Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to 7th Grade Boys (2029 Grads) for the Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Season.
I'll go first. What's your view on holdbacks?
Totally fine in high school but to do it before then for the purpose of sports is notIntelligent.
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
LI teams constantly travel. Maryland teams are the ones who never leave home. See the incessant HOCO league comments on this board. Now if they actually traveled and played kids their own age that would be a different thing. Don’t expect to see a Maryland team win the LWSC EVER. They don’t like to compete on a level playing field.
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
Resolute and TX Nationals both ran teams out there that would have multiple players not eligible due to age.
Prediction: being in Minnesota attracts less teams, not more.
Is LWSC age cutoff this year different from last year?
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
Resolute and TX Nationals both ran teams out there that would have multiple players not eligible due to age.
Prediction: being in Minnesota attracts less teams, not more.
Huge marketing mistake for the organization! Like the other person, said, LI teamsare constantly traveling. Travel this far and to a crappy location is ridiculous.
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
LI teams constantly travel. Maryland teams are the ones who never leave home. See the incessant HOCO league comments on this board. Now if they actually traveled and played kids their own age that would be a different thing. Don’t expect to see a Maryland team win the LWSC EVER. They don’t like to compete on a level playing field.
Best teams are in MD. Will travel, but 4 of the top 6 teams play in the HoCo league all spring. Come on down, more the merrier.
Confirmed LWSC is in MinnyNoPlace
Interesting. Maybe the intention is to build the Central qualifier as it only had 3 teams last spring. Would be good to see Resolute Columbus who won NLF, Texas Nationals, Juiced Cherries, Team IL, etc. God forbid LI folks have to leave the island.
LI teams constantly travel. Maryland teams are the ones who never leave home. See the incessant HOCO league comments on this board. Now if they actually traveled and played kids their own age that would be a different thing. Don’t expect to see a Maryland team win the LWSC EVER. They don’t like to compete on a level playing field.
Best teams are in MD. Will travel, but 4 of the top 6 teams play in the HoCo league all spring. Come on down, more the merrier.
What do those teams look like with a Sep 1 cutoff? And don’t forget the ‘28 parents lost their sh$t when True brought in rostered kids from non hotbed areas. So no, it isn’t the more the merrier.
Best youth teams are not in Maryland which is what the World Series proves year after year. You just have older kids. When you play on age it’s ugly. I’m sure hoco could pause their season for 4 days if anyone had the guts to show up but you won’t because you know you can’t handle kids your own age.
Best youth teams are not in Maryland which is what the World Series proves year after year. You just have older kids. When you play on age it’s ugly. I’m sure hoco could pause their season for 4 days if anyone had the guts to show up but you won’t because you know you can’t handle kids your own age.
This ^^
A lot of teams will not want to participate this year because of the location so more average club teams will qualify and go. Down year for World Series.
Colossal waste of money to go to Minnesota.
World series is not real teams anyways. Clubs scrounge to find anyone within a 100 mile radius who is eligible with their parent team not going and add them to the roster. They all look at the grade above within their own club to find out who is still age eligible and bring them along. Teams are put together under new monikers over night and a new team is born just for this event.
Put it to bed and let it be done for good.
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
A lot of teams will not want to participate this year because of the location so more average club teams will qualify and go. Down year for World Series.
Did anyone do vacationing in MD? Why does the location matter? You spend time at hotel, venue and field
More hold back parents or maybe teams that know they won’t qualify talk is all that is
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Sad but true
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
Exactly!! Everyone is tired of playing kids older even if they are following their own local school rules. Age based sports is the best. No one is impressed with your holdbacks, the Schellenberger, Spallina, and Millons of this wotld. They cheated for their own benefit and to the detriment of the kids they competed against in youth, H.S. and College. This is why the World Series is so popular with many people and why the location doesn’t stop teams from going.
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Respectfully, even if your kid is a superstar I doubt the World Series cares whether your kid plays. Others will take his spot.
Columbus Day looks like some good competition with Moose, Igloo, Legacy and Rebels Black
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
Exactly!! Everyone is tired of playing kids older even if they are following their own local school rules. Age based sports is the best. No one is impressed with your holdbacks, the Schellenberger, Spallina, and Millons of this wotld. They cheated for their own benefit and to the detriment of the kids they competed against in youth, H.S. and College. This is why the World Series is so popular with many people and why the location doesn’t stop teams from going.
So popular? Sweetheart, it’s kiddie lacrosse, no one cares but you and your husband
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
Exactly!! Everyone is tired of playing kids older even if they are following their own local school rules. Age based sports is the best. No one is impressed with your holdbacks, the Schellenberger, Spallina, and Millons of this wotld. They cheated for their own benefit and to the detriment of the kids they competed against in youth, H.S. and College. This is why the World Series is so popular with many people and why the location doesn’t stop teams from going.
So popular? Sweetheart, it’s kiddie lacrosse, no one cares but you and your husband
Holdback Dad, your kid can’t compete on age. Stay home and lick envelopes for Biden re-election campaign.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Lets see who legacy schedules its team against.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
After all these years it’s still the only on age tournament. There’s nothing wrong with someone being a fan. Say what you want about the new on age “requirements” touted by other organizations but I think it’s all lip service.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Holdback Dad
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
Exactly!! Everyone is tired of playing kids older even if they are following their own local school rules. Age based sports is the best. No one is impressed with your holdbacks, the Schellenberger, Spallina, and Millons of this wotld. They cheated for their own benefit and to the detriment of the kids they competed against in youth, H.S. and College. This is why the World Series is so popular with many people and why the location doesn’t stop teams from going.
So popular? Sweetheart, it’s kiddie lacrosse, no one cares but you and your husband
Holdback Dad, your kid can’t compete on age. Stay home and lick envelopes for Biden re-election campaign.
No problem mom, keep crying and complaining about kiddie lacrosse it’s a perfect fit for you. Whiny little woman.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
Lets see who legacy schedules its team against.
Wrong thread, bud
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
“If your kid can’t hang with on age kids, he has no shot at success at this sport.”
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Justify cheating. .
Airfare to Minnesota: $1300 round trip for 2 people
4-5 nights in hotel: $1000+
Rental car: $500
Food: $500-$1000 for 2 depending on where you eat.
Extra tournament tuition: $400 per player
World Series Banquet: at least $100 for 1 parent ticket and cash bar
Add another parent or sibling: do the math
Enjoy your carribean vacation in Minnesota
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Justify cheating. .
How’s it cheating? It’s allowed. It’s actually encouraged.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Anyone else want to tell him??
Dude your older kid plays with younger kids and you are preaching about kids should play older kids. Smh
Airfare to Minnesota: $1300 round trip for 2 people
4-5 nights in hotel: $1000+
Rental car: $500
Food: $500-$1000 for 2 depending on where you eat.
Extra tournament tuition: $400 per player
World Series Banquet: at least $100 for 1 parent ticket and cash bar
Add another parent or sibling: do the math
Enjoy your carribean vacation in Minnesota
Much preferable to Philly or Baltimore.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Anyone else want to tell him??
Dude your older kid plays with younger kids and you are preaching about kids should play older kids. Smh
Apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong point, SMH
Your kid getting to play against kids his own age for once…… Priceless!!
OFF POINT. anyone that comes on here and corrects grammar or reading comprehension, really has no life.
I type and I send, not always perfect, but again who cares.
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I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Anyone else want to tell him??
Dude your older kid plays with younger kids and you are preaching about kids should play older kids. Smh
Apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong point, SMH
So your son is going to lose all of the skills he's developed
over the years playing against older kids when he plays a 3
day tournament against kids his own age?
More likely you're a holdback Dad that wants to crush
everyone else's good time or your a Dad of a kid whose
team that has little chance of qualifying.
I can’t believe anyone is actually arguing in favor of the world series. Must be one of the Range Rover parents.
Most parents of a competitive on age kid.
We’re not following your logic, help us understand why you wouldn’t be in favor of a World Series tournament?
Because his kid loses his age advantage that he’s enjoyed for years. When he has to play with kids his own age he can’t hang.
If your kid can’t hang with an older kid, he has no shot at success at this sport. Older kids playing best thing to ever happen to my kid. Sharpen skills and built confidence.
Anyone else want to tell him??
Dude your older kid plays with younger kids and you are preaching about kids should play older kids. Smh
Apparently reading comprehension isn’t your strong point, SMH
So your son is going to lose all of the skills he's developed
over the years playing against older kids when he plays a 3
day tournament against kids his own age?
More likely you're a holdback Dad that wants to crush
everyone else's good time or your a Dad of a kid whose
team that has little chance of qualifying.
Dude, your kid is simply a bad lacrosse player. That’s the only people who complain about holdbacks. Sorry, try deck hockey, I’m sure he’ll be great at that. Leave lacrosse to the athletes.
The athletes that can only compete if they play kids younger? Lol you peaked in Middle School didn’t you. That’s why you held your kid back. It won’t work.
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
point has been made
more points to follow
Will there be as many North qualifiers this year as last? How does that even work?
Sounds like teams are dropping out. Less to worry about
Will there be as many North qualifiers this year as last? How does that even work?
will be some unexpected qualifiers this year
multiple big name teams opting to not attend, with a huge surprise as to who the first team is who pulled the plug
No big teams have dropped out.
What teams have dropped out?
No big teams have dropped out.
Yes they have
Kids were told last night. Ask around. It’s the one team you would never expect to drop it.
Holdbacks are just a reflection of those pathetic parents who live vicariously through their kid. If your kid is such a student, have him play up a year (or two).
Opting out because they know the competition is much tougher and they can no longer blow teams out regularly... welcome to Any Given Sunday! They'll use cost as an excuse to not go, yet they're the same parents who spend thousands per year on their lacrosse team wardrobe just to say their kid plays for the club, when in fact, he rides the bench. Comedy at its finest!
Opting out because they know the competition is much tougher and they can no longer blow teams out regularly... welcome to Any Given Sunday! They'll use cost as an excuse to not go, yet they're the same parents who spend thousands per year on their lacrosse team wardrobe just to say their kid plays for the club, when in fact, he rides the bench. Comedy at its finest!
It’s more than one club opting out
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Putting aside whether both of those teams are actually in the conversation as being "the best", does anyone have context about why they are dropping out? It's not because of the location of the final. Do they have many kids who don't meet the 9/1 age cutoff? I know there are some but don't know how many.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Putting aside whether both of those teams are actually in the conversation as being "the best", does anyone have context about why they are dropping out? It's not because of the location of the final. Do they have many kids who don't meet the 9/1 age cutoff? I know there are some but don't know how many.
It’s exactly because of the location of the final.
If this was east coast there would be no opting out.
They are not the only 2 regular attendees opting out.
Other LI teams opted out? I hadn’t heard anything. Did any CT teams bail? They had the two finalists I think
Teams are definitely bailing out because of the location not because the competition is getting tougher. Rebels Black/Team 91 Empire Combo will celebrate this as a win.
Igloo is going but just hoping for a participation medal.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Putting aside whether both of those teams are actually in the conversation as being "the best", does anyone have context about why they are dropping out? It's not because of the location of the final. Do they have many kids who don't meet the 9/1 age cutoff? I know there are some but don't know how many.
It’s exactly because of the location of the final.
If this was east coast there would be no opting out.
They are not the only 2 regular attendees opting out.
I'm a little surprised and confused about this. A flight to Minnesota is not much different time-wise than a flight to NC. And it's not like staying in Mathews, NC was that big of a draw. And I don't think most of the kids care whether it's NC or MN. What am I missing? There's no way that it's just about the location of the final.
Agreed, seems kind of lame by them but if they took a poll of families willing to do it and the result was a “no”, then why go through with it?
What is the official rule
Agreed, seems kind of lame by them but if they took a poll of families willing to do it and the result was a “no”, then why go through with it?
I agree with you. I would just be surprised if the poll resulted in a "no" vote solely because of the location. I'm sure people are underwhelmed by Minnesota but I haven't heard a single person from any participating club even suggesting that they wanted to back out because of it.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Putting aside whether both of those teams are actually in the conversation as being "the best", does anyone have context about why they are dropping out? It's not because of the location of the final. Do they have many kids who don't meet the 9/1 age cutoff? I know there are some but don't know how many.
It’s exactly because of the location of the final.
If this was east coast there would be no opting out.
They are not the only 2 regular attendees opting out.
I'm a little surprised and confused about this. A flight to Minnesota is not much different time-wise than a flight to NC. And it's not like staying in Mathews, NC was that big of a draw. And I don't think most of the kids care whether it's NC or MN. What am I missing? There's no way that it's just about the location of the final.
I think you’ll find that most east, southeast and northeast teams would drive to any location on the east coast. The majority of teams that compete in this tournament each year are from those regions. Not every lax parent is an infinite money glitch and wants to spend for plane tickets and rental cars and everything else during a holiday week. And if you look deeper into the situation, both Express and 91 play NLF Championship in July. That is regulary one of the top tournaments in the country year in and year out. This year it is on age for them. It’s also on Long Island this year as opposed to Lehigh. Kind of defeats the purpose of flying to Minnesota when they will get one of the best tournaments in the country, on age and in their own backyard. I’d bet on other northeast teams that compete at NLF to also opt out of the World Series.
Express and 91 are out. Enjoy Minnesota without the best.
Imagine flying to Minnesota to see the same final we’re gonna see at the Columbus Day Invitational.
Putting aside whether both of those teams are actually in the conversation as being "the best", does anyone have context about why they are dropping out? It's not because of the location of the final. Do they have many kids who don't meet the 9/1 age cutoff? I know there are some but don't know how many.
It’s exactly because of the location of the final.
If this was east coast there would be no opting out.
They are not the only 2 regular attendees opting out.
I'm a little surprised and confused about this. A flight to Minnesota is not much different time-wise than a flight to NC. And it's not like staying in Mathews, NC was that big of a draw. And I don't think most of the kids care whether it's NC or MN. What am I missing? There's no way that it's just about the location of the final.
I think you’ll find that most east, southeast and northeast teams would drive to any location on the east coast. The majority of teams that compete in this tournament each year are from those regions. Not every lax parent is an infinite money glitch and wants to spend for plane tickets and rental cars and everything else during a holiday week. And if you look deeper into the situation, both Express and 91 play NLF Championship in July. That is regulary one of the top tournaments in the country year in and year out. This year it is on age for them. It’s also on Long Island this year as opposed to Lehigh. Kind of defeats the purpose of flying to Minnesota when they will get one of the best tournaments in the country, on age and in their own backyard. I’d bet on other northeast teams that compete at NLF to also opt out of the World Series.
Interesting points, thank you.
What would the NLF have to do with it? It's two weeks after the WS anyway. Maybe the WS location is not ideal, but I'd imagine the facility they'll be playing at will be top notch. Most of us spend enough time and money traveling up and down the mid-atlantic region May-July so what's the difference really, airfare? Last time I checked, MD, DE and NC weren't exactly top tourist destinations. Hotels in the area are more than reasonable (if not cheaper). You go for 3-4 nights, rent a car for a few days and watch some good teams compete. Isn't part of this about the overall experience for the boys? Cost is a cop-out excuse given the top clubs are printing money and could help subsidize if they wanted to. Or, did you ever hear of the word fundraising? Wow, what a concept that would be right? People would actually have to do something... imagine that? Most of the people complaining are the ones who spend thousands outfitting themselves in their team gear so they look like a walking billboard on the sideline, while their kid sits on the bench. Who cares if those teams choose to not go, their loss.
What would the NLF have to do with it? It's two weeks after the WS anyway. Maybe the WS location is not ideal, but I'd imagine the facility they'll be playing at will be top notch. Most of us spend enough time and money traveling up and down the mid-atlantic region May-July so what's the difference really, airfare? Last time I checked, MD, DE and NC weren't exactly top tourist destinations. Hotels in the area are more than reasonable (if not cheaper). You go for 3-4 nights, rent a car for a few days and watch some good teams compete. Isn't part of this about the overall experience for the boys? Cost is a cop-out excuse given the top clubs are printing money and could help subsidize if they wanted to. Or, did you ever hear of the word fundraising? Wow, what a concept that would be right? People would actually have to do something... imagine that? Most of the people complaining are the ones who spend thousands outfitting themselves in their team gear so they look like a walking billboard on the sideline, while their kid sits on the bench. Who cares if those teams choose to not go, their loss.
I look forward to seeing you in MD forum chastising all of the DMV teams who choose not to go year in and year out.
I’m sure they’ll also appreciate you telling them how to spend their money.
Look at this as an opportunity. You have two decent teams out of the way. Seize the day, go win the World Series. It might help with getting kids into your child’s program in the future.
No one is telling you how to spend your money... one word, fundraise!!! Imagine you actually having to do something to help your sons team raise money so they can participate? Maybe downgrade from your Range Rover to something more economical and save a few bucks? Stop making excuses! Or, maybe you're just worried your team won't qualify without those reclasses?
No one is telling you how to spend your money... one word, fundraise!!! Imagine you actually having to do something to help your sons team raise money so they can participate? Maybe downgrade from your Range Rover to something more economical and save a few bucks? Stop making excuses! Or, maybe you're just worried your team won't qualify without those reclasses?
Here you are telling people what to do again. How to spend their money or their time. Even selling their cars for them.
You sound very bitter.
Try to enjoy the experience with your child. Stop worrying about who is going and who is not.
Think about those FL, GA and CO teams that consistently come to us. They do this nutty travel all summer Are we being sour because two CT teams broke up our LI monopoly and made last year’s final?
If Express or 91 thought they could win, they would be in, Plain and simple.
Opting out because they know the competition is much tougher and they can no longer blow teams out regularly... welcome to Any Given Sunday! They'll use cost as an excuse to not go, yet they're the same parents who spend thousands per year on their lacrosse team wardrobe just to say their kid plays for the club, when in fact, he rides the bench. Comedy at its finest!
Comedy is any club parent thinking it’s a good investment.
Posted 2nd time, If BOC does not let it , Shame on you. Express and 91 will not go to WSYL because they know they will not win.
You’re about as sharp as a spoon… keep running to that New Balance store, while your kid rides the bench. Or, are you afraid you can’t win against a level playing field? Downgrade from your Range Rover and stop making excuses!!!
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
If NLF is the be all / end all, why would Venom blow it off? Is it because they lost to a “little brother” club and couldn’t stomach playing another game two weeks later? So much emphasis is put on this one silly tournament and if some can’t be king of the sandbox, they take their toys elsewhere.
You’re about as sharp as a spoon… keep running to that New Balance store, while your kid rides the bench. Or, are you afraid you can’t win against a level playing field? Downgrade from your Range Rover and stop making excuses!!!
What is the biggest selling point of the World Series?
On age lacrosse
NLF is ON AGE lacrosse this year for 2029 and below. You can talk all you want, but the NLF Championship is widely regarded as one of the top 2 or 3 tournaments of the year. Also, on Long Island. See you there in July. Both Express & 91 as well as the other non LI big name club that is dropping the World Series will be there.
The simple fact is that the current organization that runs the “new” WS at least in the short time thus far runs it as a “cheapened” version of the former organization. The best teams other than from the northeast - rarely attend. As far as knocking 91 and or Express, there are no teams in the Tri-State area that has had more success including tournament championship appearances and or wins the past 5 years. Lots of bold talk as always, but the cream will always rise to the top and that cream is 91 and Espress.
No one is telling you how to spend your money... one word, fundraise!!! Imagine you actually having to do something to help your sons team raise money so they can participate? Maybe downgrade from your Range Rover to something more economical and save a few bucks? Stop making excuses! Or, maybe you're just worried your team won't qualify without those reclasses?
Your answer is have other people pay for it? Lol
You’re about as sharp as a spoon… keep running to that New Balance store, while your kid rides the bench. Or, are you afraid you can’t win against a level playing field? Downgrade from your Range Rover and stop making excuses!!!
What is the biggest selling point of the World Series?
On age lacrosse
NLF is ON AGE lacrosse this year for 2029 and below. You can talk all you want, but the NLF Championship is widely regarded as one of the top 2 or 3 tournaments of the year. Also, on Long Island. See you there in July. Both Express & 91 as well as the other non LI big name club that is dropping the World Series will be there.
Keep telling yourself that, eventually you'll believe all your excuses! Teams opting not to go to the WS has nothing to do with cost. It's been a known cost for a many years now, and anyone in the lacrosse world knows that. Certain teams are now afraid of the parity now and their inability to walk all over teams without their reclass players. What does being afraid to lose a competitive lacrosse game say about your organization?
You’re about as sharp as a spoon… keep running to that New Balance store, while your kid rides the bench. Or, are you afraid you can’t win against a level playing field? Downgrade from your Range Rover and stop making excuses!!!
What is the biggest selling point of the World Series?
On age lacrosse
NLF is ON AGE lacrosse this year for 2029 and below. You can talk all you want, but the NLF Championship is widely regarded as one of the top 2 or 3 tournaments of the year. Also, on Long Island. See you there in July. Both Express & 91 as well as the other non LI big name club that is dropping the World Series will be there.
Keep telling yourself that, eventually you'll believe all your excuses! Teams opting not to go to the WS has nothing to do with cost. It's been a known cost for a many years now, and anyone in the lacrosse world knows that. Certain teams are now afraid of the parity now and their inability to walk all over teams without their reclass players. What does being afraid to lose a competitive lacrosse game say about your organization?
What reclasses? Who has those this year on the Island at this grade?
The simple fact is that the current organization that runs the “new” WS at least in the short time thus far runs it as a “cheapened” version of the former organization. The best teams other than from the northeast - rarely attend. As far as knocking 91 and or Express, there are no teams in the Tri-State area that has had more success including tournament championship appearances and or wins the past 5 years. Lots of bold talk as always, but the cream will always rise to the top and that cream is 91 and Espress.
What are you talking about? The best teams rarely attend? Please name one on-age “good” team that didn’t attend last year? You can’t, because the hawks, crabs, red hots, 3dNE, etc, etc, all had kids too old to compete. That is the reason they didn’t compete.
Worst case of single poster spamming a board I have ever seen. Go home
What’s the other big name non LI club opting out?
The simple fact is that the current organization that runs the “new” WS at least in the short time thus far runs it as a “cheapened” version of the former organization. The best teams other than from the northeast - rarely attend. As far as knocking 91 and or Express, there are no teams in the Tri-State area that has had more success including tournament championship appearances and or wins the past 5 years. Lots of bold talk as always, but the cream will always rise to the top and that cream is 91 and Espress.
Let’s see… it’s in Minnesota, too expensive, it’s a “cheapened” version of what it was. Sounds like a lot of excuses to me. Sounds more like those teams are too worried about getting upstaged by other teams in the country who have closed the gap. Put your money where your mouth is!
Cream of the crop like EN and 2Way?
You’re about as sharp as a spoon… keep running to that New Balance store, while your kid rides the bench. Or, are you afraid you can’t win against a level playing field? Downgrade from your Range Rover and stop making excuses!!!
What is the biggest selling point of the World Series?
On age lacrosse
NLF is ON AGE lacrosse this year for 2029 and below. You can talk all you want, but the NLF Championship is widely regarded as one of the top 2 or 3 tournaments of the year. Also, on Long Island. See you there in July. Both Express & 91 as well as the other non LI big name club that is dropping the World Series will be there.
Keep telling yourself that, eventually you'll believe all your excuses! Teams opting not to go to the WS has nothing to do with cost. It's been a known cost for a many years now, and anyone in the lacrosse world knows that. Certain teams are now afraid of the parity now and their inability to walk all over teams without their reclass players. What does being afraid to lose a competitive lacrosse game say about your organization?
You must be really fun to argue with…lol
Enough WS talk. It’s one tournament. Which teams will be at Tristar this fall?
Enough WS talk. It’s one tournament. Which teams will be at Tristar this fall?
Express, Igloo, 91, Mooselax, Legacy
No Rebels at Tristar?? Must be waiting for the WS qualifiers.
Primetime, Express North and 2way were there last year too.
Can’t remember if the decent NJ teams usually go
Rebels will be at tri-star
Enough WS talk. It’s one tournament. Which teams will be at Tristar this fall?
Enough TriStar talk, it’s one tournament.
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
They are combining teams to make 1 team? Does that comply with the rules? My son was ask to play even though they know he’s on a different team.
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
They are combining teams to make 1 team? Does that comply with the rules? My son was ask to play even though they know he’s on a different team.
Sounds like Rebels
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
Exactly why this tournament is a joke compared to others. Rules aren’t followed at this tournament like all the rest. Combining teams, forming a special team, all the sneaking in older kids, not even reclassified kids flat out older kids! We keep crying about southern states, while we do the same thing!! Just saying
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
Rebels Black is the rebranded Sting team and Sting is the rebranded Eagles team. We will see this Monday if Black has improved any from last year. They lost some good players to other clubs.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Geez, someone’s a little too emotionally invested. I don’t even know the team but am guessing they might win some games and lose some games. Usually how it goes.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Geez, someone’s a little too emotionally invested. I don’t even know the team but am guessing they might win some games and lose some games. Usually how it goes.
I'm not sure they're too emotionally invested but what's the obsession with Rebels Black anyway? Who cares. Every team gained / lost some players and the competition should be fairly good and the gap has definitely closed. Isn't this supposed to be about 7th grade boys playing a game they enjoy and having fun? Isn't the WS about the experience? All these comments are ridiculous and I feel dumber for having read them - lol.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
They had tryouts just like normal. Just like every club does. You people are I’ll informed or purposely trying to make an issue when it’s a non starter.
Hit the wall!
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
They are combining teams to make 1 team? Does that comply with the rules? My son was ask to play even though they know he’s on a different team.
Stop
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
Most of the moms posting negative comments about other clubs they are not associated with are angry that their little superstar got cut from that team. FACT
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
They are combining teams to make 1 team? Does that comply with the rules? My son was ask to play even though they know he’s on a different team.
Stop
All the comments seem to support the statement. You must be the one making the calls to poach, you stop!!
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
Besides Laxachusetts, MadLax, and 3d NE, which clubs are egregious hold back centers?
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
Besides Laxachusetts, MadLax, and 3d NE, which clubs are egregious hold back centers?
Alot of them. It’s just the way it is.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
That’s almost as good as a Kamala/KJP word salad response because you clearly didn’t read the post. You skirted around the main issue which is, the 9/1 date, which will eliminate certain players and put those teams on par with many others. The location and cost excuses are just pathetic and no one is buying them. You’ve had your son playing competitive lacrosse on LI for the past 4-5 years and only now you’re realizing the WS is an added expense? Wake up and please stop already!
I’m just annoyed that a CT team will probably win this thing again. The reasons for bailing are weak and provincial.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Sounds like you have the inside scoop. Please enlighten us all, the suspense is killing us.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
Exactly, if they have eligible 28’s that is what all teams do. Not a big deal
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Well you know so why do you beat around the bush. Just tell us why the teams aren’t participating.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
I’ll ask you, please tell?!?!?
Fake news. A few initial disappointment bc unexpected but all parents on board with both organizations decision.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Well you know so why do you beat around the bush. Just tell us why the teams aren’t participating.
Because they are afraid of losing with an age verified team. These are the same parents that spend thousands per year to watch their kid never play just to say he's on a top team while they parade around with all their gear and than complain about playing time. News flash, not everyone gets a trophy!
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Well you know so why do you beat around the bush. Just tell us why the teams aren’t participating.
Because they are afraid of losing with an age verified team. These are the same parents that spend thousands per year to watch their kid never play just to say he's on a top team while they parade around with all their gear and than complain about playing time. News flash, not everyone gets a trophy!
Thank you for the comic relief and for being the expert on 12 year old club lacrosse - lol!!
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Well you know so why do you beat around the bush. Just tell us why the teams aren’t participating.
Because they are afraid of losing with an age verified team. These are the same parents that spend thousands per year to watch their kid never play just to say he's on a top team while they parade around with all their gear and than complain about playing time. News flash, not everyone gets a trophy!
So you’re a mom who spent thousands that will never be recouped to watch his kid play. So what mom, why do you care? Always the women who worry about other people’s business. Just a wash woman.
Rebels Black is new team this year. Kids from last years Rebels Central , East and kids from other clubs including Empire. This is not just for WS, it’s a team , that will compete with all. It’s called Rebel Black. New year, new team, all on age, and practicing 3 times a week. What exactly are they doing wrong.
And a bunch of 28’s practicing with them because they know their 29 team will struggle. Team will be better with the new coaches but they still have a ways to go to compete with the better LI teams (91, Express, Igloo and Moose). Let’s see how they do when they play some real AA tourneys and some tough teams like Madlax, Eclipse or Leading Edge. The documentary should be entertaining but highlights reels from practice don’t win games!
Bunch of 28’s from where??
Everyone who goes to the World Series will grab 28’s from their own organization who are still age eligible.
I’ve heard the tourney season cutoff is 6/1/10 but the Regional qualifiers and WS is 9/1/10 which makes more sense but could also disqualify a bunch of older players (as it should). Does anyone know if this is true? It’s pretty funny how scared some of these teams are to play against a level playing field; you know who you are.
It’s 9/1. It’s right on the world series webpage.
NLF is 6/1 for 2029s. Also right on their webpage.
I don’t think LI teams are using holdbacks like other clubs from the rest of the country. If you said that kids wouldn’t qualify because they are beyond the 100 mile radius, then i think you would be closer to right as a couple of teams have out of state players. I don’t think any LI teams are scared of any other LI teams. They all play different schedules and tournament groupings depending on club allegiances and tournament ownerships.
I’d suspect that if the NLF cutoff is 6/1, certain teams will talk it up and berate the qualifiers and WS because they know the 9/1 date will impact their team and they’ll have kids who are ineligible, and therefore, not able to run through teams. It’s sad that youth lacrosse has come to this and that the arrogant, pathetic parents living vicariously through their child, can’t handle parity. More pathetic is the fact these same teams are using location and cost as an excuse. What happened to competition? Maybe spend more time teaching your kid how to lose with dignity? What a concept that would be.
If you’re suspecting i guess you’re not in the know. Or your just lobbing accusations because you don’t care for one of the clubs that have decided to not participate, and i’d suspect it’s the two numbered club. If you have a child playing 2029 on LI you should by this time at least have some friends that have children on most other teams. And if that was the case you actually would know how the choosing to not participate went down with both teams. It went down two completely different ways and there are unhappy parents on both teams. Ask around and you’ll find out.
Well you know so why do you beat around the bush. Just tell us why the teams aren’t participating.
Because they are afraid of losing with an age verified team. These are the same parents that spend thousands per year to watch their kid never play just to say he's on a top team while they parade around with all their gear and than complain about playing time. News flash, not everyone gets a trophy!
So you’re a mom who spent thousands that will never be recouped to watch his kid play. So what mom, why do you care? Always the women who worry about other people’s business. Just a wash woman.
Definitely a Rebels Black mom who knows their son would never make another team without Dad coaching. That cult will be your downfall lol.
Any surprising results from this weekends tourney?
Asking about results means you know them.
Asking about results means you know them.
i'm not sure you understood the question.
Not really. Looked like the top two teams met in the finals.. Played a tough game with Igloo coming out on top..
