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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

Objectively true. Futures is without question both A. a regional "all star" team (several players from NJ, MD, DE and even NC) and B. better than any team in MD.

However, outside of Futures, the only other competitive philly team is Dukes who is essentially on-par with most MD "elite" teams.

Comparatively, of the 8 teams that Maryland fields in the HOCO elite division, at least 5 are as good or better than Dukes. Without a doubt, if those 6 teams (Hawks, ML, NL, Crabs, FCA, TC) put together an all star team, it would not be a surprise to see them beat Futures.

Credit to philly lax for fielding one of the top 29 teams in the country but claiming that equates to philly dominating maryland is a leap too far.

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lol. Apples and oranges. MD doesn’t have an all star regional team.

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What do you mean......we have SHUCKERS?? (LOL...what a joke!)

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!


So you are putting DCE in??? Who ya taken out? True NOVA also chirping to get in, maybe HOCO adds a 4A division this year??

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

What about FCA? Surely they are in the mix now. New coach. Some new offensive talent.

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I didn't see many coaches coming to middle school games. For us, the best way to be seen and considered for scholarships at these private schools was by doing their prospect days.

But they aren't offering significant money unless you show other real interest. You still have to visit the school, test, apply etc.

They usually happen in the early fall but there are a couple still open in the A conference. Good Luck.

Boys Latin:

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John Carroll:

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Yes, that was our experience too. The prospect days definitely opened some doors, especially for our oldest.

Its not too early to start thinking that way. We sent our son in 6th and 7th grade and got him on the radar for financial aid early. Obviously, it helps if you play well at the prospect day.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!


So you are putting DCE in??? Who ya taken out? True NOVA also chirping to get in, maybe HOCO adds a 4A division this year??

DCE is NOT joining elite. They beat a bunch of AA and AAA teams and lost to Preds "B" team. If they were in elite, it would be like the old days of 91 where games would be 18-0. Same with True NOVA. Quality club but not ready for the big league.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

What about FCA? Surely they are in the mix now. New coach. Some new offensive talent.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

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Whoever has the most holdbacks will win it. We know there are plenty of those to go around in Hoco

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The interesting thing will be is how many re-class kids can not play in hoco. . Anyone else have players that can not play.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

Hilarious, While Philly has some good players occasionally , Philly is a wanna be in lacrosse. Baltimore and Long Island are the Kings and all the rest are subjects of them.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

Hilarious, While Philly has some good players occasionally , Philly is a wanna be in lacrosse. Baltimore and Long Island are the Kings and all the rest are subjects of them.

Philly is the king of lacrosse. Look at the New Balance All American games recently. Philly has been winning them consistently, especially when they have all the top players playing. Haverford and Malvern are consistently some of the top teams in the nation, often only losing to boarding schools / national teams that pull players from all over the nation like Lawrenceville or other national powers.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.


HA! Your 1-4-1 record this fall says otherwise, but you always will be “the talk of the town”

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Preds Dad is back! We missed you. That 1-4-1 fall record has the Talk of Baltimore on their way to the top!

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.

I agree, definitely top 3 in AAA after you lose to True NoVA in Elite play in game. We are coming for your spot in Elite!

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I agree Preds will be a top 1-3 team in the AAA division. They are all talented players.

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DCE almost always ends up farming a good team in HS. Just look at the 28s. A bunch of ML kids left to start it and randoms from other places joined. Took a while though, but they would stomp the life blood out of ML and NL now. DCE 27s are week, and I'm not sure why, but 26s and 25s were very good.

I suspect many ML and NL kids leave for a 2nd shot at DCE and then they cobble together something solid. A lot of talented 29s. I'd argue, on the whole, more solid than the 28 class. They will want to shine if they aren't getting a lot of playing time elsewhere. Just the way it works.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.

I agree, definitely top 3 in AAA after you lose to True NoVA in Elite play in game. We are coming for your spot in Elite!

Yup, we’re all up here losing sleep over True NoVA. Do you have any perspective on these teams?

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.

I agree, definitely top 3 in AAA after you lose to True NoVA in Elite play in game. We are coming for your spot in Elite!

