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How many 15 year olds will be playing at the circuit this fall/winter? None. They have to be born after May 31, 2009 according to the website. Nope Bid Dawg. From the Circuit Website: “In the 2023-2024 Circuit (“season two”) all 2028 players who competed during season one will be grandfathered into the Circuit and we will continue with three waivers/exemptions at the 2028 age group.” So 3 per team. And beyond that, at the December Circuit event, rostering was WIDE OPEN. Known: 1. Multiple single holdbacks on almost every team (true at all Circuit events)....though I admit, many are probably summer birthdays and "not holdbacks acc to Circuit rules" 2. 1-2 double holdbacks on most teams (true at all Circuit events) 3. An unrostered holdback from a Hoco elite team in MD, played with Red Hots 2028. Though, again, he's a summer birthday so not a "Circuit Holdback" 4. An unrostered holdback from a *2027* Maryland team (that's right, a 2026 age class), played with UNRL National. Is the Circuit really policing any of this? Highly doubt it. They absolutely are not policing it. And if they are grandfathering them in they are just as bad as everyone else. Money must really talk. These dads are pushing hard!!! Never known Lou G to turn down money. Let's be real, no tourney organizer want to be known for "being the most compliant in age verification," they want to be known for having the biggest, oldest, and most dominant "dawgs" at their event. Who cares if the kid from Cali is 2+ years older than everyone else? Will look cool on social media, and kid will be a top recruit after attending our event. For example, the "MVP" from Trilogy Future Aces camp (2027-2030) was a 2027 double holdback from Virginia. Literally had a 16 year old out there running circles around 11 year olds at times. USL and others can say whatever they want about age-based lax but as long as this kind of thing is normalized, it doesn't matter..... What is wrong with you people? No kid is getting recruited at the Circuit. Any [Censored] dad telling you that is wrong! The Circuit is pay to play stop trying to make it more that what it actually is.
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Let’s be clear. The cutoff in NY and CT is September 1. Always has been. I grew up in NY and now live in CT. These Long Island posters pretending they don’t have holdbacks is a joke. Is it more rampant at younger ages us MD? Yes.
As a poster very accurately stated above, this sport is run by the private schools who by and large want the holdbacks.
The place you don’t see holdbacks? The Public schools buy even that is changing (in CT Darien has been doing it for years). Others are now joining the party by sending their kids to private school for 1 year just to re-enroll them back in the public school a year later - repeating the grade they just finished. If you have $50k and that’s how you want to spend it, go for it.
Fair or unfair? Who cares.
If you are a 28 parent, it doesn’t really matter anymore.
If you have young kids, it does matter up until 8/9th grade and I’m happy they are moving to age verification.
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Let’s be clear. The cutoff in NY and CT is September 1. Always has been. I grew up in NY and now live in CT. These Long Island posters pretending they don’t have holdbacks is a joke. Is it more rampant at younger ages us MD? Yes.
As a poster very accurately stated above, this sport is run by the private schools who by and large want the holdbacks.
The place you don’t see holdbacks? The Public schools buy even that is changing (in CT Darien has been doing it for years). Others are now joining the party by sending their kids to private school for 1 year just to re-enroll them back in the public school a year later - repeating the grade they just finished. If you have $50k and that’s how you want to spend it, go for it.
Fair or unfair? Who cares.
If you are a 28 parent, it doesn’t really matter anymore.
If you have young kids, it does matter up until 8/9th grade and I’m happy they are moving to age verification. Strongly agree with one exception. I would only argue that the holdbacks and pg years are driven by parents recognizing that colleges prefer kids a year older. The private schools are just providing what their customers want.
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How many 15 year olds will be playing at the circuit this fall/winter? None. They have to be born after May 31, 2009 according to the website. Nope Bid Dawg. From the Circuit Website: “In the 2023-2024 Circuit (“season two”) all 2028 players who competed during season one will be grandfathered into the Circuit and we will continue with three waivers/exemptions at the 2028 age group.” So 3 per team. And beyond that, at the December Circuit event, rostering was WIDE OPEN. Known: 1. Multiple single holdbacks on almost every team (true at all Circuit events)....though I admit, many are probably summer birthdays and "not holdbacks acc to Circuit rules" 2. 1-2 double holdbacks on most teams (true at all Circuit events) 3. An unrostered holdback from a Hoco elite team in MD, played with Red Hots 2028. Though, again, he's a summer birthday so not a "Circuit Holdback" 4. An unrostered holdback from a *2027* Maryland team (that's right, a 2026 age class), played with UNRL National. Is the Circuit really policing any of this? Highly doubt it. They absolutely are not policing it. And if they are grandfathering them in they are just as bad as everyone else. Money must really talk. These dads are pushing hard!!! Never known Lou G to turn down money. Let's be real, no tourney organizer want to be known for "being the most compliant in age verification," they want to be known for having the biggest, oldest, and most dominant "dawgs" at their event. Who cares if the kid from Cali is 2+ years older than everyone else? Will look cool on social media, and kid will be a top recruit after attending our event. For example, the "MVP" from Trilogy Future Aces camp (2027-2030) was a 2027 double holdback from Virginia. Literally had a 16 year old out there running circles around 11 year olds at times. USL and others can say whatever they want about age-based lax but as long as this kind of thing is normalized, it doesn't matter..... What is wrong with you people? No kid is getting recruited at the Circuit. Any [Censored] dad telling you that is wrong! The Circuit is pay to play stop trying to make it more that what it actually is. Let's get you to bed, Grandma. Nobody said anything about recruiting.
