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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. What...ahhhh....what local teams can't they beat? Freedom was one goal away from winning this weekend, not an excuse but gave the champs the most competitive game all weekend. Mesa and HHH represented well but Freedom is the top team in PA. Young Guns was a good tournament but there are still a few more to go this summer. Again LOL top team in PA.....drop the NY and NC kids play a tournament and than let us know where they rank in PA. Without those kids they get beat by Mesa, BL HHH, Team 11 and maybe even Sons. Like someone mentioned earlier they are a wanna be National Team that lost to Tri-State @ NXT
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend Since there best players are from NY and NC hard to pin them to an area...take those kids off the team and let’s see how they are Should probably change the name to Freedom National.
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. Something I have observed, you can win a tournament, that is all fine and good, but lets look at who you played in the tournament, what was the level of play? I would rather have my son play with his team in a tournament and lose a game by 1 or 2 goals against top competition, than play against mediocre teams (at best) and win a championship.
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. What...ahhhh....what local teams can't they beat? Freedom was one goal away from winning this weekend, not an excuse but gave the champs the most competitive game all weekend. Mesa and HHH represented well but Freedom is the top team in PA. Young Guns was a good tournament but there are still a few more to go this summer. Again LOL top team in PA.....drop the NY and NC kids play a tournament and than let us know where they rank in PA. Without those kids they get beat by Mesa, BL HHH, Team 11 and maybe even Sons. Like someone mentioned earlier they are a wanna be National Team that lost to Tri-State @ NXT There is other talent on the Freedom team, other than the two kids constantly being pointed out. Are they good, yes, but I can name other players on the team who contributed just as much for the wins against BL and Mesa. These kids are playing well off-ball and doing the right things, they don't need to be the superstar.
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HMMM, how did Freedom do in the local NXT league- Answer -didn't even make the finals. Lost to Tri state
Even if you wanted to call your self a local team, which you are not , you would be 3rd best.
When your best players are from NY and NC , i would say you are probably a Regional or National team, and a poor one.
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Maybe change the name to Freedom Long Island
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. What...ahhhh....what local teams can't they beat? Freedom was one goal away from winning this weekend, not an excuse but gave the champs the most competitive game all weekend. Mesa and HHH represented well but Freedom is the top team in PA. Young Guns was a good tournament but there are still a few more to go this summer. Again LOL top team in PA.....drop the NY and NC kids play a tournament and than let us know where they rank in PA. Without those kids they get beat by Mesa, BL HHH, Team 11 and maybe even Sons. Like someone mentioned earlier they are a wanna be National Team that lost to Tri-State @ NXT Beat all of those teams last year, some multiple times (besides BL) without them. So if you want to say they would lose to BL without them OK, but they are a very good team and getting better.
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[quote=Anonymous]HMMM, how did Freedom do in the local NXT league- Answer -didn't even make the finals. Lost to Tri state
Even if you wanted to call your self a local team, which you are not , you would be 3rd best.
When your best players are from NY and NC , i would say you are probably a Regional or National team, and a poor one.
Not true the best player is from Philly, players from NC and New York are very good as well.
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1-2 against BL with them , you play a team enough you are bound to win one. Without them wouldn't beat Mesa, HHH, Team 11, etc. Just be happy you have a solid team and stop embarrassing yourself and your team with nonsense on this website.
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend Looks like you were wrong, no championship for the Freedom (National Team), what a joke.
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HMMM, how did Freedom do in the local NXT league- Answer -didn't even make the finals. Lost to Tri state
Even if you wanted to call your self a local team, which you are not , you would be 3rd best.
When your best players are from NY and NC , i would say you are probably a Regional or National team, and a poor one.
They also beat tri state shore 7-2 two weeks before at NXT League. Teams will have good games and bad. Tri state shore tied BL at summer slam, they is a very solid team, you should come out of the B brackets and play sometime.
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Freedom is a solid for a National team , not great. Lets just stop saying they are the best at this and that, when they have done nothing to warrant that. Maybe next year they can pick up some kids from Texas and Hawaii. uvt
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend Looks like you were wrong, no championship for the Freedom (National Team), what a joke. Where you getting "National"
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend Looks like you were wrong, no championship for the Freedom (National Team), what a joke. Where you getting "National" Players from NC, NY and Virginia would make it a national team, wouldn't you agree? definitely not a local team of players..
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Freedom is a solid for a National team , not great. Lets just stop saying they are the best at this and that, when they have done nothing to warrant that. Maybe next year they can pick up some kids from Texas and Hawaii. uvt All of this hate and ranting about 8th grade lacrosse is always what makes me laugh on this site. So much of the actual reasoning for the attacks is really pathetic as well. Maybe all of you "adults" should look at the fact that the KIDS who are on these teams talk less smack/garbage to each other than you do. And they're the ones who are actually sweating and working on the field not anonymously whining on a website.
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How does 2-way match up against Eclipse?
