I really don't think anyone can argue that flyers and friers pump out the most consistent amount of top quality players that go to top quality teams. I'm not talking about 1 or 2 players going here or there. There have been multiple players consistently from both teams going to top tier schools (acc,ivy etc). It is what it is. They provide each other with competition, along with other top lax schools they play like Delbarton and Yorktown.