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How many 15 year olds will be playing at the circuit this fall/winter? None. They have to be born after May 31, 2009 according to the website. Nope Bid Dawg. From the Circuit Website: “In the 2023-2024 Circuit (“season two”) all 2028 players who competed during season one will be grandfathered into the Circuit and we will continue with three waivers/exemptions at the 2028 age group.” So 3 per team. And beyond that, at the December Circuit event, rostering was WIDE OPEN. Known: 1. Multiple single holdbacks on almost every team (true at all Circuit events)....though I admit, many are probably summer birthdays and "not holdbacks acc to Circuit rules" 2. 1-2 double holdbacks on most teams (true at all Circuit events) 3. An unrostered holdback from a Hoco elite team in MD, played with Red Hots 2028. Though, again, he's a summer birthday so not a "Circuit Holdback" 4. An unrostered holdback from a *2027* Maryland team (that's right, a 2026 age class), played with UNRL National. Is the Circuit really policing any of this? Highly doubt it. They absolutely are not policing it. And if they are grandfathering them in they are just as bad as everyone else. Money must really talk. These dads are pushing hard!!! Never known Lou G to turn down money. Let's be real, no tourney organizer want to be known for "being the most compliant in age verification," they want to be known for having the biggest, oldest, and most dominant "dawgs" at their event. Who cares if the kid from Cali is 2+ years older than everyone else? Will look cool on social media, and kid will be a top recruit after attending our event. For example, the "MVP" from Trilogy Future Aces camp (2027-2030) was a 2027 double holdback from Virginia. Literally had a 16 year old out there running circles around 11 year olds at times. USL and others can say whatever they want about age-based lax but as long as this kind of thing is normalized, it doesn't matter..... What is wrong with you people? No kid is getting recruited at the Circuit. Any [Censored] dad telling you that is wrong! The Circuit is pay to play stop trying to make it more that what it actually is. Let's get you to bed, Grandma. Nobody said anything about recruiting. What is your deal with complaining about 16 year olds going against 11 year old, It will make him tougher...
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How many 15 year olds will be playing at the circuit this fall/winter? None. They have to be born after May 31, 2009 according to the website. Nope Bid Dawg. From the Circuit Website: “In the 2023-2024 Circuit (“season two”) all 2028 players who competed during season one will be grandfathered into the Circuit and we will continue with three waivers/exemptions at the 2028 age group.” So 3 per team. And beyond that, at the December Circuit event, rostering was WIDE OPEN. Known: 1. Multiple single holdbacks on almost every team (true at all Circuit events)....though I admit, many are probably summer birthdays and "not holdbacks acc to Circuit rules" 2. 1-2 double holdbacks on most teams (true at all Circuit events) 3. An unrostered holdback from a Hoco elite team in MD, played with Red Hots 2028. Though, again, he's a summer birthday so not a "Circuit Holdback" 4. An unrostered holdback from a *2027* Maryland team (that's right, a 2026 age class), played with UNRL National. Is the Circuit really policing any of this? Highly doubt it. They absolutely are not policing it. And if they are grandfathering them in they are just as bad as everyone else. Money must really talk. These dads are pushing hard!!! Never known Lou G to turn down money. Let's be real, no tourney organizer want to be known for "being the most compliant in age verification," they want to be known for having the biggest, oldest, and most dominant "dawgs" at their event. Who cares if the kid from Cali is 2+ years older than everyone else? Will look cool on social media, and kid will be a top recruit after attending our event. For example, the "MVP" from Trilogy Future Aces camp (2027-2030) was a 2027 double holdback from Virginia. Literally had a 16 year old out there running circles around 11 year olds at times. USL and others can say whatever they want about age-based lax but as long as this kind of thing is normalized, it doesn't matter..... What is wrong with you people? No kid is getting recruited at the Circuit. Any [Censored] dad telling you that is wrong! The Circuit is pay to play stop trying to make it more that what it actually is. Let's get you to bed, Grandma. Nobody said anything about recruiting. What is your deal with complaining about 16 year olds going against 11 year old, It will make him tougher... Losing every rep to a kid 2 years older, 16 inches taller and 80lb heavier, with a mustache, will certainly motivate most 12 year olds to get it in gear. Where's the office for your sports psychology practice, I'll bring my kid after school today for more hot takes.