Not really. Looked like the top two teams met in the finals.. Played a tough game with Igloo coming out on top..
Igloo and Mooselax in the finals and they both looked good although I give Igloo the slight edge. Rebels looked much improved and will be a much better team than they've been. Other teams were solid throughout and the weather allowed for a good day for everyone to get out and play.
I thought black only beat tenacious turtles?
So who wins PT fall challenge this weekend?
I thought black only beat tenacious turtles?
Yes but only lost to Moose and Igloo who are consistently pretty tough teams. They have definitely improved.
So who wins PT fall challenge this weekend?
Legacy v btb btb wins it all
So who wins PT fall challenge this weekend?
Freedom
What is Express North AA doing at Fall Jam? That is a single A tournament. Bad look if they don’t sweep through.
What is Express North AA doing at Fall Jam? That is a single A tournament. Bad look if they don’t sweep through.
Fall ball. No one cares where anyone plays. Fall ball is for working in the new guys from tryouts, getting the group back on the field, maybe trying some new plays. It’s meaningless lacrosse, more designed to make clubs money than anything else.
What is Express North AA doing at Fall Jam? That is a single A tournament. Bad look if they don’t sweep through.
Fall ball. No one cares where anyone plays. Fall ball is for working in the new guys from tryouts, getting the group back on the field, maybe trying some new plays. It’s meaningless lacrosse, more designed to make clubs money than anything else.
Dont disagree.
Sounds like someone drank the coaches koolaid and is not haveing a good fall season.
I see mooselax beat Primetime and Express pretty good.
And have beaten 91 in the past.Maybe there is a bigger reason teams are dropping from the WS?
I see mooselax beat Primetime and Express pretty good.
And have beaten 91 in the past.Maybe there is a bigger reason teams are dropping from the WS?
Express dad here. It’s possible. Sloppy lacrosse today but express was bad. Really bad.
I see mooselax beat Primetime and Express pretty good.
And have beaten 91 in the past.Maybe there is a bigger reason teams are dropping from the WS?
Yeah. Teams must have made a decision weeks ago because they forecasted the results of a tournament played today.
Must be exactly what it is.
I see mooselax beat Primetime and Express pretty good.
And have beaten 91 in the past.Maybe there is a bigger reason teams are dropping from the WS?
Who is dropping out?
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
No.They made the decision weeks ago because they know they have teams that have not been rostered fairly or correctly and now are some of the worst performing teams of the program’s history.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
They can all do it in June at the NAL or Tristar where the rest of the best teams in the country will also be. Newsflash, the majority of best teams in the country do not show up to the World Series. LI teams represented very well at NAL last year besides Legacy. That’s a tournament to win. Or the NLF Championship. Break the cycle, let’s get a LI winner of one of those 2 tourneys.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
They can all do it in June at the NAL or Tristar where the rest of the best teams in the country will also be. Newsflash, the majority of best teams in the country do not show up to the World Series. LI teams represented very well at NAL last year besides Legacy. That’s a tournament to win. Or the NLF Championship. Break the cycle, let’s get a LI winner of one of those 2 tourneys.
Probably half the teams that participated in the NLF tourney were A teams at best which is why many of the scores were so lopsided. Way watered down and most of the better LI teams didn't even compete in it. No Igloo, Legacy, Moose, Prime Time, or even Rebels.
CoachC has figured out that his teams don't have to win in order to have a giant roster and charge a lot per kid.
pay the most. practice the least. and be arguably the 5th best team on LI.
Is Rebels Black kidding with a docuseries. Now that the good teams are bailing out of the WS they think they are going to qualify. Again, why is this team not named Rebels Black/91 Empire? It is not a true team made up of Rebels players. Even has a 91 Empire coach. I guess DS can do whatever he wants. Whole family is a joke just like the Rebels program.
Exactly why this tournament is a joke compared to others. Rules aren’t followed at this tournament like all the rest. Combining teams, forming a special team, all the sneaking in older kids, not even reclassified kids flat out older kids! We keep crying about southern states, while we do the same thing!! Just saying
This is laughable… the coach was on the Rebels last year toward the end of the year. Then they combined kids from the three rebels teams took from The Best and they had a try out and took from The Best that was available. How is that not a team?
As for older kids again silly… The 28s that they could use are on age. All teams did it last year. It’s not against rules.
Sounds to me teams like express and 91 and legacy are nervous.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
They can all do it in June at the NAL or Tristar where the rest of the best teams in the country will also be. Newsflash, the majority of best teams in the country do not show up to the World Series. LI teams represented very well at NAL last year besides Legacy. That’s a tournament to win. Or the NLF Championship. Break the cycle, let’s get a LI winner of one of those 2 tourneys.
Probably half the teams that participated in the NLF tourney were A teams at best which is why many of the scores were so lopsided. Way watered down and most of the better LI teams didn't even compete in it. No Igloo, Legacy, Moose, Prime Time, or even Rebels.
Every tournament has some punching bags in it. Wait till the world series line up and you’ll see the same. A handful of good teams and a bunch of filler. Primetime is also not an LI team.
NLF last July had 9 of the top 20 teams ranked according to US Club Lax Rankings. NAL had 9 of the top 20 as well. Tristar right here on LI had 7.
Different tournament organizations so different grouping of teams at each.
World Series had 4 of the top 20 ranked teams.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
They can all do it in June at the NAL or Tristar where the rest of the best teams in the country will also be. Newsflash, the majority of best teams in the country do not show up to the World Series. LI teams represented very well at NAL last year besides Legacy. That’s a tournament to win. Or the NLF Championship. Break the cycle, let’s get a LI winner of one of those 2 tourneys.
Probably half the teams that participated in the NLF tourney were A teams at best which is why many of the scores were so lopsided. Way watered down and most of the better LI teams didn't even compete in it. No Igloo, Legacy, Moose, Prime Time, or even Rebels.
Every tournament has some punching bags in it. Wait till the world series line up and you’ll see the same. A handful of good teams and a bunch of filler. Primetime is also not an LI team.
NLF last July had 9 of the top 20 teams ranked according to US Club Lax Rankings. NAL had 9 of the top 20 as well. Tristar right here on LI had 7.
Different tournament organizations so different grouping of teams at each.
World Series had 4 of the top 20 ranked teams.
I would imagine Naptown had the most ranked teams. No teams are excluded for political reasons like the tournaments above. WS might have had 4 of them but I’m guessing 3/4 were missing multiple high level players due to age.
Maybe 91 realized they barely won anyhting last year and other teams are improving. Protect the brand.
The 2029 Express team hasnt won anything either
So disparage the tourney this year like Denver wasnt expensive?
Exactly
If they lose again they risk losing that air, those coveted names
Fun to watch the mighty fall
Imagine the LI teams banded together and went to the WS to represent NYS and Long Island and to show the rest of the country we are a powerhouse region? Yes, there's a lot of teams on LI, which dilutes the talent somewhat, but at the end of the day, there are 5-6 strong teams who could make a run. Are egos that big for 12 year old lacrosse that "Any Given Sunday" between these top teams is such an issue? Does it, matter if it's 91, Igloo, Express, Moose, Prime Time? They can all beat each other, and likely have.
They can all do it in June at the NAL or Tristar where the rest of the best teams in the country will also be. Newsflash, the majority of best teams in the country do not show up to the World Series. LI teams represented very well at NAL last year besides Legacy. That’s a tournament to win. Or the NLF Championship. Break the cycle, let’s get a LI winner of one of those 2 tourneys.
Probably half the teams that participated in the NLF tourney were A teams at best which is why many of the scores were so lopsided. Way watered down and most of the better LI teams didn't even compete in it. No Igloo, Legacy, Moose, Prime Time, or even Rebels.
Every tournament has some punching bags in it. Wait till the world series line up and you’ll see the same. A handful of good teams and a bunch of filler. Primetime is also not an LI team.
NLF last July had 9 of the top 20 teams ranked according to US Club Lax Rankings. NAL had 9 of the top 20 as well. Tristar right here on LI had 7.
Different tournament organizations so different grouping of teams at each.
World Series had 4 of the top 20 ranked teams.
I would imagine Naptown had the most ranked teams. No teams are excluded for political reasons like the tournaments above. WS might have had 4 of them but I’m guessing 3/4 were missing multiple high level players due to age.
Too many National teams at Naptown. I don’t think they had the most top 20 ranked teams either. Not one LI team went this past year. So that’s 20% of the top 20 right there.
Just curious but is the presence of national teams what keeps LI teams away? National teams are usually a mixed bag. Some good but most don’t practice, have roster turnover and play me ball.
Just curious but is the presence of national teams what keeps LI teams away? National teams are usually a mixed bag. Some good but most don’t practice, have roster turnover and play me ball.
You better hope Rebels National team doesn’t show up’ they are legit!
Thoughts on newest money grab. Barnstormers Lacrosse.
National teams are biggest waste of money and that’s saying something when it comes to travel lacrosse.
Just curious but is the presence of national teams what keeps LI teams away? National teams are usually a mixed bag. Some good but most don’t practice, have roster turnover and play me ball.
You better hope Rebels National team doesn’t show up’ they are legit!
Please stop, that’s fool talk. Legit against B or C teams maybe but that’s about it. They do a good job of making highlight videos with all the fluff that doesn’t win games. 😂😂😜
Show up where? Lol. To the B bracket???
Looks like Tristar has an A group, a B group and a C group. And Express elected to play in the C group.
They need more practice as they were already embarrassed in their first fall ball tournament. Gotta workout the kinks.
That draw does seem weighted. Was there thought put into that or just the way it shook out?
That draw does seem weighted. Was there thought put into that or just the way it shook out?
it doesn't just shake out. that is what express chose.
That draw does seem weighted. Was there thought put into that or just the way it shook out?
It’s an express run tourney; they need a few gimme games to keep the parents happy.
Just got an email from NLF about the summer tourney coming to LI…says any team can register, click here etc. is that true? Can any club team pay the fee and get in?
Legacy did the same two weeks ago. Your tournament do as you please. Don’t like don’t play. Express is top team in this age group as is, so they should be in the final.
For some reason I get NLF emails and this one was promoting the summer nationals on LI. There was a link to register and the comment read that any team could sign up. Is this true, do you not have to be an NLF member/affiliate?
That draw does seem weighted. Was there thought put into that or just the way it shook out?
It’s an express run tourney; they need a few gimme games to keep the parents happy.
Is it really to keep the parents happy? That’s been a competitive team for a few years now so wouldn’t parents want/expect to compete against the best teams? Sounds more like the organization doing damage control to protect the brand a get a few wins against weak teams. Rebels even have a harder schedule, which is a hysterical in itself.
For some reason I get NLF emails and this one was promoting the summer nationals on LI. There was a link to register and the comment read that any team could sign up. Is this true, do you not have to be an NLF member/affiliate?
Register and find out.
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
That draw does seem weighted. Was there thought put into that or just the way it shook out?
It’s an express run tourney; they need a few gimme games to keep the parents happy.
Is it really to keep the parents happy? That’s been a competitive team for a few years now so wouldn’t parents want/expect to compete against the best teams? Sounds more like the organization doing damage control to protect the brand a get a few wins against weak teams. Rebels even have a harder schedule, which is a hysterical in itself.
Exactly. Parents should not be happy.
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
You sound nervous
Registration is just an application. I somehow doubt they will allow any teams from immediate geographic areas of their member clubs. This is how the group of 6 teams that started the nlf guarantee they continue to attract talent through the high school years. Without this tournament there would be way more parity.
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
But not as annoyed as express parents!
So thinking about the tristate, if Igloo, Rebels, 2way, BBL registered, they’d be turned away?
So thinking about the tristate, if Igloo, Rebels, 2way, BBL registered, they’d be turned away?
Never know till they apply.
2Way has played before. But the player shenagians they pulled with their 2028 team a couple of years ago was definitely frowned upon.
Rebels and Igloo are in the same market as 91 and Express. BBL is same market as Leading Edge.
I know 2way pushed the 100 mile limit at the WS last year but what did they pull at NLF?
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
If the NLF is the be all tournament people are claiming, why would any team be shut out from registering and competing? Every team has their share of annoying parents, let’s stop already! Truth is, the big clubs with teams that were used to blowing teams out regularly are no longer able to do so because other teams haven’t gotten better and can beat them. Compete, stop being afraid!
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
If the NLF is the be all tournament people are claiming, why would any team be shut out from registering and competing? Every team has their share of annoying parents, let’s stop already! Truth is, the big clubs with teams that were used to blowing teams out regularly are no longer able to do so because other teams haven’t gotten better and can beat them. Compete, stop being afraid!
The fact that you think this is about teams afraid to play others shows you have no clue.
Club lacrosse is a business first, foremost and always.
And the NLF is in the business of cornering elite talent at the upper most grade levels. They don’t care about your one off 7th grade team that can compete right now.
Their marketing schtick and “exclusiveness” creates a demand so elite players migrate to their teams at the upper grade levels to keep the college coaches coming and in turn keep the $$$ rolling in.
Registration is just an application. I somehow doubt they will allow any teams from immediate geographic areas of their member clubs. This is how the group of 6 teams that started the nlf guarantee they continue to attract talent through the high school years. Without this tournament there would be way more parity.
Or more diluted but unlikely as kids want to play with the best, against the best and for the best. College coaches want to work with programs that are going to send them those kids year over year. If 91 gives a D1 coach 5-7 great prospects a year while Igloo gives him 1-2 every few years who do you think he is calling. Parents, pick the club with the track record and playing in the best tournaments if your kid is looking to play at the next level. NLF Love it or leave it but the results are there.
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
If the NLF is the be all tournament people are claiming, why would any team be shut out from registering and competing? Every team has their share of annoying parents, let’s stop already! Truth is, the big clubs with teams that were used to blowing teams out regularly are no longer able to do so because other teams haven’t gotten better and can beat them. Compete, stop being afraid!
The fact that you think this is about teams afraid to play others shows you have no clue.
Club lacrosse is a business first, foremost and always.
And the NLF is in the business of cornering elite talent at the upper most grade levels. They don’t care about your one off 7th grade team that can compete right now.
Their marketing schtick and “exclusiveness” creates a demand so elite players migrate to their teams at the upper grade levels to keep the college coaches coming and in turn keep the $$$ rolling in.
Well…I recall the reason the founding clubs started the NLF is because they were tired of blowouts and wanted to create a federation where the competition was the best playing the best. Which is why 70% of the current committed players are from the NLF. So true on migration, those clubs attract the best players.
NLF is letting teams register but doubtful they will let rebels or igloo in. Too high maint and parents are annoying.
If the NLF is the be all tournament people are claiming, why would any team be shut out from registering and competing? Every team has their share of annoying parents, let’s stop already! Truth is, the big clubs with teams that were used to blowing teams out regularly are no longer able to do so because other teams haven’t gotten better and can beat them. Compete, stop being afraid!
The fact that you think this is about teams afraid to play others shows you have no clue.
Club lacrosse is a business first, foremost and always.
And the NLF is in the business of cornering elite talent at the upper most grade levels. They don’t care about your one off 7th grade team that can compete right now.
Their marketing schtick and “exclusiveness” creates a demand so elite players migrate to their teams at the upper grade levels to keep the college coaches coming and in turn keep the $$$ rolling in.
The NLF doesn’t have the same prestige as it once did, and there are other tournaments. You’re right though, it is a business first, which is why half the kids on those teams barely see the field. That must really impress those college coaches. Keep drinking the kool-aid and running to that New Balance store so you can brag about your kid. Wake up fool!
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Imagine being this nasty and ignorant
Keep this fella away from your kids
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Someone is having a hard time with 91/ express not being top
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Another clueless parent Check out who Express is playing next week at Tri-star. It’s a total joke and they’ve been exposed. Yes, the owners are making their money but you should ask the parents on that team and see what they have to say. The Rebels have a harder schedule, it’s laughable.
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
You’re pretty much the poster child for what’s wrong with youth lacrosse today. These are twelve year old boys, get a clue. Sad you need to live vicariously through your child who’ll end up quitting the game because of you. Get a grip!
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Someone is having a hard time with 91/ express not being top
Exactly. Bullies are really the weakest people out there. Just another sideline clown.
Would agree. If you play for Igloo or the Rebels your application got lost in the mail. NLF doesn’t need filler teams. 91/Express are the proven teams and college coaches know that. Igloo is where decent rich kids are put out to pasture
Who’s dumber? You or Biden or Kamala? Answer is you by a large margin!
Well no worries to all of you who know everything. The WS will be moved back to the east and teams who weren’t going will now participate!
This Express team is ripe for the picking for recruitment years. Big opportunity for players looking for NLF access down the road. I’d suspect tryouts next summer will be packed. Start to see out of state folk showing up as well.
Well no worries to all of you who know everything. The WS will be moved back to the east and teams who weren’t going will now participate!
Wait. I thought they weren’t going because of holdbacks and not location?
Well no worries to all of you who know everything. The WS will be moved back to the east and teams who weren’t going will now participate!
Wait. I thought they weren’t going because of holdbacks and not location?
They don’t want to go anywhere they can’t control who they play so they can blow teams out and pound their chests about how good they are. Imagine being part of a team you pay $4k+ on and you’re afraid to play competitive teams so you can protect the brand?
Well no worries to all of you who know everything. The WS will be moved back to the east and teams who weren’t going will now participate!
Wait. I thought they weren’t going because of holdbacks and not location?
They don’t want to go anywhere they can’t control who they play so they can blow teams out and pound their chests about how good they are. Imagine being part of a team you pay $4k+ on and you’re afraid to play competitive teams so you can protect the brand?
let’s keep moving the goal posts. First it was holdbacks and now it’s schedule control which we all know is false because we can look up where all these teams played last year and see how many they played outside of their ownership as well as how many top ranked clubs each team played.
You should be thanking the club directors of Express and 91 and a few others for putting the pressure on the owners of the WS and getting the WS moved back east, saving you on plane tickets and rental cars. But maybe now you’re worried about your kids team actually qualifying as their will be one or two less spots to get.
Any idea where the world series will be moved to?
Farmingdale State College
Well no worries to all of you who know everything. The WS will be moved back to the east and teams who weren’t going will now participate!
Wait. I thought they weren’t going because of holdbacks and not location?
They don’t want to go anywhere they can’t control who they play so they can blow teams out and pound their chests about how good they are. Imagine being part of a team you pay $4k+ on and you’re afraid to play competitive teams so you can protect the brand?
You are TRULY ignorant. Express and 91 don’t shy away from playing the best teams year in year out and across the board.
Any idea where the world series will be moved to?
MD/DE
https://thealliancelacrosseleague.com/Same weekend as NLF. These are good teams and should draw some college eyeballs. Do we know if any teams from our area will go?
No college coach is looking at 29’s unless you have one of their kids on the roster and they are there to cheer them on.
Looks like a good group of clubs to build a tournament foundation with.
2 things..
-There are nw 'college eyeballs' at 2029 tournaments, &
- This would be the tournament for teams with 14 yr olds competing in 2029.
Way too early for college viewing. Go for fun, team, experience. Even film is not as important at this age because colleges don’t want to look at film this young
I think they’re saying that colleges won’t send their entire staffs to NLF to watch HS kids when something comparable is occurring the same weekend. May take away from prestige and chest thumping that NLF trumpets. This will likely be competitive up and down the age spectrum.
On a related note, I think there is a showcase in NJ this weekend and 2029s are invited. I know showcases can be important as the kids get older but is there any reason to go to one at this age? Obviously a lot of people go to them so they must see some benefit.
2 things..
-There are nw 'college eyeballs' at 2029 tournaments, &
- This would be the tournament for teams with 14 yr olds competing in 2029.
Those are all holdback clubs. LI clubs will get a smackdown at that tourney when showing up with 13 and some 12 year olds.
Any idea where the world series will be moved to?
MD/DE
Moving this year and scratching Minnesota or is this next year?
Staying in MN this year. Supposedly they worked with PLL to have it the same weekend. Should be fun for the kids of that is the case.
No. Moving it out of Minnesota for this upcoming event.
Spineless of the organizers if that’s true.
Spineless of the organizers if that’s true.
Real spineless when they’re about to not be able to host a tournament. You really think 91 and Express were the only clubs not going?
I hope they do leave it in Minnesota. Then when they only have 10 teams instead of over 20, we’ll get the MoneyMen behind Express or 91 or Primetime to take over and run the World Series going forward. Exactly what everyone wants.
Kudos if they move it out of MN..
S2S and 2way are a part of this now
That Alliance Lacrosse League that someone brought up yesterday.
S2S 2029 team is a powerhouse. Organizers are def scared now.
No. Moving it out of Minnesota for this upcoming event.
#fakenews
S2S and 2way are a part of this now
well no one elsw wants 2Way with their checkered past of roster games
We all know the real reason.Tristar run by Express
Igloo/Rebels play
NAL - Igloo Rebels play
Legacy tournament -igloo Rebels play
Any other tournament that exists - igloo Rebels play.
But not the NLF hmm I wonder who is blocking that?
Will that change now that it is on Long Island?
Spineless of the organizers if that’s true.
Real spineless when they’re about to not be able to host a tournament. You really think 91 and Express were the only clubs not going?
I hope they do leave it in Minnesota. Then when they only have 10 teams instead of over 20, we’ll get the MoneyMen behind Express or 91 or Primetime to take over and run the World Series going forward. Exactly what everyone wants.
I thought 91 did run the World Series… Isn’t that whate everybody complains about year after year that they get the easy schedule?
No!No reason at all except to have fun!Any other diluted lax parent bringing their future little Rabil to “get their name out there” are the ones ruining everything for their players and everyone else.Showcases mean NOTHING until HS.But it is fun to watch these “future all stars” show up and realize there is heavy comp sometimes.Then it turns into “We are here for the experience “ lol.showcases are there for players to SHOWCASE themselves to college coaches… why in the world would 7th graders go?
Tristar with a new tournament: Stars and Stripes. Same weekend as WS. Steeper than usual registration fee. Looks like they are trying to make it a direct competitor with an “experience” for players and coaches.
No!No reason at all except to have fun!Any other diluted lax parent bringing their future little Rabil to “get their name out there” are the ones ruining everything for their players and everyone else.Showcases mean NOTHING until HS.But it is fun to watch these “future all stars” show up and realize there is heavy comp sometimes.Then it turns into “We are here for the experience “ lol.showcases are there for players to SHOWCASE themselves to college coaches… why in the world would 7th graders go?
So the parents can put it on Facebook and Instagram of course.
No!No reason at all except to have fun!Any other diluted lax parent bringing their future little Rabil to “get their name out there” are the ones ruining everything for their players and everyone else.Showcases mean NOTHING until HS.But it is fun to watch these “future all stars” show up and realize there is heavy comp sometimes.Then it turns into “We are here for the experience “ lol.showcases are there for players to SHOWCASE themselves to college coaches… why in the world would 7th graders go?
That was my thinking as well. There is also a lot of FOMO going on. fool how much money people spend on these at this age.
Spineless of the organizers if that’s true.
Real spineless when they’re about to not be able to host a tournament. You really think 91 and Express were the only clubs not going?
I hope they do leave it in Minnesota. Then when they only have 10 teams instead of over 20, we’ll get the MoneyMen behind Express or 91 or Primetime to take over and run the World Series going forward. Exactly what everyone wants.
There are plenty of tournaments to choose from every summer. Hopefully we end up at different ones. You sound like a real peach.
No!No reason at all except to have fun!Any other diluted lax parent bringing their future little Rabil to “get their name out there” are the ones ruining everything for their players and everyone else.Showcases mean NOTHING until HS.But it is fun to watch these “future all stars” show up and realize there is heavy comp sometimes.Then it turns into “We are here for the experience “ lol.showcases are there for players to SHOWCASE themselves to college coaches… why in the world would 7th graders go?
That was my thinking as well. There is also a lot of FOMO going on. fool how much money people spend on these at this age.
Spending money is the only way unfortunately. Whether it’s showcases, clinics or camps. You have to pay to play. Prove me wrong. Especially if you don’t have a hook.
No!No reason at all except to have fun!Any other diluted lax parent bringing their future little Rabil to “get their name out there” are the ones ruining everything for their players and everyone else.Showcases mean NOTHING until HS.But it is fun to watch these “future all stars” show up and realize there is heavy comp sometimes.Then it turns into “We are here for the experience “ lol.showcases are there for players to SHOWCASE themselves to college coaches… why in the world would 7th graders go?
That was my thinking as well. There is also a lot of FOMO going on. fool how much money people spend on these at this age.
Spending money is the only way unfortunately. Whether it’s showcases, clinics or camps. You have to pay to play. Prove me wrong. Especially if you don’t have a hook.
I genuinely don't understand what you mean. You have to pay $$$ at camps and showcases in order to play lacrosse? If you're good, I think most teams are happy to have you on their roster. I'm happy to be educated here if I'm wrong, but I don't see it. I can see how forking up more money can help you get/stay on a team if you're a borderline player. But if you're a borderline player, I guess I'm wondering what the value is to spending extra money to be on a team when you don't get to play much, if it even works that way.
What? Not a B team parent. If you want to go to showcases and you find value in that, be my guest. It sounds like you honestly believe it is pay to play, which has not been my experience. And when I speak with parents of older kids who now play in college, they have told me it's not worth it at this age.
7th grade showcases are for the ego plain and simple. No college coaches are watching 7th graders. So burn your money if you want that’s on you.
Yes B team parent! Keep your kid playing in his comfort zone so when he gets to college he rides the pine!
Let’s get those Tristar predictions in!!!!
Based on early results and overreactions.
Express- looks good, close with vs 3D, killed s2s
Legacy- 2nd tier of the A group. Not quite there.
Shore 2 Shore - doesn’t belong
Rebels- could be surprise team ? Lost by 1 to leading edge, killed primetime.
Moose, Igloo, 91 - play in afternoon. Follow up then.
Reporting live from st Dom’s
Based on early results and overreactions.
Express- looks good, close with vs 3D, killed s2s
Legacy- 2nd tier of the A group. Not quite there.
Shore 2 Shore - doesn’t belong
Rebels- could be surprise team ? Lost by 1 to leading edge, killed primetime.
Moose, Igloo, 91 - play in afternoon. Follow up then.
Reporting live from st Dom’s
Update
Express - Trouble in Express land?
Legacy - Nice tie vs express. Inconsistent but can get there?
Shore 2 Shore - Outscored 32-4, would have been better in B
Rebels - Definitely surprised. 1 Goal loss to Leading Edge (Best team there), and wins over PT and 2Way.
Moose - Igloo - 91 to follow
How about the rebels bringing down 5 28’s. One of them was very large. Way to stay classy in a fall tournament! Maybe the lunatic rebel mom should stay quiet too.
How about the rebels bringing down 5 28’s. One of them was very large. Way to stay classy in a fall tournament! Maybe the lunatic rebel mom should stay quiet too.
Not true. They do have 2 age-eligible 28s for WS that are reclassing and 2 2030's on the team. Seems like some sour grapes ??
Rebels are real deal, watch out
Not sour, we beat them. But I am mistaken. They have three 2028’s and two 2030’s. Still classy!!!
Everyone has to always bring down rebels. Their youth teams are awesome.
Not sour, we beat them. But I am mistaken. They have three 2028’s and two 2030’s. Still classy!!!
Sounds like your org doesn’t have a 28 team… hmm wonder who you can be!
Every year World Series teams play with their eligible players, get over it.
Congrats you beat them on their first weekend while missing multiple top kids. Hope that works out for you!
Everyone has to always bring down rebels. Their youth teams are awesome.
Agreed, this it’s time people realize rebels are going to stay around and be one of top clubs, nothing is wrong with that.
No one promotes more on this forum than the Rebels nerds, hence why people make fun of them. Their director of the 2030 club came on here and said they’ll play anyone, anywhere and now that team is falling apart, pulled out of last two tourneys.
Rebels are all talk
Some of those kids drove there.
The rebels are a completely different team from a year ago.
And yes they clearly got older.
Based on early results and overreactions.
Express- looks good, close with vs 3D, killed s2s
Legacy- 2nd tier of the A group. Not quite there.
Shore 2 Shore - doesn’t belong
Rebels- could be surprise team ? Lost by 1 to leading edge, killed primetime.
Moose, Igloo, 91 - play in afternoon. Follow up then.
Reporting live from st Dom’s
Update
Express - Trouble in Express land?
Legacy - Nice tie vs express. Inconsistent but can get there?
Shore 2 Shore - Outscored 32-4, would have been better in B
Rebels - Definitely surprised. 1 Goal loss to Leading Edge (Best team there), and wins over PT and 2Way.
Moose - Igloo - 91 to follow
The officiating in the express legacy game was a joke.
It was actually a nice tie by express considering the officials.
The rebels are a completely different team from a year ago.
And yes they clearly got older.
They are just much better, and have a great staff. Good to have another team to the mix.
The rebels are a completely different team from a year ago.
And yes they clearly got older.
Yes better players and great coaching staff. Good to have another team in the mix.
No one promotes more on this forum than the Rebels nerds, hence why people make fun of them. Their director of the 2030 club came on here and said they’ll play anyone, anywhere and now that team is falling apart, pulled out of last two tourneys.
Rebels are all talk
The 2030 team played today… didn’t pull out of anything. What are you even talking about?
There is a new king on Long Island …. ❄️🥶
IGLOO ALPINE DRIFT
Rebels AA teams today 13-2. Name another club that did better.
No one promotes more on this forum than the Rebels nerds, hence why people make fun of them. Their director of the 2030 club came on here and said they’ll play anyone, anywhere and now that team is falling apart, pulled out of last two tourneys.
Rebels are all talk
The 2030 have their own director?? Wow good for them lol
You sound so salty!! Sore lost
How about the rebels bringing down 5 28’s. One of them was very large. Way to stay classy in a fall tournament! Maybe the lunatic rebel mom should stay quiet too.
Not true. They do have 2 age-eligible 28s for WS that are reclassing and 2 2030's on the team. Seems like some sour grapes ??
I heard it’s 4. I don’t know about reclassing but they are age eligible for WS.
2030 is a total joke. Played b bracket and barely won. Rebels are good starter program. Like the lax starter set you buy on Amazon. It runs out after a year and then you have to buy a 91 helmet!
Team 91, tough tournament. Parents can’t be happy with the recent downward trend.
Rebels AA teams today 13-2. Name another club that did better.
The 2028 team backed out of the second tier bracket
91 still atop this group Fall ball Igloo won a T-shirt. TA will add the cost of the shirt to your north shore tuition.
Rebels AA teams today 13-2. Name another club that did better.
The 2028 team backed out of the second tier bracket
For injuries to starters. Good move!
No one promotes more on this forum than the Rebels nerds, hence why people make fun of them. Their director of the 2030 club came on here and said they’ll play anyone, anywhere and now that team is falling apart, pulled out of last two tourneys.
Rebels are all talk
The 2030 team played today… didn’t pull out of anything. What are you even talking about?
Rebels helped land a big commit to Maryland
Earlier in the week Bryant
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How about the rebels bringing down 5 28’s. One of them was very large. Way to stay classy in a fall tournament! Maybe the lunatic rebel mom should stay quiet too.
