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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to Girls 2024 (10th Graders) for the Fall 2021/Summer 2022 season.
Now that UA and AS National events are actually happening, does anyone at either event have any constructive feedback?
The parents may act like 4th graders on here.. but Im pretty sure the class of 2024 is heading to 10th grade
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Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.
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Now that UA and AS National events are actually happening, does anyone at either event have any constructive feedback?

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Attending AS and was at UA last year. I think AS makes more sense since coaches recruit by graduation year. This year coaches needed to see the 2023's. How many 23's would be on the Highlight rosters. The same holds true for the 24’s next year. The decision to do AS was difficult because it was new. For our region, the top players came to the AS tryout and filled the roster so it made the decision easier. There are still many excellent players doing UA but seems 23 the rosters were more impressive for 23, 24, & 25 at AS. Went over to watch several 23 games in between my daughter's games and the competition and coach turnout was excellent. We did UA last year but it was regional and coaches could not be in attendance. I cannot speak on the UA tournament with all regions together to be fully honest. I’m sure the senior game will be fun to watch. We will come out for AS again next year for the reasons listed above. My only recommendation would be that next year they give the girls more swag. Girls get a lot of stuff at UA 150 for a similar cost. This was the first year for AS with many start-up costs, so hoping if my daughter makes it again, they get some good gear! A Nike Senior game would be cool as well, but that may be in the works as it makes sense.
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Attending AS and was at UA last year. I think AS makes more sense since coaches recruit by graduation year. This year coaches needed to see the 2023's. How many 23's would be on the Highlight rosters. The same holds true for the 24’s next year. The decision to do AS was difficult because it was new. For our region, the top players came to the AS tryout and filled the roster so it made the decision easier. There are still many excellent players doing UA but seems 23 the rosters were more impressive for 23, 24, & 25 at AS. Went over to watch several 23 games in between my daughter's games and the competition and coach turnout was excellent. We did UA last year but it was regional and coaches could not be in attendance. I cannot speak on the UA tournament with all regions together to be fully honest. I’m sure the senior game will be fun to watch. We will come out for AS again next year for the reasons listed above. My only recommendation would be that next year they give the girls more swag. Girls get a lot of stuff at UA 150 for a similar cost. This was the first year for AS with many start-up costs, so hoping if my daughter makes it again, they get some good gear! A Nike Senior game would be cool as well, but that may be in the works as it makes sense.

Of course your kid will make it, she had 2 teams per age group. Maybe 3 next year.
Best “selected” talent still at UA. Look at the W’s.
Every region at AS had one team per age except for Long Island. Maybe better LI players at UA or AS teams weakened with split but for many regions the better players were at AS.
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Attending AS and was at UA last year. I think AS makes more sense since coaches recruit by graduation year. This year coaches needed to see the 2023's. How many 23's would be on the Highlight rosters. The same holds true for the 24’s next year. The decision to do AS was difficult because it was new. For our region, the top players came to the AS tryout and filled the roster so it made the decision easier. There are still many excellent players doing UA but seems 23 the rosters were more impressive for 23, 24, & 25 at AS. Went over to watch several 23 games in between my daughter's games and the competition and coach turnout was excellent. We did UA last year but it was regional and coaches could not be in attendance. I cannot speak on the UA tournament with all regions together to be fully honest. I’m sure the senior game will be fun to watch. We will come out for AS again next year for the reasons listed above. My only recommendation would be that next year they give the girls more swag. Girls get a lot of stuff at UA 150 for a similar cost. This was the first year for AS with many start-up costs, so hoping if my daughter makes it again, they get some good gear! A Nike Senior game would be cool as well, but that may be in the works as it makes sense.

Of course your kid will make it, she had 2 teams per age group. Maybe 3 next year.
Best “selected” talent still at UA. Look at the W’s.

What happened was that they picked one team of 22 from the girls who tried out, the one not picked were put on the red team, and then they sent out invites to fill the rest of the team.
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Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.
Does anyone know what’s going on with crossfire now that all of that drama in the old thread went down? Are those kids going to stay for the other coach? Team will likely still be weak and with two parents coaches those kids are in for some huge differences in what they’re used to receiving
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

If her team is smart they’ll all register to follow her or at least move elsewhere. The club clearly doesn’t care about them
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[quote=Anonymous]Attending AS and was at UA last year. I think AS makes more sense since coaches recruit by graduation year. This year coaches needed to see the 2023's. How many 23's would be on the Highlight rosters. The same holds true for the 24’s next year. The decision to do AS was difficult because it was new. For our region, the top players came to the AS tryout and filled the roster so it made the decision easier. There are still many excellent players doing UA but seems 23 the rosters were more impressive for 23, 24, & 25 at AS. Went over to watch several 23 games in between my daughter's games and the competition and coach turnout was excellent. We did UA last year but it was regional and coaches could not be in attendance. I cannot speak on the UA tournament with all regions together to be fully honest. I’m sure the senior game will be fun to watch. We will come out for AS again next year for the reasons listed above. My only recommendation would be that next year they give the girls more swag. Girls get a lot of stuff at UA 150 for a similar cost. This was the first year for AS with many start-up costs, so hoping if my daughter makes it again, they get some good gear! A Nike Senior game would be cool as well, but that may be in the works as it makes sense.

Thank you for your feedback - very helpful!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.


Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

Where is she moving? 91 2024 tryouts has a huge turnout and most of them knew her
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

No one wanted to lose her it was a real bummer
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.


Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

Where is she moving? 91 2024 tryouts has a huge turnout and most of them knew her

Jesters 2024 black head and 2024 pink assistant according to her bio on Instagram. Wondering if Jesters is smart enough to post that she’s their new 2024 coach on any sort of platform. They’d likely profit off her just like 91 did by using her name to market
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Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

No one wanted to lose her it was a real bummer

Are kids following her ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

No one wanted to lose her it was a real bummer

Jesters. I think you can still try out.
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.
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Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Love this site. Not a single one of you actually has the facts correct. That’s usually the case on here. But you all keep going. Don’t let facts get in the way of your drama.

Bets on which 91 rep posted this

Probably the woman with the black hair that works for 91. She is full of sell importance but little else. Big mouth, little brain. Just a cog in the great wheel and 91 let’s her think she’s more. This way they can milk her too. Milking the suckers as they line up to be milked.

No matter what the scenario was those kids got screwed out of a good coach and the chance to actually have a good team. If those kids are smart they’d head the warnings of what 91 did this week and bail.

They should have heeded the warnings last year when Coach Tilts was promoting the team. She’s very nice and very good, but 91 is still 91.

Tilts works very hard. She’s never even met her new team and has already started up social media work for them

No one wanted to lose her it was a real bummer

Are kids following her ?

It’s better to be on the YJ D team then be at 91 girls. At least you won’t be stuck in MyLolipop tournaments all year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

I think the better question is how 91 will be now… that coach is a looney bin who only has her kids interest at heart. Good luck to any of Tilts kids who stay. Perozzis ego won’t allow her to treat the crossfire group with any sort of decency
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.

Our girls did well this year. 91 hasn’t told anyone anything. Tilts was the only one transparent this entire time which is why so many of us are pissed at the club. If you go back to the old 2024 thread you can see that no one is happy. A woman from bandits Perozzi is taking over the A team. We don’t know her very well but from BOTC posts she’s been referred to as a cancer which is unsettling. None of us want her as a coach but we don’t really have an option but to say yes to her until we’re able to go to other tryouts this week and next week to see if we have a second option. No new players brought in took a spot at 91.
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Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

All it takes is a dedicated coach and kids who want it and they can flourish
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.

Our girls did well this year. 91 hasn’t told anyone anything. Tilts was the only one transparent this entire time which is why so many of us are pissed at the club. If you go back to the old 2024 thread you can see that no one is happy. A woman from bandits Perozzi is taking over the A team. We don’t know her very well but from BOTC posts she’s been referred to as a cancer which is unsettling. None of us want her as a coach but we don’t really have an option but to say yes to her until we’re able to go to other tryouts this week and next week to see if we have a second option. No new players brought in took a spot at 91.

WOW, hopefully coach Tilts gave you a heads up and invited you all to 91 tryouts starting tomorrow
BOTC - Can this title be fixed. Not 4th graders
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.

Our girls did well this year. 91 hasn’t told anyone anything. Tilts was the only one transparent this entire time which is why so many of us are pissed at the club. If you go back to the old 2024 thread you can see that no one is happy. A woman from bandits Perozzi is taking over the A team. We don’t know her very well but from BOTC posts she’s been referred to as a cancer which is unsettling. None of us want her as a coach but we don’t really have an option but to say yes to her until we’re able to go to other tryouts this week and next week to see if we have a second option. No new players brought in took a spot at 91.

WOW, hopefully coach Tilts gave you a heads up and invited you all to 91 tryouts starting tomorrow


Did you mean jesters tryouts tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.

Our girls did well this year. 91 hasn’t told anyone anything. Tilts was the only one transparent this entire time which is why so many of us are pissed at the club. If you go back to the old 2024 thread you can see that no one is happy. A woman from bandits Perozzi is taking over the A team. We don’t know her very well but from BOTC posts she’s been referred to as a cancer which is unsettling. None of us want her as a coach but we don’t really have an option but to say yes to her until we’re able to go to other tryouts this week and next week to see if we have a second option. No new players brought in took a spot at 91.

WOW, hopefully coach Tilts gave you a heads up and invited you all to 91 tryouts starting tomorrow


Did you mean jesters tryouts tomorrow?

Yes! Jesters tryouts tomorrow. Did she tell “her” 91 girls to come to tryouts? The ones that have been so loyal to her.
Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week.
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Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week.

Against watered down competition. Did they win championships? Teams played to get to championships on the weak side. How did it end?
"Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week."

You must be one of the people who tags own daughter and Booker Corrigan in your social media, congratulating them on a great event. Blech. Get real.
Highlight won. All the college head coaches were at UA. How d you make out at American select.
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Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Team 91 adding parent coaches and Jesters minimizing them. Definitely a move in the right direction for Jesters.
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Highlight won. All the college head coaches were at UA. How d you make out at American select.

College coaches were all at AS. Coaches tent filled with head coaches. They headed to UA after. I’m sure the games at AS impressed them more
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[quote=Anonymous]Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Jesters black was pretty good last year. Add a non-daddy coach and a few key girls they’re going to be very good. Tilts turned crossfire around and it seems like she’s very well known in the college recruiting world as that was one of her roles at 91

I think that teams about to be stacked especially if any of her top kids from 91 go

How did 91 do this year ? Who is going to take the coach that’s leaving place at 91? Did 91 already have tryouts? Did she do this after tryouts? Hopefully at least let girls who followed her to 91 know she was leaving.

Our girls did well this year. 91 hasn’t told anyone anything. Tilts was the only one transparent this entire time which is why so many of us are pissed at the club. If you go back to the old 2024 thread you can see that no one is happy. A woman from bandits Perozzi is taking over the A team. We don’t know her very well but from BOTC posts she’s been referred to as a cancer which is unsettling. None of us want her as a coach but we don’t really have an option but to say yes to her until we’re able to go to other tryouts this week and next week to see if we have a second option. No new players brought in took a spot at 91.

WOW, hopefully coach Tilts gave you a heads up and invited you all to 91 tryouts starting tomorrow

Yes! Jesters tryouts tomorrow. Did she tell “her” 91 girls to come to tryouts? The ones that have been so loyal to her.


I’m lost … if they played for her they were her players? I’m sure there are 91 girls going. You seem a little bitter, care to share why?
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Will Jesters Black will be good this upcoming year? Some key returners, and good girls from other clubs joining like elevate. And now with tilts as the coach, they will be a much better team than past years.

Team 91 adding parent coaches and Jesters minimizing them. Definitely a move in the right direction for Jesters.

Someone on here commented weeks ago they were unhappy with jesters black parent coaches so I guess they took the feedback
I’m lost why did Tilts quit? Her and that group seemed very close
Anyone have any input on 2024 Bengals team?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week.

Against watered down competition. Did they win championships? Teams played to get to championships on the weak side. How did it end?

Your kid didn’t make it, huh?
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Anyone have any input on 2024 Bengals team?

Avoid. Kids are decent but too many weak players. Empire isn’t in top recruiting events. You’d be better at other clubs b team to be honest then to play for them
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Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week.

Against watered down competition. Did they win championships? Teams played to get to championships on the weak side. How did it end?

Your kid didn’t make it, huh?

Didn't even entertain the thought of UA nonsense after last years ridiculous tryouts and evaluator nonsense. Saw it happened again this year. Teams made around a few of the people running it picks , and the rest just fillers who sit the bench when it counts! Serves as a spotlight for a few girls. Totally biased! Where was the Northport girl? Proves that point! Politics…
The UA senior game was great to watch on espn! Great to see the 2021's a great game. The 2022 teams for American select were not stacked with the best because the best of 2022 are already committed! Why pay $500+ for a few nike shirts and shorts(AS had bad swag). The 2023 American Select girls were clearly the top players. I watched the games and saw the coaches in attendance. The format of American Select is just better for college coaches to see the girls they are interested in now, the 2023 class. The 2023's will pay the money for the better exposure and better competition, simple as that. Why would a 2023 join the AU over the AS when 75% of the UA team are 2022 commits? They know most of the coaches are only watching "their committed" 2022 girls if they watch at all.

The 2024's were clearly the top players and I'm sure they all want to do AS again if they make the teams next year. Long Island can cry about 2 watered down teams, figure it out in the next 12 months. What was obvious from watching the 2024's is there is talent all over the country! There were a lot of surprise wins last week! The tops clubs will stay on top of the national rankings because they are just deeper than the other clubs around the country. These AS games allowed great players from different clubs to form some nice teams. The Florida and Cali teams had great showings with several legit top girls, kudos to those girls. Clearly the best grouping of 2024 talent that has been assembled was at AS last week! It will be the same story next year for the 2024's with the college coaches tents filled just like last week.
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The UA senior game was great to watch on espn! Great to see the 2021's a great game. The 2022 teams for American select were not stacked with the best because the best of 2022 are already committed! Why pay $500+ for a few nike shirts and shorts(AS had bad swag). The 2023 American Select girls were clearly the top players. I watched the games and saw the coaches in attendance. The format of American Select is just better for college coaches to see the girls they are interested in now, the 2023 class. The 2023's will pay the money for the better exposure and better competition, simple as that. Why would a 2023 join the AU over the AS when 75% of the UA team are 2022 commits? They know most of the coaches are only watching "their committed" 2022 girls if they watch at all.

The 2024's were clearly the top players and I'm sure they all want to do AS again if they make the teams next year. Long Island can cry about 2 watered down teams, figure it out in the next 12 months. What was obvious from watching the 2024's is there is talent all over the country! There were a lot of surprise wins last week! The tops clubs will stay on top of the national rankings because they are just deeper than the other clubs around the country. These AS games allowed great players from different clubs to form some nice teams. The Florida and Cali teams had great showings with several legit top girls, kudos to those girls. Clearly the best grouping of 2024 talent that has been assembled was at AS last week! It will be the same story next year for the 2024's with the college coaches tents filled just like last week.

Thank you for the helpful feedback. I agree it's exciting to see good teams starting to come out of different regions - Colorado, Florida, Georgia and California look to be on the up and up! How many coaches would you estimate were watching the 23s? Were any coaches watching the 24s?
If say 60 coaches we’re watching!
disagree. They have some good players and in need of a defensive player and middie
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Anyone have any input on 2024 Bengals team?

Avoid. Kids are decent but too many weak players. Empire isn’t in top recruiting events. You’d be better at other clubs b team to be honest then to play for them

Please elaborate. Wouldn’t that mean that they are looking for stronger players?
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Under Armour was an incredible event!! Awesome exposure and well run. Both Long Island Command and Highlight made it to the championship. All the girls were extremely well coached all week.

Against watered down competition. Did they win championships? Teams played to get to championships on the weak side. How did it end?

Your kid didn’t make it, huh?

Didn't even entertain the thought of UA nonsense after last years ridiculous tryouts and evaluator nonsense. Saw it happened again this year. Teams made around a few of the people running it picks , and the rest just fillers who sit the bench when it counts! Serves as a spotlight for a few girls. Totally biased! Where was the Northport girl? Proves that point! Politics…

Dude are you gonna post about the Northport girl on every thread? Is she a 2024??? No. She got cut, get over it. She didn't look good at tryouts. It happens. Life goes on.
Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?
I forgot to mention Colorado and Georgia, thanks! All these AS teams were top heavy in talent(UA is not to be ignored). The bottom half of the rosters may drop off in talent from the "traditional" regions, but they can hang with the best now. The elite 30 girls of every class will still go to the same top 5-8 schools as in the past. But the second tier talent that used to be 60 girls is now around 120+ girls because of the growth of the sport. The coaches that really do their homework will find the numerous hidden gems out there grinding away to improve. Understand, the undisputed top talent of the 2023 and 2024 classes are still many years away from stepping on a college field. The NFL can barely correctly pick 21 year olds who can play in their league. How do we expect to be perfect predicting how good 15 year old girls will be at the college game? The lessons are in the journey and the great events like American Select and Under Armour!!
Glad some of the other "non-traditional" areas did well. North Carolina team was filled with mid-tier players from the "host club" and the results showed.
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Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?

$2000 is a bit steep, but I think it could be worth it . Hotels were expensive in the area. Maybe organizers can work with hotels for blocks and get some better pricing. Get teams together like at NYSR. Also, make the event more eventful, and not just like any other tournament. Offer some extras. Guest speakers regarding college recruitment, etc. Maybe have a big BBQ for all the teams. Maybe some interactive booths and vendors. Think convention… but, obviously much smaller scale. “An exoerience”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?

Definitely needs to be more affordable. Don’t think any one event worth $2000. Directors need to work on the cost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?

$2000 is a bit steep, but I think it could be worth it . Hotels were expensive in the area. Maybe organizers can work with hotels for blocks and get some better pricing. Get teams together like at NYSR. Also, make the event more eventful, and not just like any other tournament. Offer some extras. Guest speakers regarding college recruitment, etc. Maybe have a big BBQ for all the teams. Maybe some interactive booths and vendors. Think convention… but, obviously much smaller scale. “An exoerience”

Add airfare for anyone in the West or Mid West Region for tryouts AND national event...cost prohibitive for most folks.
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Anyone have any input on 2024 Bengals team?

Avoid. Kids are decent but too many weak players. Empire isn’t in top recruiting events. You’d be better at other clubs b team to be honest then to play for them

Please elaborate. Wouldn’t that mean that they are looking for stronger players?

Yes but you don’t want to be on a team where you’re the best player. If there are huge inconsistencies and parent coaches whose kids blow but won’t come off the field why go there
Any one have experience with them and the coaching?
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[quote=Anonymous]Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?[/
$2000 is a bit steep, but I think it could be worth it . Hotels were expensive in the area. Maybe organizers can work with hotels for blocks and get some better pricing. Get teams together like at NYSR. Also, make the event more eventful, and not just like any other tournament. Offer some extras. Guest speakers regarding college recruitment, etc. Maybe have a big BBQ for all the teams. Maybe some interactive booths and vendors. Think convention… but, obviously much smaller scale. “An exoerience”

Add airfare for anyone in the West or Mid West Region for tryouts AND national event...cost prohibitive for most folks.
Yeah for my financial situations I’d rather spend $1500 on 3 or 4 college camps. To each his own.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?[/
$2000 is a bit steep, but I think it could be worth it . Hotels were expensive in the area. Maybe organizers can work with hotels for blocks and get some better pricing. Get teams together like at NYSR. Also, make the event more eventful, and not just like any other tournament. Offer some extras. Guest speakers regarding college recruitment, etc. Maybe have a big BBQ for all the teams. Maybe some interactive booths and vendors. Think convention… but, obviously much smaller scale. “An exoerience”

Add airfare for anyone in the West or Mid West Region for tryouts AND national event...cost prohibitive for most folks.
Yeah for my financial situations I’d rather spend $1500 on 3 or 4 college camps. To each his own.


it was a great event! TONS of college coaches!! It was def one of the best events of the summer for my 2023.
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Any one have experience with them and the coaching?

Many parent coaches with kids who aren’t strong who still get to play. Middle tier team with no real recruiting events and inconsistent talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any one have experience with them and the coaching?

Many parent coaches with kids who aren’t strong who still get to play. Middle tier team with no real recruiting events and inconsistent talent.

Empire has always been weak
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Just want honest opinions…was AS worth the $2,000 overall cost between the try out, tourney fee, hotels, gas, food and tolls for 1 tourney?

Besides costs, what would have made it a better overall experience?[/
$2000 is a bit steep, but I think it could be worth it . Hotels were expensive in the area. Maybe organizers can work with hotels for blocks and get some better pricing. Get teams together like at NYSR. Also, make the event more eventful, and not just like any other tournament. Offer some extras. Guest speakers regarding college recruitment, etc. Maybe have a big BBQ for all the teams. Maybe some interactive booths and vendors. Think convention… but, obviously much smaller scale. “An exoerience”

Add airfare for anyone in the West or Mid West Region for tryouts AND national event...cost prohibitive for most folks.
Yeah for my financial situations I’d rather spend $1500 on 3 or 4 college camps. To each his own.


it was a great event! TONS of college coaches!! It was def one of the best events of the summer for my 2023.

Yes, great event and great exposure to college coaches. Would be nice if they can figure away to make it more affordable.
Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise
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Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise

Where is presidents cup? Lax for the cure ? Chesapeake NE cup northern rise aren’t good recruiting events
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise

Where is presidents cup? Lax for the cure ? Chesapeake NE cup northern rise aren’t good recruiting events

Similar to TE tournaments. Check out their 15 D1 committs from 22 Blue. Guess those tournaments worked out. (Upenn, Penn st,, cornell etc.)
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Any one have experience with them and the coaching?

Many parent coaches with kids who aren’t strong who still get to play. Middle tier team with no real recruiting events and inconsistent talent.

Empire has always been weak

‘Always’??
What exactly do you know about Empire that others don’t?? Guessing you have been following them since it’s startup, for one reason or another. Which is actually sad in itself.
Yes, they are somewhat newer in the girls circuit, but cut some slack. Never once blown out against the big clubs. Win or lose, always close games.
How is the 91 merge working out? With the combo of bandits are they having 3 2024 teams? Or did they reduce to 2 teams bc bandits had 2 this age.
At the jesters 2024 tryouts they didn't warm up the goalies yesterday. They just had them pass around and then put them in stations to get shot at. Is that normal there.
Apparently they are going to have three teams
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise

Where is presidents cup? Lax for the cure ? Chesapeake NE cup northern rise aren’t good recruiting events

You don't need to go to every. single. major tournament. Chesapeake, Genesis, MA. All 3 of the top tournaments. The other 3 are also solid tournaments. All you need to do is check social media and as long as coaches are there, you are fine.

It gets boring playing the same teams over and over, especially with some of the travel that is involved. I know 2 MD teams at a younger age that played each 3 times this summer on top of an NGLL matchup. That is what happens if you only attend the "big name" events. It's boring and annoying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise

I honestly didn't realize they played in some of these tournaments. How did they do at Summer Genesis and Mid-Atlantic this summer?
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How is the 91 merge working out? With the combo of bandits are they having 3 2024 teams? Or did they reduce to 2 teams bc bandits had 2 this age.

Seems like a lot of girls are leaving but they have 3 teams but they’ll all be weaker
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tourney schedule for next year weak? No recruiting events? Where do you get your info? Sounds like someone from another club whose trying to disparage a solid team, or a disgruntled parent, but here’s their schedule for next fall/summer.

Chesapeake Invitational
Summer Genesis
IWLCA NE cup
The Grind
Mid Atlantic Summer Club championship
Northern Rise

I honestly didn't realize they played in some of these tournaments. How did they do at Summer Genesis and Mid-Atlantic this summer?

Can someone get the empire staff off this thread ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is the 91 merge working out? With the combo of bandits are they having 3 2024 teams? Or did they reduce to 2 teams bc bandits had 2 this age.

Seems like a lot of girls are leaving but they have 3 teams but they’ll all be weaker

That makes no sense. They have a lot of girls leaving but can form 3 teams and they are going to be weaker?
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?
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Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field
Another disgruntled parent who’s kid didn’t make a team or got bumped . This site is full of daddy’s who clearly are trying to relive their unfulfilling high school days .
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Another disgruntled parent who’s kid didn’t make a team or got bumped . This site is full of daddy’s who clearly are trying to relive their unfulfilling high school days .

Who's disgruntled? We won, you lost. How was your drive home? Took us 20 minutes and the girls got to celebrate a nice easy win!
Long Island played man-down the entire second half, and some of the second quarter. LI actually had the lead before that.
We clearly weren’t watching the same game. Long Island did get 3 yellow cards, but 1 was only served for about 30 seconds as they didn’t come out of the half down because it appears the refs forgot. Baltimore got 1 yellow card. I am not sure how you think Long Island was man down for most of the game
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is the 91 merge working out? With the combo of bandits are they having 3 2024 teams? Or did they reduce to 2 teams bc bandits had 2 this age.

Seems like a lot of girls are leaving but they have 3 teams but they’ll all be weaker

That makes no sense. They have a lot of girls leaving but can form 3 teams and they are going to be weaker?

My daughter was not a returner and wasn’t able to even attend tryouts and got an invitation for a team. No one has ever seen her play so I’m assuming they just invited everyone to collect a check
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is the 91 merge working out? With the combo of bandits are they having 3 2024 teams? Or did they reduce to 2 teams bc bandits had 2 this age.

Seems like a lot of girls are leaving but they have 3 teams but they’ll all be weaker

That makes no sense. They have a lot of girls leaving but can form 3 teams and they are going to be weaker?

My daughter was not a returner and wasn’t able to even attend tryouts and got an invitation for a team. No one has ever seen her play so I’m assuming they just invited everyone to collect a check

So they just invited whoever they could to fill spots?
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We clearly weren’t watching the same game. Long Island did get 3 yellow cards, but 1 was only served for about 30 seconds as they didn’t come out of the half down because it appears the refs forgot. Baltimore got 1 yellow card. I am not sure how you think Long Island was man down for most of the game

No. They got a fourth yellow early in the second quarter and had to play man down the rest of the game. Yes, the LI coaches mistakenly put 12 on the field to start the second half but once the ref realized it they went back to 11.

Also they got a fifth yellow at some point in 4th quarter so they played much of the 4th quarter down 2.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We clearly weren’t watching the same game. Long Island did get 3 yellow cards, but 1 was only served for about 30 seconds as they didn’t come out of the half down because it appears the refs forgot. Baltimore got 1 yellow card. I am not sure how you think Long Island was man down for most of the game

No. They got a fourth yellow early in the second quarter and had to play man down the rest of the game. Yes, the LI coaches mistakenly put 12 on the field to start the second half but once the ref realized it they went back to 11.

Also they got a fifth yellow at some point in 4th quarter so they played much of the 4th quarter down 2.

Who cares, LI lost badly to a better team. Please stop trying to make excuses. It’s over
No one is making excuses... somewhat asked what happened... that is what happened
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We clearly weren’t watching the same game. Long Island did get 3 yellow cards, but 1 was only served for about 30 seconds as they didn’t come out of the half down because it appears the refs forgot. Baltimore got 1 yellow card. I am not sure how you think Long Island was man down for most of the game

No. They got a fourth yellow early in the second quarter and had to play man down the rest of the game. Yes, the LI coaches mistakenly put 12 on the field to start the second half but once the ref realized it they went back to 11.

Also they got a fifth yellow at some point in 4th quarter so they played much of the 4th quarter down 2.

Who cares, LI lost badly to a better team. Please stop trying to make excuses. It’s over

LOL calm down Long Island American Select parent. Just explaining what happened. Congrats to the Baltimore girls, a very talented group who played a great game.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We clearly weren’t watching the same game. Long Island did get 3 yellow cards, but 1 was only served for about 30 seconds as they didn’t come out of the half down because it appears the refs forgot. Baltimore got 1 yellow card. I am not sure how you think Long Island was man down for most of the game

No. They got a fourth yellow early in the second quarter and had to play man down the rest of the game. Yes, the LI coaches mistakenly put 12 on the field to start the second half but once the ref realized it they went back to 11.

Also they got a fifth yellow at some point in 4th quarter so they played much of the 4th quarter down 2.

Who cares, LI lost badly to a better team. Please stop trying to make excuses. It’s over

LOL calm down Long Island American Select parent. Just explaining what happened. Congrats to the Baltimore girls, a very talented group who played a great game.

No explanation necessary. The score told the story. Now have your daughter hit the wall, maybe she will be more competitive next year
Another disgruntled triggered daddy lol , relax tiger , it’s a game played with 14 /15 year old girls . You sound ridiculous, giving everyone a play by play
Says the dad reliving his unfulfilling high school lax days through his daughter lol your kid has gotten on the field more than you ever did 😂
Dude let it go !! Go to the Maryland page and pat yourself on the back over there. Your way to involved , I feel bad for your kid . Those long drives home with you critiquing every little thing she did wrong . Must be fun
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field

Truthfully, was the better Baltimore players at UA or AS?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field

Truthfully, was the better Baltimore players at UA or AS?

The best MD girls were at AS which makes the loss even more embarrassing for you LI dad
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?
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Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


Lax on hah director needs to keep her face off Instagram
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


Lax on hah director needs to keep her face off Instagram

why is yjk a mess and a half?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


Lax on hah director needs to keep her face off Instagram

What’s the issue with lax on?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


How does one person know so much about all of theses teams tryouts and some teams haven’t even had their tryouts yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


How does one person know so much about all of theses teams tryouts and some teams haven’t even had their tryouts yet?

You talk to other parents ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


How does one person know so much about all of theses teams tryouts and some teams haven’t even had their tryouts yet?

You talk to other parents ?

Just talk to the other parents from your town and they’ll give you the scoop
TG lost or cut a few very average 2nd line players. I there is not 1 strong player that left team Supposedly they picked a super stud draw girl who had playing up with the top ranked TG '23 team. Just to playing with TG '23 team automatically strengthens that '24 team tremendously. They have Shannon Smith and proven record. That's why we to try outs Also heard they picked excellent players from YJ & Legacy.
YJ are starting to lose their shine. I wouldn't that route if I were you but that doesn't leave much more in the '24 age. You may want to look into Legacy? I hear program is strong not sure about'24's. You can wipe Jesters off as a possibility. They spend all of their time on coach and daddy's daughters team '23. No history at all with college and recruiting. And all of they can continue to hire all the HS coaches in the world isn't going to help your daughter and their 25 team program. They have so many working pieces and teams that anyone coaches for them.
I think Liberty has a girls team although you wouldn't know for sure because no one has ever seen them at tournaments or anywhere else!? That being said Liberty is probably not the best option if your daughter has talent.
Where does that leave you? YJ has A, B,C and D teams so I'm sure she would be a great fit for at least 1 of those teams. Best of luck to you and your daughter!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 24 teams seem to be in a good place after tryouts ?

Top Guns black lost some strong players but picked a few up from other teams cuts.

Yellow jackets is always strong but Kildare seems to be a mess and a half

Legacy’s A team looks good still.

Jesters had a great turnout and probably picked up some good talent with changes to coaching staff.

Laxon may have offered most players a spot who tried out, but unsure. Don’t want to say with certainty without real insight to back it up. Even if they did, good for them those kids probably could use the intensity those coaches bring and their training style.

91 we all saw how that went as seen on previous comments

Elevate A is about to crash and burn after losing a huge chunk of their roster.

Empire lost some strong athletes.

We know Rush folded and unsure what happened with recon.


How does one person know so much about all of theses teams tryouts and some teams haven’t even had their tryouts yet?

If you sit back and wait for someone to give you info, won’t happen. Take the initiative and investigate. Not that hard really
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG lost or cut a few very average 2nd line players. I there is not 1 strong player that left team Supposedly they picked a super stud draw girl who had playing up with the top ranked TG '23 team. Just to playing with TG '23 team automatically strengthens that '24 team tremendously. They have Shannon Smith and proven record. That's why we to try outs Also heard they picked excellent players from YJ & Legacy.
YJ are starting to lose their shine. I wouldn't that route if I were you but that doesn't leave much more in the '24 age. You may want to look into Legacy? I hear program is strong not sure about'24's. You can wipe Jesters off as a possibility. They spend all of their time on coach and daddy's daughters team '23. No history at all with college and recruiting. And all of they can continue to hire all the HS coaches in the world isn't going to help your daughter and their 25 team program. They have so many working pieces and teams that anyone coaches for them.
I think Liberty has a girls team although you wouldn't know for sure because no one has ever seen them at tournaments or anywhere else!? That being said Liberty is probably not the best option if your daughter has talent.
Where does that leave you? YJ has A, B,C and D teams so I'm sure she would be a great fit for at least 1 of those teams. Best of luck to you and your daughter!!


What’s your daughters top guns jersey # lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG lost or cut a few very average 2nd line players. I there is not 1 strong player that left team Supposedly they picked a super stud draw girl who had playing up with the top ranked TG '23 team. Just to playing with TG '23 team automatically strengthens that '24 team tremendously. They have Shannon Smith and proven record. That's why we to try outs Also heard they picked excellent players from YJ & Legacy.
YJ are starting to lose their shine. I wouldn't that route if I were you but that doesn't leave much more in the '24 age. You may want to look into Legacy? I hear program is strong not sure about'24's. You can wipe Jesters off as a possibility. They spend all of their time on coach and daddy's daughters team '23. No history at all with college and recruiting. And all of they can continue to hire all the HS coaches in the world isn't going to help your daughter and their 25 team program. They have so many working pieces and teams that anyone coaches for them.
I think Liberty has a girls team although you wouldn't know for sure because no one has ever seen them at tournaments or anywhere else!? That being said Liberty is probably not the best option if your daughter has talent.
Where does that leave you? YJ has A, B,C and D teams so I'm sure she would be a great fit for at least 1 of those teams. Best of luck to you and your daughter!!


What’s your daughters top guns jersey # lol

If you are a strong player and want great coaching Shannon Smith is excellent. If you aren’t strong go to a weaker club. Depends what you are looking forward. She’s one of the best.
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG lost or cut a few very average 2nd line players. I there is not 1 strong player that left team Supposedly they picked a super stud draw girl who had playing up with the top ranked TG '23 team. Just to playing with TG '23 team automatically strengthens that '24 team tremendously. They have Shannon Smith and proven record. That's why we to try outs Also heard they picked excellent players from YJ & Legacy.
YJ are starting to lose their shine. I wouldn't that route if I were you but that doesn't leave much more in the '24 age. You may want to look into Legacy? I hear program is strong not sure about'24's. You can wipe Jesters off as a possibility. They spend all of their time on coach and daddy's daughters team '23. No history at all with college and recruiting. And all of they can continue to hire all the HS coaches in the world isn't going to help your daughter and their 25 team program. They have so many working pieces and teams that anyone coaches for them.
I think Liberty has a girls team although you wouldn't know for sure because no one has ever seen them at tournaments or anywhere else!? That being said Liberty is probably not the best option if your daughter has talent.
Where does that leave you? YJ has A, B,C and D teams so I'm sure she would be a great fit for at least 1 of those teams. Best of luck to you and your daughter!!


What’s your daughters top guns jersey # lol

If you are a strong player and want great coaching Shannon Smith is excellent. If you aren’t strong go to a weaker club. Depends what you are looking forward. She’s one of the best.

Isn’t she kind of mean to kids ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field

Truthfully, was the better Baltimore players at UA or AS?

LI played down a player for 3 quarters and some of the game 2 players down. Was winning 3-1 after first quarter. Within of the 3 minutes 2nd was playing a man down the rest of the game…refs stink or bias, pick 1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field

Truthfully, was the better Baltimore players at UA or AS?

LI played down a player for 3 quarters and some of the game 2 players down. Was winning 3-1 after first quarter. Within of the 3 minutes 2nd was playing a man down the rest of the game…refs stink or bias, pick 1.

Most of us have been doing this for a long time now. When, if ever, were Long Island teams treated fairly in Maryland? Never. They don't like the way we play. The joke is, if anyone has ever watched a college game it's like LI lax, not MD flop lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what happened at the ua command finals, I know Baltimore is always a good team but the final score wasn’t even close, was it coaching?

Lack of talent was the problem. Baltimore girls just better all over he field

Truthfully, was the better Baltimore players at UA or AS?

LI played down a player for 3 quarters and some of the game 2 players down. Was winning 3-1 after first quarter. Within of the 3 minutes 2nd was playing a man down the rest of the game…refs stink or bias, pick 1.

Most of us have been doing this for a long time now. When, if ever, were Long Island teams treated fairly in Maryland? Never. They don't like the way we play. The joke is, if anyone has ever watched a college game it's like LI lax, not MD flop lax.

This Maryland LI rivalry is getting old
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

Does she have a parent assistant?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

As long as 91 gets a capable coach to fill the spot they’ll be fine
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

Does she have a parent assistant?

It’s two parents running their A team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

Does she have a parent assistant?

Or a dad parent as a “co-coach” , who’s the head coach
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

Does she have a parent assistant?

It’s two parents running their A team

The “A” team is the equivalent of the YJ C team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts livin up to the reviews so far with jesters. She’s already contacted my daughter and us and helped her get set up with recruiting and has made them a dated schedule with training videos from her clinics I for one am impressedd

It's so sad that the club system has become so bad that doing your job gets praise. It's not rocket science. Communicate!! Treat families with honesty. Treat them as customers/clients. (The are spending a lot of money for a service). Give options, don't fomo them into doing things they may not want to do. Focus on training! Practices are the only way to develop individuals and teams. Do these few simple things and families will be happy and the drama meter drops way down. Thank you Coach T.

Someone should send to her thanking her. Not many coaches doing this anymore

How are the kids who chose to stay with ninety one making out?

Does she have a parent assistant?

Or a dad parent as a “co-coach” , who’s the head coach

Perozzi
Someone get tilts off the chat
Are you talking about the “C” team that almost beat the “A” team and took them to a brave heart and had to have the “A” coach rant and rave until she got her way and the “C” team started the brave heart man down from a penalty that happened in the last 30 seconds of regulation. By the way penalties NEVER carry over to a Braveheart but I know you know this already
Please!
Which Jester’s team is their
“A” team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you talking about the “C” team that almost beat the “A” team and took them to a brave heart and had to have the “A” coach rant and rave until she got her way and the “C” team started the brave heart man down from a penalty that happened in the last 30 seconds of regulation. By the way penalties NEVER carry over to a Braveheart but I know you know this already

That game was a total joke. Was a total fluke, due to how the coaches were playing the girls on “A”. Not even in their normal positions. Was a short game and the coaches messed up and not sure what they were thinking? Almost had egg on their faces for that kind of coaching. They Almost got out-coached by the “C” coaches. Kudus to the “C” coaches. But, seriously we know where the best players are when they are played properly. There would be a blowout between those two teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Jester’s team is their
“A” team?

I believe the one with the 91 coach acquisition and daddy co-coach - not sure of the color
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

We just left her clinic she’s literally been training for the past few hours I can assure you I was on the field watching her with my kid relax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Jester’s team is their
“A” team?

I believe the one with the 91 coach acquisition and daddy co-coach - not sure of the color

Jesters black is Tilts and a jesters director who coached college lacrosse according to the website
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you talking about the “C” team that almost beat the “A” team and took them to a brave heart and had to have the “A” coach rant and rave until she got her way and the “C” team started the brave heart man down from a penalty that happened in the last 30 seconds of regulation. By the way penalties NEVER carry over to a Braveheart but I know you know this already

That game was a total joke. Was a total fluke, due to how the coaches were playing the girls on “A”. Not even in their normal positions. Was a short game and the coaches messed up and not sure what they were thinking? Almost had egg on their faces for that kind of coaching. They Almost got out-coached by the “C” coaches. Kudus to the “C” coaches. But, seriously we know where the best players are when they are played properly. There would be a blowout between those two teams

Why are we putting everything in quotes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you talking about the “C” team that almost beat the “A” team and took them to a brave heart and had to have the “A” coach rant and rave until she got her way and the “C” team started the brave heart man down from a penalty that happened in the last 30 seconds of regulation. By the way penalties NEVER carry over to a Braveheart but I know you know this already

That game was a total joke. Was a total fluke, due to how the coaches were playing the girls on “A”. Not even in their normal positions. Was a short game and the coaches messed up and not sure what they were thinking? Almost had egg on their faces for that kind of coaching. They Almost got out-coached by the “C” coaches. Kudus to the “C” coaches. But, seriously we know where the best players are when they are played properly. There would be a blowout between those two teams

Why are we putting everything in quotes

Because abc teams aren’t actually a thing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.
It was actually the D team. Not the c team. Just don’t forget the A-Team went on to win the whole tournament. They were playing the first game for fun. Bench the whole attack to try to get them motivated. Almost blew up in their faces. But it didn’t!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was actually the D team. Not the c team. Just don’t forget the A-Team went on to win the whole tournament. They were playing the first game for fun. Bench the whole attack to try to get them motivated. Almost blew up in their faces. But it didn’t!

It certainly almost did - due to bad coaching decisions. That Would have been embarrassing for that club for sure. The right team ended up playing for the championship. Brought home the backpacks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win
There is definitely A B C D YJ. I think Kildare and O’Sullivan may have to battle out the bottom 2. Ramos Is a solid team and played a lot of their games in the proper brackets. YJ never plays in the proper bracket. Kildare played down most of the time and O’Sullivan played all games in easy brackets. I agree the wiener game was a fluke. That team would easily beat O’Sullivan.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

91 has good marketing which is why they troll BOTC. Can't let word get out that they spend more time pretending to be good than doing anything good for their athletes.
I heard some major shakeups were coming to the abcd teams. Tryouts should be interesting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard some major shakeups were coming to the abcd teams. Tryouts should be interesting

You heard from? Were they Credible sources, close to the Queen herself. Do tell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.


No, you just want to know because you are a pathetic troll. You need to have more in your life than kids sports. Pretty sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.


No, you just want to know because you are a pathetic troll. You need to have more in your life than kids sports. Pretty sad.


If you look back there is no one defending her because there isn’t anything bad to say about her. The worst the girl has ever done is bring people from other clubs into the program as I’m sure she was asked to do as a director. She isn’t an assistant on jesters she is taking on the entire 24 class for the club.

She left 91 because her only reason for coaching was for the kids and something that happened must have made her feel like that wasn’t the goal for every party involved. If you were at the tryout you could hear the 91 woman at the tent on the phone with her begging her not to quit. She may not be our coach anymore but she is our family. The only reason we’re still at 91 is distance of jesters from our hometown and the fact that our daughters friends are on the team.

If you aren’t a 91 rep, coach, or competitor and are in fact a parent I urge you to reach out to her for anything on her social media email or whatever info you can find and make your own judgements because she really is one of a kind and changed my daughters life.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard some major shakeups were coming to the abcd teams. Tryouts should be interesting

Carol giving you details ?
She is a class act, and left a program that seems to value the boys teams more? She is now at an all girls club and I think it will be a great fit for her and Jesters. The girls are going to love having her for a coach as long as her daddy co-coach doesn’t ruin it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.

She’s a phenomenal coach and person. Don’t entertain a single rumor that says anything other than the fact that she left the club because she didn’t believe kids were treated properly with the merger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.

She’s a phenomenal coach and person. Don’t entertain a single rumor that says anything other than the fact that she left the club because she didn’t believe kids were treated properly with the merger

If you go to the old 2024 thread you’ll see that ninety one lied to parents and coaches to get them all to come back and once all the kids were too deep to go back dropped a bunch of bombs and gave them two parents coaches one of whom got fired from yellow jackets and has a terrible track record. One person called her a “cancer.” After all the drama went down with the parent coaches complaining and yelling at the event tent during tryouts and Tilts figured out the lies she left the program.
Refs were true hometown refs. Refs from Baltimore should not ref a championship game of there own region. Gave them at least 10 free positions.
So what’s happening to YJ? No one every elaborated
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So what’s happening to YJ? No one every elaborated

Kildare told kids that the club was cutting kids this year
Wow… that sounds crazy!!! Or maybe it just sounds like a tryout????

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So what’s happening to YJ? No one every elaborated

Kildare told kids that the club was cutting kids this year[/quote]
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Wow… that sounds crazy!!! Or maybe it just sounds like a tryout????

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So what’s happening to YJ? No one every elaborated

Kildare told kids that the club was cutting kids this year
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It’s weird she’d cut when her players are all trying out elsewhere
Not for nothing but all three of those coaches work extremely hard and are very respected by the girls on that team. They are all class acts and everyone, players and parents, should feel lucky that our girls get to play for them. The fact that a grown adult could publicly call their child’s coach, a fantastic coach for that matter, a cancer is upsetting. My daughter is the player she is today because she’s been lucky enough to have the three of them. Each one has taught her something different and I wouldn’t want it any other way. -Cindy Hall (since I don’t know how to make this non anonymous)
YJ will not cut kids. Shuffle them around and make a E team maybe, but cut… please. Too greedy to cut and that is what the brand has become. Juggernaut of greed.
How is the Liberty 2024 team?
How are the Liberty 2024s
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Not for nothing but all three of those coaches work extremely hard and are very respected by the girls on that team. They are all class acts and everyone, players and parents, should feel lucky that our girls get to play for them. The fact that a grown adult could publicly call their child’s coach, a fantastic coach for that matter, a cancer is upsetting. My daughter is the player she is today because she’s been lucky enough to have the three of them. Each one has taught her something different and I wouldn’t want it any other way. -Cindy Hall (since I don’t know how to make this non anonymous)

Is your husband her assistant ? Doesn’t seem like anyone on here has had anything negative to say about him, just the female coach.

If the team loved their experience, why did so many players leave the team then and why are those that left openly talking about how terrible of an experience it was with other players parents ?
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How is the Liberty 2024 team?

Pretty good honestly
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YJ will not cut kids. Shuffle them around and make a E team maybe, but cut… please. Too greedy to cut and that is what the brand has become. Juggernaut of greed.

Seems to be the message for this year though
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Not for nothing but all three of those coaches work extremely hard and are very respected by the girls on that team. They are all class acts and everyone, players and parents, should feel lucky that our girls get to play for them. The fact that a grown adult could publicly call their child’s coach, a fantastic coach for that matter, a cancer is upsetting. My daughter is the player she is today because she’s been lucky enough to have the three of them. Each one has taught her something different and I wouldn’t want it any other way. -Cindy Hall (since I don’t know how to make this non anonymous)

Your hubby may be a class act but there is clearly a long line of history and drama that follows Pirozzi.
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Not for nothing but all three of those coaches work extremely hard and are very respected by the girls on that team. They are all class acts and everyone, players and parents, should feel lucky that our girls get to play for them. The fact that a grown adult could publicly call their child’s coach, a fantastic coach for that matter, a cancer is upsetting. My daughter is the player she is today because she’s been lucky enough to have the three of them. Each one has taught her something different and I wouldn’t want it any other way. -Cindy Hall (since I don’t know how to make this non anonymous)

Is your husband her assistant ? Doesn’t seem like anyone on here has had anything negative to say about him, just the female coach.

If the team loved their experience, why did so many players leave the team then and why are those that left openly talking about how terrible of an experience it was with other players parents ?


So all 3 coaches are great and have taught the girls what true team work is! Ppl keep saying so many girls left the team when it’s was a couple of girls who never showed up to practice and who we’re obviously not the same level as the rest of the girls. Their main sport was soccer. Also they would have not made the A team so ppl sound so notIntelligent. Now on to Kristen it’s very obvious that we have a couple disgruntled parents who have it out for her on here. She’s been my daughters coach for years and has never been anything but a positive GREAT coach! She has tons of experience and as far as saying she gives her daughter special treatment is another joke. Her kid is good therefore she plays!! People on here should worry about putting their daughters where they will thrive and stop spreading fake nonsense! All 3 coaches are great people no less great coaches! Kristen is far from a cancer it’s actually sad people keep speaking so badly about a great person/coach. Move on ppl.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ will not cut kids. Shuffle them around and make a E team maybe, but cut… please. Too greedy to cut and that is what the brand has become. Juggernaut of greed.

Seems to be the message for this year though

Totally all about $. No practices but lots of $ for training options. It's changed. Kind of sad.
My Daughter has played for these three coaches for years ! All three are class acts , they treat the girls with respect and dignity, there is no belittling or berating. They actually coach the girls up and continue to fix and tweak what needs addressing. Yes , a few girls left to pursue soccer, and a few were moved to the B or C team. That’s travel lacrosse , it happens everywhere. All three coaches are high school coaches and two of them are former college players , what else could you want ? Disgruntled parents are also part of travel lacrosse unfortunately, loyalty and honesty are unfortunately not . My family feels very fortunate to have these three coaches as a role model for my daughter .
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My Daughter has played for these three coaches for years ! All three are class acts , they treat the girls with respect and dignity, there is no belittling or berating. They actually coach the girls up and continue to fix and tweak what needs addressing. Yes , a few girls left to pursue soccer, and a few were moved to the B or C team. That’s travel lacrosse , it happens everywhere. All three coaches are high school coaches and two of them are former college players , what else could you want ? Disgruntled parents are also part of travel lacrosse unfortunately, loyalty and honesty are unfortunately not . My family feels very fortunate to have these three coaches as a role model for my daughter .

This is a joke right? You have this coaches wife publicly announce herself and the stream of posts at the same time sayin the same thing. Do you think we’re all stunads? Clearly mommy and daddy found these posts and pulled the family and friends deal to get a few reviews. I HOPE the parents of kids who left hop on here and say what they’re saying to the rest of the lacrosse community because they didn’t leave for soccer. They left because the coaching was horrific. They left because there are A players playing on a B team to get away from those coaches. My daughter played for Pirozzi on jackets and it was a horrible experience. She was fired. You should have seen the nastiness produced by that family. Completely toxic and still is. So whoever you got to stick up for you, make sure you play their kid a little extra because you sure won’t get it from many others.
“A” players playing on “B” ?? More like “B” players playing at the appropriate level , sounds like your kid was not getting playing time at YJ and your still sour 😂
You seem to think you know an awful lot about a program your doesn’t even play for , doesn’t seem pathetic at all .
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“A” players playing on “B” ?? More like “B” players playing at the appropriate level , sounds like your kid was not getting playing time at YJ and your still sour 😂
You seem to think you know an awful lot about a program your doesn’t even play for , doesn’t seem pathetic at all .

Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
“A” players playing on “B” ?? More like “B” players playing at the appropriate level , sounds like your kid was not getting playing time at YJ and your still sour 😂
You seem to think you know an awful lot about a program your doesn’t even play for , doesn’t seem pathetic at all .

Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies


What’s the joke is to following abs commenting on teams your daughter doesn’t play on. Someone needs a hobby!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
“A” players playing on “B” ?? More like “B” players playing at the appropriate level , sounds like your kid was not getting playing time at YJ and your still sour 😂
You seem to think you know an awful lot about a program your doesn’t even play for , doesn’t seem pathetic at all .

Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies


What’s the joke is to following abs commenting on teams your daughter doesn’t play on. Someone needs a hobby!


You’re clearly new here. This website is all about people talking about different teams.
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My Daughter has played for these three coaches for years ! All three are class acts , they treat the girls with respect and dignity, there is no belittling or berating. They actually coach the girls up and continue to fix and tweak what needs addressing. Yes , a few girls left to pursue soccer, and a few were moved to the B or C team. That’s travel lacrosse , it happens everywhere. All three coaches are high school coaches and two of them are former college players , what else could you want ? Disgruntled parents are also part of travel lacrosse unfortunately, loyalty and honesty are unfortunately not . My family feels very fortunate to have these three coaches as a role model for my daughter .

don't be shy, drop your name coachys wife did
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies[/quote]

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?[/quote]

I think Tilts and 91 are fine. She still tags them in videos of kids she trains from the program and has been positive about them on social media.

I think that when she left , news hit and it drew more attention to the club because she is heavily involved in training a lot of players and her name is familiar. Knowing that different coaches are with 91 after her departure it seems their names are just more public now because Tilts shift in teams drew attention to coaches that are still with the program. Being a coach that is a known name where she coaches and why is very public. Her quitting made the whole situation more public than if any joe shmow quit.

Our family has worked with Tilts and she was always awesome great energy and passion. I don’t know the other coaches and have nothing negative to say about them. It’s sad that she felt she needed to leave but our family understood. She will be missed but the kids are almost done so they should hopefully be ok.

Not the original poster but here is my two sense. 91 has always been a very strong boy program trying to defend the girls. They have gotten kids a recruited to lower level schools but it was never been at the top of the pecking order for Long Island lax. Bandits has always been a bottom ranked organization. 91 combining with them as partners makes me skeptical on what was happening internally at 91 that they felt the need to merge with a lower level club.

It’s just lacrosse. Coaches wives publicly getting involved is bad press for the club and for those coaches. I don’t have any bad experiences with them but it is a bit concerning that is the partner of my daughters future mentor who came on here and acted this way.
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Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?[/quote]

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ will not cut kids. Shuffle them around and make a E team maybe, but cut… please. Too greedy to cut and that is what the brand has become. Juggernaut of greed.

Seems to be the message for this year though

Have other YJ coaches other than Alyssa said anything about cuts!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back![/quote]

What made it a disaster ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back!

What made it a disaster ?[/quote]

* They do poor tournaments and play in weak divisions
* They have many girls who can’t even catch and throw
* They try to market, and charge$ following the 91 brand piggybacking on the boys success. Not the same conversation.
* They have folded many teams and combined with YJ. The majority of the girls disappeared.
* They have never recruited any girls to top college programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back!

What made it a disaster ?[/quote]

I think there’s a lot more to the story that isn’t being told.
Why did all of the better players stay with 91 2024?
It’s true that 91 had some nice families last year but their performance on the field was on the lower level.
I wish everyone well but the bashing that is going on here is out of control. Seems like somebody is trying to settle a score.
What too recruiting fall tournaments are 24s going to?
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Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


What happened between 91 and this Jesters assistant coach? And why is she on here defending her reputation?

Seems ugly, just want to know the scoop for the sake of the kids.


No, you just want to know because you are a pathetic troll. You need to have more in your life than kids sports. Pretty sad.


Sounds like a clash of immovable forces that ended badly for at least one of them.

Is this what youth sports has become?

Families pay a lot of money and have to deal with either self serving parent coaches or non-parent coaches who use playing time/roster sports as leverage to force you to hire them as trainers.
This is a tremendous conflict of interest.
Sadly, this is many clubs in most team sports.
When this dynamic exists it creates a circus that is unhealthy for the young athletes.

Either way, the back and forth mud slinging between combatants while showing support for themselves by telling stories via the perspective of a parent is a ruse.
Entertaining for sure but fake.
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[quote=Anonymous]Someone get tilts off the chat

91 coaches still on here trying to make it seem like Tilts is the enemy what they don’t realize is she trains kids from every single club and most of those clubs laugh in 91s face for thinking they’re a good girls club…. You lost an asset get over it there’s a reason the chick has a steady stream of kids coming to her. Maybe focus more on the girls side and less on having your workers troll the internet

Nothing ever nice is said on here other the how great tilts is. Haven’t seen much of anyone bashing her on here. That being said 91 will be just fine they have some very good players.

Seems like the kids she trains love her, the parents love her and Jesters are lucky to get her for their 24s. Good luck to her and her new team. It’s a Win, win


No, you just want to know because you are a pathetic troll. You need to have more in your life than kids sports. Pretty sad.


Sounds like a clash of immovable forces that ended badly for at least one of them.

Is this what youth sports has become?

Families pay a lot of money and have to deal with either self serving parent coaches or non-parent coaches who use playing time/roster sports as leverage to force you to hire them as trainers.
This is a tremendous conflict of interest.
Sadly, this is many clubs in most team sports.
When this dynamic exists it creates a circus that is unhealthy for the young athletes.

Either way, the back and forth mud slinging between combatants while showing support for themselves by telling stories via the perspective of a parent is a ruse.
Entertaining for sure but fake.

I'm one of the parents who wrote about Tilts. No way to prove it short of putting my name out there, which I won't do to spare my daughter from the embarrassment of her dad writing on here. She really is fantastic. I don't know about any other coaches and have no gain by badmouthing them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back!

What made it a disaster ?

* They do poor tournaments and play in weak divisions
* They have many girls who can’t even catch and throw
* They try to market, and charge$ following the 91 brand piggybacking on the boys success. Not the same conversation.
* They have folded many teams and combined with YJ. The majority of the girls disappeared.
* They have never recruited any girls to top college programs.[/quote]

The exception here is stony brook
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits was a joke … 91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge. Good luck with these crazies

Wow, must’ve been an ugly divorce between 91 and Tilts. It’s been Harsh words for a few weeks and going strong. Seems like 91 coaches are being personally attacked and now they are attempting to defend themselves.

When you say “91 was on the brink of one and they just went way over the edge….”
Can you be more specific? What happened and what are you alluding to? I think this is the question many would like to know. Was this prior to the new coaches taking over?

91 has been, and always will be a low-level team. My daughter actually played there when she was younger, and it is a disaster. Do not do it! Stay away if you are actually hoping your daughter can eventually play lacrosse at a good college. We left early and never looked back!

What made it a disaster ?

* They do poor tournaments and play in weak divisions
* They have many girls who can’t even catch and throw
* They try to market, and charge$ following the 91 brand piggybacking on the boys success. Not the same conversation.
* They have folded many teams and combined with YJ. The majority of the girls disappeared.
* They have never recruited any girls to top college programs.

The exception here is stony brook[/quote]

Also a clear change in the program circa 18 months ago. Not sure helps for 2024s but the younger age groups are going to be very strong.
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What too recruiting fall tournaments are 24s going to?

Bump
Positive here is that if this Perozzi chick really is that bad she publically got called out for it and will likely try an do the exact opposite now that people blew up her spot.
Liberty seems to have taken a lot of new players. Anyone have any idea how many are rostered now?
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Positive here is that if this Perozzi chick really is that bad she publically got called out for it and will likely try an do the exact opposite now that people blew up her spot.


We get it your daughter didn’t play move on already!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Positive here is that if this Perozzi chick really is that bad she publically got called out for it and will likely try an do the exact opposite now that people blew up her spot.


We get it your daughter didn’t play move on already!

This is funny. She did play actually, she just hated one of her coaches.
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Liberty seems to have taken a lot of new players. Anyone have any idea how many are rostered now?

A lot of programs seemed to really shift their top teams. If you think about it elevate lost at least 6, 91 crossfire became the A team with a few bandits kids, liberty took a bunch of new kids, top guns lost 5-6 to other programs, Jackets are stating big cuts this year yet Kildare already promised a goalie and field player a spot on their team. Not sure what happened with legacy, recon, or jesters but I’m assuming if every other club had big shifts that means some of those players may have shown up to those tryouts.
I heard the 91 A team got rid of the deadwood and added a few actual descent players ? Any truth to this ? Or was your kid one of the kids let go and your still bitter ?
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy
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I heard the 91 A team got rid of the deadwood and added a few actual descent players ? Any truth to this ? Or was your kid one of the kids let go and your still bitter ?

I think they only got rid of 4 kids?
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A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

The jesters kids that left were b and c players or kids who were cut from a. Kids on AA were cut for new talent that tried out. Recon will likely fall apart. The A team for 91 is the crossfire roster with 5 kids cut and 5-6 bandits players according to a friend on the team. Legacy wanted a b team but it didn’t seem to workout and 91s c team fell apart. Elevate is going downhill quickly. Not sure if yellow jackets politics will allow a change to be made. Did Recon fold yet? What about flg?
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A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

The jesters kids that left were b and c players or kids who were cut from a. Kids on AA were cut for new talent that tried out. Recon will likely fall apart. The A team for 91 is the crossfire roster with 5 kids cut and 5-6 bandits players according to a friend on the team. Legacy wanted a b team but it didn’t seem to workout and 91s c team fell apart. Elevate is going downhill quickly. Not sure if yellow jackets politics will allow a change to be made. Did Recon fold yet? What about flg?

Not many left flg that I know of
Such a shame when politics get in the way . Heard Liberty made a lot of additions- some surprising.
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Such a shame when politics get in the way . Heard Liberty made a lot of additions- some surprising.

Not sure all of their pick ups were smart choices
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A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.
Good points. In such an important year, seems you might be better off with the smaller organization where the director can vouch for your kid than the one that may not even know who your kid is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.


Not many clubs give fair playing time anymore, especially if the coaches child is on the team. Let’s be very honest here that the only reason they’re coaching is to get their kid the upper hand. Don’t think for one second that those coaches won’t put their kid ahead of everyone else’s when recruiting madras kicks in.


91s crossfire team was a solid low A high B team in tournaments. With so many kids running from the program the last few years, it’s a wonder they even still had a team last year. They pulled it off well for the cards they were given. A few of those bandits players were decent, but why would the coaches get rid of almost their entire A bandits roster ?

I think FLG only lost a few. They also absorbed blue devils so that will give them some numbers. Seems a lot of the smaller clubs are being eaten up by the “bigger” yet failing clubs.

Liberty made some shocking choices in new kids they picked up. Team is likely much weaker this year. Jesters picked up some top kids from other programs which led them to have to cut some weaker ones from last years roster.

Top guns made a lot of roster changes, but I don’t personally think it will help them much. For the first time in many years they have a team that is quickly sinking and they’re grasping at anything to save their reputation.

Legacy seems to be the only club holding steady right now
I heard Bandits A team kept 8-9 top kids, dropped the rest and they also grabbed the top players from Crossfire to make a true A team. I heard some got cut and some moved to lower teams. The Bandits A team was solid in A bracket tournament play , Crossfire was also solid in B/C level tournament play but not sure how good they really were since they played in low brackets last few years . I guess we will see in the future .
Now your playing on the YJ D team and never looking back or getting playing time lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Bandits A team kept 8-9 top kids, dropped the rest and they also grabbed the top players from Crossfire to make a true A team. I heard some got cut and some moved to lower teams. The Bandits A team was solid in A bracket tournament play , Crossfire was also solid in B/C level tournament play but not sure how good they really were since they played in low brackets last few years . I guess we will see in the future .

My daughter players YJ but according to a friend on the team. If you were to go back and look at the tournament brackets crossfire played A and AA all summer except for one tournament ? Bandits A played b and c? Their b team played in D. The new “A” team also has 7 bandits kids two of which are the coaches kids and the rest are crossfire. From what I was told believe 12 and some of those offered A spots chose to leave 91. Only 5 crossfire kids were not given an A spot. Again this is all coming from a parent, I’m not actually a part of the team so my info could be wrong but I was told no one from crossfire was cut out of the program. Any crossfire players no longer playing for the club chose to leave the program supposedly.

At the end of the day, no matter what kids get combined that team didn’t gain any new players from other clubs. They pulled kids from two b-c level teams. No matter what bracket they played in, neither team beat any teams worth mentioning. They both played truthfully poor teams.

Anyone whose been around the block knows that none of those kids are going to a top school wearing that jersey and playing in my lacrosse tournaments. We’ve been telling our friends there to come to YJ for years.
Your not a parent lol , you sure sound like a disgruntled parent . The Bandits A team played A bracket tournament
S all year , Crossfire played B every tournament. 11 Bandits players and 11 Crossfire players makes up the new team. I’m sure your friend ( air quotes ) will listen to your wisdom . You sure know a awful lot about a program and games they played for someone being informed by a friend . You sound completely foolish and you clearly are a disgruntled parent with a grudge .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your not a parent lol , you sure sound like a disgruntled parent . The Bandits A team played A bracket tournament
S all year , Crossfire played B every tournament. 11 Bandits players and 11 Crossfire players makes up the new team. I’m sure your friend ( air quotes ) will listen to your wisdom . You sure know a awful lot about a program and games they played for someone being informed by a friend . You sound completely foolish and you clearly are a disgruntled parent with a grudge .

If it makes you feel better to think my kid is in the program, so be it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.

2024 is a crucial year. Some advice to anyone picking a club.
Do your research and ask questions. Go to a practice or game unannounced and watch,,see who’s running it and how the coaches talk to the girls. How does the coach present themselves and are they a good role model?. What is the coaches experience with Women’s lacrosse? and dealing with college coaches and recruiting? Parent coaches are generally a problem. So, ask who the head coach is? Who are the assistant coaches? if they are parents,, what position does their daughter play?
If it’s a new coach, ask what happened to the last coach and why were they were replaced? And where did the new coach come from and why did she leave their last job?
Training, professional coaching and field time is most important.
You are paying a lot of money so don’t be afraid to ask too many questions. An educated consumer is going to make smart decisions.
I gotta agree with the other comment, you seem awfully invested considering your kid supposedly plays for another program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.

2024 is a crucial year. Some advice to anyone picking a club.
Do your research and ask questions. Go to a practice or game unannounced and watch,,see who’s running it and how the coaches talk to the girls. How does the coach present themselves and are they a good role model?. What is the coaches experience with Women’s lacrosse? and dealing with college coaches and recruiting? Parent coaches are generally a problem. So, ask who the head coach is? Who are the assistant coaches? if they are parents,, what position does their daughter play?
If it’s a new coach, ask what happened to the last coach and why were they were replaced? And where did the new coach come from and why did she leave their last job?
Training, professional coaching and field time is most important.
You are paying a lot of money so don’t be afraid to ask too many questions. An educated consumer is going to make smart decisions.

This is so accurate. If you actually want to know what’s going on you have to see it for yourself
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.

2024 is a crucial year. Some advice to anyone picking a club.
Do your research and ask questions. Go to a practice or game unannounced and watch,,see who’s running it and how the coaches talk to the girls. How does the coach present themselves and are they a good role model?. What is the coaches experience with Women’s lacrosse? and dealing with college coaches and recruiting? Parent coaches are generally a problem. So, ask who the head coach is? Who are the assistant coaches? if they are parents,, what position does their daughter play?
If it’s a new coach, ask what happened to the last coach and why were they were replaced? And where did the new coach come from and why did she leave their last job?
Training, professional coaching and field time is most important.
You are paying a lot of money so don’t be afraid to ask too many questions. An educated consumer is going to make smart decisions.

This is so accurate. If you actually want to know what’s going on you have to see it for yourself

I would do your best to avoid parent coaches. In my experience They're generally over the top and make the whole experience exhausting.
How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor

Connectlax.com lists most of the events
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor

BOTC will sometimes have them listed under EVENTS

I also get emails for various upcoming showcases and my daughter's coach will mention certain ones to her.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor

BOTC will sometimes have them listed under EVENTS

I also get emails for various upcoming showcases and my daughter's coach will mention certain ones to her.

Forgot to add in the forums too: Tournaments, Showcases and Leagues
I’m a little confused why people are playing for low tier clubs with no recruiting connections and parent coaches. For example: how or why do people still play for recon, shore 2 shore, FLG, and 91? Even if you look at their train of recruits there is no notable schools. There is a reason most lose their talent to better programs as they get older.

I’m genuinely curious why parents choose to stick by those programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m a little confused why people are playing for low tier clubs with no recruiting connections and parent coaches. For example: how or why do people still play for recon, shore 2 shore, FLG, and 91? Even if you look at their train of recruits there is no notable schools. There is a reason most lose their talent to better programs as they get older.

I’m genuinely curious why parents choose to stick by those programs.

Not every player is looking to play in college. i know girls on these teams who play because they enjoy the game and the camaraderie. For some, this is their second sport/activity and but their primary.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every player is looking to play in college. i know girls on these teams who play because they enjoy the game and the camaraderie. For some, this is their second sport/activity and but their primary.

supposed to read “not their primary.” darn autocorrect
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every player is looking to play in college. i know girls on these teams who play because they enjoy the game and the camaraderie. For some, this is their second sport/activity and but their primary.

supposed to read “not their primary.” darn autocorrect

I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not every player is looking to play in college. i know girls on these teams who play because they enjoy the game and the camaraderie. For some, this is their second sport/activity and but their primary.

supposed to read “not their primary.” darn autocorrect

I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

I think you should know by 6th grade if your daughter is serious enough to want to play in college and you should kind of know her abilities and commitment by then? Then you will know if it warrants trying to get on a more serious team? She will need to try and make a move to one of the more serious teams before HS age. It gets harder and harder as you approach 9th grade. 10th grade is when the recruiting starts and teams seem pretty much set, With a few exceptions. Just depends on how serious and committed a kid wants to be in the sport? Other than that, if a kid just wants to play for the enjoyment of the sport, Then that’s awesome! It’s great on LI we have plenty of different clubs that suit every type of player! We are lucky.
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.[/quote]

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.[/quote]


So showcases don’t matter? No matter what club a child plays on if they are good and the talent is there they will be known or seen! I have known many of kids who have played for the top clubs, a lot just on the roster never seeing the field and never touched the field in college. So does just wearing the gear get your child a scholarship and playing time? I have also known children who could have been on the A team at the top clubs but chose to go with a different club because of the coaching and not wanting to deal with the politics and guess what they all got d1 scholarships and actually played in college. I will say it’s obvious that the top club attracts top players but that does not mean they are the only top kids looked at! They have more exposure from a big club but talent will get you the best exposure! Go where your child is happy and fits. That’s where they will excel and do their best. That’s the end goal happy children not happy fathers living through their kids!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.[/quote]

Only one d1 commitment from their two 2022 teams and that was a stony brook kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.

Only one d1 commitment from their two 2022 teams and that was a stony brook kid[/quote]

And she is a Goalie.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.


So showcases don’t matter? No matter what club a child plays on if they are good and the talent is there they will be known or seen! I have known many of kids who have played for the top clubs, a lot just on the roster never seeing the field and never touched the field in college. So does just wearing the gear get your child a scholarship and playing time? I have also known children who could have been on the A team at the top clubs but chose to go with a different club because of the coaching and not wanting to deal with the politics and guess what they all got d1 scholarships and actually played in college. I will say it’s obvious that the top club attracts top players but that does not mean they are the only top kids looked at! They have more exposure from a big club but talent will get you the best exposure! Go where your child is happy and fits. That’s where they will excel and do their best. That’s the end goal happy children not happy fathers living through their kids![/quote]

Have you been to a showcase? It's usually 75-100 girls of mixed grades - complete mayhem. Unless the Coach invited your daughter and you had a conversation prior to the event, it is highly unlikely that your Diamond in the Rough will be seen. Top clubs contact coaches and let them know your level of interest. The landscape is changing and alot of these young NCAA Coaches have all played for, or know the rep, of the top clubs. The branding and marketing of these clubs will trump your no-name superstar who is trying to do it alone, everyday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.


So showcases don’t matter? No matter what club a child plays on if they are good and the talent is there they will be known or seen! I have known many of kids who have played for the top clubs, a lot just on the roster never seeing the field and never touched the field in college. So does just wearing the gear get your child a scholarship and playing time? I have also known children who could have been on the A team at the top clubs but chose to go with a different club because of the coaching and not wanting to deal with the politics and guess what they all got d1 scholarships and actually played in college. I will say it’s obvious that the top club attracts top players but that does not mean they are the only top kids looked at! They have more exposure from a big club but talent will get you the best exposure! Go where your child is happy and fits. That’s where they will excel and do their best. That’s the end goal happy children not happy fathers living through their kids!

Have you been to a showcase? It's usually 75-100 girls of mixed grades - complete mayhem. Unless the Coach invited your daughter and you had a conversation prior to the event, it is highly unlikely that your Diamond in the Rough will be seen. Top clubs contact coaches and let them know your level of interest. The landscape is changing and alot of these young NCAA Coaches have all played for, or know the rep, of the top clubs. The branding and marketing of these clubs will trump your no-name superstar who is trying to do it alone, everyday.[/quote]

Even if you’re crazy talented if you don’t have a coach or club connected to the recruiting world and right tournaments you’re in trouble.
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time


2024 Girls rankings…
Somebody posted that YJ D is only 5 below TG?
Not quite at least yet because …
Top Guns Black is 59
Yellow jackets D is 74

Neither ranking is very good and a high ranking doesn’t mean the org will do a good job of getting your athlete a look.

What’s going on at TG 2024? And YJ 2024?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

And, how do you know this as YJ tryouts have not even happened yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

They pulled up the b goalie.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

It’s funny they went to Kildare considering so much of that team was unhappy half the roster tried out elsewhere. Also funny Kildare can promise a kid a spot on there roster but tell the team cuts will be made at tryouts . I gusss that yellowjackets has no interest in moving kids up and down who deserve to be moved
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big
Promised a spot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. .

That team has been done for awhile. Most of the their best players left 2 years ago. Prior to that they had a pretty competitive team. They were not very good this year and played low level tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Stop it!!!

No they didnt

Who did they pick up?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Stop it!!!

No they didnt

Who did they pick up?


Elevate lost their goalie, their two best middies, and their best defender
Where did they go?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Stop it!!!

No they didnt
[/quote]

Elevate lost their goalie, their two best middies, and their best defender[/quote]

Yes..Elevate lost a few players.
The objection was to the fake news being spread by the self promoting Super Fan.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where did they go?

Goalie and a mid promised a spot on Kildare before tryouts. Two defenders to jesters. A middie to liberty.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper

TG picked up another goalie.
It’s cute Kildare is promising new kids spots. Basically tells you YJ has their mind made up before kids step on the field
What’s scary is your talking about a D team lol if your kid is on the D team , it might be time to move on and stop giving away all your money to YJ
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper

TG picked up another goalie.

Draw girl only as good as her wings.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper

TG picked up another goalie.

Draw girl only as good as her wings.

There are 7 or 8 new girls on 2024 TG Black. Nobody knows how good or bad that team will be until the spring when they have had time to practice together.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper

TG picked up another goalie.

Is she any good?
She looked very good at tryouts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She looked very good at tryouts

How’s the returning goalie?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She looked very good at tryouts

How’s the returning goalie?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She looked very good at tryouts

How’s the returning goalie?

Who’s asking, and why?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big


Agreed both teams are going to be much stronger. I’d look out for both rosters making needed cuts and bringing in strong talent
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

Wow, this must be a really bitter person who stayed at 91 and is now really regretting it!? Already missing Tilts? I think you are starting to realize Jesters team got the committed “sane” non parent coach. Good luck with the craziness on your team. Tilts will be a great coach and the girls she coaches are very lucky and will benefit from her commitment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

Tilts self-promotes because that's her side gig. You don't make money without advertising/promoting and in regards to parents signing up, it's not FOMO...it's called Word of Mouth.

What does the school she played for or her college stats have to do with anything??? IMO, that has no bearing on what kind of coach you'll be. You could have been a stud player and stink as a coach. You could have never played the sport, but be an awesome coach. There's no correlation.

Tilts gives 110% to her girls and unless you've had the opportunity to train with or play for her, you wouldn't understand.
Ramos is ranked about liberty and legacy? Those two teams would kill them…
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

Wow, this must be a really bitter person who stayed at 91 and is now really regretting it!? Already missing Tilts? I think you are starting to realize Jesters team got the committed “sane” non parent coach. Good luck with the craziness on your team. Tilts will be a great coach and the girls she coaches are very lucky and will benefit from her commitment.

Not even sure how a post about Liberty and Jesters turned into talk about coaches again. My child played on elevate and my post about jesters and liberty getting stronger was because my daughters friends went to both those teams and they’re good players. I’ve heard nothing but positive things about coaches on both teams. Sorry my commentary seems to have rubbed someone the wrong way. I would also assume that whoever turned it into an attack has something personal to gain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

Tilts self-promotes because that's her side gig. You don't make money without advertising/promoting and in regards to parents signing up, it's not FOMO...it's called Word of Mouth.

What does the school she played for or her college stats have to do with anything??? IMO, that has no bearing on what kind of coach you'll be. You could have been a stud player and stink as a coach. You could have never played the sport, but be an awesome coach. There's no correlation.

Tilts gives 110% to her girls and unless you've had the opportunity to train with or play for her, you wouldn't understand.

The majority of people who train or run a club promote. Half of her social media is also for players to get more attention. Have you ever sent a kid to her training? The girls ask to be put on social media and when she does lives and college coaches join she says their names in the live to help promote them. Until you’ve met her and spoken to her you really have no idea what her goals are for those kids.

My daughter goes to her clinics for free because we can’t afford it as a family. She can promote and do whatever she wants on social media. She is a phenomenal young woman.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.
The jealousy and detest on this thread is alarming. There is one troll of a parent, coach, or club on here who really has something to gain by bashing every other coach and club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The explanation of US Club Lacrosse Rankings can be found here: https://www.USCL.com/faq
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


She’s been training my kids for over a year. When I bring up back of the cage, she tells me not to even respond if something negative pops up. We are better off letting one person who has a vendetta try and bad mouth her… that way we keep her a secret for our kids so we don’t need to share her 😅😅
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I’m pretty sure that no one is talking about her leaving 91 anymore, but you seem to have brought it back up because you’re likely still upset about. You also use the same terms “divorce” used in every post to restir this pot for whatever it is you aim to gain.

Being one of the families that chose to stay I can explain why. First off they didn’t fire her, she quit. One reason we stayed is because she openly told us she didn’t want to hurt the club and asked us to accept the spots. She even posted in our parent chat to accept the A spot. Her reasoning was that she couldn’t take the entire roster and cut an entire group of girls from Jesters and put those kids through the same chaos we had to go through. This ultimately led us to stay with 91 because my daughter wanted to stay with her friends and Tilts knew the whole group couldn’t have made it on her new team. From talking to her, we knew that at this age it would be hard to break into any programs “A” team, so she encouraged us to stay with our daughters friends if that is what would make her happy.

You’re talking about a coach who left a program because she didn’t feel that she was living the lessons she had been teaching the kids. If you don’t know the facts, you really shouldn’t be spreading rumors. If you know anyone on that 91 team, feel free to ask them about her. There is not a single parent or child from last years roster that would speak poorly of her. She really did so much for our team.

I have nothing bad to say about the new coaches as we barely know them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I hope you realize that your essentially writing the same thing over and over using the same words and a comma instead of a period. You obviously need a new hobby buddy. She moved clubs get over it. Coaches move around pretty regularly.
Badmouth Tilts? Half of the thread is sponsored by her and her friends
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She looked very good at tryouts

Where did she come from? Like what team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Promised a spot


How can Yj promise spots before a tryout even happens
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I hope you realize that your essentially writing the same thing over and over using the same words and a comma instead of a period. You obviously need a new hobby buddy. She moved clubs get over it. Coaches move around pretty regularly.

Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I hope you realize that your essentially writing the same thing over and over using the same words and a comma instead of a period. You obviously need a new hobby buddy. She moved clubs get over it. Coaches move around pretty regularly.

Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?


91 merged with bandits and two 2024s players parents were parent coaches so they got carried over with the merger.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badmouth Tilts? Half of the thread is sponsored by her and her friends

Her training our kids doesn’t mean we are friends with her?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

This^^ if you aren’t committed to a club yet or can get a refund go where the results speak for themselves
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

This^^ if you aren’t committed to a club yet or can get a refund go where the results speak for themselves

Tilts leaving was the best move she could have made. Look on any thread for years back and you’ll see 91 has never been regarded as a place for girls to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

This^^ if you aren’t committed to a club yet or can get a refund go where the results speak for themselves


Where did 22s commit from
91
Legacy
Top Guns
YJ
??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

This^^ if you aren’t committed to a club yet or can get a refund go where the results speak for themselves

But do keep in mind that the ‘23 girls are an exceptionally talented group. No ‘24 club will match the ‘23 TG and YJ commitments. Legacy and Jesters will have a few top ones too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badmouth Tilts? Half of the thread is sponsored by her and her friends

Exactly!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?


91 merged with bandits and two 2024s players parents were parent coaches so they got carried over with the merger.

The incoming bandits A team was as good and very likely better than the existing 91 Crossfire team, which caused a lot of disagreements about how exactly that should be handled.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

Why wait?!? You can look at the 2022 group and see.
It tells most of the story.
It’s alarming to me but, a few clubs that have been around for a while have very little or nothing to show.
A few newer clubs are already doing some good work. You don’t need a superstar team to do right by your kids.
The Club needs to care, have the connections and put the work in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

How do you find this info?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

Why wait?!? You can look at the 2022 group and see.
It tells most of the story.
It’s alarming to me but, a few clubs that have been around for a while have very little or nothing to show.
A few newer clubs are already doing some good work. You don’t need a superstar team to do right by your kids.
The Club needs to care, have the connections and put the work in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you want to truly see which club is doing recruiting the right way, wait until the end of September and see where the top 2023s in each program go.

Why wait?!? You can look at the 2022 group and see.
It tells most of the story.
It’s alarming to me but, a few clubs that have been around for a while have very little or nothing to show.
A few newer clubs are already doing some good work. You don’t need a superstar team to do right by your kids.
The Club needs to care, have the connections and put the work in.

How can you figure this out? Can you post some of the schools clubs are sending 22s to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.


So what’s the point of them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?


91 merged with bandits and two 2024s players parents were parent coaches so they got carried over with the merger.

The incoming bandits A team was as good and very likely better than the existing 91 Crossfire team, which caused a lot of disagreements about how exactly that should be handled.

Both teams had a few very good players. Even combining them won’t match up to Ramos, Wiener, or even Kildare. They also would likely get pumbled but legacy or top guns. The idea of bandits or crossfire ever being an “A” team is terrifying. Neither of those teams, or a combo of them will compare to other programs top teams. They don’t have the natural talent. The kids from bandits and 91 who stayed for that A team are ending their chance at a top d1 program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?


91 merged with bandits and two 2024s players parents were parent coaches so they got carried over with the merger.

The incoming bandits A team was as good and very likely better than the existing 91 Crossfire team, which caused a lot of disagreements about how exactly that should be handled.

how so? can you elaborate?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone answer the question? Why did 91 replace Tilts?


91 merged with bandits and two 2024s players parents were parent coaches so they got carried over with the merger.

The incoming bandits A team was as good and very likely better than the existing 91 Crossfire team, which caused a lot of disagreements about how exactly that should be handled.

how so? can you elaborate?

That doesn’t seem to be the case if the roster is 50/50 of both team ?
Originally Posted by LaxMomma
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.


So what’s the point of them

They are meant to get people to talk about them...No rankings are perfect, not even College Football so it helps them drive traffic, monetize their site/platforms, etc.

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players allowed would get and I've gone to one College Bound Laxers (CB Laxers) event before and I personally loved it compared to 2 other showcases we tried this summer b/c they are so small (not with 250+ players) and my daughter had great experience.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts as I fee like any exposure is good exposure, especially when coaches are going to be calling kids soon, leaving less scholarships available.. Thank you!


Are these any good? From my understanding the cblaxers stuff is weak
Most teams have tournaments coming out now that tryouts are ending.

Post your club and where you’re going so we can see if the clubs are putting teams in the right events
We’re yellow jackets tryouts moved due to the rain?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by LaxMomma
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The ranking stuff really does seem to be a mess and a lot of the times they make no sense.

How are the calculated? Do they even matter?

The rankings absolutely do not matter.


So what’s the point of them

They are meant to get people to talk about them...No rankings are perfect, not even College Football so it helps them drive traffic, monetize their site/platforms, etc.

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players allowed would get and I've gone to one College Bound Laxers (CB Laxers) event before and I personally loved it compared to 2 other showcases we tried this summer b/c they are so small (not with 250+ players) and my daughter had great experience.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts as I fee like any exposure is good exposure, especially when coaches are going to be calling kids soon, leaving less scholarships available.. Thank you!


Are these any good? From my understanding the cblaxers stuff is weak

They’re decent. Not the best but it’s a good start if you haven’t done much
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We’re yellow jackets tryouts moved due to the rain?

Yes a week delay
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We’re yellow jackets tryouts moved due to the rain?

Why are they always so late?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We’re yellow jackets tryouts moved due to the rain?

Why are they always so late?

All the other clubs have already try outs so when you get placed on the B, C or D team you accept it if you want to play next summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We’re yellow jackets tryouts moved due to the rain?

Why are they always so late?

They used to be in the fall so this is early for them
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Yellow jackets teams except wiener are a dead end at this point
any left??? YJ A and B are the top two teams on LI for the 24s. Kildare is a top 5 team as well.......any talent left??????? it's all at YJ
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Did girls leave the YJ a team for other clubs this year? Maybe ones who didn’t get playing time last year ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Did girls leave the YJ a team for other clubs this year? Maybe ones who didn’t get playing time last year ?

Yes a handful have already accepted spots elsewhere
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Did girls leave the YJ a team for other clubs this year? Maybe ones who didn’t get playing time last year ?

Yes a handful have already accepted spots elsewhere


Not true no one from the A team left
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Yellow jackets teams except wiener are a dead end at this point

Come on man, I have no love for YJ but Ramos and Kildare are both pretty solid teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any top 2024 left at YJ? Seems all the clubs picked up some rly good players, wondering who’s left?

Yellow jackets teams except wiener are a dead end at this point

Come on man, I have no love for YJ but Ramos and Kildare are both pretty solid teams.

What makes you say that?
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I’m pretty sure that no one is talking about her leaving 91 anymore, but you seem to have brought it back up because you’re likely still upset about. You also use the same terms “divorce” used in every post to restir this pot for whatever it is you aim to gain.

Being one of the families that chose to stay I can explain why. First off they didn’t fire her, she quit. One reason we stayed is because she openly told us she didn’t want to hurt the club and asked us to accept the spots. She even posted in our parent chat to accept the A spot. Her reasoning was that she couldn’t take the entire roster and cut an entire group of girls from Jesters and put those kids through the same chaos we had to go through. This ultimately led us to stay with 91 because my daughter wanted to stay with her friends and Tilts knew the whole group couldn’t have made it on her new team. From talking to her, we knew that at this age it would be hard to break into any programs “A” team, so she encouraged us to stay with our daughters friends if that is what would make her happy.

You’re talking about a coach who left a program because she didn’t feel that she was living the lessons she had been teaching the kids. If you don’t know the facts, you really shouldn’t be spreading rumors. If you know anyone on that 91 team, feel free to ask them about her. There is not a single parent or child from last years roster that would speak poorly of her. She really did so much for our team.

I have nothing bad to say about the new coaches as we barely know them.

This was a perfect post. In all of the years that I have been a Lacrosse Parent, former D1 player and a prev.
Club coach on the boys side, Tilts has nothing but the best interests for her girls in mind. She cares. Even for girls that are not on her immediate squad. So to those who constantly bash her here. I’ll simply say, you obviously don’t know her at all - not one iota ...or her culture. I’ll just leave it at that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I’m pretty sure that no one is talking about her leaving 91 anymore, but you seem to have brought it back up because you’re likely still upset about. You also use the same terms “divorce” used in every post to restir this pot for whatever it is you aim to gain.

Being one of the families that chose to stay I can explain why. First off they didn’t fire her, she quit. One reason we stayed is because she openly told us she didn’t want to hurt the club and asked us to accept the spots. She even posted in our parent chat to accept the A spot. Her reasoning was that she couldn’t take the entire roster and cut an entire group of girls from Jesters and put those kids through the same chaos we had to go through. This ultimately led us to stay with 91 because my daughter wanted to stay with her friends and Tilts knew the whole group couldn’t have made it on her new team. From talking to her, we knew that at this age it would be hard to break into any programs “A” team, so she encouraged us to stay with our daughters friends if that is what would make her happy.

You’re talking about a coach who left a program because she didn’t feel that she was living the lessons she had been teaching the kids. If you don’t know the facts, you really shouldn’t be spreading rumors. If you know anyone on that 91 team, feel free to ask them about her. There is not a single parent or child from last years roster that would speak poorly of her. She really did so much for our team.

I have nothing bad to say about the new coaches as we barely know them.

This was a perfect post. In all of the years that I have been a Lacrosse Parent, former D1 player and a prev.
Club coach on the boys side, Tilts has nothing but the best interests for her girls in mind. She cares. Even for girls that are not on her immediate squad. So to those who constantly bash her here. I’ll simply say, you obviously don’t know her at all - not one iota ...or her culture. I’ll just leave it at that.
What does it matter??? She left a team that was mediocre at best to coach a B team at Jesters! Really!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Going to be a lot of unhappy parents with all the movement on ABCD teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters parents drinking the Tilts Kool-aid 😂😂😂 a girl who self promotes on social media and randomly reaches out to random girls to offer training and parents all having a case of FOMO so they sign up, she’ll fit in great with that club😂😂 where did she play again? What was her college stats…SMH

She played at Quinnipiac and holds many records in their stat books, you can find them on the website. This post makes it seem like you have a personal grudge. Did she cut your kid? Taking too much away from your training or club business?

More importantly why do you care if the parents on that team are happy? How do you even know they are ? If they are, leave them be.


OMG-Drama Queen!!!! How does it always get back to this nonsense for you?
This 2024 posting site is riddled with the remnants of TILTS divorce with 91 and both sides trying to settle the score.
Must have been really ugly.
I’m ready what is being said and wondering ,,Why did 91 replace and then fire Tilts? And why didn’t any of the top players follow her?

I’m pretty sure that no one is talking about her leaving 91 anymore, but you seem to have brought it back up because you’re likely still upset about. You also use the same terms “divorce” used in every post to restir this pot for whatever it is you aim to gain.

Being one of the families that chose to stay I can explain why. First off they didn’t fire her, she quit. One reason we stayed is because she openly told us she didn’t want to hurt the club and asked us to accept the spots. She even posted in our parent chat to accept the A spot. Her reasoning was that she couldn’t take the entire roster and cut an entire group of girls from Jesters and put those kids through the same chaos we had to go through. This ultimately led us to stay with 91 because my daughter wanted to stay with her friends and Tilts knew the whole group couldn’t have made it on her new team. From talking to her, we knew that at this age it would be hard to break into any programs “A” team, so she encouraged us to stay with our daughters friends if that is what would make her happy.

You’re talking about a coach who left a program because she didn’t feel that she was living the lessons she had been teaching the kids. If you don’t know the facts, you really shouldn’t be spreading rumors. If you know anyone on that 91 team, feel free to ask them about her. There is not a single parent or child from last years roster that would speak poorly of her. She really did so much for our team.

I have nothing bad to say about the new coaches as we barely know them.

This was a perfect post. In all of the years that I have been a Lacrosse Parent, former D1 player and a prev.
Club coach on the boys side, Tilts has nothing but the best interests for her girls in mind. She cares. Even for girls that are not on her immediate squad. So to those who constantly bash her here. I’ll simply say, you obviously don’t know her at all - not one iota ...or her culture. I’ll just leave it at that.

It’s a parent or a club coach who has a vendetta. It’s not even worth it. In terms of her leaving a mediocre squad and moving to another, don’t you think she could have gotten a job coaching anywhere? Non-parent coaches who coach past college all know all the clubs directors and owners in some way. I’m sure she could’ve chosen to go to a less “mediocre” squad. Those mediocre squads need coaches like her so let them use her to their benefit
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Going to be a lot of unhappy parents with all the movement on ABCD teams


I’m sure some will jump ships and fill the few remaining spots on other A rosters
Can we get Tilts her own page on BOC? I am tired of reading and hearing about the drama surrounding her. She is one coach and one trainer among many. The only people who care about your issues with her reside on 91 and Jesters. Can we keep the whole 2024 age group out of it?

If you like her, great, if you don’t, great. No one cares, unless you have a vested interest in filling her pockets, you all sound foolish.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get Tilts her own page on BOC? I am tired of reading and hearing about the drama surrounding her. She is one coach and one trainer among many. The only people who care about your issues with her reside on 91 and Jesters. Can we keep the whole 2024 age group out of it?

If you like her, great, if you don’t, great. No one cares, unless you have a vested interest in filling her pockets, you all sound foolish.

Truth be told I’ve screenshotted these to her and she asked me not to reply to any of it and to let it disappear. If you’re a fan of her she seems to not want any publicity about her even positive ones
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Going to be a lot of unhappy parents with all the movement on ABCD teams


I’m sure some will jump ships and fill the few remaining spots on other A rosters


Do any A rosters have room left ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get Tilts her own page on BOC? I am tired of reading and hearing about the drama surrounding her. She is one coach and one trainer among many. The only people who care about your issues with her reside on 91 and Jesters. Can we keep the whole 2024 age group out of it?

If you like her, great, if you don’t, great. No one cares, unless you have a vested interest in filling her pockets, you all sound foolish.

Truth be told I’ve screenshotted these to her and she asked me not to reply to any of it and to let it disappear. If you’re a fan of her she seems to not want any publicity about her even positive ones

Yet, you literally just replied...
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get Tilts her own page on BOC? I am tired of reading and hearing about the drama surrounding her. She is one coach and one trainer among many. The only people who care about your issues with her reside on 91 and Jesters. Can we keep the whole 2024 age group out of it?

If you like her, great, if you don’t, great. No one cares, unless you have a vested interest in filling her pockets, you all sound foolish.

Truth be told I’ve screenshotted these to her and she asked me not to reply to any of it and to let it disappear. If you’re a fan of her she seems to not want any publicity about her even positive ones

Yet, you literally just replied...

with is Tilts or [ChillLaxin]?? where did she play and why do we care??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Going to be a lot of unhappy parents with all the movement on ABCD teams


I’m sure some will jump ships and fill the few remaining spots on other A rosters


Do any A rosters have room left ?

I don’t think so? If a good player came to a team though they’d probably make room right?
I’m lost here. Yellow jackets has promised kids spots on certain rosters before tryouts. The teams are ABCD, so how do they know where to place kids before tryouts ?
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?
Are teams coaches or programs helping them with recruiting at all?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m lost here. Yellow jackets has promised kids spots on certain rosters before tryouts. The teams are ABCD, so how do they know where to place kids before tryouts ?

Politicsssss
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are teams coaches or programs helping them with recruiting at all?

I think it depends on your coach
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m lost here. Yellow jackets has promised kids spots on certain rosters before tryouts. The teams are ABCD, so how do they know where to place kids before tryouts ?

Politicsssss
So true. Teams are already formed and kids who have been on them for years have no clue what’s about to happen after “tryouts”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are teams coaches or programs helping them with recruiting at all?

I think it depends on your coach

What does that even mean?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

Lax on is a very good group that has shown an ability to train and get the most of its players. The Coaches are all non parents who have played and coached at the highest level.
They are new to the LI travel scene but not new to high level training or coaching. Not sure of your players experience level but it’s worth a look.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Kildare is mommy ball at it’s worst. Their only goal since moving to Yellow Jackets was to get their kids on Weiner.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?

2024 and she played with a New Jersey team while we were in the city. Are laxon and Ohana suitable if she’s looking to play in college?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?

2024 and she played with a New Jersey team while we were in the city. Are laxon and Ohana suitable if she’s looking to play in college?


Yes for Lax on. The directors have strong experience coaching HS and college lax. Both have strong relationships with college coaches because of prior experience and work they did with their recent 2022 team. They have done an extremely impressive job in a short period of time. They only had that 2022 team for less than a season and look what they did for them. My niece felt forgotten on another club and did very well in the end.

2024 will be their next team and they only run one per age group. Give them a call and see if it’s a fit. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Kildare is mommy ball at it’s worst. Their only goal since moving to Yellow Jackets was to get their kids on Weiner.

Are their kids “moving” to wiener ?
Is the Kildare mom
coaches kid going to Wiener?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?

2024 and she played with a New Jersey team while we were in the city. Are laxon and Ohana suitable if she’s looking to play in college?


Yes for Lax on. The directors have strong experience coaching HS and college lax. Both have strong relationships with college coaches because of prior experience and work they did with their recent 2022 team. They have done an extremely impressive job in a short period of time. They only had that 2022 team for less than a season and look what they did for them. My niece felt forgotten on another club and did very well in the end.

2024 will be their next team and they only run one per age group. Give them a call and see if it’s a fit. Good luck!

So obvious what’s happening here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Kildare is mommy ball at it’s worst. Their only goal since moving to Yellow Jackets was to get their kids on Weiner.

I really don’t understand why parents are so obsessed with their kids playing there. Is it the politics and most of the girls sitting the bench? I get that everyone goes crazy over the rankings but do you brag about the rankings as your child had nothing to do with getting the team there? That must make your child feel great. Does it help your child’s development of the game by watching it or playing? Does it help their self esteem to travel every weekend to maybe see a couple of minutes of field time? I understand that 12-14 girls and coaches daughters see the field and will get the exposer so what happens to the rest of them? Do you just settle with your daughter being on a top team but not playing. How will they been seen if they don’t play. Do they just get scholarships because they are wearing certain jersey? Parents need to put their egos away and find the right team for their daughter so she can excel, play and do her best! So many people yr after yr make the same mistake and unfortunately by the time they wake up the stars and friends of the team have committed and the rest are scrambling with no help from the top club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?

2024 and she played with a New Jersey team while we were in the city. Are laxon and Ohana suitable if she’s looking to play in college?

Look at LaxOn or Jesters. But, it may be too late? As I think tryouts have already happened on those clubs. Maybe reach out to the clubs, ask if any spots are open and ask for an evaluation/tryout. If they think your daughter can benefit their team , it’s a possibility you could still get on a team there? Plus, when YJ tryouts happen, some of the girls they think they have, they may not. They May then have open spots on rosters??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ramos did very well this past season. Definitely a solid team. Kildare is definitely behind them in talent and depth of the bench.

Kildare picking up some very solid players from other teams! So, wait until the new season

Would be nice for Kildare to tell parents about that so that we know we need to find another team.

Kildare is mommy ball at it’s worst. Their only goal since moving to Yellow Jackets was to get their kids on Weiner.

So, did the girl who had the mommy coach on Kildare Finally break through to the Wiener A team this year? Couple years of getting non-stop playing time in games, could be paying off? Just in time for recruiting years!

Maybe “mommy coach” is smarter than peeps give her credit for. Lol The girl wouldn’t have had all that attention / playing time over the last few years if she was on the “A” team. Was better having her own team. Kudos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two newer LI teams I was told about that have open space - Laxon and Ohana. We just moved to LI from the city and we’re trying to navigate the travel world since it wasn’t really available in our old neighborhood as it is in Nassau. Can someone tell me more about these programs or can others recommend some programs?

How old is your daughter? And experience level?

2024 and she played with a New Jersey team while we were in the city. Are laxon and Ohana suitable if she’s looking to play in college?

Look at LaxOn or Jesters. But, it may be too late? As I think tryouts have already happened on those clubs. Maybe reach out to the clubs, ask if any spots are open and ask for an evaluation/tryout. If they think your daughter can benefit their team , it’s a possibility you could still get on a team there? Plus, when YJ tryouts happen, some of the girls they think they have, they may not. They May then have open spots on rosters??

If you’re looking for an A team I believe jesters A is filled. Laxon has been consistently posting supplemental tryout info which leads me to believe they are in need of more players.
Jesters A team just filled up their spots with B players from 91. Laxon has a 2024 for team , but they charge double what everyone else charges , I think it’s due to the strength and conditioning trainers they hire and recruiting assistance. Ohana is fairy new and not much info on them . Good luck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters A team just filled up their spots with B players from 91. Laxon has a 2024 for team , but they charge double what everyone else charges , I think it’s due to the strength and conditioning trainers they hire and recruiting assistance. Ohana is fairy new and not much info on them . Good luck

Teams prob. Won’t be totally set until all the tryouts have been completed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters A team just filled up their spots with B players from 91. Laxon has a 2024 for team , but they charge double what everyone else charges , I think it’s due to the strength and conditioning trainers they hire and recruiting assistance. Ohana is fairy new and not much info on them . Good luck

There are only 2 old 91 players on that roster and they are kids who were offered A spots at 91. Not sure where you’re getting your info from but the rest are returners, elevate, and top guns kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters A team just filled up their spots with B players from 91. Laxon has a 2024 for team , but they charge double what everyone else charges , I think it’s due to the strength and conditioning trainers they hire and recruiting assistance. Ohana is fairy new and not much info on them . Good luck

Teams prob. Won’t be totally set until all the tryouts have been completed.

I think teams that had tryouts are filled completely ?
Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Clearly you don’t know your ButtHead from your elbow, let alone the truth.
Such a witty response, your clearly upset your kid didn’t make the team 😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters A team just filled up their spots with B players from 91. Laxon has a 2024 for team , but they charge double what everyone else charges , I think it’s due to the strength and conditioning trainers they hire and recruiting assistance. Ohana is fairy new and not much info on them . Good luck

There are only 2 old 91 players on that roster and they are kids who were offered A spots at 91. Not sure where you’re getting your info from but the rest are returners, elevate, and top guns kids.

Fake News Again!!!

Nobody offered a Team 91 A spot left to play for the Jesters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.

Maybe you should take your own advice and find a new hobby and way to market yourself. We are all just responding to your nonsense. Please stop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.

Maybe you should take your own advice and find a new hobby and way to market yourself. We are all just responding to your nonsense. Please stop.

God god. I am not even involved with the above clubs you are talking about. Just an outsider looking in. Think you may need more of a life, other than watching what other 2024 clubs are doing. Seems your world actually agitates you a little too much. Lighten up .....have a Snickers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.

Maybe you should take your own advice and find a new hobby and way to market yourself. We are all just responding to your nonsense. Please stop.

God god. I am not even involved with the above clubs you are talking about. Just an outsider looking in. Think you may need more of a life, other than watching what other 2024 clubs are doing. Seems your world actually agitates you a little too much. Lighten up .....have a Snickers

Lol you are funny!
But right in the middle of it?
Which is even funnier!!
😂
I think it’s funny that there are ADULTS on her gossiping about children. First off, you have obviously outed yourself as a 91 coach or a bandits parent who merged with the program who think they have an inside scoop. The only people who know the truth in the matter are the coaches, and if others know information who aren’t the coaches those coaches need to grow up and stop gossiping about fifteen year olds. You obviously have a reason to want to defend 91s honor and make it seem like they didn’t lose any good players. There is a reason one out of 3 teams they made folded before the year started because every new player not on bandits or 91 left for other programs. Also want to point out that kids bandits A cut moved to other programs and made teams like top guns black. At the end of the day, even if those kids weren’t offered an A spot as you claim there was obviously a roster made in the coaches head before tryouts that didn’t include kids with the talent level to be on that team.

In reply to asking about the YJ Kildare player whose mom coaches and asking if she will move up to Weiner… why do YOU care? Again, it isn’t your kid. Let the parents and kids decide where they want to play. You also obviously have a reason to attack Kildare and Weiner just as the other individual referenced above has intent to attack the kids who chose not to stay with 91.

You make it very clear that you have a personal vendetta to disrupt the success of other kids and every clubs when you target specific individuals and teams as you are.

It’s time to grow up. If you’re a coach , you have no business coaching if this is how you think of children. If you are a parent, your behavior is disgusting and when college coaches see it or talk to people who know you and your child, you kid is going to pay the consequences for your attitude issues.

Get over yourself and let the kids enjoy the sport. Stop being the reason that these kids aren’t teaching their full potential. You’re a grown up here, YOU should have outgrown this drama.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think it’s funny that there are ADULTS on her gossiping about children. First off, you have obviously outed yourself as a 91 coach or a bandits parent who merged with the program who think they have an inside scoop. The only people who know the truth in the matter are the coaches, and if others know information who aren’t the coaches those coaches need to grow up and stop gossiping about fifteen year olds. You obviously have a reason to want to defend 91s honor and make it seem like they didn’t lose any good players. There is a reason one out of 3 teams they made folded before the year started because every new player not on bandits or 91 left for other programs. Also want to point out that kids bandits A cut moved to other programs and made teams like top guns black. At the end of the day, even if those kids weren’t offered an A spot as you claim there was obviously a roster made in the coaches head before tryouts that didn’t include kids with the talent level to be on that team.

In reply to asking about the YJ Kildare player whose mom coaches and asking if she will move up to Weiner… why do YOU care? Again, it isn’t your kid. Let the parents and kids decide where they want to play. You also obviously have a reason to attack Kildare and Weiner just as the other individual referenced above has intent to attack the kids who chose not to stay with 91.

You make it very clear that you have a personal vendetta to disrupt the success of other kids and every clubs when you target specific individuals and teams as you are.

It’s time to grow up. If you’re a coach , you have no business coaching if this is how you think of children. If you are a parent, your behavior is disgusting and when college coaches see it or talk to people who know you and your child, you kid is going to pay the consequences for your attitude issues.

Get over yourself and let the kids enjoy the sport. Stop being the reason that these kids aren’t teaching their full potential. You’re a grown up here, YOU should have outgrown this drama.


Thank you for saying this. The adults on here attacking specific kids need to focus on their own kids instead of the gossip they think they know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.

Maybe you should take your own advice and find a new hobby and way to market yourself. We are all just responding to your nonsense. Please stop.

God god. I am not even involved with the above clubs you are talking about. Just an outsider looking in. Think you may need more of a life, other than watching what other 2024 clubs are doing. Seems your world actually agitates you a little too much. Lighten up .....have a Snickers

Lol you are funny!
But right in the middle of it?
Which is even funnier!!
😂

This troll needs more than a snickers…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like I said , the girls that went to Jesters were not offered spots , you can tell yourself your kid was offered a spot on the team , but we know the truth.

Why is it that you even care?? I would find a hobby, something outside maybe. Clearly you need something else more to do than just looking at your phone trying to figure out what other clubs are doing. Sad actually.

Maybe you should take your own advice and find a new hobby and way to market yourself. We are all just responding to your nonsense. Please stop.

God god. I am not even involved with the above clubs you are talking about. Just an outsider looking in. Think you may need more of a life, other than watching what other 2024 clubs are doing. Seems your world actually agitates you a little too much. Lighten up .....have a Snickers

Lol you are funny!
But right in the middle of it?
Which is even funnier!!
😂

This troll needs more than a snickers…

Ahahaha ....yes he/she does - Don’t think there is any coming back from that child-like mentality. A Snickers won’t help lol. Always remember folks, PARENTS get cut also. And many college programs won’t take kids b/c of their overbearing immature parents. Time to grow up, whoever you are.
How many players did jesters black get from elevate?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many players did jesters black get from elevate?

2-3 according to another post
Is there a way to see the names of which kids are on which rosters ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few Jesters kids left the program , Recon is in shambles , Recon program is extremely weak, the kids with any type of talent are looking elsewhere. YJ has four teams in this age group , they could easily just combine the actual good players and have a A, B ,C half of these kids don’t play anyway. 91 team kept the core group and added a few Crossfire kids . Haven’t heard much on the legacy front, assuming smooth sailing in legacy

Can anyone clarify if Recon folded or merged with somebody else?
Jeez , you just contradicted yourself in so many ways . Your talking about not bashing kids or adults and grudges, yet you took the time to write a thesis. Obviously your upset about someone or something, possibly playing time ? Your kid not making an A team ?? Let it go
Obviously we are all right in the middle of it lol
We all need hobby’s
Boy oh boy , sounds like somebody hurt your feelings lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone clarify if Recon folded or merged with somebody else?

We have friends who play for Recon 2024 and they still have a team and are set to play in tournaments this fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many players did jesters black get from elevate?

2-3 according to another post

Elevate 2024 played lower level last year. The 2 best players are going to Liberty and YJ C.
Jesters offered one or both of these players spots but were turned down. Hope this cleans up any confusion.



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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many players did jesters black get from elevate?

2-3 according to another post

Elevate 2024 played lower level last year. The 2 best players are going to Liberty and YJ C.
Jesters offered one or both of these players spots but were turned down. Hope this cleans up any confusion.



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I really think you are misinformed. There are two elevate kids on jesters public roster both of which are very strong players
Spoke to a 91 parent who said that the bandits crew has steam rolled 91 and taken over. They’re practicing in stony brook in a park they don’t have permits for and kids are doing a lot of standing at practices. According to the 500 91 email blasts I get a week, I thought BS was growing the girls program, not slapping their name onto the bandits management.
Elevate lost a bunch of players this year. Still a couple good players remain on the team but hard to imagine how they will rebuild.

From Elevate, it is correct that 2 went to YJ Kildare and 1 went to Liberty. Jesters picked up 2 of their Defensive players.
I heard bandits has completely overrun 91. It’s basically bandirs management and coaches with a 91 label. Worst mistake the program could have made was merging with them.
At the 24 level I’m told practices are being held in SB on a field without permits. According to the million emails 91 sends out about revamping the program it doesn’t seem like they’re going in the right direction.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spoke to a 91 parent who said that the bandits crew has steam rolled 91 and taken over. They’re practicing in stony brook in a park they don’t have permits for and kids are doing a lot of standing at practices. According to the 500 91 email blasts I get a week, I thought BS was growing the girls program, not slapping their name onto the bandits management.

Given the two clubs the merger was always going to be very difficult. But in all honesty 91 may very well have folded its girls side if not for a merger of some sort. They were in a bad way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spoke to a 91 parent who said that the bandits crew has steam rolled 91 and taken over. They’re practicing in stony brook in a park they don’t have permits for and kids are doing a lot of standing at practices. According to the 500 91 email blasts I get a week, I thought BS was growing the girls program, not slapping their name onto the bandits management.

Given the two clubs the merger was always going to be very difficult. But in all honesty 91 may very well have folded its girls side if not for a merger of some sort. They were in a bad way.

They have never been a girls club… the bandits merger was a last minute saving grace to keep the girls side alive. I’m sure they gave them whatever they wanted to keep the girls side alive
It blows my mind that the 91 girls program is still around. They have always been awful. I think some families give them a try when their girls are young because they ride on the reputation of the boys side. They realize after a year or two they made a big mistake and bolt. Then the teams fold and the rest of the girls get screwed and scatter anywhere that will take them. Stay away!
What blows my mind is that so many angry dads on here bashing clubs and keeping everyone updated on practices that their children aren’t even attending… also if they are supposedly so horrible why do you feel the need to keep talking about them. Get over whatever issues you have and move on it’s time.
If they are so bad why do you keep posting constantly about them. Its very obvious we have a disgruntled parent here. It’s sad when as an adult you feel the need to go on a public forum and bash a club/team of teenage girls. If it’s not for your daughter that’s fine but don’t see why we need the updates on team practices
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It blows my mind that the 91 girls program is still around. They have always been awful. I think some families give them a try when their girls are young because they ride on the reputation of the boys side. They realize after a year or two they made a big mistake and bolt. Then the teams fold and the rest of the girls get screwed and scatter anywhere that will take them. Stay away!

They are surviving off the boys legacy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they are so bad why do you keep posting constantly about them. Its very obvious we have a disgruntled parent here. It’s sad when as an adult you feel the need to go on a public forum and bash a club/team of teenage girls. If it’s not for your daughter that’s fine but don’t see why we need the updates on team practices

It may not be a parent but a former employee of 91. Uses the word troll a lot when you question the fake news spread about her new club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they are so bad why do you keep posting constantly about them. Its very obvious we have a disgruntled parent here. It’s sad when as an adult you feel the need to go on a public forum and bash a club/team of teenage girls. If it’s not for your daughter that’s fine but don’t see why we need the updates on team practices

It may not be a parent but a former employee of 91. Uses the word troll a lot when you question the fake news spread about her new club.

The conversation about 91 girls being a mess has been going on for years. This website talks about every club. There are entire pages for just bashing yellow jackets and top guns. The idea of many people talking about a club isn’t so far fetched buddy. 91 is just in the forefront of it because they made a bad decision with bandits, which is also notoriously posted about on here as a mediocre program. Go back to the old 24 thread from last year and you’ll see plenty of nonsense about every club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It blows my mind that the 91 girls program is still around. They have always been awful. I think some families give them a try when their girls are young because they ride on the reputation of the boys side. They realize after a year or two they made a big mistake and bolt. Then the teams fold and the rest of the girls get screwed and scatter anywhere that will take them. Stay away!

The combination of the clubs makes more sense if there were a lot of teams that folded beforehand
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.

I think that whoever is defending the club and trying to pin the conversation on a single parent is very out of the loop. College programs of top caliber wont even consider a 91 kids half the time.
How did yellow jackets tryouts go?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.

I think that whoever is defending the club and trying to pin the conversation on a single parent is very out of the loop. College programs of top caliber wont even consider a 91 kids half the time.

You'd be better off attending showcases and clinics on your own than to give this organization any of your money. They do absolutely nothing for their Girls Teams - look at their commit list, it's all right their on their website. If your daughter wants to play in college, run far away from 91. They'll take your money, promise you they've changed, then go right back to promoting their boys teams while the Girls get ignored.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did yellow jackets tryouts go?

Went great! You should have been there!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did yellow jackets tryouts go?

Awesome all the girls are committed to D1 schools just for showing up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.

I think that whoever is defending the club and trying to pin the conversation on a single parent is very out of the loop. College programs of top caliber wont even consider a 91 kids half the time.

You'd be better off attending showcases and clinics on your own than to give this organization any of your money. They do absolutely nothing for their Girls Teams - look at their commit list, it's all right their on their website. If your daughter wants to play in college, run far away from 91. They'll take your money, promise you they've changed, then go right back to promoting their boys teams while the Girls get ignored.

They have no problem grabbing your cash and doing nothing for your kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.

I think that whoever is defending the club and trying to pin the conversation on a single parent is very out of the loop. College programs of top caliber wont even consider a 91 kids half the time.

You'd be better off attending showcases and clinics on your own than to give this organization any of your money. They do absolutely nothing for their Girls Teams - look at their commit list, it's all right their on their website. If your daughter wants to play in college, run far away from 91. They'll take your money, promise you they've changed, then go right back to promoting their boys teams while the Girls get ignored.

They have no problem grabbing your cash and doing nothing for your kid.

Can 91 and Jesters develop their own tread? Seems like they are most bashed lately. Seem to be taking up all the space on this one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact that 90% of parents would agree with on here is that 91 has been going downhill for years. Sure that the old coach did their best but she was one person. Whether she stayed or not that club was going under. The two clubs coming together kept both from folding. There is no argument there. There is also no argument that the club is anywhere in comparison to a legacy or YJ team.

"Going" downhill? When have they ever been "uphill"? Bottom of the barrel. They have never been able to attract or retain top talent.

I think that whoever is defending the club and trying to pin the conversation on a single parent is very out of the loop. College programs of top caliber wont even consider a 91 kids half the time.

You'd be better off attending showcases and clinics on your own than to give this organization any of your money. They do absolutely nothing for their Girls Teams - look at their commit list, it's all right their on their website. If your daughter wants to play in college, run far away from 91. They'll take your money, promise you they've changed, then go right back to promoting their boys teams while the Girls get ignored.

They have no problem grabbing your cash and doing nothing for your kid.

Can 91 and Jesters develop their own tread? Seems like they are most bashed lately. Seem to be taking up all the space on this one.


Guess you haven’t been following. Every club gets hammered here. Maybe you should start your own website. This way you can be in control which club gets promoted, and which club gets bashed. Better yet, maybe you should just skip ‘treads’ you don’t like.
Ok, I think it’s just parents venting about clubs they are disappointed and/or happy with. Seems every club ends up as the topic of discussion at some point. It’s good for parents to have a place to go to hopefully get some good information / feedback from other parents. Just need to put up with 80% nonsense/angry/dense post by disgruntled parents frown
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
Well that’s unfortunate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well that’s unfortunate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
I haven’t been asked for money in a few weeks.
Positive - being tough on them, expecting the best out of them, not babying them and showing them that its important to work hard outside of practice and tournaments. That sometimes you have a bad game, make mistakes and its how you react to that which will determine where you end up. There is always something to learn. - YJ 2024 team

People are on here are always bad mouthing coaches/programs but at the end of the day its on your kid. Complain about the money, but then don't pay it. These years go fast, enjoy it. Making sure your kid is actually on the right team from the start is the beginning. If you are one of those parents complaining summer after summer and doing nothing about it.. Then its on you, not the club or the coach. If your kid is seeing the limited minutes summer after summer, then maybe its time to realize they aren't on the right team. If you really care about your kids development and its not all about status then ask to move to a team within the club where your kid will get more playing time. So much focus on the coaches, how about the parents? Everyone thinks there kid is amazing or is being treated unfairly. Moving clubs all the time isn't always the answer. I can't stand to hear the same parents complain and then seeing them hoping their kid doesn't get cut the next year. Let's be honest in 6 years from now (which is not that far off) no one is going to care, not even you!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well that’s unfortunate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
I haven’t been asked for money in a few weeks.
Wait for it…….

Somebody doesn’t really want to hear what you have to say and can’t wait to tell you all about what they are doing for their kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait for it…….

Somebody doesn’t really want to hear what you have to say and can’t wait to tell you all about what they are doing for their kids.

Legacy has done a really great job at keeping the talent and removing kids who should not have been given a spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Positive - being tough on them, expecting the best out of them, not babying them and showing them that its important to work hard outside of practice and tournaments. That sometimes you have a bad game, make mistakes and its how you react to that which will determine where you end up. There is always something to learn. - YJ 2024 team

People are on here are always bad mouthing coaches/programs but at the end of the day its on your kid. Complain about the money, but then don't pay it. These years go fast, enjoy it. Making sure your kid is actually on the right team from the start is the beginning. If you are one of those parents complaining summer after summer and doing nothing about it.. Then its on you, not the club or the coach. If your kid is seeing the limited minutes summer after summer, then maybe its time to realize they aren't on the right team. If you really care about your kids development and its not all about status then ask to move to a team within the club where your kid will get more playing time. So much focus on the coaches, how about the parents? Everyone thinks there kid is amazing or is being treated unfairly. Moving clubs all the time isn't always the answer. I can't stand to hear the same parents complain and then seeing them hoping their kid doesn't get cut the next year. Let's be honest in 6 years from now (which is not that far off) no one is going to care, not even you!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well that’s unfortunate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
I haven’t been asked for money in a few weeks.

I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.
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Positive - being tough on them, expecting the best out of them, not babying them and showing them that its important to work hard outside of practice and tournaments. That sometimes you have a bad game, make mistakes and its how you react to that which will determine where you end up. There is always something to learn. - YJ 2024 team

People are on here are always bad mouthing coaches/programs but at the end of the day its on your kid. Complain about the money, but then don't pay it. These years go fast, enjoy it. Making sure your kid is actually on the right team from the start is the beginning. If you are one of those parents complaining summer after summer and doing nothing about it.. Then its on you, not the club or the coach. If your kid is seeing the limited minutes summer after summer, then maybe its time to realize they aren't on the right team. If you really care about your kids development and its not all about status then ask to move to a team within the club where your kid will get more playing time. So much focus on the coaches, how about the parents? Everyone thinks there kid is amazing or is being treated unfairly. Moving clubs all the time isn't always the answer. I can't stand to hear the same parents complain and then seeing them hoping their kid doesn't get cut the next year. Let's be honest in 6 years from now (which is not that far off) no one is going to care, not even you!


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Well that’s unfortunate
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
I haven’t been asked for money in a few weeks.

I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

Which programs keep kids benched ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Positive - being tough on them, expecting the best out of them, not babying them and showing them that its important to work hard outside of practice and tournaments. That sometimes you have a bad game, make mistakes and its how you react to that which will determine where you end up. There is always something to learn. - YJ 2024 team

People are on here are always bad mouthing coaches/programs but at the end of the day its on your kid. Complain about the money, but then don't pay it. These years go fast, enjoy it. Making sure your kid is actually on the right team from the start is the beginning. If you are one of those parents complaining summer after summer and doing nothing about it.. Then its on you, not the club or the coach. If your kid is seeing the limited minutes summer after summer, then maybe its time to realize they aren't on the right team. If you really care about your kids development and its not all about status then ask to move to a team within the club where your kid will get more playing time. So much focus on the coaches, how about the parents? Everyone thinks there kid is amazing or is being treated unfairly. Moving clubs all the time isn't always the answer. I can't stand to hear the same parents complain and then seeing them hoping their kid doesn't get cut the next year. Let's be honest in 6 years from now (which is not that far off) no one is going to care, not even you!


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well that’s unfortunate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we get a few positive comments on here about good things programs or coaches are doing for the 24s? Not joking. List some positive things your club or coach has done for your daughter or their team
No.
I haven’t been asked for money in a few weeks.

I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

If in 6 years nobody will care(which is true, and for some it will be 2 years!!) then why all of the fomo, why all of the craziness having to do everything under the sun. Why play have young kids playing late at night? If you truly believe that then coaches should dial it back especially during seasons when kids are playing other sports. Give those of us who agree with that statement options not fomo.
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I think the comment about complaints being on the parents is laughable. There are constant complaints on this board about all different clubs and all different ages. So all clubs and their coaches are perfect? Club coaches complain about other clubs and their coaches constantly. Tons of parents complain about DK are they wrong?
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I’ve heard that some clubs in other states give parents written assessments of their players every few months. I thought that was a great idea- so simple, and yet it doesn’t seem that LI clubs do this. There is no good way to get feedback from coaches- only through informal avenues. Do you know of any LI clubs that routinely provide feedback on each kid?
Bc bad feedback pisses parents off and then the club loses out bc these parents start looking elsewhere
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I’ve heard that some clubs in other states give parents written assessments of their players every few months. I thought that was a great idea- so simple, and yet it doesn’t seem that LI clubs do this. There is no good way to get feedback from coaches- only through informal avenues. Do you know of any LI clubs that routinely provide feedback on each kid?

That's called running a business and taking care of your customers. Not just collecting money and rolling a ball out and playing. Must be nice.
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I’ve heard that some clubs in other states give parents written assessments of their players every few months. I thought that was a great idea- so simple, and yet it doesn’t seem that LI clubs do this. There is no good way to get feedback from coaches- only through informal avenues. Do you know of any LI clubs that routinely provide feedback on each kid?

I’m sure I’ll get heat for the mention of our out team since we seem to be getting a lot of the heat as a club right now right now, but Crossfire staff did it for our kids last year. All three coaches put their feedback into a template they made and sent it to each kid separately.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I’ve heard that some clubs in other states give parents written assessments of their players every few months. I thought that was a great idea- so simple, and yet it doesn’t seem that LI clubs do this. There is no good way to get feedback from coaches- only through informal avenues. Do you know of any LI clubs that routinely provide feedback on each kid?

I’m sure I’ll get heat for the mention of our out team since we seem to be getting a lot of the heat as a club right now right now, but Crossfire staff did it for our kids last year. All three coaches put their feedback into a template they made and sent it to each kid separately.

That’s great!! And ,something positive said about a club/team too!
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I think all parents want is transparency. If a kid isn't playing why? How are you helping them to get better and get on the field(besides offering private training at an extra cost). If a kid isn't going to play cut them, don't expect them to walk away. If you ask for money, where is it going? If a kid tries out for another team another team, that should be ok. I think it's a bit bold of you to suggest that if there are complaints it's on the parents. I've yet to see a coach who is perfect. I think parents need to look at things through the eyes of a coach, that said I think coaches should make an effort to look at things through the eyes of a parent. Like it or not as a coach you are being paid to provide a service. Think of any service that you pay for in life. Don't you expect some form of communication, some reasoning of why things are being done? I think if there was a little more give and take parents, coaches and players would benefit.

I think a lot of it stems from parents inability or unwillingness to give an honest assessment of their kid's ability.

I think it's the coaches job to give an assessment of a players ability and communicate that assessment. Many parents are not qualified to accurately assess there kids ability so they rely on a coach. Can you assess your childs ability in calculus or do you rely on the teacher? While some are qualified, most are not.

I’ve heard that some clubs in other states give parents written assessments of their players every few months. I thought that was a great idea- so simple, and yet it doesn’t seem that LI clubs do this. There is no good way to get feedback from coaches- only through informal avenues. Do you know of any LI clubs that routinely provide feedback on each kid?

I’m sure I’ll get heat for the mention of our out team since we seem to be getting a lot of the heat as a club right now right now, but Crossfire staff did it for our kids last year. All three coaches put their feedback into a template they made and sent it to each kid separately.

That’s great!! And ,something positive said about a club/team too!

One of those coaches also left the team and the 2022 team mid season with no explanation so maybe her efforts were short last
If your daughter was on a top ranked team but didn’t play would you keep them on that team?
If you are asking that here, you know the answer. When you say doesn't play there is your answer. College coaches don't care about the ranking they are there to see them play. It's not like they are going to say but she's on a topped ranked team though so she has to be good. They want to see them play.

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If your daughter was on a top ranked team but didn’t play would you keep them on that team?
No
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If you are asking that here, you know the answer. When you say doesn't play there is your answer. College coaches don't care about the ranking they are there to see them play. It's not like they are going to say but she's on a topped ranked team though so she has to be good. They want to see them play.

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If your daughter was on a top ranked team but didn’t play would you keep them on that team?

No, As the 23's are probably finally learning as we speak, college coaches don't care what team a player is on and they really don't care what that team is ranked. The only thing rankings are good for is marketing a club to the younger players parents who are clueless,
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are asking that here, you know the answer. When you say doesn't play there is your answer. College coaches don't care about the ranking they are there to see them play. It's not like they are going to say but she's on a topped ranked team though so she has to be good. They want to see them play.

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If your daughter was on a top ranked team but didn’t play would you keep them on that team?

No, As the 23's are probably finally learning as we speak, college coaches don't care what team a player is on and they really don't care what that team is ranked. The only thing rankings are good for is marketing a club to the younger players parents who are clueless,

As a prior college coach and now a parent this isn’t true. There were many coaches I spoke with that wouldn’t bother even going to see some clubs because they knew they’d come in too raw to compete as freshman.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are asking that here, you know the answer. When you say doesn't play there is your answer. College coaches don't care about the ranking they are there to see them play. It's not like they are going to say but she's on a topped ranked team though so she has to be good. They want to see them play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter was on a top ranked team but didn’t play would you keep them on that team?

No, As the 23's are probably finally learning as we speak, college coaches don't care what team a player is on and they really don't care what that team is ranked. The only thing rankings are good for is marketing a club to the younger players parents who are clueless,

As a prior college coach and now a parent this isn’t true. There were many coaches I spoke with that wouldn’t bother even going to see some clubs because they knew they’d come in too raw to compete as freshman.

LOL. Please. Nice try though.
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.
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While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

I think most high level teams are filled now. If you get an offer to a strong team and hesitate to take it this late into the summer you’re a fool
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If you're on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their business to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knowledgeable coaches as directors.

And the best litmus test is to look at how the club did with recruiting their 22 and even their 21 class. It's hard to make a move this late in the game but not impossible. As the prior person stated, some did a little with a lot and some did a lot with a little. You want a recruiting director who is dedicated and connected and can advocate for you. Sometimes this can make a huge difference. Those recruiting directors that have established a positive reputation amongst the college coaches and who know how to get in touch with the college coaches when time is of the essence can be the difference in your daughter being recruited or not. Don't forget your high school coaches too. They can also advocate for your player.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

touché
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

touché

What teams have at least one non-parent coach?

Legacy
Jesters
Top guns
Recon

Anyone else ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

Despite all the money we pay most travel teams have a parent head coach or co-head coach.. Parent coaches stink!! Legacy, Top Guns and LaxOn Elite only non parent head coach I can think of.. All had good 2022 recruiting classes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

touché

What teams have at least one non-parent coach?

Legacy
Jesters
Top guns
Recon

Anyone else ?

One of the best 2024 LI Teams - YJ Wiener, is not a parent head coach! Head Coach Wiener is not a parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

touché

What teams have at least one non-parent coach?

Legacy
Jesters
Top guns
Recon

Anyone else ?

One of the best 2024 LI Teams - YJ Wiener, is not a parent head coach! Head Coach Wiener is not a parent.

Although if we are being honest, she's also barely our coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

Despite all the money we pay most travel teams have a parent head coach or co-head coach.. Parent coaches stink!! Legacy, Top Guns and LaxOn Elite only non parent head coach I can think of.. All had good 2022 recruiting classes.

YJ Wiener also has no parent head coaches. And also had a good 2022 recruiting class.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I think your answer may seem harsh to some, it’s somewhat true.. It’s obvious that a coach from a lower club is asking this question and trying to persuade players from better clubs to come play for them.
The true answer is that there are too many variables to simply answer. It depends on the health of the situation on either side of the fence and also what level you are trying to achieve.

Switching clubs at this point can be tricky but when choosing any organization- What is the experience level of the coach with College Women’s lax and recruiting? What is the resume of the head coach and coaches? Parent coaches are a bad idea. The old saying steel cuts steel is paramount. You want your player with and against the best and that includes practice. What is the commitment of the coach and the players all season long? What tourneys is the club attending? Does the club have one team in each age group or multiple and the focus of the recruiting can be washed down. How many practices does.the club have? How are the practices?
Do your homework and don’t listen to the lies on this tread. Take a look at the 2022 class and see who did what with their recruits. Some did very little with a lot and some did a lot with very little. There is a butt for every seat but choose wisely. The YJ parents that are leaving for more playing time and attention are smart and have been very careful. Take a look and you will see.


Very true words spoken. If youre on a team with only parent coaches and have to pay for recruiting help it may be time to leave and find a coach who cares. part of a program where other years are falling apart or the club needs to bring new clubs into their buisness to stay alive? not a good sign. Find a club that is doing well consistently, plays your kid, and has knwoledgable coaches as directors.

Any team with a parent head coach or co-head coach would be a concern to me. Zero parent coaches on the bench would be ideal. There are a few with none but you need to do your homework.
Also, a club that has never shown a history of recruiting success is a BiG No.

Aren't all the yellowjacket teams at this age completely parent coaches?

Despite all the money we pay most travel teams have a parent head coach or co-head coach.. Parent coaches stink!! Legacy, Top Guns and LaxOn Elite only non parent head coach I can think of.. All had good 2022 recruiting classes.

YJ Wiener also has no parent head coaches. And also had a good 2022 recruiting class.

YJ Wiener is the definition of parent coaching. They have two parent coaches who make moves that to benefit their own kids. When the parents are coaching their daughters never come off the field. Watch that team play when Curcio coaches it is a much better team with no nonsense.
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.

If you’re involved in lacrosse at all the kids start to become known easily if they are any good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.

If you’re involved in lacrosse at all the kids start to become known easily if they are any good

Exactly, if you have been around LI lacrosse for a few years and looking to maybe switch teams at this age, it’s hard. If you have played these teams, or know other girls on the teams you know who’s who as far as playing goes. Girls pretty much all know each other as well. Especially if you are looking for your daughter to try out for a team at this age! You need to know if she has a chance to play? It’s not creepy, it’a smart to know what’s going on on another team before sending your kid there. This is not 3rd grade!
Wiener is never even there…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.

If you’re involved in lacrosse at all the kids start to become known easily if they are any good

Exactly, if you have been around LI lacrosse for a few years and looking to maybe switch teams at this age, it’s hard. If you have played these teams, or know other girls on the teams you know who’s who as far as playing goes. Girls pretty much all know each other as well. Especially if you are looking for your daughter to try out for a team at this age! You need to know if she has a chance to play? It’s not creepy, it’a smart to know what’s going on on another team before sending your kid there. This is not 3rd grade!
You peeps are cra!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.

If you’re involved in lacrosse at all the kids start to become known easily if they are any good

Exactly, if you have been around LI lacrosse for a few years and looking to maybe switch teams at this age, it’s hard. If you have played these teams, or know other girls on the teams you know who’s who as far as playing goes. Girls pretty much all know each other as well. Especially if you are looking for your daughter to try out for a team at this age! You need to know if she has a chance to play? It’s not creepy, it’a smart to know what’s going on on another team before sending your kid there. This is not 3rd grade!

Ha. You peeps are cra
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally disagree! I was watching that Wiener team in the championship game at L4C and the 1 parent coaches kid did not even go in. So, false. Also, I have watched them in a few things to see about that team for trying out purposes and the coaches kids are def. not the ones getting all the playing time. Would really be hard to tell who the coaches kids are, as I did not see clear favoritism on the kids. Maybe a few of the midfielders who seemed to be out there the most

How the heck do you know who is who on a team you aren’t a part of. I don’t even know who is who on my own daughters team half the time. Sounds a bit creepy to me.

If you’re involved in lacrosse at all the kids start to become known easily if they are any good

Exactly, if you have been around LI lacrosse for a few years and looking to maybe switch teams at this age, it’s hard. If you have played these teams, or know other girls on the teams you know who’s who as far as playing goes. Girls pretty much all know each other as well. Especially if you are looking for your daughter to try out for a team at this age! You need to know if she has a chance to play? It’s not creepy, it’a smart to know what’s going on on another team before sending your kid there. This is not 3rd grade!

