink in for a minute.

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

There are a handful of freshman playing you have no clue what you are talking about , rosters are at 60 plus , half the kids stay home to watch the team play on the weekend . Oh did i mention that this does not end for 3 more years because of the transfer portal so if you say a statement make sure you know the facts. High school kids coming into college next year and the 2 following years are screwed as well . Remember the current freshman class did not ask for 60 plus kids on a roster they went to the school looking at what kids were leaving and now with the transfer portal they can take a 25 year old over the current commit coming in so it does not end . Kids just want an opportunity and they are clearly not getting it for the next 3 years ......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no way to defend this sport when someone says lacrosse is a "rich kids sport". Mom and Dad supporting a 25 year old playing lax. How much money do these families have?

That may be the definition of white privilege.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a handful of freshman playing you have no clue what you are talking about , rosters are at 60 plus , half the kids stay home to watch the team play on the weekend . Oh did i mention that this does not end for 3 more years because of the transfer portal so if you say a statement make sure you know the facts. High school kids coming into college next year and the 2 following years are screwed as well . Remember the current freshman class did not ask for 60 plus kids on a roster they went to the school looking at what kids were leaving and now with the transfer portal they can take a 25 year old over the current commit coming in so it does not end . Kids just want an opportunity and they are clearly not getting it for the next 3 years ......

Exactly! And don’t forget about the kids currently enrolled at Ivies who just got one more year since they didn’t play!

So true. This is depressing.

Don’t forget that these 60 kid rosters are full of recruits who are on the team as squads , not starters. Sourced it straight from the horses. One coach told me that they recruited a girl just so her team would not have to play against her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Nobody is blaming the "kids" young men but there is a level of absurdity to be a 5th year player and be 23 or older. I realize there are unique circumstances such as some players trying junior hockey and then deciding to go back to college but this is the exception.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything that's wrong with this game:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...ides-kirst-mullins-to-2021-success/57662

and the incessant need to promote.

1000% spot on

25 years old !!!

Its hard to like this sport anymore....

Did you even read the article? One kid has had his college career wrecked by injury, one kid is playing on his 5th year, and one kid is a great person. Get over yourself.

Nobody is blaming the "kids" young men but there is a level of absurdity to be a 5th year player and be 23 or older. I realize there are unique circumstances such as some players trying junior hockey and then deciding to go back to college but this is the exception.

I’m sure they’re all great people. A 25 year old still has no business playing college sports. Normal kids graduate at 22. I think this is beyond ridiculous and embarrassing. NCAA should have never granted an extra year. Where does it end? Should be like HS. You get 4 years period. Sometimes circumstances arise that are unfortunate, but that’s life!

You're right, it's life, just like HS kids getting shafted because of COVID. get over it and move on. Life is tough, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a handful of freshman playing you have no clue what you are talking about , rosters are at 60 plus , half the kids stay home to watch the team play on the weekend . Oh did i mention that this does not end for 3 more years because of the transfer portal so if you say a statement make sure you know the facts. High school kids coming into college next year and the 2 following years are screwed as well . Remember the current freshman class did not ask for 60 plus kids on a roster they went to the school looking at what kids were leaving and now with the transfer portal they can take a 25 year old over the current commit coming in so it does not end . Kids just want an opportunity and they are clearly not getting it for the next 3 years ......

Exactly! And don’t forget about the kids currently enrolled at Ivies who just got one more year since they didn’t play!

Go play D3, this problem doesn't exist there. your kid can still play lacrosse, get a great education, and be done in 4 years.

Hahahaha. Now this forum is crying about college holdbacks. It never ends on botc.

They have their entire lives to work. Happy for them to get the opportunity that they also lost because of Covid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no way to defend this sport when someone says lacrosse is a "rich kids sport". Mom and Dad supporting a 25 year old playing lax. How much money do these families have?

That may be the definition of white privilege.

Really. What a fool. White privilege?? Maybe 2 parents who worked their rear ends off, didn’t get arrested, didn’t have warrants and didnt fight cops. Not a fan of hold backs and I agree that the article highlighted a situation that should not be normalized.

Nobody got extra years to play more than the 25 year old college players. When they got held back and reclassified, those were their extra years to play. Now college gives them more time. Ridiculous. Moral of the story. Don’t do the right thing and play by the rules because your kid will never see the field.

With the season about to start do we have know who the top five teams are in Nassau and Suffolk?

Massapequa
Manhasset
Garden City
CSH
Syosset/Farmingdale

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa
Manhasset
Garden City
CSH
Syosset/Farmingdale

They are in different conferences due to enrollment numbers. It amazes me that some of the smaller schools like CSH can consistently field great teams with half the amount of kids to pull from. Manhasset starting to fall off due to dwindling numbers so this will be an interesting year for the smaller schools. I wish someone knew what the cut off numbers actually are.

CSH kids have very little interest in baseball, rarely go to private schools, and have a great HS coach. Their coach has had many opportunities to coach at a higher level with a bigger paycheck. He does a great job with a small pool of talent.

Carey HS should be in the conversation, for this season anyway.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

CSH kids have very little interest in baseball, rarely go to private schools, and have a great HS coach. Their coach has had many opportunities to coach at a higher level with a bigger paycheck. He does a great job with a small pool of talent.

All that, plus they are really wealthy and have plenty of opportunities to have the best in private training. Of the schools listed every one of them except Massapequa and Farmingdale is a white-collar wealthy town.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are an on age college freshman, you are 18 competing against 25 year old teammates. Just let that sink in for a minute.

If you are a Marine or soldier you are actually battling a 25-year-old on the "field" as well. Please, if you are 18 you are as much a man as a 25-year-old. Let that sink in for a lot longer than a minute.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are an on age college freshman, you are 18 competing against 25 year old teammates. Just let that sink in for a minute.

If you are a Marine or soldier you are actually battling a 25-year-old on the "field" as well. Please, if you are 18 you are as much a man as a 25-year-old. Let that sink in for a lot longer than a minute.

No...Please Stop! This is lacrosse, rich spoiled white kid sport, not mortal combat. Are you for real???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are an on age college freshman, you are 18 competing against 25 year old teammates. Just let that sink in for a minute.

If you are a Marine or soldier you are actually battling a 25-year-old on the "field" as well. Please, if you are 18 you are as much a man as a 25-year-old. Let that sink in for a lot longer than a minute.

How long you gonna cry about your 18 year old ? When is he going to man up? Hopefully a lot sooner than you!

stunad alert....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

This could be the most ignorant post of all time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

This could be the most ignorant post of all time.

Hmmmm...I count 6 teams in Duke’s schedule not ranked. That’s a weak schedule. That’s where certain “superstars” rack up fake points. Fact!

There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

What is your point? Shooting camps, etc., will only improve a player so much. Old fashion dedication and hard work and, in many cases, natural ability is still the best way towards success.

That's no different than a lot of "Top 25" D1 football programs. Some football schools don't leave their time zone for away games and rack up stats against inferior opponents. Same with hoops and other sports. At the local HS level.....you see it all the time when superstar attackman never leaves the game in blowouts to pad his stats. "Johnny got a hat trick!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

This could be the most ignorant post of all time.

Hmmmm...I count 6 teams in Duke’s schedule not ranked. That’s a weak schedule. That’s where certain “superstars” rack up fake points. Fact!

Please tell us all of the programs that play a tougher schedule.

Out of curiosity, anyone have list of top 5 in league for points?

Kinda tough this year and at this point. Everyone has played a different amount of games. But would be interesting.

There is talk of LI Football Championship games. That may hurt some teams if the kids are still playing football for another week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa
Manhasset
Garden City
CSH
Syosset/Farmingdale

They are in different conferences due to enrollment numbers. It amazes me that some of the smaller schools like CSH can consistently field great teams with half the amount of kids to pull from. Manhasset starting to fall off due to dwindling numbers so this will be an interesting year for the smaller schools. I wish someone knew what the cut off numbers actually are.

What about South Side?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa
Manhasset
Garden City
CSH
Syosset/Farmingdale

They are in different conferences due to enrollment numbers. It amazes me that some of the smaller schools like CSH can consistently field great teams with half the amount of kids to pull from. Manhasset starting to fall off due to dwindling numbers so this will be an interesting year for the smaller schools. I wish someone knew what the cut off numbers actually are.

What about South Side?

I think they are the team to beat in Nassau B1.
Southside
GC
Carey
Everyone else

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

Have your kid switch over to golf.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

Have your kid switch over to golf.....

Underrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

This is exactly what u want, minus the cheating of course. On any given day, the result will be different. More ground balls, less tie ups, etc ... This is what they wanted and for the most part succeeding. I was against the change but it has grown on me. As for the good kids at smaller schools. This is in any sport and I am not sure what u are saying. In the NCAA basketball there are studs averaging 20 plus points a game where if the played for UNC or Duke would average 10 or 12 or less.
Also unless I am mistaken, one of the reasons for the leaning (or cheating as u put it) as it is presently constructed is because of COVID. Before anyone thinks I am nuts, what I mean is, they ball is placed down first and the refs spend less time adjusting the heads of the sticks. I believe this is a temporary issue and will be fixed moving forward because the sticks will be down AND then the ball is placed. I believe the refs were told to do this to get out of the space bc of COVID concerns. The bottom line is I love the faceoff and hope it stays a part of the game forever. BTW, I am not the parent of a faceoff kid but a long stick defender and the ground balls has made the game more fun. As for advice - train more, get faster and stronger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

This is exactly what u want, minus the cheating of course. On any given day, the result will be different. More ground balls, less tie ups, etc ... This is what they wanted and for the most part succeeding. I was against the change but it has grown on me. As for the good kids at smaller schools. This is in any sport and I am not sure what u are saying. In the NCAA basketball there are studs averaging 20 plus points a game where if the played for UNC or Duke would average 10 or 12 or less.
Also unless I am mistaken, one of the reasons for the leaning (or cheating as u put it) as it is presently constructed is because of COVID. Before anyone thinks I am nuts, what I mean is, they ball is placed down first and the refs spend less time adjusting the heads of the sticks. I believe this is a temporary issue and will be fixed moving forward because the sticks will be down AND then the ball is placed. I believe the refs were told to do this to get out of the space bc of COVID concerns. The bottom line is I love the faceoff and hope it stays a part of the game forever. BTW, I am not the parent of a faceoff kid but a long stick defender and the ground balls has made the game more fun. As for advice - train more, get faster and stronger.

Interesting. Yes the leaning you see when the camera zooms in. Some refs call a violation before they even blow the whistle, others ignore it. Could be that they don't see it cause they're too far back. Lots of kids going early (timing whistle) and not being called as well. Ground balls seem to be the same as they were before the rule change for the better fogos. Guess we'll see. Hopefully the refs do a good job and stay consistent. And for the *** with the snide comment about golf, go have a catch with your son, mine is committed to a top school and wants to stay proactive on the changes to the position, sorry you felt the need to be rude.

In the MIAA there are a TON of kids leaning and getting away with the refs calling the set and whistle from 2-5 yards away. You simply can't see the leans from that angle.
I've seen more faceoff violations before the set is even called. That's just another dense side effect of COVID.
I agree all will be fine post COVID when refs can set and adjust the players/sticks.
Having to call a kid on a violation because a shooting string or sidewall hits the ball on approach is ticky-tack and bs.
Kids will be able to touch the ball on approach by accident, and let the refs readjust before the set call. That's part of the reason why the "Set" call was originally implemented- to allow both players to get fairly and equally adjusted. Aside fromt he COVID rules, the other new (old) faceoff rules are fantastic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

What is your point? Shooting camps, etc., will only improve a player so much. Old fashion dedication and hard work and, in many cases, natural ability is still the best way towards success.

My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

That was constructive... the rules are thee same for everyone. What is the point of your post? What is your question? You give your observations and opinions and then you ask for advice. The advice was to "deal with it" and you somehow take offense to that.

The point is that "rule changes" impacting the face-off have been going on for the past 40 years (maybe longer). It is nothing new and the rules will be changed again in the next year or two. My advice is to deal with it.

"My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time.."

I agree with the above statement, but when a player has has athletic ability and works hard AND has the access to additional trainers/training, well that is an additional advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

That was constructive... the rules are thee same for everyone. What is the point of your post? What is your question? You give your observations and opinions and then you ask for advice. The advice was to "deal with it" and you somehow take offense to that.

The point is that "rule changes" impacting the face-off have been going on for the past 40 years (maybe longer). It is nothing new and the rules will be changed again in the next year or two. My advice is to deal with it.

Below is a quote from Dom Starsia (former Virginia & Brown Coach)

- “We’ve won championships when we’ve been very good facing off,” Starsia said. “We’ve won championships when we’ve been only OK facing off. You do the best with what you’ve got.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time.."

I agree with the above statement, but when a player has has athletic ability and works hard AND has the access to additional trainers/training, well that is an additional advantage.

Welcome to the Republican Party! Yay capitalism.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

Don't think they will go to a basketball style rule where, after a goal, the opposing team takes the ball in from the end line as this will not speed up the game. In fact, it will slow the game down and put too much emphasis on the ride which is an important part of the game but not the only thing. New rules are good and the shot clock are dramatic improvements.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

Don't think they will go to a basketball style rule where, after a goal, the opposing team takes the ball in from the end line as this will not speed up the game. In fact, it will slow the game down and put too much emphasis on the ride which is an important part of the game but not the only thing. New rules are good and the shot clock are dramatic improvements.

I know it has been discussed recently. If they do go this route, I don't see it happening for at least 5-8 years from now. My younger one was playing in a tournament this past fall and they had a no face off rule due tot covid. Going in I thought it would be terrible, It was actually pretty good. After each goal they started from the crease. As soon as the goalie fished the ball out of the cage, the ref blew the whistle to start play. Made the clears that much more important. the game flow was great. I would not mind see it at a higher level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

LOLZ Says "anonymous" who isn't on the rules committee, doesn't know anyone on the rules committee, never played beyond h/s, never coached beyond peewee, BUT heard another parent say something like that in the stands one time.

This place is the best for completely unsubstantiated posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

The advantage has little to do with the "wealth" that these communities have -- they (Manhasset, Garden City, CSH) succeed because of the number of multi-generational lacrosse families that each town has.

That said Manhasset lacrosse will likely fall off significantly over the next ~20 years due to the influx of Asians from Queens.

I agree the Face - Off should be eliminated. Make it like every other sport with alternate possession after a score. It's boring to watch, there's too much cheating and that would cut down on the roster specialty needs for every NCAA program. ACC schools have something like 5 or 6 faceoff guys and only one of them plays or 2 at the most in a game. Also, IMHO its completely dominated by kids whose parents or clubs are willing to pay for $100+/hour private training and the main guys leading the 'save the faceoff' charge are paying their mortgage that way.

Face offs are the most exciting part of the game! This year they are so unpredictable, you never know what will happen! TD was just shut down hard by Georgetown's Reilly, who isn't even that good at face offs. So crazy! Looking forward to the Duke/ND matchup tomorrow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree the Face - Off should be eliminated. Make it like every other sport with alternate possession after a score. It's boring to watch, there's too much cheating and that would cut down on the roster specialty needs for every NCAA program. ACC schools have something like 5 or 6 faceoff guys and only one of them plays or 2 at the most in a game. Also, IMHO its completely dominated by kids whose parents or clubs are willing to pay for $100+/hour private training and the main guys leading the 'save the faceoff' charge are paying their mortgage that way.

The new rules make faceoffs more accessible and less specialist driven.
You'll be seeing more athletes at the x, not fogos, moving forward.
Less than one year in and we're already seeing it in the MIAA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

The advantage has little to do with the "wealth" that these communities have -- they (Manhasset, Garden City, CSH) succeed because of the number of multi-generational lacrosse families that each town has.

That said Manhasset lacrosse will likely fall off significantly over the next ~20 years due to the influx of Asians from Queens.

So it’s no coincidence that each of those communities is well above the national average for wealth?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree the Face - Off should be eliminated. Make it like every other sport with alternate possession after a score. It's boring to watch, there's too much cheating and that would cut down on the roster specialty needs for every NCAA program. ACC schools have something like 5 or 6 faceoff guys and only one of them plays or 2 at the most in a game. Also, IMHO its completely dominated by kids whose parents or clubs are willing to pay for $100+/hour private training and the main guys leading the 'save the faceoff' charge are paying their mortgage that way.

The new rules make faceoffs more accessible and less specialist driven.
You'll be seeing more athletes at the x, not fogos, moving forward.
Less than one year in and we're already seeing it in the MIAA.

http://dailyorange.com/2014/02/lacrosse-keeping-face/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

They can't eliminate the faceoff. How will Shomberg and Gurenlian pay their mortgage?

I'm not sure they'll eliminate the FO, but they will water it down. Its such a long standing ritual it will be hard to get rid of it altogether. However, because lacrosse is not a money making sport, college coaches don't want to spend a lot of time and money recruiting such a specialized player. Many college coaches are probably happy with the new rules and will support more rules to make it more like hockey...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

This could be the most ignorant post of all time.

Yes, that was the most ignorant post In the history of BOC.... Tonight confirmed it.

Poster is a know nothing clown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

So much for your theory

Originally Posted by laxlurker

I'm not sure they'll eliminate the FO, but they will water it down. Its such a long standing ritual it will be hard to get rid of it altogether. However, because lacrosse is not a money making sport, college coaches don't want to spend a lot of time and money recruiting such a specialized player. Many college coaches are probably happy with the new rules and will support more rules to make it more like hockey...

You realize college lacrosse has about three times as many D3 programs than D1. What money are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

So much for your theory

He had a good game, but still not consistent. We’ll see how he and the team do post season before I’m convinced. Still not the best player. Others better/ more consistent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how old they are. Not every top player is 25. There are only a handful of 25 year old's playing now and there are plenty of Freshman having an impact. Stop wearing your mask in your own car.. You are what is wrong with the world today.

You mean like Mike Sowers. Went back to win the T, but he hardly does anything special. He's getting outplayed by a freshman. Or 5th year ND Fogo who was owned by another freshman?

Umm sowers is 2nd in the nation in points

Gets shut down when playing good teams. ACC has a schedule of mostly stat padding games.

So much for your theory

He had a good game, but still not consistent. We’ll see how he and the team do post season before I’m convinced. Still not the best player. Others better/ more consistent

Ins't there a college forum for this? This is supposed to be a for high school lax. With the start of games around the corner why are we still talking about college

Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

Pretty sure any player who does not see action in a game can red-shirt as long as they have not done so already. 5 years to play 4.

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Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

Yes

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I agree the Face - Off should be eliminated. Make it like every other sport with alternate possession after a score. It's boring to watch, there's too much cheating and that would cut down on the roster specialty needs for every NCAA program. ACC schools have something like 5 or 6 faceoff guys and only one of them plays or 2 at the most in a game. Also, IMHO its completely dominated by kids whose parents or clubs are willing to pay for $100+/hour private training and the main guys leading the 'save the faceoff' charge are paying their mortgage that way.

Like every other sport? Hockey is a pretty fast sport that faces off after each goal and then some. Keep spouting nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

100% Accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

That’s not new. Always been available

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to the rumor that college is allowing an extra year of eligibility to current freshman and sophomores that didn't see the field?

That’s not new. Always been available

It’s called a redshirt year. It doesn’t grant an extra year of eligibility, it just doesn’t count the non-playing year against the 4 years of eligibility the athlete has. It is different than what the ncaa granted due to COVID-19 shutting down the 2020 season

Can't understand why Nassau would make a schedule that overlaps football playoffs with lacrosse.

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Can't understand why Nassau would make a schedule that overlaps football playoffs with lacrosse.

Are kids on football expected to go to lax practice?

It effects 8 teams in Nassau county out of 50- 60 teams. Not a big deal...

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It effects 8 teams in Nassau county out of 50- 60 teams. Not a big deal...

Unless you are a player on one of those 8 teams----some football teams have close to 20 lacrosse kids on the team. --GC, Mac for certain. Tough 10 days----hard for lacrosse coaches to prepare for first games when some key guys are going to football 2 hours a day and have a championship game this coming Saturday. Hard for football coaches too---knowing that after football practice kids are then going to lacrosse practice---schedule in Nassau is not ideal.

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It effects 8 teams in Nassau county out of 50- 60 teams. Not a big deal...

Unless you are a player on one of those 8 teams----some football teams have close to 20 lacrosse kids on the team. --GC, Mac for certain. Tough 10 days----hard for lacrosse coaches to prepare for first games when some key guys are going to football 2 hours a day and have a championship game this coming Saturday. Hard for football coaches too---knowing that after football practice kids are then going to lacrosse practice---schedule in Nassau is not ideal.

It is what it is.

GC, Manhasset and Massapequa kids play all year and will be fine. Wantagh, oceanside, North shore are the next level and will get by and be fine. Macarthur and Plainedge are non events in the lax world(no offense to anyone but look at past history). The kids will all be fine. Just happy to have a lacrosse season.

The Face-off allows for comebacks that would otherwise not be possible in a "lost's out" format. Basketball is the most commonly cited example, but the 24 second shot clock and higher likelihood of turnovers (smaller space to run, dribbling rules) make it a poor comparison. Lacrosse would end up looking more like soccer, just with teams just killing a long shot clock. Four goals down with 5 minutes to go would be game over. Not so with the Face-off, where a guy can get hot and turn the tide quickly. Look at the Duke/ND game last week as a perfect example of an exciting (even though I was rooting for ND) outcome that would otherwise not be possible.

The original post cited "going early" as cheating. That is not cheating, that is poor refereeing, and not a hard call to get right. Sometimes it is hard to see if a kid is sneaking his hand up the plastic or pulling off a quick hook/hold that is too fast for the eye to see in real time. But Face-off kids do not cheat anywhere close to where the game was 20 years ago, and refs are generally pretty good at catching on if a kid is pulling stunts. Kids are taught to learn and train tight to the rules so they can compete in a well refereed game. If the ref is missing stuff, it is up to the coach and/or the FOGO to point it out.

Finally - for the complaining because a dominant FOGO can change an outcome - how is that any different than a dominant goalie? Ban the goalie? The game would sure be faster.

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GC, Manhasset and Massapequa kids play all year and will be fine. Wantagh, oceanside, North shore are the next level and will get by and be fine. Macarthur and Plainedge are non events in the lax world(no offense to anyone but look at past history). The kids will all be fine. Just happy to have a lacrosse season.

These teams are going to have their first game with maybe one full team practice.

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GC, Manhasset and Massapequa kids play all year and will be fine. Wantagh, oceanside, North shore are the next level and will get by and be fine. Macarthur and Plainedge are non events in the lax world(no offense to anyone but look at past history). The kids will all be fine. Just happy to have a lacrosse season.

These teams are going to have their first game with maybe one full team practice.

And hopefully this will be the only time that these kids experience a year and a half like the past one. One practice versus 10 practices. These boys don't care. This is only a parent issue. The kids are playing and they would do so with no practice. At the end of the day football was squeezed in and so was lacrosse. That's all that matters at this point!

nope

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Can't understand why Nassau would make a schedule that overlaps football playoffs with lacrosse.

People on here complain about everything. It is truly incredible. They should have just canceled the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't understand why Nassau would make a schedule that overlaps football playoffs with lacrosse.

People on here complain about everything. It is truly incredible. They should have just canceled the season

Good opening game tonight in Westchester. Bronxville v. John Jay. Happy to say that lacrosse is back.

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It effects 8 teams in Nassau county out of 50- 60 teams. Not a big deal...

Unless you are a player on one of those 8 teams----some football teams have close to 20 lacrosse kids on the team. --GC, Mac for certain. Tough 10 days----hard for lacrosse coaches to prepare for first games when some key guys are going to football 2 hours a day and have a championship game this coming Saturday. Hard for football coaches too---knowing that after football practice kids are then going to lacrosse practice---schedule in Nassau is not ideal.

It is what it is.

LOL. There are school districts that don't have 20 lacrosse players period. Don't even have 5 players that are still playing lacrosse in High School. Your complaining about getting 20 lacrosse players a little late who are already in shape from football and are probably still playing club lacrosse anyway. detest to have been your parents when you didn't get what you asked for immediately.

Is there a LIC for Lax this year or just a County Championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't understand why Nassau would make a schedule that overlaps football playoffs with lacrosse.

People on here complain about everything. It is truly incredible. They should have just canceled the season

Good opening game tonight in Westchester. Bronxville v. John Jay. Happy to say that lacrosse is back.

Good attitude! Just happy to have it back, no matter the circumstances, or be like the other dude and whine about it. That old saying about complaining when you get a steak and a XX comes to mind with him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It effects 8 teams in Nassau county out of 50- 60 teams. Not a big deal...

Unless you are a player on one of those 8 teams----some football teams have close to 20 lacrosse kids on the team. --GC, Mac for certain. Tough 10 days----hard for lacrosse coaches to prepare for first games when some key guys are going to football 2 hours a day and have a championship game this coming Saturday. Hard for football coaches too---knowing that after football practice kids are then going to lacrosse practice---schedule in Nassau is not ideal.

It is what it is.

LOL. There are school districts that don't have 20 lacrosse players period. Don't even have 5 players that are still playing lacrosse in High School. Your complaining about getting 20 lacrosse players a little late who are already in shape from football and are probably still playing club lacrosse anyway. detest to have been your parents when you didn't get what you asked for immediately.

detest to be you

Not so good for John Jay.

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

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High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

This nonsense again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

This nonsense again?

What do you think this forum is here for????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

Not much changes

Quick question on Faceoffs. Are you allowed to take faceoffs in high school games on one knee and use any grip?

MIAA = college rules. No moto, standing neutral.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

How is Cold Spring harbor this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick question on Faceoffs. Are you allowed to take faceoffs in high school games on one knee and use any grip?

2020 HFHS rules apply. Knee down allowed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

Who are the top teams in each league.

Attended the Chaminade v St Johns game. There is not a better team in the state than Chaminade this year.

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Attended the Chaminade v St Johns game. There is not a better team in the state than Chaminade this year.

I was there too, you can't make that statement based on that game. No disrespect to SJB but it was a total mismatch.

Let's see when they play St. A's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

It seems all the top teams are in league 1, Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, CSH.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

It seems all the top teams are in league 1, Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, CSH.......

How many teams make the playoffs this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

It seems all the top teams are in league 1, Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, CSH.......

Yes, regardless of school size. Nobody knows how playoffs (if ANY) will work.

Will the site post scores this year like previous years

Can anyone explain how the teams in Nassau were split into 2 leagues. Also our coach spoke of a power conference but do not know who a part of that. Some of the traditional programs have rough schedule while others do not. Section 8 website is not updated or user friendly and Nassau BOCES site links to Sportspak schedules.

Tthey took the top 25 or so teams in nassau and put them in two conferences based on school size( one div has the likes of GC, Mass, syosset, etc the other CSH, Manhasset, Wantagh, etc). Each conference has one crossover( Manhasset's crossover is GC and vice versa). I believe the playoffs will be broken up by traditional, Class A, B and C. The other 25 -30 teams play each other in there own conferences so they can have competitive games.

They took the top 25 or so teams in nassau and put them in two conferences based on school size( one div has the likes of GC, Mass, syosset, etc the other CSH, Manhasset, Wantagh, etc). Each conference has one crossover( Manhasset's crossover is GC and vice versa). I believe the playoffs will be broken up by traditional, Class A, B and C. The other 25 -30 teams play each other in there own conferences so they can have competitive games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School lax this week, top Nassau teams.

Massapequa
Syosset
Farmingdale will be in the mix

Garden city will take the Nassau B although Carey will be tough this year

Manhasset will take their conference

There are no conferences this season. Nassau split into League 1 and League 2 based on previous strength. Most schedules based on past years school conferences. Will be tough for middle of the pack teams to make playoffs. I do not know the rationale, I just know that's the way it is this year.

It seems all the top teams are in league 1, Massapequa, GC, Manhasset, Farmingdale, CSH.......

Yes, regardless of school size. Nobody knows how playoffs (if ANY) will work.

--For playoffs, the teams will go back into their conferences. A, B and C. So even though the conference 1 has 5-A's, 8/9-B's and a ton of Cs, afterr they play those games they will re-seed for Conference A,B and C playoffs. Good thing is there are really no "bad games" for either conference 1 or 2.

I suspect the Chaminade Dad has come to realize SJB is not a great barometer for how great your team is state wide. No one from St. Dom's was nominating their team for inclusion in the rankings following their win against them. Stay in your lane and remember there is always someone bigger and badder out there...just because you are unaware of them doesn't mean they don't exist...

You’re on the wrong page 😳

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I suspect the Chaminade Dad has come to realize SJB is not a great barometer for how great your team is state wide. No one from St. Dom's was nominating their team for inclusion in the rankings following their win against them. Stay in your lane and remember there is always someone bigger and badder out there...just because you are unaware of them doesn't mean they don't exist...

Maybe it was a SJB dad who wrote the original post.

No one uses “stay in your lane”..... so pre pandemic....geez.

Port Washington beat Garden City today.

MacArthur beat Massapequa today.

Nice

Some people on here predicted GC was not going to be as strong as in the past. It will be interesting to see if they are correct as the season goes on.

"Port Washington beat Garden City today."
"MacArthur beat Massapequa today."
CSH beat Wantagh.

Each of these results if true would seem to be upsets?

With conviction. Ahead the entire game , refs couldn’t even throw the game

GC could not come back from the beating they got in the first half and especially the first quarter. If PW would have kept the pressure on in the second half GC would have lost by a lot more. The outcome of this game was never in doubt.

Oceanside should spend more time coaching than making hype videos

Did Massapequa really lose to Macarthur?

And did Manhasset really lose to Hewlett?

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Did Massapequa really lose to Macarthur?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1hFG7p_IM

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Daddy ball going on on Massapequa.

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Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

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Daddy ball going on on Massapequa.

Sure George Powers is a daddy, except his son is about 30 and on the staff as well. What a stunad.

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Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

Port embarrassed Garden City. Made them look silly. Beat them in every aspect of the game. This is not a good Garden City team. There was nothing from that game that would make any neutral person think that Garden City could ever beat Port Washington.

i am not part of Massapequa but i see your post about George Powers you should all be happy he is the coach he plays to win and is a no nonsense guy ... Maybe you should look in the mirror about your own son .... any team would love to have Coach Powers on their team

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Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Massapequa really lose to Macarthur?

Why hasn't the MacArthur / Massapequa game not been posted in Newsday, MacArthur or Massapequa websites ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

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i am not part of Massapequa but i see your post about George Powers you should all be happy he is the coach he plays to win and is a no nonsense guy ... Maybe you should look in the mirror about your own son .... any team would love to have Coach Powers on their team

You may have misread that friend. Not sure you got the gist of the comment.

youtube has it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1hFG7p_IM&t=6166s

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Not a Port daddy but you are most definitely a fool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i am not part of Massapequa but i see your post about George Powers you should all be happy he is the coach he plays to win and is a no nonsense guy ... Maybe you should look in the mirror about your own son .... any team would love to have Coach Powers on their team

You may have misread that friend. Not sure you got the gist of the comment.

I dont think Daddy ball was in reference to George----Massapequa will be fine --county finals my opinion

Pequa head coach has the group he trained for years playing and they lose to MacAuthur... Time to move on

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Pequa head coach has the group he trained for years playing and they lose to MacAuthur... Time to move on

Maybe MacArthur is a much better than you think. This season has already seen some head scratching wins and losses on both sides. Teams across the board don't look sharp. Will be interesting to see how things progress around mid season.

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Pequa head coach has the group he trained for years playing and they lose to MacAuthur... Time to move on

GO TRUE BLUE!

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Pequa head coach has the group he trained for years playing and they lose to MacAuthur... Time to move on

2 games into their "varsity career"..... Give it a little time before you move on.
Also, not an excuse, but Pequa is missing kids that haven't been able to get in the needed # of practices due to football extending so long

So your just some random guy that was at the game? if so you have huge issues

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Pequa head coach has the group he trained for years playing and they lose to MacAuthur... Time to move on

2 games into their "varsity career"..... Give it a little time before you move on.
Also, not an excuse, but Pequa is missing kids that haven't been able to get in the needed # of practices due to football extending so long

Cant even be used as a reason - anyone playing in football was automatically eligible to play their spring sport. There was no minimum number of practices needed. Either way, come June, they will be battle tested and on point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Not a Port daddy but you are most definitely a fool

Right, because there is no such thing as "Port" it's Paul D. Schreiber High School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Not a Port daddy but you are most definitely a fool

Right, because there is no such thing as "Port" it's Paul D. Schreiber High School

Schreiber HS's teams have always been referred to as Port Washington (for whatever reason) going back at least 25 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.

"Schreiber HS's teams have always been referred to as Port Washington (for whatever reason) going back at least 25 years."

Yes and for obvious reasons, it is the only HS that serves Port Washington residents. port / schreiber are interchangable when referencing any of their HS teams...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.

I think it’s a little early for that statement. How many years have we seen this parity? This year? Certainly not the last 20.

So MacArthur lost badly, Farmingdale lost badly, looks like PW is the pride of Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.

wow... someone finally had the cahones to say it out loud. How dare you insinuate that Mann and GC don't own lacrosse any longer?

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"Schreiber HS's teams have always been referred to as Port Washington (for whatever reason) going back at least 25 years."

Yes and for obvious reasons, it is the only HS that serves Port Washington residents. port / schreiber are interchangable when referencing any of their HS teams...

It's obvious why they go by Port, though to me it's not obvious why they're the only one. There are plenty of eponymous high schools on Long Island that go by their HS name and not the "town" name: Carey, Mepham, Calhoun, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Schreiber HS's teams have always been referred to as Port Washington (for whatever reason) going back at least 25 years."

Yes and for obvious reasons, it is the only HS that serves Port Washington residents. port / schreiber are interchangable when referencing any of their HS teams...

It's obvious why they go by Port, though to me it's not obvious why they're the only one. There are plenty of eponymous high schools on Long Island that go by their HS name and not the "town" name: Carey, Mepham, Calhoun, etc.

Not the only one and what difference does it make? And all of this started because of someone’s nasty comment. Let’s just move along!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.

wow... someone finally had the cahones to say it out loud. How dare you insinuate that Mann and GC don't own lacrosse any longer?

As a real estate professional I can tell you the primary reason is the changing demographics of these towns. Generation families living in their hometown are no longer the norm. Families moving in do not get involved in the traditional activities of these towns. Subtle enough?

Newsday is the worst for scores and schedules. Half the games are not reported the others are often incorrect. Is there a better resource for getting updates.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.[/quote]

wow... someone finally had the cahones to say it out loud. How dare you insinuate that Mann and GC don't own lacrosse any longer?[/quote]

As a real estate professional I can tell you the primary reason is the changing demographics of these towns. Generation families living in their hometown are no longer the norm. Families moving in do not get involved in the traditional activities of these towns. Subtle enough?[/quote]

BOOM

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As a real estate professional I can tell you the primary reason is the changing demographics of these towns. Generation families living in their hometown are no longer the norm. Families moving in do not get involved in the traditional activities of these towns. Subtle enough?

This is certainly the case for Manhasset, less true for Garden City.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a real estate professional I can tell you the primary reason is the changing demographics of these towns. Generation families living in their hometown are no longer the norm. Families moving in do not get involved in the traditional activities of these towns. Subtle enough?

This is certainly the case for Manhasset, less true for Garden City.

Sadly lots of folks fleeing LI in general. Can't blame them, taxes and commutes stifling, no quality of life. My kids could never afford to live on LI. I'll follow my college bound kid to Florida and never look back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port goalie is awesome. And overall one of best teams they’ve had in years

Chill bro. Port is a solid team but GC beats then 9 out of 10 times.

“Chill bro”? Haha you’re funny. We’ve had to listen to you people yammering on here for years so you’re the one who needs to chill. You lost.

Relax Schreiber daddy, you've been awful for years, one good season doesn't make up for the pathetic program Schreiber has fielded for over a decade. Next year will be the same old Schreiber.

Going forward you have seen and will continue to see, much more parity with other towns improving and beating the Mann's and GC's of the world. I believe that many of the towns have caught up with the $ and hold back aspect along with getting top training for their boys. Its all good for LI lax.

wow... someone finally had the cahones to say it out loud. How dare you insinuate that Mann and GC don't own lacrosse any longer?

Again, one year does not a tradition make. Schreiber is having a good season, let's see how it translates and again, it's ONE year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a real estate professional I can tell you the primary reason is the changing demographics of these towns. Generation families living in their hometown are no longer the norm. Families moving in do not get involved in the traditional activities of these towns. Subtle enough?

This is certainly the case for Manhasset, less true for Garden City.

Sadly lots of folks fleeing LI in general. Can't blame them, taxes and commutes stifling, no quality of life. My kids could never afford to live on LI. I'll follow my college bound kid to Florida and never look back.

It's not about people fleeing the area, it's that Asians from Queens are moving to Manhasset. The town and school district will much more closely resemble Great Neck South than Garden City in fifteen or so years, which doesn't bode well for any of the sports teams.

A lacrosse Pearl Harbor, if you will?

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

Take a deep breath, your guy won the Presidency and Schreiber is the pearl of Nassau lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

Take a deep breath, your guy won the Presidency and Schreiber is the pearl of Nassau lacrosse![/quote

Why are you such a lost??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

Take a deep breath, your guy won the Presidency and Schreiber is the pearl of Nassau lacrosse![/quote

Why are you such a lost??

Same reason as yours.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Let’s give the person the benefit of doubt and say he/she was unaware. Let’s move on from this topic.

Does GC upset Manhasset tomorrow.

Schreiber is the best team in Nassau. Dismantled Rockville Centre.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Let’s give the person the benefit of doubt and say he/she was unaware. Let’s move on from this topic.

You are right we should move on and talk about a great game. However oblivious means lacks awareness and why should someone get a pass for ingnorance. That individual should also know the original "demographic" for Lacrosse is Native American .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Let’s give the person the benefit of doubt and say he/she was unaware. Let’s move on from this topic.

You are right we should move on and talk about a great game. However oblivious means lacks awareness and why should someone get a pass for ingnorance. That individual should also know the original "demographic" for Lacrosse is Native American .

Totally agree, hard to move on from such an ignorant poster! They don’t deserve a pass. Just because “his guy” the bloated, ignorant, racist, sexist, orange man didn’t win, he should chill. Doesn’t change the fact Schreiber is better at Lacrosse than “his team”! I guess, just stinks being a lost all around.

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Let’s give the person the benefit of doubt and say he/she was unaware. Let’s move on from this topic.

You are right we should move on and talk about a great game. However oblivious means lacks awareness and why should someone get a pass for ingnorance. That individual should also know the original "demographic" for Lacrosse is Native American .

Totally agree, hard to move on from such an ignorant poster! They don’t deserve a pass. Just because “his guy” the bloated, ignorant, racist, sexist, orange man didn’t win, he should chill. Doesn’t change the fact Schreiber is better at Lacrosse than “his team”! I guess, just stinks being a lost all around.

Can we Get back to lacrosse discussion ? Let the scores and game outcomes be the determining factor on what team is the best. Still to be determined. Relax and enjoy some good lacrosse people. Be happy the kids are getting to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It's funny to me that your kid plays a white privilege sport and you're calling people racist. Pot, meet kettle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

Maybe they'll have a good fencing team (LOL) in fifteen years, but I wouldn't bet on them in the Woodstick. Pretending this isn't the case might make you nerds feel better but it won't change reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

Maybe they'll have a good fencing team (LOL) in fifteen years, but I wouldn't bet on them in the Woodstick. Pretending this isn't the case might make you nerds feel better but it won't change reality.

Aren’t you forgetting about the Manhasset kids (really the parents) that choose private school over public school when they get to the high school level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

Can you share your rationale? Cause screaming racist twice in one sentence doesn’t make it so.
People with a strong appreciation for lacrosse are aging out or moving away and being replaced by younger families from NYC or from areas with little to no history of lacrosse. Saying they should assimilate and learn the game might be racist but no one is saying that. The shifting demographic is the natural evolution that occurs everywhere, it might hurt lax but it strengthens the community in other areas. Diversity is good, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It's funny to me that your kid plays a white privilege sport and you're calling people racist. Pot, meet kettle.

Nah lacrosse is just a great game. You are just proving my point about the previous poster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

How is discussing demographics racist? If a town has a certain make-up that does not emphasize one activity over another the participation in that activity will go down. This is why your seeing the increasing popularity of lacrosse in non-traditional areas like Florida and Texas. As more ex-NYers move out of state they bring the game with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

Maybe they'll have a good fencing team (LOL) in fifteen years, but I wouldn't bet on them in the Woodstick. Pretending this isn't the case might make you nerds feel better but it won't change reality.

Manhasset is still undefeated. Ranked 17th best high school in NY. That is reality. Nerds good at lacrosse and smart achievers. Yeah thats terrible.

SyoLax, who's your Daddy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

How is discussing demographics racist? If a town has a certain make-up that does not emphasize one activity over another the participation in that activity will go down. This is why your seeing the increasing popularity of lacrosse in non-traditional areas like Florida and Texas. As more ex-NYers move out of state they bring the game with them.

Sure. The 1st post was using racist stereotyping if you look at it. The second post was a racist joke. The demographics discussion is accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The last two posts. Sad...just sad. Be better than that.

the first of the two was about the reality of changing demographics, why does the truth make you sad?

Because it is racist and the person that posted it is oblivious to that or just a straight up racist.

It isn't racist to understand that Manhasset's demographics have been changing significantly over the past decade or two, and that the new residents care more about Kumon than lacrosse.

Maybe they'll have a good fencing team (LOL) in fifteen years, but I wouldn't bet on them in the Woodstick. Pretending this isn't the case might make you nerds feel better but it won't change reality.

Aren’t you forgetting about the Manhasset kids (really the parents) that choose private school over public school when they get to the high school level?

I’m not woke enough to even begin to fathom how this is racist or even wrong.

FLG FOOLS ALWAYS PUMP GC TRASH DEFENSE..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does GC upset Manhasset tomorrow.

NOPE

But you’re a stunad because clearly the admins removed the disgraceful post. I hope the person that wrote it thinks twice. While anonymity makes people brazen, it is still easy to shut down a certain IP address.

Does anyone know the score of the Syosset/Cold Spring Harbor game.

CSH over Syosset in ot. 11-10 I think...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH over Syosset in ot. 11-10 I think...

Thx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG FOOLS ALWAYS PUMP GC TRASH DEFENSE..

Shameless Elitist that buy there kids headlines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG FOOLS ALWAYS PUMP GC TRASH DEFENSE..

Shameless Elitist that buy there kids headlines.

What is this nonsense. If you don’t like rich people you should probably play baseball. Because lacrosse is a rich kids sport.

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Yes, this has gone on forever! Good luck getting it fixed! But wouldn't worry too much. In the long run everyone knows who the best players are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Would not worry too much about it. College coaches do not do their recruiting by looking at Newsday Stats. I believe the winning coach is responsible for notifying Newsday of the score and the statistics. Also, college coaches do not really recruit at HS games. You will see College coaches at HS playoff games once the college season is over. Unfortunately, many times the coaches are there to watch and support the players that have already committed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Would not worry too much about it. College coaches do not do their recruiting by looking at Newsday Stats. I believe the winning coach is responsible for notifying Newsday of the score and the statistics. Also, college coaches do not really recruit at HS games. You will see College coaches at HS playoff games once the college season is over. Unfortunately, many times the coaches are there to watch and support the players that have already committed.

LILJ is the bible for Lacrosse recruiting on LI..

So much for port Washington. Check them and they fold. Soft as heck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Would not worry too much about it. College coaches do not do their recruiting by looking at Newsday Stats. I believe the winning coach is responsible for notifying Newsday of the score and the statistics. Also, college coaches do not really recruit at HS games. You will see College coaches at HS playoff games once the college season is over. Unfortunately, many times the coaches are there to watch and support the players that have already committed.

LILJ is the bible for Lacrosse recruiting on LI..

The stats don’t seem to add up on Newsday or LILJ. Don’t know who’s keeping track?. You can see, some teams take the reporting more serious than others

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much for port Washington. Check them and they fold. Soft as heck.

GC 2-3 record is the real story

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much for port Washington. Check them and they fold. Soft as heck.

GC 2-3 record is the real story

What happened to all those D1 recruits at Carey?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So much for port Washington. Check them and they fold. Soft as heck.

GC 2-3 record is the real story

No. Everyone knew that GC was down this year and next. The port daddy was on here pumping his chest when they beat GC. Saying they were great. They are the same team as always. Good but not great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone else see the errors in the reporting of scores and stats to newsday or lilj. Some of the numbers are fantasy. Finals scores usually accurate but stats are way off (assists, saves). Some scorers tables have HS kids and admins with no knowledge of the game. I have an attack and goalie playing and some stats are not even close. These results are often looked at by scouts and hurt potential recruits. Anyone else have thoughts on this.

Would not worry too much about it. College coaches do not do their recruiting by looking at Newsday Stats. I believe the winning coach is responsible for notifying Newsday of the score and the statistics. Also, college coaches do not really recruit at HS games. You will see College coaches at HS playoff games once the college season is over. Unfortunately, many times the coaches are there to watch and support the players that have already committed.

LILJ is the bible for Lacrosse recruiting on LI..

The stats don’t seem to add up on Newsday or LILJ. Don’t know who’s keeping track?. You can see, some teams take the reporting more serious than others

Good luck, they've been terrible for years. Unfortunately for some the stats do matter. County and conference leaders are based on incorrectly reported and recorded stats. I'm on my third player now so I've given up. I did a check a few years ago with saves and the winning teams goalie was padded by more than 5 additional saves. For those who say it doesn't matter try asking your kid.

LILJ is more like the National Enquirer

Can we discuss the great amount of parity with Suffolk Division 1? Almost everyday there are great games. Huntington undefeated, Smithtown West making a charge, Northport destroying Melville. Who knows who wins this division

Suffolk D1 very fun to watch the scores every day. Who makes post season and how that shakes out will be exciting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we discuss the great amount of parity with Suffolk Division 1? Almost everyday there are great games. Huntington undefeated, Smithtown West making a charge, Northport destroying Melville. Who knows who wins this division

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Suffolk D1 very fun to watch the scores every day. Who makes post season and how that shakes out will be exciting.

It is fun to watch and follow. Any given day any of the top 10 teams could probably take it. Let's all enjoy it.

Will there be a LICS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will there be a LICS?

Will Carey with all those D1 players make it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we discuss the great amount of parity with Suffolk Division 1? Almost everyday there are great games. Huntington undefeated, Smithtown West making a charge, Northport destroying Melville. Who knows who wins this division

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Suffolk D1 very fun to watch the scores every day. Who makes post season and how that shakes out will be exciting.

It is fun to watch and follow. Any given day any of the top 10 teams could probably take it. Let's all enjoy it.

top 10 no, top 5 or 6 yes. Example, Right now, I cant see Floyd taking anything but 4 more losses

Quot not playing BS will hurt them
Ward Melville What was up with that Northport game. A one goal game to SW doesnt bother me...
Northport losing 2 of their 1 goal games, nice win against East
BS the boys from the Shore, love them 1 goal games. (I will say this, they must take brentwood off their schedule)
Does SW look like the team 3 one goal games (losing 2 of them, winning a big one though).
Can Huntington stay the course, after a loss!

Sachems are good but in the next level. West Islip is lucky they left!

west islip ???? Can someone say it

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

1000% agree.....

I have not seen anyone get removed from a game, is that really happening?
I have no problem chipping at a really bad call but, the same people flip out on every call gets old.

With that said, the entire ref system needs an overhaul. Half of them can’t physically get out the the way of game action. They are too old and physically unable to ref properly. I hear there is a shortage but maybe they need to get paid more. It will never be perfect but it needs to get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

1000% agree.....

I have not seen anyone get removed from a game, is that really happening?
I have no problem chipping at a really bad call but, the same people flip out on every call gets old.

With that said, the entire ref system needs an overhaul. Half of them can’t physically get out the the way of game action. They are too old and physically unable to ref properly. I hear there is a shortage but maybe they need to get paid more. It will never be perfect but it needs to get better.

Agreed! Some really bad ones out there that don't know the rules and make it about them, and change the outcome of the game. That should never happen!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

YES!!! We heard a parent scream "WHY'D YOU PUT THAT KID IN?" from the stands at their Coach. How demented a human being do you need to be to yell this towards your own bench? I don't understand how that team's parents (and Coach) can sit there and let this lowlife ruin everyone else's experience. Should be a pretty easy convo from Coach to Parent, "Shut up, or you won't be at any more games." Please check your ego when you're watching these games, noone cares that you played back in the 1980's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

YES!!! We heard a parent scream "WHY'D YOU PUT THAT KID IN?" from the stands at their Coach. How demented a human being do you need to be to yell this towards your own bench? I don't understand how that team's parents (and Coach) can sit there and let this lowlife ruin everyone else's experience. Should be a pretty easy convo from Coach to Parent, "Shut up, or you won't be at any more games." Please check your ego when you're watching these games, noone cares that you played back in the 1980's.

This is almost every town on Long Island!!!! You got the one guy who thinks he is the All Time best LAX player and knows everything. Grew up in that town and still lives in that town. Walks around like he is the king of popularity when really no one likes him. Most people just tolerate him because they don't want to cause headaches for the kids. They coach from the stands, yell at the refs, insult the kids when they make mistakes. Meanwhile his kid(s) are average at best. Then after the game they offer advice to the coaches. My siblings and I live across L.I. All of us have this guy. It's incredible that the Coaches don't tell them to shut up.

"This is almost every town on Long Island!!!! You got the one guy who thinks he is the All Time best LAX player and knows everything. Grew up in that town and still lives in that town. Walks around like he is the king of popularity when really no one likes him. Most people just tolerate him because they don't want to cause headaches for the kids. They coach from the stands, yell at the refs, insult the kids when they make mistakes. Meanwhile his kid(s) are average at best. Then after the game they offer advice to the coaches. My siblings and I live across L.I. All of us have this guy. It's incredible that the Coaches don't tell them to shut up."

LOL. So true. We have that guy in our town too...in fact, I think we have one for every grade in the district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"This is almost every town on Long Island!!!! You got the one guy who thinks he is the All Time best LAX player and knows everything. Grew up in that town and still lives in that town. Walks around like he is the king of popularity when really no one likes him. Most people just tolerate him because they don't want to cause headaches for the kids. They coach from the stands, yell at the refs, insult the kids when they make mistakes. Meanwhile his kid(s) are average at best. Then after the game they offer advice to the coaches. My siblings and I live across L.I. All of us have this guy. It's incredible that the Coaches don't tell them to shut up."

LOL. So true. We have that guy in our town too...in fact, I think we have one for every grade in the district.

Got one that has taken penalties and another that called the HS coach ahead of a big game to say he didnt think the team was prepared.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"This is almost every town on Long Island!!!! You got the one guy who thinks he is the All Time best LAX player and knows everything. Grew up in that town and still lives in that town. Walks around like he is the king of popularity when really no one likes him. Most people just tolerate him because they don't want to cause headaches for the kids. They coach from the stands, yell at the refs, insult the kids when they make mistakes. Meanwhile his kid(s) are average at best. Then after the game they offer advice to the coaches. My siblings and I live across L.I. All of us have this guy. It's incredible that the Coaches don't tell them to shut up."

LOL. So true. We have that guy in our town too...in fact, I think we have one for every grade in the district.

Got one that has taken penalties and another that called the HS coach ahead of a big game to say he didnt think the team was prepared.

We've got them also... one from Igloo, 91, and Express. The dad's are the loudest most obnoxious as they come!

Anyone know the score for Carey v. GC?

7-3 GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

1000% agree.....

I have not seen anyone get removed from a game, is that really happening?
I have no problem chipping at a really bad call but, the same people flip out on every call gets old.

With that said, the entire ref system needs an overhaul. Half of them can’t physically get out the the way of game action. They are too old and physically unable to ref properly. I hear there is a shortage but maybe they need to get paid more. It will never be perfect but it needs to get better.

Agreed! Some really bad ones out there that don't know the rules and make it about them, and change the outcome of the game. That should never happen!

Go get a whistle big man since you know the rules so well. I for one am thankful for the refs. Ever think there may be a shortage from dealing with the likes of you and the issues you just brought up about the parents? It was just mentioned let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref...and what do you do? Bash the ref. Disgrace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Halfway through the season and Parent chirping is at an all time high. Every week games are being stopped and Parents are being escorted out. Please let the players play, coaches coach, and refs ref. The only impact your screaming has is to embarrass yourself, your kid, and your program. No ref ever picked up a flag because Joe Shmoe (who cant even run 10 yards without a coronary but somehow knows more about the game than the Creator) screams about a foul they thought they saw from 40 yards away. I’m sure, if asked, the kids would rather play without the parents watching. Parents, please stay classy - no need to have an aneurysm when things don't go the way you thought they should - chill the ‘F’ out, for your kid’s sake.

YES!!! We heard a parent scream "WHY'D YOU PUT THAT KID IN?" from the stands at their Coach. How demented a human being do you need to be to yell this towards your own bench? I don't understand how that team's parents (and Coach) can sit there and let this lowlife ruin everyone else's experience. Should be a pretty easy convo from Coach to Parent, "Shut up, or you won't be at any more games." Please check your ego when you're watching these games, noone cares that you played back in the 1980's.

This is almost every town on Long Island!!!! You got the one guy who thinks he is the All Time best LAX player and knows everything. Grew up in that town and still lives in that town. Walks around like he is the king of popularity when really no one likes him. Most people just tolerate him because they don't want to cause headaches for the kids. They coach from the stands, yell at the refs, insult the kids when they make mistakes. Meanwhile his kid(s) are average at best. Then after the game they offer advice to the coaches. My siblings and I live across L.I. All of us have this guy. It's incredible that the Coaches don't tell them to shut up.

I can name more than one from each "lax" town (Manhasset, GC, RVC, Smithtown, WI, MS). Lucky for us, they coached PAL, had "select" town teams for their kids and the buddies, then graduated to coaching from the sidelines during club lax, and now rule the sidelines at the HS games. Love this place!

"Anyone know the score for Carey v. GC?

I guess TEAM > 5D1 recruits... The program trumps the flash in the pan player(s).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Anyone know the score for Carey v. GC?

I guess TEAM > 5D1 recruits... The program trumps the flash in the pan player(s).

It would appear that the argument that D1 commits makes a team would be inaccurate.

Any thoughts on FOGOs in Suffolk Division 1?

How do the playoffs work this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do the playoffs work this year?

Win and move on.

Pequa will win Nassau. Who will the face in LIC ?

Pequa may not win Nassau. Dalers took it to em today.

Port? Syo?

Syo is soft. Always have been.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa may not win Nassau. Dalers took it to em today.

I think it comes down to Syosset or Farmingdale. We will find out next week. I think this is Syosset's year. Class B has Garden City picking up steam Southside fell off and so much for Carey and their D1 commits. Manhasset looks good and may be one of their best teams in the past few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do the playoffs work this year?

Win and move on.

If you don't know the answer why are you responding

It's true. If you win you play in the next round. Finals is LIC

Wow, Bay Shore just got robbed a chance to win another game in OT.

https://youtu.be/3qo9_qvRM74

Sorry, but the ball needs to go inside the net to score!

Huntington
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Anyone else?

Pequa may not win Nassau. Dalers took it to em today.

Yea took it to them 8-7 they really rolled them.

Score was 8-4 with 3 minutes to go. The game was never in doubt. Pequa offense is awful.

Sachem North with a massive blown lead. Blowing a 6 goal lead in the fourth, yikes!!!! That's on coaching

Huntington no longer undefeated. Div 1 is up for grabs.

Div 1 has been such a great season. Any team any given day. That's great for lacrosse here on the island.

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

...and Smithtown West drops a third game...again Div 1 is up for grabs.

Pequa will be in the mix. Lost a 1 goal game to an overrated syosset team without winning 1 faceoff.

Refs were so one sided for Pequa
Been that way for years
7 Man-ups to Syo 1man-up

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

You say that only because you really are a muppet. Your kid isnt playing and you didnt play so just stop it. All great teams but St Anthonys and Chaminade would def compete. Your statement is even more ridiculous when you think about how poor St Johns was at the face off x.

Go watch your HS A semi final loss again. We'll send your wife home later.

Muppet? Good one. Chaminade, Manhasset, Melville, Sinai and SWR would probably compete too.

The refs dont care who wins or loses. Saying the refs were one sided is a dense statement.

saying a team is overrated is a dense statement.
if you saw that game you saw that the refs were for Pequa

I saw the game and it was an overrated syosset team committing penalty after penalty. Typical undisciplined JC team. Don't blame the refs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Ridiculous statement. Zero basis in fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Ridiculous statement. Zero basis in fact

Here is some more info which is opinion. Port had some great 2020s that you never saw as seniors. Last year would have been a big year. 2018 and 2019 not as good as 2020 but much better than this year. Port has 1 Star this year. Another very good d1 player. This make up could not compete with past years.

I saw the game also and what I saw was an overmatched Pequa squad playing keep away and stalling out the game until a penalty was called
Overrated 8-1 buddy
Pequa sore losers

Overmatched?? Syosset won every faceoff and barely hung on for the win. It was the refs and Pequa was stalling, excuse after excusre from the team who won, give it a rest. We all know that in 2 weeks the undisciplined team that Syosset is will get knockout of the playoffs and you will be on here complaining. Sore winner of the regular season game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Ridiculous statement. Zero basis in fact

Here is some more info which is opinion. Port had some great 2020s that you never saw as seniors. Last year would have been a big year. 2018 and 2019 not as good as 2020 but much better than this year. Port has 1 Star this year. Another very good d1 player. This make up could not compete with past years.

D-1 commits do not make a team, please see Carey 2021 as a prime example of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Ridiculous statement. Zero basis in fact

Here is some more info which is opinion. Port had some great 2020s that you never saw as seniors. Last year would have been a big year. 2018 and 2019 not as good as 2020 but much better than this year. Port has 1 Star this year. Another very good d1 player. This make up could not compete with past years.

Visor Dad makes a triumphant return to BOTC! Welcome back! Still beating the drum on your 2020 “stud” kid. Glad to see some things never change. Almost makes me nostalgic for your FLG-related antics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carey over Port Wash 8-5

Port Washington is not as good as they thought. It will be Syosset or Farmingdale in Nassau A. It’s going to be a good game. Can go either way this coming week.

This year Port team would not be able to compete with the Port teams in the past. They beat GC because they too are probably not as good as any GC team in the past. Many traditional top high schools taking two steps back in talent and some non-traditional getting a lot better explains some of the results we have been seeing.

Ridiculous statement. Zero basis in fact

Here is some more info which is opinion. Port had some great 2020s that you never saw as seniors. Last year would have been a big year. 2018 and 2019 not as good as 2020 but much better than this year. Port has 1 Star this year. Another very good d1 player. This make up could not compete with past years.

D-1 commits do not make a team, please see Carey 2021 as a prime example of this.

Agreed. But they are nice to have for any team.

Honestly only speaking from a Nassau A parent there hasn't been one team that has impressed me at all including my sons team. There hasn't been one player that has shined in any game against my son team. Fdale Pequa Syo all can beat each other. So who knows who will win let the boys play and c what happens. I love all the dads on hear making up excuses why they lost or why they won kinda pathetic. Good luck to all hopefully the playoffs r fun.

Anyone want to take a shot at who wins Suffolk? Ward Melville?, Northport?, Huntington?, or one of the Smithtowns?

I like the way Northport is playing recently but I am scared of Ward Melville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly only speaking from a Nassau A parent there hasn't been one team that has impressed me at all including my sons team. There hasn't been one player that has shined in any game against my son team. Fdale Pequa Syo all can beat each other. So who knows who will win let the boys play and c what happens. I love all the dads on hear making up excuses why they lost or why they won kinda pathetic. Good luck to all hopefully the playoffs r fun.

High school lacrosse is played at a much lower level compared to AA or A level club tournaments. 99 percent of the high school teams would loose to most AA or A club teams. The top high schools would not beat top club teams. As a result the the high schools teams do not look impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to take a shot at who wins Suffolk? Ward Melville?, Northport?, Huntington?, or one of the Smithtowns?

I like the way Northport is playing recently but I am scared of Ward Melville

Huntington

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly only speaking from a Nassau A parent there hasn't been one team that has impressed me at all including my sons team. There hasn't been one player that has shined in any game against my son team. Fdale Pequa Syo all can beat each other. So who knows who will win let the boys play and c what happens. I love all the dads on hear making up excuses why they lost or why they won kinda pathetic. Good luck to all hopefully the playoffs r fun.

High school lacrosse is played at a much lower level compared to AA or A level club tournaments. 99 percent of the high school teams would loose to most AA or A club teams. The top high schools would not beat top club teams. As a result the the high schools teams do not look impressive.

Thanks East Meadow mom. But you’re wrong.

Port 11 Pequa 6

Who won the Syosset Farmingdale game today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly only speaking from a Nassau A parent there hasn't been one team that has impressed me at all including my sons team. There hasn't been one player that has shined in any game against my son team. Fdale Pequa Syo all can beat each other. So who knows who will win let the boys play and c what happens. I love all the dads on hear making up excuses why they lost or why they won kinda pathetic. Good luck to all hopefully the playoffs r fun.

High school lacrosse is played at a much lower level compared to AA or A level club tournaments. 99 percent of the high school teams would loose to most AA or A club teams. The top high schools would not beat top club teams. As a result the the high schools teams do not look impressive.

Thanks East Meadow mom. But you’re wrong.

If you think this is wrong than your kid does not play for a high level club team.

Nassau A is up for grabs for PW Syo and Farmingdale . The wheels fell off over in Massapequa. Cant remember the last time they lost to PW Syo and the Dale in the same season.

The top 1/3 of LI HS lax teams...in all divisions....are pretty solid. I'm sure you can point to the top travel teams. If your kid....or most likely you....wants to play D3 lacrosse outside of the top 10 D3 programs....there's no need for travel. There are kids on the top 1/3 public LI HS teams that are 3rd and 4th string that will go play college lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly only speaking from a Nassau A parent there hasn't been one team that has impressed me at all including my sons team. There hasn't been one player that has shined in any game against my son team. Fdale Pequa Syo all can beat each other. So who knows who will win let the boys play and c what happens. I love all the dads on hear making up excuses why they lost or why they won kinda pathetic. Good luck to all hopefully the playoffs r fun.

High school lacrosse is played at a much lower level compared to AA or A level club tournaments. 99 percent of the high school teams would loose to most AA or A club teams. The top high schools would not beat top club teams. As a result the the high schools teams do not look impressive.

Thanks East Meadow mom. But you’re wrong.

If you think this is wrong than your kid does not play for a high level club team.

If you think this is right your kids HS team is not good.

No Smithtown team is winning Suffolk A, you can put that in the bank.

In Nassau, once again, the C champ, be it Manhasset or CSH, likely Manhasset, would be the A champ as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Smithtown team is winning Suffolk A, you can put that in the bank.

In Nassau, once again, the C champ, be it Manhasset or CSH, likely Manhasset, would be the A champ as well.

Manhassets best team in years. Nobody will beat them. They will be strong again next year with a ton of starters returning. Most other teams still have covid hangover and beating up on each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Smithtown team is winning Suffolk A, you can put that in the bank.

In Nassau, once again, the C champ, be it Manhasset or CSH, likely Manhasset, would be the A champ as well.

Manhassets best team in years. Nobody will beat them. They will be strong again next year with a ton of starters returning. Most other teams still have covid hangover and beating up on each other.

I agree Manhasset is best team in Nassau. CSH wouldn't be A champ though, F'dale and Port both better.

Dont leave out Syosset. If they stay out of the penalty box they will be right there also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Smithtown team is winning Suffolk A, you can put that in the bank.

In Nassau, once again, the C champ, be it Manhasset or CSH, likely Manhasset, would be the A champ as well.

Manhassets best team in years. Nobody will beat them. They will be strong again next year with a ton of starters returning. Most other teams still have covid hangover and beating up on each other.

I agree Manhasset is best team in Nassau. CSH wouldn't be A champ though, F'dale and Port both better.

Lucky for them Manhasset didn't have to play the Friars this year.

I agree, Manhasset is downright superb. They are right there with Chaminade and St Anthony's.

Anyone know the outcome of Huntington / Ward Melville game?

They just lost to WM who were up by at least 3 goals or more most of the game

WM won 9-6

Any news on Smithtown West vs Sachem East?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port 11 Pequa 6

Port vs. Farmingdale tonight.

Port wins by 4..

Agreed CSH is not as strong as in years past, but didn't they already beat Syosset, the A frontrunner?

According to national lax magazine Manhasset, Commsewogue, Mt Sinai, and SWR are top teams in the nation. All C teams on LI. Interesting...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Port wins by 4..

Pretty good prediction.

Wogue is B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is up for grabs for PW Syo and Farmingdale . The wheels fell off over in Massapequa. Cant remember the last time they lost to PW Syo and the Dale in the same season.

You can add Long Beach now and would it surprise you if they lose to Southside.That’s what happens when you bring up your JV team to be the Varsity. Head Coach favors kids on his son’s mediocre travel team. Guess the qplan is if they spend 3-4 years on Varsity they will be good at some point. I wouldn’t bet on it. Lucky the division has so many bad teams, they may make the playoffs with a losing record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is up for grabs for PW Syo and Farmingdale . The wheels fell off over in Massapequa. Cant remember the last time they lost to PW Syo and the Dale in the same season.

You can add Long Beach now and would it surprise you if they lose to Southside.That’s what happens when you bring up your JV team to be the Varsity. Head Coach favors kids on his son’s mediocre travel team. Guess the qplan is if they spend 3-4 years on Varsity they will be good at some point. I wouldn’t bet on it. Lucky the division has so many bad teams, they may make the playoffs with a losing record.

The wheels didn’t just come off........ the whole program is shot. If they lose to Southside then they need an entire program change. I can’t remember when Massapequa lost 6-7 games in a year.

Coaching them up over in Massapequa. Nice job, NOT!!

PW 9-2 impressive w one of their top middies out w an injury.

How many teams make A playoffs? Are there byes?

I been watching this young team all season, would not be surprised if they go on a run starting Monday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams make A playoffs? Are there byes?

Nassau --A-Tourney ===6 teams make playoffs ---seed 1 and 2 get byes
--B-Tourney ====8 teams make playoffs
--C Tourney ======8 teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is up for grabs for PW Syo and Farmingdale . The wheels fell off over in Massapequa. Cant remember the last time they lost to PW Syo and the Dale in the same season.

You can add Long Beach now and would it surprise you if they lose to Southside.That’s what happens when you bring up your JV team to be the Varsity. Head Coach favors kids on his son’s mediocre travel team. Guess the qplan is if they spend 3-4 years on Varsity they will be good at some point. I wouldn’t bet on it. Lucky the division has so many bad teams, they may make the playoffs with a losing record.

The wheels didn’t just come off........ the whole program is shot. If they lose to Southside then they need an entire program change. I can’t remember when Massapequa lost 6-7 games in a year.

How ridiculous. You may want to look back to 2019. Not so long ago. It’s not a great team. Neither is GC. Program change, how silly and uninformed you must be.

Uniformed? They stink. This is 2021 not 2019.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau A is up for grabs for PW Syo and Farmingdale . The wheels fell off over in Massapequa. Cant remember the last time they lost to PW Syo and the Dale in the same season.

You can add Long Beach now and would it surprise you if they lose to Southside.That’s what happens when you bring up your JV team to be the Varsity. Head Coach favors kids on his son’s mediocre travel team. Guess the qplan is if they spend 3-4 years on Varsity they will be good at some point. I wouldn’t bet on it. Lucky the division has so many bad teams, they may make the playoffs with a losing record.

The wheels didn’t just come off........ the whole program is shot. If they lose to Southside then they need an entire program change. I can’t remember when Massapequa lost 6-7 games in a year.

How ridiculous. You may want to look back to 2019. Not so long ago. It’s not a great team. Neither is GC. Program change, how silly and uninformed you must be.

Difference with GC is, Even in a down year, they are still a good team. They will be in the mix for the championship!!
Can’t say that for Pequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uniformed? They stink. This is 2021 not 2019.

So gut the coaching staff that won a NYS championship? Uninformed or just a guy whose sports knowledge is limited to WFAN. Patriots had a down year, time to let go of Belichick?

Best teams on the island are all from Suffolk C. Then everyone else. That won’t change for at least next 3-4 years.

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

Yes, it’s ridiculous. The stats do not add up an both ends a lot of times. Who’s keeping them at the games? Is it up to the school team itself to report? It’s terribly in accurate. It does matter to the players to get them right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

Yes, it’s ridiculous. The stats do not add up an both ends a lot of times. Who’s keeping them at the games? Is it up to the school team itself to report? It’s terribly in accurate. It does matter to the players to get them right

I believe it's up to the winning team to report the book.

This year I overheard a coaching staff telling the opposing scorekeeper save every time the ball was near the goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

Yes, it’s ridiculous. The stats do not add up an both ends a lot of times. Who’s keeping them at the games? Is it up to the school team itself to report? It’s terribly in accurate. It does matter to the players to get them right

I believe it's up to the winning team to report the book.

This year I overheard a coaching staff telling the opposing scorekeeper save every time the ball was near the goalie.

I've seen goalies who scored 2 goals in a game somehow in Newsday so seems to be pick a name from a hat.

Any word where and when the LI championships will be held

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word where and when the LI championships will be held

June!!!!

Long Island!!!!

How is Mt. Sinai 1st seed, when they were beat by SWR..?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Mt. Sinai 1st seed, when they were beat by SWR..?

It's gotta be strength of schedule calculated in the RPI. Who has more lower ranked teams on their schedule? Maybe their lowest ranked team is one step up from SWR lowest ranked team.

Another loss for Pequa. Tough one again today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another loss for Pequa. Tough one again today

Just not a good team this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

It didnt just get there been there for close to 10 years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Mt. Sinai 1st seed, when they were beat by SWR..?

It's gotta be strength of schedule calculated in the RPI. Who has more lower ranked teams on their schedule? Maybe their lowest ranked team is one step up from SWR lowest ranked team.

The RPI is BS, it starts from the beginning, before they play, when they know nothing and for this year they knew less. SWR not the only team that got short changed. But really how does a non-league/class loss factor into a pure league/class playoff?

Had Bay Shore beaten Ward Melville they would have owned the best record in A @ 13-1 and still had no shot at #1. At 12-2, they get ranked 5th and beat the 2nd and 3rd place teams. Shouldnt have been lower than 3, belonged at 2. RPI needs to be revamped. Cant be strength of schedule.

Who are the young great coaches just itching for a chance. I think Suffolk A will have a few openings!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

Yes, it’s ridiculous. The stats do not add up an both ends a lot of times. Who’s keeping them at the games? Is it up to the school team itself to report? It’s terribly in accurate. It does matter to the players to get them right

I believe it's up to the winning team to report the book.

This year I overheard a coaching staff telling the opposing scorekeeper save every time the ball was near the goalie.

I've seen goalies who scored 2 goals in a game somehow in Newsday so seems to be pick a name from a hat.

The basic calculation for save percentage is this:

Saves / Shots on Goal
13 saves / 25 shots on goal = 52% save percentage.

Now let’s talk definitions.

The basic definition of a Save is any time a shot is stopped or deflected, with any part of the goalie’s body or stick, and does NOT go into the goal.

Shot off the head, shot off the hip, shot off the shin, shot off the shaft, shot into the pocket of the stick. As long as it doesn’t go into the goal, that’s a save.

Shots that hit the post are NOT considered saves unless the goalie deflected the ball prior to it hitting the pipe.

Shots that miss the goal are NOT considered saves, again unless the goalie deflected the ball prior to it sailing high or wide.

Shots on Goal is this calculation: saves + goals.

That means a shot that sails wide or hits the pipe without being touched by the keeper does not count as an official shot on goal.

A shot that hits the pipe (not deflected by the goalie) does not count as an official shot on goal.

A shot that hits a defender and never makes it to the goalie does not count as a shot on goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another loss for Pequa. Tough one again today

Just not a good team this year.

Very young, no true FO hurts them. And i don't think all the coaches are on the same page.

Dude my son has been a Goalie for 13 years you really need to get a hobbie!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another loss for Pequa. Tough one again today

Just not a good team this year.

Very young, no true FO hurts them. And i don't think all the coaches are on the same page.[/

How does a once proud program, that is competitive year in, year out become a 7 lose team and it could easily be 8 or 9 loses. What really went wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another loss for Pequa. Tough one again today

Just not a good team this year.

Very young, no true FO hurts them. And i don't think all the coaches are on the same page.[/

How does a once proud program, that is competitive year in, year out become a 7 lose team and it could easily be 8 or 9 loses. What really went wrong?

Just a guess... the other teams have more talent...

Not familiar with the situation. Did they have a lot of injuries? Any players get suspended? Covid related issues?

If not, maybe they just don’t have the same amount of talent that they have had in the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Mt. Sinai 1st seed, when they were beat by SWR..?

It's gotta be strength of schedule calculated in the RPI. Who has more lower ranked teams on their schedule? Maybe their lowest ranked team is one step up from SWR lowest ranked team.

The RPI is BS, it starts from the beginning, before they play, when they know nothing and for this year they knew less. SWR not the only team that got short changed. But really how does a non-league/class loss factor into a pure league/class playoff?

Had Bay Shore beaten Ward Melville they would have owned the best record in A @ 13-1 and still had no shot at #1. At 12-2, they get ranked 5th and beat the 2nd and 3rd place teams. Shouldnt have been lower than 3, belonged at 2. RPI needs to be revamped. Cant be strength of schedule.

Bay Shore still had the loss to Huntington. If if if

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The recording and reporting of stats has reached a ridiculous level. I track my sons stats (goalie) for him to review shot location etc and review against game film. When he sees what other teams goalie are getting credit for its amazing. For those who say it doesn't matter there are school and county awards at stake.

It didnt just get there been there for close to 10 years

I remember watching the Suffolk C Championship in 2019 between Mt. Sinai and SWR. The Mt. Sinai freshman attackman was locked down the whole game but managed to get an assist. I was watching because of all the hubbub about the kid and wanted to see for myself.

As it turns out, I did see for myself. Newsday had him for 4 assists. I had him at one. The books are cooked and I've seen it with my own eyes.

Anyone have any predications for the Suffolk Playoffs?

A is up for grabs but I think Northport comes out on top....Strong D, Strong FOGO and Strong Goalie
B Is Wogue all the way
C I don't see how Mt Sinai loses again
D is Port Jeff.

Anyone else?

How does a once proud program, that is competitive year in, year out become a 7 lose team and it could easily be 8 or 9 loses. What really went wrong?

Its very simple they lose 95% of the faceoffs, they play D most of the game. They dont get a lot of touches on Offense. They lost one starter this year mid season otherwise they are full strength. They lost four games by 1 goal, are they the powerhouse of the past no but all you dads running your mouths about how great your team is the 1 and 2 seed beat them by 1 goal. Lets see what happens in the playoffs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does a once proud program, that is competitive year in, year out become a 7 lose team and it could easily be 8 or 9 loses. What really went wrong?

Its very simple they lose 95% of the faceoffs, they play D most of the game. They dont get a lot of touches on Offense. They lost one starter this year mid season otherwise they are full strength. They lost four games by 1 goal, are they the powerhouse of the past no but all you dads running your mouths about how great your team is the 1 and 2 seed beat them by 1 goal. Lets see what happens in the playoffs.

What he said! The top programs usually come to play in the playoffs even if the lost a few during the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does a once proud program, that is competitive year in, year out become a 7 lose team and it could easily be 8 or 9 loses. What really went wrong?

Its very simple they lose 95% of the faceoffs, they play D most of the game. They dont get a lot of touches on Offense. They lost one starter this year mid season otherwise they are full strength. They lost four games by 1 goal, are they the powerhouse of the past no but all you dads running your mouths about how great your team is the 1 and 2 seed beat them by 1 goal. Lets see what happens in the playoffs.

What he said! The top programs usually come to play in the playoffs even if the lost a few during the year.

I'd rather be Farmingdale and have a chance for revenge against the Hype Machine (Port) than be Blonde Ambition (Syosset) and have to play Pequa in the semifinals. Just sayin'

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Didn’t sound that way to me. Sounds pretty objective.

I'll say:

A: Ward Melville
B: West Islip
C: SWR
D: PJ

Who's taking the title for Suffolk D1?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Didn’t sound that way to me. Sounds pretty objective.

Once you realize and accept team makeup is not determined by which kids are the best players, but rather many other outside influences you will come to understand "who" and why that "who" is on the field at any given time. That said I agree with your statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

It always seems to be an issue. It is a conflict of interest. Nothing will ever be done about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

unless you're top 10% of your position there is really not plenty of club options for a 23, 24 or 25.... tough to make a team that has been playing together for 5 years or more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

unless you're top 10% of your position there is really not plenty of club options for a 23, 24 or 25.... tough to make a team that has been playing together for 5 years or more.

Grandfather in those kids. Start with younger kids. Rule is if HS coach is a club coach/owner, the club can't take kids from that HS. Problem solved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

unless you're top 10% of your position there is really not plenty of club options for a 23, 24 or 25.... tough to make a team that has been playing together for 5 years or more.

Grandfather in those kids. Start with younger kids. Rule is if HS coach is a club coach/owner, the club can't take kids from that HS. Problem solved.

If this is really about club owners hiring good HS coaches for coaching (rather than to pull kids from their towns who feel pressure to join the club of their HS coach so they see the field in HS), this solution should work. And if this is really about HS coaches being about to coach and supplement their incomes (rather than getting hired because the owners want them so they can pull kids from their towns who feel pressure to join), this should work. Of course it will never happen tho. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Every time time there is some constructive criticism, it's because their kid is not playing. Maybe you can't face the fact that what he stated is all true.

Not specific to Massapequa, but the situation of having HS coaches also being coaches/directors/owners of club teams is a big problem. People claim favoritism with TB, S2S, Igloo, LIE and probably others. On the other hand, is it fair to tell coaches who do not make a lot of money coaching that they can't supplement their income through club teams? What if the rule becomes HS coaches can continue to coach, own, etc. club teams but they can't have kids who they will coach in HS in their clubs? This will prevent the favoritism issues (which are real) and allow coaches to supplement their incomes. And we all know there are plenty of club options for the kids.

unless you're top 10% of your position there is really not plenty of club options for a 23, 24 or 25.... tough to make a team that has been playing together for 5 years or more.

The club owners, who also coach are making out very well for themselves. It's embarrassing watching, after a game parents kiss up to another adult (coach) whose kid plays on the coaches club team.

Any scores from today?

Pequa coach is following the catholic school business model. Just on a smaller level. Director of a club that Massapequa kids are expected to play for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

1) it is "why your kid", 2) they are very good teams I agree but not High School. 3) you cannot have 19 year olds on your team and still call yourself a High school. That is a prep-school tourney and yes are very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

such an unbelievably wrong statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

such an unbelievably wrong statement

Not One Public school could compete? Manhasset ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5 games were lost by 1 goal. Blame it on lack of experience or coaching or both. Not having a fogo hurts too. Offense is lacking and shooting poor. Same couple of kids are only ones that dodge so predictable. Offense doesn’t push and settles the ball so no easy goals. On defense not bad but kids get beat and yet play. Team defense was good but getting more exposed game after game and slides have been late or nonexistent. Overall team very young and will be competitive next yr but there definitely is some favoring of sophs at all positions that not saying shouldn’t be playing but maybe not playing as much. With the close losses maybe they can turn it around for playoffs but who knows.

Sounds like a very disgruntled parent whose kid doesn't see the field - sour grapes.

Didn’t sound that way to me. Sounds pretty objective.

From your point of view. You are the poison on the team. Not the coaches or the players. You. Bottom line is best players play. No one leaves stars on the bench to play less talented players. Its sports. Sometimes its not perfect but the coaches and kids give great effort. To lose five games by 1 you have to be fighting as a team. That is real team sports. Not criticizing every aspect of their game. Get a life.

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

What is the date of the LI Championship and what field?

nassau playoffs
A / D on Tues
B/C on wednesday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best teams on the island are all from Suffolk C. Then everyone else. That won’t change for at least next 3-4 years.

Comsewogue beat SWR, is currently ranked 19th in the nation and is in the "B" division. But you knew that of course...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Well maybe the same kids dodging all the time are the kids that coaches believe have a good chance to beat there guy? And if your being honest coaches kid is getting better every game IMO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Well maybe the same kids dodging all the time are the kids that coaches believe have a good chance to beat there guy? And if your being honest coaches kid is getting better every game IMO.

Also take into consideration that with the 2019 State Championship roster and no season last year more than likely this years lineup never played a second at the varsity level. Give them time.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

I agree with the above statement. Just a heads up people that detest Pequa the coaches son gets some playing time, some not a whole lot so not really sure why they continue to get bashed. The two Sophomores that start a Middie deserve to start so again not really seeing the favoritism.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Well maybe the same kids dodging all the time are the kids that coaches believe have a good chance to beat there guy? And if your being honest coaches kid is getting better every game IMO.

Also take into consideration that with the 2019 State Championship roster and no season last year more than likely this years lineup never played a second at the varsity level. Give them time.

That can be said about 90% of all teams this year. On an excuse. Hicksville should have made the playoffs over Pequa.

The team is struggling but don't worry they coaches kid is getting better. Mission accomplished.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Well maybe the same kids dodging all the time are the kids that coaches believe have a good chance to beat there guy? And if your being honest coaches kid is getting better every game IMO.

Also take into consideration that with the 2019 State Championship roster and no season last year more than likely this years lineup never played a second at the varsity level. Give them time.

That can be said about 90% of all teams this year. On an excuse. Hicksville should have made the playoffs over Pequa.

Not with the schedule Hicksville played. Plainview is probably strongest team Hicksville played....and lost

Anyone know when the announce the County and Conference awards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Junior and Seniors on Pequa that start all deserve to start. The Sophomores that start all deserve to start not really sure where all this other nonsense is coming from.

Anytime that there is a conflict of interest, there will be people who question who plays. It's not just Massapequa and lacrosse. Any Sport, any town that has a coach with a family's member on the team, people will question when they play their kid or their kids friends. Any coach who is a director and coach of a travel team that has players paying to play on the travel team will question the travel kids play time. If the kids deserve to play or not, they will always question it.

Well maybe the same kids dodging all the time are the kids that coaches believe have a good chance to beat there guy? And if your being honest coaches kid is getting better every game IMO.

Also take into consideration that with the 2019 State Championship roster and no season last year more than likely this years lineup never played a second at the varsity level. Give them time.

That can be said about 90% of all teams this year. On an excuse. Hicksville should have made the playoffs over Pequa.

Hicksville did make the playoffs. Big game Saturday against Malvern/east Rockaway.

Down goes Port.

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

I hope this is not coming from Port parent? that would be living in a glass house.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

I hope this is not coming from Port parent? that would be living in a glass house.

Is that why Port lost?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

I hope this is not coming from Port parent? that would be living in a glass house.

Nice try but no comparison. I have never seen anything like it. Drunk kids acting like animals. Right out of a news 12 story. Should all be ashamed of yourselves and embarrassed that your kids act like pigs

Down goes pequa. Rough year for the chiefs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

I hope this is not coming from Port parent? that would be living in a glass house.

Lol. PW fans are the worst. And Dale dominated them yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Farmingdale spectators trashiest ever. Disgusting . District should be ashamed of themselves supervisors should be fired

I hope this is not coming from Port parent? that would be living in a glass house.

Playoffs baby! Win or go home!

says the ref!

Shoreham OUT!!! Great game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes pequa. Rough year for the chiefs.

Yup, need to play better. They should compete next year for Nassau A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes pequa. Rough year for the chiefs.

Yup, need to play better. They should compete next year for Nassau A

Why do you think they will compete next year? Did you find out Petrakis as one more year of eligibility, lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Down goes pequa. Rough year for the chiefs.