Gearing up for World Series! All above board pal
Rebels AA teams today 13-2. Name another club that did better.
The 2028 team backed out of the second tier bracket
For injuries to starters. Good move!
It’s fall, everyone has injuries, you know it’s more than that!. I was there yesterday and I’d bet dollars to donuts that every aa team had a kid or 2 on crutches, and key players for sure. I’m sure the non injured parents loved the opportunity to not allow their kid the opportunity to shine, it’s not like they were playing 91, express or 2way
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Hold on 91 went 1-2.This means they will shoot up in the rankings.And in a week or two their parents will have them attached to meaningless “showcases” and fake all star teams for their social media accounts.Get the popcorn ready.
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Dismiss it all you want right now Igloo is the best team on Long Island … fall ball at this age is no excuse anymore at this age kids are ready to play or they are not 91/express have a long way to go to catch up.
Rebels AA teams today 13-2. Name another club that did better.
The 2028 team backed out of the second tier bracket
For injuries to starters. Good move!
It’s fall, everyone has injuries, you know it’s more than that!. I was there yesterday and I’d bet dollars to donuts that every aa team had a kid or 2 on crutches, and key players for sure. I’m sure the non injured parents loved the opportunity to not allow their kid the opportunity to shine, it’s not like they were playing 91, express or 2way
Yes it is more than that. Other kids weren’t available either
No luxury of having 30+ roster
There will be other tournaments relax worry about your own
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Dismiss it all you want right now Igloo is the best team on Long Island … fall ball at this age is no excuse anymore at this age kids are ready to play or they are not 91/express have a long way to go to catch up.
91 slipping in other grades as well. About time!!
Kudos to Igloo. They seem to be better prepared than the other teams thus far. Nice athletic and balanced team. Lost their fogo but found maybe a better one…….but it still is fall ball and a long way to go until summer where they tend to drop off and play in softer tournaments than express/91 which up and down the age groups will continue to be amongst top teams. Moose looks to be in the mix for next few years if they stay together. Don’t sleep on the Rebels!
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Dismiss it all you want right now Igloo is the best team on Long Island … fall ball at this age is no excuse anymore at this age kids are ready to play or they are not 91/express have a long way to go to catch up.
Igloo is 1-1 against Mooselax this Fall. They only beat 91 by 1 goal and didn’t even play Express or Rebels this weekend. By the way no T Shirts were given out yesterday.
Kudos to Igloo. They seem to be better prepared than the other teams thus far. Nice athletic and balanced team. Lost their fogo but found maybe a better one…….but it still is fall ball and a long way to go until summer where they tend to drop off and play in softer tournaments than express/91 which up and down the age groups will continue to be amongst top teams. Moose looks to be in the mix for next few years if they stay together. Don’t sleep on the Rebels!
Issue is moose doesn’t stay together… see their 26,27,28 teams.
26 merged with legacy east
27 and 28 folded
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Dismiss it all you want right now Igloo is the best team on Long Island … fall ball at this age is no excuse anymore at this age kids are ready to play or they are not 91/express have a long way to go to catch up.
Igloo is 1-1 against Mooselax this Fall. They only beat 91 by 1 goal and didn’t even play Express or Rebels this weekend. By the way no T Shirts were given out yesterday.
Igloo is not 1-1. S moose that’s false check again. To use everyone’s fall excuse igloo def had some sloppy moments that let to 2/3 goals for 91 but your lying to yourself if u think 91 was ever in the game , express has played no one and struggles to beat anyone so far. Express made their soft schedule harder than it had to be. Igloo already beat Tebs black. Get the facts straight.
Igloo 7-0 this fall.
Beat Rebels
Beat 91
Beat moose 2xs
Beat Legacy
Beat Express North
Beat GC.
Fall ball excuses just never end.
91 kept all their guys in all game as usual.
Like previously posted.Why not just say you got beat.Always has to be some sort of an excuse with the 91 people.From what I heard the only reason why it was close was because Igloo was sloppy.So take your losses like a man.Moose was missing one of their best and beat you by 2.What’s the story with that loss?
And while we are at it everyone knows the 91 head coach refused to shake hands after the Igloo game.So that just goes to show the culture that is being infused over there.Class act.
Fall ball excuses just never end.
91 kept all their guys in all game as usual.
Like previously posted.Why not just say you got beat.Always has to be some sort of an excuse with the 91 people.From what I heard the only reason why it was close was because Igloo was sloppy.So take your losses like a man.Moose was missing one of their best and beat you by 2.What’s the story with that loss?
And while we are at it everyone knows the 91 head coach refused to shake hands after the Igloo game.So that just goes to show the culture that is being infused over there.Class act.
91 coach always making a scene.
Moose should enjoy this year. Players will probably start exit then. It’s not just a team you’re in, it’s a club.
Keep dreaming.It will be filled with kids from 91 and Express that get replaced with out of staters due to not winning.
91 is not a top tier team.Igloo did more then win a t shirt .They beat you.And so did Moose lax.1-2 buddy.Now 91 will go play some soft comp tournament to get the parents diluted egos back on track.But that has been backfiring on them as well.And I was at that Igloo /91 game.91 kept their so called starters in the whole game.Igloo had balanced subscriptions throughout the game.So before you try and down play the loss by using terms like “fall ball”.Look at who was actually playing fall ball and who wasn’t.
Dismiss it all you want right now Igloo is the best team on Long Island … fall ball at this age is no excuse anymore at this age kids are ready to play or they are not 91/express have a long way to go to catch up.
Igloo is 1-1 against Mooselax this Fall. They only beat 91 by 1 goal and didn’t even play Express or Rebels this weekend. By the way no T Shirts were given out yesterday.
Igloo is not 1-1. S moose that’s false check again. To use everyone’s fall excuse igloo def had some sloppy moments that let to 2/3 goals for 91 but your lying to yourself if u think 91 was ever in the game , express has played no one and struggles to beat anyone so far. Express made their soft schedule harder than it had to be. Igloo already beat Tebs black. Get the facts straight.
Facts are Igloo can never keep a team together. Players that can will leave for 91 and Express every year. Those are the facts and they are straight as an arrow!
Keep dreaming.It will be filled with kids from 91 and Express that get replaced with out of staters due to not winning.
That’s not entirely untrue.
I don’t see Herd defections coming from this group. They are mostly from same area and will play together at a very good High School. They probably won’t need access that some of the big name clubs get because of the success the team and high school team will have.
However, there are some delusional Express/91 parents who think their kids are gonna be there at the end of the line. Fly ins will start in 8th-9th grade. Everyone points at the other clubs never keeping their teams together, well 91/Express also have bona fide pasts of bringing in players from wherever they can to win and market the brand and their guys who have been there since the beginning end up on the bench. And parents from other parts of the country pay up for this because of the past recruitment and placement success.
This game is going to change for alot of these kids over the next couple of years. Enjoy it while you can.
91 is checking the transfer portal this morning.
Igloo is clear #1 so far this year on the Island. No questions. Just results
Igloo is clear #1 so far this year on the Island. No questions. Just results
I don't disagree with this. Igloo are deep and talented.
I would put them in this order:
Igloo
Moose
91
then the rest:
Express
Legacy
Rebels black
A Rebels Vs 91 is needed.From what I know it would be a great matchup.
Rebels 29 black F/O guy is a 2028 and heard they bought down other 28’s for tristar. Hence why their 28 team pulled out of the tournament.
Eskimos beat Rebs by 1. This group is wide open
Eskimos beat Rebs by 1. This group is wide open
It’s not wide open. By summer it will be the top 3 of Igloo, Moose and 91 like it is right now.
Igloo and Moose already out of the gate well ahead with Igloo atop the charts no doubt about it. 91 should be able to pull it together after a (disasterous) slow start as they did last year after losses to both Igloo and Mooselax. Express better use a lifeline and call for help. Legacy is entered in the B bracket at NAL. Rebels are improved but will be soundly beaten by any good team.
Eskimos beat Rebs by 1. This group is wide open
It’s not wide open. By summer it will be the top 3 of Igloo, Moose and 91 like it is right now.
Igloo and Moose already out of the gate well ahead with Igloo atop the charts no doubt about it. 91 should be able to pull it together after a (disasterous) slow start as they did last year after losses to both Igloo and Mooselax. Express better use a lifeline and call for help. Legacy is entered in the B bracket at NAL. Rebels are improved but will be soundly beaten by any good team.
Rebels vs Igloo 1 Goal Game
Rebels vs Leading Edge 1 Goal Game
Rebels also crushed 2Way and Primetime.
They are legit, good to have another team in the mix. Competition makes all better.
What people fail to realize with these dense rankings is the more competitive teams on LI, the better for the kids. Iron sharpens Iron.
Not sure about other teams, but Rebels with be training, and practices 3 times a week all winter. Nice to Own an indoor facility.
Not sure about other teams, but Rebels with be training, and practices 3 times a week all winter. Nice to Own an indoor facility.
And if you think that’s a good thing for your kid, you’ve never played a sport beyond 6th grade. Get the number of a great PT and Orthopedic Surgeon, you’re going to need them both.
Rebels director loves to come on here and promote the densest things, lol
No one works their kids harder! If you want your kids to detest lacrosse by HS, come to the Rebels
It’s great they are so enthusiastic about their program, but it’s constant across all age groups and has become annoying. Most of their parents dont have a clue, and they think they are the greatest teams in the country. Fact is, it all changes quickly come High School.
It’s great they are so enthusiastic about their program, but it’s constant across all age groups and has become annoying. Most of their parents dont have a clue, and they think they are the greatest teams in the country. Fact is, it all changes quickly come High School.
Def more overreactions and shade from sideline experts than anything else on these boards. The Rebels hype machine has slowed down alot since tryouts but people still take shots.
It’s great they are so enthusiastic about their program, but it’s constant across all age groups and has become annoying. Most of their parents dont have a clue, and they think they are the greatest teams in the country. Fact is, it all changes quickly come High School.
Def more overreactions and shade from sideline experts than anything else on these boards. The Rebels hype machine has slowed down alot since tryouts but people still take shots.
While my son plays on a different club, I have no problem with the Rebels as an organization. Yes, a lot of their parents appear a little, lets call it 'overzealous'. But the directors are passionate and do appear to be going all-out and committed to developing their players. Nothing really shady about them.
Anyone who says the Rebels @ this age group have not improved tremendously has no clue.The coach that came over from the 91 team has done a tremendous job.Just goes to show what’s going on with that 91 team.
That has now changed their name.Looks like they can not even get that figured out.And I also read that the head coach refused to shake hands in one of the games?Anyone know what that was about?
Not the first time, nor will it be the last time that coach refuses to shake hands. Rebels Nation is for real!!!
Rankings ? Hello? Anyone? Last year at this time the rankings were updated almost weekly.I guess they are changing the formula so people do not have to deal with reality.
Rankings ? Hello? Anyone? Last year at this time the rankings were updated almost weekly.I guess they are changing the formula so people do not have to deal with reality.
Igloo dad chomping at the bit to get a top ten.
91 hasn’t played enough yet so you won’t get to soil yourself with them showing outside the top 20.
Usually on Thursdays and teams have to play a certain number of games to be able to calculate. It’s still early
Rankings ? Hello? Anyone? Last year at this time the rankings were updated almost weekly.I guess they are changing the formula so people do not have to deal with reality.
Just put your rankings in here, Sam’s thing. Or maybe they realize what a joke they are and not bothering. It’s causing adults to drag their kids across the country to play smaller kids all for IG. It turned into who got the biggest, oldest kid on tournament teams to play the true club teams that practice all year together and then post and brag about it.
Rankings ? Hello? Anyone? Last year at this time the rankings were updated almost weekly.I guess they are changing the formula so people do not have to deal with reality.
Ranking what? It’s club lacrosse not D-1 NCAA, ranking 7th grade club is silly and doesn’t mean a thing, unless you’re bragging to your work buddy about your student 7th grader. Get a grip.
I believe everyone know they mean nothing.And I think the point trying to be made is that when 91 is ranked high the parents and organization promotes the heck out of it.And I believe the point has gotten across and kudos to the author.Just reading the reactions of the 91 daddy’s is priceless!Again it shows the true culture.Rankings are only relevant when 91 says so!
I believe everyone know they mean nothing.And I think the point trying to be made is that when 91 is ranked high the parents and organization promotes the heck out of it.And I believe the point has gotten across and kudos to the author.Just reading the reactions of the 91 daddy’s is priceless!Again it shows the true culture.Rankings are only relevant when 91 says so!
I don’t recall anyone promoting the rankings last year in the 29 thread.
Rankings ? Hello? Anyone? Last year at this time the rankings were updated almost weekly.I guess they are changing the formula so people do not have to deal with reality.
Just put your rankings in here, Sam’s thing. Or maybe they realize what a joke they are and not bothering. It’s causing adults to drag their kids across the country to play smaller kids all for IG. It turned into who got the biggest, oldest kid on tournament teams to play the true club teams that practice all year together and then post and brag about it.
Amen to that. But they have a point, suddenly rankings don’t matter and we all know why!!
Send an email to us club lax?
Ask them why the 29 91 team is holding up the rankings for every grade.
Chaos is full of pride, you’ll be waiting a while for those rankings! Who. Cares anyway, it’s all bs now that National teams are involved. There are maybe a handful of actual teams in top 20 the rest are all star teams made up of 2028s playing down.
For anyone playing in Fall Brawl this weekend, watch out to see if Legacy East brings 2028 players. Word is they don't have enough players to field a team.
Express retained some pride and is playing in the better bracket at NAL. Surprised that EN and Sweetlax Upstate are in the lower one.
For anyone playing in Fall Brawl this weekend, watch out to see if Legacy East brings 2028 players. Word is they don't have enough players to field a team.
Probably since Legacy East 2028 is not playing. Why did Legacy Predators drop out? Might see some of those players as well.
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Absolutely! Suddenly WS isn’t important. These clubs like 91 & express are behind the scenes at many events and clinics. They are constantly trying to pull the strings. Promote their brand by any means necessary.
For anyone playing in Fall Brawl this weekend, watch out to see if Legacy East brings 2028 players. Word is they don't have enough players to field a team.
Probably since Legacy East 2028 is not playing. Why did Legacy Predators drop out? Might see some of those players as well.
Legacy East 2028 isn't very good, so I doubt it'll help much
Legacy East 2028 looked good last tournament, it could have something to do with brining a bunch of Lumberjax starters to play with them
Legacy East 2028 looked good last tournament, it could have something to do with brining a bunch of Lumberjax starters to play with them
FACTS, That did happen
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Absolutely! Suddenly WS isn’t important. These clubs like 91 & express are behind the scenes at many events and clinics. They are constantly trying to pull the strings. Promote their brand by any means necessary.
The World Series is being moved to the east coast. Both of those teams will now be participating.
Legacy East 2028 looked good last tournament, it could have something to do with brining a bunch of Lumberjax starters to play with them
FACTS, That did happen
Saw .the post with a huge roster, now I get it.
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Absolutely! Suddenly WS isn’t important. These clubs like 91 & express are behind the scenes at many events and clinics. They are constantly trying to pull the strings. Promote their brand by any means necessary.
The World Series is being moved to the east coast. Both of those teams will now be participating.
Is that confirmed that the tantrum worked?
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Absolutely! Suddenly WS isn’t important. These clubs like 91 & express are behind the scenes at many events and clinics. They are constantly trying to pull the strings. Promote their brand by any means necessary.
The World Series is being moved to the east coast. Both of those teams will now be participating.
Is that confirmed that the tantrum worked?
It’s confirmed that you will no longer need plane tickets. 2.5 - 3 hour drive from LI. You should thank all the clubs who balked at going out west. It’s not like the west coast was suddenly putting together age appropriate teams to populate the tournament.
Tantrum or not, in all sports you want the best teams playing and not having Express and/or 91 playing diminishes the quality of the tournament.
Honestly yes.29 is not the only struggling age group for 91 right now.Last year at this time the rankings were being updated after every tournament that 91 teams did well in.And to the people who claim that rankings were not a hot topic last year?Please do your homework!
There are plenty of 91 /US Club lax connections.
And I do believe the comment was also aimed at the social media outlets for the 91 organization promoting the rankings along with the individual all star accolades.
Absolutely! Suddenly WS isn’t important. These clubs like 91 & express are behind the scenes at many events and clinics. They are constantly trying to pull the strings. Promote their brand by any means necessary.
The World Series is being moved to the east coast. Both of those teams will now be participating.
Is that confirmed that the tantrum worked?
W.S. Is in Minnesota
Express or 91 not winning no matter where it’s played.
Legacy East 2028 looked good last tournament, it could have something to do with brining a bunch of Lumberjax starters to play with them
FACTS, That did happen
So now legacy is doing what express is doing on 28’s
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
So you’re saying that everyone cheats but 91 and express are just more successful at cheating than igloo and moose?
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
They’ll both be bringing their age eligible 28’s i’m sure
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
They’ll both be bringing their age eligible 28’s i’m sure
Thought the eligibility worked where you pick where you can play based on your birthday/grad year and you stay in that lane? Being able to just switch because you're technically age eligible, but not that grad year doesn't make sense.
As long as the players are born on or after 9/1/2010 they are eligible. Express 91 and everyone else will bring 28s down. As is typical with this message board igloo rebels etc won’t be happy and I’m sure disgruntled.
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
They’ll both be bringing their age eligible 28’s i’m sure
Thought the eligibility worked where you pick where you can play based on your birthday/grad year and you stay in that lane? Being able to just switch because you're technically age eligible, but not that grad year doesn't make sense.
Club Lacrosse is by grade. So you could have a kid left or held back a year or reclassed and they could still play because they are in the same grade as the others, regardless of age.
The World Series is by age with birth certificate checks. So regardless of grade, as long as one meets the birthdate cut off, then they are eligible.
And herein lies the problem with all events. People will complain when 28’s come play the worldseries. People will complain when teams show up to 2029 events next summer with 14 and 15 year olds.
It can be confusing.
Only thing not confusing is that Long Island teams typically dominate on age play.
Every team cheats, hence why that statement above is wrong, express and 91 will find players and they will compete. Igloo Moose etc have no shot at the WS
They’ll both be bringing their age eligible 28’s i’m sure
Thought the eligibility worked where you pick where you can play based on your birthday/grad year and you stay in that lane? Being able to just switch because you're technically age eligible, but not that grad year doesn't make sense.
Club Lacrosse is by grade. So you could have a kid left or held back a year or reclassed and they could still play because they are in the same grade as the others, regardless of age.
The World Series is by age with birth certificate checks. So regardless of grade, as long as one meets the birthdate cut off, then they are eligible.
And herein lies the problem with all events. People will complain when 28’s come play the worldseries. People will complain when teams show up to 2029 events next summer with 14 and 15 year olds.
It can be confusing.
Only thing not confusing is that Long Island teams typically dominate on age play.
They probably should with 10 million kids to select from, and still have above age kids on their teams. Wink, wink. They still can’t get them on the same team so they find excuses for why they lose to northern and southern teams. Go to Minnesota and enjoy your tournament, we will be waiting this summer to smack your on age kids around, and your holdbacks to. Stop the lies!!!
When did a Maryland team win the World Series?
Only thing not confusing is that Long Island teams typically dominate on age play.
False. Look at last year's WS Final. The differing cutoff dates betw states definitely help add to the confusion (Dec - NY, Sept - elsewhere). This is why USLax sets recommended age guidelines (Sept 2009 - Dec 2010). More LI Public School kids are playing lacrossse than in any other area of the country. Look at how many Club Teams you have for just 2 Counties. Holdbacks are not a Regional Issue, it is an Economic one. Reclassing from Public to Private may be the only way to reclass after starting Kindergarten late. Check out College rosters of the Top programs in the Country, especially the Ivy League - most Freshman are not coming from LI Public Schools. People that afford to send their kid to Private HS can also afford to start them late for Kindergarten. Why not give this kid as much of an advantage as possible? It's not cheating, if it works. Most people, in the same situ, would do the same. Look no further than your LI Club sidelines, where the majority of your Coaches, who know this, are probably doing the same for their families. Look at your LI Clubs who promote the #1 recruits in the country but don't post their ages, or, sadly, how many different High Schools they went to.
Only thing not confusing is that Long Island teams typically dominate on age play.
False. Look at last year's WS Final. The differing cutoff dates betw states definitely help add to the confusion (Dec - NY, Sept - elsewhere). This is why USLax sets recommended age guidelines (Sept 2009 - Dec 2010). More LI Public School kids are playing lacrossse than in any other area of the country. Look at how many Club Teams you have for just 2 Counties. Holdbacks are not a Regional Issue, it is an Economic one. Reclassing from Public to Private may be the only way to reclass after starting Kindergarten late. Check out College rosters of the Top programs in the Country, especially the Ivy League - most Freshman are not coming from LI Public Schools. People that afford to send their kid to Private HS can also afford to start them late for Kindergarten. Why not give this kid as much of an advantage as possible? It's not cheating, if it works. Most people, in the same situ, would do the same. Look no further than your LI Club sidelines, where the majority of your Coaches, who know this, are probably doing the same for their families. Look at your LI Clubs who promote the #1 recruits in the country but don't post their ages, or, sadly, how many different High Schools they went to.
The statement was LI “typically” dominates on age play.
You pointed to one year an LI team didn’t win the WS. The first time in how many years? Alot, i won’t bother to count.
You went through that whole word salad for nothing.
LI kids typically dominate on age play. That’s a fact.
You want to get into economics and privilege and college rosters? The benefits to reclassing and private high schools? That’s another conversation.
LI kids dominate on age.
I almost think it’s less socioeconomic than provincial. Plenty of dough out here but culturally Long Island has never been big into the New England prep school thing regardless of lacrosse. There are exceptions of course, but I wonder if playing for the best league in the country will entice more kids to leave the island.
I almost think it’s less socioeconomic than provincial. Plenty of dough out here but culturally Long Island has never been big into the New England prep school thing regardless of lacrosse. There are exceptions of course, but I wonder if playing for the best league in the country will entice more kids to leave the island.
St Anthonys and Chaminade are a fraction of the price of those schools.
I would bet if those New England schools popped up on the sidelines with tuition incentives putting them on par price wise with the above you might see more kids leave and try it out. As it is, I think they get plenty of business from the New England area and don’t need to run fire sales for lax players.
The prep schools have endowments and aid packages larger than most colleges. Should not rule it based on sticker price.
Price aside they’re insanely hard to get into and stay in. Meatheads like us better off staying here and trolling blogs.
I almost think it’s less socioeconomic than provincial. Plenty of dough out here but culturally Long Island has never been big into the New England prep school thing regardless of lacrosse. There are exceptions of course, but I wonder if playing for the best league in the country will entice more kids to leave the island.
St Anthonys and Chaminade are a fraction of the price of those schools.
I would bet if those New England schools popped up on the sidelines with tuition incentives putting them on par price wise with the above you might see more kids leave and try it out. As it is, I think they get plenty of business from the New England area and don’t need to run fire sales for lax players.
Why travel when we have 2 of the best schools here? No reason.
Why travel when we have 2 of the best schools here? No reason.
How to say “I’m a LI meathead” without sayin “I’m a LI meathead”. Doubt you’re qualified to mop the floors at those 2 schools.
Why travel when we have 2 of the best schools here? No reason.
How to say “I’m a LI meathead” without sayin “I’m a LI meathead”. Doubt you’re qualified to mop the floors at those 2 schools.
The only good education you can get is in CT for 75k a year, everyone knows that.
Tough weekend for express. Again.
Thoughts on NAL this weekend?
Tough weekend for express. Again.
daddyball is up and running
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Tough weekend for express. Again.
daddyball is up and running
You get what you pay for….lol
Express parents must be thrilled.
Tough weekend for express. Again.
daddyball is up and running
You get what you pay for….lol
Express parents must be thrilled.
Moran not even there to stop it.
Talk about being sold a bill of goods.
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
What’s wrong……..Coach C and Coach M handing over the reigns to Daddy Coaches?
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
They’re older
What’s wrong……..Coach C and Coach M handing over the reigns to Daddy Coaches?
Wasn’t the original coach who I think technically is still the head coach a daddy coach of the 29 Aa team?
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
They’re older
Saw igloo play the first game one of the west coast teams definitely looked like and off game for them vs what I have seen of them at the last two tournaments . That was one game that just slipped away from them definitely a team they can beat if/when playing best of ability. But to their credit have to say they are the best LI team for the fall having swept all the supposed top teams
Tough weekend for express. Again.
daddyball is up and running
You get what you pay for….lol
Express parents must be thrilled.
Moran not even there to stop it.
Talk about being sold a bill of goods.
the season has become a joke.
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
They’re older
Saw igloo play the first game one of the west coast teams definitely looked like and off game for them vs what I have seen of them at the last two tournaments . That was one game that just slipped away from them definitely a team they can beat if/when playing best of ability. But to their credit have to say they are the best LI team for the fall having swept all the supposed top teams
They were the best team in the fall last year as well.
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
They’re older
Saw igloo play the first game one of the west coast teams definitely looked like and off game for them vs what I have seen of them at the last two tournaments . That was one game that just slipped away from them definitely a team they can beat if/when playing best of ability. But to their credit have to say they are the best LI team for the fall having swept all the supposed top teams
They were the best team in the fall last year as well.
Who do you see being the best come spring summer then based on your comment?
Overall weak entry list for Saturday at Stony Brook. A “get right” tournament for 91 if there ever was one.
Rough weekend for LI teams at NAL.
Yes and no. By that measure, this was a rough weekend for anyone that isn’t a national team (including west coast stars) or 3d NE. Speaking of which, any idea what happened with 3d? Didn’t see them play but seems like They got a lot better.
They’re older
Saw igloo play the first game one of the west coast teams definitely looked like and off game for them vs what I have seen of them at the last two tournaments . That was one game that just slipped away from them definitely a team they can beat if/when playing best of ability. But to their credit have to say they are the best LI team for the fall having swept all the supposed top teams
They were the best team in the fall last year as well.
Who do you see being the best come spring summer then based on your comment?
I’m not going to make any more predictions. I was wrong last year when I predicted based off the fall. 2 teams (91 and Express) both went opposite ways of what I thought they would after their fall performances.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
Not sure who yiu’re aiming this at. All the top teams here on LI at this grade (Igloo/Moose/91/Express) play top 10 teams multiple times throughout fall/spring/summer. And they even play teams known for holdbacks: 2Way, 3D New England, Laxachusetts, Eclipse, West Coast Starz, Nationals LC, Leading Edge, Mad Dog Elite, Next Level. And the list goes on. Actually alot of credit should be given as all of the LI teams at this grade have been on age from the get go and competed with all these others.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
Not sure who yiu’re aiming this at. All the top teams here on LI at this grade (Igloo/Moose/91/Express) play top 10 teams multiple times throughout fall/spring/summer. And they even play teams known for holdbacks: 2Way, 3D New England, Laxachusetts, Eclipse, West Coast Starz, Nationals LC, Leading Edge, Mad Dog Elite, Next Level. And the list goes on. Actually alot of credit should be given as all of the LI teams at this grade have been on age from the get go and competed with all these others.
Agree, the only LI holdbacks are for academics not sports like the others. The public school system is not a selling point.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
Not sure who yiu’re aiming this at. All the top teams here on LI at this grade (Igloo/Moose/91/Express) play top 10 teams multiple times throughout fall/spring/summer. And they even play teams known for holdbacks: 2Way, 3D New England, Laxachusetts, Eclipse, West Coast Starz, Nationals LC, Leading Edge, Mad Dog Elite, Next Level. And the list goes on. Actually alot of credit should be given as all of the LI teams at this grade have been on age from the get go and competed with all these others.
Not sure how the new rules apply. If it doesn’t become truly “on age”, you’re all going to be in for a rude awakening. The disparity will become blatantly obvious for the next two years. Sorry for the dose of reality to the igloo and moose cheerleaders on here. Kiss the championship T-shirts goodbye for now.
The silver lining is it will make your kids become better players for sure and benefit them in the long run.
This issue has been beaten to death. One side is frustrated because they want fair competition and the other likes telling them that it’s going to make their kids better. The truth is playing older kids in a tournament is not making them better it’s making the parents of the older kids feel better. If you truly believe that, then you must have a 2030 or 2031 playing up with the 2029’s which is why you’re on this thread. Doubt it. Practicing all year with older kids would likely make a better player but a game at a tournament just discourages kids. It’s cheating and everyone knows it no matter how you justify it.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
Not sure who yiu’re aiming this at. All the top teams here on LI at this grade (Igloo/Moose/91/Express) play top 10 teams multiple times throughout fall/spring/summer. And they even play teams known for holdbacks: 2Way, 3D New England, Laxachusetts, Eclipse, West Coast Starz, Nationals LC, Leading Edge, Mad Dog Elite, Next Level. And the list goes on. Actually alot of credit should be given as all of the LI teams at this grade have been on age from the get go and competed with all these others.
Not sure how the new rules apply. If it doesn’t become truly “on age”, you’re all going to be in for a rude awakening. The disparity will become blatantly obvious for the next two years. Sorry for the dose of reality to the igloo and moose cheerleaders on here. Kiss the championship T-shirts goodbye for now.
The silver lining is it will make your kids become better players for sure and benefit them in the long run.
Thanks for that amazing insight genius. You’re the epitome of what’s wrong with youth sports today.
I never understood the issue with playing holdbacks/older kids. Let your kids play them, it will only make them better and get ready for high school. Who cares about a championship t-shirt or headband. Travel lacrosse is to train and get better and play tougher competition, not win championships that Mommy and Daddy can post on social media.
Not sure who yiu’re aiming this at. All the top teams here on LI at this grade (Igloo/Moose/91/Express) play top 10 teams multiple times throughout fall/spring/summer. And they even play teams known for holdbacks: 2Way, 3D New England, Laxachusetts, Eclipse, West Coast Starz, Nationals LC, Leading Edge, Mad Dog Elite, Next Level. And the list goes on. Actually alot of credit should be given as all of the LI teams at this grade have been on age from the get go and competed with all these others.
Not sure how the new rules apply. If it doesn’t become truly “on age”, you’re all going to be in for a rude awakening. The disparity will become blatantly obvious for the next two years. Sorry for the dose of reality to the igloo and moose cheerleaders on here. Kiss the championship T-shirts goodbye for now.
The silver lining is it will make your kids become better players for sure and benefit them in the long run.
Thanks for that amazing insight genius. You’re the epitome of what’s wrong with youth sports today.
I’m the epitome of what’s wrong with youth sports? Why is that? Because I came on here and responded to someone who was giving credit to the Long Island teams who competed with known holdback organizations in the past? Because I gave them a reality check that if the rules that have been in place for years are to continue, there will not be any competing with those teams for the next two years? Because I insinuated that igloo and moose, who are frequently mentioned on this forum, will not be winning much in the way of tournaments for the next two years?