Ha. You peeps are cra
Elevate is now ranked higher than top guns… too bad elevate lost all their talent and top guns had to resort to a goalie from another state and players cut from other teams to fill their roster. Going to be an interesting fall seeing where these teams land.
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?

Let the top guns parent live in their ignorant bliss thinking their 24 group is anywhere near where their past teams were
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?

Let the top guns parent live in their ignorant bliss thinking their 24 group is anywhere near where their past teams were

They don’t have coaches that even give actionable feedback how can you expect them to get better when they just get screamed at and belittled
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?

Let the top guns parent live in their ignorant bliss thinking their 24 group is anywhere near where their past teams were

Well tgey will win 98% of the draws when kG takes them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?

Let the top guns parent live in their ignorant bliss thinking their 24 group is anywhere near where their past teams were

Well tgey will win 98% of the draws when kG takes them

Having one good player won’t save the rest of a mediocre roster
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think TG will be good. Let’s see what the new team looks like. Heard they picked up a few good players

Their new players are legacy and bandits cuts, one girl from the 2023 team, and a goalie from Ohio. You must be joking right ?

Let the top guns parent live in their ignorant bliss thinking their 24 group is anywhere near where their past teams were

Well tgey will win 98% of the draws when kG takes them

Having one good player won’t save the rest of a mediocre roster

She needs good wings to win the draw. The TG '23s had great wings. All you need is one superfast/scrappy girl. I'm sure they will be fine
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.
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Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Team culture has died. All about making$. Some people choose to stink it up and just deal with it. Other's don't.
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Coaches kid left for Ramos and the best defender went to Lax On Elite.
Lax On 2024 team got a few from YJ.
They do a great job with training, coaching and recruiting.
I honestly don't know how you look those parents in the eye and expect to be respected at all. I guess Carol Rose has taught him well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Coaches kid left for Ramos and the best defender went to Lax On Elite.
Lax On 2024 team got a few from YJ.
They do a great job with training, coaching and recruiting.
Sadly the bar is pretty low for what a "great job" looks like on Long Island.
Anyone complementing lax on is dense. The girls who run the organization are completely obsessed with themselves. They pulled a lot of kids who got cut from organizations and took kids from the lowest tiered program. Many of their “top” 24s are kids who were cut from other programs. There is a reason they had supplemental Troy it s for the 24 class THREE plus times and offered every single kid who tried out a spot immediately. They are desperate. The coaches and owners are smart in the sense that they can hire people to make glamorous videos for social media, but if you’ve ever gone to one of their trainings and had any sort of lacrosse background you’d leave runnin’

They are looking for any way to get good press including posting for themselves on her both anonymously and public ally naming themselves. They also seem to have this platform in their pocket since they don’t post half of what’s written about them or it magically gets deleted after a few hours.

I’m sure back of the cage will delete this too for their buddies at lax on.

If you sent your 24 there, I pray that they step it up for you… wait until you see some of the kids they took. Good luck!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Coaches kid left for Ramos and the best defender went to Lax On Elite.
Lax On 2024 team got a few from YJ.
They do a great job with training, coaching and recruiting.
Sadly the bar is pretty low for what a "great job" looks like on Long Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Coaches kid left for Ramos and the best defender went to Lax On Elite.
Lax On 2024 team got a few from YJ.
They do a great job with training, coaching and recruiting.
Sadly the bar is pretty low for what a "great job" looks like on Long Island.

I know it’s frustrating to have to deal with the Uber competitive and sometimes toxic environment that is LI Lax but these women are doing things right.
Teaching the sport the right way in a healthy environment and helping the girls they mentor achieve their goals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy


You’re a pathetic back of the cage troll who truly needs to get a life beyond young girls sports (creep). Could never be offended by your kind.
Seems like 91 is falling apart (as usual no change here), Yj D (O’Sullivan) is in its way out since dad sent his kid to Ramos, and laxon still needs 24s.
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

It is a slap in the face. Hope those kids bolt knowing that he lacks confidence in the group. Is he even still going to coach them if his kid is on a different team? Maybe he will to get free tuition.

Kids on OSullivan team left. Their best defender went elsewhere. Kildare lost a few as well. Have the bees started to die ?

Coaches kid left for Ramos and the best defender went to Lax On Elite.
Lax On 2024 team got a few from YJ.
They do a great job with training, coaching and recruiting.

Lax on Elite 2023 is pretty solid. Beat some highly respectable teams. Somebody is doing something right.
How do you say you don’t believe in your team without saying you don’t believe in your team?

Send your daughter to another team.
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How do you say you don’t believe in your team without saying you don’t believe in your team?

Send your daughter to another team.

Maybe the daughter did not want to be coached by her dad? Wanted a change? Not easy being the coaches kid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy

Its always the same year after year. The top girls play and they are seen. The rest are thrown in from time to time to keep the parents happy. The top players (like 12 girls) get committed and then the claws come out. The once die hard parents who thought their kid would be able to go wherever she’s wanted because she wore a certain jersey and traveled every weekend to MAYBE see some playing time is now slapped into reality once 11th
Grade comes. So now they are scrambling and don’t understand why their child has not seen much interest because they are on a top ranked team and their once loved club/team/coach is now horrible and it’s so political. The main thing is for your child to feel confident and if your on a team that doesn’t play your child or if they do play her but it’s only for a couple of minutes here and there you should be really thinking about what that’s doing to your daughter and her confidence in her playing. She has to feel so good hearing her die hard parents brag about the rankings and the team knowing she did not help get the team there. It’s a game and it’s about your child playing a game, learning and having fun! The key word here is PLAYING if your not on the field your not going to get better and your daughter is not going to be seen no matter what rankling you’re team is. More parents should try to look at the bigger picture and realize that the best team for your child to be on is one that values them as a player not a bench warmer. Also see how the 23’s are quiet right now. Well that’s because the top (maybe 15 girls) are all visiting schools right now while the others are waiting by the phone. Sad but true so if your the top player or a coaches daughter you should of course stay if your not you should run. If the coaches didn’t believe enough in your kid to play them do you really think they are going to help you play in college? Your better off being at a smaller tournament playing in the game then watching the game at the biggest tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy


You’re a pathetic back of the cage troll who truly needs to get a life beyond young girls sports (creep). Could never be offended by your kind.

This is a bit aggressive. You’re in the forum too (creep)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy

Its always the same year after year. The top girls play and they are seen. The rest are thrown in from time to time to keep the parents happy. The top players (like 12 girls) get committed and then the claws come out. The once die hard parents who thought their kid would be able to go wherever she’s wanted because she wore a certain jersey and traveled every weekend to MAYBE see some playing time is now slapped into reality once 11th
Grade comes. So now they are scrambling and don’t understand why their child has not seen much interest because they are on a top ranked team and their once loved club/team/coach is now horrible and it’s so political. The main thing is for your child to feel confident and if your on a team that doesn’t play your child or if they do play her but it’s only for a couple of minutes here and there you should be really thinking about what that’s doing to your daughter and her confidence in her playing. She has to feel so good hearing her die hard parents brag about the rankings and the team knowing she did not help get the team there. It’s a game and it’s about your child playing a game, learning and having fun! The key word here is PLAYING if your not on the field your not going to get better and your daughter is not going to be seen no matter what rankling you’re team is. More parents should try to look at the bigger picture and realize that the best team for your child to be on is one that values them as a player not a bench warmer. Also see how the 23’s are quiet right now. Well that’s because the top (maybe 15 girls) are all visiting schools right now while the others are waiting by the phone. Sad but true so if your the top player or a coaches daughter you should of course stay if your not you should run. If the coaches didn’t believe enough in your kid to play them do you really think they are going to help you play in college? Your better off being at a smaller tournament playing in the game then watching the game at the biggest tournaments.

Yeah, they are known as Magnet Parents. Too concerned about what’s sticking on their the rear of their cars, than about the true advancement of their daughters. Realize it’s hard to leave a club with a lot of vested time, but sometimes just need to take a leap of faith. Make sure to investigate the potential new club, coaches and culture. Sometimes not always greener, but sometimes it is.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy

Its always the same year after year. The top girls play and they are seen. The rest are thrown in from time to time to keep the parents happy. The top players (like 12 girls) get committed and then the claws come out. The once die hard parents who thought their kid would be able to go wherever she’s wanted because she wore a certain jersey and traveled every weekend to MAYBE see some playing time is now slapped into reality once 11th
Grade comes. So now they are scrambling and don’t understand why their child has not seen much interest because they are on a top ranked team and their once loved club/team/coach is now horrible and it’s so political. The main thing is for your child to feel confident and if your on a team that doesn’t play your child or if they do play her but it’s only for a couple of minutes here and there you should be really thinking about what that’s doing to your daughter and her confidence in her playing. She has to feel so good hearing her die hard parents brag about the rankings and the team knowing she did not help get the team there. It’s a game and it’s about your child playing a game, learning and having fun! The key word here is PLAYING if your not on the field your not going to get better and your daughter is not going to be seen no matter what rankling you’re team is. More parents should try to look at the bigger picture and realize that the best team for your child to be on is one that values them as a player not a bench warmer. Also see how the 23’s are quiet right now. Well that’s because the top (maybe 15 girls) are all visiting schools right now while the others are waiting by the phone. Sad but true so if your the top player or a coaches daughter you should of course stay if your not you should run. If the coaches didn’t believe enough in your kid to play them do you really think they are going to help you play in college? Your better off being at a smaller tournament playing in the game then watching the game at the biggest tournaments.

The bottom line it's a big business. Soccer is even worse. Would any medical professional think it's a good idea to go from a soccer practice or game on to a lacrosse game or practice. There are Dr's who now specialize in over use injuries. Think about that, youth sports has created a whole new medical field. Do any clubs in any sport discuss the importance of rest and recovery? Rest and recovery doesn't make any money. For those parents who were athletes or had friends who were athletes, how many of you or your friends required surgery or pt as a kid? Probably very few, that's because you didn't have 9 or 10 games and or practices in a week. There's a reason the ncaa and professional leagues have rules in place on practice times, because too much is not safe even for adults. I think the drama would diminish dramatically for all clubs and all sports, if there was a little more emphasis on development in a healthy way and a little less focus on $. I would think if a club ran things in a healthy way they'd more than ,make up lost revenue on volume. People would be signing up in droves to be on the Z team.The pendulum always swings. I'd be willing to bet that our children won't put their kids through what we put them through.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bottom line it's a big business. Soccer is even worse. Would any medical professional think it's a good idea to go from a soccer practice or game on to a lacrosse game or practice. There are Dr's who now specialize in over use injuries. Think about that, youth sports has created a whole new medical field. Do any clubs in any sport discuss the importance of rest and recovery? Rest and recovery doesn't make any money. For those parents who were athletes or had friends who were athletes, how many of you or your friends required surgery or pt as a kid? Probably very few, that's because you didn't have 9 or 10 games and or practices in a week. There's a reason the ncaa and professional leagues have rules in place on practice times, because too much is not safe even for adults. I think the drama would diminish dramatically for all clubs and all sports, if there was a little more emphasis on development in a healthy way and a little less focus on $. I would think if a club ran things in a healthy way they'd more than ,make up lost revenue on volume. People would be signing up in droves to be on the Z team.The pendulum always swings. I'd be willing to bet that our children won't put their kids through what we put them through.

Lax is Life. Duh. Get a clue.
So is that d team still a thing with so many kids leaving ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So is that d team still a thing with so many kids leaving ?

Regarding what post?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy

Its always the same year after year. The top girls play and they are seen. The rest are thrown in from time to time to keep the parents happy. The top players (like 12 girls) get committed and then the claws come out. The once die hard parents who thought their kid would be able to go wherever she’s wanted because she wore a certain jersey and traveled every weekend to MAYBE see some playing time is now slapped into reality once 11th
Grade comes. So now they are scrambling and don’t understand why their child has not seen much interest because they are on a top ranked team and their once loved club/team/coach is now horrible and it’s so political. The main thing is for your child to feel confident and if your on a team that doesn’t play your child or if they do play her but it’s only for a couple of minutes here and there you should be really thinking about what that’s doing to your daughter and her confidence in her playing. She has to feel so good hearing her die hard parents brag about the rankings and the team knowing she did not help get the team there. It’s a game and it’s about your child playing a game, learning and having fun! The key word here is PLAYING if your not on the field your not going to get better and your daughter is not going to be seen no matter what rankling you’re team is. More parents should try to look at the bigger picture and realize that the best team for your child to be on is one that values them as a player not a bench warmer. Also see how the 23’s are quiet right now. Well that’s because the top (maybe 15 girls) are all visiting schools right now while the others are waiting by the phone. Sad but true so if your the top player or a coaches daughter you should of course stay if your not you should run. If the coaches didn’t believe enough in your kid to play them do you really think they are going to help you play in college? Your better off being at a smaller tournament playing in the game then watching the game at the biggest tournaments.

The bottom line it's a big business. Soccer is even worse. Would any medical professional think it's a good idea to go from a soccer practice or game on to a lacrosse game or practice. There are Dr's who now specialize in over use injuries. Think about that, youth sports has created a whole new medical field. Do any clubs in any sport discuss the importance of rest and recovery? Rest and recovery doesn't make any money. For those parents who were athletes or had friends who were athletes, how many of you or your friends required surgery or pt as a kid? Probably very few, that's because you didn't have 9 or 10 games and or practices in a week. There's a reason the ncaa and professional leagues have rules in place on practice times, because too much is not safe even for adults. I think the drama would diminish dramatically for all clubs and all sports, if there was a little more emphasis on development in a healthy way and a little less focus on $. I would think if a club ran things in a healthy way they'd more than ,make up lost revenue on volume. People would be signing up in droves to be on the Z team.The pendulum always swings. I'd be willing to bet that our children won't put their kids through what we put them through.

I would agree. I would also add that these kids are urged to compete in multiple sports. That’s all great till you tear an ACL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 2 YJ 24 teams are solid. (Wiener & Ramos) Kildare isnt that far behind and O'Sullivan had a great summer. Bottom line is that 2 YJ 24 teams are ranked higher than any other LI team, then you have Legacy, Liberty and YJ Kildare. So I think the bees are alive and swarming.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was checking 2023 back of the cage to see where some girls were committing and it seems 91 2023 team is about to fold. Bad news for the 24 team if is it does. As far as YJ their top team is still good. A lot of talent bailed so whatever is left on that D team is slim pickins


Fake news

It could be. Just simply stating what I read. Sorry if I offended you buddy

Keep playing on YJ B,C,D teams, lol. Wait till recruiting time. Coaches only want to watch the A team. If you don’t play on the A team, be prepared to be recruited to lower D1, or D2, D3. Not that there is anything wrong with that but it’s better you know this now then later.Harsh reality about to hit!
Do any of you parents recall all these ACL tears playing sports , when we were our kids ages? Geesh!! Must be overuse injury!? Maybe we should go back to keeping sports in a season and not freaking year round! Crazy amount of ACL tears
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of you parents recall all these ACL tears playing sports , when we were our kids ages? Geesh!! Must be overuse injury!? Maybe we should go back to keeping sports in a season and not freaking year round! Crazy amount of ACL tears


Unfortunately if you’re not playing year round you won’t be seen or recruited given the climate of the recruiting world
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of you parents recall all these ACL tears playing sports , when we were our kids ages? Geesh!! Must be overuse injury!? Maybe we should go back to keeping sports in a season and not freaking year round! Crazy amount of ACL tears


Unfortunately if you’re not playing year round you won’t be seen or recruited given the climate of the recruiting world

Thats completely false. That’s what tournament and club directors tell you to sell their product.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of you parents recall all these ACL tears playing sports , when we were our kids ages? Geesh!! Must be overuse injury!? Maybe we should go back to keeping sports in a season and not freaking year round! Crazy amount of ACL tears


Unfortunately if you’re not playing year round you won’t be seen or recruited given the climate of the recruiting world

That’s just not true. That’s what the clubs and tournament directors want you to believe.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of you parents recall all these ACL tears playing sports , when we were our kids ages? Geesh!! Must be overuse injury!? Maybe we should go back to keeping sports in a season and not freaking year round! Crazy amount of ACL tears


Unfortunately if you’re not playing year round you won’t be seen or recruited given the climate of the recruiting world

Thats completely false. That’s what tournament and club directors tell you to sell their product.

Odd statement about playing year round to be seen. What’s
Better? Playing year round and potentially being sidelined for months due to over use injury or playing a little less and being strong, rested and healthy so you’re playing at you best when and if you are seen. Something to think about.
Just curious, what’s the deal with American Select ? Looking at the rosters it looks a YJ only thing ? Yes I saw a few other programs sprinkled in , but 90 percent YJ . Any thoughts on this? Sorry if this has already been discussed, I don’t visit the site often .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just curious, what’s the deal with American Select ? Looking at the rosters it looks a YJ only thing ? Yes I saw a few other programs sprinkled in , but 90 percent YJ . Any thoughts on this? Sorry if this has already been discussed, I don’t visit the site often .

It seems like a lot of the girls who were not YJ girls decided to try out for Under Armour instead. The two events were run at the same time and Under Armour has been around and proven for a lot longer. It was American Selects first year. Considering the YJ directors were running AS, that’s where the YJ top players went.
Ah ok thanks
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

23s just getting started. You are better off looking at the 22s
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

Way, way too early to be looking at 23 commitments! Especially after Covid year last year put a wrench in the system. Going to be awhile still. Check back 9/1/22!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

In my opinion, it’s too late the make a change regardless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

Says more about the players that play for these clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

23s just getting started. You are better off looking at the 22s

True. Not every girl commits to the first or second school they visit, unless it's their dream school. Most girls are doing several official/unofficial visits any seeing the schools/meeting the coaches before they decide. I never understood why some girls jump at the first offer. Check back mid October. Most of the top recruits will commit by then.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just curious, what’s the deal with American Select ? Looking at the rosters it looks a YJ only thing ? Yes I saw a few other programs sprinkled in , but 90 percent YJ . Any thoughts on this? Sorry if this has already been discussed, I don’t visit the site often .

It seems like a lot of the girls who were not YJ girls decided to try out for Under Armour instead. The two events were run at the same time and Under Armour has been around and proven for a lot longer. It was American Selects first year. Considering the YJ directors were running AS, that’s where the YJ top players went.


Traditionally the Under Armour Underclass Tournament has been the most competitive HS event out there. Even in years when YJ's were not involved in the selection process or coaching the majority of the team was YJ's. AS is run by certain clubs and now both events are somewhat watered down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

YJ also has a BC commit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

Amazing! I thought I was the only one who relaized that!!
Go jesters. Didn’t know west Babylon players play for jesters. Thought they were all TGs. Congratulations to the Jesters as they prove they are the up and coming beasts TGs are still waiting by the phone drinking the Kool aid.
TG
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games
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Go jesters. Didn’t know west Babylon players play for jesters. Thought they were all TGs. Congratulations to the Jesters as they prove they are the up and coming beasts TGs are still waiting by the phone drinking the Kool aid.

Easy there. Jesters have two recruits. Daddy ball daughter who took the first offer she got, after a bunch of other girls turned the spot down, and former TG girl, who Jesters had nothing to do with her recruiting. TG has two big commitments so far, and a few more coming this weekend, don't you worry! Sad that some people approach the college commitment process as a race.
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games


That is true. If you think coaches only look at the top clubs for athletes your so wrong but I’m sure your one of those dad living through their daughter as she sits the bench at that top club. The best thing you could do for your daughter and her lax career is put her on a team that checks all the boxes. The main thing is that they see value in your daughter as a player and has a good coach not just Some Dad screaming like a lunatic. Also a team that plays your daughter. You can go to the best tournaments but if your not playing what good will that do for her? If your club coach is not playing your daughter how can he promote her? How can a coach help get a girl recruited when he himself will not even play her? It’s common sense! The top athletes that play will be the ones they promote. The rest fall by the side. This happens constantly and you will always have the parents on here saying you have to be at the top club but those same parents are also the ones who are so quite once no college coaches are reaching out.
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Go jesters. Didn’t know west Babylon players play for jesters. Thought they were all TGs. Congratulations to the Jesters as they prove they are the up and coming beasts TGs are still waiting by the phone drinking the Kool aid.

Easy there. Jesters have two recruits. Daddy ball daughter who took the first offer she got, after a bunch of other girls turned the spot down, and former TG girl, who Jesters had nothing to do with her recruiting. TG has two big commitments so far, and a few more coming this weekend, don't you worry! Sad that some people approach the college commitment process as a race.

Cuse commit from Jesters is an amazing player, so pace yourself on your detest parade. No one said it was a race, shame you feel the need to come on here and belittle a KID who has made a great accomplishment. Congrats to the TG kids with big commitments as well !! (so how easy that was??) LONG ISLAND 2023's getting a lot of love from some big time programs
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Go jesters. Didn’t know west Babylon players play for jesters. Thought they were all TGs. Congratulations to the Jesters as they prove they are the up and coming beasts TGs are still waiting by the phone drinking the Kool aid.

Easy there. Jesters have two recruits. Daddy ball daughter who took the first offer she got, after a bunch of other girls turned the spot down, and former TG girl, who Jesters had nothing to do with her recruiting. TG has two big commitments so far, and a few more coming this weekend, don't you worry! Sad that some people approach the college commitment process as a race.

Grow up! Coward hiding behind anonymity. Your jealousy is gross!
......And yet......more kids from Connecticut have committed to top programs than LI. Please open your eyes to the big wide world of athletes out there.
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games

That’s why one of the above posts stated you have to play in the most competitive tournaments. If your team is not in those tournaments it’s harder to be seen. Your team can lose every game but you have to be there, coaches want to see players compete against the best competition. That is what made UA Underclass so good, it was the most competitive HS Lacrosse around.
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Go jesters. Didn’t know west Babylon players play for jesters. Thought they were all TGs. Congratulations to the Jesters as they prove they are the up and coming beasts TGs are still waiting by the phone drinking the Kool aid.

Easy there. Jesters have two recruits. Daddy ball daughter who took the first offer she got, after a bunch of other girls turned the spot down, and former TG girl, who Jesters had nothing to do with her recruiting. TG has two big commitments so far, and a few more coming this weekend, don't you worry! Sad that some people approach the college commitment process as a race.

Grow up! Coward hiding behind anonymity. Your jealousy is gross!

So now you're mad that someone fired back after you threw the initial insult? Don't start a fire if you don't want to get burned!
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games

That’s why one of the above posts stated you have to play in the most competitive tournaments. If your team is not in those tournaments it’s harder to be seen. Your team can lose every game but you have to be there, coaches want to see players compete against the best competition. That is what made UA Underclass so good, it was the most competitive HS Lacrosse around.

UA underclass was not the “most” competitive, as most of the top LI girls were at AS. If you are talking 24 and 25s.
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games

That’s why one of the above posts stated you have to play in the most competitive tournaments. If your team is not in those tournaments it’s harder to be seen. Your team can lose every game but you have to be there, coaches want to see players compete against the best competition. That is what made UA Underclass so good, it was the most competitive HS Lacrosse around.

UA underclass was not the “most” competitive, as most of the top LI girls were at AS. If you are talking 24 and 25s.

Do not know where the top girls were but I do know that both events are now watered down and AS is more political than UA ever was. YJ players traditionally made up the bulk of the UA Rosters even in years when no YJ connected people were involved in coaching or evaluating.
UA underclass was not the “most” competitive, as most of the top LI girls were at AS. If you are talking 24 and 25s.[/quote]

Do not know where the top girls were but I do know that both events are now watered down and AS is more political than UA ever was. YJ players traditionally made up the bulk of the UA Rosters even in years when no YJ connected people were involved in coaching or evaluating.[/quote]

I dont know why this is still a conversation. Lots of solid 24's at UA, and the top YJ 25's for sure from what I heard. Next year everyone can complain about being able to do both.
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games

That’s why one of the above posts stated you have to play in the most competitive tournaments. If your team is not in those tournaments it’s harder to be seen. Your team can lose every game but you have to be there, coaches want to see players compete against the best competition. That is what made UA Underclass so good, it was the most competitive HS Lacrosse around.

What tournaments are the top tournaments for this fall?
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Parents suggested we look at where 23s commit to see if we made the right choice in where we chose to play this year. So far it seems Ywllow jackets has a Norte dame, Yale and Syracuse commit and Jesters has a BC and Syracuse commit . Any other programs with solid 23 commits yet? Says a lot about the level of the clubs mentioned above.

No, it says a lot about the players. Top Tier (top 20 - 25 girls per grade from from Long Island) would have the same opportunities no matter what club they play for. Coaches especially at the top college programs recruit players not clubs. As long as a legit player gets to play in the most competitive tournaments and is seen by the college coaches she will get offers from the top programs if she is legit. It doesn't matter what club the player is from.


So true it’s about the athletes nothing to do with the club. So just Keep wearing that gear thinking it’s going to do something for your kid.

That isn’t true… you could be a great athlete but if you’re on a lousy team you won’t have schools at your games

That’s why one of the above posts stated you have to play in the most competitive tournaments. If your team is not in those tournaments it’s harder to be seen. Your team can lose every game but you have to be there, coaches want to see players compete against the best competition. That is what made UA Underclass so good, it was the most competitive HS Lacrosse around.

What tournaments are the top tournaments for this fall?

The ones that have the top teams ;-)
Fall tournaments irrelevant for 24's. may see a college coach wander by a 24 field but they'll be focusing on 23's and their own fall ball.
The Presidents Cup
Mid Atlantic Showcase
Primetime
Live Love Lacrosse
Lax 4 the. cure
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Fall tournaments irrelevant for 24's. may see a college coach wander by a 24 field but they'll be focusing on 23's and their own fall ball.

You clearly have no background on recruiting. There will certainly be schools at 24 games this fall
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The Presidents Cup
Mid Atlantic Showcase
Primetime
Live Love Lacrosse
Lax 4 the. cure

Top clubs go to these if you’re not in them there’s a reason
No there won’t be
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next
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Fall tournaments irrelevant for 24's. may see a college coach wander by a 24 field but they'll be focusing on 23's and their own fall ball.

You clearly have no background on recruiting. There will certainly be schools at 24 games this fall

LOL if you only knew
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[quote=Anonymous]No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next[/quote

Lol love the newbies who are clueless. 23 calls are done what a knucklehead
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Hilarious. Coaches are still dealing w the 22’s and just started the 23’s, which many college coaches are calling one of the most talented pool of recruits they have seen in years. With the larger than ever college rosters thanks to the 5th year and transfer portal, the 24’s will be fortunate to get a lot of attention in the Summer of ‘22 if things continue to trend as they have been.
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Hilarious. Coaches are still dealing w the 22’s and just started the 23’s, which many college coaches are calling one of the most talented pool of recruits they have seen in years. With the larger than ever college rosters thanks to the 5th year and transfer portal, the 24’s will be fortunate to get a lot of attention in the Summer of ‘22 if things continue to trend as they have been.

Exactly. Feel bad for these clueless people.
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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Hmm. why would d3 coaches be looking at 24's this fall when they are generally 8 to 12 months behind d1 on committing kids. Good try though!
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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Hmm. why would d3 coaches be looking at 24's this fall when they are generally 8 to 12 months behind d1 on committing kids. Good try though!


Are D3 coaches going after the same pool of kids though?
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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Hmm. why would d3 coaches be looking at 24's this fall when they are generally 8 to 12 months behind d1 on committing kids. Good try though!


Are D3 coaches going after the same pool of kids though?

Never been through the process yet, are D3 coaches allowed to contact girls at anytime during the year , unlike D1 coaches? Do They have different rules?
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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Hmm. why would d3 coaches be looking at 24's this fall when they are generally 8 to 12 months behind d1 on committing kids. Good try though!


Are D3 coaches going after the same pool of kids though?


The D3 coaches are doing the trickle down time line now when all the kids that thought they’d get D1 fall commits don’t, these coaches will looked at 24s and other 23s so they can pick up the 23 fall out and be prepared for the 24s. There will also be d2 and D1 at 24 tournaments like presidents cup. If you think otherwise, good luck to your kid
D3 has no restrictions, they can contact now if they wanted to
Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school
Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

2024 is a weak class. They will have no where near the attention of the 2023s. Heard it from several coaches
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

Let the fools be fools.
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

2024 is a weak class. They will have no where near the attention of the 2023s. Heard it from several coaches

How did you hear it from several coaches? Please do tell?
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Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

Let the fools be fools.

Our recruiting director told us don’t expect much in terms of coaches at fall tournaments for 2024. I guess she would know.
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Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.

According to parents and players, he’s still the head coach.
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

Let the fools be fools.

Our recruiting director told us don’t expect much in terms of coaches at fall tournaments for 2024. I guess she would know.

Your recruiting director probably hasn’t been doing her job right
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Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.

He’s still part of the staff. Tilts and him are co-coaches. Team has a way better vibe this year than in the past with this new energy. It’s my understanding she’s also helping the b team out.
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?
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Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.
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Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry
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Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.

According to parents and players, he’s still the head coach.

That would be totally unfortunate fur that team. Another team built around coaches kid??
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Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

But compared to the A kids there are bcd kids…
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No there won’t be

You’re a clown. They most certainly will be. 23 calls are done. You didn’t get that call it ain’t coming. 24s up next

Either you’re kidding or really misinformed. Hopefully the former.

I have had two other daughters go through recruitment and my daughter had D3 coaches on the sideline last year as a 24. Will BC be on our sidelines this fall, no, but there will be coaches especially if your kid is handling recruiting properly and if you are in a good club going to events like presidents cup
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Hmm. why would d3 coaches be looking at 24's this fall when they are generally 8 to 12 months behind d1 on committing kids. Good try though!

Because they are doing their homework, and do not have same rules as D1 coaches as far as contacting. They will be more than ready to scoop up the top talent if they do t go D1!
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

2024 is a weak class. They will have no where near the attention of the 2023s. Heard it from several coaches

How would coaches know that already? Pretty much missed a whole year last year due to Covid in seeing the 24s play anything! I know plenty of 24s who have been non stop training throughout. Let’s wait and see this year! If coaches saying it’s a weak class, based on what?
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Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

2024 is a weak class. They will have no where near the attention of the 2023s. Heard it from several coaches

How would coaches know that already? Pretty much missed a whole year last year due to Covid in seeing the 24s play anything! I know plenty of 24s who have been non stop training throughout. Let’s wait and see this year! If coaches saying it’s a weak class, based on what?

I’ve heard that the 24 group is also a strong group
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Same parents who don’t think coaches will be looking at 24s this year are the same coaches that think their cruddy club will help get them into a top 10 school

2024 is a weak class. They will have no where near the attention of the 2023s. Heard it from several coaches

How would coaches know that already? Pretty much missed a whole year last year due to Covid in seeing the 24s play anything! I know plenty of 24s who have been non stop training throughout. Let’s wait and see this year! If coaches saying it’s a weak class, based on what?

I’ve heard that the 24 group is also a strong group

Anyone who knows anything about lacrosse, and actually watches multiple age groups, will be able to tell you 24s are a down year from a talent perspective.
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Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.

According to parents and players, he’s still the head coach.

That would be totally unfortunate fur that team. Another team built around coaches kid??

Yes it’s surely unfortunate.
Plenty of other good options at 2024.
Do your homework.
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Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than
amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry



Obviously a YJ parent! Lol So sad how many of the YJ are such die hards until their kid gets no looks. If your a starter on the A team then it pays to to stay at YJ other then that you will be stuck with a bunch of delusional parents who think their kid is the most amazing bench warmer and think saying they “play” for YJ is going to get them a scholarship
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the jesters daddy 24 coach mentioned over the summer still coaching? Has the club shifted coaching staff for any of their 24 teams yet? I don’t see anything about who coaches which teams on the website.

I think he is still part of the coaching staff. Just not head coach? They brought in Tilts as the head coach, from what I hear.

According to parents and players, he’s still the head coach.

That would be totally unfortunate fur that team. Another team built around coaches kid??

Yes it’s surely unfortunate.
Plenty of other good options at 2024.
Do your homework.

Parents and players are the place to go for accurate information LOL (sarcasm alert for the dim-witted)
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.

Still waiting for that "list" of YJ B,C,D players who went on to play at top 20 schools. Guess I will be waiting a loooong time!
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Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

I mean a lot of people do this. Think about how many girls from 91 ownership play for YJ to begin with, only one owner that has their kid in the program. Everyone will do what’s best for their kid.
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Did O’Sullivan’s daughter leave the team and go to Ramos? How do you explain that to the parents as a coach? ‘I really believe in this team and we can win! I just don’t have any confidence that I can coach this team and didn’t want to see my daughter suffer for it.’

Maybe I am wrong, it just seems like a slap in the face to his players.

I mean a lot of people do this. Think about how many girls from 91 ownership play for YJ to begin with, only one owner that has their kid in the program. Everyone will do what’s best for their kid.

Parents will always put their kids in the place that will help them the most, doesn’t mean it doesn’t show a lack of confidence in the teams they abandon
This actually make me laugh - YJ B team plays all of the other clubs A teams. So once again misinformed parent on here hoping that they made the right decision by going to one of those clubs - Legacy, Jesters TG etc... Coaches come to see players not teams, obviously the better the team and players the better the coaches that will line the sideline. Good luck, to all of you delusional parents. Most normal people don't care about there kid being on a top 20 team, they want their kid to be happy and get an education. Its a long road, you will be better off when you stop comparing your kid to others and your team to others. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.
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This actually make me laugh - YJ B team plays all of the other clubs A teams. So once again misinformed parent on here hoping that they made the right decision by going to one of those clubs - Legacy, Jesters TG etc... Coaches come to see players not teams, obviously the better the team and players the better the coaches that will line the sideline. Good luck, to all of you delusional parents. Most normal people don't care about there kid being on a top 20 team, they want their kid to be happy and get an education. Its a long road, you will be better off when you stop comparing your kid to others and your team to others. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.

It just don’t matter folks as many 23’s are finding out the clubs “help” the players that don’t need the help. The rest of you will find a home it may just take some time.
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This actually make me laugh - YJ B team plays all of the other clubs A teams. So once again misinformed parent on here hoping that they made the right decision by going to one of those clubs - Legacy, Jesters TG etc... Coaches come to see players not teams, obviously the better the team and players the better the coaches that will line the sideline. Good luck, to all of you delusional parents. Most normal people don't care about there kid being on a top 20 team, they want their kid to be happy and get an education. Its a long road, you will be better off when you stop comparing your kid to others and your team to others. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.

How about answer the question. If You play on a YJ team othe than A, what are your chances of being recruited to a top 20 program? If you don’t care, that’s great, but please go into next year with your eyes open!
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This actually make me laugh - YJ B team plays all of the other clubs A teams. So once again misinformed parent on here hoping that they made the right decision by going to one of those clubs - Legacy, Jesters TG etc... Coaches come to see players not teams, obviously the better the team and players the better the coaches that will line the sideline. Good luck, to all of you delusional parents. Most normal people don't care about there kid being on a top 20 team, they want their kid to be happy and get an education. Its a long road, you will be better off when you stop comparing your kid to others and your team to others. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.

How about answer the question. If You play on a YJ team othe than A, what are your chances of being recruited to a top 20 program? If you don’t care, that’s great, but please go into next year with your eyes open!

If you are on the second team still have a good shot! rumor has it 2023 YJB getting lots interest in top 20 schools but you are mostly on your own! You have to work at it!
Are you allowed to play for an additional tournament team when you play for a different club?
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Are you allowed to play for an additional tournament team when you play for a different club?

Sure, why not? Your club should take precedence for games and practices, but otherwise it shouldn’t be a problem as all your kid is doing is getting better by playing. Win for everyone
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Are you allowed to play for an additional tournament team when you play for a different club?

Is the “tournament team” a competing club to yours during the regular season? Or, is it just a bunch of girls put together from different clubs to play extra tournaments?
Stop it now. Tilts is a good coach for all mommie and daddies AND she will make a ridiculous amount of money shaking down all of those poor parents that the drink the kool-aide. 91 to Jesters? How many top 20 with 91. And poor "
'24 Jesters will have an even worse chance. I guess she's shaken 91 down for their last penny. On to the next ------
Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.
Fortunately The LI team played relatively weak competition. They needed that the team team loaded with B team players from B team programs. We don't say B team players meaning they are not top tier players. I mean that they literally play on the the B team in their age group at their club. They are not even starters that made UA. Please explain that. I'm not at all a disgruntled parent of 24 -25 team
We are disgruntled that we sent a LI team to play in what used to be elite event seen all over US lacrosse community. A little embarrassed for LI regardless of how far they may or may not got to.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you allowed to play for an additional tournament team when you play for a different club?

Is the “tournament team” a competing club to yours during the regular season? Or, is it just a bunch of girls put together from different clubs to play extra tournaments?

Long Island has a bunch of teams like this- tribe, lightening, etc. nothing wrong with kids getting more reps. They mostly play local events.
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Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.

If you’re referring to power she’s doing it for free for kids she trains. She isn’t making a penny off of it. All we paid for was uniforms. You clearly have a bone to pick with the girl, but when she made the team it was requested by a few of us who train with her. She also donated all of the money she made in August to wounded warrior. You have your facts wrong but I guess if hiding on the internet making crazy claims is your thing keep on going.
Liberty is going to have another tough year without 1 strong line to at least pick up the team. TG lost 1 player that played and cut a bunch.TG picked up goalie and still have their 2 of the top goal scorers.
.And most importantly picked up one of best girls on the draw on all teams. The Jesters added a bunch of new girls. A couple of them will definitely help make that team better and upset a few parents who used to get a lot of playing time. They are just a couple of couple of years away from being a competitive team. A team to fear in the future? The 25 and we hear a super super strong 26 team. Yes they are still babies but that's what is going around. We will see.
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Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.

We were on jesters before Tilts came. It’s a good organization. Is the fact that she’s a positive female role model for my kids a positive? Obviously. Since she came onto the team we have noticed improvement in our daughters commitment to the sport and confidence. If we are drinking the kool-aid, it’s a refreshing batch compared to the other Long Island coaches we have experienced.
PLEASE! PLEASE! I BEG OF YOU! PLEASE GET OFF THE CHAT COACH!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you allowed to play for an additional tournament team when you play for a different club?

Is the “tournament team” a competing club to yours during the regular season? Or, is it just a bunch of girls put together from different clubs to play extra tournaments?

Long Island has a bunch of teams like this- tribe, lightening, etc. nothing wrong with kids getting more reps. They mostly play local events.

Totally allowed and a non issue. Most coaches are happy to see the players getting the reps in
Club run by questionable people/person and his history. Google him/her but I'm sure everyone knows already. But it was in the past. Everyone has a past.
Club run by questionable people/person and his history. Google him/her but I'm sure everyone knows already. But it was in the past. Everyone has a past.
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Stop it now. Tilts is a good coach for all mommie and daddies AND she will make a ridiculous amount of money shaking down all of those poor parents that the drink the kool-aide. 91 to Jesters? How many top 20 with 91. And poor "
'24 Jesters will have an even worse chance. I guess she's shaken 91 down for their last penny. On to the next ------

No one even brought her up? The same one person trying to go after her over and over. Bro we get it, you don’t like her for whatever reason. I’ve never met this chick but you need to let it go man it’s borderline stalkerish. Have a drink on me buddy.
How's her recruiting history?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
This actually make me laugh - YJ B team plays all of the other clubs A teams. So once again misinformed parent on here hoping that they made the right decision by going to one of those clubs - Legacy, Jesters TG etc... Coaches come to see players not teams, obviously the better the team and players the better the coaches that will line the sideline. Good luck, to all of you delusional parents. Most normal people don't care about there kid being on a top 20 team, they want their kid to be happy and get an education. Its a long road, you will be better off when you stop comparing your kid to others and your team to others. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Kildare the d team now? The website arranged it sort of misleading?

B,C,D, etc. Makes no difference. Very slim chance that anyone not playing on the top (A) team will be recruited to a competitive D1 program. Of course that only matters if that is in the plan for your daughter. Sheep keep handing over the cash to play on a team with 26 girls and slick talking coaches.

Obviously not a YJ parent! Please , check your facts. Go back to previous years and see YJ D1 commitments! Way more than amount of players on 1 “A” team! And, I will bet way more than the current team you play for. YJs will get more attention than your team… sorry

Lol, the list is extremely short when it comes to any player not on A team committing to a top 20 school. Maybe a couple Stony Brook commits thrown in and one or two others, but that's it. You're about to find out the hard way. Prove me wrong. Let's hear it! If you are a YJ B, C,D player, and can get onto a team like Jesters, TG, or Legacy, you would be in a MUCH better situation going into recruiting. But keep drinking that YJ juice with your blindfold on if that makes you happy.

How about answer the question. If You play on a YJ team othe than A, what are your chances of being recruited to a top 20 program? If you don’t care, that’s great, but please go into next year with your eyes open!

Did we ever get this answer or are we still waiting…
People on here taking about all these clubs and coaches pockets. It is a business. Clubs are meant to make money. The money keeps them in business. If you’ve ever coached or reffed , you’d know that coaches who are parents usually get free tuition for their club. Coaches who aren’t parents make very little money off the club. The majority of coaches make their money training. Colbert, Kilgus, Smith, Spallina, Rose, Kotowski, Weiner, Tilts, Levy, Windsor. You name a name, they likely are training kids privately. For most coaches, the money you make off the private lessons is how you are able to keep coaching because you enjoy it. If you are a parent who had coached in any sense, you’d know exactly what I’m talking about. There is nothing wrong with coaches, directors, and club owners training kids. If anything, I am grateful there is a large number of trainers and my daughters and sons can essentially pick from dozens until they find one that matches what they’re looking for.

Who cares who who trains with? Who cares if one trainer charges $30 and one charges $10000. Each family has the ability to choose if they send a kid to get training or not and with whom they send them to. There is no reason anyone should care what others choose to do in their free time. If you kid and their teammates are showing up to practices and games and are holding their own, who cares who helps them when they aren’t in your uniform.

Some of y’all have way too much time to overthink these days.
One name. Shannon Smith. Don't sleep on any team with her name on it. A strong team player and a phone call puts any kid leaps and bounds above any coach. Even BOTC's favorite, Tilts. Even more than YJ. Ok maybe not but close.
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Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.

We have Kilgus to. If we’re talking about names we have a few over here to pick from. Come on over and you can have some fun recruiting names to throw around to
Right on the money! No pun intended! What a money grub and what has she ever achieved? Other than begging for money anyway possible. She does make parents smile with Glee while preparing them to play at UNC!!! To be honest she is great with the children and parents.
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PLEASE! PLEASE! I BEG OF YOU! PLEASE GET OFF THE CHAT COACH!

Not coach but will repeat it again in case you needed me too. She isn’t making any money of the pick up team. Feel free to ask any parent of any kid on the roster or the coaches (plural) and you’ll get the same response.
We love the my coach is better fight. Are these directors owners and trainers hurting you somehow? Seems pretty personal
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People on here taking about all these clubs and coaches pockets. It is a business. Clubs are meant to make money. The money keeps them in business. If you’ve ever coached or reffed , you’d know that coaches who are parents usually get free tuition for their club. Coaches who aren’t parents make very little money off the club. The majority of coaches make their money training. Colbert, Kilgus, Smith, Spallina, Rose, Kotowski, Weiner, Tilts, Levy, Windsor. You name a name, they likely are training kids privately. For most coaches, the money you make off the private lessons is how you are able to keep coaching because you enjoy it. If you are a parent who had coached in any sense, you’d know exactly what I’m talking about. There is nothing wrong with coaches, directors, and club owners training kids. If anything, I am grateful there is a large number of trainers and my daughters and sons can essentially pick from dozens until they find one that matches what they’re looking for.

Who cares who who trains with? Who cares if one trainer charges $30 and one charges $10000. Each family has the ability to choose if they send a kid to get training or not and with whom they send them to. There is no reason anyone should care what others choose to do in their free time. If you kid and their teammates are showing up to practices and games and are holding their own, who cares who helps them when they aren’t in your uniform.

Some of y’all have way too much time to overthink these days.

Thank you for blessing this forum with some sanity
Maybe so but 90% . Can't hurt when they were at 50% and still won a few
How many times can the same angry person behind a screen reword the same post in one hour?

This isn’t the “I’m insecure and need to compensate for my lack of coaching talent so let’s bad mouth every other team and coach” thread. Maybe you should try elsewhere no one wants to hear ur nonsense opinions anymore.
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Club run by questionable people/person and his history. Google him/her but I'm sure everyone knows already. But it was in the past. Everyone has a past.

Are we talking about DK?
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Fortunately The LI team played relatively weak competition. They needed that the team team loaded with B team players from B team programs. We don't say B team players meaning they are not top tier players. I mean that they literally play on the the B team in their age group at their club. They are not even starters that made UA. Please explain that. I'm not at all a disgruntled parent of 24 -25 team
We are disgruntled that we sent a LI team to play in what used to be elite event seen all over US lacrosse community. A little embarrassed for LI regardless of how far they may or may not got to.

Where did they play? What tournament?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.

If you’re referring to power she’s doing it for free for kids she trains. She isn’t making a penny off of it. All we paid for was uniforms. You clearly have a bone to pick with the girl, but when she made the team it was requested by a few of us who train with her. She also donated all of the money she made in August to wounded warrior. You have your facts wrong but I guess if hiding on the internet making crazy claims is your thing keep on going.

Enough already. My daughter is a 23 who played on bandits and is now on 91. I saw the 24 thread active yesterday and read it and my husband tried to talk me out of posting but it’s still bothering me.

A few weeks ago, we didn’t realize Tilts had quit and texted her asking for some recruiting help. After telling us she no longer worked for 91, we offered to pay her to help us get my daughter on the right path for what she needs to be doing to get herself in the best spot. Tilts turned down the money and sat on the phone with us for nearly an hour to walk us through next steps. We didn’t seek her out for her name we went to her because she explains things in a way my that motivates my daughter and that she understands. Sorry if this doesn’t fit your narrative but it’s infuriating to watch horrendous things be said that are absolutely fiction.
Totally agree. She is one of the most authentic coaches on LI doing something she loves to do! Teaching girls to play lacrosse!! She’s not it in it to make money, like most others. Plus, the time she commits to the girls she trains with is all out of love for the sport! Her passion for teaching and inspiring young girls through the sport of lacrosse is unmatched on LI! All LI parents should be thankful that there are people in the “dog eat dog” world of lacrosse on LI like her. Too many others training our girls are doing it for the wrong reasons! Let’s not bash the one who truly wants to see ALL the LI girls succeed, no matter what club team they play for! She’s genuine and it’s rare here on LI. Thank you coach Tilts, you go girl! Keep inspiring girls to be THEIR best!❤️
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another Tilts money grab for a very average team. Unfortunately all of the Tilts Fan Club in the world will not help any of those poor 24 Jesters. Those parents probably think the Tilts name help them with the recruiting process. Day late and a dollar short for that team.

If you’re referring to power she’s doing it for free for kids she trains. She isn’t making a penny off of it. All we paid for was uniforms. You clearly have a bone to pick with the girl, but when she made the team it was requested by a few of us who train with her. She also donated all of the money she made in August to wounded warrior. You have your facts wrong but I guess if hiding on the internet making crazy claims is your thing keep on going.

Yeah, reading the above posts - One thing I deduced was a sense of jealousy towards Tilts. Having a coach who truly cares
about the advancement of her players as individuals - on the field, and in the classroom ...Oh the horror. They should take their slander somewhere else, or post their real names here if feeling courageous enough — doubt it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally agree. She is one of the most authentic coaches on LI doing something she loves to do! Teaching girls to play lacrosse!! She’s not it in it to make money, like most others. Plus, the time she commits to the girls she trains with is all out of love for the sport! Her passion for teaching and inspiring young girls through the sport of lacrosse is unmatched on LI! All LI parents should be thankful that there are people in the “dog eat dog” world of lacrosse on LI like her. Too many others training our girls are doing it for the wrong reasons! Let’s not bash the one who truly wants to see ALL the LI girls succeed, no matter what club team they play for! She’s genuine and it’s rare here on LI. Thank you coach Tilts, you go girl! Keep inspiring girls to be THEIR best!❤️

Great post, and couldn’t agree more. Been in the lacrosse industry for over 35 years now. Sadly, the quote ‘For
Love of the Game’ has been pretty much gone for quite some time. It’s nice to see, and hear about someone who still gets it.
Tilts get off the chat!
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Tilts get off the chat!

Nope! Not even a parent from Jesters. Just know the reputation of Tilts from lots of people. My daughter has also done a couple of training things in the past with her. Very nice and genuine individual. Once again, very rare to find her kind of genuine and caring nature on LI in the LAX arena. So, want to say, it’s refreshing and people should stop being negative. Need more positive people who raise our daughters up, no matter what level/team they play on. Be positive and stop all the negativity. Let’s route for all the LI girls/teams. #strongisland
Come in we all know it’s her on here promoting herself. Let her get her own topic and enough with the free advertisement
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Come in we all know it’s her on here promoting herself. Let her get her own topic and enough with the free advertisement

I am the furthest thing from a coach I WISH
Seriously! Not a coach! I am a parent who just thinks this thread needs to move past all the negativity and move toward what can help ALL the 24s going forward! It’s an important year for these girls! Please, HELPFUL info. for them and the parents is what we should be focusing on. Unfortunately , all this team talk stuff is going to become more about the individuals on teams in the recruiting years. Let’s try to help all the LI girls reach their goals. Positive, helpful info. Would be nice. Not coach/team bashing!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Come in we all know it’s her on here promoting herself. Let her get her own topic and enough with the free advertisement

You sir, or ma’am are embarrassment to the Long Island Lacrosse community
Ok coach
Regarding the Fall prospect camps, for a 2024/HS Sophmore player, does anyone who has already been through the process with other kids, feel the Fall camps are worth doing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok coach

Wow, you really are child-like. Sad. Praying that you are not a parent within the LI Lacrosse community.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the Fall prospect camps, for a 2024/HS Sophmore player, does anyone who has already been through the process with other kids, feel the Fall camps are worth doing?

Depends. For my daughter they were a total waste of time and money. Might have actually hurt her. She plays on a top team and gets plenty of exposure there. My experience is that camp Play is extremely selfish and if a girl gets put on a bad team it’s horrible. Some people say that certain schools only recruit from camps. This is false information. My daughter was recruited by several of those schools. I suppose camps could be beneficial to a girl who plays on a weak team or from a non hotbed area and does very well at the camp.
Pick 1 or 2 at most winter elite camps. Not the fall. The fall is much too busy looking at the 2023s. Do it December or January elite prospect day at a school you are interested in. Some of them will have coaches from other schools there as well. My daughter did this in her 9th grade winter. And she got a ton of mileage out of it. Yes it was at a top tier school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pick 1 or 2 at most winter elite camps. Not the fall. The fall is much too busy looking at the 2023s. Do it December or January elite prospect day at a school you are interested in. Some of them will have coaches from other schools there as well. My daughter did this in her 9th grade winter. And she got a ton of mileage out of it. Yes it was at a top tier school.

Assume same goes for Fall tournaments? Coaches too busy looking at 23's?
Yes. They are very busy with 2023s and some 2022s. Start with the emails. Make a long list. Use a recruiting Platform. Sports recruits or Connectlax. Have your daughter write a nice introductory letter. Wait till end of November and send. If you have a very short video attached that. After a that. Follow up monthly with emails. Until summer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes. They are very busy with 2023s and some 2022s. Start with the emails. Make a long list. Use a recruiting Platform. Sports recruits or Connectlax. Have your daughter write a nice introductory letter. Wait till end of November and send. If you have a very short video attached that. After a that. Follow up monthly with emails. Until summer

Are you saying President's Cup in the Fall is a waste of time? What qualifies you to say this?
IMO. The presidents cup is the 1st event That possibly could get some looks at the 2024s. It is late November.tye top tier and 2nd tier 23’s will be committed by then. Huge event. The coaches will be there but not so much lookikf at the 24s. use it for film not Because you think the college coaches will be on the sidelines. Get video. Or buy the video package and make a highlight reel. That’s what you can mail out with your introductory emails
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes. They are very busy with 2023s and some 2022s. Start with the emails. Make a long list. Use a recruiting Platform. Sports recruits or Connectlax. Have your daughter write a nice introductory letter. Wait till end of November and send. If you have a very short video attached that. After a that. Follow up monthly with emails. Until summer

Are you saying President's Cup in the Fall is a waste of time? What qualifies you to say this?

Coaches will be at presidents cup watching 24s. Anyone who says otherwise is very misinformed
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes. They are very busy with 2023s and some 2022s. Start with the emails. Make a long list. Use a recruiting Platform. Sports recruits or Connectlax. Have your daughter write a nice introductory letter. Wait till end of November and send. If you have a very short video attached that. After a that. Follow up monthly with emails. Until summer

Are you saying President's Cup in the Fall is a waste of time? What qualifies you to say this?

Coaches will be at presidents cup watching 24s. Anyone who says otherwise is very misinformed

Yep, a year is not that far off for them. They will always be looking for their next top recruit prospects. They Want to know/see what’s coming next. See if there is any particular top talent they need to keep a eye on. The top schools have identified their choices for this year. That’s in the works now. They are certainly thinking ahead as well.
The only 24a getting looked at at presidents cup would be the teams in the top A bracket there, the majority of 24s will not see any college coaches. This is generally the last big tourney that the 23s get a lot of exposure from the d1 schools before focusing on the summer for the 24s as those schools are trying to round out their recruiting classes so they can focus on their college teams for the spring. The 23s will still be recruited next summer, but at that point the top d1 teams have moved on and the lower level d1, d2 and d3 schools will be watching. Anyone who tells you otherwise about the presidents cup is probably a club director looking to pad their pockets by charging you some high numbers to go.
The previous post that said use it for film etc, is exactly right as there will be good competition there, however temper your expectations a bit if you think you'll see college coaches on your sideline for games. Could they be there... sure...Is it likely... no
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The only 24a getting looked at at presidents cup would be the teams in the top A bracket there, the majority of 24s will not see any college coaches. This is generally the last big tourney that the 23s get a lot of exposure from the d1 schools before focusing on the summer for the 24s as those schools are trying to round out their recruiting classes so they can focus on their college teams for the spring. The 23s will still be recruited next summer, but at that point the top d1 teams have moved on and the lower level d1, d2 and d3 schools will be watching. Anyone who tells you otherwise about the presidents cup is probably a club director looking to pad their pockets by charging you some high numbers to go.
The previous post that said use it for film etc, is exactly right as there will be good competition there, however temper your expectations a bit if you think you'll see college coaches on your sideline for games. Could they be there... sure...Is it likely... no

Perfectly stated!
Just went to Presidents Cup (Dallas) Website. 2024 Divisions. Yellow Jackets Gold/Blue/White teams listed?? Where is Weiner/Ramos/Kildare (O’Sullivan)? What’s going on here?

https://iwlca.teamsportsinfo.com/iw...ow_divs_menu=true&show_brackets=true
Yellow jackets fall tourneys are a la carte, once registered they put the girls on teams they deem fit depending on who signs up.
Wow
Do you think you could call a director and pay them a big number to guarantee your kid a starting spot and full recruiting support? Maybe half now and half when your kids gets a verbal from a list of schools. I’m sure a select few would pay up for that. 20k now and another 20k once offered.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do you think you could call a director and pay them a big number to guarantee your kid a starting spot and full recruiting support? Maybe half now and half when your kids gets a verbal from a list of schools. I’m sure a select few would pay up for that. 20k now and another 20k once offered.

They could pay whatever they want…. At the end of the day the college coaches at the best programs know what they are looking for, they do not recruit “clubs” they recruit players. There are not too many top tier players that fall through the cracks, they generally end up at a Top 10-15 program.
You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.
I am sorry to all. Unfortunately, the girls club had an awful experience with her. And friends from other team had a similar experience. I'm sure she is a sweet person, but ...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am sorry to all. Unfortunately, the girls club had an awful experience with her. And friends from other team had a similar experience. I'm sure she is a sweet person, but ...

??? What is this in reference to???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the Fall prospect camps, for a 2024/HS Sophmore player, does anyone who has already been through the process with other kids, feel the Fall camps are worth doing?


The camps are very worth it
Crazy how it’s even a conversation if fall play is important. YES! E
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crazy how it’s even a conversation if fall play is important. YES! E


Agreed. It’s surprising anyone is questioning if they need to be in strong fall tournaments. Assuming it’s the clubs who can’t get into events like presidents cup this fall that are saying it’s ok.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the Fall prospect camps, for a 2024/HS Sophmore player, does anyone who has already been through the process with other kids, feel the Fall camps are worth doing?


The camps are very worth it

Maybe if you play for a weak team, otherwise a waste of time and money
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Regarding the Fall prospect camps, for a 2024/HS Sophmore player, does anyone who has already been through the process with other kids, feel the Fall camps are worth doing?


The camps are very worth it

Maybe if you play for a weak team, otherwise a waste of time and money

Weak teams can’t get into good fall recruiting events. They end up at things like NXT and Fall Classic
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?
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Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.

You seem pretty realistic about your player. It's hard to accept that the team you're on may not be all you thought it was. It is a little late in the game to switch, and if she does happen to be an A player I think most A level teams are filled. Yellow Jackets, Liberty, Jesters, and Legacy A are likely filled. Top guns has been struggling the past two years, and elevate 24s are falling apart so you may be able to find something there but it wont be any better than where you're at. I would try reaching out to the clubs mentioned as probably being filled. If she is an A level player and they give her a shot to try out they won't turn down a true A kid. Good luck to you and sorry you fell victim to the 91 girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.


I thought I heard they had some decent kids. Do you mind saying what makes the team not what you thought? If your daughter is on a bad team now what makes you think she will be on a A team elsewhere? Does that make sense to move a kid now? Will they get playing time or just be a bench warmer? When is it too late to actually move travel clubs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.


I thought I heard they had some decent kids. Do you mind saying what makes the team not what you thought? If your daughter is on a bad team now what makes you think she will be on a A team elsewhere? Does that make sense to move a kid now? Will they get playing time or just be a bench warmer? When is it too late to actually move travel clubs

Not too late to move as the actual season hasn’t started. Only problem is now, is finding a team with a spot available. Can’t hurt to ask for a private tryout evaluation with some teams if a spot is available? If you are truly unhappy where you are, don’t waste time there if you can find another option. Start calling around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I’ve seen for Legacy holding additional tryouts. Not sure fir what age groups? Can’t hurt to reach out to teams and see if any spots open? Legacy, Liberty, Jesters ? Run from 91 if you can? Start calling around.

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.


I thought I heard they had some decent kids. Do you mind saying what makes the team not what you thought? If your daughter is on a bad team now what makes you think she will be on a A team elsewhere? Does that make sense to move a kid now? Will they get playing time or just be a bench warmer? When is it too late to actually move travel clubs

There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Made a very poor decision staying with 91 after the merger. Is it possible to move teams at this point?

I suppose. I don’t want them to find out we’re considering leaving and to have it backfire if we can’t find an alternate place. We thought the prospect of an “A” team was going to be good for us but now realize the level of this team is not any different than we have experienced and in reality is weaker than most b teams.

If your daughter was an A team player, she wouldn’t be on 91 in the first place. Organization has always been non competitive for the girls. Not breaking news!

I hear that. Maybe my expectations for her level of play aren’t where I thought they were ? She’s one of the strongest in this group though and I’m not sure if I should give her the chance to play on an A or b team elsewhere. Most Long Island b teams would probably still beat this current A team which is scary to me.


I thought I heard they had some decent kids. Do you mind saying what makes the team not what you thought? If your daughter is on a bad team now what makes you think she will be on a A team elsewhere? Does that make sense to move a kid now? Will they get playing time or just be a bench warmer? When is it too late to actually move travel clubs

Not too late to move as the actual season hasn’t started. Only problem is now, is finding a team with a spot available. Can’t hurt to ask for a private tryout evaluation with some teams if a spot is available? If you are truly unhappy where you are, don’t waste time there if you can find another option. Start calling around.

I don’t like bad mouthing other clubs so hopefully this does not come off too negative but 91 has a notoriously good boys side, but does not produce strong athletes on the girls side. It isn’t a bad thing for kids who aren’t looking to play d1 and top level d1. It is a good fit for some. For example, there are plenty of kids that play for 91 just because they want to play and not because their a top athlete. There are other clubs like YJ that take the top level kids mostly and the way it’s run reflects that.

If your kid is looking to play for fun, and they are enjoying 91, they can stay and just enjoy the ride. If they are looking for a more competitive setting with a stronger prospect of playing in college then sadly 91 is not the place to go. I’m sure it’s not for lack of effort on their part, but they just don’t attract top players on the girls side and haven’t for a long time.
You mean haven't ever.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You mean haven't ever.

They've had a handful of strong players come out of the program but not very many.
How do you have any idea that this A team is not good if they haven’t actually played yet?
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

Coaches replying on here like this is exactly why many of us don’t feel comfortable posting on here. Why are club coaches even on here? Now that this parent knows that their coach is paroozing the interweb I’m sure that them looking for outside advice will end now.
Yes god bid a coach defend himself or herself from anonymous animals posting trash , get a spine and confront your coach if you have any spine at all. I doubt you will because your obviously a disgruntled coward. Btw not a coach here
Who actually believes that the coaches AREN'T on here? Or won’t hear about what people say from others who are on here. I mean, seriously? The bigger question is why a parent wouldn’t first go to the source to inquire about all of these questions?
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I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”


coaches on here openly naming themselves and adding to the drama. How old are you..?
If your not happy on the team. Leave. I think it is wrong that a parent would include the team name and not be more generic. It sounds like a direct attack on 91. If your child is a good player she will find another team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

Coaches replying on here like this is exactly why many of us don’t feel comfortable posting on here. Why are club coaches even on here? Now that this parent knows that their coach is paroozing the interweb I’m sure that them looking for outside advice will end now.


Actually I think it’s about time. All the coaches know about this site and maybe adults will start acting like adults now that’s it’s out. Also maybe it will make adults reconsider badmouthing children’s clubs. If the adult was so unhappy why not go speak to the coaches? Why hide behind an anonymous post bashing the club and the other children on the team Or you can just leave quietly like an adult!
Is Mike Hall a 91 coach? He’s not listed on the 91 website as a 24 coach. If he is bold move approaching a parent on your team the way you just did. If they came to botc to ask for advice it seems like they didn’t feel comfortable talking to coaches in the first place.
The coach should grow up? Maybe the parents who are bad mouthing his team anonymously should grow up. Speak to them face to face or leave dont put down what these coaches have done for these girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”


coaches on here openly naming themselves and adding to the drama. How old are you..?

Actually seems like he was trying to diffuse the drama and ask the parent causing the drama to go directly to him. The person who went on here bashing the other girls on the team and their playing abilities seems to be the one who needs to grow up!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Mike Hall a 91 coach? He’s not listed on the 91 website as a 24 coach. If he is bold move approaching a parent on your team the way you just did. If they came to botc to ask for advice it seems like they didn’t feel comfortable talking to coaches in the first place.


Asking advice is not the same as bashing the other girls skills after saying his daughter was one of the best on the team. You can ask advise without putting young girls down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.


Talk about a clown why don’t you put your name behind your pathetic post! Time to get over putting down girls playing lacrosse because you do realize that’s what your doing is putting down 15 year old girls. At least he had the guts to say his name
If you knew anything about this “coach” you would have your mouth completely shut right now! All he did was asking for them to go to him and what they are staying isn’t true. Every parent who’s acting like their back in middle school having to bash a team anonymously is pathetic! If you have a problem go to the coach or leave no one’s begging you to stay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.

Wonder if 91 knows they have their coaches are their coaches buddies on here acting like 16 year olds. The replies to this parent show that what they are complaining about is spot on. So much negativity surrounding those coaches. There is no chance this parent calls you when you are part of the problem.

Someone call Brian and let him know he needs to real in this coach. college coaches can get screenshots of him and his wife on here and completely write the whole 24 year off. Then again what do you expect when you bring in the bandits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.

Wonder if 91 knows they have their coaches are their coaches buddies on here acting like 16 year olds. The replies to this parent show that what they are complaining about is spot on. So much negativity surrounding those coaches. There is no chance this parent calls you when you are part of the problem.

Someone call Brian and let him know he needs to real in this coach. college coaches can get screenshots of him and his wife on here and completely write the whole 24 year off. Then again what do you expect when you bring in the bandits?



Talk about acting like a 16 year old. How about your comment
“ then again what do you expect brining the bandits “Real Mature! Time to grow up. I think it’s about time with all the bashing. Also Sounds like you need to come into reality. College coaches are definitely going to write the whole 24 year it’s actually funny that people can be so sad and ignorant!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.


Talk about a clown why don’t you put your name behind your pathetic post! Time to get over putting down girls playing lacrosse because you do realize that’s what your doing is putting down 15 year old girls. At least he had the guts to say his name

The same person spam defending him is humorous. Why don’t you have the guts to say your name?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you knew anything about this “coach” you would have your mouth completely shut right now! All he did was asking for them to go to him and what they are staying isn’t true. Every parent who’s acting like their back in middle school having to bash a team anonymously is pathetic! If you have a problem go to the coach or leave no one’s begging you to stay.


Exactly!
if your kid is what you say, an "A" player then I'm sure any club would take her, but I highly doubt she is. Your first mistake was coming on this juvenile forum for advice, the majority of the people posting on this site are disgruntled and have ulterior motives, like bashing players who play over their kid or bad mouthing coaches due to playing time. This is a complaint site for most, and barely does any good or informative for anyone. My kid plays for YJ and its not perfect,but this bashing of kids and coaches is just absurd. I would suggest you take the coaches offer and speak to them directly before you ruin the team for everyone involved.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”

The fact that this clown of a "coach" would even reply on BOTC is proof enough of what the poster was saying. Ego.

91 girls is a joke pal - a cruel joke that gets played on unsuspecting parents every year. Then they get wise and leave. The 91 Marketing Machine brings more to the slaughter and the cycle repeats.

Wonder if 91 knows they have their coaches are their coaches buddies on here acting like 16 year olds. The replies to this parent show that what they are complaining about is spot on. So much negativity surrounding those coaches. There is no chance this parent calls you when you are part of the problem.

Someone call Brian and let him know he needs to real in this coach. college coaches can get screenshots of him and his wife on here and completely write the whole 24 year off. Then again what do you expect when you bring in the bandits?
.



Again another pathetic adult acting like a child. Why do you feel the need to say how wrong he was for defending himself and his girls? But you then have to end your post talking badly about the bandits? So mature! You clearly know nothing about him or the team. Also you should come into reality thinking college coaches are on BOC and will hold it against kids because of a coach putting one post up defending himself and his team just shows your delusional. Stop worrying about a team your kid is obviously not on and time to get a life buddy!
I want to come on here again to explain myself a little further since it seems that our coach and the parent I mentioned in my original post have starting mass posting insults. I never said my daughter was the best on the team, I stated she is one of the stronger players. I did not name any coaches and the reason I went to this website before making a decision was to see if there were other options. I did not say anything bad about the other girls, just that it was not the A level team we were promised when we got personal calls from the program and coaches to convince us to stay on this year. The majority of the girls are great, there are 2-3 girls and accompanying parents who are truly a dark cloud. Those 2-3 are probably being entitled by the fact that they are family friends with the coaches and now are on this website trying to attack me for asking for advice. Just because I am not happy with our families decision to stay on this year doesn't make our family the enemy. As many said following my post 91 isn't the greatest program, and we knew that.

We stayed for my daughters friends and because we felt it was too late to make a switch. When we were promised that we would be playing top 10 teams in the country with this new roster and told we were part of something new and great for the program we made the decision to stay, and that is on us. I now realize that it may have been foolish to think this team could compete with YJ A teams, M&D, NEMS, Skywalkers,etc. It was probably foolish on our part.

Sorry if anyone felt insulted by my original post, but at the end of the day my priority is my kid.

Due to the response of coach and his pal there is zero trust or comfort in him. If I can't find an alternate team for my daughter, I won't ruin her experience further by giving them gasoline for the fire with my daughters name.
There's NOTHING wrong with what he did he didn't say any rude comments like every other parent is on here if they have the right to call him a clown and bash his team he can say call me if you have an issue. Which how is this "addressing the problem" saying false things no less not even saying your name!!
All these sideline daddy coaches should shut their mouth. He played at the collage level and is a varsity assistant coach don't think that says he is some clown.
so are you going to man up and speak to the coaches ? or just continue being a coward.
I heard the same thing , I heard they had some pretty legit kids , obviously it’s word of mouth so you have to wait and see . This parent sounds like maybe his kid doesn’t fit with this team , or possibly is not good enough to compete with this team . I guess rather than bow out gracefully he decided to make weak excuses and bash kids and coaches. Unfortunately everyone will figure who the parent is and the kid will be embarrassed and end leaving anyway . Well done daddy
Ok Mike Hall simmer down. Don't even know you but you posting on here with your name, and now anonymously is a riot. Your ego is showing. To the mom or dad who came on looking for advice, don't let these men bully you into silence. Keep using the forum to ask for advice. You didn't bash anyone. The only people who look ridiculous here are Hall and his single fan club member.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard the same thing , I heard they had some pretty legit kids , obviously it’s word of mouth so you have to wait and see . This parent sounds like maybe his kid doesn’t fit with this team , or possibly is not good enough to compete with this team . I guess rather than bow out gracefully he decided to make weak excuses and bash kids and coaches. Unfortunately everyone will figure who the parent is and the kid will be embarrassed and end leaving anyway . Well done daddy

you guys have reading comprehension issues... the poster-in-question never said anything bad about the team or players. All they did was reference it wasnt a good fit, with some bad seeds on the team, and that they felt they were sold a bill of goods with regard to level of play. An anonymous forum seems to be the best place to ask about a situation like this. And unfortunately, i think a lot of people are in the same boat even at other programs (with at least one of those 3 issues, if not a combination of them). My advice is that its never too late to find a better fit for you kid... although that does become more difficult as time goes on.

Based on the response from the alleged coach and his cronies, it sounds like a direct conversation will not go far... and based on the three issues you identified, they cannot be easily remedied in a single season even if the coach is receptive.
The coaches response was “call me”. I think that’s a great response. In other words, let’s talk about your concerns. I don’t think you could ask for anything more than that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The coaches response was “call me”. I think that’s a great response. In other words, let’s talk about your concerns. I don’t think you could ask for anything more than that.

No it wasn't. His response was disbelief. The coach could have just said "you have my contact info, reach out and let's discuss/address your concerns" and leave at that.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find the quote I included below to be especially interesting. If you are a parent from our team, call me (you have my number). If you aren’t a parent on our team and you are simply a person using an anonymous web forum to stir the pot, create false hostility, trying to negatively affect what is a good thing or have nothing better to do, you need to seriously take a long look at your life decisions.

-Mike Hall

I seriously doubt any of the following is true…

“ There are a few issues. The first being that the team culture not going so well. There is obvious egos of kids and parents that make it not enjoyable. If the team was the skill level it is but our daughter was enjoying it that be one thing, but it’s not. They feel like certain girls are favored and think that the actual instruction from coaches isn’t helping. For example, they tried to teach them zone and it was so poorly explained that the team left and was all texting each other that they’ve never felt so lost at a practice because the way it was taught was not clear and went against things taught by their school coaches. There’s also rumors flying that the coaches are telling certain parents information about kids that shouldn’t be spoken about to other parents. I could gamble and stick it out or jump ship, but like you said when is it to late? Is my daughter good enough for another team and so on”
I would find the “bad seeds” or favorites very offensive if it was my kid. Looks like someone is trying to find excuses.
Then the OP should not have mentioned 2024 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard the same thing , I heard they had some pretty legit kids , obviously it’s word of mouth so you have to wait and see . This parent sounds like maybe his kid doesn’t fit with this team , or possibly is not good enough to compete with this team . I guess rather than bow out gracefully he decided to make weak excuses and bash kids and coaches. Unfortunately everyone will figure who the parent is and the kid will be embarrassed and end leaving anyway . Well done daddy

you guys have reading comprehension issues... the poster-in-question never said anything bad about the team or players. All they did was reference it wasnt a good fit, with some bad seeds on the team, and that they felt they were sold a bill of goods with regard to level of play. An anonymous forum seems to be the best place to ask about a situation like this. And unfortunately, i think a lot of people are in the same boat even at other programs (with at least one of those 3 issues, if not a combination of them). My advice is that its never too late to find a better fit for you kid... although that does become more difficult as time goes on.

Based on the response from the alleged coach and his cronies, it sounds like a direct conversation will not go far... and based on the three issues you identified, they cannot be easily remedied in a single season even if the coach is receptive.

I appreciate you understanding where we are coming from. It wasn’t meant to make my child sound like the best or to insult anyone. I simply wanted advice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would find the “bad seeds” or favorites very offensive if it was my kid. Looks like someone is trying to find excuses.

If they had really wanted to attack a specific kid they would have been more specific. I’ve spoken to people on this team who all mention one child in particular who rubs everyone the wrong way.
Oh now it’s one particular kid who rubs everyone the wrong way ?? You just keep moving the goalposts, you can’t keep your story straight anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh now it’s one particular kid who rubs everyone the wrong way ?? You just keep moving the goalposts, you can’t keep your story straight anymore.

I didn’t say it was one kid a different poster did…
Outsider (non 24) looking in... I commend the coach for putting his name to the post, I think the parent was only looking for advise and not meaning to bash anyone in particular....
The rest of y'all are bananas.
That is all, Ha
No one spoke to me and I have never seen anything that this person is explaining.
So I have a few questions, the team is already not getting along ? How many practices have they had together? Seems early that kids aren’t getting along already . And parents are already labeling kids as bad seeds and rubbing kids the wrong way ? This is really odd , considering the amount of practice they have had , which I’m assuming aren’t many. Could it be some kids are better than others ? And that doesn’t sit well with mommy and daddy? It sounds like some parents can’t handle the competition. If you can’t handle the competition on a 91 team , then you won’t be stand a chance on higher level club
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one spoke to me and I have never seen anything that this person is explaining.
how can anyone speak to you your anonymous!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one spoke to me and I have never seen anything that this person is explaining.

Huh?
This thread is exhausting. Someone please start a new topic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So I have a few questions, the team is already not getting along ? How many practices have they had together? Seems early that kids aren’t getting along already . And parents are already labeling kids as bad seeds and rubbing kids the wrong way ? This is really odd , considering the amount of practice they have had , which I’m assuming aren’t many. Could it be some kids are better than others ? And that doesn’t sit well with mommy and daddy? It sounds like some parents can’t handle the competition. If you can’t handle the competition on a 91 team , then you won’t be stand a chance on higher level club

If you can’t hang at 91 you might as well just quit. Can’t get much lower tier on long island
Why is Hall even reading this thread..?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Hall even reading this thread..?

Why not? If someone bashing people and/or A club… they have every right to respond. Plus, I think they should. It’s their business.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Hall even reading this thread..?

Why not? If someone bashing people and/or A club… they have every right to respond. Plus, I think they should. It’s their business.

It’s obvious you know him. Lax on ladies replied on here once and you crucified them
I distinctly remember a bandits player moving to our club and her parents on the sidelines telling us how horrific her experiences were with the bandits coaches. The coaches mentioned before are the same are they not?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Hall even reading this thread..?

Why not? If someone bashing people and/or A club… they have every right to respond. Plus, I think they should. It’s their business.

It’s obvious you know him. Lax on ladies replied on here once and you crucified them

No, do not know him or the Lax On ladies. Crucified?? I do believe if someone or their club is being bashed on here and they are made aware, I think they should defend themselves. It’s their reputation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is Hall even reading this thread..?

Why not? If someone bashing people and/or A club… they have every right to respond. Plus, I think they should. It’s their business.

It’s obvious you know him. Lax on ladies replied on here once and you crucified them

No, do not know him or the Lax On ladies. Crucified?? I do believe if someone or their club is being bashed on here and they are made aware, I think they should defend themselves. It’s their reputation.

I think coming on to defend yourself makes you look more guilty
To late for that , you already started a dumpster fire
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To late for that , you already started a dumpster fire

I agree that coach did with how he chose to reply.
So a parent ANONYMOUSLY
* questions the culture of a coach's team
* says the coach confused kids with how poorly he explained a defense (and the parent probably has no clue about the defense)
* says that the coaches favor kids
* says there are kids that are "bad seeds"
* accuses coaches of talking to parents about other kids

And the Coach
* says call me
* says he's surprised to hear this and is in disbelief
AND RESPONDS WITH HIS NAME LIKE A GROWN UP

If you think the coach did anything wrong you are part of the problem.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To late for that , you already started a dumpster fire

I agree that coach did with how he chose to reply.

It proves the coach is an stunad and further proves the original poster's concerns. Plus the fan-boy makes it even more true.
So what’s everyone’s thoughts on the best college recruiting sites? ConnectLax, SportsRecruits, CaptU or other? Thank you in advance
So a parent ANONYMOUSLY
* asks for advice from other parents
* is concerned for their child
* is concerned for the culture of a team
* states that many different kids were confused
* later says they feel uncomofrtrable with these coaches

And the Coach
* says call me with an attitude
* says he's surprised to hear this and is in disbelief not because it isn't true, but because his ego is too big to accept he may not be a lax god
* responds with his team because there is truth to these rumors.

The coaches are the problem, not the parent, not the kids. You have two coaches on that team with inflated egos who are looking to get their kid further in the lacrosse world regardless of who they need to step on to get there. The female coach was a nightmare on Yellow Jackets, and from what the parent posted it seems like she has taken this man downhill with her. If he works alongside her I believe that there is validity in this statement.
only stunad is the fella repeatedly using the word stunad... over and over and.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
only stunad is the fella repeatedly using the word stunad... over and over and.....

There are no other posts that are using the word stunad? Pretty sure multiple people are capable of using the same term.
Can CH get off of here already you're beyond obvious
Connectlax seems to be pretty user friendly
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what’s everyone’s thoughts on the best college recruiting sites? ConnectLax, SportsRecruits, CaptU or other? Thank you in advance

SportsRecruits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what’s everyone’s thoughts on the best college recruiting sites? ConnectLax, SportsRecruits, CaptU or other? Thank you in advance

SportsRecruits

Connectlax and sports recruits both good. We had an issue with sports recruits with our account after our club activated an account. Stuff got messed up. They were great to deal with and fixed it fast. One thing I did read at one point is to email directly with coaches, not via the websites. Not sure how true that is though.
Does anyone know how to use the zoom in feature on connectlax ? I keep trying to use it, but I don’t see it zoom once I preview the clip. Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how to use the zoom in feature on connectlax ? I keep trying to use it, but I don’t see it zoom once I preview the clip. Thanks

What do you mean? Zoom in on what?
When your cutting the clips for a highlight video, you can circle the player and there is zoom feature , I’m assuming to zoom in on the play. I’m not sure I’m using it correctly
Once you pick all your clips. The system will make you review. Each clip with then give you the option for “isolation”. That’s the circle. It also will allow you to zoom in on an area of the screen as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can CH get off of here already you're beyond obvious

Yep
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So I have a few questions, the team is already not getting along ? How many practices have they had together? Seems early that kids aren’t getting along already . And parents are already labeling kids as bad seeds and rubbing kids the wrong way ? This is really odd , considering the amount of practice they have had , which I’m assuming aren’t many. Could it be some kids are better than others ? And that doesn’t sit well with mommy and daddy? It sounds like some parents can’t handle the competition. If you can’t handle the competition on a 91 team , then you won’t be stand a chance on higher level club

If you can’t hang at 91 you might as well just quit. Can’t get much lower tier on long island

True. Can’t get much lower anymore now that blue devils and bandits are gone. Maybe recon and shore to shore are lower but that’s about it except for newer clubs like Ohana that just started
Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once you pick all your clips. The system will make you review. Each clip with then give you the option for “isolation”. That’s the circle. It also will allow you to zoom in on an area of the screen as well.

Not sure. I actually made a video on my own first time around using iMovie.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing

Guess hall realized his errors and tried to hide them away
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once you pick all your clips. The system will make you review. Each clip with then give you the option for “isolation”. That’s the circle. It also will allow you to zoom in on an area of the screen as well.

Thank you!!!! Finally Some real helpful advice on BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing

Guess hall realized his errors and tried to hide them away

I don’t understand why 91 even merged. Was it just for numbers since a lot of their teams folded?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am sorry to all. Unfortunately, the girls club had an awful experience with her. And friends from other team had a similar experience. I'm sure she is a sweet person, but ...

??? What is this in reference to???

TILTS?!?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am sorry to all. Unfortunately, the girls club had an awful experience with her. And friends from other team had a similar experience. I'm sure she is a sweet person, but ...

??? What is this in reference to???

TILTS?!?

The fact that Hall and his minions feel the need to try and change the subject twice now is pathetic. That post wasn't even about Tilts, but props to you for trying to find ANY last straw to grasp at the get the attention off you.
Thanks appreciate the help
Hall and 91 really looking for anything to get attention off themselves
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Hall and 91 really looking for anything to get attention off themselves

Just ignore those clowns
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Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing

Guess hall realized his errors and tried to hide them away

I don’t understand why 91 even merged. Was it just for numbers since a lot of their teams folded?

They did the same thing with the ‘23s a few years ago. A couple of the better girls went on YJ A, the rest left to scratch
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Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing

Guess hall realized his errors and tried to hide them away

I don’t understand why 91 even merged. Was it just for numbers since a lot of their teams folded?

They did the same thing with the ‘23s a few years ago. A couple of the better girls went on YJ A, the rest left to scratch

They didnt have a 2023, 2025, 2026, or 2027 team so they merged with bandits to keep themselves above water. They only had 22s, 24s, and 2029/3020 I believe. Most of the teams dissolved and went to yellow jackets.
Looking at the 2023 forum to get an idea of where the 2023s stand for each club as well as the committment center of BOTC. I see that top guns, jesters, and yellowjackets all have top d1 commits. Why don't other clubs have even a single commit? I don't see a single committment from 91, recon, flg, or YJ bcd. Are there 23 teams from those clubs? Why is it that they don't have any commits? What about legacy?
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Hahaha funny how as soon as people are called out there is spam sent back back about the same thing

Guess hall realized his errors and tried to hide them away

I don’t understand why 91 even merged. Was it just for numbers since a lot of their teams folded?

They did the same thing with the ‘23s a few years ago. A couple of the better girls went on YJ A, the rest left to scratch

They didnt have a 2023, 2025, 2026, or 2027 team so they merged with bandits to keep themselves above water. They only had 22s, 24s, and 2029/3020 I believe. Most of the teams dissolved and went to yellow jackets.

Why bandits though? couldn't they have merged with like YJ?
2023 YJ B has 5 commits already. It’s always a solid option for kids outside the top 2-3 A teams
2024 Has 2 super solid YJ A & B teams.
100% agree at least from midewst standpoint. The Midwest UA command team is an absolute joke. Practically the entire team was from the 3 coaches clubs. 3 coaches from MN, IL, MI. Guess what the team looked like 7 kids from MN, 7 from Il, 7 from MI. The kids from MN & MI with exception of one or two would not start for half of the top 10 club teams in the Midwest. Complete nonsense and waste of time! They need to figure a way to get the best kids on these teams. My kid did not deserve to make the team but I know quite a few who should have. I watched many of the tryout games. There were clearly many kids "missed" by the evaluators and plenty of obvious politically motivated kids that made the team.
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2023 YJ B has 5 commits already. It’s always a solid option for kids outside the top 2-3 A teams
2024 Has 2 super solid YJ A & B teams.

Is Kildare rhe d team now or is it still o Sullivan
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2023 YJ B has 5 commits already. It’s always a solid option for kids outside the top 2-3 A teams
2024 Has 2 super solid YJ A & B teams.

Is Kildare rhe d team now or is it still o Sullivan

Who knows? Prob. A toss up for B team between Ramos and Kildare. I guess we will see this summer who comes out on top.
Weiner - A Ramos B - Kildare - C O’Sullivan - D

No toss up - Ramos is clearly 2nd team and has proved that over the last 2 years. Kildare has some solid players, but is not as strong overall.
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Looking at the 2023 forum to get an idea of where the 2023s stand for each club as well as the committment center of BOTC. I see that top guns, jesters, and yellowjackets all have top d1 commits. Why don't other clubs have even a single commit? I don't see a single committment from 91, recon, flg, or YJ bcd. Are there 23 teams from those clubs? Why is it that they don't have any commits? What about legacy?

Def misspoken for 2023 but you’ll never see an early commitment from FLG or Recon. YJ B has a goalie to Stanford,as well as a stony Brook and LIU, could be more as welll. Legacy has Navy and Florida, and prob more. Empire has Rutgers and Monmouth and maybe more. Your comment is a notIntelligent misinformed comment and feels like you’re trying to troll. YJA has a number of top commits, TG has a number of top commits and jesters have a number of commits, but all 3 are top 10 teams in country so they should. Looks like TG has to the best schools but that doesn’t mean much and won’t until 5 years from now.
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To late for that , you already started a dumpster fire

I agree that coach did with how he chose to reply.

It proves the coach is an stunad and further proves the original poster's concerns. Plus the fan-boy makes it even more true.

Coach belongs in a looneybin. There’s a reason they hired someone new to be head MP coach instead of promoting him to head coach
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100% agree at least from midewst standpoint. The Midwest UA command team is an absolute joke. Practically the entire team was from the 3 coaches clubs. 3 coaches from MN, IL, MI. Guess what the team looked like 7 kids from MN, 7 from Il, 7 from MI. The kids from MN & MI with exception of one or two would not start for half of the top 10 club teams in the Midwest. Complete nonsense and waste of time! They need to figure a way to get the best kids on these teams. My kid did not deserve to make the team but I know quite a few who should have. I watched many of the tryout games. There were clearly many kids "missed" by the evaluators and plenty of obvious politically motivated kids that made the team.


If you look at Midwest, West or most of the non traditional marketing, American Select rosters were much strong than the UA rosters.

Politics, maybe? But also the two best clubs in the Midwest (Team 1 and MN Elite) had their coaches coaching the teams. In California, it was most STEPs girls, Coloardo was mostly Team180 girls. Connecticut was worst of all where the rosters was 90% CT grizzlies. All player for their clubs coaches.

Once these girls made the American select roster, most players didn't even tryout for UA.
YJ Weiner still holding the reigning title of best 24 team on Long Island after playing Columbus Day tourney. Nice to see the girls out there again.
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YJ Weiner still holding the reigning title of best 24 team on Long Island after playing Columbus Day tourney. Nice to see the girls out there again.

Ok bud get off your high horse
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YJ Weiner still holding the reigning title of best 24 team on Long Island after playing Columbus Day tourney. Nice to see the girls out there again.

Ok bud get off your high horse

Who else played today?
Who cares it’s 7v7 fall lacrosse
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Who cares it’s 7v7 fall lacrosse

Exactly, probably a waste of time for the older teams.
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Who cares it’s 7v7 fall lacrosse

It's a good judge of the talent of teams since rosters have changed
Not really fields are small. If you played on the grass it was terrible. Small small fields!
YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!
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Not really fields are small. If you played on the grass it was terrible. Small small fields!

I don’t think you can judge the teams by the 7v7 stuff. Teams were split up, girls were missing from some, and just overall hard to judge a team by 7v7 play. Let’s see when Fall tourneys happen how all the LI teams do against MD , CT, NJ !? Let’s hope 2024 LI teams can keep the LAX reputation going for LI!? Getting more competitive year by year! Let’s route for all the LI teams!
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Not really fields are small. If you played on the grass it was terrible. Small small fields!

The older teams only played on the turf I believe.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

No matter where you stood for fields 1,2 and 3 you could see all the games clearly and there was some really strong talent from the 24s between Weiner, Kildare, and Jesters black. It was a good day of lacrosse and a chance for all the high school aged kids to get out there and get some time in together before fall tournaments.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

No matter where you stood for fields 1,2 and 3 you could see all the games clearly and there was some really strong talent from the 24s between Weiner, Kildare, and Jesters black. It was a good day of lacrosse and a chance for all the high school aged kids to get out there and get some time in together before fall tournaments.

Love the positivity here. Truly some great talent on some of those 24s teams and was enjoyable to watch.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Yes we would? Normal parents can judge another team in a positive light.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Yes we would? Normal parents can judge another team in a positive light.

Agree, not just about the LI teams! Hopefully we are routing for all the LI girls overall as eventually it comes down to that. Need to beat, MD, DE, CT , NJ and keep LI the #1 place where top Lax talent comes from! That helps all the girls on LI. So small minded to think you can’t compliment other girls/teams from LI! Let’s try to route for and Hope all the 24 LI players get to where they want to be and hopefully the strength of LI Lacrosse helps them! The competition between the teams, just makes them better.
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Originally Posted by SAT1234
100% agree at least from midewst standpoint. The Midwest UA command team is an absolute joke. Practically the entire team was from the 3 coaches clubs. 3 coaches from MN, IL, MI. Guess what the team looked like 7 kids from MN, 7 from Il, 7 from MI. The kids from MN & MI with exception of one or two would not start for half of the top 10 club teams in the Midwest. Complete nonsense and waste of time! They need to figure a way to get the best kids on these teams. My kid did not deserve to make the team but I know quite a few who should have. I watched many of the tryout games. There were clearly many kids "missed" by the evaluators and plenty of obvious politically motivated kids that made the team.


If you look at Midwest, West or most of the non traditional marketing, American Select rosters were much strong than the UA rosters.

Politics, maybe? But also the two best clubs in the Midwest (Team 1 and MN Elite) had their coaches coaching the teams. In California, it was most STEPs girls, Coloardo was mostly Team180 girls. Connecticut was worst of all where the rosters was 90% CT grizzlies. All player for their clubs coaches.

Once these girls made the American select roster, most players didn't even tryout for UA.

American Select roster for North Carolina was a joke. It was obvious which club was running the tryouts. Definitely not the top players.
How is the legacy team at this age?
A bit of a change of topic here

Our High school and club coach is advising our daughter to take her SATs a bit early (this summer instead of fall). She said it makes you more recruitable early in the cycle, especially at more academicminded schools.

Is anyone else's daughter doing the same?
I would think it would help your daughter if she plans on signing early in the recruiting process
North Carolina Tar Heels head coach has a daughter in the 2024 class. She was at American select.
Yea do that if you think she’ll score 1200+
Helps admins approve daughter fir schools coach.
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North Carolina Tar Heels head coach has a daughter in the 2024 class. She was at American select.

True, I saw the UNC head coach watching the games at American Selects.
Yes you should take early to see where you stand in the SATs, not lacrosse.
A coach will take a chance on you if you are academically flawless because your high scores fullfill the academic index, they now have more room to take less academically advantagednplayers.
So if you have a high SaT score the summer before junior year, coaches will recruit you quicker (if recruitable) vs waiting for January scores to come out
sAT was not an issue this year. The college coaches look at GPA and gamble. My daughter commited in the first 2 weeks to a big school and was never asked about SAT
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sAT was not an issue this year. The college coaches look at GPA and gamble. My daughter commited in the first 2 weeks to a big school and was never asked about SAT
I agree. Plus, who knows if they are even going to require SAT. Many 2022's and 23's have not had to submit.
All the Ivies say they don’t but a player has been recruited first because of her AI standing. ND says/not says it as well. Read thru the lines
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Yes you should take early to see where you stand in the SATs, not lacrosse.
A coach will take a chance on you if you are academically flawless because your high scores fullfill the academic index, they now have more room to take less academically advantagednplayers.
So if you have a high SaT score the summer before junior year, coaches will recruit you quicker (if recruitable) vs waiting for January scores to come out


Thanks so much. My daughter has good grades (3.8) but doesnt go to the best school (they only offer 2 AP classes). Her PSAT had her in 93rd percentile. Not sure if they care about PSAT scores.
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All the Ivies say they don’t but a player has been recruited first because of her AI standing. ND says/not says it as well. Read thru the lines


Interesting. ND told one of our 23s that they want to offer her but will need to see her 7th semester grades. Admittedly our school went pass fair during covid for second semester so she only has 3 semesters of letter grades.
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All the Ivies say they don’t but a player has been recruited first because of her AI standing. ND says/not says it as well. Read thru the lines

What are you taking about?
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North Carolina Tar Heels head coach has a daughter in the 2024 class. She was at American select.

True, I saw the UNC head coach watching the games at American Selects.

And she was playing for Team Maryland and her M&D Coach, not her home state.
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North Carolina Tar Heels head coach has a daughter in the 2024 class. She was at American select.

True, I saw the UNC head coach watching the games at American Selects.

And she was playing for Team Maryland and her M&D Coach, not her home state.

Great example of how entitlement works in lax. Rules are only for some people.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Who’s the top scorer?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???


Jesters 24 black picked up some top players from other teams and they added a new coach and hired Pirreca for trainings within the club. Was not there so can’t say for sure but Kildare lost a few top kids and jesters added a few. It probably leveled the playing field a bit.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Yes a 7 v 7 and both teams were probably missing a handful of strong players. There isn’t room for more than one club or team to be successful?
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

‘C’ team top scorer didn’t play?? Wow, thats a new one.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Relying on one person whose a top scorer means that the team is not well balanced. Dependency on one persons presence is not a good sign.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

‘C’ team top scorer didn’t play?? Wow, thats a new one.

Is Kildare the c team now? They like to tell people they’re b
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Relying on one person whose a top scorer means that the team is not well balanced. Dependency on one persons presence is not a good sign.

Also pretty sure said top scorer should have been pulled up by now. Way better than the rest of the kids on that team.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

‘C’ team top scorer didn’t play?? Wow, thats a new one.

Sad for LI lacrosse when a clubs c team is ranked higher than most clubs A team.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Relying on one person whose a top scorer means that the team is not well balanced. Dependency on one persons presence is not a good sign.

Well, it’s prob. The Coach’s daughter. She’s a big part of the teams success. It wasn’t just her missing. 7v7 is never good representation. She is big part of the team. Not the only team that has a girl who’s a difference maker!!! Many teams have those girls ! Like a Charlotte Nirth at BC!!! Even colleges have that!
Who cares who beat who. Can’t we just be grateful that kids are even playing anymore? the statement asking about what’s wrong with Kildare is rude towards that team not to mention unkind to jesters for your shock at them winning. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself. Kildare is doing just fine. Jesters outplayed us and that’s ok. No one wins 100% of the time, and there is no need to put down two groups of children because you want to stir the pot.
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YJ Wiener has a lot of strong girls who will probably go to a lot of top schools! Even though my daughters team got a beat down by them it was awesome seeing the talent in the 2024 age group. Excited to see where these young ladies go!!

Thanks Wiener mom! Nobody from another team would go out of their way to pump another team. Hopefully you’re daughter is as good as you think she is!

Weiner beat most of the teams they played, and a 23 parent they looked very good. The level of talent on that team seemed to be unparalleled with the other teams playing on the turf. Kildare lost to Jesters 24 black and jesters 23 black, but beat jesters 23 pink. Seems like jesters 24 pink played lower aged teams and shore to shore who they beat. I think Weiner, Kildare, Jesters 24 black, shore to shore, and Jesters 24 pink were the only 24 teams there.

I am shocked Jesters 24 Black beat Kildare. Is something going on with the Kildare team???

The 7v7 def not good representation. Kildare top scorer wasn’t even playing for them. Looked like she was playing on her town/HS team.

Relying on one person whose a top scorer means that the team is not well balanced. Dependency on one persons presence is not a good sign.

It's the sign of a ball hog who will soon get a reality check
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Who cares who beat who. Can’t we just be grateful that kids are even playing anymore? the statement asking about what’s wrong with Kildare is rude towards that team not to mention unkind to jesters for your shock at them winning. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself. Kildare is doing just fine. Jesters outplayed us and that’s ok. No one wins 100% of the time, and there is no need to put down two groups of children because you want to stir the pot.

Agree with this. Jesters has been growing over the past few years and they made some smart business moves grabbing those new coaches and trainers. Kildare had a good summer and although we lost a few good players we will remain a top 50 team. Based on what I saw during the 7 v 7 we are just as strong as last year but it is still early in the season. The teams we played were all class acts as were their coaching staffs and those who ran the tournament. As a parent on the sidelines it was a positive experience for all the kids and that should be our focus for our children, not if we lost a game.
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Who cares who beat who. Can’t we just be grateful that kids are even playing anymore? the statement asking about what’s wrong with Kildare is rude towards that team not to mention unkind to jesters for your shock at them winning. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself. Kildare is doing just fine. Jesters outplayed us and that’s ok. No one wins 100% of the time, and there is no need to put down two groups of children because you want to stir the pot.

Agree with this. Jesters has been growing over the past few years and they made some smart business moves grabbing those new coaches and trainers. Kildare had a good summer and although we lost a few good players we will remain a top 50 team. Based on what I saw during the 7 v 7 we are just as strong as last year but it is still early in the season. The teams we played were all class acts as were their coaching staffs and those who ran the tournament. As a parent on the sidelines it was a positive experience for all the kids and that should be our focus for our children, not if we lost a game.

Parents can learn from the girls at these things! I was watching all the girls mingling around the fields, chatting with girls they know from other teams, laughing, taking photos together and looking like they were just having a good time. It’s the parents who are the crazy ones.
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Who cares who beat who. Can’t we just be grateful that kids are even playing anymore? the statement asking about what’s wrong with Kildare is rude towards that team not to mention unkind to jesters for your shock at them winning. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself. Kildare is doing just fine. Jesters outplayed us and that’s ok. No one wins 100% of the time, and there is no need to put down two groups of children because you want to stir the pot.

Agree with this. Jesters has been growing over the past few years and they made some smart business moves grabbing those new coaches and trainers. Kildare had a good summer and although we lost a few good players we will remain a top 50 team. Based on what I saw during the 7 v 7 we are just as strong as last year but it is still early in the season. The teams we played were all class acts as were their coaching staffs and those who ran the tournament. As a parent on the sidelines it was a positive experience for all the kids and that should be our focus for our children, not if we lost a game.

Parents can learn from the girls at these things! I was watching all the girls mingling around the fields, chatting with girls they know from other teams, laughing, taking photos together and looking like they were just having a good time. It’s the parents who are the crazy ones.

So many girls on different teams who are friends and supporting one another. Parents are the ones who cause all these issues between teams and clubs. The girls are fine they don’t care.
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Who cares who beat who. Can’t we just be grateful that kids are even playing anymore? the statement asking about what’s wrong with Kildare is rude towards that team not to mention unkind to jesters for your shock at them winning. Keep your snarky remarks to yourself. Kildare is doing just fine. Jesters outplayed us and that’s ok. No one wins 100% of the time, and there is no need to put down two groups of children because you want to stir the pot.

Agree with this. Jesters has been growing over the past few years and they made some smart business moves grabbing those new coaches and trainers. Kildare had a good summer and although we lost a few good players we will remain a top 50 team. Based on what I saw during the 7 v 7 we are just as strong as last year but it is still early in the season. The teams we played were all class acts as were their coaching staffs and those who ran the tournament. As a parent on the sidelines it was a positive experience for all the kids and that should be our focus for our children, not if we lost a game.

Parents can learn from the girls at these things! I was watching all the girls mingling around the fields, chatting with girls they know from other teams, laughing, taking photos together and looking like they were just having a good time. It’s the parents who are the crazy ones.

So many girls on different teams who are friends and supporting one another. Parents are the ones who cause all these issues between teams and clubs. The girls are fine they don’t care.

Parent coaches generally cause the drama if you ask around.
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Where were you able to view the schedule?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Where were you able to view the schedule?

Tourney Machine app
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I’m looking and don’t see any big issues
Well, it’s prob. The Coach’s daughter. She’s a big part of the teams success. It wasn’t just her missing. 7v7 is never good representation. She is big part of the team. Not the only team that has a girl who’s a difference maker!!! Many teams have those girls ! Like a Charlotte Nirth at BC!!! Even colleges have that![/quote]

Lol, you didn’t just compare this girl to CN, did you? Lay off the booze. She is not that girl, not even close!
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I don’t have a word for it but they split the best teams into different brackets so they can win the bracket and all play in the championship? That’s if the tourney has a champ round. Is this what you were asking?
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I’m looking and don’t see any big issues

Really? One bracket, for example, has the #1, #4, #50 and #132 teams. And it's just one of many with that kind of discrepancy.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I don’t have a word for it but they split the best teams into different brackets so they can win the bracket and all play in the championship? That’s if the tourney has a champ round. Is this what you were asking?

It's a showcase tournament. 3 games and done.
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I’m looking and don’t see any big issues

Really? One bracket, for example, has the #1, #4, #50 and #132 teams. And it's just one of many with that kind of discrepancy.

You need to get a hobby bro.
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

It’s a showcase. This is probably a good thing for the lower ranked team, and also the bottom third of the higher ranked team’s roster
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I’m looking and don’t see any big issues

Really? One bracket, for example, has the #1, #4, #50 and #132 teams. And it's just one of many with that kind of discrepancy.

It’s one of the first fall tournaments calm down
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Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

It’s a showcase. This is probably a good thing for the lower ranked team, and also the bottom third of the higher ranked team’s roster

My daughter is on a lower ranked team...trust me it's no fun for anyone to play against a team that is much higher ranked. The bottom end of a highly ranked team is still much better than a much lower ranked team. It shouldn't be too difficult for tournament directors to match teams up that are at least somewhat similar in ability.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I don’t have a word for it but they split the best teams into different brackets so they can win the bracket and all play in the championship? That’s if the tourney has a champ round. Is this what you were asking?

It's a showcase tournament. 3 games and done.
Hey your getting exposure by playing the good teams. No complaints. My D played some of her best games against top teams and got noticed from doing so.
Good luck.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

I don’t have a word for it but they split the best teams into different brackets so they can win the bracket and all play in the championship? That’s if the tourney has a champ round. Is this what you were asking?

It's a showcase tournament. 3 games and done.
Hey your getting exposure by playing the good teams. No complaints. My D played some of her best games against top teams and got noticed from doing so.
Good luck.

It’s not fun or fair to put much lower ranked teams in to get beat on just to “showcase” the players on the higher ranked team. Wouldn’t the college coach’s prefer to see evenly matched games to get a real feel of the players abilities?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

which tourney? lax for the cure?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

which tourney? lax for the cure?

I believe the OP was referring to Prime Time.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

which tourney? lax for the cure?

Lax for the cure has some good brackets and then 2 weak ones with steps blue and yj weiner in them so Chuck and his buddy Carol can make the playoffs for sure. Playoffs matchups are slanted too until he has no choice.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

which tourney? lax for the cure?

Lax for the cure has some good brackets and then 2 weak ones with steps blue and yj weiner in them so Chuck and his buddy Carol can make the playoffs for sure. Playoffs matchups are slanted too until he has no choice.

Fall lax for the cure is one day showcase.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain to me why tournament directors pair top ranked team (top 20) with teams ranked over 100? How is this fun for anyone? Shouldn't there be some parity so the games are more challenging and fun for both teams? Primetime brackets just came out and I am left shaking my head.

Which teams are misplaced in their brackets ?

There are multiple brackets where this is the case.

which tourney? lax for the cure?

Lax for the cure has some good brackets and then 2 weak ones with steps blue and yj weiner in them so Chuck and his buddy Carol can make the playoffs for sure. Playoffs matchups are slanted too until he has no choice.

It's a showcase...no playoffs...
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Play so far, the players on each roster, rankings from previous years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

You don't even list a team that is easily one of the top five teams on the island
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire
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If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

That’s last years (20/21) rankings 😆 — Many rosters have flipped and changed for 21/22 - Current ranking won’t be available until Fall Ball concludes....Cmon’ man 🤦

https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2021
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

That’s last years (20/21) rankings 😆 — Many rosters have flipped and changed for 21/22 - Current ranking won’t be available until Fall Ball concludes....Cmon’ man 🤦

https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2021

Yea this dudes list is way off. The original version is a more accurate representations but leaves off liberty which is too 5 and elevate should be in bottom 5.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

That’s last years (20/21) rankings 😆 — Many rosters have flipped and changed for 21/22 - Current ranking won’t be available until Fall Ball concludes....Cmon’ man 🤦
https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2021

You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

That’s last years (20/21) rankings 😆 — Many rosters have flipped and changed for 21/22 - Current ranking won’t be available until Fall Ball concludes....Cmon’ man 🤦
https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2021

You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.

Elevate should be around 10. I’d put jesters around wherever you put Kildare.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.

Top 5:
Weiner
Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
Kildare
You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets[/quote]

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters[/quote]

Massive change? How so? Internal change with players moving from A to B teams and vice versa or external change with players moving from other clubs?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.

Elevate should be around 10. I’d put jesters around wherever you put Kildare.

Elevate lost many of their best 24’ girls! It has One team now , mostly B players. They probably are more like the bottom 3 !
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.

Elevate should be around 10. I’d put jesters around wherever you put Kildare.

Elevate lost many of their best 24’ girls! It has One team now , mostly B players. They probably are more like the bottom 3 !

Most elevate kids moved to liberty, jesters black, and YJ Kildare. Also, didn't jesters just beat Kildare?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So how does the pecking order fall for teams talent levels this year?

YJ Weiner
Legacy
YJ Ramos
YJ Kildare
Jesters Black
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
FLG
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
Lax On
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana


what’s your list based off of?

Missing Liberty. They belong in the top 5, drop Jesters down to top ten, not five.

Elevate should be around 10. I’d put jesters around wherever you put Kildare.

Elevate lost many of their best 24’ girls! It has One team now , mostly B players. They probably are more like the bottom 3 !

Most elevate kids moved to liberty, jesters black, and YJ Kildare. Also, didn't jesters just beat Kildare?

Are you talking about the silly 7v7s again? That’s ridiculous
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You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters[/quote]

Massive change? How so? Internal change with players moving from A to B teams and vice versa or external change with players moving from other clubs?[/quote]

91 merged with bandits, elevate lost all A players, Kildare O'Sullivan and Ramos lost some top kids, Jesters pulled top kids from elevate and a few other clubs, Top guns black moved kids down and took cuts from legacy and 91 as well as a girl from the 23 team, etc. There was a lot of change this year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters

Massive change? How so? Internal change with players moving from A to B teams and vice versa or external change with players moving from other clubs?[/quote]

91 merged with bandits, elevate lost all A players, Kildare O'Sullivan and Ramos lost some top kids, Jesters pulled top kids from elevate and a few other clubs, Top guns black moved kids down and took cuts from legacy and 91 as well as a girl from the 23 team, etc. There was a lot of change this year.[/quote]

The top Elevate players did not go to Jesters. They left and went to Liberty and YJ Kildare. Some did go to Jesters, but not the top 3.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters

Massive change? How so? Internal change with players moving from A to B teams and vice versa or external change with players moving from other clubs?

91 merged with bandits, elevate lost all A players, Kildare O'Sullivan and Ramos lost some top kids, Jesters pulled top kids from elevate and a few other clubs, Top guns black moved kids down and took cuts from legacy and 91 as well as a girl from the 23 team, etc. There was a lot of change this year.[/quote]

The top Elevate players did not go to Jesters. They left and went to Liberty and YJ Kildare. Some did go to Jesters, but not the top 3.[/quote]

Are you really that blinded that you think that the only good clubs are on Long Island? Here are the rankings through the Summer. https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2020. You are missing a ton.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You really think it will change that much at this age. No major movement - doesn’t really matter anymore- the work has been put in over the last few years. The rankings will help with placement in tourney brackets

There will be massive change. Elevate, top guns, 91, liberty, jesters, and more have drastically changed their rosters

Massive change? How so? Internal change with players moving from A to B teams and vice versa or external change with players moving from other clubs?

91 merged with bandits, elevate lost all A players, Kildare O'Sullivan and Ramos lost some top kids, Jesters pulled top kids from elevate and a few other clubs, Top guns black moved kids down and took cuts from legacy and 91 as well as a girl from the 23 team, etc. There was a lot of change this year.

The top Elevate players did not go to Jesters. They left and went to Liberty and YJ Kildare. Some did go to Jesters, but not the top 3.[/quote]

Are you really that blinded that you think that the only good clubs are on Long Island? Here are the rankings through the Summer. https://www.USCL.com/rank?v=2024&alpha=N&y=2020. You are missing a ton.[/quote]

Think you are missing the point of this discussion
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana
Lax on ?
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Lax on ?

Lax off?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

Jesters? LOL
Sorry-Not better than Ramos, Liberty, Kildare , O’Sullivan, Top Guns , Lax On or Empire
The key acquisitions are all the players that didn’t make 91. And they took a bunch of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

Jesters? LOL
Sorry-Not better than Ramos, Liberty, Kildare , O’Sullivan, Top Guns , Lax On or Empire
The key acquisitions are all the players that didn’t make 91. And they took a bunch of them.

Not accurate. Only two kids on jesters black from 91 you got your info wrong. The new players are from top guns and elevate. I’d agree that Ramos and liberty are definitely higher. You’re crazy if you think 91 or empire come anywhere close to higher on that list.

Not sure where the poster got the idea that liberty isn’t up there with legacy and Weiner. Those should be top three. Kildare and Jesters are of similar talent level now. I think the poster was right in the fact that Ramos , jesters, TG black, Kildare could all shift at any moment. I think it’s easier to agree upon the fact that the bottom half is correct. There is no doubt that the empire, flg, and 91 “A” teams are the bottom 3 of the A tier teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

Jesters? LOL
Sorry-Not better than Ramos, Liberty, Kildare , O’Sullivan, Top Guns , Lax On or Empire
The key acquisitions are all the players that didn’t make 91. And they took a bunch of them.

You know nothing Jon snow.
What’s important is have it a good team all the coaches will come to your games and see your
Player too
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s important is have it a good team all the coaches will come to your games and see your
Player too

If you’re in a team attending top events like presidents cup you’re fine. It’s about who will allow the team into their tournaments and which clubs are able to access them. Some clubs put their teams back into their own tournaments to recycle the tuition money back to them over and over. Not going to mention a name, but anyone can figure it out
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

Jesters? LOL
Sorry-Not better than Ramos, Liberty, Kildare , O’Sullivan, Top Guns , Lax On or Empire
The key acquisitions are all the players that didn’t make 91. And they took a bunch of them.

Wow - Suggest you might want to get your information elsewhere. Way off the mark. Out in left field for that matter. Heck, not even in the same ballpark. Or better yet, you may just follow a whole new sport in general ....LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

Tribe is another with mostly 2024s- Kilgus coaches it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I was actually curious about this as well. I noticed my daughters teammates on a team, and am hoping she can find a way to pop in as well. I guess asking her friend would be the easiest, but curious how you would get on without a friend on the team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I was actually curious about this as well. I noticed my daughters teammates on a team, and am hoping she can find a way to pop in as well. I guess asking her friend would be the easiest, but curious how you would get on without a friend on the team

One way on to some of them is to pay for private and group training with the coach of the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.

So these coaches are working for free ? What’s the point of that for them ?

Still doesn’t help me get my kid on. I guess the answer is email Tribe Lightning or power on Instagram and see if they have space ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What’s important is have it a good team all the coaches will come to your games and see your
Player too

If you’re in a team attending top events like presidents cup you’re fine. It’s about who will allow the team into their tournaments and which clubs are able to access them. Some clubs put their teams back into their own tournaments to recycle the tuition money back to them over and over. Not going to mention a name, but anyone can figure it out

My lacrosse tournaments ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.

So these coaches are working for free ? What’s the point of that for them ?

Still doesn’t help me get my kid on. I guess the answer is email Tribe Lightning or power on Instagram and see if they have space ?

Yes they do it for free. Some of them it’s to keep girls who have been friends together, some it’s because they care about the kids, and some do it because they love the sport: regardless, it’s awesome for kids to play with new people and to get more time on the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.

So these coaches are working for free ? What’s the point of that for them ?

Still doesn’t help me get my kid on. I guess the answer is email Tribe Lightning or power on Instagram and see if they have space ?

Yes they do it for free. Some of them it’s to keep girls who have been friends together, some it’s because they care about the kids, and some do it because they love the sport: regardless, it’s awesome for kids to play with new people and to get more time on the field.

And…most of the time it’s a parent coaching, doing it for their kid as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.

So these coaches are working for free ? What’s the point of that for them ?

Still doesn’t help me get my kid on. I guess the answer is email Tribe Lightning or power on Instagram and see if they have space ?

Yes they do it for free. Some of them it’s to keep girls who have been friends together, some it’s because they care about the kids, and some do it because they love the sport: regardless, it’s awesome for kids to play with new people and to get more time on the field.

And…most of the time it’s a parent coaching, doing it for their kid as well.

Exactly. Not many people will do it unless it’s for money. It’s why you see so many parent coaching coaching club as well. The money isn’t good enough for the amount of time unless your kid is playing for free
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

Not sure if people pay for tribe, but lightening and power have no tuition. They only pay for the events they participate in.

So these coaches are working for free ? What’s the point of that for them ?

Still doesn’t help me get my kid on. I guess the answer is email Tribe Lightning or power on Instagram and see if they have space ?

Yes they do it for free. Some of them it’s to keep girls who have been friends together, some it’s because they care about the kids, and some do it because they love the sport: regardless, it’s awesome for kids to play with new people and to get more time on the field.

And…most of the time it’s a parent coaching, doing it for their kid as well.

Exactly. Not many people will do it unless it’s for money. It’s why you see so many parent coaching coaching club as well. The money isn’t good enough for the amount of time unless your kid is playing for free

Going to reach out to some on social media and see if I can get her on a team
Is it true elevate only has one 24 team now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true elevate only has one 24 team now?

Totally surprised they can even field a 24 team at this point. Girls were all running for the exits !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true elevate only has one 24 team now?

Totally surprised they can even field a 24 team at this point. Girls were all running for the exits !!

Unfortunate for them they had some strong girls over the years
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

I’d suggest moving some of those top ten teams lower down. Go check out scores from national fall lax today and you may have a different opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

I’d suggest moving some of those top ten teams lower down. Go check out scores from national fall lax today and you may have a different opinion.


Which teams played in it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

I’d suggest moving some of those top ten teams lower down. Go check out scores from national fall lax today and you may have a different opinion.

Only team from list that played at the National Fall Lax Tourney was LaxOn. And your point?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you look at US Club rankings its:

YJ Weiner
YJ Ramos
Legacy
Liberty
YJ Kildare
Elevate
Top Guns Black
YJ O'Sullivan
Jesters Black
FLG
91Crossfire

This is pretty accurate though I might knock Elevate off the list completely as over the last two years their top 10 players have all left for other clubs. Empire should be above FLG as they have a decent team


This old list is completely inaccurate. Empire lost their goalie and a solid attacker to jesters. They will likely be back at the bottom. I think top guns and jesters move up, elevate empire 91 all stay bottom three, flg a tier ahead & libert, Weiner, and legacy stay too 3

Agree w/most, using any kind of ranking based on last season is most definitely inaccurate. So much movement in the off season.

Remember this is simply based off of any type of Fall ball and recent acquisitions/departures on field and staff. Don’t stress too much about any of this parents. A lot of lacrosse to be played. After Weiner, top 5 teams are similar in skill set and club offerings (Training, Recruiting Capabilities, Showcases attending etc)


YJ Weiner
Legacy
Jesters Black
YJ Ramos
Liberty *invisible, so who knows
YJ Kildare
Lax On
YJ Osullivan
Top Guns Black
Empire Bengals
91 Bandits Orange
FLG
Top Guns Purple
91 Bandits Navy
Recon
Ohana

I’d suggest moving some of those top ten teams lower down. Go check out scores from national fall lax today and you may have a different opinion.


Which teams played in it?

Laxon
Any scores from any Long Island teams recently ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from any Long Island teams recently ?


All the big tournaments start Nov. 6th, and continue throughout the month.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from any Long Island teams recently ?


All the big tournaments start Nov. 6th, and continue throughout the month.

Only teams who have played are laxon and then YJ/Jesters in 7 v 7s.
Is Laxon like sponsored by back of the cage ? Is there a reason they don’t post about them when it’s negative.

They got smacked at fall national by teams around 100 ranking
7-1
10-3
9-4

That’s what happens when you don’t make a single cut
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Laxon like sponsored by back of the cage ? Is there a reason they don’t post about them when it’s negative.

They got smacked at fall national by teams around 100 ranking
7-1
10-3
9-4

That’s what happens when you don’t make a single cut

We all knew that those women are money hungry jokes this forum warned the families. Let the girls throw their futures away, that’s their problem.
Long Island lacrosse going downhill?

You have laxon that just got smoked by teams ranked in the 100s.

Then you have 91 “A” playing in a bracket with teams ranked 140

Then at prime time you have jesters b team (pink) who lost every single game last year playing YJ O’Sullivan.

I can understand jesters pink and O’Sullivan match ups since their the clubs weakest teams at this age group, but lax on calls themselves “ elite”

Don’t even get me started on prior bandits parents converted 91 running around soccer sidelines this fall boasting about their true A team that is playing teams ranked so low that an 8th grade team could beat them. If they’re as good as their parents want to boast about at least put them in a competitive bracket. What a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island lacrosse going downhill?

You have laxon that just got smoked by teams ranked in the 100s.

Then you have 91 “A” playing in a bracket with teams ranked 140

Then at prime time you have jesters b team (pink) who lost every single game last year playing YJ O’Sullivan.

I can understand jesters pink and O’Sullivan match ups since their the clubs weakest teams at this age group, but lax on calls themselves “ elite”

Don’t even get me started on prior bandits parents converted 91 running around soccer sidelines this fall boasting about their true A team that is playing teams ranked so low that an 8th grade team could beat them. If they’re as good as their parents want to boast about at least put them in a competitive bracket. What a joke.


We all know that 91 isn't an A team. The few good kids should have left when the rest of that team left a few years ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island lacrosse going downhill?

You have laxon that just got smoked by teams ranked in the 100s.

Then you have 91 “A” playing in a bracket with teams ranked 140

Then at prime time you have jesters b team (pink) who lost every single game last year playing YJ O’Sullivan.

I can understand jesters pink and O’Sullivan match ups since their the clubs weakest teams at this age group, but lax on calls themselves “ elite”

Don’t even get me started on prior bandits parents converted 91 running around soccer sidelines this fall boasting about their true A team that is playing teams ranked so low that an 8th grade team could beat them. If they’re as good as their parents want to boast about at least put them in a competitive bracket. What a joke.


So sad get a life!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island lacrosse going downhill?

You have laxon that just got smoked by teams ranked in the 100s.

Then you have 91 “A” playing in a bracket with teams ranked 140

Then at prime time you have jesters b team (pink) who lost every single game last year playing YJ O’Sullivan.

I can understand jesters pink and O’Sullivan match ups since their the clubs weakest teams at this age group, but lax on calls themselves “ elite”

Don’t even get me started on prior bandits parents converted 91 running around soccer sidelines this fall boasting about their true A team that is playing teams ranked so low that an 8th grade team could beat them. If they’re as good as their parents want to boast about at least put them in a competitive bracket. What a joke.


So sad get a life!


It’s true though. A parent a while back was complaining about how the bracket they were in for an upcoming tournament is teams in top 30 and 100s mixed together which is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is a solid b team playing against d teams - 91- and then teams who don’t have enough chimesitey yet - lx on- playing teams clearly above their skill level. O’Dullivan will also massacre jesters pink
Why so concerned? None of those girls are gonna steal your daughter’s thunder or spot at a top 10 school so keep beating your chest. Or maybe it hits a little to close to home, reminds you of the days when YOU weren’t all that or on the top team? Be proud of your kid and go hit the therapy couch bud.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets
I would imagine if your whole team wasn't asked to play this is something extra that she is doing on her own time (Not Jesters time) so I am not sure why you are upset about it? If you feel your daughter needs more hit the wall, visit the track or just go shoot some balls. Don't leave it up to others to push your child some needs to come from within.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets


We were asked about fall ball and couldn't do it because there are too many girls playing varsity sports. If you were part of the team you'd know she reached out to us through our team chat. It is also ironic you think the coaches don't care when they placed us into an extra fall tournament and have led film studies, team meetings, three team bonding events, play books with animations, a conditioning and drill plan for outside of practice, a scrimmge, and three recruiting zooms on their own time. We are a family that didn't play fall league because we couldn't and no one is upset. We have gotten more this year than we ever have but we appreciate your concern.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

Power parent here. We were openly told before our most recent game that Coach had to prioritize jesters for another opportunity our team wanted to do this winter. You really are so off in your assessment here and very transparent in thinking you're going to hurt her kids. She made it clear to us when she formed power jesters was her main priority. The kids are enjoying themselves don't be a buzz kill.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would imagine if your whole team wasn't asked to play this is something extra that she is doing on her own time (Not Jesters time) so I am not sure why you are upset about it? If you feel your daughter needs more hit the wall, visit the track or just go shoot some balls. Don't leave it up to others to push your child some needs to come from within.

Not worth your time entertaining this person. The team has practiced every week since the beginning of september in addition to dozens of other opportunies this guy clearly isnt part of our team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

We versed them with our YJ team during fall ball. The majority of that team is jesters I believe, as is the lightning team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets


We were asked about fall ball and couldn't do it because there are too many girls playing varsity sports. If you were part of the team you'd know she reached out to us through our team chat. It is also ironic you think the coaches don't care when they placed us into an extra fall tournament and have led film studies, team meetings, three team bonding events, play books with animations, a conditioning and drill plan for outside of practice, a scrimmge, and three recruiting zooms on their own time. We are a family that didn't play fall league because we couldn't and no one is upset. We have gotten more this year than we ever have but we appreciate your concern.

Didn't you guys also do weight lifting? It saw the 24 teams were tagged on the GLE instagram and on coaches pages but not other aged groups so assuming it was only that group of kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets


We were asked about fall ball and couldn't do it because there are too many girls playing varsity sports. If you were part of the team you'd know she reached out to us through our team chat. It is also ironic you think the coaches don't care when they placed us into an extra fall tournament and have led film studies, team meetings, three team bonding events, play books with animations, a conditioning and drill plan for outside of practice, a scrimmge, and three recruiting zooms on their own time. We are a family that didn't play fall league because we couldn't and no one is upset. We have gotten more this year than we ever have but we appreciate your concern.


Seems like either someone is pretending to be part of your team or isn't taking advantage of opportunities
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets


We were asked about fall ball and couldn't do it because there are too many girls playing varsity sports. If you were part of the team you'd know she reached out to us through our team chat. It is also ironic you think the coaches don't care when they placed us into an extra fall tournament and have led film studies, team meetings, three team bonding events, play books with animations, a conditioning and drill plan for outside of practice, a scrimmge, and three recruiting zooms on their own time. We are a family that didn't play fall league because we couldn't and no one is upset. We have gotten more this year than we ever have but we appreciate your concern.


Seems like either someone is pretending to be part of your team or isn't taking advantage of opportunities


In reality it’s probably a coach or director from another program trying to start rumors. Not on either team and you can see right through it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets


We were asked about fall ball and couldn't do it because there are too many girls playing varsity sports. If you were part of the team you'd know she reached out to us through our team chat. It is also ironic you think the coaches don't care when they placed us into an extra fall tournament and have led film studies, team meetings, three team bonding events, play books with animations, a conditioning and drill plan for outside of practice, a scrimmge, and three recruiting zooms on their own time. We are a family that didn't play fall league because we couldn't and no one is upset. We have gotten more this year than we ever have but we appreciate your concern.


Seems like either someone is pretending to be part of your team or isn't taking advantage of opportunities


In reality it’s probably a coach or director from another program trying to start rumors. Not on either team and you can see right through it.


The pettiness of some people is so amusing clearly your kid is on a cruddy team and is trying to bring down a team that has no impact on your life
Sometimes coaches want to play varying competition levels. I would not put too much into a team playing in a division and facing a wider range of competition. Some college coaches like to see
how kids do against varying competition as well. Finally, the coaches get a final say when the schedule come out if they want to move or try to pivot to a different division. Requests are not always honored but I think the tournaments do a good job of trying to accommodate reasonable requests.
Pick up teams are awesome. If you aren’t on one you should be. Don’t be bitter, get better.
As far as I know.....They do not matter in sense that there is nothing done with them, no awards, no use other than to give folks an idea of how competitive teams are. IMHO the algorithm used is as good as any basic algo and actually does a pretty decent job getting the teams in a reasonable, albeit not perfect order. I would say it is similar to saying to 200 kids, line up by height and stopping the process after the 1st 45 seconds. Generally speaking, I believe all teams in top 50 are within ~10 spots of where they should be, the 50-100 within ~15 spots, and the 100-150 within ~25 spots. Its anyone's guess on the last 50-70 teams, many of these teams do not have a good representative sampling of games played. You can click on the team and see all the scores as well as click one more time to see what he team they played was ranked. I am pretty sure the algorithm has only been in use for the last season Nov-July for the most part. It looks like they are re-setting and starting up fresh starting in Nov. 2021. Overall I give these rankings an A- for their 1st go around and honestly I don't think it necessarily needs may changes. Maybe a tweak or two to help dial in the 50-150 teams and something that takes in to account a team playing the same team within a week (at same tourney) - maybe average the scores or something.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Sometimes coaches want to play varying competition levels. I would not put too much into a team playing in a division and facing a wider range of competition. Some college coaches like to see
how kids do against varying competition as well. Finally, the coaches get a final say when the schedule come out if they want to move or try to pivot to a different division. Requests are not always honored but I think the tournaments do a good job of trying to accommodate reasonable requests.

I think it’s more so like weaker teams vs stronger teams with wide gaps. Games should be within a few goals
I would disagree with this, i responded to another post. That may have been case years ago. The current algorithm they are using, (i don't thin they actually starting using one until Nov. 2020) is pretty accurate.
How did Long Island Power fall ball? And I think 95% of team is Jesters or recently acquired Jesters that came the HS that she coaches.
Those rankings don't mean much. They don't consider the brackets that the teams play. Some of the teams that were ranked ridiculously higher then others be played in the lowest of brackets. While some of the teames ranked lower on the list played in top tier brackets played teams M&D Black, Skywalkers top team, CT Grizzlies , Monster, etc. I get that you're talking about LI teams, but as a whole you must consider where they would be ranked In the real world of lacrosse. Just something to to think about.
Those rankings don't mean much. They don't consider the brackets that the teams play. Some of the teams that were ranked ridiculously higher then others be played in the lowest of brackets. While some of the teames ranked lower on the list played in top tier brackets played teams M&D Black, Skywalkers top team, CT Grizzlies , Monster, etc. I get that you're talking about LI teams, but as a whole you must consider where they would be ranked In the real world of lacrosse. Just something to to think about.
Does anyone how the Tilts Jesters do in fall ball?
LI Power finished 2nd to last place with an 0-3-2 record according to Tourney machine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone how the Tilts Jesters do in fall ball?

They didn’t do fall ball
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Power finished 2nd to last place with an 0-3-2 record according to Tourney machine.

Seems like they tied a few teams. I don’t think it really matters though. The purpose of a pick up team isn’t really their record since they’re not a club. I think it’s more so just to get kids reps with players they don’t play with. I think if it was a town team or club team whose stats you were looking at it be a little different. Kids who have never been in a game together playing strong highschool and club teams is more about the field time rather than the score IMO
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone how the Tilts Jesters do in fall ball?

Jesters didn’t do fall ball. According to an earlier post too many kids with highschool sports commitments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those rankings don't mean much. They don't consider the brackets that the teams play. Some of the teams that were ranked ridiculously higher then others be played in the lowest of brackets. While some of the teames ranked lower on the list played in top tier brackets played teams M&D Black, Skywalkers top team, CT Grizzlies , Monster, etc. I get that you're talking about LI teams, but as a whole you must consider where they would be ranked In the real world of lacrosse. Just something to to think about.

I think that regardless of the bracket the algorithm takes into account prior teams rankings. If you look into how it actually ranks, it makes sense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

We versed them with our YJ team during fall ball. The majority of that team is jesters I believe, as is the lightning team.


FYI, the majority of the Lightning pick up team is not Jesters. There are girls from multiple LI clubs on that team. Jesters, Legacy, YJs, Liberty, LaxOn , that I know of. It’s great to see girls from multiple LI teams coming together and bonding, playing and supporting each other!! smile
They probably meant the league that was a pick up?? They had that new Jester coach?
It was addressed above 0-3-2 it was Jesters LI Power.
Never heard of Lightning. Were they good?
You're probably right. Thank you.
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.
It's my understanding that Tilts doesn't do much for free. Shakes the parents from her own team and other teams for C grade or training that is meant for girls 5 years younger. Kiddie training. $$$
Tilts = $ grab
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's my understanding that Tilts doesn't do much for free. Shakes the parents from her own team and other teams for C grade or training that is meant for girls 5 years younger. Kiddie training. $$$

As a parent who has their kid consistently with her it isn’t kiddie training at all. There’s a reason college coaches and other known trainers and her have a rapport. Maybe just an opinion, but then again so is yours. She trains a small handful of kids from her team, and many of the new players on jesters followed her from other programs to jesters because they love training with her. If you send her to your training and don’t like it no harm no foul.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

We versed them with our YJ team during fall ball. The majority of that team is jesters I believe, as is the lightning team.


FYI, the majority of the Lightning pick up team is not Jesters. There are girls from multiple LI clubs on that team. Jesters, Legacy, YJs, Liberty, LaxOn , that I know of. It’s great to see girls from multiple LI teams coming together and bonding, playing and supporting each other!! smile

Power is Jesters, legacy, top guns, 91, empire, and YJ Kildare. Tribe is yellow jackets and jesters mostly. Lightning as mentioned above is also a mix. It’s great for these girls to learn to play with others to really grow their skills!
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Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

We versed them with our YJ team during fall ball. The majority of that team is jesters I believe, as is the lightning team.


FYI, the majority of the Lightning pick up team is not Jesters. There are girls from multiple LI clubs on that team. Jesters, Legacy, YJs, Liberty, LaxOn , that I know of. It’s great to see girls from multiple LI teams coming together and bonding, playing and supporting each other!! smile

Power is Jesters, legacy, top guns, 91, empire, and YJ Kildare. Tribe is yellow jackets and jesters mostly. Lightning as mentioned above is also a mix. It’s great for these girls to learn to play with others to really grow their skills!

Come on now we know whoever is replying trying to say it’s no good is a coach who has kids on those teams whose threatened
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there tryouts for pick up teams? Don’t think my old post went through.

I’ve noticed that there are three 24 pick up teams and now a 2027 one according to the 27 thread.

I’d like to get my daughter onto one but not sure how. Do they play local only? Who runs them? What are the costs ?

I believe some of the pick up teams were started by parents and know of another started by a coach who trains girls from multiple teams. The coach’s (Tilts) team name is LI Power. I believe she has an instagram and you can maybe reach out to her for her future stuff. The fall league is almost over. Don’t know what other extra leagues/tournament they are doing? If you know of girls on a pick up team , ask them who is organizing it, and see if they need more players?

While (Tilts) offered a ‘Free’ 2024 fall team for her private clients and select others, the Jesters 2024 team had no entry and limited practices. Maybe she should pay more attention to the team she agreed to a Co-Head Coach for a salary. Only a few girls from jesters were asked to play in the fall and what do you think that does to team morale? The team could use the work and the 2 headed head coach doesn’t seem to be working when neither has the time for fall ball.
#ConflictofInterest
#HavingRegrets

We versed them with our YJ team during fall ball. The majority of that team is jesters I believe, as is the lightning team.


FYI, the majority of the Lightning pick up team is not Jesters. There are girls from multiple LI clubs on that team. Jesters, Legacy, YJs, Liberty, LaxOn , that I know of. It’s great to see girls from multiple LI teams coming together and bonding, playing and supporting each other!! smile

Power is Jesters, legacy, top guns, 91, empire, and YJ Kildare. Tribe is yellow jackets and jesters mostly. Lightning as mentioned above is also a mix. It’s great for these girls to learn to play with others to really grow their skills!

