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The student lefty attack is a summer birthday, but was also a student lefty attack for the 2028 Duke's team. The midfielder supposedly is a June birthday, but there's a good bit of questionable activity around that birthdate. He was also a student for the 2028 Brotherly Love team. This is one of the nuanced areas around the holdback issue. It's the question of, what's more beneficial, the age or the age and an extra year of formal lacrosse training at a higher level than might be available to other kids. Regardless, these kids performed at a high level on age, then stayed back to have a leg up on other kids. Regardless of the outcomes in middle school, I can't imagine this truly benefits these kids. Ultimately, it is what it is. These are the kids our kids will be measured against.

The goalie missed the cut-off by a week for the World Series and I don't believe he's ever held back, but started school late. Can't be overstated how much better he is than the goalie they had at WS. And that World Series team benefitted from an easier bracket because of a higher ranking that should have gone to True Ches who beat them at the qualifier (not a True Ches parent). That world series team was very beatable, unlike the full squad. They're a good team without their holdbacks, but all but unbeatable with them. Again, it is what it is, but lets not forget these points when handing out flowers to Futures.

Don’t forget the losses all these kids were taking on their previous teams before this all star team was formed. I always remind their parents when they are acting like clowns. Shuts them up quick. Other then that, I enjoy watching my son play against this team and holding his own against these kids.

Their left attack and Midfielder played on the 2028 Brother Love team not because they are 2028 reclasses but because the 2029 Brotherly Love team is a hot mess. Many 2029 Philly Freedom kids actually play up on the 28 team for the same reason.

I think the issue lies in our definition of reclass. Technically, any summer birthday is a reclassed kid. My kid has been on a couple of teams over the years and based on Teamsnap birthdates, I would guess 40% of all HOCO elite rosters are populated with summer birthdays. I bet 90% are born between June 1 and Dec 31. Not quite Malcolm Gladwell's team distribution but there's a reason we don't see many 2011 birthdates on these 2029 rosters.

In regards to the WS, True Chesapeake was a hybrid TC, Hawks and ML team. Several of Futures WS players did not attend the qualifier weekend. Not saying they would have definitely beat TC/Hawks/ML in the WS but it would be a mistake to assume that outcome.

You know who else is also unbeatable at the 2029 level? Almost every 2028 team! Yeh if you hold back it’s a huge advantage. Despicable that people do this. They are cheaters, karma has its own rules.