Again, let me be clear because I apparently have to spell it out to you. I do not know how the new rules will apply to 2029 grads and how it will be enforced. I stated that. But here is what I do know. The win loss ratio of Long Island teams will take a hit if the rules are not enforced and if the holdback and reclass trend is allowed to continue. Let it be known that I believe that playing against better competition makes an athlete better and benefits them in the long run. I actually clearly stated that as well. Lacrosse should be age based. The only way a kid should be allowed to play down is if he is age appropriate. The only way a reclass or holdback should be able to play against his “new” grade is if he is age appropriate. However, as long as it’s not age based, 7th and 8th grade lacrosse will be dominated by holdback/reclass clubs. That is a fact. Ask any parent who has older kids who went through it. The disparity is most evident in those grades. Always has been and always will be if the rules do not change.
So once again I’m asking for a bit of clarification. How am I what’s wrong with youth sports?
World Series Qualifiers will be here before you know it. Get out on the wall around 8pm every night. That will roughly be the same temperature as the March Qualifier games in Delaware.
Stony Brook tomorrow will be good conditioning too…
This issue has been beaten to death. One side is frustrated because they want fair competition and the other likes telling them that it’s going to make their kids better. The truth is playing older kids in a tournament is not making them better it’s making the parents of the older kids feel better. If you truly believe that, then you must have a 2030 or 2031 playing up with the 2029’s which is why you’re on this thread. Doubt it. Practicing all year with older kids would likely make a better player but a game at a tournament just discourages kids. It’s cheating and everyone knows it no matter how you justify it.
Typical Biden Parent
The playing down debate …. Its never going to change and all we talk about how the on age kid is going to benefit playing against older kids …. So what is the benefit for the kid playing down ? Especially at this age where there is obviously growth disparity . If someone on here has a legit answer I’d love to hear it because that’s the real question that needs to be addressed . Does it make the off age kid better? Is it an ego booster what’s the real answer from someone who is actually doing it…. And yes my son is on age and I teach him to compete and play against the best competition he can because it will benefit him down the road. But if someone has a great answer as to why he should play down I’d love to hear it so maybe I can convince myself it’s a great idea for him
It doesn’t make that kid better but also doesn’t really make the kid worse either. Only benefit is for the college coaches. Essentially getting a red shirt freshman freshman year. An additional year of muscle growth and development.
The playing down debate …. Its never going to change and all we talk about how the on age kid is going to benefit playing against older kids …. So what is the benefit for the kid playing down ? Especially at this age where there is obviously growth disparity . If someone on here has a legit answer I’d love to hear it because that’s the real question that needs to be addressed . Does it make the off age kid better? Is it an ego booster what’s the real answer from someone who is actually doing it…. And yes my son is on age and I teach him to compete and play against the best competition he can because it will benefit him down the road. But if someone has a great answer as to why he should play down I’d love to hear it so maybe I can convince myself it’s a great idea for him
Great question
It doesn’t make that kid better but also doesn’t really make the kid worse either. Only benefit is for the college coaches. Essentially getting a red shirt freshman freshman year. An additional year of muscle growth and development.
Why not PG a year which is what happens in basketball a lot, why not hold them back going into freshman year in HS, Basically what your saying the benefit doesn't arrive until they become a HS player and maybe lucky enough to be a college player. You are only making the argument stronger for those that believe holdbacks at this age really makes no sense for the player playing down. Does anyone else have a better answer to justify holding a player down a year? I am being serious here I would totally consider it for my own kids if anyone has a good reason for it to happen before HS.
The playing down debate …. Its never going to change and all we talk about how the on age kid is going to benefit playing against older kids …. So what is the benefit for the kid playing down ? Especially at this age where there is obviously growth disparity . If someone on here has a legit answer I’d love to hear it because that’s the real question that needs to be addressed . Does it make the off age kid better? Is it an ego booster what’s the real answer from someone who is actually doing it…. And yes my son is on age and I teach him to compete and play against the best competition he can because it will benefit him down the road. But if someone has a great answer as to why he should play down I’d love to hear it so maybe I can convince myself it’s a great idea for him
It’s really quite the opposite. Play up, at least until high school. Get your [Censored] handed to you a few times. Get better. Playing down is the exact opposite of what I recommend if someone wants to get truly better.
It doesn’t make that kid better but also doesn’t really make the kid worse either. Only benefit is for the college coaches. Essentially getting a red shirt freshman freshman year. An additional year of muscle growth and development.
Why not PG a year which is what happens in basketball a lot, why not hold them back going into freshman year in HS, Basically what your saying the benefit doesn't arrive until they become a HS player and maybe lucky enough to be a college player. You are only making the argument stronger for those that believe holdbacks at this age really makes no sense for the player playing down. Does anyone else have a better answer to justify holding a player down a year? I am being serious here I would totally consider it for my own kids if anyone has a good reason for it to happen before HS.
PG only helps those that have a committment so they can be stashed at a prep school and not at a college roster for a year or for those who tell colleges way ahead of time (freshman or sophomore year( that they are going to PG.
[/quote] PG only helps those that have a committment so they can be stashed at a prep school and not at a college roster for a year or for those who tell colleges way ahead of time (freshman or sophomore year( that they are going to PG.[/quote]
There’s a lot of wannabe recruiting consultants on here spewing lies and falsehoods. The only time a coach will call a player is after September 1 of their Junior year. A PG may be recommended if the player’s grades aren’t as competitive as the rest of the incoming class, and the next year‘s class is weaker. There’s no way a College Coach is calling Freshmen and Sophomores and recommending they PG. It doesn't happen.- and you are delusional. It’s the same people who go nuts about the WSYL and also ask about showcases for 8th and 9th graders - get a grip. There’s a good chance you’re burning your kid out.
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
We’ve heard Parents telling others that their kid is already on a ‘Watch List’. Usually they are firstborn children of people from typically small or weak HS lacrosse programs. Chasing the dream is alive and well in youth lax.
[/quote] PG only helps those that have a committment so they can be stashed at a prep school and not at a college roster for a year or for those who tell colleges way ahead of time (freshman or sophomore year( that they are going to PG.
There’s a lot of wannabe recruiting consultants on here spewing lies and falsehoods. The only time a coach will call a player is after September 1 of their Junior year. A PG may be recommended if the player’s grades aren’t as competitive as the rest of the incoming class, and the next year‘s class is weaker. There’s no way a College Coach is calling Freshmen and Sophomores and recommending they PG. It doesn't happen.- and you are delusional. It’s the same people who go nuts about the WSYL and also ask about showcases for 8th and 9th graders - get a grip. There’s a good chance you’re burning your kid out.[/quote]
I guess that also makes you a wanna be recruiter too. They’re definitely kids who receive a commitment post Sep 1 and PG because the college wants them to so they don’t have to stash the athlete in their roster and can do so at a prep school. Then there are also sophomores or have not had any “official” contact with colleges but have declared their intentions to either reclass or PG. Colleges have not reached out to them but they have definitely been in contact with their coaches.
I do agree that the PG year is sometimes used to strengthen a player either academically or athletically but by and large they have their commitments in hand. Looking at the PGs this year alone in the New England West / Founders league 75% of them committed prior to their PG year.
You are completely delusional if you think conversations are not happening behind the scenes with coaches and high schools. How do you think so many commitments on Sep 1 actually happen? By magic?
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
Completely agree. We’ve taken a number of unofficial visits. Club coaches are the conduit. If your club coach isn’t having these conversations then he isn’t doing his job. We all spend too much money, time and effort to not be on top of this.
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
Completely agree. We’ve taken a number of unofficial visits. Club coaches are the conduit. If your club coach isn’t having these conversations then he isn’t doing his job. We all spend too much money, time and effort to not be on top of this.
My 2029 just committed. D1. Full ride. So glad the grind is over.
PG only helps those that have a committment so they can be stashed at a prep school and not at a college roster for a year or for those who tell colleges way ahead of time (freshman or sophomore year( that they are going to PG.
There’s a lot of wannabe recruiting consultants on here spewing lies and falsehoods. The only time a coach will call a player is after September 1 of their Junior year. A PG may be recommended if the player’s grades aren’t as competitive as the rest of the incoming class, and the next year‘s class is weaker. There’s no way a College Coach is calling Freshmen and Sophomores and recommending they PG. It doesn't happen.- and you are delusional. It’s the same people who go nuts about the WSYL and also ask about showcases for 8th and 9th graders - get a grip. There’s a good chance you’re burning your kid out.[/quote]
I guess that also makes you a wanna be recruiter too. They’re definitely kids who receive a commitment post Sep 1 and PG because the college wants them to so they don’t have to stash the athlete in their roster and can do so at a prep school. Then there are also sophomores or have not had any “official” contact with colleges but have declared their intentions to either reclass or PG. Colleges have not reached out to them but they have definitely been in contact with their coaches.
I do agree that the PG year is sometimes used to strengthen a player either academically or athletically but by and large they have their commitments in hand. Looking at the PGs this year alone in the New England West / Founders league 75% of them committed prior to their PG year.
You are completely delusional if you think conversations are not happening behind the scenes with coaches and high schools. How do you think so many commitments on Sep 1 actually happen? By magic?[/quote]
Thank you for your ridiculous thesis on the morals of youth lacrosse. You FAIL, no soup for you!
91 had to come back in the championship game to win near the end of the game that was dominated by LE. Kid from Venom bailed them out. Kid at X looked pretty good. Rest of the offense was non existent. Luckily their defense and goalies are pretty solid.
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
Completely agree. We’ve taken a number of unofficial visits. Club coaches are the conduit. If your club coach isn’t having these conversations then he isn’t doing his job. We all spend too much money, time and effort to not be on top of this.
My 2029 just committed. D1. Full ride. So glad the grind is over.
Look everyone it’s a complete BS artist. You’re special.
91 had to come back in the championship game to win near the end of the game that was dominated by LE. Kid from Venom bailed them out. Kid at X looked pretty good. Rest of the offense was non existent. Luckily their defense and goalies are pretty solid.
A 28 venom kid played on a 29 team?
PG only helps those that have a committment so they can be stashed at a prep school and not at a college roster for a year or for those who tell colleges way ahead of time (freshman or sophomore year( that they are going to PG.
There’s a lot of wannabe recruiting consultants on here spewing lies and falsehoods. The only time a coach will call a player is after September 1 of their Junior year. A PG may be recommended if the player’s grades aren’t as competitive as the rest of the incoming class, and the next year‘s class is weaker. There’s no way a College Coach is calling Freshmen and Sophomores and recommending they PG. It doesn't happen.- and you are delusional. It’s the same people who go nuts about the WSYL and also ask about showcases for 8th and 9th graders - get a grip. There’s a good chance you’re burning your kid out.
I guess that also makes you a wanna be recruiter too. They’re definitely kids who receive a commitment post Sep 1 and PG because the college wants them to so they don’t have to stash the athlete in their roster and can do so at a prep school. Then there are also sophomores or have not had any “official” contact with colleges but have declared their intentions to either reclass or PG. Colleges have not reached out to them but they have definitely been in contact with their coaches.
I do agree that the PG year is sometimes used to strengthen a player either academically or athletically but by and large they have their commitments in hand. Looking at the PGs this year alone in the New England West / Founders league 75% of them committed prior to their PG year.
You are completely delusional if you think conversations are not happening behind the scenes with coaches and high schools. How do you think so many commitments on Sep 1 actually happen? By magic?[/quote]
Thank you for your ridiculous thesis on the morals of youth lacrosse. You FAIL, no soup for you![/quote]
Plenty of darn good soup for me. It sure what you were reading but nowhere in there does it talk about the “morality” of lacrosse. It is merry staying the obvious that the majority of high level recruitment happens behind the scenes and at all ages from freshman-junior year.
You may not like it but that’s the system and it’s not immoral because that’s how the majority of business and politics are done in this country, behind the scenes and with connections. Do I like it for lacrosse? Absolutely not. Lacrosse has become the haves and have nots very quickly and there is a huge equity and access issue in lacrosse. Not immoral but I don’t like it. But my kids did fine regardless so I guess we got our soup
It's true that undergrad coaches can't talk to recruits until Sept 1 junior year. However, I have heard that some 7th and 8th graders are bypassing the traditional recruiting process and jumping straight to the college transfer portal. That's why these fall youth tournaments are so important. Most of the Ivy and ACC slots for '28s and '29s are already filled by doing this.
Completely agree. We’ve taken a number of unofficial visits. Club coaches are the conduit. If your club coach isn’t having these conversations then he isn’t doing his job. We all spend too much money, time and effort to not be on top of this.
My 2029 just committed. D1. Full ride. So glad the grind is over.
Look everyone it’s a complete BS artist. You’re special.
I can’t tell if you are serious or not. Did you not understand the joke?
91 had to come back in the championship game to win near the end of the game that was dominated by LE. Kid from Venom bailed them out. Kid at X looked pretty good. Rest of the offense was non existent. Luckily their defense and goalies are pretty solid.
A 28 venom kid played on a 29 team?
If you don’t know who he is by now you don’t really know ‘28 or ‘29 LI Lacrosse
91 had to come back in the championship game to win near the end of the game that was dominated by LE. Kid from Venom bailed them out. Kid at X looked pretty good. Rest of the offense was non existent. Luckily their defense and goalies are pretty solid.
A 28 venom kid played on a 29 team?
If you don’t know who he is by now you don’t really know ‘28 or ‘29 LI Lacrosse
Please fill me in. Is he a respectable 29’ that plays up as well, or a hated holdback?
From what I know he’s a true 2029. And he’s a machine!
From what I know he’s a true 2029. And he’s a machine!
Well that’s admirable and should be inspiring to the rest of these parents. Not the other way around!!
I’m sure other teams have 29’s playing for 28’s but 91 will be top contender if they elect to go to WS qualifiers with that #91 kid plus a healthy midfield. Will be hard to contain and that will open up their attack for a lot of scoring.
I’m sure other teams have 29’s playing for 28’s but 91 will be top contender if they elect to go to WS qualifiers with that #91 kid plus a healthy midfield. Will be hard to contain and that will open up their attack for a lot of scoring.
Not a 91 parent but true kid is a talent who has played up with the 28’s, a true 29. It does make them better when he is on the field. He is a great example of a player that played up to compete against a level of play he felt he could compete against. Great for him should be an example to the hold back parents. If he plays with the 29’s 91 will have a much better path to success. But everyone they play will know who the kid is and it will come down to coaching and the kids on the field as usual. One player in a team game will not define success for the team ,no doubt it will help but won’t guarantee anything. Is 91 all of a sudden playing for the WS? What changed ? Why?
Is 91 all of a sudden playing for the WS? What changed ? Why?
Location of championship has changed. East coast.
If that’s true, why have they updated the website with hotel links for Minneapolis in the last month?
Is that new Tristar tournament the same weekend getting 29 teams registered?
If that’s true, why have they updated the website with hotel links for Minneapolis in the last month?
make sure you book non-refundable
They sure are. Look at the Hawks outside the top 10!!!
I’ll wager that you won’t see Igloo dad here this Fall complaining about the rankings like he did last Fall.
Did 91 lose to Leading Edge? No score on tourneymachine and you check the socials of the club no picture of winning. Game not counted in the rankings. Something fishy going on. Not posting scores to maintain rankings?
91 beat LE. Scores should be updated. But who cares it’s the fall.
91 beat LE. Scores should be updated. But who cares it’s the fall.
Who cares if it’s the spring? Really who cares?
Probably all true but will anyone pull their kid from qualifiers to make a point? We’re all sheep and will go along with it like we always do.
Opposite. I’m putting my kid into the qualifiers to make a point that your kid can’t compete on age. Bring your kid or not, point made.
Exactly!! Everyone is tired of playing kids older even if they are following their own local school rules. Age based sports is the best. No one is impressed with your holdbacks, the Schellenberger, Spallina, and Millons of this wotld. They cheated for their own benefit and to the detriment of the kids they competed against in youth, H.S. and College. This is why the World Series is so popular with many people and why the location doesn’t stop teams from going.
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Sorry to bring up facts and all but didnt Spallina win multiple World Series of lacrosse?
It’s college lacrosse get over it
It’s college lacrosse get over it
Be quiet, no one is supposed to know. We don’t have holdbacks
It’s college lacrosse get over it
And he was a super senior in high school before that. Cheater!
Spallina ranked 116th in shot percentage last season.
Played his entire freshman season at 19 years old. Older for LI standards but younger than a large majority of every private / prep school kid from New England down to the mid-Atlantic to the far west coast.
Notice how 91 wanted the rules changed after he graduated...... LOL
Why does Rebels 2029 Black have WSYL in Philadelphia? They know something we don't?
Why does Rebels 2029 Black have WSYL in Philadelphia? They know something we don't?
Everyone knows what you don’t. It’s been said here a bunch of times as well. The championship event is moving back east. Minnesota was a no go for many clubs.
Notice how 91 wanted the rules changed after he graduated...... LOL
Ok - 91 and express are traditionally the youngest teams in the country. To say 91 wanted to change to a birth month model is wrong.
It’s college lacrosse get over it
And he was a super senior in high school before that. Cheater!
Nope, you should find a new sport, this one’s too tough for your kid. Soft
Played his entire freshman season at 19 years old. Older for LI standards but younger than a large majority of every private / prep school kid from New England down to the mid-Atlantic to the far west coast.
He lived in NY though buddy. In NY he’s a holdback cheater.
I don’t get all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over traveling to MN for the World Series. God forbid you have to hop on a plane rather than driving to a tournament. Plenty of families from CA, FL, TX, and the Midwest fly for every tournament. Buck up you sissies.
I don’t get all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over traveling to MN for the World Series. God forbid you have to hop on a plane rather than driving to a tournament. Plenty of families from CA, FL, TX, and the Midwest fly for every tournament. Buck up you sissies.
Great for those families. Those same families are the exact ones who show up with 14 and 15 year olds for 12 and 13 year old lacrosse. They deserve the travel tax.
I don’t get all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over traveling to MN for the World Series. God forbid you have to hop on a plane rather than driving to a tournament. Plenty of families from CA, FL, TX, and the Midwest fly for every tournament. Buck up you sissies.
Agreed but the tantrum was successful. I’m now ready to boycott any tournament that is not north of Maryland and south of Greenwich. That way we can just keep playing each other and rule the youth lacrosse message boards!
I don’t get all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth over traveling to MN for the World Series. God forbid you have to hop on a plane rather than driving to a tournament. Plenty of families from CA, FL, TX, and the Midwest fly for every tournament. Buck up you sissies.
Does this mean Express/TriStar will cancel that competing tournament?
location for World Series is listed on their website.
Downingtown, PA at United Sports Training Center
June 30 - July 3
Notice how 91 wanted the rules changed after he graduated...... LOL
Ok - 91 and express are traditionally the youngest teams in the country. To say 91 wanted to change to a birth month model is wrong.
Love to know what this is based on - I guess facts don’t matter. Most of the 91 and Express Coaches have held a kid back of their own - they are fully on board with this. How many go from public to private then another private then another private? Check the Duke Jr. or the Syr Soph.
My son plays on non Rebel club. Has been going to Sports plex training, it’s off the charts great.
Notice how 91 wanted the rules changed after he graduated...... LOL
Ok - 91 and express are traditionally the youngest teams in the country. To say 91 wanted to change to a birth month model is wrong.
Love to know what this is based on - I guess facts don’t matter. Most of the 91 and Express Coaches have held a kid back of their own - they are fully on board with this. How many go from public to private then another private then another private? Check the Duke Jr. or the Syr Soph.
detest to break it to you slick, but the rosters of pretty much every top D-1 program is nothing but rich kids from private schools. Better get on board or play d-3, that’s what’s left for Public school kids!
If that’s true, why have they updated the website with hotel links for Minneapolis in the last month?
It’s updated. With the new location.
detest to break it to you slick, but the rosters of pretty much every top D-1 program is nothing but rich kids from private schools. Better get on board or play d-3, that’s what’s left for Public school kids!
You got me. OK, meathead, remind me again what is wrong with NCAA D3 lacrosse?
detest to break it to you slick, but the rosters of pretty much every top D-1 program is nothing but rich kids from private schools. Better get on board or play d-3, that’s what’s left for Public school kids!
You got me. OK, meathead, remind me again what is wrong with NCAA D3 lacrosse?
He should know, he was one of those prep school kids who had to reclass to compete with the public school kids. Now he puffs his chest talking about his prep school team in the lunch room at his lax bro job in finance where he makes less money than most of those public school kids. He lives in the house his parents left him in the neighborhood he grew up in where he struggles to pay the property taxes and country club fees so he can keep up with his neighbors lifestyles. This is all he has is, spewing his detest on an online child sports board.
detest to break it to you slick, but the rosters of pretty much every top D-1 program is nothing but rich kids from private schools. Better get on board or play d-3, that’s what’s left for Public school kids!
You got me. OK, meathead, remind me again what is wrong with NCAA D3 lacrosse?
He should know, he was one of those prep school kids who had to reclass to compete with the public school kids. Now he puffs his chest talking about his prep school team in the lunch room at his lax bro job in finance where he makes less money than most of those public school kids. He lives in the house his parents left him in the neighborhood he grew up in where he struggles to pay the property taxes and country club fees so he can keep up with his neighbors lifestyles. This is all he has is, spewing his detest on an online child sports board.
You’re right, all except the property taxes and CC dues, that’s easy, I do have dad’s company after all. Hey we’re hiring guys to clean the toilets on the overnight, you interested?
detest to break it to you slick, but the rosters of pretty much every top D-1 program is nothing but rich kids from private schools. Better get on board or play d-3, that’s what’s left for Public school kids!
You got me. OK, meathead, remind me again what is wrong with NCAA D3 lacrosse?
He should know, he was one of those prep school kids who had to reclass to compete with the public school kids. Now he puffs his chest talking about his prep school team in the lunch room at his lax bro job in finance where he makes less money than most of those public school kids. He lives in the house his parents left him in the neighborhood he grew up in where he struggles to pay the property taxes and country club fees so he can keep up with his neighbors lifestyles. This is all he has is, spewing his detest on an online child sports board.
You’re right, all except the property taxes and CC dues, that’s easy, I do have dad’s company after all. Hey we’re hiring guys to clean the toilets on the overnight, you interested?
He definitely was a reclass. Sounds like a little man overcompensating for something else.
So now that the temper tantrum worked for 91 and express are they both going to qualifiers for the WS?
So now that the temper tantrum worked for 91 and express are they both going to qualifiers for the WS?
Only if they can complain about Express North and 2way cheating.
So now that the temper tantrum worked for 91 and express are they both going to qualifiers for the WS?
Only if they can complain about Express North and 2way cheating.
That’s the 28’s
And that 2Way team are known cheaters; repeat offenders
So now that the temper tantrum worked for 91 and express are they both going to qualifiers for the WS?
Only if they can complain about Express North and 2way cheating.
The 2way kids are from Greenwich and can afford to submit forged passports and fake report cards. Everyone knows this.
Before this gets affirmation from you lunatics, I’m kidding.
Just play the game and stop complaining. Younger Kids, older kids, who cares. If your kid starts Varsity as a Freshman, are you going to complain he is going against a Senior? Come on!! Teams will qualify, teams will lose first round, a team with win the WSYL, it does nothing for them except make memories. By the way, not all holdbacks are done for lacrosse. Most are done because the child is young and it will help with school and maturity. Grow up people.
Just play the game and stop complaining. Younger Kids, older kids, who cares. If your kid starts Varsity as a Freshman, are you going to complain he is going against a Senior? Come on!! Teams will qualify, teams will lose first round, a team with win the WSYL, it does nothing for them except make memories. By the way, not all holdbacks are done for lacrosse. Most are done because the child is young and it will help with school and maturity. Grow up people.
I don’t know a single kid that was held back for being young or immature.. I know MANY lacrosse holdbacks! I think that is true for most people. So yeh we have a problem with it. These kids are not in H.S. or College. They should have the ability to play kids their own age. If you need to be held back for being immature or for academic reasons you should still have to play travel ball with your age.
Children are held back in pre-school and kindergarten for maturity/growth…not 6th, 7th, 8th grade like we are seeing everywhere today.
Find another excuse for your kid’s lack of talent
Children are held back in pre-school and kindergarten for maturity/growth…not 6th, 7th, 8th grade like we are seeing everywhere today.
Find another excuse for your kid’s lack of talent
Whatever. Let me know how your superstar does when he tries out for JV as a Freshman. Don’t be surprised if there are older kids on that team. I’m sure you’ll be on the phone with the AD: “Wait. My son played travel lacrosse, but now you’re telling me he still plays with older kids in 10th and maybe even 11th grades? Wait until I tell them on BOTC.” Yawn - get a grip.
Children are held back in pre-school and kindergarten for maturity/growth…not 6th, 7th, 8th grade like we are seeing everywhere today.
Find another excuse for your kid’s lack of talent
Whatever. Let me know how your superstar does when he tries out for JV as a Freshman. Don’t be surprised if there are older kids on that team. I’m sure you’ll be on the phone with the AD: “Wait. My son played travel lacrosse, but now you’re telling me he still plays with older kids in 10th and maybe even 11th grades? Wait until I tell them on BOTC.” Yawn - get a grip.
The issue at this age is that some kids have gone through puberty and some haven’t. It can make for stark differences. High school is fair game for reclasses.
HS and youth sports are vastly different; if you don’t recognize that, you are either naive or obtuse (probably both).
My son is a superstar…small too, but he’s taught to overcome it w dawg.
Good luck w your holdback son still not cracking varsity until Senior year - extra year for nothing, lol
HS and youth sports are vastly different; if you don’t recognize that, you are either naive or obtuse (probably both).
My son is a superstar…small too, but he’s taught to overcome it w dawg.
Good luck w your holdback son still not cracking varsity until Senior year - extra year for nothing, lol
Your small son has no future in this sport. He will be put at the back of the line by coaches looking for bigger kids. Happens every day, enjoy it now, it’s about to end.
I’m holding my kid back to gain an advantage on your kid. When you complain I will call your kid soft and say eventually he will have to play against older kids in a few years anyway so why complain now?
In a few years from now my kid will never have to play against older kids in H.S. though.
As a freshman on JV he will be the age of a sophomore. As a sophomore on JV he will be the age of a Junior. As a junior on Varsity he will be the age of a Senior. As a senior on Varsity he will be the age of a freshman in College. All the while I will tell you how your kid needs to toughen up and play up like a real man!
HS and youth sports are vastly different; if you don’t recognize that, you are either naive or obtuse (probably both).
My son is a superstar…small too, but he’s taught to overcome it w dawg.
Good luck w your holdback son still not cracking varsity until Senior year - extra year for nothing, lol
I recognize that youth sports is a pretty broad term and Club Lacrosse is only a small part of that.. But you should recognize this is a niche sport - age has nothing to do with it. When they start HS lacrosse, they are part of a pool of players - all difft sizes and ages. They need to be able to play, period. Stop complaining about things you cant control and get your kid better - tutoring, training, whatever they need. Your attitude is terrible - trying to make excuses and blame others to make your small, young son’s path easier. We cant help it your son was born in the Fall of 2011. Reality is they will always be younger than their classmates.
Children are held back in pre-school and kindergarten for maturity/growth…not 6th, 7th, 8th grade like we are seeing everywhere today.
Find another excuse for your kid’s lack of talent
Lack of talent? Your son must enjoy talking to you after a game.
HS and youth sports are vastly different; if you don’t recognize that, you are either naive or obtuse (probably both).
My son is a superstar…small too, but he’s taught to overcome it w dawg.
Good luck w your holdback son still not cracking varsity until Senior year - extra year for nothing, lol
I recognize that youth sports is a pretty broad term and Club Lacrosse is only a small part of that.. But you should recognize this is a niche sport - age has nothing to do with it. When they start HS lacrosse, they are part of a pool of players - all difft sizes and ages. They need to be able to play, period. Stop complaining about things you cant control and get your kid better - tutoring, training, whatever they need. Your attitude is terrible - trying to make excuses and blame others to make your small, young son’s path easier. We cant help it your son was born in the Fall of 2011. Reality is they will always be younger than their classmates.
You realize schools have freshman/JV and Varsity teams to account for the age/size difference right?
Hold your kid back again.
When you hold your son back, you are telling him he isn’t good enough; you are telling the world as well.
I recognize that youth sports is a pretty broad term and Club Lacrosse is only a small part of that.. But you should recognize this is a niche sport - age has nothing to do with it. When they start HS lacrosse, they are part of a pool of players - all difft sizes and ages. They need to be able to play, period. Stop complaining about things you cant control and get your kid better - tutoring, training, whatever they need. Your attitude is terrible - trying to make excuses and blame others to make your small, young son’s path easier. We cant help it your son was born in the Fall of 2011. Reality is they will always be younger than their classmates.
You realize schools have freshman/JV and Varsity teams to account for the age/size difference right?
Hold your kid back again.
Again, not entirely accurate - keep reaching. HS rosters are set by HS staffs and 11th graders do play on JV - nothing to do with age or size, just skill. You're gonna be real fun in the Varsity stands with your little man issues.
I recognize that youth sports is a pretty broad term and Club Lacrosse is only a small part of that.. But you should recognize this is a niche sport - age has nothing to do with it. When they start HS lacrosse, they are part of a pool of players - all difft sizes and ages. They need to be able to play, period. Stop complaining about things you cant control and get your kid better - tutoring, training, whatever they need. Your attitude is terrible - trying to make excuses and blame others to make your small, young son’s path easier. We cant help it your son was born in the Fall of 2011. Reality is they will always be younger than their classmates.
You realize schools have freshman/JV and Varsity teams to account for the age/size difference right?
Hold your kid back again.
Again, not entirely accurate - keep reaching. HS rosters are set by HS staffs and 11th graders do play on JV - nothing to do with age or size, just skill. You're gonna be real fun in the Varsity stands with your little man issues.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s so obvious and quite frankly, I am embarrassed for you.
Do you realize that when a middle school player is good enough to play up at the jv or varsity level, they have to take a physical strength and maturity test? This test is because they are playing with older kids who are at a very different stage of puberty. This test is not optional, it is mandated, and it is designed to protect kids who are not ready to play up. Well of course you wouldn’t know that. Blatantly obvious.
Well I hope you’re following me and can keep up. Read slow and try. So, if the test to play up exists, why are kids allowed to play down. The reality is, a player who plays down and was reclassed or held back, is going to be of high school age and playing against middle school age kids at some point on their travel team. So in your naive mind that is ok. Quick question for ya. Do they let 9th and 10th grade players play down on the middle school team? I know you’re smart enough to know that answer, right?
Please do yourself a favor and just let it go.
When you hold your son back, you are telling him he isn’t good enough; you are telling the world as well.
To all the holdbacks out there, THIS ^^^ succinctly blows away any other argument about reclass. But to beat a dead horse about reclassification
-is it illegal? no
-is it a competitive advantage? Yes
-did most kids who went on to the top lax colleges benefit from reclasisng? Yes but…
-do most kids who reclass benefit? No
-is there a difference between an age discrepancy in middle school lax and high school lax? Absolutely yes so to all the people saying you play older kids in high school, it’s just not the same for grade schoolers
-do high schools have freshman and JV teams? Yes
-is it worth the money? No
It’s not wrong or illegal to reclass. But let’s call a spade a spade: they just couldn’t excel at their own age group.