Sorry-Most of this is inaccurate..
Pickup teams are a mix of many teams but
Not many Jesters represented.. Maybe a few? But other clubs represented much more frequently.
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They probably meant the league that was a pick up?? They had that new Jester coach?
It was addressed above 0-3-2 it was Jesters LI Power.
Never heard of Lightning. Were they good?

Still are good, Lightning is in the playoffs! Yes, the power team was coached by Tilts. The new 24s Jesters coach.
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IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos

Also, their club teams don’t necessarily do these extra things. Nothing wrong with girls playing extra stuff on pick up teams for extra training if they are asked and club not doing. Great opportunity for them!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos

Also, their club teams don’t necessarily do these extra things. Nothing wrong with girls playing extra stuff on pick up teams for extra training if they are asked and club not doing. Great opportunity for them!!!

Completely agree. I’m sure that if someone also wanted to do a pickup team their coach was doing they would just need to ask. The people on here saying otherwise have alterior motives don’t be fooled
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.

What’s sad is that you are doing more posting lies on here about yourself than actual coaching. Reputations are made over time based on field success and not the lies you tell them on Back of the Cage.
Please stop talking about yourself and badmouthing others over and over. The only one attempting to change their narrative is you.
Sorry-The bashing of other clubs in the hopes that their players will come to you isn’t going to work. Posing as parents to talk about yourself or bad mouth another club is beyond ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos

Also, their club teams don’t necessarily do these extra things. Nothing wrong with girls playing extra stuff on pick up teams for extra training if they are asked and club not doing. Great opportunity for them!!!

Completely agree. I’m sure that if someone also wanted to do a pickup team their coach was doing they would just need to ask. The people on here saying otherwise have alterior motives don’t be fooled

Not only that, but anyone can form a pick up team to do this extra stuff. They don’t have to wait for coaches. Find some like minded parents and kids who want to do more than their team is offering… go for it. No use complaining about others doing it. Great opportunity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.

What’s sad is that you are doing more posting lies on here about yourself than actual coaching. Reputations are made over time based on field success and not the lies you tell them on Back of the Cage.
Please stop talking about yourself and badmouthing others over and over. The only one attempting to change their narrative is you.
Sorry-The bashing of other clubs in the hopes that their players will come to you isn’t going to work. Posing as parents to talk about yourself or bad mouth another club is beyond ridiculous.

I am not a coach and I am a parent. My post also says nothing about other clubs. Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify your child like behavior is on you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.

What’s sad is that you are doing more posting lies on here about yourself than actual coaching. Reputations are made over time based on field success and not the lies you tell them on Back of the Cage.
Please stop talking about yourself and badmouthing others over and over. The only one attempting to change their narrative is you.
Sorry-The bashing of other clubs in the hopes that their players will come to you isn’t going to work. Posing as parents to talk about yourself or bad mouth another club is beyond ridiculous.

This response is ridiculous, especially if this is an adult!? Very SAD … get a life!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tilts = $ grab

Her training is literally under $30 and she trains kids for free whose families can’t afford it mine being one of them. She picked my daughter up out of a very dark place with the sport. She was ready to quit due to bad experiences with previous school and travel coaches. Sam got through to her and continued training her for free when we couldn’t afford it. It’s so sad to see someone who clearly has something to gain by starting rumors about her. If you’ve never worked with her you really have no idea how much she cares about these kids and gives her all to them. It’s taken us 15 years of our kids life to find a coach who inspires her so whatever vendetta you have please keep it to yourself.

Agreed. These people are insane. I myself, as a prev club coach, boys coach and former D1 player. Samantha Tilts has been nothing but a model leader. On, and off the field. It is obvious that there are those on here with a grudge against her. For one reason or another. The only way they think they can get back at her is by hiding on here anonymously, with false claims and absurd narratives. Sad actually.

What’s sad is that you are doing more posting lies on here about yourself than actual coaching. Reputations are made over time based on field success and not the lies you tell them on Back of the Cage.
Please stop talking about yourself and badmouthing others over and over. The only one attempting to change their narrative is you.
Sorry-The bashing of other clubs in the hopes that their players will come to you isn’t going to work. Posing as parents to talk about yourself or bad mouth another club is beyond ridiculous.

This response is ridiculous, especially if this is an adult!? Very SAD … get a life!!

The person continuously posting from the same IP address is the only one making the same derogatory comments about the same girl over and over. It’s not hard to track who they are if you have any computer IQ at all. You won’t be surprised to know they are someone whose kid now plays for her old team. Just let the children act like children.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos

Also, their club teams don’t necessarily do these extra things. Nothing wrong with girls playing extra stuff on pick up teams for extra training if they are asked and club not doing. Great opportunity for them!!!

Completely agree. I’m sure that if someone also wanted to do a pickup team their coach was doing they would just need to ask. The people on here saying otherwise have alterior motives don’t be fooled

Not only that, but anyone can form a pick up team to do this extra stuff. They don’t have to wait for coaches. Find some like minded parents and kids who want to do more than their team is offering… go for it. No use complaining about others doing it. Great opportunity.

A lot of pick up teams are formed by parents and they reach out to a coach for the team. That’s how tribe, lightning, and power started. A parent started it for their kids and coached it, or in the case of power and tribe requested it from a coach and helped set it up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO the girls should play with girls from they're own team for morale building and extra reps together. It only makes sense and as someone mentioned probably is going to be a morale killer and yet another reason for parents to complain. They find reasons to complain enough.

These pick up teams definitely can cause animosity if you act your daughters age. Any chance to play is a good one in my book. It doesn’t hurt anyone to get your kid more reps. I’m sure if you know the lightning or power coaches and simply ask if they need subs they’ll gladly take you. If you’re a parent whose being a sour laxers that they didn’t get pulled to a pick up team you have bigger problemos

Also, their club teams don’t necessarily do these extra things. Nothing wrong with girls playing extra stuff on pick up teams for extra training if they are asked and club not doing. Great opportunity for them!!!

Completely agree. I’m sure that if someone also wanted to do a pickup team their coach was doing they would just need to ask. The people on here saying otherwise have alterior motives don’t be fooled

Not only that, but anyone can form a pick up team to do this extra stuff. They don’t have to wait for coaches. Find some like minded parents and kids who want to do more than their team is offering… go for it. No use complaining about others doing it. Great opportunity.

A lot of pick up teams are formed by parents and they reach out to a coach for the team. That’s how tribe, lightning, and power started. A parent started it for their kids and coached it, or in the case of power and tribe requested it from a coach and helped set it up.

Pick up teams don’t hurt anyone. If you are worried your kid has teammates on a pick up team then you have bigger issues to worry about
Unless I had a freaky Friday moment and switched bodies with her I am not a coach.

Also money grab? You’re talking about the same coach that does multiple events for free zooms with kids privately to help with recruiting, bought Halloween goodie bags for kids yesterday, ordered her injured player a gift, and then ordered another injured kid food yesterday because she couldn’t walk around with her friends. All you’re doing is giving parents who know her a platform to talk about what she’s doing for kids she trains and coaches. If you didn’t keep bringing her up we wouldn’t be on here giving her the publicity you’re so desperate to make disappear.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unless I had a freaky Friday moment and switched bodies with her I am not a coach.

Also money grab? You’re talking about the same coach that does multiple events for free zooms with kids privately to help with recruiting, bought Halloween goodie bags for kids yesterday, ordered her injured player a gift, and then ordered another injured kid food yesterday because she couldn’t walk around with her friends. All you’re doing is giving parents who know her a platform to talk about what she’s doing for kids she trains and coaches. If you didn’t keep bringing her up we wouldn’t be on here giving her the publicity you’re so desperate to make disappear.

Great post. Couldn’t agree more.
I'm glad the same clown keeps making posts and creating more responses in support of coach Tilts.

I love to read parents posting how the coach helped their daughters! I have never met the lady, but I may have to get her venmo info and send her $ for just being just a great role model and teacher! Sounds like she will put the $ to good use!

I hope more people do the same do drive the clown crazy!
Stronger teams are in Maryland this weekend right? Whose going where?
Lightning takes the Fall Leaugue over some really talented teams! who is this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lightning takes the Fall Leaugue over some really talented teams! who is this team?

It’s one of the pick up teams. It’s a mix of kids but mostly kids who played together when they were little.
In reply to where teams are- it seems like all the stronger teams were at primetime and many will be at rivalry or Chesapeake today. NXT, a typically strong team, is holding their own event so they will be in PA but the only other teams at that event are extremely weak. You know there’s an issue when Blue Devils is in a AA bracket. It’ll make NXT feel good to crush weak teams and then anyone not playing NXT will lose by a lot or win by a lot. Not much talent there except NXT. What’s the point of AA brackets when the teams in them are lower b and c teams.

Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In reply to where teams are- it seems like all the stronger teams were at primetime and many will be at rivalry or Chesapeake today. NXT, a typically strong team, is holding their own event so they will be in PA but the only other teams at that event are extremely weak. You know there’s an issue when Blue Devils is in a AA bracket. It’ll make NXT feel good to crush weak teams and then anyone not playing NXT will lose by a lot or win by a lot. Not much talent there except NXT. What’s the point of AA brackets when the teams in them are lower b and c teams.

Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.

A few are also at Northeast
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In reply to where teams are- it seems like all the stronger teams were at primetime and many will be at rivalry or Chesapeake today. NXT, a typically strong team, is holding their own event so they will be in PA but the only other teams at that event are extremely weak. You know there’s an issue when Blue Devils is in a AA bracket. It’ll make NXT feel good to crush weak teams and then anyone not playing NXT will lose by a lot or win by a lot. Not much talent there except NXT. What’s the point of AA brackets when the teams in them are lower b and c teams.

Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.

Top Guns and Liberty are at Northeast Showcase today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In reply to where teams are- it seems like all the stronger teams were at primetime and many will be at rivalry or Chesapeake today. NXT, a typically strong team, is holding their own event so they will be in PA but the only other teams at that event are extremely weak. You know there’s an issue when Blue Devils is in a AA bracket. It’ll make NXT feel good to crush weak teams and then anyone not playing NXT will lose by a lot or win by a lot. Not much talent there except NXT. What’s the point of AA brackets when the teams in them are lower b and c teams.

Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.

I wonder why NXT made this tournament at the same time as big recruiting ones.
Kildare looked good at rivalry
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
In reply to where teams are- it seems
Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.

I wonder why NXT made this tournament at the same time as big recruiting ones.

My guess : To host a fine tourney and maybe make some money. I’m sure there were coaches there though I suspect less than the others. Just a guess but lot of truth in that.
Nothing improper
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In reply to where teams are- it seems like all the stronger teams were at primetime and many will be at rivalry or Chesapeake today. NXT, a typically strong team, is holding their own event so they will be in PA but the only other teams at that event are extremely weak. You know there’s an issue when Blue Devils is in a AA bracket. It’ll make NXT feel good to crush weak teams and then anyone not playing NXT will lose by a lot or win by a lot. Not much talent there except NXT. What’s the point of AA brackets when the teams in them are lower b and c teams.

Most teams are at Rivalry over Chesapeake today including legacy and YJ.

Top Guns and Liberty are at Northeast Showcase today.

We’re there many coaches there? 24 sidelines were lined with top d1 coaches at primetime
Remember when someone on here kept saying no d1 coaches are looking at 24s this fall? Jokes on you pal. At least ten top d1 coaches on 24 sidelines at primetime and rivalry this weekend
Chesapeake was loaded with top coaches at 24 games too. You name them and they were there.
Looks like all YJ teams looked strong out there this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like all YJ teams looked strong out there this weekend.

Long Island teams in maryland looked good all around. Coaches like Maryland, JMU, UNC on sidelines of 24s was awesome to see.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like all YJ teams looked strong out there this weekend.

Long Island teams in maryland looked good all around. Coaches like Maryland, JMU, UNC on sidelines of 24s was awesome to see.

Jesters...
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

I can see Rivalry scores, but not Prime Time.
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like all YJ teams looked strong out there this weekend.

Long Island teams in maryland looked good all around. Coaches like Maryland, JMU, UNC on sidelines of 24s was awesome to see.

Jesters...

Jesters pink didn't look too hot. Tourney machine says they lost to YJ White (O'Sullivan) by 3.Jesters black, Kildare, and Legacy had the same schools at their games and from walking around all the teams had some stand out kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

That may be true but aren't scores needed to help determine brackets of future tournaments?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

That may be true but aren't scores needed to help determine brackets of future tournaments?

No your club directors choose them when entering the teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

At this age the scores should be within 4 goals max. Teams playing against teams they are beating by 8+ goals is helping no one. Colleges coaches can't use those games since they aren't seeing the players against strong compeittion. All it shows is that girls can run through players who look like they've never touched a stick. Scores should be used by clubs to determine why they are putting teams in certain tournaments and brackets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

That may be true but aren't scores needed to help determine brackets of future tournaments?

No your club directors choose them when entering the teams

And there are some club directors that have a misguided view of the strength of their teams Does no one any favors to have teams mis-placed in too high a bracket.
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

That may be true but aren't scores needed to help determine brackets of future tournaments?

No your club directors choose them when entering the teams

And there are some club directors that have a misguided view of the strength of their teams Does no one any favors to have teams mis-placed in too high a bracket.

There are also teams whose coaches purposfully like them to play up to make parents and kids think that the team walks on water.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know whats up with tourney machine? scores aren't showing for primetime or rivalry challenge.

Not all tournaments that are purely recruiting (i.e. no playoff bracket) enter game scores. Scores don't matter to the college coaches.

That may be true but aren't scores needed to help determine brackets of future tournaments?

No your club directors choose them when entering the teams

And there are some club directors that have a misguided view of the strength of their teams Does no one any favors to have teams mis-placed in too high a bracket.

There are also teams whose coaches purposfully like them to play up to make parents and kids think that the team walks on water.

Until they get embarrassed and lose by 10+
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall

detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall

detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

Run run run as fast as you can to another program so you can get into Dallas
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall

detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

Run run run as fast as you can to another program so you can get into Dallas

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall

detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

Run run run as fast as you can to another program so you can get into Dallas

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class

91, icon, blue devils, elevate
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall


detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

Run run run as fast as you can to another program so you can get into Dallas

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class

91, icon, blue devils, elevate

Unsurprising
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall

detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

Run run run as fast as you can to another program so you can get into Dallas

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class

91, icon, blue devils, elevate

Sounds like more smear campaign by our favorite Back of the Cage character. Too busy worrying about and broadcasting everyone else’s flaws and ignoring their own. Keep it classy Long Island.
Why did Kildare play teams ranked 176 last year these brackets make no sense
Is there broadcasting of flaws happening? Have you read every back of the cage thread? This is what people do; discuss local teams. There are a million different posts on this website every day from dozens of people that discusslacrosse news
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there broadcasting of flaws happening? Have you read every back of the cage thread? This is what people do; discuss local teams. There are a million different posts on this website every day from dozens of people that discusslacrosse news

This page is meant to discuss flaws and triumphs. Someone pointed out that some teams are in a weak fall schedule who cares. Is it really hurting your ego?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall


detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class

91, icon, blue devils, elevate

Unsurprising

I think some tournaments let some teams register early if they’re a stronger team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

It’s just a snapshot of where teams are at right now once more games occur it will populate more. It’s still interesting to see where local teams compare at the moment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

Not that fall rankings mean much, but you should know that previous seasons rankings (in any sport) mean absolutely nothing when compared to any given current season power rankings. Teams acquire talent, teams lose talent yada yada yada - whole new season for all
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

While I do agree that it may be early and not a lot of data yet you also need to take into accounnt rosters change and skill level changes. You had empire beat a top 50 team last weekend than lose to a team ranked 86th today. The reasons ratings start fresh every fall is because of roster changes, last year rankings are no longer accurate. By the end of fall rankings should truly represent what teams look like. Give it two more weeks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Will it hurt my daughter for recruiting if her team is only in NXT and then a local my lacrosse tournaments event for the fall? Hearing about some other teams experiences this fall is worrisome.

It’s indicative about the type of tournaments your club can get you in your daughter also is missing 3-4 big time recruiting events this fall and therefore is behind the players given the chance to be seen all fall


detest to say it for your kids sake but they are in a bad spot if that’s what your club is offering. It may mean they can’t get you into good tournaments or are not willing to spend the money on better ones. Good d1 programs are onto their 24s so they can put offers out next September.

What programs aren’t in any fall recruiting events? That’s really wrong to do to a sophomore class

91, icon, blue devils, elevate

I think some tournaments let some teams register early if they’re a stronger team

I agree about first three teams but how did elevate fall so quickly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.


You obviously are upset because you don’t like where your team is or you’re not on it yet. Relax it won’t hurt your kid at all
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

Not that fall rankings mean much, but you should know that previous seasons rankings (in any sport) mean absolutely nothing when compared to any given current season power rankings. Teams acquire talent, teams lose talent yada yada yada - whole new season for all

Wish their was a like button for this recent reply
Any upcoming events I should put my kid in?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

Not that fall rankings mean much, but you should know that previous seasons rankings (in any sport) mean absolutely nothing when compared to any given current season power rankings. Teams acquire talent, teams lose talent yada yada yada - whole new season for all

Wish their was a like button for this recent reply

rankings are meaningless who cares
By saying best a top 50 team I’d wager team was in the 40’s? Than beats the 86th team?
Well if you think the 46th ranked team is in reality any different than the 86th team we’ll come on now.
Outside of top tier there’s pretty equal teams maybe 31-100. I bet over that they all equally not so good
This 2024 group has the most drama and the least talent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This 2024 group has the most drama and the least talent

Hahaha
I’m not sure about the talent but plenty of drama with this group.
The Rankings are BS and will much different very soon once everyone starts posting game scores. Saying this is a small sample size is beyond an understatement.
I will guarantee that a majority of the teams in the top 10 will no longer be around in a week. Several will be where they belong between 50 and 100. A regular in the top 5 year after year blew out one of these teams and isn’t ranked at all.
How was the 24 talent this weekend? Were coaches watching or still looking at 23s?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was the 24 talent this weekend? Were coaches watching or still looking at 23s?

Coaches are watching the stronger 24 teams. D2 d3 are still on 2023s
The '24 talent in my daughter's club is a far cry from the '22 or '23 class. I actually think the '25 team could be the '24 team. Not a strong class.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The '24 talent in my daughter's club is a far cry from the '22 or '23 class. I actually think the '25 team could be the '24 team. Not a strong class.

Lol. Yes, your sample size is totally adequate to make that claim.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

Not that fall rankings mean much, but you should know that previous seasons rankings (in any sport) mean absolutely nothing when compared to any given current season power rankings. Teams acquire talent, teams lose talent yada yada yada - whole new season for all

Wish their was a like button for this recent reply

No like button needed. It’s a pipe dream. Have those current top teams play in a 5a portion of a bracket and see how good they are. If you don’t know about that ask your director.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The '24 talent in my daughter's club is a far cry from the '22 or '23 class. I actually think the '25 team could be the '24 team. Not a strong class.

Ummmm, let me guess? You are a ‘25 parent… right? Lol. I’m sure your ‘25 team could scrimmage your clubs ‘24 team if your coach would like to. What club are you referring too?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

While I do agree that it may be early and not a lot of data yet you also need to take into accounnt rosters change and skill level changes. You had empire beat a top 50 team last weekend than lose to a team ranked 86th today. The reasons ratings start fresh every fall is because of roster changes, last year rankings are no longer accurate. By the end of fall rankings should truly represent what teams look like. Give it two more weeks.

Yellow jackets , monster , Grizzlies , M&D , heros , Skywalkers will always be at the top with a few random teams filling in. If you wanna see for yourself ask to play them. It’s also where all the top coaches will be watching. Guarantee they weren’t watching the current fantasy land rankings ! Thus making the rankings a joke.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The '24 talent in my daughter's club is a far cry from the '22 or '23 class. I actually think the '25 team could be the '24 team. Not a strong class.

Ummmm, let me guess? You are a ‘25 parent… right? Lol. I’m sure your ‘25 team could scrimmage your clubs ‘24 team if your coach would like to. What club are you referring too?

YJ 25s will beat all but the A 2024 teams on any given day
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Rankings out. LMAO. What a joke.
Of course it’s a joke currently, not a big enough sample size, if you’re worried about that now, you’re a joke

If you don’t think it’s a joke then please look at the top 10 and compare the rankings from last year.

1.34th
2.81st
3.14th
4.67th
5.45th
6.38th
7.65th
8.26th
9.99th
10.41st

Also, look at these teams early results for the fall and realize that last years rankings are mostly accurate. Last years season only ended in August.

Saying small sample size doesn’t cut it. Try no sample size

These rankings are bizarre b/c most of these teams historically have never done much, have lost half their games and lost to bad teams.

One of the teams in the top 5, was a low level team last year, started the year with a mediocre 4-3 record.
Lost to 72nd ranked team, barely beat FLG ranked 110, lost to the 48th ranked team and blown out by an unranked team.
Something people aren’t realizing is that many clubs aren’t playing with their true teams. You’ll notice YJ is entering tournaments as colors not team names because they are moving kids around as needed to fill rosters. I saw a kid on jesters at primetime I know is on their b team. Kids from o Sullivan also played up on Kildare for numbers this fall. There are a lot of kids who can’t attend fall tournaments because they are varsity athletes or have other obligations. If you have an athletic team you probably have multiple sport players who have conflicts.

No one is actually concerned with rankings even our team which is ranked sixth. It’s the fall. Sample sizes, new rosters, kids playing around to for subs etc mess up the fall calculations.

Also went in to look at “blown out of the water” someone referred to earlier by an “unranked team.” If my digging is correct rhe unranked team that killed a team in the top five is YJ Weiner which is far from “unranked” they are top five every year and would destroy the majority of the teams on Long Island.
The only people who care about these rankings are the dads living through their kids…no one cares! Let it go. Who cares about sample size or where teams are ranked right now?!! Fall isn’t even over. You people are too much.
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Something people aren’t realizing is that many clubs aren’t playing with their true teams. You’ll notice YJ is entering tournaments as colors not team names because they are moving kids around as needed to fill rosters. I saw a kid on jesters at primetime I know is on their b team. Kids from o Sullivan also played up on Kildare for numbers this fall. There are a lot of kids who can’t attend fall tournaments because they are varsity athletes or have other obligations. If you have an athletic team you probably have multiple sport players who have conflicts.

No one is actually concerned with rankings even our team which is ranked sixth. It’s the fall. Sample sizes, new rosters, kids playing around to for subs etc mess up the fall calculations.

Also went in to look at “blown out of the water” someone referred to earlier by an “unranked team.” If my digging is correct rhe unranked team that killed a team in the top five is YJ Weiner which is far from “unranked” they are top five every year and would destroy the majority of the teams on Long Island.

Good insight into fall sports and how clubs operate in this age group. I looked up the info from the post also but came to a different conclusion…YJ Wiener had crushed that team yet wasn’t ranked yet. Several lower teams had also beaten that team also. 3 losses and one shaky win in 7 games. If this was a preseason ranking it would look much different. Most of the top 50 weren’t represented. I agree it’s Way Too early to be talking about any of this.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Something people aren’t realizing is that many clubs aren’t playing with their true teams. You’ll notice YJ is entering tournaments as colors not team names because they are moving kids around as needed to fill rosters. I saw a kid on jesters at primetime I know is on their b team. Kids from o Sullivan also played up on Kildare for numbers this fall. There are a lot of kids who can’t attend fall tournaments because they are varsity athletes or have other obligations. If you have an athletic team you probably have multiple sport players who have conflicts.

No one is actually concerned with rankings even our team which is ranked sixth. It’s the fall. Sample sizes, new rosters, kids playing around to for subs etc mess up the fall calculations.

Also went in to look at “blown out of the water” someone referred to earlier by an “unranked team.” If my digging is correct rhe unranked team that killed a team in the top five is YJ Weiner which is far from “unranked” they are top five every year and would destroy the majority of the teams on Long Island.

Good insight into fall sports and how clubs operate in this age group. I looked up the info from the post also but came to a different conclusion…YJ Wiener had crushed that team yet wasn’t ranked yet. Several lower teams had also beaten that team also. 3 losses and one shaky win in 7 games. If this was a preseason ranking it would look much different. Most of the top 50 weren’t represented. I agree it’s Way Too early to be talking about any of this.


Teams are different and also are playing with girls not on their team to fill roster gaps. None of it is accurate yet. I’m sure if you asked any teams listed as top ten right now they’d say the same thing. The only people who want to think differently about it all are parents with a superiority complex.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Something people aren’t realizing is that many clubs aren’t playing with their true teams. You’ll notice YJ is entering tournaments as colors not team names because they are moving kids around as needed to fill rosters. I saw a kid on jesters at primetime I know is on their b team. Kids from o Sullivan also played up on Kildare for numbers this fall. There are a lot of kids who can’t attend fall tournaments because they are varsity athletes or have other obligations. If you have an athletic team you probably have multiple sport players who have conflicts.

No one is actually concerned with rankings even our team which is ranked sixth. It’s the fall. Sample sizes, new rosters, kids playing around to for subs etc mess up the fall calculations.

Also went in to look at “blown out of the water” someone referred to earlier by an “unranked team.” If my digging is correct rhe unranked team that killed a team in the top five is YJ Weiner which is far from “unranked” they are top five every year and would destroy the majority of the teams on Long Island.

Good insight into fall sports and how clubs operate in this age group. I looked up the info from the post also but came to a different conclusion…YJ Wiener had crushed that team yet wasn’t ranked yet. Several lower teams had also beaten that team also. 3 losses and one shaky win in 7 games. If this was a preseason ranking it would look much different. Most of the top 50 weren’t represented. I agree it’s Way Too early to be talking about any of this.


Teams are different and also are playing with girls not on their team to fill roster gaps. None of it is accurate yet. I’m sure if you asked any teams listed as top ten right now they’d say the same thing. The only people who want to think differently about it all are parents with a superiority complex.

Give teams a chance to build chemistry with their new rosters. Also take into consideration that having a winning record against terrible teams doesn’t mean anything
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Yes these are usually the top ten and will beat the majority of teams ranked 11+ any day of the week. But that doesn't really matter as recruiting is an individual game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Honestly, nothing could be more meaningless than club team rankings. Going into recruiting year and you are concerned with team rankings? You should be focusing on where your daughter ranks on college coaches rankings. College Coaches recruit players, they do not recruit teams and they certainly don’t care about rankings or records, all they care about is if the player can help their program. Go look at the best college programs and where their 2023 recruits come from.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Something people aren’t realizing is that many clubs aren’t playing with their true teams. You’ll notice YJ is entering tournaments as colors not team names because they are moving kids around as needed to fill rosters. I saw a kid on jesters at primetime I know is on their b team. Kids from o Sullivan also played up on Kildare for numbers this fall. There are a lot of kids who can’t attend fall tournaments because they are varsity athletes or have other obligations. If you have an athletic team you probably have multiple sport players who have conflicts.

No one is actually concerned with rankings even our team which is ranked sixth. It’s the fall. Sample sizes, new rosters, kids playing around to for subs etc mess up the fall calculations.

Also went in to look at “blown out of the water” someone referred to earlier by an “unranked team.” If my digging is correct rhe unranked team that killed a team in the top five is YJ Weiner which is far from “unranked” they are top five every year and would destroy the majority of the teams on Long Island.

Good insight into fall sports and how clubs operate in this age group. I looked up the info from the post also but came to a different conclusion…YJ Wiener had crushed that team yet wasn’t ranked yet. Several lower teams had also beaten that team also. 3 losses and one shaky win in 7 games. If this was a preseason ranking it would look much different. Most of the top 50 weren’t represented. I agree it’s Way Too early to be talking about any of this.


Teams are different and also are playing with girls not on their team to fill roster gaps. None of it is accurate yet. I’m sure if you asked any teams listed as top ten right now they’d say the same thing. The only people who want to think differently about it all are parents with a superiority complex.
YJ Blue roster is Wiener. No changes on the roster.
Rankings draw the coaches to the games. The higher the ranking the more coaches on the sidelines.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Honestly, nothing could be more meaningless than club team rankings. Going into recruiting year and you are concerned with team rankings? You should be focusing on where your daughter ranks on college coaches rankings. College Coaches recruit players, they do not recruit teams and they certainly don’t care about rankings or records, all they care about is if the player can help their program. Go look at the best college programs and where their 2023 recruits come from.

No one really needs your lecture. The person simply asked a question. After all, it's a team sports and it's fun to see how the teams are competing against each other. Not every single person's goal is to play in top teams in college. Sometimes people play because it's a fun game and it builds character.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Honestly, nothing could be more meaningless than club team rankings. Going into recruiting year and you are concerned with team rankings? You should be focusing on where your daughter ranks on college coaches rankings. College Coaches recruit players, they do not recruit teams and they certainly don’t care about rankings or records, all they care about is if the player can help their program. Go look at the best college programs and where their 2023 recruits come from.

No one really needs your lecture. The person simply asked a question. After all, it's a team sports and it's fun to see how the teams are competing against each other. Not every single person's goal is to play in top teams in college. Sometimes people play because it's a fun game and it builds character.

But we need your lecture? Pot meet kettle.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Honestly, nothing could be more meaningless than club team rankings. Going into recruiting year and you are concerned with team rankings? You should be focusing on where your daughter ranks on college coaches rankings. College Coaches recruit players, they do not recruit teams and they certainly don’t care about rankings or records, all they care about is if the player can help their program. Go look at the best college programs and where their 2023 recruits come from.

No one really needs your lecture. The person simply asked a question. After all, it's a team sports and it's fun to see how the teams are competing against each other. Not every single person's goal is to play in top teams in college. Sometimes people play because it's a fun game and it builds character.

But we need your lecture? Pot meet kettle.

That person did not tell other parents what they "should" focus on and what to be concerned with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Ten?

LIYJ
Nems
Hero’s
Monster
CT Griz
Florida Select
M&D Black
SWB
Team 180
Capital

Honestly, nothing could be more meaningless than club team rankings. Going into recruiting year and you are concerned with team rankings? You should be focusing on where your daughter ranks on college coaches rankings. College Coaches recruit players, they do not recruit teams and they certainly don’t care about rankings or records, all they care about is if the player can help their program. Go look at the best college programs and where their 2023 recruits come from.

No one really needs your lecture. The person simply asked a question. After all, it's a team sports and it's fun to see how the teams are competing against each other. Not every single person's goal is to play in top teams in college. Sometimes people play because it's a fun game and it builds character.

But we need your lecture? Pot meet kettle.

That person did not tell other parents what they "should" focus on and what to be concerned with.

Lecturing nonetheless.
You realize these rankings are just starting to populate. It is not remotely complete at the moment. There are usually around 250+ teams ranked and currently there are only around 50. It appears only teams that played in Oct. are populating at the moment. I would not look at this until mid December after all the Nov. tournaments are factored in.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
You realize these rankings are just starting to populate. It is not remotely complete at the moment. There are usually around 250+ teams ranked and currently there are only around 50. It appears only teams that played in Oct. are populating at the moment. I would not look at this until mid December after all the Nov. tournaments are factored in.

You shouldn’t rly look at it ever it doesn’t do anything lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
You realize these rankings are just starting to populate. It is not remotely complete at the moment. There are usually around 250+ teams ranked and currently there are only around 50. It appears only teams that played in Oct. are populating at the moment. I would not look at this until mid December after all the Nov. tournaments are factored in.

You shouldn’t rly look at it ever it doesn’t do anything lol

None of it matters.
It matters when all the coaches are watching the highest ranked teams. If you are playing on that field, you have a better chance of getting noticed. No coaches at the lower ranked games. It was evident last weekend at MidAtlantic.
Presidents Cup schedules are offline again. Surely they can't be making changes this close to the event?
Originally Posted by cltlax
Presidents Cup schedules are offline again. Surely they can't be making changes this close to the event?

Unreal. Sure they can. Club lax is great, if you don't need to work, have only one kid and have tons of money. Mid atlantic hit me with a change while I was traveling there. Had they made the change earlier would have saved me leaving work early and a night in a hotel. With technology today it's pretty easy to tell its going to be pouring more than 10 hours in advance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It matters when all the coaches are watching the highest ranked teams. If you are playing on that field, you have a better chance of getting noticed. No coaches at the lower ranked games. It was evident last weekend at MidAtlantic.

The colleges go to the top bracket games first, they don’t check the usclub rankings to see where teams are ranked. They could care less about that. And most coaches check out teams based on club reputation, not necessarily ability. Also if there is a player on a lower ranked team that they’re interested in they’ll go see them as well. To honestly believe coaches check the rankings before going to tourneys is ridiculous. The clubs place themselves when they register for a tourney, the tourney doesn’t check rankings first before they make brackets/schedule, they’re just concerned with making their money. Typically teams rank themselves in a 1-5 system and most teams rank themselves 3 or 4 as opposed to 5, (5 being the best) and the college coaches can check with the tourney to see what the top bracket is, however they prob already know going into it.
That’s all people talk about are the rankings. Just enjoy it and have fun if you’re lucky enough to be on one of the top teams. As soon as they come out it’s the big buzz! We can debate what’s important and what’s the meaning of all day long.
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It matters when all the coaches are watching the highest ranked teams. If you are playing on that field, you have a better chance of getting noticed. No coaches at the lower ranked games. It was evident last weekend at MidAtlantic.

The colleges go to the top bracket games first, they don’t check the usclub rankings to see where teams are ranked. They could care less about that. And most coaches check out teams based on club reputation, not necessarily ability. Also if there is a player on a lower ranked team that they’re interested in they’ll go see them as well. To honestly believe coaches check the rankings before going to tourneys is ridiculous. The clubs place themselves when they register for a tourney, the tourney doesn’t check rankings first before they make brackets/schedule, they’re just concerned with making their money. Typically teams rank themselves in a 1-5 system and most teams rank themselves 3 or 4 as opposed to 5, (5 being the best) and the college coaches can check with the tourney to see what the top bracket is, however they prob already know going into it.

Coaches will come for good players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Maybe Jesters, LAX On , Liberty ? May they will give a personal tryout? Or, maybe you can Ask to have your daughter go to one of their practices if they are still in need of girls? Good luck!
So many good players. Not so many good teams. The way the system is set up it benefits good players on top teams. Most people figure it out too late! This is when all that sacrifice and hard work pays off. So tough to stay on the top teams throughout a playing career.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That’s all people talk about are the rankings. Just enjoy it and have fun if you’re lucky enough to be on one of the top teams. As soon as they come out it’s the big buzz! We can debate what’s important and what’s the meaning of all day long.

The top of these rankings will never be confused for being a top team. Everyone knows where the best teams are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Whoever posted this is seriously mistaken we are not happy at all the amount of promises broken already is not ok. Nothing about this is better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Speak for yourself. What group chats are you looking at exactly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Where/when did the leadership change? Was the club bought out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many good players. Not so many good teams. The way the system is set up it benefits good players on top teams. Most people figure it out too late! This is when all that sacrifice and hard work pays off. So tough to stay on the top teams throughout a playing career.

If you feel your daughter is a very good player and you will prob know this by 7th grade by comparison to other players. If she’s in top 20%, make sure to try and get her on one of the top A teams by 7th grade (if she’s not already). It will be much harder after that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Maybe Jesters, LAX On , Liberty ? May they will give a personal tryout? Or, maybe you can Ask to have your daughter go to one of their practices if they are still in need of girls? Good luck!

Jesters and Liberty are full try lax on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Where/when did the leadership change? Was the club bought out?

New director and coach for 2024. More organized and focused.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Where/when did the leadership change? Was the club bought out?

New director and coach for 2024. More organized and focused.

New coaches across the programs who are parents mostly . Directors the exact same from last year. The issue IS the directors and management. Maybe focused for younger kids but the older kids who aren't the kid of a coach, owner, or director are getting squat at every turn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many good players. Not so many good teams. The way the system is set up it benefits good players on top teams. Most people figure it out too late! This is when all that sacrifice and hard work pays off. So tough to stay on the top teams throughout a playing career.

If you feel your daughter is a very good player and you will prob know this by 7th grade by comparison to other players. If she’s in top 20%, make sure to try and get her on one of the top A teams by 7th grade (if she’s not already). It will be much harder after that.

Thanks for the advice now that theyre in 9th buddy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t going to be petty and say the current club but considering they don’t care about us why not. Any clubs need 24 players still? Need to get out of this train wreck 91 is.

Not the OP but it’s not the coaches fault it’s the programs fault

91 parents are happy with the change in coaching and leadership. After years of mismanagement, the future looks bright.

Where/when did the leadership change? Was the club bought out?

Leadership didn't change program wasn't bought. They bought bandits out no?
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.
10th not 9th
Easy JS…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s

Leave no one’s stoppin ya but complaining on here doesn’t do squat
Good luck to all LI teams in presidents cup! Represent us well!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s

And not everyone has the same opinion as you. You’ve said your peace an excessive amount of times and now enough about it. If you aren’t happy move on. You are either a parent who is hard to please or more likely a.bitter scorned Ex.
Personally,, I think you are being hyper critical about the one fall event for a sophomore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s

And not everyone has the same opinion as you. You’ve said your peace an excessive amount of times and now enough about it. If you aren’t happy move on. You are either a parent who is hard to please or more likely a.bitter scorned Ex.
Personally,, I think you are being hyper critical about the one fall event for a sophomore.

True Dat!!!
At least one LI 2024 team is heading down to Dallas with an extremely light roster. And playing subpar competition. Not really sure what the point is when the colleges are still focusing on 2023?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s

And not everyone has the same opinion as you. You’ve said your peace an excessive amount of times and now enough about it. If you aren’t happy move on. You are either a parent who is hard to please or more likely a.bitter scorned Ex.
Personally,, I think you are being hyper critical about the one fall event for a sophomore.

True Dat!!!
At least one LI 2024 team is heading down to Dallas with an extremely light roster. And playing subpar competition. Not really sure what the point is when the colleges are still focusing on 2023?

Have you been to a recruiting tournament this fall? My daughter had 15 d1 coaches on her sideline at one point this fall. They are onto the 24s and if you are being told otherwise you are being lied to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the last four years 2024 threads have complained about the same program. Either leave the program or stop complaining about it. I'm tired of hearing the woas of being a part of 91 when you're doing it to yourself. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

so true. If you don't do anything to fix it stop complaining. The only time I've heard anything positive out of this team is a few years ago before the good kids jumped ship to legacy and YJ and last year when they had a new coach. You made your bed by staying until your kids 10th grade year blame yourself not the world.

The complaints don’t seem to coming from the current members. It’s somebody trying to stir it up and make the org and new coaches look bad. They have an impressive lineup of directors and coaches that are doing a great job of fixing the past and moving forward.

That’s why we are only in one fall event and the program hasn’t delivered on any of their claims? I am not happy and have made it very clear to others so not sure your opinions is everyone’s

And not everyone has the same opinion as you. You’ve said your peace an excessive amount of times and now enough about it. If you aren’t happy move on. You are either a parent who is hard to please or more likely a.bitter scorned Ex.
Personally,, I think you are being hyper critical about the one fall event for a sophomore.

True Dat!!!
At least one LI 2024 team is heading down to Dallas with an extremely light roster. And playing subpar competition. Not really sure what the point is when the colleges are still focusing on 2023?

light roster= more playing time= more time for coaches to see you.
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......
Not the poster, but typical games where players are being recruited, the people sitting in the designated coaches area, (typically with seats and roped off) all wearing college logo shirts, jackets, hats and carrying clip boards, pretty easy to spot and pretty easy to count. A few years past recruiting age, but at the height of recruiting, my daughters team, as well as most top teams, would have 30-40+ coaches at the games, especially if it were against another top teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......

I’m a different poster, but I’ve been at some of these fall tournaments and the coaches are pretty obvious. They stick together because they know one another and have clipboards. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who they are.

And yeah, these girls are getting online looks by coaches who are attending these tournaments/showcases.
I wore a college logo hat last week so now i know why the coaches were nice to me.......Next time i am going to wear a sweatshirt and see if i get the same reaction
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......

I’m a different poster, but I’ve been at some of these fall tournaments and the coaches are pretty obvious. They stick together because they know one another and have clipboards. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who they are.

And yeah, these girls are getting online looks by coaches who are attending these tournaments/showcases.

Furthermore, every coach is wearing their school's logo, making it obvious what school they represent.
Originally Posted by Hercules
I wore a college logo hat last week so now i know why the coaches were nice to me.......Next time i am going to wear a sweatshirt and see if i get the same reaction

I was wearing jorts, mesh tank top and work boots. They were nice to me too.
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......

I’m a different poster, but I’ve been at some of these fall tournaments and the coaches are pretty obvious. They stick together because they know one another and have clipboards. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who they are.

And yeah, these girls are getting online looks by coaches who are attending these tournaments/showcases.

Furthermore, every coach is wearing their school's logo, making it obvious what school they represent.

It is very very obvious as people said and the teams in these tournaments have seen those coaches. I’m sure no one wants to give their identity but I’m a legacy parent and tons of coaches at our tour aments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must know alot to be able to tell that 15 people on the sideline were coaches from D1 schools......

I’m a different poster, but I’ve been at some of these fall tournaments and the coaches are pretty obvious. They stick together because they know one another and have clipboards. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who they are.

And yeah, these girls are getting online looks by coaches who are attending these tournaments/showcases.

Furthermore, every coach is wearing their school's logo, making it obvious what school they represent.

It is very very obvious as people said and the teams in these tournaments have seen those coaches. I’m sure no one wants to give their identity but I’m a legacy parent and tons of coaches at our tour aments

YJ also had sidelines filled
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?
You guys act like going to the Presidents Cup is an automatic look at by college coaches......delusional at best........I personally know 2 D1 coaches and they are still more focused on the 2023's. On LI out of the top 50 2023 girls only 30 have committed so far and the 2023 class was one of the strongest in recent years.......Please just let your daughters enjoy the game. THEY are the ones working hard and will eventually land where they are supposed to. Oh and by the way no D1 HEAD COACH is on the sideline of a 2024 game right now....
Originally Posted by cutedog
You guys act like going to the Presidents Cup is an automatic look at by college coaches......delusional at best........I personally know 2 D1 coaches and they are still more focused on the 2023's. On LI out of the top 50 2023 girls only 30 have committed so far and the 2023 class was one of the strongest in recent years.......Please just let your daughters enjoy the game. THEY are the ones working hard and will eventually land where they are supposed to. Oh and by the way no D1 HEAD COACH is on the sideline of a 2024 game right now....

You couldn’t be more wrong. The D1 coaches are absolutely looking at 24s, getting an idea of who they’re interested in. If they get on the radar, they will continue to watch them throughout next summer and then decide who they want. I know of at least 3-4 ‘23s who had great falls last year and then got injured and missed the summer but were still recruited to great programs. I also know girls who didn’t play at all last fall, or didn’t play well, and had strong summers and were recruited. Different paths but same end result.
Yes you made my point.............Its not imperative to be at a tournament like The President's Cup.....Sept 1st is not an end all type of date....some girls will have a great summer season after 11th grade and then commit....just let it happen.....work hard and be proactive but my point was towards these dads who think that you NEED to be at a certain tournament or because you have a YJ sticker on your truck recruitment will automatically happen. The majority of these posters on here truly need to relax. Enjoy this time with your daughter because it will be over before you realize it. Soak it in and let it unfold.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you made my point.............Its not imperative to be at a tournament like The President's Cup.....Sept 1st is not an end all type of date....some girls will have a great summer season after 11th grade and then commit....just let it happen.....work hard and be proactive but my point was towards these dads who think that you NEED to be at a certain tournament or because you have a YJ sticker on your truck recruitment will automatically happen. The majority of these posters on here truly need to relax. Enjoy this time with your daughter because it will be over before you realize it. Soak it in and let it unfold.

Thank you. Good post.
I also think certain clubs or coaches are stirring up the parents and trying to get them upset with their current club so that they bounce.

Plenty of opportunities to be scene coming in the spring, summer and next fall. Enjoy and don’t get caught up in the hype.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you made my point.............Its not imperative to be at a tournament like The President's Cup.....Sept 1st is not an end all type of date....some girls will have a great summer season after 11th grade and then commit....just let it happen.....work hard and be proactive but my point was towards these dads who think that you NEED to be at a certain tournament or because you have a YJ sticker on your truck recruitment will automatically happen. The majority of these posters on here truly need to relax. Enjoy this time with your daughter because it will be over before you realize it. Soak it in and let it unfold.

Thank you. Good post.
I also think certain clubs or coaches are stirring up the parents and trying to get them upset with their current club so that they bounce.

Plenty of opportunities to be scene coming in the spring, summer and next fall. Enjoy and don’t get caught up in the hype.

We’re on a team not in presidents cup and have not spoken to any clubs or coaches. It is ridiculous that we don’t have a strong falll. It isn’t even about presidents cup only, it’s ago it the lack of commitment and focus we are getting from the program and an owner who speaks countless lies to make $$. We have friends on legacy, jesters, top guns, and YJ who have d1 coaches looking at their kids profiles and contacting their coaches and directors about their players. It isn’t getting caught in the hype or being upset about one tournament, it’s about being part of a club that doesn’t value our team and isn’t pushing to help us with recruiting in any way. There is no help with recruiting nor do we have a good fall schedule. Making claims we can go to Boston and NJ and see the same teams as presidents cup this spring is just another lie to keep us somewhere that isn’t looking out for our kids.

Yes it’s great to have fun and I want that for my child, but at the end of the day they have goals that aren’t being properly supported. So again, it isn’t about what any club or coaches or even parents may say about the recruiting process it’s how we feel about our clubs support in this process. We feel lied to and used to keep an older team going when we wanted to leave in august but we promised things that were never going to happen.

I’m sure it’s also our coaches and one parent on our team on here defending the fact that we aren’t in these tournaments. At the end of the day, we want to be in a program that is pushing if or is to be in these tournaments regardless if it’s the end all be all. If it’s a tournament that could even possibly help, it is the job of the people we pay thousands to to make that happen for us.
Constantly complaining about the team you are on is not helping.....move on if you feel grass is greener elsewhere and i mean that with respect......if not then stop complaining
Probably time to leave, you sound fed up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

Could be a little of both. Sometimes clubs have to pay their dues by doing lesser tourneys the season before. Then the tournament companies allow them into the better ones. The team played low level tourneys last year but I guess not the correct ones.
You can’t just get the team into high level tourneys.
Who was the head coach and director who was fired from last year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

Could be a little of both. Sometimes clubs have to pay their dues by doing lesser tourneys the season before. Then the tournament companies allow them into the better ones. The team played low level tourneys last year but I guess not the correct ones.
You can’t just get the team into high level tourneys.
Who was the head coach and director who was fired from last year?


No one fired our head Coach quit because of how the program was handling the merger with the 2024 team. When she left she wrote to us and told us it was because she didn’t feel that what was happening was fair to the girls and that they weren’t being treated how they should at this age. Said she didn’t think how tryouts were handled was fair to the girls and that she couldn’t stay and be “hypocritical” (exact word used) of what she teaches the girls. While I know that it is probably easier to blame her she requested all of our tournaments for summer 2022 in July and screenshotted her requests to us so we knew what her plans were for this year.

It seems like 91 dropped the ball on this one with the merger. We are looking for other teams just not sure who still has room for us
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

Could be a little of both. Sometimes clubs have to pay their dues by doing lesser tourneys the season before. Then the tournament companies allow them into the better ones. The team played low level tourneys last year but I guess not the correct ones.
You can’t just get the team into high level tourneys.
Who was the head coach and director who was fired from last year?

She didn’t get fired and we wish we still had her. Half our team still trains with her. Great person and role model who really stood up for the girls and what she believed in.
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense

Has to be an error I don’t see that being possible
Then leave already. Tilts will take you. No team wants a cancer on it
Think it sounds like it’s time for you to move clubs. I’m sure it will be better for all the girls. No reason to stay on a team that you constantly go on a public forum to bash. You could just be an adult and talk to the appropriate people or just move to another club. Very simple if your daughter is good I’m sure many teams will take her.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then leave already. Tilts will take you. No team wants a cancer on it

I was told jesters rosters were filled so even if she was wanted to I don’t think she can. The real “cancer” is the management of this company ruining these kids experiences. We are stuck in a place we don’t want to be until we find a place that has spots for us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense

Has to be an error I don’t see that being possible

Looks like they won 20-2. Correction made
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

Could be a little of both. Sometimes clubs have to pay their dues by doing lesser tourneys the season before. Then the tournament companies allow them into the better ones. The team played low level tourneys last year but I guess not the correct ones.
You can’t just get the team into high level tourneys.
Who was the head coach and director who was fired from last year?

She didn’t get fired and we wish we still had her. Half our team still trains with her. Great person and role model who really stood up for the girls and what she believed in.

Why does Tilts keep talking about herself in 3rd person?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

Could be a little of both. Sometimes clubs have to pay their dues by doing lesser tourneys the season before. Then the tournament companies allow them into the better ones. The team played low level tourneys last year but I guess not the correct ones.
You can’t just get the team into high level tourneys.
Who was the head coach and director who was fired from last year?

She didn’t get fired and we wish we still had her. Half our team still trains with her. Great person and role model who really stood up for the girls and what she believed in.

Why does Tilts keep talking about herself in 3rd person?

I’m not tilts…but if it makes you feel better to think I am I’ll let you have it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense

Has to be an error I don’t see that being possible

Looks like they won 20-2. Correction made

Was going to say that makes no sense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then leave already. Tilts will take you. No team wants a cancer on it

I was told jesters rosters were filled so even if she was wanted to I don’t think she can. The real “cancer” is the management of this company ruining these kids experiences. We are stuck in a place we don’t want to be until we find a place that has spots for us.



I’m sure someone will take her if she can play. It’s not that hard to move when you have talent. So please leave for your daughter and the other girls on the team who want to stay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense

Has to be an error I don’t see that being possible

Looks like they won 20-2. Correction made

A score like that exhibits horrible sportsmanship, coaches should be embarrassed.
Stop complaining. Make more calls to other teams. The girls that want to stay deserve to play with girls that are dedicated and committed to the team.
By saying that Tilts team is full makes it very obvious what position your daughter plays.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come 91 can’t get into these better tournaments? Or is it they don’t want to?

I think they just were still too focused on the boys side by the time they had to put in for the tournaments. They hired 3 on field directors last year who ran their clinics. I think whoever is in charge of booking tournaments just isn’t being proactive.
Doesn’t say much for the talent in Texas either , most of the scores down here so far have lopsided to say the least. They didn’t do a great job matching teams up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn’t say much for the talent in Texas either , most of the scores down here so far have lopsided to say the least. They didn’t do a great job matching teams up



Yeah and I’m pretty sure all the D1 coaches are not watching games like this. They are watching the best not the teams who claim to be the best but don’t play the actual best teams.
Please stop making the kindergarten comments about a money grabbing kindergarten coach. Stop it now, stop it ... Please.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn’t say much for the talent in Texas either , most of the scores down here so far have lopsided to say the least. They didn’t do a great job matching teams up

Shhh...the "it doesn't matter what teams are ranked" police are watching
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ Kildare lose by 9 to a B team ranked 176 last year. These rankings make no sense

Has to be an error I don’t see that being possible

Looks like they won 20-2. Correction made

A score like that exhibits horrible sportsmanship, coaches should be embarrassed.

Tip guns black won 20-0

Got to love being put in c brackets and running up scores to make yourselves feel better
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By saying that Tilts team is full makes it very obvious what position your daughter plays.

Not really. How would anyone even know that teams specific needs ? And even if it doesn’t make it obvious what she plays I don’t really care
Yes it's obvious what position she plays .....not that hard to figure out
It's a very "specific" position
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By saying that Tilts team is full makes it very obvious what position your daughter plays.

Not really. How would anyone even know that teams specific needs ? And even if it doesn’t make it obvious what she plays I don’t really care

Why are we still talking about this!? Team stinks. And the team they are coming from stinks. One team went all the way to Dallas to play crappy against bad competition and the other sits home and complains about it. Sounds like a double decker $hhh…it show. Stay away from both clubs if you can.
Exactly !!!! Stop complaining and move on !!!
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you made my point.............Its not imperative to be at a tournament like The President's Cup.....Sept 1st is not an end all type of date....some girls will have a great summer season after 11th grade and then commit....just let it happen.....work hard and be proactive but my point was towards these dads who think that you NEED to be at a certain tournament or because you have a YJ sticker on your truck recruitment will automatically happen. The majority of these posters on here truly need to relax. Enjoy this time with your daughter because it will be over before you realize it. Soak it in and let it unfold.

Thank you. Good post.
I also think certain clubs or coaches are stirring up the parents and trying to get them upset with their current club so that they bounce.

Plenty of opportunities to be scene coming in the spring, summer and next fall. Enjoy and don’t get caught up in the hype.

This 100%!!!!
And yes... wonder how many people on here are actually parents of travel players or are they just people stirring the pot.
She was fired. She was replaced by better coaches. This woman takes up way too much time and page space on this forum for a person who has accomplished nothing. She was replaced by coaches that beat her team every single time they played while they had comparable talent and rosters. And when she was replaced she carried on like a child in front of the players trying out.
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.
Calling non stop? That’s pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.


I hope you all move quickly so all the girls can settle in and practice ( learning the plays) with their actual teammates. Complaining isn’t going to do anything but cause drama and waste the time of children who are committed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.


So it sounds like the unhappy parents should move to the jesters and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.


So it sounds like the unhappy parents should move to the jesters and move on.


There is so many lies here trying to defend names and place blame on others to try and change the narrative. We called her and she told us they were filled. We offered to pay her for recruiting help and she said she’d do it for free. She also told us that our team would figure it out and that the summer would be better and even called our daughter to ease her nerves. She was also not fired. We were on the phone with her when she sent her email resigning from the program. If you were at tryouts you also heard her fighting for our kids with the owner and a woman from the office. While we are remaining on 91 and have not sent any sort of negative posts on here we also won’t allow someone from our organization to make up lies about someone who fought tooth and nail for my daughter.

If you are actually on our team , you know that things are not good right now. Coaches even told us to complain to 91 because things are out of their control. Kids are panicking about the fall schedule, there has been zero recruiting help, and the office has no solutions for us. None of this has to do with other organizations or people. The problem lies directly in the hands of our own club and no one on the team is blind to it. It’s why many of us have complained to the club and coaches and why our teamsnap has negative messages in it from our families. Things aren’t good right now, but regardless the girls will make the best of it and find a way to come together like they always had. This group has had one coach leave two years ago, Sam left this past year, and years ago a flood of kids left for YJ and Legacy.

I can understand why others would try and blame other coaches and clubs but this problem isn’t them. It directly stems from the organization. It’s sad that they feel the need to spend time on here blaming others rather then put their efforts into fixing things we are unhappy about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.

I just looked at the scores. It seems they did well minus one game. They lost by 2 to skywalkers, tied a team ranked in the 30s last year, beat a team 15-2, and then had one rough game against NXT.
Someone on here is extremely threatened by this girl. We have friends who train with her who speak very highly. I don’t send my kid to her because she trains elsewhere but from people who have worked with her or know her they have nothing but kind things to say. I’m not sure why every time 91 is brought up even about things happening when she doesn’t coach there anymore they blame her. 91 has been terrible for years. We all know they’re a boys club. I don’t think any club really wants second class kids with very little talent. And to the stunad talking about bandits beating 91 in the pass that isn’t saying much about either team. They both stink. The good ones all left years ago.
For those who claimed no coaches on 2024 sidelines you are not in the right events… rivalry, primetime, mid atlantic, and presidents cup were lined up on the sidelines.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone on here is extremely threatened by this girl. We have friends who train with her who speak very highly. I don’t send my kid to her because she trains elsewhere but from people who have worked with her or know her they have nothing but kind things to say. I’m not sure why every time 91 is brought up even about things happening when she doesn’t coach there anymore they blame her. 91 has been terrible for years. We all know they’re a boys club. I don’t think any club really wants second class kids with very little talent. And to the stunad talking about bandits beating 91 in the pass that isn’t saying much about either team. They both stink. The good ones all left years ago.

Really? Why bother posting? Despicable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone on here is extremely threatened by this girl. We have friends who train with her who speak very highly. I don’t send my kid to her because she trains elsewhere but from people who have worked with her or know her they have nothing but kind things to say. I’m not sure why every time 91 is brought up even about things happening when she doesn’t coach there anymore they blame her. 91 has been terrible for years. We all know they’re a boys club. I don’t think any club really wants second class kids with very little talent. And to the stunad talking about bandits beating 91 in the pass that isn’t saying much about either team. They both stink. The good ones all left years ago.

Wow....who is the Stunad ? Let's go on a public forum and bash the talents of 15 and 16 year old girls. Completely classless
And clueless. The team , if you took the time to really do some DD, you would realize has some very good players on it. Just because they are not on JY or Legacy does not mean they couldn't be.
The teams the Jesters played were ranked as follows at the end of last summer season. 33,66,71,135.... not that tough of a schedule to only win one game against a team ranked 135
Thank you!! Perfectly said. The name on their jersey doesn’t get them into a top d1 school FYI their playing capability does.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.

I just looked at the scores. It seems they did well minus one game. They lost by 2 to skywalkers, tied a team ranked in the 30s last year, beat a team 15-2, and then had one rough game against NXT.

Jesters Lost 9-6 to Skywalker White who was ranked ranked 66 last year.
Jesters Lost 13-4 to NXT who was ranked 111 last year.
Jesters tied Team 91
Jesters beat Seattle Starz, who was ranked 135 last year.
Sounds like a long way to go to play in the C bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.

So true !!! YJ parents and the rest of the "top" programs are really delusional. No head coach was on the sidelines this weekend. I know that conflicts with what your team directors say but they just aren't. Very long way to travel to play teams that bad.
I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.[/quote]

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.[/quote]

They aren’t getting direct contact but they are getting notifications on Beacon that a college coach has viewed their daughter’s profile on iwlca sports recruit.
It's looks as If the most famous coach on all LI & certainly those of her cronies who preach the gospel according to Tilts on this site. Maybe Shouls/must spend A LOT more time coaching than stealing people's hard earned money running half assed training
If your daughter is a good players shows up for practices and is a good teammate there will always be a team willing to take her. You are just making excuses.
Very true.
She's poaching anywone who's willing to listen. Most are not. It's just a shame. I hear she was a good coach sometime way back when . money money money
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you complain about your team just leave. Stop being a whiner and out your daughter in a better position.

I’m pretty sure the majority of the team made calls elsewhere this week. We’d be lucky to have a team by the spring by the looks of it.

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.

I just looked at the scores. It seems they did well minus one game. They lost by 2 to skywalkers, tied a team ranked in the 30s last year, beat a team 15-2, and then had one rough game against NXT.

Jesters Lost 9-6 to Skywalker White who was ranked ranked 66 last year.
Jesters Lost 13-4 to NXT who was ranked 111 last year.
Jesters tied Team 91
Jesters beat Seattle Starz, who was ranked 135 last year.
Sounds like a long way to go to play in the C bracket.

Tough weekend for LI Jesters.
Jesters only win was against Seattle Starz .
Seattle Starz lost to everyone. Reign LC beat Starz 7-4. Reign was ranked 187 and it was their only win of the weekend.
stinks to travel all that way and play bad against low level teams.
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.

They played in the same bracket as Ramos. You obviously aren’t at the tournament or you’d know that there are coaches there.
Ninety one seems to have something to prove against this team and this girl. The only reason she’s posted about on here is because one of you can’t seem to be confident enough to let her be. She left and is doing her own thing. The roster is filled so there is zero chance she can call you to come over when we have no room so relax. We are happy we have her, our gain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.

So true !!! YJ parents and the rest of the "top" programs are really delusional. No head coach was on the sidelines this weekend. I know that conflicts with what your team directors say but they just aren't. Very long way to travel to play teams that bad.

Not true. We had some head coaches of D1 programs on our sidelines this weekend. Most were assistant coaches but there were a couple of head coaches this weekend and the past 2 weekends as well. My daughter plays for a top 20 team and was playing against top 10 teams when this happened.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.

They played in the same bracket as Ramos. You obviously aren’t at the tournament or you’d know that there are coaches there.[/quote


Yeah Ramos's team played some tough competition. Take the time to see where the teams he played were ranked at the end of last season. Everyone on Ramos's team loves bragging about their ranking SO I guess rankings matter. He played one team ranked 77 that he barely beat. The team he beat today was ranked 183. One of the teams wasn't even ranked. Long way to travel to play such horrible teams. Oh the other team he beat was ranked 135. Keep padding that ranking
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Nah, but the jesters 2024 coach is calling us non stop and trying to get us to transfer. Seems like a lateral move at best. The way she is going about it is very unprofessional. Once I saw the scores and who the jesters lost to down in Dallas, I felt better. They got crushed.


I'm grateful my kid was given the opportunity to do this with her teammates. her team is playing light due to other sport commitments and injuries, but my kid is getting looks (I get the alert every time a coach views her profile) and that's why we're there, plus the team is having a good time.

Sorry no D1 schools looking at the C bracket
And it’s too early for contact….Way too early.
Don’t believe the hype or the lies.

They played in the same bracket as Ramos. You obviously aren’t at the tournament or you’d know that there are coaches there.[/quote


Yeah Ramos's team played some tough competition. Take the time to see where the teams he played were ranked at the end of last season. Everyone on Ramos's team loves bragging about their ranking SO I guess rankings matter. He played one team ranked 77 that he barely beat. The team he beat today was ranked 183. One of the teams wasn't even ranked. Long way to travel to play such horrible teams. Oh the other team he beat was ranked 135. Keep padding that ranking

You must be an angry elf.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She was fired. She was replaced by better coaches. This woman takes up way too much time and page space on this forum for a person who has accomplished nothing. She was replaced by coaches that beat her team every single time they played while they had comparable talent and rosters. And when she was replaced she carried on like a child in front of the players trying out.

The 2024 chat exploded once this happened. Tilts has been out to get 91 ever since.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She was fired. She was replaced by better coaches. This woman takes up way too much time and page space on this forum for a person who has accomplished nothing. She was replaced by coaches that beat her team every single time they played while they had comparable talent and rosters. And when she was replaced she carried on like a child in front of the players trying out.

The 2024 chat exploded once this happened. Tilts has been out to get 91 ever since.

Im a 2023 parent on 91 formerly on bandits who reaches out to her regularly for help with recruiting and she offers it without hesitation. She’s never even met my daughter, we just knew her from 91 last year. She’s been nothing but helpful and even when we reached out and she told us she had changed programs she still had nothing but nice things to say. I understand that everyone has their own opinions and experiences but she’s been nothing but helpful to me in keeping my head on straight trying to understanding recruiting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She's poaching anywone who's willing to listen. Most are not. It's just a shame. I hear she was a good coach sometime way back when . money money money

I’m confused here. If someone calls a coach and says they want a spot and they say they do or don’t have one that’s wrong? New kids on Kildare were offered spots before tryouts even happened. Kids move all the time and there is NOTHING wrong with that. If coaches have a spot for kids who may need somewhere else to play I don’t see an issue with that. It’s about our kids enjoying their experience is it not?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.
For someone who doesn’t want to hear about Tilts you awfully love posting about her. Don’t forget this is a women in her mid 20s you’re acting like this about. If grown men spoke to your daughter the way you’re trying to demolish a young womens reputation you’d probably knock some skills around. I hope your daughter never experiences this type of treatment from a man that acts like you. You don’t like her clearly that’s fine. Not everyone has to be buddy buddy but stink it up you’re acting like an infant.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For someone who doesn’t want to hear about Tilts you awfully love posting about her. Don’t forget this is a women in her mid 20s you’re acting like this about. If grown men spoke to your daughter the way you’re trying to demolish a young womens reputation you’d probably knock some skills around. I hope your daughter never experiences this type of treatment from a man that acts like you. You don’t like her clearly that’s fine. Not everyone has to be buddy buddy but stink it up you’re acting like an infant.

This is so accurate. There is always something to gain by bashing others whether it’s kids or coaches. These are young women who are impressionable. Whether it’s a young women coaching or our young daughters we as parents should be better for them. There are very few non parent coaches willing to do a job that pays very little. Maybe we should be trying to lift up young female coaches and players instead of trying to put everyone down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Seems like o Sullivan and jesters had a light roster this weekend very few subs and jesters had a girl from the B team there I believe.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters

Wiener and Legacy played in top brackets. Ramos and Top Guns brackets were pretty much the same and neither were very competitive. Show us some stats that says otherwise. US Club Lacrosse rankings? Past performance?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters

How could that be?
They played teams ranked 187, 33, 135, 71.92 and 66
Those were rankings at the end of the summer
Plenty of time to be seen. Don’t believe the lies or the hype. Enjoy it. Keep it classy BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters

Wiener and Legacy played in top brackets. Ramos and Top Guns brackets were pretty much the same and neither were very competitive. Show us some stats that says otherwise. US Club Lacrosse rankings? Past performance?

Had Ramos played the better teams in their bracket- skywalkers and 91 caorlina- I thnik they would have had a more compeititve weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters

How could that be?
They played teams ranked 187, 33, 135, 71.92 and 66
Those were rankings at the end of the summer
Plenty of time to be seen. Don’t believe the lies or the hype. Enjoy it. Keep it classy BOTC

Teams got seen like crazy at presidents cup...did your team not go? Is that why youre defending this?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Who determines the brackets, the clubs or tourney directors? TG usu plays in tough brackets.

I believe the organizations person responsible for booking tournaments does. Ramos and Jesters were in the second highest bracket with Weiner in the highest and Kildare one below Ramos and Jesters

How could that be?
They played teams ranked 187, 33, 135, 71.92 and 66
Those were rankings at the end of the summer
Plenty of time to be seen. Don’t believe the lies or the hype. Enjoy it. Keep it classy BOTC

Ramos and Jesters played low level competition.
Skywalkers white played in their bracket. It’s their B team(66th ranked)
One team played very well against the lower comp
One team didn’t fair well.
There’s always next time.
Plenty of opportunities to get in front of the colleges.
D1 is focusing on 2023. D1 is not allowed to talk to 2024s until Sept 1 of next year.
YJ Kildare was killing their comp. At Prez cup. How does a 24-1 game benefit either team? Coaches/directors need to do better jobs with making sure teams get in appropriate brackets and plays good competition. This scenario from weekend is not good for showcasing and recruiting! Especially for the goalies. Terrible. BTW, YJ Kildare could possibly be the YJ “B” team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Are you sure TG wasn't in the right bracket the fact they beat a team 20-0? When you lose to good teams and beat bad teams you are considered middle of the road.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Are you sure TG wasn't in the right bracket the fact they beat a team 20-0? When you lose to good teams and beat bad teams you are considered middle of the road.

Would love to see Kildare and Ramos battle it out for the b bracket because they've been placed in a higher bracket than kildare all fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There were approximately anywhere from 10 20 D1 recruiters from from the top colleges the country (Michigan, Stanford, UNC, BC Towson, U Florida, USC and of many others mid & lower level schools on the sidelines during the '24 games. If you question my statement please ask around.!.
And yes, Competition at times was not the best ... While others were very competitive!

Ramos and Jesters were in one of the higher brackets. Top guns black and Kildare played in even lower brackets than Ramos and jesters. Ramos and Jesters played two of the same teams NXT and STARZ. No doubt STARZ was not very good based off the scores Ramos 15-3 jesters 15-2. Ramos played all low teams from the looks of it even reign. Jesters at least snuck two decent teams in and tied a team ranked 33rd. Ramos crushed most teams but one which they barely beat. Top guns played some of the weakest teams they could have. Elevate doesn’t even seem to be elevate anymore losing to the d bracket. YJ O Sullivan played teams I didn’t even know existed. Then you have lax on posting bragging about a 3-0 record today against teams ranked 236, icon proud to win fall lacrosse classic, and teams like 91 empire flg no where to be found. Liberty coming out with only 2 wins against mediocre teams as well even though they seem to be the team no one even talks about anymore. Seems like YJ Weiner is the only team that is doing decent from the island. Everyone else kind of behind the pack, but at least the ones at presidents cup are behind the pack with d1 coaches on their sidelines.

Ramos and Top Guns clearly were placed in brackets lower than they should have, and both dominated, as they should have. Jesters were obviously in the right bracket as they struggled. It's tough to know exactly how good the Top Guns team is. They struggled against M&D Black, Sky Walkers Blue and Capital Blue at Mid-Atlantics. Also tough to know how good Ramos really is since they never play in top brackets. Your analysis left out Legacy, who had a good weekend in a decent bracket. Right now, pecking order looks to be 1. Weiner, 2. Legacy 3(pick em). Top Guns and Ramos

Are you sure TG wasn't in the right bracket the fact they beat a team 20-0? When you lose to good teams and beat bad teams you are considered middle of the road.

Top guns needed to get a goalie from Ohio and bring in a kid whose played up for years to even beat a d team.
Top Guns changed almost their entire team
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Guns changed almost their entire team

And still is doing terribly unless they play d teams
Yellow jackets , steps and a couple others can make their own presidents cup and keep the money for their directors. Md and Nottheast teams won’t see much of each other in the fiuture with the quest to take over the lax world by that group. Always fun seeing the top teams fighting it out. All the brackets were watered down in Texas. Too many blowouts but I know I don’t wanna travel that far and see a team I play every weekend at home.
i though you couldn't play up in this year because of potential recruiting?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.

What's the deal with TG, Empire and Elevate? Of course we all heard the story with 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

which game had 50 top coaches?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.

What's the deal with TG, Empire and Elevate? Of course we all heard the story with 91.

Nothing. Following back awhile, girls left for Jesters. Which happens all the time. Prob a parent stirring the pot here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote)

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

A vey Good point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

which game had 50 top coaches?

50 coaches? At what game?? Didn’t see that at any. Lots of empty chairs. There were some.
Meaning she’s a 24 but she had played with 23 until this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.

What's the deal with TG, Empire and Elevate? Of course we all heard the story with 91.

Nothing. Following back awhile, girls left for Jesters. Which happens all the time. Prob a parent stirring the pot here.

They are referring to girls who left elevate and TG for jesters over the past two years but the kids moving teams were unrelated to the new coach. A large group of kids moved last year from elevate and a few more this year followed. I think the poster was probably referring to the fact that those clubs could be upset their kids moved over to jesters, but kids move all the time so it’s pretty obvious this isn’t any of those teams but rather ninety one.

I think the fact that someone is so invested in spamming this page with negative remarks is pathetic. If you look at the time stamps they’re all being send back to back by a single person. But like another person said a few posts back the fact that you’re going after a girl young enough to be many of your children is just sad. It’s lacrosse it isn’t that serious. If kids want to move clubs they’ll move. If your club isn’t meeting their expectations let them go and be happy elsewhere. It truly isn’t a reason to be this bitter and obsessed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

which game had 50 top coaches?

50 coaches? At what game?? Didn’t see that at any. Lots of empty chairs. There were some.

Most of our games were completely filled with coaches mostly d1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️

A lot of kids from other clubs moved over to jesters over the past 2-3 years from the clubs listed above. Many were before her time at jesters. It’s someone from 91 but we all had already solved that mystery
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️

A lot of kids from other clubs moved over to jesters over the past 2-3 years from the clubs listed above. Many were before her time at jesters. It’s someone from 91 but we all had already solved that mystery



Enough already time to move on. Keep bringing it up isn’t helping. Some people like her others don’t.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️

A lot of kids from other clubs moved over to jesters over the past 2-3 years from the clubs listed above. Many were before her time at jesters. It’s someone from 91 but we all had already solved that mystery

A lot of elevate at Liberty and YJ this year also so by those standards all clubs must detest one another. Players move clubs every year it’s normal
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️

A lot of kids from other clubs moved over to jesters over the past 2-3 years from the clubs listed above. Many were before her time at jesters. It’s someone from 91 but we all had already solved that mystery



Enough already time to move on. Keep bringing it up isn’t helping. Some people like her others don’t.

Just like some people like and dislike other coaches, directors, and owners. It's part of the game but sitting on the internet trying to convince others to take your opinion isn't going to help your case, it just makes you look like you have an obsession or vendetta against her. Put on your big boy pants and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

You are 100% not at these tournaments to keep saying this. If your club wasn’t there stink it up but the parents and teams that were there saw what was up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]hahahahaha She's absolutely on here posing as parents talking about how great she is!!!

I assume you are talking about the Jesters coach Tilts.
Based on what I’ve seen and heard,, she may need professional help. Completely nuts!!!!
Please get help.

You both are pretty sad, actually embarrassing to the rest of us here. Being disgruntled and spiteful is no way to go through life. And if you are a parents, you are acting like a childish fools. If you are a director and/or coaches ....you are even bigger fools. There are only four LI clubs that may have something against Tilts. NinetyOne, TopGuns, Empire and Elevate. That pretty much narrows it down. We know who you all are if Admin. Recommend taking it down a bit, you are potentially damaging your clubs reputations. Even if a parent. Your current rostered girls don’t deserve that. Just let it go. Move on already ...it’s time.[/quote

That's a lot of clubs to have issues with. Could all 4 be wrong

Oh brother 🤦‍♂️

A lot of kids from other clubs moved over to jesters over the past 2-3 years from the clubs listed above. Many were before her time at jesters. It’s someone from 91 but we all had already solved that mystery



Enough already time to move on. Keep bringing it up isn’t helping. Some people like her others don’t.

Couldn’t agree more. The negative poster here needs to reevaluate what’s important to them. And concentrate on the advancement of their own daughter, or own club for that matter. It’s sad that someone has to consistently bash a young coach, who as it seems truly cares about her own girls as well as others not even on the team she coaches. It’s is absolutely time to move on. Nothing whatsoever is being accomplished by this individual, nothing at all. Except maybe making themselves look childish. We are all tired of the constant nonsense. They need to grow up, to say the least.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

2023 is the focus. Don’t believe the lies by those trying to hype their club or services.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

2023 is the focus. Don’t believe the lies by those trying to hype their club or services.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is a parent on icon, empire, 91, flg, or laxon who did not get a spot in presidents cup
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

2023 is the focus. Don’t believe the lies by those trying to hype their club or services.


100% correct
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

2023 is the focus. Don’t believe the lies by those trying to hype their club or services.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is a parent on icon, empire, 91, flg, or laxon who did not get a spot in presidents cup

The truth is that college coaches are currently looking at both the 2023s and 2024s.... The Schools that are done or close to being done will probably be a little more focused on the 24s going forward and the schools that have more spots to fill in the 23 class will obviously be trying to fill their spots.

Just like Santa, the coaches will be making their list and checking it twice for the 2024's.... Players and parents should be making their list as well.... If your daughter is not one of the top 20 or so players on the Island it is very important that your daughter makes the coaches at the schools that she is most like to attend know of her sincere interest. The coaches will pursue the top players but the majority of players will need to do more outreach.

Best of luck to all, enjoy the ride and for Pete's sake stop with the bashing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.
This is simply incorrect. College coaches aren't even close to being done with 2023s.

2023 is the focus. Don’t believe the lies by those trying to hype their club or services.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say this is a parent on icon, empire, 91, flg, or laxon who did not get a spot in presidents cup

The truth is that college coaches are currently looking at both the 2023s and 2024s.... The Schools that are done or close to being done will probably be a little more focused on the 24s going forward and the schools that have more spots to fill in the 23 class will obviously be trying to fill their spots.

Just like Santa, the coaches will be making their list and checking it twice for the 2024's.... Players and parents should be making their list as well.... If your daughter is not one of the top 20 or so players on the Island it is very important that your daughter makes the coaches at the schools that she is most like to attend know of her sincere interest. The coaches will pursue the top players but the majority of players will need to do more outreach.

Best of luck to all, enjoy the ride and for Pete's sake stop with the bashing.


Best post in a long while
Good post !! Well said
The truth most school are still very much focused on the 23’s and maybe even a few late 22’s .nobody is disputing anyones claim that college coaches are on the sidelines looking watching the games . The fact is they are still actively trying to lock up 23’s on the fence and hold out 22’s. Once the spring HS season starts and your summer club season , you will see much more activity on the sidelines. Don’t be fooled either most of the coaches on the 24 sidelines this past weekend were D2 and D3. Everyone relax nobody is offering your kid a scholarship for Christmas. Relax and enjoy the ride
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The truth most school are still very much focused on the 23’s and maybe even a few late 22’s .nobody is disputing anyones claim that college coaches are on the sidelines looking watching the games . The fact is they are still actively trying to lock up 23’s on the fence and hold out 22’s. Once the spring HS season starts and your summer club season , you will see much more activity on the sidelines. Don’t be fooled either most of the coaches on the 24 sidelines this past weekend were D2 and D3. Everyone relax nobody is offering your kid a scholarship for Christmas. Relax and enjoy the ride

Thank you. .
What you are saying is what we have been told by those having gone through this before. Seems like a lot of fake info on here lately by those trying to generate income $$$.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The truth most school are still very much focused on the 23’s and maybe even a few late 22’s .nobody is disputing anyones claim that college coaches are on the sidelines looking watching the games . The fact is they are still actively trying to lock up 23’s on the fence and hold out 22’s. Once the spring HS season starts and your summer club season , you will see much more activity on the sidelines. Don’t be fooled either most of the coaches on the 24 sidelines this past weekend were D2 and D3. Everyone relax nobody is offering your kid a scholarship for Christmas. Relax and enjoy the ride

Thank you. .
What you are saying is what we have been told by those having gone through this before. Seems like a lot of fake info on here lately by those trying to generate income $$$.

No one can make more money by stating coaches are watching 24s- this fall we had Syracuse, BU, BC, Towson, Binghamtom, Ohio State, JMU, Rutgers, New Paltz, Harvard, Brown, Lafayette, UNC, USC, Villanova, Vanderbilt, Bucknell, Loyola, Georgetown, Standford, Cornell, Columbia, UConn, Catholic and more watching our daughters team play. I cannot make any money telling you that info. Top D1 schools already have their 23s done, so they will start on the 24s so that come this summer they have a list of kids they want to see more and teams that impressed. I cannot make any money off of this nor can I gain anything I am meerly sharing our experiences this fall. It feels like some others are blwoing up this page saying 24s arent looked at while players and families on teams that were in good tournaments know for a fact that this just isn't the truth. Will missing this fall completely kill your chance at being recruited? No. Good players will still be seen regardless if they are on a good team.
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .
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The truth most school are still very much focused on the 23’s and maybe even a few late 22’s .nobody is disputing anyones claim that college coaches are on the sidelines looking watching the games . The fact is they are still actively trying to lock up 23’s on the fence and hold out 22’s. Once the spring HS season starts and your summer club season , you will see much more activity on the sidelines. Don’t be fooled either most of the coaches on the 24 sidelines this past weekend were D2 and D3. Everyone relax nobody is offering your kid a scholarship for Christmas. Relax and enjoy the ride

Thank you. .
What you are saying is what we have been told by those having gone through this before. Seems like a lot of fake info on here lately by those trying to generate income $$$.

No one can make more money by stating coaches are watching 24s- this fall we had Syracuse, BU, BC, Towson, Binghamtom, Ohio State, JMU, Rutgers, New Paltz, Harvard, Brown, Lafayette, UNC, USC, Villanova, Vanderbilt, Bucknell, Loyola, Georgetown, Standford, Cornell, Columbia, UConn, Catholic and more watching our daughters team play. I cannot make any money telling you that info. Top D1 schools already have their 23s done, so they will start on the 24s so that come this summer they have a list of kids they want to see more and teams that impressed. I cannot make any money off of this nor can I gain anything I am meerly sharing our experiences this fall. It feels like some others are blwoing up this page saying 24s arent looked at while players and families on teams that were in good tournaments know for a fact that this just isn't the truth. Will missing this fall completely kill your chance at being recruited? No. Good players will still be seen regardless if they are on a good team.


What team is your daughter on ? Also well said. The 2024's have plenty of time even if they were at presidents Cup AND didnt get looked at.
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Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.
Yes- I thi
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

Thanks for the insight.
Tough reading through some of the other posts that are BS and appear to have an ulterior motive.
I was in Dallas and enjoyed our time but it wasn’t even close to being a game changer. A good amount of girls chose not to go. Seems like A lot of hype over nothing and maybe that money could have been used somewhere else? It’s extremely stressful already and to have to muddle through all the Fake news that is posted by only a few.
It’s all fake news , unless you have gone through this process with another child. People want you to think you have to play on a certain club or attend certain tournament showcases . You can play on a mediocre club and be a stud and play D-1. You can play on a so called top club and beat everyone 20-0 and you might be a D-3 player. Relax it will workout for everyone. No need to bash clubs, coaches or players and parents. If your daughter is a good player she will find a college that fits.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.
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It’s all fake news , unless you have gone through this process with another child. People want you to think you have to play on a certain club or attend certain tournament showcases . You can play on a mediocre club and be a stud and play D-1. You can play on a so called top club and beat everyone 20-0 and you might be a D-3 player. Relax it will workout for everyone. No need to bash clubs, coaches or players and parents. If your daughter is a good player she will find a college that fits.

Exactly!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

Same person again trying to take down the fact that these events put kids ahead. I coached on the boys side for years and now coach on the girls side for my oldest and now my younger. This fall is 100% important
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

That is horrible advice unless your kid is one of the Unicorns/Top 25 players. Everyone else has to do a lot of work to get recruited.
We are guessing you weren't there? Ask around before you make foolish comments about what coaches were there & not there. Again, ask around about the top tier coaches that were there.
You can return from your research and share your new found knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

Please define/name Top Schools. Also, did the schools make offers? Not trying to be a J$&#, just trying to put gain some perspective.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

That is horrible advice unless your kid is one of the Unicorns/Top 25 players. Everyone else has to do a lot of work to get recruited.

Work smarter not harder. Stop running to every event and just focus on doing the little things well. If your girl is a talented and smart player, the coaches will come. Stop being a sheep. Lots of good players were recruited to top school coaches despite missing months due to injuries.
This coming from the same guy who apparently thinks because he saw A guy with a UNC visor his kid was getting recruited. Please share all of your wisdom as well . Relax guy , nobody is even thinking about your kid unless she’s a top ranked player on one of the dozen so called recruiting platforms ,which as everyone knows is manipulated by certain clubs and directors. Clearly you have not been through this process. Money grab showcases charging $2000 and upwards a team, then the college coaches get paid to attend . I’m sure you can see what’s happening with all your great wisdom . Now you can share all your new found knowledge!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

Please define/name Top Schools. Also, did the schools make offers? Not trying to be a J$&#, just trying to put gain some perspective.

Yes, 5 official visits, and 4 offers. All top 15 schools. These are some schools that recruited girls who barely played over the past year due to injuries: Maryland, UNC, Syracuse, Stanford, Northwestern, Yale. Probably more, those are the ones I'm aware of.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

I think it's more than a peak our daughters sports recruits blew up after this weekend. Playing in these events this fall definitely gave us a one up on some other programs that did not. It's facts. Anything else said is to try and make parents of teams who didnt attend feel better.

That's great and now you'll get an email from many programs asking you to fill out a questionare. Then you'll get an email "inviting" your daughter to attend a camp or showcase. All very nice but pretty much meaningless at this point. I'm not trying to bash or cause issues, it's my 3rd go around so just trying to shed some light on how it works.

True. And you don’t have to do any of it. My ‘23 daughter missed last fall and part of the summer and was still recruited by several top schools that other people told us don’t recruit unless you attend their camp.

That is horrible advice unless your kid is one of the Unicorns/Top 25 players. Everyone else has to do a lot of work to get recruited.


This.. Reality is that any exposure in front of targeted schools is a good thing. Different schools have different approaches, but attending these events (as long as you tell coaches in advance that you are attending).

Most programs start making lists fall of freshman year based on a combination of things based on 1) emails from athletes 2) club coach recommendations, 3) performance at camps 4) performance on the field 5) history with other girls at same club 6) ability for athlete to get admitted.


Can you be recruited if you don't attend some of these showcases or recruiting events? Yes. Will a good performance improve your chances? Yes.

Any good club recruiting director will tell kids in their freshman year to develop a list of 15-20 target schools based on talent levels, Kids should be reaching out to them and working to attend tourneys/showcases/camps which they will attend.
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It’s all fake news , unless you have gone through this process with another child. People want you to think you have to play on a certain club or attend certain tournament showcases . You can play on a mediocre club and be a stud and play D-1. You can play on a so called top club and beat everyone 20-0 and you might be a D-3 player. Relax it will workout for everyone. No need to bash clubs, coaches or players and parents. If your daughter is a good player she will find a college that fits.

Exactly!

Agreed. From my experience, the girls from good clubs who don't get recruited have one of two challenges.

1) Targeting schools at too high of a level for their talent, athleticism and physical talents (height/speed)
2) Not having the grades to be admitted to their target schools.
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This coming from the same guy who apparently thinks because he saw A guy with a UNC visor his kid was getting recruited. Please share all of your wisdom as well . Relax guy , nobody is even thinking about your kid unless she’s a top ranked player on one of the dozen so called recruiting platforms ,which as everyone knows is manipulated by certain clubs and directors. Clearly you have not been through this process. Money grab showcases charging $2000 and upwards a team, then the college coaches get paid to attend . I’m sure you can see what’s happening with all your great wisdom . Now you can share all your new found knowledge!

A coach with head to toe UNC gear on and a clipboard sitting in the coaches chairs taking notes is totally a guy in a visor
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.
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Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.

Doesn’t seem like the tournament entered the scores
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Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Porch?
Money grab !!! That doesn’t help anyones club at all
Donna Martin Graduates!!!

“Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.[/quote]”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.

Not right but it happens
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.

Not right but it happens

That’s not an acceptable answer. It’s a purposeful manipulation that should be addressed by following all channels and avenues to rectify. Scores were posted during, and post showcase. Now fully deleted. Unprofessional, unethical.
Period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.

Not right but it happens

That’s not an acceptable answer. It’s a purposeful manipulation that should be addressed by following all channels and avenues to rectify. Scores were posted during, and post showcase. Now fully deleted. Unprofessional, unethical.
Period.

For most divisions, scores were never posted - not during or after. I was told that this tournament in particular never keeps or posts official scores (think last year may have been exception having to do with people not being allowed to be present due to COVID). But if that's true, clubs would have signed up knowing this and so there is no grounds for "rectification and refund"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Unbelievable. Just found out that no scores from Pime Time count towards US Lacrosse rankings for any team that attended. Across all age groups. Wrong on so many levels. Can’t just delete scores b/c the hosting clubs teams supposedly did poorly. All of the clubs directors that attended should demand rectification and a refund if not adjusted accordingly.

Not right but it happens

That’s not an acceptable answer. It’s a purposeful manipulation that should be addressed by following all channels and avenues to rectify. Scores were posted during, and post showcase. Now fully deleted. Unprofessional, unethical.
Period.

For most divisions, scores were never posted - not during or after. I was told that this tournament in particular never keeps or posts official scores (think last year may have been exception having to do with people not being allowed to be present due to COVID). But if that's true, clubs would have signed up knowing this and so there is no grounds for "rectification and refund"

The 2024 division in particular did not have any official scores posted this year. Nothing was deleted.
Funny ...At minimum, I saw the first two games per team posted. I have screenshot but can’t post here. You must be one of those who ran the show in MD. Unacceptable to say the least. Post the scores
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Funny ...At minimum, I saw the first two games per team posted. I have screenshot but can’t post here. You must be one of those who ran the show in MD. Unacceptable to say the least. Post the scores

Sorry your kid's USCL fall ranking was messed up, but really, it's going to be okay.
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Funny ...At minimum, I saw the first two games per team posted. I have screenshot but can’t post here. You must be one of those who ran the show in MD. Unacceptable to say the least. Post the scores

They started posting scores for the first game (not all teams), but then stopped. I never saw scores posted for our 2nd or 3rd games, nor the other teams I was following.
So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island
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So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

Who is in front of them?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny ...At minimum, I saw the first two games per team posted. I have screenshot but can’t post here. You must be one of those who ran the show in MD. Unacceptable to say the least. Post the scores

Sorry your kid's USCL fall ranking was messed up, but really, it's going to be okay.

Spoken like a true grifter. Just blowing it off, hoping it will all just go away. How about simply doing what’s right. Take_aWay what you may.
Not exactly to do with this chain but I saw legacy 24 play in 2 different games on Saturday as I was filming before/after other games and although I saw a ton of cross checks and yellow cards, this post goes out to the parents and the coach. I haven’t heard that much complaining, yelling at the ref, yelling at the opposing girls, etc… in some time.
Point of unsolicited advice for parents of legacy, this is the year that wins don’t matter at all. Your daughter won’t get recruited differently if they lose, tie, or win if they are already on competitive teams. All of that complaining is only going to drive college coaches away faster than the team earns yellow cards
I got to see 2 different halves of legacy games while helping a friend in Dallas tape some footage and the girls looked good but way to aggressive hence the multiple yellow cards each game. My comments aren’t about the girls though, they are about the parents and the coach who embarrassed themselves in front of the college coaches that were there. I was filming near the coaches and every time I heard a parent or the hc yell out to the ref, the opposing girls, or just some rant about another yellow card the coaches took a note.
Please remember that this is a recruiting year, so keep your mouths shut and support the girls in a positive way
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Not exactly to do with this chain but I saw legacy 24 play in 2 different games on Saturday as I was filming before/after other games and although I saw a ton of cross checks and yellow cards, this post goes out to the parents and the coach. I haven’t heard that much complaining, yelling at the ref, yelling at the opposing girls, etc… in some time.
Point of unsolicited advice for parents of legacy, this is the year that wins don’t matter at all. Your daughter won’t get recruited differently if they lose, tie, or win if they are already on competitive teams. All of that complaining is only going to drive college coaches away faster than the team earns yellow cards

Well said, accurate too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not exactly to do with this chain but I saw legacy 24 play in 2 different games on Saturday as I was filming before/after other games and although I saw a ton of cross checks and yellow cards, this post goes out to the parents and the coach. I haven’t heard that much complaining, yelling at the ref, yelling at the opposing girls, etc… in some time.
Point of unsolicited advice for parents of legacy, this is the year that wins don’t matter at all. Your daughter won’t get recruited differently if they lose, tie, or win if they are already on competitive teams. All of that complaining is only going to drive college coaches away faster than the team earns yellow cards

Well said, accurate too.

He’s always been a nut job his kids are good though so they should be ok
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So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

The rankings still aren’t accurate still too little of a data pool
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

Rankings mean nothing, it’s recruiting time and the college coaches recruit from all over… pound your chest all you want about meaningless rankings then watch when the college coaches from the best college programs take players from all over the country many of who play for lower ranked teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

Rankings mean nothing, it’s recruiting time and the college coaches recruit from all over… pound your chest all you want about meaningless rankings then watch when the college coaches from the best college programs take players from all over the country many of who play for lower ranked teams.

Someone seems mad that their YJ team was ranked below Legacy. You need to calm down. We all know the best girls go to the best programs. Facts are that Legacy has more top players than YJ B and C teams. Just keep in mind that your daughter wasn’t good enough to make the YJ A team who is ranked 4th in the country. Perspective
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

Rankings mean nothing, it’s recruiting time and the college coaches recruit from all over… pound your chest all you want about meaningless rankings then watch when the college coaches from the best college programs take players from all over the country many of who play for lower ranked teams.

Someone seems mad that their YJ team was ranked below Legacy. You need to calm down. We all know the best girls go to the best programs. Facts are that Legacy has more top players than YJ B and C teams. Just keep in mind that your daughter wasn’t good enough to make the YJ A team who is ranked 4th in the country. Perspective

Legacy is not good. And 7 yellow cards vs Heros in Dallas. Coaches won’t like that.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So it looks like Legacy is the second ranked team on LI. YJ Wiener is # 4 overall, best from Long Island

The rankings still aren’t accurate still too little of a data pool

Some ranking will be used to get invites for this years elite 8 tourney on sept 1. Right now I see monster at 9. That can’t stay. They are a top 5 team. Steps plays nobody at any tournament and is ranked ahead. Don’t see NEMS in the top brackets either.
Yj weiner
Monster
M&D
Heros
Fla Select
Team 180
Ct Grizzlies
Are top 7 and not in that order. 8th spot should be up for grabs and not sure who deserves it.
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Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.



there are def some that are not committing anymore...but its not over
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.



Some schools may be done or close to being done with 23’s some are still looking to fill their 23 class. Most will also wait until after upcoming college season ends to see who enters the transfer portal before closing out the class. There are definitely spots available and we will also see some players change their commitment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.


Also remember, schools will always look for top quality girls who aren't looking for $$
I disagree with the if you’re good you’ll be found statement. If you’re not out into a situation where coaches will see you they won’t know who you are. That’s why you see girls flocking to teams with a grade above them that does well with recruiting and why teams like YJ are going strong for so many years. A clubs reputation gets them into better events, they have more rapport with coaches, and coaches are more likely to see them play
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I disagree with the if you’re good you’ll be found statement. If you’re not out into a situation where coaches will see you they won’t know who you are. That’s why you see girls flocking to teams with a grade above them that does well with recruiting and why teams like YJ are going strong for so many years. A clubs reputation gets them into better events, they have more rapport with coaches, and coaches are more likely to see them play

Actually top teams like YJ, recruit about 5-6 girls to the most coveted schools. The rest may get recruited, but there is a big drop off. If your daughter does not start and contribute significantly, she is not in that top 5.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good D1 is done with 23 and laser focused on 24. 50 of the top coaches at one game at pres cup. Monster and capital had a large group too.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.

—- “Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.” —-

So typical, why post this? There are many DI programs still trying to fill their class as well as all DII & DIII programs.

Of course the majority of the strongest players are committed and as far as programs being out of money well, there is very little money to begin with.

Your post was transparent.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I disagree with the if you’re good you’ll be found statement. If you’re not out into a situation where coaches will see you they won’t know who you are. That’s why you see girls flocking to teams with a grade above them that does well with recruiting and why teams like YJ are going strong for so many years. A clubs reputation gets them into better events, they have more rapport with coaches, and coaches are more likely to see them play

Actually top teams like YJ, recruit about 5-6 girls to the most coveted schools. The rest may get recruited, but there is a big drop off. If your daughter does not start and contribute significantly, she is not in that top 5.


yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I disagree with the if you’re good you’ll be found statement. If you’re not out into a situation where coaches will see you they won’t know who you are. That’s why you see girls flocking to teams with a grade above them that does well with recruiting and why teams like YJ are going strong for so many years. A clubs reputation gets them into better events, they have more rapport with coaches, and coaches are more likely to see them play

Actually top teams like YJ, recruit about 5-6 girls to the most coveted schools. The rest may get recruited, but there is a big drop off. If your daughter does not start and contribute significantly, she is not in that top 5.


yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program

Kids on YJ Ramos will also get good looks. Other than that, I'd head to an A team at legacy, jesters, or TG if you can make it. They have credibility with recruiting.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know what’s going on with Prime Time, MD scores? They aren’t posted on Tourney Machine anymore. For any team.


Cause Porch’s tournies are pure money grab and she doesn’t hire table help. Also the fields are laid out wrong. No space in the middle. Wish there was an alternative.

Prime Time scores posted yet??
yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program[/quote]

NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop
This is so untrue. Yes those kids will g wet looked at but if you aren’t on any of those teams you 100% can still be recruited to a top school. They don’t just need a YJ player FYI.
President's Cup and Thanksgiving took a toll on my energy level, but all things considered it was a good week. Anyone know where it will be next year? Hopefully, not California (long haul), and back on the East Coast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program

NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop[/quote]

Sound advice.

There are a very limited number of players who will attract the attention of the coaches at the Top 10 - 20 college programs. These are the players that don’t have to market themselves, the coaches watch the players play and the proactively reach out to the player. For most , the player I needs to be proactive in
Marketing themselves to college coaches. Do not believe the mantra “if you are good the college coaches will find you”. That may be true for the elite athletes but not for the majority of players.

- Identify target schools
- develop a plan to market yourself to coaches
- Identify influencers / trusted advisors.. people who can reach out to college coaches… Club Coach, Club Director, HS Coach, current players / former players at the school that you / your daughter might know etc… who are willing to reach out and put in a good word / ask the coaches to take a look.
- Be persistent (don’t be a pest) things change, coaches do not get all of the players that they want, they are consistently revising their list and prioritizing players.
- if your daughter receives interest from programs that she is not interested in look for similar caliber programs at schools she might be interested in. For the most part, birds of a feather… for the most part the recruiting process will tell you what level the player is most likely at.
- Coaches want players who want to go to their school and play for their program.
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like one coach really needs it to be a big deal that her club went to Dallas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.

Oh boy here we go again. Your grudge is so transparent and ridiculous. There are dozens of posts on here about coaches being on sidelines in Dallas. It isn’t just one team it’s all of the teams that attended grow up
There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend[/quote]

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?[/quote]

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall[/quote]

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.[/quote]

Can y'all just stop with the coach bashing? It's getting OLD.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon
There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend[/quote]

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?[/quote]

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon[/quote]

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon[/quote]

No need to call anyone names, but if you go to the IWLCA instagram they state that they had "over 600 coaches". Whatever the final number was, there were a ton of coaches at Presidents Cup. There is no denying that.
Everybody knows that it's a money nothing new there. Nothing to with my kid or your kid. Just stating that whoever said there no coaches there he/she was definitely not there. Now you can both see the light.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon


Nope. Just a hater. If you went you would have seen the coaches on your daughters sideline. If you weren’t there it doesn’t matter then.
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Much like the other posters stated who have gone through this process , nobody is disputing that college coaches were not on the sidelines. Unfortunately they most likely were not paying much if any attention. You do realize these coaches get paid by the event to attend these showcase tournament right ? Top 25 programs get paid upwards of $5,000 to show up. It’s not always what it appears .

Bingo! Think logically people. We're 10 months out from 9/22. Many kids are unable to attend the majority of Fall tournaments due to other sports. These kids have a year to develop, an entire Spring season to play, and then summer tournament season. That's a lot of time and lacrosse long before the process of contact begins. Are Coaches taking a peak? Sure, but I wouldn't say it's anything more than that.

Thank you for the clarity.
Not sure why some people on here keep pushing the importance of something that has already happened.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon

It does mean they went? They sign up and that’s how they get added to the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.

Oh boy here we go again. Your grudge is so transparent and ridiculous. There are dozens of posts on here about coaches being on sidelines in Dallas. It isn’t just one team it’s all of the teams that attended grow up

No grudge and no names. Just stating the obvious.
You are arguing about anything and everything to keep the event in the limelight.
Ok- we get it, you went and love yourself but can we move on? It’s one stop in a very long road.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program

NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop

Sound advice.

There are a very limited number of players who will attract the attention of the coaches at the Top 10 - 20 college programs. These are the players that don’t have to market themselves, the coaches watch the players play and the proactively reach out to the player. For most , the player I needs to be proactive in
Marketing themselves to college coaches. Do not believe the mantra “if you are good the college coaches will find you”. That may be true for the elite athletes but not for the majority of players.

- Identify target schools
- develop a plan to market yourself to coaches
- Identify influencers / trusted advisors.. people who can reach out to college coaches… Club Coach, Club Director, HS Coach, current players / former players at the school that you / your daughter might know etc… who are willing to reach out and put in a good word / ask the coaches to take a look.
- Be persistent (don’t be a pest) things change, coaches do not get all of the players that they want, they are consistently revising their list and prioritizing players.
- if your daughter receives interest from programs that she is not interested in look for similar caliber programs at schools she might be interested in. For the most part, birds of a feather… for the most part the recruiting process will tell you what level the player is most likely at.
- Coaches want players who want to go to their school and play for their program.[/quote]

I think most of this is helpful. Keep it classy BOTC.
I’ve posted 2-3 times on this topic and I’m not a coach, but a parent of a 24 who attended. It seems like people who didn’t attend are trying to use others as a scapegoat for their program messing this one up. That’s no one’s fault other than the club owners and office staff. The few clubs that didn’t attend can’t blame other coaches, parents, or the iwcla for this. It isn’t about loving ourselves for attending. The question on if the event had coaches on 24 sidelines was presented as well as if it was a good event for players to be seen. The simple answer is yes. Over 600 coaches lined on 23 AND 24 sidelines definitely helps the kids who attended. No one is bad mouthing your team for NOT attending. You need to get over yourself and stop blaming others for the shortcomings.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve posted 2-3 times on this topic and I’m not a coach, but a parent of a 24 who attended. It seems like people who didn’t attend are trying to use others as a scapegoat for their program messing this one up. That’s no one’s fault other than the club owners and office staff. The few clubs that didn’t attend can’t blame other coaches, parents, or the iwcla for this. It isn’t about loving ourselves for attending. The question on if the event had coaches on 24 sidelines was presented as well as if it was a good event for players to be seen. The simple answer is yes. Over 600 coaches lined on 23 AND 24 sidelines definitely helps the kids who attended. No one is bad mouthing your team for NOT attending. You need to get over yourself and stop blaming others for the shortcomings.

^ true: there is no discussion is there were a lot of coaches there. It’s a fact. Also a fact that teams that went got something out of it. Now comes the winter, spring, and summer. If you thought parents were crazy now just wait. Buckle up y’all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve posted 2-3 times on this topic and I’m not a coach, but a parent of a 24 who attended. It seems like people who didn’t attend are trying to use others as a scapegoat for their program messing this one up. That’s no one’s fault other than the club owners and office staff. The few clubs that didn’t attend can’t blame other coaches, parents, or the iwcla for this. It isn’t about loving ourselves for attending. The question on if the event had coaches on 24 sidelines was presented as well as if it was a good event for players to be seen. The simple answer is yes. Over 600 coaches lined on 23 AND 24 sidelines definitely helps the kids who attended. No one is bad mouthing your team for NOT attending. You need to get over yourself and stop blaming others for the shortcomings.

Parent or not?
Not sure why you are taking this event so personal and needing to sell us all on how great it was or wasn’t. Unless of course you have something to gain in $$$ or status?
but you are beating a dead horse at this point.
We got your point many days ago and now you are arguing over the number of coaches, the impact of these coaches, then how to tell how many coaches and then circling back to arguing some more. Maybe you should find a new hobby or marketing strategy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve posted 2-3 times on this topic and I’m not a coach, but a parent of a 24 who attended. It seems like people who didn’t attend are trying to use others as a scapegoat for their program messing this one up. That’s no one’s fault other than the club owners and office staff. The few clubs that didn’t attend can’t blame other coaches, parents, or the iwcla for this. It isn’t about loving ourselves for attending. The question on if the event had coaches on 24 sidelines was presented as well as if it was a good event for players to be seen. The simple answer is yes. Over 600 coaches lined on 23 AND 24 sidelines definitely helps the kids who attended. No one is bad mouthing your team for NOT attending. You need to get over yourself and stop blaming others for the shortcomings.

Parent or not?
Not sure why you are taking this event so personal and needing to sell us all on how great it was or wasn’t. Unless of course you have something to gain in $$$ or status?
but you are beating a dead horse at this point.
We got your point many days ago and now you are arguing over the number of coaches, the impact of these coaches, then how to tell how many coaches and then circling back to arguing some more. Maybe you should find a new hobby or marketing strategy.

With all respect some of us check this and reply days after an original post.
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Have your daughter be proactive and email coaches at the schools she is interested in. Send them a link to her web page. Send a link to her highlight video. Ask when they are having any prospect days/camps. Send them a list of her upcoming game schedule and which showcases she will be at. Get on their email list. These are the best ways to have coaches get to know you. Get in front of them at Prospect days. The chances of getting a "good" look at a game they are there to watch is very difficult.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Have your daughter be proactive and email coaches at the schools she is interested in. Send them a link to her web page. Send a link to her highlight video. Ask when they are having any prospect days/camps. Send them a list of her upcoming game schedule and which showcases she will be at. Get on their email list. These are the best ways to have coaches get to know you. Get in front of them at Prospect days. The chances of getting a "good" look at a game they are there to watch is very difficult.

This advice is what our team has been giving us, not much help otherwise.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Have your daughter be proactive and email coaches at the schools she is interested in. Send them a link to her web page. Send a link to her highlight video. Ask when they are having any prospect days/camps. Send them a list of her upcoming game schedule and which showcases she will be at. Get on their email list. These are the best ways to have coaches get to know you. Get in front of them at Prospect days. The chances of getting a "good" look at a game they are there to watch is very difficult.

This advice is what our team has been giving us, not much help otherwise.

Great minds think alike
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

Your club is on top of it. That's impressive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

Your club is on top of it. That's impressive.

What club?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.


What club are you with
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.

Right now they’re really pushing us to get seen through tournaments and other opportunities. They also are hosting clinics with college coaches to get extra looks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.


What club are you with

Going to keep that to myself I apologize just don’t want the which clubs better to start up
What club are you with ????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I'm sure it will become a big controversy as everything is on here but we are with jesters. The entire staff is extremely helpful and the recruiting director and coaches are working well together to support us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.


What club are you with

Going to keep that to myself I apologize just don’t want the which clubs better to start up

There are a few clubs that are doing this well.
Our club has been doing all of this for a while
and a few of her friends elsewhere seem to get the same.
It’s hard work and not just on the field!

This is our 3rd time doing this and it can seem overwhelming. Don’t be afraid to Ask questions but don’t stress. Plenty of opportunities to play and be seen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I'm sure it will become a big controversy as everything is on here but we are with jesters. The entire staff is extremely helpful and the recruiting director and coaches are working well together to support us.


Sorry should have clarified my original post that you replied to asking about the team was the one that said recruiting director and coaches and listed what we’ve done so far. I also have friends on other teams who are also happy with the recruiting advice given so far.
NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop[/quote]

Get that video up if not done already. Connect Lax we like but several others .

Don’t be afraid to ask but work towards being somewhat self sufficient. Some of these clubs have A and B teams at every age. That’s a ton of girls needing help from directors. Be aware that many girls get lost. It’s up to you to advocate for your player.
A few clubs only have one team per age which is a big plus if you can get on.

We like female non parent coaches that have played and coached at the highest level. HS and college if you can find it. Lord knows we pay enough and deserve it.

If they want it-Plenty of places to play for women D1-D2-D3 and club, It’s about getting an education and maybe having some fun at the same time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

Come on no one comes on here for real info, with anonymous posting everyone comes on to bash everyone and everything!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop

Get that video up if not done already. Connect Lax we like but several others .

Don’t be afraid to ask but work towards being somewhat self sufficient. Some of these clubs have A and B teams at every age. That’s a ton of girls needing help from directors. Be aware that many girls get lost. It’s up to you to advocate for your player.
A few clubs only have one team per age which is a big plus if you can get on.

We like female non parent coaches that have played and coached at the highest level. HS and college if you can find it. Lord knows we pay enough and deserve it.

If they want it-Plenty of places to play for women D1-D2-D3 and club, It’s about getting an education and maybe having some fun at the same time.[/quote]

Yes! The zooms we have done with our coach have been extremely helpful because they teach us what to do and give us feedback. A big emphasis on kids doing it and not us for our kids. We are grateful for the hammerhead box jesters has given us, but we know in the end up comes down to our daughter doing her part.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop

Get that video up if not done already. Connect Lax we like but several others .

Don’t be afraid to ask but work towards being somewhat self sufficient. Some of these clubs have A and B teams at every age. That’s a ton of girls needing help from directors. Be aware that many girls get lost. It’s up to you to advocate for your player.
A few clubs only have one team per age which is a big plus if you can get on.

We like female non parent coaches that have played and coached at the highest level. HS and college if you can find it. Lord knows we pay enough and deserve it.

If they want it-Plenty of places to play for women D1-D2-D3 and club, It’s about getting an education and maybe having some fun at the same time.

Yes! The zooms we have done with our coach have been extremely helpful because they teach us what to do and give us feedback. A big emphasis on kids doing it and not us for our kids. We are grateful for the hammerhead box jesters has given us, but we know in the end up comes down to our daughter doing her part.[/quote]

Lol 😂
Some free advertising on BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I'm sure it will become a big controversy as everything is on here but we are with jesters. The entire staff is extremely helpful and the recruiting director and coaches are working well together to support us.


Sorry should have clarified my original post that you replied to asking about the team was the one that said recruiting director and coaches and listed what we’ve done so far. I also have friends on other teams who are also happy with the recruiting advice given so far.

As a parent I need to know…
Who’s the coach of this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop

Get that video up if not done already. Connect Lax we like but several others .

Don’t be afraid to ask but work towards being somewhat self sufficient. Some of these clubs have A and B teams at every age. That’s a ton of girls needing help from directors. Be aware that many girls get lost. It’s up to you to advocate for your player.
A few clubs only have one team per age which is a big plus if you can get on.

We like female non parent coaches that have played and coached at the highest level. HS and college if you can find it. Lord knows we pay enough and deserve it.

If they want it-Plenty of places to play for women D1-D2-D3 and club, It’s about getting an education and maybe having some fun at the same time.

Yes! The zooms we have done with our coach have been extremely helpful because they teach us what to do and give us feedback. A big emphasis on kids doing it and not us for our kids. We are grateful for the hammerhead box jesters has given us, but we know in the end up comes down to our daughter doing her part.[/quote]

Not sure why this corrected to hammerhead. I was saying they have given our team a hammerhead kit or hammerhead box like a set of things to use to help us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]What are your recruiting directors or coaching doing for you ? I was reading another thread about things the club should be helping recruiting age players with and am curious what type of help you are receiving ?

Recruiting director: a zoom on recruiting and tournaments, contact to colleges pre/post tournaments, email templates, conferences with players about top choices.

Coach: multiple zooms on how to use connect lax, one about sports recruits tomorrow, reviewed recruiting profiles to help market our daughter properly, has helped us make film/taught us how to make our own, contact to coaches pre/post tournaments, runs social media, flyers for coaches with roster and jersey #s, first email templates and feedback through google drive, help with follow up emails, help with end of fall emails, multiple emails and chats about different schools camps/showcases/etc.

Coach and recruiting director seem to go back and forth before sending things out and note it when sending us information. The support we have received is amazing. We are beyond grateful.

That's awesome. And hopefully by the summer, the recruiting directors will be actively advocating on your girls behalf before the contact period. Our recruiting director has always said her busiest two weeks of the year and the two weeks before contact period.


What club are you with

Going to keep that to myself I apologize just don’t want the which clubs better to start up

There are a few clubs that are doing this well.
Our club has been doing all of this for a while
and a few of her friends elsewhere seem to get the same.
It’s hard work and not just on the field!

This is our 3rd time doing this and it can seem overwhelming. Don’t be afraid to Ask questions but don’t stress. Plenty of opportunities to play and be seen.

Yes ask questions as much as possible to coaches and directors
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?
December has several good camps and college clinics. The 2024's will be the center of attention for schools that are mostly done with their 2023's. Understand schools cast a large net, so contact is far from tops on their recruiting rankings.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

Yes our daughters team has had d1 interest through the club
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I'm sure it will become a big controversy as everything is on here but we are with jesters. The entire staff is extremely helpful and the recruiting director and coaches are working well together to support us.


Sorry should have clarified my original post that you replied to asking about the team was the one that said recruiting director and coaches and listed what we’ve done so far. I also have friends on other teams who are also happy with the recruiting advice given so far.

As a parent I need to know…
Who’s the coach of this team?

Sam Tilts is the 2024! Head Coach.
She’s amazing and the best travel coach on Long Island
She works so hard.
She’s in charge of all the recruiting, practices, game strategy, runs the tailgate, and so much more.
Not sure why 91 let her go but their loss and our gain.
My 2024 is getting serious looks from high level D1 schools with help from her and she’s not even her best player.
Please i am not trying to be rude but can you explain what you mean by "serious" looks from high level D1 schools already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I agree with this. Despite negative comments following anything positive when you name coaches or clubs it does help parents with younger players navigate the club scene. I for one appreciate when you name positive things happening and I ignore 99% of the coach and program bashing since they’re usually a scorned o individual with something to gain by trying to destroy reputations of other clubs. I hope you post which club you’re with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I agree with this. Despite negative comments following anything positive when you name coaches or clubs it does help parents with younger players navigate the club scene. I for one appreciate when you name positive things happening and I ignore 99% of the coach and program bashing since they’re usually a scorned o individual with something to gain by trying to destroy reputations of other clubs. I hope you post which club you’re with.

The OP replied. It’s Jesters.
Our club hasn’t offered much help this year yet. Is it important to be heavily involved in recruiting already? If we haven’t started yet are we behind the curve?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Define high gear. UNC is obviously a big time school for lax but other camps have been happening all fall and will continue to happen in the winter, spring and summer.
All Schools are still heavy on 2023.
A few 2024 may have some contact with D2 and 3 but it’s slow moving. D1 can’t contact 2024 until next Sept 1. A school looking at your connectlax account does not mean you are being recruited.
There's no way your Childs getting serious D1 looks. They aren't aloud to speak to you until September 1st so how do you know this if they aren't speaking to you. If a coach is caught talking with your daughter she is not aloud to attend that school with NCAA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What club are you with ????

See my previous reply

OK, totally respect that. However, a lot of people come to BOTC to hopefully get info. From parents on the clubs they are currently on.

Especially the ones who have younger kids who are trying to find a club for their kids. It’s good to hear from parents what they do and don’t like about their kids current clubS.

I personally talk to parents from different clubs to try and get their perspective. It helped a lot with my kid, and I didn’t waste years on her first club because I knew they did zero to help in recruiting from talking to the older kids parents.

I agree with this. Despite negative comments following anything positive when you name coaches or clubs it does help parents with younger players navigate the club scene. I for one appreciate when you name positive things happening and I ignore 99% of the coach and program bashing since they’re usually a scorned o individual with something to gain by trying to destroy reputations of other clubs. I hope you post which club you’re with.

The OP replied. It’s Jesters.

Seems like this club is looking from free ad space. I love how you ask the question and then answer it yourself. It’s entertaining to watch you build the story over the course of the day. It’s like watching an infomercial. As a jester I guess you should know how to make people laugh. It may not all be completely truthful but certainly funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our club hasn’t offered much help this year yet. Is it important to be heavily involved in recruiting already? If we haven’t started yet are we behind the curve?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our club hasn’t offered much help this year yet. Is it important to be heavily involved in recruiting already? If we haven’t started yet are we behind the curve?


Yes you should run as fast as you can to a team telling you that their girls are already getting D1 interest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's no way your Childs getting serious D1 looks. They aren't aloud to speak to you until September 1st so how do you know this if they aren't speaking to you. If a coach is caught talking with your daughter she is not aloud to attend that school with NCAA.

All of this nonsense that we have to read everyday is starting to make sense.

Definition of Jester-
- a person who habitually plays a fool
-a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

Most of the strongest college programs are done or close to being done with their 23s. They likely have a spot or two left and will wait until May or June to see who hits the Transfer Portal.

It’s not the early bird that gets the best 24s it’s the best programs. The best programs have already started identifying which players they will recruit in the class of 2024.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's no way your Childs getting serious D1 looks. They aren't aloud to speak to you until September 1st so how do you know this if they aren't speaking to you. If a coach is caught talking with your daughter she is not aloud to attend that school with NCAA.

It can actually be true. The coach is unable to contact the player, but coach can contact the club.
There is always a loophole
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!

UNC Camp has coaches from many schools, not just UNC….
The UNC camp will have coaches from many top programs attending as well. It is a great opportunity for 24's to work and be seen by multiple coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!

UNC Camp has coaches from many schools, not just UNC….

Traditionally the UNC camp has attracted many of the very best recruits, has had many coaches from many different schools and has been one of the premier recruiting camps/events.

This year:

Florida - Reggie Thorpe
ASU - Dorrien Van Dyke
Cornell - Margaret Corzel
Dartmouth - Tee Ladouceur
Notre Dame - Jenna Slowey
High Point University - Kelly McQuilkin
East Carolina University - Tianna Wallpher
Michigan - Emilia Ward
Louisville - Scott Teeter
Hopkins - Kristen Carr
Syracuse - Kenzie Kent
Richmond - Anne Harrington
Mercer - Sam Eustace
Elon - Taylor Caskey
Colgate - Kathy Taylor
Virginia Tech - MC Bryne
Penn State - Molly Hendrick
Vanderbilt - Jill Doherty
James Madison University - Halley Warden
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!

UNC Camp has coaches from many schools, not just UNC….

Traditionally the UNC camp has attracted many of the very best recruits, has had many coaches from many different schools and has been one of the premier recruiting camps/events.

This year:

Florida - Reggie Thorpe
ASU - Dorrien Van Dyke
Cornell - Margaret Corzel
Dartmouth - Tee Ladouceur
Notre Dame - Jenna Slowey
High Point University - Kelly McQuilkin
East Carolina University - Tianna Wallpher
Michigan - Emilia Ward
Louisville - Scott Teeter
Hopkins - Kristen Carr
Syracuse - Kenzie Kent
Richmond - Anne Harrington
Mercer - Sam Eustace
Elon - Taylor Caskey
Colgate - Kathy Taylor
Virginia Tech - MC Bryne
Penn State - Molly Hendrick
Vanderbilt - Jill Doherty
James Madison University - Halley Warden

There are numerous other camps/clinics/showcases that have quality coaches attending. the UNC one is not the grand daddy of them all.
We've played for a number of teams. Say what you will, but Jesters has blown them all away; from communication, events, training opportunities, to recruitment.

I'm not here to disparage other teams, but we feel fortunate to have earned a spot on the Jesters. We had no idea what we were missing out on until we started playing for them. As for Tilts, haters are going to detest, but just know that she works darn hard for her girls!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!

UNC Camp has coaches from many schools, not just UNC….

Traditionally the UNC camp has attracted many of the very best recruits, has had many coaches from many different schools and has been one of the premier recruiting camps/events.

This year:

Florida - Reggie Thorpe
ASU - Dorrien Van Dyke
Cornell - Margaret Corzel
Dartmouth - Tee Ladouceur
Notre Dame - Jenna Slowey
High Point University - Kelly McQuilkin
East Carolina University - Tianna Wallpher
Michigan - Emilia Ward
Louisville - Scott Teeter
Hopkins - Kristen Carr
Syracuse - Kenzie Kent
Richmond - Anne Harrington
Mercer - Sam Eustace
Elon - Taylor Caskey
Colgate - Kathy Taylor
Virginia Tech - MC Bryne
Penn State - Molly Hendrick
Vanderbilt - Jill Doherty
James Madison University - Halley Warden

There are numerous other camps/clinics/showcases that have quality coaches attending. the UNC one is not the grand daddy of them all.


Maybe not. But it is usually the first BIG winter 24 event and probably gets the best talent from across the east coast and nation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have heard some 2024's have been contacted through their clubs recently. Nothing wrong with it, just seems early. I assume 2023 are still the priority, but the early bird gets the best 2024's. Have other people heard any of this?

24 recruiting kicks into high gear next week with the UNC camp. Expect all the best 24s on the east coast to be there.

Except all the best players who have no interest going there!

UNC Camp has coaches from many schools, not just UNC….

Traditionally the UNC camp has attracted many of the very best recruits, has had many coaches from many different schools and has been one of the premier recruiting camps/events.

This year:

Florida - Reggie Thorpe
ASU - Dorrien Van Dyke
Cornell - Margaret Corzel
Dartmouth - Tee Ladouceur
Notre Dame - Jenna Slowey
High Point University - Kelly McQuilkin
East Carolina University - Tianna Wallpher
Michigan - Emilia Ward
Louisville - Scott Teeter
Hopkins - Kristen Carr
Syracuse - Kenzie Kent
Richmond - Anne Harrington
Mercer - Sam Eustace
Elon - Taylor Caskey
Colgate - Kathy Taylor
Virginia Tech - MC Bryne
Penn State - Molly Hendrick
Vanderbilt - Jill Doherty
James Madison University - Halley Warden

There are numerous other camps/clinics/showcases that have quality coaches attending. the UNC one is not the grand daddy of them all.

Wow, your post seems a bit hostile, what in the world would cause you to respond in that manner to a post that simply stated that many coaches would be there and that in the past it was a competitive camp with many of the best recruits.

Very strange.
There are numerous other camps/clinics/showcases that have quality coaches attending. the UNC one is not the grand daddy of them all.[/quote]

Wow, your post seems a bit hostile, what in the world would cause you to respond in that manner to a post that simply stated that many coaches would be there and that in the past it was a competitive camp with many of the best recruits.

Very strange.[/quote]

sorry
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.
[quote=Anonymous]UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.[/quo

True Dat
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming
Nike alpha huarache 8 elite

Anyone has any suggestions where I can buy this cleats? "nike alpha huarache 8 elite".

Daughter need to buy one asap since hers were broken.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nike alpha huarache 8 elite

Anyone has any suggestions where I can buy this cleats? "nike alpha huarache 8 elite".

Daughter need to buy one asap since hers were broken.

I had to buy my daughters last pair on eBay because nobody had her size anywhere.
I laugh at the snarky remarks about the UNC, Duke, UVA or whatever camp that attracks good players. People know that only 3-10 girls attending any quality camp may attend that school or get an offer. There are other coaches that get to talk to the girls instead of a quick peek from 50 feet away for 10 minutes at a tournament. In my humble opinion it's worth the $ for most girls to attend at least 1 good camp to see the talent level of girls from all over the country through their own eyes. You(the girl) get a real sense of who is good and where you stand after 2 days of drills and competing in small groups. All the parents believe little Jane and Suzie are top 10 talent, but the girls usually know where they really stand and can focus in on schools where they think they fit in and will be happy. After all, it is their ultimate decision, give them the tools to help with the decision.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I laugh at the snarky remarks about the UNC, Duke, UVA or whatever camp that attracks good players. People know that only 3-10 girls attending any quality camp may attend that school or get an offer. There are other coaches that get to talk to the girls instead of a quick peek from 50 feet away for 10 minutes at a tournament. In my humble opinion it's worth the $ for most girls to attend at least 1 good camp to see the talent level of girls from all over the country through their own eyes. You(the girl) get a real sense of who is good and where you stand after 2 days of drills and competing in small groups. All the parents believe little Jane and Suzie are top 10 talent, but the girls usually know where they really stand and can focus in on schools where they think they fit in and will be happy. After all, it is their ultimate decision, give them the tools to help with the decision.

Never take advice from some who uses the word attracks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

3 daughters who all played D1 upper 1/3-dropped notIntelligent money was $550 back then-all got recruited from prospect camps
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nike alpha huarache 8 elite

Anyone has any suggestions where I can buy this cleats? "nike alpha huarache 8 elite".

Daughter need to buy one asap since hers were broken.

I bought some for my daughter on ebay .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I laugh at the snarky remarks about the UNC, Duke, UVA or whatever camp that attracks good players. People know that only 3-10 girls attending any quality camp may attend that school or get an offer. There are other coaches that get to talk to the girls instead of a quick peek from 50 feet away for 10 minutes at a tournament. In my humble opinion it's worth the $ for most girls to attend at least 1 good camp to see the talent level of girls from all over the country through their own eyes. You(the girl) get a real sense of who is good and where you stand after 2 days of drills and competing in small groups. All the parents believe little Jane and Suzie are top 10 talent, but the girls usually know where they really stand and can focus in on schools where they think they fit in and will be happy. After all, it is their ultimate decision, give them the tools to help with the decision.

Agreed. biggest wake up call for my first daughter was attending a major camp as an 8th grader (UVA or Duke I think). She quickly found out that there is good lax outside of long island and motivated her to work 2x as hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nike alpha huarache 8 elite

Anyone has any suggestions where I can buy this cleats? "nike alpha huarache 8 elite".

Daughter need to buy one asap since hers were broken.

I bought some for my daughter on ebay .

Talked to a distributor the other day. They are hearing June for Nike and New Balance due to supply chain issues. I just bought some from ebay. There is also Poshmark and Sideline Swap.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

3 daughters who all played D1 upper 1/3-dropped notIntelligent money was $550 back then-all got recruited from prospect camps

I’m guessing “upper 1/3” is really bottom 50% of DI.
If that makes you feel better -one has national championship. I just wanted to save you guys some $$$.
Try Eastbay website
Quick delivery and they carry everything
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight

A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

And maybe 5 will get an offer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight

A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

And maybe 5 will get an offer.

Probably closer to 10-15 since there were 24s,25s, and 26s there. but your point is valid.

UNC will have 400 next weekend, but there will be 17 D1 coaches there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

Anyone go to the Vanderbilt or Yale camp this weekend? If so how were they?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight


Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

And maybe 5 will get an offer.

they already have 7 committed...how many does Stanford recruit per year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If that makes you feel better -one has national championship. I just wanted to save you guys some $$$.

Thank you.
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?
On average 20% for the good ones. You will hear of a very few that get full and some will get 50% and lots in between. If you get 20% that is good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

I’m assuming you are a HS player so I’ll break it down like this. If you are one of the best players on your HS varsity team as a sophomore and one of the best players on your club team and assuming that both of these teams are highly competitive, you might get some D1 offers come fall of junior year. The great thing about lacrosse is that there are hundreds of college programs from D1 to club, so there is usually a path for almost any HS player to play college lacrosse. My advice would be to focus on academic first then lacrosse second because your odds of getting an academic scholarship are about 100 times more likely than one for athletics. Good luck!
25%
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

Anything more than 20% and you should be ecstatic. If you’re daughter has the grades, they’ll be able to couple the athletic with academic money to get a large package
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

Completely depends. At the D1 level, for a field position player, anything over 35 % is exceptional. SOmetimes a top goalie will get more. There will be exception where a top player will get more, but that is truly an exception.

So for example. Women's lax gets 12 scholarships in total. That's 3 per year.

Most schools bring in 8-10 girls per class. of though, 6 or 7 are usually getting $$ while 2-3 are PWOs. So 7 girls are dividing up 3 scholarships with goalies and sometime draw specialists getting more.


Also you should not that most athletic grant in aid are given in $$, not percent. So they can keep the award the same while decreasing % over time as tuition rises.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

That is a very broad question. Athletic Scholarships can be between Zero and 100% of total cost to attend the school (some will jump on this and say 100% athletic scholarships never happen in lacrosse, to that I would say never say never although 100% would be extremely rare). The NCAA maximum number of scholarships that a program can offer is 12 per year (12 split up among the entire team). Not every program is fully funded, meaning the program may not have the maximum of 12 athletic scholarships they may have fewer to spit up.

Coaches have their recruits "ranked / prioritized" and the top kids will be offered more than the lower ranked players i.e. the coaches #1 will receive more $$ than the #5 etc...

Top tier recruits (the type of player being offered $$ at Top 10 caliber programs will most likely be able to negotiate more $$ if they are willing to drop to lower tiered programs.

Theoretically a coach would have 3 scholarships to divide among an incoming freshmen class (although with the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility things have changed).

Hypothetically:

#1 - 75%
#2 - 50%
#3 - 50%
#4 - 30%
#5 - 30%
#6 - 30%
#7 - 25%
#8 - 10%
#9 - 0

or any other combination imaginable... :-)

Most coaches will not decrease a players scholarship but they may increase the award is some instances.

Keep in mind that at some schools depending on your financial situation and how many kids you have in college need based aid can amount to more than an athletic scholarship, Also, academic/merit money can also be awarded at many schools.

I would say that 'a good percent" is in the eye of the beholder.... 30% athletic scholarship at a 70K per year University would not be enough for many but would be great for others...
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

That is a very broad question. Athletic Scholarships can be between Zero and 100% of total cost to attend the school (some will jump on this and say 100% athletic scholarships never happen in lacrosse, to that I would say never say never although 100% would be extremely rare). The NCAA maximum number of scholarships that a program can offer is 12 per year (12 split up among the entire team). Not every program is fully funded, meaning the program may not have the maximum of 12 athletic scholarships they may have fewer to spit up.

Coaches have their recruits "ranked / prioritized" and the top kids will be offered more than the lower ranked players i.e. the coaches #1 will receive more $$ than the #5 etc...

Top tier recruits (the type of player being offered $$ at Top 10 caliber programs will most likely be able to negotiate more $$ if they are willing to drop to lower tiered programs.

Theoretically a coach would have 3 scholarships to divide among an incoming freshmen class (although with the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility things have changed).

Hypothetically:

#1 - 75%
#2 - 50%
#3 - 50%
#4 - 30%
#5 - 30%
#6 - 30%
#7 - 25%
#8 - 10%
#9 - 0

or any other combination imaginable... :-)

Most coaches will not decrease a players scholarship but they may increase the award is some instances.

Keep in mind that at some schools depending on your financial situation and how many kids you have in college need based aid can amount to more than an athletic scholarship, Also, academic/merit money can also be awarded at many schools.

I would say that 'a good percent" is in the eye of the beholder.... 30% athletic scholarship at a 70K per year University would not be enough for many but would be great for others...

Stony brook is known for decreasing scholarships to kids who underperform and giving $$ to girls performing well
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

That is a very broad question. Athletic Scholarships can be between Zero and 100% of total cost to attend the school (some will jump on this and say 100% athletic scholarships never happen in lacrosse, to that I would say never say never although 100% would be extremely rare). The NCAA maximum number of scholarships that a program can offer is 12 per year (12 split up among the entire team). Not every program is fully funded, meaning the program may not have the maximum of 12 athletic scholarships they may have fewer to spit up.

Coaches have their recruits "ranked / prioritized" and the top kids will be offered more than the lower ranked players i.e. the coaches #1 will receive more $$ than the #5 etc...

Top tier recruits (the type of player being offered $$ at Top 10 caliber programs will most likely be able to negotiate more $$ if they are willing to drop to lower tiered programs.

Theoretically a coach would have 3 scholarships to divide among an incoming freshmen class (although with the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility things have changed).

Hypothetically:

#1 - 75%
#2 - 50%
#3 - 50%
#4 - 30%
#5 - 30%
#6 - 30%
#7 - 25%
#8 - 10%
#9 - 0

or any other combination imaginable... :-)

Most coaches will not decrease a players scholarship but they may increase the award is some instances.

Keep in mind that at some schools depending on your financial situation and how many kids you have in college need based aid can amount to more than an athletic scholarship, Also, academic/merit money can also be awarded at many schools.

I would say that 'a good percent" is in the eye of the beholder.... 30% athletic scholarship at a 70K per year University would not be enough for many but would be great for others...

Stony brook is known for decreasing scholarships to kids who underperform and giving $$ to girls performing well

If true that is the exception and not the rule…
BTW, I have not heard that SBU is “known for decreasing scholarships”…. It might happen but I don’t thin that is what they are known for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight

A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

And maybe 5 will get an offer.

Weird I said programs when referring to validity of UNC camp with 10-20 programs attending. I also alluded to parents bringing their daughters to schools they were qualified for. You somehow inferred I meant 200 kids going to Stanford with 8th grade A’s was my support of that.
My message still is valid. I be you attend the 185 college coach 3rd party showcases before 90 coach Team tourneys because of exposure. Weird the before day has more than the actual tournament but ok.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

That is a very broad question. Athletic Scholarships can be between Zero and 100% of total cost to attend the school (some will jump on this and say 100% athletic scholarships never happen in lacrosse, to that I would say never say never although 100% would be extremely rare). The NCAA maximum number of scholarships that a program can offer is 12 per year (12 split up among the entire team). Not every program is fully funded, meaning the program may not have the maximum of 12 athletic scholarships they may have fewer to spit up.

Coaches have their recruits "ranked / prioritized" and the top kids will be offered more than the lower ranked players i.e. the coaches #1 will receive more $$ than the #5 etc...

Top tier recruits (the type of player being offered $$ at Top 10 caliber programs will most likely be able to negotiate more $$ if they are willing to drop to lower tiered programs.

Theoretically a coach would have 3 scholarships to divide among an incoming freshmen class (although with the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility things have changed).

Hypothetically:

#1 - 75%
#2 - 50%
#3 - 50%
#4 - 30%
#5 - 30%
#6 - 30%
#7 - 25%
#8 - 10%
#9 - 0

or any other combination imaginable... :-)

Most coaches will not decrease a players scholarship but they may increase the award is some instances.

Keep in mind that at some schools depending on your financial situation and how many kids you have in college need based aid can amount to more than an athletic scholarship, Also, academic/merit money can also be awarded at many schools.

