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JJCR is absolutely terrible, kids playing positions that have no business playing, goalie is a very good up and comer, decent fogo few good middies, attack are nonexistent --Rye is going to Roll

And yet, ran well with Manhasset, went down to the end with Yorktow, beat Pelham and did it with nearly all the same players that beat Rye in '22.
What's your real beef?

I fully agree that any fan, be it parent, student, whomever. The second there is anything said in the direction of officials you get one warning and then you're gone. A second ejection and you are gone for the season.
The problem with this is getting staff at the games to actually do this. I don't see any scenario - short of having a police presence at every game - where someone from the schools staff will be telling people to leave.

You're 100% correct on the staffing issue at games. Unfortunately, they are most likely teacher aide's or lunch/hall monitors that are not prepared to deal with rude/obnoxious adults.

Yes, because who would want to do that? You’d have to pay a lot more than the $50 or so staff get for the game. Even then, who wants to deal with it?

School administrators need to step up and do it themselves or pay for police/security to do it.

Does anyone here really know the powers that officials have? This is a actually a serious question. I have thought for a couple of years now to get into officiating bc I see the way they are treated and I feel some of the officials are old and slow. BTW this is not an invitation to insult, yell and berate. They are doing an amazing service for our boys and girls. I am solely making an observation bc many officials are old and some of the hs athletes are future d1 stars so mistakes will be made bc they cant keep up. Mistakes will also be made bc they are human and deserve respect for the little money they earn and the service they provide. I was thinking about doing it bc l I am under 50 and can still run :-) and I love youth sports (3 kids who played a variety of sports and all played or play at some level in college). Yes I had my kids young. Getting back to my original question - CAN officials stop games, kick parents out, issues yellow or red cards for the conduct of parents?

With the exception of the with Manhasset game, you make good points with your games against Y and Pelham.

I was at that game (Manhasset) and the game was essentially over in the first Q (3-0), since the score was 8-3 beginning fourth Q. JJ's goalie kept them in the game, the kid was playing like a senior!

Rye only allowed JJ to score two goals through three Qs, this game was over in the first Q.

Has there been a game this year that JJ battled from behind, took the lead and win a game?

Some observations

A- Down to Scarsdale and Mamo. Scarsdale is really good but I expected them to be ahead of where they are right now. It's hard to win on the island but the loss to Massapequa was surprising to me. Mamo is trending in the right direction. The comeback win over LI power Wantagh was noteworthy. North Rockland is the third-best team but they would need a stellar performance from their goalie to take down one of the top two teams.

B- Yorktown is the clear favorite at this point. Their goalie has played very well so far, however, he is a freshman so be prepared for some inconsistency. Somers is not the team I thought they would be so far this year. I would say Mahopac and Horace Greeley have jumped them. The Somers vs Greeley matchup this Saturday will be interesting.

C- Down to Rye and Jay as predicted. I would give the edge to Rye as of now. Jay is not as good as I expected this year but still has room to grow. They are both fairly young teams so I expect them both to be firing on all cylinders by May. Pelham is a team to keep an eye on. They have a lot of talent and can take down Rye or Jay if they have an off day. A lot of the teams that I thought were going to be in the mix have underperformed. Byram Hills, Tappan Zee, Pearl River, and Hendrick Hudson are not in a position to compete for the title as of right now.

D- Nationally ranked Pleasantville is without a doubt the favorite as of now and may be the best team in Section 1. I predicted their offense would be great but their inexperienced defense deserves some respect. They bend but don't break. Bronxville and Briarcliff cannot be taken lightly. I would say Bronxville is the clear number two and have some close losses. They should trend upward. Briarcliff is trying to win rock fights with their zone defense and they have a surprising win over Mamo. Haldane is the team to watch and we have to wait until the last day of the regular season if they can surpass Briarcliff

For Class B, yeah it seems like Yorktown's to lose at this point.

Won't know how good Greeley or Somers are until they play John Jay later in their season.

Greeley specifically seem to have a chip on their shoulder with their new coach, was pretty surprised they beat North Rockland.

Somers if they can't pull it together could be looking at a real tough season Ridgefield, Rye, Greenwich, Yorktown and John Jay are their next five games.

Mahopac plays North Rockland this week so maybe it will be a decent matchup to see how they would shape up against Greeley.

Can we start discussing JV teams?

I've seen Arlington, Carmel, Greeley, John Jay, Rye, Scarsdale and Wappingers.
Rye JV was the most impressive team. Nearly everyone on that team plays club too (shocker).