Kids reclass for any number of reasons It doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough at their own age It more than likely means they are playing their grad year but not their own age When they reclass they are now playing on age If you take 2029 - 91 express igloo as an example, most of the better players were born in 2010 So if a 2028 reclasses and is a 2010 birth date then they are actually playing on age.
Do you realize that when a middle school player is good enough to play up at the jv or varsity level, they have to take a physical strength and maturity test? This test is because they are playing with older kids who are at a very different stage of puberty. This test is not optional, it is mandated, and it is designed to protect kids who are not ready to play up. Well of course you wouldn’t know that. Blatantly obvious.
Well I hope you’re following me and can keep up. Read slow and try. So, if the test to play up exists, why are kids allowed to play down. The reality is, a player who plays down and was reclassed or held back, is going to be of high school age and playing against middle school age kids at some point on their travel team. So in your naive mind that is ok. Quick question for ya. Do they let 9th and 10th grade players play down on the middle school team? I know you’re smart enough to know that answer, right?
Please do yourself a favor and just let it go.
Based on these responses, it's clear you think you have a little 8th grader that will be asked to play up with the big boys at the HS. You've spent some time pouring over the requirements, how's he doing with his mile time? Good luck with that. Pulling an 8th grader to Varsity is done for many reasons. Mostly for development though, both the player's and the program's. Top HS programs do not usually have 9th graders on Varsity, let alone 8th.
You are getting yourself into a froth by confusing public health & safety requirements for middle school athletes playing in High School with private club lacrosse tournament participation requirements. That is apples to oranges. Public school rules are designed to protect the weaker players, like your son, and the private leagues are designed to showcase the best talent around for a certain Grad year. Completely different animals.
Kids reclass for any number of reasons It doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough at their own age It more than likely means they are playing their grad year but not their own age When they reclass they are now playing on age If you take 2029 - 91 express igloo as an example, most of the better players were born in 2010 So if a 2028 reclasses and is a 2010 birth date then they are actually playing on age.
I don't know what you mean by "playing on age". Using NLF/HoCo League age guidelines, players born between 6/1/2009 and 5/31/2010 must play as a 2028. Players born between 6/1/2011 and 5/31/2010 must play as a 2029. So if a 2028 players born 4/1/2010 reclasses and tries to play as a 2029 they are cheating.
If your to the point when your reclssing your kid it’s time to put down the stick and buy him a dirt bike!
Do you realize that when a middle school player is good enough to play up at the jv or varsity level, they have to take a physical strength and maturity test? This test is because they are playing with older kids who are at a very different stage of puberty. This test is not optional, it is mandated, and it is designed to protect kids who are not ready to play up. Well of course you wouldn’t know that. Blatantly obvious.
Well I hope you’re following me and can keep up. Read slow and try. So, if the test to play up exists, why are kids allowed to play down. The reality is, a player who plays down and was reclassed or held back, is going to be of high school age and playing against middle school age kids at some point on their travel team. So in your naive mind that is ok. Quick question for ya. Do they let 9th and 10th grade players play down on the middle school team? I know you’re smart enough to know that answer, right?
Please do yourself a favor and just let it go.
Based on these responses, it's clear you think you have a little 8th grader that will be asked to play up with the big boys at the HS. You've spent some time pouring over the requirements, how's he doing with his mile time? Good luck with that. Pulling an 8th grader to Varsity is done for many reasons. Mostly for development though, both the player's and the program's. Top HS programs do not usually have 9th graders on Varsity, let alone 8th.
You are getting yourself into a froth by confusing public health & safety requirements for middle school athletes playing in High School with private club lacrosse tournament participation requirements. That is apples to oranges. Public school rules are designed to protect the weaker players, like your son, and the private leagues are designed to showcase the best talent around for a certain Grad year. Completely different animals.
Your reading comprehension is poor at best. I clearly stated jv OR varsity, meaning the high school level in general. More kids play jv as 8th graders than you apparently realize. Also, the days of pulling kids up to the varsity level are not over. Only a select few have and will do it, but it is done. I know of at least 4 kids that played as 7th graders on their jv teams and I know of at least two 8th graders that played varsity minutes last year for respectable schools.
Also, I’m not about to get into it with you on a public forum about where my son plays, his size, or his ability. It’s about as classless as you making assumptions. And they are very big assumptions.
No assumptions needed. It’s probably a small school in Suffolk with very high travel lax participation rates but a crappy HS team. Take your pick, there’s so many. Respectable schools do not have 8th graders playing meaningful minutes. You are delusional, or your definition of respectable needs work. The Sr at Duke, maybe one of the best players in the world, did it for Bay Shore in 8th. Noone on LI has been at that level since.
This is an ignorant and non factual statement regarding the better players of these clubs and this age group.
Kids reclass for any number of reasons It doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough at their own age It more than likely means they are playing their grad year but not their own age When they reclass they are now playing on age If you take 2029 - 91 express igloo as an example, most of the better players were born in 2010 So if a 2028 reclasses and is a 2010 birth date then they are actually playing on age.
Most of these players are born in 2011.
What a great read, sounds like a lot of upset 2029 parents. Once the 28s reclass there goes your playing time. Enjoy the last year of watching your kid
Kids reclass for any number of reasons It doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough at their own age It more than likely means they are playing their grad year but not their own age When they reclass they are now playing on age If you take 2029 - 91 express igloo as an example, most of the better players were born in 2010 So if a 2028 reclasses and is a 2010 birth date then they are actually playing on age.
this is false for express.
No assumptions needed. It’s probably a small school in Suffolk with very high travel lax participation rates but a crappy HS team. Take your pick, there’s so many. Respectable schools do not have 8th graders playing meaningful minutes. You are delusional, or your definition of respectable needs work. The Sr at Duke, maybe one of the best players in the world, did it for Bay Shore in 8th. Noone on LI has been at that level since.
On that note I basically give up. Again, you lack the ability to take meaning from the written word. Thus you have poor reading comprehension.
I never said meaningful minutes.
I never said I was strictly talking about varsity.
I was talking about the idea that if a kid in middle school were to play up at the high school level they would need to pass the tests I mentioned. The test is in place because there is a disparity between a 9/10th grader and a 7/8th grader.
When you reclass or holdback you are in reality taking kids old enough to be in high school and playing them against middle school students. Your inability to grasp that concept is mind boggling.
When you hold your son back, you are telling him he isn’t good enough; you are telling the world as well.
To all the holdbacks out there, THIS ^^^ succinctly blows away any other argument about reclass. But to beat a dead horse about reclassification
-is it illegal? no
-is it a competitive advantage? Yes
-did most kids who went on to the top lax colleges benefit from reclasisng? Yes but…
-do most kids who reclass benefit? No
-is there a difference between an age discrepancy in middle school lax and high school lax? Absolutely yes so to all the people saying you play older kids in high school, it’s just not the same for grade schoolers
-do high schools have freshman and JV teams? Yes
-is it worth the money? No
It’s not wrong or illegal to reclass. But let’s call a spade a spade: they just couldn’t excel at their own age group.
detest to break it to you, but the facts lax on your little fantasy here. Look at every top roster at the best schools, all holdback prep schoolers, and here’s a tidbit of info, they’ll all do just great. This is a proven fact. Get over your under talented kid.
Love holdback Dads saying other people’s kids aren’t good. Your kid is only good BECAUSE he held back. Many top teams have their AA team scrimmage their B team a year older. These tend to be competitive games. Many of your B team kids would be AA level if they held back. Your AA player would be a superstar if they held back. You held back for a reason and everyone knows why. Don’t expect us to ignore facts. The ends don’t justify the means. Your kid will be forever labeled as a cheater, great parenting.
Its true for Express it just doesnt sit well because Express stinks at 29
On that note I basically give up. Again, you lack the ability to take meaning from the written word. Thus you have poor reading comprehension.
I never said meaningful minutes.
I never said I was strictly talking about varsity.
I was talking about the idea that if a kid in middle school were to play up at the high school level they would need to pass the tests I mentioned. The test is in place because there is a disparity between a 9/10th grader and a 7/8th grader.
When you reclass or holdback you are in reality taking kids old enough to be in high school and playing them against middle school students. Your inability to grasp that concept is mind boggling.
Thank you for giving up. You make no points at all. Plus you are all over this and the 2028 board railing against holdbacks. So sorry you live in a town with a weak lacrosse program that pulls kids up from Middle School to field their JV and Varsity teams. If we look at your orig rant, you are upset that your little guy plays against older kids in travel, but you are OK with him playing on your lame JV team because he took a test and ran a mile under 7 minutes. So, is your solution to have private club teams pass physicals before they step on the field this Spring and Summer? That is truly groundbreaking. Why not let the parents decide what is best for their kid? If you’re afraid of getting him hurt, maybe drop him down to the B division. AA is for the elite and clearly not for kids with foolish, ignorant parents who can’t grasp this concept.
You throw around insults about failing to comprehend these ridiculous rants but I’ll summarize: Older kids are bigger and stronger. If your kid is born late in the year, they are at a disadvantage to those born earlier. You can complain about it and try to make people feel guilty for their personal decisions, but, in the long run, Coaches want the best players. Faster and Bigger will always find a spot over the younger guy with the 5’8” Dad who started on JV in 7th grade.
On that note I basically give up. Again, you lack the ability to take meaning from the written word. Thus you have poor reading comprehension.
I never said meaningful minutes.
I never said I was strictly talking about varsity.
I was talking about the idea that if a kid in middle school were to play up at the high school level they would need to pass the tests I mentioned. The test is in place because there is a disparity between a 9/10th grader and a 7/8th grader.
When you reclass or holdback you are in reality taking kids old enough to be in high school and playing them against middle school students. Your inability to grasp that concept is mind boggling.
Thank you for giving up. You make no points at all. Plus you are all over this and the 2028 board railing against holdbacks. So sorry you live in a town with a weak lacrosse program that pulls kids up from Middle School to field their JV and Varsity teams. If we look at your orig rant, you are upset that your little guy plays against older kids in travel, but you are OK with him playing on your lame JV team because he took a test and ran a mile under 7 minutes. So, is your solution to have private club teams pass physicals before they step on the field this Spring and Summer? That is truly groundbreaking. Why not let the parents decide what is best for their kid? If you’re afraid of getting him hurt, maybe drop him down to the B division. AA is for the elite and clearly not for kids with foolish, ignorant parents who can’t grasp this concept.
You throw around insults about failing to comprehend these ridiculous rants but I’ll summarize: Older kids are bigger and stronger. If your kid is born late in the year, they are at a disadvantage to those born earlier. You can complain about it and try to make people feel guilty for their personal decisions, but, in the long run, Coaches want the best players. Faster and Bigger will always find a spot over the younger guy with the 5’8” Dad who started on JV in 7th grade.
There is no original rant. Follow along. You were called out for making a ridiculous comment about calling the AD complaining about age discrepancies in high school. Saying that a 15 year old red hot, west coast stars, 3D, hawk, etc player on a 7th or 8th grade team is the same as a 10th grader playing varsity against a 12th grader. It’s not. Multiple people have tried to explain this to you.
Read the room. You’re in the minority.
This guy has to have his kid play lacrosse because in any other sport you can’t holdback.
Your holdback son is weak; he’ll be weak all through life because you taught him to take shortcuts; you taught him sports’ success is everything, even if it means doing a grade twice. What’s sadder? Your son,
In all likelihood, won’t succeed in lax regardless. And that will crush him. Because he knows what you want out of him. He’ll be the typical divorced FLID sitting in a bar talking about how many township ‘chips he won
But at least you were able to brag to your buddies while he was in 7th grade!
Saying that a 15 year old red hot, west coast stars, 3D, hawk, etc player on a 7th or 8th grade team is the same as a 10th grader playing varsity against a 12th grader. It’s not. Multiple people have tried to explain this to you.
Read the room. You’re in the minority.
I doubt there are 15 year olds from any if those teams playing 7th Grade lacrosse. You exaggerate to make your little man point.
When you hold your son back, you are telling him he isn’t good enough; you are telling the world as well.
To all the holdbacks out there, THIS ^^^ succinctly blows away any other argument about reclass. But to beat a dead horse about reclassification
-is it illegal? no
-is it a competitive advantage? Yes
-did most kids who went on to the top lax colleges benefit from reclasisng? Yes but…
-do most kids who reclass benefit? No
-is there a difference between an age discrepancy in middle school lax and high school lax? Absolutely yes so to all the people saying you play older kids in high school, it’s just not the same for grade schoolers
-do high schools have freshman and JV teams? Yes
-is it worth the money? No
It’s not wrong or illegal to reclass. But let’s call a spade a spade: they just couldn’t excel at their own age group.
detest to break it to you, but the facts lax on your little fantasy here. Look at every top roster at the best schools, all holdback prep schoolers, and here’s a tidbit of info, they’ll all do just great. This is a proven fact. Get over your under talented kid.
Comprehension hard for you huh? It is actually spelled out in the post that all the top college kids have benefited from reclassing. It also spells out that the majority of those kids who do reclass do not end up at those colleges and don’t benefit.
Still don’t get it? If 10% of reclasses go on to do amazing things at those top d1 colleges that means 90% of reclasses don’t. So of course all those rosters are stocked with reclasses. What’s not shown are all the reclasses , which is the majority, don’t go on to top d1 schools.
I’m guessing your kid needed to reclass because he couldn’t keep up with his group. If he went on to one of those top schools then good for him. Chances are he didn’t and is stuck on the bench for some mid-low grade d1 roster
Saying that a 15 year old red hot, west coast stars, 3D, hawk, etc player on a 7th or 8th grade team is the same as a 10th grader playing varsity against a 12th grader. It’s not. Multiple people have tried to explain this to you.
Read the room. You’re in the minority.
I doubt there are 15 year olds from any if those teams playing 7th Grade lacrosse. You exaggerate to make your little man point.
Not the most common but it definitely happens. I remember when my 8th grade kid went to try out for the Under Armour combined 8th/9th team (back when it was in that format) there were 3 kids who who drove themselves there.
Saying that a 15 year old red hot, west coast stars, 3D, hawk, etc player on a 7th or 8th grade team is the same as a 10th grader playing varsity against a 12th grader. It’s not. Multiple people have tried to explain this to you.
Read the room. You’re in the minority.
I doubt there are 15 year olds from any if those teams playing 7th Grade lacrosse. You exaggerate to make your little man point.
Not the most common but it definitely happens. I remember when my 8th grade kid went to try out for the Under Armour combined 8th/9th team (back when it was in that format) there were 3 kids who who drove themselves there.
And all their Dads probably bragged for years on BOTC like this dolt.
Saying that a 15 year old red hot, west coast stars, 3D, hawk, etc player on a 7th or 8th grade team is the same as a 10th grader playing varsity against a 12th grader. It’s not. Multiple people have tried to explain this to you.
Read the room. You’re in the minority.
I doubt there are 15 year olds from any if those teams playing 7th Grade lacrosse. You exaggerate to make your little man point.
You’re wrong and once again proved you do not know what you’re talking about. There are many 15 year olds playing against 8th grade teams this year and there were plenty of them last spring/summer when the 28s were in 7th grade. Tell your son to pull up his Instagram account. He will point them out for you.
And truth be told, I’m glad I came back on here. The other posters absolutely ripping you and your inability to grasp things put a little smile on my face. Like I said, you’re very much in the minority.
Are these grade-based or age-based tournaments? If you are so upset about your kid’s safety, he should be playing in a grade-based B level tournament. You need to be realistic about your little guy’s abilities. If he struggles with the AA teams, drop him down where he’ll be safe and you won’t be so upset.
You confuse your limited observations as facts. Why do you care so much about the 2028s? This is a 2029 board. There are no 15 year olds playing on 7 grade teams - keep making stuff up to fit your alarmist narrative. Minority? I don’t think so. Lacrosse is very much dominated by the Private Schools and this will never change, no matter how much you rant and rave.
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
When you hold your son back, you are telling him he isn’t good enough; you are telling the world as well.
The world doesn’t care about lacrosse. As a matter of fact no one really cares about lacrosse. It’s a niche sport that the majority of the US could care less about. The scholarship money is paltry and the kids who play just aren’t good enough at football or basketball to get a real scholarship. Facts sting.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back. But the problem is the majority of holdbacks don’t go in to be a dominant player. You are so myopic you are only looking at the numerator and not the denominator. And as been already said, it’s lacrosse. A niche sport that the majority of the world doesn’t care about. Why would you holdback a year in this sport. Pride makes you do silly things sometimes. My feelings aren’t hurt my kid didn’t become a superstar as an on age athlete. He is doing quite fine.
Some good points on value vs cost. I think the holdback scenario works for some and not others each family has different reasons. With that said not sure i understand the holdback thought process but as a parent of a 2029 i know we will be forced to watch our children play against older kids this year and from what i hear it gets even worse next year. Even if we dont agree with it or apply rational thinking towards it we have no control over it.
As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back. [/quote]
6 of 11 Notre Dame recruits in the class of 2025 are NOT holdbacks. Their birthdates are on Inside Lacrosse. 6 of the 11 could have played in the World Series with the class of 2025 meaning they were born after 9/1/2006. Of the 5 that wouldn't have qualified for the WS, 2 were born in August '06 so they barely missed the cutoff.
Moral of the story . . . no, you do not have to hold back to be recruited to a top program or be a dominant D1 player. This is a falsehood holdback parents tell themselves and their kids to justify their decision.
#realstudsdontreclass
Here's the list . . .
2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06
Its true for Express it just doesnt sit well because Express stinks at 29
Express is obviously not great at 29 but most kids are 2011.
For now anyway.
That list proves you should holdback My 25 was born in aug 07 How does he compete with Oct 05? That’s a double holdback Unfortunately you’re just adding to the holdback case with the info above the players within reason are still on the older side for 25s Bad example
Its true for Express it just doesnt sit well because Express stinks at 29
Express is obviously not great at 29 but most kids are 2011.
For now anyway.
I can’t recall any top Express team that stunk. So just relax. It’s 7th grade lax, which is basically meaningless games that nobody remembers
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
Because they are older.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
Give it up. You cannot justify this one way or the other. Every parent makes their own decisions. Like the other poster said, control what you can and worry about your own situation but be realistic about the outcome. LI public kids used to walk onto NCAA programs. The landscape has changed with more areas are producing top talent. The undersized LI kid with great skills will be overlooked by the stronger and faster older kids from other regions.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
:"2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.[/quote]:
Wow.. You're quite the analyst. I would say you are badly in need of a hoppy pal..
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
Because they are older.
So you agree that holdbacks are better lacrosse players. Regardless of the circumstances they are better than on age athletes. Therefore those prized scholarships at the “top tier” schools go to the private school holdback. Not your public school on age.
As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back.
6 of 11 Notre Dame recruits in the class of 2025 are NOT holdbacks. Their birthdates are on Inside Lacrosse. 6 of the 11 could have played in the World Series with the class of 2025 meaning they were born after 9/1/2006. Of the 5 that wouldn't have qualified for the WS, 2 were born in August '06 so they barely missed the cutoff.
Moral of the story . . . no, you do not have to hold back to be recruited to a top program or be a dominant D1 player. This is a falsehood holdback parents tell themselves and their kids to justify their decision.
#realstudsdontreclass
Here's the list . . .
2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06[/quote]
Some of these may take a PG year essentially being stashed for a year making them a holdback. Quite common so I will be curious which of these will actually be in the roster of fall 2025
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
Give it up. You cannot justify this one way or the other. Every parent makes their own decisions. Like the other poster said, control what you can and worry about your own situation but be realistic about the outcome. LI public kids used to walk onto NCAA programs. The landscape has changed with more areas are producing top talent. The undersized LI kid with great skills will be overlooked by the stronger and faster older kids from other regions.
Give what up? You seem to be arguing with yourself. The value and costs are simply a list. Some think the value is better the cost and most see the cost as too much for the perceived value. I am merely making a list and asking people to add to their own value and costs or holding back. But if you are the [Censored] saying all parents are fools because “they don’t see the value in holdbacks”, I’m pointing out they aren’t fools because they see more of a cost associated with it. And I clearly said that “everyone has different values” so I’m not worried the least bit about controlling what other parents do
I would agree that a kid at 13 yrs old is better than the same kid at 12 years old. Holdbacks are cheaters. Most people when they find out you held back will give you no credit for anything you accomplish because you are a cheater.
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
Because they are older.
So you agree that holdbacks are better lacrosse players. Regardless of the circumstances they are better than on age athletes. Therefore those prized scholarships at the “top tier” schools go to the private school holdback. Not your public school on age.
Give me a break. $3.8 billion dollars was given last year in athletic scholarships for ALL sports. Over $48 billion was given in academic scholarships plus another $5 billion from the private sector. If that’s your justification on how to get money for college, get a tutor instead of holding him back for a “niche” sport. So clueless it boggles my mind.
Your cost / benefit analysis needs work. There are no facts, just feelings. Remove your feelings and you have nothing to base your pathetic rambling on. Big deal that you feel holdbacks are cheaters - noone cares.
Your cost / benefit analysis needs work. There are no facts, just feelings. Remove your feelings and you have nothing to base your pathetic rambling on. Big deal that you feel holdbacks are cheaters - noone cares.
You are a fraud becuase you cant come up with any reasons yourself. I think the list does a good job detailing why one should hold back and why one shouldnt. I am against holdbacks because I think it is contributing to the demise of the sport and it would be much better off if everyone just played on age. But i guess reading comprehension is tough tor you becuse I have detailed some reasons why some kids should holdback as it will benefit some but not most. But I can see your reason for holdbacks: daddy ego. Nothing else is relevant to you. Living your life through your child and that is the worst "pros" for doing it. Whats pathetic is your response; care to contribute something a little more than your ego? As to saying no one cares? I think there are a ton of people who care. "No one"? Ha, what an obtuse lost,
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
This guy brain dead?
You say alot but it’s all conjecture and opinion. If it is causing the demise of the sport, why do so many who have contributed to the game’s growth condone the practice? Most Coaches have done this with their own children and all D1 Coaches will continue to recruit the best eligible players, regardless of age. The truth is obvious and your little man crusade will go nowhere. Good luck to your B team JV son against the older, stronger, and faster.
As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back.
6 of 11 Notre Dame recruits in the class of 2025 are NOT holdbacks. Their birthdates are on Inside Lacrosse. 6 of the 11 could have played in the World Series with the class of 2025 meaning they were born after 9/1/2006. Of the 5 that wouldn't have qualified for the WS, 2 were born in August '06 so they barely missed the cutoff.
Moral of the story . . . no, you do not have to hold back to be recruited to a top program or be a dominant D1 player. This is a falsehood holdback parents tell themselves and their kids to justify their decision.
#realstudsdontreclass
Here's the list . . .
2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06[/quote]
And here I thought 2025s would have been born in 2007….lol
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
This guy brain dead?
Is your kid a subpar player?
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
This guy brain dead?
Anyone who spends this much time on this site going back and forth about 7th grade lacrosse is brain dead, that includes you!!!
Taking this to another level. Full disclosure that it’s third hand but was told that a prominent team in the tristate is pushing HGH on middle schoolers to accelerate puberty, and parents are agreeing to it…
[quote=Anonymous}
2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06[/quote]
In NY the age cutoff for 2025 was 12/06. Based on this list ,3 kids were age eligible for 2025 - the rest would be called cheaters by the moronic LI lax Dad thinking his som his going to play at ND.
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact
If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.
So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings
This guy brain dead?
Anyone who spends this much time on this site going back and forth about 7th grade lacrosse is brain dead, that includes you!!!
Why are you on here? Shouldn’t you be calling the school to hold your kid back again?
I think reclass Dad is right. Let’s all reclass our kids. Wonder how good reclass Dads kid will be when the whole grade reclasses?
You say alot but it’s all conjecture and opinion. If it is causing the demise of the sport, why do so many who have contributed to the game’s growth condone the practice? Most Coaches have done this with their own children and all D1 Coaches will continue to recruit the best eligible players, regardless of age. The truth is obvious and your little man crusade will go nowhere. Good luck to your B team JV son against the older, stronger, and faster.
Ha. Listen to yourself. Why do so many people who are getting rich want to keep getting richer? I’m gonna let you try and figure this out on your own but I’m not holding out up based on your level of intelligence..:
I think reclass Dad is right. Let’s all reclass our kids. Wonder how good reclass Dads kid will be when the whole grade reclasses?
Don’t worry. He will double reclass. The longer he can live through his sons achievements the better.
29 group is so bad it would help to bring some talent down
Seems like the children are posting here.
I was the OP of the ND data.
I agree that some of these kids will likely do a PG year, but thats not the point. The argument was made that you HAD to holdback to play big time D1. Most of these boys earned a spot at ND without holding back.
If you atr truly elite you dont have to hold back to go big10, ACC, Ivy.
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
Long Island is loaded at 29. Not 1-2 dominate team. 5 very good and 2-3 others good.
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
Taking this to another level. Full disclosure that it’s third hand but was told that a prominent team in the tristate is pushing HGH on middle schoolers to accelerate puberty, and parents are agreeing to it…
Yes, not going to say names but will share a clue. The initials B, B, L are in the name. It’s not a secret within the club.
That’s tough to believe I am not sure BBL would want that liability surrounding them I can see parents who are fool pushing it but not a club owner or director This seems far fetched
I’ve heard this as well and it blows my mind. The long term consequences of this kind of therapy is a complete unknown. The fact that it is widely accepted by the BBL families is a major red flag. Any NJ tourist perusing this board, please get the word out that this is completely F’d.
That’s tough to believe I am not sure BBL would want that liability surrounding them I can see parents who are fool pushing it but not a club owner or director This seems far fetched
You’re a fool if you believe this troll.
Express and 91 going to WS qualifiers?
Express and 91 going to WS qualifiers?
That seems pretty dead and just a sad tournament now.
A few middle age men have been working for years to pull off a WS team for their kid. Don’t ruin it for them now
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
The discussion was about holdbacks . . . not private vs public. I don't disagree that private kids make up the majority of the top tier D1 rosters. That doesn't mean they're hold backs. In most places in the US, public school lacrosse is lousy so good players gravitate to the privates whether they plan to hold back or not.
Yes, I chose ND because they are at the top of the heap right now. I presented facts. If you insist on spreading the myth that you have to hold back to go bigtime D1, please share the facts to back up your position.
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
The discussion was about holdbacks . . . not private vs public. I don't disagree that private kids make up the majority of the top tier D1 rosters. That doesn't mean they're hold backs. In most places in the US, public school lacrosse is lousy so good players gravitate to the privates whether they plan to hold back or not.
Yes, I chose ND because they are at the top of the heap right now. I presented facts. If you insist on spreading the myth that you have to hold back to go bigtime D1, please share the facts to back up your position.
Interesting conversation. I don’t think you need to be a holdback to commit to a top d1 program (top 20?). However the majority of top commits to these top programs are holdbacks, this years ND commits not withstanding. For the last several years, especially since 2020 most commits to these top programs are not on age especially the early September commits. Some are also PGs that are being stashed at prep schools to free up college roster sports. Thenproof (and I’m too lazy to crunch all the birthdays) has been show in IL recruitment database for the last 5 years.
I guess the confusion lies in the definition of “majority are holdbacks”. Is it 51%, 60% 75% 95%? If I had to say, it is somewhere between 65-70%. So you don’t NEED to holdback but it definitely is the norm, again only talking about top d1 and early commits.
And yes, prep schools are littered with not on age kids
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
The discussion was about holdbacks . . . not private vs public. I don't disagree that private kids make up the majority of the top tier D1 rosters. That doesn't mean they're hold backs. In most places in the US, public school lacrosse is lousy so good players gravitate to the privates whether they plan to hold back or not.
Yes, I chose ND because they are at the top of the heap right now. I presented facts. If you insist on spreading the myth that you have to hold back to go bigtime D1, please share the facts to back up your position.
Interesting conversation. I don’t think you need to be a holdback to commit to a top d1 program (top 20?). However the majority of top commits to these top programs are holdbacks, this years ND commits not withstanding. For the last several years, especially since 2020 most commits to these top programs are not on age especially the early September commits. Some are also PGs that are being stashed at prep schools to free up college roster sports. Thenproof (and I’m too lazy to crunch all the birthdays) has been show in IL recruitment database for the last 5 years.
I guess the confusion lies in the definition of “majority are holdbacks”. Is it 51%, 60% 75% 95%? If I had to say, it is somewhere between 65-70%. So you don’t NEED to holdback but it definitely is the norm, again only talking about top d1 and early commits.
And yes, prep schools are littered with not on age kids
Again, you're just repeating talking points you've heard from holdback dads justifying their decision or club directors looking for an extra year of tuition. The facts don't back up the argument. Below is a list of the 5-star 2025s. These are the best players all receiving countless calls on Sept 1. Only 47% (8 of 17) are holdbacks. You don't need to holdback to be elite . . . and no it is not the "norm".
Millon Feb-07
Merrill Jul-07
Maher Jul-06
Ortlieb Apr-06
Hopper Feb-07
Drago Sep-06
Lally Oct-05
Seibel Jul-06
Cooper Mar-06
McDonald May-07
Pedicano Nov-06
Hahn Sep-06
Iuliano Mar-07
Higgins Aug-06
Kelley Aug-06
Hocker Apr-07
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
The discussion was about holdbacks . . . not private vs public. I don't disagree that private kids make up the majority of the top tier D1 rosters. That doesn't mean they're hold backs. In most places in the US, public school lacrosse is lousy so good players gravitate to the privates whether they plan to hold back or not.
Yes, I chose ND because they are at the top of the heap right now. I presented facts. If you insist on spreading the myth that you have to hold back to go bigtime D1, please share the facts to back up your position.
Interesting conversation. I don’t think you need to be a holdback to commit to a top d1 program (top 20?). However the majority of top commits to these top programs are holdbacks, this years ND commits not withstanding. For the last several years, especially since 2020 most commits to these top programs are not on age especially the early September commits. Some are also PGs that are being stashed at prep schools to free up college roster sports. Thenproof (and I’m too lazy to crunch all the birthdays) has been show in IL recruitment database for the last 5 years.
I guess the confusion lies in the definition of “majority are holdbacks”. Is it 51%, 60% 75% 95%? If I had to say, it is somewhere between 65-70%. So you don’t NEED to holdback but it definitely is the norm, again only talking about top d1 and early commits.
And yes, prep schools are littered with not on age kids
Again, you're just repeating talking points you've heard from holdback dads justifying their decision or club directors looking for an extra year of tuition. The facts don't back up the argument. Below is a list of the 5-star 2025s. These are the best players all receiving countless calls on Sept 1. Only 47% (8 of 17) are holdbacks. You don't need to holdback to be elite . . . and no it is not the "norm".
Millon Feb-07
Merrill Jul-07
Maher Jul-06
Ortlieb Apr-06
Hopper Feb-07
Drago Sep-06
Lally Oct-05
Seibel Jul-06
Cooper Mar-06
McDonald May-07
Pedicano Nov-06
Hahn Sep-06
Iuliano Mar-07
Higgins Aug-06
Kelley Aug-06
Hocker Apr-07
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
A good amount of these will be asked to take an extra year before college so that percentage will go up. Happens every year
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Coaches will always recruit the best available, this means the biggest, fastest and strongest. Do you have a problem with the transfer portal too? What about red shirts and 5th year Seniors? Are they OK?