I would say that 'a good percent" is in the eye of the beholder.... 30% athletic scholarship at a 70K per year University would not be enough for many but would be great for others...

Stony brook is known for decreasing scholarships to kids who underperform and giving $$ to girls performing well

If true that is the exception and not the rule…
BTW, I have not heard that SBU is “known for decreasing scholarships”…. It might happen but I don’t thin that is what they are known for.


To be clear, most scholarships are given in $, not percentage. So as tuition rises, most scholarship %s will decrease.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UNC,UVA, and Duke camps were always a waste unless you are being directly recruited.

Not true.....where you get your info from is alarming

I know right. If D is good enough and the attending programs agree that camp will get her on radar. It’s almost as if just because you go and say score a few goals well they got to offer you 40% per year plus 40% because you had straight

A’s in 8th grade. Best advice is always aim for some actually attainable programs. Aim for some reach schools as well but don’t bet the house or shall I say her chances at a D1 scholarship on pride. Be honest.

Stanford camp has over 200 girls this weekend 😮

And maybe 5 will get an offer.

Weird I said programs when referring to validity of UNC camp with 10-20 programs attending. I also alluded to parents bringing their daughters to schools they were qualified for. You somehow inferred I meant 200 kids going to Stanford with 8th grade A’s was my support of that.
My message still is valid. I be you attend the 185 college coach 3rd party showcases before 90 coach Team tourneys because of exposure. Weird the before day has more than the actual tournament but ok.

no one is getting offers from those camps. No is getting looked at (especially 8th graders).... No one is being put a radar ....that is laughable... it is fun you get to see some of what is really out there..... and thats about it good luck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

I’m assuming you are a HS player so I’ll break it down like this. If you are one of the best players on your HS varsity team as a sophomore and one of the best players on your club team and assuming that both of these teams are highly competitive, you might get some D1 offers come fall of junior year. The great thing about lacrosse is that there are hundreds of college programs from D1 to club, so there is usually a path for almost any HS player to play college lacrosse. My advice would be to focus on academic first then lacrosse second because your odds of getting an academic scholarship are about 100 times more likely than one for athletics. Good luck!


Pretty spot on!

Also beware, not all colleges stack academic and athletic, and Ivy and patriot league don’t give athletic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

My kid is not on jesters pink pride sorry to disappoint

Just shedding some light on those b teams and “A” teams that are actually b teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent

Lol
Nice try
Worry about your own circus
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent

Every mentioned except for Jesters Black???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent

Every mentioned except for Jesters Black???

It doesn’t mention YJ, Legacy, Jesters Black, Elevate,Empire etc etc. I know exactly who you’re suggesting it is but she coaches the A and B 24 teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent

Every mentioned except for Jesters Black???

My money is on a YJ B or C team dad. Neither team mentioned in the original rant. I'm sure we will never know though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good percent to get offered from a college for lacrosse?

I’m assuming you are a HS player so I’ll break it down like this. If you are one of the best players on your HS varsity team as a sophomore and one of the best players on your club team and assuming that both of these teams are highly competitive, you might get some D1 offers come fall of junior year. The great thing about lacrosse is that there are hundreds of college programs from D1 to club, so there is usually a path for almost any HS player to play college lacrosse. My advice would be to focus on academic first then lacrosse second because your odds of getting an academic scholarship are about 100 times more likely than one for athletics. Good luck!


Pretty spot on!

Also beware, not all colleges stack academic and athletic, and Ivy and patriot league don’t give athletic.

Not exactly accurate with respect to Patriot League schools.
If you get a personal invite, ( the "we cant contact you directly but")... and teams are sniffing around your sports recruit bio at least 2 or more times, and they have seen you play, perhaps it should be considered that you go. Camps are a way to pay assistant coaches to stay at top programs, perhaps your child will be at a program and has a relationship with an assistant that is going to want to make more money, its a necessary part of the business. To retain services of assistant it cost money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some of these rankings are funny
Laxon losing in their tournaments then bumping down to the weakest brackets to win and finishing 116 this fall. The weird thing about them is they picked up every teams cuts. At least the girls get to play on a team that isn’t called a D team.
Then you have top guns black playing in a c-d bracket in Dallas
Liberty is essentially MIA , not even sure if they are actually a real team
91 played teams that can’t even catch and beating them then losing to a team ranked 70th is pretty spot on with the type of play the club thinks they can achieve.
Don’t even get me started on jesters pink, 91 navy, or elevate which should all just take the L and fold now.

This post is hilarious. What in the world provoked you to post this ?

It’s the BOTC Jester entertaining us again.
Thank you for making us laugh and acting the fool.

They insult the jesters in that post seems like a YJ or Legacy parent

Every mentioned except for Jesters Black???

My money is on a YJ B or C team dad. Neither team mentioned in the original rant. I'm sure we will never know though.

Nah , I think we know.
you are working too hard at trying to cover it up.
How long before you start promoting yourself again?
Enough, can we get back to college/recruiting information and advice. Hopefully, from some who have been through the process with their older kids! Thanks to all who have been and continue sharing that information. I appreciate it, and look to this forum for helpful and knowledgeable advice. So, thank you!! smile

Girls are 2024s now, time to move on from team bashing and worry about getting your kid in a position to find a good college situation. Prob. too late to be moving teams now anyways. No point in bashing each others teams. Hopefully all the LI girls find great schools to attend. Everyone’s journey is different!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough, can we get back to college/recruiting information and advice. Hopefully, from some who have been through the process with their older kids! Thanks to all who have been and continue sharing that information. I appreciate it, and look to this forum for helpful and knowledgeable advice. So, thank you!! smile

Girls are 2024s now, time to move on from team bashing and worry about getting your kid in a position to find a good college situation. Prob. too late to be moving teams now anyways. No point in bashing each others teams. Hopefully all the LI girls find great schools to attend. Everyone’s journey is different!

agreed
Went to the Vanderbilt camp, was good about 80 girls from all over Clinic in morning and 5 v 5 Tourney to finish up
I have nothing to cover up? I was pointing out that multiple teams were mentioned. I am far from capable of being able to coach a group of 16 year old girls. I can barely handle my own
So that was one of the most pathetic posts ever typed by an anonymous YJ ring kissing parent . I’m sure everyone appreciates your “ I played lax in high school “ evaluations. I know your the guy on the sidelines telling everyone how good YJ is and that your kid is amazing!! Obviously everyone is aware that this is fall ball , most teams trying things out and installing new offenses and defense schemes . I personally wouldn’t put tons of stock in a fall schedule or what tournament Laxon played in. You seem to be very busy studying every teams schedules , rankings and every other meaningless statistic. It’s time for you to get a new hobby !! I feel terrible for your daughter , very sad .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Went to the Vanderbilt camp, was good about 80 girls from all over Clinic in morning and 5 v 5 Tourney to finish up

Thank you
We are all looking forward to information on recruiting and camps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Went to the Vanderbilt camp, was good about 80 girls from all over Clinic in morning and 5 v 5 Tourney to finish up


Surprised the numbers were that low. How many other schools were there? Was the 80 girls mostly 24s?
Right !! Any help is always appreciated. Lots of winter camps/ prospect days
Duke prospect day 12/27-12/29
UF 12/28-12/29 prospect camp
Pitt 1/8 prospect day
Michigan 1/15 prospect day
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Went to the Vanderbilt camp, was good about 80 girls from all over Clinic in morning and 5 v 5 Tourney to finish up


Surprised the numbers were that low. How many other schools were there? Was the 80 girls mostly 24s?

This past weekend , so many camps going on. I know several girls who went to all different ones, sounded like low numbers at many of them. Girls were spread out all over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So that was one of the most pathetic posts ever typed by an anonymous YJ ring kissing parent . I’m sure everyone appreciates your “ I played lax in high school “ evaluations. I know your the guy on the sidelines telling everyone how good YJ is and that your kid is amazing!! Obviously everyone is aware that this is fall ball , most teams trying things out and installing new offenses and defense schemes . I personally wouldn’t put tons of stock in a fall schedule or what tournament Laxon played in. You seem to be very busy studying every teams schedules , rankings and every other meaningless statistic. It’s time for you to get a new hobby !! I feel terrible for your daughter , very sad .


Ok now you’ve done it. You’ve bashed every single club and team that is a threat to you including your own B(Pink) team. Was this a feeble attempt at a smoke screen or are you mad at them all for not showing up to practice and Dallas?
Bashing others will not make players want to leave and come play for you..

Pathetic?… YES it.is
But par for the course with you
Let’s get back to talking recruiting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Went to the Vanderbilt camp, was good about 80 girls from all over Clinic in morning and 5 v 5 Tourney to finish up


Surprised the numbers were that low. How many other schools were there? Was the 80 girls mostly 24s?

This past weekend , so many camps going on. I know several girls who went to all different ones, sounded like low numbers at many of them. Girls were spread out all over.


Because so many overlap girls get spread thin
I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So that was one of the most pathetic posts ever typed by an anonymous YJ ring kissing parent . I’m sure everyone appreciates your “ I played lax in high school “ evaluations. I know your the guy on the sidelines telling everyone how good YJ is and that your kid is amazing!! Obviously everyone is aware that this is fall ball , most teams trying things out and installing new offenses and defense schemes . I personally wouldn’t put tons of stock in a fall schedule or what tournament Laxon played in. You seem to be very busy studying every teams schedules , rankings and every other meaningless statistic. It’s time for you to get a new hobby !! I feel terrible for your daughter , very sad .


Ok now you’ve done it. You’ve bashed every single club and team that is a threat to you including your own B(Pink) team. Was this a feeble attempt at a smoke screen or are you mad at them all for not showing up to practice and Dallas?
Bashing others will not make players want to leave and come play for you..

Pathetic?… YES it.is
But par for the course with you
Let’s get back to talking recruiting

You really have something to prove accusing the same person over and over. You have zero proof of who posts things on here. Once again attacking the same person for no reason other than a personal grudge. You need to get over it. You’re acting like a big baby carrying on about a young women who probably doesn’t even know she’s being harassed by a 50 year old man on this website. All you’re doing is trying to start drama to make yourself feel like the alpha when no one is even challenging you. Grow up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So that was one of the most pathetic posts ever typed by an anonymous YJ ring kissing parent . I’m sure everyone appreciates your “ I played lax in high school “ evaluations. I know your the guy on the sidelines telling everyone how good YJ is and that your kid is amazing!! Obviously everyone is aware that this is fall ball , most teams trying things out and installing new offenses and defense schemes . I personally wouldn’t put tons of stock in a fall schedule or what tournament Laxon played in. You seem to be very busy studying every teams schedules , rankings and every other meaningless statistic. It’s time for you to get a new hobby !! I feel terrible for your daughter , very sad .

Ok now you’ve done it. You’ve bashed every single club and team that is a threat to you including your own B(Pink) team. Was this a feeble attempt at a smoke screen or are you mad at them all for not showing up to practice and Dallas?
Bashing others will not make players want to leave and come play for you..

Pathetic?… YES it.is
But par for the course with you
Let’s get back to talking recruiting

Can you stop already… we’re all trying to get real information for our kids and don’t want to hear about your ego being threatened anymore. You’re very transparent in what you’re doing just stop already so we can get back to what’s important.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?


Too many girls means it’s harder for yours to be noticed
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?


Too many girls means it’s harder for yours to be noticed

If you want to be recruited, you need to beat the commits in the drills and scrimmages. That's what the coaches are looking for. Good luck!
Considering the OP bashed every club except YJ and legacy pretty much shows you what you are dealing with ! Clearly he or she is infatuated with other clubs rankings, scores and what they are doing, pay attention to your own club and leave everyone alone.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?


Too many girls means it’s harder for yours to be noticed

What’s the story with certain camps being multiple days?
For instance Duke is 3 days and Florida is 2?
Are these camps or prospect days? Or a little of both?
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Considering the OP bashed every club except YJ and legacy pretty much shows you what you are dealing with ! Clearly he or she is infatuated with other clubs rankings, scores and what they are doing, pay attention to your own club and leave everyone alone.
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Considering the OP bashed every club except YJ and legacy pretty much shows you what you are dealing with ! Clearly he or she is infatuated with other clubs rankings, scores and what they are doing, pay attention to your own club and leave everyone alone.

Yes good advice but please stop dragging YJ and Legacy into this. Somebody tried to blame us early on. We are the ones normally being bashed and not the ones doing the bashing.

Does anyone have feedback on the Duke camp?
It’s 3 days?
Is it a camp or for prospects?
Can’t tell I’m site if it’s just Duke or other coaches also
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Considering the OP bashed every club except YJ and legacy pretty much shows you what you are dealing with ! Clearly he or she is infatuated with other clubs rankings, scores and what they are doing, pay attention to your own club and leave everyone alone.

Seriously this is likely a crazy parent everyone avoids on the sidelines.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There will be in total around 400 field players and around 30 goalies, about 50-60% will be 24s, about 20% 25s and a few middle schoolers and 23s.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).
For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There will be in total around 400 field players and around 30 goalies, about 50-60% will be 24s, about 20% 25s and a few middle schoolers and 23s.


Serious question - How can anyone possibly stand out if there are 400 players there?
Stop dragging YJ into it ?? Because you never get involved?? Lol that’s hysterical
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.
More exposure, but honestly they see what they need to see in one day . Most of the colleges run the kids through a mock college speed practice to see how they handle the pace and difficulty. Then they usually run some situational scenarios, then scrimmages. I don’t think it’s anything to worry about if a camp is 2 or 3 days .
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For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education

Thank you for this post. There is a school and opportunity for every lacrosse player on LI. Good luck to all!
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For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education


You are a shining star today. best post on this site ever !! Thank you for hopefully helping these crazy parents get their priorities straight.
Only Vanderbilt and no other coaches; and Its December, any camp or clinic not guaranteed to be inside the whole time is a big risk. The field house is great, but how exactly would huge prospect weekends work with ~600 players and only 1 indoor facility ( 2 indoor fields in next couple years)?
The best answer to above question is Florida or California
No other schools were there. Mostly 2024 I'd say maybe about 10 2023's Guess from my daughter Two of their 2023 committed class was there.

2024 from all over My daughter plays for M&D Maryland and we went down with 8.. Some Skywalkers, CT Grizzlies, Florida Select, M&D Orlando, LI Yellowjackets, Lakeshore and some other clubs I was not familiar with I think some GRit.
No other schools were there. Mostly 2024 I'd say maybe about 10 2023's Guess from my daughter Two of their 2023 committed class was there.

2024 from all over My daughter plays for M&D Maryland and we went down with 8.. Some Skywalkers, CT Grizzlies, Florida Select, M&D Orlando, LI Yellowjackets, Lakeshore and some other clubs I was not familiar with I think some GRit.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.
Extremely spot on analysis, this is every college camp and prospect day
At the Stanford camp, I think almost every 22 and 23 committ was there - which is impressive considering they seemed to mostly come from the East Coast. Level of play was high and the campus is - WOW - this time of year.
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No other schools were there. Mostly 2024 I'd say maybe about 10 2023's Guess from my daughter Two of their 2023 committed class was there.

2024 from all over My daughter plays for M&D Maryland and we went down with 8.. Some Skywalkers, CT Grizzlies, Florida Select, M&D Orlando, LI Yellowjackets, Lakeshore and some other clubs I was not familiar with I think some GRit.

Mad Dog West Elite (CA) had 5 players there and had 3 STEPS (NJ) players added to their team. My daughter plays for Mad Dog West Elite and loved the camp.
Denver University had a camp this past weekend. I think Yale did too.
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At the Stanford camp, I think almost every 22 and 23 committ was there - which is impressive considering they seemed to mostly come from the East Coast. Level of play was high and the campus is - WOW - this time of year.

Why would 22 and 23 commits be there? Do you mean players that have already committed? Are they hoping for a potential upgrade to another school?
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.

While not a "learning" camp, UNC does a better job than many others. Across the 10-12 hours of sessions, there will likely be under an hour or full field play and maybe 1-1.5 hours of 7 vs. 7.

Not saying it is better or worse than others, but definitely gives more of an opportunity for players to show off defense and Lax IQ.
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At the Stanford camp, I think almost every 22 and 23 committ was there - which is impressive considering they seemed to mostly come from the East Coast. Level of play was high and the campus is - WOW - this time of year.

Why would 22 and 23 commits be there? Do you mean players that have already committed? Are they hoping for a potential upgrade to another school?

In general, a schools committed players usually attend the schools camps.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There will be in total around 400 field players and around 30 goalies, about 50-60% will be 24s, about 20% 25s and a few middle schoolers and 23s.


Serious question - How can anyone possibly stand out if there are 400 players there?

Only the top athletes/players will stand out. The players who will receive offers from Top 10 caliber programs are Identified quickly. The majority of players will not stand out, that doesn’t mean that they are not good players, they just will not stand out compared to the best players. Keep in mind, there are two ways to “stand out” you can be better than most or you can be weaker than most… the majority of players at a camp like UNC will be good solid players.

If your daughter is one of the top kids the recruiting process will be fun and easy. For most it will be stressful and confusing at times.

Most will have to develop a plan and market themselves to the programs that they are interested in.
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For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education

Thank you for a very helpful post!
Do you share your recruiting efforts with others on your daughter's team? i.e. what college ID camps your daughter is attending, schools that have shown interest, etc. Does your club allow it or does your club have a strict "don't ask don't tell policy"? The whole recruiting process seems so stressful that in my opinion it seems that sharing info is helpful (knowledge is power kind of thing).
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Do you share your recruiting efforts with others on your daughter's team? i.e. what college ID camps your daughter is attending, schools that have shown interest, etc. Does your club allow it or does your club have a strict "don't ask don't tell policy"? The whole recruiting process seems so stressful that in my opinion it seems that sharing info is helpful (knowledge is power kind of thing).

Personal decision some believe you shouldn’t say anything some do not care.

I don’t think it matters too much however, if your daughter is a top tier player who gets recruited by the best programs and commits quickly you will notice some will not be happy for your daughter or you.

Probably the less said the better just because this sport can at times bring out the worst in people.

Just look at the comment any time s as n all-star team is selected.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.

You are 100% correct! All I know is my daughter pretty much did none of the “you must do this or that” that is preached on this site. No camps, no video, did not have a recruit account of any type. Never talked to her travel coach or club director about recruiting. Simply used the platform that the travel team provided to go play in games in front of coaches. Was also fortunate enough to make and play on all the high profile select teams. She did email 12-15 coaches summer of recruiting year to make them aware her interest in the programs. Heard from all but 1 of those on Sept 1st, along with 40+ additional programs. This is not to brag, this is to show how crazy so much of this stuff is. On the other hand you will have players who spend exorbitant amount of time and money doing the “you must do this and that” that is preached on here, with crickets on sept 1st. No matter how you go about it, you need to have game to get recruited and if you do, a lot of this stuff is overkill. My advice is to simply send the coaches an email with your accolades and schedule at each tournament and invite them to come watch you play. If you come from a strong team and have some accomplishments to back it up, the coaches will show up to watch you. Impress on the field and you will hear from them. Do not wait to be discovered, proactively seek programs out and start the correspondence. Handle 100% of your recruiting yourself, do not expect or rely on your coaches or club directors. Good luck!
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.

You are 100% correct! All I know is my daughter pretty much did none of the “you must do this or that” that is preached on this site. No camps, no video, did not have a recruit account of any type. Never talked to her travel coach or club director about recruiting. Simply used the platform that the travel team provided to go play in games in front of coaches. Was also fortunate enough to make and play on all the high profile select teams. She did email 12-15 coaches summer of recruiting year to make them aware her interest in the programs. Heard from all but 1 of those on Sept 1st, along with 40+ additional programs. This is not to brag, this is to show how crazy so much of this stuff is. On the other hand you will have players who spend exorbitant amount of time and money doing the “you must do this and that” that is preached on here, with crickets on sept 1st. No matter how you go about it, you need to have game to get recruited and if you do, a lot of this stuff is overkill. My advice is to simply send the coaches an email with your accolades and schedule at each tournament and invite them to come watch you play. If you come from a strong team and have some accomplishments to back it up, the coaches will show up to watch you. Impress on the field and you will hear from them. Do not wait to be discovered, proactively seek programs out and start the correspondence. Handle 100% of your recruiting yourself, do not expect or rely on your coaches or club directors. Good luck!

Trying to gain some perspective. Were the 12 - 15 programs that your daughter reached out to Top 10 caliber programs? While I agree with just about all of what you stated I believe your daughters experience sounds like maybe she was a top recruit.
Thank you all for sharing and hopefully it continues. It’s encouraging to know that there is so much opportunity for the girls and that not everyone is trying to make $$$ off of the process. Great to see the sharing of information and nobody attempting to take credit.

Keep it classy BOTC
does anyone know when film from presidents cup will be ready?
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There is much more actual coaching at UNC camp compared to other. Its not roll out the ball and play. There will be one session as a 7 vs 7 tourney, but the rest will be skill sessions with small-sided play. Much different than other camps which is why 4 of the to 6 programs of the country are there. a 22 daughter got multiple offers related to a UNC camp a couple years ago. (Neither from UNC).

Thank you! Nice to know it’s not a money grab to help pay the assistant coaches. Getting on the plane, paying hotel and car rental will be a little easier to justify now. Sounds like a good learning opportunity as well! That’s great.

UNC camp is not “much different “ than other camps. They all small sided play in stations followed by scrimmages. Be prepared for ballhogs. If your daughter gets stuck in a group with selfish payers, it can be rough. I don’t think anyone is going to these camps to learn lacrosse. This is not a “learning “ camp, it’s a chance to show what you can do. The commits will also be there trying to show off. UNC does have coaches from other programs unlike many others. If your daughter is a top player on a strong team, don’t waste your money, she will be recruited off the summer circuit to all these schools (UNC,BC, Duke, Virginia, etc) despite people telling you that you must attend the camp.

You are 100% correct! All I know is my daughter pretty much did none of the “you must do this or that” that is preached on this site. No camps, no video, did not have a recruit account of any type. Never talked to her travel coach or club director about recruiting. Simply used the platform that the travel team provided to go play in games in front of coaches. Was also fortunate enough to make and play on all the high profile select teams. She did email 12-15 coaches summer of recruiting year to make them aware her interest in the programs. Heard from all but 1 of those on Sept 1st, along with 40+ additional programs. This is not to brag, this is to show how crazy so much of this stuff is. On the other hand you will have players who spend exorbitant amount of time and money doing the “you must do this and that” that is preached on here, with crickets on sept 1st. No matter how you go about it, you need to have game to get recruited and if you do, a lot of this stuff is overkill. My advice is to simply send the coaches an email with your accolades and schedule at each tournament and invite them to come watch you play. If you come from a strong team and have some accomplishments to back it up, the coaches will show up to watch you. Impress on the field and you will hear from them. Do not wait to be discovered, proactively seek programs out and start the correspondence. Handle 100% of your recruiting yourself, do not expect or rely on your coaches or club directors. Good luck!


While this advice could be sound it is only that for the top tier players in the top clubs. If you’re on the top team in your state or a top ten team you’re set. If you are in a 20-50 type of team you need to be proactive. If you are on a weaker team with a not so great track record of recruiting you just need to reevaluate where you may fit in d1-D3 programs
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does anyone know when film from presidents cup will be ready?

I asked on the IWLCA instagram and they said 10-15 days after the event, which would have been Monday at the latest. Quite frustrating.
We're new to recruiting. My daughter gets emails for camps at high academic schools. I know they're from mailing lists, but are they blasted to everyone who attends certain showcases/tournaments? Or do they select players based on profile criteria (automated searches) or observation from attending these showcases/tournaments?

Just trying to get an idea how broad/targeted these emails are.
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We're new to recruiting. My daughter gets emails for camps at high academic schools. I know they're from mailing lists, but are they blasted to everyone who attends certain showcases/tournaments? Or do they select players based on profile criteria (automated searches) or observation from attending these showcases/tournaments?

Just trying to get an idea how broad/targeted these emails are.

In our experience (two currently in college) most will be mass emails... You will most likely be able to tell if the email is more targeted and personal. Some programs had small "invite only camps" that they would invite the players they wanted to see at the camp and fill it up before the info/registration was made public / put on the programs website.
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does anyone know when film from presidents cup will be ready?

Film was just posted to our IWLCARecruits account.
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We're new to recruiting. My daughter gets emails for camps at high academic schools. I know they're from mailing lists, but are they blasted to everyone who attends certain showcases/tournaments? Or do they select players based on profile criteria (automated searches) or observation from attending these showcases/tournaments?

Just trying to get an idea how broad/targeted these emails are.

It varies event by event. From our past experience, the high academic camps tends to be a bit more selective, at least using GPA as a key search element.
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We're new to recruiting. My daughter gets emails for camps at high academic schools. I know they're from mailing lists, but are they blasted to everyone who attends certain showcases/tournaments? Or do they select players based on profile criteria (automated searches) or observation from attending these showcases/tournaments?

Just trying to get an idea how broad/targeted these emails are.

It varies event by event. From our past experience, the high academic camps tends to be a bit more selective, at least using GPA as a key search element.

GPA as a key search requirement. Every kid lies about that. Geez...wake-up
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We're new to recruiting. My daughter gets emails for camps at high academic schools. I know they're from mailing lists, but are they blasted to everyone who attends certain showcases/tournaments? Or do they select players based on profile criteria (automated searches) or observation from attending these showcases/tournaments?

Just trying to get an idea how broad/targeted these emails are.

It varies event by event. From our past experience, the high academic camps tends to be a bit more selective, at least using GPA as a key search element.

GPA as a key search requirement. Every kid lies about that. Geez...wake-up
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?


Too many girls means it’s harder for yours to be noticed

What’s the story with certain camps being multiple days?
For instance Duke is 3 days and Florida is 2?
Are these camps or prospect days? Or a little of both?

The multi day camps are a mix based on my daughter's experience. The longer camps at top programs do attract top players, and current commits often attend as well. There will also be less serious players who are there for learning and/or a fun experience (maybe local and it's convenient to attend) and players who don't yet realize they will not be top recruits. I don't mean to be harsh, but there are a lot of players out there who are very good but not Top 20 ability who attend Top 20 camps in large numbers in 9th & 10th grades. It can be hard to stand out and be noticed, so don't spend the money if you'll be disappointed if a camp does not spark any recruiting interest. Spend the money for the opportunity to get to know campus, play with and against good competition, have fun and work with different college coaches. Recruiting interest from the camp is icing on the cake.

There are usually drills, small group sessions and team scrimmages. Sometimes camp ends with queen of the hill type competitions or a championship game. The intended atmosphere seems to be fun and not too high pressure, but yes, coaches do watch and identify some players to recruit or evaluate players already on their radar. Some programs announce coaches in advance and some do not, but most camps have at least a few coaches from other college programs. Full field teams are often random and mixed age/ability but small groups can be set by skill/age with specific already identified girls. Yes, sometimes there is luck involved in avoiding the team with a ball hog or player who can't catch and throw. Your daughter just needs to do her best and focus on what she can control.

The part above about grouping specific players is especially true for shorter prospect days. Those are most worth your time if you already know the program is interested or your daughter can somehow get on coach's radar in advance, maybe through a coach or club director. Girls being recruited are grouped together. Prospect days often include an optional campus tour or Q&A session with coaches/current players. The 2-3 day camps are good for learning, seeing how you stack up compared to other players and commits, working with a variety of coaches, spending time on campus at a school of interest and they can lead to contact from other schools but not always. Club tournaments well attended by college coaches are better bang for your buck in my opinion, and prospect days are good once interest has been established or there is a program your daughter is really, really interested in. Still have your daughter reach out in advance, send film and try to get her coach or advocate to do the same. After Sept 1st of junior year I would focus on those where coach has enough interest to at least schedule a call with your daughter (players can send film, express interest in school and request a call), at least when it comes to upper D1 with more accelerated recruiting timeline.

All of this is my family's experience, others may have different experiences of course. Also may not apply for D2/D3 which my daughter was not pursuing, but there are great opportunities there as well.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There will be in total around 400 field players and around 30 goalies, about 50-60% will be 24s, about 20% 25s and a few middle schoolers and 23s.


Serious question - How can anyone possibly stand out if there are 400 players there?

Only the top athletes/players will stand out. The players who will receive offers from Top 10 caliber programs are Identified quickly. The majority of players will not stand out, that doesn’t mean that they are not good players, they just will not stand out compared to the best players. Keep in mind, there are two ways to “stand out” you can be better than most or you can be weaker than most… the majority of players at a camp like UNC will be good solid players.

If your daughter is one of the top kids the recruiting process will be fun and easy. For most it will be stressful and confusing at times.

Most will have to develop a plan and market themselves to the programs that they are interested in.


Assuming your 24 daughter played a good fall schedule, you should already have a sense of which schools are at least (somewhat) interested. If your club recruiting director hasn't heard from at least a few of your targeted schools expressing interest., you are probably targeting schools at too high of a lacrosse level. This isn't to say that if a school hasn't reached out to your club yet, that they aren't interested, however, if no one is reaching out, take that as a sign.
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I live NC and can definitely tell you that the UNC camps are a HUGE draw. UNC has a massive social media following and they know how to market their camps and word gets around. On connectlax you can see a list of some recruits confirmed to be attending and some big names on there already.

Yes, we are here on LI and know lots of girls heading to UNC camp on the weekend. That camp will be at full capacity… It’s sold out! Not sure if that’s do good. May be too many girls?

There will be in total around 400 field players and around 30 goalies, about 50-60% will be 24s, about 20% 25s and a few middle schoolers and 23s.


Serious question - How can anyone possibly stand out if there are 400 players there?

Only the top athletes/players will stand out. The players who will receive offers from Top 10 caliber programs are Identified quickly. The majority of players will not stand out, that doesn’t mean that they are not good players, they just will not stand out compared to the best players. Keep in mind, there are two ways to “stand out” you can be better than most or you can be weaker than most… the majority of players at a camp like UNC will be good solid players.

If your daughter is one of the top kids the recruiting process will be fun and easy. For most it will be stressful and confusing at times.

Most will have to develop a plan and market themselves to the programs that they are interested in.


Assuming your 24 daughter played a good fall schedule, you should already have a sense of which schools are at least (somewhat) interested. If your club recruiting director hasn't heard from at least a few of your targeted schools expressing interest., you are probably targeting schools at too high of a lacrosse level. This isn't to say that if a school hasn't reached out to your club yet, that they aren't interested, however, if no one is reaching out, take that as a sign.

Does your clubs recruiting director tell the girls who reached out to her? Or, does your daughter have to ask her?
we have regular check-ins where she shared who has reached out. This helps in updating target list, planning summer schedule in additional to finding certain things that should be highlighted as you cut up our fall film.
Does your clubs recruiting director tell the girls who reached out to her? Or, does your daughter have to ask her?

Our club always called us to discuss the conversations they had with college coaches. They also would forward us the emails. Many times the club coach was the liaison between us and the college coaches prior to Sept. 1. We were able to communicate our level of interest that way.
Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?
Did anyone hear anything about IWLCA Experience before the Dallas President's Cup?
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 6 colleges reach out to the club and/or coach since presidents cup
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 5 schools my daughters target list and 2 not on the list reach out this fall. Actually most of these were from lax for the cure not champions cup.

Of those 5, 3 came back and watched live at IWLCA
What girls are going to best in class? Seems like some good players from other areas. Anyone doing under armour 150 ?
What club does your daughter play for? She must be a top recruit.


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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 6 colleges reach out to the club and/or coach since presidents cup
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[quote=Anonymous]Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 6 colleges reach out to the club and/or coach since presidents cup[/quote

What club are you with ?
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Did anyone hear anything about IWLCA Experience before the Dallas President's Cup?

My daughter did it. I wasn't a fan. WAY too many girls there, she never got to play in front of the coaches whose schools she was interested in. You didn't miss anything except flying in a day early to spend some extra money on a camp. My 2 cents.
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[quote=Anonymous]Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 6 colleges reach out to the club and/or coach since presidents cup[/quote

What club are you with ?

Reach out??… It’s Not D1 until 9/1
D2 and D3 can talk but they are talking their time with 2024
2023 is still the focus
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?
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Our daughter and her coaches & recruiting director talk multiple times a week about recruiting.


I am completely curious as to how many teams have contacted your club about your daughter ?

We’ve had 5 schools my daughters target list and 2 not on the list reach out this fall. Actually most of these were from lax for the cure not champions cup.

Of those 5, 3 came back and watched live at IWLCA


What do you mean Reach out? Are you 2023?
So many opportunities to be seen -camps, clinics , tourneys. Thank you for sharing.
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Seems like some fake news on the verge of a drop.
The most that’s happening with the D1 schools is that they are looking at your connectlax account. That is not considered reaching out or they wouldn’t do it.
You don’t need to be a superstar or have a self promoting superstar recruiting director to have that happen.
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Seems like some fake news on the verge of a drop.
The most that’s happening with the D1 schools is that they are looking at your connectlax account. That is not considered reaching out or they wouldn’t do it.
You don’t need to be a superstar or have a self promoting superstar recruiting director to have that happen.

NCAA rules allow the coaches to express interest in a player to your club director, just not the “level of interest”. Further, college coaches are allowed to reach out to the player with a questionnaire. Having gone through this before, my daughter was informed of interest from her club director as well received questionnaire requests in a few ways (direct responses to emails she sent coaches, unsolicited emails and hand written letters via US mail as well). This all started during the fall tourneys and accelerated into mid/late December - post tourneys and during the winter camp and prospect clinics. Would slow down a bit during the NCAA season, then pick up after in the summer and leading up to Sep 1. Good luck to those new to the process!
Most of the top 30 programs have 6+ girls committed. Those top programs may have 1 or 2 spots for a 2023 or more likely a 5th year transfer. The top programs are where the girls looking to play an extra year are going. So this is prime time for them to look at 2024's at camps, showcase and tournaments. Most probably have begun to reach out, but understand they will cast a large net over the next 8 months. You never forget you first D1 contact, haha. So why should they wait to contact clubs about the top girls in the 2024 class that have caught their eye. Recruiting never ends and is stressful for both parties involved.
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For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education


Thank you for posting this. Sometimes things that are posted on here don’t seem genuine or truthful. That makes me sad for those that are actually looking for advice.
Funny how the person still didn't answer the question about what club they are from.

What club does your daughter play fo?


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For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education


Thank you for posting this. Sometimes things that are posted on here don’t seem genuine or truthful. That makes me sad for those that are actually looking for advice.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
For anyone who wants to play at a higher level.
If you include new programs and U of Hartford as a D1 option.
124 D1 Womens Lacrosse Programs
106 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many club teams at great colleges.
Some of the clubs play at a fairly competitive level.
So many options for all and numbers are climbing.
Hopefully,the primary goal is getting an education


Thank you for posting this. Sometimes things that are posted on here don’t seem genuine or truthful. That makes me sad for those that are actually looking for advice.
They can’t answer because the complete grouping of posts were complete nonsense.
There is no reason for anyone to be to specific about them self because to many crazies would try to connect the dots to their kid. It's the anonymity that allows people to share good info and help paint an accurate picture of the lacrosse landscape. The catch 22 is the crazies also flourish with the anonymity, but there is more good than bad. Keep it up. I am a fan of more information, the trick is how you filter it.
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Did anyone hear anything about IWLCA Experience before the Dallas President's Cup?

My daughter did it. I wasn't a fan. WAY too many girls there, she never got to play in front of the coaches whose schools she was interested in. You didn't miss anything except flying in a day early to spend some extra money on a camp. My 2 cents.


Just as I thought. I saw the event listed but after we had already booked our arrangements-- thankfully. When we got back I wondered what become of it. Thanks for sharing your own experience.
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There is no reason for anyone to be to specific about them self because to many crazies would try to connect the dots to their kid. It's the anonymity that allows people to share good info and help paint an accurate picture of the lacrosse landscape. The catch 22 is the crazies also flourish with the anonymity, but there is more good than bad. Keep it up. I am a fan of more information, the trick is how you filter it.

More Nonsense
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.
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They can’t answer because the complete grouping of posts were complete nonsense.

What exactly do you believe to be Nonsense?
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

Why would you say “Obvious violation of NCAA rules.”?
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
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[quote=Anonymous]I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations[/quote

D1 reaching out an expressing interest right now in 2024?
Filling out a questionnaire off the website or at an id clinic or getting a hit on connect lax doesn’t mean they are recruiting you.
D2 and D3 different story
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations


Exactly! This is completely normal for strong players and clubs. I don’t blame the parent for not saying their name given there is someone very negative on here who doesn’t want anything about any others clubs known. If your kids team isn’t being helped with recruiting or getting coaches reaching out then put more focus on making your kids recruitable and less try to stir the pot when others are asking and answering questions.

My older daughter went through this process and is a 24 now and she also had coaches reaching out through coaches and the club and most certainly had coaches at games fall of sophomore year
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations


Exactly! This is completely normal for strong players and clubs. I don’t blame the parent for not saying their name given there is someone very negative on here who doesn’t want anything about any others clubs known. If your kids team isn’t being helped with recruiting or getting coaches reaching out then put more focus on making your kids recruitable and less try to stir the pot when others are asking and answering questions.

My older daughter went through this process and is a 24 now and she also had coaches reaching out through coaches and the club and most certainly had coaches at games fall of sophomore year

Is your 24 a sophmore in HS?
The rules for lacrosse are the most strict now because 0f what went on a few years ago.
I’m sure the very top players on the top club on LI have a pretty good idea where they stand on Sept 1 but
Rules are specific in regards to contact with coaches and clubs.
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[quote=Anonymous]I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations[/quote

D1 reaching out an expressing interest right now in 2024?
Filling out a questionnaire off the website or at an id clinic or getting a hit on connect lax doesn’t mean they are recruiting you.
D2 and D3 different story

Again, d1 is actively recruiting and expressing interests in 2024s. Just because you haven’t received interest Does not mean other kids haven’t
This is how it went down for my daughter who is a 23 and was heavily recruited on sept 1. I’m not bragging. I’m sharing info. She Emailed consistently anyone she was interested in beginning last fall. By mid June/July we knew where she stood with many on the list as they had direct contact with her club coaches many times throughout the summer season and august. They invite their highest interest to private camps all the way up till aug 30th. So. Come sept 1. She knew some who were calling and then also had some nice surprises
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations[/quote

D1 reaching out an expressing interest right now in 2024?
Filling out a questionnaire off the website or at an id clinic or getting a hit on connect lax doesn’t mean they are recruiting you.
D2 and D3 different story

Again, d1 is actively recruiting and expressing interests in 2024s. Just because you haven’t received interest Does not mean other kids haven’t


If you mean that coaches are watching and taking notes??
Of course. Sept 1 will come and the top 10 schools will have a solid idea of the recruits they want.
Plenty of time in between now and then for them to make up their minds. 2023 are still heavy
Most of the 2024 are active between now and next fall and that’s a big part of the process.
The rules are specific and strict. It’s not like it was several years ago. I can’t see a 2024 player receiving a text msg prior to Sept 1 and that not being a violation.
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I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations


Exactly! This is completely normal for strong players and clubs. I don’t blame the parent for not saying their name given there is someone very negative on here who doesn’t want anything about any others clubs known. If your kids team isn’t being helped with recruiting or getting coaches reaching out then put more focus on making your kids recruitable and less try to stir the pot when others are asking and answering questions.

My older daughter went through this process and is a 24 now and she also had coaches reaching out through coaches and the club and most certainly had coaches at games fall of sophomore year

Is your 24 a sophmore in HS?
The rules for lacrosse are the most strict now because 0f what went on a few years ago.
I’m sure the very top players on the top club on LI have a pretty good idea where they stand on Sept 1 but
Rules are specific in regards to contact with coaches and clubs.


From the NCAA website- you may need a refresher on what’s allowed.

“ In 2017, the NCAA established new rules that aim to eliminate the trend of early recruiting. USA Lacrosse and the IWLCA/IMLCA proposed this change to the rules with hopes that it would reduce all forms of early lacrosse recruiting. Before September 1of an athlete’s junior year of high school, college coaches are only permitted to communicate with a recruit’s club or high school coach, though their conversation is restricted to simple Yes or No answers to the questions, and no verbal offers can be made or suggested.”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.
The NCAA rules seem to have kept the skeptic quiet. Congrats to the girls already getting d1 looks you deserve it
From what i'm seeing on social media UNC camp was absolutely stacked..there are some top girls there i didn't know would attend. and Levy rolled out the red carpet by having the who's who of UNC alumns and national team members checking in too. looks like they all went to a bssketball game aswell? kinda an unfair advantage feels like a mini college visit as opposed to a normal boring run of the mill camp. recruiting violation? little nudge here and there perhaps?! but i mean..props to levy very smart on her part to make an impression on these girls
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.

Yeah that’s a clear violation.There is some communication allowed before 9/1 (see link below) and there are ways coaches can show who they are very interested in within the rules. There can be surprises, but contact on Sept 1st is also predictable in many cases, at least for college programs on the earlier end of recruiting filling most spots soon after 9/1.

https://www.ncsasports.org/womens-lacrosse/recruiting-rules-calendar
Not lying. My 23 daughter had a similar experience. College coach communicated thru club coach/director in early August that we would receive a call on 9/1. They called (along with many others just for info) and my daughter committed in early Sept (ACC school, it was her top school).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.

Why do you say it is a violation? Also, do you not believe that college coaches are reaching out to club directors regarding 2024 players?
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

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Katrina


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Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.

Not sure about how the rules align with the poster speaking of texting but coaches are very much allowed to text coaches and clubs about players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.

Not sure about how the rules align with the poster speaking of texting but coaches are very much allowed to text coaches and clubs about players

Not lying. I actually thought it was strange at first. But then found out that they are allowed a one way message. Meaning there can’t be a back and forth dialogue. They can request information. Duke, Yale, UNC all did this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


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Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?
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[quote=Anonymous]I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the OP is saying the colleges reached out to the coaches or directors, obviously they can’t contact any 2024 directly. That’s what I got from reading the post.

Exactly it was d1 coaches who saw her play and wanted her personally at camps or more info about her I guess. Older daughter has similar as a sophomore.

Somebody is obviously trying to make themselves seem important. Obvious violation of NCAA rules.

This is not a violation. My daughter just went through recruiting. Prior to Sept. 1, several coaches communicated with us through our club director. We knew exactly where we stood, and they knew where they stood as well. My daughter also recieved text messages from coaches asking for information. She could not have a back and forth dialog, but it is all completely within the NCAA regulations

Complete violation. Stop lying now. Schools know this isn’t allowed and wouldn’t risk it.

Not sure about how the rules align with the poster speaking of texting but coaches are very much allowed to text coaches and clubs about players


Coaches are allowed to send some things like questionnaires and camp brochures directly to players. Probably a program telling a club coach they will call a player on 9/1 is allowed. Coaches are not supposed to be telling players and club coaches exactly where someone falls on their list. There are are definitely ways for coaches to demonstrate very serious interest without breaking the rules, though. Whether some break the rules, I don't know, I'm sure it happens, but when's the last time you heard of a women's lax program being punished by the NCAA for recruiting violations? There is not big money involved like football and basketball so I doubt the NCAA cares a whole lot unless it's blatant.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


--
Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?

Enjoying the exchange here but of course sifting through the good and the bad. I have a 2024 that is active and a good player. She plays for a good club that has well documented success in recruiting that you will never see on here looking for applause. We have found the colleges to be following the rules.
Surely one or a few posts appear less than genuine but hopeful that it’s not what it appears..
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.
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College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)
Thats why so many girls settle because they dont want to be left without a dance partner. Lesser schools know this and thats why they push so hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)

60 - 80 is a relatively small net considering several thousand athletes in the class of 2024 will go on to play college lacrosse. The post said Top 50 type players so not far off. And on September 1, those top schools will not be calling 80 players. The coaches will have their recruits ranked and they will know which of their highest ranked players have a high mutual interest.

As for the “high academics”, they cast an even smaller net come September 1. They can only recruit the athletes who they can get into school. Ivy coaches reach out to clubs on players that they like to get an idea of academic credentials.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)

60 - 80 is a relatively small net considering several thousand athletes in the class of 2024 will go on to play college lacrosse. The post said Top 50 type players so not far off. And on September 1, those top schools will not be calling 80 players. The coaches will have their recruits ranked and they will know which of their highest ranked players have a high mutual interest.

As for the “high academics”, they cast an even smaller net come September 1. They can only recruit the athletes who they can get into school. Ivy coaches reach out to clubs on players that they like to get an idea of academic credentials.


Agreed but that is why the net is wider now. They need to assess which top quality players have the ability to qualify.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)

60 - 80 is a relatively small net considering several thousand athletes in the class of 2024 will go on to play college lacrosse. The post said Top 50 type players so not far off. And on September 1, those top schools will not be calling 80 players. The coaches will have their recruits ranked and they will know which of their highest ranked players have a high mutual interest.

As for the “high academics”, they cast an even smaller net come September 1. They can only recruit the athletes who they can get into school. Ivy coaches reach out to clubs on players that they like to get an idea of academic credentials.


Agreed but that is why the net is wider now. They need to assess which top quality players have the ability to qualify.

Coaches are currently looking at “prospects”, not all prospects will become “recruits”. The best programs (even if they are most selective academically) do not recruit many players.
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From what i'm seeing on social media UNC camp was absolutely stacked..there are some top girls there i didn't know would attend. and Levy rolled out the red carpet by having the who's who of UNC alumns and national team members checking in too. looks like they all went to a bssketball game aswell? kinda an unfair advantage feels like a mini college visit as opposed to a normal boring run of the mill camp. recruiting violation? little nudge here and there perhaps?! but i mean..props to levy very smart on her part to make an impression on these girls

Not a violation. Every girl in the camp (even middle school girls) were invited to buy a ticket to the basketball camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)

60 - 80 is a relatively small net considering several thousand athletes in the class of 2024 will go on to play college lacrosse. The post said Top 50 type players so not far off. And on September 1, those top schools will not be calling 80 players. The coaches will have their recruits ranked and they will know which of their highest ranked players have a high mutual interest.

As for the “high academics”, they cast an even smaller net come September 1. They can only recruit the athletes who they can get into school. Ivy coaches reach out to clubs on players that they like to get an idea of academic credentials.


Agreed but that is why the net is wider now. They need to assess which top quality players have the ability to qualify.


Exactly. When you upload your info on most schools prospect questionaire, they ask for a transcript and sometimes PSAT scores. This eliminates lots of girls at high academic schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


--
Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?

Enjoying the exchange here but of course sifting through the good and the bad. I have a 2024 that is active and a good player. She plays for a good club that has well documented success in recruiting that you will never see on here looking for applause. We have found the colleges to be following the rules.
Surely one or a few posts appear less than genuine but hopeful that it’s not what it appears..

This is what we are experiencing and the feedback we are getting from many of our friends. Nothing special about receiving an invite response in an email started by the player. It certainly doesn’t mean the school is interested. Anyone who is being told differently is being sold fake news. I’m sure the schools are compiling a list of players but please don’t panic if you aren’t receiving what is being stated here. There are so many schools and plenty of time. 2023s are still committing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


--
Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?

Enjoying the exchange here but of course sifting through the good and the bad. I have a 2024 that is active and a good player. She plays for a good club that has well documented success in recruiting that you will never see on here looking for applause. We have found the colleges to be following the rules.
Surely one or a few posts appear less than genuine but hopeful that it’s not what it appears..

This is what we are experiencing and the feedback we are getting from many of our friends. Nothing special about receiving an invite response in an email started by the player. It certainly doesn’t mean the school is interested. Anyone who is being told differently is being sold fake news. I’m sure the schools are compiling a list of players but please don’t panic if you aren’t receiving what is being stated here. There are so many schools and plenty of time. 2023s are still committing.


Nothing special about being on schools radar at this point. However, if you have sent notes to 25 target schools and have received interest from none of them so far, it is probably a sign that you are targeting a level of play too high.
For the life of me I can not understand why people have a difficult time understanding how the recruiting process works or why there is a debate about coaches reaching out to club directors regarding players that they are interested in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


--
Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?

Enjoying the exchange here but of course sifting through the good and the bad. I have a 2024 that is active and a good player. She plays for a good club that has well documented success in recruiting that you will never see on here looking for applause. We have found the colleges to be following the rules.
Surely one or a few posts appear less than genuine but hopeful that it’s not what it appears..

This is what we are experiencing and the feedback we are getting from many of our friends. Nothing special about receiving an invite response in an email started by the player. It certainly doesn’t mean the school is interested. Anyone who is being told differently is being sold fake news. I’m sure the schools are compiling a list of players but please don’t panic if you aren’t receiving what is being stated here. There are so many schools and plenty of time. 2023s are still committing.


Nothing special about being on schools radar at this point. However, if you have sent notes to 25 target schools and have received interest from none of them so far, it is probably a sign that you are targeting a level of play too high.

Lol! Way too early to make a comment like that.
Getting on the radar is what many of these girls are working at. The new rules promote it. Most or all of the schools are playing by the rules. They may be building data on 2024 but still knee deep in 2023.
D1, D2, D3, NAIA and club, so much opportunity for these girls. Going through this process should be enjoyed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is a 2024 and sent an email to her top schools before the fall tournaments started. She received this email or something similar back from several of them:


“Thanks for expressing interest in Penn State Women's Lacrosse! Per NCAA rules, we are not permitted to correspond with you at this time. Please take a minute to complete our questionnaire by clicking the link below! We look forward to your response!

https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/d2346b2f0cc5

Please join us at our Winter Clinic on January 15, 2022:
https://gopsusports.com/sports/2018/8/8/camps-w-lacros-camp-html.aspx?id=943

We Are!
Katrina


--
Katrina Geiger
Pennsylvania State University
Assistant Coach, Women’s Lacrosse
137 East Area Locker Room Building
University Park, PA 16802
C: (610)764-5370”

The recruiting director has been letting us know about the schools that have told her that they are “interested”. We’re not dense and we know that “interested” does mean that she’s been recruited. heck, they may change their minds before 9/1. It just means that they saw my kid play and they liked what they saw so far.

I’m sure others are getting the same emails as my daughter.

No one has texted her or us. She has filled out the questionnaires of her top school that are “interested” in her.

For the 2024s, is basically general interest at this point. Nothing serious.

Thank you for sharing but the email is standard for anyone sending an email to a coach. This is including the invite to the camp. It seems to be an automated response for all.
The questionaire is also standard.
Unless you are a top club and a top player, the director letting you know about schools(plural) raises a question?
What club and how much is being talked about?
We all read the rules, -basic yes or no questions.
And basic literature ect.

Seems kind of fishy that one or a few people won’t let the point go and are taking it very personal when not heard.
It this an exchange between parents or is something else going on here?

Enjoying the exchange here but of course sifting through the good and the bad. I have a 2024 that is active and a good player. She plays for a good club that has well documented success in recruiting that you will never see on here looking for applause. We have found the colleges to be following the rules.
Surely one or a few posts appear less than genuine but hopeful that it’s not what it appears..

This is what we are experiencing and the feedback we are getting from many of our friends. Nothing special about receiving an invite response in an email started by the player. It certainly doesn’t mean the school is interested. Anyone who is being told differently is being sold fake news. I’m sure the schools are compiling a list of players but please don’t panic if you aren’t receiving what is being stated here. There are so many schools and plenty of time. 2023s are still committing.


Nothing special about being on schools radar at this point. However, if you have sent notes to 25 target schools and have received interest from none of them so far, it is probably a sign that you are targeting a level of play too high.

Lol! Way too early to make a comment like that.
Getting on the radar is what many of these girls are working at. The new rules promote it. Most or all of the schools are playing by the rules. They may be building data on 2024 but still knee deep in 2023.
D1, D2, D3, NAIA and club, so much opportunity for these girls. Going through this process should be enjoyed.


If you play at a club that has existing relationship with your target schools, then it is a valid comment. Lots of girls will come onto the radar late, however, they tend to be from smaller clubs who don't have the recruiting relationships in place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches especially the coaches from the best programs (traditional top 20 type of program) are absolutely communicating their interest to clubs about the players that they want to recruit. The coaches have identified many players who they intend to recruit and they want to see if their is mutual interest. The top programs in particular want to be ready to go on September 1. They cast a very small net and they compete with the other top programs for a relatively small group of players (Under Armour Senior All-American / Top 50 type player). If the player doesn’t have any interest it is unlikely that the coach will waste their time on September 1 ( unless the player is really special).

I’m not sure why some do not believe this is happening.

Completely true. One thing I will add is that the net isn't that small at this point. A majority of the girls who they reach out to at this point won't get offers or even calls in September.

Most top programs are reaching out to 60-80 girls at this point. (Maybe even a bit more for the high academic schools who know many of their targets won't qualify.)

60 - 80 is a relatively small net considering several thousand athletes in the class of 2024 will go on to play college lacrosse. The post said Top 50 type players so not far off. And on September 1, those top schools will not be calling 80 players. The coaches will have their recruits ranked and they will know which of their highest ranked players have a high mutual interest.

As for the “high academics”, they cast an even smaller net come September 1. They can only recruit the athletes who they can get into school. Ivy coaches reach out to clubs on players that they like to get an idea of academic credentials.


Agreed but that is why the net is wider now. They need to assess which top quality players have the ability to qualify.


Exactly. When you upload your info on most schools prospect questionaire, they ask for a transcript and sometimes PSAT scores. This eliminates lots of girls at high academic schools.

What kind of academics are ivies looking for GPA wise (weighted or unweighted)? Do they want to see APs or is a high GPA good enough? And what kind of test scores (assuming schools go back to test mandatory policies)? My kid is a top team but she’s not in top half. She’s not looking to play at top D1 lax school; focusing on top academic D1 or D3 even if lax program isn’t the best.
Y’all know that getting on the “radar” after a good fall is a nice first step, but there is a looong way to go before recruiting. Let’s see how your daughter does during the season, UA, AS, summer circuit. Coaches typically watch half games, so if you’re daughter is not consistent, that can hurt. Teammates start to get very selfish at this point, so be prepared for that to. So many variables can affect the coaches decision on how to rank the recruits. Best not to stress and keep a positive attitude. My daughter had many rough patches throughout the process, lots of tears because she didn’t think she played well, but it all worked out with several top 20 offers. Good luck to all!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the life of me I can not understand why people have a difficult time understanding how the recruiting process works or why there is a debate about coaches reaching out to club directors regarding players that they are interested in.

What I can’t understand is, Why are you getting so frustrated? and what do you have to gain by convincing us?
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.
Someone commented that coaches were texting with their 2024. I posted that email response to show that these coaches know that they can not communicate directly with 2024 players beyond a general invite. Even if the college has told the club director that they are interested in a player, when the player reaches, out they all use the same wording as the email that I posted.

Like many other players, some of the schools that my daughter is interested in have expressed interest in her through her club. I truly believe that they cast a wide net, as someone put it. She may get no calls on 9/1 and girls who have not had any interest so far may end up a BC, UNC or Duke. It’s nothing serious right now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone commented that coaches were texting with their 2024. I posted that email response to show that these coaches know that they can not communicate directly with 2024 players beyond a general invite. Even if the college has told the club director that they are interested in a player, when the player reaches, out they all use the same wording as the email that I posted.

Like many other players, some of the schools that my daughter is interested in have expressed interest in her through her club. I truly believe that they cast a wide net, as someone put it. She may get no calls on 9/1 and girls who have not had any interest so far may end up a BC, UNC or Duke. It’s nothing serious right now.

Not to be an &$$ but Schools like BC, UNC and Duke which is in a different category do not cast a wide net. The reason they reach out to the club is to see if there is mutual interest. No shortage of players looking to go to these schools but they do not waste their time with a kid who is not interested.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.

Recruiting isnt an agenda pushed by one or a few, nor do clubs profit from discussions about recruiting. This conversation started as who has had interest expressed through their club or coaches, and the answer is many have. It isn't a violation, breaking of rules, etc. It is just good old recruiting and hopefully the experiences of some can help many.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.

Recruiting isnt an agenda pushed by one or a few, nor do clubs profit from discussions about recruiting. This conversation started as who has had interest expressed through their club or coaches, and the answer is many have. It isn't a violation, breaking of rules, etc. It is just good old recruiting and hopefully the experiences of some can help many.

Clubs don’t profit from recruiting? Say what?
All the hype, the promises and lies generate hope.
You are selling a dream. Telling people on a public forum that D1 colleges are reaching out to you is an attempt to gain status. The hope is that parents that are hopeful will flock to you. It could be for lessons or a spot on the B/C team but it all feeds the machine.

Also, there were multiple conversations going on and you seem to be jumping in on all trying to prove your point..

“BACK OFF WARCHILD SERIOUSLY!?!”
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.

Recruiting isnt an agenda pushed by one or a few, nor do clubs profit from discussions about recruiting. This conversation started as who has had interest expressed through their club or coaches, and the answer is many have. It isn't a violation, breaking of rules, etc. It is just good old recruiting and hopefully the experiences of some can help many.

Clubs don’t profit from recruiting? Say what?
All the hype, the promises and lies generate hope.
You are selling a dream. Telling people on a public forum that D1 colleges are reaching out to you is an attempt to gain status. The hope is that parents that are hopeful will flock to you. It could be for lessons or a spot on the B/C team but it all feeds the machine.

Also, there were multiple conversations going on and you seem to be jumping in on all trying to prove your point..

“BACK OFF WARCHILD SERIOUSLY!?!”

Love the Point Break Reference!!!!!! A classic!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.

Recruiting isnt an agenda pushed by one or a few, nor do clubs profit from discussions about recruiting. This conversation started as who has had interest expressed through their club or coaches, and the answer is many have. It isn't a violation, breaking of rules, etc. It is just good old recruiting and hopefully the experiences of some can help many.

Clubs don’t profit from recruiting? Say what?
All the hype, the promises and lies generate hope.
You are selling a dream. Telling people on a public forum that D1 colleges are reaching out to you is an attempt to gain status. The hope is that parents that are hopeful will flock to you. It could be for lessons or a spot on the B/C team but it all feeds the machine.

Also, there were multiple conversations going on and you seem to be jumping in on all trying to prove your point..

“BACK OFF WARCHILD SERIOUSLY!?!”


This is the first time I’ve commented in this discussion
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!
Joining in on this conversation late. Our daughter also has had expressed d1 interest through the club. This came both during and after tournaments as well as after camps where they reached out to coaches or the club directly about our daughter. I think some of the confusion may be coming from families who have kids who got recruited pre-covid. Things are different now than they were five years ago. Rules are still rules and d1 coaches aren’t calling our family, but they are asking about our daughter and telling our club they are interested. Timelines are different now because of covid and many coaches are being proactive to fill gaps they have from the covid recruiting classes(2021/2022)
I had a 2022 who went through fall tournaments pre-Covid and she received “general interest” after tournaments and camps. It was directed to her club coaches. Over the spring and summer during Covid she received more “general interest” from schools. It is permissible. There was no back and forth conversations with her and coaches. She did receive some questionnaires via text or Instagram DM. No conversations… just questionnaires. Once again… permissible.
However, not all interest pans out come 9/1. My daughter had some schools that had expressed interest prior to 9/1 not reach out and she had some schools who had not expressed interest reach out.
We used it as a gauge of where she fell and where to focus but understood that things are constantly changing as coaches continue to watch the girls.
Do not be alarmed if your daughter hasn’t gotten interest. It is very very early in the process for 2024s. My daughters team was a high level team and less than 50% of girls on team had interest after the fall tournaments. However they are all happily recruited today. It will work out! Good Luck to all the girls. It can be stressful but too much focusing on interest at this point makes it even more stressful than necessary! Wishing everyone in this class the best of luck!
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Joining in on this conversation late. Our daughter also has had expressed d1 interest through the club. This came both during and after tournaments as well as after camps where they reached out to coaches or the club directly about our daughter. I think some of the confusion may be coming from families who have kids who got recruited pre-covid. Things are different now than they were five years ago. Rules are still rules and d1 coaches aren’t calling our family, but they are asking about our daughter and telling our club they are interested. Timelines are different now because of covid and many coaches are being proactive to fill gaps they have from the covid recruiting classes(2021/2022)

WIth the new recruiting rules, the biggest difference is that it gives club coaches and directors much more influence on the recruiting process since only they can communicate. This is why it is more important than every to play on a well-connected club. (notice I didn't say a top-20 club). There are a couple of clubs outside the top-2 who are very well connected within the recruiting process.

At this point for most 24s, the biggest thing they need to ensure is that they are targeting schools at the right lacrosse level. I agree with a prior poster who said that if you arent receiving any feedback from any of the schools who you have reached out to, it is probably a red flag. Remember most girls from this aread who don't get any offers, the reason is that they targeted their lax ambitions too high.

If your daughter is going to any of the big xmas camps (UVA, Duke, Lacrosse Masters, XPO), they should take a hard look at where they stack up and potentially adjust their list accordingly.
Could someone explain the recruiting process for D3 academically strong schools (MIT, UChicago, Amherst, etc) and ivies? Do they typically wait to see where the top commits go first or do they go after a different pool (not top, but solid players with high GPAs) from the start? Thank you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Could someone explain the recruiting process for D3 academically strong schools (MIT, UChicago, Amherst, etc) and ivies? Do they typically wait to see where the top commits go first or do they go after a different pool (not top, but solid players with high GPAs) from the start? Thank you.

The process is different for everyone... and every school.

Be proactive, reach out to all of the coaches at the schools that your daughter is interested in not just the head coach. Ask your club coach/director, High School coach, any current players that you may know at the schools to contact the coaches about your daughter. Be persistent without being annoying.

The most important thing is to try and get on the coaches radar.... Coaches watch players and they know what and who they like but no coach gets all of their "top recruits" so they are constantly reassessing and prioritizing their recruiting lists.

Although the pool of players with the academic credentials to go to the type of schools that you mentioned is smaller than than the rest of the pool of players you are still talking about a large number of student athletes trying to get recruited.
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Could someone explain the recruiting process for D3 academically strong schools (MIT, UChicago, Amherst, etc) and ivies? Do they typically wait to see where the top commits go first or do they go after a different pool (not top, but solid players with high GPAs) from the start? Thank you.

Ivies go after the best day 1 and I believe they can have some early summer contact reference grades. The D3 high academics in general come later. At this point almost every year the vast majority are D1 recruits and the D2’s and D3’s start to pop as spring HS lacrosse season ends. There are some lacrosse website compilers that bare that out. You can however be way more aggressive with D3’s even before D1 9/1 date. If that’s best fit get there and get daughter to get coach to want her.
A big part of the connections is made through coaches and recruiting directors. Another big piece of connections is where each recruiting classes predecessors land. For 2024s, that be the 23s. The 2023s will stick in coaches minds when looking into the 24s, the 24s for 25s etc.

YJ 2023:
Coastal
Pace
Brown
Hofstra
Cortland
Fairleigh Dickenson
High Point
Delaware
Binghamton
ASU
SB
Stanford
Florida
Lafayette
UMass Lowell
ECU
LIU
Yale
ND
BC

Jesters 2023:
Siena
Marist
Virginia Tech
Pace
Binghamton
Loyola
Jacksonville
UMass
BC
Syracuse

Liberty 2023:
Marist
Hofstra
Quinnipiac
U Chicago
Binghamton
Molloy

I don't see legacy online but they definitely have some.

Top Guns 2023:
Tampa
Binghamton
Villanova
ECU
Hofstra
Loyola
Georgetown
Stanford
Duke
UNC
UVA

91 2023:
Dominican College

Recon 2023:
None

Icon 2023:
None
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Could someone explain the recruiting process for D3 academically strong schools (MIT, UChicago, Amherst, etc) and ivies? Do they typically wait to see where the top commits go first or do they go after a different pool (not top, but solid players with high GPAs) from the start? Thank you.

Ivies go after the best day 1 and I believe they can have some early summer contact reference grades. The D3 high academics in general come later. At this point almost every year the vast majority are D1 recruits and the D2’s and D3’s start to pop as spring HS lacrosse season ends. There are some lacrosse website compilers that bare that out. You can however be way more aggressive with D3’s even before D1 9/1 date. If that’s best fit get there and get daughter to get coach to want her.

Agree. My 2020 daughter's experience was ivies recruit as early as other D1 programs. She committed in 9th before the rule change and was contacted by some ivies early. I don't recall any D3 schools reaching out, I presume because she didn't pursue any and also because she was off the table before they started recruiting her class. A few of her friends went D3 or visited D3 schools. Some schools have admissions screening the summer before senior year and not all of the recruits makes it through. Some want junior year transcripts and test scores before offering, so it's June/July after junior year for commitments at the earliest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Love the advice. We see many 2022 girls still committing.
Colleges are in deep with 2023. 2024s don’t stress b/c it’s a long road ahead. Washington and Lee is having an ID camp and only 2022 and 2023 are invited. What does that tell you? There are several that are doing the same. Just because they allow you doesn’t mean they are looking at you. Enjoy the ride and don’t rush it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately, there seems to be a fair amount of confusion, misinformation and some odd agendas at play.

Nobody is being "recruited" right now. College coaches are however in the process of evaluating players and identifying who they believe to be the athletes that can help their program win games.

For the most part right now it will be the coaches from the best college programs that are reaching out to the Club Directors from the clubs that the players they like play for.

The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit.

Coaches want the best players but most coaches can not get them so when they realize that they can't get a player they move down their list.

College coaches recruit "players" they do not recruit "Clubs" that said, if your daughter is fortunate enough to play for one of the stronger clubs top team she will get more exposure than players on lower tier teams and less established clubs.

For those of you from Long Island the sooner that you realize lacrosse doesn't start and end on Long Island the better off you will be, there are good players from all over the country. There is always a lot of talk about the Top 20 or so programs and The Ivy's and Most selective schools (obviously some are one and the same).
Most years you will see less than 30 student athletes from Long Island commit to Top 20 lacrosse and Top 20 academic schools total (5 or 6 to Ivys and maybe 20 or so to Top 20 lacrosse schools a couple of which are Ivy's).

The Top players (20 - 30 from LI) will know where they stand long before September 1. Most players however will not know where they stand until after September 1st.

Don't get all worked up and stressed right now, it's a long process.

Thank you for posting.
Just like most of us have been saying, don’t believe the agenda being pushed by one or a few,,
They are probably looking to profit from the hype.
Dont get all worked up or stressed, it’s a long process and nobody is being recruited at this point.
College coaches recruit “players” not “clubs”
Plenty of opportunities for all of the girls.

Recruiting isnt an agenda pushed by one or a few, nor do clubs profit from discussions about recruiting. This conversation started as who has had interest expressed through their club or coaches, and the answer is many have. It isn't a violation, breaking of rules, etc. It is just good old recruiting and hopefully the experiences of some can help many.

Clubs don’t profit from recruiting? Say what?
All the hype, the promises and lies generate hope.
You are selling a dream. Telling people on a public forum that D1 colleges are reaching out to you is an attempt to gain status. The hope is that parents that are hopeful will flock to you. It could be for lessons or a spot on the B/C team but it all feeds the machine.

Also, there were multiple conversations going on and you seem to be jumping in on all trying to prove your point..

“BACK OFF WARCHILD SERIOUSLY!?!”

Love the Point Break Reference!!!!!! A classic!!

Plenty of great quotes from that cult classic-
Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true.

So don’t hesitate..2024 should be working to get noticed but don’t sweat if you aren’t getting what some are describing here. Early attention from an email invite to a college ID camp comes to anyone who makes contact. That is the job of many of these assistant coaches.
Spring and summer is the hot time for 2024 but sept 1 is not the end all. Still seeing 2022 commiting and colleges a looking hard at 2023. It’s a long road so enjoy it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.

I agree , colleges recruit ‘players’ not ‘clubs’. It’s up to the girls to do the work and reach out to the schools. Schools are slowly collecting data on the sophmore class.
The post about some schools only letting 2022 and 23 at this point is interesting. I have seen that a few times also.
For anyone looking to play at a higher level post high school, so many great options. Programs at every level being added every day. It has to be the fastest growing sport and especially for women with Title 9. The first goal would be to get an education but why not have fun at the same time. Lacrosse may open up some doors for you so be diligent.
By 2024,,
124 D1
107 D2
294 D3
42 NAIA
Also, many clubs teams at great colleges. Some of them play at a high level. So, girls who don’t want to make the commitment can still play while getting an education.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.

I agree , colleges recruit ‘players’ not ‘clubs’. It’s up to the girls to do the work and reach out to the schools. Schools are slowly collecting data on the sophmore class.
The post about some schools only letting 2022 and 23 at this point is interesting. I have seen that a few times also.

The best clubs have lots of players. Watch the top schools go watch a girl and see handful of others they could recruit. Your quote about not recruiting clubs isn’t entirely true.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.

I agree , colleges recruit ‘players’ not ‘clubs’. It’s up to the girls to do the work and reach out to the schools. Schools are slowly collecting data on the sophmore class.
The post about some schools only letting 2022 and 23 at this point is interesting. I have seen that a few times also.

The best clubs have lots of players. Watch the top schools go watch a girl and see handful of others they could recruit. Your quote about not recruiting clubs isn’t entirely true.

Obviously college coaches are going to watch the top club teams but they will "recruit" the player, not the club. Players on the top club teams will get more exposure especially to the stronger college programs but even on most the top club teams only a 5-7 players will receive offers from the top college programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.

I agree , colleges recruit ‘players’ not ‘clubs’. It’s up to the girls to do the work and reach out to the schools. Schools are slowly collecting data on the sophmore class.
The post about some schools only letting 2022 and 23 at this point is interesting. I have seen that a few times also.

The best clubs have lots of players. Watch the top schools go watch a girl and see handful of others they could recruit. Your quote about not recruiting clubs isn’t entirely true.

I agree with you point about exposure but…
If you aren’t seeing the field u aren’t being seen, getting game experience or having any fun.
If your daughter is not getting playing time in the majority of game at tournaments you should be raising heck with the coach / director. This is pay to play and college coaches are on the sideline watching. College coaches could care less about who wins playing time should be close to equal in most games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK people, you should all chill on the recruiting conversation. It’s going to be a different journey for every single girl! Some will get interest quickly and others it will take time.

The important time will be this Spring/Summer as far as getting “seen” by the coaches. The girls should be pro active on their recruiting accounts. Make sure to get some highlights up and questionnaires filled out to the schools they are interested in. Then reach out to all the schools/ coaching staff that they are interested in, right before each Spring/Summer event with their game schedule. Ask club director/recruiting director/coach to reach out on your behalf as well. Especially, if you know one of your preferred colleges will be attending event.

Good luck to all! Be pro-active now and keep going. 9/1 date is not the be all , end all for offers. For most girls, it will not be 9/1 offers. Keep the dream alive and many doors will open. Hopefully, everyone ends up in a place where they can thrive on many levels. Lacrosse can help open doors that may have been closed! Good luck!

Thank you.. Rules seem to slow down the process and clubs are less involved early on. Prior to rule changes so many girls would commit super early.
The clubs websites would show all the young girls and the verbal commits. It was a way to generate hype and get younger players to hopefully come to their club. This all meant $$.
Rules have changed. The recruiting is pushed back so that the girls can play and enjoy Youth and HS sports more . Now clubs try to generate news in other ways. You can see some of it on this site. Like saying schools have reached out to them and making them look special.
2024 Girls need to keep working hard to get on the colleges radar. It’s so early. Plenty of time to be seen and don’t sweat it. 2022 are still commiting and colleges are deeply involved in 2023 at the moment.


I really don't think that this has anything to do with clubs. In my experience while some schools are swtill on other classes the next class is of interest to top programs.

I agree , colleges recruit ‘players’ not ‘clubs’. It’s up to the girls to do the work and reach out to the schools. Schools are slowly collecting data on the sophmore class.
The post about some schools only letting 2022 and 23 at this point is interesting. I have seen that a few times also.

The best clubs have lots of players. Watch the top schools go watch a girl and see handful of others they could recruit. Your quote about not recruiting clubs isn’t entirely true.

I agree with you point about exposure but…
If you aren’t seeing the field u aren’t being seen, getting game experience or having any fun.

Exactly. Look at YJ, TG bottom of roster.
Sorry my original post about the club not mattering wasn’t in terms of the club having some pull in recruiting but that 24s being actively looked at is not a story told by clubs. It is very real and happening all fall and winter. Being on a good club team is extremely important. Schools they’ve been able to recruit to, amount of kids per team getting recruited, the skills being taught to players so they are recruitable. Better clubs make recruiting easier. If you’re on a weaker club team you can still get recruited if you’re a good player it’s just much harder without a good program name and connections backing you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A big part of the connections is made through coaches and recruiting directors. Another big piece of connections is where each recruiting classes predecessors land. For 2024s, that be the 23s. The 2023s will stick in coaches minds when looking into the 24s, the 24s for 25s etc.

YJ 2023:
Coastal
Pace
Brown
Hofstra
Cortland
Fairleigh Dickenson
High Point
Delaware
Binghamton
ASU
SB
Stanford
Florida
Lafayette
UMass Lowell
ECU
LIU
Yale
ND
BC

Jesters 2023:
Siena
Marist
Virginia Tech
Pace
Binghamton
Loyola
Jacksonville
UMass
BC
Syracuse

Liberty 2023:
Marist
Hofstra
Quinnipiac
U Chicago
Binghamton
Molloy

I don't see legacy online but they definitely have some.

Top Guns 2023:
Tampa
Binghamton
Villanova
ECU
Hofstra
Loyola
Georgetown
Stanford
Duke
UNC
UVA

91 2023:
Dominican College

Recon 2023:
None

Icon 2023:
None

Actually a little surprised by the apparent lack of players committing to Top 20 type programs as well as lack of kids committing to for lack of a better term high academic schools. I would speculate that you do not have every 23 from the island but even so I thought we would see at least a few more go to the top programs as well as top academic schools.

This does not bode well for Long Island players or for your point that college coaches will look to the clubs they recruited from for the class of 2023 as a some sort of guide to what clubs they will recruit from for the 24s, 25's etc...

Most of the Top Programs are done or close to being done with their 23's and unfortunately Long Island appears to be under represented. I count 14 top tier lacrosse programs and another 3 top tier academic schools that are not top tier lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter is not getting playing time in the majority of game at tournaments you should be raising heck with the coach / director. This is pay to play and college coaches are on the sideline watching. College coaches could care less about who wins playing time should be close to equal in most games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter is not getting playing time in the majority of game at tournaments you should be raising heck with the coach / director. This is pay to play and college coaches are on the sideline watching. College coaches could care less about who wins playing time should be close to equal in most games.

Don’t play for an elite team then. The coaches want to see the best players not all players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter is not getting playing time in the majority of game at tournaments you should be raising heck with the coach / director. This is pay to play and college coaches are on the sideline watching. College coaches could care less about who wins playing time should be close to equal in most games.

Don’t raise heck. The coach probably gave your daughter a chance to stay and be on a good team even though she isn’t as good as the top players. Take her to a club where she has a bigger role.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry my original post about the club not mattering wasn’t in terms of the club having some pull in recruiting but that 24s being actively looked at is not a story told by clubs. It is very real and happening all fall and winter. Being on a good club team is extremely important. Schools they’ve been able to recruit to, amount of kids per team getting recruited, the skills being taught to players so they are recruitable. Better clubs make recruiting easier. If you’re on a weaker club team you can still get recruited if you’re a good player it’s just much harder without a good program name and connections backing you.

Who said the smaller or newer clubs don’t have the connections? All have connections from playing the game and also being recruited themselves…
some have college coaching experience and some are HS coaches.

Some of these clubs only care about the top girls or girls going to top schools that they can brag about on their websites. In this instance the HS coaches end up playing a.more prominent role.The club will always take credit despite sometimes doing nothing.

I agree with being with a top club early on and getting the best possible training but ok to move later on in order to get playing time.
Clubs still want to win and have politics so playing time/role is never equal. Many of these girls on the best teams get the pleasure of playing with the best in practice but very little game reps. This hurts their development and confidence….and exposure come now.

Plenty of good trainers around to help you sharper your game and get you ready. Some of them only train sooo have no conflict of interest issues and have plenty of connections to help recruits.
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

All valid points. But no need to panic but Schools are not done with 2023s. Girls are still committing daily and for some will go well into the summer and fall...
Top academic D3 do not settle until very late. LI kids will be going there for sure but won’t see it yet. A few of the high academic D3 are running camps and only inviting 2022 and 2023.

Not sure why one club is constantly trying to sell fake news. Do they think people will read and want to jump to them?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.
I would like to hear your insight on this comment that you made: "The recruiting process is not the same for all players nor is it the same for all coaches/programs. The North Carolina Coach and the players that UNC recruits will have a much different experience than the coaches at a mid-tier program and the players that they recruit."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

This seems like a naive post. Of course connections matter in lax as they do in every area of life. Connections will help you get seen, even if you’re not ultimately given a spot. It at least gives you exposure when you have your club coaches vouching for you. It’s like getting interviews at top companies. Doesn’t mean you’ll get the offer but often, even getting an interview is hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.

Yes but many of the clubs on LI don’t help with the high academic D1 and certainly not the D3 high academic. The D3 high academic are too long of a process. The clubs want to market themselves immediately and can’t wait to put it up on their website. Many of these clubs may do a good job of developing talent but it’s extremely political. The politics are tough to navigate the entire time. When it comes to recruiting they only care about themselves. They look at the top girls and ignore from Middle to back of their roster and forget the B, C and D teams. Despite the fact the marketing plan is to fill a B team and that’s where they make their money they could give a garbage about them when it comes recruiting time. Some will publicize the garbage out of every aspect of the prospect just to get you thinking you need them or you should be unhappy where you are.

Ivy and NESCAC rosters have a lot girls from all over and especially prep schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.

Yes but many of the clubs on LI don’t help with the high academic D1 and certainly not the D3 high academic. The D3 high academic are too long of a process. The clubs want to market themselves immediately and can’t wait to put it up on their website. Many of these clubs may do a good job of developing talent but it’s extremely political. The politics are tough to navigate the entire time. When it comes to recruiting they only care about themselves. They look at the top girls and ignore from Middle to back of their roster and forget the B, C and D teams. Despite the fact the marketing plan is to fill a B team and that’s where they make their money they could give a garbage about them when it comes recruiting time. Some will publicize the garbage out of every aspect of the prospect just to get you thinking you need them or you should be unhappy where you are.

Ivy and NESCAC rosters have a lot girls from all over and especially prep schools.

Ok these are valid points. So is it better to keep an ok but not stud kid on an A team that plays in the best brackets or put them in a B team where they won’t even get looks because coaches assume they weren’t good enough to be on the A team? I’d rather my kid be with the best players so she can try to get better, but I empathize with them when they’re barely seeing the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.

You obviously do not understand how recruiting works, especially at the Ivy's and Stanford...

1 - There are many players on all teams at all levels who will never see the field.

2 - There are "average" players on all "average" teams which Harvard and Yale are.

3 - The average players at program like Princeton are there because they have incredible grades it's not because they have connections. Apparently you are not familiar with how the Academic Index works. Im sure Stanford has to balance out their recruiting class as well i.e. If Stanford's Number 1 recruit has a 92 GPA with a 29 ACT the coach will most likely need to bring in a recruit with significantly higher grades and test scores (just using random numbers, I do not know what Stanfords minimums are for athletes are) but I am pretty sure that the coach can not bring in 10 recruits all with minimum numbers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

This seems like a naive post. Of course connections matter in lax as they do in every area of life. Connections will help you get seen, even if you’re not ultimately given a spot. It at least gives you exposure when you have your club coaches vouching for you. It’s like getting interviews at top companies. Doesn’t mean you’ll get the offer but often, even getting an interview is hard.

The post is not naive at all. The post states "Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent." That venue is the exposure that you refer to at that point the coaches get to watch the kid play and they recruit based on the players athleticism and ability not because they know the club director. The analogy to a job interview is not apples to apples, it would be very rare for the employer/interviewer to be able to actually go and watch the potential hire perform. When a coach goes to watch a team play they see all of the players on the field, not just the ones someone asks them to look at.

Always funny to listen to how everything is about connections and political.... some of you believe that everything from UA to IL rankings to college recruiting is BS and political.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.

You obviously do not understand how recruiting works, especially at the Ivy's and Stanford...

1 - There are many players on all teams at all levels who will never see the field.

2 - There are "average" players on all "average" teams which Harvard and Yale are.

3 - The average players at program like Princeton are there because they have incredible grades it's not because they have connections. Apparently you are not familiar with how the Academic Index works. Im sure Stanford has to balance out their recruiting class as well i.e. If Stanford's Number 1 recruit has a 92 GPA with a 29 ACT the coach will most likely need to bring in a recruit with significantly higher grades and test scores (just using random numbers, I do not know what Stanfords minimums are for athletes are) but I am pretty sure that the coach can not bring in 10 recruits all with minimum numbers.


This. Stanford has two "exemptions" per class -- girls who don't count towards AI numbers. The rest need top grades -- needs to average out to an AI of around 3.85 unweighted with 1420 SAT. So for every recruit below that, you need one higher.
Exactly, it’s not about connections. It’s about their athletic/lacrosse ability as well as their academic credentials.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ouch!! on the comment about LI not being represented well on top D1 or high academic. .Some of the info is Iinaccurate and skewed. Somebody put a lot of time into collecting this data but seems obvious what they are trying to do…with
one of the better clubs is barely mentioned and some of the smaller clubs that generally has a few D1 recruits isn’t mentioned either..
Plus some girls on not great clubs get help from HS coaches or trainers and that isn’t represented here.
I think the point was to say certain clubs are better than others but all clubs, HS Coaches and trainers have connections. Some of the colleges know about the politics with the clubs and would rather deal with HS coaches. Clubs charge a tremendous amt of money for their guidance and aren’t always necessary.
Too clubs only have so much band width to help everyone. Too Guns and YJ have been doing this for a very long time and still are turning out great recruiting classes. And this is despite everyone trying to poach their players.. A fair amount of other clubs top recruits were these girls.
If you look at D1 rosters Long Island is still a hot bed and well represented but generally does more in the Northeast or eastern seaboard. Players are coming from all over and this trend will continue which is great for the sport.

I keep reading about "connections", do you really believe recruiting is about connections? College coaches want the best players that they can get, they want players who can help their team compete. College coaches are not offering spots to players based on connections or what club the athlete plays for.

If the data that was presented is accurate at all it proves the point that college coaches go everywhere for their recruits, they do not simply go to certain clubs where they might have a connection. That is not to say that club affiliation is not important or that the clubs have no role in the recruiting process. Clubs provide a venue for players to compete/perform and for coaches to watch in order to evaluate and identify talent. The fact of the matter is that it's really about the player, not the particular club especially when looking at the most competitive college programs.

Connections absolutely help some girls get recruited. Especially onto high end academic schools. Look at the rosters for schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Harvard, etc. You will see many names of girls who are average players with big connections. These girls will never see the field, and don’t care.

You obviously do not understand how recruiting works, especially at the Ivy's and Stanford...

1 - There are many players on all teams at all levels who will never see the field.

2 - There are "average" players on all "average" teams which Harvard and Yale are.

3 - The average players at program like Princeton are there because they have incredible grades it's not because they have connections. Apparently you are not familiar with how the Academic Index works. Im sure Stanford has to balance out their recruiting class as well i.e. If Stanford's Number 1 recruit has a 92 GPA with a 29 ACT the coach will most likely need to bring in a recruit with significantly higher grades and test scores (just using random numbers, I do not know what Stanfords minimums are for athletes are) but I am pretty sure that the coach can not bring in 10 recruits all with minimum numbers.


This. Stanford has two "exemptions" per class -- girls who don't count towards AI numbers. The rest need top grades -- needs to average out to an AI of around 3.85 unweighted with 1420 SAT. So for every recruit below that, you need one higher.

Having a billionaire dad with a big name in the lax community can’t hurt either!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly, it’s not about connections. It’s about their athletic/lacrosse ability as well as their academic credentials.

The connections don't get you an offer, but they give you quicker and more honest feedback which is vital in a recruiting search, especially for a girl who isn't an UA 150 girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly, it’s not about connections. It’s about their athletic/lacrosse ability as well as their academic credentials.

The weaker Ill connected clubs go to weaker tournaments and attract less coaches on sidelines: facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly, it’s not about connections. It’s about their athletic/lacrosse ability as well as their academic credentials.

The connections don't get you an offer, but they give you quicker and more honest feedback which is vital in a recruiting search, especially for a girl who isn't an UA 150 girls.

The connections do help get coaches to games an an upper hand if there are two equal players fighting over a spot on a roster.
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.
Ivy and NESCAC rosters have a lot girls from all over and especially prep schools.[/quote]

Ok these are valid points. So is it better to keep an ok but not stud kid on an A team that plays in the best brackets or put them in a B team where they won’t even get looks because coaches assume they weren’t good enough to be on the A team? I’d rather my kid be with the best players so she can try to get better, but I empathize with them when they’re barely seeing the field.[/quote]

Just my opinion but define ok kid. Stud can play anywhere and get noticed. Earlier somebody asked how recruitment process different for some and how/why. Studs know by early summer their phone blowing up 9/1 and only tears shed are over which top school they score not if.
Ok kid playing say at least 1/3 of games? If not that’s really bad imo and a move maybe warranted. If playing day a 1/3 are they getting it done to an acceptable level of just surviving or say scoring empty net goals as 9th attacker fed from top 10 mid in nation?
The sooner you embrace reality the better it will be. Get on another solid A team or a Very good B with a top franchise. There are many with a couple on Long Island and tons elsewhere like Heroes M@D M&D untied Steps etc etc…
My point is you gotta PLAY! Most top players train outside travel so practices should be team concepts and game speed not catching ability.
PLAY! Many kids sit bench for years on top teams only to sit bench on top HS teams into say junior year. Lack of actual playing hinders their growth on the game field regardless of their abilities on the wall or backyard b-T-b’s.
I bet you’d be surprised how many very good players populate a few lesser franchise A teams and top travel B teams. Imo the kids playing game in game out at or just above their level and getting it done game after game do much better than being in the TOP Teams leaning on their sticks summer after summer and high school season after high school season.
Sooner or later they’ll have to perform in front of a college coach they want to impress whether at a tourney or a prospect camp. Sitting the bench all those summers won’t help and even if more schools at their games they don’t recruit if you aren’t playing.
Best luck all kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ivy and NESCAC rosters have a lot girls from all over and especially prep schools.

Ok these are valid points. So is it better to keep an ok but not stud kid on an A team that plays in the best brackets or put them in a B team where they won’t even get looks because coaches assume they weren’t good enough to be on the A team? I’d rather my kid be with the best players so she can try to get better, but I empathize with them when they’re barely seeing the field.[/quote]

Just my opinion but define ok kid. Stud can play anywhere and get noticed. Earlier somebody asked how recruitment process different for some and how/why. Studs know by early summer their phone blowing up 9/1 and only tears shed are over which top school they score not if.
Ok kid playing say at least 1/3 of games? If not that’s really bad imo and a move maybe warranted. If playing day a 1/3 are they getting it done to an acceptable level of just surviving or say scoring empty net goals as 9th attacker fed from top 10 mid in nation?
The sooner you embrace reality the better it will be. Get on another solid A team or a Very good B with a top franchise. There are many with a couple on Long Island and tons elsewhere like Heroes M@D M&D untied Steps etc etc…
My point is you gotta PLAY! Most top players train outside travel so practices should be team concepts and game speed not catching ability.
PLAY! Many kids sit bench for years on top teams only to sit bench on top HS teams into say junior year. Lack of actual playing hinders their growth on the game field regardless of their abilities on the wall or backyard b-T-b’s.
I bet you’d be surprised how many very good players populate a few lesser franchise A teams and top travel B teams. Imo the kids playing game in game out at or just above their level and getting it done game after game do much better than being in the TOP Teams leaning on their sticks summer after summer and high school season after high school season.
Sooner or later they’ll have to perform in front of a college coach they want to impress whether at a tourney or a prospect camp. Sitting the bench all those summers won’t help and even if more schools at their games they don’t recruit if you aren’t playing.
Best luck all kids[/quote]

My daughter played on a top team, a great player but was not started in some games due to politics in my opinion. Why do I say this? She did not do all the “suggested” clinics. Yet she was put in when we were in championships?? She did get recruited by several top teams and is committed. So many strange shenanigans go on behind the scenes, you have no idea. I am so happy to be done with this, but am extremely sympathetic to the girls still in the recruiting process. It’s all so stressful. Please be careful and know that you are the only one who knows best for your daughter!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ivy and NESCAC rosters have a lot girls from all over and especially prep schools.

Ok these are valid points. So is it better to keep an ok but not stud kid on an A team that plays in the best brackets or put them in a B team where they won’t even get looks because coaches assume they weren’t good enough to be on the A team? I’d rather my kid be with the best players so she can try to get better, but I empathize with them when they’re barely seeing the field.

Just my opinion but define ok kid. Stud can play anywhere and get noticed. Earlier somebody asked how recruitment process different for some and how/why. Studs know by early summer their phone blowing up 9/1 and only tears shed are over which top school they score not if.
Ok kid playing say at least 1/3 of games? If not that’s really bad imo and a move maybe warranted. If playing day a 1/3 are they getting it done to an acceptable level of just surviving or say scoring empty net goals as 9th attacker fed from top 10 mid in nation?
The sooner you embrace reality the better it will be. Get on another solid A team or a Very good B with a top franchise. There are many with a couple on Long Island and tons elsewhere like Heroes M@D M&D untied Steps etc etc…
My point is you gotta PLAY! Most top players train outside travel so practices should be team concepts and game speed not catching ability.
PLAY! Many kids sit bench for years on top teams only to sit bench on top HS teams into say junior year. Lack of actual playing hinders their growth on the game field regardless of their abilities on the wall or backyard b-T-b’s.
I bet you’d be surprised how many very good players populate a few lesser franchise A teams and top travel B teams. Imo the kids playing game in game out at or just above their level and getting it done game after game do much better than being in the TOP Teams leaning on their sticks summer after summer and high school season after high school season.
Sooner or later they’ll have to perform in front of a college coach they want to impress whether at a tourney or a prospect camp. Sitting the bench all those summers won’t help and even if more schools at their games they don’t recruit if you aren’t playing.
Best luck all kids[/quote]

My daughter played on a top team, a great player but was not started in some games due to politics in my opinion. Why do I say this? She did not do all the “suggested” clinics. Yet she was put in when we were in championships?? She did get recruited by several top teams and is committed. So many strange shenanigans go on behind the scenes, you have no idea. I am so happy to be done with this, but am extremely sympathetic to the girls still in the recruiting process. It’s all so stressful. Please be careful and know that you are the only one who knows best for your daughter![/quote]

There is no doubt that politics has a great impact on this sport and some situations are worse that others. I guess it’s easy to ignore or deny when you are benefitting from it. If your kid is lights out it makes it easier but surely it’s never smooth sailing. I always tried to avoid parent head coaches as best I could but any parent coach can be a problem especially if their kid plays your kids position. Who’s training who and money exchanges also make it complicated. Some would say that this is how the world works but doesn’t mean it’s ok. We are talking about youth sports and a game. Heart breaking sometimes.
At what point is it not about politics and connections? When will some of you realize that you are not able to objectively evaluate your daughters athleticism or lacrosse ability? Since my oldest went through the process I have been hearing the same nonsense... 'it's the friends and family network", "her father is connected", "it's all political", "Daddy Coach", "pay to play", "she got the look because of her father" "her Coach / Director did nothing to help" etc... We are now talking about recruiting, we are talking about college coaches (top division I coaches in particular) and the athletes they recruit. Do you really believe that it's all political? Do you really believe that a coach can consistently field a competitive team by offering spots to the friends and family network or to politically connected players? It's bad enough when you complain about politics at the 6th grade level and who makes the YJ "A" Team, it gets worse when you complain about how political Under Armour Underclass / American Select is or how the Inside Lacrosse rankings are political but now we are talking about college recruiting and you still want to push the narrative that it's all about who you know. Give me a break, if your daughter gets on the field and plays in front of a coach at a tournament, camp, clinic, showcase or whatever and the coach is not interested it's not political, it's because the coach does not believe that your daughter can help the coaches program compete or the coach has other players ranked higher on their list.

The best college programs do an excellent job at identifying and recruiting the best players. How do I know this? I know it because they consistently win, they consistently outperform the rest of the programs and they do it because they have better players. Sorry, but Maryland gets better players than Marist, Carolina gets better players than Cornell, Boston College gets better players than Boston University etc... that's just reality, it's not about connections or politics it's about talent. BTW, it doesn't take a college coach very long to identify the players that they like, they can tell in a few minutes if the kid can play but remember, there are other players out there and the coach might believe the other players are stronger. The recruiting process will let you know just where your daughter stands in relation to other players. It's not about politics, connections, pay to play etc... it's about the athlete and her ability.
This
Politics are at play in every walk
Of life!! A lot of times who you know, opens more doors than what! It starts young in youth sports as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Politics are at play in every walk
Of life!! A lot of times who you know, opens more doors than what! It starts young in youth sports as well.

Just how many "political" spots do you believe college coaches are giving out? Most of the top programs usually bring in 8 or 9 players per year spots are very limited, they need to bring in the best players that they can. Believe what you will but there is not a lot of politics going on here.
At the end of the day the better clubs play better tournaments against better teams and better coaches are attracted to those games. That’s why many teams are stuck on the bleachers trying their best to grow their programs but can’t manage to get past the barriers that have been created over time
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!
Yes but the main thing is playing time.....your daughter needs to be on the field playing to be seen. It's that simple. I don't care what team you are on or what tournament you are at if you are on the sidelines for the majority of the game you're on the wrong team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.

Thank u for sharing and being honest. We are navigating well but takes a lot of effort to avoid the nonsense. You have to good and lucky. Lax world had some really good people and some shameless snakes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Politics are at play in every walk
Of life!! A lot of times who you know, opens more doors than what! It starts young in youth sports as well.

Just how many "political" spots do you believe college coaches are giving out? Most of the top programs usually bring in 8 or 9 players per year spots are very limited, they need to bring in the best players that they can. Believe what you will but there is not a lot of politics going on here.

Maybe not for the very top players who get in on pure talent. However, when you get to the next level after the top talent where way more girls fall, the talent is pretty similar and this is where politics come into play. Because, you could switch any number of girls that are all similar in talent level. Then it really does help in “who you know” and connections for this group! Which is most!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.

Oh brother…. “Threading the needle” c’mon , really?

The post that you responded to said “some of you will never get it” and “it’s not always about connections and politics “. The post did not say “there are never politics involved “ .

The reality is that there are a lot of delusional parents out there who think that their daughter is way better than she is.

You didn’t give a single example of the “insane politics” or any of the “garbage” that went on.

There are parents of players who will not get any interest from a single Top 20 caliber program and they will blame it on politics. It’s not all about politics.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


Please explain what you watched and what was astounding... " watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on."

How did all of "those deserving players getting shafted"?

Please enlighten us on "the big picture and how it all works".

This is women's lacrosse we are talking about, a sport that provides more opportunity for female athletes than any other sport. There are few to no players that "even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle." There are more spots available than there are talented athletes to fill the spots.
Compare the number of girls from Long Island who go on to play lacrosse in college to any other sport, the numbers are not even close.

It is very rare for a player "amazing skill and talent" to be overlooked, very few of the best players get passed on by the Top 15 - 20 Programs.

There are obviously a lot of parents who believe their daughter to be better than she actually is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.

I do not recall anyone saying that all recruits in a recruiting class "have equal ability or potential". Why are you jumping from "politics and connections" to athletic scholarships? Most lacrosse players are not "walk on's, they are recruited athletes. A true "walk on" is someone who is not recruited but is enrolled at the school and gets a "tryout". Why would you bring the following into the discussion "There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money"? It's out of left field and not relevant to the topic, and I do not think people are pretending it doesn't happen?

BTW, there is no shortage of parents in the lacrosse world who could care less about the cost of university, If coaches were willing to offer a spot to a kid just because the parents were wealthy you would see programs like Duke, Princeton, Stanford etc... have 100 + girls on the roster.

There are not many political appointees or spots for wealthy families on college rosters especially at the more competitive programs. As far as your reference to talent level at Top 10, Top 20 and Sub top 20 programs the reality is that the the vast majority of players at the top programs are stronger than the players at less competitive programs. You will not find many players on non traditional top 20 rosters that would be able to see meaningful playing time at the programs like the ones listed above. If that were not the case, we would see more parity and it would not be the same 15 or so programs always in the Top 20.

Boston College has 5 Freshmen on the roster, how many are there because of politics? Are there no politically connected people who want their daughter to play at BC? Are there no wealthy families who want their kid to play at BC?

All of this nonsense is nothing more than an excuse or self defense mechanism used by parents to explain why their kid didn't receive an offer. Over the years I have heard many excuses i.e. "the club director did nothing to help", "her HS coach is useless", "that school only recruits kids that go to their camp", "They took the other girl because she plays for YJ", "That coach only recruits tall girls" etc... the list goes on and on....
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Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.

There are a lot of local teams with an entire roster of midfielders which screws kids too because they may play, but not where they shine.
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Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.

There are a lot of local teams with an entire roster of midfielders which screws kids too because they may play, but not where they shine.

Oh brother.
Entire team of middies?
C’mon in 3rd grade sure but as time goes on the vast majority are born out as not middies. If your kid can run and is st least competent with their stick they’ll get yo be a middie. Eventually you’ll have a team of 14 attackers by 9th grade
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Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.

I do not recall anyone saying that all recruits in a recruiting class "have equal ability or potential". Why are you jumping from "politics and connections" to athletic scholarships? Most lacrosse players are not "walk on's, they are recruited athletes. A true "walk on" is someone who is not recruited but is enrolled at the school and gets a "tryout". Why would you bring the following into the discussion "There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money"? It's out of left field and not relevant to the topic, and I do not think people are pretending it doesn't happen?

BTW, there is no shortage of parents in the lacrosse world who could care less about the cost of university, If coaches were willing to offer a spot to a kid just because the parents were wealthy you would see programs like Duke, Princeton, Stanford etc... have 100 + girls on the roster.

There are not many political appointees or spots for wealthy families on college rosters especially at the more competitive programs. As far as your reference to talent level at Top 10, Top 20 and Sub top 20 programs the reality is that the the vast majority of players at the top programs are stronger than the players at less competitive programs. You will not find many players on non traditional top 20 rosters that would be able to see meaningful playing time at the programs like the ones listed above. If that were not the case, we would see more parity and it would not be the same 15 or so programs always in the Top 20.

Boston College has 5 Freshmen on the roster, how many are there because of politics? Are there no politically connected people who want their daughter to play at BC? Are there no wealthy families who want their kid to play at BC?

All of this nonsense is nothing more than an excuse or self defense mechanism used by parents to explain why their kid didn't receive an offer. Over the years I have heard many excuses i.e. "the club director did nothing to help", "her HS coach is useless", "that school only recruits kids that go to their camp", "They took the other girl because she plays for YJ", "That coach only recruits tall girls" etc... the list goes on and on....

Wealthy connected people want their kid at Penn, Princeton, Stanford, Duke. Not BC
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Wow, some of you will never get it. Or should I say you will never admit that your opinion of your daughters lacrosse abilities may not be accurate. It’s not always about connections and politics.

I can attest from a different perspective. From a perspective that is not “sour grapes” or from some overlooked player, or parent of. A perspective from a player (parent) who made all the teams, made all the lists and was one of the most highly recruited in her age group. And absolutely YES, the politics are insane. All the quotes you dismiss above, are at play and hard. My daughter had her choice pretty much anywhere she wanted to go, heavily recruited but never had a political push behind her. Can’t complain because it simply could not have worked out better for her, but seeing and watching all the garbage that went on with a good number of players around her, it really is astounding what goes on. We were very lucky to rise above it all, but I certainly see some of those deserving players getting shafted, and I certainly see the friends and family or head scratchers as you call them. If you think it is a level playing field, and that there are no politics at play, then you have no clue of the big picture and how it all works. Even with amazing skill and talent, kids still need a little luck threading the needle. Good Luck to anyone still having to go through it.


That was our experience as well. There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise. They will never see the field. Connections!!

Here we go again, another delusional parent spewing nonsense.

You state: "There are at least 2-3 players on all the top programs recruiting class that should not be there talent wise." That statement is not accurate at all. The top programs bring in on average 8 recruits per year, do you really believe that the coaches are bringing in 3 of the 8 because of connections and or politics? If that was even close to being true, the "top programs" would not be the top programs for very long.

The best programs are the best programs because they get the best players.

Below are arguably the 10 best programs in the country, these 10 programs are the only programs that finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in each of the past 8 seasons (obviously Penn & Princeton did not compete in 2021). Some of the other top programs would include Notre Dame, Penn State, Duke, JMU, Loyola, Stanford, USC. (i'm guessing the numbers would be similar at these programs.

Below is the number of Freshmen on each teams current roster.

5 - Boston College
8 - North Carolina
7 - Northwestern
10 - Maryland
7 - Syracuse
8 - Princeton
8 - Virginia
10 - Penn
7 - Florida
8 - Stony Brook

Sorry, coaches are not handing out 2 or 3 of their very limited spots to connected players. Coaches are trying to win and they need to bring in the best players in order to do that.

Your comment: "They will never see the field." is pointless, there are players at every program at every level that will never see the field... not really sure what your point was?

The bottom line is that many parents make up excuses as to why their kid didn't get "Ranked" or "make a team" and now many want to use the same excuses as to why their daughter did not get recruited or offered a spot.

Mostly agree, but players in a recruiting class never come in all with equal ability and potential. Not even at the top schools listed above. It's not like every single player on a top 10 program is better than every single player on a top 10-20 roster, or even every player on sub top 20 roster. Keep in mind that some players get very little or no athletic money. Each team gets 12 scholarships and some rosters are 40+ and some are not fully funded. The math doesn't lie even though most lacrosse parents won't admit if their child is technically a walk on or getting minimal money. There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money, and it's really no one else's business. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that if you can afford it, but the pretending by some that this isn't happening gets annoying. There is no level playing field for anything in life. Focus on what you can control. There are most definitely some cases where players get offered spots because of family prestige and/or connection to school, but that doesn't mean coaches are passing on a better player because the "political offer" is made without much or any scholarship money (if the player is not actually of the caliber to get money at that program).

As far as club and coach connections - yeah, these can be helpful in getting on a coaches radar, but there plenty of players who get offers at top schools and playing time without that. I seriously doubt a top 20 coach is going to pass on a stronger player to appease a club director or coach, even for a top club like YJ. The bigger hurdle is getting on their radar to begin with, but it can be done if the player is good enough. The purpose of club lacrosse is recruiting, so rosters should be 18-20 and playing time should be fairly equal. Players getting limited playing time on their club team need to find a team where they will have more opportunity to be seen in action by coaches.

I do not recall anyone saying that all recruits in a recruiting class "have equal ability or potential". Why are you jumping from "politics and connections" to athletic scholarships? Most lacrosse players are not "walk on's, they are recruited athletes. A true "walk on" is someone who is not recruited but is enrolled at the school and gets a "tryout". Why would you bring the following into the discussion "There are most definitely players getting spots because they are willing to accept no money"? It's out of left field and not relevant to the topic, and I do not think people are pretending it doesn't happen?

BTW, there is no shortage of parents in the lacrosse world who could care less about the cost of university, If coaches were willing to offer a spot to a kid just because the parents were wealthy you would see programs like Duke, Princeton, Stanford etc... have 100 + girls on the roster.

There are not many political appointees or spots for wealthy families on college rosters especially at the more competitive programs. As far as your reference to talent level at Top 10, Top 20 and Sub top 20 programs the reality is that the the vast majority of players at the top programs are stronger than the players at less competitive programs. You will not find many players on non traditional top 20 rosters that would be able to see meaningful playing time at the programs like the ones listed above. If that were not the case, we would see more parity and it would not be the same 15 or so programs always in the Top 20.

Boston College has 5 Freshmen on the roster, how many are there because of politics? Are there no politically connected people who want their daughter to play at BC? Are there no wealthy families who want their kid to play at BC?

All of this nonsense is nothing more than an excuse or self defense mechanism used by parents to explain why their kid didn't receive an offer. Over the years I have heard many excuses i.e. "the club director did nothing to help", "her HS coach is useless", "that school only recruits kids that go to their camp", "They took the other girl because she plays for YJ", "That coach only recruits tall girls" etc... the list goes on and on....

Wow, you're really sensitive about this subject and reading a lot into my post. My point is money is not distributed equally and it's a balancing act for coaches with only 12 scholarships. Players who are willing/able to take a spot with no money will have some opportunities they would not otherwise have, especially if they can get on a coach's radar through some connection. The argument was made that no coach would waste a spot on a player for reasons other than lacrosse ability, but they have some wiggle room to do so. Coaches know there will be some drop off in every class and not every recruit will turn out to be a key contributor. I'm not suggesting they are taking players who are not good and are significantly off in talent and skill from the team as a whole; and yes, some parents make complain and make excuses instead of being realistic.
It's the name on the back of the jersey that gets recruited, not the front. It's that simple! There is one common thread I see parents complaining about. It's the clubs' fault, the parents have paid $2000+ per year expecting that produces a lacrosse scholarship at the end of the rainbow. The clubs are only a part of the training/learning. All the successful lacrosse players work away from the clubs to improve. The girls need to work on skills, conditioning, etc, etc. The club time is only 1/4 or less it takes to become a real good player. This is obvious on every decent club team in the country, the girls that put in the time are the better players. A few club tournaments and 25 practices a year isn't enough to make anyone good enough. I feel silly having to type this, but the excuses on this site are endless.
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It's the name on the back of the jersey that gets recruited, not the front. It's that simple! There is one common thread I see parents complaining about. It's the clubs' fault, the parents have paid $2000+ per year expecting that produces a lacrosse scholarship at the end of the rainbow. The clubs are only a part of the training/learning. All the successful lacrosse players work away from the clubs to improve. The girls need to work on skills, conditioning, etc, etc. The club time is only 1/4 or less it takes to become a real good player. This is obvious on every decent club team in the country, the girls that put in the time are the better players. A few club tournaments and 25 practices a year isn't enough to make anyone good enough. I feel silly having to type this, but the excuses on this site are endless.

Agree with your point about endless excuses…

Not only do they come up with crazy reasons why their daughter did not receive an offer from a particular school/schools, they will come up with reasons why other players did receive offers from those schools…
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It's the name on the back of the jersey that gets recruited, not the front. It's that simple! There is one common thread I see parents complaining about. It's the clubs' fault, the parents have paid $2000+ per year expecting that produces a lacrosse scholarship at the end of the rainbow. The clubs are only a part of the training/learning. All the successful lacrosse players work away from the clubs to improve. The girls need to work on skills, conditioning, etc, etc. The club time is only 1/4 or less it takes to become a real good player. This is obvious on every decent club team in the country, the girls that put in the time are the better players. A few club tournaments and 25 practices a year isn't enough to make anyone good enough. I feel silly having to type this, but the excuses on this site are endless.

Agree with your point about endless excuses…

Not only do they come up with crazy reasons why their daughter did not receive an offer from a particular school/schools, they will come up with reasons why other players did receive offers from those schools…

Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....
The recruiting process is where it all shakes out, coaches watch the players play, they evaluate the players and they identify the prospects that they might decide to recruit and maybe extend an offer to. They watch players at tournaments, camps, clinics, showcases etc... they make list and they rank and prioritize the players and then they recruit the players they like, it's really that simple. All of the complaining and complaining, all of the carrying on about politics, connections, friends and family, money, pay to play, all of the tearing down of rankings, lists, all-star teams, players, clubs etc.... will continue through the recruiting process but it is all nonsense. The best athletes/players will be recruited by the best programs and then it will trickle down by level... It is rare that a top tier player is overlooked by all of the top programs. Parents and players will know where they stand by the level of programs that make offers.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's the name on the back of the jersey that gets recruited, not the front. It's that simple! There is one common thread I see parents complaining about. It's the clubs' fault, the parents have paid $2000+ per year expecting that produces a lacrosse scholarship at the end of the rainbow. The clubs are only a part of the training/learning. All the successful lacrosse players work away from the clubs to improve. The girls need to work on skills, conditioning, etc, etc. The club time is only 1/4 or less it takes to become a real good player. This is obvious on every decent club team in the country, the girls that put in the time are the better players. A few club tournaments and 25 practices a year isn't enough to make anyone good enough. I feel silly having to type this, but the excuses on this site are endless.

Agree with your point about endless excuses…

Not only do they come up with crazy reasons why their daughter did not receive an offer from a particular school/schools, they will come up with reasons why other players did receive offers from those schools…

Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....[/quote]

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.[/quote]


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.[/quote]


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.[/quote]

The only parents that set me off are the parents who try to tear down or diminish players, clubs, teams, accomplishments, achievements, accolades, college commitments etc…

They are delusional.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.[/quote]

The only parents that set me off are the parents who try to tear down or diminish players, clubs, teams, accomplishments, achievements, accolades, college commitments etc…

They are delusional.[/quote]


Agreed. Every accomplishment no matter what level its at should be applauded. As stated previously there is a fit for every girl who wants to play at the next level. I just enjoy watching my daughters play and honestly dont care what "level" they play at in college.....and both of my daughters are considered very good. These years are going to be gone in an instant so soak them in people.
All you can do as a parent is find a club giving you the best resources in terms of recruiting, tournaments, training, etc. other than that, it’s about if your kid is happy there. If you can land a really solid non parent coach as well, congrats!

My daughter is in college now and my experiences with Long Island clubs has taught me that the “rumors” about a few clubs aren’t really rumors. They hold true time and time again. At this point, unless you do have a personal connection to trainers, directors, or coaches you’re kind of stuck where you are unless you’re a stud. Make the best of the team you chose because they only have two more years. If you made a mistake in the team you chose to spotlight your kid, that’s on you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.[/quote]

The only parents that set me off are the parents who try to tear down or diminish players, clubs, teams, accomplishments, achievements, accolades, college commitments etc…

They are delusional.[/quote]

You are part of the problem if those are the only parents that bother you. The parents obsessed with top 20 and going on about the superiority of every last roster spot, turning up their noses at players who end up at “lesser” schools for lax and/or academics, is also wrong. That parent is just as annoying as the delusional parent making excuses.

The previous post is spot on. Relax and help your daughter enjoy playing and the recruiting process as much as possible, find the right fit and choose a school for the right reasons. Help her foster a good team culture with her teammates, and do the same as a parent with the other parents. It’s a lot more enjoyable that way, trust me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.

The only parents that set me off are the parents who try to tear down or diminish players, clubs, teams, accomplishments, achievements, accolades, college commitments etc…

They are delusional.[/quote]

You are part of the problem if those are the only parents that bother you. The parents obsessed with top 20 and going on about the superiority of every last roster spot, turning up their noses at players who end up at “lesser” schools for lax and/or academics, is also wrong. That parent is just as annoying as the delusional parent making excuses.

The previous post is spot on. Relax and help your daughter enjoy playing and the recruiting process as much as possible, find the right fit and choose a school for the right reasons. Help her foster a good team culture with her teammates, and do the same as a parent with the other parents. It’s a lot more enjoyable that way, trust me.[/quote]

Those stuck in weaker programs will see what we’re all mentioning come to light in the next year. Let them live in their delusions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone on here care about the girls having fun and going to a school that THEY like ? Remember its girls lacrosse and after their 4 years at a "top" school they are left with the same 4 year degree that the girls who went to a "sub" top 20 school have. Man I really got to say that I truly feel bad for some of your daughters......Life is going to throw enough garbage at them all on its own so let them enjoy this time and their college experience. They dont need the extra pressure of having daddy or mommy live through them to pound their chest and say " Look at my daughter" !!! Be proud of them and stay in the background....

Most of the parents that I know hope that lacrosse will help their daughter get into the best school possible. I think everyone wants their daughter to find the best fit so that they will be happy and have fun along the way. That said, there is nothing wrong with setting goals, giving your best and shooting for the stars. I have one that was unhappy and transferred after a semester and is now extremely happy at the new school (and might not ever see the field). Two very different schools, both very good academic schools and teams but just very different college experiences. This sport can provide opportunity to so many girls of all levels but there is nothing wrong with wanting to go to a great school or to go play for a great lacrosse program many of which are one and the same.


Thats not what i was saying. I am referring to the parents who act like that is all that matters. If their kid doesnt go to one of the top 20 schools than it doesnt matter. Those are the parents I am referring to. If you are being honest then you have to agree that the majority of the parents commenting on this site and topic come off way to aggressive about "having" to go to a top 20 school. Setting goals, looking to better yourself etc...is all good and expected if that is what your daughter wants.

The only parents that set me off are the parents who try to tear down or diminish players, clubs, teams, accomplishments, achievements, accolades, college commitments etc…

They are delusional.[/quote]

You are part of the problem if those are the only parents that bother you. The parents obsessed with top 20 and going on about the superiority of every last roster spot, turning up their noses at players who end up at “lesser” schools for lax and/or academics, is also wrong. That parent is just as annoying as the delusional parent making excuses.

The previous post is spot on. Relax and help your daughter enjoy playing and the recruiting process as much as possible, find the right fit and choose a school for the right reasons. Help her foster a good team culture with her teammates, and do the same as a parent with the other parents. It’s a lot more enjoyable that way, trust me.[/quote]

Everyone has different dreams and goals but there is absolutely nothing wrong with putting education first. It’s not a simple formula and as parents we can guide them but the child must be happy. Title 9 has created so many opportunities for these girls. So many places to play. Shoot for a high branch and see where you land. Plenty of time and sept 1 is not the end all for most. Spring and summer will be busy but enjoy it. Lax can open some doors for you but it’s just a game and should be enjoyed.

Keep it classy BOTC
Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.[/quote

25s put 24s to shame?! Why even say that? Are you on the wrong forum? Perhaps a YJ parent ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.[/quote

25s put 24s to shame?! Why even say that? Are you on the wrong forum? Perhaps a YJ parent ?

I actually wish that YJ didn't go. They have a team mentality in these events and refuse to pass to or work with kids from other clubs. I hope that's transparent to coaches seeing the YJ kids only pass to one another even if another kid is wide open.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.[/quote

25s put 24s to shame?! Why even say that? Are you on the wrong forum? Perhaps a YJ parent ?

There were some girls that really shouldnt have been there. One girl couldnt even catch a ball.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.[/quote

25s put 24s to shame?! Why even say that? Are you on the wrong forum? Perhaps a YJ Spalina parent ?

There were some girls that really shouldnt have been there. One girl couldnt even catch a ball.

Thanks for such a meaningful post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone that attended the winter showcase at stony brook, how was it?

It is unfortunate that it started as invite only to top kids by their clubs but was then posted on social media and given out through emails to every player. If they were trying to to target top players they did not. A handful of kids from weaker clubs that did not impress. Some top 2024s for sure there, ones that make those teams and lists types of kids...then there was a drop of of kids who clearly are not used to playing against good competition. The 25s put some of the 24s to shame. Letting everyone attend kind of ruined it for the more talented players who signed up under the impression it was invite only to the top talent on the Island.[/quote

25s put 24s to shame?! Why even say that? Are you on the wrong forum? Perhaps a YJ Spalina parent ?

There were some girls that really shouldnt have been there. One girl couldnt even catch a ball.

Thanks for such a meaningful post.[/quote
The event was ok. A chance to play, but I do agree that it should not have been open to everyone. The fact that they started as what seemed to be invite only and then opened it must mean it didn’t draw enough attention from the top talent so they had to back track. Leaving it open to everyone allowed weaker girls in. Hard to gauge whose actually talented and play at a high level when girls are playing against weaker players. Keeping it at top A players would have been more meaningful with the ability to see whose able to play against the better competition.
It is always the same girls that shine. This is perfect marketing for the top 24's and 25's.
The number 1 overall player in a given class is usually pretty clear. The rest of the top 10 is a crapshoot. 11-50 ish are the best of the rest. after that there is a significant drop off. and that's being generous. cutoff is usually closer to 30. It makes sense that the same girls will shine because they are simply better than the rest of the competition. The talent pool is not deep enough for top players to be facing off against players on their level on a consistent basis. I'd argue let the weaker girls in so they can gauge their skill against top talent. Thats the only way they'll become better players and improve, even though the top players won't benefit from it. Then again, do they really need to? No matter what they'll have top D1 scholarships waiting
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.


Good question! YJB goalie going to Stanford, YJA UMass. Neither TG black goalie is committed yet. This is for the 23’s
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.

Daughter is 23 D whose team sits at the bottom of a good league. Always getting beat by powerhouses and she literally has no power to go over the line and help score. So we sat at D for a few long years while she sharpened her teeth.
Now she is one of the only ones on her team to be committed to a T20 team. It all works out in the end.
Some of the top teams who we considered moving to- their D never gets to sharpen their skills. Those girls are uncommitted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.
The number 1 2023 player was an attack. Went to NC.
Goalies should be going to camps with lots of game play. Play the commits and get lots of saves vs great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Goalies should be going to camps with lots of game play. Play the commits and get lots of saves vs great players.

Issue for goalies is that when they are on a weaker teams playing weaker competition the shots, even if there are more, are weak shots and not compatible to what those goalies would be seeing in college. A goalie on a top tier team will still see shots because they are playing other top tier teams. Look at the AU pro games goalies saw crazy amounts of shots and those are the top female players.

This goes for players too. You need to be on the better teams to get more exposure. It doesn’t mean you need to be a top 10 team, but you certainly can’t be a bottom of the barrel team and hope someone shows up to see you. The recruiting for you if you’re on those weaker teams will be on you to take initiative instead of your team itself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.


Good question! YJB goalie going to Stanford, YJA UMass. Neither TG black goalie is committed yet. This is for the 23’s

Wow!!! nice win there for the young lady.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.


Good question! YJB goalie going to Stanford, YJA UMass. Neither TG black goalie is committed yet. This is for the 23’s

Wow!!! nice win there for the young lady.

At the top academic schools it’s not Lacrosse & athletic ability are not enough, the student athlete must also have exceptional academic credentials. Northwestern is probably the only top tier academic school where the coach can bring in whoever she wants but it is my understanding that she does not like to bring in players who have not demonstrated that they work hard in the classroom. It doesn’t help the student or the program if the athlete can’t keep up in the classroom. Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Hopkins do not have the same latitude with admissions as NU.
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

As a GK parent, if you have a great team, you’re not seeing many shots… but on the flip side you’re getting great exposure bc of that team. Usually have to go down to maryland (prepared as heck) to face some shots. Wonder if sometimes better off being on a B team. Curios if any other GK parents on the board who could share their experience.


Good question! YJB goalie going to Stanford, YJA UMass. Neither TG black goalie is committed yet. This is for the 23’s

Wow!!! nice win there for the young lady.

At the top academic schools it’s not Lacrosse & athletic ability are not enough, the student athlete must also have exceptional academic credentials. Northwestern is probably the only top tier academic school where the coach can bring in whoever she wants but it is my understanding that she does not like to bring in players who have not demonstrated that they work hard in the classroom. It doesn’t help the student or the program if the athlete can’t keep up in the classroom. Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Hopkins do not have the same latitude with admissions as NU.


I hear you, the Ivies and a handful of others like Stanford, player generally has to be able to get into the school with exceptional academic credentials
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

Here is how the Ranked players actually did in college... Below is how the Inside Lacrosse 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls did in college. This is the HS Graduating Class of 2016 I choose this class because they have just finished their college careers.

Inside Lacrosse only ranked 30 players in the class of 2016.

There were at least

24 Players became starters and or a regular player who played in every game, generally one of the 13 - 15 players who play every game.

14 All-Conference

11 All-Americans

14 Team Captains

3 or 4 who never developed into a regular and played in a reserve role

2 or 3 season / career ending injuries.

The players who are ranked in general, do not quit, they go to the best college programs and have very good college careers.
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

Here is how the Ranked players actually did in college... Below is how the Inside Lacrosse 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls did in college. This is the HS Graduating Class of 2016 I choose this class because they have just finished their college careers.

Inside Lacrosse only ranked 30 players in the class of 2016.

There were at least

24 Players became starters and or a regular player who played in every game, generally one of the 13 - 15 players who play every game.

14 All-Conference

11 All-Americans

14 Team Captains

3 or 4 who never developed into a regular and played in a reserve role

2 or 3 season / career ending injuries.

The players who are ranked in general, do not quit, they go to the best college programs and have very good college careers.

I see 16 who started at perennial top 15-20 programs and some of those players did so in spite of a season ending injury in their career. A handful started at programs not as highly ranked and a couple transferred to those schools before seeing much playing time. I see at least 12 on the watch list who started at top programs and had very notable careers. These lists correctly identify a lot of eventual top college players, but they are a snapshot in time and high school is not college.
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.

Slower yes. Smaller no, I don't think size is a major factor unless you are talking very small and frail. Speed and overall athleticism is probably differentiator, that's why there are so many delusional parents, they don't understand that in order to compete at the highest level the player has to be able to move, they need to be able to keep up with the pace of play. When a coach looks at two players with similar lacrosse skill and IQ they will go with the more athletic/faster/quicker athlete more times than not.
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

Every year when IL Rankings come out there are people like you who mock the rankings / players.

The reality is that IL does a very good job. To piggy back a couple of previous posts, here is how the 2015 Top 30 and Watch List did in college.

26 colleges were represented.
16 - 17 were traditional Top 20 Programs.
6 - 7 were programs that are in the next tier, they are very competitive and Top 20 from time to time.
Harvard, Brown, Vanderbilt & Louisville have not been top 20 recently I believe.

48 became "regulars/starters" they play in every game.
24 earned All-Conference.
16 earned All-American.
23 named Captain.
7-8 played a reserve role.
5-6 may have had career ending injuries.

Obviously the numbers may be off by 1 or 2 but you get the idea.

Good Job Inside Lacrosse and Congratulations to the players.
When will colleges choose when their summer camps will take place (and when will they post that info)? Will colleges have any camps anytime between February and May or does that not happen because it's their college season?
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.


I meant more that IL tends to overvalue 5-9 plus girls, especially at attack.

Slower yes. Smaller no, I don't think size is a major factor unless you are talking very small and frail. Speed and overall athleticism is probably differentiator, that's why there are so many delusional parents, they don't understand that in order to compete at the highest level the player has to be able to move, they need to be able to keep up with the pace of play. When a coach looks at two players with similar lacrosse skill and IQ they will go with the more athletic/faster/quicker athlete more times than not.
What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!
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[quote=Anonymous]It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.


I meant more that IL tends to overvalue 5-9 plus girls, especially at attack. When i think of the 2 or 3 girls who didn't make this list that I thought should , they are all undersized attackers and middies who dominated at UA/American Select.
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[quote=Anonymous]It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.


I meant more that IL tends to overvalue 5-9 plus girls, especially at attack. When i think of the 2 or 3 girls who didn't make this list that I thought should , they are all undersized attackers and middies who dominated at UA/American Select.

Just curious - What do you consider “undersized”? Height or weight-wise?
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[quote=Anonymous]It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

More nonsense, obviously from someone who knows very little. I’m sure you are one of the delusional parents who knock the rankings when your daughter is not recognized. The actual facts prove that the large majority of IL Young Gun Seniors ( top 30 & top 40 IL had changed the numbers a few times) go on to the most competitive college Programs (many wold say the best programs Carolina, Maryland, BC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, ND, PSU, Loyola, USC, Stanford) and have very good college careers and by the way those are excellent schools as well. Stony Brook and JMU are two of the best programs but do not get many of those ranked players. Denver has been making a case for themselves to be considered a consistent Top 20 program as well not sure how many ranked players they get.

The coaches at the best college programs seem to identify the same players as Inside Lacrosse so I will go with their assessment and evaluation.

Haters gonna detest, and bash and try to diminish the rankings every year but all of the attempts to tear down will not elevate their daughters ability in the eyes of college coaches or anyone else for that matter.

BTW , no koolAid…. Just an observation of reality and how the players have performed during their college careers .

Congratulations to all who are recognized.


Agreed all players listed are very talented as are many players who didn't make the list. I think where alot of the debate comes in is people arguing over past performance versus college potential.

I've noticed that IL tends to reward players with great physical attributes who have a ton of upsided much more than players who dominated high-level club but may be a bit smaller or slower.


I meant more that IL tends to overvalue 5-9 plus girls, especially at attack. When i think of the 2 or 3 girls who didn't make this list that I thought should , they are all undersized attackers and middies who dominated at UA/American Select.

Honestly, it never ends…. Overvalued 5’ 9” plus girls…

So now you believe that evaluators are basing their rankings on the size of the player?

Why does it always have to be something other than ability? Politics, connections, $$$, club affiliation, size etc…

How about the people at Inside Lacrosse just believe these are the best players after watching the players play.
I think a lot of these comments come from disgruntled YJ ‘23 players. Most toxic rivalry. Only YJ team not #1 on LI, and never beat TG. Interesting that both teams had two players in top 20. Jesters had one who was at traditional TG player, but after she left TG got a #1 ranking. She definitely elevated Jesters and helped some of those girls get recruited. Legacy also has a few very good girls. I’m sure many of them will make the 4 star list
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I think a lot of these comments come from disgruntled YJ ‘23 players. Most toxic rivalry. Only YJ team not #1 on LI, and never beat TG. Interesting that both teams had two players in top 20. Jesters had one who was at traditional TG player, but after she left TG got a #1 ranking. She definitely elevated Jesters and helped some of those girls get recruited. Legacy also has a few very good girls. I’m sure many of them will make the 4 star list

The comments come every year or every time there is a ranking put out. There are many parents who simply can not honestly assess their daughters ability or athleticism. It doesn’t matter what Club their daughter plays for YJ, TG, Elevate, Liberty, Jesters, Legacy etc… if their daughter is on the “A” team many believe they are a top tier player. The reality is most players, even the ones on the “A” teams are not going to be recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by College Coaches at high level programs. That doesn’t mean that they are not good players or that they will not get recruited it just is what it is.
Can you bring your 23 drama somewhere else? Like maybe I don’t know…. The 2023 thread
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I think a lot of these comments come from disgruntled YJ ‘23 players. Most toxic rivalry. Only YJ team not #1 on LI, and never beat TG. Interesting that both teams had two players in top 20. Jesters had one who was at traditional TG player, but after she left TG got a #1 ranking. She definitely elevated Jesters and helped some of those girls get recruited. Legacy also has a few very good girls. I’m sure many of them will make the 4 star list

The comments come every year or every time there is a ranking put out. There are many parents who simply can not honestly assess their daughters ability or athleticism. It doesn’t matter what Club their daughter plays for YJ, TG, Elevate, Liberty, Jesters, Legacy etc… if their daughter is on the “A” team many believe they are a top tier player. The reality is most players, even the ones on the “A” teams are not going to be recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by College Coaches at high level programs. That doesn’t mean that they are not good players or that they will not get recruited it just is what it is.

Very true. It’s also important to recognize that the ultimate prize is being recruited to a great program. A dream school your daughter would most likely not haven’t gotten into without lacrosse. That is the only list that really matters!
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What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!

Sorry -Not completely true. Regardless of size of what ever else you are talking about. One or a few didnt and don’t dominate. Head scratchers.
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What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!

Sorry -Not completely true. Regardless of size of what ever else you are talking about. One or a few didnt and don’t dominate. Head scratchers.


Really? Who? You have no idea what you’re talking about. Sounds like sour grapes. All the attackers mentioned were the top scorers/ performers throughout the season. Fact
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What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!

Sorry -Not completely true. Regardless of size of what ever else you are talking about. One or a few didnt and don’t dominate. Head scratchers.

And there you have it.... "Head scratchers" the know it all parent who believes they know it all....

Congratulations to all who were recognized, the players and parents who should be proud of the honor.
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I think a lot of these comments come from disgruntled YJ ‘23 players. Most toxic rivalry. Only YJ team not #1 on LI, and never beat TG. Interesting that both teams had two players in top 20. Jesters had one who was at traditional TG player, but after she left TG got a #1 ranking. She definitely elevated Jesters and helped some of those girls get recruited. Legacy also has a few very good girls. I’m sure many of them will make the 4 star list

The comments come every year or every time there is a ranking put out. There are many parents who simply can not honestly assess their daughters ability or athleticism. It doesn’t matter what Club their daughter plays for YJ, TG, Elevate, Liberty, Jesters, Legacy etc… if their daughter is on the “A” team many believe they are a top tier player. The reality is most players, even the ones on the “A” teams are not going to be recognized by Inside Lacrosse or by College Coaches at high level programs. That doesn’t mean that they are not good players or that they will not get recruited it just is what it is.

Very true. It’s also important to recognize that the ultimate prize is being recruited to a great program. A dream school your daughter would most likely not haven’t gotten into without lacrosse. That is the only list that really matters!
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What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!

Sorry -Not completely true. Regardless of size of what ever else you are talking about. One or a few didnt and don’t dominate. Head scratchers.


You should offer your help to evaluate these top players. And you can’t include your own kid!
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What do you mean by overvalue? Every girl on that list whether 5’9” or 5’4” was chosen because they dominated on the summer circuit as well as the invite events they attended. Who did they miss? Your daughter? Here we go again!

Sorry -Not completely true. Regardless of size of what ever else you are talking about. One or a few didnt and don’t dominate. Head scratchers.

And there you have it.... "Head scratchers" the know it all parent who believes they know it all....

Congratulations to all who were recognized, the players and parents who should be proud of the honor.

Lol
Sounds like you fit the criteria
I believe we are in a similar circumstance. I assume she was a middie and probably plays middie on HS/other team(s).

May I ask, what position did your daughter sign up/try out for at the college camps and select regional teams/showcases?.
Not sure why everyone puts so much emphasis on AU/UA /AS and other regional select events. In our experience, some and in some circumstances many of the best kids do not make these teams. Some that make these teams ultimately decline playing in them as well for various reasons. The evaluators and coaches all have different agendas and mouths to feed. Until they consistently prove they have an unbiased evaluation and selection process they can't be considered best of the best and used as a baseline barometer of top talent. They need to pay evaluators that have no skin in the game instead of a melting pot of club & school coaches.
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Not sure why everyone puts so much emphasis on AU/UA /AS and other regional select events. In our experience, some and in some circumstances many of the best kids do not make these teams. Some that make these teams ultimately decline playing in them as well for various reasons. The evaluators and coaches all have different agendas and mouths to feed. Until they consistently prove they have an unbiased evaluation and selection process they can't be considered best of the best and used as a baseline barometer of top talent. They need to pay evaluators that have no skin in the game instead of a melting pot of club & school coaches.

They do it every year , it’s called the recruiting process and the college coaches are the evaluators. The coaches at the best college coaches consistently identify the best players and the vast majority of the best players end up choosing to go to the programs that consistently finish the season ranked in the Top 10 - 20. It really is a very simple process…. Watch players compete, identify the players you believe to be the best, recruit & make offers to those players, hopefully sign those players and repeat the process the following year Not very difficult to understand.
I love the sour grapes about UA and AS don't mean anything, but the kicker is the quote "in our expierence". WOW, the post must be from a top college coach, hahahaha. This parent (or amazing D1 coach) must think there are secret meetings held around the country to choose what girls should be named to these all-star teams without considering their exceptional talent from tons of hard work and determination. I guess it costs the parents at least $80,000 in cash sent to a secret address to "make these teams". Once these secret lists of girls are assembled and made public via lets say an Under Armour all-american team, the girls magically become the top lacrosse players in the country simply by being put on an all-american list. The conspiracy continues as all the top women's lacrosse programs in the country ignore the countless tournament games and film they review to find the best talent in the country. I guess we should believe they only pick the girls written on the all-american lists without using their own judgement, it's not like their jobs depend on it. The scam continues via the NCAA only allowing teams with these "chosen ones" into the championship tournament. The real amazing part is how many of these chosen ones end up on the winning chamionship teams just from a secret conspiracy at the high school ranks.
Can 2023 parents please head back to their thread this is annoying at this point
Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!
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Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!
Agree with this. This is a 2024 thread as our daughters begin the recruiting process and not bashing other clubs would be a great start. There are parents on here that are not from LI if you can believe that and we do not care about the politics in your area. If you had an older daughter and have something of value to add that is great, but let's keep it to current opportunities for 2024's. Many parents are just trying to navigate the process and bounce ideas off other parents and egt feedback on camps and clinics.
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Can 2023 parents please head back to their thread this is annoying at this point

Oh yeah what if I’m a 2033 parent just gearing up for this as my kid scored 71 goals in PAL last spring and had 8 shutouts with 114 draw controls!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree with this. This is a 2024 thread as our daughters begin the recruiting process and not bashing other clubs would be a great start. There are parents on here that are not from LI if you can believe that and we do not care about the politics in your area. If you had an older daughter and have something of value to add that is great, but let's keep it to current opportunities for 2024's. Many parents are just trying to navigate the process and bounce ideas off other parents and egt feedback on camps and clinics.