Yup, need to play better. They should compete next year for Nassau A

Why do you think they will compete next year? Did you find out Petrakis as one more year of eligibility, lol

That’s pretty funny.

Coaches son is now a fogo. Going to be a good 2022

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches son is now a fogo. Going to be a good 2022

Ha. That’s where the kids go who can’t cut it as actual lacrosse players.

not glass houses. just a statement of fact. The younger fans at Farmindale like Sunday school -- no class. low class trash. You dont have to like or accept the facts but its true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not glass houses. just a statement of fact. The younger fans at Farmindale like Sunday school -- no class. low class trash. You dont have to like or accept the facts but its true.

Stop crying Port mommy. You lost. Enjoy your summer. Lol.

Long Island publics not even on the level of those teams . Any D1 roster bunch of kids are from Calvert Hall , McDonaugh , Culver , Boys Latin , Bullis , Haverford , Taft , Deerfield. Some of those schools are 65k a year for High School .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island publics not even on the level of those teams . Any D1 roster bunch of kids are from Calvert Hall , McDonaugh , Culver , Boys Latin , Bullis , Haverford , Taft , Deerfield. Some of those schools are 65k a year for High School .

Are you responding to a particular post? Traditionally the Top Long Island Publics as well as Chaminade and St Anthony's are on par with all of the other top HS Teams.

This year, at the very least, Manhasset, Chaminade and St Anthony's would all run with those teams.

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching the geico HS national tourney, there’s no team from LI that could compete with these guys. Maybe St Anthony’s last year with O’Neill, Deneza and Naso and I say that only because they played/started as freshman at Duke

And for all you parents wondering why you kid may not be committed, watch this game and ask your self can your kid do that.

such an unbelievably wrong statement

Not One Public school could compete? Manhasset ?

This topic : Long Island publics not even on the level of those teams . Any D1 roster bunch of kids are from Calvert Hall , McDonaugh , Culver , Boys Latin , Bullis , Haverford , Taft , Deerfield. Some of those schools are 65k a year for High School

It's comparing apples and oranges, all the NE Prep School team rosters are, on average, 1 to 2 years older than the typical Long Island roster. There isn't a team on Long Island that could run with the top prep schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

What school wouldn't want a 20 year old freshman?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This year, at the very least, Manhasset, Chaminade and St Anthony's would all run with those teams.

Manhasset has two studs this year and still wouldn't be able to complete with Chaminade and St Anthony's..

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not glass houses. just a statement of fact. The younger fans at Farmindale like Sunday school -- no class. low class trash. You dont have to like or accept the facts but its true.

Just because you say so doesn't make it factual. It is your opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Yes, and many of those big name transfers choked when they were needed. Gallagher lost to freshman, and Sowers did nothing when needed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Yes, and many of those big name transfers choked when they were needed. Gallagher lost to freshman, and Sowers did nothing when needed

Classless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Yes, and many of those big name transfers choked when they were needed. Gallagher lost to freshman, and Sowers did nothing when needed

Classless

People who never played lacrosse or who were not good and quit as a kid usually post classless comments. The players who stuck with the game respect it and their opponents and act accordingly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

Actually this is true but not for the reasons you infer. College coaches want the best players. Period. Their jobs depend on it. MANY of those players both men and women come from public schools. Considering that many top D1 lax schools are very expensive, many of those rosters are filled in with prep school kids who won’t receive any of the 12.6 and most likely won’t play but whose parents will gladly hand over the 60-70K so their kid can simply be on the roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Yes, and many of those big name transfers choked when they were needed. Gallagher lost to freshman, and Sowers did nothing when needed

Classless

Six of the top 20 in points per game are from LI public schools, Gray , Nichtern, Tierney on Tewaaraton list final 25.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

St Anthony's and Chaminade are excellent programs and are stronger than the majority of Public Schools year in and year out. That said, the Top Publics can and do compete with them.

2017 - 2019

Chaminade beat Ward Melville, Massapequa, Manhasset, Wilton.
Chaminade lost to Ward Melville and Manhasset.

2017 - 2019

St Anthhony's beat Manhasset and Syosset.
St Anthony's lost to Darien and Yorktown.

I believe Ward Melville and St Anthonys scrimmaged a few times between 2017 - 2019, they each "won" at least one, can't remember the 3rd game but "All Games" were competitive.

Maybe I missed a couple but you get the idea. Chaminade and St Anthony's are great programs but the Top Publics can certainly compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

St Anthony's and Chaminade are excellent programs and are stronger than the majority of Public Schools year in and year out. That said, the Top Publics can and do compete with them.

2017 - 2019

Chaminade beat Ward Melville, Massapequa, Manhasset, Wilton.
Chaminade lost to Ward Melville and Manhasset.

2017 - 2019

St Anthhony's beat Manhasset and Syosset.
St Anthony's lost to Darien and Yorktown.

I believe Ward Melville and St Anthonys scrimmaged a few times between 2017 - 2019, they each "won" at least one, can't remember the 3rd game but "All Games" were competitive.

Maybe I missed a couple but you get the idea. Chaminade and St Anthony's are great programs but the Top Publics can certainly compete.

Its a disgrace that Manhasset beats a 2nd round playoff team 22-5. Public schools are doomed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

St Anthony's and Chaminade are excellent programs and are stronger than the majority of Public Schools year in and year out. That said, the Top Publics can and do compete with them.

2017 - 2019

Chaminade beat Ward Melville, Massapequa, Manhasset, Wilton.
Chaminade lost to Ward Melville and Manhasset.

2017 - 2019

St Anthhony's beat Manhasset and Syosset.
St Anthony's lost to Darien and Yorktown.

I believe Ward Melville and St Anthonys scrimmaged a few times between 2017 - 2019, they each "won" at least one, can't remember the 3rd game but "All Games" were competitive.

Maybe I missed a couple but you get the idea. Chaminade and St Anthony's are great programs but the Top Publics can certainly compete.

Its a disgrace that Manhasset beats a 2nd round playoff team 22-5. Public schools are doomed

Public Schools like Manhasset, Garden City, and CSH are effectively private schools given the price tag and taxes to own a home in these locations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

St Anthony's and Chaminade are excellent programs and are stronger than the majority of Public Schools year in and year out. That said, the Top Publics can and do compete with them.

2017 - 2019

Chaminade beat Ward Melville, Massapequa, Manhasset, Wilton.
Chaminade lost to Ward Melville and Manhasset.

2017 - 2019

St Anthhony's beat Manhasset and Syosset.
St Anthony's lost to Darien and Yorktown.

I believe Ward Melville and St Anthonys scrimmaged a few times between 2017 - 2019, they each "won" at least one, can't remember the 3rd game but "All Games" were competitive.

Maybe I missed a couple but you get the idea. Chaminade and St Anthony's are great programs but the Top Publics can certainly compete.

Its a disgrace that Manhasset beats a 2nd round playoff team 22-5. Public schools are doomed

Doomed may be an exaggeration but there has to be a better way to align and seed the teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL TOP Div 1 teams want the prep school kids that is a fact

And look at those top D1 rosters…..each of them have kids from LI public schools. So I don’t really get your point

Yes, and many of those big name transfers choked when they were needed. Gallagher lost to freshman, and Sowers did nothing when needed

Classless

Six of the top 20 in points per game are from LI public schools, Gray , Nichtern, Tierney on Tewaaraton list final 25.

2 of those from the same HS

WHY ARE LACROSSE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT AT A NEUTRAL SITE!!!! ANOTHER SECTION X1 BLUNDER!!

Seaford needs a tax break and to play better movies. No Manhasset

Totally agree. I heard Nassau County is having theirs at a neutral site but out in Suffolk they’re not. They could have easily arranged for the game to be played in another town etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHY ARE LACROSSE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT AT A NEUTRAL SITE!!!! ANOTHER SECTION X1 BLUNDER!!

The Conference championship in the NFL is not neutral. It goes to the top team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHY ARE LACROSSE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT AT A NEUTRAL SITE!!!! ANOTHER SECTION X1 BLUNDER!!

The Conference championship in the NFL is not neutral. It goes to the top team.

Well, every other year, Lax county championships are held at neutral sites. This year should be no different. Section XI being lazy and incompetent

Where and when are LI Championship games.

Seaford has their day when they beat up on any football team below the 4th seed...Malverne has their day when they double up most teams in hoops. That's life...

I also remember little poor public school Manhasset beating the vaunted, hyped Long Island All-Star team Chaminade very recently. What I find ironic is that Chami and St. Anthony's REFUSE to play any school with PG's. Fair enough, but then they should hold the same righteous standard and refuse to play any public school because obviously the public schools are at such a disadvantage. Or Delbarton refusing to play Bergan, Bosco, Peter's etc. because they are too good in Football-really, but no problem beating up on Montclair? Hideous. St. Anthony's roster is about the same age as Deerfield's, Taft's etc.,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHY ARE LACROSSE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIPS NOT AT A NEUTRAL SITE!!!! ANOTHER SECTION X1 BLUNDER!!

The Conference championship in the NFL is not neutral. It goes to the top team.

Well, every other year, Lax county championships are held at neutral sites. This year should be no different. Section XI being lazy and incompetent

Total BS and should never be allowed to happen again

My son attends a NE Prep School and I can assure you that there isn't a roster in New York State that is, on average, the same age as any of the powerhouse NE Prep School teams...

It seems like some schools have released post season awards, All division, All county, etc. Does anyone know if there is a place to view them or is it done by the coach and the team.

St. A's has four definitive repeats that I know for a fact (there may be more) and one definitve holdback within that repeat group (there may be more), so their roster certainly WOULD compare very similarly in age profile to that of the NE Prep school that my son attends and many others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. A's has four definitive repeats that I know for a fact (there may be more) and one definitve holdback within that repeat group (there may be more), so their roster certainly WOULD compare very similarly in age profile to that of the NE Prep school that my son attends and many others.

Girls just want to have fun. Oh Oh girls just want to have fun

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems like some schools have released post season awards, All division, All county, etc. Does anyone know if there is a place to view them or is it done by the coach and the team.

These awards are usually given by the coaches, not independent people so start asking them.

Suffolk makes a mistake by not putting all the county finals at one place on one day, as college recruiters would love that type of event instead of picking and choosing and spending multiple nights in hotels etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems like some schools have released post season awards, All division, All county, etc. Does anyone know if there is a place to view them or is it done by the coach and the team.

Coach told the players this year at my sons school. Normally there is a dinner but doesn't look it is going to happen this year given the late finish to the season and school ending soon.

Why was the Suffolk County Championship game not played at a neutral location? Any section XI guidance on here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

In 2019 St Anthony's won the catholic league and beat manhasset on a last secong goal

They didn’t seem to care at all just like everything else they’ve done this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

St Anthony's kills everyone on their schedule and then plays Chaminade for some type of Championship. Isn't that every year? Pre-COVID sprinkle in some Darien, Manhasset, GC for out of conference fun....which are usually close games...but again....St Anthony's or Chaminade for the championship. Does that sum it up? Its like two travel teams beating everyone up at some lame tournament and then playing each other for the championship. Over and over. UVA...this year's NC in D1....has a few LI public school players on the team...playing. Why the detest on LI public schools?

The fact of the matter is the public schools would have a very hard time with St A or Chaminade. This year they would not be close. Much bigger size difference in terms of people at the school. Doesn't make either choice the better one. High school goes by too quickly to worry about it. Enjoy the process, enjoy the long summers up and down 95. If your kid plays after high school, great. If not, enjoy the ride...its over quickly.

Manhasset very good team but I saw them play Chaminade a couple of years ago and it was like men v. boys. Chaminade had better players and way more depth.

In 2019 St Anthony's won the catholic league and beat manhasset on a last secong goal

You're responding to an stunad.

Anybody have information on Maverick Showtime this year? Which kids are selected and how you get picked? I heard this was a big event.

Maverik is this weekend. The participants attending this year are those selected for last years event yet was cancelled due to COVID. It is by invite/recommendation only. Is a big event with great competition as well as well attended by College coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]It seems like some schools have released post season awards, All division, All county, etc. Does anyone know if there is a place to view them or is it done by the coach and the team.

These awards are usually given by the coaches, not independent people so start asking them.[

Who are the picks the kids for the awards.

So at the beginning of the lacrosse season, there were several posters that predicted the traditional "winning" programs in Nassau would not be at the top of their conferences at the end of the season. There would be "non-traditional" teams at the top due to D-1 commits. How did that play out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So at the beginning of the lacrosse season, there were several posters that predicted the traditional "winning" programs in Nassau would not be at the top of their conferences at the end of the season. There would be "non-traditional" teams at the top due to D-1 commits. How did that play out?

GC was mediocre this year. They only won B because B is terrible. They probably would not have made semis in A and they would not have made finals in C.

Stop. GC would win Nassau A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop. GC would win Nassau A.

They lost to 2 of the top 3 teams in A...?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So at the beginning of the lacrosse season, there were several posters that predicted the traditional "winning" programs in Nassau would not be at the top of their conferences at the end of the season. There would be "non-traditional" teams at the top due to D-1 commits. How did that play out?

GC was mediocre this year. They only won B because B is terrible. They probably would not have made semis in A and they would not have made finals in C.

Well you didn’t answer at all I see.

GC would not have won "A".
Syosset won "A" going away with blowouts.
GC would have been beat the same way.
Come on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So at the beginning of the lacrosse season, there were several posters that predicted the traditional "winning" programs in Nassau would not be at the top of their conferences at the end of the season. There would be "non-traditional" teams at the top due to D-1 commits. How did that play out?

GC was mediocre this year. They only won B because B is terrible. They probably would not have made semis in A and they would not have made finals in C.

Well you didn’t answer at all I see.

I predicted Garden City wouldn’t be very good this year and I was right.

NP is going to destroy Syosset. Syosset won a weak Nassau A division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So at the beginning of the lacrosse season, there were several posters that predicted the traditional "winning" programs in Nassau would not be at the top of their conferences at the end of the season. There would be "non-traditional" teams at the top due to D-1 commits. How did that play out?

GC was mediocre this year. They only won B because B is terrible. They probably would not have made semis in A and they would not have made finals in C.

Well you didn’t answer at all I see.

I predicted Garden City wouldn’t be very good this year and I was right.

Well the record doesn’t indicate that. But okay. You also predicted no. Traditional programs were going to be good because of D-1 commits. You were very wrong.

no sir it will be a close LIC in "A"
no one will destroy Syosset this year.
You can take that to the bank

Stop with the3 "A" nonsense. CSH would've won A (again) and Manhasset stomped them and GC. C, B, A once again in Nassau...

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Garden city displayed an absolute disgusting display of winning sportsmanship. At the GC vs comsewogue game, one of the garden city parents (#10 to be specific she made that very clear) decided to yell slander at the family of the opposing coach calling them “trash” as they were minding their business walking out of the game. The mother, who obviously had way to much to drink, than decided to continue her belligerent rant and start an argument between herself and the opposing coaches family. Unfortunately one of the comsewogue students got in the cross fire of this women’s drunken rampage and this women ended up kicking a 16 year old in the back. I hope garden city administration, support system, and fans can hold this women accountable for her actions at a HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE GAME.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Nope, the D-1 kids meant nothing. Those kids will play D-1, congrats. Those kids who play D-3 congrats. The memories are the same. Losing is the same whether by a lot or a little. Fact is, the non traditional teams didn’t win. GC won another county and LI championship. Your lacrosse knowledge is zero. Thanks for participating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Nope, the D-1 kids meant nothing. Those kids will play D-1, congrats. Those kids who play D-3 congrats. The memories are the same. Losing is the same whether by a lot or a little. Fact is, the non traditional teams didn’t win. GC won another county and LI championship. Your lacrosse knowledge is zero. Thanks for participating.

Your disappointment in your kid not going D1 is showing. Congrats to the HS championship. Sorry to tell you there are bigger and better things out there. Enjoy the experience you will get at a school like Muhlenberg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Nope, the D-1 kids meant nothing. Those kids will play D-1, congrats. Those kids who play D-3 congrats. The memories are the same. Losing is the same whether by a lot or a little. Fact is, the non traditional teams didn’t win. GC won another county and LI championship. Your lacrosse knowledge is zero. Thanks for participating.

Wow, what a pompous man you are. Can’t wait to see your “superstar “ disappear into the oblivion of D1lax. What will daddy say when he can’t fix things? You are in for a rude awakening. Guess you will always have your glory days to look back on!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden city displayed an absolute disgusting display of winning sportsmanship. At the GC vs comsewogue game, one of the garden city parents (#10 to be specific she made that very clear) decided to yell slander at the family of the opposing coach calling them “trash” as they were minding their business walking out of the game. The mother, who obviously had way to much to drink, than decided to continue her belligerent rant and start an argument between herself and the opposing coaches family. Unfortunately one of the comsewogue students got in the cross fire of this women’s drunken rampage and this women ended up kicking a 16 year old in the back. I hope garden city administration, support system, and fans can hold this women accountable for her actions at a HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE GAME.

So to be clear, it was a SINGLE woman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Nope, the D-1 kids meant nothing. Those kids will play D-1, congrats. Those kids who play D-3 congrats. The memories are the same. Losing is the same whether by a lot or a little. Fact is, the non traditional teams didn’t win. GC won another county and LI championship. Your lacrosse knowledge is zero. Thanks for participating.

Wow, what a pompous man you are. Can’t wait to see your “superstar “ disappear into the oblivion of D1lax. What will daddy say when he can’t fix things? You are in for a rude awakening. Guess you will always have your glory days to look back on!

The only thing anyone should be concerned with is the education these kids will get. We are lucky that most of the Long Island kids who are playing d1 are going to good academic schools. Hopefully all kids d1-3 got into a better academic school then what they would have got into without lacrosse. The rest of this talk such as championships and sitting on the bench means nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden city displayed an absolute disgusting display of winning sportsmanship. At the GC vs comsewogue game, one of the garden city parents (#10 to be specific she made that very clear) decided to yell slander at the family of the opposing coach calling them “trash” as they were minding their business walking out of the game. The mother, who obviously had way to much to drink, than decided to continue her belligerent rant and start an argument between herself and the opposing coaches family. Unfortunately one of the comsewogue students got in the cross fire of this women’s drunken rampage and this women ended up kicking a 16 year old in the back. I hope garden city administration, support system, and fans can hold this women accountable for her actions at a HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE GAME.

Right up there with the Farmingdale trash student spectators and even trashier moms and supervisors who couldn’t control the kids after the game was over

That’s terrible. I don’t understand some of these parents/adults. Sure you can get worked up and want your son to win but many of these people behave like they’re back in middle after a few beers. I’m sure the GC player she came to see is beyond embarrassed. Hopefully not the poor kid’s mother, but likely is. The boys work incredibly hard all season to win the championship only to have some pathetic woman stain the moment behaving like a drunken fool.

per post game reporting:Comsewogue (15-2) came into the matchup with double-digit scoring totals in 10 games, and scored no fewer than six goals in a single contest all season. Understanding that, Garden City locked in defensively, beginning with a stout level of physicality that helped limit Comsewogue throughout the day.

Final 5-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That’s terrible. I don’t understand some of these parents/adults. Sure you can get worked up and want your son to win but many of these people behave like they’re back in middle after a few beers. I’m sure the GC player she came to see is beyond embarrassed. Hopefully not the poor kid’s mother, but likely is. The boys work incredibly hard all season to win the championship only to have some pathetic woman stain the moment behaving like a drunken fool.

Let’s not take a bitter “parents” word as gospel here. Everyone seems awful naive lately.

Stop it. The parents were awful and have no class. Feel sorry for the kid. Just plain embarrassing. She should have been thrown out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop it. The parents were awful and have no class. Feel sorry for the kid. Just plain embarrassing. She should have been thrown out.

Again, was it parents or a single person? That is why I sense a bit of anger and disappointment on your part. Not clear here. If it was parents say so, if it was a parent be clear. Seems to me that you’re just really upset at the loss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Garden city displayed an absolute disgusting display of winning sportsmanship. At the GC vs comsewogue game, one of the garden city parents (#10 to be specific she made that very clear) decided to yell slander at the family of the opposing coach calling them “trash” as they were minding their business walking out of the game. The mother, who obviously had way to much to drink, than decided to continue her belligerent rant and start an argument between herself and the opposing coaches family. Unfortunately one of the comsewogue students got in the cross fire of this women’s drunken rampage and this women ended up kicking a 16 year old in the back. I hope garden city administration, support system, and fans can hold this women accountable for her actions at a HIGH SCHOOL LACROSSE GAME.

So in this day and age absolutely no one took a cell phone video and an adult assaults a minor. Where is the news 12 report? No cameras at a Long Island Lax championship? Lax parents video practices and scrimmages here.

Great win by Northport! Syosset battled but Northport showed who they are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So basically the traditional lacrosse powers prevailed. The non traditional teams finished where they all do, and D-1 commits mean nothing.

Means nothing? Now that high school is over those D1 guys get to continue to compete where most kids wanted to be and could not get there. They will have great D1 memories. Now that HS is over some kids will only get to talk about beating MacArthur and East Meadow 16-0. The non traditional schools did very well. No one expected them to win it all. Just compete. Most years GC would beat Carey by a lot. This year GC only won by three. So having D1 kids did mean something.

Nope, the D-1 kids meant nothing. Those kids will play D-1, congrats. Those kids who play D-3 congrats. The memories are the same. Losing is the same whether by a lot or a little. Fact is, the non traditional teams didn’t win. GC won another county and LI championship. Your lacrosse knowledge is zero. Thanks for participating.

Your disappointment in your kid not going D1 is showing. Congrats to the HS championship. Sorry to tell you there are bigger and better things out there. Enjoy the experience you will get at a school like Muhlenberg.

Thanks, enjoy Monmouth! You can tell everyone he's a D-1 stud on the Jersey Shore. It looks great on the resume.

Does anyone know where to find a list of Suffolk County Boys lax awards?

NP had a very good team and is talented. And you are 100% correct. Nassau A was a weak conference this year.

Nassau A rarely produces the best team in Nassau. Literally for the last 30 years the best team has been GC, Set, or CSH and with maybe three outliers, Syo, F'Dale or Pequa in a given year.

I see a lot of HS athletes doing PG years and I'd imagine that this will only increase due to the recruiting fallout from covid.

How are PG years typically facilitated.

Do most athletes simply reach out to coaches at multiple schools to gauge interest or is it worked through the HS coach?

NP did not destroy Syosset as you predicted.
The game went to the final possession to decide winner.
It could have gone either way.
So how is Nassau so weak this year?
It took the Suffolk champ to the very end to win the game.
Both counties are very close.

Down year in both Nassau and Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know where to find a list of Suffolk County Boys lax awards?

Nothing is listed anywhere for either county? Why not?

Suffolk A was a pillow fight with no dominant team-it was not that they were all elite-that is why it was a down year. Ditto for Nassau A, though Syosset was consistently the best team throughout the season in that conference. Any of 6 teams from Suffolk A had a shot at the Suffolk crown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see a lot of HS athletes doing PG years and I'd imagine that this will only increase due to the recruiting fallout from covid.

How are PG years typically facilitated.

Do most athletes simply reach out to coaches at multiple schools to gauge interest or is it worked through the HS coach?

Exactly.

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.) 11-1 1
2 St. John's (D.C.) 11-1 3
3 Mount Sinai (N.Y.) 16-1 14
4 Georgetown Prep (Md.) 14-3 4
5 Manhasset (N.Y.) 15-1 2
6 Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2 5
7 Boys' Latin (Md.) 10-4 6
8 McDonogh (Md.) 11-1 7
9 Malvern Prep (Pa.) 19-2 8
10 Culver Academy (Ind.) 13-2 9
11 Brunswick (Conn.) 14-3 10
12 Archbishop Spalding (Md.) 12-3 11
13 Don Bosco (N.J.) 18-0 13
14 Garden City (N.Y.) 13-3 NR
15 Northport (N.Y.) 15-3 NR
16 DeMatha (Md.) 7-2 17
17 Summit (N.J.) 18-1 12
18 Bullis (Md.) 8-5 18
19 Mountain Lakes (N.J.) 18-2 19
20 Ridgefield (Conn.) 16-7 20
21 Darien (Conn.) 19-2 21
22 Webster Thomas (N.Y.) 15-1 NR
23 Torrey Pines (Calif.) 13-2 NR
24 Comsewogue (N.Y.) 15-2 16
25 Canandaigua (N.Y.) 16-2 15
US Lax Final Rankings 2021..6 team Top 15 from LI...Down year?????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 St. Anthony's (N.Y.) 11-1 1
2 St. John's (D.C.) 11-1 3
3 Mount Sinai (N.Y.) 16-1 14
4 Georgetown Prep (Md.) 14-3 4
5 Manhasset (N.Y.) 15-1 2
6 Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2 5
7 Boys' Latin (Md.) 10-4 6
8 McDonogh (Md.) 11-1 7
9 Malvern Prep (Pa.) 19-2 8
10 Culver Academy (Ind.) 13-2 9
11 Brunswick (Conn.) 14-3 10
12 Archbishop Spalding (Md.) 12-3 11
13 Don Bosco (N.J.) 18-0 13
14 Garden City (N.Y.) 13-3 NR
15 Northport (N.Y.) 15-3 NR
16 DeMatha (Md.) 7-2 17
17 Summit (N.J.) 18-1 12
18 Bullis (Md.) 8-5 18
19 Mountain Lakes (N.J.) 18-2 19
20 Ridgefield (Conn.) 16-7 20
21 Darien (Conn.) 19-2 21
22 Webster Thomas (N.Y.) 15-1 NR
23 Torrey Pines (Calif.) 13-2 NR
24 Comsewogue (N.Y.) 15-2 16
25 Canandaigua (N.Y.) 16-2 15
US Lax Final Rankings 2021..6 team Top 15 from LI...Down year?????

Hmmmmmm, seems to me Garden City is pretty good. 14 in the nation. Someone was really wrong on here. Or he knows better than the writer of this article. Well??

Stop it! They shouldn’t even be 14. They played against a bunch of duds. Any team with any talent, they lost too. Go back to your red cup and don’t ever leave your bubble. You will be really disappointed.

Malvern and Brunswick would romp just about all the teams on this list. GC on here based on reputation. There is no way whoever put this list together saw them play live. Darien would've run GC and Northport off the field...

I see claims on highlight videos for 2021 All County, Academic All County, even All American candidates. Where and how are these claims substantiated? I found no listing of All County honors for Nassau or Suffolk or any criteria for Academic awards. Our school (Nassau) has several games with zero stats recorded to Newsday and LILJ. We can't possibly be the only school. Can a coach or school official please chime in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Malvern and Brunswick would romp just about all the teams on this list. GC on here based on reputation. There is no way whoever put this list together saw them play live. Darien would've run GC and Northport off the field...

US lacrosse put the list out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop it! They shouldn’t even be 14. They played against a bunch of duds. Any team with any talent, they lost too. Go back to your red cup and don’t ever leave your bubble. You will be really disappointed.

I Dislike GC as much as most in Nassau county as they are consistently beating my town in the playoffs, So I take offense to the disrespect of calling my team duds!

My sons coach told him he made All County and will be given his award at our team dinner over the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see a lot of HS athletes doing PG years and I'd imagine that this will only increase due to the recruiting fallout from covid.

How are PG years typically facilitated.

Do most athletes simply reach out to coaches at multiple schools to gauge interest or is it worked through the HS coach?

My son was offered PG year and go to a mid major or play D2 now. He went D2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop it! They shouldn’t even be 14. They played against a bunch of duds. Any team with any talent, they lost too. Go back to your red cup and don’t ever leave your bubble. You will be really disappointed.

I Dislike GC as much as most in Nassau county as they are consistently beating my town in the playoffs, So I take offense to the disrespect of calling my team duds!

M
I agree! Who are you calling duds? Why don’t you throw on your old pads and compete against these kids? You sound like a total stunad who never played or maybe played for a team of duds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop it! They shouldn’t even be 14. They played against a bunch of duds. Any team with any talent, they lost too. Go back to your red cup and don’t ever leave your bubble. You will be really disappointed.

I Dislike GC as much as most in Nassau county as they are consistently beating my town in the playoffs, So I take offense to the disrespect of calling my team duds!

M
I agree! Who are you calling duds? Why don’t you throw on your old pads and compete against these kids? You sound like a total stunad who never played or maybe played for a team of duds

Confusing post

My team crushed GC when we played them. Hardly a bunch of duds. I think his foot is stuck in his mouth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My team crushed GC when we played them. Hardly a bunch of duds. I think his foot is stuck in his mouth

Give GC credit. No great player on the team this year and they still won. We know they had a weak schedule and lost to all the decent teams they played. We also know they would have not have made the championship game in A or C but they can only play who the schedule says they play. Impressive they can win with only two players with more than 20 goals. When they played a good team they held the ball to keep the score low. Smart coaching and good team play with no great player was obviously good enough to win the B championship. No matter what anyone says they did win it all when many of us thought they could not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My team crushed GC when we played them. Hardly a bunch of duds. I think his foot is stuck in his mouth

What grade are you in?

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

A little off-topic. if a camp you want to attned this summer has been sold out since march- can you ask an attending school to get you off the waitlist?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My team crushed GC when we played them. Hardly a bunch of duds. I think his foot is stuck in his mouth

Give GC credit. No great player on the team this year and they still won. We know they had a weak schedule and lost to all the decent teams they played. We also know they would have not have made the championship game in A or C but they can only play who the schedule says they play. Impressive they can win with only two players with more than 20 goals. When they played a good team they held the ball to keep the score low. Smart coaching and good team play with no great player was obviously good enough to win the B championship. No matter what anyone says they did win it all when many of us thought they could not.

no great player???? Do you watch games? Do you talk to people who watch games? The best defender is one of the best in '22 class and the Face Off guy is probably the best in '22. They almost recorded a shut out in LIC. They lost games early in season when they had just finished football. The 30 or so kids who played football did not do much lacrosse in the 10 day overlap. if they played those 3 games at the end of season maybe they win 2 of them. And they have the best coaching staff. I am not a GC fan or part of GC family --but you must respect the program, players and coaches.

Not a fan or part of the family? Ok face off daddy. Whatever you say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a fan or part of the family? Ok face off daddy. Whatever you say.

You’re really an angered person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

If they combined the Sachem programs back as one they could compete with anyone like they did before the split.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop it! They shouldn’t even be 14. They played against a bunch of duds. Any team with any talent, they lost too. Go back to your red cup and don’t ever leave your bubble. You will be really disappointed.

I Dislike GC as much as most in Nassau county as they are consistently beating my town in the playoffs, So I take offense to the disrespect of calling my team duds!

The question is WHY/ Why do you dislike GC? Why does anyone dislike a community? Because they beat your town in a sport? The people who live there are not obnoxious pretentious jerks. So very curious.

It was a great season for Nassau and Suffolk publics. And thankfully it actually happened! The lacrosse was very good. It will never be good enough for the folks that are addicted to travel lacrosse. Those folks are on another level as far as lacrosse and expectations. But overall, it was a great season with great lacrosse. You can detest on the Garden Citys all you want....they know how to win when it counts. Commsewogue was a legit team all year and GC handled them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

If they combined the Sachem programs back as one they could compete with anyone like they did before the split.

Yes Sachem probably would be State champs if combined BUT you can also say that for Smithtown and HHH combined as 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

If they combined the Sachem programs back as one they could compete with anyone like they did before the split.

Yes Sachem probably would be State champs if combined BUT you can also say that for Smithtown and HHH combined as 1.

Just curious, how many State Championships did those schools win when they were combined ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

If they combined the Sachem programs back as one they could compete with anyone like they did before the split.

Nope, in my opinion coaching isn’t on par with the competition in Suffolk A, but their youth program is well run and that should help with the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

McDonogh Vs Calvert Hall on ESPN U. Long island teams cant hang sorry .Li publics cant hang with 45/50k private schools

LI public’s can’t hang with 13k privates.

I'm a big Chaminade homer -- the good public schools on Long Island can and do. I take it you didn't play growing up?

Which public’s? Manhasset and who else? And yes I played. Apparently you think that somehow validates lacrosse in 2021. Not sure how.

If they combined the Sachem programs back as one they could compete with anyone like they did before the split.

Nope, in my opinion coaching isn’t on par with the competition in Suffolk A, but their youth program is well run and that should help with the future.

That’s funny.

When is the last time a LI public beat St. A’s or Cham.? Any LI public’s consistently beat either of these teams? Asking for a guy who played in the 80’s and thinks that’s relevant to something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see claims on highlight videos for 2021 All County, Academic All County, even All American candidates. Where and how are these claims substantiated? I found no listing of All County honors for Nassau or Suffolk or any criteria for Academic awards. Our school (Nassau) has several games with zero stats recorded to Newsday and LILJ. We can't possibly be the only school. Can a coach or school official please chime in.

Our coach told the players who made county, conference and class. Other than that have seen or heard nothing. Section 8, NYS, and NCLCA all need to step up their websites and reporting. There is literally no information.

Who cares about Public's, Catholic, Private, PG just let the kids play and hopefully every knucklehead dad on here will be proud of their kid whether he plays D-1,2,3 or doesn't play in college. The nonsense here is amazing. You should all want your kids to be happy and get the best education possible. Good luck this summer to the boys...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see claims on highlight videos for 2021 All County, Academic All County, even All American candidates. Where and how are these claims substantiated? I found no listing of All County honors for Nassau or Suffolk or any criteria for Academic awards. Our school (Nassau) has several games with zero stats recorded to Newsday and LILJ. We can't possibly be the only school. Can a coach or school official please chime in.

Our coach told the players who made county, conference and class. Other than that have seen or heard nothing. Section 8, NYS, and NCLCA all need to step up their websites and reporting. There is literally no information.

Just going to put it out there, You don't really think any coaches or school officials are on here, do you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see claims on highlight videos for 2021 All County, Academic All County, even All American candidates. Where and how are these claims substantiated? I found no listing of All County honors for Nassau or Suffolk or any criteria for Academic awards. Our school (Nassau) has several games with zero stats recorded to Newsday and LILJ. We can't possibly be the only school. Can a coach or school official please chime in.

Our coach told the players who made county, conference and class. Other than that have seen or heard nothing. Section 8, NYS, and NCLCA all need to step up their websites and reporting. There is literally no information.

Just going to put it out there, You don't really think any coaches or school officials are on here, do you?

There are absolutely coaches on this site...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see claims on highlight videos for 2021 All County, Academic All County, even All American candidates. Where and how are these claims substantiated? I found no listing of All County honors for Nassau or Suffolk or any criteria for Academic awards. Our school (Nassau) has several games with zero stats recorded to Newsday and LILJ. We can't possibly be the only school. Can a coach or school official please chime in.

Our coach told the players who made county, conference and class. Other than that have seen or heard nothing. Section 8, NYS, and NCLCA all need to step up their websites and reporting. There is literally no information.

Just going to put it out there, You don't really think any coaches or school officials are on here, do you?

There are absolutely coaches on this site...

No there isn’t

IF THERE ARE COACHES HERE THE WEST ISLIP COACH SHOULD GO COACH JV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL of there losses came in second half

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IF THERE ARE COACHES HERE THE WEST ISLIP COACH SHOULD GO COACH JV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL of there losses came in second half

Why are you bashing the WI Coach? Isn't he somewhat new? West Islip has not been relevant for 10 years or so. Bigger issues than the coach. I will say, their girls coach does an excellent job, one of the best in Suffolk, maybe on The Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IF THERE ARE COACHES HERE THE WEST ISLIP COACH SHOULD GO COACH JV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL of there losses came in second half

Seriously? You think anyone cares about JV??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IF THERE ARE COACHES HERE THE WEST ISLIP COACH SHOULD GO COACH JV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL of there losses came in second half

Seriously? You think anyone cares about JV??

Yes. People do. Specifically people with kids that play JV.

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

FYI Careys D-1 commits were hurt most of the season and the coach does a phenomenal job.

I know 1in 2016 Massapequa lost in OT 12 to11 , 2017 I think it was 7 to 6 to Chaminade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

FYI Careys D-1 commits were hurt most of the season and the coach does a phenomenal job.

FYI when their D-1 Commits were on the field it made no difference. Carey had one quality win against PW. The season was a disaster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

Most kids or parents would rather play on a lesser high school team and have the option after high school do go to a good academic d1 college or a better academic school than what they would have got into without playing lacrosse. So in your reply you are focusing on high school team success while the original poster was focused on college placement success. Saying d1 commits means nothing is not fair if college placement is more important to someone than playing for a strong high school team. But I do agree d1 commits mean nothing if you have no depth behind them. Carey did hold there own against GC when in all other years they would have never been close. So in that sense the d1 commits did have at least some meaning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

FYI Careys D-1 commits were hurt most of the season and the coach does a phenomenal job.

FYI when their D-1 Commits were on the field it made no difference. Carey had one quality win against PW. The season was a disaster.

FYI Not from Carey but have watched their coach do unbelievable things coaching boys over the yrs. Carey beats PW and a very good Southside team, then loses in the county championship to the LI champion. Far from a disaster. Please stop with your nonsense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IF THERE ARE COACHES HERE THE WEST ISLIP COACH SHOULD GO COACH JV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL of there losses came in second half

Seriously? You think anyone cares about JV??

Yes. People do. Specifically people with kids that play JV.

Both my kids play JV its no better than PAL. Ask you kid if they cared about the score. You, maybe, them, not so much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

AD is a baseball guy. But he at least he recognized that a change was needed. The program will be on the right track with a new staff that can attract players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

FYI Careys D-1 commits were hurt most of the season and the coach does a phenomenal job.

FYI when their D-1 Commits were on the field it made no difference. Carey had one quality win against PW. The season was a disaster.

FYI Not from Carey but have watched their coach do unbelievable things coaching boys over the yrs. Carey beats PW and a very good Southside team, then loses in the county championship to the LI champion. Far from a disaster. Please stop with your nonsense!

It’s HS lacrosse, the Carey 5 got beat by a team without a single D-1 commit. That says a lot about the quality of the program. This thread is for HS lacrosse. Carey got beat bad by a team without a 2021 D-1 commit. Wishing them well but the program is a disaster if over 50 percent of the team are quality D-1 players and you can’t get past a team with zero D-1 commits. Not sure how the coach is amazing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

About 4/7 years ago Smithtowns had probably the most dominant players that went to D1 but both east and west never made it off the island because of coaching. They breed F/O yr after yr and alot of D1’s .

As we have seen, D-1 commits mean nothing. See Carey HS circa 2021 to validate this.

FYI Careys D-1 commits were hurt most of the season and the coach does a phenomenal job.

FYI when their D-1 Commits were on the field it made no difference. Carey had one quality win against PW. The season was a disaster.

FYI Not from Carey but have watched their coach do unbelievable things coaching boys over the yrs. Carey beats PW and a very good Southside team, then loses in the county championship to the LI champion. Far from a disaster. Please stop with your nonsense!

It’s HS lacrosse, the Carey 5 got beat by a team without a single D-1 commit. That says a lot about the quality of the program. This thread is for HS lacrosse. Carey got beat bad by a team without a 2021 D-1 commit. Wishing them well but the program is a disaster if over 50 percent of the team are quality D-1 players and you can’t get past a team with zero D-1 commits. Not sure how the coach is amazing?

Do you have any idea of what the 2021 class went through as far as recruiting. Your ignorance is glowing brightly in this post. Many players who would have gone D1 had to compete against 5th year seniors, and took D2 and D3 spots or reclassed because of COVID. So I wouldn't base anything in 2021 on D1 commits. It was a total poop show for these kids.

Carey had a bunch of D1 commits but no team chemistry

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

The detest comes from a comment back in the spring. Someone said Carey would take down GC because of the 5 D1 commits. Now people are throwing back at them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

The detest comes from a comment back in the spring. Someone said Carey would take down GC because of the 5 D1 commits. Now people are throwing back at them.

Precisely, if you’re going to give out all that detest, write that it’s the end of an era for a successful program and there’s a new sheriff in town, you best back it up. Best team Carey has ever had, they completely underperformed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

That would be a huge huge positive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

The detest comes from a comment back in the spring. Someone said Carey would take down GC because of the 5 D1 commits. Now people are throwing back at them.

Precisely, if you’re going to give out all that detest, write that it’s the end of an era for a successful program and there’s a new sheriff in town, you best back it up. Best team Carey has ever had, they completely underperformed.

Lack of depth was a problem. They did well considering what they had after D1 guys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

The detest comes from a comment back in the spring. Someone said Carey would take down GC because of the 5 D1 commits. Now people are throwing back at them.

Precisely, if you’re going to give out all that detest, write that it’s the end of an era for a successful program and there’s a new sheriff in town, you best back it up. Best team Carey has ever had, they completely underperformed.

Lack of depth was a problem. They did well considering what they had after D1 guys.

Same as every other year. Competitive team that will be perpetually middle of the pack. If they did well with 5 D-1 recruits, GC did an incredible job with zero.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

Which is the team that Carey lost to with zero commits? Why all the detest on Carey ? Carey lost to GC in County Final and Beat Southside in 1/4 final. Southside has about 4-5 commits.

The detest comes from a comment back in the spring. Someone said Carey would take down GC because of the 5 D1 commits. Now people are throwing back at them.

Precisely, if you’re going to give out all that detest, write that it’s the end of an era for a successful program and there’s a new sheriff in town, you best back it up. Best team Carey has ever had, they completely underperformed.

Lack of depth was a problem. They did well considering what they had after D1 guys.

Same as every other year. Competitive team that will be perpetually middle of the pack. If they did well with 5 D-1 recruits, GC did an incredible job with zero.

Depth is what makes the top teams, at least in Suffolk, the top teams. From what I saw this season, the first lines of every team were competitive with each other. The second lines are what separated the top from the best of the middle of the pack. Without 2 solid lines of middie, you won’t win in Suffolk A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Someone like him or a spallina to build a program there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

Someone like him or a spallina to build a program there.

Just need a dedicated staff with an ability to attract players. That’s the model of every other successful parochial school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

That would be a huge huge positive

Who is Zummo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

This could turn into good job if they had the right coach in place to compete with the St. Anthony's and other dominant catholic schools. Not saying there even close to that now, but with the right coaches in place that program could turn into a powerhouse.

They need a club connection.

Need to get Zummo over there

That would be a huge huge positive

Who is Zummo?

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion

Who is Zummo?[/quote]

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion[/quote]

Thanks Tommy

Bad job by Newsday on the All Long Island teams. So many great players in lesser named programs overlooked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad job by Newsday on the All Long Island teams. So many great players in lesser named programs overlooked.

Team 2 would probably beat Team 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad job by Newsday on the All Long Island teams. So many great players in lesser named programs overlooked.

Team 2 would probably beat Team 1

Coach of year always goes to blue chip programs with hundreds of kids to choose, from come on. Macrthur, Carey, Bethpage boys coaches all overlooked Lots of upsets in early playoff rounds with little to no coverage. Some phenomenal girls on small bad teams not even considered. Agreed bad job Newsday.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is Zummo?

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion[/quote]

Thanks Tommy[/quote]

Lol, wrong. But it’s moot anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

What facts are you basing this on? Because that sounds really ignorant. They should be D-1 commits but are going D-3? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

What facts are you basing this on? Because that sounds really ignorant. They should be D-1 commits but are going D-3? Seriously?

Yes, it happened to many 2021's this year. Did you pay attention to the recruiting class? I personally know kids who were talking to many mid majors, mine included. This year there were kids who took D2 and D3 offers instead of going to a low level D1.
Are you seriously going to say a kid who made All Long Island wouldn't get D1 offers if it wasn't for COVID? Garden City had 3 kids on All Long Island, 1 of them was first team. I also know for a fact that one of the Carey kids turned down several D1 offers to go to Pace. Get your head out of the turf if you haven't experienced it personally.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

What facts are you basing this on? Because that sounds really ignorant. They should be D-1 commits but are going D-3? Seriously?

Yes, it happened to many 2021's this year. Did you pay attention to the recruiting class? I personally know kids who were talking to many mid majors, mine included. This year there were kids who took D2 and D3 offers instead of going to a low level D1.
Are you seriously going to say a kid who made All Long Island wouldn't get D1 offers if it wasn't for COVID? Garden City had 3 kids on All Long Island, 1 of them was first team. I also know for a fact that one of the Carey kids turned down several D1 offers to go to Pace. Get your head out of the turf if you haven't experienced it personally.

So just your opinion! Great thanks. There’s one of you every year.

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

um bethpage coach u serious?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to clear up the “ignorance “comment. If you have 5 HS seniors committed to play D-1 lacrosse and can’t beat a team with none it speaks volumes about the program. Secondly, if a HS senior is using the “holdback” excuse he is destined for failure at the next level.

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

What facts are you basing this on? Because that sounds really ignorant. They should be D-1 commits but are going D-3? Seriously?

Yes, it happened to many 2021's this year. Did you pay attention to the recruiting class? I personally know kids who were talking to many mid majors, mine included. This year there were kids who took D2 and D3 offers instead of going to a low level D1.
Are you seriously going to say a kid who made All Long Island wouldn't get D1 offers if it wasn't for COVID? Garden City had 3 kids on All Long Island, 1 of them was first team. I also know for a fact that one of the Carey kids turned down several D1 offers to go to Pace. Get your head out of the turf if you haven't experienced it personally.

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.[/quote]

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

Just chose the college that is right for you.

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.[/quote]

A lot of 21s got those offers for a PG year. Let’s see if they honor those agreements. From what it looks like they have not based on the 22 commits. So your son made the right choice taking the offer he had and not waiting. Like many kids for 2021 my guy had offers early from top D1 programs. Like many with top D1 offers he chose a mid level D1 with great academics. If you son had visited top 10 D1 and met the coaches you know that those top ten school lacrosse kids have a different college life compared to the mid level D1. Top ten is all lacrosse life and that is It. They even recruit much different. Many don’t want that. So many 21s who could play for a top 10 chose to go to mid level D1 as they do every year which is not covid related. These players took up many mid level D1 spots. More so for 2021 since it was a very talented year and kids who would make D1 every other year did not make it this year. As a result of the great amount of talent for the 2021 year it was a challenging year all together to get a D1 offer but not covid related because none of the D1 programs let a kid go to a D2 or D3 school who they wanted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

A lot of 21s got those offers for a PG year. Let’s see if they honor those agreements. From what it looks like they have not based on the 22 commits. So your son made the right choice taking the offer he had and not waiting. Like many kids for 2021 my guy had offers early from top D1 programs. Like many with top D1 offers he chose a mid level D1 with great academics. If you son had visited top 10 D1 and met the coaches you know that those top ten school lacrosse kids have a different college life compared to the mid level D1. Top ten is all lacrosse life and that is It. They even recruit much different. Many don’t want that. So many 21s who could play for a top 10 chose to go to mid level D1 as they do every year which is not covid related. These players took up many mid level D1 spots. More so for 2021 since it was a very talented year and kids who would make D1 every other year did not make it this year. As a result of the great amount of talent for the 2021 year it was a challenging year all together to get a D1 offer but not covid related because none of the D1 programs let a kid go to a D2 or D3 school who they wanted.[/quote]

Please stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

Well some of you got the news you wanted - loud parents , over zealous school boards , soft administrators, —- I hope you are happy with the next one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

A lot of 21s got those offers for a PG year. Let’s see if they honor those agreements. From what it looks like they have not based on the 22 commits. So your son made the right choice taking the offer he had and not waiting. Like many kids for 2021 my guy had offers early from top D1 programs. Like many with top D1 offers he chose a mid level D1 with great academics. If you son had visited top 10 D1 and met the coaches you know that those top ten school lacrosse kids have a different college life compared to the mid level D1. Top ten is all lacrosse life and that is It. They even recruit much different. Many don’t want that. So many 21s who could play for a top 10 chose to go to mid level D1 as they do every year which is not covid related. These players took up many mid level D1 spots. More so for 2021 since it was a very talented year and kids who would make D1 every other year did not make it this year. As a result of the great amount of talent for the 2021 year it was a challenging year all together to get a D1 offer but not covid related because none of the D1 programs let a kid go to a D2 or D3 school who they wanted.

Please stop.[/quote]

It says that 2021 was a talented year and that is why it is a tough year to go to division one. It happens to be true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

another top school in the MCLA is Georgia Tech

Your kid can play college lacrosse on most college teams without buying into all the nonsense. There are about 25 D1 schools and 8 D3 schools that are highly selective and you'll need to spend a fortune on travel teams, all star games, prospect camps, etc. You'll need to stink up to your high school coach to make sure your kid makes all county, gets your kid's name in the local paper on a regular basis, etc. if you want a chance at those top schools. Outside of those 25 schools.....your kid can play 2-3 sports, have a social life, and just email and call the coach and work it out with the coach and your high school coach. "Recruiting" is a funny word in lacrosse. The parents spend a fortune in time and money to get their kid "recruited". Who is recruiting who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

another top school in the MCLA is Georgia Tech

How about commitments are getting scarcer and scarcer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

another top school in the MCLA is Georgia Tech

MCLA has excellent academics, but the lacrosse is not on par with NCAA. MCLA wouldn’t compete with D-3 programs.

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.[/quote]

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Your kid can play college lacrosse on most college teams without buying into all the nonsense. There are about 25 D1 schools and 8 D3 schools that are highly selective and you'll need to spend a fortune on travel teams, all star games, prospect camps, etc. You'll need to stink up to your high school coach to make sure your kid makes all county, gets your kid's name in the local paper on a regular basis, etc. if you want a chance at those top schools. Outside of those 25 schools.....your kid can play 2-3 sports, have a social life, and just email and call the coach and work it out with the coach and your high school coach. "Recruiting" is a funny word in lacrosse. The parents spend a fortune in time and money to get their kid "recruited". Who is recruiting who?

Complete gibberish.

Exactly, some of these HS coaches do nothing to help the kids get recruited. It’s sad that these coaches think about their standings before thinking about their kids. You can help your son get recruited without all the nonsense of traveling all over and playing on ridiculously over priced club teams. Not all of them help with recruiting. Start by emailing coaches that you think are a good fit for your son. Find out about the majors they offer. D1 sports are like a f/t job and your son may not see the field until they are a senior. Their are plenty of colleges that have good D2 and D3 teams with less time on the field and more time for school work. Remember, your so isn’t going to make a living playing MLL. Our kids are there to learn and move on in life. I think individual showcases are the best. Make a video and keep in contact with the interested coaches. It’s not hard, but you need to keep connected to these coaches and keep them updated on your sons status.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly, some of these HS coaches do nothing to help the kids get recruited. It’s sad that these coaches think about their standings before thinking about their kids. You can help your son get recruited without all the nonsense of traveling all over and playing on ridiculously over priced club teams. Not all of them help with recruiting. Start by emailing coaches that you think are a good fit for your son. Find out about the majors they offer. D1 sports are like a f/t job and your son may not see the field until they are a senior. Their are plenty of colleges that have good D2 and D3 teams with less time on the field and more time for school work. Remember, your so isn’t going to make a living playing MLL. Our kids are there to learn and move on in life. I think individual showcases are the best. Make a video and keep in contact with the interested coaches. It’s not hard, but you need to keep connected to these coaches and keep them updated on your sons status.

Agree 100%. College major before lacrosse. Unfortunately, many parents ill advise their kids, placing lax first to satisfy their ego.

My son's public high school team has no fewer than 3 kids that are "committed" to D3 schools to play lacrosse and these kids I'm referring to barely, if ever, got any playing time this past year as seniors. Let that sink in. They barely got playing time as HS seniors and they are "committed" to D3 schools to play lacrosse. The high school coach helped the parents connect with schools where they can play lacrosse and get a degree. These are good D3 schools. Its a beautiful thing. In the off-season these kids played on the HS team during off season games and tournaments. They got solid playing time in the off season. Travel teams are not mandatory to play college lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

Hearing Massapequa is now looking for a new coach as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly, some of these HS coaches do nothing to help the kids get recruited. It’s sad that these coaches think about their standings before thinking about their kids. You can help your son get recruited without all the nonsense of traveling all over and playing on ridiculously over priced club teams. Not all of them help with recruiting. Start by emailing coaches that you think are a good fit for your son. Find out about the majors they offer. D1 sports are like a f/t job and your son may not see the field until they are a senior. Their are plenty of colleges that have good D2 and D3 teams with less time on the field and more time for school work. Remember, your so isn’t going to make a living playing MLL. Our kids are there to learn and move on in life. I think individual showcases are the best. Make a video and keep in contact with the interested coaches. It’s not hard, but you need to keep connected to these coaches and keep them updated on your sons status.

So the HS coach shouldn’t be concerned with winning? He should be concerned with getting your kid recruited? Is that serious

How does the song go? Ding dong….

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Your kid can play college lacrosse on most college teams without buying into all the nonsense. There are about 25 D1 schools and 8 D3 schools that are highly selective and you'll need to spend a fortune on travel teams, all star games, prospect camps, etc. You'll need to stink up to your high school coach to make sure your kid makes all county, gets your kid's name in the local paper on a regular basis, etc. if you want a chance at those top schools. Outside of those 25 schools.....your kid can play 2-3 sports, have a social life, and just email and call the coach and work it out with the coach and your high school coach. "Recruiting" is a funny word in lacrosse. The parents spend a fortune in time and money to get their kid "recruited". Who is recruiting who?

Who is recruiting who...........this is so true!!!!!!! I also agree with everything you said

Yes, they should be concerned with winning, it’s part of their job, but helping with recruiting is something the HS coaches should be happy to help the kids out with. It only looks good for the school to have kids get recruited. And yes I’m serious!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, they should be concerned with winning, it’s part of their job, but helping with recruiting is something the HS coaches should be happy to help the kids out with. It only looks good for the school to have kids get recruited. And yes I’m serious!

You seem to lack knowledge on the subject. The coaches job is to win, not seek out opportunities for your son. If a program is interested in your son the coach of that school will call the HS coach who will give his assessment of your son, send some video and tell your son what’s next. That’s your “help”. Seriously hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard St Johns HS is looking for a new Varsity coach.

Hearing Massapequa is now looking for a new coach as well.

That’s a big job and should draw in a lot of interest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, they should be concerned with winning, it’s part of their job, but helping with recruiting is something the HS coaches should be happy to help the kids out with. It only looks good for the school to have kids get recruited. And yes I’m serious!

I just feel that the HS coaches, for the most part, a few exceptions. Don’t have the relationships that Express, 91 or Legacy has. Those clubs on LI seem to get the most recruits and I got to believe that is all relationship based. But that’s just my view.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.[/quote]

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, they should be concerned with winning, it’s part of their job, but helping with recruiting is something the HS coaches should be happy to help the kids out with. It only looks good for the school to have kids get recruited. And yes I’m serious!

You seem to lack knowledge on the subject. The coaches job is to win, not seek out opportunities for your son. If a program is interested in your son the coach of that school will call the HS coach who will give his assessment of your son, send some video and tell your son what’s next. That’s your “help”. Seriously hope this helps.

Part of a coach’s job is to develop young men. Helping them by reaching out to college coaches, who most have some kind of relationship with is a big part of it. Some take pride in getting their players into D1 programs. Others are more concerned with the players being matched up with a program they can succeed in. I’m My son is most of the help from his travel team coordinator and coaches than his HS coach, but they both were involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

another top school in the MCLA is Georgia Tech

MCLA has excellent academics, but the lacrosse is not on par with NCAA. MCLA wouldn’t compete with D-3 programs.

There's a HUGE quality range within D3 (and also MCLA).

The best D3 teams would compete with and beat the lower end of D1, while the bottom half or so would lose handily to good high school teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.[/quote]

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.[/quote]

IMO, and of most coaches I speak with, unless your son is a legit pro prospect, they should go to the school that is most aligned with his academic goals and is the most financially responsible. Now, will a Duke or ND business degree have more weight than somewhere else, maybe. Will the connections be better, possibly. I would rather my son get out of school with as little debt as possible. The D3 schools in his circle are like 60k+ a year, the D2 school is like 38k and can give lacrosse money, not much but every bit helps. Would a D1 school have his academic interests and lacrosse, sure, but he little to no chance of being on any of those programs. There is zero reason to play D1 lacrosse just to play D1 if it doesn't align academically.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.

IMO, and of most coaches I speak with, unless your son is a legit pro prospect, they should go to the school that is most aligned with his academic goals and is the most financially responsible. Now, will a Duke or ND business degree have more weight than somewhere else, maybe. Will the connections be better, possibly. I would rather my son get out of school with as little debt as possible. The D3 schools in his circle are like 60k+ a year, the D2 school is like 38k and can give lacrosse money, not much but every bit helps. Would a D1 school have his academic interests and lacrosse, sure, but he little to no chance of being on any of those programs. There is zero reason to play D1 lacrosse just to play D1 if it doesn't align academically.[/quote]

Please tell me you didn't reference Pro Lacrosse.

Heard same on Pequa. Wonder what happened?

So true. The math speaks for itself.

If you think the ND or Duke business degree "maybe" carries more weight than any D2 school, you clearly do not operate in the business world and are very misinformed and not providing your son with good advice. If you believe the connections from ND or Duke or insert any ivy school or UVA are only possibly deeper/better/insitutionalized as part of the program than ANY D2 school, again you missed the boat. Those schools provide HUGE advantages. Its up to your son once he gets there, but you are kidding yourself or did not really sit in on the recruiting visits if you missed that part of the pitch the coach no doubt was selling, with truth, ahead of said teams ability to compete for a national championship.

If it is about education first, D-2 schools shouldn't even be in the conversation. they lag behind the majority of SUNY schools in academic reputation. Additionally, most D-2 schools have price tags upwards of $60k. Again, your story sounds fishy.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

Below is cut and paste from the girls thread... a lot more opportunity out there for the girls / women but Lacrosse can help the boys as well.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.[/quote]

I have a daughter who is a 22 and she chose the exact same option - D2 vs D1. The school was a better academic fit, checked everything on her wish list and she will get to play all 4 years and have a run at a national championship. It’s a great school and I have no doubt she will stay and play all 4 years vs the D1 option where she probably wouldn’t have seen the field until the last 2 years if she even waited it out that long. She wants to play. And she will have a fun and enjoyable 4 years doing so. There is a real reason only 50% of D1 lacrosse athletes make it all 4 years. Especially when they see their counterparts who don’t have the D1 grind getting to enjoy all aspects of college life! And stating that choosing the D2 option “cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income” is laughable. Some of the most successful and wealthiest people I know didn’t play a D1 sport. And I know many adults who had very successful college lacrosse careers at top D1 programs.

The attached article and methodology were interesting and insightful, worth reading.

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If it is about education first, D-2 schools shouldn't even be in the conversation. they lag behind the majority of SUNY schools in academic reputation. Additionally, most D-2 schools have price tags upwards of $60k. Again, your story sounds fishy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you think the ND or Duke business degree "maybe" carries more weight than any D2 school, you clearly do not operate in the business world and are very misinformed and not providing your son with good advice. If you believe the connections from ND or Duke or insert any ivy school or UVA are only possibly deeper/better/insitutionalized as part of the program than ANY D2 school, again you missed the boat. Those schools provide HUGE advantages. Its up to your son once he gets there, but you are kidding yourself or did not really sit in on the recruiting visits if you missed that part of the pitch the coach no doubt was selling, with truth, ahead of said teams ability to compete for a national championship.

Having an older child who will be graduating from one of these listed “top academic schools” (NOT a student athlete) and having a rising HS senior who will be at a top D2 school and playing lacrosse, it came down to what was the best fit for EACH kid. I actually think my 2nd kid will have an equal opportunity for networking and post college success as my older child. It is all about relationships and making the best of your opportunities. And whether anyone wants to admit it, a lot comes down to the kid’s own work ethic and personality and who they and their family knows and has networking connections with. They will just need a single opportunity post graduation. Unless you are in medical school, work in higher education or want to work the C-suite corporate business life, it won’t really matter what university is listed on your resume. I’ve worked for a couple top Fortune 50 companies my entire career and my ability to make money and climb the ladder had more to do with my job performance and the network that I built than what college was listed on my resume. I went to a smaller state university in MD and have beaten out quite a few peers for promotions over the years from top academic institutions. And I know many others who have done the same!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.[/quote]

You're going to tell me that Binghamton and Stony Brook are better than Pace for a business degree? Binghamton maybe a little better, but no way is Stony Brook, they don't even have a business school. Any why go to Binghamton and not have a chance to win, when Pace makes the playoffs every year. Your post lacks one thing.. a clue.

IMO, and of most coaches I speak with, unless your son is a legit pro prospect, they should go to the school that is most aligned with his academic goals and is the most financially responsible. Now, will a Duke or ND business degree have more weight than somewhere else, maybe. Will the connections be better, possibly. I would rather my son get out of school with as little debt as possible. The D3 schools in his circle are like 60k+ a year, the D2 school is like 38k and can give lacrosse money, not much but every bit helps. Would a D1 school have his academic interests and lacrosse, sure, but he little to no chance of being on any of those programs. There is zero reason to play D1 lacrosse just to play D1 if it doesn't align academically.[/quote]

AMEN!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

I have a daughter who is a 22 and she chose the exact same option - D2 vs D1. The school was a better academic fit, checked everything on her wish list and she will get to play all 4 years and have a run at a national championship. It’s a great school and I have no doubt she will stay and play all 4 years vs the D1 option where she probably wouldn’t have seen the field until the last 2 years if she even waited it out that long. She wants to play. And she will have a fun and enjoyable 4 years doing so. There is a real reason only 50% of D1 lacrosse athletes make it all 4 years. Especially when they see their counterparts who don’t have the D1 grind getting to enjoy all aspects of college life! And stating that choosing the D2 option “cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income” is laughable. Some of the most successful and wealthiest people I know didn’t play a D1 sport. And I know many adults who had very successful college lacrosse careers at top D1 programs.[/quote]

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.

You're going to tell me that Binghamton and Stony Brook are better than Pace for a business degree? Binghamton maybe a little better, but no way is Stony Brook, they don't even have a business school. Any why go to Binghamton and not have a chance to win, when Pace makes the playoffs every year. Your post lacks one thing.. a clue.[/quote]

Keep patting yourself on the back. It’s not that good. Sorry

So a potential “top 10” d-1 prospect can’t catch the starting lineup at Binghamton. Sounds so legit.

Originally Posted by Colts21

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Colts21

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Pass up a $130000 scholarship to a top D2 school with one of the best internship programs in business for a maybe at a mid major and a $10000 maybe scholarship. You are the reason we have this forgive student debt talk from Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. It is about the education first and getting out without debt a close second.

What is a top d-2 school? Tops in lacrosse? Again, D-2 schools are okay academically, why not Binghampton or SB? Two top academic schools, and if your boy was being recruited to the UNC's and Dukes then his academics must be great. Those two SUNY schools are awesome, cheap and if he got even a little money it is still on par with whatever Private D-2 you chose. Your story lacks one thing...truthfulness.

You're going to tell me that Binghamton and Stony Brook are better than Pace for a business degree? Binghamton maybe a little better, but no way is Stony Brook, they don't even have a business school. Any why go to Binghamton and not have a chance to win, when Pace makes the playoffs every year. Your post lacks one thing.. a clue.[/quote]

Unless you go to a top school like the ones on the list that are being posted it does not matter which school one graduates from. It will fall on the individual. My business (we get hundreds of resumes a month) we would take a Stony Brook or Binghamton graduate over Pace for the simple reason that none are top schools and those state schools are much harder to get in and have better reputations. If a Pace kid does much better on an interview or has a much higher GPA and for other other reasons we would take the Pace candidate. But on paper Stony Brook and Binghamton are better. Stony Brook does have business major. We see that on resumes all the time. For d2 we respect Bentley. Great business program. That’s about it for d2.

I am not one for the rankings or acceptance rates however this is interesting. Niche ranked the top 1192 business programs. Pace was not in the top 1192 and both Stony Brook and Binghamton were. Bentley was number 40. Pace also had an 75 to 85% acceptance rate depending on the year. Stony Brook and Binghamton both under 50 percent acceptance rate. Like I said rankings and acceptance rate me nothing. There are some schools that have a high volume of low level applicants apply lowering acceptance rates. However when a school cannot make a list of 1192 Schools ranked and carries an 85% acceptance rate it is hard to argue that that school is elite and should be taken over a school such as Duke, University of Virginia or even Stony Brook/Binghamton. All those schools easily made the top 1192.

Pace is an average school. It gets high marks for diversity, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren would love the school. I sincerely hope your son enjoys his four years there and doesn’t have any regrets.

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

US news uses a point system in rankings. Look at the criteria and how many points are awarded for each category. US news gives a a high percentage of points for diversity. They really don’t consider student outcome, job placement or earning ability after graduation. The diverse schools such as Pace do very well. The Grade Point Average for accepted students at Pace is 3.4 and average SAT is 1140. Stony Brook average SAT is 1310 and Grade point average is 3.84. Binghamton average SAT is 1375 and gpa is 3.7. Other schools that were compared on this thread to Pace were the University of Virginia average GPA 4.32 out of 4.0 and average SAT1430. Duke average GPA 4.13 and average SAT is a 1510. Remember state schools such as Binghamton, Stony Brook and Virginia must take a certain percentage of in-state applicants so their averages for SAT and grade point average will be lower than private schools. Trying to compare Pace to Virginia and Duke is absurd. Pace does not even stack up against Binghamton and stony Brook. Nothing against Pace but you should not try and make it something it is not. It is an average school at best and cannot compare to a decent business program.
Good luck to your son as I do believe that going to a better school only opens the first door. After somebody gets their first job and in the workforce for a few years it does not matter where they went unless they attend the best of the best such as Virginia, Duke and other like schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Top 10 recruit and didn’t consider Albany? Curious why not? Stony Brook has a business school as well. Pace is average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Please take this juvenile pissing was somewhere else. No gives an eff where your kid goes to college and you certainly don’t need to defend his choice on this forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Which I think means it is tied with all the average schools. I guess the Pace dad was not confident with the real stats. It is actually a big difference being ranked number 110 through 143 compared to number 110 standing alone. Pace cannot separate themselves from 33 other schools. This also proves everyone’s point that Stony Brook and Binghamton are much better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

WRONG!!! I hope you did not advise your son to pick Pace based on this ranking. This ranking does not rank the Pace undergraduate business school. It ranks only full time MBA Programs. On this list you refer to the Pace MBA program is not 110 but it is tied for 110-143. So you got that wrong too. Stoneybrook is not on that list because they do not have a full-time MBA program for business. I also hope you know that just because you go Pace undergraduate, which is not in the top 1192 undergraduate business programs according to niche, you do not automatically get into the MBA program unless you are specifically accepted for some type of five-year program. Maybe you should stop advising your son because you are obviously Interpreting data on emotion and wanting to see what you want to see to make Pace a high-level school when it is not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Please take this juvenile pissing was somewhere else. No gives an eff where your kid goes to college and you certainly don’t need to defend his choice on this forum.

Let alone anyone's kid in general.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US News Business school rankings. Pace 110, Binghamton 84. Stony Brook doesn’t have a business school.

Actually it’s 110-143. Accuracy counts

Please take this juvenile pissing was somewhere else. No gives an eff where your kid goes to college and you certainly don’t need to defend his choice on this forum.

If you don’t want juvenile banter you may want to go elsewhere.

If your son enrolled in Pace because of the mistaken belief that U.S. News & World Reports ranked Pace undergraduate Business School 110-142 (tie) you may want to rethink this. The posters are correct. The ranking is for the MBA program not the undergraduate program. If you don't believe it you should go back to the ranking and confirm this. It is obvious. Go to the ranking list link. It states the ranking list is for full time MBA programs in the United States. Other things that make it obvious is the cost of attendance of $80,000. If this were a four year school the cost would be only $20k a year. Also the number of applicants was 337 applied and 310 accepted and 112 enrolled. This is way too small for a class size of undergraduate business majors for a school like Pace. If you are wondering if Pace MBA Business program is good please look at this same ranking. Pace MBA has a class size of about 140 students per the ranking. The graduating class on average is 112 enrolled plus international students. Upon graduation only 55 percent were employed. That is awful for a masters program and to only get 70 students a job for such a small MBA program it must make you wonder if they can get the undergraduate business major students jobs. This is especially so when the undergraduate program is not ranked in the top 1192 per the Niche ranking. If your son really was a top 10 D1 recruit you may want to look at Binghamton or Stony Brook who BOTH DO HAVE UNDERGRATUATE BUSINESS MAJOR DEGREES offered and are much better than Pace according to the rankings.

Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

I think the Pace guy is a troll stirring the pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

I think the Pace guy is a troll stirring the pot.

I completely agree! Y’all fell for it AND are STILL talking about it! 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

I think the Pace guy is a troll stirring the pot.

He is real. Not a troll. I will give you this. I think he truly believed that Pace was a top business program and he did read the ranking wrong. His post started very arrogant then he got silent. He learned from these posts that Pace is not a great school and actually below average. That is what turned him to become quiet. This is a good thing. Hope he takes this new found information that Pace is not a top business school and gives his son better advice in the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

I think the Pace guy is a troll stirring the pot.

He is real. Not a troll. I will give you this. I think he truly believed that Pace was a top business program and he did read the ranking wrong. His post started very arrogant then he got silent. He learned from these posts that Pace is not a great school and actually below average. That is what turned him to become quiet. This is a good thing. Hope he takes this new found information that Pace is not a top business school and gives his son better advice in the future.

The above post(s) is a perfect example of why 'lax parents" are Godforsaken pitiful!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Where was it said that the Pace kid was a top 10 recruit? Mid majors is what was claimed, never top 10[/quote

Read it again, the kid was being looked at by Top 10 programs but they wanted a PG year. If the kid is being looked at by Duke, UNC, Maryland and ND then Albany, Binghamton and Stony Brook would be desperate to get him without the PG year. The Pace dad made the claim. Also wrote that Pace has a better business program than Binghamton and Stony Brook and that they are 110. Lots of misstated facts in the story. Either the kid is an awesome lacrosse player or he’s pretty good. But to go from potentially Norte Dame to Pace is just crazy.

Pace dad is a special type of person. We are still trying to figure out if he is just a liar trying to make himself feel better because his kid ended up at an average to below average academic and lacrosse school or he is not in reality and really thinks Pace is a top academic and lacrosse school. Either way it is not good for his son who is getting bad advice from his dad.

Just hope Pace son has a good experience, both academically and with lacrosse. I think he’ll regret not doing the PG year and going to Duke, UNC or ND.

I think the Pace guy is a troll stirring the pot.

He is real. Not a troll. I will give you this. I think he truly believed that Pace was a top business program and he did read the ranking wrong. His post started very arrogant then he got silent. He learned from these posts that Pace is not a great school and actually below average. That is what turned him to become quiet. This is a good thing. Hope he takes this new found information that Pace is not a top business school and gives his son better advice in the future.

The above post(s) is a perfect example of why 'lax parents" are Godforsaken pitiful!

And yet....here you are, a "lax parent"

Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools.

Agreed. But to be that good where top 10 schools wants you and go to Pace is questionable. Many other options which are less expensive and better college programs for academics and lacrosse for a kid that good. People know it is not true and he is being called out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools.

Agreed. But to be that good where top 10 schools wants you and go to Pace is questionable. Many other options which are less expensive and better college programs for academics and lacrosse for a kid that good. People know it is not true and he is being called out.

I don't think you get it, WHO CARES!

Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks

Both, I emailed 2 of the schools my kid is looking into. The coach specified the tournament and the particular games my son was seen.

[quote=Anonymous]Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks[/q

For the most part, they are mass-emailing. However, if your son has been at showcases that the coach was at, then it could be a target. When they target a kid, they will most often mention where they saw them and give some details to what they liked about him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools.

Agreed. But to be that good where top 10 schools wants you and go to Pace is questionable. Many other options which are less expensive and better college programs for academics and lacrosse for a kid that good. People know it is not true and he is being called out.

I don't think you get it, WHO CARES!

You do. You took the time to respond.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks[/q

For the most part, they are mass-emailing. However, if your son has been at showcases that the coach was at, then it could be a target. When they target a kid, they will most often mention where they saw them and give some details to what they liked about him.

You can usually tell if it is an actual "Recruiting Letter", they are more personal. I would suggest asking your Club or HS coach to reach out to the coaching staff to see if there is true interest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools.

Agreed. But to be that good where top 10 schools wants you and go to Pace is questionable. Many other options which are less expensive and better college programs for academics and lacrosse for a kid that good. People know it is not true and he is being called out.

I don't think you get it, WHO CARES!

You do. You took the time to respond.

You are correct. He cares quite a bit it seems.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks[/q

For the most part, they are mass-emailing. However, if your son has been at showcases that the coach was at, then it could be a target. When they target a kid, they will most often mention where they saw them and give some details to what they liked about him.

My older son would get those personal emails saying that he was seen at specific games at specific times and even say what they saw him do that they liked. Unfortunately he happened to miss some of those tournaments they claim to have seen him even though his club team was there. So he was not there and they said they saw him. Generally, many of them are mass emails. If they have the coaches phone number with the cell phone number it usually means that it is a more specific email but still a mass email. Like someone else had said have one of the coaches from your sons team reach out to the coach of the schools he is interested in. College coaches will also contact club and high school coaches on their own before September 1 The funny thing is my son ended up committing to a school that never sent him an invite to a prospect camp and never contacted his coach before September 1. However they did call September 1. So you never know. Don’t give up on a school just because you’re not getting the mass emails and don’t assume you’re on a list just because you were getting those emails.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Question here regarding a 10th going into 11th grader. The emails we get from schools/coaches, these are just mass-email type things right? Regarding prospect days. Or are they targeting individual kids? Some are addressed to his name, some aren’t. I’m assuming it’s going out to hundreds etc. thanks[/q

For the most part, they are mass-emailing. However, if your son has been at showcases that the coach was at, then it could be a target. When they target a kid, they will most often mention where they saw them and give some details to what they liked about him.

My older son would get those personal emails saying that he was seen at specific games at specific times and even say what they saw him do that they liked. Unfortunately he happened to miss some of those tournaments they claim to have seen him even though his club team was there. So he was not there and they said they saw him. Generally, many of them are mass emails. If they have the coaches phone number with the cell phone number it usually means that it is a more specific email but still a mass email. Like someone else had said have one of the coaches from your sons team reach out to the coach of the schools he is interested in. College coaches will also contact club and high school coaches on their own before September 1 The funny thing is my son ended up committing to a school that never sent him an invite to a prospect camp and never contacted his coach before September 1. However they did call September 1. So you never know. Don’t give up on a school just because you’re not getting the mass emails and don’t assume you’re on a list just because you were getting those emails.

Thank to all that replied

The NY State Regional Championship is charging $499/player plus cost of hotel which is around another $450. This includes 5 games, some practices, uniform and an Epoch shaft. Is this event really worth close to $1000 before travel, meals etc.? Is the exposure to college coaches that great, especially for a 10th grader? Anyone have experience participating in the past?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The NY State Regional Championship is charging $499/player plus cost of hotel which is around another $450. This includes 5 games, some practices, uniform and an Epoch shaft. Is this event really worth close to $1000 before travel, meals etc.? Is the exposure to college coaches that great, especially for a 10th grader? Anyone have experience participating in the past?

historically there have been more coaches at the top 50 and nassau vs suffolk games than the actual tournament upstate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The NY State Regional Championship is charging $499/player plus cost of hotel which is around another $450. This includes 5 games, some practices, uniform and an Epoch shaft. Is this event really worth close to $1000 before travel, meals etc.? Is the exposure to college coaches that great, especially for a 10th grader? Anyone have experience participating in the past?

My son is a 2021. The top 50 game had every d1 coach watching that game. When we went to the championship event in Binghamton we were disappointed on the number of coaches who attended. The good news is the coaches who do attend focus on the Nassau and Suffolk teams and every coach watched the Nassau vs Suffolk games. However it was not close to the number of coaches who attended the top 50 game on Long Island. After the first time we went we never went back to Binghamton even though my son made the team. My son would play in the top 50 game and then decline the invitation to Binghamton. My son was heavily recruited and on college visits we would ask the coaches what events he was seen at. Many said the top 50 game but none said Binghamton. My advice is to see if there is a better showcase. If not you should attend if there are no better options. . We did not attend after the first one because we felt there were better options. Find out which coaches are attending and that should guide you. If there is a good number of coaches at schools that you would be interested and no better option your son should attend.

It’s $1000, but I must say it was one of the most fun and memorable experiences I had with my son. Not everything has to be about recruitment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s $1000, but I must say it was one of the most fun and memorable experiences I had with my son. Not everything has to be about recruitment.

If money and time is unlimited it is worth it so long as there is no loss of opportunity from missing another recruiting event held at the same time. Unfortunately some have limited time off work and limited funds available to be spent for several recruiting events. Also even when money is not an issue your time should be spent at the best recruiting events. You can have the same fun there too. If there are better recruiting events go to the better event. If money and time off work is an issue it is fine to skip this one. It is not like Maverik Showtime that if invited you go no matter what. At best it is an average event. The coaches already saw who they wanted to see at the top 50 game and will find those they like at another event.

Some players went to tryouts (some didn't) just to play in Nassau/ Suffolk game. Now they are scrambling to get players for the regionals upstate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some players went to tryouts (some didn't) just to play in Nassau/ Suffolk game. Now they are scrambling to get players for the regionals upstate.

Same thing every year.

Is Zummo putting in for the Massapequa job ?

Would be great if TZ does

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Zummo putting in for the Massapequa job ?

Is Radomski out?

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Maybe they want someone with lacrosse knowledge and not just a gym teacher

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Yes, some districts parents and believe it or not grandparents have a ridiculous amount of sway on what happens with the sports teams. I do not know what happened in this case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Maybe they want someone with lacrosse knowledge and not just a gym teacher

Yeah, he was just a gym teacher! What a misguided statement.

"Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools."

The elite NE PG Schools are so well endowed. $65K published tuition. Financial aid is need based. If you make less than $150k and they want your son, the tuition is on a sliding scale and is also negotiable. 150=25, 125=20, 100=15. That was my conversation and another elite (think '80's drug scandal) school asked for last look to beat rival rate.

Same thing exists at ALL the ivy's. Not scholarships, but need based, based on your earnings. These are FACTS.

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Ever think that maybe paying for a PG year and then paying for a top school is just not possible without loans? Not sure about you but I’m not advising my kid to take on all that debt just to go to a named school. Plenty of successful people don’t go IVY or name brand schools."

The elite NE PG Schools are so well endowed. $65K published tuition. Financial aid is need based. If you make less than $150k and they want your son, the tuition is on a sliding scale and is also negotiable. 150=25, 125=20, 100=15. That was my conversation and another elite (think '80's drug scandal) school asked for last look to beat rival rate.

Same thing exists at ALL the ivy's. Not scholarships, but need based, based on your earnings. These are FACTS.

Information is critical. Make sure that you investigate every opportunity, ask the right questions and get factual accurate answers.

If $$ is a major concern there is a very good chance that both Prep school and the Ivy’s would be very affordable.

Do not shy away or advise you children until you have the facts about actual “net cost”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

Entitled BRATS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

“Atrocity” ? Really? You should get help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

“Atrocity” ? Really? You should get help.

Is this a HS thread or little kid club nonsense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

“Atrocity” ? Really? You should get help.

Is this a HS thread or little kid club nonsense?

My bad. I didn't realize fighting and bad sportsmanship only pertained to the little kid club table. For some reason I thought it was about the game itself, one for all ages and demographics to enjoy. I'll remember next time, despite the majority of us on LI who prefer to honor the game at all levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where the video of the Bandits vs. Shore 2 Shore OGs brawl at NLF can be found?

No, but I’d love to see that! Bandits being sore losers?

If true, way to represent LI, especially after LI Express atrocity at WSYL that gained national attention. Sad.

“Atrocity” ? Really? You should get help.

Is this a HS thread or little kid club nonsense?

My bad. I didn't realize fighting and bad sportsmanship only pertained to the little kid club table. For some reason I thought it was about the game itself, one for all ages and demographics to enjoy. I'll remember next time, despite the majority of us on LI who prefer to honor the game at all levels.

Thanks social justice warrior! You sure you can get enough air on that high pulpit you put yourself on? As Sgt Hulka said”lighten up Francis”

Was there really a fight between the 2 clubs ?

Bandits have always been the worst with attitudes. It all starts from the home to the coach.

Team 91 '25 Shock also got in fistfights in NLF. Out of control and embarrassing to witness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Maybe they want someone with lacrosse knowledge and not just a gym teacher

Yeah, he was just a gym teacher! What a misguided statement.

I wish our gym teacher can bring us 2 state titles.

May be the new AD wants a new face of the program ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May be the new AD wants a new face of the program ?

Thats BS....why would you need a new face for a program that has been extremely successful under his tutelage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Maybe they want someone with lacrosse knowledge and not just a gym teacher

Yeah, he was just a gym teacher! What a misguided statement.

I wish our gym teacher can bring us 2 state titles.

Then maybe you should make sure the youth coaches know what they are talking about before they hand the players off to the gym teacher

US Lacrosse awards posted. What an absolute joke. Not one kid outside of the big programs acknowledged. I know for a fact my son was nominated for All Academic, 98+ GPA ,one of the top academic schools in NY yet doesn't get recognized. Typical boys club network won't even look at small programs. Coach of the Year, Garden City, come on. Try coaching a group of less than 20 kids, many never playing before HS and making playoffs. Do that, than maybe I'll give you credit. Bad job Section 8

US Lacrosse awards
https://www.usalacrosse.com/news-media-blog/2021-usa-lacrosse-boys-high-school-awards

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is out. 2 state championships in 7 years and they let him go, ridiculous .. Parents of players that didn't play did some railroad job. The Town is soft, too many people that never were successful in sports trying to live through their kids.

Has to be something else going on there. One poor season and he's out? Parents have that much sway in the hiring and firing of personnel?

Maybe they want someone with lacrosse knowledge and not just a gym teacher

Yeah, he was just a gym teacher! What a misguided statement.

I wish our gym teacher can bring us 2 state titles.

Then maybe you should make sure the youth coaches know what they are talking about before they hand the players off to the gym teacher

What in the world are you referencing? Your comment is senseless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse awards posted. What an absolute joke. Not one kid outside of the big programs acknowledged. I know for a fact my son was nominated for All Academic, 98+ GPA ,one of the top academic schools in NY yet doesn't get recognized. Typical boys club network won't even look at small programs. Coach of the Year, Garden City, come on. Try coaching a group of less than 20 kids, many never playing before HS and making playoffs. Do that, than maybe I'll give you credit. Bad job Section 8

Is your kid as good at lacrosse as he is at school? Kind of disingenuous to say it’s a joke because your son didn’t get rewarded.

I’m thinking 2022 high school season. Would love to know what people are thinking for top 10 teams on the island for Spring 2022.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US Lacrosse awards
https://www.usalacrosse.com/news-media-blog/2021-usa-lacrosse-boys-high-school-awards

How is it that not all counties submitted yet? It's July. ADs/Coaches let news out in Suffolk. Why is SectionXI not listed?

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

since js got involved UA is not what it used to be

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

Everybody knows that these awards and list are politically driven. Having said that most of the kids on the list deserve it. Of course there are another 25 kids who are better players and should have made it. The difference between those who made the list and those who should have made the list is so small that of course the kids from the better programs will make it. That is just the way it is. Unfortunately there are not enough spots to award every deserving kid. When it is all said and done it does not matter. The kids that deserve to be on the list that did not make it will have great college careers just as those who made the list. Trust me it seems like a big deal now but in another year it is not going to matter at all.

Just a thought .

Are you talking about the 22/23 UA team or the 24 Command Legacy/UA team? Have 12-13 from the program. Joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you talking about the 22/23 UA team or the 24 Command Legacy/UA team? Have 12-13 from the program. Joke.

Know what you mean but the numbers aren’t that far fetched. Very few Wolfpack tried out. Taz has about 8 legit Allstars. With few 91 kids trying out, then that 8 kids legitimately becomes 10-12 kids. Throw in the top 5 express kids and that leaves maybe room for 3-4 kids from other misc teams. Makes sense to me.

the 22/23 team is a lot different than I would have imagined. A lot of top level players missing and some questionable choices to say the least.