Yup, we’re all up here losing sleep over True NoVA. Do you have any perspective on these teams?

0-7 (-48 goal differential). Play TrueNoVa and demonstrate you deserve that spot. That is all the perspective I need.

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From the information that I have collected, the Predators have collected some reclasses but not showed much improvement since last year. True NoVA is a team that has been showing skill but not enough skill to defeat any of these elite teams. Though they went undefeated last year in AAA they had some close games to some not so good teams. They beat Carroll Manor in OT! I personally believe that if True NoVA keeps working on their teamwork and skills they can eventually compete with some better teams. For now though, they are an OK team. However I think the "Talk of the town" is 91. They lost in OT to ATL Thunder who also beat NL. This guy said they made no new additions but from what I've heard they added a new defensemen, attackmen, and d-middie. We'll see where all these teams end up after this spring.

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Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Hahaha... what quality, top players are team-less this time of year and just waiting for that phone call from DCE, 91 or Preds?!?!

- 91 hasn't added any difference makers. Some of their existing kids are developing/growing and that is making them a better team but they didn't add anyone material.

- Preds "found" some talent on their 2028 team and brought a couple of reclass kids down. But they also lost a couple of kids to expect more of the same. My guess is this is the last year Preds stays together before the few "good" kids on the roster throw in the towel and try to jump on with TC, Crabs, FCA or Hawks.

- DCE is a AAA level team. I actually think Preds would beat them at this stage.

Preds will be the team to beat this year. They have picked up some players that fit in well. Probably top 1-3 team.


HA! Your 1-4-1 record this fall says otherwise, but you always will be “the talk of the town”

You will be eating those words by end of Spring. Lets hope you have enough ,,,,, to come back here with your tail between legs after Preds take Baltimore by storm. Talk of Balt for a reason !!

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I didn't see many coaches coming to middle school games. For us, the best way to be seen and considered for scholarships at these private schools was by doing their prospect days.

But they aren't offering significant money unless you show other real interest. You still have to visit the school, test, apply etc.

They usually happen in the early fall but there are a couple still open in the A conference. Good Luck.

Boys Latin:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScBdwLrO1IVNsBUju0Ep0waGak85N1i-nOHCy5kMN-rgCq1Jw/viewform

John Carroll:

https://events.veracross.com/jcs/10...uzb7vjrMajicA_aem_9qPCFpt76lghxwZf1OwdJA

Yes, that was our experience too. The prospect days definitely opened some doors, especially for our oldest.

They help. I never saw any coaches at HoCo games when my son played for a good team in HoCo AAA level. Also a good way to make sure your kid isn't going to play for a maniac for 4 years.

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How many teams in the Elite HOCO division has True Nova played and, if any what were the results?

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From the information that I have collected, the Predators have collected some reclasses but not showed much improvement since last year. True NoVA is a team that has been showing skill but not enough skill to defeat any of these elite teams. Though they went undefeated last year in AAA they had some close games to some not so good teams. They beat Carroll Manor in OT! I personally believe that if True NoVA keeps working on their teamwork and skills they can eventually compete with some better teams. For now though, they are an OK team. However I think the "Talk of the town" is 91. They lost in OT to ATL Thunder who also beat NL. This guy said they made no new additions but from what I've heard they added a new defensemen, attackmen, and d-middie. We'll see where all these teams end up after this spring.

They also barely beat Mesa by a goal. Mesa... the team that's probably not even good enough to play AAA Hoco.

Credit to the 91 coaches for sticking with their roster of 30 and developing their players but outside of the Preds matchup, 91 isn't winning any games this spring. When people say a team didn't add anybody, it means they didn't add any difference makers.

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Have any of the 2025 Elite bubble teams (Preds,Nove,DCE)
heard anything official from Rickey?

Have "play in games" been used historically to break ties between teams with similar profiles?

How often is the AAA champion elevated to Elite?

I was not able to find anything in Hocos bylaws addressing Promotion/Relegation between divisions.

Has anyone been through or know how this should play out?

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