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Express definitely challenges themselves, venom doesn’t. I think Surge now Tritons, played a more difficult schedule last year

Good morning! Looking for some suggestions/advice on showcases. Saw it on the old thread. As we all having kids entering 10th grade next year, I was always told that's the time to enter some showcases/camps, etc.
1) are there any that you'd recommend?
2) are they worth it?
3) do specific colleges offer camps for kids who may be interested in attending their schools?
4) is it necessary?

Players weren’t the problem last year. They had a great Fall season then many of the starters including the faceoff guy got hurt. Couldn’t win a faceoff the rest of the year, impossible to win when you can’t get possession and on top of that you have a short bench.

Agreed, 91 worries too much about rankings of their top teams so they pick and choose tournaments where they can influence their schedule more. Coach C will put Express up against anyone at anytime, he may hurt your wallet while doing that though.

Speak to the coaches, directors, or owners of your son’s club team, as well as his high school coach. The advice should be better than you will receive here.

Let me say this in my opinion and experience. Do not go at this age. Don’t justify it by saying “hey just want me son to get experience at a showcase”… just not worth until the end of 10th grade.

Not sure what you guys are talking about. Venom went to NAL, NLF, and Tri-star - the 3 best tourneys. Not a 91 fan, but let's be fair.

that's a great point. i've read so much on here it's tough to tell if ppl have an axe to grind or if the advice is legit. thanks.

end of 10th grade? summer of junior year?

They went to all the same tournaments, so this statement is just a bad attempt to troll.

They went to all the same tournaments, so this statement is just a bad attempt to troll.

Yes except Venom played weak teams in first round of NAL and NLF. Just look at this weekend NLF 17-0 great game beat up on D Level team.

If you look at strength of schedule, venom is way below express

S2S dad here, we are better than both venom and express

Then they took down express north who has wins over LE and the Hawks.

Take a look at the 27 board. Pertains to what is being talked about here.

“ Very simple . 91 Machine controls.the NLF, should be renamed ninety one lacrosse federation....so they put themselves up against weak competition. They also pulled out of the NAL last week because they can't control anything there and they went 0-3 last fall . Sad but true”

91 curates their schedule at every level to get W’s and help recruiting and rankings. Heck the guy running the USCL rankings worked for 91!

Well you do have more holdbacks so you win at that.

1st get into the top 15 US club rankings

You’re not a S2S dad. You’re a drama queen who wants to stir the pot.

100% not a S2S dad. I've got a couple of friends with kids on the team. They know it was an easy fall schedule, hoping the new D coach (who is awesome, supposedly) can help elevate this team. Parents seem happy with the new kids they picked up, especially the goalie.

S2S Mom?

Thanks S2S dad

And all on those teams that have complained about it in the past will now remain quiet as long as they are winning.
Unless they take their sons spot!

So if a parent chooses to holdback their child, which is their business and nobody else’s to mainly to increase opportunities for lacrosse and recruitment for their son. What does that have to do with the clubs???? Are they supposed to say no…we don’t want you because you’re a reclass? C’mon get over it. And I understand the frustration if this impacts a roster and playing time, and seems unfair, but it is not cheating, just part of the travel lacrosse. Just go to another club and be happy. Because at the end of the day it’s about your son and putting him the best situation to succeed. I say this because if holdbacks bother you…wait…if your son plays in college - the transfer portal is far more frustrating. Imagine working your @ChillLaxin off and it’s your time and bang incomes a transfer senior year.

Name one team who hasn’t complained about older kids.

Thanks Holdback Dad!

Imagine not starting in High School because of a reclass? It’s all fine unless it happens to your kid. If it’s wrong it’s wrong across the board. You don’t need to act like it’s not a big deal just because it doesn’t affect your kid, plus there are fewer and fewer teams without reclasses. Use your voice and complain to the clubs and to the high school teams and USLacrosse and anyone who will listen, that is how you will affect change.

Everyone complains, rightly so. Calling out the ones that now enjoy the benefits of having holdbacks on their team now.

Very good point about the transfer portal. I think what people are talking about are some clubs are pushing some kids to reclass. Express seems to do this more than 91 but 91 does it as well.

More specifically goalie mom

Thanks so much for your sermon. You really taught a lesson to the parents who actually care about rankings. Now can you address the parents who care about reclasses for the right reason? That reason being recruitment. You mentioned working your @ChillLaxin off and dealing with transfers. How about working your @ChillLaxin off and dealing with kids whose parents held them back for one reason and one reason only. You can’t admit frustration with transfers and dismiss the anti holdback parent. It’s quite hypocritical. So don’t tell us to get over it because apparently you aren’t.

The holdback crusader strikes again. Move on, everyone else has. How many of the posts above are from the same manic, lax obsessed freak?

Holdback apologists are all the same. They find excuses in every corner they can.

As far as transfer portal. It is another reason that college sports is becoming another arena that has lost its way. Even tho, Lacrosse with graduates for hire is nothing when stacked against football and BB .

Amateur athletes is basically almost extinct now.

Oh it’s you again. The dude who thinks he is having a conversation with one person, but is actually talking to many.

My favorite was the good, hardworking family excuse earlier in the thread. Yeah, because that makes it ok to play your kid down.

She’s a lunatic

Recap: fool people now holdback their kids from starting Kindergarten or have them repeat 8th grade. Your kid is one of them and to the kid he now starts over on travel or H.S. Team you say go find another team. To the kid he takes a college scholarship from you say go find another school. Your kid then gets to college and a double reclass transfers in and takes your kids starting spot, and you have a problem with the transfer portal? Laughable! You are what’s wrong with youth sports and a microcosm of what’s wrong in the world today.

Morning moms and dads! I read with such enthusiasm and humor about the reclass thing. I have 5 kids (3 boys/2 girls). one of my boys was born late October, and prior to kindergarten, we held him back in school and we're glad we did (emotionally/socially)-side note-he does not play lacrosse.

My issue is with parents (someone mentioned the express family on an earlier thread) holding their kid back NOW and having him REPEAT 8th grade. Why? Is notoriety in lacrosse THAT important to you? Those are the parents that I just don't understand. It's ok if your kid isn't a star on age on his team but for some parents, that's just not OK. So we'll have our kid waste an entire academic year all in the name of HOPING that he kills it against kids a year younger than him. Good for you mom and dad-i'm sure you're sleeping well at night. I pray that it's all worth it and no major injuries come his way...all in the name of putting that shiny college sticker on the back of your truck. Pathetic.