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

based on your answer I am going to guess you are around 14-15 years old and feel slighted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

based on your answer I am going to guess you are around 14-15 years old and feel slighted.

Lol, no. Now let me guess. Based on your remark, you are a dad who's kid always gets picked for things he doesn't deserve because of your connections. Can't wait to see him flop on his face in college when nobody cares who his daddy is!

All of the big 3 clubs on LI have 8 legit Allstars. 12-13 players from both of their 2 teams is ridiculous. Period. That is why UA is not the event it used to be. Just another overpriced event that has become political. That’s why only under 50 kids tried out across 3 tryout teams and they had to call kids to come down because they were short. Quality of kids were good as a group but not the numbers given people know it’s political and has lost its luster over the years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

based on your answer I am going to guess you are around 14-15 years old and feel slighted.

Lol, no. Now let me guess. Based on your remark, you are a dad who's kid always gets picked for things he doesn't deserve because of your connections. Can't wait to see him flop on his face in college when nobody cares who his daddy is!

Wishful thinking. Keep believing your lad was snubbed. Truth is….just not that good.LOL

my son didn't bother to try out. JS coaching and his kid in the same position.. no need to waste my money.. Not saying my son is better than his, just that there was zero chance...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess it helps to have your dad be the coach for getting onto the UA team. The shame is that not all 3 were deserving of a roster spot. Spots were taken from more deserving kids.

Like your kid? Give me abreak.

Like at least 10+ were clearly better. You know it! Was more than obvious

based on your answer I am going to guess you are around 14-15 years old and feel slighted.

Lol, no. Now let me guess. Based on your remark, you are a dad who's kid always gets picked for things he doesn't deserve because of your connections. Can't wait to see him flop on his face in college when nobody cares who his daddy is!

Wishful thinking. Keep believing your lad was snubbed. Truth is….just not that good.LOL

LOL, You are a funny one! Hope your son isn't as bad at lacrosse as you are at humor. You can't actually believe that all three of the coaches sons were good enough to make that team over other! KoolAid drinker!

Parents have smartened up when it comes to LI UA. Less than 80 kids showed up because they know the favoritism waters down the team year after year. The team is never successful because the coaches pick favors based on coaches high school and club affiliates. This years roster is no different and the results will reflect it.

LOL, you should let daddy’s little prince down easy, let him know now that he’s an average to below average player, he’s in for a whole bunch of heartbreak once daddy isn’t there to pay him on the bottom and tell him how he got snubbed!! LOL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL, you should let daddy’s little prince down easy, let him know now that he’s an average to below average player, he’s in for a whole bunch of heartbreak once daddy isn’t there to pay him on the bottom and tell him how he got snubbed!! LOL!

Ummm… the other two?? Sad to live in your brother’s shadow, especially when dad enables it. Taking spots from better qualified players and setting the kids up for mental issues

JS is the king of gaming events like this and other showcases. It is so cringeworthy that he can’t go to any of these things (showcases/UA,etc) and not coach his sons’ teams. And then jam them on the “all star” teams for the events ... when they are often just average/invisible out there (except that JS makes sure they are always on the field).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL, you should let daddy’s little prince down easy, let him know now that he’s an average to below average player, he’s in for a whole bunch of heartbreak once daddy isn’t there to pay him on the bottom and tell him how he got snubbed!! LOL!

Ummm… the other two?? Sad to live in your brother’s shadow, especially when dad enables it. Taking spots from better qualified players and setting the kids up for mental issues

You don’t really think I’m a coach addressing you on here do you? Dude, accept your kids limitations, stop thinking everything is everyone else’s fault. Helicopter parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL, you should let daddy’s little prince down easy, let him know now that he’s an average to below average player, he’s in for a whole bunch of heartbreak once daddy isn’t there to pay him on the bottom and tell him how he got snubbed!! LOL!

Ummm… the other two?? Sad to live in your brother’s shadow, especially when dad enables it. Taking spots from better qualified players and setting the kids up for mental issues

You don’t really think I’m a coach addressing you on here do you? Dude, accept your kids limitations, stop thinking everything is everyone else’s fault. Helicopter parent.

Easy dude, my kid made the team…and I want them to win. Some great kids were chosen, including my son. Others I have to smh

They need to take travel coaches out of the evaluation process. Players know going in that there chances are slim to none if coaches like JS are involved. Not disparaging his coaching at all, but teams tend to be chosen ahead of time ( think warrior games a couple of years ago). My son was on that team and as parents going in, we knew our kids would make the team. Why do you think less and less players try out for events like Under Armor every year. They have become a waste of time and money. Evaluations should be made by a group of Long Island HS coaches rotating every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They need to take travel coaches out of the evaluation process. Players know going in that there chances are slim to none if coaches like JS are involved. Not disparaging his coaching at all, but teams tend to be chosen ahead of time ( think warrior games a couple of years ago). My son was on that team and as parents going in, we knew our kids would make the team. Why do you think less and less players try out for events like Under Armor every year. They have become a waste of time and money. Evaluations should be made by a group of Long Island HS coaches rotating every year.

It was a buy one get two free sale for him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They need to take travel coaches out of the evaluation process. Players know going in that there chances are slim to none if coaches like JS are involved. Not disparaging his coaching at all, but teams tend to be chosen ahead of time ( think warrior games a couple of years ago). My son was on that team and as parents going in, we knew our kids would make the team. Why do you think less and less players try out for events like Under Armor every year. They have become a waste of time and money. Evaluations should be made by a group of Long Island HS coaches rotating every year.

Yeah, let the HS coaches handle it.... because they have proven that they are above reproach... give me a break, many of the HS coaches have their own agenda and not all are good coaches. The reality is that it’s hard to find evaluators who have no bias or preconceived opinions/notions. That said, there should not be parents of players who are trying out involved in any aspect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL, you should let daddy’s little prince down easy, let him know now that he’s an average to below average player, he’s in for a whole bunch of heartbreak once daddy isn’t there to pay him on the bottom and tell him how he got snubbed!! LOL!

Ummm… the other two?? Sad to live in your brother’s shadow, especially when dad enables it. Taking spots from better qualified players and setting the kids up for mental issues

You don’t really think I’m a coach addressing you on here do you? Dude, accept your kids limitations, stop thinking everything is everyone else’s fault. Helicopter parent.

Easy dude, my kid made the team…and I want them to win. Some great kids were chosen, including my son. Others I have to smh

Yet you assume it's the coach addressing you on BOTC. How narcissistic can someone be? Good to know your son is "great", why don't you give us some more information and we will be the judge of that. This isn't daddy ball, daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

Can you actually show some facts to back up your comment, or is this your opinion?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

Just look at the schools on the Nassau USA AA list, deserving maybe, political absolutely. If you're not at one of those 5 schools you'll never get a nomination

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

We will have to agree to disagree. No payola going on like UA and others especially when dealing with public school. Private/parochial, maybe. Public no.

I find it hard to believe one family and varsity head coach can politically play the minds of 16+ very different public school coaches across leagues in either Nassau or Suffolk. Especially with the diversity of 'upper and lower class' areas, or the 'us vs them', 'have vs have not' mentality of those districts. THEN, that repeating 16x (since eight are represented in each county). No way. Plus, all of this done within a nomination and voting time frame on a single night coaches meet to get all awards, local and national, selected? No way.

I'm pretty sure there is a committee, but it oversees the final tally ONLY AFTER nominations and votes are done by ALL the coaches in each league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

Just look at the schools on the Nassau USA AA list, deserving maybe, political absolutely. If you're not at one of those 5 schools you'll never get a nomination

So the best kids don't play on the best teams? Again, to state it's political with no facts to back it up is just silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

We will have to agree to disagree. No payola going on like UA and others especially when dealing with public school. Private/parochial, maybe. Public no.

I find it hard to believe one family and varsity head coach can politically play the minds of 16+ very different public school coaches across leagues in either Nassau or Suffolk. Especially with the diversity of 'upper and lower class' areas, or the 'us vs them', 'have vs have not' mentality of those districts. THEN, that repeating 16x (since eight are represented in each county). No way. Plus, all of this done within a nomination and voting time frame on a single night coaches meet to get all awards, local and national, selected? No way.

I'm pretty sure there is a committee, but it oversees the final tally ONLY AFTER nominations and votes are done by ALL the coaches in each league.

You are out of touch and have no knowledge of history.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

We will have to agree to disagree. No payola going on like UA and others especially when dealing with public school. Private/parochial, maybe. Public no.

I find it hard to believe one family and varsity head coach can politically play the minds of 16+ very different public school coaches across leagues in either Nassau or Suffolk. Especially with the diversity of 'upper and lower class' areas, or the 'us vs them', 'have vs have not' mentality of those districts. THEN, that repeating 16x (since eight are represented in each county). No way. Plus, all of this done within a nomination and voting time frame on a single night coaches meet to get all awards, local and national, selected? No way.

I'm pretty sure there is a committee, but it oversees the final tally ONLY AFTER nominations and votes are done by ALL the coaches in each league.

Under Armour Senior All-American has been the benchmark for a long time, US Lacrosse not so much...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

We will have to agree to disagree. No payola going on like UA and others especially when dealing with public school. Private/parochial, maybe. Public no.

I find it hard to believe one family and varsity head coach can politically play the minds of 16+ very different public school coaches across leagues in either Nassau or Suffolk. Especially with the diversity of 'upper and lower class' areas, or the 'us vs them', 'have vs have not' mentality of those districts. THEN, that repeating 16x (since eight are represented in each county). No way. Plus, all of this done within a nomination and voting time frame on a single night coaches meet to get all awards, local and national, selected? No way.

I'm pretty sure there is a committee, but it oversees the final tally ONLY AFTER nominations and votes are done by ALL the coaches in each league.

You are out of touch and have no knowledge of history.

And you make baseless statements with no basis in fact. You have no knowledge at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

USA awards are kind of silly. It's basically 25 different all region/sub region awards. I don't know how many of the 50+ "All Americans" from Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio would even start at your average LI high school.

It's "USA"...covers the nation, the best players in the nation in each area voted on by the regional coaching staff. Doesn't matter about how'd they compete vs other regions. It's the most legit selection. You'd rather have a payola, politics, parent, crony system like Nike/UA/Warrior or other tournament run by a travel club?

Actually, The USA Lacrosse All-American selection process for Nassau and Suffolk have traditionally been the most political of all of the awards. Unless they have changed the process in the past year or so the selections have in the past been very political. Players who have been named All-American in the past for the most part have always been excellent players but the process has been very political and there have been many players left out simply because they did not have an advocate (coach) on the selection "committee".

We will have to agree to disagree. No payola going on like UA and others especially when dealing with public school. Private/parochial, maybe. Public no.

I find it hard to believe one family and varsity head coach can politically play the minds of 16+ very different public school coaches across leagues in either Nassau or Suffolk. Especially with the diversity of 'upper and lower class' areas, or the 'us vs them', 'have vs have not' mentality of those districts. THEN, that repeating 16x (since eight are represented in each county). No way. Plus, all of this done within a nomination and voting time frame on a single night coaches meet to get all awards, local and national, selected? No way.

I'm pretty sure there is a committee, but it oversees the final tally ONLY AFTER nominations and votes are done by ALL the coaches in each league.

You are out of touch and have no knowledge of history.

And you make baseless statements with no basis in fact. You have no knowledge at all.

Here's for the poster who claims to have the knowledge of political lacrosse history...I'm sure you'll tell us all the political loopholes after you see the powerpoint presentation from USL. And then opine on exactly how the coaches do it 'for real', with all the time they have with an already low pay scale, and volunteer hours they want to put in playing politics to earn those extra bucks.

https://www.usalacrosse.com/sites/default/files/documents/Games/2021-HS-%20Awards-coaches-info.pptx

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Amen. It also happens in college. Look at the AA list and then look at their Stats. Many are pushed through as seniors with lackluster seasons when others clearly out performed them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

This brings to mind the millennial generation disposition, when many believed employers would be begging them to come work for their company after college but couldn’t understand why that didn’t happen and why they didn’t get the big paying jobs and worse even they often turned down the good entry level positions to get their foot in the door.

The kid and parents need to equally work hard on and off the field to get recruited, advocating on their own behalf. Don’t expect anyone to come chase you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Amen. It also happens in college. Look at the AA list and then look at their Stats. Many are pushed through as seniors with lackluster seasons when others clearly out performed them.

Statistics in lacrosse are one of the most overrated tools of competence on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Amen. It also happens in college. Look at the AA list and then look at their Stats. Many are pushed through as seniors with lackluster seasons when others clearly out performed them.

Statistics in lacrosse are one of the most overrated tools of competence on the field.

Like it or not, they absolutely should matter, just like in the work place…but there are always a few that slip through due to politics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Amen. It also happens in college. Look at the AA list and then look at their Stats. Many are pushed through as seniors with lackluster seasons when others clearly out performed them.

Statistics in lacrosse are one of the most overrated tools of competence on the field.

TRUTH

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

HS player Evaluating 101: Look for the best athletes first and best lacrosse players second. Ideally, those who are always ahead of the ball in transition. Has vision, explosive quickness and stick skills on offense, and are aggressive, Quick and always communicating on defense. The best players on the field always standout even if the stat sheet shows otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS player Evaluating 101: Look for the best athletes first and best lacrosse players second. Ideally, those who are always ahead of the ball in transition. Has vision, explosive quickness and stick skills on offense, and are aggressive, Quick and always communicating on defense. The best players on the field always standout even if the stat sheet shows otherwise.

exactly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS player Evaluating 101: Look for the best athletes first and best lacrosse players second. Ideally, those who are always ahead of the ball in transition. Has vision, explosive quickness and stick skills on offense, and are aggressive, Quick and always communicating on defense. The best players on the field always standout even if the stat sheet shows otherwise.

exactly

True but that assumes the evaluators are good and not biased tho

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

More excuses, just add it to holdbacks and politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

when you keep your stud in during a blowout win so he can get double digit assists instead of giving bench players time is padding without "faking" not that that ever happens... yeah right.. our coach plays the bench in those games.. give the kids that show up every day and stand a cheer most games time to play.. thats good coaching..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

Talking to my sons club coach and referenced BOTC once to him and he laughed. I asked what’s so funny and he said “think about it, 99% of the people that post on there have kids that are not good enough and that is the place they can go and blame everyone and anything besides themselves. That completely changed how I view this sewage. That said I do still like to read up with the insanity

LI won the command division at UA last year
LI has been terrible in the highlight division the past 5 years this age group can never get all the top kids in that age group to participate I think this tournament needs to be moved to fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

Talking to my sons club coach and referenced BOTC once to him and he laughed. I asked what’s so funny and he said “think about it, 99% of the people that post on there have kids that are not good enough and that is the place they can go and blame everyone and anything besides themselves. That completely changed how I view this sewage. That said I do still like to read up with the insanity

99 percent? What study did he do? What info did he use to come to that number? How could that be accurate at all? I guess you believe everything a coach says because they are never wrong. Nice try. I hope you know people post for many reasons. Many have kids who play d1 or are at top D3 schools. They are not good players? I don’t know which is worse a coach who would say such a dense thing or someone who hears it and changes how he views what he reads here. Most people are smart enough to read post and figure out which ones are credible without the club coach having to help. Good luck to you if your post has any truth to it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

“Many schools” okay which ones. There are many so give us a few where this happened.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

“Many schools” okay which ones. There are many so give us a few where this happened.

No normal person is going to name schools and coaches here. The stats are not accurate. Prove they are accurate and give examples and proof they are. Ask your kid if they are accurate. The kids know they are not as do most parents if they are paying attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

“Many schools” okay which ones. There are many so give us a few where this happened.

No normal person is going to name schools and coaches here. The stats are not accurate. Prove they are accurate and give examples and proof they are. Ask your kid if they are accurate. The kids know they are not as do most parents if they are paying attention.

High School “stats” do not count for much, they really do not matter, except maybe for a kid trying to set a school, county , state record. HS stats have never been accurate but I do not believe they are that far off with respect to goals, other stats are most likely less accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Statistics are completely useless in determining a players ability on the field. The best midfielder on a team will be covered by the LSM, hampering his chances of scoring, the best attack will be covered by the best defender. The best defender will have the best attack. This factors into “statistics “ every game.

And the best players overcome the best competition and find a way to score/ turn the ball over, make the save, win the face off, etc. Those players are then top of the stats.

Why? Just cook the scorebook like Mt Sinai does.

Many schools have fake stats especially those that have coaches who have a son on the team he is coaching or a kid the school will push for an award like All County. That is a fact that the stats for some schools and kids are made up. It does not happen in college which may explain why some kids who run up the stats in HS can’t do it in college.

“Many schools” okay which ones. There are many so give us a few where this happened.

No normal person is going to name schools and coaches here. The stats are not accurate. Prove they are accurate and give examples and proof they are. Ask your kid if they are accurate. The kids know they are not as do most parents if they are paying attention.

Every game is filmed and coaches watch the film In Playoff games are taken by table official

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Statistics at HS games are kept by student managers. You want “on point” statistics, pay someone. Should inch up everyone’s school taxes just a bit. Sounds worthwhile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

Obviously the person who posted this did not want to get specific. Can’t blame him. Top ranked it’s pretty easy to determine. Nassau and Suffolk both only had one top conference where the best teams competed against each other. I know for a fact the statistics are not accurate. There is a reason why college coaches ignore them. Most of the time there is some kid keeping score and does not even understand the rules of what is an assist. . In fact most of the parents on here probably can’t give the definition of an assist. Nothing against anyone but it is just insane to think that the statistics are accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

Obviously the person who posted this did not want to get specific. Can’t blame him. Top ranked it’s pretty easy to determine. Nassau and Suffolk both only had one top conference where the best teams competed against each other. I know for a fact the statistics are not accurate. There is a reason why college coaches ignore them. Most of the time there is some kid keeping score and does not even understand the rules of what is an assist. . In fact most of the parents on here probably can’t give the definition of an assist. Nothing against anyone but it is just insane to think that the statistics are accurate.

It’s not insane, it’s just not a big deal. Statistics aren’t accurate in HS football, basketball or soccer either. There is one solution, stop playing sports. The program for the HS play is usually pretty accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Why bother with the stats at all? Why track them if you do not care if they are accurate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Oh please, get over yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Disagree. For those who played team sports and scored and have stats to speak of should make sure the stats are accurate. Those who played sports would understand that more. If you just read how to books on being a team player and never accumulated stats and never played you would not be able to imagine a kid wanting his stats be recognized. A team player would make sure he was not credited with three goals when he only scored one. If that guy does not step up those who actually scored should try and get it right. Otherwise why keep stats?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Oh please, get over yourself.

Says the guy literally crying over his sons missed assist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We played top ranked teams and the stats were never accurate. One example was when the opposing team's best player scored one goal and was credited with three. That is just one example. It happened all the time. The biggest abuse of stats came with adding assist. That was never accurate even in the playoffs. Our team never has accurate stats. Players would complain and they were told nothing could be done because it was already called in by the coach. The "mistakes" always favored the same players. My guy plays defense so it never affected him. Those that say stats are not accurate are not making it up.

Once again, a poster throwing around words like "top ranked teams" "it happened all the time", yet gives no specific dates or teams to validate the claim. It didn't happen all the time, the stats were mostly accurate, and what kid is complaining to the coach about missing stats? if my son made that complaint to his coach he would be done and I would be embarrassed for him. Whatever happened to winning?

There is nothing wrong with a player pointing out to his coach that the scorekeeper got it wrong. If you are not going to try to get it right than why bother keeping score or stats at all?

There is plenty wrong with it, especially if your team lost. I can’t imagine anyone posting that ever played a team sport.

Disagree. For those who played team sports and scored and have stats to speak of should make sure the stats are accurate. Those who played sports would understand that more. If you just read how to books on being a team player and never accumulated stats and never played you would not be able to imagine a kid wanting his stats be recognized. A team player would make sure he was not credited with three goals when he only scored one. If that guy does not step up those who actually scored should try and get it right. Otherwise why keep stats?

So you played for a coach who was fine with you telling him you scored three goals and was only credited with one, nor your two assists should actually be three? You actually played for a guy who would have been fine with that scenario? Please tell me his name, I would love to know.

The point that started this was that HS coaches have favorites and promote some kids over others. One way to do this is to make “mistakes” on stats before they are called in. Who knows what the motive is. But it happens more than you think. Some Schools have coaches who coach relatives or friends with parents of kids on the team. Others want to promote one kid over another. Honest mistakes do happen too. Students do the stat book. Kids all the time make “mistakes” for friends or kids they don’t like. Once the book is handed in the winning coach calls in whatever stats he wants. Maybe he changes it based on faulty memory or has favorites. Hard argue this is an accurate system. It always seems coaches favorites or relatives benefit from a mistake and are never hurt by one.

Anyone who remembers the Empire State games knows about the politics involved. The difference is now there are thousands of dollars invested (wasted) in club programs and anonymous message boards to air grievances. People can argue stats all they want but film doesn't lie. Love how parents think college coaches are stunands duped by phantom assists given to undeserving players. I know that scores and stats called in are done so by the winning coach. So if your team is on the losing end you can only hope that their high school girls keeping the stats book aren't distracted by their infatuation for some members of the team. Stats are close. Check out the leading scorers over the years and then review their college careers. It's usually close if they played any level of competition in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point that started this was that HS coaches have favorites and promote some kids over others. One way to do this is to make “mistakes” on stats before they are called in. Who knows what the motive is. But it happens more than you think. Some Schools have coaches who coach relatives or friends with parents of kids on the team. Others want to promote one kid over another. Honest mistakes do happen too. Students do the stat book. Kids all the time make “mistakes” for friends or kids they don’t like. Once the book is handed in the winning coach calls in whatever stats he wants. Maybe he changes it based on faulty memory or has favorites. Hard argue this is an accurate system. It always seems coaches favorites or relatives benefit from a mistake and are never hurt by one.

Very true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point that started this was that HS coaches have favorites and promote some kids over others. One way to do this is to make “mistakes” on stats before they are called in. Who knows what the motive is. But it happens more than you think. Some Schools have coaches who coach relatives or friends with parents of kids on the team. Others want to promote one kid over another. Honest mistakes do happen too. Students do the stat book. Kids all the time make “mistakes” for friends or kids they don’t like. Once the book is handed in the winning coach calls in whatever stats he wants. Maybe he changes it based on faulty memory or has favorites. Hard argue this is an accurate system. It always seems coaches favorites or relatives benefit from a mistake and are never hurt by one.

This is a ridiculous comment. it doesn't happen that often, I went to hundreds of lacrosse games and maybe a missed assist, never a missed goal. Maybe a missed ground ball, never a missed goal. maybe a missed CTO, never a missed goal. So not sure where your son plays, maybe enlighten all the readers here, it is after all anonymous, so we can all check Newsday next Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point that started this was that HS coaches have favorites and promote some kids over others. One way to do this is to make “mistakes” on stats before they are called in. Who knows what the motive is. But it happens more than you think. Some Schools have coaches who coach relatives or friends with parents of kids on the team. Others want to promote one kid over another. Honest mistakes do happen too. Students do the stat book. Kids all the time make “mistakes” for friends or kids they don’t like. Once the book is handed in the winning coach calls in whatever stats he wants. Maybe he changes it based on faulty memory or has favorites. Hard argue this is an accurate system. It always seems coaches favorites or relatives benefit from a mistake and are never hurt by one.

This is a ridiculous comment. it doesn't happen that often, I went to hundreds of lacrosse games and maybe a missed assist, never a missed goal. Maybe a missed ground ball, never a missed goal. maybe a missed CTO, never a missed goal. So not sure where your son plays, maybe enlighten all the readers here, it is after all anonymous, so we can all check Newsday next Spring.

I guess we all have different experiences. Some people notice more than others. My experience is like many others posting here that it happens a lot. If you just look at the way the scoring is kept it is impossible to be accurate.

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Then I have to believe your son played on a garbage team. Son played on a “top team” in Nassau, stats were pretty on point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Actually, coaches want to see the kid play in person, and they like to see kids play in the summer for top club teams, coaches want to see kids play against the best competition possible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Actually, coaches want to see the kid play in person, and they like to see kids play in the summer for top club teams, coaches want to see kids play against the best competition possible.

And when you get to that college make sure you tell the coach the stats are incorrect! Should earn you plenty of field time as he tries to correct this horrible mistake!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Actually, coaches want to see the kid play in person, and they like to see kids play in the summer for top club teams, coaches want to see kids play against the best competition possible.

And when you get to that college make sure you tell the coach the stats are incorrect! Should earn you plenty of field time as he tries to correct this horrible mistake!!

Everyone should teach their own kids how to react if the stats are wrong. Or teach them to say nothing. There is no right or wrong just consequences. It may work out for some to point wrong stats out it may not. Some coaches will care some may not. There is no one universal answer to anything and no automatic predictable coach response. Just teach your kids to do the right thing and hope it works out for them because it does not always.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Actually, coaches want to see the kid play in person, and they like to see kids play in the summer for top club teams, coaches want to see kids play against the best competition possible.

And when you get to that college make sure you tell the coach the stats are incorrect! Should earn you plenty of field time as he tries to correct this horrible mistake!!

Everyone should teach their own kids how to react if the stats are wrong. Or teach them to say nothing. There is no right or wrong just consequences. It may work out for some to point wrong stats out it may not. Some coaches will care some may not. There is no one universal answer to anything and no automatic predictable coach response. Just teach your kids to do the right thing and hope it works out for them because it does not always.

There is absolutely no way you ever played a team sport in HS or college. You’re probably a very nice person though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For those who think the statistics are accurate I ask you during games next spring to count the goalie saves on the winning higher level teams when they beat a team 20-0. The losing team will literally get no shots on goal and the goalie for the winning team will be credited with multiple saves. I am not going to single out any high schools but even on my son’s team where the coaches wanted to promote and was friends with the goalie’s parents he added multiple saves when the other team had at most two or three shots on goal. The stats are a joke and anyone who believes them may be on the gullible side.

Only parents and their kids care about stats. College coaches want to see video. Unless your son has set the county record for points, in 2 years no one will give a garbage about phantom assists or saves. You think a bad goalie is going to get recruited because a coach or stat girl padded his stats? Stop already.

Actually, coaches want to see the kid play in person, and they like to see kids play in the summer for top club teams, coaches want to see kids play against the best competition possible.

And when you get to that college make sure you tell the coach the stats are incorrect! Should earn you plenty of field time as he tries to correct this horrible mistake!!

Everyone should teach their own kids how to react if the stats are wrong. Or teach them to say nothing. There is no right or wrong just consequences. It may work out for some to point wrong stats out it may not. Some coaches will care some may not. There is no one universal answer to anything and no automatic predictable coach response. Just teach your kids to do the right thing and hope it works out for them because it does not always.

There is absolutely no way you ever played a team sport in HS or college. You’re probably a very nice person though.

Why does that matter? It means nothing if someone did not play in college. I understand lacrosse better than some people who have played just by watching even though I did not play lacrosse myself. Played d1 Hockey. Not in NY. Yes the stats were wrong there too. But got corrected most of the time. Hockey the stats were more important back in the day because college coaches came to the Hs games where I lived. Also not as much scoring so every point was important. If a mistake was made the players got it changed by the end of the game. Usually at the end of the period we would go to the score table and say that was not my goal. If a player did not do that he was not considered a team player. Doing the right thing has worked for me and my kids who now play d1 lacrosse. One left and doing what he needs to be done to be successful. You could never go wrong by being polite, honest and doing the right thing even if it does not work out for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those who constantly harp on "politics" and "holdbacks" and all the other obstacles preventing their boys from recognition or success on the field just don't want to face reality. Your boy may be a good lacrosse player, even a great one, but he's not nearly as good as you think.

That may be true. But you also must consider the other side. All those parents, club coaches, and high school coaches with connections who continuously meet with or call the evaluators for whatever list or team is being put together also may know that the kid they are pushing for is not deserving and is not good enough or not as good as the unknown kid who was great at tryouts and may actually make the team or list on merit alone. If a superstar needs someone to call on his behalf when the kid who was much better than the superstar at a tryout has no one to call for him that also may mean that the superstar who always makes the top teams and list is not really all that good. It goes both ways. I would love to see a list or team put together from true evaluators who know nothing about the kids coming in and receive no calls from anyone to try and influence him. That would be a list that would be credible. Unfortunately that list or team does not exist. That’s why these lists, awards and teams mean absolutely nothing. I look at which kids made division one or top Division III school to determine who the best are. With the exception of maybe a handful who had connections to get on those college teams that is your list of best players.

Aren't there 3 divisions???? Its comical the "middle child" always gets omitted in conversations. ALOT of talent in that 2nd division.....just sayin

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Those who saw it and experienced it can confirm it happened with no reason not to tell the true. Those who have not seen it occur probably did not notice it but it still could have happened . You probably missed it since you admitted you don’t obsess over stats. You probably did not look close enough. You are not going to convince those who have seen it occur that it did not happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Those who saw it and experienced it can confirm it happened with no reason not to tell the true. Those who have not seen it occur probably did not notice it but it still could have happened . You probably missed it since you admitted you don’t obsess over stats. You probably did not look close enough. You are not going to convince those who have seen it occur that it did not happen.

How many goals was your son shorted last year, the year before or any year he has been playing varsity for his HS.

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Those who saw it and experienced it can confirm it happened with no reason not to tell the true. Those who have not seen it occur probably did not notice it but it still could have happened . You probably missed it since you admitted you don’t obsess over stats. You probably did not look close enough. You are not going to convince those who have seen it occur that it did not happen.

Kids get shorted more than padded in my experience

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

What do you think happened?

The same thing that has been happening for the last few years, It's a political event for LI. Not saying all the kids who played didn't deserve to be there. Clearly there were many who did and some who did not. The excuse was that a handful of kids backed out. This is true but if the best team was assembled based on merit and talent, then it should not have mattered that some backed out. The team would of had enough depth to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

What the heck is going on at UA? What an embarrassment for LI!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

Great catch mom/dad and I'm sure those corrections got them scholarships. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

Great catch mom/dad and I'm sure those corrections got them scholarships. LOL

Not the point. People are saying it never happens!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck is going on at UA? What an embarrassment for LI!

Who is actually playing? Are the teams supposed to be good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

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my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

Great catch mom/dad and I'm sure those corrections got them scholarships. LOL

Not the point. People are saying it never happens!

Is this still being debated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

Great catch mom/dad and I'm sure those corrections got them scholarships. LOL

Not only did it get them scholarships, it helped seal the All-American awards. Make sure you get mistakes corrected ASAP. Your kid deserves what he earned!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What the heck is going on at UA? What an embarrassment for LI!

Who is actually playing? Are the teams supposed to be good?

Did you see the roster and coaches? Supposed to be some of the best in the country!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.[/]

my kids have absolutely had goals they scored given to others. We called the coach and he had it corrected.

Great catch mom/dad and I'm sure those corrections got them scholarships. LOL

Not only did it get them scholarships, it helped seal the All-American awards. Make sure you get mistakes corrected ASAP. Your kid deserves what he earned!

Coach did it to your kid on purpose lolol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck is going on at UA? What an embarrassment for LI!

Is this serious ? 2024s never made it to playoffs at AS.
You sound a litter bitter.

Hearing new classification numbers move many schools up and down. Trying to find out how many will actually be impact moves South Side is a C hearing manhasset is a B again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What the heck is going on at UA? What an embarrassment for LI!

Is this serious ? 2024s never made it to playoffs at AS.
You sound a litter bitter.

SWR coach should be prohibit from coaching in this event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing new classification numbers move many schools up and down. Trying to find out how many will actually be impact moves South Side is a C hearing manhasset is a B again

I do not think this is known yet but would certainly make things interesting as I’m sure others have shifted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

Yeah you disagree so it’s dense. But still can’t provide a single incident where it happened. Not even one factual and verified event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

Yeah you disagree so it’s dense. But still can’t provide a single incident where it happened. Not even one factual and verified event.

Lol, this is an anonymous forum. You really think someone is going to mention their kid? It happens. Fact. The only person that can have it corrected is your coach. A good coach wants the stats to be correct. If it’s wrong don’t be a coward and notify you coach immediately

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing new classification numbers move many schools up and down. Trying to find out how many will actually be impact moves South Side is a C hearing manhasset is a B again

I do not think this is known yet but would certainly make things interesting as I’m sure others have shifted

It happens a lot. Not Sure which teams are moving, I do know that there are a few schools that are right on the bubble with enrollment numbers every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is a good point. If a kid is credited with a goal that was not his that kid should notify the coaches. That would be a true team player. If he is willing to take credit for another player’s goal he is not a team player. It is that simple.

you guys are really sad, obsessing about statistics. Again, I have never ever seen a goal credited to another player. i would say not a single person on here has seen that in a HS game. perhaps in some silly club game, never a HS game. If Newsday made a mistake, that's on them. Maybe an assist, never a goal. I am betting none of you have either. So really what you are talking about is an assist.

Maybe the densest post EVER.

Yeah you disagree so it’s dense. But still can’t provide a single incident where it happened. Not even one factual and verified event.

Lol, this is an anonymous forum. You really think someone is going to mention their kid? It happens. Fact. The only person that can have it corrected is your coach. A good coach wants the stats to be correct. If it’s wrong don’t be a coward and notify you coach immediately

Love the posters who use the term “fact”. It’s not a fact, it’s an opinion. There is no basis to call it a fact without a verified incident. So it’s actually never happened. And now it’s “cowardly” to not correct a missed assist. You have no idea what a coward is, unless you look in the mirror. Now that’s a fact!!

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

What’s that even mean? The kids shouldn’t play varsity lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What can you do about? Just call these people out and make them look like fools. But honestly most of those guys are so arrogant they don't care.

Shouldn’t be able to coach again if you don’t have a winning record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

What’s that even mean? The kids shouldn’t play varsity lacrosse?

Meaning what coach would want that job with the Pequa parents who just ran the previous coach out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

What’s that even mean? The kids shouldn’t play varsity lacrosse?

Meaning what coach would want that job with the Pequa parents who just ran the previous coach out

Agreed, didn’t understand your initial statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

What did the coach do?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

What’s that even mean? The kids shouldn’t play varsity lacrosse?

Meaning what coach would want that job with the Pequa parents who just ran the previous coach out

Agreed, didn’t understand your initial statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word on the new coach at Massapequa ?

Lots of interesting names I’ve heard not sure anyone wants to sign up for all those fantastic parents

What’s that even mean? The kids shouldn’t play varsity lacrosse?

Meaning what coach would want that job with the Pequa parents who just ran the previous coach out

Crazy parents have run coaches out of other towns too.

Is Coach Powers out as well?

Parents in Pequa are just like every other town, a little nutty. New AD looking to bring in a fresh face, someone she hires.

I'm calling BS on the new face excuse..... Is she replacing all other successful coaches?

Not seeing a lot of 2022 commits. I did see FLG post some late summer commits. I thought it would be more active. You all think with 5 grades now playing college, this is impacting recruiting or a lot was done early on?

Not seeing a lot of 2022 commits. I did see FLG post some late summer commits. I thought it would be more active. You all think with 5 grades now playing college, this is impacting recruiting or a lot was done early on?

I think the pandemic has messed with recruiting for sure. I also think great lacrosse is being played in other parts of the country so LI numbers aren't the only part of the story...

All the other coaches were successful this year and did not play favorites. All finished better than 500 so they are staying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Shoreham Wading River and Mount Sinai took down LI UA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coach Powers out as well?

My guess would be the entire staff is not renewed. Powers and the rest all had ties to prior coach. They don’t stay on without him out of loyalty.

New coach will have an entirely new staff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Shoreham Wading River and Mount Sinai took down LI UA

Its sad because there are many 2022's that are more deserving than some 2023's especially since a lot of 2022's are still trying to get recruited. Im not saying they aren't good players but I believe some 2022's could have done just a good of a job or even better. But since this LI so lets just hijack the event and make sure there classmates are there too. 50% of team is MS and Shoreham.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coach Powers out as well?

My guess would be the entire staff is not renewed. Powers and the rest all had ties to prior coach. They don’t stay on without him out of loyalty.

New coach will have an entirely new staff

You’re not from Massapequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the other coaches were successful this year and did not play favorites. All finished better than 500 so they are staying

Which one of them has two NYS titles in the last 7 years?

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Not seeing a lot of 2022 commits. I did see FLG post some late summer commits. I thought it would be more active. You all think with 5 grades now playing college, this is impacting recruiting or a lot was done early on?

I think the pandemic has messed with recruiting for sure. I also think great lacrosse is being played in other parts of the country so LI numbers aren't the only part of the story...

It is definitely true that other parts of the country have cut into the number of commits from Long Island. It would be interesting to see how many total kids from Long Island compared to nationally committed for 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021. If we had those numbers it would give us a better understanding if there are less recruits from Long Island or it just seems like less because the recruiting process has slowed down since early commitItting ended.

Soccer has 3 or 4 in past 10 years. Coaches daughters were on the teams but the difference is he didn't sacrifice a season for his daughter and her friends. That why he is still the coach

Every day college teams are posting one or two kids deciding to play another year. It’s common sense that it is effecting the younger possible recruits. It’s changed the landscape. Kids who would be possibly going big DI or Ivy are now going NESCACS and it’s trickling down. The colleges are benefiting and HS kids are getting screwed. Lacrosse has always been the Wild Wild West. Why would that change now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every day college teams are posting one or two kids deciding to play another year. It’s common sense that it is effecting the younger possible recruits. It’s changed the landscape. Kids who would be possibly going big DI or Ivy are now going NESCACS and it’s trickling down. The colleges are benefiting and HS kids are getting screwed. Lacrosse has always been the Wild Wild West. Why would that change now?

So sad. The HS kids keep getting screwed. Only thing you’re wrong about is Ivies. Most of them don’t allow a 5th year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Shoreham Wading River and Mount Sinai took down LI UA

Its sad because there are many 2022's that are more deserving than some 2023's especially since a lot of 2022's are still trying to get recruited. Im not saying they aren't good players but I believe some 2022's could have done just a good of a job or even better. But since this LI so lets just hijack the event and make sure there classmates are there too. 50% of team is MS and Shoreham.

Well, that totally backfired! Embarrassing for LI Lacrosse. Also, not fair to the deserving 22’ players who needed exposure in such a tough year with a lost year last year! SELFISH

Quite a few high academic schools cut their recruiting class for HS 2022s by 30% So the squeeze is real.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every day college teams are posting one or two kids deciding to play another year. It’s common sense that it is effecting the younger possible recruits. It’s changed the landscape. Kids who would be possibly going big DI or Ivy are now going NESCACS and it’s trickling down. The colleges are benefiting and HS kids are getting screwed. Lacrosse has always been the Wild Wild West. Why would that change now?

Better watch out. When this was mentioned about the 2021 class, who lost their most important junior year, it was because the kids stunk and should have reclassified. Bunch of knuckleheads on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quite a few high academic schools cut their recruiting class for HS 2022s by 30% So the squeeze is real.

Don’t know the data, but with 5 grades now prevalent on the college level, there is likely less spots. A 5th year 23 year old is much more of value it seems than an 18 year old unproven. These coaches are under pressure to run a successful program and I would focus on grad transfers. I think the NCAA should have granted the extra year this year to those seniors, but ended it there.

Did Massapequa have a faceoff kid this year? Asking for a friend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quite a few high academic schools cut their recruiting class for HS 2022s by 30% So the squeeze is real.

Don’t know the data, but with 5 grades now prevalent on the college level, there is likely less spots. A 5th year 23 year old is much more of value it seems than an 18 year old unproven. These coaches are under pressure to run a successful program and I would focus on grad transfers. I think the NCAA should have granted the extra year this year to those seniors, but ended it there.

Some schools will be impacted more than others but it’s simple math and rosters will be crowded for a few more years and due to that the transfer portal will be crowded and because of that coaches will comitt less kids and shop for other spots

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Shoreham Wading River and Mount Sinai took down LI UA

Its sad because there are many 2022's that are more deserving than some 2023's especially since a lot of 2022's are still trying to get recruited. Im not saying they aren't good players but I believe some 2022's could have done just a good of a job or even better. But since this LI so lets just hijack the event and make sure there classmates are there too. 50% of team is MS and Shoreham.

Well, that totally backfired! Embarrassing for LI Lacrosse. Also, not fair to the deserving 22’ players who needed exposure in such a tough year with a lost year last year! SELFISH

Even if you take the suffolk team, atl 2022's when they played Nassau they would have ran everyone off the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the boys Highlight division at UA. I don't think I ever remember them not even making it into the bracket. Who picked this team?

This is disgraceful for LI, but just like to top 50 Nassau/Suffolk, it's all political.

Too many S's.One would have sufficed.

Shoreham Wading River and Mount Sinai took down LI UA

Spallina and Taylor are an embarrassment to youth lacrosse. Crooked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coach Powers out as well?

My guess would be the entire staff is not renewed. Powers and the rest all had ties to prior coach. They don’t stay on without him out of loyalty.

New coach will have an entirely new staff

What did the massapequa coach do to get fired?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did Massapequa have a faceoff kid this year? Asking for a friend

They did two years ago lololol

A lot of programs will or already have crowded rosters. But lot of programs won't because the university won't commit additional money to fund any roster expansion for a non-revenue sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coach Powers out as well?

My guess would be the entire staff is not renewed. Powers and the rest all had ties to prior coach. They don’t stay on without him out of loyalty.

New coach will have an entirely new staff

They would be ill advised not to keep him on.

Not for nothing. But is it just me that if my son came to me and said he wants to do another year of college so he can play lacrosse I’m gonna tell him the wallets open for only 4 years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing. But is it just me that if my son came to me and said he wants to do another year of college so he can play lacrosse I’m gonna tell him the wallets open for only 4 years?

That's correct. It's called "take out a loan son".

I feel the same way. But a lot of people don’t. Maybe the job market is still tight for new college grads? Maybe the coach is offering some money for your son to stay an extra year? Maybe your son will able to attend grad school while playing lacrosse?

If the school pays for it the let him stay. The alternative is he is back living with you again not making millions playing lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing. But is it just me that if my son came to me and said he wants to do another year of college so he can play lacrosse I’m gonna tell him the wallets open for only 4 years?

This is one of the reasons why the 2021/22 classes are having a hard time. Take a 5th and 6th year player and pay the proven commodity who can contribute now instead of the ? Freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not for nothing. But is it just me that if my son came to me and said he wants to do another year of college so he can play lacrosse I’m gonna tell him the wallets open for only 4 years?

If his season got cut short Freshman year, then limited season sophomore year, now no guarantees for junior year, yeah son go ahead, I got it.

For all the 2022 kids that committed last September be careful what you wish for!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all the 2022 kids that committed last September be careful what you wish for!

What does that mean ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For all the 2022 kids that committed last September be careful what you wish for!

What are you talking about? Please explain more.

I think he was referring to being an early signer and then having a 5th year player transfer in later in the year which may take your playing time.

Oh that makes sense. Nothing they can do about it. Can’t imagine too many freshman would be starting right away anyway

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think he was referring to being an early signer and then having a 5th year player transfer in later in the year which may take your playing time.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^
Why bother anymore. This college stuff has turned into an extension of semi-pro ball. SemiPro/Pro lacrosse =BORING. College ball is hot for a reason. It’s innocent (to an extent)

There are going to be 3 more recruiting classes competing with 5th year players for roster spots on college teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I think he was referring to being an early signer and then having a 5th year player transfer in later in the year which may take your playing time.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^
Why bother anymore. This college stuff has turned into an extension of semi-pro ball. SemiPro/Pro lacrosse =BORING. College ball is hot for a reason. It’s innocent (to an extent)[/quote

College athletics has been forever changed with NIL (name, image, likeness) and transfer portals.

With roster sizes averaging 50+ players and with the addition of 5th year players, what's the probability that any one player (non-5th year) will ever get meaningful playing time?

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

What a sweetheart you must be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

My oldest is taking the extra year of eligibility. But he is transferring to a D3 school for his masters. I really hope it’s the same school your kid is at. I hope he enjoys riding the bench. When my guy gets there.

Wow. As obnoxious as the first guy was, this is a pretty douchy post. Go back to work. Stop working from home. Or get a real hobby

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

My oldest is taking the extra year of eligibility. But he is transferring to a D3 school for his masters. I really hope it’s the same school your kid is at. I hope he enjoys riding the bench. When my guy gets there.

Any good school that recruits want to go to will have the same issue. Transfers or grad students will be taking spots. In fact D3 schools are taking transfers/grad students and cutting weaker players as opposed to D1 schools who are cutting less and holding on to players resulting in larger rosters. Many of those D1 kids who do get cut or want to leave a D1 larger roster will transfer to desirable D3 schools. Those days of guaranteed playing time at a D3 school are over for now. Not a good situation for anyone.

Some extreme examples. 2021 Denver team had 75 players on its roster. 2022 Loyola team has 10 grad students on its roster.
Bottom line: more than ever, your kid needs to choose a school because he likes the school and not because he likes the lacrosse.

I feel bad for the seniors in high school lacrosse. Not the 19,20 and 21 year old seniors, but the legit seniors. Duke just got 6 senior “grad students” to come back for yet another year. Who will the college coaches actually play? And 18 or 19 year old boy or a 25 year old man? 🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I feel bad for the seniors in high school lacrosse. Not the 19,20 and 21 year old seniors, but the legit seniors. Duke just got 6 senior “grad students” to come back for yet another year. Who will the college coaches actually play? And 18 or 19 year old boy or a 25 year old man? 🤔

I know of good players who gave up and are playing club. The landscape has changed for 2021, 22 & 23 at least

Agreed. Club is a great way to go. The trickle down has been brutal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I feel bad for the seniors in high school lacrosse. Not the 19,20 and 21 year old seniors, but the legit seniors. Duke just got 6 senior “grad students” to come back for yet another year. Who will the college coaches actually play? And 18 or 19 year old boy or a 25 year old man? 🤔

I know of good players who gave up and are playing club. The landscape has changed for 2021, 22 & 23 at least

The landscape has changed for everyone. College juniors who have had 15 games total and most without any fans. Give me a break.

Those college juniors as well as any student who was a D1 college player in 2020 all got another year of eligibility to play lacrosse. No player below them in HS or below was given do-over. Now these college players who are exercising their do-over year and taking roster spots are hurting the players below them in 2 ways. 1. They are significantly limiting playing time for others. 2. They are decreasing the # of players that teams will recruit during those years they are around. The landscape has changed for everyone, but some worse than others.

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I feel bad for the seniors in high school lacrosse. Not the 19,20 and 21 year old seniors, but the legit seniors. Duke just got 6 senior “grad students” to come back for yet another year. Who will the college coaches actually play? And 18 or 19 year old boy or a 25 year old man? 🤔

Considering a 19 year old boy started at attack along with a 19 year old sophomore on defense….the fact is - college is not “on age lacrosse,” and neither is high school varsity. If the kids good, they will play. Those who don’t play are on a good team and getting a solid college experience and a great education. Hopefully they can learn from these 25 year olds and break the whinny habits of their parents.

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

So will his wife and kids also be living in your basement 😆

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

I do feel sorry for them. Us old folks, it is just another year. For these young men, they lost a year that they can never get back. My son doesn't stink, he made All County, but got passed over by the D1 programs that were recruiting him for these 25 year old seniors. I don't hold a grudge against the holdbacks, the 5th year senior, or the programs that chose to taken a proven player over my son who is a maybe.He passed up PG to go to a school that fit him academically, has been to the playoffs many times, he likes the coach and the players who are there, so I'm thankful it all worked out for him. But you fools who think that they got passed over because they stink, just shut up. Your kid probably never even played on their D1 program as a 25 year old, and you troll here to make yourself feel better. Feel sorry for all the kids, they all got hosed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

You make an awful lot of assumptions about people you don't know. I think you have a subpar athlete at home and it burns you up inside.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

You make an awful lot of assumptions about people you don't know. I think you have a subpar athlete at home and it burns you up inside.

Sorry, you're the one making assumptions about people you don't know. No, I don't have a subpar athlete at home and it doesn't burn me up- I actually don't have a son who is old enough to be affected by this; so none of this really matter to me at all. I just think covid stinks for everyone. But if you allowed yourself to be objective for once, you would finally admit the HS recruiting classes of 2022 and 2023 (probably- to be seen) have it the worst compared to the other lacrosse classes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do feel sorry for them. Us old folks, it is just another year. For these young men, they lost a year that they can never get back. My son doesn't stink, he made All County, but got passed over by the D1 programs that were recruiting him for these 25 year old seniors. I don't hold a grudge against the holdbacks, the 5th year senior, or the programs that chose to taken a proven player over my son who is a maybe.He passed up PG to go to a school that fit him academically, has been to the playoffs many times, he likes the coach and the players who are there, so I'm thankful it all worked out for him. But you fools who think that they got passed over because they stink, just shut up. Your kid probably never even played on their D1 program as a 25 year old, and you troll here to make yourself feel better. Feel sorry for all the kids, they all got hosed.

As the Mom of a 2022 daughter where there really aren't holdbacks in any school year, we have had the same experience with luckily the same positive outcome but getting to that outcome has not been easy. And it has been the same for her club and high school teammates as well. My DD was being seriously courted (through her club of course) by mid to high level D1 coaches in the months leading up to Covid. We were visiting schools and doing admission tours all over the country. Than Covid struck and everything changed - including not having a sophomore lacrosse season in a highly competitive conference. This also meant zero high school film for her sophomore year either. Now she is committed to a high D2 program. She had offers at lower level D1 but the one she committed to matched all her other "wants" and she really liked the coach and current players she interacted with. In the end it should work out but I know of some very talented players who it has not worked out for yet. They may not get the chance at all to play NCAA lacrosse in college. At least the 5th year players have. All of these kids have lost something. I just don't feel that the 5th year evened the playing field for all college/potential college players. And I also know many college players who didn't get to have their normal Junior or Senior year playing experience because those who chose to stay kept their playing position ahead of the younger kids denying them their opportunity to be on the field. Some will wait their turn for their 5th year and some can't afford to do so (either in money or time).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

You make an awful lot of assumptions about people you don't know. I think you have a subpar athlete at home and it burns you up inside.

Sorry, you're the one making assumptions about people you don't know. No, I don't have a subpar athlete at home and it doesn't burn me up- I actually don't have a son who is old enough to be affected by this; so none of this really matter to me at all. I just think covid stinks for everyone. But if you allowed yourself to be objective for once, you would finally admit the HS recruiting classes of 2022 and 2023 (probably- to be seen) have it the worst compared to the other lacrosse classes.

So a clown then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Many 2022 players were basically recruited via club coach connections with college coach contacts. Having the right connections helped some players and not having them hurt others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

You make an awful lot of assumptions about people you don't know. I think you have a subpar athlete at home and it burns you up inside.

Sorry, you're the one making assumptions about people you don't know. No, I don't have a subpar athlete at home and it doesn't burn me up- I actually don't have a son who is old enough to be affected by this; so none of this really matter to me at all. I just think covid stinks for everyone. But if you allowed yourself to be objective for once, you would finally admit the HS recruiting classes of 2022 and 2023 (probably- to be seen) have it the worst compared to the other lacrosse classes.

Dude, you're all over the place with your thoughts and quite frankly, none of them make sense or carry weight. This all coming from a guy who supposedly doesn't have a child old enough to endure what you're claiming is occurring and supposedly doesn't care. You cared enough to take the time and jot down some random unfounded thoughts though, right?

To say the certain classes have it the worse just goes to show how naïve you truly are. The first class affected by all this was 2020 who were essentially robbed of a normal senior year and had whatever recruiting process they were in put on hold. 2021 wasn't any picnic either.... and this is coming from a 2019 grad parent. So before you start spewing nonsense about stuff you supposedly could care less about, do some research before doing so.

2021 HS commits 2022 HS commits 2020 grad students 2021 grad students
Maryland 19 9 0 2
Rutgers 18 10 1 5
Penn State 16 12 0 6
Hopkins 16 12 0 2
Duke 13 10 3 15
UNC 11 11 0 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 HS commits 2022 HS commits 2020 grad students 2021 grad students
Maryland 19 9 0 2
Rutgers 18 10 1 5
Penn State 16 12 0 6
Hopkins 16 12 0 2
Duke 13 10 3 15
UNC 11 11 0 2

Where did you pull the 2021 commits from? They seem high, most years top programs take anywhere from 9-12 players Some years they go a little higher based off what they are looking for. The most I've ever seen from Maryland was 13-14 players. 2021 I believe from they had 13 commits not 19 I could be wrong. 2022 commits looks bout right for a recruiting class.

"2021 HS commits 2022 HS commits 2020 grad students 2021 grad students
Maryland 19 9 0 2
Rutgers 18 10 1 5
Penn State 16 12 0 6
Hopkins 16 12 0 2
Duke 13 10 3 15
UNC 11 11 0 2"

just a cursory check of these stats proves wrong. Duke took 9 kids in 2021 and 8 in 2022 (not 13 and 10) according to Inside Lacrosse.

Try this site.

http://laxbytes.com/RECRUITS/recruits_men_2021.php

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

What a sweetheart you must be.

Seriously, you don't have a clue? So what if they ride the bench for a year. Chances are the D1 education is way better, but of course your johnny is the exception. Plus after waiting the year that D1 Player will have oppurtunities when d3 doesnt have them at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

What a sweetheart you must be.

Seriously, you don't have a clue? So what if they ride the bench for a year. Chances are the D1 education is way better, but of course your johnny is the exception. Plus after waiting the year that D1 Player will have oppurtunities when d3 doesnt have them at all.

While I don't agree with the original poster, you are seriously misguided if you actually believe what you wrote.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

What a sweetheart you must be.

Seriously, you don't have a clue? So what if they ride the bench for a year. Chances are the D1 education is way better, but of course your johnny is the exception. Plus after waiting the year that D1 Player will have oppurtunities when d3 doesnt have them at all.

Not really sure what this means. The D1 player will have opportunities when D3 doesn’t have them at all? You’ve obviously never attended a top 20 D3 game. The top D3 schools are comparable to the 30-50 D1 schools athletically. Educationally... there is a wide range of educational opportunities in D3. From MIT, NESCAC ( Tufts, Middlebury, Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan etc ), Centennial ( Gettysburg, Dickinson, Haverford, Swarthmore, Franklin And Marshall, etc ), as well as Steven’s , RPI, Union, OWU, Denison, Washington & Lee and a host of other great schools... so you’re way off base in your assessment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Its all pretty funny when you think about it. We feel bad for college players because the seniors and grad students get to come back for an extra year because of COVID...but its ok to hold back a kid 1-2 years before high school. LOL. You can argue holding back Johnny in grade school does more damage to Johnny's peers in grade school than what you are seeing in college nowadays. Not to mention Johnny's dad is coaching him in grade school so he is playing attack, taking face offs, and basically hogging up all the oxygen on the team. Its a cruel world!

How do you know that the 5th years seniors in college who are coming back for their extra year weren't kids who were also held back in HS? I bet a lot of them were, and it definitely fits their MO - to always manipulate the system to your advantage at the expense of others. And you still feel sorry about them?

You make an awful lot of assumptions about people you don't know. I think you have a subpar athlete at home and it burns you up inside.

Sorry, you're the one making assumptions about people you don't know. No, I don't have a subpar athlete at home and it doesn't burn me up- I actually don't have a son who is old enough to be affected by this; so none of this really matter to me at all. I just think covid stinks for everyone. But if you allowed yourself to be objective for once, you would finally admit the HS recruiting classes of 2022 and 2023 (probably- to be seen) have it the worst compared to the other lacrosse classes.

Dude, you're all over the place with your thoughts and quite frankly, none of them make sense or carry weight. This all coming from a guy who supposedly doesn't have a child old enough to endure what you're claiming is occurring and supposedly doesn't care. You cared enough to take the time and jot down some random unfounded thoughts though, right?

To say the certain classes have it the worse just goes to show how naïve you truly are. The first class affected by all this was 2020 who were essentially robbed of a normal senior year and had whatever recruiting process they were in put on hold. 2021 wasn't any picnic either.... and this is coming from a 2019 grad parent. So before you start spewing nonsense about stuff you supposedly could care less about, do some research before doing so.

I see a lot of unnecessary personal attacks. Just wondering, where's your research?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Couldn’t wait to get little Johnny on committ list on BOTC for D1! Now they know that most kids freshman are gonna ride the bench, haha my kid just got committed to a D3 school and I know he’s gonna play and get a good education too! Suckers.

What a sweetheart you must be.

Seriously, you don't have a clue? So what if they ride the bench for a year. Chances are the D1 education is way better, but of course your johnny is the exception. Plus after waiting the year that D1 Player will have oppurtunities when d3 doesnt have them at all.

Not really sure what this means. The D1 player will have opportunities when D3 doesn’t have them at all? You’ve obviously never attended a top 20 D3 game. The top D3 schools are comparable to the 30-50 D1 schools athletically. Educationally... there is a wide range of educational opportunities in D3. From MIT, NESCAC ( Tufts, Middlebury, Williams, Amherst, Wesleyan etc ), Centennial ( Gettysburg, Dickinson, Haverford, Swarthmore, Franklin And Marshall, etc ), as well as Steven’s , RPI, Union, OWU, Denison, Washington & Lee and a host of other great schools... so you’re way off base in your assessment.

I'm confused. Your son landed at a D3 school you and he are happy about. That's great. Why the nasty comments about kids who took a different route as long as they're happy? Seems odd.

Is the glamour of playing D1 lacrosse becoming more of a mirage? What's the point of literally sacrificing 4 years of your life in college to be able to play a sport when the team roster size is over 60 players (Denver) and has 15 grad students (Duke)? At least for those teams, most of the players on the roster will probably never get to see the field during their college career.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the glamour of playing D1 lacrosse becoming more of a mirage? What's the point of literally sacrificing 4 years of your life in college to be able to play a sport when the team roster size is over 60 players (Denver) and has 15 grad students (Duke)? At least for those teams, most of the players on the roster will probably never get to see the field during their college career.

But the ones that do will have the time of their lives. So why not take the chance?? Imagine if some of the great ones had your attitude. What a shame that would have been.

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

I think most elite athletes have the mentality that someone has to play might as well be me. Imagine if Michael Jordan would have settled when he got cut from his High School JV basketball team. We all would have missed out on something special.

There are a lot of people who will always take the long odds in chase of a dream. I guess that’s fine. But just like playing the lottery or gambling at the casino, it takes a lot of losers to find 1 winner. Casinos and lotteries prey on that dream that YOU will be the next winner. Is that a wide decision?

Now with the appearance of grad school players, you may have patiently paid your dues and consistently moved yourself up the team depth chart not knowing your coach has imported a bunch of grad students after the lacrosse season to join your team and relegate you back on the bench for next year and the years to come..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

Using the sports analogy. If Aaron Rodgers was always stuck behind an older, but better player (a Brett Favre whose skills never eroded because of age), would he still become Aaron Rodgers, HOF NFL QB?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

That's the way it should be. But that's not always what actually happens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

Very doubtful. Most top schools do not except students for lacrosse that could not make it in with out. Lacrosse makes the process easier. Every kid that gets into Duke, ND, Virginia etc. Get in because they have the grades. Lax does not help a kid get accepted to a top school. This is an excuse people use to justify spending thousands of dollars on youth lacrosse. The clubs sell this BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Using the sports analogy. If Aaron Rodgers was always stuck behind an older, but better player (a Brett Favre whose skills never eroded because of age), would he still become Aaron Rodgers, HOF NFL QB?

We’ll never know. I think that’s the point. My son would
Prefer to give it a shot at d1 level. Not saying it’s right
Or wrong. It just is. I didn’t like the original post because
It was bad mouthing kids who wanted to go the d1 route

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Using the sports analogy. If Aaron Rodgers was always stuck behind an older, but better player (a Brett Favre whose skills never eroded because of age), would he still become Aaron Rodgers, HOF NFL QB?

We’ll never know. I think that’s the point. My son would
Prefer to give it a shot at d1 level. Not saying it’s right
Or wrong. It just is. I didn’t like the original post because
It was bad mouthing kids who wanted to go the d1 route

I didn't write OP. I don't disagree with anyone's decision to go for it. It's their choice, and it could ultimately prove to be the right decision for them. They just need to go into it eyes wide open.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

Very doubtful. Most top schools do not except students for lacrosse that could not make it in with out. Lacrosse makes the process easier. Every kid that gets into Duke, ND, Virginia etc. Get in because they have the grades. Lax does not help a kid get accepted to a top school. This is an excuse people use to justify spending thousands of dollars on youth lacrosse. The clubs sell this BS.

That's not true. A lot of high academic programs like the Ivies and Stanford take athletes who would never get accepted by admissions if they went through the regular application process. For many of those schools, the acceptance rate is absurdly low at 3-5%.

That is 100% false! There is a kid and Duke and one at UVA who absolutely did not even come close to having the grades to get in, but because they are one of the best players at their position, they got in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

Very doubtful. Most top schools do not except students for lacrosse that could not make it in with out. Lacrosse makes the process easier. Every kid that gets into Duke, ND, Virginia etc. Get in because they have the grades. Lax does not help a kid get accepted to a top school. This is an excuse people use to justify spending thousands of dollars on youth lacrosse. The clubs sell this BS.

I disagree. My son got into a top school he would never have got into without lacrosse. . He did visit one of the three you mentioned and the coach told him a gpa that was needed that was much lower than the 4.0 that was needed to get into that school for non athletes. It depends on be recruit. All are not treated equal. By the way my son was not one of the top recruits in the country so you don’t have to be the best of the best to get into a top school with lesser grades than needed by non athletes. .

From Stanford Magazine “How to Build a Dynasty.” July/Aug 1999

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/how-to-build-a-dynasty

“Stanford is the school of choice for the scholar-athlete. In the four classes entering the University from 1994 to 1997, the average freshman male athlete had logged a 3.73 high school GPA and a 1,215 SAT score, according to NCAA statistics. Female freshman athletes during the same period had a 3.87 GPA and a 1,151 SAT score. By comparison, the averages for all Division 1 schools combined were 2.97 and 997 for males and 3.29 and 1,007 for females. At Duke University, another school known for academics as well as athletics, incoming freshman male athletes had a 3.46 GPA and an SAT of 1,103, while females had a 3.51 grade-point and a 1,090 test score.”

Those standardized test scores are extremely low, even for the standards back then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Using the sports analogy. If Aaron Rodgers was always stuck behind an older, but better player (a Brett Favre whose skills never eroded because of age), would he still become Aaron Rodgers, HOF NFL QB?

We’ll never know. I think that’s the point. My son would
Prefer to give it a shot at d1 level. Not saying it’s right
Or wrong. It just is. I didn’t like the original post because
It was bad mouthing kids who wanted to go the d1 route

I didn't write OP. I don't disagree with anyone's decision to go for it. It's their choice, and it could ultimately prove to be the right decision for them. They just need to go into it eyes wide open.

I think that’s pretty obvious when going through the
Recruiting process

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, but I think his point was if 60 kids are on rosters, most won’t be having the times of their lives. 50 kids are standing on the sideline watching 10 play. Maybe another 8 to 10 get some action. So 40,42 kids are basically just there so their parents can tell people my son plays D1 lacrosse. So missing out on college life for most players on those teams, is that worth it? I’m assuming that was the point being made.

Or maybe they got into a school they never could have without lax and already got to their end goal? Playing is gravy...

Very doubtful. Most top schools do not except students for lacrosse that could not make it in with out. Lacrosse makes the process easier. Every kid that gets into Duke, ND, Virginia etc. Get in because they have the grades. Lax does not help a kid get accepted to a top school. This is an excuse people use to justify spending thousands of dollars on youth lacrosse. The clubs sell this BS.

I disagree. My son got into a top school he would never have got into without lacrosse. . He did visit one of the three you mentioned and the coach told him a gpa that was needed that was much lower than the 4.0 that was needed to get into that school for non athletes. It depends on be recruit. All are not treated equal. By the way my son was not one of the top recruits in the country so you don’t have to be the best of the best to get into a top school with lesser grades than needed by non athletes. .

Exactly. 1300 gets you into ivy school with lax. 1300
Without lax don’t even apply to an ivy.

Current PLL great Zed Williams and also a UVA grad has talked openly about how he didnt have the grades to get into UVA without lax. The former UVA coach Dom Starsia noted that Zed had a weak academic background and would have to work extra hard to survive at UVA. To Zed's credit he spent the extra time in the classroom even though he had less time to devote to lax. If you are a great player the best schools will help you.

Ivy League schools went test optional last year. I’m pretty sure that HS 2022 recruits to those schools didn’t have to submit test scores to their respective admissions office.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the glamour of playing D1 lacrosse becoming more of a mirage? What's the point of literally sacrificing 4 years of your life in college to be able to play a sport when the team roster size is over 60 players (Denver) and has 15 grad students (Duke)? At least for those teams, most of the players on the roster will probably never get to see the field during their college career.

But the ones that do will have the time of their lives. So why not take the chance?? Imagine if some of the great ones had your attitude. What a shame that would have been.

What does that mean? Time of their lives? Why? The vast majority of players on D-1 rosters in any sport are bench warmers. Their “time of their lives” is practice. Not sure but I will almost guarantee you not only never played collegiate athletics, probably never played a sport period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the glamour of playing D1 lacrosse becoming more of a mirage? What's the point of literally sacrificing 4 years of your life in college to be able to play a sport when the team roster size is over 60 players (Denver) and has 15 grad students (Duke)? At least for those teams, most of the players on the roster will probably never get to see the field during their college career.

But the ones that do will have the time of their lives. So why not take the chance?? Imagine if some of the great ones had your attitude. What a shame that would have been.

What does that mean? Time of their lives? Why? The vast majority of players on D-1 rosters in any sport are bench warmers. Their “time of their lives” is practice. Not sure but I will almost guarantee you not only never played collegiate athletics, probably never played a sport period.

A kids game for the so-called privileged. Careless about their family or kid does in HS and/or college.

You people think you need a certain grade (which of course is lower) for an athlete. It is lower, but it depends on how good you are at your position. If you are one of the best, your scores do NOT matter. And that is a fact

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Okay Tony Robbins, dork,dork dork!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Ok, so let’s look at the logic. 73 schools, of which the top 25 are at a whole different level. So for attack, mid, d, there will be 2 recruits for each position on average. So if you aren’t in the top 50 in your position, and not given an opportunity to go to one of these schools, do you go D1, because it is D1, or do you pick the best academic program, and have a shot At playing for a championship run?

Many 2021 and 22 players who I know who couldn’t break the top 25, decided to go option 2. My son had D1 offers but a few at that 25 mark, but he didn’t see himself at those schools. It’s lacrosse. They will play for 4 years and get a job. There is no money to go pro, so pick the best school. The first showcase we went to Desko told the boys to pick a school like any other student would. Find a school that you like first, and lacrosse second. Outside of the elite players, I think this is solid advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Hey Stunad. Several All County players aren’t going D1 from the 2021 class. They lost their junior year to prove themselves. Go back in your hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Okay Tony Robbins, dork,dork dork!

Wow. I guess someone said something to hurt your feelings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Hey Stunad. Several All County players aren’t going D1 from the 2021 class. They lost their junior year to prove themselves. Go back in your hole.

Please translate this into English. Your inability to correspond in a manner that can be understood is disturbing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Hey Stunad. Several All County players aren’t going D1 from the 2021 class. They lost their junior year to prove themselves. Go back in your hole.

All County means absolutely nothing. There are All County players that cannot even make a top-five Long Island travel team. If a kid is lucky enough to play on a weak high school team he can definitely get All County. Many All County players would not even start on Manhasset, Garden City, Syosset and others. Those great high school programs were only able to produce a handful of Division I players. Even some of their All County players did not make division one. The Division I coaches found those that were able to play at that level and made offers. Stop with the excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Hey Stunad. Several All County players aren’t going D1 from the 2021 class. They lost their junior year to prove themselves. Go back in your hole.

There are ALWAYS all county players who are not playing Division 1. That’s not any different than any other year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Said the Daddy of a 25 year old college lacrosse “student-athlete” 😕

Dude get over it, it's not club or HS. Youre 18 year old just stinks!!

There he is. The Stunad is back!

Sorry the truth hurts.

Hey Stunad. Several All County players aren’t going D1 from the 2021 class. They lost their junior year to prove themselves. Go back in your hole.

There are ALWAYS all county players who are not playing Division 1. That’s not any different than any other year...

As stated the truth hurts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Looser than what?

WEST ISLIP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Looser than what?

Underrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Quoting a guy who bypassed college completely in an effort to prove the merits of playing NCAA lacrosse, and misspelling "lost" in the same quote, simply awesome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Quoting a guy who bypassed college completely in an effort to prove the merits of playing NCAA lacrosse, and misspelling "lost" in the same quote, simply awesome.

There is always a disgruntled mom out there who points out a typo when they know deep down inside that a post applies to her kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “ - Jermaine O’Neil. I say good for those kids who choose to play division one lacrosse. The least successful people in this world are the ones who make safe choices and avoid doing hard things because of fear of failure. If you fear division one because you will not play then make the safe choice and play Division III. If you don’t fear you won’t play then try and play division one. Never let fear of failure dictate your decision.

Quoting a guy who bypassed college completely in an effort to prove the merits of playing NCAA lacrosse, and misspelling "lost" in the same quote, simply awesome.

There is always a disgruntled mom out there who points out a typo when they know deep down inside that a post applies to her kid.

Wow, killer burn dude!

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

Did u just say that despite your son quitting the game that is the focus of this forum, you still are going to post on the forum and call people losers. Oye!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

Did u just say that despite your son quitting the game that is the focus of this forum, you still are going to post on the forum and call people losers. Oye!

For realz, shouldn’t you be posting on (BOTS) Back of The Scrum now!? BYE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

You clowns always fall for the bait!

I am looking to rent a crystal ball from any willing person. A crystal ball allowing me to see into 5-10 years from now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

No one is jealous. Try to keep up, quoting a guy who can barely read on level and has an incredibly suspect reputation as a source of inspiration is pretty lame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

No one is jealous. Try to keep up, quoting a guy who can barely read on level and has an incredibly suspect reputation as a source of inspiration is pretty lame.

I feel bad for you. You are saying that a person who can’t read and did not have the opportunities you had is not worthy of listening to. If you grew up with his education opportunities you would be homeless. Face it, you are jealous of a basketball player who did well financially with no education just as you are jealous of everyone who you perceive as better than you or your kid. Try listening to those who grew up with little education opportunities and did well. You may learn something.

How about this? is that better you 90’s oldies!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

No one is jealous. Try to keep up, quoting a guy who can barely read on level and has an incredibly suspect reputation as a source of inspiration is pretty lame.

I feel bad for you. You are saying that a person who can’t read and did not have the opportunities you had is not worthy of listening to. If you grew up with his education opportunities you would be homeless. Face it, you are jealous of a basketball player who did well financially with no education just as you are jealous of everyone who you perceive as better than you or your kid. Try listening to those who grew up with little education opportunities and did well. You may learn something.

Kind of odd that you assume to know me? You’re a special type of dopey. You should educate yourself on your hero though, those rape allegations are pretty bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

No one is jealous. Try to keep up, quoting a guy who can barely read on level and has an incredibly suspect reputation as a source of inspiration is pretty lame.

I feel bad for you. You are saying that a person who can’t read and did not have the opportunities you had is not worthy of listening to. If you grew up with his education opportunities you would be homeless. Face it, you are jealous of a basketball player who did well financially with no education just as you are jealous of everyone who you perceive as better than you or your kid. Try listening to those who grew up with little education opportunities and did well. You may learn something.

Kind of odd that you assume to know me? You’re a special type of dopey. You should educate yourself on your hero though, those rape allegations are pretty bad.

Your post tell a lot about you. Even if he is the worst person in the world the quote makes sense. He is saying in an indirect way that making choices based on fear is not the way to do it. In life risk equals reward. People who don’t do things because of fear of failure will have less of a chance to be successful. But you advocate to make choices based on fear of failure so I don’t expect you to understand this. So my older kid took a chance and is playing d1 at a top school. You think he will sit on the bench. You don’t know that. You can advise your kid to play d3 because he may sit on the bench at a d1 school. That is your choice. Not your son’s. Read the quote again and see if it now makes sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son switched to Rugby, no crybaby kids and no crybaby parents! Good by losers!

It’s “loosers” come on guy! Spelling is fundamental!

I like the post on here trying to make fun of another person and in doing so quotes the word “looser” and instead writes the word “lost” by accident. Too funny. However, most would rather laugh at those people who come on here and talk bad about a kid who went D1 out of jealousy. That makes us laugh more than a typo.

No one is jealous. Try to keep up, quoting a guy who can barely read on level and has an incredibly suspect reputation as a source of inspiration is pretty lame.

I feel bad for you. You are saying that a person who can’t read and did not have the opportunities you had is not worthy of listening to. If you grew up with his education opportunities you would be homeless. Face it, you are jealous of a basketball player who did well financially with no education just as you are jealous of everyone who you perceive as better than you or your kid. Try listening to those who grew up with little education opportunities and did well. You may learn something.

Kind of odd that you assume to know me? You’re a special type of dopey. You should educate yourself on your hero though, those rape allegations are pretty bad.

Rape allegations? Is that what America is now? We convict on allegations? Those allegations were fully investigated and found to have no merit. Also during the basketball brawl he was not indicted because the fan was attacking him and the district attorney from the city he was visiting determined his actions were justified. This guy was the youngest person ever drafted at the time. People criticized him for not going to college. However Wayne Gretzky did not go to college when he was drafted at a similar age. But he is a hero.It is clear your assessment is based on color which is a disgrace. What this guy has overcome from childhood even until now would 99% of the time result in someone who is a failure. But he succeeded. He was one of the hardest working youth’s playing basketball. While others were hanging out in the street he was practicing and going to the gym since childhood. Got himself out of his terrible childhood situation. Put yourself in his place and wonder where you would have been with the lack of education and bad living environment he had. Just because he is a basketball player does not mean he is a bad guy. Like anyone else he may have made mistakes but you have not pointed to anything where he was found guilty. Remember we have a justice of the Supreme Court who also has allegations against him and he is doing a great job..One last thing. People talk about holdbacks. This guy was drafted as a 17 year old after graduating high school. He never had to hold back like most of the other kids. Would you at least give them credit for that? Probably not. Like I said your assessment is probably based on color. We know exactly what you are.

To change the subject is anyone getting emails from d1 colleges to make sure by September 1 all contact info is updated with the school? Is that normal and can we expect a call? I am thinking mass emails.

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

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let's swap out scrubs for everyday people who do extraordinary heroic things for mankind. They may be wearing sneakers the day they pull someone from a burning car.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

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let's swap out scrubs for everyday people who do extraordinary heroic things for mankind. They may be wearing sneakers the day they pull someone from a burning car.

Pretty sure you missed the whole concept. But whatever, bow down to your gods aka athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

God bless our troops ! 🇺🇸

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

How in the world, can anyone use the word "Hero" in the same sentence containing youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

How in the world, can anyone use the word "Hero" in the same sentence containing youth lacrosse.

Unfortunately there are posters on here who believe professional athletes are heroes because they play a kids game for a lot of money. Heroism is what everyone just witnessed at Kabul Airport not what you watched on ESPN this morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

What in the world is an "elite hero"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

How in the world, can anyone use the word "Hero" in the same sentence containing youth lacrosse.

Unfortunately there are posters on here who believe professional athletes are heroes because they play a kids game for a lot of money. Heroism is what everyone just witnessed at Kabul Airport not what you watched on ESPN this morning.

Thanks! When you’re done on your soapbox, can I borrow it? Need it for my wife so she can reach something on the top shelf of the hall closet. Really annoying that she continues to ask me to grab it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Being former military and very proud of it, I would add that a hero is generally someone who braves the odds and leads the charge to allow others to follow in their footsteps. A few, but certainly not most, athletes fit this description.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Heroes come in all shapes and forms. Many of the elite heroes do wear cleats and scrubs, etc. A hero can come from anywhere

How in the world, can anyone use the word "Hero" in the same sentence containing youth lacrosse.

Unfortunately there are posters on here who believe professional athletes are heroes because they play a kids game for a lot of money. Heroism is what everyone just witnessed at Kabul Airport not what you watched on ESPN this morning.

Thanks! When you’re done on your soapbox, can I borrow it? Need it for my wife so she can reach something on the top shelf of the hall closet. Really annoying that she continues to ask me to grab it.

You’re right, let’s talk about your simp of a lad who’s up in his room crying about not getting All-Conference because of the big bad holdback.

Sounds like the daddy of a big bad holdback

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like the daddy of a big bad holdback

Thanks for confirming, go give princess a hug, tell him it will all be okay! Daddy will make it all better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Being former military and very proud of it, I would add that a hero is generally someone who braves the odds and leads the charge to allow others to follow in their footsteps. A few, but certainly not most, athletes fit this description.

Sure, Ill send it home with her when she is done reaching around me

September 1 is approaching. Let’s just hope that every kid is able to use lacrosse to get into the best college possible that is a good fit. For those younger ones who want to play d1 get on a travel team that your kid will get on the field and has a history of kids getting recruited. There are about five or six club programs on Long Island that together account for over 90 percent of the d1 recruits for the past two years. Those clubs also have had the most success with d2 and D3. All kids should be going to as many showcases and prospect camps as they can. The calls on September 1 will start as early as midnight for many. Parents check your emails, texts and cell phones too. My older guy got some texts and calls on my cell phone for some reason. The calls will also come all day Sept 1 for some and in the days following September 1. So keep checking those texts, emails and missed calls. Make sure your contact info is up to date with all the colleges questionnaires. One last thing. Give every college who calls a chance. I’ve heard way too many stories of people who at the end committed to a program they thought they would never commit to over their first choice when September 1 came around. Keep an open mind. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Being former military and very proud of it, I would add that a hero is generally someone who braves the odds and leads the charge to allow others to follow in their footsteps. A few, but certainly not most, athletes fit this description.

Sure, Ill send it home with her when she is done reaching around me

Pretty sure no one is interested in that. No one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just to be clear, people who wear cleats, skates or sneakers aren’t heroes. Except for the guy who wore #40 for the Arizona Cardinals. Heroes wear scrubs, combat boots, bunker gear and shields on their chest.

Being former military and very proud of it, I would add that a hero is generally someone who braves the odds and leads the charge to allow others to follow in their footsteps. A few, but certainly not most, athletes fit this description.

Sure, Ill send it home with her when she is done reaching around me

Pretty sure you’re quoting the wrong comment thread….but good job anyways 👍

If US Lax and just went by birthyear, the whole holdback problem would simply disappear and the playing field would be equal. That's all anybody is really looking for, a level playing field for their children. If your kid needs an extra year of school or to repeat, no problem but he'll still play with his birth year on the club circuit. HS, no problem, grades are mixed anyway on varsity teams.

There is no logical argument anyone can put forth as to why kids shouldn't play with their birth year (or up if they choose) so those defensive parents resort to taunting and calling everyone a snowflake that raises the issue.

If your kid wants a challenge he can always play up, a lot players do that. People respect it. Playing down absolutely builds resentment. You really can't expect a kid to bridge a 2 or 3 year gap at certain ages in the early teens. A lot of kids quit because of this. The kids resent it too. I have seen and heard it. Bad stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid wants a challenge he can always play up, a lot players do that. People respect it. Playing down absolutely builds resentment. You really can't expect a kid to bridge a 2 or 3 year gap at certain ages in the early teens. A lot of kids quit because of this. The kids resent it too. I have seen and heard it. Bad stuff.

Never heard a kid resent it. Not sure in 15 years involvement in lacrosse. Kids I coached always just played. Parents on the other hand whines and complained incessantly. The kids never cared, not sure where you are from or the HA your associated with, seems like the kids are more concerned with holdbacks than actually playing. Not a good environment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid wants a challenge he can always play up, a lot players do that. People respect it. Playing down absolutely builds resentment. You really can't expect a kid to bridge a 2 or 3 year gap at certain ages in the early teens. A lot of kids quit because of this. The kids resent it too. I have seen and heard it. Bad stuff.

Never heard a kid resent it. Not sure in 15 years involvement in lacrosse. Kids I coached always just played. Parents on the other hand whines and complained incessantly. The kids never cared, not sure where you are from or the HA your associated with, seems like the kids are more concerned with holdbacks than actually playing. Not a good environment.

Holding back is getting more accepted as its being done more and more across the country. It Doesn’t have stigma it used to. People are seeing the advantage in it for those kids doing it. So, if others are going to take advantage and allowed to do it. Why wouldn’t you for your kid? if you can? It’s clearly advantageous and perhaps Will give the kid more recruiting opportunities? Is it fair? Should rules be changed? It’s becoming a “those who can” … will. Why not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If US Lax and just went by birthyear, the whole holdback problem would simply disappear and the playing field would be equal. That's all anybody is really looking for, a level playing field for their children. If your kid needs an extra year of school or to repeat, no problem but he'll still play with his birth year on the club circuit. HS, no problem, grades are mixed anyway on varsity teams.

There is no logical argument anyone can put forth as to why kids shouldn't play with their birth year (or up if they choose) so those defensive parents resort to taunting and calling everyone a snowflake that raises the issue.

US Lacrosse supports age based play - https://www.usalacrosse.com/age-eligibility-guidelines
The people that run for profit teams and tournaments have decided it is not in their interest to be age based. It is annoying but generally works itself over time.

No problem at all with holding your son back, just have him play with his birth year in youth lacrosse. What's the argument against that?

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If US Lax and just went by birthyear, the whole holdback problem would simply disappear and the playing field would be equal. That's all anybody is really looking for, a level playing field for their children. If your kid needs an extra year of school or to repeat, no problem but he'll still play with his birth year on the club circuit. HS, no problem, grades are mixed anyway on varsity teams.

There is no logical argument anyone can put forth as to why kids shouldn't play with their birth year (or up if they choose) so those defensive parents resort to taunting and calling everyone a snowflake that raises the issue.

US Lacrosse supports age based play - https://www.usalacrosse.com/age-eligibility-guidelines
The people that run for profit teams and tournaments have decided it is not in their interest to be age based. It is annoying but generally works itself over time.

The simple solution is to stop playing club ball. Otherwise, it's a pointless argument. Doesn't really affect HS ball though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

I think I am going to hold my son back 2 years and then kick up a loud enough stink that they will let him play with the girls. He should dominate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

I think I am going to hold my son back 2 years and then kick up a loud enough stink that they will let him play with the girls. He should dominate.

Not the point! It’s being done everywhere and question is … does it give kids an advantage and more opportunity to get to the top schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

I think I am going to hold my son back 2 years and then kick up a loud enough stink that they will let him play with the girls. He should dominate.

Not the point! It’s being done everywhere and question is … does it give kids an advantage and more opportunity to get to the top schools?

I could go rob little old ladies at ATMS as well. It would give my kids an advantage because I would be able to pay for the most expensive and best schools in the world. But I don't because I have something called integrity. Google it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

I think I am going to hold my son back 2 years and then kick up a loud enough stink that they will let him play with the girls. He should dominate.

Not the point! It’s being done everywhere and question is … does it give kids an advantage and more opportunity to get to the top schools?

I could go rob little old ladies at ATMS as well. It would give my kids an advantage because I would be able to pay for the most expensive and best schools in the world. But I don't because I have something called integrity. Google it.

Dopey response! Robbing little old ladies is illegal. Google illegal! Also, google what lacrosse players are currently being recruited into the top schools. They didn’t do anything illegal by staying back a year! But, they are getting into the best schools! So, do you think this Is this immoral?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

I think I am going to hold my son back 2 years and then kick up a loud enough stink that they will let him play with the girls. He should dominate.

Not the point! It’s being done everywhere and question is … does it give kids an advantage and more opportunity to get to the top schools?

