BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2018 Fall 2014/Summer 2015

Probably not for most kids and their parents. But if they are having fun, it doesn't matter. Many decide to specialize in lacrosse only to miss out of the joys of playing other sports for their high schools for maybe the chance to play D1 lacrosse or gain admission to maybe a better school academically that would not happen without lacrosse. In my opinion showcasing 14 year olds to college coaches is crazy. These coaches are to blame for the rise of these showcases, elite tournament teams, etc.

How would you rank these team tournaments/showcases? 1 to 7 appreciate feedback from anyone who has attended or knows anything about them.

fl$ in 3D, MD
Legacy, MA
MVP, NJ
Autumn Classic, MD
Philly Showcase, PA
Fall Classic, LI
Elite Showcase, LI

What criteria?

recruiting value

fl$ in 3D, MD,
Legacy, MA
MVP, NJ
Autumn Classic, MD
Philly Showcase, PA
Fall Classic, LI
Elite Showcase, LI

Philly #1
fl$, Legacy, Autumn (NSCLA event), Fall Classic, all very good
the rest

LI Outlaws 2018 Black Fall Schedule
Nov 2nd Legacy
Nov 8th 9th Adrenaline
Nov 15th fl$ Nov 16th Fall Autumn Classic
Nov 23 Philly

That's a great schedule
What's Igloo, jesters and team Li Schedule like??? - Nothing like this, Why would kid's play for them- Great Job Outlaws - Might not be the best team , but this is a Super Fall schedule

Might not be ?? Lol.

Good luck with your 32 players.

Jesters 2018 Black
Nov 2 - Hofstra Blue and Gold
Nov 9 - Rutgers Showcase
Nov 15 - UPLAX
Nov 16 - fl$ in 3D

2018 terps or team 1 or whatever we call them now

scrimmages
this weekend at Randal island
next weekend 91 extreme
Nov 2 in MD for scrimmages
nov 8 big four
nov 9 adrenaline
nov 22 Philly individual day
nov 23 tourny in MD with crabs

Mixed in are prospect days for individuals at various schools

Big recruiting Fall for all the boys in 2018, good luck to each kid on whatever team. May your kid have a great day in front of the college coach of his first choice...

November 2 is not for scrimmages - they are playing in the Terrapin Classic.

Igloo? They have a 2018 team?

Don't worry about Outlaws, with all due respect, talent level is very high vs last year. Many new players on team, very strong additions at all positions. Only 22 at any one tournament. Know the facts before you speak. Roster is a non-issue. It's not about winning individual games anymore, it's about exposure. In this category, OL's is at the very top. Which club does your son play for? How much support have they given him for individual showcases like Legacy, FPS, JR, and Showtime? Unless he's a top 6-8 kid on Express, Extreme or fl$. Then the answer for the most part is ZERO.

In all seriousness did Igloo and Legacy field teams in this age group. If yes, who are the coaches? How many teams for each? Legacy was a disaster last year and wonder how many players returned to that program.

How does the Hofsta tournament on 11/2 stack up?

Hofstra is a good local showcase at the varsity level. Not elite , but we'll run.

That will be true for outlaws as well. They aren't going to push 32 kids for JR. By the way how are they deciding who are they 22 gong to the better tournaments.?

Exactly. Wasn't a problem last year either, until kids didn't get asked to certain tournaments. Then it blows up!

Everyone knows the deal going in! If your son is not a top player he will get less of the top tourns, was explained very clearly by Club.
The OL's are not the first Club to use this model with great success. Don't worry about Outlaws, worry about your club adding in 10 kids by June and showing up to a major event with 32 on the side lines. Again, not about winning games this year, about exposure. Go to 2020 thread and argue about who's going to win Halloween Havoc.

I guess your son wasn't invited to the tournaments you thought he should have been invited to? So it blew up for you. Seems like the 2017 team survived pretty well. Stronger and better than ever this year, go figure?

Might not be ?? Lol.

