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Recruiting, scholarships and reclassing is the 91 way.

Same with express
Same with any team for good players
Maybe minus the reclass

The best players on venom/express don’t have to pay.
If you pay you know your role

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Except it's not....Surge is a stand-alone team and have previously played competitive games against Frost and Dune Dawgs (I bet GSB White will be in that conversation as well). "Express Orange" is about as real as the Easter Bunny. It's only 7 players that are probably on that team, and the rest are OG Chucks. 2 former Lumberjax, 1 Venom, and 1 Adrenaline player (all AA teams), were on the field (verified blatantly by their helmets). This is what happens when all you care about is taking tuition money. If you can't field a roster of at least 15 kids, call up another club in a similar boat and work something out. But that will never happen because integrity is long absent from the club team scene.

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Except it's not....Surge is a stand-alone team and have previously played competitive games against Frost and Dune Dawgs (I bet GSB White will be in that conversation as well). "Express Orange" is about as real as the Easter Bunny. It's only 7 players that are probably on that team, and the rest are OG Chucks. 2 former Lumberjax, 1 Venom, and 1 Adrenaline player (all AA teams), were on the field (verified blatantly by their helmets). This is what happens when all you care about is taking tuition money. If you can't field a roster of at least 15 kids, call up another club in a similar boat and work something out. But that will never happen because integrity is long absent from the club team scene.



Surge has had Venom players play in the past including goalie fogo and defense
They have additional helmets to hide this fact

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Except it's not....Surge is a stand-alone team and have previously played competitive games against Frost and Dune Dawgs (I bet GSB White will be in that conversation as well). "Express Orange" is about as real as the Easter Bunny. It's only 7 players that are probably on that team, and the rest are OG Chucks. 2 former Lumberjax, 1 Venom, and 1 Adrenaline player (all AA teams), were on the field (verified blatantly by their helmets). This is what happens when all you care about is taking tuition money. If you can't field a roster of at least 15 kids, call up another club in a similar boat and work something out. But that will never happen because integrity is long absent from the club team scene.



Surge has had Venom players play in the past including goalie fogo and defense
They have additional helmets to hide this fact

Nobody is hiding anything- they want to wear the same helmets as their teammates. Everyone knows most of the kids you can’t hide players on the field

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I’m sorry I stand corrected
I thought that a stand alone team meant that they only play in tournaments with the kids who pay tuition, practice and are not on other higher level teams

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The fact that this was brought up is laughable. It was one tournament where surge had no goalie at a tournament in november at stony brook, so the venom goalie played. the fogo played in a different tournament last fall at farmingdale because they had no fogo. I don't remember any defensemen playing for surge.

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Very pathetic attempt by someone to bring shade on Surge, i don't think they need your negativity.

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

You might want to walk that back. They absolutely used venom kids a couple of years ago. Goalie and fogo same game. They weren’t trying to hide it. But it was a couple of years ago so who cares.

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There are teams on Long Island, that are advertising themselves as valid teams, but really only have around 10 players. They then reach out to "hired hands" essentially, and show up and play in tournaments with MERC players. This is true for multiple teams including Express Orange (proven this weekend), and from what everyone is hearing, Legacy East and GSB Blue. If you play these teams, you are only playing around 10 players that are actually on these teams. The remainder are either players from other teams/ages in their club, players from the higher class team for their age, or straight ringers.

Exactly right! The only reason for any of this is the Directors can’t say no to the tuition from those 10 families. If you don’t have enough players to make a team you should cut those players so they can go play somewhere else on a real team. It was a con job.

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There are teams on Long Island, that are advertising themselves as valid teams, but really only have around 10 players. They then reach out to "hired hands" essentially, and show up and play in tournaments with MERC players. This is true for multiple teams including Express Orange (proven this weekend), and from what everyone is hearing, Legacy East and GSB Blue. If you play these teams, you are only playing around 10 players that are actually on these teams. The remainder are either players from other teams/ages in their club, players from the higher class team for their age, or straight ringers.

Exactly right! The only reason for any of this is the Directors can’t say no to the tuition from those 10 families. If you don’t have enough players to make a team you should cut those players so they can go play somewhere else on a real team. It was a con job.
But then those players could go play for another team… that’s contrary to what a lot of these club directors are about— tuition, and being able to beat the other competing clubs in the area. If they were truly about developing lacrosse players, they’d do exactly what you suggest— cut the players who will not play so they can go learn and develop elsewhere.