I could go rob little old ladies at ATMS as well. It would give my kids an advantage because I would be able to pay for the most expensive and best schools in the world. But I don't because I have something called integrity. Google it.

Dopey response! Robbing little old ladies is illegal. Google illegal! Also, google what lacrosse players are currently being recruited into the top schools. They didn’t do anything illegal by staying back a year! But, they are getting into the best schools! So, do you think this Is this immoral?

Keep making excuses for little johnny who can't make it on his own amongst his peers. Hold him back 10 times until he is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

Most do not know when their kid is starting kindergarten what is happening in the older lacrosse world. Makes perfect sense. There is no reason to know what is happening in travel lacrosse when enrolling the kid in kindergarten. So he is saying in kindergarten he did not know kids were holdingback for lacrosse. So a 2021 who is still 17 today could easily have started kindergarten a year later as a holdback and be a 2022. The point made is clear.

holdback means started kindergarten late. Reclassified or reclass means after kindergarten started a new grade which for lacrosse usually happens just before high school but could happen earlier or later.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

Most do not know when their kid is starting kindergarten what is happening in the older lacrosse world. Makes perfect sense. There is no reason to know what is happening in travel lacrosse when enrolling the kid in kindergarten. So he is saying in kindergarten he did not know kids were holdingback for lacrosse. So a 2021 who is still 17 today could easily have started kindergarten a year later as a holdback and be a 2022. The point made is clear.

Lacrosse families know, meaning people who lacrosse is multi generational. They know how to play the lax game very well. I was told when my kid was in 2nd grade about families who do this. They are thinking way ahead! Lax is there life! Don’t you see those families that get their babies lacrosse stick texting toys? I’ve seen it! Lol

I was told MD starts Kindergarten older or has that option? Does anyone know if this is true ? I know it’s not for lacrosse, but just curious?

I feel bad for all those poor non lacrosse kids who are never going to get into those great schools that the holdbacks get to go to exclusively. Why even bother studying to get good marks or playing sports with the kids you grow up with. Shame on those schools for preaching that anybody can get into the best schools. I think when my kids get home today from their first day of school I am going to break the news to them that I am going to move them back to the grade they just finished because their hard work and 95 average is unfortunately only get them to community college. I wonder how they will take it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My older guy is a 2021 and still 17. He is playing for a top division one college program. Had we known that holding back was so common we may have considered it. Probably would not have done it but that is easy to say now that we know the great results he had not holding back. You do what is best for your kid. Holding back has advantages and disadvantages. Clearly many are doing it as my son is by far the youngest of the entering players on his college team. He is also already younger than the 2022 commits. It is the way it is. If your kid not going to hold back or reclass that is probably better for the kid in other ways. You made a great choice not holding back. However never complain about hold backs either. It is not good for your kid to hear any of those complaints from a parent for many reasons. One is you never want to give a built in excuse for not succeeding. Do as you choose to do and don’t complain.

You really had no idea holdbacks was very common? Seriously? How long have you been involved in lacrosse?

Most do not know when their kid is starting kindergarten what is happening in the older lacrosse world. Makes perfect sense. There is no reason to know what is happening in travel lacrosse when enrolling the kid in kindergarten. So he is saying in kindergarten he did not know kids were holdingback for lacrosse. So a 2021 who is still 17 today could easily have started kindergarten a year later as a holdback and be a 2022. The point made is clear.

Lacrosse families know, meaning people who lacrosse is multi generational. They know how to play the lax game very well. I was told when my kid was in 2nd grade about families who do this. They are thinking way ahead! Lax is there life! Don’t you see those families that get their babies lacrosse stick texting toys? I’ve seen it! Lol

I was told MD starts Kindergarten older or has that option? Does anyone know if this is true ? I know it’s not for lacrosse, but just curious?

A 2021 who is 17 would not be a holdback. My daughter is 17, she could have either been a 2021 or a 2022. My choice to have her go 2021.

[quote=Anonymous]I feel bad for all those poor non lacrosse kids who are never going to get into those great schools that the holdbacks get to go to exclusively. Why even bother studying to get good marks or playing sports with the kids you grow up with. Shame on those schools for preaching that anybody can get into the best schools. I think when my kids get home today from their first day of school I am going to break the news to them that I am going to move them back to the grade they just finished because their hard work and 95 average is unfortunately only get them to community college. I wonder how they will take it.[/quote

Ummm, this is a lacrosse forum and we are discussing recruiting as far as lacrosse/sports go. Everyone knows academics is the #1 factor! But, it’s true, some Doors do get opened up to schools that may not have been otherwise a remote chance of getting into with a 95. With the sports card at play, Playing high level in a sport can absolutely help get you into a top school, that you would not otherwise have had a chance at! High grades and all! That’s why you see all the craziness around this. Money and grades are not a guarantee, into that dream school. Or, half these people on here would just buy there way in. That’s why you do see the holdback scenario more. Helps with getting grades up, and extra year getting better in the sport!

It’s high stakes, as meaning getting into that “dream school” . It’s just an extra card in your deck in the recruiting process. Academics is obviously the ace.

Yes. The post says the kid is still 17 graduated in 2021 and playing for a top d1 program. Interesting that the new 2022s are older than this 2021 kid who is still 17. My bet is he will also find some 2023s who are older than him now. It is out of control but at least this kid was one of the few who could have been a legal 2022 but chose to be a a 2021 with a good outcome. The bottom line is everyone will do what they have to do even if it means holding back, reclassify and take a post grad year. In the end getting into the best school possible through lacrosse should be the end game. We don’t like but holding back is still getting kids recruited who could not compete with kids his age. You can’t argue with the results of holding back. It turns an average athlete when playing with kids his age into a d1 athlete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. The post says the kid is still 17 graduated in 2021 and playing for a top d1 program. Interesting that the new 2022s are older than this 2021 kid who is still 17. My bet is he will also find some 2023s who are older than him now. It is out of control but at least this kid was one of the few who could have been a legal 2022 but chose to be a a 2021 with a good outcome. The bottom line is everyone will do what they have to do even if it means holding back, reclassify and take a post grad year. In the end getting into the best school possible through lacrosse should be the end game. We don’t like but holding back is still getting kids recruited who could not compete with kids his age. You can’t argue with the results of holding back. It turns an average athlete when playing with kids his age into a d1 athlete.

Guys seriously with the holdback in college silliness. Look at Football and basketball, if the lacrosse players can't hang with the college holdbacks then they don't belong there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. The post says the kid is still 17 graduated in 2021 and playing for a top d1 program. Interesting that the new 2022s are older than this 2021 kid who is still 17. My bet is he will also find some 2023s who are older than him now. It is out of control but at least this kid was one of the few who could have been a legal 2022 but chose to be a a 2021 with a good outcome. The bottom line is everyone will do what they have to do even if it means holding back, reclassify and take a post grad year. In the end getting into the best school possible through lacrosse should be the end game. We don’t like but holding back is still getting kids recruited who could not compete with kids his age. You can’t argue with the results of holding back. It turns an average athlete when playing with kids his age into a d1 athlete.

Guys seriously with the holdback in college silliness. Look at Football and basketball, if the lacrosse players can't hang with the college holdbacks then they don't belong there.

I think everyone agrees with you on that. Obviously if you can’t play against all the kids you do not belong in division one. I think the point people are trying to make is that those that get into division one get there solely based on being older and not being more talented. Clearly holding back turns an average on age athlete into a much better player. Holding back two years turns them into a superstar. I say do it ever is best for your kid and get in the best school possible so long as it is a good fit and you can live with the consequences.

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Great 10th graders who are actually 12th grade age, Do seem to shine a little more as they had 2 extra years of polishing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Great 10th graders who are actually 12th grade age, Do seem to shine a little more as they had 2 extra years of polishing!

Very few and far in between, very few. Especially in LI publics, there are way less than anyone on here wants to admit. Maybe 1 per team, a big maybe, and the one who is would be a grade ahead. Not two

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Great 10th graders who are actually 12th grade age, Do seem to shine a little more as they had 2 extra years of polishing!

Very few and far in between, very few. Especially in LI publics, there are way less than anyone on here wants to admit. Maybe 1 per team, a big maybe, and the one who is would be a grade ahead. Not two

We can argue the holdback situation until we are blue in the face. It here and there is nothing US Lacrosse will do about it. That being said, starting your kid late is the best way to help your kid be a stud. He will be a year older in the younger ages, which will make him physically stronger and faster than the other kids. He will then get on that 2nd grade AA team with the best coaches. Then he repeats 6th grade and he is now 2 years older and is on varsity as an 8th or 9th grader. Then he gets recruited to a top D1 school and your dream is fullfilled as he sits the bench,,,

Aged based club play, like soccer, basketball, football and hockey (i'm not in the baseball world, so I don't know) IS coming and it is the right thing to do. You will still be able to gain your advantage in the school system, but evalauators will see talent for what it is in the club system and the playing field will be leveled. The gig is up. AMEN. Birth year by '23. From a reliable source involved in the rule making. We'll see how good and big YOUR little holdback Johnny is real soon!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Aged based club play, like soccer, basketball, football and hockey (i'm not in the baseball world, so I don't know) IS coming and it is the right thing to do. You will still be able to gain your advantage in the school system, but evalauators will see talent for what it is in the club system and the playing field will be leveled. The gig is up. AMEN. Birth year by '23. From a reliable source involved in the rule making. We'll see how good and big YOUR little holdback Johnny is real soon!

First off, this is a 15-year old argument, it's not changing until people stop playing club. Secondly, who in the world are you replying to? Stop being so angry replying to anonymous posters. Bad look dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Great 10th graders who are actually 12th grade age, Do seem to shine a little more as they had 2 extra years of polishing!

Very few and far in between, very few. Especially in LI publics, there are way less than anyone on here wants to admit. Maybe 1 per team, a big maybe, and the one who is would be a grade ahead. Not two

We can argue the holdback situation until we are blue in the face. It here and there is nothing US Lacrosse will do about it. That being said, starting your kid late is the best way to help your kid be a stud. He will be a year older in the younger ages, which will make him physically stronger and faster than the other kids. He will then get on that 2nd grade AA team with the best coaches. Then he repeats 6th grade and he is now 2 years older and is on varsity as an 8th or 9th grader. Then he gets recruited to a top D1 school and your dream is fullfilled as he sits the bench,,,

No argument, the problem is just not as prevalent as the posters on here make it. There MAY be one kid per HS team, and I truly don't think it's even close to that number. I had two kids who played lacrosse for a very large and very successful HS lacrosse program in Nassau and in all those years, there was one kid who was one year older than his teammates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, hit the nail on the head. It’s the path getting to the Div. 1 schools. Not about hanging when you get there. Need the opportunities to get there. It’s about the earlier days like 6/7/8th grade and not getting left behind. A 6/7th grader playing boys who birth year is a 8/9th grader can be a big difference. Not talking about college age guys. Not to mention the other kid not only has size advantage on 7/8 th grade, but an extra 1 to 2 years skill development as well. Who’s getting picked for top club team and varsity in 9/10t? Which leads to better chances to get to D1

By 10th grade you either know where you stand as far as talent. Great 10th graders, regardless of age are going to shine and compete with seniors. Been that way forever. I think the problem is parents who don’t want to see their kids shortcomings blame it all on holdbacks.

Great 10th graders who are actually 12th grade age, Do seem to shine a little more as they had 2 extra years of polishing!

Very few and far in between, very few. Especially in LI publics, there are way less than anyone on here wants to admit. Maybe 1 per team, a big maybe, and the one who is would be a grade ahead. Not two

We can argue the holdback situation until we are blue in the face. It here and there is nothing US Lacrosse will do about it. That being said, starting your kid late is the best way to help your kid be a stud. He will be a year older in the younger ages, which will make him physically stronger and faster than the other kids. He will then get on that 2nd grade AA team with the best coaches. Then he repeats 6th grade and he is now 2 years older and is on varsity as an 8th or 9th grader. Then he gets recruited to a top D1 school and your dream is fulfilled as he sits the bench,,,

Wait....but if everyone starts doing this then my kid might not be a stud. I will start him 1 year late, then hold back in 6th grade. then hold back again in HS and then transfer to a prep school for a PG year. Now my 22 year old Freshman will be an All American in College!!

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

[quote=Anonymous]Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405[/quote

The reality as to where Lacrosse is going right there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

The September through December 04 birthdays don’t bother me. Those kids are on age for their grades in most states. The September 03 is Crazy but this is the new normal. I believe it is only the beginning. This trend will get worse each year. Everyone will be trying to keep up with the Jones.

Yes I don’t understand it. Majority are reclass. One kid would have been a top recruit last year, but is now a top 5. I guess it’s worth it, but my son said he would never do it because it feels like cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Wow! Looks like he knows how to work the system. But, couldn’t do it, if he was not super talented!!. So, good for him! He’s Not breaking any rules. Sounds like he Just figured it out as to how to get the most out of his opportunities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

So, this definitely makes it unfair advantages to those that can actually afford this type of scenario! Rich kids definitely get unfair advantages and opportunities in this sport. Once again… this starts from the younger ages as well. holdbacks do have advantages that seem a bit unfair and elitist. Sad but true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

So, this definitely makes it unfair advantages to those that can actually afford this type of scenario! Rich kids definitely get unfair advantages and opportunities in this sport. Once again… this starts from the younger ages as well. holdbacks do have advantages that seem a bit unfair and elitist. Sad but true

Focus your concern with your own kid. Wasting time and effort relating to somone else kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405[/quote

The reality as to where Lacrosse is going right there

Many hurt ego's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

So, this definitely makes it unfair advantages to those that can actually afford this type of scenario! Rich kids definitely get unfair advantages and opportunities in this sport. Once again… this starts from the younger ages as well. holdbacks do have advantages that seem a bit unfair and elitist. Sad but true

Focus your concern with your own kid. Wasting time and effort relating to somone else kid.

This has nothing to do with any kid. It’s a commentary on the sport itself. It’s an elitist sport, and with the holdback situation it only makes it more so.

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

This is an absolutely ridiculous comment. So he’s an average player but is a superstar because he delayed? Please stop the silliness, these are great lacrosse players, regardless. You’re trying to make yourself feel better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

40-50 years ago lacrosse was considered the sport of the privileged. That’s because the game was only played at prep schools. Fast forward 40 years and the sport is still the sport of the privileged, but for a different reason: The money grab known as youth sports. Club lacrosse to be so specific. Pay to play. Pay 7K per year just for your basic club and local travel. Cha Ching. Throw in specialized training. Cha Ching. Showcases and more hotels. Cha Ching. All star events, hotel and travel. Cha Ching. Off season tournies and more showcases and air fare. Cha Ching. Prep schools. Cha Ching. How about an added year at prep school for all you hold back lovers. CHA CHING. and if you choose not to do any of this, your son is left behind. Lacrosse: More now than ever, the sport of the ultra privileged. Quite disgusting, actually.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Majority of people can’t afford what you’re writing. What’s your silly point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Kids play this sport to have better opportunities to get into better schools than they may have with just good grades! So, this is not a dead end sport! It truly dies open doors. It offers great opportunities on getting into a better school, where you may get “connections” and the education to get that dream job!

So. Making it more fair to more kids on the way up (youth) is truly in the best interest of all the kids and the sport!! Right now, 10% have unfair advantages and opportunities due to their financial standings. Once again, it makes it elitist! Let’s do the right thing and make it “on age” at the youth levels! Make it more fair and give the other 90% of the kids playing the same opportunity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

US Lacrosse should change the rules and make determinations about age based. They make World Series and Nationals age based now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

This is an absolutely ridiculous comment. So he’s an average player but is a superstar because he delayed? Please stop the silliness, these are great lacrosse players, regardless. You’re trying to make yourself feel better

It makes sense. He would be an average player if he was playing against kids his age in the 2021 group but he becomes a superstar playing against the 2023s. Why hold back or re-class if you can also dominate against the older kids? Obviously you hold back or re-class to gain a competitive advantage that you would not have against kids your own age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

This is an absolutely ridiculous comment. So he’s an average player but is a superstar because he delayed? Please stop the silliness, these are great lacrosse players, regardless. You’re trying to make yourself feel better

It makes sense. He would be an average player if he was playing against kids his age in the 2021 group but he becomes a superstar playing against the 2023s. Why hold back or re-class if you can also dominate against the older kids? Obviously you hold back or re-class to gain a competitive advantage that you would not have against kids your own age.

You know nothing about sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top player rankings for 2023. Birthdays included.. Out of the top 16 boys only three were born in 2005. Rest in 2004 (meaning they are all 17 years old entering their junior year and some will turn 18 by the time the season starts). And one kid is a 2003 (will be 18 in a month).

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

And the common theme is every kid pretty much plays for a private school. This is not a problem on Long Island. It’s also never going away until club ball is gone.

The 2003 kid already committed to Princeton and is graduating from HS this year. He’s taking a year off so they are considering him a 23. Probably not a bad decision so he can get more play time once at Princeton instead of being penalized from the Covid delays and 5th year!

Many times an Ivy or top program will tell a kid to delay graduating or to do a post grad year because there is no spot for them given the current roster. As a 2021 he would not be attending Princeton, would not be a top player and would mix in with hundreds of other kids trying to get those few top d1 spots. Holding back turns a good to average athlete when playing proper age into a superstar.

This is an absolutely ridiculous comment. So he’s an average player but is a superstar because he delayed? Please stop the silliness, these are great lacrosse players, regardless. You’re trying to make yourself feel better

It makes sense. He would be an average player if he was playing against kids his age in the 2021 group but he becomes a superstar playing against the 2023s. Why hold back or re-class if you can also dominate against the older kids? Obviously you hold back or re-class to gain a competitive advantage that you would not have against kids your own age.

Either you’re an elite athlete or you’re not. One year or two doesn’t make you elite. Maybe better but not great. Stop trying to make your sons shortcomings more than just that, you’re embarrassing yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is nothing wrong with holdbacks/colleges delaying entry so that a kid will play college at age 20-24. The problem is not playing on-age in youth lacrosse. For the equivalent of 9th grade and below it should be based on birth year. After that, the elite players can go into a "junior" system, while the rest can still play on age. This is how I would set it up at least. For instance, this past summer I would have had a 2006 division, 2007 division, etc. Within such, I would have AA, A, B or whatever makes sense. Kids can always play up (a 2008 can play with the 2007s if that is what the parents and the team wants). For 2005 and higher, the best will be on a junior team at junior events playing with and against kids up through 2002. For kids not at that level of skill/athleticism - there can exist continued birth year divisions. Obviously, college scouting (at least for D1) will be at the junior events.

There is no sense in trying to fix anything. Just do what you think gives your son the best opportunities.

You’re totally missing the point, DA. What if someone can’t afford to send their kid to prep school for 5 years. That’s 350K. Or pay 10K per year for lacrosse. How do I give him your “ best opportunities” without your truckloads of cash?? How is that inner city kid with all that naturally talent and zero means going to fit into that model??

Regarding your system, who will make these determinations regarding all the particulars. Just remember, lacrosse is a dead-end sport. Enjoy the time playing, find a school for your kid which offers a career field he can pursue afterward. All this posturing, leveraging makes no sense to me.

Kids play this sport to have better opportunities to get into better schools than they may have with just good grades! So, this is not a dead end sport! It truly dies open doors. It offers great opportunities on getting into a better school, where you may get “connections” and the education to get that dream job!

So. Making it more fair to more kids on the way up (youth) is truly in the best interest of all the kids and the sport!! Right now, 10% have unfair advantages and opportunities due to their financial standings. Once again, it makes it elitist! Let’s do the right thing and make it “on age” at the youth levels! Make it more fair and give the other 90% of the kids playing the same opportunity!

Kids play because the love the game. Parents are the only ones thinking about the nonsense you’re spouting.

You will never convince a holdback parent that the little superstar would not have the same success if playing against kids the same age. Don’t even bother. People are just pointing out the obvious and the holdback parents having no response will come back with insults and wrong assumptions about people on here that they don’t even know. If you want to holdback your kid to get an advantage that is fine but don’t be mad when people always say “ but he is older”. The fact is he is older and people will always point that out because it is true.

One thing people are not taking into consideration about "hold backs" is that some of the prep schools are approaching the kids at tournaments. If the school is willing to make it financially available for your child to attend and excel at academics and lacrosse then why not. The boys are in high school and play all different grades, it would be the same if they went straight to college and started as a freshman...They are still playing boys much older and stronger.

The holdback thing is just a sign of the times. How many top college kids wrote their college essays...on their own? We live in an age of intense helicopter parenting. For parents that are very into their kids, the sky is the limit. Hold back, summer studies at Harvard or Stanford in the 8th grade, black belt in karate by 4th grade, concert pianist by middle school, SAT tutors, etc. What separates the men from the boys, if such a term can be used nowadays, is when the kid has the talent and drive. You can push a kid all you want, if the talent and drive aren't there, he can play at some level of his craft, but not at the top level. You can fool a lot of coaches and once in awhile you'll see a kid make a top team he shouldn't have made, but eventually that gets figured out. Let's just say many of these college coaches aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Enjoy the ride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing people are not taking into consideration about "hold backs" is that some of the prep schools are approaching the kids at tournaments. If the school is willing to make it financially available for your child to attend and excel at academics and lacrosse then why not. The boys are in high school and play all different grades, it would be the same if they went straight to college and started as a freshman...They are still playing boys much older and stronger.

Your example is different from a kid who is always the oldest. He gets an advantage playing club when the colleges are watching being the oldest. Play it out. A kid holds back for a reason. Usually to get an advantage because the parent does not like how the kid competes with kids his own age. So the kid reclass and now playing club against younger kids and now excels. If he does not excel enough he drops back two years. This does not make the kid a great player. He is just older. Now you have a 20 year old freshman in college. If as argued the kid is great playing against any age one would expect that the older kid would dominate as a 20 year old freshman just as he did his senior year of high school and last year of club when he was by far the oldest. However most hold back freshman do not start and certainty do not dominate as a freshman. Being a 20 year old freshman which is the age of a junior he should have junior player stats as they are at their peak. However most hold backs do not even play freshman or sophomore year. Remember most hold backs as juniors in college still can't get on the field. So you have the majority of hold backs who dominated club and high school ball playing as the oldest and can't get on the field in college playing kids their own age. Now some do excel from freshman year and every year in college. But that is the exception. Most hold backs do not dominate playing kids their own age as they did when they were the oldest playing club. This compels the conclusion that the kid was great because he was older. I don't blame kids for holding back. If you can go from being low d1 or not being able to play d1 at all competing at the correct age and holding back means getting into an ivy league or a top school that is better than some ivies it is tough to pass up. If everyone was willing to hold back there would be no advantage. The hold back parents know this and make there kids better by holding back. Some choose not to hold back. We do what is best for our kid and should not care what others say.

It also comes down to financial means! One can only choose the advantageous situation if one can afford it. That’s what makes this the problem. Most can not afford the private school “hold back “ scenario. So, it benefits the few who can. Is this “rich get richer” scenario?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing people are not taking into consideration about "hold backs" is that some of the prep schools are approaching the kids at tournaments. If the school is willing to make it financially available for your child to attend and excel at academics and lacrosse then why not. The boys are in high school and play all different grades, it would be the same if they went straight to college and started as a freshman...They are still playing boys much older and stronger.

Your example is different from a kid who is always the oldest. He gets an advantage playing club when the colleges are watching being the oldest. Play it out. A kid holds back for a reason. Usually to get an advantage because the parent does not like how the kid competes with kids his own age. So the kid reclass and now playing club against younger kids and now excels. If he does not excel enough he drops back two years. This does not make the kid a great player. He is just older. Now you have a 20 year old freshman in college. If as argued the kid is great playing against any age one would expect that the older kid would dominate as a 20 year old freshman just as he did his senior year of high school and last year of club when he was by far the oldest. However most hold back freshman do not start and certainty do not dominate as a freshman. Being a 20 year old freshman which is the age of a junior he should have junior player stats as they are at their peak. However most hold backs do not even play freshman or sophomore year. Remember most hold backs as juniors in college still can't get on the field. So you have the majority of hold backs who dominated club and high school ball playing as the oldest and can't get on the field in college playing kids their own age. Now some do excel from freshman year and every year in college. But that is the exception. Most hold backs do not dominate playing kids their own age as they did when they were the oldest playing club. This compels the conclusion that the kid was great because he was older. I don't blame kids for holding back. If you can go from being low d1 or not being able to play d1 at all competing at the correct age and holding back means getting into an ivy league or a top school that is better than some ivies it is tough to pass up. If everyone was willing to hold back there would be no advantage. The hold back parents know this and make there kids better by holding back. Some choose not to hold back. We do what is best for our kid and should not care what others say.

Dude, do some research please, you are writing nothing more than your opinion, and it is completely wrong.

The only real time holdbacks is a problem for kids is pre 8th grade. A year difference is huge between 6 and 12 or 13. in HS, who really cares, but at the youth level it should be addressed.

Research was done. Top players who graduate college who were held back make 350 a week working summer lax camps. Top players who graduated when they were actually supposed to, working those same camps make 320 a week. I’m so holding my kid back. I think it’s worth it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Research was done. Top players who graduate college who were held back make 350 a week working summer lax camps. Top players who graduated when they were actually supposed to, working those same camps make 320 a week. I’m so holding my kid back. I think it’s worth it.

Still missing the point! It’s about opportunity in getting into a better college for better opportunities than you could without the sport ! It’s Not about the Lacrosse!

Looking for a person / kid / company to do a highlight video ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a person / kid / company to do a highlight video ?

you can use Hudl..

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Imagine if Tonya Harding could have had a jury of holdback parents judging her. Anything to get the advantage is acceptable. Good job and good luck on your future olympic quest!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

The only people who care are us. Anyone outside lax, careless about a kid being held back for whatever reason, let alone lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

I don’t think we should be criticizing the holdbacks, and/or parents. They are not breaking any rules or cheating. However, the rules do seem to create unfair opportunity and advantages to some, that are able to afford to take advantage of them. The rules need to be changed.

We should be criticizing the people/organization who make the rules for youth lacrosse. We need to Send the message to them. I think people who are complaining on here, hope somebody who has influence reads BOTC? 😆

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Not much difference between college and pro lacrosse now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Rutgers is a decent school and seems to be getting much better in lacrosse but to do a PG year to go there seems insane. There are a lot of similar academic schools out there where if you can make Rutgers you could probably start at the better academic school. They do very well in the academic ratings for US news who gives a lot of points for diversity of the school but does not do very well in other rankings that looks at student outcome and salary. To do a PG year you should probably be looking at a top 30 academic school where there are only a few options for a better academic opportunity. There are too many similar schools to Rutgers to justify doing a PG year. But lacrosse parents probably Will go for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Rutgers is a decent school and seems to be getting much better in lacrosse but to do a PG year to go there seems insane. There are a lot of similar academic schools out there where if you can make Rutgers you could probably start at the better academic school. They do very well in the academic ratings for US news who gives a lot of points for diversity of the school but does not do very well in other rankings that looks at student outcome and salary. To do a PG year you should probably be looking at a top 30 academic school where there are only a few options for a better academic opportunity. There are too many similar schools to Rutgers to justify doing a PG year. But lacrosse parents probably Will go for it.

Rutgers only ranks high on many college ranking reports because of their high level of diversity. Tons of better options out there to do a PG year for Rutgers. If there really is 15 5th year players, that would field the entire team and leave many with minimal playing time. If they are transferring as a 5th year, they will definitely be receiving more playing time than the younger players.

According to a previous poster, players with Jermaine O’Neill’s
mentality don’t think that way (about playing time).

“ You never think about not playing. You just don’t think about that. But if you do you are a looser. “

Rutgers 2022 men's lacrosse roster

28 seniors including 15 5th year players including transfers from Wesleyan, Bucknell, Salisbury, Yale, Lehigh, Providence, Penn, and MSM

https://scarletknights.com/sports/mens-lacrosse/roster/2022?&sort=class

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

Bottom line, the problem just isn’t that prevalent. The holdback kids who are getting spots at Duke, UNC and ND would be there regardless. The parent who is complaining, there kid was never ever an option.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

Bottom line, the problem just isn’t that prevalent. The holdback kids who are getting spots at Duke, UNC and ND would be there regardless. The parent who is complaining, there kid was never ever an option.

Why hold back if they have the same results not holding back? You know that holding back gets kids in better schools. So stop. Also not all parents complain because their kid can’t make it into a top school. You know that too. Some are Disgusted with people who take short cuts and will never respect a hold back because they think it is better to work hard and not take the easy way out. Either way who cares what people think. If what people are saying about hold backs bothers a hold back parent then maybe what they are saying has some truth. A kid can hold back and get into a top school but don’t think that everybody is going to respect them and praise them. That is OK. A parent should not need anyone else’s praise if you are a holdback parent. Do what you have to do for your kid. Either hold back or don’t. It will always be a topic to discuss.

Anyone else surprised at the low number of commitments? I wonder what is a bigger factor, the 5-year seniors meaning, less signing in total, or covid delaying the evaluations for '23s and it will just take a few more months...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Rutgers is a decent school and seems to be getting much better in lacrosse but to do a PG year to go there seems insane. There are a lot of similar academic schools out there where if you can make Rutgers you could probably start at the better academic school. They do very well in the academic ratings for US news who gives a lot of points for diversity of the school but does not do very well in other rankings that looks at student outcome and salary. To do a PG year you should probably be looking at a top 30 academic school where there are only a few options for a better academic opportunity. There are too many similar schools to Rutgers to justify doing a PG year. But lacrosse parents probably Will go for it.

If you would not want your kid to go to Rutgers, why do you care how many 5th year players they have? It seems bizarre that you appear to concern yourself with the decisions of other people.

Aren't the 5th year college lacrosse players essentially the same thing as the holdbacks on club/HS lacrosse teams? But unlike holdbacks, the 5th year college lacrosse player is DEFINITELY taking a younger player's roster spot as well as taking away some younger teammates' playing time and scholarship money.

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Rutgers is a decent school and seems to be getting much better in lacrosse but to do a PG year to go there seems insane. There are a lot of similar academic schools out there where if you can make Rutgers you could probably start at the better academic school. They do very well in the academic ratings for US news who gives a lot of points for diversity of the school but does not do very well in other rankings that looks at student outcome and salary. To do a PG year you should probably be looking at a top 30 academic school where there are only a few options for a better academic opportunity. There are too many similar schools to Rutgers to justify doing a PG year. But lacrosse parents probably Will go for it.

If you would not want your kid to go to Rutgers, why do you care how many 5th year players they have? It seems bizarre that you appear to concern yourself with the decisions of other people.

Most should not hold back to go to a school like Rutgers. If you hold back and wind up at Rutgers it is a total fail. Holding back for a top school is worth it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sign of the times. It looks like Rutgers has 15 5th year players on their 2022 roster.

Crazy. They also asked their 2021’s to Do a PG year somewhere. Welcome to the new normal.

Rutgers is a decent school and seems to be getting much better in lacrosse but to do a PG year to go there seems insane. There are a lot of similar academic schools out there where if you can make Rutgers you could probably start at the better academic school. They do very well in the academic ratings for US news who gives a lot of points for diversity of the school but does not do very well in other rankings that looks at student outcome and salary. To do a PG year you should probably be looking at a top 30 academic school where there are only a few options for a better academic opportunity. There are too many similar schools to Rutgers to justify doing a PG year. But lacrosse parents probably Will go for it.

If you would not want your kid to go to Rutgers, why do you care how many 5th year players they have? It seems bizarre that you appear to concern yourself with the decisions of other people.

Most should not hold back to go to a school like Rutgers. If you hold back and wind up at Rutgers it is a total fail. Holding back for a top school is worth it.

Completely agree with this statement!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

Also hearing some very good news out of USL. But it will be a 2 year transition to birth year groupings. Gonna be fun to see where these kids end up in 2023 when they have to play on age. Can’t wait to see teams realign and it all shake out in the next few years!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

Bottom line, the problem just isn’t that prevalent. The holdback kids who are getting spots at Duke, UNC and ND would be there regardless. The parent who is complaining, there kid was never ever an option.

Why hold back if they have the same results not holding back? You know that holding back gets kids in better schools. So stop. Also not all parents complain because their kid can’t make it into a top school. You know that too. Some are Disgusted with people who take short cuts and will never respect a hold back because they think it is better to work hard and not take the easy way out. Either way who cares what people think. If what people are saying about hold backs bothers a hold back parent then maybe what they are saying has some truth. A kid can hold back and get into a top school but don’t think that everybody is going to respect them and praise them. That is OK. A parent should not need anyone else’s praise if you are a holdback parent. Do what you have to do for your kid. Either hold back or don’t. It will always be a topic to discuss.

ironically, you care what people think, that's why you're on here. People disgusted with others people's choices? That's what it's about? So if I'm disgusted about who you voted for or your decision to get vaccinated or abortion rights or immigration I'm morally superior? Holding back does in fact get kids into good schools, schools they would have gotten into regardless, unfortunately the most vociferous parents, such as yourself, think that spot should have gone to their son. If he's at a low-level D-1, a D-2 or D-3, it's because he was never going to UNC or Duke. But keep lying to yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also hearing some very good news out of USL. But it will be a 2 year transition to birth year groupings. Gonna be fun to see where these kids end up in 2023 when they have to play on age. Can’t wait to see teams realign and it all shake out in the next few years!

Can almost guarantee those same kids, who are going to end up at top ACC and Big ten and Ivy schools are going to dominate. The myth that they are only great because of holdback is ridiculous.

I've been following club lacrosse for almost 10 years and this argument has been going on the entire time. Almost every kid outside of NY is a year older than the NY club teams. I sent my son to a New England prep school and he repeated 9th grade as he had a late-ish birthdate and the coach at that school said he wouldn't take him as a direct grade transfer. It was one of the best decisions we could've made and he is very prepared for college, academically, physically and maturity-wise. Of his incoming freshman college recruiting class, which is at a top 10 ranked program, 11 out of the 12 kids would fall under the NY definition of being a "holdback". Almost every single athlete at NE boarding schools is a full year older than NY public schools and in some cases, two years older. This issue will never go away and the reality is that college coaches don't care. Look at Connor Shellenberger who is at UVA. He went to two different private schools and then redshirted his freshman year, and then became a first team AA as a freshman. Public school kids in NY are at a clear disadvantage vs. other states where it is super easy to reclass at the private schools. The NE boarding schools all have strong financial aid programs so even if you don't have the financial resources to pursue a PG year there are options to help pay for it. If your son is a NY public school kid I would highly recommend a PG year if they want to play top level college lacrosse, there's virtually zero downside risk to doing it. At the younger ages it's definitely a safety issue but once you reach high school it's not that big of a deal in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

In my opinion, as someone who coached youth sports for many years, the holdbacks are not a problem for the talented kids but are the problem for a kid who isn't that talented yet but loves the sport. That kid who maybe this is his first year playing lacrosse and he goes out and plays a team with several holdbacks. Forgot about getting blown out because of the holdbacks but maybe gets knocked around by a kid who has 6 inches and 30 pounds on him because he is a year or 2 older. Those kids unfortunately say forget this, i'll go back to soccer, basketball etc where at least I'm playing kids my own age instead of the kids driving to the games. Most towns starting at the PAL level can maybe field one team per age group. Some towns are bigger and can field multiple teams. For some towns losing those 1,2,3,4 players can be the difference between having a PAL team for an age group and not having one. Can ruin the lacrosse experience for many kids. All because some lost parents want their 15 year old to beat up on 13 year olds. My kid is in high school now and is pretty good and loves lacrosse. Every time I come home from a club lacrosse event I feel the need to take a shower to get the filth of the whole US lacrosse landscape off me. Maybe I'm just old fashioned and remember the pride of being asked to play up with the older kids when I was young. With youth lacrosse in America instead of reach for the top its swim to the bottom to be successful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

Bottom line, the problem just isn’t that prevalent. The holdback kids who are getting spots at Duke, UNC and ND would be there regardless. The parent who is complaining, there kid was never ever an option.

Why hold back if they have the same results not holding back? You know that holding back gets kids in better schools. So stop. Also not all parents complain because their kid can’t make it into a top school. You know that too. Some are Disgusted with people who take short cuts and will never respect a hold back because they think it is better to work hard and not take the easy way out. Either way who cares what people think. If what people are saying about hold backs bothers a hold back parent then maybe what they are saying has some truth. A kid can hold back and get into a top school but don’t think that everybody is going to respect them and praise them. That is OK. A parent should not need anyone else’s praise if you are a holdback parent. Do what you have to do for your kid. Either hold back or don’t. It will always be a topic to discuss.

ironically, you care what people think, that's why you're on here. People disgusted with others people's choices? That's what it's about? So if I'm disgusted about who you voted for or your decision to get vaccinated or abortion rights or immigration I'm morally superior? Holding back does in fact get kids into good schools, schools they would have gotten into regardless, unfortunately the most vociferous parents, such as yourself, think that spot should have gone to their son. If he's at a low-level D-1, a D-2 or D-3, it's because he was never going to UNC or Duke. But keep lying to yourself.

If you only knew how wrong you are. I feel bad for your son. You get angry so easy. It is funny. Keep talking. We all need a laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is obvious that each person posting has strong opinions on the hold back issue. These discussions will not change anyone's opinions and show one side is wrong and the other correct and talking about it here is not meant to change anyone's opinions. I think we all know that. I think the people who post here on this issue can be split into a few categories. There are some who criticize hold backs because those hold backs in those parent's minds took their kid's spot on a d1 college roster, they got less money from a college, did not make a club team, they are making excuses for their own kid's short comings etc. There are also people who dislike hold backs, even though the hold backs have no impact on their own kid, because they feel that it is a cowards way to get better and instead of working hard to be the best they decided to take the easy way and improve by holding back. This a disgrace to some people especially those parents who were athletes themselves, their kid is a great athlete playing the proper age or both. On the other side there are parents who hold a kid back to get a competitive advantage because the kid is not doing as well lacrosse wise as those parents would like playing with kids the same age. There are also parents who hold a kid back for academic, social or other legitimate reason not associated with lacrosse. All those people posting here on this issue know which category they fall under that makes them feel so strong on this issue. Be honest with yourself on which category you fall in. If you are honest with yourself you will be able to understand the other sides position much better than you do now. If you are not honest with yourself you will never understand the other sides position and you will continue being delusional like most parents out there.

Problem is, parents think their kids are way better than they actually are. Therefore when Junior doesn’t get All County and a spot on the Duke roster they blame holdbacks, but it’s just the kids lacrosse ability holding him back.

You are correct there are some who criticize holdbacks because they think their kid got cheated by an older kid. But there are also many who dislike holdbacks because the parents believe that holdbacks took the easy way out and got better by holding back by making themselves older rather than working hard to succeed. I don’t think you can say all parents who criticize holdbacks do it for the same reasons. I think probably more do it because they believe the hold back is taking a short cut to get better. Also many believe it is a form of cheating even though under the current rules it is not cheating.There certainly is no one size fits all universal answer to explain everyone’s motive for criticizing holdbacks.

Bottom line, the problem just isn’t that prevalent. The holdback kids who are getting spots at Duke, UNC and ND would be there regardless. The parent who is complaining, there kid was never ever an option.

Why hold back if they have the same results not holding back? You know that holding back gets kids in better schools. So stop. Also not all parents complain because their kid can’t make it into a top school. You know that too. Some are Disgusted with people who take short cuts and will never respect a hold back because they think it is better to work hard and not take the easy way out. Either way who cares what people think. If what people are saying about hold backs bothers a hold back parent then maybe what they are saying has some truth. A kid can hold back and get into a top school but don’t think that everybody is going to respect them and praise them. That is OK. A parent should not need anyone else’s praise if you are a holdback parent. Do what you have to do for your kid. Either hold back or don’t. It will always be a topic to discuss.

ironically, you care what people think, that's why you're on here. People disgusted with others people's choices? That's what it's about? So if I'm disgusted about who you voted for or your decision to get vaccinated or abortion rights or immigration I'm morally superior? Holding back does in fact get kids into good schools, schools they would have gotten into regardless, unfortunately the most vociferous parents, such as yourself, think that spot should have gone to their son. If he's at a low-level D-1, a D-2 or D-3, it's because he was never going to UNC or Duke. But keep lying to yourself.

People need to calm down and play this out logically in their mind. There is a difference between the best school and the best fit. I know for a fact that UNC offers spots on the team to kids with absolutely worthless majors. If you would like to be a journalist major go to UNC. Sometimes the best school does not necessarily turn into the best fit. If you take a look at some of the graduates of lacrosse players who went to the Ivy league or other top level schools many times the outcome after graduation is not so great. Sometimes a kid who goes to a lesser ranked school that is a better fit has a better outcome after graduation. I know it is very hard to pass up an Ivy League or top school but sometimes you must because it is a bad fit. My oldest, who was accepted into two Ivy league schools on grades and not sports, chose a top 20 academic school instead because it was a much better fit. Did not go to the Ivy league school. I believe it would have been miserable going there. For other people the ivy league and similar type schools are a great fit. My middle one was offered coincidently a lacrosse spot for the same two Ivy League schools. He chose to go to an almost top academic school, which was not in the top 20, but was considered a top school for his major. Both kids are doing extremely well. Fit is the most important thing to consider. I agree 100% there are many more opportunities for kids who graduate from the Ivy league or similar schools like Duke. However, I see so many people go to a school like Hopkins or Duke just to be miserable and not have such a great outcome after graduation. Do your homework and don’t get so caught up in the name of the school. Sometimes those top schools are not the best fit and the kid winds up miserable and with an awful result after graduation because the school was not a great fit. Also try not to be so angry with this open discussion. Both sides have a good points and everybody is going to make decisions which is best for their kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

So if a club decides to have holdback kids what will US Lacrosse do? Legally they have no authority over the clubs. Not sure who is mandating what here. I think someone sold you a bridge and you bought it.

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

Hopkins 31 percent white. Brown 41 percent white. All Ivy League schools under 50 percent white. Nothing wrong with that. In fact it is great that schools are more diverse. You are just incorrect with your post. Have to be more careful what you say. That is why people should not listen to 90 percent of what they read here. Everyone do your own homework and choose a school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

Hopkins 31 percent white. Brown 41 percent white. All Ivy League schools under 50 percent white. Nothing wrong with that. In fact it is great that schools are more diverse. You are just incorrect with your post. Have to be more careful what you say. That is why people should not listen to 90 percent of what they read here. Everyone do your own homework and choose a school.

Interesting post. The US population is over 60% white. That puts white students at the above schools in the under represented column. To right the wrongs of the past these schools have now essentially become systemically racist against white students. Which seems to be completely acceptable and even revered in academia today. I think if the poster dug a little deeper on the said demographics of these schools they would find a majority of the athletes at these schools are white students. It has become one of the few ways for white students to gain entry into these schools. Extremely difficult for a non-athlete white student, particularly male, even with the highest of grades and HS accolades to gain admission to these schools. It's another reason why many of these schools are eliminating sports teams, mostly on the men's side.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

So if a club decides to have holdback kids what will US Lacrosse do? Legally they have no authority over the clubs. Not sure who is mandating what here. I think someone sold you a bridge and you bought it.

How does soccer do it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

A couple of things... UNC, Lehigh and Lafayette are not on par with Ivy's.

Ivy's are not all wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods.

The post that you are referring to is from a guy who is trying to justify his (his kids) choice / decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

A couple of things... UNC, Lehigh and Lafayette are not on par with Ivy's.

Ivy's are not all wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods.

The post that you are referring to is from a guy who is trying to justify his (his kids) choice / decision.

I think he’s trying to say that your first priority should be your kids fit, level of happiness and outcome.
These top schools are full of … different kids. They are not the all American types you think they are. They are all super-woke. I got the weekly email from my alma mater (a popular private school w the yankees in the south)this morning and 5 of the 10 headlines were about how woke the school is becoming. I’m glad there is now a science club for the LGBQ’s but what else? You can now get a Kunta cloth at graduation!
They should just be touting the engineering lab!
Just by looking at these schools IG you can tell. Very different.

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The post referring to Top 20 academics instead of Ivies is confusing. The Ivy schools all rank in the Top 20. Otherwise, if a lacrosse school you’re referring to Georgetown, JHU, Duke, UNC and ND. Lehigh and Lafayette are there as well. Pretty sure the student body at all those schools is the same, wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods. Basically Ivy’s.

A couple of things... UNC, Lehigh and Lafayette are not on par with Ivy's.

Ivy's are not all wealthy white kids from homogeneous neighborhoods.

The post that you are referring to is from a guy who is trying to justify his (his kids) choice / decision.

I think he’s trying to say that your first priority should be your kids fit, level of happiness and outcome.
These top schools are full of … different kids. They are not the all American types you think they are. They are all super-woke. I got the weekly email from my alma mater (a popular private school w the yankees in the south)this morning and 5 of the 10 headlines were about how woke the school is becoming. I’m glad there is now a science club for the LGBQ’s but what else? You can now get a Kunta cloth at graduation!
They should just be touting the engineering lab!
Just by looking at these schools IG you can tell. Very different.

In the old days you can pick a school without visiting and most likely be happy. These days you must visit the school when school in session to see who you will be going to school with. You are correct. Pick a school based on outcome, fit and happiness. Many of the top schools, especially the ivy league, are not a good fit for a good portion of America especially those who play lacrosse. There are many schools which would be a good fit that either outperform or are on par with the Ivy league or top 20 ranked. Unfortunately many here have egos that will not understand that and force a kid into a bad situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

So if a club decides to have holdback kids what will US Lacrosse do? Legally they have no authority over the clubs. Not sure who is mandating what here. I think someone sold you a bridge and you bought it.

How does soccer do it?

Who cares, this is lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

So if a club decides to have holdback kids what will US Lacrosse do? Legally they have no authority over the clubs. Not sure who is mandating what here. I think someone sold you a bridge and you bought it.

How does soccer do it?

Who cares, this is lacrosse.

And… you don’t care to make it a fair playing field at the youth ages in their developing years? Sounds like you had an older kid playing younger ones!? Hmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Here's the problem with men's college lacrosse. Among the top 20 "national universities" according to US News and World Report, only 11 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 50 universities, only 19 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 80 universities, only 28 have a men's lacrosse team.
If your goal is to get recruited to play college lacrosse, your options are limited. There are a lot of great universities which you can't consider because the vast majority of universities don't offer the sport, so it is a bit of a gamble.

That's assuming your goal is to use the sport of lacrosse to try to get accepted to a high academic school that normally would be considered a very tough reach.

The bridge has legs. Teams will have to submit rosters with their registrations. The older kids won't be allowed to play (um like world series now) so teams will be comprised of kids that are eligible to play. In soccer the kids have an id card with their picture and dob that they present to the ref prior to league games. pretty simple. and again, in hs years when most of the kids have gone through puberty, not problem with the system going grade based, just NOT in youth. Sorry to take your advantage away...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Here's the problem with men's college lacrosse. Among the top 20 "national universities" according to US News and World Report, only 11 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 50 universities, only 19 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 80 universities, only 28 have a men's lacrosse team.
If your goal is to get recruited to play college lacrosse, your options are limited. There are a lot of great universities which you can't consider because the vast majority of universities don't offer the sport, so it is a bit of a gamble.

No, the problem is trying to get into a top university on your own, without the help of the coach. Your view is that of a glass half empty. Most on here would view it as a glass half full.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Here's the problem with men's college lacrosse. Among the top 20 "national universities" according to US News and World Report, only 11 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 50 universities, only 19 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 80 universities, only 28 have a men's lacrosse team.
If your goal is to get recruited to play college lacrosse, your options are limited. There are a lot of great universities which you can't consider because the vast majority of universities don't offer the sport, so it is a bit of a gamble.

No, the problem is trying to get into a top university on your own, without the help of the coach. Your view is that of a glass half empty. Most on here would view it as a glass half full.

Well that doesn’t make sense at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No problem with all with the competitive advantage one gains for their child through holding them back to gain maturity, experience and greater degree of knowledge-just play with your own age group in youth. Reasonable? Hopefully this won't even be a discussion clogging the forum by '23 when it becomes mandated birth year grouping for club lacrosse play. Discussion over, playing field leveled. Thank you US Lacrosse. See it through.

US Lacrosse has no power...

So if a club decides to have holdback kids what will US Lacrosse do? Legally they have no authority over the clubs. Not sure who is mandating what here. I think someone sold you a bridge and you bought it.

How does soccer do it?

US Soccer and Hockey run the nationwide tournaments. They also control the State, Regional and National level teams. If a kid wants to play on any of these teams, they must play under the banner of a US Soccer or Hockey Club. If they play in any other club or are caught breaking rules, they are disqualified from the state or higher level teams. There is no penalty for not playing under US LAcrosse rules at a club level.

As a college coach who are you going to take, an 18 or 19 yo kid away from home for the first time or a grad transfer who has already shown they can play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A top 25 school, University of Virginia out of state average ACT 35 average in-state ACT 33. A top 35 school UNC has similar stats but not as good as UVA but better than many of the Ivy league. Dartmouth and Cornell average ACT 33 and 32 respectively. University of Virginia average grade point average for out of state over 4.4. Total grade point average 4.3. UNC is about the same. Many Ivy League grade point average under a 4.0 but all are lower than UVA and UNC. Believe it or not this is all weighted. I can replace the University of Virginia and UNC who are not in the top 20 with other schools in the top 20 which are all outperforming entering students statistics compared to the Ivy league. Ivy League not what it once was. Add to the mix the animonsity the Ivy leagues have for independent political views make it not a great fit for many students. Also statistically, not sure if it is true in reality, the top five state schools are outperforming the Ivy league in job placement. Also, top 20 schools are outperforming the Ivy league in average salary. What is being said here is not out wrong based on stats. As a prior post said pick a school based on fit and other factors and not just a name and ranking.

You are splitting hairs…

Just about all schools administrations are super woke…. Ivy’s just get more press.

While I agree that fit is the most important thing ,
People are trying to justify their decisions.

The original poster would have you believe that many Ivy grads are lost after graduation but that all of the grads from other schools are wildly successful and have it all figured out.

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....

Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois

Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

Here's the problem with men's college lacrosse. Among the top 20 "national universities" according to US News and World Report, only 11 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 50 universities, only 19 have a men's lacrosse team. Among the top 80 universities, only 28 have a men's lacrosse team.
If your goal is to get recruited to play college lacrosse, your options are limited. There are a lot of great universities which you can't consider because the vast majority of universities don't offer the sport, so it is a bit of a gamble.

No, the problem is trying to get into a top university on your own, without the help of the coach. Your view is that of a glass half empty. Most on here would view it as a glass half full.

Well that doesn’t make sense at all.

The OP is right. If your kid's lacrosse ability outstrips his academic ability, he has nothing to lose; so the glass is half full. The closer your kid's academic ability gets to his lacrosse ability, the more the glass is half empty.

The coach's help is not getting you into a top college, your grades, SAT, and lacrosse abilities are. Please don't post the opinions of "most" because you have no idea what "most" of us think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bridge has legs. Teams will have to submit rosters with their registrations. The older kids won't be allowed to play (um like world series now) so teams will be comprised of kids that are eligible to play. In soccer the kids have an id card with their picture and dob that they present to the ref prior to league games. pretty simple. and again, in hs years when most of the kids have gone through puberty, not problem with the system going grade based, just NOT in youth. Sorry to take your advantage away...

Submit rosters to who exactly? Again, who is taking over all the clubs? US LAcrosse is not doing this. So again, who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach's help is not getting you into a top college, your grades, SAT, and lacrosse abilities are. Please don't post the opinions of "most" because you have no idea what "most" of us think.

Without the coach wanting the kid nothing else will matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bridge has legs. Teams will have to submit rosters with their registrations. The older kids won't be allowed to play (um like world series now) so teams will be comprised of kids that are eligible to play. In soccer the kids have an id card with their picture and dob that they present to the ref prior to league games. pretty simple. and again, in hs years when most of the kids have gone through puberty, not problem with the system going grade based, just NOT in youth. Sorry to take your advantage away...

Submit rosters to who exactly? Again, who is taking over all the clubs? US LAcrosse is not doing this. So again, who?

Someone once told me that US Lacrosse provides insurance and it is needed before the kids can play on some club teams. Maybe US Lacrosse can deny membership and provide no insurance. That would force tournament directors to check age and insurance status. Other than that long shot guess I would think they have no power.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bridge has legs. Teams will have to submit rosters with their registrations. The older kids won't be allowed to play (um like world series now) so teams will be comprised of kids that are eligible to play. In soccer the kids have an id card with their picture and dob that they present to the ref prior to league games. pretty simple. and again, in hs years when most of the kids have gone through puberty, not problem with the system going grade based, just NOT in youth. Sorry to take your advantage away...

Submit rosters to who exactly? Again, who is taking over all the clubs? US LAcrosse is not doing this. So again, who?

Someone once told me that US Lacrosse provides insurance and it is needed before the kids can play on some club teams. Maybe US Lacrosse can deny membership and provide no insurance. That would force tournament directors to check age and insurance status. Other than that long shot guess I would think they have no power.

There is no oversight committee. It’s a ridiculous forever argument. Nothing will ever change. God bless America on this tragic day.

Whether the tournament directors actually look at the submited rosters with birth dates is probably in question, but that is who the rosters would be submitted to. Then if there is a protest birth dates are documented somewhere. It cleans everything up. Poor Dad is in fear of change and being exposed and his son having to play with kids his own age. Too funny.

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whether the tournament directors actually look at the submited rosters with birth dates is probably in question, but that is who the rosters would be submitted to. Then if there is a protest birth dates are documented somewhere. It cleans everything up. Poor Dad is in fear of change and being exposed and his son having to play with kids his own age. Too funny.

No one is doing this ever! This is a HS thread, this post is for 5th grade club. Keep it there. Please stop with the hysteria and victim hood mentality. It’s so pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

WORD! The sport helps TREMENDOUSLY. The Other poster who says it doesn’t, didn’t answer if his kid was a re-class? Hmmm? Sounds like he’s got the money for college, and his kid just playing extra years for fun and not advantages. ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

Yes! They had the grades and probably the $s too. Doesn’t mean they would have gotten into those schools without the sport? Could have, but ? I’m sure the sports help! How about the People bribing USC, Harvard , etc ? They had plenty of $s and perfect (prob. Bought) grades. Still had to fake a sport to get in? Got caught… but they knew a sport could be the way in… to these prestigious schools they couldn’t get into. Everyone knows about good grades , sometimes you need more ! Fact no one disputing the grade component!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

Benn through the process multiple times. The majority didn't have the grades to get in on their own. If your son or daughter has gone through the process and has Excellent Grades and Test scores and the coaches are not willing to help with admissions it is because the coach doesn't think your child can help the team compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

Benn through the process multiple times. The majority didn't have the grades to get in on their own. If your son or daughter has gone through the process and has Excellent Grades and Test scores and the coaches are not willing to help with admissions it is because the coach doesn't think your child can help the team compete.

So, would you say the reverse is true also? Excellent player who can help the team, but not the best grades can get in over the other kid with great grades?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

Benn through the process multiple times. The majority didn't have the grades to get in on their own. If your son or daughter has gone through the process and has Excellent Grades and Test scores and the coaches are not willing to help with admissions it is because the coach doesn't think your child can help the team compete.

How many times? Multiple, like 3 or 4 or 5?? Sorry, your story doesn't pass the smell test. You're making up stories.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

WORD! The sport helps TREMENDOUSLY. The Other poster who says it doesn’t, didn’t answer if his kid was a re-class? Hmmm? Sounds like he’s got the money for college, and his kid just playing extra years for fun and not advantages. ??

Dude, get off the socio-economic status of lacrosse players. Bottom line, the VAST majority of top kids are RICH!! they live in Manhasset, GC, Port Washington, and Syosset in Nassau. they go to Chaminade and St. A's. It's a rich kid sport. Look at every single LI Champion over the last 10 years and pick out the poor communities. Show me how many Freeport has? How about Amityville? If you don't like it, you picked the wrong sport. STOP BEING A VICTIM and show your kid how to succeed, YOU are failing him with all your whining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

WORD! The sport helps TREMENDOUSLY. The Other poster who says it doesn’t, didn’t answer if his kid was a re-class? Hmmm? Sounds like he’s got the money for college, and his kid just playing extra years for fun and not advantages. ??

Dude, get off the socio-economic status of lacrosse players. Bottom line, the VAST majority of top kids are RICH!! they live in Manhasset, GC, Port Washington, and Syosset in Nassau. they go to Chaminade and St. A's. It's a rich kid sport. Look at every single LI Champion over the last 10 years and pick out the poor communities. Show me how many Freeport has? How about Amityville? If you don't like it, you picked the wrong sport. STOP BEING A VICTIM and show your kid how to succeed, YOU are failing him with all your whining.

Dude, no one is talking about the dollars! Talking about if the sport aspect helps get kids into colleges they would never have had a chance getting into without it. The money part came into play , because people who have it can afford to keep their kids back and play they’re-class game that is an advantage , no matter what you want to say about it! BTW, you didn’t answer … did your kid re-class?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

You really have no knowledge of how this works. Do you really believe that the majority of players get into school on their own? You have to be joking, nobody is that misinformed.

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Benn through the process multiple times. The majority didn't have the grades to get in on their own. If your son or daughter has gone through the process and has Excellent Grades and Test scores and the coaches are not willing to help with admissions it is because the coach doesn't think your child can help the team compete.[/quote]

How many times? Multiple, like 3 or 4 or 5?? Sorry, your story doesn't pass the smell test. You're making up stories.[/quote]

If your school has naviance, look it up. It is littered with students>100 avg, >1400 sat and rejected from those top schools. Then you will see the outlier and it won't be hard to tell what athlete when there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Nope! Not at all. Quite the contrary. My kids have excellent grades and we have the $s for college put away. No victim here. The Point being that you still don’t seem to grasp, is the post was discussing how the sport can help a kid have a better opportunity for a college they would not be able to get into with just good grades and money. The sport opens doors … and AGAIN…. No one questioning a kid needs to have good grades! That comes first. No kidding! There is a reason people will hold kids back to give them more opportunity in the sport to get some of those doors opened! You’re in denial if you think they don’t do that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Benn through the process multiple times. The majority didn't have the grades to get in on their own. If your son or daughter has gone through the process and has Excellent Grades and Test scores and the coaches are not willing to help with admissions it is because the coach doesn't think your child can help the team compete.

How many times? Multiple, like 3 or 4 or 5?? Sorry, your story doesn't pass the smell test. You're making up stories.[/quote]

If your school has naviance, look it up. It is littered with students>100 avg, >1400 sat and rejected from those top schools. Then you will see the outlier and it won't be hard to tell what athlete when there.[/quote]

Apparently you did not attend one of those top school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Parents are putting in way too much thought and effort towards a hobby in lack of better words. In a couple of years, this back and forth regarding re-class will be passed down to another set of a clueless, self-absorbed bunch of parents. I just let my son play. He's focused on a certain school, and once lacrosse is over, it's over.

So your son has played and still plays on age and just focused on a certain school? His Good Grades and your money can probably get him in? But, with some of the top schools , that is not always the case.

Not everyone can get onto their top choice schools with grades and money. The sport aspect helps a lot! That’s why parents spend so much money on lacrosse. They are hoping it will be a factor in helping their kid get into a top school they wouldn’t otherwise get in with just money and good grades. The thought and effort is more about future opportunities , more than actual lacrosse!

The sport doesn’t help a lot. Football and basketball do, but lacrosse doesn’t help all that much. Guessing you haven’t gone through the process or you wouldn’t be posting this silliness.Want your kid in a top school, save the $5000 a summer and invest it in a combination of SAT prep and tutors, it will serve your son much more. Parents who spend the money on lacrosse do it for themselves.

The sport absolutely helps a lot. Take a look over the years at the kids who have gone on to Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell... How many of them would have gotten in on their own? Take a look at the next tier and the tier after that.... Georgetown, Michigan, Virginia, North Carolina.... and the next.... Boston University, Lehigh, Ohio State, Villanova, Syracuse, Maryland, Penn State, Bucknell, Colgate etc...
Don't forget Navy, Army, Airforce.... How about Bentley? DIII is an option as well Tufts and the rest of the NESCAC's.... and many more schools.

How many of the Long Island players that are currently enrolled at those schools or who have graduated would have been accepted without the help of the lacrosse coach?

Go check the roster for Football and Basketball at the schools listed above and tell us all how many Long Island kids are on the rosters and then take a look at the Lacrosse rosters at those schools.

The lacrosse players who went to all those schools had the grades. Sorry to interfere with your fantasy. The kids going to the service academies get very little assistance from the sport. If they don't have the grades it's off to Prep. You have not been through the process if you believe what you are writing.

You really have no knowledge of how this works. Do you really believe that the majority of players get into school on their own? You have to be joking, nobody is that misinformed.

Those who say you need similar grades compared to everyone else who gets accepted without lacrosse probably have a kid who was not good enough to have a coach push his kid through the admission process. Nothing wrong with that but they will never understand or believe you because they had a different recruiting experience. The less skill a kid has the more helpful grades are and the more skill a kid has the more lesser grades are overlooked. Also every school is different. Division one coaches have more of a chance to push someone through than division three. They also manipulate the system. Top schools will take a 100 average student who will never play but he will off set a low grade top athlete to meet the grades a recruiting class needs. Not all do this but I know for a fact some do. Kids should get the best grades they can so they won’t have to worry if a coach can get them into a school. This is especially so for division three.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Bro, nothing wrong with using the word "dude"! chilax...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Dude getting touchy about someone saying dude! You have bigger issues than that, you need to hug your kid. You're failing at parenthood.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Dude getting touchy about someone saying dude! You have bigger issues than that, you need to hug your kid. You're failing at parenthood.

Isn't this a hs lax forum. GTFU and stop with the silly responses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet !

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Dude getting touchy about someone saying dude! You have bigger issues than that, you need to hug your kid. You're failing at parenthood.

Isn't this a hs lax forum. GTFU and stop with the silly responses.

Truth hurts dude

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Dude getting touchy about someone saying dude! You have bigger issues than that, you need to hug your kid. You're failing at parenthood.

Isn't this a hs lax forum. GTFU and stop with the silly responses.

Truth hurts dude

“I’m the Dude, so that’s what you call me. That or, uh His Dudeness, or uh Duder, or El Duderino, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No my son didn’t reclass. You still crying victim??

Not yet

You haven’t stopped being a victim since birth dude. You’re failing your son.

So touchy about this subject?. Sounds like your first word at birth was “dude” and you are still using it daily. Stop! You’re embarrassing your son. A grown man?? Throwing around “dude” is embarrassing!

Dude getting touchy about someone saying dude! You have bigger issues than that, you need to hug your kid. You're failing at parenthood.

Isn't this a hs lax forum. GTFU and stop with the silly responses.

Truth hurts dude

“I’m the Dude, so that’s what you call me. That or, uh His Dudeness, or uh Duder, or El Duderino, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.”

Truth!!……dude

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

Hearing that another Nassau lacrosse group/conference realignment is coming. Anyone have any clarity or info. Are they now going to switch conferences every year based on school enrollment and do they really fluctuate that much? There has to be a better way to keep a competitive balance, at least in Nassau. For the blue chip programs they'll remain strong for some of the outliers all it takes is a player or 2 to graduate than they stink the next season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

You fail to mention that you must be a top 10 recruit at your position in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

You fail to mention that you must be a top 10 recruit at your position in the country.

Also, do you need to be a holdback? How many top recruits in each position in the country are “on age”?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing that another Nassau lacrosse group/conference realignment is coming. Anyone have any clarity or info. Are they now going to switch conferences every year based on school enrollment and do they really fluctuate that much? There has to be a better way to keep a competitive balance, at least in Nassau. For the blue chip programs they'll remain strong for some of the outliers all it takes is a player or 2 to graduate than they stink the next season.

What schools are the outliers?

Agree you need to be top ten at your position to go to Yale. Harvard has reached down further historically, but that is probably changing with new coach.

You don’t have to be top ten at your spot to go to service academy. Some in that upper echelon may choose to go that route. However, academies reach down much further. They have to as that life is not appropriate for most lax bros out there. Many/most recruits already required to spend a year at the prep school in order to be accepted. A lot of kids also “commit” to an academy and then use it as leverage to flip elsewhere.

Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

You fail to mention that you must be a top 10 recruit at your position in the country.

Also, do you need to be a holdback? How many top recruits in each position in the country are “on age”?

None are on age.

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

CSH 4-Lehigh, Harvard, Michigan, Rutgers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

CSH 4-Lehigh, Harvard, Michigan, Rutgers

I thought GC has no D1 commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

CSH 4-Lehigh, Harvard, Michigan, Rutgers

They mean in the 2023 class and CSH has 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

CSH 4-Lehigh, Harvard, Michigan, Rutgers

They mean in the 2023 class and CSH has 1.

Any from Jericho HS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

CSH 4-Lehigh, Harvard, Michigan, Rutgers

They mean in the 2023 class and CSH has 1.

Any from Jericho HS?

Zero.

Quite a few of the long island recruits are "on age"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

You fail to mention that you must be a top 10 recruit at your position in the country.

Also, do you need to be a holdback? How many top recruits in each position in the country are “on age”?

None are on age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

The thread said Top LI HS with D1 commitments. Did not see the specific '23 reference. There are 3 other CSH private school kids committed (st. A's 2 and Taft) and each is a hold back... so yes, many top '23 commits are hold backs, even on li.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

Anybody who has a kid that was not good enough for a coach to push through the admission process when his grades were not good enough to get into a particular college will never understand and will never agree with you that kids can have significantly lower grades and still get into great schools with lacrosse helping them. Simply put , the better the player the less grades matter. The less talent the player has the more grades matter. Parents of the less talented recruits will not understand this and will argue that grades matter. Grades do matter to a certain extent but the above quote is accurate.

"Top LI High Schools with Div 1 commitments. SA 11, Chaminade 4, Manhasset 4, GC 3, MSH 2, Huntington 2."

Huntington? talk about outlier. Congrats on your two commits...but no one outside of the dad that wrote this would include them in a list of TOP LI HS's (be it lax or academics)...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

Anybody who has a kid that was not good enough for a coach to push through the admission process when his grades were not good enough to get into a particular college will never understand and will never agree with you that kids can have significantly lower grades and still get into great schools with lacrosse helping them. Simply put , the better the player the less grades matter. The less talent the player has the more grades matter. Parents of the less talented recruits will not understand this and will argue that grades matter. Grades do matter to a certain extent but the above quote is accurate.

This is funny to read -----believe what you want ---eventually most parents find out the real process- we all hope our kids benefit ---just don't lie or badmouth the players that do benefit ----but it is very funny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

Anybody who has a kid that was not good enough for a coach to push through the admission process when his grades were not good enough to get into a particular college will never understand and will never agree with you that kids can have significantly lower grades and still get into great schools with lacrosse helping them. Simply put , the better the player the less grades matter. The less talent the player has the more grades matter. Parents of the less talented recruits will not understand this and will argue that grades matter. Grades do matter to a certain extent but the above quote is accurate.

It is incorrect.

For the 2022 recruiting class, Ivy League and NESCAC schools gave out offers without even looking at standardized test scores. Since their member schools were all test optional last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

Anybody who has a kid that was not good enough for a coach to push through the admission process when his grades were not good enough to get into a particular college will never understand and will never agree with you that kids can have significantly lower grades and still get into great schools with lacrosse helping them. Simply put , the better the player the less grades matter. The less talent the player has the more grades matter. Parents of the less talented recruits will not understand this and will argue that grades matter. Grades do matter to a certain extent but the above quote is accurate.

This is funny to read -----believe what you want ---eventually most parents find out the real process- we all hope our kids benefit ---just don't lie or badmouth the players that do benefit ----but it is very funny

Anybody who thinks that Yale or University of Virginia won the national championship with a team of players who had a 33 to 36 ACT score or over a 1450 SAT score and almost 4.0 GPA which is needed without lacrosse (out of state UVA applicant needs on average a 35 ACT or 1500 SAT and a 4.3 GPA which is actually harder to get in compared to an Ivy League school ) lacks knowledge of the process. Most top athletes don’t have those grades. In fact only about a half of a percent of the entire country have those grades. Of course the Ivy leagues and top schools have to lower their standards for athletes including lacrosse players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse is a MAJOR help for a service academy or an IVY. Think 1250 SAT 89-90 average and going to Harvard or Yale. Anyone else needs 1450+ and 98. Same thing with service academies...Getting into Navy (in particular) or West Point (to a lesser extent) without a sport is as hard as getting into a top Ivy. Kids with 85 averages going to service academy prep school and then onto an academy. They are doing an extra year and would not pass the laugh test without lacrosse. So keep practicing boys.....It helps!!!

This is completely inaccurate.

It is actually pretty spot on….

Anybody who has a kid that was not good enough for a coach to push through the admission process when his grades were not good enough to get into a particular college will never understand and will never agree with you that kids can have significantly lower grades and still get into great schools with lacrosse helping them. Simply put , the better the player the less grades matter. The less talent the player has the more grades matter. Parents of the less talented recruits will not understand this and will argue that grades matter. Grades do matter to a certain extent but the above quote is accurate.

This is funny to read -----believe what you want ---eventually most parents find out the real process- we all hope our kids benefit ---just don't lie or badmouth the players that do benefit ----but it is very funny

Anybody who thinks that Yale or University of Virginia won the national championship with a team of players who had a 33 to 36 ACT score or over a 1450 SAT score and almost 4.0 GPA which is needed without lacrosse (out of state UVA applicant needs on average a 35 ACT or 1500 SAT and a 4.3 GPA which is actually harder to get in compared to an Ivy League school ) lacks knowledge of the process. Most top athletes don’t have those grades. In fact only about a half of a percent of the entire country have those grades. Of course the Ivy leagues and top schools have to lower their standards for athletes including lacrosse players.

Not true.

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

You are correct. My son received a perfect score on his SAT and has a 4.5 GPA. Schools are still telling him it will be unlikely he gets in.

Here's an excerpt from Stanford Magazine July/August 1999.

"Stanford is the school of choice for the scholar-athlete. In the four classes entering the University from 1994 to 1997, the average freshman male athlete had logged a 3.73 high school GPA and a 1,215 SAT score, according to NCAA statistics. Female freshman athletes during the same period had a 3.87 GPA and a 1,151 SAT score. By comparison, the averages for all Division 1 schools combined were 2.97 and 997 for males and 3.29 and 1,007 for females. At Duke University, another school known for academics as well as athletics, incoming freshman male athletes had a 3.46 GPA and an SAT of 1,103, while females had a 3.51 grade-point and a 1,090 test score."

The national average SAT score in 1997 was 1016.

Maybe things have changed in 20 years or maybe not.

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/how-to-build-a-dynasty

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

True statement!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

True statement!

We just went through this. Minimum 1350 and very good grades in honors and AP classes. If you are being told you can get in with less than that, you must be their top 1 or 2 target.

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

True statement!

We just went through this. Minimum 1350 and very good grades in honors and AP classes. If you are being told you can get in with less than that, you must be their top 1 or 2 target.

Not sure why this is a difficult concept for people to grasp. The top recruits do not need the same grades as the lower recruits and recruited athletes do not need the same grades / test scores as the general student population. Recruited athletes need to have very good grades at all of the Ivy’s, they just do not need to be as good as regular students.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

True statement!

We just went through this. Minimum 1350 and very good grades in honors and AP classes. If you are being told you can get in with less than that, you must be their top 1 or 2 target.

Not sure why this is a difficult concept for people to grasp. The top recruits do not need the same grades as the lower recruits and recruited athletes do not need the same grades / test scores as the general student population. Recruited athletes need to have very good grades at all of the Ivy’s, they just do not need to be as good as regular students.

I think this all started by someone saying that grades don’t matter. They do to a point. What you said is true. The top athletes can get by with lower grades. Their grades still need to be good. The lesser athlete can get by with slightly lower grades than a non athlete. In the end they all need good grades.

"White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact."

These are not "Facts". These are your erroneous statements. There are in fact white males with perfect SAT /ACT scores that have gotten into and rejected from Ivy schools. There is no "side door" at Yale. There is a different consideration given to athletes that will contribute to the University that is slightly below the median of the accepted applicants as a whole. THOSE ARE FACTS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact.

Go away, you know nothing.

USC does not have a Men’s Lacrosse Program.

No “Average Student” gets into Yale as a result of being a lacrosse player.

True statement!

We just went through this. Minimum 1350 and very good grades in honors and AP classes. If you are being told you can get in with less than that, you must be their top 1 or 2 target.

Not sure why this is a difficult concept for people to grasp. The top recruits do not need the same grades as the lower recruits and recruited athletes do not need the same grades / test scores as the general student population. Recruited athletes need to have very good grades at all of the Ivy’s, they just do not need to be as good as regular students.

I think this all started by someone saying that grades don’t matter. They do to a point. What you said is true. The top athletes can get by with lower grades. Their grades still need to be good. The lesser athlete can get by with slightly lower grades than a non athlete. In the end they all need good grades.

Yes, zero percent change you get into an ivy w a 1350 and straight As unless there is something very different about you.

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

Not even remotely correct, they are diversity entrants. Do some research.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"White males with perfect SAT / ACT scores don't get into Ivy League schools. They don't into Georgetown, UVA, and USC! But a white male that's a stand out lax recruit...that's a different story. This is a fact. Yale has a side door for average students that excel at lacrosse. Fact."

These are not "Facts". These are your erroneous statements. There are in fact white males with perfect SAT /ACT scores that have gotten into and rejected from Ivy schools. There is no "side door" at Yale. There is a different consideration given to athletes that will contribute to the University that is slightly below the median of the accepted applicants as a whole. THOSE ARE FACTS.

Correct statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

No, most of them are diverse students who come from academically disadvantaged backgrounds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

No, most of them are diverse students who come from academically disadvantaged backgrounds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Every player/recruit is different, the top kids can get in with considerably less academic credentials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Considerable is a subjective term.

We know a recruit who committed to an Ivy school 2 years ago with a 1400 SAT score when the average score for that school is over 1500. Is that considereble?

Stanford and Duke are reputed to have even more lenient academic admission standards than the Ivy’s. Maybe 1250-1300 range?

If you are a top 50 HS player in your graduate year D1 coaches can get kids accepted with significantly lower gpa and scores than the average accepted student. I know this as fact. Not slightly at all. Significantly.

You don't have to be top 50, you just have to get recruited by the school. Many recruited players aren't top 50.

And now with many of these schools test optional, many of the athletes won't take the tests at all unless they are going to do really well at it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Considerable is a subjective term.

We know a recruit who committed to an Ivy school 2 years ago with a 1400 SAT score when the average score for that school is over 1500. Is that considereble?

Stanford and Duke are reputed to have even more lenient academic admission standards than the Ivy’s. Maybe 1250-1300 range?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Considerable is a subjective term.

We know a recruit who committed to an Ivy school 2 years ago with a 1400 SAT score when the average score for that school is over 1500. Is that considereble?

Stanford and Duke are reputed to have even more lenient academic admission standards than the Ivy’s. Maybe 1250-1300 range?

When my oldest went through the recruiting process (before the rule change) as a 9th grader Duke gave us a guideline (I know longer have it) and it outlined academic cause for concern regarding recruits, I do not remember exact GPA but I remember it stated SAT below 1200 would be cause for concern. First time out (9th or 10th grade can’t remember) scored 28 on ACT … Princeton said take it again but if that is the best we can work with it. At the Ivy’s it is definitely different for every kid and it depends on the entire recruiting class. If a schools top recruit has a 33 ACT and a 98 unweighted GPA with all Honors and AP classes then some of the other recruits can get in with lower credentials. If the top couple of recruits have low 90 GPA’s and 28-29 ACT then the other recruits will have to have much better grades and test scores.

Every single situation is different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

No, most of them are diverse students who come from academically disadvantaged backgrounds.

Not true. URM or under represented minority doesn't necessarily mean the the student comes from an academic or economically disadvantaged background. Many don't.

This may help:

https://www.mka.org/uploaded/college_counseling/Publications/AI_Guidelines_Worksheet.pdf

I don't think the Ivy League's AI guidelines work anymore if schools remain test optional for regular applicants as well as recruited athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't have to be top 50, you just have to get recruited by the school. Many recruited players aren't top 50.

Of course. I meant that the admissions process is much less rigorous for the top kids.

At this point, all they have to go on in terms of academic evaluation is the prospect's GPA. There are no SAT subject tests and standardized tests are optional. There are no AP requirements.
That's kind of a joke because looking at an applicant's HS GPA is very subjective- almost meaningless. Identical GPAs from different HS, even from students taking similar classes, are not comparable. Some HS are more rigorous in their instruction and are tough in their grading process.
Other schools are the exact opposite. A similar argument can be made about the end of year HS class rank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't have to be top 50, you just have to get recruited by the school. Many recruited players aren't top 50.

Of course. I meant that the admissions process is much less rigorous for the top kids.

This statement is wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

No, most of them are diverse students who come from academically disadvantaged backgrounds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Every player/recruit is different, the top kids can get in with considerably less academic credentials.

Simply not a true statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you have to do is some research. There are plenty of admissions info on the web. Look at the scatter plots for acceptances to Ivy leagues. A few students get acceptances that are way outside of the parameters for a typical acceptance. These are typically athletes that are game changers for their sports.

There are most certainly non athletes in those scatter plots...

Sure deep pockets, alumni requests, etc but most of them are athletes.

No, most of them are diverse students who come from academically disadvantaged backgrounds.

Not true. URM or under represented minority doesn't necessarily mean the the student comes from an academic or economically disadvantaged background. Many don't.

Most are, very few athletes represented. Very few

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think that the OP’s point was that in order to accepted into a top academic school through the conventional route, you need to have superlative academic credentials. Even then, they are all considered reaches. If you are an athletic prospect and the coach of the same school is interested in you as a player, the academic requirements required by the admissions office are considerably less stringent.

Not accurate remove the word "considerably", replace it with slightly.

Considerable is a subjective term.

We know a recruit who committed to an Ivy school 2 years ago with a 1400 SAT score when the average score for that school is over 1500. Is that considereble?

Stanford and Duke are reputed to have even more lenient academic admission standards than the Ivy’s. Maybe 1250-1300 range?

Stanford doesn’t have Men’s lacrosse. Reputed means maybe. You know a single recruit, therefore that is the final answer. How do you know they are being truthful? What factual evidence did you see? SAT scores? Transcripts? Please give more than a guy I know.

Universities don’t like to publicize how much preferential admissions treatment they give special populations like athletes, legacies, and under-represented minority groups.

From ESPN columnist and 4 time All-American Stanford University softball player

“Which is generally what Stanford looks for when admitting athletes. There are no official standards you have to hit to get in. No magic formula of SAT scores and GPA, although generally it's gotta be above 1150 (out of 1600) and 3.5. But it's a sliding scale. And yes, it varies by sport. A football player with a 1100 SAT and 3.4 GPA might get in while a softball player with the same scores wouldn't.”

http://m.espn.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=college_sports&id=6206094&src=desktop

From Duke Chronicle - university student newspaper editorial

“For the Class of 2007, 768 male non-athletes were admitted to Duke with an average SAT score of 1,438, while 42 recruited athletes averaged 1,172. For females, 786 non-athletes averaged 1,403, versus 37 athletes' 1,258.

That's a 266-point gap for males and a 145-point gap for females.

And in case you're interested in a team-by-team breakdown, the eight men's baseball team recruits averaged 1,206 that year, while 22 football players averaged 1,063 and the five men's basketball players came in last at 997. All 14 other recruited male athletes averaged 1,258.

Considering the national average for the 2002 SAT was 1,026, it's a safe bet that few (if any) non-athletes could even get their foot in the door with stats like the ones above.

Yet the most elite recruits (read: prospective basketball players) can be tentatively admitted before they've finished their junior year of high school; all that's needed is a PSAT score and freshman and sophomore grades.

This must have been how our beloved Sean Dockery got admitted with a 2.3 GPA and an ACT score of 15; at the time, his credentials didn't even meet NCAA minimums of a 2.5 GPA and 17 on the ACT.”

https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2006/10/fight-blue-devils-fight

From Stanford Magazine - published by Stanford Univerisity alumni association

“In the four classes entering the University from 1994 to 1997, the average freshman male athlete had logged a 3.73 high school GPA and a 1,215 SAT score, according to NCAA statistics. Female freshman athletes during the same period had a 3.87 GPA and a 1,151 SAT score. By comparison, the averages for all Division 1 schools combined were 2.97 and 997 for males and 3.29 and 1,007 for females. At Duke University, another school known for academics as well as athletics, incoming freshman male athletes had a 3.46 GPA and an SAT of 1,103, while females had a 3.51 grade-point and a 1,090 test score.“

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/how-to-build-a-dynasty

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

References include for statistics for women athletes only.
And there are no revenue women’s sports like football and men’s basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

And there you have it…. The typical jealous bitter response.
I’m sure the Liberal Arts major coming out of Princeton, Yale, Harvard etc… do just fine after graduation. The ones that I know have gone into investment banking, Consulting, Private Equity etc… they start out 100k plus. Unless you have a specific vocation that you are interested in, it will be your connections/alumni, your university reputation and your grades that matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Yeah, basket weaving... Your small minded view demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a quote from a Harvard History Major:

“After five years on Wall Street working
for two of the largest investment banks in the world (Morgan Stanley &
UBS), I have found that communication skills are absolutely essential to
success in a career in finance. I would argue that one’s ability to write,
compose, and edit well is more important than one’s ability to create a
spreadsheet or perform quantitative-oriented tasks. So far in my career,
my communication skills have definitely set me apart from my peers.
Nearly all business problems I have faced were discussed, debated,
and ultimately solved either over e-mail or through more formal
correspondence (especially with clients), and it was my ability to present
well-formed arguments and logical solutions that frequently won me
praise from firm management. In this respect, the training I received
from the Harvard History Department prepared me EXTREMELY well
for my professional life. My advice to anyone who is not sure what they
can do with a Harvard History degree - Anything they want. It’s really
true!”

Choose a Major that you are passionate about, do well and get good grades and you can do whatever you want. Communication skills and leadership skills are critical in business.

The History Major or any Liberal Arts Major with excellent grades graduating from any Top 10 - 20 University will have many options, some will go on to Law School, some will go to Wall Street, some will go into Consulting some will go travel the world or play lacrosse until they figure out what they want to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Yeah, basket weaving... Your small minded view demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a quote from a Harvard History Major:

“After five years on Wall Street working
for two of the largest investment banks in the world (Morgan Stanley &
UBS), I have found that communication skills are absolutely essential to
success in a career in finance. I would argue that one’s ability to write,
compose, and edit well is more important than one’s ability to create a
spreadsheet or perform quantitative-oriented tasks. So far in my career,
my communication skills have definitely set me apart from my peers.
Nearly all business problems I have faced were discussed, debated,
and ultimately solved either over e-mail or through more formal
correspondence (especially with clients), and it was my ability to present
well-formed arguments and logical solutions that frequently won me
praise from firm management. In this respect, the training I received
from the Harvard History Department prepared me EXTREMELY well
for my professional life. My advice to anyone who is not sure what they
can do with a Harvard History degree - Anything they want. It’s really
true!”

Choose a Major that you are passionate about, do well and get good grades and you can do whatever you want. Communication skills and leadership skills are critical in business.

The History Major or any Liberal Arts Major with excellent grades graduating from any Top 10 - 20 University will have many options, some will go on to Law School, some will go to Wall Street, some will go into Consulting some will go travel the world or play lacrosse until they figure out what they want to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Yeah, basket weaving... Your small minded view demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a quote from a Harvard History Major:

“After five years on Wall Street working
for two of the largest investment banks in the world (Morgan Stanley &
UBS), I have found that communication skills are absolutely essential to
success in a career in finance. I would argue that one’s ability to write,
compose, and edit well is more important than one’s ability to create a
spreadsheet or perform quantitative-oriented tasks. So far in my career,
my communication skills have definitely set me apart from my peers.
Nearly all business problems I have faced were discussed, debated,
and ultimately solved either over e-mail or through more formal
correspondence (especially with clients), and it was my ability to present
well-formed arguments and logical solutions that frequently won me
praise from firm management. In this respect, the training I received
from the Harvard History Department prepared me EXTREMELY well
for my professional life. My advice to anyone who is not sure what they
can do with a Harvard History degree - Anything they want. It’s really
true!”