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How many 15 year olds will be playing at the circuit this fall/winter? None. They have to be born after May 31, 2009 according to the website. Nope Bid Dawg. From the Circuit Website: “In the 2023-2024 Circuit (“season two”) all 2028 players who competed during season one will be grandfathered into the Circuit and we will continue with three waivers/exemptions at the 2028 age group.” So 3 per team. And beyond that, at the December Circuit event, rostering was WIDE OPEN. Known: 1. Multiple single holdbacks on almost every team (true at all Circuit events)....though I admit, many are probably summer birthdays and "not holdbacks acc to Circuit rules" 2. 1-2 double holdbacks on most teams (true at all Circuit events) 3. An unrostered holdback from a Hoco elite team in MD, played with Red Hots 2028. Though, again, he's a summer birthday so not a "Circuit Holdback" 4. An unrostered holdback from a *2027* Maryland team (that's right, a 2026 age class), played with UNRL National. Is the Circuit really policing any of this? Highly doubt it. They absolutely are not policing it. And if they are grandfathering them in they are just as bad as everyone else. Money must really talk. These dads are pushing hard!!! Never known Lou G to turn down money. Let's be real, no tourney organizer want to be known for "being the most compliant in age verification," they want to be known for having the biggest, oldest, and most dominant "dawgs" at their event. Who cares if the kid from Cali is 2+ years older than everyone else? Will look cool on social media, and kid will be a top recruit after attending our event. For example, the "MVP" from Trilogy Future Aces camp (2027-2030) was a 2027 double holdback from Virginia. Literally had a 16 year old out there running circles around 11 year olds at times. USL and others can say whatever they want about age-based lax but as long as this kind of thing is normalized, it doesn't matter..... What is wrong with you people? No kid is getting recruited at the Circuit. Any [Censored] dad telling you that is wrong! The Circuit is pay to play stop trying to make it more that what it actually is. Let's get you to bed, Grandma. Nobody said anything about recruiting. What is your deal with complaining about 16 year olds going against 11 year old, It will make him tougher... Losing every rep to a kid 2 years older, 16 inches taller and 80lb heavier, with a mustache, will certainly motivate most 12 year olds to get it in gear. Where's the office for your sports psychology practice, I'll bring my kid after school today for more hot takes. you probably don't know this, but there's this new thing out there called sarcasm, which means that people say the opposite of what they mean, in order to be funny and to highlight their real point.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team?
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? As far as anyone knows and one of the two elite keepers in the country.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? As far as anyone knows and one of the two elite keepers in the country. 🤣
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? One of their parents pointed out to me the other day that only 6 kids remain from the team that won NLF in Lehigh a little over a year ago.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? Don’t believe so.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? In years past, they’ve dodged the system by calling themselves the Monuments or whatever when they lost. This fall, they’ve withdrawn from real tournaments (MD Invite) to play B team events (Aloha) instead… they might actually be headed for AAA next HoCo!!
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? As far as anyone knows and one of the two elite keepers in the country. Is this a new goalie that has joined or is this the True Dad talking?
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Hysterical. Love transparent comments from mom and dad.
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Zero chance they move down in HoCo. They will not consider it and will do whatever it takes to keep them competitive there. There should be a roster check and an age verification before every single game. Just like soccer, just like football.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? As far as anyone knows and one of the two elite keepers in the country. Is this a new goalie that has joined or is this the True Dad talking? Yeah, a clear reference to this clown dad who showed up and offended every kid and parent on the team, and every goalie in America other than the one in GA. Classic.
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Zero chance they move down in HoCo. They will not consider it and will do whatever it takes to keep them competitive there. There should be a roster check and an age verification before every single game. Just like soccer, just like football. You’re implying that Cabell Maddox would actually use older players… how dare you? Oh yeah, he’s done that before…
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Are any of the new circuit teams any good? Mojo, Express, FCA any knowledge?
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Are any of the new circuit teams any good? Mojo, Express, FCA any knowledge? Good at taking your money if you're gullible enough to think that playing for one of them is going to make some big difference in your kid's life.
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And you base this one some random comment on this board from an anonymous person and we are not to assume as fact that is was this goalie dad. Got it.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? In years past, they’ve dodged the system by calling themselves the Monuments or whatever when they lost. This fall, they’ve withdrawn from real tournaments (MD Invite) to play B team events (Aloha) instead… they might actually be headed for AAA next HoCo!! Aloha tournament is low B level. If they’re playing in this, who’s the thjnk they won’t opt for AAA? Clearly some real panic over at Madlax.
