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That bracket has all programs c teams in it. For the weaker teams

Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

Then YJW goes on to kill it in the next two games! Also, Beating NEMS. You must be a Legacy parent? Lol Who did Legacy beat? Putting yourself last in your daily wrap up is a giveaway. Good job Legacy parent! Good luck in a less competitive bracket. But hey! Good for showcasing your girls.

Obviously “Source” is the top tier group in the 2024 bracket.

Look at the whole picture. You are Comparing Apples and Oranges.

Also remember, this is a showcase tournament and most teams do equal playing time format for showcasing. Very Different then championship tournament play, when a team will play top players to “win”.

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Most teams are all playing to showcase. With the exception of top guns and legacy, I have not heard any team completely taking time from kids. At this age, some kids will play less time but most of the time thats not purposeful. The way the cookie crumbles in sports is that each line is not getting second to second time because of how the game is structured. As a parent walking around yesterday afternoon, you could see that girls were being subbed every few minutes and that MOST teams were very diligent about making sure no one sat an entire half. Now will you get 15 minutes if another midfielder gets 15, no. One may get a few minutes more if there is no chance to sub, and again thats SPORTS.

Good team, but like all the top teams, only 4-5 go to the top tier academic/athletic programs. I’m talking top 50 academic, top 20 athletic. You will see. You will also be surprised how many girls from “lesser “ club programs wind up at these schools because they’re identified as top athletes. Coaches don’t recruit teams, and a lot of you will be in for a very rude awakening.

Ok jesters dad - nobody cares about wins and loses at this point (especially at a showcase). You know what wasn’t a surprise yesterday is your daughter watching from the sidelines while the coaches daughter plays every minute of every game. Also not a surprise how every play is designed for the lefty low attack. Must be great for recruiting. But hey enjoy that two goal loss!

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.

Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

You couldn’t be more wrong about 91. Not sure how you’d even know anything about them. My daughter plays in this team and we are so happy with how well she’s treated, how professional and kind the coaches are. All of the kids and parents seem very very happy. All of the kids played pretty much the same amount of time this weekend because, like the coaches told them and us, they wanted to showcase every kid evenly.

Simply put the two 91 coaches are the best my daughter has ever had!

Complaining parents should throw their hats in the ring. After all they all seem to know who should be playing, how much and all aspects of lacrosse. Be the coach and then your daughter can play the entire game and solidify her standing as a D-1 player. When your kid isn't as good, cry daddy coach and all those who's daughers dont play as much either chime in "yeah thats right!". Last I checked players and parents are free to go dominate on any other team they want.

Up and coming? Didn’t the jesters go 0-4 this weekend including losses to two teams ranked lower than 70?

The rankings are not legit yet- not nearly enough games. Playing [ChillLaxin] teams to get 4 wins does nothing for you. Get some games in where scores are within 3 for each game and that’s a good competition. college Coaches don’t care if you lost by 3, they’re there to watch you play players at your level. At this point, I commend jesters & Weiner for giving their girls equal time to showcase them even if it meant losses. I watched other program who did not do the same. 91 very lopsided. Top guns very lopsided. Legacy lopsided. So the fact that those coaches were willing to lose by playing everyone speaks to their understanding of what these tournaments mean at this age group. The only people who care about scores anymore are mommy and daddy on the sideline who want to text their buddies on other teams how much better they are than other teams

Agree 100%. Playing D3 in front of top D1 coaches won’t help the player and the team will struggle to remain competitive. Coaches will go watch better games.

You my friend are in la la land, but please let us know how great you are that you lost to skywalkers b team by 10.

is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they smacked YJ which is true. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls are close, and they look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

Agreed. 91, although playing against teams that were better than them in many cases, also played everyone evenly so they can showcase all the kids like when they lost to M&D red by 4.

Quick little mic drop for the bandits dad. Probably the coaches sig other or kids best friend who plays the entire 45 minutes

You guys are hilarious. How do you know so much about so many teams in the 2024 age group ?

91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

This is a joke right …?

so sorry, meant for the 2027 age group

This is great! Great way to break up the drama

I’m amazed at how some of you seem to have all this info on every 2024 team. How is it possible ? Did you sit around the field after your kids games and take notes ? Seems like a very disgruntled parent. You really should focus on your child and not worry about every other program.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Seems like Ramos, Spallina, and Caramelli should go have dinner and talk about strategies to get rid of daddy and mommy ball in their clubs.

Who is Ramos? The others had some talented kids that would have done well regardless, and a couple that daddy got recruited and won’t see the field. Should Thorn and Giacalone be invited to the dinner?

Cant knock Spallina. Ramos on the other hand is a different story

Best in Class is a fantastic event. Very well organized and top level talent. Very happy that my daughter is here.

Does anyone know anything about the Spotlight Division for UA?

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore

Don’t let facts get in the way of your post. Girls did leave YJA for other transyand YJ merged with Igloo because they were tired of playing 2nd fiddle to TG 23. Well in the end TG 23 ended up still being the top team on the Island and those are the facts.

Lol, ran the table?? their best player is an IG transfer. They also did loose a few players to Legacy and TG. That group does not have a very deep commit list (to most coveted schools). Trust me, girls left due to parent coaches

How are we on 23s in a 24 thread

- "bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits."

Newsflash... The bottom of the rosters never went to Top 20 Programs, Less than 10 players on the best teams from Long Island go to Top 20 Programs. Maybe 6 - 7 players from the 2 or three top teams will commit to legit Top 20 Programs.

You are obviously just someone trying to start trouble. Every 91 girl was showcased.