Take it or leave it…. From someone who has been through it multiple times.

1 - Do not rely on Club (use the club as a resource but do not rely on them) reach out to anyone you know who might have a relationship with a coach at a school that your daughter is interested in (club director, club coach, Hs coach, current/former player at the school etc…)

2 - Identify and list a number of schools that your daughter would like to attend (and play lacrosse).
I would recommend going on the NCAA Lacrosse website, go to rankings, select RPI (you will see all of the schools that have Varsity Lacrosse. You can do it for DI, II and III. I would start with a large number.

2 - Develop a plan and help your daughter “market” herself to the schools. Email each coach (head coach as well as assistant coaches at each school) introducing herself and expressing her interest in the school and the program. Be persistent without being obnoxious / annoying. Update the coaches from time to time making them aware of what events she will be at, new film available, etc…

3 - make sure that your daughter understands that coaches look at things other than scoring a goal.
- always hustle off the field, never react negatively to a teammate I.e. if she gives a perfect pass to her teammate and she drops it do not react in a negative way. If she is a middlie be sure to hustle back ( sprint) to get on defense (it’s okay to trail the play when going on offense, it’s not okay to jog back to play defense). If she plays attack redefend with as much if not more effort than when going to the goal. If she is a defender slide with conviction, talk/communicate and never show dejection if she gets beat 1v1 . Teach her that it is the next play that matters just like a goalie. Every goalie let’s in shots and every defensive player gets beat.

Stay positive when her team is losing, fight harder when things are not going well, encourage her teammates when they make a bad play, pat them on the back, pick them up. Fight like heck for ground balls.

Make the right play I.e. if the right thing to do is move the ball then move the ball… if the right thing to do is clear space then clear space, if the right thing to do is go to goal then go to goal.

Unless your daughter is one of the best 50 - 100 players in the country the little things are what will make the difference. (Actually, in many cases it is all of those little things that make the difference for many of those top 50 caliber girls).

In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.

4 - have some reach schools but remember the recruiting process will generally tell your daughter where she stands. Help her to stay positive as other players commit or her dream school does not express interest. Be willing to engage with any school / coach that expresses interest. If a school/coach expresses interest and your daughter is not interested look to schools with the same caliber of lacrosse program that she might be interested in and reach out. Do not turn your nose up, do not burn bridges, coaches, especially assistant coaches move around. Engage with any and all coaches who express interest.

5 - do not base everything around lacrosse!!!!
For example , if your daughter wants UNC, UVA, MD, PSU, Florida, Michigan but she is not at that level look at similar schools that have strong Club Programs . It’s about education, experience and
best fit.

6 - the process is very fluid, every time a player commits there are a bunch of coaches out there adjusting their lists and priorities. As players are taken off the board other players move up on coaches lists.

7 - remember the process is different for everyone, help her to stay positive and to keep an open mind.
This crazy process is a life lesson, learn and grow throughout journey and try to enjoy the ride.

Yes, I know it was long but hopefully it is helpful to some.

Best of luck
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It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

Here is how the Ranked players actually did in college... Below is how the Inside Lacrosse 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls did in college. This is the HS Graduating Class of 2016 I choose this class because they have just finished their college careers.

Inside Lacrosse only ranked 30 players in the class of 2016.

There were at least

24 Players became starters and or a regular player who played in every game, generally one of the 13 - 15 players who play every game.

14 All-Conference

11 All-Americans

14 Team Captains

3 or 4 who never developed into a regular and played in a reserve role

2 or 3 season / career ending injuries.

The players who are ranked in general, do not quit, they go to the best college programs and have very good college careers.

I see 16 who started at perennial top 15-20 programs and some of those players did so in spite of a season ending injury in their career. A handful started at programs not as highly ranked and a couple transferred to those schools before seeing much playing time. I see at least 12 on the watch list who started at top programs and had very notable careers. These lists correctly identify a lot of eventual top college players, but they are a snapshot in time and high school is not college.

So it’s 30% accurate. This is as expected since all kids change and develop at a different pace. It just reflects that some kids peak earlier than others. Bottom line is who cares about these lists.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very difficult to determine top player -is it always a middie , GK or is a defender on great team that barely plays D all game the best. It shakes out in college -most super stars don't make it past fall ball unless they are OK with riding the bench. Very few freshman at MD, UNC, BC will see the field.

The vast majority of the players ranked in the Top 30 - 40 go to the Top 10 to 15 programs in the country and most of them get on the field right away.
You obviously have not been around the game long. Hope the koolaid tastes good.

Here is how the Ranked players actually did in college... Below is how the Inside Lacrosse 2015 Young Gun Senior Girls did in college. This is the HS Graduating Class of 2016 I choose this class because they have just finished their college careers.

Inside Lacrosse only ranked 30 players in the class of 2016.

There were at least

24 Players became starters and or a regular player who played in every game, generally one of the 13 - 15 players who play every game.

14 All-Conference

11 All-Americans

14 Team Captains

3 or 4 who never developed into a regular and played in a reserve role

2 or 3 season / career ending injuries.

The players who are ranked in general, do not quit, they go to the best college programs and have very good college careers.

I see 16 who started at perennial top 15-20 programs and some of those players did so in spite of a season ending injury in their career. A handful started at programs not as highly ranked and a couple transferred to those schools before seeing much playing time. I see at least 12 on the watch list who started at top programs and had very notable careers. These lists correctly identify a lot of eventual top college players, but they are a snapshot in time and high school is not college.

So it’s 30% accurate. This is as expected since all kids change and develop at a different pace. It just reflects that some kids peak earlier than others. Bottom line is who cares about these lists.

That’s pretty creative math … as for who cares about the lists just wait until one comes out for the 24’s and you will see all of the negative comments.
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!
We can attest to the fact they were college coaches looking at the '24s at Presidents Cup & yes they contact your daughters coach or director. Two of schools also invited her to their Prospect Days in the winter.IMHOP playing for a strong, well regarded team & playing in top tournament is HUGE leg up on the recruiting process
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I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

Until this year she was at a lower club called 91. They are a very strong boys program but not so much on the girls side From the looks of her past team it seems like most of them went to play at d1-D3 schools. Considering this club doesn’t usually have any top players that is pretty good odds.

The “best” coach is relative and up to opinion. Anyone who invests interest and matches your daughters needs could be the best, but she does have a very positive response from kids who train with her. She is with a stronger club now that has a history of top recruits and coaches their 24 A and B teams. The A team plays in the higher brackets while the B team plays in the lowest brackets.

You’ll find with most coaches or directors that people love or detest them, there is no in between. On this thread you’ll see tilts Expect praise posts and some posts absolutely hating on the girl. I haven’t met her personally but from people I know only hear good things. Then again, you’ll see the same thing about Kotowski, Rose, Spallina, Smiths, etc. Its the name of the game. If people aren’t talking about you, you’re probably irrelevant in the scene. For people to be opinionated in some way you are doing something right in my opinion.

If you are an actual parent whose daughter has played lacrosse competitively , you know the names of the top Long Island teams. Top guns, YJ, Legacy, and jesters are the top of list and you likely know those names if you are involved.

My advice to you would be to talk to tilts or other clubs directly. Most can be reached on social media or by going to the clubs website and looking for emails. If you can get different coaches on the phone, go to a training, or meet them you can get a feel for what they have to offer instead of the rumors people say.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

Go to US club lax website and click the team names. You can see how each team has done this fall and the level of competition they played. Don’t base opinions on he said she said, do the research for yourself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We can attest to the fact they were college coaches looking at the '24s at Presidents Cup & yes they contact your daughters coach or director. Two of schools also invited her to their Prospect Days in the winter.IMHOP playing for a strong, well regarded team & playing in top tournament is HUGE leg up on the recruiting process

A lot of coaches watched 2024s this fall. We had them lined up on sidelines at presidents cup. Not to restir this pot but any good teams know that coaches most certainly were recruiting this fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

Not from LI so can’t speak to any teams or coaches but there is a huge misconception that who your coach is will get you looks. Your talent and ambition get you looks. Some connections may help and a solid team behind you, but no amount of connections, team rank, etc can help you if your talent is lacking.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

The more well known 24 coaches are Tilts, Ramos, Weiner, Smith. Those cover the Jesters A and B team, YJ A and B team , and TG Black. Everyone has either something good or bad to say about all four of them. Seek them out and talk to them and form your own opinions. All you’ll get on here is either extreme of emotion towards them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

The more well known 24 coaches are Tilts, Ramos, Weiner, Smith. Those cover the Jesters A and B team, YJ A and B team , and TG Black. Everyone has either something good or bad to say about all four of them. Seek them out and talk to them and form your own opinions. All you’ll get on here is either extreme of emotion towards them.

Agreed. No one on her is unbiased. I’d suggest forming opinions for yourself if your new here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

The more well known 24 coaches are Tilts, Ramos, Weiner, Smith. Those cover the Jesters A and B team, YJ A and B team , and TG Black. Everyone has either something good or bad to say about all four of them. Seek them out and talk to them and form your own opinions. All you’ll get on here is either extreme of emotion towards them.

You left off Legacy. They are def. Up on the top as well. I would say YJ, Legacy, Top Guns, Liberty and Jesters, Are the teams you should be looking at. Tilts coaches at Jesters. I wouldn’t say they are top three ranked. However, may have the most committed coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know that I'm late the party. We just moved to LI so just started on Back of the Cage. We were told that coach Tilts was the best coach on LI and we should think about going to any team she coaches, but her players don't get any looks by colleges. Is that because she coaches weak team? Is there any truth to that? My daughter has played since she was 5 and has been top of team, league in points since age 8. We were told that because her teams always play the lowest bracketl at tournaments without much success? ? And does she coach
Lightning or Power or Jesters? And direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated!!
Good lluck to all the girls this sseason!

The more well known 24 coaches are Tilts, Ramos, Weiner, Smith. Those cover the Jesters A and B team, YJ A and B team , and TG Black. Everyone has either something good or bad to say about all four of them. Seek them out and talk to them and form your own opinions. All you’ll get on here is either extreme of emotion towards them.

You left off Legacy. They are def. Up on the top as well. I would say YJ, Legacy, Top Guns, Liberty and Jesters, Are the teams you should be looking at. Tilts coaches at Jesters. I wouldn’t say they are top three ranked. However, may have the most committed coach.

Would agree here. She was at a weak program until this year. Better programs pull better players so it is easier as a coach when you have the top talent to start off with. Considering the type of players her old club attracted she did well with them. Kids on her teams and kids she trains seem to adore her. She is by far one of the most involved and committed coaches you will find which is part of the reason you'll hear her praises sang by any who work with her. Her team is probably top five of the 24 teams on the Island behind Weiner and Legacy for sure, but equivalent to Ramos.

All of the clubs mentioned by the last post are spot on with where you would want to put your kid minus liberty in my personal opinion, but again it is just that: an opinion. You'll get a lot of opinions on here, but remember they ARE NOT facts. Your best bet is to do research by going to teams or coaches pages. Here are some on social media to look at:
@LI_Yellowjackets
@liyj2024wiener
@Jesterslaxgirls
@Jesters2024Black
@coachtilts
@legacylacrossegirls
@LItopgunslacrosse
@libertylax

Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree with this. This is a 2024 thread as our daughters begin the recruiting process and not bashing other clubs would be a great start. There are parents on here that are not from LI if you can believe that and we do not care about the politics in your area. If you had an older daughter and have something of value to add that is great, but let's keep it to current opportunities for 2024's. Many parents are just trying to navigate the process and bounce ideas off other parents and egt feedback on camps and clinics.

Take it or leave it…. From someone who has been through it multiple times.

1 - Do not rely on Club (use the club as a resource but do not rely on them) reach out to anyone you know who might have a relationship with a coach at a school that your daughter is interested in (club director, club coach, Hs coach, current/former player at the school etc…)

2 - Identify and list a number of schools that your daughter would like to attend (and play lacrosse).
I would recommend going on the NCAA Lacrosse website, go to rankings, select RPI (you will see all of the schools that have Varsity Lacrosse. You can do it for DI, II and III. I would start with a large number.

2 - Develop a plan and help your daughter “market” herself to the schools. Email each coach (head coach as well as assistant coaches at each school) introducing herself and expressing her interest in the school and the program. Be persistent without being obnoxious / annoying. Update the coaches from time to time making them aware of what events she will be at, new film available, etc…

3 - make sure that your daughter understands that coaches look at things other than scoring a goal.
- always hustle off the field, never react negatively to a teammate I.e. if she gives a perfect pass to her teammate and she drops it do not react in a negative way. If she is a middlie be sure to hustle back ( sprint) to get on defense (it’s okay to trail the play when going on offense, it’s not okay to jog back to play defense). If she plays attack redefend with as much if not more effort than when going to the goal. If she is a defender slide with conviction, talk/communicate and never show dejection if she gets beat 1v1 . Teach her that it is the next play that matters just like a goalie. Every goalie let’s in shots and every defensive player gets beat.

Stay positive when her team is losing, fight harder when things are not going well, encourage her teammates when they make a bad play, pat them on the back, pick them up. Fight like heck for ground balls.

Make the right play I.e. if the right thing to do is move the ball then move the ball… if the right thing to do is clear space then clear space, if the right thing to do is go to goal then go to goal.

Unless your daughter is one of the best 50 - 100 players in the country the little things are what will make the difference. (Actually, in many cases it is all of those little things that make the difference for many of those top 50 caliber girls).

In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.

4 - have some reach schools but remember the recruiting process will generally tell your daughter where she stands. Help her to stay positive as other players commit or her dream school does not express interest. Be willing to engage with any school / coach that expresses interest. If a school/coach expresses interest and your daughter is not interested look to schools with the same caliber of lacrosse program that she might be interested in and reach out. Do not turn your nose up, do not burn bridges, coaches, especially assistant coaches move around. Engage with any and all coaches who express interest.

5 - do not base everything around lacrosse!!!!
For example , if your daughter wants UNC, UVA, MD, PSU, Florida, Michigan but she is not at that level look at similar schools that have strong Club Programs . It’s about education, experience and
best fit.

6 - the process is very fluid, every time a player commits there are a bunch of coaches out there adjusting their lists and priorities. As players are taken off the board other players move up on coaches lists.

7 - remember the process is different for everyone, help her to stay positive and to keep an open mind.
This crazy process is a life lesson, learn and grow throughout journey and try to enjoy the ride.

Yes, I know it was long but hopefully it is helpful to some.

Best of luck

Thanks for posting this. I agree and this is great advice for anyone looking to help their child play college.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree with this. This is a 2024 thread as our daughters begin the recruiting process and not bashing other clubs would be a great start. There are parents on here that are not from LI if you can believe that and we do not care about the politics in your area. If you had an older daughter and have something of value to add that is great, but let's keep it to current opportunities for 2024's. Many parents are just trying to navigate the process and bounce ideas off other parents and egt feedback on camps and clinics.

Take it or leave it…. From someone who has been through it multiple times.

1 - Do not rely on Club (use the club as a resource but do not rely on them) reach out to anyone you know who might have a relationship with a coach at a school that your daughter is interested in (club director, club coach, Hs coach, current/former player at the school etc…)

2 - Identify and list a number of schools that your daughter would like to attend (and play lacrosse).
I would recommend going on the NCAA Lacrosse website, go to rankings, select RPI (you will see all of the schools that have Varsity Lacrosse. You can do it for DI, II and III. I would start with a large number.

2 - Develop a plan and help your daughter “market” herself to the schools. Email each coach (head coach as well as assistant coaches at each school) introducing herself and expressing her interest in the school and the program. Be persistent without being obnoxious / annoying. Update the coaches from time to time making them aware of what events she will be at, new film available, etc…

3 - make sure that your daughter understands that coaches look at things other than scoring a goal.
- always hustle off the field, never react negatively to a teammate I.e. if she gives a perfect pass to her teammate and she drops it do not react in a negative way. If she is a middlie be sure to hustle back ( sprint) to get on defense (it’s okay to trail the play when going on offense, it’s not okay to jog back to play defense). If she plays attack redefend with as much if not more effort than when going to the goal. If she is a defender slide with conviction, talk/communicate and never show dejection if she gets beat 1v1 . Teach her that it is the next play that matters just like a goalie. Every goalie let’s in shots and every defensive player gets beat.

Stay positive when her team is losing, fight harder when things are not going well, encourage her teammates when they make a bad play, pat them on the back, pick them up. Fight like heck for ground balls.

Make the right play I.e. if the right thing to do is move the ball then move the ball… if the right thing to do is clear space then clear space, if the right thing to do is go to goal then go to goal.

Unless your daughter is one of the best 50 - 100 players in the country the little things are what will make the difference. (Actually, in many cases it is all of those little things that make the difference for many of those top 50 caliber girls).

In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.

4 - have some reach schools but remember the recruiting process will generally tell your daughter where she stands. Help her to stay positive as other players commit or her dream school does not express interest. Be willing to engage with any school / coach that expresses interest. If a school/coach expresses interest and your daughter is not interested look to schools with the same caliber of lacrosse program that she might be interested in and reach out. Do not turn your nose up, do not burn bridges, coaches, especially assistant coaches move around. Engage with any and all coaches who express interest.

5 - do not base everything around lacrosse!!!!
For example , if your daughter wants UNC, UVA, MD, PSU, Florida, Michigan but she is not at that level look at similar schools that have strong Club Programs . It’s about education, experience and
best fit.

6 - the process is very fluid, every time a player commits there are a bunch of coaches out there adjusting their lists and priorities. As players are taken off the board other players move up on coaches lists.

7 - remember the process is different for everyone, help her to stay positive and to keep an open mind.
This crazy process is a life lesson, learn and grow throughout journey and try to enjoy the ride.

Yes, I know it was long but hopefully it is helpful to some.

Best of luck

We love the posts that talk about playing the game correctly, enjoying the experience and that education comes first. Pick the school first based on major, level of education and atmosphere first. You aren’t going to be playing lacrosse for the rest of your life so choose your school and major wisely.
D1, 2, 3 or club it’s all about having fun and getting an education.
Plenty of places to play and everyone’s experience is different. Take your time and enjoy the experience. Spring and Summer will be a hot time for the 24 group but will also carry on through next fall for most. Middle to lower end D1 will carry on into late fall and still be commiting payers throughout the winter. NESCAC and top D3 settle very late. If you look most 24s are not welcome to the camps being run right now because they are still settling with some 22 and heavy on 23. Sept 1 is not the finish line for most of these girls. It will only be the beginning for most.
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.
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Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.
Not true for us. My 3 girls have been to tryouts and have been selected multiple times for US Lax School Girls & UA, AS & AU. Double digit tryout events for 3 kids and have spoken to others from 2 other regions. Well over 20 + tryouts & not one had a current college coach evaluating. Most were HS & Club evaluators and in some circumstances vetted parents that signed up to evaluate.
Huh??? You are so far off base from OG post that I can't even respond to this dribble.
I think you responded to the wrong post.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Not true for us. My 3 girls have been to tryouts and have been selected multiple times for US Lax School Girls & UA, AS & AU. Double digit tryout events for 3 kids and have spoken to others from 2 other regions. Well over 20 + tryouts & not one had a current college coach evaluating. Most were HS & Club evaluators and in some circumstances vetted parents that signed up to evaluate.

What are you responding to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

So true. Over 500 and some really good schools in all divisions. Sport is growing in leaps and bounds ,,especially for the women.
You have to have the grades or they won’t want to talk to you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

So true. Over 500 and some really good schools in all divisions. Sport is growing in leaps and bounds ,,especially for the women.
You have to have the grades or they won’t want to talk to you.

Over 500? What are you talking about?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

So true. Over 500 and some really good schools in all divisions. Sport is growing in leaps and bounds ,,especially for the women.
You have to have the grades or they won’t want to talk to you.

For those on Long Island the hotbed is fading. There is a school for just about every decent travel lacrosse player ( So many solid D3’s ) but don’t sit back.
The rest of America is coming on board and there are lots of top notch lacrosse players from many new states hitting the college ranks. If 2022 and now 2023 recruitment is a guide lots of traditional D1’s that were in the past going to LI ( yes Maryland Conn / Mass NJ VA PA DE ) are now being won by newer states kids.
Colorado Texas California Florida Carolina’s are coming up fast and now Oregon Minnesota Ohio plus rest of New England states plus Canada are clocking in great players. Long Island still the top or in multi area tie but even as new schools are added new areas are producing great lacrosse players. Gotta work, best of luck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

So true. Over 500 and some really good schools in all divisions. Sport is growing in leaps and bounds ,,especially for the women.
You have to have the grades or they won’t want to talk to you.

For those on Long Island the hotbed is fading. There is a school for just about every decent travel lacrosse player ( So many solid D3’s ) but don’t sit back.
The rest of America is coming on board and there are lots of top notch lacrosse players from many new states hitting the college ranks. If 2022 and now 2023 recruitment is a guide lots of traditional D1’s that were in the past going to LI ( yes Maryland Conn / Mass NJ VA PA DE ) are now being won by newer states kids.
Colorado Texas California Florida Carolina’s are coming up fast and now Oregon Minnesota Ohio plus rest of New England states plus Canada are clocking in great players. Long Island still the top or in multi area tie but even as new schools are added new areas are producing great lacrosse players. Gotta work, best of luck

I think you are trying to say that the sport is growing in leaps and bounds. Plenty of opportunities for so many and I don’t see it slowing down anytime soon.
Long Island is well represented on so many D1, D2 and D3 rosters. It will always be a hotbed but with the growth comes good athletes being exposed in different areas.
Of course Maryland is a huge hot bed and parts of NJ, NE and a few others. Plenty of good players from all over on all of these rosters. Sorry if I left any areas out.
No shame in going D2 or D3 or club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

So true. Over 500 and some really good schools in all divisions. Sport is growing in leaps and bounds ,,especially for the women.
You have to have the grades or they won’t want to talk to you.

Over 500? What are you talking about?

Add D1 D2 D3 and NAIA schools and you get well over 500 options. 124 plus 106 plus 293 plus 42 And that’s not including club

There are so many great options from Maine to Florida on the eastern seaboard.
Take a look at how many colleges are represented in states like Pennsylvania, NC and Virginia.
Florida and South Carolina is also well represented
Upper Midwest states has a growing list of options. Especially Ohio and Michigan.
Would like to see some more options out west but it’s more than it’s ever been. Was sad to see Fresno state drop its program. California and Colorado are doing ok but could use some more friends. Come on Arizona and Oregon colleges let’s join the party.
Waiting for colleges in states like Texas and Oklahoma to jump on board.
Would like to see more options develop in Tennessee, Indiana, Kentucky, Alabama, and Illinois
The addition of Clemson in my opinion will open the flood gates for Alabama, Auburn, Texas etc etc.
In coming years they’ll be a bunch big schools coming.
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.

I love your enthusiasm but the reality is there isn’t enough talent to go around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.

Everything above sounds great but SEC schools Florida and Vanderbilt have women’s lacrosse. Both are associate with other conferences for that sport. It’s still a tremendous undertaking for Texas or Oklahoma
to take on a non revenue sport that would require so much traveling.
Many of these schools have club teams so we will see.
Any feedback from XPO yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Thanks for sharing. Where did you hear this?

NJIT makes a lot of sense as American East sponsors the sport. That would leave Maine as the only school in American East without women’s lacrosse as a varsity sport. Hartford is dropping down to D3. Plus they already have a men’s team.

Miami Ohio is another great choice as a member of the MAC. That’s a growing conference for women’s lacrosse with several schools having new programs, YSU, Akron, CMichigan, Detroit Mercy, EMichigan and Robert Morris just moved from NEC.
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Thanks for sharing. Where did you hear this?

NJIT makes a lot of sense as American East sponsors the sport. That would leave Maine as the only school in American East without women’s lacrosse as a varsity sport. Hartford is dropping down to D3. Plus they already have a men’s team.

Miami Ohio is another great choice as a member of the MAC. That’s a growing conference for women’s lacrosse with several schools having new programs, YSU, Akron, CMichigan, Detroit Mercy, EMichigan and Robert Morris just moved from NEC.

We have a club parent on the NJIT Board. Apparently Miami is no really a secret, it has been in their athletic strategic plan for a while and was delayed due to Covid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

It’s very political- coaches favorites will go. Don’t bother applying if your coach isn’t obsessed with you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.

Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Thanks for sharing. Where did you hear this?

NJIT makes a lot of sense as American East sponsors the sport. That would leave Maine as the only school in American East without women’s lacrosse as a varsity sport. Hartford is dropping down to D3. Plus they already have a men’s team.

Miami Ohio is another great choice as a member of the MAC. That’s a growing conference for women’s lacrosse with several schools having new programs, YSU, Akron, CMichigan, Detroit Mercy, EMichigan and Robert Morris just moved from NEC.

We have a club parent on the NJIT Board. Apparently Miami is no really a secret, it has been in their athletic strategic plan for a while and was delayed due to Covid.

Many signs pointing to Florida state also. Makes a lot of sense because of their conference(ACC) and plenty of competition in Florida and the rest of the southern states.
At this point it doesn’t matter how good the tourney is - do it to get film, lots of it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.

Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.
Curious if your teams sent UA150 out to the entire team suggesting it or if it wasn't mentioned to you?
Original Poster here, I only got an email from UA directly telling me that the deadline THAT day. The only email we received. Nothing from the team or anyone else. Too late to get anything gushing from club coach and high school coach which they said was Optional. I doubt they bother to take a look at the video if there wasn't. And yet who can blame them? If I were UA, I'd start with the "Optionals" and decide from there who's video to watch.
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Original Poster here, I only got an email from UA directly telling me that the deadline THAT day. The only email we received. Nothing from the team or anyone else. Too late to get anything gushing from club coach and high school coach which they said was Optional. I doubt they bother to take a look at the video if there wasn't. And yet who can blame them? If I were UA, I'd start with the "Optionals" and decide from there who's video to watch.

What team do you play for? Our coach sent it to the entire team and wrote us a very long detailed recommendation as they should.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious if your teams sent UA150 out to the entire team suggesting it or if it wasn't mentioned to you?

This event is a money grad and a waste of time!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.

I love your enthusiasm but the reality is there isn’t enough talent to go around.

Not all of these but could see a few more added.
Rumor has it NJIT in the NEC and Miami U Ohio in the MAC are the next to add. If you look at those both of those conferences it makes a lot of sense. NJIT already has a men’s team. Based on rumors Florida State (ACC) could also. Great opportunity for women. Girl Power!!!
Who cares cause it’s all a money grab!!. Please don’t make your club sound like it’s better than any other. We haven’t seen the bashing or fake news self promoting in a few weeks. We like it positive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.

I love your enthusiasm but the reality is there isn’t enough talent to go around.

Not all of these but could see a few more added.
Rumor has it NJIT in the NEC and Miami U Ohio in the MAC are the next to add. If you look at those both of those conferences it makes a lot of sense. NJIT already has a men’s team. Based on rumors Florida State (ACC) could also. Great opportunity for women. Girl Power!!!

NJIT is now part of American East conference. Take a look and you will see that the rumor makes complete sense.
Let’s hope that a lack of revenue from civid doesn’t slow any of these potential changes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares cause it’s all a money grab!!. Please don’t make your club sound like it’s better than any other. We haven’t seen the bashing or fake news self promoting in a few weeks. We like it positive.

Truth of the matter is some clubs are much better than others and I don’t think any clubs are on here with a full time botc promoter
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares cause it’s all a money grab!!. Please don’t make your club sound like it’s better than any other. We haven’t seen the bashing or fake news self promoting in a few weeks. We like it positive.

Truth of the matter is some clubs are much better than others and I don’t think any clubs are on here with a full time botc promoter

Whether or not it’s a money grab it’s still attracting the top players. It is true that coaches kids make it 99% of the time regardless of their skill so don’t be surprised when your coach puts their kid up before yours if it comes down to it.
These events are not all money grabs. The parents who claim they are are the parents whose kids can’t get in.
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These events are not all money grabs. The parents who claim they are are the parents whose kids can’t get in.

Should these events be free of charge? UA 150 is a good event that tries to bring in the best players possible. There will always be parents who complain about "parent coaches, connections, politics etc..." many of these parents can not accurately assess how their daughter stacks up vs other players. No one event is the end all be all there are many opportunities for college coaches to watch the kids play. If a college coach watches a player compete and believes that the player can help the coaches program the coach will recruit the player.
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!
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Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?


It means repeating a grade.

What is crazy about re-classing? For some it is a smart thing to do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.

Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

I assume that your are saying a current 2023 who is committed to Stanford is going to reclass technically making her the first 2024 to be committed. If true, why is it crazy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.

Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

This goes for all parents coaches not just the one mentioned above: these coaches will be parents first always. Their kids will always come first because they are parents first and foremost. It’s why parent coaches are always frowned upon but can you blame them?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

Agreed doesn’t make sense
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

I would imagine it’s a2023 who will take a gap year after senior year. Therefore she’ll be arriving on campus as a freshman with current 2024s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

Sounds like they were a 2023 who commited as a 23 and is now reclassing to 2024? Maybe Repeating 11th grade?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

A ‘23 from Colorado just committed to Stanford. She will reclass (go to prep school)and enter as a ‘24. So she is technically the first’24 commit
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

If a 23 is committed and reclassing they can know where they are going.
Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

If a 23 is committed and reclassing they can know where they are going.

Yes. Boys have been doing this for years. Haven’t see it on the girls side until now. Maybe a new trend? Not many I know of would turn down a chance to go to Stanford if it means waiting a year.
A ‘23who has a special arrangement to going to a PG year and then Stanford will take her?
I heard John Carroll has a 22 that reclassed to a 23 this years- a girl.
Does anyone have any information on the Juniors Open? Is this a new showcase
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Does anyone have any information on the Juniors Open? Is this a new showcase

You apply for a spot. First year running so could not speak to whether it was any good.
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Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24

Nothing unfair at all.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

A ‘23 from Colorado just committed to Stanford. She will reclass (go to prep school)and enter as a ‘24. So she is technically the first’24 commit

It’s not a reclass if in fact she is doing a PG year.

Nothing new about PG , people have been doing it for years but I believe it has been predominantly done by boys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like the first ‘24 commit is a a ‘23 reclass to Stanford! Let the craziness begin!

Who reclassed? What does that even mean?

I assume it's someone who will have enough HS credits to graduate after 3 years and decides to skip their 4th year of HS and head to college. Don't know anything about this particular situation.

If you’re a 24 though you still can’t commit until 9/1 of your junior year to d1 so confused on how a 24 could commit to d1 even if they’re reclassed

A ‘23 from Colorado just committed to Stanford. She will reclass (go to prep school)and enter as a ‘24. So she is technically the first’24 commit

It’s not a reclass if in fact she is doing a PG year.

Nothing new about PG , people have been doing it for years but I believe it has been predominantly done by boys.

You can call it what ever you want, but the girl is entering college a year after what would be typical. It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy.
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

Sofia Conti, YJ Weiner
Emily Haugen, YJ Ramos
Kayleigh Corr, Jesters Black
Kate Hearns, Jesters Black
Tess Calabria, YJ Weiner
Riley Zusi, Legacy

These are all very strong local players and deserve all the recognition
Anyone who wants to pay to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

How would one know? Invite by email?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

How would one know? Invite by email?

You’d have been emailed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who wants to pay to play.

Not true it’s highly selective no coach recommendations so they avoid political ties. It is solely based off application, film, and accolades. If you look at the names of kids who were accepted outside of just Long Island they are all names you hear a lot around the 24 scene
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who wants to pay to play.

I was thinking the same for a few of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

Sofia Conti, YJ Weiner
Emily Haugen, YJ Ramos
Kayleigh Corr, Jesters Black
Kate Hearns, Jesters Black
Tess Calabria, YJ Weiner
Riley Zusi, Legacy

These are all very strong local players and deserve all the recognition

How do you know who “made it”? Is there a list? Isn't it just a sign up thing?
Have to apply first. And contrary to what someone else said, not everyone who applies is accepted.
Money grab for sure!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

Sofia Conti, YJ Weiner
Emily Haugen, YJ Ramos
Kayleigh Corr, Jesters Black
Kate Hearns, Jesters Black
Tess Calabria, YJ Weiner
Riley Zusi, Legacy

These are all very strong local players and deserve all the recognition

How do you know who “made it”? Is there a list? Isn't it just a sign up thing?

You apply and they select a very small # of players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Money grab for sure!

The people who claim these events are money grabs are the kids not able to get into them. We didn't apply because there is a camp on the same days that we want to attend, but had we applied and not made it it would be because they didn't see something in my daughter. I wouldn't turn to the internet and act like it's all a money grab because my kid didn't get in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Long Island kids have made best in class?

Sofia Conti, YJ Weiner
Emily Haugen, YJ Ramos
Kayleigh Corr, Jesters Black
Kate Hearns, Jesters Black
Tess Calabria, YJ Weiner
Riley Zusi, Legacy

These are all very strong local players and deserve all the recognition

How do you know who “made it”? Is there a list? Isn't it just a sign up thing?

It's on their social media posts and stories. They make announcements daily. It looks like they are on the last wave of invites. Looking at the list above, there are four St Anthonys players. There is also a trend of where the kids who made it are coming from, so while it may not be as political as events like NYSR, Under Armor, American Select, etc it does seem like they're attracted to certain clubs. It makes sense though because YJ does have some top talent on their A team and a few who are somehow on their B team.
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree with this. This is a 2024 thread as our daughters begin the recruiting process and not bashing other clubs would be a great start. There are parents on here that are not from LI if you can believe that and we do not care about the politics in your area. If you had an older daughter and have something of value to add that is great, but let's keep it to current opportunities for 2024's. Many parents are just trying to navigate the process and bounce ideas off other parents and egt feedback on camps and clinics.

Take it or leave it…. From someone who has been through it multiple times.

1 - Do not rely on Club (use the club as a resource but do not rely on them) reach out to anyone you know who might have a relationship with a coach at a school that your daughter is interested in (club director, club coach, Hs coach, current/former player at the school etc…)

2 - Identify and list a number of schools that your daughter would like to attend (and play lacrosse).
I would recommend going on the NCAA Lacrosse website, go to rankings, select RPI (you will see all of the schools that have Varsity Lacrosse. You can do it for DI, II and III. I would start with a large number.

2 - Develop a plan and help your daughter “market” herself to the schools. Email each coach (head coach as well as assistant coaches at each school) introducing herself and expressing her interest in the school and the program. Be persistent without being obnoxious / annoying. Update the coaches from time to time making them aware of what events she will be at, new film available, etc…

3 - make sure that your daughter understands that coaches look at things other than scoring a goal.
- always hustle off the field, never react negatively to a teammate I.e. if she gives a perfect pass to her teammate and she drops it do not react in a negative way. If she is a middlie be sure to hustle back ( sprint) to get on defense (it’s okay to trail the play when going on offense, it’s not okay to jog back to play defense). If she plays attack redefend with as much if not more effort than when going to the goal. If she is a defender slide with conviction, talk/communicate and never show dejection if she gets beat 1v1 . Teach her that it is the next play that matters just like a goalie. Every goalie let’s in shots and every defensive player gets beat.

Stay positive when her team is losing, fight harder when things are not going well, encourage her teammates when they make a bad play, pat them on the back, pick them up. Fight like heck for ground balls.

Make the right play I.e. if the right thing to do is move the ball then move the ball… if the right thing to do is clear space then clear space, if the right thing to do is go to goal then go to goal.

Unless your daughter is one of the best 50 - 100 players in the country the little things are what will make the difference. (Actually, in many cases it is all of those little things that make the difference for many of those top 50 caliber girls).

In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.

4 - have some reach schools but remember the recruiting process will generally tell your daughter where she stands. Help her to stay positive as other players commit or her dream school does not express interest. Be willing to engage with any school / coach that expresses interest. If a school/coach expresses interest and your daughter is not interested look to schools with the same caliber of lacrosse program that she might be interested in and reach out. Do not turn your nose up, do not burn bridges, coaches, especially assistant coaches move around. Engage with any and all coaches who express interest.

5 - do not base everything around lacrosse!!!!
For example , if your daughter wants UNC, UVA, MD, PSU, Florida, Michigan but she is not at that level look at similar schools that have strong Club Programs . It’s about education, experience and
best fit.

6 - the process is very fluid, every time a player commits there are a bunch of coaches out there adjusting their lists and priorities. As players are taken off the board other players move up on coaches lists.

7 - remember the process is different for everyone, help her to stay positive and to keep an open mind.
This crazy process is a life lesson, learn and grow throughout journey and try to enjoy the ride.

Yes, I know it was long but hopefully it is helpful to some.

Best of luck

I love this advice. Everyone should read and live by it.
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My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Despite the growth of Lacrosse elsewhere, the Northeast will still be prominent for a long time. Some Midwest and the Atlantic states will add but heaviest recruiting is still on the east coast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Title 9 has brought so much opportunity for women.
124 D1
107 D2
293 D3
42 NAIA
Many more club teams at great schools.
Some schools have an NCAA and club option.
Schools are adding women’s lacrosse constantly and who knows how many will be added this year. Seems to be a spot for everyone. So much fun!
24s enjoy the ride.

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

Oh wow, you are so correct. So many great academic choices. Thank you Title 9.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!

Does anyone know what happened down at Wofford with the head coach?
“In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.”

^^^
This!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!

Does anyone know what happened down at Wofford with the head coach?

Do you mean Winthrop??? because they no longer have a coaching staff. They are in the process of hiring but not sure with the staff that was there prior.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy
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UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Lots of good players and lots of games. Best in class is new and similar concept. Some 24 from Long Island doing that one.

Best in Class is run by Deemer Class. He's awesome and truly cares about the kids reaching their goals of playing in college.
UA 150 was a well run event. Both are good options IMO.

Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

Is this the same coach that was at YJ
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

What is Crazy?

Is there something wrong with making choices that are advantages to your own success?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

For sports that are based on grade and not age you will see people trying to gain an advantage early in the youth process. I always think it’s dangerous and unfair that people hold kids back.
As far as kids doing an extra year post HS, their are many sports that do the same thing. Lacrosse seems like the worst. That is why the boys side was so enamored with the World Series of Lacrosse because they put restrictions on age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

What is Crazy?

Is there something wrong with making choices that are advantages to your own success?

Nah, I agree that’s it’s kind of crazy.
There should be age restrictions early in the youth game and should be an age restriction for starting freshman year. Unless of course you are military. Probably unlikely because there is too much $$ involved with the prep schools. A whole industry of the rich and famous would be negatively impacted if they leveled the playing field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

What is Crazy?

Is there something wrong with making choices that are advantages to your own success?

Nah, I agree that’s it’s kind of crazy.
There should be age restrictions early in the youth game and should be an age restriction for starting freshman year. Unless of course you are military. Probably unlikely because there is too much $$ involved with the prep schools. A whole industry of the rich and famous would be negatively impacted if they leveled the playing field.

Agree that youth sports should be age based. But an age based restriction for starting college is a bit much.

The resentment and animosity directed at people of means is really sad. The whining and making excuses why their child is not being offered a spot at one of the top lacrosse programs or top academic institutions or in some cases both is also sad.

For some, it’s always something i.e. politics, pay to play, friends & family, connections, club affiliation, coach favorites, parent coaches etc… now it’s wealthy people reclassing or choosing to do a PG year that is making it unfair.

Most parents I know are hoping that lacrosse will help their kids get into a school that they would not get into based on grades alone and or to possibly get some financial help. All of the nonsense about fairness, politics and whatever other excuses will go out the window on September 1.

The recruiting process lets all of the players and parents know just where they stand. But even during the recruiting process there will be complaints of politics and the rest of the BS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

What is Crazy?

Is there something wrong with making choices that are advantages to your own success?

Nah, I agree that’s it’s kind of crazy.
There should be age restrictions early in the youth game and should be an age restriction for starting freshman year. Unless of course you are military. Probably unlikely because there is too much $$ involved with the prep schools. A whole industry of the rich and famous would be negatively impacted if they leveled the playing field.

Agree that youth sports should be age based. But an age based restriction for starting college is a bit much.

The resentment and animosity directed at people of means is really sad. The whining and making excuses why their child is not being offered a spot at one of the top lacrosse programs or top academic institutions or in some cases both is also sad.

For some, it’s always something i.e. politics, pay to play, friends & family, connections, club affiliation, coach favorites, parent coaches etc… now it’s wealthy people reclassing or choosing to do a PG year that is making it unfair.

Most parents I know are hoping that lacrosse will help their kids get into a school that they would not get into based on grades alone and or to possibly get some financial help. All of the nonsense about fairness, politics and whatever other excuses will go out the window on September 1.

The recruiting process lets all of the players and parents know just where they stand. But even during the recruiting process there will be complaints of politics and the rest of the BS.

So I guess you are a person of means? Very funny how you draw on someone else’s observation and turn it into a whining fest about everything that is unfair. I look at sports as a means to an end for some but not necessarily all. But it doesn’t have to be that way because in the end, it’s just a game. It hopefully teaches some life lessons about hard work, character and being part of a team. Sadly, one of those lessons is that life isn’t fair. Actually in some instances very unfair.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the playing field was completely level and nobody was able to manipulate the system?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

For sports that are based on grade and not age you will see people trying to gain an advantage early in the youth process. I always think it’s dangerous and unfair that people hold kids back.
As far as kids doing an extra year post HS, their are many sports that do the same thing. Lacrosse seems like the worst. That is why the boys side was so enamored with the World Series of Lacrosse because they put restrictions on age.

The reality is that there are a lot of delusional parents who believe that their child is entitled to make all the teams and lists/rankings. They are incapable of believing that other athletes are better than their daughter, they simply can not see it or admit it. Now we are hearing complaints about holdbacks, reclassing and PGs. In our town youth program they would not allow players to "Play Up" with the grade above even if the kid was capable of doing so. The parents complained that it wasn't fair. They even tried to restrict players from playing for club teams (more so on the boy's side) because it wasn't fair that some players could make the top teams and many other players could not. It is all BS and in the end the college coaches will offer spots to the players that they believe will help strengthen their program. When kids start committing there will be parents complaining about all of the same nonsense.... "it's not fair", "her father has connections", "our club director didn't help" etc... All BS.
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My belief is that conferences already with the sport will have the next schools to add. I would think Texas would be a great add with a lax only venue and a strong club team but they along with Oklahoma are moving to SEC. No women’s lacrosse teams in that conference and the only NCAA team in Texas is U of Dallas(D3). Too much travel expenses for those teams to add unless the whole conference decided to add it. Hopefully with more growth in the those states over the next few years it will happen.

Watch out for ACC schools- NCState, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami and Wake Forest

AAC(American)-Florida Atlantic, UNC Charlotte stated 2 years ago they were adding WLax but seems to have stalled,

PAC 12 and the west coast- hopefully as the MPSF conference only has 2 teams- UC Davis and San Diego state.

CAA-College of Charleston, Northeastern, UNC Wilmington

ASUN-Bellamine, Central Arkansas, Florida Gulf Coast, UNorth Florida, Eastern Kentucky, Cleveland State

How about a school like West Virginia? Close to many lax schools but they are currently in Big 12. There is a tremendous amount of realignment as football schools look to grab TV $$. So who knows what the future will bring.


Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Thanks for sharing. Where did you hear this?

NJIT makes a lot of sense as American East sponsors the sport. That would leave Maine as the only school in American East without women’s lacrosse as a varsity sport. Hartford is dropping down to D3. Plus they already have a men’s team.

Miami Ohio is another great choice as a member of the MAC. That’s a growing conference for women’s lacrosse with several schools having new programs, YSU, Akron, CMichigan, Detroit Mercy, EMichigan and Robert Morris just moved from NEC.

We have a club parent on the NJIT Board. Apparently Miami is no really a secret, it has been in their athletic strategic plan for a while and was delayed due to Covid.

Thank you for sharing. The news hasn’t officially dropped yet but hopefully soon.

Check out the Lacrosse Growth Blog. It shows all the new college programs along with the press releases It’s amazing how many schools have been added in the last year or even the last 6 months. D1, D2, D3 and NAIA. Getting an education while having a healthy balance of athletics is an amazing opportunity.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

For sports that are based on grade and not age you will see people trying to gain an advantage early in the youth process. I always think it’s dangerous and unfair that people hold kids back.
As far as kids doing an extra year post HS, their are many sports that do the same thing. Lacrosse seems like the worst. That is why the boys side was so enamored with the World Series of Lacrosse because they put restrictions on age.

The reality is that there are a lot of delusional parents who believe that their child is entitled to make all the teams and lists/rankings. They are incapable of believing that other athletes are better than their daughter, they simply can not see it or admit it. Now we are hearing complaints about holdbacks, reclassing and PGs. In our town youth program they would not allow players to "Play Up" with the grade above even if the kid was capable of doing so. The parents complained that it wasn't fair. They even tried to restrict players from playing for club teams (more so on the boy's side) because it wasn't fair that some players could make the top teams and many other players could not. It is all BS and in the end the college coaches will offer spots to the players that they believe will help strengthen their program. When kids start committing there will be parents complaining about all of the same nonsense.... "it's not fair", "her father has connections", "our club director didn't help" etc... All BS.

I don’t disagree with most of what you said.
Playing up is one thing or having certain kids who are stronger making A over B teams etc
-but adjusting your status so that you will be older/stronger for sports is manipulating the system and twisted.
And not in the same category of any of the other things you said.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

For sports that are based on grade and not age you will see people trying to gain an advantage early in the youth process. I always think it’s dangerous and unfair that people hold kids back.
As far as kids doing an extra year post HS, their are many sports that do the same thing. Lacrosse seems like the worst. That is why the boys side was so enamored with the World Series of Lacrosse because they put restrictions on age.

The reality is that there are a lot of delusional parents who believe that their child is entitled to make all the teams and lists/rankings. They are incapable of believing that other athletes are better than their daughter, they simply can not see it or admit it. Now we are hearing complaints about holdbacks, reclassing and PGs. In our town youth program they would not allow players to "Play Up" with the grade above even if the kid was capable of doing so. The parents complained that it wasn't fair. They even tried to restrict players from playing for club teams (more so on the boy's side) because it wasn't fair that some players could make the top teams and many other players could not. It is all BS and in the end the college coaches will offer spots to the players that they believe will help strengthen their program. When kids start committing there will be parents complaining about all of the same nonsense.... "it's not fair", "her father has connections", "our club director didn't help" etc... All BS.

I don’t disagree with most of what you said.
Playing up is one thing or having certain kids who are stronger making A over B teams etc
-but adjusting your status so that you will be older/stronger for sports is manipulating the system and twisted.
And not in the same category of any of the other things you said.

The majority of kids that do a PG year do so at the request of the college coach and in most cases it is done in order to improve grades and test scores so that the student athlete can gain acceptance to the university.

I have seen some complaints on here about fairness and wanting a level playing field so that there is no advantage. The fact is that there is never a level playing field, all things are never equal, someone will always have an advantage.

Some parents will always complain that something isn't fair.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

Yes, you can hold your kid back in Kindergarten (and many parents do).

Yes, you can reclass, I believe it is usually done in 8th or 9th grade.

Yes, you can do a PG year.

This has been going on for a long time and it is done to put the child in the best position possible, to give the kid an advantage.

These options are available to everyone and people have been doing it for many years. I went to college in the mid - late 80's and there were several kids on the team that did a PG year and were probably held back in kindergarten and yes, a HS friend reclassed / repeated 9th grade. I recall kids getting "left back" in early elementary school they were young for the grade and were having a tough time keeping up.

Traditionally the reclass / PG year has been done by wealthy families but now more and more people have been exposed to the potential advantages.

To each his own, do it or don't but it's not worth complaining about.
Everyone is completely missing the boat on this discussion. Yes, in many cases kids reclass to gain a physical advantage on the playing field and in turn, in recruiting. This kid already got recruited, then decided to reclass. It probably has more to do with where she is going. Stanford is literally the hardest school in the country to get into, and while the coaches can get these students some wiggle room with grades and standardized testing, the kids still need to meet minimum requirements. This is most likely a year to get grades up, get the required AP classes in, study for SAT, ACT, then hopefully roll the dice to gain admission. The advantage of reclassing in this case, is most likely for academics, so I suppose it is still a wealthy family option, but I have zero problem with it.
--- "You can call it what ever you want, but the girl is entering college a year after what would be typical. It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ---

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It is not a privilege reserved for the wealthy and it is not a reclass. In most cases, the student athlete is asked to do a PG year by the college coach, most of the time it is academic related and most of the time it is done with kids who are committed to the best academic schools. If the student athlete has a commitment from lets say Princeton, Yale, Stanford but needs to pull their grade up a bit most prep schools will take the kid (at least on the boys side) and there is plenty of financial aid available for students who need the help and even for some who are wealthy. It benefits all parties, student, prep school and University. The prep school gets another kid that graduates and goes to a top university, the athlete gets to mature and the college coach get the player that they want. Many of these prep schools have huge endowments so financial aid is generous. The players do not do a PG year in order to get recruited, they are already recruited, they do it so they can mature academically (so the coach can get them through admissions) as well as athletically.

Many of these Boarding Schools want to have competitive athletics as well as competitive academics and they want to place students at the very best Universities, If the coach really wants the player, they have the ability to make it affordable.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj3nanjw771AhUpjIkEHQiqA-kQFnoECAsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boardingschoolreview.com%2Ftop-twenty-schools-listing%2Flargest-endowments%2Fschools-with-students-between-200-and-400&usg=AOvVaw2kYGDx5xSG3kpmv4Xk77ws
The reclassify early in youth and then HS is disgusting in my opinion. What happens after HS and prep schools might be questionable in some instances but maybe not the one that is being currently talked about.
Stanford is a top school athletically that has extremely high academic standards. If my daughter was recruited by them and told she needed to go to prep school to get her grades up,,, well I would be a fool not to do everything humanly possible to make it happen.
Hopefully this isn’t going to be a trend so that people with modest means don’t have the pressure to keep up.
Remember we are talking about education and a game.
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The reclassify early in youth and then HS is disgusting in my opinion. What happens after HS and prep schools might be questionable in some instances but maybe not the one that is being currently talked about.
Stanford is a top school athletically that has extremely high academic standards. If my daughter was recruited by them and told she needed to go to prep school to get her grades up,,, well I would be a fool not to do everything humanly possible to make it happen.
Hopefully this isn’t going to be a trend so that people with modest means don’t have the pressure to keep up.
Remember we are talking about education and a game.

The boarding schools have the ability to be generous with financial aid. If the school / coach wants to admit the student athlete the school will make attendance affordable. These schools have endowments in the Hundreds of Millions in some cases maybe even in Billions. I have not seen many girls go the PG route but it is used frequently with boys. Maybe the girls just have better grades than the boys 😁.

In any event, most student athletes that choose to do a PG year do it in order to bolster their academic credentials because they already have the commitment but they don’t have the grades necessary to get accepted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

You can reclass just about any time. A 2023 just reclassed last week to take a spot at Stanford as a 24.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)


Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

Is this the same coach that was at YJ

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

You can reclass just about any time. A 2023 just reclassed last week to take a spot at Stanford as a 24.

You are a little late to the party... and If the information on here is accurate the 23 is not reclassing, she will be doing a PG year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

You can reclass just about any time. A 2023 just reclassed last week to take a spot at Stanford as a 24.

Yes -but is there a limit as to how many times you reclassify?
Or how many PG years can you?
what does PG stand for?
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what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate.
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what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate. I believe it was originally used by wealthy families whose kids didn’t have the grade coming out of HS to get into elite universities. It than became a way for student athletes who didn’t have the grades to get into a college even with the help of a coach. Many athletes from many sports use the PG year in order to get into college. Many college coaches would like all of their recruits to do a PG year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

Is this the same coach that was at YJ

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]UA150 deadline is today. Any comments on it of any kind would be appreciated. (application process, evaluation, experience, value)


Best in class is way less political. UA is about the club coaches favorites. If your team has a mommy or daddy coachs kid who applies expect them to get an automatic spot because they will give a spot to their own child before anyone else’s.

Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

Is this the same coach that was at YJ

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91

Is there an explanation behind why she isn’t showing up?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate. I believe it was originally used by wealthy families whose kids didn’t have the grade coming out of HS to get into elite universities. It than became a way for student athletes who didn’t have the grades to get into a college even with the help of a coach. Many athletes from many sports use the PG year in order to get into college. Many college coaches would like all of their recruits to do a PG year.

Aside from this Stanford story..

While prep schools happen for kids from wealthy and non traditional hot beds for lacrosse, the PG year is not necessarily common. If you have a good player and student that already plays in a hot bed why would you waste the 70k and take the kid away from friends and family?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what does PG stand for?

Post Graduate. I believe it was originally used by wealthy families whose kids didn’t have the grade coming out of HS to get into elite universities. It than became a way for student athletes who didn’t have the grades to get into a college even with the help of a coach. Many athletes from many sports use the PG year in order to get into college. Many college coaches would like all of their recruits to do a PG year.

Aside from this Stanford story..

While prep schools happen for kids from wealthy and non traditional hot beds for lacrosse, the PG year is not necessarily common. If you have a good player and student that already plays in a hot bed why would you waste the 70k and take the kid away from friends and family?

It seems that PGing is more common on the boys side and whether from a hotbed or not it is a way for the kid to improve their grades and test scores so the coach can get the kid through admissions at the most competitive universities. I believe that in the vast majority of cases the player will have a commitment from the college coach before doing the PG year. They go in knowing that they will be attending Duke, Yale, Princeton, Harvard etc…
I do not believe many are paying full freight. I’m sure for some (especially boys) it is a great opportunity even if it is not used to get into one of the most competitive universities. Late bloomers are much more common with boys the extra year to mature academically, physically and socially can be beneficial especially for a kid that is young for the grade.
Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.
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Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

The same people who complain about PG’s, reclassing, holdbacks, $$ are the same who cry politics, connections, friends and family etc…. If their daughter doesn’t make a team or get selected to an event or get ranked by Inside Lacrosse they cry foul. When their daughter doesn’t receive offers from the top Lacrosse programs these parents will come up with excuses as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

The same people who complain about PG’s, reclassing, holdbacks, $$ are the same who cry politics, connections, friends and family etc…. If their daughter doesn’t make a team or get selected to an event or get ranked by Inside Lacrosse they cry foul. When their daughter doesn’t receive offers from the top Lacrosse programs these parents will come up with excuses as well.

Not necessarily. All my kids have done quite well. Recruited to top programs, and play. The have always made the lists and special teams. I still am not a fan of those who game the system to get an advantage over others. It’s called character.
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Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

I like what you are saying regarding academics and enjoying the life experience.
How common is this prep school thing for girls lacrosse?
Have heard of hockey players going to prep and then juniors but not many lacrosse players from our area.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

What are some strong lacrosse prep schools?
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Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

I like what you are saying regarding academics and enjoying the life experience.
How common is this prep school thing for girls lacrosse?
Have heard of hockey players going to prep and then juniors but not many lacrosse players from our area.

I agree, and I definitely think the Prep school route is going to become more and more popular for girls playing Lacrosse. The Prep teams will get better and better and recruit good players as well. Like they do with boys teams. Then you get the best of both with academics and sport! Unfortunately, it will continue to be more for the wealthy as the schools are crazy expensive!
No one is crying about PG schools. Just saying it’s another advantage for the wealthy. Most families can not afford to go this route.
Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.[/quote]

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.[/quote]

Is this the same coach that was at YJ[/quote]

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91[/quote]

Is there an explanation behind why she isn’t showing up?[/quote]

I don’t think a coach is going to tell their players what they have going on that’s more important than their job. If you sign on to coach, you make that commitment and stick to it. You show up no questions asked.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop the crying about post graduate schools, they have been around for over a hundred years! Look at the link a poster put in the thread to get an idea of the countless ones out there. Sure, they have been mostly a hammerhead for the wealthier people to get their kids into better schools. They are now commonly used in basketball, football, volleyball, lacrosse, swimming, field hockey, etc to get kids academics up so they don't fail out freshman year. It's an extra year that is often covered by large scholarships for families without the means. The rich pay the full cost and make large donations, that money helps cover the scholarships to needier kids. It's really the same as college admissions, admissions are based on a combination of academic and athletic merit for some kids. If your looking to get athletic scholarship $ from colleges, learn what tools are out there. If your a top level player, then coaches will do what they can to get the best players, their job depends on it!.

News flash, there is 100 times more academic money available than athletic scholarships. Sports can open some doors for kids that academics won't, but there are only 8-10 spots for each college lacrosse class versus 1,500 spots for an entire freshman class at an elite college. Where is the kids time better spent, on the wall or at a desk? It is different for every kid and takes real perspective and honest conversations with your kid.

IMHO, most of the venom on this site is just from frustrated parents that have had their head in the sand for 10 years as they dream of their girl getting paid to go to an elite university. Let your fantasy go and let your daughter enjoy a great ride that has a lot of bumps and turns, but is full of great life lessons and your daughter will have been surrounded with terrific group of young women. Sorry to be preachy, but lacrosse is full of amazing young women that often gets lost in the recruiting craziness.

I like what you are saying regarding academics and enjoying the life experience.
How common is this prep school thing for girls lacrosse?
Have heard of hockey players going to prep and then juniors but not many lacrosse players from our area.

I agree, and I definitely think the Prep school route is going to become more and more popular for girls playing Lacrosse. The Prep teams will get better and better and recruit good players as well. Like they do with boys teams. Then you get the best of both with academics and sport! Unfortunately, it will continue to be more for the wealthy as the schools are crazy expensive!

Prep schools are already well established.
Some are more prominent as hockey while others are good at basketball and other sports. I can only think of one male lacrosse school- Trinity Pawling. I’m not saying there aren’t ones for the girls but don’t know of any. I always thought that a good amount of the kids were choosing to go to prep because 1. They were wealthy and 2.weren’t from a traditional hot bed and wanted to increase their competition and exposure
The PG year has been around for a while and only becoming more of a factor for athletes. IMG already blurs the line about academics before athletics at the high school level. There are more IMG's coming, they could and probably should franchise north and west(haha).

I don't mean to make IMG out as evil. The private, prep, and/or parochial high schools all recruit their region just like a college does and charges money to play there. Look at the top 10 rankings of the major sports in any state now and only 2-5 are public schools. I looking at you LI and MD.

It will never be fair to a lot of the parents. The best way to level the field is simple. Practice, practice and smart training while the other kids are on their phones. The formula for success hasn't changed in 100 years, just more helicopter parents throwing money at clubs believing the promises.
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No one is crying about PG schools. Just saying it’s another advantage for the wealthy. Most families can not afford to go this route.

Sounds like complaining to me.
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The PG year has been around for a while and only becoming more of a factor for athletes. IMG already blurs the line about academics before athletics at the high school level. There are more IMG's coming, they could and probably should franchise north and west(haha).

I don't mean to make IMG out as evil. The private, prep, and/or parochial high schools all recruit their region just like a college does and charges money to play there. Look at the top 10 rankings of the major sports in any state now and only 2-5 are public schools. I looking at you LI and MD.

It will never be fair to a lot of the parents. The best way to level the field is simple. Practice, practice and smart training while the other kids are on their phones. The formula for success hasn't changed in 100 years, just more helicopter parents throwing money at clubs believing the promises.

Hmmm good insight. Is IMG only in Florida right now? Do you really think that IMG could grab girls from traditional hot beds and convince their parents to pay?
Its crazy to think about because non revenue sports don’t have much athletic scholarship $$ and the ivy and Nescac don’t give money unless need based.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PG year has been around for a while and only becoming more of a factor for athletes. IMG already blurs the line about academics before athletics at the high school level. There are more IMG's coming, they could and probably should franchise north and west(haha).

I don't mean to make IMG out as evil. The private, prep, and/or parochial high schools all recruit their region just like a college does and charges money to play there. Look at the top 10 rankings of the major sports in any state now and only 2-5 are public schools. I looking at you LI and MD.

It will never be fair to a lot of the parents. The best way to level the field is simple. Practice, practice and smart training while the other kids are on their phones. The formula for success hasn't changed in 100 years, just more helicopter parents throwing money at clubs believing the promises.

Hmmm good insight. Is IMG only in Florida right now? Do you really think that IMG could grab girls from traditional hot beds and convince their parents to pay?
Its crazy to think about because non revenue sports don’t have much athletic scholarship $$ and the ivy and Nescac don’t give money unless need based.

IMG is overrated
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PG year has been around for a while and only becoming more of a factor for athletes. IMG already blurs the line about academics before athletics at the high school level. There are more IMG's coming, they could and probably should franchise north and west(haha).

I don't mean to make IMG out as evil. The private, prep, and/or parochial high schools all recruit their region just like a college does and charges money to play there. Look at the top 10 rankings of the major sports in any state now and only 2-5 are public schools. I looking at you LI and MD.

It will never be fair to a lot of the parents. The best way to level the field is simple. Practice, practice and smart training while the other kids are on their phones. The formula for success hasn't changed in 100 years, just more helicopter parents throwing money at clubs believing the promises.

Hmmm good insight. Is IMG only in Florida right now? Do you really think that IMG could grab girls from traditional hot beds and convince their parents to pay?
Its crazy to think about because non revenue sports don’t have much athletic scholarship $$ and the ivy and Nescac don’t give money unless need based.

IMG is overrated

I just did some research and I can’t see IMG doing much with Wonens lax. They may have placed a few girls but nothing crazy. They do all sports and appear to be more focused on baseball and a few other sports. They are buying up land around the original campus so wouldn’t be suprised to eventually see some building but nothing imminent. Traditional hot beds would have no reason to look down there at this time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PG year has been around for a while and only becoming more of a factor for athletes. IMG already blurs the line about academics before athletics at the high school level. There are more IMG's coming, they could and probably should franchise north and west(haha).

I don't mean to make IMG out as evil. The private, prep, and/or parochial high schools all recruit their region just like a college does and charges money to play there. Look at the top 10 rankings of the major sports in any state now and only 2-5 are public schools. I looking at you LI and MD.

It will never be fair to a lot of the parents. The best way to level the field is simple. Practice, practice and smart training while the other kids are on their phones. The formula for success hasn't changed in 100 years, just more helicopter parents throwing money at clubs believing the promises.

Hmmm good insight. Is IMG only in Florida right now? Do you really think that IMG could grab girls from traditional hot beds and convince their parents to pay?
Its crazy to think about because non revenue sports don’t have much athletic scholarship $$ and the ivy and Nescac don’t give money unless need based.

IMG is overrated

I just did some research and I can’t see IMG doing much with Wonens lax. They may have placed a few girls but nothing crazy. They do all sports and appear to be more focused on baseball and a few other sports. They are buying up land around the original campus so wouldn’t be suprised to eventually see some building but nothing imminent. Traditional hot beds would have no reason to look down there at this time.

IMG didn’t really benefit the 2022 women’s lacrosse recruits and not trending high for the 2023 recruits either.
Don’t you all realize that nobody cares about girls lacrosse. There are no scholarships for girls to attend PG years. If you can afford that great! A luxury for the well off. Otherwise play your card and send your daughter to the best school she can attend academically. Will pay off the rest of her life!
I must say…the chatter about PG years is comical. My son went….not for a sport… but Bc he struggled in school snd needed some guidance. He played lacrosse but did not play in college. The judgements here are unbelievable. No one has any idea what others are going through. Keep it positive….especially now.
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I must say…the chatter about PG years is comical. My son went….not for a sport… but Bc he struggled in school snd needed some guidance. He played lacrosse but did not play in college. The judgements here are unbelievable. No one has any idea what others are going through. Keep it positive….especially now.

I think people are just discussing this at this point. Do you really think it’s negative?
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Don’t you all realize that nobody cares about girls lacrosse. There are no scholarships for girls to attend PG years. If you can afford that great! A luxury for the well off. Otherwise play your card and send your daughter to the best school she can attend academically. Will pay off the rest of her life!

That’s basically what the post a few before you said. Not much athletic money for non revenue sports.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must say…the chatter about PG years is comical. My son went….not for a sport… but Bc he struggled in school snd needed some guidance. He played lacrosse but did not play in college. The judgements here are unbelievable. No one has any idea what others are going through. Keep it positive….especially now.

This is a lax board and they are talking about pg to play lax but thanks for offering nothing to the board.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must say…the chatter about PG years is comical. My son went….not for a sport… but Bc he struggled in school snd needed some guidance. He played lacrosse but did not play in college. The judgements here are unbelievable. No one has any idea what others are going through. Keep it positive….especially now.

This is a lax board and they are talking about pg to play lax but thanks for offering nothing to the board.

Not negative, Just a discussion about Preps and recruiting. However, isn’t PG and re-classifying two different conversations pertaining to this. PG done after recruiting age and re-classifying or repeating grade done before recruiting age?
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.
Amazed by this discussion, the amount of class envoy is astounding as is the apparent concern some folks have about what others choose to do or how others choose to spend their money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I must say…the chatter about PG years is comical. My son went….not for a sport… but Bc he struggled in school snd needed some guidance. He played lacrosse but did not play in college. The judgements here are unbelievable. No one has any idea what others are going through. Keep it positive….especially now.

This is a lax board and they are talking about pg to play lax but thanks for offering nothing to the board.

The decision to PG is generally made based on academics, not lacrosse.
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Amazed by this discussion, the amount of class envoy is astounding as is the apparent concern some folks have about what others choose to do or how others choose to spend their money.

Amazed? Really? It’s not envy. Just talking about advantages that can be bought in this respect. It’s like everything else. It’s facts that this goes on, nothing wrong with discussing the advantages. I think people accept this is facts of life about money buying advantages. The real discussion should be at youth level and making it more fair starting out of the gate. Give kids equal opportunity and make youth age based.
Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.[/quote]

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.[/quote]

Is this the same coach that was at YJ[/quote]

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91[/quote]

Is there an explanation behind why she isn’t showing up?[/quote]

I'm sorry are we surprised that there are issues with 91 or parent coaches netiher are even remotely surprising.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.[/quote]

Is this the same coach that was at YJ[/quote]

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91[/quote]

Is there an explanation behind why she isn’t showing up?[/quote]

I'm sorry are we surprised that there are issues with 91 or parent coaches netiher are even remotely surprising.[/quote]


You guys are clueless about her. She knows her stuff and the girls really like her. Enough with the bashing. 91 will surprise some people this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazed by this discussion, the amount of class envoy is astounding as is the apparent concern some folks have about what others choose to do or how others choose to spend their money.

Amazed? Really? It’s not envy. Just talking about advantages that can be bought in this respect. It’s like everything else. It’s facts that this goes on, nothing wrong with discussing the advantages. I think people accept this is facts of life about money buying advantages. The real discussion should be at youth level and making it more fair starting out of the gate. Give kids equal opportunity and make youth age based.

"More fair", Not sure that is realistic. While I think youth sports should be calendar year age based you will still have kids born on January 1 and kids born on December 31 and ever day inbetween. Age based rules would make it better but the people who complain would find something else to complain about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.
Omg !enough already with the bashing of other coaches and programs. Worry about yourself. This has been going on for months.
I was personally enjoying the recent information exchange that didn’t include any personal attacks.
It might be entertaining for some but this anonymous forum shouldn’t be the place to attempt to right a wrong done to you. Say it to their face and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazed by this discussion, the amount of class envoy is astounding as is the apparent concern some folks have about what others choose to do or how others choose to spend their money.

Amazed? Really? It’s not envy. Just talking about advantages that can be bought in this respect. It’s like everything else. It’s facts that this goes on, nothing wrong with discussing the advantages. I think people accept this is facts of life about money buying advantages. The real discussion should be at youth level and making it more fair starting out of the gate. Give kids equal opportunity and make youth age based.

Love when people actually get it! 100%
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazed by this discussion, the amount of class envoy is astounding as is the apparent concern some folks have about what others choose to do or how others choose to spend their money.

Amazed? Really? It’s not envy. Just talking about advantages that can be bought in this respect. It’s like everything else. It’s facts that this goes on, nothing wrong with discussing the advantages. I think people accept this is facts of life about money buying advantages. The real discussion should be at youth level and making it more fair starting out of the gate. Give kids equal opportunity and make youth age based.

1000 percent
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!

Does anyone know what happened down at Wofford with the head coach?

Do you mean Winthrop??? because they no longer have a coaching staff. They are in the process of hiring but not sure with the staff that was there prior.

Kara Concheck is the new Winthrop HC
Not sure what happened to the last one. She may have stepped away for personal reasons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.

what opportunities else where?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.

what opportunities else where?

Avoiding money grabs like this which are no way on the level. Girls don’t normally do these during heavy prospect years. There are better ways to get in front of coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.

what opportunities else where?

Avoiding money grabs like this which are no way on the level. Girls don’t normally do these during heavy prospect years. There are better ways to get in front of coaches.

Can you give some actual examples? You're just saying they're bad but aren't giving specifics.
What are the better ways? Just curious. If coaches can see all of this talent in one place and its a high level from all over the country, why wouldn't someone do it? Besides the cost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.

what opportunities else where?

Avoiding money grabs like this which are no way on the level. Girls don’t normally do these during heavy prospect years. There are better ways to get in front of coaches.
Have they said what college coaches are attending?
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Have they said what college coaches are attending?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Many of the top players are avoiding these for opportunities else where. They are an expensive weekend and take you away from what’s important.

what opportunities else where?

Avoiding money grabs like this which are no way on the level. Girls don’t normally do these during heavy prospect years. There are better ways to get in front of coaches.

Can you give some actual examples? You're just saying they're bad but aren't giving specifics.

Most of these are new. It’s used to just be UA and despite’s being a money grab and coaches knowing about the politics it may have carried some weight.
But Now forget it ,,because it’s a $1000 weekend and no coach is taking it seriously because it’s watered down with so many options and still political. If you can’t figure out what the better options are well I don’t know what to tell you.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any clue who will be the next head coach for Pricenton women's lacrosse after Chris Sailer? Thank you !!

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!

Does anyone know what happened down at Wofford with the head coach?

Do you mean Winthrop??? because they no longer have a coaching staff. They are in the process of hiring but not sure with the staff that was there prior.

Kara Concheck is the new Winthrop HC
Not sure what happened to the last one. She may have stepped away for personal reasons.

Great chance. She was the Fresno State Coach as they folded and also was a very successful HC at St Francis in Loretta, PA
Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.
You should be very cautious with these events , most college s that attend usually send an unpaid grad coach who has no say on recruiting, it’s just a way for these unpaid intern coaches to make a few bucks.
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Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

Are there individual school prospect camps going on at the same time as these events?
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Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

Thanks. I did see Jenny Levy’s daughter signed up on social media so I was asking.

How is under armour a money grab at $145 to tryout and play in the tourney? American Select is like $750 to play and uniform is practice gear.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep- expect YJ, 91, and any other teams with. mom/dad coaches to have their kids on those rosters solely because they are the coach. Their kids will be among the weaker at the event.

Yes she was a yellow jacket coach, went to bandits, and now is merged with 91

Is there an explanation behind why she isn’t showing up?[/quote]

I'm sorry are we surprised that there are issues with 91 or parent coaches netiher are even remotely surprising.[/quote]


You guys are clueless about her. She knows her stuff and the girls really like her. Enough with the bashing. 91 will surprise some people this year.[/quote]

No bashing going on IMO. If you scroll through forums in every age group for years and years it is the same narrative. At some point it just becomes peoples beliefs. I think it isnt meant to be bashing, but people just genuinely have a similar opinion.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
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Omg !enough already with the bashing of other coaches and programs. Worry about yourself. This has been going on for months.
I was personally enjoying the recent information exchange that didn’t include any personal attacks.
It might be entertaining for some but this anonymous forum shouldn’t be the place to attempt to right a wrong done to you. Say it to their face and move on.

Not a wrong done to me per say but frustrating to pay so much money for only 1 coach to show up
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Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

are you friends with college coaches? Our daughter was recently accepted to one of these "money grabs" despite not having political connections and when her name was released on social media her social media and her recruiting profiles god dozens of views and follow immediately. Seems to hold some weight, but I guess everyones own opinions.
Yes I’ve heard the same thing regarding BIC
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Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

I disagree. If a good amount of the best players are all at one location, it makes it a no brainer for college coaches. They can see them all at one time. People keep saying better opportunities and you said multiple opportunities. Please name some.
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Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

Well said. Not much substance here. Dime a dozen and attenpt to draw publicity for clubs and to make money.
Many times it’s an unpaid grad assistant who has no say in the recruiting process and a way to pay them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.

Sorry I’m not buying it. Do some research as to who is involved. It’s a money grab and very expensive weekend with no substance.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Omg !enough already with the bashing of other coaches and programs. Worry about yourself. This has been going on for months.
I was personally enjoying the recent information exchange that didn’t include any personal attacks.
It might be entertaining for some but this anonymous forum shouldn’t be the place to attempt to right a wrong done to you. Say it to their face and move on.

Not a wrong done to me per say but frustrating to pay so much money for only 1 coach to show up

This happened to the other team at our
Club.
In the future as soon as you just see one coach, all the parents need to email club director right away and keep asking when that second coach will show up. Put the pressure on. Director is skating by thinking yall don’t care.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.

Sorry I’m not buying it. Do some research as to who is involved. It’s a money grab and very expensive weekend with no substance.

Yup!! Everyone trying to sell the dream. Keep your money in your pocket and don’t fall for the hype
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

I disagree. If a good amount of the best players are all at one location, it makes it a no brainer for college coaches. They can see them all at one time. People keep saying better opportunities and you said multiple opportunities. Please name some.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Save your money , college coaches don’t care or pay attention to these dime a dozen supposedly all star events. Colleges know who runs these events and know that they choose their own players. Multiple better opportunities for your daughter to play directly in front of college coaches.

are you friends with college coaches? Our daughter was recently accepted to one of these "money grabs" despite not having political connections and when her name was released on social media her social media and her recruiting profiles god dozens of views and follow immediately. Seems to hold some weight, but I guess everyones own opinions.

I’m not the original poster but following this tread.
Yes we are friends with several current and former coaches and getting the same feedback. Save your money. Many of these Allstar events are not on the level and unless you have money to burn don’t waste your time. Everyone is looking to make a buck off of you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes I’ve heard the same thing regarding BIC

Hahaha
of course you did!!
Are you an investor.??
We are friends with ex and current college coaches. This is all about making money and publicity for certain clubs.
Did anyone hear the strong rumors of StonyBrook and Monmouth switching conferences? Maybe a few more?
It’s a work in progress. CAA looking to poach teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.

Sorry I’m not buying it. Do some research as to who is involved. It’s a money grab and very expensive weekend with no substance.

These events are drawing top talent in the 24 class. If you know any of the bigger names across the country they’re all attending. Many of them will be your top 5 schools commits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone hear the strong rumors of StonyBrook and Monmouth switching conferences? Maybe a few more?
It’s a work in progress. CAA looking to poach teams.

Yes it’s happening. Take a look at inside lacrosse. Maybe a few more clubs moving around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.

Sorry I’m not buying it. Do some research as to who is involved. It’s a money grab and very expensive weekend with no substance.

Yup!! Everyone trying to sell the dream. Keep your money in your pocket and don’t fall for the hype

I feel bad for people looking for guidance on here. So many people trying to make a buck and an agenda. Stay away from the money grab and hype.
Yes most likely
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have thoughts on the JR open ? Is it worth it ? I like this set up. Best in Class event looks skilled too. Thinking about these over American Select if coaches will be there.

Will college coaches be at the Junior Open and Best in Class?

Best in class far less political. Kids who get in are there because of their talent not because of who they know on the island.

Sorry I’m not buying it. Do some research as to who is involved. It’s a money grab and very expensive weekend with no substance.

Yup!! Everyone trying to sell the dream. Keep your money in your pocket and don’t fall for the hype

I feel bad for people looking for guidance on here. So many people trying to make a buck and an agenda. Stay away from the money grab and hype.

I agree with events from lax journal American select etc but I disagree about BIC. It really seems like a more genuine event
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Omg !enough already with the bashing of other coaches and programs. Worry about yourself. This has been going on for months.
I was personally enjoying the recent information exchange that didn’t include any personal attacks.
It might be entertaining for some but this anonymous forum shouldn’t be the place to attempt to right a wrong done to you. Say it to their face and move on.

Not a wrong done to me per say but frustrating to pay so much money for only 1 coach to show up

This happened to the other team at our
Club.
In the future as soon as you just see one coach, all the parents need to email club director right away and keep asking when that second coach will show up. Put the pressure on. Director is skating by thinking yall don’t care.

Good luck that same director or coach you are “Putting Pressure” on helping at all in the recruiting process.
People asked for an a opinion and people gave their opinion.
Many gave it upon their personal experience. Why do you seem to be taking it so personal? Or are you the one trying to sell something?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Omg !enough already with the bashing of other coaches and programs. Worry about yourself. This has been going on for months.
I was personally enjoying the recent information exchange that didn’t include any personal attacks.
It might be entertaining for some but this anonymous forum shouldn’t be the place to attempt to right a wrong done to you. Say it to their face and move on.

Not a wrong done to me per say but frustrating to pay so much money for only 1 coach to show up

This happened to the other team at our
Club.
In the future as soon as you just see one coach, all the parents need to email club director right away and keep asking when that second coach will show up. Put the pressure on. Director is skating by thinking yall don’t care.

Good luck that same director or coach you are “Putting Pressure” on helping at all in the recruiting process.


If they aren’t showing up to practice they’re likely not helping with recruiting either
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic
Ha! (I’m the one who wrote about pressure club director)
Better start some learning about recruiting and assume you will not get any help except to verify to colleges that your kid does exist in person.
The colleges are recruiting YOUR KID, not the their coach or recruiting director. There’s nothing wrong with asking about a second coach- it shows that you’re paying attention. It’s not like hounding them about why your kid is not playing.
Hit the books.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Hahaha , you are definitely nuts!
I guess the question is, why is this so personal for you?
Do you have something to profit from all the money grabs? Or just one? It does seem that way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Hahaha , you are definitely nuts!
I guess the question is, why is this so personal for you?
Do you have something to profit from all the money grabs? Or just one? It does seem that way.


Not original poster but these events are not all money grabs. This is a statement of opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Hahaha , you are definitely nuts!
I guess the question is, why is this so personal for you?
Do you have something to profit from all the money grabs? Or just one? It does seem that way.


Not original poster but these events are not all money grabs. This is a statement of opinion.

Which one are you invested in? If you cut me into the profits I will help you sell it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Hahaha , you are definitely nuts!
I guess the question is, why is this so personal for you?
Do you have something to profit from all the money grabs? Or just one? It does seem that way.


Not original poster but these events are not all money grabs. This is a statement of opinion.

Player goes to recruiting event and doesn’t get any interest from college coaches… parents call the event a money grab.

Player goes to UA tryouts and doesn’t make it… parents call the tryouts political.

Player decides to do a PG year …. And someone posted how it’s unfair to players in the grade below. Another posts how PG-ing is a privilege reserved for the wealthy.

Seems like a lot of excuses and complaining to me.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.

Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back.
Does anyone have any real info on jo? The website is terrible with no concrete info. Is there a list of coaches coming? It’s expensive. I’ve done expensive things for my kid in the past some better than others but this is crazy money imo.
This question is not being answered. Are college coaches going to be at Junior open??? $850+ to attend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have any real info on jo? The website is terrible with no concrete info. Is there a list of coaches coming? It’s expensive. I’ve done expensive things for my kid in the past some better than others but this is crazy money imo.

Sorry
You are best to talk to the people running the event IMO.
Always go direct to the source.
Hopefully they can give some clarity before you pay all this money. Coaches or not ask questions and try to figure out if you are getting the HC, the top assistant or the graduate assistant. Or nobody at all?
Good luck
Best in Class for girls, isn't this first year? No coaches confirmed, right? Any more info would be great.

Junior Open, first year also? Any coaches confirmed?? Any info would be great.

Under Armour is free after tryout fee. The Highlight teams will be full of 2023 and a few 2024 this year. Great weekend, but coaches know the 2024's will be at American Select. Still a great event.

American Select is a money grab. The best competition and the teams will be all 2024's. The sidelines were packed with top coaches for 2023's last year. Clearly was the top talent last year.

Is there another top recruiting even for 2024's this year??
Just talking of these tournaments make me wonder if coaches or assistants host events/clinics/playdays with no intention of finding a recruit, just need to pay the bills.
Lacrosse Masters series is supposed to be be decent though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just talking of these tournaments make me wonder if coaches or assistants host events/clinics/playdays with no intention of finding a recruit, just need to pay the bills.
Lacrosse Masters series is supposed to be be decent though.

College coaches do not do any recruiting, all of these so called recruiting showcases, prospect camps, and other events such as AS ands UA are money grabs. The college coaches only make offers to the politically connected and wealthy privileged players who the Club Directors recommend. Inside Lacrosse rankings are a joke and most of the players who are recognized will disappear at the next level. There are just so many deserving players out there who are not over hyped who go on to kill it at the next level that is why we see such parity in women's lacrosse. All of those politically connected players who go to schools like Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Stony Brook, Florida, Notre Dame, Penn, Duke etc... are just wealthy, politically connected players who game the system in order to play lacrosse. Don't waste your money on the money grabs, if you are good the coaches will find you, no need to play in front of an assistant coach because they have no say. The players who are overlooked are the real winners because they work harder, the players who make UA only make it because their parent is the coach and Inside Lacrosse only recognizes players who are connected those players do not work hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just talking of these tournaments make me wonder if coaches or assistants host events/clinics/playdays with no intention of finding a recruit, just need to pay the bills.
Lacrosse Masters series is supposed to be be decent though.

There are just too many of these events out there now! Almost impossible to figure out what is a legit recruiting event? Too many people making money on these events, including the clubs. That’s why UA was great, as it was legit in the past. At least you knew what you were getting, and it was free to attend and it was about exposing talent! It was not a money grab. Now, the politics of all the clubs are taking over and ruining great events. The almighty $ clubs can make off these events is ruining them. Clubs should not be involved in running recruiting events.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just talking of these tournaments make me wonder if coaches or assistants host events/clinics/playdays with no intention of finding a recruit, just need to pay the bills.
Lacrosse Masters series is supposed to be be decent though.

College coaches do not do any recruiting, all of these so called recruiting showcases, prospect camps, and other events such as AS ands UA are money grabs. The college coaches only make offers to the politically connected and wealthy privileged players who the Club Directors recommend. Inside Lacrosse rankings are a joke and most of the players who are recognized will disappear at the next level. There are just so many deserving players out there who are not over hyped who go on to kill it at the next level that is why we see such parity in women's lacrosse. All of those politically connected players who go to schools like Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Stony Brook, Florida, Notre Dame, Penn, Duke etc... are just wealthy, politically connected players who game the system in order to play lacrosse. Don't waste your money on the money grabs, if you are good the coaches will find you, no need to play in front of an assistant coach because they have no say. The players who are overlooked are the real winners because they work harder, the players who make UA only make it because their parent is the coach and Inside Lacrosse only recognizes players who are connected those players do not work hard.

This is just totally foolish. They will not just find you. Most kids are not Charlotte Norths and will have to do lots of legwork to get seen by and in front of the college coaches. College coaches do recruiting and are always looking for good players to help them win. They have to know who a kid is. It doesn’t take $s to reach out to these coaches and send highlight videos, and fill out their questionnaires. Don’t sit back and hope someone notices, get pro active. There are so many Lax opportunities out there at every level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.

Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back.

As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.

Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back.

As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.

Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.

Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back.

As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.

Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.

How what is being presented? The thread seems to be all over the place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, so many on here with a pessimistic outlook. How do you go through life with such negative views? Why do you complain about everything?
What causes you to be concerned about what others choose to do? Why care about how others choose to spend their money? Why do you make inaccurate and untrue statements?

Lol, not pessimistic at all. In fact, all three of my children succeeded to go to top schools all without trying to cheat the system. I feel sorry for people who have to manipulate everything in their child’s path so they can be noticed. Pathetic

There absolutely is a lot of pessimistic and negative sentiment on here. Certain people try to tear down events, teams, players, rankings etc…. And sorry but worrying about the choices that others make is a negative behavior. Talking about the advantages or privilege that others have is also negative. Life is not fair, to each his own.

Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back.

As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.

Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.

I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is not being answered. Are college coaches going to be at Junior open??? $850+ to attend.

Likely not. JO is very political. It’s their favorite kids. Same kids whose names the day over and over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best in Class for girls, isn't this first year? No coaches confirmed, right? Any more info would be great.

Junior Open, first year also? Any coaches confirmed?? Any info would be great.

Under Armour is free after tryout fee. The Highlight teams will be full of 2023 and a few 2024 this year. Great weekend, but coaches know the 2024's will be at American Select. Still a great event.

American Select is a money grab. The best competition and the teams will be all 2024's. The sidelines were packed with top coaches for 2023's last year. Clearly was the top talent last year.

Is there another top recruiting even for 2024's this year??

By far, the biggest recruiting events are the on-campus events and prospect days. They will be compressed this year due to Women's Lacrosse Women's.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Best in Class for girls, isn't this first year? No coaches confirmed, right? Any more info would be great.

Junior Open, first year also? Any coaches confirmed?? Any info would be great.

Under Armour is free after tryout fee. The Highlight teams will be full of 2023 and a few 2024 this year. Great weekend, but coaches know the 2024's will be at American Select. Still a great event.

American Select is a money grab. The best competition and the teams will be all 2024's. The sidelines were packed with top coaches for 2023's last year. Clearly was the top talent last year.

American Select will struggle to get 23 players since recruiting is done for them and cost so high.
I agree on 24 but some will still try UA to vow a senior all American.
25s will be at under armour
26 will be at American select.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best in Class for girls, isn't this first year? No coaches confirmed, right? Any more info would be great.

Junior Open, first year also? Any coaches confirmed?? Any info would be great.

Under Armour is free after tryout fee. The Highlight teams will be full of 2023 and a few 2024 this year. Great weekend, but coaches know the 2024's will be at American Select. Still a great event.

American Select is a money grab. The best competition and the teams will be all 2024's. The sidelines were packed with top coaches for 2023's last year. Clearly was the top talent last year.

Is there another top recruiting even for 2024's this year??

By far, the biggest recruiting events are the on-campus events and prospect days. They will be compressed this year due to Women's Lacrosse Women's.

Yes things are delayed and we were told that.
Coaches are still busy with 2023. Certain schools are still grabbing 2022. Plenty of opportunity and time so relax.
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.

Didn’t their coach in middle school quit to coach college ? They didn’t get rid of her
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best in Class for girls, isn't this first year? No coaches confirmed, right? Any more info would be great.

Junior Open, first year also? Any coaches confirmed?? Any info would be great.

Under Armour is free after tryout fee. The Highlight teams will be full of 2023 and a few 2024 this year. Great weekend, but coaches know the 2024's will be at American Select. Still a great event.

American Select is a money grab. The best competition and the teams will be all 2024's. The sidelines were packed with top coaches for 2023's last year. Clearly was the top talent last year.

Is there another top recruiting even for 2024's this year??

By far, the biggest recruiting events are the on-campus events and prospect days. They will be compressed this year due to Women's Lacrosse Women's.

Yes things are delayed and we were told that.
Coaches are still busy with 2023. Certain schools are still grabbing 2022. Plenty of opportunity and time so relax.

What is delayed?

—— “By far, the biggest recruiting events are the on-campus events and prospect days” ——-

The above statement is not accurate at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

An established club charging what LI clubs charge, should have a recruiting director available to girls to reach out to. RD should be there for advice and suggestions for the girls and guide them in some direction as what to do as far as recruiting in lacrosse goes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

An established club charging what LI clubs charge, should have a recruiting director available to girls to reach out to. RD should be there for advice and suggestions for the girls and guide them in some direction as what to do as far as recruiting in lacrosse goes.

Do clubs not give advice and suggestions? Your answer was vague. What specifically do people expect?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

An established club charging what LI clubs charge, should have a recruiting director available to girls to reach out to. RD should be there for advice and suggestions for the girls and guide them in some direction as what to do as far as recruiting in lacrosse goes.

Do clubs not give advice and suggestions? Your answer was vague. What specifically do people expect?

It’s been posted on here that certain clubs do not have a recruiting director or someone actively aiding in the process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.

At the begging of this team, they had a coach who now coaches YJ A when they were a 24/25 combo team. She quit and went to YJ with half the team now on YJ A and B. The middle school coach quit , she was a director, and left to coach at legacy and in college. The most recent coach, also a director, quit as well and left to coach at jesters. There is a trend, and it has nothing to do with the adults that left. The individuals who left are 3 of the stronger coaches we have had in the 24 age group. It is outrageous to claim that they let go of two coaches offered college positions, one who turned it down one who has now been at multiple colleges and a third who is coaching a top 5 team for the 24 class.

As a 24 parent who also coaches for a boys program and knows all of the individuals mentioned above personally I would really suggest that you do more self reflection into your program rather than pointing the figure everywhere else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

An established club charging what LI clubs charge, should have a recruiting director available to girls to reach out to. RD should be there for advice and suggestions for the girls and guide them in some direction as what to do as far as recruiting in lacrosse goes.

Do clubs not give advice and suggestions? Your answer was vague. What specifically do people expect?

It’s been posted on here that certain clubs do not have a recruiting director or someone actively aiding in the process.

What specifically do you expect?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.

At the begging of this team, they had a coach who now coaches YJ A when they were a 24/25 combo team. She quit and went to YJ with half the team now on YJ A and B. The middle school coach quit , she was a director, and left to coach at legacy and in college. The most recent coach, also a director, quit as well and left to coach at jesters. There is a trend, and it has nothing to do with the adults that left. The individuals who left are 3 of the stronger coaches we have had in the 24 age group. It is outrageous to claim that they let go of two coaches offered college positions, one who turned it down one who has now been at multiple colleges and a third who is coaching a top 5 team for the 24 class.

As a 24 parent who also coaches for a boys program and knows all of the individuals mentioned above personally I would really suggest that you do more self reflection into your program rather than pointing the figure everywhere else.

Are you really a parent?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

Expect nothing from the club in the recruiting process. Daughter played on YJ A, and the only thing we expected in recruiting was for the director to field questions from college coaches if they inquired and to pass along any inquiries that came from these coaches. Do the legwork yourself. Even the training and betterment as a player does not come from the club, our coach was a useless clown, again you need to go out and do your own training. We had a daddy coach completely looking out for his own, kid never coming off the field and running plays, named and designed for her. The only thing you can expect from these clubs is an opportunity to be on a field where college coaches show up and get a chance to see your daughter play, and even that should be up to you sending game schedules to coaches, telling them of your interest and asking them to come watch. Everyone on here has delusions that these clubs are going to make all the difference in recruiting, IT IS UP TO YOU!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

Expect nothing from the club in the recruiting process. Daughter played on YJ A, and the only thing we expected in recruiting was for the director to field questions from college coaches if they inquired and to pass along any inquiries that came from these coaches. Do the legwork yourself. Even the training and betterment as a player does not come from the club, our coach was a useless clown, again you need to go out and do your own training. We had a daddy coach completely looking out for his own, kid never coming off the field and running plays, named and designed for her. The only thing you can expect from these clubs is an opportunity to be on a field where college coaches show up and get a chance to see your daughter play, and even that should be up to you sending game schedules to coaches, telling them of your interest and asking them to come watch. Everyone on here has delusions that these clubs are going to make all the difference in recruiting, IT IS UP TO YOU!

Perfectly stated. Sad but true!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

Expect nothing from the club in the recruiting process. Daughter played on YJ A, and the only thing we expected in recruiting was for the director to field questions from college coaches if they inquired and to pass along any inquiries that came from these coaches. Do the legwork yourself. Even the training and betterment as a player does not come from the club, our coach was a useless clown, again you need to go out and do your own training. We had a daddy coach completely looking out for his own, kid never coming off the field and running plays, named and designed for her. The only thing you can expect from these clubs is an opportunity to be on a field where college coaches show up and get a chance to see your daughter play, and even that should be up to you sending game schedules to coaches, telling them of your interest and asking them to come watch. Everyone on here has delusions that these clubs are going to make all the difference in recruiting, IT IS UP TO YOU!

Perfectly stated. Sad but true!!

IMHO one problem many parents have is that they are not able to evaluate players/athletes in general and they really can’t assess their own daughters ability or athleticism. This becomes a problem during the recruiting process and when schools are not expressing interest they blame the club coaches and or directors. These parents will also come up will all kinds of nonsense as to why their daughter is not receiving offers or offers from schools they want to go to.

Simple formula…. Coaches watch players compete, coaches then recruit and make offers to the players that they believe can help their program.

If the player is not a top tier recruit, i.e. the type of player that will receive multiple offers from Top 10 caliber programs then it’s on the player to take action and market herself to the coaches at the schools she would like to attend.
It’s kind of like real estate, if you put your home on the market and it’s not selling it is most likely because you are asking too much, the price is too high. If you are expressing interest in a number of schools and the coaches are not expressing interest back you may be shooting too high, the player may not have what coaches at that level are looking for. There is tremendous opportunity out there for girls who want to continue to play. That said, the player has to get in front of the coaches at the schools she is interested in and make sure the coaches are very aware of her interest.
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

Expect nothing from the club in the recruiting process. Daughter played on YJ A, and the only thing we expected in recruiting was for the director to field questions from college coaches if they inquired and to pass along any inquiries that came from these coaches. Do the legwork yourself. Even the training and betterment as a player does not come from the club, our coach was a useless clown, again you need to go out and do your own training. We had a daddy coach completely looking out for his own, kid never coming off the field and running plays, named and designed for her. The only thing you can expect from these clubs is an opportunity to be on a field where college coaches show up and get a chance to see your daughter play, and even that should be up to you sending game schedules to coaches, telling them of your interest and asking them to come watch. Everyone on here has delusions that these clubs are going to make all the difference in recruiting, IT IS UP TO YOU!

Perfectly stated. Sad but true!!

It’s so sad that daddy and mommy ball has this effect on kids. I do agree leg work is on kids but clubs should assist in some way
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.

At the begging of this team, they had a coach who now coaches YJ A when they were a 24/25 combo team. She quit and went to YJ with half the team now on YJ A and B. The middle school coach quit , she was a director, and left to coach at legacy and in college. The most recent coach, also a director, quit as well and left to coach at jesters. There is a trend, and it has nothing to do with the adults that left. The individuals who left are 3 of the stronger coaches we have had in the 24 age group. It is outrageous to claim that they let go of two coaches offered college positions, one who turned it down one who has now been at multiple colleges and a third who is coaching a top 5 team for the 24 class.

As a 24 parent who also coaches for a boys program and knows all of the individuals mentioned above personally I would really suggest that you do more self reflection into your program rather than pointing the figure everywhere else.

Are you really a parent?

No way this is a parent. And the history lesson is not even close to being accurate.

The original director left and took half the team but they were an older team.
The next 24 coach and director was fired for a conflict of interest and it was bad.
And last year was a tough year. Not much winning or recruiting and they brought in somebody new. Sadly the the coach and director got let go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Give me a break. 91 will blame everyone but themselves. If you look at ANY thread on here you will clearly see that 91 is spoken about poorly at almost every grade level. This isn’t specific to the 24s, but continue to blame everyone else and enable yourselves. What’s lane is that you’d rather place the blame and piece together conspiracy theories rather than just fix the issues. This is why the program will be at a standstill: denial.

Wish I could like this post a million times. Not even talking about just 91 here but part of the issue with so many clubs and showcases is they like to blame everyone but themselves for the issues others have. In the real adult world in an office you don't blame your clients for your mistakes. Own up to your stuff and make it better or stop coming on here to defend yourself. You parents are mad coach isn't showing up, step up and show up. Your kids are mad you don't have enough recruiting help, help more. Get it together ya'll.

I am curious, what type of help are people looking for during the recruiting process? What are your expectations ?

Expect nothing from the club in the recruiting process. Daughter played on YJ A, and the only thing we expected in recruiting was for the director to field questions from college coaches if they inquired and to pass along any inquiries that came from these coaches. Do the legwork yourself. Even the training and betterment as a player does not come from the club, our coach was a useless clown, again you need to go out and do your own training. We had a daddy coach completely looking out for his own, kid never coming off the field and running plays, named and designed for her. The only thing you can expect from these clubs is an opportunity to be on a field where college coaches show up and get a chance to see your daughter play, and even that should be up to you sending game schedules to coaches, telling them of your interest and asking them to come watch. Everyone on here has delusions that these clubs are going to make all the difference in recruiting, IT IS UP TO YOU!

Perfectly stated. Sad but true!!

It’s so sad that daddy and mommy ball has this effect on kids. I do agree leg work is on kids but clubs should assist in some way

In what way? What do you expect them to do?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“Seems like a healthy back and forth of opinions with the exception of the recent bashing of the club coach.
It not hard to figure out that a current parent wouldn’t keep posting the same lame pattern over and over. It disappeared for a while but seems to be circling back” Quote

“As a parent whose been through this with kids now in college it is probably true what is being said in regards to experiences of players on teams. Parents with kids on teams they aren't happy with but stuck with will continue to belittle the program despite any negative backash on their kid. They won't go to the director or coach directly because then they could take it out on their kid, so they turn to the internet to trash talk and air out grievances in hopes it anonymously makes its way back to the higher ups. Smart on the parents part to be honest. In my time in the lacrosse world it is unlikely that others would have all the information posters have that is specific to a team. If they do, it is being told to them by someone from within so either way the team has an issue. The info spreading through parents of the team on here or it's spreading by your parents telling other parents who post it here. Either way, there is something going on with your program and coach that needs to be addressed.” Quote

“Yaaah I’m not buying it. Seems obvious to be something else. I think it’s pretty lame how it’s being presented.” Quote

“I look through all threads that are active and would have to disagree I think there is an issue with this team. Years ago parents turned to this forum about this team as well when a bunch of kids jumped ship in middle school. There has always been issues with the program and the team. I’m sure it’s a few toxic parents who aren’t happy who would rather hope that it gets addressed here and publicize the drama rather than put their name being it to their coaches or program.” Quote

This is a very old story and most of this happened a very long time ago. They got rid of the old coach from middle school and the problems from last year were ‘let go’. They were not very good last year but most are feeling the future is bright.

At the begging of this team, they had a coach who now coaches YJ A when they were a 24/25 combo team. She quit and went to YJ with half the team now on YJ A and B. The middle school coach quit , she was a director, and left to coach at legacy and in college. The most recent coach, also a director, quit as well and left to coach at jesters. There is a trend, and it has nothing to do with the adults that left. The individuals who left are 3 of the stronger coaches we have had in the 24 age group. It is outrageous to claim that they let go of two coaches offered college positions, one who turned it down one who has now been at multiple colleges and a third who is coaching a top 5 team for the 24 class.

As a 24 parent who also coaches for a boys program and knows all of the individuals mentioned above personally I would really suggest that you do more self reflection into your program rather than pointing the figure everywhere else.

Are you really a parent?

No way this is a parent. And the history lesson is not even close to being accurate.

The original director left and took half the team but they were an older team.
The next 24 coach and director was fired for a conflict of interest and it was bad.
And last year was a tough year. Not much winning or recruiting and they brought in somebody new. Sadly the the coach and director got let go.

We were on the original team- she was not fired for conflict of interest. They did not bring anyone new in or let anyone go last year, and I’d you ask about recruiting any members of that team will openly tell you how much both coaches mentioned did for them.

Those two coaches were fantastic and we were lucky enough to get one of the two in their second program before they moved to college coaching. The coach from last year chose to leave and told parents the exact reasons she left. It was screenshotted and sent to us The same parent who sent it to us was called directly by Spallina after complaining to the company she left and told that they wished she hadn’t left and it wasn’t their choice they made but she mad. Directly from the mouth of the owner. Unless he’s lying to people that’s what he told those he spoke to who complained about the coaching changes.


Unfortunately you’re still missing the point that this isn’t about past coaches. A parent turned to the forum about how they were unhappy with something going on. It seems the common response for these coaches and club is to return to the forum to comment excuses and blame everyone to protect their name. It would be smarter for those in charge to read the feedback and implement plans to fix it.
I’ve had enough of watching the staff of this program anonymously post excuses on here for any sort of complain. Your program stinks. If these coaches were “let go” it was a blessing getting them out of there. All three coaches are flourishing where they are and are better off working for girls programs instead of boys ones who slap a ponytail on their logo. I hope these three are so much happier being far far away from this toxic environment
Two more st ants kids added to best in class - oneYJ and one legacy plus one Commack Jesters player. Seems to be top talent for sure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two more st ants kids added to best in class - oneYJ and one legacy plus one Commack Jesters player. Seems to be top talent for sure.

Was this an application process?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!

Specifically, what kind of resources and exactly what would you like guidance on?

I’m not trying to be an Meanyjust trying to help people understand that parents and players have to take things into their own hands.

It appears that some of you are not able to articulate exactly the type of help that you are seeking.

I have been through this process multiple times, each time there have been a number of parents of players on kids teams that become frustrated and most of the time it is because they have unrealistic sense of where their daughter stands in relation to other players including teammates. If let’s say coaches from BC, UNC, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse, Princeton, Penn, Notre Dame, Duke and Virginia all watch the kid play on multiple occasions and none of the coaches are willing to offer the player a spot it’s not because the club didn’t help. The players that receive offers from programs of that caliber in general do not need any help.

If you are looking for help, take the time to identify specifically what you would like the club/director/coach to help with.

If you want them to call a college coach , then ask them to do it.

If you would like guidance on which camps to go to or which showcases to go to, then ask.

Do not sit and wait for the club…. Take action and ask for what you want / need.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!

Let’s be honest each club promises the moon and stars. Some tell you your child will be scooped up on 9/1. That’s not reality for 99% of the girls. 99% will not have coaches do home visits and make offers on 9/1.
They promise you (and every other kid playing for them) that they will advocate for your daughter. They won’t. They can’t. How could they for each kid?
You have to make a realistic plan with your daughter. Look at schools that academically and lacrosse wise will be good fits. Have your daughter cast a wide net of 50 or so schools across all divisions that she should be emailing with tournament schedules, high school schedules, highlight videos and such. Once she gets feedback from those coaches get your coach or club director involved
You have to advocate for your daughter and more importantly teach her how to advocate for herself.
Use every resource at your disposal iwlca website, instagram and twitter are a wealth of camp and clinic information. Have your daughter follow all the teams she is emailing and some dream programs that might have multi school camps.
If you are on Facebook join “ Educating parents of hs athletes on the college recruiting process”. The group moderator wrote a book to help parents. I found it after my daughters recruiting was done.
I will say there is a crazy push for each girl to have a lax resume. It’s insanely expensive and in reality those events are not where they will be recruited.
Don’t wait for any coach or club to put your kid first. You have to do that. Good luck
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!

Specifically, what kind of resources and exactly what would you like guidance on?

I’m not trying to be an Meanyjust trying to help people understand that parents and players have to take things into their own hands.

It appears that some of you are not able to articulate exactly the type of help that you are seeking.

I have been through this process multiple times, each time there have been a number of parents of players on kids teams that become frustrated and most of the time it is because they have unrealistic sense of where their daughter stands in relation to other players including teammates. If let’s say coaches from BC, UNC, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse, Princeton, Penn, Notre Dame, Duke and Virginia all watch the kid play on multiple occasions and none of the coaches are willing to offer the player a spot it’s not because the club didn’t help. The players that receive offers from programs of that caliber in general do not need any help.

If you are looking for help, take the time to identify specifically what you would like the club/director/coach to help with.

If you want them to call a college coach , then ask them to do it.

If you would like guidance on which camps to go to or which showcases to go to, then ask.

Do not sit and wait for the club…. Take action and ask for what you want / need.


Love this! It is certainly likely that even if you think your team, parents on your team, etc are happy it is possible they aren’t. There are a lot of unrealistic expectations that may not be able to be met, and when they aren’t they take to any source that will listen as some sort of odd revenge. If you aren’t happy advocate for yourself!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two more st ants kids added to best in class - oneYJ and one legacy plus one Commack Jesters player. Seems to be top talent for sure.

Was this an application process?

Yes application solely chosen on accolades and whole game and highlight film. No coach or club reccoemdnations. Based solely on talent. Great lineup of coaches and trainers at the event as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
“What specifically do you expect?”

At the very least some resources and guidance!

Specifically, what kind of resources and exactly what would you like guidance on?

I’m not trying to be an Meanyjust trying to help people understand that parents and players have to take things into their own hands.

It appears that some of you are not able to articulate exactly the type of help that you are seeking.

I have been through this process multiple times, each time there have been a number of parents of players on kids teams that become frustrated and most of the time it is because they have unrealistic sense of where their daughter stands in relation to other players including teammates. If let’s say coaches from BC, UNC, Northwestern, Maryland, Syracuse, Princeton, Penn, Notre Dame, Duke and Virginia all watch the kid play on multiple occasions and none of the coaches are willing to offer the player a spot it’s not because the club didn’t help. The players that receive offers from programs of that caliber in general do not need any help.

If you are looking for help, take the time to identify specifically what you would like the club/director/coach to help with.

If you want them to call a college coach , then ask them to do it.

If you would like guidance on which camps to go to or which showcases to go to, then ask.

Do not sit and wait for the club…. Take action and ask for what you want / need.

Well said.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two more st ants kids added to best in class - oneYJ and one legacy plus one Commack Jesters player. Seems to be top talent for sure.

Was this an application process?

Yes application solely chosen on accolades and whole game and highlight film. No coach or club reccoemdnations. Based solely on talent. Great lineup of coaches and trainers at the event as well.

So these spots werent chosen for who the girls coaches know?
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm
2024’s if your kid is good enough to play at a top 10+ school than the only tears she’ll shed is she signed at Duke not ND or Virginia not UNC / UPenn not Yale etc. If kids just really good than try a reach but get to several camps / prospect days or small multi school camps so daughter can get personally face to face in front of coach(s) of programs that are attainable. Make the coach who’s attending those big tourneys want to go see her play not just her team vs other team play. Good luck all
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two more st ants kids added to best in class - oneYJ and one legacy plus one Commack Jesters player. Seems to be top talent for sure.

Was this an application process?

Yes application solely chosen on accolades and whole game and highlight film. No coach or club reccoemdnations. Based solely on talent. Great lineup of coaches and trainers at the event as well.

So these spots werent chosen for who the girls coaches know?

Are u going to answer your own questions or are you waiting for somebody else to do it?
Junior Open....Yes, best I can tell its the 1st year. In addition to information being tough to find it says teams will be coached by HS and club coaches. Saw an ad for it on instagram showcasing an individual player that is attending from a club ranked in 100s I never heard of in Ohio. It does not appear to be attracting top level talent or college coaches. The ad also says to have credit card ready.

HAHA $850 right after the 4th no thanks. Hard Pass!
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2024’s if your kid is good enough to play at a top 10+ school than the only tears she’ll shed is she signed at Duke not ND or Virginia not UNC / UPenn not Yale etc. If kids just really good than try a reach but get to several camps / prospect days or small multi school camps so daughter can get personally face to face in front of coach(s) of programs that are attainable. Make the coach who’s attending those big tourneys want to go see her play not just her team vs other team play. Good luck all

Incoherent rambling.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2024’s if your kid is good enough to play at a top 10+ school than the only tears she’ll shed is she signed at Duke not ND or Virginia not UNC / UPenn not Yale etc. If kids just really good than try a reach but get to several camps / prospect days or small multi school camps so daughter can get personally face to face in front of coach(s) of programs that are attainable. Make the coach who’s attending those big tourneys want to go see her play not just her team vs other team play. Good luck all

Incoherent rambling.

I actually get what this person is saying,
In a nutshell…..

Stay away from the MONEYCRAB !!
And Anyone trying to sell you on the idea !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?

Seriously! Doesn’t matter how early the girl is , if the coach(es) is not interested in her. By the time the girls are 24s, the top 20 are prob. known for the most part. The ones who have to worry about 9/1 phone calls! Other than that, girls have time throughout the process to get seen. No need to panic in the Fall of 10th grade. Plenty of opportunities are out there for all the lacrosse girls. Relax, think clearly and be realistic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2024’s if your kid is good enough to play at a top 10+ school than the only tears she’ll shed is she signed at Duke not ND or Virginia not UNC / UPenn not Yale etc. If kids just really good than try a reach but get to several camps / prospect days or small multi school camps so daughter can get personally face to face in front of coach(s) of programs that are attainable. Make the coach who’s attending those big tourneys want to go see her play not just her team vs other team play. Good luck all

Incoherent rambling.

I actually get what this person is saying,
In a nutshell…..

Stay away from the MONEYCRAB !!
And Anyone trying to sell you on the idea !!

Again with the money grab nonsense. Why do people care what others do? If you want to send your daughter to an event send her, if you do not want to then don't send her. You do not have to go to any events or you can go to all of them.

I guess what the person is trying to say is that if your daughter is the type of player that is going to receive offers from Top 10 caliber programs the process will not be very stressful. If your daughter is not of that caliber you have to go to prospect days and camps. I agree with that, the large majority of players from LI will not be receiving offers from Top 10 - 20 type programs it just the way it is.

Not everything is a money grab, If there is a showcase/camp/prospect day or whatever and a coach from a school that your daughter is truly interested in I would say it worth going.

The reality is that parents complain when their daughter is overlooked, they whine if their daughter doesn't make a select team like Under Armour, they claim events are money grabs if their daughter does not receive interest or an offer after attending, they will bash the IL rankings if their daughter is not recognized and I am sure they will complain and cry politics when other players start committing.

Nuts!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?

Seriously! Doesn’t matter how early the girl is , if the coach(es) is not interested in her. By the time the girls are 24s, the top 20 are prob. known for the most part. The ones who have to worry about 9/1 phone calls! Other than that, girls have time throughout the process to get seen. No need to panic in the Fall of 10th grade. Plenty of opportunities are out there for all the lacrosse girls. Relax, think clearly and be realistic.

I would agree. However, from what I have seen with two that have gone through the process there are many unrealistic parents.

IMHO, the most important thing you can do right now is help your daughter try to identify what is important to her with regard to college.

What does she want, what is important to her?

Obviously academics are important as is potential major / field of study etc... look to match academic considerations with other variables such as: geographic location, size of school, public vs private, city vs suburban, affordability etc.... try to come up with as big of a list as possible and than prioritize/rank the schools. After you have that, put a plan in place to market herself to those schools. Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, don't be afraid to reach out to the very top programs/schools the worst thing that can happen is that they do not return any interest. Do not be an annoying pest but definitely have your daughter reach out to the coaches at the schools on her list and introduce herself (don't be afraid to get creative). Once September 1 rolls around be ready to add schools to the list if needed. Remember things can and do change quickly as players start to commit. Every time a player commits, a bunch of coaches have to move down their list. Utilize your club director/coach, your HS coach, current and former players if you know any from the schools that your daughter is interested in. Ask these people to reach out to see if the coaches will take a close look and see if there is any interest in your daughter. If your daughter receives interest from schools that are not high on her list or not on the list at all still engage with the coach and learn more about the school and the program you never know it just might be a great fit. Make sure your daughter introduces herself to all the coaches on the staff. Do not listen to people who say the grad assistant has no say. If the grad assistant or current or former player thinks highly of a prospect the Head coach will take a look and that is all that you can ask for.

There is always a lot of chatter on here regarding the Top Programs as well as the Top Academic Schools some of which are one and the same but the reality is that there will be a relatively small number of players from Long Island who will have the opportunity to go to a Top 20 Lacrosse School or a Top 20 Academic School. Probably 5 or 6 will go to the Ivy's and 15 - 20 to the top lacrosse programs, so be sure have some backup schools on the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

This same person posting conspiracy theories over and over needs to relax. No one is selling anything to anyone. This site is just a bunch of information from different people and most of it is opinions, but your narrative is very obviously trying to attack a few people. Whatever the reason for your attack, it’s not useful except for petting your ego and making you feel better. Grow up and get off the internet if you’re just going to complain about everyone else. No one here wants to read it anymore. If you have a problem with someone, go speak to them like a real man and stop hiding behind a keyboard.
There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

Yeah schools are looking at 2023z plus 2022 still dropping.
The high academic don’t make a decision til very late.so many of them are on 2022. Many D3 only want 2023 and older at this point at their showcases. It’s good to know and pass this stuff along for this group and next. We were told that even if they let you come as a 2024, that they are focused on the older girls. It’s crunch time for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

This same person posting conspiracy theories over and over needs to relax. No one is selling anything to anyone. This site is just a bunch of information from different people and most of it is opinions, but your narrative is very obviously trying to attack a few people. Whatever the reason for your attack, it’s not useful except for petting your ego and making you feel better. Grow up and get off the internet if you’re just going to complain about everyone else. No one here wants to read it anymore. If you have a problem with someone, go speak to them like a real man and stop hiding behind a keyboard.

Sounds like a Conspiracy Fact
There was some BS being talked about that wasn’t accurate. We all saw it and thanks for reminding us.
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?

Seriously! Doesn’t matter how early the girl is , if the coach(es) is not interested in her. By the time the girls are 24s, the top 20 are prob. known for the most part. The ones who have to worry about 9/1 phone calls! Other than that, girls have time throughout the process to get seen. No need to panic in the Fall of 10th grade. Plenty of opportunities are out there for all the lacrosse girls. Relax, think clearly and be realistic.

I would agree. However, from what I have seen with two that have gone through the process there are many unrealistic parents.

IMHO, the most important thing you can do right now is help your daughter try to identify what is important to her with regard to college.

What does she want, what is important to her?

Obviously academics are important as is potential major / field of study etc... look to match academic considerations with other variables such as: geographic location, size of school, public vs private, city vs suburban, affordability etc.... try to come up with as big of a list as possible and than prioritize/rank the schools. After you have that, put a plan in place to market herself to those schools. Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, don't be afraid to reach out to the very top programs/schools the worst thing that can happen is that they do not return any interest. Do not be an annoying pest but definitely have your daughter reach out to the coaches at the schools on her list and introduce herself (don't be afraid to get creative). Once September 1 rolls around be ready to add schools to the list if needed. Remember things can and do change quickly as players start to commit. Every time a player commits, a bunch of coaches have to move down their list. Utilize your club director/coach, your HS coach, current and former players if you know any from the schools that your daughter is interested in. Ask these people to reach out to see if the coaches will take a close look and see if there is any interest in your daughter. If your daughter receives interest from schools that are not high on her list or not on the list at all still engage with the coach and learn more about the school and the program you never know it just might be a great fit. Make sure your daughter introduces herself to all the coaches on the staff. Do not listen to people who say the grad assistant has no say. If the grad assistant or current or former player thinks highly of a prospect the Head coach will take a look and that is all that you can ask for.

There is always a lot of chatter on here regarding the Top Programs as well as the Top Academic Schools some of which are one and the same but the reality is that there will be a relatively small number of players from Long Island who will have the opportunity to go to a Top 20 Lacrosse School or a Top 20 Academic School. Probably 5 or 6 will go to the Ivy's and 15 - 20 to the top lacrosse programs, so be sure have some backup schools on the list.

What year is your daughter that this is your advice ? Does she play in college?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

Yeah schools are looking at 2023z plus 2022 still dropping.
The high academic don’t make a decision til very late.so many of them are on 2022. Many D3 only want 2023 and older at this point at their showcases. It’s good to know and pass this stuff along for this group and next. We were told that even if they let you come as a 2024, that they are focused on the older girls. It’s crunch time for them.

The statement: "The high academic don’t make a decision til very late" is simply not accurate. Many of the schools listed below are "high academic" and they do not wait to make their decisions.

​​1. Boston College
2. North Carolina
3. Syracuse
4. Northwestern
5. Stony Brook
6. Maryland
7. Notre Dame
8. Duke
9. Loyola
10. Florida
11. Virginia
12. James Madison
13. Princeton
14. Stanford
15. Denver
16. Rutgers
17. Drexel
18. Jacksonville
19. UConn
20. Penn

Also considered (alphabetical order): Johns Hopkins, Louisville, Michigan, Penn State, Richmond, Temple

Throw in: Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Cal, Georgetown, USC etc..
All great schools, but the only ones that are truly elite (top 10, under 10% acceptance), and have competitive lax are:

First tier:

Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
Hopkins
Princeton

*All of these schools come hard after their preferred recruits on Sept. 1

Second tier:

ND

Then you have a bunch of great lax and academic schools in the 20-30 ranked range like:

UNC
Virginia
Georgetown
Michigan
Florida
USC
BC

Then you have great lax, good academic (50+) ranked

Maryland
Syracuse
Penn State
JMU
Rutgers

And you also have those super elite schools that have weak lacrosse teams:

Vanderbilt
Cal
Columbia
Harvard
Yale

Girls target programs for many different reasons. Some are focused on winning a championship, others want to go to the best possible school they can with a particular major in mind. Others may want their parents or siblings Alma mater. Some are just happy someone wants them.
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All great schools, but the only ones that are truly elite (top 10, under 10% acceptance), and have competitive lax are:

First tier:

Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
Hopkins
Princeton

*All of these schools come hard after their preferred recruits on Sept. 1

Second tier:

ND

Then you have a bunch of great lax and academic schools in the 20-30 ranked range like:

UNC
Virginia
Georgetown
Michigan
Florida
USC
BC

Then you have great lax, good academic (50+) ranked

Maryland
Syracuse
Penn State
JMU
Rutgers

And you also have those super elite schools that have weak lacrosse teams:

Vanderbilt
Cal
Columbia
Harvard
Yale

Girls target programs for many different reasons. Some are focused on winning a championship, others want to go to the best possible school they can with a particular major in mind. Others may want their parents or siblings Alma mater. Some are just happy someone wants them.

I wouldn't use acceptance rate as a barometer.

Tremendous opportunity out there for young women who want to play at the next level but the reality is that most will not be going to these schools. In the 2023 class there are 20 - 25 girls from Long Island committed to the schools listed above, with maybe 4-5 going to the "truly elite" academic schools.
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There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.

Why would you post this?
If this isn’t an admission or guilt , I don’t know what is.
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There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.

Why would you post this?
If this isn’t an admission or guilt , I don’t know what is.

For the posters who’s daughter never played in these events or even applied to play in them , what are you forming your opinion on , on these two events? People come on here to try and get info. on events from people who may have some knowledge about them. They are expensive and people just want to get a feel from others, if they think they are worth doing? And, everyone’s opinion on worth is different. So?
This is my second one to go through the process. I see the word money grab a lot, but I a lot of the top players are doing them so there is a reason. The issue is determining which ones to attend if invited, so the more information the events can share about coaches attending is key I agree. The number of events and the costs continues to go up and don't expect that to stop in the future. Expect any camp or showcase to be $600+, less for a camp if you are commuting. Prospect days that used range from $100-$175 are now $175-$295. It stinks but I'm just happy this is my last to go through this. Good luck to everyone, it's stressful but try to enjoy this time with your daughter before she moves on to college!
Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.

Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies
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Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.



Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies


What’s the point of this post?
Nothing is free and all events, camps, tournaments, club teams, prospect days etc are trying to make money. That said, I would not call everything a money grab. I think a lot of people will label an event as a money grab if their daughter does not receive any interest from college coaches after doing an event.
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Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.

Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies


Those elite teams have a full roster of insane players and then the lowest teams have a few who could be elite given the right team and conditions. You don’t get better playing with people who are worse than you
91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people
By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!
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Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.

Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies


Those elite teams have a full roster of insane players and then the lowest teams have a few who could be elite given the right team and conditions. You don’t get better playing with people who are worse than you

Sorry, not trying to be mean but those rosters are not full of insane players. More like less than 10 probably 7-8 top tier players that will go to Top 10-20 college programs.
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!


They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late![/quote]

What were they saying 5 years ago that they are still saying today and what "claims" are you referring to. I'm not being a smart butt just very curious to understand what you mean
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

So you left five years ago and are on YJ? That narrows down who you are.
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

So you left five years ago and are on YJ? That narrows down who you are.

Not really. 91 team fell apart because everyone knew it was going nowhere. Quite a few girls went to YJ, including the coach and her daughter who are now on YJ’24. All are doing very well, but staying on 91 so long definitely hurt a few of those girls because they couldn’t break the starting line upon the ‘23 team due to politics
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

Some also went to legacy their roster has like 5 ex 91 kids
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

Some also went to legacy their roster has like 5 ex 91 kids

That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

So you left five years ago and are on YJ? That narrows down who you are.

Not really. 91 team fell apart because everyone knew it was going nowhere. Quite a few girls went to YJ, including the coach and her daughter who are now on YJ’24. All are doing very well, but staying on 91 so long definitely hurt a few of those girls because they couldn’t break the starting line upon the ‘23 team due to politics


Was it a 23 / 24 combo team? I remember the team being very good and then the final bunch of talent left after they lost to YJ at nationals.
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!


They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

What were they saying 5 years ago that they are still saying today and what "claims" are you referring to. I'm not being a smart butt just very curious to understand what you mean[/quote]

Curious as well. Considering you are on YJ now I’d be curious to hear what they promised years ago compared to what’s being promised now?
How many girls on average try out for Under Armour and American Select?
That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments[/quote]

Look at their commitments, they send no-one to top D1 programs. There is no reason to play travel if you want to go to Dominican or Pace - you can be recruited right from your HS team. They’ll sell you a big story about how they’re different than top programs but once recruiting starts, you are on your own. You can get a feel for how a program recruits based on where they send their girls: West Conn, Pace, Dominican. Hardly top collegiate lacrosse programs. Keep believing what they say about changing their program, but the proof is in their commitments.
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91 has been improving over the last 2-3 years on the girls side. This year I think a few teams in their program will surprise people

They were saying the same thing 5 years ago when my daughter left. All the best girls followed as well as the current YJ coach and her daughter. Nothing has changed. They make a lot of claims that are false. Run fast before it’s too late!

Some also went to legacy their roster has like 5 ex 91 kids

That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments

Well luckily they had a chance elsewhere. The 24s that left years ago are also doing extremely well.
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That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments

Look at their commitments, they send no-one to top D1 programs. There is no reason to play travel if you want to go to Dominican or Pace - you can be recruited right from your HS team. They’ll sell you a big story about how they’re different than top programs but once recruiting starts, you are on your own. You can get a feel for how a program recruits based on where they send their girls: West Conn, Pace, Dominican. Hardly top collegiate lacrosse programs. Keep believing what they say about changing their program, but the proof is in their commitments.[/quote]

You are exactly right! Even the coach knew this, which is why she left with her daughter. Look at the other 91 directors and coaches. None of their daughters play for 91. There’s a reason for that.
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That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments

Look at their commitments, they send no-one to top D1 programs. There is no reason to play travel if you want to go to Dominican or Pace - you can be recruited right from your HS team. They’ll sell you a big story about how they’re different than top programs but once recruiting starts, you are on your own. You can get a feel for how a program recruits based on where they send their girls: West Conn, Pace, Dominican. Hardly top collegiate lacrosse programs. Keep believing what they say about changing their program, but the proof is in their commitments.

You are exactly right! Even the coach knew this, which is why she left with her daughter. Look at the other 91 directors and coaches. None of their daughters play for 91. There’s a reason for that.[/quote]


You are definitely wrong. There are plenty of coaches at 91 whose daughters play for the program. Stop spreading misinformation
Insert gungho 91 dad in to defend the program we all know its coming.
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That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments

Look at their commitments, they send no-one to top D1 programs. There is no reason to play travel if you want to go to Dominican or Pace - you can be recruited right from your HS team. They’ll sell you a big story about how they’re different than top programs but once recruiting starts, you are on your own. You can get a feel for how a program recruits based on where they send their girls: West Conn, Pace, Dominican. Hardly top collegiate lacrosse programs. Keep believing what they say about changing their program, but the proof is in their commitments.

You are exactly right! Even the coach knew this, which is why she left with her daughter. Look at the other 91 directors and coaches. None of their daughters play for 91. There’s a reason for that.


You are definitely wrong. There are plenty of coaches at 91 whose daughters play for the program. Stop spreading misinformation[/quote]

Maybe it’s because they know there daughter isn’t that good? Want to stay in the small pond?
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That team actually had a bunch of very talented girls who are now committed or will be committed to top schools. If they stayed together they could have been a top team. A shame that organization does nothing for the girls and puts them in horrible tournaments

Look at their commitments, they send no-one to top D1 programs. There is no reason to play travel if you want to go to Dominican or Pace - you can be recruited right from your HS team. They’ll sell you a big story about how they’re different than top programs but once recruiting starts, you are on your own. You can get a feel for how a program recruits based on where they send their girls: West Conn, Pace, Dominican. Hardly top collegiate lacrosse programs. Keep believing what they say about changing their program, but the proof is in their commitments.

You are exactly right! Even the coach knew this, which is why she left with her daughter. Look at the other 91 directors and coaches. None of their daughters play for 91. There’s a reason for that.


You are definitely wrong. There are plenty of coaches at 91 whose daughters play for the program. Stop spreading misinformation

Maybe it’s because they know there daughter isn’t that good? Want to stay in the small pond?[/quote]


It’s fun to be the best player on a bad team. You get all the glory. Playing teams you beat 12-1 is fun for those kids that can’t compete with stronger competitors.
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By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.
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By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.

False statement
Sorry but Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education
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By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.

False statement
Sorry but Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education

What is false or misleading is the statement "Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education". You are painting with a very broad brush, there are approximately 119 Division I programs and the talent pool is extremely wide. It is rare for a top tier player to choose DIII because of academics. There are too many great academic schools that offer high quality lacrosse. It is not the same talent pool.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.

False statement
Sorry but Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education

What is false or misleading is the statement "Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education". You are painting with a very broad brush, there are approximately 119 Division I programs and the talent pool is extremely wide. It is rare for a top tier player to choose DIII because of academics. There are too many great academic schools that offer high quality lacrosse. It is not the same talent pool.

You don’t think that stellar students would choose academics over lacrosse ?
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By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.

False statement
Sorry but Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education

What is false or misleading is the statement "Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education". You are painting with a very broad brush, there are approximately 119 Division I programs and the talent pool is extremely wide. It is rare for a top tier player to choose DIII because of academics. There are too many great academic schools that offer high quality lacrosse. It is not the same talent pool.

You don’t think that stellar students would choose academics over lacrosse ?

The large majority of Stellar students who are also stellar athletes will choose to DI where they can combine excellent academics and excellent athletics. Excellent lacrosse players with excellent grade will have opportunities at schools like Princeton, Stanford, Penn, North BC western, Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame etc… many would not turn their nose up at Virginia, Michigan, UNC, USC, BC Dartmouth, Florida either. The talent level at schools like Vanderbilt, Cornell, Brown, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Georgetown, Cal is all higher than you will find at the DIIi level. Obviously it is significantly higher at places like Maryland, Penn State, Syracuse, Va Tech which are all very good schools that many find much more appealing than the DIII schools being discussed.

Nothing wrong with DIII but they are not competing for many of the same players that DI schools are competing for.
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By high academics I believe OP meant the NESCAC type schools or ODAC like Washington and Lee or Univ of Chicago, Vasser, Centennial Conference Gettysburg, Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, M.I.T., Bowdoin etc.
Those D3 high academics are committing last of 2022’s and are just beginning to check grades of 2023’s. Unlike Ivy’s or great schools like Norte Dame, Duke , Virginia etc they cannot use sport priority acceptance reference grades for school. Grades than sports not Sports and grades which is no way a knock on the D1 High Academics. It’s just those type D3’s cannot prioritize athletic ability over academic as easy as a D1. Not a knock just a reality. Before I’m attacked that doesn’t lessen any kids academics at any top school in D1.

I have a kid at one of each. Both experiences are amazing

Thank you for clarifying all of that. The high academic D3 settle very late.

It's apples to oranges comparison, few if any high caliber athletes/lacrosse players with excellent grades will go DIII. There are too many high quality DI lacrosse schools with excellent academics. There is a school for everyone but the high caliber DI and DIII academic schools recruit from different pools of players.

False statement
Sorry but Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education

What is false or misleading is the statement "Nescac and several of the others attract D1 talent looking for a top education". You are painting with a very broad brush, there are approximately 119 Division I programs and the talent pool is extremely wide. It is rare for a top tier player to choose DIII because of academics. There are too many great academic schools that offer high quality lacrosse. It is not the same talent pool.

You don’t think that stellar students would choose academics over lacrosse ?

The narrative regarding players "choosing" to go DIII because of academics has been around for a long time. The reality is that the majority of players who choose DIII because of academics do so because they are not offered a spot at the DI Schools that also have strong academics of which there are many. They do not choose DIII because the academics are stronger they choose DIII because they are not the caliber of player that receives offers from lets say the Top half of DI programs let alone the Top 20 - 40 which is where most of the strongest academic schools fall.
I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.
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I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.

Well said and so true
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I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.

Actually, most of the time DIII is brought up it is brought up by someone who’s daughter is going to go DIII. Nobody is putting DIII down, and the parents of kids heading to Top 10 lacrosse or academic schools are not the ones entering DIII into the discussion. Many DIII parents do in fact knock DI or imply that only the DIII kids focus on education/academics which is laughable.

I agree that there are tremendous benefits to playing a sport in college at any level. However, regarding the conversation regarding DI Vs DIII and academics it is the DIII parents who bring it up and then try to say their daughter is going DIII because she puts academics first. Some would call it virtue signaling. It the girl is a strong athlete with strong academic credentials she will most likely choose to go to one of the schools that has strong academics as well as strong athletics/lacrosse.
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I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.

Well said and so true

My daughter chose a D3 school because she realized after D1 official visits (she had offers from 3 top 25 schools. no top 10) that she wanted more of a college experience. She went on one D3 visit and she was surprised to realize that this was the best fit for her. She could compete for a National Championship, go abroad and join a sorority.. None of this would be possible at a 10-25 D1 school. Most of her teammates wanted that intense lacrosse college experience but some realize after years of being "all in", they want to enjoy a little more of a traditional experience. Thankfully we didn't need a scholarship and she was able to choose the less popular route.
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I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.


Best post on this site !!!!
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I am sure most of the parents that put down this school because its not ranked top 10 and that school because it's not Ivy have never played a sport past high school. DI, DII and DIII all give the girls a sense of team and structure. It's the most important part of their college experience and builds the friendships that last their entire lives. Playing lacrosse at any level makes them budget their time and is why so many of the girls come home from successful first semesters of college. It's a common story of first semester freshman year being the final college semester away for many kids because of poor time management. Please try to look at the big picture, the view is much better.

Well said and so true

My daughter chose a D3 school because she realized after D1 official visits (she had offers from 3 top 25 schools. no top 10) that she wanted more of a college experience. She went on one D3 visit and she was surprised to realize that this was the best fit for her. She could compete for a National Championship, go abroad and join a sorority.. None of this would be possible at a 10-25 D1 school. Most of her teammates wanted that intense lacrosse college experience but some realize after years of being "all in", they want to enjoy a little more of a traditional experience. Thankfully we didn't need a scholarship and she was able to choose the less popular route.

It's not the less popular route, a lot more girls playing somewhere other than DI.
Somewhat eye opening... If you have not had the chance to click on the link in one of the previous post here it is again and it is certainly worth the read. Very interesting, informative and helpful.

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships

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The ultimate aim of going to college is to get a good job. That may sound obvious, but many people tend to forget this during their course of study. They can become so wrapped up with grades, academics and, of course, partying that they neglect to put together a plan that will get them to where they want to be after the four years of school are up. You don’t want to be one of them. The good news is that this is totally avoidable.