Unfortunately your argument about ND is void, almost all of them are older, youngest is March, most are over age and the ones that arent will PG. So yes, while they have talent they are not ready. There is nothing wrong with holding back, this conversation/argument needs to end. It’s a reality in this sport whether you like it or not and it’s only going to get worse. Club owners and directors see dollars not birthdates and until they are forced to apply dates to grad years it will continue. Yes there are dates for 14u and under, but after that it’s the Wild West. Need to adapt and or accept.
You're funny. Most are ON AGE as documented with the facts above . . . but don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
I'm not judging folks that choose to hold back. And I don't disagree with your comments about the financial motivations of club owners.
I'm just simply disproving the myth that holding back is the only route to big time D1. In reality the most talented kids will end up at the top schools whether they held back or not.
It’s not a myth, it’s factual, you chose 1 school. based on the ND roster, if you’re a public school kid you have a 12% chance of making the roster there. A whopping 6 out of 50 kids are public schoolers. Might want to reclassify or put Junior into a private school if ND is the dream.
The discussion was about holdbacks . . . not private vs public. I don't disagree that private kids make up the majority of the top tier D1 rosters. That doesn't mean they're hold backs. In most places in the US, public school lacrosse is lousy so good players gravitate to the privates whether they plan to hold back or not.
Yes, I chose ND because they are at the top of the heap right now. I presented facts. If you insist on spreading the myth that you have to hold back to go bigtime D1, please share the facts to back up your position.
Interesting conversation. I don’t think you need to be a holdback to commit to a top d1 program (top 20?). However the majority of top commits to these top programs are holdbacks, this years ND commits not withstanding. For the last several years, especially since 2020 most commits to these top programs are not on age especially the early September commits. Some are also PGs that are being stashed at prep schools to free up college roster sports. Thenproof (and I’m too lazy to crunch all the birthdays) has been show in IL recruitment database for the last 5 years.
I guess the confusion lies in the definition of “majority are holdbacks”. Is it 51%, 60% 75% 95%? If I had to say, it is somewhere between 65-70%. So you don’t NEED to holdback but it definitely is the norm, again only talking about top d1 and early commits.
And yes, prep schools are littered with not on age kids
Again, you're just repeating talking points you've heard from holdback dads justifying their decision or club directors looking for an extra year of tuition. The facts don't back up the argument. Below is a list of the 5-star 2025s. These are the best players all receiving countless calls on Sept 1. Only 47% (8 of 17) are holdbacks. You don't need to holdback to be elite . . . and no it is not the "norm".
Millon Feb-07
Merrill Jul-07
Maher Jul-06
Ortlieb Apr-06
Hopper Feb-07
Drago Sep-06
Lally Oct-05
Seibel Jul-06
Cooper Mar-06
McDonald May-07
Pedicano Nov-06
Hahn Sep-06
Iuliano Mar-07
Higgins Aug-06
Kelley Aug-06
Hocker Apr-07
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
A good amount of these will be asked to take an extra year before college so that percentage will go up. Happens every year
True some may take a PG year . . . but that doesn't change the fact that they are 5-star recruits, committed to the best schools in the country, WITHOUT holding back pre-k or before 9th grade. These colleges have evaluated them as on-age athletes and determined they were good enough to go to ND, UVA, Duke, MD, etc. If someone is telling you that you need to hold back to be recruited by those schools they are wrong.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Coaches always want the stronger more mature player which is the fundamental problem because it’s become a drug to them. Time to level the field rather than have such a huge disparity in ages which inevitably leads to recruiting disparities and the haves and have nots with basically only 6 teams capable of winning it all in a given year. Redshirt injury year is Ok but anything beyond that is essentially a gateway drug to 6th, 7th+ years. A few years ago we celebrated the Rutgers player who played a jillion years and this year we cried when the the Virginia player was denied a 7th year. Oh no!!! The tragedy! Time to get off daddy’s dime and go live the rest of your life and become a productive member of that workforce. Some people need to holdback for a real reason but the majority? Simply To gain an advantage (and it is an advantage) because you couldn’t compete on age? The sport would be perfectly fine if everyone is on age and no one would miss a beat. Now it’s limited to a few colleges, clubs and prep schools.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
Just because you found a way to do it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. It’s cheating.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
Just because you found a way to do it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. It’s cheating.
Agreed
Anyone notice what a cupcake schedule CM gave Madlax aka “Supreme Nationals” at Club Nationals. Put all the strong teams in the South and West pools, and ML in the East with Mad Dog Gold (B team), Bostons Phinest and True Carolina. Meanwhile, South pool has Mad Dog Black (A team who put ML out last year), Red Hots National and Team 91 National and West pool has West Coast Starz A team and 3D National. Winner of South plays winner of West in semis. Madlax won’t play a competitive team until the championship (which they will likely lose big). This is significantly worse than 91 scheduling at NLF…borderline criminal. Is CM so desperate to have a good W-L that he dodges good competition? Kids may get a free pass into the championship but are they getting better like these other teams that are grinding it out against high-level competition? Considering the backslide last summer and this fall for ML, I would argue no.
Anyone notice what a cupcake schedule CM gave Madlax aka “Supreme Nationals” at Club Nationals. Put all the strong teams in the South and West pools, and ML in the East with Mad Dog Gold (B team), Bostons Phinest and True Carolina. Meanwhile, South pool has Mad Dog Black (A team who put ML out last year), Red Hots National and Team 91 National and West pool has West Coast Starz A team and 3D National. Winner of South plays winner of West in semis. Madlax won’t play a competitive team until the championship (which they will likely lose big). This is significantly worse than 91 scheduling at NLF…borderline criminal. Is CM so desperate to have a good W-L that he dodges good competition? Kids may get a free pass into the championship but are they getting better like these other teams that are grinding it out against high-level competition? Considering the backslide last summer and this fall for ML, I would argue no.
Any non- national teams at this?
Anyone notice what a cupcake schedule CM gave Madlax aka “Supreme Nationals” at Club Nationals. Put all the strong teams in the South and West pools, and ML in the East with Mad Dog Gold (B team), Bostons Phinest and True Carolina. Meanwhile, South pool has Mad Dog Black (A team who put ML out last year), Red Hots National and Team 91 National and West pool has West Coast Starz A team and 3D National. Winner of South plays winner of West in semis. Madlax won’t play a competitive team until the championship (which they will likely lose big). This is significantly worse than 91 scheduling at NLF…borderline criminal. Is CM so desperate to have a good W-L that he dodges good competition? Kids may get a free pass into the championship but are they getting better like these other teams that are grinding it out against high-level competition? Considering the backslide last summer and this fall for ML, I would argue no.
Any non- national teams at this?
Nah, this is one of those feel good events for the 15 year olds masquerading as 7th graders
Is it safe to assume that FCA has already dropped out of the Circuit at all age groups? What is the story with this?
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
Just because you found a way to do it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. It’s cheating.
It's so ridiculous, can't comment without it being about someone, never wrote that I did it, I wrote that it is factually not cheating. if you are this sensitive it's time to find a new sport because this one is going to chew you and your kid up really fast.
Anyone notice what a cupcake schedule CM gave Madlax aka “Supreme Nationals” at Club Nationals. Put all the strong teams in the South and West pools, and ML in the East with Mad Dog Gold (B team), Bostons Phinest and True Carolina. Meanwhile, South pool has Mad Dog Black (A team who put ML out last year), Red Hots National and Team 91 National and West pool has West Coast Starz A team and 3D National. Winner of South plays winner of West in semis. Madlax won’t play a competitive team until the championship (which they will likely lose big). This is significantly worse than 91 scheduling at NLF…borderline criminal. Is CM so desperate to have a good W-L that he dodges good competition? Kids may get a free pass into the championship but are they getting better like these other teams that are grinding it out against high-level competition? Considering the backslide last summer and this fall for ML, I would argue no.
Any non- national teams at this?
Nah, this is one of those feel good events for the 15 year olds masquerading as 7th graders
Looks like the regular 2way team is there but everything else is money grabbing “national” nonsense. Can’t believe I’m writing this but hope 2way does well.
Bostons Phinest is rebranded JM3 you ding dong and is probably one of the strongest teams there. Full of 3d New England and other top circuit kids.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
Just because you found a way to do it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. It’s cheating.
It's so ridiculous, can't comment without it being about someone, never wrote that I did it, I wrote that it is factually not cheating. if you are this sensitive it's time to find a new sport because this one is going to chew you and your kid up really fast.
Yeh that’s not happening. So you think having your kid repeat a GRADE just so he can compete with kids a year younger than him isn’t cheating? Then you teach your kid these great life lessons but don’t be surprised when they grow up with no moral compass.
Bostons Phinest is rebranded JM3 you ding dong and is probably one of the strongest teams there. Full of 3d New England and other top circuit kids.
Then what is 3d National?
Club Nationals is adhering to age verification - so unless there is falsifying of birth certs, all 2029’s will be post 6/1/2010 birthdays. I know of one kid who was born 5/28/2010 - 3 days before the cutoff- that was told he couldn’t play. So no 14 and 15 year olds.
Except that 3d New England will be part of 3d National. Ding dong. Boston’s finest will be average at best.
Roster for Boston is made up of mostly 3d NE.
All of the brackets are pretty even and fair.
We’ll see. Look at the ML/Supreme pools for each age and try to tell me that they aren’t blatantly trying to give themselves an easy road to and through the bracket. Sometimes CM screws up and underestimates a team in his pool, but clearly the goal is to make it an easy as possible to go as deep as possible.
Roster for Boston is made up of mostly 3d NE.
All of the brackets are pretty even and fair.
How many fly ins?
Actually most of the 3D kids play for Nations Best.
As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back.
6 of 11 Notre Dame recruits in the class of 2025 are NOT holdbacks. Their birthdates are on Inside Lacrosse. 6 of the 11 could have played in the World Series with the class of 2025 meaning they were born after 9/1/2006. Of the 5 that wouldn't have qualified for the WS, 2 were born in August '06 so they barely missed the cutoff.
Moral of the story . . . no, you do not have to hold back to be recruited to a top program or be a dominant D1 player. This is a falsehood holdback parents tell themselves and their kids to justify their decision.
#realstudsdontreclass
Here's the list . . .
2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06
Some of these may take a PG year essentially being stashed for a year making them a holdback. Quite common so I will be curious which of these will actually be in the roster of fall 2025[/quote]
Not true for ND and others. The 25's that have been recruited and will be PGing or reclassing are not allowed to announce their commitment until 9/1/24. Players listed as committed on IL will be on campus 9/25.
Tough to look yourself in the mirror and be proud of any accomplishments you have made when you cheat by holding back, unless of course you are a narcissist.
Kids not a holdback, but enough it’s not cheating, maybe not ethical but not cheating.
Just because you found a way to do it doesn’t mean it’s not cheating. It’s cheating.
It's so ridiculous, can't comment without it being about someone, never wrote that I did it, I wrote that it is factually not cheating. if you are this sensitive it's time to find a new sport because this one is going to chew you and your kid up really fast.
Yeh that’s not happening. So you think having your kid repeat a GRADE just so he can compete with kids a year younger than him isn’t cheating? Then you teach your kid these great life lessons but don’t be surprised when they grow up with no moral compass.
Its called Winning! You and your moral compass aren't going to be looking out for my kid. Dog eat dog. Be a savage. Dont complain. The world aint fair mom.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Cheating by reclassing= Priceless
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Not really. He wasn’t going to get in to the school with out lacrosse and they werent going to give financial aid. Also, the lost COVID year and being able to give that back wasn’t an option by transferring……also the team didnt need him in the class so again nope, couldn’t get the education by just transferring. I do love that it pisses you off though. Add that to the value propisition. darn, the more I type it out the more it was a low cost high value decision.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Good that it worked out for your kid at whatever ACc school he is at now and hopefully he is not riding that ACc bench instead of playing meaningful patriot minutes. You do realize that it doesn’t work out for most reclasses though. You are also missing the fact that he is not competing on age and has to reclass to succeed. Much easier to transfer and also not defer that extra year of income. Net net? Still not sure I see it but you do you.
Watching Boston play now. Thought this was an age verified tourney. Yellow helmet (QM) is not of age.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Not really. He wasn’t going to get in to the school with out lacrosse and they werent going to give financial aid. Also, the lost COVID year and being able to give that back wasn’t an option by transferring……also the team didnt need him in the class so again nope, couldn’t get the education by just transferring. I do love that it pisses you off though. Add that to the value propisition. darn, the more I type it out the more it was a low cost high value decision.
What a weasel.
Watching Boston play now. Thought this was an age verified tourney. Yellow helmet (QM) is not of age.
Some big dudes on WCS. Granted they draw from the western half of the country but holy crud.
Roster for Boston is made up of mostly 3d NE.
All of the brackets are pretty even and fair.
How many fly ins?
Pretty long drive so most probably flew.
91 went 2-8 down in Florida, sheesh.
Were Boston Phinest and 2way the only WS teams? How did they look?
Watching Boston play now. Thought this was an age verified tourney. Yellow helmet (QM) is not of age.
Some big dudes on WCS. Granted they draw from the western half of the country but holy crud.
They are older.
Boston Phinest can’t be a World Series team - at least not as they were constructed at Club Nationals. They have some kids that I know are pre- 9/1 birthdays. If the same kids show up to WS….there’s a problem
Watching Boston play now. Thought this was an age verified tourney. Yellow helmet (QM) is not of age.
He’s a late June birthday so is of age. Love the internet police though.
Will any of the teams at this tournament play in the summer? I guess WCS does but any others?
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Not really. He wasn’t going to get in to the school with out lacrosse and they werent going to give financial aid. Also, the lost COVID year and being able to give that back wasn’t an option by transferring……also the team didnt need him in the class so again nope, couldn’t get the education by just transferring. I do love that it pisses you off though. Add that to the value propisition. darn, the more I type it out the more it was a low cost high value decision.
What a weasel.
How and why is he a weasel but I have a new question.
Can someone explain to me how football and basketball players reclass to the grade ahead of them? Have seen a few NCAA basketball and football programs announce kids reclassing from 25 to 24 and its making my head explode.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Not really. He wasn’t going to get in to the school with out lacrosse and they werent going to give financial aid. Also, the lost COVID year and being able to give that back wasn’t an option by transferring……also the team didnt need him in the class so again nope, couldn’t get the education by just transferring. I do love that it pisses you off though. Add that to the value propisition. darn, the more I type it out the more it was a low cost high value decision.
What a weasel.
How and why is he a weasel but I have a new question.
Can someone explain to me how football and basketball players reclass to the grade ahead of them? Have seen a few NCAA basketball and football programs announce kids reclassing from 25 to 24 and its making my head explode.
Sounds like that probably happens often to you.
91 went 2-8 down in Florida, sheesh.
Maybe they should combine the teams.
Bostons Finest grabbed 4-5 nationals kids from the Circuit.
How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.
This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”
Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is
Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.
Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.
Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?
The value vs cost conversation was key for our decision to reclass. Nothing to with knucklehead above but here is the reality of how we looked at it:
Value
- Lost a year of education due to Covid, reclassing gives this back
- Move to a better (Prep) school and get a better education with better network
- Better school provides better pipeline into colleges
- Higher academic standards will push him to be his best.
- Education, education, education.
- Play against better competition.
- Go from a 50-100 IL recruit to a top 25 (Patriot League to ACC)
- I love boasting how great my kid is.
Cost
- do I want to pay for an extra year of school + the additional uptick in cost for Prep School
- School gave FA though dont really quality so that offset the additional cost
- 50% scholarship to a top academic University made up for the extra year and then some
Net net, we looked at the overall value and cost of reclassing while balancing the risk. It was a low-risk high reward for us based on the different value propositions.
Education could have been had by transferring without releasing. Cheater. Cheater. Cheater.
Not really. He wasn’t going to get in to the school with out lacrosse and they werent going to give financial aid. Also, the lost COVID year and being able to give that back wasn’t an option by transferring……also the team didnt need him in the class so again nope, couldn’t get the education by just transferring. I do love that it pisses you off though. Add that to the value propisition. darn, the more I type it out the more it was a low cost high value decision.
What a weasel.
How and why is he a weasel but I have a new question.
Can someone explain to me how football and basketball players reclass to the grade ahead of them? Have seen a few NCAA basketball and football programs announce kids reclassing from 25 to 24 and its making my head explode.
I think lacrosse (maybe baseball?) it is the norm to reclass back but not so much for soccer football or basketball because truly transcendent players can and should play up. There is a $$ component as well as their earnings and NIL money start early.
No future pro $$ in lax. NIL money is nonexistent compared to other sports. So it’s better to reclass back so as better to compete with younger kids because you aren’t losing future dollars.
"Can someone explain to me how football and basketball players reclass to the grade ahead of them? Have seen a few NCAA basketball and football programs announce kids reclassing from 25 to 24 and its making my head explode"
They just graduate HS earlier in the winter usually so they can get on campus in the spring to participate in the spring workouts (football usually). Basketball is if they have pretty much all the requirements and instead of stretching it for a year and playing a season of HS they can graduate early also like lacrosse they could have reclassed and are going back top their original class
There is not a single player on WCS that is overage. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.
There is not a single player on WCS that is overage. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Would love to hear what date you use to define overage.
There is not a single player on WCS that is overage. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Would love to hear what date you use to define overage.
For 2029 “old” means being born before June 1, 2010 which is what NLF and most tournaments instituted.
There is not a single player on WCS that is overage. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Would love to hear what date you use to define overage.
For 2029 “old” means being born before June 1, 2010 which is what NLF and most tournaments instituted.
Agreed, they are older.
Fact. There is at least one if not more middie born prior to June 1 , 10. In 2 years, id anticipate several additional reclasses on that squad
Interesting. Where can we see kids’ bdays?
So red hots can make a team month before qualifier?
Real team right lol
So red hots can make a team month before qualifier?
Real team right lol
I hope so. Show what a farce it all really is. Enough of the world series nonsense. Means nothing. Win the NAL, NLF, Naptown or that new 3D tournament and then talk.
Fact. There is at least one if not more middie born prior to June 1 , 10. In 2 years, id anticipate several additional reclasses on that squad
No bone to pick but I would add most top squads will have reclasses in the coming years. I follow Sweetlax a little at the older levels and know more reclasses than not.
There isn't. Anyone born before June 1, 2010 was moved up to the 2028s.
June 1 is a low bar to set for age verification.
June 1 is a low bar to set for age verification.
Agreed, total smoke screen.
Enjoy age verification now with our 29s. Some parent telling me that three 2027 (9th graders) Sweetlax players from their Club Nationals final team drove to and from the tournament. Find that hard to believe but Sweetlax is known to reclass entire teams.
Enjoy age verification now with our 29s. Some parent telling me that three 2027 (9th graders) Sweetlax players from their Club Nationals final team drove to and from the tournament. Find that hard to believe but Sweetlax is known to reclass entire teams.
Nothing like the old “Heard it from a friend” rumors to get the blood boiling about reclasses. Yawn.
Long Island teams that will qualify for the World Series?
Rebels, Igloo, 91, Moose and Express
Rebels definitely not Would say Moose has a slim outside chance The rest will draw better matchups and will qualify.
I thought 91 and express were not doing it.
Think it’s safe to say change of venue was manipulated by a couple clubs
What’s going to happen to that TriStar tournament the same weekend?
Their tantrum prompted the move to the east coast from MN.
I thought 91 and express were not doing it.
They were not doing it because the finals were in Minneapolis.
The finals have been moved to the east coast. They are now both in.
Long Island teams that will qualify for the World Series?
Going to go out on a limb and say the teams who play best at the qualifier will qualify.
Last year 9-10 teams from North region made it. Is that true this year too?
Last year 9-10 teams from North region made it. Is that true this year too?
It depends on how many teams are at the qualifier. Roughly half the teams at each qualifier will make it.
Only 3 Long Island teams made it last year.
Really 2 Legacy was a non factor
Really 2 Legacy was a non factor
That was harsh.
Really 2 Legacy was a non factor
That was harsh.
Was it though?
Yes, considering they are kids and the fact that it was totally unnecessary.
Yes, considering they are kids and the fact that it was totally unnecessary.
I meant it wasn’t really harsh. It was actually kind of ignorant. 6 teams from Long Island tried out and didn’t make it. Another 6 plus teams didn’t bother trying out because they knew they weren’t going to make it. I’m pretty sure the majority of the players at last years World Series, regardless of their records or team they were on, had a great time and won’t forget the experience any time soon.
Who cares about last year? This year LI will do well and qualify more teams. Outside of Eclipse, not much to be concerned about.
I know several on here do not care about the event. That’s fine, but for those that do, keep this in mind. World Series rosters for several teams will not be the exact teams you are accustomed to seeing. A few teams are put together for just this event and a few teams will be missing key players that are ineligible.
Anyone know the list of teams going to the qualifiers?
They have a website and will release pre tournament rankings a week in advance
I know several on here do not care about the event. That’s fine, but for those that do, keep this in mind. World Series rosters for several teams will not be the exact teams you are accustomed to seeing. A few teams are put together for just this event and a few teams will be missing key players that are ineligible.
Key players missing. Here come the excuses 2 months out. Anyone ineligible is either a holdback or lives further than 100 miles from team hq.
I know several on here do not care about the event. That’s fine, but for those that do, keep this in mind. World Series rosters for several teams will not be the exact teams you are accustomed to seeing. A few teams are put together for just this event and a few teams will be missing key players that are ineligible.
Key players missing. Here come the excuses 2 months out. Anyone ineligible is either a holdback or lives further than 100 miles from team hq.
Reading comprehension problem? You literally reiterated my point. Some clubs have holdbacks. Some clubs have reclassed players. Some clubs have players living outside of the 100 mile radius. Thus, my statement about rosters not necessarily being what you’re used to. Red hots for example are clearly not going to be the same core 29 red hots team that has played together in the past. You understand now, or do you want me to dummy my statement down even more?
Reading comprehension problem? You literally reiterated my point. Some clubs have holdbacks. Some clubs have reclassed players. Some clubs have players living outside of the 100 mile radius. Thus, my statement about rosters not necessarily being what you’re used to. Red hots for example are clearly not going to be the same core 29 red hots team that has played together in the past. You understand now, or do you want me to dummy my statement down even more?
Why so condescending? Who cares? Noone asked for your unsolicited assessment. You must be a real treat on the sidelines, are you the one everyone talks about? Do you even have a 2029?
91 wins World Series this year. No one can stop them! Superior talent at every position.
Don’t be so hasty! The slip knots are comming!
91 wins World Series this year. No one can stop them! Superior talent at every position.
I heard a 91 goalie is playing with Rebels in the World Series and Rebels look really strong for World Series.
They aren’t superior at every position but with the Venom and Surge players coming down they have a very good chance at winning.
TriStar is weekend before
TriStar is weekend before
That new Stars and Stripes tournament clearly meant to be a WS alternative is the same weekend.
TriStar is weekend before
That new Stars and Stripes tournament clearly meant to be a WS alternative is the same weekend.
Think that one was a ploy to help force a location change for the world series.
They aren’t superior at every position but with the Venom and Surge players coming down they have a very good chance at winning.
Does 91 pick up the expense of a second World Series trip for the parents of those players?
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
91 lower their goalie to Rebels? Wow 91 is falling apart! Whole program is not what it used to be!
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Does 91 pick up the expense of a second World Series trip for the parents of those players?
Does 91 pack up and leave the tourney if they lose a game?
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Nope, can confirm it’s true. Landscape is changing.
Does anyone do the Adidas or Nike All-Star games?
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Nope, can confirm it’s true. Landscape is changing.
Please clarify. The 29 goalie? Or 28 goalie?
Does 91 pick up the expense of a second World Series trip for the parents of those players?
Does 91 pack up and leave the tourney if they lose a game?
Lol
Wait on that stuff. Still too early. I have older kid in program as well. Plenty of time and plenty of events to choose from.
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Nope, can confirm it’s true. Landscape is changing.
Rebels are legit!
91 qualifies Rebels don’t
Igloo wins it all this year, 91 should stay home. They have no chance! This is the first time Igloo has been able to keep a good team together. They are always good young then everyone leaves for 91/Express. Not in 29 group though! Igloo is unstoppable, etch their name in the trophy now as they can’t be beaten!
Ha! Love these trolls. Igloo stinks, they’ll be lucky to qualify even with the easy draw. WS is not what it seems, teams like EN, 2way and Laxchu will have recruited new faces and new helmets. EN will have 8 different helmets on the field. Igloo won’t know what hit them
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Nope, can confirm it’s true. Landscape is changing.
Please clarify. The 29 goalie? Or 28 goalie?
Yes please clarify
What teams from Long Island are going to be at the north qualifier?
What teams from Long Island are going to be at the north qualifier?
All of them?
91 is going, the rest is irrelevant
91 is going, the rest is irrelevant
That may have been true in years past, but not for this grade. Not yet anyway.
Yes best 91 Goalie is now a Rebel.
I think you heard wrong
Nope, can confirm it’s true. Landscape is changing.
Please clarify. The 29 goalie? Or 28 goalie?
Yes please clarify
Maybe he will confirm that he got a little too excited over rumors, wanting it so badly to be true that he ran here to be the first with news. Unfortunately the news was fake.
91 is going, the rest is irrelevant
It will be exciting to see the 3rd best team on Long Island play.
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
91 is going, the rest is irrelevant
It will be exciting to see the 3rd best team on Long Island play.
3rd? keep going
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
One is actually a 2029. He has played with them a number of times before.
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
They going to bench the coaches kids to play the Venom kids?
Venom did the same thing last year, it didn’t help!
Venom did the same thing last year, it didn’t help!
2 players this year. Still need 8 others on the field besides those 2.
Considering your kid was on one of the teams.. Why not let everyone know how great it went?
Considering your kid was on one of the teams.. Why not let everyone know how great it went?
It was a great place to scrimmage. Pretty hard not to get better in that place.
Venom did the same thing last year, it didn’t help!
2 players this year. Still need 8 others on the field besides those 2.
They’ll have the 8 coaches kids!
2029 class is loaded, just spread out. Igloo 91 moose express all very good. After that who knows
Excelsior games worth it?
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
Excelsior games worth it?
if your kid wants to play another game sure why not spend the money other than that its just a hyped game at this age playing with a new group of kids.
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
Good analysis but don’t underestimate moose.
They could feasibly all make it. The question is how good the non-LI teams are. Figure Eclipse, Sweetlax, some contrived Mass team will be locks. Leaves a few other competitive teams like EN, Preds, PT, 2W, Orange Crush. Probably missing some too.
Teams change drastically from fall to spring to qualifiers to WS. You will see 2-3 new players on 2W, EN, PT, BBL, LE, Dukes, SL, 91, Express come July.
Boston’s Pfinest I believe is a WS team (minus a few summer birthdays who have played this fall). They have cleaned up this fall/winter. Might be a strong CA or CO team as well. 100 mile radius allows the population dense east coast teams to load up compared to the teams in the Midwest.
Teams change drastically from fall to spring to qualifiers to WS. You will see 2-3 new players on 2W, EN, PT, BBL, LE, Dukes, SL, 91, Express come July.
Teams will not change drastically from the qualifiers to the WS. Has to be the same roster for both events.
Boston’s Pfinest I believe is a WS team (minus a few summer birthdays who have played this fall). They have cleaned up this fall/winter. Might be a strong CA or CO team as well. 100 mile radius allows the population dense east coast teams to load up compared to the teams in the Midwest.
I would assume the kings will represent Colorado with a good team. Same could be said for southern California.. But that’s about it west of the Mississippi. They can not compete on age yet.
I’ll preface this with admitting I’m making an assumption here. But I can pretty much guarantee that the Bostons Phinest team that has cleaned up this fall will not be at the qualifiers. The name may be, but the roster will not be the same. Look who they competed against and where they played and it has national/holdback/reclass team written all over it. And I do not mention that to start a discussion about holdbacks. If they were to bring that team, which they won’t, they would destroy every team from Long Island.
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
They going to bench the coaches kids to play the Venom kids?
What positions are the venom kids?
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
91?? Based on what??
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
91?? Based on what??
Probably based on the fact that they will have venom kids playing.
I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
91?? Based on what??
Probably based on the fact that they will have venom kids playing.
The kid who plays up on Venom is definitely the best 29 on LI. But he can’t play alone.
The best prepared and best coached team is going to win. Getting all the kids to focus and buy in to the team first and not a me first concept. Giving up the bad shot for the one more pass.
There are going to be some surprises.
[quote=Anonymous]I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
91?? Based on what??
Not sure what the question is here seems like a fair assessment all we hear on this board is how great they are yet ,lost to igloo and moose and it could be argued the rest of the fall schedule was average at best. But not denying the fact the addition of the the kids from the 28 team playing w/ the 29’s could be a net positive even tho they won’t have their best attack not sure where the confusion is.
Igloo in for a wake up call. 91 venom player can do it himself.
Igloo in for a wake up call. 91 venom player can do it himself.
That’s what they thought at the nlf championships last year. What happened then? Need a team, not just 1 kid.
Igloo in for a wake up call. 91 venom player can do it himself.
That’s what they thought at the nlf championships last year. What happened then? Need a team, not just 1 kid.
I hope the kid does well but if they don’t win they will have plenty of egg on their face for stamping their feet about the original location getting it moved and then not winning it all.
Igloo in for a wake up call. 91 venom player can do it himself.
That’s what they thought at the nlf championships last year. What happened then? Need a team, not just 1 kid.
Not really fair to say that any 12-13 year old can do it himself. However, there are a lot of parents and players who are in for wake up calls when they face rosters that have kids that typically play at the 28 level. Completely different level of play. Just like the 29 and 30 years are completely different. Just picture your kid, or a good 29 player on your son’s team, playing down against a 30 team. I bet you can see them scoring multiple goals. Will they win games all alone? Obviously not. Will the teams containing these players be a bit of a surprise? Absolutely.
You can expect 2way, EN, 91, rebels, PT, and probably more to be a bit different than you are used to.
My money is on 3D New England for the W.S.
My money is on 3D New England for the W.S.
You know what they say about a fool and his money…
My money is on 3D New England for the W.S.
You know what they say about a fool and his money…
yeah thats right everyone stay home ... save your money of course 91 is gonna win so why should we all bother
A team from NY will win. Igloo is favorite. 91 and Rebels are dark horses.
You better check 2Way’s roster!
You better check 2Way’s roster!
How many different Team HQ addresses they got for this year?
[quote=Anonymous]I just dont see anyone coming remotely close to 91. They have brought down 2 game changers and the rest of LI cant compete. Igloo/Rebels/Express dont have the talent. 2029 is a very weak class to begin with, this will just magnify it.
There you have it. Why bother showing up?
