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Legacy playing Skywalkers at the Mid Atlantic next week it will be a good test to see how far Legacy progressed this season.

Legacy playing Skywalkers at the Mid Atlantic next week it will be a good test to see how far Legacy progressed this season.

Lol. 15-3 SW

oofa… saw Legacy play against TLC Red @ LLL and they couldn't win a draw or clear the ball. Not many offensive possessions.

oofa… saw Legacy play against TLC Red @ LLL and they couldn't win a draw or clear the ball. Not many offensive possessions.

Maybe they played up last year.

Nope, all three have 2 years of H.S. completed and are 2020s. I don't really understand how UA allows this. Half the command rosters are true 2022 born in 2004 who have never played in a H.S. game.

Who would've thought just a year or two ago that M&D Black would sport a 1-2 record after the first day of a tournament?

My daughter plays for one of the 2021 G8 teams. Give me one goal games - win or loss - vs a blowout any day. The games should only get more competitive as the girls get older. In close games, the coaches watching get to see the goalie, defense, mids and attack all work. Parity is a good thing.

Can anyone provide some feedback on how UA150 was? Considering this next year. Was there good talent? Was the coach list posted accurate?

Complete waste of time. only coaches there were coaching the teams last year.

The change I've noticed over the last year is that now the top tier teams no longer strike fear into the hearts of the "lesser" teams. Two or three years ago a game between an M&D Black/YJ/Heros and non dominant team was over before the opening draw just on a psychological basis. That's no longer the case. The talent has evened out somewhat, creating a level of parity mentioned above. I agree it's a good thing.

isn't G8 a showcase tourney, isn't the object for all of the girls to get an opportunity to showcase their talents. Records don't matter, its about getting the girls exposure.

isn't G8 a showcase tourney, isn't the object for all of the girls to get an opportunity to showcase their talents. Records don't matter, its about getting the girls exposure.

Complete waste of time. only coaches there were coaching the teams last year.

UA 150 was well run and the swag pretty good. Players were from all over the county including a number from Canada. I saw only a few coaches watching but no more than at G8 (daughter is a 2021). Some games did not have any coaches watching. My daughter had fun and said she would play again if given the opportunity - we live in MD so not a big travel commit in terms of time/expense. Competition was slightly better last year but overall some really good athletes on the field. I think most coaches are focused on the 2020 class. The Nike Elite 120 announced an impressive coach list for 2018 but again they are probably watching the 2020 class (daughter not going but am curious how many coaches actually show up.)

UA 150 was well run and the swag pretty good. Players were from all over the county including a number from Canada. I saw only a few coaches watching but no more than at G8 (daughter is a 2021). Some games did not have any coaches watching. My daughter had fun and said she would play again if given the opportunity - we live in MD so not a big travel commit in terms of time/expense. Competition was slightly better last year but overall some really good athletes on the field. I think most coaches are focused on the 2020 class. The Nike Elite 120 announced an impressive coach list for 2018 but again they are probably watching the 2020 class (daughter not going but am curious how many coaches actually show up.)

Exactly.

Another reason for parity is that many of the girls are concerned with being noticed by college coaches and as a result play an individual game rather than a team game. That may have worked in middle school, but not at the HS level where defenses have improved. This mentality is creating cracks among teammates and parents. It's sad to watch the competition to be recruited divide teams.

Yes it is a showcase but girls and teams still want to win. It's not they they say oh this is just a showcase so lets not play hard.

The issue with UA 150 and Nike 120 is that they cost $600. The girls don't get any instruction at these events. They just play games. So what you are paying for is to have coaches watch your daughter play. Since there are hardly any coaches attending what exactly are you paying for? It's no surprise that they gave all the girls free sticks this year. They aren't really free considering what you paid. You are much better off going to prospect days where you know who is watching your daughter. They always actually get coached and instructed by the attending coaches and usually play games at the end. And cost a fraction of UA and Nike so you can do quite a few of them for the same expenditure.

Could still be considered progress. May have been a 15-1 game a year ago. These two teams are in different stratospheres.

Think you are missing the point. Each of these teams, even the top teams have different levels of players on the team. There are usually 6-8 great players, 6-8 above average player that could start for most teams, and then there are 6-8 fillers that are replaceable and don't make much of a difference when they are on the field. With the showcases all the girls have to play at least half the game. (At least they are supposed to). It evens the playing field.

Could still be considered progress. May have been a 15-1 game a year ago. These two teams are in different stratospheres.

Legacy played in the A bracket and now realize they have a lot of work to do. Last place 0-4 and only scored 11 goals against the bottom of the bracket.

I sure miss the good old days when M&D won all the tournaments.

What happened to mnd in such a short period of time?

Nothing happened to M&D other than girls catching
Up to them talent-wise. They’re standouts in middle school but at some point it levels off.

They won 5 of the 8 divisions at LFTC, including 2019 and 2020. That doesn't sound like "it levels off." It just sounds like they don't win every single time, just most of the time.

What happened to mnd in such a short period of time?