Choose a Major that you are passionate about, do well and get good grades and you can do whatever you want. Communication skills and leadership skills are critical in business.

The History Major or any Liberal Arts Major with excellent grades graduating from any Top 10 - 20 University will have many options, some will go on to Law School, some will go to Wall Street, some will go into Consulting some will go travel the world or play lacrosse until they figure out what they want to do.

You bring up excellent points. Kids going to the tippy top schools have a lot of potential opportunities. But a legitimate concern is how these student-athletes can successfully compete in the classroom against peers who are academically stronger (admission SATs 150-300 points higher) and who don’t have to devote 40 hr/week year-round practicing a sport. Fortunately, it’s very hard to fail out or three schools. But how realistic is it for the vast majority athletes to compete academically. Professors don’t usually give the whole class As. Some group in every class has to earn the lowest grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Yeah, basket weaving... Your small minded view demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a quote from a Harvard History Major:

“After five years on Wall Street working
for two of the largest investment banks in the world (Morgan Stanley &
UBS), I have found that communication skills are absolutely essential to
success in a career in finance. I would argue that one’s ability to write,
compose, and edit well is more important than one’s ability to create a
spreadsheet or perform quantitative-oriented tasks. So far in my career,
my communication skills have definitely set me apart from my peers.
Nearly all business problems I have faced were discussed, debated,
and ultimately solved either over e-mail or through more formal
correspondence (especially with clients), and it was my ability to present
well-formed arguments and logical solutions that frequently won me
praise from firm management. In this respect, the training I received
from the Harvard History Department prepared me EXTREMELY well
for my professional life. My advice to anyone who is not sure what they
can do with a Harvard History degree - Anything they want. It’s really
true!”

Choose a Major that you are passionate about, do well and get good grades and you can do whatever you want. Communication skills and leadership skills are critical in business.

The History Major or any Liberal Arts Major with excellent grades graduating from any Top 10 - 20 University will have many options, some will go on to Law School, some will go to Wall Street, some will go into Consulting some will go travel the world or play lacrosse until they figure out what they want to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

There is no doubt that recruited athletics receive tremendous assistance in getting admitted to the schools you listed. Based on the statistics presented above, you can even argue that probably none of the enrolled student-athletes had any business applying to these schools if it wasn't for sports.

That is correct. That is also why these kids who do not belong going to these high academic schools major in basket weaving, history, and criminal justice.

Yeah, basket weaving... Your small minded view demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is a quote from a Harvard History Major:

“After five years on Wall Street working
for two of the largest investment banks in the world (Morgan Stanley &
UBS), I have found that communication skills are absolutely essential to
success in a career in finance. I would argue that one’s ability to write,
compose, and edit well is more important than one’s ability to create a
spreadsheet or perform quantitative-oriented tasks. So far in my career,
my communication skills have definitely set me apart from my peers.
Nearly all business problems I have faced were discussed, debated,
and ultimately solved either over e-mail or through more formal
correspondence (especially with clients), and it was my ability to present
well-formed arguments and logical solutions that frequently won me
praise from firm management. In this respect, the training I received
from the Harvard History Department prepared me EXTREMELY well
for my professional life. My advice to anyone who is not sure what they
can do with a Harvard History degree - Anything they want. It’s really
true!”

Choose a Major that you are passionate about, do well and get good grades and you can do whatever you want. Communication skills and leadership skills are critical in business.

The History Major or any Liberal Arts Major with excellent grades graduating from any Top 10 - 20 University will have many options, some will go on to Law School, some will go to Wall Street, some will go into Consulting some will go travel the world or play lacrosse until they figure out what they want to do.

You bring up excellent points. Kids going to the tippy top schools have a lot of potential opportunities. But a legitimate concern is how these student-athletes can successfully compete in the classroom against peers who are academically stronger (admission SATs 150-300 points higher) and who don’t have to devote 40 hr/week year-round practicing a sport. Fortunately, it’s very hard to fail out or three schools. But how realistic is it for the vast majority athletes to compete academically. Professors don’t usually give the whole class As. Some group in every class has to earn the lowest grade.

You are transparent with your passive aggressive backhanded complements.

I actually have a kid committed to a top 10 school, That’s why I’m asking the question.

Maybe someone with a kid who has gone through it would be best to respond.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe someone with a kid who has gone through it would be best to respond.

Once you are admitted, make sure your kid takes the same classes/major as the majority of teammates if he’s not a super strong student. They all cheat their way through. Been through it twice. Once they get out and get a job they will be trained. They learn nothing in college unless they take a tough major like engineering or pre med type majors

I guess you don't find out about a lot things until you get there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

OK because every rich white lax player is smart and studies hard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

OK because every rich white lax player is smart and studies hard.

No! But a lot of time they do have some pretty good connections with boosters who can help the admissions process as well! Sometimes it’s who you know and not what !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

All recruited athletes get a tremendous boost in the Admissions office, even if football and men's basketball players get an even bigger boost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

All recruited athletes get a tremendous boost in the Admissions office, even if football and men's basketball players get an even bigger boost.

No they don't get a tremendous boost UNLESS they are football or basketball players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

Then don't use general terms like athletes, be specific in your argument. What are the statistics for lacrosse players on a lacrosse forum? Be specific.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

OK because every rich white lax player is smart and studies hard.

Where did you read studies hard? facts are the majority of lacrosse players at top academic schools are white and upper-middle class. Sorry to burst your bubble. Look at the rosters of the Top 5 programs for the last 10 years and show me the poor inner-city kids. How many do you think you will find?

Maybe the universities don't like to publicize their internal statistics which show how much they favor certain groups over other applicants to their schools? Maybe, lacrosse is still a relatively niche sport, so there isn't much publicity about lacrosse recruiting and the sport in general compared to other sports?
A direct comparison is not possible.

Duke Class of 2007, the average SAT score for male non-athletes was 1438. There were 8 recruited baseball players whose SAT score averaged 1206; that's a 232 point difference. For the 14 other male athletes (non-baseball/basketball/football- so recruited lacrosse players are among the mix), the score was 1258. So that's a 183 point difference. Yes, football and basketball players had even lower average scores, 1063 and 997, respectively.

Can we assume that recruited female athletes are generally treated similarly to men's lacrosse recruits by admissions offices because they don't participate in any NCAA revenue sports?

Duke Class of 2007, there were 37 committed female athletes (among all sports) whose SAT scores averaged 1258 vs 1403 for 768 female non-athletes. That's a 145 point difference.

From 1994-1997, the average Stanford and Duke female athlete had average GPA of 3.87 and 3.51 and SAT score of 1151 and 1103, respectively. Those numbers are significantly below the historical averages for those schools 25 years ago.

These days, you have no shot in getting accepted by these top schools if you are 100 points below their averages unless you have a really strong hook. Even if you EXCEED the averages for these schools, they are ALL considered reaches for even the very best students. And if athletics is your kid's hook and that school's coach isn't interested in recruiting you, do you really think he has a realistic chance of being accepted as a regular applicant? So yes, being a recruited athlete is a tremendous admissions boost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

Then don't use general terms like athletes, be specific in your argument. What are the statistics for lacrosse players on a lacrosse forum? Be specific.

Just as background
Harvard has a 3.4% acceptance rate. The average SAT for admitted students is 1520-1540. An applicant with a 1600 SAT and 4.0 GPA only has a 10% probability of getting accepted.

So anyone who gets admitted to Harvard or any top school has basically won the lottery no matter how they got in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as background
Harvard has a 3.4% acceptance rate. The average SAT for admitted students is 1520-1540. An applicant with a 1600 SAT and 4.0 GPA only has a 10% probability of getting accepted.

So anyone who gets admitted to Harvard or any top school has basically won the lottery no matter how they got in.

Too bad most of those who couldn't get in with smarts usually flunk out.

100% incorrect…..

Ya’ll buggin. Everyone know that elite athletes have a significant advantage when applying to college if the coach wants him or her bad enough. Every college coach has a certain degree of pull.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as background
Harvard has a 3.4% acceptance rate. The average SAT for admitted students is 1520-1540. An applicant with a 1600 SAT and 4.0 GPA only has a 10% probability of getting accepted.

So anyone who gets admitted to Harvard or any top school has basically won the lottery no matter how they got in.

Too bad most of those who couldn't get in with smarts usually flunk out.

Ivy League is easy to get good grades except for Dartmouth, Cornell and Princeton. They don’t inflate grades like Harvard , Brown, Yale, Columbia and Upenn. . Athletes have no trouble getting good grades. Also they don’t take only the smartest kids anymore. They take about 25 to 40 percent with much lower grades and SAT scores. They make up for it with the rest needing almost perfect scores. Since they give out Pell Grants all admissions stats are made public and easy to find.

You may not know the school very well then.
One of the unofficial mottos for Harvard is, “only thing harder than getting in is failing out.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as background
Harvard has a 3.4% acceptance rate. The average SAT for admitted students is 1520-1540. An applicant with a 1600 SAT and 4.0 GPA only has a 10% probability of getting accepted.

So anyone who gets admitted to Harvard or any top school has basically won the lottery no matter how they got in.

Too bad most of those who couldn't get in with smarts usually flunk out.

From the Harvard lawsuit

Research paper by Arcidiacono examined the admission statistics for the Harvard Class 2014-2019

Overall admission rate: < 5.5%
Overall recruited athlete admission rate: 86%

Of the 4 hooks they looked at: Athlete, Legacy, Donor, and Children of faculty, being a recruited athlete was by far the strongest hook.

According to their analysis, if a hypothetical student has a 10% chance for admission at Harvard, being a legacy increases the chance to 50%,
being a donor or double legacy increases the chance to 70%, being a recruited athlete increases the chance to a "near certainty."

Their conclusion.
"This paper has focused on the substantial preferences ALDC applicants to Harvard receive. The advantages for athletes are especially large, with an average admit rate for recruited athletes of 86%.
This high admit rate occurs despite admitted athletes often being worse on Harvard’s ratings than the (entire) applicant pool itself."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe the universities don't like to publicize their internal statistics which show how much they favor certain groups over other applicants to their schools? Maybe, lacrosse is still a relatively niche sport, so there isn't much publicity about lacrosse recruiting and the sport in general compared to other sports?
A direct comparison is not possible.

Duke Class of 2007, the average SAT score for male non-athletes was 1438. There were 8 recruited baseball players whose SAT score averaged 1206; that's a 232 point difference. For the 14 other male athletes (non-baseball/basketball/football- so recruited lacrosse players are among the mix), the score was 1258. So that's a 183 point difference. Yes, football and basketball players had even lower average scores, 1063 and 997, respectively.

Can we assume that recruited female athletes are generally treated similarly to men's lacrosse recruits by admissions offices because they don't participate in any NCAA revenue sports?

Duke Class of 2007, there were 37 committed female athletes (among all sports) whose SAT scores averaged 1258 vs 1403 for 768 female non-athletes. That's a 145 point difference.

From 1994-1997, the average Stanford and Duke female athlete had average GPA of 3.87 and 3.51 and SAT score of 1151 and 1103, respectively. Those numbers are significantly below the historical averages for those schools 25 years ago.

These days, you have no shot in getting accepted by these top schools if you are 100 points below their averages unless you have a really strong hook. Even if you EXCEED the averages for these schools, they are ALL considered reaches for even the very best students. And if athletics is your kid's hook and that school's coach isn't interested in recruiting you, do you really think he has a realistic chance of being accepted as a regular applicant? So yes, being a recruited athlete is a tremendous admissions boost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stanford and Duke also basketball and football schools. Pretty sure majority of those lower athletic standards are going to those kids. Not the wealthy white kid from the suburbs with a house in the Hamptons.

Are we ready still discussing this?

The reality is, recruited athletes get in with lower grades than the general population and the better athletes can get in with lower grades than the average recruits.

Leave Football and Basketball out of the discussion.

I doesn’t matter if we are talking Princeton, Stanford, Yale, Duke, Hopkins, Northwestern etc….
The Athletes get in with lower academic credentials.
Anyone who does not know this is simply ignorant.

Can’t leave those sports out, any school with either program is giving those athletes the admission preference. Not the lacrosse player.

You leave those sports out because they do not compare to Lacrosse or any other non-revenue sport. Lacrosse Players do get admissions preference but you can not compare college football or Basketball to lacrosse at ND, Michigan, Penn State, Virginia, Maryland, OSU, NorthCarolina, Syracuse, Villanova, Richmond, UMass, Delaware, Stony Brook, Army, Navy, Air Force, Princeton, Yale, Harvard or any other Ivy. College Football Programs carry 120 plus players on the roster and their budgets far exceed any lacrosse budget.

Then don't use general terms like athletes, be specific in your argument. What are the statistics for lacrosse players on a lacrosse forum? Be specific.

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

[/quote] Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.[/quote]

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

Still carrying on about this?

What is the point?

It is a fact that recruited athletes can get into schools with lower grades than “regular student”.

It doesn’t matter if it is Stony Brook, Hofstra, BU, High Point, Bucknell, Army, Navy, UNC, Penn Stare, Yale, Princeton, Penn etc…

Not sure what the point of this discussion is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote] Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?[/quote]

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?[/quote]

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.[/quote]

Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a c+ average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?[/quote]

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.[/quote]

Depending on the school and the player it can be much more than a "minimal boost". At the same time, they will pass on a player who they know will struggle too much academically.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.[/quote]

Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a c+ average.[/quote]

That didn’t age well now did it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.

Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a c+ average.[/quote]

That didn’t age well now did it?[/quote]

Yeah, it did. Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a C+ average. Nobody.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.[/quote]

Notre Dame? No you’re not getting in with a C+ and a 1090 no matter how good you are. If you’re a top 10 recruit in the class, Duke will get you in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You may not know the school very well then.
One of the unofficial mottos for Harvard is, “only thing harder than getting in is failing out.”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as background
Harvard has a 3.4% acceptance rate. The average SAT for admitted students is 1520-1540. An applicant with a 1600 SAT and 4.0 GPA only has a 10% probability of getting accepted.

So anyone who gets admitted to Harvard or any top school has basically won the lottery no matter how they got in.

Too bad most of those who couldn't get in with smarts usually flunk out.

No, they do not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.

Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a c+ average.[/quote]

That didn’t age well now did it?[/quote]

There are huge advantages in the admission process for lacrosse players. My sons friend, and not someone that people would consider a great player, was able to get into Stony Brook with a 2.4 GPA. Stony Brook requires a 3.8 on average for non-athletes. Of course Stony Brook is not the greatest school and has a tough time finding people who want to go there but this illustrates the type of boost you can get in admissions with lacrosse for someone who is not even a great player. Also, the kid is doing very well academically at Stony Brook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that’s a great response on the girls HS forum, now do the men. Let’s stay consistent here.

Maybe, it's because men's only lax recruiting data isn't publicly available. Why don't you provide your own data? Have you ever heard of the mathematical concept called interpolation?

No, the point is, male lacrosse players do not get a tremendous boost as is repeatedly implied here. They get a minimal “boost. That’s the painful truth for far too many lacrosse parents who thinks juniors C+ average an 1090 SAT are getting him into Duke or ND. It’s not.[/quote]

Nobody thinks their kid is getting into any top tier academic school with a c+ average.[/quote]

You're deluded if you think a lacrosse player with a low 1400 SAT and top grades with 0 hooks other than athletics is getting into a top 10 school WITHOUT being recruited by that school's coach. In fact, the cost of just getting 1 foot in the door of these prestigious schools is close to SAT 1500+ or equivalent and top 5% class rank. It's a numbers game- there are too few spots available and too many qualified students applying every year. Every year, there are over 20,000+ kids in the US who score 1500+ on the SAT with roughly 10,000 or fewer openings (outside of hooks) among the top 10 schools.. Even among students with SAT scores of 1500+, that's not enough. They want students to demonstrate significant (read- national level) excellence outside of their usual scholastic activity (e.g. Regeneron ISEF finalist, publishing scientific research, running a successful NGO, award winning writing, volunteering, nationally recognized musician). Of course, there are rare exceptions for special individuals. David Hogg got into Harvard with his 1270 SAT score because he was a survivor of the Parkland HS shootings and became a nationally recognized gun control activist. Malala Yousafzai would also get in with really low grades and scores because she won a Nobel Prize. If you think that being a nationally recognized lacrosse player means something, it doesn't unless that school's coach wants you. Every one of these schools (with D1 sports programs) already has over 1000+ varsity athletes comprising up to 23% of the student body; they don't need any more athletes, especially one who plays the same sport but isn't being recruited to play for their team.
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Best way into top schools is with sports as a recruited athlete, as long as you are in range with the grades. Second best way for non athlete is to transfer in after freshman year. Chances of being accepted as sophomore rise dramatically.

We were told this by our HS college counselor. If you are trying to get accepted by a top academic school as a recruited athlete, you are basically putting all of your eggs in one basket Because nearly all competitive athletes put most of their extracurricular time focused on sports, they really have nothing to show for in that category outside of athletics. If the coach of that school isn't interested in recruiting you, your athletic achievements essentially become meaningless to that school. And since most competitive athletes don't have any other significant extracurricular activities, you have no shot in competing against the many similarly qualified academic applicants who have.

Your hs counselor lied to you or you son is not good enough. Good luck with both!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We were told this by our HS college counselor. If you are trying to get accepted by a top academic school as a recruited athlete, you are basically putting all of your eggs in one basket Because nearly all competitive athletes put most of their extracurricular time focused on sports, they really have nothing to show for in that category outside of athletics. If the coach of that school isn't interested in recruiting you, your athletic achievements essentially become meaningless to that school. And since most competitive athletes don't have any other significant extracurricular activities, you have no shot in competing against the many similarly qualified academic applicants who have.

I strongly agree. If the coach of the school isn’t recruiting your son, the athletic achievements aren’t really impactful, unless he was like a captain or something like that.

The lack of understanding displayed throughout the discussion about recruiting and admission to college/university is truly remarkable.

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

We have beaten this topic to death. Anyone who does not understand how recruiting and admissions works has their head in the sand.

Although every situation is different, the bottom line is that recruited athletes do not need the same academic credentials as non athletes. It doesn’t matter if we are talking about Princeton, Harvard or Yale or lower academic tier schools recruited athletes are not held to the same academic standards as the general population.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

The level of help depends on how good the recruit is compared to the grades he has and what the school requires. Everyone gets some help. The higher a school has placed a kid on the recruitment list the more help he will receive. Nothing is absolute. I know one kid who got into a top lacrosse and academic Ivy through lacrosse and a weak Patriot League team could not get him through admissions. Every coach has a different relationship with admissions. Every coach evaluates talent different. Just because a top lacrosse and academic school like Yale wants a kid does not mean a weaker lacrosse college with much weaker admissions standards could get him through admissions. Every situation is different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Around and around we go…. Please stop trying to point out individual situation as if they are the norm.

Every recruit is different and every school is different and every situation is different.

To say Ivy League schools were looking for an SAT score in the 1400 range is not accurate at all. Recruiting is specific to the player and the school.

It is very simple, athletes get preferential treatment with admissions. However, not all athletes are equal, some will get more help than others. Just because a coach tells one recruit that they need certain grades or test scores does not mean every other recruit needs the same.

All of the stories are nice to hear but in the end every situation is different.

If you are going through this process for the first time or will be going through it in the future do not listen to much of the nonsense on here. Let the coaches who are interested in your son tell him/you what credentials your son will need.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

https://ivyleague.com/news/2020/8/1...o-standardized-testing-requirements.aspx

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

https://www.mka.org/uploaded/college_counseling/Publications/AI_Guidelines_Worksheet.pdf

see below as well:

How to calculate

If you’re a high school football player receiving letters from Ivy League football programs, then you should know what the Ivy League’s Academic Index (A.I.) is, and how to calculate it. Ivy League recruiters typically will not explain this.

The information presented here was drawn from College Consultant Gerald Bradshaw, conversations with teachers, coaches andother resources.

What is the Academic Index?

The Academic Index is a gauge that Ivy League coaches use to determine a player's recruitability. Approximately two-thirds of elibinlity is based a student sstandardized test score (SAT or ACT); the other third is based on your class rank (or GPA, if your school does not provide class rank).

Important fact: All Ivy League sports programs must abide by rules surrounding the index. Therefore, if your Academic Index is below the minimum level, you must raise it, or you cannot be admitted.

Ivy League schools have in the past sent out recruiting letters to students before ever calculating your index. Recruiting letters are not a guarantee of admittance.

The index shown below is just a rough approximation used by Ivy League coaches. The real Academic Index used by Ivy admissions offices involves the use of the SAT 2 exam, which most athletes have not taken.

Caluclate:

•Two Ways to Calculate
–1/3 SAT-I/ACT Average + 1/3 SAT-II Average + 1/3 Converted Rank Score
–2/3 SAT-I/ACT Average +1/3 Converted Rank Scores
•Converted Rank Score is a GPA or Class Rank Calculation (based on charts or a formula)
•Generally, 2/3 SAT-I Average + CRS is used

•Examples:
–SAT-I: CR: 680 M: 630 WR: 610
•SAT Average = 640 (64 Pts)
–SAT-II: Chemistry 590, US History 610
•SAT-II Average = 600 (60 Pts)
–High School GPA = 3.4
–Use 2/3 +1/3 Formula!
–CRS = 68 Pts
–AI = 64+64+68 = 196

What it means

If you have an Academic Index below 171, you cannot be admitted to an Ivy League school as an athlete.

For those at or above 171, the meaning of the Academic Index varies from school to school.

To precisely determine an athlete’s recruitability, the Ivy League segments all A.I.s above 171 into four “bands.” something like A, B, C, D, with A being the highest band. Using this system, an Ivy League school like Harvard, with a high Academic Index of 220 and a standard deviation of 14 would have its bands defined as follows: High: 197-210, Med: 183-196, Low: 176-182, Low-Low: 171-175.

Ivy League schools rarely, if ever, publish their mean A.I.s. It is assumed, however, that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton (in that order) have the three highest mean figures, probably at or around 220. According to the book, "Playing the Game," Dartmouth usually falls fourth at approximately 212, followed (in order) by Columbia, Pennsylvania, Brown, and Cornell.

Under the rules of the system, no school can admit more than 30 football players per year. Moreover, the schools must specifically show that prescribed numbers of recruited players fall into the bands as follows:
High band: 8 players
Med. band: 13 players
Low band: 7 players
Low-Low: 2 players

In general, however, the following is also true about the meaning of your A.I.:
1. The lower your band, the better you must be as an athlete.
2. Students who fall in the “low-low” band need to be exceptional athletes (all-state caliber players who are being recruited by Michigan or Ohio State, for example).
3. Students with A.I.s above 220 stand a better chance of being recruited, and needn’t be All-State caliber players. In fact, some Ivies have been known to pad their teams’ Academic Indices by recruiting football players with 1550 SAT scores and virtually no chance of ever seeing game action.
4. In football, offensive linemen are often recruited in the medium and high bands. Low-low bands are most often reserved for impact players: quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers.
5. Ivy admissions are tough, even for recruited athletes. All Ivy League schools start with a pool of more than a thousand players, and then whittle that pool down to 30. A typical “low-low,” therefore, will be in the top quarter of his high school class, with a 27 on the ACT (1220 SAT), and will be a first-team all-stater or even a high school All-American caliber player. A typical “high” might still be an all-conference caliber player with a 33+ ACT (1460+ SAT) and a top 5% ranking.

Finally, remember that the formula presented here is a rough approximation used by coaches. Ivy admissions officers typically want prospective students to take the SAT 2 exam before calculating their “real” Academic Index.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

So a guy you know told a guy you know! Got it, thanks for the factual information.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

Yes, there is an “academic index” at the ivy’s and there is a minimum score needed. However, every recruits situation is different so to put out that Ivy League schools were looking for 1400 is not accurate. It may have been what you were told but it is not the same for everyone. Some might be told they need 1500 while others might be told they need 1230.

The better the player the less their academic credentials need to be. You can not paint with a broad brush.

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

Yes, there is an “academic index” at the ivy’s and there is a minimum score needed. However, every recruits situation is different so to put out that Ivy League schools were looking for 1400 is not accurate. It may have been what you were told but it is not the same for everyone. Some might be told they need 1500 while others might be told they need 1230.

The better the player the less their academic credentials need to be. You can not paint with a broad brush.

Just my anecdotes. I doubt anyone on this forum is a college coach or an admissions officer who can provide detailed intelligence. So I doubt anyone here can do any better.

I did write this, "WANTED SAT scores (meaning not absolutely required) in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with SOME EXCEPTIONS." So it was clearly meant to be a generalization. However, with the AI rules in place during that time; I find it hard to believe that there were many lacrosse players with scores 1300 or lower who would get through the admissions office.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

2020 and 2021 recruiting classes: Ivy League schools wanted SAT scores in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with some exceptions
2022 and ?2023 recruiting classes: SAT/ACT scores were no longer required by the Ivy League for recruited lax players

Source of this information?

Personal experience and info from kid's older teammates who committed to those schools
Have you ever heard of the Ivy League's Academic Index? There was an Ivy League overall requirement for athletic recruits to fall within a prescribed academic band.

Yes, there is an “academic index” at the ivy’s and there is a minimum score needed. However, every recruits situation is different so to put out that Ivy League schools were looking for 1400 is not accurate. It may have been what you were told but it is not the same for everyone. Some might be told they need 1500 while others might be told they need 1230.

The better the player the less their academic credentials need to be. You can not paint with a broad brush.

Just my anecdotes. I doubt anyone on this forum is a college coach or an admissions officer who can provide detailed intelligence. So I doubt anyone here can do any better.

I did write this, "WANTED SAT scores (meaning not absolutely required) in the 1400 range for recruited lax players with SOME EXCEPTIONS." So it was clearly meant to be a generalization. However, with the AI rules in place during that time; I find it hard to believe that there were many lacrosse players with scores 1300 or lower who would get through the admissions office.

It I s very simple, the team AI (the average of every individual AI of each admitted athlete) must be within 1 standard deviation of the campus Academic Index. For every kid with a low AI, the coach must bring in a kid with a high AI so that the team average is close to the overall campus AI. Obviously there is a minimum acceptable AI score so all admitted athletes must have decent academic credentials.

Keep in mind, coaches do bring in “recruits” that know they will never see the field. These are players that have exceptional grades and test scores, perfect or near perfect test scores and 100 + average with a challenging curriculum all honors/AP/IB etc… they boost the average.

The top recruits in the class can have significantly lower credentials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

No disagreement- an Ivy League coach can balance a low academically performing athlete by a recruiting one or many high academically performing athlete.

But a coach can't fill his bulk of his roster with "low academically performing athlete." Since football and basketball team recruits are accepted with the lowest scores, non-revenue sports teams are usually required to present higher AI rosters to Admissions to offset the lower scores of football/basketball players. My impression is that that the SAT 1300 lax-recruited player is more the exception than the rule.

For the Harvard admissions process, A SAT 1300 level student actually gets an academic score of 4 (or borderline 3) on a 5 point score. Normally, only applicants with overall scores of 1-2 make it to the admissions office committee phase to be voted on. So that is a pretty big academic gap compared with the typical non-athlete applicant who makes it to the admission committee evaluation process.

From the Harvard Crimson, "Here’s How the Harvard Admissions Process Really Works"

"In order to score an academic 1, an applicant must be a “potential major academic contributor” with “summa potential” and “near-perfect scores and grades.” It also helps if the high schooler has “national or international level recognition in academic competitions.”

Those who earn an academic 2 typically score in the mid-700s or higher on the SAT — or 33 or higher on the ACT. An academic 3 denotes an applicant with “mid-600 through low-700 scores” on the SAT or a 29 through 32 on the ACT.

A student with an academic 4, meanwhile, typically boasts “low-to mid-600 scores” on the SAT and between a 26 and 29 on the ACT — academic achievements the admissions office call “adequate preparation” for Harvard. Students who draw a 5 academic ranking typically earn SAT scores in the 500s or an ACT score clocking in at 25 or below. Harvard asserts these high schoolers have only “marginal potential.”

The Class of 2023 reading procedures indicate that all applications with a 2- overall score or better should make it to the committee phase. The first reader decides on a case-by-case basis whether those who earn a 3+ will proceed, while those scoring a 3 or worse typically do not advance."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

So in summary, your average academic student got into an average academic D-1 program. So……..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]My son is a junior on 9/1 eleven schools reached out. Not DUKE, ND, Virginia etc. However hey were all D-1 schools and he has a 89 average and hasn't taken the SAT yet so far not one school has said he wont get in academically. Bottom line he is an average student and that is fine and Lax is going to get him into one of those schools FACT. Without Lax he wouldn't be considered.

Without lax maybe he would have studied and had the grade for the schools that didn't call. just sayin. Average grades, average schools, average job offers.......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Lol, UVA and UNC are not elite. They are not even top 20 schools. You really can't put them in the same conversation as a top 10 private. Great schools just not in the same league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

There has not been a single post on here stating that kids are getting into Ivy League schools with an 85 average.

It appears the argument is from people like you who refuse to acknowledge that without Lacrosse your son would have zero chance of getting into an Ivy.

So, to go from zero chance to actually being accepted is “significant” help.

It is not the parents means or the elite private school or their grades that help kids get into Ivy League schools it is Lacrosse. Without Lacrosse 90 of the rosters would not have been admitted. That is true at most programs, not just Ivy’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Lacrosse most certainly does "significantly" improve an athletes chances for admission to Ivy League schools. As for the "public" school kids from Long Island or anywhere for that matter you should be very thankful that they choose to attend Ivy League schools because over the years Ivy League Teams would be very pedestrian without them.

One thing yall are missing here is the high academic student who is maybe not a top prospect that will be offered a spot on the team and a good financial package because he/she will bring up that AI score for a better prospect with worse grades. A student at mywife's HS got into Yale and a full ride, Girls Soccer, because she was 1500+ sat and 4.0+ Academically, she was fine. Her athletics was borderline, but her grades got her the D1 ride.. For every recruit with marginal grades, there needs to be one on the other end..

I really don't understand how anyone can argue with a straight face that getting recruited for lacrosse was NOT a significant, if not the only reason, how these kids got admitted to a top school.

Facts:
1. Recruited athletes have significantly lower academic profiles compared to non-recruited applicants who matriculate at the same school.
2. Recruited Harvard athlete has an 86% acceptance rate when the overall acceptance rate was 5%. Recruited athletes were 1000 times more likely in getting admitted compared to non-athletes.
These odds were significantly better than other favored categories including donor, single legacy, double legacy, or children of Harvard faculty. The paper actually concluded that being a recruited athlete was by far the best way to get accepted by Harvard.
3. Most recruited athletes score a 3 or lower in Harvard's admissions academic score, which effectively means they have 0 chance of getting in as a regular applicant. Only 1s and 2s make it to the Admissions Committee phase for the acceptance vote.

The only argument that's been made is that lacrosse players weren't specifically looked at. Somehow lacrosse players are different compared to recruited athletes of the other 30-40 non-revenue sports teams?

1500+ SAT and 4.0+ GPA are stellar credentials, but Yale is still a reach for everyone. There's no way of knowing whether she would have been accepted to Yale if she wasn't recruited to play soccer.
I don't know if AI scores are applicable anymore, since SAT subject tests are no longer offered and the schools are now test optional- even for athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really don't understand how anyone can argue with a straight face that getting recruited for lacrosse was NOT a significant, if not the only reason, how these kids got admitted to a top school.

Facts:
1. Recruited athletes have significantly lower academic profiles compared to non-recruited applicants who matriculate at the same school.
2. Recruited Harvard athlete has an 86% acceptance rate when the overall acceptance rate was 5%. Recruited athletes were 1000 times more likely in getting admitted compared to non-athletes.
These odds were significantly better than other favored categories including donor, single legacy, double legacy, or children of Harvard faculty. The paper actually concluded that being a recruited athlete was by far the best way to get accepted by Harvard.
3. Most recruited athletes score a 3 or lower in Harvard's admissions academic score, which effectively means they have 0 chance of getting in as a regular applicant. Only 1s and 2s make it to the Admissions Committee phase for the acceptance vote.

The only argument that's been made is that lacrosse players weren't specifically looked at. Somehow lacrosse players are different compared to recruited athletes of the other 30-40 non-revenue sports teams?

Because it's not significant. it's slight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Lacrosse most certainly does "significantly" improve an athletes chances for admission to Ivy League schools. As for the "public" school kids from Long Island or anywhere for that matter you should be very thankful that they choose to attend Ivy League schools because over the years Ivy League Teams would be very pedestrian without them.

Based on what factual evidence?

If you have no chance of getting admitted because you are a 3 or 4 on their academic scale, it’s a lot more than a “slight.”

Going from 0% (no sports) to100% probability (recruited athlete) of getting accepted by a top school- it’s not mathematically possible to find a bigger difference in outcome.

Harvard is letting anyone in based on lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Lacrosse most certainly does "significantly" improve an athletes chances for admission to Ivy League schools. As for the "public" school kids from Long Island or anywhere for that matter you should be very thankful that they choose to attend Ivy League schools because over the years Ivy League Teams would be very pedestrian without them.

Based on what factual evidence?

Factual evidence of what? The fact that Lacrosse players get significant help with admissions or the fact that over the years Ivy Lacrosse Teams would be very pedestrian without their Public School kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harvard is letting anyone in based on lacrosse.

Isn't that the same for any school?
If the lacrosse coach wants you and you meet the minimum academic standards established by the admissions office (meaning you got a pre-read green light), you are in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harvard is letting anyone in based on lacrosse.

Such an ignorant statement. What happened, Harvard commit some kids with lower grades than your kid?

The kids that commit to Harvard all have good grades, they may have zero chance of getting in on their own but they all have very good grades.

Green is not a very attractive color.

There is no shame in not getting accepted into a top 10 academic school. So many applicants have extraordinary credentials and don't get selected. It's amazing that their average GPA is 4+ and SAT score is over 1500. If you remove their special populations: recruited athlete, donor, legacy, faculty children, under-represented minority, first generation college student (all of whom potentially account more than 1/2 of the admitted class), how much higher would those averages as well as those extracurricular standards get? It really is an impossible academic standard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shame in not getting accepted into a top 10 academic school. So many applicants have extraordinary credentials and don't get selected. It's amazing that their average GPA is 4+ and SAT score is over 1500. If you remove their special populations: recruited athlete, donor, legacy, faculty children, under-represented minority, first generation college student (all of whom potentially account more than 1/2 of the admitted class), how much higher would those averages as well as those extracurricular standards get? It really is an impossible academic standard.

I can't speak for lacrosse because I have a son who is not of a recruiting age yet but I do have a son that swims in the Ivy League and he had a 93 average and 1180 on his SAT. There was a ZERO percent chance that he was getting in without swimming. He was an All America in HS and now is doing well academically and athletically but I will reiterate he was not going Ivy without swimming. For athletes the standards are less but that is because they have excelled in other areas and colleges (including the Ivies) want students who bring other things to the school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harvard is letting anyone in based on lacrosse.

Isn't that the same for any school?
If the lacrosse coach wants you and you meet the minimum academic standards established by the admissions office (meaning you got a pre-read green light), you are in.

Harder for lacrosse kid to to get into a “Little Ivy” NESCAC school like Williams or Amherst than Harvard or Yale. Much smaller schools (+/- 1600 students) and coaches have far less pull…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, football is quite different from lacrosse. I would challenge anyone on here to go the Ivy rosters and see where all those kids went to HS. A whole lot of privates, very few publics.

Only real difference at an Ivy is the amount of players. They still need to average out the Team AI.

Not sure what your point is regarding public or private. My oldest went to a public HS and I believe there were 9 athletes from the same graduation class that went on to compete at Ivy League schools .

I think most college lacrosse rosters are filled with kids from private schools (not just the Ivy’s)

The point is, the ridiculous argument that lacrosse “significantly “ improves an athlete’s chances for admissions. The vast majority of players at Ivy League schools are excellent students from elite private HS programs and families of means. They are not 85 GPA 1200 SAT students from a LI public as some here would have you believe. This is also true for those athletes going to elite programs and schools ie UVA, UNC and ND.

Lacrosse most certainly does "significantly" improve an athletes chances for admission to Ivy League schools. As for the "public" school kids from Long Island or anywhere for that matter you should be very thankful that they choose to attend Ivy League schools because over the years Ivy League Teams would be very pedestrian without them.

Based on what factual evidence?

Factual evidence of what? The fact that Lacrosse players get significant help with admissions or the fact that over the years Ivy Lacrosse Teams would be very pedestrian without their Public School kids?

What exactly is significant? What are you basing this on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you have no chance of getting admitted because you are a 3 or 4 on their academic scale, it’s a lot more than a “slight.”

Going from 0% (no sports) to100% probability (recruited athlete) of getting accepted by a top school- it’s not mathematically possible to find a bigger difference in outcome.

No it’s slight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing yall are missing here is the high academic student who is maybe not a top prospect that will be offered a spot on the team and a good financial package because he/she will bring up that AI score for a better prospect with worse grades. A student at mywife's HS got into Yale and a full ride, Girls Soccer, because she was 1500+ sat and 4.0+ Academically, she was fine. Her athletics was borderline, but her grades got her the D1 ride.. For every recruit with marginal grades, there needs to be one on the other end..

What exactly is a yall?

My son went to a showcase in Maryland recently. Beforehand we did some research on some me schools to see who had his intended major and what seemed a good lacrosse fit. He reached out ahead of time to contact coaches saying he’d be there, sent tape, etc. pretty quick afterwards 2 of them reached out and basically said you’d be a good fit, come visit, etc. we then started getting emails from the school about the admissions process, open houses, after we expressed possible interest back. It’s still very early in the school search process, how should we handle those schools that reached out? Are they possible? Maybe but at this point just dipping our toe in. Are the expecting us to get heavily involved in some way? He’s a junior middie (really the faceoff part is what they want). D3 schools. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shame in not getting accepted into a top 10 academic school. So many applicants have extraordinary credentials and don't get selected. It's amazing that their average GPA is 4+ and SAT score is over 1500. If you remove their special populations: recruited athlete, donor, legacy, faculty children, under-represented minority, first generation college student (all of whom potentially account more than 1/2 of the admitted class), how much higher would those averages as well as those extracurricular standards get? It really is an impossible academic standard.

I can't speak for lacrosse because I have a son who is not of a recruiting age yet but I do have a son that swims in the Ivy League and he had a 93 average and 1180 on his SAT. There was a ZERO percent chance that he was getting in without swimming. He was an All America in HS and now is doing well academically and athletically but I will reiterate he was not going Ivy without swimming. For athletes the standards are less but that is because they have excelled in other areas and colleges (including the Ivies) want students who bring other things to the school.

That’s a great story even if it isn’t lacrosse related. Congratulations to your som for both his academic and athletic success in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing yall are missing here is the high academic student who is maybe not a top prospect that will be offered a spot on the team and a good financial package because he/she will bring up that AI score for a better prospect with worse grades. A student at mywife's HS got into Yale and a full ride, Girls Soccer, because she was 1500+ sat and 4.0+ Academically, she was fine. Her athletics was borderline, but her grades got her the D1 ride.. For every recruit with marginal grades, there needs to be one on the other end..

What exactly is a yall?

It’s a youse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shame in not getting accepted into a top 10 academic school. So many applicants have extraordinary credentials and don't get selected. It's amazing that their average GPA is 4+ and SAT score is over 1500. If you remove their special populations: recruited athlete, donor, legacy, faculty children, under-represented minority, first generation college student (all of whom potentially account more than 1/2 of the admitted class), how much higher would those averages as well as those extracurricular standards get? It really is an impossible academic standard.

I can't speak for lacrosse because I have a son who is not of a recruiting age yet but I do have a son that swims in the Ivy League and he had a 93 average and 1180 on his SAT. There was a ZERO percent chance that he was getting in without swimming. He was an All America in HS and now is doing well academically and athletically but I will reiterate he was not going Ivy without swimming. For athletes the standards are less but that is because they have excelled in other areas and colleges (including the Ivies) want students who bring other things to the school.

That is not possible. I read on hear that only football and basketball players receive “significant” assistance with admissions. Ivy Lacrosse players are all incredible students, attended elite private schools and come from families of means. No way a Lacrosse player from one of those dreadful Long Island Public Schools could get into an Ivy with grades like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son went to a showcase in Maryland recently. Beforehand we did some research on some me schools to see who had his intended major and what seemed a good lacrosse fit. He reached out ahead of time to contact coaches saying he’d be there, sent tape, etc. pretty quick afterwards 2 of them reached out and basically said you’d be a good fit, come visit, etc. we then started getting emails from the school about the admissions process, open houses, after we expressed possible interest back. It’s still very early in the school search process, how should we handle those schools that reached out? Are they possible? Maybe but at this point just dipping our toe in. Are the expecting us to get heavily involved in some way? He’s a junior middie (really the faceoff part is what they want). D3 schools. Thanks in advance.

Unless your son has zero interest in attending the school I would have him engage and start the process, see where it goes. If he has a genuine interest in a particular school, make sure all of the coaches at the school know he is legitimately interested. Even if his interest is only moderate he should engage, it’s good experience and when other coaches ask who else he is talking to he will have some schools. Coaches know what they like but they also like validation.

Without lax maybe he would have studied and had the grade for the schools that didn't call. just sayin. Average grades, average schools, average job offers.......

I wasn't the original poster about this, but to be clear unless you go to an IVY or ND, Duke, Virginia etc... you will only receive average job offers. Got it so gentlemen get ready 99% of the boys on here are going to ONLY get average jobs, they will never amount to anything in life.

Above post raises interesting issue about coaches asking who else a kid is talking to. My son is at a D1 school now and my position during his recruitment was essentially “none of your business.” I prepped him to keep it more polite but still very general:“some Big East schools, Patriot League, schools, etc.”. Don’t mention other schools specifically by name. Others may disagree, but that was our approach and the coaches we spoke to never balked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no shame in not getting accepted into a top 10 academic school. So many applicants have extraordinary credentials and don't get selected. It's amazing that their average GPA is 4+ and SAT score is over 1500. If you remove their special populations: recruited athlete, donor, legacy, faculty children, under-represented minority, first generation college student (all of whom potentially account more than 1/2 of the admitted class), how much higher would those averages as well as those extracurricular standards get? It really is an impossible academic standard.

I can't speak for lacrosse because I have a son who is not of a recruiting age yet but I do have a son that swims in the Ivy League and he had a 93 average and 1180 on his SAT. There was a ZERO percent chance that he was getting in without swimming. He was an All America in HS and now is doing well academically and athletically but I will reiterate he was not going Ivy without swimming. For athletes the standards are less but that is because they have excelled in other areas and colleges (including the Ivies) want students who bring other things to the school.

That is not possible. I read on hear that only football and basketball players receive “significant” assistance with admissions. Ivy Lacrosse players are all incredible students, attended elite private schools and come from families of means. No way a Lacrosse player from one of those dreadful Long Island Public Schools could get into an Ivy with grades like that.

You read it right!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Above post raises interesting issue about coaches asking who else a kid is talking to. My son is at a D1 school now and my position during his recruitment was essentially “none of your business.” I prepped him to keep it more polite but still very general:“some Big East schools, Patriot League, schools, etc.”. Don’t mention other schools specifically by name. Others may disagree, but that was our approach and the coaches we spoke to never balked.

If you are talking to schools that are at the same level or better (lacrosse) than the school that is asking, definitely name the schools. If they are lower tier than the school that is asking be vague.

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

In the past (pre-Covid) the minimum Academic Index score in order to be accepted was 171.

Ivy’s do not offer athletic scholarships.

Ivy’s offer extremely generous need based financial aid and there are many from Long Island who qualify especially if they have multiple kids in college.

IMHO, if your kid gets recruited by Ivy League schools he should at the very least explore the opportunities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

And if your HS age student enters college when your older son is still in college the cost of 28k will go down to 14K…. For many families, Ivy need based aid is better than an athletic scholarship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Where's the guy(s) who said that playing sports (specifically lacrosse) only SLIGHTLY improves your chance of getting admitted to an Ivy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Must have missed the 90 GPA......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Must have missed the 90 GPA......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Must have missed the 90 GPA......

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Must have missed the 90 GPA......

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.[/quote]

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Must have missed the 90 GPA......

That is definitely not the norm for an Ivy and I would venture is an exception to the rule. Also all Ivy Schools are need based financial aid and require FAFSA forms to be submitted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

You are correct. The standards are higher and aid for Ivys is need based. Most aid from other schools is Merit Based Scholarships so grades will matter.

Also depends on how much revenue a sport brings into a college. Rules for football recruiting are drastically different than other sports .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

You are correct. The standards are higher and aid for Ivys is need based. Most aid from other schools is Merit Based Scholarships so grades will matter.

The stronger the school is academically the less (if any at all) merit based aid will be available.

Ivy admissions for recruited athletes can be for some much different than the requirements for regular students. The requirements can and do vary significantly for recruited athletes within the same recruiting class. The average AI (or whatever they are using now) for the class must be close to the average AI for the entire student body. To simplify, if they were only looking at SAT at Princeton is 1450 than the team average must be close to that (they used to say team average had to be within one standard deviation of the campus average).

The studs can get in with much lower grades than the regular students. Some recruits will need to have grades similar to the average and some recruits will need to have grades that are better (perfect or near perfect) than the campus average.

Go to each schools Financial Aid Calculator and punch in you info, you will get an approximate net cost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also depends on how much revenue a sport brings into a college. Rules for football recruiting are drastically different than other sports .

Not really.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

You are correct. The standards are higher and aid for Ivys is need based. Most aid from other schools is Merit Based Scholarships so grades will matter.

The stronger the school is academically the less (if any at all) merit based aid will be available.

Ivy admissions for recruited athletes can be for some much different than the requirements for regular students. The requirements can and do vary significantly for recruited athletes within the same recruiting class. The average AI (or whatever they are using now) for the class must be close to the average AI for the entire student body. To simplify, if they were only looking at SAT at Princeton is 1450 than the team average must be close to that (they used to say team average had to be within one standard deviation of the campus average).

The studs can get in with much lower grades than the regular students. Some recruits will need to have grades similar to the average and some recruits will need to have grades that are better (perfect or near perfect) than the campus average.

Go to each schools Financial Aid Calculator and punch in you info, you will get an approximate net cost.

I’ve heard that some ivys are more lenient than others when it comes to athletes. I know of a kid that was accepted to Cornel with very low 90’s GPA (not sure of SAT) and he was basically paying SUNY instate tuition. Think I heard that Yale also was easier to get into for athletes. The Cornel info came directly from the dad. Not sure about rest of schools. Know anything about that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

You are correct. The standards are higher and aid for Ivys is need based. Most aid from other schools is Merit Based Scholarships so grades will matter.

The stronger the school is academically the less (if any at all) merit based aid will be available.

Ivy admissions for recruited athletes can be for some much different than the requirements for regular students. The requirements can and do vary significantly for recruited athletes within the same recruiting class. The average AI (or whatever they are using now) for the class must be close to the average AI for the entire student body. To simplify, if they were only looking at SAT at Princeton is 1450 than the team average must be close to that (they used to say team average had to be within one standard deviation of the campus average).

The studs can get in with much lower grades than the regular students. Some recruits will need to have grades similar to the average and some recruits will need to have grades that are better (perfect or near perfect) than the campus average.

Go to each schools Financial Aid Calculator and punch in you info, you will get an approximate net cost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the minimum gpa/sat that an ivy will consider? And are there any scholarship $’s available for lacrosse players? Being from LI, I’m sure that absolutely no one qualifies for any financial aid. Not looking to pay a 70k sticker price for an ivy.

My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

Sounds like top tier recruits can get into Ivy League Schools with somewhere around 1200 or equivalent ACT and approximately 90 GPA….

Thought the standard was considerably higher. Can anyone else confirm that? That pretty much sums up my kid. My family income is 200k with no one else in college. Already had a kid go through college, and I never qualified for a dime of financial aid. There was no recruiting involved and the schools we looked at certainly were no where near ivy, but thought all financial aid award/criteria was pretty much the same. Apparently ivys are different?

You are correct. The standards are higher and aid for Ivys is need based. Most aid from other schools is Merit Based Scholarships so grades will matter.

The stronger the school is academically the less (if any at all) merit based aid will be available.

Ivy admissions for recruited athletes can be for some much different than the requirements for regular students. The requirements can and do vary significantly for recruited athletes within the same recruiting class. The average AI (or whatever they are using now) for the class must be close to the average AI for the entire student body. To simplify, if they were only looking at SAT at Princeton is 1450 than the team average must be close to that (they used to say team average had to be within one standard deviation of the campus average).

The studs can get in with much lower grades than the regular students. Some recruits will need to have grades similar to the average and some recruits will need to have grades that are better (perfect or near perfect) than the campus average.

Go to each schools Financial Aid Calculator and punch in you info, you will get an approximate net cost.

What do these schools do when Sept 1st rolls around and these kids have not yet taken the SAT or ACT?

https://www.suny.edu/campuses/cornell/

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

I know a kid who’s dad’s second cousins uncle Fred told my neighbors neighbor that he got into Harvard with a 2.0 GPA and a 4 on the SAT. True story!!

Yes, true and he is widely considered the densest janitor there. Right behind you. Did you guys have this discussion in the break room?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down.

Such a worthless post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down.

You have issues! I hope the black hole that is your life turns around for you soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, true and he is widely considered the densest janitor there. Right behind you. Did you guys have this discussion in the break room?

Ahhhh, the Wall Street snob is back!! What’s wrong, kid won’t talk to you again? Ex-wife didn’t like the fact that you were always coked up and with hookers? What a laughable caricature you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down.

Such a worthless post.

We all know where you went!

How was the IL ID event today? Which teams stood out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cornell has a land grant program in which certain schools within the University pay lower tuition … whether an athlete or not. And they get exact same diploma as kids who pay full freight.

Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down.

Such a worthless post.

We all know where you went!

No, you do not. The post is as worthless and as void of character as you are.

First off, a Diploma is earned by graduating from high school and a Degree is awarded from institutions of higher learning, colleges or universities. The state vs. private colleges at Cornell are all highly regarded. The "which school" snobbery is far more prevalent amongst Cornellians than non Cornell educated people. There are an outsized number of Cornell grads in finance from the private side and the state side (where the business major actually resides). Go Big Red!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off, a Diploma is earned by graduating from high school and a Degree is awarded from institutions of higher learning, colleges or universities. The state vs. private colleges at Cornell are all highly regarded. The "which school" snobbery is far more prevalent amongst Cornellians than non Cornell educated people. There are an outsized number of Cornell grads in finance from the private side and the state side (where the business major actually resides). Go Big Red!

Which school? ….. I thought so.

Arts & Sciences...

"Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down."

LOL. Clearly written by someone that did not attend Cornell or likely ever even stepped foot on the campus given their lack of knowledge of the intertwined nature of the various colleges, requirements and student interactions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down."

LOL. Clearly written by someone that did not attend Cornell or likely ever even stepped foot on the campus given their lack of knowledge of the intertwined nature of the various colleges, requirements and student interactions.

I would be happy for my son to have state version of the Cornell diploma!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down."

LOL. Clearly written by someone that did not attend Cornell or likely ever even stepped foot on the campus given their lack of knowledge of the intertwined nature of the various colleges, requirements and student interactions.

I would be happy for my son to have state version of the Cornell diploma!!

One of these things is not like the others,
one of these things is not the same!

"One of these things is not like the others,
one of these things is not the same!"

Thank you for your value added post...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Same diploma maybe, but people who know are aware that the state version of Cornell is not real Cornell. I’m sure it works on the surface to say you went there, but when the question is asked, the house of cards comes tumbling down."

LOL. Clearly written by someone that did not attend Cornell or likely ever even stepped foot on the campus given their lack of knowledge of the intertwined nature of the various colleges, requirements and student interactions.

I would be happy for my son to have state version of the Cornell diploma!!

One of these things is not like the others,
one of these things is not the same!

I would be happy for my son to have state version of the Cornell diploma!!

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Not facts at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Not facts at all.

What’s the facts then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Not facts at all.

What’s the facts then?

I would say it's a partially accurate statement, the "most" part is inaccurate. Some flame out, but hardly most. Most kids will ride the bench, that's just the numbers. The coach of your kid's team is looking for his replacement every single year, that's a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Not facts at all.

What’s the facts then?

I would say it's a partially accurate statement, the "most" part is inaccurate. Some flame out, but hardly most. Most kids will ride the bench, that's just the numbers. The coach of your kid's team is looking for his replacement every single year, that's a fact.

Yes, that’s better.

Lots of kids drop out. Many transfer. That’s all true. But that’s because playing D1 lacrosse anywhere is really, really hard. Like crazy hard and most kids (and their parents) don’t have a clue how hard until they’re on campus and knee deep in it. Go to a Top 10 lax school and you can ramp it up even more: long hours, grad transfers constantly coming in…. And on and on it goes.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Originally Posted by laxlurker

Couple of facts for you. Most D1 college lax players flame out. If you play for the right travel team and really push hard, you can get into a D1 lax program. Let's face it, the lax parent is recruiting the school more than the school is recruiting the player in many cases. Staying and playing is a whole different ball game. There are countless stories of kids that stop playing lax when they get to college, they transfer, etc. "I don't like it here in the middle of nowhere where I have to take 2 plane trips and the coach yells at me and I'm riding the bench". Using lax to get into a school you normally couldn't get into is usually a good thing. However, there are cases where Johnny is not a bright bulb and he will just not fit in at a top academic institution. Especially if he is struggling to stay on the lax team. It is extremely difficult for a white male from LI with perfect grades to get into an Ivy. If lax can help that kid, or the kid that's in the mid to high 90's GPA, that is great.

Most DI Lacrosse players do not flame out. If you play for the “right” club team you are most likely a very good player that works very hard, that is why you may get the opportunity to to play DI Lacrosse. Let’s face it, the coach recruits the player, they don’t listen to overbearing parents. Staying and playing is not really a whole different ballgame, many more stay than leave. There are countless stories of players who continue playing and do not transfer. Using Lacrosse to get into a school that you wouldn’t get into is a good thing and most players do just fine even at top academic institutions. Most do not struggle to stay on the team, most if not all have to work hard and compete every day in order to earn playing time. Congratulations to any kid who gets into an Ivy or any school for that matter if lacrosse helps them get in , stay in, compete, make friends for life and enjoy the ride.

Some kids quit.

There were 24 "recruits" in my freshman class. Not all were offered admissions help or received any lacrosse related benefits, but that is how many were in the room and in the program my freshman year. D1 school. Played in the National Championship (and lost) that same year. There were seven of us on the roster as seniors. It is a grind and competitive but fun for those whose passion it was. Many that did not play four years were great players, but it was not their passion and they found other passions while in college when left to make their own independent choices.

24 players is.a lot for a single recruiting year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were 24 "recruits" in my freshman class. Not all were offered admissions help or received any lacrosse related benefits, but that is how many were in the room and in the program my freshman year. D1 school. Played in the National Championship (and lost) that same year. There were seven of us on the roster as seniors. It is a grind and competitive but fun for those whose passion it was. Many that did not play four years were great players, but it was not their passion and they found other passions while in college when left to make their own independent choices.

Navy?

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"One of these things is not like the others,
one of these things is not the same!"

Thank you for your value added post...

You are welcome

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Please stay where you are. The last thing LI needs is another lax nut relocating here. I seriously hope this was somebody trolling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Jericho, Roslyn, or Great Neck are superior lacrosse towns with low taxes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Jericho, Roslyn, or Great Neck are superior lacrosse towns with low taxes.

You failed to mention they are also the top performing academic districts on LI, and their graduates go on to the top universities at almost 100% graduate rate.

"24 players is.a lot for a single recruiting year."

Agreed. That is why I put "recruits" the way I did. Walk-ons, transfers, and kids who were ok'd to tryout. not a service academy.

My point was a lot of washout, even if the actual number of kids that received some sort of benefit as a priority recruit was only 12 or so +/-

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Jericho, Roslyn, or Great Neck are superior lacrosse towns with low taxes.

You failed to mention they are also the top performing academic districts on LI, and their graduates go on to the top universities at almost 100% graduate rate.

Manhasset & GC are nice towns.

Thanks for the info. How many of the 24 freshman actually got a roster spot on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks for the info. How many of the 24 freshman actually got a roster spot on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Jericho, Roslyn, or Great Neck are superior lacrosse towns with low taxes.

You failed to mention they are also the top performing academic districts on LI, and their graduates go on to the top universities at almost 100% graduate rate.

Manhasset & GC are nice towns.

If you can aford it , Manhasset (tough to get on varsity team and play) ColdSpring Harbor (nice, prob easier to Get on varsity and play) ! Then there is Northport! Way more affordable and down to earth… and, a great lacrosse school!! Depends on level of play your daughter is and lifestyle you want? Manhasset and Coldspring Harbor is Name brands, country club memberships, etc… Northports yacht club is more like a local nice elks club feel. Way more down to earth. You should visit the towns , all three are on the Northshore. There are also plenty of other really nice towns on Southshore (nicer beaches) with great lacrosse! Great lacrosse all over on LI! Depends on your families lifestyle and budget!

Most schools in Nassau are good. Does not matter where your kid plays lacrosse in high school. Club is more important. All those towns mentioned are nice but not all have good lacrosse. Pick location, academics and if it is reasonably affordable.

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

You can’t go to Harborfields if you want a better level of HS lacrosse as one of your criteria

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

Can’t go wrong with Smithtown area (East or West), Three Village area (Ward Melville). Great areas, great schools, excellent lacrosse programs at all 3 HS’s. Wide range in Home Prices …. You can find a relatively affordable modest home or a luxury Home for several million and everything in between. Go a little further and Mt Sinai has a lot to offer as does SWR. In some cases, it can be tougher to get playing time at the larger schools but all have excellent programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

Where are you moving from? How would you classify your son’s ability? Obviously it can be difficult to get playing time at the schools with stronger programs (GC, Manhasset, CHS, Smithtown E&W, WM, Mt Sinai, SWR) if you are considering those areas.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

Centerport/Harborfields is a great area!!. Good Lacrosse and great academically. More affordable than some of the Nassau towns mentioned. Def. Less congested. I do agree with the other poster, club team is important. Depends on your sons goals for lacrosse/academics in college? D1 or Ivy ? Just like towns/schools there is so many good LI clubs to try out for, depending on level of play of your child. There is a club for every level of play. We are fortunate on LI to have so much to offer in this respect. Good luck to you and your son, hope you find a great place to live on LI, where your family can be happy and your son can thrive in Lacrosse and in school!

Picking a place to live based on lacrosse is insane.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picking a place to live based on lacrosse is insane.

No, That is what it takes to be all in to lacrosse . D1 or crash and burn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picking a place to live based on lacrosse is insane.

I don’t think that was what the original poster was saying ?! They said “looking for a nice town with a good lacrosse program”. You don’t think when people move, they don’t look at a towns sports programs for their kids??!! Then you are insane. People want the whole package. Academics and Sports. Thankfully, plenty of towns check those boxes here on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m relocating my family on Long Island. Any suggestions of a nice town with a good lacrosse program for a freshman? Not interested in private schools.
Thank you in advance for help.

Jericho, Roslyn, or Great Neck are superior lacrosse towns with low taxes.

You failed to mention they are also the top performing academic districts on LI, and their graduates go on to the top universities at almost 100% graduate rate.

Manhasset & GC are nice towns.

Do Jericho and GN even have teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thank you for the feedback so far. Very helpful. Nassau seems very congested so far. Looking aound Harbor fields-Centerport tomorrow. Harbor fields is the high school for area. Will check out Cold Spring harbor and Northport also. Working my way east on island maybe Seauket-Stonybrook. Enjoying looking.

Centerport/Harborfields is a great area!!. Good Lacrosse and great academically. More affordable than some of the Nassau towns mentioned. Def. Less congested. I do agree with the other poster, club team is important. Depends on your sons goals for lacrosse/academics in college? D1 or Ivy ? Just like towns/schools there is so many good LI clubs to try out for, depending on level of play of your child. There is a club for every level of play. We are fortunate on LI to have so much to offer in this respect. Good luck to you and your son, hope you find a great place to live on LI, where your family can be happy and your son can thrive in Lacrosse and in school!

The Smithowns send a lot of lax players Ivy over the years too.

This has been one of the more civil back of the cage exchanges that I have ever seen! No disparaging and generally speaking broad advice. Well done.

Go to Massapequa great town good school good Lax program 55 min to the City 15 min to Tobay. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picking a place to live based on lacrosse is insane.

not at all. depending upon the age of your children at the time of relocation it makes perfect sense and my answer would be the same for all athletics. If you have a child entering 7th-9th grade and they excel at a particular sport then looking for them to continue to excel and surround themselves with similarly liked individuals makes perfect sense. In fact I would say the same thing for non athletes. If your child is into theater, it would be no different than looking at a school for a great arts program. Now if you are newlyweds and or have a pre K child I might think you are putting the cart before the horse :-)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picking a place to live based on lacrosse is insane.

not at all. depending upon the age of your children at the time of relocation it makes perfect sense and my answer would be the same for all athletics. If you have a child entering 7th-9th grade and they excel at a particular sport then looking for them to continue to excel and surround themselves with similarly liked individuals makes perfect sense. In fact I would say the same thing for non athletes. If your child is into theater, it would be no different than looking at a school for a great arts program. Now if you are newlyweds and or have a pre K child I might think you are putting the cart before the horse :-)

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

Dont think the poster was saying he had to live in a specific town. He asked for recommendations. I would never dare compare Massapequa to the elite CSH/GC/Manhasset. My apologies if my post came across that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Agreed. I’ve seen some real shacks in Manhasset and GC. Would rather live on the water in Pequa with my boat and jet skis in the back yard. Also nice not to have to constantly run into Tad and Bif in their pink Vinyard Vines shorts when I run up to town.

Apology accepted. Enjoy your 1/4 acre and the smoke coming in your window from your neighbors bbq.

Look at Port W. We have it all - 1/4 aces with smoke from neighbors yards and Tad and Bif in their pink vineyard vines. Also very good lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at Port W. We have it all - 1/4 aces with smoke from neighbors yards and Tad and Bif in their pink vineyard vines. Also very good lax.

Medicore lax

And so it goes. The essence of lacrosse. The game which is controlled by the almighty dollar. The official game of holdback boarding schools and snobs who are looking for nothing more than an Ivy sticker adorning the rear window of their Mercedes. as the ultimate status symbol. Looking for proof? Go no further than this recent exchange. Completely disgusting.

Looking for some clean air to breath without the traffic jam to the 7/11, where shallow people don’t pass judgement based on your possessions… and homes for every price range? Go east to Suffolk. While the Nassau boys dream of their glory days, a bygone era, Suffolk is the king of lacrosse on LI, and has been for quite some time now which by all accounts won’t be changing anytime soon based on what we know Suffolk is in the process of reloading with right now. Yup. Leave the congestion, pollution and graffiti in Nassau and come to Suffolk, the epicenter of lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Agreed. I’ve seen some real shacks in Manhasset and GC. Would rather live on the water in Pequa with my boat and jet skis in the back yard. Also nice not to have to constantly run into Tad and Bif in their pink Vinyard Vines shorts when I run up to town.

So you’ve never seen a shack in Massapequa? Also nice to not have to run into Rocco and Vinny in there wife beaters and cut off Jean shorts in town!

West Islip loses there assistant coach this should be an interesting year to say the least

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip loses there assistant coach this should be an interesting year to say the least

Bro stop living in the past. Gallose days are long gone. Above average team at best. Prob below average this year.

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Where’s he getting Mt Sinai from?? Must be from Manhasset. Lol. If you were from Suffolk, you would know that MS has always been an average team at best, prior to JS. Will be there in short order once JS heads upstate. Prob sooner actually. They lost a ton of top players to graduation. Doubt JS will be enough this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

SWR?? What planet you living on? They couldn’t get past the first round of the playoffs last year, and that’s with all of their D1 commits! This year, all their top players are gone. Attack is “OK”. Midi’s are subpar. Absolutely nothing on the defensive half of the field. Zero. They won’t make the playoffs.

How about you do some recent research before announcing your Suffolk lax elite. This ain’t 15 years ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip loses there assistant coach this should be an interesting year to say the least

Are you serious?? That’s post worthy?? An average team changes an assistant coach?!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Where’s he getting Mt Sinai from?? Must be from Manhasset. Lol. If you were from Suffolk, you would know that MS has always been an average team at best, prior to JS. Will be there in short order once JS heads upstate. Prob sooner actually. They lost a ton of top players to graduation. Doubt JS will be enough this year.

Your right, other than JS they only have a defenseman going to
Hopkins, an LSM going to cuse, a fomid going to cuse in the younger JS, one of the best 24 lefty attackmen in the class. A pretty darn good but undersized attackman that plays for the warriors, a middie going to providence… but other than JS, the cupboard is bare. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Where’s he getting Mt Sinai from?? Must be from Manhasset. Lol. If you were from Suffolk, you would know that MS has always been an average team at best, prior to JS. Will be there in short order once JS heads upstate. Prob sooner actually. They lost a ton of top players to graduation. Doubt JS will be enough this year.

Your right, other than JS they only have a defenseman going to
Hopkins, an LSM going to cuse, a fomid going to cuse in the younger JS, one of the best 24 lefty attackmen in the class. A pretty darn good but undersized attackman that plays for the warriors, a middie going to providence… but other than JS, the cupboard is bare. Lol

They will take a beatdown from Shoreham as usual. Politics and overhyped players.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

Smithtown West going down to B is pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Where’s he getting Mt Sinai from?? Must be from Manhasset. Lol. If you were from Suffolk, you would know that MS has always been an average team at best, prior to JS. Will be there in short order once JS heads upstate. Prob sooner actually. They lost a ton of top players to graduation. Doubt JS will be enough this year.

Your right, other than JS they only have a defenseman going to
Hopkins, an LSM going to cuse, a fomid going to cuse in the younger JS, one of the best 24 lefty attackmen in the class. A pretty darn good but undersized attackman that plays for the warriors, a middie going to providence… but other than JS, the cupboard is bare. Lol

They will take a beatdown from Shoreham as usual. Politics and overhyped players.

Things slow at Commack schools today?

Smithtown West will really struggle in B/C

Top of B/C is much better than top of A At least 4 or 5 losses

Good read on current state of HS Athletics;

https://grownandflown.com/elite-clu...0HtBmhi9dpe9xNcVefPnxhRwkSta8IlXKA2FfFaw

Hills should be more relevant this season with the combined East/West lacrosse team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills should be more relevant this season with the combined East/West lacrosse team.

Curious as to why they are combining schools?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good read on current state of HS Athletics;

https://grownandflown.com/elite-clu...0HtBmhi9dpe9xNcVefPnxhRwkSta8IlXKA2FfFaw

Thanks for that.
Curious how this statement plays out for different areas
These high schools can almost predict what years they will earn a state championship based on how successful the local club team is.
On LI are towns/schools/clubs aligned?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good read on current state of HS Athletics;

https://grownandflown.com/elite-clu...0HtBmhi9dpe9xNcVefPnxhRwkSta8IlXKA2FfFaw

Thanks for that.
Curious how this statement plays out for different areas
These high schools can almost predict what years they will earn a state championship based on how successful the local club team is.
On LI are towns/schools/clubs aligned?

Not really. However, for the most part it is the same school districts that are competitive year in and year out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Not sure what the future will look like but Ward Melville has certainly been the best program on The Island… at least up until a couple of years ago…. In Nassau, Garden City has been the best for a long time. That said, in this day and age pick the town that you like…. You can always go to St Anthony’s or Chaminade and there are several club options so the Town doesn’t have to have a strong youth program or tradition.

Yeah just got to St. Ants or Chaminade. Walk on and be a star. [ChillLaxin]-Hum

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah just got to St. Ants or Chaminade. Walk on and be a star. [ChillLaxin]-Hum

Why do you even post?

If looking at Suffolk, I would go with a top academic school over lacrosse. Smithtown, Cold Spring Harbor, Northport, Harborfields, Half Hollow Hills, Islip, Connetquote, Sayville, Mt Sinai, and many others are good choices. Pick the school based on academics, and use Lax as a tie breaker. I picked a school based off of academics, and I'm very happy with how both my kids ended up in college. My son is playing in college and my daughter didn't play lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hills should be more relevant this season with the combined East/West lacrosse team.

Curious as to why they are combining schools?

Demographics are changing, and Lacrosse and football rosters are way down. West had 3 8th graders starting last year. I'm sure COVID had something to do with it, but Hills went from having 2 or 3 teams in the youth program to 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If looking at Suffolk, I would go with a top academic school over lacrosse. Smithtown, Cold Spring Harbor, Northport, Harborfields, Half Hollow Hills, Islip, Connetquote, Sayville, Mt Sinai, and many others are good choices. Pick the school based on academics, and use Lax as a tie breaker. I picked a school based off of academics, and I'm very happy with how both my kids ended up in college. My son is playing in college and my daughter didn't play lax.

I would think most of the better lacrosse schools have strong academics as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All hail Suffolk! Kings of Lacrosse.

This is new. I was unaware.

I guess we will have to expand our home search to include Mt. Sinai, SWR, The Tri-Villages and Centerport to be amongst the lax elite. (Sorry WI and Smithtown runner up will not do for my brood).

Where’s he getting Mt Sinai from?? Must be from Manhasset. Lol. If you were from Suffolk, you would know that MS has always been an average team at best, prior to JS. Will be there in short order once JS heads upstate. Prob sooner actually. They lost a ton of top players to graduation. Doubt JS will be enough this year.

Your right, other than JS they only have a defenseman going to
Hopkins, an LSM going to cuse, a fomid going to cuse in the younger JS, one of the best 24 lefty attackmen in the class. A pretty darn good but undersized attackman that plays for the warriors, a middie going to providence… but other than JS, the cupboard is bare. Lol

All good LI teams have a minimum of three D1 commits, and real good ones have far more than that. Fact is they lost a ton to graduation, and have a lot of holes to fill with subpar players. Wouldn’t count them out, with JS, but definitely a big step down from last year. Once JS graduates, they are right back to mediocrity. Bank on it.

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

It comes down to what he is interested in studying, and then which school is better for that subject. Don't go to school for lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

It comes down to what he is interested in studying, and then which school is better for that subject. Don't go to school for lacrosse.

Honestly, you will not find an answer here. Only your son can decide. my 2 older kids knew the right choice when they visited their school. My Son knew the moment he met with the coach and did a tour of the school it was for him. My daughter had a similar experience. If there are doubts then maybe its not the right fit. Only he can decide and only he will know.. Use the broken leg test, if he was unable to play would he still want to attend the school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

Roll the dice. Never known living until you let those beautiful dice give you the answer. Only way to live. No regrets!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

Roll the dice. Never known living until you let those beautiful dice give you the answer. Only way to live. No regrets!

Glad to see someone else can't get enough of those pearly little cubes. Dice fa life.

Crazy to wait....those days are gone especially with the Covid backlog. 23's are sitting pretty. Pick one before they move on to someone else. This is a business to colleges. Don't think it's anything different. Best of luck. Sounds like your son is in a good spot.

Losers hit bids. If neither are the school he really wants and he has confidence in his abilities and grades put him squarely in the mix than why settle. Kids are young and usually have more confidence and want to attain their goals, its the parents that sell their own kid short and tell him to hit the bid so he can throw a sticker on his car. Perhaps $ is a consideration and he needs to take that offer, if so makes sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

Roll the dice. Never known living until you let those beautiful dice give you the answer. Only way to live. No regrets!

Glad to see someone else can't get enough of those pearly little cubes. Dice fa life.

The dice guy seems to have the most compelling argument.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Offers are not open ended (unless you are a phenom). If he doesn't accept an offer within a reasonable period of time, they will start moving down their list, and he may not have a spot anymore. Schools want kids that want them, and his silence speaks volumes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Question along the same line. My son has been to showcases etc. some prospect days. Emailing with some coaches. He’s gotten a couple emails from multiple schools saying essentially “we think you can play and hope it’s at our school”. So is that basically them saying let’s get down to details? Apply now, talk to admissions etc? These are D3 schools. If my son would consider them what’s the next step? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question along the same line. My son has been to showcases etc. some prospect days. Emailing with some coaches. He’s gotten a couple emails from multiple schools saying essentially “we think you can play and hope it’s at our school”. So is that basically them saying let’s get down to details? Apply now, talk to admissions etc? These are D3 schools. If my son would consider them what’s the next step? Thanks

Is your son a 22’ or a 23’? If he’s a 23 it’s still VERY early for D3 coaches to be recruiting him. No need to rush the process, keep in contact with them, and ask them what their timeline looks like.

If they seriously want your son they will ask for his transcript and/or SAT/ACT( if he took them), for a pre-read. They have admissions look at it to see if he can make it into the school. If it's close and he needs help, the coach will ask them to push it through. If they haven't asked for his transcript there may be other boys ahead of him. Don't be afraid to ask and be direct, otherwise they will string your son along, which happens more often than not if he's not one of the top players. good luck. The process isn't the greatest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question along the same line. My son has been to showcases etc. some prospect days. Emailing with some coaches. He’s gotten a couple emails from multiple schools saying essentially “we think you can play and hope it’s at our school”. So is that basically them saying let’s get down to details? Apply now, talk to admissions etc? These are D3 schools. If my son would consider them what’s the next step? Thanks

Is your son a 22’ or a 23’? If he’s a 23 it’s still VERY early for D3 coaches to be recruiting him. No need to rush the process, keep in contact with them, and ask them what their timeline looks like.

Email back and ask to set up a phone call. Ask to set up a visit and ask the coach straight out if there is a spot for him on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question along the same line. My son has been to showcases etc. some prospect days. Emailing with some coaches. He’s gotten a couple emails from multiple schools saying essentially “we think you can play and hope it’s at our school”. So is that basically them saying let’s get down to details? Apply now, talk to admissions etc? These are D3 schools. If my son would consider them what’s the next step? Thanks

Is your son a 22’ or a 23’? If he’s a 23 it’s still VERY early for D3 coaches to be recruiting him. No need to rush the process, keep in contact with them, and ask them what their timeline looks like.

He’s a 2023. Just wasn’t sure what this meant or how to respond. Right after this we started getting emails from admissions and other basic school emails. I figured it was early still. I appreciate the feedback.

Life

coin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Are we really still discussing this? It’s very simple, high end athletes with good (not great) academic credentials can gain acceptance into an Ivy as a recruited athlete. To say otherwise is foolish. Ivy coaches recruit both great athletes and great students sometimes they can be the same person but most of the time they are not. The majority of the recruits with grades that are higher than the average student at a particular school know that they will most likely never see the field. These are student athletes who are being recruited in order to bring the average AI up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

NESCAC's require 1400 SAT much easier to get in than scoring 1600 SAT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

No. Very few Legit DI recruits consider Williams or Amherst. Maybe very average Lacrosse players with exceptional grades and test scores who get a look from some Ivy’s because of their academic credentials will consider a NESCAC but the vast majority will not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

smart kids = smart schools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

Not accurate at all.

Does anyone know whose playing the Igloo HS Big 16 this weekend?

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know whose playing the Igloo HS Big 16 this weekend?

Is that the one at cantiague on Sunday? Cold spring harbor, south side, farm, manhasset that I know of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Where do you live? How old is your son?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Where do you live? How old is your son?

Live in Suffolk. My son is a varsity starter on a very good team. Needs work on his dodging. Only looking for elite level instruction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Where do you live? How old is your son?

Live in Suffolk. My son is a varsity starter on a very good team. Needs work on his dodging. Only looking for elite level instruction.

Not sure if they do it but I would approach SBU asst , and see if they will do it. I would pay to have them evaluate his game , determine what “type” of player he is and what “style” of play suits his athletic abilities and what style suits his physical as well as mentality / IQ.

There are many types of great attackman , Bernhardt , Sowers, O’Keefe, Ament, Thompson etc… they are all different.

One of the worst things an athlete can do is try to be something he is not. It’s ok to strengthen your weaknesses but the best players find a style of play that takes advantage of their strengths.

IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Where do you live? How old is your son?

Live in Suffolk. My son is a varsity starter on a very good team. Needs work on his dodging. Only looking for elite level instruction.

Not sure if they do it but I would approach SBU asst , and see if they will do it. I would pay to have them evaluate his game , determine what “type” of player he is and what “style” of play suits his athletic abilities and what style suits his physical as well as mentality / IQ.

There are many types of great attackman , Bernhardt , Sowers, O’Keefe, Ament, Thompson etc… they are all different.

One of the worst things an athlete can do is try to be something he is not. It’s ok to strengthen your weaknesses but the best players find a style of play that takes advantage of their strengths.

IMHO

Interesting analogy, and some good advice. Thank you. I’m going to try it. However I’d say that Thompson, Sowrs and Ament are all very close as far as what they do and how they do it, on the field. O’keefe is obviously a shooter, I’ll give you that one. Haven’t seen Bernhardt play. How do you think sowers and Ament are different? Look exactly the same to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Where do you live? How old is your son?

Live in Suffolk. My son is a varsity starter on a very good team. Needs work on his dodging. Only looking for elite level instruction.

Not sure if they do it but I would approach SBU asst , and see if they will do it. I would pay to have them evaluate his game , determine what “type” of player he is and what “style” of play suits his athletic abilities and what style suits his physical as well as mentality / IQ.

There are many types of great attackman , Bernhardt , Sowers, O’Keefe, Ament, Thompson etc… they are all different.

One of the worst things an athlete can do is try to be something he is not. It’s ok to strengthen your weaknesses but the best players find a style of play that takes advantage of their strengths.

IMHO

Interesting analogy, and some good advice. Thank you. I’m going to try it. However I’d say that Thompson, Sowrs and Ament are all very close as far as what they do and how they do it, on the field. O’keefe is obviously a shooter, I’ll give you that one. Haven’t seen Bernhardt play. How do you think sowers and Ament are different? Look exactly the same to me.

Thompson is not anything like Sowers or Ament. Different type of athletes, different style of play. Sowers and Ament are similar. Bernhardt is a different animal all together. Different type of athlete different style of play.

Having your son sit with a high level coach and watch his film can help a lot. Also, identify a high level attackman with similar athletic traits to your son and have your son study his film as well. Understanding defensive schemes goes a long way also, knowing how the defense will slide, rotate, recover etc… will allow him to make quicker and better decisions both with and without the ball more consistently. Improving his off ball game is very important as well. Obviously you can never spend too much time on stick skills and shooting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know whose playing the Igloo HS Big 16 this weekend?

Thoughts on this weekends Igloo run Big 16. We didn't get the invite even though we knocked off several the the Big 16. Coach said he's not part of the network. Does this give those teams playing a clear advantage over others? Are they even allowed to play and be coached out of season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know whose playing the Igloo HS Big 16 this weekend?

Thoughts on this weekends Igloo run Big 16. We didn't get the invite even though we knocked off several the the Big 16. Coach said he's not part of the network. Does this give those teams playing a clear advantage over others? Are they even allowed to play and be coached out of season?

It was anything special. I feel like the scout list was bogus. A lot of teams missing kids. He probably invited who he wanted to invite. No special formula to it. It was an igloo thing so that’s all you need to know right? Some kids showed up, others didn’t. fill in dads coached.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

Where are the bases out of?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

Where are the bases out of?

I think westchester and Nassau. If you start following some of these guys in Instagram, they post a decent amount of stuff your kid can work on on the side. I do it more with my younger one but you can see what they are doing and copy. As my kids have gotten older you realize how much it’s all about footwork-every sport. Like a science now compared to when we were young.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

Where are the bases out of?

Check Instagram. It’s where ever they can find a venue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

Not accurate at all.

It is though, especially early on in the process (before the players really sort themselves out by skill level).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question along the same line. My son has been to showcases etc. some prospect days. Emailing with some coaches. He’s gotten a couple emails from multiple schools saying essentially “we think you can play and hope it’s at our school”. So is that basically them saying let’s get down to details? Apply now, talk to admissions etc? These are D3 schools. If my son would consider them what’s the next step? Thanks

Is your son a 22’ or a 23’? If he’s a 23 it’s still VERY early for D3 coaches to be recruiting him. No need to rush the process, keep in contact with them, and ask them what their timeline looks like.

He’s a 2023. Just wasn’t sure what this meant or how to respond. Right after this we started getting emails from admissions and other basic school emails. I figured it was early still. I appreciate the feedback.

We are in the same boat. We have had a couple D3 schools have my kid out on visits; it may be a little early but not uncommon. The next step is to communicate with them and if they are truly interested they will set up a call or two and then a visit eventually. D3 timeline is very different from D1 in that they don’t really start making formal offers until May and June. If your son is offered then they will likely have to apply Early Decision to that school. Whomever said that offers won’t last forever is probably mostly correct though some schools may keep a spot open if they really are interested. I could be wrong as my experience is limited but this is what I’ve been told so far. Good luck and I agree, don’t rush the process.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Not sure about the guy asking you why are you asking in a “lacrosse forum” as it seems perfectly reasonable to ask. My thoughts, if it’s top 5, take it. Offers may not past for ever. If those offers are # 4 and 5 and they are a far ways away from his #1 and he really wants to go there, then you are going to have play it out. My boy has gotten some “lacrosse offers” but they ae closer to his 10-15 range and he wants to go through the academic process to see if he can get in to his higher ranked schools even if it means giving up lacrosse. So find out where your kids red-line truly is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

I can and will vouch for Coach Jack any and every day of the week. Best coach out there. Better person. If you’re really seriously looking you’d be crazy not to find a way to 2wolves. Shake School, First Class Lacrosse and Attack Academy are others but Jack is the real deal. Def a reason all the top players in CT/westchester and LI train with him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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I’m telling my 2024 son that since he already has a 93 average and is on track to score a 33 on his ACT, he doesn’t have to play lacrosse anymore because the slight advantage it is giving him to help him get into a top school is no longer necessary.

Sounds like a great idea. Get him a tutor to raise the GPA and ACT, it’s a much greater advantage.

No, it isn't. A recruited athlete with the above stats (good enough grades and 95+ percentile SAT/ACT) will have better odds of getting in to any Ivy than a valedictorian double legacy with a 1600 SAT.

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My son got into an Ivy as a lax player with a 1250 SAT. We pay $28k for an $80k school. Family income is $200k and have one other child in HS. This is a better scholarship than he would have received at a non Ivy as it is the equivalent of about 65%

If your son did play at an Ivy, you of all people should know that he was an exception and is not really representative of most of his teammates (and other Ivy recruits/prospects). Heck, a school like Harvard (usually highest AI) probably has more players with 1600s than any who score in the 1200s.

The "cutoff" for most going through the Ivy process is higher than 1250, and the vast majority of your competition will score better than that. The Ivy (and NESCAC) lacrosse recruiting world is pretty darn small -- you run across the same kids and families from the usual schools (NE prep schools, Baltimore and Philly privates, Long Island and CT publics/CHSAA, etc), so it's easy for both parents and kids to get a general idea of what you're they're against.

Why enter NESCAC into the discussion?

Because except for the absolute top recruits who choose Ivy over ACC, players looking at Harvard and Dartmouth and Brown are also considering Williams and Amherst. It's the same group of players.

Not accurate at all.

It is though, especially early on in the process (before the players really sort themselves out by skill level).[/quote]

Players looking at the school is not the same as schools looking at the players….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Not sure about the guy asking you why are you asking in a “lacrosse forum” as it seems perfectly reasonable to ask. My thoughts, if it’s top 5, take it. Offers may not past for ever. If those offers are # 4 and 5 and they are a far ways away from his #1 and he really wants to go there, then you are going to have play it out. My boy has gotten some “lacrosse offers” but they ae closer to his 10-15 range and he wants to go through the academic process to see if he can get in to his higher ranked schools even if it means giving up lacrosse. So find out where your kids red-line truly is.

