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why is madlax 2023 capital playing in A division? Where are they playing this year in HOCO?

These two teams play in Crap tournaments. When Evergreen and Cavs play in a real tournaments please repost. Until then all 8th graders will be leaving these two programs for the big 3 in NOVA

So much this. Kids who want to play in a D1 program leave and go to VLC, Blackwolf, Madlax, etc. Cavs is a money making machine, first and foremost.

Just peek at the college commit list ... it is comical! The 2019 list shows six kids. ONLY ONE of those kids still plays with Cavlax. ONE. The other five play for other clubs mentioned and have not played on Cavs for years. Similar pattern for 2018, 2017 etc.

Daddy Ball!

You are right on the money. Glorified rec program.

Mass exit from the 2023 team this fall. The CAV teams need to play better tournaments to keep kids

Madlax 2023 Capital was a 2023 B team a folding into 2022 B? WTH?

"This kind of turnover happens all the time at these top clubs name any of them and see the names on the roster change 40 to 70 % from 5th grade to 10th grade. Some year are worse then others because a team will fold and the kids all move to new teams."

While this is most likely the case it does beg the question why pay for a "top" team in 5th grade? What is a top team? Winning? (not at 2023) Do all the top teams charge that much more than other teams, if so is it worth it? I know I am responding to an old post but MadLax parents should take note. There are 2029 teams now being formed and a 2024 team with a college sized roster. Some players on the 2023 team started in 3rd or 4th grade and now need to find a new team a year before HS because Madlax imported an entire MD team that already had kids well known by the coach. I know everyone is free to do what they please and all kids can be replaced at any time. But "trust the process" is a joke. When a kid leaves Madlax he is called an ungrateful quitter. What happens when the club fails to develop the player? What does 90% turnover in the 2023 team say about the club in the year just prior to HS? Advice is look out for you and remember that there are other options in N.VA now more than ever.

Ok thanks for finding my old post. What has happened with the Madlax 2023 team is not the norm for this club over the last 20 years. The Madlax Cap 2023 team if I remember was under preforming before the DC Dogs team came over last year. This DC dogs team is very good and was built from a network of parents before Madlax was involved. The DC Dogs team came to CM or CM went to them people say both. And they ended up moving to Madlax to take advantage of network that Madlax the club has. The kids on the Madlax 2023 Cap team when the Dogs showed up had a chance to tryout and beat to make this team. Most did not. I think If the dogs team would of just dropped the name and just all showed up to a Madlax tryout in the fall or spring these same kids would of made the team and this would not be talked about.
* And to go back to my point about the 40 to 70% turnover from 5th to 10th grade these numbers also apply to the bad clubs/ lower level clubs. The Cavs,Evergreen,Battlelax, Top Cal. all these teams will end up with a 40 to 70% roster turnover from the 5th to 10th grade years.
* And let me give you a little history on the ungrateful quitter topic. This kid was a great player who was a starter he was not cut he was yelled at during a game and it hurt his feelings. Then then left the team without notice. Then yes he was called bad names. CMs lowest point for sure.
* Lets talk about your develop the player point. All coaches who have coached for 10 or more years learn really fast that how a kid is built and grows is the biggest factor in how good they become over a 5 year window. In imply Maldax is not teaching or stopping kids from doing things fundamentally sound is just 100% wrong. They coach the details as much or more then any coach. But if a real athlete shows up at tryouts in 7th or 8th grade and has lacrosse skills. It does not matter if your slow/fat or short son can tell you every detail of a lacrosse skill he will be cut.
I have more but I have to do a little work today.

The idea that Madlax has some recruiting network that other clubs don't is ridiculous. They've had plenty of really good kids commit to good schools for sure, but those same kids could have done so on their own playing for any club. Just because you can collect talent doesn't mean that the kids are any better off from a recruiting stand point. If my kid is wearing an evergreen jersey and puts together a great tape, college and high school coaches are not going to turn their noses up. Madlax sells this fantasy that only they can provide opportunities for kids and that's why you must pay double what other clubs charge. The coaching isn't any better than competing clubs, the opportunities and connections aren't any better, the tournaments they attend aren't any better, they just have a better sales pitch that preys on the insecurities of parents.

The idea that Madlax has some recruiting network that other clubs don't is ridiculous. They've had plenty of really good kids commit to good schools for sure, but those same kids could have done so on their own playing for any club. Just because you can collect talent doesn't mean that the kids are any better off from a recruiting stand point. If my kid is wearing an evergreen jersey and puts together a great tape, college and high school coaches are not going to turn their noses up. Madlax sells this fantasy that only they can provide opportunities for kids and that's why you must pay double what other clubs charge. The coaching isn't any better than competing clubs, the opportunities and connections aren't any better, the tournaments they attend aren't any better, they just have a better sales pitch that preys on the insecurities of parents.

I have been waiting weeks for my stick to be ready....

I have been waiting weeks for my stick to be ready....

I have been waiting weeks for my stick to be ready....

I have been waiting weeks for my stick to be ready....

Blackwolf and VLC are worse at winning nothing and collecting talent developed elsewhere but preying on the insecurities of parents. At least Madlax HS teams win tournaments from time to time. For example, 2019s and Naptown. When was the last time VLC or BW won a significant tournament, both are living off the aged reputation of teams long graduated from HS.

You are an stunad. Nobody cares who wins a tournament except youth parents. While BW picks off players, VLC does not. Regardless, Madlax, VLC and BW are all succesful at getting their players into college.

DCE and NL are fighting for the same kids, so when one has a strong team at a grade, the other doesn't.

Things may change based on how bad the DCE guys look trying to oust the Bullis coach.

[quote=Anonymous]DCE and NL are fighting for the same kids, so when one has a strong team at a grade, the other doesn't.

Things may change based on how bad the DCE guys look trying to oust the Bullis coach.

Madlax 2024 added 5 reclassed kids

https://deadspin.com/hey-ungrateful-quitter-emails-from-an-angry-lacrosse-660703941

Have fun with this program

Just remember this article only showed the emails from Madlax back to this guy. They left off the emails he sent to the Madlax owner. Its not a good look for sure but this story is not the full story. I will leave it at that. This kid went on and got a D1 spot so no one was harmed by these nasty emails to a donk dad.

Just remember this article only showed the emails from Madlax back to this guy. They left off the emails he sent to the Madlax owner. Its not a good look for sure but this story is not the full story. I will leave it at that. This kid went on and got a D1 spot so no one was harmed by these nasty emails to a donk dad.

Just remember this article only showed the emails from Madlax back to this guy. They left off the emails he sent to the Madlax owner. Its not a good look for sure but this story is not the full story. I will leave it at that. This kid went on and got a D1 spot so no one was harmed by these nasty emails to a donk dad.

Sounds like someone's kid got demoted to the "DMV" team following this fall. Posting on multiple threads.

You are an stunad. I've seen the entire emails and the family did nothing wrong. But even if they bore some fault, you are actually grasping at straws and condoning a business owner threatening his clients? Because a kid who plays lacrosse decided he wanted a change? Are you out of your mind?

And plenty of people were harmed by his threats. The family had to deal with that crap. The club took a significant hit. The former and current club parents have to deal with the embarrassment of paying and playing for him. Get real.

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