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US News, Top Colleges, Universities for Internship, Co-Op Programs: https://www.usnews.com/education/be...iversities-for-internship-co-op-programs

Business Insider, The 25 Best Colleges for Landing an Internship: https://www.businessinsider.com/princeton-review-best-colleges-for-scoring-an-internship-2016-2

QS/Top Universities, 10 of the Best US Universities for Graduate Employability 2018: https://www.topuniversities.com/uni...universities-graduate-employability-2018

QS/Top Universities Graduate Employability Rankings 2018: https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/employability-rankings/2018

Times Higher Education, Which Colleges do Facebook, Google and Other Top Employers Recruit From? https://www.timeshighereducation.co...k-google-and-other-top-employers-recruit

Princeton Review, Colleges That Pay You Back: https://www.princetonreview.com/col...es-that-pay-you-back&sort=popularity

CNBC, The 30 colleges with the most alums at top tech companies: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/28/the-30-colleges-with-the-most-alums-at-top-tech-companies.html

US News, Top Fortune 500 CEOs: Where They Went to College: https://www.usnews.com/education/be...tune-500-ceos-where-they-went-to-college

College Magazine, The 10 Most Powerful College Alumni Networks: https://www.collegemagazine.com/10-best-college-alumni-networks/

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Our results of the top 30 colleges are listed below:

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1 - University of Michigan

2 - Pennsylvania State University

3 - Stanford University

4 - Harvard University

5 - New York University

6 - Princeton University

7 - University of California, Berkeley

8 - University of Pennsylvania

9 - Massachusetts Institute of Technology

10 - University of Southern California

11 - Cornell University

12 - Dartmouth College

13 - University of Washington

14 - Texas A & M University

15 - Yale University

16 - Northeastern University

17 - Purdue University

18 - Carnegie Mellon University

19 - Georgia Institute of Technology

20 - University of California-Los Angeles

21 - Claremont McKenna College

22 - Arizona State University-Tempe

23 - California Institute of Technology

24 - University of Maryland

25 - North Carolina State University

26 - University of California-San Diego

27 - University of Florida

27 - University of California-Davis

29 - Virginia Tech

30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical University
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?
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What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.
California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

That’s great! Thank you for sharing that. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

That’s great! Thank you for sharing that. Good luck.

Thanks - I should have added that 2024s tried out on Saturday and received their invites Monday. But public list isn't posted yet.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.

There will be a lot more than 10 commits before Presidents Cup in late November. But you are correct that tournament will be important for many.
Also, keep in mind that many coaches will already be revising the list that they made in the summer. As players commit coaches have to re-evaluate & prioritize their prospects and recruits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.

There will be a lot more than 10 commits before Presidents Cup in late November. But you are correct that tournament will be important for many.
Also, keep in mind that many coaches will already be revising the list that they made in the summer. As players commit coaches have to re-evaluate & prioritize their prospects and recruits.

My point was that unless you’re a top recruit you’re likely not getting an early commit. Those fall tournaments will be important for the majority of kids to move up coaches lists. Those lists we both speak of were developed this fall and this coming summer. That will be the coaches watch list. As kids commit elsewhere, different kids love up the list and occasional kids will be added as coaches interests are peaked. The key takeaway is that the fall tournaments for next year can make or break a lot of kids.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.


The fall is important for those who didn’t use prior fall to get moving to some camps during winter, spring and summer to colleges that daughter likes and more importantly is a fit for scholastically and athletically and coaches are possibly showing interest. To get those 9/1 calls coaches want to see you play not be forced to buy a new car that they have limited garage space for on reputation alone. There’s a lot of really good kids and really good kids with great reputations and way too many average kids with great “reputations”. Show them your not just reputation
Best luck to kids
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.


The fall is important for those who didn’t use prior fall to get moving to some camps during winter, spring and summer to colleges that daughter likes and more importantly is a fit for scholastically and athletically and coaches are possibly showing interest. To get those 9/1 calls coaches want to see you play not be forced to buy a new car that they have limited garage space for on reputation alone. There’s a lot of really good kids and really good kids with great reputations and way too many average kids with great “reputations”. Show them your not just reputation
Best luck to kids

If your team put you into good tournaments this past fall and this summer and your kid did their homework this winter you are in a really good spot going into fall.

If your team didn’t put you in a good place this fall and you weren’t proactive this winter, then you definitely need a strong 2022 fall
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.


The fall is important for those who didn’t use prior fall to get moving to some camps during winter, spring and summer to colleges that daughter likes and more importantly is a fit for scholastically and athletically and coaches are possibly showing interest. To get those 9/1 calls coaches want to see you play not be forced to buy a new car that they have limited garage space for on reputation alone. There’s a lot of really good kids and really good kids with great reputations and way too many average kids with great “reputations”. Show them your not just reputation
Best luck to kids

Coaches do not offer spots based on “reputation”, they watch kids play, they identify the players that they believe can help their program and they make offers to those players. It is not a complicated formal, they watch, they identify, they recruit and make offers. Reputation really has nothing to do with it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.


The fall is important for those who didn’t use prior fall to get moving to some camps during winter, spring and summer to colleges that daughter likes and more importantly is a fit for scholastically and athletically and coaches are possibly showing interest. To get those 9/1 calls coaches want to see you play not be forced to buy a new car that they have limited garage space for on reputation alone. There’s a lot of really good kids and really good kids with great reputations and way too many average kids with great “reputations”. Show them your not just reputation
Best luck to kids

Coaches do not offer spots based on “reputation”, they watch kids play, they identify the players that they believe can help their program and they make offers to those players. It is not a complicated formal, they watch, they identify, they recruit and make offers. Reputation really has nothing to do with it.

Agreed but maybe by reputation they mean their name being known due to awards, accolades, teams, etc.
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

So a bunch of 22 players figured out the best players from the tryout and no complaints ? Please have them do all the tryouts and all will agree with the picks for once.
Coaches do not offer spots based on “reputation”, they watch kids play, they identify the players that they believe can help their program and they make offers to those players. It is not a complicated formal, they watch, they identify, they recruit and make offers. Reputation really has nothing to do with it.[/quote]

Maybe my inference on coaches not wanting to buy new car to fill limited garage based on reputation wasn’t clear enough or misunderstood. My point being your “reputation” like playing for Top travel team won’t be enough to get you the 9/1 phone call(s) you want.
Plenty of prior posts imply that simply being on a top team at top tourneys getting some playing time will ring daughters phone. It won’t. Original point was to get high level skilled play in front of coach(s) not so much “ I’m on 3rd ranked team in USA ( any number ) for 9 years watch me play at xxxx tourney for 1 shift cause my team reputation will see me through. Unless a school yiu target is at your game(s) they don’t watch and it is reputation unless you get in front of them. Many times those 30 schools on sidelines are there to watch your 3-5 best players and they move on to do the same next game next teams. If your that kid you good. If you the other 12+ well maybe not
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

So a bunch of 22 players figured out the best players from the tryout and no complaints ? Please have them do all the tryouts and all will agree with the picks for once.

Unfortunately, parents will always complain. Many parents are not able to honestly assess their child’s abilities. September 1 is approaching and the college coaches will make their opinions known. The recruiting process generally lets players and parents know just where the player stands in relation to others. Just encourage your daughter to work hard and have fun. There is a good fit for everyone, help your daughter find it.
Weiners team won the UNC 7v7. Lots of talent on the team.
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Weiners team won the UNC 7v7. Lots of talent on the team.

I thought legacy did?
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Weiners team won the UNC 7v7. Lots of talent on the team.

I thought legacy did?

Mixed team with legacy and YJ
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Weiners team won the UNC 7v7. Lots of talent on the team.

I thought legacy did?

Mixed team with legacy and YJ


All of them will now get offers to UNC and anyone that lost will not. Congrats on the win.
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

So a bunch of 22 players figured out the best players from the tryout and no complaints ? Please have them do all the tryouts and all will agree with the picks for once.

Unfortunately, parents will always complain. Many parents are not able to honestly assess their child’s abilities. September 1 is approaching and the college coaches will make their opinions known. The recruiting process generally lets players and parents know just where the player stands in relation to others. Just encourage your daughter to work hard and have fun. There is a good fit for everyone, help your daughter find it.

There is a flip side to the anti-parent (parents will always complain) narrative. There are girls who go through this whole process, unproclaimed by politics and not pushed by club coaches or directors. Girls who just didn’t fit the narrative that a coach or director deemed “elite”. This is especially true when you enter parent coaches in the mix, or have directors pushing favors (and yes that definitely happens). Yet that same player garners the utmost interest among college coaches come recruiting years. Yes it happens, my daughter never received the praise or push that a few seemed to get on the elite team, but I can tell you, she received much more attention than nearly all those girls pushed by the club, come recruiting time. Truth is, a club had one person making a choice on a player, a single opinion. One opinion really should not make make or break a player, but sadly it has too much influence in travel lacrosse. The truth comes out during recruiting, when a player, not valued by the travel team coach/director, literally blows away the rest of the team with college coach interest during recruiting, from elite teams and mind blowing scholarship offers. This is a shout out to parents deemed as complainers. Of course the parents of the acclaimed kids will always call out poo-poo. Travel lacrosse is a dirty, sleezy necessity, but not all kids who are not deemed “elite” by the coach or director are doomed. Sadly (1) single travel coach with an agenda, can largely influence a girl’s college career or path based upon that single opinion, and that opinion may be serious wrong. Hopefully you can battle through and catch the opinion of the 350 D1coaches instead. I feel sad because I know it is hard to overcome, very luckily my daughter did! A light of hope for you who know there are definitely politics involved.
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California parent here. Just wanted to share update on American Select as we had our tryouts last weekend. Stanford players were the evaluators. Coaches for teams were NOT present. Seems about as unbiased as you can get. Team rosters will be made public later this week I am told.

So a bunch of 22 players figured out the best players from the tryout and no complaints ? Please have them do all the tryouts and all will agree with the picks for once.

Unfortunately, parents will always complain. Many parents are not able to honestly assess their child’s abilities. September 1 is approaching and the college coaches will make their opinions known. The recruiting process generally lets players and parents know just where the player stands in relation to others. Just encourage your daughter to work hard and have fun. There is a good fit for everyone, help your daughter find it.

There is a flip side to the anti-parent (parents will always complain) narrative. There are girls who go through this whole process, unproclaimed by politics and not pushed by club coaches or directors. Girls who just didn’t fit the narrative that a coach or director deemed “elite”. This is especially true when you enter parent coaches in the mix, or have directors pushing favors (and yes that definitely happens). Yet that same player garners the utmost interest among college coaches come recruiting years. Yes it happens, my daughter never received the praise or push that a few seemed to get on the elite team, but I can tell you, she received much more attention than nearly all those girls pushed by the club, come recruiting time. Truth is, a club had one person making a choice on a player, a single opinion. One opinion really should not make make or break a player, but sadly it has too much influence in travel lacrosse. The truth comes out during recruiting, when a player, not valued by the travel team coach/director, literally blows away the rest of the team with college coach interest during recruiting, from elite teams and mind blowing scholarship offers. This is a shout out to parents deemed as complainers. Of course the parents of the acclaimed kids will always call out poo-poo. Travel lacrosse is a dirty, sleezy necessity, but not all kids who are not deemed “elite” by the coach or director are doomed. Sadly (1) single travel coach with an agenda, can largely influence a girl’s college career or path based upon that single opinion, and that opinion may be serious wrong. Hopefully you can battle through and catch the opinion of the 350 D1coaches instead. I feel sad because I know it is hard to overcome, very luckily my daughter did! A light of hope for you who know there are definitely politics involved.

You are actually making the point of the post that you are responsible to. “College coaches will make their opinions known” and “the recruiting process generally lets players and parents know where the player stands in relation to others “. Politics has nothing to do with it. The coaches watch players compete and they make offers to the players that they believe are the best and can help their program. Not sure where you come up with the one person theory? BTW, there will always be a lot of parents who complain and believe that their daughter is a top tier player when in reality she is not and will not receive any offers from Top Tier College Programs and the reason is not politics.
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What fall tournaments are 24s doing next year?

Presidents cup is probably the biggest one for the fall season

The Summer tournaments are far more important than any fall tournament. The first 2 tournaments of the summer are the biggest. The blue chip players will be recruited prior to the fall tournaments being played.

The top 10 recruits will get spots before any fall tournaments, but that’s not the majority of kids. If your kid is one of those top ten kudos to you, but there aren’t many kids who get that chance. For the general recruits, the majority, presidents cup is the biggest. The fall for the 24s is very important.


The fall is important for those who didn’t use prior fall to get moving to some camps during winter, spring and summer to colleges that daughter likes and more importantly is a fit for scholastically and athletically and coaches are possibly showing interest. To get those 9/1 calls coaches want to see you play not be forced to buy a new car that they have limited garage space for on reputation alone. There’s a lot of really good kids and really good kids with great reputations and way too many average kids with great “reputations”. Show them your not just reputation
Best luck to kids

If your team put you into good tournaments this past fall and this summer and your kid did their homework this winter you are in a really good spot going into fall.

If your team didn’t put you in a good place this fall and you weren’t proactive this winter, then you definitely need a strong 2022 fall

What do you constitute for a good place this fall?
I didn't write the post about fall events, but here's my take.

College coaches will be at Mid-Atlantic in November as well as Presidents Cup in Dallas.

On day 2 of Mid-Atlantic there were a ton of college coaches watching the 2024 players, with a huge line-up watching Lakeshore vs. M&D Black. Post game, they were around watching the other 2024s trying to figure out who is good and putting together their lists.

Not as many coaches were watching 2024s at Presidents Cup, as they were more focused on the 2023s and some of the last 2022s to fill out the rosters. I fully expect both of these events to be fertile recruiting grounds this fall for the 2024 players. These are the two best fall events for recruiting, IMO.
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I didn't write the post about fall events, but here's my take.

College coaches will be at Mid-Atlantic in November as well as Presidents Cup in Dallas.

On day 2 of Mid-Atlantic there were a ton of college coaches watching the 2024 players, with a huge line-up watching Lakeshore vs. M&D Black. Post game, they were around watching the other 2024s trying to figure out who is good and putting together their lists.

Not as many coaches were watching 2024s at Presidents Cup, as they were more focused on the 2023s and some of the last 2022s to fill out the rosters. I fully expect both of these events to be fertile recruiting grounds this fall for the 2024 players. These are the two best fall events for recruiting, IMO.

We had a lot at mid Atlantic and rivalry as well. Presidents cup our sidelines were also heavily stacked with d1 coaches except for the final day where we only had 4-5. The other days we had coaches from top 20 programs which was exciting for the kids.
This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

22s are basically done except d3 maybe. If you are taking the advice that 24s arent being looked at nor need to be actively involved youre only hurting yourself.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.

ProbBly the parent of a kid who didn’t have any coaches at their games all fall
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.

ProbBly the parent of a kid who didn’t have any coaches at their games all fall

To the poster who spoke of the importance of sophmore year based on his/her 22 daughter, I call BS. If you had a 22 you'd know that they didn't have a sophmore season of HS or summer due to covid.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.

ProbBly the parent of a kid who didn’t have any coaches at their games all fall

To the poster who spoke of the importance of sophmore year based on his/her 22 daughter, I call BS. If you had a 22 you'd know that they didn't have a sophmore season of HS or summer due to covid.

still got to play in sophomore tournaments and coaches live streamed the games or watched film from them and spoke to our coaches about them so please tell me how you know more than what happened with my family
I am not the prior poster but I also have a 2022. She did have a fall of sophomore year. Her team has coaches on the sidelines of all her fall tournaments including Presidents Cup. She also attended camps that fall and winter until Covid shut everything down around March timeframe. Even though Covid shut down her spring high school season she did play summer tournaments. No coaches were allowed because of NCAA blackout with Covid that summer so all games were filmed and given to players.( I specifically remember She played mid Atlantic and at the DE complex in a tournament that replaced G8 that summer which was canceled). We made a summer highlight video to send to coaches. She committed third week of Sept her junior year. I will say she did play midfield for a top lacrosse team and was on a well known high school varsity team as well (although as stated did not get a sophomore year). She had teammates that committed earlier than her and some that committed as late as the following summer before senior year. So the journey is not the same for everyone. But yes, the higher D1 coaches do watch sophomores in their fall tournaments. The mid to lower D1 will have a slightly later recruiting schedule and D3 will start almost a full year behind high D1 with recruiting.
So yes this fall coaches will still be watching 2024 but the top 2025s will have high D1 coaches on their sidelines.
I hope this helps
Soph is is huge though I didn’t post that. If it doesn’t go well of you on bench say on a great HS team behind than summer tournaments and some prospect camps are even more valuable. If you want the September 1st calls they are earned HS and / or Summer season with some Sophomore fall / winter early impressing of coaches.
Vast majority of Top D1 is done before November tournaments. Middle D1 mostly done and rest partially done. Past years usually 50+% verbal commits before Fall ball junior year..Plenty kids commit after Fall ball but it’s usually the lower tier D1’s ( in Strength of winning not of academics etc )
Cheers to the parents who have gone through this speaking facts! Not sure why someone on here wants everyone to think that 24s past fall wasn’t important. Seems odd to me. I’m assuming there is an anterior motive behind trying to convince the internet anonymously that fall didn’t matter.
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Cheers to the parents who have gone through this speaking facts! Not sure why someone on here wants everyone to think that 24s past fall wasn’t important. Seems odd to me. I’m assuming there is an anterior motive behind trying to convince the internet anonymously that fall didn’t matter.

This past Fall puts your daughter on the coaches radar. That will draw the coaches to the first couple of summer tournaments the sidelines will be lined with coaches. As the summer progresses less coaches show up. The top D1 coaches will be done with their 24s by the time Fall ball comes around and have moved onto the 25s. The Top D1 coaches at the Presidents Cup were there to watch he girls that they had already committed.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.

No doubt that somebody is relentlessly trying to cash in on FOMO.
Anybody who went to the fall tourneys and has been active knows that fall was severely overhyped.
Anything we did stuff may help but it’s not anything that we wouldn’t have seen in the spring, summer and fall.
It’s a long way to go for the 2024 group. Some will get offers on 9/1 while most will play out over the course of late fall, winter, spring, summer of senior and maybe fall of senior year. Enjoy it and don’t stress.
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This may be true but this fall was much too soon for 2024.
Ask the college coaches and they will tell you. 2022 are still being signed and look how many 2023s are committing every single day. Go to a D1 showcase this winter and see many 2022 and 2023. Hear the coaches say there are plenty of spots for 2023. Some good D3 programs telling only 2022 and 2023 to come to on campus showcases. Nescac and Liberty conference holding on campus showcases and only opening it up to 2022 and 2023.
Still plenty of time and a long way to go for 2024.
Enjoy the ride and don’t let a crazy coach ruin the fun.

No one is arguing that 22 and 23 kids are still getting looks but you are blind if you don’t realize that this year is important for the 24s with recruiting. If you want d2 or D3 it’s a little less important if a year but for d1 sop more year is important. This isn’t coming from my coach or program but my experience with my 2022 daughter.

I agree with the original poster, 2023 Girls are being signed now for many D1 and the D1 showcases are still looking at 22 and 23.

This Fall was important to cash in on the FOMO of the 2024 parent.

No doubt that somebody is relentlessly trying to cash in on FOMO.
Anybody who went to the fall tourneys and has been active knows that fall was severely overhyped.
Anything we did stuff may help but it’s not anything that we wouldn’t have seen in the spring, summer and fall.
It’s a long way to go for the 2024 group. Some will get offers on 9/1 while most will play out over the course of late fall, winter, spring, summer of senior and maybe fall of senior year. Enjoy it and don’t stress.

Exactly! Business owners say "50% of my advertising works, I just don't know which 50%." Recruiting is the same way. You never know what will get you noticed. Could be a tournament, showcase, camp,high school game or a highlight video. Do what you want to do, do what you can afford to do and have the time to do. Don't worry about what others do. Also think about things you have done in the past that in hindsight didn't make sense and things that did. I'm sure we can all look in the rear view mirror an think of things we were pressured into doing by coaches or other parents that turned out to be mistakes. Good luck to all.
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I didn't write the post about fall events, but here's my take.

College coaches will be at Mid-Atlantic in November as well as Presidents Cup in Dallas.

On day 2 of Mid-Atlantic there were a ton of college coaches watching the 2024 players, with a huge line-up watching Lakeshore vs. M&D Black. Post game, they were around watching the other 2024s trying to figure out who is good and putting together their lists.

Not as many coaches were watching 2024s at Presidents Cup, as they were more focused on the 2023s and some of the last 2022s to fill out the rosters. I fully expect both of these events to be fertile recruiting grounds this fall for the 2024 players. These are the two best fall events for recruiting, IMO.


Agree about presidents cup for the 2024s. We had more coaches watching at Lax For the Cure than Mid Atlantic. Maybe it was because we played more high quality teams.
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I am not the prior poster but I also have a 2022. She did have a fall of sophomore year. Her team has coaches on the sidelines of all her fall tournaments including Presidents Cup. She also attended camps that fall and winter until Covid shut everything down around March timeframe. Even though Covid shut down her spring high school season she did play summer tournaments. No coaches were allowed because of NCAA blackout with Covid that summer so all games were filmed and given to players.( I specifically remember She played mid Atlantic and at the DE complex in a tournament that replaced G8 that summer which was canceled). We made a summer highlight video to send to coaches. She committed third week of Sept her junior year. I will say she did play midfield for a top lacrosse team and was on a well known high school varsity team as well (although as stated did not get a sophomore year). She had teammates that committed earlier than her and some that committed as late as the following summer before senior year. So the journey is not the same for everyone. But yes, the higher D1 coaches do watch sophomores in their fall tournaments. The mid to lower D1 will have a slightly later recruiting schedule and D3 will start almost a full year behind high D1 with recruiting.
So yes this fall coaches will still be watching 2024 but the top 2025s will have high D1 coaches on their sidelines.
I hope this helps


To be clear, mid to lower level D1 are still watching in sophomore year and early junior year, they just aren't making offers on 9/1 because they are looking to see which of their targets didnt get top 25 offers.

As an example Central Michigan had 4 23s commit within the last 10 days. a couple of those girls were from top clubs where I assume they didn't get the top 25 offers
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I didn't write the post about fall events, but here's my take.

College coaches will be at Mid-Atlantic in November as well as Presidents Cup in Dallas.

On day 2 of Mid-Atlantic there were a ton of college coaches watching the 2024 players, with a huge line-up watching Lakeshore vs. M&D Black. Post game, they were around watching the other 2024s trying to figure out who is good and putting together their lists.

Not as many coaches were watching 2024s at Presidents Cup, as they were more focused on the 2023s and some of the last 2022s to fill out the rosters. I fully expect both of these events to be fertile recruiting grounds this fall for the 2024 players. These are the two best fall events for recruiting, IMO.


Agree about presidents cup for the 2024s. We had more coaches watching at Lax For the Cure than Mid Atlantic. Maybe it was because we played more high quality teams.

Top clubs had lots of coaches at presidents cup. Coach were top end D1 that had pretty much wrapped up their classes.
People don't forget that your High School coach is an important role as well. Seems not enough people think it's important to play well in HS. That CAN get you noticed. Plenty of top D1 coaches speak with High School Varsity coaches to get info on a player they have interest in. It also works the other way also. Your HS coach can and do make calls in girls behalf. THEY KNOW THE GIRLS WAY BETTER than their travel coach knows them. That's a plain and simple fact
It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.
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It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?
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It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?
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It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?

Wow,. I made one comment that you are trying very hard. I haven’t attacked anyone. Seems like you are the one attacking folks for posting their opinion.
Are you the BOTC bully that everyone is talking about?
Maybe a club/coach director or trainer that is trying to cash in on FOMO parents.
“Back off Warchild Seriously!!!”
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?

Wow,. I made one comment that you are trying very hard. I haven’t attacked anyone. Seems like you are the one attacking folks for posting their opinion.
Are you the BOTC bully that everyone is talking about?
Maybe a club/coach director or trainer that is trying to cash in on FOMO parents.
“Back off Warchild Seriously!!!”

I’m not the poster you’re replying to but one of the others who agreed this past 24 fall was important. You are the only one arguing and stating otherwise. Your dialect when writing is exactly the same each did you post using the terms FOMO parents and constantly suggesting anything that goes against your opinion must be a coach, director, or person running an event. It’s unfortunate that whatever your reasoning is you feel the need to give false information and make false claims when parents are replying their experiences. Seems that you are the individual who needs to take a step back my friend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?

Wow,. I made one comment that you are trying very hard. I haven’t attacked anyone. Seems like you are the one attacking folks for posting their opinion.
Are you the BOTC bully that everyone is talking about?
Maybe a club/coach director or trainer that is trying to cash in on FOMO parents.
“Back off Warchild Seriously!!!”

I’m not the poster you’re replying to but one of the others who agreed this past 24 fall was important. You are the only one arguing and stating otherwise. Your dialect when writing is exactly the same each did you post using the terms FOMO parents and constantly suggesting anything that goes against your opinion must be a coach, director, or person running an event. It’s unfortunate that whatever your reasoning is you feel the need to give false information and make false claims when parents are replying their experiences. Seems that you are the individual who needs to take a step back my friend

Lol you are a fool!
I have a feeling the person who is trying to say 2024s were not watched in the fall is either just trying to see if they can get people to respond and rile them up for fun or they were not on one of the more well known or more competitive teams in the bigger tournaments and may not have had coaches watching this fall. Either way… hopefully the people who come on here for real information can ignore the negativity and name calling and focus on the information they need! Thank you to the people who have been through the process and can give helpful information to first timers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a feeling the person who is trying to say 2024s were not watched in the fall is either just trying to see if they can get people to respond and rile them up for fun or they were not on one of the more well known or more competitive teams in the bigger tournaments and may not have had coaches watching this fall. Either way… hopefully the people who come on here for real information can ignore the negativity and name calling and focus on the information they need! Thank you to the people who have been through the process and can give helpful information to first timers.

People are expressing their opinion That’s what this site is. Sorry if it’s different than the agenda that you are pushing. You seem to be attempting to quiet or bully those that have a difference of opinion. You need to find a new hobby.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a feeling the person who is trying to say 2024s were not watched in the fall is either just trying to see if they can get people to respond and rile them up for fun or they were not on one of the more well known or more competitive teams in the bigger tournaments and may not have had coaches watching this fall. Either way… hopefully the people who come on here for real information can ignore the negativity and name calling and focus on the information they need! Thank you to the people who have been through the process and can give helpful information to first timers.

Many feel that the fall was overhyped. I agree with that and my kid doing all the camps ect. We are looking forward to the spring and summer.
Please, Let it go already
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?

Wow,. I made one comment that you are trying very hard. I haven’t attacked anyone. Seems like you are the one attacking folks for posting their opinion.
Are you the BOTC bully that everyone is talking about?
Maybe a club/coach director or trainer that is trying to cash in on FOMO parents.
“Back off Warchild Seriously!!!”

I’m not the poster you’re replying to but one of the others who agreed this past 24 fall was important. You are the only one arguing and stating otherwise. Your dialect when writing is exactly the same each did you post using the terms FOMO parents and constantly suggesting anything that goes against your opinion must be a coach, director, or person running an event. It’s unfortunate that whatever your reasoning is you feel the need to give false information and make false claims when parents are replying their experiences. Seems that you are the individual who needs to take a step back my friend

Lol you are a fool!

Brother you need to relax this is girls lacrosse and you seem to have a weird vendetta against this past fall
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a feeling the person who is trying to say 2024s were not watched in the fall is either just trying to see if they can get people to respond and rile them up for fun or they were not on one of the more well known or more competitive teams in the bigger tournaments and may not have had coaches watching this fall. Either way… hopefully the people who come on here for real information can ignore the negativity and name calling and focus on the information they need! Thank you to the people who have been through the process and can give helpful information to first timers.

They probably just didn’t have coaches there so don’t know any better
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.
Fall doesn’t matter too much. Even if you do great in some big fall tournaments, you have to follow that up with a big summer or you’ll be crossed off. Several top recruits from ‘23 didn’t play fall and did just fine
There seems to be one person spamming this thread with conspiracy theories about clubs directors coaches and directors of showcase constantly. It has to be the same dude doing it. While I wish I had the money a lot of these showcase owners have I never played and just watch my kid and want her to have the best opportunities. From speaking to a lot of other parents on in my town this fall was important. Our town team has kids from the top five clubs on the island and all five said the fall had a bunch of coaches and they expect the same for this summer and fall. I don’t have squat to gain by sharing my experience. I also don’t think posters are arguing that this summer or next fall aren’t important I think the argument is that starting fall 21’ was important for this class. Next fall will be even more important for most kids who aren’t the top recruits in the country: that’s the majority. If you can get into presidents cup rivalry mid atlantic primetime etc in the fall you’re set. Your club just needs to do right by your kids even if the better tournaments are more pricey.

Last comment is that the conspiracy theorist here needs to take a lap . I don’t know who hurt you to make you so mistrusting but most people don’t sit her all day refreshing the page to stir the pot. You also need to recognize that there are kids on here too. My sons friends have admitted to posting on this site. Just sit back relax and stop being so sensitive
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seems to be one person spamming this thread with conspiracy theories about clubs directors coaches and directors of showcase constantly. It has to be the same dude doing it. While I wish I had the money a lot of these showcase owners have I never played and just watch my kid and want her to have the best opportunities. From speaking to a lot of other parents on in my town this fall was important. Our town team has kids from the top five clubs on the island and all five said the fall had a bunch of coaches and they expect the same for this summer and fall. I don’t have squat to gain by sharing my experience. I also don’t think posters are arguing that this summer or next fall aren’t important I think the argument is that starting fall 21’ was important for this class. Next fall will be even more important for most kids who aren’t the top recruits in the country: that’s the majority. If you can get into presidents cup rivalry mid atlantic primetime etc in the fall you’re set. Your club just needs to do right by your kids even if the better tournaments are more pricey.

Last comment is that the conspiracy theorist here needs to take a lap . I don’t know who hurt you to make you so mistrusting but most people don’t sit her all day refreshing the page to stir the pot. You also need to recognize that there are kids on here too. My sons friends have admitted to posting on this site. Just sit back relax and stop being so sensitive

Fall ‘21 means absolutely nothing, unless summer’22 is a strong showing. Focus on what really matters, summer’22. Facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It truthfully seems like whoever is saying that this fall didn’t matter and even that summer may not is either a coach/director whose team doesn’t have a strong schedule OR a manipulative parent looking to give their kid a one up by making it seem like you didn’t have to do work for recruiting this fall.

You are trying waaaaaay too hard to prove that the fall meant something. Why is that?

I posted a single comment about fall on here so I know for a fact there is more than one individual giving the same opinion as mine about this past year. The original poster asked about next fall, and it turned into this past fall as an example of what tournaments were good ones. This page is about giving advice to help others is it not? I would assume that the multiple posters agreeing fall was important are doing so not to prove a point but to help other parents.

Is there a reason you want to attack anyone who says this year was important for 2024 recruiting?

Wow,. I made one comment that you are trying very hard. I haven’t attacked anyone. Seems like you are the one attacking folks for posting their opinion.
Are you the BOTC bully that everyone is talking about?
Maybe a club/coach director or trainer that is trying to cash in on FOMO parents.
“Back off Warchild Seriously!!!”

Love the Point Break reference and agree that somebody is pushing way too hard and needs to get a new hobby. Constantly on here policing what everyone is saying. Last time I checked it was still a free country.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

Amazing! It’s a learning experience for all of us. Every time I look recently so many girls getting a chance to get an education and engage in athletics.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fall doesn’t matter too much. Even if you do great in some big fall tournaments, you have to follow that up with a big summer or you’ll be crossed off. Several top recruits from ‘23 didn’t play fall and did just fine

Many kids play a fall/winter sport and those kids do fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

Wow January and February has been a very busy month for 2022 and 2023. We love the academic choices for lacrosse women. Still plenty more to come.

We think it’s important to play multiple sports and not put too much pressure on these young ladies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

Wow January and February has been a very busy month for 2022 and 2023. We love the academic choices for lacrosse women. Still plenty more to come.

We think it’s important to play multiple sports and not put too much pressure on these young ladies.

Perfectly stated. THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

Wow January and February has been a very busy month for 2022 and 2023. We love the academic choices for lacrosse women. Still plenty more to come.

We think it’s important to play multiple sports and not put too much pressure on these young ladies.

Perfectly stated. THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Having fun having a conversation with yourself ?

Please stop giving illegitimate advice that hurts others. My kids a 24 and had a good fall/winter and hopefully a good 2022 year as well. Both years matter for her and her teammates. If you disagree or want to preach otherwise you’re only hurting those who listen to you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

Amazing! It’s a learning experience for all of us. Every time I look recently so many girls getting a chance to get an education and engage in athletics.
We think it’s important to play multiple sports and not put too much pressure on these young ladies.[/quote]

Who are "we" and what is you point?
Just some thoughts on recruiting..

College coaches at most schools will take a player right up until the day classes begin... Obviously it has to be the right player.

The best players will be identified early and the majority of them will commit rather quickly to one of the top college programs. Once the top programs realize all of their highest ranked players are "off the board" they will reevaluate their list and move on and recruit other players.

If your daughter is not one of the let's say 50 - 100 players that pretty much every coach has Identified do not sweat it, there are many opportunities even at some of those well know programs.

If you daughter is not one of those blue chip players that will be receiving offers from schools like BC, UNC, Northwestern, Stanford, Duke, Princeton, Virginia, ND, USC etc... you will have to help her be proactive in trying to get coaches to take a close look at her. The studs stand out right away to the coaches, maybe it's because the player has a knack for scoring goals, maybe it's because she is an incredible athlete, maybe it's her hustle or her ability to play defense or whatever but the coaches spot the top prospect right away. After those top players there are literally hundreds of players trying to get coaches to take a close look at them. Help your daughter find a way to catch the attention of the coaches of the programs that she is interested in. Do not believe it if someone says "if you are good they will find you",
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.

If that vast majority of 23s are done YJ is having a really bad year. Less than half the A team is committed, and the club only has 21 total commits (22 class had 46). Don't know for sure but it seems possible that there are still a lot of 23 commits coming.
can someone explain the transfer portal / 5th year eligibility bc of covid ? is that affecting the 2023s? will it affect the 2024s? I think the NCAA really screwed up by offering an extra year of eligibility bc of covid...lots of high school players got screwed out of not only playing in high school but also the opportunity to play in college. frown
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.

If that vast majority of 23s are done YJ is having a really bad year. Less than half the A team is committed, and the club only has 21 total commits (22 class had 46). Don't know for sure but it seems possible that there are still a lot of 23 commits coming.


2023 D1’s are just about done. D2 & D3 hasn’t even started. By checking schools recruits I’d guess north of 75%. 2022 D1 ( was the op point ) I bet is 99.999% done. Heck 2023 D2/3 is say 90+% done.

Why YJ? Only them? Not one so I wouldn’t know but what happened?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.

If that vast majority of 23s are done YJ is having a really bad year. Less than half the A team is committed, and the club only has 21 total commits (22 class had 46). Don't know for sure but it seems possible that there are still a lot of 23 commits coming.


2023 D1’s are just about done. D2 & D3 hasn’t even started. By checking schools recruits I’d guess north of 75%. 2022 D1 ( was the op point ) I bet is 99.999% done. Heck 2023 D2/3 is say 90+% done.

Why YJ? Only them? Not one so I wouldn’t know but what happened?

I assume you mean 2022 D2/3 are 90% done?

Last time I checked, there were 115 D1, 106 D2, and 293 D3 lacrosse teams. Not completely current but probably in the ball park. So even if D1 is 75% done and D2/D3 are barely started, we are way less than half way through the 2023 recruiting timeline.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

This is awesome!
A multi sport athlete that also played varsity soccer. This should be applauded as it’s getting harder and harder to do with the current travel team environment.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

This is awesome!
A multi sport athlete that also played varsity soccer. This should be applauded as it’s getting harder and harder to do with the current travel team environment.

Walk on spots are always available.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.

If that vast majority of 23s are done YJ is having a really bad year. Less than half the A team is committed, and the club only has 21 total commits (22 class had 46). Don't know for sure but it seems possible that there are still a lot of 23 commits coming.


2023 D1’s are just about done. D2 & D3 hasn’t even started. By checking schools recruits I’d guess north of 75%. 2022 D1 ( was the op point ) I bet is 99.999% done. Heck 2023 D2/3 is say 90+% done.

Why YJ? Only them? Not one so I wouldn’t know but what happened?

I assume you mean 2022 D2/3 are 90% done?

Last time I checked, there were 115 D1, 106 D2, and 293 D3 lacrosse teams. Not completely current but probably in the ball park. So even if D1 is 75% done and D2/D3 are barely started, we are way less than half way through the 2023 recruiting timeline.

Unless D1 college teams are relying heavily on the transfer portal, I would say 75 percent finished is an inflated number. There are still many spots at some good academic and fairly competitive lax schools.
At this date in the middle of feb 2022, it seems that D1 still has many spots for 2023!
and according to OG poster D2/3 has barely started.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

This is awesome!
A multi sport athlete that also played varsity soccer. This should be applauded as it’s getting harder and harder to do with the current travel team environment.

Walk on spots are always available.
First of all NO they aren’t
Second don’t be a nasty hateful jealous donk.
Your negativity will only negatively impact your kids process
Everything is important, Fall Tournaments, Winter training, High School and Summer Club, Stop listening to other people. Your an adult and make your own decisions. You need to stop listening to the angry people and jealous parents. There are entirely to many people on this site that are way to involved in other clubs business and what other people are doing. Worry about your child and make smart decisions based on your Childs needs.
Over last few days 2023s have committed D1,
Michigan,
Ohio State,
Bryant
and FDU.
Additionally D1 over the last 10 days 2023s,
Bryant x2
Central Michigan x4
LIU
UNH
FDU x3
Stetson
Duquesne x2
Xavier
Eastern Michigan
Albany
Lafayette
Arizona St
Longwood
Merrimack
Redford
Lasalle
American x2
St Francis U
Monmouth U
Army
Furman
Wagner x2
Wofford
Plus many good D2 and 3 schools,
Messiah
St John Fisher
Mt Olive
Denison
Vassar
St Lawrence x2
Dickinson
Steven’s x3
Hobart and Smith
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

This is a great list of schools and the process for 2023s is moving much slower than many of us expected. I post this to help the 2024 parents. Great opportunity for our girls but be patient and don’t panic next fall and winter.
Very few will get an offer on sept 1. Most will play out over the course of their Junior maybe senior depending on what they are looking for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

This is awesome!
A multi sport athlete that also played varsity soccer. This should be applauded as it’s getting harder and harder to do with the current travel team environment.

Walk on spots are always available.

Such an ignorant post. Congratulation to the young women. Michigan is an incredible school with a lot to offer. Congratulations again, such an awesome opportunity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Over last few days 2023s have committed D1,
Michigan,
Ohio State,
Bryant
and FDU.
Additionally D1 over the last 10 days 2023s,
Bryant x2
Central Michigan x4
LIU
UNH
FDU x3
Stetson
Duquesne x2
Xavier
Eastern Michigan
Albany
Lafayette
Arizona St
Longwood
Merrimack
Redford
Lasalle
American x2
St Francis U
Monmouth U
Army
Furman
Wagner x2
Wofford
Plus many good D2 and 3 schools,
Messiah
St John Fisher
Mt Olive
Denison
Vassar
St Lawrence x2
Dickinson
Steven’s x3
Hobart and Smith
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

This is a great list of schools and the process for 2023s is moving much slower than many of us expected. I post this to help the 2024 parents. Great opportunity for our girls but be patient and don’t panic next fall and winter.
Very few will get an offer on sept 1. Most will play out over the course of their Junior maybe senior depending on what they are looking for.

Y’all weren’t kidding about colleges being really focused on 2023 recruiting right now.
A bunch More D1 commits on 2/14 for 2023 class,
Cal Berkeley, U Maryland BC, St Francis U, FDU
And D2/3 schools
Slippery Rock, Winthrop
We had heard from many that this is how it would be but didn’t know what to expect with a few conflicting things said on here. Patience is huge with so many choices and opportunity. It Makes me more calm with my 2024 and knowing that we have time and not to panic. It’s amazing to watch. So happy for these women.
Hi, I’ve been reading through the last few months posts. Can someone please give me an idea what ‘Best In Class’ is. Thank you
Parent of 2023 committed player here.
My 2 cents… at this time in the race, email often and many schools. Feedback my player got in September was that they liked the interest shown. And that in turn makes them interested. By mid august your coach will have heard from the top programs if they have interest. And on sept 1 you will hear from places you never even contacted. Email email email. Go to on campus prospect camps. And play hard at LFTC. Sidelines stacked. It’s early. And they will continue to follow her the rest of the summer
"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Over last few days 2023s have committed D1,
Michigan,
Ohio State,
Bryant
and FDU.
Additionally D1 over the last 10 days 2023s,
Bryant x2
Central Michigan x4
LIU
UNH
FDU x3
Stetson
Duquesne x2
Xavier
Eastern Michigan
Albany
Lafayette
Arizona St
Longwood
Merrimack
Redford
Lasalle
American x2
St Francis U
Monmouth U
Army
Furman
Wagner x2
Wofford
Plus many good D2 and 3 schools,
Messiah
St John Fisher
Mt Olive
Denison
Vassar
St Lawrence x2
Dickinson
Steven’s x3
Hobart and Smith
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

This is a great list of schools and the process for 2023s is moving much slower than many of us expected. I post this to help the 2024 parents. Great opportunity for our girls but be patient and don’t panic next fall and winter.
Very few will get an offer on sept 1. Most will play out over the course of their Junior maybe senior depending on what they are looking for.

Y’all weren’t kidding about colleges being really focused on 2023 recruiting right now.
A bunch More D1 commits on 2/14 for 2023 class,
Cal Berkeley, U Maryland BC, St Francis U, FDU
And D2/3 schools
Slippery Rock, Winthrop
We had heard from many that this is how it would be but didn’t know what to expect with a few conflicting things said on here. Patience is huge with so many choices and opportunity. It Makes me more calm with my 2024 and knowing that we have time and not to panic. It’s amazing to watch. So happy for these women.


This is such a transparent post. 23s will obviously be committing for the next few months and even some into their senior years for walk on spots or if players Decommitt. I think the only thing others were trying to say was that this year is extremely important. No posts say if you won’t get recruited unless this is your best year. Sophomore year is an important year for recruiting. Fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.

the boys side of the event is awesome. The girls attending are very very strong players who have made many of the other showcase teams like under Armour underclass, American select, etc. this makes me think it’ll be an event of substance.
22s will commit for walk on spots or if there is an opening (those spots are limited so don’t rely on that as a senior)

23s will commit throughout the year and summer. Their commitments are based off of the hard work they have done for years and because they have been watched for the past two years (Sophmore and Junior year) The work they put it last year is going to help them this year.

For 24s the work you put in this fall, winter, spring, and summer including tournaments, school season, work you did in the winter and more will directly impact how your fall looks. If you have grown a following of these coaches next fall will be way easier for you,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.

the boys side of the event is awesome. The girls attending are very very strong players who have made many of the other showcase teams like under Armour underclass, American select, etc. this makes me think it’ll be an event of substance.

This such a transparent post. Somebody is obviously invested and wants to promote themselves or club. Stay tuned for the rest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.

the boys side of the event is awesome. The girls attending are very very strong players who have made many of the other showcase teams like under Armour underclass, American select, etc. this makes me think it’ll be an event of substance.

This such a transparent post. Somebody is obviously invested and wants to promote themselves or club. Stay tuned for the rest.

Haha I saw the question asked and nobody responded.
So the person who asked the question is now responding and pushing their story. Having a conversation with yourself ,,, very impressive
Who is the best player in the class of 2024. The 2023 girl was anointed the top spot for years. I don't feel like 2024 we have a top player.
I listed the teams and/or "invitational" teams below that I have heard of without knowing much about. We don't need to know they are money grabs, save us the wasted posts, they all are and everything has a cost. I would love to get actual info about them, even if it's from organizers of the events, just shine some light about exposure or formats. Most are still convincing everyone it's worth the money without a history. I know there are camps and prospects days associated with colleges fighting for our dollars as well. I am only concerned how these effect the 2024 girls. Thank you in advance for those trying to help spread accurate information.

1. Under Armour - * Tryout dates on website * No secrets here, great event with a great history. Minimal tryout cost covers everything. Not really the best event for
2024's because the teams will mostly be full of committed 2023's.

2. American Select - * Tryout dates on website * Second year event that is approx. $800?? Should have the most talent and exposure for the 2024's this summer??

3. Juniors Open - * Invitation Only? * First year for girls, boys events get good talent. Website is vague, despite big hype. Social media releases names slowly.

4. Five star Elite - * Invitation Only? * First year for girls. Social media releases names slowly.

5. Best in Class - * Invitation Only? * First year for girls, boys events get good talent. Website is vague, despite big hype. Social media releases names slowly.
As far as the best player in the 2024 class, it may be a middy instead of attack like in the 2023 class. The out of the box girl could be the Dewlax(NJ) goalie that is amazing. I think she is as good if not better than the 2023 (CO) committ for UNC. I don't feel comfortable about naming her on a forum.
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"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.

the boys side of the event is awesome. The girls attending are very very strong players who have made many of the other showcase teams like under Armour underclass, American select, etc. this makes me think it’ll be an event of substance.

This such a transparent post. Somebody is obviously invested and wants to promote themselves or club. Stay tuned for the rest.

Haha I saw the question asked and nobody responded.
So the person who asked the question is now responding and pushing their story. Having a conversation with yourself ,,, very impressive

The theories by some of the 24 parents on here claiming everything that doesn’t fit their agenda is hocus pocus baffles me
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"Best In Class" is a showcase set up by Deemer Class. I believe this is the first year for the event. It may or may not turn out to be something of value--at this point it's TBD.

the boys side of the event is awesome. The girls attending are very very strong players who have made many of the other showcase teams like under Armour underclass, American select, etc. this makes me think it’ll be an event of substance.

This such a transparent post. Somebody is obviously invested and wants to promote themselves or club. Stay tuned for the rest.

Haha I saw the question asked and nobody responded.
So the person who asked the question is now responding and pushing their story. Having a conversation with yourself ,,, very impressive

The theories by some of the 24 parents on here claiming everything that doesn’t fit their agenda is hocus pocus baffles me

That will always be the case for some.

While there are players that have made UA, etc., I think we can all admit it currently skews heavily to the east coast. I've seen a few midwest players and one of them plays for Skywalkers. I really don't care, though, as I think this event is probably a little more fair to get into than say, UA150? Deemer is a great guy and I'm hopeful it goes well for the girls.

Worst case it could end up like AU, which a few of the girls I know that went said it wasn't worth it because it wasn't really heavily attended by coaches.
What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?
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As far as the best player in the 2024 class, it may be a middy instead of attack like in the 2023 class. The out of the box girl could be the Dewlax(NJ) goalie that is amazing. I think she is as good if not better than the 2023 (CO) committ for UNC. I don't feel comfortable about naming her on a forum.

Probably will not know who is considered top recruit or “best player” until after the Summer tournaments. I think there are many on the same level and we haven’t had a lot of chance watching them play very much due to Covid. Should be exciting to watch them this summer. 2024 class has so many great players! I agree, That goalie is awesome! As far as Attacks and Middies, there are many very good ones.
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?

Will any college coaches be on the sidelines at UA150? Anyone have girls who have been, and have experienced UA150? Invites are out today, Trying to decide if just another money grab! frown
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?


UA 150 is a great event with top level talent. Hard to get into and very selective.
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?


How was Ua chosen? Not a single player on our team made it.
So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?

Will any college coaches be on the sidelines at UA150? Anyone have girls who have been, and have experienced UA150? Invites are out today, Trying to decide if just another money grab! frown


that's what we're trying to figure out...if these events (UA, AS) are worth it or are we better off just going to college camps & clinics where our daughter is interested in going?
Get ready for the negative Ned on here saying that ua is a money grab, all politics, not worth it, etc and finding anyway to badmouth the event because their kid didn’t get in
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?

Will any college coaches be on the sidelines at UA150? Anyone have girls who have been, and have experienced UA150? Invites are out today, Trying to decide if just another money grab! frown

We went last year but we’re not selected this year. It was one of the best experiences our daughter has had. She’s pretty upset she didn’t get it this year but we are grateful she had the opportunity last year. The talent was on point. There were no players who didn’t belong there. Hoping she gets pulled off the waitlist and if not there is always next year!
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

detest to say it but it says a lot about the talent at some clubs. You’ll see half of YJ A and steps will probably make it while the lower tier clubs won’t even have a single kid make it. Evaluators know which clubs attract the stronger players but if a kid was very talented in a weaker club they’d still get picked
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

I think it’s a matter of who can get their club coaches to give them a good recommendation. I don’t think they are watching all those videos. Then, I think they try and spread it out with picks over all the clubs, and the country.
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?

Will any college coaches be on the sidelines at UA150? Anyone have girls who have been, and have experienced UA150? Invites are out today, Trying to decide if just another money grab! frown

We went last year but we’re not selected this year. It was one of the best experiences our daughter has had. She’s pretty upset she didn’t get it this year but we are grateful she had the opportunity last year. The talent was on point. There were no players who didn’t belong there. Hoping she gets pulled off the waitlist and if not there is always next year!

It's only a two year event - this year 2024s/2025s, next year 2025s/2026s
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

I think it’s a matter of who can get their club coaches to give them a good recommendation. I don’t think they are watching all those videos. Then, I think they try and spread it out with picks over all the clubs, and the country.

You get to see what your club coach writes when they send you the rec so you know if they wrote one for you
Seems like most of the usual names that we hear of from M&D, Skywalkers and Hero’s made the team. Lots of talent from the three teams but missed some from others. Remember who runs the event.
It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.
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Over last few days 2023s have committed D1,
Michigan,
Ohio State,
Bryant
and FDU.
Additionally D1 over the last 10 days 2023s,
Bryant x2
Central Michigan x4
LIU
UNH
FDU x3
Stetson
Duquesne x2
Xavier
Eastern Michigan
Albany
Lafayette
Arizona St
Longwood
Merrimack
Redford
Lasalle
American x2
St Francis U
Monmouth U
Army
Furman
Wagner x2
Wofford
Plus many good D2 and 3 schools,
Messiah
St John Fisher
Mt Olive
Denison
Vassar
St Lawrence x2
Dickinson
Steven’s x3
Hobart and Smith
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

This is a great list of schools and the process for 2023s is moving much slower than many of us expected. I post this to help the 2024 parents. Great opportunity for our girls but be patient and don’t panic next fall and winter.
Very few will get an offer on sept 1. Most will play out over the course of their Junior maybe senior depending on what they are looking for.

Y’all weren’t kidding about colleges being really focused on 2023 recruiting right now.
A bunch More D1 commits on 2/14 for 2023 class,
Cal Berkeley, U Maryland BC, St Francis U, FDU
And D2/3 schools
Slippery Rock, Winthrop
We had heard from many that this is how it would be but didn’t know what to expect with a few conflicting things said on here. Patience is huge with so many choices and opportunity. It Makes me more calm with my 2024 and knowing that we have time and not to panic. It’s amazing to watch. So happy for these women.

More D1 2023 commits yesterday,
University of Cincinnati
Longwood
Bryant
And a few competitive D2/3 with good academics
Kenyon
SUNY New Paltz
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

That's why I asked the question. Two kids apply from the same, lesser known, club. One sends video, and the other didn't. The one with no video just moved from the lesser known club to a well-known club and used the new club's name and recommendation.

No, neither is my kid. But that scenario is going to give us the information to spend the money and skip AS OR forego UA and go to American Select.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?

Will any college coaches be on the sidelines at UA150? Anyone have girls who have been, and have experienced UA150? Invites are out today, Trying to decide if just another money grab! frown


that's what we're trying to figure out...if these events (UA, AS) are worth it or are we better off just going to college camps & clinics where our daughter is interested in going?


Both, all. Final lap of near decade race. Don’t walk now. Be smart though by being honest at attainable programs. Best wishes to kids.
Where does it say you need a highlight video to apply to UA 150?
From Long Island so far I have seen. It doesn’t mean there aren’t others I missed this is just from what my daughter has said and what I’ve seen on under armors social media

Legacy: 2
YJ: 4
Jesters: 3
Top guns: 1
Liberty: 1
Elevate: have not seen any
91: have not seen any
Empire: have not seen any
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.
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Where does it say you need a highlight video to apply to UA 150?
It's optional
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Where does it say you need a highlight video to apply to UA 150?
It's optional

I think that's the point. Where is the legitimate assessment of skill when you just take the word of a club coach/director?
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.

Coaches who sent recommendations to players for any of their players who were applying clearly did not write anything negative so then how does the event differentiate between everyone having a good rec and who gets in?
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of

Resume? ..Not anymore. College coaches know the deal. Despite some of its shortcomings, maybe UA in years past ? But with the flood of new options and some questionable selections it’s not what it used to be.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.

Coaches who sent recommendations to players for any of their players who were applying clearly did not write anything negative so then how does the event differentiate between everyone having a good rec and who gets in?


So you're saying that a girl with a recommendation from Joe the college coach doesn't have an advantage over a girl with a recommendation from Joe the unknown club director? That's why video makes the difference.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.

It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.

Coaches who sent recommendations to players for any of their players who were applying clearly did not write anything negative so then how does the event differentiate between everyone having a good rec and who gets in?


So you're saying that a girl with a recommendation from Joe the college coach doesn't have an advantage over a girl with a recommendation from Joe the unknown club director? That's why video makes the difference.

That makes sense. I see your point that Having the film to back you up as a player if your coaches or club aren’t as well known can make a different.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.

It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.

From looking at social media of local clubs, not a single Long Island club has publicized their players making it. Only publicity is from players themselves and the UA website.

Even if they had why does that matter to you? I think it’s great that clubs use social media to give girls more publicity. What is the problem in that? Seeing UA repost clubs posts of kids such as renegades and tnlax is awesome. Clubs supporting their players is a thing to be happy about. In the world our children live in social media is so important to them and they feel so proud to see themselves posted. I’m all for it.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.

It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.

Every year top talent goes to these events. They don’t just go for the name of it they go to play great competition and learn and because they love playing. These events do attract top level players in each recruiting class and they go and enjoy the event and are proud. There is no reason to diminish that for them. The girls that got in should be proud and their clubs should be as well. If you didn’t get in that isn’t the greatest feeling but the positive is that there are a bunch of events like this that attract top talent. Instead of coming onto an anonymous forum and saying bad things about events players and clubs it is much easier to just focus on your own kids skills and recruiting rather than what others have.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.

It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.

From looking at social media of local clubs, not a single Long Island club has publicized their players making it. Only publicity is from players themselves and the UA website.

Even if they had why does that matter to you? I think it’s great that clubs use social media to give girls more publicity. What is the problem in that? Seeing UA repost clubs posts of kids such as renegades and tnlax is awesome. Clubs supporting their players is a thing to be happy about. In the world our children live in social media is so important to them and they feel so proud to see themselves posted. I’m all for it.

No one will ever have a problem when it’s about the girls.
Social media sites like Instagram and Facebook are great for clubs advertising or individual successes. Using this chat to undermine others and pushing their own profit$ while posing as somebody else is disgusting.
This chat is littered with it and you don’t have to go too far back.
Congrats to all on the selections.
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It's a great accomplishment to get the UA 150 invitation and great to play with other terrific players. The sidelines are far from lined with college coaches. IMHO it's more valuable to put on your list of accomplishments than expecting to "be seen" by coaches at the event. There is no standard recruiting plan for success, so any chance to be challenged is usually worth it. The problem of always trying to spend money right, it's best to have the girls understand how much thing cost for recruiting. It's a huge life lesson about finances that many have never considered.

This! It’s like a resume. You get into these events your name has more value to it, even if coaches aren’t there. It also gives you film against other strong players thst some teams may not normally see the level of competition of


No one questioned the validity of the event, just the "honesty" of the selection process.

It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.

From looking at social media of local clubs, not a single Long Island club has publicized their players making it. Only publicity is from players themselves and the UA website.

Even if they had why does that matter to you? I think it’s great that clubs use social media to give girls more publicity. What is the problem in that? Seeing UA repost clubs posts of kids such as renegades and tnlax is awesome. Clubs supporting their players is a thing to be happy about. In the world our children live in social media is so important to them and they feel so proud to see themselves posted. I’m all for it.

No one will ever have a problem when it’s about the girls.
Social media sites like Instagram and Facebook are great for clubs advertising or individual successes. Using this chat to undermine others and pushing their own profit$ while posing as somebody else is disgusting.
This chat is littered with it and you don’t have to go too far back.
Congrats to all on the selections.

I hear what you’re saying but I also think that there isn’t as much of that as you do. I think parents who are happy support their club public ally on here and that can look like clubs when it isn’t. Clubs also aren’t profiting off these events unless they run them.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.

UA150 skews heavily to club director recommendations. And by recommendations, I mean the UA150 director reaching out and asking for players submitted from each club to be ranked by the club director and provide a go/no go. In general, if you made it the previous year you should make it the following year. Your director can still do a nice write up, but then end your chances by saying "no" when he gets the call from UA150's director to stack rank.

I don't think video really matters here at all.
It’s not just this event regarding a problematic selection process. It’s turning into publicity for the clubs now. As we know that is not good. Despite many of the parents expressing that these are not good choices in a recruiting year, somebody is pushing one or more of these events hard.
My guess is that a lower level club has gotten a few of their girls in and wants everyone to know about it.
Congrats to all the girls but the aggressive push to publicize is over the top.[/quote]

From looking at social media of local clubs, not a single Long Island club has publicized their players making it. Only publicity is from players themselves and the UA website.

Even if they had why does that matter to you? I think it’s great that clubs use social media to give girls more publicity. What is the problem in that? Seeing UA repost clubs posts of kids such as renegades and tnlax is awesome. Clubs supporting their players is a thing to be happy about. In the world our children live in social media is so important to them and they feel so proud to see themselves posted. I’m all for it.[/quote]

No one will ever have a problem when it’s about the girls.
Social media sites like Instagram and Facebook are great for clubs advertising or individual successes. Using this chat to undermine others and pushing their own profit$ while posing as somebody else is disgusting.
This chat is littered with it and you don’t have to go too far back.
Congrats to all on the selections.[/quote]

I hear what you’re saying but I also think that there isn’t as much of that as you do. I think parents who are happy support their club public ally on here and that can look like clubs when it isn’t. Clubs also aren’t profiting off these events unless they run them.[/quote]

You don't think clubs profit off of having UA150 kids or AA's on their club teams? They most certainly do! More players tend to flow into those clubs as they see it as some sort of validation on how good the club is and how good they can be.

The sad truth is, the clubs don't make the players better--the players make themselves better. I see club hopping all the time and some of these players just never develop. It's usually because they aren't putting in the time to get better.
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So how much are UA150 selections skewed by club affiliation?

Girls getting invited based on applications that have only club coach recommendations and no highlight videos tells you everything you need to know about UA150.

I’ve looked at some of the profiles of girls selected and haven’t seen any who don’t have film. Have you seen kids without film who made it?

Yes, I do know of players selected who only submitted recommendations and no video.

UA150 skews heavily to club director recommendations. And by recommendations, I mean the UA150 director reaching out and asking for players submitted from each club to be ranked by the club director and provide a go/no go. In general, if you made it the previous year you should make it the following year. Your director can still do a nice write up, but then end your chances by saying "no" when he gets the call from UA150's director to stack rank.

I don't think video really matters here at all.

That's what I was thinking and why I had questions. Given the choice of playing in a "showcase" for a handful of connected clubs and playing in a tournament facing teams from other states, I think I'd rather her play in AS.
Aren’t the regional Directors for American Select, Juniors open, NYSLR, All American games , LILJ showcase select team all the same people ? CR, Glick and the Director’s from FLG ? It’s obvious these are not merit based but more club affiliated based. Right there you have the three club directors ( YJ, Legscy and FLG) picking their own players. Yes they sprinkle in a few players from other clubs but it’s mainly those three clubs representing. No doubt many of those girls are more than qualified but it’s clearly a conflict of interest. The UA 150 and Best in class might be more unbiased due to the large selection process and players from all over the country.
Does your club coach have to send them a recommendation? Or was it a recommendation in the resume/application ?
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Aren’t the regional Directors for American Select, Juniors open, NYSLR, All American games , LILJ showcase select team all the same people ? CR, Glick and the Director’s from FLG ? It’s obvious these are not merit based but more club affiliated based. Right there you have the three club directors ( YJ, Legscy and FLG) picking their own players. Yes they sprinkle in a few players from other clubs but it’s mainly those three clubs representing. No doubt many of those girls are more than qualified but it’s clearly a conflict of interest. The UA 150 and Best in class might be more unbiased due to the large selection process and players from all over the country.

This is all true but UA and Best in class have their own problems. Some of the selections are laughable and it’s obviously not on the level. It’s all expensive watered down BS..Better off staying away and using the money somewhere more productive.
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Aren’t the regional Directors for American Select, Juniors open, NYSLR, All American games , LILJ showcase select team all the same people ? CR, Glick and the Director’s from FLG ? It’s obvious these are not merit based but more club affiliated based. Right there you have the three club directors ( YJ, Legscy and FLG) picking their own players. Yes they sprinkle in a few players from other clubs but it’s mainly those three clubs representing. No doubt many of those girls are more than qualified but it’s clearly a conflict of interest. The UA 150 and Best in class might be more unbiased due to the large selection process and players from all over the country.


It would be the opposite. If UA150 is pretty much a showcase of those three clubs and their affiliates elsewhere (YJ South, YJ Mid Atlantic etc.) then the selection process limits other parts of the country. At least AS allows players from other regions to step up face to face. Yes, there are club affiliations there also, but you know where you stand and what the other players are capable of on the field.
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Does your club coach have to send them a recommendation? Or was it a recommendation in the resume/application ?

You ask your coach for a recxomendation they send it to you and you copy and paste it in so u see what they say.
Yes , same Directors for AS, NYRS, Juniors Open and so on, they don’t even try to hide the fact they are only selecting their own kids.
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I don't think video really matters here at all.

We put in an application to UA150 for my daughter ('25) last minute. We didn't have time to get the coach recommendation thus relying on the highlight video. According to YouTube view count no one even watched the video. So I guess you are right.
I definitely saw a few head scratchers for the UA 150, obviously if you get chosen it’s a great thing , helps with marketing for sure. Not sure if college coaches put much stock into these events. They know these events are manipulated and controlled by club coaches who pick their own kids, so obviously not a true All star/select team. Whether it’s a application or tryout , if it’s run by a club ( YJ) ( Legacy) they are picking their own kids. Everyone else just donated $$$$.
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I definitely saw a few head scratchers for the UA 150, obviously if you get chosen it’s a great thing , helps with marketing for sure. Not sure if college coaches put much stock into these events. They know these events are manipulated and controlled by club coaches who pick their own kids, so obviously not a true All star/select team. Whether it’s a application or tryout , if it’s run by a club ( YJ) ( Legacy) they are picking their own kids. Everyone else just donated $$$$.

We emailed the selection to these events out to college coaches and the ones allowed to reply (D3) responded with emails thst suggested they hold value in it but then again different divisions may not hold as much value
When will the NTDP try out schedules come out? Any idea would be really appreciated.
Nothing on the website as of yet , last years were in August and September and multiple regions throughout the country.
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When will the NTDP try out schedules come out? Any idea would be really appreciated.

What is NTDP?
Yes I have.....
[quote=Anonymous]Aren’t the regional Directors for American Select, Juniors open, NYSLR, All American games , LILJ showcase select team all the same people ? CR, Glick and the Director’s from FLG ? It’s obvious these are not merit based but more club affiliated based. Right there you have the three club directors ( YJ, Legscy and FLG) picking their own players. Yes they sprinkle in a few players from other clubs but it’s mainly those three clubs representing. No doubt many of those girls are more than qualified but it’s clearly a conflict of interest. The UA 150 and Best in class might be more unbiased due to the large selection process and players from all over the country.[/quote


You nailed it right on the head ...
Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

Absolutely true for girls outside the east coast.
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I definitely saw a few head scratchers for the UA 150, obviously if you get chosen it’s a great thing , helps with marketing for sure. Not sure if college coaches put much stock into these events. They know these events are manipulated and controlled by club coaches who pick their own kids, so obviously not a true All star/select team. Whether it’s a application or tryout , if it’s run by a club ( YJ) ( Legacy) they are picking their own kids. Everyone else just donated $$$$.

We emailed the selection to these events out to college coaches and the ones allowed to reply (D3) responded with emails thst suggested they hold value in it but then again different divisions may not hold as much value

Too funny but I gotta call BS!!!!
Nearly 300 D3 women’s lacrosse schools.
And they said collectively as a group that yes they hold value?!?
I doubt you emailed any or if you did that they would reply.
These schools are knee deep in recruiting 2022 and 2023 while prepping for games and coaching practices.
Hahaha nice try!
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Attending AS and was at UA last year. I think AS makes more sense since coaches recruit by graduation year. This year coaches needed to see the 2023's. How many 23's would be on the Highlight rosters. The same holds true for the 24’s next year. The decision to do AS was difficult because it was new. For our region, the top players came to the AS tryout and filled the roster so it made the decision easier. There are still many excellent players doing UA but seems 23 the rosters were more impressive for 23, 24, & 25 at AS. Went over to watch several 23 games in between my daughter's games and the competition and coach turnout was excellent. We did UA last year but it was regional and coaches could not be in attendance. I cannot speak on the UA tournament with all regions together to be fully honest. I’m sure the senior game will be fun to watch. We will come out for AS again next year for the reasons listed above. My only recommendation would be that next year they give the girls more swag. Girls get a lot of stuff at UA 150 for a similar cost. This was the first year for AS with many start-up costs, so hoping if my daughter makes it again, they get some good gear! A Nike Senior game would be cool as well, but that may be in the works as it makes sense.

Similar cost ? Underarmour is $145 for all. American Select is $150 for tryouts and $500 + more for the tourney. Plus beach hotels in Delaware. Uniforms were weak too. The 22 group was thin and i expect the 23 to pass up the $700 fee to play in a meaningless tourney. 24 will get good attendance. I do think best 25 will try UA and best 26 will do AS.
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.
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I definitely saw a few head scratchers for the UA 150, obviously if you get chosen it’s a great thing , helps with marketing for sure. Not sure if college coaches put much stock into these events. They know these events are manipulated and controlled by club coaches who pick their own kids, so obviously not a true All star/select team. Whether it’s a application or tryout , if it’s run by a club ( YJ) ( Legacy) they are picking their own kids. Everyone else just donated $$$$.

We emailed the selection to these events out to college coaches and the ones allowed to reply (D3) responded with emails thst suggested they hold value in it but then again different divisions may not hold as much value

Too funny but I gotta call BS!!!!
Nearly 300 D3 women’s lacrosse schools.
And they said collectively as a group that yes they hold value?!?
I doubt you emailed any or if you did that they would reply.
These schools are knee deep in recruiting 2022 and 2023 while prepping for games and coaching practices.
Hahaha nice try!

I didn’t say we emailed 300 schools…and yes they did reply… I’m not sure why you feel the need to demolish good things
Same salty club and or parent on here complaining about how directors use the girls who make it to make money on social media are the same people that would have plastered it all
Over their website and social media accounts if their kid had made it or kids from their club had made it.
Have you been checking out the 2023 Recruiting the last few days? Congratulations women on a job well done. Late February and D1 still filling out their rosters.

Cincinnati(D1)
Longwood(D1)
Niagara U(D1)
Manhattan(D1)
Niagra(D1)
Wingate(D2)
Rollins(D2)
Seton Hill(D2)
SUNY New Paltz(D3)
Kenyon College(D3)
I don’t think you should look at any of these events as nothing more than a fun weekend for your daughter. There will always be politics in who gets picked mixed in. Doesn’t mean your daughter doesn’t deserve to be at them. Enjoy it for what it is, a fun couple of days.
Aren’t all these college coaches in the start of their seasons ? I find hard to believe they first would entertain your email, secondly tell you these events hold any water at all. Clearly your trying to convince yourself these things matter.
I’m
Not sure what you’re talking about, nobody said anything about clubs or players and parents posting about their kid making a team. Most posters said congrats to the players who made it . The common discussion seems to be the bias attached to the Long Island events regarding the same Directors choosing their own players every time. I believe most posters felt UA and Best in class were the most unbiased to a degree, so congrats to all the girls who were selected regardless of the event.
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Not sure what you’re talking about, nobody said anything about clubs or players and parents posting about their kid making a team. Most posters said congrats to the players who made it . The common discussion seems to be the bias attached to the Long Island events regarding the same Directors choosing their own players every time. I believe most posters felt UA and Best in class were the most unbiased to a degree, so congrats to all the girls who were selected regardless of the event.

Most people felt like there was bias on all these events and especially UA and Best in Class. There are better places to spend your money during a recruiting year IMO.
This turns out to be a very expensive weekend. I feel bad for those that are afraid no or can’t say no because of the politics.
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Aren’t all these college coaches in the start of their seasons ? I find hard to believe they first would entertain your email, secondly tell you these events hold any water at all. Clearly your trying to convince yourself these things matter.

Is this in reference to club coach emailing the college coaches for advice on these pre-season all star showcases?
Had to be a joke? No way somebody did that or thought we would believe them.
AS has its own problems. Look at the Midwest teams last year. Almost all Team One, which is part of the same group that owns and runs AS, as well as Team One.

Some could say it’s in their best interest to pick almost all kids from Team One and not, say, Lakeshore or other top clubs in the Midwest.
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.

You’ve lost the plot. CSE is the Good Ol’ Boys club—it’s more about the relationships directors have with CSE, which allows them to get on the coaching staff to select players. There are always some poor politics and you can sneak one or two players into an event and get away with it.

What you cannot do is take your whole team then not take the various D1 commits, etc., which has happened in the past.

It isn’t about who’s paying more to CSE for the events, it’s how you’ve built the relationship with CSE which gets you on the coaching staff.

UA150 is all RS and again, it’s club connections and they rely on the coaches to be honest when providing the references—some club directors abuse this and put on bad picks because they want to scratch a back or help out the family that has a lot of money and is their big patron. If we had more scrupulous club directors this would be less of a problem.
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Aren’t all these college coaches in the start of their seasons ? I find hard to believe they first would entertain your email, secondly tell you these events hold any water at all. Clearly your trying to convince yourself these things matter.

Is this in reference to club coach emailing the college coaches for advice on these pre-season all star showcases?
Had to be a joke? No way somebody did that or thought we would believe them.

Seems like this is the same person that’s trying to separate UA and Best in Class from the others. You can probably figure out who would benefit from having us think kindly of those 2 over the others. Heavy sales pitch but not very convincing.
Ok I feel dense CSE , RS, TOTB, NGLL ?
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.

You’ve lost the plot. CSE is the Good Ol’ Boys club—it’s more about the relationships directors have with CSE, which allows them to get on the coaching staff to select players. There are always some poor politics and you can sneak one or two players into an event and get away with it.

What you cannot do is take your whole team then not take the various D1 commits, etc., which has happened in the past.

It isn’t about who’s paying more to CSE for the events, it’s how you’ve built the relationship with CSE which gets you on the coaching staff.

UA150 is all RS and again, it’s club connections and they rely on the coaches to be honest when providing the references—some club directors abuse this and put on bad picks because they want to scratch a back or help out the family that has a lot of money and is their big patron. If we had more scrupulous club directors this would be less of a problem.

American select had almost entire club teams last year.
UA 150 is lots of md girls. Jr open is lots of Long Island girls.
Best in class is yet to be determined.
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Aren’t all these college coaches in the start of their seasons ? I find hard to believe they first would entertain your email, secondly tell you these events hold any water at all. Clearly your trying to convince yourself these things matter.

Is this in reference to club coach emailing the college coaches for advice on these pre-season all star showcases?
Had to be a joke? No way somebody did that or thought we would believe them.

No our daughter emailed colleges about her acceptance to some of these events and D3 coaches did respond with congratulations and expressed that they were great events and opportunities. Without the ability to screenshot and send these replies there is no way for me to show you what was said. I’m not sure why you need to try and downplay success or tell us we are lying about our daughters interactions with coaches. I don’t know what my daughter did to deserve that other than make an event and send some emails
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Aren’t all these college coaches in the start of their seasons ? I find hard to believe they first would entertain your email, secondly tell you these events hold any water at all. Clearly your trying to convince yourself these things matter.

Is this in reference to club coach emailing the college coaches for advice on these pre-season all star showcases?
Had to be a joke? No way somebody did that or thought we would believe them.

No our daughter emailed colleges about her acceptance to some of these events and D3 coaches did respond with congratulations and expressed that they were great events and opportunities. Without the ability to screenshot and send these replies there is no way for me to show you what was said. I’m not sure why you need to try and downplay success or tell us we are lying about our daughters interactions with coaches. I don’t know what my daughter did to deserve that other than make an event and send some emails

What are you talking about? Very dramatic. Nice try again.
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.

You’ve lost the plot. CSE is the Good Ol’ Boys club—it’s more about the relationships directors have with CSE, which allows them to get on the coaching staff to select players. There are always some poor politics and you can sneak one or two players into an event and get away with it.

What you cannot do is take your whole team then not take the various D1 commits, etc., which has happened in the past.

It isn’t about who’s paying more to CSE for the events, it’s how you’ve built the relationship with CSE which gets you on the coaching staff.

UA150 is all RS and again, it’s club connections and they rely on the coaches to be honest when providing the references—some club directors abuse this and put on bad picks because they want to scratch a back or help out the family that has a lot of money and is their big patron. If we had more scrupulous club directors this would be less of a problem.

American select had almost entire club teams last year.
UA 150 is lots of md girls. Jr open is lots of Long Island girls.
Best in class is yet to be determined.

Best in Class us skewing heavy east coast clubs right now. If you play for an East Coast Club you’re more likely to get in, even if you’re from the Midwest and not as good, but you play for, say, LI Top Guns. Not taking shots at Top Gun but I’ve seen players that wouldn’t get a sniff of anything make a bunch of events from just this change alone.
The fact you keep replying is very telling !!
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.

You’ve lost the plot. CSE is the Good Ol’ Boys club—it’s more about the relationships directors have with CSE, which allows them to get on the coaching staff to select players. There are always some poor politics and you can sneak one or two players into an event and get away with it.

What you cannot do is take your whole team then not take the various D1 commits, etc., which has happened in the past.

It isn’t about who’s paying more to CSE for the events, it’s how you’ve built the relationship with CSE which gets you on the coaching staff.

UA150 is all RS and again, it’s club connections and they rely on the coaches to be honest when providing the references—some club directors abuse this and put on bad picks because they want to scratch a back or help out the family that has a lot of money and is their big patron. If we had more scrupulous club directors this would be less of a problem.

American select had almost entire club teams last year.
UA 150 is lots of md girls. Jr open is lots of Long Island girls.
Best in class is yet to be determined.

Best in Class us skewing heavy east coast clubs right now. If you play for an East Coast Club you’re more likely to get in, even if you’re from the Midwest and not as good, but you play for, say, LI Top Guns. Not taking shots at Top Gun but I’ve seen players that wouldn’t get a sniff of anything make a bunch of events from just this change alone.

The only one not “getting a sniff” is your daughter. Stop being so jealous and have your daughter hit the wall.
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The fact you keep replying is very telling !!

Trying hard to sell something(Best in and UA) and covering up identity. Smashing Top Guns is not right and is telling .
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Just curious if you ever consider that the girls apply for these teams and attend these events for reasons other than recruiting like maybe to just play against and with good competitors

No one is questioning the legitimacy of these events or why the girls want to play them (for now). It’s a big and exciting accomplishment to get invited and every player should be proud. What’s being questioned is the impartiality and fairness of the selection processes and explaining to our kids. By now it’s apparent that they are all biased. We can debate to what degree, but in the end it’s boiling down to affiliations with 3 main tournament runners: RS, CSE, and TOTB. In the case of UA150, clubs that direct more $ to RS via the NGLL, Mid Atlantic, etc. get more favorable player weighting and slots. For UAAA, it’s the clubs that direct more registrations to CSE’s National Cup events. For AS, it’s clubs that direct more registrations to TOTB events. Our girls’ hearts and our parent $ are caught in the middle of an increasingly dilutive marketshare battle. It especially stinks because the events are now deliberately scheduled to overlap and split the fields. Guess that’s just the dynamics of supply and demand.

You’ve lost the plot. CSE is the Good Ol’ Boys club—it’s more about the relationships directors have with CSE, which allows them to get on the coaching staff to select players. There are always some poor politics and you can sneak one or two players into an event and get away with it.

What you cannot do is take your whole team then not take the various D1 commits, etc., which has happened in the past.

It isn’t about who’s paying more to CSE for the events, it’s how you’ve built the relationship with CSE which gets you on the coaching staff.

UA150 is all RS and again, it’s club connections and they rely on the coaches to be honest when providing the references—some club directors abuse this and put on bad picks because they want to scratch a back or help out the family that has a lot of money and is their big patron. If we had more scrupulous club directors this would be less of a problem.

American select had almost entire club teams last year.
UA 150 is lots of md girls. Jr open is lots of Long Island girls.
Best in class is yet to be determined.

Best in Class us skewing heavy east coast clubs right now. If you play for an East Coast Club you’re more likely to get in, even if you’re from the Midwest and not as good, but you play for, say, LI Top Guns. Not taking shots at Top Gun but I’ve seen players that wouldn’t get a sniff of anything make a bunch of events from just this change alone.

Where are the best players ? East coast. Those west coast players don’t stand out against the east when they come for ua , as or any camps. I am sure a few from Colorado and California will be in for some of these. If your daughter didn’t get an invite it might be because she’s not at the top like you think she is.
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So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!
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So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!

I thought the AS was done very well. ALL the girls were excellent. I am not sure if offers stemmed from participation from AS or UA Most coaches had their eyes out on certain players well before these tournaments. Maybe just solidifying their choices.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!

I thought the AS was done very well. ALL the girls were excellent. I am not sure if offers stemmed from participation from AS or UA Most coaches had their eyes out on certain players well before these tournaments. Maybe just solidifying their choices.

ALL the girls were not excellent, and many are not committed because they turned the ball over and shot into the goalies stick every time they touched the ball.
American Select will have quantity and quality for the 2024's this year. The tryouts are before Under Armour for most all regions if you look at the websites. Assume American Select invites will accept their spots at a very high %. Then Under Armour should still get good players from 2024, just not many spots available per team. The next year is when parents need to be honest with themselves about their daughters talent level and make the clubs earn their money to help find a good fit athletically and academically.
What is Juniors Open now??
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What is Juniors Open now??

It’s another event similar to others I think run by CR and LILJ. Another event invite only - some applied some were just selected
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!

I thought the AS was done very well. ALL the girls were excellent. I am not sure if offers stemmed from participation from AS or UA Most coaches had their eyes out on certain players well before these tournaments. Maybe just solidifying their choices.

ALL the girls were not excellent, and many are not committed because they turned the ball over and shot into the goalies stick every time they touched the ball.


I definitely did not see that..It was good lacrosse some had better showings than others but all the girls were pretty solid. Maybe you were looking way to into it
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!

I thought the AS was done very well. ALL the girls were excellent. I am not sure if offers stemmed from participation from AS or UA Most coaches had their eyes out on certain players well before these tournaments. Maybe just solidifying their choices.

ALL the girls were not excellent, and many are not committed because they turned the ball over and shot into the goalies stick every time they touched the ball.


I definitely did not see that..It was good lacrosse some had better showings than others but all the girls were pretty solid. Maybe you were looking way to into it

Definitely not. Probably the reason some aren’t committed/ or committed to low level programs. Not looking way into it. Several were a liability on the field and the coaches definitely noticed!
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American Select will have quantity and quality for the 2024's this year. The tryouts are before Under Armour for most all regions if you look at the websites. Assume American Select invites will accept their spots at a very high %. Then Under Armour should still get good players from 2024, just not many spots available per team. The next year is when parents need to be honest with themselves about their daughters talent level and make the clubs earn their money to help find a good fit athletically and academically.

Under Armour already selected and they have to answer by today or tomorrow to accept....American Select tryouts isnt for another two weeks......
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Juniors Open now??

It’s another event similar to others I think run by CR and LILJ. Another event invite only - some applied some were just selected



AS , Juniors Open , NYSR are all CR and her close confidants....very hard to make any of them without having your club team represented on the commitment committee
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what is better UA or American Select?. It seems that UA had some trouble a few years back with politics , parent coaches..etc are the same people involved.?
will there will continue to be favoritism to their own clubs....?

It all depends on which one your daughter applies to and gets into. Each side will tell you the one their kid got into is the better one. UA is the old dinosaur and AS is the new upstart if you'd rather frame it that way (Blackberry vs iPhone). Not the best analogy but it's one way to look at it. It's the way some of the people in the club scene are framing it.

Personally? I'd take a look at the coaches covering the events and use that as part of the decision making progress. If there's a coach you don't like coaching one or the other event, take your pick. We did UA last year and it was good. Some teams were certainly a little down from previous years, but the Spallinas were in the UA events, I don't know that they did AS. I wouldn't be opposed to trying AS, but it does cost more and their uniforms stunk.

Flip a coin I guess.

Either one is fine as long as your daughter gets meaningful playing time and does well when she is out on the field. ALL the top coaches attended BOTH last year. They spent a day at each. What I do see was some girls who were not that good being selected and when they were on the field they showed that. Explains why they weren’t recruited by top programs. The girls from both events that stood out got plenty of offers. Bottom line is choose the event you prefer and do something on the field!

I thought the AS was done very well. ALL the girls were excellent. I am not sure if offers stemmed from participation from AS or UA Most coaches had their eyes out on certain players well before these tournaments. Maybe just solidifying their choices.

ALL the girls were not excellent, and many are not committed because they turned the ball over and shot into the goalies stick every time they touched the ball.


I definitely did not see that..It was good lacrosse some had better showings than others but all the girls were pretty solid. Maybe you were looking way to into it

You really spend this much time analyzing other kids
These are some of the event operators

Totb...Top of the bay
Rs....robinson sports
Cse...corrigan sports
Ngll...national girls lacrosse league
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What is Juniors Open now??

It’s another event similar to others I think run by CR and LILJ. Another event invite only - some applied some were just selected



AS , Juniors Open , NYSR are all CR and her close confidants....very hard to make any of them without having your club team represented on the commitment committee

This is like beating a dead horse. We have discussed this over and over. This is all a gigantic ‘money grab’. If you have money to burn then go ahead but there are better places to spend your money than any of these events.
Busy weekend for recruiting for 2023..
Plenty of D1 recruiting in late February…
Presbyterian
Campbelll
Brown u
VCU
Old Dominion
George Washington U
Woffford
And plenty of good D2/3 schools..
Seton Hill
USMMA
Messiah
Lemoyne
Mount Olive
Franklin and Marshall
East Strousburg U
Great to see info put up by SAT1234, agree or disagree with it.

There is so much complaining about "selected" team only having girls from certain clubs. Is there some truth to it, of course there is. Youth sports is a crazy world, but us as parents only need to do what is best for our kids. Clubs know this and use it to their advantage. The grass is always greener on the other side.

If your kid is the top 1 or 2 players on her team, then you should be looking for a better team. It's how youth sports works today. If your daughter is a 2024, too late. If you don't live in an area with several club lacrosse clubs, not an option. ** The top talent finds its way to the top clubs, it's more true today than in years past. ** Just being on the top YJ, M&D, Skywalker, etc team doesn't automatically make you a top 100 player, but you are a darn good player! It's not rigged when the "selected" teams have mostly girls from the established clubs. It's not a conspiracy that most of the top college programs are made up of girls from established clubs. There are exceptions to every rule, but I am speaking for the majority of girls. If you live in a Mid-Atlantic state or the east coast and complain about rigged teams, the problem is with you. Not playing high level college lacrosse is not the end of the world, let your girl go where she wants, enjoy the ride and be happy that you get to spend the time with you terrific young lady! It goes by too fast!

Recruiting is a bumpy ride for everyone, even the top players.
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American Select will have quantity and quality for the 2024's this year. The tryouts are before Under Armour for most all regions if you look at the websites. Assume American Select invites will accept their spots at a very high %. Then Under Armour should still get good players from 2024, just not many spots available per team. The next year is when parents need to be honest with themselves about their daughters talent level and make the clubs earn their money to help find a good fit athletically and academically.

Under Armour already selected and they have to answer by today or tomorrow to accept....American Select tryouts isnt for another two weeks......

UA150 already selected, which isn't in competition with American Select. It's Under Armour All America Games that is in competition with AS. These are completely different events and you can bet the players that made or think AS is superior will put in the efforts to apply & make UA150.

However, it's not the end of the world if you kid didn't make one or all of these teams, so for those reading don't stress too much over it. Only an extremely small portion of players will play at the top 10 teams and most of the kids aren't top 10. It's not the end of the world if your kid ends up at Denver instead of UNC or Maryland.
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American Select will have quantity and quality for the 2024's this year. The tryouts are before Under Armour for most all regions if you look at the websites. Assume American Select invites will accept their spots at a very high %. Then Under Armour should still get good players from 2024, just not many spots available per team. The next year is when parents need to be honest with themselves about their daughters talent level and make the clubs earn their money to help find a good fit athletically and academically.

Under Armour already selected and they have to answer by today or tomorrow to accept....American Select tryouts isnt for another two weeks......

UA150 already selected, which isn't in competition with American Select. It's Under Armour All America Games that is in competition with AS. These are completely different events and you can bet the players that made or think AS is superior will put in the efforts to apply & make UA150.

However, it's not the end of the world if you kid didn't make one or all of these teams, so for those reading don't stress too much over it. Only an extremely small portion of players will play at the top 10 teams and most of the kids aren't top 10. It's not the end of the world if your kid ends up at Denver instead of UNC or Maryland.

If your club isn’t on the Comitee and you were selected to any you should be very proud. If you don’t make any not the end of the world. It’s awesome for those who did but if you didn’t you’ll find other opportunities.

UA 150 and AS will have similar players at the event since they don’t conflict. Some kids don’t tryout for AS at all knowing it’s heavily skewed to YJ
UA 150 definitely had top 24's last year and was a great event, hot weather aside. Question is how many of those 24's will be back this year with Best in Class. A lot of top girls listed for BIC and can't imagine they will do both being a week apart with Lax for the Cure in between. Big summer for these girls and bodies gotta rest. I'm sure it will still be very competitive, but missing some big players which opens up opportunities for others.
As far as UA 150 goes with YJ, the top kids on the top teams always went to the underclass games and none went to 150. The 150 invites were sent to the top kids as well as the lower half of top team and second team, and that was where the main attendance came from. There was always a very heavy favoritism for YJ players for the UA tryouts and select invite events in the past, but CR may have given that political edge up, as she is now in direct competition with CSE with her own events as she is trying to grab that money for herself. She has had a few failed attempts at these Allstar events in the past, never even coming close to the CSE events, but eventually one of them may stick? Way too many events trying to scare the recruits in full FOMO fashion right now. Hopefully they all fail and become irrelevant and the politics fade and the recruiting playing field levels.
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UA 150 definitely had top 24's last year and was a great event, hot weather aside. Question is how many of those 24's will be back this year with Best in Class. A lot of top girls listed for BIC and can't imagine they will do both being a week apart with Lax for the Cure in between. Big summer for these girls and bodies gotta rest. I'm sure it will still be very competitive, but missing some big players which opens up opportunities for others.

A few girls we know are doing both and lax for the cure.
It can be difficult to navigate all the LAX "extra curriculars" like showcases & select team region events. IMHO and generally speaking, some folks get a little too worked up about the significance of the events. None of them are be all, end all, must attend events and you will break the bank trying to attend all of them. All of the events depending on an individuals perception could be called "money grabs" so for the purposes of the post, I am assuming cost is no object.

Most of the select national events with a tryout or a vetting process are flawed and will continue to be until these events hire unbiased evaluators with very few contacts in the pay to play LAX orbit. You only needs to look at the coaches and or reps in a given region to understand who will likely have a leg up on being selected to a team. The majority of these coaches and regional reps operate and coach for clubs that offer fee based lacrosse programming. Obviously they will try to get some of their customers on the teams, its good for business. I think most people realize this and understand that some politics are going to be baked into the cake. The bigger issue is when this privilege is abused by the evaluator. Based on many posts on BOTC and "word on the street" claims this is commonplace for some events. While that may or may not be true depending on your perspective. The truth is that inevitably some kids that want to attend or "should have been selected" do no not end up getting selected. It is not always due to political reasons, some kids do get missed or fail to pop at the tryout. There is also a percentage of kids that are sub par talent wise that end up getting selected for the events. Its like going to a singles club, there will be very few 10's a few more 9's, some 8's and a bunch of 5-7s and of course some 1-3s. Occasionally a 3 gets mistaken for an 8 and vice versa. It is extremely difficult for a few evaluators to dial in the top 20 kids at a 1 day try out. Arguing about which kids are going to be at each event and which event is going to be better is pretty short sighted and singling out teenagers on this forum like some have done is childish. I strongly believe that all the operators of the events have the best intentions and integrity. It is unfortunate however that some fail to realize and correct some of the flaws in their selection processes. Some of the flaws are so glaring and obvious that it is no wonder the events get a bad reputation for being "polittical" or "money grabs" when really its their regional reps, coaches, and evaluators that are abusing or not taking the the process more seriously. It is a catch 22 for the operator if they continue to use this model. The people who want to coach, rep, & evaluate have different goals and motives than the operator.

The coaches 100% understand the process flaws for these events and weigh participation accordingly. Conversely, they do not view kids that don't participate or make these teams as a negative. If you think about it, there are way more reasons why a kid did not participate than reasons why they did. Additionally, it is a subset of the player pool that even tries out for these events. There are many good players that can't afford or don't even want to play in the events. The coaches definitely understand this as well. IMHO nothing beats going to the camps at the schools your player is really interested in. The camps are a fraction of the price and it is the only way to ensure your player gets an honest look from a particular school they are interested in.

I will breakdown my own opinions and observations below. Please don't come back at me with insults and attacks if I missed this event or I am wrong about this or that event. Feel free to pen your own review(s) for people to read. I don't claim to be an expert. I will repeat, these are my own observations and my own opinions. My girls have made and not made the cut on all the regional events the last few years. I have done rudimentary research and have discussed most of the other showcase events I will list with people who have attended so some of my opinions are based on some second hand info as well as my own. The second hand information is from current & former club and school coaches, parents, club directors and players. Some with whom I know well and some from people I met at these and other events with whom I struck up conversations with. I am sharing for anyone new to this or does not already have a foundational understanding of these events. I have absolutely no affiliation with any of these events. I am just like most guys who find their way to this board, an over invested, over opinionated lax dad. Hopefully everyone will do their own due diligence and find the right event(s) for their player.

Regional Team Events
US Lacrosse - USA Lacrosse High School girls tournament - AKA "School Girls" - Most regions coached by HS coaches which leads to what I would consider relatively low political impact. The HS coaches usually only have a few legitimate mouths to feed. Their employment/business is typically not dependent on a pay to play Lax club. The event is fairly well run and takes place the same weekend and in near proximity as the NCAA women's D1 final 4 weekend. The teams are made up of HS girls that are not year specific (HS Open) and I am pretty sure there are some NCAA rules associated with coaches evaluating and attending the event because of the NCAA final 4. It may actually be a dead period and used to help fill stadium seats at the final 4 and championship games.

Corrigan Sports - Under Armour All American - No need to write up, I assume most in this forum are familiar with the event. Unfortunately it seems politics has completely over run this event and has opened the door and inspired the next two regional events on this list. It is sad that this once esteemed event now carries a bit of political baggage with it. Probably more than what is warranted but as they say ...it is what it is. The political knock on this event has been around for at least the 5 or 6 years that I am aware of and probably longer. The tournament operator had many years to correct the problem and failed to do so. They continued to let their coaches abuse their privileges.

American Select Lacrosse - American Select - Under Armour 2.0 The inaugural event did indeed have some teams that were pretty much complete club teams in attendance. The event appears at 1st glance to be on a similar track "politically" as UA All American based on how the region reps. The event is actually being held the same dates this year which will require kids who wanted to play in both events to choose. If the event operators were smart they would ensure legitimate tryouts to separate themselves from the now tarnished UAAA. They should take the lead of the AU event below a step further and pay some unbiased local college lax girls with no club or HS affiliation to evaluate and pick the teams and then hand them to the regional reps and coaches. The evaluators should conference for 1/2 hour after the tryout and announce the team and alternates on the spot so everyone in attendance can see who made the team. It will be interesting to see what this event looks like in a few years after a year or a few years going head to head with UAAA.

Athletes Unlimited - Athletes Unlimited Futures is the most unique event and IMO offers a great experience and fantastic messaging for young women. The tryout we attended was conducted by local lax girls that did not as far as I know have a club affiliation. I don't know if this was true at other regions or not. The emphasis of the event was to promote and I assume pay for the inaugural AU women's
professional league. The futures event was fun and relatively stress free for the players. They were able to meet other girls, play lacrosse and learn from multiple current professional women's lacrosse players. The event in my opinion was spot on and frankly the only extra curricular event my player said she must attend this summer!

National Lacrosse Classic - I do not believe this event is still in operation. It used to be sponsored in different years by Adidias, Brine & Maverik.

Select Showcase(s)
Robinson Sports - Under Armour 150 - appears to still be "The Event" the others are trying to re-invent with the most legit centralized selection process that includes video evaluation & club/coach recommendation or affirmation. Their vetting process would require someone to flat out lie about a player which is a bit different than overstating or understating a player skill level at a brief tryout. Website lists college coaches that attended the year before and its worth noting the selection process seems the most legit.

Regular Showcases
There is no shortage and probably a couple dozen summer showcase events. Some of these come and go every couple years. Some even get cancelled last minute
because they do not get enough kids. The ones I have heard good things about that I know are still in operation are listed below. I would suggest
you vet any event you are considering by sending an email to the operator requesting the schedule of events, college coaches attending, the coaches who will be running the
drills and coaching showcase teams as well as number of kids attending so far. If they can't provide all 3 in a timely fashion, I would be suspect.

NXT Summer Showcase -
Apex Showcases -
Maryland Showcase -
D3 Summer Showcase
Elite 180 Lacrosse (NESCAC Schools)
3D Lacrosse Rising Girls
Recruiting Rush (AKA Finishline)


Not sure exactly what these two events are classified as. There seems to be some confusion on the operators of these 2 events and I would not consider either of them "showcases" until they publish an event schedule as well as some sort of list of women's college coaches that will be instructing, coaching teams, and most importantly evaluating players.

Best In Class - 1st year girls event - The company's (FCL) core business seems to have a niche offering with virtual training & recruiting services for boys. They have an impressive list of men's coaches for their "event" but it does appear to be a secondary revenue stream and not part of the company's core offerings. The website only has a small link at the bottom of page that says "recruiting showcases". Upon further reading, this sounds more like instructional training that they are inviting college coaches to attend. No list of girls colleges coaches attending, no schedule and no list of female coaches actually coaching is a big red flag, I have to assume it is the same staff as the boys side which may or may not be fine depending your personal preference. As a side note, the companies core training & recruiting services look fresh and new. The operator's core staff looks accreddied and professional. I don't know any of them but I have seen positive endorsements for most of them on BOTC and other websites. I would strongly consider giving this outfit a try if I had a boy looking for the services they offer. I am not even sure the girls event would be considered a "showcase" as history would define it at this point. I would be inclined to let the girls side of this operation percolate for a year or two and see if it still has legs in a couple years. Maybe they will add female coaches. I like where it appears the company is headed but I have been in business myself long enough to realize that a company can't be everything to everyone. These guys should concentrate and grow their core boys business and then try to expand. I feel like they are trying to run before walking here by adding a girls event to their product mix..

[ChillLaxin] out of it. These donkey can't get enough pay to play LAX and will eat it up. The site has links to "be evaluated" and claims to vet and only take top players. I am not sure if that is true or not. Most folks I have discussed this with on and off the island claim that this is info is at best debatable and at worst not really accurate at all. I do not believe it even matters. This event is off the range, its just another showcase packaged and hyped up as something new. Maybe a few NY/NJ/PA folks with ties to the operator and nothing to do over the 4th of July will bite and justify this event. It is pitched as "the only showcase 2.0 in the country" to try differentiate themselves. I guess some aggressive marketing and a couple social media posts make it the only showcase 2.0 event in the country. It appears they send out a social media post after a player is signed up and paid I assume. I know I said I would not mention cost, but could not help noticing the premium price tag for this event. I can't help but wonder if the operator may possibly be paying commissions to the club coaches, partner websites or anyone else promoting the event that gets people to pay. After diving down this rabbit hole, it looks pretty much like a few HS & Club coached pick up games after the holiday. I mean come on man! July 5th? Huh. How many players & college coaches are going to travel on the 4th or early on the 5th of July to get to get to this event. No list of college coaches attending and no schedule of the event is a definite big red flag. This event looks like complete smoke and mirrors and relies on sensationalized bullet points on their web page. Using what must be boys testimonials from previous years on the girls page for a 1st year event is misleading. Multiple partnerships/sponsors should make it cheaper than other events especially given the events illogical dates. The website's first bullet point is "Uber Competitive Format led by the best HS & club coaches on the planet" (ROFL). Where does one find the list of best club and HS coaches on the planet? IMHO, you need to run, not walk away from anyone pushing this event to you. Sorry to be so harsh, I'm sure the folks (I have no idea who they are, their companies are listed) behind this are nice enough folks and might have good intentions but they too should stick to their core businesses because this one doesn't past the smell test.


All that being said, if you are a player that plays in a rec league, or does not play any east coast summer events with your club or would otherwise not get an opportunity to play against top level competition the select events would probably suit you well. If yo play for a club that regularly see's top 50 teams in summer play, you can probably find a better bang for your buck going to a regular showcase and some school camps.
SAT dude I get you’re trying to help people out but it was too long and just more opinions like you stated. There is no right answer here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Busy weekend for recruiting for 2023..
Plenty of D1 recruiting in late February…
Presbyterian
Campbelll
Brown u
VCU
Old Dominion
George Washington U
Woffford
And plenty of good D2/3 schools..
Seton Hill
USMMA
Messiah
Lemoyne
Mount Olive
Franklin and Marshall
East Strousburg U

More commitments in the last 2 days for class of 2023,,,
Central Michigan D1
Youngstown State D1
FDU D1
Central Michigan D1
Winthrop
Gettysburg
Denison
Denison
Denison
thats a fair assessment and i agree that there in no right answer - I did read someone one mentioned FOMO in regards to the JO & BIC - I think that was well stated and I disagree that my write up on these two was all opinion. I learned quit a bit actually and honestly feel like I cleared the air a little on these 2 new flavors of the month that it seems some on this board seem obsessed with. It just dawned on me that maybe its just the operators trying to push these events on this board, at this point I guess anything is possible given that 95% of the folks on here post anonymously so you can't even tell who is typing.
Yep, all run by CR and FLG who run LILJ, no point in trying any of these events unless you are a YJ player, legacy and FLG also get spots. A few friends of the Directors might grab a spot but the usual clubs get all the spots. I don’t think anyone actually even evaluates anyone not wearing a YJ jersey at these events.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Busy weekend for recruiting for 2023..
Plenty of D1 recruiting in late February…
Presbyterian
Campbelll
Brown u
VCU
Old Dominion
George Washington U
Woffford
And plenty of good D2/3 schools..
Seton Hill
USMMA
Messiah
Lemoyne
Mount Olive
Franklin and Marshall
East Strousburg U

More commitments in the last 2 days for class of 2023,,,
Central Michigan D1
Youngstown State D1
FDU D1
Central Michigan D1
Winthrop
Gettysburg
Denison
Denison
Denison


Post on the 23 thread we don’t care
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, all run by CR and FLG who run LILJ, no point in trying any of these events unless you are a YJ player, legacy and FLG also get spots. A few friends of the Directors might grab a spot but the usual clubs get all the spots. I don’t think anyone actually even evaluates anyone not wearing a YJ jersey at these events.


You are spot on with this one....no YJ on the chest means no lookie lookie
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all of you feaking out about recruiting...... a 2022 commmitted to Michigan yesterday.

I wouldn’t let that guide you. I’d bet maybe 5-10 2022’s 1st time committed D1 this fall / winter. I’d bet 95% of the 2022 commits were done by June of 2021. Vast majority of 2023’s are done.

If that vast majority of 23s are done YJ is having a really bad year. Less than half the A team is committed, and the club only has 21 total commits (22 class had 46). Don't know for sure but it seems possible that there are still a lot of 23 commits coming.


2023 D1’s are just about done. D2 & D3 hasn’t even started. By checking schools recruits I’d guess north of 75%. 2022 D1 ( was the op point ) I bet is 99.999% done. Heck 2023 D2/3 is say 90+% done.

Why YJ? Only them? Not one so I wouldn’t know but what happened?

I assume you mean 2022 D2/3 are 90% done?

Last time I checked, there were 115 D1, 106 D2, and 293 D3 lacrosse teams. Not completely current but probably in the ball park. So even if D1 is 75% done and D2/D3 are barely started, we are way less than half way through the 2023 recruiting timeline.

Unless D1 college teams are relying heavily on the transfer portal, I would say 75 percent finished is an inflated number. There are still many spots at some good academic and fairly competitive lax schools.
At this date in the middle of feb 2022, it seems that D1 still has many spots for 2023!
and according to OG poster D2/3 has barely started.

Based on the massive amount of signings in the last 2 weeks, I would say this estimation was accurate. Amazing how many D1 schools are still signing players. This week alone probably saw at least a dozen. And several more today.
UMichigan last week, Ohio State and Brown the other day, UC Davis, UMass Lowell and Sacred Heart today.
There will be at least 126 D1 colleges offering wlacrosse entering the 2025 season. Last years D2 national champ just moved up to D1.
Approximately 107 D2 and just shy of 300 D3 schools and the numbers keep growing.
This info is important for 2024 class because you can see how this drags on. Be patient and enjoy the ride. The experience is different for everyone. Maybe the very top girls will get a call the first few week of September but others may land in their spot much later. D2 and 3 are just now starting to sign girls. So many great landing spots. 2024 take note.
Good post, keeps these crazy parents in check who think their kid is getting recruited this weekend . Appreciate the update
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep, all run by CR and FLG who run LILJ, no point in trying any of these events unless you are a YJ player, legacy and FLG also get spots. A few friends of the Directors might grab a spot but the usual clubs get all the spots. I don’t think anyone actually even evaluates anyone not wearing a YJ jersey at these events.

Girls from other clubs are getting in though. Not many, but some.
Is everyone having trouble finding lax cleats? Seems like there is a shortage on the web. Looking for a M5.5/ Women’s 6.5. Favorite local shops on LI? Cleats at Lax unlimited seems to be limited
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is everyone having trouble finding lax cleats? Seems like there is a shortage on the web. Looking for a M5.5/ Women’s 6.5. Favorite local shops on LI? Cleats at Lax unlimited seems to be limited

Dicks has none. They don’t know when they will get them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good post, keeps these crazy parents in check who think their kid is getting recruited this weekend . Appreciate the update

Do parents think their kids are getting their NLI tomorrow? I think parents and kids who have had colleges express interest are probably among the top recruits.
You can try Eastbay , pretty large selection and quick shipping. Dicks and Lacrosse unlimited seem to be out of stock
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is everyone having trouble finding lax cleats? Seems like there is a shortage on the web. Looking for a M5.5/ Women’s 6.5. Favorite local shops on LI? Cleats at Lax unlimited seems to be limited

Somebody did something voting on the supply chain. I’d bet they on a ship in a harbor.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is everyone having trouble finding lax cleats? Seems like there is a shortage on the web. Looking for a M5.5/ Women’s 6.5. Favorite local shops on LI? Cleats at Lax unlimited seems to be limited

If you all like the new Nike lax cleat, keep checking their site daily. Seem to restock every few days, but they are going quick when they are in stock.
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

Nice of you to not include team name. I would assume it’s just to fill the quota the club promises families. It is very rare a notable club goes to an event like spring blast. It’s an assumption but my guess is that they weren’t invited or didn’t register for fall tournaments soon enough and are trying to make up for it by adding some cheaper local tournaments in- that’s based on your statement they only had one fall event. It also could be to just help the team practice.
I have men's 5.5 high top black Nike Huaraches. There's no name here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

It’s probably just a partnership with the tournament director or something. I can’t think of any other reason to attend that unless you’re a younger or weaker team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

Sounds a lot like 91 girls. Putting their girls in crappy my lacrosse tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

It’s probably just a partnership with the tournament director or something. I can’t think of any other reason to attend that unless you’re a younger or weaker team

Sounds like you are trying to hurt another club.
Let it go already!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

Sounds a lot like 91 girls. Putting their girls in crappy my lacrosse tournaments.

Sprint blast isn’t a my lacrosse tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok this isn’t mean to be rude in anyway but just genuinely trying to understand something. A friend of mines daughter plays on a 24 team that has been consistently looked down upon as a club and team went to a tournament today where they paid to play in their second tournament of the year, the first being NXT and the second being Spring Blast off today. She didn’t say anything negative about it, so if you are associated with the team please know no one on your team said anything bad, but from looking up this event I’m very confused as to why their money was filtered into one poor fall tournament and another weak s winter tournament with zero college coaches where they played two local town teams and a team ranked 150 last year.

My question is what the point of events like these are for recruiting aged kids? What is the purpose of spending your allotted money for tournaments on these types of events? Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?

It’s probably just a partnership with the tournament director or something. I can’t think of any other reason to attend that unless you’re a younger or weaker team

Sounds like you are trying to hurt another club.
Let it go already!

I purposefully didn't put the club name and made sure to specifically say no one complained. Things like this make people with no negative intentions afraid to post.
Maybe it was just used as a way to get the kids to play together against other teams regardless of competition level in preperation for the upcoming tournament season. Maybe a chance to have them together before the school seasons start and time becomes more limited. There's probably something to be said for having them all come together to just play.
"Is it for team chemistry and field time even though no recruiting is happening?"

Probably That ^^^
You gave enough hints to know who you are talking about.
Maybe this was an additional paid for event for players to get together.
Teams do it all the time but are never called out about it.
Is it safe to assume the other kids getting in the JO event are basically the scout players? Additionally, as I previously stated, I have a tough time buying that many college coaches will even be at the Junior Open.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe it was just used as a way to get the kids to play together against other teams regardless of competition level in preperation for the upcoming tournament season. Maybe a chance to have them together before the school seasons start and time becomes more limited. There's probably something to be said for having them all come together to just play.

It seems like a waste of money to go to a tournament like that at this age but to each their own
The clubs make ~$10,000-$20,000 per team depending on many factors. There is no firm "allotment of tourney funds" and clubs have some serious discretion in this department but usually choose to stick to what they promise since the tourneys are their biggest expenses. Among many possible reasons listed already, they could have been trying out some players at new positions or running a new offense and wanted to see it live. Sounds like your team had an opportunity to play some better competition than you are used to. I would say it is usually viewed as a positive when stepping up in class regardless of the actual game result. Hopefully your players enjoyed the challenge and learned from it.
Cleats started becoming difficult to find last August. We were patient enough to land some huarache 8s in October after
checking Dicks and Nike site very frequently. If your player needs cleats now I would not be too picky. One of my players who had a
Nike shoe contract in her head absolutely lovers her new NB turfs and actually admitted how silly it was to only want Nikes.
Additionally, I also saw some adidas LAX cleat availability a while back as well. I did not know they even made LAX cleats until I saw them.
Making any team or attending an event that you can get good film from has a lot of value. Good film doesn't mean running past a slow girl and scoring a goal. Good film is a fast paced clip surrounded by talented competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Making any team or attending an event that you can get good film from has a lot of value. Good film doesn't mean running past a slow girl and scoring a goal. Good film is a fast paced clip surrounded by talented competition.

Seems like a few younger YJ teams, a few 91 teams (including 24), and then mostly local teams with a few random clubs scattered in. Could just be because that team is newer and wanted some reps together so that summer isn’t too rough
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Is it safe to assume the other kids getting in the JO event are basically the scout players? Additionally, as I previously stated, I have a tough time buying that many college coaches will even be at the Junior Open.

Sorry what’s a scout player ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

Of course! but many Division 3 schools are better options than Division 2.
Actually, as far as academics go some D3 schools are better than a good amount of D1
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.



THIS!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Its bizarre weak story and nobody is buying it.
I think it’s the same person trying to get back at a certain club. That person should spend less time worrying about others and spend more time working on themselves.
D3 schools are great, but they are recruiting later in the process. 2022s and 2023s committing to top D1 programs now are the exception, not the rule. Most tops D1 programs are done with recruiting for these years. Top programs mostly will be focused on 2024s after they are done with their spring season. 2024s, this is your push year! Go to as many school camps and showcases as you can. You’re in charge of your destiny and getting noticed - don’t sit back and count on your club coach to do the work. Lastly, if there are no events happening, then practice practice practice, make videos and send emails!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...

Question about D3, since our goal for our daughter (2026) is mostly academic and hoping that lacrosse can be a "hook" and scholarship is not important for us. Does the fact that she plays competitive lacrosse (not as competitive to get in top 20 programs) will help her get in top academic D3 schools (e.g. Tufts, Chicago)? Or is it basically all about her academic credentials?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...

The discussion relating to DI, DII and DIII has been going on for a long time on this site and is really all just nonsense. Making broad sweeping comparisons really serves no purpose. There is a school and a program for just about all who want to play in college, many factors go into the decision on where a student athlete chooses to go to school and play lacrosse. Playing a team sport is beneficial on so many levels that it really doesn't matter what Division an athlete competes at. Be happy that there are so many opportunities for our daughters.

Just the term "DI" is painting with too broad of a brush in just about every aspect.

To state that "Many high academic girls first choice is D3" is a very misleading.

Help your daughter find the best overall fit so that she is happy and has a great college experience. Every kid is different, every school is different, every lacrosse program and their culture is different and there are different levels of academics and athletics across all Divisions.
That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...[/quote]

100%! My 2022 daughter chose a high academic D3 school in order to have a college experience on top of competitive lacrosse. After going on 3 official visits to D1 schools in the 10-25 ranking range, she realized that your college experience really all about lacrosse and at the schools she was looking at, the academics were also rigorous. You live with teammates, not allowed to join sororities (at least at the schools she visited) and obviously can't spend a semester abroad. It's not for everyone. My 2024 daughter will likely go D1 because that's the experience she wants. D3 isn't just girls who didn't get D1 offers. I would strongly encourage high academic players to at least check out a couple D3 programs. They may be surprised like my daughter.
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That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...

100%! My 2022 daughter chose a high academic D3 school in order to have a college experience on top of competitive lacrosse. After going on 3 official visits to D1 schools in the 10-25 ranking range, she realized that your college experience really all about lacrosse and at the schools she was looking at, the academics were also rigorous. You live with teammates, not allowed to join sororities (at least at the schools she visited) and obviously can't spend a semester abroad. It's not for everyone. My 2024 daughter will likely go D1 because that's the experience she wants. D3 isn't just girls who didn't get D1 offers. I would strongly encourage high academic players to at least check out a couple D3 programs. They may be surprised like my daughter.[/quote]

Define competitive lacrosse. Your daughter is the exception to the rule, and as the previous post pointed out you can not paint with a broad brush when discussing women's lacrosse at any level. Just help your daughter find the best possible fit.
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We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...

Question about D3, since our goal for our daughter (2026) is mostly academic and hoping that lacrosse can be a "hook" and scholarship is not important for us. Does the fact that she plays competitive lacrosse (not as competitive to get in top 20 programs) will help her get in top academic D3 schools (e.g. Tufts, Chicago)? Or is it basically all about her academic credentials?

Schools like Chicago aren't taking kids that aren't academically eligible and Chicago is only a fit for certain kids. Will it help with the application process? It will probably get her a point or so, but the admissions process is still about the academics and Chicago isn't really giving away spots for athletes that aren't qualified, or they wouldn't have any teams because all the athletes would leave.

When people mention wanting to go to Chicago, it's time to have a serious discussion about what the school is and what it's like to be a student there.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

That is completely untrue. Many high academic girls first choice is D3. MANY...they don't start recruiting until JULY when you get an academic read....if you would even get into many of these schools. Many D3 schools are excellent and competitive...

Question about D3, since our goal for our daughter (2026) is mostly academic and hoping that lacrosse can be a "hook" and scholarship is not important for us. Does the fact that she plays competitive lacrosse (not as competitive to get in top 20 programs) will help her get in top academic D3 schools (e.g. Tufts, Chicago)? Or is it basically all about her academic credentials?

Schools like Chicago aren't taking kids that aren't academically eligible and Chicago is only a fit for certain kids. Will it help with the application process? It will probably get her a point or so, but the admissions process is still about the academics and Chicago isn't really giving away spots for athletes that aren't qualified, or they wouldn't have any teams because all the athletes would leave.

When people mention wanting to go to Chicago, it's time to have a serious discussion about what the school is and what it's like to be a student there.

Good luck!

Thanks for your response! She (or we) is not particularly interested in Chicago per se (still a little soon) but just wanted to know if any top academic D3 schools would give any weight on ability to play on the team vs. purely academics. Any further advice is appreciated.
Practice player...someone for the YJ gjrls to play against. In this context, if u follwed thread, soneone claimed its mostly YJ getting the looks at the event.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

Of course! but many Division 3 schools are better options than Division 2.
Actually, as far as academics go some D3 schools are better than a good amount of D1

If lacrosse is a driving factor in your DD’s college choice, many ranked D2 & D3 teams would beat the mid to low level D1 teams on most days. Many girls would choose the opportunity to win a national championship over the certainty that you won’t. Many great lacrosse programs and universities in highly sought after (& year round warm) locations vs a low level D1 program in a small northern (& cold) location. Kids choose their colleges for many reasons. It’s usually just the adults who want the D1 bragging rights. I’ve known many kids over the years who turned down D1 offers for a D2 & D3 program and had a great experience, actually touched the field, and received many honors along the way! Many times it is the better choice!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are amazed at the amount of schools offering women’s lacrosse with well over 500. The discussions on here have peaked my interest in the 23 class. Even though it’s more than 6 months into their recruiting, we cant believe the volume and pace.Tons of activity the last few weeks and months.
Yesterday-Arizona State, Gardner Webb, Sacred Heart and Central Michigan. Some very competitive D2 and 3 also in Bentley, Lenoir Rhyne, SUNY Cortland, Denison, to name a few.
The fact that D2 and D3 has only just started for 2023 is amazing. How do these schools juggle recruitment and the start of their seasons??
Despite thinking that we would hit some schools this winter as a 2024, we were informed that the top D3 schools wouldn’t allow us to attend because they were still looking heavily at 22 and 23
Other showcases that allowed 24s didnt seem to be paying much attention to us. One of the D1 coaches recently told the 2023 group that they had plenty of spots left and didn’t even address 2024. I know they can’t talk to the girls officially but the consensus was they didn’t seem to watching.
I’m glad we exposed my daughter to some of this stuff, but probably was overkill. Most people agree that Texas was fun but it wasn’t necessary for girls to land in a good landing spot. Maybe a bit too early for a majority of girls?.
I agree that this summer and fall that tourneys like that will be necessary for 2024.

D3 will be behind because they often get whoever is left who doesn’t get d1 d2 offers

Of course! but many Division 3 schools are better options than Division 2.
Actually, as far as academics go some D3 schools are better than a good amount of D1

If lacrosse is a driving factor in your DD’s college choice, many ranked D2 & D3 teams would beat the mid to low level D1 teams on most days. Many girls would choose the opportunity to win a national championship over the certainty that you won’t. Many great lacrosse programs and universities in highly sought after (& year round warm) locations vs a low level D1 program in a small northern (& cold) location. Kids choose their colleges for many reasons. It’s usually just the adults who want the D1 bragging rights. I’ve known many kids over the years who turned down D1 offers for a D2 & D3 program and had a great experience, actually touched the field, and received many honors along the way! Many times it is the better choice!

If lacrosse is the driving factor you may want to reevaluate your daughters priorities.
Can someone explain why NYSR chose coaches for age groups they coach travel for or have a child the age of? It seems completely unfair and bias. They should have coaches who coach travel with a different grad year. I’m sure the talent will be lessened because they’re picking their own players as a favor to them.
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If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Yes. You are so right and it’s always the same story with a slightly different spin.

Vicious and mean. Maybe this person should focus less on others and work on their own problems.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Yes. You are so right and it’s always the same story with a slightly different spin.

Vicious and mean. Maybe this person should focus less on others and work on their own problems.

I’ve posted about this club myself and have witnessed other posts so it’s more than one person. Maybe I’m vicious or mean by your standard but holding others accountable and/or asking questions isn’t a bad thing in my book
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain why NYSR chose coaches for age groups they coach travel for or have a child the age of? It seems completely unfair and bias. They should have coaches who coach travel with a different grad year. I’m sure the talent will be lessened because they’re picking their own players as a favor to them.

Gearing up an excuse already for why your kid may not make it? Come on now.
The pointing fingers when a club is called outrageous. This website is designed for that. It’s been happening since your kid was in elementary school calm down
It is a valid point from the OP, so much nepotism and bias in these types of events. They claim to be fair, but we all know the truth. Same Directors picking teams based on their own club. I guess your kid plays for the YJ team so your safe 😂
Who are you holding accountable? I thought you weren’t associated with this club ? Didn’t you claim it was your daughters friends team ? Very odd how much you have invested in your daughters friends club team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Yes. You are so right and it’s always the same story with a slightly different spin.

Vicious and mean. Maybe this person should focus less on others and work on their own problems.

I’ve posted about this club myself and have witnessed other posts so it’s more than one person. Maybe I’m vicious or mean by your standard but holding others accountable and/or asking questions isn’t a bad thing in my book

Constantly posing as a parent and acting like you are airing the clubs dirty laundry over and over is weak. Please settle your grudge somewhere else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain why NYSR chose coaches for age groups they coach travel for or have a child the age of? It seems completely unfair and bias. They should have coaches who coach travel with a different grad year. I’m sure the talent will be lessened because they’re picking their own players as a favor to them.

If the coaches aren’t fair I’d be very shocked. I’m doubtful any coach wants to provide a spot to someone they can’t win with
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Who are you holding accountable? I thought you weren’t associated with this club ? Didn’t you claim it was your daughters friends team ? Very odd how much you have invested in your daughters friends club team.

I wasn’t the original poster I was replying to the other post where someone agreed that should be aired out but it seems to have been deleted
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected
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How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one


That journal thing is a joke. Would you really include that in your Bio you are sending to coaches.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one


That journal thing is a joke. Would you really include that in your Bio you are sending to coaches.

I just want to know how the girls were evaluated who made it
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one


That journal thing is a joke. Would you really include that in your Bio you are sending to coaches.

I just want to know how the girls were evaluated who made it

Who knows, congrats to the girls who were recognized but it's just way too many players and what is it a "Watch List" for? 190 players, really? Lists like these are part of the problem, now we will have 190 parents believing that their daughter is some sort of top tier player. This contributes to all the complaining when players do not make UA Underclass or whatever. Just like every other year, there are probably 25 legit players in the class of 2024. Every time one of these lists comes out there is one truth that is told on this site... "the only lists that matter are the lists that the college coaches keep" and the recruiting process lets everyone know how the players stack up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one


That journal thing is a joke. Would you really include that in your Bio you are sending to coaches.

I just want to know how the girls were evaluated who made it

Who knows, congrats to the girls who were recognized but it's just way too many players and what is it a "Watch List" for? 190 players, really? Lists like these are part of the problem, now we will have 190 parents believing that their daughter is some sort of top tier player. This contributes to all the complaining when players do not make UA Underclass or whatever. Just like every other year, there are probably 25 legit players in the class of 2024. Every time one of these lists comes out there is one truth that is told on this site... "the only lists that matter are the lists that the college coaches keep" and the recruiting process lets everyone know how the players stack up.

It’s nice for the girls to see their name on something. It gives them something to keep working for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How was this 2024 pre-season watch list selected? There some town teams where the entire Highschools 24 class was selected and then some high schools with like no kids selected

What list are you referring to?

The journal one


That journal thing is a joke. Would you really include that in your Bio you are sending to coaches.

I just want to know how the girls were evaluated who made it

Who knows, congrats to the girls who were recognized but it's just way too many players and what is it a "Watch List" for? 190 players, really? Lists like these are part of the problem, now we will have 190 parents believing that their daughter is some sort of top tier player. This contributes to all the complaining when players do not make UA Underclass or whatever. Just like every other year, there are probably 25 legit players in the class of 2024. Every time one of these lists comes out there is one truth that is told on this site... "the only lists that matter are the lists that the college coaches keep" and the recruiting process lets everyone know how the players stack up.

Congrats to whoever made it! If your kid didn’t, it doesn’t mean their recruiting life is over!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Yes. You are so right and it’s always the same story with a slightly different spin.

Vicious and mean. Maybe this person should focus less on others and work on their own problems.

I’ve posted about this club myself and have witnessed other posts so it’s more than one person. Maybe I’m vicious or mean by your standard but holding others accountable and/or asking questions isn’t a bad thing in my book

Constantly posing as a parent and acting like you are airing the clubs dirty laundry over and over is weak. Please settle your grudge somewhere else.

Exactly! Someone with an axe to grind…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daughter does not play for the specific club why would you come on here and stir the pot ? Lots of people making claims and assumptions, when they supposedly don’t have any relationship to the club in question. I’ll never understand why so many people are fixated on other clubs.

Yes. You are so right and it’s always the same story with a slightly different spin.

Vicious and mean. Maybe this person should focus less on others and work on their own problems.

I’ve posted about this club myself and have witnessed other posts so it’s more than one person. Maybe I’m vicious or mean by your standard but holding others accountable and/or asking questions isn’t a bad thing in my book

Constantly posing as a parent and acting like you are airing the clubs dirty laundry over and over is weak. Please settle your grudge somewhere else.

Exactly! Someone with an axe to grind…


If there is dirty laundry to be aired you should probably spend more time fixing that than sitting on this website
LILJ is a business. Watch list and all-star teams are marketing devices to encourage folks to go to their camps and clinics, no more no less.
Yesterdays American Select tryout was another YJ promotion, they knew who was making the team before the tryouts even happened. Couldn't even not have their 2024 YJ tent up right as you walk in. All YJ girls were playing together and everyone else was a after thought.
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Yesterdays American Select tryout was another YJ promotion, they knew who was making the team before the tryouts even happened. Couldn't even not have their 2024 YJ tent up right as you walk in. All YJ girls were playing together and everyone else was a after thought.

FOMO wins again!!!!
Easily over 100 girls just for the 2024. Anyone making this team will definitely be getting in front of the top coaches in the country. If you are on the Black team means you are in the top 10% in the country. Congrats to anyone who makes it.
It was a great event but it really is for a player already on YJ. YJ players calling out plays while in the game and not playing as a team.
I guess LAX is every player for themselves and not a team mentality and that is OK.
I don't know how any player makes this list who was not on varsity last year. The list was supposedly generated by High School stats, Winter league and the LILJ showcase. So many non Varsity players on this list is insulting to the girls who earned it.
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It was a great event but it really is for a player already on YJ. YJ players calling out plays while in the game and not playing as a team.
I guess LAX is every player for themselves and not a team mentality and that is OK.

Better get used to it, selfish players do selfish things. Saturday I watched a selfish player on a highly ranked college team almost cost her team the game 2X in the last couple of minutes. Only a matter of time before the selfishness cost her team a big game. Really unbelievable to watch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know how any player makes this list who was not on varsity last year. The list was supposedly generated by High School stats, Winter league and the LILJ showcase. So many non Varsity players on this list is insulting to the girls who earned it.

Can we move on, the list means nothing, there are way too many players on the list. Bring it down to maybe 40 (even that is probably too many).
Lilj got everyone in fomo mode
Most of the top players on Long Island play for YJ. Girls that have been cut by the YJ top team seem to move to other clubs and are usually the top player on that team. So, it only makes sense that most of the AS Black are from YJ.
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It was a great event but it really is for a player already on YJ. YJ players calling out plays while in the game and not playing as a team.
I guess LAX is every player for themselves and not a team mentality and that is OK.

No! That is not OK! College coaches do not want selfish players. They want team players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most of the top players on Long Island play for YJ. Girls that have been cut by the YJ top team seem to move to other clubs and are usually the top player on that team. So, it only makes sense that most of the AS Black are from YJ.

We all know they had their mind made up before a single kid walked onto that field
HS players walking around "evaluating" full teams sitting out and one of the worst run things ive seen. Teams picked before it started
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was a great event but it really is for a player already on YJ. YJ players calling out plays while in the game and not playing as a team.
I guess LAX is every player for themselves and not a team mentality and that is OK.

No! That is not OK! College coaches do not want selfish players. They want team players.

Sadly that is not always the case.
News flash for the American select teams going forward. The great majority of the best players in any region now play for the top clubs by the time they are sophomores. Upstate will mostly be Monsters girls; Conny will mostly be Grizzlies; MD will mostly be M&D and Skywalkers; NJ will mostly be STEPS, Mass will mostly be Laxachusetts and Mass Elite: PA Tiple H and Ultimate etc, etc. There were several girls on some American Select teams last year that were overmatched. They weren't from the top clubs, they had a great day at the tryouts and made the team. It really was D2 and D3 college evaluators last year and it wasn't perfect, but it was as impartial as you can hope for.
I think it was Chris Rock that said you only as faithful as your options. It's applies to life and the 2024 girls club lacrosse landscape. When your a great player on a decent team, you have options and can jump to the top club in your region. If you are a decent player on a decent team, a top club is not an option for you. That's were we are for the 2024's. The top players have made their way to the best club they can play for. There is still plenty of room at the collegiate level for thousands of girls who want to keep playing!
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I think it was Chris Rock that said you only as faithful as your options. It's applies to life and the 2024 girls club lacrosse landscape. When your a great player on a decent team, you have options and can jump to the top club in your region. If you are a decent player on a decent team, a top club is not an option for you. That's were we are for the 2024's. The top players have made their way to the best club they can play for. There is still plenty of room at the collegiate level for thousands of girls who want to keep playing!

With over 500+ colleges offering 4 yr. Lacrosse, there is prob. A place for every girl who wants to play in college! Hoping all the Girls find a place that will be a good fit, as every girls journey is different. Best of luck to them all.
Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.
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Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.

The same parents will complain every time that it was any reason BUT their kids skills.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.

The same parents will complain every time that it was any reason BUT their kids skills.

Aren't there three teams for LI this year? At this point it's clearly a money grab. Pretty much everyone making it at this point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.

The same parents will complain every time that it was any reason BUT their kids skills.

Aren't there three teams for LI this year? At this point it's clearly a money grab. Pretty much everyone making it at this point.

Again, your kid must not have made it
I think if you made the black team it’s worth the money. You will be playing with the top talent from Long Island versus the top talent in the country in front of the top college coaches. Especially, if it is your recruiting year.
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Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.

The same parents will complain every time that it was any reason BUT their kids skills.

Aren't there three teams for LI this year? At this point it's clearly a money grab. Pretty much everyone making it at this point.

Again, your kid must not have made it

You're assuming my kid tried out. Not in Long Island. My point is, what the heck is the point of having three "All Star" teams? Kind of losses it's appeal if pretty much half the girls make it. My complaint here is that it should be only one team...I'm not complaining about politics...I get how the machine works.
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Anyone who didn’t make AS needs to stink it up buttercup. Same parents every time complaining the event is unfair or a money grab.

I think some of it, is connections and political. However, by sophomore year the top players are already usually known and generally will be chosen to be on these teams even before the tryouts. The remainder of the spots could go to a number of other players on any given day.

The same parents will complain every time that it was any reason BUT their kids skills.

Aren't there three teams for LI this year? At this point it's clearly a money grab. Pretty much everyone making it at this point.

Again, your kid must not have made it

You're assuming my kid tried out. Not in Long Island. My point is, what the heck is the point of having three "All Star" teams? Kind of losses it's appeal if pretty much half the girls make it. My complaint here is that it should be only one team...I'm not complaining about politics...I get how the machine works.

i believe it's actually 4 teams
yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.
Everyone made it this year, relax buttercup.
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.
But if you are not on the top(Black) team it might make you look bad.
obviously you want the Black team, but the girls don't control that aspect of it.
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.
But if you are not on the top(Black) team it might make you look bad.

It all comes out in the wash, the college coaches will let everyone know who the best players are. The kids that receive offers from the best college programs like BC, UNC, Northwestern , Maryland, Virginia and the other 10-15 schools that are always on top are most likely the best players. Collectively those coaches do not miss many legit players, they just don’t.
I heard Black, Red, and Grey what is the 4th team?
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I heard Black, Red, and Grey what is the 4th team?
There is no 4th team. 120 something girls - lots of talent. Evaluators made 3 teams. Black Red Gray. I think Black and Red will be very good teams and lots of college coaches will be watching all the games. Congrats to all.
Have to be happy with all the girls who get a chance to play especially in this grad year. I understand how people might think it’s a money grab which is probably true to some degree but if they get to play in front of coaches isn’t that a good thing?
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Have to be happy with all the girls who get a chance to play especially in this grad year. I understand how people might think it’s a money grab which is probably true to some degree but if they get to play in front of coaches isn’t that a good thing?

When Under Armour Underclass came out it was about trying to identify all of the Top Players from around the country and having them compete against each other. It was by far the most competitive HS lacrosse around. Having 3 or 4 teams at the same age group from the same area is watering it down tremendously. I do agree that if it can get a kid playing in front of college coaches, then why not do it? Just don't bill it as some sort of elite/special/select event.
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Most of the top players on Long Island play for YJ. Girls that have been cut by the YJ top team seem to move to other clubs and are usually the top player on that team. So, it only makes sense that most of the AS Black are from YJ.

We all know they had their mind made up before a single kid walked onto that field

Who were the evaluators?
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Have to be happy with all the girls who get a chance to play especially in this grad year. I understand how people might think it’s a money grab which is probably true to some degree but if they get to play in front of coaches isn’t that a good thing?

When Under Armour Underclass came out it was about trying to identify all of the Top Players from around the country and having them compete against each other. It was by far the most competitive HS lacrosse around. Having 3 or 4 teams at the same age group from the same area is watering it down tremendously. I do agree that if it can get a kid playing in front of college coaches, then why not do it? Just don't bill it as some sort of elite/special/select event.

UA still only legit ELITE HS tourney.
American Select Biggest money grab going with 3 teams per class. that’s comical.
AS stated last year it was “non-political” selection. biggest laugher ever. Mommy coaching 24 cause last year her kid couldn’t make team and the daddy coach who got daughter on Black for the 26’s is the biggest blank to parents who paid money for their kids to tryout.
If I picked my 3 year old son for the HS team it would’ve be as bad as this clown getting his kid on A team.
Good job AS, way to water down the product and make it a political $$$$ grab in year 2.
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.

Its 3 teams guys. Relax everyone why cant we all just be happy for the TEENAGE GIRLS who made it....stop pounding your chests and living through them. Each girl who wants to play in college will. God its so insane how the majority of people act on this site. Remember TEENAGE GIRLS !!!!!!
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I heard Black, Red, and Grey what is the 4th team?
There is no 4th team. 120 something girls - lots of talent. Evaluators made 3 teams. Black Red Gray. I think Black and Red will be very good teams and lots of college coaches will be watching all the games. Congrats to all.


Gray is a wildcard because they didn't play in it last year.....By the way Black was 2-2 last year and Red was 1-3.......They killed it !!!!!
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.

Its 3 teams guys. Relax everyone why cant we all just be happy for the TEENAGE GIRLS who made it....stop pounding your chests and living through them. Each girl who wants to play in college will. God its so insane how the majority of people act on this site. Remember TEENAGE GIRLS !!!!!!