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LIke I said, my son has been on the team a few years, I don't know all of the new kids. There might've been some who just joined who didn't play, but i don't know. They are going with a black team and orange team, although it seems that some of the lower AA players will be playing with orange to fill out that team. If not, I'm not sure what the plan is.

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

You might want to walk that back. They absolutely used venom kids a couple of years ago. Goalie and fogo same game. They weren’t trying to hide it. But it was a couple of years ago so who cares.

Son if jailbird has played w surge as well. Defense.

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Legacy missing players today? Or took step back in Offseason?

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Surge has bigger issues! The head coach is verbally abusive. All he does is tell the kids what they did wrong and how bad they are. Completely favors all the Hills kids. Tells the kids they’re the worst lacrosse players and they’re losers. Coach tells the kids “ you’re all losers, you must like losing. I’m gonna call you losers”. How 91 stills lets this guy coach children is amazing! The worst part is the parents complain about him but continue to pay to be there. Very sad.

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

You might want to walk that back. They absolutely used venom kids a couple of years ago. Goalie and fogo same game. They weren’t trying to hide it. But it was a couple of years ago so who cares.

Son if jailbird has played w surge as well. Defense.
What?

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Legacy missing players today? Or took step back in Offseason?

Be the best just better team better coaching

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Legacy missing players today? Or took step back in Offseason?

More like BTB improved again. They have the best coach i have seen in club.

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He is a great coach. But he screwed over a bunch of kids this past tryouts. I heard!

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge
Where Rush BTB is not beating Rush

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anyone have a report from Capelli in Jersey? How'd the LI teams do?

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I guess you put Rush with Surge since they just tied .......

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge
Where Rush BTB is not beating Rush

50/50

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Venom
Big gap
Express
Gap
BTB
Legacy
Rush
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Fixed it

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BTB beat a good team by 1. They beat 2 B teams and a town team without its top players. Let’s see them in a true AA bracket.

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Venom
Big gap
Express
Gap
BTB
Legacy
Rush
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Fixed it
Venom parents are fool. Wait so if Express beat you will you quit on Spring season.

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

BTB was 2-7 vs these teams last season.

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

BTB was 2-7 vs these teams last season.
Key word last season

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Venom
Big gap
Express
Gap
BTB
Legacy
Rush
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Fixed it
Venom parents are fool. Wait so if Express beat you will you quit on Spring season.

We have a stage 5 clinger who’s very upset for some reason.

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

BTB was 2-7 vs these teams last season.
Key word last season

It was a B tourney relax.

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New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

BTB was 2-7 vs these teams last season.
Key word last season

It was a B tourney relax.
Columbus Day could have been Called a b tourney calm down it’s fall ball

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BTB beat a good team by 1. They beat 2 B teams and a town team without its top players. Let’s see them in a true AA bracket.

I predict they will do as well as Legacy, s2s, Rush and rebels do in a AA bracket

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

You might want to walk that back. They absolutely used venom kids a couple of years ago. Goalie and fogo same game. They weren’t trying to hide it. But it was a couple of years ago so who cares.

Son if jailbird has played w surge as well. Defense.
What?

No need for nonsense like the above comment. You are what's wrong with the world today. I know the man personally he is more of a man then you will ever be.

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Yes but unfortunately they will go nowhere with that coaching staff.

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Yes but unfortunately they will go nowhere with that coaching staff.

Who?

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Leave Surge alone, they are trying to make kids better. And for the record, they have never used Venom players.

You might want to walk that back. They absolutely used venom kids a couple of years ago. Goalie and fogo same game. They weren’t trying to hide it. But it was a couple of years ago so who cares.

Son if jailbird has played w surge as well. Defense.
What?

No need for nonsense like the above comment. You are what's wrong with the world today. I know the man personally he is more of a man then you will ever be.


The word "then" means "at that time" and is used to talk about when things will happen. The word "than" is used to compare things.

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Yes but unfortunately they will go nowhere with that coaching staff.

Who?

I assuming they talking about Surge

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[quote=Anonymous]New Rankings for Long Island:
Venom
Express
BTB
Legacy
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Venom
Big gap
Express
Gap
BTB
Legacy
Rush
S2S
Rebels
Igloo/Surge

Fixed it
Venom parents are fool. Wait so if Express beat you will you quit on Spring season.[/quote

If anything the gap got smaller! They only added one kid who will compete with the starters. The rest will come off the bench.

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Really cool that the Chucks "B" team is playing in the wrong bracket again next weekend.

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