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We have our answer: The new MadLax branding effort is the the MadLax Supreme National Team (not a joke).
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And you base this one some random comment on this board from an anonymous person and we are not to assume as fact that is was this goalie dad. Got it. You’re right, maybe it wasn’t the dad and instead some totally unrelated person decided to single out a randomly chosen player as the absolute best at his position despite no evidence, defended that arbitrary position over multiple posts, also had intimate knowledge of the player’s prior and current teams, and just happened to pick someone whose father has a history of weird behavior like this. Both possibilities seem equally likely.
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We have our answer: The new MadLax branding effort is the the MadLax Supreme National Team (not a joke). Supremely Average. At Best. Man, this guy never ceases to amaze. How do these people continue to give him their hard earned money??!!
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And you base this one some random comment on this board from an anonymous person and we are not to assume as fact that is was this goalie dad. Got it. You’re right, maybe it wasn’t the dad and instead some totally unrelated person decided to single out a randomly chosen player as the absolute best at his position despite no evidence, defended that arbitrary position over multiple posts, also had intimate knowledge of the player’s prior and current teams, and just happened to pick someone whose father has a history of weird behavior like this. Both possibilities seem equally likely. Thanks Perry Mason, You won the case for best .....
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? One of their parents pointed out to me the other day that only 6 kids remain from the team that won NLF in Lehigh a little over a year ago. Why did so many players leave?
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? In years past, they’ve dodged the system by calling themselves the Monuments or whatever when they lost. This fall, they’ve withdrawn from real tournaments (MD Invite) to play B team events (Aloha) instead… they might actually be headed for AAA next HoCo!! Aloha tournament is low B level. If they’re playing in this, who’s the thjnk they won’t opt for AAA? Clearly some real panic over at Madlax. Playing in Aloha is basically saying..I give up on competitive lacrosse.
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Madlax still have that 15 yr old on the team? In years past, they’ve dodged the system by calling themselves the Monuments or whatever when they lost. This fall, they’ve withdrawn from real tournaments (MD Invite) to play B team events (Aloha) instead… they might actually be headed for AAA next HoCo!! Aloha tournament is low B level. If they’re playing in this, who’s the thjnk they won’t opt for AAA? Clearly some real panic over at Madlax. Playing in Aloha is basically saying..I give up on competitive lacrosse. Yep. And they were ironginally playing the MD Inv, where they’d see some Elite teams. This is some serious ducking.
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Cabel and Millon have both managed to assemble large cult followings of from grown men and women who are obsessed with their every move so much so they run to a message board to post INCESSANTLY.
I don’t have significant experience with either up close but talk about living in peoples heads rent free.
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Cabel and Millon have both managed to assemble large cult followings of from grown men and women who are obsessed with their every move so much so they run to a message board to post INCESSANTLY.
I don’t have significant experience with either up close but talk about living in peoples heads rent free. excellent point. the worst thing for a travel program is to be unknown and irrelevant. thanks to the zillions of people who dislike those two, they will never have to worry about that happening!
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Cabel and Millon have both managed to assemble large cult followings of from grown men and women who are obsessed with their every move so much so they run to a message board to post INCESSANTLY.
I don’t have significant experience with either up close but talk about living in peoples heads rent free. Cabell is definitely a renter, since his entire team got repossessed by Next Level and DCE.
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Cabel and Millon have both managed to assemble large cult followings of from grown men and women who are obsessed with their every move so much so they run to a message board to post INCESSANTLY.
I don’t have significant experience with either up close but talk about living in peoples heads rent free. Cabell is definitely a renter, since his entire team got repossessed by Next Level and DCE. Touché !!!! And yet, somehow, he is telling newcomers that those kids who left on their own accord got cut from the team. I mean, the guy is lower than low on The D Bag meter
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Cabel and Millon have both managed to assemble large cult followings of from grown men and women who are obsessed with their every move so much so they run to a message board to post INCESSANTLY.
I don’t have significant experience with either up close but talk about living in peoples heads rent free. Cabell is definitely a renter, since his entire team got repossessed by Next Level and DCE. Touché !!!! And yet, somehow, he is telling newcomers that those kids who left on their own accord got cut from the team. I mean, the guy is lower than low on The D Bag meter Even though it is true for your son, he didnt have what it takes to make an elite team like MadLax. Now calm down and be happy in your ML quarterzip you bought hoping.
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Where is DC Express, Next Level and FCA playing this fall?
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Do you mean what tournaments or practices?
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Remember to look for DCE and not BLC for 2028 going forward.
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![](/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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Where is DC Express, Next Level and FCA playing this fall? Tournaments? Anyone know?
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![](/images/icons/default/book.gif) Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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Remember to look for DCE and not BLC for 2028 going forward. Formerly known as Madlax
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