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Lack of depth was a problem. They did well considering what they had after D1 guys.

Same as every other year. Competitive team that will be perpetually middle of the pack. If they did well with 5 D-1 recruits, GC did an incredible job with zero.

Depth is what makes the top teams, at least in Suffolk, the top teams. From what I saw this season, the first lines of every team were competitive with each other. The second lines are what separated the top from the best of the middle of the pack. Without 2 solid lines of middie, you won’t win in Suffolk A.

Someone like him or a spallina to build a program there.

Just need a dedicated staff with an ability to attract players. That’s the model of every other successful parochial school.

Who is Zummo?

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion

Who is Zummo?[/quote]

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion[/quote]

Thanks Tommy

Bad job by Newsday on the All Long Island teams. So many great players in lesser named programs overlooked.

Team 2 would probably beat Team 1

This highlights the ignorance that I spoke of. This isn't about competing against holdbacks, it is about competing against 5th and 6th year seniors for spots. Many players were in the talks with D1 programs only to have those slots filled through the over 400 players in the transfer portal, and the returning seniors who lost a spot.

Coach of year always goes to blue chip programs with hundreds of kids to choose, from come on. Macrthur, Carey, Bethpage boys coaches all overlooked Lots of upsets in early playoff rounds with little to no coverage. Some phenomenal girls on small bad teams not even considered. Agreed bad job Newsday.

How does any of this have the remotest association to Carey with 5 D-1 commits losing to GC with none? Please highlight the ignorance.

Because some of those Garden City kids should be D1 commits.

He runs Legacy and is one the most respected lax guys around. In my opinion[/quote]

Thanks Tommy[/quote]

Lol, wrong. But it’s moot anyway.

What facts are you basing this on? Because that sounds really ignorant. They should be D-1 commits but are going D-3? Seriously?

Yes, it happened to many 2021's this year. Did you pay attention to the recruiting class? I personally know kids who were talking to many mid majors, mine included. This year there were kids who took D2 and D3 offers instead of going to a low level D1.
Are you seriously going to say a kid who made All Long Island wouldn't get D1 offers if it wasn't for COVID? Garden City had 3 kids on All Long Island, 1 of them was first team. I also know for a fact that one of the Carey kids turned down several D1 offers to go to Pace. Get your head out of the turf if you haven't experienced it personally.

So just your opinion! Great thanks. There’s one of you every year.

Nothing wrong with D2 or D3, If my kid wasn't getting recruited to a top 25 D1, I would definitely have considered it for my kid. The point is the top 25 D1 are typically a better option, and the best kids get recruited to those programs.

um bethpage coach u serious?

Top 25 lacrosse or academic? Most D-2 schools are not on par with D-3 schools academically.

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.

If Covid made it so tough to get recruited for D1 how would one explain all the no-name kids, from no name lacrosse programs and no-name high schools that made it to division one? The best went D1 with very few exceptions. It is that simple. Also awards mean nothing. The best record schools get a bunch of spots for all county while the lower finishing schools may not get any even though there are deserving kids who should make it over a first place school kid. The same could be said about All Long Island. Very political process. The major lacrosse HS program coaches have the most say on who gets selected. Not taking anything away from those who made all Long Island. I will say most of those kids who got all Long Island did deserve it but some kids were left off for kids who came from schools with a great record and a coach with political pull.[/quote]


The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.

You're literally talking nonsense. Until you back your comments up with facts, please SU.

Just chose the college that is right for you.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.[/quote]

A lot of 21s got those offers for a PG year. Let’s see if they honor those agreements. From what it looks like they have not based on the 22 commits. So your son made the right choice taking the offer he had and not waiting. Like many kids for 2021 my guy had offers early from top D1 programs. Like many with top D1 offers he chose a mid level D1 with great academics. If you son had visited top 10 D1 and met the coaches you know that those top ten school lacrosse kids have a different college life compared to the mid level D1. Top ten is all lacrosse life and that is It. They even recruit much different. Many don’t want that. So many 21s who could play for a top 10 chose to go to mid level D1 as they do every year which is not covid related. These players took up many mid level D1 spots. More so for 2021 since it was a very talented year and kids who would make D1 every other year did not make it this year. As a result of the great amount of talent for the 2021 year it was a challenging year all together to get a D1 offer but not covid related because none of the D1 programs let a kid go to a D2 or D3 school who they wanted.