The Arlington and JJ staff seemed to be the best.

You are spot on with the JJ, Arlington and Rye staffs. Scarsdale I am sure is not that far behind.
Greeley tough to judge as I don't believe they have a true goalie. Carmel is thin but getting better.
Somers isn't too bad but has injuries. Pelham is decent as well

The two biggest games on the docket today are Yorktown/Somers and John JayCR vs. Mahopac.

I'm hoping Somers can make some noise on this one. i think Yorktown has more horses in this one.

Mahopac is continuing to peak at the right times. JJCR has been up and down If they can get up for this, it will be a clash of styles with Mahopac preferring the up and down the field game and JJCR more deliberate. JJCR i think has the goalie advantage in this one.

And hello to scarsdale with the gigantic W over a REALLY good Stepinac team this week.

Yorktown Somers game was halted mid 3rd quarter after an injury. Somers player was hurt and coaches decided not to continue the game

Class A- Feels like Scarsdale's to lose at this point.

Class B- Yorktown, Mahopac or Greeley

Circle 5/12 on the calendar Greeley vs JJ-CR if they can play with or even beat JJ I think they can actually challenge for the section 1. But until then they are just a dark horse.

Greeley could lose the rest of their games and still get the first seed which means Mahopac and Yorktown will have to play each other before the final.

Class C- Rye or JJ-CR

Class D- Pleasantville

Basically the last week of regular season

A- Mamo vs Scarsdale final game of season should be a good grudge match but not sure it matters much as they see each other later in playoffs. Scars owns mental edge, not sure how Mamo shakes that, maybe being away as underdog is better for them? Don't see how N Rockland can beat either one of them.

B- Yorktown seems to have the juice for this group but the brutal schedule shows they can lose. Greeley is a year ahead of schedule and will be a tough out. Hard to deny Pac when that team takes the field. Somers just can't hang with the top teams. Playoff seedings will be unusual and some early rounds will have top teams going at it.

C- Rye up there, then JJCR. Pelham seems like they shouldn't be in the mix but each year they come though in playoffs. Lack of FOGO for Rye matters with these teams. Rest of C teams just too thin to do damage to top teams.

D- Pleasantville has been so good. Can Bronxville, Briarcliff or even Haldane beat them? Yes. Maybe. But a lot has to go wrong for Pville. Interesting is how Bville and Bcliff played such tough schedules, so they'll be low in the brackets as teams like Blind Brook and Rye Neck grab higher seeds. So Round 1 could see top teams playing each other.

Never mentioned Rye's JV staff. I don't know the HC of Rye, but anyone could lead that team; that team is like a fine tuned club lax team.

B and D are good examples of the inherent issue with the way rankings are currently done. And I say this without an alternative that I’d find better (yet). The way it is rewards teams for playing either: a) a weaker in-section schedule (Greeley, North Rockland) or b) a strong non-section 1 schedule (Yorktown, Pleasentville, JJCR, Scarsdale) which I’d prefer teams play.

We see too many early round matchups between what arguably are the two best teams because someone else in the class loaded up with a soft schedule and gamed the seed.

I’d have to crunch the numbers to include a strength of schedule component for the seedlings. The data is there we have Opponents win %. I’d have to do some further digging to get opponents-opponents win % to crunch the SOS for each team. But you look at D, and briarcliff and bronxvilles SOS would dwarf anyone else’s besides Pleasentville. B, Yorktown, Mahopac and Somers SOS would probably be too three easily.

There shouldn’t be an incentive for loading up a weaker schedule to get the higher seed.

The problem with factoring SOS is you arrive at the same result - the math doesn't know the difference between a 7-9 team with a loaded scheduled vs a 7-9 team with a cupcake schedule.

The system is fine as is - best team will always make it through. The only marquee game is the section final, and you can't you fake your way into there. Its much more important to ensure that all teams can manufacture a 16 game schedule that makes for fun and competitive games for all teams.

Also, keep in mind that the traditional powers don't often want to play the "others". So, it's not necessarily true that teams are purposely playing a soft schedule. It's sometimes true that the big teams are not returning calls.

The problem with factoring SOS is you arrive at the same result - the math doesn't know the difference between a 7-9 team with a loaded scheduled vs a 7-9 team with a cupcake schedule.

The system is fine as is - best team will always make it through. The only marquee game is the section final, and you can't you fake your way into there. Its much more important to ensure that all teams can manufacture a 16 game schedule that makes for fun and competitive games for all teams.