91 didn't have great fall.. I know who cares it s fall i'm sure the two adds will help but didn't they loose their best attack b/c of the 100 mile rule? so new adds prob a net positive but not sure many will agree they are now the best have to prove that first.
Rebels are still trying to add kids to get better not a bad team time will tell
Express I surely hope they improved from the fall or they are a bubble team at best
Igloo had a solid fall especially vs all other LI teams its fair to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise.
Moose unfortuanltey just lacks the depth but def have some good pieces.
On any day any one of these teams could win/loose vs each other . It all will come down to who is playing the best at that time not sure much separates the top teams... but the drop-off after these teams is pretty dramatic.
91?? Based on what??
Not sure what the question is here seems like a fair assessment all we hear on this board is how great they are yet ,lost to igloo and moose and it could be argued the rest of the fall schedule was average at best. But not denying the fact the addition of the the kids from the 28 team playing w/ the 29’s could be a net positive even tho they won’t have their best attack not sure where the confusion is.
Because they aren’t good. We all saw it this fall. They added 28’s but so did everyone else.
Heard from a director that 12 teams from North qualifier make the WS so no excuses. Also means other regions are super light on entrants.
Heard from a director that 12 teams from North qualifier make the WS so no excuses. Also means other regions are super light on entrants.
South region only has 4 teams.
Why even have this qualifier then? Just have the main even in July and have everyone go. Pool play Day 1 to determine seeding and a large bracket play days 2 and 3.
Heard from a director that 12 teams from North qualifier make the WS so no excuses. Also means other regions are super light on entrants.
South region only has 4 teams.
Why even have this qualifier then? Just have the main even in July and have everyone go. Pool play Day 1 to determine seeding and a large bracket play days 2 and 3.
Why call it the World Series? Clown and circus tournament
Heard from a director that 12 teams from North qualifier make the WS so no excuses. Also means other regions are super light on entrants.
South region only has 4 teams.
Why even have this qualifier then? Just have the main even in July and have everyone go. Pool play Day 1 to determine seeding and a large bracket play days 2 and 3.
Why call it the World Series? Clown and circus tournament
The real World Series of Youth Lacrosse folded up the tent two years ago. This is just a cheap imitation.
Heard from a director that 12 teams from North qualifier make the WS so no excuses. Also means other regions are super light on entrants.
South region only has 4 teams.
Why even have this qualifier then? Just have the main even in July and have everyone go. Pool play Day 1 to determine seeding and a large bracket play days 2 and 3.
Why call it the World Series? Clown and circus tournament
The real World Series of Youth Lacrosse folded up the tent two years ago. This is just a cheap imitation.
Maryland guy on the board!!
LWSC vs. WSYL
Webcast vs. Live ESPN broadcast;
Random field in Downington, PA vs. Denver Broncos stadium in Mile High, CO;
Overpriced 'souvenir shirts' for sale vs. Free gear from New Balance, Coca-Cola, Muscle Milk & more.
Yeah, same experience. Higher cost is totally worth it.
LWSC vs. WSYL
Webcast vs. Live ESPN broadcast;
Random field in Downington, PA vs. Denver Broncos stadium in Mile High, CO;
Overpriced 'souvenir shirts' for sale vs. Free gear from New Balance, Coca-Cola, Muscle Milk & more.
Yeah, same experience. Higher cost is totally worth it.
Plenty of free stuff last two years.
And I’ll take a 2 hour ride in my car over flying to Denver.
No one cares except for like 3 has been dads
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
LWSC vs. WSYL
Webcast vs. Live ESPN broadcast;
Random field in Downington, PA vs. Denver Broncos stadium in Mile High, CO;
Overpriced 'souvenir shirts' for sale vs. Free gear from New Balance, Coca-Cola, Muscle Milk & more.
Yeah, same experience. Higher cost is totally worth it.
As a dad who had 2 kids attend both events, WSYL was a much better event. Not to say LWSC can’t eventually get to that level but right now it’s not even close to the original.
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
[quote=Anonymous]I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.[/quote
looks like only postion at this point that can be changed on the roster for WS so they will keep looking as long as they make it.. did the same w/ defenders until the deadline but was false advertising as they took kids but said they could play reg tournaments not with WS team.. buyer beware!
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
Isn’t participation in other regions always at a minimum? Both the old and new event had a very disproportionate amount of teams from New Jersey to Massachusetts, no?
And on a side note, guessing who will qualify is kind of pointless prior to knowing who is actually trying and what the rosters look like.
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
Isn’t participation in other regions always at a minimum? Both the old and new event had a very disproportionate amount of teams from New Jersey to Massachusetts, no?
And on a side note, guessing who will qualify is kind of pointless prior to knowing who is actually trying and what the rosters look like.
The other event had much better participation from other regions before they stopped doing it. I think the Denver location was enticing for teams from west and Midwest regions. It wasn’t the same as Long Island but it was decent. With WSYL they would only take 7 teams from LI. Not they take 11-12. I think what was great about the WSYL was it was independent of any club. We all know it’s now run my US club lax……which is a 91 entity.
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
Isn’t participation in other regions always at a minimum? Both the old and new event had a very disproportionate amount of teams from New Jersey to Massachusetts, no?
And on a side note, guessing who will qualify is kind of pointless prior to knowing who is actually trying and what the rosters look like.
The other event had much better participation from other regions before they stopped doing it. I think the Denver location was enticing for teams from west and Midwest regions. It wasn’t the same as Long Island but it was decent. With WSYL they would only take 7 teams from LI. Not they take 11-12. I think what was great about the WSYL was it was independent of any club. We all know it’s now run my US club lax……which is a 91 entity.
If it was owned by 91 it never would have been announced to be in Minnesota.
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
Isn’t participation in other regions always at a minimum? Both the old and new event had a very disproportionate amount of teams from New Jersey to Massachusetts, no?
And on a side note, guessing who will qualify is kind of pointless prior to knowing who is actually trying and what the rosters look like.
The other event had much better participation from other regions before they stopped doing it. I think the Denver location was enticing for teams from west and Midwest regions. It wasn’t the same as Long Island but it was decent. With WSYL they would only take 7 teams from LI. Not they take 11-12. I think what was great about the WSYL was it was independent of any club. We all know it’s now run my US club lax……which is a 91 entity.
If it was owned by 91 it never would have been announced to be in Minnesota.
PRECISELY!
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
Isn’t participation in other regions always at a minimum? Both the old and new event had a very disproportionate amount of teams from New Jersey to Massachusetts, no?
And on a side note, guessing who will qualify is kind of pointless prior to knowing who is actually trying and what the rosters look like.
The other event had much better participation from other regions before they stopped doing it. I think the Denver location was enticing for teams from west and Midwest regions. It wasn’t the same as Long Island but it was decent. With WSYL they would only take 7 teams from LI. Not they take 11-12. I think what was great about the WSYL was it was independent of any club. We all know it’s now run my US club lax……which is a 91 entity.
They do not take 12 from Long Island. 3-4 more like it
It’s run by True. That’s why it tried to go more central in addition to attempting to be a growth vehicle for the sport. Now it’s just another tournament. If it’s going to be just another tourney, might as well be closer than Delaware and Maryland.
Baltimore is a great centrally located area for tournaments like these. Should be here every year.
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
This is the most accurate post on here regarding Rebels. Hopefully all the Rebels Moms will realize this when they are posting all over Facebook.
Anyone seen the west bracket schedule for the WS? I thought they play this weekend
Anyone seen the west bracket schedule for the WS? I thought they play this weekend
Don’t need one when the Colorado Kings are only team registered
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
This is the most accurate post on here regarding Rebels. Hopefully all the Rebels Moms will realize this when they are posting all over Facebook.
so if they beat the long island teams are you trying to say its not legit? sounds like someone is nervous about what's to come
i heard their goalies are good
I heard Rebels are still searching around for goalies. Already have 3 and still asking around.
Guess the 91 goalie rumor never panned out for them.
Rebels will still qualify. Not because they are good, but because participation in other regions is at a minimum.
is the 91 venom goalie playing for 91 29 team?
Yes. Old news already. They have him and 2 others age eligible playing down for the WS. 1 of them has played in a few tournaments with them in the past few years. I’m sure there will be multiple teams that will have age eligible 28’s playing down so to guess who has an advantage at the moment is a wild guess either way.
Yes. Old news already. They have him and 2 others age eligible playing down for the WS. 1 of them has played in a few tournaments with them in the past few years. I’m sure there will be multiple teams that will have age eligible 28’s playing down so to guess who has an advantage at the moment is a wild guess either way.
The one is not playing down. He spends most his time playing up on the 28’s.
Anyone seen the west bracket schedule for the WS? I thought they play this weekend
What an amazing event.
First qualifier had four teams. Second has no teams.
A joke and a money grab. Teams should avoid going and having families spend or have to fundraise thousands upon thousands for another tournament that lines the pockets of the organizers. There are plenty of legit tournaments to enter without having to “qualify” for this sham tournament.
A joke and a money grab. Teams should avoid going and having families spend or have to fundraise thousands upon thousands for another tournament that lines the pockets of the organizers. There are plenty of legit tournaments to enter without having to “qualify” for this sham tournament.
Thousands upon thousands?? What are you spending that
of money on??
Yes. Old news already. They have him and 2 others age eligible playing down for the WS. 1 of them has played in a few tournaments with them in the past few years. I’m sure there will be multiple teams that will have age eligible 28’s playing down so to guess who has an advantage at the moment is a wild guess either way.
Surprised venom goalie wants to play on a weak 91team
To each there own
A joke and a money grab. Teams should avoid going and having families spend or have to fundraise thousands upon thousands for another tournament that lines the pockets of the organizers. There are plenty of legit tournaments to enter without having to “qualify” for this sham tournament.
It’s 2 tourneys - 1 in March, 1 in July. No need to make anything more or less out of this than what it is. If your son is on the team that wins either, he is on the right path. BUT that is all this means, it is still a long time from the Summer of 10th Grade when recruiting really kicks in.
Yes. Old news already. They have him and 2 others age eligible playing down for the WS. 1 of them has played in a few tournaments with them in the past few years. I’m sure there will be multiple teams that will have age eligible 28’s playing down so to guess who has an advantage at the moment is a wild guess either way.
Surprised venom goalie wants to play on a weak 91team
To each there own
Why are you surprised? It’s not the kids who detest the tournament. It’s just half the parents on BOTC.
A joke and a money grab. Teams should avoid going and having families spend or have to fundraise thousands upon thousands for another tournament that lines the pockets of the organizers. There are plenty of legit tournaments to enter without having to “qualify” for this sham tournament.
Thousands upon thousands?? What are you spending that
of money on??
If the tournament was still in minnesota i could understand fundraising to offset some travel costs. Just like i could understand teams from out west fundraising to offset costs for travel to pennsylvania (except we know now no teams from the west region signed up for the qualifier). There’s almost no justification to raise funds now for just another lacrosse tournament on the I-95 corridor.
So there was no West qualifier?
So there was no West qualifier?
Doesn’t seem to be any tournament on tourney app so guess not. They don’t have strong teams in this age group out west or down south so that’s why they aren’t bothering to enter. Facts.
So there was no West qualifier?
91 Colorado on the board
So there was no West qualifier?
Apparently 91 Colorado is in it and I know Kings will be. They had tryouts for teams. Looking at the South though they only had 4 teams play in the qualifiers so maybe the West didn't have enough. Seems like last year it was a bigger turnout for the qualifiers
Anyone have list of North and East Teams?
Anyone have list of North and East Teams?
North is the usual suspects plus some randoms: Mooselax, Albany Power, Orange Crush, Sweetlax, Harvest, Preds, Legacy, Igloo, “Boston WS”, S2S, Eclipse x2, Primetime, Rebels, Express, Express North, 91 x2, 91 Tristate, GC Elite, 2way, Recon, “Whalers”.
That’s the list I’ve seen for North. Don’t have East.
Nationals boat raced Red Hots. What do parents do when their child has a hard time with smaller kids?
Qualifier schedules are out.
Nationals boat raced Red Hots. What do parents do when their child has a hard time with smaller kids?
Was that the holdback bowl at the NL Invitational?
Qualifier schedules are out.
You get to qualify! And you get to qualify! You get to qualify! Everyone qualifies!
You get the shirt that says I’m the number one knucklehead!
Pretty forgiving format. I’d say Igloo and Rebels have it tough.
Pretty forgiving format. I’d say Igloo and Rebels have it tough.
Out of curiosity, why is that?
Rebels may go 0-3 tough draw for a mediocre squad
Pretty forgiving format. I’d say Igloo and Rebels have it tough.
Out of curiosity, why is that?
Both the rebels and igloo are good teams. I assume the person who said they have it tough is being sarcastic.
Rebels may go 0-3 tough draw for a mediocre squad
They do have a tough draw but I don't agree with that take. I think they're still likely to advance, but it's definitely not a given.
Who did Igloo pay for that easy schedule?
Who did Igloo pay for that easy schedule?
Whoever runs the tournament put out rankings. They are most likely going to rank 1, whatever that means. And that’s why they technically should have an easier schedule. Same goes for 91. And even for rebels who were ranked 7 by the powers that be. All of those teams are playing teams ranked well below them.
Any rankings that incorporate fall ball are bogus. So many single A player call ups because of in season sport call ups.
Who did Igloo pay for that easy schedule?
Whoever runs the tournament put out rankings. They are most likely going to rank 1, whatever that means. And that’s why they technically should have an easier schedule. Same goes for 91. And even for rebels who were ranked 7 by the powers that be. All of those teams are playing teams ranked well below them.
They should have to earn their ranking in the World Series through pool play in the qualifiers just like any other tournament.
Igloo certainly is good and so are the rebels. But you have no idea what express n, 2way, eclipse, Boston, etc will look like.
Igloo certainly is good and so are the rebels. But you have no idea what express n, 2way, eclipse, Boston, etc will look like.
Eclipse will likely be in the finals next weekend.
I’ll take Boston and Eclipse in the finals
Igloo certainly is good and so are the rebels. But you have no idea what express n, 2way, eclipse, Boston, etc will look like.
Eclipse will likely be in the finals next weekend.
Very likely
Eclipse is a very good team! Not to sure how these rankings go but they are definitely top 3. I’m a little confused on how they rank teams. I guess like some people say, you can’t go by these rankings! Good luck to all these boys in the Spring.
What club is "Boston"? Are they trying the "throw together a bunch of kids from all of our clubs because all of us have too many hold-backs to field an actual team from our own actual club" move they tried last year at the WS? I think it was "Blue Jays" last year. Never seen before or after the World Series.
What club is "Boston"? Are they trying the "throw together a bunch of kids from all of our clubs because all of us have too many hold-backs to field an actual team from our own actual club" move they tried last year at the WS? I think it was "Blue Jays" last year. Never seen before or after the World Series.
That’s what makes this the greatest tournament!
What club is "Boston"? Are they trying the "throw together a bunch of kids from all of our clubs because all of us have too many hold-backs to field an actual team from our own actual club" move they tried last year at the WS? I think it was "Blue Jays" last year. Never seen before or after the World Series.
That’s exactly what it is.
Technically not breaking any rules so whatever.
What club is "Boston"? Are they trying the "throw together a bunch of kids from all of our clubs because all of us have too many hold-backs to field an actual team from our own actual club" move they tried last year at the WS? I think it was "Blue Jays" last year. Never seen before or after the World Series.
Correct. It’s mostly 3d and 4leaf with some Laxachusetts and Tomahawks mixed in. Laxachusetts directors discourage WS.
How many 28’s are playing for igloo at WS
Rebels nice 4-0 day, taking down the spring launch
Good day of lax for the 29s last tune up. Few surprises.
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How many 28’s are playing for igloo at WS
Not as many as you’d thing. Just curious, what does it matter? What’s your point?
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Did 4 rebels parents just come on here and mention/insinuate the rebels win today? Or was it the same person posting 4 times?
Yes, there will be some surprises.
Did 4 rebels parents just come on here and mention/insinuate the rebels win today? Or was it the same person posting 4 times?
Yes, there will be some surprises.
Who knows. Let’s see what the qualifier brings. 91 and Express as always will likely rise to the top.
Spring Launch Tournament…Rebels stand up!!!
As in stand up comedy?
Jokes on you pal. Keep the tears coming.
Pretty weak of 91 not to schedule Chaos against any of the big teams they will see in World Series.
Pretty weak of 91 not to schedule Chaos against any of the big teams they will see in World Series.
Igloo, Eclipse and Boston did not play yesterday.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Pretty weak of 91 not to schedule Chaos against any of the big teams they will see in World Series.
Igloo, Eclipse and Boston did not play yesterday.
Haha, they could’ve played Express and Mooselax but chickened out.
Rebels will qualify but will be very quiet at WS.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
Pretty weak of 91 not to schedule Chaos against any of the big teams they will see in World Series.
Igloo, Eclipse and Boston did not play yesterday.
Haha, they could’ve played Express and Mooselax but chickened out.
Speaking of Express and Mooselax, what happened with that game? The score in the game between those two teams seemed surprising.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
This is code for disgruntled parent. A bunch this weekend when they saw their kids playing time was significantly reduced while the on age 28’s played.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
Were kids playing who are not eligible for WS?
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
Were kids playing who are not eligible for WS?
Probably a kid here or there on a couple of teams that are not eligible.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
Were kids playing who are not eligible for WS?
Probably a kid here or there on a couple of teams that are not eligible.
Just ask 2way since they got away with it last year.
Were the rosters for each team yesterday be the same in Delaware?
Of course not. Players are still being courted.
Were kids playing who are not eligible for WS?
Probably a kid here or there on a couple of teams that are not eligible.
Just ask 2way since they got away with it last year.
Yup.
Weren’t they supposed to be banned or were they found to be not guilty of what they were accused of? It was going out of the 100 mile radius right?
Weren’t they supposed to be banned or were they found to be not guilty of what they were accused of? It was going out of the 100 mile radius right?
Yes.
Coaches from another team noticed.
Nothing happened.
The World Series officials let 2way get away with using older players for multiple games without having to forfeit any wins. The players found to be older were banned for the later part of the tournament.
Weren’t they supposed to be banned or were they found to be not guilty of what they were accused of? It was going out of the 100 mile radius right?
The rules said they should have been banned and thrown out of the tournament. They care more about money.
2way’s issue was a forgotten jersey that turned into a conspiracy about pa kids playing on the team. The 2way PA kids played for Freedom and not 2way. So the only real complaint against them would be one player who was on age and within distance needing to change jersey numbers last minute.
They had older kids. Keep your eye out this yr as well. There’s no telling who will be looking to cheat this year.
They had older kids. Keep your eye out this yr as well. There’s no telling who will be looking to cheat this year.
The jersey swapping was to throw teams off.
They had older kids. Keep your eye out this yr as well. There’s no telling who will be looking to cheat this year.
Look at all the teams, east and north and it’s not too hard to figure which ones will try. You have 2Way who has been caught in the past, and 2 teams out of another state with reputations of calling in questionable kids with ever changing rosters.
They had older kids. Keep your eye out this yr as well. There’s no telling who will be looking to cheat this year.
I highly doubt the age thing will be an issue. Nobody is bringing older kids.
Pretty weak of 91 not to schedule Chaos against any of the big teams they will see in World Series.
Igloo, Eclipse and Boston did not play yesterday.
Haha, they could’ve played Express and Mooselax but chickened out.
Speaking of Express and Mooselax, what happened with that game? The score in the game between those two teams seemed surprising.
In my opinion, Express is a premier nationally recognized so the results from 4th and 5th grade will generally change year over year. They just draw in better players every year and have high level HS coaches running these teams. In my view, it makes a difference.
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Rebels win it all this year!
Team 91, maybe you should have proof read the coaches comments for the World Series before sending them out.
The Moose Herd is coming…….
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Who really wants to be the guy who voluntarily removes or goes after the uva associate head coaches kid? This is a networking sport more than any other.
You shoot your shot and let the rules take care of it like they are supposed to. It all worked out as it should.
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Isn’t this an age based tournament? So any 2028 who’s born after 9/1/2010 is eligible.
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Who really wants to be the guy who voluntarily removes or goes after the uva associate head coaches kid? This is a networking sport more than any other.
You shoot your shot and let the rules take care of it like they are supposed to. It all worked out as it should.
This is a disgrace teams cheating refs helping like last year for 91. All 91 needs to do is have coaches playing again.
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Who really wants to be the guy who voluntarily removes or goes after the uva associate head coaches kid? This is a networking sport more than any other.
You shoot your shot and let the rules take care of it like they are supposed to. It all worked out as it should.
This is a disgrace teams cheating refs helping like last year for 91. All 91 needs to do is have coaches playing again.
Wonder if any other team got special “consideration’s”? Not sure why they bother posting rules if they are not going to enforce them. I’m sure other teams have a kid who would love to be playing with his teammates but no exceptions were made. But it all makes sense 91 gets what they want including what appears to be a not so competitive bracket day 1 . Somethings I guess will never change .
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Who really wants to be the guy who voluntarily removes or goes after the uva associate head coaches kid? This is a networking sport more than any other.
You shoot your shot and let the rules take care of it like they are supposed to. It all worked out as it should.
This is a disgrace teams cheating refs helping like last year for 91. All 91 needs to do is have coaches playing again.
Refs helped 91 last year? Clearly you sir were not present
Or maybe 91 should have removed the kid on the team roster image that has lived in PA and now VA. So much for the 100 mile rule for 91.
Who really wants to be the guy who voluntarily removes or goes after the uva associate head coaches kid? This is a networking sport more than any other.
You shoot your shot and let the rules take care of it like they are supposed to. It all worked out as it should.
This is a disgrace teams cheating refs helping like last year for 91. All 91 needs to do is have coaches playing again.
Refs helped 91 last year? Clearly you sir were not present
Yeh they did! You are just biased.
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Isn’t this an age based tournament? So any 2028 who’s born after 9/1/2010 is eligible.
Yes most teams have 28s.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
It don’t matter.
No team from Long Island is beating eclipse.
It don’t matter.
No team from Long Island is beating eclipse.
Because express lost them them lol?
Orange( 2nd team) beat 91- WOW t
Great showing today by all LI teams. Some obviously better than others but all should be proud!
It don’t matter.
No team from Long Island is beating eclipse.
Because express lost them them lol?
Um no.
Because they are better lacrosse players lol
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As in stand up comedy?
Jokes on you pal. Keep the tears coming.
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I think Legacy is only non NLF club to have won this with the 2021 team. But I would consider them on that level with some of the players and teams they have produced over the years.
Eclipse showed the are the best team in the country. No doubt! Only gave up 8 goals in 5 games. Outscored their opponents 48-8! Dominant performance.
Great showing today by all LI teams. Some obviously better than others but all should be proud!
i agree. the long island teams did well. but eclipse looks tough.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
Eclipse will win it all. Book it.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
doesn't the 1 seed usually get a easier bracket? but if you looked at all the brackets they actually had a tougher bracket than the 2 seed so not sure how your evaluating things and pretty much all the brackets had very similiar makeups
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What are you doing on here? You are going to be late for your NLF circle meeting, don’t forget the lube.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
Rebels may go 0-3 tough draw for a mediocre squad
This aged like milk.
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Rebels bring 2028’s with them to the WS!
Isn’t this an age based tournament? So any 2028 who’s born after 9/1/2010 is eligible.
Yes most teams have 28s.
The Rebels team will also use those 2028's during non-age based tournaments. Watch and see....
Tough Draw? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Easiest draw at the tournament. Now the Rebels Moms and Coaches can brag on social media. Also, classy program posting a video of a player cursing in a team meeting after they qualified. Next year try using all Rebels players and not 91 Empire players to fill voids. Didn't play by the rules at 91, why would he play by the rules at Rebels.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
What teams from the North and East qualifier are moving onto the WS?
Tough Draw? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Easiest draw at the tournament. Now the Rebels Moms and Coaches can brag on social media. Also, classy program posting a video of a player cursing in a team meeting after they qualified. Next year try using all Rebels players and not 91 Empire players to fill voids. Didn't play by the rules at 91, why would he play by the rules at Rebels.
Did you really get triggered by a video bleeping out a curse word?
91 Empire still has a team at this age?
The only teams that broke the rules this weekend were Red Hots (disqualified) and 91, as their starting attackman live in Virginia.
Congrats to all the teams that qualified, a lot of hard work goes in from all parents coaches staff and players.
Tough Draw? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Easiest draw at the tournament. Now the Rebels Moms and Coaches can brag on social media. Also, classy program posting a video of a player cursing in a team meeting after they qualified. Next year try using all Rebels players and not 91 Empire players to fill voids. Didn't play by the rules at 91, why would he play by the rules at Rebels.
Did you really get triggered by a video bleeping out a curse word?
91 Empire still has a team at this age?
The only teams that broke the rules this weekend were Red Hots (disqualified) and 91, as their starting attackman live in Virginia.
Congrats to all the teams that qualified, a lot of hard work goes in from all parents coaches staff and players.
Thank you Rebels Coach!
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
Great spin by your argument 91 is terrible as they lost to a B team .
Tough Draw? Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Easiest draw at the tournament. Now the Rebels Moms and Coaches can brag on social media. Also, classy program posting a video of a player cursing in a team meeting after they qualified. Next year try using all Rebels players and not 91 Empire players to fill voids. Didn't play by the rules at 91, why would he play by the rules at Rebels.
91 and moose had the easiest draws. is that even a question?
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
Great spin by your argument 91 is terrible as they lost to a B team .
Chaos didn’t lose to a B team so you don’t know what you are talking about. 91 Power lost to a B team but they are a B team so who cares? No one was talking about 91 Power.
Thank you to all Rebels Coaches - tremendous staff.
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
Great spin by your argument 91 is terrible as they lost to a B team .
Chaos didn’t lose to a B team so you don’t know what you are talking about. 91 Power lost to a B team but they are a B team so who cares? No one was talking about 91 Power.
I’m sorry is the app wrong looks like they played Eclipse B and did not win is the app wrong?
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
Great spin by your argument 91 is terrible as they lost to a B team .
Chaos didn’t lose to a B team so you don’t know what you are talking about. 91 Power lost to a B team but they are a B team so who cares? No one was talking about 91 Power.
91 literally lost to Eclipse Orange (B) on Saturday….
How many LI teams qualified? This tournament should be town based like the LLWS and it may actually help grow the sport. Each year 5/ teams qualify, and it is completely watered down. I could see 1 team representing LI and possibly 1 from upstate. But how teams lose 2 or 3 games in a qualifier and celebrate going to the World Series is a joke. A town tournament would generate more interest but not as much money, so it won't happen. Which teams from LI are in the World Series?
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
But they're probably 6 of the better/best teams in the country.
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
But they're probably 6 of the better/best teams in the country.
def igloo/91 up there the others still have some to prove also could argue of those teams which actually play as a team all year every year vs those that are made up of 28's/29's
Igloo 3-0, no surprise. Easiest schedule. Played 2 B teams.
Every bracket had 2 b teams get a clue
All pools except 5 and 6 had two true B teams, that is true.
When they had to play decent teams they struggled. Clearly the best team is Eclipse by far.
Great spin by your argument 91 is terrible as they lost to a B team .
Chaos didn’t lose to a B team so you don’t know what you are talking about. 91 Power lost to a B team but they are a B team so who cares? No one was talking about 91 Power.
91 literally lost to Eclipse Orange (B) on Saturday….
Wow you are correct 91 did lose to a B team!!
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
How many teams from NJ, PA, LI and CT went to the qualifier?
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
Why is it a joke? The other teams from Long Island didn’t play well. This wasn’t exactly a strong qualifier to begin with.
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As in stand up comedy?
Jokes on you pal. Keep the tears coming.
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What are you doing on here? You are going to be late for your NLF circle meeting, don’t forget the lube.
Thats funny. Good one. Check back and let us know how things go on Sept 1, 2027.
Spring Launch Tournament…Rebels stand up!!!
As in stand up comedy?
Jokes on you pal. Keep the tears coming.
NLF clubs, per usual, stand up
What are you doing on here? You are going to be late for your NLF circle meeting, don’t forget the lube.
Thats funny. Good one. Check back and let us know how things go on Sept 1, 2027.
Regardless of how many colleges are contacting their kid on Sept 1 of their junior year, please acknowledge that their circle meeting comment was actually really funny.
Spring Launch Tournament…Rebels stand up!!!
As in stand up comedy?
Jokes on you pal. Keep the tears coming.
NLF clubs, per usual, stand up
What are you doing on here? You are going to be late for your NLF circle meeting, don’t forget the lube.
Thats funny. Good one. Check back and let us know how things go on Sept 1, 2027.
Check back again this June when your coach flies a kid in to play your son’s position.
91 chaos
Express
Legacy
Moose
Igloo
Rebels
That is a complete joke. 6 teams from LI in a World Series??? Come on.....
Why is it a joke? The other teams from Long Island didn’t play well. This wasn’t exactly a strong qualifier to begin with.
Bc 5 teams from LI make it to the WS... It should be 1 max. Really should be 1 from all of NY. Get the 8 best teams from across the country and make it legitimate. Run it like the LLWS.
Yeh that doesn’t work because in baseball there are great teams in every state. In lacrosse there are hotbeds of lacrosse and many areas of the country that do not play high level lacrosse. The system they have now ensures the best teams that sign up make it to the W.S.
Yeh that doesn’t work because in baseball there are great teams in every state. In lacrosse there are hotbeds of lacrosse and many areas of the country that do not play high level lacrosse. The system they have now ensures the best teams that sign up make it to the W.S.
100% accurate
If you learn how to count it’s 6 teams
Can you be more specific?
91 didn’t cheat. The tournament organizers provided permission for 91 to use a player that has been with its club for several years and aside from his talent is a great young man and teammate. It can be argued that if they were given an exemption to a specific eligibility rule, then other teams should have also received the same benefit or courtesy. Another argument can be made that several teams may not required an exemption and may have faced a tougher opponent and but for the exemption may have beaten 91.
91 didn’t cheat. The tournament organizers provided permission for 91 to use a player that has been with its club for several years and aside from his talent is a great young man and teammate. It can be argued that if they were given an exemption to a specific eligibility rule, then other teams should have also received the same benefit or courtesy. Another argument can be made that several teams may not required an exemption and may have faced a tougher opponent and but for the exemption may have beaten 91.
But that’s the issue it has nothing to do with the player why did they(91) get an exemption and others didn’t I’m sure there are very similar situations across some teams . If you do it for one you must do it for all and if you don’t everyone has the right to be suspect of the process and rules. But let’s not kid ourselves we all know the organization played in the grey as well to make it happen. So the rules are not black and white or maybe just for some. Sad that the ruling board ruined it for a few and took away a few kids opportunity for an event but made an exemption for one because of the Orginization he played for or some other reason. Either way it is was it is . It’s just sad that not even youth sports can be fair and what some adults will do just to pound their chest and say look at how great we are!
Ok Rebels parents and coaches, you qualified, you did not win the WS. Relax with the social media posts. It is about the kids, don't make it about you guys. Stop posting, you didn't even win the qualifier. Pathetic!!!!