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Tryouts are wrapping up. What's everyone's take on this year? Early rankings?
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test.
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops.
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops. In order BL Mesa Dukes Freedom...w/o the imports add them and they move to #2. HHH Sons situation shows what happens when bad people run the ship...ex Dukes South
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops. You are right - I forgot to throw in Brotherly Love and Rising Sons has had a solid program for years..Are players really leaving/have already left to join other programs?
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops. In order BL Mesa Dukes Freedom...w/o the imports add them and they move to #2. HHH Sons situation shows what happens when bad people run the ship...ex Dukes South Where would you put Team 11, Pittsburg Elite, Headstrong, Roughriders and NXT ?
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You are right - I forgot to throw in Brotherly Love and Rising Sons has had a solid program for years..Are players really leaving/have already left to join other programs?
Yup. Scattered like roaches to Mesa, Freedom, NXT, etc.
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops. In order BL Mesa Dukes Freedom...w/o the imports add them and they move to #2. HHH Sons situation shows what happens when bad people run the ship...ex Dukes South Where would you put Team 11, Pittsburg Elite, Headstrong, Roughriders and NXT ? Team 11 getting better probably close to Dukes/Freedom (minus the imports) HHH never will play anyone around here they rather go lose by 15 in NLF RR really low B NXT B Headstrong & Pitts Elite never seen either team play.
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Big 4, Dukes, Freedom & Mesa are the biggest players IMO. Fall Ball which is right around the corner will be a good test. Big 4/HHH doesn't play in the fall, correct? Curious as to why Brotherly Love isn't mentioned. Has everyone caught up to them? Also, what on earth happened to Sons 23 team? Seems like all their players scattered like a bunch of teens at a kegger that's being raised by the cops. In order BL Mesa Dukes Freedom...w/o the imports add them and they move to #2. HHH Sons situation shows what happens when bad people run the ship...ex Dukes South Where would you put Team 11, Pittsburg Elite, Headstrong, Roughriders and NXT ? Team 11 getting better probably close to Dukes/Freedom (minus the imports) HHH never will play anyone around here they rather go lose by 15 in NLF RR really low B NXT B Headstrong & Pitts Elite never seen either team play. BL Freedom Mesa Dukes Young Guns Team 11 Uprising/HHH NXT Rough Riders Dukes Main Line Sons Headstrong PGH Elite
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Freedom without the 2 NY kids couldn’t come close to beating Mesa and RR should move way down on that list
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Freedom without the 2 NY kids couldn’t come close to beating Mesa and RR should move way down on that list What does that mean? The real question, will the 2 NY kids be as dominant this year. The two had a major size advantage last year.
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AA/A
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Freedom without the 2 NY kids couldn’t come close to beating Mesa and RR should move way down on that list What does that mean? The real question, will the 2 NY kids be as dominant this year. The two had a major size advantage last year. Means w/o those 2 they are a solid team but not nearly as good as Mesa or BL. Everything ran through the 2 kids.
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Freedom without the 2 NY kids couldn’t come close to beating Mesa and RR should move way down on that list What does that mean? The real question, will the 2 NY kids be as dominant this year. The two had a major size advantage last year. Means w/o those 2 they are a solid team but not nearly as good as Mesa or BL. Everything ran through the 2 kids. Unless Mesa got significantly better you are way overrating Mesa.
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Does anybody know when the Maverik Showtime invites come out for the 2023 boys? Anybody receive one yet?
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Does anybody know when the Maverik Showtime invites come out for the 2023 boys? Anybody receive one yet? Invites are going out now and will be sold out by October - not sure what program your son plays for but if your coach/director has any pull, they are pretty loyal with allocating 1- a few spots per team however, they already know 90% of the players they are selecting. Best of luck
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Is there anyone that can provide any insight/feedback on Maverick Showtime? I was told this was one of the biggest showcase events of the year. True?
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Is there anyone that can provide any insight/feedback on Maverick Showtime? I was told this was one of the biggest showcase events of the year. True? Yes and no, it's heavy Long Island and very political. It's getting killed by Under Armour.
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When Freedom beat Brotherly Love, the 2 NY kids DID NOT score. Just saying.
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Is there anyone that can provide any insight/feedback on Maverick Showtime? I was told this was one of the biggest showcase events of the year. True? Yes and no, it's heavy Long Island and very political. It's getting killed by Under Armour. Is there anyone that can provide any insight/feedback on Maverick Showtime? I was told this was one of the biggest showcase events of the year. True? Yes and no, it's heavy Long Island and very political. It's getting killed by Under Armour. Any idea of where and when? I can't find anyting
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when is under armour? do you have to been invited?
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Somewhat political, and it would only conflict with UA if your kid makes the team as a younger classman. Lots of $ but they give the kids helmets, gloves and a head. Great competition, but also a lot of ball hogs too (usually LI kids). Also - add into the cost of a hotel room for you if you want to watch the games.
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You have to tryout, 6/18 and 6/19 this past year.
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