So for $700+ you can play on a ‘C’ team??
So that’s 6 teams per 2 grades vs UA 1 team per 2 grades and UA is FREE if you make it!!
And if Mommy is your coach you can make Top team…… hmmm yea that’s something i want to be a part of.
Happy for what girls?? the 75% that made it or happy for 750 bucks x 3 teams x 4 classes?? ohhh right it’s for the kids
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I heard Black, Red, and Grey what is the 4th team?
There is no 4th team. 120 something girls - lots of talent. Evaluators made 3 teams. Black Red Gray. I think Black and Red will be very good teams and lots of college coaches will be watching all the games. Congrats to all.


Gray is a wildcard because they didn't play in it last year.....By the way Black was 2-2 last year and Red was 1-3.......They killed it !!!!!

3 teams is ridiculous for a "select" event - especially when the 2 LI teams went 2-2 and 1-3 last year. And now they've added a 3rd team?!? just call it a tournament at this point. what a waste of time and money.
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[quote=Anonymous]I heard Black, Red, and Grey what is the 4th team?
There is no 4th team. 120 something girls - lots of talent. Evaluators made 3 teams. Black Red Gray. I think Black and Red will be very good teams and lots of college coaches will be watching all the games. Congrats to all.


Gray is a wildcard because they didn't play in it last year.....By the way Black was 2-2 last year and Red was 1-3.......They killed it !!!!![/quote

I understand why people say it gets watered down by adding more teams. If it was supposed to be equivalent to the level of the UA format? It just seems like another showcase like others and not exclusive? Hopefully some good college coaches attend?
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.

Its 3 teams guys. Relax everyone why cant we all just be happy for the TEENAGE GIRLS who made it....stop pounding your chests and living through them. Each girl who wants to play in college will. God its so insane how the majority of people act on this site. Remember TEENAGE GIRLS !!!!!!

maybe they can pass out participation ribbons too! 3 teams is ridiculous.
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Have to be happy with all the girls who get a chance to play especially in this grad year. I understand how people might think it’s a money grab which is probably true to some degree but if they get to play in front of coaches isn’t that a good thing?

When Under Armour Underclass came out it was about trying to identify all of the Top Players from around the country and having them compete against each other. It was by far the most competitive HS lacrosse around. Having 3 or 4 teams at the same age group from the same area is watering it down tremendously. I do agree that if it can get a kid playing in front of college coaches, then why not do it? Just don't bill it as some sort of elite/special/select event.

Agree, if they wanted to go head to head with UA for being a select event with the top talent, they needed one team and it to be super selective! Then, the college coaches would know they are going to see the top talent.
NYSR YJ and Legacy festival. Supposedly they’re making 2 24 teams ( a 24 /23 and a 24 team) Makes it way less competitive for the 24 class so more spots will be given out. Thoughts on if this is good or bad?

I’m torn.

More spots for kids means more chances for different players who would have made it to make it. At the same time, this waters down another event how many said the watchlist and AS is with 3-4 teams.

I miss the days of 1 elite team of the top girls.
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NYSR YJ and Legacy festival. Supposedly they’re making 2 24 teams ( a 24 /23 and a 24 team) Makes it way less competitive for the 24 class so more spots will be given out. Thoughts on if this is good or bad?

I’m torn.

More spots for kids means more chances for different players who would have made it to make it. At the same time, this waters down another event how many said the watchlist and AS is with 3-4 teams.

I miss the days of 1 elite team of the top girls.

Yes, a super elite tournament is a good idea. However, I’m glad they are doing these other tournaments and including a lot more girls to get chance to play in front of college coaches. There is room for them all. They just need to be clear what exactly they are and who, as far as colleges will be attending their events.
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Have to be happy with all the girls who get a chance to play especially in this grad year. I understand how people might think it’s a money grab which is probably true to some degree but if they get to play in front of coaches isn’t that a good thing?

When Under Armour Underclass came out it was about trying to identify all of the Top Players from around the country and having them compete against each other. It was by far the most competitive HS lacrosse around. Having 3 or 4 teams at the same age group from the same area is watering it down tremendously. I do agree that if it can get a kid playing in front of college coaches, then why not do it? Just don't bill it as some sort of elite/special/select event.

Agree, if they wanted to go head to head with UA for being a select event with the top talent, they needed one team and it to be super selective! Then, the college coaches would know they are going to see the top talent.


yes the AS Black team is really or the UA is prob saying a lot. NYS is combining age groups so it should be a fun tournament not really a be all end all. they will have coaches for 24's im sure
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NYSR YJ and Legacy festival. Supposedly they’re making 2 24 teams ( a 24 /23 and a 24 team) Makes it way less competitive for the 24 class so more spots will be given out. Thoughts on if this is good or bad?

I’m torn.

More spots for kids means more chances for different players who would have made it to make it. At the same time, this waters down another event how many said the watchlist and AS is with 3-4 teams.

I miss the days of 1 elite team of the top girls.

We will know who the top girls are in about 6 months.
Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.
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NYSR YJ and Legacy festival. Supposedly they’re making 2 24 teams ( a 24 /23 and a 24 team) Makes it way less competitive for the 24 class so more spots will be given out. Thoughts on if this is good or bad?

I’m torn.

More spots for kids means more chances for different players who would have made it to make it. At the same time, this waters down another event how many said the watchlist and AS is with 3-4 teams.

I miss the days of 1 elite team of the top girls.

We will know who the top girls are in about 6 months.

The college coaches will let you know who the top girls are. Don’t believe all the hype. Nobody hyped their players more than the YJ.
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.
I thought the extra (red) Long Island American select team last year was done because team Canada did not have tryouts. That left 1 less expected team and Long Island tryouts were done very late. There was a need for an another team and plenty of talent to create one from Long Island. Problem solved.

Adding another long Island team this year just isn't a good look. I'm sure the talent is there and the interest, but what is going to happen at other talented regions? I have no issues with more girls getting a chance to play, but be up front about it. That may be too much to expect for 2 reasons. American Select is competing directing against Under Armour tournament since they are scheduled for the same weekend again. Cashing more checks while diminishing the talent going to the UA tryouts in several months may be American Selects justification behind closed doors.

Have the American Select team from California, Conn., Long Island, Upstate, Florida been publically posted since tryouts are over??
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Yes. Turnout for 23 was probably light so adding some 24s to the 23 team. No big deal. Nassau will probably do the same. They had to combine 22 and 23 last year to have enough girls.

NYSRC is a fun event. Just a warning. however, at least last year, it's more about in state bragging rights then it is about getting in front of college coaches.
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I thought the extra (red) Long Island American select team last year was done because team Canada did not have tryouts. That left 1 less expected team and Long Island tryouts were done very late. There was a need for an another team and plenty of talent to create one from Long Island. Problem solved.

Adding another long Island team this year just isn't a good look. I'm sure the talent is there and the interest, but what is going to happen at other talented regions? I have no issues with more girls getting a chance to play, but be up front about it. That may be too much to expect for 2 reasons. American Select is competing directing against Under Armour tournament since they are scheduled for the same weekend again. Cashing more checks while diminishing the talent going to the UA tryouts in several months may be American Selects justification behind closed doors.

Have the American Select team from California, Conn., Long Island, Upstate, Florida been publically posted since tryouts are over??

Very hard to take it serious, when they see enough girls to make more teams, so they do. At $615 per girl, it’s a huge cash cow. It is a shame, as we had high hopes that AS would truly be an elite event and not just another huge showcase. Now, it seems it’s all about the $s and comes across as a money grab?

They are def. Watering it down with so many teams. I Will Probably have my kid tryout for UA now, instead of accepting a spot. Does anyone know if there Is a list of college coaches signed up to attend AS? Thanks
Not true. Yes more girls made it this year but I know many girls who tried out who didn't make the team.
Still great exposure lets stop putting kids down on the "c" team again they are 15/16 years old. detest to break it to you but it isn't going to ruin their life. PARENTS need to be happy for CHILDREN not putting them down.
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I thought the extra (red) Long Island American select team last year was done because team Canada did not have tryouts. That left 1 less expected team and Long Island tryouts were done very late. There was a need for an another team and plenty of talent to create one from Long Island. Problem solved.

Adding another long Island team this year just isn't a good look. I'm sure the talent is there and the interest, but what is going to happen at other talented regions? I have no issues with more girls getting a chance to play, but be up front about it. That may be too much to expect for 2 reasons. American Select is competing directing against Under Armour tournament since they are scheduled for the same weekend again. Cashing more checks while diminishing the talent going to the UA tryouts in several months may be American Selects justification behind closed doors.

Have the American Select team from California, Conn., Long Island, Upstate, Florida been publically posted since tryouts are over??

maybe American Select could spend some money on hiring a second person to run their website and get the rosters posted - California tryouts were back in January!
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Still great exposure lets stop putting kids down on the "c" team again they are 15/16 years old. detest to break it to you but it isn't going to ruin their life. PARENTS need to be happy for CHILDREN not putting them down.

who's coaching 24's?
I think we can all agree that we have been somewhat taken advantage of with all these events, whether it be the UA and Best in Class video evaluation process. Maybe it was the multiple Select teams run by the same franchise (Juniors OPen, AS, NYSR). Its always good for the girls to get some type of exposure, extra play and possibly exposed to college coaches. Obviously every parent wants their child to be selected and recognized for their abilities, just as the parents do as well. These events like many in the past have become extremely popular and expensive commitments. My only real gripe is they have not made commitments as to what college coaches will be attending these events. I like many others have committed to two of these events already, but we have not been made aware of who and if any colleges are locked in as of yet. I would think for the amount of money being charged, there should be a defined amount of colleges committed to these events.
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I think we can all agree that we have been somewhat taken advantage of with all these events, whether it be the UA and Best in Class video evaluation process. Maybe it was the multiple Select teams run by the same franchise (Juniors OPen, AS, NYSR). Its always good for the girls to get some type of exposure, extra play and possibly exposed to college coaches. Obviously every parent wants their child to be selected and recognized for their abilities, just as the parents do as well. These events like many in the past have become extremely popular and expensive commitments. My only real gripe is they have not made commitments as to what college coaches will be attending these events. I like many others have committed to two of these events already, but we have not been made aware of who and if any colleges are locked in as of yet. I would think for the amount of money being charged, there should be a defined amount of colleges committed to these events.


I wish Jrs Open would release a coach list. I'm not as worried about AS and UA150 because we know who was there last year. I hope this one isn't a mistake.
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Message we got yesterdays seems to be that the 23/24 is the 24 b team because better 23s are committed and not doing this event. The all 24 team is the top 24s. Who cares either way though. If you want to play and made a team, play!
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Message we got yesterdays seems to be that the 23/24 is the 24 b team because better 23s are committed and not doing this event. The all 24 team is the top 24s. Who cares either way though. If you want to play and made a team, play!

So this event ended at 10pm at night and an email was sent out the same night. Seems like the list of players was already made before the tryouts happened if within a couple of hours they already sent out invitations. Just doesn’t feel like a real tryout what time did they have to go over the list and truly evaluate what they seen. Don’t get me wrong. If you been around this for a while you know who the top Suffolk girls are but if your making two teams that’s a different story.
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yes four teams were selected this year, 85 percent of the kids who tried out made it this year, was told it was to make the three day weekend worth the money. More games will be played than usual, not sure if the other regions selected four teams as well. i can only speak for Long Island.
But if you are not on the top(Black) team it might make you look bad.

Why? Ok sure if on 2nd team you were evaluated as a top 6 mid / attack / D or top 2 goalie. The horror
3rd best goalie on LI should prolly quit. It’s over. Also by the perfect metrics your 3rd not 2nd or a Middie who rated as 8 not say 4-6? Obviously if on 2nd team kid isn’t a top 10 player but separation between say the 11-50 kids are pretty close I’ve noticed over the years.
If the 2nd team was at other fields playing other “2nd” teams than sure not great. Last year the 23 and 24 Red played all other regions top team. If your team is weak it may be a poor experience but if they aren’t kid will be getting great exposure to coaches. There were tons there last year. I read here if it ain’t top 25 school than failure. Not sure how 22 team did but 23 Black LI had many top picks and 23 Red had it looks like 12 of 17 kids do very well. Unless website is wrong it looks like
Brown
Penn
Stony Brook x 2
Lafayette
Hi Point
ECU
Pace
SHU
UMass
Marist
Cortland
Florida Southern
I bet I missed 1 or 2 but that’s not to bad.

Black team was better
Virginia x 2 Stanford x 2
Norte Dane Yale
Stony Brook. X 3 JMU
Albany. Quinnipiac
Kent State Binghamton x 2
Navy. Delaware
UNC. Florida x 3
Hofstra Duke
Villanova
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Oh my God. Did you just ask who the A team is !!!!!! Please think before you type. Does it really F'N matter !!! We all should be pulling for EVERY girl that made any of these select teams
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Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Yes. Turnout for 23 was probably light so adding some 24s to the 23 team. No big deal. Nassau will probably do the same. They had to combine 22 and 23 last year to have enough girls.

NYSRC is a fun event. Just a warning. however, at least last year, it's more about in state bragging rights then it is about getting in front of college coaches.

The majority of the 23's from last year did not do it this year because the competition was horrible. They won all 5 games they played by an average of 13 goals a game.
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Still great exposure lets stop putting kids down on the "c" team again they are 15/16 years old. detest to break it to you but it isn't going to ruin their life. PARENTS need to be happy for CHILDREN not putting them down.


Amen to that !
The email was not sent out last night.




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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would the 24/23 team play in the division for 2023? Making one team for each year.

They'd have to play 23 no? So then the 23/24 team would be the A team or vice versa? Confused.

Message we got yesterdays seems to be that the 23/24 is the 24 b team because better 23s are committed and not doing this event. The all 24 team is the top 24s. Who cares either way though. If you want to play and made a team, play!

So this event ended at 10pm at night and an email was sent out the same night. Seems like the list of players was already made before the tryouts happened if within a couple of hours they already sent out invitations. Just doesn’t feel like a real tryout what time did they have to go over the list and truly evaluate what they seen. Don’t get me wrong. If you been around this for a while you know who the top Suffolk girls are but if your making two teams that’s a different story.
The emails came out this afternoon, not last night.
“ who cares either way” but let me try and put down a group of teenagers because of some information another daddy told me . darn you guys are sour ! You will look for anyway to put down a kid.
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“ who cares either way” but let me try and put down a group of teenagers because of some information another daddy told me . darn you guys are sour ! You will look for anyway to put down a kid.

Someone asked. It isn’t putting kids down, they aren’t even reading this. 23 didn’t have enough so they basically made a 24 second team. I think it’s great girls who wouldn’t have made the 24 team have an opportunity to play. I also agree with the poster who said the team was made before the tryout. Majority of team is the same as last year same two teams with 1-3 girls from other teams that probably had some sort of connection and had strings pulled.

The 23/24 team has very few kids on it who are on the two teams that run the Suffolk teams. Pay attention to who makes it and you’ll see any kids not on those two teams didn’t make the “A” team
They should change the name to ASE - American Select Everyone
Neither one are elite events. Coaches know it, parents know it, players know it. Same goes for the Junior Open and the other over hyped flavor of the month events. The least advertised showcases that have stood the test of time are the best bang for your buck. They still get quality coaches and good instruction. I don't subscribe the whole money grab theory. Its the FOMO parents that write the checks and create the false hysteria. None of these events are be all end all for recruiting. Most coaches have a list of kids they are coming to watch and hope that another few kids pop and then they add them to their list.
If you want to see the coaching list just go to

www.bestlacrossecoachesontheplanet.com.
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Neither one are elite events. Coaches know it, parents know it, players know it. Same goes for the Junior Open and the other over hyped flavor of the month events. The least advertised showcases that have stood the test of time are the best bang for your buck. They still get quality coaches and good instruction. I don't subscribe the whole money grab theory. Its the FOMO parents that write the checks and create the false hysteria. None of these events are be all end all for recruiting. Most coaches have a list of kids they are coming to watch and hope that another few kids pop and then they add them to their list.

Hope you are not referring to UA! They do not have the best talent or best coaches! Tides are turning
The College coaches will show up where the top talent goes. That will benefit all the other players on those teams as well. Players email coaches what events they will be playing in. If there are certain girls they want to see play, they will send someone.
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.
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I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.


Ever consider it isn’t politics and some kids are just better anyway and team they play for is better than your kid or kids team? There’s a reason the A teams are dominated by the same few clubs.
Hahahaha good call but the entire season is full of watered down FOMO events. Too much nonsense and it’s amazing that you are all debating about it on here. Waste of Time, Energy and Money
I do consider that, I’m not concerned about my kid. My kid plays and if it matters plays on a A team and made the top team. I just think to have multiple teams is not a terrible thing. If your kid made a top team at one of these events, then you have nothing to worry about. College coaches know what teams are what . It’s not a bad thing to have two teams , more exposure. I just think people are to worked up over two teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.

I don’t think anyone is “disgruntled”. Most of the posts are about the nature of the money grab. There should only be one team. Nobody on the other teams have a shot at being recruited to a top 25 program. No coaches are watching the b and c teams. Better off attending the camp. Use last year as an example
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.


Ever consider it isn’t politics and some kids are just better anyway and team they play for is better than your kid or kids team? There’s a reason the A teams are dominated by the same few clubs.

And now even more kids added to the “watch list” what a joke.
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Neither one are elite events. Coaches know it, parents know it, players know it. Same goes for the Junior Open and the other over hyped flavor of the month events. The least advertised showcases that have stood the test of time are the best bang for your buck. They still get quality coaches and good instruction. I don't subscribe the whole money grab theory. Its the FOMO parents that write the checks and create the false hysteria. None of these events are be all end all for recruiting. Most coaches have a list of kids they are coming to watch and hope that another few kids pop and then they add them to their list.

Hope you are not referring to UA! They do not have the best talent or best coaches! Tides are turning

After one year tides are turning? LOL.

I sat on the sidelines last year watching the 2022/2023 teams and listened into a conversation between Cindy Timchal, Cathy Reese, Julie Myers, Colleen Shearer, and a some others. The topic of conversation was getting games on the schedule and maybe setting up a camp somewhere, along with their impending summer vacations. I managed to see every top college program at the event.

That's what puts kids into the tryouts and as long as the coaches are showing up, kids will keep signing up.

UA may very well die, but it's currently far from dead.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.


Ever consider it isn’t politics and some kids are just better anyway and team they play for is better than your kid or kids team? There’s a reason the A teams are dominated by the same few clubs.

And now even more kids added to the “watch list” what a joke.

It’s all from the same club. Probably someone send in some names after the list went out. Not a big deal in my opinion since we already knew this list wasn’t legit. The club probably saw their kids weren’t represented and sent in some names to be added.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.


Ever consider it isn’t politics and some kids are just better anyway and team they play for is better than your kid or kids team? There’s a reason the A teams are dominated by the same few clubs.

And now even more kids added to the “watch list” what a joke.

A player from our town was added yesterday who was cut from the JV team. I wonder the criteria being used for these lists? At this point I don’t think it is accurate anymore. Should be much shorter.


To the point of AS and NYSR adding all of these 24 spots does the same this watch list is doing. Attracting eyeballs and $$ but not really helping keep the talent level where these events used to strive for.
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.
What are you referring to when you say UA ? Under Armour ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve never seen such a group of disgruntled parents, just because your kid did not make a team doesn’t mean you need to put the event or events down. If your paying attention to the obvious trends, more teams mean more money for the people running these events. It also means more teams, more exposure for your daughter. Yes, one team might be the clear A team, but there are also A players being held back because of politics, this gives more opportunity for other girls to get in front of colleges and get her chance. These events will always be dominated by clubs that run the events, by having a second team gives the top players from other clubs a chance to compete as well. I would think this is good for everyone. Many people stated the colleges know the top tier kids, this lets them see the second tier players.


Ever consider it isn’t politics and some kids are just better anyway and team they play for is better than your kid or kids team? There’s a reason the A teams are dominated by the same few clubs.

And now even more kids added to the “watch list” what a joke.

It’s all from the same club. Probably someone send in some names after the list went out. Not a big deal in my opinion since we already knew this list wasn’t legit. The club probably saw their kids weren’t represented and sent in some names to be added.

The clubs are listed on their?
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What are you referring to when you say UA ? Under Armour ?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

This is 100% false information. I was at AS and every HEAD coach from EVERY top school was there mostly until the last day. Then they left for UA which still had another day. These are the facts.
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

UA will be just fine. Every year people chirp about UA. Everyone hates the team their kid didn’t make. Be happy wherever your kid gets to play.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

They haven't had tryouts yet...how can they be on rosters already? What am I missing?
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You can’t say anything about this club because you’ll be attacked and they’ll blame everyone else. A word of advice not to mention them because their lassies are on here defending anything said. I said my kid left the team a few years ago and was accused of crazy stuff. Just wait, they’ll say something about you too
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

They haven't had tryouts yet...how can they be on rosters already? What am I missing?

I think they’re talking about 150
Anyone know if Under Armour 150 gives refunds? MY daughter made it and thought it may be legit but then we saw 5 more players from her team made it. Three of which really doesn't have the skill to be in an elite type of event. We were giving it the benefit of the doubt because as people have wrote previously, it could've been angry posters whose kid didn't make the team trashing it. Well it appears they were correct. It's a straight up money grab. Heck, the best player on the team was waitlisted and then made it after a week.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

They haven't had tryouts yet...how can they be on rosters already? What am I missing?

I think they’re talking about 150

No, this is about UA All America Underclass Games. AKA UA AA. Not UA 150. Two different operators that aren't the same.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

She's a 2024--we all know it's going to be harder for a 2024 to make the UA team, as the 2023 players will generally be better. She just made the safe move, that's all. I'd bet money she will go for UA next year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

They haven't had tryouts yet...how can they be on rosters already? What am I missing?

They have rosters still listed on website. I think they are still up from last year? No, they didn’t try out yet for this year. So, no rosters are out for AS for 2022 yet! That was girls from M&D last year. Who knows which one they will tryout for this year?
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

They haven't had tryouts yet...how can they be on rosters already? What am I missing?

I think they’re talking about 150

No, this is about UA All America Underclass Games. AKA UA AA. Not UA 150. Two different operators that aren't the same.

I think , The two comparisons are being made between the UA All American Games and American Selects. Both events will be going on at the same time this year. Wondering where the college coaches end up at?
Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?
I think , The two comparisons are being made between the UA All American Games and American Selects. Both events will be going on at the same time this year. Wondering where the college coaches end up at?[/quote]


They will go to both…just like they did last year
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days.

I think , The two comparisons are being made between the UA All American Games and American Selects. Both events will be going on at the same time this year. Wondering where the college coaches end up at?


The coaches will be at both just like last summer.
Sounds like the same person who comes on here every few weeks and bashes the same club. News flash ! Nobody cares, move on already.
Good thing you aren’t acting crazy by constantly posting about the same club over and over !
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Sounds like the same person who comes on here every few weeks and bashes the same club. News flash ! Nobody cares, move on already.

Yes it is. They may have gotten dumped but yes they should get over it already.
They are obsessed with it. Maybe we should introduce it to one of the internet dating websites so they find a new hobby?
I can’t believe this nonsense is still being discussed. Certain club owners are trying to make $$$ off pre-season all start camp and make it look look like a showcase and charge 4x the price. And there are like 12 of them ???
Are certain clubs who will profit still selling on here or are the people who paid trying to convince us or themselves they made s good decision?
There are better places to spend money during s recruiting year. Stay away if you can.
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Sounds like the same person who comes on here every few weeks and bashes the same club. News flash ! Nobody cares, move on already.

It’s hilarious someone predicted a 91 rep would keep trying to blame others . So predictable
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy

Enough with the list! The only ones that matter are the ones the college coaches are making from what they actually see. That’s the only list that matter. Train, work hard, do the leg work of getting the coaches to take notice by contacting them and sending highlights. Target showcases they will be at and their prospect camps. Then, hopefully, you make it on to their watchlist and they actually come watch you play this summer. The coaches will be out there watching all Summer. Even if they didn’t come to watch you, they will take notice if you are a good player. Forget the local list and local politics. Stay focused on the big picture.
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy

Enough with the list! The only ones that matter are the ones the college coaches are making from what they actually see. That’s the only list that matter. Train, work hard, do the leg work of getting the coaches to take notice by contacting them and sending highlights. Target showcases they will be at and their prospect camps. Then, hopefully, you make it on to their watchlist and they actually come watch you play this summer. The coaches will be out there watching all Summer. Even if they didn’t come to watch you, they will take notice if you are a good player. Forget the local list and local politics. Stay focused on the big picture.

Best post yet!! ^
Your the same poster over and over , we get it ! You had a falling out with the club. Move on ! Seriously, nobody cares about you and 91. Hopefully your daughter is in a better situation now.
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Your the same poster over and over , we get it ! You had a falling out with the club. Move on ! Seriously, nobody cares about you and 91. Hopefully your daughter is in a better situation now.
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy

Enough with the list! The only ones that matter are the ones the college coaches are making from what they actually see. That’s the only list that matter. Train, work hard, do the leg work of getting the coaches to take notice by contacting them and sending highlights. Target showcases they will be at and their prospect camps. Then, hopefully, you make it on to their watchlist and they actually come watch you play this summer. The coaches will be out there watching all Summer. Even if they didn’t come to watch you, they will take notice if you are a good player. Forget the local list and local politics. Stay focused on the big picture.

Best post yet!! ^


These lists DO matter. If we are using these showcase teams, lists, and more for colleges to help determine top players and to determine where our kid lands we don’t want it “watered down” as another poster said. It does my kid no good when a few weeks after a watchlist goes out 15 kids are added some of whom got CUT from JV. With these events becoming weaker , adding 3 teams to an “elite” event, it just becomes unfair to the girls who are stronger players and deserve the looks
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

She's a 2024--we all know it's going to be harder for a 2024 to make the UA team, as the 2023 players will generally be better. She just made the safe move, that's all. I'd bet money she will go for UA next year.
The NC coaches kid who plays for M&D Black 2024 went to American Select last Year. Last year would have been much easier for a 2024 to make UA since the team was 24/25. So you have your facts mixed up. AS will have way more of the top talent again this year as well.
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

She's a 2024--we all know it's going to be harder for a 2024 to make the UA team, as the 2023 players will generally be better. She just made the safe move, that's all. I'd bet money she will go for UA next year.
The NC coaches kid who plays for M&D Black 2024 went to American Select last Year. Last year would have been much easier for a 2024 to make UA since the team was 24/25. So you have your facts mixed up. AS will have way more of the top talent again this year as well.
Plus all the top 24's from Long Island were at American Select last year and will be attending again this year.
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Your the same poster over and over , we get it ! You had a falling out with the club. Move on ! Seriously, nobody cares about you and 91. Hopefully your daughter is in a better situation now.
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy

Enough with the list! The only ones that matter are the ones the college coaches are making from what they actually see. That’s the only list that matter. Train, work hard, do the leg work of getting the coaches to take notice by contacting them and sending highlights. Target showcases they will be at and their prospect camps. Then, hopefully, you make it on to their watchlist and they actually come watch you play this summer. The coaches will be out there watching all Summer. Even if they didn’t come to watch you, they will take notice if you are a good player. Forget the local list and local politics. Stay focused on the big picture.

Best post yet!! ^


These lists DO matter. If we are using these showcase teams, lists, and more for colleges to help determine top players and to determine where our kid lands we don’t want it “watered down” as another poster said. It does my kid no good when a few weeks after a watchlist goes out 15 kids are added some of whom got CUT from JV. With these events becoming weaker , adding 3 teams to an “elite” event, it just becomes unfair to the girls who are stronger players and deserve the looks

Relax. If your kid is as good as you think she is then more competition shouldn't bother you.
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Your the same poster over and over , we get it ! You had a falling out with the club. Move on ! Seriously, nobody cares about you and 91. Hopefully your daughter is in a better situation now.
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Lots of JV and B kids added to the LILJ watch list three weeks after it was published. I guess mommy and Daddy were upset and fired off a angry email to LILJ. What exactly are we watching if your on JV ?

No one is watching those kids. If those parents think that their kids are top talent they will be very upset come junior year. Seems like we are back to everyone gets a trophy

Enough with the list! The only ones that matter are the ones the college coaches are making from what they actually see. That’s the only list that matter. Train, work hard, do the leg work of getting the coaches to take notice by contacting them and sending highlights. Target showcases they will be at and their prospect camps. Then, hopefully, you make it on to their watchlist and they actually come watch you play this summer. The coaches will be out there watching all Summer. Even if they didn’t come to watch you, they will take notice if you are a good player. Forget the local list and local politics. Stay focused on the big picture.

Best post yet!! ^


These lists DO matter. If we are using these showcase teams, lists, and more for colleges to help determine top players and to determine where our kid lands we don’t want it “watered down” as another poster said. It does my kid no good when a few weeks after a watchlist goes out 15 kids are added some of whom got CUT from JV. With these events becoming weaker , adding 3 teams to an “elite” event, it just becomes unfair to the girls who are stronger players and deserve the looks

Relax. If your kid is as good as you think she is then more competition shouldn't bother you.

It isn’t good competition though. Why spend the money for weak competition?
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Your the same poster over and over , we get it ! You had a falling out with the club. Move on ! Seriously, nobody cares about you and 91. Hopefully your daughter is in a better situation now.

Ex team manager? , ex Coach?? , ex secretary? ex parent? Or Ex recruiter?
Or maybe all of the above?
What ever you are.. please move on. We will all say a prayer but you but you have to move on. It’s only youth sports, it’s not the end of the world! Or maybe it is?
On second thought….
I know a good therapist.
The list is a joke now. Kids being added three weeks after the list came out. Majority of those kids played JV and can’t crack the starting lineup on the club team. Mommy and daddy always get their way. Fortunately colleges know who can play, these other kids are just making fools of themselves and of their parents. It’s a slap in the face to the deserving kids, they know who’s legit and who are not.
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The list is a joke now. Kids being added three weeks after the list came out. Majority of those kids played JV and can’t crack the starting lineup on the club team. Mommy and daddy always get their way. Fortunately colleges know who can play, these other kids are just making fools of themselves and of their parents. It’s a slap in the face to the deserving kids, they know who’s legit and who are not.

Nobody cares about the fake news “list”. Season starts next week. We will soon see who is on the real list. People need to calm down about thinks that mean nothing
Agree, whoever the disgruntled ex 91 person is , please move on. Nobody wants to hear it. Better topics to discuss.
I’m not sure the NC coaches kid is a good gauge, I would think she’s comped to attend since her mother is also getting paid to attend.
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I’m not sure the NC coaches kid is a good gauge, I would think she’s comped to attend since her mother is also getting paid to attend.

How is her mother getting paid to attend? Do college coaches get paid to come to a recruiting showcase? I think they are there recruiting, not getting paid!? How do you know she’s getting paid? Do they get paid to attend UA as well?
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Agree, whoever the disgruntled ex 91 person is , please move on. Nobody wants to hear it. Better topics to discuss.

Just want to mention there are ex bandits parents (now 91) who openly share their displeasure with that association on sidelines. So don’t be so sold on it being a scorned 91 parent all the time. There are a few bandits parents who really don’t have great intentions for their old coaches who are now 91
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Last year at UA the head coaches were there all days. The asst coaches were at AS. On the sideline of my daughter’s 22/23 games were: Amanda O’Leary, Julie Myers, Kayla Treanor, acacia Walker, Shelly Bawcolmb, Carolina Phil Barnes, Cathy Reese, Tim Mcarthy, Erica Bamford and I can keep going. It was star studded if that’s what you’re into. Say what you want about the future of UA. But it’s still tried and true. And it’s free. And it’s exclusive to 1 team only. Open your eyes.

That was exactly my point earlier. They were all there, UA isn't dying anytime soon.

Maybe for the older division last year, not for the younger division. That’s because the older girls who were already cemented in the UA teams from earlier years of playing. Tides are turning towards the AS event now. UNC coach daughter and some top M&D players I see are on AS rosters already. Talking about recruiting age this year. What event will attract the top college coaches? UA or AS?

She's a 2024--we all know it's going to be harder for a 2024 to make the UA team, as the 2023 players will generally be better. She just made the safe move, that's all. I'd bet money she will go for UA next year.
The NC coaches kid who plays for M&D Black 2024 went to American Select last Year. Last year would have been much easier for a 2024 to make UA since the team was 24/25. So you have your facts mixed up. AS will have way more of the top talent again this year as well.
Plus all the top 24's from Long Island were at American Select last year and will be attending again this year.

Both can be good. The 23 age group will be weak as they play ua to get to senior all star game. Lots of top teams kids in Maryland skipping as because of the $700 price tag and needing some time off after a long summer of recruiting tournies and camps.
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Agree, whoever the disgruntled ex 91 person is , please move on. Nobody wants to hear it. Better topics to discuss.

Just want to mention there are ex bandits parents (now 91) who openly share their displeasure with that association on sidelines. So don’t be so sold on it being a scorned 91 parent all the time. There are a few bandits parents who really don’t have great intentions for their old coaches who are now 91

Sounds like a smoke screen. We don’t care who it is… ex parent, ex coach, ex director??
It’s the same BS lame trend. Move on already.
Of course they get paid !! They all get paid to attend these events.
Same ex 91 parent posting again!! It’s so obvious, please leave
Anyone attend NYSR last year ? What was the college coach attendance like ? I’m assuming not much but still curious.
Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.
Everyone has issues with travel clubs, politics, playing time, positions, not seeing eye to eye with coaches and so on. Coming on here over and over anonymously solves nothing. Try moving on and letting whatever your gripe is go !! There are much better ways to productively spend your time.
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

And we’ve also left because of them
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

Exactly! Lots of happy kids and happy parents in 91. And isn’t that really what matters?
Nassau NYSR tryouts seemed much more fair than what was described at suffolk. Coaches were trying to make sure groups has a mix from each travel team, it was live streamed and streaming to a local restaurant, and my daughter (while not on one of the big name teams) was offered some tips throughout the tryout to help her improve. Not sure why there were so many complaints after the Suffolk tryouts but as a parent who stayed and watched the tryout for two different age groups last night I was impressed.
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Everyone has issues with travel clubs, politics, playing time, positions, not seeing eye to eye with coaches and so on. Coming on here over and over anonymously solves nothing. Try moving on and letting whatever your gripe is go !! There are much better ways to productively spend your time.

I don’t think it’s a parent.
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

Exactly! Lots of happy kids and parents on 2024 team 91. And isn’t that really all that matters.
What what the experience like for every with NYSR tryouts ? When do Nassau kids find out if they made it?
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

Exactly! Lots of happy kids and parents on 2024 team 91. And isn’t that really all that matters.

Thank god you are fixing the problems from last year. It was tough to watch your sideline when we played you.
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?
Quite a few kids didn’t make it, but they did make two teams. 75 kids , two teams of 18 each. Coaches are YJ and Legacy.
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I’m not sure the NC coaches kid is a good gauge, I would think she’s comped to attend since her mother is also getting paid to attend.

How is her mother getting paid to attend? Do college coaches get paid to come to a recruiting showcase? I think they are there recruiting, not getting paid!? How do you know she’s getting paid? Do they get paid to attend UA as well?

What do you think your $600 pays for, the field and a pinny?
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?

I know Curcio is the 2024 Only (A team) coach
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!

I know someone just posted the same about Suffolk but who are Nassau 24 coaches ?
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Quite a few kids didn’t make it, but they did make two teams. 75 kids , two teams of 18 each. Coaches are YJ and Legacy.

Teams are bigger than 18. From my bc punting 22
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!

I know someone just posted the same about Suffolk but who are Nassau 24 coaches ?

Breves and Tilts not sure whose A and whose B
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

They took almost all the kids who tried out to either the A or B teams. That being said most kids should be happy!

I believe Nassau come out tomorrow!

I know someone just posted the same about Suffolk but who are Nassau 24 coaches ?

Tilts and Brevas
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I’m not sure the NC coaches kid is a good gauge, I would think she’s comped to attend since her mother is also getting paid to attend.

How is her mother getting paid to attend? Do college coaches get paid to come to a recruiting showcase? I think they are there recruiting, not getting paid!? How do you know she’s getting paid? Do they get paid to attend UA as well?

What do you think your $600 pays for, the field and a pinny?
Another example of top players choosing AS over UA is Team 180 from Colorado. They have a couple of the top players in the country on that team. One who also plays M&D Black is some tournaments. Pretty sure they are coming back to AS. All the top Long Island 24's are doing American Select again as well.
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?

I know Curcio is the 2024 Only (A team) coach

I think the other team 23/24 is a legacy guy
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?

I know Curcio is the 2024 Only (A team) coach

I think the other team 23/24 is a legacy guy

I thought it was Volpe for 23/24 team for suffolk?
Tilts is going to be the NYSR Nassau County Coach?
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Tilts is going to be the NYSR Nassau County Coach?

At least according to the website, Tilts is coaching the team that will play in the 23 division (a combo 23/24 I assume team as there weren't very many 23s at tryout)

Breves is the coach for the team in the 24 division
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Tilts is going to be the NYSR Nassau County Coach?

At least according to the website, Tilts is coaching the team that will play in the 23 division (a combo 23/24 I assume team as there weren't very many 23s at tryout)

Breves is the coach for the team in the 24 division

I don’t think the website is up to date. The Suffolk team still says Volpe but we were told by a friend she was moved to Nassau. We’re happy that Tilts and Breves will be coaching our daughter if she makes a team. Either team is a good option and either coach we are happy with. We’ve met them both and have enjoyed our experiences with them. At tryouts the girls all seemed to know them both by name and said hello to them in passing. At the end they both introduced themselves.
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?

I know Curcio is the 2024 Only (A team) coach

Is that why most of that 24 team is YJ?
It is great these girls will be exposed to playing with new coaches and new players they may not have worked with before. It will make them better in the end. We haven't played with the suffolk coaches but are looking forward to it!
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I thought the Suffolk tryouts were fine, my daughter enjoyed her experience and was excited to make the team. There wasn’t much coaching involved, more small field 7v7 and full field play. We don’t play for the “ Big Club” and felt tryouts were fair considering which kids made the team.

Who are the 24 coaches for Suffolk?

I know Curcio is the 2024 Only (A team) coach

Is that why most of that 24 team is YJ?

I'm sure you will find that most of the suffolk NYSR team is YJ, Legacy, and 91 as they primarily attract suffolk kids. Suffolk players mostly play for those three clubs, so you'd assume the suffolk team would mostly be those kids. The nassau NYSR kids will probably be more of a mix of FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters, YJ, but very few legacy kids. I don't think it was favoritism by the coaches. There were numerous people evaluating so it was probably fair.
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

Exactly! Lots of happy kids and parents on 2024 team 91. And isn’t that really all that matters.

Thank god you are fixing the problems from last year. It was tough to watch your sideline when we played you.

Team was toxic. Sometimes it’s just removing one bad egg and that’s what we believe happened. Now we have a new director and head coach and things are much better.
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Are you serious with this comment? The coaches are amazing. People have stayed because of them.

Exactly! Lots of happy kids and parents on 2024 team 91. And isn’t that really all that matters.

Thank god you are fixing the problems from last year. It was tough to watch your sideline when we played you.

Team was toxic. Sometimes it’s just removing one bad egg and that’s what we believe happened. Now we have a new director and head coach and things are much better.

We were on the team before and are still on the team and this is inaccurate. While the team this year is doing well, this statement is outrageous. Our team was extremely close and happy last year. There was not a single complaint about other players or the coaching staff. Both of our coaches last year were phenomenal despite one leaving mid-year for health reasons. Coaches this year are also doing the best they can with what is given to them. While I don't appreciate what our ex teammates are saying about our team now, anyone on the team last year knows what a special experience it isn't fair to that group of girls and what they had to talk poorly about something you were not a part of.
On Saturday night they said the invites would go out today. Fingers crossed it's soon! The suspense is killing our family!
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
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How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...


Coaches tell us usually or we see it on social media
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How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...


Coaches tell us usually or we see it on social media

What accounts do you need to be following?
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?


How was Ua chosen? Not a single player on our team made it.

Very subjective. Application process which should include recs from your daughter's coaches. Also can submit video. 6 from our team made it. 2 were waitlisted, then got in. One of the waitlisted was the best on the team. Not sure how she didn't make it immediately. 2 girls that made it really shouldn't be going, but I guess I'll have to see how the rest of the talent is there once the combine starts.
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How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.
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What about UA150, there’s a cost for this as well, is it worth it?


How was Ua chosen? Not a single player on our team made it.

Very subjective. Application process which should include recs from your daughter's coaches. Also can submit video. 6 from our team made it. 2 were waitlisted, then got in. One of the waitlisted was the best on the team. Not sure how she didn't make it immediately. 2 girls that made it really shouldn't be going, but I guess I'll have to see how the rest of the talent is there once the combine starts.

We had 3 make it. All three are very good players. A few waitlisted that I thought should have been selected. Some clubs had none, so I guess count your club lucky if they had any this year.
Totally
A lot of YJ girls accepted to Nassau navy as well
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How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices

This is a great idea! Kudos to these two programs!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices

The Jesters rule !!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices

Great idea from these clubs.
3 teams for each age group at American select. What a money grab for CR !
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices

The Jesters rule !!!

Have to love the excited lax dad
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3 teams for each age group at American select. What a money grab for CR !

Maybe a nice retirement home coming her way
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are you all finding things to send your kids to? We didn't even know NYSR was a thing...
My daughter's coaches (91) post the information on a Google Classroom they made for the kids and parents and they send out information about showcases, prospect days and select team tryouts on a regular basis.

Our jesters team does it this way as well. Google classroom organized by dates of events or application/tryout dates and then teamsnap is used for tournaments and practices

This is a great idea! Kudos to these two programs!

I agree ! 2 clubs that are very similar in rankings, recruiting and players are now sharing credit for an idea on BOTC.
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray
No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.
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No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.

At the tryuts they lax journal said they already have coaches registered.
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No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.

At the tryuts they lax journal said they already have coaches registered.

I would imagine college coaches would want to go to that.? New York is known for good lacrosse players and being there are 500+ colleges fielding lacrosse teams, that would be a good place to go check out some good players for their teams! I think you will see a lot of different college coaches there, this year. They should post some that are attending , if they are?
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Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.

At the tryuts they lax journal said they already have coaches registered.

I would imagine college coaches would want to go to that.? New York is known for good lacrosse players and being there are 500+ colleges fielding lacrosse teams, that would be a good place to go check out some good players for their teams! I think you will see a lot of different college coaches there, this year. They should post some that are attending , if they are?

They’re not going. They have a plethora of summer events which feature the girls they’re interested in. LI is a minor part of that. Look at the college rosters and open your eyes!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.

At the tryuts they lax journal said they already have coaches registered.

I would imagine college coaches would want to go to that.? New York is known for good lacrosse players and being there are 500+ colleges fielding lacrosse teams, that would be a good place to go check out some good players for their teams! I think you will see a lot of different college coaches there, this year. They should post some that are attending , if they are?

They’re not going. They have a plethora of summer events which feature the girls they’re interested in. LI is a minor part of that. Look at the college rosters and open your eyes!

Just to be invited is an honor. Trust me, feeling a little disgruntled? Have a Snickers ...you seem angry.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No college coaches in attendance last year. Competitive games for Nassau and Suffolk, fun for the girls to all see and play each other but otherwise nothing to write home about. Spread over three days.

At the tryuts they lax journal said they already have coaches registered.

I would imagine college coaches would want to go to that.? New York is known for good lacrosse players and being there are 500+ colleges fielding lacrosse teams, that would be a good place to go check out some good players for their teams! I think you will see a lot of different college coaches there, this year. They should post some that are attending , if they are?

They’re not going. They have a plethora of summer events which feature the girls they’re interested in. LI is a minor part of that. Look at the college rosters and open your eyes!

Wow, someone is glass half empty today! Not just talking top 20 D1 colleges here. There are plenty of other colleges who are in need of lacrosse players. With over 500 colleges with teams and 20,000+ players playing in college now. They are always looking for girls! New York is def. Still considered “one” of the top states for girls lacrosse. I’m sure they are looking at NY girls to fill roster spots. They would be smart to attend the NYSR event! Not everyone looking for the top 20 player either. Get over yourself and off your high horse! Good luck to “ALL” the girls in finding a place to play in college.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
If you make the top team of American Select you are probable a top recruit. That team is stacked!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
If you make the top team of American Select you are probable a top recruit. That team is stacked!

Is there going to be a 2023 American Select team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
If you make the top team of American Select you are probable a top recruit. That team is stacked!

Is there going to be a 2023 American Select team?

Doubt it. Better girls will do UA if anything. And as far as being a top recruit if you made the black team. Not true. There will probably be about 5 top recruits on that team. Look at last years team. Only a few girls went to top (20) programs. But don’t take my word for it…you will see I’m right next fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
If you make the top team of American Select you are probable a top recruit. That team is stacked!

Is there going to be a 2023 American Select team?

Doubt it. Better girls will do UA if anything. And as far as being a top recruit if you made the black team. Not true. There will probably be about 5 top recruits on that team. Look at last years team. Only a few girls went to top (20) programs. But don’t take my word for it…you will see I’m right next fall.
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.
NYSR is for fun only. Went last year and my daughter had a blast. But no real coaches to be seen. Maybe if you are looking to go to Albany you might get lucky if they walk over.
If you make the top team of American Select you are probable a top recruit. That team is stacked!

Is there going to be a 2023 American Select team?

Doubt it. Better girls will do UA if anything. And as far as being a top recruit if you made the black team. Not true. There will probably be about 5 top recruits on that team. Look at last years team. Only a few girls went to top (20) programs. But don’t take my word for it…you will see I’m right next fall.

Top 24 LI recruits have already accepted spots on AS, so don’t doubt it anymore. Rosters are out. People pretty much know who they are by this age. I agree the 25s is up in the air still and jury is out. I think 25 Spalina girls will do UA and take that team over. Prob. even have one of their team coaches coach UA to boot! Unfortunately, the politics of that is why AS was created to go up against it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun

There are some top kids attending this event on the top teams, on the grey team not so much. It seems like you have something against these kids success?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.

You are right other poster is way off
The bashing is just old and notIntelligent. It seems that if you aren’t in the top 24 ( AS Black ) you are through. It’s over. D3 bench player if it all goes right.
You’re mistaken in that there’s Stanford x2 and USBx4 when ( Red Team included ) plus Brown UMass Marist Lafayette Merrimack Pace Cortland x2 Florida Southern SHU Penn High Point and I think a few more D3’s weren’t posted. I counted from last years website it looks like 34 of 40 are committed which is very solid. Yes maybe only 1/2 Top 20 but who cares? Plenty other very solid D1 schools on list and a good D2 and some nice D3’s. If all you’re worried about is a Top20 than you don’t need to do any of these as she must be a top 50 player in America today. Congrats. Not all of the 100+ LI commits from 2023 were top 50 as that math doesn’t work. Just my opinion but I’d go even if I made Red
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like you and your club director have different ideas of best players on your team.

Events like under amour, american select, NYSR, etc are an honor if youre making the first team. So the top AS team, NYSR Navy, UA150, Underarmour spotlight vs command, etc. Being selected to a 2-4th team is not as great. Its the same concept as being a clubs A team versus B or C team.


I bet you and your daughter have a great relationship
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.

You are right other poster is way off
The bashing is just old and notIntelligent. It seems that if you aren’t in the top 24 ( AS Black ) you are through. It’s over. D3 bench player if it all goes right.
You’re mistaken in that there’s Stanford x2 and USBx4 when ( Red Team included ) plus Brown UMass Marist Lafayette Merrimack Pace Cortland x2 Florida Southern SHU Penn High Point and I think a few more D3’s weren’t posted. I counted from last years website it looks like 34 of 40 are committed which is very solid. Yes maybe only 1/2 Top 20 but who cares? Plenty other very solid D1 schools on list and a good D2 and some nice D3’s. If all you’re worried about is a Top20 than you don’t need to do any of these as she must be a top 50 player in America today. Congrats. Not all of the 100+ LI commits from 2023 were top 50 as that math doesn’t work. Just my opinion but I’d go even if I made Red

Wow! How many white claws did you drink? Ramble much?
Top 24 LI recruits have already accepted spots on AS, so don’t doubt it anymore. Rosters are out. People pretty much know who they are by this age. I agree the 25s is up in the air still and jury is out. I think 25 Spalina girls will do UA and take that team over. Prob. even have one of their team coaches coach UA to boot! Unfortunately, the politics of that is why AS was created to go up against it.


Yes and we all know that AS had no politics involved this year. Zero. None.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun

There are some top kids attending this event on the top teams, on the grey team not so much. It seems like you have something against these kids success?

Why do you have to bash ANY team. You do realize that if a girl doesnt make a top 20 D 1 school she will live to tell the tale. Get a grip dude
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.

You are right other poster is way off
The bashing is just old and notIntelligent. It seems that if you aren’t in the top 24 ( AS Black ) you are through. It’s over. D3 bench player if it all goes right.
You’re mistaken in that there’s Stanford x2 and USBx4 when ( Red Team included ) plus Brown UMass Marist Lafayette Merrimack Pace Cortland x2 Florida Southern SHU Penn High Point and I think a few more D3’s weren’t posted. I counted from last years website it looks like 34 of 40 are committed which is very solid. Yes maybe only 1/2 Top 20 but who cares? Plenty other very solid D1 schools on list and a good D2 and some nice D3’s. If all you’re worried about is a Top20 than you don’t need to do any of these as she must be a top 50 player in America today. Congrats. Not all of the 100+ LI commits from 2023 were top 50 as that math doesn’t work. Just my opinion but I’d go even if I made Red

Ok, so 10 of the 24 players committed to top academic or lacrosse schools. What happened to the rest? Will be the same this year. Last years team was actually strong. Lost in semis by 1. Wonder if this years team will have similar stats?
Everyone seems to just like taking shots at these kids with subtle little jabs “ there is talent on this team, but not on this team” “ nobody pays attention to these events “ we all get it , either your kid didn’t make it , or you didn’t get the team you wanted. This event is not UA or AS , and we all know this. Most of these kids want to rep their region and play a nice tournament and maybe grab a medal. Everyone needs to relax, try and remember you are the adult ! And bashing young 15/16 year old girls . Try to get a grip and think before you type and hit send. Considering this is an anonymous site , everyone seems to be critic and know it all. If I only had a dollar for every time I heard a poster claim “ I’ve been through this with my older child, so I know what I’m talking about” please just relax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

I’m happy if this makes everyone feel good but come on.
Another event that costs money. Event$ hotel$ food$ Gas$ and toals$?
God bless the families who have the money to do all of this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone seems to just like taking shots at these kids with subtle little jabs “ there is talent on this team, but not on this team” “ nobody pays attention to these events “ we all get it , either your kid didn’t make it , or you didn’t get the team you wanted. This event is not UA or AS , and we all know this. Most of these kids want to rep their region and play a nice tournament and maybe grab a medal. Everyone needs to relax, try and remember you are the adult ! And bashing young 15/16 year old girls . Try to get a grip and think before you type and hit send. Considering this is an anonymous site , everyone seems to be critic and know it all. If I only had a dollar for every time I heard a poster claim “ I’ve been through this with my older child, so I know what I’m talking about” please just relax.

Best post in a long time!!

I've been following this thread for a while and one thing has become clear... There are so many crazy people on here!

Chances are most of you know very little about:

- clubs other than your daughter's
- Events/tournaments kids may play at
- Club and School coaches (their resume, what they've accomplished as coaches, experience, etc.) in many cases, most of the good ones don't feel the need to market themselves to outsiders
- the game in general

How about this:

If your daughter loves the sport and her teammates and her coach, that's probably all that matters. If your daughter has made friends and has learned life experiences through this game, that's really great too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone seems to just like taking shots at these kids with subtle little jabs “ there is talent on this team, but not on this team” “ nobody pays attention to these events “ we all get it , either your kid didn’t make it , or you didn’t get the team you wanted. This event is not UA or AS , and we all know this. Most of these kids want to rep their region and play a nice tournament and maybe grab a medal. Everyone needs to relax, try and remember you are the adult ! And bashing young 15/16 year old girls . Try to get a grip and think before you type and hit send. Considering this is an anonymous site , everyone seems to be critic and know it all. If I only had a dollar for every time I heard a poster claim “ I’ve been through this with my older child, so I know what I’m talking about” please just relax.

Best post in a long time!!

I've been following this thread for a while and one thing has become clear... There are so many crazy people on here!

Chances are most of you know very little about:

- clubs other than your daughter's
- Events/tournaments kids may play at
- Club and School coaches (their resume, what they've accomplished as coaches, experience, etc.) in many cases, most of the good ones don't feel the need to market themselves to outsiders
- the game in general

How about this:

If your daughter loves the sport and her teammates and her coach, that's probably all that matters. If your daughter has made friends and has learned life experiences through this game, that's really great too.

Btw….all these posts are not anonymous. IP addresses identify everyone!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone seems to just like taking shots at these kids with subtle little jabs “ there is talent on this team, but not on this team” “ nobody pays attention to these events “ we all get it , either your kid didn’t make it , or you didn’t get the team you wanted. This event is not UA or AS , and we all know this. Most of these kids want to rep their region and play a nice tournament and maybe grab a medal. Everyone needs to relax, try and remember you are the adult ! And bashing young 15/16 year old girls . Try to get a grip and think before you type and hit send. Considering this is an anonymous site , everyone seems to be critic and know it all. If I only had a dollar for every time I heard a poster claim “ I’ve been through this with my older child, so I know what I’m talking about” please just relax.

Best post in a long time!!

I've been following this thread for a while and one thing has become clear... There are so many crazy people on here!

Chances are most of you know very little about:

- clubs other than your daughter's
- Events/tournaments kids may play at
- Club and School coaches (their resume, what they've accomplished as coaches, experience, etc.) in many cases, most of the good ones don't feel the need to market themselves to outsiders
- the game in general

How about this:

If your daughter loves the sport and her teammates and her coach, that's probably all that matters. If your daughter has made friends and has learned life experiences through this game, that's really great too.

A lot of critique about people and kids you don’t even know. If you have met and individual I don’t know why you feel entitled to an opinion
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone seems to just like taking shots at these kids with subtle little jabs “ there is talent on this team, but not on this team” “ nobody pays attention to these events “ we all get it , either your kid didn’t make it , or you didn’t get the team you wanted. This event is not UA or AS , and we all know this. Most of these kids want to rep their region and play a nice tournament and maybe grab a medal. Everyone needs to relax, try and remember you are the adult ! And bashing young 15/16 year old girls . Try to get a grip and think before you type and hit send. Considering this is an anonymous site , everyone seems to be critic and know it all. If I only had a dollar for every time I heard a poster claim “ I’ve been through this with my older child, so I know what I’m talking about” please just relax.

Best post in a long time!!

I've been following this thread for a while and one thing has become clear... There are so many crazy people on here!

Chances are most of you know very little about:

- clubs other than your daughter's
- Events/tournaments kids may play at
- Club and School coaches (their resume, what they've accomplished as coaches, experience, etc.) in many cases, most of the good ones don't feel the need to market themselves to outsiders
- the game in general

How about this:

If your daughter loves the sport and her teammates and her coach, that's probably all that matters. If your daughter has made friends and has learned life experiences through this game, that's really great too.
Crazy is the nice word for it. Need to get rid of the anonymous function so then you can see who the clowns are. But I'm sure you can take a guess who they are. We have to put up with them on the sidelines every game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.

You are right other poster is way off
The bashing is just old and notIntelligent. It seems that if you aren’t in the top 24 ( AS Black ) you are through. It’s over. D3 bench player if it all goes right.
You’re mistaken in that there’s Stanford x2 and USBx4 when ( Red Team included ) plus Brown UMass Marist Lafayette Merrimack Pace Cortland x2 Florida Southern SHU Penn High Point and I think a few more D3’s weren’t posted. I counted from last years website it looks like 34 of 40 are committed which is very solid. Yes maybe only 1/2 Top 20 but who cares? Plenty other very solid D1 schools on list and a good D2 and some nice D3’s. If all you’re worried about is a Top20 than you don’t need to do any of these as she must be a top 50 player in America today. Congrats. Not all of the 100+ LI commits from 2023 were top 50 as that math doesn’t work. Just my opinion but I’d go even if I made Red

Ok, so 10 of the 24 players committed to top academic or lacrosse schools. What happened to the rest? Will be the same this year. Last years team was actually strong. Lost in semis by 1. Wonder if this years team will have similar stats?
Your response is " so 10 players committed to top schools" Please go away with your nonsense and negativity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 24 LI recruits have already accepted spots on AS, so don’t doubt it anymore. Rosters are out. People pretty much know who they are by this age. I agree the 25s is up in the air still and jury is out. I think 25 Spalina girls will do UA and take that team over. Prob. even have one of their team coaches coach UA to boot! Unfortunately, the politics of that is why AS was created to go up against it.


Yes and we all know that AS had no politics involved this year. Zero. None.

you don't think at least half of the girls with AS spots will show up at UA tryouts? Seriously.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crazy is the nice word for it. Need to get rid of the anonymous function so then you can see who the clowns are. But I'm sure you can take a guess who they are. We have to put up with them on the sidelines every game.

Says an "Anonymous" poster.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]
You obviously have no clue. If you follow the girls on Long Island you would know that the most of the top players were on the black team. There are a couple that shouldn’t be on it but the top 20 Long Island 2024s are on that black team this year. There is one girl that plays for top guns that’s not on the team. If you look at last year’s 2023 team which is not nearly as strong as this year’s 2024, you would conclude that there were many top players on that team. If you go through the roster you could see where they committed. Yale, Florida, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Notre Dame, Fordham, Virginia, Florida, Albany, Stony Brook, Stanford, duke, Villanova, navy, JMU, Stanford, Stonybrook. That’s just from last year’s black 2023 team that played at American Select.

You are right other poster is way off
The bashing is just old and notIntelligent. It seems that if you aren’t in the top 24 ( AS Black ) you are through. It’s over. D3 bench player if it all goes right.
You’re mistaken in that there’s Stanford x2 and USBx4 when ( Red Team included ) plus Brown UMass Marist Lafayette Merrimack Pace Cortland x2 Florida Southern SHU Penn High Point and I think a few more D3’s weren’t posted. I counted from last years website it looks like 34 of 40 are committed which is very solid. Yes maybe only 1/2 Top 20 but who cares? Plenty other very solid D1 schools on list and a good D2 and some nice D3’s. If all you’re worried about is a Top20 than you don’t need to do any of these as she must be a top 50 player in America today. Congrats. Not all of the 100+ LI commits from 2023 were top 50 as that math doesn’t work. Just my opinion but I’d go even if I made Red

Ok, so 10 of the 24 players committed to top academic or lacrosse schools. What happened to the rest? Will be the same this year. Last years team was actually strong. Lost in semis by 1. Wonder if this years team will have similar stats?
Your response is " so 10 players committed to top schools" Please go away with your nonsense and negativity.

When a "Team" markets itself as a "select team" and parents want to pound their chest and say that the team has selected the Top Players there will be criticism. The players on the 24 Black team are from two clubs, 19 Yellow Jackets and 4 Legacy, If you believe that they are the best 23 players on Long Island you are truly delusional. This is the most political team ever. Fewer than 10 of the 23 players will receive offers from top tier college programs. These "teams" and "Lists" fuel the fire of the delusional parents who actually believe the hype. When September 1st rolls around everybody will see just who the Top Players are. We will also hear all kinds of excuses on the sidelines from parents as to why their daughter is not receiving offers from Top 5, Top 10, and Top 20 programs. We will also hear these same parents knock some of the players who do receive offers and commit to the best programs (many of which are excellent schools). We will hear that's a real head scratcher, she will never see the field, her father is connected etc... It's all BS. The college coaches, especially the ones at the best programs do a very good job at identifying the best talent year in and year out and very few top notch players fall through the cracks. Be happy if your daughter make a team or is on a list but know that the college coaches do not care. The coaches watch the kids play and they go after the players that they believe to be the best.
Good Luck and enjoy the ride.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun

Same person over and over. Look at the coaches,
look at the players. Lol. Looking at the rosters, would put either team up against any ‘select’ team. UA/AS included. Nass edge. Guessing you have something against NYSR. Might want to get off of your high horse. Its actually sad. Nice IP
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun

Same person over and over. Look at the coaches,
look at the players. Lol. Looking at the rosters, would put either team up against any ‘select’ team. UA/AS included. Nass edge. Guessing you have something against NYSR. Might want to get off of your high horse. Its actually sad. Nice IP

NYSR has some phenomenal talent and coaches. Curcio is a great Highschool and club coach who brings a positive attitude and strong lax Iq to the scene: Breves coaches a JV team and works for a Nassau club. His daughter and his daughters teammates are on the team together I believe. Tilts is an educator and those who have worked with her or met her know she is one of the hardest working young coaches around. Volpe is a tough cookie who brings out next levels in her kids. If you check who made these teams, there are some high hitters. Is every top kid going? No. Some parents can’t afford it. Some are too busy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curcio 2024 Suffolk navy
? 2024/2023 Suffolk Gray
Tilts 2024 Nassau Navy
Brevas 2024/2023 Nassau Gray

WHO?!?!

I know Curcio but the other 2 don’t quite ring a bell

Sorry but this is not a priority based on what I’m reading. No substance. Why would college coaches want this?

This was a good event last year when nothing else was going on for 2024. Nassau vs Suffolk was fun for the girls.
Events like this don’t attract coaches in recruiting years for any number of reasons.
1: coaches don’t come unless they get paid.
2: coaches are super busy with all the other recruiting stuff.
3: look at the coaches and players who were picked for each side and realize that this is for fun only

Enjoy it and have fun

Same person over and over. Look at the coaches,
look at the players. Lol. Looking at the rosters, would put either team up against any ‘select’ team. UA/AS included. Nass edge. Guessing you have something against NYSR. Might want to get off of your high horse. Its actually sad. Nice IP

NYSR has some phenomenal talent and coaches. Curcio is a great Highschool and club coach who brings a positive attitude and strong lax Iq to the scene: Breves coaches a JV team and works for a Nassau club. His daughter and his daughters teammates are on the team together I believe. Tilts is an educator and those who have worked with her or met her know she is one of the hardest working young coaches around. Volpe is a tough cookie who brings out next levels in her kids. If you check who made these teams, there are some high hitters. Is every top kid going? No. Some parents can’t afford it. Some are too busy.

Thank you and well said!
OMG please stop.
Super sensitive and relentlessly self promoting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG please stop.
Super sensitive and relentlessly self promoting

OMG, you please stop. Nothing wrong with people happy to have their kids doing NYSR without people bashing it. To each their own. If you don’t have anything nice to say… leave. Good luck to the girls who made those NYSR teams and go have a great time and represent LI well. We did it last year and it’s It’s a great event! The kids had a blast and it was very well run.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG please stop.
Super sensitive and relentlessly self promoting

OMG, you please stop. Nothing wrong with people happy to have their kids doing NYSR without people bashing it. To each their own. If you don’t have anything nice to say… leave. Good luck to the girls who made those NYSR teams and go have a great time and represent LI well. We did it last year and it’s It’s a great event! The kids had a blast and it was very well run.


No one needs to promote these events. It’s the same situation we just saw on here with fcl ua juniors open and as. A few people who have nothing nice to say about the event. No one is sensitive about or promoting all of these events. Kids and families who are attending should be happy to have been selected. They deserve the positivity around being noticed for their skills, even if some of you think their skills are less than because of a color of their team.
Time to move on. This is just a battle of justification. Those who chose to to sign up for these show cases have to justify to themselves why they do it, and those who don't have to justify to themselves why they don't. Nobody is right or wrong, just do what you think is best for your family! If you turn on the news or read a newspaper you'd learn that you should be happy you have the opportunity to make your own choices. God bless America!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time to move on. This is just a battle of justification. Those who chose to to sign up for these show cases have to justify to themselves why they do it, and those who don't have to justify to themselves why they don't. Nobody is right or wrong, just do what you think is best for your family! If you turn on the news or read a newspaper you'd learn that you should be happy you have the opportunity to make your own choices. God bless America!

Agree, and it’s nice we do have freedom of speech. It’s also great to get feedback from others who have done events and their thoughts. However, every single player is different and has different level of playing and different goals. What’s right for some is not right for others. No need to bash the choices. Just be realistic as to what level of play and what the goal is for the player. Every single journey will be different. So, take that in account when listening to some of the crazy lacrosse parents on here. They have blinders on and most are delusional. Just make sure your daughter is happy where she’s at.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time to move on. This is just a battle of justification. Those who chose to to sign up for these show cases have to justify to themselves why they do it, and those who don't have to justify to themselves why they don't. Nobody is right or wrong, just do what you think is best for your family! If you turn on the news or read a newspaper you'd learn that you should be happy you have the opportunity to make your own choices. God bless America!

Best quote of the day — Cheers!
No bashing going on except for somebody trying to bully anyone saying that this event is anything less than awesome.
This site discusses pros and cons.
My opinion ,..Not a must attend event during a recruiting year and with all the other UA initiation events going on…
must be a dozen of them and most are a very expensive weekend. If you have the $$ and want to play some lax with your friends then go for it.

Freedom of Speech is Alive an Well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No bashing going on except for somebody trying to bully anyone saying that this event is anything less than awesome.
This site discusses pros and cons.
My opinion ,..Not a must attend event during a recruiting year and with all the other UA initiation events going on…
must be a dozen of them and most are a very expensive weekend. If you have the $$ and want to play some lax with your friends then go for it.

Freedom of Speech is Alive an Well.

It certainly is , thanks to our brave soldiers! “Freedom is not Free” . Could you imagine if there was an anonymous posters site in Russia right now! Putin bashing would be off the charts and he would be shutting it down due to his feelings getting hurt! Makes me thankful for BOTC , that we are free to be overly opinionated, ,say anything and too much most of the time! Thankful to be an American, God Bless America and May there be Glory to Ukraine and may “Freedom and Democracy” prevail over pure evil! I know this is a LAX site, but just saying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No bashing going on except for somebody trying to bully anyone saying that this event is anything less than awesome.
This site discusses pros and cons.
My opinion ,..Not a must attend event during a recruiting year and with all the other UA initiation events going on…
must be a dozen of them and most are a very expensive weekend. If you have the $$ and want to play some lax with your friends then go for it.

Freedom of Speech is Alive an Well.

It certainly is , thanks to our brave soldiers! “Freedom is not Free” . Could you imagine if there was an anonymous posters site in Russia right now! Putin bashing would be off the charts and he would be shutting it down due to his feelings getting hurt! Makes me thankful for BOTC , that we are free to be overly opinionated, ,say anything and too much most of the time! Thankful to be an American, God Bless America and May there be Glory to Ukraine and may “Freedom and Democracy” prevail over pure evil! I know this is a LAX site, but just saying.

uh what
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.

Lax for the cure , live love lax, g8. Avoid northern rise and NXT, not worth it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.

Presidents cup was sick this past fall even early
In 24 recruiting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.

Go to the camps that your daughter is most interested in and don’t hold back play aggressive! Do AS, or UA. Play well in the big tournaments like Lax for Cure. Have your club director speak with the schools your daughter is a realistic candidate for. Have a few good highlight reels on Sports Recruits. Do not get discouraged if your daughter has a bad game or day. Keep fighting and good things will happen! Anything else is a money grab and waste of money!
If you want high academics, we’re big fans of Lacrosse Masters.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.

Go to the camps that your daughter is most interested in and don’t hold back play aggressive! Do AS, or UA. Play well in the big tournaments like Lax for Cure. Have your club director speak with the schools your daughter is a realistic candidate for. Have a few good highlight reels on Sports Recruits. Do not get discouraged if your daughter has a bad game or day. Keep fighting and good things will happen! Anything else is a money grab and waste of money!

Showcasss like ua and as will definitely help as well as having a coach or club director who has easy access to communicating with coaches
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone with older kids who have been through the recruiting process, have thoughts on what recruiting showcases they felt were worth doing? As far as exposure to college coaches goes. Thanks.

Go to the camps that your daughter is most interested in and don’t hold back play aggressive! Do AS, or UA. Play well in the big tournaments like Lax for Cure. Have your club director speak with the schools your daughter is a realistic candidate for. Have a few good highlight reels on Sports Recruits. Do not get discouraged if your daughter has a bad game or day. Keep fighting and good things will happen! Anything else is a money grab and waste of money!

Showcasss like ua and as will definitely help as well as having a coach or club director who has easy access to communicating with coaches

Thank you! That’s what I was wondering about, the individual events outside the tournaments the teams already play. There seems to be so many individual showcases, I was curious to see what people thought, what was worth doing from their experiences. Thanks again. Time and money running short and it’s nice to get feedback from others who have been through this. Appreciate it. smile
And email often! Very important they see her interest and they will have her on their list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No bashing going on except for somebody trying to bully anyone saying that this event is anything less than awesome.
This site discusses pros and cons.
My opinion ,..Not a must attend event during a recruiting year and with all the other UA initiation events going on…
must be a dozen of them and most are a very expensive weekend. If you have the $$ and want to play some lax with your friends then go for it.

Freedom of Speech is Alive an Well.

Best post this week!!!
Keep it real
NJ had American Select tryouts yesterday. Comments from any that watched?
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NJ had American Select tryouts yesterday. Comments from any that watched?
No idea but the Rosters are out for Upstate NY. 17 out of 22 in the 2024 and 20 out of 22 in the 2025 from Monster. Wonder who is the affiliate club. Lol
I see most of the girls are from 2024 Monsters, that team is top 3 in the country. Salt City is a good club with some girls. Lake Effect has a great player, did she try-out? I guess the fix is in again, ugghhh. The best players have gone to the best clubs because they want to be seen at the best tournaments, it's that simple. People complain about all-star teams being mostly 1 or 2 clubs. They fail to look under the club name to see the girls are from all different high schools in that region. Typically girls come from all over the region to find the best competition at the top clubs. That American Select 2024 teams is made up of girls from 15 different high schools, sounds like a team made up from the entire region to me.
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NJ had American Select tryouts yesterday. Comments from any that watched?

Seems like the teams were made last year. Not going to dispute that they are solid teams of talented players, but they could easily fill another team of equal talent. What spots are really open for the other 100 girls trying out? The team coaches will insist on bringing maybe one of their players on. What does that leave? Maybe a goalie spot? Feels like the rosters are established. They could easily do fill two teams for New Jersey, but if a player didn't join during the inaugural year I don't see how they get a spot unless their club coach is one of the coaches selected to coach the team this year.
I see most of the girls are from 2024 Monsters, that team is top 3 in the country. Salt City is a good club with some girls. Lake Effect has a great player, did she try-out? I guess the fix is in again, ugghhh. The best players have gone to the best clubs because they want to be seen at the best tournaments, it's that simple. People complain about all-star teams being mostly 1 or 2 clubs. They fail to look under the club name to see the girls are from all different high schools in that region. Typically girls come from all over the region to find the best competition at the top clubs. That American Select 2024 teams is made up of girls from 15 different high schools, sounds like a team made up from the entire region to me.


Yeah, the 2024 is 3rd but the 2025 team is Ranked 11th. 20 kids minus a goalie and 1 field player are from Monster. I find it hard to believe there wasn't more kids there from other teams. Will be interesting to see Steps and Primetime's Roster. I mean NJ and Downstate. =)
No big deal So AS is YJ vs Primetime vs Monster vs Grizzlies vs M&D/Heroes etc etc.
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No big deal So AS is YJ vs Primetime vs Monster vs Grizzlies vs M&D/Heroes etc etc.

Does that mean AS seems to be attracting the top talent over the UA all American event? Has winds shifted?
not necessarily, it just a way for the directors of these specific clubs to get the maximum exposure for their own players.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
No big deal So AS is YJ vs Primetime vs Monster vs Grizzlies vs M&D/Heroes etc etc.

Does that mean AS seems to be attracting the top talent over the UA all American event? Has winds shifted?

No. That means it's the same as UA where whoever is doing the evaluating is taking their kids.
I just don't understand how the winds would be shifting when it's close to 10X the price that UA is, I just can't imagine spending that much for the same exact thing as UA AND all the same colleges attended both showcases. Still less people try out year after year because of politics of club affiliation, when AS has shown in their first two years that they are no better if not worse than UA?? I wonder how much STEPS and Top of the Bay are paying these top tier clubs to bring their girls to the tryouts instead of UA. Just seems a little slimy to me on AS part, especially when the purposefully have their main event the same weekend as UA, why cant they girls just play in both??
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I just don't understand how the winds would be shifting when it's close to 10X the price that UA is, I just can't imagine spending that much for the same exact thing as UA AND all the same colleges attended both showcases. Still less people try out year after year because of politics of club affiliation, when AS has shown in their first two years that they are no better if not worse than UA?? I wonder how much STEPS and Top of the Bay are paying these top tier clubs to bring their girls to the tryouts instead of UA. Just seems a little slimy to me on AS part, especially when the purposefully have their main event the same weekend as UA, why cant they girls just play in both??

It is laughable that they said they needed AS to get away from the favoritism clubs shown towards their players. My kid made the team, but it is certainly nepotism towards the bottom end of the roster.
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.
Or maybe, if they are already committed, then can take the weekend off and go to the beach.
Agreed. What’s the end game at this point? If already committed, why risk it? Now to the 23’s who have yet to commit, by all means should tryout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.

What makes AS better than UA though? They are essentially the same event, same exposure, same set up. Maybe I'm missing something but the biggest difference between the two is you somehow get less swag for AS when you pay more than triple the price. The best part about AS is that it is spilt up by grad year, so it makes sense that the 2024's tryout for AS when they have a way better shot at making it. I just don't get how an event exactly modeled after UA is so much better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.

What makes AS better than UA though? They are essentially the same event, same exposure, same set up. Maybe I'm missing something but the biggest difference between the two is you somehow get less swag for AS when you pay more than triple the price. The best part about AS is that it is spilt up by grad year, so it makes sense that the 2024's tryout for AS when they have a way better shot at making it. I just don't get how an event exactly modeled after UA is so much better.

I wouldn't think one is better than the other. Its just the coaches who are most likely getting paid sending there kids to one or the other. Whichever one they are affiliated with. If you look at the Florida and California roster, there are kids from multiple teams there, unlike our neck of the woods. CT and LI and Upstate are basically taking their entire teams. And yes, I know your response. Those teams have the best players. Right. The 17th kid taken from YJ is better than the 2nd best kid on Top Guns and Jesters. Right. Nothing to do with the coach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.

What makes AS better than UA though? They are essentially the same event, same exposure, same set up. Maybe I'm missing something but the biggest difference between the two is you somehow get less swag for AS when you pay more than triple the price. The best part about AS is that it is spilt up by grad year, so it makes sense that the 2024's tryout for AS when they have a way better shot at making it. I just don't get how an event exactly modeled after UA is so much better.

I wouldn't think one is better than the other. Its just the coaches who are most likely getting paid sending there kids to one or the other. Whichever one they are affiliated with. If you look at the Florida and California roster, there are kids from multiple teams there, unlike our neck of the woods. CT and LI and Upstate are basically taking their entire teams. And yes, I know your response. Those teams have the best players. Right. The 17th kid taken from YJ is better than the 2nd best kid on Top Guns and Jesters. Right. Nothing to do with the coach.


Wasn’t impressed with AS last year. Plenty of recruiting all summer and no need to play $700 this year. Some areas didn’t have 22 teams and my feeling is some will struggle with 23 group that is committed. Other than Conny , best 23 will be at UA.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.

What makes AS better than UA though? They are essentially the same event, same exposure, same set up. Maybe I'm missing something but the biggest difference between the two is you somehow get less swag for AS when you pay more than triple the price. The best part about AS is that it is spilt up by grad year, so it makes sense that the 2024's tryout for AS when they have a way better shot at making it. I just don't get how an event exactly modeled after UA is so much better.

I wouldn't think one is better than the other. Its just the coaches who are most likely getting paid sending there kids to one or the other. Whichever one they are affiliated with. If you look at the Florida and California roster, there are kids from multiple teams there, unlike our neck of the woods. CT and LI and Upstate are basically taking their entire teams. And yes, I know your response. Those teams have the best players. Right. The 17th kid taken from YJ is better than the 2nd best kid on Top Guns and Jesters. Right. Nothing to do with the coach.


Wasn’t impressed with AS last year. Plenty of recruiting all summer and no need to play $700 this year. Some areas didn’t have 22 teams and my feeling is some will struggle with 23 group that is committed. Other than Conny , best 23 will be at UA.

I would agree the 23's But the 24's and 25s I'm not so sure.
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The American Select vs Under Armour debate is completely different depending what year your daughter is.

2024 is a no brainer to go American Select to be with the top talent if your are willing to spend the money. Cost as much as a stay away camp with far better exposure. All the coaches are there to look at 2024 recruits for their team because all the teams are 2024's. The practices and games are top notch for 2024's this year. Just look at the American Select rosters posted so far, no debate they are 90% of the top girls in those regions if you are not pushing an agenda.

Under Armour will have a lot of the top 2023's, but each highlight team will only have 1-3 2024's that have to outshine 2023's to make the team. The rosters will be full of committed 2023's that don't need to worry about recruiting anymore. Pay the $150 tryout fee and get the cool swag! Coaches are there to look at their committed recruits, great if any 2024's can make an impression!

This will be the tournament of choice for many of the top 2024's next year that don't need to worry about recruiting.

I noticed that all the top Connecticut ‘23s are doing AS, not UA (roster out). Money not an concern for them, and it’s a better event. They are already committed to great schools, so I guess it’s just for fun playing great competition.

What makes AS better than UA though? They are essentially the same event, same exposure, same set up. Maybe I'm missing something but the biggest difference between the two is you somehow get less swag for AS when you pay more than triple the price. The best part about AS is that it is spilt up by grad year, so it makes sense that the 2024's tryout for AS when they have a way better shot at making it. I just don't get how an event exactly modeled after UA is so much better.

I wouldn't think one is better than the other. Its just the coaches who are most likely getting paid sending there kids to one or the other. Whichever one they are affiliated with. If you look at the Florida and California roster, there are kids from multiple teams there, unlike our neck of the woods. CT and LI and Upstate are basically taking their entire teams. And yes, I know your response. Those teams have the best players. Right. The 17th kid taken from YJ is better than the 2nd best kid on Top Guns and Jesters. Right. Nothing to do with the coach.


Wasn’t impressed with AS last year. Plenty of recruiting all summer and no need to play $700 this year. Some areas didn’t have 22 teams and my feeling is some will struggle with 23 group that is committed. Other than Conny , best 23 will be at UA.

I would agree the 23's But the 24's and 25s I'm not so sure.

It’s clear if you know who the girls are , the top 24s are on the AS rosters already. They will be at AS and I see plenty of the top 25s in our area also on the AS roster !
When do they post the UA 150 rosters ?
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When do they post the UA 150 rosters ?

Would like to know myself. We committed (paid for it) to it but I think this year may have been a mistake.
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When do they post the UA 150 rosters ?

Would like to know myself. We committed (paid for it) to it but I think this year may have been a mistake.

Not until the end of the spring.
They are still doing the waves.
They will post all the teams rosters on their site at some point
The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

What a bunch of BS. The roster for the 2024 top team has 23 players 17 Yellow Jackets and 6 Legacy, this is the most political selection process ever. Also, Stop with "30" top middies from YJ, maybe they have 3 or 4 top tier middies (if that). You are correct about one thing though, there are great players everywhere, not just on the two clubs that the team was selected from.

Your statement "The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams." is laughable, it is rare for a good player to not make the clubs top team. We will all see come September who the top talent is, the college coaches from the top college programs will tell us who the top players are. There will not be 23 players from AS 2024 roster heading to Top College Programs, probably less than half will see an offer from a Top college program. Several parents are going to be in for a bit of a surprise when the the recruiting process starts.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

YJ C may have diamond in the rough, but deep with talent is a stretch in my opinion.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

You are delusional.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

You are delusional.

Yes, they are delusional. AS biggest money / control / power grab to date.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

You are delusional.

Yes, they are delusional. AS biggest money / control / power grab to date.

That could be? However, 2024s, for the most part and recruiting purposes are the ones being looked at this summer by the top LAX schools. I think They know the best 24 talent will be at AS this year and will head there for recruiting? With that said, how many girls are actually getting recruited by top schools? That’s where the delusion comes in.

There is plenty of great opportunity out there for all the girls. Just don’t get stunk in to the big hyped up stuff. Focus in strategically on the smaller individualized stuff. Try to be realistic about your daughters level of play and where she will be happy. The top 10 LAX schools are not the be all, end all. There are 500+ Colleges that offer women’s lacrosse!!! More importantly, Go for the Academics and atmosphere! Hopefully playing lacrosse has opened many doors! Good luck to all the girls!
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

You are delusional.

Yes, they are delusional. AS biggest money / control / power grab to date.

That could be? However, 2024s, for the most part and recruiting purposes are the ones being looked at this summer by the top LAX schools. I think They know the best 24 talent will be at AS this year and will head there for recruiting? With that said, how many girls are actually getting recruited by top schools? That’s where the delusion comes in.

There is plenty of great opportunity out there for all the girls. Just don’t get stunk in to the big hyped up stuff. Focus in strategically on the smaller individualized stuff. Try to be realistic about your daughters level of play and where she will be happy. The top 10 LAX schools are not the be all, end all. There are 500+ Colleges that offer women’s lacrosse!!! More importantly, Go for the Academics and atmosphere! Hopefully playing lacrosse has opened many doors! Good luck to all the girls!

Best 24 talents at AS? maybe yes, maybe no. Every 24 i know who made AS will also be attending UA tryouts and dont think anyone would turn down a spot.
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The 17th best YJ girl is not better than the 2nd best Jester girl sounds valid if you have never assembled a lacrosse roster. A typical American Select roster is 2 goalies, 6 defense, 9 middies and 5 attack. Most all club teams top 4-5 players are always middies. So the top few Jester girls are competing for 9 spots with the 30 top middies on the 3 YJ teams, not the worst few girls on the YJ roster. Are they good enough, depends on the talent. The same is true for the other positions. The historically top clubs are often very deep with talent on multiple teams. Example, the M&D red (B) team had a 2024 make the U16 national team! There are great players all over, the team are looking for the top talent.

You are delusional.

Yes, they are delusional. AS biggest money / control / power grab to date.

That could be? However, 2024s, for the most part and recruiting purposes are the ones being looked at this summer by the top LAX schools. I think They know the best 24 talent will be at AS this year and will head there for recruiting? With that said, how many girls are actually getting recruited by top schools? That’s where the delusion comes in.

There is plenty of great opportunity out there for all the girls. Just don’t get stunk in to the big hyped up stuff. Focus in strategically on the smaller individualized stuff. Try to be realistic about your daughters level of play and where she will be happy. The top 10 LAX schools are not the be all, end all. There are 500+ Colleges that offer women’s lacrosse!!! More importantly, Go for the Academics and atmosphere! Hopefully playing lacrosse has opened many doors! Good luck to all the girls!

We are not talking about girls looking to go to one of 500+ schools, we are talking about the chest pounders who believe that the political appointments to the 2024 AS roster are actually the best 2024 players on the Island. For many of these parents the "top lax schools" is the "be all end all". As for the academics, of course that is what most people prioritize, it just so happens that the majority of the best lacrosse programs are at schools with excellent academics, it's possible to have great academics, athletics and a great college experience.
I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.
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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

UA already has the Spotlight event for those that made callbacks but didn't make the team.

Will elevating those spotlight teams to a higher level really accomplish anything? I don't know.
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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

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There shouldn't be a debate. If you're on here trying to prove you should do it, then you're questioning your decision. If you're on here trying to prove you shouldn't do it then you're questioning your decision. You've all decided one way or the other already it's done. MOVE ON ALREADY!!
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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

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Are you saying that you want 200 girls from long Island (class of 2024) to go play at a tournament that is billed as a "select tournament"? Why not just go to tournaments with your club team? Why pay additional money to go to just another tournament? Two teams at a given age group is one too many for the event to be considered "select" but I will concede that having only one team would leave a handful of legit players out.

Just curious, do you propose an A, B, C, D format or do you want the talent spread evenly?
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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

👍

Are you saying that you want 200 girls from long Island (class of 2024) to go play at a tournament that is billed as a "select tournament"? Why not just go to tournaments with your club team? Why pay additional money to go to just another tournament? Two teams at a given age group is one too many for the event to be considered "select" but I will concede that having only one team would leave a handful of legit players out.

Just curious, do you propose an A, B, C, D format or do you want the talent spread evenly?

I read the above as he would like to see Under Armour have 4 separate teams not a 2023,2024 team and a 2025, 2026 team. I think that would be a good idea. Sure, that probably would saturate the field with LI players, but I don't believe there should be 3 LI teams for AS either. Should be one top team. (Good luck with that)

Not sure to why I/she did it but my daughter made UA 150 and AS. She probably should have tried for the Free UA tourney, but I'm not struggling to keep a roof over our head. This is what she wanted to do, so fortunately I am able to provide that for her. Not sure which one is better for recruiting, but if your kid can play, that should take care of itself. All my kid cares about is playing, and playing against high level players. I think whatever tourney you go to UA or AS, there will be good players there.
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I would love to see one thing come out of this American Select vs Under Armour debate. Under Armour have 4 teams according to graduating year just like American Select, instead of only 2. I would prefer for both of the main event weekend to still be the same weekend. This would allows 8 teams of girls to play more lacrosse and been seen by more coaches. If they were on different weekend, too many to the same girls would be at both events. There is enough exposure to go around and lets continue to see the sport grow. I am sure Under Armour takes a loss for the entire event, but it would be great to see the price fall closer to the UA amount.

👍

Are you saying that you want 200 girls from long Island (class of 2024) to go play at a tournament that is billed as a "select tournament"? Why not just go to tournaments with your club team? Why pay additional money to go to just another tournament? Two teams at a given age group is one too many for the event to be considered "select" but I will concede that having only one team would leave a handful of legit players out.

Just curious, do you propose an A, B, C, D format or do you want the talent spread evenly?

I read the above as he would like to see Under Armour have 4 separate teams not a 2023,2024 team and a 2025, 2026 team. I think that would be a good idea. Sure, that probably would saturate the field with LI players, but I don't believe there should be 3 LI teams for AS either. Should be one top team. (Good luck with that)

Not sure to why I/she did it but my daughter made UA 150 and AS. She probably should have tried for the Free UA tourney, but I'm not struggling to keep a roof over our head. This is what she wanted to do, so fortunately I am able to provide that for her. Not sure which one is better for recruiting, but if your kid can play, that should take care of itself. All my kid cares about is playing, and playing against high level players. I think whatever tourney you go to UA or AS, there will be good players there.

I agree, I’m glad there is more opportunity for more girls to attend the big showcases. However, it would be nice to see a truly elite one like UA used to be in the past, to showcase the truly top regional players in one place. I think it’s getting very watered down now.

They are all starting to be much of the same, at this point. UA had the best model in the past, a true invite that was sponsored and no charge to the players. It was about showcasing talent and not padding club owners pockets. There is too much emphasis on the $s in this sport now , making it even more elitist than the past.
I agree but in todays everyone gets a trophy world the UA model wouldn’t work today. There’s no more trust in these selective showcases to have a fair process. That’s UA or AS. Lacrosse is big business. Duke had a camp over a summer weekend where they pulled in over 200k. For 8 hours of lax.
Heck I wish I could run one of these tournaments. There’s at least 50 YJ parents who would give me money because they think their kid is the next Charlotte North. But truth be told, it’s in every sport these days, not just lax.
Lots of ‘24s cracking the Stat leader boards for Nassau and Suffolk. Great to see. Wish Newsday reflected the number of games played. Some schools play 2-3 more games than others so the stats are not actually accurate
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Lots of ‘24s cracking the Stat leader boards for Nassau and Suffolk. Great to see. Wish Newsday reflected the number of games played. Some schools play 2-3 more games than others so the stats are not actually accurate

The stats are just dense. They are not being kept properly and it’s like comparing apple and oranges between the teams and their schedules! The Stats are bogus as there is no way for them to be accurate the way they are now. They should not be used for judging the 24s and rating or ranking them. It really all depends on a lot of factors. The main one is there is no way to tell if they are being kept properly. Or at all! Who are jerking these stats? What’s the actual competition!? Crazy
Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..

The Stats are not a good way to be comparing the players and their “rankings”. Too many factors that are not making stats accurate.
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit

Ummm… there are other great teams on LI! NP, BBP and SA all rated higher! So, as far as LI goes , best teams not necessarily in Nassau. I agree the stats are like comparing apples and oranges. And …not always kept correctly.
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit

Ummm… there are other great teams on LI! NP, BBP and SA all rated higher! So, as far as LI goes , best teams not necessarily in Nassau. I agree the stats are like comparing apples and oranges. And …not always kept correctly.

If you play those legit teams and lose, your stats won't be padded as winning coaches report the scores to Newsday. Doubtful that an opposing coach is looking to pad an opponents stats. Also as far as stat pading goes the # of goals by players has to match the score of the game so tough to pad goals. There could be some issues with assists I guess but probably not much.
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

Interesting no mention of summer club tournament circuits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

Interesting no mention of summer club tournament circuits

No need to state the obvious. Summer and Fall club tournaments is where college coaches watch players compete, it's where the coaches identify the players that they will recruit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

Such an ignorant response from someone who knows nothing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit

Ummm… there are other great teams on LI! NP, BBP and SA all rated higher! So, as far as LI goes , best teams not necessarily in Nassau. I agree the stats are like comparing apples and oranges. And …not always kept correctly.

In Suffolk the top teams don’t all play in the same conference as they do Nassau.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

Such an ignorant response from someone who knows nothing.

--- "We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT" ---

It states "to be considered for an athletic spot" it does not state that an athlete will be granted admission. At Duke, the coach has between 7 - 10 "spots" the academic credentials needed will vary depending on the student athletes "athletic/lacrosse" ability. The #1 recruit will not need the same grades / test scores as the #9 recruit.

As for the other schools that you mention, the admissions process works in a similar way (Ivy's use their Academic Index). There is a minimum standard but the recruits will fall within a range. Coaches are not going to admissions with 10 kids who are all at the academic minimum ....
It’s the 2nd week of April and D1 schools are still committing female lacrosse athletes from the 2023 class. It’s a learning process but in hindsight, schools were still heavily focused on 2023 this past fall/winter. Many of the college coaches spoke of this and now we are seeing it play out.
Some 2022s were still in play in the late fall depending on the level and academic environment.
September 1, 2022 is not the finish line for many 2024 lax athletes. Not everyone will be getting a call in September or October but don’t be discouraged.
You can expect the environment to be the same with the 2024 class this fall/winter/ and next spring. Be patient as everyone’s experience is different.

Division 1 schools that signed 2023 female lacrosse athletes between March 1 and April 7, 2022.

Syracuse, Richmond, Army x2, Oregon, Gardner Webb x2, Kent St, Manhattan x3, Iona x2, Robert Morris x2, Lasalle, Holy Cross, Sacred Heart, Fairfield x2,
George Washington, Liberty, Eastern Michigan x2, Rutgers, Wagner, Merrimack, Presbyterian x3, Central Michigan, Campbell x3, Kennesaw St x2, Marquette, Niagara, Bucknell, Caniscius, Butler, Lindenwood, Radford, SUNY Albany

Division 2 and Division 3-

Rollins x3, Westchester x2, St Leo x2, Dension x4, SUNY Cortland, Muhlenberg, SCSU, Salisbury x2, Gettysburg x3, Findlay x2, Desales, Sewanee, SUNY New Paltz, East Strousberg , Franklin and Marshall, Flagler, Mt Olive, Queens U of Charlotte, Christopher Newport U x 4, Stonehill, Limestone, Dickinson, pace, Slippery Rock, RIT, Ursinus, Colby, Stevenson, Rochester, College of NJ, Wingate

X followed by a number represents multiple players signed

Good luck and happy hunting.
Don’t stress and enjoy the experience
550 Colleges/Universities that support D1, 2 of 3 women’s lacrosse and that’s not including the many club options
Syracuse signed all 6 recruits by mid October. Richmond has not added either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s the 2nd week of April and D1 schools are still committing female lacrosse athletes from the 2023 class. It’s a learning process but in hindsight, schools were still heavily focused on 2023 this past fall/winter. Many of the college coaches spoke of this and now we are seeing it play out.
Some 2022s were still in play in the late fall depending on the level and academic environment.
September 1, 2022 is not the finish line for many 2024 lax athletes. Not everyone will be getting a call in September or October but don’t be discouraged.
You can expect the environment to be the same with the 2024 class this fall/winter/ and next spring. Be patient as everyone’s experience is different.

Division 1 schools that signed 2023 female lacrosse athletes between March 1 and April 7, 2022.

Syracuse, Richmond, Army x2, Oregon, Gardner Webb x2, Kent St, Manhattan x3, Iona x2, Robert Morris x2, Lasalle, Holy Cross, Sacred Heart, Fairfield x2,
George Washington, Liberty, Eastern Michigan x2, Rutgers, Wagner, Merrimack, Presbyterian x3, Central Michigan, Campbell x3, Kennesaw St x2, Marquette, Niagara, Bucknell, Caniscius, Butler, Lindenwood, Radford, SUNY Albany

Division 2 and Division 3-

Rollins x3, Westchester x2, St Leo x2, Dension x4, SUNY Cortland, Muhlenberg, SCSU, Salisbury x2, Gettysburg x3, Findlay x2, Desales, Sewanee, SUNY New Paltz, East Strousberg , Franklin and Marshall, Flagler, Mt Olive, Queens U of Charlotte, Christopher Newport U x 4, Stonehill, Limestone, Dickinson, pace, Slippery Rock, RIT, Ursinus, Colby, Stevenson, Rochester, College of NJ, Wingate

X followed by a number represents multiple players signed

Good luck and happy hunting.
Don’t stress and enjoy the experience
550 Colleges/Universities that support D1, 2 of 3 women’s lacrosse and that’s not including the many club options

Amazing how many landing spots there are for women in lacrosse and the list is growing constantly..
This is a quality list of academic institutions.
It’s a busy time between recruiting and being in-season.
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Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit

Ummm… there are other great teams on LI! NP, BBP and SA all rated higher! So, as far as LI goes , best teams not necessarily in Nassau. I agree the stats are like comparing apples and oranges. And …not always kept correctly.

If you play those legit teams and lose, your stats won't be padded as winning coaches report the scores to Newsday. Doubtful that an opposing coach is looking to pad an opponents stats. Also as far as stat pading goes the # of goals by players has to match the score of the game so tough to pad goals. There could be some issues with assists I guess but probably not much.

This is the 2024 thread. Not the high school thread.
Rumor says the recruiting date that college coach can talk to athletes is going to move to June, anyone heard about this? Or is this for class 2024?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor says the recruiting date that college coach can talk to athletes is going to move to June, anyone heard about this? Or is this for class 2024?

June of their Junior year? Moved to later? Have not heard anything about that. If it’s true, I would think it would be known soon?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly. The lower bracket teams gave by far easier competition. Those players can rack up goals. Notice the Nassau power conf teams do not have players high on Those lists. Competition many times harder. Also. Coaches pad stats for their big names. I’ve seen it. Not accurate

Nassau Power Conference by far the toughest conference. Not a conference for padding your stats..


Best teams in Nassau:
Wantagh
GC
Manhasset
CSH

After that there is a drop off with lots of Stat padding. If you put up numbers playing those teams, you’re daughter is legit

Ummm… there are other great teams on LI! NP, BBP and SA all rated higher! So, as far as LI goes , best teams not necessarily in Nassau. I agree the stats are like comparing apples and oranges. And …not always kept correctly.

If you play those legit teams and lose, your stats won't be padded as winning coaches report the scores to Newsday. Doubtful that an opposing coach is looking to pad an opponents stats. Also as far as stat pading goes the # of goals by players has to match the score of the game so tough to pad goals. There could be some issues with assists I guess but probably not much.

This is the 2024 thread. Not the high school thread.

High school thread is dead
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor says the recruiting date that college coach can talk to athletes is going to move to June, anyone heard about this? Or is this for class 2024?

June of their Junior year? Moved to later? Have not heard anything about that. If it’s true, I would think it would be known soon?

No, earlier. Most NCAA sports (exceptions are football, basketball, baseball and lacrosse) use June 15 of sophomore year, and no one is really sure why lacrosse is an exception.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor says the recruiting date that college coach can talk to athletes is going to move to June, anyone heard about this? Or is this for class 2024?

D2 schools can contact players on June 15th
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor says the recruiting date that college coach can talk to athletes is going to move to June, anyone heard about this? Or is this for class 2024?

June of their Junior year? Moved to later? Have not heard anything about that. If it’s true, I would think it would be known soon?

No, earlier. Most NCAA sports (exceptions are football, basketball, baseball and lacrosse) use June 15 of sophomore year, and no one is really sure why lacrosse is an exception.

There's no need to make it earlier. All that does is push up the recruiting dates so girls are being recruited at an even younger age. They used to do it that way and it was notIntelligent. What 8th grader knows where they want to go college? Also how many players have hit their peak at 14 or 15 years old? September 1st of Junior year is early enough.
I wouldn’t mind it being Sept 1 of rising Sophomore year. Would save some money for us and a lot of time stressing out for them. I agree 8th grade is too young. But 15, 16 years old is old enough.
Should be June 1 like many of the other sports. It's stressful for all recruits, it would be nice to have communication and possible visits during the summer without a full school load and fall sports. The coaches are already in full recruiting mode during the summer. Much easier to talk to a coach after she just saw the girl play instead of 3 months later.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

ND standards are even lower than Duke's. However, as other posters have said, the majority of these school's rosters is well above these numbers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Below is an old document that was shared with us during my son's recruiting process. He is a current Junior in college and he was in the process before the "September 1" rule change was put in place.

Some of may be dated but I believe it can still shed some light on what college coaches look for. I would pay particular attention to the very last section.



Duke Lacrosse Recruiting Prospectus

As a top academic school that is committed to competing for the ACC and NCAA Championship every year, we choose to take a very calculated approach to the recruiting process.
We feel strongly that our approach has played a major part in the success of our program as well as the academic, athletic and personal success of our many players.

We are highly selective in our recruiting process and take enormous pride in the team culture and chemistry that exists within our program.
We place tremendous emphasis on getting to know our prospects and their families during the recruiting process. This experience has proven critical in finding players who will be happy and successful
student-athletes at Duke University.

When evaluating prospective student-athletes for our program,
there are four major components that we factor in:

Academic Fit
Athletic Fit
Personal Fit
Interest in Duke.

ACADEMIC FIT

Our admissions process plays a critical role in our recruiting process. We have between 7-10 spots to work with each year. Prospective student-athletes must fall within the parameters set by our admissions office to be considered for an athletic admissions “spot".
These parameters are as follows:

3.2-GPA or higher
1200 SAT
26 ACT

GPA: Our admissions office prefers prospects with a GPA of at least a 3.2 in a challenging curriculum where students are enrolled in honors/AP courses or are on track to take these courses in their senior year.

SAT's: Again, with the recruiting process beginning so early, we recommend that prospects consider taking the exam earlier as well. In addition, it has been our experience that writing component of the exam makes the test longer and therefore more challenging for most students. We recommend that prospects plan to take their standardize tests THREE times--Fall, Winter, Spring—in their junior year. Options include taking a combination of SAT's as well as the ACT exam.

The sooner prospects take these exams, the sooner we will know if they will be a good academic fit for Duke. 

Red Flags:  Two issues that would be considered "red flags" in the admissions process would include:
Multiple C's in core courses (Math, English, Science, History)
A score below a 550 in either Critical Reading or Math.

Exceptions: It is important to note that there are exceptions made for students who fall below the the standards listed above. These are handled on an individual basis. All of our students who have fallen in this range have graduated from Duke.

ATHLETIC FIT
Our Needs: Each year, we do our best to bring in players who will meet our greatest on-field needs. Often, we do not have a solid command of those needs until we have completed a full season with our newest players. By late May, we have been afforded the opportunity to see our freshmen and younger players grow and will better have a sense for where they will fit into the scheme of things throughout their career. These determinations help us to decide who we will zero in on for the next class.

As the recruiting process has accelerated so greatly, we do our best to “anticipate” what our needs will be as early as possible and communicate those needs to our prospective student-athletes. It is possible that our priorities will shift in focus from fall to spring based on our team’s development.

What we look for: We typically like to fill a class with 8 -10 players. We consider overall character to be the most essential piece of the process. Talent is extremely important, as all great teams have talented players, however when talent is even character rises. What are the athletic qualities we consider to be paramount? Speed, athleticism, game sense, sticks skills, coachability, adaptability, work ethic. Intangibles: competitive nature, heart, determination, love of the game, will to improve and will to win a championship. Lastly, we are looking for those strong enough to persevere through this process with confidence in their ability to reach set goals. The Duke experience is about maturing into a man of consequence and character.
 

PERSONAL FIT
Finding a great fit: When considering future players for our program, we first look for students who feel that Duke University will be a great fit for them. We encourage our prospects to not only visit Duke unofficially but other schools as well. The process of visiting schools, touring with admissions offices, and meeting coaching staffs will no doubt help them to determine if Duke could be a good fit for them.

Camp: As official visits have become virtually non-existent in the recruiting process, we encourage interested players to attend our camps. This will give prospects the opportunity to stay on our campus, meet our players, and spend time working with our staff. This experience is a valuable one in the recruiting process because it gives prospects a great feel for what it is like to be part of the Duke Men’s Lacrosse Program.

Sophomore Days: We offer sophomore days by invitation only. These are typically in the fall semester once we have had the chance to evaluate players academically and athletically through the early summer months. It is important for you to know that if someone isn’t invited to our sophomore day, it does not exclude them from being recruiting by us. We have many players on our team who never attended a sophomore weekend at Duke.


Our team: We have a team full of exceptional student athletes who do a tremendous job of balancing the demands academics, athletics and normal college social lives. Along with emphasizing a balanced approach, our program also very much embraces a "family" atmosphere. We feel strongly that this enhances the experience of our students academically, athletically and socially. We are looking for players who will embrace this aspect of our program.


INTEREST IN DUKE
Should all else be equal in evaluating prospects for our program, we are always going to choose kids who really want to be at Duke. A unique spirit is woven through the fabric of our university when it comes to athletics. There is total commitment to achieving excellence in the classroom, on the athletic field and in life. We want players in our program who is going to embrace this spirit and who feel a strong connection to our players, coaches, the program and the university environment as a whole.

3.2 GPA and 1200 SAT are weak, surprised they don’t have higher standards for their student athletes. You wouldn’t touch an Ivy or Stanford or ND with those grades. In line with Northwestern though.

ND standards are even lower than Duke's. However, as other posters have said, the majority of these school's rosters is well above these numbers.

Keep in mind, these are the minimum standards in order to be "Considered for an athletic admissions spot" it doesn't guarantee a spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be June 1 like many of the other sports. It's stressful for all recruits, it would be nice to have communication and possible visits during the summer without a full school load and fall sports. The coaches are already in full recruiting mode during the summer. Much easier to talk to a coach after she just saw the girl play instead of 3 months later.

College lacrosse is a spring sport. Coaches aren't ready to go to recruit June 1st. They need the summer to watch the girls play. Otherwise, they would be recruiting based on what happened the previous Fall. Soccer recruiting starts June 15th but that makes sense because soccer is a Fall college sport. And then club soccer has showcases, ECNL games etc during the spring. It doesn't make sense for the spring sports to start recruiting in June.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be June 1 like many of the other sports. It's stressful for all recruits, it would be nice to have communication and possible visits during the summer without a full school load and fall sports. The coaches are already in full recruiting mode during the summer. Much easier to talk to a coach after she just saw the girl play instead of 3 months later.

College lacrosse is a spring sport. Coaches aren't ready to go to recruit June 1st. They need the summer to watch the girls play. Otherwise, they would be recruiting based on what happened the previous Fall. Soccer recruiting starts June 15th but that makes sense because soccer is a Fall college sport. And then club soccer has showcases, ECNL games etc during the spring. It doesn't make sense for the spring sports to start recruiting in June.

Coaches started recruiting this fall for 24s. If you know any college coaches in the recruiting circuit they will tell you they watched and are following 24s since this fall. Doesn’t mean end of the world if they didn’t see you, but they definitely are looking before June and September
College lacrosse is a spring sport. Coaches aren't ready to go to recruit June 1st. They need the summer to watch the girls play. Otherwise, they would be recruiting based on what happened the previous Fall. Soccer recruiting starts June 15th but that makes sense because soccer is a Fall college sport. And then club soccer has showcases, ECNL games etc during the spring. It doesn't make sense for the spring sports to start recruiting in June.[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Should be June 1 like many of the other sports. It's stressful for all recruits, it would be nice to have communication and possible visits during the summer without a full school load and fall sports. The coaches are already in full recruiting mode during the summer. Much easier to talk to a coach after she just saw the girl play instead of 3 months later.

All changing the recruiting start date doesn is change the time when coaches can start talking directly to players (and make offers) instead of funnelling things through their club coaches. If anything, would be a positive change especially for the top recruits since they wouldn't have to make decisions in a 4 week time frame.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s the 2nd week of April and D1 schools are still committing female lacrosse athletes from the 2023 class. It’s a learning process but in hindsight, schools were still heavily focused on 2023 this past fall/winter. Many of the college coaches spoke of this and now we are seeing it play out.
Some 2022s were still in play in the late fall depending on the level and academic environment.
September 1, 2022 is not the finish line for many 2024 lax athletes. Not everyone will be getting a call in September or October but don’t be discouraged.
You can expect the environment to be the same with the 2024 class this fall/winter/ and next spring. Be patient as everyone’s experience is different.

Division 1 schools that signed 2023 female lacrosse athletes between March 1 and April 7, 2022.

Syracuse, Richmond, Army x2, Oregon, Gardner Webb x2, Kent St, Manhattan x3, Iona x2, Robert Morris x2, Lasalle, Holy Cross, Sacred Heart, Fairfield x2,
George Washington, Liberty, Eastern Michigan x2, Rutgers, Wagner, Merrimack, Presbyterian x3, Central Michigan, Campbell x3, Kennesaw St x2, Marquette, Niagara, Bucknell, Caniscius, Butler, Lindenwood, Radford, SUNY Albany

Division 2 and Division 3-

Rollins x3, Westchester x2, St Leo x2, Dension x4, SUNY Cortland, Muhlenberg, SCSU, Salisbury x2, Gettysburg x3, Findlay x2, Desales, Sewanee, SUNY New Paltz, East Strousberg , Franklin and Marshall, Flagler, Mt Olive, Queens U of Charlotte, Christopher Newport U x 4, Stonehill, Limestone, Dickinson, pace, Slippery Rock, RIT, Ursinus, Colby, Stevenson, Rochester, College of NJ, Wingate

X followed by a number represents multiple players signed

Good luck and happy hunting.
Don’t stress and enjoy the experience
550 Colleges/Universities that support D1, 2 of 3 women’s lacrosse and that’s not including the many club options


One more time for those in the back. 1) yes some top D1 schools do add some 23 girls in the spring and even summer 2) the vast majority of them will not be getting any scholarship $$. Both can be true.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be June 1 like many of the other sports. It's stressful for all recruits, it would be nice to have communication and possible visits during the summer without a full school load and fall sports. The coaches are already in full recruiting mode during the summer. Much easier to talk to a coach after she just saw the girl play instead of 3 months later.

College lacrosse is a spring sport. Coaches aren't ready to go to recruit June 1st. They need the summer to watch the girls play. Otherwise, they would be recruiting based on what happened the previous Fall. Soccer recruiting starts June 15th but that makes sense because soccer is a Fall college sport. And then club soccer has showcases, ECNL games etc during the spring. It doesn't make sense for the spring sports to start recruiting in June.

Yes for sure
Schools are in season right now and still signing 2023s.
They will need this summer and fall to look at 2024.
This fall 2024s may have been invited and present but it was obvious that colleges were Uber focused on 2023 and some still completing the 2022 class. At the winter camps we saw the same as many schools were mainly focused on 2023.
Seems to me that Sept 1 date makes a lot of sense.
As we have seen the recruiting for 2024 will carry on for many months. Many D1 schools are still signing players now. D2 and D3 tend to move later are starting to heat up now on 2023. It has been very busy.
American select will be changing their name to ‘Everyone makes the Team’ showcase while CR gets paid. Keep drinking the juice. It really doesn’t make much difference to college coaches. Plenty of top kids don’t attend these things. Some that do don’t pan out either. But keep thinking paying $700 for this will get you the extra exposure you needed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
American select will be changing their name to ‘Everyone makes the Team’ showcase while CR gets paid. Keep drinking the juice. It really doesn’t make much difference to college coaches. Plenty of top kids don’t attend these things. Some that do don’t pan out either. But keep thinking paying $700 for this will get you the extra exposure you needed.

It's fun and great lacrosse! Great event! You can stay home and keep being miserable!
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!
American Select will have a ton of college coaches watching the games. Also, Best in Class will have a lot of top college coaches in attendance. If your daughter is good enough and lucky enough to be chosen these are great events to be seen at. Are they deal breakers? No, but it certainly helps boost visibility for the girls that get to participate.
Some top teams -BC comes to mind only have a handful of commits. They are either waiting to see more of what they need, or they’re waiting for the portal. This portal is going to change a lot of things about recruiting from the top teams.
Could you explain what you mean for "portal" ?
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It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

Good luck at the UA tryouts! You are transparent. Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

Good luck at the UA tryouts! You are transparent. Lol

You don’t get it. Players on both ua and as will be waiting for big time calls. These teams do not guarantee you get recruited.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

You are a pathetic person....why in the world would you feel the need to bash a teenage girl. Seriously i feel so bad for your daughter to have a parent like you. I bet you have a Napoleon complex also.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

I thought the teams were distinguished by Black, Red and Grey. Does the fact that you don't know that mean your kid is going to be watching from the sideline?
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

I thought the teams were distinguished by Black, Red and Grey. Does the fact that you don't know that mean your kid is going to be watching from the sideline?

Ok gray. Everyone knows it’s the 3rd team to make more money for the organizers. They thank you!
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Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

I thought the teams were distinguished by Black, Red and Grey. Does the fact that you don't know that mean your kid is going to be watching from the sideline?

Ok gray. Everyone knows it’s the 3rd team to make more money for the organizers. They thank you!



The first two teams both have very talented girls on them. Definitely can switch a player or 2 on red to black on any given day.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's laughable how the vocal minority come on and rip events and put down girls on this site. It's great you have a place to get it off your chest and tell so many how the world works. I hope you're not making such an butt of your self on the sidelines, or your daughter would have quit lacrosse years ago from your negative attitude. Keep spewing the nonsense, detest and venom, I hope it therapeutic!

Congrats on your daughter making the 3rd team. Make sure you put on your resume so they know to look for you. You don’t wanna miss those Sept 1 calls from all the top schools cause you made American Select white.

I thought the teams were distinguished by Black, Red and Grey. Does the fact that you don't know that mean your kid is going to be watching from the sideline?

Ok gray. Everyone knows it’s the 3rd team to make more money for the organizers. They thank you!



The first two teams both have very talented girls on them. Definitely can switch a player or 2 on red to black on any given day.

Red is not black.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Maybe the Yellow Jackets and Grizzlies. Some areas will struggle to get 23 age group talent that is committed. UA so they can be considered for senior game or nothing.
This is a 2024 thread. America Select is all 2024's per team with great talent on the current rosters listed as previously said hundreds of times. It's where 90% of the top players will be this summer. Who cares about the 2023's, wish them luck, but stop comparing apples(2024s) and oranges(2023s). If your daughter makes any American Select 2024 team and you can pay the fee, congratulations and seize the opportunity. Under Armour is probably the preferred option next year for many 2024's, why pay AS big money if your daughter is a committed 2024 next summer. There are a ton of great DI girls that won't make their American Select regional teams (even Long Island's 3 teams), not the end of the world. It's just 1 event of many out there to get in front of coaches.
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This is a 2024 thread. America Select is all 2024's per team with great talent on the current rosters listed as previously said hundreds of times. It's where 90% of the top players will be this summer. Who cares about the 2023's, wish them luck, but stop comparing apples(2024s) and oranges(2023s). If your daughter makes any American Select 2024 team and you can pay the fee, congratulations and seize the opportunity. Under Armour is probably the preferred option next year for many 2024's, why pay AS big money if your daughter is a committed 2024 next summer. There are a ton of great DI girls that won't make their American Select regional teams (even Long Island's 3 teams), not the end of the world. It's just 1 event of many out there to get in front of coaches.

This. 100%.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

AS is a complete joke. How can you have three teams from one grad year and try to call it a "select or elite" event? Absolute money grab, maybe the biggest money grab in the history of the sport. Might as well just go to the regular tournaments with your club team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

AS is a complete joke. How can you have three teams from one grad year and try to call it a "select or elite" event? Absolute money grab, maybe the biggest money grab in the history of the sport. Might as well just go to the regular tournaments with your club team.

You're missing the point of these national events. AS is bigger than LI. AS is getting top talent from across the country, giving them a chance to compete head to head. You don't get that a local tourney with your club team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

AS is a complete joke. How can you have three teams from one grad year and try to call it a "select or elite" event? Absolute money grab, maybe the biggest money grab in the history of the sport. Might as well just go to the regular tournaments with your club team.

You're missing the point of these national events. AS is bigger than LI. AS is getting top talent from across the country, giving them a chance to compete head to head. You don't get that a local tourney with your club team.

I thought two was a stretch but three. Three is a joke. Teams that have to play the third LI will not be getting anything out of it. And the girls getting crushed 15-2 won’t be getting out of it as well. Thanks for the donation they should say. And please don’t say there is tremendous talent here on LI. We know the rosters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

AS is a complete joke. How can you have three teams from one grad year and try to call it a "select or elite" event? Absolute money grab, maybe the biggest money grab in the history of the sport. Might as well just go to the regular tournaments with your club team.

You're missing the point of these national events. AS is bigger than LI. AS is getting top talent from across the country, giving them a chance to compete head to head. You don't get that a local tourney with your club team.

I thought two was a stretch but three. Three is a joke. Teams that have to play the third LI will not be getting anything out of it. And the girls getting crushed 15-2 won’t be getting out of it as well. Thanks for the donation they should say. And please don’t say there is tremendous talent here on LI. We know the rosters.

Why do you sound like your kid wasn't selected?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

AS is a complete joke. How can you have three teams from one grad year and try to call it a "select or elite" event? Absolute money grab, maybe the biggest money grab in the history of the sport. Might as well just go to the regular tournaments with your club team.

You're missing the point of these national events. AS is bigger than LI. AS is getting top talent from across the country, giving them a chance to compete head to head. You don't get that a local tourney with your club team.

I thought two was a stretch but three. Three is a joke. Teams that have to play the third LI will not be getting anything out of it. And the girls getting crushed 15-2 won’t be getting out of it as well. Thanks for the donation they should say. And please don’t say there is tremendous talent here on LI. We know the rosters.

Why do you sound like your kid wasn't selected?

Ah, the usual comeback on this site when you tell the truth. No she's going and probably won't have to play the Gray team. Please come back and post the scores of the Gray team after the Selects are over and tell me I was wrong. Having three teams is ridiculous. Sorry you can't separate having your daughter making that team and seeing the truth.
Teams with open spots? Preferably those with a good summer schedule that is locked down.
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy
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There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.
Interesting. Why I. This site if you are against something it’s always someone saying “I guess your daughter didn’t make it.” If you are for something your a chest pounding daddy.

Can’t it just be opinion. I’m this case, I think it’s a money grab. Can’t have three teams from an area and say it’s the top of region. Just can’t. Interesting to see if Maryland has two teams.

Just my opinion. Nothing to do with my daughter. =)
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Interesting. Why I. This site if you are against something it’s always someone saying “I guess your daughter didn’t make it.” If you are for something your a chest pounding daddy.

Can’t it just be opinion. I’m this case, I think it’s a money grab. Can’t have three teams from an area and say it’s the top of region. Just can’t. Interesting to see if Maryland has two teams.

Just my opinion. Nothing to do with my daughter. =)

As a MD parent whose daughter hasn't had tryouts yet, it will certainly be interesting to see if there will be more than 1 team per AG....
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Teams with open spots? Preferably those with a good summer schedule that is locked down.

If by good summer schedule you mean the big tournaments in MD, NJ, etc you might try reaching out to the bigger clubs that have more than one team (YJ, TG, maybe Jesters?). Sometimes their lower teams aren't completely full, and they usually go to same tournaments as the A teams
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There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy

How come they don’t make 3 teams in Maryland ? Just think of the money they could make. These are supposed to be selective and elite. Here everyone pays and is making it.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy

How come they don’t make 3 teams in Maryland ? Just think of the money they could make. These are supposed to be selective and elite. Here everyone pays and is making it.

No don’t say that. You’ll be labeled a chest pumper. You know there’s so much talent in Long Island they can have five teams. Just ask the moms. 🙄
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy

How come they don’t make 3 teams in Maryland ? Just think of the money they could make. These are supposed to be selective and elite. Here everyone pays and is making it.

Was going to add that about Maryland but realized they didn’t have theirs yet. I am sure they won’t have three. We’ll see if they have two.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy

How come they don’t make 3 teams in Maryland ? Just think of the money they could make. These are supposed to be selective and elite. Here everyone pays and is making it.

Was going to add that about Maryland but realized they didn’t have theirs yet. I am sure they won’t have three. We’ll see if they have two.

Will the "A" Teams only play "A" Teams or will they schedule "B" & "C" Teams vs "A" Teams? How many regions will have multiple teams?

No problem with multiple teams from different regions but the event should not be considered Select or Elite, especially if the top teams are scheduled to play lower tier teams.
The American Select MD tryouts are 1 week before the Under Armour tryouts next month. Get out the popcorn! Under Armour's brand is strong down there, looks like AS hopes stacked rosters in the other regions will bring in the top MD players. There is a strong list of coaches, but no M&D coaches shown on the AS website. What's the over under on 2024 teams down in that battle ground territory? Coach Levy is at Nike headquarters East and her daughter plays for club Under Armour.
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The American Select MD tryouts are 1 week before the Under Armour tryouts next month. Get out the popcorn! Under Armour's brand is strong down there, looks like AS hopes stacked rosters in the other regions will bring in the top MD players. There is a strong list of coaches, but no M&D coaches shown on the AS website. What's the over under on 2024 teams down in that battle ground territory? Coach Levy is at Nike headquarters East and her daughter plays for club Under Armour.

Isn’t AS a Nike sponsored event? What is club under armor?
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The American Select MD tryouts are 1 week before the Under Armour tryouts next month. Get out the popcorn! Under Armour's brand is strong down there, looks like AS hopes stacked rosters in the other regions will bring in the top MD players. There is a strong list of coaches, but no M&D coaches shown on the AS website. What's the over under on 2024 teams down in that battle ground territory? Coach Levy is at Nike headquarters East and her daughter plays for club Under Armour.
Think most of Coaches on as ended up going back to ua this year. Imagine the players will follow but remember this is their younger year so it might be tough for most to make ua highlight
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own

Lmao. “Just watches”. But you go and post on a lacrosse forum. Doesn’t sound like just watching. About the YJ thing. Nope. You’re wrong. I was referring to the YJ players on the team. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m one of the people on here saying the tryouts are fixed with the AS being just as bad as UA. No way you can have a tryout and have the entire team make it. The top kids on Jesters or Top Guns are better than the bottom kids on YJ. And when I have said that I’ve gotten the response “I guess your kid didn’t make it.

Sorry for calling you a mom. You’re obviously a Helicopter dad. There’s a ton of them too. Glad your daughter made the gray team. Still can’t convince me it’s not a money grab putting a third team there that will get trounced. Should only be one team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own

Lmao. “Just watches”. But you go and post on a lacrosse forum. Doesn’t sound like just watching. About the YJ thing. Nope. You’re wrong. I was referring to the YJ players on the team. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m one of the people on here saying the tryouts are fixed with the AS being just as bad as UA. No way you can have a tryout and have the entire team make it. The top kids on Jesters or Top Guns are better than the bottom kids on YJ. And when I have said that I’ve gotten the response “I guess your kid didn’t make it.

Sorry for calling you a mom. You’re obviously a Helicopter dad. There’s a ton of them too. Glad your daughter made the gray team. Still can’t convince me it’s not a money grab putting a third team there that will get trounced. Should only be one team.

I post on here is response to Napoleon complex type dads like you who feel the need to come on here and bash the accomplishments of 16yr old girls. They all should be encouraged and applauded for whatever level they achieve. Not all of them want or need to be the next Charlotte North. Seriously what does it really matter to you in the big picture ? Why not let the girls feel good about themselves without coming on here and anonymously bashing them ? So they made the Grey team. My god its the end of the world !!!!!! Get a life you stunad
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The American Select MD tryouts are 1 week before the Under Armour tryouts next month. Get out the popcorn! Under Armour's brand is strong down there, looks like AS hopes stacked rosters in the other regions will bring in the top MD players. There is a strong list of coaches, but no M&D coaches shown on the AS website. What's the over under on 2024 teams down in that battle ground territory? Coach Levy is at Nike headquarters East and her daughter plays for club Under Armour.

Isn’t AS a Nike sponsored event? What is club under armor?

Nike doesn’t sponsor. You pay for it with your $700 payment. Then they purchase practice pinnies and shorts. Congrats to all 66 elite Long Island players that made the team/s !!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own

Lmao. “Just watches”. But you go and post on a lacrosse forum. Doesn’t sound like just watching. About the YJ thing. Nope. You’re wrong. I was referring to the YJ players on the team. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m one of the people on here saying the tryouts are fixed with the AS being just as bad as UA. No way you can have a tryout and have the entire team make it. The top kids on Jesters or Top Guns are better than the bottom kids on YJ. And when I have said that I’ve gotten the response “I guess your kid didn’t make it.

Sorry for calling you a mom. You’re obviously a Helicopter dad. There’s a ton of them too. Glad your daughter made the gray team. Still can’t convince me it’s not a money grab putting a third team there that will get trounced. Should only be one team.

I post on here is response to Napoleon complex type dads like you who feel the need to come on here and bash the accomplishments of 16yr old girls. They all should be encouraged and applauded for whatever level they achieve. Not all of them want or need to be the next Charlotte North. Seriously what does it really matter to you in the big picture ? Why not let the girls feel good about themselves without coming on here and anonymously bashing them ? So they made the Grey team. My god its the end of the world !!!!!! Get a life you stunad

Hahaha. Of course you do. But I thought you just watch? No you come on here like everyone else and post their opinion. Try reading what I write. It may be hard for helicopter dads like yourself to just read the written words and not put their own thought into it. Btw I’m 6’3”. So stick with the chest pounding reference. Napoleon doesn’t work.

No one who is against the AS having three teams is mentioning anything about the girls. It’s not their fault they are making this a money grab so dads like you can spend 2k this weekend to get slaughtered just to put it on their kids connect lax resume.

You’ve made three assumptions so far on my posts about me and have been wrong on all three. I’ll try it again. This is supposed to be a special tournament. Best against best. Having three teams in one region negates that. I understand helicopter parents like yourself love the everybody gets a trophy mentality, but events like this are not supposed to be where everyone gets to play.
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
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[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

I was making a point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own

Lmao. “Just watches”. But you go and post on a lacrosse forum. Doesn’t sound like just watching. About the YJ thing. Nope. You’re wrong. I was referring to the YJ players on the team. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m one of the people on here saying the tryouts are fixed with the AS being just as bad as UA. No way you can have a tryout and have the entire team make it. The top kids on Jesters or Top Guns are better than the bottom kids on YJ. And when I have said that I’ve gotten the response “I guess your kid didn’t make it.

Sorry for calling you a mom. You’re obviously a Helicopter dad. There’s a ton of them too. Glad your daughter made the gray team. Still can’t convince me it’s not a money grab putting a third team there that will get trounced. Should only be one team.

I post on here is response to Napoleon complex type dads like you who feel the need to come on here and bash the accomplishments of 16yr old girls. They all should be encouraged and applauded for whatever level they achieve. Not all of them want or need to be the next Charlotte North. Seriously what does it really matter to you in the big picture ? Why not let the girls feel good about themselves without coming on here and anonymously bashing them ? So they made the Grey team. My god its the end of the world !!!!!! Get a life you stunad

It’s not the girls that are on here. It’s the mommies that wanna parade every small little thing around looking for attention! Like you. Congrats on the grey team. When is the party ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

Sorry. AS started to compete with what they thought was a money grab. The UA tryouts were unfair and political and teams were made before anyone showed up they said. UA is the better event especially to be considered for senior game and for $150 it’s definitely a better value.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

AS was started by CR because UA was not political enough. And also for $$$, of course
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are talented girls on all 3 teams....who cares the color. You do realize how many girls play lacrosse on Long Island. But I also realize I am dealing with an ignorant chest pounding daddy


😀. I do realize as I live here and my daughter plays for one of the YJ. But then again I also know a large majority of the players on the third team. Keep telling yourself there’s enough talent on LI for three teams. Once again, Come back here and tell me the scores. Don’t worry. I’ll do it for you. I love being a chest pounding daddy who is usually right and love pointing it out to the helicopter moms.

See you said it all with 2 little letters .YJ Only YJ parents have talented kids. I forgot and thank you for putting me in my place. Not a mom by the way. Just a normal Dad who enjoys watching his daughter play. Watching is the key word. Not living through. She gets her accolades all on her own

Lmao. “Just watches”. But you go and post on a lacrosse forum. Doesn’t sound like just watching. About the YJ thing. Nope. You’re wrong. I was referring to the YJ players on the team. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m one of the people on here saying the tryouts are fixed with the AS being just as bad as UA. No way you can have a tryout and have the entire team make it. The top kids on Jesters or Top Guns are better than the bottom kids on YJ. And when I have said that I’ve gotten the response “I guess your kid didn’t make it.

Sorry for calling you a mom. You’re obviously a Helicopter dad. There’s a ton of them too. Glad your daughter made the gray team. Still can’t convince me it’s not a money grab putting a third team there that will get trounced. Should only be one team.

I post on here is response to Napoleon complex type dads like you who feel the need to come on here and bash the accomplishments of 16yr old girls. They all should be encouraged and applauded for whatever level they achieve. Not all of them want or need to be the next Charlotte North. Seriously what does it really matter to you in the big picture ? Why not let the girls feel good about themselves without coming on here and anonymously bashing them ? So they made the Grey team. My god its the end of the world !!!!!! Get a life you stunad

It’s not the girls that are on here. It’s the mommies that wanna parade every small little thing around looking for attention! Like you. Congrats on the grey team. When is the party ?

Yep! He's supposedly a dad. Still not sure about that. Probably a mom. Either way, he/she is off base on just about everything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

I was making a point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.

AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

I was making a point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.

AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.

Wrong. Under Armour 150 is different. UA 150 is a application based tournament. If you get selected you pay. Under Armour Underclass tournament is the tournament that AS was made to compete with. That is free.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
.

I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.[/quote]

AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.[/quote]

Amazing people come on here to lecture others while being uniformed. UA 150 is totally different that the UA tournament and not held the same time as AS
AS and UA are held the same days in July.
UA 150 is in the end of June.
Google is a good search engine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.

It's not the same weekend as UA 150, it's the same weekend as the UA Underclass tournament. Two different events. You only pay the tryout fee for the UA Underclass tourney. So no additional cost after tryouts.
No, AS is same weekend as UA All American and not UA 150! UA 150 is something completely different all together!. UA all American is no charge for main event if picked after tryouts. That is the same weekend as AS.
Everyone needs to realize kids may have other motives on doing these events other than just being the best player or on the best team. Some kids just want to enjoy the sport. Let them have fun and relax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone needs to realize kids may have other motives on doing these events other than just being the best player or on the best team. Some kids just want to enjoy the sport. Let them have fun and relax.

For the 3,000th time. It's not an event for that. This is not an event where everyone should be playing. UA and AS were made to be the best at their age group. Putting in three teams on Long Island negated that. All for money.

It's unfathomable parents can't see that without thinking its taking something away from their kid who is not one of the 20th best in their region. My son likes ice hockey. Should he be able to go play in the u16 World Juniors? Of course not.

If a kid loves the sport, that's great. If they aren't the best in their division, that's what travel is for. There is enough opportunities for everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone needs to realize kids may have other motives on doing these events other than just being the best player or on the best team. Some kids just want to enjoy the sport. Let them have fun and relax.

For the 3,000th time. It's not an event for that. This is not an event where everyone should be playing. UA and AS were made to be the best at their age group. Putting in three teams on Long Island negated that. All for money.

It's unfathomable parents can't see that without thinking its taking something away from their kid who is not one of the 20th best in their region. My son likes ice hockey. Should he be able to go play in the u16 World Juniors? Of course not.

If a kid loves the sport, that's great. If they aren't the best in their division, that's what travel is for. There is enough opportunities for everyone.

Nope. Everyone needs to get a trophy in this society.
Not to mention that AS isn't a true representative of Long Island to begin with. 6 non yellow jackets on the top two teams. Nonsense.
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
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I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

How can UA be a money grab? It’s no cost to the player other than tryouts! Look how much AS cost!!!! Thats the real money grab!

I was making a point
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️[/quot

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
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I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.

AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.

Wrong. Under Armour 150 is different. UA 150 is a application based tournament. If you get selected you pay. Under Armour Underclass tournament is the tournament that AS was made to compete with. That is free.

Yes, apologies. Things blend with so many different showcases, tournaments and IWLCA events.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ll try it once again without any insults so therefore maybe you can see it.

AS and UA are supposed to be top events with the best kids playing against each other. You can’t have a best of the best showcase if you allow 66 kids from one region. This has nothing to do with the kids on the gray team but they aren’t the best in Long Island. You’re kidding yourself if you think that. It’s like saying Coastal Carolina should be allowed on the NCAA tournament because they should have a chance too.

It’s bad enough these tryouts are fake with the amount of club affiliate kids that make the team. Now we are going to have the 45th best player on YJ playing against the 20 best kids from Maryland or NJ. That’s not what this even is supposed to be. That’s club lax where a team puts themself in a certain bracket. But I’m just pounding my chest. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wow your kid must be legit. By the way my daughter isn't doing AS I just felt it was pathetic that you needed to put down 16 yr olds. You are correct in saying that not everyone deserves a trophy but 66 kids out of all the girls who play lacrosse on Long Island is still pretty good. Maybe they won't get the calls from UNC or BC but they still should be applauded for their hard work 6'3" still can have a Napoleon complex.
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I think the point he is making is that AS started because they felt UA was political and a money grab. This proves that it is just that. 3 Long Island teams is a joke for an elite event and people still question who made the top team. Charlie and Carol thank you all though and it looks great on your resume.

Mostly. I made the point that AS Long Island is a money grab. UA in my opinion wasn't a money grab. It was free. But it was extremely political and had a lot of negative press regarding selection. That's why AS was started. But now in just two years it's just as bad if not worse than UA. You would have to be insane to think its just a coincidence that six teams of AS Long Island has almost the same amount of YJ kids on each selected team. You Despite what the helicopter dad wrongly accused me of, you can't convince me that the most skilled players on the top Legacy, TG, Jesters, etc are not more skilled than a kid on the second and third YJ team and even some on the top team. That being said, there should only be one team for each region which is my point. But helo dad, who just watches his daughter play lacrosse and doesn't live through it even though in his spare time he peruses a lacrosse forum, keeps saying that my post is putting down kids. Couldn't be further from the truth.

AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.[/quote]

Amazing people come on here to lecture others while being uniformed. UA 150 is totally different that the UA tournament and not held the same time as AS
AS and UA are held the same days in July.
UA 150 is in the end of June.
Google is a good search engine.[/quote]

You still mad because your kid is on the Grey team? Or didn't make it at all?
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AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.[/quote]

Amazing people come on here to lecture others while being uniformed. UA 150 is totally different that the UA tournament and not held the same time as AS
AS and UA are held the same days in July.
UA 150 is in the end of June.
Google is a good search engine.[/quote]

You still mad because your kid is on the Grey team? Or didn't make it at all?[/quote]

Another one on this site where reading isn’t fundamental. I’m the one who was in the discussion with gray helicopter dad/mom. My kid is on the yellow jacket team. Of course she made it. The entire yellow jacket nation made it. Whether right or wrong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.

Amazing people come on here to lecture others while being uniformed. UA 150 is totally different that the UA tournament and not held the same time as AS
AS and UA are held the same days in July.
UA 150 is in the end of June.
Google is a good search engine.[/quote]

You still mad because your kid is on the Grey team? Or didn't make it at all?[/quote]

Another one on this site where reading isn’t fundamental. I’m the one who was in the discussion with gray helicopter dad/mom. My kid is on the yellow jacket team. Of course she made it. The entire yellow jacket nation made it. Whether right or wrong.[/quote]

Not sure why you think as was created to compete with ua150. I haven’t looked this year but last year ua and as were the same weekend, ua150 was randomly during the week. Also, as poaches coaches from ua directly last year. I think the person who is saying it’s free is referring to the fact that there are no charges for ua if you make the team.

Think you need to get your facts straight as well
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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AS was started to compete with Under Armour 150. That's why they are the same weekend and both $600 +/-. I don't know where you keep coming up with it being free, UA150 was never free.

Amazing people come on here to lecture others while being uniformed. UA 150 is totally different that the UA tournament and not held the same time as AS
AS and UA are held the same days in July.
UA 150 is in the end of June.
Google is a good search engine.

You still mad because your kid is on the Grey team? Or didn't make it at all?[/quote]

Another one on this site where reading isn’t fundamental. I’m the one who was in the discussion with gray helicopter dad/mom. My kid is on the yellow jacket team. Of course she made it. The entire yellow jacket nation made it. Whether right or wrong.[/quote]

Not sure why you think as was created to compete with ua150. I haven’t looked this year but last year ua and as were the same weekend, ua150 was randomly during the week. Also, as poaches coaches from ua directly last year. I think the person who is saying it’s free is referring to the fact that there are no charges for ua if you make the team.

Think you need to get your facts straight as well[/quote]

Once again. You keep responding to the wrong person.
Omg can we please stop beating this dead horse? MOVE ON
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.
Agree, won’t know much till after the second tournament of the season. Way to early to judge
It’s great to see so many 24’s contributing on their varsity teams
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.

FLG and Jesters Pink B aren't ranked either
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.

Agreed - "updated" rankings in April are useless
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.

Agreed - "updated" rankings in April are useless

Even if the games are just from the fall how are teams still unranked ? How many games do they need? Surely all of those teams have played the minimum no?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.

Agreed - "updated" rankings in April are useless

Even if the games are just from the fall how are teams still unranked ? How many games do they need? Surely all of those teams have played the minimum no?

I’m guessing those teams were unranked because they aren’t better than teams above them and didn’t move up cause they didn’t beat anyone this spring while playing high school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NEW US Club lax ranking released today.

Thoughts on updated LI ranks?

YJ Weiner A #4
LI Legacy Blue A- #10
YJ Ramos B- #19
YJ Kildare C- #26
Top Guns Black A- #34
LI Liberty- #50
Jesters Black A- #56
Empire Bengals A- #60
Lax on- #119
LI Top Guns Purple B- #123
Elevate- #153
Team 91 Navy B- #157

Unranked teams
Empire B
Team 91 Orange A
YJ O'Sullivan

Are they really updated? Club season isn't happening right now.

Agreed - "updated" rankings in April are useless

Even if the games are just from the fall how are teams still unranked ? How many games do they need? Surely all of those teams have played the minimum no?

I’m guessing those teams were unranked because they aren’t better than teams above them and didn’t move up cause they didn’t beat anyone this spring while playing high school.

I believe you need 6 games at grade level, against club teams only, and full length
What Club teams played this spring ? Most of these kids are playing High School lacrosse right now.
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What Club teams played this spring ? Most of these kids are playing High School lacrosse right now.

Pretty sure it was just late reports. There was only one tournament in march but they already sent an update on that one. Most of the teams didn't change. If they did, they went up or down a couple spots.
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What Club teams played this spring ? Most of these kids are playing High School lacrosse right now.

Pretty sure it was just late reports. There was only one tournament in march but they already sent an update on that one. Most of the teams didn't change. If they did, they went up or down a couple spots.

One team played in March tournament but against Highschool teams mostly and any 7 v 7 local tournaments don’t count so neither really effected their rank.
What are teams summer schedules like?
Our Highschool coaches told us not to do school girls because it fell on the same weekend as more important events… did anyone get any different info on it?
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Our Highschool coaches told us not to do school girls because it fell on the same weekend as more important events… did anyone get any different info on it?

Schoolgirls?
Schoolgirls is Memorial Day weekend close to ncaa championships. No other events around.
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Schoolgirls is Memorial Day weekend close to ncaa championships. No other events around.

Yea, I suspect what happened was your high school coach missed the deadline to nominate players. There is also a limit to how many they can nominate, so maybe they just didn't want to be in a position of nominating some players over others.
AS looks like it won’t have a very good 23 tournament. I assume most will try out for under armour to possibly make senior game next year. Is that why they added extra teams at other age groups. ?
School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.
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Schoolgirls is Memorial Day weekend close to ncaa championships. No other events around.

Yea, I suspect what happened was your high school coach missed the deadline to nominate players. There is also a limit to how many they can nominate, so maybe they just didn't want to be in a position of nominating some players over others.

Your area doesn't have tryouts for your school girls team? it's done by HS coach nominations?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schoolgirls is Memorial Day weekend close to ncaa championships. No other events around.

Yea, I suspect what happened was your high school coach missed the deadline to nominate players. There is also a limit to how many they can nominate, so maybe they just didn't want to be in a position of nominating some players over others.

Your area doesn't have tryouts for your school girls team? it's done by HS coach nominations?

On LI, you have to be nominated by your HS coach just to attend the tryouts. And then of course you must be selected. At least in theory, I couldn't say how closely this rule is actually followed.
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School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.

Yet historically all the top players make and attend this event. Some may miss the practice or two that the schoolgirls team has, but do play in the tournament.
How many teams are there? Do all the committed girls play together?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.

Yet historically all the top players make and attend this event. Some may miss the practice or two that the schoolgirls team has, but do play in the tournament.

School girls is a thing of the past. Don’t waste your time.
I guess your daughter wasn’t nominated or got cut.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.

Yet historically all the top players make and attend this event. Some may miss the practice or two that the schoolgirls team has, but do play in the tournament.

School girls is a thing of the past. Don’t waste your time.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.

Yet historically all the top players make and attend this event. Some may miss the practice or two that the schoolgirls team has, but do play in the tournament.

School girls is a thing of the past. Don’t waste your time.

I’d agree with this. The stronger players have too many other commitments to do this event and if they play for a strong Highschool program their coaches typically advise against them attending.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
School Girls is Ill timed for NY teams. Smack in the middle of HS playoffs. The strongest players have to be at practice and can’t risk injury.

Yet historically all the top players make and attend this event. Some may miss the practice or two that the schoolgirls team has, but do play in the tournament.

School girls is a thing of the past. Don’t waste your time.

I’d agree with this. The stronger players have too many other commitments to do this event and if they play for a strong Highschool program their coaches typically advise against them attending.

Yes, the LI tryouts were sparsely attended by top LI players. There were a few there, but not very many at all. I think they will have enough for one very good LI team, but definitely not 3! Being it’s on Memorial Day weekend, that stinks too! The NCAA championship live games will be there and it will be fun for the girls who go, to get to see the games. Not sure how much of a recruiting event it will be? No info. On what coaches will be attending.
And the 10 people that run girls travel lacrosse need to cash those checks. There are 6 teams in the 2024-2025 age group. Just call it a regular tournament and stop comparing it to UA. They are not the same.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone needs to realize kids may have other motives on doing these events other than just being the best player or on the best team. Some kids just want to enjoy the sport. Let them have fun and relax.

For the 3,000th time. It's not an event for that. This is not an event where everyone should be playing. UA and AS were made to be the best at their age group. Putting in three teams on Long Island negated that. All for money.

It's unfathomable parents can't see that without thinking its taking something away from their kid who is not one of the 20th best in their region. My son likes ice hockey. Should he be able to go play in the u16 World Juniors? Of course not.

If a kid loves the sport, that's great. If they aren't the best in their division, that's what travel is for. There is enough opportunities for everyone.

Nope. Everyone needs to get a trophy in this society.
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !

Not a valid point. If someone on UA roster got injured prior to their tournament, they would fill their spot with a waitlister as well. However, the only thing UA has on AS right now is that it's free. Oh and the fact that Long Island put three teams in it for a money grab. Just don't tell that to the parents on the C/Gray team. Ridiculous they were allowed to do that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !

Not a valid point. If someone on UA roster got injured prior to their tournament, they would fill their spot with a waitlister as well. However, the only thing UA has on AS right now is that it's free. Oh and the fact that Long Island put three teams in it for a money grab. Just don't tell that to the parents on the C/Gray team. Ridiculous they were allowed to do that.


My god another parent hung up on the C team/gray team.......if your daughter is on the A or B team then it really shouldnt matter to you....your daughter is probably going to get a flood of calls on Sept. 1st anyway....relax and stop letting it bother you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !

Not a valid point. If someone on UA roster got injured prior to their tournament, they would fill their spot with a waitlister as well. However, the only thing UA has on AS right now is that it's free. Oh and the fact that Long Island put three teams in it for a money grab. Just don't tell that to the parents on the C/Gray team. Ridiculous they were allowed to do that.


My god another parent hung up on the C team/gray team.......if your daughter is on the A or B team then it really shouldnt matter to you....your daughter is probably going to get a flood of calls on Sept. 1st anyway....relax and stop letting it bother you

In my opinion the issue with the less talent being brought in is the chest pounding dads and programs that are now pounding their chest that their kid made it. More annoying than anything but doesn’t truly hurt anyone… just our ears
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !

Not a valid point. If someone on UA roster got injured prior to their tournament, they would fill their spot with a waitlister as well. However, the only thing UA has on AS right now is that it's free. Oh and the fact that Long Island put three teams in it for a money grab. Just don't tell that to the parents on the C/Gray team. Ridiculous they were allowed to do that.


My god another parent hung up on the C team/gray team.......if your daughter is on the A or B team then it really shouldnt matter to you....your daughter is probably going to get a flood of calls on Sept. 1st anyway....relax and stop letting it bother you

My god Another parent who can’t see that people aren’t upset that someone’s daughter made the gray team but that the organization put in three teams to cheapen AS and make it a money grab. Which is what the post was about. There should be 1 team. That’s it.
There are not many girls that are going to get a “flood” of phone calls on Sept. 1 so I wouldn’t get your hopes up. The 2024 class is not that strong. The 2023 was probably one of the strongest classes in recent memory and less then 20 went to a top 10 school. Florida and Stony Brook almost took half of them.


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that about AS and it might come true. Seems to be the trend in American society. Never seen so many people willing to lie to themselves in an effort to turn something false into something fact.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Under Armour is still the barometer. 1 team. Free. AS May be the future but not yet.

Not true. Top girls from all regions are doing AS.

Why did American select come up with the idea of refund insurance ? They get tryout money and $60 from a family and then they fill
Her spot with another top fillin !

Not a valid point. If someone on UA roster got injured prior to their tournament, they would fill their spot with a waitlister as well. However, the only thing UA has on AS right now is that it's free. Oh and the fact that Long Island put three teams in it for a money grab. Just don't tell that to the parents on the C/Gray team. Ridiculous they were allowed to do that.


My god another parent hung up on the C team/gray team.......if your daughter is on the A or B team then it really shouldnt matter to you....your daughter is probably going to get a flood of calls on Sept. 1st anyway....relax and stop letting it bother you
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?
Right ! Because you have access to college coaches LOL, You sound more ridiculous each time you post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.

Summer genesis schedule is really bad...Bengals, 91, Kildare, O'Sullivan, & Jesters all really bad schedules for the skills of those teams. The directors really screwed that one up. Have a feeling there will be complaints and it will change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.

Summer genesis schedule is really bad...Bengals, 91, Kildare, O'Sullivan, & Jesters all really bad schedules for the skills of those teams. The directors really screwed that one up. Have a feeling there will be complaints and it will change.

There is always a tournament or two each year that misplaces teams. It’ll balance itself out eventually
There is always a tournament or two each year that misplaces teams. It’ll balance itself out eventually[/quote]

Directors request the level and approve the schedule before it’s released.

As for AS , 2nd team players in Md are turning down the invite. Next person with $500 is up though. People are jumping at the chance to pay to play this elite event.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.


Ramos's team is overrated. Always has been
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is always a tournament or two each year that misplaces teams. It’ll balance itself out eventually

Directors request the level and approve the schedule before it’s released.

As for AS , 2nd team players in Md are turning down the invite. Next person with $500 is up though. People are jumping at the chance to pay to play this elite event.[/quote]

The MD tryout was Sunday, and you already know the selections and who has turned down their offers?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Probably the best post on this thread yet. Finally someone with common sense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.

Summer genesis schedule is really bad...Bengals, 91, Kildare, O'Sullivan, & Jesters all really bad schedules for the skills of those teams. The directors really screwed that one up. Have a feeling there will be complaints and it will change.

They already did with the 2025 schedule. They pulled it back when they realized Spallina was playing in a bracket with teams they would've crushed. They changed it and put them in a more competitive schedule.
When do girls have to give their final answer for AS?
I believe Maryland girls had to register for American Select by last Thursday (May 19)
Seems ward melville had a klot of 24s on their roster. Seems all but two of them start and play the entire game. good for them!
I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.


Half right half completely wrong. Yes, UA150 is an application w highlight video and $600+. UA All America is a tryout and free. The biggest difference is UA150 mixes up kids from many different clubs on each UA150 team and UA All America has the regionally selected kids play for their regional team. Thus, UA All America kids generally play on their regional team with some kids they know. Less so with UA150. Most importantly, the recruiting information above is not correct. I was at UA150 last year and there were plenty of brand-name colleges represented on the sidelines. Finally, the suggestion that UA150 will not have the best kids is ridiculous. Don't take my word for it, just look at the posted rosters for the UA150 teams and what club team they play for. M&D Black, Skywalker's, Yellow Jackets etc on every team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.


Half right half completely wrong. Yes, UA150 is an application w highlight video and $600+. UA All America is a tryout and free. The biggest difference is UA150 mixes up kids from many different clubs on each UA150 team and UA All America has the regionally selected kids play for their regional team. Thus, UA All America kids generally play on their regional team with some kids they know. Less so with UA150. Most importantly, the recruiting information above is not correct. I was at UA150 last year and there were plenty of brand-name colleges represented on the sidelines. Finally, the suggestion that UA150 will not have the best kids is ridiculous. Don't take my word for it, just look at the posted rosters for the UA150 teams and what club team they play for. M&D Black, Skywalker's, Yellow Jackets etc on every team.

Love this forum. You got 1/4 right 3/4 completely wrong. You only got the regional aspect right. To the original poster not the guy who knows the UA 150 because he was there last year. take a look at the schools that are registered to go there THIS YEAR. There’s 30 teams. And only a handful of top teams as opposed of the more than hundred coaches that go to UA Underclass. Underclass is certainly better for recruiting. But if your kid is looking to go to a school out of that 30, of course it’s a good thing.

Also as for top talent just look at our region. Yes there are good players going from good teams which is why I said it is still a good tournament. But most of the top kids from the top teams are going to underclass and not UA150 as is such with my daughters team which is highly ranked. The top five kids are not going. Yes Maryland does attract more kids to this tournament. But not Ny or NJ. Why because YJ and Steps more invested into UA and Selects.
UA150 has A LOT of talent. It was extremely competitive this year and you see players from the strongest programs consistently represented. under Armour all American will most likely be most 23s and a few very talented 24s
Did the UA underclass tryouts already happen for Ling Island ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the UA underclass tryouts already happen for Ling Island ?

No. June 13 and 14.
Interesting top 75 sophomores list.
Might want to check the starting lineup’s of the
Playoff games. You left a lot of starters out but
Plenty of kids who dont play are on the list.
Might also want to check last years all conference all
County honors or wait until this years are out. Just
A thought.
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Sounds like sour grapes. Maybe better luck next time?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting top 75 sophomores list.
Might want to check the starting lineup’s of the
Playoff games. You left a lot of starters out but
Plenty of kids who dont play are on the list.
Might also want to check last years all conference all
County honors or wait until this years are out. Just
A thought.

Don’t cry that your daughter is not on the list. Just because you’re on the field doesn’t mean you do much. Work harder…maybe next year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire
Game are missing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire
Game are missing.

Clearly someone is hurt their kid isn’t represented. Have them work harder this year and next year maybe their name will be there! It’s just a list, don’t be so stressed
Also let’s be honest coaches who have kids on their varsity team nominate their kid and their kids friends for county awards. All of it is political
Ok here’s the deal: the list has kids from the top programs- YJ, Legacy, Jesters, Top Guns, and Liberty. How some of the kids on those teams may not be on varsity or may not play due to the towns makeup. If you play for a town with a heavy senior and junior class, thst has really strong kids in those classes, your kid may end up not getting a varsity spot due to numbers and a heavy 22/23 class of kids recruited to top schools. If you play for a town team like Manhasset but made varsity you may not see field time because you have insane players who are upperclassman running the field and next year will be your year. There is a lot that goes into making varsity or getting town team playing time. If you play for a town like middle country or Plainedge that aren’t as strong, your 24 is likely getting more playing time. A player being a top player isn’t just defined by their stats in their Highschool season.

If you are unhappy about the list, make it a lesson for your kids to work harder to achieve more rather than using your excuses as a parent to make them feel like they should get a trophy too.

In terms of awards for towns a lot of this is favorites. Your towns coach puts you up for it, usually their kids, their kids friends, their club player usually and then they get a yes or no by other teams. It isn’t represtative of non political reasons either
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting top 75 sophomores list.
Might want to check the starting lineup’s of the
Playoff games. You left a lot of starters out but
Plenty of kids who dont play are on the list.
Might also want to check last years all conference all
County honors or wait until this years are out. Just
A thought.

Don’t cry that your daughter is not on the list. Just because you’re on the field doesn’t mean you do much. Work harder…maybe next year?

Do yourself a favor and look at the list and see how many weren't even on varsity and some that had 1 or 2 goals for the year. Yes keep telling yourself your daughter deserved it. Total Joke this list is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire

Game are missing.

Clearly someone is hurt their kid isn’t represented. Have them work harder this year and next year maybe their name will be there! It’s just a list, don’t be so stressed

If you’re a starter on a team in the top conference
As a sophomore
I would think you should be on the list. That said
At least most of them will be getting all conference or
All county. That’s what matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire

Game are missing.

Clearly someone is hurt their kid isn’t represented. Have them work harder this year and next year maybe their name will be there! It’s just a list, don’t be so stressed

No! I agree, The list is terrible. It’s so bad, who makes these?. They got about 50% right. The HMs are way better than some on the list by far! No, my daughter not HM but I know all the girls on that list.

If you’re a starter on a team in the top conference
As a sophomore
I would think you should be on the list. That said
At least most of them will be getting all conference or
All county. That’s what matters.

While I do not think the list is terrible, I will say there is a key name I didn’t see that was put in honorable mention. Top player on Manhasset and didn’t make the list. If you’re a Sophmore starting and contributing to a team like Manhasset, yes of course. It you’re a Sophmore who had a few goals for Calhoun, Long Beach, MC, Miller place, port Washington, mt Sinai, farmingdale etc you’re more middle of the barrel in my opinion.

The kids from schools like ward Melville, north port, Manhasset, Massapequa who are sophomores who truly contributed I agree belong. A great example of a town well represented o this list is ward Melville’s 24s. The top 24s on ward Melville made the list. The only key one I was shocked at was the Manhasset kid but it seems they recognized that and threw her on any way they could.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire

Game are missing.

Clearly someone is hurt their kid isn’t represented. Have them work harder this year and next year maybe their name will be there! It’s just a list, don’t be so stressed

No! I agree, The list is terrible. It’s so bad, who makes these?. They got about 50% right. The HMs are way better than some on the list by far! No, my daughter not HM but I know all the girls on that list.

If you’re a starter on a team in the top conference
As a sophomore
I would think you should be on the list. That said
At least most of them will be getting all conference or
All county. That’s what matters.

Actually, what matters is the college coaches lists.... the rest of the lists and accolades do not matter at all. College coaches will be watching all summer and they will let everybody know how the players stack up starting on September 1st. The top players will know where they stand long before September 1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

Seriously. At least take the time to look at who actually
Plays for the top teams. Check the starters for the
County semis. You’ll find you’ve got kids on the list
Who didn’t play a minute and kids who played the entire

Game are missing.

Clearly someone is hurt their kid isn’t represented. Have them work harder this year and next year maybe their name will be there! It’s just a list, don’t be so stressed

No! I agree, The list is terrible. It’s so bad, who makes these?. They got about 50% right. The HMs are way better than some on the list by far! No, my daughter not HM but I know all the girls on that list.

If you’re a starter on a team in the top conference
As a sophomore
I would think you should be on the list. That said
At least most of them will be getting all conference or
All county. That’s what matters.

Actually, what matters is the college coaches lists.... the rest of the lists and accolades do not matter at all. College coaches will be watching all summer and they will let everybody know how the players stack up starting on September 1st. The top players will know where they stand long before September 1.

I think that the lists more than anything show the top clubs on the island. A lot of YJ, Legacy, Jesters, Top guns consistently on these lists, making showcase teams, and being publicized. It speaks to the strength of the organization and its players even if a few get left off by mistake it definitely is showing where the power players are coming from.
Ok chest pounding dads it's obvious club affiliation helped this list as usual. There are 7 offensive spots in the field that stats are kept for and can help justify to an extent on making a list like this. If you are a " Top Sophomore " you should be able to contribute to your varsity team regardless of what team you are on. It's obvious, if you take the time and check, a lot of these girls did little to nothing on varsity and some weren't even on varsity. Once again just having certain letters on your club jersey was enough to get BS accolades.
Same parents complaining about everything- lilj list and managed to get their kids added after it was already posted, AS, UA150, and the list goes on. If your kid doesn’t get picked, move on. It doesn’t warrant craziness
There are many sophs in Conference 1 in Nassau who are starters and valuable contributors (30+ points on the season) who are not on the “list”. I am positive there are many sophs in other conferences that are deserving as well. Maybe the lesson here is to help them ignore the “lists” and social media hype and become a better player and a better teammate. Every game. Moving forward…no one will remember these “lists”, teach them to control what they can control. So much going on right now….the last thing these kids need to worry about is if the make a Top Whatever “list”. Congratulations to the ones who are on it. Happy Memorial Day and thank you for all who serve and who have served.
Great post brother !!!! The exact point I think should be drilled home !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are many sophs in Conference 1 in Nassau who are starters and valuable contributors (30+ points on the season) who are not on the “list”. I am positive there are many sophs in other conferences that are deserving as well. Maybe the lesson here is to help them ignore the “lists” and social media hype and become a better player and a better teammate. Every game. Moving forward…no one will remember these “lists”, teach them to control what they can control. So much going on right now….the last thing these kids need to worry about is if the make a Top Whatever “list”. Congratulations to the ones who are on it. Happy Memorial Day and thank you for all who serve and who have served.

^^^^^^^^ That! 👏👏👏👏
While i don’t want to take away from those on the list. I promise you college coaches don’t rely on these lists at all. would you??
I mean honestly some of the girls missing on here makes it comical. LB middie not on her; top 15 middie in conf 1.
#15 and #26 on SS; both top producers in conf 1.
Again, lists are subjective but if you are going to make them; do your HW. Ask the coaches.
I am not saying you have to be in conf 1 to be listed but if you have 35 points in conf 1 than you prob have 60 in 2 and should be on here. As far as Suffolk; definitely a few girls that are missing that should be in top 50.
It is what it is. Keep working.
Good luck to all the 24’s this summer and let the snub motivate those not listed that feel they should.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are many sophs in Conference 1 in Nassau who are starters and valuable contributors (30+ points on the season) who are not on the “list”. I am positive there are many sophs in other conferences that are deserving as well. Maybe the lesson here is to help them ignore the “lists” and social media hype and become a better player and a better teammate. Every game. Moving forward…no one will remember these “lists”, teach them to control what they can control. So much going on right now….the last thing these kids need to worry about is if the make a Top Whatever “list”. Congratulations to the ones who are on it. Happy Memorial Day and thank you for all who serve and who have served.


I think the lists are great because it’s something to work towards and for the kids selected it definitely is a good ego boost going into the summer to play with confidence. Of course the focus should always be on being a good player, but being a part of these showcase teams and such is always an honor even if sometimes some slip through the cracks.

You can also say teach them not to get excited over them, but let’s be honest here any coach kid parent whose kid is chosen is going to be proud and celebrate that kid as they should!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While i don’t want to take away from those on the list. I promise you college coaches don’t rely on these lists at all. would you??
I mean honestly some of the girls missing on here makes it comical. LB middie not on her; top 15 middie in conf 1.
#15 and #26 on SS; both top producers in conf 1.
Again, lists are subjective but if you are going to make them; do your HW. Ask the coaches.
I am not saying you have to be in conf 1 to be listed but if you have 35 points in conf 1 than you prob have 60 in 2 and should be on here. As far as Suffolk; definitely a few girls that are missing that should be in top 50.
It is what it is. Keep working.
Good luck to all the 24’s this summer and let the snub motivate those not listed that feel they should.

Agree, if these list are going to be made they need to do a little more homework and Speak with coaches from club and HS teams.

They can start narrowing from there by knowing who the best club teams are and how school games/divisions/stats are going for the year. Definitely, a little more homework needs to be done to get a more accurate list. I say it’s about 50% accurate. With that said, I don’t feel any college coach takes the local list too seriously? They make their own list!
It's pretty obvious this list was made up almost entirely from club director input, and it's pretty hard for a club to promote B and C team players over A team players. That's most of the misses right there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's pretty obvious this list was made up almost entirely from club director input, and it's pretty hard for a club to promote B and C team players over A team players. That's most of the misses right there.

If you are on a clubs B or C team, even if youre a good player they likely cant recommend you as top 75 if they have 20 other kids who are by default better than you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right ! Because you have access to college coaches LOL, You sound more ridiculous each time you post.

You have no clue what people have access to, keep living in la la lax land.
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO
Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO

Calm down weak conference dad! You should be way more worried about which college coaches list your daughter will be on at the end of the summer, not BOTC! May will be in for a very rude awakening!
She clearly deserved to make especially more so than the kid who did make it from that team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO

Agree! Don’t get caught up in this local list stuff. Not enough depth in the research in the making of it!
Agree - these girls deserve better. If your going to put a list out do some research. My daughter has been on these lists like these and also has been left off. I think most people just want it to be a fair evaluation of talent. We all know that this list has no weight with college coaches but I would be lying if I said that it doesn’t for the girls who are putting in the work and are at top programs (school and club) that are left off because of all the reasons people have listed in other posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO
Calling section xi class c “weak” shows how clueless you are. It’s laughable.
In all fairness, the amount of goals a player gets should not be the only reason a player is given an award. It feeds into the "ball hogging" mentality and not a team mentality.
There are many key players who do not score based on the position they play on the field but without them there would not be opportunities to score.
MD rosters for both UA and AS are posted. Interesting names on both rosters. Plenty of spots for girls to get in front of coaches despite the cost of AS. Good luck to them all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree - these girls deserve better. If your going to put a list out do some research. My daughter has been on these lists like these and also has been left off. I think most people just want it to be a fair evaluation of talent. We all know that this list has no weight with college coaches but I would be lying if I said that it doesn’t for the girls who are putting in the work and are at top programs (school and club) that are left off because of all the reasons people have listed in other posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO

Well said !!!!! All we want is fairness and not butt kissing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree - these girls deserve better. If your going to put a list out do some research. My daughter has been on these lists like these and also has been left off. I think most people just want it to be a fair evaluation of talent. We all know that this list has no weight with college coaches but I would be lying if I said that it doesn’t for the girls who are putting in the work and are at top programs (school and club) that are left off because of all the reasons people have listed in other posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO

Well said !!!!! All we want is fairness and not butt kissing

How is there any butt kissing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MD rosters for both UA and AS are posted. Interesting names on both rosters. Plenty of spots for girls to get in front of coaches despite the cost of AS. Good luck to them all.

Yeah cause they won’t be in front of coaches in June and July.
Can the group bickering over HIGH SCHOOL awards please take their grievances to the HIGH SCHOOL forum? Thanks in advance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree - these girls deserve better. If your going to put a list out do some research. My daughter has been on these lists like these and also has been left off. I think most people just want it to be a fair evaluation of talent. We all know that this list has no weight with college coaches but I would be lying if I said that it doesn’t for the girls who are putting in the work and are at top programs (school and club) that are left off because of all the reasons people have listed in other posts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
-The leading scorer (32g 23a) on the 4th seeded team in Suffolk Class C doesn't make the list
AND
-There are kids that had 1 or 2 goals or barely saw the field on the list

The list has ZERO credibility... ZERO

Well said !!!!! All we want is fairness and not butt kissing

How is there any butt kissing?

There isn't...just trying to lick their wounds by blaming everyone else.
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
I really want to say something about this, but they are still children.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids

If you want to see what parents or coaches are really crazy, go screenshot the list and keep the original verses where it ends up. The pre season one there was one travel team with maybe 1-2 of their players on it. Within 48 hours, half their roster was added. Too funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids


Lol, looks like every girl who plays lacrosse is on that list. What are we watching for? Why bother making a list like that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

JV SA kids are prob. much better than more than 3/4 of the Varsity players on other teams! Wait until next year and yiu will see. They totally belong in that list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

JV SA kids are prob. much better than more than 3/4 of the Varsity players on other teams! Wait until next year and yiu will see. They totally belong in that list.

True but still not better than the 8 to 10 freshmen and sophomores on St Anthonys varsity every year. Playing time definitely going to be an issue for those girls moving forward. May want to reevaluate that $13,000 tuition you keep paying to an average academic catholic school if your kid is not going to get on the field. That public school you look down on so much may be a better option.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

Lol, you’re delusional
Oh boy here we go.
Must be .ill pounding his chest again. Try getting playing time first.
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!
There are not 8-10 freshman/sophomores on SA varsity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

JV SA kids are prob. much better than more than 3/4 of the Varsity players on other teams! Wait until next year and yiu will see. They totally belong in that list.

True but still not better than the 8 to 10 freshmen and sophomores on St Anthonys varsity every year. Playing time definitely going to be an issue for those girls moving forward. May want to reevaluate that $13,000 tuition you keep paying to an average academic catholic school if your kid is not going to get on the field. That public school you look down on so much may be a better option.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

Lol, you’re delusional

JV come on. Lets keep it classy here folks and talk varsity only. It is time to think clearly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

JV SA kids are prob. much better than more than 3/4 of the Varsity players on other teams! Wait until next year and yiu will see. They totally belong in that list.

True but still not better than the 8 to 10 freshmen and sophomores on St Anthonys varsity every year. Playing time definitely going to be an issue for those girls moving forward. May want to reevaluate that $13,000 tuition you keep paying to an average academic catholic school if your kid is not going to get on the field. That public school you look down on so much may be a better option.

Since when were there 8 to 10 freshman and Sophmores on that Varsity team? More like 4 or 5 tops, and hardly ever a Freshman. I Don’t believe any Freshman this year? They have a lot of talent coming up and it will continue to be a very good team. True, if kids are not going to play on Varsity when they get to Varsity, maybe should re-evaluate the situation?
Looks like coach's kid chose AS over UA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like coach's kid chose AS over UA.

UA tryouts didn’t happen yet and coaches kid probably wouldn’t have made that team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like coach's kid chose AS over UA.

UA tryouts didn’t happen yet and coaches kid probably wouldn’t have made that team
North Carolina coach whose daughter plays for MD Black
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

Lol, you’re delusional

JV come on. Lets keep it classy here folks and talk varsity only. It is time to think clearly.

Hey Varsity parent who’s kid is prob. On A weak team that has no players to choose from? JV players in some of the top Lacrosse athletic HS programs like a SA , is prob. Way better than your varsity player on a terrible team. Sorry, not sorry. You should think clearly and realize it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Their JV would most likely beat your varsity! They had an amazing JV team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A post season watchlist with yet more Jv kids
Next time you should just call them out by name. Depends on what JV kids your talking about. JV SA kids are better then some varsity players at public schools.

Lol, you’re delusional

JV come on. Lets keep it classy here folks and talk varsity only. It is time to think clearly.

Hey Varsity parent who’s kid is prob. On A weak team that has no players to choose from? JV players in some of the top Lacrosse athletic HS programs like a SA , is prob. Way better than your varsity player on a terrible team. Sorry, not sorry. You should think clearly and realize it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Their JV would most likely beat your varsity! They had an amazing JV team.

Lol, you sound like a really insecure bully. Plenty of HS programs on LI are equal in talent to St. A with the commit lists to prove it. All that and the girls get to play for their own HS which more than likely offers a far superior education. My daughter goes to a very good public HS, and had her pick of colleges. You do realize that college coaches don’t care about HS ball, they recruit from club and showcases. If you think the St. A JV team beats most HS varsity teams, you a truly delusional.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

I don't have a problem with the HS Coaches but absolutely shouldn't be parents as coaches. IE Spallina should be able to coach if he wants, just not his daughter's year, which he does. His daughter is an excellent player, but he shouldn't be able to coach her. Just my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

I don't have a problem with the HS Coaches but absolutely shouldn't be parents as coaches. IE Spallina should be able to coach if he wants, just not his daughter's year, which he does. His daughter is an excellent player, but he shouldn't be able to coach her. Just my opinion.

YJ Spalina?? Up until this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

I don't have a problem with the HS Coaches but absolutely shouldn't be parents as coaches. IE Spallina should be able to coach if he wants, just not his daughter's year, which he does. His daughter is an excellent player, but he shouldn't be able to coach her. Just my opinion.

It is an issue when girls from certain towns feel like they have to play for certain clubs in order to play in HS! Wrong!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

I don't have a problem with the HS Coaches but absolutely shouldn't be parents as coaches. IE Spallina should be able to coach if he wants, just not his daughter's year, which he does. His daughter is an excellent player, but he shouldn't be able to coach her. Just my opinion.

It is an issue when girls from certain towns feel like they have to play for certain clubs in order to play in HS! Wrong!!

Disagree
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

I don't have a problem with the HS Coaches but absolutely shouldn't be parents as coaches. IE Spallina should be able to coach if he wants, just not his daughter's year, which he does. His daughter is an excellent player, but he shouldn't be able to coach her. Just my opinion.

It is an issue when girls from certain towns feel like they have to play for certain clubs in order to play in HS! Wrong!!

Disagree

So, you disagree that girls feel like they would need to play for HS coaches club? Doesn’t that happen in towns now?
It is an issue when girls from certain towns feel like they have to play for certain clubs in order to play in HS! Wrong!![/quote]

Disagree[/quote]

So, you disagree that girls feel like they would need to play for HS coaches club? Doesn’t that happen in towns now?[/quote]

It happens in some places and its a little ugly. I think most Varsity Coaches just want their kids playing no-matter the club
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!
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So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!

Agree 100%
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So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!

Agreed. Hit them where it hurts and don’t sign up for tournaments. Including Md Cup which is played at same locations.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!

Agreed. Hit them where it hurts and don’t sign up for tournaments. Including Md Cup which is played at same locations.

Fields were fine and no rain! Craziness
Tough weekend for liberty going 0-3
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So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!

How about the kids that actually took a flight in to play two games.
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Tough weekend for liberty going 0-3

And top guns in a very bad bracket ? Why go to a tournament to play teams you’re going to beat by ten?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.
Its the Operators fault! They should have this nonsense covered in their vendor contracts. Fields were perfectly fine. Last years school girls event had twice the moisture and they played without issue. The average family spends well over a grand in travel expenses to attend these events. The fields were not clearly marked, no scorers at some of the games. TOB is a 3rd rate operation that looks like they have spread themselves a little too thin. They should be sending out apology letters along with a $25 gift card to every family that did not get their 4 games in. I mean seriously, they could not have offered some compensation to help repair the fields that would have made sense if indeed the rain met the threshold for canceling games. I can't fully express my disappointment leaving at 10 AM and driving home on a beautiful sunny day because of weather. Total Farce!
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Its the Operators fault! They should have this nonsense covered in their vendor contracts. Fields were perfectly fine. Last years school girls event had twice the moisture and they played without issue. The average family spends well over a grand in travel expenses to attend these events. The fields were not clearly marked, no scorers at some of the games. TOB is a 3rd rate operation that looks like they have spread themselves a little too thin. They should be sending out apology letters along with a $25 gift card to every family that did not get their 4 games in. I mean seriously, they could not have offered some compensation to help repair the fields that would have made sense if indeed the rain met the threshold for canceling games. I can't fully express my disappointment leaving at 10 AM and driving home on a beautiful sunny day because of weather. Total Farce!




Agreed 100% It’s just unbelievable. Especially for recruiting age girls who have worked their buts off to be seen. An opportunity they can never get back. And the organizers could care less.
Personally I thought the fields were terrible. Kids were sliding all over the place. Maybe they dried out towards the end of the morning when they cancelled the games but kids were slipping everywhere at the Fields they were at. Do I feel about it for the girls getting a game cut? Of course I do but honestly there was a good risk of an injury happening.
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Personally I thought the fields were terrible. Kids were sliding all over the place. Maybe they dried out towards the end of the morning when they cancelled the games but kids were slipping everywhere at the Fields they were at. Do I feel about it for the girls getting a game cut? Of course I do but honestly there was a good risk of an injury happening.

Please stop. Same garbage every year. If you’re worried about injuries, tournament directors should open their wallet and get a different venue like Delaware turf fields. Oh yeah, that’s right, the only thing they care about is padding their pockets. Lazy and greedy sums it up!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.

Last year black and pink had the same coaches they have now but jesters added a female coach to the staff of both teams. Not sure if the dad head coach is still there or still a problem how he was last year. kids and their parents on our team who played for him last year said he was only about his kid and benched good players kall summer. Id assume that that the new coach was brought in to stop some of the parent coach complaints but these are sophomores there is no way that you can completely fix toxic parent coaching unless the coach is removed.

last year pride b team lost all games. Didn’t win a single one, but is doing better this year? Skies the limit when you go from losing 18/18 games
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tough weekend for liberty going 0-3

And top guns in a very bad bracket ? Why go to a tournament to play teams you’re going to beat by ten?

So top guns needed a higher bracket and liberty a lower one? I’d argue Kildare needed a lower one as well
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.

How frustrating is that?!???
You pay all this money to play travel lacrosse and you have to be coached by a dad head coach.
Then you travel to Md and the game gets cancelled so that they can preserve the fields??!?
Driving all over creation and dropping serious $$$ for our kids in a recruiting year and people making $$$ on us not doing the right thing.
These people are making serious profit on all of us so this doesn’t land well.
Sorry Gordon Gekko,,,
GREED IS NOT GOOD!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.

How frustrating is that?!???
You pay all this money to play travel lacrosse and you have to be coached by a dad head coach.
Then you travel to Md and the game gets cancelled so that they can preserve the fields??!?
Driving all over creation and dropping serious $$$ for our kids in a recruiting year and people making $$$ on us not doing the right thing.
These people are making serious profit on all of us so this doesn’t land well.
Sorry Gordon Gekko,,,
GREED IS NOT GOOD!!!

The calvert fields were trashed but the cedar were not
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Personally I thought the fields were terrible. Kids were sliding all over the place. Maybe they dried out towards the end of the morning when they cancelled the games but kids were slipping everywhere at the Fields they were at. Do I feel about it for the girls getting a game cut? Of course I do but honestly there was a good risk of an injury happening.

Please stop. Same garbage every year. If you’re worried about injuries, tournament directors should open their wallet and get a different venue like Delaware turf fields. Oh yeah, that’s right, the only thing they care about is padding their pockets. Lazy and greedy sums it up!

If directors are going to run a tournament of this size , they need to step up and get the turf facilities!
Good thing your not the tourney director because it sounds like you may think they should have canceled the whole tournament because the fields were worse on Saturday than Sunday. Maybe we were at different locations but kids play and slip on wet muddy fields all the time, its part of the game.
TG will play the hardest schedule of any NY team this weekend.
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TG will play the hardest schedule of any NY team this weekend.

Doubt that
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 24 pink seems to be doing much better this year! Wonder what the change was but was happy to see Long Island being represented well!

Third coach added, new to program, and a handful of new kids. Many kids left after an incident last year when the c and b team merged, but it seems like the club was able to replace the kids that left and add in a coach to shake things up.

Jesters pink/pride lost all 18 games they played in 2020-2021 season. Anything has to be an improvement from that.

Agreed they were awful. I think it’s the same dad head coach though. He was coaching this weekend.

How frustrating is that?!???
You pay all this money to play travel lacrosse and you have to be coached by a dad head coach.
Then you travel to Md and the game gets cancelled so that they can preserve the fields??!?
Driving all over creation and dropping serious $$$ for our kids in a recruiting year and people making $$$ on us not doing the right thing.
These people are making serious profit on all of us so this doesn’t land well.
Sorry Gordon Gekko,,,
GREED IS NOT GOOD!!!

The calvert fields were trashed but the cedar were not

With the exception of field 1, 2, and 2B, Calvert fields would have been more than playable in the afternoon.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

Good point. Most states do not allow a high school coach to coach their players in club -- if you did in CT or NJ, players would lose eligibility. NY is one of the few that do.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.

You are delusional and might be blindsided on Sept. 1. Doesn’t seem like you know much about the recruiting process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!

Good point. Most states do not allow a high school coach to coach their players in club -- if you did in CT or NJ, players would lose eligibility. NY is one of the few that do.

Doesn’t the Darien coach also coach her players with the Grizzlies ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!
You are living in fantasy land. Who coaches then if no parents or high school coaches. A young coach that wants less than $10 an hour to work with crazy parents?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.

You are delusional and might be blindsided on Sept. 1. Doesn’t seem like you know much about the recruiting process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.

You are delusional and might be blindsided on Sept. 1. Doesn’t seem like you know much about the recruiting process.

We already know who is recruiting our daughter and they came to watch her. Her offre will depend much more on prospect days than these tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.

Partially agree.

For top girls who are under armor or UA150 and already on top schools radar, summer club play is of minimal importance. But for backups or girls who aren’t clear stars, these games are important.

Remember the recruiting lists for non top 20 teams are much more fluid than the big schools.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Live Love Lax canceling games because “they don’t want to mess up the fields”. I think this is terrible planning. Families spend tremendous money and time to attend these important recruiting events. So many girls have missed opportunities. A shame!


stinks that games were cancelled when they didn't have to be. However, the role of summer tourneys for 24s is vastly overrated.

If you played for YJ, TG or another top club and aren't on D1 coaches radar already, news flash-- you won't. Coaches are just going to see girls who they are already tracking. It is very rare for a kid to get on a coach's radar at this point.

For example at LLL last weekend, our (YJ Weiner) most attended game by coaches was our 2nd one --a blowout win over an Ohio team. Apparently, lots of those coaches were there to see the Ohio goalie. (who i admit was outstanding).

The other coaches were there to see girls on our team who they had already seen multiple times.

You are delusional and might be blindsided on Sept. 1. Doesn’t seem like you know much about the recruiting process.


I am not the delusional one homeslice. If you had been through the process before, you would know that they are few suprises on September 1st. Coaches are talking to club directors/recruiting coordinators constantly about the girls they are interested in.

At you have a 24 and don't know who is recruiting her at this point in the cycle, NEWS FLASH-- no one is.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Heard new WM coach already taking a job with YJ, can anyone confirm?

And the filtering of kids into YJ begins I guess WM being a legacy group is not long for the world

That’s an interesting business tactic, and brilliant. Hire the HS coaches from the top HS teams and you will pull the girls from that town to the club.

I always feel there is conflict of interest with HS coaches coaching the club teams. I think they will obviously favor their HS players as they have a relationship? I think their should be no parents coaching their own kids and no HS coaches with kids on the team!
You are living in fantasy land. Who coaches then if no parents or high school coaches. A young coach that wants less than $10 an hour to work with crazy parents?

There are a few coaches who will do it because they love the sport. Those are typically the coaches that put the most work in and are the most fair. If you have a non-parent coach, treat them right because they really are making below minimum wage as stated by the previous poster to deal with more than many sane people would.
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Finally an informative post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Finally an informative post.

If your daughter has been looking into top programs or high academic schools those schools would have been reaching out to club directors and coaches after the fall. It would be very surprising if those top academic and athletic schools reached out to kids they haven’t seen before this summer. College coaches will also tell coaches and directors if they don’t see a kid as a good fit.
What’s the difference between 203/2024 command and 23/24 spotlight for Ua?
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What’s the difference between 203/2024 command and 23/24 spotlight for Ua?

Command is 2025/2026
Highlight is 2023/2024

Spotlight is 2024 only
I think we all agree that girls should have gotten feedback of some sort after the fall, but to say there is no opportunity to be seen by those programs this summer and get put on their list is what the argument is about. There is a reason AS sidelines were filled with coaches for the 23's last year. They were still looking and evaluating at the end of July. Keep in mind, girls also fall off those list in the summer, so "interest" only goes so far. 9/1 is when you really know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Finally an informative post.

If your daughter has been looking into top programs or high academic schools those schools would have been reaching out to club directors and coaches after the fall. It would be very surprising if those top academic and athletic schools reached out to kids they haven’t seen before this summer. College coaches will also tell coaches and directors if they don’t see a kid as a good fit.

You sound silly. Many girls don’t even play in the fall. Now is the prime time for list making! And it will continue throughout July
The whole reason for the Sept 1 rule is so coaches can feel better about making offers with more information. It used to be winter of freshman year or earlier the commitments would start, before a girl played any high school lacrosse. There have been discussions between clubs and coaches, but please stop with the coaches lists are complete. The top coaches want to snap up the top players as soon as they can, but nothing is written in stone regarding recruiting!! The sidelines are full of coaches at the 2024's games all summer as correctly stated in a previous post. There have been discussion and lists made, but coaches trust their eyes and any girl can show up this summer and show coaches where they rank today, good luck to all!
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I think we all agree that girls should have gotten feedback of some sort after the fall, but to say there is no opportunity to be seen by those programs this summer and get put on their list is what the argument is about. There is a reason AS sidelines were filled with coaches for the 23's last year. They were still looking and evaluating at the end of July. Keep in mind, girls also fall off those list in the summer, so "interest" only goes so far. 9/1 is when you really know.

I made the original post and i should have clarified a bit. I was referred to top 25 schools and Ivies. Lower tier schools are still adding to their recruiting lists.

The broader point, though, is if you haven't heard from anyone, you are likely targeting your search too high.
Again the argument is you seem to be stating girls cannot be added to a schools list. My older daughter plays for a top 25, not top 10. That school did not express interest on her to her club that summer but called on 9/1. On her visit the coach said she caught her eye at Lax 4 Cure, and she watched her again at G8 & Mid Atlantic. I will also add that 2 schools that were interested never reached out on 9/1, so I guess she dropped off those schools lists. It is frustrating but it is the process. It is very easy to get stressed out but our daughters can sense that and they get stressed out, so try to stay positive but also realistic. I do agree with the above poster that if you have not been getting any feedback, your daughter may need to adjust her list
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think we all agree that girls should have gotten feedback of some sort after the fall, but to say there is no opportunity to be seen by those programs this summer and get put on their list is what the argument is about. There is a reason AS sidelines were filled with coaches for the 23's last year. They were still looking and evaluating at the end of July. Keep in mind, girls also fall off those list in the summer, so "interest" only goes so far. 9/1 is when you really know.

I made the original post and i should have clarified a bit. I was referred to top 25 schools and Ivies. Lower tier schools are still adding to their recruiting lists.

The broader point, though, is if you haven't heard from anyone, you are likely targeting your search too high.

Why do you lump "Top 25" AND Ivy's together?

Do you really think that Top Lacrosse Programs and Ivy's are done with their lists?

Do you really think that "lower tier" whatever that means are the only programs still making their lists?

It does not appear that you have much knowledge about how the recruiting process works.

Do you realize that a very small number of players from Long Island will receive offers from Top Lacrosse Programs or from any of the Ivy's. Maybe 20 - 25 from Top Programs (Princeton & Penn are Top Programs) and maybe 6 - 8 if that many total from the Ivy's.

Very few kids will receive offers early in the process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Again the argument is you seem to be stating girls cannot be added to a schools list. My older daughter plays for a top 25, not top 10. That school did not express interest on her to her club that summer but called on 9/1. On her visit the coach said she caught her eye at Lax 4 Cure, and she watched her again at G8 & Mid Atlantic. I will also add that 2 schools that were interested never reached out on 9/1, so I guess she dropped off those schools lists. It is frustrating but it is the process. It is very easy to get stressed out but our daughters can sense that and they get stressed out, so try to stay positive but also realistic. I do agree with the above poster that if you have not been getting any feedback, your daughter may need to adjust her list


Another informative post. That’s two on this forum in one day. That’s gotta be a record.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Experiences vary so much from player to player, but I think this post provides a good idea of what it looks like. My daughter has received communication through our club coaches about various D1 programs watching her. She had her first D2 school reach out to her today and we've had numerous D3's reach out late spring. All of these have seen her play and we are still in the evaluation period.

Unless you're a high level recruit on the offensive side, you probably aren't seeing a ton of activity just yet. However, I wouldn't sweat it, as one of our 23's didn't receive contact until mid October from a decent D1 school, which she eventually committed to.

Zero reason to panic, just tell your daughters to play hard and have fun. It's better to enjoy the ride and don't build up any anxiety--it's not worth it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Experiences vary so much from player to player, but I think this post provides a good idea of what it looks like. My daughter has received communication through our club coaches about various D1 programs watching her. She had her first D2 school reach out to her today and we've had numerous D3's reach out late spring. All of these have seen her play and we are still in the evaluation period.

Unless you're a high level recruit on the offensive side, you probably aren't seeing a ton of activity just yet. However, I wouldn't sweat it, as one of our 23's didn't receive contact until mid October from a decent D1 school, which she eventually committed to.

Zero reason to panic, just tell your daughters to play hard and have fun. It's better to enjoy the ride and don't build up any anxiety--it's not worth it.


Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!

On another note so many 24s were not taken for the 50 kid call back for under Armour last night. It was interesting to listen to some that didn’t make it sit in the stands and hear their dad complain how they were better than the girls with coaches sitting in the stands next to them. 48 hours until the list should be published! Good luck to all 24s who made call backs.
Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!

On another note so many 24s were not taken for the 50 kid call back for under Armour last night. It was interesting to listen to some that didn’t make it sit in the stands and hear their dad complain how they were better than the girls with coaches sitting in the stands next to them. 48 hours until the list should be published! Good luck to all 24s who made call backs.[/quote]

Good to know. Eavesdropping on your forum to get some info for next year. So even though they know she wants to go d1 they still call.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!

On another note so many 24s were not taken for the 50 kid call back for under Armour last night. It was interesting to listen to some that didn’t make it sit in the stands and hear their dad complain how they were better than the girls with coaches sitting in the stands next to them. 48 hours until the list should be published! Good luck to all 24s who made call backs.

Good to know. Eavesdropping on your forum to get some info for next year. So even though they know she wants to go d1 they still call.[/quote]

Yes!! Where is the list?? It has been decided since yesterday!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Experiences vary so much from player to player, but I think this post provides a good idea of what it looks like. My daughter has received communication through our club coaches about various D1 programs watching her. She had her first D2 school reach out to her today and we've had numerous D3's reach out late spring. All of these have seen her play and we are still in the evaluation period.

Unless you're a high level recruit on the offensive side, you probably aren't seeing a ton of activity just yet. However, I wouldn't sweat it, as one of our 23's didn't receive contact until mid October from a decent D1 school, which she eventually committed to.

Zero reason to panic, just tell your daughters to play hard and have fun. It's better to enjoy the ride and don't build up any anxiety--it's not worth it.


Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!
Schools will call if they feel they can win a recruiting battle. They must feel she’s not a top d1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Experiences vary so much from player to player, but I think this post provides a good idea of what it looks like. My daughter has received communication through our club coaches about various D1 programs watching her. She had her first D2 school reach out to her today and we've had numerous D3's reach out late spring. All of these have seen her play and we are still in the evaluation period.

Unless you're a high level recruit on the offensive side, you probably aren't seeing a ton of activity just yet. However, I wouldn't sweat it, as one of our 23's didn't receive contact until mid October from a decent D1 school, which she eventually committed to.

Zero reason to panic, just tell your daughters to play hard and have fun. It's better to enjoy the ride and don't build up any anxiety--it's not worth it.


Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!
Schools will call if they feel they can win a recruiting battle. They must feel she’s not a top d1.

I don’t think that’s accurate. Schools think girls are interested who aren’t just because they emailed. They could be calling because of those emails they thought meant real interest
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As a parent who has gone through the recruiting process I have to comment because I think this poster is adding stress to an already stressful situation by their comment. Agree, girls should have gotten feedback from club/coaches and directors on interest after fall tournies and winter camps BUT to say no one is recruiting you if you have not heard is ridiculous. If you think coaches have set lists after the fall and one summer tournament and that no one can get on them is crazy. My daughter going through the process now was at UA 150 and AS last year. There were coaches at UA 150 but they seemed more focused on 23's. Coaches were 100% focused on 23's at AS so I'm not sure why you feel the fall was the end all be all for getting on a coaches radar. Yes many coaches have girls on their radar and there are always those that have greater interest initially, but this summer is still an opportunity for girls. My older daughter had some nice surprises on September 1st, so don't rule that out, but don't count on it either but it happens. Honestly the best thing you can do is not talk to other parents about your daughters process, because you will drive yourself crazy. Just enjoy the games and support your daughter. Good luck to everyone summer and fall!

Experiences vary so much from player to player, but I think this post provides a good idea of what it looks like. My daughter has received communication through our club coaches about various D1 programs watching her. She had her first D2 school reach out to her today and we've had numerous D3's reach out late spring. All of these have seen her play and we are still in the evaluation period.

Unless you're a high level recruit on the offensive side, you probably aren't seeing a ton of activity just yet. However, I wouldn't sweat it, as one of our 23's didn't receive contact until mid October from a decent D1 school, which she eventually committed to.

Zero reason to panic, just tell your daughters to play hard and have fun. It's better to enjoy the ride and don't build up any anxiety--it's not worth it.


Our daughter also received four calls today and numerous d2 emails. These schools know that we are leaning d1 and have had interest through our club but felt good to have schools reach out none the less!
Schools will call if they feel they can win a recruiting battle. They must feel she’s not a top d1.

I don’t think that’s accurate. Schools think girls are interested who aren’t just because they emailed. They could be calling because of those emails they thought meant real interest

Yeah, I disagree on this one. For players that can do both, getting a call or email from, say, the 2022 D2 National Champion (UIndy) is more about a D2 striking while the iron is hot. Quite a few of the D2s will not initiate much contact until after September 1st, as players figure out which level they can or want to play at. Kids that are strong academically may have interest from all levels. it all comes down to the right fit and timing.
Summer Genesis 2022 question. Is Emergence the top tier group playing?
No, that’s one of the lowest if the lowest at the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, that’s one of the lowest if the lowest at the tournament.

That bracket has all programs c teams in it. For the weaker teams
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

Then YJW goes on to kill it in the next two games! Also, Beating NEMS. You must be a Legacy parent? Lol Who did Legacy beat? Putting yourself last in your daily wrap up is a giveaway. Good job Legacy parent! Good luck in a less competitive bracket. But hey! Good for showcasing your girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer Genesis 2022 question. Is Emergence the top tier group playing?

Obviously “Source” is the top tier group in the 2024 bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

Look at the whole picture. You are Comparing Apples and Oranges.

Also remember, this is a showcase tournament and most teams do equal playing time format for showcasing. Very Different then championship tournament play, when a team will play top players to “win”.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Most teams are all playing to showcase. With the exception of top guns and legacy, I have not heard any team completely taking time from kids. At this age, some kids will play less time but most of the time thats not purposeful. The way the cookie crumbles in sports is that each line is not getting second to second time because of how the game is structured. As a parent walking around yesterday afternoon, you could see that girls were being subbed every few minutes and that MOST teams were very diligent about making sure no one sat an entire half. Now will you get 15 minutes if another midfielder gets 15, no. One may get a few minutes more if there is no chance to sub, and again thats SPORTS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Good team, but like all the top teams, only 4-5 go to the top tier academic/athletic programs. I’m talking top 50 academic, top 20 athletic. You will see. You will also be surprised how many girls from “lesser “ club programs wind up at these schools because they’re identified as top athletes. Coaches don’t recruit teams, and a lot of you will be in for a very rude awakening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.


Ok jesters dad - nobody cares about wins and loses at this point (especially at a showcase). You know what wasn’t a surprise yesterday is your daughter watching from the sidelines while the coaches daughter plays every minute of every game. Also not a surprise how every play is designed for the lefty low attack. Must be great for recruiting. But hey enjoy that two goal loss!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

You couldn’t be more wrong about 91. Not sure how you’d even know anything about them. My daughter plays in this team and we are so happy with how well she’s treated, how professional and kind the coaches are. All of the kids and parents seem very very happy. All of the kids played pretty much the same amount of time this weekend because, like the coaches told them and us, they wanted to showcase every kid evenly.

Simply put the two 91 coaches are the best my daughter has ever had!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

Complaining parents should throw their hats in the ring. After all they all seem to know who should be playing, how much and all aspects of lacrosse. Be the coach and then your daughter can play the entire game and solidify her standing as a D-1 player. When your kid isn't as good, cry daddy coach and all those who's daughers dont play as much either chime in "yeah thats right!". Last I checked players and parents are free to go dominate on any other team they want.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Up and coming? Didn’t the jesters go 0-4 this weekend including losses to two teams ranked lower than 70?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Up and coming? Didn’t the jesters go 0-4 this weekend including losses to two teams ranked lower than 70?

The rankings are not legit yet- not nearly enough games. Playing [ChillLaxin] teams to get 4 wins does nothing for you. Get some games in where scores are within 3 for each game and that’s a good competition. college Coaches don’t care if you lost by 3, they’re there to watch you play players at your level. At this point, I commend jesters & Weiner for giving their girls equal time to showcase them even if it meant losses. I watched other program who did not do the same. 91 very lopsided. Top guns very lopsided. Legacy lopsided. So the fact that those coaches were willing to lose by playing everyone speaks to their understanding of what these tournaments mean at this age group. The only people who care about scores anymore are mommy and daddy on the sideline who want to text their buddies on other teams how much better they are than other teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

Complaining parents should throw their hats in the ring. After all they all seem to know who should be playing, how much and all aspects of lacrosse. Be the coach and then your daughter can play the entire game and solidify her standing as a D-1 player. When your kid isn't as good, cry daddy coach and all those who's daughers dont play as much either chime in "yeah thats right!". Last I checked players and parents are free to go dominate on any other team they want.

Agree 100%. Playing D3 in front of top D1 coaches won’t help the player and the team will struggle to remain competitive. Coaches will go watch better games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

You couldn’t be more wrong about 91. Not sure how you’d even know anything about them. My daughter plays in this team and we are so happy with how well she’s treated, how professional and kind the coaches are. All of the kids and parents seem very very happy. All of the kids played pretty much the same amount of time this weekend because, like the coaches told them and us, they wanted to showcase every kid evenly.

Simply put the two 91 coaches are the best my daughter has ever had!

You my friend are in la la land, but please let us know how great you are that you lost to skywalkers b team by 10.
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they smacked YJ which is true. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls are close, and they look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

The mighty wiener has fallen!

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Up and coming? Didn’t the jesters go 0-4 this weekend including losses to two teams ranked lower than 70?

The rankings are not legit yet- not nearly enough games. Playing [ChillLaxin] teams to get 4 wins does nothing for you. Get some games in where scores are within 3 for each game and that’s a good competition. college Coaches don’t care if you lost by 3, they’re there to watch you play players at your level. At this point, I commend jesters & Weiner for giving their girls equal time to showcase them even if it meant losses. I watched other program who did not do the same. 91 very lopsided. Top guns very lopsided. Legacy lopsided. So the fact that those coaches were willing to lose by playing everyone speaks to their understanding of what these tournaments mean at this age group. The only people who care about scores anymore are mommy and daddy on the sideline who want to text their buddies on other teams how much better they are than other teams


Agreed. 91, although playing against teams that were better than them in many cases, also played everyone evenly so they can showcase all the kids like when they lost to M&D red by 4.
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[quote=Anonymous]Some surprises today!
- YJ Wiener loses to integrity
- Jesters black only losing by 2 goals to top 30 teams
- Ramos loses by ten to primetime
- Liberty beats jersey select by one
- legacy wins all three games

This can happen when teams start playing showcase lacrosse and playing equal playing time. That’s what showcases are for.

If the Wiener top girls were playing and they were being “coached” to win by Wiener herself (they are not), that 1 loss would have not happened. They are still “mighty” and have some of the best 24s in that age group. Facts.

Jesters seems to be on the up and up coming up very close to beating strong teams. Biggest issue with this team is that daddy’s kid plays the entire 50 minutes even though she clearly is not the strongest player on her team. I guess that clubs accept this is going to happen when they let parents coach teams. This also happens on other teams as well with parent coaches.YJ Ramos and his assistant coach leave their kids on the field even though they are clearly the weakest on the roster and 91 keeps their kids in and their kids best friends in when there is other talent to be showcased. Empire bengals do this too. Coaches kids are the weakest on the roster, so unless you’re playing to showcase they should be benched. Then you have top guns who has their favorites and rarely makes a sub and will bench kids an entire game while other don’t come off. There are some exceptions to this “showcase” everyone rule when you’re dealing with a parent coaches child.

Should be a rule for clubs that they have to play to showcase these games and that every kid even the coaches gets the same time as others. Shame that playing to showcase rosters does not apply to coaches kids.


Parent coaches should be CANCELLED.

You couldn’t be more wrong about 91. Not sure how you’d even know anything about them. My daughter plays in this team and we are so happy with how well she’s treated, how professional and kind the coaches are. All of the kids and parents seem very very happy. All of the kids played pretty much the same amount of time this weekend because, like the coaches told them and us, they wanted to showcase every kid evenly.

Simply put the two 91 coaches are the best my daughter has ever had!

You my friend are in la la land, but please let us know how great you are that you lost to skywalkers b team by 10.

Quick little mic drop for the bandits dad. Probably the coaches sig other or kids best friend who plays the entire 45 minutes
You guys are hilarious. How do you know so much about so many teams in the 2024 age group ?
91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.
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is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they smacked YJ which is true. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls are close, and they look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

This is a joke right …?
so sorry, meant for the 2027 age group
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so sorry, meant for the 2027 age group

This is great! Great way to break up the drama
I’m amazed at how some of you seem to have all this info on every 2024 team. How is it possible ? Did you sit around the field after your kids games and take notes ? Seems like a very disgruntled parent. You really should focus on your child and not worry about every other program.
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91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense
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91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.
Seems like Ramos, Spallina, and Caramelli should go have dinner and talk about strategies to get rid of daddy and mommy ball in their clubs.
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Seems like Ramos, Spallina, and Caramelli should go have dinner and talk about strategies to get rid of daddy and mommy ball in their clubs.

Who is Ramos? The others had some talented kids that would have done well regardless, and a couple that daddy got recruited and won’t see the field. Should Thorn and Giacalone be invited to the dinner?
Cant knock Spallina. Ramos on the other hand is a different story
Best in Class is a fantastic event. Very well organized and top level talent. Very happy that my daughter is here.
Does anyone know anything about the Spotlight Division for UA?
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91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore

Don’t let facts get in the way of your post. Girls did leave YJA for other transyand YJ merged with Igloo because they were tired of playing 2nd fiddle to TG 23. Well in the end TG 23 ended up still being the top team on the Island and those are the facts.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore

Lol, ran the table?? their best player is an IG transfer. They also did loose a few players to Legacy and TG. That group does not have a very deep commit list (to most coveted schools). Trust me, girls left due to parent coaches
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore

Lol, ran the table?? their best player is an IG transfer. They also did loose a few players to Legacy and TG. That group does not have a very deep commit list (to most coveted schools). Trust me, girls left due to parent coaches

How are we on 23s in a 24 thread
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played the girls fairly. All lines played. If you watched the game you saw the good and the bad.
The excuses the “coaches kids” , “their best friends” is ridiculous. Go to practice and be better. It is a team that merged together one year ago. . Sorry your not happy you didn’t leave.

No chance. Our kid was out almost an entire half. Don’t give me the stopwatch nonsense

Reason so many left YJ ‘23. Both coaches tried to promote their daughters so much it became more than embarrassing. They lost many good players because of it, and all the hype did not pay off for those girls in the end, and hurt many other deserving players. No place for parent coaches. Just represents a conflict of interest.

Reason who left YJ 23?? That team merged with Igloo. The only girls who exited were the ones who didn’t make the A team. Not one girl left the A team that made it. Think they also ran the table last summer and won the mid Atlantic tourney which is the biggest tournament.
Take a look at their commits. With transfer portal bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits. it’s not 2012 anymore

- "bottom of rosters won’t be going top 20 anymore. 24 parents, transfer portal is going nowhere. Programs you once thought were safeties may in reality be where your daughter fits."

Newsflash... The bottom of the rosters never went to Top 20 Programs, Less than 10 players on the best teams from Long Island go to Top 20 Programs. Maybe 6 - 7 players from the 2 or three top teams will commit to legit Top 20 Programs.
You are obviously just someone trying to start trouble. Every 91 girl was showcased.
Big recruiting summer for the 24's. Someone posted good feedback on Best In Class yesterday. Lots of camps going on this week, would love to hear feedback on recruiting events. We can all check the apps to see who beat who each week.
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Big recruiting summer for the 24's. Someone posted good feedback on Best In Class yesterday. Lots of camps going on this week, would love to hear feedback on recruiting events. We can all check the apps to see who beat who each week.

Finally Something Helpful. There are some good showcases coming up that may still be open for registration:

*Relentless NE Showcase - UMass - This Friday
*Undisputed - New Rochelle - Monday
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Does anyone know anything about the Spotlight Division for UA?

This is a separate division for players that made callbacks, but didn't make a regional team. It was a new addition a few years ago (the year my daughter didn't make the team). We skipped it then and she made All America games last year, so we didn't go. Since it's in the same location on the same days as the UA All America games, I saw a little bit of it. I did see college coaches on the sidelines, but I don't know any honest opinion on the value of the event.

Maybe someone else does?
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You are obviously just someone trying to start trouble. Every 91 girl was showcased.

Yes I agree i
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.
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I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?
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I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!

Lost by 3.
Another LI team that's ranked #17 lost to that #16 team by 10.



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I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

The girls mix just fine. There's no drama on the team despite what you may have heard.
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Big recruiting summer for the 24's. Someone posted good feedback on Best In Class yesterday. Lots of camps going on this week, would love to hear feedback on recruiting events. We can all check the apps to see who beat who each week.

Finally Something Helpful. There are some good showcases coming up that may still be open for registration:

*Relentless NE Showcase - UMass - This Friday
*Undisputed - New Rochelle - Monday

Lots of girls down at the UVA camp this week.
Maybe that’s because she’s good. If your so unhappy leave. If your child is good I’m sure she will have no problem getting on another team. Stop trying to cause trouble go speak to the coaches like a man or go to another club.
Shouldn't NY girls be taking regents exams this week???
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Shouldn't NY girls be taking regents exams this week???

Private school students typically don’t take the regents exams.
What does it matter if they are taking them or not? Not your kid.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shouldn't NY girls be taking regents exams this week???

Private school students typically don’t take the regents exams.
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Shouldn't NY girls be taking regents exams this week???

Private school students typically don’t take the regents exams.

Only catholic schools that don’t take regents are Kberg and Chami the rest all take them.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.
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Shouldn't NY girls be taking regents exams this week???

Private school students typically don’t take the regents exams.

They don’t have tests every day over the past 2 weeks. Most 10th graders only have 3-4 regents exams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.

Strong female coach and then a dad coach. Dad coach has had the team for years, female coach new this year. The team is much better than last year issue is just that no one can overpower dad and he tells the kids crazy things that even those who have never played know are a big no no. Girls all get along. They adore the new coach. We are getting a lot of recruiting help and are in great tournaments. Majority of the girls and families are very happy. The tactic of bad mouthing the program is the same tactic so many use to try and discredit others. They forget they’re talking about children, and frankly coaches kid is decent. She isn’t a bad player at all.
Well said, to many disgruntled people bashing kids and coaches. Simple, worry about your own situation.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.

Strong female coach and then a dad coach. Dad coach has had the team for years, female coach new this year. The team is much better than last year issue is just that no one can overpower dad and he tells the kids crazy things that even those who have never played know are a big no no. Girls all get along. They adore the new coach. We are getting a lot of recruiting help and are in great tournaments. Majority of the girls and families are very happy. The tactic of bad mouthing the program is the same tactic so many use to try and discredit others. They forget they’re talking about children, and frankly coaches kid is decent. She isn’t a bad player at all.

Agreed everyone needs to focus on their own clubs and less about everyone else.
Jesters has daddy ball on a few of the teams! Not the best
situation for many.
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.
maybe You're looking at the wrong jester's team. The went 0 for 4 at LAX for the Cure. They played in a "slightly" tougher division that they always play in and I give credit trying. I guarantee that they drop at least 2 divisions at next tournament.

And what the heck happened to what supposed to be the TOP team in '23 Team on LI.
Hmm, maybe daddy couch?

None of this is the girls fault at all???
WHAT best team?
Maybe best on their block
Maybe top 10 if the other teams their second liners.
If not maybe top 20
I'm not sure they play tournament on a regular basis.
At least the strong tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

Agree with your statement... "This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better."

There are a lot of delusional parents out there who will be making up excuses come September 1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

They are bigger and slower than they should be. Need some athletes at both ends of field. Have 2-3 standouts right now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

They are bigger and slower than they should be. Need some athletes at both ends of field. Have 2-3 standouts right now.

They have had 3 different coaching situations in the last 3 tournaments! Coaching does matter, a lot! They have beaten a lot of the same teams in Fall and just recently in the last few tourneys. The coaching at LFTC was not good! It mattered!! Period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

They are bigger and slower than they should be. Need some athletes at both ends of field. Have 2-3 standouts right now.

They have had 3 different coaching situations in the last 3 tournaments! Coaching does matter, a lot! They have beaten a lot of the same teams in Fall and just recently in the last few tourneys. The coaching at LFTC was not good! It mattered!! Period.

Tell that to the college coaches! Nobody cares. You were duped by the club you walk around dressed head to toe in Bee gear. I actually feel bad for the team, but don’t know if any others are much better. It’s all about the daughters, the money and the butt lickers. If you think any different, you’re a fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

They are bigger and slower than they should be. Need some athletes at both ends of field. Have 2-3 standouts right now.

They have had 3 different coaching situations in the last 3 tournaments! Coaching does matter, a lot! They have beaten a lot of the same teams in Fall and just recently in the last few tourneys. The coaching at LFTC was not good! It mattered!! Period.

Tell that to the college coaches! Nobody cares. You were duped by the club you walk around dressed head to toe in Bee gear. I actually feel bad for the team, but don’t know if any others are much better. It’s all about the daughters, the money and the butt lickers. If you think any different, you’re a fool.

Ramos got wrecked by a team ranked 25 when they’re 24.
Why was Kildare playing in a c bracket B
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.


becuase they all have parent coaches....it needs to stop
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.


becuase they all have parent coaches....it needs to stop
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country
Originally Posted by Anonymous
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country.


Nobody cares who won last year !! They have lost or tied a few games to average teams this summer. They went 1-3 in front of college coaches and only a couple stood out. Just cause your daughter wears the yj uniform doesn’t means she got looked at. The rankings are a joke. Grizzlies are unranked. Steps plays nobodies. College coaches don’t even know these exist.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.


becuase they all have parent coaches....it needs to stop

Wasn’t Al B their coach this weekend ? Is he a bad coach ? Have a daughter on the team ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

You are probably on to something regarding the number of girls being offered a spot at a Top 20 program. As the sport continues to grow it will also become more competitive therefore those coveted offers from the best college programs / schools will become harder to come by.

Here is a quick snapshot of the number of Long Island players selected to the Under Armour All American Team in recent years.

2016 - 13
1017 - 11
2018 - 9
2019 - 6
2020 - 10
2021 - 5
2022 - 5

I am guessing that we will see fewer girls from Long Island being offered spots at the top programs in the future as well. There are more HS girls playing and there are more college opportunities but the best programs will continue to take the best players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Sounds like a bunch of excuses. A good team will still do great despite any coaching change. I think they didn’t realize that in this recruiting year, the other teams suddenly get much better. Girls are working extra hard to get recruited. LI just is not have the best athletes.Clubs like YJ don’t really care about the girls, they care about their pockets first. This is a stressful time for the girls, and the sooner you recognize that only a small handful of your girls will be recruited to a top 20 school the better.

You are probably on to something regarding the number of girls being offered a spot at a Top 20 program. As the sport continues to grow it will also become more competitive therefore those coveted offers from the best college programs / schools will become harder to come by.

Here is a quick snapshot of the number of Long Island players selected to the Under Armour All American Team in recent years.

2016 - 13
1017 - 11
2018 - 9
2019 - 6
2020 - 10
2021 - 5
2022 - 5

I am guessing that we will see fewer girls from Long Island being offered spots at the top programs in the future as well. There are more HS girls playing and there are more college opportunities but the best programs will continue to take the best players.

Do you think it has something to do with the AS start up? Or, is that a non factor? I’m not sure how they pick the UA All Americans? How do they?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country.


Nobody cares who won last year !! They have lost or tied a few games to average teams this summer. They went 1-3 in front of college coaches and only a couple stood out. Just cause your daughter wears the yj uniform doesn’t means she got looked at. The rankings are a joke. Grizzlies are unranked. Steps plays nobodies. College coaches don’t even know these exist.

CT high school teams routinely smack aroung LI teams year in and year out. I would argue CT has better players overall
Teams may be losing because of them playing everyone not their top 12. Playing time before this year was mot as equal. As someone whose kid was on a team that didn’t win much the past few weekends, we had 40 coaches on the sideline each game viewing our kids profile as she played. No one but parents on this website care about the scores anymore. If you’re on here trying to blow up teams spots you have a screw lose. At this age it does not matter what the score is and if teams are competiting and not in blow out games where they’re winning by 10, they’re in the right spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI teams looking real weak at LFTC.
Say that again, we didn’t even have 1 team make the quarter finals. md had 5, ny, ct, and nj each had one.

Terrible! The bees looked more like fly’s. I think the other LI clubs did better?

YJ 24 A’s gets a new coaching change one week before summer tournaments of recruiting year. New coach Doesn’t know the girls playing. The team got hosed a bit with this. Not the time for new coaching style and plays. Not the time for a learning curve! The team looks confused? It’s a shame, hopefully they pull it together fur their last few tournaments? Bad timing on “management” call!

Does this mean the team name changes?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country.

YJ way winning only matters when they win if they don’t win it’s no big deal.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
24 Wiener played top teams in the country in front over 45 top college coaches. Who cares who wins the tournament this year! It's about playing everyone and showcasing the girls. They won the whole thing last year. Really no big deal. Came in ranked 3 in the country.

YJ way winning only matters when they win if they don’t win it’s no big deal.

In recruiting year, it really is not about the win. Coaches are def. Not looking at the score. They are looking at individual playing and how a girl plays in team plays. However, I think when a team is winning, the girls mentally play better. Have a better “showing”.
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout

If you get cut from UA underclass Long Island; very hard to justify making the 48 girl roster for the UA senior game when it’s a national selection. don’t you think??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout

If you get cut from UA underclass Long Island; very hard to justify making the 48 girl roster for the UA senior game when it’s a national selection. don’t you think??

What I think, is how do they judge it from the UA stuff anymore , when a lot of the top players are doing AS now!?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout

Under Armour selected 46 players and they do it by position (10 attack, 22 midfield, 10 defense 4 goalies) traditionally there was a direct correlation between the Inside Lacrosse "Yong Gun Senior List" and who made the Under Armour All American Senior Team. The Inside lacrosse "Young Gun List" started out naming 30 players then it went to 40 and might have gone as high as 50. It looks like this year they ranked the Top 20 and then named another 39 players as "on the rise". In the past it would be extremely rare for a Top 30 or 40 player to not also make the UA team.

No selection process is perfect but over the years Under Armour / Inside Lacrosse / Corrigan has done an excellent job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout

If you get cut from UA underclass Long Island; very hard to justify making the 48 girl roster for the UA senior game when it’s a national selection. don’t you think??

What I think, is how do they judge it from the UA stuff anymore , when a lot of the top players are doing AS now!?

For years they evaluated players throughout the summer and fall, they watched the Top Club Teams at the more competitive tournaments as well as at The UA Underclass Games. I'm sure they can watch AS as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.

Strong female coach and then a dad coach. Dad coach has had the team for years, female coach new this year. The team is much better than last year issue is just that no one can overpower dad and he tells the kids crazy things that even those who have never played know are a big no no. Girls all get along. They adore the new coach. We are getting a lot of recruiting help and are in great tournaments. Majority of the girls and families are very happy. The tactic of bad mouthing the program is the same tactic so many use to try and discredit others. They forget they’re talking about children, and frankly coaches kid is decent. She isn’t a bad player at all.

You have told us all we need to know. This is BAD news. Not a good look during a very important time for these girls. Everyone deserves better. Good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

It absolutely does. Two of the top players on LI heading to Duke next year we’re snubbed from the UA team because they were cut at the underclass tryout

If you get cut from UA underclass Long Island; very hard to justify making the 48 girl roster for the UA senior game when it’s a national selection. don’t you think??

What I think, is how do they judge it from the UA stuff anymore , when a lot of the top players are doing AS now!?

Regardless of where they watch them play, they have done a good job in the past. This year it looks much the same with a few schools Good for being represented that do not normally bring in top talent.

The rich get richer...

6 to North Carolina
6 to Maryland
5 to Boston College
4 to Stanford
3 to Northwestern
3 to Michigan
2 to Syracuse
2 to Duke
2 to Virginia
2 to Notre Dame
2 to Penn State
1 to Princeton
1 to Florida
1 to Stony Brook
1 to Hopkins
1 to Georgetown
1 to Va Tech
1 to Hofstra
1 to Clemson
1 to Cornell

Good for Clemson! Looks like Stanford has another good recruiting class and Michigan looks like their success in recent years is helping with recruiting.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.

Strong female coach and then a dad coach. Dad coach has had the team for years, female coach new this year. The team is much better than last year issue is just that no one can overpower dad and he tells the kids crazy things that even those who have never played know are a big no no. Girls all get along. They adore the new coach. We are getting a lot of recruiting help and are in great tournaments. Majority of the girls and families are very happy. The tactic of bad mouthing the program is the same tactic so many use to try and discredit others. They forget they’re talking about children, and frankly coaches kid is decent. She isn’t a bad player at all.

You have told us all we need to know. This is BAD news. Not a good look during a very important time for these girls. Everyone deserves better. Good luck.

Sure these girls will be just fine. All teams seem to have their own issues, if not noticed. But, thanks for your insightful input though.
Empire worse than them all daddy ball plus playing in the wrong branders. Then comes Kildare and 91- Kildare great coaches but playing in c/d brackets and winning games by 20? 91 with parent coaches and playing in brackets not matched for their skill level.

At this age all games should be 2-3 goals differences in goals this could mean a loss or a win, doesn’t matter, but the goal differential should be small.

Weiner plying in the right bracket. All games close even when they lose or win. The losses and wins comes down to if each team is doing what’s right and playing fairly equally. May be 1-3 kids on a roster who don’t play as much because they are misplaced and too hard to cut at this age, but for the most part that’s what it should look like.
Why don't those teams change their girls and play up in bracket.
TG's played:
M&D BLACK
MONSTER PURPLE
HEROES GREEN
SKYWALKERS BLUE
Games were relatively competitive. Actually tied HEROES.
and the girls are better for it .
Other teams should take that chance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters has daddy ball on a few of the teams! Not the best
situation for many.

Hysterical. How many D-1 commits from that '23 team? When the '24 team doesn't have the same level of talent it must be "daddy ball." Of course the '23 team won't be as good in their junior year. They are rightfully showcasing the girls still looking to be placed somewhere. The anonymous keyboard warriors are pathetic on here. Don't let the truth get in the way of bashing a program and aren't thoses axes fully ground yet? Gross
For the 2024 class, this season all that matters is having competitive games and showing up to play in those games. The college coaches don't really care if your team is winning or losing, unless it's a blowout. Most coaches will walk away from those blowouts and find another game, as it isn't a good indicator of a player's abilities on either side. Worry less about the W's and L's and more about showing up to play regardless.

If you're sitting on the sidelines and your daughter is getting hits on IWLCA Recruits, that's always a good thing. My daughter played at New England Cup this past weekend and had a lot of hits on her profile, so I'll take that as a positive for her recruiting efforts. (Full disclosure, my daughter doesn't play on a LI team, so I have no dog in this LI club "greatness" fight.)

Some of you are too neurotic about the W's and L's and lose sight of the goal/end game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

This is all 100% true. Last year two very good players who are YJs including the Suffolk player of the year did not make the team because YJ was not evaluating.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

This is all 100% true. Last year two very good players who are YJs including the Suffolk player of the year did not make the team because YJ was not evaluating.

That’s unfortunate however YJ evaluators have been doing that for years to other excellent players from other clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.

The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.




Not sure why you gave 4 statements/answers to questions that were not asked.

I asked 1 question....feel free to answer.....I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from?
Same reason AS is 90 percent YJ. Nothing is real.
AS is a joke with how they picked the LI teams. YJ girls on teams that didn't even go to the tryouts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AS is a joke with how they picked the LI teams. YJ girls on teams that didn't even go to the tryouts

Same happened last year. Only girls going to sought after programs are the top half f the black team. Others are paying for a money grab
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters has daddy ball on a few of the teams! Not the best
situation for many.

Hysterical. How many D-1 commits from that '23 team? When the '24 team doesn't have the same level of talent it must be "daddy ball." Of course the '23 team won't be as good in their junior year. They are rightfully showcasing the girls still looking to be placed somewhere. The anonymous keyboard warriors are pathetic on here. Don't let the truth get in the way of bashing a program and aren't thoses axes fully ground yet? Gross

This appears to be a recurring topic
and the same club seems to be getting a lot of the heat.
I’m not sure if it’s justified but just a suggestion,,,
We all pay a lot of $$$ and most of us just want a healthy environment for our children.
Maybe, get rid of the parent coaches(especially dads), and hire professionals that have played the sport.
The girls game is much different from the boys game.
You may get an objective, fair environment and it should minimize the parent lack of trust.
Does anyone know if any coaches will be at Junior’s Open?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if any coaches will be at Junior’s Open?


I don't think there will be many. They haven't promoted coaches attending in any correspondence. Coaches have seen the girls a lot already this summer. My guess is it will be similar to Best in Class attendance.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if any coaches will be at Junior’s Open?


I don't think there will be many. They haven't promoted coaches attending in any correspondence. Coaches have seen the girls a lot already this summer. My guess is it will be similar to Best in Class attendance.

A similar situation to UA150. There weren't as many college coaches in attendance as there were in 2021. I think there's some burnout going on and too many events, not enough time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.[/quote]


Spare us the long winded BS explanation. The AA main event is good and exciting for the girls but the selection process is total farce. Anyone who has been out there knows this. Word to anyone wondering. If you
have no affiliation with the evaluators you have very little chance of making the team. FACTS!

IMHO I would say they legitimately select 3-5 kids per team. The vast majority made the team before they ever stepped foot on the field. Anyone who doubts this is in denial. They actually let parents evaluate kids they know which is basically the
same thing as having club coaches doing it. Total conflict of interest. If you want a more legit selection process go with the UA 150. Its a much better event.




I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from? I believe it to be almost all of them!

For the fact checkers here is the link to the 2021 rosters https://events.r2it.com/lacrosse/UnderArmour21/Roster/Division/Underclass
Coaches were from MN, IL, MI - its a total joke. Michigan & Minnesota girls lax player pool a fraction of OH & IL. Maybe a couple girls from Michigan and 1 or 2 kids from MN should have been on the team. I think they both had 7 or 8. It is laughable and could be one of the reasons midwest girls lax does
not get the respect it deserves from the girls LAX orbit.[/quote]

The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.[/quote]




Not sure why you gave 4 statements/answers to questions that were not asked.

I asked 1 question....feel free to answer.....I have one question, how many kids from the 2021 Midwest Girls Command team came from the clubs that the coaches were from?[/quote]

So which Ohio or Illinois team does your daughter play for and why didn't she get selected? Which of the players on the team took her spot? Did she beat any of them out for the 2022 team?

The original response was how the 2022 tryouts went, not 2021. I'd suggest just letting 2021 go and living in the now. You definitely sound like the poster that brought this up last year after tryouts, then ridiculed the team on multiple platforms, including here, Twitter, and Instagram.
You sure seem to have alot to say for someone with no skin in the game. I was using published info from 2021 which looked like the most political team ever assembled. I believe in paying it forward and want to let other folks know what they will likely be dealing with should they tryout for a team selected by parents and local club coaches. Just like the competing AS and AU events, the All American main event is a good experiece for the girls. The selection process and consolation spotlight division however is a different story and leaves alot to be desired. I think most would agree that having club coaches and parents select regional "all star" teams is nothing short of a complete joke. I am shocked the operator of this event has yet to figure out a better selection process. Lax clubs should concentrate on their core business of training lax players instead of trying to falsley booster their relevence by placing their own (often times unworthy) club kids on these "alleged" all star teams. #Facts.
Yes, the best high school and club coaches on the planet are there.
Originally Posted by SAT1234
You sure seem to have alot to say for someone with no skin in the game. I was using published info from 2021 which looked like the most political team ever assembled. I believe in paying it forward and want to let other folks know what they will likely be dealing with should they tryout for a team selected by parents and local club coaches. Just like the competing AS and AU events, the All American main event is a good experiece for the girls. The selection process and consolation spotlight division however is a different story and leaves alot to be desired. I think most would agree that having club coaches and parents select regional "all star" teams is nothing short of a complete joke. I am shocked the operator of this event has yet to figure out a better selection process. Lax clubs should concentrate on their core business of training lax players instead of trying to falsley booster their relevence by placing their own (often times unworthy) club kids on these "alleged" all star teams. #Facts.

Try using 2022 published info--evaluators change from year to year. What is your obsession with 2021? You sound like someone with an ax to grind here.

If you believe lax clubs have a core business of "training lax players" you're living in a fantasy world. Club lax has long since moved past that and is all about $$$.
No obsession, no ax to grind. Just putting in my $.02 for anyone who wants to do their due diligence on these FOMO events. Feel free to ignore my posts if they hit home a little too hard.
Very few teams in the grind this year all c level groups. Each of the teams going that are from NY/ New England area have a rough roster with one or two studs who should really consider moving to a different team even at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very few teams in the grind this year all c level groups. Each of the teams going that are from NY/ New England area have a rough roster with one or two studs who should really consider moving to a different team even at this age.

Sounds bad but you know what’s worse??,,,……….
like you could be one of the families who got fleeced and spent thousands $$$ on one of the new Fake all star events and no colleges coaches show up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters has daddy ball on a few of the teams! Not the best
situation for many.

Hysterical. How many D-1 commits from that '23 team? When the '24 team doesn't have the same level of talent it must be "daddy ball." Of course the '23 team won't be as good in their junior year. They are rightfully showcasing the girls still looking to be placed somewhere. The anonymous keyboard warriors are pathetic on here. Don't let the truth get in the way of bashing a program and aren't thoses axes fully ground yet? Gross

This appears to be a recurring topic
and the same club seems to be getting a lot of the heat.
I’m not sure if it’s justified but just a suggestion,,,
We all pay a lot of $$$ and most of us just want a healthy environment for our children.
Maybe, get rid of the parent coaches(especially dads), and hire professionals that have played the sport.
The girls game is much different from the boys game.
You may get an objective, fair environment and it should minimize the parent lack of trust.

1000 percent correct. Best post of the week!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.

Thanks for the offer to answer questions.

A couple questions around positioning. I appreciate your perspective, did the other evaluators share it? I noticed the number of pure defenders varied alot by region.

For next year, my daughter is a speedy midfielder on a top-25 club team who is outstanding at D, but probably just very good at attack. Would you recommend that she register as a defender for this event's tryouts? We've already been told she will likely move to D in college.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quote
The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.
Juniors Open was one of the biggest money grabs I have ever attended.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Juniors Open was one of the biggest money grabs I have ever attended.

Why?
Add the USA Lacrosse U16/U18 tryouts to that as well. Went to the Jersey one when we were down for Lax 4 Cure. NO evaluators, or those running drills evaluated without clipboards?. U16 and U18 girls combined in drills and scrimmage together. Great for competition but not split evenly and you should be evaluating the age groups separately, that is how it was done last year. Understand very selective but girls deserved a fair evaluation and they were obviously short staffed probably due to Worlds coming up. Just another item in addition to our US lax membership that funds the blowouts we are watching through Worlds. Yes my kid go the email she did not get selected for the combine and yes I'm disgruntled, just wanted a fair tryout for the money shelled out and really didn't get it. Curious how the tryouts were run in other regions.
Guess the wipe out at genesis threw 91 into a c bracket as usual. Going from playing top 50 teams and gettin smoked to playing teams in the 100s. In true fashion they will blow out bad teams and beat their chest that they went 4-0. Why do teams do this? To get a win? It doesn’t make sense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Add the USA Lacrosse U16/U18 tryouts to that as well. Went to the Jersey one when we were down for Lax 4 Cure. NO evaluators, or those running drills evaluated without clipboards?. U16 and U18 girls combined in drills and scrimmage together. Great for competition but not split evenly and you should be evaluating the age groups separately, that is how it was done last year. Understand very selective but girls deserved a fair evaluation and they were obviously short staffed probably due to Worlds coming up. Just another item in addition to our US lax membership that funds the blowouts we are watching through Worlds. Yes my kid go the email she did not get selected for the combine and yes I'm disgruntled, just wanted a fair tryout for the money shelled out and really didn't get it. Curious how the tryouts were run in other regions.

Agree, my daughter went to the one on LI and it was poorly run as well. US Lacrosse was totally disorganized. We did not receive an email. We were told we would get one last week. Anyone else hear anything?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Add the USA Lacrosse U16/U18 tryouts to that as well. Went to the Jersey one when we were down for Lax 4 Cure. NO evaluators, or those running drills evaluated without clipboards?. U16 and U18 girls combined in drills and scrimmage together. Great for competition but not split evenly and you should be evaluating the age groups separately, that is how it was done last year. Understand very selective but girls deserved a fair evaluation and they were obviously short staffed probably due to Worlds coming up. Just another item in addition to our US lax membership that funds the blowouts we are watching through Worlds. Yes my kid go the email she did not get selected for the combine and yes I'm disgruntled, just wanted a fair tryout for the money shelled out and really didn't get it. Curious how the tryouts were run in other regions.

Agree, my daughter went to the one on LI and it was poorly run as well. US Lacrosse was totally disorganized. We did not receive an email. We were told we would get one last week. Anyone else hear anything?

Emails went out to notify results of the tryouts and if you are invited to the combine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess the wipe out at genesis threw 91 into a c bracket as usual. Going from playing top 50 teams and gettin smoked to playing teams in the 100s. In true fashion they will blow out bad teams and beat their chest that they went 4-0. Why do teams do this? To get a win? It doesn’t make sense

Top guns did this religiously last year but this year tried against some real competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.

Thanks for the offer to answer questions.

A couple questions around positioning. I appreciate your perspective, did the other evaluators share it? I noticed the number of pure defenders varied alot by region.

For next year, my daughter is a speedy midfielder on a top-25 club team who is outstanding at D, but probably just very good at attack. Would you recommend that she register as a defender for this event's tryouts? We've already been told she will likely move to D in college.

Not the original poster...

If your daughter is fast and athletic with great footwork and a defensive mindset I would have her tryout as a defender. Coaches understand that not every player has the right mentality or the willingness to play defense. When coaches identify a versatile athlete who has the mental toughness required to play defense they are usually all over the athlete. In the women's game, defense is really a thankless position to some degree but good coaches realize how important it is. Athletic and fast HS Midfielders who are selfless players who do much of the work in the middle of the field and excel defensively will many times be ranked very high by college coaches and have their pick of schools. IMHO, the reason you see some of these players receiving early offers from Top 5 - 10 programs is there is a relatively limited number of this type of player.
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Add the USA Lacrosse U16/U18 tryouts to that as well. Went to the Jersey one when we were down for Lax 4 Cure. NO evaluators, or those running drills evaluated without clipboards?. U16 and U18 girls combined in drills and scrimmage together. Great for competition but not split evenly and you should be evaluating the age groups separately, that is how it was done last year. Understand very selective but girls deserved a fair evaluation and they were obviously short staffed probably due to Worlds coming up. Just another item in addition to our US lax membership that funds the blowouts we are watching through Worlds. Yes my kid go the email she did not get selected for the combine and yes I'm disgruntled, just wanted a fair tryout for the money shelled out and really didn't get it. Curious how the tryouts were run in other regions.

I agree. Wasn’t fair. They had both age groups playing together. But I believe it wasn’t just NJ. Did the same at other places.
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe
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Originally Posted by SAT1234
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[quote=Anonymous]No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

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No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.

Thanks for the offer to answer questions.

A couple questions around positioning. I appreciate your perspective, did the other evaluators share it? I noticed the number of pure defenders varied alot by region.

For next year, my daughter is a speedy midfielder on a top-25 club team who is outstanding at D, but probably just very good at attack. Would you recommend that she register as a defender for this event's tryouts? We've already been told she will likely move to D in college.

Not the original poster...

If your daughter is fast and athletic with great footwork and a defensive mindset I would have her tryout as a defender. Coaches understand that not every player has the right mentality or the willingness to play defense. When coaches identify a versatile athlete who has the mental toughness required to play defense they are usually all over the athlete. In the women's game, defense is really a thankless position to some degree but good coaches realize how important it is. Athletic and fast HS Midfielders who are selfless players who do much of the work in the middle of the field and excel defensively will many times be ranked very high by college coaches and have their pick of schools. IMHO, the reason you see some of these players receiving early offers from Top 5 - 10 programs is there is a relatively limited number of this type of player.


Thank you very much.
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YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.
The Grind was a COMPLETE waste of time.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.

Not right what they did to them with the last minute coaching change. She should rly stick it out for the last year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.

Not quite. Playing a showcase is different than playing a do or die type tourney.
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Does anyone know if any coaches will be at Junior’s Open?


I don't think there will be many. They haven't promoted coaches attending in any correspondence. Coaches have seen the girls a lot already this summer. My guess is it will be similar to Best in Class attendance.

No colleges at any of these events. People paid a lot of $ and not happy.
Some long island battle at the grind…Most were shocked with the team that won but those girls played together as one not a bunch of individuals looking just for them and their old teammates
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.

Not quite. Playing a showcase is different than playing a do or die type tourney.

Not really. The competition was even better at G8 and the team play was very good. They played as a team and beat some of the top teams. Wins or losses against top teams is what counts. Great competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.

Not quite. Playing a showcase is different than playing a do or die type tourney.

Not at this age group. Every summer tourney was a showcase recruiting event for the 24s.
How did Liberty end up in the championship at Top Threat
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Kildare abs Ramos go 0-4 at g8 … how’d that happe

When you play better teams like YJ, TG, Jesters, and legacy do then you don’t win your bracket all the time. Fact is that it’s better to play up and lose by a few goals then play down in a c/d bracket and beat everyone.

YJ Weiner is a great example from g8- almost every game came down to 1 goal. That’s a competitive bracket for them. More than 3 goal differential you’re in the wrong place

YJ Wiener had Wiener back coaching and they played like the team of talent they are. Some great wins and great team playing. Plenty of coaches watching some very good lacrosse. That team redeemed itself from L4C.

Not quite. Playing a showcase is different than playing a do or die type tourney.

Not at this age group. Every summer tourney was a showcase recruiting event for the 24s.

And they have all had their off weekends. Think what you want about a showcase type tourney though. Never the same as a L4C where a mistake in pool play can cost you a playoff and the way a team subs in weaker players isn’t the same. Yes everyone wants to win but not all play to win solely. I am shocked at Steps record though. Surprised they finally played in the top bracket.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.
"No colleges at any of these events"??
Were you at the Junior Open last week? All the games were played on the same field so coaches could just stay put and watch some good lacrosse.
It was far Lax for the Cure or G8, but several top schools were in plain sight. These coaches can't be everywhere, just like the players. Everyone tries to spend their funds wisely, their perspective is probably different than most parents. There are a few more events in the next 2 weeks, then American Select and Under Armour should wrap up a busy summer. Sept 1 lets everyone actually talk to coaches, finally.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players


from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.



Long Island went 6-0 in the Highlight division and looks like they return a good handful of names that led the way last summer.
Does Baltimore or Philly give them a run for their money??
Command looks like another repeat final of last summer. LI vs Baltimore.
Sport has grown but top 2 areas are still the same.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.

In the Highlight division Midwest went 3-2 last year and lost a close one to LI who won it all. Not saying we were top 3 team there but LI cruised most games and we hung with the best.
Just don’t get why we don’t pick the best players; why don’t they want to represent the MW, not True Illinois.
I know everyone has their own politics when it comes to selection, but when I look at LI roster, the girls are from all different HS’s. maybe couple kids from same school.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.

In the Highlight division Midwest went 3-2 last year and lost a close one to LI who won it all. Not saying we were top 3 team there but LI cruised most games and we hung with the best.
Just don’t get why we don’t pick the best players; why don’t they want to represent the MW, not True Illinois.
I know everyone has their own politics when it comes to selection, but when I look at LI roster, the girls are from all different HS’s. maybe couple kids from same school.

Some of the Midwest coaches would rather advertise how many players they had in UA rather than win it. (I would like to point out, a few years back, one of the True coaches said she wasn't picking her players because she knew they weren't the best players there--the team did well that year.) Midwest Highlight went 2-3 last year--Command went 3-2. Highlight did have a close one with LI for sure.

Some coaches get it...others just want more sign-ups for their club teams because UA players.
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Originally Posted by SAT1234
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?


Just an FYI........Under Armour is not affiliated anymore with the All American anymore, I am pretty sure they are getting out of Lacrosse equipment manufacturing as well. All these regional events are not make or break for anyone. To answer your question, every team had a staff of 2-3 usually club coaches who typically took many of their own club players and a few of the standouts from the tryouts. College coaches know this and take the rostering with a grain of salt. I assume American Select is much the same from what I can tell. It looks like they have some regions with multiple teams. Anyone who thinks these All Star regional events carry any significant weight are kidding themselves. They are just another showcase. For standout players on lower tiered teams it offers them a chance to play with some upgraded competition to see how they stack up. For average players on any tiered teams it gives their parents something to chew on and show their friends & family. For standout players on top tier teams it gives them a chance to show why they are special. Not really sure why they make a big deal out of the "selection process". Anyone who has been to more than a few tryouts knows how it works. Very political with very few breaking thru to the rosters. Spare me the your kid didn't make it nonsense. I am not a disgruntled parent. I have 1st hand experience with all the above scenarios I outlined. Bottom line is there are many kids who should be at these events that are not and even more that should not be that are. Does that make it a money grab? I don't know or care, I'm sure everyone that play gets some benefit, great experience, meet new kids, play with different kids etc. IMHO the bottom line is I doubt that participating in these events impacts an individuals recruiting prospects all that much for the majority of the kids that get selected. Chances are they have already been vetted by their club coach and college coaches during their tournament games.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No, AS is not a factor. Just took a quick look at the Under Armour Rosters over the years (2006 - 2022) Long Island has averaged about 8 girls per year, anywhere from 3 to 13 girls.

Thank you. So, not playing on the UA Command or Highlight team matters? Who chooses? AS was not around until the last couple of years. If a girl chooses to do AS over UA, I was wondering if that affects her chances to become a UA all American?

I evaluated for the Midwest earlier today. UA is still sponsoring the event and we were all directed to not wear competing brands—staff were provided with UA gear to stay on brand.

These events can get political and it depends on who signs up to evaluate the players. It’s important to go in and choose the best players and sadly, some people have serious blinders on.

I can tell you that various players from Long Island and other east coast areas that didn’t make their local teams tried out on the Midwest.

I can also tell you one of the two teams was actually fairly picked and will compete well. The other will most likely fall on their faces due to some club coach shenanigans with some picks.

The one team will have a varied roster, with kids from all around the Midwest. The other will be 95% comprised of players from 3 clubs. That roster will look much like the Midwest AS roster. One team wants to go out and win, the other wants to reward their devoted club players and tout how many they can get into these events. Should be a beautiful train wreck.

For evaluations, here’s how I approached it. You really need 4, maybe 5 dedicated Defenders, 2 Goalies, 6 Attack, then the rest are mids. Criteria for any Mid or d is you must win you 1v1 matchups to start—you don’t need mids that cannot defend. If you signed up as a defender but there’s a Mid that has better D? Sorry, you probably lost your spot. Athleticism, speed, stick skills, and field vision are prized traits. If your lax IQ stinks, you don’t make the cut.

There are many players that end up on teams, like UM, etc, that never make UA. It isn’t necessary, but it helps with evaluating players if you’ve made it. If you’re playing good teams at the right events, it isn’t really necessary. Is it a fun event with some amazing lacrosse? Yes, it is. M

Coaches will evaluate players based on what their preferences are. If you know your coaches you’ll know what they recruit, what is important to them, and how to get your kid on those teams, if possible.

Feel free to ask any questions and I’ll try to answer them.

Thanks for the offer to answer questions.

A couple questions around positioning. I appreciate your perspective, did the other evaluators share it? I noticed the number of pure defenders varied alot by region.

For next year, my daughter is a speedy midfielder on a top-25 club team who is outstanding at D, but probably just very good at attack. Would you recommend that she register as a defender for this event's tryouts? We've already been told she will likely move to D in college.

Not the original poster...

If your daughter is fast and athletic with great footwork and a defensive mindset I would have her tryout as a defender. Coaches understand that not every player has the right mentality or the willingness to play defense. When coaches identify a versatile athlete who has the mental toughness required to play defense they are usually all over the athlete. In the women's game, defense is really a thankless position to some degree but good coaches realize how important it is. Athletic and fast HS Midfielders who are selfless players who do much of the work in the middle of the field and excel defensively will many times be ranked very high by college coaches and have their pick of schools. IMHO, the reason you see some of these players receiving early offers from Top 5 - 10 programs is there is a relatively limited number of this type of player.

As the OP responding--great post. If you're daughter can win her 1v1's, she's in great shape trying out as a Defender. You won't see as many and as stated, if she's doing the work, they will see it and appreciate it.
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.

In the Highlight division Midwest went 3-2 last year and lost a close one to LI who won it all. Not saying we were top 3 team there but LI cruised most games and we hung with the best.
Just don’t get why we don’t pick the best players; why don’t they want to represent the MW, not True Illinois.
I know everyone has their own politics when it comes to selection, but when I look at LI roster, the girls are from all different HS’s. maybe couple kids from same school.


To be fair, last year's highlight team probably had 3 of the top 20 players in the country. 1 Maryland Commit, 2 Notre Dame commits and a goalie going to Duke. This team doesn't even have 1 player at that level.
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Some long island battle at the grind…Most were shocked with the team that won but those girls played together as one not a bunch of individuals looking just for them and their old teammates

Who are you talking about?
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The 2021 Midwest Command Team went 3-2 overall.

The 2022 team is up. I’ll help you out. There are 3 kids from MN that made it this year. 2 players from the HC’s team made—that’s it. I believe he had about 6 that tried out but didn’t make the cut. The Command team is very diverse—check out the roster.

The Highlight team went exactly as stated with 9 players from the True IL team making it—they aren’t even the best players on that team. This team will get killed, as they didn’t select properly.

I’m a HS coach and had no skin in the game for the Command team.

The command team may be more diverse, but they have 4 Lou Fusz girls on their team (including 2 26s) , who oh by the way have one of the three coaches on the squad. Both of their 25 and 26 teams routine play in the bottom divisions of midwest tourneys and get blown out by B teams of the top clubs.

How many Lou Fusz players made the highlight team without a coach? Yup, zero.

So since their 25 and 26 teams routinely get blown out, it's impossible they could have 3 or 4 good players that showed well at tryouts? There were some really good kids that got washed out for different things, such as not hustling back on D, being so right-handed dominant they never switched sides, or other items. I think some of those kids could have beaten out the LF players if they didn't have those flaws.

I think some of the kids, regardless of how good they are, will be in for an eye-opening time when they step on the field in Maryland. The margin of error gets smaller and the details matter a lot more. This may be more of an issue with the goalies, but that's a hard position if you haven't seen shots like they will see out east. If the players don't do well, I'm certain they will see less playing time, as the Command HC is most likely playing to win (as they did last year).

For the Highlight Division, I honestly do not know any of the LF players that are 23's or 24's. I do know of other players from other clubs that didn't make the team and one could speculate it is because they weren't part of the same teams as the three Highlight coaches. (A couple players that didn't make it were multi-time UA150 and AA participants with some not even making callbacks.) I think at least one was a personal slight to a competing club coach. It's hard to overlook there is a lot of competition between club coaches and not all club coaches have good relationships with each other. Some hold deep grudges when their teams get blown out repeatedly, some have thin skin and take everything personal, some are jerks, etc. You really see it all on the club circuit and at these events.

Its tough in the midwest. There are pretty much a handful of clubs who devleop national-level talent. And then you are basically dividing up the talent in half. Since it seems half the top clubs are blacklisted at American Select and the other half are blacklisted at UA, it is nearly impossible to put together a competitive team.

Looking at rosters, i think only one club (Lakeshore) placed more than three girls at both UA and American Select. Until that changes, the midwest team won't be competitive at either event.

In the Highlight division Midwest went 3-2 last year and lost a close one to LI who won it all. Not saying we were top 3 team there but LI cruised most games and we hung with the best.
Just don’t get why we don’t pick the best players; why don’t they want to represent the MW, not True Illinois.
I know everyone has their own politics when it comes to selection, but when I look at LI roster, the girls are from all different HS’s. maybe couple kids from same school.


To be fair, last year's highlight team probably had 3 of the top 20 players in the country. 1 Maryland Commit, 2 Notre Dame commits and a goalie going to Duke. This team doesn't even have 1 player at that level.

Jaylen Rosga (Maryland), Francesca Frieri (Notre Dame), Emma Murphy (Notre Dame), and Maidson Drebing (Duke). There were some other good players on the 2021 Highlight Team (commits to Penn State, etc.), but I don't think they have the same quality for the 2022 team. I think there will be some 2024's that commit to great schools who didn't make the Highlight roster this year.
If All American or American Select is that important to you, your best bet is to get your player over to the club that will be coaching the event. Its not rocket science and has been proven year after year after year after year....
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If All American or American Select is that important to you, your best bet is to get your player over to the club that will be coaching the event. Its not rocket science and has been proven year after year after year after year....

But you never know what club coaches will be picking UA or AS. It changes every year. As for UA, AS, AA, there were plenty of girls chosen who were not YJs, so your theory is not correct. Teams not dominated by YJs unless YJ coach is picking. That goes to show that they are unfair, while other clubs do a much better job.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some long island battle at the grind…Most were shocked with the team that won but those girls played together as one not a bunch of individuals looking just for them and their old teammates

Who are you talking about?

Gusss no answer
Top guns 2027 friend ball!
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.
American Select brackets / schedules are up on the TSIC app
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I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

Coaches may come for kids that emailed but likely won’t stay long for blowouts. Good luck!
Your director requests level of play. Ask for top bracket always. They always will accommodate that request
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.
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Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

They certainly aren’t an A team !
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.
YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.
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YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.

YJ W did not look so solid. They did not look like they were playing to win? Do they realize this is not showcase and there are playoffs? Or, do they want another embarrassment like L4C ? Too many cooks in the kitchen on the sidelines for coaching. All have different recipes. Messing that team up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.

YJ W did not look so solid. They did not look like they were playing to win? Do they realize this is not showcase and there are playoffs? Or, do they want another embarrassment like L4C ? Too many cooks in the kitchen on the sidelines for coaching. All have different recipes. Messing that team up.

Don’t worry guys… someone will post that someone has an ac to grind with Weiner too.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.

YJ W did not look so solid. They did not look like they were playing to win? Do they realize this is not showcase and there are playoffs? Or, do they want another embarrassment like L4C ? Too many cooks in the kitchen on the sidelines for coaching. All have different recipes. Messing that team up.

Wiener has the most talent by far. If the two parent coaches would have stepped away and let someone else coach this team they would have been so much better.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.

Mom coach vs Dad coach
Should be epic!!

Mom coach has the better team IMO
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.

YJ W did not look so solid. They did not look like they were playing to win? Do they realize this is not showcase and there are playoffs? Or, do they want another embarrassment like L4C ? Too many cooks in the kitchen on the sidelines for coaching. All have different recipes. Messing that team up.

Wiener has the most talent by far. If the two parent coaches would have stepped away and let someone else coach this team they would have been so much better.

Best talent where ? Maybe at YJ program. Obviously 3-4 that have more talent and better results. Showcase or not. They have 2-3 high level prospects and then some solid ones. Not enough athletes on the whole field. Attack is slow and looks to shoot every time they touch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Scrimmaged this fall and beat them by a few! Coaches seemed like friends.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.

Mom coach vs Dad coach
Should be epic!!

Mom coach has the better team IMO

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.

Mom coach vs Dad coach
Should be epic!!

Mom coach has the better team IMO
Mom team lost to a team ranked 120 and 150 ….
Anyone else notice any time 91 is brought up a slew of attacks on every other club comes along? Can’t be a coincidence.

91 brought up, YJ teams attacked

91 brought up, TG attacked

91 brought up, Jesters attacked

91 brought up, Liberty attacked

91 coaches either need to get off the forum or tell their players families to stop patrolling the internet.

As a non long Islander, it is a bad look for the club to constantly come on here and belittle other people. I remember a few months ago the coaches wife came on and posted and signed her name.

It’s too much energy you’re putting in accusing everyone , bad mouthing other teams, and defending your team on a forum that any sane reader knows is hearsay.

Relax and stop embarrassing your club and your kids
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.

Mom coach vs Dad coach
Should be epic!!

Mom coach has the better team IMO

Votes on dad coach. YJ always has the one up come on now!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Weiner tied STEPS California today. STEPS California looked solid.

YJ W did not look so solid. They did not look like they were playing to win? Do they realize this is not showcase and there are playoffs? Or, do they want another embarrassment like L4C ? Too many cooks in the kitchen on the sidelines for coaching. All have different recipes. Messing that team up.

Wiener has the most talent by far. If the two parent coaches would have stepped away and let someone else coach this team they would have been so much better.

Best talent where ? Maybe at YJ program. Obviously 3-4 that have more talent and better results. Showcase or not. They have 2-3 high level prospects and then some solid ones. Not enough athletes on the whole field. Attack is slow and looks to shoot every time they touch.

Please tell me you aren’t seriously bad mouthing the best Long Island team? Every is coocoo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else notice any time 91 is brought up a slew of attacks on every other club comes along? Can’t be a coincidence.

91 brought up, YJ teams attacked

91 brought up, TG attacked

91 brought up, Jesters attacked

91 brought up, Liberty attacked

91 coaches either need to get off the forum or tell their players families to stop patrolling the internet.

As a non long Islander, it is a bad look for the club to constantly come on here and belittle other people. I remember a few months ago the coaches wife came on and posted and signed her name.

It’s too much energy you’re putting in accusing everyone , bad mouthing other teams, and defending your team on a forum that any sane reader knows is hearsay.

Relax and stop embarrassing your club and your kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

YJ OSullivan and Jesters
Would be a good game
YJ Wiener has the best talent for Long Island overall. They have some of the best recruits in the country. They struggle when playing the whole bench, but that’s what showcases are about. They would beat anyone on long island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone else notice any time 91 is brought up a slew of attacks on every other club comes along? Can’t be a coincidence.

91 brought up, YJ teams attacked

91 brought up, TG attacked

91 brought up, Jesters attacked

91 brought up, Liberty attacked

91 coaches either need to get off the forum or tell their players families to stop patrolling the internet.

As a non long Islander, it is a bad look for the club to constantly come on here and belittle other people. I remember a few months ago the coaches wife came on and posted and signed her name.

It’s too much energy you’re putting in accusing everyone , bad mouthing other teams, and defending your team on a forum that any sane reader knows is hearsay.

Relax and stop embarrassing your club and your kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

YJ OSullivan and Jesters
Would be a good game


Jesters beat O Sullivan and Kildare this past fall I believe. I agree with other poster that Ramos I Sullivan would be a good game.
oh please the “star” players, or player on YJ Wiener is old news. Nothing a solid defender couldn’t stop
The Long Island chest pounding contest amongst you all is very fun to watch, but I’d consider looking at other grad years pages. You’ll notice the same exact messages (not my opinions just repeating what I’ve read)
- YJ is top notch but the fact that there are four teams per grade is not good for kids as they get older
- 91 is a boys program and coaches are either parents who favor kids or crazy coaches who get red cards at the games of 10 year olds
- Jesters growing quickly but a lot of daddy ball
- TG owners are terrible to children and terrible people over all. You’ll still see a lot of the attack on the owners family.
- FLG a mess over all but one solid team (maybe 27s?)
- Empire becoming a brand of the past but many empire parents will praise the program and are vocally proud dads! So even if they’re going down quick, at least they are enjoying the teams left.
- No one talks about elevate or liberty. Ghost clubs.

If you go through the others and just read, even though your kids are 24s, you’ll realize it’s the same at every age. It isn’t a few haters, it’s the reputation of the different clubs. It happens. Unfortunately hard to change opinions once formed over a few years
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Long Island chest pounding contest amongst you all is very fun to watch, but I’d consider looking at other grad years pages. You’ll notice the same exact messages (not my opinions just repeating what I’ve read)
- YJ is top notch but the fact that there are four teams per grade is not good for kids as they get older
- 91 is a boys program and coaches are either parents who favor kids or crazy coaches who get red cards at the games of 10 year olds
- Jesters growing quickly but a lot of daddy ball
- TG owners are terrible to children and terrible people over all. You’ll still see a lot of the attack on the owners family.
- FLG a mess over all but one solid team (maybe 27s?)
- Empire becoming a brand of the past but many empire parents will praise the program and are vocally proud dads! So even if they’re going down quick, at least they are enjoying the teams left.
- No one talks about elevate or liberty. Ghost clubs.

If you go through the others and just read, even though your kids are 24s, you’ll realize it’s the same at every age. It isn’t a few haters, it’s the reputation of the different clubs. It happens. Unfortunately hard to change opinions once formed over a few years

It’s not the same for ‘23s. TG is and always was the best. YJ, Jesters, Legacy tied for second. Then everyone else.
So whose the best 24 then if she’s old news?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.

I think the difference between Kildare and other 24 teams is they played their best and not all of their kids. Kids sat the sideline while the top 11 played the majority of the game. The other teams (Weiner and Ramos especially) played every kids equal so college coaches could see them all play. Your team sat kids this weekend and made them watch for three games while other kids played full games so you could win, but these are 2024s. What did your game plan to win do for them? Give them bragging rights? Our Weiner and Ramos teams are getting torn apart on her for a not so successful summer if you look at wins to losses, but what you don’t see is the interest the kids got from coaches and the opportunities ALL our girls got. I’m not talking about other clubs, just our own because we watched what you did at Maryland cup to make those championship games. It’s disposable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.

We’re doing ok! A few rough moments as any team would have. Coach did a great job playing everyone. Even in tight games she’d put the whole group in. The thing that stuck with us was her messaging to us that scores didn’t matter your sophomore and junior year. Our sidelines were packed every game all summer. This past weekend we had three rows of coaches. At one point I counted over 30. So maybe on paper we looked like we were struggling but I’m paying for my kid to get looks not so I can brag to my friends what our scores were. The goal for us was college and the recruitinghelp she got from coach Sam and director Kilgus and the solid schedule we had leaves us with no complaints. I can understand why it looks like we’d be upset or struggling but we are happy as can be and our daughter is in a good place for September 1st. We hope yours is too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.

I think the difference between Kildare and other 24 teams is they played their best and not all of their kids. Kids sat the sideline while the top 11 played the majority of the game. The other teams (Weiner and Ramos especially) played every kids equal so college coaches could see them all play. Your team sat kids this weekend and made them watch for three games while other kids played full games so you could win, but these are 2024s. What did your game plan to win do for them? Give them bragging rights? Our Weiner and Ramos teams are getting torn apart on her for a not so successful summer if you look at wins to losses, but what you don’t see is the interest the kids got from coaches and the opportunities ALL our girls got. I’m not talking about other clubs, just our own because we watched what you did at Maryland cup to make those championship games. It’s disposable.

Spot on. What Kildare did all in the name of “winning” to the girls they sat for multiple games, is truly unacceptable. This is recruiting year for the 24s, and winning is not the main objective. Getting “your” girls exposure is what a good coach would be doing for their girls. The Other YJ teams seemed to be trying to play their whole teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
oh please the “star” players, or player on YJ Wiener is old news. Nothing a solid defender couldn’t stop

My daughter has played against the “star” player several times as there paths crossed during school and club ball. She is a special kid, and is very talented. My daughter is on YJ O’Sullivan and we got the chance to watch YJ Wiener play Team 180. It was such a well played game by both teams but the stars of YJ Wiener rly shined.
Who is writing all this? Who cares?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.

I think the difference between Kildare and other 24 teams is they played their best and not all of their kids. Kids sat the sideline while the top 11 played the majority of the game. The other teams (Weiner and Ramos especially) played every kids equal so college coaches could see them all play. Your team sat kids this weekend and made them watch for three games while other kids played full games so you could win, but these are 2024s. What did your game plan to win do for them? Give them bragging rights? Our Weiner and Ramos teams are getting torn apart on her for a not so successful summer if you look at wins to losses, but what you don’t see is the interest the kids got from coaches and the opportunities ALL our girls got. I’m not talking about other clubs, just our own because we watched what you did at Maryland cup to make those championship games. It’s disposable.

Spot on. What Kildare did all in the name of “winning” to the girls they sat for multiple games, is truly unacceptable. This is recruiting year for the 24s, and winning is not the main objective. Getting “your” girls exposure is what a good coach would be doing for their girls. The Other YJ teams seemed to be trying to play their whole teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry Fake new alert!!

Kildare aren’t world beaters but they are much better than jesters. Jesters are struggling. Sorry but it’s true.
Need to get their house in order before they start calling out other more established teams.

I think the difference between Kildare and other 24 teams is they played their best and not all of their kids. Kids sat the sideline while the top 11 played the majority of the game. The other teams (Weiner and Ramos especially) played every kids equal so college coaches could see them all play. Your team sat kids this weekend and made them watch for three games while other kids played full games so you could win, but these are 2024s. What did your game plan to win do for them? Give them bragging rights? Our Weiner and Ramos teams are getting torn apart on her for a not so successful summer if you look at wins to losses, but what you don’t see is the interest the kids got from coaches and the opportunities ALL our girls got. I’m not talking about other clubs, just our own because we watched what you did at Maryland cup to make those championship games. It’s disposable.

Spot on. What Kildare did all in the name of “winning” to the girls they sat for multiple games, is truly unacceptable. This is recruiting year for the 24s, and winning is not the main objective. Getting “your” girls exposure is what a good coach would be doing for their girls. The Other YJ teams seemed to be trying to play their whole teams

No wonder the team has almost no players left.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
oh please the “star” players, or player on YJ Wiener is old news. Nothing a solid defender couldn’t stop

My daughter has played against the “star” player several times as there paths crossed during school and club ball. She is a special kid, and is very talented. My daughter is on YJ O’Sullivan and we got the chance to watch YJ Wiener play Team 180. It was such a well played game by both teams but the stars of YJ Wiener rly shined.

That star is also such a great kid and teammate. Works hard always, never complains. I’d agree with O’Sullivan parent. The two functional YJ teams are in fact Weiner and O’Sullivan. Say what you may about too many chefs on Weiner but they’re happy. The girls ALL have played equal this summer which you may notice has led to some changes in scores. O’Sullivan also playing all his girls and they are happy. It’s also honorable of him to have stayed with that team when his daughter was moved up.

Now Kildare and Ramos are a different story. Ramos playing girls equally, which I applaud, but those coaches seem to have given up. They are silent. Don’t give girls feedback. No longer teach. They seem worn down and over it. Kildare as you saw from other posts has lost numerous players over the year, brought new kids in with promises they’d be a star and are now the star of the bench which is horrible to do to children summer of soph year or junior year.

Come junior year opposite should happen: commits sit more, uncommitted get some extra reps, and you will see those top few teams lose more as they do this. Good clubs and coaches recognize that once you hit a particular age your reputation for wins and losses doesn’t matter. Ask any college coach they don’t care if you lost or won as long as games are competitive and they can get a read on your kids talent.
So to change the tone of the conversation, does anyone else feel like it's a war of attrition now with prospects and showcase camps that are left in the season? I've heard some good advice about not going to the camps if your daughter isn't 100% but the FOMO is real. Anyone else feeling this way? Honestly, I feel bad for these girls. It's a lot of lacrosse in a short amount of time. When is there time to heal and rest?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So to change the tone of the conversation, does anyone else feel like it's a war of attrition now with prospects and showcase camps that are left in the season? I've heard some good advice about not going to the camps if your daughter isn't 100% but the FOMO is real. Anyone else feeling this way? Honestly, I feel bad for these girls. It's a lot of lacrosse in a short amount of time. When is there time to heal and rest?

My daughter recently went to an ID camp and the coaches basically told all the players that most of the showcase events are a waste of time and money. College coaches are starting to push back on them, as they don't even want to go. They said that highest value events are ID camps at colleges that you are interested in. That's where coaches have time to learn everyone's name and get a feel for how the girls are as players AND as people. They also said that everyone is playing too much lacrosse as high school sophomores/juniors and the damage to the bodies is evident by the 3rd and 4th year of college ball. They said that they know that many players are hearing the opposite message from club directors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was looking through tourney machine to figure out what bracket my daughters team is in for mid Atlantic.91 has orange (A team) and navy (b team), but it seems our b team is in a higher bracket than A? We are playing teams ranked in the 90s and our A team is playing teams ranked 150-200. My question is who picks the brackets for these events? Is it our director, our coaches, or the tournament. Just confused how both our teams are in really weak brackets but that our b team is in a more competitive bracket than our A team.

Second: will coaches come to see us play teams ranked 188? Has any other parents team experienced getting placed in a very weak bracket this summer? We’re there coaches?

I didn’t realize how mismatched it was or I wouldn’t be driving 5 hours to beat teams by 20.

YJ O Sullivan team plays better teams than 91. I'd like to see our girls battle it out and see if we are still a "d" team when we beat this alleged "A" team that plays teams ranked 181 and only wins by a few goals.

Hmmm I wonder who has an axe to grind with 91? Seems personal and not such a mystery.
Hopefully you can get over what they did to you and move on.

People always assume distaste for 91 is personal. Go look at other age groups threads and notice the same discussions are happening and have been happening for many many years.

Is it personal when other teams are spoken about? YJ gets smack talked all the time. A few weeks ago the “mighty Weiner has fallen” comments were made.

Also be aware this site is filled with people completely uninvolved who love to stir the pot. I wouldn’t take it so seriously.

If you’re worried about your reputation actually scrimmage that team and then the score should settle it.

Mom coach vs Dad coach
Should be epic!!

Mom coach has the better team IMO
Mom team lost to a team ranked 120 and 150 ….[/quote]

If 91 lost to 120 and 150 they are losing to sullivan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So to change the tone of the conversation, does anyone else feel like it's a war of attrition now with prospects and showcase camps that are left in the season? I've heard some good advice about not going to the camps if your daughter isn't 100% but the FOMO is real. Anyone else feeling this way? Honestly, I feel bad for these girls. It's a lot of lacrosse in a short amount of time. When is there time to heal and rest?

My daughter recently went to an ID camp and the coaches basically told all the players that most of the showcase events are a waste of time and money. College coaches are starting to push back on them, as they don't even want to go. They said that highest value events are ID camps at colleges that you are interested in. That's where coaches have time to learn everyone's name and get a feel for how the girls are as players AND as people. They also said that everyone is playing too much lacrosse as high school sophomores/juniors and the damage to the bodies is evident by the 3rd and 4th year of college ball. They said that they know that many players are hearing the opposite message from club directors.

100% agree with this and tell our girls every week. The crazy parents keep selling the fomo though and others follow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So to change the tone of the conversation, does anyone else feel like it's a war of attrition now with prospects and showcase camps that are left in the season? I've heard some good advice about not going to the camps if your daughter isn't 100% but the FOMO is real. Anyone else feeling this way? Honestly, I feel bad for these girls. It's a lot of lacrosse in a short amount of time. When is there time to heal and rest?

My daughter recently went to an ID camp and the coaches basically told all the players that most of the showcase events are a waste of time and money. College coaches are starting to push back on them, as they don't even want to go. They said that highest value events are ID camps at colleges that you are interested in. That's where coaches have time to learn everyone's name and get a feel for how the girls are as players AND as people. They also said that everyone is playing too much lacrosse as high school sophomores/juniors and the damage to the bodies is evident by the 3rd and 4th year of college ball. They said that they know that many players are hearing the opposite message from club directors.

Of course they are. “ But send in the 350$ to come to our ID camp.”
It’s all a money game
Best part of the weekend was witnessing the comradery among the STEPS coaches and CT Grizzlies coaches. What a phenomenal championship game to witness! Only wish was that it would have been a full contest. It’s obvious there is mutual respect among both organizations. That’s how the lacrosse community should be! Not this vitriol on this platform.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So to change the tone of the conversation, does anyone else feel like it's a war of attrition now with prospects and showcase camps that are left in the season? I've heard some good advice about not going to the camps if your daughter isn't 100% but the FOMO is real. Anyone else feeling this way? Honestly, I feel bad for these girls. It's a lot of lacrosse in a short amount of time. When is there time to heal and rest?

My daughter recently went to an ID camp and the coaches basically told all the players that most of the showcase events are a waste of time and money. College coaches are starting to push back on them, as they don't even want to go. They said that highest value events are ID camps at colleges that you are interested in. That's where coaches have time to learn everyone's name and get a feel for how the girls are as players AND as people. They also said that everyone is playing too much lacrosse as high school sophomores/juniors and the damage to the bodies is evident by the 3rd and 4th year of college ball. They said that they know that many players are hearing the opposite message from club directors.

100% agree with this and tell our girls every week. The crazy parents keep selling the fomo though and others follow.

High Point ID said the same thing to me and my daughter. While I agree, colleges also use these as money grabs. Duke and UNC had 200 kids there last year for 500.
I would say an ID or clinic where there are multiple colleges your kid likes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best part of the weekend was witnessing the comradery among the STEPS coaches and CT Grizzlies coaches. What a phenomenal championship game to witness! Only wish was that it would have been a full contest. It’s obvious there is mutual respect among both organizations. That’s how the lacrosse community should be! Not this vitriol on this platform.

I guess that’s what it looks like if Grizzlies win. When LL loses she storms off the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like Ramos, Spallina, and Caramelli should go have dinner and talk about strategies to get rid of daddy and mommy ball in their clubs.

True dat!!!
Find a non-dad coach
Moms are one thing but a dad in a girls sport?!?!?
Awful!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best part of the weekend was witnessing the comradery among the STEPS coaches and CT Grizzlies coaches. What a phenomenal championship game to witness! Only wish was that it would have been a full contest. It’s obvious there is mutual respect among both organizations. That’s how the lacrosse community should be! Not this vitriol on this platform.

I guess that’s what it looks like if Grizzlies win. When LL loses she storms off the field.


Agree !!! not always so mutually respectful !!! If grizzlies lose, it’s a different story! For sure
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best part of the weekend was witnessing the comradery among the STEPS coaches and CT Grizzlies coaches. What a phenomenal championship game to witness! Only wish was that it would have been a full contest. It’s obvious there is mutual respect among both organizations. That’s how the lacrosse community should be! Not this vitriol on this platform.

That’s a good laugh! Grizzly coach only gentile when she wins.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best part of the weekend was witnessing the comradery among the STEPS coaches and CT Grizzlies coaches. What a phenomenal championship game to witness! Only wish was that it would have been a full contest. It’s obvious there is mutual respect among both organizations. That’s how the lacrosse community should be! Not this vitriol on this platform.


Lol, Do you see what happens when Grizzlies do not win? LMAO. .., mutual respect ? Haha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm sorry, did someone say the jesters black are on a rise?
Lost to a # 16 - OK. Good!
Beat up on a #142
Lost to a #62
I'm sorry but most just don't see the rise. They've got a ton of new players from all over the place but I hear that the girls don't mix well.
They'll get there someday but not any day soon.

They should be on the rise as they picked up some very good talent. Unfortunately, I think it’s a daddy ball situation that still plagues that 24 team? It’s a shame, I think they could be very good. They have a dad coaching?

At this point why would you allow this to happen? Not healthy.
I feel bad for everyone involved.

Strong female coach and then a dad coach. Dad coach has had the team for years, female coach new this year. The team is much better than last year issue is just that no one can overpower dad and he tells the kids crazy things that even those who have never played know are a big no no. Girls all get along. They adore the new coach. We are getting a lot of recruiting help and are in great tournaments. Majority of the girls and families are very happy. The tactic of bad mouthing the program is the same tactic so many use to try and discredit others. They forget they’re talking about children, and frankly coaches kid is decent. She isn’t a bad player at all.

Good luck girls
So frustrating
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[quote=Anonymous]Your only considered a “D” team in your well established club. No one else thinks the team is a D team. Enjoy all the benefits and exposure that YJ provides.

Exactly my point! Would love to see others play us who are talked about on here as an A team while other clubs have two weak teams and claim one is A. I bet our D team would beat said A team from my other post.

YL OSullivan vs Jesters
Who would win?
Similar rankings after this weekend

Ramos and Jesters would be a good Long Island match up. Both teams played very simplistic summer and fall schedules. If you look at the game scores from each team when they play the same teams scores are almost identical. The two against one another would come down to who made fewer small mistakes and how the other team capitalized off of those mistakes. Would be fun to watch for sure.

Another fun one would be top guns black and liberty. That would be a head to head too.

Some others I’d want to see
Top guns purple vs. 91 orange
Legacy vs YJ Weiner
Kildare YJ vs Ramos YJ
Jesters pink vs. 91 navy

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Anyone else notice any time 91 is brought up a slew of attacks on every other club comes along? Can’t be a coincidence.

91 brought up, YJ teams attacked

91 brought up, TG attacked

91 brought up, Jesters attacked

91 brought up, Liberty attacked

91 coaches either need to get off the forum or tell their players families to stop patrolling the internet.

As a non long Islander, it is a bad look for the club to constantly come on here and belittle other people. I remember a few months ago the coaches wife came on and posted and signed her name.

It’s too much energy you’re putting in accusing everyone , bad mouthing other teams, and defending your team on a forum that any sane reader knows is hearsay.

Relax and stop embarrassing your club and your kids

Jesters beat O Sullivan and Kildare this past fall I believe. I agree with other poster that Ramos I Sullivan would be a good game.

Yes they did. Believe by more than a few goals each. Better matchup would be Ramos Vs Jesters Black
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