Because the majority of the posters on here are not about helping anyone or are completely incorrect about anything regarding recruiting other than "what they heard"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Not sure about the guy asking you why are you asking in a “lacrosse forum” as it seems perfectly reasonable to ask. My thoughts, if it’s top 5, take it. Offers may not past for ever. If those offers are # 4 and 5 and they are a far ways away from his #1 and he really wants to go there, then you are going to have play it out. My boy has gotten some “lacrosse offers” but they ae closer to his 10-15 range and he wants to go through the academic process to see if he can get in to his higher ranked schools even if it means giving up lacrosse. So find out where your kids red-line truly is.

Because the majority of the posters on here are not about helping anyone or are completely incorrect about anything regarding recruiting other than "what they heard"

Hahaha. So true. There are a lot of angry people on this forum. It does kind of stink because there really is a paucity of helpful advice; maybe I should start a separate thread 🤔…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Not sure about the guy asking you why are you asking in a “lacrosse forum” as it seems perfectly reasonable to ask. My thoughts, if it’s top 5, take it. Offers may not past for ever. If those offers are # 4 and 5 and they are a far ways away from his #1 and he really wants to go there, then you are going to have play it out. My boy has gotten some “lacrosse offers” but they ae closer to his 10-15 range and he wants to go through the academic process to see if he can get in to his higher ranked schools even if it means giving up lacrosse. So find out where your kids red-line truly is.

Because the majority of the posters on here are not about helping anyone or are completely incorrect about anything regarding recruiting other than "what they heard"

Hahaha. So true. There are a lot of angry people on this forum. It stinks as there seems to be a paucity of actual helpful advice for people on this forums. Maybe i should start a separate thread just for this 🤔

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for top notch attack instruction. Real top shelf instruction. Not a high school or college kid. Any suggestions?

Can’t vouch for it but see them on Instagram. 2 wolves performance. Look like they know their stuff.

I can and will vouch for Coach Jack any and every day of the week. Best coach out there. Better person. If you’re really seriously looking you’d be crazy not to find a way to 2wolves. Shake School, First Class Lacrosse and Attack Academy are others but Jack is the real deal. Def a reason all the top players in CT/westchester and LI train with him.

I’m in Suffolk. Are any of these that you mention, in Suffolk? How do they compare to GLE in Hauppauge?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honest question here.

My son has two offers on the table, but still cant decide what to do. Both schools were in his top 5 but not sure if he should commit. Does he play out the fall and spring season and see what happens or commit to one of the two offers he has?

Seriously asking that here

The process is really strange in my humble opinion. 2 offers of schools in his top 5 sounds pretty good. If he likes the coaches and likes schools it seems like you are in a good spot.

Not sure about the guy asking you why are you asking in a “lacrosse forum” as it seems perfectly reasonable to ask. My thoughts, if it’s top 5, take it. Offers may not past for ever. If those offers are # 4 and 5 and they are a far ways away from his #1 and he really wants to go there, then you are going to have play it out. My boy has gotten some “lacrosse offers” but they ae closer to his 10-15 range and he wants to go through the academic process to see if he can get in to his higher ranked schools even if it means giving up lacrosse. So find out where your kids red-line truly is.

Because the majority of the posters on here are not about helping anyone or are completely incorrect about anything regarding recruiting other than "what they heard"

Hahaha. So true. There are a lot of angry people on this forum. It does kind of stink because there really is a paucity of helpful advice; maybe I should start a separate thread 🤔…

Paucity?? Yeah. I think you should. Lol.

Who are the favorites this year for both Nassau and Suffolk?

I’ll give you a hint,they have been off the Radar for a while and their in eastern Suffolk!

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’ll give you a hint,they have been off the Radar for a while and their in eastern Suffolk!

“Off the radar for a while”… Hmmm. West Hampton? Rocky Point? BBP? ESM? Sayville?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

St A's had two teams at the event?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

St A's had two teams at the event?

It was freshman split up into teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

St A's had two teams at the event?

It was freshman split up into teams

Gotta fill out the brackets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

St A's had two teams at the event?

It was freshman split up into teams

Fresh team goes was 3-0 and 1-1 not bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone playing in the coach run King of the Hills tournament this weekend? I heard it was 18 teams strong this weekend, with a number of varsity coaches eager to start playing after a lack luster and limited playing season due to COVID.

It was a decent event. Looked like a lot underclassmen playing. No real powerhouse teams, which kept the competition pretty even.

St A's had two teams at the event?

It was freshman split up into teams

Fresh team goes was 3-0 and 1-1 not bad

They couldn’t possibly lose, could they?

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

How will Syosset and Massapequa be this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

Why is CSH allowed to play in Nassau County? Why does Friends Academy play and get awards in public school leagues?

A portion of the CSH district is in Nassau County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Agreed. I’ve seen some real shacks in Manhasset and GC. Would rather live on the water in Pequa with my boat and jet skis in the back yard. Also nice not to have to constantly run into Tad and Bif in their pink Vinyard Vines shorts when I run up to town.

So you’ve never seen a shack in Massapequa? Also nice to not have to run into Rocco and Vinny in there wife beaters and cut off Jean shorts in town!

Funniest transaction in a while. Thanks gentlemen.

Will Northport Repeat Long Island Champs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Agreed. I’ve seen some real shacks in Manhasset and GC. Would rather live on the water in Pequa with my boat and jet skis in the back yard. Also nice not to have to constantly run into Tad and Bif in their pink Vinyard Vines shorts when I run up to town.

So you’ve never seen a shack in Massapequa? Also nice to not have to run into Rocco and Vinny in there wife beaters and cut off Jean shorts in town!

Funniest transaction in a while. Thanks gentlemen.

What are the odds Massapequa parents can get the coach fired again this year? Repeat nutjub parents instead of state champs in Massapequa this year is my prediction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa? I don't think there are a whole lot of people comparing houses in CSH/GC/Manhasset and Massapequa. Very different zip codes. May as well include Farmingdale (Massapequa's rival) as well.

This post. Was going so well into you had to add your snotty remark. I wonder if he was to ask what’s the most obnoxious zip codes are on LI? Because I’m sure you live in one! He should avoid those.

Agreed. I’ve seen some real shacks in Manhasset and GC. Would rather live on the water in Pequa with my boat and jet skis in the back yard. Also nice not to have to constantly run into Tad and Bif in their pink Vinyard Vines shorts when I run up to town.

So you’ve never seen a shack in Massapequa? Also nice to not have to run into Rocco and Vinny in there wife beaters and cut off Jean shorts in town!

Funniest transaction in a while. Thanks gentlemen.

What are the odds Massapequa parents can get the coach fired again this year? Repeat nutjub parents instead of state champs in Massapequa this year is my prediction.

Who is the new coach???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

Not one of these three teams can beat Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

Not one of these three teams can beat Manhasset.

What's the point of this post?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

Not one of these three teams can beat Manhasset.

What's the point of this post?

Boredom lax junkie. Not judging. But nobody will come close to St Anthonys this year.

Thank you Joe Bagadonuts!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Let's stick to lacrosse and not start this BS.

Unfortunately that is lacrosse. Parents too involved and have the ear of the BOE and AD's. JC is a stand up guy but the overzealous parents will run him out of town. Syosset will be average at best this year.

How is that MacArthur winter league?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Let's stick to lacrosse and not start this BS.

Unfortunately that is lacrosse. Parents too involved and have the ear of the BOE and AD's. JC is a stand up guy but the overzealous parents will run him out of town. Syosset will be average at best this year.

The same issue in Pequa, thinking Baldwin is the team to beat this year. Long Beach is a close second, and don't rule out Plainview, they may sneak up on some people.

Who is playing in the Miller Place winter league? Starts this weekend I think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa lost top 3 scorers.

Syosset will be fired up and will play with emotion as a result of Head Coach turmoil. Much support for JC... Look out.

Can't replace what Syosset lost , way too many mediocre players who think way too much of themselves and as a result will implode eventually. HC will be under constant pressure and scrutiny all year if he stays.

Let's stick to lacrosse and not start this BS.

Unfortunately that is lacrosse. Parents too involved and have the ear of the BOE and AD's. JC is a stand up guy but the overzealous parents will run him out of town. Syosset will be average at best this year.

The same issue in Pequa, thinking Baldwin is the team to beat this year. Long Beach is a close second, and don't rule out Plainview, they may sneak up on some people.

Really!!!! Baldwin……long Beach???? Or am I missing the sarcasm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is that MacArthur winter league?

Carey league. Fun, nice fields well run. Most kids playing other sports and the younger ones getting experience so gives the coaches a chance to see who can play. Carey does a great job keeping the kids engaged and giving back to their programs. Like them or not they do a great job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is that MacArthur winter league?

Probably similar to the summer league that they run. Looks like most of the same teams are playing. Mix of varsity and JV players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone want to list top 10 Nassau publics this year?

The usual suspects…

In no particular order, because the top 4 can probably beat each other on any given day.

Manhasset
Farmingdale
Garden City
Cold Spring Harbor
then after that, there can be at least 8 teams fighting it out.

How will Syosset and Massapequa be this year?

Massapequa will have a bounce back year. A good junior class. It's unlikely Syosset will be very good. They lost a lot of talent from last year. Port Washington will be right there in Class A. Manhasset will be very good. Also keep in eye on Wantagh and Bethpage.

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This is a joke right?

Massapequa and Syosset will have to get past the juggernaut of Baldwin, I wouldn't count on that happening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Syosset will have to get past the juggernaut of Baldwin, I wouldn't count on that happening.

Sewanhaka making a comeback?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa and Syosset will have to get past the juggernaut of Baldwin, I wouldn't count on that happening.

Sewanhaka making a comeback?

oh yeah absolutely.

Let's hope we have a HS season. Major Covid outbreaks at the high schools now. I wouldn't be surprised if many high school basketball teams are shut down.

First time I’ve see IL switch the number one Freshman recruit to someone else. Kid looks like a beast!

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...d-at-inaugural-imlca-player-summit/58702

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's hope we have a HS season. Major Covid outbreaks at the high schools now. I wouldn't be surprised if many high school basketball teams are shut down.

Definitely trending that way. With everyone looking to finally travel over the break its going to get worse.

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

Who do we like in Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

The only thing you right here is Long Beach. Everyone else = Also-Rans. Remember second place is just the first lost. Go, Baldwin Bruins!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

Who do we like in Suffolk?

Any particular division you are looking for in Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

Who do we like in Suffolk?

Any particular division you are looking for in Suffolk?

All of them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since you asked. Nassau in no particular order: Garden City, Manhasset, Massapequa, Cold Spring Harbor, Port Washington, Farmingdale, Syosset, South Side, Wantagh, Lynbrook, Bethpage, Long Beach are all strong programs and expect the same this year.

Lynbrook is not a strong high school lacrosse program in recent years. Did they even win a playoff game last season? Wantagh and Bethpage do not belong with the other schools mentioned either. There are many schools that are better than those three in Nassau County.

Agree Lynbrook has not performed like years past but it has a long rich history of great teams and should never be counted out. Bethpage & Wantagh have some of the most talented players in all section 8 and definitely will be as competitive as any team in Nassau. Besides GC, Sett, & CSH, watch out for Port this year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Lynbrook has not performed like years past but it has a long rich history of great teams and should never be counted out. Bethpage & Wantagh have some of the most talented players in all section 8 and definitely will be as competitive as any team in Nassau. Besides GC, Sett, & CSH, watch out for Port this year!

Port is always one of the top teams. This goes back to the 70s and before. Weak 2021 class hurt them and they still managed to put together a solid year. The same can be said about CSH and GC. Manhasset was very solid for 2021 class but have the same amount of talent for the 2022s and 2023. They will probably perform the same or better than last year. Port, GC and CSH almost certainly will be getting better this year replacing a weak 21 class with better players. Should be fun to watch.

Port a bunch of dirt bags

Northport crushes all

Port has a bunch of punks on their team
Some super strong players and a handful of trash talking wise buttheades.

I saw from the LILJ winter league Hills has combined for Lax on the Hs level. I wonder if other multi district High Schools’s will consider this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw from the LILJ winter league Hills has combined for Lax on the Hs level. I wonder if other multi district High Schools’s will consider this.

That was just for the fall league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw from the LILJ winter league Hills has combined for Lax on the Hs level. I wonder if other multi district High Schools’s will consider this.

That was just for the fall league

Not according to the announcers in LILJ. They created new colors and a new logo HS. So they could be mistaken, if you are from the district and are closer to it.

Some important changes and clarifications for the upcoming 2022 season. Not sure yet how to properly enforce the changes. Please ask your players and coaches if they're aware.

1. Protective cup now a requirement not just a recommendation
2. All pads meet new standard, goalie also. If the pads are a few years old they are most likely not compliant. This could potentially save their life!
3. Mouth/teeth protection requirement clarification

See the full list below.

https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource-content/boys-lacrosse-rules-changes-2022/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw from the LILJ winter league Hills has combined for Lax on the Hs level. I wonder if other multi district High Schools’s will consider this.

That was just for the fall league

Not according to the announcers in LILJ. They created new colors and a new logo HS. So they could be mistaken, if you are from the district and are closer to it.

They have been combined female team for years. Combined boys starting this school year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw from the LILJ winter league Hills has combined for Lax on the Hs level. I wonder if other multi district High Schools’s will consider this.

That was just for the fall league

Not according to the announcers in LILJ. They created new colors and a new logo HS. So they could be mistaken, if you are from the district and are closer to it.

They have been combined female team for years. Combined boys starting this school year.

Why would they need to combine since both HS are fairly large? Teams like CSH have less than half the enrollment and field competitive teams

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

Another year of watching out for Port...

It's like the boy that cried wolf, but the wolf never comes...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

Where did you see this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree Lynbrook has not performed like years past but it has a long rich history of great teams and should never be counted out. Bethpage & Wantagh have some of the most talented players in all section 8 and definitely will be as competitive as any team in Nassau. Besides GC, Sett, & CSH, watch out for Port this year!

Is the implication here that Wantagh and Bethpage can hang with the GC's, Manhasset's Syosset, and Massapequa teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

Where did you see this?

https://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=nclca

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Either that or have the conferences based power points where some teams would move up or down on a given year. Would love to see a true A conference with Manhasset, GC, Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, CSH, Port. then add a couple of others based on performance.
The way it is now, it looks as if the A conference will play out like last year. The same 4 teams will be in the semi's. B Conference is all GC there is no one to challenge them. It's going to be a battle for 2nd place between Macarthur, Calhoun and Maybe Carey. If Manhasset and CSH moved to D then C will be up for grabs. D then comes down to 2 teams with most likely Manhasset on top.

Think about this for a moment. D1 Football allows 85 full scholorships, D1 basketball allows 16, lacrosse is only allowed 12. Why is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Either that or have the conferences based power points where some teams would move up or down on a given year. Would love to see a true A conference with Manhasset, GC, Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, CSH, Port. then add a couple of others based on performance.
The way it is now, it looks as if the A conference will play out like last year. The same 4 teams will be in the semi's. B Conference is all GC there is no one to challenge them. It's going to be a battle for 2nd place between Macarthur, Calhoun and Maybe Carey. If Manhasset and CSH moved to D then C will be up for grabs. D then comes down to 2 teams with most likely Manhasset on top.

Why not just hold programs accountable to get better? Why does everyone deserve a trophy? Really a sad reflection on whoever thinks the game should be dumbed down so their kid can be in the playoffs. Practice hit the gym and the track. get better. It's no one's fault but the kids who don't have the desire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Either that or have the conferences based power points where some teams would move up or down on a given year. Would love to see a true A conference with Manhasset, GC, Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, CSH, Port. then add a couple of others based on performance.
The way it is now, it looks as if the A conference will play out like last year. The same 4 teams will be in the semi's. B Conference is all GC there is no one to challenge them. It's going to be a battle for 2nd place between Macarthur, Calhoun and Maybe Carey. If Manhasset and CSH moved to D then C will be up for grabs. D then comes down to 2 teams with most likely Manhasset on top.

Why not just hold programs accountable to get better? Why does everyone deserve a trophy? Really a sad reflection on whoever thinks the game should be dumbed down so their kid can be in the playoffs. Practice hit the gym and the track. get better. It's no one's fault but the kids who don't have the desire.

No one said give everyone a trophy. I took it as it would be more competitive. Watching GC beat Elmont or VS Central is not fun!! No one gets anything out of it. The game is over by the end of the 1st quarter. I would love a true A where the best teams fight it out week in out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think about this for a moment. D1 Football allows 85 full scholorships, D1 basketball allows 16, lacrosse is only allowed 12. Why is that?

I guess you didn't take economics in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think about this for a moment. D1 Football allows 85 full scholorships, D1 basketball allows 16, lacrosse is only allowed 12. Why is that?

I guess you didn't take economics in college.

Not every D1 Football or basketball program is self sustaining as a revenue producing sport. Don't need to take an economics course to prove that.

Hey dude who didn’t take economics- which college has a lacrosse team that brings in more revenue than football or basketball teams?

Yeah I’m sure lax brings in the big bucks with all of ten people in the stands!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah I'm sure lax brings in the big bucks with all of ten people in the stands!

The bottom line is, if my kid did not play lax growing up, he would have still entered college, afterward been gainfully employed in a career field in which he invested. Did lax keep him busy and learn teamwork, etc.? Yes. But, in the end, my son grew tired of the sport; at one point, he resented it. He stopped playing after his Freshman year in college, luckily he maintained his grades and transferred to a college specializing in a career field he was initially interested in, that did not offer lacrosse. The school he went to, is in a state where he remained. The sounding area of the school had plenty of hobbies to do in his downtime, and isn't cold in the winter. Finally, the amount of money spent on travel lax and all the add ons, isn't worth it in the end. It's easy to get caught up in all the running around, extra workouts, clinics, traveling out of state. Just remember, it is a business, and there are adult men/women making an excellent living off of our hard-earned money on a dead-end sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dude who didn’t take economics- which college has a lacrosse team that brings in more revenue than football or basketball teams?

Hopkins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Either that or have the conferences based power points where some teams would move up or down on a given year. Would love to see a true A conference with Manhasset, GC, Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, CSH, Port. then add a couple of others based on performance.
The way it is now, it looks as if the A conference will play out like last year. The same 4 teams will be in the semi's. B Conference is all GC there is no one to challenge them. It's going to be a battle for 2nd place between Macarthur, Calhoun and Maybe Carey. If Manhasset and CSH moved to D then C will be up for grabs. D then comes down to 2 teams with most likely Manhasset on top.

Why not just hold programs accountable to get better? Why does everyone deserve a trophy? Really a sad reflection on whoever thinks the game should be dumbed down so their kid can be in the playoffs. Practice hit the gym and the track. get better. It's no one's fault but the kids who don't have the desire.

No one said give everyone a trophy. I took it as it would be more competitive. Watching GC beat Elmont or VS Central is not fun!! No one gets anything out of it. The game is over by the end of the 1st quarter. I would love a true A where the best teams fight it out week in out.

Elmont and VS need to get better or just fold the program. Best teams fighting it out doesn’t exist anywhere. Look at college football, haves and have nots. Nature of sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah I'm sure lax brings in the big bucks with all of ten people in the stands!

The bottom line is, if my kid did not play lax growing up, he would have still entered college, afterward been gainfully employed in a career field in which he invested. Did lax keep him busy and learn teamwork, etc.? Yes. But, in the end, my son grew tired of the sport; at one point, he resented it. He stopped playing after his Freshman year in college, luckily he maintained his grades and transferred to a college specializing in a career field he was initially interested in, that did not offer lacrosse. The school he went to, is in a state where he remained. The sounding area of the school had plenty of hobbies to do in his downtime, and isn't cold in the winter. Finally, the amount of money spent on travel lax and all the add ons, isn't worth it in the end. It's easy to get caught up in all the running around, extra workouts, clinics, traveling out of state. Just remember, it is a business, and there are adult men/women making an excellent living off of our hard-earned money on a dead-end sport.

Everyone’s experience is different, plenty of kids do not stop playing, I know many who are still playing in there 50’s 60’s traveling to tournaments all over the country, from Florida, Vail, Lake Placid, Ocean City, Newport, Hawaii etc…

Many kids currently at great schools who continue to play and love the sport and will have great careers in whatever they choose to do after they graduate and will have many friends for life and will continue to play for decades to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah I'm sure lax brings in the big bucks with all of ten people in the stands!

The bottom line is, if my kid did not play lax growing up, he would have still entered college, afterward been gainfully employed in a career field in which he invested. Did lax keep him busy and learn teamwork, etc.? Yes. But, in the end, my son grew tired of the sport; at one point, he resented it. He stopped playing after his Freshman year in college, luckily he maintained his grades and transferred to a college specializing in a career field he was initially interested in, that did not offer lacrosse. The school he went to, is in a state where he remained. The sounding area of the school had plenty of hobbies to do in his downtime, and isn't cold in the winter. Finally, the amount of money spent on travel lax and all the add ons, isn't worth it in the end. It's easy to get caught up in all the running around, extra workouts, clinics, traveling out of state. Just remember, it is a business, and there are adult men/women making an excellent living off of our hard-earned money on a dead-end sport.

Everyone’s experience is different, plenty of kids do not stop playing, I know many who are still playing in there 50’s 60’s traveling to tournaments all over the country, from Florida, Vail, Lake Placid, Ocean City, Newport, Hawaii etc…

Many kids currently at great schools who continue to play and love the sport and will have great careers in whatever they choose to do after they graduate and will have many friends for life and will continue to play for decades to come.

Just saying, I have not seen any 50-60-year-old lacrosse men's leagues compared to; Baseball, softball, basketball, tennis, golf, football, even hockey. At work, I participate in a 50 and over league playing basketball at the Chelsea Piers during the weeknights.
The lock on the door is only as good as the door frame. The same principle applies to the great schools.

That’s because Lacrosse has progressed in a different direction over the last ten years give or take. When my son started twelve years ago colleges were hungry for kids, their were good scholarships for field players and it was not uncommon for Goalies to get full rides! Even four or five years ago in travel kids were getting breaks on tuition in some travel clubs on their elite teams, that’s why they were running two or three teams per grade. The kids on the B or C teams were paying for them! But now the colleges are running fifty plus kids on the team and your kid has to kiss butt to play! They played their favorite sixteen kids and the rest just stand their! College is about getting goods grades and getting a good job! I’ve talked to a lot of kids the last few years that played lax in college and said it wasn’t what they thoughit would be and their favorite years playing was before high school and college!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think about this for a moment. D1 Football allows 85 full scholorships, D1 basketball allows 16, lacrosse is only allowed 12. Why is that?

if you look, it is 12.6 full scholarships. Most non revenue sports have similar numbers. It keeps it fair. If lacrosse could offer 40 full rides, the big football schools would dominate because of it while the small D1 schools would suffer. You kid doesn't play lacrosse to get a full ride at Duke, he plays because he loves the game and maybe he will be able to get into Duke because he is a stud and has good grades. If your son could play D1 football and get a full ride, then he should do it.

Flying with a lacrosse stick? Anyone have any issues doing this? I’ve heard different things. Anyone do this recently? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Flying with a lacrosse stick? Anyone have any issues doing this? I’ve heard different things. Anyone do this recently? Thanks

Take the head off and put it in a carry on so it doesn’t get lost. Put the shaft in equipment bag.
You can always buy a new shaft if luggage is lost but you don’t want to have to play with new head or have to get one strung up on the fly.

If your gonna fly with a lax stick you better flap really hard or your gonna dive bomb!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Flying with a lacrosse stick? Anyone have any issues doing this? I’ve heard different things. Anyone do this recently? Thanks

Take the head off and put it in a carry on so it doesn’t get lost. Put the shaft in equipment bag.
You can always buy a new shaft if luggage is lost but you don’t want to have to play with new head or have to get one strung up on the fly.

Just went through this last month; Dallas (IWLCA) from NY.
We did check directly with the airline carry, which specifically states no lacrosse sticks (or hockey) allowed as carry on.
We also tired packing the shaft alone in a carry-on bag, it's too long.
So, we need to check a bag, we disassembled and packed a screw driver in the bag.

I've heard one person suggest that you pop off the head and add some type of handle to a shaft and call it a walking cane.

Good luck.

use a ski bag

If D1 opportunities are shrinking D2 has some great lacrosse, as does D3.

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2. Lenoir-Rhyne
3. Wingate
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9. Belmont Abbey
10. Mount Olive
11. Saint Anselm
12. Adelphi
13. Lindenwood
14. Frostburg
15. Pace
16. Limestone
17. Queens (N.C.)
18. Rockhurst
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20. Lynn

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to preseason seeds, it appears South Side is moving to C and Cold Spring Harbor to D.

All based on enrollment numbers. They should just go to a super conference. Back in the day (80's) you played everyone to earn the LIC

Either that or have the conferences based power points where some teams would move up or down on a given year. Would love to see a true A conference with Manhasset, GC, Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, CSH, Port. then add a couple of others based on performance.
The way it is now, it looks as if the A conference will play out like last year. The same 4 teams will be in the semi's. B Conference is all GC there is no one to challenge them. It's going to be a battle for 2nd place between Macarthur, Calhoun and Maybe Carey. If Manhasset and CSH moved to D then C will be up for grabs. D then comes down to 2 teams with most likely Manhasset on top.

Why not just hold programs accountable to get better? Why does everyone deserve a trophy? Really a sad reflection on whoever thinks the game should be dumbed down so their kid can be in the playoffs. Practice hit the gym and the track. get better. It's no one's fault but the kids who don't have the desire.

What does this moronic statement even mean? Some towns just don't have community lacrosse programs and it's reflected in their hs teams. They can't compete when they are lumped into a division with traditional power schools because of their enrollment numbers.

Typical, you’re school can’t compete so “dense” it down for them. Don’t try to get better, make it easier for them! This is such a NY attitude these days. I’m sure if you told your son that your ideal plan for lacrosse would be to make sure he wins by getting rid of the competition he would be all in. You want moronic statements, re-read what you posted.

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

No it’s not. Takes away any incentive to get better. Keep socialist attitudes out of sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Let me guess, your son is on the Chaminade JV. Thanks for the insightful nonsense, it was very valuable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Let me guess, your son is on the Chaminade JV. Thanks for the insightful nonsense, it was very valuable

The SA JV team would beat 60%. We played them and are a bubble Suffolk A playoff team and beat them, not by much, but the age and size difference showed. Every player was at least decent with some studs. Teams with no depth past their first lines will probably have a hard time with them.

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Let me guess, your son is on the Chaminade JV. Thanks for the insightful nonsense, it was very valuable

The SA JV team would beat 60%. We played them and are a bubble Suffolk A playoff team and beat them, not by much, but the age and size difference showed. Every player was at least decent with some studs. Teams with no depth past their first lines will probably have a hard time with them.

Wrong they didn't have any of the Soph's only Jr's and Sr's that where not away playing for there club team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Agreed ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Best player on Chaminade is the goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

You are entitled to your opinion. However. the majority of starters from St A and Chaminade are from Express and 91. Yes, there are a few on other clubs but the coaching connections with those clubs and schools is undeniable.

Come on let’s be real, if your going to St. Anthony’s and you want playing time unless your a super stud you play for Express!

Funny that the top players from St. A are all 91 players. Get your facts straight sir

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny that the top players from St. A are all 91 players. Get your facts straight sir

Well we know it's not the turtles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Agreed ..

He's only on Igloo because he has to be. That 2023 Igloo team has been a S Show for years. There are only a few kids who stayed because they play for free. Best kids left for real coaching at LIE and 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Agreed ..

He's only on Igloo because he has to be. That 2023 Igloo team has been a S Show for years. There are only a few kids who stayed because they play for free. Best kids left for real coaching at LIE and 91

Its generally helpful in life if you have your facts straight!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

Agreed ..

He's only on Igloo because he has to be. That 2023 Igloo team has been a S Show for years. There are only a few kids who stayed because they play for free. Best kids left for real coaching at LIE and 91

I saw that Igloo had 16 kids commit already. It couldn't be that much of a s-show. I know that some kids left over the years, The few that I do know left for petty reasons. (my Opinion) The Grass is always greener thing. My son did not play for them so I'm looking from the outside in. They obvislouly did something right to get that many kids to commit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

The holdbacks go to St. Anthony's and the smart kids go to Chaminade regardless of club.

People wonder why Long Island gets such a bad rap. You are literally the worst parents in all of lacrosse. It is not even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

You are entitled to your opinion. However. the majority of starters from St A and Chaminade are from Express and 91. Yes, there are a few on other clubs but the coaching connections with those clubs and schools is undeniable.

That wasn’t the question, it was what clubs are they on. Not what clubs the starters are on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

You are entitled to your opinion. However. the majority of starters from St A and Chaminade are from Express and 91. Yes, there are a few on other clubs but the coaching connections with those clubs and schools is undeniable.

That wasn’t the question, it was what clubs are they on. Not what clubs the starters are on.

They are on multiple clubs the majority are Express and 91. Go to inside lacrosse commitment page and look up St. A and Chaminade. Most of the players are listed and the club that they play for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

You are entitled to your opinion. However. the majority of starters from St A and Chaminade are from Express and 91. Yes, there are a few on other clubs but the coaching connections with those clubs and schools is undeniable.

That wasn’t the question, it was what clubs are they on. Not what clubs the starters are on.

Because they were asking about kids who will never see the field?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

Every club. People think it’s mostly Express, it’s not. In my opinion, the best player on the varsity at St As this year is from Igloo and the best player on Chaminade is from Express.

You are entitled to your opinion. However. the majority of starters from St A and Chaminade are from Express and 91. Yes, there are a few on other clubs but the coaching connections with those clubs and schools is undeniable.

That wasn’t the question, it was what clubs are they on. Not what clubs the starters are on.

Because they were asking about kids who will never see the field?

Pathetic parents; Their apples don't fall too far from their tree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs are the SA & Chaminade boys on?

The holdbacks go to St. Anthony's and the smart kids go to Chaminade regardless of club.

Go to inside lacrosse commitment page and look up St. A and Chaminade, looks like St A's has the smart kids.

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

There is not great lax and academics at most public schools. I believe there are over 100 public HS on Long Island maybe 10 have great academics and lax. The cost to live in many of those districts far exceeds the cost of St A’s or Chaminade. That said even districts like Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor, Garden City, Ward Melville, Smithtown (s) have kids that choose to go to the catholic schools. To each his own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

There is not great lax and academics at most public schools. I believe there are over 100 public HS on Long Island maybe 10 have great academics and lax. The cost to live in many of those districts far exceeds the cost of St A’s or Chaminade. That said even districts like Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor, Garden City, Ward Melville, Smithtown (s) have kids that choose to go to the catholic schools. To each his own.

Hey, to each their own. Mine stayed local at a competitive Suffolk school. All three recruited to to top 20 lax schools. Two to top 10 academic, other one to top 30 academic, better lax. Everyone has their own path, but that path can be easily recognized at public schools, which I personally admire more. Hek, the projected top D1 player this season is from SWR not Chaminade or St. A!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Let me guess, your son is on the Chaminade JV. Thanks for the insightful nonsense, it was very valuable

The SA JV team would beat 60%. We played them and are a bubble Suffolk A playoff team and beat them, not by much, but the age and size difference showed. Every player was at least decent with some studs. Teams with no depth past their first lines will probably have a hard time with them.

Wrong they didn't have any of the Soph's only Jr's and Sr's that where not away playing for there club team.

The absolute silliness of this thread is incredible. I seriously question the age of posters on here. Like are you guys like in like 8th grade? Pretty pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

Never suggested anything about public schools you did, I listed reason to attend private school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

Never suggested anything about public schools you did, I listed reason to attend private school.

I will give you the faith and discipline part, however the values are just not there. I am a product of Catholic school. The lack of values that I witnessed is beyond comprehensible. They just did a great job of covering it up. As the poster above stated, they had some scandals that have gotten out to the public. How many have they been able to keep quiet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

Never suggested anything about public schools you did, I listed reason to attend private school.

Parents send their kids to private schools - it is their choice and their money. Whether you want to admit it or not - the majority of kids in private school have families that are invested in their future. More than you can say about the overall student population in public. Sure - you get great successful kids that graduate public You also have more bottom feeders. You can't deny it. It is a parent's choice to insulate their kid from that if they want to. Who's to say if it is the right choice? Them. Their money. Their kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

They didn’t suggest anything, they gave reasons for their choice.

What attitude are you talking about?

Why do some people care where others choose to send their kids to school? Free country, people can choose to live where they want, go to school where they want, work where they want etc…. It’s their business and very strange that others care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

They didn’t suggest anything, they gave reasons for their choice.

What attitude are you talking about?

Why do some people care where others choose to send their kids to school? Free country, people can choose to live where they want, go to school where they want, work where they want etc…. It’s their business and very strange that others care.

Why does anyone care? All this has become is a "mine is better than yours". It all started with the silly obsession with which club team is better. Remember, lacrosse is a niche sport, it has no future, ESPN has reruns of the World Strongest Man from 10 years ago before they show a current top 10 lacrosse game. We may love it but stop obsessing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Anthony's - Syracuse, Adelphi, Army, Holy Cross, Fairfield, Boston U, X2 Sacred Heart, Salve Regina, X2 North Carolina, Penn State, Providence, X3 Harvard, X2 Navy, UMass, Vermont, Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Maryland

Chaminade - Duke, Penn, Williams, Air Force, Oberlin, Monmouth, Brown, X3 Navy, Notre Dame, Richmond, Boston U, Johns Hopkins, Lafayette, Army.

Very Impressive..

Or you could stay at your public school and have 3 kids go top 20 D1, and have pride in their home town. Don’t understand the need to spend all that money and time to go to the private schools when there is great lax and academics at most also publics. I’m also not too impressed with many of those commits, has definitely dropped off from past years.

You don't understand the choice to instill: Faith, Discipline and Valves? who cares about lacrosse.

Lol, so you’re suggesting that public school kids don’t have faith discipline or values? Should I remind you of some recent incidents that occurred at both St. As and Chaminade involving both staff and students that displayed a total lack of those traits? You’re attitude is exactly what’s wrong with society.

They didn’t suggest anything, they gave reasons for their choice.

What attitude are you talking about?

Why do some people care where others choose to send their kids to school? Free country, people can choose to live where they want, go to school where they want, work where they want etc…. It’s their business and very strange that others care.

Why does anyone care? All this has become is a "mine is better than yours". It all started with the silly obsession with which club team is better. Remember, lacrosse is a niche sport, it has no future, ESPN has reruns of the World Strongest Man from 10 years ago before they show a current top 10 lacrosse game. We may love it but stop obsessing.

Many I know use lacrosse to get into the best school possible, network, get a good job, have fun, develop friendships, learn some life lessons, get all of the benefits that go along with playing a team sport, develop good habits that will benefit you in life etc... I would say lacrosse can help one to have a very bright future.

I will never understand why some people care about how others choose to spend their money or where others choose to sent their children to school .

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Please tell me a school that isn’t.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Please tell me a school that isn’t.

Wow, you stay sleeping dude! Let the world pass yOu by!

Yeah a lot of top schools are woke but Harvard brings that whole thing to a new level. The athletes are afraid to wear their sport specific apparel, they are shunned by the faculty and other students alike. Multiple athletic scandals in recent past (widespread cheating etc) are only part of this reason. The lacrosse coach is a virtue signaler - good miss all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah a lot of top schools are woke but Harvard brings that whole thing to a new level. The athletes are afraid to wear their sport specific apparel, they are shunned by the faculty and other students alike. Multiple athletic scandals in recent past (widespread cheating etc) are only part of this reason. The lacrosse coach is a virtue signaler - good miss all around.

It's not just the top schools but those are the only schools that get national attention, nobody cares about no name schools but they are woke as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah a lot of top schools are woke but Harvard brings that whole thing to a new level. The athletes are afraid to wear their sport specific apparel, they are shunned by the faculty and other students alike. Multiple athletic scandals in recent past (widespread cheating etc) are only part of this reason. The lacrosse coach is a virtue signaler - good miss all around.

I will take some Wokeism for a degree from Harvard.

Does the Club really matter? From CSH '20:
Express A (4) -Wesleyan, Fairfield, Dartmouth, Not playing in college
91 Crush (1) - Michigan
Igloo (7) - Harvard, Bucknell, Geneseo, Fairfield (via FDU), 3 not playing
FLG (2) - Army, Amherst (both playing football and lax)

All four programs had double digit D1 placements. Club team rank really doesn't matter other than for childhood memories. The top five LI clubs will always have multiple D1 recruits as well as D3 players as well as kids that do not get recruited to play in college or make it even if they did... Enjoy the ride and make sure your kid is enjoying it. And, there were plenty of other D1 recruits that year from Express B, Turtles, True Blue and I'm sure others I'm missing...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

Just about every school (k-12 included) has a liberal/woke agenda it’s just that only the schools that are known nationally get the press.

If you kid has the grades and is a good enough athlete to be offered a spot at an Ivy it would be foolish to not give serious consideration to the opportunity.

From what I have seen, Princeton is the best Ivy for athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

LOL, that’s rich! Wait, more like the people who go to Ivy will be rich! notIntelligent DAF statement. It doesn’t sound like you or your kids would ever have the academics to get into an Ivy!!! Your gene pool sounds shallow, maybe even empty! People like you are the sad state of America! Fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

The minds of these kids are corrupted before stepping foot into an IVY league school. Not all, but the majority of the kids attending the IVY league school come from lineage rooted within IVY school system. That said, where a kid attends school only matters to the ones who care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah a lot of top schools are woke but Harvard brings that whole thing to a new level. The athletes are afraid to wear their sport specific apparel, they are shunned by the faculty and other students alike. Multiple athletic scandals in recent past (widespread cheating etc) are only part of this reason. The lacrosse coach is a virtue signaler - good miss all around.

I will take some Wokeism for a degree from Harvard.

I definitely wouldn't pay 70k+ per year to send my kid to an institution which fosters mediocrity and entitlement with non merit based achievement outside of test scores.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

The minds of these kids are corrupted before stepping foot into an IVY league school. Not all, but the majority of the kids attending the IVY league school come from lineage rooted within IVY school system. That said, where a kid attends school only matters to the ones who care.

“Lineage rooted in Ivy school system”!? Sounds like Your lineage is rooted in the RN system! Have your kid Go to Alabama and have fun and Maybe even Florida ! They can work for the Ivy League kids companies later.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Agreed. Almost every IVY will corrupt your kids mind. Sad state in America.

The minds of these kids are corrupted before stepping foot into an IVY league school. Not all, but the majority of the kids attending the IVY league school come from lineage rooted within IVY school system. That said, where a kid attends school only matters to the ones who care.

“Lineage rooted in Ivy school system”!? Sounds like Your lineage is rooted in the RN system! Have your kid Go to Alabama and have fun and Maybe even Florida ! They can work for the Ivy League kids companies later.

The so call Ivy league kids wouldn't know what work is even if it smacked them in the face. Typical response from a typical type of person.

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

—— “The so call Ivy league kids wouldn't know what work is even if it smacked them in the face. Typical response from a typical type of person.” —

———————————————————————
The above post brings new meaning to the word ignorant.

So, the kids that bust their @$$ in the classroom and get the grades necessary to be considered by Ivy coaches and these same kids who work their tail off on the field and in the weight room and are given consideration from the coaches at some of the best lacrosse programs in the nation do not know about work.

Do you realize just how foolish you sound?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

—— “The so call Ivy league kids wouldn't know what work is even if it smacked them in the face. Typical response from a typical type of person.” —

———————————————————————
The above post brings new meaning to the word ignorant.

So, the kids that bust their @$$ in the classroom and get the grades necessary to be considered by Ivy coaches and these same kids who work their tail off on the field and in the weight room and are given consideration from the coaches at some of the best lacrosse programs in the nation do not know about work.

Do you realize just how foolish you sound?

Barfff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

Did you ever hear about merit and not diversity as the first word you suggest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

Please explain what you believe diversity is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how scheduling for Nassau publics will go this year? Last year was good. Had conferences and scheduling based on quality rather than school size. Pequa, Syosset, Port, F'dale, GC, South Side, etc played each other and then for playoffs went to traditional A, B, C. That is much better than having F'dale play Valley Stream, Manhasset play Roslyn, etc. No disrespect to those teams but it's better for everyone to play games against team of similar quality rather than just similar school size. Hopefully that how they do it again this year.

Last year was terrible imo. Conference play only was a huge water of time. Not seeing the strong public schools play vs St A and Chaminade stunk as well.

St A's and Chaminade JV teams will beat 99% of Public Schools Varsity teams. This year its not even close.

Let me guess, your son is on the Chaminade JV. Thanks for the insightful nonsense, it was very valuable

The SA JV team would beat 60%. We played them and are a bubble Suffolk A playoff team and beat them, not by much, but the age and size difference showed. Every player was at least decent with some studs. Teams with no depth past their first lines will probably have a hard time with them.

Wrong they didn't have any of the Soph's only Jr's and Sr's that where not away playing for there club team.

We played them and it was mostly freshmen, hence JV.. I stick by what I said..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

Did you ever hear about merit and not diversity as the first word you suggest?

No politics here, talking about athletes in general. I stand in the middle and want what’s best for my country. No right or left. Problem now is too many are on the extreme side and only care about the party agenda. So let’s not make this political. Most college coaches with take a stud out of a top public school over a private/prep one. St Anthony is not a prep school. If you have a checkbook, kid can get in if a good athlete( no test required)

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

What is your point?

How do you fell about character, competence, ability etc…?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read this somewhere and saved it. Think its spot on
A team-first attitude starts at home. Unfortunately, so does a me-first attitude. If you want to change the world, go home and eliminate entitlement. Teach how to love, serve, and care. Show how to be humble and respond to adversity.

Ummmmm OK? So, how do you feel about diversity? You left that out! Hmmmm Go home and eliminate ignorance!

What is your point?

How do you fell about character, competence, ability etc…?

In general, youth lax is filled with entitlement, a me-first attitude. Love, serve, and care in youth lax? Will never happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Probably not going to be a problem. Of course, I'd never send my kid their either - he is not smart enough or hard working enough to get in....

when are the schedules coming out for section 8 ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Probably not going to be a problem. Of course, I'd never send my kid their either - he is not smart enough or hard working enough to get in....

Don't think that's the entry requirement these days. WOKE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Probably not going to be a problem. Of course, I'd never send my kid their either - he is not smart enough or hard working enough to get in....

Don't think that's the entry requirement these days. WOKE

Always been the entry requirements! It’s just that your kids sleeping duff would never get in no matter if it were now or 10 years ago. Sounds like no one in your sleeping gene pool would. Thankfully! You sound DAF. Would you go to your doctor/specialist if he/she graduated Harvard? Use the money manager? Lawyer? Do you interview them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Probably not going to be a problem. Of course, I'd never send my kid their either - he is not smart enough or hard working enough to get in....

Don't think that's the entry requirement these days. WOKE

Always been the entry requirements! It’s just that your kids sleeping duff would never get in no matter if it were now or 10 years ago. Sounds like no one in your sleeping gene pool would. Thankfully! You sound DAF. Would you go to your doctor/specialist if he/she graduated Harvard? Use the money manager? Lawyer? Do you interview them?

Answer = NO! I'd rather hire someone who has strong work ethic, great character/morals, and isn't an entitled laxer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When St. Anthony's starts sending more kids to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola.

Harvard coach is Chaminade alum!

Harvard is woke. I'd never send my kid there.

Probably not going to be a problem. Of course, I'd never send my kid their either - he is not smart enough or hard working enough to get in....

Don't think that's the entry requirement these days. WOKE

Always been the entry requirements! It’s just that your kids sleeping duff would never get in no matter if it were now or 10 years ago. Sounds like no one in your sleeping gene pool would. Thankfully! You sound DAF. Would you go to your doctor/specialist if he/she graduated Harvard? Use the money manager? Lawyer? Do you interview them?

Answer = NO! I'd rather hire someone who has strong work ethic, great character/morals, and isn't an entitled laxer.

Wow, true colors shining through. You are probably very political as well? You Lean way to one side, which has a lot to do with your post! So, people who go to / went to Harvard do not have strong character / morals and strong work ethic? Really? Democrats either, I suppose? #ignorant. I guess we can place any Ivy school in there as well? Hmmmm

I have a child playing lacrosse at Harvard and the above comments are nonsense. Overall, the school is left of center but no more so than at the ACC school one of my other children attends. If you are looking for left of center/extreme left of center politics/activism you can find it at both schools but it does not permeate everyday life.

From the Harvard Crimson April 9, 2021:

"It is no surprise that Harvard’s faculty skews heavily toward the left side of the political aisle. Out of 236 members of the FAS who responded to a question on political leanings in The Crimson’s 2021 Faculty Survey, just seven — 3 percent — identified as “somewhat” or “very conservative,” compared to 183 who identified as “somewhat” or “very liberal.”

Political donations by FAS members show a similar leftward bent. Contributions by FAS faculty to Democrats recorded in the publicly available Federal Election Commission filings for 2017-2020 totaled $744,143, while donations to Republican campaigns and candidates amounted to just $3,010, less than the $5,600 that FAS faculty contributed to independent candidates."

To sat that this school is 'left of center' is a massive understatement and it's hard to believe it doesn't permeate everyday life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a child playing lacrosse at Harvard and the above comments are nonsense. Overall, the school is left of center but no more so than at the ACC school one of my other children attends. If you are looking for left of center/extreme left of center politics/activism you can find it at both schools but it does not permeate everyday life.

Agree, it’s at every school K-12 as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Harvard Crimson April 9, 2021:

"It is no surprise that Harvard’s faculty skews heavily toward the left side of the political aisle. Out of 236 members of the FAS who responded to a question on political leanings in The Crimson’s 2021 Faculty Survey, just seven — 3 percent — identified as “somewhat” or “very conservative,” compared to 183 who identified as “somewhat” or “very liberal.”

Political donations by FAS members show a similar leftward bent. Contributions by FAS faculty to Democrats recorded in the publicly available Federal Election Commission filings for 2017-2020 totaled $744,143, while donations to Republican campaigns and candidates amounted to just $3,010, less than the $5,600 that FAS faculty contributed to independent candidates."

To sat that this school is 'left of center' is a massive understatement and it's hard to believe it doesn't permeate everyday life.

And…. Who cares? Can’t your kid think for themselves? They are adults at that point in college. Who cares what the faculty does/thinks ! If you have raised an aware kid, they will be able to have their own thoughts on things, regardless of the faculties political views. Sounds like you don’t want your kid to hear or be around people from the other side of the aisle? That’s not healthy and it’s pigheaded. Very MTG of you! At this point, if your kid can get into any school, they should go just to get away from you and think for themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Harvard Crimson April 9, 2021:

"It is no surprise that Harvard’s faculty skews heavily toward the left side of the political aisle. Out of 236 members of the FAS who responded to a question on political leanings in The Crimson’s 2021 Faculty Survey, just seven — 3 percent — identified as “somewhat” or “very conservative,” compared to 183 who identified as “somewhat” or “very liberal.”

Political donations by FAS members show a similar leftward bent. Contributions by FAS faculty to Democrats recorded in the publicly available Federal Election Commission filings for 2017-2020 totaled $744,143, while donations to Republican campaigns and candidates amounted to just $3,010, less than the $5,600 that FAS faculty contributed to independent candidates."

To sat that this school is 'left of center' is a massive understatement and it's hard to believe it doesn't permeate everyday life.

And…. Who cares? Can’t your kid think for themselves? They are adults at that point in college. Who cares what the faculty does/thinks ! If you have raised an aware kid, they will be able to have their own thoughts on things, regardless of the faculties political views. Sounds like you don’t want your kid to hear or be around people from the other side of the aisle? That’s not healthy and it’s pigheaded. Very MTG of you! At this point, if your kid can get into any school, they should go just to get away from you and think for themselves.

You sound like a fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Harvard Crimson April 9, 2021:

"It is no surprise that Harvard’s faculty skews heavily toward the left side of the political aisle. Out of 236 members of the FAS who responded to a question on political leanings in The Crimson’s 2021 Faculty Survey, just seven — 3 percent — identified as “somewhat” or “very conservative,” compared to 183 who identified as “somewhat” or “very liberal.”

Political donations by FAS members show a similar leftward bent. Contributions by FAS faculty to Democrats recorded in the publicly available Federal Election Commission filings for 2017-2020 totaled $744,143, while donations to Republican campaigns and candidates amounted to just $3,010, less than the $5,600 that FAS faculty contributed to independent candidates."

To sat that this school is 'left of center' is a massive understatement and it's hard to believe it doesn't permeate everyday life.

And…. Who cares? Can’t your kid think for themselves? They are adults at that point in college. Who cares what the faculty does/thinks ! If you have raised an aware kid, they will be able to have their own thoughts on things, regardless of the faculties political views. Sounds like you don’t want your kid to hear or be around people from the other side of the aisle? That’s not healthy and it’s pigheaded. Very MTG of you! At this point, if your kid can get into any school, they should go just to get away from you and think for themselves.

You sound like a fool.

Says the fool!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From the Harvard Crimson April 9, 2021:

"It is no surprise that Harvard’s faculty skews heavily toward the left side of the political aisle. Out of 236 members of the FAS who responded to a question on political leanings in The Crimson’s 2021 Faculty Survey, just seven — 3 percent — identified as “somewhat” or “very conservative,” compared to 183 who identified as “somewhat” or “very liberal.”

Political donations by FAS members show a similar leftward bent. Contributions by FAS faculty to Democrats recorded in the publicly available Federal Election Commission filings for 2017-2020 totaled $744,143, while donations to Republican campaigns and candidates amounted to just $3,010, less than the $5,600 that FAS faculty contributed to independent candidates."

To sat that this school is 'left of center' is a massive understatement and it's hard to believe it doesn't permeate everyday life.

And…. Who cares? Can’t your kid think for themselves? They are adults at that point in college. Who cares what the faculty does/thinks ! If you have raised an aware kid, they will be able to have their own thoughts on things, regardless of the faculties political views. Sounds like you don’t want your kid to hear or be around people from the other side of the aisle? That’s not healthy and it’s pigheaded. Very MTG of you! At this point, if your kid can get into any school, they should go just to get away from you and think for themselves.

You sound like a fool.

Says the fool!

One of the many reasons I don't involve myself with ANY lacrosse parents. PERIOD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a child playing lacrosse at Harvard and the above comments are nonsense. Overall, the school is left of center but no more so than at the ACC school one of my other children attends. If you are looking for left of center/extreme left of center politics/activism you can find it at both schools but it does not permeate everyday life.

I will add that the athletes (my 2 children that play college sports would agree) tend to spend most of their time with other athletes and the athletes seem to be politically centrist if political at all. Between sleeping, eating, going to class, studying and the sports commitment, there is not time for anything else. My child at Harvard knows that the faculty and many of the NARPs are left leaning but again, it is not something that comes up. I am sure the rhetoric will intensify around the mid term elections, it did when I was in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

He can be a very good player and work his butt off, but kids are just better. Ask him what is going to make him happy between sports and the school overall. There is a long list of kids that have gone to Chaminade and either quit lacrosse or transferred out because of not playing. People say you shouldn’t do that because it’s more than sport…yes…but I would want my son happy above all else. Yes, I am a parent of a Chaminade grad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Noooo don't do it!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Noooo don't do it!!!

And what is your reason? No school is perfect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

He can be a very good player and work his butt off, but kids are just better. Ask him what is going to make him happy between sports and the school overall. There is a long list of kids that have gone to Chaminade and either quit lacrosse or transferred out because of not playing. People say you shouldn’t do that because it’s more than sport…yes…but I would want my son happy above all else. Yes, I am a parent of a Chaminade grad.

Great point. What does your kid want to do is most important. With your input and guidance, it is after all a decision, they need to make for themselves. The Chaminade alumni network and name recognition is meaningful but if you child is unhappy is doesn't mean a thing. Pick the schools regardless of lacrosse, same as a college. If you weren't playing would you still go there?

Anyone have info about the MLK clinic and play day at Stonybrook, what teams or coaches will be there???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have info about the MLK clinic and play day at Stonybrook, what teams or coaches will be there???

Received an email from my son's club about the event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have info about the MLK clinic and play day at Stonybrook, what teams or coaches will be there???

Received an email from my son's club about the event.

Is it a clinic or play day?

SUFFOLK DIV 2 who are top teams .... IS West Islip in the mix

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

He can be a very good player and work his butt off, but kids are just better. Ask him what is going to make him happy between sports and the school overall. There is a long list of kids that have gone to Chaminade and either quit lacrosse or transferred out because of not playing. People say you shouldn’t do that because it’s more than sport…yes…but I would want my son happy above all else. Yes, I am a parent of a Chaminade grad.

Great point. What does your kid want to do is most important. With your input and guidance, it is after all a decision, they need to make for themselves. The Chaminade alumni network and name recognition is meaningful but if you child is unhappy is doesn't mean a thing. Pick the schools regardless of lacrosse, same as a college. If you weren't playing would you still go there?

Just remember that a kid can transfer out but can not transfer in at Chaminade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Just remember that a kid can transfer out but can not transfer in at Chaminade

Question from a non-LI parent. Is there a geographic reason why a family chooses Chaminade vs St Anthony's (or vice versa)? Didn't 2021's #1 recruit go to Chaminade originally? Just curious since they are both parochial schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Just remember that a kid can transfer out but can not transfer in at Chaminade

Question from a non-LI parent. Is there a geographic reason why a family chooses Chaminade vs St Anthony's (or vice versa)? Didn't 2021's #1 recruit go to Chaminade originally? Just curious since they are both parochial schools.

Chaminade you get to play with the Brothers, and St A's you get to play with girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Just remember that a kid can transfer out but can not transfer in at Chaminade

Question from a non-LI parent. Is there a geographic reason why a family chooses Chaminade vs St Anthony's (or vice versa)? Didn't 2021's #1 recruit go to Chaminade originally? Just curious since they are both parochial schools.

Chaminade is an All boys school and superior to St A's academically. St. A's superior athletically boys & girls. Both are beautiful schools. One is in Nassau County, the other Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The original point was: How is it that Chaminade has fallen behind St. Anthony’s in terms of some of these top academic schools (e.g. Harvard and Duke)? That used to be the selling point for Chaminade.

I have an 8th grader thinking about Chaminade. Will make the lacrosse teams but wont play much. No one has ever sold me on that point. The only point to me was hard work, competition, and discipline creates success.

Just remember that a kid can transfer out but can not transfer in at Chaminade

Question from a non-LI parent. Is there a geographic reason why a family chooses Chaminade vs St Anthony's (or vice versa)? Didn't 2021's #1 recruit go to Chaminade originally? Just curious since they are both parochial schools.

Chaminade is an All boys school and superior to St A's academically. St. A's superior athletically boys & girls. Both are beautiful schools. One is in Nassau County, the other Suffolk.

Had kids graduate from both. It’s not superior by any means. The honors program at St Anthonys is a great education, but the difference is St Anthonys is tiered and Chaminade is not, it’s all honors. Its more important where your child feels comfortable. It’s not so a parent can say “my son goes to Chaminade”

Chaminade is an All boys school and superior to St A's academically. St. A's superior athletically boys & girls. Both are beautiful schools. One is in Nassau County, the other Suffolk.[/quote]

Had kids graduate from both. It’s not superior by any means. The honors program at St Anthonys is a great education, but the difference is St Anthonys is tiered and Chaminade is not, it’s all honors. Its more important where your child feels comfortable. It’s not so a parent can say “my son goes to Chaminade”[/quote]

Tons of kids leave Chaminade after the first two years there.

Is it true SWR will have female goalie this year and that she will be starting on the varsity team?

Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

Moderators – if you feel this should be a different new thread, feel free to move it.

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a TL;DR summary at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on

Yes, I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … Be realistic about your kid’s ability.
3) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
4) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
5) Have fun – to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decision with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying your kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics for the sake of being D1 for a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if you are a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If you don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about your high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed against the National Stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. Honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High School / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Your kid’s High School – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools from the run-of-the-mill high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
4) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows you and will go to bat for you. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. Finally, these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Some are outright frauds. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting. Others really only promote their best players. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program. Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
5) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
6) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, apex, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses so don’t be that parent.
7) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting your player (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
8) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies. If you are on defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
9) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). Some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college.
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can comment is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on, there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber school
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper. Just make sure that is because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI.
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found academically, they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.

D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs

D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year

D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

when are the schedules coming out for section 8 ?

Most are up already on Rank 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true SWR will have female goalie this year and that she will be starting on the varsity team?

Well Ian you would probably know best, you bring enough attention to her you really need it talked about here. Also Don't BS its you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

when are the schedules coming out for section 8 ?

Most are up already on Rank 1

Can't find it. It would be great if someone can post a link. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

Moderators – if you feel this should be a different new thread, feel free to move it.

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a TL;DR summary at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on

Yes, I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … Be realistic about your kid’s ability.
3) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
4) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
5) Have fun – to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decision with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying your kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics for the sake of being D1 for a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if you are a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If you don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about your high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed against the National Stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. Honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High School / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Your kid’s High School – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools from the run-of-the-mill high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
4) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows you and will go to bat for you. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. Finally, these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Some are outright frauds. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting. Others really only promote their best players. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program. Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
5) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
6) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, apex, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses so don’t be that parent.
7) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting your player (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
8) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies. If you are on defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
9) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). Some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college.
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can comment is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on, there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber school
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper. Just make sure that is because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI.
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found academically, they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.

D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs

D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year

D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

THANK YOU!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true SWR will have female goalie this year and that she will be starting on the varsity team?

Well Ian you would probably know best, you bring enough attention to her you really need it talked about here. Also Don't BS its you

Ian what's up, how you been, looking forward to the season.

Ian, congrats to her. That is great. You must be very proud.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

Thank you for this. For many its increasing hard to navigate. I know players are hammering our Club coach for playing time and help. I have chosen not too, and we will see where that goes. I have a 2024 and the stories I have heard from 2023s makes me nervous for my son this year...when it should be a time of excitement. Whomever took the time to write this out, it is appreciated. GREATLY!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade is an All boys school and superior to St A's academically. St. A's superior athletically boys & girls. Both are beautiful schools. One is in Nassau County, the other Suffolk.

Had kids graduate from both. It’s not superior by any means. The honors program at St Anthonys is a great education, but the difference is St Anthonys is tiered and Chaminade is not, it’s all honors. Its more important where your child feels comfortable. It’s not so a parent can say “my son goes to Chaminade”[/quote]

Tons of kids leave Chaminade after the first two years there.[/quote]

Classes generally start with 500, graduate 400. It is not for everybody....just like any private or parochial. Go visit both. Spend time talking to current kids and graduated kids. My kids visited both, and know a bunch of kids at both. Everyone seems happy at both schools. For us the tiebreaker was the unreal alumni network at Chaminade. That being said, maybe StA has the same.

Bro, Those two private schools you mentioned recruit players from all over LI. They have the best players because of that reason. They should stick to playing private schools only. Stop with the b/s.

Did you really just try to compare Chaminade to St. Anthony's academically?? No horse in the race here, looked at both, but chose for my son to attend a co-ed boarding school in Massachusetts. Chaminade and St. A's are not close from a rigor, discipline and tolerance of nonsense perspective. I'm sure there are some smart kids at St. A's, but there is not much of a "tier" academically at Chaminade. Those that cannot handle it or don't like it transfer out. St. A's does have better football and lacrosse, I'll give you that-but even that is a much closer comparison than the academic one. Stop the nonsense. And agreed, the mighty catholics should stick to playing other private schools of the same ilk and stop coming on here boasting that you beat this or that public school-apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did you really just try to compare Chaminade to St. Anthony's academically?? No horse in the race here, looked at both, but chose for my son to attend a co-ed boarding school in Massachusetts. Chaminade and St. A's are not close from a rigor, discipline and tolerance of nonsense perspective. I'm sure there are some smart kids at St. A's, but there is not much of a "tier" academically at Chaminade. Those that cannot handle it or don't like it transfer out. St. A's does have better football and lacrosse, I'll give you that-but even that is a much closer comparison than the academic one. Stop the nonsense. And agreed, the mighty catholics should stick to playing other private schools of the same ilk and stop coming on here boasting that you beat this or that public school-apples to oranges.

Rigor, discipline and tolerance..I’ll try to instill that from the parent side of things I guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

Moderators – if you feel this should be a different new thread, feel free to move it.

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a TL;DR summary at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on

Yes, I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … Be realistic about your kid’s ability.
3) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
4) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
5) Have fun – to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decision with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying your kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics for the sake of being D1 for a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if you are a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If you don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about your high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed against the National Stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. Honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High School / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Your kid’s High School – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools from the run-of-the-mill high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
4) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows you and will go to bat for you. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. Finally, these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Some are outright frauds. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting. Others really only promote their best players. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program. Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
5) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
6) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, apex, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses so don’t be that parent.
7) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting your player (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
8) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies. If you are on defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
9) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). Some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college.
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can comment is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on, there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber school
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper. Just make sure that is because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI.
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found academically, they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.

D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs

D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year

D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

THANK YOU!

This should be posted in the HS forum of all regions. Very good info.

Here’s the best advice I can give: Go to the best, most appropriate academic school possible for your kid. Period. Everything else is secondary. Jacksonville doing well right now. But you want your kid there or at some stronger academic school they’d whip? How about High Point? Should your kid go there or Dartmouth which traditionally occupies the basement of the Ivy League? Most of us would kill to have our kids go to Dartmouth. On the other hand if Jacksonville or High Point are academically appropriate for your kid….then have at it and send him there. Do the best you can to cast a wide net for recruiting. But never trade down academically…..And never go to a school unless you’d be happy there without lacrosse. There are a million things that can get in the way of a happy four years and MANY boys and girls drop out along the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s the best advice I can give: Go to the best, most appropriate academic school possible for your kid. Period. Everything else is secondary. Jacksonville doing well right now. But you want your kid there or at some stronger academic school they’d whip? How about High Point? Should your kid go there or Dartmouth which traditionally occupies the basement of the Ivy League? Most of us would kill to have our kids go to Dartmouth. On the other hand if Jacksonville or High Point are academically appropriate for your kid….then have at it and send him there. Do the best you can to cast a wide net for recruiting. But never trade down academically…..And never go to a school unless you’d be happy there without lacrosse. There are a million things that can get in the way of a happy four years and MANY boys and girls drop out along the way.

Unless your kid is really, really smart then I wouldn't send them to an Ivy unless they are going to be something professionally high end...they sign about 80 kids each year so its a really small pool your talking about lax wise....the college lax team becomes your fraternity for life and it is a blast...go to school have fun, get a degree and you will get a job almost anywhere, the academic schools are becoming overstated now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s the best advice I can give: Go to the best, most appropriate academic school possible for your kid. Period. Everything else is secondary. Jacksonville doing well right now. But you want your kid there or at some stronger academic school they’d whip? How about High Point? Should your kid go there or Dartmouth which traditionally occupies the basement of the Ivy League? Most of us would kill to have our kids go to Dartmouth. On the other hand if Jacksonville or High Point are academically appropriate for your kid….then have at it and send him there. Do the best you can to cast a wide net for recruiting. But never trade down academically…..And never go to a school unless you’d be happy there without lacrosse. There are a million things that can get in the way of a happy four years and MANY boys and girls drop out along the way.

Unless your kid is really, really smart then I wouldn't send them to an Ivy unless they are going to be something professionally high end...they sign about 80 kids each year so its a really small pool your talking about lax wise....the college lax team becomes your fraternity for life and it is a blast...go to school have fun, get a degree and you will get a job almost anywhere, the academic schools are becoming overstated now.

I have one out of college working as a Speech Therapist, one in college and one senior and I believe in Education. But my plumber profits over a million bucks a year every year without lifting a finger, he has 10 plumbers and drain guys that work for him and he started with just one truck; my ac and heating guy profits over five hundred thousand a year, again without lifting a finger. Just blows my mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here’s the best advice I can give: Go to the best, most appropriate academic school possible for your kid. Period. Everything else is secondary. Jacksonville doing well right now. But you want your kid there or at some stronger academic school they’d whip? How about High Point? Should your kid go there or Dartmouth which traditionally occupies the basement of the Ivy League? Most of us would kill to have our kids go to Dartmouth. On the other hand if Jacksonville or High Point are academically appropriate for your kid….then have at it and send him there. Do the best you can to cast a wide net for recruiting. But never trade down academically…..And never go to a school unless you’d be happy there without lacrosse. There are a million things that can get in the way of a happy four years and MANY boys and girls drop out along the way.

Unless your kid is really, really smart then I wouldn't send them to an Ivy unless they are going to be something professionally high end...they sign about 80 kids each year so its a really small pool your talking about lax wise....the college lax team becomes your fraternity for life and it is a blast...go to school have fun, get a degree and you will get a job almost anywhere, the academic schools are becoming overstated now.

I have one out of college working as a Speech Therapist, one in college and one senior and I believe in Education. But my plumber profits over a million bucks a year every year without lifting a finger, he has 10 plumbers and drain guys that work for him and he started with just one truck; my ac and heating guy profits over five hundred thousand a year, again without lifting a finger. Just blows my mind.

They are not plumbers or AC guys, they are businessmen. Big difference.

Some of the things that can go wrong:

1. You get hurt;
2. You can’t swing academics and fill-time D1 commitment
3. Coach you loved and who recruited you leaves
4. Kids above you with extra year of eligibility don’t leave
5. For whatever reason your position coach you
6. Turns out you detest the school
7. You get in trouble and it impacts your role on the team
8. Covid (enough said)

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

SA has reclasses? I thought that was reserved for boarding schools. Are the majority of their 17 kids that see the field are seniors?

All I know is that when St. Anthony’s is sending more lacrosse players to Harvard than Chaminade, there is a problem in Mineola. It won’t be solved until there is new blood and a realization that it is no longer automatic and you have to work the phones and help these kids get recruited. Harvard coach is a Chaminade alum for crying out loud….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Just go away, the post was worthless. Over the years, Chaminade has lost to town teams.

St. Anthony’s is in an elite class this year. That’s reason they are getting the offers they are getting.

Didn’t know harvard was the only good school with a lacrosse program.

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Not on either side of this argument but with this statement you are just completely wrong. You can be a senior and still be a reclass. There was a 20 year old commit last year on st. ants, this doesn’t make him not a reclass because he is a senior. Didn’t know where you were going with that. Also St. Anthony’s is a junior based team as they have a stacked 23 class so that’s another incorrect statement.

Makes sense! Many people have many different reasons to go to the schools they go to, but Chaminade is an extremely challenging school so I’m just stating it’s impressive how they balance both so well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Was this written by a student? Both schools great schools in their own rights, enough. Chaminade hasn't even started practice yet, so calm down!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Has Chaminade not lost to Public Schools over the years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Has Chaminade not lost to Public Schools over the years?

Wow. Genius. So you take kids from all over and you can beat a team with a specific geographic boundary. Way to be tough guy. How did you do against Darien last year?
Youre very special!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Ummmm....they should dominate a public school division, they are a private school that can take in student athletes from all over!!
Way to go out on a limb with that prediction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Ummmm....they should dominate a public school division, they are a private school that can take in student athletes from all over!!
Way to go out on a limb with that prediction.

Original post is hilarious, what a dope!

Btw teams like Manhasset, GC and Massapequa tend to be in the top 20 more often than not. Add in the recent success of teams like Mnt Sinai and SWR and you will find them there as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

SA has reclasses? I thought that was reserved for boarding schools. Are the majority of their 17 kids that see the field are seniors?

Don't kid yourself Chaminade has reclasses as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

SA has reclasses? I thought that was reserved for boarding schools. Are the majority of their 17 kids that see the field are seniors?

Don't kid yourself Chaminade has reclasses as well.

Just curious, Are all the Chaminade players “on age” for the grade they are in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed

from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

SA has reclasses? I thought that was reserved for boarding schools. Are the majority of their 17 kids that see the field are seniors?

Don't kid yourself Chaminade has reclasses as well.

Just curious, Are all the Chaminade players “on age” for the grade they are in?

Nope. Just like all the privates . Most are but some are not. I know at least 2 1 coached in youth football and the other is my nephew

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can’t wait for this LI boys Hs season especially in the Private school league. I got so much respect for Chaminade as they are all not only non-reclasses but challenge themselves every single day at single and also amazing lacrosse players. St. Ants is always pretty good too but it’s kind of embarrassing that they need kids to reclass and honestly it’s just a place where all the athletes who aren’t smart enough for Chaminade go. Can’t wait to see both these teams as both are stacked, but I’m also expecting an ‘underdog’ story and complete dominance displayed

from the flyers.

Honestly, not everyone wants to go to Chaminade. Good athletes or not! Plenty kids transfer out because it is not for them. And, it’s not just due to academics either… could be social reasons. The All boy schools are not for everyone. I also doubt very highly Flyers are going to completely dominate this year. Let’s Circle back in a couple of months.
How many kids are at Chaminade because it’s their parents choice? Hmmm 90%? Alumni network , etc…. Things are changing.

SA has reclasses? I thought that was reserved for boarding schools. Are the majority of their 17 kids that see the field are seniors?

Don't kid yourself Chaminade has reclasses as well.

Just curious, Are all the Chaminade players “on age” for the grade they are in?

Nope. Just like all the privates . Most are but some are not. I know at least 2 1 coached in youth football and the other is my nephew

I thought holdbacks weren't a thing on the island.....

I thought holdbacks weren't a thing on the island.....[/quote]
Define "holdback".... on LI it is done one of two ways. 1) Parents know the advantage of having an older kid in a grade and enter them into school late so that they are, on average, a year older. 2) kid will go from a public school 8th grade to a private school and repeat that grade. They may return to public school the following year or continue on with private school. This debate will never end and it is a legitimate concern when kids are younger and can get hurt by a bigger / stronger kid. By the time they are in HS it is moot. I am not saying that the older kids will not be stronger and bigger but most kids have grown and it is just unfortunate for the late bloomers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought holdbacks weren't a thing on the island.....

Define "holdback".... on LI it is done one of two ways. 1) Parents know the advantage of having an older kid in a grade and enter them into school late so that they are, on average, a year older. 2) kid will go from a public school 8th grade to a private school and repeat that grade. They may return to public school the following year or continue on with private school. This debate will never end and it is a legitimate concern when kids are younger and can get hurt by a bigger / stronger kid. Yea By the time they are in HS it is moot. I am not saying that the older kids will not be stronger and bigger but most kids have grown and it is just unfortunate for the late bloomers.[/quote]

Really? Look at St. A, Chaminade and even some publics like Mt. S. holdbacks are rampant. Not a moot point, it’s gaming the system at the expense of others who do thing the ethical way. I will always root for the on age kid over the holdback, and nothing is better than the look on holdback dads face when on age kid burns him. Priceless!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought holdbacks weren't a thing on the island.....

Define "holdback".... on LI it is done one of two ways. 1) Parents know the advantage of having an older kid in a grade and enter them into school late so that they are, on average, a year older. 2) kid will go from a public school 8th grade to a private school and repeat that grade. They may return to public school the following year or continue on with private school. This debate will never end and it is a legitimate concern when kids are younger and can get hurt by a bigger / stronger kid. Yea By the time they are in HS it is moot. I am not saying that the older kids will not be stronger and bigger but most kids have grown and it is just unfortunate for the late bloomers.

Really? Look at St. A, Chaminade and even some publics like Mt. S. holdbacks are rampant. Not a moot point, it’s gaming the system at the expense of others who do thing the ethical way. I will always root for the on age kid over the holdback, and nothing is better than the look on holdback dads face when on age kid burns him. Priceless![/quote]
I'm not sure what your "really?" means. I wasn't taking a side on this and just explained how it is usually done. Nor did I mention how rampant it may be or what schools it is pervasive at. You can disagree whether it is really that big an advantage in high school or not. I to will always be supportive of the on age players but a good player is a good player regardless of holdback or not.

My son said many parents stayed to watch H.S. tryouts? Especially in junior, senior years.

holdbacks do happen at Chaminade but definitely not "rampant". I don't think any seniors this year are holdbacks.

St. A's gets called out more due to "double holdbacks".

USA lacrosse has allowed this to happen in youth leagues and now its common place. Couple that with the NCAA transfer portal and terrible Covid policy and you have an unfair system.....

USA lacrosse never has an never will have any control or oversight over any youth lacrosse league. In the 10 years we have had to pay our kids “membership fee” the only thing we have seen from them is their lame magazine. It only exists to take your $50 a year.
The NCAA 5th year Covid policy will roll downhill to the high school classes that are impacted. Just heard an interview by a football coach last night regarding this. His take, why would he take an 18 year old out of high school versus a 22 year old who has college experience. It’s a no brainer for coaches. Because of that, kids will reclass to try and avoid the NCAA Covid years. It’s unfair all around and the NCAA extra year is a disaster.

"USA lacrosse never has an never will have any control or oversight over any youth lacrosse league. In the 10 years we have had to pay our kids “membership fee” the only thing we have seen from them is their lame magazine. It only exists to take your $50 a year.
The NCAA 5th year Covid policy will roll downhill to the high school classes that are impacted. Just heard an interview by a football coach last night regarding this. His take, why would he take an 18 year old out of high school versus a 22 year old who has college experience. It’s a no brainer for coaches. Because of that, kids will reclass to try and avoid the NCAA Covid years. It’s unfair all around and the NCAA extra year is a disaster."

+1
The only Governing Body more corrupt and out of touch than USA Lacrosse is the NCAA. Our sport has been the victim of terrible leadership for decades. USA Lacrosse should not be able to demand $50 from every player, coach and official in the country without providing a single functional service. The reffing landscape is terrible right now, the rules change every year (and we have multiple sets of rules for indoor, full field, box and now Sixes). The Developmental Team tryouts were a shambles. No U19 boy we know tried out because the competition was a fall Saturday, when all of them would have been playing football for their high schools. USA Lacrosse hold a mirror up to yourself and start getting a 360 degree feedback about your leadership!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put Chaminade in any public school division and they own it (same w St. Anthony’s). Can’t really disrespect a team that’s constantly ranked top 15 in the country every single year. (And I went to St. Ants)

Has Chaminade not lost to Public Schools over the years?

Wow. Genius. So you take kids from all over and you can beat a team with a specific geographic boundary. Way to be tough guy. How did you do against Darien last year?
Youre very special!

Chaminade does not recruit. Leave that to the other guys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"USA lacrosse never has an never will have any control or oversight over any youth lacrosse league. In the 10 years we have had to pay our kids “membership fee” the only thing we have seen from them is their lame magazine. It only exists to take your $50 a year.
The NCAA 5th year Covid policy will roll downhill to the high school classes that are impacted. Just heard an interview by a football coach last night regarding this. His take, why would he take an 18 year old out of high school versus a 22 year old who has college experience. It’s a no brainer for coaches. Because of that, kids will reclass to try and avoid the NCAA Covid years. It’s unfair all around and the NCAA extra year is a disaster."

+1
The only Governing Body more corrupt and out of touch than USA Lacrosse is the NCAA. Our sport has been the victim of terrible leadership for decades. USA Lacrosse should not be able to demand $50 from every player, coach and official in the country without providing a single functional service. The reffing landscape is terrible right now, the rules change every year (and we have multiple sets of rules for indoor, full field, box and now Sixes). The Developmental Team tryouts were a shambles. No U19 boy we know tried out because the competition was a fall Saturday, when all of them would have been playing football for their high schools. USA Lacrosse hold a mirror up to yourself and start getting a 360 degree feedback about your leadership!

How can Soccer and Hockey development and youth programs do it right and Lacrosse fails miserably

May I suggest that the HS lax forum be split into separate Public and Private threads?

Question; our public hs has policy of taking all seniors and juniors (boys and girls), usually no cuts, which in turn discourages the underclass more skilled kids and leads to a diluted talent pool. When pressed the administration and coaches say that's the way its always been. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May I suggest that the HS lax forum be split into separate Public and Private threads?

That's a terrible idea, especially since when anyone says "private" schools we're usually only referring to two teams (two teams which play multiple important games each year against NY metro area public school teams).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May I suggest that the HS lax forum be split into separate Public and Private threads?

Question; our public hs has policy of taking all seniors and juniors (boys and girls), usually no cuts, which in turn discourages the underclass more skilled kids and leads to a diluted talent pool. When pressed the administration and coaches say that's the way its always been. Thoughts?

Don’t really get your point. Are you saying skilled 9th and 10th graders choose not to play because there are lesser skilled 11th and 12th graders that make the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

May I suggest that the HS lax forum be split into separate Public and Private threads?

Question; our public hs has policy of taking all seniors and juniors (boys and girls), usually no cuts, which in turn discourages the underclass more skilled kids and leads to a diluted talent pool. When pressed the administration and coaches say that's the way its always been. Thoughts?

No, it’s HS lax. All the privates play publics.

St. John’s from DC is coming up to play to St Ants. Game will be on ESPN. Can the DC school hang? May check it out in person.

I believe they are 1 in country. So i assume they will hang and probably be favored

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. John’s from DC is coming up to play to St Ants. Game will be on ESPN. Can the DC school hang? May check it out in person.

When and what time is this game? I think St. John's is one of the top teams in the country.

Future at Chaminade lacrosse is in a slide. Their 10th grade team tied the Friars freshman team today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Future at Chaminade lacrosse is in a slide. Their 10th grade team tied the Friars freshman team today.

That’s very funny! No one keeps score at a scrimmage!

It’s a tie … lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Future at Chaminade lacrosse is in a slide. Their 10th grade team tied the Friars freshman team today.

That’s very funny! No one keeps score at a scrimmage!

It’s a tie … lol.

Who won in the 5th quarter?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Future at Chaminade lacrosse is in a slide. Their 10th grade team tied the Friars freshman team today.

That’s very funny! No one keeps score at a scrimmage!

It’s a tie … lol.

Who won in the 5th quarter?

The funny part is Chaminade played everyone and St. Anthony’s didn’t. It’s called a scrimmage for a reason.

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. John’s from DC is coming up to play to St Ants. Game will be on ESPN. Can the DC school hang? May check it out in person.

They will wear out St Ants like an old hat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Sounds like the typical Xpress A team....

I would encourage you to have your son speak to his coach asap. Otherwise he will get lost in sauce.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Sounds like the typical Xpress A team....

I would encourage you to have your son speak to his coach asap. Otherwise he will get lost in sauce.

If he has to speak to the coach he's already lost in the sauce.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Future at Chaminade lacrosse is in a slide. Their 10th grade team tied the Friars freshman team today.

That’s very funny! No one keeps score at a scrimmage!

It’s a tie … lol.

Who won in the 5th quarter?

The funny part is Chaminade played everyone and St. Anthony’s didn’t. It’s called a scrimmage for a reason.

Chaminade is scrimmaging today with 3 public schools at Cantiague Park.

There has to be a better resource for locating score and stats than Newsday. Often scores and stats are incorrect or missing. I've been told that the scorebook is the responsibility of the winning team but not sure if that is true. With scoring titles and school records on the line who checks these things for accuracy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There has to be a better resource for locating score and stats than Newsday. Often scores and stats are incorrect or missing. I've been told that the scorebook is the responsibility of the winning team but not sure if that is true. With scoring titles and school records on the line who checks these things for accuracy?

Scores and Stats reporting have always been inconsistent and somewhat inaccurate. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There has to be a better resource for locating score and stats than Newsday. Often scores and stats are incorrect or missing. I've been told that the scorebook is the responsibility of the winning team but not sure if that is true. With scoring titles and school records on the line who checks these things for accuracy?

Scores and Stats reporting have always been inconsistent and somewhat inaccurate. It is what it is.

Nobody checks for accuracy, most of the time the stats are kept by HS girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There has to be a better resource for locating score and stats than Newsday. Often scores and stats are incorrect or missing. I've been told that the scorebook is the responsibility of the winning team but not sure if that is true. With scoring titles and school records on the line who checks these things for accuracy?

Here is what you do, go to your kid's game. Write down all his stats for yourself. Rip the book out of the Sophomore girl's hand, tell her you are compiling really important information that could be vital to your son receiving a full ride to Duke. Now compare the stats, if she got it wrong, cross out and initial and put the proper stats in there. Go get 'em, Tiger!!

Dominate (12-4) win by Mt Sinai over Northport. Class C county champ over Class A. No Northport goals 6 on 6. Even after they lost their #1 defenseman. Did anyone expect such a result?

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

SA would beat them!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There has to be a better resource for locating score and stats than Newsday. Often scores and stats are incorrect or missing. I've been told that the scorebook is the responsibility of the winning team but not sure if that is true. With scoring titles and school records on the line who checks these things for accuracy?

Here is what you do, go to your kid's game. Write down all his stats for yourself. Rip the book out of the Sophomore girl's hand, tell her you are compiling really important information that could be vital to your son receiving a full ride to Duke. Now compare the stats, if she got it wrong, cross out and initial and put the proper stats in there. Go get 'em, Tiger!!

Only The people in Mt Sinai care.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

Don’t get ahead of yourself there Sparky, they are very good but Northport was a one year wonder. There are plenty of the usual suspects who will run with them.

Especially St. A. Too bad that won’t happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

Easy with that. Yorktown game them all they can handle yesterday. Joey S. Is a special player who scored 5 out of the 7 goals they had, remove him from that team and they are average at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

Don’t get ahead of yourself there Sparky, they are very good but Northport was a one year wonder. There are plenty of the usual suspects who will run with them.

Especially St. A. Too bad that won’t happen.

Anything can happen if 2 coaches want it to……. There’s plenty of fields and good causes they could raise money for… but here’s a suggestion. A day of non league contests to raise money or donations for Ukrainian refugees…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Sounds like the typical Xpress A team....

I would encourage you to have your son speak to his coach asap. Otherwise he will get lost in sauce.

Why do kids keep signing up to stand on the sidelines at LIE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Sounds like the typical Xpress A team....

I would encourage you to have your son speak to his coach asap. Otherwise he will get lost in sauce.

Why do kids keep signing up to stand on the sidelines at LIE

As for your club comment Coaches in PAL, where it’s mandatory for every kid to play at 6 minutes a half have kids stand on the sidelines, every coach and team does this. And as for being upset about playing time…it’s HS, and the best play, period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did. They’re really good and have probably the best HS coaches on LI and the #1 recruit in the country. They're going to beat anyone they play by at least 5 goals. There’s not a team in Suffolk that will hang with them. That includes St Anthony’s. It’s only 1 game but they ran Northport off the field.

Easy with that. Yorktown game them all they can handle yesterday. Joey S. Is a special player who scored 5 out of the 7 goals they had, remove him from that team and they are average at best.

There are not a lot teams in the tri-state that could handle St As or Chaminade this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m upset here. St A had a scrimmage and my son played 0 minutes, 25 other kids watched the game standing with him. But the uniforms fit well even though my boy apparently won’t be needing it.

Sounds like the typical Xpress A team....

I would encourage you to have your son speak to his coach asap. Otherwise he will get lost in sauce.

Why do kids keep signing up to stand on the sidelines at LIE

As for your club comment Coaches in PAL, where it’s mandatory for every kid to play at 6 minutes a half have kids stand on the sidelines, every coach and team does this. And as for being upset about playing time…it’s HS, and the best play, period.

In games, sure, you play the best and ride them to win. Except, we are talking about a scrimmage. You run 15 or 16 kids in a scrimmage? Wow.

That kid is a one man show! 91 smash was nothing untail that kid left 2020 crush and played on that team!