A lot of 21s got those offers for a PG year. Let’s see if they honor those agreements. From what it looks like they have not based on the 22 commits. So your son made the right choice taking the offer he had and not waiting. Like many kids for 2021 my guy had offers early from top D1 programs. Like many with top D1 offers he chose a mid level D1 with great academics. If you son had visited top 10 D1 and met the coaches you know that those top ten school lacrosse kids have a different college life compared to the mid level D1. Top ten is all lacrosse life and that is It. They even recruit much different. Many don’t want that. So many 21s who could play for a top 10 chose to go to mid level D1 as they do every year which is not covid related. These players took up many mid level D1 spots. More so for 2021 since it was a very talented year and kids who would make D1 every other year did not make it this year. As a result of the great amount of talent for the 2021 year it was a challenging year all together to get a D1 offer but not covid related because none of the D1 programs let a kid go to a D2 or D3 school who they wanted.[/quote]

Please stop.

Okay, so RIT #1 in D-3 SAT standards 1220-1410, Lemoyne, D-2 #1 1070-1280, Salisbury D-3 runner up 1080-1230, Len Rhyne 970-1170. D-2 playoff teams: Wingate-930-1130, Seton Hill 900-1150, Tampa 1100-1250 (90 kids on roster, good luck getting on the field there), Mercy 890-1080, Mt Olive 900-1100, UIndy 980-1190.D3 playoff teams: Colorado College, 14% admissions, Transylvania 1080-1350, Centre 1130-1380, Denison 1200-1410, Catholic 1020-1230,C. Newport 1110-1280 Stevens Inst 1340-1500. Backed up i guess.

Well some of you got the news you wanted - loud parents , over zealous school boards , soft administrators, —- I hope you are happy with the next one

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It says that 2021 was a talented year and that is why it is a tough year to go to division one. It happens to be true.

another top school in the MCLA is Georgia Tech

Your kid can play college lacrosse on most college teams without buying into all the nonsense. There are about 25 D1 schools and 8 D3 schools that are highly selective and you'll need to spend a fortune on travel teams, all star games, prospect camps, etc. You'll need to stink up to your high school coach to make sure your kid makes all county, gets your kid's name in the local paper on a regular basis, etc. if you want a chance at those top schools. Outside of those 25 schools.....your kid can play 2-3 sports, have a social life, and just email and call the coach and work it out with the coach and your high school coach. "Recruiting" is a funny word in lacrosse. The parents spend a fortune in time and money to get their kid "recruited". Who is recruiting who?

How about commitments are getting scarcer and scarcer.

MCLA has excellent academics, but the lacrosse is not on par with NCAA. MCLA wouldn’t compete with D-3 programs.

The elite players had spots in the top 25 schools as soon as the recruiting period started. First of all, this class was the first one who couldn't be recruited in 8th grade, and had to wait until the fall of their sophomore year. So if you were a late bloomer, or not on an elite travel team, it made it difficult to make it to a top 25 D1 school. My son had plenty of interest from the mid majors, but since he didn't play at a powerhouse HS, or play for an elite team, they wanted to see his Junior season.That was taken away, along with the summer and fall. He was asked to go to top 10 schools after a PG year, and decided to take a D2 offer at a school that fit him academically and he will have a chance to make a run for a championship. If you haven't been through the process with all of these changes that the 2021 player have faced, you just don't get it.[/quote]

Your son had a shot at a Top 10 D-1 program, so something like UNC, UVA or ND and chose to go D-2 instead of a PG year? Please tell me you’re joking. If true you cost that kid hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential future income. Need to rethink your priorities. Pro lacrosse isn’t paying the mortgage and that D-2 lacrosse championship ring is going to sit in a drawer. Some parents don’t get it.

Complete gibberish.

Exactly, some of these HS coaches do nothing to help the kids get recruited. It’s sad that these coaches think about their standings before thinking about their kids. You can help your son get recruited without all the nonsense of traveling all over and playing on ridiculously over priced club teams. Not all of them help with recruiting. Start by emailing coaches that you think are a good fit for your son. Find out about the majors they offer. D1 sports are like a f/t job and your son may not see the field until they are a senior. Their are plenty of colleges that have good D2 and D3 teams with less time on the field and more time for school work. Remember, your so isn’t going to make a living playing MLL. Our kids are there to learn and move on in life. I think individual showcases are the best. Make a video and keep in contact with the interested coaches. It’s not hard, but you need to keep connected to these coaches and keep them updated on your sons status.

Agree 100%. College major before lacrosse. Unfortunately, many parents ill advise their kids, placing lax first to satisfy their ego.

My son's public high school team has no fewer than 3 kids that are "committed" to D3 schools to play lacrosse and these kids I'm referring to barely, if ever, got any playing time this past year as seniors. Let that sink in. They barely got playing time as HS seniors and they are "committed" to D3 schools to play lacrosse. The high school coach helped the parents connect with schools where they can play lacrosse and get a degree. These are good D3 schools. Its a beautiful thing. In the off-season these kids played on the HS team during off season games and tournaments. They got solid playing time in the off season. Travel teams are not mandatory to play college lacrosse.

Hearing Massapequa is now looking for a new coach as well.