Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good coaches still need The Players to win. JS has been able to bring in some top talent. Couple the focus and support SBU has given their athletic program with JS's ability to sell and coach and you have a winning combination . Cost to attend SBU and the improved academics have also helped Stony Brook.

It is not only the ability to identify top talent but the ability to convince them to come to your school. There is no question that he is a really good coach but do not discount the favorable environment .

He has done what most coaches (outside the 10 or 12 top programs)
can not do and that is convince top talent to come. Some of you will want to argue but year in and year out it is the same 10 - 12 schools that land the large majority of top players.

Stony Brook is now in that group. Everyone else on the outside looking in taking the players that the big girls passed on.

Hofstra is in the same boat as the majority of schools.



You obviously have a kid committed to SB. No offense but they do not get the top recruits . JS gets the most out of the least but when was the last time SB had a recruiting class even good enough to be ranked , I think the answer is never. The top recruits rarely want to stay home and no college on LI can compare facility , campus or college spirit wise to many schools off the island.


Sorry, none of my kids are committed to SBU.

You, obviously have a difficult time with reading comprehension and you definitely have a tough time understanding that words have meaning.

Where did it say anything about ranked recruiting classes? The post did however say something about "it is not only the ability to identify Top Talent but the ability to convince them to come to your school".

JS can definitely identity top talent and he can obviously convince some of that talent to go to Stony Brook. Coaching can only get you so far. Coaches need the players to get the team to the elite level.

Most coaches can't do it. They can't get the top players. The talent doesn't run that deep and the best programs get the best kids. The combination of talent and coaching is what makes the best programs the best.










I credit JS fully for his own success. He does not land top talent, yet, but his program now has raised some eyebrows of the top upcoming recruits. He certainly doesn't spot top talent, what he does is even more impressive, he spots raw talent / athletic ability / heart, and finishes developing it. How often do you see that, but the other way around where the coach squanders the incoming players talents and they fade away. But even if he turns the program into a national championship winner, it will still be a sell to bring in the top talent. Take a coaches tour of one on the big schools, the support, facilities, trainers, academic support for athletes etc.... JS and SBU simply does not have what the others can offer and never will, which makes his ability to compete even more impressive.


He has absolutely been landing some top talent. They may not be the highly touted recruits but they are absolutely top talent and he identified them and was able to recruited them. As the earlier post stated, "Most coaches can't do it. They can't get the top talent". The top programs get the top kids and the other schools fight it out for the next tier players. It is tough to compete with the likes of Maryland, North Carolina, Florida, Penn State and Syracuse for the overall college experience and big time athletics. If a kid is really strong in the classroom its tough to compete with Princeton, Penn, Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins and Notre Dame. Throw in Virginia, USC and Boston College and you have 14 schools for the top players to choose from and for the most part whenever you look at IL Recruit Rankings or the UA Senior North South Game those are the schools that the top kids choose to go to.

Navy is a different animal.

Stanford will continue to improve and compete for top recruits.

Stony Brook has been able to crack a pretty impressive list of schools in terms of being able to land top talent. Notre Dame, Florida and a few others get called out for under performing (in relation to the caliber of player they are able to bring in) but in the end they always finish in the Top 20. I do not know if it will continue but the track record has been very good the past several years for Stony Brook. Going forward, I think Colorado, Stanford and maybe Oregon will all be competing for top talent as well.