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

We have a buddy whose wife volunteered to help with the scoring for the local public school (Nassau) team because “nobody wanted to do it.” It was amazing how quickly she started counting hockey assists as assists and Junior started flying up the points chart. Nobody cared except for the stunands who pull together these “Top 100” lists who figured this kid must be something to be such a prolific scorer. Whatever it takes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

It's a silly question, you know it. Stats don't matter, it's been proven numerous times. Recruiters don't look at Newsday, they see what they want on the field. Stats are for guys like you to show everyone at work what a stud your kid is. But maybe if you keep patting that guy on the back he'll take you out for a nice steak dinner. Just be careful of what he wants in return there skippy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

It's a silly question, you know it. Stats don't matter, it's been proven numerous times. Recruiters don't look at Newsday, they see what they want on the field. Stats are for guys like you to show everyone at work what a stud your kid is. But maybe if you keep patting that guy on the back he'll take you out for a nice steak dinner. Just be careful of what he wants in return there skippy.

I'm a union dock builder. Today at work there was a guy doing just that at work. Trying to portray how much of a stud lacrosse player his son is. Well, after 3 minutes of his bosting, and predicting where and what his kid is going to do for a living in front of 5 other guys, I felt so sorry for this guy for opening his mouth. Guy talks to me all day long about how great his kid is. My kid is an average middle school player, mostly playing the game for fun. Some parents are just so over the top with their MDLax and fail to realize no one outside of their circle CARES about someone's kid playing lacrosse.

There is more to lax than getting recruited. Stats don’t matter than don’t keep track of them “skippy”. The point is if you’re gonna report them make sure they’re right. And maybe stats didn’t matter when you were playing the triangle in marching band but kids care, awards are given and lists are generated. Nobody said that college recruiters look at newsday, but thanks for your enlightening response champ.

Hicksville LEGIT!!!!!!!!! Offense Clicking. Go COMETS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

It's a silly question, you know it. Stats don't matter, it's been proven numerous times. Recruiters don't look at Newsday, they see what they want on the field. Stats are for guys like you to show everyone at work what a stud your kid is. But maybe if you keep patting that guy on the back he'll take you out for a nice steak dinner. Just be careful of what he wants in return there skippy.

I'm a union dock builder. Today at work there was a guy doing just that at work. Trying to portray how much of a stud lacrosse player his son is. Well, after 3 minutes of his bosting, and predicting where and what his kid is going to do for a living in front of 5 other guys, I felt so sorry for this guy for opening his mouth. Guy talks to me all day long about how great his kid is. My kid is an average middle school player, mostly playing the game for fun. Some parents are just so over the top with their MDLax and fail to realize no one outside of their circle CARES about someone's kid playing lacrosse.

What does being a union dock builder have to do with it? I'm a union surveyor, does anyone care?

It’s unfortunate that people feel it is necessary to be so rude. Why did you feel that anyone cares about your response. Just say nothing. The guy said he is union dock builder. So what. What did he say that was so wrong? Insecure donk.

St A's JV vs WM 17-3 .. How does this help anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A's JV vs WM 17-3 .. How does this help anyone?

It's all about the W.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A's JV vs WM 17-3 .. How does this help anyone?

It doesn’t! Same with SA JV girls. The schedule is terrible and they will have zero competition. Don’t know what can be done different with scheduling?

St. A's V/JV is so good is that what you wanted to hear, does that make you feel better about yourself smh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

It's a silly question, you know it. Stats don't matter, it's been proven numerous times. Recruiters don't look at Newsday, they see what they want on the field. Stats are for guys like you to show everyone at work what a stud your kid is. But maybe if you keep patting that guy on the back he'll take you out for a nice steak dinner. Just be careful of what he wants in return there skippy.

I'm a union dock builder. Today at work there was a guy doing just that at work. Trying to portray how much of a stud lacrosse player his son is. Well, after 3 minutes of his bosting, and predicting where and what his kid is going to do for a living in front of 5 other guys, I felt so sorry for this guy for opening his mouth. Guy talks to me all day long about how great his kid is. My kid is an average middle school player, mostly playing the game for fun. Some parents are just so over the top with their MDLax and fail to realize no one outside of their circle CARES about someone's kid playing lacrosse.

What does being a union dock builder have to do with it? I'm a union surveyor, does anyone care?

As a union surveyor, are you capable of reading beyond the first sentence? Try to rewind back to your grammar school days; what is the point of the paragraph?

Yep

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure why you jumped down this guys throat. He is asking a legit question. If stats don’t matter why does everyone cite them? Not sure who pissed in your coffee to get so agitated about someone’s legitimate question. Is this what forums are for you to rip someone and then high five your buddy in the cubicle next to you?

It's a silly question, you know it. Stats don't matter, it's been proven numerous times. Recruiters don't look at Newsday, they see what they want on the field. Stats are for guys like you to show everyone at work what a stud your kid is. But maybe if you keep patting that guy on the back he'll take you out for a nice steak dinner. Just be careful of what he wants in return there skippy.

I'm a union dock builder. Today at work there was a guy doing just that at work. Trying to portray how much of a stud lacrosse player his son is. Well, after 3 minutes of his bosting, and predicting where and what his kid is going to do for a living in front of 5 other guys, I felt so sorry for this guy for opening his mouth. Guy talks to me all day long about how great his kid is. My kid is an average middle school player, mostly playing the game for fun. Some parents are just so over the top with their MDLax and fail to realize no one outside of their circle CARES about someone's kid playing lacrosse.

What does being a union dock builder have to do with it? I'm a union surveyor, does anyone care?

As a union surveyor, are you capable of reading beyond the first sentence? Try to rewind back to your grammar school days; what is the point of the paragraph?

Don’t be that guy.

'Sup Syo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Sup Syo?

not so good so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'Sup Syo?

not so good so far.

Lost to some very good teams

What happened to Carey? Lost to Roslyn yesterday.

Maybe Roslyn pretty good.

Roslyn scored from the 35 yard line

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Roslyn scored from the 35 yard line

Roslyn has a lacrosse team ?

Chaminade looking like a JV team this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade looking like a JV team this year.

Wednesday’s game - Friars by 6. Chaminade can’t stop that Friar offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade looking like a JV team this year.

Friars by 6 this Wednesday. No way Chaminade can stop our offense playing like they did this week.

Looks like Nassau Conference is 1 is down this year. All the teams look pretty average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Roslyn pretty good.

Roslyn not good or Jehrico. They play horrible competition. Why are girls from theses teams getting in Newsday as athlete of the week?? They would be destroyed by any real team. Why not honor the actual best girls on LI? A trophy for everyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Carey? Lost to Roslyn yesterday.

Yeah, everyone knew they were not going to be as good as last year but this is crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade looking like a JV team this year.

How are they ranked? Iona should have beat them and theyre nothing special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Roslyn pretty good.

Roslyn not good or Jehrico. They play horrible competition. Why are girls from theses teams getting in Newsday as athlete of the week?? They would be destroyed by any real team. Why not honor the actual best girls on LI? A trophy for everyone?

If you knew anything about hs schedules, conferences and school populations you would understand there is very little latitude in who you play. If these players excel they shouldn't be commended because they are from a district that prides itself in something other than athletic prowess? Get over yourself, more to life than lacrosse.

What high school is looking good in Suffolk D1?

Huntington, except when they play out of conference...

Some of the people on this page are a disgrace. G-D forbid you kid plays for a team thats not a powerhouse. Are these people serious? They need to get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Nassau Conference is 1 is down this year. All the teams look pretty average.

I don’t know if the teams are more even or just less talent on the top teams. This conference for the past few years has been a 4 team conference Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, and Port. We knew Syosset was going to be good but would not be at the level of the past few years. This is looking to be the case. Farmingdale still looks strong Port is about the same as last year. Very strong team but not elite. Massapequa is the wild card. New coach so it may take a few weeks before they hit their stride. I think any of those teams can win it Should be a fun few weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the people on this page are a disgrace. G-D forbid you kid plays for a team thats not a powerhouse. Are these people serious? They need to get a life.

It's a real college application resume builder to say you were third middie line at (insert powerhouse name) high school. 99% of these kids will never play lacrosse again, wake up. I am proud to say our hs is a very average lacrosse team but places most graduates at high academic colleges.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What high school is looking good in Suffolk D1?

NORTHPORT
Huntington

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Nassau Conference is 1 is down this year. All the teams look pretty average.

I don’t know if the teams are more even or just less talent on the top teams. This conference for the past few years has been a 4 team conference Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, and Port. We knew Syosset was going to be good but would not be at the level of the past few years. This is looking to be the case. Farmingdale still looks strong Port is about the same as last year. Very strong team but not elite. Massapequa is the wild card. New coach so it may take a few weeks before they hit their stride. I think any of those teams can win it Should be a fun few weeks.

1) Farmingdale
2) Port Washington
3) Pequa
4) Syosset

IMO. Farmingdale a clear No 1. Port W and Pequa close at 2 and 3. Syosset far behind at 4. Oceanside may beat Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Nassau Conference is 1 is down this year. All the teams look pretty average.

I don’t know if the teams are more even or just less talent on the top teams. This conference for the past few years has been a 4 team conference Massapequa, Farmingdale, Syosset, and Port. We knew Syosset was going to be good but would not be at the level of the past few years. This is looking to be the case. Farmingdale still looks strong Port is about the same as last year. Very strong team but not elite. Massapequa is the wild card. New coach so it may take a few weeks before they hit their stride. I think any of those teams can win it Should be a fun few weeks.

1) Farmingdale
2) Port Washington
3) Pequa
4) Syosset

IMO. Farmingdale a clear No 1. Port W and Pequa close at 2 and 3. Syosset far behind at 4. Oceanside may beat Syosset.

Sounds like a fair assessment

1) Farmingdale
2) Port Washington
3) Pequa
4) Syosset

IMO. Farmingdale a clear No 1. Port W and Pequa close at 2 and 3. Syosset far behind at 4. Oceanside may beat Syosset.
Sounds like a fair assessment

Dont sleep on Pequa...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1) Farmingdale
2) Port Washington
3) Pequa
4) Syosset

IMO. Farmingdale a clear No 1. Port W and Pequa close at 2 and 3. Syosset far behind at 4. Oceanside may beat Syosset.
Sounds like a fair assessment

Dont sleep on Pequa...

Northport would smoke them all.

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

Northport has very good Fogo, 1 very good attackman, and 1 very good LSM. Otherwise mediocre.

Fdale is far from a clear #1 as a matter of fact I would put them behind Port and Pequa IMO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe Roslyn pretty good.

Roslyn not good or Jehrico. They play horrible competition. Why are girls from theses teams getting in Newsday as athlete of the week?? They would be destroyed by any real team. Why not honor the actual best girls on LI? A trophy for everyone?

Isn't this a Boys High School Lax thread.... why are you bashing a bunch of girls for being considered "athlete of the week". Get a life.

Really dude, Those Private schools should only play private schools and not public schools. They recruit from all over LI.How far is that? They shouldn’t even be in the rankings with the public schools. I guess that St Ants education didn’t give you common sense.

These parents need to get a life.

Yeah, because they are private schools who take from all over the Island. All private schools shouldn’t play public schools or be in their rankings. They should be in the rankings with other private schools. This way public school parents don’t have to deal with obnoxious private school parents like yourself.

Let's have some fun. Who has the best home game DJ?

good question!!! i am sure everyone is partial. One thing-- seems that some schools have it set-up with announcers and some don't - if the equipment exists, it should be as simple as one dad or mom who know the names feeding them to the home announcer (another dad or mom). And what dad wouldn't want to sit in the booth and be useful LOL. It's a nice touch for the kids and attendees.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really dude, Those Private schools should only play private schools and not public schools. They recruit from all over LI.How far is that? They shouldn’t even be in the rankings with the public schools. I guess that St Ants education didn’t give you common sense.

Its a National Ranking I believe and the Majority of the teams are private school?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really dude, Those Private schools should only play private schools and not public schools. They recruit from all over LI.How far is that? They shouldn’t even be in the rankings with the public schools. I guess that St Ants education didn’t give you common sense.

Its a National Ranking I believe and the Majority of the teams are private school?

Plenty of public schools have finished the season #1 in the nation. Darien just beat Chaminade. And Darien was number 1 a few years ago. I would think a public would love to be in those rankings as a sense of program pride. Mt Sinai, which is a public/small school can compete with any school in the Nation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really dude, Those Private schools should only play private schools and not public schools. They recruit from all over LI.How far is that? They shouldn’t even be in the rankings with the public schools. I guess that St Ants education didn’t give you common sense.

Its a National Ranking I believe and the Majority of the teams are private school?

Plenty of public schools have finished the season #1 in the nation. Darien just beat Chaminade. And Darien was number 1 a few years ago. I would think a public would love to be in those rankings as a sense of program pride. Mt Sinai, which is a public/small school can compete with any school in the Nation.

You're responding to a fool who's clearly not at all familiar with the lacrosse world, especially the lacrosse world on Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Chaminade looking like a JV team this year.

Friars by 6 this Wednesday. No way Chaminade can stop our offense playing like they did this week.

Hope you were smart enough to give the six goals yesterday. Must be nice when you're up by 5 at the half and the other team doesn't make any adjustments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

I believe Manhasset is in Div. 3 with CSH, Wantagh ect...., which looks to be very strong.

19-10 what happened Chaminade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

19-10 what happened Chaminade

What happened, a top team in the country dismantled an overhyped mediocre team from LI. Chaminade is simply not that good and their results show that……1 goal last few minutes win against Iona show that Chaminade is not a top 20 team and hard pressed to say there are in the top 50.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

I believe Manhasset is in Div. 3 with CSH, Wantagh ect...., which looks to be very strong.

Every year GC, CSH and Manhasset play such inferior opponents within their conferences. Does anyone know the reason why they don't have a power conference?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

good question!!! i am sure everyone is partial. One thing-- seems that some schools have it set-up with announcers and some don't - if the equipment exists, it should be as simple as one dad or mom who know the names feeding them to the home announcer (another dad or mom). And what dad wouldn't want to sit in the booth and be useful LOL. It's a nice touch for the kids and attendees.

Our school puts out competitive teams every year. We have ZERO no announcers, no music and zero atmosphere. Its really a bad look for the school and district that there is no school spirit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

I believe Manhasset is in Div. 3 with CSH, Wantagh ect...., which looks to be very strong.

Every year GC, CSH and Manhasset play such inferior opponents within their c onferences. Does anyone know the reason why they don't have a power conference?

This silliness again? The reason why is because they don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

good question!!! i am sure everyone is partial. One thing-- seems that some schools have it set-up with announcers and some don't - if the equipment exists, it should be as simple as one dad or mom who know the names feeding them to the home announcer (another dad or mom). And what dad wouldn't want to sit in the booth and be useful LOL. It's a nice touch for the kids and attendees.

Our school puts out competitive teams every year. We have ZERO no announcers, no music and zero atmosphere. Its really a bad look for the school and district that there is no school spirit.

So you volunteered to take this on and get it done yourself right? Or are you just complaining about it on an anonymous forum?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

I believe Manhasset is in Div. 3 with CSH, Wantagh ect...., which looks to be very strong.

Every year GC, CSH and Manhasset play such inferior opponents within their c onferences. Does anyone know the reason why they don't have a power conference?

This silliness again? The reason why is because they don't.

GC played Ward Melville, Syosset, Radnor (Pa), and LaSalle Academy from RI.

CSH over GC today 9-7!

Props to their coach and what he does year in and year out to put such great teams together from a small pool. GC is the ultimate program and model of consistency and winning tradition in Nassau (along with Manhasset) and they get everyone's best shot, but nice to see the under the radar, less acclaimed make a statement. Nice win CSH.

Ward Melville will win D1 Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will win D1 Suffolk

They're simply not that great this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will win D1 Suffolk

They're simply not that great this year.

I watched a few of their games this year. They don't have the kind of chemistry they usually have. It seems like too many kids want to make sure they get theirs instead of making the extra pass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will win D1 Suffolk

They're simply not that great this year.

Suffolk A is sorta down this year. It’s the year of the small schools. CSH and Mt Sinai are as good as any public on LI. St Anthony’s is in a class by itself this year.

As good as any public school in the country and except for a handful, private school as well.

Big doubleheader on friday. Both toss ups?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big doubleheader on friday. Both toss ups?

What teams are playing in this doubleheader ?

St Anthony’s v St. John’s (DC)
Mr Sinai v Garden City

#1,2,3 and 10 in the country
At St Anthony’s on an ESPN channel 219 at 2pm

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Let's have some fun. Who has the best home game DJ?

Not sure if they do it for lacrosse, but Oceanside hd a great atmosphere during the spring covid football playoffs. DJ had a party going in the stands

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Ward Melville will win D1 Suffolk

They're simply not that great this year.

Ward Melville is by far the most dominant program in Suffolk (Nassau as well). West Islip had a nice run but they have been irrelevant for the past 10 years or so and their run was nothing compared to what Ward Melville has done. Every program will have a down year or two (most a lot more than that). Melville definitely off (for WM) the past 2 - 3 years but I would not bet against them and I am sure they will be back on top soon enough.

No question Ward Melville has been the top, most consistent program in Suffolk for the last 40 years. The list of years they did not win Suffolk is a lot shorter than the list of times they did win it. Garden City in Nassau the same is true and going back even further, 50 years. Manhasset a close 2nd and then the rest with probably CSH 3rd and either Massapequa or Syosset after that. I really don't think there is even another name worthy of being thrown into the conversation though someone from Farmingdale may think otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Northport would lose to handful of teams in D2

D1 top spot. D2 is the red headed step child.

You might want to take that up with GC and Manhasset there slick

I believe Manhasset is in Div. 3 with CSH, Wantagh ect...., which looks to be very strong.

Every year GC, CSH and Manhasset play such inferior opponents within their c onferences. Does anyone know the reason why they don't have a power conference?

This silliness again? The reason why is because they don't.

I agree, It's a valid question. Is the outcome of GC vs Herricks or Jericho really in doubt? While we're at it, why is CSH playing in Nassau anyway?

Average Graduating Class Size:
1. Ward Melville: 600
2. Garden City: 280
3. Manhasset: 290
4. Cold Spring Harbor: 160
5. Massapeaqua: 580
6. Syosset: 500

Ward Melville is expected to be the top sport school every year.

The CSH district straddles Nassau and Suffolk. There is an elementary school in Laurel Hollow which is in Nassau and an elementary school in CSH in Suffolk. The HS is located in CSH as well. When the school was opened in the early 60's, because of their enrollment, they would've competed in a league comprised mostly of schools from the North and South forks and eastern suffolk while there were more similarly sized schools much closer in Nassau hence the decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Average Graduating Class Size:
1. Ward Melville: 600
2. Garden City: 280
3. Manhasset: 290
4. Cold Spring Harbor: 160
5. Massapeaqua: 580
6. Syosset: 500

Ward Melville is expected to be the top sport school every year.

Does Manhasset reply have a larger enrollment than GC ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Average Graduating Class Size:
1. Ward Melville: 600
2. Garden City: 280
3. Manhasset: 290
4. Cold Spring Harbor: 160
5. Massapeaqua: 580
6. Syosset: 500

Ward Melville is expected to be the top sport school every year.

There should be a power 10 lacrosse. Winning the conference might actually mean something. Let the mediocre schools play for the privilege of winning a lesser conference and playing up. Most games now are snooze fests and stat padding.

160 is a large CSH class, well above the average 110-120...

True

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Average Graduating Class Size:
1. Ward Melville: 600
2. Garden City: 280
3. Manhasset: 290
4. Cold Spring Harbor: 160
5. Massapeaqua: 580
6. Syosset: 500

Ward Melville is expected to be the top sport school every year.

There should be a power 10 lacrosse. Winning the conference might actually mean something. Let the mediocre schools play for the privilege of winning a lesser conference and playing up. Most games now are snooze fests and stat padding.

That’s how Girls HS lacrosse is. Power conference regular season then return to “enrollment” conference for playoffs. Makes for better competition during the season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No question Ward Melville has been the top, most consistent program in Suffolk for the last 40 years. The list of years they did not win Suffolk is a lot shorter than the list of times they did win it. Garden City in Nassau the same is true and going back even further, 50 years. Manhasset a close 2nd and then the rest with probably CSH 3rd and either Massapequa or Syosset after that. I really don't think there is even another name worthy of being thrown into the conversation though someone from Farmingdale may think otherwise.

Not really accurate at all... While GC won a County and Long Island Championship in 1963 they had a long drought with no Championships up until 1985. Ward Melville won their first County and Long Island Championship in 1974 and have been extremely consistent with the exception of a stretch from 2001 - 2012 when they had no County Championships (I believe WM was in the championship game just about every year during that stretch). So it looks like WM has been the top dog for close to 50 years while GC close to 40 years (Nassau probably had more competition during the early years)

Garden City has been dominant since 85. It looks like WM has been dominant since 74.

Garden City has 23 Nassau County Championships, 17 Long Island Championships and 7 State Championships.

Ward Melville has 27 Suffolk County Championships, 18 Long Island Championships and 10 State Championships.

I would think that Manhasset would be the next up in Nassau but not sure any schools are even close to WM and GC. Farmindale has their fair share of Nassau County Titles but they have not done much beyond that... 2 Long Island Championships and 1 State Championship.

I get the point attempting to be made, bigger schools equals more kids to chose from for a particular sport, therefore they are expected to be better, sounds good on paper however public schools don’t recruit and can only chose from kids in the district, you can have one school with 600 kids and only 10% want to play lax because they may have many other options to chose from and another school with 300 kids and 30% want lax because they have limited options, you can only chose from the kids who want to play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No question Ward Melville has been the top, most consistent program in Suffolk for the last 40 years. The list of years they did not win Suffolk is a lot shorter than the list of times they did win it. Garden City in Nassau the same is true and going back even further, 50 years. Manhasset a close 2nd and then the rest with probably CSH 3rd and either Massapequa or Syosset after that. I really don't think there is even another name worthy of being thrown into the conversation though someone from Farmingdale may think otherwise.

Not really accurate at all... While GC won a County and Long Island Championship in 1963 they had a long drought with no Championships up until 1985. Ward Melville won their first County and Long Island Championship in 1974 and have been extremely consistent with the exception of a stretch from 2001 - 2012 when they had no County Championships (I believe WM was in the championship game just about every year during that stretch). So it looks like WM has been the top dog for close to 50 years while GC close to 40 years (Nassau probably had more competition during the early years)

Garden City has been dominant since 85. It looks like WM has been dominant since 74.

Garden City has 23 Nassau County Championships, 17 Long Island Championships and 7 State Championships.

Ward Melville has 27 Suffolk County Championships, 18 Long Island Championships and 10 State Championships.

I would think that Manhasset would be the next up in Nassau but not sure any schools are even close to WM and GC. Farmindale has their fair share of Nassau County Titles but they have not done much beyond that... 2 Long Island Championships and 1 State Championship.

Pretty sure it was 1966, not 1963...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No question Ward Melville has been the top, most consistent program in Suffolk for the last 40 years. The list of years they did not win Suffolk is a lot shorter than the list of times they did win it. Garden City in Nassau the same is true and going back even further, 50 years. Manhasset a close 2nd and then the rest with probably CSH 3rd and either Massapequa or Syosset after that. I really don't think there is even another name worthy of being thrown into the conversation though someone from Farmingdale may think otherwise.

Not really accurate at all... While GC won a County and Long Island Championship in 1963 they had a long drought with no Championships up until 1985. Ward Melville won their first County and Long Island Championship in 1974 and have been extremely consistent with the exception of a stretch from 2001 - 2012 when they had no County Championships (I believe WM was in the championship game just about every year during that stretch). So it looks like WM has been the top dog for close to 50 years while GC close to 40 years (Nassau probably had more competition during the early years)

Garden City has been dominant since 85. It looks like WM has been dominant since 74.

Garden City has 23 Nassau County Championships, 17 Long Island Championships and 7 State Championships.

Ward Melville has 27 Suffolk County Championships, 18 Long Island Championships and 10 State Championships.

I would think that Manhasset would be the next up in Nassau but not sure any schools are even close to WM and GC. Farmindale has their fair share of Nassau County Titles but they have not done much beyond that... 2 Long Island Championships and 1 State Championship.

Bro, you have 300 boys to chose from are you really comparing WM to a school that is less than half your size?

Power Conference ? And who decides what teams are in the conference, you ? CSH just lost to Rye tonight. There are plenty of competitive games for the top teams in each conference along with some snoozers where some non regulars get some experience. That’s how it works. I see many Nassau schools playing teams like Mamo, Rye , Darien, Yorktown and the like. So they know how to add some more competitive games to their schedule. Maybe the Suffolk schools should follow suit, but that might hurt your ego when we see the final score.

Melville freak, I am not even from GC (CSH) but really?? Acknowledged your district's county dominance and program excellence over the years. But common, as you stated, had an 11 year drought-all good-and your knocking GC for a stretch 50+years ago? LOL. Get a life. I bet you argue at cocktail parties or probably more likely lax tailgates who would win a fight between Spiderman and Superman... To end on a positive note, I respect your town pride.

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Melville freak, I am not even from GC (CSH) but really?? Acknowledged your district's county dominance and program excellence over the years. But common, as you stated, had an 11 year drought-all good-and your knocking GC for a stretch 50+years ago? LOL. Get a life. I bet you argue at cocktail parties or probably more likely lax tailgates who would win a fight between Spiderman and Superman... To end on a positive note, I respect your town pride.

Always laugh when someone on here tells other people to "get a life" as if they are somehow above the nonsense. Why call the person a freak? I didn't see the post as knocking GC at all, it was an informative response to a post that was simply not accurate. I did not realize how impressive Garden City and Ward Melville have been over the years. Obviously they are the two strongest programs on Long Island by a wide margin.

Mt. Sinai will win Friday easily, but GC will keep close because of Faceoffs and will slow down the game. Really looking forward to the St. As and St Js game. St As will need to play a lot better than they did against St Is in the 1st Q to have a shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai will win Friday easily, but GC will keep close because of Faceoffs and will slow down the game. Really looking forward to the St. As and St Js game. St As will need to play a lot better than they did against St Is in the 1st Q to have a shot.

Sooo, will they win easily or will it be close?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai will win Friday easily, but GC will keep close because of Faceoffs and will slow down the game. Really looking forward to the St. As and St Js game. St As will need to play a lot better than they did against St Is in the 1st Q to have a shot.

Sooo, will they win easily or will it be close?

The win will never be in doubt but GC will keep it close.

Suffolk should create smaller conferences similar to what
Nassau has. I think in Suffolk you have something like 14
conference games and 1-2 non conference, whereas Nassau
has 8 conference games and 7 non conference games. The
smaller conferences help both the very successful teams-
who can now play several games against top competition
(Think GC and Mt. Sinai playing every year) and the teams
where lacrosse is not a primary sport in the community can
play half their games against similar teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mt. Sinai will win Friday easily, but GC will keep close because of Faceoffs and will slow down the game. Really looking forward to the St. As and St Js game. St As will need to play a lot better than they did against St Is in the 1st Q to have a shot.

Sooo, will they win easily or will it be close?

What was all that 1 and a million talk

Now do the average of money spent on private training by town.

Youzzas, St John’s just put St Anthony’s through their woodchipper. Not even competitive.

St Anthony’s was thoroughly out played and out coached. Defense looked lost on more than 1/2 of posessions.

Little surprised by the lack of comments about yesterdays games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Little surprised by the lack of comments about yesterdays games.

What did I miss ? I watched the first half of GC game and feel asleep!!! BRUTAL

You missed a gutsy second half performance by an undersized and undermanned but talented ms team. Sj is so loaded they embarrassed a program that usually embarrasses their opponents. If you fell asleep you should quit the night job.

So now who is the best team in the country.
St Johns wins big over St A’s but only beat Hill Academy by 1 - Brunswick beat Hill by 8 on Friday.

It’s definitely between those two but who gets the nod?

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You missed a gutsy second half performance by an undersized and undermanned but talented ms team. Sj is so loaded they embarrassed a program that usually embarrasses their opponents. If you fell asleep you should quit the night job.

SJ is a great team and exposed ST A’s and there weaknesses at that elite level. Well Done SJ coaching staff.

You do realize that all of SJ's players are a minimum 1 year older than SA's players. When it's an entire team of hold backs it is much tougher to compete with on age players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do realize that all of SJ's players are a minimum 1 year older than SA's players. When it's an entire team of hold backs it is much tougher to compete with on age players.

I would say probably by more than just 1 year too. We are talking MD kids who made the holdback thing “a thing”! You will find the double holdbacks at the prep schools like Brunswick as well. If you have a team full of holdbacks, they are more experienced players. I do agree SA also got out coached. However, SJ had more to work with in the holdback kids. Deeper bench. Seems like the holdback thing will continue to be part of the conversation. Check out the college commits to the best programs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now who is the best team in the country.
St Johns wins big over St A’s but only beat Hill Academy by 1 - Brunswick beat Hill by 8 on Friday.

It’s definitely between those two but who gets the nod?

dense argument. Until they play, we’ll never know. SJC beat G prep by 12 or something, Brunswick only beat them by 5. Comparing apples to oranges. What we do know is, SJC has had only one game within about 5 goals. And they just smoked SA on their own turf, up 11-3 till waning minutes when some scrubs were out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do realize that all of SJ's players are a minimum 1 year older than SA's players. When it's an entire team of hold backs it is much tougher to compete with on age players.

Woooow, now we get the holdback excuse. I’ve never heard this argument for HIGH SCHOOL level lacrosse, this is utterly pathetic. Pathetic. In 6th grade, I get the gripe. But dude, these are kids from 4 different grades. And actually, it’s was the sophs and juniors at SJC who laid the beat down on Saint Ants. At least congrats on stepping out of your little LI bubble to take on some teams from MD/DC.

holdbacks is your answer. You have to be part of the problem in America today. SA was out worked by a more talented team. If it wasn’t for the SA goalie the score would have been 20 to 3. They were constantly caught in transition because their star players didn’t hustle back. Awful job by the SA coach. 2/3 of his top midfield line are attackmen and their lack of speed showed. There defense was brutal because they don’t communicate. Not sure what that has to do with holdbacks.
SA coach doesn’t play prep schools because of holdbacks so SJ can’t be that bad and not sure if you know but they have quite a few holdbacks on their team. Take the loss with some grace

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdbacks is your answer. You have to be part of the problem in America today. SA was out worked by a more talented team. If it wasn’t for the SA goalie the score would have been 20 to 3. They were constantly caught in transition because their star players didn’t hustle back. Awful job by the SA coach. 2/3 of his top midfield line are attackmen and their lack of speed showed. There defense was brutal because they don’t communicate. Not sure what that has to do with holdbacks.
SA coach doesn’t play prep schools because of holdbacks so SJ can’t be that bad and not sure if you know but they have quite a few holdbacks on their team. Take the loss with some grace

Agree! SA was Def. Outplayed and out coached! However, the holdback thing is still a thing, especially in MD/DC teams. Yes, LI is catching up to it in the last few years as well. I bet Even the frosh and juniors are holdbacks one or two years on those teams as well? Still a thing! Not going away.

It’s definitely between those two but who gets the nod?[/quote]
dense argument. Until they play, we’ll never know. SJC beat G prep by 12 or something, Brunswick only beat them by 5. Comparing apples to oranges. What we do know is, SJC has had only one game within about 5 goals. And they just smoked SA on their own turf, up 11-3 till waning minutes when some scrubs were out there.[/quote]
Wow, we’re calling kids scrubs? Real nice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdbacks is your answer. You have to be part of the problem in America today. SA was out worked by a more talented team. If it wasn’t for the SA goalie the score would have been 20 to 3. They were constantly caught in transition because their star players didn’t hustle back. Awful job by the SA coach. 2/3 of his top midfield line are attackmen and their lack of speed showed. There defense was brutal because they don’t communicate. Not sure what that has to do with holdbacks.
SA coach doesn’t play prep schools because of holdbacks so SJ can’t be that bad and not sure if you know but they have quite a few holdbacks on their team. Take the loss with some grace

Notes:
SA has holdbacks too so stop.
You lost 11-5 AT HOME and it wasnt even that close. 6 goal difference is hold backs? How about working on the clear where you turned if over way too many times.
Shot clock is a better excuse than hold backs. They play with that down south so not being used to that impacted St Anthony's. Youre obviously not ready for college lax if youre still on about holdbacks and cant run a time offense.
Big Tasty stood on his head. You faced the best goalie in the country who is a junior. So even if he were a holdback he should be a senior. Similarly the attackman that gave you fits is a sophomore.
Is this the coaches talk? this is what St Anthony said to their players "dont worry boys, we dont usually play prep schools because they are older than you. Youll be fine in the world and we would have won if they only played Seniors who are really Senios, cant play Sophomores or Juniors because they are older."
SAD!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Little surprised by the lack of comments about yesterdays games.

What did I miss ? I watched the first half of GC game and feel asleep!!! BRUTAL

Outsider here, tried to watch. GC brand of lacrosse is absolutely awful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do realize that all of SJ's players are a minimum 1 year older than SA's players. When it's an entire team of hold backs it is much tougher to compete with on age players.

I would say probably by more than just 1 year too. We are talking MD kids who made the holdback thing “a thing”! You will find the double holdbacks at the prep schools like Brunswick as well. If you have a team full of holdbacks, they are more experienced players. I do agree SA also got out coached. However, SJ had more to work with in the holdback kids. Deeper bench. Seems like the holdback thing will continue to be part of the conversation. Check out the college commits to the best programs!

Can I get confirmation, that as a St Anthony's parent, your analysis of the game is that you lost because of hold backs?

What you mean? Please explain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s definitely between those two but who gets the nod?

dense argument. Until they play, we’ll never know. SJC beat G prep by 12 or something, Brunswick only beat them by 5. Comparing apples to oranges. What we do know is, SJC has had only one game within about 5 goals. And they just smoked SA on their own turf, up 11-3 till waning minutes when some scrubs were out there.[/quote]
Wow, we’re calling kids scrubs? Real nice[/quote]
Pine huggers, whatever you prefer.

You don’t know what your talking about . My son starts for SJC and is 17 a senior . Take the lost like a man .

Were St Anthonys parents against hold backs when ONeill was helping them beat Chaminade?

Dont get started with the people on this page. Most are angry and delusional. It was a pleasure watching your sons team. I have no dog in the fight as my son plays for a good public school team in Nassau county. SJC beat a really good team and deserves to be number 1. All the other stuff being said is typical excuses.

In the High School thread, there should be no talk of holdbacks. Most every team has players from all 4 grades playing on the Varsity team. If your son cannot compete, then reevaluate his playing ability...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the High School thread, there should be no talk of holdbacks. Most every team has players from all 4 grades playing on the Varsity team. If your son cannot compete, then reevaluate his playing ability...

Why should there be no talk of this? Its a major shift in this and other sports. There are huge differences physically between a Freshman and a 20 year old still in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Were St Anthonys parents against hold backs when ONeill was helping them beat Chaminade?

O'Neill was on age (actually on the younger side for the class of 2020 if you can believe it). McAdorey on the other hand...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

holdbacks is your answer. You have to be part of the problem in America today. SA was out worked by a more talented team. If it wasn’t for the SA goalie the score would have been 20 to 3. They were constantly caught in transition because their star players didn’t hustle back. Awful job by the SA coach. 2/3 of his top midfield line are attackmen and their lack of speed showed. There defense was brutal because they don’t communicate. Not sure what that has to do with holdbacks.
SA coach doesn’t play prep schools because of holdbacks so SJ can’t be that bad and not sure if you know but they have quite a few holdbacks on their team. Take the loss with some grace

Notes:
SA has holdbacks too so stop.
You lost 11-5 AT HOME and it wasnt even that close. 6 goal difference is hold backs? How about working on the clear where you turned if over way too many times.
Shot clock is a better excuse than hold backs. They play with that down south so not being used to that impacted St Anthony's. Youre obviously not ready for college lax if youre still on about holdbacks and cant run a time offense.
Big Tasty stood on his head. You faced the best goalie in the country who is a junior. So even if he were a holdback he should be a senior. Similarly the attackman that gave you fits is a sophomore.
Is this the coaches talk? this is what St Anthony said to their players "dont worry boys, we dont usually play prep schools because they are older than you. Youll be fine in the world and we would have won if they only played Seniors who are really Senios, cant play Sophomores or Juniors because they are older."
SAD!!!!!!

It's even funnier that St Ant's has 91 Bandit players and can't even compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the High School thread, there should be no talk of holdbacks. Most every team has players from all 4 grades playing on the Varsity team. If your son cannot compete, then reevaluate his playing ability...

Why should there be no talk of this? Its a major shift in this and other sports. There are huge differences physically between a Freshman and a 20 year old still in high school.

There are no 20 year olds playing. Stop being ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the High School thread, there should be no talk of holdbacks. Most every team has players from all 4 grades playing on the Varsity team. If your son cannot compete, then reevaluate his playing ability...

Why should there be no talk of this? Its a major shift in this and other sports. There are huge differences physically between a Freshman and a 20 year old still in high school.

There are no 20 year olds playing. Stop being ridiculous.

St John’s Sophomores laid the wood to St Anthony’s seniors….

Hold backs are everywhere. 10th graders driving cars to high school. 24 year old star players at the college level. In fact...hold backs are usually the stand out players at the HS and college level. What does it mean? Who knows. Who cares. Enjoy your kid's lacrosse journey. Maybe the hold backs also over index in trips to therapy when they are in their 40's because they look back on their childhood and realize their parent's tortured them? LOL.

most Prep schools have 20 year old Seniors .. their freshman are on age for public schools.. That's a fact!!! They Still are good lax players. Just be honest about the true reality of the situation

Right from the MIAA handbook no 20 year old senoirs.. 19 yes, not 20

60. Student Eligibility: Age
A student shall be under 19 years of age, but may compete during the remainder of
the school year, provided that student’s 19th birthday occurs on or after September 1
of that year. For Freshman competition only, a student shall be under 16 years of age
but may compete during the remainder of the school year provided that the sixteenth
birthday occurs on or after September 1 of that year. Principals must exercise great
care in determining age of contestants, and in all doubtful cases, must secure birth
certificates from the town clerk of the pupil’s place of birth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right from the MIAA handbook no 20 year old senoirs.. 19 yes, not 20

60. Student Eligibility: Age
A student shall be under 19 years of age, but may compete during the remainder of
the school year, provided that student’s 19th birthday occurs on or after September 1
of that year. For Freshman competition only, a student shall be under 16 years of age
but may compete during the remainder of the school year provided that the sixteenth
birthday occurs on or after September 1 of that year. Principals must exercise great
care in determining age of contestants, and in all doubtful cases, must secure birth
certificates from the town clerk of the pupil’s place of birth.

This is exactly what the #1 2022 Recruit falls into...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

most Prep schools have 20 year old Seniors .. their freshman are on age for public schools.. That's a fact!!! They Still are good lax players. Just be honest about the true reality of the situation

Looks like your fact??? is not really a fact but rather your rantings. That's a fact.

SJC is not a MIAA team or in Baltimore . SJC is a DC team in WCAC.

— If you play at a prep school governed by NEPSAC you can enter your senior year as a 19 year old, turn 20 after September first, ...which is every kid just about so please..

I have a kid on the top NEPSAC team at the moment and am familiar with the ages of the seniors. There are a handful of seniors (maybe 5 or 6) who are 19 already but most are turning 19 this Spring or Summer. No one is 20 years old. Stop being inflammatory just to spin your own narrative.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

— If you play at a prep school governed by NEPSAC you can enter your senior year as a 19 year old, turn 20 after September first, ...which is every kid just about so please..

You lost, move on and stop making excuses. Those same kids will be older in college as well, how will you handle the disappointment there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right from the MIAA handbook no 20 year old senoirs.. 19 yes, not 20

60. Student Eligibility: Age
A student shall be under 19 years of age, but may compete during the remainder of
the school year, provided that student’s 19th birthday occurs on or after September 1
of that year. For Freshman competition only, a student shall be under 16 years of age
but may compete during the remainder of the school year provided that the sixteenth
birthday occurs on or after September 1 of that year. Principals must exercise great
care in determining age of contestants, and in all doubtful cases, must secure birth
certificates from the town clerk of the pupil’s place of birth.

This is exactly what the #1 2022 Recruit falls into...

EXACTLY! People in glass houses....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a kid on the top NEPSAC team at the moment and am familiar with the ages of the seniors. There are a handful of seniors (maybe 5 or 6) who are 19 already but most are turning 19 this Spring or Summer. No one is 20 years old. Stop being inflammatory just to spin your own narrative.

Which is still OLD for high school. Duh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a kid on the top NEPSAC team at the moment and am familiar with the ages of the seniors. There are a handful of seniors (maybe 5 or 6) who are 19 already but most are turning 19 this Spring or Summer. No one is 20 years old. Stop being inflammatory just to spin your own narrative.

Which is still OLD for high school. Duh.

I have a September birthday and celebrated my 18th birthday while I was away at college

Soooo... are we still going to complain about reclassed kids at the college level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo... are we still going to complain about reclassed kids at the college level?

yes, 5th year and 6th year red shirted players.

Big Games this weekend;

GC vs Manhasset
Northport vs Ward Melville
Farmingdale vs Massapequa

Who do you like?

I think Manhasset, Northport, Farmingdale are going to be the winners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Soooo... are we still going to complain about reclassed kids at the college level?

yes, 5th year and 6th year red shirted players.

Except that basketball doesn't complain, football( a violent contact sport) doesn't complain, but yeah the fringe sport with minimal scholarship money that gets overshadowed on ESPN by NCAA Club Frisbee has a grave problem with this. get a grip.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big Games this weekend;

GC vs Manhasset
Northport vs Ward Melville
Farmingdale vs Massapequa

Who do you like?

I think Manhasset, Northport, Farmingdale are going to be the winners.

Manhasset….WM……Farmingdale

GC NP and Pequa

All toss-ups. Could be decided by a post or two. Will tell a lot about np and wm. Would pay to see any of them.. this is what high school lax is all about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a kid on the top NEPSAC team at the moment and am familiar with the ages of the seniors. There are a handful of seniors (maybe 5 or 6) who are 19 already but most are turning 19 this Spring or Summer. No one is 20 years old. Stop being inflammatory just to spin your own narrative.

Which is still OLD for high school. Duh.

I have a September birthday and celebrated my 18th birthday while I was away at college

One of my college teammates was also 17 until October of his Freshman year of college, (disclaimer: he was also 6’4” and an
Absolute monster in the weight room ).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a kid on the top NEPSAC team at the moment and am familiar with the ages of the seniors. There are a handful of seniors (maybe 5 or 6) who are 19 already but most are turning 19 this Spring or Summer. No one is 20 years old. Stop being inflammatory just to spin your own narrative.

Which is still OLD for high school. Duh.

I have a September birthday and celebrated my 18th birthday while I was away at college

One of my college teammates was also 17 until October of his Freshman year of college, (disclaimer: he was also 6’4” and an
Absolute monster in the weight room ).

That's young for college. Have a child who turned 18 Fall of Freshman year. A 19-year-old HS senior is a single-year holdback. It's really not that big a deal. If your son can't play with them now, he's done. Frankly, if you're looking for scholarships lacrosse isn't the best route, hockey and track & field are great if you're not a football or basketball guy.

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

19 year old senior born before Jan 1 is a two year holdback

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

^^^^^^^ THAT ^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

To each his own, a lot of great schools, personally would much rather see my kids at at Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins, Duke, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Virginia, Michigan, UNC, Penn State, Maryland etc... and if they are that level of athlete I would have them consider playing club at a great school. Maybe Florida, Arizona State, Boston College, Clemson, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, USC, Stanford etc....

Who won the manhasset GC game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

^^^^^^^ THAT ^^^^^^^^^

Thank you for this.. can you add more to the list. Thanks.

So is Massapequa tops in Nassau Conference 1?

What will be you're excuse when your child get in to college, 18 year old freshman playing against a 24 year old senior ? redshirt, medical redshirt, 5th year senior and so on. If you cant handle it now, you wont ever be able to handle it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What will be you're excuse when your child get in to college, 18 year old freshman playing against a 24 year old senior ? redshirt, medical redshirt, 5th year senior and so on. If you cant handle it now, you wont ever be able to handle it.

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What will be you're excuse when your child get in to college, 18 year old freshman playing against a 24 year old senior ? redshirt, medical redshirt, 5th year senior and so on. If you cant handle it now, you wont ever be able to handle it.

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

Smartest Quote ever put on this site.. Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So is Massapequa tops in Nassau Conference 1?

Who cares? Radomski isn't there anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So is Massapequa tops in Nassau Conference 1?

Who cares? Radomski isn't there anymore.

Seems like any one of those top 4 teams could pull together the two wins they need to win Nassau 1 and then get crushed by Suffolk 1 in the LIC.

Seems like any one of those top 4 teams could pull together the two wins they need to win Nassau 1 and then get crushed by Suffolk 1 in the LIC.

If all you have to offer in Suffolk is Northport no one in Nassau is worried.

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

I 100% agree with this statement but who cares, you guys are arguing a point that will never change. Just try and enjoy the ride with your son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

I 100% agree with this statement but who cares, you guys are arguing a point that will never change. Just try and enjoy the ride with your son.

Excuses, excuses, sport like life, is never going to be fair. The negativity and excuses filter down to the kids. Teach them to deal and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What will be you're excuse when your child get in to college, 18 year old freshman playing against a 24 year old senior ? redshirt, medical redshirt, 5th year senior and so on. If you cant handle it now, you wont ever be able to handle it.

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

That's what JV is for, if your kid is too small to handle the older kids, he doesn't belong on the big boy roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

I 100% agree with this statement but who cares, you guys are arguing a point that will never change. Just try and enjoy the ride with your son.

Excuses, excuses, sport like life, is never going to be fair. The negativity and excuses filter down to the kids. Teach them to deal and move on.

A few questions
1- how bad is your program that you have so many 14 year olds on varsity
2- how bad are those 14 year olds that they are concerned about playing older kids (the good players we know want to play against the best and play with out fear.)
3- what league are you in that your bad program with so many weak Freshman and sophomores on varsity plays programs with 20 year old Seniors? Maybe get off this message board and go talk to your school board and coaches about playing a softer schedule.
4- Do you keep score at and count scrimmages as wins?
5- Are you really projecting how soft you and your son are on a message board. Problems not a problem for anyone other than the parents who want their kid to be better than they actually are.
6- The only real argument is the St Anthony one where they believe they would have beat St Johns if there were no holdbacks (doesnt make much sense though as Sophmores and Juniors were a large part of that Meanywhipping.)

Who won the GC Manhasset game Sat night ?

The issue is more about kids in the same grade that are 1 to 2 years older than the other kids for whatever reason. Then comes the Varsity issue where you have multiple grades competing for the same spots. It just results in some perpetual unfairness to some kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the GC Manhasset game Sat night ?

Great game! Sorry you missed it, OT thriller!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The issue is more about kids in the same grade that are 1 to 2 years older than the other kids for whatever reason. Then comes the Varsity issue where you have multiple grades competing for the same spots. It just results in some perpetual unfairness to some kids.

There is no issue, you're just making excuses and giving your kids the wring message that somehow it's unfair. Some freshman are good enough to play varsity, would you complain about that too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The issue is more about kids in the same grade that are 1 to 2 years older than the other kids for whatever reason. Then comes the Varsity issue where you have multiple grades competing for the same spots. It just results in some perpetual unfairness to some kids.

There is no issue, you're just making excuses and giving your kids the wring message that somehow it's unfair. Some freshman are good enough to play varsity, would you complain about that too?

Maybe you are giving your the kid the wrong message!?. Maybe the people in charge of the sport are giving the kids the wrong message!? Making it ok to game the system by holding back 1 and 2 years and now in some cases 3! Where does it stop!? Why don’t they stop the holdback nonsense and have the kids play on age during the youth years and developing years !!! That Would be the right message. Not gaming the system starting in Kindergarten! Ridiculous. Holding back specifically to get an edge in the sport should not be allowed. Not fair to Public school kids or people without the financial means for private schools to allow this obvious “elitist” advantage!!! And, the sport wants to try and be more inclusive??? Miserably failing at that and going the other direction. Pathetic! Who’s sending the wrong message to our kids? Buying advantages for your kids? Giving them extra time fur development? Hmmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The issue is more about kids in the same grade that are 1 to 2 years older than the other kids for whatever reason. Then comes the Varsity issue where you have multiple grades competing for the same spots. It just results in some perpetual unfairness to some kids.

There is no issue, you're just making excuses and giving your kids the wring message that somehow it's unfair. Some freshman are good enough to play varsity, would you complain about that too?

Your question just lacks basic logic. If the premise is that playing against kids who are younger than you is an advantage, then why are you asking if playing against older kids is a problem. Obviously there would be no complaint because the premise suggests the freshman is overcoming a disadvantage.

Bottom line is that if there was no advantage to holding kids back, the practice wouldn't be so prevalent. Sorry your son couldn't hack it against the kids his own age.

GC in OT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

I 100% agree with this statement but who cares, you guys are arguing a point that will never change. Just try and enjoy the ride with your son.

Excuses, excuses, sport like life, is never going to be fair. The negativity and excuses filter down to the kids. Teach them to deal and move on.

A few questions
1- how bad is your program that you have so many 14 year olds on varsity
2- how bad are those 14 year olds that they are concerned about playing older kids (the good players we know want to play against the best and play with out fear.)
3- what league are you in that your bad program with so many weak Freshman and sophomores on varsity plays programs with 20 year old Seniors? Maybe get off this message board and go talk to your school board and coaches about playing a softer schedule.
4- Do you keep score at and count scrimmages as wins?
5- Are you really projecting how soft you and your son are on a message board. Problems not a problem for anyone other than the parents who want their kid to be better than they actually are.
6- The only real argument is the St Anthony one where they believe they would have beat St Johns if there were no holdbacks (doesnt make much sense though as Sophmores and Juniors were a large part of that Meanywhipping.)

bet that took you 30 minutes to type.. and its nice to see you figure out the you're/your conundrum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An 18 year old freshman vs a 24 year old senior is NOT the same as a 19 year old HS senior who is 3 months from his 20th birthday playing against 14 & 15 year old true freshman and sophomores.

I 100% agree with this statement but who cares, you guys are arguing a point that will never change. Just try and enjoy the ride with your son.

Excuses, excuses, sport like life, is never going to be fair. The negativity and excuses filter down to the kids. Teach them to deal and move on.

A few questions
1- how bad is your program that you have so many 14 year olds on varsity
2- how bad are those 14 year olds that they are concerned about playing older kids (the good players we know want to play against the best and play with out fear.)
3- what league are you in that your bad program with so many weak Freshman and sophomores on varsity plays programs with 20 year old Seniors? Maybe get off this message board and go talk to your school board and coaches about playing a softer schedule.
4- Do you keep score at and count scrimmages as wins?
5- Are you really projecting how soft you and your son are on a message board. Problems not a problem for anyone other than the parents who want their kid to be better than they actually are.
6- The only real argument is the St Anthony one where they believe they would have beat St Johns if there were no holdbacks (doesnt make much sense though as Sophmores and Juniors were a large part of that Meanywhipping.)

bet that took you 30 minutes to type.. and its nice to see you figure out the you're/your conundrum.

Thanks! I went to prep school and lead the organization so dont pay attention on conference calls.....also holding my son back so he can go to Prep School and play against top talent. Basically lacrosse is getting him a better education than not having lacrosse would. He will play club on age but to be clear, he has never ever complained about going against holdbacks. He sees at as a challenge. The move to Prep School and holding him back moves him from a mid day 1 prospect to a top tier......but doesnt matter as Im happy if he stops playing lacrosse and leverages the amazing education he is getting. We dont complain in our house. We work and find our niche......thank you for not calling out my lack of apostrophes.
By the way, do you keep scores at scrimmages and consider it a win if your team has more goals?

Looks like the best team in Nassau is from Class D.

Manhasset loses to CSH. Can they right the ship vs. Chaminade or will it be three straight L's?

Manhasset loses to CSH. Can they right the ship vs. Chaminade or will it be three straight L's?

3 straight losses. no knock on them but I think Chaminade will win the game.

I think Manhasset will win. Expect a good game either way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the best team in Nassau is from Class D.

there is no class D in Nassau, there is a C/D. Is that what you meant?

Gutsy win by Mt Sinai over a really talented Smithtown west team. MS without its second most important player due to flu. Boys really stepped up. Proud of them. SWR next week

Agreed, tough schedule for Manhasset. Don't think they played to their standards against CSH after a war against garden city, they could have been banged up (no excuses) chami looked good against St Ants though, gonna be a great game, i think st ants will win, high powered offense vs mediocre defense.

all teams are banged up at this point in the season.

Manhasset looking at four straight losses-Darien, GC, CSH, Cham. Have they EVER had a four game losing streak?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

To each his own, a lot of great schools, personally would much rather see my kids at at Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins, Duke, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Virginia, Michigan, UNC, Penn State, Maryland etc... and if they are that level of athlete I would have them consider playing club at a great school. Maybe Florida, Arizona State, Boston College, Clemson, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, USC, Stanford etc....

Some very WOKE colleges in this second list. That's with admitting/assuming almost all colleges are left of center. The issue with UPenn swimming is enough to scratch that off the list.

But as you said, to each his own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

To each his own, a lot of great schools, personally would much rather see my kids at at Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins, Duke, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Virginia, Michigan, UNC, Penn State, Maryland etc... and if they are that level of athlete I would have them consider playing club at a great school. Maybe Florida, Arizona State, Boston College, Clemson, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, USC, Stanford etc....

Some very WOKE colleges in this second list. That's with admitting/assuming almost all colleges are left of center. The issue with UPenn swimming is enough to scratch that off the list.

But as you said, to each his own.

BTW I’m so glad that the UPenn swimmer is a UPenn swimmer! Nothing says bad publicity/mad parents/ extreme wokeism like the Ivy League. I’m glad they got their karma.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you’re looking to get into a great school with maybe a little bit of lacrosse help, like Wesleyan, Williams, Washington & Lee, Union, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Babson, etc. lacrosse is a great way to go… it’s about the next 40, not the next 4.

To each his own, a lot of great schools, personally would much rather see my kids at at Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, Hopkins, Duke, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Virginia, Michigan, UNC, Penn State, Maryland etc... and if they are that level of athlete I would have them consider playing club at a great school. Maybe Florida, Arizona State, Boston College, Clemson, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, USC, Stanford etc....

Some very WOKE colleges in this second list. That's with admitting/assuming almost all colleges are left of center. The issue with UPenn swimming is enough to scratch that off the list.

But as you said, to each his own.

BTW I’m so glad that the UPenn swimmer is a UPenn swimmer! Nothing says bad publicity/mad parents/ extreme wokeism like the Ivy League. I’m glad they got their karma.

I’m pretty far left and a man swimming with the women is just too far. I wonder how the boys would do on the draw with a D1 woman?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset looking at four straight losses-Darien, GC, CSH, Cham. Have they EVER had a four game losing streak?

I believe there was a win or two between the Darien and GC games. Somewhat of a disappointing season so far for Set, but they've been close in every loss, and all will be forgiven if they can beat Mt. Sinai (an uphill battle for sure, but certainly a possibility). They've had years where they won a bunch of big games but choked in the playoffs.

Darien just beat St. Anthony's 19-18 in one of the wildest high school games you'll ever see. St. Anthony's was up 18-14 with just over two minutes left and the game seemingly in hand. Darien then went nuclear, and buried the winner with one second left.

Checking on St Anthony's parents. Darien is public HS so don't believe they have holdbacks so what's todays excuse for yesterdays loss?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset looking at four straight losses-Darien, GC, CSH, Cham. Have they EVER had a four game losing streak?

I believe there was a win or two between the Darien and GC games. Somewhat of a disappointing season so far for Set, but they've been close in every loss, and all will be forgiven if they can beat Mt. Sinai (an uphill battle for sure, but certainly a possibility). They've had years where they won a bunch of big games but choked in the playoffs.

Darien just beat St. Anthony's 19-18 in one of the wildest high school games you'll ever see. St. Anthony's was up 18-14 with just over two minutes left and the game seemingly in hand. Darien then went nuclear, and buried the winner with one second left.

19 -18. Wow defensive coaching at its finest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Checking on St Anthony's parents. Darien is public HS so don't believe they have holdbacks so what's todays excuse for yesterdays loss?

No dog in this fight but Darien is a deep, deep pocket district. Parents could hold their kids back anytime they want because money is not an issue.

OH, " pretty far left" you must be the proctor of this site!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Checking on St Anthony's parents. Darien is public HS so don't believe they have holdbacks so what's todays excuse for yesterdays loss?

No dog in this fight but Darien is a deep, deep pocket district. Parents could hold their kids back anytime they want because money is not an issue.

Both teams have hold backs, its coaching St A's needs help..

Posted in another forum:

Which is more fun for your kid (or you), Club or High School lacrosse?

Most favored high school citing factors such as:

-Games meaning more to them especially wins and losses. They didn't care as much about W-L's in club
-More team camaraderie with high school. These are kids they (obviously) go to school with and know better. Club sometimes feels like hired mercenaries
-If you are the better player, then you play more whereas with Club, since everyone is (presumably) paying the same, playing time is split more evenly
-Spring lacrosse after a barren Winter season feels more refreshing where summer club can be a slog sometimes
-High school coaches care more than club coaches about the kids?
-Cheaper than club (unless you pay for private school)
-Less traveling
-Playing against a team of holdbacks may be less prevalent in high school (except Prep schools)
-More emotional investment in the town you live in or (the school you are paying for for Prep). True rivalries seem to mean more in high school and thus,there is more emotional investment

Those who favored Club cited factors such as:

-the level of competition is better and teammates are usually better, at least at the higher levels of Club lacrosse
-traveling around the country with your kid is a (sometimes) rewarding experience
-some like the national exposure of some of the high level Club lacrosse
-even playing time as some players may get buried on a high school bench

Recruiting-wise, it was a wash but I feel that High School recruiting is better than Club recruiting. I have heard stories of Club making a million promises but never delivering when it comes to recruiting, unless you are the superstar of the club. I have been told (but could be mistaken) is that colleges value the high school coach opinion much more than the club coach.

There seems to be a temporal nature to it. Youth club was much more rewarding than youth town lacrosse but as the kids get older, high school becomes more important to kids. I would even venture to say that club has much less meaning to 22's, 23's and maybe 24's.

It also seemed that this logic does not apply to the outliers such as the top national high school teams in the country or the bottom lower clubs. In addition, most of this logic may not apply to the superstars (top 0.5% of players in the country).

Just curious to everyone's thoughts. There truly are no right answers as it is only an opinion that can be formed wholly dependent on your own experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Checking on St Anthony's parents. Darien is public HS so don't believe they have holdbacks so what's todays excuse for yesterdays loss?

Connecticut has a 1/1 cutoff date for schools and don't pretend that they don't hold back in Darien and New Canaan and other "wealthy" towns up there.

When our 2022 was a freshman, his team played the Darien freshman team. One of the Darien moms was complaining that her son, Winston the Third, had to run laps after practice because he was five minutes late one day when he had to park in the back lot - there were only 100 spots in the front parking lot and it was all full when he got there. I asked her how that could be and she said "we have three teams, so not all of the freshmen can park in the front lot." Then she said "oh, wait, we can drive at 16 up here, not like you New Yorkers, where you have to wait until 17." I told her that most of my son's team was 15 years old and she said "Oh, we have one or two TRUE freshmen on this team who can't drive yet."

And losses happen. This one had nothing to do with holdbacks. One thing that's obvious this year is that it's all about offense with most of these teams. Coaches seem to expect to simply put up 12-15 (or more) and outscore their opponents and rarely make any adjustment on defense or care about how poorly they are doing on that end of the field.

I sure would like to see a best of LI tournament in June where all the semifinal teams from the four Suffolk conferences and four Nassau conferences and the two Catholic AAA teams play each other to see who really is the best. If St. Anthony's really is 3-5 goals better than everyone else, so be it. Just make sure you get decent officials (who can actually run the length of the field and know the rules) to call all of the games - maybe they should come from college or the PLL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Checking on St Anthony's parents. Darien is public HS so don't believe they have holdbacks so what's todays excuse for yesterdays loss?

Connecticut has a 1/1 cutoff date for schools and don't pretend that they don't hold back in Darien and New Canaan and other "wealthy" towns up there.

When our 2022 was a freshman, his team played the Darien freshman team. One of the Darien moms was complaining that her son, Winston the Third, had to run laps after practice because he was five minutes late one day when he had to park in the back lot - there were only 100 spots in the front parking lot and it was all full when he got there. I asked her how that could be and she said "we have three teams, so not all of the freshmen can park in the front lot." Then she said "oh, wait, we can drive at 16 up here, not like you New Yorkers, where you have to wait until 17." I told her that most of my son's team was 15 years old and she said "Oh, we have one or two TRUE freshmen on this team who can't drive yet."

And losses happen. This one had nothing to do with holdbacks. One thing that's obvious this year is that it's all about offense with most of these teams. Coaches seem to expect to simply put up 12-15 (or more) and outscore their opponents and rarely make any adjustment on defense or care about how poorly they are doing on that end of the field.

I sure would like to see a best of LI tournament in June where all the semifinal teams from the four Suffolk conferences and four Nassau conferences and the two Catholic AAA teams play each other to see who really is the best. If St. Anthony's really is 3-5 goals better than everyone else, so be it. Just make sure you get decent officials (who can actually run the length of the field and know the rules) to call all of the games - maybe they should come from college or the PLL.

I'll "Things that never happened" for a $1,000 Alex.

I sure would like to see a best of LI tournament in June where all the semifinal teams from the four Suffolk conferences and four Nassau conferences and the two Catholic AAA teams play each other to see who really is the best. If St. Anthony's really is 3-5 goals better than everyone else, so be it. Just make sure you get decent officials (who can actually run the length of the field and know the rules) to call all of the games - maybe they should come from college or the PLL.

This would be pretty cool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset looking at four straight losses-Darien, GC, CSH, Cham. Have they EVER had a four game losing streak?

I believe there was a win or two between the Darien and GC games. Somewhat of a disappointing season so far for Set, but they've been close in every loss, and all will be forgiven if they can beat Mt. Sinai (an uphill battle for sure, but certainly a possibility). They've had years where they won a bunch of big games but choked in the playoffs.

Darien just beat St. Anthony's 19-18 in one of the wildest high school games you'll ever see. St. Anthony's was up 18-14 with just over two minutes left and the game seemingly in hand. Darien then went nuclear, and buried the winner with one second left.

19 -18. Wow defensive coaching at its finest.

I just watched the last 3 minutes of that game. St. A's was completely lost defensively on all of it. The 15th goal there was a slide to double WAY out high and no recovery/rotation.

St. A's had a chance to close it out and they lost the ball to a double team with Darien pulling the goalie. That was way too easily dislodged and they had a decent angle to shoot on an open net. I don't like how St. A's played that possession.

They could have sent a pole to play behind while Darien was killing clock.

None of this takes away from a heck of a comeback from Darien. They earned it.

Did St. Anthony's just lose to Yorktown as well? St. A's may have been the best team on LI on paper entering the season but not at the end of it. Yorktown is a class B public, correct. They lost to CSH amongst others, correct? Was there a covid outbreak at St. A's or have they just backpeddled?

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did St. Anthony's just lose to Yorktown as well? St. A's may have been the best team on LI on paper entering the season but not at the end of it. Yorktown is a class B public, correct. They lost to CSH amongst others, correct? Was there a covid outbreak at St. A's or have they just backpeddled?

Yorktown did NOT play St. Anthony's.

THey Played Darien, CSH, Chaminade all in a row.

If false, my apologies to the Friar Nation.

In the print version of Newsday today (Tuesday) they showed Yorktown beating St. A's 19-18.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Thanks Dad

holdbacks all over St A’s, so let’s
put that to rest
You all went to St A’s for the lax NOT the education nor the Catholic teachings (as there are Jewish boys on the team)
2 Losses so not best team in country
wasted tuition

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Really? That’s funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Ok dad. Relax. He will get his turn one day. Also, try and remember that lacrosse is a team sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

I'll bet none of the coaches want to deal with the kid because of his parents. You're the problem not the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Ok dad. Relax. He will get his turn one day. Also, try and remember that lacrosse is a team sport.

He is transferring. Leaving in a huff because he didn’t play on Varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Ok dad. Relax. He will get his turn one day. Also, try and remember that lacrosse is a team sport.

He is transferring. Leaving in a huff because he didn’t play on Varsity.

He's going back to public and playing with 9 other kids on JV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Thanks Dad

A. LOL to that response
B. I have no skin in this argument but there is ZERO chance that is remotely true even at that school. If you really had someone THAT good, he'd be playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Ok dad. Relax. He will get his turn one day. Also, try and remember that lacrosse is a team sport.

He is transferring. Leaving in a huff because he didn’t play on Varsity.

Question is, did he deserve to play on Varsity? And, did they just not choose him to play because of something other than his skills? Then, that’s not fair. Even if he has obnoxious parents as other poster suggesting? (I don’t even know who kid is) Is it fair to the kid to be punished for
the parents?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Ok dad. Relax. He will get his turn one day. Also, try and remember that lacrosse is a team sport.

He is transferring. Leaving in a huff because he didn’t play on Varsity.

Question is, did he deserve to play on Varsity? And, did they just not choose him to play because of something other than his skills? Then, that’s not fair. Even if he has obnoxious parents as other poster suggesting? (I don’t even know who kid is) Is it fair to the kid to be punished for
the parents?

Just because his club coach says he's a 5-star, doesn't mean he is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

HAHA thanks Mom or Dad (crazy).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Thanks Dad

A. LOL to that response
B. I have no skin in this argument but there is ZERO chance that is remotely true even at that school. If you really had someone THAT good, he'd be playing.

Ask around, you’ll find that there is 100% a very good LSM on SA JV. Will he be a 5 star? That’s yet to be seen, but he is VERY talented, and is more than good enough to be a difference maker at the varsity level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Thanks Dad

A. LOL to that response
B. I have no skin in this argument but there is ZERO chance that is remotely true even at that school. If you really had someone THAT good, he'd be playing.

Ask around, you’ll find that there is 100% a very good LSM on SA JV. Will he be a 5 star? That’s yet to be seen, but he is VERY talented, and is more than good enough to be a difference maker at the varsity level.

Remind me again why we care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Thanks Dad

A. LOL to that response
B. I have no skin in this argument but there is ZERO chance that is remotely true even at that school. If you really had someone THAT good, he'd be playing.

Ask around, you’ll find that there is 100% a very good LSM on SA JV. Will he be a 5 star? That’s yet to be seen, but he is VERY talented, and is more than good enough to be a difference maker at the varsity level.

Remind me again why we care?

Says the guy sitting on a high school lacrosse message board, shouldn’t need a reminder as to why you care. This page didn’t just pop up in your internet explorer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sure would like to see a best of LI tournament in June where all the semifinal teams from the four Suffolk conferences and four Nassau conferences and the two Catholic AAA teams play each other to see who really is the best. If St. Anthony's really is 3-5 goals better than everyone else, so be it. Just make sure you get decent officials (who can actually run the length of the field and know the rules) to call all of the games - maybe they should come from college or the PLL.

This would be pretty cool

Definitely not easy being a referee but there needs to be a head ref who can make a final decision. 8-12 minute 'ref conferences' on the field and calls made by refs furthest from the action is inexcusable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

I'll bet none of the coaches want to deal with the kid because of his parents. You're the problem not the coaches.

This is 100% correct......take it to heart parents.

Move the playoffs to Homewood. AA county teams should have to travel to Baltimore. Best MIAA teams should get home field advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

Hahaha. My son is a 8.78-star in 8th grade and would make a difference on any team that he plays for

But the second part may be correct in that it could be on the coaches...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

I'll bet none of the coaches want to deal with the kid because of his parents. You're the problem not the coaches.

This is 100% correct. Very talented player. Not sure he changes those losses ..take it to heart parents.

So impressed with how quickly St A's comes with the excuses....I asked around, he is very good. We'll see if he impacts LV next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

I'll bet none of the coaches want to deal with the kid because of his parents. You're the problem not the coaches.

This is 100% correct. Very talented player. Not sure he changes those losses ..take it to heart parents.

So impressed with how quickly St A's comes with the excuses....I asked around, he is very good. We'll see if he impacts LV next year.

No excuses, A crazy parent wants to lash out at a coaching staff for not pulling up there son. I wonder why?

Nor a parent. Have just watched him play over the years. Great kid. Great family. Unbelievably competitive. Was mvp of 24s junior invitational at stonybrook last summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nor a parent. Have just watched him play over the years. Great kid. Great family. Unbelievably competitive. Was mvp of 24s junior invitational at stonybrook last summer.

No idea who this kid is, but please. That has as much to do with which 2024 team he plays on as anything else.

No not a team event. Only the elite kids get invited. Then put on teams. For an LSM to win MVP is unusual.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A’s has a five star LSM on JV who is so good he would have made the difference in both of those losses. Those losses are on the coaches.

I'll bet none of the coaches want to deal with the kid because of his parents. You're the problem not the coaches.

This is 100% correct. Very talented player. Not sure he changes those losses ..take it to heart parents.

So impressed with how quickly St A's comes with the excuses....I asked around, he is very good. We'll see if he impacts LV next year.

No excuses, A crazy parent wants to lash out at a coaching staff for not pulling up there son. I wonder why?

Why would you even want your kid pulled up? He'll get more time and reps on JV, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing JV at Chaminade and St. Anthony's. There's no stigma.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sure would like to see a best of LI tournament in June where all the semifinal teams from the four Suffolk conferences and four Nassau conferences and the two Catholic AAA teams play each other to see who really is the best. If St. Anthony's really is 3-5 goals better than everyone else, so be it. Just make sure you get decent officials (who can actually run the length of the field and know the rules) to call all of the games - maybe they should come from college or the PLL.

This would be pretty cool

Long Island high school games generally have better refereeing than college ones do at any level. I can't speak to the PLL.

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

So, are you saying Coaches knew he was leaving for a prep school anyways? So, Why give a spot on Varsity to someone leaving??

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

So, are you saying Coaches knew he was leaving for a prep school anyways? So, Why give a spot on Varsity to someone leaving??

WHO CARES

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Suffolk county has the same problem.

In Section 1, typically over half of your games are selected by the HC/school. So for the most part, an elite team can build a 15 game schedule with only a couple of cupcakes. Teams typically play Jersey or Ct or even LI teams. I think it helps to not be landlocked on the island. But there are enough top teams out there that a great scheduled can be crafted - so long as its not loaded up on teams you are forced to play. That is the key.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Why would any coach want to burn his team out all season and then try to win a NYS championship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Why would any coach want to burn his team out all season and then try to win a NYS championship?

Gotta be a better system. My sons conference games have been an absolute joke. Margin of victory in 6 conference games to date has been +13 goals.
Has to be a way to blend enrollment size & skill level.
Girls lacrosse does it....... Why not boys?

BURN kids out take a look at the West Islip coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Why would any coach want to burn his team out all season and then try to win a NYS championship?

Gotta be a better system. My sons conference games have been an absolute joke. Margin of victory in 6 conference games to date has been +13 goals.
Has to be a way to blend enrollment size & skill level.
Girls lacrosse does it....... Why not boys?

Absolutely agree. Girls have 5 divisions aligned by ability, regardless of school size, than they go to playoffs by group size, those playing in top divisions get highest seeds. Boys regular season in conference is meaningless and not challenging for the middle tier schools.

He didn’t win mvp at juniors. There was none at the 24 juniors open level. Maybe for a single game but not for the event. Good but overly aggressive can hurt him especially in a big game. Why we talking about this. SA and Cham has situations like this often.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

So, are you saying Coaches knew he was leaving for a prep school anyways? So, Why give a spot on Varsity to someone leaving??

WHO CARES

I don’t but social services should and as so often happens it won’t work out for those trying to game the system. What world do the parents live in where they tell their 11th grade kid, we’re putting you back in 9th grade? That’s not reality. Your setting your kid up to fail.

Does anyone know how Smithtown West boys did today?

Lost to West Islip

Wow surprising. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In Section 1, typically over half of your games are selected by the HC/school. So for the most part, an elite team can build a 15 game schedule with only a couple of cupcakes. Teams typically play Jersey or Ct or even LI teams. I think it helps to not be landlocked on the island. But there are enough top teams out there that a great scheduled can be crafted - so long as its not loaded up on teams you are forced to play. That is the key.

Sec XI allows 2 non conference games.. So we get beat up by the top schools every year... running clock in a few games.. group by ability..

As the season comes to an end for most of our boys, senior parents, hope you enjoyed the ride. Junior parents.. strap in.. The last ride starts now.. Underclass, enjoy these last few years.. for some, it will be their last until grandkids, it goes by too fast and many of us don't realize it until it is over..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Why would any coach want to burn his team out all season and then try to win a NYS championship?

Gotta be a better system. My sons conference games have been an absolute joke. Margin of victory in 6 conference games to date has been +13 goals.
Has to be a way to blend enrollment size & skill level.
Girls lacrosse does it....... Why not boys?

Trying to remember the last time a saw a girls' game with contact.......nope never saw one. The boys play a contact sport, just because your son's team got blown out by six goals a game is not indicative of good teams having to bury themselves in a super competitive game every week. Colleges don't do it either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm sure this question has been asked but why isn't there a power conference in Nassau, or something like that. My sons team has played 4 good games out of 12, its unwatchable. Something has to change, any suggestions...

Why would any coach want to burn his team out all season and then try to win a NYS championship?

Gotta be a better system. My sons conference games have been an absolute joke. Margin of victory in 6 conference games to date has been +13 goals.
Has to be a way to blend enrollment size & skill level.
Girls lacrosse does it....... Why not boys?

Absolutely agree. Girls have 5 divisions aligned by ability, regardless of school size, than they go to playoffs by group size, those playing in top divisions get highest seeds. Boys regular season in conference is meaningless and not challenging for the middle tier schools.

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

So, are you saying Coaches knew he was leaving for a prep school anyways? So, Why give a spot on Varsity to someone leaving??

WHO CARES

I don’t but social services should and as so often happens it won’t work out for those trying to game the system. What world do the parents live in where they tell their 11th grade kid, we’re putting you back in 9th grade? That’s not reality. Your setting your kid up to fail.

Hmmmm, never an issue in football or basketball. Let's be clear, the vast majority of those kids succeed, they don't fail. Just look at the rosters for previous years and see where they are now. Really simple. Very few failures. Your theory is incorrect.

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.[/quote]

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.[/quote]

The coaches would disagree dad. Here's a thought, if you enjoy the girls' game so much, tell your son to play with the ladies. Problem solved, boys coach gets rid of the headache of you, and you get to watch competitive girls lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.

The coaches would disagree dad. Here's a thought, if you enjoy the girls' game so much, tell your son to play with the ladies. Problem solved, boys coach gets rid of the headache of you, and you get to watch competitive girls lacrosse.[/quote]

Ok coach. Question for you. What is productive about a team beating someone 23-1 or 19-0 or 22-1? Nothing is productive in those games for either team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.

The coaches would disagree dad. Here's a thought, if you enjoy the girls' game so much, tell your son to play with the ladies. Problem solved, boys coach gets rid of the headache of you, and you get to watch competitive girls lacrosse.

Ok coach. Question for you. What is productive about a team beating someone 23-1 or 19-0 or 22-1? Nothing is productive in those games for either team.[/quote]

Schedule doesn’t need to be full of the most competitive games….but should be able to build a schedule of appropriate competition throughout the season.
You will want games where you can test your top lines and give role players bigger roles….but those laugher games do no one any good

First off, I have no skin in the game my son's team is not affected, but...can anyone explain the formula Section XI uses for standings? How does a 5-9 team make playoffs over an 8 - 6 team? Is strength of schedule/wins/goals weighted that heavily? Not trying to knock any team but it just doesn't seem to make sense. You play the schedule you're given.

Each team is preseason ranked ( Coaches are asked where they think they stand and then it is voted on by each coach).
The first ranked team plays a much harder schedule than the 12th. The 12th plays a harder schedule than the 20th ranked team. The 5-8 team you speak of was pre season ranked 6th. The 8-6 team was pre season ranked 17th. The 5-8 team also beat the 8-6 team when they played this year 12-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off, I have no skin in the game my son's team is not affected, but...can anyone explain the formula Section XI uses for standings? How does a 5-9 team make playoffs over an 8 - 6 team? Is strength of schedule/wins/goals weighted that heavily? Not trying to knock any team but it just doesn't seem to make sense. You play the schedule you're given.

Its actually a great system. It is power rankings.

Simply you either gain or lose points for a win or loss based on the opponents win percentage.

If you beat a team that is 9-1 (90% win percentage) you would get 9 points.
If you lose to a team that is 9-1 (90 % win percentage) you would only lose 1 point.

So you don't get rewarded as much for beating bad teams.

Think its a close to perfect system. It allows the top teams to player tougher competition without being punished. It allows the bottom teams to win the games they are supposed to and then pick off 1-2 better teams to make playoffs.

Its all based on strength of schedule and power points. Goals mean nothing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.

The coaches would disagree dad. Here's a thought, if you enjoy the girls' game so much, tell your son to play with the ladies. Problem solved, boys coach gets rid of the headache of you, and you get to watch competitive girls lacrosse.

Ok coach. Question for you. What is productive about a team beating someone 23-1 or 19-0 or 22-1? Nothing is productive in those games for either team.

Schedule doesn’t need to be full of the most competitive games….but should be able to build a schedule of appropriate competition throughout the season.
You will want games where you can test your top lines and give role players bigger roles….but those laugher games do no one any good[/quote]

Look at GC schedule, CSH schedule, Farmingdale schedule. They play all the non conference games they need. If you’re school can’t field a competitive team, drop the sport. If you’re enamored with the girls game, watch the girls. Simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off, I have no skin in the game my son's team is not affected, but...can anyone explain the formula Section XI uses for standings? How does a 5-9 team make playoffs over an 8 - 6 team? Is strength of schedule/wins/goals weighted that heavily? Not trying to knock any team but it just doesn't seem to make sense. You play the schedule you're given.

It is based on what class you are in, A, B, C or D which is determined by enrollment, so in section 11 division 2 there are B, C and D teams. The standings aren’t broken up by class, so it is misleading

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He is a 2023 that will be going into the class of 2025. Playing JV because he is leaving for prep school next year

So, are you saying Coaches knew he was leaving for a prep school anyways? So, Why give a spot on Varsity to someone leaving??

WHO CARES

I don’t but social services should and as so often happens it won’t work out for those trying to game the system. What world do the parents live in where they tell their 11th grade kid, we’re putting you back in 9th grade? That’s not reality. Your setting your kid up to fail.

Hmmmm, never an issue in football or basketball. Let's be clear, the vast majority of those kids succeed, they don't fail. Just look at the rosters for previous years and see where they are now. Really simple. Very few failures. Your theory is incorrect.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

I’m going to disagree. Although kids may succeed by holding back 1-3 years; and this seems to be the normal pathway for many at this point there are plenty of failures; kids who don’t end up at top colleges and kids who end up quitting lacrosse completely so I would venture to guess that “very few failures” is inaccurate

As an anecdote, my kids first taste of this way back when was when he went to his first Under Armour tryout. He was in 8th grade and it was the 8-9th grade team and some kids at the tryout had driven themselves there. Yes those kids did way better than my kid but I am wondering what the definition of success is. Success at lacrosse or success in life because being a holdback only gets you so far and one wonders what life lessons you’ve learned. Maybe Elon Musk was a triple holdback.

Out of curiousity, you mention football and basketball mostly reclassing down 2 grades. I didn’t think that was all that common for those two sports. Anyone know how prevalent it actually is for the 3 sports? Who does it the most?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First off, I have no skin in the game my son's team is not affected, but...can anyone explain the formula Section XI uses for standings? How does a 5-9 team make playoffs over an 8 - 6 team? Is strength of schedule/wins/goals weighted that heavily? Not trying to knock any team but it just doesn't seem to make sense. You play the schedule you're given.

Its actually a great system. It is power rankings.

Simply you either gain or lose points for a win or loss based on the opponents win percentage.

If you beat a team that is 9-1 (90% win percentage) you would get 9 points.
If you lose to a team that is 9-1 (90 % win percentage) you would only lose 1 point.

So you don't get rewarded as much for beating bad teams.

Think its a close to perfect system. It allows the top teams to player tougher competition without being punished. It allows the bottom teams to win the games they are supposed to and then pick off 1-2 better teams to make playoffs.

Thanks, I think I understand it now. One question are points determined by the record of the team you played at the time you play them or are adjustments made at the end of the season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Manhasset will win. Expect a good game either way.

That was a beat down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it's not productive to have to play a top team week in and week out. Alabama football plays a ridiculous schedule when they don't have an SEC opponent lined up. Why don't they play Oklahoma? USC? or any other good team from outside the SEC? Because you can't sustain that level every week. Stop trying to entertain yourselves, see it as a coach, not a fan.

It's less productive to play in a conference that only fields 4 or 5 competitive teams out of 15. The majority of games the better players are either done by halftime or playing other positions. Bad job all around in Nassau. Follow the girls conference model and figure it out.

The coaches would disagree dad. Here's a thought, if you enjoy the girls' game so much, tell your son to play with the ladies. Problem solved, boys coach gets rid of the headache of you, and you get to watch competitive girls lacrosse.

Ok coach. Question for you. What is productive about a team beating someone 23-1 or 19-0 or 22-1? Nothing is productive in those games for either team.

Schedule doesn’t need to be full of the most competitive games….but should be able to build a schedule of appropriate competition throughout the season.
You will want games where you can test your top lines and give role players bigger roles….but those laugher games do no one any good

Look at GC schedule, CSH schedule, Farmingdale schedule. They play all the non conference games they need. If you’re school can’t field a competitive team, drop the sport. If you’re enamored with the girls game, watch the girls. Simple.[/quote]

To the faux macho keyboard tough guy, that wasn’t the point.
I’m saying there is no reason my sons team should be playing conference games where they are WINNING by 20 goals.

Go back to middle school and work on your reading comprehension

Adjustments are made as season progresses

Lacrosse Playoffs are here, who do you like?

Suffolk
A - Northport
B- Smithtown West
C - Mt. Sinai
D - Port Jeff

Nassau
A- Massapequa
B- GC
C-Manhasset
D-CHS

LIC
A-Northport by 5
B- GC by 4
C- Mt. Sinai by 6
D- CHS by 12

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

They’re always looking for more refs…since you can most certainly do a better job, have at it hoss

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

Getting off topic and the complaint fest BOTC has become.
Congratulations to Nassau Community Men's Lacrosse for winning the 23rd national Championship in program history this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

Officials across all sports are experiencing critically low numbers. Why would anyone want to withstand the abuse and low pay just for the "love of the game". All you nut jobs out there who think they know it all, please go get certified and actually give something back to your sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

You are awful for saying this. Get out of your trailer home and go officiate if you're so knowledgeable.

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

I'm all for supporting officials. I thank each and every one, if I see them after the game. BUT, it is not a volunteer position. They get paid. Maybe it is or isn't enough for the BS they put up with, but the market will determine that on its own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Players or parents/fans????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

I'm all for supporting officials. I thank each and every one, if I see them after the game. BUT, it is not a volunteer position. They get paid. Maybe it is or isn't enough for the BS they put up with, but the market will determine that on its own.

A) No you don't thank them, you're lying. B) if they have to be paid market value, you better get ready to open that wallet and pay for sports, because the school taxes aren't going to cover it. C) If you've never done it, shhhhhhhh. It is a nightmare, because of people like you.

LOL. I have seen Chaminade(ie Garden City) kids cursing at parents before. I remember leaving the field thinking the same thing you are saying about those kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

They cross names off their list for parents behavior on the side line as well.

Players. Disgrace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Players or parents/fans????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

Exactly the point. Win with class. Lose with class. Sports is a life lesson, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

Exactly the point. Win with class. Lose with class. Sports is a life lesson, right?

This has been going on for years with St. Anthony’s in both girl and boys games, on the field, in the stands. What’s sad is it’s a small group that paint a really bad picture.