I think this is just the exact problem with club lacrosse in general. Its the wild west as it relates to rules in general and rules enforcement and consistency and often makes these events and youth lacrosse in general look silly compared to other sports that do a much better job overall. That's a comment not specific to this age group or this tournament, but an overall one. Anyone with boys that have already been through the process end to end would probably acknowledge this reality.
The one comment that bothers me is about the individual. Its nice for the kid to be able to play with his long time teammates and congrats to him for being a good player and person, but that should have no bearing on the decision and application of this long standing and very well known 100 mile rule for this event. These types of decisions regardless of justification just diminish credibility and that happens so often that we get to the point that rules appear meaningless sadly. well, rant over.
Good luck to all this summer and I hope everyone's kids have fun and get better. That's more important than the adult led rule breaking non-sense anyway.
91 didn’t cheat. The tournament organizers provided permission for 91 to use a player that has been with its club for several years and aside from his talent is a great young man and teammate. It can be argued that if they were given an exemption to a specific eligibility rule, then other teams should have also received the same benefit or courtesy. Another argument can be made that several teams may not required an exemption and may have faced a tougher opponent and but for the exemption may have beaten 91.
Great take but this has everything to do with his talent. If he was a great young man and teammate but a terrible player, exemptions would not be sought.
Congrats to the Rebels I believe this is the first team they have ever had qualify Big step for them as a program Only advice, be humble and let the kids enjoy the experience Winning the WS is a pipe dream for this group, so let the kids have fun and cut out all the bs hype and posts.
Hey 91 Coach or Parent - you used a player who is valuable to your team but otherwise not eligible to play whether prior or current address. Stay quiet and humble because your organization receives favors and rule bending not enjoyed by any others.
91 didn’t cheat. The tournament organizers provided permission for 91 to use a player that has been with its club for several years and aside from his talent is a great young man and teammate. It can be argued that if they were given an exemption to a specific eligibility rule, then other teams should have also received the same benefit or courtesy. Another argument can be made that several teams may not required an exemption and may have faced a tougher opponent and but for the exemption may have beaten 91.
To be fair to 91 although I agree with most of your statement they didn’t have the most challenging bracket but that’s a whole different discussion. Even without the exception they would have probably finished with the same result.
Congrats to the Rebels I believe this is the first team they have ever had qualify Big step for them as a program Only advice, be humble and let the kids enjoy the experience Winning the WS is a pipe dream for this group, so let the kids have fun and cut out all the bs hype and posts.
I agree with what your saying. But their 2025 team did qualify when it was the old WSYL.
So 91 cheated. They just received permission to cheat the rest of the field. Ridiculous. The World Series has rules and they throw them out as soon as 91 asks. 91 should be embarrassed but some people are so blinded by the need to win at all costs that they lose the ability to feel embarrassed.
Hey 91 Coach or Parent - you used a player who is valuable to your team but otherwise not eligible to play whether prior or current address. Stay quiet and humble because your organization receives favors and rule bending not enjoyed by any others.
I wonder how the boy that got benched for the illegal player feels. Probably the polar opposite of how the kid who didn’t qualify feels. Great for team morale. There are other options, your kid doesn’t need to stick around on a team that doesn’t value him.
The LWSC is clearly compromised. The kowtowing to the location change is exhibit A. The discrepancies in the talent pools in the North qualifiers were obvious. Even the officiating was suspicious. Talking to a colleague who is a Predators dad and they got by 2way because of two disallowed goals for inadvertent whistles. The organizers knows everyone hates them for last year. I’m sure there was some other quirky stuff going on. They can’t have this event without full LI buy in.
The LWSC is clearly compromised. The kowtowing to the location change is exhibit A. The discrepancies in the talent pools in the North qualifiers were obvious. Even the officiating was suspicious. Talking to a colleague who is a Predators dad and they got by 2way because of two disallowed goals for inadvertent whistles. The organizers knows everyone hates them for last year. I’m sure there was some other quirky stuff going on. They can’t have this event without full LI buy in.
Bottom line is it’s now just another tournament. The participation has decreased each year. It’s run by people who own a lacrosse club. Just like most other tourneys out there. The real WSYL died when Jake pulled the plug on it years ago.
The LWSC is clearly compromised. The kowtowing to the location change is exhibit A. The discrepancies in the talent pools in the North qualifiers were obvious. Even the officiating was suspicious. Talking to a colleague who is a Predators dad and they got by 2way because of two disallowed goals for inadvertent whistles. The organizers knows everyone hates them for last year. I’m sure there was some other quirky stuff going on. They can’t have this event without full LI buy in.
Bottom line is it’s now just another tournament. The participation has decreased each year. It’s run by people who own a lacrosse club. Just like most other tourneys out there. The real WSYL died when Jake pulled the plug on it years ago.
It’s run by US Lax Events which is associated with True Lacrosse.
They obviously saw an opportunity to cash in and did so.
I find it interesting no one, not one commenter, has mentioned how much the kids enjoy it. You can call it whatever you want, you can make excuses as to why and teams don’t play, why certain clubs didn’t make it; what you can’t deny is how much fun the experience is for the kids. My son played last year, didn’t win, but didn’t care…enjoyed every moment (other than the final scores)
One day I hope you all realize lax ain’t about you and your ego -
The LWSC is clearly compromised. The kowtowing to the location change is exhibit A. The discrepancies in the talent pools in the North qualifiers were obvious. Even the officiating was suspicious. Talking to a colleague who is a Predators dad and they got by 2way because of two disallowed goals for inadvertent whistles. The organizers knows everyone hates them for last year. I’m sure there was some other quirky stuff going on. They can’t have this event without full LI buy in.
Bottom line is it’s now just another tournament. The participation has decreased each year. It’s run by people who own a lacrosse club. Just like most other tourneys out there. The real WSYL died when Jake pulled the plug on it years ago.
It’s run by US Lax Events which is associated with True Lacrosse.
They obviously saw an opportunity to cash in and did so.
That’s fine. That was my point. It’s really just another tournament. Nothing special
Ok Rebels parents and coaches, you qualified, you did not win the WS. Relax with the social media posts. It is about the kids, don't make it about you guys. Stop posting, you didn't even win the qualifier. Pathetic!!!!
They are posting the kids, kids seem to enjoy that. Seems like to you nothing Rebels do is good. First it was they wont qualify. Then people saw them doing well, then it was they wont do well at qualifiers, but they will squeak in. Now they go 3-0 in one of harder brackets, make it to semi's and lose to Eclipse. Now its "you didn't win the qualifier, you shouldnt be posting videos". What's it gonna be next?
Are you asking why 91 is posting videos on social media? Or Mooselax? Or any of the other teams that qualified?
I find it interesting no one, not one commenter, has mentioned how much the kids enjoy it. You can call it whatever you want, you can make excuses as to why and teams don’t play, why certain clubs didn’t make it; what you can’t deny is how much fun the experience is for the kids. My son played last year, didn’t win, but didn’t care…enjoyed every moment (other than the final scores)
One day I hope you all realize lax ain’t about you and your ego -
Perhaps the best post I have seen this whole year on this 7th grade board. My son played last year. Him and all of his teammates loved it. They still watch videos from the event.
Not sure if you are new here but let me educate you on selling - the Rebels detest comes from the insufferable rebels parents that come on here and spew rebels nonsense. Sometimes it’s the directors (which I know for a fact), sometimes it’s the kids and sometimes it’s the parents, but they are always pounding their chest.
You guys did it to yourself - congrats on qualifying. Nobody on here is going to root for you, spanky, just enjoy it
91 Cheated, and it's Embarrassing that Virginia coach let it happen.
Not sure if you are new here but let me educate you on selling - the Rebels detest comes from the insufferable rebels parents that come on here and spew rebels nonsense. Sometimes it’s the directors (which I know for a fact), sometimes it’s the kids and sometimes it’s the parents, but they are always pounding their chest.
You guys did it to yourself - congrats on qualifying. Nobody on here is going to root for you, spanky, just enjoy it
How would you know that for “a fact”?
Parents from EVERY club seem to come on here and “brag”
Seems like you are simply a serial rebels hater.
91 Cheated, and it's Embarrassing that Virginia coach let it happen.
That individual you’re referring to is a high character person. If the organizers let his son play, then any team or any parent who has an issue with it should bring it up with the organizers or withdraw their teams if they qualified, and if they didn’t qualify, they should not support future tournaments run by the organizers.
91 Cheated, and it's Embarrassing that Virginia coach let it happen.
Dad coaches. No player development, recruit players from other teams and win at all costs. Cheating is par for the course!
2Way last year, 91 this year!
Cheaters plain and simple. When a Div 1 coach goes along with it, it’s embarrassing.
Cheaters plain and simple. When a Div 1 coach goes along with it, it’s embarrassing.
Before you or others, make such type of accusations, you must make sure that it was actually outside the rules and 100 mile radius. Word has it that the residence in November prior to leaving for Virginia was less than 100 miles away from headquarters.
Cheaters plain and simple. When a Div 1 coach goes along with it, it’s embarrassing.
Before you or others, make such type of accusations, you must make sure that it was actually outside the rules and 100 mile radius. Word has it that the residence in November prior to leaving for Virginia was less than 100 miles away from headquarters.
False they played games with practice locations
The Eclipse goalie lives in Florida too…
The Eclipse goalie lives in Florida too…
If his parents live with him in Florida, then they bent the rules or cheated as well!. Like the other person said, those who have an issue with the organizers, bending the rules for some, and not for others, should then boycott the actual World Series or their organization should not put in teams in the qualifier. Let them get hurt financially maybe they’ll issue a big apology or start Keeping rules as black-and-white.
The Eclipse goalie lives in Florida too…
Correct. At least for the entire school year he lives there.
I guess seen as his parents maintain their home address in the Eclipse radius it’s okay.
The 100 mile radius rule doesn’t work in metropolitan areas, for example look at 2 Way last year, there were kids on that team from CT, NY (upstate), Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts, and they were all added specifically for the WS, it should be a club tournament, not a national, leave that for the circuit
The best way in my opinion is to play on the WS team you had to have played with the club for at least the year before. These all star teams made specifically for it (ie boston) totally delegitimize the event
The Eclipse goalie lives in Florida too…
Correct. At least for the entire school year he lives there.
I guess seen as his parents maintain their home address in the Eclipse radius it’s okay.
It’s good to be wealthy, makes it easier to cheat.
91 is also uploading their own videos for their coaches kids to look good on the WS account.Pathetic.They lost to Eclipse B on Saturday because the player that scores 90% of their goals got ejected and the weak left overs got exposed.They brought down 4 kids from their older teams.Without them and especially the one,they are a B team at best.You will see in other tournaments when they do not have their hired help.They also just had a big part of their team walk off because of the daddy ball culture and the use of kids from other teams just to get wins.
91 is also uploading their own videos for their coaches kids to look good on the WS account.Pathetic.They lost to Eclipse B on Saturday because the player that scores 90% of their goals got ejected and the weak left overs got exposed.They brought down 4 kids from their older teams.Without them and especially the one,they are a B team at best.You will see in other tournaments when they do not have their hired help.They also just had a big part of their team walk off because of the daddy ball culture and the use of kids from other teams just to get wins.
keep crying
I find it interesting no one, not one commenter, has mentioned how much the kids enjoy it. You can call it whatever you want, you can make excuses as to why and teams don’t play, why certain clubs didn’t make it; what you can’t deny is how much fun the experience is for the kids. My son played last year, didn’t win, but didn’t care…enjoyed every moment (other than the final scores)
One day I hope you all realize lax ain’t about you and your ego -
If your kid is on a team that doesn’t get to play top teams then maybe your point is valid. If he enjoys showing up and losing a bunch of games by a lot then yeah it’s fun. For a lot of us driving to North Carolina last year to play teams we play in the tri state all the time is a waste. They literally had to change the location this year because none of the top teams would travel to Minnesota.
91 is also uploading their own videos for their coaches kids to look good on the WS account.Pathetic.They lost to Eclipse B on Saturday because the player that scores 90% of their goals got ejected and the weak left overs got exposed.They brought down 4 kids from their older teams.Without them and especially the one,they are a B team at best.You will see in other tournaments when they do not have their hired help.They also just had a big part of their team walk off because of the daddy ball culture and the use of kids from other teams just to get wins.
I don’t know the quality of the player that left 91 but that team will be second to none by the summer if they remain healthy. Injuries were the main reason for the lopsided score against Eclipse. 91 has 3 of the top goalies at this age level, their attack is top 3 on the east coast, deepest midfield and the overall and undisputed top player at the 2029 age group. Only weakness if it can be even called a weakness is their lack of depth on D.
They lost to Eclipse B on Saturday because the player who scores all of their goals got ejected.How does that show depth? He more then doubled the rest of the team in goals for the entire weekend.Their defense is their strength and the attack is extremely undersized.And like a previous post said, the 3rd goalie ,top goal scorer and some others are not on their regular roster.They have other tournaments that they will have to play without their added world series players and that will exposé the attack man culture that this team was built on.The player that left was a backbone player who helped carry the team through the years.Its a devastating loss.And I believe he went to Igloo.Does anyone know if this is true?And there were no injuries besides one attack man for the Eclipse game.They got rolled even with their added players.Although the one did have all 3 goals for them.He is a top tier player for sure.To bad he plays for Venom and not Chaos.
The player who left 91 was not even in their rotation, he was a marginal player. Probably will wind up on the turtles or true blue. 91 year in year out has top-tier coaches the staff will make sure that the team will be ready for the rest of the upcoming travel season as long as they stay injury free, they are top three in the country even without the players from the 28 class.
I feel bad for this person, so much detest over youth lax. The player in question is AWESOME and is a true 2029. There is no cheating, there is no misconception of the rules, and he is a legit 2029 and without a doubt the best 2029. He played for Venom because he is that good. Please stop hating on a 13-year-old kid. He is going to make your kid better, just sit back and enjoy the show.
I feel bad for this person, so much detest over youth lax. The player in question is AWESOME and is a true 2029. There is no cheating, there is no misconception of the rules, and he is a legit 2029 and without a doubt the best 2029. He played for Venom because he is that good. Please stop hating on a 13-year-old kid. He is going to make your kid better, just sit back and enjoy the show.
I don’t believe any person posting on this site has said anything negative about that true 2029 that plays on Venom. Everyone acknowledges that he is a great player as well as a very good kid. Reading comprehension must’ve been your weakest subject in school.
The player who left 91 was not even in their rotation, he was a marginal player. Probably will wind up on the turtles or true blue. 91 year in year out has top-tier coaches the staff will make sure that the team will be ready for the rest of the upcoming travel season as long as they stay injury free, they are top three in the country even without the players from the 28 class.
respectfully disagree without the Venom player and the 28's slightly above average but with some talent
It’s the delusional 91 parent and coach that think they do no wrong and get easily offended.As you can see they do not recognize the fact that the Venom player was their whole team in the qualifiers and without him they lost to the Eclipse B team.Much more of that to come at Tri Star and the NLF.How sad to lie about injuries just because they got spanked 9-3 (3 goals by venom)? And to [Censored] a former player of your own just because he left due to the toxic culture of the team just goes to show what type of DBs are associated with this team.
It’s the delusional 91 parent and coach that think they do no wrong and get easily offended.As you can see they do not recognize the fact that the Venom player was their whole team in the qualifiers and without him they lost to the Eclipse B team.Much more of that to come at Tri Star and the NLF.How sad to lie about injuries just because they got spanked 9-3 (3 goals by venom)? And to [Censored] a former player of your own just because he left due to the toxic culture of the team just goes to show what type of DBs are associated with this team.
The first post addressing any of this literally called the 91 kids weak leftovers. I’d say any response from someone associated with that team after that is pretty much fair game.
91 as a club is definitely on a downward spiral
All roads in LI lead to 91 or Express, figure it out
This is the funniest stuff I’ve ever read, let your kids go have fun and stop complaining. The range rule is notIntelligent it’s not a problem in any other tournament. Kids move around not to any decision of their own. They shouldn’t lose friends or teammates because of it. Complain about the age verification if you want but let’s be real and watch any college lacrosse game. You’ll see a 6th year 24 year old senior guarding a 18 year old freshman. It’s not cheating. Deal with it, you think the college coach is going to complain to the ref he’s so much older than my guy 😭 no he’s going to tell the kid to beat him. You all take this way too serious and need to take a step back from the game.
Sincerely- someone who has played in the past decade
This is the funniest stuff I’ve ever read, let your kids go have fun and stop complaining. The range rule is notIntelligent it’s not a problem in any other tournament. Kids move around not to any decision of their own. They shouldn’t lose friends or teammates because of it. Complain about the age verification if you want but let’s be real and watch any college lacrosse game. You’ll see a 6th year 24 year old senior guarding a 18 year old freshman. It’s not cheating. Deal with it, you think the college coach is going to complain to the ref he’s so much older than my guy 😭 no he’s going to tell the kid to beat him. You all take this way too serious and need to take a step back from the game.
Sincerely- someone who has played in the past decade
Guy who played in last decade,
It is cheating to reclass but that’s probably how you found a spot on a team. You wouldn’t do it if it didn’t help. 100 mile rule makes sense because it’s supposed to be a team not national team. If 1 kids parents move and he can’t play on his old team that was the parents decision. It shouldn’t negatively affect everyone else. The problem with college sports is the 24/25 yr old senior. He’s stealing time from someone who was talented enough to play on age. Plus in my day he was considered a super senior which was not a compliment.
Signed,
Someone that played and has morals!
This is the funniest stuff I’ve ever read, let your kids go have fun and stop complaining. The range rule is notIntelligent it’s not a problem in any other tournament. Kids move around not to any decision of their own. They shouldn’t lose friends or teammates because of it. Complain about the age verification if you want but let’s be real and watch any college lacrosse game. You’ll see a 6th year 24 year old senior guarding a 18 year old freshman. It’s not cheating. Deal with it, you think the college coach is going to complain to the ref he’s so much older than my guy 😭 no he’s going to tell the kid to beat him. You all take this way too serious and need to take a step back from the game.
Sincerely- someone who has played in the past decade
Guy who played in last decade,
It is cheating to reclass but that’s probably how you found a spot on a team. You wouldn’t do it if it didn’t help. 100 mile rule makes sense because it’s supposed to be a team not national team. If 1 kids parents move and he can’t play on his old team that was the parents decision. It shouldn’t negatively affect everyone else. The problem with college sports is the 24/25 yr old senior. He’s stealing time from someone who was talented enough to play on age. Plus in my day he was considered a super senior which was not a compliment.
Signed,
Someone that played and has morals!
reclass is unfortunately part of the game and it is not going any where...high schools have to do a better job of making it something that cannot benefit a kid athletically.
as for a 24 yr old playing against an 18 yr old...there is a difference. Both boys at that point have fully gone through puberty and are both men or closer to it than a 14 yr old who grew earlier and 12 yr old who is growing late. There is s signficant difference between a pubcesnt 14 yr old who is 6'1" playing against a 12 yr old who is 5'. Not saying it is cheating but you can't compare college it middle school.
Not cheating to reclass, but you can cry about it, it’s pointless because you won’t stop it from happening. Not saying they should but pointless to cry about it. They will play against kids different ages their whole lives
7th grader play against 8th grader in middle school
9th grader play against 12th graders in high school
Freshman go against seniors 21-25 in college
It would be cheating to lie about your age but that’s not what’s being discussed here. Every team that can afford to bring down kids for a tournament with this much publicity should. It’s good for the kids to get some love and the clubs benefit showing up with their best players. [Censored] to not be a big enough club to bring kids down don’t detest the guys that have been in the business longer and have done a good job running their clubs
Good job eclipse and 91 for running a club team effectively
Lots of good things going on with the smaller clubs developing guys just worry about your own kids too much attention on other people it’s sad
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
Read a dictionary please, you obviously have no clue what the definition of cheating is.
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
News for everyone it’s going to become more widely done here on LI. Several 27’s reclassed and if you ask around, you will find multiple 28’s have announced intentions to reclass next year. If your on age son plays for one of the premier clubs or is intending to go catholic, watch out.
Multiple 28’s have announced intentions to reclass…. Who exactly did they announce this to? ESPN?
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
News for everyone it’s going to become more widely done here on LI. Several 27’s reclassed and if you ask around, you will find multiple 28’s have announced intentions to reclass next year. If your on age son plays for one of the premier clubs or is intending to go catholic, watch out.
You should be picking a school for an education not lacrosse but you do you!
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
Read a dictionary please, you obviously have no clue what the definition of cheating is.
You obviously have no moral compass!
Reclassing buys you more time for puberty, more time to train, more time to lift weights. Big difference between 18 and 21, big difference between 18 and 24. There should be rules against this and just because there isn’t doesn’t change the fact that it is cheating.
Read a dictionary please, you obviously have no clue what the definition of cheating is.
cheat
/CHēt/
verb
gerund or present participle: cheating
act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
"she always cheats at cards"
Reclassing certainly is ancting in an unfair way to gain an advantage!
Maybe you should read a dictionary!!!!
Why would you think it’s ok to compare HS years and youth years?Totally different.Thats why age groups and cutoff dates exist in youth and not HS.Sure you can not play HS sports @ 20 years old but to compare is just ridiculous.Holdbacks in middle school or re classes and for the 8th grade dad who had a good 10 year old who leveled out and are now desperate to make them good again.Its shameless.The 91 leftovers comment is spot on.The Venom players did score around or over 90% of their goals the last 2 tournaments.It will be interesting how they do without the 4-5 kids from the older teams helping them.Especially the middy.He seems to be one of the best in his age group right now.I bet he isn’t re classing.
News for everyone it’s going to become more widely done here on LI. Several 27’s reclassed and if you ask around, you will find multiple 28’s have announced intentions to reclass next year. If your on age son plays for one of the premier clubs or is intending to go catholic, watch out.
This isn’t news and it isn’t happening more now than before. There is nothing to watch out for and it isn‘t cheating. Find somewhere else to spew your fake outrage.
Why would you think it’s ok to compare HS years and youth years?Totally different.Thats why age groups and cutoff dates exist in youth and not HS.Sure you can not play HS sports @ 20 years old but to compare is just ridiculous.Holdbacks in middle school or re classes and for the 8th grade dad who had a good 10 year old who leveled out and are now desperate to make them good again.Its shameless.The 91 leftovers comment is spot on.The Venom players did score around or over 90% of their goals the last 2 tournaments.It will be interesting how they do without the 4-5 kids from the older teams helping them.Especially the middy.He seems to be one of the best in his age group right now.I bet he isn’t re classing.
Except it’s only 3 players. And one is a goalie and one is an lsm from surge. Everykne knows this but you. The rosters were released publicly.
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Plenty of Rebels represented
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
I didn’t see a sign up, how much was it?
It's only for holdbacks and cheaters, sorry, your kid didn't make it.
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Sounds like your kid didn’t make the team
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Sounds like your kid didn’t make the team
Nope. I learned my lesson from my older kid. It’s a money grab. You have to pay to play and even pay for your uniform. If you want to pay money so you can post on instagram your kid made it and how proud you are of “all his hard work” have it.
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Sounds like your kid didn’t make the team
Nope. I learned my lesson from my older kid. It’s a money grab. You have to pay to play and even pay for your uniform. If you want to pay money so you can post on instagram your kid made it and how proud you are of “all his hard work” have it.
Or play for 91 because they all make it. Many of whom are coaches sons!
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Sounds like your kid didn’t make the team
Nope. I learned my lesson from my older kid. It’s a money grab. You have to pay to play and even pay for your uniform. If you want to pay money so you can post on instagram your kid made it and how proud you are of “all his hard work” have it.
Or play for 91 because they all make it. Many of whom are coaches sons!
There are only 4 kids on the team that are sons of coaches. But it is accurate that almost the entire team was selected to go. It’s a B level money grab and FOMO for many not to be included on IG.
4 coaches have sons on the team. That leaves 6 starting spots for the rest of the team, lol. Gotta love Daddy ball!
Rosters are out for the LILJ All 91 Games. Check and see if your kid made it.
And you felt the need to post this on every age groups thread? Tell us you’re bitter without telling us.
Btw the LILJ game is not something you “make”. You pay you play.
Sounds like your kid didn’t make the team
Nope. I learned my lesson from my older kid. It’s a money grab. You have to pay to play and even pay for your uniform. If you want to pay money so you can post on instagram your kid made it and how proud you are of “all his hard work” have it.
Or play for 91 because they all make it. Many of whom are coaches sons!
There are only 4 kids on the team that are sons of coaches. But it is accurate that almost the entire team was selected to go. It’s a B level money grab and FOMO for many not to be included on IG.
Exactly. LILJ is laughing all the way to the bank. Everyone wants a piece of the pie. Next up excelsior games, All American Select etc. The must goes on and on
4 coaches have sons on the team. That leaves 6 starting spots for the rest of the team, lol. Gotta love Daddy ball!
Most if not all teams have dad coaches. Who else is going to dedicate their personal time and not get paid? Also, what’s the difference if you start or not?
4 coaches have sons on the team. That leaves 6 starting spots for the rest of the team, lol. Gotta love Daddy ball!
Most if not all teams have dad coaches. Who else is going to dedicate their personal time and not get paid? Also, what’s the difference if you start or not?
This isn’t PAL, the coaches get paid.
4 coaches have sons on the team. That leaves 6 starting spots for the rest of the team, lol. Gotta love Daddy ball!
Most if not all teams have dad coaches. Who else is going to dedicate their personal time and not get paid? Also, what’s the difference if you start or not?
This isn’t PAL, the coaches get paid.
That’s how life moves……it’s not what you know but who you know. Same goes for talent or subpar talent. If your dad or mom is a coach you will be prioritized regardless of talent.
Express train is just getting ready to roll over everyone! Watch out and get out of the way!!
Express is painful at 29! Have maybe 3 players who will be on the team in 2 years. Enjoy your chuchu train now because it’s over by HS. CoachC already making moves to revamp this entire roster.
deep or not, arguably express was the second best team at the qualifier.
Express is painful at 29! Have maybe 3 players who will be on the team in 2 years. Enjoy your chuchu train now because it’s over by HS. CoachC already making moves to revamp this entire roster.
You actually believe someone from Express wrote that? Naive.
The 29 Express team is a sold A team .... I wouldn't put them in the same class as AA team .....
Ha... I'll take the bait. Express was barely in the top 8. Eclipse, 91, Igloo, Moose, Rebels, PT are all much better. They will struggle to get out pool play in DE.
As I said above, this team will be completely new in two years. Right now they are not very good. Coach won't allow that as they get closer to HS. Please enjoy the WS but stay humble my friends.
Ha... I'll take the bait. Express was barely in the top 8. Eclipse, 91, Igloo, Moose, Rebels, PT are all much better. They will struggle to get out pool play in DE.
what results from qualifier weekend are you looking at exactly? they had one loss, to the team that won. and they did better against that team than anyone else did.
Ha... I'll take the bait. Express was barely in the top 8. Eclipse, 91, Igloo, Moose, Rebels, PT are all much better. They will struggle to get out pool play in DE.
what results from qualifier weekend are you looking at exactly? they had one loss, to the team that won. and they did better against that team than anyone else did.
Don’t let facts get in the way.
FYI to Express hater, every team will look much different in 2 years.
By no means am I an Express hater, my boys play for Express. I just thought the Express is #2 at this age was an aggressive comment. It's better to be "somewhat" realistic on these forums as it provides more intrinsic value to the reader. Outlandish comments are just an annoyance.
By no means am I an Express hater, my boys play for Express. I just thought the Express is #2 at this age was an aggressive comment. It's better to be "somewhat" realistic on these forums as it provides more intrinsic value to the reader. Outlandish comments are just an annoyance.
You. Sound like a 91 parent.
By no means am I an Express hater, my boys play for Express. I just thought the Express is #2 at this age was an aggressive comment. It's better to be "somewhat" realistic on these forums as it provides more intrinsic value to the reader. Outlandish comments are just an annoyance.
I don’t think anyone said they were #2.
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
The reference is being made to that one individual who tried to make it a point that Express had a very successful weekend including losing to Eclipse by a closer margin than any other team. That makes no sense. Recon could’ve lost by 30 instead of 13 if Eclipse wanted to. They played all their players and held back production against some teams including an injured 91 team.
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
Still confused why did these two teams not play in the qualifier like every other team?
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
The reference is being made to that one individual who tried to make it a point that Express had a very successful weekend including losing to Eclipse by a closer margin than any other team. That makes no sense. Recon could’ve lost by 30 instead of 13 if Eclipse wanted to. They played all their players and held back production against some teams including an injured 91 team.
They did have a good weekend so you are barking up the wrong tree.
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
The reference is being made to that one individual who tried to make it a point that Express had a very successful weekend including losing to Eclipse by a closer margin than any other team. That makes no sense. Recon could’ve lost by 30 instead of 13 if Eclipse wanted to. They played all their players and held back production against some teams including an injured 91 team.
You must be a blast to have a beer with. Wow you are slow.
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
The reference is being made to that one individual who tried to make it a point that Express had a very successful weekend including losing to Eclipse by a closer margin than any other team. That makes no sense. Recon could’ve lost by 30 instead of 13 if Eclipse wanted to. They played all their players and held back production against some teams including an injured 91 team.
They did have a good weekend so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Express is ok lets not make them better than they are on this board.. sure they did fine in the Qualifier one weekend doesn't make a good team they have a long way to go. 91 was injured against eclipse? is that what the excuse is? Was the Igloo game too physical for them or did they have injuries coming into the weekend? It is amazing the stuff can come up with when they are looking for excuses
No one said they were #2 and no one calls them “The Express”, especially an Express parent.
The reference is being made to that one individual who tried to make it a point that Express had a very successful weekend including losing to Eclipse by a closer margin than any other team. That makes no sense. Recon could’ve lost by 30 instead of 13 if Eclipse wanted to. They played all their players and held back production against some teams including an injured 91 team.
They did have a good weekend so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Express is ok lets not make them better than they are on this board.. sure they did fine in the Qualifier one weekend doesn't make a good team they have a long way to go. 91 was injured against eclipse? is that what the excuse is? Was the Igloo game too physical for them or did they have injuries coming into the weekend? It is amazing the stuff can come up with when they are looking for excuses
The X attackman did not play at all on sunday due to injury. He’s their best regular player (not an add just for this tournament). Don’t think that closes a 6 goal gap though.
How many World Series teams that were formed for just this WS year will actually play together in regular tournaments this season
How many World Series teams that were formed for just this WS year will actually play together in regular tournaments this season
3
And which three players would those be?
I am going to protest that qualifier games are not included in the rankings.
I am going to protest that qualifier games are not included in the rankings.
Doesn’t make sense as they are not true 29 teams that play all year round together so what’s the protest about
I am going to protest that qualifier games are not included in the rankings.
Doesn’t make sense as they are not true 29 teams that play all year round together so what’s the protest about
isn't the qualifier and the world series the only tourneys with "true" 2029 teams?
I am going to protest that qualifier games are not included in the rankings.
Doesn’t make sense as they are not true 29 teams that play all year round together so what’s the protest about
isn't the qualifier and the world series the only tourneys with "true" 2029 teams?
Nope. Mix of 28 adn 29’s