Good luck with your 32 players. [/quote]

Don't worry about Outlaws, with all due respect, talent level is very high vs last year. Many new players on team, very strong additions at all positions. Only 22 at any one tournament. Know the facts before you speak. Roster is a non-issue. It's not about winning individual games anymore, it's about exposure. In this category, OL's is at the very top. Which club does your son play for? How much support have they given him for individual showcases like Legacy, FPS, JR, and Showtime? Unless he's a top 6-8 kid on Express, Extreme or fl$. Then the answer for the most part is ZERO. [/quote]

That will be true for outlaws as well. They aren't going to push 32 kids for JR. By the way how are they deciding who are they 22 gong to the better tournaments.? [/quote]

Exactly. Wasn't a problem last year either, until kids didn't get asked to certain tournaments. Then it blows up! [/quote]

Everyone knows the deal going in! If your son is not a top player he will get less of the top tourns, was explained very clearly by Club.
The OL's are not the first Club to use this model with great success. Don't worry about Outlaws, worry about your club adding in 10 kids by June and showing up to a major event with 32 on the side lines. Again, not about winning games this year, about exposure. Go to 2020 thread and argue about who's going to win Halloween Havoc. [/quote]

We aren't arguing about winning. You are the one who slammed other clubs saying you won't get to the top individual show cases with them while patting yourself and the outlaws on the back . with 32 kids on the team the outlaws have the exact same individual show case issue and we are pointing out what apparently wasn't obvious to you. Btw if you want my kids Halloween Havoc championship shirt stop by I'm sure he will give it to you if you ask nicely

Express westchester beat up express a this weekend. Look out!

the Terps ?

Sorry to damper your story, but they didn't play the 2018 a team. less than 1/3 of 2018 was there and rest were b team and 2019. Yet westchester is very good team.

Westchester 9 to 7 vs Terps , both teams missing a few for recruiting. Great game . These teams play a lot against one another , makes both groups better. Terps and north have great relationship which is based on getting both teams better . Depends on day on who wins , was not a beat up. 2groups that play against each other a lot probably at least 10 times.

Half the terp team was at Penn state...

Don't worry about Outlaws, with all due respect, talent level is very high vs last year. Many new players on team, very strong additions at all positions. Only 22 at any one tournament. Know the facts before you speak. Roster is a non-issue. It's not about winning individual games anymore, it's about exposure. In this category, OL's is at the very top. Which club does your son play for? How much support have they given him for individual showcases like Legacy, FPS, JR, and Showtime? Unless he's a top 6-8 kid on Express, Extreme or fl$. Then the answer for the most part is ZERO. [/quote]

That will be true for outlaws as well. They aren't going to push 32 kids for JR. By the way how are they deciding who are they 22 gong to the better tournaments.? [/quote]

Exactly. Wasn't a problem last year either, until kids didn't get asked to certain tournaments. Then it blows up! [/quote]

Everyone knows the deal going in! If your son is not a top player he will get less of the top tourns, was explained very clearly by Club.
The OL's are not the first Club to use this model with great success. Don't worry about Outlaws, worry about your club adding in 10 kids by June and showing up to a major event with 32 on the side lines. Again, not about winning games this year, about exposure. Go to 2020 thread and argue about who's going to win Halloween Havoc. [/quote]

We aren't arguing about winning. You are the one who slammed other clubs saying you won't get to the top individual show cases with them while patting yourself and the outlaws on the back . with 32 kids on the team the outlaws have the exact same individual show case issue and we are pointing out what apparently wasn't obvious to you. Btw if you want my kids Halloween Havoc championship shirt stop by I'm sure he will give it to you if you ask nicely [/quote]

Bragging about your kid's fall tournament championship tee-shirt? "We have a winner for the biggest loser of the day! What do we have for him, Johnny? It is an all expense paid trip to Loser Town"

9-7 is beating someone up??

Funny how things change in a week. When the 2018 team "beat up" on half of the 2017 in a meaningless scrimmage they pumped their chests. But now they get beat by the Express North team and the excuses come flying. Hilarious! They are all part of the same organization. People will be missing games and tournaments from now on because of showcases, prospect days etc. You rarely will have a full team at anything. You will figure out soon enough it is not about wins and losses - nobody cares. It is about getting your kid better and hopefully into a college you can be proud of to play lacrosse. That is the end game...

[quote=Anonymous]Half the terp team was at Penn state... [/quote

Why? Don't need lax to get into pen state. Just a pulse.

ok here come the excuses. You lost stop crying.

It wasn't that close if you were there

The irony of someone making fun of PSU academics by spelling Penn incorrectly...