Fact is college coaches DO see it and for most of them, they will count it against you.
Winning in OT makes it a very competitive game.
Do you really think the college coach will care which team you were on? They are watching you, not the team that won. Good luck in life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS officiating this year has been awful. Some of these guys are so old we hav to warn the trainer that they might not make it. Can't imagine this ios the best we can do

How about thank the official for the job he is doing rather than criticizing the way he’s doing it…..at least he’s out there and not on an anonymous message board

Ha. Agreed. The best thing I ever heard an official tell a set of parents who were riding him the whole game was “We are always looking for volunteers…”. That shut them up.

I'm all for supporting officials. I thank each and every one, if I see them after the game. BUT, it is not a volunteer position. They get paid. Maybe it is or isn't enough for the BS they put up with, but the market will determine that on its own.

I am sure the ref didn't mean volunteer as in "do it for free". He probably meant "volunteer": to get paid way below market value for a job where you get continually abused. Officials need a break from sideline warriors who don't contribute or grow the game and just criticize.

I have never seen anything like that. 5 continous minutes of complete cursing, middle fingers etc. Pictures are starting to circulate. I would be nervous if I was some of these 23's

Catholic schools used to be notorious for the discipline they demanded and the impending consequences and punishment they levied if not adhered to. Those days are long gone provided touchdowns, baskets or goals are produced.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Catholic schools used to be notorious for the discipline they demanded and the impending consequences and punishment they levied if not adhered to. Those days are long gone provided touchdowns, baskets or goals are produced.

It’s not all of them that tolerate what we all saw. Only one has sold out this badly and it’s nothing new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Catholic schools used to be notorious for the discipline they demanded and the impending consequences and punishment they levied if not adhered to. Those days are long gone provided touchdowns, baskets or goals are produced.

It’s not all of them that tolerate what we all saw. Only one has sold out this badly and it’s nothing new.

Athletic Directors of these schools need to hold the coaches accountable for teams bad behavior and coach needs to hold players accountable. The school needs to reprimand spectators and parents through their school resources and hold them accountable. Bad sportsmanship win or lose should not be accepted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have never seen anything like that. 5 continous minutes of complete cursing, middle fingers etc. Pictures are starting to circulate. I would be nervous if I was some of these 23's

Oh stop. Keep wearing your red flyer jacket in the summer.

Except for one starting middie, most of the St Anthony kids who were putting on this show never stepped on the field or entered the game…. Embarrassing for most of the team that played hard and won with class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for one starting middie, most of the St Anthony kids who were putting on this show never stepped on the field or entered the game…. Embarrassing for most of the team that played hard and won with class.

SA needs to demand more from that teams players and coaches when it comes to moral character and class! They are representing the school and need to be respectful of that in competition. Be classy, win or lose. Passion can be classy and not trashy.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

I'm not saying college coaches don't care however if the kid is legit they will turn a blind eye. No skin in this game my kid is at a public HS but there is a kid on St A's that has been like this since third grade. I've seen him kicked out of at least 2 games because of his mouth and 8-10 years later hes still running it and he is going somewhere pretty darn good hence college coaches will put up with it.

Was at the game, no kid on either team. But post game show was like none I have ever seen. And the one starter (middie) who is committed def did not help himself out with what he was doing. And yes their are many pictures.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the game, no kid on either team. But post game show was like none I have ever seen. And the one starter (middie) who is committed def did not help himself out with what he was doing. And yes their are many pictures.

No kid but at the game? Seems really odd to me, but just an FYI, any kid starting at SA, he'll be fine, that kid, he's good to go. Find a new hobby.

How is that odd to go to a game to see 2 of the best high school teams in the country play? Is it odd to have played lacrosse and have young kids who play who wanted to go and watch?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Just saw the video of the end of game antics. It’s wasn’t the whole St A’s team but a small group should be ashamed of themselves. Yelling the F word and grabbing your crotch is just white reach behavior
There is no excuse for this behavior

Don't forget the one particular word being yelled at Chaminade moms.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the game, no kid on either team. But post game show was like none I have ever seen. And the one starter (middie) who is committed def did not help himself out with what he was doing. And yes their are many pictures.

No kid but at the game? Seems really odd to me, but just an FYI, any kid starting at SA, he'll be fine, that kid, he's good to go. Find a new hobby.

“Ability will enable a man to get to the top, but character will keep him from falling”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Just saw the video of the end of game antics. It’s wasn’t the whole St A’s team but a small group should be ashamed of themselves. Yelling the F word and grabbing your crotch is just white reach behavior
There is no excuse for this behavior

All JV games were different. Hopefully the classless 2022 and 2023 grades end it the sad behavior streak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Just saw the video of the end of game antics. It’s wasn’t the whole St A’s team but a small group should be ashamed of themselves. Yelling the F word and grabbing your crotch is just white reach behavior
There is no excuse for this behavior

All JV games were different. Hopefully the classless 2022 and 2023 grades end it the sad behavior streak.

Different because SA lost 3 times!
Three great games but they lost.

Who's buying the new red flyer jackets?

What does that even mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Just saw the video of the end of game antics. It’s wasn’t the whole St A’s team but a small group should be ashamed of themselves. Yelling the F word and grabbing your crotch is just white reach behavior
There is no excuse for this behavior

Where is this video? I saw end of game and the handshake/awards took 15 minutes or so to hand out. Who is still around from Chaminade side at that point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to St. Anthonys after another great game and win versus Chaminade. Two great teams with unreal talent on the field. It could have gone down as one of the classics of this intense rivalry. Unfortunately, again, it was ruined by St.Anthonys post game antics. Language used that I would not repeat, solely screamed at Chaminade parents. This group has been doing this for 4 years now, it is truly sad. The lack of discipline that the coaching staff has showed over the years is gross, and has marred this great program. Set your players and kids up to be great examples of winning or losing with class...if possible. A sad example of where youth sports has been heading for the past 10 years. Maybe the school actually gets involved with this one. Maybe even the parents. I doubt it.

Try Winning its a great way to shut them up.

I am certain the stands were filled with a ton of college coaches crossing names off their lists. Sometimes winning really isn’t everything, boys. But your parents should have taught you that.

You would be wrong, that never happened

Just saw the video of the end of game antics. It’s wasn’t the whole St A’s team but a small group should be ashamed of themselves. Yelling the F word and grabbing your crotch is just white reach behavior
There is no excuse for this behavior

Where is this video? I saw end of game and the handshake/awards took 15 minutes or so to hand out. Who is still around from Chaminade side at that point

Video and pictures have been posted on numerous instagram and other social media The incident happened immediately following the game. It was not the whole team just a few St. A’s players. The player who seemed to be the ring leader. Issued an apology. I know he texted many of the Chaminade parents. Specifically the parents of his fellow Exprees 23 team he will be facing disciplinary action from his coaches and school.
Hopefully the young man learned a valuable lesson in all this. Time to move on.

If he did do that and followed up with apologies for his behavior, good for him! Exactly what should happen. It was Just young teens getting caught up in the moment and hopefully, they have now learned a valuable lesson on how to win with class!

We ALL did/said notIntelligent things as teenagers and hopefully grew from it. I’m going to cut the teens a little slack, and I’m hoping their embarrassment to their family, school and now themselves will serve a wake up call on their behavior. But, come on adults, most of us, as teens did stuff we are not proud of. Just no cameras or internet to put it out there.

Any scores from boys varsity Suffolk yesterday other than wm that is posted on sec 11

Lots and lots of sour grapes in here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If he did do that and followed up with apologies for his behavior, good for him! Exactly what should happen. It was Just young teens getting caught up in the moment and hopefully, they have now learned a valuable lesson on how to win with class!

We ALL did/said notIntelligent things as teenagers and hopefully grew from it. I’m going to cut the teens a little slack, and I’m hoping their embarrassment to their family, school and now themselves will serve a wake up call on their behavior. But, come on adults, most of us, as teens did stuff we are not proud of. Just no cameras or internet to put it out there.

If he apologized, good for him. Honestly, hard to believe that a junior is texting other players parents. How does he have their phone numbers?

I also agree, teenagers are knuckleheads. The blame should be on his coaching staff. They know their players and should have nipped it in the bud. Other than that, amazing game to watch live and props to refs who did a good job letting the game play out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If he did do that and followed up with apologies for his behavior, good for him! Exactly what should happen. It was Just young teens getting caught up in the moment and hopefully, they have now learned a valuable lesson on how to win with class!

We ALL did/said notIntelligent things as teenagers and hopefully grew from it. I’m going to cut the teens a little slack, and I’m hoping their embarrassment to their family, school and now themselves will serve a wake up call on their behavior. But, come on adults, most of us, as teens did stuff we are not proud of. Just no cameras or internet to put it out there.

If he apologized, good for him. Honestly, hard to believe that a junior is texting other players parents. How does he have their phone numbers?

I also agree, teenagers are knuckleheads. The blame should be on his coaching staff. They know their players and should have nipped it in the bud. Other than that, amazing game to watch live and props to refs who did a good job letting the game play out.

Except for the badly jumped faceoff “do over”. That’s not a good job.

If he apologized, good for him. Honestly, hard to believe that a junior is texting other players parents. How does he have their phone numbers?

Half the team is Express 2023 they have been playing together since third grade pretty sure the kid could have got the numbers from his parents or asked his buddies for there parents numbers...

Anyone know who is playing today in Nassau Conference 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who is playing today in Nassau Conference 1

Syosset vs Oceanside
Farmingdale vs Hicksville.

Two blow out games.

Whats going on in the Suffolk playoffs where are we at, whose left

6-3 BBP over SWR at half

7-6 swr 2:40 left in 3rd. Alex Gregorek killing BBP

8-6 swr over BBP after 3

Thx for the constant updates your dedication to keeping us informed is uplifting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thx for the constant updates your dedication to keeping us informed is uplifting

Leave the poor guy alone. He obviously has nobody in his life to give score updates to. Let’s make this an inclusive website.

Personally, I can’t wait for the updates on the next SWR game. Edge of my seat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8-6 swr over BBP after 3

What was the final score ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7-6 swr 2:40 left in 3rd. Alex Gregorek killing BBP

WOW, stop the world!

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

I disagree I think Pequa wins Nassau and whoever they play in the LIC will be a hard fought game but will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

Its anyone game all 4 teams have played to 1 goal games.
Should be some great lacrosse.

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

Big Northport game today vs Huntington.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

My son made it and told me he thought there were plenty of kids who were left off. But we ordered the plaque anyway and he isn’t giving the honor back.

Thanks BOTC!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

My son made it and told me he thought there were plenty of kids who were left off. But we ordered the plaque anyway and he isn’t giving the honor back.

Thanks BOTC!

What is this the Suffolk and Privates list? Next to nothing for Nassau?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

Who says it is not accurate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

Who says it is not accurate?

Stop. This list is nothing more than club directors promoting a handful of their kids. Club directors (not all) were asked who their 2025 players were. This list will mean something for their junior year since all of them should be playing varsity, if not than they shouldn't have been on it in the first place. Time will tell. For now NOBODY is looking at or cares about 2025's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

Its anyone game all 4 teams have played to 1 goal games.
Should be some great lacrosse.

Port vs. Syosset. Flip a coin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

Its anyone game all 4 teams have played to 1 goal games.
Should be some great lacrosse.

Port vs. Syosset. Flip a coin

Will be tough to win that game if Port can't get close to winning 25% of the possessions. Not impossible, but tough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can this be be called the top ranked frosh when half of this list don't even play for their varsity teams. There is no way someone is out there watching freshman or jv lacrosse and ranking kids. Call it what it is. A llist of kids put together by travel coaches. https://www.backofthecage.com/ubbth...me/hs-blax-top-60-ranked-frosh-2022.html

They very clearly state how they determine who makes it, sorry your son didn't, but try to keep the hysterics down a bit.

The list is not accurate. But is what it is and who cares there a dozen other lists.

Who says it is not accurate?

Stop. This list is nothing more than club directors promoting a handful of their kids. Club directors (not all) were asked who their 2025 players were. This list will mean something for their junior year since all of them should be playing varsity, if not than they shouldn't have been on it in the first place. Time will tell. For now NOBODY is looking at or cares about 2025's

So you, just you think the list is not accurate because your son didn't make it. Does that clear this up?

Think swr over sinai in an upset in C final

2 best public school teams any size on LI. Too bad one has to lose.

is the game streaming anywhere?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think swr over sinai in an upset in C final

Both teams are great not so sure it is an upset but I hear what your saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think swr over sinai in an upset in C final

Both teams are great not so sure it is an upset but I hear what your saying

And the winner gets Manhasset?

Anyone know where do you find the list of the 2022 all-conference and all-county players for Nassau county?

Definitely streaming but I don’t have the link for you.

How do you go about ordering the plaque?

https://www.leaguelineup.com/miscinfo.asp?menuid=45&url=nclca

But 2022 not announced yet

Never saw a 16-5 blowout coming but I sure enjoyed it. MS did everything right including dominating the face offs. Holding SWR to 5 goals says a lot for the defense and goaltending. Next year may be a different story but team will always have 2022. Two more steps to the goal.

Swr can’t shine their shoes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wins tomorrow in Nassau Conference 1, I like Pequa and Port to win.

IMO, winner of PW and Dale wins Conference Championship.

Its anyone game all 4 teams have played to 1 goal games.
Should be some great lacrosse.

Congrats to Port for a 9-8 victory over Syosset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think swr over sinai in an upset in C final

Both teams are great not so sure it is an upset but I hear what your saying

Both team aren't great, MS is a GREAT team and Best On LI, the other beats Yaphank by 15 and parents pound there chest.

1. MS
2. St A's
3. Chaminade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Swr can’t shine their shoes!

After a week of planning that was embarrassing. The last of the talents developed by Rotanz and the old SWR regime graduated last year. There’s no more depth there and you can’t plug the holes moving more kids into the district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Swr can’t shine their shoes!

After a week of planning that was embarrassing. The last of the talents developed by Rotanz and the old SWR regime graduated last year. There’s no more depth there and you can’t plug the holes moving more kids into the district.

Why do I have the feeling you never played a minute of lacrosse ever, but always have a lot to say on the subject?

SWR only lost 2 games all year, both to MS, was nationally ranked in top 20 and you are writing this? 99% of high school teams wish the had SWRs talent. MS played a perfect game and SWR came out flat. They get back their top players in 2023 and will be very tough. And this is coming from a MS fan.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where do you find the list of the 2022 all-conference and all-county players for Nassau county?

How is it determined, is it the coach of your HS team or do the conference coaches have to agree which players get all-conference and all-county????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where do you find the list of the 2022 all-conference and all-county players for Nassau county?

How is it determined, is it the coach of your HS team or do the conference coaches have to agree which players get all-conference and all-county????

HS coach gets a certain number to give out depending on how the team does and the competitiveness of schedule. Coach decides who gets the awards. Coach also nominates players for All-American and all the conference coaches vote on that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Think swr over sinai in an upset in C final

Both teams are great not so sure it is an upset but I hear what your saying

And the winner gets Manhasset?

Manhasset has not won yet. There is a reason why they play the championship games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know where do you find the list of the 2022 all-conference and all-county players for Nassau county?

How is it determined, is it the coach of your HS team or do the conference coaches have to agree which players get all-conference and all-county????

HS coach gets a certain number to give out depending on how the team does and the competitiveness of schedule. Coach decides who gets the awards. Coach also nominates players for All-American and all the conference coaches vote on that.

So after they determine how many and what honor each team gets its solely up to each HS coach on which kids gets what award.

Each team based on where they ended in the standings gets a certain amount of all conference picks. All County is debated and discussed at the coaches meeting. There were less spots this season than normal.

Teams are slotted their total awards. All county and all American are debated within the conference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams are slotted their total awards. All county and all American are debated within the conference.

A lot of very good players who don't play on the best teams will get overlooked. Happens every year, just the way it is. Top teams have weighted votes and allotted more spots. I have never agreed with it. Best players are easy to spot regardless of where they play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Each team based on where they ended in the standings gets a certain amount of all conference picks. All County is debated and discussed at the coaches meeting. There were less spots this season than normal.

Bad information, same number as usual. Where did you get that there were less?

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TOP 50 SOPHOMORE LIST? THERE ARE PLAYERS BOYS AND GIRLS THAT MADE TOP 50 THAT BARELY PLAYED OR NEVER PLAYED LMFAO

Some kids make lists and they deserve it. Some kids make the lists because of who they are connected to. This is no secret. This is how it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TOP 50 SOPHOMORE LIST? THERE ARE PLAYERS BOYS AND GIRLS THAT MADE TOP 50 THAT BARELY PLAYED OR NEVER PLAYED LMFAO

Translated as “my son didn’t make the list so it’s not legitimate”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TOP 50 SOPHOMORE LIST? THERE ARE PLAYERS BOYS AND GIRLS THAT MADE TOP 50 THAT BARELY PLAYED OR NEVER PLAYED LMFAO

It’s a list. They had a coach advocating on their behalf. It is what it is. Every year these list come out every year there are players who deserve to be on the list that do not make the list This has been happening for years and will continue to happen for years to come. In the end it really doesn’t matter. The college coaches know who fits their programs and who doesn’t. They do not look at these list and say wow Johnny Jones is listed as a Top 50 player. I need to have him If your kid is not on the list don’t worry. if he is good and playing in showcases this summer, they will see him. If he fits their program as a player and student they will reach out to him.
If your kid made the list congratulations that means he is a good player and his coaches believe in him. If your kid didn’t make the list, it does not mean he is not a good player. Let him use as motivation. Good luck to everyone this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TOP 50 SOPHOMORE LIST? THERE ARE PLAYERS BOYS AND GIRLS THAT MADE TOP 50 THAT BARELY PLAYED OR NEVER PLAYED LMFAO

Get the same list with club affiliation and you'll have your answer

It all depends on what club directors actually promote their kids .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It all depends on what club directors actually promote their kids .

Do the high school coaches have any input for these lists?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It all depends on what club directors actually promote their kids .

Do the high school coaches have any input for these lists?

who actually creates this list? is it the FLG journal? if so, there's your answer

looking at the list i would say that the high school coaches have nothing to do with it..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

looking at the list i would say that the high school coaches have nothing to do with it..

Why not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Swr can’t shine their shoes!

After a week of planning that was embarrassing. The last of the talents developed by Rotanz and the old SWR regime graduated last year. There’s no more depth there and you can’t plug the holes moving more kids into the district.

Why do I have the feeling you never played a minute of lacrosse ever, but always have a lot to say on the subject?

You really don’t need to play at all. You can learn a lot from Carc and his coverage.

High School has to add the shot clock

Originally Posted by Anonymous

High School has to add the shot clock

Congrats to Manhasset Coaches excellent game plan..

When are the All County and All American Awards announced?

Definitely need a shot clock in high school. Some of these game are unwatchable. Some of these games are less exciting than baseball games. It just makes the sport more exciting when kids don’t have the luxury of spinning the ball around 47 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When are the All County and All American Awards announced?

Your coaches already voted on them. The typically won't post until awards dinner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Definitely need a shot clock in high school. Some of these game are unwatchable. Some of these games are less exciting than baseball games. It just makes the sport more exciting when kids don’t have the luxury of spinning the ball around 47 times.

Next Outlaw Zone Defense

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I agree, we played 4 quality conference games and 2 quality non conference games. So if my Math is right we played 6 quality games and 9 blow out wins. I only have 1 more year to watch HS Lax so I know I wont see a change but it would be nice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

Will the Catholics be invited?

anyway to stream the games today? Do you have to pay?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

You are 100% correct, it would become travel lax......bloated AA travel teams where only the top half of the roster plays. Play the best and rarely develop the other players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyway to stream the games today? Do you have to pay?

You want something free from the lax world?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyway to stream the games today? Do you have to pay?

You want something free from the lax world?

Any idea if there will be a Nassau boys award dinner?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyway to stream the games today? Do you have to pay?

You want something free from the lax world?

Any idea if there will be a Nassau boys award dinner?

June 15 - Crest Hollow Country Club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyway to stream the games today? Do you have to pay?

You want something free from the lax world?

Any idea if there will be a Nassau boys award dinner?

June 15 - Crest Hollow Country Club

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

You are 100% correct, it would become travel lax......bloated AA travel teams where only the top half of the roster plays. Play the best and rarely develop the other players.

Isn't that what hs is? Best players on the field. Do you think any hs coach is developing players? They're getting talented players from travel teams and hoping to fill in with serviceable athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

I had some thoughts on how this could be done. Now bear with me but what if it was similar to English Premiere League soccer where the bottom 2 or 3 teams are "relegated" to a lower division and the top 2 or 3 teams are moved up to a better division every year. So schools with smaller enrollment but great teams could move up into a more competitive division and bigger schools with less competitive teams could play meaningful games. Could make every game count as no one would want to get "relegated".

The system is already in place for girls ability based conferences regardless of population then you go back to classification for the playoffs. It works well the amount of competitive games is much better. The current situation is not good. My schools team wither won by 10 or lost by 10 most games and had like 3 games that were within a couple of goals. Is manhasset getting anything out of playing the pre season 8 seed?

If you don’t want to model girls and you want to reinvent the wheel you can also go smaller conferences so there is not as big a gap between seeds.

The team that is supposed to win the title will still win the title, it’s just that you’ll see better games all season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The system is already in place for girls ability based conferences regardless of population then you go back to classification for the playoffs. It works well the amount of competitive games is much better. The current situation is not good. My schools team wither won by 10 or lost by 10 most games and had like 3 games that were within a couple of goals. Is manhasset getting anything out of playing the pre season 8 seed?

If you don’t want to model girls and you want to reinvent the wheel you can also go smaller conferences so there is not as big a gap between seeds.

The team that is supposed to win the title will still win the title, it’s just that you’ll see better games all season.

I don't understand why they don't change the current system. People (the taxpayers footing the bill) have been complaining for years. Maybe that's why there are only 10 spectators in the stands for games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HS coaches and AD's please put together competitive groups based on ability not size to play regular season lacrosse next year. I can't take another year of 10 to 15 point wins with the starters sitting on the bench by halftime. For playoffs you can go back to enrollment and win the coveted title. The power schools will always be dominant and the bottom schools just cant hang. For those braggarts who say just get better, it will never happen. Those non competitive towns have no feeder programs and can barely field teams. If the current system continues I fear schools will drop lacrosse altogether. I've seen on here that the girls do it differently, maybe that system works? Our schedule this year had one or two competitive conference games. Our school doesn't really travel for non-conference games so we're forced to endure boring lopsided wins.

I hear you….and I’ve thought the same as you for a long time.

Let me pose this question to you though.
If you build a power conference model, the goal is going to be comparable competition in every game. Theoretically, every game should be close, right? So, when do the kids who aren’t starters, that sit the bench for the entirety of close games….when do they get to play?

I’m not trying to go against you….I’m trying to think of all athletes here.

That being said, there needs to be some sort of balance between enrollment and competition level…..

I had some thoughts on how this could be done. Now bear with me but what if it was similar to English Premiere League soccer where the bottom 2 or 3 teams are "relegated" to a lower division and the top 2 or 3 teams are moved up to a better division every year. So schools with smaller enrollment but great teams could move up into a more competitive division and bigger schools with less competitive teams could play meaningful games. Could make every game count as no one would want to get "relegated".

In principle, that works but the lesser teams are not consistently good or bad so moving them up after a good year or down after bad year doesn't mean they will continue to be good or bad the following year. If the coach is honest about the calibre of his team from year to year then he should dictate what conference. Class B used to have B1 and B2 and that worked. All B1 teams made playoffs and the top 2-4 (depending on how many in B1) made the playoffs.

Yes it’s on a yearly basis and the coaches have to justify requesting moving up with facts. I.e I have 5 returning players my JV was undefeated etc. Girls soccer does it too. Boys soccer used to. The argument that we need blowouts so bench kids can play is garbage as well. If the object of sport is to have competition this is a no brainer. The system this year gave teams almost as many non league games as they did league games so the better teams could play stronger teams - let’s take that out of the equation and make the ability based public school conferences.

Blah Blah Blah All County All Conference.. LI sweep tomorrow in NYS Championship at Hofstra CSH NP GC and Manhasset....GC seems to have the toughest game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blah Blah Blah All County All Conference.. LI sweep tomorrow in NYS Championship at Hofstra CSH NP GC and Manhasset....GC seems to have the toughest game

I went to Hofstra this past Saturday to watch the games. Except for Baldwinsville, the other teams outside of LI were not nearly as good as their LI opponents. If I had to rank the LI teams I would say Garden City, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and Northport. The A's on LI must have been very weak this year. Garden City had the best defense I have seen in a long time. numerous take aways and ground ball machines. Manahsset had the best offense in my opinion. Overall fun to watch and nice to have on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The system is already in place for girls ability based conferences regardless of population then you go back to classification for the playoffs. It works well the amount of competitive games is much better. The current situation is not good. My schools team wither won by 10 or lost by 10 most games and had like 3 games that were within a couple of goals. Is manhasset getting anything out of playing the pre season 8 seed?

If you don’t want to model girls and you want to reinvent the wheel you can also go smaller conferences so there is not as big a gap between seeds.

The team that is supposed to win the title will still win the title, it’s just that you’ll see better games all season.

Just put your son in girls lacrosse, that's allowed now. Then this can finally be put to bed and the boy's teams can play without the constant whining from parents whose team gets smoked week in and week out.

Can I get a refund for the sham Nassau/Suffolk showcase? The evaluations to advance to the next round were a complete sham. Some teams were completely stacked, every kid from the hs and club coaching mafia made the cut. Outstanding players were off because of the helmet they wore. This event has gone completely downhill and has ZERO credibility. Had we known that all it took was our coaches writing the kids number down on a piece of paper we would have asked them to attend.

First year we've done it and have to agree. My son already knows who made it from talking to his club teammates. Although we made it some questionable decisions overall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I get a refund for the sham Nassau/Suffolk showcase? The evaluations to advance to the next round were a complete sham. Some teams were completely stacked, every kid from the hs and club coaching mafia made the cut. Outstanding players were off because of the helmet they wore. This event has gone completely downhill and has ZERO credibility. Had we known that all it took was our coaches writing the kids number down on a piece of paper we would have asked them to attend.

This has been the issue for the start. Some of the kids that make it deserve it others have no business being on the team. It’s not 100% political but there are a lot of politics involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I get a refund for the sham Nassau/Suffolk showcase? The evaluations to advance to the next round were a complete sham. Some teams were completely stacked, every kid from the hs and club coaching mafia made the cut. Outstanding players were off because of the helmet they wore. This event has gone completely downhill and has ZERO credibility. Had we known that all it took was our coaches writing the kids number down on a piece of paper we would have asked them to attend.

Agree definitely a mess. Way too many kids. Some teams sat for 2 games then had to play 3 straight. One field had four or five coaches evaluating, the other field had at times 1 and some teams played all their games on the same field. No guidance on the sidelines except for a kid timing 10 minutes to swap goalies, attack, and defense lines. All hero ball, no team concept.

That’s how it goes. When you see who the coaching staff is on these things, almost everybody knows who is going to make the team, the list, the outstanding player sheet, etc. Tryouts are a formality. A kid can do better than another kid on a 3 hour tryout,that means absolutely nothing. My son plays defense. He can get beat 20 out of 20 times, if my best friend is coaching, my son is on the team.

Anybody have a list of the awards given out for Nassau last night?

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

"If I had to rank the LI teams I would say Garden City, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and Northport."

Interesting ranking as CSH beat both Manhasset and GC this season...

agreed, but I think GC played poorly against CSH early in the season (no excuses) and would beat them hypothetically today, same thing with manhasset. Although saying that CSH is also a great team and technically better than both teams this season and they have improved aswell three great programs glad the LI teams got a state chip. my opinion of ranking as of last game of year goes GC CSH SET

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"If I had to rank the LI teams I would say Garden City, Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and Northport."

Interesting ranking as CSH beat both Manhasset and GC this season...

Sorry, when I was ranking them I meant my opinion based upon the State championship games, not the season overall. I did not know CSH beat both GC and Manhasset. It was so hard to tell how good CSH was because their opponent was just so bad. I am thinking quite a few JV teams could have beaten that oppoentnet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Originally Posted by anonymous99

agreed, but I think GC played poorly against CSH early in the season (no excuses) and would beat them hypothetically today, same thing with manhasset. Although saying that CSH is also a great team and technically better than both teams this season and they have improved aswell three great programs glad the LI teams got a state chip. my opinion of ranking as of last game of year goes GC CSH SET

Rankings. SET, GC, CSH.. Set was playing the best lacrosse at the end of the year and with the win over MS clearly the #1..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by anonymous99

agreed, but I think GC played poorly against CSH early in the season (no excuses) and would beat them hypothetically today, same thing with manhasset. Although saying that CSH is also a great team and technically better than both teams this season and they have improved aswell three great programs glad the LI teams got a state chip. my opinion of ranking as of last game of year goes GC CSH SET

Rankings. SET, GC, CSH.. Set was playing the best lacrosse at the end of the year and with the win over MS clearly the #1..

Too bad they cant have a long island championship. All the top privates and publics. Top 16 teams. Always impressed how these smaller towns do so well. CSH. Manhasset. Would be nice for them to finish their season against some proper teams. Playing crappy teams doesnt help anyone. And the crowing gets old.

Obviously the upstate D representative was awful, but in season results matter and they are what they are. And opinions are just that and this is a forum for thoughts and opinions as well as facts.

Yeah, sure lets bring in all the good national teams as well and tell the other 99.9 percent of the teams to not bother playing and find another sport. Cant you just be happy to be a state champ and play the competition presented??? Its amazing the people on here that ALWAYS find an issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Fairly straight forward. Academic all conference =>85 average. Academic All-County => 90 average and Academic All-America = 9 highest average of All-County Players and possibly (not sure) needed to be on the All-American watch list. Now the rub about average is that every school is different. Some schools are known for grade inflation and others are more difficult. Further, they do not take a weighted average which is a good indicator of the rigor of courses the student-athlete takes.

As for the all-conference, county and american awards... simple, the better teams get the most. Very difficult for an All-County player to get all American if not on the county championship. Not impossible but difficult. The 9 All-Americans deserve the award but there are other equally good players so they have to set some sort of differentiator which is how far into the playoffs / championships. I believe the 9 players were all from CSH, Manhasset, GC and possibly 1 from Syosset / Port. I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Fairly straight forward. Academic all conference =>85 average. Academic All-County => 90 average and Academic All-America = 9 highest average of All-County Players and possibly (not sure) needed to be on the All-American watch list. Now the rub about average is that every school is different. Some schools are known for grade inflation and others are more difficult. Further, they do not take a weighted average which is a good indicator of the rigor of courses the student-athlete takes.

As for the all-conference, county and american awards... simple, the better teams get the most. Very difficult for an All-County player to get all American if not on the county championship. Not impossible but difficult. The 9 All-Americans deserve the award but there are other equally good players so they have to set some sort of differentiator which is how far into the playoffs / championships. I believe the 9 players were all from CSH, Manhasset, GC and possibly 1 from Syosset / Port. I could be wrong.

The system is nonsense. All coaches know who the good and great players are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Fairly straight forward. Academic all conference =>85 average. Academic All-County => 90 average and Academic All-America = 9 highest average of All-County Players and possibly (not sure) needed to be on the All-American watch list. Now the rub about average is that every school is different. Some schools are known for grade inflation and others are more difficult. Further, they do not take a weighted average which is a good indicator of the rigor of courses the student-athlete takes.

As for the all-conference, county and american awards... simple, the better teams get the most. Very difficult for an All-County player to get all American if not on the county championship. Not impossible but difficult. The 9 All-Americans deserve the award but there are other equally good players so they have to set some sort of differentiator which is how far into the playoffs / championships. I believe the 9 players were all from CSH, Manhasset, GC and possibly 1 from Syosset / Port. I could be wrong.

The system is nonsense. All coaches know who the good and great players are.

What does that mean.... if the coaches know the good players then the awards wouldn't primarily go to the teams that won th county championship. This is not about recruiting. It is to recognize hard work and talent. The process doesn't work if a great player doens't get the award because he is on a mediocre team. Don't get me wrong, the All-American players are great but, to your point, they may not be the best. They are the best on their team and look even better because everyone around them is really good vs. the Wantaugh or Bellmore kid that is really good but most of his teammates are part timers in lacrosse so they don't win every game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Fairly straight forward. Academic all conference =>85 average. Academic All-County => 90 average and Academic All-America = 9 highest average of All-County Players and possibly (not sure) needed to be on the All-American watch list. Now the rub about average is that every school is different. Some schools are known for grade inflation and others are more difficult. Further, they do not take a weighted average which is a good indicator of the rigor of courses the student-athlete takes.

As for the all-conference, county and american awards... simple, the better teams get the most. Very difficult for an All-County player to get all American if not on the county championship. Not impossible but difficult. The 9 All-Americans deserve the award but there are other equally good players so they have to set some sort of differentiator which is how far into the playoffs / championships. I believe the 9 players were all from CSH, Manhasset, GC and possibly 1 from Syosset / Port. I could be wrong.

The system is nonsense. All coaches know who the good and great players are.

What does that mean.... if the coaches know the good players then the awards wouldn't primarily go to the teams that won th county championship. This is not about recruiting. It is to recognize hard work and talent. The process doesn't work if a great player doens't get the award because he is on a mediocre team. Don't get me wrong, the All-American players are great but, to your point, they may not be the best. They are the best on their team and look even better because everyone around them is really good vs. the Wantaugh or Bellmore kid that is really good but most of his teammates are part timers in lacrosse so they don't win every game.

The coaches vote. What better system can you come up with?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

https://www.canva.com/design/DAFC01q68_k/irV74WhGVT5P3Do0c5Xeqw/view

Link to the awards from last Nassau county last night

It would be nice to see the criteria and explanation for the awards, even the nomination process is a mystery. Maybe intentionally so. Some schools seem to have the majority of academic awards yet others have none at all on the list. Forget about asking our coach or AD they have no interest

Fairly straight forward. Academic all conference =>85 average. Academic All-County => 90 average and Academic All-America = 9 highest average of All-County Players and possibly (not sure) needed to be on the All-American watch list. Now the rub about average is that every school is different. Some schools are known for grade inflation and others are more difficult. Further, they do not take a weighted average which is a good indicator of the rigor of courses the student-athlete takes.

As for the all-conference, county and american awards... simple, the better teams get the most. Very difficult for an All-County player to get all American if not on the county championship. Not impossible but difficult. The 9 All-Americans deserve the award but there are other equally good players so they have to set some sort of differentiator which is how far into the playoffs / championships. I believe the 9 players were all from CSH, Manhasset, GC and possibly 1 from Syosset / Port. I could be wrong.

The system is nonsense. All coaches know who the good and great players are.

What does that mean.... if the coaches know the good players then the awards wouldn't primarily go to the teams that won th county championship. This is not about recruiting. It is to recognize hard work and talent. The process doesn't work if a great player doens't get the award because he is on a mediocre team. Don't get me wrong, the All-American players are great but, to your point, they may not be the best. They are the best on their team and look even better because everyone around them is really good vs. the Wantaugh or Bellmore kid that is really good but most of his teammates are part timers in lacrosse so they don't win every game.

Well, that would then render the top club teams as useless evaluators of talent, wouldn't it?

Have the emails gone out for the Suffolk vs. Nassau game on Thursday? Last year everyone got an email but no one I know has gotten one (at least one of them must have made the Nassau team).

Fake news. One of the All Americans is from a very mediocre team. Kid is an excellent player with a never quit attitude.
Well deserved All American!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have the emails gone out for the Suffolk vs. Nassau game on Thursday? Last year everyone got an email but no one I know has gotten one (at least one of them must have made the Nassau team).

[quote=Anonymous]
Haven’t heard or seen anything yet.

I don't know about Nassau but Suffolk went out yesterday around suppertime.

Supper time. Lol. Haven’t heard that word in about 40 years. I eat late, so my supper time could be different than other peoples supper time. Me and my friends like to go out for a nice steak supper. Not dinner. It’s supper.

Massapeuqa HS had one Honorable Mention All American committed to Hofstra and another kid got Academic All American committed to Stonybrook both were All County. Both deserved the accolades

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know about Nassau but Suffolk went out yesterday around suppertime.

Nobody has refuted the fact, yes FACT, that players who didn't attend the earlier rounds somehow made it to the final 50 game. Directors and evaluators please explain. This event was supposed to be an open tryout regardless of HS or Club affiliation. Not one player from our HS made the cut yet other HS with evaluators and directors dominate the roster.

Some coaches are involved in club ball and favor their club kids.

Thanks captain obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some coaches are involved in club ball and favor their club kids.

That is an understatement. The entire event sounds like a sham. If that really is the case, that kids didn't have to tryout but advanced, why aren't more people upset about it. And why aren't those responsible held accountable?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know about Nassau but Suffolk went out yesterday around suppertime.

Nobody has refuted the fact, yes FACT, that players who didn't attend the earlier rounds somehow made it to the final 50 game. Directors and evaluators please explain. This event was supposed to be an open tryout regardless of HS or Club affiliation. Not one player from our HS made the cut yet other HS with evaluators and directors dominate the roster.

You're going to be waiting a while if you think you are getting an explanation here dude. But answer me this, are those kids on teams playing for state championships, and therefore unable to attend? Additionally, what HS does your son play for? Is the program awful?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know about Nassau but Suffolk went out yesterday around suppertime.

Nobody has refuted the fact, yes FACT, that players who didn't attend the earlier rounds somehow made it to the final 50 game. Directors and evaluators please explain. This event was supposed to be an open tryout regardless of HS or Club affiliation. Not one player from our HS made the cut yet other HS with evaluators and directors dominate the roster.

You're going to be waiting a while if you think you are getting an explanation here dude. But answer me this, are those kids on teams playing for state championships, and therefore unable to attend? Additionally, what HS does your son play for? Is the program awful?

Of course nobody will answer them, this is Long Island, nepotism and cronyism run everything. At least someone has the stones to ask questions. I can only answer that I believe the kids in state games were already done. My son did advance and had the same observation. Kids appeared in later games that were not at first tryout. I guess the earlier tryout was based on reputation for some lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know about Nassau but Suffolk went out yesterday around suppertime.

Nobody has refuted the fact, yes FACT, that players who didn't attend the earlier rounds somehow made it to the final 50 game. Directors and evaluators please explain. This event was supposed to be an open tryout regardless of HS or Club affiliation. Not one player from our HS made the cut yet other HS with evaluators and directors dominate the roster.

You're going to be waiting a while if you think you are getting an explanation here dude. But answer me this, are those kids on teams playing for state championships, and therefore unable to attend? Additionally, what HS does your son play for? Is the program awful?

Of course nobody will answer them, this is Long Island, nepotism and cronyism run everything. At least someone has the stones to ask questions. I can only answer that I believe the kids in state games were already done. My son did advance and had the same observation. Kids appeared in later games that were not at first tryout. I guess the earlier tryout was based on reputation for some lol.

one of the kids was told if they were all-county they got an invite to the top 50 game.

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

The only FACT here is this, your kid didn't make the team so you're upset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

The only FACT here is this, your kid didn't make the team so you're upset.

My son made it and yes the above statement is correct. I could give you several names at 2025 alone. Players that were not present on the first days event advanced. Who cares what the reason was. If that is how the event is going to be run than there should be some transparency. Oh wait, these are club lacrosse and hs coaches we're dealing with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

The only FACT here is this, your kid didn't make the team so you're upset.

My son didn’t get a fair shot at making the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

The only FACT here is this, your kid didn't make the team so you're upset.

My son made it and yes the above statement is correct. I could give you several names at 2025 alone. Players that were not present on the first days event advanced. Who cares what the reason was. If that is how the event is going to be run than there should be some transparency. Oh wait, these are club lacrosse and hs coaches we're dealing with.

This is why they can’t field a team for the tournament in Albany

Yes there will be the local Suny schools there but you can get that during the year at your local HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are looking for players to complete the team for the state tournament in Albany seems like many dropped out after the Nassau Suffolk game.

Good. The whole thing was a joke. Look at the names running the event. That should tell you everything you need to know about their character. How can they represent LI when kids never got a fair tryout. FACT

The only FACT here is this, your kid didn't make the team so you're upset.

My son didn’t get a fair shot at making the team.

Sure he didn't

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there will be the local Suny schools there but you can get that during the year at your local HS

Yeah, don't play just to have fun, only lace em up if the"coaches" are there. Ridiculous statement and the exact reason everyone on here makes the same ridiculous complaints every year. No one plays to have fun anymore. You have all killed the sport with your "recruiting" nonsense. Just remember a good tutor and some SAT prep classes and your kid will get a whole lot more money than any "lax ride".

SAT at most schools now are optional way to stay current

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SAT at most schools now are optional way to stay current

Way to deflect from the statement. Typical.

Looks like no 2024 team representing Suffolk at the NYSRC, anyone know what happened there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like no 2024 team representing Suffolk at the NYSRC, anyone know what happened there?

Many club events around the same time with more appeal. After all the accusations of kids not trying out and advancing and overall unfair tryout process why would anyone still support this event next season? Some tryout teams were stacked other had absolute nobody. Great job coaches you ruined another event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like no 2024 team representing Suffolk at the NYSRC, anyone know what happened there?

Many club events around the same time with more appeal. After all the accusations of kids not trying out and advancing and overall unfair tryout process why would anyone still support this event next season? Some tryout teams were stacked other had absolute nobody. Great job coaches you ruined another event.

I’m shocked Nassau has a team. I saw the rosters on face book. Most of those kids play on B teams. This event lost all of its appeal. It’s a shame this could have been a great event each year if they did it the right way from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like no 2024 team representing Suffolk at the NYSRC, anyone know what happened there?

Many club events around the same time with more appeal. After all the accusations of kids not trying out and advancing and overall unfair tryout process why would anyone still support this event next season? Some tryout teams were stacked other had absolute nobody. Great job coaches you ruined another event.

I’m shocked Nassau has a team. I saw the rosters on face book. Most of those kids play on B teams. This event lost all of its appeal. It’s a shame this could have been a great event each year if they did it the right way from the beginning.

Best players not even representing the Long Island. Some players never got a fair shot because their coach's weren't involved the other half have other events. Congratulation's if your kid made it through but don't think for a minute these lists represent the best talent on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like no 2024 team representing Suffolk at the NYSRC, anyone know what happened there?

Many club events around the same time with more appeal. After all the accusations of kids not trying out and advancing and overall unfair tryout process why would anyone still support this event next season? Some tryout teams were stacked other had absolute nobody. Great job coaches you ruined another event.

I’m shocked Nassau has a team. I saw the rosters on face book. Most of those kids play on B teams. This event lost all of its appeal. It’s a shame this could have been a great event each year if they did it the right way from the beginning.

Best players not even representing the Long Island. Some players never got a fair shot because their coach's weren't involved the other half have other events. Congratulation's if your kid made it through but don't think for a minute these lists represent the best talent on LI.

Everyone drops out after the Nassau Suffolk game, kids who don’t attend the earlier rounds somehow end up in that game in front of hundreds of college coaches.

Yeah, don't play just to have fun, only lace em up if the"coaches" are there. Ridiculous statement and the exact reason everyone on here makes the same ridiculous complaints every year. No one plays to have fun anymore. You have all killed the sport with your "recruiting" nonsense. Just remember a good tutor and some SAT prep classes and your kid will get a whole lot more money than any "lax ride".[/quote]

You can grab six of your buddies, drag two cages together and go have fun… you don’t need to pay $600 to go upstate to do so. People generally pay that much money for recruiting showcases where there are a lot of coaches attending. If it was about fun they wouldn’t be charging so much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, don't play just to have fun, only lace em up if the"coaches" are there. Ridiculous statement and the exact reason everyone on here makes the same ridiculous complaints every year. No one plays to have fun anymore. You have all killed the sport with your "recruiting" nonsense. Just remember a good tutor and some SAT prep classes and your kid will get a whole lot more money than any "lax ride".

You can grab six of your buddies, drag two cages together and go have fun… you don’t need to pay $600 to go upstate to do so. People generally pay that much money for recruiting showcases where there are a lot of coaches attending. If it was about fun they wouldn’t be charging so much[/quote]

Exactly add in the cost of the original tryout plus the cost of traveling upstate. Some, if not most need to take time off from work. All for a B level tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, don't play just to have fun, only lace em up if the"coaches" are there. Ridiculous statement and the exact reason everyone on here makes the same ridiculous complaints every year. No one plays to have fun anymore. You have all killed the sport with your "recruiting" nonsense. Just remember a good tutor and some SAT prep classes and your kid will get a whole lot more money than any "lax ride".

You can grab six of your buddies, drag two cages together and go have fun… you don’t need to pay $600 to go upstate to do so. People generally pay that much money for recruiting showcases where there are a lot of coaches attending. If it was about fun they wouldn’t be charging so much

Exactly add in the cost of the original tryout plus the cost of traveling upstate. Some, if not most need to take time off from work. All for a B level tournament[/quot

they are enjoying the Capital Region and you are sweating it out on LI. Shut up.

Pequa has all there top point leaders back except one. The Dale is getting back 2 good players from Catholic schools so that should help them. Nassau conference 1 will have to go through one of these two schools.

dont count out port washington

When did they play WI in a scrimmage?

Pequa next year will win the State title

Pequa next year will win the State title

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not sure about that statement, but if they have a fogo I think they can make a deep run. The 4 senior middies coming back are really good.

WI has lost a major attackman going to be difficult to compete

Heard Sachem East Head coach stepping down after one season . Connor Farrell PLL faceoff guy. That team must had 5 different coaches in 8 yrs . Players suffer the most . Thats why the better kids go to Catholics .

Pequa doesnt have the FOGO to win the states. They couldn't even make it to the county finals without a FOGO this year and you are on here saying they will win states.. Get a grip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Sachem East Head coach stepping down after one season . Connor Farrell PLL faceoff guy. That team must had 5 different coaches in 8 yrs . Players suffer the most . Thats why the better kids go to Catholics .

fool parents with unrealistic expectations. They bend the ear of the AD or their friends on the BOE and next thing you know the coach is gone. Seems to be a pattern in certain districts. Right or wrong there used to be a pecking order clearly established by the players and their abilities, not anymore. Now it's what parent can make the most noise or has the most pull. Adults have ruined youth sports, soon they'll be no officials or coaches who want to get involved. Officiating is already at dangerously low numbers, coaching will soon follow.

and who might that be???Starting attack is intact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and who might that be???Starting attack is intact.

What is this post referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Sachem East Head coach stepping down after one season . Connor Farrell PLL faceoff guy. That team must had 5 different coaches in 8 yrs . Players suffer the most . Thats why the better kids go to Catholics .

fool parents with unrealistic expectations. They bend the ear of the AD or their friends on the BOE and next thing you know the coach is gone. Seems to be a pattern in certain districts. Right or wrong there used to be a pecking order clearly established by the players and their abilities, not anymore. Now it's what parent can make the most noise or has the most pull. Adults have ruined youth sports, soon they'll be no officials or coaches who want to get involved. Officiating is already at dangerously low numbers, coaching will soon follow.

Does the district suppose to post head coach position to the public ? Not sure how it works

about WI attack

Pequa has the best starting midfield line coming back they will be a force next year.

How will West Islip look this year ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will West Islip look this year ?

Same as it has the last ten years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will West Islip look this year ?

The same as always. Royal blue helmets with gold lettering. White jerseys for home games and Royal Blue for away. That’s the rumor anyways…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown east 2 faceoff guys could of started on anyway team 2 years ago and be a impact on that team , they are very good.

This post personifies this chain. Completely ridiculous statement, fogo dad. My kids team doesn’t have a kid on the team that can Faceoff. Not a single kid. But played Smithtown East and easily won 70 percent of the Faceoffs and coasted to an easy win. Just keeping it real, fogo dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How will West Islip look this year ?

The same as always. Royal blue helmets with gold lettering. White jerseys for home games and Royal Blue for away. That’s the rumor anyways…

WI? Give up the ghost WI dad. WI days are looooong over. Team was subpar last year with below average talent. Simply not good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

dont count out port washington

PW had there 1 year run and will go back to being 3rd or 4th in Class A as usual.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Sachem East Head coach stepping down after one season . Connor Farrell PLL faceoff guy. That team must had 5 different coaches in 8 yrs . Players suffer the most . Thats why the better kids go to Catholics .

The Sachem East program has not been good since the beginning. Not from lack of players, but lack of direction. The good news is that on the youth level, they finally have stability with the current leadership. Hopefully that translates into school ball.

Funny how WI erroneously thought they were going to run through the B conference. Not even close...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smithtown east 2 faceoff guys could of started on anyway team 2 years ago and be a impact on that team , they are very good.

This post personifies this chain. Completely ridiculous statement, fogo dad. My kids team doesn’t have a kid on the team that can Faceoff. Not a single kid. But played Smithtown East and easily won 70 percent of the Faceoffs and coasted to an easy win. Just keeping it real, fogo dad.

Smithtown East lost to 3 teams this past year… Nport, Smithtown West, and Ward Melville. Each of these teams has elite fogos. Weird…

WI did not lose a major attackman he is a good player but nothing that is going to move the needle , Good Luck at ST A ..... just a heads up if you did not play at WI what makes you think you will play at ST A ...... time to move on from this

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

I believe that most school districts require that a posting be placed If not on job boards at least on their website. I know our school district and the district my wife works in they must publicly post all jobs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

I believe that most school districts require that a posting be placed If not on job boards at least on their website. I know our school district and the district my wife works in they must publicly post all jobs

Many schools do not require a public post. Some also require internal posting before seeking outside candidates. Requirements vary widely by district. Typically the power schools process is controlled by boosters for better or worse.

FALSE , Coach left on his own. Better Opportunity . The problem is they need to find Coaches that are Committed . ITS THE KIDS THAT SUFFER , THATS THE SAD PART ..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FALSE , Coach left on his own. Better Opportunity . The problem is they need to find Coaches that are Committed . ITS THE KIDS THAT SUFFER , THATS THE SAD PART ..

So give the postion to the Assistants the tr prior or instead try to get more qualified coach ?

that would make sense . From what i heard all the coaches were brand new. Never coached Varsity before. Hopefully the do right by the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

I believe that most school districts require that a posting be placed If not on job boards at least on their website. I know our school district and the district my wife works in they must publicly post all jobs

Districts must hire from within first, so the social studies teacher with no lacrosse experience must be given the job if he wants it. After that, must be a certified coach. LI teachers unions RUN the schools, never mind the BOE or PTA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

I believe that most school districts require that a posting be placed If not on job boards at least on their website. I know our school district and the district my wife works in they must publicly post all jobs

Many schools do not require a public post. Some also require internal posting before seeking outside candidates. Requirements vary widely by district. Typically the power schools process is controlled by boosters for better or worse.

This is completely false, the "boosters" have nothing to do with it, sorry but this isn't Friday Night Lights, this is Long Island, and boosters mean nothing.

Any open HS coaching Postions anyone know of ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any open HS coaching Postions anyone know of ?

Massapequa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any open HS coaching Postions anyone know of ?

Sachem East, but may have been filled by a JV coach.

Any good affordable shooting clinics left on Li . Used to be alot more . Not looking to spend more than $60 plus an hour . Thank you

North Shore HS is looking for a varsity assistant (to be hands on) and JV Head Coach and assistant. School has posted publicly and looking out of district. If anyone knows of someone who may be interested please reply with your cell and I will contact you. NS has a strong group of 27/28/29/ and 30's coming up to middle school / JV level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WI did not lose a major attackman he is a good player but nothing that is going to move the needle , Good Luck at ST A ..... just a heads up if you did not play at WI what makes you think you will play at ST A ...... time to move on from this

Just too small… and the choice was small minded.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a High School is looking for a Head Coach position
should the school post it out to the public for opening and
try to get the best available or sneaky quiet sliding someone in the spot ??

I believe that most school districts require that a posting be placed If not on job boards at least on their website. I know our school district and the district my wife works in they must publicly post all jobs

Districts must hire from within first, so the social studies teacher with no lacrosse experience must be given the job if he wants it. After that, must be a certified coach. LI teachers unions RUN the schools, never mind the BOE or PTA.

I unfortunately have to agree. We have coaches at our hs with ZERO coaching knowledge coaching at the varsity just because they are district teachers. They have no qualifications and no playing experience. Some are good people but have no idea what they're doing. This isn't just a casual observation, I've spoken to the AD and he said his hands are tied because of the policies.

Who are the favorites in Suffolk? Sinai has dropped out of the conversation. SWR’s attack will keep them in most games, but rest of team very mediocre. WI very average last year. Expect same this year. Comesewogue will be above average again. WM will be very competitive. BBP solid but no fogo again this year. The Smithtowns don’t have the horses to run with the big dawgs. Northport? Suffolk looks wide open to me.

Pequa or the Dale in Nassau Conference 1 who do you got?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa or the Dale in Nassau Conference 1 who do you got?

who cares

Port

Pequa or the Dale in Nassau Conference 1 who do you got?

who cares

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess the person that asked the question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the favorites in Suffolk? Sinai has dropped out of the conversation. SWR’s attack will keep them in most games, but rest of team very mediocre. WI very average last year. Expect same this year. Comesewogue will be above average again. WM will be very competitive. BBP solid but no fogo again this year. The Smithtowns don’t have the horses to run with the big dawgs. Northport? Suffolk looks wide open to me.

Top 3 teams this upcoming year in Suffolk A seem to be Northport, Ward Melville, and Huntington. What top teams are in Nassau A?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the favorites in Suffolk? Sinai has dropped out of the conversation. SWR’s attack will keep them in most games, but rest of team very mediocre. WI very average last year. Expect same this year. Comesewogue will be above average again. WM will be very competitive. BBP solid but no fogo again this year. The Smithtowns don’t have the horses to run with the big dawgs. Northport? Suffolk looks wide open to me.

Top 3 teams this upcoming year in Suffolk A seem to be Northport, Ward Melville, and Huntington. What top teams are in Nassau A?

“A”?? Bro, who cares about “A”. Substandard teams. Best teams have been in “C” for years! Not even arguable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the favorites in Suffolk? Sinai has dropped out of the conversation. SWR’s attack will keep them in most games, but rest of team very mediocre. WI very average last year. Expect same this year. Comesewogue will be above average again. WM will be very competitive. BBP solid but no fogo again this year. The Smithtowns don’t have the horses to run with the big dawgs. Northport? Suffolk looks wide open to me.

Top 3 teams this upcoming year in Suffolk A seem to be Northport, Ward Melville, and Huntington. What top teams are in Nassau A?

“A”?? Bro, who cares about “A”. Substandard teams. Best teams have been in “C” for years! Not even arguable.

I believe it was an honest question about Nassau A "Bro".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa or the Dale in Nassau Conference 1 who do you got?

who cares

Dalers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pequa or the Dale in Nassau Conference 1 who do you got?

who cares

Dalers

Good call

What’s up with the LILJ all Long Island games? Any talent going to be there or just another Money grab?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s up with the LILJ all Long Island games? Any talent going to be there or just another Money grab?

Lots of football players still in playoffs. Don’t expect to see much.

question- outside of the well known events "Maverick, Juniors Open, main stage etc" did anyone out there have positive or negative experience with events like Future Phenoms, Lacrosse Masters etc meaning a more boutique style of event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question- outside of the well known events "Maverick, Juniors Open, main stage etc" did anyone out there have positive or negative experience with events like Future Phenoms, Lacrosse Masters etc meaning a more boutique style of event

Main Stage is 100% rigged by Club Coaches. STAY AWAY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question- outside of the well known events "Maverick, Juniors Open, main stage etc" did anyone out there have positive or negative experience with events like Future Phenoms, Lacrosse Masters etc meaning a more boutique style of event

Main Stage is 100% rigged by Club Coaches. STAY AWAY

Maverick is rigged as well. Players that didn't attend the showcase and got on All Star roster. What a JOKE

Where can I find the pre season seedings for the 22/23 lax season? I know section 8 is out, where can I find them? thanks

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I find the pre season seedings for the 22/23 lax season? I know section 8 is out, where can I find them? thanks

Where did you see sect 8??

Massapequa has 4 just saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa has 4 just saying

GC has 7 D1 commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Heard West Islip has 2 D1’s? Guess the Gallose years are officially over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Heard West Islip has 2 D1’s? Guess the Gallose years are officially over.

Suffolk County has more than Nassau

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Heard West Islip has 2 D1’s? Guess the Gallose years are officially over.

Suffolk County has more than Nassau

Correct. Not even close. Other than Manhasset and GC, Nassau has basically none. Suffolk has several teams with 7 or more.

Manhasset, GC, Farmingdale and Massapequa top 4 teams in Nassau this year. Big gap between these 4 and any others.

Suffolk A looks nasty good this year.

Does anyone have scores from the Big 16 event at Cantiague Park yesterday that they can share? Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset, GC, Farmingdale and Massapequa top 4 teams in Nassau this year. Big gap between these 4 and any others.

CSH would say differently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset, GC, Farmingdale and Massapequa top 4 teams in Nassau this year. Big gap between these 4 and any others.

CSH would say differently.

With a total of 2 whole D1 recruits, I think CSH will refrain from all forms of communication this year. And probably next.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A looks nasty good this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A looks nasty good this year.

Top teams in Suffolk are all in C again this year. SWR, Bayport, Sinai all have 8 D1 committs. Based on D1’s, top teams on LI will be those 3 teams and Manhasset. Then GC and WM. After that, big drop off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A looks nasty good this year.

Which Suffolk A teams are “nasty”?

This sounds like it should be a private conversation between to pompous fathers from CSH and Manhasset. You guys are actually researching how many D1 commits each school has???WOW! Thought all this BS ended in Middle School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This sounds like it should be a private conversation between to pompous fathers from CSH and Manhasset. You guys are actually researching how many D1 commits each school has???WOW! Thought all this BS ended in Middle School

Sounds like yet another bad year for somebody’s kid. Thinking you’d be use to it by now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This sounds like it should be a private conversation between to pompous fathers from CSH and Manhasset. You guys are actually researching how many D1 commits each school has???WOW! Thought all this BS ended in Middle School

Sounds like yet another bad year for somebody’s kid. Thinking you’d be use to it by now.

Yup. Another looooong season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

Port Washington in the mix?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Port Washington in the mix?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Port Washington in the mix?

No

1 hit wonder

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Port Washington in the mix?

No

1 hit wonder

Port lost their studs to graduation. Have very little left. Will struggle this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

Like Port, CHS lost all of their studs to graduation. They will be weak for foreseeable future (2 years, at minimum).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

Darien will drop significantly this year. Have a couple of studs this year, but no where near the depth of talent they had last year. Manhasset should beat them easily.

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Thanks for the news flash, JV attack-daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Thanks for the news flash, JV attack-daddy.

Nothing better than an excited StA attack daddy in November!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Thanks for the news flash, JV attack-daddy.

Nothing better than an excited StA attack daddy in November!

Lol. Let attack daddy know, nobody cares about JV anything. Come back and see us in three years.

hearing there is a student attackman joining this year

Oh yes! A transfer... Parents claim he is one of the best on LI.Must be true...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh yes! A transfer... Parents claim he is one of the best on LI.Must be true...

what age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Thanks for the news flash, JV attack-daddy.

STRONG LOL, if they were STRONG they be on Varsity. DIV 1 coaches want to see fresh/soph playing varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Many new faces for ST Ants JVA team this past weekend the ATTACK looks strong ......

Thanks for the news flash, JV attack-daddy.

STRONG LOL, if they were STRONG they be on Varsity. DIV 1 coaches want to see fresh/soph playing varsity.

I doesn't work that way with the Catholics. The force freshman on JV B, and sophomores on JV A. They have more kids playing, and the $$$ keeps on rolling in. By the time mom and dad realize their kid is never going to start on varsity, they've been at the school 2 years and stay.

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Tough one. I bet a lot of kids are in the same boat but don’t tell anyone. Good thing he is being honest with you about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Been there. I feel your pain. Our situation was a little different, but one of my sons got worn down and learned to dislike playing for several reasons that broke my heart. One of them was suffering a severe injury at 14 caused by a hold back 50 lbs heavier (no people, we don’t need to debate holdbacks now!). We’re a hard core lacrosse family, but I eventually gave him the out and he picked other sports back up and started new interests and seems happier. I don’t think your son is there yet. If he’s successful on the field and has friends on the teams, my guess is he will come around. I recommend telling him he made a commitment to his club team this year and you guys can re evaluate next summer. I’m guessing he turns around before then. Sounds like he’s having an adjustment period - freshman year is tough. He will learn that he can have fun socially and still play lacrosse. You guys got this!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Been there. I feel your pain. Our situation was a little different, but one of my sons got worn down and learned to dislike playing for several reasons that broke my heart. One of them was suffering a severe injury at 14 caused by a hold back 50 lbs heavier (no people, we don’t need to debate holdbacks now!). We’re a hard core lacrosse family, but I eventually gave him the out and he picked other sports back up and started new interests and seems happier. I don’t think your son is there yet. If he’s successful on the field and has friends on the teams, my guess is he will come around. I recommend telling him he made a commitment to his club team this year and you guys can re evaluate next summer. I’m guessing he turns around before then. Sounds like he’s having an adjustment period - freshman year is tough. He will learn that he can have fun socially and still play lacrosse. You guys got this!

Thank you! Appreciate you sharing your son’s situation and your advice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Been there. I feel your pain. Our situation was a little different, but one of my sons got worn down and learned to dislike playing for several reasons that broke my heart. One of them was suffering a severe injury at 14 caused by a hold back 50 lbs heavier (no people, we don’t need to debate holdbacks now!). We’re a hard core lacrosse family, but I eventually gave him the out and he picked other sports back up and started new interests and seems happier. I don’t think your son is there yet. If he’s successful on the field and has friends on the teams, my guess is he will come around. I recommend telling him he made a commitment to his club team this year and you guys can re evaluate next summer. I’m guessing he turns around before then. Sounds like he’s having an adjustment period - freshman year is tough. He will learn that he can have fun socially and still play lacrosse. You guys got this!

I’m Not the original poster but so refreshing to hear great advice without sarcasm on this site. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Been there. I feel your pain. Our situation was a little different, but one of my sons got worn down and learned to dislike playing for several reasons that broke my heart. One of them was suffering a severe injury at 14 caused by a hold back 50 lbs heavier (no people, we don’t need to debate holdbacks now!). We’re a hard core lacrosse family, but I eventually gave him the out and he picked other sports back up and started new interests and seems happier. I don’t think your son is there yet. If he’s successful on the field and has friends on the teams, my guess is he will come around. I recommend telling him he made a commitment to his club team this year and you guys can re evaluate next summer. I’m guessing he turns around before then. Sounds like he’s having an adjustment period - freshman year is tough. He will learn that he can have fun socially and still play lacrosse. You guys got this!

Good post. I'll add that being a freshman on varsity is tough. Especially on a competitive team. Our experience was some of the older players who didn't make the cut when they were freshman can be resentful, especially the ones who still don't play. It will get better when he's a sophomore. Stay the course.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

Been there. I feel your pain. Our situation was a little different, but one of my sons got worn down and learned to dislike playing for several reasons that broke my heart. One of them was suffering a severe injury at 14 caused by a hold back 50 lbs heavier (no people, we don’t need to debate holdbacks now!). We’re a hard core lacrosse family, but I eventually gave him the out and he picked other sports back up and started new interests and seems happier. I don’t think your son is there yet. If he’s successful on the field and has friends on the teams, my guess is he will come around. I recommend telling him he made a commitment to his club team this year and you guys can re evaluate next summer. I’m guessing he turns around before then. Sounds like he’s having an adjustment period - freshman year is tough. He will learn that he can have fun socially and still play lacrosse. You guys got this!

Thank you! Appreciate you sharing your son’s situation and your advice.

We had a similar experience with our older son. It’s important to keep communication open. How he feels now may be different In a year or it may be the same. Don’t force it. Our son took a year off from playing He came back to the game and is now in college. He is playing D3 and loving school. That’s the key. He loves the school . The biggest take away he had was that Lacrosse was not everything and it did not define him. He put so much pressure on himself that it became a job instead of a game. It’s now just a game that he enjoys.
When or if your son steps away it’s important to ask questions about lacrosse, if they miss any any aspects of it. If there are things they can find in other activities that can replace what they miss. Most athletes are very competitive by nature. Something needs to fill that void. In the end, it’s all about making sure your son is happy. Good luck

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

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So my son started as a soph , junior and obviously will start his senior year. He was committed to a top 15 D-1 school, right before signing day he de-committed and told my wife and I I'm done, I don't want to play in college. He just wants to finish out his senior year with his friends and hopefully win something with them. He told us he is burnt, tired of lax and doesn't want the full time commitment in college. he wants to focus on school, it killed me and my wife but its what he wants. All I can say is cherish the moments you have watching them play it goes fast, heartbroken as a parent is an understatement but its getting a little easier lol. Good luck to all the boys in school this year and the ones that are going on to play in college.

Any advice for parents of a 7th grader to avoid my kid getting burnt out?

My kid is a football, hoops, and lax defender, but lax is his best sport. There's always pressure to do more lax to keep up with the other kids. I'm wondering if it would be a mistake for him to quit hoops to play more lax in the winter (which he was considering this year). Not sure if the multi-sport approach fights off the lax burn out, but I'm hoping so.

I appreciate all of you sharing your stories.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any advice for parents of a 7th grader to avoid my kid getting burnt out?

My kid is a football, hoops, and lax defender, but lax is his best sport. There's always pressure to do more lax to keep up with the other kids. I'm wondering if it would be a mistake for him to quit hoops to play more lax in the winter (which he was considering this year). Not sure if the multi-sport approach fights off the lax burn out, but I'm hoping so.

I appreciate all of you sharing your stories.

Speak with him and be honest. Most of all he needs to be honest with himself. He needs to do what makes him happy. A Happy Child will be successful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interested in hearing from others who have experienced this…my 9th grade son is getting burnt out on lacrosse. He is a good to very good player and has success on the field, gets plenty of playing time and has lots of friends on club and HS team. Probably will start varsity as a 10th grader at a very good NY public HS. He says it is stressful especially now that he and his friends are talking about college. I’m telling him it’s too early to stress about college and just have fun. He said it just isn’t that fun for him right now. Part of me wants to tell him to do what he wants and if wants to quit that is fine with me. The other part of me wants to make him play in HS because I think he will regret it in the future if he quits. And also because I don’t think a 14 year old will always make the right decision about his future. He knows that lacrosse will give him more options when it comes to college and he will likely get into a better school than he would without it. I told him we can reevaluate after he finishes his freshman season. Also, he has no other hobbies or extra curricular interests and he recently quit other sports to focus on lacrosse. He is getting into girls and parties and I’m sure that is part of the picture. Would love any input and please try to resist the urge to post troll responses. Thanks!

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So my son started as a soph , junior and obviously will start his senior year. He was committed to a top 15 D-1 school, right before signing day he de-committed and told my wife and I I'm done, I don't want to play in college. He just wants to finish out his senior year with his friends and hopefully win something with them. He told us he is burnt, tired of lax and doesn't want the full time commitment in college. he wants to focus on school, it killed me and my wife but its what he wants. All I can say is cherish the moments you have watching them play it goes fast, heartbroken as a parent is an understatement but its getting a little easier lol. Good luck to all the boys in school this year and the ones that are going on to play in college.

Wow, lax dad, that’s a rough one. So sorry! How awesome of you and your wife to support your son’s decision, which I’m sure was tough to do. At least you experienced that awesome achievement! And I’m sure you will experience more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any advice for parents of a 7th grader to avoid my kid getting burnt out?

My kid is a football, hoops, and lax defender, but lax is his best sport. There's always pressure to do more lax to keep up with the other kids. I'm wondering if it would be a mistake for him to quit hoops to play more lax in the winter (which he was considering this year). Not sure if the multi-sport approach fights off the lax burn out, but I'm hoping so.

I appreciate all of you sharing your stories.

Personal opinion. Quitting basketball to play lacrosse in the winter would probably accelerate the burnout risk.
I am a huge advocate for playing multiple sports. For one reason, while it isn't "rest" you are using different muscles/movements in other sports so overuse in cut back a little bit. And there are skills that are picked up in other sports that can be applied back to lacrosse.

My advice is don't feel the pressure to keep up with anyone besides what your son is looking to do....especially during middle school years. It's OK to take a full offseason from a sport -- your son won't be as far behind everyone else as you'd think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any advice for parents of a 7th grader to avoid my kid getting burnt out?

My kid is a football, hoops, and lax defender, but lax is his best sport. There's always pressure to do more lax to keep up with the other kids. I'm wondering if it would be a mistake for him to quit hoops to play more lax in the winter (which he was considering this year). Not sure if the multi-sport approach fights off the lax burn out, but I'm hoping so.

I appreciate all of you sharing your stories.

I think most of us have been in same situation. Ultimately, I let my son do whatever he wanted to do. And it’s worked out great, when I wasn’t sure that it would. Couple things you have to consider. How good is your son at lax and how far does he want to take lacrosse. If you think he’s average and will ultimately be an average player, then multi sports route is fine. But if he has serious potential to be elite, and he has the drive to get there, then missing lax will likely put him behind. At the end of the day, let him do what he wants to do. The only way he will be successful is for him to do it for himself. My son was always a top player in lax, football and basketball. When he hit HS, he dropped football and basketball and focused only on lax. I didn’t like this direction, but I felt strongly that he needs to do what he is happy doing. That means, let him make the decisions. Long story short, he got offers from almost every top D1 team out there and is going to a top D1 school for nothing. Again, my advise to you is, let your son make the decision.

Top 10 teams in Nassau for 2023 season:
1- Chaminade
2- Manhasset
3- Garden City
4- Massapequa
5- Port Washington
6- Wantagh
7- Cold Spring Harbor
8- Plainedge
9- Lynbrook
10- Kellenberg

forgot Southside.
They should be listed after Garden City. Stacked this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10 teams in Nassau for 2023 season:
1- Chaminade
2- Manhasset
3- Garden City
4- Massapequa
5- Port Washington
6- Wantagh
7- Cold Spring Harbor
8- Plainedge
9- Lynbrook
10- Kellenberg

Not going to argue about the top 4. 5-10 can be very different. I believe Farmingdale belongs in there, Probably ahead of Port. South side should be somewhere between 7-9. I would even put Calhoun around 10.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10 teams in Nassau for 2023 season:
1- Chaminade
2- Manhasset
3- Garden City
4- Massapequa
5- Port Washington
6- Wantagh
7- Cold Spring Harbor
8- Plainedge
9- Lynbrook
10- Kellenberg

Publics and privates should never be in the same rankings. Different rules, not apples to apples.

Agree about Farmingdale. Need to be in top 10. Calhoun also strong but think they are outside above list

Without Catholics.
1- Sett
2- GC
3- Pequa
4- Southside
5- Wantagh
6- Farmingdale
7- Port
8- CSH
9- Lynbrook
10- Plainedge

Based on the # of college commits, what are the top 10 teams this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on the # of college commits, what are the top 10 teams this year?

Just checked IL. Very few teams have 5 or more commits.

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

Yes.

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Jokes on you, Copiague probably won't field a team again this year. There are very few missed players now a days. Clubs will give scholarships for really good kids, so money isn't a problem. The top kids will have their choice of most all schools initially and then everything gets whittled down. Enjoy the ride. Mine ends at the end of this HS season. My son chose the better school over playing. I wasn't planning on it ending this soon, but he made the right choice for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Tell me, how big is lacrosse “nationally”? Is it bigger than girls softball? What about volleyball? ESPN gives more exposure to spike ball. So very “high profile “

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I bet most kids in the same school as these "High Profile" lax players don't even know who they are. Go to your sons(AKA the next Rabil) school and randomly ask kids if they know he is. I think you would be in for a surprise. Might deflate your head a bit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I bet most kids in the same school as these "High Profile" lax players don't even know who they are. Go to your sons(AKA the next Rabil) school and randomly ask kids if they know he is. I think you would be in for a surprise. Might deflate your head a bit.

A couple of them can be seen wearing their sponsored red helmets…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Seriously. No where in this thread did it state that anyone was getting rich. Please reread the post and do your best to stay on topic. Geeesh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Seriously. No where in this thread did it state that anyone was getting rich. Please reread the post and do your best to stay on topic. Geeesh.

And yet HS football and basketball players in HS are getting substantial money. College players getting millions. College lacrosse players getting a ham sandwich. It’s not a new phenomenon by the way, it’s been around for a bit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Seriously. No where in this thread did it state that anyone was getting rich. Please reread the post and do your best to stay on topic. Geeesh.

And yet HS football and basketball players in HS are getting substantial money. College players getting millions. College lacrosse players getting a ham sandwich. It’s not a new phenomenon by the way, it’s been around for a bit.

College lacrosse players are now getting meaningful NIL money. 10k-20k per year and more. Google it. It’s changing recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

What are you talking about Manhasset going undefeated ?? Besides fogo you graduated all your good offensive players. 2024 class not so good.

8 D-1 current players are mainly offensive players

Manhasset also dropped down a division to win a championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset also dropped down a division to win a championship

You know that's not how it works right? Division is based on school population...has nothing to do with trying to win championships.

He definitely doesn’t know with an absurd statement like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset, GC, Farmingdale and Massapequa top 4 teams in Nassau this year. Big gap between these 4 and any others.

This is more realistic GC, Southside, Farmingdale, Manhasset, Pequa. then your gap.

Pequa should run threw Nassau Conference 1. i think Fdale is there only challenge. There only weakness is at Fogo, however they have a junior showing promise. if the kid can can go 50% or better they will be ok. They have by far the best middies a solid LSM and a good D and Atatck. Will See.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset also dropped down a division to win a championship

You know that's not how it works right? Division is based on school population...has nothing to do with trying to win championships.

Exactly! Stunnads have no idea how the schools are grouped. Look it up on Section 8 website. It's also not an fair comparison to say a school with 1000 kids has a better team than a school of 600. I would hope they do. Geography, demographics, population and traditional sports in those towns play a big part of it as well. Some schools that dominated in the 80's and 90's can barely field teams anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

What are you talking about Manhasset going undefeated ?? Besides fogo you graduated all your good offensive players. 2024 class not so good.

Don't count them out, hear they're calling up a few PAL kids to make up for the lost production. You heard it here first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious. How many D1 commits do the top public schools have? Looking for team specific numbers, if possible.

Massapequa has 3 and Farmingdale has 4. Dalers going all the way this year.

Manhasset has 8 D1’s. Beat that!

Manhasset going undefeated this year. Only team on LI that can beat them is St. A’s.

Other teams that they historically play who might beat them this coming year: Chaminade, Garden City, Darien, Cold Spring Harbor.

What are you talking about Manhasset going undefeated ?? Besides fogo you graduated all your good offensive players. 2024 class not so good.

Don't count them out, hear they're calling up a few PAL kids to make up for the lost production. You heard it here first

Manhasset kids posting on here is good fun...learned from their daddies and mommys who have been trolling these pages for years. Even CSH doesn't do it as much!

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Expensive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Good way to keep the stick in the hands and play competitive games prior to spring but they should have an A and B division so less blowouts. Live stream is great, commentary needs improvement. Playoffs on a holiday weekend also not the best idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Good way to keep the stick in the hands and play competitive games prior to spring but they should have an A and B division so less blowouts. Live stream is great, commentary needs improvement. Playoffs on a holiday weekend also not the best idea.

Agreed, how about a 516 and 631 league with JV and Varsity? Can't listen to these two talk about the next coming to Jim Brown as he is playing against a 9th grader from Yaphank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Good way to keep the stick in the hands and play competitive games prior to spring but they should have an A and B division so less blowouts. Live stream is great, commentary needs improvement. Playoffs on a holiday weekend also not the best idea.

Agreed, how about a 516 and 631 league with JV and Varsity? Can't listen to these two talk about the next coming to Jim Brown as he is playing against a 9th grader from Yaphank.

Guess you never heard about the volume button. It’s great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Lots of fun. Everybody enjoyed the competition with very good teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"High Profile" high school lacrosse players. LOL. Guess I will see them on ESPN tomorrow morning. Right up there next to Lebron James kids highlights. Hope your kid scores 10 against Copiague High School this year to keep his profile up.

Appreciate the standard BOTC “anonymous” sarcasm. High profile kids are players that are committed to high level D1 programs, who are well known at the high school level.

You mean in Long Island? Because that’s as big as their profile.

No. I meant “on” Long Island. However, a lot of players on LI have profiles that are national in scope. There are several LI club teams that are among the very best in the nation, if not “the” best. Naturally these teams have LI players, committed to premier D1 programs, that have national recognition. This is news to you???

There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Seriously. No where in this thread did it state that anyone was getting rich. Please reread the post and do your best to stay on topic. Geeesh.

And yet HS football and basketball players in HS are getting substantial money. College players getting millions. College lacrosse players getting a ham sandwich. It’s not a new phenomenon by the way, it’s been around for a bit.

College lacrosse players are now getting meaningful NIL money. 10k-20k per year and more. Google it. It’s changing recruiting.

Correct.Some teams taking full advantage of it, while others don’t even touch it. With NIL $’s, the coaches are no longer limited by the 12.5 scholarships per team. It’s a total game changer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

They are all taking money for rankings in one way or another LILJ, NLF, USCL, IL, you name it.

LILJ is the absolute worst especially for boys ....they don't watch and evaluate anyone . I have seen it firsthand . Waste of time and money . Not sure how they handle girls but for the boys it's complete nonsense and a waste of time .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

The IL ranking does NOT matter one bit to a college coach. Lmao.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

The IL ranking does NOT matter one bit to a college coach. Lmao.

Completely disagree. Rankings matter for exposure and so does the club your son plays for. And the NLF rankings always seem to be tilted. For example, if the best player in the class did not play for an NLF club, would he be the #1 in the NLF rankings? He would be in In the Inside Lacrosse rankings. Yes they cover Maryland a lot more, but they are at least club agnostic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

The IL ranking does NOT matter one bit to a college coach. Lmao.

Unfortunately that’s a wrong take. Having a relative who is an AD Assistant, I asked this exact question and the response was rankings/stars matter. It doesn’t matter from the perspective of performance when the team is winning (and maybe to the coach who sees the player first hand) but when not winning the first question asked is are you getting the top players or comparable players at comparable schools and the AD’s in all sports use rankings and stars. For them it is virtually impossible to be on top of every sport and every player their team brings in so when they are playing mediocre or not up to expectations the question being asked to coaches is what are the rankings of the players being brought in or how many stars. They ADs need a comparison to see why x team is successful and why they are not. Again, we all know that stars are not indicative performance just like an SAT score is not indicative of academic performance but at the end of the day ADs want results and winning teams and when they are not they look to rankings and stars as an potential indicator of why. Just reporting an answer to a question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Agreed with most but one "assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators" to much weights on these two shoulders.

if a player is not ranked for whatever reason, is it still possible to get recruited by a top school should he or she be good enough? lets be honest here , many many many of these kids that get ranked are not the end all be ALL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Agreed with most but one "assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators" to much weights on these two shoulders.

You guys are getting lacrosse confused with a big 4 sport like football . NIL dollars ? High paying jobs after school ? Hahaha....delusional . I will tell you first hand that a friend of mine helped a kid from the town he lives in get an interview after school, kid graduated from a too D1 school. Didn't make it last the first round of interviews because when they asked him what he did in school he said " I played lacrosse'....bye, bye . Next is what they said . Lacrosse is doing nothing for a kid after school so stop the nonsense. And NIL money lol.....the sport probably costs D1 schools more money than it takes in . You're forgetting that they can't even pack half of a stadium even on the professional level so NIL money? Give me a break

Totally agree, NIL money is a pipe dream. You will be lucky to get a few free heads/sticks with any NIL deal. If you really want to help your kid out, make sure they get good grades. My 2023 had a great full tuition offer at a top 20 school, with a combination of academic and athletic aid. The academic award was 16K more than the athletic, leaving us with room/board to cover. More than anything else, kids with good grades (+3.5 GPA) will be the real winners.
We have all spent boatloads of $$$ on our kids travel teams, don’t fool yourself that this is more than an end game of playing 4 years in college while getting a good deal to attend a decent university. As much as I love the sport, Nobody is getting rich playing lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Agreed with most but one "assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators" to much weights on these two shoulders.

You guys are getting lacrosse confused with a big 4 sport like football . NIL dollars ? High paying jobs after school ? Hahaha....delusional . I will tell you first hand that a friend of mine helped a kid from the town he lives in get an interview after school, kid graduated from a too D1 school. Didn't make it last the first round of interviews because when they asked him what he did in school he said " I played lacrosse'....bye, bye . Next is what they said . Lacrosse is doing nothing for a kid after school so stop the nonsense. And NIL money lol.....the sport probably costs D1 schools more money than it takes in . You're forgetting that they can't even pack half of a stadium even on the professional level so NIL money? Give me a break

If you believe doors are not opening for kids after they graduate because they played lacrosse you have no idea what your talking about. I will tell you first hand lax players get opportunities because they played in college.

------ "You guys are getting lacrosse confused with a big 4 sport like football . NIL dollars ? High paying jobs after school ? Hahaha....delusional . I will tell you first hand that a friend of mine helped a kid from the town he lives in get an interview after school, kid graduated from a too D1 school. Didn't make it last the first round of interviews because when they asked him what he did in school he said " I played lacrosse'....bye, bye . Next is what they said . Lacrosse is doing nothing for a kid after school so stop the nonsense. And NIL money lol.....the sport probably costs D1 schools more money than it takes in . You're forgetting that they can't even pack half of a stadium even on the professional level so NIL money? Give me a break" --------

The above post is one of the most ignorant ever to be posted on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Agreed with most but one "assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators" to much weights on these two shoulders.

You guys are getting lacrosse confused with a big 4 sport like football . NIL dollars ? High paying jobs after school ? Hahaha....delusional . I will tell you first hand that a friend of mine helped a kid from the town he lives in get an interview after school, kid graduated from a too D1 school. Didn't make it last the first round of interviews because when they asked him what he did in school he said " I played lacrosse'....bye, bye . Next is what they said . Lacrosse is doing nothing for a kid after school so stop the nonsense. And NIL money lol.....the sport probably costs D1 schools more money than it takes in . You're forgetting that they can't even pack half of a stadium even on the professional level so NIL money? Give me a break

Disagree here- Saying you played D1 lacrosse in the right context shows incredible character and work ethic. The kid went to a top school and worked a full time job that required him to balance his time, challenge his mind and body while delivering every day. Sounds like a decent young candidate with a proven ability to deliver under pressure to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IL doesn't seem to know who is committed. My kids club team has a ton of committed kids. IL shows about 25% of who is committed.

I’m familiar with a few of the top HS teams and top 2024 club teams on LI. IL has missed no commits on any of the 2024 club teams. IL is only missing one commit regarding all the HS teams that I have knowledge of. And that player isn’t what you’d call “top tier”, so my guess is they may miss “lower profile” players. Doubt they miss any higher profile kids. Does that make sense, based on your experience?

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.

Agreed with most but one "assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators" to much weights on these two shoulders.

You guys are getting lacrosse confused with a big 4 sport like football . NIL dollars ? High paying jobs after school ? Hahaha....delusional . I will tell you first hand that a friend of mine helped a kid from the town he lives in get an interview after school, kid graduated from a too D1 school. Didn't make it last the first round of interviews because when they asked him what he did in school he said " I played lacrosse'....bye, bye . Next is what they said . Lacrosse is doing nothing for a kid after school so stop the nonsense. And NIL money lol.....the sport probably costs D1 schools more money than it takes in . You're forgetting that they can't even pack half of a stadium even on the professional level so NIL money? Give me a break

Disagree here- Saying you played D1 lacrosse in the right context shows incredible character and work ethic. The kid went to a top school and worked a full time job that required him to balance his time, challenge his mind and body while delivering every day. Sounds like a decent young candidate with a proven ability to deliver under pressure to me.

Incorrect ....you still need the grades . You can squeak into a school with kacroythsy you don't belong in grade wise but you can't fake it once you're out of school . If the ilgtafes aren't there nobody is taking a chance on you . Those be are the facts and I have seen it personally many times .