So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).
NAL was age verified right? So wouldn’t those kids just have at worst summer birthday? Not like a holdback such as having a fall 2009 birthday.
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So how does that work for Fusions? I noticed on the roster that there are players that play on fusions and other high level teams. For example a player that is both on Fusions and Hawks. Is fusions a composite team of all stars and invites or a stable year round team? Are they a team carrying multiple holdbacks?This a serious question not looking to start BS convo.
Their two best offensive players are holdbacks (midfielder and left attack - actually both of their lefty attack are holdbacks, one just happens to be significantly better than the other).
NAL was age verified right? So wouldn’t those kids just have at worst summer birthday? Not like a holdback such as having a fall 2009 birthday.
NAL is age verified. Can't speak entirely to the roster of Futures this year but 85% of their kids also played in the World Series which is a Sept 1st cutoff.
The student lefty attack is a summer birthday, but was also a student lefty attack for the 2028 Duke's team. The midfielder supposedly is a June birthday, but there's a good bit of questionable activity around that birthdate. He was also a student for the 2028 Brotherly Love team. This is one of the nuanced areas around the holdback issue. It's the question of, what's more beneficial, the age or the age and an extra year of formal lacrosse training at a higher level than might be available to other kids. Regardless, these kids performed at a high level on age, then stayed back to have a leg up on other kids. Regardless of the outcomes in middle school, I can't imagine this truly benefits these kids. Ultimately, it is what it is. These are the kids our kids will be measured against.
The goalie missed the cut-off by a week for the World Series and I don't believe he's ever held back, but started school late. Can't be overstated how much better he is than the goalie they had at WS. And that World Series team benefitted from an easier bracket because of a higher ranking that should have gone to True Ches who beat them at the qualifier (not a True Ches parent). That world series team was very beatable, unlike the full squad. They're a good team without their holdbacks, but all but unbeatable with them. Again, it is what it is, but lets not forget these points when handing out flowers to Futures.
Their left attack and Midfielder played on the 2028 Brother Love team not because they are 2028 reclasses but because the 2029 Brotherly Love team is a hot mess. Many 2029 Philly Freedom kids actually play up on the 28 team for the same reason.
I think the issue lies in our definition of reclass. Technically, any summer birthday is a reclassed kid. My kid has been on a couple of teams over the years and based on Teamsnap birthdates, I would guess 40% of all HOCO elite rosters are populated with summer birthdays. I bet 90% are born between June 1 and Dec 31. Not quite Malcolm Gladwell's team distribution but there's a reason we don't see many 2011 birthdates on these 2029 rosters.
In regards to the WS, True Chesapeake was a hybrid TC, Hawks and ML team. Several of Futures WS players did not attend the qualifier weekend. Not saying they would have definitely beat TC/Hawks/ML in the WS but it would be a mistake to assume that outcome.
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