Also, keep in mind that the traditional powers don't often want to play the "others". So, it's not necessarily true that teams are purposely playing a soft schedule. It's sometimes true that the big teams are not returning calls.

Section 1 takes into account the SOS for section 1 teams only with its bonus points formula. Every team you play that has a .500-.749 record you receive 1 bonus point, and every team with a .750 record or better you receive 2 bonus points.

Except that it would... a 7-9 team vs. a soft schedule would otherwise be properly seeded. a 9-7 team with a strong schedule also would. Where SOS would be a factor would be more correctly ranking that 9-7 team who had a strong schedule versus a 12-4 team that played a weak one.
Just look at the classes, you look at A and B and tell me that those are the correct rankings after you look at everyone's schedule? And who their opponents played? You have arguably the two best D teams outside Pleasentville and they are at 6 and 8 right now. All due respect to those other teams above them, but do we honestly think they would beat either of them?

As it stands, and for the last couple of years it has been mostly true: the best thing you can do is load up on a soft schedule, lock in the 1 seed and make the 2-3 best teams play each other in the semis and you only have one to beat. Or if you want to challenge yourselves you have a soft section1 schedule but load up on tough opponents out of section since they don't have an impact on the seedings. In fact, the math works more in your favor doing that.

Pelham just put everyone in C on notice. They had a 6-1 lead early and held on to a 1 goal win over Pleasentville.
Yorktown did well over Rye who is struggling without their FO guy. C is now a 3 team race.
I don't think Byram is as strong to compete with those three, but in a one-game situation, anything it possible.

Yorktown looked really good vs. Rye. I believe at least the top 4 are locked in now in B.

Assuming everything else remains similar bracket-wise - and there will be a lot of movement yet:

A- North Rockland has a clear path to the finals. Shame that Mamo and Scarsdale will be a Semi-Final, that would be a great final game.

B- Greeley has the 1 seed mathematically locked up. Friday's game vs. JJCR will be the real litmus test to see if they can hang with the big boys. Only change I see is maybe Yorktown and Mahopac swapping the 2-3 seeds but they will still see each other in the semis. It's just a matter of which jersey they are wearing. I don't see a true 4th team at this point other than Somers, I detest to see they weren't as good this year as many thoguht they would be - never count them out though! Same for Fox Lane, but I don't think this is their year. Eastchester might shock someone. Somers would love the rematch vs. Greeley.

C - Rye has a clear path to the finals. Pelham/Tappan Zee quarterfinal matchup could be interesting and a Pelham/JJCR rematch in the semis will be a much different game than the week 1 game they had this season - both are much better than that game. Rye vs. Pelham i think Rye takes is. Rye vs. JJCR would be a great game: tossup

D - Still all Pleasentville despite yesterday's hiccup. If Bronxville and Briarcliff are both on the other side of the bracket, that will be a good semi matchup. One of them on the same side as Pleasentville gives the other a clearer path to the final.

Good luck to all as the regular season winds down!

North Rockland's path is a function of how weak A is. C, for instance, has 7 teams all better than whoever is the 4th team in A.

I completely agree with you - I am just pointing out where things stand and predicting what is likely to happen

No way North Rockland can be 1 with that weak schedule, look at who Scarsdale and Mamaroneck play.

The problem with factoring SOS is you arrive at the same result - the math doesn't know the difference between a 7-9 team with a loaded scheduled vs a 7-9 team with a cupcake schedule.

The system is fine as is - best team will always make it through. The only marquee game is the section final, and you can't you fake your way into there. Its much more important to ensure that all teams can manufacture a 16 game schedule that makes for fun and competitive games for all teams.

Also, keep in mind that the traditional powers don't often want to play the "others". So, it's not necessarily true that teams are purposely playing a soft schedule. It's sometimes true that the big teams are not returning calls.

Sorry, but looking at the current brackets, that's exactly what is happening. Mamo and Scarsdale are head and shoulders the 2 best teams in A and that's going to be a semi final game. Compare their schedules with North Rockland schedule and it's not even close

Same in B - Mahopac and Yorktown are headed for a Semi Game - is there any real arguement they aren't the two best teams right now in B? Again, look at their schedules vs. Greeley's

C - JJCR and Rye are the top two, if they make it through to the finals, they will see each other - compare those schedules to others in section 1 Alot more balanced.

D - P'ville, Briarcliff and Bronxville all challenged themselves this year. yet 2 of them are middle of the pack. Someone else mentioned: are the 3-4 teams seeded ahead of them really better than them? I don't think so