Don't worry about Outlaws, with all due respect, talent level is very high vs last year. Many new players on team, very strong additions at all positions. Only 22 at any one tournament. Know the facts before you speak. Roster is a non-issue. It's not about winning individual games anymore, it's about exposure. In this category, OL's is at the very top. Which club does your son play for? How much support have they given him for individual showcases like Legacy, FPS, JR, and Showtime? Unless he's a top 6-8 kid on Express, Extreme or fl$. Then the answer for the most part is ZERO. [/quote]

That will be true for outlaws as well. They aren't going to push 32 kids for JR. By the way how are they deciding who are they 22 gong to the better tournaments.? [/quote]

Exactly. Wasn't a problem last year either, until kids didn't get asked to certain tournaments. Then it blows up! [/quote]

Everyone knows the deal going in! If your son is not a top player he will get less of the top tourns, was explained very clearly by Club.
The OL's are not the first Club to use this model with great success. Don't worry about Outlaws, worry about your club adding in 10 kids by June and showing up to a major event with 32 on the side lines. Again, not about winning games this year, about exposure. Go to 2020 thread and argue about who's going to win Halloween Havoc. [/quote]

We aren't arguing about winning. You are the one who slammed other clubs saying you won't get to the top individual show cases with them while patting yourself and the outlaws on the back . with 32 kids on the team the outlaws have the exact same individual show case issue and we are pointing out what apparently wasn't obvious to you. Btw if you want my kids Halloween Havoc championship shirt stop by I'm sure he will give it to you if you ask nicely [/quote]


If you read the post someone made a snide remark about OL's not being best team at 2018. No one said they were, they just said they're going to some great events in the fall. The point is, if you're not with Exp, extreme, fl$ or OL you're son will have a difficult time getting invites to the top Showcases. The OL are doing a great job getting kids exposure. Sorry things are not working out for you at Express or 91, sounds like your son didn't get the invites you were hoping for. As far as the Tee Shirt, try putting it with clothes that don't fit and donate it to the less fortunate. Or is that beneath you?

It wasn't half the team, only 4 players. The most impressive was the kid who plays D. The rest were nothing special.

Don't worry about Outlaws, with all due respect, talent level is very high vs last year. Many new players on team, very strong additions at all positions. Only 22 at any one tournament. Know the facts before you speak. Roster is a non-issue. It's not about winning individual games anymore, it's about exposure. In this category, OL's is at the very top. Which club does your son play for? How much support have they given him for individual showcases like Legacy, FPS, JR, and Showtime? Unless he's a top 6-8 kid on Express, Extreme or fl$. Then the answer for the most part is ZERO. [/quote]

That will be true for outlaws as well. They aren't going to push 32 kids for JR. By the way how are they deciding who are they 22 gong to the better tournaments.? [/quote]

Exactly. Wasn't a problem last year either, until kids didn't get asked to certain tournaments. Then it blows up! [/quote]

Everyone knows the deal going in! If your son is not a top player he will get less of the top tourns, was explained very clearly by Club.
The OL's are not the first Club to use this model with great success. Don't worry about Outlaws, worry about your club adding in 10 kids by June and showing up to a major event with 32 on the side lines. Again, not about winning games this year, about exposure. Go to 2020 thread and argue about who's going to win Halloween Havoc. [/quote]

We aren't arguing about winning. You are the one who slammed other clubs saying you won't get to the top individual show cases with them while patting yourself and the outlaws on the back . with 32 kids on the team the outlaws have the exact same individual show case issue and we are pointing out what apparently wasn't obvious to you. Btw if you want my kids Halloween Havoc championship shirt stop by I'm sure he will give it to you if you ask nicely [/quote]

Bragging about your kid's fall tournament championship tee-shirt? "We have a winner for the biggest loser of the day! What do we have for him, Johnny? It is an all expense paid trip to Loser Town" [/quote]

I read that different. I took that as a sarcastic response to the post above it about going to the 2022 thread and bragging about winning HH

I'm an alumni. Since when our their too n in pen?

Kid not on Express, but no need for that kind of talk. My son was there and I thought the LI kids did pretty good.

Penn State is a top 50 school, ranked above other big lax destinations schools like Maryland,Syracuse,Colorado,Loyola,Rutgers,StonyBrook,Ohio State,Drexel,Towson,U Mass,etc
This is a school rich in tradition and offers a true college experience. They are overcoming a difficult time and have a program on the rise both athletically and academically. I would be proud to send my son there. Went on a visit and was very impressed with the coaching staff, academic support network and facilities. Plus it's an under 5 hour drive. Hoping for an offer!

The second half of this post should be pinned to every forum - THAT is the goal