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I am having my first conflict this weekend. I thought the Tournaments always started when school and PAL are over. Just venting.

The JDRF has always had a conflict with PAL that is why they incorporate the Massapequa PAL schedule into the benefit.

Then next weekend the PAL festival usually has conflicts with tournaments and alot of PAL teams are short handed at the festival.

Festival needs to go away!!!!

That explains what I'm dealing with thanks, the club kids are playing at Field of Dreams.

I don’t want to come down on Jim because he has done a great job with the PAL over the years, but he needs to change with the times. It’s no secret that he doesn’t like the “new” landscape of youth lacrosse on Long Island because it essentially put’s his PAL on the back burner. Kids play PAL to play with school buddies but go to these club teams to play with a team where everyone is almost on the same playing level and to play through the end of July. It will be interesting next year to see if PAL forces kids/parents to make a choice between PAL and club. What would you choose?

PAL is a joke. They want everyone to be equal, but treat the coaches like children and they can not do anything without permission. Gary is a joke of a ref and favors GC so much it's pathetic. They need new leadership and younger people to run it. Maybe kids and parents would be into more

PAL a joke?..... Hundreds of girls learning a game from 2 nd grade -8 th grade in a structured environment with life lessons learned is no joke.

Everyone equal?....... Yes, this is a league for the development of the sport and the child as a team not win at all cost.

Coaches treated like children?.......because the act like children.

Gary a joke?....... The man puts more time into this league in one month than you do in the whole year.

Favors GC?....... Maybe true I have never had him ref a game against GC . Maybe he should avoid GC games.

Need new leadership?.......if you had it your way you would come in and take over to make things better for who ? PAL was put together to make lacrosse a strong sports option for ALL youth girls on Long Island . If you think you could help the league grow please pick up the phone and call Gary or Jim and offer your services they are always looking for help.

They should cancel 6th grade also and since half the kids are in Ocean City MD with their travel teams..

Jim is stepping down at the end of this year. It will be interesting to see who takes over and what direction PAL heads. NCPAL has done a fantastic job over the years and I am sure with a few tweaks they will continue to fulfill their mission of town lacrosse. Club, OBLL, etc, that's where the stars belong so let PAL survive for the rest of us.

With that being said: NCPAL should adopt the USLacrosse rules of 'age specific' divisions and move away from 'grade specific' - doing it by grade there can be close to a two year swing in age right now (ie: one kid gets 'left back' DOB 12/3/05 and another DOB 11/29/07) - they can both be in the 'same grade' - In MS and HS this is fine b/c the physical maturity is there - but as a youth.....this is unacceptable - the younger kid can get seriously hurt - And this league is supposed to be about 'SAFETY' ---- Not this way -- It is time to move on and think of the kids well being.....and not how it 'used to be' - Note: they say they go by age limits as well - but there are 'left backs' all over the league b/c the higher ups 'approve' by grade and not by age - I know of 5 situations myself - please do something before some kid gets maimed

I agree. It's not just the kids that get left back, there are more and more kids starting school a year late these days to gain a competitive edge later on. It's getting so crazy that there are August birthdays now being held back a year by there parents.

Same argument for club. Everything needs to be age specific with birth certificate backing. The cheating, holding back, and everything else goes away. In soccer, you get caught playing down and you're done! Only people who don't want this are the cheaters and manipulators, plain and simple. My kid is a big early grower, if we held him back it would be so un-fair to the kids a foot smaller than him. Oh, and then he's a superstar for beating up on smaller, younger, kids? I don't think so.... BTW this topic has been discussed way too many times on various threads. I will not post again on it.

They should cancel 6th grade also and since half the kids are in Ocean City MD with their travel teams..