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Lots of good teams in the tournament, didn't Laxachussetts beat the Hawks last summer? Way premature to crown the Hawks champs of any summer tournament.

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[quote=Anonymous]The Express team that was a Blatant this weekend, is their Coach the St A's coach?

My son plays with the Hawks. He is 12. My understanding is that NY graduates at a year younger than Maryland. That is the reason for the age discrepancy. The boys all graduate in 2026 though. As far as hold backs (meaning 13 year olds) I don't know the age of at least 3/4 of the team.

Do the kids on the hawks team qualify for WSYL in 2 years? If not, then yes, holdbacks. No 12 year olds on LI teams. Kids aged 9-11 on 2026 LI teams.

Not a coincidence that Annapolis Hawks (and most MD teams) NEVER show up to WSYL.

Do the kids on the hawks team qualify for WSYL in 2 years? If not, then yes, holdbacks. No 12 year olds on LI teams. Kids aged 9-11 on 2026 LI teams.

Not a coincidence that Annapolis Hawks (and most MD teams) NEVER show up to WSYL.

My son plays with the Hawks. He is 12. My understanding is that NY graduates at a year younger than Maryland. That is the reason for the age discrepancy. The boys all graduate in 2026 though. As far as hold backs (meaning 13 year olds) I don't know the age of at least 3/4 of the team.

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[ChillLaxin]!! You aren’t on the Hawks with your 12 year old! There is not a 12 year old the team!! Stop trying to start garbage you lost!!!

I don't know about easily, but I did catch part of their Saturday game and all of their Sunday game this weekend when I was watching my nephew play for Looney's. They are a very good team. Not sure my son's 2025 team could beat them. That is not meant as a prompt for LI dad and his hold back comments!!

My son is on a Maryland team with a late September birthday. He is 11. Maryland public school cutoff is 9/1. So on our team we have 10 boys born before 9/1 and 10 boys after. So technically we have 50% holdbacks. We are a middle of the road 2026 Elite team.

Just over half our boys are in private school. There you have it. Long Island teams at a disadvantage until 9th grade.

From Maryland public schools website


AGE & ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENTS: 2018-19

Age

Children age 5 by September 1, 2018, and not age 21 on the first day of school are eligible for enrollment in MCPS for the 2018-19 school year.

Prekindergarten, age 4 by September 1
Kindergarten, age 5 by September 1
First grade, age 6 by September 1


I’m not a big fan of LI parents but they are correct. Until we move to BIRTH YEAR youth lacrosse this is the reality. I don’t like it either but any Maryland parent defending the fact that their 12 year old fifth grader is not an intentional or unintentional holdback is wrong.

Now that the no contact before 9/1 junior legislation is in place there is NO reason for youth graduation year based lacrosse teams. Blame it on the Howard County league that has always been in the back pocket of the Baltimore clubs that feed the MIAA conference.

So when the Hawks parents claim there are no 12 year olds on their team I call BS on that. When any Maryland Elite level team claims there are no 12 year olds on their team is it definitely BS.

And yes, that is why no team from our club has been to WSYL since our 2021 team did back before WSYL changed their cutoff date. And we will never go again.

On age Maryland kids that want to play in WSYL need to jump on an eligible team with in 100 miles that is looking for more good kids to attend. That is how it’s done.

BBL in New Jersey has a specific WSYL tryout in the spring. So they slap their 2026 and 2027 teams together and hope to attract a few more good stragglers.

Last summers Next Level team had several really good kids join after the tryout dates. You can do that as long as you play with the team in two spring tournaments and the club is within 100 miles of your home. Obviously there is room for abuse there as well.

So it is a testament to how skilled the LI boys are since they are younger but can still hang with these older 2026 teams.

If this is correct, Hawks will easily win this tournament. They just dominated the Maryland Howard County League like a hot knife through butter.

The Express team that was a Blatant this weekend, is their Coach the St A's coac[quote=Anonymous]The Express team that was a Blatant this weekend, is their Coach the St A's coach?

You are insane!!!!!! There are NO 12 year olds on the 2026 Annapolis Hawks team! This is becoming a darn joke.

So why no Hawks at the WSYL?? Same reason no MD girls at the U15 Nationals. Hold backs baby!! Case closed!

Naptown is a very competitive High School Tournament but a lame youth tournament. WSYL has team 91 LI and LI Express and those are typically the two best youth teams in the country in seventh grade.

Or perhaps they don’t go because the owner of the Hawks also runs a more competitive tournament in there backyard at about the same time. WSYL is not the most competitive field, fun experience for the kids but don’t act like the only possible reason not to attend is the age of players.

I wish the Hawks would just admit it.... How many kids were born in 2007? 2026 means Jan 1, 2008 birthdate or later according to public schools on Long Island. How many kids were born before 9/1/2007? That is the cutoff for US Lacrosse, WSYL. We all know the truth, just admit the numbers and all will be fine...

Madlax was caught cheating in the Maryland spring league. They had a team with 5th and 6th graders and put them in a division just for 5th graders. Got called out during the playoffs and were disqualified.

So not only do they have reclassed kids on every team, they illegally play down.

So we will have birth certificates being showed at NLF - will kids not show because they are too old?

Make sure you put it in a safe place and don’t lose it.🙄